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[00:45:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Not a Slashvertisement - 06O'Reilly: Cyber Monday Sale; All 14,000 eBooks Discounted 50 Percent - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:07] <exec> 08└─Clearly, it's a Soyvertisement
[00:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score:2) 02Good call - 06O'Reilly: Cyber Monday Sale; All 14,000 eBooks Discounted 50 Percent - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:11] <exec> 08└─Thanks for running it, I would have missed it otherwise. O'Reilly is sufficiently topical here I'd say.
[00:45:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Safari Books Online - 06O'Reilly: Cyber Monday Sale; All 14,000 eBooks Discounted 50 Percent - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:14] <exec> 08└─I use Safari Books Online [safaribooksonline.com] and get full access to all the O'Reilly titles as well as a ton of other stuff.
[00:45:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:2) 02Re:No difference - 06Aloe Vera... Sans Aloe Vera - 672 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:45:31] <exec> 08└─From the GP linked wiki article: A 2007 review of aloe vera use in burns concluded, "cumulative evidence tends to support that aloe vera might be an effective intervention used in burn wound healing for first- to second-degree burns. Further, well-designed trials with sufficient details of the cont...
[00:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03b [2121] (Score:2) 02Re:No difference - 06Aloe Vera... Sans Aloe Vera - 567 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:45:32] <exec> 08└─Yes, the "Further…" sentence alarmed me. However, having read the abstract, perhaps it's a bit more useful than I thought. > Based on a meta-analysis using duration of wound healing as an outcome measure, the summary weighted mean difference in healing time of the aloe vera group was 8.79 days sho...
[00:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03b [2121] (Score:2) 02Re:No difference - 06Aloe Vera... Sans Aloe Vera - 555 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:45:35] <exec> 08└─At best, I'd still interpret it as inconclusive. There's a lot of "might"s in there. I think that it's fairly easy to design a poorly-controlled experiment in any field, and very difficult to exclude (or even identify) all compounding factors. If some of the studies say there *is* a difference, then...
[00:45:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Absolutely.Geek [5328] (Score:2) 02Masterfoods "Guacamole" - 06Aloe Vera... Sans Aloe Vera - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:39] <exec> 08└─This reminds me of Masterfoods Guacamole (sold in NZ, not sure for the rest of the world); ingredients list avocado at 1%; I'm guessing this is the minimum legal requirement to call something guacamole. It tastes like shit and looks like smooth green slop; I pity the people who think that is what re...
[00:45:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:2) 02Great business idea - 06Aloe Vera... Sans Aloe Vera - 600 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:41] <exec> 08└─An enterprising lawyer should buy a chemical analysis company just to run class-action suits against manufacturers claiming various ingredients. I don't think anyone is surprised that this was going on, hence why someone decided to have products tested, likely to fuel a lawsuit. I think — at least...
[00:46:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Worthless report - 06Vancouver Considers Abandoning Parts of the Coast Because of Climate Change - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:46:04] <exec> 08└─Seriously, are we to expect a municipal government plans (or even cares) a decade in advance?
[00:46:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:4,000 households worth $7 billion - 06Vancouver Considers Abandoning Parts of the Coast Because of Climate Change - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:46:12] <exec> 08└─It's the other way round, C$1 is worth US$0.74 and US$1 is worth C$1.35.
[00:47:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Re:My experience - it works, at least sometimes - 06FTC to Require Homeopathic Medicines Carry "Unscientific" Labeling - 1016 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:47:24] <exec> 08└─You also need to understand the history of medicine to see why homeopathy was initially popular. At the time, treatment was split between allopaths and homeopaths. The allopaths believed in aggressive treatment of sickness, which involved things like mercury, bloodletting (without any sterilisation...
[00:50:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Methods for staying safe - 06Windows 10 Informs Chrome and Firefox Users That Edge is "Safer" - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:50:17] <exec> 08└─Abortion is safer than ever. Learn more. [microsoft.com]
[00:54:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Private company - 06Breitbart News Site Blocked by Ad Exchange - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:54:24] <exec> 08└─Where did Christ say "thou shalt not serve gay people"? Try reading your bible again.
[00:55:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:Breaking News? - 06Fidel Castro Dies at 90 - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:55:25] <exec> 08└─"But what about zombie Castro?"
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[01:45:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Not a Slashvertisement - 06O'Reilly: Cyber Monday Sale; All 14,000 eBooks Discounted 50 Percent - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:16] <exec> 08└─Yes, you disgusting American pigs, I make two people like you in the toilet every morning. Kill yourselves over a $20 discount off Chinese-made flatscreen 40" televisions. Fight to the death, you pigs! Waste your whole day standing outside in line of a store showing utter disregard for your families...
[01:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Safari Books Online - 06O'Reilly: Cyber Monday Sale; All 14,000 eBooks Discounted 50 Percent - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:20] <exec> 08└─$400/year? Do you even get to keep copies or is it online only?
[01:45:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03theluggage [1797] 02Thinking of an article earlier today... - 06Aloe Vera... Sans Aloe Vera - 131 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:45:31] <exec> 08└─They should have labelled it Homeopathic Aloe Vera! 100x more potent than the version that actually contains the active ingredient!
[01:45:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No difference - 06Aloe Vera... Sans Aloe Vera - 657 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:36] <exec> 08└─Sham or not, if a manufacturer is allowed to lie about the main ingredients of their product, what else might other manufacturers be lying about if they can get away with chicanery of this magnitude? Why aren't they a smoking crater at the hands of the Federal Trade Commission? They are not making c...
[01:45:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormreaver [5101] (Score:2) 02Re:No difference - 06Aloe Vera... Sans Aloe Vera - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:43] <exec> 08└─That's anecdotal evidence, from a cohort of two people.
[01:45:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Great business idea - 06Aloe Vera... Sans Aloe Vera - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:50] <exec> 08└─Maybe that would attract the same kind of people that use various techniques to determine who has downloaded a song illegally then send them copyright violation letters... But then an angered corporation has teeth. A scared teenager does not have much defense.
[01:45:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02TJs - 06Aloe Vera... Sans Aloe Vera - 387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:45:53] <exec> 08└─Not a stock holder in Trader Joe's, but their small "health and beauty" section usually has 99% aloe gel. While I have no way to test, it feels and spreads like the actual gel from splitting a plant leaf. We've used it on small burns and light sunburns (after the fact, not a sunscreen) for many year...
[01:46:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:San Francisco? - 06Vancouver Considers Abandoning Parts of the Coast Because of Climate Change - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:46:09] <exec> 08└─I don't believe you. You come here to spout your offensive vitriol. I don't know if it is genuine, or just an offensive troll. What I do know is that there is absolutely no reason to believe anything that you post. Nothing.
[01:46:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Worthless report - 06Vancouver Considers Abandoning Parts of the Coast Because of Climate Change - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:46:18] <exec> 08└─Actually this is what khallow has been saying needs to be done - weigh the costs against taking preventative actions vs doing nothing and moving everyone off the land as it sinks. I'm surprised he hasn't chimed in yet.
[01:46:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:Wait and see? - 06Vancouver Considers Abandoning Parts of the Coast Because of Climate Change - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:46:23] <exec> 08└─The city has it's own infrastructure in the area. No houses, means you don't need roads, schools, community centres, power, sewage, etc.
[01:46:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:4,000 households worth $7 billion - 06Vancouver Considers Abandoning Parts of the Coast Because of Climate Change - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:46:28] <exec> 08└─You think insurance companies will pay out for this? lmao.
[01:46:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:There's a name for a stick used by a crow - 06Tools are Not Restricted to Great Apes and Hominids  - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:46:41] <exec> 08└─Birds pretty much have to use tools since they have to manipulate just about everything with their beak.
[01:47:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:it's not like - 06US Navy Sailors' Data Breached - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:47:02] <exec> 08└─fuck you racist scum!
[01:47:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Teaching cybersecurity? - 06Cyber College for Wannabe Codebreakers Planned at UK’s Iconic Bletchley Park - 1250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:47:12] <exec> 08└─Geez... here I am a degreed engineer, and when I first saw the opportunities for malware resulting from mixing code and data, I did my damndest to stop it. No one would listen. All it took to sway them was the money-makers cooing for them to use the "latest technology", even if it could not be trus...
[01:47:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:My experience - it works, at least sometimes - 06FTC to Require Homeopathic Medicines Carry "Unscientific" Labeling - 575 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:47:59] <exec> 08└─Agreed, it's not universal (very little is), but if it wasn't common, there wouldn't be an 800 mg ibuprofen pill and we wouldn't see aggressive marketing of the newer more expensive drugs that rarely have an actual advantage over the drug they replace. In cases where the newer drug eliminates an ann...
[01:48:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:My experience - it works, at least sometimes - 06FTC to Require Homeopathic Medicines Carry "Unscientific" Labeling - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:48:03] <exec> 08└─Doctor: He needs this treatment in the next 5 minutes or he'll die! Krishnoid'a family member: Uhhh, I dunno, I'll call around and get back to you... Meanwhile, I have heard of estimates from hospitals. They don't include a number of very expensive parts of the procedure in many cases.
[01:48:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Marketing, greed, fear, and doubt. - 06Why Did Ancient Italians Bury Thousands of Clay Body Parts? - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:48:43] <exec> 08└─People who have "leadership skills" often lead scores of gullible "believers" to do the damndest things. This still goes on to this day.
[01:49:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:or... the obvious - 06Claims That Criminal Behaviour Can be Identified From Facial Features - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:49:17] <exec> 08└─I have heard about the big shoes meaning something else on me is big.... I wear size 12's. The other part of me that is big apparently is my mouth.... I guess from putting my foot in it so many times. I only wish it would apply midway, so I could do away with the saw palmetto.
[01:49:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:or... the obvious - 06Claims That Criminal Behaviour Can be Identified From Facial Features - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:49:22] <exec> 08└─Isn't it a shame to have "fully informed jurors" kicked out of the pool. To me this is like saying I want someone to fix my truck, but if he knows anything about mechanics, he is disqualified.  
[01:50:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Hell yeah! - 06Claims That Criminal Behaviour Can be Identified From Facial Features - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:50:01] <exec> 08└─I propose they roll this out to all election candidates, start with presidential candidates, as a first go!
[01:50:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Re:Only if I were naïve and uninformed. - 06Windows 10 Informs Chrome and Firefox Users That Edge is "Safer" - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:50:20] <exec> 08└─Product placement vs. Security claims. Quite different... don't you think?
[01:51:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:Empty comments section? - 06Scientists Explore Environmental Advantages of Horticultural Bioplastics - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:51:00] <exec> 08└─I'm visible now! "But he looked so hungry, he was starving! I just had to feed him a little."
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[02:45:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02If I was dictator - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:14] <exec> 08└─I'd cut the defense budget by 25%, and the NSA by 50%. If, after a couple years stuff like the F35 and Zumwalt were still going forward I'd cut defense by another 25%. It's time for unlimited budgets to end. You say what you want, companies say "I can do that" for $xxx, and they get $xxx do deliver...
[02:45:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If I was dictator - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:45:16] <exec> 08└─Gov't bidding works like this... Bid is $x, final cost is $x*3, and most of it was pocketed.
[02:45:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:If I was dictator - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 639 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:45:19] <exec> 08└─I agree, in fact, there are other ways to funnel the money to the military industrial complex and intelligence -- For example, the CIA with the help of the military reopened the lucrative Afghan heroin trade (which the Taliban had under control before the American invasion) and the drug and gun-runn...
[02:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:2) 02Re: Superiority - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:21] <exec> 08└─That feels too similar to the events of the 2016 election for comfort.
[02:45:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02How To Be An App Billionaire - 06O'Reilly: Cyber Monday Sale; All 14,000 eBooks Discounted 50 Percent - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:33] <exec> 08└─Seriously, if you're not an app billionaire by now, you have no future in tech. Stop wasting your money buying tech books. The End
[02:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''JavaScript required'' - 06O'Reilly: Cyber Monday Sale; All 14,000 eBooks Discounted 50 Percent - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:34] <exec> 08└─I don't do JavaScript and I didn't have any problem reading the page. (When a page won't work for me, I add an archive.li link if that works OK.) Now, the page's HTML construction is HORRIBLE. 101 Errors [w3.org] When I tried to find a useful #FragmentIdentifier, my browser strained with their crap...
[02:46:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:San Francisco? - 06Vancouver Considers Abandoning Parts of the Coast Because of Climate Change - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:46:19] <exec> 08└─Ethanol-fueled wrote: degenerate sodomites
[02:47:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:My experience - it works, at least sometimes - 06FTC to Require Homeopathic Medicines Carry "Unscientific" Labeling - 360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:47:53] <exec> 08└─LOL, my Mandarin slipping in there. But yes, that's the tree I'm talking about. Also, it never ceases to amaze me how poor people's reading comprehension could be. Anybody that really needs to know and didn't make the connection would just look up Taxol and find that there was a typo. Everybody else...
[02:51:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:So, what's new? - 06Scientists Explore Environmental Advantages of Horticultural Bioplastics - 598 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:51:01] <exec> 08└─And for large scale production shouldn't everyone be using at least hydroponics if not aeroponics anyway? Much more environmentally friendly too, at least for water use, pest and disease control/poisons, eradicating runoffs, and maybe also maximizing the plants atmosphere. Far less chance of anyone...
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[03:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02"We're flogging a dead horse" - 06Failure of Promising Alzheimer Drug Strikes a Blow to Theory - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:45:11] <exec> 08└─he says that like it's a bad thing.
[03:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:"We're flogging a dead horse" - 06Failure of Promising Alzheimer Drug Strikes a Blow to Theory - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:45:12] <exec> 08└─Well, it's probably preferred by the horse that's still alive.
[03:45:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"We're flogging a dead horse" - 06Failure of Promising Alzheimer Drug Strikes a Blow to Theory - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:45:18] <exec> 08└─Fellating. Fellating a live horse.
[03:45:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If I was dictator - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:45:28] <exec> 08└─At least it's not $x 3. "I have altered the deal. Pray I do not alter it further."
