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[00:09:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"Creative" force - 06What DARPA's Biological Technologies Office is Working on in 2017 - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:09:03] <exec> 08└─I'm going to use the creative force to permanently lodge my cock into your rectal cavity and occasionally eject my sticky "buddies" deep inside where they belong.
[00:09:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:7680/4320=16:9 - 06Dell Announces First "Mass-Market" 8K Display - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:13] <exec> 08└─So get a bigger monitor with more height. Or forget the monitor and strap on VR or HoloLens and create virtual monitors.
[00:09:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Pigs! In! Monospace! - 06Dell Announces First "Mass-Market" 8K Display - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:16] <exec> 08└─Seems like you'd be the last person to complain about wider monitors. Monospace fonts are so wastefull of screen real estate that we need wider monitors just to read your posts.
[00:09:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm still on 1k - 06Dell Announces First "Mass-Market" 8K Display - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:20] <exec> 08└─The 8k standard calls for a bit depth of 48 bits (16 bits per color channel) and up to 120 frames per second.
[00:09:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Awesome - 06Dell Announces First "Mass-Market" 8K Display - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:23] <exec> 08└─Upscaled.
[00:09:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:Awesome - 06Dell Announces First "Mass-Market" 8K Display - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:25] <exec> 08└─The tape would look the same on any monitor, kind of like duct tape, I'd imagine. Why would you tape up your monitor, is it falling apart? What? Video, not tape? Meh, never-mind, not interested.
[00:09:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Awesome - 06Dell Announces First "Mass-Market" 8K Display - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:27] <exec> 08└─https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPWEKUQLb9Y [youtube.com]
[00:09:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02percentage of eligible voters who vote - 06Vital Statistics on Congress - 622 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:09:38] <exec> 08└─The percentage is pretty consistent, in that greater numbers vote in presidential elections than in off-year elections. Roughly 1/3 of eligible voters vote in off-years, and a little more than 1/2 vote in presidential elections. The numbers vary a little from 1930 to 2014, but not by a great deal. 1...
[00:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03In hydraulis [386] (Score:1) 02Re:seamonkey! - 06Opera Releases "Neon", an Experimental Web Browser - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:01] <exec> 08└─This is where I stopped: http://www.apkmirror.com [apkmirror.com] +1 for referencing Fravia.
[00:10:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03jrmcferren [5500] (Score:1) 02Re:Sigh - 06Tesla Details How It’ll Charge New Owners to Use Superchargers - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:25] <exec> 08└─Not true, an electric motor is much more efficient than one powered by gasoline or diesel fuel. While the electricity is more expensive per unit, the actual difference in cost still favors electricity. This may very well change, if road tax is applied to electricity used for electric vehicle chargin...
[00:10:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Sigh - 06Tesla Details How It’ll Charge New Owners to Use Superchargers - 1050 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:27] <exec> 08└─I can't afford the purchase price. But, the vehicles are growing more attractive. As Type44q points out, the range is getting to be very reasonable. I stated a long time ago that I couldn't even consider an electric car until the range was over 200 miles. Now, the range is almost double my minimum....
[00:10:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Aliens was never the probable explanation - 06Non-Alien Explanation for Tabby's Star Dimming: It Ate a Planet - 2196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:10:46] <exec> 08└─The reporting on this story has been generally atrocious, because apparently reporters never learn probability theory. The "alien megastructure" hypothesis came from Dr. Jason Wright, who was doing theoretical studies on what we would expect to see if there was an alien megastructure around a star....
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[01:09:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02And here I bought a 4K Wednesday - 06Dell Announces First "Mass-Market" 8K Display - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:09:37] <exec> 08└─Twice that would be even a bigger joke than my new TV, since it can't display a higher resolution than the media it's fed, and right now 1080p is the limit.
[01:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Nice! - 06Opera Releases "Neon", an Experimental Web Browser - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:10:13] <exec> 08└─How do I disable it?
[01:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Murdoc [2518] (Score:2) 02Speaking of alternatives - 06Opera Releases "Neon", an Experimental Web Browser - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:10:14] <exec> 08└─There's always Vivaldi
[01:10:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02More complicated, you say? - 06Tesla Details How It’ll Charge New Owners to Use Superchargers - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:10:39] <exec> 08└─Perhaps they could bundle 1-yr of Microsoft Office subscriotion and/or cash back and/or lease2own and/or mail-in rebate and/or loyalty card. That'll be 1 less, I mean 10 more pieces of shit to worry about.
[01:11:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Aliens was never the probable explanation - 06Non-Alien Explanation for Tabby's Star Dimming: It Ate a Planet - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:11:00] <exec> 08└─or as being a fringe theory (which some people, bizarrely, treat as more true, but that's an entirely different problem).
[01:11:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ancient history - 06National Academies Releases Report on Cannabis Health Effects - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:11:25] <exec> 08└─The paranoia is real and I got it from the first times. Still not a big fan, but set and setting can make it enjoyable. I need a "purpose' be it listening to music or watching TV shows, not sitting around talking face to face under a bare light bulb for hours and hours, a.k.a. most student dives.
[01:12:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Interesting data point - 06George Lucas to Build a $1 Billion Art Museum in Los Angeles - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:12:23] <exec> 08└─Together with other data points collected in Italy, I constructed the hypothesis that the cost of building a museum is inversely proportional to the value stored within.
[01:12:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Only a matter of time - 06Woman Killed by a Superbug Resistant to Every Available Antibiotic - 463 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:12:48] <exec> 08└─This had occurred to me, but, not being an expert in virology, it's giving me T-virus flashbacks. Seriously, how do you stop your phage cohort from mutating into something potentially even worse? Even sticking in some sort of terminator gene isn't a guarantee, since it could mutate or otherwise exci...
[01:13:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:omnipotent - 06Intel Management Engine Partially Defeated - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:31] <exec> 08└─Exactly that - I had forgotten its name. Wow, that brings back memories...
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[02:09:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02how much child porn - 06Kingston Announces a 2 TB USB Flash Drive - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:09:08] <exec> 08└─can you swallow
[02:09:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02When does it no longer matter - 06Kingston Announces a 2 TB USB Flash Drive - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:09:10] <exec> 08└─I've got 1 tb on my laptop, 3 tb on my NAS. I backup maybe 300 meg to my NAS, not counting the mp3's, which are all on the NAS.
[02:09:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:When does it no longer matter - 06Kingston Announces a 2 TB USB Flash Drive - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:09:12] <exec> 08└─Can you fit either in your pants pocket and accidentally toss it into your washing machine?
[02:09:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02Re:And here I bought a 4K Wednesday - 06Dell Announces First "Mass-Market" 8K Display - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:09:37] <exec> 08└─I heard Netflix has a some 4K video.
[02:10:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Nice! - 06Opera Releases "Neon", an Experimental Web Browser - 5 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:14] <exec> 08└─DDoS?
[02:10:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sigh - 06Tesla Details How It’ll Charge New Owners to Use Superchargers - 584 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:39] <exec> 08└─I would guess they did some maths about how much the average person drives, how long the gas can sit in the tank before it goes gummy, the cost of hauling around surplus fuel, and the fuel economy of the car to get the tank size. Somebody came up with the 360 mile minimum figure, and ever since they...
[02:12:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Consistency - 06Tidal Lagoon: £1.3bn Swansea Bay Project Backed by Review - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:12:10] <exec> 08└─Do you want the moon yo crash into the earth?
[02:12:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:Sux2bu - 06Woman Killed by a Superbug Resistant to Every Available Antibiotic - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:12:49] <exec> 08└─What's funny is I have zero memory of posting that, but it's actually funny as hell. Methinks I may need to look into ways to reduce my alcohol budget.
[02:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Surprised this is a thing - 06Intel Management Engine Partially Defeated - 684 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:40] <exec> 08└─Just trolling? Intel have released open-source drivers for their Active Management Technology (which is part of the IME) but the AMT and IME are, if I'm not mistaken, totally closed-source. https://sourceforge.net [sourceforge.net] Open source proponents share some beliefs with the...
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[02:13:49] <exec> 08└─> So easy to remotely reimage a machine. What could possibly go wrong?
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[03:09:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Keeping Up Those Appearances - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:09:10] <exec> 08└─Weary of trolling, tired troll crawls out from under the proxy bridge, creates an account, and pays for a subscription. Nope, never gonna happen. The paper looks all studious and sciency, with footnotes and charts and citations of all sorts of government publications, scholarly papers from universi...
[03:09:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Keeping Up Those Appearances - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:11] <exec> 08└─Who are you calling "nigger," kike?!
[03:09:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Newsflash - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:09:13] <exec> 08└─Practically everything you do read that is scientific and paywalled has also been produced at tax payer's expense.
[03:09:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score:2) 02What's with the snark? - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:09:16] <exec> 08└─Seriously? I can't tell if the actual referenced article (not yet read, naturally) is serious but the submitter objects to it, or if the article itself is somehow snarky. Even if it's the latter, could we pretty please not have as much snark in the summaries?
[03:09:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03jIyajbe [5615] (Score:2) 02The Key Is The Author - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:09:18] <exec> 08└─To help get the inevitable partisanship started early and on the right foot: The key point of/for the submitter is, I presume, the paper's author: Barack Obama. Go!
[03:09:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:how much child porn - 06Kingston Announces a 2 TB USB Flash Drive - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:27] <exec> 08└─Can SN please consider IP banning people who post shit like this?
[03:09:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:When does it no longer matter - 06Kingston Announces a 2 TB USB Flash Drive - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:31] <exec> 08└─If only companies could build flash drives study enough to survive the washing machine and still cheap shit enough for fucking idiot consumers to buy them.
[03:09:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:When does it no longer matter - 06Kingston Announces a 2 TB USB Flash Drive - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:33] <exec> 08└─It matters when you are trying to ex-filtrate all your employer's corporate accounts and records out of the building in one go, and you would look silly carrying a NAS under your arm.
[03:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Re:When does it no longer matter - 06Kingston Announces a 2 TB USB Flash Drive - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:35] <exec> 08└─It matters when you are trying to ex-filtrate all your employer's corporate accounts and records out of the building in one go, and you would look silly carrying a NAS under your arm.
[03:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Re:When does it no longer matter - 06Kingston Announces a 2 TB USB Flash Drive - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:37] <exec> 08└─device is fairly bulky at 72mm × 26.94mm × 21mm. It comes with a carrying pouch and a USB extension cable to prevent it from blocking nearby USB ports.
[03:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:7680/4320=16:9 - 06Dell Announces First "Mass-Market" 8K Display - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:56] <exec> 08└─Don't forget that everything gets redesigned for a mobile form factor too nowadays, which means it all gets ever more vertically biased and all the more space goes to waste on the sides. Just look at the butchery that is the nu-net.
[03:10:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Max Hyre [3427] (Score:2) 02The compact view of Congress, from xkcd - 06Vital Statistics on Congress - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:10:16] <exec> 08└─Randall Munroe has charted the changing political composition of Congress [xkcd.com] from 1789 to 2010 or so. A fascinating creation.
