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[00:44:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Celestial [4891] (Score:2) 02Oh Joy - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:44:54] <exec> 08└─This election just won't end, will it?
[00:44:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oh Joy - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:44:55] <exec> 08└─We already knew it wasn't going to end well . . .
[00:44:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oh Joy - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:44:57] <exec> 08└─This is good theater. Shakespeare himself couldn't write better. And supposing Trump is denied, there might be enough chaos to get some real election reform, or possibly plot twist and Sara Palin is elected president. Then everyone can be equally unhappy. And liberals will still blame fake news for...
[00:44:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Oh Joy - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:44:59] <exec> 08└─It already has. Short of holding another election using paper ballots, which the courts wouldn't allow, there's almost certainly no way to "recount" electronic votes that were tampered with (at least there wouldn't be if I'd done the tampering). Best you could do is void them and I don't see courts...
[00:45:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Electronic voting - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:02] <exec> 08└─Regardless of whether there was enough foul play to actually change the results of the election or not, electronic voting that relies on proprietary software or doesn't also have paper ballots is a bad idea. If you're going to have electronic voting, you must make sure to collect paper ballots as we...
[00:45:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02We must investigate tampering - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 419 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:04] <exec> 08└─If there was genuine election tampering, than that is a Federal crime that must be punished. All the mouthpieces on AM radio complain about voter fraud. Why don't they lend those same voices to ensure there was no election tampering? It is unlikely that what would be found would make a difference, b...
[00:45:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:We must investigate tampering - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:45:06] <exec> 08└─Why don't they lend those same voices to ensure there was no election tampering?
[00:45:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:We must investigate tampering - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:45:08] <exec> 08└─See above. Competent hackers wouldn't have left data enough to reconstruct valid results. All you could do is scrap entire precincts worth of results. This is precisely why many people on both sides despise electronic voting.
[00:45:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02nerds - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 412 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:10] <exec> 08└─Haha, computer nerds. You think your analytics are complete eh? Even I predicted a Clinton win leading to a full nuclear exchange in February 2025 (it will still happen). Due to the spread of a disease in 2018, the CDC will declare martial law and activate the FEMA concentration camps. Give it up, f...
[00:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:nerds - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:45:13] <exec> 08└─That's enough spiked eggnog for you...
[00:45:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Alternatively... - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:15] <exec> 08└─questionable trend of Clinton performing worse in counties that relied on electronic voting machines compared to paper ballots and optical scanners.
[00:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Alternatively... - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:45:17] <exec> 08└─Shhh! If the left were so demoralized to lose the election AND the popular vote, we might to install suicide nets outside of the Huffington Post.
[00:45:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 583 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:19] <exec> 08└─>>among them J. Alex Halderman, the director of the University of Michigan Center for Computer Security and Society I've seen this guy's name and title about 3 dozen times in the last 48 hours. I think it's the 3rd time on this site alone. They always write out his full extended title. Makes it soun...
[00:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score:2) 02Michigan - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:21] <exec> 08└─Michigan does not even have evoting machines.
[00:45:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilPapa [2366] (Score:2) 02Re:17 November 1966 - 06Adobe Voco 'Photoshop-for-Voice' Causes Concern - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:45:32] <exec> 08└─That's actually a true story. I know the guy it happened to. Friend of a friend.
[00:45:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Voice synthesizers - 06Adobe Voco 'Photoshop-for-Voice' Causes Concern - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:42] <exec> 08└─How do you think current general domain voice synthesizers are built? Did you hear any modern one lately? Best ones use concatenative synthesis, chopping samples or full words or even phrases and using DSP to stich the pieces. This is not much different.
[00:45:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Adobe tech - 06Adobe Voco 'Photoshop-for-Voice' Causes Concern - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:44] <exec> 08└─Adobe demo'd some amazing tech at their conference: https://blogs.adobe.com [adobe.com]
[00:48:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03BasilBrush [3994] (Score:2) 02Re:I guess I'm an outlier? - 06Your Impressions of "Average" iPhone and Android Users Are Confirmed - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:48:54] <exec> 08└─Usability is a small problem.
[00:55:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03tisI [5866] (Score:2) 02Re:Fight The Feds - 06Water Cannons Used in Sub-Freezing Temperatures at Dakota Access Oil Pipeline Protest - 1079 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:55:09] <exec> 08└─You're not even on point. These assholes are using, I'm assuming from TFA, local police as their own private security force. The same police force that is employed to protect and serve the public is being used to assault and fire on unarmed civilians that have a right to protect their property and l...
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[01:44:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Electronic voting - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:44:56] <exec> 08└─The software on the voting machine has no effect on your freedom.