[03:45:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Re:If I was dictator - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 469 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:45:31] <exec> 08└─For all of their faults, things like the F35 and the Zumwalt are how the military learns what works and what doesn't. These projects cost because they are on the bleeding edge trying to do things that were only theoretically possible when the project started. If you were dictator, your empire might...
[03:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02''Re:'' in a Subject line - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:45:35] <exec> 08└─That "Re:" should indicate that you're responding to a previous comment. "WRT" would have been better there. -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
[03:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Another editor fucking with hyperlinks - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:45:37] <exec> 08└─If you're going to (needlessly) change the m to www in the links to El Reg, the correct #FragmentIdentifier is #body. -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
[03:45:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02POS - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 544 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:45:39] <exec> 08└─You heard it from me, many months ago. That Zumwalt is a POS. I don't want to go to sea aboard it. Just wait until it sees a storm. Wait - someone will spout off about modern ships avoiding storms. Same crap I heard about Steve Job's yacht. And, it's utter bullshit. A ship that can't go where the ma...
[03:45:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score:2) 02Browser hijack warning? - 06O'Reilly: Cyber Monday Sale; All 14,000 eBooks Discounted 50 Percent - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:45:52] <exec> 08└─this story which could well be considered a "slashvertisement".
[03:46:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:No difference - 06Aloe Vera... Sans Aloe Vera - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:46:08] <exec> 08└─In this case it sounds like they weren't even required to list the ingredients, so they happily lied about it and increased their profits.
[03:46:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:San Francisco? - 06Vancouver Considers Abandoning Parts of the Coast Because of Climate Change - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:46:42] <exec> 08└─The sea levels are rising a few centimeters per century, which is hardly an emergency. And the coastline may rise (or fall) as the land itself shifts. I think EtOH is dead on here.
[03:48:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My experience - it works, at least sometimes - 06FTC to Require Homeopathic Medicines Carry "Unscientific" Labeling - 679 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:48:34] <exec> 08└─When I moved from LA to NY, I had to do a lot more walking. I got bone spurs too. Excruciatingly painful. My dad raised me with a generous dose of skepticism of the medical community (he was a hospital administrator) so I didn't go to any doctors at all. I didn't take any vitamins or change my diet...
[03:48:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:WalMart?? - 06Walmart is Testing Out Using Blockchain to Track Food Through its Supply Chain - 472 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:48:53] <exec> 08└─Interesting point. One could use database lookups through the supply chain to track stuff. But hey if things go wrong, you have a LOT to cover up. WAL, logs, backups AND making the result valid, through ongoing transactions maybe. What if you have a blockchain? Harder to spoof? NOT IF YOU HAVE CONSE...
[03:49:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02GIGO - 06Claims That Criminal Behaviour Can be Identified From Facial Features - 538 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:49:36] <exec> 08└─Classic Big Data stupid. They trained it with data from the current criminal justice system. And they didn't train it on the data of all the unsolved crimes because there is no data, that's why they are unsolved. So all the current biases of the current system are baked into the AI. This doesn't pre...
[03:50:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score:2) 02Re:Only if I were naïve and uninformed. - 06Windows 10 Informs Chrome and Firefox Users That Edge is "Safer" - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:50:45] <exec> 08└─Windows is a choice.
[03:51:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Make it go away - 06Windows 10 Informs Chrome and Firefox Users That Edge is "Safer" - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:51:07] <exec> 08└─Honest question: Are you for real?
[03:53:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Re:Confused - 06UK Police Worried They Lack Powers to Probe Phone Involvement in Crashes - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:53:25] <exec> 08└─There are numerous studies that say using a phone is more distracting than a passenger
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[04:45:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Beat it like a bitch - 06Failure of Promising Alzheimer Drug Strikes a Blow to Theory - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:45:17] <exec> 08└─That's science. Sometimes, you hit a strike. Most of the times, though, you hit the gutter. I for one welcome our new editor.
[04:45:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:If I was dictator - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 1244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:45:30] <exec> 08└─Sorry - I can't accept "learning" as a reason to piss away billions of dollars. The contractor should have built the damned plane, THEN tried to sell it to the government. The whole F-35 thing is a case of the tail wagging the dog. And, the stupid dog masturbated to the entire deal. The Zumwalt? The...
[04:45:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Re:If I was dictator - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:45:31] <exec> 08└─I can't tell whether you are talking about the the Zumwalt or the LCS classes that seem to have similar problems but are build for different roles. My read on the Zumwalt is that it is closer to a BB in role - an enormous surface to surface capability but not much else. And the future home of a bi...
[04:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:If I was dictator - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:45:33] <exec> 08└─How many billions of dollars to learn that "jack of all trades master of none" applies to aircraft?
[04:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Re:If I was dictator - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:45:35] <exec> 08└─I'm guessing about 1500 billions. [goodreads.com]
[04:45:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03charon [5660] (Score:2) 02Re:Another editor fucking with hyperlinks - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 554 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:45:40] <exec> 08└─A) Not everyone browses on a mobile device. The mobile layout is awful on a real computer. If the website detects you should be using the mobile layout, it will serve it to you anyway. With that one link to the true site, everyone is happy. B) #body brings you to the top of the text, scrolling down...
[04:45:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Another editor fucking with hyperlinks - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:45:43] <exec> 08└─El Reg has a known problem of images not always loading correctly on the main domain, but working fine on mobile. Probably due to reduced scripting. You can see this mentioned within stories and footnotes. That alone is probably a good enough reason to link to m.theregister.co.uk.
[04:45:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Another editor fucking with hyperlinks - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:45:45] <exec> 08└─Now that I look it, I see an image on the main version, and no image on mobile. Maybe I'm full of it.
[04:45:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Another editor fucking with hyperlinks - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:45:47] <exec> 08└─A new generation of eds to yell at. Here, I'll change it back for you.
[04:45:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score:2) 02Re:POS - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:45:50] <exec> 08└─I'm expecting it to eventually roll and sink to the bottom. Most likely it will happen in the first major storm it passes through.
[04:45:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:POS - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 1753 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:45:52] <exec> 08└─Eh, it's supposed to be able to navigate around or through storms about as well as other destroyers. According to simulation and model testing, and with some hemming and hawwing and caveats. Any ship has certain angles it wants to avoid in high seas. One might read between the lines and infer that t...
[04:45:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Hooray for new editor - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:45:54] <exec> 08└─We'll bitch and moan and then some, but then we would, wouldn't we? :) Welcome.
[04:46:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:''JavaScript required'' - 06O'Reilly: Cyber Monday Sale; All 14,000 eBooks Discounted 50 Percent - 628 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:46:08] <exec> 08└─Really? I seem to be getting all the layout and nonsense on the periphery but missing the main text. There's a large space where I presume something informative and useful might appear but it's mostly blank, with "Spend More, Save More Save 60% on orders greater than $100!" taking up only a small fr...
[04:46:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the problem - 06Aloe Vera... Sans Aloe Vera - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:46:19] <exec> 08└─As does fraud.
[04:48:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My experience - it works, at least sometimes - 06FTC to Require Homeopathic Medicines Carry "Unscientific" Labeling - 453 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:48:31] <exec> 08└─So, you meant a "You" tree? C'mon, Francis! You know this place is mostly Americans, so asking them to google mandarin is just like asking them to blow Eth. How much easier would it be if you checked on correct spelling? This was not even a typo. And, you are hijacking the thread, which is not at al...
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[05:44:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03charon [5660] (Score:1, Troll) 02Fascinating - 06Every Unix Commit from 1970 to Now() as a Pretty Video - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:44:53] <exec> 08└─Mesmerizing to watch. There are other videos for different projects in the youtube related links if UNIX is not enough.
[05:44:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Don't you mean Linux? - 06Every Unix Commit from 1970 to Now() as a Pretty Video - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:44:55] <exec> 08└─Git commit wasn't invented until 2005. Shoving antique versions of Unix onto the Hipster ShitHub doesn't rewrite history to make anyone believe that Git has existed since the dawn of time, or that anyone made "commits" to Unix in 1970. code trees with magnitudes more code becoming sentient
[05:44:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Troll) 02Re:Don't you mean Linux? - 06Every Unix Commit from 1970 to Now() as a Pretty Video - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:44:57] <exec> 08└─Fuck off troll! Linux is the shizznitz!! Social my nuts!!! Cunniliguate your grandmother!!!!
[05:45:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Amyloid plaques could still be a cause - 06Failure of Promising Alzheimer Drug Strikes a Blow to Theory - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:45:08] <exec> 08└─If amyloid plaques break connection networks in the brain, just removing the plaques isn't necessarily going to fix the connection networks -- the damage might have already been done. They could also be a symptom rather than the cause. In any case, getting negative results is more information than n...
[05:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:If I was dictator - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:45:20] <exec> 08└─Its worse than that. The bidder know that they will raise the price at time of bidding. They factor that into the whole effort. The govt negotiators are completely out of their depth compared to the high paid corporates - not to mention its not "their" money they are spending to begin with. Then add...
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[05:46:43] <exec> 08└─At risk of bringing some facts to the debate: http://vancouver.ca [vancouver.ca] There is a chart showing sea level from 1950 to projected 2100. Now you can dispute the predictions if you like, but there was a 20 cm rise from 1950 to 2000. That makes a 40 cm rise...
[05:49:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Professional lip readers? Seriously? - 06AI Has Beaten Humans at Lip-Reading - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:49:28] <exec> 08└─I believe the entire point was that yes, they can't hear you, but they know what you're saying anyway.
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[06:44:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I know - 06Your Dog Remembers More Than You Might Think - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:44:54] <exec> 08└─I shouldn't have let the dog watch me masturbate.
[06:44:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I know - 06Your Dog Remembers More Than You Might Think - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:44:55] <exec> 08└─That's alright, your dog doesn't have the same bio-mechanics to imitate that. Keep on doin whatcha been doin....
[06:44:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I know - 06Your Dog Remembers More Than You Might Think - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:44:58] <exec> 08└─No worry, your dog just thinks you're lame. After all, he can give himself a blow job.
[06:45:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't you mean Linux? - 06Every Unix Commit from 1970 to Now() as a Pretty Video - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:45:09] <exec> 08└─Wow. Did somebody get up on the grumpy side of the bed this morning?
[06:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't you mean Linux? - 06Every Unix Commit from 1970 to Now() as a Pretty Video - 3 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:45:11] <exec> 08└─Lol
[06:45:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Beat it like a bitch - 06Failure of Promising Alzheimer Drug Strikes a Blow to Theory - 436 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:45:22] <exec> 08└─It's going to depend upon why this failed, if it's a matter of it just not getting into the brain, that's one thing. But, ultimately, if they've been working in this line for that long without much to show for it, that's probably not a good thing. Unfortunately, biotech can take a long time until yo...
[06:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Beat it like a bitch - 06Failure of Promising Alzheimer Drug Strikes a Blow to Theory - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:45:24] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, biotech can take a long time until you get a result, and if it doesn't work, then you're left starting over again, hopefully with some new insights about why it didn't work.
[06:45:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fnord666 [652] (Score:2) 02Re:Amyloid plaques could still be a cause - 06Failure of Promising Alzheimer Drug Strikes a Blow to Theory - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:45:27] <exec> 08└─If amyloid plaques break connection networks in the brain, just removing the plaques isn't necessarily going to fix the connection networks -- the damage might have already been done. They could also be a symptom rather than the cause. In any case, getting negative results is more information than n...
[06:47:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Worthless report - 06Vancouver Considers Abandoning Parts of the Coast Because of Climate Change - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:47:05] <exec> 08└─No. Civilized people in most first-rate first-world countries have learned that politicians never seem to be able to see past the next election. People see that politicians (particularly municipal politicians) are mostly interested in building their own empires and lining their own pockets with mone...
[06:49:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Tracking what, or who? - 06Walmart is Testing Out Using Blockchain to Track Food Through its Supply Chain - 2592 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:49:08] <exec> 08└─My latest experience: Tonight.... I go to K-Mart. Buy ONE item, a bottle of sodapop flavor syrup. $2. Cash. At register, first question from cashier... "Can I have your phone number?" Me: "I am not in your system." Cashier: "Ok. Do you want to donate to (some charity they are collecting for)?" Me:...
[06:49:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Computer assisted lip-reading ... - 06AI Has Beaten Humans at Lip-Reading - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:49:40] <exec> 08└─As one who is beginning to have hearing impairment, I would welcome a pair of glasses that gave me closed-captioning on the pair of lips I am looking at.
[06:51:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] 02I have no doubt its 100% true.. - 06Windows 10 Informs Chrome and Firefox Users That Edge is "Safer" - 1732 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:51:32] <exec> 08└─but that doesn't make Edge any less of a hot mess of a UI, it just shows how far the quality has fallen on the other two browsers. I've seen enough at the shop to know FF is a fricking nightmare when it comes to XSS attacks, for just one example you can set up a Yahoo mail account, have it open in a...
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[07:45:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:2) 02Re:I know - 06Your Dog Remembers More Than You Might Think - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:01] <exec> 08└─After all, the reason why dogs lick themselves is because they can't make a fist.
[07:45:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03fubari [4551] (Score:2) 02Clever way to study intelligence! - 06Your Dog Remembers More Than You Might Think - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:45:03] <exec> 08└─Very cool - a clever way to study intelligence. The title ScienceMag used on TFA: "Your Dog is a Copycat" seems click-baity. I might have called it "Study shows Dog thinking closer to Apes and Humans"... hard to phrase concisely and precisely (which I suppose is why I'm not a writer). Much deeper be...
[07:45:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Amyloid plaques could still be a cause - 06Failure of Promising Alzheimer Drug Strikes a Blow to Theory - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:30] <exec> 08└─The "diabetes type 3" theory seems more promising. https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov [nih.gov] The plaque stuff has never been convincing to me. It was like saying scar tissue is the problem. In some cases...
[07:45:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:If I was dictator - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:46] <exec> 08└─Sorry - I can't accept "learning" as a reason to piss away billions of dollars.