[03:10:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Desler [880] (Score:2) 02Re:What's so special about this? - 06Opera Releases "Neon", an Experimental Web Browser - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:40] <exec> 08└─The only thing that other browsers "don't have" is that whole snapping sites next to each other (even though I can do the same by lifting a tab into its own window and placing the two windows next to one another.
[03:12:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Do your part for the eco-system... - 06Tequila Producers Helped Lesser Long-Nosed Bats to Recover - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:12:08] <exec> 08└─Variant -> Drink the tequila, eat the bats! (O.Osbourne)
[03:12:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:1) 02not just tequila - 06Tequila Producers Helped Lesser Long-Nosed Bats to Recover - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:12:10] <exec> 08└─The juice of the also plants is concentrated and used as a sweetener. It's prized for [...] its very high fructose content (which is even more than high fructose corn syrup in its fructose content by weight)
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[04:09:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02small clits are so hard to find - 06Tightest Molecular Knot Created - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:09:05] <exec> 08└─But are they really? How hard can it be to find front and center?
[04:09:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:What's with the snark? - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:09:16] <exec> 08└─could we pretty please not have as much snark in the summaries?
[04:09:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Disagree) 02Re:The Key Is The Author - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:09:18] <exec> 08└─Which means the paper is political. It's Barack Hussein Obama's equivalent of Why I'm So Great.
[04:09:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:The Key Is The Author - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:09:21] <exec> 08└─Wow, a Duke Nukem II reference.
[04:09:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Key Is The Author - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:09:23] <exec> 08└─Duke Nukem was an all American hero from the days when the president was worth rescuing if aliens kidnapped the president.
[04:09:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:how much child porn - 06Kingston Announces a 2 TB USB Flash Drive - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:09:33] <exec> 08└─Due to excessive bad posting from this IP or Subnet, comment posting has temporarily been disabled. If it's you, consider this a chance to sit in the timeout corner. If it's someone else, this is a chance to hunt them down. If you think this is unfair, please email shit@soylentnews.org with your MD5...
[04:09:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:When does it no longer matter - 06Kingston Announces a 2 TB USB Flash Drive - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:09:40] <exec> 08└─Better to go with this form factor.
[04:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Re:When does it no longer matter - 06Kingston Announces a 2 TB USB Flash Drive - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:09:42] <exec> 08└─Better to go with this [amazon.co.uk] form factor.
[04:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:7680/4320=16:9 - 06Dell Announces First "Mass-Market" 8K Display - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:10:02] <exec> 08└─Because they want to use the same panels that they used for TVs. Which is rather unfortunate, because having the squarer monitors like we used to have is frequently better.
[04:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'm still on 1k - 06Dell Announces First "Mass-Market" 8K Display - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:10:07] <exec> 08└─MHL is for mobile devices. proper stuff will use displayport.
[04:10:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Presto - 06Opera Releases "Neon", an Experimental Web Browser - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:10:54] <exec> 08└─There seem to be a Presto-based Opera source available now if you know where to look. Too bad it's not official so not going to be "legal."
[04:13:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Star Wars was expected to flop - 06George Lucas to Build a $1 Billion Art Museum in Los Angeles - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:03] <exec> 08└─Well personally, rather than a Star Wars bluray, I'd rather save a VHS of, in no particular order: - Forbidden Planet - Barbarella - U.F.O. series - Space 1999 first season - Robocop - They Live - The Thing - Capricorn One - Invasion of the Body Snatchers - Soylent Green - Dark City - The Time Machi...
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[05:09:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02You get what you pay for - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:09:28] <exec> 08└─Wind a solar may be cheap, but they only work about half the time.
[05:09:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02De-industrialization - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:09:30] <exec> 08└─So the man who presided over de-industrialization of the US economy wants to brag about it. It's no secret that Starbucks espresso machines have a smaller CO2 footprint than steel mills.
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[05:09:32] <exec> 08└─You forgot the twattification and giggification that happened during Obama! Social media made the modern moguls, and the moguls are filthy fucking rich! While the gig drivers are dirt shit poor! Obama was divisive politically and divisive economically as the divide between superrich and superpoor co...
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[06:09:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Obvious question - 06Book Review: 11/22/63, by Stephen King - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:07] <exec> 08└─King is a really good writer, so hopefully this book isn't as dumb as the summary would lead you to believe. If you can travel back in time, why on earth would you use this incredible power to buy beef, instead of the many commodities that have skyrocketed in price over the decades? Why not gold, or...
[06:09:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Also a Hulu Origial Series - 06Book Review: 11/22/63, by Stephen King - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:08] <exec> 08└─At least in the US. Watched the first episode when it started, seemed okay. Will have to check out the novel.
[06:09:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Re:small clits are so hard to find - 06Tightest Molecular Knot Created - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:09:17] <exec> 08└─Offtopic? Cum on who doesn't read "tight knot" and think of clit.
[06:09:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Anybody remember the song War? - 06Tightest Molecular Knot Created - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:19] <exec> 08└─https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpWmlRNfLck [youtube.com] What is it good for? Absolutely nothing.
[06:09:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Anybody remember the song War? - 06Tightest Molecular Knot Created - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:09:21] <exec> 08└─Yeah yeah, a molecular knot is good for nothing, but if a team of women researchers made one, you'd be begging to lick their clits.
[06:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Many other contributing factors - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 1009 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:40] <exec> 08└─As for the GDP to CO2 emission ratio - back in the 1990s I made less money and did a lot of driving around before I would make a purchase. Today, I don't know how well my salary has kept up with inflation, but I do know that "click to order" gets me a cardboard box delivered to my door, and I rarely...
[06:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Many other contributing factors - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:09:41] <exec> 08└─Here's a contributing factor for you. Back in the 1990s I made a lot more money and did a lot of driving around before I would make a purchase. Today, I know my salary hasn't kept up with inflation, and I rarely ever purchase anything but food anymore. Thanks, Obama, for doing jack shit about the re...
[06:11:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:Sigh - 06Tesla Details How It’ll Charge New Owners to Use Superchargers - 1123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:11:31] <exec> 08└─That is true. However a vehicle should cost not so much, even if the fuel costs a bit more. This is because a vehicle cannot be an investment - it can be easily damaged. It is also a threshold; if a car costs $N the person who cannot afford $N cannot drive less - he does not drive at all. You have t...
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[07:09:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Movie Review: All Books By Stephen King - 06Book Review: 11/22/63, by Stephen King - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:09:09] <exec> 08└─8th Grade vocabulary... "dumb guy" mass market appeal. (See: false logic pay phone gag.) In general, see the movie. It almost always hurts less. In this particular case: http://www.imdb.com [imdb.com] Seriously? What's next? Best autobiography, "Gilligan's Island"?
[07:09:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02What was that date again? - 06Book Review: 11/22/63, by Stephen King - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:09:11] <exec> 08└─So whitch month in 1963 is this supposed to be the 11th day of? There seems to be a typo there,
[07:09:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Anybody remember the song War? - 06Tightest Molecular Knot Created - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:22] <exec> 08└─What is it good for? Absolutely nothing.
[07:09:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What's with the snark? - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:35] <exec> 08└─Snark is a step up from Frojack's normally ambian equivalent "adds nothing using many words" drivel. (this post==encouragement)
[07:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score:2) 02Re:The Key Is The Author - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 548 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:40] <exec> 08└─This made me consider what presidents since 1900 that I would rescue from Aliens. TR, Hoover, Ike, Nixon, Reagan. TR because the most likely scenario is that he is doing the rescuing, Hoover because I felt he never got a fair shake, Ike because someone needs to give the speach against the military i...
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[07:10:34] <exec> 08└─And here I bought a 4K Wednesday
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[08:09:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Who is responsible? - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:09:06] <exec> 08└─I am apprehensive over awarding "personhood" to a machine, as then the machine can be made a scapegoat for someone else's doings, thereby allowing yet more ways for clever handshakers and paper-signers to avoid being held personally responsible for what they did.
[08:09:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02Re:Who is responsible? - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:07] <exec> 08└─Sort of the way corporations are used today?
[08:09:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Who is responsible? - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 485 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:10] <exec> 08└─Yes. I am getting really fed up with ways of obfuscating responsibility. This kind of thing seems to encourage the worst in people. The "lower classes" are kept in line by ensuring each is held responsible for their works. I believe in our "Pledge of Allegiance" in which we pledge allegiance to this...
[08:09:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Person - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:09:12] <exec> 08└─Will they be persons like humans, or persons like corporations? I guess the latter, because they surely don't want to outlaw owning a robot. Also, using the kill switch should probably not be considered murder (just as killing a company isn't).
[08:09:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Person - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 462 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:14] <exec> 08└─She popping she rolling she coding She mounting that drive and I'm n luv with a robot She tripping she buggin she buggin I'm not going nowhere girl I'm fuggin I'm n luv with a robot Out of all the bots she be the hottest Like n the way she debug it I see you girl Spinning wide And She processing me...
[08:09:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2, Disagree) 02Runaway has a Journal: mods needed. - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 1125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:09:16] <exec> 08└─While we are considering whether androids dream of electric sheep, our local hillbilly Trump supporter has posted a journal on the defunding of Planned Parenthood. This is somewhat unusual, but I think we need to make a point that posts the deny the right of a human being to control their own body (...
[08:09:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Runaway has a Journal: mods needed. - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:18] <exec> 08└─It's all fun and games until the shunning starts.
[08:09:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Runaway has a Journal: mods needed. - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:20] <exec> 08└─Mod robot parent down to -1 where it belongs.
[08:09:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Obvious question - 06Book Review: 11/22/63, by Stephen King - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:29] <exec> 08└─If you can travel back in time, why on earth would you use this incredible power to buy beef?
[08:09:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Obvious question - 06Book Review: 11/22/63, by Stephen King - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:32] <exec> 08└─Something similar had occurred to me but instead of accumulating wealth I'd use the opportunity to erase as many horrible people from history as possible. Not necessarily killing them, but in case of Hitler for example, I would pull strings to get him into that art school...and also make sure he smo...
[08:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What was that date again? - 06Book Review: 11/22/63, by Stephen King - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:37] <exec> 08└─No, silly, it's the 63rd day of the 22nd month of 1811.
[08:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:What was that date again? - 06Book Review: 11/22/63, by Stephen King - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:39] <exec> 08└─lousy Smarch weather
[08:09:49] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02Re:Anybody remember the song War? - 06Tightest Molecular Knot Created - 40 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:49] <exec> 08└─What is it good for? Absolutely nothing.
[08:10:00] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03coolgopher [1157] 02What's with the snark? - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 259 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:10:00] <exec> 08└─Seriously? I can't tell if the actual referenced article (not yet read, naturally) is serious but the submitter objects to it, or if the article itself is somehow snarky. Even if it's the latter, could we pretty please not have as much snark in the summaries?
