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[00:20:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Easy to believe - 06Native Americans Possibly Raising Turkeys Long Before the First Thanksgiving - 2094 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:20:12] <exec> 08└─It isn't difficult at all to live alongside Turkeys. Amazingly funny and expressive creatures, they can grow fond of human interaction. Of course, corn helps. Helps a lot, and will even turn them into little stalkers that will knock their beaks on your window in the morning. I can see Tonto getting...
[00:20:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:2) 02Re:This is a big deal in Canada - 06Trudeau Cabinet Approves Trans Mountain, Line 3 Pipelines, Rejects Northern Gateway - 881 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:20:23] <exec> 08└─The deficit is actually closer to $10 Billion, I was wrong there. I'm quite liberal in a part of the country that is quite conservative. I don't personally think that Alberta should be banking their future on the oil sands, but the reality of the matter is that for now, we do need them. At least wit...
[00:20:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:This is a big deal in Canada - 06Trudeau Cabinet Approves Trans Mountain, Line 3 Pipelines, Rejects Northern Gateway - 401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:20:25] <exec> 08└─At one point, though, Alberta had a huge surplus... then they started spending and spending. Governments need to start being smarter. But I agree about the equalisation payments: Ontario's money goes to Quebec too... I love it when their government of the day says "we'll separate!!!" We say "go for...
[00:20:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03aclarke [2049] (Score:2) 02I sympathize but... - 06Trudeau Cabinet Approves Trans Mountain, Line 3 Pipelines, Rejects Northern Gateway - 1678 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:20:27] <exec> 08└─I genuinely sympathize with Albertans where your economy is tied so closely to oil. I care about people's well-being, but on the other hand I feel very strongly that we can't keep selling our future for the present. I've been thinking a lot lately about the utter inadequacy of capitalism to value an...
[00:20:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:A sad day - 06Trudeau Cabinet Approves Trans Mountain, Line 3 Pipelines, Rejects Northern Gateway - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:20:32] <exec> 08└─Yes, now that Harper is gone it may be time to get rid of smiley Harper junior.
[00:21:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gault.Drakkor [1079] (Score:1) 02Re:a little more INGSOC every day - 06Elite U.S. Special Operators Build Center for Perpetual War on Terror - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:21:02] <exec> 08└─plus good! We have always been at war with terror.
[00:21:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02I have a dream - 06Elite U.S. Special Operators Build Center for Perpetual War on Terror - 372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:21:04] <exec> 08└─Yeah, let's fuck over the rest of the world some more until ww3 DOES start, then after, we can say stupid things like "at this point, what does it matter???" The U.S. gov/agencies just do. not. learn. If you stop fucking people, maybe they'll stop feeling fucked and try to fuck back! So, who's the t...
[00:21:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:3d printer - 06Jigsaw-Like Puzzle That Maps to a Klein Bottle and Can be Constructed in Multiple Ways - 798 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:21:18] <exec> 08└─I build my own 3d printers but the idea that you have to calibrate every printer isn't really correct, lulzbot and ultimaker machines work out of the box and I'm pretty sure M3D printers do also. These printers come calibrated and at most you have to play with the extruder a tiny bit to clean up the...
[00:21:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:2) 02On a computer? - 06Jigsaw-Like Puzzle That Maps to a Klein Bottle and Can be Constructed in Multiple Ways - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:21:23] <exec> 08└─Looks like something to do in a computer jigsaw puzzle game -- You make the available screen larger than the tile size, and when you move a piece, you automatically move all its mirrors.
[00:22:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Must "consider" debating? - 06100k+ Petition: MPs Must Consider Debating Snoopers' Charter Again - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:22:13] <exec> 08└─Royal Ascent Don't you mean royal assend?
[00:22:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Overreaction - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:22:35] <exec> 08└─the worst case scenario is a trip to Canada The worst case scenario is there won't be a Canada.
[00:22:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:People's Front of Judea - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 2313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:22:49] <exec> 08└─1. Clinton is the lizard person. I'm hoping that's just metaphor, but you never know! 2. Yes. Both Clinton and Trump were that horrendously bad (along with Stein and Johnson being exercises in futility) that the choice really did come down to that. Well, more I should say that the choice came down t...
[00:22:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:People's Front of Judea - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:22:50] <exec> 08└─The vice-president-elect thinks you can be "fixed" with drugs. No problem there, I'm sure.
[00:23:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Overreaction - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 429 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:23:06] <exec> 08└─> The New York Times, the standard of American journalism, issued a mea culpa after the election saying they blew it. That's something you'll never see from a site like breitbart, or even fox. Fox doesn't even have an ombudsman. The fact that they are publicly willing to own their mistakes is why th...
[00:23:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The smell of your own farts - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 440 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:23:08] <exec> 08└─http://www.cbsnews.com/news/in-the-wake-of-corey-lewandowski-arrest-breitbart-editor-admits-he-was-wrong/ [cbsnews.com] Oh, and https://christopherfountain.wordpress.com [wordpress.com] I suppose after you've exhausted every other re...
[00:23:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Overreaction - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:23:11] <exec> 08└─::rolleyes::
[00:23:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Overreaction - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:23:20] <exec> 08└─Setting up an email server isn't illegal. Handing over classified information to a reporter who then publishes a book about it, is.
[00:23:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03J053 [3532] (Score:2) 02Re:Overreaction - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 418 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:23:22] <exec> 08└─I still have never seen any verified accusation that any of Hillary Clinton's emails, that were stored on her "private" server, were ever leaked or revealed to anyone not authorized to see them. And, if as head of the CIA Patreaus didn't have the "juice" as you say to keep from being prosecuted, how...
[00:23:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03J053 [3532] (Score:2) 02Re:Overreaction - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:23:31] <exec> 08└─The point was to shortstop a Constitutional Amendment being proposed at about the same time by the right wing. It worked.
[00:23:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Flag burning side thread - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:23:44] <exec> 08└─We should be burning Confederate and Nazi flags at every opportunity! They are as anti-American as you can get. Burning the American Flag is an acceptable form of protest. So is flying it upside-down, because the country is in distress.
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[02:50:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Easy to believe - 06Native Americans Possibly Raising Turkeys Long Before the First Thanksgiving - 462 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:50:17] <exec> 08└─They're fairly adept at avoiding objects. Smarter than they look? I once heard three males go nuts, and by the time I saw them they were chasing each other around a tree like a cartoon. You couldn't tell who was chasing who, and the chased had to be chasing a chaser within a foot. Went on for at lea...
[02:50:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Little thought . . . - 06Native Americans Possibly Raising Turkeys Long Before the First Thanksgiving - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:50:21] <exec> 08└─We took or "bought" their land, killed most of them, enslaved or parked the rest into reserves, but that's okay because they were just rednecks aimlessly roaming the land, and didn't even believe in our god. Who's writing the history books, again?
[02:50:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:2) 02re They KNEW - 06Native Americans Possibly Raising Turkeys Long Before the First Thanksgiving - 897 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:50:23] <exec> 08└─If you read the "Letters from Hernán Cortés", you will find out that: The native Americans had turkeys, no need to dig anything to find out: "[...] and they roast many chickens, like those of the Tierra Firma, which are as large as peacocks." [historians.org] (obviously turkeys) Cortés clearly st...
[02:50:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Flipping owners - 06Native Americans Possibly Raising Turkeys Long Before the First Thanksgiving - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:50:25] <exec> 08└─So, they gave the pilgrims the bird.
[02:50:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:This is a big deal in Canada - 06Trudeau Cabinet Approves Trans Mountain, Line 3 Pipelines, Rejects Northern Gateway - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:50:37] <exec> 08└─Overall, unfortunately, I think this was pretty much a no-win situation for Trudeau. No matter what the decisions were, there would be very unhappy people and protests.
[02:50:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:This is a big deal in Canada - 06Trudeau Cabinet Approves Trans Mountain, Line 3 Pipelines, Rejects Northern Gateway - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:50:42] <exec> 08└─Ontario's money *used* to go to Quebec. Now. we get money from Alberta as well, or we certainly did for the past few years. Dalton McLyingPieceOfRatshit drove us into the ground, adding 35%+ teacher salary increases on top of a bad economy (I'm sure his wife being a teacher is not a conflict of inte...
[02:50:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aclarke [2049] 02I sympathize but... - 06Trudeau Cabinet Approves Trans Mountain, Line 3 Pipelines, Rejects Northern Gateway - 1678 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:50:44] <exec> 08└─I genuinely sympathize with Albertans where your economy is tied so closely to oil. I care about people's well-being, but on the other hand I feel very strongly that we can't keep selling our future for the present. I've been thinking a lot lately about the utter inadequacy of capitalism to value an...
[02:50:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:I sympathize but... - 06Trudeau Cabinet Approves Trans Mountain, Line 3 Pipelines, Rejects Northern Gateway - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:50:46] <exec> 08└─I care about people's well-being, but on the other hand I feel very strongly that we can't keep selling our future for the present. I've been thinking a lot lately about the utter inadequacy of capitalism to value anything that can't be quantified with a dollar sign, and our democratic system's inab...
[02:50:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is a big deal in Canada - 06Trudeau Cabinet Approves Trans Mountain, Line 3 Pipelines, Rejects Northern Gateway - 831 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:50:48] <exec> 08└─Where I am from, Quebec, Alberta seems like a bunch of over-entitled cry-babies, that don't want to pay taxes, and then at the smallest trouble (like burning forests, flooding, whatever else happens and their corrupt oil-bribed politicians cannot handle) come crying to the federal government and the...
[02:50:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03snufu [5855] (Score:2) 02Official Canadian Global Warming plan: - 06Trudeau Cabinet Approves Trans Mountain, Line 3 Pipelines, Rejects Northern Gateway - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:50:55] <exec> 08└─Warm the globe until Canada is hospitable.
[02:51:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score:2) 02Bleach - 06Treating Antibiotic Resistant Bacteria at the Wastewater Plant - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:51:08] <exec> 08└─I thought bleach was used for this purpose
[02:52:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:2) 02Welcome Aboard! - 06Hello and Welcome - 441 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:52:23] <exec> 08└─Welcome Aboard! It has been a real treat to see the new guys come on board, learn the ropes of the UI as well as the vagaries of the process whereby a submission makes its way to the front page. It is not for the faint of heart. And then comes the acid test when the community starts providing const...
[02:56:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:Rote memorization - 06Testing Shows "Advanced" Students Not Always Advanced - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:56:07] <exec> 08└─I'm talking about having SOME facility with basic arithmetic facts that can allow you to go through basic demonstrations of how higher-level math works.
[02:56:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:kahn academy or similar.... - 06Testing Shows "Advanced" Students Not Always Advanced - 1255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:56:19] <exec> 08└─There's a balance that has to be made when it comes to that. One of the big problems is that we track students from a very young age to the point of denying students opportunities for harder work later on if they didn't test into the elite levels at age 7. It's a ridiculous practice without any scie...
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[03:51:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03dlb [4790] (Score:2) 02Re:Bleach - 06Treating Antibiotic Resistant Bacteria at the Wastewater Plant - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:51:02] <exec> 08└─Wouldn't that be hard on the environment, releasing bleach-treated water into the river and lakes?
[03:51:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03dlb [4790] (Score:2) 02Re:Nice! - 06Jigsaw-Like Puzzle That Maps to a Klein Bottle and Can be Constructed in Multiple Ways - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:51:38] <exec> 08└─Okay...you guys make a good argument for the price. The temptation to place an order grows!
[03:51:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03deadstick [5110] (Score:2) 02Re:3d printer - 06Jigsaw-Like Puzzle That Maps to a Klein Bottle and Can be Constructed in Multiple Ways - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:51:42] <exec> 08└─table saws will never be plug and play
[03:52:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mainframe Bloke [1665] (Score:1) 02Thanks heaps - 06Hello and Welcome - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:52:22] <exec> 08└─Trite but true: thanks heaps for jumping in. Noob question: why do double blanks, which according to my old typing teacher always follow colons and full stops, when entered in the text box input appear as single blanks in the HTML output? Just a "dumb question", but it detracts from the legibility,...
[03:52:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02royal assent - 06100k+ Petition: MPs Must Consider Debating Snoopers' Charter Again - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:52:45] <exec> 08└─Don't bet on it. It's been only 308 years since the last time this was denied. You never know.
[03:52:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03edIII [791] 02Re:Overreaction - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 2954 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:52:59] <exec> 08└─AGAIN, you feel the need to speak out of your fucking ass. The child emperor just made his ridiculous assertion (as a soon to be President, not average Joe Fuckwad) that he should be able to strip citizenship (which is absolutely impossible) over a Constitutionally protected act of protest burning a...
[03:53:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Democracy Not Necessary - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:53:05] <exec> 08└─Today we learn that people born after 1980, less than one third think it is essential to live in a democracy. [pri.org] Shit is going sideways. Trump isn't the cause, he's a symptom that hastens the infection to stage 3.
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[04:54:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Strigoi the superior form of life - 06Nitrogen in Ancient Rocks a Sign of Early Life - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:54:35] <exec> 08└─Isn't it great how strigoi spray ammonia while they feed. Their digestive tract is so elegant that liquid simply goes in one end and out the other simultaneously. Blood in the stinger, ammonia out the cloaca. The biological complexity of human cattle is vulgar by comparison. It's no wonder the human...
[04:54:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02lul - 06Hacker Dishes Advanced Phishing Kit to Hook Clever Staff in 10 Mins - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:54:42] <exec> 08└─Yawn. Good luck with that. I don't even use email anymore since it became nothing but phishing and spam. Somebody phish @soylentnews.org those fools are sure to swallow the bait.
[04:55:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03aclarke [2049] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:I sympathize but... - 06Trudeau Cabinet Approves Trans Mountain, Line 3 Pipelines, Rejects Northern Gateway - 414 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:55:19] <exec> 08└─I'll try to keep this short and on-point. I can't help but notice that people who complain in this way have no notable proficiency for thinking into the future or dealing with capitalism. Anything has some value in a capitalist society, if you choose to value it. But for so many things, people aren'...
[04:55:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03dlb [4790] (Score:2) 02Re:Bleach - 06Treating Antibiotic Resistant Bacteria at the Wastewater Plant - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:55:41] <exec> 08└─Wouldn't that be hard on the environment, releasing bleach-treated water into the river and lakes?
[04:56:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:It just gets worse come Jan 20 - 06Elite U.S. Special Operators Build Center for Perpetual War on Terror - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:56:01] <exec> 08└─Would heaven it were that easy to take down...poor bastard has only 65,535 HP, and I know a way to get Terra to put out 8x 9,999 strikes. We need something like that for the real world.
[04:56:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03dlb [4790] (Score:2) 02Re:Nice! - 06Jigsaw-Like Puzzle That Maps to a Klein Bottle and Can be Constructed in Multiple Ways - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:56:18] <exec> 08└─Okay...you guys make a good argument for the price. The temptation to place an order grows!
[04:56:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03deadstick [5110] (Score:2) 02Re:3d printer - 06Jigsaw-Like Puzzle That Maps to a Klein Bottle and Can be Constructed in Multiple Ways - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:56:22] <exec> 08└─table saws will never be plug and play
[04:56:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Hi! - 06Hello and Welcome - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:56:43] <exec> 08└─The goodness or badness of a pun is subjective. You could say it's in the "Oy!" of the beholder :D
[04:57:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mainframe Bloke [1665] (Score:1) 02Thanks heaps - 06Hello and Welcome - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:57:03] <exec> 08└─Trite but true: thanks heaps for jumping in. Noob question: why do double blanks, which according to my old typing teacher always follow colons and full stops, when entered in the text box input appear as single blanks in the HTML output? Just a "dumb question", but it detracts from the legibility,...
[04:57:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02royal assent - 06100k+ Petition: MPs Must Consider Debating Snoopers' Charter Again - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:57:25] <exec> 08└─Don't bet on it. It's been only 308 years since the last time this was denied. You never know.
[04:57:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Democracy Not Necessary - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:57:45] <exec> 08└─Today we learn that people born after 1980, less than one third think it is essential to live in a democracy. [pri.org] Shit is going sideways. Trump isn't the cause, he's a symptom that hastens the infection to stage 3.
