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[00:09:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm With Her - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:24] <exec> 08└─I used to use warpigs to take down Win95 boxes.
[00:09:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:I'm With Her - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:28] <exec> 08└─" Or you can go for comedy that if our inferior lapdogs who ask "how high?" when we tell them to jump, then electing a guy who wants to grab em by the pussy is extremely appropriate. "
[00:09:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Key quote from the article - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:39] <exec> 08└─You mean like the US?
[00:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Brexit Lite option - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 1503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:09:43] <exec> 08└─Here's an option that I read somewhere on the Guardian website: (it wasn't called "brexit lite" actually, I don't remember if it had a name) - The UK stays a proud, fully paid member of the EU (what?!, I hear you ask) - England and Wales split off from the UK and form a new country and negotiate at...
[00:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pfft, nothing to see here - 06Crew Member Pushes Wrong Button, Loses Nearly $5 Million in Weapons - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:54] <exec> 08└─Wooosh? No one died, it was a joke. Now that you've put me in the hammer business, everything looks like a nail.
[00:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:3 harpoons, 1 torp, some DC - 06Crew Member Pushes Wrong Button, Loses Nearly $5 Million in Weapons - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:01] <exec> 08└─Sounds like another chemically imbalanced AC posting random crap. I read 2600, along with other publications. I like making and breaking stuff. There's not really anyone else physically around me with similar interests, and it's refreshing to see things more interesting than "look I put LEDs on some...
[00:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03snufu [5855] (Score:2) 02Oblig Stimpy - 06Crew Member Pushes Wrong Button, Loses Nearly $5 Million in Weapons - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:10:13] <exec> 08└─"The shiny, CANDY-like button..."
[00:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:sawstop - 06Explosions that Save Lives - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:36] <exec> 08└─And also not mentioned are howitzers, recoil-less rifles, helicopter, and drone delivery of explosives for avalanche control [theinertia.com].
[00:10:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nasty Country! - 06Saudi Arabia Flogs, Jails Exploited Foreign Workers for Protest - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:55] <exec> 08└─That's actually backwards. When she was secretary of state, the saudis froze all donations. [politifact.com] But you know, facts, who needs those? Innuendo and unsupported cynicism are much more pleasing.
[00:10:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nasty Country! - 06Saudi Arabia Flogs, Jails Exploited Foreign Workers for Protest - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:59] <exec> 08└─Gee, she signed off on yet another saudi weapons contract, like all administrations have done for decades before. She's establishment, who would have guessed? Trump has said he wants the saudis to have their own nukes. [breitbart.com] Great plan!
[00:11:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't shoot the messenger - 06Saudi Arabia Flogs, Jails Exploited Foreign Workers for Protest - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:11:36] <exec> 08└─actions which of course are unrelated to the oppression they face from the evil Saudi government.
[00:11:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't shoot the messenger - 06Saudi Arabia Flogs, Jails Exploited Foreign Workers for Protest - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:11:37] <exec> 08└─I think you missed the sarcasm, and stopped reading halfway through the post.
[00:12:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Assinine - 06Open-source Plant Database Confirms Top US Bioenergy Crop - 1335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:12:09] <exec> 08└─Wind solar and hydro "feed the grid" - not as convenient as liquid fuel when you want to run a conventional vehicle like a truck or a ship, but good enough for trains... Evils of hydro: it consumes dry land, usually fertile and populated dry land, but always floods an area that used to be not underw...
[00:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Paid Online trolls ruining online discussion? - 06British Army Social Media Psyops Staff Struggling to Attract Fresh Blood - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:13:37] <exec> 08└─This is why the number of posts from new accounts should be limited, and why the number of posts from inactive accounts should also be limited.
[00:13:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:1) 02Re:One important question - 06Nearby Red Nova Predicted to be Visible in 2022 - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:13:54] <exec> 08└─If a star 2 AU away were to go nova, we wouldn't know it until ~16 minutes later.
[00:16:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This whole article is flamebait - 06Hate Crime Charges Filed Over Beating Live Streamed to Facebook - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:16:08] <exec> 08└─Reading comprehension fail. The dude shot up the airport is a Puerto Rican.
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[01:09:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Victory for Due Process - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:09:01] <exec> 08└─Innocent until proven Guilty, erring on the side of Not Guilty if the evidence is in doubt.
[01:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Key quote from the article - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 995 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:09:45] <exec> 08└─Once it progressed beyond the common market concept it sort of went off the rails in an orgy of governmental overreach. Not content to form a framework for common government, and let time handle the details, the EU charter tried to micromanage every aspect of life. That some countries to this day pa...
[01:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:sawstop - 06Explosions that Save Lives - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:36] <exec> 08└─I was expecting avalanche control near the top of the list...
[01:10:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:sawstop - 06Explosions that Save Lives - 360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:38] <exec> 08└─All in all, SawStop is not asking for unreasonable royalties - a single minor accident costs far more than the whole SawStop table saw. That they can't reach agreement with industrial tool suppliers is more of a failure of big industry to embrace change; change for the better, according to the thous...
[01:11:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Whoa now! - 06Saudi Arabia Flogs, Jails Exploited Foreign Workers for Protest - 469 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:11:11] <exec> 08└─Come on man, washington times? That's the moonies. You can't trust shit they say. ANd newsbusters? One step down from the moonies. Neither of those two sites have ever published a retraction. Not once. You expect us to believe they have never made a mistake? No, they are happy to let people keep bel...
[01:12:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''Wind kills birds'' - 06Open-source Plant Database Confirms Top US Bioenergy Crop - 806 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:12:11] <exec> 08└─It has been mentioned here multiple times that windows and cats are orders of magnitude more significant. Chart 1 [wikipedia.org] Chart 2 [googleusercontent.com] (orig) [thinkprogress.org] Solar uses large amounts of land Next time you fly into a city, look down at all the unused roof area that coul...
[01:14:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:the earth is not round - 06Space Race Movie "Hidden Figures" is a Must See - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:14:11] <exec> 08└─To quote wiki, she was reassigned to the Guidance and Control Division of Langley's Flight Research Division. However, Johnson and other African-American women in the computing pool were also identified as "colored computers" and subject to workplace segregation, working, eating and using restrooms...
[01:14:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And the article's author is ... - 06Space Race Movie "Hidden Figures" is a Must See - 1273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:14:33] <exec> 08└─I haven't bothered going to Arstechnica since about, oh, 2014 or so when it was revealed that Kyle Orland was the head of a mailing list called "Game Journo Pros." GJP, by Orland's own admission, was inspired by the "Journo List" controversy where it was revealed that journalists from many competing...
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[02:09:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Victory for Due Process - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:09:12] <exec> 08└─Oh don't worry. Accusation is Conviction. His life is finished. Will never work again. Might as well kill himself now.
[02:09:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Guilty as Shit! We all know it. - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:09:14] <exec> 08└─Children are easy to rape because they're small and weak and can't run fast on those little legs.
[02:09:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Better to drop than... - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:09:17] <exec> 08└─FBI (Yeah, I'm talking to you guys... I know there's at least 2 FBI agents reading this site)
[02:09:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Ugh. - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:09:20] <exec> 08└─So first the FBI RUNS a child porn website, then drops a case against some asshole child porn collector since they don't want to reveal how they caught him? They really are coming off as being just as bad.
[02:09:21] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03requerdanos [5997] 02So often goes this way - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 129 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:09:22] <exec> 08└─US District Judge Robert Bryan agreed, saying that unless the prosecution turned over the code, he'd have to dismiss the charges.
[02:09:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So often goes this way - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:09:24] <exec> 08└─To protect "our" rights, that is, us, mr. joe or ms. jane average individual, from overreach by governments and their agents, we often have to defend those rights as applied to people we'd perhaps rather see convicted.
[02:09:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Niggers - 06Samsung Expects Big Profit Despite Note 7 Crisis - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:09:32] <exec> 08└─Niggers will buy anything as long as welfare will pay for it.
[02:09:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Niggers - 06Samsung Expects Big Profit Despite Note 7 Crisis - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:09:34] <exec> 08└─Day like dat Apple Gold shell foam doe.
[02:10:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'm With Her - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:04] <exec> 08└─You only wish you could find a feisty cock grabber who doesn't want to twist your nuts off and make you eat them.
[02:10:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Key quote from the article - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:15] <exec> 08└─And yet, the Confederacy seems to have won just now. The Union fucked up; they should have cut those inbred moonshine-swilling sister-fucking toothless morons loose and left you to fend for themselves.
[02:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02more callow analysis - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 429 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:18] <exec> 08└─> So what sort of system makes it easy to join, but hard to leave? A trap. Or... a system where everybody is interdependent and leaving doesn't' just affect the leaver it affects everyone else so they are kinda fucking pissed you'd do that to them and no longer willing to cut you the same slack they...
[02:11:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Whoa now! - 06Saudi Arabia Flogs, Jails Exploited Foreign Workers for Protest - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:11:48] <exec> 08└─His "attorneys" are especially stretched for time and effort because they're filling in for his shrunken, atrophied penis. As the old saw goes: "This is my rifle, this is my gun, one is for shooting, the other fills me with self-loathing and bottomless, gnawing inadequacy."
[02:11:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Whoa now! - 06Saudi Arabia Flogs, Jails Exploited Foreign Workers for Protest - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:11:54] <exec> 08└─IIRC Runaway's lazy-agnostic. Unfortunately, this means he's taken the worst of the fundies' social "conservatism" (read: reactionary insanity) with the worst of that particular kind of motivated selfishness I see in all too many agnostics and atheists who've never actually studied religion in any d...
[02:12:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bioenergy makes America ggggreat! - 06Open-source Plant Database Confirms Top US Bioenergy Crop - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:12:48] <exec> 08└─*rolls eyes* If that's what it takes for the right to finally start thinking about renewable fuel sources (like mom nature's very own solar powered hydrocarbon factories), go for it.
[02:13:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:regarding the question - 06The Oldest Computer (Not) on Earth - 6 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:02] <exec> 08└─Moron.
[02:14:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:One important question - 06Nearby Red Nova Predicted to be Visible in 2022 - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:14:32] <exec> 08└─There's a star called the Sun that is only 1 AU away
[02:14:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:One important question - 06Nearby Red Nova Predicted to be Visible in 2022 - 493 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:14:33] <exec> 08└─Actually, the name of that star is "Sol". But yes, you are quite correct! So what I meant to say is that the commentor could not have meant 2 AU, because then ours would be a binary solar system, and quite probably headed for a violent death in a red nova!! Hypothetical conversation: "Haven't you n...
[02:15:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Shitposting by TGV - 06Space Race Movie "Hidden Figures" is a Must See - 949 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:15:14] <exec> 08└─Jesus christ how did you get a +5 for that drivel? First you complain about some minor hyperbole that would only be noticed by the most hypersensitive. Why is that only a problem when it comes to positive portrayals of minorities? Have you ever once made a similar nitpicky criticism in any other con...
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[03:09:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Fair use - 06GMO Grass That 'Escaped' Defies Eradication, Divides Grass Seed Industry - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:09:13] <exec> 08└─I seem to remember some stories about farmers growing corn or soybeans or something (or both!) without paying royalties for roundup readiness and getting sued into oblivion (or compliance). It seems like this would be a great case for someone to sue for the right to use these things when they blow...
[03:09:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02too big to fail? - 06GMO Grass That 'Escaped' Defies Eradication, Divides Grass Seed Industry - 971 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:09:14] <exec> 08└─Damage occurs. Responsible party pays according to the damage inflicted, or even better, restores the original situation at his expense. Oh we sell GMO but they escaped and now ruin people whose business is guess what Non GMOs? You should sell the GMO at the right price to get insurance and offset t...
[03:09:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Terminator Gene - 06GMO Grass That 'Escaped' Defies Eradication, Divides Grass Seed Industry - 405 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:09:16] <exec> 08└─So if they can't ethically put in a terminator gene, the least they could do is put in extra susceptibility to some form of herbicide. Farmers who want the stuff can spray round-up, but farmers who dodn't want the stuff can spray an herbicide that doesn't normally kill grass. Of course that doesn't...
[03:09:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03zeigerpuppy [1298] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Guilty as Shit! We all know it. - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 492 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:28] <exec> 08└─A NIT is essentially malware that gets installed on a target's computer. If you can install a NIT, it's trivial to plant incriminating material too. I'm not saying he's innocent but there's a pretty good argument from his defence that the images may have been tampered. The problem with using intrusi...
[03:09:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Victory for Due Process - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 1006 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:31] <exec> 08└─Is he? They found pictures on his computer, but they have to prove that the pictures were there and weren't the result of tampering. Whether or not he's actually guilty, his life is pretty much over and he'll never work in education again. Which is fine if he's actually guilty, but if the FBI put th...
[03:09:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Ugh. - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:36] <exec> 08└─Child porn should always remain illegal! Because reasons!
[03:09:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Defending scoundrels - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:40] <exec> 08└─The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one’s time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. — H.L. Mencken
[03:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03mattTheOne [1788] (Score:1) 02Surprised by due process - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 457 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:09:42] <exec> 08└─This must be a white dude. When I went to court, I noticed the judge looks at the defendant, see he's black and decides he's guilty regardless of the evidence or legality of obtained evidence. I can definitely see the concern here, lets say the police found 1TB of illegal material, was it planted by...
[03:09:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Re:Hollywood Hacking - 06With No Losses, "Free Ross" Regains Control of Hacked Accounts - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:59] <exec> 08└─Replacing security–via–obscurity with security–via–dyscalculia?
[03:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Key quote from the article - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:36] <exec> 08└─So what sort of system makes it easy to join, but hard to leave?
[03:10:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02To be fair - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:42] <exec> 08└─To be fair and democratic about all of this we should let other countries tear themselves up then too. Spain will end up being 3-4 countries. Belgium will be two. France will get nibbled at the edges because of Spain and may well chop the remainder. Italy, at least 3 bits etc. Everyone has their...
[03:10:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03nethead [4970] (Score:2) 02Re:Brexit Lite option - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:44] <exec> 08└─Stop it! Now you're just being sensible.
[03:10:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Pfft, nothing to see here - 06Crew Member Pushes Wrong Button, Loses Nearly $5 Million in Weapons - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:55] <exec> 08└─Gotta be somebodies brother in law to supply million dollar hammers.
[03:11:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Re:3 harpoons, 1 torp, some DC - 06Crew Member Pushes Wrong Button, Loses Nearly $5 Million in Weapons - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:11:02] <exec> 08└─Exactly. I've got a nice little mostly–complete library of issues going back to around 2000, even like to re–read the older ones every so often as a reminder of things have changed — and my naughty bits assure me that I'm quite definitely female, gender stereotypes be damned.
