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[00:42:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not when... - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 875 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:42:27] <exec> 08└─A presidential pardon can be issued and eliminate the issue. And don't forget, while it is customary for pardons to be given at the end of a president's term, it is in no way legally required to wait that long. And given other past precedents Trump has chosen not to follow, pardoning anyone followin...
[00:42:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mainstreamists are hilariously unaware - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:42:31] <exec> 08└─Republicans have been abusing them since about the time of Teddy Roosevelt: http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu [ucsb.edu] They've been on the decline in Democratic years, though. ... not that I support either of these bastard parties, but you seem so proud of your incorrect argument.
[00:42:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:42:37] <exec> 08└─That is a lie. http://www.dailykos.com [dailykos.com]
[00:42:38] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 451 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:42:39] <exec> 08└─Here is one of the actual orders: https://www.treasury.gov [treasury.gov] So Obama targeted individuals not entire countries. Quite a massive difference there, but I guess that doesn't fit your narrative. I had a much longer post that was askin...
[00:42:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Vox Day? REALLY? LOL - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:42:42] <exec> 08└─Yeah Vox Day is where I go when I need me some legal advice. That guy is widely known for his principled support for the institution of law.
[00:42:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score:2) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:42:44] <exec> 08└─OMG, a blog posting saying that the judge is wrong!!!!!! My whole world view just pivoted 180 degrees. Wow. How can an anonymous blog poster possibly be wrong?
[00:42:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] 02Rule of law is no more? - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 2008 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:42:46] <exec> 08└─They started with the Constitution, continued with all sorts of legislation to make past indiscretions legal, and now we get to see a flagrant disregard of a judicial order. No matter where you stand on the issue it is generally held that we obey the laws of the land. This is precisely how fascism p...
[00:42:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Disagree) 02Legislation is not "law"; legislation is dictation - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:42:48] <exec> 08└─Only a market can produce law: Voluntary agreements between individuals, which establish a protocol of interaction whose enforcement is also well defined.
[00:42:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Legislation is not "law"; legislation is dictat - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:42:51] <exec> 08└─Hey, Amerikan! How much would you need let me come in you country, to, um, do some businesses? I can pay a lot! In'shalla!
[00:42:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Rule of law is no more? - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:42:53] <exec> 08└─Shall I Godwin this thread?
[00:42:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Rule of law is no more? - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:42:55] <exec> 08└─Oh yes I know, I've just gotten a bit of blowback for using the Nazi reference so I tip toed a little more with some tongue in cheek commentary.
[00:42:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Insightful) 02Not Too Surprising - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 892 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:42:57] <exec> 08└─A lot of CBP people see themselves as defenders of the country. This EO gives them all kinds of personal validation that their jobs are important, that they are important. Of course they are going to take every opportunity to keep the barbarians out. They've gone for so many years just waiting to c...
[00:42:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not welcome in america - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:42:59] <exec> 08└─For the next few years, at least, we're not going to be taking our vacation in the united states. From canada and usually drop several thousand dollars a year in america but just can't do it with a clear conscience.
[00:43:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not welcome in america - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:43:01] <exec> 08└─What the fuck does Canada have to do with this?
[00:43:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not welcome in america - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:43:03] <exec> 08└─Looks like poor phrasing, I expect they fly into Canada and visit the US from there. Goodbye tourist cash!
[00:43:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Not welcome in america - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:43:06] <exec> 08└─They don't want you there, Akbar.
[00:43:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Pushing back - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 737 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:43:08] <exec> 08└─I've seen scattered reports of various companies and other organizations pushing back as they try to help their community members (from one of the 7 countries) complete their travel. Here's one, http://president.mit.edu [mit.edu] I was hoping to write to...
[00:43:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pushing back - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:43:10] <exec> 08└─I mostly hate on MIT for what they did to Aaron Swartz and how they threw my friend Star Simpson under the bus. Hope they've learned the price of sucking up to power.
[00:43:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Comment from a middle aged white male. - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 1436 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:43:12] <exec> 08└─I've been reading the comments. I have been reading mostly anger about the Muslim ban. I am a 20-60 year old white male and a United States citizen and I feel the need to voice my opinion. (I will be speaking for my entire family because we feel the same. I will be using the word you as "Muslim peop...
[00:43:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Trial balloon for a coup? - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:43:15] <exec> 08└─Found this lengthy, but really interesting analysis [medium.com]
[00:43:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Logical reaction ... - 06Quebec City Mosque Terrorism Attack - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:43:37] <exec> 08└─Christianophobia is the real enemy. You racist.
[00:43:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03edIII [791] 02Re:Logical reaction ... - 06Quebec City Mosque Terrorism Attack - 355 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:43:38] <exec> 08└─You need to shut the fuck up, and do it now ;) They have the Global Strategic Maple Syrup Reserve, and until that changes, don't rock the fucking boat, eh! They might reciprocate like Iran, and instead of losing Iranian visitors, we lose pancakes and waffles covered in miraculous goodness. I think y...
[00:43:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] 02Re:Police have not released names - 06Quebec City Mosque Terrorism Attack - 1209 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:43:54] <exec> 08└─Sometimes it is better to just sit and wait until the people on the scene have sorted out what happened before commenting. Tell that to the White House! It is usually the case that there is significant confusion in the wake of attacks of this sort. And local police did apparently arrest two susp...
[00:43:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Police have not released names - 06Quebec City Mosque Terrorism Attack - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:43:58] <exec> 08└─Vi/Vim is for lusers.
[00:44:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Police have not released names - 06Quebec City Mosque Terrorism Attack - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:44:01] <exec> 08└─Infidel! Your choice of an editor is a travesty and reflects in your personality, grooming and offspring. Mine is the only true editor.
[00:44:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03http [1920] (Score:2) 02Re:Police have not released names - 06Quebec City Mosque Terrorism Attack - 585 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:44:14] <exec> 08└─DIE IN A FIRE. It's not a attack on Canadians, but on very particular and specific subset of Canadians. Recognizing that it is an identifiable group that is being targeted is not "special treatment." When a terrorist attacks a mosque, it doesn't affect most Canadian's decision to go to Tim Horton's...
[00:44:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Recent update - 06Quebec City Mosque Terrorism Attack - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:44:17] <exec> 08└─pro-Le Pen and anti-feminist positions
[00:44:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Murdoc [2518] (Score:2) 02Re:Recent update - 06Quebec City Mosque Terrorism Attack - 616 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:44:19] <exec> 08└─Good article, thanks. But can someone riddle me this: in the article it says: "The suspect followed several profiles that espouse right-wing ideologies, including that of Marine Le Pen, the far-right leader of France's National Front." So I've been checking her out on Wikipedia, and so far I haven't...
[00:44:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Re:Recent update - 06Quebec City Mosque Terrorism Attack - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:44:21] <exec> 08└─CBC is pulling crap out of thin air. They are a left-wing organization reliant on government handouts and are deathly afraid of conservatives who might shut them down.
[00:44:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Muslims = csuse of terrorism - 06Quebec City Mosque Terrorism Attack - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:44:23] <exec> 08└─Trump's got it right. No mosque, no mosque attack.
[00:45:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Low to High, or High to Low? - 06RISC-V Projects to Collaborate - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:45:15] <exec> 08└─*WHOOOOOOOooooooooOOOOOOOOSH!*
[00:45:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Letter from Birmingham Jail - 06The Death Row Inmates Who Make Art - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:40] <exec> 08└─In which MLK wrote "One has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws."
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[01:42:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Bekenstein-Hawking Black Hole Entropy - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:42:21] <exec> 08└─The most convincing part of this, for me, was the discovery in the 70s that the entropy of a black hole was proportional to the surface area of the event horizon, *not the hole's volume.* That is completely counter-intuitive in a three-dimensional universe.
[01:42:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bekenstein-Hawking Black Hole Entropy - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:42:22] <exec> 08└─Has anyone actually measured this though? I don't think so. These purely deductive exercises are interesting, for sure. However, especially if we know GR is incompatible with QM, these long chains of deductions and assumptions that lead to counterintuitive results should be taken with a grain of sal...
[01:42:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03FunkyLich [4689] (Score:2) 02Re:Bekenstein-Hawking Black Hole Entropy - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 739 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:42:24] <exec> 08└─If entropy is something we can measure, and if we accept that anything which goes past the event horizon can not escape out again, that means that we can not measure it, information will never return to us in order to understand how much entropy is in there. It could be zero or infinite entropy in t...
[01:42:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bekenstein-Hawking Black Hole Entropy - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:42:27] <exec> 08└─Agreed, thought this was the idea all along and not necessarily the same as "the holographic universe". But I never know what people mean when they say that.
[01:42:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02substantial! - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:42:29] <exec> 08└─Substantial evidence of a non-substantial universe!
[01:42:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02I know it's the Internet Age - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:42:31] <exec> 08└─Dear physicists, some of us do get to encounter our sexual partners in actual real-life 3D.
[01:42:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:2) 02So this is the opposite of the other theory? - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:42:33] <exec> 08└─So this is the opposite of the other theory where our entire 3D universe is contained on the surface of a 4D blackhole?
[01:42:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02One-Dee? - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:42:35] <exec> 08└─Why assume it's a projection from a 2D surface, why not 1D (a line)? 1D can project out to any number of dimensions, if resolution loss is acceptable.
[01:42:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02It may turn out we are... - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:42:37] <exec> 08└─...nothing but a porn tattoo on some ogre's ass. Maybe it's recursive such that the ogre lives on Earth. (Not the orange guy with jutting hair and casinos.)
[01:42:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Demena [5637] (Score:1) 02Colour of Law - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:42:48] <exec> 08└─What are the federal laws concerning officers acting under the colour of the law in the US? In many countries they could be charged with assault or murder for "doing their duty" under these circumstances. People acting under the colour of the law effectively lose all civil rights while doing so.
[01:42:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The Wheels of Justice Turn Slow - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 443 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:42:49] <exec> 08└─There is a process. The detainees' lawyers have to file for a motion of contempt. But CBP holds enough cards that they can prevent the lawyers from even talking to their clients. So it is a slog. Rest assured they are working on it. It helps that over the weekend the ACLU got $24 million in donatio...
[01:42:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Contempt of court... - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:42:52] <exec> 08└─Isn't this when judges pass unlawfull rulings they should be disbarred? Ignorant prick.
[01:43:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:3, Insightful) 02WRONG! - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 681 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:04] <exec> 08└─Don’t go for legal advise to an anonymous sources pal, you’ll get your ass in jail. The travel ban included ‘permanent residents’ which does away with the opinion that the judges (four as of now) had no legal standing because visa-holders are not guaranteed entry into the US. Quoting the BBC...
[01:43:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:Rule of law is no more? - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 844 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:11] <exec> 08└─Nazis are overused. For some fresh comparisons, the US Civil War has lots of material. Trump is kinda like Jefferson Davis. Bigoted, delusional, and President of less than half the nation. And American. Davis was all too willing to preside over mass butchery. Wouldn't surrender either. Shouldn't he...
[01:43:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Disagree) 02they don't live here and/or they are not denied - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 625 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:13] <exec> 08└─"won't affect anyone living in the US" Correct. Greencard holders from those countries who had left the US are a funny case: they very obviously do not live in the US. Nobody living in the USA is affected. "greencard holders are being denied entry to their home" No. We have long required greencard h...
[01:43:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:they don't live here and/or they are not denied - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:15] <exec> 08└─Did it cross your mind that people who live in the US (on a green card), may have been traveling abroad on business or vacation when the order came down? "Shame on you for going to London to sign a $50M contract benefiting your US employer. Now go back to the ruins of your dad's Aleppo home!"
[01:43:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Demena [5637] (Score:1) 02Re:they don't live here and/or they are not denied - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:17] <exec> 08└─Have you ever heard of an overseas holiday? Or is that un-American and deserving of permanent expulsion?
[01:43:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02tourists - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:23] <exec> 08└─We don't want jobs kissing tourist butt. We don't need the crowds. We'd rather make things in factories.
[01:43:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Demena [5637] (Score:1) 02Re:tourists - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 467 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:25] <exec> 08└─You mean you would rather buy manufacturing machines from overseas (further increasing your debt) and use those to manufacture things in factories. Well, ok, what work are americans going to do to pay other americans for the goods now manufactured in the US? Eventually the only human jobs will kissi...
[01:43:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pushing back - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:31] <exec> 08└─Both of those incidents occurred before the current president of MIT https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] Reif became MIT president in 2012. Read the parent's link and I hope you will agree that MIT is trying to do the right thing in this case. Anyone else have links that dis...
[01:43:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02you mean "couldn't have been better"? - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:33] <exec> 08└─So, we caught the terrorists at a time when they were out of the country? Sweet. I'd have gone for summer, or ramadan, or ideally both if ramadan falls in summer.
[01:43:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02If you fucking believe that... - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 1158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:36] <exec> 08└─Why the fuck aren't you pressuring Trump for a blanket ban from *ALL* Muslim countries, instead of just ones that we don't have enough economic ties to make a difference to our bottom line? Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Pakistan, Turkey, Chechnya. All of those deserve to be on the list. Three of those a...
[01:43:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Majority Muslim Countries With Trump Business Ties - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:38] <exec> 08└─Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Egypt, United Arab Emirates, Azerbaijan. Here's a map with banned countries in red, and trump countries in yellow. [bloomberg.com] No overlap. How convenient.
[01:43:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If you fucking believe that... - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:40] <exec> 08└─Same AC here. I agree 100%. I own it.
[01:43:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If you fucking believe that... - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 513 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:43] <exec> 08└─If you love the fucking Muslims so much, why don't you move to one of those countries? We don't want you. We don't need you. You love destruction and terror so much, you love these people so much, why don't YOU GTFO and move in with your friends in Mosul? You run your mouth about letting terrorists...
[01:43:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Comment from a middle aged white male. - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:45] <exec> 08└─Are the people even from the United States, that are writing these comments advocating acceptance of refugees?
[01:43:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Trial balloon for a coup? - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:48] <exec> 08└─Yes, it is. Bannon is on record stating he wants to burn the entire system down, and that he's a "Leninist" for that reason. He wants some sort of nationalist-economic revolution. THIS is why I have a problem with the "burn it down" crowd; they're shortsighted, self-serving, and frankly traitorous....
[01:43:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Conspiracy Theory - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 737 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:50] <exec> 08└─That article really needs a critical counterpoint. It smacks of conspiracy theory and if you don't have any contextual knowledge you don't even know what the author has left out or just got wrong. Like when it says the Steele memo predicting that 19% transfer of ownership to Trump was written in Jul...
[01:44:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score:2) 02Re:Police have not released names - 06Quebec City Mosque Terrorism Attack - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:44:31] <exec> 08└─But this is exactly why no responsible news organization, let alone the White House, should rush to depict the shooter as Muslim and of Moroccan descent when so little is known about what happened. Yet not only did Fox and the Trump White House do exactly that, but worse, neither has retracted or co...
[01:44:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Recent update - 06Quebec City Mosque Terrorism Attack - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:44:54] <exec> 08└─Her party is rabidly anti-muslim. But she's kinda like Ivanka to her father Donald. Marin'es father, the previous leader of the NF, didn't care about respectability and that made him a liability. She's poised enough not to say stupid things in public. She says it through subtext and lets others say...
[01:44:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Muslims = csuse of terrorism - 06Quebec City Mosque Terrorism Attack - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:44:57] <exec> 08└─We said the same thing about Catholics in the 80s. And pubs come to that matter.
[01:44:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Muslims = csuse of terrorism - 06Quebec City Mosque Terrorism Attack - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:44:59] <exec> 08└─Sure, 'cause the IRA was totally made of Muslims. McVeigh was a Muslim. Dylan Roof was a Muslim. ...dumbass.
[01:47:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Crystal - 06Discrete Time Crystals: Rigidity, Criticality, and Realizations - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:47:17] <exec> 08└─It's already been made... half a day ago. [soylentnews.org] :) Hint: cube is a common name for a regular hexahedron.