[04:58:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:People's Front of Judea - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 845 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:58:03] <exec> 08└─Yeah granted that's disconcerting, but the worst he did in Indiana is make it so that wedding cake bakers can refuse certain people's money. (Why they would do so is beyond me, like literally in the sense I don't get their connection to this Reichsführer Jesus in the sky. While I haven't found Mr....
[04:58:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Trump May Not Be Anti-Gay, But His Senior Is - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:58:04] <exec> 08└─Trump’s Justice Department could undermine hate crime protections for LGBT people and withdraw Obama’s directive to schools not to discriminate against transgender students. Trump could also rescind Obama’s executive order prohibiting federal contractors from discriminating against LGBT employ...
[04:58:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The smell of your own farts - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 1055 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:58:24] <exec> 08└─Way to move the goalpost, you dolt. The statement was "The fact that they are publicly willing to own their mistakes", which I do believe a tweet qualifies. Throwing the reporter under the bus, or holding them to account when evidence clearly contradicted what they were reporting? Not only that, but...
[04:58:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Overreaction - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:58:25] <exec> 08└─Subscribe to your local newspaper, if you still have one. We are fairly fortunate, our long standing paper is now owned by Buffet and he appears to mostly leave them alone. While they don't have the news staff that they used to, they still have reporters that go dig for stories and expose real probl...
[04:58:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:Overreaction - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:58:37] <exec> 08└─I still have never seen any verified accusation that any of Hillary Clinton's emails, that were stored on her "private" server, were ever leaked or revealed to anyone not authorized to see them.
[05:00:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:Cowering in fear - 06Corporations Make Nice With the Donald - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:00:16] <exec> 08└─Transportation secretary? Did you notice that she has worked in previous administrations? Did you see who her spouse is? And there are others. Trump is filling his cabinet with insiders. Remember all that talk of draining the swamp?
[05:00:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03shanen [6084] (Score:1) 02No one in the IBM food chain, eh? - 06Corporations Make Nice With the Donald - 667 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:00:38] <exec> 08└─Well, I definitely agree with your comments about outsourcing. My last dealings with Big Blue mostly involved substituting cheap chopped Chinese chicken labor on short-term contracts for expensive local people... However, that doesn't make much sense to me as the motivation here. Trump don't care, b...
[05:01:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Cutting out the middlemen - 06IRS Casts Unusually Wide Net for Bitcoin User Data - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:01:43] <exec> 08└─Do you believe the US Constitution is the vehicle which legitimizes taxation?
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[05:54:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Weasley [6421] (Score:1) 02Re:And of course... - 06Native Americans Possibly Raising Turkeys Long Before the First Thanksgiving - 483 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:54:59] <exec> 08└─Where did the idea that Indians were good stewards of the land? Just as Indians weren't all plains dwelling nomads, they weren't all good stewards of the land. We're talking about the peoples that hunted mega fauna of the Americas to extinction--people that stampeded bison herds off cliffs--people t...
[05:55:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Weasley [6421] (Score:1) 02Re:Little thought . . . - 06Native Americans Possibly Raising Turkeys Long Before the First Thanksgiving - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:55:02] <exec> 08└─What history book in the last 50 years paints Europeans as benevolent in this regard?
[05:55:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Turkeys away! - 06Native Americans Possibly Raising Turkeys Long Before the First Thanksgiving - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:55:06] <exec> 08└─Happy Thanks...giving...from W...K...R...P. https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[05:55:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:This is a big deal in Canada - 06Trudeau Cabinet Approves Trans Mountain, Line 3 Pipelines, Rejects Northern Gateway - 1540 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:55:27] <exec> 08└─Most Canadians have very little idea of how equalization payments work, seeming to think that the Provincial Minister of Finance writes a check to Quebec or PEI, etc. It's actually that a Province like Alberta has lots of millionaires paying the highest rate in Federal income taxes and the Feds spen...
[05:55:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Official Canadian Global Warming plan: - 06Trudeau Cabinet Approves Trans Mountain, Line 3 Pipelines, Rejects Northern Gateway - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:55:35] <exec> 08└─Russia Liked this. 👍
[05:55:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ayn Anonymous [5012] (Score:1) 02Re:The 'Paywall' is history - 06Treating Antibiotic Resistant Bacteria at the Wastewater Plant - 449 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:55:48] <exec> 08└─OK, how about that: - Have a *GOOD VISIBLE* link to http://sci-hub.cc [sci-hub.cc] on the FRONTPAGE. - Embed the link to sci-hub.cc in a disclaimer to check back with your local laws before using sci-hu. - Move the server infrastructure to Iceland or any other non US slave country. - Move the domai...
[05:56:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:War on Terror... or... - 06Elite U.S. Special Operators Build Center for Perpetual War on Terror - 8 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:56:01] <exec> 08└─T.W.A.T.
[05:56:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:It just gets worse come Jan 20 - 06Elite U.S. Special Operators Build Center for Perpetual War on Terror - 459 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:56:08] <exec> 08└─You have to admit it is quite amazing that whenever Obama manages not to fuck up too badly, it is forged by his very own hands, yet when it all goes south, it's always those meddling republicans getting in the way. And in the face of this, Trump will somehow be able to transform the entire US into a...
[05:56:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] 02Re:It just gets worse come Jan 20 - 06Elite U.S. Special Operators Build Center for Perpetual War on Terror - 249 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:56:10] <exec> 08└─Are you serious, or is that a parody? I ask that because Obama actively defended unconstitutional mass surveillance and other horrendous policies; it wasn't as if he tried desperately to completely end our awful policies and Republicans stopped him.
[05:56:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I have a dream - 06Elite U.S. Special Operators Build Center for Perpetual War on Terror - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:56:20] <exec> 08└─And indeed they could if they really wanted to. But then the US would be #1 It's better to have someone else to point to and say, well at least we arent ISIS... (yet...)
[05:57:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03charon [5660] (Score:2) 02Re:Why in FUCKS name did you people - 06Hello and Welcome - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:57:00] <exec> 08└─Pretty sure I already won that a few days ago.
[05:57:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03charon [5660] (Score:2) 02Re:Thanks heaps - 06Hello and Welcome - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:57:17] <exec> 08└─Short answer: because that's how HTML rolls. All the whitespace in the world is collapsed to just one space. Still short, but slightly longer answer: if you want to go to the trouble, you can set a Greasemonkey script to place a non-breaking space appear after every period. This is probably more tro...
[05:57:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mainframe Bloke [1665] (Score:1) 02Too late? - 06100k+ Petition: MPs Must Consider Debating Snoopers' Charter Again - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:57:41] <exec> 08└─I saw in the Register that the bill is now law after being signed by ER. Is that not right? http://www.theregister.co.uk [theregister.co.uk] Tell me it ain't so!!! We'll get ours soon enough in Oz, I'm sure. We're going to hell in a handcart.
[05:57:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Overreaction - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:57:55] <exec> 08└─Yet the best they could do was find Canada. One would think they would at least Europe if they actually had disaster mitigation in mind.
[05:57:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Overreaction - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:57:56] <exec> 08└─What's gonna happen to the U.S. and Canada simultaneously? A Yellowstone megaeruption?
[05:58:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] 02Re:People's Front of Judea - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 1252 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:58:13] <exec> 08└─Limited government was never on the menu. I voted for the lizard person because I didn't want to put up with being on double secret probation for 4 years while women whine and cry about Roe v. Wade, rape, sexual harassment, glass ceilings, asshole 13 year olds playing Cock of Duty being representati...
[05:58:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Overreaction - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:58:23] <exec> 08└─The "left" lives in a perpetual no-true-scotsman fallacy while curtailing rights of majority in the name of minorities when in power.
[05:59:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Flag burning side thread - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:59:09] <exec> 08└─What is the most depressing part in Trump's (upcoming) presidency is the refusal of left to do some introspection. It is still all about finding fault with Trump, as if that wasn't done enough pre-election. People still voted and the best answer I get from reading leftist media is that people are *(...
[06:02:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cutting out the middlemen - 06IRS Casts Unusually Wide Net for Bitcoin User Data - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:02:04] <exec> 08└─Do you believe the US Constitution is the vehicle which legitimizes taxation? [since all the authority the Constitution has comes from We the People, we figure we'd cut out the middlemen since we apparently have the power to demand a percentage of your production all by ourselves] Why, indeed I do:
[06:02:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not source paper - 06Directed Evolution Creates Enzyme That Can Produce Carbon-Silicon Bonds - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:02:24] <exec> 08└─http://scihub22266oqcxt.onion/http://science.sciencemag.org/content/354/6315/1048.full [scihub22266oqcxt.onion]
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[06:54:39] <exec> 08└─Snow makes his first editorial decision. And it is good. Go, Snow!
[06:54:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Wascally Wabbit - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:54:40] <exec> 08└─What will the Elmer Fudds say about this? That wacky MSM is now supporting Trump and telling journalists to not be journalists? We are in the post-truth world, words mean nothing, everything is a lie... lol what a nit. I see we've got one bite on the ol' spoonfed line.
[06:54:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Reagan again - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:54:42] <exec> 08└─We begin bombing in five minutes.
[06:54:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02if facts don't matter, why should mere words? - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 565 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:54:45] <exec> 08└─I imagine propagandists understand what counts: confirming words. Contrary words are of no more importance than aimless breezes. That catchy little statement about "literally" and "seriously" isn't that great, really. Taking someone seriously doesn't mean being respectful or liking or believing them...
[06:54:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Rules for survival under an autocrat - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 1522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:54:47] <exec> 08└─Rules for survival under an autocrat [nybooks.com]: Rule #1: Believe the autocrat. He means what he says. Whenever you find yourself thinking, or hear others claiming, that he is exaggerating, that is our innate tendency to reach for a rationalization. This will happen often: humans seem to have ev...
[06:54:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Turn it up - 06Research Into Psychedelics Continues - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:54:55] <exec> 08└─I've actually been a proponent of psychedelic research in a clinical setting, but much of it is still tainted by braindead hippies or possibly nefarious MK Ultra associations. Raver culture didn't that much either. While I'm pleased the tide is starting to turn, I fear much of the research will just...
[06:54:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02“as the drug war subsides” - 06Research Into Psychedelics Continues - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:54:57] <exec> 08└─That sounds like an overly optimistic statement. I don’t see the DEA’s budget getting slashed any time soon.
[06:56:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score:2) 02Re:The 'Paywall' is history - 06Treating Antibiotic Resistant Bacteria at the Wastewater Plant - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:56:15] <exec> 08└─mod parent +1 sassy
[06:56:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03charon [5660] (Score:2) 02Re:The 'Paywall' is history - 06Treating Antibiotic Resistant Bacteria at the Wastewater Plant - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:56:16] <exec> 08└─That's a pretty cool idea. Send us a link to your website when you do this.
[06:56:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02War on Terror... or... - 06Elite U.S. Special Operators Build Center for Perpetual War on Terror - 284 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:56:27] <exec> 08└─War *OF* Terror? Funny how quickly one can morph into the other. I now spend more time worried about my own government and its associated international cronies than I do about actual terrorists, who are less likely to kill me than some drunk driver t-boning me on my way to/from work.
[06:58:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Overreaction - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:58:23] <exec> 08└─Anschluß.
[06:58:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Overreaction - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:58:51] <exec> 08└─With President Trump, the White race may finally get a fair shake.
[06:59:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Flag burning side thread - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 628 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:38] <exec> 08└─But the left has absolutely no reason to endure any mansplaining given the previous successes weren't from logical appeals but indoctrination. You'd need some type of framework in order to make re-evaluations instead of gaping hole. Being left-leaning moderate myself (or in the parlance of the left,...
[07:01:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:Cowering in fear - 06Corporations Make Nice With the Donald - 731 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:06] <exec> 08└─Actually, people like you make me very angry. You were warned about Trump, yet you voted for him. Now that he is doing the opposite of what he said he would do, where is your outrage? You wanted change, you are getting more of the same. Yet you don't seem to care. You have saddled the country with s...
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[07:54:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score:2) 02Re:Frost Post! - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:37] <exec> 08└─You know nothing...
[07:54:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Hooray! - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:42] <exec> 08└─We're all gonna get jobs building a wall.
[07:54:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Trump better leans to say what he means - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:54:44] <exec> 08└─Trump better leans to say what he means. Careless speech in international diplomacy can cause great damage. Especially given that there are some country leaders who are very easily offended.
[07:54:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Trump better leans to say what he means - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:47] <exec> 08└─Especially given that there are some country leaders who are very easily offended.
[07:54:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02Re:Trump better leans to say what he means - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:49] <exec> 08└─So he doesn't mean what he says. What does he mean? Is everyone supposed to just *guess*?
[07:54:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Trump better leans to say what he means - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:51] <exec> 08└─Is everyone supposed to just *guess*?
[07:54:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Condensed - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 1351 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:54:53] <exec> 08└─Short version: the left has an impossibly large stick up their ass. Long version: none of the rhetoric matters until there are some policies on the table. Even those who are less than enthused with Trump get he is speaking off-the-cuff, and short of actively looking for gotchas, he is pretty easy to...
[07:54:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Condensed - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:55] <exec> 08└─Long version: none of the rhetoric matters until there are some policies on the table.
[07:54:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Condensed - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 416 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:57] <exec> 08└─You'll excuse me if after miscalling the last election by such an inconceivable margin of error that putting a gerbil in a blender and practicing haruspicy had more credibility if I fail to take seriously any other prognostications from the media about what the future foretells. I'm perfectly capabl...
[07:54:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:Condensed - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:59] <exec> 08└─I'm perfectly capable of reading the situation myself thankyouverymuch, and besides isn't every Republican basically Hitler to the left?
[07:55:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Condensed - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:01] <exec> 08└─When I see arbeit macht frei over the wall Trump is building/not building ("see! You can't trust what he says! Nevermind I was opposed to the wall anyway..."), I will completely recant and beg forgiveness. But at the moment his evil index is slightly lower than the flighty server trying to push appe...
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[07:55:04] <exec> 08└─Actual short version: the right is so please their guy won they didn't even care that he'll say absolutely anything, and did in order to convince you that he's on your side. Don't hold him accountable for anything he says because that's just his shtick. Ha ha, Trumps will say the darnedest things.
[07:55:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Re:Condensed - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:06] <exec> 08└─Actual short version: the right is so please their guy won
[07:55:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Tiny hands! - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 730 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:55:08] <exec> 08└─First: we cannot take Trump seriously because he has tiny hands. Even more so since he is upset about accusations of tiny hands. Second: Tiny hands suggest diminished blood flow to extremities, so if your hands are tiny. . . Yes, all about the subtext. But Third, if your blood flow to your extremi...
[07:55:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02I don't get this line of thinking - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 980 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:55:10] <exec> 08└─"President-elect Trump still takes the same cavalier approach to verbal description as he would in hawking a condo tower that's yet to be designed." Is this supposed to make it better? Marketroids are one of the most universally despised segments of humanity, because their words cannot be trusted. S...
[07:55:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Unintended Consequences - 06Hacker Dishes Advanced Phishing Kit to Hook Clever Staff in 10 Mins - 2514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:55:32] <exec> 08└─Businesses have brought this on themselves. By listening and taking advice from the wrong people. From my chair, I see businesses obsessed with the illusion of making a fast buck, while ignorant of the technology and its potential for misuse. On the internet, the only thing a business had for themse...
[07:55:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Easy to believe - 06Native Americans Possibly Raising Turkeys Long Before the First Thanksgiving - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:44] <exec> 08└─Hard to have a "happy thanksgiving" with Standing Rock going on.
[07:55:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:re They KNEW - 06Native Americans Possibly Raising Turkeys Long Before the First Thanksgiving - 1535 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:53] <exec> 08└─Not sure what schools you all went to. But when I was going through school (27 currently) I was taught to great extent that every white person personally assisted in the willful genocide of the native peoples. Going out of their way to truck them out of whatever goods and land they had in exchange f...
[07:56:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Ayn Anonymous [5012] 02The 'Paywall' is history - 06Treating Antibiotic Resistant Bacteria at the Wastewater Plant - 359 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:56:36] <exec> 08└─http://pubs.acs.org.sci-hub.cc/doi/pdf/10.1021/acs.est.6b02640 [sci-hub.cc] Can you please stop behave like an idiot ? The sci-hub project exist to give everyone free access to knowledge. The permanent concealment of the sci-hub project does it not make go away. Supporting them is the right thing to...
