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[00:45:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Uncle_Al [1108] (Score:2) 02wavelengths - 06Scientists Develop New Optical Circuit Components to Manipulate Light - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:04] <exec> 08└─"emitted as light with a shorter wavelength compared to the initial input. For example, if the input light is green, the output light can be red." nope.
[00:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Metaphors - 06Quantum Physics Offers New Way to Factor Numbers - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:23] <exec> 08└─What do you all think about using meta data as a metaphor. This approach sets up a system, then instead of processing through the actual data it looks at the meta data of how the simulator is running. Analysis of the meta data shows us aggregate results that point to the answer.
[00:46:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03chromas [34] (Score:2) 02Re:Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:46:02] <exec> 08└─SeaMonkey's pretty good except no wheel-click to close tabs. No thanks.
[00:46:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:46:08] <exec> 08└─Yes it was. Why do I need search in the URL bar, search in the search bar and just to be annoying, yet another search bar cluttering up the new tab window? I mean, yea, I get it, for years Firefox was kept as a pet by Google. But seriously, three places to type that all do the exact same thing?
[00:46:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Celestial [4891] (Score:2) 02Re:Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:46:10] <exec> 08└─It'll get better. IIRC, Mozilla is talking about getting rid of the search bar!
[00:46:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 764 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:46:13] <exec> 08└─I would not choose to endorse the use of a browser that sends the URL of every place I visit, or every typo I make in it while trying to visit something, to some centralized authority that then parses my typing and decides which result to best send me to, or at best keeps a log of what I did. The aw...
[00:47:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Isn't this... - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:47:04] <exec> 08└─Everyone with a lot of money is evil! Everyone without any money is good! Hooray, where's my Certificate For Graduation In Idiotic Platitude School!!!?
[00:47:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 1281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:47:53] <exec> 08└─You have to be careful not to let anecdotes shape your opinions. There will always be examples of shitty human behavior, but don't become jaded unless it really is the vast majority. In this case it sounds like you helped out some pretty "bleh" type people, but I'm sure there are plenty of others wh...
[00:49:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03mechanicjay [7] (Score:1) 02Re:Cognitive Dissonance and Fake News - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump. - 682 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:49:34] <exec> 08└─My head is spinning from that article. I think that might be deliberate. I'll need to go back a read it again to figure out what is going on there. I guess the important distinction for me, is whenever we start dividing people into groups, you risk alienating one group in favor of another. I know it...
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[01:45:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Re:Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 840 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:53] <exec> 08└─From http://linux.palemoon.org [palemoon.org] Installation, uninstallation and upgrades are normally managed with the Pale Moon for Linux installer. However, you can also download Pale Moon for Linux as a bzipped tarball that can be extracted and run from any location on your system. You can also i...
[01:46:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Re:Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:46:05] <exec> 08└─That hasn't been the case in quite a while: the Pale Moon team produces generic 32- & 64-bit Linux binaries, plus a growing number of distros have their own copies in their repos.
[01:46:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 134 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:46:08] <exec> 08└─It's what happens when you permanently shift all of your resources as an organization from "software development" to "social justice".
[01:46:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03iamjacksusername [1479] 02Re:Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 613 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:46:11] <exec> 08└─They have been off the rails for a while. The rapid-release cycle was just the icing on the cake. They are tanking everything that made FF as good as it was. I think the symptoms first started around Firefox 2. That seems to be when they started mindless screwing with the UI. Remember the "Awesome B...
[01:46:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03zeigerpuppy [1298] (Score:2) 02Sorry Firefox, I did love you - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 909 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:46:26] <exec> 08└─When we first met, you promised freedom and were so open to, well, everything. We browsed through the fields, hand in mouse, happy at the Internet and its wonders. But as time went on, you seemed to shut me out more and more. Things we used to do just didn't work any more and your tabs would become...
[01:47:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:What a clusterfuck - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:47:05] <exec> 08└─Was the massively heavy frame an earthquake endurance feature forced on them? Also, standard practice in buildings is to drive piles to the point of refusal, which is said to be just as good as bed rock, (and in fact in some places bedrock is not reachable). Of course in the bay area you always have...
[01:49:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cognitive Dissonance and Fake News - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump. - 547 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:49:32] <exec> 08└─>I'm still not sure the "SJW" actually exists. Read the guardian sometime, they exist. They seem to have gutted the left too, makes me smh to be honest fam, identity politics is a distraction, its not about identity, its about class, identity politics has only divided the left, the fight should be b...
[01:49:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cognitive Dissonance and Fake News - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump. - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:49:33] <exec> 08└─"SJW types"
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[02:45:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02relevant news for SN readers - 06Alzheimer's Disease Proteins Linked to Vision Loss Among Older People - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:06] <exec> 08└─SoylentNews is old people
[02:45:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Great - 06Alzheimer's Disease Proteins Linked to Vision Loss Among Older People - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:09] <exec> 08└─I'm up to three pairs of glasses now: one for 0-18", one for 18" to 6', and one 6' and beyond ... wait, what was my point?
[02:45:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:wavelengths - 06Scientists Develop New Optical Circuit Components to Manipulate Light - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:45:18] <exec> 08└─Wavelength, frequency, what's the difference? It's all eggheaded techy crap. The important thing is to get your name published. There's money in attention whoring!
[02:46:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''no wheel-click to close tabs'' - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:46:18] <exec> 08└─Yeah, that bugged me too. I got over it. -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
[02:46:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''the submitter...'' - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:46:37] <exec> 08└─The submitter indicated in the dept. line that this doesn't even have a completed specification--but that hasn't stopped Mozilla from announcing it as a "standard". This reminds me very much of how M$ and its "partners" rammed OOXML through Fast-Track approval at ISO. -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews....
[02:47:00] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] 02Re:Figures - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 924 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:47:00] <exec> 08└─Sweet, TMB ruining shit again. I really appreciate the freedom of speech focus on this site, and I will never advocate censorship, but I will repeatedly ask that you and other such users stop degrading the quality of discussions here. As one of the founders / maintainers I would think you would have...
[02:47:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02adjust your expectations - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:47:03] <exec> 08└─Really, I came here expecting a jab at millennials, and I was not disappointed. Thank the Niggery Buzzard!
[02:47:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Division - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:47:40] <exec> 08└─1. Get rid of anonymous posting. 2. Allow only positive moderation. 3. Moderation is not anonymous.
[02:47:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:2) 02Anonymity - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:47:42] <exec> 08└─1. Get rid of anonymous posting. 2. Allow only positive moderation. 3. Moderation is not anonymous.
[02:48:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 1651 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:48:14] <exec> 08└─So, yes, there are a certain number of impoverished people who do nothing but expect handouts, just as there are a certain number of C-level employees who expect nothing but bonuses and raises no matter how badly they lead their division of a corporation that is losing money. What this particular la...
[02:48:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:The obvious question - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 1413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:48:19] <exec> 08└─WalMart giving people sub-subsistence level employment and teaching their employees how to work the "social safety net" is what I find most disgusting about "my tax dollars at work." I don't want, nor need, anything from WalMart at their "deep discount" prices that are only possible with their tax s...
[02:48:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 1760 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:48:26] <exec> 08└─I'm sorry, where in this plan do we stop taxing the rich so they can "trickle down" the extra money to the rest of us? What you propose doesn't sound realistic, it certainly doesn't match anything I've seen implemented in the U.S. economic system in my lifetime. Are you a Communist, or just an idiot...
[02:48:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:48:34] <exec> 08└─...the idea that "protecting" is a government's job
[02:48:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 1903 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:48:36] <exec> 08└─We could start with police, move on to the military, and the courts. That's government protecting you from basic violations of law, international threats, and also protecting the operation of businesses under the rule of law. It would seem that the three line up with the other three, but there's act...
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[03:45:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:relevant news for SN readers - 06Alzheimer's Disease Proteins Linked to Vision Loss Among Older People - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:45:09] <exec> 08└─I don't really see a connection between the CPU manufacturer and impaired vision, but maybe I'll pay a little extra for Intel Inside on my next desktop PC.
[03:45:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Great - 06Alzheimer's Disease Proteins Linked to Vision Loss Among Older People - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:45:12] <exec> 08└─I consider your situation same as mine. I do not have a problem with resolution, but I have a problem with focusing. Seems my eyes are like a camera with a stuck focus adjustment and asymetrical lenses which focus differently in the X and Y plane ( astigmatism ) , and use lenses to compensate.
[03:45:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Early Diagnosis - 06Alzheimer's Disease Proteins Linked to Vision Loss Among Older People - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:45:14] <exec> 08└─I met someone years ago that was working on a diagnostic test for Alzheimer's. He said that deficiencies in their brain's ability to contrast visual input was one of the first symptoms but it would often go unnoticed as vision loss is expected with age.
[03:45:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Not ready for prime time - 06Quantum Physics Offers New Way to Factor Numbers - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:45:39] <exec> 08└─It's an important precursor, but there's tons of things that work out fine in math, but aren't reasonable solutions when built. If they haven't even built a test unit for their design, then they haven't actually done any science and shouldn't have people think they have. It is an important step and...
[03:45:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Basically analog computer at quantum level - 06Quantum Physics Offers New Way to Factor Numbers - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:45:42] <exec> 08└─Look up "analog computer" - an electrical circuit can be rigged up to model a specific algebraic formula and get almost instant evaluation/approximation.
[03:47:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Figures - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:47:12] <exec> 08└─You really should acquire a sense of humor. That's entirely too high a level of butthurt for a joke that wasn't a particularly harsh or even realistic dig.
[03:48:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:The obvious question - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:48:29] <exec> 08└─WalMart giving people sub-subsistence level employment and teaching their employees how to work the "social safety net" is what I find most disgusting about "my tax dollars at work."
[03:48:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:48:43] <exec> 08└─if the government's job isn't protecting the people it represents, then what is the government's job?
[03:48:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:48:45] <exec> 08└─So, before this whole nasty "organized labor" thing, we had apprenticeships in places like tanneries, where an average apprentice had an average life expectancy of 5 years after taking the job.
[03:48:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 412 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:48:48] <exec> 08└─Because the government will arrest me if I support myself by hunting deer out of season and throwing up a yurt to live in anywhere I want. As soon as government feels it's their job to decide how I cannot meet my basic needs, reasonable people conclude they also have a responsibility to make sure th...
[03:49:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Phage Viruses - 06Predatory Bacteria could be a New Weapon Against Superbugs - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:49:20] <exec> 08└─Phage do mutate faster than bacteria, but bacteria have an adaptive response (CRISPR) that can compensate for the difference. Also, many phage can go into a dormant state and protect bacteria from being infected with similar strains of the virus
[03:52:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Another editor fucking with hyperlinks - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:52:29] <exec> 08└─Need a coloring book? A safe space? Do we need to bring in puppies? Extra tissues? Should we cancel your exams? Quit being whiny. If your biggest complaint about is a changed link, you really have it good.
[03:53:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nollij [4559] (Score:2) 02Re:No difference - 06Aloe Vera... Sans Aloe Vera - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:53:23] <exec> 08└─There are a disturbingly high number of people that believe simply replacing HFCS with plain sugar makes anything infinitely healthier. You can see this marketed in the various "natural" and "organic" brands all across your local grocery.
[03:53:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nollij [4559] (Score:2) 02Re:Masterfoods "Guacamole" - 06Aloe Vera... Sans Aloe Vera - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:53:37] <exec> 08└─I'm afraid to ask - what did they use as filler to replace the main ingredient?
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[04:45:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Re:infinite stupidity - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:45:08] <exec> 08└─Night sky is dark because universe surrounded by dancing niggers.
[04:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:infinite stupidity - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:45:11] <exec> 08└─The bright points of light are hobo fires.
[04:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03pgc [1600] (Score:2) 02Re:infinite stupidity - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:45:13] <exec> 08└─Infinite what? Pretty useless without units.
[04:45:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:infinite stupidity - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:45:15] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimensionless_physical_constant [wikipedia.org]
[04:46:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:46:39] <exec> 08└─I've seen businesses completely destroyed in the name of "social justice".
[04:47:15] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] 02Re:Figures - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 1105 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:47:15] <exec> 08└─Nah, what figures is that cheating, lying, covering up, and denialism is going on, just like with Global Warming. Pathetic that some of the residents are in denial that there are foundation problems, and are doing all they can to suppress fact finding and research. Perhaps they're anxious to sell th...
[04:47:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02Re:Great Start! - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 451 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:47:33] <exec> 08└─Its semi-insightful in that during the next earthquake those 58 floors might simply tip over and land on other buildings. I mean, just because shoddy foundation piles snuck past inspection doesn't prove the rest of the building is not equally shoddily constructed. Note that it was completed somewhat...
[04:47:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02And it all started as a negotation trick - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:47:55] <exec> 08└─Imagine that all this comes from Trump trying to get a better deal for his TV reality, and never accepting to retreat once "running for president" started to roll. That is what Micheal Moore claims http://www.huffingtonpost.com [huffingtonpost.com] a...
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[04:47:56] <exec> 08└─I know it's hard for you to imagine, but there are people from other countries reading this site. I am one of those. Pardon my french, but I will shit over your sacred Constitution any day I please, at least as long as the politicians of your country assert that its protections only apply to your ow...
