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[00:22:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"the young ones" - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:22:28] <exec> 08└─i.e. up to 44 years [soylentnews.org]
[00:22:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Cocaine - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 448 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:22:29] <exec> 08└─<sarcasm>Apparently, there was a time when soothing syrup for children wasn't only alcohol- and sugar-based. It also was laced with cocaine. A blast of cocaine would tranquilize even the most colicky child. That seems to be the solution.</sarcasm>In all seriousness, once a child gets beyond a certai...
[00:22:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Cocaine - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:22:31] <exec> 08└─cocaine would tranquilize
[00:22:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Techwolf [87] (Score:2) 02Why? - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:22:33] <exec> 08└─Why isolate the child or baby from the parents for sleep? I'me sure during caveman days, they did not have cribs to put kids into. I think this may have something to do with it.
[00:22:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02melatonin - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:22:36] <exec> 08└─Give them 3 mg of melatonin. Consult your pediatrician first.
[00:22:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Food Pyramid - 06Nutrition Data Review Shows Red Meat Has Neutral Effect on Cardiovascular Disease Risk Factors - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:22:46] <exec> 08└─Fake comment! The food pyramid is not horrible
[00:22:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Really - 06Nutrition Data Review Shows Red Meat Has Neutral Effect on Cardiovascular Disease Risk Factors - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:22:53] <exec> 08└─> We really don't need scientists to tell people this stuff. You wouldn't believe the things people will believe from completely unreliable sources ... if you slept through 2016, that is.
[00:22:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Settled science - 06Nutrition Data Review Shows Red Meat Has Neutral Effect on Cardiovascular Disease Risk Factors - 683 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:22:55] <exec> 08└─What? Ya mean the science isn't settled? Folks, we see these every week or so now. And it is a heck of a lot easier to study whether eating fat makes you fat, or eating red meat will actually kill you than some of the more outrageous claims we hear from "settled science." It is all corrupted at this...
[00:22:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Settled science - 06Nutrition Data Review Shows Red Meat Has Neutral Effect on Cardiovascular Disease Risk Factors - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:22:57] <exec> 08└─Who needs science when we've got the Quran?
[00:23:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hm... - 06Investigations of the Skyrmion Hall Effect Reveal Surprising Results - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:23:07] <exec> 08└─You do know that's pretty much the opposite of how the internet generally works.
[00:23:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What the hell is a whorl? - 06Investigations of the Skyrmion Hall Effect Reveal Surprising Results - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:23:11] <exec> 08└─I'd mod you up if I weren't an AC, for bringing back the cowlick reference from yesterday! Booya!
[00:23:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:100 PB hard drive - 06Investigations of the Skyrmion Hall Effect Reveal Surprising Results - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:23:17] <exec> 08└─Proof: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] Level 6.2 already defines: 3,840×2,160@300.0 4,096×2,160@300.0 7,680×4,320@128.0 8,192×4,320@120.0
[00:23:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:must be the hangover - 06Investigations of the Skyrmion Hall Effect Reveal Surprising Results - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:23:20] <exec> 08└─You might be an alkie if January 3 is almost over and you've got a hangover.
[00:23:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:must be the hangover - 06Investigations of the Skyrmion Hall Effect Reveal Surprising Results - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:23:22] <exec> 08└─LOL, it works because no matter who is reading it, they're on SoylentNews so it is to some degree guaranteed to be true.
[00:24:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hope Not - 06President Gorbachev’s Last Phone Call - 426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:24:00] <exec> 08└─> If he does start to show weakness, he will be crushed. Hmmm, who does Russia get for a leader if Putin goes down? Anyone? A figurehead put there by Russian oil money? I'm asking because Trump may just be clever enough to get Putin to show some weakness. Not saying this would be a good thing for T...
[00:28:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:re Jobs - 06Foxconn Plans to Replace Nearly All Human Workers With Robots in Some Factories - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:28:39] <exec> 08└─The automation makes some more jobs viable by reducing the value of human labor.
[00:29:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02missing link to article - 06Foxconn Plans to Replace Nearly All Human Workers With Robots in Some Factories - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:29:14] <exec> 08└─A link to the source of the quote [theverge.com] was omitted from the summary.
[00:29:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aristarchus [2645] 02Re:Russian hacking - 06Washington Post Publishes False Story About Hacking USA Electric Grid - 190 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:29:31] <exec> 08└─Remember the Mirror of jmorris! Abandon reason, all ye who gaze into it! Remember the Three Laws of jmorris: 1. jmorris Always Lies 2. jmorris Always Doubles Down 3. jmorris Always Projects
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[01:22:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"the young ones" - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:22:27] <exec> 08└─In that case, a bottom of the shelf whiskey could work.
[01:22:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:"the young ones" - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:22:29] <exec> 08└─s/could/does/
[01:22:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cocaine - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:22:33] <exec> 08└─I'm pretty sure that was a typo. The syrup contained "codeine" not "cocaine".
[01:22:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Why? - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:22:36] <exec> 08└─In the meantime, we built a society where people do go to bed later than the sunset and their children. And we somehow invented a mild disapproval for clubbing noisy brats over the head to help them sleep.
[01:22:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03mth [2848] (Score:2) 02Re:Why? - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:22:38] <exec> 08└─It also seems strange to me why they would call sleep associations that require a parent "problematic"; inconvenient for the parent maybe, not I don't see why they'd be inherently bad.
[01:22:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03mechanicjay [7] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Why? - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 1507 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:22:40] <exec> 08└─Inclined to agree. There's thousands of years of evolution, which the invention of the electrified suburban existence has a hard time competing against. Our 3 year old wakes up at about midnight and comes to our bed. Every night. Our just 6 year old stays in his own bed all night now, but when he...
[01:22:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:melatonin - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 784 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:22:44] <exec> 08└─Every pediatrician will tell you not to do that (if one does then find a better pediatrician). Melatonin isn't even legal in every country. Getting a kid's body hooked on externally sourced melatonin is an excellent way to fuck them up for the rest of their life (modern society doesn't tolerate slee...
[01:22:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:4, Funny) 02Gin - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:22:46] <exec> 08└─Give your baby gin [youtube.com]!
[01:22:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Gin - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:22:48] <exec> 08└─My grandmother said her parents gave her and her siblings poppy-water pacifiers. Nothing like a dose of opium to send the little ones to sleep! And also explains some things about my gran.
[01:22:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Gin - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:22:50] <exec> 08└─> some things about my gran. Such as??
[01:22:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02I suck at going to sleep - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 608 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:22:53] <exec> 08└─Always have, probably always will. I'm talking 30-60 minutes minimum in bed before I actually go to sleep. I didn't even realize it wasn't normal until I was maybe 12, when I realized all my Boy Scout tent-mates were asleep within a minute or two of turning out the light. Me? I can't sleep in a car,...
[01:23:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Food Pyramid - 06Nutrition Data Review Shows Red Meat Has Neutral Effect on Cardiovascular Disease Risk Factors - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:23:04] <exec> 08└─... diet taught in public schools directly lead to today's obesity epidemic and the declining life expectancy among the middle-aged American population.
[01:23:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Really - 06Nutrition Data Review Shows Red Meat Has Neutral Effect on Cardiovascular Disease Risk Factors - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:23:10] <exec> 08└─Everything in moderation.
[01:23:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score:2) 02Re:Settled science - 06Nutrition Data Review Shows Red Meat Has Neutral Effect on Cardiovascular Disease Risk Factors - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:23:14] <exec> 08└─What? Ya mean the science isn't settled? Folks, we see these every week or so now. And it is a heck of a lot easier to study whether eating fat makes you fat, or eating red meat will actually kill you than some of the more outrageous claims we hear from "settled science."
[01:23:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score:1) 02Bubble memory! - 06Investigations of the Skyrmion Hall Effect Reveal Surprising Results - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:23:34] <exec> 08└─I never gave up on you, welcome back Bubble Memory https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org].
[01:24:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No comparison - 06President Gorbachev’s Last Phone Call - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:24:08] <exec> 08└─George H.W. Bush worked for the CIA; Vladimir Putin worked for the KGB and FSB. Mikhail Gorbachev was the last (only) president of the USSR before it dissolved; Barack Obama...
[01:26:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Re:No thank you - 06GM & Ford Introduce New 9-Speed Automatic Transmission - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:26:15] <exec> 08└─Damnit! There is no cloud where I'm driving, only kangaroos... insensitive American car manufacturers..
[01:28:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:No company does it if... - 06Foxconn Plans to Replace Nearly All Human Workers With Robots in Some Factories - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:28:59] <exec> 08└─I'll just note here that global income [voxeu.org] is increasing above inflation at a substantial rate (two thirds of humanity grew their income by 30% or more over a recent 20 year period, the median global income rose by more than 60%). The world is nothing like your narrative.
[01:29:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:No company does it if... - 06Foxconn Plans to Replace Nearly All Human Workers With Robots in Some Factories - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:29:01] <exec> 08└─Here again Marxist concepts are very useful.
[01:29:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:No company does it if... - 06Foxconn Plans to Replace Nearly All Human Workers With Robots in Some Factories - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:29:04] <exec> 08└─Here again Marxist concepts are very useful.
[01:29:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:No company does it if... - 06Foxconn Plans to Replace Nearly All Human Workers With Robots in Some Factories - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:29:09] <exec> 08└─Most humans are becoming more and more useless. A small minority with ultra-specialized skills are becoming more and more valuable.
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[02:22:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02cyber - 06U.S. Military Could Deploy More "Cyber Weapons" Against ISIS - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:22:29] <exec> 08└─Cyber! Cyber! Cybercats!
[02:22:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score:2) 02Re:Cocaine - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 1380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:22:43] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately some people live in an environment where they do not have this luxury. Hard for a person living in an appartment to do this when they have a neighbor that will hit the wall with a broom, or where they have to share a room with the baby. My personal situation is living with an alzheimer...
[02:22:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Why? - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 644 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:22:48] <exec> 08└─I read to my children most nights right after they go to bed. Typically I read to them awhile, then put on an audiobook or sometimes music, and I usually sit near them for awhile, surfing the net on my laptop. The original reason this worked out this way was because we couldn't get them to stay in b...
[02:22:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03charon [5660] (Score:1) 02Re:I suck at going to sleep - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:22:56] <exec> 08└─Similar with me. Sometimes I feel exhausted but spend hours tossing and turning.
[02:22:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:I suck at going to sleep - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 537 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:22:58] <exec> 08└─Similar. My "norm" is to lie awake for half an hour or more. My mind stays busy, just won't turn off. But, there are other times when my head hits the pillow, and I'm gone. Naturally, if I'm extremely tired, the times is shorter, and if I'm not really tired, the time is longer. But, I can't always p...
[02:23:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Trauma - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:23:01] <exec> 08└─Did you subject your son to the horrors of circumcision? I suspect that it would be psychologically disturbing to have had one's penis cut up, especially when there is usually so little an attempt to mitigate the pain.
[02:23:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Food Pyramid - 06Nutrition Data Review Shows Red Meat Has Neutral Effect on Cardiovascular Disease Risk Factors - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:23:11] <exec> 08└─Also fruit juices. Many people think those are healthy, but they're just sugary drinks, even if the sugar is naturally present in the fruit. Eating the whole fruit is much healthier.
[02:23:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:2) 02Re:Settled science - 06Nutrition Data Review Shows Red Meat Has Neutral Effect on Cardiovascular Disease Risk Factors - 1035 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:23:24] <exec> 08└─I think you need to clarify your point. My take is that a lot of stuff is called ‘science’ because it has a dignified, trustworthy aura. In Law School (which I attended) they call law a ‘science’ but I, being an engineer first, had to suppress laughter. There is no ‘science’ in law, at l...
[02:24:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:It's all so stupid - 06President Gorbachev’s Last Phone Call - 1694 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:24:09] <exec> 08└─Well I've got lots, but what would be useful for you would probably depend on what areas of concern you have with ancap thinking (and possibly on what you've already read). A very good recommendation, I think, is Murray Rothbard's book about money [mises.org]. It was an utter shock to me to learn th...
[02:24:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ikanreed [3164] 02Re:Reducing government regulation? - 06House GOP Votes To Strip Independence From Congressional Ethics Office - 488 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:24:58] <exec> 08└─It was always abundantly clear that the people using the phrase "drain the swamp" were adamantly pro-corruption(or actually corrupt) in everything but words. Actual anti-corruption reform takes, you know, a plan, and a methodology. The minority of Americans that voted for the republicans who control...
[02:25:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:"Independent" - 06House GOP Votes To Strip Independence From Congressional Ethics Office - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:25:42] <exec> 08└─I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
[02:25:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:"Independent" - 06House GOP Votes To Strip Independence From Congressional Ethics Office - 940 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:25:43] <exec> 08└─Okay, you've clearly missed the multiple times I've disparaged Trump then. You've also obviously missed every post I've made in support of individual liberty and equality. If those make me hard-right in your eyes, you really need to rethink your scale. That I despise Democrats and progressives more...
[02:29:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:No company does it if... - 06Foxconn Plans to Replace Nearly All Human Workers With Robots in Some Factories - 1143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:29:18] <exec> 08└─aristarchus, we've played this game for some time. Marx is a mediocre philosopher who chose to ignore a great deal of reality in his time. His writing is terrible and crammed full of a variety of fallacies and dreadful reasoning. And we've since found that Marxism is broken in a variety of ways. W...
[02:29:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:No company does it if... - 06Foxconn Plans to Replace Nearly All Human Workers With Robots in Some Factories - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:29:19] <exec> 08└─Yes, and I grow tired of repeating myself! And we've since found that Marxism is broken in a variety of ways.
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[03:22:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Market manipulation! - 06U.S. Military Could Deploy More "Cyber Weapons" Against ISIS - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:22:31] <exec> 08└─What? Trump will tweet something and make their stock price crash! That will be the end of ISIS! It will be huge!