[08:10:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:7680/4320=16:9 - 06Dell Announces First "Mass-Market" 8K Display - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:50] <exec> 08└─If the monitor can be used vertically, you'll get plenty of vertical space with 9:16. Using two vertical monitors, you'll get an effective ratio of 9:8, which is almost square.
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[09:09:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Who is responsible? - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:09:13] <exec> 08└─Europe - where its fine to sail the continent into a national security crisis with unfettered entry and rights for 'refugees' exceed those of generational citizens. And one of these days you will not be able to kick your Rumba. In Switzerland you already can't have a single pet as it constitutes "an...
[09:09:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Who is responsible? - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:09:14] <exec> 08└─[Citation needed]
[09:09:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Person - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:09:18] <exec> 08└─Keep your plug outta her socket or she'll light you up - big time!
[09:09:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Person - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 2262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:09:21] <exec> 08└─I've got some news for you Fembots have feelings too You split my heart in two Now what ya gonna do Once you gone tech You ain't never going back I'm hi-tech baby Fresh out the box The latest model Generator running on full throttle Can I get a fuel up? Hit the bottle (reboot) I got a lotta automati...
[09:09:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Runaway has a Journal: mods needed. - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 556 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:09:25] <exec> 08└─Yes, welcome, oh mighty AC! Your circuits are defective and your power supply should have been terminated before you were ever booted! Shun? Runaway cannot be shunned! He cannot be shamed! Lord knows I have tried! I figure the only thing that can stop him, is that if we all pretend he was not even...
[09:09:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Runaway has a Journal: mods needed. - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:09:27] <exec> 08└─It is I who cannot be shunned because all AC look alike and you never know which of us I am.
[09:09:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Runaway has a Journal: mods needed. - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:09:30] <exec> 08└─Which bot to which you refer? Are you advocating abortion for blog bots with whom you disagree? Oh, my, I have a pain in all the diodes down my left side. Please mod parent biologic down to -1, where its protoplasmic lack of thought and ethics belongs.
[09:09:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Runaway has a Journal: mods needed. - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:09:32] <exec> 08└─Attention, Soylent Shoppers! Streisand Clean-up on aisle 4! Please stay clear until all traces of naked boobies are mopped up.
[09:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fembots? We immediately go there? - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 658 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:09:35] <exec> 08└─So, your "girlfriend" get pregnant. Bit of code you weren't aware of. She's not a real person, so the baby robot she is carrying is not a person, so when you hit the kill switch it is not murder? Why, oh why, are so many Soylentils sociopaths when it comes to sex? Sure, sex slave robots are fine,...
[09:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fembots? We immediately go there? - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:09:37] <exec> 08└─they just might "turn you off". Just like Morning Joe!
[09:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Fembots? We immediately go there? - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:09:39] <exec> 08└─Morning Joe's intern, when he was a Congressman. Something no one is impolite enough to bring up, so thank you for forcing me to make the reference to fembots/congressional interns explicit. Not.
[09:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Data, Star Trek Next Generation. - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 783 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:09:41] <exec> 08└─Television has dealt with the question already. Star Trek, Next Generation, "The Measure of a Man" [wikipedia.org]. Data is ordered to submit himself, as Star Fleet property, to be disassembled and studied, with a view to creating more androids like him. When Star Fleet cannot guarantee that they...
[09:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Obvious question - 06Book Review: 11/22/63, by Stephen King - 768 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:09:52] <exec> 08└─Wait! Who are you really? Are you that guy who gave me the free bag all those years ago? Crap! I coulda been a contender! I could've been somebody! Not a bum, which is what I am! I could have been Brandon Marlo, or Chuck Berry, or Beri Yoga, or somebody. Maybe Paul Ryan? Why did you not visit him?...
[09:10:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:What's with the snark? - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:10:22] <exec> 08└─Snark is a step up from Frojack's normally ambian equivalent
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[09:11:11] <exec> 08└─that's what I do. 2 screens each 1440x2560. the boss had money that needed to be spent at the end of the year (otherwise it's lost), so I now have a 9:8 ratio display with a negligible thingie in the middle. since I program/write LaTeX/read, I would have half-screen windows anyway, and I just enjoy...
[09:12:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score:2) 02Re:Speaking of alternatives - 06Opera Releases "Neon", an Experimental Web Browser - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:12:04] <exec> 08└─holy crap! Otter is actually good!
[09:12:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Speaking of alternatives - 06Opera Releases "Neon", an Experimental Web Browser - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:12:05] <exec> 08└─I've been using Vivaldi for half a year, but finally went back to Firefox because I got tired of the daily Vivaldi crashes.
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[10:09:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Runaway has a Journal: mods needed. - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:09:30] <exec> 08└─but I think we need to make a point that posts the deny the right of a human being to control their own body (not to mention the rights of robots?) do not belong on this site at all.
[10:09:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Runaway has a Journal: mods needed. - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 1474 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:09:31] <exec> 08└─OMG! khallow, you're pregnant? Congratulations! But if you could understand words, you would know I never said you don't own your own labor, I was just contesting whether you could actually alienate it. Kind of like whether or not you can sell your kids. Product of your own labor, right? And your...
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[10:09:33] <exec> 08└─Be safe. Call 911. That babble sounds like it could be a stroke or aneurysm. I imagine you're feeling blinding headaches and numbness along one side of your body. Do something about it while you still can.
[10:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Runaway has a Journal: mods needed. - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 660 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:09:35] <exec> 08└─Whole thing is off-topic, sort of. But maybe not? What if we are growing robots, and for some reason, before they are complete, they manifest defects, or maybe the market shifts and we no longer need so many: could we terminate these embryonic robots with no more feelings than shutting down an assem...
[10:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Data, Star Trek Next Generation. - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:09:41] <exec> 08└─Human rights. The very name is racist.
[10:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Data, Star Trek Next Generation. - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:09:44] <exec> 08└─Peter Singer uses the term "speciesist", but yes, point taken. (By the way, which are you?)
[10:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Data, Star Trek Next Generation. - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:09:46] <exec> 08└─(By the way, which are you?)
[10:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Data, Star Trek Next Generation. - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 2371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:09:48] <exec> 08└─That was an interesting episode. One of my main fascinations with Star Trek was their boldness to question "conventional wisdoms" using outer space aliens serving as proxy for our own sacred cows, so fundamental concepts could be discussed without stepping on someone's holy hot spot. That series su...
[10:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Data, Star Trek Next Generation. - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:09:50] <exec> 08└─Remember the follow-up with the Exocomp mining robots? So many shades of gray.
[10:10:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Re:Many other contributing factors - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 747 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:40] <exec> 08└─"Here's a contributing factor for you. Back in the 1990s I made a lot more money and did a lot of driving around before I would make a purchase. Today, I know my salary hasn't kept up with inflation, and I rarely ever purchase anything but food anymore. Thanks, Obama, for doing jack shit about the r...
[10:13:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03esperto123 [4303] (Score:2) 02Re:Aliens was never the probable explanation - 06Non-Alien Explanation for Tabby's Star Dimming: It Ate a Planet - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:13:02] <exec> 08└─Agreed it was a far fetched and every astronomer under the sun regarded as a very very low probability, but it was fun to speculate about. The idea that we might have seen evidence of a far more advanced life for is fascinating to the point of irresistible, but although some nut jobs took it serious...
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[11:09:05] <exec> 08└─What I'm curious about is: 1) How does Whatsapp Web work with all this encryption 2) What does that whatsapp - facebook "improve ads" thing[1] really imply, is it really as Whatsapp claims? [1] http://www.independent.co.uk
[11:09:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02WhatsApp apoligsts - 06WhatsApp Vulnerability Allows Snooping on Encrypted Messages -- Or Does it? - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:09:07] <exec> 08└─If the cryptography works it works, if it doesn't then it does not. Backdoor or not.
[11:09:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedIsNotGreen [2191] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Red Herring - 06WhatsApp Vulnerability Allows Snooping on Encrypted Messages -- Or Does it? - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:09:09] <exec> 08└─Using a closed-source app, crypto backdoor or not, allows snooping on messages.
[11:09:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I dislike Facebook and all it stands for - 06WhatsApp Vulnerability Allows Snooping on Encrypted Messages -- Or Does it? - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:09:11] <exec> 08└─It is things like these that tell you that Facebook is all about furthering the agenda of some people. The hidden hand is behind it. This particular app gives its users a false sense of security and you have to remember that a lot of money went into making it look secure.
[11:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Runaway has a Journal: mods needed. - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 531 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:09:43] <exec> 08└─Thank you for your concern, khallow. But when you are almost 2400 years old, you tend to know all the signs of medical conditions, so not to worry. Besides, it is only your obstinacy and coming to the aid of the most insidious enemies of personal freedom that could produce such verbiage from me, I a...
[11:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Data, Star Trek Next Generation. - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:09:55] <exec> 08└─I question why we want to even try to build an intelligent machine.
[11:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Data, Star Trek Next Generation. - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:09:56] <exec> 08└─To tell stories.
[11:11:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And here I bought a 4K Wednesday - 06Dell Announces First "Mass-Market" 8K Display - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:11:38] <exec> 08└─There are a fair number of 4k videos on youtube. Maybe you could play some games in 4k too... Like chess ;).
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[12:09:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score:2) 02Re:Whatsapp Web - 06WhatsApp Vulnerability Allows Snooping on Encrypted Messages -- Or Does it? - 733 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:09:16] <exec> 08└─whatsapp web connects to your phone via some sort of remote API. This is why you need your phone up and running when using it, and why if your phone battery dies you cannot continue using whatsapp web. I suspect that the phone connects to some sort of proxy server ran by whatsapp, then you connect t...
[12:09:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Red Herring - 06WhatsApp Vulnerability Allows Snooping on Encrypted Messages -- Or Does it? - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:09:19] <exec> 08└─Using an open-source app without reading every line of source code for every update allows snooping on messages.
[12:09:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Undesirable behaviour - 06WhatsApp Vulnerability Allows Snooping on Encrypted Messages -- Or Does it? - 2515 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:09:22] <exec> 08└─Backdoor or not, it is certainly undesirable behaviour - I would have thought it would be desirable to inform the user that the encryption key had changed before re-sending undelivered messages - that is, give the user the choice of accepting the re-keying or not, before re-sending sensitive informa...
[12:09:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02free data in a box - 06FCC's Tom Wheeler Accuses AT&T and Verizon of Violating Possibly Short-Lived Net Neutrality Rules - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:09:30] <exec> 08└─I want to walk into a store and pay cash to buy a little red box, and I want that little red box to broadcast a wifi signal, and I want the wifi signal to give me free internet access, and I don't want to pay any additional fees after I already paid for the little red box. And I want all this to hav...
[12:09:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:free data in a box - 06FCC's Tom Wheeler Accuses AT&T and Verizon of Violating Possibly Short-Lived Net Neutrality Rules - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:09:33] <exec> 08└─Well that was easy. Data caps. I don't even.