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[02:42:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:3, Funny) 02A moment of non-silence for a great man - 06Namco Founder and “Father of Pac-Man” has Died - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:42:19] <exec> 08└─Pretty much says it all [youtube.com].
[02:42:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I know it's the Internet Age - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:42:33] <exec> 08└─For most us Soylenters, that's merely hypothetical such that we remain skeptical ... and jealous.
[02:42:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score:2) 02Re:One-Dee? - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:42:36] <exec> 08└─The resolution is pretty good, or it used to be. Seems to be getting a bit fuzzier as I age.
[02:42:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:It may turn out we are... - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:42:39] <exec> 08└─...nothing but a porn tattoo on some ogre's ass. Maybe it's recursive such that the ogre lives on Earth. (Not the orange guy with jutting hair and casinos.)
[02:42:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Contempt of court... - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:42:53] <exec> 08└─IANAL, but I'm pretty sure the courts cannot compel an organization's employees to act against the orders of their superiors.
[02:42:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:2) 02Re:Contempt of court... - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:42:54] <exec> 08└─And the Neuremburg Trials were full of people "just following orders".
[02:43:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Executive branch has too much power - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:43:00] <exec> 08└─A certain segment of the population has been warning you all about this. But it is just fine to aggregate power in one place as long as you like the excuses, isn't it?
[02:43:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 627 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:43:09] <exec> 08└─Which is all fine and good for them to think. Unfortunately it is legal for him to do. That judge was letting his ideals outweigh the law [cornell.edu]. (f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of al...
[02:43:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:43:11] <exec> 08└─Ok, I said people think it shouldn't legal. Not that it isn't legal.
[02:43:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:43:13] <exec> 08└─Fair nuff. I even agree. Judges should not be making illegal rulings that they know will be overturned to allow people back in in the mean time though.
[02:43:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:43:15] <exec> 08└─In which case the proper course of action is to go to a higher court and get the stay reversed, rather then ignore the Judge.
[02:43:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:43:17] <exec> 08└─Normally I'd agree but these judges made this ruling with every intention of it being overturned. They're simply trying to buy time for immigrants to return because when they do the order and the law it's based on no longer apply. They knowingly made illegal rulings for strategic reasons and such ru...
[02:43:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:43:19] <exec> 08└─ok, now prove that 100% of the immigrants from country X will do us harm. I'll wait.... if you have a list of individuals, FINE. but that is NOT what is going on, here. that's the issue. devil is in the details, which you seem to enjoy ignoring.
[02:43:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:43:22] <exec> 08└─You're trying to shift the argument. This argument is whether Trump's order is legal and whether the judges' orders should be obeyed.
[02:43:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:43:26] <exec> 08└─US Code 1182 also says he is wrong. There are no restrictions put on this presidential power. Trump has absolute free reign and both he and the judge know it.
[02:43:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:43:28] <exec> 08└─trump is a PRESIDENT, not a KING. no such thing as abs free reign in the US. trump will get punished. you wait and see. judges do not like being told 'no' when they make their decision and they are not under the president's control. that's why there is an exec branch sep from the others. pres != kin...
[02:43:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:43:30] <exec> 08└─Read the law.
[02:43:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:43:32] <exec> 08└─No vontrary to what you and Herr Trump think he is not an absolute monarch.
[02:43:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:43:35] <exec> 08└─Never said he was. But read the law. He does explicitly have this power.
[02:43:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:WRONG! - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:43:38] <exec> 08└─Read then [cornell.edu]. The bit you're wanting is "(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President". There is no gray area there. Trump can do what he thinks he can. The judges are wrong.
[02:43:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:WRONG! - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:43:40] <exec> 08└─are you a lawyer? you seem pretty sure of yourself...
[02:43:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:WRONG! - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:43:42] <exec> 08└─Read the law. It's quite explicit.
[02:43:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Desler [880] (Score:2) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:43:44] <exec> 08└─What authority! A random blogspot posting!
[02:43:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:43:46] <exec> 08└─From your link It's more serious than it looks at first glance, and confirms my opinion that Trump needs to crush this attempt to delegitimize his authority.
[02:43:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Re:Rule of law is no more? - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:43:54] <exec> 08└─Well, now that we know it was OK... I just want to point out that HRC is just like Hitler. And the 'Protesters' are just like Brownshirts. And you that don't realize this are just like the sheeple of the German public in the 1930s - willfully blind and fully culpable. This is why comparisons to Hi...
[02:43:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:they don't live here and/or they are not denied - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:43:59] <exec> 08└─Did it cross your mind we don't give a shit? Get out. Stay out.
[02:44:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2, Disagree) 02Re:Rule of law is no more? - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 477 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:44:02] <exec> 08└─These aren't checks and balances we're talking about. They're blatant abuses of judicial power in order to allow returning immigrants time to return. They know that these rulings will be overturned; they don't care though as long as it serves its purpose for a week or two. Read US Code 1182. There i...
[02:44:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Police have not released names - 06Quebec City Mosque Terrorism Attack - 542 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:44:59] <exec> 08└─Yep. That story is pretty poorly written. Awfully poorly written, actually. First, the story establishes that there was only one shooter - but it goes on the repeat earlier claims that it was a coordinated attack by two shooters. "In what was described as a coordinated attack, witnesses say the two...
[02:45:20] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03jmorris [4844] 02TANSTAAFL - 06Replacing Gravatar and Other External Dependencies - 2462 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:20] <exec> 08└─Always keep in mind that there are no free lunches. Any company claiming to be handing one out is only trying to get its tech so deeply embedded and ubiquitous in our daily lives that they can charge money for it down the road, or embed spyware and extract value by nefarious means. There is Free Sof...
[02:45:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Easy solution - 06Oracle Switching Solaris To A Continuous Delivery Model - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:41] <exec> 08└─Use OpenIndiana instead. A little bird tells me lots of devs will be joining that support team soon. And hey, it's free software!
[02:46:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:The wonders of Photoshop/GIMP... - 06D.C. CCTV Surveillance Camera Data Storage Hacked Ahead of Inauguraton - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:46:55] <exec> 08└─At least the kids wont have to read it anymore as they'll be living it.
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[03:42:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] 02Bekenstein-Hawking Black Hole Entropy - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 257 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:42:27] <exec> 08└─The most convincing part of this, for me, was the discovery in the 70s that the entropy of a black hole was proportional to the surface area of the event horizon, *not the hole's volume.* That is completely counter-intuitive in a three-dimensional universe.
[03:42:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Bekenstein-Hawking Black Hole Entropy - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 498 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:42:32] <exec> 08└─Black holes are generally assumed to have singularities at their center, thus there is nothing to fill the volume. The two entities then become the non-dimensional singularity and the event horizon. Since surface area and volume are both functions of the radius you could equate the entropy to the vo...
[03:42:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:I know it's the Internet Age - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:42:37] <exec> 08└─I'll have you know that I've had 3D sex!! Thank god for VR ;)
[03:42:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] 02So this is the opposite of the other theory? - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 119 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:42:39] <exec> 08└─So this is the opposite of the other theory where our entire 3D universe is contained on the surface of a 4D blackhole?
[03:42:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:So this is the opposite of the other theory? - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:42:41] <exec> 08└─Yes! That other theory is called WD40!
[03:42:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Fish - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:42:47] <exec> 08└─Or maybe it's all just a bad dream, caused by that fish I ate last night. I mean it could be, right?
[03:43:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Contempt of court... - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:43:03] <exec> 08└─Federal employees have an obligation to follow the law. By not following a judge's lawful orders they are in violation of the law.
[03:43:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Mainstreamists are hilariously unaware - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:43:07] <exec> 08└─They also reportedly started blocking people before the executive order was made as well.
[03:43:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Mainstreamists are hilariously unaware - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 1009 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:43:10] <exec> 08└─Well that is the section I missed when responding to TMB, but I find the full text adds a little more detail: (f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrim...
[03:43:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Mainstreamists are hilariously unaware - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 682 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:43:12] <exec> 08└─Executive orders "became a thing" in George Washington's administration. They're nothing new. The presidents who signed the most executive orders were, in order: - Franklin Roosevelt - Woodrow Wilson - Calvin Coolidge - Teddy Roosevelt - Herbert Hoover - Harry Truman - William Howard Taft - Warren H...
[03:43:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02plenty of FUD to go around - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:43:21] <exec> 08└─Obama also claimed to have deported more people than all other administrations combined, remember?
[03:43:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:43:31] <exec> 08└─No proof needed. Printed on every visa, printed on every application for an entry, the US has a statement that you may be denied entry for any reason. It's written so broadly, you may even be denied entry for no reason. Basically, "We'll welcome you if we feel like welcoming you."
[03:43:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:2) 02Another doofus - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 511 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:43:33] <exec> 08└─As with others, you are confusing a VISA with USCIS form I-551 (‘green card’); a permanent resident has to be given notice (quoting from the law) “The director shall send a formal written notice to the conditional permanent resident of the termination of the alien's conditional permanent resid...
[03:43:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Another doofus - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 653 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:43:35] <exec> 08└─Those persons held out as poster children to prove how unjust Trump is have had visas or entry permits. I've not yet seen a documented case of a green card holder being denied permission to enter the country. Looking at your own quote - it's pretty obvious that the green card can be revoked. Allow m...
[03:43:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:43:42] <exec> 08└─Nobody likes being told "no". You don't either. Unless you happen to be a petty tyrant, sometimes you have to suck it up, and stop acting like a special snowflake. Them's the facts of life. Now, go read the law. It's been posted multiple times.
[03:43:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:43:47] <exec> 08└─So I read the law and I don't see any clause that allows for the President to unilaterally deny entry to people holding valid visas, unless they fit into a defined category. Do you perhaps think that they are all doctors planning to practice medicine when they arrive? It's possible that I missed som...
[03:43:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:43:49] <exec> 08└─You're confusing my position that Trump is allowed to do what he does with the position that he should be doing it. As for him being allowed, he is allowed to deny entry to any alien or group of aliens, regardless of classification, for any reason he thinks justifies doing so. Search for: (f) Suspen...
[03:43:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03linuxrocks123 [2557] (Score:2) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 921 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:43:51] <exec> 08└─You could have said 1182(f) if you wanted to be constructive, rather than a douche. 1182(f) is a very broad delegation of authority, to be sure, but: (1) There are limits on what authority Congress is allowed to delegate. (2) Congress can't delegate authority it doesn't have. I'll focus on (2) since...
[03:43:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WRONG! - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:43:57] <exec> 08└─The problem is everything else that you don't know. The law does not exist in a vacuum. Its modified by other laws. And since you didn't even find that statute yourself, I'm pretty sure you have zero idea what other laws apply. But you know who probably does know? A judge. Or maybe 2 judges. Or even...
[03:43:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:WRONG! - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:43:59] <exec> 08└─Is it? Show me where. I provided a citation for my claim, can you do the same?
[03:44:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:WRONG! - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 598 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:44:01] <exec> 08└─I happen to be a LAWYER while you are not; so don't try to teach your grandma how to suck an egg. You are confusing a VISA which is issued to a student, tourist or other aliens for temporary admission to the U.S. with a ‘green card’ which is issued to a person granting them a right to reside pe...
[03:44:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:WRONG! - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:44:03] <exec> 08└─No, Mr. LAWYER, I was not. I said nothing about status whatsoever. Any alien of any status falls under that law unless you can point out somewhere else, because the quoted law does not, that says otherwise.
[03:44:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:2) 02Re:STILL WRONG! - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 556 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:44:06] <exec> 08└─I just replied to another doofus, so go read that comment where I do quote the law, but since you too are lazy and feel entitled to an opinion in a field where you have no experience, I will leave you the task of looking up the appropriate law. What would you say to someone who knew nothing about so...
[03:45:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Police have not released names - 06Quebec City Mosque Terrorism Attack - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:45:06] <exec> 08└─That story is pretty poorly written. Awfully poorly written, actually. First, the story establishes that there was only one shooter - but it goes on the repeat earlier claims that it was a coordinated attack by two shooters.
[03:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Police have not released names - 06Quebec City Mosque Terrorism Attack - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:45:10] <exec> 08└─You're not being very tolerant. Or nice.
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[03:46:47] <exec> 08└─They are purposefully limiting storage on phones and removing SD to charge a premium for the extra GB that costs them pennies on the dollar. Have a look at the google pixel. 32GB or 128GB of storage. The 128GB costs an additional $100. Doubtful the actual flash parts are anywhere near $100. A brand...
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[03:47:58] <exec> 08└─This is part of a website, not the browser, you Schnitzel!
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[04:42:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Whoops! - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:42:14] <exec> 08└─Fake News
[04:42:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Whoops! - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:42:16] <exec> 08└─I define "Fake News" as anything that even mentions "Fake News."
[04:42:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kilo110 [2853] (Score:2) 02Re:Whoops! - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:42:18] <exec> 08└─Your loss. It's an interesting read on the future of forged digital media.
[04:42:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Silver Lining - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 587 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:42:20] <exec> 08└─Perhaps people will begin to exercise their critical thinking abilities in an attempt to not be played for fools. Also, perhaps they will learn some patience instead of going off half cocked only to find out they acted like complete tools railing on about something that didn't even happen. Don't for...
[04:42:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Silver Lining - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:42:22] <exec> 08└─Perhaps people will begin to exercise their critical thinking abilities in an attempt to not be played for fools.
[04:42:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:2) 02Re:Silver Lining - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:42:25] <exec> 08└─Unless you personally witnessed an event you will have no way to know what really happened.
[04:42:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Trust is not ideal - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:42:27] <exec> 08└─you fundamentally must be able to trust the information you see. If there is no way, barring forensic analysis, to tell truth or falsehood, how can we know anything? Plausible lies could literally be the end of the world.
[04:42:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score:2) 02S1m0ne - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:42:29] <exec> 08└─S1m0ne [imdb.com], is that you?
[04:42:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Bekenstein-Hawking Black Hole Entropy - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:42:46] <exec> 08└─If entropy is something we can measure, and if we accept that anything which goes past the event horizon can not escape out again, that means that we can not measure it, information will never return to us in order to understand how much entropy is in there.
[04:42:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bekenstein-Hawking Black Hole Entropy - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:42:48] <exec> 08└─And my bank account is theoretically connected to the size of the economy by 42. Just because there's fancy math that suggests something is true, doesn't make it true. Math is perfectly fine with all sorts of undesirable outcomes. It's why we bother having scientists conduct experiments to confirm t...
[04:42:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Bekenstein-Hawking Black Hole Entropy - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:42:50] <exec> 08└─Until we get FTL though we're gonna have to go with our best guesses. Quite often physicists have come up with mathematics that have proven true, so until we have better data we have no choice but to operate on our best assumptions.
[04:42:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bekenstein-Hawking Black Hole Entropy - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 1053 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:42:52] <exec> 08└─Not really. How much of what physicists are doing isn't experimentally determinable and of actual consequence to our lives? The things that can't be tested are mostly things that aren't of any particular value right now. Paying people to come up with ideas that we can't hope to test for decades is b...
[04:43:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fish - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:43:06] <exec> 08└─I'm pretty sure the universe is a 4d autistic child's snowglobe.
[04:43:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Dear Phoenix - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:43:07] <exec> 08└─Stick to "social science" and such stuff. You just aren't cut out for physics/math.
[04:43:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Demena [5637] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:Contempt of court... - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:43:26] <exec> 08└─Do you really believe that? The courts can tell your employers to get stuffed and draft you. The courts can decide if you have been given an illegal order or not and deny you protection if you do obey your employers (unless they are the military and maybe then). No, you are not a lawyer. And you are...
[04:43:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 379 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:43:49] <exec> 08└─Argument hasn't shifted, the president must act on the belief that they will cause harm. Trump's order is legally questionable based on mildly conflicting sections of 1182 and the Constitution, thus it is up to the judiciary to sort out. The POTUS can not act solely on personal opinion, there must b...
