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[00:14:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Good. - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:14:08] <exec> 08└─sort of. There is no precedence here as the jury acquitted him rather than an appellate court overturning a conviction. So this might give people hope, but is relatively meaningless for future cases.
[00:14:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good. - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:14:09] <exec> 08└─If I'm not mistaken, even an acquittal does lay down a precedent. And even if it didn't, it might embolden other juries to return more acquittals in the future. (Dear God! No knock warrants are such a travesty!) But IANAL so you should take what I have to say with a grain of salt.
[00:14:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:And make sure the officers wear those t-shirts - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:14:12] <exec> 08└─I can get those on ebay too. Looking like an officer doesn't prove you're an officer. Occasionally a burglar will take advantage of this: http://www.nydailynews.com [nydailynews.com]
[00:14:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:And make sure the officers wear those t-shirts - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:14:14] <exec> 08└─Because that would help so much when they flashbang the guy.
[00:14:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fantastic news. - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:14:20] <exec> 08└─The injured cops will probably sue him. Civil lawsuits have a much lower bar for the plaintiff than criminal cases do for the prosecution.
[00:14:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fantastic news. - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:14:22] <exec> 08└─On what grounds? They smashed into his home, threw a grenade ... what did they expect?
[00:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02A better way - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:14:24] <exec> 08└─Drug dealing is not the most heinous crime, and doing a no-knock raid on a house is just a plain stupid way of handling this. Screw this police state we live in, its a load of garbage steadily putting us all at greater risk.
[00:14:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02The problem can be solved. - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 811 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:14:26] <exec> 08└─Does executing your no-knock drug raid, complete with guns drawn, pet-shooting, ransacking, traumatizing, and baby-maiming stun grenades, put you at an unfair and unreasonable risk of not only being shot, but also losing the lawsuit against the owner? Fear not, dear "bravest", there is hope for you!...
[00:14:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Insightful) 02Good for him - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:14:29] <exec> 08└─Good for this guy! It's a shame that he didn't kill any police officers!!
[00:14:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Unfortunate - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:14:32] <exec> 08└─If he'd been found not guilty after killing these police officers, then we might have got to see change. But just injured? I expect business as usual. It's a shame the officers lived.
[00:14:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I can see it now . . . - 06Uber's Self-Driving Cars to be Tested in San Francisco - 451 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:14:42] <exec> 08└─So why are you an evil racist if you oppose poor people moving from the inner cities into the suburbs and thereby pulling your property value down (which was happening in the 60s and 70s), but you are a defender of social justice if you oppose middle class people from moving into your neighborhood w...
[00:14:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:I can see it now . . . - 06Uber's Self-Driving Cars to be Tested in San Francisco - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:14:44] <exec> 08└─This is why you constantly think "SJWs" are unfairly calling you racist. Because you make it up. Did Bay Area housing prices more than double in a decade? Yes. Will that make anyone who considered that their home angry? Yes(unless they're an owner). Are the targets of their blame really, truly, ethi...
[00:15:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03cafebabe [894] (Score:2) 02Re:At home? - 06Aquantia Launches 2.5/5/10G Ethernet Chips for Consumers - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:15:05] <exec> 08└─H.264 at 3840*2160 requires up to 3.5Gb/s. This would be useful for security cameras or televisions.
[00:15:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:At home? - 06Aquantia Launches 2.5/5/10G Ethernet Chips for Consumers - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:15:07] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure I can live with the idea of my security cameras having the extra latency of h.264 or h.265. Contribution networks prefer JPEG2000 or VC-2, and I can't have anything that's not the best.
[00:15:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02missing tool - 06Aquantia Launches 2.5/5/10G Ethernet Chips for Consumers - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:15:17] <exec> 08└─not sure i want to continue using copper beyond 1G. just as the "same" copper cable went from 10 to 1000 Mbps, i think fiber optics can go from 1 to 100 Gbps. naw, i am holding out for phiber optics ... once they figure out a simple tool that allows for home users to make and terminate fiber optic c...
[00:16:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Where did we see this kind of research before? - 06Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:16:19] <exec> 08└─The U.S. is a wealthy country where we've chosen to give tax breaks to the rich rather than pay for basic services. We've got plenty of money to service our debt, we just continually elect crony capitalists because they're usually the only options. If you want to see crushing debt spiraling out of c...
[00:16:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Where did we see this kind of research before? - 06Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:16:23] <exec> 08└─I should mention that there's no evidence that Adolf Hitler was stupid. Nor much evidence that he was impulsive either: His political machinations, e.g. the Night of the Long Knives, were very carefully planned. Stupid and impulsive leaders tend to cause different kinds of problems than gas chambers...
[00:16:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Where did we see this kind of research before? - 06Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:16:30] <exec> 08└─u 2 dum 4 db8
[00:16:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03lgw [2836] (Score:2) 02Re:I can't believe I'm reading this - 06Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - 491 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:16:58] <exec> 08└─Social security isn't paid for by the people receiving it. It's a transfer of income from the young to the old, so on average from the less wealthy to more wealthy. I think there are better ways to help people retire, but regardless we should be honest about the current system. Taxing wealth leads v...
[00:17:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I can't believe I'm reading this - 06Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:17:07] <exec> 08└─That's the very nature of this Universe. Accept it.
[00:17:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I can't believe I'm reading this - 06Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:17:10] <exec> 08└─You are describing Capitalism: Individuals choosing to allocate their capital in a particular way. Get it yet?
[00:19:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:On my bed of nails - 06Can You Bounce Water Balloons Off a Bed of Nails? Yes, Says New Study - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:19:03] <exec> 08└─Go home junior. The best trolls are the clever trolls. If you used "balloons" instead of "tits", it would have been much more clever. As it is, it is unfunny adolescent humor.
[00:19:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Horrible article title - 06Can You Bounce Water Balloons Off a Bed of Nails? Yes, Says New Study - 1210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:19:11] <exec> 08└─Would anyone really think "no"? You can comfortably lay down on a bed of nails, you can do that and have someone break a cinderblock on your chest using a sledgehammer with no problem (I can find a handful of YouTube links showing this, but I was trying to find a clip from the 70s or 80s where I rem...
[00:19:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I don't object to advertising - 06Google and Others Face EU Curbs on How They Track Users to Drive Adverts - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:19:49] <exec> 08└─I object to tracking. One of the symptoms of my Schizoaffective Disorder is paranoia, which can be quite severe. The tracking inherent in modern advertising systems makes my paranoia worse. I use U-Block Origin not so much because it blocks ads but because it blocks tracking.
[00:19:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Lemme see - 06Google and Others Face EU Curbs on How They Track Users to Drive Adverts - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:19:50] <exec> 08└─"This is very concerning — it's putting at risk the entire internet as we know it," said Yves Schwarzbart, head of policy and regulatory affairs at the Internet Advertising Bureau in the UK. "Our number one concern is asking for prior permission. Advertising is the funding model of the internet, a...
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[01:14:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hawkwind [3531] (Score:2) 02Meeting in parallel universes - 06Russia and Japan to Attempt Normalization of Relations - 1375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:14:12] <exec> 08└─After day one there appears to be a good amount of disagreement as to what is actually going on: http://www.japantimes.co.jp [japantimes.co.jp]. After the first three-hour meeting, Abe told reporte...
[01:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Meeting in parallel universes - 06Russia and Japan to Attempt Normalization of Relations - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:14:13] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I heard something similar, perhaps even a joint military collaboration on the disputed lands. " Dimitri trade Sohai snuff porn for shitting dick nipples, da? " *bows* " Hai! "
[01:14:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Second World Problems - 06Russia and Japan to Attempt Normalization of Relations - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:14:16] <exec> 08└─Nuclear war of attrition is the only possible solution!
[01:14:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Subsentient [1111] 02Good. - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 49 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:14:24] <exec> 08└─Finally some good news. That's all I have to say.
[01:14:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03MrGuy [1007] 02That's not how precedent works. - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 79 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:14:33] <exec> 08└─Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid
[01:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Fantastic news. - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:14:39] <exec> 08└─Anyone can sue for anything. Doesn't mean they'll win though. If sued he could always countersue for emotional trauma.
[01:14:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geotti [1146] (Score:2) 02Re:The problem can be solved. - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:14:43] <exec> 08└─we have way too many rusting in the desert
[01:14:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:The problem can be solved. - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:14:45] <exec> 08└─Great, now I'll need a ten foot trench around my compound to keep the tanks out!
[01:14:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:The problem can be solved. - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:14:48] <exec> 08└─they won't stop making them because of Congressional districts.
[01:14:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Unfortunate - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:14:52] <exec> 08└─If he'd been found not guilty after killing these police officers, then we might have got to see change. But just injured? I expect business as usual. It's a shame the officers lived.
[01:14:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Unfortunate - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:14:54] <exec> 08└─That's why it would be better if he killed all 3. Then cops will question if dangerous no knock raids are actually nessecary. The sad fact is no knock raids are only dangerous for the citizens. They need to be equally dangerous for police so they aren't misused.
[01:14:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Unfortunate - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:14:56] <exec> 08└─No-knock raids shouldn't even exist in most cases.
[01:14:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Unfortunate - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 702 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:14:58] <exec> 08└─They may be justified, on a rare occasion. Let's say the dude is wanted for multiple murders, he is known to have an armory, and has vowed not to be taken alive. Or, he has active, proven connections to a real terror group. These kinds of things don't happen every day - we're talking maybe a dozen t...
[01:15:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:2) 02Re:Unfortunate - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 1341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:15:00] <exec> 08└─And if they had killed him — even though he had nothing to do with the raid or the alleged drug dealing — they would have never even been charged with manslaughter, let alone murder. Cops are allowed to shoot at you, you are allowed to shoot at intruders, cops are allowed to kill you, you are no...
[01:15:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Appeal filed in 3... 2... 1... - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:15:03] <exec> 08└─And it will get overturned in appeal.
[01:15:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:Appeal filed in 3... 2... 1... - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:15:05] <exec> 08└─Acquittals cant be appealed idiot.
[01:15:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Appeal filed in 3... 2... 1... - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:15:07] <exec> 08└─Depends on the country. In the USA you're right but in italy, Spain and a few others I can think of the prosecutor can appeal an acquittal. This happened not to long ago with an American in italy. Can't remember the name or the source but if you're interested google can probably find it for you. No...
[01:15:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Appeal filed in 3... 2... 1... - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 585 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:15:09] <exec> 08└─I'm not so very sure about that. The constitution says they can't be appealed or overturned - that's the whole idea of "double jeapordy". Findlaw isn't exactly "legal counsel", but check this out - http://criminal.findlaw.com [findlaw.com] In th...
[01:15:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I can see it now . . . - 06Uber's Self-Driving Cars to be Tested in San Francisco - 690 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:15:21] <exec> 08└─Did suburban housing prices drop around cities like Detroit, Washington DC, etc. when inner city people moved outwards? Yes. Will that make anyone who considered that their home angry? Yes. Are the targets of their blame really, truly, ethically culpable? Probably not. In your example, your conclusi...
[01:15:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Red Lights - 06Uber's Self-Driving Cars to be Tested in San Francisco - 506 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:15:27] <exec> 08└─Use Lyft. Their drivers are happier and can receive tips, and actually show up within minutes and at 1/2 - 3/4 the rate of the Somali and Eritrean cabbies who show up 2 hours late (if at all) and would rather be shooting dice in some parking lot. Many driver drive for both Uber and Lyft and when ask...
[01:15:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Red Lights - 06Uber's Self-Driving Cars to be Tested in San Francisco - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:15:29] <exec> 08└─No, thanks. I'll walk or bike instead, unless it's too hard [youtube.com].
[01:16:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03FatPhil [863] 02This is far from uncommon - 06Asahi Buys SABMiller's Eastern European Beers for $7.8 Billion - 1311 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:16:30] <exec> 08└─Once the international macros have acquired an enormous portfolio of national brands, as soon as they feel the need to merge with other macros, they look at their list and work out what they'll need to sell in order to not violate any competition rules. E.g. in 2000, in the UK, Carling, Worthington,...
[01:16:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Where did we see this kind of research before? - 06Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:16:57] <exec> 08└─I wonder what our scientific knowledge says about 1/4th to 1/5th of OUR children in the United States being malnourished?
[01:17:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Where did we see this kind of research before? - 06Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:17:10] <exec> 08└─Nobody is willing to let them just starve in the streets. They won't stop reproducing, either. Nobody is willing to tell them they cannot reproduce. Even if we were to assume some kind of social eugenics, nobody is willing to take their children from them as infants so they can be raised outside of...
[01:20:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:End of the Internet as we know it - 06Google and Others Face EU Curbs on How They Track Users to Drive Adverts - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:20:20] <exec> 08└─We're gonna teach them data abstinence.
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[02:25:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:2) 02its almost like - 06Australian Judge Orders ISPs to Block Pirate Sites - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:25:45] <exec> 08└─These idiots haven't heard of vpn's.
[02:25:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Appalbarry [66] (Score:2) 02Also, buggywhips - 06Australian Judge Orders ISPs to Block Pirate Sites - 475 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:25:47] <exec> 08└─98% of the time if I'm downloading from the Pirate Bay it's a product that I would have paid for, but which some corporation refuses to sell me at a reasonable price. Geoblocking in particular, a concept that is utterly pointless in this day and age, is something that just irritates me no end. Inste...
[02:26:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Re:Good. - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 1166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:26:09] <exec> 08└─And I shall. The result of a jury trial is indeed no precedent. As a general rule, a court judgment that establishes a precedent is one in which the court says it is "for publication", or something along those lines. Publication means that it's published in a hardbound collection of court opinions,...