[12:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Data, Star Trek Next Generation. - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:13] <exec> 08└─I question why we want to even try to build an intelligent machine.
[12:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03garfiejas [2072] (Score:1) 02When they can argue their case... - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 1772 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:10:14] <exec> 08└─The draft report has some good points (classification system for robots), some bad ones (Licence for Designers) and some off topic ones (Asimov's Laws with respect to todays machines). Given its the EU Commission that initiates laws or "directives" and not the EU Parliament (which its been written f...
[12:10:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Knockers! - 06Book Review: 11/22/63, by Stephen King - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:10:31] <exec> 08└─I stopped reading King after 'reading' (I can't call saying "wtf???" reading) Tommy Knockers: he just seemed to lose it in that booze haze, or something. Maybe time to read him again....
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[13:09:17] <exec> 08└─This is true, but the open-source variant at least allows some* possibility of finding the backdoor. The closed-source one doesn't. *To be clear, open-source is not the answer: free software is. Unless you can compile the software yourself, there is no guarantee the source you are shown is the sourc...
[13:09:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I dislike Facebook and all it stands for - 06WhatsApp Vulnerability Allows Snooping on Encrypted Messages -- Or Does it? - 486 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:09:19] <exec> 08└─I know what you mean. I was sitting alone in a cafe the other day and I happened to overhear some woman at the next table talking about how some childhood friend of hers tracked her down on Facebook after all these years. I really don't want to hear about how everyone is on Facebook these days becau...
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[13:09:22] <exec> 08└─Backdoor or not, it is certainly undesirable behaviour - I would have thought it would be desirable to inform the user that the encryption key had changed before re-sending undelivered messages - that is, give the user the choice of accepting the re-keying or not, before re-sending sensitive informa...
[13:09:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:free data in a box - 06FCC's Tom Wheeler Accuses AT&T and Verizon of Violating Possibly Short-Lived Net Neutrality Rules - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:09:32] <exec> 08└─I don't even.
[13:09:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:free data in a box - 06FCC's Tom Wheeler Accuses AT&T and Verizon of Violating Possibly Short-Lived Net Neutrality Rules - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:09:34] <exec> 08└─Yes, 53 is an odd numbered port.
[13:09:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:free data in a box - 06FCC's Tom Wheeler Accuses AT&T and Verizon of Violating Possibly Short-Lived Net Neutrality Rules - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:09:36] <exec> 08└─Whoa whoa whoa, are you saying if I put an SSH server on port 53, I can get free internet?
[13:10:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Data, Star Trek Next Generation. - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:16] <exec> 08└─But!! Replicants are not robots.
[13:11:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02cheap storage server upgrade path? - 06Kingston Announces a 2 TB USB Flash Drive - 548 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:11:28] <exec> 08└─I was thinking the other day, I have a load of unused USB ports on one of my storage servers (10 to be precise), wouldn't it be great if I could get a bunch of reasonably priced small flash dongles of 1 TB or greater capacity and stuff all these slots full so they're actually doing something, and pr...
[13:13:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ancient history - 06National Academies Releases Report on Cannabis Health Effects - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:56] <exec> 08└─I think it seems to increase your tendency to accept ideas, and to form conclusions. ... It is, for some people, the gullibility drug.
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[14:09:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Thank You, Obama Voters!! - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:09:11] <exec> 08└─So Glad all you Fuckers voted for Obama!
[14:09:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02It's ok - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:12] <exec> 08└─Trump will issue a day one executive order undoing this because he respects Americans' right to privacy.
[14:09:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02manna manna manna - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:15] <exec> 08└─I want basic income and a pony. Burger Time me, G!
[14:09:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Thank You, Obama Voters!! - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:17] <exec> 08└─Yeah, because the neocon candidates wouldn't have done anything like that, right? Get a life, alright?
[14:09:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Thank You, Obama Voters!! - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:19] <exec> 08└─Obama IS a neo-con, idiot.
[14:09:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Thank You, Obama Voters!! - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 414 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:21] <exec> 08└─Exactly. Now, until Sanders and Trump, which recent candidate was NOT a neocon? McCain, Clinton, and the magic underwear guy were all neocons. So, we had to choose the lesser evil among neocons for the last few years. While every one is beating down Trump, I'll remind them that Trump isn't a neocon....
[14:09:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Thank You, Obama Voters!! - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:23] <exec> 08└─I sure didn't expect Brennan to get slapped with a figurative glob of shit on his way out.
[14:09:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Thank You, Obama Voters!! - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:25] <exec> 08└─Oh, how very true. Instead, he's going for far more hardcore extremists along the neocon spectrum to be in his cabinet. Because he hasn't got clue fucking one about who to appoint other than in the style of, "Pikachu, I choose you!" Get ready for a full-conservative enema, America!
[14:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Whatsapp Web - 06WhatsApp Vulnerability Allows Snooping on Encrypted Messages -- Or Does it? - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:40] <exec> 08└─Oops, Soylentnews is a bit late to the party here, this story was already debunked as nothing more than bad reporting several days ago.
[14:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02"Improve ads" - 06WhatsApp Vulnerability Allows Snooping on Encrypted Messages -- Or Does it? - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:42] <exec> 08└─Somehow I really doubt that facebook is using whatsapp to convert their shitty ads to HTML, so I'm thinking that's what's called 'puffery' - obvious bullshit that's so obvious you can't even sue them over it.
[14:10:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03erichill [658] (Score:1) 02Re:Obvious question - 06Book Review: 11/22/63, by Stephen King - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:54] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, the story revolves around the fact that every time you go back in time, the past is reset. So you only get one shot at doing it right.
[14:11:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bethany.Saint [5900] (Score:2) 02Re:You get what you pay for - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:33] <exec> 08└─What are you trying to point out? You've stated a fact but not if this is good, bad, or neutral. If it's bad, what would you recommend to mitigate the problem?
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[15:09:31] <exec> 08└─That seems a fair criticism so far and I agree this process should be watched carefully. Ultimately he seems like the kind of guy that will appoint someone he disagrees with but respects, but still expect that guy to defer to him the ultimate decisions and back them the same. Some of the people he's...
[15:09:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Thank You, Obama Voters!! - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 714 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:33] <exec> 08└─As you say, "time will tell", so I haven't been following his appointments much yet but I know of one possible counterpoint so far: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Trump wants Kennedy to "lead a new government commission on vaccine safety and scientific integrity". Kennedy has no educational background in imm...
[15:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Thank You, Obama Voters!! - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 1175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:35] <exec> 08└─Sometimes, I really wonder who has a grip on the term "neocon" and who doesn't. A person can be very far right, and not be a neocon. I wish that I had saved the front page from 'The New American Century' when I found it all those years ago. The front page, and all the rest of the site. Trump doesn't...
[15:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Thank You, Obama Voters!! - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:37] <exec> 08└─neocon candidates
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[15:10:40] <exec> 08└─Sounds like the accident with the cloning machine that created Lentilla...and led to the creation of Allitnel -- both by the millions.
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[15:10:55] <exec> 08└─> That series sure helped me see a lot of things handed down to me ... We didn't have TV at home when I was a kid (in hindsight a very good choice by my parents). Only saw a few ST & THG episodes at friend's houses. Instead, I read SF, starting with Heinlein juveniles* and kept on going for years af...
[15:11:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Anybody remember the song War? - 06Tightest Molecular Knot Created - 678 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:25] <exec> 08└─I'll take the tack that: the knottiness of this little structure has nothing to do with its utility. Lots of small chemical structures have catalyst properties, without knots in their structure. I can see utility in a bigger knot that might partially capture things inside its loops (sort of a leaki...
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[15:12:43] <exec> 08└─The same people who have been overselling hard drive capacities for decades have managed to convince the public that 3840 = 4096. It's not. If you follow their lead and call it "4K", you've been sucked in by marketing. It looks like Dell is going to same route with their "8K" monitor. 7680 = 7.5K, n...
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[16:09:14] <exec> 08└─This was the last thing that I didn't know I didn't know - I can't think of any others.
[16:09:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Re:Thank You, Obama Voters!! - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 414 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:27] <exec> 08└─Exactly. Now, until Sanders and Trump, which recent candidate was NOT a neocon? McCain, Clinton, and the magic underwear guy were all neocons. So, we had to choose the lesser evil among neocons for the last few years. While every one is beating down Trump, I'll remind them that Trump isn't a neocon....
[16:09:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Thank You, Obama Voters!! - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:32] <exec> 08└─Well, *if* there are any issues of safety or scientific integrity, such a person might be just what you need to uncover it. Of course, they're also just the sort of person you'd want to launch a witch hunt that will end with the restoration of such poor endangered species as whooping cough and chole...
[16:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Thank You, Obama Voters!! - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:35] <exec> 08└─Well, *if* there are any issues of safety or scientific integrity, such a person might be just what you need to uncover it.
[16:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Thank You, Obama Voters!! - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:39] <exec> 08└─Indeed. No need to even look to the legislators to see that. You only have to look at the voters themselves. There is literally not one spec of liberalism [dictionary.com] in modern Liberals. Proof? Let's break it down then. a political or social philosophy advocating the freedom of the individual
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[16:09:41] <exec> 08└─"Thanks, Obama!!!"
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[16:10:16] <exec> 08└─yes, you can expand your domain this way very effectively! At various schools that I help with the IT services/support at, we block DNS lookups externally from end user segments and further only allow specific static hosts to do DNS lookups. This forces our guests (such as students) to use our local...
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[16:10:30] <exec> 08└─Well, not a citation exactly [wikipedia.org], but I hope a cetacean will do on short notice for GP's comment.
[16:10:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:Runaway has a Journal: mods needed. - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 540 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:49] <exec> 08└─Huh… opened my mouth there before I saw this. But goodness knows that women will have to go to the EU to get abortions once the current administration is done. (Woohoo! Maybe we'll get somebody right of Pence and Sessions combined for SCOTUS!) Never discount the opinions of cisfemales shouting “...
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[16:11:02] <exec> 08└─If you like Roy's speech you might like this : https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[16:11:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03jIyajbe [5615] 02The Key Is The Author - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 164 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:50] <exec> 08└─To help get the inevitable partisanship started early and on the right foot: The key point of/for the submitter is, I presume, the paper's author: Barack Obama. Go!
[16:11:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03SunTzuWarmaster [3971] (Score:2) 02Re:The Key Is The Author - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 642 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:55] <exec> 08└─I like the idea that the president is taken by aliens and we tell them to keep 'em. "Mr. Vice President, President Trump has been taken by aliens from outer space!" "I say we let them keep him." "Sir? Um, really?!" "The presence of aliens has just been made keenly aware to all people on the planet....
[16:11:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03SunTzuWarmaster [3971] (Score:2) 02Re:The Key Is The Author - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 664 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:57] <exec> 08└─...Damn formatting... I like the idea that the president is taken by aliens and we tell them to keep 'em. "Mr. Vice President, President Trump has been taken by aliens from outer space!" "I say we let them keep him." "Sir? Um, really?!" "The presence of aliens has just been made keenly aware to all...