[04:43:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Another doofus - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 882 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:43:54] <exec> 08└─Of course it is conditional, otherwise it would be called citizenship. However, they can't be deported for any reason that doesn't violate US law. Being Muslim is protected by the 1st amendment. You call the Constitution and laws of the US "legal weasel words"? C'mon Runaway, where is your reason? A...
[04:43:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:2) 02Re:Another doofus - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 1581 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:43:56] <exec> 08└─Oh, gee! I’m quoting CNN [cnn.com] for you, as probably it is a trusted source in your view: “Senior officials at the Department of Homeland Security initially interpreted Trump's order to not apply to green card holders from the seven banned countries. Trump White House overruled that reading,...
[04:44:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 441 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:44:03] <exec> 08└─neither you (I assume) nor I are lawyers. asking laymen to 'read the law' is like asking the milkman to read my python code.... I admit I don't know how to parse laws and legal documents. do you have such powers? somehow, I seriously doubt it. (hint: even lawyers with decades of experience disagree...
[04:44:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:44:05] <exec> 08└─Seriously, read it. It is quite simple. (f) is the bit you're looking for. Barring some case law between when Clinton did the exact same thing and now, there's not a chance in hell those judges' rulings will stand. And they knew it.
[04:44:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:44:14] <exec> 08└─Congress can't delegate authority it doesn't have.
[04:44:15] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03jelizondo [653] 02WRONG! - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 681 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:44:15] <exec> 08└─Don’t go for legal advise to an anonymous sources pal, you’ll get your ass in jail. The travel ban included ‘permanent residents’ which does away with the opinion that the judges (four as of now) had no legal standing because visa-holders are not guaranteed entry into the US. Quoting the BBC...
[04:44:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WRONG! - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 655 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:44:23] <exec> 08└─Ah, you're so cute. I literally just said I'm deferring to the experts, you stomp your little princess foot and demand that I not. Tell you what, I'll play chicken with you. You go find the rulings from those four judges and tell us all what's wrong their legal determinations. Not just blindly cite...
[04:44:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:STILL WRONG! - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:44:28] <exec> 08└─Darlin, I can read code. Laws are easy. Cite your argument or STFU.
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[05:42:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02It used to be impossible to wear a seat belt... - 06Wearable 'Watches' to Monitor Your Blood Pressure - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:42:18] <exec> 08└─...because they didn't exist. Now it's mandatory.
[05:42:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Gotta love the government - 06Wearable 'Watches' to Monitor Your Blood Pressure - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:42:20] <exec> 08└─They tell us about each pressure number in three units: Pa, psi, and mmHg. This is some pretty boring work... apparently one of the first scientific press releases OKed by Trump.
[05:42:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03driven [6295] (Score:2) 02Re:Trust is not ideal - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 530 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:42:34] <exec> 08└─This is all fine, but as time marches on we all need to continue to live and make decisions in real time. If you distrust almost all of what you hear, what information do you base your decisions on? How do you feel about certain issues, especially issues that happen too far away for facts to be inde...
[05:42:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Trust is not ideal - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:42:36] <exec> 08└─Or you get people who withhold judgement.
[05:42:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:42:38] <exec> 08└─Where can I obtain this wonderous item? Sounds very useful.
[05:42:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03daver!west!fmc [1391] (Score:1) 02Never mind this year's technology, try 1984's - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:42:41] <exec> 08└─"My fellow Americans, I am pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes." No imitation needed, just a moment of inspiration in the mind of the President, during a sound check.
[05:42:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Some call me Tim [5819] (Score:2) 02Re:Never mind this year's technology, try 1984's - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 674 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:42:43] <exec> 08└─The amazing thing is that this scared the crap out of the Russians and they backed down. If it works, use it! On another note, we have to build a wall before we can tear it down. America has got to proclaim it's sovereignty and tell other nations that our border is not an open door. We can't support...
[05:43:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bekenstein-Hawking Black Hole Entropy - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 487 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:43:05] <exec> 08└─And thus you have admitted (well done BTW) they are guesses and thus proved his point entirely. You are right though. In the absence of being able to do good science, we do what we can. There is nothing wrong with that. The problem is the mouth breathing idiots who take it anything approaching liter...
[05:43:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dear Phoenix - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:43:21] <exec> 08└─Spoken like a holographic anon in denial.
[05:43:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Flyingmoose [4369] 02Contempt of court... - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 91 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:43:31] <exec> 08└─Isn't this when the judge starts throwing the customs agents in jail for contempt of court?
[05:43:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Contempt of court... - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:43:40] <exec> 08└─Federal employees have an obligation to follow the law
[05:44:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02world class critical thinking skills - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:44:02] <exec> 08└─All the judges are a bunch of SJWs. ::rolleyes:: And this from the guy who claims you gotta have "world class critical thinking skills" [theregister.co.uk] if you are a conservative on teh internets.
[05:44:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:Dang, thought I learned a new word - 06High-Energy Electrons Synced to Ultrafast Laser Pulse to Probe Vibrational States of Atoms - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:44:48] <exec> 08└─ewhiznergy - n: The amount of energy in a urinating session. Usage: Dang, had 5 pints in the bar and had to drive home, my ewhiznergy was at least 4 pints/hour. This is absolutely a word that needs to make it to the Oxford next year. Who cares if it was an editing mistake, lets make ewhiznergy great...
[05:44:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Sob, think of the scientists - 06High-Energy Electrons Synced to Ultrafast Laser Pulse to Probe Vibrational States of Atoms - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:44:50] <exec> 08└─You got your PhD and all, came up with an amazing technique to do something I sorta understand. And get famous because some editor at some obscure website made a typo. Then again, it was an amazeballz typo that I for one gets to live on forever in infamy. ewhiznergy. It's not just for breakfast anym...
[05:47:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:demand for them? - 06SK Hynix Plans 72-Layer 512 Gb NAND for Late 2017 - 792 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:47:20] <exec> 08└─Just a dumb tax honestly. 16 GB phones are mostly gone, with the 32 GB and 128 GB options you mentioned being common, and 256 GB or more is around or coming. Meanwhile, you can always find a half-priced obscure smartphone brand like BLU or whatever with a decent octo-core chip and a removable SD slo...
[05:47:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What we've all known - 06D.C. CCTV Surveillance Camera Data Storage Hacked Ahead of Inauguraton - 373 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:47:45] <exec> 08└─Well no - your argument doesn't hold water because when the fire truck breaks down, you don't drive it to the fire, it won't drive. You still try to serve your populace but when some tools are unavailable you go without until maintenance can happen. Not that I'm in favour of surveillance. To the con...
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[06:42:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Trust is not ideal - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 221 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:42:30] <exec> 08└─you fundamentally must be able to trust the information you see. If there is no way, barring forensic analysis, to tell truth or falsehood, how can we know anything? Plausible lies could literally be the end of the world.
[06:42:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Trust is not ideal - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:42:33] <exec> 08└─Withholding judgment is a rare skill.
[06:42:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Stories that Confirm Your Biases are Suspect - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 582 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:42:36] <exec> 08└─It's not just about dis-trusting sources that have biases that match yours. Its more about dis-trusting stories that really, really confirm your biases. Like pizzagate - those people hate hillary so fucking much that they literally wanted to believe she was part of a child molestation ring and were...
[06:42:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Some call me Tim [5819] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Trust is not ideal - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 475 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:42:38] <exec> 08└─Why must you make decisions in real time? Why can't you wait a week for the real story to come out and make your decision then? This is the real problem with internet "news". News site makes fantastic claim, everyone twitfacebooks it as the truth never ending and it turns out to be total crap later....
[06:42:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score:2) 02Re:Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:42:41] <exec> 08└─Search the web or go to the library? It seems that the most obvious and direct way is the most difficult, confirming the lack of critical thinking in the first place.
[06:42:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:4, Interesting) 02duplicate story - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:42:46] <exec> 08└─We already had a story about the Adobe software, in November. "Adobe Voco 'Photoshop-for-Voice' Causes Concern [soylentnews.org]"
[06:42:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Some call me Tim [5819] (Score:2) 02Re:duplicate story - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:42:48] <exec> 08└─OK, I gave you a funny because F$ck Adobe. ;-)
[06:42:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03charon [5660] (Score:1) 02Re:duplicate story - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:42:50] <exec> 08└─I looked for a dupe before I submitted, but I missed that. Thank you.
[06:42:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Estimated 10 billion times played - 06Namco Founder and “Father of Pac-Man” has Died - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:42:59] <exec> 08└─I'd submitted an article about this before checking the current stories :) It did say there was an estimated 10 billion times played and the most successful coin-operated game ever. Still see it played in arcades now, and it wasn't that long ago that I actually paid 50c to do just that.
[06:43:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Estimated 10 billion times played - 06Namco Founder and “Father of Pac-Man” has Died - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:43:01] <exec> 08└─So at least 30 billion deaths, then.
[06:43:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bekenstein-Hawking Black Hole Entropy - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:43:17] <exec> 08└─Shut up, khallow! The obvious rebuttal is that you are out of your league!
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[06:43:18] <exec> 08└─In khallow's defense, if it is all a holographic simulation, where does all our money go when the simulation ends? Where is Peter Thiel putting all his wealth? (And no, khallow, I am not talking about your anus. Get a grip, dude! There is a limit to how much you can either lick boots, or that other...
[06:43:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:2) 02Re:Fish - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:43:34] <exec> 08└─You may have indirectly hit upon the answer by talking about fish. Have you every wondered why they call it a "food pyramid", and yet we only ever see one side of it? Either it's a holographic pyramid, or they don't want us to know the other 2 sides show that beer, pizza, chips and poptarts are good...
[06:43:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Physics vs Economics - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:43:37] <exec> 08└─Economists made ass of themselves pretending economics is like physics. Physicists hit a wall and got stuck for 30 years with this string "theories", and are now making ass of themselves with nonsense like multiverse, anthropogenic principles, and this holographic nonsense. And they wonder why there...
[06:43:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Mainstreamists are hilariously unaware - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 296 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:43:59] <exec> 08└─Republicans have been abusing them since about the time of Teddy Roosevelt: http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu [ucsb.edu] They've been on the decline in Democratic years, though. ... not that I support either of these bastard parties, but you seem so proud of your incorrect argument.
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[06:44:02] <exec> 08└─An alien, not described in clause (ii), shall not be excludable or subject to restrictions or conditions on entry into the United States under clause (i) because of the alien’s past, current, or expected beliefs, statements, or associations
[06:44:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03dry [223] 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 125 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:44:17] <exec> 08└─In which case the proper course of action is to go to a higher court and get the stay reversed, rather then ignore the Judge.
[06:45:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Unprincipled restraint - 06Quebec City Mosque Terrorism Attack - 450 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:45:54] <exec> 08└─I blame Runaway2626 for this mass murder. If it were not for fucking cowards like him, encouraging "lone wolf" idiots like this, we would only have to deal with the regular Republican serial killers and Bush league foreign country invasions. But Runaway has encouraged people like this guy, so it is...
[06:46:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:DecentralEyes - 06Replacing Gravatar and Other External Dependencies - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:46:24] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, the newest branch of Palemoon is no longer compatible with that extension.
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[07:42:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02Re:Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:49] <exec> 08└─See The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark [wikipedia.org] by Carl Sagan (1995). ISBN 0-345-40946-9. An excellent book and required reading for everyone. This is the Baloney Detection Kit [fu-berlin.de], which appears as Chapter 12 of the book.
[07:42:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Never mind this year's technology, try 1984's - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 813 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:54] <exec> 08└─> Obama was happy to bring in everyone except Christians that were being slaughtered at an alarming rate. I don't know about that, but I've heard that more people were deported during Mr. Obama's presidency than during the term of any other president. https://www.nydailynews.com
[07:42:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03charon [5660] (Score:1) 02New media - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 824 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:42:59] <exec> 08└─There are people who write lies: we call them fiction authors. There are people who make moving picture lies: we call them actors. It is, in fact, high praise when an author's work is so real it's uncanny; when an actor appears to be inhabiting her role. We find the Onion and similar parody news out...
[07:43:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Physics vs Economics - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:43] <exec> 08└─Surely, people should stop doing science so some anonymous shape on teh internetz won't call 'em ass. What made it possible again?
[07:44:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Contempt of court... - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:04] <exec> 08└─IANAL, but I'm pretty sure
[07:44:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mainstreamists are hilariously unaware - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:11] <exec> 08└─> Does the Trump's edict have any religious test? Yes it does. It says there is special privileges for people from minority religions. That's literally a religious test.
[07:44:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:Mainstreamists are hilariously unaware - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:14] <exec> 08└─Yes it does. It says there is special privileges for people from minority religions. That's literally a religious test.
[07:44:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mainstreamists are hilariously unaware - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:16] <exec> 08└─Does the Trump's edict have any religious test? I don't think so (please correct me if I'm wrong.)
[07:44:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Adamsjas [4507] (Score:2) 02Re:Mainstreamists are hilariously unaware - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 628 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:18] <exec> 08└─There is no difference that I can see. ISIS is taking credit for all the carnage in europe an california and floridia. You can ignore these and insist it is some how not the same when obama does it. You can pick at it and try to create differences between obama and trump and carter all you want. But...
[07:44:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 178 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:26] <exec> 08└─That is a lie. http://www.dailykos.com [dailykos.com]
[07:47:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03tonyPick [1237] (Score:2) 02Re:Low to High, or High to Low? - 06RISC-V Projects to Collaborate - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:22] <exec> 08└─Dunno if anyone's coined a law about it yet
[07:48:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No.. - 06Discrete Time Crystals: Rigidity, Criticality, and Realizations - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:32] <exec> 08└─> no one knows what yet Actually there's lots of awesome stuff happening right now. Same-frequency (base states most clearly, hence the earliest superconductors being low temperature) and in-phase (lot of $ in quantum entanglement engineering atm).
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[08:42:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score:2) 02Car goes fishing? - 06Hungry Penguins Help Keep Car Code Safe - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:42:27] <exec> 08└─I look forward to my next car being better at finding fish! OTOH, if the use of Penguins demonstrates that Wince is incompatible with in car entertainment, I shall be greatly relieved.
[08:44:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Mainstreamists are hilariously unaware - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:44:20] <exec> 08└─No, you are mistaken. I've always had this passport. I am American suck-up collaborator! My name is frojack. Why do you betray me now, ofter I have put my entire life on the line for your country? You bastards! I a frojack! Translator! Helpful guy! Iraqi! And you will not let me in. Well, screw you....
[08:46:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Recent update - 06Quebec City Mosque Terrorism Attack - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:46:23] <exec> 08└─Leftists bullshit spewing machine is very efficient. Here is a screenshot of his facebook groups [imgur.com] before the profile got deleted. He is a FEMINIST.
[08:46:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Recent update - 06Quebec City Mosque Terrorism Attack - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:46:24] <exec> 08└─Cubancigar! You are a feminist! So now please suck on this so that All Soylentils can experience your wisdom and expertise!
[08:46:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:If only more people used RequestPolicy - 06Replacing Gravatar and Other External Dependencies - 732 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:46:34] <exec> 08└─I use AdBlock, with a lightweight self-created filter set, and gravatar was one of the first things I added to the block list. I missed it not one iota. Most third-party junk providers get into my list very quickly. Nothing annoys me more than a website which I wish to use the full functionality of,...
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[08:46:40] <exec> 08└─It's not a problem if the company strictly aims the $$$$ edition at companies with $$$$$, and who need the extra features in order to scale, and need the SLA, etc. so that >99.99% of the users are getting a fully functional home/SOHO edition for free. That's what my company does, and for us small is...
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[09:42:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Strange, but seems to have some validity - 06Scientists Find "Earliest Known Human Ancestor" - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:42:23] <exec> 08└─""" But the researchers were unable to find any evidence that the creature had an anus. “If that was the case, then any waste material would simply have been taken out back through the mouth, which from our perspective sounds rather unappealing,” Conway Morris said. """ Yup, they've found a dire...