[02:26:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good. - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:26:11] <exec> 08└─And I shall. The result of a jury trial is indeed no precedent....
[02:26:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good. - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:26:14] <exec> 08└─The problem with that is that many states do no allow you to cite similar jury verdicts. You could be charged with criminal conspiracy and be unable to tell the jury that all of the other alleged conspirators were already acquitted.
[02:26:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:The problem can be solved. - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:26:28] <exec> 08└─Tank protections for your compound? The neighbors will think you're going a bit Waco.
[02:26:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The problem can be solved. - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:26:30] <exec> 08└─Boehner represented the 8th congressional district. The tank plant is in Lima, which is in the 4th district. So no.
[02:26:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimtheowl [5929] (Score:2) 02Re:Good for him - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:26:33] <exec> 08└─What's a shame is the way you think. What good could have possibly come out of this if people had died?
[02:26:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Unfortunate - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:26:40] <exec> 08└─No-knock raids shouldn't even exist.
[02:26:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Precedent set: Take No Prisoners - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:26:48] <exec> 08└─That's the precedent that is set. If a person attempts defend their home, make sure they are dead so they can't contest the "facts". Shoot them "accidentally", if you have to. There will be no consequences save maybe a stern talking-to.
[02:27:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Red Lights - 06Uber's Self-Driving Cars to be Tested in San Francisco - 853 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:27:05] <exec> 08└─Lyft, the choice of discriminating ethnocentrists everywhere! The offhand racism in your review not withstanding, none of these companies offers the ability to hire a ride via their website. Only with a smartphone application that also tracks my whereabouts and mines data. That conflicts with my bur...
[02:28:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Where did we see this kind of research before? - 06Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - 912 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:28:35] <exec> 08└─18 months ago I would've thought your statement hyperbole, almost bordering on the offensive. However, today with White Nationalists (Nazis) effectively having seized the U.S government, a hate filled culture is being exposed for what it is. Some days I have very little hope for the human race. We'r...
[02:28:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02not gas chambers - 06Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:28:54] <exec> 08└─If you take the long-term view, focusing on future generations, we can solve this with sterilization. We can even get some near-term benefit if we sterilize the males via castration, since that reduces aggression.
[02:29:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:I can't believe I'm reading this - 06Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:29:19] <exec> 08└─How, precisely, do you figure Medicare is anything but an entitlement?
[02:29:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:teleportation - 06What’s Lurking in Your Showerhead? - 1333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:29:46] <exec> 08└─Seconded, I don't know shit about plumbing but I know that showerhead clogs are caused by minerals 'n' shit. The rare case I saw is that a friend who had one of those large-diamater showerheads noticed that the head pipe started getting musically resonant (sound roughly like a rusty gate hinge swive...
[02:30:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Some call me Tim [5819] (Score:2) 02No droids allowed! - 06What’s Lurking in Your Showerhead? - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:30:17] <exec> 08└─I opened my shower head up and could clearly hear the Cantina Band playing. It was a retched hive of scum and villainy.
[02:31:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Units.. - 06Multi-Material 3D Printer Squirts Out Homemade Electronic Circuits - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:31:13] <exec> 08└─It seems the intended dimensions are (8 in)^3 and (20 cm)^3, which are indeed the same.
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[03:26:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:its almost like - 06Australian Judge Orders ISPs to Block Pirate Sites - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:26:32] <exec> 08└─Every idiot has heard of torrents, and that's why your favorite torrent sites get blocked, idiot. Gonna go download gigs of pirated shit, not using torrents. But you keep using torrents, moron.
[03:26:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02Re:its almost like - 06Australian Judge Orders ISPs to Block Pirate Sites - 1004 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:26:35] <exec> 08└─Who are these "idiots" to which you refer, Bogsnoticus? Ordinary Australians? Unnecessarily judgemental, and flat out wrong. Humans don't need to be experts in every field to be valid. The real idiocy here is that ordinary people have to take extraordinary steps in order to go about their daily life...
[03:26:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Also, buggywhips - 06Australian Judge Orders ISPs to Block Pirate Sites - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:26:38] <exec> 08└─That's like corporations hiring foreign workers saying they would be willing to pay more for US workers, if they didn't act entitled, goof off during work hours and take too much sick leave. Is that fair?
[03:26:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Not all bad - 06Australian Judge Orders ISPs to Block Pirate Sites - 649 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:26:42] <exec> 08└─At least the judge understands that the "rights holders" should foot the bill. That $50 he cites isn't nearly enough, but it's something. The ISP's should hold out for more like $5000 per site blocked - for each ISP that does the blocking. That would be a more reasonable fee for the service that the...
[03:27:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fuck da police - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:27:39] <exec> 08└─If even whities start yelling "fuck da police", what does that tell ya?! "The Land of the Free" my ass.
[03:27:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02I have no objection to this outcome - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 723 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:27:41] <exec> 08└─I'm basically pro cop, but you can't fault a guy for reacting to attackers who never identified themselves as police. You invade a guy's home and no holds are barred. If a cop says hands up, you obey and let the lawyers sort it out later if the cop was overreaching his authority because no other sys...
[03:28:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score:2) 02Re:At home? - 06Aquantia Launches 2.5/5/10G Ethernet Chips for Consumers - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:28:22] <exec> 08└─currently - on my networks - servers, storage, CPU and RAM are vastly overspecced for what we do
[03:28:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score:2) 02Location unimportant - 06Aquantia Launches 2.5/5/10G Ethernet Chips for Consumers - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:28:33] <exec> 08└─Does anybody here need this caliber of Ethernet at home?
[03:28:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02some more info - 06A New Rapid X-Ray Technique Using Ultra-Short Electron Beams - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:28:44] <exec> 08└─https://desy.cfel.de/e100031/e162254/e162264/ [desy.cfel.de] ultrafast x-ray lasers are currently developing rapidly and have many uses, but it looks like this group is doing crystallography (i.e. finding where the atoms are in relation to each other).
[03:29:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03tisI [5866] (Score:2) 02Re:Where did we see this kind of research before? - 06Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:29:43] <exec> 08└─But such a president need not build gas chambers but to save money, just build a wall. New prisons and gas chambers can always come later ..
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[04:25:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Don't forget the soundtrack - 06Massive Atlantic Wave Sets Record Says World Meteorological Organization - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:25:40] <exec> 08└─https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqC3BjIyq_0 [youtube.com]
[04:25:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't forget the soundtrack - 06Massive Atlantic Wave Sets Record Says World Meteorological Organization - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:25:42] <exec> 08└─And yet, not even close to the record for the largest wave surfed.
[04:25:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02The perfect storm - 06Massive Atlantic Wave Sets Record Says World Meteorological Organization - 867 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:25:44] <exec> 08└─http://gcaptain.com/sandy-wave-height-analysis/ [gcaptain.com] 1991 “Perfect Storm” Wave Heights On October 30, 1991, a buoy located 425 km (264 mi) south-southeast of Halifax reported a peak wave height of 30.5 m, or 100 ft., representing the highest wave height ever measured on the Scotian She...
[04:25:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Also, buggywhips - 06Australian Judge Orders ISPs to Block Pirate Sites - 954 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:25:55] <exec> 08└─False equivalence. Giant corporations--the very same ones you decry in your comment--have pushed for and succeeded in getting exceedingly draconian copyright laws and censorship. Since this is a case which involves the government censoring websites at the behest of corporations, I'm not sure where t...
[04:25:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Also, buggywhips - 06Australian Judge Orders ISPs to Block Pirate Sites - 429 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:25:57] <exec> 08└─"98% of the time if I'm downloading from the Pirate Bay it's a product that I would have paid for, but which some corporation refuses to sell me at a reasonable price." In my case it's been working versions of nonworking programs that I already paid for and can't get a refund on. If it weren't for s...
[04:25:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02Re:Not all bad - 06Australian Judge Orders ISPs to Block Pirate Sites - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:26:00] <exec> 08└─As yet, there is no clear method for appealing a block order, so any site could find itself blocked, based on some movie company's whim.
[04:26:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03DutchUncle [5370] (Score:2) 02Re:Good. - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:26:23] <exec> 08└─>>>>the possibility that an armed person could be there and will start shooting. So the problem is, as a result of this, will the police start coming in actively firing to suppress any opposition (by killing it first)?
[04:26:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Good. - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 711 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:26:25] <exec> 08└─No-knock warrants may be necessary to secure evidence, but the larger question is if that evidence is worth risking the life and limb of non-consenting innocents. How many drug busts make the brutal death of an innocent a good trade? I argue that it's simply not conscionable. Even beyond that, I dou...
[04:26:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:Fantastic news. - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:26:36] <exec> 08└─The precedent that will be learned here is for the police to go in with guns blazing and kill anyone inside before they have a chance to shoot back.
[04:27:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:At home? - 06Aquantia Launches 2.5/5/10G Ethernet Chips for Consumers - 1517 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:27:34] <exec> 08└─Well, framerate seems to have been capped at 60 fps and resolution to 1080p for a while now, pretty much for the first time I can think of after computers could meaningfully use higher res than NTSC/PAL. Now however there's 4K along with 2 more bits of color depth. If that weren't enough, here comes...
[04:27:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Location unimportant - 06Aquantia Launches 2.5/5/10G Ethernet Chips for Consumers - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:27:50] <exec> 08└─Not everyone is rich enough to pick up the $300 MU-MIMO wireless router or the 1.7 GB/s write speed SSD. You want fast? You better open your wallet fast.
[04:29:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:I can't believe I'm reading this - 06Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:29:44] <exec> 08└─They entirely fail to recognize the value of leisure
[04:29:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:I can't believe I'm reading this - 06Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:29:49] <exec> 08└─For example, primitive communism, still practiced in some isolated tribes
[04:30:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:It. - 06What’s Lurking in Your Showerhead? - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:30:34] <exec> 08└─Aaaaaaaaand, I'm still not dead. Wait.... Nope, not dead.
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[05:25:57] <exec> 08└─You Yanks come up with all sorts of claims for this and that, I'm afraid. The guidelines for what constitutes an acceptable measurement are clearly laid out in the manuals for those who have the patience to read them.
[05:25:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Don't forget the trough.... - 06Massive Atlantic Wave Sets Record Says World Meteorological Organization - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:25:58] <exec> 08└─Buoy reported wave measurements are deviation from mean... in the trough before this wave, you'd be looking up at over 100' vertical rise of water.
[05:26:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:2) 02Re:its almost like - 06Australian Judge Orders ISPs to Block Pirate Sites - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:26:09] <exec> 08└─I'm referring to the judiciary, and the MAFIAA. Every single newspaper article in the last 24 months about piracy in Australia has specifically mentioned how this sort of blocking will have no impact on VPN users. The information is out there, they're easy to find, easy to set up, and will completel...
[05:26:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Re:Not all bad - 06Australian Judge Orders ISPs to Block Pirate Sites - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:26:17] <exec> 08└─Except for Mexicans! Mexican should pay more, since they are not Americans!
[05:26:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02As an initial step - 06Russia and Japan to Attempt Normalization of Relations - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:26:27] <exec> 08└─Diplomats for each country agreed to refrain from making comments such as "Nuke them" whenever the other country was mentioned in conversation.
[05:27:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Gone Waco - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 382 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:27:01] <exec> 08└─The problem there is that Waco actually happened: agents of the US federal government attacked a church community, accused the leader of heinous crimes, then killed everyone including the accused so there needn't be a trial where messy things like evidence and lack thereof would be brought up. (Ther...
[05:27:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Potential good - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:27:06] <exec> 08└─For one, there could be less people around who think it's okay to break into other peoples' homes, throw grenades and shoot at the occupants, etc.
[05:27:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Appeal filed in 3... 2... 1... - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:27:18] <exec> 08└─but in italy, Spain and a few others I can think of the prosecutor can appeal an acquittal.
[05:27:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Your innocence is charming - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 709 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:27:20] <exec> 08└─Circumvent - or ignore. Wayne Fincher spent six years in a cage over a matter of $600 tax that the tax office refuses to accept, and at his trial, he was forbidden to defend himself. (Intra-state manufacture of two actual machine guns and a short-barreled shotgun, BATFE refuses to accept such "new"...
[05:27:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Precedent set? Cops already murder their victims - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:27:23] <exec> 08└─That's the precedent that is set. If a person attempts defend their home, make sure they are dead so they can't contest the "facts".
[05:28:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"need" - 06Aquantia Launches 2.5/5/10G Ethernet Chips for Consumers - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:28:14] <exec> 08└─Found the guy who doesn't work in IT.
[05:29:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Where did we see this kind of research before? - 06Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:29:34] <exec> 08└─Those choices make it selection, pal. There are plenty of ways to reward people for choosing not to reproduce.
[05:30:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:I can't believe I'm reading this - 06Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:30:14] <exec> 08└─I'd really LOVE to see you attempt to prove Capitalism from first principles!
[05:30:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:I can't believe I'm reading this - 06Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - 954 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:30:16] <exec> 08└─So you'r citing Marx as a capitalist? I find that a HUUUUUUGE stretch. And yes, since the context was capitalism, I do think it's reasonable to think I am talking about capitalists. I've noticed that Marx (or rather, his writing since he's dead) isn't frequently consulted when the U.S. considers eco...
[05:31:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Too clean is bad for you - 06What’s Lurking in Your Showerhead? - 775 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:31:09] <exec> 08└─Some very intelligent Soylentils have alluded to this, but keep in mind that killing all the microorganisms in your living environment is bad for you. We do not live in individual bubbles. We live in an incredibly complex and intertwined world. Our bodies are kept alive by a lot of things supporting...