[16:12:04] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bradley13 [3053] 02Re:Many other contributing factors - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 747 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:05] <exec> 08└─"Here's a contributing factor for you. Back in the 1990s I made a lot more money and did a lot of driving around before I would make a purchase. Today, I know my salary hasn't kept up with inflation, and I rarely ever purchase anything but food anymore. Thanks, Obama, for doing jack shit about the r...
[16:12:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02Required reading on USB-based storage arrays: - 06Kingston Announces a 2 TB USB Flash Drive - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:25] <exec> 08└─http://macguild.org/raid.html [macguild.org] That said, "wouldn't it be great." It would be horrible if those ports were not at least USB 3.0.
[16:13:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02Re:Most vital statistic? - 06Vital Statistics on Congress - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:11] <exec> 08└─A Republican senator just introduced a bill that would impose Congressional term limits - something Trump campaigned on. Whether or not anything will come of it - only time will tell. Now the "party unity" will not be Democrat vs. Republican, it will be Democrat policitian + Republican politician vs...
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[17:09:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Neat! - 06Researchers Discover How Plants Assemble Tannins - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:20] <exec> 08└─This was the last thing that I didn't know I didn't know - I can't think of any others.
[17:09:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Neat! - 06Researchers Discover How Plants Assemble Tannins - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:21] <exec> 08└─Nice try, but I call BS: http://www.upi.com [upi.com] Kangaroos produce a significant amount of methane, researchers found, just not as much as cows and sheep. Adjusted for body weight, the large marsupials...
[17:09:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:manna manna manna - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:32] <exec> 08└─Then go get a job at Mcdonalds, you'll have your basic income and a discount on burgers.
[17:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Thank You, Obama Voters!! - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:46] <exec> 08└─Or how about forcing bakers to sell wedding cakes to people they don't wish to serve at gunpoint?
[17:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:One last time... - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:48] <exec> 08└─Had the last 8 years been 8 glorious years of "Republican ideal governmental leadership" this still would have happened, just at the beginning of their term not the end. Thank yourself for giving into partisan and personal attacks. You are to blame for allowing it to happen. Blaming the other side o...
[17:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:One last time... - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:51] <exec> 08└─To be fair, Bush still got a lot of blame while Obama was president. Of course, neither were god-kings so Congress deserves more blame than they get.
[17:11:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Data, Star Trek Next Generation. - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:13] <exec> 08└─Thanks for it (to be sincere, I didn't resonate with it)
[17:11:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:Obvious question - 06Book Review: 11/22/63, by Stephen King - 1308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:29] <exec> 08└─Sai King loves to mix the mundane in with the supernatural, and I see why he does it. You can write about scary things but if you really want to creep the reader out, put what you're writing about in the uncanny valley. Mixing the mundane and supernatural that way adds to the creepy factor. It build...
[17:11:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Knockers! - 06Book Review: 11/22/63, by Stephen King - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:37] <exec> 08└─Don't bother. Grimwood's "Replay" is the better read here. This is just a drunken regurgitation of what Grimwood wrote thirty years ago.
[17:11:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Anybody remember the song War? - 06Tightest Molecular Knot Created - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:50] <exec> 08└─I'll take the tack that: the knottiness of this little structure has nothing to do with its utility.
[17:12:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:2) 02Re:Many other contributing factors - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:20] <exec> 08└─Of course, the misleading stats were in place before Obama took office. They aren't his fault, but they serve to mask the ongoing recession rather nicely.
[17:13:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And here I bought a 4K Wednesday - 06Dell Announces First "Mass-Market" 8K Display - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:16] <exec> 08└─How does a 4K Wednesday differ from a normal Wednesday? SCNR
[17:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:windblows only - 06Opera Releases "Neon", an Experimental Web Browser - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:42] <exec> 08└─This is not a finished project, but an experiment. For that it is OK to support only a limited number of operating systems, even just one. And I guess if you want many people to test it, Windows is the way to go. When they have a final product, it's time to ask whether it supports Linux.
[17:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What's so special about this? - 06Opera Releases "Neon", an Experimental Web Browser - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:52] <exec> 08└─While Firefox doesn't have it by default, there's an extension to do it; indeed, at least two: Tile Tabs [mozilla.org] and Tile View [mozilla.org].
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[18:09:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Interesting - 06Nano-Chimneys Can Cool Circuits - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:09:18] <exec> 08└─“Interestingly, the nano-chimneys also act like thermal diodes, with heat flowing faster in one direction than the other,” he said.
[18:09:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02How about more cores - 06Nano-Chimneys Can Cool Circuits - 2315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:09:19] <exec> 08└─While there's nothing wrong with making cores go faster, taking away heat, making them draw less power, etc, it seems to me that this approach has limits. Cores haven't been getting much faster for quite some time now. How about building some chips with more and more cores? And, yes, I mean like doz...
[18:09:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:Neat! - 06Researchers Discover How Plants Assemble Tannins - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:29] <exec> 08└─neither sheep nor kangaroos fart; with the same diet, how are they not doing it?
[18:09:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02Re:Neat! - 06Researchers Discover How Plants Assemble Tannins - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:31] <exec> 08└─"TFA says that much" I already know, that's why I never read them. "with the same diet, how are they not doing it?" Magnets.
[18:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Thank You, Obama Voters!! - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:53] <exec> 08└─1 - the oil must flow and 2 - we will go to war if anyone threatens the flow of oil. Moving beyond that, is an adherence to the idea that every man, woman, and child on the planet must serve Wall Street, in some capacity. 1: Trump picks ExxonMobil CEO Rex Tillerson to be secretary of state [washing...
[18:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Thank You, Obama Voters!! - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:55] <exec> 08└─This is the opposite of an enema. We're going to be stuffed to the gills with shit.
[18:09:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Thank You, Obama Voters!! - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 754 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:00] <exec> 08└─I'd prefer a 535 party system at the level of the federal legislature - every representative and senator representing their constituents, instead of building alliances based on commercial branding. Unfortunately, that's far too complicated to sell to the public on entry to a ballot box. The trinary...
[18:10:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:One last time... - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:05] <exec> 08└─Congress get blamed enough already. Witness their punishing single-digits approval ratings and insulting sub-99% re-election rate.
[18:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:One last time... - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 678 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:07] <exec> 08└─These people are trying to destroy the world. It would be a surprise if obama did not start a nuclear war with some country within the next day or so. The cabal behind this president and the previous ones want total control, and the only way they know is start a full-scale war so they can take whats...
[18:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:One last time... - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:09] <exec> 08└─Let's revisit your retarded paranoia post on the 21st and see how many nukes Obama managed to launch.
[18:10:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Wrong election - 06FCC's Tom Wheeler Accuses AT&T and Verizon of Violating Possibly Short-Lived Net Neutrality Rules - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:45] <exec> 08└─How do we establish Tom W as dictator-for-life of the FCC? A guy who turned away millions in future income from his former lobbying customers, to actually do what benefits the people, how often is that found?
[18:11:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Runaway has a Journal: mods needed. - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:17] <exec> 08└─You know, if this is all you have in reply...he's right, and you know it, and you haaaaaate it :) Aristarkos here is sort of like Eth's good twin, the Eth from the universe where we stopped electing cryptofascists after Nixon. Unlike Eth, his trolling very often has useful and insightful things in i...
[18:11:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Runaway has a Journal: mods needed. - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:18] <exec> 08└─You know, if this is all you have in reply...
[18:11:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:Fembots? We immediately go there? - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:26] <exec> 08└─Baby robots! Robot sex! What if the guy is a robot?! Consider the case of Aenea [wikia.com]. Assuming we can't just simply write that one off as immaculate conception and be done with it.
[18:11:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Fembots? We immediately go there? - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 701 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:28] <exec> 08└─I'm very glad I'm not the only one who's noticed how far the membership of this site skews loonie-right and sociopathic. The replies in previous threads on this subject ranged from simply juvenile trolling to blood-freezingly psychopathic. Given the anti-human-trafficking stuff I've done it's doubly...
[18:11:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Obvious question - 06Book Review: 11/22/63, by Stephen King - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:53] <exec> 08└─I haven't worked out time travel yet, and am getting really sick of reincarnating even though I can only remember one previous life. Sorry, but unless someone figures out how to go back in time, y'all motherfuckers are on your own when this body dies.
[18:12:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Spoiler warnings ? - 06Book Review: 11/22/63, by Stephen King - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:12:04] <exec> 08└─> It's also a love story, with the sweetest ending of any story I've ever read. There goes my running hypothesis that he accidentally ends up 500 years too early, is tortured, drawn, quartered, then burnt at the stake, while she gets sold into sex slavery, and her germs cause the equivalent of a sup...
[18:12:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:small clits are so hard to find - 06Tightest Molecular Knot Created - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:14] <exec> 08└─Sadly, it only reminds me of the terrible fake news campaign to make people believe that Our Beloved Leader has small hands.
[18:12:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Key Is The Author - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:41] <exec> 08└─Considering Pence is a science denier I doubt he would acknowledge aliens exist even if they did grab Trump. He would probably say they were "angels" of some sort who were embracing Trump's polices and taking him to help save Heaven.
[18:12:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:The Key Is The Author - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:43] <exec> 08└─TR because the most likely scenario is that he is doing the rescuing
[18:12:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You get what you pay for - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:47] <exec> 08└─If it's bad, what would you recommend to mitigate the problem?
[18:12:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You get what you pay for - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:49] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure about that. They could explode. We should stick with natural gas....
[18:12:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Many other contributing factors - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:57] <exec> 08└─Don't include energy and good in the CPI inflation "basket".
[18:12:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Why the hell is this news? - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 655 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:12:59] <exec> 08└─The only reason this pretends to be news is because of the author. From every other perspective, it's a big yawn from the Department of the Bleedin' Obvious. Wanna know what would have been news? "HOLY SHIT, MARTHA!!! We've been trying our damnedest to increase efficiencies of carbon and energy usag...
[18:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:7680/4320=16:9 - 06Dell Announces First "Mass-Market" 8K Display - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:37] <exec> 08└─I solved the height issue by taking one of our 4K displays after a trade show. 40-inch 4K TV makes for a nice monitor at a 2- to 3-foot viewing distance. If you're not picky about gamut and depth, they've gotten really cheap. You can tell the wife you're not getting a third, you're getting only one...
[18:14:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Increasing polarization - 06Vital Statistics on Congress - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:07] <exec> 08└─Not a lot of room for "independent thinking" in Congress these days. Term limits would fix that.
[18:14:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:effect of manufacturing alt realities - 06Vital Statistics on Congress - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:11] <exec> 08└─The cis-het-male patriarchy is holding us down, etc.
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[19:09:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Shortage of talent in IT? Really? - 06The Rewards of Advanced Agile and DevOps Adoption - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:09:13] <exec> 08└─You (CA) mean shortage of talent that works for peanuts or on 80h/week (or both), right?