[09:42:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Whoops! - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:42:48] <exec> 08└─Using super-seekret admin powers I can decloak the A/C you're responding to - his usual login is Fakey McNewsFake.
[09:43:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:New media - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 777 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:43:10] <exec> 08└─Yes, it's a very old problem, and in some ways even in this incarnation it's been so close to being possible for such a long time, that it's not really a surprise that it's now doable. Consider Andy Sirtis' motion capture for Golum? I think in the first film it wasn't possible for Jackson to see Gol...
[09:43:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Trust no one - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:43:12] <exec> 08└─Acquire multiple sources and calculate an average.
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[10:42:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Automating software engineering? - 06Hungry Penguins Help Keep Car Code Safe - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:42:27] <exec> 08└─From the article: Currently, complex software was put together and tested manually, with only experience and engineering judgement to guide it, said Prof Papadopoulos. While this could produce decent results it could consider only a small fraction of all possible good solutions. The penguin-based sy...
[10:43:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03butthurt [6141] 02duplicate story - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 129 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:43:02] <exec> 08└─We already had a story about the Adobe software, in November. "Adobe Voco 'Photoshop-for-Voice' Causes Concern [soylentnews.org]"
[10:43:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Estimated 10 billion times played - 06Namco Founder and “Father of Pac-Man” has Died - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:43:17] <exec> 08└─When nintendo game and watch handhelds were all the rage at the turn of the 80s, the handheld game I most coveted was a non-nintendo pacman game. I still remember the bright yellow plastic case, and the unusual portrait dimensions contrasting against the landscape nintendos. I'd play the hell out of...
[10:43:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Bekenstein-Hawking Black Hole Entropy - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:43:32] <exec> 08└─How much of what physicists are doing isn't experimentally determinable and of actual consequence to our lives?
[10:43:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Bekenstein-Hawking Black Hole Entropy - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:43:34] <exec> 08└─What is the point of pulling out an ancient lecture about the need to back theory with evidence, while ignoring that there is evidence?
[10:43:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Bekenstein-Hawking Black Hole Entropy - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:43:37] <exec> 08└─Just because there's fancy math that suggests something is true, doesn't make it true.
[10:43:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Bekenstein-Hawking Black Hole Entropy - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:43:41] <exec> 08└─Could we stay on topic, please?
[10:44:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Physics vs Economics - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:44:01] <exec> 08└─Economists made ass of themselves pretending economics is like physics.
[10:44:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score:1) 02Differing predictions - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:44:02] <exec> 08└─The fact that there can be more than one model that describes observable reality is not surprising. What would be interesting is if the holographic model makes testable predictions that are different to the standard model, and which can be show to coincide more with observable reality than the stand...
[10:44:24] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Nerdfest [80] 02Coup - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 167 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:44:24] <exec> 08└─They also reportedly started blocking people before the executive order was made as well. This is why letting your police state get too powerful was a really bad idea.
[10:44:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mainstreamists are hilariously unaware - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:44:33] <exec> 08└─It's obvious that some Muslims would also like to get out of those hellholes, but at least they are not asked to convert or be beheaded on the spot
[10:44:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:Mainstreamists are hilariously unaware - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:44:35] <exec> 08└─Also, from the mouth of Trump-stooge Rudy Giuliani himself: http://www.independent.co.uk [independent.co.uk] Trump wanted to ban muslims, this was intended as a muslim...
[10:44:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:Mainstreamists are hilariously unaware - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:44:39] <exec> 08└─There is no difference that I can see.
[10:45:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Another doofus - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 470 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:45:04] <exec> 08└─"legal weasel words" was used in reference to a very specific quote, printed onto the green cards, that you mentioned yourself. The government has left itself an out, big enough to drive an entire brigade of Abrams tanks through. Legal weasel words, that mean, you've been promised nothing, and we ca...
[10:45:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Another doofus - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:45:06] <exec> 08└─Bottom line: The president has the legal authority to shut down immigration, at this point in time. You can appeal, which gains you a few weeks or months in detention, while waiting for your appeal to go through. And at the end of the process, if you haven't performed enough deviant sex acts for the...
[10:47:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:continous model == untested - 06Oracle Switching Solaris To A Continuous Delivery Model - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:47:20] <exec> 08└─Uncle Bob is indeed wise.
[10:47:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Reminds me of another OS - 06Oracle Switching Solaris To A Continuous Delivery Model - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:47:22] <exec> 08└─Why does this remind me of another OS? Coming up next: Updates that cannot be disabled, Telemetry, A touch GUI...
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[11:42:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03gawdonblue [412] (Score:2) 02It's cloudy - 06Mars, Venus, Moon Conjuction on Tuesday - 2 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:42:22] <exec> 08└─:(
[11:42:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Strange, but seems to have some validity - 06Scientists Find "Earliest Known Human Ancestor" - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:42:30] <exec> 08└─I was about to ask if it had blond hairs, and then I saw your comment, well done.
[11:42:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Strange, but seems to have some validity - 06Scientists Find "Earliest Known Human Ancestor" - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:42:33] <exec> 08└─Good one. That's some quality funny there.
[11:43:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bekenstein-Hawking Black Hole Entropy - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 535 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:43:48] <exec> 08└─and..this is why I don't usually bother. Not all evidence is equal. Not all evidence can be used to prove something. The above is the beginnings of a hint of evidence and is only noteworthy because the field is bereft of almost ANY evidence - and in the cast of holo-theory (or is that hollow?) it is...
[11:44:49] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:Mainstreamists are hilariously unaware - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 682 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:44:49] <exec> 08└─Executive orders "became a thing" in George Washington's administration. They're nothing new. The presidents who signed the most executive orders were, in order: - Franklin Roosevelt - Woodrow Wilson - Calvin Coolidge - Teddy Roosevelt - Herbert Hoover - Harry Truman - William Howard Taft - Warren H...
[11:45:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:world class critical thinking skills - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:45:05] <exec> 08└─Four out of how many? Yeah, they're wrong and they knew they were wrong when they handed down the decisions. They didn't do it because they were right but to allow those outside of the country time to return.
[11:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:45:10] <exec> 08└─the belief that they will cause harm
[11:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:Another doofus - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:45:17] <exec> 08└─It all boils down to the fact that green card holders have no more rights than a visa holder.
[11:45:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:WRONG! - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:45:41] <exec> 08└─You're doing that fine by yourself. I cite very definitive supporting law and you back your position up with... what? Rhetoric?
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[12:42:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03fraxinus-tree [5590] (Score:2, Informative) 02Turkey's last problem - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:18] <exec> 08└─A government trying to fuck with education is just the tip of the iceberg in Turkey.
[12:42:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Poor and dumb - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:19] <exec> 08└─An old joke goes like this. Said the religious leader to the political leader: if you keep them poor, I'll keep them dumb. But in some countries the distinction between political and religious leaders is not as clear as in the west.
[12:42:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:Poor and dumb - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:42:21] <exec> 08└─it does seem that since every human has a limit to their learning capacity, what you teach every human should be carefully crafted. I suspect that those that want $RELIGION taught, don't realise there is less space for $EVIDENCE. Seriously, being self-aware is probably the single most important evol...
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[12:42:31] <exec> 08└─Aaah, you must live in the UK. The one place where you are pretty much guaranteed to have a cloudy day if some interesting astronomical event is happening. If Chile is an astronomers heaven, the UK is like an astronomers hell.
[12:42:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:It's cloudy - 06Mars, Venus, Moon Conjuction on Tuesday - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:42:33] <exec> 08└─It was good enough for Stonehenge.
[12:42:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02monkeys too - 06Hungry Penguins Help Keep Car Code Safe - 506 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:50] <exec> 08└─Millions of virtual monkeys have almost typed out the entire works of Shakespeare by bashing random keys on simulated typewriters. The virtual monkeys, created by an American programmer, have already typed up the whole of the poem A Lover's Complaint and are 99.99 per cent of the way through the Bar...
[12:43:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Kilo110 [2853] 02Re:Whoops! - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 74 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:43:10] <exec> 08└─Your loss. It's an interesting read on the future of forged digital media.
[12:43:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Stories that Confirm Your Biases are Suspect - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:43:19] <exec> 08└─The equivalent stories to pizzagate on the other side of the political aisle: (A) Donald Trump is some kind of Manchurian Candidate completely under the control of Vladimir Putin, and (B) The Russians changed the vote totals to ensure that Trump won.
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[13:42:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:3, Insightful) 02FOSS code? - 06Dropbox's Paper Launch - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:21] <exec> 08└─Is it FOSS code? No? Don't care.
[13:42:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:FOSS code? - 06Dropbox's Paper Launch - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:23] <exec> 08└─This is your boss. Everyone's moving to Dropbox Paper. Oh, you don't want to use it because it's not frosty? You're fired! You have 5 minutes to clear out your desk!! Security!!!
[13:42:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:FOSS code? - 06Dropbox's Paper Launch - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:25] <exec> 08└─i'm glad libreoffice is sufficient. Annoying, but sufficient...
[13:42:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Devils advocate - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:36] <exec> 08└─Fine I'll throw out a devils advocate opinion and see how it fits reality. is replaced with "Living Beings and Environment"
[13:42:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score:2) 02Re:It's cloudy - 06Mars, Venus, Moon Conjuction on Tuesday - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:47] <exec> 08└─Well, that is climate change for you. Maybe the weather was clearer back then :-)
[13:42:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:It's cloudy - 06Mars, Venus, Moon Conjuction on Tuesday - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:49] <exec> 08└─the UK is like an astronomers hell.
[13:43:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:monkeys too - 06Hungry Penguins Help Keep Car Code Safe - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:08] <exec> 08└─The experiment attempts to prove the theory that an infinite number of monkeys sitting at an infinite number of typewriters would eventually reproduce the works of Shakespeare by chance.
[13:43:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02All watches are not wearable? - 06Wearable 'Watches' to Monitor Your Blood Pressure - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:43:18] <exec> 08└─Guess someone has never hear of a pocket watch.
[13:43:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Trust is not ideal - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:43] <exec> 08└─you fundamentally must be able to trust the information you see.
[13:43:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Trust is not ideal - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:45] <exec> 08└─Lets put this into a doctrine - All news is paid for.
[13:43:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Trust is not ideal - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:47] <exec> 08└─1. Apply Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit.
[13:43:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02New terms - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:43:58] <exec> 08└─Why do we need new terms for propaganda and advertising? "fake news" is in and of itself fake news a Propaganda term
[13:43:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Prediction - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 792 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:43:59] <exec> 08└─My prediction about the death of soundbite journalism is it'll eventually break down by IQ. Higher IQ groups will look at the actual issues and elections will mostly be along various party lines, the real election is designing the platform positions in the summer not the count in November, at least...
[13:44:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Bekenstein-Hawking Black Hole Entropy - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:29] <exec> 08└─and..this is why I don't usually bother.
[13:44:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Bekenstein-Hawking Black Hole Entropy - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:34] <exec> 08└─if it is all a holographic simulation
[13:44:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03NickFortune [3267] (Score:2) 02"Living in the Matrix" - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:44:57] <exec> 08└─Yes, fair enough. But suppose we're just living in a computer simulation of a 3D universe holographically encoded on the boundaries of a 2D surface? What then, hmmm?
[13:45:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Contempt of court... - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:19] <exec> 08└─Way to Godwin the thread. Besides denial of entry is a long way from gas-chambers and concentrations camps.
[13:45:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:world class critical thinking skills - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:55] <exec> 08└─Echo... Echo... Echo...
[13:46:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02intellectual coward - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:46:31] <exec> 08└─Surprise, ya wussed out. So what if you cited something? Its not applicable to arguments presented in those courts. I may be an anonymous coward, you are an intellectual coward.
[13:47:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Recent update - 06Quebec City Mosque Terrorism Attack - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:47:49] <exec> 08└─Oh I am sorry, does the association of a criminal doesn't fit your agenda?
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[14:42:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score:2) 02Re:FOSS code? - 06Dropbox's Paper Launch - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:42:30] <exec> 08└─This is your boss. Everyone's moving to Dropbox Paper.
[14:42:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:3, Touché) 02Security - 06Dropbox's Paper Launch - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:31] <exec> 08└─I think Condoleeza Rice is still on the board of directors there. She has some rather Orwellian views on privacy, so you should probably only switch to a DropBox product if you're of the opinion that Microsoft is just not getting your information to the NSA fast enough.
[14:42:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02HIPAA? - 06Dropbox's Paper Launch - 814 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:33] <exec> 08└─At one point Dropbox was very honest that their services were not HIPAA compliant. Unless that's changed, not interested. (BTW, HIPAA in relation to document security is virtually NOTHING. Must be encrypted in transit. Must be encrypted at rest. Must be willing to accept responsibility for those two...
[14:42:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:Devils advocate - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:42:44] <exec> 08└─Or if you want to piss off some (only some) of the religious fanatics tell the kids that if God created the earth then shitting on his environment is the same as shitting on his face so scientifically studying the problem will result in less shit on Gods face than making environmental decisions base...
[14:42:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Devils advocate - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 1253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:42:46] <exec> 08└─An interesting and valid comment - I'll mod you up after replying. You are quite right: "It'll never matter to any decision you make in your life" Given this, why should evolution *not* be taught? Answer this question, and we have the motivation behind Erdogan's decision. My hypothesis: It's all abo...
[14:42:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Devils advocate - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 618 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:42:48] <exec> 08└─My hypothesis: It's all about power. If you allow people to learn that there are universal truths that do not depend on the power structure within their society, then those people are less dependent on that power structure. They might even think to overthrow it (ahem...sadly, just tried and failed)....
[14:42:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Devils advocate - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 1905 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:42:50] <exec> 08└─I don't disagree with your analysis and conclusion of of the hypothesis, but... if he had a dislike of universal truths he'd be burning philosophy books, physics books, math books, history books, geology books, it would be quite a book burning party. Of course specifically going after evolution toda...
[14:42:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fake education - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:52] <exec> 08└─I guess you can apply stupid to anything...
[14:42:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Trump reopens border to brothers in Creationism? - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 622 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:55] <exec> 08└─Wonder how well Islamic Creationists get along with Christian Creationists? Would a "good" Christian rather be in the same room with someone who follows Jesus and accepts Darwin, or someone who follows Muhammed and denies Darwin? Something to realize is this is never about Evolution per se. It's abo...
[14:42:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Very nice quote - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:57] <exec> 08└─Thank you for the last link in TFS, everyone should take a look at it. I liked the following quote a lot: Bayraktar explains that for Muslims, evolution can be viewed as a process preordained by God to create species through natural means, just like God “creates” rain through natural means that...
[14:42:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Turkey... - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:59] <exec> 08└─Turkey is the northern part of the old Caliphate. There are groups trying to get the southern parts back together, and the Turkish leaders want to be part of the fun. The major disagreement being on who gets to be caliph. Of course either side sees themselves as the new leaders. The groups trying to...
[14:43:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score:2) 02kstars - 06Mars, Venus, Moon Conjuction on Tuesday - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:43:12] <exec> 08└─You can always look at a simulation in kstars. Even if it's not cloudy, you can use it to orient and preview the best observation times.
[14:43:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Fake News - 06Mars, Venus, Moon Conjuction on Tuesday - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:43:13] <exec> 08└─Venus will shine slightly brighter than Mars, since it's closer to the Earth
[14:43:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02As above - 06Mars, Venus, Moon Conjuction on Tuesday - 739 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:43:15] <exec> 08└─Venus is the brightest thing shining in the sky. It looks like somebody turned on a spotlight far-far away from you and is pointing it right at you. As I was observing it Friday night I had to use darkening filters (neutral density and variable polarizer) on my telescope to view it comfortably. And...
[14:43:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:2) 02Empty article. - 06Hungry Penguins Help Keep Car Code Safe - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:43:35] <exec> 08└─Is it possible to mod an article down instead of a comment? While amusing to talk of penguins and programming, there is no technical information in this article at all. It is pure fluff. Not even a hint as to how they are going to reorganize the software process.