[04:50:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cognitive Dissonance and Fake News - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump. - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:50:14] <exec> 08└─>I'm still not sure the "SJW" actually exists.
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[05:44:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:4, Insightful) 02It is bad form... - 06Alleged San Francisco Muni ‘Hacker’ Demanded $73,000 Ransom - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:44:56] <exec> 08└─... to torrent warez while at work.
[05:44:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03hopp [2833] (Score:2) 02Hmmm - 06Alleged San Francisco Muni ‘Hacker’ Demanded $73,000 Ransom - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:44:58] <exec> 08└─I think cryptom27@yandex.com needs to subscribe to a few email lists. Also probably /cryptom??@yandex.com/ should also subscribe to those high volume email lists.
[05:45:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:infinite stupidity - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 1373 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:45:11] <exec> 08└─Infinite what? Yeah, what? I can't hear you since it is infinite! OK, two serious points. Point One: in infinity, units do not matter, since infinity mean in-finis, no end, so it does not really matter what unit you are using, since all units are infinite, they have ends, that is what makes them a...
[05:45:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02the deep reality is not at all - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:45:13] <exec> 08└─Who says that the uncertainty can be eliminated? Refined, refined, sure. But that's the base chaos that cosmos is built upon. Cosmos is just one possibility in the endless chaos. A stable phenomenon with locality and entropy. Something regular, like a glider in the game of life. Unexpected, yet it /...
[05:45:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:TL:DR - 06Flying Start for World's First Graphene-Enhanced Model Aircraft - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:45:40] <exec> 08└─Buy some graphene reinforced prepreg and you too can build the worlds first graphene enhanced whatever: http://netcomposites.com [netcomposites.com]
[05:48:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:The obvious question - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:48:44] <exec> 08└─Like fervently posting about these kind of issues on the internet whenever they come up? I'm not spending much time worrying about it, but whenever the opportunity comes along to voice an opinion, I care enough about this class of problem to voice my opinion.
[05:49:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 1507 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:49:00] <exec> 08└─Note that tanners were just a single example of hazardous labor practices before we had labor protection laws - many industries were not good for the people who worked in them: http://content.ucpress.edu [ucpress.edu] do your own Google search if you're really interested in w...
[05:50:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Gold standard - 06Zimbabwe to Start Circulating New Bond Notes on Monday - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:50:37] <exec> 08└─They always start at 1:1 to the USD. And then it always goes to heck. Al that varies is the speed. Zim currency is only backed by how much mineral wealth China can strip mine out while propping up Mugabe. And the "West", don't forget, eagerly helped achieve this disaster in the 1970's. Now 10 millio...
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[06:44:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It is bad form... - 06Alleged San Francisco Muni ‘Hacker’ Demanded $73,000 Ransom - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:44:57] <exec> 08└─Unless the warez are work-related. Sometimes you really do legitimately need keycode generators for business-critical abandonware.
[06:44:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02To pay or not to pay? - 06Alleged San Francisco Muni ‘Hacker’ Demanded $73,000 Ransom - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:45:00] <exec> 08└─On the one hand, paying the ransom for decryption is the easy way out, especially if you can afford it. On the other hand, the attacker cannot be trusted on principle, might take your money and run, and could launch further attacks for spite.
[06:45:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03charon [5660] (Score:2) 02Re:To pay or not to pay? - 06Alleged San Francisco Muni ‘Hacker’ Demanded $73,000 Ransom - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:45:02] <exec> 08└─It could get worse. This related article says that the hacker is claiming to have internal data including emails and payroll. [gizmodo.com]
[06:45:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:To pay or not to pay? - 06Alleged San Francisco Muni ‘Hacker’ Demanded $73,000 Ransom - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:45:04] <exec> 08└─In an ideal world, off-site, off-line, verified backups would solve the problem.
[06:45:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:To pay or not to pay? - 06Alleged San Francisco Muni ‘Hacker’ Demanded $73,000 Ransom - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:45:06] <exec> 08└─The same ideal world where frictionless spherical cash cows give basic income?
[06:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:infinite stupidity - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:45:20] <exec> 08└─It's radians. Since, nobody actually knows what they're for, it's the obvious choice for stupidity. Plus, they're attached to every number in existence already.
[06:45:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:wavelengths - 06Scientists Develop New Optical Circuit Components to Manipulate Light - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:45:41] <exec> 08└─Wavelength Division Multiplexing sounds cooler than Frequency Division Multiplexing: because optics!
[06:45:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] 02Re:Not ready for prime time - 06Quantum Physics Offers New Way to Factor Numbers - 146 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:45:59] <exec> 08└─I call bullshit on this... something that hasn't been invented could be used by something that hasn't been invented to break something that works.
[06:46:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Basically analog computer at quantum level - 06Quantum Physics Offers New Way to Factor Numbers - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:46:04] <exec> 08└─Yes, but analog computers, unlike quantum ones, are no more powerful than digital computers.
[06:47:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03zeigerpuppy [1298] 02Sorry Firefox, I did love you - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 909 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:47:08] <exec> 08└─When we first met, you promised freedom and were so open to, well, everything. We browsed through the fields, hand in mouse, happy at the Internet and its wonders. But as time went on, you seemed to shut me out more and more. Things we used to do just didn't work any more and your tabs would become...
[06:50:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Cognitive Dissonance and Fake News - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump. - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:50:33] <exec> 08└─I know it's simplistic, but do we have to be so divisive over every goddamn thing in this world?
[06:50:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score:2) 02Re:keeping the money at home - 06Zimbabwe to Start Circulating New Bond Notes on Monday - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:50:47] <exec> 08└─1) Currency wear out. You'll need a new source if they are in actual circulation, and it is easier to print your own than to always need to go back to the US, especially unofficially. 2) This opens the possibility of an easier transition to a
[06:50:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02Zimbabwe - 06Zimbabwe to Start Circulating New Bond Notes on Monday - 807 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:50:55] <exec> 08└─Zimbabwe fascinates me because, whereas I endorse multi-ethnic states, that country was better off ruled by the white minority. And by that I don't mean, "better for some," but better for whites and blacks there even if the blacks were disenfranchised. Rhodesia was the breadbasket of Southern Africa...
[06:52:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Beat it like a bitch - 06Failure of Promising Alzheimer Drug Strikes a Blow to Theory - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:52:05] <exec> 08└─That sounds an awful lot like picking your own poison. Ultimately, they both suck and if you don't deliver results you'll have issues with funding. Unfortunately, that means positive results, there's few corporations like Edison's back in the day where you can try thousands of times without success...
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[07:44:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Gaia is depressed - 06Researchers Find Biggest Exposed Fault On Earth - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:44:57] <exec> 08└─No prob. MDC can sail out to sea and toss some happy pills into the ocean. A happy Earth is a healthy Earth.
[07:44:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not news - 06Researchers Find Biggest Exposed Fault On Earth - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:44:59] <exec> 08└─Who cares now? She lost the elections.
[07:45:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not news - 06Researchers Find Biggest Exposed Fault On Earth - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:01] <exec> 08└─Hillary is a giant cunt?
[07:45:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score:2) 02Re:To pay or not to pay? - 06Alleged San Francisco Muni ‘Hacker’ Demanded $73,000 Ransom - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:15] <exec> 08└─Hey, don't give away all my business secrets!
[07:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:To pay or not to pay? - 06Alleged San Francisco Muni ‘Hacker’ Demanded $73,000 Ransom - 1230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:16] <exec> 08└─I have been hacked too, most likely by javascript on an ad. That was several years ago. You guys saved my ass on that one. Since then its NoScript, and if MalwareBytes couldn't clean up the mess, CloneZilla. I had backups and it took me several days to recover most everything. Now, using the wisd...
[07:45:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Beryllium Sphere (r) (5062) (Score:2) 02A bit of history about San Francisco IT - 06Alleged San Francisco Muni ‘Hacker’ Demanded $73,000 Ransom - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:45:18] <exec> 08└─A sysadmin there named Terry Childs got quite dramatic in 2008 about what he saw as technical mismanagement. http://www.infoworld.com [infoworld.com]
[07:45:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:infinite stupidity - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:33] <exec> 08└─Infinite stupidity:: nobody actually knows:: Francis Maximal probability irony drive is overloaded! Core breech in 10 seconds! Please proceed to your escape pods immediately. Fucking Francis!
[07:47:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03segwonk [3259] (Score:1) 02Re:Great Start! - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 580 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:57] <exec> 08└─Can a (structural) engineer comment on this: they seem to have stanched the tilting of the Pisa Tower – can they do the same for this one? As I understand it, they used slant drilling to introduce a series of holes in the ground under the "uphill" side of the leaning tower of Pisa, which caused i...
[07:48:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Judge paid off? - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 623 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:48:45] <exec> 08└─I'm sure we've all seen this sort of abuse: A top notch employee is enticed into a "promotion" - and his net take-home pay drops by 5, 10, even 15 percent. And, in exchange for a stupid title, he gets to work 60 to 80 hours per week. I work with a man who has chased after a title for the past 15 yea...
[07:48:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 594 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:50] <exec> 08└─I know what the cure for that problem would be, and I try to encourage others to do it: Stop flying! Seriously, if you travel cross-country on the ground, all of a sudden those small towns that you've never heard of become landmarks. You can see why somebody might like living in rural Kansas or Colo...
[07:49:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 97 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:49:25] <exec> 08└─The good: As always, the (supposed) intentions are pure: Pay people for the hours that they work.
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[08:45:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Is it... - 06Researchers Find Biggest Exposed Fault On Earth - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:45:09] <exec> 08└─Researchers Find Biggest Exposed Fault On Earth
[08:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is it... - 06Researchers Find Biggest Exposed Fault On Earth - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:45:10] <exec> 08└─Let's have only unkempt pimply faced Linux nerds elect the president. We'll call it the oligarchy of the elite.
[08:45:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:A bit of history about San Francisco IT - 06Alleged San Francisco Muni ‘Hacker’ Demanded $73,000 Ransom - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:45:28] <exec> 08└─Interesting article. Does not surprise me. People do get a bit paranoid when they know that the only reason they have a job is because they know something unique, and once that cat is out of the bag, they face being forced to share this knowledge with someone else who will do the same job for less...
[08:45:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The Terry Childs story - 06Alleged San Francisco Muni ‘Hacker’ Demanded $73,000 Ransom - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:45:29] <exec> 08└─I'm surprised that you missed|don't remember that. It was a pretty big deal on the other site every time there was a new development while that drama was playing out. There were 2 radically opposed camps among the comments from admins. -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
[08:46:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Basically analog computer at quantum level - 06Quantum Physics Offers New Way to Factor Numbers - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:46:29] <exec> 08└─uhm... it makes no sense to talk about the power of an analog computer. think of it this way: a mirror is an analog computer, a cell phone with a self facing camera, with the camera turned on, is a digital computer.
[08:47:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Covering the reaction and not the news - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:33] <exec> 08└─their goal with this change is to increase the decoupling between the Firefox internals and extension code
[08:48:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Entropy [4228] (Score:2) 02Re:What sinks may also rise - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:48:26] <exec> 08└─They should have built heavier buildings--Really they are to blame for this mess.
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[09:44:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02billionaire land owners rejoice - 06A Satellite Image Could Change the Way We Build Cities - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:44:56] <exec> 08└─Billionaires will be able to save a few pennies! Such progress. So wonderful.
[09:45:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02They found Microsoft - 06Researchers Find Biggest Exposed Fault On Earth - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:45:09] <exec> 08└─Whoop de do. We're known where Microsoft is for years.
[09:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:They found Microsoft - 06Researchers Find Biggest Exposed Fault On Earth - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:45:11] <exec> 08└─Finland the birthplace of Linux is so great, Torvalds felt the need to relocate to America where the money is, because Linus is a greedy motherfucker.
[09:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:They found Microsoft - 06Researchers Find Biggest Exposed Fault On Earth - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:45:13] <exec> 08└─[Citation required]
[09:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The joys of proprietary software - 06Alleged San Francisco Muni ‘Hacker’ Demanded $73,000 Ransom - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:45:32] <exec> 08└─Don't you just love inputting loong random character strings to your programs or lugging around dongles or other such shite? You realize there is a better way?
[09:45:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The joys of proprietary software - 06Alleged San Francisco Muni ‘Hacker’ Demanded $73,000 Ransom - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:45:33] <exec> 08└─Are you advocating for open source ransomware? Won't that kind of defeat the purpose?
[09:45:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score:1) 02Re:infinite stupidity - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:45:48] <exec> 08└─I have to challenge your point. This seems to be clearly a non-sequitur: Infinite means no boundaries, and since there is no difference within infinity, [...] there can only be one, so infinity is unity. It is perfectly possible to calculate with infinite values [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extend...
[09:45:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02While the world has moved on - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:45:53] <exec> 08└─USians still measure are with their square feet...
[09:46:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score:1) 02Re:Applications are many - 06Quantum Physics Offers New Way to Factor Numbers - 416 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:30] <exec> 08└─Your first assertion is probably false. Prime factorization has at least not been proven to be NP-hard and it is suspected to be less complex. Your second assertion is true on the other hand: both ssh and https would fall with no implemented replacement at the moment, so that would have a huge impac...