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[06:25:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Why Me Work - 06UK Government Digital Service Faces a Brain Drain - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:25:46] <exec> 08└─Why work when you can torrent all day on the dole instead? leaving public service to go and work in the private sector,"
[06:25:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02More $$$ and benefits? - 06UK Government Digital Service Faces a Brain Drain - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:25:47] <exec> 08└─That's kinda how things work. Increase your salary, increase your upward mobility, drop 90% of the rules government workers suffer. Voila, problem solved. Except the salary is defined by their definition of Congress, open jobs are subject to connections, and 90% of the rules keep things as they are.
[06:25:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:More $$$ and benefits? - 06UK Government Digital Service Faces a Brain Drain - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:25:49] <exec> 08└─The United Republic Of Great Brain And North Aiur has a Congress now?
[06:25:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02This was totally expected - 06UK Government Digital Service Faces a Brain Drain - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:25:51] <exec> 08└─Ten senior civil servants left the Government Digital Service (GDS) in the year to April, the BBC has learned. This has prompted concern as to why the service cannot hang on to its most experienced staff.
[06:25:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This was totally expected - 06UK Government Digital Service Faces a Brain Drain - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:25:54] <exec> 08└─There is a highly appropriate quote from the movie "Trainspotting" for this, right? Did you just say, "fortnight"?
[06:26:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't forget the soundtrack - 06Massive Atlantic Wave Sets Record Says World Meteorological Organization - 572 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:26:04] <exec> 08└─There is a difference between shore break, and open ocean rollers. Ships usually stay out of surf zones, but rogue waves pose an actual threat, and one hard to predict? Something to do with harmonic resonance, but that is different that just big stormy seas. Landlubbers!! Although I do recall an in...
[06:26:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The perfect storm - 06Massive Atlantic Wave Sets Record Says World Meteorological Organization - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:26:08] <exec> 08└─It seems to me that TFA is in error. Am I missing something?
[06:26:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Roo_Boy [1762] (Score:1) 02Re:Not all bad - 06Australian Judge Orders ISPs to Block Pirate Sites - 645 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:26:26] <exec> 08└─There is section 11 of the judgement: 11. The owner or operator of a Target Online Location and the owner or operator of any website who claims to be affected by these orders may apply on 3 days’ written notice, including notice to all parties, to vary or discharge these orders, with any such...
[06:26:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not all bad - 06Australian Judge Orders ISPs to Block Pirate Sites - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:26:29] <exec> 08└─Well, what if there were two Mexicans, and they had a torrent together, that was on Australian soil, then the kid would be a citizen, right?
[06:26:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not all bad - 06Australian Judge Orders ISPs to Block Pirate Sites - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:26:31] <exec> 08└─What if there were three Mexicans, a sperm donor, a genetic mamasita, a mitochondrial mamasita, and, no, that is three. Could they not have to pay the fines that Runaway1234 is proposing? Because, baby makes four, and with six you get egg-rolls, but now we are verging into Ethanol_fueled Territory....
[06:26:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good. - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:26:59] <exec> 08└─It's a good thing we put so much emphasis on making it hard to jail innocents.
[06:29:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:Where did we see this kind of research before? - 06Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:29:37] <exec> 08└─Stupid and impulsive leaders tend to cause different kinds of problems than gas chambers, like invading a country halfway around the world for no reason.
[06:29:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Where did we see this kind of research before? - 06Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:29:48] <exec> 08└─Perhaps you should read what I wrote. Then comment. Note the use of the term "systematic".
[06:29:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:not gas chambers - 06Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:29:55] <exec> 08└─We already basically do this; it's called prison -- those males are for all practical purposes out of the breeding pool.
[06:30:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:I can't believe I'm reading this - 06Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:30:33] <exec> 08└─So you'r citing Marx as a capitalist?
[06:31:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03takyon [881] 02Re:2013? - 06Yahoo! Discloses Second Hack of More Than a Billion Accounts - 198 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:31:45] <exec> 08└─Now that the breach has been disclosed, the attackers may accelerate their efforts to try Yahoo! passwords on other sites. That's if anything was taken at all. Yahoo! certainly doesn't seem to know.
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[07:25:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Hilary lost - 06Every Meal Eaten Estimated to Cost the Planet 10 Kilos of Lost Topsoil - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:25:48] <exec> 08└─Jeez these lib guys just can't handle reality.
[07:25:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Jill lost - 06Every Meal Eaten Estimated to Cost the Planet 10 Kilos of Lost Topsoil - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:25:49] <exec> 08└─Make America Green Again!
[07:25:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Let them eat cake - 06Every Meal Eaten Estimated to Cost the Planet 10 Kilos of Lost Topsoil - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:25:52] <exec> 08└─Once we've eaten the topsoil, can haz cake?
[07:25:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Appalbarry [66] (Score:2) 02And Air! Food uses air! - 06Every Meal Eaten Estimated to Cost the Planet 10 Kilos of Lost Topsoil - 435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:25:54] <exec> 08└─No, I won't waste time reading the TFA. Idiotic claims like this are a pointless waste of time. Topsoil (however you define that) is not being "used" in the sense that it magically disappears, never to be seen again. The environment is closed system (more or less) and what we grow, eat, poop, or dis...
[07:25:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And Air! Food uses air! - 06Every Meal Eaten Estimated to Cost the Planet 10 Kilos of Lost Topsoil - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:25:56] <exec> 08└─By my math the topsoil in the US will last about 200k years.
[07:25:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Ok - 06Every Meal Eaten Estimated to Cost the Planet 10 Kilos of Lost Topsoil - 1230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:25:58] <exec> 08└─"When you multiply it by 7 to 10 billion people each eating around a thousand meals a year, you can see why food is fast becoming the challenge of our age." Food has been the challenge of every age. But we have managed to genetically modify plants to grow in all sorts of conditions to feed an explod...
[07:26:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02basic income to the rescue - 06UK Government Digital Service Faces a Brain Drain - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:26:10] <exec> 08└─Basic Income will fix this problem by ensuring every dumb code money has a banana.
[07:26:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02Re:Not all bad - 06Australian Judge Orders ISPs to Block Pirate Sites - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:26:41] <exec> 08└─With no standard of proof as to rights of the Target Online Location or affected website being asserted How do you prove you own everything hosted on your site/s?
[07:26:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02How can Donald Trump make it worse? - 06Russia and Japan to Attempt Normalization of Relations - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:26:55] <exec> 08└─It seems like a good thing, so how can Donald get involved and shit all over everything?
[07:26:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How can Donald Trump make it worse? - 06Russia and Japan to Attempt Normalization of Relations - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:26:57] <exec> 08└─Japan is a U.S. ally and Russia is a Trump ally so everything will be great. Again.
[07:30:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Where did we see this kind of research before? - 06Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:30:04] <exec> 08└─TIL every society is a eugenics society wait for it... TIL I am a sucker
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[08:25:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Musky Life on Mars - 06A Promising Spot for Life On Mars - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:25:42] <exec> 08└─There will be native Martians as soon as Musky rockets his pregnant harem to the Musky Planet.
[08:25:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:And Air! Food uses air! - 06Every Meal Eaten Estimated to Cost the Planet 10 Kilos of Lost Topsoil - 941 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:54] <exec> 08└─No one said that topsoil is not being replenished. The point is that modern agriculture is consuming it faster than natural processes can replenish it. That is what is meant by “lost”. And since by your own admission you did not read TFA, the author actually proposes the following, rather than m...
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[08:25:57] <exec> 08└─TFA presents the worse possible case, and - in order to be click-baity - hugely oversimplifies things. Just for example, pesticides [ourworldindata.org]. The figure of 0.3g is roughly correct, if you assume that all pesticides produced are used, and used on food crops. Note that "pesticides" include...
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[08:25:59] <exec> 08└─"The human jawbone is now by far the most destructive implement on the planet. It's wrecking soil and water, clearing forests, emptying oceans of fish and destroying wildlife as never before – but few people realise it because of long industrial food-chains that hide the damage from them," he says...
[08:26:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score:2) 02Only 60 Years Left If Soil Degradation Continues - 06Every Meal Eaten Estimated to Cost the Planet 10 Kilos of Lost Topsoil - 1218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:26:01] <exec> 08└─According to UN figures, there are only 60 years of farming left if soil degradation continues [scientificamerican.com]. It takes hundreds if not thousands of years to build up topsoil. Far north, even a millimeter takes many centuries. Further south, it's still not fast, especially in comparison to...
[08:26:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:basic income to the rescue - 06UK Government Digital Service Faces a Brain Drain - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:26:14] <exec> 08└─Banana income to be paid in shitcoin.
[08:26:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:The perfect storm - 06Massive Atlantic Wave Sets Record Says World Meteorological Organization - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:26:28] <exec> 08└─lameness filter
[08:27:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02A better way - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 224 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:27:32] <exec> 08└─Drug dealing is not the most heinous crime, and doing a no-knock raid on a house is just a plain stupid way of handling this. Screw this police state we live in, its a load of garbage steadily putting us all at greater risk.
[08:30:29] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] 02Re:I can't believe I'm reading this - 06Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - 133 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:30:29] <exec> 08└─You'll also note the right-wing sentiment rising in Europe. They are sick of paying for it as well, and having little to show for it.
[08:32:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No thanks. - 06OpenStreetView? You are No Longer Hostage to Google's Car-Driven Vision - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:32:20] <exec> 08└─not sure when it was added, that was when I first checked
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[09:26:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Do Your Part - 06Every Meal Eaten Estimated to Cost the Planet 10 Kilos of Lost Topsoil - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:26:07] <exec> 08└─See? This is why I don't pick up my dog's poop. I'm trying to restore the environment and ensure a better future for my grandkids. We should all be shitting in the streets.
[09:26:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Why Me Work - 06UK Government Digital Service Faces a Brain Drain - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:26:15] <exec> 08└─Or their bosses have ordered them to do appalling things...
[09:26:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03tfried [5534] (Score:2) 02Re:The perfect storm - 06Massive Atlantic Wave Sets Record Says World Meteorological Organization - 610 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:26:36] <exec> 08└─TFA is unclear on the terms. Quoting relevant bits from the original press release: A World Meteorological Organization expert committee has established a new world record significant wave height of 19 meters (62.3 feet) measured by a buoy in the North Atlantic. [...] Wave height is defined as the...
[09:31:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I can't believe I'm reading this - 06Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:31:01] <exec> 08└─There you go: https://mises.org [mises.org] It's better than anything the third rate hacks who call themselves economists.
[09:31:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:I can't believe I'm reading this - 06Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:31:05] <exec> 08└─Marx is not a Capitalist he did write his major work analyzing the topic; largely incompetently of course.
[09:32:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score:2) 02Re:Units.. - 06Multi-Material 3D Printer Squirts Out Homemade Electronic Circuits - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:32:56] <exec> 08└─Ahh. So it is 8^3in (8x8x8in cube)? Then the conversion makes sense, thanks.
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[10:25:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Diesel engines? - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:25:38] <exec> 08└─Isn't this the stuff that comes out of diesel engines?
[10:27:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Precedent set: Take No Prisoners - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 236 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:27:57] <exec> 08└─That's the precedent that is set. If a person attempts defend their home, make sure they are dead so they can't contest the "facts". Shoot them "accidentally", if you have to. There will be no consequences save maybe a stern talking-to.
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[11:25:55] <exec> 08└─No, the pollutants are oxides of nitrogen plural, NOx -- a mix of several gasses. Nitrous oxide is one specific molecule, N2O. Some drag racers and drifters are going to be missing their "spray" (short term power boost) until the suppliers are back online. From https://en.wikipedia.org
[11:25:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03damnbunni [704] (Score:2) 02I know how to make my own whipped cream. - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:25:57] <exec> 08└─I only do it for Irish coffee because for that I like it very barely whipped. For anything else? I prefer the stuff in the can. I think the vast majority of storebought whipped cream that gets used isn't used by someone who is Preparing Dessert For Themselves And Guests After A Meal. It's used by pe...
[11:25:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score:2) 02WTF? - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 523 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:25:59] <exec> 08└─I agree with the comment at the end of the summary. I know the importance of nitrous oxide for dental work and for recreational activities, but how does this affect whipped cream? Don't people have access to whisks, egg beaters, or electric mixers? Whipped cream really does take just a minute or two...
[11:26:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02This is no laughing matter! - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:26:01] <exec> 08└─Or is it?
[11:26:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:The perfect storm - 06Massive Atlantic Wave Sets Record Says World Meteorological Organization - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:26:54] <exec> 08└─http://swellbeat.com/mean-and-peak-wave-periods/ [swellbeat.com] That article helps to understand what they are talking about.
[11:27:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03sjames [2882] 02Re:Good. - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 711 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:27:46] <exec> 08└─No-knock warrants may be necessary to secure evidence, but the larger question is if that evidence is worth risking the life and limb of non-consenting innocents. How many drug busts make the brutal death of an innocent a good trade? I argue that it's simply not conscionable. Even beyond that, I dou...
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[12:25:42] <exec> 08└─Former NASA chief scientist on the same topic of backing up federal climate science data, http://www.bbc.com [bbc.com]
[12:25:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score:1) 02<sub> and <sup> work - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:25:51] <exec> 08└─While not documented in the 'Allowed HTML' subscripts and superscripts work. This means we can write the molecular formulas correctly. N2O ; O2 ; and N2 Or N2O → N2 + ½ O2
[12:25:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03BK [4868] 02This is no laughing matter! - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 9 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:25:55] <exec> 08└─Or is it?