[14:43:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03KritonK [465] (Score:2) 02Re:Empty article. - 06Hungry Penguins Help Keep Car Code Safe - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:43:36] <exec> 08└─Perhaps they simply mean that, by using Linux instead of Windows, they achieved a significant decrease in the amount of software crashes.
[14:43:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Whoops! - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:43:57] <exec> 08└─Awesome! I know this one. We just need to ask the GP how the other news reporter would report the story and we'll know to choose the opposite door.
[14:44:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Some call me Tim [5819] 02Re:Trust is not ideal - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 475 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:44:08] <exec> 08└─Why must you make decisions in real time? Why can't you wait a week for the real story to come out and make your decision then? This is the real problem with internet "news". News site makes fantastic claim, everyone twitfacebooks it as the truth never ending and it turns out to be total crap later....
[14:44:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:44:13] <exec> 08└─From that text: Why don’t Sophocles, Democritus, and Aristarchus dictate their lost books?
[14:44:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Prediction - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:44:29] <exec> 08└─Its pretty much the same as the old social class structure saying about what people talk about, which more or less maps to IQ anyway.
[14:44:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Prediction - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:44:31] <exec> 08└─which more or less maps to IQ anyway.
[14:45:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:So this is the opposite of the other theory? - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 2140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:15] <exec> 08└─close its the opposite (ish) of the string theory stuff that requires 26, 10, or maybe 11 dimensions. One way to deal with different forces being much weaker or much stronger than others is to hack in some extra very large or very small dimensions for the obscure forces to travel thru. another hack...
[14:45:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Differing predictions - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 2977 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:29] <exec> 08└─Yeah the journalist coverage is wild (as usual) but I read the actual abstract and they ran a bunch of sims using both a holographic model and the current champion standard model, and sometimes in some situations the holographic models produce a cosmic background radiation pattern that looks more li...
[14:45:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:Colour of Law - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:47] <exec> 08└─The US does have a Deprivation of rights under color of law [cornell.edu] law. The biggest benefit is that the individual or individuals who are doing the deprivation cannon hide behind their position. I have long said we need to see more instances of this being used as it seems all too often overlo...
[14:45:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:Contempt of court... - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:57] <exec> 08└─But the courts can punish individuals who deprived an individual of their rights. Since they are continuing to violate people's rights it might be time to slap the individual agents with Deprivation Of Rights Under Color Of Law [soylentnews.org] charges. Their job does not protect them from this cha...
[14:46:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Islam is even more fragmented than christianity - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 433 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:07] <exec> 08└─> Not entirely. Islam is split in two groups (Shia and Sunni). Its not just shia and sunni, islam is hugely fragmented, much more than christianity. For example, there are sufis, which are the source of their greatest artists and poets and are also universally looked down on. And within the sunnis t...
[14:46:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mainstreamists are hilariously unaware - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 538 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:09] <exec> 08└─> These changes have to be within the law, You know just saying that in the order doesn't make the order lawful. Kinda like the democratic peoples republica of korea isn't really democratic. > that's a different story, but at least they probably won't be killed for sport.) The sophistry is weak in y...
[14:46:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Switching sides in this argument. - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:43] <exec> 08└─I'm losing so badly here, I'm switching sides. I'm going to start arguing Bill Clinton's side of this thing. I'm tired of Trumping here. https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[14:46:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03DutchUncle [5370] (Score:2) 02Re:Another doofus - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:47] <exec> 08└─This is about changing an INDIVIDUAL's status after due process, just like suspending a driver's license. It is not about blanket changes.
[14:46:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Desler [880] (Score:2) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:56] <exec> 08└─Since when have laws been absolute and above judicial review? Oh right, never.
[14:47:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:01] <exec> 08└─And the judiciary has the power to overturn it. It's called checks and balances.
[14:47:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Sympathy for the Dead is Easy - 06Quebec City Mosque Terrorism Attack - 708 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:52] <exec> 08└─That seems to be assuming a level of control and reasoning often missing in mass murderers. The logical thinking pattern might be as simple as "whoo hoo love this new anti-depressant pill time to set a new high score" which is a well known pharmacology problem thats happened a zillion times. Weird t...
[14:48:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Police have not released names - 06Quebec City Mosque Terrorism Attack - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:48:15] <exec> 08└─I've also heard the younglings shout it. Seems to be a replacement for "YOLO". I'm still a fan of "Leeeeroy!" but that only works before you do the dumb thing.
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[15:42:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:42:24] <exec> 08└─Isn't there a thing called Chromium? Please note that this affects Google Chrome and Chromium.
[15:42:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 1114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:42:26] <exec> 08└─The fact they also restricted configuration options in Chromium means that they are really intending to curtail something, or forcefully enable something else. I wonder if perhaps they are now emboldened with the recent administration changes? Business friendly initiatives allow for much maneuvering...
[15:42:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:3, Informative) 02Brave? - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 494 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:42:28] <exec> 08└─I'm currently giving Brave [brave.com] a try. It offers built-in blockers for ads, trackers and scripts, as well as an experimental fingerprinting-blocker. Personally, I don't think their idea a of user-driven payment model will ever work, but that's a separate issue. FWIW, a few things work differe...
[15:42:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 1314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:42:30] <exec> 08└─Vivaldi came up yesterday, which I use despite its warts as my main browser. It's at least worth a shot, and it uses Chrome's extensions. I just checked vivaldi://plugins, and as of 1.6.689.40 at least Widevine and the Chromium PDF viewer can be disabled yet. I don't expect that will go away just gi...
[15:42:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:42:32] <exec> 08└─Pale Moon runs on Linux and there is a third-party build available for Mac OS X. Stop spreading misinformation.
[15:42:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:42:34] <exec> 08└─If it's Webkit/Blink you want, maybe it's time to try Vivaldi [vivaldi.com].
[15:42:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03NickFortune [3267] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:42:36] <exec> 08└─Happy Pale Moon user here. I'd recommend it.
[15:42:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03zeigerpuppy [1298] (Score:2) 02confused - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:42:38] <exec> 08└─I'm a bit confused about how this applies to Chromium. As far as i understood, Chromium is open source (but still largely developed by Google). I'd be fairly sure that if they continu down this path, Chromium will fork, probably not a bad thng either. The tricky bit is maintaining upstream compatabi...
[15:42:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score:2) 02Re:confused - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:42:41] <exec> 08└─> (but still largely developed by Google) How precisely will they fork? Who will do the forking, and maintain the code base, implement new features?
[15:42:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bobs [1462] (Score:2) 02TOR - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:42:43] <exec> 08└─I have recently been experimenting with TOR as my web browser. Based upon a Mozilla core. Seems to work fine for reading most pages, so why not? And it helps to improve the noise to signal ratio for people doing things requiring privacy. https://www.torproject.org [torproject.org] Any downsides I sh...
[15:42:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Nerdfest [80] 02Security - 06Dropbox's Paper Launch - 270 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:42:53] <exec> 08└─I think Condoleeza Rice is still on the board of directors there. She has some rather Orwellian views on privacy, so you should probably only switch to a DropBox product if you're of the opinion that Microsoft is just not getting your information to the NSA fast enough.
[15:43:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Turkey's last problem - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:43:03] <exec> 08└─Do they use Erdogan as an example to dispute Evolution?
[15:43:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03tisI [5866] (Score:2) 02Re:Poor and dumb - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:43:07] <exec> 08└─In America, our money says "In God We Trust". On the streets we say we are a Christian country. Yet everywhere on the streets, in the malls, and at work, all I see godless heathens dragging the Lords name through the dirt and being complete assholes about it all. And now all these troll comments. Si...
[15:43:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Re:Devils advocate - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:43:14] <exec> 08└─The question is, do you want to teach kids to make rational decisions in their life, or destroy their ability to do so?
[15:43:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Very nice quote - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:43:19] <exec> 08└─Science is just the study of God's creations. :^)
[15:43:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:It's cloudy - 06Mars, Venus, Moon Conjuction on Tuesday - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:43:31] <exec> 08└─I read something about that once. I think England had about fifteen to twenty clear days EVERY YEAR back then. It was amazing.
[15:43:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:It's cloudy - 06Mars, Venus, Moon Conjuction on Tuesday - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:43:34] <exec> 08└─Yup, it's a right pain. http://www.meteoradar.co.uk [meteoradar.co.uk]
[15:43:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fake News - 06Mars, Venus, Moon Conjuction on Tuesday - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:43:38] <exec> 08└─Well, what about the inverse square law? Surely, being closer to the Earth does indeed help its brightness, too.
[15:43:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Fake News - 06Mars, Venus, Moon Conjuction on Tuesday - 1007 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:43:40] <exec> 08└─I haven't looked as to the relative positions of Mars and Venus, but for the last couple of months I've been looking at Venus/Mars/Moon whenever there's no clouds (sadly quite rare). You can just about pick out mars in my town (findable thanks to the position of venus/moon), but Venus is easily spot...
[15:44:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Trust is not ideal - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:44:41] <exec> 08└─So... "fake news" suggests that there exists somewhere any other kind of news. Not in my personal experience. Every newsworthy event I've experienced in person has been grossly misreported.
[15:44:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Prediction - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:44:57] <exec> 08└─Wealth is yet another third hierarchy. Someone like, I donno, a priest or bishop isn't very wealthy (ahem officially) but certainly high status. Or going the other way I expect the average room temp IQ pro athlete or hollywood actor to vote purely along identity politics lines regardless how many Po...
[15:45:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Dear Phoenix - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:55] <exec> 08└─Soylentils complain there are too many political, non-technical, non-science centered stories. Science stories are then submitted, and Soylentils complain the submitters should stick to non-technical, non-science subjects. Sigh, OK. More Trump articles, then?
[15:47:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:34] <exec> 08└─Well not like everything else. Sometimes it is considered a tax and not a tax so that it can wriggle in and out of the taxing authority of congress as needed.
[15:48:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02I think this scientist has a day job... - 06High-Energy Electrons Synced to Ultrafast Laser Pulse to Probe Vibrational States of Atoms - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:48:02] <exec> 08└─I think he's the guy who writes all of the product information on "audiophile" product websites.
[15:49:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:TANSTAAFL - 06Replacing Gravatar and Other External Dependencies - 661 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:49:21] <exec> 08└─I think this is what this article is all about. Not enough people are paying for the $$$$ version, so they are taking away the free version. When you are not open source, this is what a company can do. It sucks, but it is their right to do so. I would only trust a company in this position if the fre...
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[16:42:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Reminds me of lunch - 06Cassini Takes Close View of Saturn's Rings in "Grazing" Phase - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:42:28] <exec> 08└─Today I am grazing on onion rings.
[16:42:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:42:39] <exec> 08└─So then, Don't Be Evil, unless you can do so quickly enough that it is too late for anyone to do anything about it.
[16:42:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 681 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:42:43] <exec> 08└─Midori is pleasant under Linux, but I'm using firefox instead since Google disconinued Chrome on my machine. The Midori I tried is the one packaged by my distro, Devuan, Observations about Midori: (1) I can't figure out how to import bookmarks from Firefox or Chrome. (2) When I use file:// to access...
[16:42:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:42:47] <exec> 08└─...I am going back to seamonkey [seamonkey-project.org].
[16:42:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:42:50] <exec> 08└─Vivaldi [vivaldi.com]! Arrggh!
[16:42:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:42:52] <exec> 08└─Vivaldi! Arrggh!
[16:42:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:42:54] <exec> 08└─I look forward to your series of code audits!
[16:42:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:42:56] <exec> 08└─I like Palemoon but it's a temporary workaround. As it continues to track firefox it continues to accumulate new brain damage. Use links.
[16:42:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score:1) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:42:58] <exec> 08└─Seamonkey (Netscape) is still the best, always has been. You can stop looking for alternatives.
[16:43:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:confused - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:43:02] <exec> 08└─How precisely will they fork? Who will do the forking, and maintain the code base, implement new features?
[16:43:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:1) 02Re:confused - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:43:05] <exec> 08└─It's been user-hostile from the very beginning, this only the latest issue. Go ask the noscript guy why he doesn't make a chrome extension, the answer should be enlightening.
[16:43:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:TOR - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:43:08] <exec> 08└─I have recently been experimenting with TOR as my web browser. ... Any downsides I should be aware of?
[16:43:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02already fixed? - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 409 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:10] <exec> 08└─I checked the chrome web store (the same place you install your ssh client or whatever) and seems someone already has a plugin to create a toolbar icon to give you the plugin URL experience. My gut level guess given that most plugins are crap is they're gutting them entirely or the UI of going to a...
[16:43:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Who cares - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:12] <exec> 08└─So non-free software becomes slightly more non-free..big deal. Nobody should be using it anyway.
[16:43:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:Security - 06Dropbox's Paper Launch - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:43:24] <exec> 08└─I have been getting SPAM to my dropbox e-mail address again. They either sold the list of suffered another data-breach.
[16:43:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:HIPAA? - 06Dropbox's Paper Launch - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:43:27] <exec> 08└─So anything that won't come right out and say, "Here's how our product fully complies with HIPAA".... well, why would you trust that with any information?
[16:43:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Turkey's last problem - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:43:38] <exec> 08└─A government trying to fuck with education is just the tip of the iceberg that is Turkey. FTFY
[16:43:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:Poor and dumb - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 572 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:43:43] <exec> 08└─'in god we trust' came about in the 50's (recently, not 200 yrs ago) when 'we' were afraid of the godless commies. this was not the real america speaking; it was an over-reaction and it actually goes AGAINST what america was formed FOR! religious freedom was one of the main reasons listed for the cr...
[16:43:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Devils advocate - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:43:50] <exec> 08└─or replacing history books with copies of Mein Kampf quietly last week or next week
[16:43:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Devils advocate - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 1171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:43:53] <exec> 08└─Continuing in Devils Advocate mode, its the classic teach a kid how to swim by tossing in the deep end or the shallow end. Surely the firestorm of evolution would be tossing the kid in the deep end, we can probably agree on that. Perhaps teaching the same skills in a much more mellow scene of scient...
[16:43:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03JavaDevGuy [5155] (Score:1) 02Re:Devils advocate - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 545 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:43:55] <exec> 08└─Well if you want to get out of your locality, broaden your mind, and work in the wider world it probably does matter that you know how the world works and don't follow superstition as your guide to the universe. Once the magic is taught as science it becomes easier to attack geology, then space scie...
[16:44:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Turkey... - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:44:02] <exec> 08└─Time to Liberate Constantinople. DEUS VULT!
[16:44:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fake News - 06Mars, Venus, Moon Conjuction on Tuesday - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:44:21] <exec> 08└─Yes, the phase will be yet another huge factor besides distance from the Earth. I also don't feel like working it all out right now though.
[16:44:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score:2) 02Ah, animal-based artificial intelligence - 06Hungry Penguins Help Keep Car Code Safe - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:44] <exec> 08└─The plot of the book "Prey" by Michael Crighton [wikipedia.org] is driven by some software called PREDPREY, a fictional set of artificial intelligence algorithms modeled after prey-seeking animals. I don't recall whether penguins or fish were mentioned. As you might predict, the algorithm learns......
[16:44:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Hype? - 06Wearable 'Watches' to Monitor Your Blood Pressure - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:55] <exec> 08└─But before scientists can create this new technology, they need to understand what the pressure inside a blood vessel "looks" like on the surface of the skin. And to do that, they must make a physical model that can be used to test wearable devices in a laboratory.
[16:45:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] 02A moment of non-silence for a great man - 06Namco Founder and “Father of Pac-Man” has Died - 38 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:50] <exec> 08└─Pretty much says it all [youtube.com].
[16:46:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02asking the legislative - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:46:47] <exec> 08└─wow, the law machine is going to luv this ... not. now they have to re-write all the laws; cue the modern "witch-hunting" in 3, 2, 1 ... example: you didn't touch or interact physically in the classical sense but nevertheless, because of holografic physics, the person got sick because of you!