[03:22:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kilo110 [2853] (Score:2) 02"Cyber" - 06U.S. Military Could Deploy More "Cyber Weapons" Against ISIS - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:22:32] <exec> 08└─Am I the only one that feels only tech-illiterate people seriously use the word cyber? I wish that died off along with" information super highway "
[03:22:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Cyber" - 06U.S. Military Could Deploy More "Cyber Weapons" Against ISIS - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:22:35] <exec> 08└─The proper name is Khyber: it is a pass between Afghanistan and Pakistan, kind of the arsehole of the Hindu Kush.
[03:22:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Just think if the NSA was on our side - 06U.S. Military Could Deploy More "Cyber Weapons" Against ISIS - 706 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:22:37] <exec> 08└─90% of the "weapons" they can deploy attack holes in the systems we use every day. Just think if the NSA would document the holes they plan to exploit, and let the vendors patch them. 99% of the American public would have safer computing environments. Then again, 99% of the foreign public would also...
[03:22:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03microtodd [1866] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Why? - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:22:56] <exec> 08└─(posting anonymously cause I'm embarrassed) To be bluntly honest? Sex. I can't have sex with my wife when the kids co-sleep with us.
[03:22:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03microtodd [1866] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Why? - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:22:58] <exec> 08└─.......well shit
[03:22:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why? - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:23:00] <exec> 08└─Because your wife laughs that the baby is more hung than you?
[03:23:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why? - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:23:02] <exec> 08└─Because they didn't have soft beds either. Now you can roll over and suffocate the baby in your sleep. Also we don't know how caveman raised their babies.
[03:24:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hope Not - 06President Gorbachev’s Last Phone Call - 437 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:24:36] <exec> 08└─> Trump may just be clever enough to get Putin to show some weakness. Fat chance. If Putin does something stupid as a result of Trump its going to be nothing more than supremely bad luck on Putin's part. Trump is not a 4D-chess grandmaster. He's just the "right man" for the times. Without twitter an...
[03:24:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Hope Not - 06President Gorbachev’s Last Phone Call - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:24:37] <exec> 08└─I think its the opposite though. He created the oligarchs.
[03:27:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02polymorphic malware - 06New Software Continuously Scrambles Code to Foil Cyber Attacks - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:27:33] <exec> 08└─It did . A long time ago. Like well over a decade. Its called polymorphic malware. [techtarget.com]
[03:29:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Elephant graph - 06Foxconn Plans to Replace Nearly All Human Workers With Robots in Some Factories - 1177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:29:36] <exec> 08└─A lot at the bottom (undeveloped) went up. So did the few ones at the top (top of developed). And the ones in the top middle (developed and in development) got all the crap while still working like mules to make ends meet. So excuse me if western, latin america or ex communists are not happy about h...
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[04:22:30] <exec> 08└─I believe that's about 2,000 years before the last North American Pokémon went extinct going by the oblig XKCD diagram.
[04:22:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Cyber" - 06U.S. Military Could Deploy More "Cyber Weapons" Against ISIS - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:22:42] <exec> 08└─I think the trick is to imagine it in the context of when it was a verb. If one cybered with somebody, they had pretend sex over text chat. If nothing else, it makes these headlines hilarious.
[04:23:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Why? - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 2758 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:23:02] <exec> 08└─I have to agree with this. There are all sorts of judgmental folks who have opinions about the "correct" way to parent or what is "problematic" (generally with no conclusive studies ever backing it up). Kids have been raised in all sorts of different ways in all sorts of different cultures over the...
[04:23:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why? - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:23:09] <exec> 08└─Not called microtodd for nothing, you know.
[04:23:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Why? - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 1164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:23:11] <exec> 08└─Just to note -- it is generally possible to find somewhere else for parents to do what they want. Get creative! Surely you must have had sex somewhere else than the bed before the kid came along? Most young kids tend to go into a very deep sleep (particularly if they're really tired) soon after they...
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[04:23:22] <exec> 08└─I'd say try sex, except you're 58.
[04:23:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:2) 02Re:I suck at going to sleep - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 447 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:23:24] <exec> 08└─I had the same problem and found a solution that looks stupid, but works for me. The problem is an overactive brain that won’t shutdown until exhausted so you need a particularly boring problem to get it to shutdown. My solution is to count from 1 to 100 very slowly, not allowing any other thought...
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[04:23:26] <exec> 08└─Are you sure? I used to think that was the case, then I started going to sleep with a brainwave monitor and most nights that hour was more like 15 minutes, but time tends to get distorted as you get closer to sleep. If it is taking that long to fall asleep, that's not normal, most likely, it means y...
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[04:23:29] <exec> 08└─Yes, you are off topic, so I cannot mod you up. Certainly, it would not apply in all/most cases since I think most males can heal successfully from ritual male genital mutilation. My ex-mother reported that for the first two years of my life I was inconsolable when I should have been sleeping. I hav...
[04:23:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score:2) 02My solution - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 463 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:23:31] <exec> 08└─I find that my offspring enjoy my warm chunky vomit down their throats before bed, as well as putting new entrails in their pillows, because stale entrails don't taste fresh for their late night feedings, and indigestion makes it hard to resume hibernation. Might also try removing the parasites from...
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[04:23:51] <exec> 08└─Averaged out over a week, a month? It just points at what I said - don't have it every damn day or for every meal. How often would a caveman gave eaten red meat? Rarely. But when he did it was a month's worth over the space of a few days before it went off. Moderation, not sticking to guidlines to f...
[04:26:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Independent" - 06House GOP Votes To Strip Independence From Congressional Ethics Office - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:26:17] <exec> 08└─And if your history/social studies teachers didn't drum pro-government propaganda into your head, why are you such an authoritarian asshole?
[04:26:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:"Independent" - 06House GOP Votes To Strip Independence From Congressional Ethics Office - 648 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:26:18] <exec> 08└─Naturally the reason I'm an "Authoritarian" is because you've immersed yourself so deep into libertarian ideology you've separated yourself from common and/or accurate defintions of words and redefined them to simply be anyone not as batshit as you. The reason I'm an asshole is because, holy fuck, A...
[04:27:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02Re:Any fool can tear shit down. - 06New Software Continuously Scrambles Code to Foil Cyber Attacks - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:27:51] <exec> 08└─Why are you so interested in focusing on the places where it is not practical?
[04:28:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Hard work never killed anyone - 06French Workers Win 'Right to Disconnect' - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:28:50] <exec> 08└─Oh, you were trying to be funny? Well, Bogs, it's been said that wit is intellect dancing. Unfortunately, your intellect appears to be a quadraplegic. And it thinks the equivalent of "Achy Breaky Heart" is the new in thing.
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[05:22:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fatty, fatty, two-by-four - 06The Future of Leia in the Star Wars Cinematic Universe - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:22:22] <exec> 08└─Just replace her with bikini Leia. No one wants the fat-blob version of Leia.
[05:22:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Disney resurrects Leia Fisher - 06The Future of Leia in the Star Wars Cinematic Universe - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:22:24] <exec> 08└─Mass walkouts and riots caused by next Star Wars popcorn buster.
[05:22:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Disney resurrects Leia Fisher - 06The Future of Leia in the Star Wars Cinematic Universe - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:22:26] <exec> 08└─Will they give her digital liposuction and a facelift so she doesn't look like a saggy-faced lardass?
[05:22:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Refute - 06Studies Refute Hypothesis on What Caused Abrupt Climate Change Thousands of Years Ago - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:22:37] <exec> 08└─What is being refuted according to this summary?
[05:22:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Refute - 06Studies Refute Hypothesis on What Caused Abrupt Climate Change Thousands of Years Ago - 859 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:22:39] <exec> 08└─Nothing as the summary doesn't contain that data. But don't blame the poster as he simply copied that paragraph from the article instead of writing an actual summary. Instead, read the next paragraph: Each paper shows that the evidence and interpretations supporting these two lines of arguments do...
[05:22:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Re:Refute - 06Studies Refute Hypothesis on What Caused Abrupt Climate Change Thousands of Years Ago - 430 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:22:41] <exec> 08└─No, but it did summarize it saying that if was similar to the first line of evidence which is the markers used interpret the cause is misinterpreted or misidentified. So in summary, 2 different independent research looked at 2 of the initial research that came together to hypothesis that it was caus...
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[05:23:32] <exec> 08└─Ah, so we finally figure out what Aristarchus' problem is. His wee-wee is damaged.
[05:23:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Settled science - 06Nutrition Data Review Shows Red Meat Has Neutral Effect on Cardiovascular Disease Risk Factors - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:23:57] <exec> 08└─Why yes, yes he is. This guy's got an axe to grind, and he grinds it so much I'm amazed it hasn't been reduced to a small knife by now.
[05:24:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02For Skyrim! - 06Investigations of the Skyrmion Hall Effect Reveal Surprising Results - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:24:20] <exec> 08└─Erm...Skyrmion!
[05:26:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:GOP is unethical - 06House GOP Votes To Strip Independence From Congressional Ethics Office - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:26:03] <exec> 08└─And I regularly moderate ACs up if they post something deserving of it. Moderation is to make good posts visible, not for political BS.
[05:27:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Honda no longer so well made - 06GM & Ford Introduce New 9-Speed Automatic Transmission - 2549 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:27:39] <exec> 08└─No, don't get a Toyota. They suck and they're boring. Get a Mazda instead; they're fantastic cars these days, reliable, extremely fuel-efficient (for the power level), and very importantly, fun to drive. However, I do want to address some of your points about Hondas: 1) full synthetic every 5k miles...
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[05:28:41] <exec> 08└─I am not saying that it should exist or it is right. I am highlighting the area where problem exists vs. the agent exploiting that area. Banks are just leeches and they are not going to go away because they are part of human nature. Government involvement in policy development of higher education, t...
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[06:22:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Icehouse lager - 06NASA Might Build an Ice House on Mars - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:22:17] <exec> 08└─You're not fooling anyone. We know NAZA is building a place for Musky to liquor up his honeys when he rockets his harem to Mars.
[06:22:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Re:Disney resurrects Leia Fisher - 06The Future of Leia in the Star Wars Cinematic Universe - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:22:27] <exec> 08└─No, having completely repudiated Michelle Obama's anti-obesity initiatives, the American public will demand that digital Fisher be made fatter to reflect their new standard of beauty.
[06:22:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Disney resurrects Leia Fisher - 06The Future of Leia in the Star Wars Cinematic Universe - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:22:28] <exec> 08└─Sounds groce, bruh.
[06:22:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Disney resurrects Leia Fisher - 06The Future of Leia in the Star Wars Cinematic Universe - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:22:30] <exec> 08└─Quite a feat since she already looked morbidly obese.
[06:22:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:3, Informative) 02I'll finally get to use my line - 06The Future of Leia in the Star Wars Cinematic Universe - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:22:33] <exec> 08└─It's hard to say; after all, Harrison Ford may very well be returning to Episode VIII, if this casting-call announcement from late 2015 is legitimate.
[06:22:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'll finally get to use my line - 06The Future of Leia in the Star Wars Cinematic Universe - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:22:35] <exec> 08└─Might just be for flashback scenes though. We haven’t been shown much of what happened to make Kylo Ren turn to the Dark Side.
[06:22:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'll finally get to use my line - 06The Future of Leia in the Star Wars Cinematic Universe - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:22:37] <exec> 08└─His daddy touched his peepee.
[06:22:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02He was trying to ragequit the series... - 06The Future of Leia in the Star Wars Cinematic Universe - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:22:39] <exec> 08└─After realizing the sequels were going to be as big of a hackjob on the Star Wars future EU, as the prequels had been on the past EU as well the original trilogy :) Sadly they caught it all on tape and it turned into the very movie his force premonitions had caused him to fall to the dark side while...
[06:22:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The Answer is Obvious - 06The Future of Leia in the Star Wars Cinematic Universe - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:22:41] <exec> 08└─She will continue on in the Star Wars saga the way she did in the first movie - as a hologram!
[06:22:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Peter Cushing - 06The Future of Leia in the Star Wars Cinematic Universe - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:22:43] <exec> 08└─They managed to resurrect Peter Cushing 22 years after he died for Rogue One, and he had quite a bit of screen time there, possibly even more than he ever had in ANH. They made the 21-year old Carrie Fisher from 1977 appear onscreen in the same film, albeit for a much briefer appearance. I don’t s...
[06:22:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Peter Cushing - 06The Future of Leia in the Star Wars Cinematic Universe - 541 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:22:46] <exec> 08└─I found both of those CGI characters a bit disturbing, uncanny valley is still here folks! Not sure what I think about the valley disappearing.... truth and news will truly become fluid, though it has all been so bastardized already I don't know if there will be much difference. I can only hope that...
[06:22:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The only think holding it back now... - 06The Future of Leia in the Star Wars Cinematic Universe - 416 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:22:48] <exec> 08└─Is lack of sufficient quantities of light/depth sensors to match rendered scenes or characters to their green-screened or shopped in counterparts. As soon as they can do that (or the tech reached Hollywood, rather than just used for grainy videos to convict people/start wars) the line between fantas...
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[06:22:50] <exec> 08└─Star journalists will be bloggers, and just like rockstar coders, they will be completely full of bullshit.
[06:23:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Trauma - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:23:54] <exec> 08└─That sounds more like Kurenai than Aristarchus...
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[06:24:22] <exec> 08└─If you study the philosophy of science, you'll get a slightly broader view. For starters (depending on where you draw lines) there are three different kinds of science: a) Analytical sciences, where deductive proofs are actually possible. Mathematics is the poster child here. b) Empirical sciences,...
[06:24:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:2) 02What sort of red meat? - 06Nutrition Data Review Shows Red Meat Has Neutral Effect on Cardiovascular Disease Risk Factors - 869 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:24:23] <exec> 08└─That's the problem with many of these studies, they just group everything under "red meat", without actually differentiating between the species of animal it came from, the animal's diet, how much the animal roamed, domestic or game, and other factors which would greatly affect the nutritional and f...
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[06:25:28] <exec> 08└─Thank you mister literal. Since you lack the ability to understand context, nuance and rhetorical expressions what I meant was that Putin continued Yeltsin's policies and that the oligarchs grew much more powerful under Putin. When he took power in 2000, he made a deal with the oligarchs - they don'...