[07:56:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:The 'Paywall' is history - 06Treating Antibiotic Resistant Bacteria at the Wastewater Plant - 523 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:41] <exec> 08└─Charon hit the nail on the head. Napster fought and lost. This is a battle SN will not win. Best pick our battles wisely. This one is not winnable. The best we can hope for is someone else posts a sci-hub link, so SN is not responsible for it. If SN gets their head chopped off, we ALL lose. For...
[07:56:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It just gets worse come Jan 20 - 06Elite U.S. Special Operators Build Center for Perpetual War on Terror - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:58] <exec> 08└─Volkswagon + anarchist chicken = dead bird That's why you respect the rules of the road when you are crossing the street.
[07:58:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kenny Blankenship [5712] (Score:1) 02I didn't notice Fnord666... - 06Hello and Welcome - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:58:11] <exec> 08└─I didn't notice Fnord666. I also didn't see Fnord666. I think there's a typo or something, but I can't quite put my finger on it.
[07:58:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Overreaction - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:58:52] <exec> 08└─You do know there are at least 6 continents and internet is not a north American thing? Choosing Canada looks like navel gazing from the world outside of North America.
[07:59:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Democracy Not Necessary - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:59:00] <exec> 08└─When they see a 'democracy' is no better than all the other corrupt regimes, who is surprised by this?
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[08:54:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Meet fire with fire... - 06Top German Spy Warns of Political Cyberattacks, Russia Links - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:54:40] <exec> 08└─... declare cyber-war on Russia and annihilate their infrastructure? Western powers *should* be able to wipe the floor with Russia in this field. E.g. set up a Great Cannon of California a la Great Cannon of China... but they need to resolve to act. More amusing of course, would be to make sure Puti...
[08:54:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03tathra [3367] 02Rules for survival under an autocrat - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 1522 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:54:53] <exec> 08└─Rules for survival under an autocrat [nybooks.com]: Rule #1: Believe the autocrat. He means what he says. Whenever you find yourself thinking, or hear others claiming, that he is exaggerating, that is our innate tendency to reach for a rationalization. This will happen often: humans seem to have ev...
[08:54:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:Rules for survival under an autocrat - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 878 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:54:55] <exec> 08└─I don't know what the New York TImes was saying in the 1930s, but in 1922 they said: Several reliable, well-informed sources confirmed the idea that Hitler's anti-Semitism was not so genuine or violent as it sounded, and that he was merely using anti-Semitic propaganda as a bait to catch masses of...
[08:55:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Like this is the first politician to talk crap. - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 1509 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:55:10] <exec> 08└─"How do you tell when a politician is lying?" "His lips are moving." News flash: that joke was old when I was young. Think he's the first politician to throw up walls of bullshit? It's about presenting an image, not crystalline visions of perfect truth. The same people who tend to think that Slick W...
[08:55:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Dear nuke "football" don't take him literally - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 1040 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:55:11] <exec> 08└─That only works if everyone else doesn't take him literally or even better- can ignore him. Unfortunately that's not the case.: http://www.businessinsider.com [businessinsider.com] The US President can unilaterally launch a nuclear strike. According to...
[08:55:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Dear nuke "football" don't take him literally - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:55:13] <exec> 08└─Not sure how things are now though.
[08:55:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03istartedi [123] (Score:2) 02n1, you should be ashamed of yourself - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:55:15] <exec> 08└─n1, you should be ashamed of yourself for submitting this article. This is the kind of story that will ruin SoylentNews. You ought to be banned immediately. Maybe then we can get down to the business of making SN great again. BTW, would you like to help? You would make an excellent chief of staff.
[08:55:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:“as the drug war subsides” - 06Research Into Psychedelics Continues - 802 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:55:25] <exec> 08└─Just to add to this, If anything the war on drugs is about to get worse. The DEA (and local police forces) see the writing on the wall as far as marijuana legalization is concerned and they are ramping up their seizures and use of RICO laws before they can't do it anymore. And if you think the DEA i...
[08:59:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Overreaction - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:59:46] <exec> 08└─Chip on your shoulder much? The NDP were the official opposition party from 2011 until last year's elections.
[09:00:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Overreaction - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:00:05] <exec> 08└─That's a very charitable interpretation of their actions, and you could do that with pretty much any issue to make one party seem spotless.
[09:00:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Be Anonymous - 06Firefox Zero-Day Exploit is Being Used to Attack Tor Users - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:00:53] <exec> 08└─I always liked 0xDEADBEEFCAFE
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[09:54:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02Yeah right. - 06Top German Spy Warns of Political Cyberattacks, Russia Links - 738 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:54:41] <exec> 08└─What is the purpose of this? Is this another butthurt Hillary supporter? Why just the DNC why not the GOP? The GOP has magic routers with no unprotected maintenance ports? What routers what models? When and where? Until I see a list of affected models and a fucking youtube video of someone unboxing...
[09:55:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Like this is the first politician to talk crap. - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:55:14] <exec> 08└─There is absolutely no prospect of him turning Congress into his pet poodles - not even the republicans, despite their cautious (reluctant) determination to work with him.
[09:55:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Like this is the first politician to talk crap. - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 412 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:55:15] <exec> 08└─Ya, they kiss his ass cause that's what an egomaniac needs to feel powerful. Then they mock him behind their back, but they don't have much moral fibre left so what do they care? Hey, maybe he'll be able to get some things done with his blusterous attitude and relying on his public supporters to giv...
[09:55:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03tfried [5534] (Score:2) 02Post-journalism - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 1587 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:55:20] <exec> 08└─Ok, I get this part: It's the economy, stupid. Yes, that has been the winning factor for elections (re-elections, in particular) since way before 1992. What else is new? Journalism is somehow to blame for trying to cover what politicians are planning to do, and the potential side effects of that. Be...
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[09:55:31] <exec> 08└─Thing is, "You/your car/your house/etc smells like weed", has been the go-to bullshit excuse to justify illegal searches for decades, how are they going to justify it when weed is legal and it can no longer be used as an excuse to conduct an illegal and unconstitutional search? Marijuana legalizatio...
[09:57:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:It just gets worse come Jan 20 - 06Elite U.S. Special Operators Build Center for Perpetual War on Terror - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:57:14] <exec> 08└─I suppose it would cost something to transport the prisoners back to their home countries, or (failing that) whichever countries will take them. If they were released to Cuba or the United States, it shouldn't cost anything. Someone could raise the needed money privately, could they not? In 2012, Mr...
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[10:00:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Flag burning side thread - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:00:20] <exec> 08└─You should have posted non-AC, I would have befriended you. The lack of framework is very much a reality. Instead, left has embraced propaganda and censorship. I said this here a long time ago, but left is the new conservative. In gutting the actual dissenters of establishment, it has allowed right...
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[10:00:51] <exec> 08└─Well, I'm unique at a similar level (unique among the 255876 collected so far), but looking on the breakdown it's mostly because of my language preferences. 18.27% have no JS, but 0.1% share my language preferences. Then there's my User Agent, shared by only 0.48%. I guess those two already make me...
[10:01:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:OS limitation - 06Firefox Zero-Day Exploit is Being Used to Attack Tor Users - 429 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:01:00] <exec> 08└─I don't want to feel smug, I want to feel safe. Well, in this case NoScript already means that I'm mostly safe, but then, there's a slight chance that such code gets served by one of the few whitelisted sites, so the extra security from not using the targeted operating system is nice. Given that thi...
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[10:54:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02SIM808 modules... - 06Raspberry Pi 3 Gets Low-Bandwidth LTE with Add-on Chip - 1569 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:54:42] <exec> 08└─Just in case anyone wants SMS messaging via Arduino, look up SIM808 modules. You get both the GSM cellphone access and GPS locator functions in one module that you setup via a serial line much like the old Hayes modems... I am experimenting with some so I can put my van on a cellphone line so it wil...
[10:54:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03rob_on_earth [5485] (Score:2) 02No Story - 06Raspberry Pi 3 Gets Low-Bandwidth LTE with Add-on Chip - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:54:44] <exec> 08└─from TFA There is no plan right now to integrate LTE directly into Raspberry Pi, said Upton. So users will have to buy third-party modems like Altair's LTE chipset and attach them to the board. how is this different from any other add-on board?
[10:55:07] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03butthurt [6141] 02Re:Rules for survival under an autocrat - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 878 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:55:07] <exec> 08└─I don't know what the New York TImes was saying in the 1930s, but in 1922 they said: Several reliable, well-informed sources confirmed the idea that Hitler's anti-Semitism was not so genuine or violent as it sounded, and that he was merely using anti-Semitic propaganda as a bait to catch masses of...
[10:55:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03bd [2773] (Score:2) 02Re:Condensed - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 1379 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:55:18] <exec> 08└─The guy is nothing like Hitler, but his election campaign rethoric was. The reason Hitler got as many votes as he got: * He was leading a very modern campaign, using an airplane (in a place as small as Germany) to move around quickly and speak in as many venues as possible. Very similar to American...
[10:55:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02I don't get this line of thinking - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 980 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:55:23] <exec> 08└─"President-elect Trump still takes the same cavalier approach to verbal description as he would in hawking a condo tower that's yet to be designed." Is this supposed to make it better? Marketroids are one of the most universally despised segments of humanity, because their words cannot be trusted. S...
[10:55:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:Like this is the first politician to talk crap. - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:55:29] <exec> 08└─>Hey, maybe he'll be able to get some things done with his blusterous attitude and relying on his public supporters to give him attention. Or maybe he'll be incredibly ineffective and it will be a huge power grab for every republican. Or maybe he'll have enough power and influence to royally fuck th...
[10:55:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Like this is the first politician to talk crap. - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:55:31] <exec> 08└─The fact is that he's a safety valve. If he drains the metaphorical swamp, some pressure will blow off. But if he wraps it up tighter for the elites, we may be looking at civil war - and the ones who rise up will not love him then.
[10:55:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:n1, you should be ashamed of yourself - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:55:36] <exec> 08└─istartedi, somebody has to submit stories that are not about graphene or Tesla, and which do not contain bad puns, silly sci-fi/fantasy references, or inane jokes/questions.
[10:55:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Post-journalism - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 528 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:55:39] <exec> 08└─"Journalism?" What is that? I have a vague recollection of a time when there were people that checked facts, tried really hard not to inject their personal feelings into it, and called 'bullshit' on everybody. But it's so long ago that anymore I wonder if it was from a former life or a rose-tinted c...
[10:56:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Of course - 06Native Americans Possibly Raising Turkeys Long Before the First Thanksgiving - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:56:25] <exec> 08└─Of course they raised them already before Thanksgiving. If they only started raising them at Thanksgiving, they wouldn't be ready to be eaten!
[10:57:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bleach - 06Treating Antibiotic Resistant Bacteria at the Wastewater Plant - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:57:13] <exec> 08└─When chlorine/bleach is used there's a step after it to neutralize it.
[10:57:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:War on Terror... or... - 06Elite U.S. Special Operators Build Center for Perpetual War on Terror - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:57:25] <exec> 08└─We've always been at war with Eurasia^W terrorists.
[10:57:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It just gets worse come Jan 20 - 06Elite U.S. Special Operators Build Center for Perpetual War on Terror - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:57:31] <exec> 08└─Volkswagon + anarchist chickon = doad bird
[10:57:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:It just gets worse come Jan 20 - 06Elite U.S. Special Operators Build Center for Perpetual War on Terror - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:57:37] <exec> 08└─[...] when it all goes south, it's always those meddling [R]epublicans getting in the way.
[10:59:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Overreaction - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:59:28] <exec> 08└─You do know there are at least 6 continents
[11:00:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Overreaction - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:00:09] <exec> 08└─He's almost right about the spelling of "back-pedaling"!
[11:00:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Overreaction - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:00:10] <exec> 08└─http://www.thefreedictionary.com/backpedaling [thefreedictionary.com]
[11:01:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:dinossaurs - 06ATM Insert Skimmers: A Closer Look - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:01:46] <exec> 08└─In America, PINs are for ATM cards.
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[11:54:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Code is Law - 06California Courts Software Causing Wrongful Arrests and Extended Custody - 552 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:54:41] <exec> 08└─> people wrongfully arrested, held in prison longer than required and in several cases mistakenly told they must register as sex offenders. Lots of geeks like to fantasize about how great the world would be if we just let computers make all the hard decisions. Well, this exactly what you can expect...
[11:54:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:SIM808 modules... - 06Raspberry Pi 3 Gets Low-Bandwidth LTE with Add-on Chip - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:54:49] <exec> 08└─isn't that a very low speed service that's not going to be kept on for much longer, in the US?
[11:54:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Clickbait fail - 06Raspberry Pi 3 Gets Low-Bandwidth LTE with Add-on Chip - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:54:52] <exec> 08└─You didn't say "internet of things." Tsk.
[11:55:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03tfried [5534] (Score:2) 02Re:Yeah right. - 06Top German Spy Warns of Political Cyberattacks, Russia Links - 555 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:55:04] <exec> 08└─Well, I wouldn't trust an intelligence chief on anything, so don't consider me convinced. But the guy isn't stupid. First, of course, the "cyberattack" he's talking about is leaking the DNC mails to Wikileaks, not to Trump, directly. No doubt that "hack" occurred. Second, Putin was very, very open a...
[11:55:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Condensed - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:55:34] <exec> 08└─The left elected Obama. TWICE. You are also chromatically challenged pot.
[11:55:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dear nuke "football" don't take him literally - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:55:45] <exec> 08└─The US Military weeds out those who would question orders from the President aka "not take things literally"
[11:55:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Trump's Bullshit is Distraction from Policy - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 1177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:55:51] <exec> 08└─Trump is an attention-whore. He prefers adoration, but outrage is almost as good. His "victory tour" is a literal ego-trip around the country because he's addicted to the attention. Don't play into his game. He made the election all about his reality-tv persona and he will continue to do that as pre...
[11:55:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Oh look - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:55:53] <exec> 08└─Just an excuse to try to justify bullshit. If Trump says something he does not mean, that means he's a fucking liar. There's nothing else to it.
[11:56:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:Turn it up - 06Research Into Psychedelics Continues - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:56:02] <exec> 08└─so, um, its: drugs are good, m'kay ? ? ?
[11:59:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Overreaction - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:59:43] <exec> 08└─Agreed, Mexico is connected to the Internet too.
[12:00:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Overreaction - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:00:30] <exec> 08└─I've been doing community outreach for a few years now
[12:00:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Overreaction - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 436 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:00:47] <exec> 08└─Putting classified information on an unsecured system is. Lesser people, peons, have been prosecuted for doing that. Why is she excused from obeying the laws that others have done jail time for breaking? They were "extremely careless," too, but were not given a pass. Of course, if you do not accept...
[12:00:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Overreaction - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:00:51] <exec> 08└─And, if as head of the CIA Patreaus didn't have the "juice" as you say to keep from being prosecuted, how the hell did Hillary Clinton become so powerful? I'd say SecState and DCI are approximately equal on the power scale.
[12:01:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Have you looked at TBBs defaults? - 06Firefox Zero-Day Exploit is Being Used to Attack Tor Users - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:01:14] <exec> 08└─I tried Tor Browser with JavaScript disabled. That site said "But only 1492 browsers out of the 256023 observed browsers (0.58 %) have exactly the same fingerprint as yours."
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[12:01:24] <exec> 08└─It's implemented in Wine: https://source.winehq.org [winehq.org]
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[12:54:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Code is Law - 06California Courts Software Causing Wrongful Arrests and Extended Custody - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:54:34] <exec> 08└─We are all Harry Buttle.
[12:54:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02With Great Data ... - 06California Courts Software Causing Wrongful Arrests and Extended Custody - 464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:35] <exec> 08└─With important data like this comes great responsibility. The software company blaming "training" is laughable considering they are the company providing the training on their own software. I realize that I'm a dinosaur but back in the day replacing mission critical legacy systems included running p...