[03:11:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Happens more often then you think... - 06Crew Member Pushes Wrong Button, Loses Nearly $5 Million in Weapons - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:11:05] <exec> 08└─Don't worry, with the current state of perpetual war they can rotate through all the old stock before it expires.
[03:12:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Whoa now! - 06Saudi Arabia Flogs, Jails Exploited Foreign Workers for Protest - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:12:10] <exec> 08└─And this is why Runaway is fake news. All fake news, all the time, 25/8! Maybe Runaway is a Moonie? He was in the Navy. . . ever make a port call in South Korea? Hmmm. There are Moonies in very strange places. https://www.theguardian.com [theguardian.com]
[03:12:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why do people still work there? - 06Saudi Arabia Flogs, Jails Exploited Foreign Workers for Protest - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:12:37] <exec> 08└─> Even money can't compensate for the risk of being treated like a real modern-day slave I take it you've never had to live on the equivalent of 20 cents a day. When you are dirt poor, uneducated, unskilled in a country with no social safety net, two hots and cot will sound pretty decent to many.
[03:12:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Once bitten twice shy - 06Monoprice Unveils Expanded Line of 3D Printers at CES 2017 - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:12:51] <exec> 08└─In order to make it easier to use they'd have to make it noticeably more expensive. Features cost money.
[03:14:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Not quite - 06New Analysis of Swedish Police Report Confirms Julian Assange's Version in Sweden's Case - 854 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:14:26] <exec> 08└─This article would have been a lot better if the author hadn't analyzed & approached the entire thing from the outset with the intention of finding some way to exonerate Assange and with an open bias against what he considers "feminism." I'm not against Assange, but any decent analysis should be cle...
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[04:09:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:too big to fail? - 06GMO Grass That 'Escaped' Defies Eradication, Divides Grass Seed Industry - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:09:12] <exec> 08└─^^ that right there. Scotts should be liable for all damages, period. If it means they are bankrupted, and put out of business, so be it. Investors? Tough shit - you should have invested in something safer.
[04:09:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:2) 02Re:Terminator Gene - 06GMO Grass That 'Escaped' Defies Eradication, Divides Grass Seed Industry - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:09:15] <exec> 08└─...and after it interbreeds with other grasses, they *all* have the terminator gene. It makes the follow up product of "won't be accidentally eradicated by terminator gene" all that much more appealing.
[04:09:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03fadrian [3194] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Just fucking great... - 06GMO Grass That 'Escaped' Defies Eradication, Divides Grass Seed Industry - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:09:17] <exec> 08└─All just so a bunch of stupid cunts can whack their balls all over the place.
[04:09:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just fucking great... - 06GMO Grass That 'Escaped' Defies Eradication, Divides Grass Seed Industry - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:09:19] <exec> 08└─Golfers may be stupid, but many of them are part of what I call "the country club set" also knows as the old boys club and more recently the 1%. In many communities these rich guys (maybe a few rich gals too?) call the shots behind the scenes. Of course a big company like Scotts would love to have t...
[04:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03black6host [3827] (Score:2) 02Re:Victory for Due Process - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 753 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:09:34] <exec> 08└─I have a friend whose ex accused him of molesting her children. The local newspaper reported that he had been arrested and confessed. He had made no confession. This was front page news. He was self employed and it hurt his business. A few days later a retraction in the paper was made. In the back,...
[04:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score:2) 02Re:Better to drop than... - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 469 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:09:38] <exec> 08└─But don't they already have that? They proved he was a pedo through good old fashioned raiding his personal home computer physically. Maybe I missed something, but it sounds like they are saying that even that is deemed invalid if the reason they suspected him in the first place is because of potent...
[04:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03mattTheOne [1788] (Score:1) 02Defies expectations - 06Samsung Expects Big Profit Despite Note 7 Crisis - 451 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:09:53] <exec> 08└─I'm surprised they're making money, all of their business is in commodity markets, TVs, phones, memory. These things are all just appliances with no differentiating features. When I buy a TV or phone , I don't care if its Samsung or LG or Seiki. Same with my DRAM, as long as it matches specs I 'll t...
[04:10:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Germany said no - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:10:45] <exec> 08└─Germany just said no to Bavaria http://www.express.co.uk [express.co.uk] . And what Germany says, EU applies to everyone. So no splitting. Only crushing. For more info https://en.wikipedia.org
[04:10:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Brexit zero - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 744 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:10:48] <exec> 08└─There is also the Brexit zero option: - Admit everything was a farce, with no plan, just lies by everyone. - Start working for the well being of EU citizens, not the companies and not foreigns. No idea which of them is "more" impossible (you know, like "bigger" infinity when resolving some math prob...
[04:12:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03KiloByte [375] (Score:2) 02Re:Whoa now! - 06Saudi Arabia Flogs, Jails Exploited Foreign Workers for Protest - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:12:24] <exec> 08└─There are in fact millions of muslims named jesus. [wikipedia.org]
[04:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:regarding the question - 06The Oldest Computer (Not) on Earth - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:39] <exec> 08└─While your point is well taken, I feel something is "off" about it. I think it is laying everything at Microsoft's feet. I suspect that Redhat borked Gnu/Linux without Microsoft's explicit help.
[04:15:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:One important question - 06Nearby Red Nova Predicted to be Visible in 2022 - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:15:06] <exec> 08└─I hate it when Jupiter spontaneously barrels towards Earth and bypasses the brown dwarf limit, undergoing nuclear fusion and then a nova. I blame Planet Nine.
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[05:09:12] <exec> 08└─the artist/inventor worked with this studio -- interesting artworks http://www.hyphen-labs.com [hyphen-labs.com]
[05:09:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02anti-surveillance garb - 06Anti-Surveillance Clothing - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:09:14] <exec> 08└─Ninja garb, or for the advanced agent, everyone's favorite- the birthday suit.
[05:09:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:anti-surveillance garb - 06Anti-Surveillance Clothing - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:09:16] <exec> 08└─or for the advanced agent, everyone's favorite- the birthday suit
[05:09:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02You can make videos of you illegal - 06Anti-Surveillance Clothing - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:09:18] <exec> 08└─If you don't want people keeping footage of you, and make looking at you or said footage illegal, you can do it. Just cover yourself in child porn.
[05:09:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Terminator Gene - 06GMO Grass That 'Escaped' Defies Eradication, Divides Grass Seed Industry - 357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:09:30] <exec> 08└─Who says they can't ethically put the terminator gene in there? The issue with the terminator gene is that Monsanto was using it as a means of forcing farmers to buy new seed year after year. Personally, I think that it ought to be mandatory for any and all GMO for the very reason that it makes prob...
[05:09:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Terminator Gene - 06GMO Grass That 'Escaped' Defies Eradication, Divides Grass Seed Industry - 544 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:09:31] <exec> 08└─I know of a farmer (I rented a house on his farm) who has Roundup-resistant annual Ryegrass growing in his fields. He's never planted RR-ready seed (it's banned in the Willamette Valley). Annual Ryegrass is pretty persistent... Luckily, it's in a field he usually grew wheat or perennial rye grass in...
[05:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Lies and more Lies - 06GMO Grass That 'Escaped' Defies Eradication, Divides Grass Seed Industry - 554 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:09:35] <exec> 08└─So, the GMO industries have claimed at various times that their crops can't just pop up if they weren't deliberately planted and that their added traits can't just find their way into another variety. They've even used that to sue people for patent violations. It seems none of that is true. Meanwhil...
[05:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03black6host [3827] (Score:2) 02Re:Better to drop than... - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:09:54] <exec> 08└─Sure, he may have been a pedo. But the means don't justify the end if you wish to maintain our constitutional rights. Some will get away with it but the goal is to protect the innocent. Use legal means of investigation is you're gong to pursue that. Otherwise, they can fuck off.
[05:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Better to drop than... - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 1258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:09:56] <exec> 08└─The issue is there was no legal justification to raid his computer in the first place so whatever they get from that is inadmissible. That's the whole point 'parallel construction'. They find out somebody is guilty through unlawful, if not illegal, means and then try to get that same proof in a lega...
[05:09:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:Better to drop than... - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:09:58] <exec> 08└─I wonder who some of these out-of-nowhere editors are, being some have joined with little to no history of comments or submissions. They can see IPs on every post.
[05:10:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Defending scoundrels - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:10:05] <exec> 08└─Only a true scoundrel would keep child porn illegal.
[05:12:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score:2) 02Missing cool example .. - 06Explosions that Save Lives - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:12:02] <exec> 08└─Using explosives to extinguish oil well fires. The blast use up all the oxygen in the area around the well head and the fire gets snuffed out.
[05:13:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Hard landing or hard "landing" - 06Saudi Arabia Flogs, Jails Exploited Foreign Workers for Protest - 656 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:00] <exec> 08└─Do you mean hard landing or crash? We can have soft landing, hard landing or crash. Some of the greenies talk about it... some even seem to want that crash, without realizing it could mean The End directly, or Humankind staying away from Space Era forever, back to Middle Ages at best, until somethin...
[05:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Assinine - 06Open-source Plant Database Confirms Top US Bioenergy Crop - 338 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:35] <exec> 08└─> Evils of hydro: it consumes dry land... A big dam and artificial lake are true in many hydro installations, but not all. For example Niagara Falls hydro just takes water from above the Falls. There is a small pond that stores water overnight (the falls almost stops when tourists are gone) and then...
[05:15:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Paid Online trolls ruining online discussion? - 06British Army Social Media Psyops Staff Struggling to Attract Fresh Blood - 1430 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:15:08] <exec> 08└─So you end up in a situation where you think you are engaging in a rational debate, when in fact you are "debating" with someone who isn't interested in the truth, or of perhaps changing their opinion in light of evidence. Instead they are paid to push a narrative against reality, in order to sway o...
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[06:09:14] <exec> 08└─You trade full body coverage for tactical velocity and automatic triggering of human disgust.
[06:09:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02QR Code clothing... - 06Anti-Surveillance Clothing - 458 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:17] <exec> 08└─I've often wondered what would happen walking into a chain store like Target or Walmart wearing a jacket with a bunch of QR Codes at different scales on it, made to look more or less like US "digital" camo patterns, with the hope that a cheap Costco surveillance system somehow picks up on them and c...
[06:09:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Terminator Gene - 06GMO Grass That 'Escaped' Defies Eradication, Divides Grass Seed Industry - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:09:30] <exec> 08└─If grass had a terminator gene then you'd be forced to constantly replant it year after year. Though some people seem to do that anyway...
[06:09:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Terminator Gene - 06GMO Grass That 'Escaped' Defies Eradication, Divides Grass Seed Industry - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:09:32] <exec> 08└─I see no problem with that. If you want grass that lasts more than one year, get something that isn't GMO.
[06:09:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03sjames [2882] 02Lies and more Lies - 06GMO Grass That 'Escaped' Defies Eradication, Divides Grass Seed Industry - 554 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:37] <exec> 08└─So, the GMO industries have claimed at various times that their crops can't just pop up if they weren't deliberately planted and that their added traits can't just find their way into another variety. They've even used that to sue people for patent violations. It seems none of that is true. Meanwhil...
[06:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lies and more Lies - 06GMO Grass That 'Escaped' Defies Eradication, Divides Grass Seed Industry - 1011 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:09:39] <exec> 08└─That's been known for a very long time now. It's been years since these sorts of stories started popping up, and that's just when the stories started popping up, the problem is much older. And, anybody with a lick of common sense would have seen this coming. Unless you alter the genome to such an ex...
[06:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:Guilty as Shit! We all know it. - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:09:52] <exec> 08└─If you can install a NIT, it's trivial to plant incriminating material too.
[06:09:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03black6host [3827] 02Re:Victory for Due Process - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 753 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:09:55] <exec> 08└─I have a friend whose ex accused him of molesting her children. The local newspaper reported that he had been arrested and confessed. He had made no confession. This was front page news. He was self employed and it hurt his business. A few days later a retraction in the paper was made. In the back,...
[06:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Defending scoundrels - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:10:08] <exec> 08└─Hi Aristarchus, nice to see you're coming out of the pedo-cabinet.
[06:11:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03lx [1915] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Key quote from the article - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:11:04] <exec> 08└─It's easy to leave the EU. The problem is that the May government wants to leave and retain all the advantages of EU membership. Of course the rest of Europe isn't going along with that plan.
[06:12:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Whoa now! - 06Saudi Arabia Flogs, Jails Exploited Foreign Workers for Protest - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:12:50] <exec> 08└─IIRC Runaway's lazy-agnostic.
[06:12:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Whoa now! - 06Saudi Arabia Flogs, Jails Exploited Foreign Workers for Protest - 568 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:12:52] <exec> 08└─No, it means I believe I remember him mentioning he's an agnostic, but based on his posting history he knows less about religion and theology than, for example, the average sea slug does of piloting the F-22 Raptor. In other words, he isn't an agnostic for any actual principled or well-thought-out r...
[06:12:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Whoa now! - 06Saudi Arabia Flogs, Jails Exploited Foreign Workers for Protest - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:12:55] <exec> 08└─Which is to say, they would be, if you took the circuituous route from $SEMITIC_LANGUAGE to Greek to Latin to English. Ye(ho)shua --> Iesou --> Iesus --> Jesus, more or less. I'm very glad to see someone else on here knows he was plain ol' Josh :D
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[07:09:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02How to approach anonymous sources news overage? - 06Read the news like a spy - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:09:04] <exec> 08└─Just be at in front of the Ecuadorian embassy when them journalists start speaking, haven't you leaned from the near past? (grin)
[07:09:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02late 2 the game - 06Read the news like a spy - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:09:06] <exec> 08└─https://theintercept.com/2015/04/16/welcome-unofficial-sources/ [theintercept.com]
[07:09:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03archfeld [4650] (Score:2) 02Just make up things - 06Read the news like a spy - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:09:08] <exec> 08└─We should, in the absence of real facts just make stuff up, it seemed to work for Hillary, Trump and the rest of the shit biscuits in office...
[07:09:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03archfeld [4650] (Score:2) 02Not a big fan of Apple - 06Apple's Profit Slump Means a Pay Cut for Tim Cook - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:09:15] <exec> 08└─I am not a big fan of Apple, hardware or their walled garden approach to software, but a CEO's pay based on company performance rather than how much venture capital it lost is refreshing, and that took 'courage'.
[07:09:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:anti-surveillance garb - 06Anti-Surveillance Clothing - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:26] <exec> 08└─Ninja garb, or
[07:09:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:You can make videos of you illegal - 06Anti-Surveillance Clothing - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:29] <exec> 08└─How about a spandex birthday suit that looks a lot better than yours? Betcha that one would get a helluva lot of attention at the mall! I can see them trying to nail one with "indecent exposure", when one is completely covered with something featuring a much-improved print of what it is covering up....