[01:44:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''run 100% free software'' - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:44:58] <exec> 08└─This seems like a good spot to put this always-popular gem: Voting Machines [xkcd.com] . I disagree with using machines at any level in elections. If we ever get ranked voting, I may temper my position. N.B. This would still not include "voting machines". ...and I certainly disfavor any machine meth...
[01:45:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:nerds - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:05] <exec> 08└─Personally, I favor this Carpenter's prophetic work: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[01:45:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:nerds - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:07] <exec> 08└─Always preferred this take https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[01:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:Alternatively... - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:11] <exec> 08└─If the left were so demoralized to lose the election...
[01:45:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:14] <exec> 08└─He's written articles/made presentations about other country's electronic voting systems, so he's not a total schlub. And if he can draw enough ire about electronic voting systems so they are scraped, he will have done some good.
[01:45:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score:2) 02J. Alex Halderman - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 395 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:45:18] <exec> 08└─Halderman stated, in the article which started all this: "Were this year’s deviations from pre-election polls the results of a cyberattack? Probably not. I believe the most likely explanation is that the polls were systematically wrong, rather than that the election was hacked." The article is jus...
[01:45:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I'm with jill - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:45:20] <exec> 08└─How come the Green party is leading on disputing the results? Where Clitton at? The President-elect said he wouldn't accept a loss, why not Clitton?
[01:45:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:I'm with jill - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:22] <exec> 08└─Clinton would look like a spoiled child for trying to dispute now. So much like on election night, she needs somebody else to do it for her. Or did you really think the fucking Green Party raised more money during 3 days to dispute than they managed to earn during their entire Presidential campaign?
[01:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'm with jill - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:24] <exec> 08└─Possibly guilt tripping the Greens over the election results (god knows the left has blamed everyone else). Possibly the distaste of the Popular President Elect to directly challenge the results (she has minions to do that for her). These things require the appearance of grassroots support from "con...
[01:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:17 November 1966 - 06Adobe Voco 'Photoshop-for-Voice' Causes Concern - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:35] <exec> 08└─The dude was dating his own mom?
[01:45:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Rose Mary Woods... - 06Adobe Voco 'Photoshop-for-Voice' Causes Concern - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:45] <exec> 08└─She's dead, Jim.
[01:49:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:Witnesses - 06Standing Rock Protester May Lose Her Arm Because of Police Grenades - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:49:47] <exec> 08└─The concussion grenade is packed with enough to kill people who just happen to be nearby. The other is designed to be a bit less lethal.
[01:50:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Enders game was about children - 06Book Review: "Black Bead" - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:50:34] <exec> 08└─O won't judge a book by the age of its characters, like the GP, but I don't agree that because it's accessable to children it's a children's book. That makes it an "all ages" book.
[01:50:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:quote from bottom of page - 06Book Review: "Black Bead" - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:50:40] <exec> 08└─That quote sounds kind of like Stephen King's assertion that reading and writing are a form of mind reading (from his book "On Writing", too lazy to look up the exact quote).
[01:50:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:WorldCon or NASFiC next year? - 06Book Review: "Black Bead" - 394 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:50:43] <exec> 08└─I'd love to, but I can't afford that kind of travel expense. I have to say I can't remember when I had so much fun, though. Wish I could. Maybe some movie mogul will read "Mars Ho" and buy rights to it (ha! It would be rated NC-17, nobody would make a movie of it!). Maybe Pixar or somebody would wan...
[01:50:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Sorry I'm late... - 06Book Review: "Black Bead" - 468 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:50:46] <exec> 08└─I wrote Dylan and asked for permission to post the book on my site, and I obtained it. You can download the epub here. [mcgrewbooks.com] The link is for you guys, It isn't posted on my site. I just bought a paper copy from Amazon and will have it in HTML sitting next to Cory Doctorow's Down and Out...
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[02:44:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02wireless isn't trendy anymore - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:44:58] <exec> 08└─Unless there's a mobile phone attached. Speaking of, Verizon 4G LTE Wi-Fi router for $9.99 [bestbuy.com] Too cheap! Apple doesn't want to associate with common poor people.
[02:45:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Incorrect - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:00] <exec> 08└─Routers are access points that connect laptops, iPhones and other devices to the web without a cable. Wireless routers are access points that connect laptops, iPhones and other devices to the web without a cable. Routers are access points that connect devices in a network, with or without internet a...
[02:45:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Incorrect - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:45:02] <exec> 08└─Pedantic asshole is also incorrect. Without internet access or without Wi-fi, your network hubs don't do any routing and are not routers. At best they do switching, but repeating hubs don't even do switching. Fuck you.