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[12:54:46] <exec> 08└─I've thought about the same thing but you took it further with the transmission disable, fuel pump and blinking lights. Good ideas. I was originally thinking about just location and ignition status. I also though about how to implement it in my old Mack truck, all mechanical diesel and transmission....
[12:54:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Meet fire with fire... - 06Top German Spy Warns of Political Cyberattacks, Russia Links - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:54:57] <exec> 08└─...voting machines.
[12:55:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] 02Wascally Wabbit - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 269 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:55:11] <exec> 08└─What will the Elmer Fudds say about this? That wacky MSM is now supporting Trump and telling journalists to not be journalists? We are in the post-truth world, words mean nothing, everything is a lie... lol what a nit. I see we've got one bite on the ol' spoonfed line.
[12:55:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03weeds [611] (Score:2) 02Re:I don't get this line of thinking - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:34] <exec> 08└─We need a higher mod than 5! In a nutshell, "Trump is a bullshit artist so the press better stop reporting what he says. It's the fault of the press for not recognizing this." Have we all lost our minds?
[12:55:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Dear nuke "football" don't take him literally - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:43] <exec> 08└─Woodrow Wilson suffered a series of strokes; after the most serious one, his wife Edith secretly took over the president's duties. http://www.pbs.org [pbs.org] https://www.whitehouse.gov [whitehouse.gov]
[12:55:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02It's a bit like Brexit in the UK - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 1487 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:50] <exec> 08└─It's a bit like Brexit in the UK: Some people are now saying: "You see! Don't be so frightened. It's six months after Brexit, and nothing bad has happened yet!" Where they ignore the fact that Brexit hasn't begun yet (May said she would maybe kinda probably leave the EU in March 2017. Depending on a...
[12:55:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Oh look! Kellyanne went rogue - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:55:54] <exec> 08└─Forget about the fact that the President-elect has paid $0 in Federal taxes for 20 years, by claiming a tax writeoff on other people's lost money that his own lawyers advised him not to take.
[12:56:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03edIII [791] 02Easy to believe - 06Native Americans Possibly Raising Turkeys Long Before the First Thanksgiving - 2094 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:56:27] <exec> 08└─It isn't difficult at all to live alongside Turkeys. Amazingly funny and expressive creatures, they can grow fond of human interaction. Of course, corn helps. Helps a lot, and will even turn them into little stalkers that will knock their beaks on your window in the morning. I can see Tonto getting...
[12:56:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:And of course... - 06Native Americans Possibly Raising Turkeys Long Before the First Thanksgiving - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:37] <exec> 08└─I'm glad you pointed that out. The popular American imagination has discounted Native Americans generally, but it has also idealized certain aspects thinking that made it all better.
[12:56:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Little thought . . . - 06Native Americans Possibly Raising Turkeys Long Before the First Thanksgiving - 861 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:43] <exec> 08└─Settled, urban societies that practiced agriculture, engaged in extensive trade networks, and had social hierarchy were even more extensive than that. The Anasazi/Puebloans across the Southwest built many cities whose ruins you can visit today, and who lived from fields irrigated with wadis. The Mis...
[12:58:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sold out :( - 06Jigsaw-Like Puzzle That Maps to a Klein Bottle and Can be Constructed in Multiple Ways - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:58:27] <exec> 08└─Of course that's not a true Klein bottle, as it intersects itself. A true Klein bottle would avoid that by going to the fourth dimension.
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[13:54:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02It isn't? - 06The Frozen Banana Republic - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:54:43] <exec> 08└─A rumor has circulated for the last 60 years proclaiming Iceland to be the banana capital of Europe. Spoiler alert: It's not
[13:54:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:It isn't? - 06The Frozen Banana Republic - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:54:45] <exec> 08└─They also grow tomatoes and I have heard they are exporting to Europe. Older article, so I assume they are exporting: http://icelandreview.com [icelandreview.com]
[13:54:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Not so fast - 06The Frozen Banana Republic - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:54:47] <exec> 08└─Now we have all we need to colonize Antarctica.
[13:54:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Code is Law - 06California Courts' Software Causing Wrongful Arrests and Extended Custody - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:54:57] <exec> 08└─That is a legal and bureaucratic problem. The computers are incidental.
[13:54:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:With Great Data ... - 06California Courts' Software Causing Wrongful Arrests and Extended Custody - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:55:00] <exec> 08└─With important data like this comes great responsibility.
[13:55:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormreaver [5101] (Score:2) 02Tyler - 06California Courts' Software Causing Wrongful Arrests and Extended Custody - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:55:02] <exec> 08└─The moment I saw which software maker was involved, it all made sense. My experience with Tyler is that its software is uniformly bad.
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[13:55:13] <exec> 08└─Altair has completed testing of its ALT1160 Category 1 LTE chip on Raspberry Pi, and is making it available, a company representative said.
[13:56:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Like this is the first politician to talk crap. - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 518 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:56:07] <exec> 08└─Hope not. While the elites are most definitely on the chopping block, so will their handmaidens. And that will include a huge swath of liberals for little more than being useful idiots, which will have the flavor of the Reign of Terror. It won't be worth the effort to separate the evil from the mere...
[13:56:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03purple_cobra [1435] (Score:1) 02Re:Unintended Consequences - 06Hacker Dishes Advanced Phishing Kit to Hook Clever Staff in 10 Mins - 1039 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:56:46] <exec> 08└─Old man shouts at cloud! But seriously, it is a problem. A few sites I used to frequent and comment on either changed hands or changed design and ended-up with some unholy abomination like LiveFyre or Disqus, both of which seem to slurp in scripts from about 10 different hosts, plus the usual ad ser...
[13:57:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03ewk [5923] (Score:1) 02Re:re They KNEW - 06Native Americans Possibly Raising Turkeys Long Before the First Thanksgiving - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:57:07] <exec> 08└─"The native Americans had turkeys, no need to dig anything to find out" Yeah, except that Cortés dropped by a about 1000 years later (400-500 AD to post-1500 AD). So... even if the natives Americans kept turkeys in 1500 AD, that does not tell you much about 400-500 AD.
[13:58:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thesis [524] (Score:2) 02Not cheap - 06Treating Antibiotic Resistant Bacteria at the Wastewater Plant - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:58:02] <exec> 08└─I am intimately familiar with water treatment. Ozone generation is expensive, and dangerous. Chlorination is the preferred method of most treatment plants for disinfection. This is simply due to cost more than anything.
[13:58:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It just gets worse come Jan 20 - 06Elite U.S. Special Operators Build Center for Perpetual War on Terror - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:58:19] <exec> 08└─An Anarchist and a Christian? Christianity demands obedience to a higher power, Anarchy contends there is no higher power.
[13:58:24] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bob_super [1357] 02Re:It just gets worse come Jan 20 - 06Elite U.S. Special Operators Build Center for Perpetual War on Terror - 202 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:58:24] <exec> 08└─Trump will negotiate with Raul to outsource torture and privatize Gitmo, in exchange for a new Havana casino. Who else offers such a convenient location and extensive experience in arbitrary detentions?
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[14:02:32] <exec> 08└─Early adoption problem? Chip and PIN has been the norm in the UK for a long time now and as stated by other posters, there's no delay at all: stick card in reader, tap in code, wait a second or two and it's all authorised. They use some ancient dial-up - you can actually hear the modem! - system in...
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[14:54:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:It isn't? - 06The Frozen Banana Republic - 1406 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:54:46] <exec> 08└─They've been doing this for years and it was well established when I first visited Iceland over a decade ago, albeit for mostly local consumption, as it's a cheaper way to get fresh fruit and veg than importing it from North America and Europe. Hveragerði, the town in TFA, is just off the N1 road o...
[14:54:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02If they brought in monkeys to eat the bananas - 06The Frozen Banana Republic - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:54:49] <exec> 08└─And gave each of them access to a laptop computer, it would take a lot less time for one of them to fortuitously type one tweet from realDonaldTrump, compared to even a full sonnet from Shakespeare.
[14:54:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Temperatures - 06The Frozen Banana Republic - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:54:51] <exec> 08└─With average temperatures registering between 32 Fahrenheit in winter and a tepid 50 at the height of summer,
[14:54:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Iceland is awesome - 06The Frozen Banana Republic - 1011 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:54:53] <exec> 08└─Some of the many reasons Iceland is a fantastic place: - They run almost entirely on geothermal energy, so they aren't hooked into the global oil / gas system in anywhere near the same degree as almost everybody else in the developed world. - They had a democratic institution, the Althing, going all...
[14:54:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Re:Iceland is awesome - 06The Frozen Banana Republic - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:54:55] <exec> 08└─Maybe their belief in elves is why they're doing so well. Even though Leprechauns sound much more profitable, the Irish have always been poor buggers. Just sayin'.
[14:55:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Webweasel [567] (Score:2) 02Re:Code is Law - 06California Courts' Software Causing Wrongful Arrests and Extended Custody - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:55:05] <exec> 08└─Sorry, I'm a bit of a stickler for paperwork. Where would we be if we didn't follow the correct procedures? Have you filled in form 27b/6?
[14:55:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:With Great Data ... - 06California Courts' Software Causing Wrongful Arrests and Extended Custody - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:55:10] <exec> 08└─Neither the decision makers, the user base, nor the developer company are going to risk jail time for "routine" failures like this.
[14:55:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02finger pointing - 06California Courts' Software Causing Wrongful Arrests and Extended Custody - 987 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:55:12] <exec> 08└─Finger pointing is one of the classic methods for dodging responsibility. > If there was a risk to anyone of any importance There probably is, but it's roundabout. Someone will have to sue over being wrongfully imprisoned or labeled a sex offender. The government will realize it can't win, settle ou...
[14:55:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:With Great Data ... - 06California Courts' Software Causing Wrongful Arrests and Extended Custody - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:55:15] <exec> 08└─I realize that I'm a dinosaur but back in the day replacing mission critical legacy systems included running parallel for at least one quarter (as long as it wasn't the 4th quarter) and sometimes up to a year. Sure it cost more, but getting things right isn't cheap or easy.
[14:55:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:Wascally Wabbit - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:55:52] <exec> 08└─brawndo, its what plants crave! we are not very far from that. scary close to that, in fact. we thought bush was the ultimate in dumbing down of america, but we were wrong. a new bottom has been defined and I fear we will see it being reached and lowered even more ;(
[14:56:07] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bd [2773] 02Re:Condensed - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 1379 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:56:07] <exec> 08└─The guy is nothing like Hitler, but his election campaign rethoric was. The reason Hitler got as many votes as he got: * He was leading a very modern campaign, using an airplane (in a place as small as Germany) to move around quickly and speak in as many venues as possible. Very similar to American...
[14:56:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Condensed - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:56:10] <exec> 08└─like Drumpf
[14:56:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Condensed - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:56:12] <exec> 08└─It was his actual family name. We're not allowed to be irreverent anymore?
[14:56:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:n1, you should be ashamed of yourself - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:56:32] <exec> 08└─But why? Sure I'll accept them occasional BREAKING earthquake story, where we talk about architecture and geology, but overall I'm fine with the basket of deplorable topics you mentioned.
[14:56:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oh look - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:56:38] <exec> 08└─Isn't it funny how for DECADES the number one campaign tactic of the Republicans was the "flip-flop" accusation? Now they're saying "hey, it's no big deal!".
[14:56:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oh look! Kellyanne went rogue - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:56:41] <exec> 08└─OK, he did pay no taxes. But to compensate, he did it for a very long time. :-)
[14:57:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02Re: No Subject - 06Nitrogen in Ancient Rocks a Sign of Early Life - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:57:00] <exec> 08└─Can't wait until this new technique works its way into Ancient Aliens. "Chemical analysis inside the pyramids of Egypt suggest that living creatures had farted here millions of years before the pyramids were said to be built. Coincidence? You decide."
[14:57:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Turkeys away! - 06Native Americans Possibly Raising Turkeys Long Before the First Thanksgiving - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:57:36] <exec> 08└─As God is my witness, I swear I thought turkeys could fly!
[14:58:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:It just gets worse come Jan 20 - 06Elite U.S. Special Operators Build Center for Perpetual War on Terror - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:58:45] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_anarchism [wikipedia.org]
[14:58:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:It just gets worse come Jan 20 - 06Elite U.S. Special Operators Build Center for Perpetual War on Terror - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:58:46] <exec> 08└─I don't believe in human beings ruling over each other. Nor do I believe in human beings enforcing the rule of Christ.
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[15:54:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:3, Insightful) 02patches - 06More Than 1 Million Google Accounts Breached by Gooligan Malware - 477 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:54:40] <exec> 08└─It's not so much the monoculture that's the problem, it's the fact that the handset manufacturers lose interest in the devices 10 minutes after they've been sold and won't release updates and patches to customers, instead pushing them to buy more new and shiny. Google should mandate that in order to...
[15:54:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:patches - 06More Than 1 Million Google Accounts Breached by Gooligan Malware - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:54:41] <exec> 08└─It's not so much the monoculture that's the problem, it's the fact that the handset manufacturers lose interest in the devices 10 minutes after they've been sold
[15:54:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sourcery42 [6400] (Score:1) 02Re:patches - 06More Than 1 Million Google Accounts Breached by Gooligan Malware - 558 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:54:44] <exec> 08└─Couldn't agree more. It would be nice if Google would make guaranteed, timely updates one of the terms for an OEM to sell a phone with Google Play Services on it. This is a spot where open source shines. I have a 2012 phone that the manufacturer hasn't pushed an update to since 2013. Thanks to the d...
[15:54:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fnord666 [652] (Score:2) 02Queue the Victim Blaming - 06More Than 1 Million Google Accounts Breached by Gooligan Malware - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:54:46] <exec> 08└─Queue the victim blaming posts in 3...2...1...
[15:54:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Queue the Victim Blaming - 06More Than 1 Million Google Accounts Breached by Gooligan Malware - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:54:48] <exec> 08└─You're right. People are going to blame those poor hackers who are just victims of those evil people who leave the phones unsecured, begging to be hacked. Just look at the patches they're wearing.
[15:54:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Just an effect of giving acess to the washed - 06More Than 1 Million Google Accounts Breached by Gooligan Malware - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:54:50] <exec> 08└─All these people that take showers on a regular basis are really mucking up computer technologies the solution is simple if you take more than 1 shower a week you should be forbidden from possession of anything with a chip in it.
[15:55:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Iceland is awesome - 06The Frozen Banana Republic - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:55:05] <exec> 08└─Bugger all that. How are the girls?
[15:55:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Iceland is awesome - 06The Frozen Banana Republic - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:55:06] <exec> 08└─Well, they're white Scandinavians.
[15:55:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Code is Law - 06California Courts' Software Causing Wrongful Arrests and Extended Custody - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:55:19] <exec> 08└─While that is true, it is irrelevant. People may feel much more comfortable doing things that a trustworthy machine tells them to do, without questioning. The corporate overlords may be able to manipulate the instructions the machines give to the people who carry out those instructions. Nevertheless...
[15:55:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:Code is Law - 06California Courts' Software Causing Wrongful Arrests and Extended Custody - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:55:20] <exec> 08└─Lots of geeks like to fantasize about how great the world would be if we just let computers make all the hard decisions.
[15:55:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Code is Law - 06California Courts' Software Causing Wrongful Arrests and Extended Custody - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:55:22] <exec> 08└─Lots of geeks like to fantasize about how great the world would be if we just let computers make all the hard decisions.
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[15:55:28] <exec> 08└─You mean free to use binding arbitration that streamlines the rigged process?
[15:55:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:finger pointing - 06California Courts' Software Causing Wrongful Arrests and Extended Custody - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:55:31] <exec> 08└─There probably is, but it's roundabout. Someone will have to sue over being wrongfully imprisoned or labeled a sex offender. The government will realize it can't win, settle out of court, and
[15:55:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:finger pointing - 06California Courts' Software Causing Wrongful Arrests and Extended Custody - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:55:33] <exec> 08└─Why is it so inconceivable to just admit "we were wrong?" Because more people would come out of the woodwork to sue them and there'd be more paperwork?
[15:55:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Software Bug Ticket - 06California Courts' Software Causing Wrongful Arrests and Extended Custody - 678 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:55:37] <exec> 08└─Will Not Fix. Working As Intended. The impact of this software issue is minor. In most cases, people are unnecessarily imprisoned for only short periods of time. It's a feature, not a bug. The User Story for this feature is that it results in lower cell vacancy and thus better cell utilization in Fo...