[09:47:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:47:21] <exec> 08└─If that's the only issue with SeaMonkey, maybe one could write an extension for it?
[09:47:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:47:26] <exec> 08└─No, it's what happens when the developers stop listening to their users and think they know better what's good for the users than the users do.
[09:48:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03https [5248] (Score:2) 02Re:Figures - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:48:12] <exec> 08└─First, it's not a joke. Or funny. Second, it is a continuous whining, like that of a mosquito. Maybe with malaria. Just a sound, you say? Ignore it? FUCK YOU. You're the forum equivalent of water torture. Near as I can tell, you've got nothing but poison in your heart, and it regularly comes out in...
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[09:48:25] <exec> 08└─Well, actually, the Pisa tower started "leaning" during construction back then. To "fix" this, the original builders artificially "tilted" the tower during build, so it is impossible to "untilt" it now, since it would be counter-tilted! And, yes, i beleive straightening it all the way would not be d...
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[10:44:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02eliminate Homeland Security immediately - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:44:57] <exec> 08└─Convict every TSA agent of rape.
[10:44:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Huh? - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:44:59] <exec> 08└─First of all, it was Nuremberg that set the initial precedent that 'just following orders' wasn't a valid defence. Second, the Stanford Prison Experiment and the Milgram Experiment have so far failed the reproducibility test: It turns out that their 'random' selection of volunteers in the initial tr...
[10:45:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:infinite stupidity - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:45:58] <exec> 08└─Vapidity at 100%.
[10:45:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:infinite stupidity - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:45:59] <exec> 08└─Thank you for accurately reporting your own intelligence level.
[10:46:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:the deep reality is not at all - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:46:03] <exec> 08└─Who says that the uncertainty can be eliminated?
[10:46:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03WalksOnDirt [5854] (Score:2) 02Re:the deep reality is not at all - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:46:05] <exec> 08└─Avogadro's number should be whole. If it necessary to make it fractional to match the other constants we're doing something wrong.
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[10:46:32] <exec> 08└─In terms of impact resistance, the new wing is showing increased levels of impact resistance of up to 60% over a conventionally-skinned carbon fibre wing.
[10:47:14] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Celestial [4891] 02Re:Fuck Mozilla - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 51 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:47:14] <exec> 08└─I believe you mean "came to you on April 29, 2014."
[10:47:15] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03jmorris [4844] 02Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 251 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:47:15] <exec> 08└─Seriously, Moz Corp is farther off the rails than the systemd problem in Linux land. Fork em. Time to find out if the users really crave a browser that is locked down and hostile to addons or whether they would prefer to keep using what they have now.
[10:47:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:47:22] <exec> 08└─Looks like you either failed to follow all of the instructions (which include the addition of a repo and key to your apt config), or were too stupid to even accept that might be instructions that would need following. If you want a single-button point and drool OS, Mac is that way --->
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[11:45:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Nazi trials in Israel - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:45:01] <exec> 08└─I never trust the judgement of a court that is ok with prosecuting people it has kidnapped in order to put them on trial.
[11:45:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nazi trials in Israel - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:45:02] <exec> 08└─Except that this one was a trial in Germany, and Oskar Groening was already living in Germany, and thus didn't have to be kidnapped in order to put him on trial. Or in short: Your comment is completely irrelevant for the case at hand.
[11:45:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Nature vs. nurture - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 873 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:45:04] <exec> 08└─Poetic justice will be when the ones pursing prosecutions now are held to the same standard should there be any doubts. How they can even say this with a straight face is beyond me. It is very easy to suppose how brave other people should be. Very different when the gun is held to your own head. And...
[11:45:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Let's Lynch Him! - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:45:06] <exec> 08└─Star Trek did it. http://memory-alpha.wikia.com(episode) [wikia.com] A filing clerk tries unsuccessfully to confess to war crimes, is released, then gets murdered by a racist.
[11:45:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is it... - 06Researchers Find Biggest Exposed Fault On Earth - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:45:25] <exec> 08└─technocracy
[11:46:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Applications are many - 06Quantum Physics Offers New Way to Factor Numbers - 544 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:46:49] <exec> 08└─The factorisation is probably order finding (Shor's algorithm certainly is). Discrete logarithms are also cracked with order-finding algorithms. Elliptic curves are just a quirky group within which one needs to find orders in order to crack. So I think I disagree - if integer factorisation falls, EC...
[11:47:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:47:38] <exec> 08└─Min is based on Electron. Electron is based on Chromium and Node.js. There's little that is minimal about min.
[11:47:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:47:48] <exec> 08└─Sounds a lot like social justice to me.
[11:48:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Figures - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 394 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:48:35] <exec> 08└─Oh now I call serious butthurt there. I make a lameass joke, you go absurdly over the top with rage. This is yet another reason why everyone else is disgusted with Millennials. You need two things to stop this happening in the future: A sense of humor.A sense of perspective. Get both of those and...
[11:49:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmoschner [3296] (Score:2) 02Environment - 06Nanoparticle Coating Could Detect Architectural Stress Before Damage Occurs - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:49:29] <exec> 08└─Curious to know how dirt, exhaust fumes, and other environmental factors will impact the coating or if they will interfere with reading the results. Also curious how this plays with the paint or other coatings that are put on structures to help prevent corrosion.
[11:49:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:49:54] <exec> 08└─They didn't care for anything they owned, not matter how nice, and expected others (government, local churches, etc) to do it for them.
[11:50:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 827 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:50:18] <exec> 08└─Funny how that link doesn't support your claim that tannery apprentices had a life expectancy of five years. And this discussion of protection from workplace dangers ignores an important point. Life expectancy correlates strongly with labor power. Work week reduction was written into law with this b...
[11:50:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:50:21] <exec> 08└─As soon as government feels it's their job to decide how I cannot meet my basic needs, reasonable people conclude they also have a responsibility to make sure that companies cannot take undue advantage of my limited (by that same government) options to meet my basic needs.
[11:53:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03bart9h [767] (Score:2) 02sentient - 06Every Unix Commit from 1970 to Now() as a Pretty Video - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:53:00] <exec> 08└─It is not hard to imagine code trees with magnitudes more code becoming sentient.
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[12:45:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Huh? - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 436 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:45:04] <exec> 08└─Milgram himself replicated the experiment numerous times, in many different populations, with groups of differing backgrounds. It is still robust (in hands of other researchers) nearly fifty years later. And even today, people are still extending that result; just last week I read about a study in w...
[12:45:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02somethings not right - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:09] <exec> 08└─sounds like a WITCH HUNT: 95 years old in 2016. prosecuted for things done ... 2016-1943=73 (!) years ago? real justice should be swift! eye for an eye -VS- the other cheek, eh?
[12:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Really touchy subject - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 790 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:11] <exec> 08└─One of the cornerstones of obedience to authority is that the obeyer is an agent of the commander, with the understanding that he will do the bidding of the commander in exchange of being held harmless for his actions. If individuals are held individually accountable for their own actions, a very cr...
[12:45:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Medical Research - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 533 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:13] <exec> 08└─I always wonder if this will ever come into play against medical researchers who are just producing BS* "to survive". I don't think the attempt to abdicate responsibility like that would really stand up to public scrutiny. That fear is one reason I try to steer clear of healthcare work these days. *...
[12:45:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Disquiet - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 2925 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:16] <exec> 08└─I have some disquiet at this. I don't speak German, was not present at the trial, and have not read the transcripts. That being said, if the situation is one where one refused to do the job at risk of (possibly severe) punishment, then expecting the powerless to refuse to obey the orders of the powe...
[12:46:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:While the world has moved on - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 542 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:46:22] <exec> 08└─this was done so tools and machinery could not be imported from "ev1l" europe. if the "native" americans were forced into their own units , they would not fall into the trap of being dependent on european manufacturing to provide the tools that can make more tools ... i think. if the european just d...
[12:47:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Not ready for prime time - 06Quantum Physics Offers New Way to Factor Numbers - 666 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:47:04] <exec> 08└─> factor numbers as large as ~50,000 No, no, no, no, no, and six times no. It has factored a class of numbers, some of the members of the class are as large as tens of thousands. However, this class of numbers can be factored with *linear time* algorithms classically (which can also be called *const...
[12:49:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Great Start! - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:49:03] <exec> 08└─I've googled the tipping tower in CA and its pretty ugly, stereotypical, not going to be a tourist magnet. I think they're safe there if the engineers make it plumb again.
[12:50:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:The obvious question - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 987 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:50:12] <exec> 08└─Well, yeah, obviously. A business that can't operate outside of a socialist economy is not really worth much. First of all its unethical to run a business thats theoretically capitalist but actually relies on socialist handouts Secondly its a race to the bottom. Why shouldn't my employer pay me $1 a...
[12:50:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:The obvious question - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:50:18] <exec> 08└─There are genuine problems in the world. Walmart hiring poor people just doesn't make the cut, especially when that's a thing you want.
[12:50:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:The obvious question - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:50:20] <exec> 08└─Why?
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[13:45:19] <exec> 08└─Nope, you have to read the paper. There they say it wasn't actually a replication, instead they assumed the original results were correct (or something). Because 79% of Milgram’s participants who went past this point continued to the end of the shock generator’s range, reasonable estimates could...
[13:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Huh? - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:21] <exec> 08└─a study in which intrepid experimenters asked whether people might administer electric shocks to robots, under similar circumstances.
[13:45:25] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] 02Re:Nature vs. nurture - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 450 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:26] <exec> 08└─A very dark part of me couldn't help noting that they only started switching to the "we don't care if there's no evidence that you ever did a damn thing, or that they'd kill you if you objected, you *gasp* saw something" approach after they ran out of people that had actually done something worthy o...
[13:45:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nature vs. nurture - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 775 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:28] <exec> 08└─Oh, I could speculate... vengeance. The power dynamic has changed, and especially today there is a tendency to punish beyond any usefulness or reason. This is not justice. This is barbarism given the sheen of respectability, much like... There was a vid I can't find at the moment which was discussin...
[13:45:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Nature vs. nurture - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 1150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:30] <exec> 08└─I've mentioned this book before on this general topic: "The Holocaust Industry: Reflections on the Exploitation of Jewish Suffering," by Norman G. Finkelstein. The Amazon book review says: "Finkelstein contends that the main danger posed to the memory of Nazism’s victims comes from some of the ver...
[13:45:35] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03pTamok [3042] 02Disquiet - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 2925 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:45:36] <exec> 08└─I have some disquiet at this. I don't speak German, was not present at the trial, and have not read the transcripts. That being said, if the situation is one where one refused to do the job at risk of (possibly severe) punishment, then expecting the powerless to refuse to obey the orders of the powe...
[13:45:37] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] 02Re:Disquiet - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 530 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:38] <exec> 08└─The Left has been obsessed with morally convicting the American Founding Fathers for slavery as part of their ceaseless ideological struggle. Why would they stop retroactively applying their standards to the past? This show trial is virtue signalling at its worst. Putting a 95 year old man in a cage...
[13:45:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Disquiet - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:40] <exec> 08└─> Let us not forget that Israel's stance is that the statute of limitations has expired for war crimes committed in 1945 and earlier. The state of Israel is not the arbitrator of morality. Far from it in fact.
[13:45:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Disquiet - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:42] <exec> 08└─provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him
[13:45:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Fairly abhorent - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 4040 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:45:45] <exec> 08└─Among the weak willed, plus or minus some, enough hate turns you into what you hate. People who don't keep an eye on that get pretty F-ed up. The folks attacking senior citizens are now nazis themselves, which is the greater tragedy in that people complaining about X million nazis now have 2X or 3X...
[13:46:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Get rid of that platinum-iridium cylinder! - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 1285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:46:52] <exec> 08└─The kilogram is actually still defined in terms of a physical artefact, that old platinum-iridium cylinder that has been in use since 1889, and its mass is known to drift over time. The other SI basic units like metre and second, on the other hand, are all defined in terms of fundamental physical pr...
[13:47:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Politician speak - 06Alzheimer's Disease Proteins Linked to Vision Loss Among Older People - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:47:04] <exec> 08└─"We know that AMD is caused by a combination of genetic, environmental and lifestyle risk factors"
[13:48:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Covering the reaction and not the news - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 1586 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:48:53] <exec> 08└─>will complicate SOME extensions no, it will outright break extensions that require specific access that only XUL provides, addons like downthemall are going to die, the main developer of it commented on that addons announcement btw, and even wrote a blog post explaining it in good detail here http:...
[13:49:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03rondon [5167] (Score:2) 02Re:Figures - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 546 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:49:24] <exec> 08└─It was a joke, and it was kind of funny (not really funny, but I still cracked a bit of a grin). I agree with TMB's political positions approximately 20% of the time, and I think that some of his positions are really, really wrongheaded - that doesn't mean that he can't crack jokes and be funny on o...
[13:51:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 1071 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:51:13] <exec> 08└─Are you that afraid that the American economy is so weak that it's in danger of collapse like the Soviet Union in 1990? Are you really of the opinion that treating our own people well is going to weaken our country relative to others that flog theirs hard in sweatshops? The Soviets collapsed in 1990...