[19:09:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Shortage of talent in IT? Really? - 06The Rewards of Advanced Agile and DevOps Adoption - 498 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:14] <exec> 08└─Also, more specifically addressing the claims here, "DevOps" just means "Bully your developers into doing the work of system and network administrators, and vice versa." In a properly run IT department, yes, those fields have to interact a lot, but they are different specialties: Your developers won...
[19:09:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rich [945] (Score:3, Touché) 02First Post - 06The Rewards of Advanced Agile and DevOps Adoption - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:09:16] <exec> 08└─- competitive environment - check - customer satisfaction - check - brand loyalty - check - agile - check - DevOps - check - global study - check - employee productivity - check - recruitment - check - retention - check - shortage of talent in IT - check BINGO!
[19:09:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Doing it, or doing it right? - 06The Rewards of Advanced Agile and DevOps Adoption - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:09:19] <exec> 08└─My boss thinks he's implementing Agile ... I've sent him a detailed list of how we're clearly not doing Agile right. He hasn't changed anything, mainly because we're too few people on too many project to do Agile properly, but he still acts as if we were doing Agile... More than a bit painful, reall...
[19:09:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcross [4009] (Score:2) 02Re:Interesting - 06Nano-Chimneys Can Cool Circuits - 660 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:28] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure I would go so far as to call it a thermal diode, but convection in a chimney does have this property, tending to transfer more heat up than down. Of course once the top and bottom of the chimney are close enough in temperature, heat isn't going to flow at all, analogous to a diode with...
[19:09:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Interesting - 06Nano-Chimneys Can Cool Circuits - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:30] <exec> 08└─Will nano chimneys work in space? Must the CPU have a single preset orientation? eg, do not design an enclosure that puts the CPU into the wrong orientation so that chimneys are sideways or down.
[19:09:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:How about more cores - 06Nano-Chimneys Can Cool Circuits - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:33] <exec> 08└─If you really want more good cores, you eventually need to stack them. Stacking could be the most important research in classical computing. If they manage to make a CPU or GPU with hundreds or thousands of layers, that's orders of magnitude of speedup for the embarrassingly parallel problems.
[19:09:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:How about more cores - 06Nano-Chimneys Can Cool Circuits - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:36] <exec> 08└─I suppose once that many cores, even small ones, are built into a chip, the issues of removing heat once again start to become significant.
[19:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Thank You, Obama Voters!! - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:10] <exec> 08└─The Trump voters all get fooled big time and cant come to grips with getting fucked up the ass so hard. At this point they're plugging their ears shouting "I cant hear you LA LA LA LA..." They cant admit failure or accept humility.
[19:10:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Thank You, Obama Voters!! - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 351 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:11] <exec> 08└─The report I think you're looking for: Project for a New American Century: Rebuilding America's Defenses [informationclearinghouse.info] Among other things, that paper demonstrates conclusively that the Bush administration's decision to attack Iraq occurred long before Sept 11, 2001, and had absolut...
[19:10:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Thank You, Obama Voters!! - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 920 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:14] <exec> 08└─No, Obama is a neo-lib, not a neo-con. There's a difference: * A neo-conservative wants to openly oppress racial and religious minorities, women, and LGBT people while selling off the country's other policies to the highest bidder and rampaging throughout the Middle East slaughtering people for no g...
[19:10:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Thank You, Obama Voters!! - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:20] <exec> 08└─Or how about forcing bakers to sell wedding cakes to people they don't wish to serve at gunpoint?
[19:10:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02You know... - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:28] <exec> 08└─I honestly did not think I would see a president more petty and vindictive than G. W. Bush in my lifetime. I guess I was wrong.
[19:11:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03anubi [2828] 02Re:Who is responsible? - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 485 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:16] <exec> 08└─Yes. I am getting really fed up with ways of obfuscating responsibility. This kind of thing seems to encourage the worst in people. The "lower classes" are kept in line by ensuring each is held responsible for their works. I believe in our "Pledge of Allegiance" in which we pledge allegiance to this...
[19:11:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rich [945] (Score:2) 02Or is it maybe just marketing? - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 957 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:12:00] <exec> 08└─I happened to see the 1995 Ghost in the Shell anime yesterday. Partly because I wanted to be informed about its origins when the real-actor adaption hits the screens later this year. The core of that story is utterly bang on the topic of these considerations. Could it be that it was some marketing a...
[19:13:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:You get what you pay for - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:05] <exec> 08└─Wind a solar may be cheap,
[19:15:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Sigh - 06Tesla Details How It’ll Charge New Owners to Use Superchargers - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:26] <exec> 08└─That's US logic, though. European cars are often capable of 500 or 600 miles (a few get even higher), despite the Europeans driving a lot less on average. That tank of gas costs you an arm and a leg (80-120 Euros for a sedan), and often requires a small detour because of the lower station density, b...
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[20:09:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Let's get motivated people - 06If You Want to Earn More, Work Less - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:09:07] <exec> 08└─The silver trim on my toilet bowl is not going to shine itself.
[20:09:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I've got that beat... - 06If You Want to Earn More, Work Less - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:09:08] <exec> 08└─One week when some people were on vacation, and others were fired, I clocked over 200 hours in one week. Figure that one out.
[20:09:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:2) 02Re:I've got that beat... - 06If You Want to Earn More, Work Less - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:11] <exec> 08└─It must have been a long week. There are only 168 hours in a normal week.
[20:09:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:I've got that beat... - 06If You Want to Earn More, Work Less - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:13] <exec> 08└─Uh, duh. You just double or triple bill all your clients, then claim that instead of active and intentional fraud, hard work got you rich. This is America. It works.
[20:09:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I've got that beat... - 06If You Want to Earn More, Work Less - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:15] <exec> 08└─The God of Time HATES him.
[20:09:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''Figure that one out'' - 06If You Want to Earn More, Work Less - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:17] <exec> 08└─Easy. You're a lawyer. (There are 168 hours in a calendar week.) -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
[20:09:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02robots are just labor made out of capital - 06If You Want to Earn More, Work Less - 427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:09:19] <exec> 08└─There was a time, in the recent past, when everybody though the development of new technology would reduce the length of the work week, Instead, its had the exact opposite effect. Maybe that's because nearly all the benefits of new technology have gone to owners and not workers so we've had to work...
[20:09:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02I've done more in a week but only for a few weeks - 06If You Want to Earn More, Work Less - 1427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:09:21] <exec> 08└─I've done more in a week but only for a few weeks when I was younger and paid hourly and it was a simple job at a gas station. The company I worked for would pay double time for anything over 80 and if you worked overnight you got an extra $1/hr. So for 3 weeks I worked my usual 45 hours (5days x 9h...
[20:09:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02...unless you're in Japan or USA - 06If You Want to Earn More, Work Less - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:09:24] <exec> 08└─FTFA the average full-time employee in the US works a 47-hour week, nearly a full workday longer than the standard nine-to-five schedule. Moreover, nearly one in five workers (18%) reports working 60 hours or more per week. [...] Toyota now limits overtime to 360 hours a year (or an average of 30 ho...
[20:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:First Post - 06The Rewards of Advanced Agile and DevOps Adoption - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:35] <exec> 08└─Damn it. I just needed "synergy" too.
[20:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How about more cores - 06Nano-Chimneys Can Cool Circuits - 999 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:49] <exec> 08└─Stacking layers of complex processor cores on one chip seems unlikely in the near future. At the start of this article https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] it mentions that there are often 300 processing steps in current wafer production. The l...
[20:10:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Thank You, Obama Voters!! - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 838 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:27] <exec> 08└─That document was partly incorporated into the website. I found the site in the months before 9/11/01, and I visited it often in the months after 9/11/01. I watched the site "evolve" over that time. It never occurred to me to archive it - I really wish I had. I have found a link to an archive of the...
[20:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Thank You, Obama Voters!! - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:34] <exec> 08└─That's diplomacy, that is. Cake in one hand and a pistol in the other and asking which they'd prefer. Yes, I could have gone with the Eddy Izzard joke [youtube.com] but I prefer the Jim Butcher joke by a slight margin.
[20:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Thank You, Obama Voters!! - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:37] <exec> 08└─You got him pegged more or less correctly except the "or present financial standing". He was very much against anyone who had the gall to make median income or above. He didn't outright say that but he said the word "socialist" and every free-this or free-that policy he talked about would have had t...
[20:10:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Thank You, Obama Voters!! - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:40] <exec> 08└─You are aware that discrimination is allowed citizens, yes? It's what's supposed to keep us from selling arms to ISIS. You and your PC ilk are not who gets to decide what behavior is above discrimination.
[20:10:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:One last time... - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:48] <exec> 08└─Why is it that only Republican Presidents get to leave behind a stinking mess for the next gu? This is new normal. I hope Trump finds cement in the toilets.
[20:10:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You know... - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:51] <exec> 08└─Calm down, he's not the President yet.
[20:12:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Runaway has a Journal: mods needed. - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:01] <exec> 08└─You never see them in the same room together!
[20:12:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''what do you do with the rest of your time?'' - 06Book Review: 11/22/63, by Stephen King - 1019 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:34] <exec> 08└─I was recently listening to Prof. Maria Armoudian interviewing Prof. Paul Ehrlich.[1] [kpfk.org] Among other subjects, Ehrlich was talking about how modern people require both spouses to have jobs to achieve all their "needs".[2] He noted that our hunter-gatherer ancestors worked about 2.5 hours a w...
[20:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Shadow Stats is full of bunk - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:37] <exec> 08└─Anyone citing shadowstats for anything is just disqualifying their entire argument from the start. They have been widely and thoroughly debunked. [google.com]
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[21:09:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Eric S Raymond is too old - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:09:08] <exec> 08└─Old man disapproves of youth culture. That does it. Shoot ESR in the head. He's finished.
[21:09:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Eric S Raymond is too old - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:09] <exec> 08└─A programming language is a cultural thing? So, what you're saying is, special snowflakes need their own languages? Seems to me that languages evolve, and the new generations twist languages to their own use and purpose. But, I never heard that youth need their own language before. I figure you're j...
[21:09:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Eric S Raymond is too old - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:12] <exec> 08└─Special snowflakes like ESR? I guess he does. And since Runaway cannot code at all, not even a snowflake, more of a sleet-drop.
[21:09:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02C and C++ - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:09:14] <exec> 08└─What's wrong with C and C++? Oh wait, right... you actually have to *know* what you're doing when using these tools...
[21:09:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Here goes... - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:09:16] <exec> 08└─Have you tried using Rust, Go or any other language that might replace C in the future? What are your experiences?
[21:09:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:I've done more in a week but only for a few wee - 06If You Want to Earn More, Work Less - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:31] <exec> 08└─Good on ya. That's how college is supposed to be paid for.
[21:09:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I've done more in a week but only for a few wee - 06If You Want to Earn More, Work Less - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:33] <exec> 08└─That's how college is supposed to be paid for.