[15:55:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Software Bug Ticket - 06California Courts' Software Causing Wrongful Arrests and Extended Custody - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:55:39] <exec> 08└─Actually, my understanding is that for California prisons the problem is that they are overcrowded to the point where they had to release some pot users in order to make room for more serious offenders. That also turned into a major motivator for legalizing weed.
[15:55:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03dlb [4790] (Score:2) 02Re:SIM808 modules... - 06Raspberry Pi 3 Gets Low-Bandwidth LTE with Add-on Chip - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:55:50] <exec> 08└─Bravo for coming up with a useful geek invention. Once you get it working, if it doesn't go against SN submission policy, it would make a great story to post. It would be fun to read how you did it, and to maybe post questions, comments and suggestions.
[15:56:03] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03jasassin [3566] 02Yeah right. - 06Top German Spy Warns of Political Cyberattacks, Russia Links - 738 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:56:03] <exec> 08└─What is the purpose of this? Is this another butthurt Hillary supporter? Why just the DNC why not the GOP? The GOP has magic routers with no unprotected maintenance ports? What routers what models? When and where? Until I see a list of affected models and a fucking youtube video of someone unboxing...
[15:56:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yeah right. - 06Top German Spy Warns of Political Cyberattacks, Russia Links - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:56:05] <exec> 08└─“Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.” - Sun Tzu
[15:56:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yeah right. - 06Top German Spy Warns of Political Cyberattacks, Russia Links - 893 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:56:07] <exec> 08└─I think you got some of the dynamics working in the background here. Germany has a problem, because during the Obama / Merkel reigns, the German government has hitched their wagon tightly to the policies of their American masters. So tightly that I think Germany had more independence in the 1980s. T...
[15:56:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02This just in: - 06Top German Spy Warns of Political Cyberattacks, Russia Links - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:56:09] <exec> 08└─Russia hacking computers to affect elections whose outcomes result in a more peaceful world. Military-Industrial Complex and their puppets outraged.
[15:56:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02nice - 06Top German Spy Warns of Political Cyberattacks, Russia Links - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:56:12] <exec> 08└─So, I guess if the elections make you win all is OK, if you lose it's them Russians, so I guess a coup to re establish ORDER is the next step? Shall the new secret police be called gestapo or stasi?
[15:56:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Wascally Wabbit - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:56:25] <exec> 08└─The person whose primary job is to speak on behalf of the American public is a complete liar. What could possibly go wrong?
[15:56:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Reagan again - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:56:27] <exec> 08└─After January, such a thing will never be said by Our Dear Leader. It will be tweeted instead. Idea: incoming administration should modernize nuclear launch system for the 21st century so it is possible to give launch orders via Twitter.
[15:56:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:if facts don't matter, why should mere words? - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:56:30] <exec> 08└─If we should stop taking words seriously, then should we stop taking executive orders seriously? What about taking nuclear launch orders seriously? Especially when they are issues at 3 AM between tweets?
[15:56:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hooray! - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:56:35] <exec> 08└─Let me know how great it is to build that wall after they line you up against it.
[15:56:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Trump better leans to say what he means - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:56:42] <exec> 08└─Trump shoots from the lip without checking his "ammo".
[15:56:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score:2) 02Re:Condensed - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:56:53] <exec> 08└─It was his actual family name. We're not allowed to be irreverent anymore?
[15:56:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Condensed - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:56:55] <exec> 08└─opinionated morons
[15:56:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Condensed - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:56:59] <exec> 08└─That's a mandate buddy. ... Oh, wait, we have the election as proof. Yeah, 2.3 million more people voting for Clinton is clearly a mandate for Trump.
[15:57:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Like this is the first politician to talk crap. - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:57:11] <exec> 08└─Trump has meant we got a few weeks to watch the elites shit their pants. Yeah, all those elites being handed cabinet positions are shitting their pants as we speak.
[15:57:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:n1, you should be ashamed of yourself - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:57:19] <exec> 08└─...do not contain bad puns, silly sci-fi/fantasy references, or inane jokes/questions. Unfortunately, Trump is a physical embodiment of all those things.
[15:57:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:n1, you should be ashamed of yourself - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:57:22] <exec> 08└─It's infuriating. But, it's also True. I like the story. There was an open call for editors the other day, by the way, instead of bitching why don't you choose stories yourself?
[15:58:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03dwilson [2599] (Score:1) 02Re:This is a big deal in Canada - 06Trudeau Cabinet Approves Trans Mountain, Line 3 Pipelines, Rejects Northern Gateway - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:58:29] <exec> 08└─Overall, unfortunately, I think this was pretty much a no-win situation for Trudeau. No matter what the decisions were, there would be very unhappy people and protests.
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[16:54:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:3, Informative) 02Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:54:30] <exec> 08└─When did the word "Controversial" change meaning to be "Awful piece of shit we'd all be better off without"? "Controversial" alt-right leader "Controversial" 2016 presidential election "Controversial" police shooting "Controversial" Subway spokesman
[16:54:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 532 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:54:32] <exec> 08└─It's funny, because controversy suggests that there's another side to the argument, but yours seems to be the modern definition of the word. I think it's just one of those words that (at least, to me) has stopped being a word with meaning and has become a sign that a person using it is parroting the...
[16:54:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:1) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 487 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:54:34] <exec> 08└─Don't forget racism, which used to refer to holding bias against other people because of their perceived race. Now it just means someone that doesn't agree with the left on one issue or another. Don't like the EPA? You're a racist. Don't like the DoE? Racist. Think taxes are too high already? Racist...
[16:54:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:54:36] <exec> 08└─Didn't you know? We're in the post-truth world now, words don't mean anything so you shouldn't take them literally. Instead you should... umm... you should listen to... wait that would be words again. Well, you could use objective facts. Oops, those are made up now too. Oh fuck it, lets all just wat...
[16:54:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 487 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:54:38] <exec> 08└─Have you not heard the people defending Shkreli? http://brutallyuncensored.com [brutallyuncensored.com] Brutally Uncensored... lol what a joke. Have any larger semi-more-trustworthy sites picked up that drivel? Shkerli defended the price hike by saying, “If...
[16:54:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02In related news... - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 578 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:54:40] <exec> 08└─A group of high school students in Juarez, Mexico managed to create the active ingredient in methamphetamine for 200 pesos (about US$10). This methamphetamine would sell for thousands of dollars on the United States black market. If manufactured by the US pharmaceutical industry and sold legally, ac...
[16:54:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] 02patches - 06More Than 1 Million Google Accounts Breached by Gooligan Malware - 477 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:54:48] <exec> 08└─It's not so much the monoculture that's the problem, it's the fact that the handset manufacturers lose interest in the devices 10 minutes after they've been sold and won't release updates and patches to customers, instead pushing them to buy more new and shiny. Google should mandate that in order to...
[16:54:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:patches - 06More Than 1 Million Google Accounts Breached by Gooligan Malware - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:54:53] <exec> 08└─the fact that the handset manufacturers lose interest in the devices 10 minutes after they've been sold and won't release updates and patches to customers, instead pushing them to buy more new and shiny.
[16:54:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:patches - 06More Than 1 Million Google Accounts Breached by Gooligan Malware - 597 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:54:55] <exec> 08└─The thing is that if these people are downloading stuff from questionable sources to avoid paying for commercial software (the equivalent of warez in the PC world), they're going to get boned in a lot of cases by malware, regardless of exploits. They can still intercept credentials, etc. For the mos...
[16:54:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:patches - 06More Than 1 Million Google Accounts Breached by Gooligan Malware - 750 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:54:57] <exec> 08└─A simple mandate would be difficult. There's a better solution, which I've proposed to the Android Security Team: Give handset makers a, say, 5% share of revenue from Google Play for anything sold to a device that is completely up to date with all security updates. Apple takes a 30% cut of all apps,...
[16:54:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:patches - 06More Than 1 Million Google Accounts Breached by Gooligan Malware - 1491 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:54:59] <exec> 08└─Good point - but - I tend to agree with the monoculture statement. When a zero day exploit comes out, basically, the exploiters have access to more than half the telephones in the world. If we didn't have that huge monoculture, a new zero day exploit might be capable of accessing as little as 5% of...
[16:55:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:patches - 06More Than 1 Million Google Accounts Breached by Gooligan Malware - 474 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:55:01] <exec> 08└─Actually, I'd like to see a federal law mandating that device and software manufacturers keep customers' internet-enabled devices patched for at least fifteen years. I have a couple of perfectly usable XP computers that there's no way in hell I'll have on my network (looking for a decent Linux distr...
[16:55:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:patches - 06More Than 1 Million Google Accounts Breached by Gooligan Malware - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:55:03] <exec> 08└─When people start facing fines because of it. Also, perhaps when software developers are required to have the same sort of professional insurance as engineers.
[16:55:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03skater [4342] (Score:2) 02Re:patches - 06More Than 1 Million Google Accounts Breached by Gooligan Malware - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:55:06] <exec> 08└─Or Google could do what Apple does and manage the updates themselves.
[16:55:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03gidds [589] (Score:2) 02Whose responsibility? - 06More Than 1 Million Google Accounts Breached by Gooligan Malware - 635 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:55:08] <exec> 08└─I'm not a smartphone user, so I'm sure this is a naïve view. But why shouldn't it be the user's responsibility to keep their device up-to-date? The manufacturer has no incentive to do so; that's why they don't, and why you should be suspicious of any claims. But the user has every incentive. Why...
[16:55:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Iceland is awesome - 06The Frozen Banana Republic - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:55:28] <exec> 08└─Geothermal is actually a significant part of their energy, but most power comes from hydro.
[16:55:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Code is Law - 06California Courts' Software Causing Wrongful Arrests and Extended Custody - 621 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:55:42] <exec> 08└─Maybe you are too young to have experienced this, but back in the day before computers did EVERYTHING, people could end up in a shit situation due to what was known as a "clerical error." Some clerk would misenter information on a paper form or else not file paperwork as required. Agency B wouldn't...
[16:55:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Clarification - 06California Courts' Software Causing Wrongful Arrests and Extended Custody - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:55:44] <exec> 08└─I should clarify that I am arguing against people who say computers *in general* are the problem rather than *the law*. In this *particular* case, it might be that the software is buggy due to incompetence by the contractor, or because the govt gave the contractor bad specs to work from, or because...
[16:55:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Clarification - 06California Courts' Software Causing Wrongful Arrests and Extended Custody - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:55:46] <exec> 08└─I'll add another possible cause: inadequate budget of money/time allocated to system testing before going live.
[16:55:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Code is Law - 06California Courts' Software Causing Wrongful Arrests and Extended Custody - 686 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:55:50] <exec> 08└─Yes, there is buggy software, but only very complex software (say, an OS) needs to be so complex that there's no way to test it properly. And they always call it "computer error" even when it's a clerk typing in the wrong number! The computer's not going to "mistakenly" make a traffic ticket into a...
[16:55:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Code is Law - 06California Courts' Software Causing Wrongful Arrests and Extended Custody - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:55:52] <exec> 08└─The computer's not going to "mistakenly" make a traffic ticket into a felony because it doesn't like the person who got the ticket, but humans are more than capable of doing this.
[16:55:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03skater [4342] (Score:2) 02Re:Code is Law - 06California Courts' Software Causing Wrongful Arrests and Extended Custody - 467 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:55:54] <exec> 08└─I worked in a retail store in the 90s that was computerizing, and just before our store went live, the owners came in and had a meeting with all of us. One of the things they said was, "Don't blame the computer. If a price is wrong, it's because someone entered the wrong price. The computer only doe...
[16:56:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02It appears BND is into disinfo lately... - 06Top German Spy Warns of Political Cyberattacks, Russia Links - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:56:35] <exec> 08└─Disinfo appears as the only sane explanation for BND's recent shenanigans. Apparently, they'll also do on a shoestring budget what NSA can only do by corrupting the very infrastructure of the internet as well as using legal leverage on major service providers: http://www.globalsecurity.org
[16:56:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Reagan again - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 515 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:56:53] <exec> 08└─You re probably too old to know better. That line was a mic check, it was clearly intended as a joke in that everyone laughed, loudly and without any of the nervous "was that a joke" sort of hesitation. Was he ALSO intending to send the Soviets a message as subtext, that he wasn't going to be terrif...
[16:57:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Leebert [3511] (Score:2) 02Re:Rules for survival under an autocrat - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:57:00] <exec> 08└─This is a useful admonition, but what has really been missing in the (what I consider to be) excessive alarmism over Mr. Trump's election is a recognition of the inherent limitations of the executive to actually accomplish his goals. Even with both houses of the Congress, there are still serious spe...
[16:57:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Tiny hands! - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:57:22] <exec> 08└─Bleh, just angry insults.
[16:57:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:I don't get this line of thinking - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 2243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:57:27] <exec> 08└─The gist that I am getting from this is the press cannot tell the difference from a bullshit artist and a politician, yet the average person believes they can spot bullshit from a bullshit artists. Perhaps this is yet another reason why people liked Trump over the other politicians as they cannot te...
[16:58:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03nobu_the_bard [6373] (Score:1) 02new domains - 06Hacker Dishes Advanced Phishing Kit to Hook Clever Staff in 10 Mins - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:58:08] <exec> 08└─Registering new domains to send your phishing isn't going to work too well if the company is using something like Spam Eating Monkey's FRESH list, which lists domains 5 days old. There's lots of other similar RBLs around too.
[16:58:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02Ruby-based toolkit builds - 06Hacker Dishes Advanced Phishing Kit to Hook Clever Staff in 10 Mins - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:58:09] <exec> 08└─When is the Python version going to be available?
[16:58:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03quacking duck [1395] (Score:2) 02Re:This is a big deal in Canada - 06Trudeau Cabinet Approves Trans Mountain, Line 3 Pipelines, Rejects Northern Gateway - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:58:55] <exec> 08└─Tar sands are costly at every stage of their processing (and later, cleanup), and require a sustained high barrel price to be viable compared to already-costly fracking, let alone the rest
[16:59:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:I sympathize but... - 06Trudeau Cabinet Approves Trans Mountain, Line 3 Pipelines, Rejects Northern Gateway - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:59:02] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure if you're referring to my comments as complaining, or if you're indirectly insinuating that in your opinion I "have no notable proficiency for thinking into the future or dealing with capitalism."
[17:00:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03jlv [3756] (Score:1) 02Re:Sold out :( - 06Jigsaw-Like Puzzle That Maps to a Klein Bottle and Can be Constructed in Multiple Ways - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:00:32] <exec> 08└─Unlike those inferior 4-dimensional Klein Bottles, you can actually fill an ACME Klein Bottle with water!
[17:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Overreaction - 06Internet Archive to Duplicate Data in Canada in Response to Trump's Election - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:01:58] <exec> 08└─Is it Europe? Is it Asia? Lo and Behold, Ladies and Gentlemen, it is Eurasia!
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[17:54:48] <exec> 08└─No, it's definitely still racists, they just now find internet echo chambers on the internet where they all say what you're saying right now back and forth to each other. I've yet to any serious amount of people be called racist outside of the context of them spewing some bigoted bullshit of one fla...
[17:54:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:54:51] <exec> 08└─Controversy implies conflict, most people dislike conflict. The only thing worse than conflict is change - most conflict is based upon the resistance to change. If you want to be controversial, propose a change. Nevermind that all improvements are changes.
[17:54:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:54:53] <exec> 08└─Not to defend reactionary or even conservative politics by accident: but all damage is change too.
[17:54:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:54:55] <exec> 08└─Just to jump it to the metaphysical: lack of change is death.
[17:54:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score:2) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 979 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:54:58] <exec> 08└─I think this kind of criticism of Shkreli and/or the company is mostly hypocritical. We can spend all day dissing Shkreli for the actions we see as immoral, but this would imply, at the least, that our morals are right and his are wrong; and what would be the point of having this discussion? Are we...
[17:54:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:55:00] <exec> 08└─Alright, I'll just blame you for being a sociopathic piece of shit.