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[06:26:03] <exec> 08└─There already is a swamp. Donald wants to get everyone that is currently in it, out of the swamp. Unfortunately, it is so he will be the only one remaining...
[06:26:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Re:[Meta] Quick check - 06House GOP Votes To Strip Independence From Congressional Ethics Office - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:26:34] <exec> 08└─Agreed that you'll never make everyone happy. People complain when we don't run a lot of articles in a given day, they complain we ignore political issues, etc.
[06:26:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:"Independent" - 06House GOP Votes To Strip Independence From Congressional Ethics Office - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:26:53] <exec> 08└─> why are you such an authoritarian asshole? You blew every last fucking fuse in the ol' Irony-o-meter with that one, Uzzard. Do you have any idea how expensive those are?
[06:27:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03gringer [962] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh noes teh cloud - 06GM & Ford Introduce New 9-Speed Automatic Transmission - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:27:35] <exec> 08└─Why is it that every time "the cloud" is mentioned, someone's got to post a boilerplate anti-cloud response? The "cloud is always bad" brigade is missing the point just as badly as the "cloud is always good" lobby.
[06:29:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:2) 02Re:Hard work never killed anyone - 06French Workers Win 'Right to Disconnect' - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:29:28] <exec> 08└─I would love to continue this battle of the minds with you Azuma, but I was always taught never to fight an unarmed opponent. Have fun in your "safe space".
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[07:22:50] <exec> 08└─Can I stick my penis in your juicy, tight anus?
[07:22:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Peter Cushing - 06The Future of Leia in the Star Wars Cinematic Universe - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:22:52] <exec> 08└─Live streaming will allow "integrity" to last for another few years, since it's harder to digitally fake in real time.
[07:23:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:1, Flamebait) 02Re:Refute - 06Studies Refute Hypothesis on What Caused Abrupt Climate Change Thousands of Years Ago - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:23:05] <exec> 08└─What is being refuted according to this summary?
[07:23:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Refute - 06Studies Refute Hypothesis on What Caused Abrupt Climate Change Thousands of Years Ago - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:23:06] <exec> 08└─The first paragraph: Two new studies in the Journal of Quaternary Science refute the hypothesis that one or more comets/bolides struck North America approximately 12,900 years ago triggering rapid climate change and the start of the Younger Dryas period.
[07:24:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Settled science - 06Nutrition Data Review Shows Red Meat Has Neutral Effect on Cardiovascular Disease Risk Factors - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:24:28] <exec> 08└─but that doesn't make those fields of study invalid or unimportant.
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[08:22:42] <exec> 08└─It's hard to say; after all, Harrison Ford may very well be returning to Episode VIII, if this casting-call announcement from late 2015 is legitimate.
[08:23:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dryas what? - 06Studies Refute Hypothesis on What Caused Abrupt Climate Change Thousands of Years Ago - 660 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:02] <exec> 08└─The Younger Dryas were a period of abrupt climate change that began 12,900 years ago and lasted for about a thousand years, when the warming temperatures after the last glacial maximum suddenly reversed course. Temperatures in Greenland fell to 15°C below what they are today, retreating glaciers be...
[08:23:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Just think if the NSA was on our side - 06U.S. Military Could Deploy More "Cyber Weapons" Against ISIS - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:21] <exec> 08└─On top of that 90% of the weapons ISIS uses are not subject to cyber attacks. Its hard to attack an AK47 with a computer.
[08:23:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why? - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:48] <exec> 08└─Actually, You might be onto something. If the woman is a screamer, that might also explain why kids can't sleep.
[08:23:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why? - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:51] <exec> 08└─I'me sure during caveman days, they did not have cribs to put kids into.
[08:24:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03tonyPick [1237] (Score:2) 02Re:I suck at going to sleep - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 652 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:03] <exec> 08└─I've had the same problem, although recently I've found podcasts + small mp3 player are incredibly useful - something like The Hidden Almanac [hiddenalmanac.com] is ideal (and hilarious, if you're into that sort of comedy.) I think it's the humour & imagery gives me something distracting & relaxing...
[08:29:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Hard work never killed anyone - 06French Workers Win 'Right to Disconnect' - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:29:42] <exec> 08└─You project like a mile of movie theaters, Bogs. I've seen your post history; forget bringing a knife to a gun fight, you brought a limp noodle. A small one you keep holstered in your pants. Face it, you got called out for the useless, self-congratulatory oxygen thief you are. Go sit in the kiddie c...
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[09:22:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02A Positive Attitude is Important - 06SpaceX to Hopefully Resume Launches This Sunday, January 8, 2017 - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:22:25] <exec> 08└─SpaceX to Hopefully Resume Launches This Sunday, January 8, 2017
[09:23:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just think if the NSA was on our side - 06U.S. Military Could Deploy More "Cyber Weapons" Against ISIS - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:23:24] <exec> 08└─But slick video production is ISIL's greatest weapon!
[09:24:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Re:I suck at going to sleep - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 614 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:24:06] <exec> 08└─You're doing it wrong! Just don't go to bed until you're absolutely, utterly knackered. This leaves you lot's of time to read all of Wikipedia and a healthy dose of the most nonsensical youtube video's (just click anywhere). If you have to get up early, getting only a few hours sleep will help you f...
[09:24:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score:2) 02Re:What sort of red meat? - 06Nutrition Data Review Shows Red Meat Has Neutral Effect on Cardiovascular Disease Risk Factors - 1163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:24:40] <exec> 08└─Kangaroo is damned good, but very pricey unless it is running wild outside your door, which is only true in one country. For the rest of us it'll stay a rare treat. > but the high fat content would pretty much be coronary-inducing if that was the only source of protein for many. There isn't even any...
[09:24:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ayn Anonymous [5012] (Score:2) 02Use your meat computer for god sake - 06Nutrition Data Review Shows Red Meat Has Neutral Effect on Cardiovascular Disease Risk Factors - 1379 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:24:42] <exec> 08└─What do your body need to survive ? - Water............. Basic material for most functions - Protein........... Basic material for complex functions - Fat................. Energy - Vitamins.........Basic material for elementary functions - Minerals..........Basic material for elementary functions...
[09:31:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Replace SJWs with... - 06Washington Post Publishes False Story About Hacking USA Electric Grid - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:31:54] <exec> 08└─F***ubg RACISt!!!!
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[10:22:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Sure... - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:22:22] <exec> 08└─Why not...
[10:22:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03garrulus [6051] (Score:1) 02Devs - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:22:24] <exec> 08└─The writers should be personally legally responsible for the outcome
[10:22:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Devs - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:22:26] <exec> 08└─In other words, make it financially impossible for anyone other than a huge corporation to construct and implement an algorithm? That's arguably worse than letting the government trying to do the job in its typical, grossly incompetent, grossly corrupt and tremendously politicized way.
[10:22:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02easy answer - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 536 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:22:28] <exec> 08└─You don't make thought or algorithm a crime. Action is crime. When the car hits and kills someone, that's manslaughter, and the chain of responsibility stops at some point - the car's buyer for not intervening, the algo writer for failing, the carmaker for not having safe parameters for distance and...
[10:22:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02No, regulations create the algorithm - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 595 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:22:30] <exec> 08└─The algorithms should be the result of regulation in the first place, not the other way around. They should not be regulated on their own, it's their use that should be regulated. In case of autonomous cars, there is already a lot of regulation in place, even tests to see if you are fit to drive. Ea...
[10:22:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02too strong - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:22:33] <exec> 08└─Step 1: Regulate algorithms. Step 2: Kill anybody who tries to make strong AI.
[10:22:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Normal AI BS - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:22:35] <exec> 08└─It's safe to ignore any article on AI where the authors are talking about cars deciding if they should run over one group of people vs another. We're no where near that level of AI yet and that whole argument is bullshit anyway. The car will slam on the breaks. Nothing more and nothing less.
[10:22:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score:2) 02Let me explain ... - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 1063 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:22:37] <exec> 08└─The world is bigger than the USA. There are over 100 countries in it, each with at least one government. Some of these governments may have perfectly sane methods of deciding on policy. Others have methods that are widely agreed to be terminally insane. What good governments do, bad governments are...
[10:22:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A Positive Attitude is Important - 06SpaceX to Hopefully Resume Launches This Sunday, January 8, 2017 - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:22:46] <exec> 08└─Elong Musky is the bestest and I'm totally positive his massive cock is suckable. Is your mouth big enough for the Musky cock?
[10:22:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A Positive Attitude is Important - 06SpaceX to Hopefully Resume Launches This Sunday, January 8, 2017 - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:22:48] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, no. It's only big enough for your micropenis.
[10:22:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03gringer [962] (Score:2) 02Ice House? - 06NASA Might Build an Ice House on Mars - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:22:57] <exec> 08└─So, just an expensive igloo then?
[10:23:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Nobody is asking the important question - 06The Future of Leia in the Star Wars Cinematic Universe - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:23:21] <exec> 08└─So I checked where on the map she belonged. Star Wars Jewess Carrie Fisher Got Fat And Is Now Dead [infostormer.com]. Not one of us. Overrated actress, but the (((media))) loved her.
[10:23:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dryas what? - 06Studies Refute Hypothesis on What Caused Abrupt Climate Change Thousands of Years Ago - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:23:32] <exec> 08└─Dryas a funeral drum.
[10:24:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Not enough meat: No real conclusion - 06Nutrition Data Review Shows Red Meat Has Neutral Effect on Cardiovascular Disease Risk Factors - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:24:55] <exec> 08└─I can't think of a meat-eater who eats any where near that little. It's not a proper meat dish unless it's got ~3 of those-sized servings, IMHO.
[10:25:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What sort of red meat? - 06Nutrition Data Review Shows Red Meat Has Neutral Effect on Cardiovascular Disease Risk Factors - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:25:10] <exec> 08└─There is absolutely nothing wrong with eating fat. In fact, it's absolutely essential.
[10:31:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:No company does it if... - 06Foxconn Plans to Replace Nearly All Human Workers With Robots in Some Factories - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:31:22] <exec> 08└─I made no mention of income at all. Your argument is now nothing like my argument, and nothing like your previous argument either. You're clearly floundering. Have you ever heard the saying that if you're stuck in a hole you should stop digging? I'd remind you of that again, but I'm not sure you can...
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[11:22:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score:2) 02Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:22:26] <exec> 08└─At a small scale I could see it being successful. However, at full scale I don't see how it could possibly work. Could someone explain why a UBI (universal basic income) wouldn't simply drive up the cost of living by pretty much exactly the UBI amount?
[11:22:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:22:27] <exec> 08└─Lol, that's like saying torrents drive up the cost of movie tickets. But dude, if I torrent everything and never buy a movie ticket, why should I care about the price of movie tickets. Fuck you, I got mine, smart guy.
[11:22:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:No, regulations create the algorithm - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:22:40] <exec> 08└─In case of an accident, the algorithm is judged by the same rules as normal persons.
[11:22:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Normal AI BS - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:22:43] <exec> 08└─So lets wait until we are there, cars are finally advanced enough, and cry then why we didn't think about it earlier?
[11:22:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Given civil forteiture laws in the US... - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:22:46] <exec> 08└─No reason to do ANYTHING special for algorithms, if a car gets in an accident the police get to charge it with a crime and confiscate it, just like they can do with any other possession. Buggy software just means more cars lining LEO's pockets. Self solving problem! :)
[11:22:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Regulating algorithms - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:22:48] <exec> 08└─Wait - isn't this "thought crime" for computers? Have we really come this far?
[11:22:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Regulating algorithms - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:22:50] <exec> 08└─isn't this "thought crime" for computers?
[11:23:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Icehouse lager - 06NASA Might Build an Ice House on Mars - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:23:07] <exec> 08└─I ain't the original AC. But how on EARTH is that moderated as 'troll'? Does SN not have humor anymore?
[11:24:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cocaine - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:24:18] <exec> 08└─I'm pretty sure that was a typo. The syrup contained "codeine" not "cocaine".
[11:24:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I suck at going to sleep - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:24:42] <exec> 08└─Similar. My "norm" is to lie awake for half an hour or more. My mind stays busy, just won't turn off.
[11:27:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:"Independent" - 06House GOP Votes To Strip Independence From Congressional Ethics Office - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:27:56] <exec> 08└─Which is a bloody stupid quote because of the absolute truth that liberty and authoritarianism cannot exist together as they are each other's antithesis. Show me once where I have argued for the curtailing of liberty in the name of liberty or the constitution. Once will do fine. I'll wait.
[11:29:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score:2) 02Re:CVT transmissions... - 06GM & Ford Introduce New 9-Speed Automatic Transmission - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:29:06] <exec> 08└─Something I too didn't know, but really are we surprised anymore, Leonardo da Vinci conceptualized a CVT back in 1490. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
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[12:22:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:22:27] <exec> 08└─Torrenting more will solve poverty!
[12:22:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:22:29] <exec> 08└─Torrenting lowers my cost of living. Now if only I could steal food and lodging in a way that evades prosecution, life would be great. I'm thinking shantytown, but the authorities keep bulldozing the shantytowns and driving out the undesirables. Why won't the judgmental taxpayers let us live in peac...
[12:22:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 2270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:22:31] <exec> 08└─It would likely have a lot more subtle effects than simply driving up the cost of everything. It won't push up the cost of production much for anything where labour is not a significant part of the cost. For many things, the retail cost is limited by the cost of production because there are multiple...
[12:22:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:22:33] <exec> 08└─No one grows up wanting to be a toilet cleaner, but (until we have much better robots) someone needs to do the job. Without something like UBI, you can pay these jobs minimum wage and you'll have people willing to do them because they have no other choice.
[12:22:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 582 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:22:35] <exec> 08└─I suspect that the problems are likely to be social. We already have a section of the population that regards society in general, and the government in particular, with a large sense of entitlement: society exists to provide for their needs, they don't expect to contribute anything. UBI is likely to...
[12:22:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:22:37] <exec> 08└─Could someone explain why a UBI (universal basic income) wouldn't simply drive up the cost of living by pretty much exactly the UBI amount?