[12:25:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Call Vin Diesel - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:25:57] <exec> 08└─He seens to have infinite supply of NOS. Also the RICErs Fag and Furious community should be mourning by now
[12:26:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score:2) 02Re:And Air! Food uses air! - 06Every Meal Eaten Estimated to Cost the Planet 10 Kilos of Lost Topsoil - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:26:17] <exec> 08└─“Furthermore, by transferring the bulk of food production to cities we can reverse the 6th Extinction by rewilding up to 24 million sq kms of the planet under the wise stewardship of farmers and indigenous peoples."
[12:26:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Hydroponics, Terra Preta, and Efficiency - 06Every Meal Eaten Estimated to Cost the Planet 10 Kilos of Lost Topsoil - 1644 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:26:19] <exec> 08└─I would also add hydroponics, which doesn't require soil, and produces quite well without fertilizer if you combine it with aquaculture, which can then supply fish to the diet. For traditional farming in dirt, there's terra preta [wikipedia.org], an incredibly fertile and self-reproducing black soil...
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[12:26:25] <exec> 08└─run-off is problem because we dont "get" rivers. there must be something wrong if not always the same amount of water flows, thinks the human. it must run straight and as quickly as posdible to the ocean. no bends and detours and OVERFLOWS allowed. no wonder evrrything gets deposited in the ocean. i...
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[12:26:28] <exec> 08└─Every time you put food in the trash bin.
[12:31:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:I can't believe I'm reading this - 06Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:31:34] <exec> 08└─But I note you aren't making a point about how proud you are to be posting from Cuba.
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[13:26:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02the end of life as we know it? - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 1321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:00] <exec> 08└─Donald's got a quick hand He'll look around the room He won't tell you his plan He's got a rolled cigarette Hanging out his mouth He's a cowboy kid Yeah he found a six-shooter gun In his dad's closet, in the box of fun things I don't even know what But he's coming for you, yeah he'scoming for you [C...
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[13:26:02] <exec> 08└─anti-intellectuals? ie, they are the science deniers, they are firmly in bed with Big Religion(tm) which is no friend to logical thought and reasoning. this isn't really about trump, its about the party of denial. every time they take massive power, we end up with more 'god' stuff shoved down our th...
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[13:26:04] <exec> 08└─EPA was founded by republicans. Gee, don't you look a right fuckwit now.
[13:26:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Diesel engines? - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:26:15] <exec> 08└─Nitrous oxide is one specific molecule, N2O
[13:26:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:And Air! Food uses air! - 06Every Meal Eaten Estimated to Cost the Planet 10 Kilos of Lost Topsoil - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:26:40] <exec> 08└─The point is that modern agriculture is consuming it faster than natural processes can replenish it.
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[13:28:12] <exec> 08└─Of course, it's a precedent even if it's not a proper judicial one. Everyone involved in a no knock raid and its aftermath, police, suspects, and prosecutors now has to consider that the defendant can potentially use self defense successfully.
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[13:31:10] <exec> 08└─Ethically guiding the form of that solution is the collective responsibility of the society implementing it.
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[14:25:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Artist's sketch? - 06The Trouble With Facial Recognition Technology (in the Real World) - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:25:47] <exec> 08└─These movie scenes often involve an artist's sketch
[14:25:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:Artist's sketch? - 06The Trouble With Facial Recognition Technology (in the Real World) - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:25:48] <exec> 08└─Mugshots will be three dimensional in the future. These cameras will improve, and be placed at high-volume areas like subway stations, and private walking will become as anonymous as driving a licensed vehicle. RIP Liberty.
[14:25:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score:2) 02False positives - 06The Trouble With Facial Recognition Technology (in the Real World) - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:25:50] <exec> 08└─When used in limited fashion, imperfect sensitivity/specificity can be acceptable or worked around. But if you want to roll that out to the general population, better make sure you don't cry wolf very much. Like the legal system is - supposedly - designed, better the guilty go free than to malign th...
[14:25:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Disagree - 06The Trouble With Facial Recognition Technology (in the Real World) - 1539 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:25:52] <exec> 08└─I agree that millions of cameras would be useful. Given that the UK has ~5 million security cameras, that target seems like a very easy one to achieve. The article seems to overlook that you don't need to be highly accurate with each particular face analysed in order to draw a correct conclusion, as...
[14:25:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Excellent test - 06The Trouble With Facial Recognition Technology (in the Real World) - 1018 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:25:55] <exec> 08└─For those who don't read TFA: They tested the accuracy of facial recognition software by gathering a database of one million facial pictures, from nearly 700,000 different people. The best software was 75% accurate. To be clear: an accuracy rate of 75% is useless in the real world. You aren't going...
[14:26:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:why are the republicans the party of the - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:26:06] <exec> 08└─why are the republicans the party of the anti-intellectuals? ie, they are the science deniers, they are firmly in bed with Big Religion(tm) which is no friend to logical thought and reasoning.
[14:26:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Darkage 2.0 - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:26:08] <exec> 08└─Environmentalists, climate scientists and academics are collaborating to protect what they view as fragile digital federal records and research.
[14:26:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:Darkage 2.0 - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 654 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:26:10] <exec> 08└─people truly hated rumsfeld. people now, also, truly hate pence. trump, I can deal with. a bozo who has no motivations other than to line his pockets. we've seen that and it does not destroy things, per se. god botherers, though, IN THE WHITE HOUSE, that's entirely something to be afraid of. when a...
[14:26:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Diesel engines? - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:26:21] <exec> 08└─... Do you even chemistry, bro?
[14:26:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score:1) 02Re:Nitrous Oxide - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 694 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:26:22] <exec> 08└─Formally, excluding spelling mistakes, you are correct. The IUPAC name for N2O is dinitrogen monoxide. However, just like we do not use Latin classifications all the time for common animals - we say cow, rather than Bos taurus taurus - certain chemicals have a commonly used name in addition to their...
[14:26:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:WTF? - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:26:27] <exec> 08└─Whipped cream really does take just a minute or two
[14:26:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WTF? - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:26:29] <exec> 08└─A minute or two, and a pile of dirty utensils that someone still has to wash, versus a second or two and no additional cleanup required is a big deal.
[14:26:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02Re:WTF? - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:26:31] <exec> 08└─Apparently a bowl and a whisk is a pile... Not to mention that it's just cream and it rinses right off. With a blender it only takes seconds.
[14:26:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score:2) 02well-done-my-good-editor - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:26:35] <exec> 08└─from the no-laughing-matter dept.
[14:27:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:Panic! - 06Every Meal Eaten Estimated to Cost the Planet 10 Kilos of Lost Topsoil - 1523 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:27:01] <exec> 08└─I agree that panicking on this is bad, and that the media dramatizes things all the time. But that does not make genuine problems any less genuine. What are the facts? We have to know the facts, or we can't tell whether warnings are just hysteria, or something more. Climate alarmism, you say? What's...
[14:27:03] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03canopic jug [3949] 02Only 60 Years Left If Soil Degradation Continues - 06Every Meal Eaten Estimated to Cost the Planet 10 Kilos of Lost Topsoil - 1218 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:03] <exec> 08└─According to UN figures, there are only 60 years of farming left if soil degradation continues [scientificamerican.com]. It takes hundreds if not thousands of years to build up topsoil. Far north, even a millimeter takes many centuries. Further south, it's still not fast, especially in comparison to...
[14:27:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Important questions - 06Every Meal Eaten Estimated to Cost the Planet 10 Kilos of Lost Topsoil - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:09] <exec> 08└─How much fossil fuel was burned for the energy required to research and publish this drivel? Was the research staff fully gender, lgbt, and ethnically inclusive? Were anyone's microaggressions triggered? How many puppies were tortured and killed? Ye gods...
[14:27:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why Me Work - 06UK Government Digital Service Faces a Brain Drain - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:27:20] <exec> 08└─Maybe they're particularly fed up with the whole Snooping Charter thing and want nothing to do with it.
[14:28:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:That's not how precedent works. - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:28:44] <exec> 08└─This isn't "Miranda v. Arizona," where suddenly the way in which police conduct themselves is required to change.
[14:28:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Fantastic news. - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:28:49] <exec> 08└─And two years in jail.
[14:29:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Unfortunate - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:29:09] <exec> 08└─is to disallow prosecutors from knowing if the alleged attacker or victim is a cop prior to them deciding to press charges or not
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[15:25:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What does it mean for water to be “old”? - 06World’s Oldest Water Gets Even Older - 689 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:57] <exec> 08└─I can’t find a clear answer for what they mean by this FTFA, but a different article on the same topic seems to explain things a bit more: http://www.cbc.ca [www.cbc.ca] It seems that it isn’t so much referring to the age of the water bu...
[15:26:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snospar [5366] (Score:2) 02Re:Disagree - 06The Trouble With Facial Recognition Technology (in the Real World) - 547 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:26:10] <exec> 08└─Totally agree with these comments and would add that when you factor in the forced 10-year photo renewal on all UK Driving Licences and Passports with very strict rules about how visible (and recognisable) the face is, I think they could successfully spot most people almost everywhere. Cameras on al...
[15:26:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Witless suspension of disbelief - 06The Trouble With Facial Recognition Technology (in the Real World) - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:26:12] <exec> 08└─and with the clock ticking, a match is usually found for the culprit in the nick of time.
[15:26:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Selfies - 06The Trouble With Facial Recognition Technology (in the Real World) - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:26:14] <exec> 08└─We might think that our faces are constantly being tracked and recognised as we walk past security cameras in city centres – but this is not actually the case.
[15:26:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the end of life as we know it? - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 1786 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:26:25] <exec> 08└─Naw, the end of life in song lyrics ended during the Nixon administration, maybe you (1956) were too young to hear Gimme Shelter when it came out in 1969? Recently read the back story on the backup singer Merry Clayton who sang the Rape, Murder chorus (check her on YouTube) Come on Oh, a storm is th...
[15:26:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:why are the republicans the party of the - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:26:29] <exec> 08└─And the religious loonies used to be part of the Democrat party. What was your point?
[15:26:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02My crazy & depressing idea - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 3942 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:26:33] <exec> 08└─I have a suspicion, but it's not more than that: intellectual wankery, if you will. I always thought that the Republicans were the "Party of Power" in the U.S.A. (more so than their very close neighbour party the Democrats). I mean, the party of the status quo: conservatives, the country and world i...
[15:26:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Beanlover [6411] (Score:2, Insightful) 02It's amazing to me... - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 1412 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:26:37] <exec> 08└─...that people think the President has such broad, sweeping power that (s)he can just unilaterally make a motion and do things like make EPA data disappear. Do people not realize how "real" life works? I know the power of the President has experienced "scope-creep" in recent decades with "Executive...
[15:26:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's amazing to me... - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:26:39] <exec> 08└─Forget executive orders and simply look at the man who has been chosen to lead the EPA, as well as the Congress likely to approve him. A Trump Presidency is a case study in risk. If you don't prepare now, you risk getting burnt alive.
[15:26:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:WTF? - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 999 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:26:58] <exec> 08└─It's not just the minute or two that it takes to do the whipping. It's having the whip and the bowl in the first place, it's cleaning the preparation dishes after preparation is done. With N2O propellant in a can, you save all those steps, all that labor and support equipment, and you can just take...
[15:26:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02Re:WTF? - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:26:59] <exec> 08└─I would suspect the majority of whipped cream usage is in restaurants, where yes, whipping cream by hand is too much. When you order a milk shake at Mc Donnalds they spray whipped cream on top, and coffee shops also are major users.
[15:27:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03tisI [5866] (Score:2) 02Re:WTF? - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:27:01] <exec> 08└─Perhaps the fact our govt assumes the people are mostly fat lazy and stupid, which would explain the urgency of "NO WHIPPED CREAM FOR THE HOLIDAYS" alert.
[15:27:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain_nifty [4252] (Score:2) 02What's the Opposite of Efficiency? - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 1177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:27:07] <exec> 08└─What's the Opposite of Efficiency? It's redundancy, and in our economies push for infinite growth and maximizing quarterly profits everything must get more and more efficient, losing any redundancy or backups for predictable or unexpected failures. This isn't the first shortage we've seen, expect to...
[15:27:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:And Air! Food uses air! - 06Every Meal Eaten Estimated to Cost the Planet 10 Kilos of Lost Topsoil - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:27:28] <exec> 08└─Yeah, that's why when whitey showed up in the New World the whole place was just trashed.
[15:27:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03DBCubix [553] (Score:1) 02Lets look at water consumption - 06Every Meal Eaten Estimated to Cost the Planet 10 Kilos of Lost Topsoil - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:27:42] <exec> 08└─According to this scientist, 800L of water are consumed with every meal. Computing 3 meals a day, for a year, for 7billion people (assumptions made) results in 4.29x10^16L of water consumed. Just for the sake of comparison, if we took the top 1m of ocean water off [quora.com], it is 3.6x10^17L. So r...
[15:28:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Not all bad - 06Australian Judge Orders ISPs to Block Pirate Sites - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:28:34] <exec> 08└─may apply on 3 days’ written notice
[15:28:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02As if there is noway out - 06Australian Judge Orders ISPs to Block Pirate Sites - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:28:38] <exec> 08└─As far as i think people are much aware of VPN. And it is highly probable that they will use it to fuller extent. Like the blog i came across: http://bit.ly [bit.ly] gives a straight forward way out of using a vpn to access pirate bay. Only thing i can say is that people would not stop torre...