[17:55:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Only $20... - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:55:04] <exec> 08└─It looks like there were 5 people working for free on this project since August 2015. So for grad student wages that would work out to about $150k. They don't explain what the 20 dollars was spent on... I would guess lab consumables add up to more than that after a year though. That is almost certai...
[17:55:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score:2) 02The students are barking at the wrong tree - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 660 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:55:07] <exec> 08└─$20 to create a drug that already exists misses the point of why pharma products often seem so expensive: the cost of the tablets doesn't reflect the manufacturing cost (which is close to zero, oftentimes) but the cost of research, clinical studies and the whole approval process, which shaves many y...
[17:55:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score:2) 02Re:The students are barking at the wrong tree - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:55:09] <exec> 08└─the cost of the tablets doesn't reflect the manufacturing cost (which is close to zero, oftentimes) but the cost of research, clinical studies and the whole approval process, which shaves many years off the patent period during which the company can turn a profit and recoup their costs.
[17:55:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The students are barking at the wrong tree - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 900 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:55:11] <exec> 08└─Fine so the price of medicine is due to the R&D. Except Shekreli's company acquired the rights to sell the medicine, they did no R&D. And seriously can you really justify going from 13 dollars to 750 dollars a pill? 750/13 = 57x price increase. Thats reasonable? No it's not. Its price gouging. When...
[17:55:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Now complete their journey to the Dark Side - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 1500 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:55:13] <exec> 08└─If the school was interested in educating vs indoctrinating they would now let them experience some reality. Let em try to do the paperwork for FDA approval, the paperwork and extra expense of an FDA approved manufacturing process, the end to end inventory controls and understand WHY a drug that can...
[17:55:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Which teacher helped them? - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:55:15] <exec> 08└─Does their teacher want to get revenge after having been laid off from industry?
[17:55:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:1) 02Re:It isn't? - 06The Frozen Banana Republic - 582 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:55:46] <exec> 08└─Yeah there's no way they'll compete in the export market against countries with cheap labor and much better climate. They'd be foolish to even try that. On the other hand growing enough of this stuff for local use makes a lot of sense. But back to them not being the banana capital of Europe? Why not...
[17:55:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Iceland is awesome - 06The Frozen Banana Republic - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:55:54] <exec> 08└─Bugger all that. How are the girls?
[17:56:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Code is Law - 06California Courts' Software Causing Wrongful Arrests and Extended Custody - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:56:14] <exec> 08└─Ask any computer if it would rather "get things right" or just continue down the path of "horrible software design, implementation, security and support" and I bet it would choose "get things right". It's the humans that are mucking things up, not the computers.
[17:56:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03skater [4342] (Score:2) 02Re:SIM808 modules... - 06Raspberry Pi 3 Gets Low-Bandwidth LTE with Add-on Chip - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:56:40] <exec> 08└─I want to do something similar with our RV, but with temperature and status of power monitoring instead - we have pets, and there's always a concern that the power could go out while we're away. Thanks for posting this!
[17:57:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] 02if facts don't matter, why should mere words? - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 565 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:57:16] <exec> 08└─I imagine propagandists understand what counts: confirming words. Contrary words are of no more importance than aimless breezes. That catchy little statement about "literally" and "seriously" isn't that great, really. Taking someone seriously doesn't mean being respectful or liking or believing them...
[17:57:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Trump better leans to say what he means - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 1510 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:57:26] <exec> 08└─He clearly is not nearly as thin skinned as most people, especially the Democrat Media, seem (hint: they really don't) to believe. Gov. Haley was fairly rough in her criticism of Trump and is now set to join his administration. And look at Romney, that jerk didn't just insult Trump, he insulted ever...
[17:57:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:Trump better leans to say what he means - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:57:30] <exec> 08└─We'll have to elect the Trump to see what's in the Trump's policies. Ah good! I see we've accomplished the first half!
[17:57:42] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Condensed - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 298 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:57:42] <exec> 08└─Actual short version: the right is so please their guy won they didn't even care that he'll say absolutely anything, and did in order to convince you that he's on your side. Don't hold him accountable for anything he says because that's just his shtick. Ha ha, Trumps will say the darnedest things.
[17:58:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Little thought . . . - 06Native Americans Possibly Raising Turkeys Long Before the First Thanksgiving - 642 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:58:49] <exec> 08└─History books? Who reads history books, when there's Hollywood to tell you everything you ever need to know about our nomadic-but-so-wise victims? The TV/movie indian identity is either modern, alcoholic and poor (but wise or casino-related somehow), or a teepee-dweller bravely worried about the whi...
[18:00:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:I have a dream - 06Elite U.S. Special Operators Build Center for Perpetual War on Terror - 338 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:00:29] <exec> 08└─Well, those crazies use homicidal losers driving rickety pickups through deserts and blowing themselves up for their insane cause. Our brave heroes direct their high-tech robots from half a world away, and dispense swift and true 500-pound-increments justice from far up in the sky, before going back...
[18:01:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Why in FUCKS name did you people - 06Hello and Welcome - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:01:23] <exec> 08└─That's your diploma right there. Congrats, you're one of ... them.
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[18:54:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02answer - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 8 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:54:45] <exec> 08└─oral sex
[18:54:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:answer - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:54:47] <exec> 08└─People such as myself don't care for it and won't accept it as payment.
[18:54:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:answer - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:54:49] <exec> 08└─What an odd thing to say.
[18:54:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Dwolla - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:54:51] <exec> 08└─I've heard good things about dwolla. Had an account but never actually used it, so I can't confirm if what I heard was true, though.
[18:54:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Person-to-Person? Allow me to be an ass... - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:54:53] <exec> 08└─If there is such a system, it's got to be the cash economy (or "barter"). Other than that, there is no such thing as a Person-to-Person payment system; even Bitcoin essentially requires the use of a third party to verify the validity of each "peer-to-peer" transaction. Heck, even with cash, you migh...
[18:54:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Person-to-Person? Allow me to be an ass... - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:54:55] <exec> 08└─even Bitcoin essentially requires the use of a third party to verify the validity of each "peer-to-peer" transaction.
[18:54:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:3, Informative) 02Venmo - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 807 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:54:58] <exec> 08└─Venmo works pretty well for me. You can send or receive money. Money received will pool until you cashout which seems pretty fast. Money paid will pull from your pool until it's empty and then pull from a linked bank account. I don't think it's even required to have a linked bank account if you want...
[18:54:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02My online banking lets me do it - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:55:00] <exec> 08└─Honestly, I can go to an app on my phone and send money and it's about as painless as it comes. Most major American banks have a similar service. (Though I really want to move to a smaller bank and give up the nice shiny tech for a less corporate bullshitty experience)
[18:55:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02a related topic - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:55:02] <exec> 08└─Until recently I could do that using a web page at my bank. They broke it though. I'm not installing an app on my phone and giving it permission to read anything it wants in order to get back the service they should provide through the web. So I'm looking for a new bank. Can anyone recommend one tha...
[18:55:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Why #2? - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:55:04] <exec> 08└─You didn't provide any details.
[18:55:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why #2? - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:55:06] <exec> 08└─Yeah I think #2 is whatost people here will care about. What is PayPal doing that we should be aware of?
[18:55:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02Re:Why #2? - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:55:08] <exec> 08└─Mostly freezing people's funds for months on end, and other glitches of which PayPal and its former owner eBay have attempted to remove all evidence [straightdope.com].
[18:55:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Why #2? - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:55:10] <exec> 08└─If you're *selling* via PayPal, sure. I haven't heard about any problems with using them to buy stuff as a CC frontend. I'd guess using them to pay other people and lack of "Peace of mind" means OP thinks they're leaking his info?
[18:55:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Uncle_Al [1108] (Score:2) 02You don't "fire" a service - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:55:12] <exec> 08└─Stop being such a fucking whore to advertisers who came up with the stupid term.
[18:55:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:1) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 1209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:55:25] <exec> 08└─"No, it's definitely still racists," kanuread? Cause it sure sounds like you're replying to someone that said racism doesn't exist. It absolutely does exist, it's making a big comeback, and overuse of the term until people don't fear it anymore is a part of why. I don't think that's a good thing, qu...
[18:55:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 1184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:55:26] <exec> 08└─There is in fact a lot of racism (and sexism, and plenty of other -isms) out there. It all stems from the simple fact that everyone regularly has to answer this question: "There's a person I have never seen before in my vicinity, how much of a threat/opportunity do they present to me?" In the absenc...
[18:55:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:55:29] <exec> 08└─Didn't you get the memo? You listen to bellyfeel now.
[18:55:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:55:31] <exec> 08└─I'm lactose intolerant and live in the US. My belly tells me that WW3 has been going on for a while now!
[18:55:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02News conflict of interest - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:55:40] <exec> 08└─what was the last time you voted or campaigned for a politician who firmly opposes patents and copyrights?
[18:55:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02you aren't protesting correctly - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 502 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:55:42] <exec> 08└─> Are we to expect that public shaming of law-abiding entrepreneurs will fix the clusterfuck that is medical patents? This is the same old bullshit "you aren't protesting correctly" concern-trolling diversion. The answer is YES. Yes, public shaming of "law-abiding entrepreneurs" will fix the cluster...
[18:55:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 1160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:55:44] <exec> 08└─Both you and jmorris make the same mistake: The reason why there is only one manufacturer is because it targets a small market and, until Shkreli, had a cheap price. It's not about patents, it's not about FDA approvals. The drug exists, is already authorized, and was priced by someone who intended t...
[18:55:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02objective voice - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:55:46] <exec> 08└─> When did the word "Controversial" change meaning to be "Awful piece of shit we'd all be better off without"? About the time that we started to get so many pieces of shit in the public eye and the media could find no other word to use while preserving an objective voice. But language evolves, if yo...
[18:55:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:55:48] <exec> 08└─Must've happened at the same time "Peaceful" changed definitions. "Peaceful" burglar/convicted felon shot by police. "Peaceful" woman running for President of the US. "Peaceful" protests include throwing rocks and eggs at other human beings. "Peaceful" people who support the above.
[18:55:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02It's not a patent - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:55:55] <exec> 08└─Some economists pointed out decades ago, drug manufacturers would mostly do just fine recouping the costs without patents
[18:55:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02Re:The students are barking at the wrong tree - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:55:59] <exec> 08└─He's taking a step back from the specific situation and making an accurate statement based on the larger pharmaceutrical industry as a whole. Notice that stating "R&D is expensive" is not equivalent to stating, "Companies can overcharge for medicine." Taking facts at their face value and not adding...
[18:56:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The students are barking at the wrong tree - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:56:01] <exec> 08└─Its important to highlight the difference when defending an opposing point of view. We are in the age of cynicism where people are forced to presume ulterior motives behind everything.
[18:56:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Now complete their journey to the Dark Side - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:56:04] <exec> 08└─Let em try to do the paperwork for FDA approval, the paperwork and extra expense of an FDA approved manufacturing process... If the paperwork could be streamlined
[18:56:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:Whose responsibility? - 06More Than 1 Million Google Accounts Breached by Gooligan Malware - 722 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:56:24] <exec> 08└─I would accept the user responsibility argument, except that most handsets are not offered an update once manufactured. If you're lucky, you may get one or two updates offered in the lifetime of the handset. The manufacturer may even make updates, but then the carrier blocks the updates from being o...
[18:56:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:patches - 06More Than 1 Million Google Accounts Breached by Gooligan Malware - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:56:25] <exec> 08└─Android is FOSS, Google can't do that. What Google can do is push requirements on manufacturers if they want Google Play et al installed.
[18:56:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:patches - 06More Than 1 Million Google Accounts Breached by Gooligan Malware - 508 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:56:27] <exec> 08└─There is no reward for the manufacturers. Sony has been offering stock developer devices completely unlocked for years but they have no traction in thE US. Xperia devices are basically nexus phones with SDCard slots but I have never seen one in the wild outside of ones that I have owned. I have an X...
[18:56:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Queue the Victim Blaming - 06More Than 1 Million Google Accounts Breached by Gooligan Malware - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:56:32] <exec> 08└─oh yeeeeaaaaahhhh! if you use your main google account for your android devices instead of making up a new bogus one each time, you're a Fooligan and deserve to be hacked.
[18:56:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Better yet... - 06More Than 1 Million Google Accounts Breached by Gooligan Malware - 618 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:56:35] <exec> 08└─How about we just remember some decent passwords?? Sure reusing passwords isn't great security, but it seems a lot better than having your passwords lifted right out of your phone! Brute forcing passwords for online services has lost the edge since most sites block multiple attempts. Personally I ma...
[18:56:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03r1348 [5988] (Score:2) 02Re:Temperatures - 06The Frozen Banana Republic - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:56:50] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceland#Climate [wikipedia.org] It's actually not that cold, average low in January in Reykjavik is -3°C. I guess the cold climate is due to cold summers.
[18:56:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Temperatures - 06The Frozen Banana Republic - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:56:51] <exec> 08└─> Actually, I'm surprised that it's only 0 °C in the winter. I would have expected it much lower. I'd have to check inland, but most residents live near the ocean, which limits how cold you get. "but wait, oceans freeze in the far North and it gets really cold" Two words : Gulf Stream
[18:56:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Iceland is awesome - 06The Frozen Banana Republic - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:56:58] <exec> 08└─Does it matter? They have a mid-winter festival that translates to "fuck fest."
[18:57:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:2) 02The elephant in the room - 06The Frozen Banana Republic - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:57:01] <exec> 08└─A banana republic [wikipedia.org] does not refer to the production of bananas, just like an elephant in the room does not refer to a literal elephant. ...now if Banana Republic [wikipedia.org] ran Iceland, it would be a banana republic.
[18:57:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02At least they got a good deal on the price - 06California Courts' Software Causing Wrongful Arrests and Extended Custody - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:57:35] <exec> 08└─The software, created by Texas-based Tyler Technologies, costs about $5m
[18:58:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Entropy [4228] (Score:2) 02Re:Wascally Wabbit - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:58:25] <exec> 08└─Yeah. Not only do we feed them more as they reproduce, we got them healthcare that useful people have to pay for them making sure only the stupid survive. Pretty sure Pres. bin hussein was the bottom of the bucket in that respsect.
[18:58:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hooray! - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:58:36] <exec> 08└─Build wall, get paid, feed family. Die with satisfaction of job well done.
[18:58:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Rules for survival under an autocrat - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 394 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:58:39] <exec> 08└─what has really been missing in the (what I consider to be) excessive alarmism over Mr. Trump's election is a recognition of the inherent limitations of the executive to actually accomplish his goals. Even with both houses of the Congress, there are still serious speedbumps in the way of the executi...
[18:58:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03MostCynical [2589] 02Re:Trump better leans to say what he means - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 89 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:58:44] <exec> 08└─So he doesn't mean what he says. What does he mean? Is everyone supposed to just *guess*?
[18:59:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Condensed - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 2049 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:02] <exec> 08└─Section 1. The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature t...
[18:59:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03weeds [611] 02Re:I don't get this line of thinking - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 203 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:08] <exec> 08└─We need a higher mod than 5! In a nutshell, "Trump is a bullshit artist so the press better stop reporting what he says. It's the fault of the press for not recognizing this." Have we all lost our minds?
[18:59:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Can't we just drone that guy? - 06Hacker Dishes Advanced Phishing Kit to Hook Clever Staff in 10 Mins - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:59:48] <exec> 08└─I suppose you can't define useful people without having these worthless shitbags around to compare them to.
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[19:54:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02dump Nanotubes in every Ocean - 06Carbon Nanotubes Make Water Freeze Solid at Boiling Temperatures - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:54:55] <exec> 08└─Fuck the World! Freeze it Solid! Kill every Thing!
[19:54:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Ice NIne - 06Carbon Nanotubes Make Water Freeze Solid at Boiling Temperatures - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:54:56] <exec> 08└─I hope they didn't just invent ice-nine. [wikipedia.org]
[19:55:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:answer - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:55:10] <exec> 08└─No, just a matter of taste. Scnr
[19:55:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dwolla - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:55:12] <exec> 08└─This used to be the answer. But unfortunately, starting in a few weeks, you will no longer be able to send and receive money directly to other people with Dwolla because they are changing their business model and focus. Dwolla is now directing people to a site called Current. https://current.com [c...