[02:45:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Incorrect - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:45:04] <exec> 08└─I'm not even sure routers are really 'access points'. And I'm not sure i'd say they "connect devices in a network" either. Routers route packets between (logically, if not physically) separate networks. They connect networks together.
[02:45:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Apple doesn't make shit anymore - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:06] <exec> 08└─Apple is in the business of stamping Apple logos on things because everybody knows the Apple logo is a fucking status symbol and it's the fucking status symbol that you're really paying for.
[02:45:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Apple doesn't make shit anymore - correct! - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 512 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:45:08] <exec> 08└─nope, i'm paying for the sweet sweet ease of use, shit just works, i never have to do any admin. plus (and its a big plus) underneath its a real honest to god unix box, its not some fake norwegian clone. and dont give me that "oooooooh you should try linux! its soooooooo much better now!" bullshit,...
[02:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Oddly enough timing - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 621 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:11] <exec> 08└─Was playing a ps3 game, cat was nosing around in the wiring hell that is providing my entertainment center power. Tried to shoo her away from there, she ignored me. Got the message "no ethernet cable detected". Did the whole laptop connected networks thing, then the phone thing, then got off my ass...
[02:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oddly enough timing - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:45:13] <exec> 08└─cat silencer [youtube.com]
[02:45:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh Joy - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:45:25] <exec> 08└─It depends on the machine. Most leave a paper trail. If there's no way for a manual recount, those votes SHOULD be voided and the idiots who run the state should be voted out of office next election.
[02:45:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh Joy - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:45:26] <exec> 08└─Well, Trump DID always say the election was rigged. He warned you. Problem was that the wrong people listened. :D
[02:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mykl [1112] (Score:2) 02Re:Electronic voting - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:45:32] <exec> 08└─Regardless of whether there was enough foul play to actually change the results of the election or not, electronic voting that relies on proprietary software or doesn't also have paper ballots is a bad idea. If you're going to have electronic voting, you must make sure to collect paper ballots as we...
[02:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Electronic voting - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:45:35] <exec> 08└─Oh Geez, this non-sequitur?
[02:45:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''the left'' - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 631 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:45:39] <exec> 08└─the hypocrisy of the left denying election fraud First, it sounds like you're talking about Democrats. I don't think there large numbers of anti-Capitalists among that lot. On economic matters, Blues tend to vote Right-Center. [politicalcompass.org] Generally speaking, Blues are NOT "Left". A commit...
[02:45:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''could [...] scrap entire precincts'' - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 2305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:45:42] <exec> 08└─Yeah. I figure that the best this can do is give a public airing to just how horrible the notion of voting machines is. It may be able to impress on folks how important verifying the vote is. (My suggested dept. line was from the completely-unverifiable-voting-machines dept). . I put a follow-up ite...
[02:45:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Alternatively... - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 1137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:45:51] <exec> 08└─Yeah yeah yeah, it's like how libertarians try to distance themselves from the republicans, even though quite a few of them end up voting GOP, and several GOPers describe themselves as libertarian-lite. So if we go off of votes for greens, socialist party, etc.; "the left" is such a minuscule portio...
[02:45:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Alternatively... - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:45:53] <exec> 08└─it's like how libertarians try to distance themselves from the republicans, even though quite a few of them end up voting GOP
[02:45:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 551 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:45:57] <exec> 08└─Nope, he obviously has no knowledge of election fraud https://jhalderm.com [jhalderm.com] https://arxiv.org [arxiv.org] document him actually being able to rig multiple real elections both in the U.S. and other countries. He actually is one of the mo...
[02:46:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What, what, what? - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:46:05] <exec> 08└─When Trump was saying "the machines are rigged"
[02:47:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Re:Mr. Anderson choose to be at your desk on time - 06A Firm That Starts Work at 9.06am - 689 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:47:33] <exec> 08└─"My preference is to stay focused until I come to a logical break." That!! So, I'm not a programmer. I've never earned my money sitting at a desk (well, a couple short stints in the Navy) But, there are "logical" points in most work, where a break is called for. When I'm ass-deep inside of a machine...
[02:48:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:Was the 1st amendment repealed? - 06The Emergence of False News - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:48:08] <exec> 08└─1st amendment only stops Congress from passing laws limiting speech.
[02:51:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Enders game was about children - 06Book Review: "Black Bead" - 437 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:51:15] <exec> 08└─That's fair. I guess an alternative perspective would be to agree that practically ALL good "childrens books" ARE "all ages" books. From 'to kill a mockingbird' to 'Horton Hears a Who' to 'The Silver Chair' to 'Ender's Game'. That said, i appreciated Ender's LESS as an adult than I did as a child. I...