[07:09:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:You can make videos of you illegal - 06Anti-Surveillance Clothing - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:31] <exec> 08└─completely covered with something featuring a much-improved print of what it is covering up... Ummm... what?... an improved hamburger-and-beer belly? (mmmm.... baaacooon) (grin)
[07:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Fair use - 06GMO Grass That 'Escaped' Defies Eradication, Divides Grass Seed Industry - 1869 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:41] <exec> 08└─This was when I was a kid, but my Grandpa had run-ins with Monsanto over his corn crop. My Grandpa did farming as he learned from his father, and so on, as it had been done since the land was given to my ancestors in exchange for them colonizing the area and growing food crops. For eons, the farmer...
[07:09:42] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Bot [3902] 02too big to fail? - 06GMO Grass That 'Escaped' Defies Eradication, Divides Grass Seed Industry - 971 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:09:43] <exec> 08└─Damage occurs. Responsible party pays according to the damage inflicted, or even better, restores the original situation at his expense. Oh we sell GMO but they escaped and now ruin people whose business is guess what Non GMOs? You should sell the GMO at the right price to get insurance and offset t...
[07:10:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03zeigerpuppy [1298] 02Re:Guilty as Shit! We all know it. - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 492 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:07] <exec> 08└─A NIT is essentially malware that gets installed on a target's computer. If you can install a NIT, it's trivial to plant incriminating material too. I'm not saying he's innocent but there's a pretty good argument from his defence that the images may have been tampered. The problem with using intrusi...
[07:11:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Jacobite revival? - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:11:29] <exec> 08└─If so, then it looks like the dreams of the Jacobite cause may finally come to pass, and a new king of the Stuart Dynasty from the line of Charles I may sit on the throne of the United Kingdom of Scotland and Northern Ireland, possibly Francis II [wikipedia.org].
[07:13:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Whoa now! - 06Saudi Arabia Flogs, Jails Exploited Foreign Workers for Protest - 2121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:13:09] <exec> 08└─Wow, just recently I posted some things in a journal of jdavidb that I thought might cause consternation. No true libertarian can be Christian, since believing in a deity implies acknowledging the absolute power of said deity and your complete and total submission. God can take all your shit, includ...
[07:16:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03TGV [2838] (Score:2) 02Re:Shitposting by TGV - 06Space Race Movie "Hidden Figures" is a Must See - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:16:34] <exec> 08└─> If you think having to walk fifteen minutes is not a small insult in the context of racism at the time then you know nothing of all the other indignities black folks suffered from. I think it's a fucking BIG insult, and beyond that, Anonymous Coward who can't even read properly.
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[08:09:09] <exec> 08└─How could you say that about (Trump|Hillary)? (Hillary|Trump) was clearly the liar and (Trump|Hillary) (will|would have) (make America great again|restored sanity).
[08:09:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Division of labour - 06Read the news like a spy - 1694 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:09:11] <exec> 08└─Oh, how ignorant the average citizen is! It is partly the fault of the "intelligence" agencies themselfs: A real intelligence agency is tasked to gather information: that is what "intelligence" is. If this agency either slants that information, or decides to use it for some political end, it is no...
[08:09:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Division of labour - 06Read the news like a spy - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:13] <exec> 08└─Conclusion One: The United States has never had an actual intelligence agency.
[08:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02Re:You can make videos of you illegal - 06Anti-Surveillance Clothing - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:35] <exec> 08└─Truss. Corset. Support hose. *then* add the paint/decoration.. and the merkin!
[08:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:You can make videos of you illegal - 06Anti-Surveillance Clothing - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:36] <exec> 08└─Truss. Corset. Support hose.
[08:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:Just fucking great... - 06GMO Grass That 'Escaped' Defies Eradication, Divides Grass Seed Industry - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:57] <exec> 08└─Isn't that what the Internet is for?
[08:10:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03charon [5660] (Score:1) 02Re:Better to drop than... - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:23] <exec> 08└─Actually we can't. We only see a hash of the IP, which is usually consistent for a particular user. Maybe the site admins can, though I've never asked. But of course, that's what an FBI agent would say...
[08:11:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Key quote from the article - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:24] <exec> 08└─Check the tax reporting obligations of a person who changes his nationality from USian. You have to report Your earnings to the Creepy Uncle Sam for quite a long while, if memory serves, even despite being no longer a citizen.
[08:11:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:To be fair - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:35] <exec> 08└─Free Montana! Keep the nukes! Keep out the Trumpsters!
[08:11:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:Brexit zero - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:38] <exec> 08└─Demographic genocide is the goal of the ruling class.
[08:15:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Burz [6156] (Score:1) 02IIRC, the 2nd prosecutor who revived the 'case' - 06New Analysis of Swedish Police Report Confirms Julian Assange's Version in Sweden's Case - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:15:26] <exec> 08└─...was appointed by Sweden's so-called "Ronald Reagan of Europe" who employed Karl Rove as his political strategist. Essentially America-Uber-Alles sycophants. Apart from her, the only one who wanted to press charges was the one "victim" who worked for the CIA. So the US gov't was paycheck and oppor...
[08:16:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:One important question - 06Nearby Red Nova Predicted to be Visible in 2022 - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:16:02] <exec> 08└─actually laughing out loud here, trying to be discreet and it's hard thanks aristarchus
[08:16:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:One important question - 06Nearby Red Nova Predicted to be Visible in 2022 - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:16:04] <exec> 08└─This is so exciting - thank you! Maybe our youngest will have a peek if they are rural and be inspired to greatness!
[08:16:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02FTFY - 06Nearby Red Nova Predicted to be Visible in 2022 - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:16:08] <exec> 08└─> particular observation time is relevant particular observation time and place are relevant (thanks for your post excellent thank you this is why soylent is quality - just one nitpick)
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[09:09:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Had designed something and implemented shit - 06Researchers Create Sponge-Like Configuration of Graphene Stronger and Lighter Than Steel - 749 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:09:12] <exec> 08└─All they did: 1. built a model of porous graphene/graphene aerogel - a good bunch of Monte Carlo thrown into the mixture 2. checked the model against the results obtained experimentally by others 3. based on the predictions of their model (or just handwavium), 3D printed a porous macrostructure (wit...
[09:09:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:Just make up things - 06Read the news like a spy - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:09:23] <exec> 08└─It was always this way. Started thousands of years ago, when humans invented religion.
[09:09:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Division of labour - 06Read the news like a spy - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:09:27] <exec> 08└─Point being, once intel is used for some strategic or tactical purpose, it is, for all purposes, no longer an intelligence operation.
[09:09:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Division of labour - 06Read the news like a spy - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:09:29] <exec> 08└─Aristarchus detected, with medium-high certainty.
[09:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:QR Code clothing... - 06Anti-Surveillance Clothing - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:09:53] <exec> 08└─But, sir, I didn't know that URL was porn. Or the previous one. Or the one before that. Look, we have to be thourough. Better safe than sorry! Now, if you will excuse me, I have many more Q codes to scan
[09:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Just fucking great... - 06GMO Grass That 'Escaped' Defies Eradication, Divides Grass Seed Industry - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:10:14] <exec> 08└─We ought to ban that too!
[09:10:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Victory for Due Process - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:10:28] <exec> 08└─Similar software in Germany was shown to contain code to plant evidence on the suspects computer. When a judge tells the police to demonstrate that they are not breaking the law, and they rush to withdraw the case, you shouldn't trust ANY evidence they have touched. Evidence can be planted or faked.
[09:10:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Better to drop than... - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:10:41] <exec> 08└─FBI: Your honor, the evidence clearly shows that the accused is guilty. Judge: Please demonstrate that you did not plant the evidence. FBI: Err... We withdraw the case.
[09:10:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So often goes this way - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:10:49] <exec> 08└─But just watch, what you just said will be twisted into you supporting ...
[09:11:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Key quote from the article - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:11:46] <exec> 08└─And yet, the Confederacy seems to have won just now.
[09:11:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Key quote from the article - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:11:48] <exec> 08└─You have to report Your earnings to the Creepy Uncle Sam for quite a long while, if memory serves, even despite being no longer a citizen.
[09:11:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:more callow analysis - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:11:52] <exec> 08└─Or... a system where everybody is interdependent and leaving doesn't' just affect the leaver it affects everyone else so they are kinda fucking pissed you'd do that to them and no longer willing to cut you the same slack they would for someone who hadn't just kicked them in the balls.
[09:11:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Key quote from the article - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:11:56] <exec> 08└─The problem is that the May government wants to leave and retain all the advantages of EU membership.
[09:12:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:Brexit zero - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 2219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:12:07] <exec> 08└─Your option would be the most sane one, I think, but that ship has sailed now. However, if you think about the "attitude" of the EU (which is some kind of Gestalt of its constituent states) then the balance between "for the well being of EU citizens" and "for the well being of multinational corporat...
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[10:09:05] <exec> 08└─I agree the headline is very misleading. They have created nothing but a model although it should be said this is how many great breakthroughs begin. I still hope they discover a method for something that can be 3d printed. Revolutionary would not quite cover it. A long ways off if ever...
[10:09:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How to approach anonymous sources news overage? - 06Read the news like a spy - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:09:14] <exec> 08└─Psst, wanna hear something funny?
[10:09:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How to approach anonymous sources news overage? - 06Read the news like a spy - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:09:16] <exec> 08└─I'm not gonna listen political jokes from somebody I don't know tovarishchy.
[10:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:anti-surveillance garb - 06Anti-Surveillance Clothing - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:09:43] <exec> 08└─Yes, I am happy to see you. Can't you tell?
[10:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02Re:You can make videos of you illegal - 06Anti-Surveillance Clothing - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:09:49] <exec> 08└─You notice that all the models for this face paint and hair do are young and, realtively, good-looking? Maybe the designers have watched too many movies, where only the pretty young things are the ones who have to hide. The old and ugly in these movies are just bad, mad, or soon-to-die. So the over...
[10:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:You can make videos of you illegal - 06Anti-Surveillance Clothing - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:09:51] <exec> 08└─So the over 40's are really not the target market for this stuff!
[10:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02A Scanner Darkly (2006) - 06Anti-Surveillance Clothing - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:09:56] <exec> 08└─Soon we'll need to wear "A Scanner Darkly (2006) " style scramble suit to conceals our identities from the singularity.
[10:11:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score:2) 02Re:Defies expectations - 06Samsung Expects Big Profit Despite Note 7 Crisis - 723 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:11:03] <exec> 08└─Ehm, samsung electronics is also the semi-conductor arm of samsung - which is one of the largest OEMs/parts-mfg in the world (arm-cpus, ram, sd-cards, optical drives, led/tft/lcd screens, batteries and so on), and it also is their home appliances arm (dishwashers, microwaves, air-air heatexchangers...
[10:11:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Key quote from the article - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:11:55] <exec> 08└─The EU has some fine company.
[10:12:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:Brexit zero - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 927 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:12:09] <exec> 08└─The best outcome would be for the UK to leave the EU but remain in the single market, kind of like Norway. Get all the benefits but have no means of sabotaging the project any more. Unfortunately it looks like we are going to try to negotiate a hard Brexit, which is impossible. The timescale makes i...
[10:12:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score:2) 02Re:Brexit Lite option - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 428 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:12:12] <exec> 08└─You missed one small point. The lads down in the Republic are not so sure they want the north anymore. That place is a big bottomless pit that suck up money. Have you seen the levels of unemployment there? Maybe in 50 years, true, but not now. We don't _really_ want a united Ireland at this point in...
[10:16:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Red nova - 06Nearby Red Nova Predicted to be Visible in 2022 - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:16:44] <exec> 08└─Red nova, red nova, send death rays all over.
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[11:09:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03WizardFusion [498] (Score:2, Disagree) 02Bullshit - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:09:06] <exec> 08└─21. Run Linux on your systems. When I first hooked my father up with a computer system, I barely got home before his system was infested with viruses. I returned and installed Linux on his system and he has been running it ever since.
[11:09:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 022 ways - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:09:08] <exec> 08└─1. Don't attract attention from TPTB 2. Throw your surveillance (networking) devices into the dump and live under a bridge
[11:09:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02First part is incomplete - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 576 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:09:10] <exec> 08└─1. Backup your data. If you get hit with ransomware, you don't have to pay if you have backups. That's only part of it. Yes, backing up your data is a good and important advice. However you don't know whether a ransomware already started encrypting your files in the background, so you also should ma...
[11:09:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02systemd - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:09:12] <exec> 08└─9. Take advantage of systemd tools to help secure your services.
[11:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02Re:You can make videos of you illegal - 06Anti-Surveillance Clothing - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:03] <exec> 08└─And you can get *alot* of QR codes on larger people..
[11:11:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm With Her - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:11:46] <exec> 08└─It's more like "people who have a small amount of respect for other human beings don't joke about their power and wealth allowing them to sexually assault their genitals without resistance or consequence".
[11:12:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Key quote from the article - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:12:09] <exec> 08└─> Of course the rest of Europe isn't going along with that plan. That would be incredibly stupid and childish. The single market is benefiting them too.
[11:14:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lester [6231] (Score:1) 02Re:Hard landing or hard "landing" - 06Saudi Arabia Flogs, Jails Exploited Foreign Workers for Protest - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:21] <exec> 08└─Some of the greenies talk about it... some even seem to want that crash
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[12:09:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03dlb [4790] (Score:2) 02Re:Bullshit - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:09:15] <exec> 08└─As long as you have proper protection you should be fine on any OS.
[12:09:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:2 ways - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:09:17] <exec> 08└─1. Don't attract attention from TPTB 2. Throw your surveillance (networking) devices into the dump and live under a bridge
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[13:09:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What if... - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:09:09] <exec> 08└─What if I wrap my smart phone thingy in aluminum foil? Can the revenuers read my mind through it now?
[13:09:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Disable Javascript - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:09:11] <exec> 08└─Just disable it. There you go.
[13:09:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Oakenshield [4900] (Score:1) 02Run in a VM - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:09:13] <exec> 08└─Run you Tor in a VM and don't configure a sound device.
[13:09:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02alexa - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:09:15] <exec> 08└─"Alexa, enter Tor drug mode."
[13:09:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmoschner [3296] (Score:2) 02Cheap Speakers - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:09:17] <exec> 08└─Can most cheap speakers even produce audio in that range? Even if they could, can't you add a software or hardware filter to remove ultrasonic sounds from the line to the speakers?
[13:09:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02sheesh - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:09:20] <exec> 08└─If you have untrusted programs accessing microphone, your security has bigger problems than someone snooping just tor.
[13:09:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Cool but - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:09:22] <exec> 08└─Why would my phone or laptop just send information to this tracking site on it's own. Are they forgetting the much harder task of getting malware on every single phone and laptop in existence?