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[16:25:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Introduction: transhumanist edition - 06A Basic Introduction To Neural Networks - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:52] <exec> 08└─1. A neural net is an algorithm/system design that allows inputs to be associated with outputs through unknown hidden relationships, often surprisingly good at pattern matching tasks 2. Add more hardware. 3. ?????? 4. All religions now true because you invented god.
[16:26:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Not saying much - 06World’s Oldest Water Gets Even Older - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:26:01] <exec> 08└─The world’s oldest water, which is locked deep within the Earth’s crust, just got even older.
[16:26:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:2) 02AKA The Nestle World Heritage Spring - 06World’s Oldest Water Gets Even Older - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:26:03] <exec> 08└─Nestle starts pumping tomorrow, and the Canadian public will reap the economic benefits from this natural resource when we collect our sweet, sweet $.02/MegaLiter royalty.
[16:26:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03FatPhil [863] 02Disagree - 06The Trouble With Facial Recognition Technology (in the Real World) - 1539 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:26:14] <exec> 08└─I agree that millions of cameras would be useful. Given that the UK has ~5 million security cameras, that target seems like a very easy one to achieve. The article seems to overlook that you don't need to be highly accurate with each particular face analysed in order to draw a correct conclusion, as...
[16:26:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Dangerous assumption: - 06The Trouble With Facial Recognition Technology (in the Real World) - 1291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:26:18] <exec> 08└─It only needs one or two breakthroughs to go from 75 percent to 90+ percent positive rate. I imagine all those 'neural networks' and similiar science fields are working furiously to solve exactly this problem, along with dozens of others. And related to that: There were 50 megapixel CCDs a number of...
[16:26:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03pe1rxq [844] (Score:2) 02Re:Excellent test - 06The Trouble With Facial Recognition Technology (in the Real World) - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:26:20] <exec> 08└─The trick is not to compare against millions each time. When you see someone on a camera you only have to be able to compare to the cameras next to it. This way you can track people with a much higher probability and together with other clues (like the cell tower a phone is connected to) you can get...
[16:26:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score:2) 02Re:Selfies - 06The Trouble With Facial Recognition Technology (in the Real World) - 1102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:26:24] <exec> 08└─> That photo ID database is called Facebook. Nope, not this side of the pond anyway. UK (in fact possibly all EU) passports and driving licences already require digital photos suitable for extracting biometrics - and the database of images is shared (last time I renewed driving license I was able to...
[16:26:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03dondusa [6432] (Score:1) 02Database integration - 06The Trouble With Facial Recognition Technology (in the Real World) - 711 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:26:26] <exec> 08└─Well, considering that the FBI has a facial database going already*, millions of faces strong, how unreasonable is it for datasets like this to be shared with other law enforcement agencies? Particularly as surveillance and data-gathering powers continue to expand. Centralized surveillance networks...
[16:26:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03tisI [5866] (Score:2) 02Re:why are the republicans the party of the - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:26:43] <exec> 08└─They've been this way a very long time. Stupid is hard to fix.
[16:27:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03sgleysti [56] (Score:2) 02Re:WTF? - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:27:06] <exec> 08└─Congratulations JoeMerchant, You gave me comment whiplash at this phrase Seriously, though, shaker can whipped cream is pretty much a poster child for the disposable society
[16:27:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Panic! - 06Every Meal Eaten Estimated to Cost the Planet 10 Kilos of Lost Topsoil - 826 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:27:41] <exec> 08└─I haven't read the entire book, but from the page previews I feel like I did read it once back when it was called Entropy: A New World View [wikipedia.org]. I feel like this one is just as cringeworthy. Yes, you have nasty sounding chapter names, cutesy epigraphs taken from CCR songs, and a whole lo...
[16:27:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:Important questions - 06Every Meal Eaten Estimated to Cost the Planet 10 Kilos of Lost Topsoil - 992 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:27:49] <exec> 08└─Hmm, LGBT I'm not sure. I clicked on the author's name over at SpringerLink to see xyr other papers, and I discovered xe's a clown. So, while xyr name isn't Mohammed, at least they (crap, gotta look this one up, let's see, no motion, present tense, subject, ah! wait, now John Cleese is asking me how...
[16:27:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03DutchUncle [5370] (Score:2) 02We need a Green Revolution and engineered food ... - 06Every Meal Eaten Estimated to Cost the Planet 10 Kilos of Lost Topsoil - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:53] <exec> 08└─Oh, wait, we already had (and have) that, and we avoid engineered food because we don't trust it. Also that "consumes 800 l of water" sounds ridiculous; the water passes through all sorts of steps along the way, and is probably RE-used by the time a single growing season is done.
[16:29:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good. - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:29:17] <exec> 08└─The question is whether the cops' first priority is resolving the situation safety for the public, or staying alive themselves.
[16:29:35] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bob_super [1357] 02The problem can be solved. - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 811 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:29:35] <exec> 08└─Does executing your no-knock drug raid, complete with guns drawn, pet-shooting, ransacking, traumatizing, and baby-maiming stun grenades, put you at an unfair and unreasonable risk of not only being shot, but also losing the lawsuit against the owner? Fear not, dear "bravest", there is hope for you!...
[16:29:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Gone Waco - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:29:40] <exec> 08└─agents of the US federal government attacked a church community, accused the leader of heinous crimes, then killed everyone including the accused so there needn't be a trial where messy things like evidence and lack thereof would be brought up.
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[17:25:55] <exec> 08└─4. All religions now true because you invented god.
[17:25:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Introduction: transhumanist edition - 06A Basic Introduction To Neural Networks - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:25:57] <exec> 08└─4. All religions now true because you invented god.
[17:25:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Uncle_Al [1108] (Score:3, Funny) 02Step 4 is always "PROFIT!" - 06A Basic Introduction To Neural Networks - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:25:59] <exec> 08└─Step 4: PROPHET!
[17:26:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:What does it mean for water to be “old”? - 06World’s Oldest Water Gets Even Older - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:26:08] <exec> 08└─Obviously. Idiot. Ass.
[17:26:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Not saying much - 06World’s Oldest Water Gets Even Older - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:26:12] <exec> 08└─"For example this joke is currently getting older at a rate of one second per second. " Alas that it isn't getting funnier at that rate. ;)
[17:26:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:Not saying much - 06World’s Oldest Water Gets Even Older - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:26:14] <exec> 08└─Pfft! That's nothing. I heard this water is getting older at a rate of 86,400 seconds *per day*!
[17:26:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not saying much - 06World’s Oldest Water Gets Even Older - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:26:16] <exec> 08└─If you kicked that joke, let's say 9.8 meters then it's aging would equal acceleration due to gravity on earth's surface.
[17:26:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:AKA The Nestle World Heritage Spring - 06World’s Oldest Water Gets Even Older - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:26:19] <exec> 08└─In order to preserve and ration a resource, its value to the world must be determined; that's the whole point of an economy: To figure out the best way for society to appropriate resources; under a Free Market, the solution is brought into existence under evolution, without requiring an Intelligent...
[17:26:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:False positives - 06The Trouble With Facial Recognition Technology (in the Real World) - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:26:29] <exec> 08└─And yet a man was arrested based solely on a false facial recognition match, then released, then arrested again and beaten within an inch of his life despite not resisting based on another false facial recognition match.
[17:26:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Disagree - 06The Trouble With Facial Recognition Technology (in the Real World) - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:26:33] <exec> 08└─We're not just living in the world of *collection* of big data, we're living in a world of the *cross-referencing* of big data too
[17:26:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:why are the republicans the party of the - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:26:54] <exec> 08└─You convinced me with your persuasive argument of "the other guys do/did it as well". Good job not answering the question, idiot [wikipedia.org].
[17:26:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:why are the republicans the party of the - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:26:56] <exec> 08└─Are you forgetting the black church that is still a large component of the Democratic party? Why are liberals so ignorant of history?
[17:27:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:why are the republicans the party of the - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:27:02] <exec> 08└─I thought that religious people looked after the environment because God have Man stewardship of the earth and all the living things on it. If God gives you something to look after, you better do your best to look after it!
[17:27:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:why are the republicans the party of the - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:27:04] <exec> 08└─Why is the DNC the party of bashing everyone else? Answer that question and you have your answer.
[17:27:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Darkage 2.0 - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:27:08] <exec> 08└─"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." [wikiquote.org], Sinclair Lewis
[17:27:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03quacking duck [1395] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Darkage 2.0 - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 1212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:27:10] <exec> 08└─There's scaremongering, and then there's burying your head in the sand by not at least taking precautions. We already have a template for what happens when an ideologue takes power: Stephen Harper's conservatives in Canada sought to destroy the scientific works that departments had spent decades bui...
[17:27:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:It's amazing to me... - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:27:14] <exec> 08└─Do people not realize how "real" life works?
[17:27:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:WTF? - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 617 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:27:35] <exec> 08└─I think all these type of products boil down to "making people feel like they have servants when they really don't." You want whipped cream, here you can have it without all the work, sure it sucks compared to something that could be produced by hand labor, but, you can't afford other people's hand...
[17:27:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03sgleysti [56] (Score:2) 02Re:WTF? - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 1270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:27:36] <exec> 08└─That's interesting and makes a lot of sense. Personally, I find these kind of tasks enjoyable. I recently bought a hand cranked coffee grinder and find that it's quite fun to use. It has a gearbox, so it isn't tedious. I love baking bread by hand, and if I had more extra money/space, I would probabl...
[17:27:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:What's the Opposite of Efficiency? - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:27:44] <exec> 08└─explosion at the Florida plant resulted in a total loss
[17:27:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What's the Opposite of Efficiency? - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 1440 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:27:46] <exec> 08└─Right. But I think it's even more fundamental than maximizing short-term profit. If the goal of a company is to maximize profit, even long-term, then the goal is to extract as much value from the economy as possible with as few input resources as possible. It would be so much better if the goal was...
[17:27:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02Whippettes? - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:27:49] <exec> 08└─I can't believe that the stoners huffing it haven't noticed it being gone from their favorite head shop.
[17:27:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Whippettes? - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:27:51] <exec> 08└─That's because we buy in bulk. I still have several hundred N2O chargers on hand, so I'll weather this shortage nicely.
[17:27:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03driven [6295] (Score:2) 02Curiosity rover - 06A Promising Spot for Life On Mars - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:00] <exec> 08└─The picture of Curiosity in the article is pretty cool - this is clearly a machine that has clocked a lot of hours by now. No more shiny, lab-clean "hello Mars, I'm here!" look as when it first arrived on the planet. Now it resembles a well worn droid or ship in the Star Wars universe that gets shit...
[17:28:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And Air! Food uses air! - 06Every Meal Eaten Estimated to Cost the Planet 10 Kilos of Lost Topsoil - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:28:18] <exec> 08└─Rather depressing that someone who by their own admission doesn’t even bother to RTFA winds up getting a +4 insightful. You know absolutely nothing about topsoil and its rate of recovery, and you didn’t even read what the author of the study actually said.
[17:30:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:That's not how precedent works. - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:30:10] <exec> 08└─I bet a lot of departments will incorporate this somehow into their training. This might even be the start of the end of most no knock raids, though I'm not holding my breath.
[17:30:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Gone Waco - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:30:24] <exec> 08└─According to Wikipedia there's still argument as to how the fire started.
[17:30:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Unfortunate - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:30:35] <exec> 08└─Wouldn't it be better to just isolate the area, cut off supplies, and wait for the guy to expose himself? I'd assume that someone like that would be more able to defend against an assault than effectively attack a distant police perimeter.
[17:30:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Unfortunate - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:30:37] <exec> 08└─Your idea makes sense, if he is located at a Ruby Ridge. Downtown Philadelphia, it may not make much sense. There is a distinction between "police FORCE is seldom justified" and "police FORCE is never justified". It takes some very warped reasoning to justify the number of assaults taking place in A...
[17:33:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:I can't believe I'm reading this - 06Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - 986 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:33:33] <exec> 08└─"When the tax brackets on the rich were way higher we magically didn't have these problems" Yes, we did have those problems. Some of those problems were just swept under the rug - that is, without huge government agencies to keep tabs on everything, hungry children weren't seen. Some of those proble...
[17:33:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:I can't believe I'm reading this - 06Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:33:40] <exec> 08└─That is the corruption that people are bitching about. In effect, Ireland tells corporations, "If you want to cheat on your taxes legally, pay us a pittance, and we'll give you a semi-legal loophole to jump through." The world is beginning to close some of those loopholes. The EU, and the US are lea...
[17:33:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:I can't believe I'm reading this - 06Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:33:52] <exec> 08└─We seem to be running out of Scotsmen.
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[18:26:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02No excuse - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:26:00] <exec> 08└─At this point in time, there is no excuse whatsoever for having any data in an unencrypted form. Any data, whether at rest or in transit, should be encrypted. There is no excuse for not doing this, CPU's are powerful enough to do this in all devices. My microwave has more computing power than a dumb...
[18:26:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sourcery42 [6400] (Score:1) 02security - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:26:02] <exec> 08└─Sounds like a good idea, don't get me wrong, but the cynic in me immediately thought that if bad actors really want a look at what is on those cameras encryption will lead to an unfortunate mashup of fingernails and pliers. Or perhaps a $5 wrench https://xkcd.com [xkcd.com]
[18:26:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02How would this work? - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 663 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:26:04] <exec> 08└─Ok, I'm missing something here. Cameras don't generally have a keyboard, and I don't see photo-journalists typing in long passwords on a tiny touch screen every time they want to use their camera. Yet without access control, encryption isn't particularly useful. It isn't magic pixie dust. A worried...