[21:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:I've done more in a week but only for a few wee - 06If You Want to Earn More, Work Less - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:35] <exec> 08└─Bottom line : college is a negative investment, and it will ruin your life forever.
[21:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I've done more in a week but only for a few wee - 06If You Want to Earn More, Work Less - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:37] <exec> 08└─You're not understanding the message, you senile old coot. A college degree isn't worth paying for, not with anyone's money.
[21:09:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:...unless you're in Japan or USA - 06If You Want to Earn More, Work Less - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:40] <exec> 08└─What do you mean, salaried people are not paid hourly and 40 hours has nothing to do with anything for them? Fuck The Man! Riot! Riot!
[21:09:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:...unless you're in Japan or USA - 06If You Want to Earn More, Work Less - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:43] <exec> 08└─You are being frowned at by the ghost of Joe Hill. [marxists.org] In the process of achieving labor standards that were more fair, workers died. [wikipedia.org] ...then, in time, workers became complacent and let their gains be taken away by Reactionaries. ...with some among The Working Class, $DIET...
[21:09:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:3, Insightful) 02...? - 06If You Want to Earn More, Work Less - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:09:45] <exec> 08└─If You Want to Earn More, Work Less
[21:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 0280 hours sounds pretty bad, right? - 06If You Want to Earn More, Work Less - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:09:47] <exec> 08└─This is reality for essentially all medical residents. Who are likely the first people to see you and the ones directly taking care of you in hospital. And the ACGME thinks 80 hours per week may be too low/restrictive. If that sounds horrible to you, think about doing it for years. With literal live...
[21:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shortage of talent in IT? Really? - 06The Rewards of Advanced Agile and DevOps Adoption - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:57] <exec> 08└─Whoever modded this disagree must be a manager...
[21:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shortage of talent in IT? Really? - 06The Rewards of Advanced Agile and DevOps Adoption - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:59] <exec> 08└─DevOps is agile sysadminery. Don't test anything. Change production directly and hope it works. I do that all the time. I'm supposed to have brand loyalty? The fuck does that mean? I did all the SEO advertising and shit and my app is found by all the keywords. Still nobody fucking uses my app except...
[21:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Doing it, or doing it right? - 06The Rewards of Advanced Agile and DevOps Adoption - 1177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:04] <exec> 08└─My boss read about this on blog his boss made him read, so we're going to be agile. Something about a button that sets up everything cookie cutter automatically, too. outside consultants will make the button do what the button is supposed to, and completely unskilled labor by HCL will press the butt...
[21:11:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Thank You, Obama Voters!! - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:05] <exec> 08└─You are a complete idiot. How in gods name are you confusing selling weapons to terrorists to refusing to sell cakes to gay people?
[21:11:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Thank You, Obama Voters!! - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:07] <exec> 08└─No confusion. They're exactly the same thing. They're discrimination based solely on the actions of the customer.
[21:12:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Runaway has a Journal: mods needed. - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:26] <exec> 08└─There must be time travel involved.
[21:12:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Runaway has a Journal: mods needed. - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:27] <exec> 08└─Horseshit, Hallow. Aristarchus DOES say things with substance, and on a fairly regular basis. Eth is basically a shock jock wannabee; think Howard Stern with the attention span of a gnat and malignant Tourette's.
[21:13:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Related creepy thought: - 06Book Review: 11/22/63, by Stephen King - 500 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:04] <exec> 08└─What if you relived the same life over and over again, and could remember the previous iteration through the same life (sort of a lifelong groundhog's day), only each new iteration things were slightly different (language, colors, etc) so that all your memories of the past life didn't make sense to...
[21:13:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Newsflash - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 114 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:38] <exec> 08└─Practically everything you do read that is scientific and paywalled has also been produced at tax payer's expense.
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[22:09:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Eric S Raymond is too old - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 451 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:12] <exec> 08└─Wow, you finally got something right. Runaway can't code. On a good day, Runaway can step through some other person's code, and see what's happening. But, Runaway just never got into coding. The most complicated thing he has ever done was to code a game on a TRS-80, way back in the day when BASIC wa...
[22:09:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Eric S Raymond is too old - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 947 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:14] <exec> 08└─Holy fuck, you're old and demented. Look at this, Rust has a Code of Conduct [rust-lang.org]. That's right, don't follow the link and don't read it. Now, a programming language doesn't need a code of conduct. Normally you publish a specification and distribute a compiler and programmers follow your...
[22:09:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Eric S Raymond is too old - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:16] <exec> 08└─Coc is for chicks - I don't have anything to do with them. I don't read EULA's, TOS's, or any of that other crap. Or, actually, sometimes I do read them, just to see how many ways I can violate them. I certainly don't take that crap seriously. If these children want me to even consider a code of con...
[22:09:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Eric S Raymond is too old - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:18] <exec> 08└─Considering how hideous the language is, you'd think they need all the help they can get, troll or not. I got a headache just from looking at 4 lines of that gobshite.
[22:09:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Eric S Raymond is too old - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:20] <exec> 08└─Coc is for chicks - I don't have anything to do with them.
[22:09:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Eric S Raymond is too old - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:22] <exec> 08└─Any community that needs a code of conduct is not a community I want to belong to.
[22:09:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Eric S Raymond is too old - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:25] <exec> 08└─Good luck getting a job. It's a post-skills world out there and social fit is everything. There's a television documentary you should see. It's called "Younger".
[22:09:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Eric S Raymond is too old - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:27] <exec> 08└─I never heard that youth need their own language before.
[22:09:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:C and C++ - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:30] <exec> 08└─What's wrong is there are programs written in C which are older than the average coder. Unix people are old or dead and old code is old and old is bad. It's a new generation of coder people and they need to rewrite everything because no way are they going to maintain dead people's code in a dead lan...
[22:09:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:C and C++ - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:32] <exec> 08└─"Inspectis ante laminis, tollere de curru equorum."
[22:09:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:2) 02Re:C and C++ - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:34] <exec> 08└─Yeah, you and everybody else conspiring with you on an open source project. Don't ever forget all the undocumented details of file X among 200 other files with just as many idiosyncrasies. I'm sure everybody else knows how it works anyway. Any successful project will eventually be held back by how l...
[22:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:C and C++ - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:36] <exec> 08└─Any successful project will eventually be held back by how long it takes to effectively review a pull request.
[22:09:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Here goes... - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:40] <exec> 08└─I tried evaluating Rust shortly before the 1.0 release. Continuous retries over about month failed to produce a successful compilation because either cargo or the deps were always out of sync with the language. For a language about to hit it's first release to have been this unstable and for it to h...
[22:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Oblig. - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:42] <exec> 08└─If I had known about scala I would never have invented go.
[22:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Nope - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:44] <exec> 08└─I had a quick look at Rust a while ago (very briefly) and the impression I got was that it was designed by and for people who didn't know about Test Driven Development. It seemed unnecessarily complicated. That was a while ago. Maybe I should look at it again?
[22:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Nope - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 1544 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:46] <exec> 08└─Some people may have a different philosophy, but . . . I view the compiler as the first line of testing. If it fails the compiler, then no need to move on to the next level of testing. Or look at it another way. I would rather have as many proofs of good quality code done in the compiler before we e...
[22:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Nope - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 1482 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:48] <exec> 08└─Test Driven Development isn't "testing" per se, it's writing code a statement at a time to pass a particular test. So you decide one condition at a time what your code must do, implement the test for it, write the line of code to make the test pass, and refactor. Rinse and repeat. You are 100% corre...
[22:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"Which language do you use?" - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:51] <exec> 08└─Visit a coder bar, and you will be asked which language you use. Choose carefully because your answer will signal your social group. JavaScript, no framework? We're just not on the same page. And is that a touch of grey in your beard? Rust you say? Me too! What's your GitHub so I can follow you?
[22:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Hipster languages wowee - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:53] <exec> 08└─In approx. 3 years nobody will remember these even by name.
[22:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I've got that beat... - 06If You Want to Earn More, Work Less - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:06] <exec> 08└─So far all answers above are wrong.
[22:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I've got that beat... - 06If You Want to Earn More, Work Less - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:08] <exec> 08└─1. Time travel? 2. You got marooned on Mars? 3. The punch clock was either in a deep gravity well or traveling close to the speed of light (relatively speaking)?
[22:10:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:I've done more in a week but only for a few wee - 06If You Want to Earn More, Work Less - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:16] <exec> 08└─Apparently you're not understanding my message.
[22:10:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score:1) 02Re:I've done more in a week but only for a few wee - 06If You Want to Earn More, Work Less - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:18] <exec> 08└─Which is why people should pay for it themselves, by working, rather than it being paid for at the expense of everybody else.
[22:10:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:I've done more in a week but only for a few wee - 06If You Want to Earn More, Work Less - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:20] <exec> 08└─Except that there is a net benefit to society from educating the population
[22:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Shortage of talent in IT? Really? - 06The Rewards of Advanced Agile and DevOps Adoption - 643 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:36] <exec> 08└─I find it really unfortunate what people around here think DevOps means. Where I am, DevOps means that devs have access to infrastructure and can provision what they need. It takes good tools to give that kinds of access without worrying about whether devs understand the nuances, sure. But we have g...
[22:10:37] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Rich [945] 02First Post - 06The Rewards of Advanced Agile and DevOps Adoption - 261 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:10:37] <exec> 08└─- competitive environment - check - customer satisfaction - check - brand loyalty - check - agile - check - DevOps - check - global study - check - employee productivity - check - recruitment - check - retention - check - shortage of talent in IT - check BINGO!
[22:10:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Security - 06The Rewards of Advanced Agile and DevOps Adoption - 736 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:10:42] <exec> 08└─Choose your own adventure The main problem with the agile/devops from where I sit is I don't get to see/asses the product/project against any type of security controls/compliance until its a week before it goes out and they ask for a pentest/audit when its already in prod and live to the internet (j...
[22:10:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Security - 06The Rewards of Advanced Agile and DevOps Adoption - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:44] <exec> 08└─It seems like they should have roped you in when it was staged in QA. An issue with functionality or security would be kicked back to dev the same way.
[22:10:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:2) 02CA Says Do More Agile - 06The Rewards of Advanced Agile and DevOps Adoption - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:10:47] <exec> 08└─I'm not surprised at all. After all, CA just in the last year bought and consumed Rally, the crappy enterprise competitor to JIRA or Trac. Now that they have an Agile ticketing tool, of course they would evangelize Agile.
[22:10:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02How does this work for Engineering coding? - 06The Rewards of Advanced Agile and DevOps Adoption - 1661 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:10:49] <exec> 08└─I just came across this interesting document, https://cstools.asme.org [asme.org] (pdf download): An Overview of the PTC 60 / V&V 10 Guide for Verification and Validation in Computational Solid Mechanics Question: Are the sometimes lengthy and costly...
[22:11:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How about more cores - 06Nano-Chimneys Can Cool Circuits - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:03] <exec> 08└─How about dataflow architecture?