[12:22:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:22:40] <exec> 08└─Let's tax Fuckerberg at 99% and pay people to post shit to Facefuck.
[12:22:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03dublet [2994] (Score:2) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 1488 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:22:42] <exec> 08└─It doesn't mean market forces won't work, it will just give everyone a minimal floor. It removes some pressures so that people who cannot afford to live otherwise, won't have to leave somewhere they don't want to to work a job they don't want to. It means people could move to somewhere outside urban...
[12:22:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:22:44] <exec> 08└─Could someone explain why a UBI (universal basic income) wouldn't simply drive up the cost of living by pretty much exactly the UBI amount?
[12:22:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormreaver [5101] (Score:2) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:22:46] <exec> 08└─The amount will be deducted from any benefits they already receive.
[12:22:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03r1348 [5988] (Score:2) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:22:48] <exec> 08└─Do you really think that people earning 560€/mo in Finland (not your cheapest country) would suddenly go on a spending spree? Because inflation is not driven by income, but by spending. Subsistence spending would hardly be a blip on the radar.
[12:22:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Average income in Finland is 2400 € - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:22:50] <exec> 08└─in 2015 according to official figures http://tilastokeskus.fi [tilastokeskus.fi]
[12:23:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:easy answer - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:23:01] <exec> 08└─I'd go even further. There's no problem that can be solved by regulating algorithms. Notice the very first paragraph: Accidents involving driverless cars, calculating the probability of recidivism among criminals, and influencing elections by means of news filters—algorithms are involved everywher...
[12:25:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score:2) 02Re:I suck at going to sleep - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 472 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:25:07] <exec> 08└─Try coffee... no really. It is a well known trick whem everything else fails - drink a cup of warm coffee and go straight to bed (do not linger about - nor nurse the coffe, it is a matter of hitting one of the initial phases of the effect). (Just try it one night when you've given up on sleep anyway...
[12:32:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:No company does it if... - 06Foxconn Plans to Replace Nearly All Human Workers With Robots in Some Factories - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:32:02] <exec> 08└─This is obviously untrue
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[13:22:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Awesome! - 06Matrix End-to-End Encrypted Messenging in Beta - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:26] <exec> 08└─I can't wait for all of my friends and family to not use it! (Seriously though. The world needs more stuff like this, but the issue here is a social one, not a technological one.)
[13:22:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03TheRaven [270] 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 2270 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:22:38] <exec> 08└─It would likely have a lot more subtle effects than simply driving up the cost of everything. It won't push up the cost of production much for anything where labour is not a significant part of the cost. For many things, the retail cost is limited by the cost of production because there are multiple...
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[13:22:40] <exec> 08└─Aside from the invective, you've made my point. Would you want to do a janitorial job for minimum wage if your other option was doing nothing and receive enough income to live on? Demand for janitorial jobs would drop a lot if you didn't need a job to survive.
[13:22:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 892 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:22:43] <exec> 08└─To me, this is why you chain it to GDP. Something like "we will spend X% of GDP to subsidize the population, paid in the out year". Your country has a good year? Everyone benefits! Everyone goes to the park and doesn't build anything? All suffer! You want an amount enough for people to live at pover...
[13:22:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Tax to pay for it - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:22:48] <exec> 08└─I propose a flat 90% tax rate for all gainfully employed in order to fund this amazing, "free money" experiment. Comrades, are you with me?
[13:23:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Devs - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:23:04] <exec> 08└─No, Dev and managers are personally responsible even in LARGE corp. I have had Surety Bonds on my work. I even left one company, when a manager wanted to do something stupid and I refused to both protect me and my bond. I will believe a corporation is person, once Texas puts one to death.
[13:23:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:easy answer - yes - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:23:07] <exec> 08└─It is being done TODAY! FDA has software program/standards that monitor, audit and regulate software from Pace-Makers and Insulin-Pumps to their support devices / code. It follows NASA software group standards used both in Shuttle but even in earlier Apollo 4bit software. For one thing EVERY branch...
[13:23:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:too strong - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:23:12] <exec> 08└─Step 3: GOTO 2
[13:23:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What now? - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 322 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:20] <exec> 08└─First code reviews. Then code analysis tools like lint, sonar, codenarc. Then test coverage analyzer like Emma, cobertura d, etc. Then pair programming. Now government regulation of the creative process of writing software!?!!!! Please let me get back to programming mother f***er http://tinyurl.com...
[13:23:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Join the ACM - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:23] <exec> 08└─Not sure if it counts as regulation, but on the upside it does not involve a government body. The ACM has been publishing reference form of algorithms for decades. http://netlib.org [netlib.org] Seems as though a learned body as that would be the quintessential gatekeeper.
[13:23:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'll finally get to use my line - 06The Future of Leia in the Star Wars Cinematic Universe - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:23:58] <exec> 08└─Because "impaled" sounds like "nailed", it doesn't mean they mean the same thing.
[13:24:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nobody is asking the important question - 06The Future of Leia in the Star Wars Cinematic Universe - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:24:07] <exec> 08└─One scene in a bikini made her entire career. Not a bad tradeoff.
[13:25:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Trauma - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:25:27] <exec> 08└─My parents having the endof my dick cut off has caused no end of problems for me.
[13:25:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Settled science - 06Nutrition Data Review Shows Red Meat Has Neutral Effect on Cardiovascular Disease Risk Factors - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:25:58] <exec> 08└─You mean things like buildings that are designed to take advantage of the greenhouse effect? /jmorris trolling
[13:26:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:What sort of red meat? - 06Nutrition Data Review Shows Red Meat Has Neutral Effect on Cardiovascular Disease Risk Factors - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:26:02] <exec> 08└─Personally, at least 50% of the red meat I consume is wild kangaroo.
[13:26:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's all so stupid - 06President Gorbachev’s Last Phone Call - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:26:52] <exec> 08└─Thanks!
[13:26:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's all so stupid - 06President Gorbachev’s Last Phone Call - 557 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:26:56] <exec> 08└─Ah, ok, I'll just rob you at gunpoint then since violence will be democratized. There won't be anybody to stop me if I've convinced the whole village that there's just something wrong with you. I mean, I guess you could take it up with my preferred contract enforcer who oddly enough always thinks I'...
[13:27:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Sad - 06Facebook Buys Data on Users' Offline Habits for Better Ads - 1574 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:27:24] <exec> 08└─I'm curious how they account for things like apps checking to see if there's anything to notify. There are also the "likes for sale" spam accounts. Technically those are daily uses, if your salary depends on large numbers of daily uses, yet are simultaneously not people logging in. I googled around...
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[14:22:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03ptman [5676] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:Awesome! - 06Matrix End-to-End Encrypted Messenging in Beta - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:22:31] <exec> 08└─I understand that you are joking, but one of the nice things with matrix is the native support for bridges. So your matrix home server can connect you to several other IM services / networks and you can chat with everyone by just using a matrix client. The IRC bridge is naturally (?) one of the most...
[14:22:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Awesome! - 06Matrix End-to-End Encrypted Messenging in Beta - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:22:33] <exec> 08└─Reminds me of XMPP. :(
[14:22:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 2427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:22:48] <exec> 08└─Thats where you run into strange definition games and the experiment can be pushed to various local definitions of success or failure. For example, "many theoretical models" assume the janitor would continue to get the basic income regardless of other income sources, much as the police don't stop pa...
[14:22:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:22:51] <exec> 08└─The F.S.A. is used primarily to describe "the 47%" of US citizens who not only pay nothing in federal taxes, but actually believe that they are entitled to the fruits of the labors of others.
[14:22:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:22:56] <exec> 08└─Would fairer than the current 0.005% taxes that these deep pocket corporations actually pay.
[14:22:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 1349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:23:00] <exec> 08└─Aside from poor people you just gave every small business startup the equivalent of their first $500/month or $1000/month or whatever it works out to in revenue. Double that for two founders or more than double for a family business. Getting past those early small orders of magnitude are a lot harde...
[14:23:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:23:02] <exec> 08└─It's been known for some time that giving the poorest people money (though benefits or tax rebates, whatever) stimulates the economy more than giving it to the rich by virtue of poor people being more likely to put it back into the economy, rather than simply accumulating wealth. So this could be a...
[14:23:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 1401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:23:07] <exec> 08└─Also, freedom. Big brother says I can't have more than two roommates while getting housing assistance and I can't afford community college with my existing one roommate, but if big brother would F off I could have a little frat house here and get my degree in the profitable field of underwater baske...
[14:23:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 530 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:23:10] <exec> 08└─The advantage should be in administrative savings. Since they've decided "We're giving these people this amount of money per month no matter what they do with it", they don't have to assign a bureaucrat to check in and make sure that it's being spent on food and housing rather than vodka and weed. H...
[14:23:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:23:12] <exec> 08└─While the State won't pay anymore than it already does, the recipients won't be any better off than they are now
[14:23:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:23:15] <exec> 08└─drive up the cost of living
[14:23:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Average income in Finland is 2400 € - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:23:18] <exec> 08└─Before or after taxes? Because I doubt UBI is going to be taxed like income.
[14:23:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Trial too short - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:23:20] <exec> 08└─the two-year trial
[14:23:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Regulating algorithms - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:23:45] <exec> 08└─A man can kill another man - with intent, in very special circumstances. As a soldier in a war. In self defense. As a state appointed executioner. The act of killing with intent is not necessarily against the law even if the law is pretty clear that murder is a no-no. Intent is not sufficient.
[14:23:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Two camps.. but common ground is interesting! - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 395 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:23:48] <exec> 08└─Seems like both authors agree that any potentially liable source code for should be housed in a neutral third party's (potentially private) source code repository so it can be reviewed by the courts if need be. Of course, one must also be able to prove that the source code in the repository is the o...
[14:27:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Hope Not - 06President Gorbachev’s Last Phone Call - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:27:37] <exec> 08└─Since you lack the ability to understand context, nuance and rhetorical expressions what I meant was that Putin continued Yeltsin's policies and that the oligarchs grew much more powerful under Putin.
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[15:22:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Subliminal programming oceans? - 06UCLA Mathematicians Bring Ocean to Life for Disney's ‘Moana’ - 352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:22:28] <exec> 08└─This will help them include more subliminal messages like they've always done. DISNEY FROZEN ILLUMINATI SEXUAL SUBLIMINAL PERVERTED PROGRAMMING [youtube.com]. Sexually explicit filth shown in stunning detail. Straight from ((( Disney ))) while young children get programmed by it. Family films, right...
[15:22:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 967 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:22:55] <exec> 08└─It isn't the liberal darkies who are to blame. It's the rich authoritarian white bastards who cater to those liberal darkies who are to blame. Dirt poor darkies in the ghetto don't decide how much money to spend on welfare. The authoritarians make those decisions. Each and every decision is designed...
[15:22:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 436 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:22:58] <exec> 08└─I suspect that the problems are likely to be social. We already have a section of the population that regards society in general, and the government in particular, with a large sense of entitlement: society exists to provide for their needs, they don't expect to contribute anything. UBI is likely to...
[15:23:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:23:03] <exec> 08└─Because if you had said to be taxed at 99.995% then that would be close to be as abusive as the actual taxes they are paying.
[15:23:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Tax to pay for it - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 547 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:23:06] <exec> 08└─(I'm not very successful, so my income tax bracket is not very high like your joking comment, but it is painful that I have to pay full "employer-part of social premium" for my (bumbling) employee, me) Love that sentence. Salutes! I spent a few years self-employed. My employee worked his arse off, b...
[15:23:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:2) 02re QE - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 574 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:23:18] <exec> 08└─Why is so popular the perverse notion that giving money or a break to the people is bad for the economy but giving money to banks is perfectly good? Quoting ‘The Economist’ on Quantitative Easing [economist.com]: To carry out QE central banks create money [...] The new money swells the size of...
[15:23:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03DmT [6439] (Score:1) 02Estonians work in Finland - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 923 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:23:22] <exec> 08└─Next to Finland there is a country called Estonia. A lot of people travel from Estonia (sometimes giving up higher skilled work) to go and do simple work, that the people of Finland are not willing to do. Just because it pays more. Minimum wage in Estonia is 430 euros (= janitor gets net 370€), av...
[15:23:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Devs - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 412 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:23:35] <exec> 08└─The Insurance companies are responsible. Liability will determine what choices will be made. If they can find a convenient legal scapegoat, they will do so as a way to dodge corporate liability for shoddy code. I don't know what the correct answer to any of this is but, "Sacrifice a code monkey in I...
[15:23:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score:2) 02Re:easy answer - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 551 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:23:39] <exec> 08└─> I'd go even further. There's no problem that can be solved by regulating algorithms. Notice the very first paragraph: Not only that, there are many problems that would be created by attempting to regulate algorithms outside the context of use. Should glass be regulated to be clear, untinted and la...
[15:23:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No, regulations create the algorithm - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:23:43] <exec> 08└─The answer of "who pays" for autonomous car faults is very simple. The owner of the vehicle pays for all damages incurred from use of the vehicle. Like today, vehicle owners will have liability insurance to cover such damages.
[15:23:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03driven [6295] (Score:2) 02Re:What now? - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 414 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:23:54] <exec> 08└─Code reviews would have only limited impact, given that most of the "brains" of machine learning are stored in the neural network nodes that only contain data. I think training at a level higher than the algorithm is more appropriate - rigorous testing in all sorts of driving conditions: pedestrians...
[15:24:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Use something presumably abundant on Mars? - 06NASA Might Build an Ice House on Mars - 1272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:16] <exec> 08└─If you want to use something abundant on Mars, why not fill the inflatable shell with sand, and THEN add water to it. That would take a lot less water, which I suspect is much less abundant than sand. One could use many inflatable bricks. Each brick is a plastic bag filled with sand, zipped front, r...
[15:24:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03blackhawk [5275] (Score:2) 02Re:The only think holding it back now... - 06The Future of Leia in the Star Wars Cinematic Universe - 855 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:24:39] <exec> 08└─That shouldn't really be an issue since it's not too difficult to match up the lighting used on the green screen set with that in a computer rendering. It might be harder on an actual set where reflections start to play a part in the scene. Problem is really the uncanny valley. The Peter Cushing mod...