[02:51:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:"Review" - 06Book Review: "Black Bead" - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:51:24] <exec> 08└─Thank you for your review of my review.
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[03:45:00] <exec> 08└─>the sweet sweet ease of use, shit just works, Unless you try anything the least bit complicated. And/or if Apple actually LETS you do what you want. Which they oftentimes do not.
[03:45:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Apple doesn't make shit anymore - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:45:02] <exec> 08└─"Apple is in the business of stamping Apple logos on junk, because everybody knows the Apple logo is a fucking status symbol and it's the fucking status symbol that you're really paying for." There, FTFY.
[03:45:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:3, Funny) 02What - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:45:06] <exec> 08└─No one wants to pay $3000 for a home wireless router?
[03:45:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:45:08] <exec> 08└─A macbook will cost $3000 again as soon as Trump closes the borders and forces Apple to build a factory in the USA.
[03:45:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02More money than God - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 472 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:45:10] <exec> 08└─Why have they chosen, over the last few months to shut down every division that wasn't immediately profitable to concentrate on the one division that has run its course? No self driving cars, servers, home infrastructure. Just keep selling the same phones to the same fanboys over and over again? The...
[03:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:2) 02Re:More money than God - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:45:13] <exec> 08└─"How much more profitable do they need to be?" There are no bonuses paid out on flat profits no increase no fat bonus checks or stock pay outs coming the executives way.
[03:45:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:More money than God - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:45:15] <exec> 08└─There are no bonuses paid out on flat profits no increase no fat bonus checks or stock pay outs coming the executives way.
[03:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:More money than God - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:45:17] <exec> 08└─Flat profits = fllat stock price = unhappy investors. If it goes on long enough it can end up with a competitor buying you out, against your will if necessary. Not much of a threat to Apple right now but give it a decade of flat growth and it would be a different story.
[03:45:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Alternatively... - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:45:51] <exec> 08└─Remember, this is the same election where "the left" castigated everyone who voted for Trump as being in league with the KKK. Sorry son, you don't get to play both sides.
[03:45:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Alternatively... - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:45:52] <exec> 08└─Guilt by association fallacies aren't my thing. People shouldn't blame specific individuals you're speaking to for the actions some other people in their group took, especially if they have zero control over those other people and it's just a label anyone can put on. Where's the nuance?
[03:45:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''greens, socialist party, etc.; "the left"'' - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 1109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:45:54] <exec> 08└─Until 2016, the Greens didn't have anything remotely "Left" in their platform. ...and then it was just the tiniest amount of window dressing. [googleusercontent.com] (orig) [gp.org] This guy tells it like it is: The Green Party platform: Reformist politics in the service of imperialism [wsws.org] I...
[03:45:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:''greens, socialist party, etc.; "the left"'' - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:45:56] <exec> 08└─Gee, remind me what party Sanders ran under again?
[03:45:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Bernie isn't ''Left'' either - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 1127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:45:59] <exec> 08└─You appear to be one of those[1] who has swallowed Bernie's "democratic socialist" bullshit. [1] Heh. I almost said "nitwits". First, that term is redundant. Socialism is DEMOCRACY EVERYWHERE. If you can find a transcript[2] of something where Bernie has said that he has a plan to seed a whole bunch...
[03:46:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Michigan - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:46:05] <exec> 08└─PA has *NO* way to re-validate the votes. No paper trail.
[03:46:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm with jill - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:46:10] <exec> 08└─Or did you really think the fucking Green Party raised more money during 3 days to dispute than they managed to earn during their entire Presidential campaign?
[03:46:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score:2) 02sigh - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 747 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:46:15] <exec> 08└─Questions about the integrity of the election system probably should have been addressed a while back, ie. before the voters spent their time and effort to make use of it. Better late than never though, am I right? Wait, what's that? We're only worried about a few particular states which might have...
[03:47:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The best anti-venom - 06World Anti-Venom Supplies Are Low - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:47:02] <exec> 08└─You must be new here.
[03:48:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fake news is apparently new political correctne - 06The Emergence of False News - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:48:15] <exec> 08└─Still not engaging with reality huh?
[03:51:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Make Space Great Again - 06Satellite Abandoned In 1967 Mysteriously Comes Back Online - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:51:16] <exec> 08└─1965? You think the presidency of Lyndon B. Johnson was America's zenith?
[03:54:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:''implies'' - 06Secessionists Formally Launch Quest for California's Independence - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:54:49] <exec> 08└─There are people who, as an example, grow vegetables, sell them by the roadside, and are in competition with others who do the same--all without taking a loan from a money man or hiring others to do the work.