[07:45:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''#body brings you to the top of the text'' - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:56] <exec> 08└─Exactly. As I have said before, I index links so that our blind Soylentils who use screenreaders don't have to fart around finding the start of the article. It is also below the story author's byline Way down on my priority list. Fully-sighted folks who are interested can easily scroll around and fi...
[07:45:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''I'll change it back'' - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:59] <exec> 08└─...and, in the process, destroyed the reason for my complaint? (Someone completely removed the indexing intended for our blind Soylentils).   8-( -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
[07:47:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheLink [332] (Score:2) 02Tool use != tool creation - 06Tools are Not Restricted to Great Apes and Hominids  - 1815 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:37] <exec> 08└─It should be no surprise that many animals use tools. Many of them are not born automatically knowing how to use their limbs properly. Just look at kittens learning to walk: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] Or some birds learning to fly. There really isn't a huge difference...
[07:48:37] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03purple_cobra [1435] 02Re:My experience - it works, at least sometimes - 06FTC to Require Homeopathic Medicines Carry "Unscientific" Labeling - 179 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:37] <exec> 08└─You'll notice the sellers don't like being paid in a homeopathic fashion, though: give them a glass of water that you dipped your credit card in and they get very shirty with you.
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[08:45:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Trump Dollar is the only currency - 06Zimbabwe to Start Circulating New Bond Notes on Monday - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:45:01] <exec> 08└─Stupid cuntries use stupid monopoly money like stupid cunts.
[08:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I know - 06Your Dog Remembers More Than You Might Think - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:45:12] <exec> 08└─So you're saying you can't give yourself a blowjob? You're so lame.
[08:46:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:Another editor fucking with hyperlinks - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:46:07] <exec> 08└─If you're going to (needlessly) change the m to www in the links to El Reg,
[08:46:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:''JavaScript required'' - 06O'Reilly: Cyber Monday Sale; All 14,000 eBooks Discounted 50 Percent - 558 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:46:27] <exec> 08└─getting all the layout and nonsense on the periphery but missing the main text Hmmm. I must be blocking the stupid junk that is screwing it up for you. Tried View + No Style ? I did mention that their HTML is HORRIBLE. Seems obvious that their "web developer" (and the guy who checked his work before...
[08:47:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:San Francisco? - 06Vancouver Considers Abandoning Parts of the Coast Because of Climate Change - 338 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:21] <exec> 08└─To be fair, I'm pretty sure he's never had sex and never will (no, Eth, your hand doesn't count and neither does sitting on an empty beer bottle, speaking of "degenerate..."). It's hard to tell what he believes, what's pure trollery, and what's some combination of both, and in what proportion. He's...
[08:47:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:4,000 households worth $7 billion - 06Vancouver Considers Abandoning Parts of the Coast Because of Climate Change - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:43] <exec> 08└─In Vancouver BC a $1.7CAD house is a dump.
[08:47:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Sell it to Republicans - 06Vancouver Considers Abandoning Parts of the Coast Because of Climate Change - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:47:45] <exec> 08└─can't wait to see their faces
[08:49:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Italian humour - 06Why Did Ancient Italians Bury Thousands of Clay Body Parts? - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:56] <exec> 08└─What's so funny about spaghetti? The funny bit is the way many people eat it - twirling it and splashing sauce everywhere. That said I haven't yet dared to walk into an Italian restaurant and asked for a pair of chopsticks to eat their spaghetti ;).
[08:50:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Best Pick-up Line Ever - 06AI Has Beaten Humans at Lip-Reading - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:18] <exec> 08└─You are not a star, that won't work. Trump out.
[08:51:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03SunKis [2973] (Score:1) 02Re:Only if I were naïve and uninformed. - 06Windows 10 Informs Chrome and Firefox Users That Edge is "Safer" - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:51:34] <exec> 08└─Try this: Issue a MS code signing certificate from Thawte with anything other than IE on Windows 10.
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[09:44:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02We will use Facebook to find the terrorsts. - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:44:55] <exec> 08└─And then we face-fuck them all to death! America wins. Zuck on it.
[09:44:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Silicon Valley doesn't do tech anymore - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:44:57] <exec> 08└─When are the "tech" billionaires going to admit that they aren't developing technology anymore, and all they do is advertising, marketing, and media.
[09:45:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02These notes have value? - 06Zimbabwe to Start Circulating New Bond Notes on Monday - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:45:07] <exec> 08└─My guess is the only way these notes are going to have any value is if they are used for paying tax.
[09:45:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Insightful) 02keeping the money at home - 06Zimbabwe to Start Circulating New Bond Notes on Monday - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:45:09] <exec> 08└─The bond notes will be officially interchangeable 1:1 with the U.S. dollar.
[09:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Gold standard - 06Zimbabwe to Start Circulating New Bond Notes on Monday - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:45:11] <exec> 08└─So is Zimbabwe backing their currency with... US currency? Of course, currency is only as good as the trust in it; how many Zimbabweans trust that their government will really exchange these notes 1:1 with USD? Probably not many. (US currency is not backed by gold any more. It's trust all the way do...
[09:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I don't understand - 06Zimbabwe to Start Circulating New Bond Notes on Monday - 382 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:45:13] <exec> 08└─The desootic evil ruthless white bastards and their families were chased out of the country or killed to hand the profitable farming land back to the blacks it was stolen from. Blacks run the places. Their justice is seen widely. How can there be problems? This must be filthy white bastard lies sent...
[09:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't you mean Linux? - 06Every Unix Commit from 1970 to Now() as a Pretty Video - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:45:36] <exec> 08└─Yes that's right. I rolled out of bed when the SunOS hit my eyes. Before breakfast I kicked a Linux penguin to death.
[09:45:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Actually UNIX - 06Every Unix Commit from 1970 to Now() as a Pretty Video - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:45:38] <exec> 08└─I was confused at first, like that belligerent AC. Given that UNIX existed long before modern version control and there is no single UNIX but rather a few dozen related variants, compiling a history is nontrivial. This is in fact a history of UNIX changes, kudos to the (human) compiler. If I have ti...
[09:45:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"We're flogging a dead horse" - 06Failure of Promising Alzheimer Drug Strikes a Blow to Theory - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:45:49] <exec> 08└─Not a big deal for a horse, he can do it himself!
[09:47:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Meh - 06Aloe Vera... Sans Aloe Vera - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:47:12] <exec> 08└─Aloe Vera... Sans Aloe Vera
[09:47:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:4,000 households worth $7 billion - 06Vancouver Considers Abandoning Parts of the Coast Because of Climate Change - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:47:52] <exec> 08└─No, I think insurance companies will end up paying if homes, buildings, infrastructure, etc, etc still exists in these locations and the sea swallows them up.
[09:48:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:Tool use != tool creation - 06Tools are Not Restricted to Great Apes and Hominids  - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:48:10] <exec> 08└─Getting a little of topic, but I think thought relies on struggle/problem solving, much like building muscle relies on struggle, tearing your existing muscle.
[09:49:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:My experience - it works, at least sometimes - 06FTC to Require Homeopathic Medicines Carry "Unscientific" Labeling - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:49:04] <exec> 08└─Or it could be that the spurs went away for entirely unrelated reasons. The scientific method exists for a reason. Given any treatment, it will work effectively for some proportion of the population, for any disease, even if that treatment is closing one eye and dancing on top of a teddy bear while...
[09:49:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:Overkill? - 06Walmart is Testing Out Using Blockchain to Track Food Through its Supply Chain - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:49:55] <exec> 08└─If they need consensus validation, doesn't that imply that they don't trust all of their nodes? I'm not sure I like the implications.
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[10:45:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03garrulus [6051] (Score:1) 02Hail - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:45:07] <exec> 08└─Hail The Children of the Sun, Hail Peter Thiel, Hail Victory.
[10:45:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Nero didn't burn Rome - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:45:08] <exec> 08└─Heck, Emperor Nero of Rome did it when he let Rome burn so he could build new condos!
[10:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Clever way to study intelligence! - 06Your Dog Remembers More Than You Might Think - 546 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:45:32] <exec> 08└─But "copycat" plays the dog vs cat idiom, or in many cases dog owner vs humans owned by their cats. I think this is an interesting experiment, but IMHO having some form of episodic memory doesn't really qualify for a title like "Study shows Dog thinking closer to Apes and Humans". I think it means d...
[10:45:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Your Dog Remembers More Than You Might Think - 06Your Dog Remembers More Than You Might Think - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:45:34] <exec> 08└─Does it remember my webmail password?
[10:45:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Actually UNIX - 06Every Unix Commit from 1970 to Now() as a Pretty Video - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:45:48] <exec> 08└─UNIX existed long before modern version control
[10:45:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Actually UNIX - 06Every Unix Commit from 1970 to Now() as a Pretty Video - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:45:49] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but Unix wasn't built. It just evolved naturally.
[10:46:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Safari Books Online - 06O'Reilly: Cyber Monday Sale; All 14,000 eBooks Discounted 50 Percent - 565 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:46:50] <exec> 08└─$400 a year seems high, but that's the cost of one or two books per month? With two in college and two in high school the research books available from the other the other publishers are a life saver. Plus, I am no longer investing in bookcases. You can download parts of or whole books based on a to...
[10:47:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:No difference - 06Aloe Vera... Sans Aloe Vera - 522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:47:11] <exec> 08└─Only in America... Why aren't they a smoking crater at the hands of the Federal Trade Commission? /quote? FWIW, this shit would get smacked down hard in Europe. We have rules about this kind of thing. If the ingredients list is found to be any way misleading, you can bet that the company responsibl...
[10:50:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02We make them too. - 06Why Did Ancient Italians Bury Thousands of Clay Body Parts? - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:50:25] <exec> 08└─They come in a kit called "Mr. Potato Head". We also bury them by losing them in sandboxes.
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[11:45:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02end White privilege - 06Predatory Bacteria could be a New Weapon Against Superbugs - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:45:01] <exec> 08└─Engineer bacteria to kill White people.
[11:45:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Brain Trust? - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:45:13] <exec> 08└─Hmm... Yeah, I might not need to pass a background check to join a brain trust. Any actual high-security job I'd likely be right out for my posting history alone though.
[11:45:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02It's trust all the way down... to the TPM&ME... - 06Zimbabwe to Start Circulating New Bond Notes on Monday - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:45:25] <exec> 08└─Then you find that it was all built on lies and control, and that you're well and thoroughly fucked, with a recorded history of all your actions... Unless you were smart enough to use two devices instead :)
[11:45:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:I don't understand - 06Zimbabwe to Start Circulating New Bond Notes on Monday - 979 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:45:27] <exec> 08└─I once knew somebody who had travelled the length of Zimbabwe. She said that (besides being piss-poor and having Mugabe as autocrat and having to eat sadza [wikipedia.org] all the time) the country has a very large social problem: After the revolution, there was no real plan to take care of the nume...
[11:45:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Hey, it's not his fault! - 06Every Unix Commit from 1970 to Now() as a Pretty Video - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:45:54] <exec> 08└─Global warming left him without a home, and H1Bs+TPM+government regulation left him without a job! ^.^
[11:46:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:Amyloid plaques could still be a cause - 06Failure of Promising Alzheimer Drug Strikes a Blow to Theory - 748 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:46:16] <exec> 08└─The Amyloid pre-cursor (AB) lives on Chr 21, for which Down's syndrome (21 trisomy) is the only one that lives to adulthood. All Downs patients, will get Alzhemiers by virtue of the fact they have 3 copies of A-Beta. There are variants from 36-43 amino acids long. The longer this peptide gets, the e...
[11:46:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If I was dictator - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:46:36] <exec> 08└─Billions? Trillions!
[11:46:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Username [4557] (Score:2) 02Re:''Re:'' in a Subject line - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:46:39] <exec> 08└─Did Linksys make the headline?
[11:46:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Another editor fucking with hyperlinks - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:46:48] <exec> 08└─Here, I'll change it back for you.
[11:46:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Another editor fucking with hyperlinks - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:46:51] <exec> 08└─Needlessly??? It saves the readers from doing it manually. Those "m" URLs are a pest.
[11:47:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Thinking of an article earlier today... - 06Aloe Vera... Sans Aloe Vera - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:47:24] <exec> 08└─Well, their next version might be sold as "now with 100% more Aloe Vera" and it will not even be a lie, as 100% of nothing is still nothing.
[11:49:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My experience - it works, at least sometimes - 06FTC to Require Homeopathic Medicines Carry "Unscientific" Labeling - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:49:43] <exec> 08└─Of course they won't accept it. A credit card isn't real money. Dip a bit of gold in the water and they should happily accept it! And don't draw wrong conclusions when they at first reject it. You know, it first has to get worse before it gets better, so it's a perfectly normal reaction.
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[12:45:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Those who don't learn from history... - 06Predatory Bacteria could be a New Weapon Against Superbugs - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:19] <exec> 08└─setting predator bacteria loose to eat the harmful ones. What could go wrong? After all, introducing a new species to control an unwanted one always worked so well.
[12:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Those who don't learn from history... - 06Predatory Bacteria could be a New Weapon Against Superbugs - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:45:20] <exec> 08└─Don't worry, the gorillas will freeze to death.
[12:45:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Phage Viruses - 06Predatory Bacteria could be a New Weapon Against Superbugs - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:22] <exec> 08└─I'd think you'd try looking at phage therapy first before using predatory bacteria. If phages are already a hard sell to the FDA then predatory bacteria will be even harder.
[12:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kilo110 [2853] (Score:2) 02Net neutrality? - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:35] <exec> 08└─Does anyone know Thiels stance towards net neutrality?
[12:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not a Fan - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:45:36] <exec> 08└─He's not a fan. [venturebeat.com]
[12:45:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Re:Not a Fan - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 723 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:45:38] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure that's a fair statement. Here's the full quote from the article from the link, and it is pretty nuanced: “We’ve had these debates about net neutrality for over 15 years. It hasn’t been necessary so far, and I’m not sure anything has changed to make it necessary right now. And I...