[15:24:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:Peter Cushing - 06The Future of Leia in the Star Wars Cinematic Universe - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:24:43] <exec> 08└─Star journalists will be bloggers, and just like rockstar coders, they will be completely full of bullshit.
[15:25:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Refute - 06Studies Refute Hypothesis on What Caused Abrupt Climate Change Thousands of Years Ago - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:25:03] <exec> 08└─They have shown that such an impact likely did not cause the Younger Dryas.
[15:25:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Better Idea - 06U.S. Military Could Deploy More "Cyber Weapons" Against ISIS - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:19] <exec> 08└─Just kill them all and let Allah sort them out. Faster, better, cheaper.
[15:26:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:I suck at going to sleep - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:26:00] <exec> 08└─I still haven't decided whether there are half a dozen of you who spend their time making personal attacks on me, or if it's just one person. Do I have one big fan, or a score of little fans? One thing for sure - none of you can have a real life, if the best use of your time is to follow me around t...
[15:26:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I suck at going to sleep - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 917 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:26:08] <exec> 08└─I've tried and failed at polyphasic sleep a few times (mostly uberman, but also everyman and dymaxion), and had the following effects from the experience: I discovered I was actually prone to dreaming that I was lying awake. I learned how to fall asleep much more quickly and easily, and even to nap....
[15:26:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Identify the problem - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 2185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:26:16] <exec> 08└─Identify the problem. The problem is the kid can't fall asleep so the parent(s) (well, lets be realistic here, the wife) gets no sleep can't function in society can't go to work or safely drive or whatever. That's the real problem. Its the same as infant bottle feeding at 2am problem but slightly ol...
[15:26:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Food Pyramid - 06Nutrition Data Review Shows Red Meat Has Neutral Effect on Cardiovascular Disease Risk Factors - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:26:30] <exec> 08└─Don't forget the lunch ladies cafeteria with menus completely free of fats and protein. Just a steaming plate of pure carbs.
[15:26:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Really - 06Nutrition Data Review Shows Red Meat Has Neutral Effect on Cardiovascular Disease Risk Factors - 1327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:26:39] <exec> 08└─A couple ounces is probably about right for a stir fry. I was sitting around thinking and my hard anodized wok is still holding up and some quick math estimates I've cooked at least a thousand meals out of that thing in the last decade. My wife made a chicken one with excessive amounts of carrots an...
[15:27:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's all so stupid - 06President Gorbachev’s Last Phone Call - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:27:45] <exec> 08└─You are still making remarks about centralized, blessed, ordained monopolies on violence.........
[15:28:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hope Not - 06President Gorbachev’s Last Phone Call - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:28:03] <exec> 08└─lol you are such a fucktard
[15:29:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:[Meta] Quick check - 06House GOP Votes To Strip Independence From Congressional Ethics Office - 945 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:29:11] <exec> 08└─> it's not a slow news day. There were 17 items in the queue when this was posted. There were far less when the story was put into the posting queue. In fact most of the entries in the submission queue at that point were bottom of the barrel stories that were basically days old rejects just waiting...
[15:29:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Independent" - 06House GOP Votes To Strip Independence From Congressional Ethics Office - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:29:31] <exec> 08└─What you argue for on a regular basis is perpetuating an inegaliatarian status quo for no other reason than it is the status quo.
[15:30:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:open source? - 06GM & Ford Introduce New 9-Speed Automatic Transmission - 358 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:30:47] <exec> 08└─when are people going to wake up and demand open source cars? Probably some time after they wake up and demand open-source operating systems for their computers and phones. Which is to say, never, except for a few geeks on sites like this. Sure, it makes perfect sense, but good luck getting the gene...
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[16:22:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02It depends entirely - 06The Moving Sofa Problem - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:22:30] <exec> 08└─If a time traveler is there to open the door. [wikipedia.org]
[16:22:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:3, Informative) 02Where? - 06The Moving Sofa Problem - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:22:32] <exec> 08└─Here is the resulting shape
[16:22:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Where? - 06The Moving Sofa Problem - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:22:34] <exec> 08└─Actually, it's this one [ucdavis.edu]. Those little chamfers on Gerver's version of Hammersley's basic shape enable a slightly longer "sofa" with more area, albeit only by around 1%.
[16:22:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Where? - 06The Moving Sofa Problem - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:22:36] <exec> 08└─No, it (the one referred to in the summary as being "here") is the one I linked to. The summary doesn't get as far as mentioning the refinement. 20 pedant points to me!
[16:22:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score:2) 02Re:Where? - 06The Moving Sofa Problem - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:22:38] <exec> 08└─It makes way more sense when you show it in action. https://upload.wikimedia.org [wikimedia.org]
[16:22:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Numerical optimization? - 06The Moving Sofa Problem - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:22:40] <exec> 08└─This sounds like a problem for numerical optimization. I'll bet donuts to dollars that Boeing engineers who optimize wing shapes could find something better.
[16:22:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02motorized sofa - 06The Moving Sofa Problem - 474 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:22:43] <exec> 08└─A bit of google searching shows motorized sofas peaked in interest about a decade ago and even reports of reports of reports was dying down by 2010. Possibly solving this problem would help popularity, at least help them park and maneuver in close quarters. They never really took off, despite being...
[16:22:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Subliminal programming oceans? - 06UCLA Mathematicians Bring Ocean to Life for Disney's ‘Moana’ - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:22:52] <exec> 08└─Why do you haet pizza?
[16:22:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not to pile on, but.. - 06UCLA Mathematicians Bring Ocean to Life for Disney's ‘Moana’ - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:22:54] <exec> 08└─Disney really does have a girl first agenda. Just about all their TV series have girls (always Hispanic girls) as the lead character. Males are sidekicks or if it is the rare show with a male lead, he is a goofball. Disney movies are the same. For the most egregious example, see "Frozen". You may ac...
[16:22:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Maybe useful - 06UCLA Mathematicians Bring Ocean to Life for Disney's ‘Moana’ - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:22:56] <exec> 08└─If the physics and mathematics are not simulated accurately, it will be very glaring that something is wrong with the animation of the material.
[16:22:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Maybe useful - 06UCLA Mathematicians Bring Ocean to Life for Disney's ‘Moana’ - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:22:58] <exec> 08└─I don't recall stories being generally better before computer animation. The crap back then was just hand drawn--usually crudely. "Limited animation" and a whole lot of talking made for cheap cartoons. I think you are comparing the best of the past with everything (good and bad) from today.
[16:23:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Effective for less then 2000 - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:23:51] <exec> 08└─... two-year trial with the 2,000 randomly picked citizens who receive unemployment benefits ... The amount will be deducted from any benefits they already receive.
[16:24:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03cccc828 [2368] (Score:1) 02Re:Normal AI BS - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 1491 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:24:15] <exec> 08└─You do not need any specific level of AI to end up in that situation. Whenever an autonomous system (car, drone, washing machine, recommender system...) does something "wrong" you need to answer the 'why'. Cars are an often used example, because everyone know them and the potential harm is graphic e...
[16:24:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Normal AI BS - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 1248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:24:16] <exec> 08└─And here is the best way to deal with the problem. Humans, studied in large groups, are well characterized and risk models can be built to insure them. As things like cars cross the line from tool to actor they will need liability insurance in their own right vs. the current model where the vehicle...
[16:24:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Join the ACM - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 589 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:24:27] <exec> 08└─Government will adopt (read: anoint) the long-standing and widely recognized work of one of these "private" organizations (and will require a person to purchase a "private" copy of this work, because ignorance of the "law" is no excuse...), and then years later everyone will be telling libertarians...
[16:24:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Wrong question - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 946 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:24:30] <exec> 08└─Rather than ask "Should we regulate algorithms?" as a starting point, I'd recommend starting for "What feasibly could be regulated about algorithms?" and determine if those are good or bad ideas. "Should we regulate algorithms" is a maddeningly vague question, and doesn't have a single answer. A cod...
[16:24:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02An answer that would work - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 921 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:24:32] <exec> 08└─In one word: Insurance. The reason is that we're talking about managing a risk. Take, for instance, self-driving cars: A car with better driving software is safer than a car with worse driving software, and the insurance premiums will reflect that. The insurance companies, loathe to pay claims, will...
[16:25:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Peter Cushing - 06The Future of Leia in the Star Wars Cinematic Universe - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:25:17] <exec> 08└─disturbing, uncanny valley
[16:25:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Peter Cushing - 06The Future of Leia in the Star Wars Cinematic Universe - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:25:19] <exec> 08└─I don’t see how resurrecting her for Episode VIII and IX is so impossible.
[16:25:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03DmT [6439] (Score:1) 02i see dead ppl on FB - 06The Future of Leia in the Star Wars Cinematic Universe - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:23] <exec> 08└─Soon dead relatives will say their final goodbye. To you. After death. On facebook. Rendered by Disney. For a moderate fee.
[16:25:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:i see dead ppl on FB - 06The Future of Leia in the Star Wars Cinematic Universe - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:25:25] <exec> 08└─Well at least they aren't saying goodbye in your rotten asshole with their fetid cocks.
[16:25:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dryas what? - 06Studies Refute Hypothesis on What Caused Abrupt Climate Change Thousands of Years Ago - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:25:36] <exec> 08└─Modded Redundant because thats the closest word to Retarded in the mod system.
[16:25:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03nobu_the_bard [6373] (Score:2) 02social engineering - 06U.S. Military Could Deploy More "Cyber Weapons" Against ISIS - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:26:00] <exec> 08└─We really need better social policies and education to combat them. They are vermin that no amount of attacking, with any kind of weapon, will ever kill completely. You need to destroy the environment of ignorance and intolerance they thrive in.
[16:26:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:2) 02Re:My solution - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:26:54] <exec> 08└─+1 Creepy?
[16:26:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Let's play a game for the whole family... - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:26:57] <exec> 08└─"Does this rag smell like chloroform?"
[16:26:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:2) 02Doubt It - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 358 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:26:59] <exec> 08└─I seriously doubt that parents around here have trouble stepping away from their kids. If anything, we should be encouraged to be in closer contact with the little "parasites" (as I expect most Soylentils to characterize infants). After all, so far I've seen comments suggesting ear plugs, gin, cocai...
[16:27:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02Re:Food Pyramid - 06Nutrition Data Review Shows Red Meat Has Neutral Effect on Cardiovascular Disease Risk Factors - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:27:11] <exec> 08└─Real fruit juice (not sugary "cocktails") isn't unhealthy though... For sugars are much healthier than refined/synthesized sugars.
[16:27:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Settled science - 06Nutrition Data Review Shows Red Meat Has Neutral Effect on Cardiovascular Disease Risk Factors - 1050 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:27:33] <exec> 08└─I don't disagree in general but its fascinating how food science WRT agribusiness counting beans (literally) when raising mammal livestock is genuinely scientific, vs food science for humans where its all propaganda bullshit based almost entirely on payment and politics. Its funny when you research...
[16:30:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:"Independent" - 06House GOP Votes To Strip Independence From Congressional Ethics Office - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:30:17] <exec> 08└─No, what I argue for is equality of treatment rather than equality of results. The former is actual equality while the latter is just bigotry rebranded.
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[17:22:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02not seen the symmetrical version of the problem - 06The Moving Sofa Problem - 1332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:22:56] <exec> 08└─I wonder what other variations are possible. One that springs to mind is a "train", where the "carriages" are connected at fixed points by an inextensible string of a certain length (which thus makes the solution not a value, but a function of length). One also has the issue of whether the train des...
[17:22:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02is max width optimal? - 06The Moving Sofa Problem - 906 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:22:57] <exec> 08└─It's a nice little problem. I observed that all the shapes filled the width of the hallway. If the width is reduced a little, the length could be increased. Could some sofa less than full width actually have a greater area? I suppose it was one of the first things they tried. Would be insightful to...
[17:22:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:is max width optimal? - 06The Moving Sofa Problem - 559 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:22:59] <exec> 08└─This is why mathematicians are theorists and are no help to engineering problems. If they took the plane of the sofa and rotated it 90° to the plane of the hallway, they could have an infinite surface area of the sofa so long as the length of the sofa parallel to the plane of the hallway isn't too...
[17:23:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Question regarding equation - 06The Moving Sofa Problem - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:23:02] <exec> 08└─I wonder if the solutions to this include a term for cans of spackle. Does the number of cans for drywall repair vary in a linear or superlinear relation with sofa area?
[17:23:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Subliminal programming oceans? - 06UCLA Mathematicians Bring Ocean to Life for Disney's ‘Moana’ - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:23:12] <exec> 08└─I was wondering why they didn't call her Screama instead of Moana, lol.
[17:23:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:Not to pile on, but.. - 06UCLA Mathematicians Bring Ocean to Life for Disney's ‘Moana’ - 1110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:23:15] <exec> 08└─The impression I get is that Disney has now divided itself in to the "Frozen Corporation" to cater for girls, and the "Marvel & Star Wars" corporation to appeal to the boys. All their other properties, characters & franchises seem to have been almost completely forgotten. I'm almost surprised to see...
[17:23:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe useful - 06UCLA Mathematicians Bring Ocean to Life for Disney's ‘Moana’ - 1070 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:23:19] <exec> 08└─Which is my point about comparing Star Wars to the new Star Wars Bigger Splosions: when Luke finds his Aunt and Uncle dead and his farm a smoking ruin, there is a build up of music, a close up of Luke, the emotions building within him: all leading up to his decision to wreak havoc against the Empire...
[17:23:49] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 436 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:23:49] <exec> 08└─I suspect that the problems are likely to be social. We already have a section of the population that regards society in general, and the government in particular, with a large sense of entitlement: society exists to provide for their needs, they don't expect to contribute anything. UBI is likely to...
[17:23:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 1037 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:23:59] <exec> 08└─>why is economic stimulus supposed to be better than wealth accumulation? Economic stimulus increases the flow of money, increasing wealth for many people - If I get an an extra dollar, which I spend on a haircut, the barber also gets an extra dollar of income, which he can spend on a meal, so that...