[13:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Oakenshield [4900] (Score:1) 02Re:First part is incomplete - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 393 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:09:34] <exec> 08└─1. Backup your data. If you get hit with ransomware, you don't have to pay if you have backups. That's only part of it. Yes, backing up your data is a good and important advice. However you don't know whether a ransomware already started encrypting your files in the background, so you also should ma...
[13:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Yeah, - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:09:36] <exec> 08└─Stay off the internet!
[13:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Time-to-secure? - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:09:39] <exec> 08└─6. Run applications in the SELinux Sandbox whenever possible--it was a container before containers were cool. Also follow the development of Flatpack, which soon should be developing sandboxing capabilities.
[13:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02double , errr, glove? - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:09:41] <exec> 08└─So perhaps we can't trust anything? But I have settled on double firewalls isolating the LAN from the WAN, and using VPN's in between. Yup. no clear text. One of my research machines the wonderful university left it on the open internet...!! Fortunatelly, UFW (unix firewall?) under ubuntu was simple...
[13:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Clever - 06Read the news like a spy - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:10:06] <exec> 08└─An Anonymous Coward writes
[13:11:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Better to drop than... - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:27] <exec> 08└─> We only see a hash of the IP How can someone say stupid shit like this unless they are a complete ignoramus without any clue of computer science, programming, mathematics and basic logic? There are only 4 billion IP addresses, if you have a HASH of the IP address you HAVE the IP address!!!!
[13:12:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Re:you gotta credit the guy - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:12:46] <exec> 08└─"Popular vote is wrong"
[13:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:sawstop - 06Explosions that Save Lives - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:51] <exec> 08└─Yeah the problem is the company founder is a patent lawyer (literally) so you can assume bad faith right from the start. a failure of big industry to embrace change
[13:13:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03J_Darnley [5679] (Score:1) 02Fighter jets - 06Explosions that Save Lives - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:55] <exec> 08└─> cockpits of fighter jets > Strapping into a fighter cockpit is literally sitting on top of a rocket Oh, in this case "literally" means its opposite of "figuratively". Jets are not rockets.
[13:15:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kilo110 [2853] (Score:2) 02Re:don't trust it - 06Monoprice Unveils Expanded Line of 3D Printers at CES 2017 - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:15:12] <exec> 08└─My friend bought one of those 200 dollar printers. I personally haven't tried it. But he seems to like it. No issues as far as I know.
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[14:09:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Re:Disable Javascript - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 1301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:28] <exec> 08└─This is both true, and an answer that really pisses me off. (note: not slamming parent poster - just expressing frustration this is the "stock" answer to this problem) I mean, if I really don't want online surveillance, I could always disable my network card entirely, which is an even more effective...
[14:09:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Run in a VM - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:31] <exec> 08└─Heh - I don't even turn on the sound device on my hardware. It's turned off in BIOS. The only sound I ever need is provided via USB, and that's unplugged most of the time. There is no camera attached to my computers, either. You say "paranoia", I say "better safe than sorry".
[14:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Cheap Speakers - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:35] <exec> 08└─Not a bad thought, but the issue is that for a huge part of the population the audible range is a fantasy - most adults can't hear above 12-15kHz. But speakers are almost uniformly able to produce up through 20 kHz. And unlike adult ears, your phone can hear up there no problem.
[14:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Re:Cool but - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 769 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:39] <exec> 08└─The idea is not that the phone/laptop does it "on its own." It's to secretly embed "listening" code into web pages (for example, as part of ads). If you have a page containing the javascript open AND an ultrasonic tag plays on your TV, then the javascript will report it. If your web browser is close...
[14:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02When do we start handling this in hardware? - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 725 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:09:41] <exec> 08└─Everything has "soft" controls and "soft" indicators (if they have ANY indicators) these days. Soft controls can be bypassed. Soft indicators (e.g. a light that goes on when your camera is recording) can be programmed to lie. What we need is hardware controls, for both the microphone and camera. I w...
[14:09:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:When do we start handling this in hardware? - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 696 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:43] <exec> 08└─"I want to switch it off and have that mean it's OFF" Posted above: my audio card is turned off in BIOS. No sound device is attached to my audio. All sound is provided via USB. When I want sound turned off, I simply unplug USB. No sound, whether audible, ultra, subsonic, or whatever. None. Further,...
[14:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03shipofgold [4696] (Score:2) 02Re:Bullshit - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 1860 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:54] <exec> 08└─I run windows7 on my wife's and kids computers and Linux on mine. Most of the vulnerability in a home system depends on the user (click on a suspicious link, download a program, etc). I believe Linux is just as vulnerable as Windows given the actions that a user might do, but the user base is so muc...
[14:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Bullshit - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:56] <exec> 08└─Sounds like a rolling-release distro is something you might look into. I wouldn't advise Gentoo because of the huge amounts of butt-pain involved in initial setup or Arch because of systemd but something like Calculate (binary and easily set up version of Gentoo, without systemd and with the option...
[14:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:First part is incomplete - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:02] <exec> 08└─copy on write (ZFS, BTRFS). gold iso images of OS. Done. Windows malware would never have been a "thing" if Micro$oft had developed COW for every version of windoze. Once again, FOSS and Linux rocks.
[14:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02anonymous - 06Read the news like a spy - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:34] <exec> 08└─anonymous sources
[14:10:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02This has nothing to do with Trump... - 06Read the news like a spy - 1260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:35] <exec> 08└─The MSM hasn't been trustworthy since...forever. It's gotten worse in the age of the Internet, because funding for serious reporting has dried up, as the MSM fails to compete with citizen journalists, bloggers and whoever wants to set up a Twitter account. Read the news like a skeptic: - If the arti...
[14:10:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Not a big fan of Apple - 06Apple's Profit Slump Means a Pay Cut for Tim Cook - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:44] <exec> 08└─100% ditto that post, archfeld. All the rest of us working stiffs know that our pay depends on performance. If we don't perform, we're out the door, and we don't get paid. Executives need to be brought back in touch with reality. Great performance = great pay. Lackluster performance = lackluster pay...
[14:11:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:too big to fail? - 06GMO Grass That 'Escaped' Defies Eradication, Divides Grass Seed Industry - 1499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:20] <exec> 08└─The problem is you're talking about implementing currently legal solutions, as if the whole problem isn't the legal system being horribly broken. IRL an analogy I like to use is imagine a legal system where if my dog takes a shit on your front lawn I can sue you until you pay me off or I get your la...
[14:11:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Lies and more Lies - 06GMO Grass That 'Escaped' Defies Eradication, Divides Grass Seed Industry - 980 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:33] <exec> 08└─emotions on the topic run high and I wouldn't be surprised if an activist stole/bought some seed and threw it out a car window downwind to make the political point. If they aren't doing that, why not? The contaminant argument sounds extremely tasty, very dietary law / purity law which we have a cult...
[14:11:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Pyramid Power - 06GMO Grass That 'Escaped' Defies Eradication, Divides Grass Seed Industry - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:11:34] <exec> 08└─Many find the prospect alarming.
[14:11:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Victory for Due Process - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 451 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:47] <exec> 08└─He had "a substantial hoard of pictures and video of child sex abuse on computer equipment" and the FBI is refusing to release evidence that would allow an impartial forensic investigator for the court to determine whether he downloaded them or the FBI planted them. If a court allowed this, it would...
[14:12:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Better to drop than... - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:05] <exec> 08└─Only if it's an unsalted hash or you know the salt, and it's a cryptographic hash that is longer than 32 bits.
[14:13:18] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03lx [1915] 02Re:Key quote from the article - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 191 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:18] <exec> 08└─It's easy to leave the EU. The problem is that the May government wants to leave and retain all the advantages of EU membership. Of course the rest of Europe isn't going along with that plan.
[14:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:Key quote from the article - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 1210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:20] <exec> 08└─It's quite simple. The European Economic Area, the common market, is based on the principal of the free movement of goods, capital and labour. You can't have two of the three, it's all or nothing. No other country gets to pick and choose. The only alternative to negotiate a deal. Lots of countries h...
[14:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Key quote from the article - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 933 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:24] <exec> 08└─> That would be incredibly stupid and childish. The single market is benefiting them too. If you really think like that you are out of whack compared to the vast, vast majority of humans and even apes (first best link from Google: https://www.sciencedaily.com). [sci...
[14:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Key quote from the article - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 2271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:26] <exec> 08└─> trying to get as many parties as possible to join. That was, in large part, the UK that wanted it. Others like France were not so enthusiastic about it ever. > But when members like Greece or the UK today become somewhat unable or unwilling to go along with this growing integration, they get treat...
[14:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Germany said no - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 1024 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:35] <exec> 08└─That is one crazy guy, supported by a party that in local elections in the last decades managed at best 2%, but usually stays fairly solid below 1%. And I wouldn't be surprised if only a small minority of even that 1% even supported independence. The wikipedia list is really bad, it just throws ever...
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[15:09:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Better gif in the comments - 06Visualization of a Phased Array Antenna System - 1553 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:20] <exec> 08└─Click on the link, there's a gif in the comments that does a better job than the entire article by "AKA the A" using a probably stolen gif by Christian Wolff For a good time I can think of at least two good analogies to phased arrays, one is the classic quantum physics double slit experiment (which...
[15:09:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Disable Javascript - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:31] <exec> 08└─Why should I have to deal with a huge swath of the useful functionality of most websites being disabled, just because some @sshole can use the same functionality to run what's effectively malware using the same functionality?
[15:09:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:When do we start handling this in hardware? - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:42] <exec> 08└─I suspect that this whole thing is made possible by "HD Audio". There is no reason for supporting ultrasonics other that traitor tracing and inter-species communication.
[15:09:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score:1) 02Re:First part is incomplete - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:59] <exec> 08└─NTFS dates back to, what, NT 4? COW on a 500MB hard drive... *shudder*.
[15:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Oakenshield [4900] (Score:1) 02Re:First part is incomplete - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:01] <exec> 08└─My URbackup datastore is sitting on a BTRFS filesystem!
[15:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:systemd - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:04] <exec> 08└─How complicated is it to set up a private tmpfs on non-systemd systems?
[15:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Time-to-secure? - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:08] <exec> 08└─"Defense in depth" suggests that even if you think your software is free of security bugs, you should still run it in a sandbox, just to be sure.
[15:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just make up things - 06Read the news like a spy - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:33] <exec> 08└─Get all your news from twitter?
[15:10:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:anonymous - 06Read the news like a spy - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:41] <exec> 08└─There are sources that are progressive-narrative-approved (aka the mainstream fake news)
[15:10:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:This has nothing to do with Trump... - 06Read the news like a spy - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:44] <exec> 08└─If the article is something simple, like "a great, new Mexican restaurant just opened at 1st and Main"
[15:10:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02That's his good point - 06Read the news like a spy - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:46] <exec> 08└─President-elect Donald Trump is clearly antagonistic toward the mainstream media.
[15:10:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02"Hacking" as news - 06Read the news like a spy - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:48] <exec> 08└─His disdain for journalists and reluctance to release details about his finances and business ventures may force journalists to rely increasingly on anonymous sources, a strategy that reputable news organizations have long frowned upon
[15:10:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Shock and awe - 06Read the news like a spy - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:51] <exec> 08└─President-elect Donald Trump is clearly antagonistic toward the mainstream media.
[15:11:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03anubi [2828] 02Re:Fair use - 06GMO Grass That 'Escaped' Defies Eradication, Divides Grass Seed Industry - 1869 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:31] <exec> 08└─This was when I was a kid, but my Grandpa had run-ins with Monsanto over his corn crop. My Grandpa did farming as he learned from his father, and so on, as it had been done since the land was given to my ancestors in exchange for them colonizing the area and growing food crops. For eons, the farmer...
[15:11:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:Lies and more Lies - 06GMO Grass That 'Escaped' Defies Eradication, Divides Grass Seed Industry - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:49] <exec> 08└─But in practice plant plagues (not plagues that attack plants, but plagues of actual plants) are very rare along the lines of getting hit by lightening. There are a handful of real world examples I can think of, kudzu in the south, that's about it.
[15:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03tonyPick [1237] (Score:2) 02Re:Key quote from the article - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:34] <exec> 08└─Minor point - the EU technically refers to the four freedoms (goods, people, services and capital). Otherwise everything you've said is correct - the UK's fundamental problem now is that the leave campaign means it's politically unacceptable for the government to accept free movement of people but i...
[15:14:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Codesmith [5811] (Score:1) 02Re:Fighter jets - 06Explosions that Save Lives - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:51] <exec> 08└─Actually, I believe the reference is to the rocket motor in the ejection system.
[15:17:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:active - 06The Oldest Computer (Not) on Earth - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:17:04] <exec> 08└─It could be because the CPU itself isn't a discrete unit. There isn't any part you can point to and say "This is the CPU". But i agree that it shouldn't be disqualified for that.
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[16:09:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03donkeyhotay [2540] (Score:2) 02Welcome to the past - 06Visualization of a Phased Array Antenna System - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:09:32] <exec> 08└─I worked on phased array systems when I was in the Navy, in the 80s. It's interesting to see this technology make it's way into the private sector.
[16:09:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Disable Javascript - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 619 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:44] <exec> 08└─That's his point, the problem here is that advertisers feel entitled to do whatever the hell they want to track people and generally behave like amoral crackpots. You should have to disable ads in order to have a reasonably safe visit to a website. But, so many websites use ads that aren't simple GI...
[16:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score:2) 02Re:Disable Javascript - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:46] <exec> 08└─It can't be done because you can't patch fast enough. Every time there is enough data accumulated to create a profile or signature for the malware, it is too late.
[16:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Re:Disable Javascript - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:48] <exec> 08└─Tell me why this same argument doesn't imply antivirus in general is useless.
[16:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score:2) 02Re:Disable Javascript - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:50] <exec> 08└─That is the point. Anti-virus is proven useless and, often, harmful. The alternative is using more robust systems. That excludes M$ and web browser Javascript
[16:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Disable Javascript - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 781 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:52] <exec> 08└─This was my argument the other day. Java script isn't evil by default. The problem is web standards which force browser designs to be insecure by default. We need a browser that respects privacy and security by removing the ability to access files, devices, cookies outside of its domain, and disable...
[16:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Re:Cheap Speakers - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:59] <exec> 08└─And while you're at it, create a warning system that beeps (...) when a browser or other non whitelisted software tries to make those sounds. So we can take action against the creators.
[16:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:When do we start handling this in hardware? - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:06] <exec> 08└─and when I unplug it, it can't be turned on remotely.