[13:52:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03gidds [589] (Score:2) 02Inappropriate name - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump. - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:52:39] <exec> 08└─Is it me, or does a clique of unaccountable, rich entrepreneurs entirely fail to square with most reasonable definitions of either of the words 'brains' or 'trust'?!
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[14:45:17] <exec> 08└─Turns out walled gardens are way more profitable, and they've got their own in iOS. Why let people have truly general purpose computers - which they don't fully control, even though newer versions of OSX seem to have joined the telemetry party - when you could instead guide the market away from them...
[14:45:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Hardware slowdown - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 2935 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:45:19] <exec> 08└─Yeah I admit I read this when it came out two days ago so I had time to ruminate on the mistakes of the journalist. Its actually not that awful of an article other than two HUGE mistakes. The first is hardware is slowing down because the upgrade treadmill died years ago. The only hope they have is t...
[14:45:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcross [4009] (Score:2) 02Antitrust much? - 06Microsoft Update Servers Left All Azure RHEL Instances Hackable - 490 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:45:27] <exec> 08└─Man, it's almost as if they learned nothing from being busted several times for antitrust activity. So we found out last week that they're using their platform to advertise Edge, which is different from IE bundling how? And now they're arguably using their cloud offering (which to be fair probably d...
[14:45:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Antitrust much? - 06Microsoft Update Servers Left All Azure RHEL Instances Hackable - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:29] <exec> 08└─Their mismanagement. R HEL.
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[14:45:31] <exec> 08└─I don't see how this has anything to do with anti-trust; they made a dumb mistake with the default configuration of their RHEL instance, that's all. I'm actually at a loss to figure out how they managed it since I can't recall ever having to manually enable GPG checks on a RHEL install as they seem...
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[14:45:44] <exec> 08└─No, you'd have to read something more than the opening paragraph. While I'm not quite finished yet, the paper explained why ethically the experiment cannot be exactly replicated anymore, why there are variations, and exactly why the 150 volt cutoff was used, and in fact was arguing in part why that...
[14:45:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Huh? - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:47] <exec> 08└─First of all, it was Nuremberg that set the initial precedent that 'just following orders' wasn't a valid defence.
[14:45:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nazi trials in Israel - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:51] <exec> 08└─I never trust the judgement of a court that is ok with prosecuting people it has kidnapped in order to put them on trial.
[14:45:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nazi trials in Israel - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:53] <exec> 08└─At least their last resort is persistent begging. Just think how horrible it would be if they wrote a strongly worded letter!
[14:45:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Nature vs. nurture - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:59] <exec> 08└─"The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy."
[14:46:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Nature vs. nurture - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:01] <exec> 08└─I'm familiar with that book. Nothing in it AFAIK is technically wrong. However it can be criticized as a classic example of 1970s propaganda vs 2010s propaganda. So decades ago if you want to convince extremely high functioning white people you write a, no kidding, FIVE HUNDRED page book full of aca...
[14:46:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Disquiet - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:10] <exec> 08└─In fact and theory, yes. Pragmatically in propaganda and control of the media, government, in this situation, the judicial system, oh yes they are. That's kinda the root cause of the problem.
[14:46:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03tfried [5534] (Score:2) 02Re:Disquiet - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 759 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:14] <exec> 08└─I do not know the details of this case, either, but, yes, the ruling court did ponder the question whether Groening had any choice, and they concluded that yes, he did have a real choice. Not for open rebellion, I take it, but e.g. applying for relocation or voicing simple "dissatisfaction" with the...
[14:46:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score:1) 02Re:Disquiet - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 580 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:16] <exec> 08└─Just as a point of information, according to the Wikipedia article on Oskar Groening (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oskar_Gr%C3%B6ning ), he applied for transfer away from Auschwitz, and was refused. Gröning claims he went to his boss and told him that he could not work at Auschwitz any more, stat...
[14:46:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02That's Rich - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:19] <exec> 08└─> Among the weak willed, plus or minus some, enough hate turns you into what you hate. Written without a hint of irony.
[14:46:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:That's Rich - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:21] <exec> 08└─Judge the post, not the poster.
[14:46:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:That's Rich - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 542 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:23] <exec> 08└─The funniest part of the whole exchange is AC #1 doesn't realize that unless he's really, really careful in his hatred of the right, he's going to end up red pilled and hanging out on /pol/, merely a matter of when, not if. The winds of history will not change direction merely by anonymously pissing...
[14:46:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02My Lai massacre - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:46:25] <exec> 08└─http://www.pierretristam.com/Bobst/library/wf-200.htm [pierretristam.com] http://www.nbcnews.com [nbcnews.com]
[14:46:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Good precedent. - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 616 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:46:28] <exec> 08└─Nazi nonsense aside, this is a step in the right direction to combat the surveillance state. In the past, whenever one of those mass-surveillance programs got leaked, everyone except maybe some middle-weight scapegoats got away with it. Now, with any luck, we'll start seeing whistle-blowers from the...
[14:46:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02green choice - 06A Satellite Image Could Change the Way We Build Cities - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:46:37] <exec> 08└─What's better, a roof covered with vegetation or solar panels?
[14:47:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Krebbs has good coverage, as usual - 06Alleged San Francisco Muni ‘Hacker’ Demanded $73,000 Ransom - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:47:13] <exec> 08└─https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/11/san-francisco-rail-system-hacker-hacked [krebsonsecurity.com]
[14:47:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:While the world has moved on - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:38] <exec> 08└─Maybe (USA vs Metric units). Using differing units to keep outsiders out was perfected by Russia when they made their train tracks a different width than the standard in Europe -- you have to stop at the border and either change trains, or stop your train and shift all the wheels on their axles.
[14:47:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Get rid of that platinum-iridium cylinder! - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:40] <exec> 08└─Um . . . did you even read the summary? Your ranting is the whole point of the article.
[14:50:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03AssCork [6255] (Score:1) 02Re:Figures - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:50:10] <exec> 08└─First, it's not a joke. Or funny.
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[15:45:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Alternate explanation - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 1698 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:11] <exec> 08└─I don't think that's quite it. There are a few issues: First, a lot of stuff has moved onto the web. I was speaking to someone a few days ago who was complaining about IT support upgrading her computer to Windows 10. She hates the UI and only ever uses the machine for email, web browsing, and runnin...
[15:45:12] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02Hardware slowdown - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 2935 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:12] <exec> 08└─Yeah I admit I read this when it came out two days ago so I had time to ruminate on the mistakes of the journalist. Its actually not that awful of an article other than two HUGE mistakes. The first is hardware is slowing down because the upgrade treadmill died years ago. The only hope they have is t...
[15:45:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Hardware slowdown - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 626 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:15] <exec> 08└─Agreed on all counts. The vast majority of people would have enough power in a Raspberry Pi for everything they need a computer for, ever, full stop. We're there or past there for phones/tablets as well; the 2nd gen iPad Mini and current flagship phones basically have no reason to be replaced except...
[15:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:Hardware slowdown - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 443 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:17] <exec> 08└─At least the journalist isn't claiming the desktop market is dying. Gamers will still be gaming on desktops in 2026. The enthusiast group does drive a lot of technology. Better graphics cards, better cooling, lower latency, and so on. A lot of corporate offices have transitioned to laptops which is...
[15:45:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Excuse my ignorance but... - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:19] <exec> 08└─Isn't Apple and Mac the same thing?
[15:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02bring back 17-inch screen - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 542 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:21] <exec> 08└─Funny how Apple's decline started when they got rid of the 17-inch screen and made the MacBookPro a consumer laptop rather than a professional one. They could jump-start their sales by bringing back the 17-inch screen. I could learn to live with the new thunderbolt connector, and live without mag-sa...
[15:45:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03redbear762 [5576] (Score:1) 02"PC's are in decline" - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:23] <exec> 08└─I've be reading this kind of thing for the last 20 years and you'd figure by now that there wouldn't be any left anywhere. I mean, you can do all your stuff on your phone or pad, right? >. I hear the same crap in gaming and it's just not true; console peasants may want it to be true but it never wil...
[15:45:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Antitrust much? - 06Microsoft Update Servers Left All Azure RHEL Instances Hackable - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:34] <exec> 08└─This has everything to do with anti trust if it was not a dumb mistake but more likely a deliberate plan. Remember this IS Microsoft we're talking about. Destroying competitors is in their DNA. It's deep. They cannot escape it.
[15:45:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Antitrust much? - 06Microsoft Update Servers Left All Azure RHEL Instances Hackable - 477 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:35] <exec> 08└─Unlikely. This is Azure, which employs a lot of Linux (and FreeBSD) developers. Most likely, they're rolling their own packages with tweaks for Azure and set their default image to fetch from there instead. They didn't bother adding a new signing key because (a) it's hard to do key management secure...
[15:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Antitrust much? - 06Microsoft Update Servers Left All Azure RHEL Instances Hackable - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:37] <exec> 08└─I don't see how this has anything to do with anti-trust; they made a dumb mistake
[15:45:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Antitrust much? - 06Microsoft Update Servers Left All Azure RHEL Instances Hackable - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:39] <exec> 08└─Actually even though this is labeled MS Azure, it's RedHat that manages the infrastructure for them. This is 100% RedHat's fault. They're liable for the day to day running of these things.
[15:45:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Paid less than bug bounty - 06Microsoft Update Servers Left All Azure RHEL Instances Hackable - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:42] <exec> 08└─Why do you fuck the people who help you?
[15:46:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Nature vs. nurture - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:46:07] <exec> 08└─The 11th Commandment doth say, after all, "Thou Shalt Not Criticize Israel."
[15:46:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Disquiet - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:46:17] <exec> 08└─Israel is the single largest body qualified to weigh in on holocaust prosecutions as it represents most of the victims. One would expect them to want more prosecution than is reasonable even. If you want to prosecute the holocaust more than Israel, you've really gone off the rails.
[15:46:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Good precedent. - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:46:27] <exec> 08└─Quite the opposite, really. Any potential whistleblowers now have to worry more about being prosecuted themselves. This is a dangerous precedent for justice when everybody with first-hand knowledge of the crime can be committed for it. This will chill whistleblowing. Those with the knowledge to spea...
[15:46:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:Good precedent. - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:46:29] <exec> 08└─That's not whistle-blowing. Whistle-blowing is to have the bureaucrats say No as soon as the papers land at their feet and immediately blow the whistle and notify the public what's going on. What you're talking about is witness immunity. That's part of the prosecutor's office and can still be grante...
[15:46:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:2) 02Re:Good precedent. - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 679 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:46:31] <exec> 08└─The bureaucrats are the ones in charge of the wrongdoings. It's the lower level people, the clerks, secretaries, and increasingly the programmers and mathematicians, who are likely to blow the whistle. And witness immunity is a tricky thing. If it isn't offered before the prosecutor even knows what...
[15:46:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good precedent. - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:46:33] <exec> 08└─I think you're reaching when you try to connect this judicial decision with surveillance. TFA is about liability for following orders to kill civilians or do them grievous physical harm.
[15:46:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02The winners write the rules... - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 949 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:35] <exec> 08└─War is evil, and even well-meaning people are inevitably caught up in doing unthinkable things to other human beings. With the Marshall Plan, the US rose above this at the time: Re-building Europe, including West Germany, in hopes of producing a more prosperous future. And it worked! Prosecuting "wa...
[15:46:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Politics or justice? - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 806 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:37] <exec> 08└─Probably a bit of both. Justice: He was a small fish in a big pond of exceptionally terrible things and was forced to pay a price. Politics: At 95, it's nearly the last chance to catch a fish. He got to live a full life and then was forced to be a political pawn. This seems unlikely to deter other b...
[15:47:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aristarchus [2645] 02Re:infinite stupidity - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 1373 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:36] <exec> 08└─Infinite what? Yeah, what? I can't hear you since it is infinite! OK, two serious points. Point One: in infinity, units do not matter, since infinity mean in-finis, no end, so it does not really matter what unit you are using, since all units are infinite, they have ends, that is what makes them a...
[15:47:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:infinite stupidity - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 978 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:39] <exec> 08└─It gets way worse than that, you don't need real infinities to get infinity involved. Just a single signed integer can be an infinite set. Integer s = { <a, b> : a, b \in N, a - b == s } (that's not the definition, so it's not circular, it's the exposition). For instance, the unit 1, as a signed int...
[15:47:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:infinite stupidity - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:41] <exec> 08└─Yes, not all all infinities are the same. While you might think that there is no difference between the number of integers and the number of real numbers, it can be proved that it is impossible to construct a function that will map all of the integers to all of the reals. You’ll “run” out of i...
[15:47:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:infinite stupidity - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:45] <exec> 08└─> It's radians. Since, nobody actually knows what they're for, it's the obvious choice for stupidity. Only to a certain degree.
[15:47:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:the deep reality is not at all - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:52] <exec> 08└─The other constants should be scaleable such that we end up with Avagadro's number at 1, that being the fundamental quantity by which I want to count things.