[17:24:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:re QE - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:24:11] <exec> 08└─You are forgetting that the regular, non elected non government people, who would be against UBI were also very likely against giving the banks a metric shit ton of money. What is interesting is that the regular, see the previous qualifier, people who are for UBI are likely against giving banks a me...
[17:24:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Why this will fail, and badly - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 2683 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:24:17] <exec> 08└─It is easy to see the short term attraction. The government is already handing out a gob of benefits through a maze of programs that have high overhead, impose rules that encourage long term dependency, etc. But this is just doubling down on a bad idea. The bad idea is redistribution of wealth and a...
[17:24:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Not granular enough, solves the wrong problems - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 2009 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:24:19] <exec> 08└─Let's be real here: just giving people money without even so much as a "don't spend it all in one place" is not a solution. Instead, let's break this down into what the most pressing concerns are for people who would benefit from this: housing and food. It would make a hell of a lot more sense to al...
[17:24:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:No, regulations create the algorithm - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:24:39] <exec> 08└─No. If a defective part of the car causes the accident, the manufacturer might very well be liable instead of the car-owner. Same should hold true with defective algorithms. But in this case, we need rules to determine if an algorithm is defective or now.
[17:24:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Regulating algorithms - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 409 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:24:52] <exec> 08└─True. I was just arguing against the analogy algorithm-regulation vs. thought-crime punishment. I think everyone agrees the algorithm shouldn't kill people unmotivated, but where it becomes quirky is when the algorithm needs to determine whom to kill / how to assess risks etc. In this case, with an...
[17:26:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Refute - 06Studies Refute Hypothesis on What Caused Abrupt Climate Change Thousands of Years Ago - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:26:12] <exec> 08└─> all we got is two pairs of he-said she-said and no way to judge which is correct Huh? That *IS* what counts for news in the USA.
[17:27:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03mechanicjay [7] (Score:1) 02Re:Why? - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:27:01] <exec> 08└─Boop, modernist fallacy. Just because something is new and different doesn’t mean it's a good thing.
[17:27:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Why? - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:27:03] <exec> 08└─My AI web search found a certain pediatrician doctor Benjamin Spock, who found a surefire method to put the child to rest by a certain vulcanian nerve pinch.
[17:30:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:GOP is unethical - 06House GOP Votes To Strip Independence From Congressional Ethics Office - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:30:20] <exec> 08└─Even more to the point, why did snotnose feel the need to share all that in the first place? The post he was responding to had literally nothing to do with his response. Looks like a case of pure virtue signaling. Except there really isn't any virtue involved. Its more like baboon-ass signaling.
[17:30:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Independent" - 06House GOP Votes To Strip Independence From Congressional Ethics Office - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:30:49] <exec> 08└─Get back to us when you are ready to support a 100% inheritance tax and the raising of children in creches where they all receive equal treatment. Until then you are just another bullshitter picking and choosing which people deserve 'equal' treatment and which deserve special privileges.
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[18:22:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Did We Learn Nothing from the Matrix? - 06The Beating Heart of Solar Energy - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:22:37] <exec> 08└─We don't need solar powered implants. The human body is a giant generator, battery and engine all in one. Figure out how to harvest energy from natural body movements, like via a microturbine in an aorta or the bending of a nanowire attached to a muscle. [mit.edu]
[18:22:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Username [4557] (Score:2) 02Re:Did We Learn Nothing from the Matrix? - 06The Beating Heart of Solar Energy - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:22:39] <exec> 08└─The way I see it is a thermocouple would be more beneficial since it just needs a living human to heat or cool it vs environment. Solar requires people to go outside or near a significant light source. Turbines need moving parts.
[18:22:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Missing the point - 06The Beating Heart of Solar Energy - 585 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:22:41] <exec> 08└─Generating small amounts of electricity isn't hard. But this application of solar suffers from the same problem all applications of solar power do. It is not constant so you must store it. Meaning you still need a battery and a rechargeable battery must be replaced just like a primary cell does. Pac...
[18:22:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:motorized sofa - 06The Moving Sofa Problem - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:22:56] <exec> 08└─Motorized sofas are still cool, but people decided to add a roof in case of rain, an A/C unit, some trunk space for the food and drinks, a windshield for the bugs, and 21" wheels with chrome rims.
[18:23:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:Not to pile on, but.. - 06UCLA Mathematicians Bring Ocean to Life for Disney's ‘Moana’ - 613 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:23:14] <exec> 08└─as per usual, i was the only stick-in-the-mud who didn't lerv frozen... formulaic disney with all the rough edges sanded blandly smooth... one of the major problems i had with it (as with many simplistic, glossed-over disney films), is that there were -ultimately- no consequences for stupid behavior...
[18:23:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Not to pile on, but.. - 06UCLA Mathematicians Bring Ocean to Life for Disney's ‘Moana’ - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:23:16] <exec> 08└─Disney alternates between a boy-movie year and a girl-movie year, because Disney is an equal opportunity money-taking company. Between Frozen and Moana, there was Big Hero 6. It just didn't have the same "princess dresses everywhere" visibility.
[18:23:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:Not to pile on, but.. - 06UCLA Mathematicians Bring Ocean to Life for Disney's ‘Moana’ - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:23:19] <exec> 08└─Also, it wasn't very good. The inflatable robot thing was quite appealing, but the story didn't hang together at all - first it's about a genius kid roboticist and his brother, then [SPOILER] [SPOILER] and he's all [SPOILER] and then suddenly it morphs unexpectedly into a lame superhero team up. WTF...
[18:23:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:2) 02Re:Not to pile on, but.. - 06UCLA Mathematicians Bring Ocean to Life for Disney's ‘Moana’ - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:23:21] <exec> 08└─Ah yes, the [SPOILER] scene. It really made the movie.
[18:23:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03driven [6295] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe useful - 06UCLA Mathematicians Bring Ocean to Life for Disney's ‘Moana’ - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:23:26] <exec> 08└─Funny thing about getting the snow physics perfect is that the scene itself [youtube.com] is totally unbelievable. Wolves can't jump across a chasm, but a reindeer pulling two people on a sled can? And in mid-air the guy can push off the sled to complete his jump? That goes beyond suspended disbelie...
[18:23:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Awesome! - 06Matrix End-to-End Encrypted Messenging in Beta - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:23:37] <exec> 08└─Can you blame your family for not wanting to be on the "these people go through extra effort to hide" database?
[18:23:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Awesome! - 06Matrix End-to-End Encrypted Messenging in Beta - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:23:39] <exec> 08└─I'd respect them more for it if that were actually their justification. The response I get is a much more apathetic one, except for my dad.
[18:24:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03dublet [2994] (Score:2) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:09] <exec> 08└─That sounds like a good thing to me.
[18:24:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:easy answer - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 675 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:47] <exec> 08└─Why do we need regulation in the first place? Not a rhetorical question, a serious one. Because you seem to think there is always a clear cause and a clear effect. See, if you die on road because some chump wrote an algorithm for a guided missile, he will be convicted. But if a scurd missile drops o...
[18:24:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Re:Normal AI BS - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 786 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:59] <exec> 08└─The "Trolley problem" is a load of waffle based on the unrealistic assumption that the subject has omniscient pre-knowledge of the outcome of each possible option. Why do you think so many of these problems involve passive vehicles running on rails? How blatant a symbol of predestination do you want...
[18:25:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Wrong question - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:25:12] <exec> 08└─A code audit to "prove" an algorithm that makes credit decisions doesn't explicitly make decision based on the race of the borrower is "regulation."
[18:25:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Wrong questions lead to wrong answers - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 573 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:16] <exec> 08└─What does "regulating algorithms" even mean? Test for correctness, yes. Make sure they're validated, formally correct in the mathematical sense, yes. But "regulate?" This is an example of why non-technical people (government types, all goddamn lawyers and bankers) shouldn't try to get involved in wh...
[18:25:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Engineering lessons - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 603 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:18] <exec> 08└─Engineering has a certification process, and engineers are held liable of they don't follow certain procedures to reduce or prevent disasters with buildings, bridges, planes, etc. We can (attempt) do the same with software developers and network/system designers, BUT it will make them more expensive...
[18:25:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Should we regulate algorithms? - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 1591 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:20] <exec> 08└─Should any future self-driving cars (and other safety-critical systems) have to undergo statutory testing and meet the appropriate standards, just like plain old non-autonomous cars already do in most civilised countries? Will the existing standards need to be revised to accommodate self-driving car...
[18:25:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:A Positive Attitude is Important - 06SpaceX to Hopefully Resume Launches This Sunday, January 8, 2017 - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:25:32] <exec> 08└─I think the proper term should be to "anxiously resume launches". If that one goes boom, or just imperfect, they're going to be in pain.
[18:26:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02Re:I'll finally get to use my line - 06The Future of Leia in the Star Wars Cinematic Universe - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:26:00] <exec> 08└─Jehovah's Witnesses use the term "impaled" to describe how Jesus of Nazareth was put to death in The Bible. To them it means "affixed to a pole", even if the pole itself doesn't penetrate the victim's body.
[18:26:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Username [4557] (Score:2) 02Good - 06The Future of Leia in the Star Wars Cinematic Universe - 515 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:26:17] <exec> 08└─It is sad that she died, but Star Wars will be better for it. She was a bad actor. I’m surprised she didn’t die during the filming of The Force Awakens. Seeing her bad health in that movie I was expecting a death scene, or maybe her journey to the darkside. I have extremely low expectations for...
[18:26:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good - 06The Future of Leia in the Star Wars Cinematic Universe - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:26:18] <exec> 08└─But boobies!!
[18:26:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03bootsy [3440] (Score:2) 02This happened to Gladiator - 06The Future of Leia in the Star Wars Cinematic Universe - 874 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:26:20] <exec> 08└─If you remember this Ridley Scott movie then you will recall that Oliver Reed died during filming and the film had to be re-written and edited around this. It arguably became a better film. Richard Harris died after the second Harry Potter film but the character shifted to a new actor. Now Carrie ow...
[18:30:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Re:[Meta] Quick check - 06House GOP Votes To Strip Independence From Congressional Ethics Office - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:30:58] <exec> 08└─it's not a slow news day. There were 17 items in the queue when this was posted. There were far less when the story was put into the posting queue.
[18:32:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:open source? - 06GM & Ford Introduce New 9-Speed Automatic Transmission - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:32:36] <exec> 08└─Be my guest, there is an open source car project -- https://www.osvehicle.com [osvehicle.com] But if you are used to driving a "normal car", this will be quite a step backwards...
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[19:22:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Did We Learn Nothing from the Matrix? - 06The Beating Heart of Solar Energy - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:22:43] <exec> 08└─A thermocouple would likely have to be mounted outside the body though since it draws power from the flow of heat through it from a hot to cool reservoir, and your body does its best to maintain everything within it at pretty much the same temperature. Also wouldn't work very well in locales that f...
[19:22:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Missing the point - 06The Beating Heart of Solar Energy - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:22:45] <exec> 08└─If you're assuming regular charging, especially if it can get enough charge from common artificial light (like so many PV calculators), then you might well be able to use a durable supercapacitor instead, and thus extend the service life almost indefinitely. I wonder how many days (weeks? months?) w...
[19:22:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02math - 06The Beating Heart of Solar Energy - 1737 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:22:47] <exec> 08└─The math... something feels weird here. A genuine 18650 weighs a hair under 50 g and looks like a AA battery and stores almost exactly 10 watthours (the fakes on ebay are much lighter and store much less energy, although they supposedly make up for it by catching on fire much more often). Those are...
[19:23:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Not to pile on, but.. - 06UCLA Mathematicians Bring Ocean to Life for Disney's ‘Moana’ - 423 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:23:23] <exec> 08└─2016 Disney Theatrical releases Feature films January 29 - The Finest Hours March 4 - Zootopia April 15 - The Jungle Book May 6 - Captain America: Civil War May 27 - Alice Through the Looking Glass June 17 - Finding Dory July 1 - The BFG August 12 - Pete's Dragon September 2 - The Light Between Ocea...
[19:23:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Maybe useful - 06UCLA Mathematicians Bring Ocean to Life for Disney's ‘Moana’ - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:23:26] <exec> 08└─I think you are comparing the best of the past with everything (good and bad) from today.
[19:23:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 1120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:23:59] <exec> 08└─So much supposition and assumption. The smart people turn down assistance? You're insane, bootstrapping yourself into a logically comfortable position where you can have shitty fucking ideals and deceive yourself into believing they're "good and righteous". There are two very large issues that relat...
[19:24:12] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Immerman [3985] 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 1037 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:13] <exec> 08└─>why is economic stimulus supposed to be better than wealth accumulation? Economic stimulus increases the flow of money, increasing wealth for many people - If I get an an extra dollar, which I spend on a haircut, the barber also gets an extra dollar of income, which he can spend on a meal, so that...
[19:24:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:re QE - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 712 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:24] <exec> 08└─Taxes are theft, yatta yatta whatever. There is no magic free market and society will always have to account for the human factor. UBI isn't theft or redistribution like you think. It is a social safety net that will improve the lives of millions, and much of the cost is already factored into existi...
[19:24:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:2) 02Re:re QE - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 1138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:26] <exec> 08└─Please jmorris, hear me out. I know it will go against your beliefs but one thing is belief and quite another is reality. Do you think you paid the entirety of the roads you travel? Do you think that the majority of the cost was borne by the poor to middle-class people? Nope. It was wealth redistri...
[19:24:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:29] <exec> 08└─>Could someone explain why a UBI (universal basic income) wouldn't simply drive up the cost of living by pretty much exactly the UBI amount? Because grocery stores destroy malformed but perfectly good produce and bakeries destroy their pastries at the end of the day so poor people can't scavenge the...
[19:24:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Estonians work in Finland - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:35] <exec> 08└─Pretty sure this UBI wouldn't be given to anyone who asks, it likely will require citizenship of Finland at the least.