[16:10:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03shipofgold [4696] (Score:2) 02Re:Bullshit - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 1658 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:19] <exec> 08└─Thanks for the advice...I will look into Calculate or Gentoo for my next build. The only issue I have with the smaller distros is what support they will have in 5 years. When I setup a system I typically run it for a long time, put a number of packages on it with configuration files customized to my...
[16:10:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:How to approach anonymous sources news overage? - 06Read the news like a spy - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:53] <exec> 08└─In Soviet Russia, something funny hears you!
[16:10:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:Just make up things - 06Read the news like a spy - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:58] <exec> 08└─And here I thought it was when we learned language.
[16:11:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:anonymous - 06Read the news like a spy - 1080 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:08] <exec> 08└─Get over it. The MSM are part of the Democratic Party's Org Chart, not some amorphous Progressive Movement. Bernie was NOT a Democrat, by his own admission, so hadn't spent years building up staff inside the Party like the Clintons. Second, the Democratic Party is not a protest movement, it expects...
[16:11:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:"Hacking" as news - 06Read the news like a spy - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:14] <exec> 08└─I lean towards thinking the burden should be on people to secure their own systems rather than this sort of thing punishable by law. Or at least that this should be the case for politicians.
[16:11:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:"Hacking" as news - 06Read the news like a spy - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:16] <exec> 08└─I lean towards thinking the burden should be on people to secure their own systems rather than this sort of thing punishable by law.
[16:11:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shock and awe - 06Read the news like a spy - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:19] <exec> 08└─"You can't poke the large orangutan with a stick for over an year and suddenly complain when it's angry at you."'t In this case, shouldn't that be spelled orangetan?
[16:11:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03tisI [5866] (Score:2) 02Why ? - 06Read the news like a spy - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:22] <exec> 08└─More Trump crap. Can we move on now? "His .. reluctance to release details about his finances and business ventures" He's a rich guy. Rich people cheat and rip off poor people. This is what they do. This is how they got rich in the first place. Get used to more of it.
[16:11:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:anti-surveillance garb - 06Anti-Surveillance Clothing - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:43] <exec> 08└─Move along. We're looking for a perp with a big nose.
[16:11:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:QR Code clothing... - 06Anti-Surveillance Clothing - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:54] <exec> 08└─Reminds me of the guy who stick ["; DROP TABLE VEHICLES] to the front of his car.
[16:12:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Better to drop than... - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:46] <exec> 08└─by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 08, @07:19PM (#451267) [...] Wow. That's some paranoia you have there. Please log in
[16:12:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Better to drop than... - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:56] <exec> 08└─unless they are a complete ignoramus without any clue of computer science, programming, mathematics and basic logic
[16:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No funds have been lost... - 06With No Losses, "Free Ross" Regains Control of Hacked Accounts - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:29] <exec> 08└─lol, that is silly. Fed monitor the upstream and downstream, and pretty much own all the data in any 'murican company's database... why would they need to hack accounts?!! Other then bruteforcing bitcoin wallet pass, i assume all the other data here can be had through the official channels... And wh...
[16:14:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 023 harpoons, 1 torp, some DC - 06Crew Member Pushes Wrong Button, Loses Nearly $5 Million in Weapons - 4038 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:47] <exec> 08└─Cnet claims its a weird combo of 3 harpoon missiles, a decent long range anti-ship missile, 1 torp theoretically dual purpose but probably anti-sub, and some depth charges which are anti-sub 1) If the dude who hit the button drives a Ferrari to work tomorrow and a NK "fishing vessel" was in the area...
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[17:09:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Of course! - 06The FTC IoT Security Case Against D-Link is a Test of Power - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:22] <exec> 08└─When is it not a test power? The losers who have never done anything of use just see yet another moment to exert some sense of power over those who actually produce something useful for society. Don't let these Harvard Schmucks get any break; they are the true fools.
[17:09:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02What should be the limits of power? - 06The FTC IoT Security Case Against D-Link is a Test of Power - 732 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:23] <exec> 08└─Should the FTC be able to take action against the vendor of a toaster that is known to burn down people's homes? I tend to think of IoT vulnerabilities in the same category as that toaster. When I buy an appliance device (eg, smart tv, router, light bulb) I don't expect it to get hacked and particip...
[17:09:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Re:What should be the limits of power? - 06The FTC IoT Security Case Against D-Link is a Test of Power - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:25] <exec> 08└─People should takes responsibility for their own choices; if your house burns down, then FUCK YOU; wrong choice.
[17:09:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What should be the limits of power? - 06The FTC IoT Security Case Against D-Link is a Test of Power - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:28] <exec> 08└─Why should the manufacturer be allowed to continue to produce house-burning toasters without some kind of penalty? If that's a known defect in their product and they continue to make it anyway, shouldn't they be liable for some of the damages that their product causes? They chose to continue making...
[17:09:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What should be the limits of power? - 06The FTC IoT Security Case Against D-Link is a Test of Power - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:30] <exec> 08└─The Invisible Hand will take care of it, comrade. About twenty years down the road or so, word will get out that Burn Your House Down Toasters might cause a house fire, and consumers will buy from a competitor instead.
[17:09:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What should be the limits of power? - 06The FTC IoT Security Case Against D-Link is a Test of Power - 1288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:32] <exec> 08└─This isn't my idea, but it made an incredible amount of sense to me. There should be an organization like Underwriter's Laboratories that can certify devices. If you buy an uncertified toaster, it might burn your house down. Neither homeowners nor insurance companies want houses burning down, so it'...
[17:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Re:Disable Javascript - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:03] <exec> 08└─Life would be better if everyone was on a well-administered linux system and running a browser that perfectly sandboxed content and data (by the way, if you know of one, let me know). Fine. Point taken. But IMO it's not a terrible helpful suggestion in the real world.
[17:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Run in a VM - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:07] <exec> 08└─You should generally never browse without a VM anyway.
[17:10:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Cool but - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:16] <exec> 08└─Web pages can activate a microphone? What the fuck?
[17:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:When do we start handling this in hardware? - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:21] <exec> 08└─anecdata of potato chip bag blocking [ubuntuforums.org]
[17:10:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:When do we start handling this in hardware? - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:24] <exec> 08└─Don't use tinfoil. Use faraday bags. Chinese ship big boxes of them for a reasonable price if you shop around. And in some applications conductive paint is great, it's harder to find deals on though.
[17:10:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Bullshit - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:38] <exec> 08└─Well, Gentoo isn't exactly a smaller distro and it's been running for quite a long time. Calculate? Shurg. They may or may not be active five years out but it should be a "relatively" painless trip to proper Gentoo if they do fold. I agree about Windows 7 though. It's quite a solid gaming platform,...
[17:10:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02There was a time - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 1352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:39] <exec> 08└─Install WinXP, and start running updates. Meanwhile, visit popular download sites, and download your favorite browser, antivirus, and other applications. Before you got your apps installed, you had infections. This taught me the valuable lessons, 1. only download from the vendor's site (whether that...
[17:10:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score:2) 02Re:systemd - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:50] <exec> 08└─mount -t tmpfs tmpfs /my/mount/point
[17:11:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:anonymous - 06Read the news like a spy - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:29] <exec> 08└─And they worked hand-in-hand with the Hillary Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee to try to discredit Sanders, Jill Stein, and other forces far more progressive than Hillary Clinton ever has been.
[17:11:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:anonymous - 06Read the news like a spy - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:31] <exec> 08└─ok stop with the blaming the liberal media. this problem is not specific to your preference of fox over cnn
[17:11:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:"Hacking" as news - 06Read the news like a spy - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:39] <exec> 08└─The reality is that if people were allowed to come try your door's lock 24/7/265 with no consequence for failure, even if they jam tools in the lock that costs you money to have fixed, there aren't many locks you can buy that will keep them out.
[17:11:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:"Hacking" as news - 06Read the news like a spy - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:41] <exec> 08└─That's very true, but at that point you should probably invest in some more effective defense than just a lock. And if you are of that much interest to possible thieves, should the rest of us bear the expense of your defense?
[17:11:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Why ? - 06Read the news like a spy - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:46] <exec> 08└─So do we give up, grease up, and bend over? Or perhaps, keep the pressure on to call them out on their bullshit?
[17:11:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Interesting read, bad example - 06Read the news like a spy - 1302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:11:48] <exec> 08└─I'm not 100% sure what everybody else is commenting on within this thread... maybe some kind of anti-MSM, anti-establishment subtext was in the summary which I missed? Anyway, this article is an interesting read and seems to make sense and is a clever new perspective on what to think about when news...
[17:13:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Guilty as Shit! We all know it. - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:08] <exec> 08└─If catching a pedo is that important - which it is - then why not do your fucking job and do it properly, follow all procedures and check all requirement boxes the right way; that way, your evidence will be admissible in court.
[17:15:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Brexit Lite option - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 482 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:02] <exec> 08└─This replaces over 300 years of common heritage [wikipedia.org] with a relationship which mostly on the same land mass with a at-most-75-year relationship [wikipedia.org] with people who speak a different language on a different continent... plus leaves England and Wales in a mostly-surrounded-by-EU...
[17:15:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02Re:sux2bthatguy - 06Crew Member Pushes Wrong Button, Loses Nearly $5 Million in Weapons - 1027 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:32] <exec> 08└─There's some language choice stuff where the korean translation was "mistaken" but when American clickbait sites report its "accidental" There are solid procedural reason to hit the "eject external stores" button like engine failure, incoming missile or similar maneuvering challenge, fire report, de...
[17:16:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Whoa now! - 06Saudi Arabia Flogs, Jails Exploited Foreign Workers for Protest - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:54] <exec> 08└─see, this makes up for the rest of your posts in the thread.
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[18:09:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Re:What should be the limits of power? - 06The FTC IoT Security Case Against D-Link is a Test of Power - 1059 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:33] <exec> 08└─If the plane you are in crashes, then you should have done more research on the airline and their maintenance practices. FUCK YOU; wrong choice. If you did do your homework, and it turns out the airline was lying about its maintenance practices to cover up their shoddy work, then you should have dem...
[18:09:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What should be the limits of power? - 06The FTC IoT Security Case Against D-Link is a Test of Power - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:35] <exec> 08└─Yep, at some point the volunteer posse ran out of steam. The sheriff was funded to police the town, as a job.
[18:09:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Uncle_Al [1108] (Score:2) 02Underwriter's Laboratories - 06The FTC IoT Security Case Against D-Link is a Test of Power - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:38] <exec> 08└─Think about that name for a second. UNDERWRITER'S laboratories, as in INSURANCE UNDERWRITERS There is a strong motivation for people paying out claims to NOT have toasters burn down houses. Until there is some strong financial reason for botnets and pwning etc. etc. not to exist, nothing real will h...
[18:09:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03nobu_the_bard [6373] (Score:2) 02should just make their own org to do it - 06The FTC IoT Security Case Against D-Link is a Test of Power - 1037 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:40] <exec> 08└─The companies involved should create their own independent organization to do this. The video game industry in the US did something like this in the 90s, starting up the ESRB, to mitigate the problem of content control (censorship, etc). The more sensible/lucky companies in other nations did this to...
[18:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:Welcome to the past - 06Visualization of a Phased Array Antenna System - 608 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:54] <exec> 08└─These systems have a lot of potential for civilian use. The National Severe Storm Laboratory has a test system they have been working with for the past decade. MPAR (Multi-function Phase Array Radar) has the potential to not only increase severe storm and tornado prediction lead time since its scan...
[18:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02MIMO != phased array - 06Visualization of a Phased Array Antenna System - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:09:55] <exec> 08└─This link was given in one of the comments on TFA: http://www.nutaq.com [nutaq.com]
[18:10:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score:2) 02Re:Disable Javascript - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 1368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:15] <exec> 08└─It depends. People didn't used to wash their hands, not even surgeons. People didn't used to handle and store food in ways now known to be safe, not even after serving. For a period there were even radioactive products on the market, some for human consumption. Things change. It's just taking a whil...
[18:10:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:Cool but - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:29] <exec> 08└─Problem is, your phone might already have that software installed. Several companies have been playing with this technology for advertising purposes. They make SDKs that app devs can use in their apps (and, of course, get paid for using). SilverPush is one of the big "pioneers" in this arena. They c...
[18:10:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03SDRefugee [4477] (Score:2) 02Re:Bullshit - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 1594 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:50] <exec> 08└─I'm a retired sysadmin, did 20 years with Windows, but my first love being Linux. I've migrated quite a number of non-tech users to Linux (X/LUbuntu), the first ones being a couple who loved to click on EVERYthing and whose machines were bogged down with so much malware that it was best to nuke/repa...
[18:10:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03driven [6295] (Score:2) 02Re:Bullshit - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 595 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:52] <exec> 08└─I set up Windows for my kid with no A/V and it was infected with malware within 2 weeks. I got him a Mac with no anti-virus and it's been running with no issues for well over a year. The small part of me that still wants to use Windows is absolutely turned off by the invasive telemetry that Microsof...
[18:10:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bullshit - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:54] <exec> 08└─I brought a brand new Stinkpad a while back which came preinstalled with XP. I connected to a hotel wifi to start downloading firefox, and the system was owned before the download finished.
[18:11:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03nobu_the_bard [6373] (Score:2) 02Re:First part is incomplete - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 966 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:03] <exec> 08└─You need backups that the system doesn't have full access to. Newer Windows Ransomware can delete or encrypt backups, and will do so if they see an opportunity, and have the needed level of access. They know how VSS works (a lot of backup tools are actually using this, on Windows) and will tear it o...
[18:11:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Good, bad and ugly - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 4075 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:11:12] <exec> 08└─The Good: #1. Can't argue with the First Commandment. Thou Shalt Make Backups. So many "hair on fire" problems become annoyances if you know your backup is good. #4. Remote syslog is valuable for exactly the reason stated, the logs are the first target after an intrustion. #17. Only install software...
[18:11:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:anonymous - 06Read the news like a spy - 1110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:50] <exec> 08└─I do think the news problem is far more heavily concentrated in 'liberal' news sources. The reason is not that conservative outlets like Fox are more reputable, but because they're so laughably unreputable that only a fool or a partisan (and really, what is the difference?) would take what they say...
[18:12:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shock and awe - 06Read the news like a spy - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:01] <exec> 08└─The tan of an orang utan is always orange, not just when angry.
[18:12:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why ? - 06Read the news like a spy - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:05] <exec> 08└─What do you even mean call them out? Trump's made no secret of the fact he's abused the hell out of the system in every way possible. The nice thing about having a president like Trump is that his comments are not focus group tested. Calling out Trump for taking advantage of the system at every poss...
[18:12:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why ? - 06Read the news like a spy - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:07] <exec> 08└─He's about to be inaugurated as president. Get ready for 4 more years of Trump crap, because its not going anywhere.