[18:26:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:How would this work? - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:26:06] <exec> 08└─You push your public key to the camera. All pictures saved on the camera are encrypted with that key. You need the private key (stored elsewhere, like on your home laptop) plus a password to unencrypt the pictures. Most cameras don't even have secure erase, and you want the pictures encrypted the in...
[18:26:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:How would this work? - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 462 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:26:08] <exec> 08└─Seems like the easiest option would be to bake that to an sd card that just does that to every file saved on it with a name matching a regex. Media is much cheaper than a camera, so if the crypto becomes effectively useless in the future, you can just swap out the card for a better one, rather than...
[18:26:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Re:How would this work? - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 717 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:26:10] <exec> 08└─You push your public key to the camera. All pictures saved on the camera are encrypted with that key. You need the private key (stored elsewhere, like on your home laptop) plus a password to unencrypt the pictures. I don't buy it. Photographers need to see the pics they take. If the pics are no good...
[18:26:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:How would this work? - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:26:12] <exec> 08└─As with so many things, you choose convenience or security.
[18:26:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How would this work? - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:26:15] <exec> 08└─Wouldn't that make it impossible to view the photos on the camera to see what you just took?
[18:26:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03goodie [1877] (Score:2) 02For those interested... - 06A Basic Introduction To Neural Networks - 521 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:26:25] <exec> 08└─Andrew Ng's Machine Learning course on Coursera (free) has a class on ANN and an assignment on it. It's not exactly trivial to do the assignment in my experience (not much of a fan of Octave anyway) but the concepts are well explained and there are a few examples of applications of this (self-drivin...
[18:26:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Re:Not saying much - 06World’s Oldest Water Gets Even Older - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:26:39] <exec> 08└─"One time, this guy handed me a picture of him, he said 'Here's a picture of me when I was younger.' EVERY picture is of you when you were younger." --Mitch Hedberg
[18:26:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:AKA The Nestle World Heritage Spring - 06World’s Oldest Water Gets Even Older - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:26:42] <exec> 08└─Price =/= value. I bet you'd tear down the coliseum to build a shopping mall if the price was right.
[18:27:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02gospel - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 958 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:27:19] <exec> 08└─> Are you forgetting the black church that is still a large component of the Democratic party? I know its fashionable among ignorant geeks to make everything black and white. But not all churches are equal. The typical republican version of christianity is prosperity gospel. [wikipedia.org] The demo...
[18:27:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:why are the republicans the party of the - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:27:21] <exec> 08└─He looks more like a left fuckwit, you right fuckwit!
[18:27:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:why are the republicans the party of the - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 1118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:27:28] <exec> 08└─That's right: it's expressed in detail here: http://w2.vatican.va [vatican.va] Chapter III. THE HUMAN ROOTS OF THE ECOLOGICAL CRISIS III. THE CRISIS AND EFFECTS OF MODERN ANTHROPOCENTRISM 116. Modernity has...
[18:27:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Darkage 2.0 - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 630 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:27:35] <exec> 08└─Generally, I find myself getting more stupid by visiting here. Criticism and debate, what little of it there was, has been replaced by grandstanding and specious claims with little to no supporting evidence or reasoning. In many respects, it reflects the media at large. Congratulations, SN has joine...
[18:28:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Whippettes? - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:28:11] <exec> 08└─Lightweights use whippets, when we had a party we had a ~5 foot (1.5m) tall cylinder. Crack the valve and fill garbage bags, everyone has their own personal source. An enterprising friend made letterhead for [cityname] Laser Company which was good enough to purchase directly from a compressed gas su...
[18:28:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Endorheic sea? - 06A Promising Spot for Life On Mars - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:28:20] <exec> 08└─Gale Crater is the lowest point within thousands of kilometers in all directions and scientists believe water once pooled there into a lake and also seeped underground.
[18:28:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ok - 06Every Meal Eaten Estimated to Cost the Planet 10 Kilos of Lost Topsoil - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:28:41] <exec> 08└─Tiny Netherlands is the world's second largest exporter of agricultural products and food.
[18:28:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score:2) 02Eat Meat - 06Every Meal Eaten Estimated to Cost the Planet 10 Kilos of Lost Topsoil - 950 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:28:55] <exec> 08└─Grass grows the top soil. Not only is their no way to sustainably practice agriculture long term, the best you can do is slow down soil erosion, but most of the planet is not and never will be suited to it. 60% of the land area, at least, should/must be plains of grass grazed by large herbivores (ei...
[18:31:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Unfortunate - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 501 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:31:00] <exec> 08└─I'll agree that in a few extremely rare (and very contrived) examples, a no-knock raid is justified: e.g., a guy has a big bomb in his house. But you're really talking about something that might happen once every few years if that. The other thing I can think of is an armed suspect who has hostages....
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[19:25:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcross [4009] (Score:2) 02Re:security - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 395 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:25:57] <exec> 08└─Right on! I'm in the middle of reading "The Strategy of Conflict" and it seems to apply to so many situations. This is a perfect example of commitment as a negotiation strategy. If the journalist can convince their captors the photos can't be decrypted, the rubber hose treatment becomes an ineffecti...
[19:25:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score:2) 02Re:security - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:25:58] <exec> 08└─Then they will just be imprisoned for not decrypting their device, as is now allowed in the UK. 3 years for not decrypting files you own, whether you can remember the password or not, and regardless of whether you are innocent of all other charges.
[19:26:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:How would this work? - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 763 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:26:05] <exec> 08└─So, you don't encrypt the picture before the viewing buffer, but you encrypt it when you write it to the card. You may just keep the last one unencrytped for review, leaving the phtotographer the choice of turning off the camera or taking a random pic just before handing the camera in, to clear it....
[19:26:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:How would this work? - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 1161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:26:08] <exec> 08└─As an amateur (read: clown who bought a mid-range DSLR) photographer, I sometimes read articles from actual photographers offering tips. Most of them say to not spend too much time looking at the pictures on the screen, and to spend more time taking more pictures, from different angles and lighting,...
[19:26:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:How would this work? - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:26:10] <exec> 08└─I don't buy it. Photographers need to see the pics they take. If the pics are no good, they have to take more.
[19:26:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How would this work? - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:26:13] <exec> 08└─In this case there would probably be a button to encrypt the latest set of photos, they would be clear data until the encryption is run. It could also run the encryption before fully powering. That would solve the usability problems.
[19:26:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Will government have backdoor - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:15] <exec> 08└─To this encryption as well? We will never know. The only thing worse than vulnerability is false sense of security.
[19:26:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Bad Idea For Most Other Working Professionals - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 722 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:17] <exec> 08└─As a pro cinematographer/photographer, I want as much bit-depth and resolution as possible -- i.e. more bandwidth. Right now, the technology for uncompressed, 4k, raw/12-bit/10-bit video is expensive and bulky, but we are approaching such capability in smaller, less expensive cameras that use increa...
[19:26:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Bad Idea For Most Other Working Professionals - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:26:19] <exec> 08└─Encryption isn't lossy though, or I misunderstand.
[19:26:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bad Idea For Most Other Working Professionals - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:26:22] <exec> 08└─The encryption would have to occur after the photo is taken and reviewed, anything else would be difficult for the user. It would also be an optional feature you could turn on/off (though if you have a chunk of photos encrypted and a bunch not encrypted, well that would look suspicious!
[19:26:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:AKA The Nestle World Heritage Spring - 06World’s Oldest Water Gets Even Older - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:26:49] <exec> 08└─A mall in place of the Coliseum? I wouldn't. Banks and McDonalds have better return per square metre. The rest can be luxury condos.
[19:27:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:False positives - 06The Trouble With Facial Recognition Technology (in the Real World) - 1459 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:27:01] <exec> 08└─It may be far from the bar, but what makes you think fingerprints are any more reliable? Accurate finger prints, fully encoded, probably would be, but that's not what gets used. Similarly, this technology doesn't need to be accurate to serve police purposes, it merely needs to be believed. Much of t...
[19:27:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Witless suspension of disbelief - 06The Trouble With Facial Recognition Technology (in the Real World) - 556 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:27:10] <exec> 08└─You're comparing apples and oranges. When you think about things with reason you don't use the same mental circuits that you use when making snap decisions, or even slow decisions just based on "gut feelings". That second system doesn't use logic, but rather pattern matching, and it includes the dat...
[19:27:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:gospel - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:27:30] <exec> 08└─It's even more fashionable for people who apparently have never set foot in the South, much less is a church, to lecture people living there about what is happening [youtube.com]. I live in an area where nearly all the food banks, charities, and social programs are faith based. There's more churches...
[19:27:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:gospel - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 767 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:27:32] <exec> 08└─I live in Tennessee. In fact, I live just down the road from the "most bible-minded" town in the country. And what I see are tons of churches that absolutely love to pat themselves on the back for helping out poor white folks with the minimal essentials to survive - soup kitchens and shelter (but on...
[19:27:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:why are the republicans the party of the - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:27:37] <exec> 08└─Its called propaganda promoting race/class/religious divides so that we don't pay attention to the important things being quietly pushed through. Even so I would take crazy liberal bullshit over crazy religious bullshit any day. At least those liberals care about the Earth.
[19:27:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Money is not Trump's Motivation - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 1926 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:27:47] <exec> 08└─> trump, I can deal with. a bozo who has no motivations other than to line his pockets. we've seen that and it does not destroy things, per se. Money is not Trump's primary motivation. The presidency was not about making him rich. It was about making him loved and respected. His father was distant a...
[19:27:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Money is not Trump's Motivation - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:27:49] <exec> 08└─Psycho-babble all you want, but the bottom line is that people have been voting against the status-quo all over the world. Change is in the air, and we would do better to help shape the change than engage in character assassination.
[19:27:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03quacking duck [1395] 02Re:Darkage 2.0 - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 1212 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:27:51] <exec> 08└─There's scaremongering, and then there's burying your head in the sand by not at least taking precautions. We already have a template for what happens when an ideologue takes power: Stephen Harper's conservatives in Canada sought to destroy the scientific works that departments had spent decades bui...
[19:27:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's amazing to me... - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 1105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:27:56] <exec> 08└─> Forget executive orders and simply look at the man who has been chosen to lead the EPA, as well as the Congress likely to approve him. Or his appointment to lead the Dept of Energy - Rick Perry - who famously wanted to eliminate the entire agency in 2011 [latimes.com] but was such a bumblefuck he...
[19:27:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's amazing to me... - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:27:59] <exec> 08└─For those who missed the reference: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[19:28:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:WTF? - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:28:17] <exec> 08└─You forgot cruelty free organic
[19:28:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:WTF? - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 760 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:28:20] <exec> 08└─IF I have cream in the fridge, THEN the amount will be wrong. Either too little of it to make enough whipped cream, or too much, but no so much that I'd leave it unwhipped, might as well finish it, oh well crap, now I have too much whipped cream and it's too late to let the consumers get truly wired...
[19:28:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score:2) 02Re:WTF? - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 737 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:28:29] <exec> 08└─All the RediWhip canned stuff you get in the store plus the dispensers you see in coffee shops and restaurants all use NO for pressure. Since it doesn't affect the flavor it is ideal. The reason they can't switch over to CO2 or other inert gases is because most will affect the taste. Other tasteless...
[19:28:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03darnkitten [1912] (Score:2) 02Never thought of that... - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:28:40] <exec> 08└─I wonder if this is why for the past couple of months I have been able to taste the propellant in the canned stuff available locally? It's strong enough to taint the taste of pie or ice cream.
[19:29:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:Only 60 Years Left If Soil Degradation Continue - 06Every Meal Eaten Estimated to Cost the Planet 10 Kilos of Lost Topsoil - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:29:17] <exec> 08└─That's a good point. It seems like in Britain, every year there is news about droughts in summer and floods in winter. You'd think they'd adapt by now. The Dutch "get" rivers and water management. Trust me on this. [wikipedia.org]
[19:29:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03dboz87 [1285] (Score:1) 02Breaking News! - 06Every Meal Eaten Estimated to Cost the Planet 10 Kilos of Lost Topsoil - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:25] <exec> 08└─Newsflash: Every Article Written Estimated to Overstate the Findings in the Most Sensationalist Manner!
[19:29:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02disasterous! - 06UK Government Digital Service Faces a Brain Drain - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:42] <exec> 08└─government leeches left to find honest work. no longer stealing for a living...what will we do?
[19:30:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't forget the trough.... - 06Massive Atlantic Wave Sets Record Says World Meteorological Organization - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:30:00] <exec> 08└─That's a whole lot of energy to be harvested using a floating platform moving up and down a fixed one.
[19:30:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't forget the trough.... - 06Massive Atlantic Wave Sets Record Says World Meteorological Organization - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:30:01] <exec> 08└─Sure is, and they're trying, but the only structures that can even hope to hold steady in those kind of conditions are, ironically, oil drilling platforms, which are quite expensive - ROI would take a long time, and big wave energy is even less reliable than wind.
[19:30:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't forget the trough.... - 06Massive Atlantic Wave Sets Record Says World Meteorological Organization - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:30:03] <exec> 08└─Technically, it doesn't need to hold steady. Anchoring to the bottom and being twice as tall as the tallest wave (keep COG under water) is all you need.
[19:31:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03tfried [5534] (Score:2) 02Re:Good. - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 691 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:31:05] <exec> 08└─The court ruling is absolutely correct, yes. But somehow I still fail to share your enthusiasm. How exactly is this going to help prevent the same shit from happening again, and again? The cops did a Rambo-style ambush because they expected armed resistance. The guy shot at the cops because he was a...
[19:31:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good for him - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:31:32] <exec> 08└─cops kicking in people's doors enforcing unconstitutional laws are not "people" they are traitors and deserve the punishment of traitors.