[16:48:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:intellectual coward - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:48:30] <exec> 08└─Name calling now? How juvenile can you get in an effort to not have to back up your assertions?
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[17:42:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:Reminds me of lunch - 06Cassini Takes Close View of Saturn's Rings in "Grazing" Phase - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:42:39] <exec> 08└─I think you mean: "This week, oi 'ave been mostly eating..."
[17:42:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:42:53] <exec> 08└─so.. like high frequency trading? :-P
[17:42:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:42:57] <exec> 08└─Good catch. Binaries here [palemoon.org]. Additionally, Pale Moon is included in and can be installed directly from the default repositories of the following distros: - Manjaro - PCLinuxOS - Puppy Linux - MEPIS/MX-15 - Arch User Repository (AUR) - Gentoo Overlays [here? [github.com]] - Slackbuilds
[17:42:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:43:00] <exec> 08└─I just installed Vivaldi. I'm going to give it a test run today, but so far, I could see myself replacing chrome with it as my new standard.
[17:43:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 911 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:43:08] <exec> 08└─I fail to see the point of your comment. To me, freedom is important in and of itself and it's a great injustice if software denies users their freedoms. Regarding audits, if the software respects my freedoms, I can audit the code myself (as you suggested), hire someone to audit the code, choose to...
[17:43:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:43:11] <exec> 08└─At this point the only thing it accumulates from firefox is security fixes.
[17:43:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:43:13] <exec> 08└─I like Palemoon but it's a temporary workaround. As it continues to track firefox it continues to accumulate new brain damage.
[17:43:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:2) 02Pale Moon - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 459 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:43:17] <exec> 08└─I use Pale Moon as my standard browser, even do I have to use Chrome and even Edge sometimes to test something or other. Pale Moon is not perfect but at least it remains true to the original Firefox concept and as far as I can tell, it doesn’t phone home or does other nasty privacy-busting shit. I...
[17:43:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03ese002 [5306] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:already fixed? - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:43:26] <exec> 08└─My gut level guess given that most plugins are crap is they're gutting them entirely or the UI of going to a URL is too weird for the average (L)user and somehow they ripped out the old UI before pushing in the new UI.
[17:43:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Who cares - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:43:29] <exec> 08└─last time I checked. Chromium was FOSS, and they are also getting this treatment (as per TFS).
[17:43:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Security - 06Dropbox's Paper Launch - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:43:42] <exec> 08└─I had to switch mine a few years ago, but haven't recently.
[17:43:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:Security - 06Dropbox's Paper Launch - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:43:44] <exec> 08└─That suggests that somebody is just spamming the old list. (Since I don't use dropbox, didn't bother updating my address)
[17:44:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score:2) 02Re:Poor and dumb - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 369 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:44:02] <exec> 08└─While I would like to believe you are right about this, I don't think you are. The founders talked about religious freedom, but the early colonists didn't come to create a land where there was religious freedom, instead, their goal was much narrower: freedom to practice their own brand of religion....
[17:44:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Poor and dumb - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:44:04] <exec> 08└─"In God We Trust" was added to our money (say as "under God" in the pledge) during the McCarthy Era hysteria when everyone was afraid commies were hiding under their beds.
[17:44:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Poor and dumb - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:44:06] <exec> 08└─The God of the Abrahamic religions is, to use a topical example, essentially the bastard buttbaby of Donald Trump and Kim Jong Il with infinite power. That is not something anyone with any actual morals--no, divine command theory does not and indeed *cannot* ground morality--would worship. It may be...
[17:44:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Devils advocate - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:44:10] <exec> 08└─Revelation 11:18 NIV " . . . . [18] The nations were angry, and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your people who revere your name, both great and small— and for destroying those who des...
[17:44:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bradley13 [3053] 02Re:Devils advocate - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 1253 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:44:12] <exec> 08└─An interesting and valid comment - I'll mod you up after replying. You are quite right: "It'll never matter to any decision you make in your life" Given this, why should evolution *not* be taught? Answer this question, and we have the motivation behind Erdogan's decision. My hypothesis: It's all abo...
[17:44:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilsa [6082] (Score:2) 02Re:Devils advocate - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:44:17] <exec> 08└─Oh. My. . This is an absolute brilliant argument, and I had never thought about it from this perspective before. Now that you've said it, it makes so much sense, and does an excellent job of explaining the motivations behind a lot of the decisions made by the religious right in general. (Not just Tu...
[17:44:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:Devils advocate - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:44:21] <exec> 08└─Hmm, I don't think your metaphor makes much sense. It's not like this: Deep end == learning evolutionary biology Shallow End == religious dogma It's more like this: Evolutionary biology == deep end Basic biology == shallow end religious dogma == trying to learn to swim by banging plucking your eyebr...
[17:44:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Very nice quote - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 784 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:44:28] <exec> 08└─The Big Bang is the brightest thing that ever happened. That incredibly bright event should illuminate the entire sky. The entire universe. Oh, wait. It does. The Big Bang created space. The universe is still expanding. Space is stretching. In the time of 13.7 billion years, as space stretches that...
[17:44:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03kanweg [4737] (Score:1) 02Re:Very nice quote - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:44:30] <exec> 08└─Of course god does not create individual rain drops. They form when the conditions of certain physical laws are met. So, actually, no god is necessary. Left alone your or their's. Oh, you want to state that the physical laws are created? Well, if there is something, there has to be some rule. Even n...
[17:44:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Turkey... - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:44:35] <exec> 08└─Because that worked so well last time, riiiight?
[17:44:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Evolution envy - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:44:37] <exec> 08└─Some swing cacti in rage, others ban the subject. Go figure.
[17:44:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Thesis/Antithesis - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 627 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:44:39] <exec> 08└─For better or worse, people seem to live off the idea of thesis/antithesis, much like how the "repressive, godless USSR" led the US to be both much more free than it otherwise would have been and much more godly. (See how much America has changed since the fall of the USSR, and the lack of an "evil...
[17:44:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:As above - 06Mars, Venus, Moon Conjuction on Tuesday - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:44:59] <exec> 08└─Uranus will be nearby, too, but you'll have to imagine it.
[17:45:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Silver Lining - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:50] <exec> 08└─Perhaps people will begin to exercise their critical thinking abilities in an attempt to not be played for fools.
[17:46:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:Trust no one - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:46:17] <exec> 08└─The problem with that is that people deliberately game the system by advancing extreme positions. It is even a well-known negotiating tactic. You ask for the moon, but then settle on something that hopefully approximates what you really want.
[17:46:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Social class does not map to IQ. - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:46:23] <exec> 08└─Its pretty much the same as the old social class structure saying about what people talk about, which more or less maps to IQ anyway.
[17:46:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Prediction - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:46:26] <exec> 08└─Repeat after me, "eugenics is bad science".
[17:46:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03iWantToKeepAnon [686] (Score:2) 02Bad lip reading - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:46:28] <exec> 08└─Can they make Putin ask for a double sided Scooby snack [youtube.com]?
[17:47:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02Re:Dear Phoenix - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 259 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:23] <exec> 08└─Soylentils complain there are too many political, non-technical, non-science centered stories. Science stories are then submitted, and Soylentils complain the submitters should stick to non-technical, non-science subjects. Sigh, OK. More Trump articles, then?
[17:48:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Switching sides in this argument. - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:48:44] <exec> 08└─Lol I was expecting something better. Podium rhetoric is not the best stuff to compare, gotta compare the actions. No one here is against immigration control as a thing, just the manner in which we go about it. You conservatives really need to stop acting like liberals hate everything you stand for,...
[17:48:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 428 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:48:56] <exec> 08└─Never said they were. A judge ruling on the law rather than ideals would have granted an immediate stay on their order though. These rulings were directly counter to both book and case law and thus illegal. Unfortunately you don't get to throw judges off the bench for that. Or do anything else to th...
[17:49:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:49:02] <exec> 08└─And what happens when the judiciary makes a ruling it knows is illegal and will be overturned simply to buy time enough that those currently outside the country can return? Where's the check on that power? No, you do not follow illegal orders.
[17:49:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:49:09] <exec> 08└─Heh, good one. +1 for you.
[17:49:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02intellectual dishonesty invites name calling - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:49:19] <exec> 08└─You have yet to address any of the points raised in the FOUR rulings, but I'm the one not backing my assertions. That kind of intellectual dishonesty invites name calling.
[17:49:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Here is VLM endorsing the invective and rhetoric - 06Quebec City Mosque Terrorism Attack - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:49:59] <exec> 08└─Oh look, here is VLM endorsing the invective and rhetoric. I am so not surprised. You are the problem.
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[18:42:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02I'm underwhelmed by almost all modern devices/apps - 06Ringing in 2017 With Updates to Our Google Voice Apps - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:42:37] <exec> 08└─I cannot use these things without finding glaring irritations in the first few seconds; it's like the developers don't even use their own stuff—it's like the developers spend most of their time stuck behind giant 8K displays driven by 128-bit octo-cores with 32-GiB RAM, 16-TiB SSD storage, 2 paral...
[18:42:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Cancel - 06Ringing in 2017 With Updates to Our Google Voice Apps - 1699 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:42:38] <exec> 08└─I'm just glad they didn't do the Google thing and cancel. I miss Reader. Newsblur is nice, but... I think I've been using GV for a long time, maybe a decade, since the "grand central" days, and its been great. The irony is the feature set would have been killer like 30 years ago when I still used le...
[18:42:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Celestial [4891] (Score:2) 02Re:Cancel - 06Ringing in 2017 With Updates to Our Google Voice Apps - 969 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:42:40] <exec> 08└─That reminds me. This is a bit off-topic and I apologize, but: My sister and her family live on the other side of the continent from our parents and myself. About four years ago, I set both my sister and her family and my parents up with Skype accounts and Skype television cameras. The Skype televis...
[18:42:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Celestial [4891] (Score:2) 02VoIP Block - 06Ringing in 2017 With Updates to Our Google Voice Apps - 804 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:42:42] <exec> 08└─I read about this Google Voice revamp last week, and signed up to try it. I've run into an interesting problem. Companies are starting to block VoIP telephone numbers, including Google Voice. I ran into this with a few different companies. One is the Telegram app. I tried moving my Telegram account...
[18:42:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Safe and Legal TRACKING. - 06Ringing in 2017 With Updates to Our Google Voice Apps - 494 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:42:45] <exec> 08└─You understand why they want your real cellphone number, right? It's because it's a highly-effective and legally-unencumbered way to track you. Using your social security number is fraught will legal traps. But there are no legal constrains using your cellphone number to built a complete portfolia o...
[18:42:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilsa [6082] (Score:2) 02Re:VoIP Block - 06Ringing in 2017 With Updates to Our Google Voice Apps - 721 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:42:47] <exec> 08└─SMS over VOIP has always been a total crapshoot. There are apparently special settings/designations/something required for a number to be deemed SMS-able, and if something is missing, SMS just silently fails. It is an absolute, utter, PITA to get working reliably. I tried to go the VOIP route but ev...
[18:42:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Reminds me of lunch - 06Cassini Takes Close View of Saturn's Rings in "Grazing" Phase - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:42:57] <exec> 08└─I'd call the medics right away if you plan on munching on rings with a ~20000000/1 aspect ratio. One hell of a papercut.
[18:43:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:43:12] <exec> 08└─I wonder if perhaps they are now emboldened with the recent administration changes? Business friendly initiatives allow for much maneuvering. I'm as freaked out as the next bleeding-heart liberal, but, REALLY?
[18:43:15] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 111 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:43:15] <exec> 08└─Pale Moon runs on Linux and there is a third-party build available for Mac OS X. Stop spreading misinformation.
[18:43:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:confused - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:43:35] <exec> 08└─Firefox itself is a major example of possibility 4. The useless non-programmers pushed the programmers aside and ruined it by focusing on social issues, cosmetic changes, and licking corporate boots instead of making the software better. Seems to happen to all great FOSS projects eventually. Latest...
[18:43:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:TOR - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 1743 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:43:39] <exec> 08└─Duh, nobody is an exit node. Anyone who attempted would be promptly arrested for downloading child porn. Which is why the three letter agencies operate all of the exit nodes, they are the only ones who can both ignore all of the world's laws requiring shutting down IPs downloading copyright material...
[18:43:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:already fixed? - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:43:43] <exec> 08└─One suspects Google will prove more competent that GNOME/RedHat. Just saying. If nothing else their decisions to avoid RedHat "New Tech" in both Android and ChromeOS demonstrates technical competence. I wonder though, do they use systemd in their server farms?
[18:43:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Who cares - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:43:47] <exec> 08└─Ipso facto, Chromium is not Free.
[18:43:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Non story? - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 556 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:49] <exec> 08└─Isn't this basically a non-story? Plugins are going away period. Chome is removing them, Firefox is removing them, IE/Edge is removing them. They are dying, Netcraft confirms it. So they are either moving the features into the browser, converting them to extensions or dropping them. But because Flas...
[18:43:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Non story? - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:43:52] <exec> 08└─What is this "Flash" that you speak of? I haven't seen such a plug-in in any browser I use at home or work in years. Web pages I'm interested in all work fine. Any page that doesn't work I'm not interested in, or I send an email and ask why their website is broken.
[18:44:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Security - 06Dropbox's Paper Launch - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:44:07] <exec> 08└─I changed my address once it was compromised. The new one has yet to be compromised. Not sure what's happening with the old one as anything coming in on that address is deleted immediately.
[18:44:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Poor and dumb - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:44:27] <exec> 08└─. “The Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.” ~1797 Treaty of Tripoli signed by Founding Father John Adams
[18:44:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Devils advocate - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 2823 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:44:42] <exec> 08└─OK that's the western social signalling response which sounds really good to westerners (like us) and probably has some aspect of truth to it but has the problem of being very optimistic and absolute in isolation. First the targeting is wrong, these are all Turk school kids. Not the one Turk kid who...
[18:44:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score:2) 02Re:Devils advocate - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 641 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:44:43] <exec> 08└─You can make the same argument about many subjects that are taught in schools (paraphrasing: "it doesn't matter if kids are taught this specific area of knowledge") and it will be true for large proportions of the population. What makes evolution different is that real scientific knowledge is being...
[18:44:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Devils advocate - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:44:46] <exec> 08└─That's a lot of words. Here's a much simpler rebuttal: Teach science in science class.
[18:44:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score:2) 02Re:Very nice quote - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 517 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:44:54] <exec> 08└─It's a completely pointless argument. How about another: the universe was created about 6000 years ago, and it was made to look like it is billions of years old and created following a big bang. The interesting thing about these arguments is that they have no utility. Even if you take them as true,...
[18:45:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02People still try to "learn" in school - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 921 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:01] <exec> 08└─Last I was in school, there was very little learning going on. I remember lots of memorization (which the mind will naturally and thankfully easily forget except for odd fake facts like "wizard of oz was the first color movie", "mushrooms are vegetables"), brainwashing to use BS statistics instead o...
[18:45:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Kindred spirits - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:03] <exec> 08└─Turkish imams and Kansas republicans. Sharia law and family values.
[18:45:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Fake News - 06Mars, Venus, Moon Conjuction on Tuesday - 358 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:22] <exec> 08└─Someone did the math and wrote in a newspaper that Venus would keep getting brighter until about the 15th of February. Then, as it gets closer to Earth, the crescent will shrink fast and reduce the reflected light. Even if it's cloudy today for the conjunction, it's still not too late to notice how...
[18:45:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Fake News - 06Mars, Venus, Moon Conjuction on Tuesday - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:24] <exec> 08└─I love that the AC decrees "Fake News" based on a ridiculous back of the envelope calculation. Meanwhile, iso just goes outside and looks. +1 for empiricism.
[18:45:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Car goes fishing? - 06Hungry Penguins Help Keep Car Code Safe - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:43] <exec> 08└─> I look forward to my next car being better at finding fish! Given their target demographics, how long before NASCAR jumps at the opportunity to include fishing in their car races? I'm already quite surprised that they haven't included guns and explosives yet.