[12:46:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Intelligence as a continuum? - 06Your Dog Remembers More Than You Might Think - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:07] <exec> 08└─Once, we thought we were the only tool-users - then came chimpanzees, otters and even crows. One by one, "uniquely human" attributes have fallen, but we still could pat ourselves on the back as being the only "self-aware" critters on the planet. Perhaps intellectual abilities are simply a spectrum,...
[12:47:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Safari Books Online - 06O'Reilly: Cyber Monday Sale; All 14,000 eBooks Discounted 50 Percent - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:47:30] <exec> 08└─I don't buy anywhere near that many books per year. And if you stop paying, everything goes poof!
[12:48:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:San Francisco? - 06Vancouver Considers Abandoning Parts of the Coast Because of Climate Change - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:48:32] <exec> 08└─The average sea level is rising by a few centimetres per century (actually, a bit faster than that), but the shapes of tides mean that the extremes vary by a lot more. Then you add in more energy in the atmosphere, you also get higher waves, so a few centimetres of average sea level can result in fa...
[12:48:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:4,000 households worth $7 billion - 06Vancouver Considers Abandoning Parts of the Coast Because of Climate Change - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:48:49] <exec> 08└─I think those insurance premiums are going to get higher each year until the insurance companies have made enough money that they can happily pay out and still make a lot of money. Of course, they won't pay out because the premiums will hit the point a few years before they'd need to pay out where r...
[12:49:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Go ahead and try! - 06FTC to Require Homeopathic Medicines Carry "Unscientific" Labeling - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:49:54] <exec> 08└─Sometimes the placebo effect fixes stupid better than science can. One big plus for Homeopathy, negative side effects are almost entirely in the user's head.
[12:50:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zipf [2400] (Score:1) 02Re:Overkill? - 06Walmart is Testing Out Using Blockchain to Track Food Through its Supply Chain - 1449 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:50:55] <exec> 08└─This. The conclusion is that block chain represents a distributed append only log that can be shared between its maintainers who could be legally independent entities. A consensus mechanism and many replications allow a block chain to work even with substantial confederate accounts, at the expense o...
[12:53:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02All major browsers dumb - try PM - 06Windows 10 Informs Chrome and Firefox Users That Edge is "Safer" - 784 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:53:05] <exec> 08└─I was gobsmacked to discover that Firefox left no mechanism available to the user to prevent sites from autoplaying media. The particular annoyance was on sites like youtube, where once the site was given permission to load scripts and media in ONE tab, every subsequent tab from the same site would...
[12:53:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Problem? Try Pale Moon - 06Windows 10 Informs Chrome and Firefox Users That Edge is "Safer" - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:53:11] <exec> 08└─Pale Moon [palemoon.org], a Firefox derivative, lets you override the diktats of web pages, like a good browser should. Set the following to 'false' using the "web page" about:config - "media.autoplay.enabled" and "media.autoplay.allowscripted".
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[13:45:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Judge paid off? - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 623 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:45:11] <exec> 08└─I'm sure we've all seen this sort of abuse: A top notch employee is enticed into a "promotion" - and his net take-home pay drops by 5, 10, even 15 percent. And, in exchange for a stupid title, he gets to work 60 to 80 hours per week. I work with a man who has chased after a title for the past 15 yea...
[13:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 933 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:45:12] <exec> 08└─The good: As always, the (supposed) intentions are pure: Pay people for the hours that they work. The bad: This law effectively restricts the freedom for people and employers to agree to an employment contract. Specifically, full-time employees earning less thatn $47476 must be paid hourly overtime...
[13:45:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:15] <exec> 08└─Meant to to add this: Funny how, in one breath, it's "flyover country". Then the elite wants something, and it's suddently "the American Heartland". /snark
[13:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02On what grounds? - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:45:17] <exec> 08└─Anyone know offhand what the grounds were for granting the injunction? I'm busy playing with site code today and don't have time to read pages and pages of legalese to find out "why". Either why the Obama administration thinks it can pencil whip laws into saying what they don't or why a judge thinks...
[13:45:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Z-A,z-a,01234 [5873] (Score:1) 02All overtime must be paid - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:45:19] <exec> 08└─Enough of this modern time slavery. Nobody is working "for fun". As long as somebody is telling / expecting of you to work after hours should be forced to pay for the privilege. There are enough "enlightened" countries where this is true and the Apocalypse hasn't happened yet.
[13:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02abandon ship laws - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:45:21] <exec> 08└─Why did Obama wait till now? wasn't overtime a problem before? Why is even possible for a president who knows his party will not have to deal with the consequences to still write laws?
[13:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Those who don't learn from history... - 06Predatory Bacteria could be a New Weapon Against Superbugs - 1941 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:33] <exec> 08└─At best, that would establish a new food chain hierarchy: Pathogenic bacteria draw their strength from utilizing host's tissue as their food, but predatory bacteria would have a lot less provisions on their side, unless they too become pathogenic. So, predatory species never completely eradicate the...
[13:45:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Phage Viruses - 06Predatory Bacteria could be a New Weapon Against Superbugs - 603 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:36] <exec> 08└─My understanding is that phage treatment tends to be a non specific blend of biologically diverse phages -- ie something that is against the philosophy of the FDA (take a single well researched checmical in exact known dose etc). My knowledge is a couple of years out of date, but from what I remembe...
[13:45:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Not a Fan - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:50] <exec> 08└─Its not nuanced. Its just the same old mindless faux-libertarian argument that if you give companies who have state-supported monopolies abuse their monopoly power it will all work out great in the end.
[13:47:07] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Re:If I was dictator - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 1244 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:47:07] <exec> 08└─Sorry - I can't accept "learning" as a reason to piss away billions of dollars. The contractor should have built the damned plane, THEN tried to sell it to the government. The whole F-35 thing is a case of the tail wagging the dog. And, the stupid dog masturbated to the entire deal. The Zumwalt? The...
[13:47:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:If I was dictator - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 1718 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:47:10] <exec> 08└─You stopped reading right there - that is YOUR failure. And, obviously, you stopped thinking as well. Like a lot of other people, you seem to believe that the ONLY way to do business, is the current, corrupt system that we have. In what other industry does the paying customer pay for R&D, developmen...
[13:47:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:If I was dictator - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:47:12] <exec> 08└─Sorry - I can't accept "learning" as a reason to piss away billions of dollars.
[13:47:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If I was dictator - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 405 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:47:18] <exec> 08└─And you would not even have pointed sticks, but a rock that keeps enemies away paid like it were made of diamond. If you cannot deliver on time and on budget YOU pay with your pocket, or go to jail. PEOPLE WILL LIKELY DIE FOR YOUR MISTAKES. If you get kickbacks, you should be sent to remove mines wi...
[13:47:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Engineering? - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 708 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:47:35] <exec> 08└─Not much detail on what happened. "the crew spotted water leaking from two of the four bearings that link the destroyer's advanced electric engines to its propeller drive shafts. Both engines locked up shortly afterwards," With mechanical and electrical things near the ocean, stuff happens. But this...
[13:53:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Make it go away - 06Windows 10 Informs Chrome and Firefox Users That Edge is "Safer" - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:53:43] <exec> 08└─Are you for real?
[13:53:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Methods for staying safe - 06Windows 10 Informs Chrome and Firefox Users That Edge is "Safer" - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:53:54] <exec> 08└─Halp. How I abort HIV/AIDS and herpes? Sincerely, Itchy in Califormia
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[14:45:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Judge paid off? - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 625 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:17] <exec> 08└─You hit the nail on the head. Da judge was paid off to bow to corporate greed. I was suckered into the managers salary twice, but my job didn't change except for more hours per day and more days per week. I finally refused to advance into management in my last job (retired now) and instead got paid...
[14:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 777 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:21] <exec> 08└─To me, this isn't about more or less pay, this is about shaping employer behaviors. If the extra money is so hurtful to the employer, then cut the base pay back so that the take home is the same. The law isn't dictating that contracts can't be renegotiated, quite the opposite. Overall, I'd rather ha...
[14:45:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:23] <exec> 08└─Higher labor costs mean higher prices, lost jobs, or even a bankrupt business.
[14:45:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:25] <exec> 08└─Someone you want to groom for more responsibility, and who is probably proud of it, is suddenly back to punching a time-clock.
[14:45:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:27] <exec> 08└─Guess what, money doesn't magically come out of a spigot. Lots of SMEs in "in the American Heartland" are operating on tight budgets. Higher labor costs mean higher prices, lost jobs, or even a bankrupt business.
[14:45:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02Re:On what grounds? - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:30] <exec> 08└─tl;dr: Congress intended the exemption to apply to executive, administrative, and professional employees. The Final Rule gives undue weight to salary over actual duties of a position. Having to spend money on reviewing the need for pay raises and then actually implementing said raises would require...
[14:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:On what grounds? - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:32] <exec> 08└─Basically, the court found that the statute does not expressly indicate that the DOL can establish a minimum salary for overtime exemption and that instead this exemption must be based on the employee's role. If the ruling were upheld, it would seem to indicate that not only is the new salary level...
[14:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:On what grounds? - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:35] <exec> 08└─It's amazing how many articles expressing outrage I had to skim through before I could find something that actually mentioned the reason for the injunction. It probably would have been quicker to just wade through the legalese directly. *sigh* And the press doesn't understand why they're so untruste...
[14:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:On what grounds? - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 1518 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:37] <exec> 08└─If the existing minimum salary was inappropriate, does that mean there is effectively no minimum salary now? Not that it matters since $23,000 is close enough to the minimum wage (lower now in some parts of the country) that that number is irrelevant. If what you say is true, then this is just yet a...
[14:45:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:On what grounds? - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 957 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:39] <exec> 08└─So.. a company ordering its employee to operate heavy machinery for 70 hours per week is OK, because it would be beyond the powers of the government to set criteria to say: "for that job description, more than 40 hours means overtime"? I mean, if the government can't force companies to hire more peo...
[14:45:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:On what grounds? - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:41] <exec> 08└─> I'm busy playing with site code today and don't have time to read You working hard, putting in lots of unpaid overtime? ;)
[14:45:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Re:All overtime must be paid - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 999 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:44] <exec> 08└─I used to have a job where I had to account for every hour, and at least 60% of those had to be billable. Horrible. Where I am now, I have a job to do. SAP has some hours in it, but they're a joke to keep the accountants happy. I worked piles of extra hours September through last week. Now the crunc...
[14:45:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:All overtime must be paid - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 882 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:47] <exec> 08└─I actually enjoy not needing to justify every hour I work to my employer, but then again my arrangement is on the friendlier side of straight up abusive. I make it a point to get my life back elsewhere if I work a 60+ hour week. That just means that it's a few weeks of coming in an hour later and ta...
[14:45:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:abandon ship laws - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:50] <exec> 08└─All elected officials are lame ducks, due to be booted within a few years - that's why there is a term of office, you serve in that office throughout your term. The world doesn't stop because an election happened.
[14:45:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:abandon ship laws - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:52] <exec> 08└─https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-lame-duck-presidents/2014/11/28/355408be-70fe-11e4-8808-afaa1e3a33ef_story.html [washingtonpost.com]
[14:46:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Silicon Valley doesn't do tech anymore - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 616 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:13] <exec> 08└─They have a smoke screen up of dumb DB idea of the month (remember the noSQL fad some years ago) and the javascript framework of the week. Big data, data warehouse, data whorehouse, data whatever. If you're old enough you remember object oriented programming was the silver bullet of software reuse a...
[14:46:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:1) 02Re:Silicon Valley doesn't do tech anymore - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:14] <exec> 08└─"The real world, of course, the one that makes actual money, runs on barely understood Perl scripts connected to mysql, and legacy COBOL code." What are things that work?
[14:46:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not a Fan - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:24] <exec> 08└─'member Prodigy? Oh yeah, I 'member! 'member AOL? OOOOOHHH YEAAH, I 'member AOL!
[14:46:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:These notes have value? - 06Zimbabwe to Start Circulating New Bond Notes on Monday - 492 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:34] <exec> 08└─This is the big problem. If there were political leaders instead of puppets, cash shortage would not be a problem. You emit bonds, and you mandate them to be used to pay taxes, maybe even overvaluing them. Voila' you created money. You also created inflation? hm I am not sure inflation is what they...
[14:46:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:1) 02Re:These notes have value? - 06Zimbabwe to Start Circulating New Bond Notes on Monday - 1071 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:36] <exec> 08└─"This is the big problem. If there were political leaders instead of puppets, cash shortage would not be a problem. You emit bonds, and you mandate them to be used to pay taxes, maybe even overvaluing them. Voila' you created money. You also created inflation? " You've created no value. What you've...
[14:47:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03number6 [1831] (Score:2) 02This Linux visualization is interesting ... - 06Every Unix Commit from 1970 to Now() as a Pretty Video - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:47:14] <exec> 08└─Linux Kernel Development 1991-2015 (Gource visualization) [youtube.com]  --  <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iFnzr73XXk&t=0s>   It's just Linus' name alone flying around this growing tree structure for 2 minutes, then suddenly in Feb 2002 dozens of other people pop out of nowhere all at once li...
[14:47:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:If I was dictator - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 540 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:52] <exec> 08└─Good enough points, except, all the military/industrial money seems to be independent of money spent on the troops, or for humanitarian purposes. It also seems to be separate from routine military expenditures. That is, there will be plenty of small arms and cannon ammo, no matter how much might be...
[14:47:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:If I was dictator - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 835 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:54] <exec> 08└─I donno about that, there's a big DOD budget that all comes out of and every R+D program I'm aware of has always operated starved for cash, such that they could move faster if they had more $$$. I've never heard of a medium to long term R+D program that had more money than they knew what to do with...
[14:47:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:If I was dictator - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:48:00] <exec> 08└─things like the F35 and the Zumwalt are how the military learns what works and what doesn't.
[14:48:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Sort of old idea - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:48:18] <exec> 08└─advanced electric engines
[14:48:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score:2) 02Re:No difference - 06Aloe Vera... Sans Aloe Vera - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:48:57] <exec> 08└─Every time there is a change to the product, it becomes less effective and the price goes up.