[15:47:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:While the world has moved on - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:57] <exec> 08└─Not to mention their alphabet so only native propaganda would sink in! And now Russia is an isolated economic midget, the size of Spain...
[15:48:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Get rid of that platinum-iridium cylinder! - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:48:01] <exec> 08└─I see the GP's point was acknowledged, but it wasn't addressed how mass will be elegantly defined in terms of fundamental units of nature, e.g. 4.0002 x 10e18 units of this or that.
[15:50:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Covering the reaction and not the news - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:50:02] <exec> 08└─I imagine that when they finally put the bullet in the head of the classic extension system, the user base will immediately halve, and the managers at Mozilla will still manage to be surprised.
[15:51:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 1410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:51:57] <exec> 08└─I'm sorry, what did you expect to "change?" It sound like the change you expect is a change in human nature - that all people everywhere will suddenly become altruistic and charitable. Or that people upon receiving free handouts will put it into its proper perspective and then want to do things for...
[15:52:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:The obvious question - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:52:03] <exec> 08└─Why shouldn't my employer pay me $1 and just tell me to collect food stamps and welfare.
[15:52:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:The obvious question - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:52:11] <exec> 08└─First, it's not actually a problem. No one has actually pointed to a negative consequence of the current situation. Further, we want poor people employed. Walmart does that. Even if we suppose these social programs act as a subsidy for Walmart, we still have that the subsidy encourages Walmart to...
[15:52:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:52:25] <exec> 08└─When you start babbling about "protection" without specifying what sort of protection, then you get all sorts of perverse outcomes. It's like the stories of genies, be careful what you wish for.
[15:52:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:52:31] <exec> 08└─Are you that afraid that the American economy is so weak that it's in danger of collapse like the Soviet Union in 1990?
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[16:45:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Charlie Wilson's War - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:11] <exec> 08└─We already knew this. They made a damn movie about it. Starring Tom Freakin Hanks amd Julia Roberts. Charlie Wilson's War [wikipedia.org] Wikileaks used to tell us things that were (a) secret and (b) meaningful. Miss those days...
[16:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Charlie Wilson's War - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:12] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I was about to say mostly the same thing here. How is this news? The chain of events from Afghanistan to ISIS is all pretty well understood at this point, even by regular laypeople who keep up decently with world events. It probably even has something to do with why Trump was elected: Hillary...
[16:45:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03n1 [993] (Score:2) 02Re:Charlie Wilson's War - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 1212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:14] <exec> 08└─While most Trump supporters had their attention turned to Clinton’s brash hawkishness, they failed to notice that some of the craziest of the neoconservative Bush-era war hawks in Washington had split off from the pro-Clinton neocon consensus and favored Trump. Some examples of this include Michae...
[16:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Charlie Wilson's War - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:17] <exec> 08└─Hey, but now they can tell us completely misconstrued statements about specific, actually innocuous documents that are clearly intended to favor a single political candidate in an election. That's almost as good!
[16:45:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03n1 [993] (Score:2) 02Re:Charlie Wilson's War - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 595 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:19] <exec> 08└─Sibel Edmonds is our final guest as we dissect this shambolic re-telling of the Soviet-Afghan War. Much of this conversation is devoted to what the film leaves out, such as Charlie Wilson being a CIA asset, the origins of Operation Cyclone being older and much more important than one drunk congressm...
[16:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Informative) 02Assange is a boring tool of Putin - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:21] <exec> 08└─Gee, Assange. Russia invaded Afghanistan in 1979, d'ya think that just maybe that possibly had something to do with inciting the Mujahadeen to commit acts of Jihad against "infidels"? It's almost like you're conveniently forgetting this because you like the Russian government. Ohhh yes... they're th...
[16:45:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02You're the tool here - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:23] <exec> 08└─Had some European country had given Assange refuge he'd certainly be there. It's not like he didn't try that first- But there was nowhere else to go. Sure, Putin and many others rejoice when somebody gives the US a black eye but that hardly means that the news are less newsworthy... Of course Russia...
[16:45:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:Assange is a boring tool of Putin - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:25] <exec> 08└─Are you confusing Jullian Assange with Edward Snowden? Last I heard, Jullian Assange was holed up in the Ecuadorian Embassy.
[16:45:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Assange is a boring tool of Putin - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 977 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:27] <exec> 08└─I don't see this as being political in that way. Besides, even front line assembly made music in the 80s about stuff like this. I believe one track was called "rebels in afganistan". I personally had no idea what it was about until I read up on it. That is when I connected the dots as to where a lot...
[16:45:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Excuse my ignorance but... - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:40] <exec> 08└─Isn't Apple and Mac the same thing?
[16:45:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:bring back 17-inch screen - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:43] <exec> 08└─Smaller laptops have the advantage that they can easily be used on the go in a vehicle or coffee shop while affording long battery life. At home or work, a large monitor with keyboard and mouse turns a small laptop into a workstation. This is what most people I know with MacBooks do, even profession...
[16:45:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Re:bring back 17-inch screen - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:45] <exec> 08└─Funny how Apple's decline started when they got rid of the 17-inch screen and made the MacBookPro a consumer laptop rather than a professional one.
[16:45:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Re:"PC's are in decline" - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:48] <exec> 08└─I've be reading this kind of thing for the last 20 years and you'd figure by now that there wouldn't be any left anywhere.
[16:45:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Vicious circle... - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:50] <exec> 08└─Apple’s recognition that the PC market is declining also explains why the company has been slow in updating its laptops and desktops.
[16:45:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02What would Sun Tzu do? - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:52] <exec> 08└─In a war, the top general puts more and better troops on the most important battle.
[16:46:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:Really touchy subject - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 694 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:46:36] <exec> 08└─thats not how it works in the US military. in the US military, soldiers are responsible for their own actions, not their leaders'. in combat, we have "Rules of Engagement" that say when we are legally allowed to fire and kill; stay within the ROE (stuff like self defense is always covered, from ther...
[16:46:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:Really touchy subject - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 1065 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:46:38] <exec> 08└─Which is why we had the situation at Abu Ghraib never being properly cleared up. The commanders that were supposed to make sure that things like that didn't happen were never properly held to account. Culpability for it extended much higher up the chain of command than was ultimately prosecuted. And...
[16:47:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:It is bad form... - 06Alleged San Francisco Muni ‘Hacker’ Demanded $73,000 Ransom - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:47:32] <exec> 08└─That's what an isolated VM is for. You would think (hope) that an IT person would know better. Since they know what caused it, it's probably safe to assume they know who caused it. I'd hate to be that person right now.
[16:47:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Terry Childs story - 06Alleged San Francisco Muni ‘Hacker’ Demanded $73,000 Ransom - 322 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:47:43] <exec> 08└─Indeed, it practically played out along ideaological lines (not party lines). Those that build protect what they built Those hired to maintain do what they are told Usually, I trust the builder more than the maintainer when it comes to operational guidance, but sometimes people can become too attach...
[16:48:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:infinite stupidity - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:48:07] <exec> 08└─Hi, Aristarchus, still suffering from that brain thing I see. I genuinely pity anybody as jealous as you are, to waste so much time being petty rather than actually educating yourself.
[16:48:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Proposal for redefined SI mass unit - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:48:22] <exec> 08└─1 kg will be redefined as the mass contained in exactly 2.661 of these bobbleheads. [ebay.com] In the admittedly small chance that the Nobel committee becomes interested, I came up with this idea without collaborating with others.
[16:49:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03dingus [5224] (Score:2) 02Re:Not ready for prime time - 06Quantum Physics Offers New Way to Factor Numbers - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:49:06] <exec> 08└─This is accurate, and in fact even on wikipedia it says that the highest number factored with shor's algorithm is currently 21. Still, the possibility of quantum computers breaking RSA and ECC is legitimate, and anyone hoping to keep their asymmetric communications secure for more than 15 years shou...
[16:50:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Still no working MSI - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:50:16] <exec> 08└─One more proof that M$ is a toy operating system... No package management? You gotta be kidding me!
[16:50:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Still no working MSI - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 969 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:50:18] <exec> 08└─Whoever modded that question "Troll" is a fucking idiot. Not everyone uses Windows as their primary OS, and even among those that do it's possible to never encounter one since most people seem to distribute their installers as executables. MSI has been around forever and failed to displace providing...
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[17:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Ah crap - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:10] <exec> 08└─Well this is going to send the creationists into a frenzy. One of their arguments is that c is not constant and never has been, and they use this to explain away evidence of the age of the universe and the earth in particular. Now I don't think this is the same as what the paper is suggesting, but t...
[17:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Created as it and immutable ... - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:12] <exec> 08└─From where I stand, all the mountains look eternal and all the lakes have water. I went to see other mountains, they seemed eternal too. I went to see other lakes, they seemed to have water. All I know is that my world includes eternal mountains and watery lakes. That's what I measure. That's what m...
[17:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Charlie Wilson's War - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 623 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:23] <exec> 08└─That said, it has been fairly convincingly argued that it was the handling of the _peace_ in Iraq that lead to ISIS, not the war itself. The disbanding of the existing Iraqi army, large numbers of well trained soldiers suddenly out of a job, and the rise of Haji Bakr who took advantage of it, and fa...
[17:45:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Charlie Wilson's War - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:24] <exec> 08└─Sure, it was a long sequence of events that got us to where we are today with culpability at each step. But, It isn't clear if there was only one path to getting here, or this is just the particular path we took.
[17:45:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Charlie Wilson's War - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 975 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:27] <exec> 08└─The "peace" in Iraq? Never happened. The war didn't end when we said it ended - but I think everyone knows that. We either stayed to damned long, or not nearly long enough. The point in time at which we declared the war to be over was meaningless, in any context aside from a US political context. I'...
[17:45:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Charlie Wilson's War - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:31] <exec> 08└─Duh! I didn't say it was a documentary. The point is that the story is so well known that they made it into a Tom Hanks movie.
[17:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03n1 [993] (Score:2) 02Re:Charlie Wilson's War - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 488 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:33] <exec> 08└─The 'story' in very broad strokes with CIA approval/advisers to make sure the right message got across to the audience. CIA guy Milton "He gave me the Stinger missiles and a billion dollars!" Bearden was an adviser on the movie and actually trained the afghan mujahadeen in the 1980's, but wasn't fea...
[17:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Charlie Wilson's War - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:35] <exec> 08└─the commenter didn't say you did! adding morwe info to your post doesn't mean it was even a criticism of your post. get a grip.
[17:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Charlie Wilson's War - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 698 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:37] <exec> 08└─it's the american mentality to "plant the flag" and then leave? it is also show in the "documentary" that after the russians returned home that not much money was invested to rebuild Afghanistan. rebuilding might have put a stop to further future ... errr ... "bush fires"? this fact, more then any,...
[17:45:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] 02Re:Assange is a boring tool of Putin - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 124 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:41] <exec> 08└─Are you confusing Jullian Assange with Edward Snowden? Last I heard, Jullian Assange was holed up in the Ecuadorian Embassy.
[17:45:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Assange is a boring tool of Putin - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:44] <exec> 08└─I don't see this as being political in that way. Yeah, too bad this is the first time in about 2 years.
[17:45:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03quintessence [6227] (Score:2) 02Re:Assange is a boring tool of Putin - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 818 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:47] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but the clusterfuck that is the Middle East is a bit of a political hot potato at the moment, with everyone kicking the ball back down the for the circumstances they were handed. I imagine John Adams will be implicated at some point for the Treaty of Triploi. Of course if the Middle East were...
[17:45:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Assange is a boring tool of Putin - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:49] <exec> 08└─It's almost like you're conveniently forgetting this because you like the Russian government. Ohhh yes... they're the ones who have been protecting your butt from imprisonment, and plying you with hacked documents so you can stay in the news.
[17:45:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02Unlike Android, iOS is not self-hosting - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:46:00] <exec> 08└─You can't make apps for an iPad on an iPad. You need a Mac. You can, however, make apps for an Android tablet on an Android tablet [android-ide.com].
[17:46:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Unlike Android, iOS is not self-hosting - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:46:02] <exec> 08└─It's not so much that it's not "self-hosting", it's that iOS is intentionally crippled in a variety of ways.
[17:46:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02Re:Hardware slowdown - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:46:06] <exec> 08└─The vast majority of people would have enough power in a Raspberry Pi for everything they need a computer for, ever, full stop.
[17:46:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03zafiro17 [234] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Hardware slowdown - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 1652 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:46:09] <exec> 08└─Have a closer look at the byline. This isn't a random journalist, it's Jean Louis Gassee, former Apple executive and the guy who started BeOS in about 2001 or so. He's not just a pundit. That said, he might as well be just a pundit, since this article offers no insight whatsoever into the ecosystem,...
[17:46:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Hardware slowdown - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:46:12] <exec> 08└─Regarding the "touchbar", all I can see is them mapping out the ability to touch-type. It's a ridiculous idea for a "professional" machine.
[17:46:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02Re:Excuse my ignorance but... - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:46:16] <exec> 08└─But Ford the company and Ford the brand have the same name, though Ford also makes Lincoln brand cars.