[18:12:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Read the news like a spy - 06Read the news like a spy - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:12:10] <exec> 08└─Read the news like a spy: Always looking over your shoulder whether someone is watching you.
[18:12:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Back to norms - 06Read the news like a spy - 1521 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:12:12] <exec> 08└─We are see a shift back to norms of news. Most news agencies are/were owned by 1%rs. They want to push their agenda. What better way than by the news. What we saw was a shift towards a long lived fad. Investigative journalism. Oh you still see bits here and there but nothing like what it was in the...
[18:12:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score:2) 02Re:Not a big fan of Apple - 06Apple's Profit Slump Means a Pay Cut for Tim Cook - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:22] <exec> 08└─> No golden parachutes allowed. Assuming he didnt put any of that $10M he earnt in 2015 aside...
[18:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Victory for Due Process - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:37] <exec> 08└─It's terribly important that we adhere to the innocent until proven guilty system of law that we here in the US enjoy. Sure, a few will get away. More importantly, those who are innocent should be protected. When it comes to children, it doesn't work that way. All someone needs to do is make the acc...
[18:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Better to drop than... - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:41] <exec> 08└─Really? We're a site frequented by technologically savvy malcontents - seems to me the security agencies would be slacking in their job not to keep at least a casual eye on things here. Plus "Yeah boss, I *am* browsing slashdot at work - see it's on my list of things to monitor..."
[18:14:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Key quote from the article - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:59] <exec> 08└─I would say you're correct, too. But tell them that, and they'll start frothing and seething and going "but MUH JERBZ!" Historical literacy is not a strong suit of most Americans, but especially not those south of the Mason Dixon line.
[18:17:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03efitton [1077] (Score:2) 02Re:don't trust it - 06Monoprice Unveils Expanded Line of 3D Printers at CES 2017 - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:17:48] <exec> 08└─The parent/grandparent was being ironic. Clearly isn't "one" price. Not "monoprice." And we all groan at the bad pun.
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[19:09:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:3, Insightful) 02The real story: crappy security - 06Stolen Passwords Fuel Cardless ATM Fraud - 1430 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:09:13] <exec> 08└─The current trend of turning your phone into your wallet is...not very intelligent. Your phone has far more access than, say, your wallet: If you lose your wallet, thieves may have your cards, but they don't have your PINs and passwords. With the phone, and stupid apps, they may get the complete pac...
[19:09:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Bank Robbery - 06Stolen Passwords Fuel Cardless ATM Fraud - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:14] <exec> 08└─the real story is crappy security from beginning to end, on the part of Chase Bank.
[19:09:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03gringer [962] (Score:2) 02Change of details = notification - 06Stolen Passwords Fuel Cardless ATM Fraud - 619 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:09:17] <exec> 08└─Had there been a bit more information provided, this might not have happened. I know of a few web services that will email both accounts when there is a change of email address. The same could (and should) be done for other forms of contact. No mention of the other contact, just something saying som...
[19:09:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02But who decides? - 06Stolen Passwords Fuel Cardless ATM Fraud - 427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:09:19] <exec> 08└─Ideally, you're right, but: guess who decides whether the bank or the customer is responsible? Why, the bank itself, of course. You can bet that this is nailed down in the fine print of your account contract, as well. Note that Chase rejected her claim. It was only when KrebsOnSecurity got involved...
[19:09:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:What should be the limits of power? - 06The FTC IoT Security Case Against D-Link is a Test of Power - 589 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:31] <exec> 08└─No, they shouldn't be liable at all. This is bad for business. Consumers should have the complete responsibility to research their purchases, and if they die due to their mistakes, or the entire subdivision burns down because of them, then too bad. When Trump takes over with his libertarian advisors...
[19:09:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03MrGuy [1007] 02Re:What should be the limits of power? - 06The FTC IoT Security Case Against D-Link is a Test of Power - 1059 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:33] <exec> 08└─If the plane you are in crashes, then you should have done more research on the airline and their maintenance practices. FUCK YOU; wrong choice. If you did do your homework, and it turns out the airline was lying about its maintenance practices to cover up their shoddy work, then you should have dem...
[19:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:should just make their own org to do it - 06The FTC IoT Security Case Against D-Link is a Test of Power - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:39] <exec> 08└─The companies involved should create their own independent organization to [certify and test similar to Underwriters Laboratories]
[19:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:should just make their own org to do it - 06The FTC IoT Security Case Against D-Link is a Test of Power - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:41] <exec> 08└─I think there is a slight difference in magnitude between a organization that rates "this game might show boobies" and "this device might participate in a botnet that wrecks the internet" and "this device might burn down your house".
[19:09:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:What should be the limits of power? - 06The FTC IoT Security Case Against D-Link is a Test of Power - 774 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:43] <exec> 08└─The problem is that a properly-designed oven, properly maintained by the user, is certifiable by UL to be safe for an extended lifespan. Built it right, with enough padding, and you can sell it with limited worries. ANY Internet-connected device using a standard software package (i.e. all of them),...
[19:09:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:What should be the limits of power? - 06The FTC IoT Security Case Against D-Link is a Test of Power - 814 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:45] <exec> 08└─An ideal, of course, is to make IoT devices need as few updates as possible. Ideally zero over their lifespan. If companies had liability for damages caused by their IoT devices, they would invest in security. They would reduce attack surface area. Eliminate default credentials. No back doors intend...
[19:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:3, Informative) 02More info and links - 06The FTC IoT Security Case Against D-Link is a Test of Power - 1099 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:09:48] <exec> 08└─Some tidbits: - The FTC press release [ftc.gov]: They note that "The Commission files a complaint when it has “reason to believe” that the law has been or is being violated". - The complaint itself [ftc.gov] charges D-Link with "engaging in unfair or deceptive acts or practices in violation of S...
[19:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:More info and links - 06The FTC IoT Security Case Against D-Link is a Test of Power - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:50] <exec> 08└─It's weird that they didn't cite any of the hacks that targeted D-Link devices because they have occurred: Mirai, for example, targeted D-Link [bleepingcomputer.com] Maybe it's because they weren't in the US. Or, maybe they simple filed the complaint before this occurred, who knows.
[19:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Trump will stop this. - 06The FTC IoT Security Case Against D-Link is a Test of Power - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:09:52] <exec> 08└─D-Link only need to stall until Trump gets in to power. He'll make sure corporations no longer have to face any responsibility for their actions.
[19:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Trump will stop this. - 06The FTC IoT Security Case Against D-Link is a Test of Power - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:54] <exec> 08└─Wouldn't the corporations have to face responsibility? Two of the Republican mantras are: 1. Personal Responsibility 2. Corporations are people too!
[19:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Better gif in the comments - 06Visualization of a Phased Array Antenna System - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:08] <exec> 08└─The other analogy which is closer is you're building a high res radio astronomy interferometer.
[19:10:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:What if... - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:22] <exec> 08└─If you are browsing from a public spot (e.g. sitting in a cafe using their public hot spot), you can be sure that a dozen smartphones you cannot control are in hearing range.
[19:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:Disable Javascript - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:33] <exec> 08└─You shouldn't have to. Properly made web pages would work anyway. So while you're getting pissed off at the malware authors exploiting this, also get pissed off at the brainless advertisers and overseers that demand a shitty script-infested web and push nonstop to spread their shit till you cannot a...
[19:10:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:When do we start handling this in hardware? - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:53] <exec> 08└─Our neighborhood got a lot quieter after cell phones added enough ultrasound range for the dogs to just call each other. We had tried to teach them to text, but not everyone has an IP68 phone.
[19:10:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03bryan [29] (Score:2) 02Fruity Oaty Bar - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:54] <exec> 08└─Should only be allowed if the commercial with the normally imperceivable audio is for Fruity Oaty Bars [youtube.com]!
[19:11:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Are these figures sufficient for a space elevator? - 06Researchers Create Sponge-Like Configuration of Graphene Stronger and Lighter Than Steel - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:37] <exec> 08└─One of the road blocks for a space elevator is the material for the rope. Assuming they actually manage to produce (and mass-produce) this material, would it be sufficiently strong for this application?
[19:12:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:1, Flamebait) 02Re:Division of labour - 06Read the news like a spy - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:00] <exec> 08└─"War of Northern Aggression" my ass. Those traitors lost. Of course, the Union screwed up by letting them back into the country...
[19:12:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Division of labour - 06Read the news like a spy - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:02] <exec> 08└─during the War of Northern Aggression
[19:12:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:"Hacking" as news - 06Read the news like a spy - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:18] <exec> 08└─So take all that "information wants to be free" hacker weenie bilge and flush it, time to grow up and join the real world
[19:12:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:"Hacking" as news - 06Read the news like a spy - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:20] <exec> 08└─Might as well look for diamonds in a septic tank. I was wondering why the hell J-Mo runs around carrying a dull knitting needle, until I realized it's actually an axe that he's ground to within an inch of nonexistence.
[19:12:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shock and awe - 06Read the news like a spy - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:25] <exec> 08└─President-elect Donald Trump is clearly antagonistic toward the mainstream media.
[19:12:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why ? - 06Read the news like a spy - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:30] <exec> 08└─So do we give up, grease up, and bend over?
[19:12:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why ? - 06Read the news like a spy - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:33] <exec> 08└─And if it had been Hillary refusing to release such info the media would be telling everyone to shut up and stop being misogynist.
[19:12:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Not a big fan of Apple - 06Apple's Profit Slump Means a Pay Cut for Tim Cook - 455 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:46] <exec> 08└─I would expect that any intelligent person earning millions in a year would put a nice chunk of that money aside. (that seems to rule out a lot of artists and athletes) We can't go back and take that money from them, so they should be comfortable for the rest of their lives. Just stop the practice o...
[19:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Lies and more Lies - 06GMO Grass That 'Escaped' Defies Eradication, Divides Grass Seed Industry - 1480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:39] <exec> 08└─There are many, it's just that some are not given much thought since they don't choke out everything else like kudzu. Weeds are a perfect example. We all get them, we have no idea how they got there, they do not go away. Where they are more managed, they get sprayed with various herbicides. Of cours...
[19:14:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Better to drop than... - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:17] <exec> 08└─He's saying you could build an IP dictionary by hashing every single IP and doing a comparison against the target hash. You would have to know the has algorithm and salt though.
[19:14:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Better to drop than... - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 532 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:18] <exec> 08└─Wanted to follow up. I poked around the source for a few min and it looks like a plain md5 hash is used. A rainbow table is doable. 16 bytes for IP and 16 bytes for md5 with a total of 4,294,967,296 records is ~137 GB. If someone could find a way show a user hash for a specific comment then i could...
[19:14:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03zraith [112] (Score:1) 02Related talk: (33C3) - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:29] <exec> 08└─A very related 33C3 talk: Law Enforcement Are Hacking the Planet [33c3] https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[19:16:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:sawstop - 06Explosions that Save Lives - 504 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:16:53] <exec> 08└─Didn't know that part, disconnect from reality is kind of a deal-breaker. I've heard similar stories from non-troll inventors, like the guy who invented hydraulic power steering assist (as was used from something like WWII up through just recently) - he built one, installed it on his model T, patent...
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[20:09:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:1, Redundant) 02stoking the fires? - 06WikiLeaks Proposes Tracking Verified Twitter Users’ Homes, Families and Finances - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:09:15] <exec> 08└─Is Wikileaks serious, or, are they just trying to open people's eyes? The average knucklehead has no qualms about verifying their identity for one or more internet services. Facebook, Twitter, Google, and more ask you to verify your identity. I can't see that Wikileaks needs or wants the information...
[20:09:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:stoking the fires? - 06WikiLeaks Proposes Tracking Verified Twitter Users’ Homes, Families and Finances - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:16] <exec> 08└─Given that it's from WaPo, the first question that pops into my mind is what kind of spin job is WaPo putting on what Wikileaks actually wants to do. WaPo is still butthurt that Clinton lost.
[20:09:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:stoking the fires? - 06WikiLeaks Proposes Tracking Verified Twitter Users’ Homes, Families and Finances - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:19] <exec> 08└─Because hundreds of other news outlets haven't reported on it in exactly the same way. I think the problem is you are just butthurt that wapo reports facts that impinge on your reality. Tribal nihilism FTL.
[20:09:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02They deleted the tweet - 06WikiLeaks Proposes Tracking Verified Twitter Users’ Homes, Families and Finances - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:21] <exec> 08└─Is Wikileaks serious, or, are they just trying to open people's eyes?
[20:09:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:stoking the fires? - 06WikiLeaks Proposes Tracking Verified Twitter Users’ Homes, Families and Finances - 416 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:23] <exec> 08└─Verified accounts on Twitter are accounts of celebs or other people that Twitter feels (for one reason or another) are prominent enough that their accounts should be "verified" so that people can know that yes, that is that William Shatner's twitter account. It shows up as a little blue check mark w...
[20:09:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03pendorbound [2688] (Score:2) 02Re:The real story: crappy security - 06Stolen Passwords Fuel Cardless ATM Fraud - 533 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:34] <exec> 08└─Depends on the phone. Assuming you've made it impossible for a thief to add another phone that isn't mine (which is where Chase failed), and we're only talking about the security risk if you get my actual phone, I'll take my phone over plastic cards any day. You need my finger print to unlock my iPh...
[20:09:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Even easier... - 06Stolen Passwords Fuel Cardless ATM Fraud - 569 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:09:38] <exec> 08└─All you need is the banks routing number and an account number, no username or password required. I had $20 withdrawn out of my savings account by a Kohls cashier entering a check into the POS register as an electronic check. The problem is that I never shopped there, the cashier entered the wrong n...
[20:09:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Uncle_Al [1108] 02Underwriter's Laboratories - 06The FTC IoT Security Case Against D-Link is a Test of Power - 306 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:54] <exec> 08└─Think about that name for a second. UNDERWRITER'S laboratories, as in INSURANCE UNDERWRITERS There is a strong motivation for people paying out claims to NOT have toasters burn down houses. Until there is some strong financial reason for botnets and pwning etc. etc. not to exist, nothing real will h...
[20:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score:2) 02Re:Trump will stop this. - 06The FTC IoT Security Case Against D-Link is a Test of Power - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:05] <exec> 08└─And everyone knows that people can do what ever the fuck they want as long as they pay off the right people.
[20:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Slippery Slope to only govt. approved devices?? - 06The FTC IoT Security Case Against D-Link is a Test of Power - 600 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:06] <exec> 08└─While on the face of it I think that this actually is a good idea -- that is, to punish manufactures that make internet appliances that are blantantly insecure. However, what worries me is that this will lead to a regulation scheme that requires that every single device connected to t...