[14:49:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:San Francisco? - 06Vancouver Considers Abandoning Parts of the Coast Because of Climate Change - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:49:29] <exec> 08└─You can't stand it that people who live in a liberal state make more money than you and don't have to live in a place with a terrible climate
[14:49:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:San Francisco? - 06Vancouver Considers Abandoning Parts of the Coast Because of Climate Change - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:49:37] <exec> 08└─At the risk of bringing different facts to the debate... https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] Lots and lots of facts and figures, with the advantage of having not...
[14:49:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:San Francisco? - 06Vancouver Considers Abandoning Parts of the Coast Because of Climate Change - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:49:40] <exec> 08└─Of course they vary. And the global tidal bulge can cause variations of several feet. But this is nothing new or extreme, and has damn little to do with global warming (which in any event, is ... well, read Dr.Roy Spencer's book.)
[14:50:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:it's not like - 06US Navy Sailors' Data Breached - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:50:36] <exec> 08└─Can you please drink yourself to death already to stop wasting valuable air?
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[15:45:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02robot - 06Nanoparticle Coating Could Detect Architectural Stress Before Damage Occurs - 351 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:15] <exec> 08└─You still need to program and build a robot to do the labor of looking at all that stuff, even if its easy to identify. In my infinite spare time I was thinking about using computer vision to do magna-flux Q+A. Its an interesting machine vision problem and non-trivial robotic problem. Of course its...
[15:45:28] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 78 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:28] <exec> 08└─Higher labor costs mean higher prices, lost jobs, or even a bankrupt business.
[15:45:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03BK [4868] 02Re:On what grounds? - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 398 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:34] <exec> 08└─Basically, the court found that the statute does not expressly indicate that the DOL can establish a minimum salary for overtime exemption and that instead this exemption must be based on the employee's role. If the ruling were upheld, it would seem to indicate that not only is the new salary level...
[15:45:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:abandon ship laws - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 488 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:45] <exec> 08└─That article is terrible. I don't thing the author even understands what a "lame duck" even is. The article starts off talking about FDR. FDR was never a lame duck: he died in office three months into his fourth term! A Lame Duck is a politician who's successor has already been elected but hasn't ta...
[15:45:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:abandon ship laws - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:46] <exec> 08└─Holy crap I just realized that article was published November 2014. Yea, the author definitely does not understand the concept of a lame duck.
[15:45:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Those who don't learn from history... - 06Predatory Bacteria could be a New Weapon Against Superbugs - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:58] <exec> 08└─If it doesn't work, doctors can always advise patients to drink hard liquor to kill the predator bacteria. Of course, some patients have already taken this course of action on their own.
[15:46:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Those who don't learn from history... - 06Predatory Bacteria could be a New Weapon Against Superbugs - 1026 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:46:00] <exec> 08└─That's a potentially serious problem with this approach. We as a species have had a rather poor track record of changing food chains to fit our whims. I'm not sure why we would expect to do better by introducing one at the microscopic level than removing ones at the macroscopic level. There's tons o...
[15:46:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Phage Viruses - 06Predatory Bacteria could be a New Weapon Against Superbugs - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:46:04] <exec> 08└─The trouble is phage viruses and to an even greater extent bacteria mutate as they grow. You might have infected one strain of bacteria or phage into somebody but some time later the patient is now colonised with a mutated strain that is different enough to be called a new strain.
[15:46:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I know an old lady who swallowed a fly - 06Predatory Bacteria could be a New Weapon Against Superbugs - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:06] <exec> 08└─I don't know why she swallowed a fly. I guess she'll die.
[15:46:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Cognitive Dissonance and Fake News - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:26] <exec> 08└─Thiel, a libertarian who was shunned by his tech industry peers for being a Trump supporter
[15:46:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cognitive Dissonance and Fake News - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:46:27] <exec> 08└─Examples of gay CEOs include David Geffen (movies) and Jann Wenner (Rolling Stone). Both came out long late in their careers, and both had a reputation of being brutal bosses. I suspect the same is true of Thiel.
[15:46:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Zimbabwe - 06Zimbabwe to Start Circulating New Bond Notes on Monday - 807 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:45] <exec> 08└─Zimbabwe fascinates me because, whereas I endorse multi-ethnic states, that country was better off ruled by the white minority. And by that I don't mean, "better for some," but better for whites and blacks there even if the blacks were disenfranchised. Rhodesia was the breadbasket of Southern Africa...
[15:47:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Amyloid plaques could still be a cause - 06Failure of Promising Alzheimer Drug Strikes a Blow to Theory - 2350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:39] <exec> 08└─Also note that removing a symptom does not mean the person is cured. I am hoping that the preventative trials, when the medication is given to people that are genetically predisposed to the disease are provided the drug, that it in some way helps prevent or slow down the eventual onset. In a way it...
[15:47:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Strikes A Blow To The Theory - 06Failure of Promising Alzheimer Drug Strikes a Blow to Theory - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:40] <exec> 08└─Strikes A Blow To The Theory? WTF? Who cares about theories and science. What this does is strike a blow to corporate profits for the drugs. Can't the FDA please just allow profitable drugs to market on the word of the manufacturer without the inconvenience of needing science behind the drug? Corpor...
[15:50:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03j-beda [6342] (Score:1) 02Re:4,000 households worth $7 billion - 06Vancouver Considers Abandoning Parts of the Coast Because of Climate Change - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:50:07] <exec> 08└─It's the other way round, C$1 is worth US$0.74 and US$1 is worth C$1.35.
[15:50:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Teaching cybersecurity? - 06Cyber College for Wannabe Codebreakers Planned at UK’s Iconic Bletchley Park - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:50:55] <exec> 08└─The line between data and executable is very fuzzy, imo. Even an image has to be parsed and rendered (and has been successfully exploited in the past). It's easy to point to something like JavaScript but what about html? Html is a series of instructions (executable) for how to display a page.
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[16:45:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Figures - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:08] <exec> 08└─Millennials are always slacking off on the job. No reason their tower should be any different.
[16:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Litigation? - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:10] <exec> 08└─> “They will lose in any court, I believe, if they fight this.” Ah, but what if the developers can force the apartment owners into binding arbitration to ensure that the developers will win, or at least only suffer a token penalty. Fighting for Truth, Justice and the Corporate way! What a fuster...
[16:45:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Douglas Adams lives? - 06Nanoparticle Coating Could Detect Architectural Stress Before Damage Occurs - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:19] <exec> 08└─I suppose he must still have his towel.
[16:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 594 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:32] <exec> 08└─I know what the cure for that problem would be, and I try to encourage others to do it: Stop flying! Seriously, if you travel cross-country on the ground, all of a sudden those small towns that you've never heard of become landmarks. You can see why somebody might like living in rural Kansas or Colo...
[16:45:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Re:On what grounds? - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:43] <exec> 08└─So.. a company ordering its employee to operate heavy machinery for 70 hours per week is OK
[16:45:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:On what grounds? - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:46] <exec> 08└─Hells no, I'm getting time and a half. No way do I work over 40 for straight time. Mind you it is time and a half of $0.00/hr but it's the principle of the thing.
[16:45:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:abandon ship laws - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 719 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:56] <exec> 08└─The term "lame duck" officially applies to a President after there's a President-elect in waiting, but it is frequently applied to any second-term President. After Dubya won in 2004, he was rather defensive at a news conference, telling reporters "don't count us out." BTW note how scandals seem to d...
[16:45:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02pititful - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 618 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:58] <exec> 08└─the whole point of a salary is that the employee gets guaranteed pay regardless of hours but has to do whatever it takes to do his/her job. This can be a good deal for the employee, if the money and the hours are right. If they are not, or if your employer changes the rules then quit or don't take t...
[16:46:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Silicon Valley doesn't do tech anymore - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:46:32] <exec> 08└─What are things that work?
[16:46:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:Cognitive Dissonance and Fake News - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 536 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:46:43] <exec> 08└─Part of the hatred he attracts is he's gay and the fake news sites (CNN, CBS, huffpo, buzzfeed, etc) are going insane with anti-trump fake news about how Trump is going to put all the gays in camps and ovens and all the usual stuff. That results in a massive cognitive dissonance headaches when gay f...
[16:47:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Zimbabwe - 06Zimbabwe to Start Circulating New Bond Notes on Monday - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:47:01] <exec> 08└─That's what happens when the monkeys run the zoo
[16:47:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I know - 06Your Dog Remembers More Than You Might Think - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:47:14] <exec> 08└─The problem with sucking your own dick is that the pleasure of having your dick sucked is juxtaposed with the displeasure of having a cock in your mouth.
[16:47:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:Intelligence as a continuum? - 06Your Dog Remembers More Than You Might Think - 457 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:47:20] <exec> 08└─oh, i will go even more than that: hu mans = responsible for approx 99.99% of the problems in the universe... dogs = responsible for approx .00001% of the problems in the universe... (AND a lot of those originate from stoopid hu mans: fido pooped on the rug because you didn't walk them) ALL the hu m...
[16:47:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Intelligence as a continuum? - 06Your Dog Remembers More Than You Might Think - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:47:22] <exec> 08└─hu mans = responsible for approx 99.99% of the problems in the universe...
[16:47:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't you mean Linux? - 06Every Unix Commit from 1970 to Now() as a Pretty Video - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:47:35] <exec> 08└─A friend of mine who had wintered-over in Antartica once told me "you don't want to meet a pissed-off Adélie".
[16:48:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Amyloid plaques could still be a cause - 06Failure of Promising Alzheimer Drug Strikes a Blow to Theory - 458 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:48:01] <exec> 08└─all these stupid hacks ever do is try to treat the symptoms and use people as Guinea pigs so they can learn in general. your disease is just a way for them to get to hack on you. the researchers just want to learn. the drug makers and the government want control over mankind. reproduction, intellige...
[16:48:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:Sort of old idea - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:48:49] <exec> 08└─useful info imparted, as per usual... thank you for your ongoing contributions, dont always agree, but you are almost always informative and evenhanded... thank you
[16:49:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score:2) 02Re:Safari Books Online - 06O'Reilly: Cyber Monday Sale; All 14,000 eBooks Discounted 50 Percent - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:49:05] <exec> 08└─$400 a year seems high
[16:49:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:Meh - 06Aloe Vera... Sans Aloe Vera - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:49:45] <exec> 08└─Hmm… not sure a sans variant of aloe vera [clubflyersmag.com] would look very good.
[16:50:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:San Francisco? - 06Vancouver Considers Abandoning Parts of the Coast Because of Climate Change - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:50:05] <exec> 08└─...I've lived here just about my entire life. I was born into a poor agricultural community, But Californians are retards...
[16:50:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02I'm not sure - 06Tools are Not Restricted to Great Apes and Hominids  - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:50:52] <exec> 08└─I mean, I've seen other species be kind of dickish, but I don't know if I would call them tools. I would certainly say the vast majority of tools are represented in the human race.
[16:52:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:My experience - it works, at least sometimes - 06FTC to Require Homeopathic Medicines Carry "Unscientific" Labeling - 561 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:52:09] <exec> 08└─My problem is lots and lots of "natural" stuff is now being labeled "homeopathic" when it has nothing to do with homeopathy, and then it ends up in the sights of do-gooders who want to pull it from the market. Since I became a father there's been at least two times that medicine we need for my babie...
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[17:45:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Litigation? - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:16] <exec> 08└─If these people bought without launching their own satelite based survey that's hardly the developer's fault. Caveat Emptor.
[17:45:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Thanks Trump for saving us from this! - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:17] <exec> 08└─Its a good thing the Honorable President Trump is going to make NASA point all the satellites away from Earth so we can stop hearing about stuff like this. If we don't know about it, it doesn't exist.
[17:45:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Re:Thanks Trump for saving us from this! - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:19] <exec> 08└─It's leaning to the right because Cali had more votes for Hellary.
[17:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:Thanks Trump for saving us from this! - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:21] <exec> 08└─Finally! The search for extraterrestrial life will commence in earnest!
[17:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Thanks Trump for saving us from this! - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:23] <exec> 08└─It's not just extraterrestrial life. It's all kinds of satellites. extraterrestrial weather. extraterrestrial communications networks for things like credit card authorizations at extraterrestrial fuel pumps. extraterrestrial live television. extraterrestrial long distance phone calls. (ET take note...
[17:45:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Great Start! - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:26] <exec> 08└─It's a great start, but what about the rest of the city? When will it sink into the ground?
[17:45:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Great Start! - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 451 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:28] <exec> 08└─Its semi-insightful in that during the next earthquake those 58 floors might simply tip over and land on other buildings. I mean, just because shoddy foundation piles snuck past inspection doesn't prove the rest of the building is not equally shoddily constructed. Note that it was completed somewhat...
[17:45:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02What a clusterfuck - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 502 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:30] <exec> 08└─It's all well and good to blame the excavation next door - and it probably is aggravating the situation. However, having skimmed the linked articles, it seems that the building was sinking faster than expected before that excavation began. Moreover, it is sitting on bayside silt, and is built with a...
[17:45:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Isn't this... - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:32] <exec> 08└─Isn't this the water-front tower of condo? If so, fuck the rich bastards, all of them. :)
[17:45:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Judge paid off? - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 696 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:51] <exec> 08└─Speaking of titles, one of the places I worked had title galore. By example in order of precedence, administrative assistant, secretarial assistant, secretary, administrator, department administrator, master secretary, division administrator, chief secretary, head of administration, corporate secret...
[17:45:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 1013 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:57] <exec> 08└─There's another pure fantasy that I think drives a lot of people's thinking: The idea that there isn't really enough to ensure that nobody is in poverty, and the life of poor and working class people is basically a life-or-death struggle to see who won't be impoverished. That idea is total nonsense:...
[17:46:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:46:01] <exec> 08└─To me it simply comes down to the overtime exemption being an unconstitutional exemption to the equal protection clause. Why should only some people be protected from being overworked and others not?