[17:46:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:2) 02Re:bring back 17-inch screen - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 535 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:46:21] <exec> 08└─While I agree with you, Apple made a business decision to stop producing 17" screens for what I assume are solid business reasons. The consumer market, while in (sort of) decline, is still much larger than the professional and enthusiast markets (for Apple at least). Especially when you add the educ...
[17:46:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02Re:"PC's are in decline" - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:46:25] <exec> 08└─I've be reading this kind of thing for the last 20 years and you'd figure by now that there wouldn't be any left anywhere. I mean, you can do all your stuff on your phone or pad, right?
[17:46:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:Antitrust much? - 06Microsoft Update Servers Left All Azure RHEL Instances Hackable - 975 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:46:39] <exec> 08└─Yes, *IF* it was deliberate, but that's one hell of a stretch if you can manage to set aside the anti-MS sentiment when you think it though. The default RHEL install does not have this problem, so any failure here points straight back at those responsible for configuring and managing the Azure insta...
[17:47:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jerry Smith [379] (Score:2) 02Re:somethings not right - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:13] <exec> 08└─Swift justice, comparable to shooting people in the back like US police officers sometimes do? Rather not, no.
[17:47:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Really touchy subject - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:17] <exec> 08└─Apply this to the police at Standing Rock.
[17:47:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Medical Research - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 605 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:20] <exec> 08└─The bleeding edge of biomedical research is messy (complex systems that have many unknown variables) and much of it is done by people in training (graduate students and post-doctoral researchers), so it is difficult to tell the difference between "honest" mistakes/misinterpretations and the dishones...
[17:47:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Politics or justice? - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:41] <exec> 08└─It's the mentality of a Middle Eastern culture: hate the other tribe forever, never let it go.
[17:47:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:green choice - 06A Satellite Image Could Change the Way We Build Cities - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:50] <exec> 08└─Define "better." Otherwise the question is just a case of apples and oranges.
[17:50:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03darnkitten [1912] (Score:2) 02Re:''Pale Moon'' - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:50:35] <exec> 08└─I'm wondering if there will be a serious migration of extension devs to Pale Moon (like what happened when OpenOffice was given to Apache and LibreOffice forked that codebase).
[17:53:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:53:08] <exec> 08└─And I once met this guy who decided that millions of people working more than 40 hours a week don't deserve a living wage because of two asshole, non-working, adults and a 10 year old.
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[18:45:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Ah crap - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 502 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:15] <exec> 08└─What sent both creationists and atheists into a frenzy was when the "big bang theory" came around. Creationists were in a snit because they thought the theory was "in the beginning there was nothing, then it exploded"; but that's not what the theory says. The theory actually parallels Genesis, which...
[18:45:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ah crap - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:17] <exec> 08└─because there was previously no evidence that the universe wasn't here forever.
[18:45:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Ah crap - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 501 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:20] <exec> 08└─thats the exact problem with trying to figure out "before the big bang" from inside the universe. there's no such thing as "before". its like mario trying to consider what was happening before the game was turned on, you have to get outside of the universe before there can be a concept of "before",...
[18:45:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Ah crap - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 725 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:22] <exec> 08└─You are assuming that everyone understands that time is part of the fabric of the universe, and that the universe is not "within" time. Prior to special relativity, there were common basic "self evident" assumptions such as: * time is the same for all observers, everywhere * a stick has a fixed leng...
[18:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:Ah crap - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:24] <exec> 08└─part of those "self evident" assumptions come from the fact that it was assumed that other universes outside the mortal realm - duat, hades, sheol, heaven, etc - existed and were just as real as this one. if you're working with the assumption that there are other "layers" (universes) outside from th...
[18:45:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Created as it and immutable ... - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:27] <exec> 08└─Lakes definitely can dry up: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[18:45:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Created as it and immutable ... - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:29] <exec> 08└─He didn't say the lakes were eternal. Only the mountains.
[18:45:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:Created as it and immutable ... - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:31] <exec> 08└─I once watched a lake drain away in a few hours due to a sink hole. Should I now expect that any lake would not do the same at any moment? In 1943 the spot where mount Parícutin sits was a corn field. A decade later it was a 424 meter high volcano. Should everyone who witnessed that assume all mou...
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[18:45:34] <exec> 08└─From where I stand, all the mountains look eternal and all the lakes have water.
[18:45:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02measuring strechy things with stretchy rulers - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:36] <exec> 08└─Relativity teaches us that c is constant, whereas the distances shrink to keep the reality consistent. How are we going to measure c then, if c is the measure of all our meters and clocks?
[18:45:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:measuring strechy things with stretchy rulers - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:38] <exec> 08└─We have already measured c. It would seem that if this were true, a later measurement of c would result in a lower value. Or do I misunderstand?
[18:45:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Outline - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 573 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:40] <exec> 08└─I think the basic scheme is that they can predict certain aspects of noise in the Cosmic Microwave Background, or the distribution of very distant galaxies. They compare the number and brightness of big blobs of noise with small blobs of noise. For people who know signal processing, they do a Fourie...
[18:45:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Charlie Wilson's War - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 947 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:54] <exec> 08└─> A punitive campaign would have been the correct tool for the job. Go in, destroy the army, get Saddam, and get the hell out. > (...) > And, in both cases, the countries would have been left in better shape (...). We DID dismantle the army in Iraq, thus feeding manpower to what would become ISIS. E...
[18:45:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Charlie Wilson's War - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 525 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:55] <exec> 08└─The government and the army would have been left in place. We defeat the army, snatch the leader, walk away. That is a "punitive expedition". A defeated army still remains an army, unlike what we did to it. The concept isn't that hard to understand. https://en.wikipedia.org
[18:45:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Charlie Wilson's War - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:58] <exec> 08└─I quoted your use of the word "destroy". Defeat is not the same as destroy. You did not address what would happen to an oil-rich country with influential neighbors with a weakened military and without Saddam, neither did you address why you feel that any US government had any reason to "punish" Iraq...
[18:46:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Charlie Wilson's War - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:01] <exec> 08└─Julian wouldn't do that to us! Not OUR Julian! He ALWAYS selflessly goes after the TRUTH!
[18:46:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I don't miss it at all - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 900 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:08] <exec> 08└─Wikileaks used to tell us things that were (a) secret and (b) meaningful. Miss those days... I don't. Who died and made Assange God? The value of the leaks (even early on, when they embarrassed an administration I despised almost as much as I despite the incoming one) was questionable, and a lot of...
[18:46:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I don't miss it at all - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:10] <exec> 08└─Silicon Valley is where the high tech firms are. Silicone Valley is the L.A. area. That's where all the fake boobs are (both literally and figuratively).
[18:46:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02CIA didn't create ISIS - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:46:19] <exec> 08└─If the CIA created ISIS, then Hitler created the EU. Because without Hitler, there would not have been World War II, therefore there would not have been the ECSC [wikipedia.org] and thus no EU. Same sort of logic.
[18:46:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:CIA didn't create ISIS - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:21] <exec> 08└─By golly, you're right. But they're right too! - You're both right-man
[18:46:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:CIA didn't create ISIS - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:23] <exec> 08└─I prefer this rendition. [youtube.com] Also, fun fact: Hitler was nominated for the 1939 Nobel peace prize. Stalin for the 45 & 48.
[18:46:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:CIA didn't create ISIS - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:26] <exec> 08└─In some sense, you could say . . . Microsoft created Open Source. Without the monopolist abuses that motivated its rise, there wouldn't be the massive open source ecosystem we enjoy today.
[18:46:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2, Disagree) 02Re:Unlike Android, iOS is not self-hosting - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 1168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:38] <exec> 08└─The crippling is down to a difference in philosophies. Google regards an Android device as a computer, Apple regards an iOS device as a thing that you have to complement your computer. Work bought me an Android tablet, which I rarely used, and an iPad, which I use a lot. The problem with the Android...
[18:46:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Unlike Android, iOS is not self-hosting - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 603 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:39] <exec> 08└─From what I've seen, there are exceedingly few things that iOS does better than Android, and rafts of things that Android does that you're not "allowed" to do in iOS. Things like running alternative browsers, installing from alternate software sources, etc. For usability it seems to be a preference,...
[18:46:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Hardware slowdown - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:47] <exec> 08└─The main two reasons sales of traditional computers are falling is that first, as someone above said, there's no longer any need to upgrade; a ten year old computer will do anything most folks need a computer for (except gamers). But the primary reason is that ten years ago there were no tablet comp...
[18:46:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:"PC's are in decline" - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 1029 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:58] <exec> 08└─How long ago did you last buy a new PC? How long before that did you buy its predecessor? How about the one before that? The computer I got in 2001 replaced one that I'd bought in 1998 and had so many upgrades by 2003 that it was effectively a new machine. The one I got in 2003 lasted until 2005 bef...
[18:47:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02TEH ARCHITECTS! - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 864 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:47:02] <exec> 08└─i think apple don't make anything. they have no factories. they however have good ideas and then let other people build it for them. one could say that they are master lego builders but they don't make the bricks themselves. once in a while they will push the brick manufacturers to make something sm...
[18:47:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Paid less than bug bounty - 06Microsoft Update Servers Left All Azure RHEL Instances Hackable - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:18] <exec> 08└─that's how the devil/evil works. i'm surprised you didn't know that.
[18:47:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Paid less than bug bounty - 06Microsoft Update Servers Left All Azure RHEL Instances Hackable - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:20] <exec> 08└─Did they offer 10X the amount to keep quiet?
[18:48:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03nukkel [168] (Score:2) 02Re:Politics or justice? - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:48:18] <exec> 08└─Them Jews sure know how to hold a grudge.
[18:49:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:infinite stupidity - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:49:25] <exec> 08└─Not only is there more than one infinity, there are even infinitely many infinities. Indeed, there are more infinities than there are real numbers!
[18:49:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02World's Roundest Object (Sphere of Silicon-28) - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:49:44] <exec> 08└─World's Roundest Object (Sphere of Silicon-28) https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[18:49:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:relevant news for SN readers - 06Alzheimer's Disease Proteins Linked to Vision Loss Among Older People - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:49:54] <exec> 08└─You'll get here soon enough, kid... if you're lucky and careful.
[18:49:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Great - 06Alzheimer's Disease Proteins Linked to Vision Loss Among Older People - 807 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:49:58] <exec> 08└─That's completely normal; everybody loses their ability to focus in their forties. The reason is that your focusing lens focuses by being stretched, making it flatter, but in middle age the lens becomes hard. The only people my age who can focus are ones like me with a CrystaLens implant. TFS is abo...
[18:50:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Early Diagnosis - 06Alzheimer's Disease Proteins Linked to Vision Loss Among Older People - 500 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:50:01] <exec> 08└─The only three natural forms of vision loss are age-related farsightedness (presbyopia) which everybody gets, "floaters" which are also normal and most people get, and cataracts, which many people get. None of them have to do with the retina. Two are the lens, one is the vitreous. Arc welding can ca...
[18:50:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:wavelengths - 06Scientists Develop New Optical Circuit Components to Manipulate Light - 554 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:50:12] <exec> 08└─Yea, they got the function of a DPSS green laser reversed and partly wrong. You get 532nm green from 1064mn infrared via a KTP or LBO frequency doubler. The infrared comes from an Nd:YAG crystal pumped from a near infrared LED @808nm. nIR LED --> Nd:YAG --> KTP/LBO --> visible green laser light I've...
[18:51:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Covering the reaction and not the news - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 561 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:51:58] <exec> 08└─I certainly know when that time comes I'll be switching to chrome, I've always put it off because some addon alternatives dont exist in chrome such as self-destructing cookies, which is arguably one of the best "privacy" addons out there. but those addons that keep me using FF will be completely fuc...
[18:52:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't this... - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:52:52] <exec> 08└─The gp was talking about "waterfront property", so today's waterfront is what was important. (OTOH, the upper floors might well have a "waterfront view", but not a vary aesthetic one from *my* point of view.)
[18:54:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:54:27] <exec> 08└─IOW, in your mind everything is filtered through a "government is always bad" filter. Are you really saying we should have complete open season on all fish and game until preyed upon to extinction and no real property laws at all?
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[19:45:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Damn it, Jim! It's transparent aluminum! - 06Theoretical Model Could Shatter a Mystery of Glass - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:22] <exec> 08└─Needed Star Trek homour.
[19:45:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02God = Server Admin [Re:Ah crap] - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 616 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:35] <exec> 08└─Essentially "God" is the server admin if we are a simulation, and from our perspective he indeed would be omnipotent: he could delete any person, place, or thing at whim. He may even want us to sing praises to him every 7 days to pump his ego, and personally hate it when we yank off. But even if the...
[19:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:God = Server Admin [Re:Ah crap] - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:37] <exec> 08└─"These 'humans' are acting weird" "Have you tried turning it off and back on again?"
[19:45:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:God = Server Admin [Re:Ah crap] - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:39] <exec> 08└─Does 1+1=2 even if there's no one to think about it? If so, should not all possible postulations already already have their solutions? If so, then all possible universes exist in logic space.
[19:45:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Created as it and immutable ... - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 1226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:48] <exec> 08└─The mountains might be eternal but you look close and you're gonna WTF about ocean bottom seashells on the top of the mountain. Fish skeleton fossils. Ocean ooze turned into limestone. Gets even worse when you slap GPS survey grade equipment up there a couple years and the eternal mountain is moving...