[03:56:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fewer Future Guitarists/Musicians - 06Don't Give Up on the Guitar. Fender is Begging You - 752 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:56:35] <exec> 08└─Until recently, that rugged bastion of cutthroat capitalism and pitiless exploitation of the workers, Germany, didn't even have a minimum wage. Oh, wait, that's not right. They have a robust social welfare system, with comprehensive benefits. They also have a strong industrial economy in which they...
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[04:44:59] <exec> 08└─...and you wondered why Ubuntu named their 15.04 release Vivid Vervet. -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
[04:46:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02The misguided "Hamilton Electors" - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 1519 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:46:16] <exec> 08└─The summary (and TFA) doesn't go into detail about all these so-called "Hamilton electors," so I looked them up. They already have a website [hamiltonelectors.com]. And there, as in other media stories about them, they quote Federalist 68 (written Alexander Hamilton under a pseudonym): "The process...
[04:47:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"Anti-Venom" - 06World Anti-Venom Supplies Are Low - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:47:13] <exec> 08└─Is this the new typo flooding the web? I've seen this more than once in the past couple of days. It's antivenin [dictionary.com] /pedant
[04:48:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Too Strict - 06A Firm That Starts Work at 9.06am - 438 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:48:00] <exec> 08└─As someone with the delayed sleep phase disorder (going to bed around 4am and waking up around noon), I should really apply without disclosing. Then when they fire me on the second day I'll get an easily winnable Americans with Disabilities Act lawsuit. If it's true that there's no other meetings or...
[04:48:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03goodie [1877] (Score:2) 02Any of those people have families? - 06A Firm That Starts Work at 9.06am - 1557 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:48:02] <exec> 08└─I don't know about others, but my schedule would never work according to those hours. I like to do some early work, take care of my kids (breakfast, play, get them ready for daycare when I can etc.) then go to work, work, come home early to pick up the kids, feed them, etc. and once they're in bed,...
[04:48:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Fake news is apparently new political correctne - 06The Emergence of False News - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:48:19] <exec> 08└─I too overwhelmingly won the popular vote (apart from people voting for candidates running for election and a bunch of write-ins who weren't).
[04:50:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:Military equipment - 06Standing Rock Protester May Lose Her Arm Because of Police Grenades - 932 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:50:24] <exec> 08└─And before people get too sympathetic: http://www.cnn.com [cnn.com] ========= Fool Bear has had it with the protesters. He says that more than two years ago, when members of the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe could have attended hearings to mak...
[04:52:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Metamaterial? - 06Metamaterial Built from Gears - 455 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:52:58] <exec> 08└─Now you're getting really pedantic. I said "wood" as referring to any specific piece of wood for simplification purposes. If you're going to be that technical, every sample of wood on the planet is different, as is every sample of steel since the patterns of carbides are different. This would mean t...
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[05:44:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Re:Ubuntu - 06Female Monkeys Use Wile to Rally Troops - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:44:54] <exec> 08└─v20.17 will be named Outcast Obama.
[05:45:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh Joy - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:45:30] <exec> 08└─Paper trails can and have been falsified too.
[05:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:''run 100% free software'' - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:45:36] <exec> 08└─Indeed; there's no good reason for a voting machine to be a general purpose computer. It could just as well, if not better, be made with a handful of wires and relays. Unless of course you need to play Doom on it.
[05:45:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03number11 [1170] (Score:2) 02Re:''could [...] scrap entire precincts'' - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 756 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:45:45] <exec> 08└─Stein's got $4.5M at this point [nationbuilder.com] (midnight Thursday), enough for WI and PA. Goal $7M would also do MI. For those who ask "why Stein?", because since she was a candidate, she's got the standing to demand a recount if she'll pay for it. (I expect Clinton would like to see a recount,...
[05:46:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:Alternatively... - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:46:00] <exec> 08└─So no disowning it now. You voted for her.
[05:46:15] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] 02The misguided "Hamilton Electors" - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 1519 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:46:15] <exec> 08└─The summary (and TFA) doesn't go into detail about all these so-called "Hamilton electors," so I looked them up. They already have a website [hamiltonelectors.com]. And there, as in other media stories about them, they quote Federalist 68 (written Alexander Hamilton under a pseudonym): "The process...
[05:47:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03charon [5660] (Score:1) 02Re:"Anti-Venom" - 06World Anti-Venom Supplies Are Low - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:47:13] <exec> 08└─The article uses the word antivenom. The doctor quoted in the article uses the word antivenom. The World Health Organization uses the word antivenom. But ok, we'll change for you, AC.