[20:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03mauAtzori [4759] (Score:1) 02Beware of the Borg - 06Hubble Provides Interstellar Road Map for Voyagers' Galactic Trek - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:15] <exec> 08└─Yes, but can Hubble see subspace anomalies? Capt. Janeway could surely use some help.
[20:10:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What if... - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:37] <exec> 08└─That gets you location but not user. Tin foil actually *might* work. But only because it *might* distort the sound so echos wrong? However, if it is the only device in range it would do nothing.
[20:11:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''vulnerability [...] depends on the user'' - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 1352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:24] <exec> 08└─Most of the vulnerability in a home system depends on the user I have had several stories from the blog of Linux advocate Robert Pogson make the front page here. Pogson is now retired, after a career in Science/Technology. His final years in the workforce were as a public school teacher. When he arr...
[20:11:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Good, bad and ugly - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:45] <exec> 08└─I do not give a shit if my traffic to wunderground.com is logged.
[20:12:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:anonymous - 06Read the news like a spy - 1003 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:26] <exec> 08└─They are both corrupt. Trump is definitely corrupt: In addition to buying off Pam Bondi, as you mention, he has engaged in all sorts of other shady dealings, and almost definitely has mob ties. Clinton's corruption extends far past a single meeting in exchange for Clinton Foundation donations, thoug...
[20:12:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:anonymous - 06Read the news like a spy - 962 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:28] <exec> 08└─> Correct the Record superPAC Please cite one example of CTR acting nefariously. Seriously. This is the kind of exaggeration I'm talking about. A superpac dedicated to literally correcting false information is now proof of horrible corruption. WTF? The worst I can find on CTR is that they used the c...
[20:12:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02MSM can't get it right even when they have video - 06Read the news like a spy - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:12:54] <exec> 08└─When reporters get things this wrong [youtube.com] when they have all the facts (and video), do anonymous sources really make the reporting any less reliable?
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[21:09:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02No were not! - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:09:13] <exec> 08└─I will shoot the next person that says we are obsessed with guns!
[21:09:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No were not! - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:15] <exec> 08└─Where's the "+1, Irony" mod when we need it?
[21:09:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:4, Insightful) 02terrible shit happens - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 3380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:09:17] <exec> 08└─Eastern Nazarene college offers a timeline of genocides, in the 20th century. Their timeline is not all inclusive. http://libguides.enc.edu [enc.edu] Listverse has a list of the ten most atrocious genocides in human history. This list is not all inclusive, either. http://listverse...
[21:09:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Three main reasons - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 903 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:09:19] <exec> 08└─I believe there are three major viewpoints behind the phenomenon: First is nostalgia: it reminds many of the "good ol' days" when life was (allegedly) simpler, and cowboy-ish (rural) people had more power. Second is distrust of the government or governments. It's seen as an insurance policy against...
[21:09:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:stoking the fires? - 06WikiLeaks Proposes Tracking Verified Twitter Users’ Homes, Families and Finances - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:29] <exec> 08└─"hundreds of other news sites" just take for granted that something from WaPo or other "prestigious" news sites are truthful, and full of facts. http://www.politifact.com [politifact.com]
[21:09:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:stoking the fires? - 06WikiLeaks Proposes Tracking Verified Twitter Users’ Homes, Families and Finances - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:31] <exec> 08└─You linked to something that has no direct bearing on the topic. If you have an intended meaning you wish to communicate then state it plainly so people can engage with it instead of trying to play mind reader. Point scoring by innuendo is for cowards.
[21:09:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:stoking the fires? - 06WikiLeaks Proposes Tracking Verified Twitter Users’ Homes, Families and Finances - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:33] <exec> 08└─Reading comprehension, much? I linked to an article about bullshit reporting. EvilSS did the same, but he chose an article that is more directly pertinent. If you can't see the relevance, that is your failing, not mine.
[21:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:stoking the fires? - 06WikiLeaks Proposes Tracking Verified Twitter Users’ Homes, Families and Finances - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:35] <exec> 08└─So what? You linked to an article that you intend as some generic support for some non-specific criticism you are trying to make. What is your POINT? State your arguments up front and directly so that people can engage with them. To do otherwise is to admit your arguments are too weak too survive ex...
[21:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:stoking the fires? - 06WikiLeaks Proposes Tracking Verified Twitter Users’ Homes, Families and Finances - 684 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:37] <exec> 08└─WaPo. MSM. A tweet was posted, and subsequently deleted. I look at the scant evidence, and wonder WTF it was all about. And, I wonder WTF MSM even cares about Wikileaks. I'm fairly sure that Wikileaks isn't going to mandate that a database be kept on all verified accounts, along with the financial r...
[21:09:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:stoking the fires? - 06WikiLeaks Proposes Tracking Verified Twitter Users’ Homes, Families and Finances - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:39] <exec> 08└─You mean facts like how Russia infiltrated the US power grid? [fortune.com]
[21:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:stoking the fires? - 06WikiLeaks Proposes Tracking Verified Twitter Users’ Homes, Families and Finances - 645 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:42] <exec> 08└─You linked to an article that disproves your implied criticism. That Fortune article literally does the opposite of parroting the wapo article. Furthermore wapo published a prominent correction at the top of the article [washingtonpost.com] within 12 hours of publication and then published an indept...
[21:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:stoking the fires? - 06WikiLeaks Proposes Tracking Verified Twitter Users’ Homes, Families and Finances - 1239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:44] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure what words you are trying to put in my mouth, so let's be clear on this. My criticism of WaPo is this: Since Bezos bought them and targeted them to a younger audience, the quality of their reporting has plummeted. Their reporters now work with little editorial oversight, and being first...
[21:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:They deleted the tweet - 06WikiLeaks Proposes Tracking Verified Twitter Users’ Homes, Families and Finances - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:47] <exec> 08└─Maybe they were hacked by the Russians.
[21:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:They deleted the tweet - 06WikiLeaks Proposes Tracking Verified Twitter Users’ Homes, Families and Finances - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:49] <exec> 08└─The Russian Hackers are the mouth-breathers. How else could they unfold their nefarious anti-American plots from dim-lit decrepit broken-windowed soviet-era rusted warehouses? Need to keep the fingers warm even after they run out of vodka!
[21:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:stoking the fires? - 06WikiLeaks Proposes Tracking Verified Twitter Users’ Homes, Families and Finances - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:52] <exec> 08└─So basically Wikileaks wants to build a dox database of celebs, politicians, and reporters.
[21:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03termigator [4271] (Score:2) 02Re:Even easier... - 06Stolen Passwords Fuel Cardless ATM Fraud - 788 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:05] <exec> 08└─Yep. Had similar problems years ago happen to my mother's account. A regular withdraw was being made from her account. Some merchant had entered in account information wrong, so money was getting debited from her account. I asked the bank for proof that the merchant was authorized to debit the accou...
[21:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What should be the limits of power? - 06The FTC IoT Security Case Against D-Link is a Test of Power - 505 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:21] <exec> 08└─If that airline declares bankruptcy after the crash and fails to pay your family for killing you, you should have demanded a surety bond for your flight. FUCK YOU; wrong choice. Yeah, I know, its a little off-topic. I'm just not happy about IoT companies seeding homes with millions of vulnerable doo...
[21:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score:2) 02dd-wrt!! - 06The FTC IoT Security Case Against D-Link is a Test of Power - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:37] <exec> 08└─As far as routers are concerned, proprietary firmware really is just plain evil. You're lucky if they have one or two firmware updates and a year later, it sucks to be you. Fuck that. I finally bit the bullet recently and got a Linksys WRT1900ACS and installed dd-wrt. OMG...I should have done that a...
[21:10:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Hurtling? - 06Hubble Provides Interstellar Road Map for Voyagers' Galactic Trek - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:45] <exec> 08└─the Voyagers are hurtling through unexplored territory
[21:10:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:MIMO != phased array - 06Visualization of a Phased Array Antenna System - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:58] <exec> 08└─MIMO is a subset of phased arrays. And as a result, the assertions of the article are correct even when they're speaking of MIMOs.
[21:11:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:What if... - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:10] <exec> 08└─After getting location, just check which phone was closest to the location, whether it responded to the sound or not. Chances are good that was your phone.
[21:11:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Disable Javascript - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:22] <exec> 08└─Well. Actually, no. HTML5, flash, silverlight, java browser plug-in also have to be disabled, not just ECMAScript. And apps on nearby devices are also suspect.
[21:11:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:When do we start handling this in hardware? - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 536 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:43] <exec> 08└─They're usually not so much ultrasonic as so high that most people don't notice them or think it's just a hardware whine. A large part of why that's possible is that the manufacturer needs to be able to output all the possible frequencies in the spec and the people writing the spec years ago, weren'...
[21:11:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Bullshit - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:54] <exec> 08└─If it is a bot from a botnet, it will do all it can to not be noticed by you.
[21:12:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Executable permissions - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 1426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:01] <exec> 08└─These Linux installs are set up such that the daily user acct has no sudo perms. Even the default install in *n?x requires the user to explicitly grant permission for a download/install to be runnable. This makes the notion of a drive-by infection quite foreign to users of Linux and its kin. In cont...
[21:12:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02If it's not off-site, it's NOT a backup - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 547 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:14] <exec> 08└─If it's still in the same room as your computer, that 2nd copy is simply a "mirror". An actual backup will survive a fire, flood, or burglary. An actual backup is a copy that is in a safety deposit box, or (for your home system) in your desk at work, or at e.g. your Mom's place on the other side of...
[21:12:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:systemd - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:19] <exec> 08└─That's not a private tmpfs. And posted about two hours after an AC posted a link to the correct solution.
[21:12:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good, bad and ugly - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:27] <exec> 08└─#26/#30 are simply retarded. HTTPS Everywhere is retarded. I do not give a shit if my traffic to wunderground.com is logged. I just don't. Why do we need to expend gigawatt hours of electricity (half of which is on battery powered devices) to encrypt traffic that doesn't need protection?
[21:12:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Good, bad and ugly - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 1773 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:29] <exec> 08└─Let me introduce you to a concept called "risk and reward" Encrypting my streaming music brings so close to zero reward than the very high cost totally swamps it. The reward of encrypting MOST of my routine web activity is almost zero. The sites themselves are the menace to privacy, NoScript, FlashB...
[21:13:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:anonymous - 06Read the news like a spy - 1243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:07] <exec> 08└─My point is that you are confusing 2 things: The Democratic Party, and "progressive" as a label for political philosophy. The Democratic Party not only isn't a progressive party right now, they are actually quite hostile to people who would generally describe themselves as progressive, or the policy...
[21:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Why ? - 06Read the news like a spy - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:30] <exec> 08└─Where did I say ONLY Trump? And furthermore, why should we give up calling out their bullshit? Just because you gave up and are satisfied with a cock up your ass doesn't mean the rest of us have to sit like a bitch and take it.
[21:15:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Better to drop than... - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:15:09] <exec> 08└─Ahem, browsing what?
[21:15:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Better to drop than... - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:15:15] <exec> 08└─They proved he was a pedo through good old fashioned raiding his personal home computer physically.
[21:15:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Better to drop than... - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:15:24] <exec> 08└─Yup, which is why we haven't bothered changing the hashing algorithm or anything. That small of a key space you don't gain anything by using a better algorithm. Use our .onion site or a VPN if it bugs you too much.
[21:16:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Key quote from the article - 06Brexit: The Focus is on the EU Single Market - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:16:49] <exec> 08└─Stop talking sense. This is the Intertubes.
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[22:09:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:No were not! - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:09] <exec> 08└─You're certainly not obsessed with apostrophes. ;-)
[22:09:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:No were not! - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:10] <exec> 08└─It's the apostrophe's clip size restrictions what's done it.
[22:09:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:2) 02Re:No were not! - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:12] <exec> 08└─Say "obsessed with guns", one more goddamn time [youtube.com].
[22:09:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02terrible shit happens - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 3380 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:14] <exec> 08└─Eastern Nazarene college offers a timeline of genocides, in the 20th century. Their timeline is not all inclusive. http://libguides.enc.edu [enc.edu] Listverse has a list of the ten most atrocious genocides in human history. This list is not all inclusive, either. http://listverse...
[22:09:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:terrible shit happens - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:16] <exec> 08└─Those of you who claim that "violence never settles anything" are willfully blind [...] Violence is the human method of settling disputes. When the philosophers, the diplomats, the lawyers, and the clergy have all failed to settle things, the warriors come in and settle everything.
[22:09:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:terrible shit happens - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:19] <exec> 08└─Good response, and I thank you for that. I expect a lot of nonsense responses to my post, but this one is really good. I will remind you, however, that some of those settlements have been very permanent indeed. I intentionally listed several citations of genocide and gendercide.
[22:09:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score:2) 02Re:terrible shit happens - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:21] <exec> 08└─So, violence perhaps can "settle" stuff temporarily along with diplomacy or whatever too. But whatever methods you use to "settle" something, you should be prepared for similar methods to be revisited upon you or your children in the future. Violence does beget more violence; history shows that too....
[22:09:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Three main reasons - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:24] <exec> 08└─Third, hunting is seen as an alternative food source if apocalyptic conditions arise. Evangelicals are especially worried about such because they are often taught that the end times are near, based on their interpretation of scripture.
[22:09:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Three main reasons - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:26] <exec> 08└─And you can't kill the undead with a gun, no matter how powerful. I reckon Satan himself is impervious to anti-tank rounds and RPGs. You need something that squirts holy water or flings crucifixes at least 100 yards. Question is, though, is it Catholic or Protestant holy water?
[22:09:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Three main reasons - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:28] <exec> 08└─"Question is, though, is it Catholic or Protestant holy water?" Holy crap, what are you trying to do here? Start another Holy War?
[22:09:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Three main reasons - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:31] <exec> 08└─Second is distrust of the government or governments. It's seen as an insurance policy against some unspecified tyranny or takeover.
[22:09:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Three main reasons - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:33] <exec> 08└─" . . . to support the whole population for more than a week?)." By definition, the whold population doesn't survive an apocalyptic event. My only concern for the bulk of the population that didn't survive, is "where did they store their ammunition?"
[22:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2, Funny) 02Re:Three main reasons - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:35] <exec> 08└─I think you miss the prime reason. Obsession with guns is due to being prudish about sex and therefore continuously frustrated. Is there a higher gun fascination among right wing people?
[22:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Three main reasons - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 1111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:37] <exec> 08└─Its well known that "discovering girls" results in the temporary (decades) abandonment of ham radio as a hobby, so its not a completely ridiculous idea. What I observe is I don't see that in the shooting sports beyond the usual "old people have more spare time and more spare money" effect that appli...