[19:45:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Disagree) 02Gravity and Light... - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:53] <exec> 08└─So... If a black hole has so much gravity that light can't escape, then surely the speed of gravity's effects are faster than light. And... If the speed of light is constant, then prisms wouldn't work, and the doppler effect of light wouldn't exist. I'm no brainiac, but I've always thought the E=mc2...
[19:45:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:Gravity and Light... - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:55] <exec> 08└─That's not how any of that works. At all.
[19:45:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02emphasis on testable - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 501 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:57] <exec> 08└─The argument that the speed of light could have been faster in the past stirred my suspicions that this could be pseudoscience. That line of thinking is a staple of Creationists to support the notion that the universe and hence the Earth could be much younger than extrapolating from a constant speed...
[19:45:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03pkrasimirov [3358] (Score:2) 02Re:emphasis on testable - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 580 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:46:00] <exec> 08└─In the beginning one turn is 25 years, then it becomes 20 years, then 15, and at the end-game it is 4 turns per year. The years don't matter, only the number of turns. The first world wonder is build somewhere around turn 75 (on Marathon speed). Also if you don't have many people the science needed...
[19:46:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Determining constancy - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:46:02] <exec> 08└─How do you determine that a measure is constant? It seems like in order to demonstrate that a measure is constant, you'd need to compare it against a measure already known to be constant. Einstein, meet relativity.
[19:46:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Instant stability? Unlikely - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 1418 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:46:04] <exec> 08└─If c were different in the past, that implies its still changing a bit. Thus, over time we should see a slight variation. It doesn't make sense c would be significantly different in the past, and then just stop changing altogether and then remain extremely constant. Things in nature rarely work that...
[19:46:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Vacuum? - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:46:07] <exec> 08└─To start with, I'd suggest that the early universe was far from a vacuum, so the rules for light in a vacuum didn't apply then.
[19:46:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Charlie Wilson's War - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 523 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:46:24] <exec> 08└─Wrong choice of words, but the effect would have been the same. We defeated and destroyed Saddam's army in what - 3 days? Our tanks and armored vehicles raced to Baghdad, and by the time we got there, there was pretty little left of Saddam's mechainized army, and the infantry was ready to surrender....
[19:46:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Charlie Wilson's War - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 789 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:46:28] <exec> 08└─I honestly don't know what he's after, as an individual. Not a clue what his agenda is. And that's okay. Unknown bias is an okay thing to have in your discourse in moderate quantities. But I really can't stand anyone, who, for any reason, willfully misconstrues something harmless as implying a gigan...
[19:46:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Entropy [4228] (Score:2) 02Re:Charlie Wilson's War - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:46:37] <exec> 08└─While we know this, if you ask someone they probably didn't believe it.
[19:46:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Assange is a boring tool of Putin - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:46:45] <exec> 08└─I think it all goes back to Gutenberg and the printing press.
[19:46:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02It is STILL policy - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 822 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:46:52] <exec> 08└─There is huge pressure on anyone in Washington who tries to put the genie back in the bottle. You think we should stop funding these people that are committing genocide? That's Islamophobia. Your government career is over in an instant, the newspapers will call you a racist conspiracy theorist, you...
[19:47:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Hardware slowdown - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:47:10] <exec> 08└─The vast majority of people would have enough power in a Raspberry Pi for everything they need a computer for, ever
[19:47:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcross [4009] (Score:2) 02Re:Antitrust much? - 06Microsoft Update Servers Left All Azure RHEL Instances Hackable - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:47:42] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I think you're probably right and in this case it's easy enough to presume incompetence rather than malice. A string of incidents like this could land them in hot water though, I'm just pointing out that they could stand to be a bit more cautious.
[19:48:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Entropy [4228] (Score:2) 02Re:Huh? - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:04] <exec> 08└─In the US reproduction isn't allowed of those experiments due to it being traumatic to the subjects, so we're relying on 50 year old experiments.
[19:48:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Nature vs. nurture - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 462 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:17] <exec> 08└─Oh yes same book, but old thinking patterns. Writing 500 page academic tomes is OK and I suppose required so poli sci students have something to read, but its not modern way to output propaganda memes in the sense of mein kampf or maos little red book or was cutting edge at that time or whatever. Ki...
[19:48:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03bd [2773] (Score:2) 02Re:Disquiet - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 2305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:35] <exec> 08└─Sorry for the long post. Records showed that Gröning actually was transferred to the front after two years, something that was fairly high-risk in the later stages of the war, especially as an SS trooper. It is often said that no one in the SS was ever punished for refusing to kill prisoners, but r...
[19:48:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Disquiet - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:37] <exec> 08└─Well, he did join the SS of his own will. I guess the question is how much he may have know about what was going on when he made that decision.
[19:48:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:Good precedent. - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:47] <exec> 08└─The bureaucrats are the ones in charge of the wrongdoings.
[19:49:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Is it... - 06Researchers Find Biggest Exposed Fault On Earth - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:49:12] <exec> 08└─True Communism. Don't trust private companies keeping secrets, and give all your work to benefit everyone else for free.
[19:50:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:While the world has moved on - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 1958 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:50:13] <exec> 08└─The US units are based on the old "Imperial units" that we inherited from Britain. Because the US has a large population and is relatively distant from Europe there wasn't a strong impetus to change to the metric system in most areas. Less in the US than in Britain, because Britain was closer to Eur...
[19:50:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02A disservice to the apocalypse survivors - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:50:20] <exec> 08└─All well and great, but when we are attempting to rebuild civilization based on the data and documents left behind, knowing that a gram is itself based on the number of molecules in a mole of matter will be a big help to no one.
[19:50:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:relevant news for SN readers - 06Alzheimer's Disease Proteins Linked to Vision Loss Among Older People - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:50:36] <exec> 08└─... if you're lucky and careful.
[19:51:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02Typo or something - 06Researchers Develop New Parallel Computing Method - 111 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:51:31] <exec> 08└─I read the original paper, its kinda interesting. This major improvement leverages 8,192 Intel Xeon processors
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[20:45:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Glass is not a solid... - 06Theoretical Model Could Shatter a Mystery of Glass - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:30] <exec> 08└─Century old glass windows are thicker at the bottom because the glass is still viscous enough to slowly flow due to gravity.
[20:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Taibhsear [1464] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:Glass is not a solid... - 06Theoretical Model Could Shatter a Mystery of Glass - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:32] <exec> 08└─NOPE. Debunked long ago. https://io9.gizmodo.com [gizmodo.com]
[20:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Glass is not a solid... - 06Theoretical Model Could Shatter a Mystery of Glass - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:35] <exec> 08└─I remember watching a program on PBS a while back in which a physicist (or chemist) stated that in order for that statement to be true, the glass would have to have been there before the universe existed.
[20:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Glass is not a solid... - 06Theoretical Model Could Shatter a Mystery of Glass - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:37] <exec> 08└─No. They just didn't have such a good glass manufacturing process in those days, so they always put the glass in heavy side first.
[20:45:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:God = Server Admin [Re:Ah crap] - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:55] <exec> 08└─It can also lead people to observe what actually does enable one to become wealthy, and to redefine that as good. In large societies this can be quite destructive.
[20:45:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:God = Server Admin [Re:Ah crap] - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:56] <exec> 08└─If God is like our universe's server admins, He wants us all to stop wanking off except for the hot chicks.
[20:45:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score:2) 02Re:Ah crap - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 637 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:00] <exec> 08└─If we consider time to be a dimension, just like in the naive interpretation of the general theory of relativity, then our universe (time and space) could be embedded as a growing thin-walled bubble in a higher-dimensional universe, with which we still interact as our bubble keeps expanding (all tha...
[20:46:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Ah crap - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:03] <exec> 08└─How could there have been time before the universe?
[20:46:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Created as it and immutable ... - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:08] <exec> 08└─I did not either. I said they seem eternal based on my observation today, the same way that any measurement of c is probably going to return the same exact value today.
[20:46:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Created as it and immutable ... - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 1627 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:11] <exec> 08└─Speaking of lakes..... Long Valley Caldera [wikipedia.org] Over the course of a million years in Northern California there was "flat" land, volcano, caldera, probably nearly a lifetime filling with water (1,000 feet deep), over flowed, eroded and then drained, "flat" land again, hot springs, humans,...
[20:46:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score:2) 02Re:Created as it and immutable ... - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:15] <exec> 08└─Set your face to stunned: not all mountains are eternal [wikimedia.org].
[20:46:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Created as it and immutable ... - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:17] <exec> 08└─“Before I sought enlightenment, the mountains were mountains and the rivers were rivers. While I sought enlightenment, the mountains were not mountains and the rivers were not rivers. After I attained enlightenment, the mountains were mountains and the rivers were rivers.”.
[20:46:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Instant stability? Unlikely - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:28] <exec> 08└─If c were different in the past, that implies its still changing a bit. Thus, over time we should see a slight variation. It doesn't make sense c would be significantly different in the past, and then just stop changing altogether and then remain extremely constant.
[20:46:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Instant stability? Unlikely - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:30] <exec> 08└─Does the article actually say this?
[20:46:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Instant stability? Unlikely - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 796 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:33] <exec> 08└─THAT hypothesis is easy. Getting a reasonable one is more difficult. Getting a reasonable one that ends up with the speed of light between galaxies being the same as the speed of light near a massive body is a real challenge. So: To what extent do we KNOW that the speed of light between galaxies is...
[20:46:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:Instant stability? Unlikely - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:35] <exec> 08└─Um, yeah, it could be for example c = c_milliways * (1 + c_0/c_milliways * e^(- D * t) ), with t = time, c_milliways approximately what c is now, c_0/c_milliways a constant and D a very very large constant in Hz that only really mattered close to the Big Bang. Decays asymptotically from c_0 to c_mil...
[20:46:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Doing the Syntax Dance! - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:54] <exec> 08└─Its revealing that the only point you decided to address was the one of syntax. All the rest of bob's points, you know the ones with real meat on them, like water off a duck's back.
[20:47:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Charlie Wilson's War - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:47:04] <exec> 08└─photos seem to suggest that it was rather open and a bit "glitzy", a place for beautiful and enlightened people to hang out?
[20:47:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Assange is a boring tool of Putin - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 513 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:47:16] <exec> 08└─Often things have multiple causes: different forces coming together at the same time. To say a single force or action caused terror groups is presumptuous. I call political bias here. For example, one strong theory is that modern-day terror was invented by a combination of the Ireland conflict and t...
[20:47:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ramze [6029] (Score:1) 02Re:Alternate explanation - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 720 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:47:32] <exec> 08└─Bingo. If new computers aren't significantly more advanced than older models, then they've unintentionally extended the lifespan of those older models. The reason the PC market is declining is generally due to market saturation. Everyone that wanted one got one, and it's good enough. Laptops have...
[20:47:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Hardware slowdown - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 788 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:47:45] <exec> 08└─So right with the function keys. Normal people have so little use for them that a lot of laptops have mapped the media keys over them and you have to press FN+F# to get "normal" functionality. As a developer my left hand can get stuck on F9-F12 for periods of time (debugging). Some games make good u...
[20:47:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Hardware slowdown - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:47:47] <exec> 08└─Yeah, good point with the tablet. If you are mostly consuming and not creating then a tablet is perfect.
[20:48:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Antitrust much? - 06Microsoft Update Servers Left All Azure RHEL Instances Hackable - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:48:17] <exec> 08└─I don't find it much of a stretch...but it isn't inherently convincing, either. This is a case where I'm predisposed to believe MS did it on purpose, but I am well aware that this isn't because of evidence in this particular case.
[20:48:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Huh? - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 932 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:48:38] <exec> 08└─A terrible year? The social sciences have had a terrible existence, and an awful, draconian influence on politics (How many times has censorship been proposed because of what some laughably flawed social science study said?). Trying to measure the subjective without provably reliable ways of actuall...
[20:48:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Huh? - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:48:41] <exec> 08└─Mostly they haven't been done again exactly the same way out of ethical concerns for the subjects.
[20:48:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Nature vs. nurture - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:48:54] <exec> 08└─I fully expect President Trump to add me to The Great Deportation List for reading Al Jazeera reports on actual laws and actions taken by Israel against Palestinians.
[20:49:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Really touchy subject - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 693 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:49:03] <exec> 08└─And countless POW's who were executed under order. I can't say much, only that a former Iraq solder in the US Army was ordered to execute numerous prisoners right after they surrendered. Not all at once but after misc skirmishes. Anywhere from just a few to a dozen or so. The rational was "We had no...
[20:49:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good precedent. - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:49:28] <exec> 08└─Conducting mass surveillance on the populace is a serious matter, so the logic should remain the same. I know our courts probably won't see it that way since they despise the Constitution in general, but that's how it should be.
[20:49:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:green choice - 06A Satellite Image Could Change the Way We Build Cities - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:49:39] <exec> 08└─Solar panels covering shade-happy vegetation. Panels have very small thermal inertia so their local heating effect is tiny last compared to the road behind the house, and vegetation isolates well. Vegetation alone on any roof section where the panels wouldn't get enough direct light.