[05:47:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Welcome to Econ 101 - 06World Anti-Venom Supplies Are Low - 926 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:47:14] <exec> 08└─Pretty simple to understand once you read the short article. The problem is almost entirely in the Third World, where they simply can't pay enough to justify any of the pharma companies with the skills to successfully produce the stuff diverting resources from whatever they are doing instead. Resour...
[05:48:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Too Strict - 06A Firm That Starts Work at 9.06am - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:48:03] <exec> 08└─Delayed sleep phase disorder? Is that like restless leg syndrome? I seriously doubt that you'd be winning any money from the ADA from your made-up special snowflake disability, but nice try.
[05:48:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Fake news is apparently new political correctne - 06The Emergence of False News - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:48:22] <exec> 08└─There's a big difference between slanted and fake.
[05:48:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03jmorris [4844] 02Re:A good sign - 06The Emergence of False News - 894 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:48:40] <exec> 08└─Bzzt. Wrong answer. Go look at the election returns for that last couple of cycles. The Republican numbers have been remarkably stable, showing little variation. It is the Democrat column that is interesting. It varied about eight million from the "Hope n Change" high in 2008 to the dismal turnout i...
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[05:48:44] <exec> 08└─> #NeverTrump virtue signaling by (((certain people))) Take your racist shit somewhere else.
[05:49:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmn32480 [443] (Score:2) 02Re:"Extraverted" - 06Your Impressions of "Average" iPhone and Android Users Are Confirmed - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:49:39] <exec> 08└─I learned something new... do I get to go home now?
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[06:45:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Gamergate monkeys! - 06Female Monkeys Use Wile to Rally Troops - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:45:09] <exec> 08└─And we wonder why females are not accepted in the gaming community! They are supposed to be egging (pun only slightly intentional) on the hormone enraged males who then come to associate sex with violence. It all becomes clear now. They are not sad puppies, they are mad monkeys!
[06:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Interesting) 02My soggy knees - 06Female Monkeys Use Wile to Rally Troops - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:45:10] <exec> 08└─Not just vervet monkeys. https://www.opendemocracy.net [opendemocracy.net]
[06:45:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:My soggy knees - 06Female Monkeys Use Wile to Rally Troops - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:45:12] <exec> 08└─Good link - thank you for it.
[06:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Incorrect - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:45:23] <exec> 08└─Without internet access or without Wi-fi, your network hubs don't do any routing and are not routers.
[06:45:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02MAWA! - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:45:37] <exec> 08└─Don't worry. Trump will Make Apple Wireless Again. He even called Tim Cook about it this week.
[06:45:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh Joy - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 1178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:45:53] <exec> 08└─Besides the whole thing is bullshit, as multiple pollsters have pointed out Stein is ignoring demographic and education data to make her bullshit seem plausible...gee someone on the left ignoring reality because it doesn't follow her narrative...why am I not surprised? Anyway if you look at both the...
[06:46:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Trust in Journalism - DIED in 2003 - 06Adobe Voco 'Photoshop-for-Voice' Causes Concern - 572 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:46:49] <exec> 08└─Its ironic that you are misrepresenting the case by claiming that it enabled misrepresentation. The case, as anyone who reads the full text of the wiki page can see, is not about whether it is legal or not for a news report to lie (of course its legal to lie because 1st amendment). It is about wheth...
[06:48:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Was the 1st amendment repealed? - 06The Emergence of False News - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:48:52] <exec> 08└─And what law enables the president to restrict speech? Because I don't see it in the constituation and if congress hasn't passed such a law giving presidents that ability, then they do not have it.
[06:49:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Goatfucker - 06The Emergence of False News - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:49:08] <exec> 08└─> The meaning is a bit more subtle than the progs at Wikipedia are going to be able to grasp... Take your racial realist "nuance" shit somewhere else you goatfucker. It ain't subtle. You are a fucking nazi, so fuck off.
[06:50:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Military equipment - 06Standing Rock Protester May Lose Her Arm Because of Police Grenades - 853 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:50:50] <exec> 08└─Good find. The girl who was injured - her name sounds Polski to me. The Poles came to this country a little late, in comparison to some other nationalities. Sure, there was some intermarriage between Poles and Indians - but MOST Native Americans with European sounding names are descended from Englis...
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[06:56:44] <exec> 08└─The Mondragon Corporation employed 74,335 people in 2015. It is worker owned, though it also has non-owner workers so it is not the perfect example. But still it is a large successful cooperative business which has been around for 60 years. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipe...
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[07:45:44] <exec> 08└─As I replied below, I live in and voted in Pennsylvania. We're one of the few states that votes entirely electronically, with no paper trail.