[18:45:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:monkeys too - 06Hungry Penguins Help Keep Car Code Safe - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:48] <exec> 08└─The beauty of infinity is that it doesn't actually matter what the probabilities are, as long as they're not zero.
[18:46:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Trust no one - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:47] <exec> 08└─You would have to weigh the sources. You cannot give weight of 1.0 to every stupid "news" site. I learned long ago when contemplating selling a WoW account how shit on the internet works. I checked out dozen account selling sites and realized ALL of them were linked to the same database.... I contac...
[18:48:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not when... - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:48:16] <exec> 08└─Maybe this will finally help American society decide which values it stands behind
[18:48:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Mainstreamists are hilariously unaware - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:48:32] <exec> 08└─Teddy Roosevelt is a pretty funny example of "Republican abuse." While he was originally a Republican, he did a lot of very unconservative things like trust-busting and actually resigned from the party to run against his successor Taft, in the process torpedoing both of them and getting Democrat Woo...
[18:48:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Mainstreamists are hilariously unaware - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 656 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:48:45] <exec> 08└─And banning valid visas and green cards is much broader than banning applications for entry. You can't insult your way out of a logical argument the way Trump does. He actually doesn't get out of them either, he just ignores people and keeps doing what he wants. You may see that as some sort of "str...
[18:49:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 584 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:49:06] <exec> 08└─Are you sure that there are no conflicting laws, treaties, or something in the Constitution? Even if what you say is true, America is a common law jurisdiction, which means Judges interpret the law and can even make law at times. The way it works is the Judges decision stands unless a higher Judge o...
[18:49:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:the judge has no case - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:49:11] <exec> 08└─As the POTUS the "belief" must be backed by some sort of evidence, he can't just wake up and ban people from the UK because a british comedian made fun of him. Probably part of why such an order is subject to judicial oversight, to keep such crazy actions like I made up from being enacted.
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[19:42:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02I'm an Engineer - 06Snooze Patterns Vary Across Cultures, Opening Eyes to Evolution of Sleep - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:42:30] <exec> 08└─I'm an engineer and I don't need sleep. That's for mundanes. Heads to coffee machine for employer-provided stimulants.
[19:42:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03charon [5660] (Score:1) 02Re:Cancel - 06Ringing in 2017 With Updates to Our Google Voice Apps - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:42:40] <exec> 08└─Huh, maybe my being a tech skeptic will pay off for once. I don't have a smartphone or a web cam, so I cannot accept video chat calls. Which is a good thing because I would never want to.
[19:42:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Celestial [4891] (Score:2) 02Re:Cancel - 06Ringing in 2017 With Updates to Our Google Voice Apps - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:42:42] <exec> 08└─Yeah, video chat is really only good for very long distance loved ones, IMO. People you actually only see IRL once or twice a year IRL that you'd rather see much more often. Other than that, no thanks.
[19:42:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:VoIP Block - 06Ringing in 2017 With Updates to Our Google Voice Apps - 595 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:42:47] <exec> 08└─I currently use voip,ms Their SMS service appears relatively reliable but you have to use their crappy web-interface. One thing that implies is: no notifications when you receive a message (though they have a (polled) API for checking messages IIRC). Another annoying thing with them is that their TO...
[19:42:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:VoIP Block - 06Ringing in 2017 With Updates to Our Google Voice Apps - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:42:49] <exec> 08└─Burner SIM?
[19:42:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Bucket List - 06Cassini Takes Close View of Saturn's Rings in "Grazing" Phase - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:00] <exec> 08└─Reminds me of the person at work who is near retirement and says what they REALLY think because they don't have to worry as much about being reprimanded. It's often refreshing because they are usually right. Similarly, Cassini's mission is near its end such that it can take bigger risks and get clos...
[19:43:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Bucket List - 06Cassini Takes Close View of Saturn's Rings in "Grazing" Phase - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:43:02] <exec> 08└─Well, the end of mission plan was chosen to avoid what they feel is a bigger risk: contaminating Titan, Enceladus, etc. with foreign microbes.
[19:43:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:43:17] <exec> 08└─To shamelessly plagiarize a superior wit on some other forum... the decline of Google: 2004: Don't Be Evil. 2010: Evil is subjective and hard to define. 2013: We make military robots now.
[19:43:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:43:20] <exec> 08└─Chromium doesn't include those plugins, a UI to disable what isn't there in the first place is of questionable use. (Your distro may patch them in, like Gentoo does if you set certain non-default USE flags, but then it should be on them to maintain a patch to bring about:plugins back)
[19:43:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03charon [5660] (Score:1) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:43:34] <exec> 08└─I had a similar problem with PaleMoon. My bank's website would not recognize it as a compatible browser for a long time. A recent update (27 something) fixed that and now it's my primary browser.
[19:43:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:43:40] <exec> 08└─Agreed. I was using palemoon for a while, but it was using a lot of ram, so I switched to Seamonkey, it's faster, more stable, and has more features. I tried using several of the command line driven browsers, but I didn't get into any of them.
[19:43:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Pale Moon - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:43:43] <exec> 08└─See, I found it couldn't use my most important add-ons, the high-end ad blockers, which basically made me drop it.
[19:43:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score:2) 02Re:confused - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:43:49] <exec> 08└─Latest example is Debian, which has a fork with a strong probability of being another example of possibility 4.
[19:44:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Poor and dumb - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 434 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:44:38] <exec> 08└─There is a serious of PBS documentary called Religion in America if I am not mistaken. It is very informative and you should investigate. One of the things that I always remember from it is that the Catholic church was asking for the separation of church and state due to some state's schools being r...
[19:44:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:Poor and dumb - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 872 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:44:39] <exec> 08└─The sibling poster is correct, many American colonies were about being able to practice their religion. One of the motivations for the Revolution was the Royal Proclamation of 1763 (made after Canada (Quebec) was made part of the British Empire), which included allowing Catholics to hold office and...
[19:44:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Poor and dumb - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:44:42] <exec> 08└─Well, after learning from those mistakes, people are now hysterically afraid the Muslim Terrorists are hidden under their beds. Buddhist Chinese have reserved the next turn. They benefit from the experience of actually making US beds.
[19:44:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Devils advocate - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 565 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:44:53] <exec> 08└─While I agree with your idea, I need to nitpick: > This is the root of Islamic culture: Turn religion into the political structure. People will do crazy things at your command, > because they are also doing those things for their religion. I'm expecting that a few hundred years' worth of God-Anointe...
[19:45:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Devils advocate - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:01] <exec> 08└─But maybe if they understood evolution, they'd understand why abuse of antibiotics, or stopping to take antibiotics as soon as the symptoms are gone, is an extremely bad idea.
[19:45:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Devils advocate - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:04] <exec> 08└─How well did Einstein do in school?
[19:45:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Devils advocate - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:06] <exec> 08└─What makes evolution different is that real scientific knowledge is being replaced with falsehoods.
[19:45:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Devils advocate - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:09] <exec> 08└─> I'm just saying, you got X hours to fill teenage brains full of mush, you might feel holier than thou if you push evolution but frankly the kids are better off knowing something else. Monsanto, Amgen and med schools do need people who understand how organisms change when you tinker with their envi...
[19:45:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I'm in favor of both sides being taught - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 621 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:24] <exec> 08└─While I'm Christian by faith I do not believe that only one side should be taught and am against it. I think there are interesting arguments to be made on all sides of the debate and I think students should get some exposure to them. I'm not threatened by anything that is taught because I have the h...
[19:45:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'm in favor of both sides being taught - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 423 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:25] <exec> 08└─I would agree to teaching your side of things if there was scientific evidence (like for real not pesudo science that jumps to conclusions) that show it might be a reasonable possibility. Due to the fact that religion is carefully designed so it is not falsifiable I strenuously object to it being ta...
[19:45:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'm in favor of both sides being taught - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:28] <exec> 08└─Science is the study of reality. Metaphysical phenomenon are outside the realm of science and have no place in a science classroom. Any "side of an issue" that does a poor job of explaining observable facts or fails to meet the basic requirements of a hypothesis or theory does not deserve to take ti...
[19:46:52] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03stormwyrm [717] 02Re:Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 262 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:46:53] <exec> 08└─See The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark [wikipedia.org] by Carl Sagan (1995). ISBN 0-345-40946-9. An excellent book and required reading for everyone. This is the Baloney Detection Kit [fu-berlin.de], which appears as Chapter 12 of the book.
[19:46:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:46:55] <exec> 08└─Knowledge is power. France is bacon.
[19:46:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Trust is not ideal - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 1509 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:47:00] <exec> 08└─No, those aren't reporters. Reporters are the people who go on scene and report...and while to call them "professional liars" may be overstating the case, it's not doing it by much. In every case I've witnessed they carefully collect only the "interesting" angles on the story. So that's the first le...
[19:47:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Trust is not ideal - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:47:02] <exec> 08└─So... "fake news" suggests that there exists somewhere any other kind of news. There is. Even Fox does basic fact checking. Definition of fake : counterfeit, sham As in, it's meant to look like news but its completely factually wrong and the author knows it.
[19:47:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Bekenstein-Hawking Black Hole Entropy - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:00] <exec> 08└─Does this fantasy of mine make any sense? No, but the reality of the situation doesn't either so we're good.
[19:48:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Contempt of court... - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:48] <exec> 08└─Besides denial of entry is a long way from gas-chambers and concentrations camps.
[19:50:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Police have not released names - 06Quebec City Mosque Terrorism Attack - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:50:55] <exec> 08└─Know what is more sicking than the killings? One group hoping Muslims did it. The other group hoping a white guy did it. Yeah, it's bad from random blowhards on the internet. It is many orders of magnitude worse when the President of the US is hoping the Muslims did it so bad he's willing to lie...
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[20:42:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Tribe size - 06Snooze Patterns Vary Across Cultures, Opening Eyes to Evolution of Sleep - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:42:28] <exec> 08└─I see they even correlated it to moon phase; makes sense for rural living. I wonder how it correlates to tribe size. If at all, of course.
[20:42:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Middle Sleep - 06Snooze Patterns Vary Across Cultures, Opening Eyes to Evolution of Sleep - 1056 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:42:29] <exec> 08└─Hey, maybe if this research is well enough recieved our doctors will stop prescribing medication for people with polyphasic sleep! [wikipedia.org] The historical record is full of references [bbc.com] to a sleep-wake-sleep pattern, which is assumed to be common knowledge when referenced (first sleep...
[20:42:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Cancel - 06Ringing in 2017 With Updates to Our Google Voice Apps - 1144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:42:42] <exec> 08└─Yeah I think kids are the wedge for that technology that grannie loves seeing the grandkids and give the kids 20 years of video calling and in a couple decades "everyone loves video, everyone has always loved video". Oh and in a peak of ridiculousness my son and his friends video game "together-ish"...
[20:42:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cancel - 06Ringing in 2017 With Updates to Our Google Voice Apps - 791 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:42:44] <exec> 08└─I don't have a cell phone and a couple of times a year it's convenent to send/receive a few text messages (assuming these are SMS?) While I'm probably doing this the hard way, for the little that I need it Google Voice is acceptable. I've used it (in Firefox) for many years and the texts are general...
[20:42:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:VoIP Block - 06Ringing in 2017 With Updates to Our Google Voice Apps - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:42:50] <exec> 08└─You can also text via email, if you have it set up. The limit is that is has to be in reply to another message. Therefore, I keep an email folder full of received text messages, so that way I can just reply from there.
[20:42:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:VoIP Block - 06Ringing in 2017 With Updates to Our Google Voice Apps - 472 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:42:53] <exec> 08└─That's what I do exclusively. If I absolutely must, I could use txt messaging on a burner phone and never leave the original purchase location by more than a mile or so. Watch for video surveillance and whatnot, finish what you need out of the phone, and then ditch it to a homeless person. Which is...
[20:42:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:VoIP Block - 06Ringing in 2017 With Updates to Our Google Voice Apps - 556 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:42:55] <exec> 08└─It's not just Google voice being prevented by Telegram. Microsoft's Azure prevents VoIP numbers from being used to create accounts. I had to fire off a letter to Microsoft legal, and berate several staff members over a week before they pulled some sort of magic and allowed me to create an account. J...
[20:44:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Non story? - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 507 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:44:02] <exec> 08└─Other things that are going away: - Personal computers - computers without additional control software - consoles without DRM - offline videogames - videogames whose server you can easily host - internet based on open protocols - stable APIs as a design goal - familiar UI as a design goal “Enter t...
[20:45:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Devils advocate - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 1027 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:03] <exec> 08└─That's a pretty good rebuttal. No sarcasm. "Don't micromanage" is almost always very good advice. The only devils advocate counter-rebuttal I can provide is in a highly religious culture, no micromanaging means their equivalent of devout rural Mississippi kids are going to skip the evolution unit an...
[20:45:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Trump reopens border to brothers in Creationism - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 622 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:08] <exec> 08└─Wonder how well Islamic Creationists get along with Christian Creationists? Would a "good" Christian rather be in the same room with someone who follows Jesus and accepts Darwin, or someone who follows Muhammed and denies Darwin? Something to realize is this is never about Evolution per se. It's abo...
[20:45:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fake News - 06Mars, Venus, Moon Conjuction on Tuesday - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:42] <exec> 08└─If you read more carefully, you will see isostatic added a fourth factor of "phase" that can dominate the apparent relative brightness of Venus/Mars. He is not supporting the misleading claims of CBC that Venus is brighter because it is "closer to the Earth".
[20:46:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:monkeys too - 06Hungry Penguins Help Keep Car Code Safe - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:07] <exec> 08└─A monkey that quickly loses interest surely has zero probability of typing the works of Shakespeare.
[20:46:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:monkeys too - 06Hungry Penguins Help Keep Car Code Safe - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:09] <exec> 08└─If you have a monkey with an infinite life, the probability that he will get back to typing is not zero.
[20:47:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03donkeyhotay [2540] (Score:2) 02Max Headroom - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:20] <exec> 08└─I recall an episode of "Max Headroom" where video had been expertly faked creating a crisis. And now, we're "15 minutes into the future." Ah well. I already don't trust most of what I see or hear. I guess we just need to get everyone else on the bandwagon.
[20:48:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Future flat earthers? - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:48:24] <exec> 08└─Is this what the flat earthers of the future will be trying to prove?
[20:48:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Contempt of court... - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:48:49] <exec> 08└─Are you volunteering to let them crash on your couch? Put up or shut up.
[20:48:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02Re:Contempt of court... - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 617 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:48:56] <exec> 08└─No, because the customs agents complied with the law, contrary to what the lying media reports. The same way that the media depicts this as a "Muslim Ban" despite the fact Muslims are still able to enter the United States through over a hundred different countries on Earth, this executive action was...
[20:49:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:world class critical thinking skills - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:49:34] <exec> 08└─Four out of how many?
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[21:42:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02So... - 06Physicists Patent Detonation Technique to Mass-Produce Graphene - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:42:23] <exec> 08└─That black ash lining my car's pistons is precious graphene, not a giant pain in the ass that gradually ruins the oil?
[21:42:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Nothing like diamond hemorrhoids... - 06Physicists Patent Detonation Technique to Mass-Produce Graphene - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:42:25] <exec> 08└─Well, your PITA is still there, and still ruining oil, but is now suddenly valuable? ;-)
[21:42:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score:2) 02Re:So... - 06Physicists Patent Detonation Technique to Mass-Produce Graphene - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:42:27] <exec> 08└─Therefore, you are going to be sued to pay a patent license fee. Collecting graphene from your car is patent infringement, regardless that the motors have been generating that byproduct for more than 100 years. Soon there will be a patent license fee per kilometer (or mile) for your illegal graphene...
[21:42:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:So... - 06Physicists Patent Detonation Technique to Mass-Produce Graphene - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:42:29] <exec> 08└─Clearly anyone with bunged up cylinders, spark plugs and pistons can claim prior art.