[20:50:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03dlb [4790] (Score:2) 02Re:Krebbs has good coverage, as usual - 06Alleged San Francisco Muni ‘Hacker’ Demanded $73,000 Ransom - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:50:22] <exec> 08└─From the parent's link [krebsonsecurity.com]: Personally, I try to avoid using vital services that allow someone to reset my password if they can guess the answers to my secret questions. But in some cases...answering secret questions is unavoidable.
[20:50:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:infinite stupidity - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:50:42] <exec> 08└─now you're just fucking with me. reference, just in case: https://xkcd.com [xkcd.com]
[20:50:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the deep reality is not at all - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:50:53] <exec> 08└─how the hell is this interesting? Avogadro's number has 23 digits. We can't measure it with 23 digit precision.
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[21:45:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Never - 06Multi-Megawatt Floating System Soon to Be Set Up Near Le Croisic, France - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:18] <exec> 08└─How long before Brexit Britain seizes the turbines and anchors them off Jersey?
[21:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Never - 06Multi-Megawatt Floating System Soon to Be Set Up Near Le Croisic, France - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:45:20] <exec> 08└─The objection to offshore wind farms was lead by the Kennedy family. [washingtontimes.com] Oddly you were silent then. Now you use anything as another excuse to pile on the hate.
[21:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03useless [426] (Score:2) 02Re:Never - 06Multi-Megawatt Floating System Soon to Be Set Up Near Le Croisic, France - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:45:25] <exec> 08└─*cough* [wikipedia.org]
[21:45:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Every breath of wind - 06Multi-Megawatt Floating System Soon to Be Set Up Near Le Croisic, France - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:28] <exec> 08└─That guy returning from the hillside with that bag of coal could never imagine the damage coal would do. What will we find in the future as every windy place has its winds absorbed and turned into electricity? How can this NOT change the weather, first locally, then over wide areas? Apparently some...
[21:45:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Informative) 02The missing link - 06Multi-Megawatt Floating System Soon to Be Set Up Near Le Croisic, France - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:30] <exec> 08└─The link to the project's web site is: http://floatgen.eu [floatgen.eu] Oddly the ring shape turns out to be square.
[21:45:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The missing link - 06Multi-Megawatt Floating System Soon to Be Set Up Near Le Croisic, France - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:45:32] <exec> 08└─Oddly the ring shape turns out to be square.
[21:45:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Glass is not a solid... - 06Theoretical Model Could Shatter a Mystery of Glass - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:45:44] <exec> 08└─That's not true either. About as many window panes were put in thick-portion-up as they were down.
[21:46:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:2) 02Re:Ah crap - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 854 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:46:09] <exec> 08└─The frenzy with which creationists and atheists debate the origin of the universe is one of the most depressing things about humanity. The Bible, and most other religious scriptures for that matter, is a collection of wisdom about living. Often the metaphysical assertions about creation are meant to...
[21:46:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Created as it and immutable ... - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:46:18] <exec> 08└─Bah! I'll go with my common sense and traditional values while you pie-in-the-sky dreamers scam the government for grant money.
[21:46:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:Gravity and Light... - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:46:27] <exec> 08└─So... If a black hole has so much gravity that light can't escape, then surely the speed of gravity's effects are faster than light. And... If the speed of light is constant, then prisms wouldn't work, and the doppler effect of light wouldn't exist. I'm no brainiac, but I've always thought the E=mc2...
[21:46:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Gravity and Light... - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:46:30] <exec> 08└─You're certainly not a brainiac, that's for sure.
[21:46:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02They fixed that - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:41] <exec> 08└─But some researchers have suggested that the speed of light could have been much higher in this early universe.
[21:47:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Charlie Wilson's War - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 1367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:47:04] <exec> 08└─I have to agree. Guess it was a slow conspiracy day at Wikileaks and they had very few submissions in the queue..... There are actual fucking conspiracies in our midst, and a well known fuckup of US diplomacy isn't one of them. It's so ridiculously logical for the U.S to arm Afghan rebels in an inva...
[21:47:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Charlie Wilson's War - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:47:14] <exec> 08└─Color me surprised that this "breaking news" from 1979 came out after "Clinton created ISIS" was no longer useful.
[21:47:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:CIA didn't create ISIS - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:47:28] <exec> 08└─Anybody can be nominated. Hitler's nomination was ironic. Stalin was nominated for his part in ending Hitler. That was reasonably legit. Few successful monsters are 100% evil. That's how they achieve success.
[21:47:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02blame Ca(rter|nada) - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 731 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:47:31] <exec> 08└─It amazes me how much some try to pin on the Carter administration, one noted for its ineffectuality and weakness, as well as being only 1 term. Like, that the housing bubble of 2007 happened because Carter signed the Community Reinvestment Act in 1977, and somehow no one saw fit to repeal this tick...
[21:49:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Medical Research - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:49:14] <exec> 08└─The bleeding edge of biomedical research is messy (complex systems that have many unknown variables) and much of it is done by people in training (graduate students and post-doctoral researchers), so it is difficult to tell the difference between "honest" mistakes/misinterpretations and the dishones...
[21:49:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:2) 02Re:Good precedent. - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 1048 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:49:35] <exec> 08└─What you're talking about is just punishment for moral wrongdoing. What I am talking about is punitive incentives not to engage in wrongdoing. It's a fine distinction, but I believe that when we allow our sense of justice to focus on just punishment rather than incentives, we fail to do everything w...
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[22:45:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Dirty Bomb? - 06Diamond Batteries From Carbon-14 - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:45:14] <exec> 08└─If you can use these in a dirty bomb, then its a non-starter for anything other than a well-guarded battery-farm out in the boonies.
[22:45:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Taibhsear [1464] (Score:2) 02prototype - 06Diamond Batteries From Carbon-14 - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:45:15] <exec> 08└─Sounds like their first prototype didn't use the c14 yet. Still sounds badass. Wonder what kind of output it's supposed to have, or how large they'd be.
[22:45:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Never - 06Multi-Megawatt Floating System Soon to Be Set Up Near Le Croisic, France - 1005 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:45:25] <exec> 08└─A President-elect acting like a corrupt fucking child talking to foreign heads of state for personal business matters regarding his well known opposition to both wind farms and climate "hooey"? It's going to be parked outside of New Jersey and his hotels? If I'm piling on anything, Trump is helping...
[22:45:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:Every breath of wind - 06Multi-Megawatt Floating System Soon to Be Set Up Near Le Croisic, France - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:45:31] <exec> 08└─What will we find in the future as every windy place has its winds absorbed and turned into electricity?
[22:45:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Glass is not a solid... - 06Theoretical Model Could Shatter a Mystery of Glass - 680 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:45:44] <exec> 08└─Pretty much the same argument which is a good challenge for high school physics students is optical "stuff" works best when correct to a tenth of a wavelength of light and its actually pretty easy to test and manipulate. Which is a zillion decimal places smaller than the window stories. So since gla...
[22:45:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Glass transition temp of epozy - 06Theoretical Model Could Shatter a Mystery of Glass - 1079 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:45:47] <exec> 08└─If you're ever really bored an on topic discussion is the glass/rubbery Tg glass transition temperature of epoxy plastics. It changes over time and doesn't happen at too high of a temperature. Epoxy will never reflow like solder but its mechanical and fatigue properties do convert from rubbery to gl...
[22:46:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:God = Server Admin [Re:Ah crap] - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:13] <exec> 08└─Yeah, and the Great Flood was not actually a punishment from god. It was an automation script gone bad. Also the locusts plague was a mod for his minecraft gone wrong.
[22:46:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Ah crap - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:17] <exec> 08└─If you believe that time and space are separate and that time is emergent only from the movement of objects in space, then i guess "before the big bang" has no meaning at all. (see Julian Barbour)
[22:46:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Ah crap - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:22] <exec> 08└─The Bible, and most other religious scriptures for that matter, is a collection of wisdom about living.
[22:46:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Created as it and immutable ... - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 793 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:30] <exec> 08└─> The error that bob_super makes is assuming that ... his point was clear enough. I didn't want to put a sarc or second degree tag, because I thought I had put enough indicators of narrow-mindedness. Eternal mountains, lakes, how unscientifically dumb are we all supposed to be? We could measure c al...
[22:46:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Gravity and Light... - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 1885 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:43] <exec> 08└─The effects of gravity do propagate at the speed of light. This can be calculated from the decay rate of binary pulars. It is commonly ignored because it's miniscule effect over orbital distances and time periods. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] Yes, if light cannot es...
[22:46:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Determining constancy - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:47] <exec> 08└─Well, actually the concept is that the speed of light and the speed of gravity differ. Why this is considered "variable speed of light" and not "variable speed of gravity" I have no idea.
[22:46:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Determining constancy - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 1156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:49] <exec> 08└─You could run a very long interferometer and accumulate position shift data for a hundred years and see if the light slows down which would make the interferometer accumulate a net positive error thinking its expanding. Now how to output a monochromatic light for a century while holding the apparatu...
[22:46:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Vacuum? - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:57] <exec> 08└─It was a Dyson.
[22:48:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Re:Unlike Android, iOS is not self-hosting - 06The Macintosh Endgame - 623 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:48:02] <exec> 08└─Majority of folks don't care about tinkering or choice, us geeks do for sure. The fragmentation problem with Android is a real problem for those folks. Buy a Sony phone today and upgrade to a LG 3 years later and guess what the Sony Experience app you have on your desktop that you've learned to use...
[22:48:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02mandatory Microsoft Azure Linux Agent - 06Microsoft Update Servers Left All Azure RHEL Instances Hackable - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:48:48] <exec> 08└─This creeped me out. Wtf? Seriously?
[22:48:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:eliminate Homeland Security immediately - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:48:58] <exec> 08└─Sexual assault. If a person is obviously no threat why do they stick their hands down their pants? The American constitution specifically disallows this. Passing through a border is not justification for a full body grope.
[22:51:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:A disservice to the apocalypse survivors - 06Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:51:21] <exec> 08└─It will certainly be more helpful than knowing that it is the mass of a lost artefact.
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[23:45:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dirty Bomb? - 06Diamond Batteries From Carbon-14 - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:19] <exec> 08└─Will these be made by Samsung?
[23:45:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:prototype - 06Diamond Batteries From Carbon-14 - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:21] <exec> 08└─Wonder what kind of output it's supposed to have, or how large they'd be.
[23:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Never - 06Multi-Megawatt Floating System Soon to Be Set Up Near Le Croisic, France - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:32] <exec> 08└─edIII, Jersey, not 'Jersey. Jersey is one of the Channel Islands just off the coast of France. 'Jersey is, *shudder*, across the Hudson.
[23:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Every breath of wind - 06Multi-Megawatt Floating System Soon to Be Set Up Near Le Croisic, France - 946 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:36] <exec> 08└─> BTW did you know that wind power is disguised solar energy? The Sun causes those temperature differentials that cause pressure differentials that give rise to wind. Not to nitpick, but everything is disguised solar energy, with the exception of nuclear isotopes, but those were formed from a supern...
[23:46:24] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03EvilSS [1456] 02Re:Created as it and immutable ... - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 383 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:46:24] <exec> 08└─I once watched a lake drain away in a few hours due to a sink hole. Should I now expect that any lake would not do the same at any moment? In 1943 the spot where mount Parícutin sits was a corn field. A decade later it was a 424 meter high volcano. Should everyone who witnessed that assume all mou...
[23:46:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Created as it and immutable ... - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:46:28] <exec> 08└─other than scary black holes
[23:46:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Created as it and immutable ... - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:46:33] <exec> 08└─Its trivially testable, hand out some ancient copies of the Dead Sea Scrolls to one team, and some ancient copies of some obsolete petroleum geology textbooks like an original edition of Levorsen and simply watch and see who strikes oil first... (well I assume Levorsen isn't still cutting edge anywa...
[23:46:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:measuring strechy things with stretchy rulers - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:46:39] <exec> 08└─yep, in a few {m|b}illion years from now
[23:46:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Instant stability? Unlikely - 06Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:46:56] <exec> 08└─I theorize the existence of the bullshit-ium particle which has a half live of a nanosecond and forms in the big bang at energy levels above a google of exo-electron volts and today we're quite a few half lives past such that its all gone.
[23:47:05] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Charlie Wilson's War - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 230 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:05] <exec> 08└─We already knew this. They made a damn movie about it. Starring Tom Freakin Hanks amd Julia Roberts. Charlie Wilson's War [wikipedia.org] Wikileaks used to tell us things that were (a) secret and (b) meaningful. Miss those days...
[23:47:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02You missed a lot - 06'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:47:47] <exec> 08└─What did I miss?
[23:49:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Nature vs. nurture - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:49:21] <exec> 08└─That makes sense because they're academics. Propaganda is not their purpose. It's a different milieu with different standards of evidence.
[23:49:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Medical Research - 06The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:49:34] <exec> 08└─it is almost surely correct
[23:50:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02He's called... - 06Researchers Find Biggest Exposed Fault On Earth - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:50:16] <exec> 08└─...Donald and there's no way on Earth I'm looking at his low-angle crack.
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