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[20:25:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03lgw [2836] (Score:2) 02Re:500C (932F) steam - 06World's Hottest Borehole Nearly Complete - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:25:51] <exec> 08└─Just live near enough to a volcano and everything will be fine! More seriously, geothermal doesn't scale, and isn't necessarily safe (though the risk may be on the same scale as fracking). The raw solar power per square meter of Earth's surface is something like 10,000x the geothermal power per squa...
[20:25:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score:2) 02Prior idea! - 06World's Hottest Borehole Nearly Complete - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:25:54] <exec> 08└─The researchers want to bring steam from the deep... to provide... energy.
[20:26:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03darnkitten [1912] (Score:2) 02Re:How would this work? - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 1187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:26:16] <exec> 08└─I was wondering that myself. I also thought that encryption might result in many more broken cameras, both from photographer frustration and from other parties smashing cards and phones/cameras because they don't want to take chances with what might be on them... - Maybe the manufacturers could rig...
[20:26:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:Bad Idea For Most Other Working Professionals - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:26:23] <exec> 08└─any encryption/compression is something to be avoided.
[20:26:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:Bad Idea For Most Other Working Professionals - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 1241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:26:25] <exec> 08└─Encryption alone won't impact on the quality of the data - I think you're confusing it with lossy compression formats like JPEG or MPEG - although it will have an impact on the time taken for an image to go from sensor to card as there would need to be an extra processing step. Instead of "Sensor -...
[20:26:35] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Uncle_Al [1108] 02Step 4 is always "PROFIT!" - 06A Basic Introduction To Neural Networks - 16 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:26:35] <exec> 08└─Step 4: PROPHET!
[20:26:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Introduction: transhumanist edition - 06A Basic Introduction To Neural Networks - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:26:36] <exec> 08└─> 4. All religions now true because you invented god. Organized religions are based on belief. If you provide proof of God, people won't need structures to shape their belief and interaction with Her, causing all human-created religions to collapse.
[20:26:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Introduction: transhumanist edition - 06A Basic Introduction To Neural Networks - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:26:38] <exec> 08└─Considering that this was intended as a mockery of transhumanism(as it exists in e-cults obsessed with it), the exact repercussions of their beliefs coming true weren't particularly important to me. But to address your point as an actual argument, you seriously underestimate the ability of religions...
[20:26:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Introduction: transhumanist edition - 06A Basic Introduction To Neural Networks - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:26:41] <exec> 08└─But I'm not underestimating the ability of a Real Proven God to address the problem of those people speaking in Her name while not deserving it, while pushing contradictory and absurd self-serving instructions.
[20:26:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Introduction: transhumanist edition - 06A Basic Introduction To Neural Networks - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:26:43] <exec> 08└─Ah yes, the "My god will care about exactly the same trivial tribal nonsense I do and smite those unbelievers" canard, but with a nice transhumanism twist.
[20:27:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:gospel - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:27:43] <exec> 08└─Yeah, [wate.com] I [www.ncf.church] believe [newcityfellowship.com] that. [cbn.com]
[20:27:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] 02Re:Darkage 2.0 - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 654 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:27:54] <exec> 08└─people truly hated rumsfeld. people now, also, truly hate pence. trump, I can deal with. a bozo who has no motivations other than to line his pockets. we've seen that and it does not destroy things, per se. god botherers, though, IN THE WHITE HOUSE, that's entirely something to be afraid of. when a...
[20:27:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Money is not Trump's Motivation - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:27:58] <exec> 08└─And Neville Chamberlain rises from the grave to post on soylent!
[20:27:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Money is not Trump's Motivation - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 702 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:28:00] <exec> 08└─Well what do you think we are doing???? Delusion is flying thick and heavy through the air, fascism and dictatorship are reaching new levels in many countries. There is change in the air, now make sure you choose the right path. Trump himself may not be the anti-christ, but his cabinet picks aren't...
[20:28:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:It's amazing to me... - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 626 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:28:07] <exec> 08└─In a nutshell, to destroy and annoying agency, you appoint someone who wants it gone, and therefore won't fight when it loses huge chunks of its budget next year. You make it pretty clear down the ranks that the boss isn't interested in some causes. Then the hammer comes down because of the budget c...
[20:28:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:It's amazing to me... - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 1471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:28:12] <exec> 08└─You are correct, things like this do not go away with a simple wave of the hand... However, When trump takes office, The executive branch will become republican. The legislative branch will be republican. The judicial branch will be tied based on political affiliation; but the first thing done will...
[20:28:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:WTF? - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 1549 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:28:37] <exec> 08└─My wife and I have opposite opinions of rice cookers: she loves them, I think they take almost as much work while making an often inferior finished product, though if you measure "artfully" you can get great rice out of a cooker, too. If you can measure the water, maintain enough attention to be the...
[20:28:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03charon [5660] (Score:1) 02O Canada! - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:28:51] <exec> 08└─When making homemade whipped cream, a splash of maple syrup is the perfect sweetener.
[20:29:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:And Air! Food uses air! - 06Every Meal Eaten Estimated to Cost the Planet 10 Kilos of Lost Topsoil - 941 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:29:14] <exec> 08└─No one said that topsoil is not being replenished. The point is that modern agriculture is consuming it faster than natural processes can replenish it. That is what is meant by “lost”. And since by your own admission you did not read TFA, the author actually proposes the following, rather than m...
[20:29:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Burz [6156] (Score:1) 02Re:Hydroponics, Terra Preta, and Efficiency - 06Every Meal Eaten Estimated to Cost the Planet 10 Kilos of Lost Topsoil - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:29:21] <exec> 08└─Additionally, one of the main goals of organic agriculture is to prevent topsoil degradation and loss--to not farm like an intensive extraction industry. Buying organic *ought* to help, and I'd hope that data exists showing whether this is true in practice.
[20:29:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02So - 06Every Meal Eaten Estimated to Cost the Planet 10 Kilos of Lost Topsoil - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:29:39] <exec> 08└─30kg a day, 210kg a week? Wow, the world should end in a couple months' time then.
[20:30:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't forget the trough.... - 06Massive Atlantic Wave Sets Record Says World Meteorological Organization - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:30:19] <exec> 08└─There are a few interesting ships that do that... of course this one comes to mind: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[20:34:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:I can't believe I'm reading this - 06Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - 391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:34:47] <exec> 08└─People pay into it, then they get to use it. The people who aren't paying for it are a minority. It's disingenuous to suggest otherwise. Every pay stub I get has lines for both medicare and social security. Those alone cover most of the "welfare" spending. It's a lie to suggest that 3/4 government i...
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[21:26:02] <exec> 08└─On the other hand, geothermal is available 24/7, ignoring the clock, seasons, and all weather short of a local landslide. That kind of capacity factor goes a long way. Even dams can get the occasional drought or flood disrupting them. Anyone knows the typical maintenance outage on Geo, compared to p...
[21:26:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:500C (932F) steam - 06World's Hottest Borehole Nearly Complete - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:26:03] <exec> 08└─Well maybe if you use enough of the energy the volcano will take longer to erupt :).
[21:26:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03zocalo [302] 02Re:security - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 1356 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:26:16] <exec> 08└─I think that's actually part the issue they are trying to solve here - the key phrase is "plausible deniability"; it's not about hiding the fact that there *are* images/video, so much as hiding the contents *of* the images/video. One way this could work would be for the photographer to generate a ke...
[21:26:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:security - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:26:20] <exec> 08└─In the GP's example there is no password. Though that implies that they would not be able to review the encrypted images in the field.
[21:26:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score:2) 02Re:security - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 441 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:26:22] <exec> 08└─There is a password somewhere, otherwise the person being arrested would never be able to decrypt the files. Ergo there is a password somewhere. Doesn't matter if it is on the person at the time or not. I guess you can claim "I don't know the password, honest", but if you can't convince them of why...
[21:26:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:security - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:26:24] <exec> 08└─but there's no way to actually review the files once encrypted until they are back in a safe location and the private key is available.
[21:26:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:security - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:26:26] <exec> 08└─That is part of what would happen. The other is 'decrpyt this or we keep your 1500 dollar toy'.
[21:26:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:How would this work? - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:26:35] <exec> 08└─To frustrate bad actors and authorities, the files should be encrypted before you run into trouble. Encrypting a 64GB card would just take too long. An "oh shit button" can me useful for deleting symmetric encryption keys from memory. As has been pointed out, with Public Key cryptography, the decryp...
[21:26:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:How would this work? - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:26:40] <exec> 08└─You may be better off with just a setup that uploads all pictures/video taken to a (sufficiently trusted) cloud account. Dropbox is set up to do that on my phone. On the plus side, destroying the camera wouldn't help that situation at all. Not that the piggies might not decide to do it anyway just o...
[21:26:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bad Idea For Most Other Working Professionals - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:26:49] <exec> 08└─Encryption has no effect on on the image 'purity' (you mean quality?). Also, the limiting factor probably is the flash write speed. Encryption can be handled by one extra chip. I might cost extra, but it doesn't need to be slower.
[21:27:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Introduction: transhumanist edition - 06A Basic Introduction To Neural Networks - 577 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:27:04] <exec> 08└─Not quite. I was talking about the collapse of Organized religion once a proven Omnipotent God is available and giving worshiping instructions on Her Myspace page. If you know you're selling bullshit for power and profit, or if you know that your religion doesn't line up with the latest tweet from t...
[21:27:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:Introduction: transhumanist edition - 06A Basic Introduction To Neural Networks - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:27:06] <exec> 08└─I admit, if She ever did start existing in a provable manner and posting to MySpace, the most startling thing would be that MySpace would be relevant again!
[21:28:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Google Does Not Make You Informed - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 1404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:28:08] <exec> 08└─You seem to be denying that sunday morning isn't still the most segregated hour of the week. You are just ignorant. 86% of evangelical churches are segregated. Sure some of the SBC leadership realizes that's fucked up. But they also said Trump was a horrible candidate and the rank-and-file still vo...
[21:28:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's amazing to me... - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:28:34] <exec> 08└─What? The EPA has secret data? Why don't they just publish EVERYTHING on something like wikileaks, github, etc. It'll get replicated everywhere. This election results fear mongering is getting very silly. Now I can't believe anything they're saying. They're all FAKE news!
[21:28:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WTF? - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:28:53] <exec> 08└─And Gluten-Free. It will be the tits.
[21:29:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02Re:Whippettes? - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:29:15] <exec> 08└─The more of it I breathe, the more plausible it sound!
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[22:25:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:3, Funny) 02New SkyrimSE mod? - 06Moving Clouds, and Possibly Gems, Detected on Jupiter-Like Exoplanet - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:47] <exec> 08└─So now I'll have to start mining exoplanets for corundum ore to smelt into ingots for armor/weapon upgrades? Is there a new teleportation spell for this?....*crickets* Methinks I stumbled onto the wrong forum... ;-)
[22:25:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:New SkyrimSE mod? - 06Moving Clouds, and Possibly Gems, Detected on Jupiter-Like Exoplanet - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:25:49] <exec> 08└─You n'wah!
[22:25:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:New SkyrimSE mod? - 06Moving Clouds, and Possibly Gems, Detected on Jupiter-Like Exoplanet - 445 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:25:51] <exec> 08└─It may be lack of caffeine, or lack of knowledge, but I have to respectfully ask: What? I really don't understand, and am curious enough to want to. BTW, my intent was to start off a discussion(hopefully on-topic), but have limited knowledge of the subject(but high interest), and seeing no comments...
[22:25:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:New SkyrimSE mod? - 06Moving Clouds, and Possibly Gems, Detected on Jupiter-Like Exoplanet - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:25:53] <exec> 08└─I think "you n'wah" was a gaming reference to follow your own. What is it you're hoping to understand about the article?
[22:25:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hawkwind [3531] (Score:2) 02Re:New SkyrimSE mod? - 06Moving Clouds, and Possibly Gems, Detected on Jupiter-Like Exoplanet - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:25:55] <exec> 08└─Methinks I stumbled onto the wrong forum...
[22:25:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hawkwind [3531] (Score:2) 02Any astrogeophysicists in the house? - 06Moving Clouds, and Possibly Gems, Detected on Jupiter-Like Exoplanet - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:57] <exec> 08└─OK, rts008 has inspired me to see if I can get some some conversation going. I also find this interesting and after reading through the linked items and spending too much time on Wikipedia I'm still wondering, what would cause a gas planet to have the aluminum and oxygen for this while Jupiter doesn...
[22:26:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hawkwind [3531] (Score:2) 02Re:500C (932F) steam - 06World's Hottest Borehole Nearly Complete - 586 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:26:08] <exec> 08└─I think that's an interesting question. I didn't find the real answer but I did come across a seven page pdf discussing the challenges of maintaining a geothermal plant: Maintenance History of a Geothe rmal Plant: Svartsengi Iceland [geothermal-energy.org]. The actual issues and what they do for eac...
[22:26:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Of 'right' minds...(not political 'right') - 06World's Hottest Borehole Nearly Complete - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:26:12] <exec> 08└─You were given the all to common 'mistranslation' of the issue. It 'does not work' to enrich Big Oil, and would not be 'worth it' because it does not sustain obscene profits for them(Big Oil). Didn't believe that then, don't believe it now....
[22:26:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03StarryEyed [2888] (Score:1) 02I'm sure nothing will go wrong... - 06World's Hottest Borehole Nearly Complete - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:26:14] <exec> 08└─"The IDDP team says it is currently "drilling blind", which means no rocky debris is coming back up to the surface. Instead, it is somehow being absorbed into the surrounding rocks. And without being able to examine the rock, it means the geologists really are heading into the unknown." http://tardi...