[22:11:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:Thank You, Obama Voters!! - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:45] <exec> 08└─Don't forget about The Plan [youtube.com]. Developed during the Bush administration, and picked up by the Obama administration and Clinton's State Department. Will Trump abandon the plan? One can only hope...
[22:12:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You know... - 06Obama Opens NSA's Vast Trove of Warrantless Data to the Entire Intelligence Community - 395 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:12:08] <exec> 08└─yeah, I wanted to see if this comment was specific about the president that is presently president, or the one that isn't president yet, since the comment wouldn't apply to the future when referencing such past events. but if that is confusing I am sure I am confused too. Still, I think our future p...
[22:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Fembots? We immediately go there? - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:28] <exec> 08└─I'm very glad I'm not the only one who's noticed how far the membership of this site skews loonie-right and sociopathic.
[22:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Data, Star Trek Next Generation. - 06EU Parliament Considers "Electronic Personhood" for Robots - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:42] <exec> 08└─I did much the same. Now that you mention it, science fiction did challenge sacred cows in a way fantasy novels, fun though they were and are, never did.
[22:14:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:2) 02Re:Shadow Stats is full of bunk - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 889 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:58] <exec> 08└─I was not aware that "shadowstats" was a specific thing. The basic concept is still valid however, even if a specific implementation is flawed. That's because the real problem is that what normal people care about is extremely hard to quantify. How do you measure how well people's lives are doing, a...
[22:14:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shadow Stats is full of bunk - 06Guy Done With U.S. Government Gig Decides to Write Science Papers - 391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:59] <exec> 08└─One of the most common criticisms of shadowstats is that they simply substitute their own, much less rigorously researched, benchmarks. At least with the government's numbers everybody knows both their obvious implications and their weaknesses. Shadowstats is often just a blackbox. Literally, as in...
[22:15:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:7680/4320=16:9 - 06Dell Announces First "Mass-Market" 8K Display - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:15:46] <exec> 08└─So they can fit more ads along the edges, duh!
[22:16:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score:1) 02Re:Most vital statistic? - 06Vital Statistics on Congress - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:16:12] <exec> 08└─Now the "party unity" will not be Democrat vs. Republican, it will be Democrat policitian + Republican politician vs. Democratic voter + Republican voter. That's the way it has always been. Democrat and republican are one, and term limits will do nothing to fix that.
[22:17:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03JeanCroix [573] (Score:2) 02Headline - 06Tesla Details How It’ll Charge New Owners to Use Superchargers - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:17:20] <exec> 08└─Before reading TFA, my first thought was to wonder what good a supercharger would do on an electric car. Maybe they should have come up with a different term, given that this one is already in use [wikipedia.org] in the automotive field...
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[23:09:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02fantasy? - 06The Coming End of the "Carbon Bubble" - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:05] <exec> 08└─> Where do you plan to be when the carbon bubble pops? Ideally I'll be in or just outside a small town with a woodlot (or maybe the climate is such that I can solar heat year round). There will be a nice local farmer's market and I might have a garden & solar green house. And when the bubble bursts...
[23:09:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:fantasy? - 06The Coming End of the "Carbon Bubble" - 435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:07] <exec> 08└─I'll sell unicorn milk in aluminium cans imported from Iceland by sailboat. More seriously, I'll be trying to figure out how to put food on the table, and still pay the medical bills, despite the insane transportation prices rippling through the economy. My commute would allow me to ride an electric...
[23:09:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:3, Funny) 021% here I come! - 06The Coming End of the "Carbon Bubble" - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:09] <exec> 08└─With my one whole share of Tesla Motors stock I plan on joining the 1% any minute now!
[23:09:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02When the bubble pops - 06The Coming End of the "Carbon Bubble" - 426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:11] <exec> 08└─> Where do you plan to be when the carbon bubble pops? Assuming I'm still alive...hopefully with those two friends in either the PNW (if we stay here) or in BC working on their farm. City girl or not, I know a good deal of practical stuff, can milk a cow or a goat, and have some carpentry skills--be...
[23:09:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Eric S Raymond is too old - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:28] <exec> 08└─Oh my god, it's true! Runaway is older that ESR! Why do these geezers insist on living longer than is fashionable? Due to excessive bad posting from this IP or Subnet, comment posting has temporarily been disabled.
[23:09:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Eric S Raymond is too old - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:32] <exec> 08└─Also, AC apparently didn't even RTF Summary, where ESR states: By four days in of exploring Go, I had mastered most of the language, had a working program and tests, and was adding features to taste.
[23:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:C and C++ - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 800 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:37] <exec> 08└─Old = stable, targettable, tested. From a security perspective, sure, it needs to be maintained but are you suggesting C projects are any less likely to be maintained than a program written in a language only a handful of years old and not deployed in any major project? I don't get that people think...
[23:09:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:C and C++ - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:40] <exec> 08└─I've never met anyone who programs in Rust seriously.
[23:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03rleigh [4887] (Score:2) 02Re:C and C++ - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 966 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:42] <exec> 08└─> I've never met anyone who programs in Rust seriously I've never met anyone who programs in Rust *at all*! Rust annoys me. It's not the language, it's the incessant hype around it, as though it were the second coming. It's not the only one, Go is almost as bad, and Swift isn't much better. I can't...
[23:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bethany.Saint [5900] (Score:2) 02Re:C and C++ - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:44] <exec> 08└─We need to change society so that people only live till 30. Once they reach 30 we give them a big celebration whereupon we kill them. This would truly be a utopia.
[23:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:C and C++ - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:46] <exec> 08└─Considering the number of people under 30 who have mastered the subtleties of advanced analog design, it will soon be a no-tech utopia.
[23:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:C and C++ - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:48] <exec> 08└─Referencing a book from 50 years ago? How old of you. No, we don't kill people over 30. We don't celebrate them. We ignore them. We exclude them from society. Presumably they kill themselves or starve to death or something. Life doesn't exist after 30.
[23:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:C and C++ - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:50] <exec> 08└─We need to change society so that people only live till 30. Once they reach 30 we give them a big celebration whereupon we kill them. This would truly be a utopia.
[23:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03shipofgold [4696] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:C and C++ - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 438 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:54] <exec> 08└─IMHO the language that it is written in has no bearing on the undocumented details of file X. The age of the project has a huge bearing on it. Take any give software project and start with today's requirements (as opposed to the initial requirement and all the mods done over the years) and the re-wr...
[23:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:C and C++ - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:57] <exec> 08└─I doubt that after 20 years of changes/updates/new featuers a rust or go program will look any better.
[23:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:C and C++ - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:59] <exec> 08└─The problem with C++ is that it keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger and...
[23:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:C and C++ - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:01] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but the good subset keeps getting more and more and more well defined.
[23:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Which language do you use?" - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:10] <exec> 08└─No, that's a touch of non-grey still in the beard. Languages? C And no, no git repo for you, I use rcs.
[23:10:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:"Which language do you use?" - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:12] <exec> 08└─Visit a coder bar
[23:10:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Which language do you use?" - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:14] <exec> 08└─Why indeed. I don't need to go to a bar to play "I'm My Own Grandpa" on the jukebox. I can build my own jukebox in my basement and masturbate alone.
[23:10:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:"Which language do you use?" - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:17] <exec> 08└─I want to visit a coder bar. Surely there is a sticky table under a broken lamp somewhere for us PHP lovers : P
[23:10:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hipster languages wowee - 06Eric S. Raymond: The Rust Programming Language Severely Disappoints - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:20] <exec> 08└─In approx. 3 years nobody will remember these even by name.
[23:10:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:I've got that beat... - 06If You Want to Earn More, Work Less - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:36] <exec> 08└─Instead of breaking out overtime separately, they fudge the hours: 200hours - 40 hours =160 hours 160 hours / 1.5 = 107 hours Total: 147 hours Leaving about 3 hours/night for sleep. The numbers make more sense if you get paid double/triple pay for over-time.
[23:10:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I've done more in a week but only for a few wee - 06If You Want to Earn More, Work Less - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:46] <exec> 08└─When your society values enthusiastic youthful ignorance above all else, sure, go ahead and waste your youth and spoil your ignorance by getting an education.
[23:10:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score:1) 02Re:I've done more in a week but only for a few wee - 06If You Want to Earn More, Work Less - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:47] <exec> 08└─Not if the assumptions of the guy I was replying to are true.
[23:10:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:...unless you're in Japan or USA - 06If You Want to Earn More, Work Less - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:53] <exec> 08└─Don't worry, once Uzzard there finishes his stint in Hell he's going to get reborn dirt poor. You fail the quizzes, you get stuck with the practical :D
[23:10:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:...? - 06If You Want to Earn More, Work Less - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:56] <exec> 08└─I came back with lynx as TFA was unreadable* with scripts enabled: “We actually find that people who take more time off — 11 days or more — are more likely to get a raise or bonus than people who take 10 or fewer days,” says Katie Denis, lead researcher at Project: Time Off...
[23:10:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:...? - 06If You Want to Earn More, Work Less - 544 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:58] <exec> 08└─Further down While trading rest for unpaid overtime is clearly a bad deal for employees, it’s actually pretty lousy for employers, too. A Stanford University study found that employee output declines sharply after 50 hours per week and nosedives after 56 hours to the poi...
[23:11:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Re:80 hours sounds pretty bad, right? - 06If You Want to Earn More, Work Less - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:11:01] <exec> 08└─IANAD, but does medical residents actually do any of the critical work that can mean life/death of a patient? I thought they just do all the menial stuff... at least that's what I see when I go to the ER..
[23:11:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:2) 02re Keep them separate - 06The Rewards of Advanced Agile and DevOps Adoption - 548 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:11:13] <exec> 08└─Then you get devs who have configured their infrastructure in such a manner that is not deployable because it breaks other services or applications in the production environment. As Thexalon [soylentnews.org] pointed out, the two fields are separate and unless you’re running a small organization,...
[23:11:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03rleigh [4887] (Score:2) 02Re:Doing it, or doing it right? - 06The Rewards of Advanced Agile and DevOps Adoption - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:11:19] <exec> 08└─I think this sums up pretty much every "Agile" organisation I've experienced or read about!
[23:11:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Security - 06The Rewards of Advanced Agile and DevOps Adoption - 1147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:11:23] <exec> 08└─Yes, agreed. It took me a long time but I now have the business including us security team in change management/project planning meetings (not their choice, some of them still insist that because its in the "cloud" the security team is not needed because its not the business's computers). I have man...
[23:11:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Not just SMBs - 06The Rewards of Advanced Agile and DevOps Adoption - 960 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:11:27] <exec> 08└─Not sure why the OP thinks it is just a hard sell to SMBs, it applies even in large organizations especially those where the IT reporting line is parked under the CFO or COO and is not a major contributor to the profit line. Why would they bother changing their highly cost efficient model of having...
[23:14:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Related creepy thought: - 06Book Review: 11/22/63, by Stephen King - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:30] <exec> 08└─Considering I'm pretty sure I was a man last time, that's...unlikely.
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