[22:09:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Three main reasons - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:39] <exec> 08└─if one believes there is roughly a 1/3 chance of a mass uprising ... in one's lifetime
[22:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:Three main reasons - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 457 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:42] <exec> 08└─The thing is, these people are not the ones committing most of the gun crimes. In the US we have a crime problem and that won't go away if the guns go away. Yes, the murder rate would go down but it wouldn't address the source of the issue, and other violent crimes would continue at about the same r...
[22:09:43] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03number6x [903] 02How dangerous is this? - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 733 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:44] <exec> 08└─About 36,000 people in the US were killed by cars in 2016. http://www.nytimes.com [nytimes.com] We strive to make cars as safe as possible. We teach safe driving. We punish bad driving through financial and legal me...
[22:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:How dangerous is this? - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:46] <exec> 08└─I want to legalize this [wikipedia.org]. Or better yet, this [imdb.com]. Plz.
[22:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:How dangerous is this? - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:48] <exec> 08└─Sylvester Stallone was in that film. Recently it was rumoured that he was offered an appointment as chief administrator of the National Endowment for the Arts: After a report that Trump had offered the NEA chairmanship to Stallone, the actor on Sunday released a statement indicating he does not wan...
[22:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:How dangerous is this? - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:50] <exec> 08└─Or maybe if many Americans were constantly shooting for half an hour twice every day, there would be far more gun accidents?
[22:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:How dangerous is this? - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:52] <exec> 08└─If they're cutting in front of each other to shoot in their lane for no reason, while drinking, eating and checking their phone, or shooting drunk after the game because they have to go home, or shooting tired, in the snow, or with no too-expensive training...
[22:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:How dangerous is this? - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:55] <exec> 08└─So what you're saying is we should go to work by gun and defend ourselves with cars?
[22:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:How dangerous is this? - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:57] <exec> 08└─I think he's saying that if road vehicles were as unreliable as my M16 from basic training, then every time Muslims try to run people over with a truck, the truck would jam saving many lives. Or something like that.
[22:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:How dangerous is this? - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:59] <exec> 08└─Cars are much better at killing people than something designed to kill is at killing people.
[22:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:How dangerous is this? - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:01] <exec> 08└─Few gun owners fondle their weapons in the manner that car owners lavish affection on their cars. ;^)
[22:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How dangerous is this? - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:03] <exec> 08└─To quote the high commander: "Guns don't kill people. Physics kills people."
[22:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How dangerous is this? - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 534 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:06] <exec> 08└─The car / gun comparison is of limited use -- for example, it's useful when building a table of causes of mortality. People use cars primarily for moving themselves and their stuff around. Due to various causes, accidents happen which can be tragic, but very few car related deaths are on purpose. Pe...
[22:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03garrulus [6051] (Score:0, Flamebait) 02self reliance, distances, diversity - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:10:08] <exec> 08└─self reliance, distances (lebensraum) also play a big part, and america also has a big black people problem, etnic vibrancy note: having guns in usa is a given, a foundation, and although you strive to minimize it, it doesn't matter this comes at a price, this price is no surprise, it is included.
[22:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Because ... - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:10:10] <exec> 08└─...when seconds count, the Police are only minutes away. And that's the sad truth. A firearm is the last refuge of the home invasion, mugging, assault, and rape victim.
[22:10:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Statistics are incomplete - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 574 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:10:12] <exec> 08└─I don't know anyone who was injured or killed because of a gun, but I know three people who successfully defended themselves from attackers (muggings, maybe rape, possibly murder) because they were armed. In none of those cases did they need to actually shoot the attackers. Just the ability and appa...
[22:10:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Statistics are incomplete - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:14] <exec> 08└─Two weeks ago a couple of guys tried to rob my home. I stood them down with a baseball bat. I didn't report it to the police either because I don't talk to cops. Just because someone used a gun to stop a crime doesn't mean a gun was the only way to stop that crime.
[22:10:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02America's Original Sin - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 1165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:10:16] <exec> 08└─White people are too fragile to admit the obvious - the reason guns are a big deal in america is racism. The more racist someone is the more pro-gun they are. Sure not every pro-gun person is pro-racism. And yeah some black people own guns too - especially in neighborhoods where the cops bust people...
[22:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:America's Original Sin - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 586 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:19] <exec> 08└─It goes back farther than that. Gun control wasn't really a topic of political interest until after the Civil war. Suddenly southern states were trying to rewrite 100 years of case law and understanding of the meaning 2nd amendment to prevent newly freed blacks from being armed. The 2nd amendment be...
[22:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02ethnic - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 3698 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:10:21] <exec> 08└─Break it down by ethnic demographic group and the results are interesting. First of all, all my numbers vary year to year and decade to decade and I'm sure cherry picking can look better or worse so please no commentary about how I'm totally wrong about the 2013 white male murder rate in NYC vs the...
[22:10:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:ethnic - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:23] <exec> 08└─First of all, all my numbers vary year to year and decade to decade and I'm sure cherry picking can look better or worse so please no commentary about how I'm totally wrong about the 2013 white male murder rate in NYC vs the 1972 black male murder rate in Utah or something.
[22:10:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02VLM is a Congenital Liar - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:25] <exec> 08└─How could anybody dispute your use of statistics when you cite no actual statistics or other sources in your comment? It's indisputable!
[22:10:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:ethnic - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:27] <exec> 08└─> 60% of the population ruled by republicans where the demographics and violence and educational results are basically Scandinavia Have you checked the stats of the red states? That's some serious delusion, man...
[22:10:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:stoking the fires? - 06WikiLeaks Proposes Tracking Verified Twitter Users’ Homes, Families and Finances - 391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:43] <exec> 08└─> And, I wonder WTF MSM even cares about Wikileaks. Really? So now reporting on wikileaks isn't newsworthy. > trying to draw any conclusions at this point amounts to pure speculation WIkileaks has had plenty of opportunity to elaborate. That they did not is itself newsworthy. If an organization choo...
[22:10:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:stoking the fires? - 06WikiLeaks Proposes Tracking Verified Twitter Users’ Homes, Families and Finances - 911 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:47] <exec> 08└─> Since Bezos bought them and targeted them to a younger audience, the quality of their reporting has plummeted. Sounds like you just don't like Bezos and are an attributing industry wide phenomenon to his ownership. > The story was rushed to press, with no fact checking, no verification at all. At...
[22:10:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:stoking the fires? - 06WikiLeaks Proposes Tracking Verified Twitter Users’ Homes, Families and Finances - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:49] <exec> 08└─Epistomoligists should be having a field day. Their subject is becoming front-page news. When is a fact a fact? Certainly not because it was written up as one in the Washington Post. Why can't we build up trust over the internet? Truth is becoming slippery now that anyone can publish anything. Are t...
[22:11:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:The real story: crappy security - 06Stolen Passwords Fuel Cardless ATM Fraud - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:05] <exec> 08└─Seems to me you answered your own questions when posting your first point: How did the thieves get her account number and password
[22:11:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What should be the limits of power? - 06The FTC IoT Security Case Against D-Link is a Test of Power - 679 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:34] <exec> 08└─> Should the FTC be able to take action against the vendor of a toaster that is known to burn down people's homes? No, but if the item is FCC marked then the consumer should be able to sue. > When I buy an appliance device (eg, smart tv, router, light bulb) I don't expect it to get hacked and partic...
[22:12:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:Disable Javascript - 06Ultrasound Tracking Could be Used to Deanonymize Tor Users - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:12:25] <exec> 08└─I have stopped suggesting anti-viruses for the average user. If you tell the average user that they have an anti-virus installed, they become complacent and assume it will catch anything bad. The Sony-BMG rootkit [wikipedia.org] scandal (never forget!) was probably my wake-up call that anti-virus so...
[22:13:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good, bad and ugly - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:32] <exec> 08└─You catch more flies with honey than vinegar, you know. Or to put it in language you can understand, you don't have to be a cock, you *choose* to be a cock, then other people choose to avoid you.
[22:14:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:anonymous - 06Read the news like a spy - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:12] <exec> 08└─The Democratic Party is as Progressive as they think they can win elections as. But I think you have some misconceptions about what Progressive is. Marijuana would be legal under federal law.
[22:16:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Guilty as Shit! We all know it. - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:16:03] <exec> 08└─If catching a pedo is that important - which it is
[22:16:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Victory for Due Process - 06FBI Let Alleged Pedo Walk Free Rather Than Explain How They Snared Him - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:16:08] <exec> 08└─Pizzagate is ridiculous, but the actual source isn't that questionable. It's been practically admitted already on numerous occasions that the emails were real.
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[23:09:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02No - 06Quantum Computing, Coming Soon for Real? - 462 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:09] <exec> 08└─No. Until one of these so called "quantum" computers demonstrates the ability to process quantum logic gates [wikipedia.org] under the scrutiny of a reputable academic organization, it's safe to assume they are simply running a funding scam. So far, not a single so-called "quantum" computer has been...
[23:09:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:No - 06Quantum Computing, Coming Soon for Real? - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:10] <exec> 08└─Google and Microsoft are running a scam, or being scammed?
[23:09:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02So, in other words . . . - 06Quantum Computing, Coming Soon for Real? - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:12] <exec> 08└─Still about 20 years off.
[23:09:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] 02Re:terrible shit happens - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 282 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:28] <exec> 08└─Those of you who claim that "violence never settles anything" are willfully blind [...] Violence is the human method of settling disputes. When the philosophers, the diplomats, the lawyers, and the clergy have all failed to settle things, the warriors come in and settle everything.
[23:09:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:terrible shit happens - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:30] <exec> 08└─I expect a lot of nonsense responses to my post,
[23:09:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:terrible shit happens - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:32] <exec> 08└─Because he has a massively-inflated opinion of himself and his worldview, and any replies that don't mesh with it in several key ways are "nonsensical."
[23:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:terrible shit happens - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:34] <exec> 08└─If you can't refute what the guy says, insult him, eh? Weak Troll is weak.
[23:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Roger Murdock [4897] (Score:1) 02Re:terrible shit happens - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:37] <exec> 08└─Because everybody else is wrong
[23:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:terrible shit happens - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 488 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:39] <exec> 08└─All that proves is "if you're gonna use violence, use it very, very well." Which is true, of course; violence begets more violence in retaliation, unless you commit complete and utter genocide. Violence has its place. Two wrongs don't make a right, but sometimes they prevent a third, fourth, etc. wr...
[23:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:terrible shit happens - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 1976 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:42] <exec> 08└─> then you can try destroying them physically, but the Nazis were really the last ones to try something like that I hear that there are people in the Balkans, the Middle East, Rwanda, and Central and South Asia who would really love it if you grabbed a recent history book... > in Europe, who histori...
[23:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03fadrian [3194] (Score:2) 02Re:Three main reasons - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:48] <exec> 08└─Holy crap, what are you trying to do here? Start another Holy War? That depends on which superstition you adhere to - emacs or vi...
[23:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Three main reasons - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:50] <exec> 08└─Vi, for the record. Emacs is the superstition.
[23:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Three main reasons - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:52] <exec> 08└─I bet you never actually used vi, only vim.
[23:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Three main reasons - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:55] <exec> 08└─Heathens. Nano is the One True Editor (TM). Vi is a strange form of black magic and Emacs is...well, it's a neat little text-mode OS but MAN does its text editor blow...
[23:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Three main reasons - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:57] <exec> 08└─Get the water blessed by both. Assuming it doesn't cancel each other out at least.
[23:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Three main reasons - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:03] <exec> 08└─> red or blue pill consumption Let me guess, you took the red one? Cripes, if I roll my eyes any harder they're gonna get stuck staring at their own optic nerves...
[23:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Three main reasons - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 1491 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:07] <exec> 08└─The second one is the primary one. Without privately owned guns, there would not be a United States of America; there would be a bunch of British colonies. First privately owned guns created this nation. Then in the early 1800s ensured the continuation of this nation. Then in the middle of the 1800s...
[23:10:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:How dangerous is this? - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 558 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:16] <exec> 08└─Those M16s in Basic training have been seen, handled, and deep cleaned by hundreds of recruits using allowed and non allowed methods of cleaning. I have seen those weapons with no rifling left over. Not to mention that originally many of them were the full auto version that was converted to semi aut...
[23:10:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score:2) 02Re:Because ... - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 1489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:24] <exec> 08└─When I was in college five years ago we had a situation where the University wanted to ban firearms on campus because of all of the school shootings. There was protest by the student population because it was in Alaska and guns are very much part of the culture, I only knew a few people who carried...
[23:10:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Because ... - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:26] <exec> 08└─As an aside I am unsure why someone who is planning to shoot up a school would care that guns are banned
[23:10:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Because ... - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 406 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:29] <exec> 08└─My experience with campus carry in a rural entertainment state is trying to make life miserable for hunters who just want to go hunting on Friday night instead of (or while) getting drunk. All kinds of insanity about banning guns in the dorms. Also ROTC is notoriously not looked at favorably by left...
[23:10:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Because ... - 06Why Are Americans So Obsessed With Guns? - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:31] <exec> 08└─Don't gun shop owners already have discretion to in turning away customers? Or am I missing something? But that would lower revenues, therefore profits. This is America. Profit is more important than the lives of people who might be killed by a creepy customer that makes the hair on the back of your...
[23:10:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:stoking the fires? - 06WikiLeaks Proposes Tracking Verified Twitter Users’ Homes, Families and Finances - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:57] <exec> 08└─Maybe there's a wink-wink, nudge-nudge "legitimate" reason for collecting address/contact info for these folks. Hard to see what possible legitimate reason there could be to collect their family-member's info, though.
[23:11:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:What should be the limits of power? - 06The FTC IoT Security Case Against D-Link is a Test of Power - 1189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:11:37] <exec> 08└─Except they have zero proof this toaster ever burnt a single home, they are just saying it MIGHT at some time in the future POSSIBLY burn down a home. I'm sorry but people here are waaaay too fucking trusting to not see the nastiness at play here, we're talking about busting a company not for what t...
[23:13:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03shipofgold [4696] (Score:2) 02Re:''vulnerability [...] depends on the user'' - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 1703 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:09] <exec> 08└─Expand your knowledge base. For starters, investigate Linux permissions. Say what? You think running as a normal user doesn't open you up to vulnerabilities? I can stash malware in a 1000 different places under a normal user account that most people with your "expanded knowledge base" would never f...
[23:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Burz [6156] (Score:1) 02Re:Good, bad and ugly - 0650 Ways to Avoid Getting Hacked in 2017 - 2370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:35] <exec> 08└─This all proves that you can't get excellent security from a large, monolithic kernel like Linux. Security features share context with (way) too many other features. Qubes OS bases its security on Xen, a 1MB hypervisor that runs on bare metal. The (risky) NIC and USB controllers are isolated inside...
[23:14:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Division of labour - 06Read the news like a spy - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:08] <exec> 08└─You only say that because khallow is responding to an AC!
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