[07:46:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Celestial [4891] (Score:2) 02Re:''could [...] scrap entire precincts'' - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:00] <exec> 08└─I live in and voted in Pennsylvania. It's all electronic with no paper trail. A recount would make no danged bit of difference other than to through the entire state out.
[07:46:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Alternatively... - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:13] <exec> 08└─When a least a sizable chunk of the left denounces affirmative action policies, third-wave feminism, or even the BLM; you can tell me about judging each person individually, otherwise it just rings hollow.
[07:46:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Alternatively... - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:18] <exec> 08└─Oh, well then you must not be aware of the 50 some odd other parties that were running, including Socialist Equality and Socialist Workers Party http://www.thegreenpapers.com [thegreenpapers.com] Obviously you must be posting from the People's Republic of Korea, or terribly igno...
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[07:47:10] <exec> 08└─I think the reason drug companies expect huge profits is that they face a huge regulatory burden bringing drugs to market. I would prefer it if the government funded drug research though universities, then allowed the pharmaceutical companies to compete on manufacturing generic drugs. If they no lon...
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[07:50:44] <exec> 08└─There is a logical, if nasty, reason why sting grenades exist. You kill a man with a grenade, you lessen the attacking force by 1. You wound a man with a grenade, you lessen the attacking force by the number of wounded, AND the number of unwounded who now have to treat and stabilise the wounded.
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[08:45:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Disagree) 02Re:My soggy knees - 06Female Monkeys Use Wile to Rally Troops - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:45:09] <exec> 08└─Men should have shot those cunts
[08:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Red Pill Bait - 06Female Monkeys Use Wile to Rally Troops - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:45:10] <exec> 08└─This story is red meat for pathetic red pillars. Given the abysmal levels of sociological knowledge here, there isn't much more value to this than provoking a reaction from the dry-dicked among us.
[08:45:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Apple doesn't make shit anymore - correct! - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:45:26] <exec> 08└─yeah. talk to me after you can debug an MPI C code that uses HDF5 on your mac. Hell, make it just HDF5 and it's still a big deal.
[08:45:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oddly enough timing - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 546 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:45:31] <exec> 08└─yeah. at least my son grew out of the "ooh, a cable, I'm going to chew on it" phase at some point. not sure when, because he didn't really have access to cables after a couple of events. as a long time cat owner: the arrival of the thin displays really messed up our lives. with a big CRT screen, you...
[08:47:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02Re:Why is large profit needed? - 06World Anti-Venom Supplies Are Low - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:19] <exec> 08└─Trump wants to lift a lot of the restrictions that are placed on experimental drugs for terminally ill patients and create a healthcare system that is competitive across state lines, which will always ensure consumers have the lowest prices available to them. Crazy how even when we want the same thi...
[08:47:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Welcome to Econ 101 - 06World Anti-Venom Supplies Are Low - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:38] <exec> 08└─And greed is exactly the reason medicine should never be for profit. Humanity 101.
[08:47:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:distractions - 06A Firm That Starts Work at 9.06am - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:50] <exec> 08└─Pivotal is a shop that's _heavy_ into pair programming and being all Agile to the point of writing their own issue tracker / workflow manager. It's less no other distractions for the rest of the day, and more the whole day is filled with distractions.
[08:47:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Interesting logic - 06A Firm That Starts Work at 9.06am - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:55] <exec> 08└─In my experience, early risers tend to prefer the outdoors, or become managers. Developers are rarely early risers.
[08:48:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Would never work here - 06A Firm That Starts Work at 9.06am - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:48:31] <exec> 08└─That would never work here. We've tried those 5-10 minute meetings, every time it turns out the first between half an hour to an hour and a half of a 5-10 minute meeting is spent by the managers rambling about all kind of stuff.
[08:50:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:Military equipment - 06Standing Rock Protester May Lose Her Arm Because of Police Grenades - 1088 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:50:56] <exec> 08└─Good point on Indian surnames. And some eastern Europeans with Mongol ancestry can pass for Amerind. A while back I did find an article about people being bussed into this ND 'event' by some Soros-backed activist outfit, but today couldn't relocate it. "Wonder if there's a money trail to be found fo...
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[09:45:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Webweasel [567] (Score:2) 02Re:Ubuntu - 06Female Monkeys Use Wile to Rally Troops - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:45:06] <exec> 08└─Ironic. Ubuntu linux is often nicknamed umbongo linux here in the uk. Because Umbongo, umbongo they make it in the congo. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[09:46:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02Re:Alternatively... - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 394 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:27] <exec> 08└─On the other side of the planet to you in the U.S., we didn't hear about much more than Trump, HRC, Stein, Johnson and Sanders. Ignorant? How many parties or candidates stood in the last election in England, or Australia, or Canada? Even politically aware, motivate people don't know about their own...