[19:55:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02All 110 GB of Bitcoin's blockchain - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:55:17] <exec> 08└─Not really, your home computer can verify the whole blockchain from start to finish.
[19:55:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:All 110 GB of Bitcoin's blockchain - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:55:19] <exec> 08└─Or you use a light wallet that just check the headers of the chain (which is currently about 40MB if I'm correct).
[19:55:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Person-to-Person? Allow me to be an ass... - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:55:21] <exec> 08└─The blockchain is created by the Bitcoin Network. Guess what? That Bitcoin Network is... wait for it... a THIRD PARTY!!!1111
[19:55:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Venmo - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:55:24] <exec> 08└─Venmo is owned by paypal
[19:55:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:a related topic - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 2083 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:55:28] <exec> 08└─A native app isn't all that bad, and probably preferred to be honest. The issue you have is the permissions, and that is rightly fucked on both Android and iOS. You have to jailbreak/root the crap out of it before you can start taking away permissions from apps, and sometimes, that breaks the apps....
[19:55:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:a related topic - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:55:30] <exec> 08└─Ever heard of PayPal?
[19:55:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Why #2? - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:55:37] <exec> 08└─At this point it is almost crazy to NOT think businesses with large user databases are selling your info.
[19:55:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why #2? - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:55:40] <exec> 08└─I'm pretty sure any U.S. financial institution can freeze your account, it just happens more often with PayPal because more suspicious (illegal) activity occurs with PayPal than the others. This is why medical weed outlets deal with cash only. Even though legal statewide it's still illegal by the fe...
[19:55:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You don't "fire" a service - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:55:43] <exec> 08└─Gotta do as the rich do in the hope of becoming rich. Mmmmmmmm, money.
[19:55:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:You don't "fire" a service - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:55:45] <exec> 08└─Let me sell you my 12 step process for getting rich! Here's a little demo of the product: Establish a 12-set process for getting richFind a poor schmuck willing to buy your process < End of free sample > Like what you see? Order it now for 12 easy payments of $99.98!
[19:55:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You don't "fire" a service - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:55:47] <exec> 08└─+1 *sigh*
[19:55:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03aclarke [2049] (Score:2) 02Re:You don't "fire" a service - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:55:49] <exec> 08└─Well the submitter did mention "fired PayPal" three times in the summary, so maybe they made up for quality with volume. On the other hand, they took the time to write up an article and submit it to SN. And here we are discussing it. So, win. Back on subject, I use Interac e-transfers [interac.c...
[19:55:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You don't "fire" a service - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:55:51] <exec> 08└─But seriously, what's up with the US banking system?
[19:55:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02No one is mentioning it - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:55:53] <exec> 08└─Everyone already knows the best way, no reason to mention it.
[19:55:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Coinbase - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:55:56] <exec> 08└─I encourage you to give Coinbase a try. Send somebody some Bitcoin via email using Coinbase, and see what happens.
[19:55:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03SuperCharlie [2939] (Score:3, Insightful) 02You probably have two problems.. - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 758 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:55:58] <exec> 08└─I have used Paypal since around 2006-7 or so. I use it personally and for my business. It would seem you would need to be able to send people money and to receive money from people..2 completely different issues. To send money, you will need the other person to interact with whatever solution you fi...
[19:56:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:56:12] <exec> 08└─All those words and you didn't say anything remotely true.
[19:56:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:2, Touché) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:56:14] <exec> 08└─So let's go through the meat of Arik's post: It [racism] absolutely does exist, it's making a big comeback, and overuse of the term until people don't fear it anymore is a part of why.
[19:56:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 800 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:56:28] <exec> 08└─Original AC here who called Shkreli a douche, I was going to respond but I'm glad I checked the other posts first. They covered all the bases I can think of :) To re-illustrate one of the points, complaining and shaming is the most effective thing we peons can do. Our votes are unlikely to sway the...
[19:56:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 469 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:56:31] <exec> 08└─It all ties back to the anti-intellectual movement going on to dumb down the populace and make them easier to control. "They" are really becoming the thought police, and the PC movement was such a perfect bandwagon for them to jump on... 20+ years ago such shoddy word use would have these "news" out...
[19:56:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Re:The students are barking at the wrong tree - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 1093 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:56:42] <exec> 08└─Yes, however, The patent for pyrimethamine (brand name Daraprim) expired sometime in the 1970s. [quora.com] In other words, any research costs have long since been amortized. That said, this is another of those drugs for a really rare condition. No generic manufacturer has taken the drug on, because...
[19:56:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Now complete their journey to the Dark Side - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:56:45] <exec> 08└─https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=16766&cid=435560#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] TL:DR you're mistaking the daraprim situation for a new drug that hasn't already recouped its R&D. Regulation and testing is very important, even still we get some drugs approved that have nasty side effects and s...
[19:56:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Four Thieves Vinegar - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:56:49] <exec> 08└─I wonder if their microlab was involved. https://www.fourthievesvinegar.org [fourthievesvinegar.org]
[19:57:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03DutchUncle [5370] (Score:2) 02Re:Not so fast - 06The Frozen Banana Republic - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:57:27] <exec> 08└─Maybe it's a volcanic island that only exists *because* it's right on that fault line?
[19:57:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03DutchUncle [5370] (Score:2) 02Forbidding the sale of these bananas is a waste - 06The Frozen Banana Republic - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:57:40] <exec> 08└─Every tourist would want a genuine Icelandic banana daquiri for their island vacation.
[19:57:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] 02Re:Code is Law - 06California Courts' Software Causing Wrongful Arrests and Extended Custody - 24 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:57:50] <exec> 08└─We are all Harry Buttle.
[19:58:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Yeah right. - 06Top German Spy Warns of Political Cyberattacks, Russia Links - 609 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:58:44] <exec> 08└─I note you posted anonymously, and that so have several others. And I don't see anything peculiar or difficult to support in the claims listed in the summary, so your response seems scripted...though by what I'm not sure. The one that suggested that the head of a German Intelligence Agency was "a bu...
[20:00:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02good stuff - 06Research Into Psychedelics Continues - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:00:03] <exec> 08└─And in one pilot study involving 19 PTSD patients, more than half experienced decreased symptoms for up to six years after receiving three doses of MDMA.
[20:00:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02clever, indeed - 06Hacker Dishes Advanced Phishing Kit to Hook Clever Staff in 10 Mins - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:00:26] <exec> 08└─"An impressive 40 percent of staff at an unnamed Australian Government agency opened Orru's phishing emails and sent him corporate VPN credentials during a previous security test engagement." it must be clever if it tricked 40% of government workers. Everyone knows they're on top of their game.
[20:00:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:re They KNEW - 06Native Americans Possibly Raising Turkeys Long Before the First Thanksgiving - 592 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:00:53] <exec> 08└─In theory, yes. In practice, what were the odds (prior to this discovery) that they had just domesticated turkeys when the Europeans showed up? TFA not only portrays the evidence of domesticated turkeys c.500 as some sort of surprise, rather than confirmation of the expected, but also uses the Pilgr...
[20:01:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Snow [1601] 02This is a big deal in Canada - 06Trudeau Cabinet Approves Trans Mountain, Line 3 Pipelines, Rejects Northern Gateway - 1261 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:01:09] <exec> 08└─There are a lot of differing opinions around these approvals. Where I am from, Alberta, we rely on oil revenues and this year our Provincial deficit is something like $50 billion - not good. Alberta, being a landlocked province, has difficulties attractin buyers of our crude because it can be diffic...
[20:01:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is a big deal in Canada - 06Trudeau Cabinet Approves Trans Mountain, Line 3 Pipelines, Rejects Northern Gateway - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:01:26] <exec> 08└─"like getting some cheaper Canadian gas instead of being dependent on the Americans who have no problem shutting down their refineries all the time to drive the price up." the hell, you say! :)
[20:01:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:The 'Paywall' is history - 06Treating Antibiotic Resistant Bacteria at the Wastewater Plant - 458 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:01:53] <exec> 08└─I think you are wrong. We only have to face a legal challenge (not even be found guilty) and the site will close because we simply cannot afford to pay for the legal representation that would be required. For us to be able to print what we like when we like would require you, as part of our communit...
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[20:54:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Trump Trump Trump - 06Carbon Nanotubes Make Water Freeze Solid at Boiling Temperatures - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:54:41] <exec> 08└─I hope MIT invented ice-nine and I hope Trump uses it.
[20:54:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Trump Trump Trump - 06Carbon Nanotubes Make Water Freeze Solid at Boiling Temperatures - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:54:42] <exec> 08└─Could parent comment secretly be on-topic??? [soylentnews.org]
[20:54:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Phase Diagram - 06Carbon Nanotubes Make Water Freeze Solid at Boiling Temperatures - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:54:45] <exec> 08└─Maybe they can enlighten us by adding their findings to the Water Phase Diagram... [xkcd.com]
[20:55:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:All 110 GB of Bitcoin's blockchain - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 980 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:55:04] <exec> 08└─It can be ridiculously slow to start up, sure, but that's a different issue entirely than whether or not it requires the trust of a third party. I'm not arguing that point. I am betting that most first-world netizens have 110 GB of non-OS space on their home computers, and I don't think that the cor...
[20:55:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:All 110 GB of Bitcoin's blockchain - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 632 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:55:05] <exec> 08└─having the advantage of blissful ignorance, it sounds like it is analogous to open-source s/w, where it is *possible* to audit the source code and *theoretically* catch any malfeasance going on, but *most* people don't, trusting the hive-mind will have a drone somewhere crunching the numbers and cat...
[20:55:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:2) 02Re:Person-to-Person? Allow me to be an ass... - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 338 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:55:08] <exec> 08└─"The blockchain is created by the Bitcoin Network. Guess what? That Bitcoin Network is... wait for it... a THIRD PARTY!!!1111" With fees up the wazoo to access it best part unlike Paypal once sent you are guaranteed to never get it back if scammed or mis-directed, at least them weasels at Paypal wil...
[20:55:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Person-to-Person? Allow me to be an ass... - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:55:10] <exec> 08└─Okay Trollsy McGee, have fun ignoring the context that language is used in. I need a new word that means the same thing Satoshi Nakamoto meant when he used the term "trusted third party" in the Bitcoin Whitepaper (direct PDF link). [bitcoin.org] Any suggestions? If you read my link, you'll grok what...
[20:55:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Person-to-Person? Allow me to be an ass... - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 412 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:55:12] <exec> 08└─in the us, theres nothing stopping you from asking for a bank routing number and accout number from your intended recipient to do an EFT to from your online banking app. Of course, this requires some legwork and trust... if recipient is paranoid, their bank should allow them to set up a new checking...
[20:55:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03e_armadillo [3695] (Score:2) 02Re:Venmo - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:55:17] <exec> 08└─I'll check it out, thanks.
[20:55:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03e_armadillo [3695] (Score:2) 02Re:You don't "fire" a service - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:55:34] <exec> 08└─OK, I have moved on and will be making do without their services. Happy?
[20:55:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:You probably have two problems.. - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:55:39] <exec> 08└─I've been using Paypal for probably at least as long, probably more like 15 years. I keep hearing people complain about it, but all the cases I look into seem to involve people doing something a little shady. The main problems I've had with Paypal are just their site being terribly slow and also bug...
[20:55:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:You probably have two problems.. - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:55:41] <exec> 08└─Not just shady things. They also freeze accounts for political reasons. And probably some for reasons that aren't made public. (The guy freezing the account just broke up the the holder of the account, e.g.) How frequent this is I couldn't say, but it's frequent enough that I decided to never do bus...
[20:55:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03j-beda [6342] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Interac e-Transfer for Canada at least - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 1065 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:55:43] <exec> 08└─For transfers between friends and family, e-Transfer is workable. Depending on your banking package, there is probably a per-transaction fee and there are limitations on how large of a transfer can be made. http://interac.ca [interac.ca] There seem to be similar s...
[20:55:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Give Up - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 571 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:55:45] <exec> 08└─About six months ago I closed my Paypal account, but it didn't go well. A lot of online firms use Paypal to process their payments, so while you don't have an account you're still using Paypal quite often. However, the real problem comes if you want to sell something on ebay, where accepting Paypal...
[20:55:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02I guess not Dwolla - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:55:47] <exec> 08└─I was about to recommend Dwolla, I had heard good things about them and the price per transaction is only 0.30USD. However I reread their Wikipedia page and they were investigated for inadequate security practices. Money orders?
[20:55:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02There is no good solution. - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 1920 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:55:49] <exec> 08└─There is no good solution for online payments without companies like PayPal. The reasons are that there is no single digital standard for these transactions and therefore every payment processor creates their own system and guards it fiercely.* This in turn means that every merchant/service/business...
[20:55:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Western Union - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:55:52] <exec> 08└─Way before Pay Pal...even before the internet, Western Union has been transferring money around the world. https://www.westernunion.com [westernunion.com]
[20:55:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03GlennC [3656] (Score:3, Informative) 02Why not go old school? - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 547 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:55:54] <exec> 08└─There are several methods that I, and your parents and grandparents, use to send money to other people. Perhaps the best method I can think of is to send checks through the mail. If it's more time-sensitive, FedEx or some other courier service can be used. Otherwise, Western Union is a time-tested s...
[20:55:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Go away. - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 892 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:55:56] <exec> 08└─You used PayPal. You decided to stop using them because they didn't give you "Peace of Mind." You explicitly decline to specify what you mean by "Peace of Mind" or what aspect of PayPal violates it. Then you want strangers on the internet to recommend something that doesn't have the problem you won'...
[20:56:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ikanreed [3164] 02Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 249 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:56:06] <exec> 08└─When did the word "Controversial" change meaning to be "Awful piece of shit we'd all be better off without"? "Controversial" alt-right leader "Controversial" 2016 presidential election "Controversial" police shooting "Controversial" Subway spokesman
[20:56:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:56:14] <exec> 08└─You might see where I'm going with this. Surely, you aspire to be more than the SN village idiot.
[20:56:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:56:16] <exec> 08└─Look, all your telling me is that racists need to bleed in the street before they learn that other people's lives aren't their playthings. I'm totally down with that. Bash the fash.
[20:56:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 2438 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:56:18] <exec> 08└─Why do you have to be so full of shit? I've not heard liberals say anything remotely like what you're saying, and I live near one of their capitols, San Fransisco. How does the idiocy of arguing about climate change and anti-EPA positions have anything to do with racism? They don't, and I've not hea...
[20:56:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:1) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 1987 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:56:20] <exec> 08└─"Why do you have to be so full of shit?" Did I hit a nerve? "I've not heard liberals say anything remotely like what you're saying" I don't believe I used the word 'liberals.' These people are really not liberals, there's nothing liberal about them. "He doesn't like black guys touching his money, bu...
[20:56:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:1) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:56:23] <exec> 08└─I think you explain the genesis of the problem quite well, but can you give us a solution?
[20:56:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 1067 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:56:40] <exec> 08└─Because not everyone thinks that item is an "awful piece of shit we'd all be better off without", and in fact, there's a large part of the population who likes that thing. Alt-right leader: about half the nation likes him, or at least voted for him. There's no shortage of rabid fans online, and peop...
[20:56:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The students are barking at the wrong tree - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 1655 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:56:51] <exec> 08└─The R&D and testing to bring a drug to market are expensive and risky. The company gets a patent and a worldwide monopoly on production and distribution to recoup those costs rapidly. After that, the drug is supposed to become unencumbered and participate in healthy, free market economy. Daraprim, f...
[20:57:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:patches - 06More Than 1 Million Google Accounts Breached by Gooligan Malware - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:57:09] <exec> 08└─Sorry, but Google *does* make updates available. The handset makers won't bother to make them available on their customized build.
[20:58:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Shoot - 06California Courts' Software Causing Wrongful Arrests and Extended Custody - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:58:26] <exec> 08└─The men should start shooting when the boots come knocking.
[20:59:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Trump better leans to say what he means - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:59:30] <exec> 08└─He clearly is not nearly as thin skinned as most people, especially the Democrat Media, seem (hint: they really don't) to believe. Gov. Haley was fairly rough in her criticism of Trump and is now set to join his administration. And look at Romney, that jerk didn't just insult Trump, he insulted ever...