[22:26:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Inapropriate behavior coming... - 06World's Hottest Borehole Nearly Complete - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:26:16] <exec> 08└─Don't click on the link! It leads to goatse!!! Just kidding...maybe. ;-)
[22:26:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:No excuse - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 1194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:26:27] <exec> 08└─Other than the usability excuse. Encryption means there is one more thing that can stand between you and functionality: namely the decryption key which must be properly managed. The more securely one manages their encryption keys, the more likely they are to lose them altogether. On a philosophical...
[22:26:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:security - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:26:35] <exec> 08└─You can have key-pairs without passwords. You just have to hope you can explain to you interrogator the concept of public-key encryption.
[22:26:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score:2) 02Re:security - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 618 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:26:38] <exec> 08└─> You just have to hope you can explain to you interrogator the concept of public-key encryption. I don't think they will care. If they arrest you and demand you decrypt, you either do it, or you go to prison. Simple. Doesn't matter the type of encryption, they don't care. They have forensic people...
[22:26:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:security - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 964 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:26:40] <exec> 08└─What you say is: 1) "I'm the picture TAKER, that's all I can do. I point, click, and an encrypted file gets created with information I've never seen, possessed, or interacted with. If I connect it to Internet, everything syncs back to my employer's servers in the United States. Here is my job overvi...
[22:26:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcross [4009] (Score:2) 02Re:security - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 733 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:26:42] <exec> 08└─If the password is available in physical form in my home country, I can claim to be quite willing to cooperate. Oh yes, I'm happy to give you that password/private-key, I just need to fly home and unlock the safe in my house and then I'll be right back with it. I'm sure the law can be applied in nas...
[22:26:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:How would this work? - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:26:49] <exec> 08└─I was thinking that something like an EyeFi card could real-time transmit your images to a little pocket-pc that locks them up as tight as you care to, preferably on redundant microSDHC cards that can be hidden almost anywhere - even embedded in post-cards for a hail-mary trip through the physical m...
[22:26:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:How would this work? - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:26:51] <exec> 08└─Good idea. RPi in slim case with battery. Saves to some media and the Pi encrypts everything in that directory every 30 seconds via cronjob. Bulky, but you could just leave it in your bag or what have you. I like it.
[22:26:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:How would this work? - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 613 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:26:58] <exec> 08└─Actually, it's kind of a moot point, at least for the preview function on my T5i. I just popped the sd card out and gave it a few clicks. It will display the preview even with no storage, so it's pulling that from buffer, not the card. Surprised it will even try to snap the picture without a card, b...
[22:27:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:How would this work? - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 700 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:27:01] <exec> 08└─It's not that hard. For the people who aren't technical you have an app that generates the keys and provisions the SD card or camera itself. Once there, you already got the idea for a delay. Allow 5 minutes, or some programmable duration, for review of images. If not deleted, they get encrypted and...
[22:27:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:How would this work? - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:27:07] <exec> 08└─Oh, for Demon Murphy's sakes! You kids...instant gratification is not fast enough for you anymore...sheesh!
[22:27:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bad Idea For Most Other Working Professionals - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:27:14] <exec> 08└─The encryption would have to occur after the photo is taken and reviewed
[22:27:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bad Idea For Most Other Working Professionals - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:27:17] <exec> 08└─First off, encryption and compression are completely different things.
[22:27:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bad Idea For Most Other Working Professionals - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:27:20] <exec> 08└─No. I am not confusing encryption with compression. However, it is likely that the footage/image data will have to be compressed before it goes to the encryption stage -- to reduce the needed encryption processing power (again, "bandwidth"). Any type of data conversion that is executed in the camera...
[22:27:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bad Idea For Most Other Working Professionals - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 437 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:27:22] <exec> 08└─Remember that the usage case here isn't for stuff destined for National Geographic documentaries and IMAX movies; it's for current affairs and reportage where the content is *much* more important than the quality which, in a pinch, only needs to cross the minimal bar of "good enough" - news channels...
[22:27:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bad Idea For Most Other Working Professionals - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 438 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:27:25] <exec> 08└─I know that encryption doesn't necessarily reduce quality of data. Notice that I wrote "encryption/compression." They are two separate things. However, it is likely that the footage/image data will have to be compressed before it goes to the encryption stage -- to reduce the needed encryption proce...
[22:27:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02I'll toss this in - 06Filmmakers and Photojournalists Call on Camera Companies to Implement Encryption - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:27:27] <exec> 08└─The SD cards are getting faster: Secure Digital 5.0 Standard: Memory Cards Intended for 8K and Virtual Reality Recording [soylentnews.org] I assume your encryption capable model will also have improved memory bandwidth and an improved price.
[22:27:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:What does it mean for water to be “old”? - 06World’s Oldest Water Gets Even Older - 351 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:27:53] <exec> 08└─Umm, considering how chemically and biologically active water is, and that both aspects involve chemical reactions which cause the component atoms to cease to be water, it seems rather likely that the atoms in any given water molecule that's been ecologically accessible has been something other than...
[22:27:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Not saying much - 06World’s Oldest Water Gets Even Older - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:28:00] <exec> 08└─You only think that because you haven't seen my five-dimensional hypercamera - it only takes pictures of you when you were older.
[22:28:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:AKA The Nestle World Heritage Spring - 06World’s Oldest Water Gets Even Older - 471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:28:06] <exec> 08└─The free market, if such a thing had ever existed outside an economist's dreams, only allocates resources in the most economically efficient manner. To claim that that is the "best" or "most valuable" manner is making an unsubstantiated leap of faith, as there is precious little evidence to suggest...
[22:28:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] 02why are the republicans the party of the - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 1418 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:28:39] <exec> 08└─anti-intellectuals? ie, they are the science deniers, they are firmly in bed with Big Religion(tm) which is no friend to logical thought and reasoning. this isn't really about trump, its about the party of denial. every time they take massive power, we end up with more 'god' stuff shoved down our th...
[22:28:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Google Does Not Make You Informed - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 794 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:28:49] <exec> 08└─Keep moving those goalposts, boy, eventually you'll happen upon a point that sticks while ignoring every other argument that was made. Let me direct your attention, again, that the black church (note that hint of segregation there? Thanks for pointing out the obvious) is a large component of the Dem...
[22:28:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:why are the republicans the party of the - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:28:59] <exec> 08└─God gave man oil to burn, and when the oil is all burned, Jesus will come back and rapture the people who burned the most oil to heaven while the infidels will burn forever in the lake of fire. The lake runs on nat gas.
[22:29:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03https [5248] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Darkage 2.0 - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 3681 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:29:10] <exec> 08└─It's not scaremongering. It's an observation of a pattern of action that has worked well elsewhere. This will require an attention span of more than one minute, so please bear with me. Here in Canada, we recently had the most frighteningly fascist administration in a long time (under Stephen Harper)...
[22:29:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's amazing to me... - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:29:15] <exec> 08└─0 votes until at least 2018 or 2020. Until then, it's open season.
[22:29:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:It's amazing to me... - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:29:22] <exec> 08└─Stephen Harper up in Canada destroyed many volumes of scientific literature by de-funding the libraries storing them. This has happened in the last 5 years, The Harper Government Has Trashed and Destroyed Environmental Books and Documents [vice.com]
[22:29:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Frozen? - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:29:43] <exec> 08└─At my place of employment they use frozen whip cream. Not sure if they use air or NO.
[22:29:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What's the Opposite of Efficiency? - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:29:59] <exec> 08└─well yeah the first law of economics is the law of supply and demand.
[22:30:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:O Canada! - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:30:06] <exec> 08└─It's a Good Thing(R).
[22:30:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03el_oscuro [1711] (Score:2) 02Meanwhile on Mars... - 06A Promising Spot for Life On Mars - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:30:17] <exec> 08└─"Earth Aliens have landed! They have lasers and are shooting! It's an invasion!" Call Area 52 and get Marvin on the line. We are going to power up the Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator. Earth always blocked my view of Venus anyway. Prepare to attack!
[22:33:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:Unfortunate - 06Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:33:07] <exec> 08└─To use the "self defence" defence, you need to use the minimum necessary force to diffuse the situation. If the defendant has executed the police officers, instead of merely injuring them, he would not have been aquitted.
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[23:25:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:New SkyrimSE mod? - 06Moving Clouds, and Possibly Gems, Detected on Jupiter-Like Exoplanet - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:25:56] <exec> 08└─It's a lack of coffee causing inadvertent butter fingers on the keyboard. That's what I'm going with until I receive new data....
[23:25:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:New SkyrimSE mod? - 06Moving Clouds, and Possibly Gems, Detected on Jupiter-Like Exoplanet - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:25:57] <exec> 08└─It's a much older meme than "Stop right there, criminal scum!" This should jog your memory: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[23:26:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Any astrogeophysicists in the house? - 06Moving Clouds, and Possibly Gems, Detected on Jupiter-Like Exoplanet - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:26:01] <exec> 08└─You're not going to get much of a meaningful answer here, we simply don't know enough about stellar formation. There are a million possibilities, the short answer is "that's what happened to be there when the planet formed". Perhaps the tidal locking causes more of the gas giant to churn, bringing h...
[23:26:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Any astrogeophysicists in the house? - 06Moving Clouds, and Possibly Gems, Detected on Jupiter-Like Exoplanet - 442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:26:03] <exec> 08└─My question is how the hell are these "rubies" floating in the clouds? That's what really bakes my noodle. It's like Interstellar were they land on clouds that are solid. Huh? I guess there would be differences in density or something, but that doesn't explain how a "ruby" still floats within them....
[23:26:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Any astrogeophysicists in the house? - 06Moving Clouds, and Possibly Gems, Detected on Jupiter-Like Exoplanet - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:26:06] <exec> 08└─while Jupiter doesn't?
[23:27:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Neural Networks: A Systematic Approach - 06A Basic Introduction To Neural Networks - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:27:33] <exec> 08└─Neural Networks: A Systematic Approach by Rojas is my favorite book on neural networks; it is very readable. It starts with the very basics and moves on from there, and covers all the topics that you would expect from a first course on the subject. I particularly liked the construction that demonstr...
[23:28:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:False positives - 06The Trouble With Facial Recognition Technology (in the Real World) - 784 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:28:06] <exec> 08└─Even if the police are 100% honest and competent, faulty fingerprints can still be pretty useful - if there's a million people in the city, there's probably only what, a few thousand who could possibly have left the fingerprints found at the scene? And far fewer where there's a high probability. Tha...
[23:28:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Excellent test - 06The Trouble With Facial Recognition Technology (in the Real World) - 2627 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:28:13] <exec> 08└─Correction - Even 75% correct identification of an individual images could be extremely useful, assuming you also extract the 2nd, 3rd, etc. best matches. Think asking "Who is the unidentified person in this photo?", and the computer searches through it's database of millions of people to give you t...
[23:28:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Witless suspension of disbelief - 06The Trouble With Facial Recognition Technology (in the Real World) - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:28:18] <exec> 08└─And always remember that the good guys are beautiful, the villains ugly, and that you should never, ever, trust anyone wearing a black hat. Sadly, except for the hat, that actually seems to be rather deeply ingrained in the modern psyche.
[23:28:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Google Does Not Make You Informed - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 1444 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:28:43] <exec> 08└─> that the black church (note that hint of segregation there? Don't be a dipshit. Black churches are black because the white churches are exclusionary. Blaming the excluded for being left out is some whack bullshit. > somehow is different from white churches because "reasons". No, not "reasons." Gre...
[23:29:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Darkage 2.0 - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 793 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:29:04] <exec> 08└─A couple of problems: on SN you probably won't find too many politically focused people who follow every political news item. This means most are limited to the article at hand and whatever thoughts they've gathered overall. Next you have Trump who isn't even president yet so all we can do is specul...
[23:29:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's amazing to me... - 06Archive.org Works With Others to Back up EPA and Other Government Data - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:29:15] <exec> 08└─Maybe try growing a brain? It seems you are paying zero attention to the details of reality... The amount of data the EPA has is HUGE, not something you can just send up on a torrent file and "replicate everywhere".
[23:29:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:I know how to make my own whipped cream. - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:29:32] <exec> 08└─And you get to huff the nitrous once empty. It's the gift that keeps on giving...
[23:29:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What's the Opposite of Efficiency? - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:29:56] <exec> 08└─What's the Opposite of Efficiency?
[23:30:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03charon [5660] (Score:1) 02Re:O Canada! - 06Nitrous Oxide Shortage Looms in U.S. -- Nobody Notices until it Impacts Dessert - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:30:05] <exec> 08└─Ha, I didn't know that was a Martha Stewart thing. I discovered it on my own. But seriously, it is delicious.
[23:30:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Read Tuf Voyaging - 06Every Meal Eaten Estimated to Cost the Planet 10 Kilos of Lost Topsoil - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:30:52] <exec> 08└─Read Tuf Voyaging [wikipedia.org] by George RR Martin, multiple short stories, the S'uthlam arc talks about engineering food. Green Revolution is in the first stories of the arc, time will tell it goes into the last one or magically manages to keep solving the problems.
[23:33:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Red Lights - 06Uber's Self-Driving Cars to be Tested in San Francisco - 438 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:33:31] <exec> 08└─You're right. There a lot of people who will choose convenience before the inconvenience of standing up for their principles and standing their ground. Protesting with your wallet, and protesting in general does require some form of sacrifice. I'm not one of them. I sacrifice for my principles becau...
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