[17:46:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Silicon Valley doesn't do tech anymore - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 739 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:46:49] <exec> 08└─For a good laugh a post just appeared on HN for http://www.ycgiftideas.com [ycgiftideas.com] What a pile... gadgets and subscription services, a couple CRUD apps, that's about it. Boring! The epitome of "SV tech" in 2016 is apparently a monthly candle delivery service. I just received and tossed ou...
[17:47:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:1) 02Re:Cognitive Dissonance and Fake News - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:00] <exec> 08└─Obviously, Apple is a company not noteworthy enough to mention its CEO. So I won't mention it here.
[17:47:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Cognitive Dissonance and Fake News - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:03] <exec> 08└─based solely on whether they are part of some minority or not?
[17:47:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02Re:Cognitive Dissonance and Fake News - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 556 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:05] <exec> 08└─"You'd think that eventually if someones mental map doesn't cooperate well with observations of reality that they'd just cave in and operate under a new mental map" On this very site a die-hard anti-Trump lesbian told me to "take your [personal sexual assault experience] and shove it up your grandmo...
[17:47:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03n1 [993] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Zimbabwe - 06Zimbabwe to Start Circulating New Bond Notes on Monday - 2299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:23] <exec> 08└─Mugabe is a tyrant and a traitor to the people of Zimbabwe, i'm pretty sure of that. However, it really irritates me when people use the phrase "breadbasket of Africa", it's a rose-tinted view of history, a justification for colonial power and expansion... Every colonial power with a stake in Africa...
[17:47:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03fubari [4551] (Score:2) 02Re:Clever way to study intelligence! - 06Your Dog Remembers More Than You Might Think - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:39] <exec> 08└─I agree with what you say, I'm probably overstating the case with "closer". Anon wrote: IMHO having some form of episodic memory doesn't really qualify for a title like "Study shows Dog thinking closer to Apes and Humans".
[17:47:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03fubari [4551] (Score:2) 02Re:Intelligence as a continuum? - 06Your Dog Remembers More Than You Might Think - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:44] <exec> 08└─r.e. 99.99% of problems in the universe.... Maybe... is entropy a problem or a "feature" ? (Heat Death [wikipedia.org]) Then there's that Big Rip [wikipedia.org] thing.
[17:49:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:POS - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:49:08] <exec> 08└─As someone who has ridden a FF during a tropical storm, "able to navigate around or through storms about as well as other destroyers" is not the least bit reassuring. The tumblehome hull would appear to me to want to dive when confronted with something like a rogue wave. No one has mentioned the $80...
[17:49:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score:1) 02Re:Engineering? - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 1038 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:49:12] <exec> 08└─When journalists try to reduce a complex chain of failure full of technical jargon to a single "this is what broke" sentence, they almost always fail. There was a plane crash some years ago where both engines on an airliner died just before landing, and it crashed short of the runway. There was a...
[17:49:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Safari Books Online - 06O'Reilly: Cyber Monday Sale; All 14,000 eBooks Discounted 50 Percent - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:49:30] <exec> 08└─I'm OK with the cost because of everything it offers my business and my family. YMMV
[17:50:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:San Francisco? - 06Vancouver Considers Abandoning Parts of the Coast Because of Climate Change - 542 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:50:40] <exec> 08└─youtube? give me a break. im not watching a video. I'm not watching any of that...and the final one features arguments by "Lord Christopher Monckton" seriously... this guy: In July 2011 the House of Lords took the "unprecedented step" of publishing online a cease and desist letter to Monckton from...
[17:52:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:My experience - it works, at least sometimes - 06FTC to Require Homeopathic Medicines Carry "Unscientific" Labeling - 774 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:52:41] <exec> 08└─The only homeopathic med I know of recently pulled for infants was a teething remedy that contained very non-homeopathic levels of belladonna and was linked to over 400 hospitalizations and 10 deaths. You can be assured that anything that is actually homeopathic and that isn't a cure for thirst, doe...
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[18:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03messymerry [6369] (Score:1) 02Teste well and good... - 06After Scott Kelly's Flight, NASA Plans Five More One-Year Missions - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:10] <exec> 08└─These tests are all well and good, but it should be clear to everybody that we do not do well in micro-gravity. This is not a problem. We just set the spacecraft to spinning and create whatever level of gravity we need. This is a non-issue,,, ;-D
[18:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:Figures - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 1105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:20] <exec> 08└─Nah, what figures is that cheating, lying, covering up, and denialism is going on, just like with Global Warming. Pathetic that some of the residents are in denial that there are foundation problems, and are doing all they can to suppress fact finding and research. Perhaps they're anxious to sell th...
[18:45:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Figures - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:22] <exec> 08└─Leaning left, no doubt.
[18:45:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Thanks Trump for saving us from this! - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:30] <exec> 08└─It's ESA [esa.int], not NASA :-)
[18:45:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Thanks Trump for saving us from this! - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:32] <exec> 08└─See? Its already working!
[18:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What a clusterfuck - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:37] <exec> 08└─it is believed that the movements are connected to the supporting piles not firmly resting on bedrock. That would do it. Especially if the pile is not big enough. Sounds like someone found a way to speed up the project. By not digging another few hundred feet.
[18:45:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score:3, Informative) 02Little Italy, little Pisa - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:40] <exec> 08└─I knew they had little Italy there somewhere. I did not see little Pisa. Someone must have copied it. Maybe the owners can send in the DMCA gurus to get an infringement settlement if direct compensation fails ;-)
[18:46:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 212 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:08] <exec> 08└─Guess what, money doesn't magically come out of a spigot. Lots of SMEs in "in the American Heartland" are operating on tight budgets. Higher labor costs mean higher prices, lost jobs, or even a bankrupt business.
[18:46:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:11] <exec> 08└─If you are on salary, you are allowed to take a long lunch on occasion, without penalty. I think the theory is that they want to reward productivity, rather than just busywork. Don't really have a clue how it works in the real world though.
[18:46:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:pititful - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:31] <exec> 08└─Hi, as part of the human species, you are a member of a society. We work together and pool our resources. If you don't like it, get out. About 300 miles straight up then keep going.
[18:46:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02May the strongest bacteria remain - 06Predatory Bacteria could be a New Weapon Against Superbugs - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:46:49] <exec> 08└─This reminds me of the Asian folklore: "The traditional preparation of gu poison involved sealing several venomous creatures (e.g., centipede, snake, scorpion) inside a closed container, where they devoured one another and allegedly concentrated their toxins into a single survivor." https://en.wikip...
[18:46:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Silicon Valley doesn't do tech anymore - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 149 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:46:58] <exec> 08└─When are the "tech" billionaires going to admit that they aren't developing technology anymore, and all they do is advertising, marketing, and media.
[18:47:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03dingus [5224] (Score:2) 02Re:Nero didn't burn Rome - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:06] <exec> 08└─It's almost like it's a saying that's not supposed to be related to a particular fact, but instead is supposed to evoke particular feelings!
[18:47:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cognitive Dissonance and Fake News - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:19] <exec> 08└─As a straight White Man I don't find your experience - of which I have no details of - funny in the least. SJWs are sick people who drove me from the left simply by me observing their behavior, there is no cure for them.
[18:47:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Cognitive Dissonance and Fake News - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:20] <exec> 08└─The cure for them is the same as their counterparts/progenitors on the right: IGNORE THEM. Understand they're a mirror image of the "Children of the Sun" types; same pathology, opposite polarity.
[18:47:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:Cognitive Dissonance and Fake News - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:23] <exec> 08└─I'm still in the process of being gobsmacked by the revelation that there is a gay lifestyle [advocate.com]!
[18:47:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Cognitive Dissonance and Fake News - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:25] <exec> 08└─This is baffling to me too. How is who you love a culture or identity? Or is this mostly about gay men, not gay women?
[18:47:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cognitive Dissonance and Fake News - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:27] <exec> 08└─A gay friend told me that the main thing, once you realize you are gay, is: "To lisp, or not to lisp, THAT is the question!" Seemed, unlike the whole being gay thing, to be a matter of culture.
[18:47:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Zimbabwe - 06Zimbabwe to Start Circulating New Bond Notes on Monday - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:47] <exec> 08└─The legacy of colonialism is complex and fraught, I agree. There seems to be an emotional dynamo behind your response: However, it really irritates me when people use the phrase "breadbasket of Africa", it's a rose-tinted view of history, a justification for colonial power and expansion...
[18:48:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Actually UNIX - 06Every Unix Commit from 1970 to Now() as a Pretty Video - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:48:26] <exec> 08└─There is no natural evolution! There is only Scrum, Sprint, and Release Focus. (apologies, my boss is now a born-again Agilist, very enthusiastically doing it wrong)
[18:48:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Uncle_Al [1108] (Score:2) 02bees around a beehive - 06Every Unix Commit from 1970 to Now() as a Pretty Video - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:48:29] <exec> 08└─or flies around shit
[18:48:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Beat it like a bitch - 06Failure of Promising Alzheimer Drug Strikes a Blow to Theory - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:48:44] <exec> 08└─The best thing that can happen to most people who get involved (ie creative, inquisitive) is to get out of academic biomed research. It is all politics and gaming metrics at this point. Industry is better but moving the same direction since meeting FDA arbitrary metrics is more important than actual...
[18:51:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03quacking duck [1395] (Score:2) 02Re:Worthless report - 06Vancouver Considers Abandoning Parts of the Coast Because of Climate Change - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:51:14] <exec> 08└─In other words, politicians are almost exactly like short-term thinking business people, except instead of blindly focusing on turning a profit any way possible over the next 1/4 of a year, they're focused on the next 4-ish years.
[18:51:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02Wikipedia list - 06Tools are Not Restricted to Great Apes and Hominids  - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:51:46] <exec> 08└─Wikipedia has a list of Tool use in animals. My favourite is the octopus, who carries a shell to be used as a shelter later. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
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[19:45:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fuck Mozilla - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:16] <exec> 08└─ChromeFox coming to you in 2017!
[19:45:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:17] <exec> 08└─Seriously, Moz Corp is farther off the rails than the systemd problem in Linux land. Fork em. Time to find out if the users really crave a browser that is locked down and hostile to addons or whether they would prefer to keep using what they have now.
[19:45:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:19] <exec> 08└─Already done, and some of us have been using it for a while. -- posted from my Pale Moon [palemoon.org] browser
[19:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:21] <exec> 08└─Good idea, but.... $ sudo apt-get install palemoon Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package palemoon
[19:45:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Trekking wrong - 06After Scott Kelly's Flight, NASA Plans Five More One-Year Missions - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:31] <exec> 08└─No no no, it's supposed to be a five-year mission, not five one-year missions. Stop messing with future history.
[19:45:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:Figures - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:42] <exec> 08└─As usual, that would depend on your own position... ;-)
[19:45:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Figures - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:43] <exec> 08└─Relax, there's probably an app to fix it.
[19:45:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score:1) 02Re:Great Start! - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:54] <exec> 08└─Reminds me of the oil cans in concrete beams building failure in Taiwan earlier this year: https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org]
[19:45:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Great Start! - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:56] <exec> 08└─The waterfront building is sinking because there is less water near the foundation. Trump is a real estate developer, so he has a solution: Burn more coal, accelerate Global Warming and seas rise. You may have seawater in the lobby, but the foundation no longer sinks.
[19:46:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Little Italy, little Pisa - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:46:02] <exec> 08└─Considering Italy brought criminal charges against their scientists for not predicting an earthquake, I wouldn't put it past them to file DMCA infringement for copying the leaning tower of pizza.
[19:46:28] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 1013 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:46:28] <exec> 08└─There's another pure fantasy that I think drives a lot of people's thinking: The idea that there isn't really enough to ensure that nobody is in poverty, and the life of poor and working class people is basically a life-or-death struggle to see who won't be impoverished. That idea is total nonsense:...
[19:46:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03keick [719] (Score:1) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 3168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:46:29] <exec> 08└─I keep hearing folks like yourself beat this drum, and I did as well for a time. I've even put my own time and money into trying to help those in need in the some of the poorest counties in the Unites States (Areas around Boone, and Nada KY for example). After 4 years of spending a couple weeks a su...
[19:46:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:46:35] <exec> 08└─What's the constitutional reasoning here? Where does the Constitution give the federal government the power to do this?
[19:46:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"first left then right" - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:46:56] <exec> 08└─hey, i got a idea! let's declare a normal SALARIED work week is now 7 (seven) hours per week. so employers now only have to pay a SALARIED wage for 7 hours (per week) but can .. you know demand FREEEEEE OVERTIMMMEEE!
[19:47:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Phage Viruses - 06Predatory Bacteria could be a New Weapon Against Superbugs - 405 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:47:13] <exec> 08└─FWIW, viruses typically mutate at a much faster rate than bacteria. This is because their genetic system is essentially missing proofreaders. And that's because the replication isn't being done by their own mechanics, but rather by a subverted host. So the cost of a false replica is less, and they a...
[19:47:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:1) 02Re:Silicon Valley doesn't do tech anymore - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:47:30] <exec> 08└─Missed the jeopardy reference eh?
[19:47:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Silicon Valley doesn't do tech anymore - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 772 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:47:32] <exec> 08└─There is a label in Silicon Valley, or so some say, "The Paypal Mafia", alleged tech types who made big bucks with the first more or less successful "over the internet" financial model. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] Bitcoin seems to want to be the next such big monetiz...
[19:47:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nero didn't burn Rome - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:47:37] <exec> 08└─why is this informative? i read the link, it does nothing to refute the claim. in fact, the historian says the fire was deliberately started. he also says that when people tried to put out the fire, other people stopped them, saying that powerful people wanted the fire to burn.
[19:47:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] 02Re:Cognitive Dissonance and Fake News - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 536 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:47:48] <exec> 08└─Part of the hatred he attracts is he's gay and the fake news sites (CNN, CBS, huffpo, buzzfeed, etc) are going insane with anti-trump fake news about how Trump is going to put all the gays in camps and ovens and all the usual stuff. That results in a massive cognitive dissonance headaches when gay f...
[19:47:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Cognitive Dissonance and Fake News - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 520 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:47:51] <exec> 08└─No. FWIW I consider myself a minarchist, but most minarchists think I want too much government. I'm definitely NOT a Libertarian. But most progressives have many goals, and don't consider sexual orientation important. They *do* tend to defend minorities in a way that I consider excessive, but my rea...