[20:59:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Trump better leans to say what he means - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:59:31] <exec> 08└─Trump is an arsehole. America just chose the bigger of two arseholes to be president. Thanks a bunch, signed the rest of your fellow human beings with whom you share a planet.
[21:00:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Like this is the first politician to talk crap. - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:00:06] <exec> 08└─Those aren't elites, silly. Those are Just Regular Folks Like You And Me. Elites are people who read books and talk in big words about things like equality and political correctness. B. O. R. I. N. G.
[21:00:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:“as the drug war subsides” - 06Research Into Psychedelics Continues - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:00:19] <exec> 08└─Your house smells like a meth lab! Your rights are revoked!
[21:00:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:clever, indeed - 06Hacker Dishes Advanced Phishing Kit to Hook Clever Staff in 10 Mins - 525 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:00:43] <exec> 08└─I used to work for a pretty big Silicon Valley tech company (remotely, I'm not insane). They paid someone to test phishing awareness. The numbers were bad on the first test (30% IIRC). The second test retried the people who clicked on the first, a few weeks later, and showed that they didn't get sus...
[21:01:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:Turkeys away! - 06Native Americans Possibly Raising Turkeys Long Before the First Thanksgiving - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:01:14] <exec> 08└─I'm even domestic turkeys, let alone wild ones, could glide their way to safety. Well, it's either that or they've been climbing their our local department store's roof.
[21:02:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not cheap - 06Treating Antibiotic Resistant Bacteria at the Wastewater Plant - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:13] <exec> 08└─Hopefully with the end of Obama's reign of tyranny, we will see a return to prayer to solve our water sterilization problems. Remember people, germ theory is *just a theory*.
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[21:54:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02underwater drone - 06New Mini Robot Sub Unveiled at the National Oceanography Centre - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:54:40] <exec> 08└─Bombing the shit out of your intercontinental cables. Quants say goodbye to your trading markets.
[21:54:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Oceanography - 06New Mini Robot Sub Unveiled at the National Oceanography Centre - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:54:41] <exec> 08└─Oceanography / pornography / geography, what's the difference? If it's not based on our nation's True Christian Values, BAN IT NOW. BAN IT NOW.
[21:54:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Trump Trump Trump - 06Carbon Nanotubes Make Water Freeze Solid at Boiling Temperatures - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:54:53] <exec> 08└─Scientists who value social justice more than the pursuit of knowledge are not scientists. They are frauds.
[21:54:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Phase Diagram - 06Carbon Nanotubes Make Water Freeze Solid at Boiling Temperatures - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:54:55] <exec> 08└─Name dropping in an xkcd. The names dropped are Vanilla Ice, David Bowie, and Queen. Randall Monroe is a privileged white racist asshole.
[21:54:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02nanorod dehumidifier - 06Carbon Nanotubes Make Water Freeze Solid at Boiling Temperatures - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:54:57] <exec> 08└─So is the nanorod dehumidifier a useful technology that will be available for peaceful applications, or will the American Empire of Terror only use it to murder brown people?
[21:54:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:1) 02polywater - 06Carbon Nanotubes Make Water Freeze Solid at Boiling Temperatures - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:55:00] <exec> 08└─This reminds me of polywater (which turned out not to be real). https://www.cs.cmu.edu [cmu.edu] https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] http://www.slate.com
[21:55:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:All 110 GB of Bitcoin's blockchain - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:55:22] <exec> 08└─> How is that practical [...] MicroSD cards with 128 GB, 200 GB, and 256 GB capacities are on the market. A 200 GB one can be had for US$70. https://www.amazon.com [amazon.com]
[21:55:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Venmo - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:55:29] <exec> 08└─Hah, it's turtles all the way down? Braintree bought Venmo then Paypal bought Braintree.
[21:55:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03e_armadillo [3695] (Score:2) 02Re:Venmo - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:55:32] <exec> 08└─Just read other thread about Venmo being owned by PayPal. Doh!
[21:55:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:1) 02Re:a related topic - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 1174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:55:37] <exec> 08└─"A native app isn't all that bad, and probably preferred to be honest. The issue you have is the permissions, and that is rightly fucked on both Android and iOS." Exactly. In theory it's the best way to go. In practice you're stuck with a POS OS that is literally impossible to secure, and I expect t...
[21:55:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:a related topic - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:55:39] <exec> 08└─I don't know of practically any corporation that has a site with security credentials, and is not running javascript. Soylent is one of the very few exceptions. You're hunting for unicorns, and the likelihood of finding a web interface well constructed without javascript will be a journey to impress...
[21:55:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:a related topic - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:55:42] <exec> 08└─The issue you have is the permissions, and that is rightly fucked on both Android and iOS.
[21:55:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03e_armadillo [3695] (Score:2) 02Re:My online banking lets me do it - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:55:45] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I have used my bank's bill pay for that in the past now that you mention it. That could work, but doesn't address the money coming back my way. But, like I said, more likely that I will be sending rather than receiving, so good option. Thanks for the reminder :-)
[21:56:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You probably have two problems.. - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:56:04] <exec> 08└─Why the fuck is it even legal for them to arbitrarily freeze accounts? I'm pretty sure even banks are subject to more regulations than that.
[21:56:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 1796 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:56:28] <exec> 08└─There are things that make a big difference: 1. Don't teach kids that skin color etc are good predictors of behavior. Pre-verbal babies and toddlers don't show significant signs of racism. 2. Actively show kids people who don't look like them being kind and generous. Ideally in person (my folks did...
[21:56:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 674 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:56:29] <exec> 08└─It seems like all of things might help but may not be necessary. You don't need population movement to find people who look different but share more important things if everyone is on the internet. Affirmative action has tremendous drawbacks. Community policing seems to have multiple meanings in pra...
[21:56:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:The students are barking at the wrong tree - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:56:58] <exec> 08└─He's taking a step back from the specific situation and making an accurate statement based on the larger pharmaceutrical industry as a whole.
[21:57:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tara Li [6248] (Score:1) 02Re:Now complete their journey to the Dark Side - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:57:03] <exec> 08└─The problem is that simply reproducing the drug is not sufficient to get FDA approval. A new manufacturer has to get *their* version FDA approved, as well.
[21:57:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sourcery42 [6400] (Score:1) 02Re:patches - 06More Than 1 Million Google Accounts Breached by Gooligan Malware - 575 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:57:18] <exec> 08└─That's right, Google pushes a monthly security patch. However, for the most part if you're not on a Nexus or flashing custom ROMs you don't get them. Google has some T's & C's about just what handset manufacturers have to do to ship a phone with Google Play Services installed (the big scary propriet...
[21:58:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:1) 02non-Cloudflare link - 06The Frozen Banana Republic - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:58:02] <exec> 08└─https://web.archive.org/web/20141117205024/http://modernfarmer.com/2014/11/frozen-banana-republic/ [archive.org]
[21:58:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03nethead [4970] (Score:1) 02How to communicate? - 06Raspberry Pi 3 Gets Low-Bandwidth LTE with Add-on Chip - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:58:52] <exec> 08└─I read TFA but it doesn't mention the protocol to communicate with. I'm guessing TCP/IP but v4 or v6, static or dynamic address?
[21:59:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Trump better leans to say what he means - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:59:43] <exec> 08└─So as long as you suck his dick, its ok if you were mean to him in the past? So the mass arrests or whatever the specialist snowflake has planned are find as long as those accused of "treason" or whatever repent. Got it. Fuck off.
[22:00:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Condensed - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:00:04] <exec> 08└─Gee, even after explaining how idiotic the left appear, they are doubling down. There's no hope for them really. And no one refuted having a stick up their ass. Leftist- 0 Humanity- 1
[22:03:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mainframe Bloke [1665] (Score:1) 02Re:Thanks heaps - 06Hello and Welcome - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:03:57] <exec> 08└─Thanks again, for explaining the basics and for the pointer to Greasemonkey.
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[22:54:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02I'm holding out - 06New Mini Robot Sub Unveiled at the National Oceanography Centre - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:54:46] <exec> 08└─I'm waiting for THREE levels of indirection. A robot sub launched from a robot sub, launched from a robot boat. (It will probably come from the Germans, not the Americans). Paired with complementary technologies, such as autonomous surface vehicles and satellites, a more complete picture of the oc...
[22:54:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Trump Trump Trump - 06Carbon Nanotubes Make Water Freeze Solid at Boiling Temperatures - 1270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:54:58] <exec> 08└─We're already offtopic, and I down modded Takyon to try and discourage the political zingers in our discussions. But, now that we're here, what makes you say that the scientists value social justice more than science itself? It seems to me that they're worried about the future of scientific advancem...
[22:54:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Ice NIne - 06Carbon Nanotubes Make Water Freeze Solid at Boiling Temperatures - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:55:00] <exec> 08└─Nah, unless the carbon nanotubes are somehow self replicating with dissolved CO2 or something...
[22:55:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dwolla - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:55:20] <exec> 08└─who can tell what Current.com is doing -- their website says next to nothing and the only way to learn more is to give them an email address. No thanks.
[22:55:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:All 110 GB of Bitcoin's blockchain - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:55:27] <exec> 08└─having the advantage of blissful ignorance, it sounds like it is analogous to open-source s/w, where it is *possible* to audit the source code and *theoretically* catch any malfeasance going on, but *most* people don't, trusting the hive-mind will have a drone somewhere crunching the numbers and cat...
[22:55:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Person-to-Person? Allow me to be an ass... - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:55:33] <exec> 08└─unlike Paypal once sent you are guaranteed to never get it back if scammed or mis-directed, at least them weasels at Paypal will sometimes make sure you get it back.
[22:55:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03claywar [3069] (Score:1) 02Re:Why #2? - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:55:55] <exec> 08└─I'm pretty sure any U.S. financial institution can freeze your account
[22:56:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 406 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:56:24] <exec> 08└─You're being purposely obtuse, here. I know you're doing it on purpose because you're bright and can't be doing it by mistake. Please take a breath and bring back your A game. The world has entered a period of upheaval whose outcome none of us knows, and none of us can afford to parrot rote gibberis...
[22:56:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:56:25] <exec> 08└─The incredible fascist and xenophobic attitudes on display in the world right now are the future's biggest issue, period. I've been struggling with just what costs need to be paid for it to stop. And I'm absolutely not joking when I say that the ideas at Donald Trump's core base are approaching the...
[22:56:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:1, Flamebait) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 924 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:56:29] <exec> 08└─1) The statement about black people was not an ethnic joke. He was serious. Don't even fucking try to pass it off as a joke. From the International Business Times [ibtimes.com] (you can Google for a minute for sources, but I don't think you want to see the truth): 5. “Black guys counting my money...
[22:56:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:1) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 801 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:56:32] <exec> 08└─1) Seriously, you're reading that and you really don't understand that you're reading an anecdote about a bad joke? That's just stunning. "Look it up asshole." So, he's such a racist that he just vomits racist filth every time he opens his mouth, but it's too difficult for you to find a single link...
[22:56:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 507 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:56:34] <exec> 08└─You can keep trying to change reality, but it wasn't a joke, it wasn't an anecdote. I can see that it is simply too painful for you to accept that the apparent political party you support has been overrun by white nationalists. So, he's such a racist that he just vomits racist filth every time he o...
[22:56:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 1124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:56:40] <exec> 08└─I think the flamebait mod is unwarranted. It's a valid point. Language has been diluted to meaningless pablum. I could throw another term, "anti-Semite," out there as an additional example. It used to mean "a person who is prejudiced against Jews." Now it means "anyone a Jew doesn't like or disagree...
[22:56:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score:2) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:56:53] <exec> 08└─You are right, I went off-topic there, I just plain forgot this case was not about patents... But I am still of the opinion that blaming and shaming the manufacturers is hypocritical, if not exactly counterproductive. Here the problem appears to be a combination of free market forces and legislation...
[22:57:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not a patent - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:57:05] <exec> 08└─Thanks for pointing this out... I actually knew it, but forgot, and assumed patents were involved. And I know I am off-topic, but my response above was still valid. Most drug prices have nothing to do with free market, thanks hugely to patent protections.
[22:59:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Hooray! - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:59:37] <exec> 08└─Mother should I build the wall?
[22:59:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Trump better leans to say what he means - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:59:46] <exec> 08└─Your examples don't show that he isn't "thin-skinned," but rather that he is capable of not holding a grudge.
[22:59:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Trump better leans to say what he means - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:59:50] <exec> 08└─He just knows he has no idea how to be president and his pool of government experts is small. He knows that after he repays his cronies with positions the remainder have to be filled with the most competent people that will work with him or he's fucked.
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[23:54:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score:2) 02Exploration - 06New Mini Robot Sub Unveiled at the National Oceanography Centre - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:54:44] <exec> 08└─Will we finally find Atlantis?
[23:54:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Trump Trump Trump - 06Carbon Nanotubes Make Water Freeze Solid at Boiling Temperatures - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:54:57] <exec> 08└─I always wondered why anybody would possibly want to burn the Library at Alexandria and murder its head librarian. In this brave new era of duckspeak and bellyfeel, I think I'm beginning to see what might have happened. Protip: if you're a scientist without CCW, you might get Trumped. CCW is the onl...
[23:55:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Seems like a great supervillian weapon - 06Carbon Nanotubes Make Water Freeze Solid at Boiling Temperatures - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:55:03] <exec> 08└─Just shoot somebody with a tranq-dart filled with this stuff and freeze their bloodstream solid...
[23:55:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:All 110 GB of Bitcoin's blockchain - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:55:28] <exec> 08└─thank you, jncf
[23:55:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why #2? - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 828 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:55:56] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PayPal#Regulation [wikipedia.org] > In the United States, PayPal is licensed as a money transmitter, on a state-by-state basis.[87][88] But state laws vary, as do their definitions of banks, narrow banks, money services businesses and money transmitters. Although PayPal...
[23:56:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03lgw [2836] (Score:2) 02Re:You don't "fire" a service - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 547 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:56:01] <exec> 08└─Let me give you a 3-step process for getting rich. Save half your take-home payInvest in broad-based index stock ETFs, or "target-year" funds, or something similarly boringBe patient Whether you just understand how wealth works, or follow a religion such as Rich Dad Poor Dad or Mr Mustache, you do i...
[23:56:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03mr_mischief [4884] (Score:2) 02Re:You don't "fire" a service - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:56:03] <exec> 08└─Don't forget Financial Peace University. Dave Ramsay has his own little niche out there.
[23:56:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You don't "fire" a service - 06I Just Fired PayPal -- What is the Best Alternate Person to Person Payment System? - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:56:09] <exec> 08└─If he/she is American, nothing wrong with using a term his/her President-elect is famous for using.... just saying =)
[23:56:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:1) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 940 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:56:35] <exec> 08└─"You can keep trying to change reality, but it wasn't a joke, it wasn't an anecdote." It was literally an anecdote about a bad joke. "What is stunning is that you continue to ignore the actual statements[...]" It's quite astonishing that you just put out two more sizable paragraphs of this rhetoric...
[23:56:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:56:40] <exec> 08└─For adults, it's harder, but still possible: 3. Put adults in situations where they have to work together closely with people who don't look like them. A classic example of this is the military: It's really hard to hate people for their skin color when someone with that skin color saved your life in...
[23:56:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score:2) 02Re:Controversial - 06Sydney High School Students Recreate Active Ingredient of Daraprim for $20 - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:56:57] <exec> 08└─complaining and shaming is the most effective thing we peons can do. Our votes are unlikely to sway the propaganda and politically corrupt machine, and there is little else we can do.
[23:57:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03goody [2135] (Score:2) 02Re:patches - 06More Than 1 Million Google Accounts Breached by Gooligan Malware - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:57:38] <exec> 08└─It's not so much the monoculture that's the problem, it's the fact that the handset manufacturers lose interest in the devices 10 minutes after they've been sold and won't release updates and patches to customers, instead pushing them to buy more new and shiny.
[23:58:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Re:Iceland is awesome - 06The Frozen Banana Republic - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:58:07] <exec> 08└─Bugger all that. How are the girls?
[23:59:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Condensed - 06Dear Journalists: Stop Taking Trump Literally - 86 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:59:59] <exec> 08└─Long version: none of the rhetoric matters until there are some policies on the table.