[21:42:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Sources of differences - 06Snooze Patterns Vary Across Cultures, Opening Eyes to Evolution of Sleep - 822 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:42:40] <exec> 08└─(Mainly posting to show appreciation to the poster for finding this interesting article. As much fun as the politics articles are, this kind of basic science article is the types of gems which appear too infrequently... and get few replies because the main comment is "huh, that's interesting.") I wo...
[21:42:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sources of differences - 06Snooze Patterns Vary Across Cultures, Opening Eyes to Evolution of Sleep - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:42:43] <exec> 08└─> hunter-gathering Hunting can be pretty good at night if the moon is right.
[21:43:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:VoIP Block - 06Ringing in 2017 With Updates to Our Google Voice Apps - 2074 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:43:02] <exec> 08└─Try again, because SMS messaging works better than that. I dunno about doing it over VoIP, because to my knowledge, it isn't done that way. I realize that Asterisk does have messaging capabilities, but that isn't exactly SMS, and doesn't exactly have full support in the various Endpoints and VoIP ap...
[21:43:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:43:31] <exec> 08└─Well, as fast as high speed trading, but closer to a high speed fucking. Imagine a dry, gritty jackhammer approaching your rectum...
[21:43:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:43:49] <exec> 08└─I do not understand your arrggh!. Are you annoyed everyone is ignoring Vivaldi? Are you telling me it's terrible? Are you you complaining because it is proprietary? Is it even proprietary? Is it too heavy to run in a mere two gigabytes of RAM? Please explain. -- hendrik
[21:44:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score:2) 02Re:Poor and dumb - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:44:52] <exec> 08└─What part of "early colonists" didn't you understand?
[21:44:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Poor and dumb - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:44:58] <exec> 08└─“When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing can stand in their way. Their movements become headlong - faster and faster and faster. They put aside all thoughts of obstacles and forget the precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too l...
[21:45:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score:2) 02Re:Devils advocate - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:45:18] <exec> 08└─You seem confused between what is basic science (evolution) and what is more the realm of specific vocational knowledge (environmental cleanup). We should ensure that children get a grounding in basic sciences. Obviously there is not time to teach every area of vocational knowledge.
[21:45:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:Devils advocate - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:45:22] <exec> 08└─Scientific study of the environment and its future (as opposed to radical leftist propaganda) is more important than evolution.
[21:45:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:As above - 06Mars, Venus, Moon Conjuction on Tuesday - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:45:59] <exec> 08└─Not if you have a mirror handy. Have a mirror? Then you too, can goatse yourself! * OMG! Look at the size of those bloody piles! Mount Doom, I tell you.*
[21:46:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:As above - 06Mars, Venus, Moon Conjuction on Tuesday - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:46:00] <exec> 08└─> Venus is the brightest thing shining in the sky. Apart from the sun, you insensitive clod.
[21:46:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:monkeys too - 06Hungry Penguins Help Keep Car Code Safe - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:46:25] <exec> 08└─You can't assume that. I'm still alive, but I have yet to take a botany course or show any signs of interest in botany. Even if I lived forever, I'd probably still not take any botany courses. Just because it's infinity doesn't mean you can just assume that a non-zero probability will be large enoug...
[21:46:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:monkeys too - 06Hungry Penguins Help Keep Car Code Safe - 589 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:46:27] <exec> 08└─In a sense, you can. The math sense. If the probability of anything doesn't decrease faster than the inverse of time, then mathematically, it will happen at some point over an infinite duration. You might realize, after spending 20000000 years watching porn, playing video games and reading Confucius...
[21:46:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:monkeys too - 06Hungry Penguins Help Keep Car Code Safe - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:46:29] <exec> 08└─It's infinitely many monkeys, but not monkeys with infinite lifetime. Although infinite life time won't help either if the typewriter rusts away before the monkey gets interested again.
[21:46:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:monkeys too - 06Hungry Penguins Help Keep Car Code Safe - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:46:31] <exec> 08└─The beauty of infinity is that it doesn't actually matter what the probabilities are, as long as they're not zero.
[21:46:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:monkeys too - 06Hungry Penguins Help Keep Car Code Safe - 969 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:46:33] <exec> 08└─That project is as useless and as deceptive as the "___ passes the Turing Test" headlines we occasionally hear. In my mind, the relevant statement is, "If the nine-letter sequence appears anywhere in one of Shakespeare's writings, it is matched against the relevant passage in a copy of the Bard's co...
[21:46:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Empty article. - 06Hungry Penguins Help Keep Car Code Safe - 539 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:46:37] <exec> 08└─The real question here is why this is better than the Monte Carlo algorithm that's typically used for testing plane software. You can't necessarily foresee and test all possibile conditions, but if you test enough combinations of conditions you can be sure that the car is safe to whatever level of s...
[21:47:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03hellcat [2832] (Score:2) 02Thanks for this - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 664 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:47:24] <exec> 08└─Your references are excellent. Thank you. Even Carl is a bit guilty. It took more than a little digging to get close to the reference he used for Francis Bacon's work to find the correct passage (#49). I didn't find the exact translation, however, and so Carl becomes complicit in the tendency toward...
[21:48:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03fubari [4551] (Score:2) 02Trump Stamp? Re:It may turn out we are... - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:48:39] <exec> 08└─...nothing but a porn tattoo on some ogre's ass. Maybe it's recursive such that the ogre lives on Earth. (Not the orange guy with jutting hair and casinos.)
[21:49:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] 02Re:Contempt of court... - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 70 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:49:16] <exec> 08└─And the Neuremburg Trials were full of people "just following orders".
[21:49:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Contempt of court... - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:49:23] <exec> 08└─If you violate the law, you violate the law. If you ask someone to violate the law, you also violate the law. Why is that complicated?
[21:49:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Contempt of court... - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:49:29] <exec> 08└─Wait, what? That is exactly why they are there!
[21:49:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Contempt of court... - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:49:32] <exec> 08└─The judicial stay ordered the immediate release of specific individuals, and some border agents allegedly defied the order by instead choosing to deport those they were instructed to release. That's not obeying orders.
[21:50:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Switching sides in this argument. - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:50:24] <exec> 08└─But for you there are no sides, there is only "Runaway". You are like Trump in that regard, an ego so big and so unselfconscious that there is no room for anything else, let alone "sides".
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[22:42:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nothing like diamond hemorrhoids... - 06Physicists Patent Detonation Technique to Mass-Produce Graphene - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:42:31] <exec> 08└─I'm gonna go with "worthless" instead, with the gas and oil byproducts baked into any graphene at rather high temperatures repeatedly. I know I know, boo hisss get off our karma train!
[22:42:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:So... - 06Physicists Patent Detonation Technique to Mass-Produce Graphene - 835 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:42:34] <exec> 08└─I read the patent because it was interesting, toward the end there's some theoretical verbiage on why it works and detonation/ping would rapidly destroy an engine so no its not really "IC engine as prior art". There's a whole beefy wikipedia article on graphene production. Its one of those things th...
[22:42:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03VanderDecken [5216] (Score:2) 02Another positive property ... - 06Physicists Patent Detonation Technique to Mass-Produce Graphene - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:42:36] <exec> 08└─... is the entertainment value.
[22:42:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03islisis [2901] (Score:1) 02too bad - 06Physicists Patent Detonation Technique to Mass-Produce Graphene - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:42:38] <exec> 08└─they didn't invent a patent detonation techique instead and win the nobel prize
[22:42:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Someone fails science forever - 06Physicists Patent Detonation Technique to Mass-Produce Graphene - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:42:41] <exec> 08└─What might be the best property of all is that the energy required to make a gram of graphene through our process is much less than other processes because all it takes is a single spark."
[22:42:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Tribe size - 06Snooze Patterns Vary Across Cultures, Opening Eyes to Evolution of Sleep - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:42:51] <exec> 08└─I wonder how it correlates to tribe size. If at all, of course.
[22:42:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Middle Sleep - 06Snooze Patterns Vary Across Cultures, Opening Eyes to Evolution of Sleep - 474 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:42:54] <exec> 08└─I was gonna comment about a natural habit to consider that things beyond our personal experience are odd and probably wrong, but there's been enough politics around here... > "Space Exploration is not endless circles in low earth orbit." -Buzz Aldrin Your sig bothers me every time, since he knew pre...
[22:42:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:Middle Sleep - 06Snooze Patterns Vary Across Cultures, Opening Eyes to Evolution of Sleep - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:42:56] <exec> 08└─I was gonna comment about a natural habit to consider that things beyond our personal experience are odd and probably wrong, but there's been enough politics around here...
[22:42:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sources of differences - 06Snooze Patterns Vary Across Cultures, Opening Eyes to Evolution of Sleep - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:43:00] <exec> 08└─a society with electricity and cheap lighting (you can do more stuff at night)
[22:43:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03charon [5660] (Score:1) 02Re:Sources of differences - 06Snooze Patterns Vary Across Cultures, Opening Eyes to Evolution of Sleep - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:43:02] <exec> 08└─Thank you. I like these kind of stories too, and submit them whenever I can find them.
[22:43:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02co-evolved species - 06Snooze Patterns Vary Across Cultures, Opening Eyes to Evolution of Sleep - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:43:05] <exec> 08└─An interesting follow up to this study would be to compare the sleep patterns of domestic dogs (since they have been pretty much compelled / bred over the centuries to adopt our sleep patterns ) to their wild ancestors / feral cousins. If there's a correlation with the human results, it might add we...
[22:43:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bradley13 [3053] 02Brave? - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 494 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:43:55] <exec> 08└─I'm currently giving Brave [brave.com] a try. It offers built-in blockers for ads, trackers and scripts, as well as an experimental fingerprinting-blocker. Personally, I don't think their idea a of user-driven payment model will ever work, but that's a separate issue. FWIW, a few things work differe...
[22:44:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:44:10] <exec> 08└─Please explain.
[22:44:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03number11 [1170] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 416 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:44:12] <exec> 08└─PaleMoon has worked just about everywhere for me. There are a few websites that don't like the user-agent string, but I use SecretAgent to lie about the user-agent anyhow. There remain a few websites that are problematic, but it's hard to tell if the fault lies with PaleMoon, SecretAgent, NoScript,...
[22:44:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 748 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:44:19] <exec> 08└─While I agree that SM is one of the best and am posting from it. Its days are numbered. There's a shortage of developers, as happens with volunteer driven projects, and it is based on Gecko. Besides the horribleness of keeping up with all the changes that Mozilla does lately, and the fact that Mozil...
[22:44:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:44:23] <exec> 08└─Which distro? I use Palemoon on Ubuntu and antiX
[22:45:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Devils advocate - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 1350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:45:43] <exec> 08└─As the devils advocate for this topic I salute you, no sarcasm thats currently the strongest rebuttal I've seen all day. So far. Not bad. It needs more justification than "I sez so." Personally I'm not even claiming you're wrong, although as the Devils Advocate I officially have to declare no presen...
[22:45:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Devils advocate - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:45:49] <exec> 08└─We can get both
[22:46:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:monkeys too - 06Hungry Penguins Help Keep Car Code Safe - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:54] <exec> 08└─Isn't an infinite number of monkeys, and their equally infinite amount of typewriters, equivalent to a single eternal monkey with an infinitely-working typewriter, for the purpose of assessing the probability of something being typed? It's a good thing that the original posting was so uninformative,...
[22:49:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Living in the Matrix" - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 484 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:49:12] <exec> 08└─Well, then i imagine it means that the Demiurge, Pleroma, Ashur, whatever.. is... more real then we are, and there are not going to be any privilege escalation or jailbreak type of exploits... Because it/they would be capable of inifinitely many FLOPS per unit of whatever passes for time wherever th...
[22:49:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not when... - 06DHS Ignores Judicial Ruling, Continues Trump's Ban - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:49:31] <exec> 08└─Wouldn't be the first time that a sitting president has commuted the sentence of an underling. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] Would probably be the first time of doing it openly though.
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[23:42:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Oh there's a surprise - 06Walmart Kills Amazon Prime-like Service, Expands Free Shipping - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:42:23] <exec> 08└─Wal-Mart customers don't use a paid premium service, what a surprise.
[23:42:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02soyverted service - 06Walmart Kills Amazon Prime-like Service, Expands Free Shipping - 1647 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:42:24] <exec> 08└─Selection seems sparse, items are sometimes sold in huge bulk when you don't want that, and the website kinda sucks. $2/lb garbanzos [walmart.com] ain't gonna cut it. Brown rice [walmart.com] seems cheap enough though. The best ramen flavors [walmart.com] are unavailable. Did a search for tomato [wa...
[23:42:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:So... - 06Physicists Patent Detonation Technique to Mass-Produce Graphene - 468 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:42:39] <exec> 08└─TIL: > Detonation typically involves a supersonic exothermic front that accelerates through a medium that eventually drives a shock front propagating directly in front of it. > Deflagration is typically described as subsonic combustion propagating through heat transfer. But from the patent descripti...
[23:42:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Someone fails science forever - 06Physicists Patent Detonation Technique to Mass-Produce Graphene - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:42:44] <exec> 08└─You are technically correct (yes... yes...), but clearly they were not referring the entire environment when making that statement. I had taken it to be, "other processes are energy intensive because they need to do ____ to the ingredients, whereas this process only requires a bit of electricity and...
[23:42:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Re:Someone fails science forever - 06Physicists Patent Detonation Technique to Mass-Produce Graphene - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:42:46] <exec> 08└─other processes are energy intensive because they need to do ____ to the ingredients
[23:42:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03charon [5660] (Score:1) 02Re:Middle Sleep - 06Snooze Patterns Vary Across Cultures, Opening Eyes to Evolution of Sleep - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:42:59] <exec> 08└─I usually sleep through the night, but occasionally I'll fall into bed after work, wake up after a few hours and can't sleep again for another few hours. So I get up and do stuff. In effect it time shifts my post work evening. Seems very much like what is meant by the first sleep/second sleep break...
[23:44:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:44:10] <exec> 08└─I decline.
[23:44:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fuck it... - 06Google Removes Plugin Controls From Chrome - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:44:14] <exec> 08└─The fault generally lies with the third party script libs a lot of sites embed, they have faulty UA sniffing in them to determine script capabilities instead of querying if something is supported directly which will break them for any UA they fail to recognize.
[23:45:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Poor and dumb - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:19] <exec> 08└─Also it was one dude's opinion which was wildly disagreed with at the time, used rhetorically in a treaty with Islamic arabs who were operating under this quote from wikipedia: It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right...
[23:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Poor and dumb - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:20] <exec> 08└─Wait a sec - you introduce an irrelevancy that does not contradict your parent poster's point, and then you complain when he tries to bring it back to one of the things he was talking about? If you want a thread about the early colonists, start your own.
[23:45:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Devils advocate - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:40] <exec> 08└─Subject drift. We're talking past each other. You're talking about a biology class curriculum on the deep or shallow end and I'm replying to OP claiming it would be a teachable moment with respect to rational decision making on the deep or shallow end. Because all debates about evolution end in a ra...
[23:45:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Devils advocate - 06Turkish Government to Remove Evolution From High School Curriculum - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:44] <exec> 08└─As a fellow Demon yourself, Maxwells in particular, you can see how as a Devil's Advocate I am obligated to point out that evolution isn't useless, just less useful than the proposed replacement in the curriculum.
[23:46:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrpg [5708] (Score:2) 02visible - 06Mars, Venus, Moon Conjuction on Tuesday - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:30] <exec> 08└─I see it, looks nice :-)
[23:47:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:2) 02Adam Selene - 06Fake News is About to Get Even Easier Than You Ever Dreamed - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:47:52] <exec> 08└─S1m0ne [imdb.com], is that you?
[23:49:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Physics vs Economics - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:49:14] <exec> 08└─And they wonder why there are so many grad students/phds with no employment prospect.
[23:49:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Differing predictions - 06Substantial Evidence of Holographic Universe - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:49:17] <exec> 08└─was working on a great SN automobile analogy . . . But its getting to be an old story and the car analogy is getting pretty stretched....
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