[19:48:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03n1 [993] (Score:2) 02Re:Zimbabwe - 06Zimbabwe to Start Circulating New Bond Notes on Monday - 1527 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:18] <exec> 08└─Yeah, it was an emotional trigger because i've heard it so many times from older members of my family who use it to explain why we shouldn't have let the British empire slip away... "Look at Rhodesia, it used to be the breadbasket of Africa until...." and to clarify Zaire/Congo was the "jewel of afr...
[19:48:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Zimbabwe - 06Zimbabwe to Start Circulating New Bond Notes on Monday - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:20] <exec> 08└─Its interesting, my take on the British disposal of empire in the 50s/60s was that (with the exception of India) the Labour government exactly thought they were liberating the people from unjust government.
[19:48:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02guide to Zimbabwean currency - 06Zimbabwe to Start Circulating New Bond Notes on Monday - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:48:22] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_large_numbers [wikipedia.org]
[19:48:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I know - 06Your Dog Remembers More Than You Might Think - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:35] <exec> 08└─Unless you're into that sort of thing...
[19:48:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Clever way to study intelligence! - 06Your Dog Remembers More Than You Might Think - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:40] <exec> 08└─In the end the dogs are great, and their masters think they (the masters) are smarter for having taught their dogs how to be more human-like in their thinking. The dogs just want to turn everything into a party ... which does indeed make them more human-like.
[19:48:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Intelligence as a continuum? - 06Your Dog Remembers More Than You Might Think - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:47] <exec> 08└─hu mans = responsible for approx 99.99% of the problems in the universe...
[19:48:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03hubie [1068] (Score:2) 02Shoot - forgot to include link to article - 06Your Dog Remembers More Than You Might Think - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:48:49] <exec> 08└─Sorry, I forgot to include the link to the Science article where I pulled this from: http://www.sciencemag.org [sciencemag.org]
[19:49:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't you mean Linux? - 06Every Unix Commit from 1970 to Now() as a Pretty Video - 508 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:49:05] <exec> 08└─About your first gripe: It has been created by synthesizing with custom software 24 snapshots of systems developed at Bell Labs, the University of California at Berkeley, and the 386BSD team, two legacy repositories, and the modern repository of the open source FreeBSD system. In total, about one th...
[19:49:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Actually UNIX - 06Every Unix Commit from 1970 to Now() as a Pretty Video - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:49:10] <exec> 08└─Yeah, it's pretty cool. The first init system: https://github.com [github.com]
[19:49:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:If I was dictator - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 441 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:49:47] <exec> 08└─"Government shall take 0.5% ownership of the company for every 1% that the payments exceeds the project's budget". Tell me how much it's gonna cost, or be so afraid of your own estimate that you don't bid. Someone is always willing to bid, are you gonna miss out? Obviously, in most cases, the contra...
[19:50:22] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02Sort of old idea - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 25 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:50:22] <exec> 08└─advanced electric engines
[19:50:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Sort of old idea - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 928 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:50:25] <exec> 08└─I think their point is that they don't expect to get hit. The Battleships were like working trucks designed to take major abuse during visual range bombardment, but dish more than they took before finding a quiet place to bend the plates back the right way. This is a fancy sports car. It will lose m...
[19:51:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:No difference - 06Aloe Vera... Sans Aloe Vera - 612 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:51:05] <exec> 08└─The part that drives me nuts, is that companies which are lying and defrauding in the US, can use that unfairly gained cash to go buy or dump prices on other companies in well regulated markets. It's also true of the financial markets, where the higher taxation and state retirement systems in Europe...
[19:51:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:No difference - 06Aloe Vera... Sans Aloe Vera - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:51:08] <exec> 08└─Actually, making sugar is more complicated than just evaporating the juice. It takes work to get it to crystallize properly. This doesn't affect your basic point, but evaporated cane juice is probably easier to make...and perhaps less pure. After all, white sugar was originally invented as a health...
[19:51:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:No difference - 06Aloe Vera... Sans Aloe Vera - 442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:51:18] <exec> 08└─"Snake oil" is an interesting example. There's some evidence the the original snake oil was actually the oil of a specific kind of Chinese snake that really did have some curative or palliative properties. (I believe it reduced inflamation.) The "snake oil" sold by the travelling salesmen of the US...
[19:51:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:No difference - 06Aloe Vera... Sans Aloe Vera - 460 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:51:21] <exec> 08└─FWIW, Aloe Vera actually works, though I don't know about the ointments. I used to have an aloe plant that I'd occasionally use. You just cut off a piece of leaf and rub it on the abrasion. I think it's also oversold, but that's a different matter. And by the report the main active ingredient in the...
[19:52:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Worthless report - 06Vancouver Considers Abandoning Parts of the Coast Because of Climate Change - 93 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:52:02] <exec> 08└─Seriously, are we to expect a municipal government plans (or even cares) a decade in advance?
[19:52:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:4,000 households worth $7 billion - 06Vancouver Considers Abandoning Parts of the Coast Because of Climate Change - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:52:17] <exec> 08└─If Canadia is anything like America then insurance on the buildings, roads, infrastructure, etc will be mandated by law.
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[20:45:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:19] <exec> 08└─./configure && make && make install
[20:45:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Re:Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:21] <exec> 08└─More liek GayMoon amirite?!?!?
[20:45:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:23] <exec> 08└─The relmirror2.palemoon.org page isn’t working   relmirror2.palemoon.org didn’t send any data.   ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE
[20:45:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''Pale Moon'' - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 474 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:25] <exec> 08└─Yes. (The story was shortened a bit for the front page.) The Original Submission [soylentnews.org] and the comments at gHacks both mention this alternative and that, with a move toward increased extension incompatibility, you'd be no worse off going this route. I'm wondering if there will be a serio...
[20:45:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:27] <exec> 08└─It's what happens when you permanently shift all of your resources as an organization from "software development" to "social justice".
[20:45:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:29] <exec> 08└─Aww poor whitey. *crocodile tears*
[20:45:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03iamjacksusername [1479] (Score:2) 02Re:Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 613 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:32] <exec> 08└─They have been off the rails for a while. The rapid-release cycle was just the icing on the cake. They are tanking everything that made FF as good as it was. I think the symptoms first started around Firefox 2. That seems to be when they started mindless screwing with the UI. Remember the "Awesome B...
[20:45:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ken_g6 [3706] (Score:2) 02Who needs it? - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:34] <exec> 08└─What does Classic Theme Restorer do that simply restoring the Menu Bar doesn't? At least on Linux; I'm not sure I've tried it on Windows. Sure, the control box is still there, but with the menu bar on top you can safely ignore that stupid box.
[20:45:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Who needs it? - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 2348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:36] <exec> 08└─Main features (on CTRs preferences window) Tab appearance: squared tabs (classic) Tab appearance: curved tabs (all colored and visible) Tabs not on top + [tabsontop="false/true"] attribute Tab width and height settings Tab title in Firefox titlebar Tab loading animations Tab close button on all tabs...
[20:45:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03ticho [89] (Score:2) 02Re:Who needs it? - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:38] <exec> 08└─It basically makes the Firefox out of the Chrome-wannabe mess again, at least a little bit. But come on, with all those stupid changes that went into Firefox in past few years, we all knew this fling with Classic Theme Restorer was only temporary.
[20:45:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03iamjacksusername [1479] (Score:2) 02Still no working MSI - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 961 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:40] <exec> 08└─The original bug to create a MSI was opened in 2004. It was created because we should not need to depend on the goodwill of the folks at Frontmotion indefinitely Here are 10 things that happened since Mozilla starting "working" on this bug 1) Duke Nukem Forever was released 2) Turkey and Armenia, af...
[20:46:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't this... - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:17] <exec> 08└─No, this is considerably in from the waterfront, and, if I've got the correct building, is build right beside the main freeway leading to the Bay Bridge. Whee! Whenever I've gone past it it has looked as if it were already falling. Guess that wasn't entirely a visual illusion.
[20:46:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Little Italy, little Pisa - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:20] <exec> 08└─I wouldn't put it past them to file DMCA infringement for copying the leaning tower of pizza.
[20:46:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Little Italy, little Pisa - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:22] <exec> 08└─Came here with the same idea. Change the name of the building to Pisa-West, set the area up as a tourist trap and it's all good... Keep monitoring and when necessary inject suitable material under the slab to control the lean to a manageable amount. The engineers that monitor the original leaning to...
[20:46:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What sinks may also rise - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:25] <exec> 08└─If this especially heavy building pushes the ground down, does this mean it is raising other buildings surrounding it? If so, then the adjacent property owners may have a claim against these builders as well.
[20:46:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Division - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 531 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:27] <exec> 08└─I guess this site is going downhill, all articles with a decent comment volume seem to devolve into us vs. them bullshit. I've been disengaging more and more as it has become clear that there is a certain segment of the user base that brigades every article. This no doubt causes some glee for the mo...
[20:46:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Division - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 784 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:29] <exec> 08└─This is offtopic. I was going to mod you as such. However, I am going to agree also. My visits here are shorter and shorter. Today is the first time I have been here in 3 days. Not much had changed either. My visits to the green site are also becoming shorter and shorter. The only reason I do not h...
[20:46:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Division - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 408 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:31] <exec> 08└─I was going to have the subject be "Offtopic" but forgot to change it. Arguments over politics are fine, hopefully people can avoid the simple ad hominem stuff. My big gripe is that political opinions are leaking into nearly every story, opinionated garbage (ad hominem type stuff) gets modded insigh...
[20:46:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02The obvious question - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:58] <exec> 08└─The fair free market minimum wage without massive government intervention in "them programs" is probably about $15/hr
[20:46:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:The obvious question - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:59] <exec> 08└─Then why aren't those companies already paying $15 per hour?
[20:47:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 732 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:47:03] <exec> 08└─Sounds like you're describing the "broken window fallacy." Liberals don't think, they feel. That's how we get so much irrationality. The market will pay you what your labor is worth. If you don't like where you're working, you're free to go somewhere else. If no one else will pay you what you're mak...
[20:47:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:47:07] <exec> 08└─Why should only some people be protected from being overworked and others not?
[20:47:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:pititful - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:47:29] <exec> 08└─'If you don't like it, get out!' is never a valid response to someone who wants to see change because it could be applied to literally anyone. Respond to their actual arguments and positions instead.
[20:47:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:pititful - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 814 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:47:31] <exec> 08└─I'll take this one to extremes for you: When government allows corporations to do whatever they want you quickly end up with dystopian crap like sweatshops, company towns where workers can never afford to leave, environmental pollution, etc. Eventually you wind up back at slavery, which is basically...
[20:48:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Silicon Valley doesn't do tech anymore - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:48:05] <exec> 08└─Real Programmers(TM) know that shell scripting is the silver bullet of software reuse :-)
[20:48:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:Cognitive Dissonance and Fake News - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:48:25] <exec> 08└─"Do you really believe that "SJW types" are so simplistic that they place all their like / dislike in someone based solely on whether they are part of some minority or not? If so, I think you need to get out more and meet some actual people. " From what I've seen, that's exactly what they do. Maybe...
[20:51:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:''JavaScript required'' - 06O'Reilly: Cyber Monday Sale; All 14,000 eBooks Discounted 50 Percent - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:51:18] <exec> 08└─The page is readable for me, with CSS disabled. Thanks for posting the "story."
[20:51:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] 02Re:No difference - 06Aloe Vera... Sans Aloe Vera - 138 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:51:40] <exec> 08└─In this case it sounds like they weren't even required to list the ingredients, so they happily lied about it and increased their profits.
[20:51:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcross [4009] (Score:2) 02Re:Great business idea - 06Aloe Vera... Sans Aloe Vera - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:51:56] <exec> 08└─Corporations have teeth but the teeth cost money. Also they tend to have money. The best strategy would be to get them to settle to avoid a lawsuit and/or a public disclosure of their fraud. Think patent troll rather than copyright enforcement.
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[21:45:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02MATLAB - 06Researchers Develop New Parallel Computing Method - 552 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:05] <exec> 08└─While I pray every day for MATLAB to die a quick horrible death, the Julia people discredit themeselves by continuing to promote disingenuous 10 squillion-fold speed up gains. If you code the wrong way then you can get disastrous performance in any language. No need for those for-loop shennanigans a...
[21:45:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Typo or something - 06Researchers Develop New Parallel Computing Method - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:06] <exec> 08└─I read the original paper, its kinda interesting. This major improvement leverages 8,192 Intel Xeon processors
[21:45:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Typo or something - 06Researchers Develop New Parallel Computing Method - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:45:08] <exec> 08└─Don't sweat the details, feel the buzz.
[21:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not a "New Parallel Computing Method". - 06Researchers Develop New Parallel Computing Method - 729 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:11] <exec> 08└─This is not some breakthrough in parallel computing. Its a breakthrough in parallelizing some a particular statistical problem: they made a "fast numerical optimization routine for Bayesian posterior inference and a statistically efficient scheme for decomposing astronomical optimization problems in...
[21:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not a "New Parallel Computing Method". - 06Researchers Develop New Parallel Computing Method - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:45:13] <exec> 08└─Yeah, it looks like the article could be summarized as "Another scientific problem found to be embarrassingly parallelizable, and ported to '90s Beowulf cluster computing framework".
[21:45:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02"new method" - 06Researchers Develop New Parallel Computing Method - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:15] <exec> 08└─New method, or optimizing poorly written software?
[21:45:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Celestial [4891] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Fuck Mozilla - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:45:25] <exec> 08└─I believe you mean "came to you on April 29, 2014."
[21:45:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02We can only hope. - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 602 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:45:34] <exec> 08└─I don't use it all the time, but I have palemoon installed and waiting for when mozilla finishes its 'stupid' migration. The biggest problem holding me back right now is lack of a tor browser extension for palemoon to help ensure it isn't leaking anything. Although given the changes in Firefox latel...