[19:24:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why this will fail, and badly - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:39] <exec> 08└─It is easy to see the short term attraction. The government is already handing out a gob of benefits through a maze of programs that have high overhead, impose rules that encourage long term dependency, etc. But this is just doubling down on a bad idea. The bad idea is redistribution of wealth and a...
[19:24:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Sure... - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:50] <exec> 08└─The answer depends on the situation, the rights of the people involved, what purpose the device serves. In fact, it depends on pretty much every variable except the fact that it's an algorithm!
[19:25:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03gidds [589] (Score:2) 02Algorithms or implementations? - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 603 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:25:29] <exec> 08└─There seems to be some confusion between algorithms — which are abstract approaches to solving problems — and their concrete implementations. A program might contain implementations of many different algorithms, some customised or tuned to a particular purpose, and all working together to achiev...
[19:25:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Use something presumably abundant on Mars? - 06NASA Might Build an Ice House on Mars - 4033 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:25:51] <exec> 08└─I agree that sand is probably a better bet for long-term construction, but for quick-and-ready (and especially semi-autonomously constructed) shelter, water has a lot to offer. For the purposes of constructing early bases, it's probably safe to assume that both water and sand are both available in e...
[19:25:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Use something presumably abundant on Mars? - 06NASA Might Build an Ice House on Mars - 1221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:25:53] <exec> 08└─Sorry, seem to have missed the bit about mixing water with the sand. The water-sand mixture does seem to have promise, but has downsides as well, especially for early construction: now you have to mine both sand *and* water, and you have to make sure your sand doesn't "clog up" in the mold since it...
[19:28:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:2) 02Re:What sort of red meat? - 06Nutrition Data Review Shows Red Meat Has Neutral Effect on Cardiovascular Disease Risk Factors - 780 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:28:41] <exec> 08└─My point about "coronary-inducing" was pointed at, as Ayn mentions below, fat=energy. Without actually burning off that high level of energy being introduced into your system, your body has a tendency to store it for future use. Even if it doesn't leech into the bloodstream and cause blood vessels t...
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[20:22:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Not everything you need - 06Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a Shipping Container - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:22:33] <exec> 08└─The very first thing you need for a two-acre farm is two acres of land. I'm pretty sure that's not found in the container. ;-)
[20:22:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Not everything you need - 06Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a Shipping Container - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:22:35] <exec> 08└─Nah, you just stack the land vertically.
[20:22:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not everything you need - 06Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a Shipping Container - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:22:37] <exec> 08└─The marvel of dehydration, just add water! *FWWOOOSH* insta-farm.
[20:22:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not everything you need - 06Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a Shipping Container - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:22:39] <exec> 08└─Yes it's just like saying you can live like a billionaire musky playboy if you buy a bottle of musk. Then all you need is a billion dollars.
[20:22:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Where's the beef? - 06Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a Shipping Container - 538 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:22:41] <exec> 08└─Nice bio page for all the board members, but I have some doubts. For example, are the customers all vegan? No sign of any animals on the web pages, not even chickens for eggs. No fish tanks or ponds either (see New Alchemy Institute). Also, are there any farmers here that know about yields? Seems li...
[20:22:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fluffy website - 06Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a Shipping Container - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:22:44] <exec> 08└─Nice, glossy pictures, but no clues as to what is in the box for farming and what climate, land, water, labor, and organic inputs are required. Without more details can't say if it's something useful, or just a feel good thing money extraction thing.
[20:22:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03CZB [6457] (Score:1) 02not impressive - 06Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a Shipping Container - 495 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:22:46] <exec> 08└─Kind of odd that there are more project details in the prototype photos than in the website text. Seems like a project designed for corporations needing to charitable budget item. As a farmer who visits Africa fairly often, I'm pretty sure $50k can go a lot further if you use local tools, knowledge,...
[20:22:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Missing the point - 06The Beating Heart of Solar Energy - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:22:57] <exec> 08└─I wonder how many days (weeks? months?) worth of power an acceptably sized supercapacitor could store?
[20:23:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:is max width optimal? - 06The Moving Sofa Problem - 481 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:23:19] <exec> 08└─So to be clear here... you have redefined the problem, provided a trivial solution to this new fatuitous problem, and then used that as the basis for saying mathematicians and theorists are not good at engineering? What you just did is the logical equivalent of saying, "I am 100% confident that P is...
[20:23:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Awesome! - 06Matrix End-to-End Encrypted Messenging in Beta - 438 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:23:58] <exec> 08└─Jabber was awesome back in the day when everybody was writing their own XMPP client for fun. There was no money to be had in XMPP of course because XMPP was obscure free crap for pimply unwashed geeks. Then a bunch of greedy fucking assholes made a shiity bug-filled XMPP client and called it whaaaaa...
[20:24:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Not granular enough, solves the wrong problems - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:24:58] <exec> 08└─Pretty sure that's how "food stamps" work. It's just a credit card that can only buy certain goods like groceries and plastic forks.
[20:24:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03tekk [5704] (Score:1) 02Not Actually UBI? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 830 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:25:00] <exec> 08└─I thought the basic idea of UBI was that you were given enough money to handle you staying alive, thereby freeing you up to actually do productive things. Now I've not done exact research on the housing prices in Finland, at least not recently, but I'm going to guess that 560 Euros isn't going to be...
[20:25:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No, regulations create the algorithm - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 506 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:25:26] <exec> 08└─If a defective part causes the accident, the vehicle owner (i.e., their insurance) will pay damages to the injured party. In turn, the vehicle owner (i.e., their insurance provider) will attempt to collect reimbursement from the manufacturer (who probably also has liability insurance). Then the manu...
[20:26:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Icehouse lager - 06NASA Might Build an Ice House on Mars - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:26:11] <exec> 08└─NAZA NAZI NASA
[20:26:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Ice House? - 06NASA Might Build an Ice House on Mars - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:26:14] <exec> 08└─An expensive igloo ON MARS.
[20:28:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] 02Note: short-term and small amounts - 06Nutrition Data Review Shows Red Meat Has Neutral Effect on Cardiovascular Disease Risk Factors - 292 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:28:47] <exec> 08└─A few details are probably important to highlight here from TFA: For example, the length of time these experiments were done ranged from a few weeks to a few months as opposed to the years or decades that it could take people to develop cardiovascular disease or have a cardiovascular event.
[20:29:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:2) 02Re:What sort of red meat? - 06Nutrition Data Review Shows Red Meat Has Neutral Effect on Cardiovascular Disease Risk Factors - 1357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:29:07] <exec> 08└─I first tried kangaroo in the late 80's, but being city slicker, access to it was rare. Wasn't until the late 90's that it got to the point where the hunters doing the culls had access to affordable refrigerated vehicles to make butchering it for consumption cost effective. That's when I started eat...
[20:31:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:"Independent" - 06House GOP Votes To Strip Independence From Congressional Ethics Office - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:31:54] <exec> 08└─That's equality of outcome. See above re: bigotry poorly masquerading as equality.
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[21:22:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Googling for Vizio smart TV - 06Ransomware Arrives on Smart TVs - 488 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:22:31] <exec> 08└─Googling for Vizio smart TV [askmefast.com] I have tried these steps following and it worked: Step1: Press Volume Down wait for 3 seconds and at the same time press Power Button so you have to make sure you have press both. Step2: you will see the Factory Reset Interface on the Screen, if you...
[21:22:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:3, Funny) 02Back in the day - 06Ransomware Arrives on Smart TVs - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:22:32] <exec> 08└─Remember when TVs were simple? And light bulbs and toasters too. Computers had plain ASCII. No GUI. You had to memorize a stack of manuals -- that couldn't be removed from the computer room because they were bolted to a large table. And it was uphill both ways.
[21:22:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Back in the day - 06Ransomware Arrives on Smart TVs - 673 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:22:35] <exec> 08└─Remember when "simple" computers had complicated keyboard combinations? Remember Apple-Option-P-R to reset the PRAM? What the hell is a PRAM, how am I supposed to know to hold down four keys to reset the PRAM, and how the hell am I supposed to reach all four keys in the first place? And that was on...
[21:22:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Back in the day - 06Ransomware Arrives on Smart TVs - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:22:37] <exec> 08└─member having to replace tubes in your tv because the thing burned out again. member having to have two strong men to carry it around? good times good times
[21:22:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Funny) 02Re:Back in the day - 06Ransomware Arrives on Smart TVs - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:22:39] <exec> 08└─People kept losing their keys so we had combination cocks installed. [oglaf.com] [NSFW]
[21:22:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Back in the day - 06Ransomware Arrives on Smart TVs - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:22:41] <exec> 08└─Maybe I'm in the get-off-my-lawn club now, but I'd rather have my display just be that - a display. I don't want or need any complexity added to it. It should do what it is designed to do, which is display content sent over from elsewhere.
[21:22:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Factory reset, like a nerd? - 06Ransomware Arrives on Smart TVs - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:22:43] <exec> 08└─Use a secret recovery mode like dirty nerds? No way man. I'm gonna fire my shotgun at the screen. That's how real people solve techy problems in the real world. Nerds go back to nerdistan.
[21:22:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03CZB [6457] (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:Where's the beef? - 06Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a Shipping Container - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:22:55] <exec> 08└─Good point about animals, a proper symbiotic crop system ideal will have poultry at least. In ideal conditions wheat (the one crop I'm an expert in) can yield 120 bushels per acre, but 40 bu/a is the national average in the US. With some quick math two acres could produce 10,000 loaves of whole whea...
[21:22:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Where's the beef? - 06Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a Shipping Container - 402 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:22:57] <exec> 08└─Taking your numbers one step further, 10000 loaves of bread over 150 people = 66 loaves of bread per year per person. So on the high end with everything optimized, the 2 acres can grow enough wheat to make enough bread (I might eat a full loaf in a week). But nothing else except a lot of chaff. No m...
[21:23:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:not impressive - 06Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a Shipping Container - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:23:01] <exec> 08└─No kidding. $50K for a 2 acre "farm" seems really steep.
[21:23:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02re-invent - 06Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a Shipping Container - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:23:03] <exec> 08└─Cool someone reinvented Sears and Wards catalogs!
[21:23:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02is it news? - 06Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a Shipping Container - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:23:05] <exec> 08└─We have mentioned similar vertical farms in shipping containers before. If the price is $50k, that at least seems a little lower than what we've seen. http://insights.wired.com [wired.com] ($76k)
[21:23:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Missing the point - 06The Beating Heart of Solar Energy - 659 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:23:18] <exec> 08└─Well, a few weeks should be plenty, assuming you can generate much more power than required most days. And I don't know that leakage current is really an issue, so long as you can include a large enough capacitor to store the energy needed after factoring in leakage losses. I mean, basically everyth...
[21:23:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:is max width optimal? - 06The Moving Sofa Problem - 1376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:23:40] <exec> 08└─Don't be upset that you didn't catch the loose wording of the problem. Where does it explicitly state in the summary that the 90° hallway with the width of 1 is in the same plane as the shape with the largest area? It is your assumption that they are. The problem states there is an object of undete...
[21:23:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02The Moving Piano Problem - 06The Moving Sofa Problem - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:23:42] <exec> 08└─this is a real problem for me. I have a piano in storage in Canada. As my mother pays for the storage I'd like to get it out soon, but I live at the top of the stairway behing a door to one side. I am not at all certain that the movers can get the piano around that corner.
[21:23:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Moving Piano Problem - 06The Moving Sofa Problem - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:23:44] <exec> 08└─Call and get some estimates. Do not take upon yourself something you are not expert at. Piano movers are. I used to work with a very smart man. He pulls out his checkbook holds it up and says 'best tool in my toolbox'.
[21:24:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Not to pile on, but.. - 06UCLA Mathematicians Bring Ocean to Life for Disney's ‘Moana’ - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:24:01] <exec> 08└─On the other hand, the bad guy really didn't need to [SPOILER], since he already [SPOILER]. And that ruined it for me, given how that's the central thing which causes [SPOILER].
[21:24:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Maybe useful - 06UCLA Mathematicians Bring Ocean to Life for Disney's ‘Moana’ - 564 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:24:07] <exec> 08└─When I made my comment (parent) about old movies not being in general any better than today's, I think it was pretty clear I was restricting myself to CARTOONS. I agree that live-action movies today are generally worse. This is mostly because they have been dumbed down to appeal to an international...
[21:24:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe useful - 06UCLA Mathematicians Bring Ocean to Life for Disney's ‘Moana’ - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:24:09] <exec> 08└─I think you are comparing the best of the past with everything (good and bad) from today.
[21:24:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe useful - 06UCLA Mathematicians Bring Ocean to Life for Disney's ‘Moana’ - 3878 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:24:12] <exec> 08└─While I agree with you that Hollywood "blockbusters" today are more frequently built on special effects than ever (often to the detriment of other elements of film), I also find your post with its nostalgia for the old Star Wars trilogy to be just a little ironic. For it was films like that original...
[21:24:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:24:47] <exec> 08└─yet the conservatives are always the ones pushing massive restrictions on personal freedoms and legislating against behavior they don't like.
[21:24:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:24:50] <exec> 08└─It won't push up the cost of production much for anything where labour is not a significant part of the cost.
[21:24:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Tax to pay for it - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 732 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:24:58] <exec> 08└─> I spent a few years self-employed. My employee worked his arse off, but my employer never had enough money to pay the employee what he deserved. Easy to explain...small businesses take 5-10 years to establish a stable customer base. My tiny company, me and one contractor (in a high tax state) hav...
[21:25:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 662 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:25:05] <exec> 08└─Bingo :) You're describing the concept known as "velocity of money." The reason this works is because money isn't backed by anything concrete any longer; it's a floating fiat currency, essentially certificates of debt, or what amounts to promises to provide goods and/or services. When the money hits...
[21:25:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:No, regulations create the algorithm - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 615 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:25:52] <exec> 08└─I would assume that the process you describe implies that the ultimate responsibility is with the vendor, while the immediate responsibility lies with the vehicle owner. But let's not split hairs. The process you describe still relies on an accepted definition of what the algorithm should try to imp...