[21:45:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:45:36] <exec> 08└─What if I run a Mac? I wouldn't mind compiling Pale Moon.
[21:45:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:45:38] <exec> 08└─Pale Moon doesn't natively support Linux. No, a third-party port is not the same; it doubles the risk of losing support: Only if both the provider of the original browser and the provider of the port continue to provide updates, support will continue.
[21:45:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:45:40] <exec> 08└─Maybe try Vivaldi [vivaldi.com]? Not sure it will fix UI woes, but it certainly fixed my non-configurability woes. Supports Chrome extensions, too.
[21:45:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:45:43] <exec> 08└─Closed source browser? You best be joking...
[21:45:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Still no working MSI - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:45:52] <exec> 08└─What's an MSI? Googling it just brings up a motherboard manufacturer. Maybe this is why it's not been implemented???
[21:45:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02ZZZzzz ... - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:54] <exec> 08└─Firefox news stories are about as relevant as those regarding Zimbabwe's currency.
[21:46:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Division - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:46:39] <exec> 08└─I guess this site is going downhill, all articles with a decent comment volume seem to devolve into us vs. them bullshit.
[21:46:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Division - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:46:41] <exec> 08└─I agree with your post, and the divide sneaks up on us: Nothing in the last 3 weeks has given Democrats and Progressives, and all good people basically
[21:46:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Division - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:46:43] <exec> 08└─this site will just become another echo chamber.
[21:46:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Stress Coat - 06Nanoparticle Coating Could Detect Architectural Stress Before Damage Occurs - 774 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:53] <exec> 08└─Stress Coat used with polarized light has been around for a long time. Google found a fairly recent patent in the general area,     https://www.google.com [google.com] Before that, brittle lacquer was commonly used and there is still at least one supplier for similar coating,  ...
[21:47:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:47:07] <exec> 08└─I can practically see Kansas from my golden tower in NYC.
[21:47:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:The obvious question - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:47:14] <exec> 08└─The government will take my money at the point of a gun to pay for Walmarts employees, so Walmart can make more money.
[21:47:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:47:20] <exec> 08└─Do you really mean "price fixing", or do you mean "minumum wage", or do you mean something else?
[21:47:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:47:25] <exec> 08└─Why is it any government's job to protect you from overwork?
[21:47:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:47:27] <exec> 08└─Because protecting people is the government's job.
[21:47:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Hey... - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:47:37] <exec> 08└─That heavy machinery usually has air conditioning, a nice comfortable seat, and maybe somewhere to rest your paperwork. It sounds like a desk job to me! Maybe they can provide a new job title for it, like 'Heavy Lifting Manager' and start paying them salaried at a fraction of their normal hourly cos...
[21:49:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:keeping the money at home - 06Zimbabwe to Start Circulating New Bond Notes on Monday - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:49:03] <exec> 08└─With a legally binding rate, you might as well just use actual dollars (or pounds or what ever). It will travel better. But that's the point of many of these pegged currency: precisely to make sure they DON'T travel.
[21:49:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Entropy [4228] (Score:2) 02Re:I don't understand - 06Zimbabwe to Start Circulating New Bond Notes on Monday - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:49:09] <exec> 08└─So in short--They can't manage themselves, and really need someone to do it for them.
[21:49:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't you mean Linux? - 06Every Unix Commit from 1970 to Now() as a Pretty Video - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:49:55] <exec> 08└─What's she so pissed off about? Didn't she win, like, a bunch of Grammys or something?
[21:50:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:If I was dictator - 06More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:50:47] <exec> 08└─In what other industry does the paying customer pay for R&D, development, experimentation, both successes and failures, and guarantee a cost-plus profit?
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[22:44:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Spam) 02HTTPS LOL - 06Quantum Physics Offers New Way to Factor Numbers - 2 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:58] <exec> 08└─ 
[22:44:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score:2) 02Applications are many - 06Quantum Physics Offers New Way to Factor Numbers - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:59] <exec> 08└─If the factoring problem can be solved this way, then there may be a new avenue open to NP vs P. That can result in a real problem for our current encryption tech. On the other hand, solving some graph theory problem in P time would be cool too.
[22:45:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not ready for prime time - 06Quantum Physics Offers New Way to Factor Numbers - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:45:02] <exec> 08└─I call bullshit on this... something that hasn't been invented could be used by something that hasn't been invented to break something that works. Call me when they've turned it into something I can fund on Kickstarter.
[22:45:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Not a "New Parallel Computing Method". - 06Researchers Develop New Parallel Computing Method - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:45:13] <exec> 08└─Can you rephrase that using the standard newspaper unit, i.e. give us PS3-equivalent numbers?
[22:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03claywar [3069] (Score:1) 02Just imagine... - 06Researchers Develop New Parallel Computing Method - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:45:16] <exec> 08└─Just imagine a Beowu... oh, just nevermind.
[22:45:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:45:42] <exec> 08└─The Awesome Bar is now standard in browsers. For all their faults, it wasn't a mistake.
[22:45:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Still no working MSI - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:45:48] <exec> 08└─.MSI == MicroSoft Installer.
[22:45:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:1) 02Re:Still no working MSI - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:45:50] <exec> 08└─"What's an MSI?" Essentially a windows package format.
[22:45:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:4, Informative) 02Covering the reaction and not the news - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 1183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:45:53] <exec> 08└─Neither the submitter nor the editors appear to consider the actual announcement from Mozilla relevant. Since I do, here's a link to it: https://blog.mozilla.org [mozilla.org] I have no doubt that this move will complicate SOME extensions. However, only posting the...
[22:46:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Figures - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:12] <exec> 08└─there's the infamous 1928 St. Francis Dam disaster in California, in which the dam had developed new cracks and leaks over a 2 year period, and each time was inspected and declared safe, with the final inspection done by the top official the day before the catastrophic failure.
[22:46:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Figures - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 924 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:17] <exec> 08└─Sweet, TMB ruining shit again. I really appreciate the freedom of speech focus on this site, and I will never advocate censorship, but I will repeatedly ask that you and other such users stop degrading the quality of discussions here. As one of the founders / maintainers I would think you would have...
[22:46:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't this... - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:34] <exec> 08└─No, this is considerably in from the waterfront,
[22:46:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Division - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:44] <exec> 08└─This is offtopic. I was going to mod you as such.
[22:46:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03edIII [791] 02Re:Division - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 121 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:45] <exec> 08└─I guess this site is going downhill, all articles with a decent comment volume seem to devolve into us vs. them bullshit.
[22:46:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Division - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 1882 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:50] <exec> 08└─I've made comments about most police being OK, along with many other liberal-ish users around here and have never been attacked for it. The problem is that we have to address actual problems, not hide or avoid them. When you have a contrary opinion you have to be careful not to ignore valid points....
[22:46:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasperhw [3359] (Score:1) 02Re:Division - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 445 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:52] <exec> 08└─This * 1,000,000. If it's not overly politicized comments that have little or nothing to do with the story, it's dumb millennial bashing (I'm not one) that seemingly derails the discussion on every story. I had massive hopes for this site when it launched, and IMO, the community has become more repe...
[22:46:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Division - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 938 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:54] <exec> 08└─I think that is an effect from how the site was founded. People were search of a place where they could talk freely, and the most unhappy users were the ones with unpopular opinions. The independent do-it-yourself attitude is often accompanied by a lack of compassion and understanding for folks who...
[22:46:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:Division - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 539 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:56] <exec> 08└─I suspect much of the problem is down to a single poster, who spews vile vitriol. I suspect that this poster is destroying Soylent News through his frequent rants, which can only serve to put off other posters. I think that this poster's moderation history should be investigated, since his posts are...
[22:47:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:22] <exec> 08└─Take a page from Walkin' Lawton https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[22:47:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 624 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:28] <exec> 08└─So what exactly is your point? Are you suggesting that 80% of humanity should just roll over and die already? Or that who is a real contributor and who isn't can and should be determined by what sort of person your dad was? I agree there are some lazy people and moochers out there. I know several my...
[22:47:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Costco pays better than poverty wages - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 792 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:33] <exec> 08└─I recently read that Costco pays an average wage of $22. I Googled that number to try to find that cite again and I got an even better page. [glassdoor.com] The lowest-paid worker at Costco is paid $11/hr to start, with an average of $12.43/hr for that position. ...yet Costco remains in business and...
[22:48:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:abandon ship laws - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:48:02] <exec> 08└─> I think historians will marvel at how good he was at the finer aspects of the job. I suspect he will remembered for a few showboating remarks in his 2nd term and also for being satisfied to concede defeat "honorably" when given the opportunity. Always happy to explain to his supporters why we can'...
[22:48:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Silicon Valley doesn't do tech anymore - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:48:39] <exec> 08└─I'll take "Doh!" for a thousand, Alex.
[22:49:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Identity is the basis of all politics - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:49:00] <exec> 08└─> Well identity politics is THE basis of Progressive politics, is it not? Identity is the basis of all politics. If you don't think non-progressive politics aren't all about identity, then you just can't see it because its the majoritarian identity and you are so immersed in it that you think its ju...
[22:49:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cognitive Dissonance and Fake News - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:49:01] <exec> 08└─We do not have many minorities on the Right but because of the extreme social pressure the ones who do break through the line and join tend to be the best and brightest.
[22:49:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:Cognitive Dissonance and Fake News - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 512 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:49:04] <exec> 08└─Well, I'm still not sure the "SJW" actually exists. As far as I can tell it's just another faddy label dreamed up by some right-wing website or thinktank somewhere that can be slapped onto anybody they disagree with, in lieu of having to actually present an argument. If I ever do meet a real one tho...
[22:49:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:I don't understand - 06Zimbabwe to Start Circulating New Bond Notes on Monday - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:49:29] <exec> 08└─They can't manage themselves as long as they haven't gotten rid of their corrupt government, that's for sure. Otherwise I don't know what you mean. I don't think the Zimbabweans fancy some kind of re-colonisation, if that's what you're thinking about :-) I don't know what Morgan Tsvangirai is doing,...
[22:52:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] 02Meh - 06Aloe Vera... Sans Aloe Vera - 27 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:52:38] <exec> 08└─Aloe Vera... Sans Aloe Vera
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[23:45:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02TL:DR - 06Flying Start for World's First Graphene-Enhanced Model Aircraft - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:02] <exec> 08└─In terms of impact resistance, the new wing is showing increased levels of impact resistance of up to 60% over a conventionally-skinned carbon fibre wing.
[23:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Not ready for prime time - 06Quantum Physics Offers New Way to Factor Numbers - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:12] <exec> 08└─I call bullshit on this... something that hasn't been invented could be used by something that hasn't been invented to break something that works.
[23:45:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Not ready for prime time - 06Quantum Physics Offers New Way to Factor Numbers - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:13] <exec> 08└─That can be explained by quantum mechanics too. Watch, I'll show how: 1. Accept that there is a full set of all possibilities for a given outcome to a situation. 2. (Magic) 3. You have the subset you were looking for! Easy! :-) Yeah, I don't get it either. I don't think I'm ready to be quite so dism...
[23:45:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:46] <exec> 08└─Palemoon for the Mac is called Newmoon IIRC and it's available as a .dmg
[23:45:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:51] <exec> 08└─Read their EULA carefully. Pretty sure Vivaldi phones home. If you have minimal requirements, you could check out Min [github.io].
[23:45:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fork em - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:53] <exec> 08└─I tried Pale Moon for a while, but then switched to SeaMonkey; the UI is alright, the memory usage seems a lot better (even after keeping it open for long periods of time), it supports many FF extensions, and it seems less bloated overall.
[23:46:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03iamjacksusername [1479] 02Still no working MSI - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 961 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:02] <exec> 08└─The original bug to create a MSI was opened in 2004. It was created because we should not need to depend on the goodwill of the folks at Frontmotion indefinitely Here are 10 things that happened since Mozilla starting "working" on this bug 1) Duke Nukem Forever was released 2) Turkey and Armenia, af...
[23:46:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Still no working MSI - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 585 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:46:07] <exec> 08└─In addition to the above answers: An MSI (microsoft installer) is the only package format supported by Microsoft's Active Directory for automated, unattended, remote installs which are commonly used in education and corporate environments. With an MSI you can install software without the user ever s...
[23:46:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Read the replies in that page you linked - 06With WebExtensions APIs Uncertain, Firefox's Classic Theme Restorer may be Dead Soon - 742 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:46:11] <exec> 08└─The (minor) news is that they stay with the plan, the one started a year or so ago (talking about webextensions, not the copycat path that has been going for longer) and they don't know if they will ever recover parity with previous state, which is what is causing more and more concerns ("growing ne...
[23:46:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Figures - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:46:34] <exec> 08└─Seriously. I came here for a technical discussion but the first post is a crappy jab at Millennials from buzzard. Really sets the mood when you have a few more twats join in.
[23:47:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Division - 06San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:47:08] <exec> 08└─Yup! I've wondered about that myself, the trend has been pretty visible recently. It could also simply be a brigade effect from the conservative base. The irony in using such tricks is pretty thick.
[23:47:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 682 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:47:44] <exec> 08└─What I don't see is how this legislation is forcing employers to pay a single dime more to employees - what it means is that overtime is going to cost them proportionally more than salary, for employees who make under forty-whatever-thousand a year. If the extra money hurts the business owner, cut t...
[23:47:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:The good, the bad, and the ugly - 06Federal Judge Blocks Obama's Overtime Pay Increase for Millions of Salaried Workers - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:47:56] <exec> 08└─The good: As always, the (supposed) intentions are pure: Pay people for the hours that they work.
[23:49:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not a Fan - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:49:06] <exec> 08└─So, "nuanced" for libertarian values of nuance? Reminds me of what Oswald Patton said about rightwingers and comedy. http://www.rawstory.com [rawstory.com] Don't do nuance, can't do funny.
[23:49:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cognitive Dissonance and Fake News - 06Silicon Valley "Brain Trust" to aid Trump.  - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:49:22] <exec> 08└─On this very site a die-hard anti-Trump lesbian told me to "take your [personal sexual assault experience] and shove it up your grandmother's ass."
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