[21:26:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Use something presumably abundant on Mars? - 06NASA Might Build an Ice House on Mars - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:26:43] <exec> 08└─On the other hand, non-water bricks don't need to be kept at uncomfortable temps to retain structural integrity.
[21:27:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Just think if the NSA was on our side - 06U.S. Military Could Deploy More "Cyber Weapons" Against ISIS - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:27:56] <exec> 08└─This. And the stupidity of the Western media, too. Some idiot in the desert threatens the world, with less credibility than a linux geek threatening Microsoft, but OMGOMGOMG it's NEWS.
[21:27:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just think if the NSA was on our side - 06U.S. Military Could Deploy More "Cyber Weapons" Against ISIS - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:27:58] <exec> 08└─Then again the Linux geek has conquered Micro$oft...
[21:29:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Food Pyramid - 06Nutrition Data Review Shows Red Meat Has Neutral Effect on Cardiovascular Disease Risk Factors - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:29:16] <exec> 08└─Just a steaming plate of pure carbs.
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[22:22:32] <exec> 08└─
[22:22:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fishscene [4361] (Score:2) 02Re:"rethought to enable acts of terrorism" - 06German Security Vs the Constitution - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:22:34] <exec> 08└─My thoughts exactly. According to this article, Terrorism is being hindered by the separation of powers. Sounds like a win to me! Also, "terrorism" is a bogeyman.
[22:22:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02No dilemma - 06German Security Vs the Constitution - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:22:36] <exec> 08└─There is no dilemma. The terrorism kills so few people, that there isn't even any reaction needed at all. Better let the terrorists kill a few people, than let the government terrorize all people.
[22:22:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No dilemma - 06German Security Vs the Constitution - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:22:38] <exec> 08└─The government monopoly on terror must be preserved at all costs. Who do these uppity punks think they are.
[22:22:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Two weeks two days to go ... - 06German Security Vs the Constitution - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:22:40] <exec> 08└─> the government had a responsibility to respect the human rights of each individual, even those who are to be deported. To deport 11 million illegals efficiently, we're gonna use cattle trains. As they cross The Wall, there will be a sign about being free.
[22:22:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Choose - 06German Security Vs the Constitution - 435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:22:42] <exec> 08└─Germany must choose, and so must every other Western nation. They can either live in a police state or they can the muslims home. If you don't like those options feel free to attempt to propose an option #3, but you will fail since it will be obviously silly. Diversity + Proximity = War. This maxim...
[22:22:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Back in the day - 06Ransomware Arrives on Smart TVs - 623 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:22:52] <exec> 08└─Double bucky, you're the one! You make my keyboard lots of fun. Double bucky, an additional bit or two: (Vo-vo-de-o!) Control and meta, side by side, Augmented ASCII, nine bits wide! Double bucky! Half a thousand glyphs, plus a few! Oh, I sure wish that I Had a couple of...
[22:22:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Back in the day - 06Ransomware Arrives on Smart TVs - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:22:54] <exec> 08└─Yeah, that's right, shithead. Sidestep the issue of a secret reset sequence, and copypaste a obsolete joke about the number of keys on a space cadet keyboard. Do you know why your moronic fucking joke is obsolete? A modern keyboard has more keys than a space cadet keyboard. 100 Key Space Cadet [wi...
[22:22:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Back in the day - 06Ransomware Arrives on Smart TVs - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:22:58] <exec> 08└─I remember having to have a TV repairman having to manually adjust the deflection coils and hold settings using a mirror.
[22:22:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] 02Re:Back in the day - 06Ransomware Arrives on Smart TVs - 239 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:23:00] <exec> 08└─Maybe I'm in the get-off-my-lawn club now, but I'd rather have my display just be that - a display. I don't want or need any complexity added to it. It should do what it is designed to do, which is display content sent over from elsewhere.
[22:23:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Back in the day - 06Ransomware Arrives on Smart TVs - 941 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:23:02] <exec> 08└─yeah and I wish they kept making affordable 16:10 screens. But no, the non-geek laypeople wanted cheap 1366x768 laptop screens that could play DVDs. It is SO hard to find a good laptop with a 16:10 screen -- I have a 17" screen laptop that is ten years old with a 1680x1050 that I will never give up,...
[22:23:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Back in the day - 06Ransomware Arrives on Smart TVs - 885 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:23:04] <exec> 08└─For laptops this site has a decent filter http://www.xoticpc.com!/dir=asc&no_cache=true&order=price&size=13&screentyperes=163-95-96&p=clear [xoticpc.com] High res is going to cost you though on a laptop. 4k Monitors and TVs prices are...
[22:23:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Back in the day - 06Ransomware Arrives on Smart TVs - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:23:06] <exec> 08└─Try looking for "commercial" displays, as they usually have a lot of those smart features disabled. The problem with them is you have to be a little more careful as not all have tuners, not all have speakers, there may be less inputs (or one of each) and a few other caveats. Depending on your needs,...
[22:23:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Back in the day - 06Ransomware Arrives on Smart TVs - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:23:08] <exec> 08└─And it was uphill both ways.
[22:23:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:3, Funny) 02Black hole, son...(apologies to Soundgarden) - 06Ransomware Arrives on Smart TVs - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:23:12] <exec> 08└─"Dad, what's that?!?!?" "That's goatse, son." "Eww! Make it go away!" "I can't, the 'smart' TV has been hacked. We'll have to hook up the old 'dumb' TV." Welcome to the IoT, and comedy ensues...
[22:23:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Black hole, son...(apologies to Soundgarden) - 06Ransomware Arrives on Smart TVs - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:23:14] <exec> 08└─Only moderating you up for the subject line pun.
[22:23:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not everything you need - 06Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a Shipping Container - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:23:25] <exec> 08└─You'll smell the same, won't you? This container comes with a "full IOT system" meaning (to put it politely) a load of steer manure. That's all you need to smell like a farmer.
[22:23:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03anotherblackhat [4722] (Score:1) 02Re:Where's the beef? - 06Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a Shipping Container - 382 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:23:30] <exec> 08└─General rule of thumb is with good soil and irrigation, an acre can grow food for four people, but it varies a lot based on local conditions. John Jeavons (Author of How to Grow More Vegetables Than You Ever Thought Possible on Less Land Than You Can Imagine) believes you can do twice that (food for...
[22:23:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Did We Learn Nothing from the Matrix? - 06The Beating Heart of Solar Energy - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:23:46] <exec> 08└─Some parts of the body, especially a man's body, stay at a lower temperature than others.
[22:23:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Did We Learn Nothing from the Matrix? - 06The Beating Heart of Solar Energy - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:23:47] <exec> 08└─This. Between the digestive system and the pulmonary system, there are plenty of places to harmlessly harvest mechanical energy.
[22:24:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It depends entirely - 06The Moving Sofa Problem - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:24:03] <exec> 08└─According to the wikipedia page linked by grandparent, he did experience a similar problem in the dorms in college - couches that could no longer be moved through the stairwell after a remodel. Though that doesn't preclude being aware of the math problem.
[22:24:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02In the interest of redneck math conservation... - 06The Moving Sofa Problem - 870 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:24:19] <exec> 08└─I have a Sawzall, chainsaw, axe, and sledgehammer. With those, I can save my maths for tricky problems, and still get ANY sofa around ANY corner. I am proudly doing my part to save the maths! Hey y'all, watch this.... ;-) Disclaimer: I feel that I have arrived at this attitude to the problem(from TF...
[22:25:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:25:22] <exec> 08└─> The smart people turn down assistance? All the time. Look at how offended the Big Oil executives look when they get their subsidies.
[22:25:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:25:26] <exec> 08└─The point is, that labor costs are already only a small fraction of the production cost of most goods and many services. Even if you double the cost of labor, if that was only 10% of the cost of making a widget, the cost to buy a widget will only increase 10%.
[22:25:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:re QE - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:25:53] <exec> 08└─Do you think you paid the entirety of the roads you travel?
[22:25:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''grocery stores destroy [...] good produce'' - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:25:56] <exec> 08└─This has been illegal in France since 2015. [popularresistance.org] Note also that Massachusetts made the move in 2014. -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
[22:26:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03forkazoo [2561] (Score:2) 02Re:Sure... - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 562 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:26:11] <exec> 08└─I'd tell you why not, but I am not legally allowed to query a database of historical precedent to find a good example. Thank goodness the people who want to tamper with elections are also subject to the regulation. There's no way they'd want to commit an additional crime above and beyond tampering w...
[22:26:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What now? - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:26:42] <exec> 08└─Let's see, if I work for BMW, how am I going to train my AI? Obviously by tailgating, flashing lights and generally annoying as many other drivers as possible.
[22:27:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Use something presumably abundant on Mars? - 06NASA Might Build an Ice House on Mars - 2913 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:27:20] <exec> 08└─On the other-other hand - you're on Mars. Everything exposed to the ambient environment will always be far more than uncomfortably cold, including the outside of your habitat, no matter what it's made of. You're going to want a nice thick layer of insulation regardless - that may as well be inside t...
[22:32:49] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ikanreed [3164] 02Re:"Independent" - 06House GOP Votes To Strip Independence From Congressional Ethics Office - 999 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:32:49] <exec> 08└─Oh yeah, please tell me the lesson plans that included trusting the government. No really. Tell me about the days you went into class and had a teacher tell you that your government was looking out for your best interest. It was never once for me. I guess they taught kids to call 911 for emergencies...
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[23:22:31] <exec> 08└─Punctuation is important "Let's eat Grandma" != "Let's eat, Grandma"
[23:22:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:No dilemma - 06German Security Vs the Constitution - 1997 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:22:35] <exec> 08└─Good call. Having some(admittedly old) experience with the W. German state security(individual, as in TFA), and the Stasi, given the choice between total anarchy(ala Mad Max) and the Stasi, I would choose anarchy, any day. Having been caught by W. German security forces[1] one errant night, and enco...
[23:22:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Flamebait) 02Re:Choose - 06German Security Vs the Constitution - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:22:39] <exec> 08└─They can either live in a police state or they can [welcome] the muslims home.
[23:22:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Choose - 06German Security Vs the Constitution - 807 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:22:41] <exec> 08└─This sad viewpoint is trotted out all the time, yet it is very off base. There will always be a small group of extremists who promote violence, every world religion has/had them. There are Christians who quote the bible and attack abortion clinics and homosexuals. So knock off this cultural warfare...
[23:22:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Choose - 06German Security Vs the Constitution - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:22:43] <exec> 08└─work on real solutions
[23:22:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Choose - 06German Security Vs the Constitution - 592 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:22:45] <exec> 08└─Bacon eating contest ... you eat bacon you can stay because a rather flexible interpretation of dietary laws implies you're not a complete fanatic. If you are a fanatic, well, see ya, better off without. Its a very old problem in human history, what do you do when all the problems come from a small...
[23:22:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Choose - 06German Security Vs the Constitution - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:22:48] <exec> 08└─Maybe we should deport anyone of any of the Abrahamic faiths. They all hold to "sacred" scriptures that advocate slavery, murder, and genocide to appease their deity.
[23:23:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Back in the day - 06Ransomware Arrives on Smart TVs - 2256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:23:06] <exec> 08└─Thanks for the laptop link-- and as to the options you mentioend, I am pursing exactly that. It's an HP that I have, and I recently purchased a new CPU and new video module. There is a 1920x1200 screen available for it, but when I last looked the prices exceeded that of a new laptop. I didn't look r...
[23:23:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Back in the day - 06Ransomware Arrives on Smart TVs - 408 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:23:08] <exec> 08└─Indeed, a TV should be a TV. Buying hackable televisions and light bulbs is just stupid. Sometimes new is better, sometimes worse. I miss having a thermostat in my house that didn't need a battery. I miss potentiometers in car radios (digital knobs suck after a decade's use, pots just need switch oi...
[23:23:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:Black hole, son...(apologies to Soundgarden) - 06Ransomware Arrives on Smart TVs - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:23:14] <exec> 08└─Appreciate that, but be forewarned, I usually only post such ilk when I've been drinking. I've had a bad cold, and been under the influence of blackberry brandy mixed with blackberry tea, and honey. Old family recipe, and for medicinal purpose only, I (hic) assure you.
[23:23:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Where's the beef? - 06Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a Shipping Container - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:23:30] <exec> 08└─Especially ones sending them up to Siberia, Greenland, Canada and Alaska for Inuits to use...
[23:23:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Fluffy website - 06Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a Shipping Container - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:23:33] <exec> 08└─Now NASA just needs to make a version for Mars.
[23:23:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:is it news? - 06Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a Shipping Container - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:23:39] <exec> 08└─Similarly in the arctic: http://www.cbsnews.com [cbsnews.com]
[23:25:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Fails at scale? - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:25:23] <exec> 08└─Um, Runaway, did you just say "darkies"? You quite definitely are a moran and a racist, and you do not deserve a basic income! Nor do you deserve a response. UnAmerican Traitor! Please leave this site, you are giving everyone a bad reputation.
[23:25:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:re QE - 06Finland Launches Basic Income Experiment With Jan. 1 Cheques for Those in Pilot Project - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:25:55] <exec> 08└─As usual you keep your head firmly tucked between your butt cheeks. You're a greedy small minded person swallowing lame propaganda and spouting back pseudo-intellectual garbage. Explain what is 'fair' about enslaving one group of people to serve the wants and desires of another group?
[23:26:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02First algorithm to regulate - 06Opinion: Should Algorithms Be Regulated? - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:26:55] <exec> 08└─Do away with the following: 1) I see a problem that makes me feel bad 2) I'll make a rule against it that costs me nothing 3) Others had to do the work but it's making me feel better
[23:27:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02FAA and physics - 06SpaceX to Hopefully Resume Launches This Sunday, January 8, 2017 - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:27:06] <exec> 08└─Basically two completely separate subjects, each interesting Will the FAA get a farm fuzzy and grant a launch permit by this weekend? What evidence did X find that shows that reverting to the old fueling plan will fix the issue?
[23:29:03] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03microtodd [1866] 02Re:Why? - 06How Can I Help My Child to Fall Asleep and Stay Asleep? - 16 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:29:03] <exec> 08└─.......well shit
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