[09:46:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Alternatively... - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:28] <exec> 08└─You're right! Not being fully aware of the politics in England, it would be incredibly ignorant of me to comment on the general tenor of the politics there. Now only if the rest of you internet-experts could return the favor.
[09:46:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02Re:Alternatively... - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:30] <exec> 08└─Maybe the person posting the accusation of ignorance could have said "hey, there were 50 parties, not just three" Alas, the politics of the US seems to have repercussions for the entire planet, so it is quite reasonable for anyone to comment, even if they don't have detailed knowledge of every speci...
[09:46:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:Alternatively... - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:33] <exec> 08└─...you must not be aware of the 50 some odd other parties that were running...
[09:48:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Webweasel [567] (Score:2) 02Re:Um, rush hour? - 06A Firm That Starts Work at 9.06am - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:48:25] <exec> 08└─I get overtime for any hour past my 35 hour contract. That's been working out to be an extra £15,000 a year for the last few years.
[09:48:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Um, rush hour? - 06A Firm That Starts Work at 9.06am - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:48:26] <exec> 08└─That'd be greeaat...
[09:48:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Webweasel [567] (Score:2) 02Re:Too Strict - 06A Firm That Starts Work at 9.06am - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:48:35] <exec> 08└─Hey man, restless leg syndrome is a real fucking thing and it DRIVES ME FUCKING NUTS.
[09:50:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:''no mention of the usage of grenades'' - 06Standing Rock Protester May Lose Her Arm Because of Police Grenades - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:50:47] <exec> 08└─"Today the sea was more wet than expected, so we had to go back to port to replace our regular waterproof gear with extra waterproof gear".
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[10:44:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Well... - 06Researchers Find Potential Therapy for Brain Swelling During Concussion - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:44:54] <exec> 08└─that's swell.
[10:44:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02How long? - 06Researchers Find Potential Therapy for Brain Swelling During Concussion - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:44:56] <exec> 08└─so, professional (or amateur) sports persons who have a medium-to-high expectation of being hit on the head (all the football codes, boxing, WWE, cage fighting) suould take this drug sometime before doing their sport. The rest of us should comtinue to try not to get hit on the head..
[10:44:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Bullet in the brain - 06Researchers Find Potential Therapy for Brain Swelling During Concussion - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:44:58] <exec> 08└─cures every thing.
[10:44:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Reminds me of "blue dye" research - 06Researchers Find Potential Therapy for Brain Swelling During Concussion - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:45:00] <exec> 08└─https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/news/story/2562/blue-dye-may-hold-promise-in-treating-spinal-cord-injury.aspx [rochester.edu] Photo's: http://news.nationalgeographic.com [nationalgeographic.com]
[10:45:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02niggers so lazy - 06Watching Molecules Move in Slow Motion - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:45:08] <exec> 08└─niggers work in no-motion.
[10:45:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02cock into ass - 06Watching Molecules Move in Slow Motion - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:45:10] <exec> 08└─real fucking slow like
[10:45:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Your mama so fat - 06New Method Helps Identify Antibiotics in Mass Spectrometry Datasets - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:45:18] <exec> 08└─I wanna whip her big data ass with a markov chain.
[10:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02low quality shit posting - 06New Method Helps Identify Antibiotics in Mass Spectrometry Datasets - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:45:20] <exec> 08└─your empty comment section isn't even worth
[10:45:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:low quality shit posting - 06New Method Helps Identify Antibiotics in Mass Spectrometry Datasets - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:45:23] <exec> 08└─Due to excessive bad posting from this IP or Subnet, comment posting has temporarily been disabled. If it's you, fucking awesome
[10:45:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02My soggy knees - 06Female Monkeys Use Wile to Rally Troops - 143 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:45:33] <exec> 08└─Not just vervet monkeys. https://www.opendemocracy.net [opendemocracy.net]
[10:45:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02I knew it - 06Female Monkeys Use Wile to Rally Troops - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:45:37] <exec> 08└─Stupid sexy monkeys...
[10:45:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03rob_on_earth [5485] (Score:2) 02patent that - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:45:58] <exec> 08└─hmmm, I think I should patent patent and anti-cat power-brick covering. Anti-dog chewing would be extra. please line up with your money ready,
[10:46:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh Joy - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 790 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:46:23] <exec> 08└─And what everyone should be ROYALLY PISSED about is those in the electoral college refusing to do their fucking jobs, does everybody here realize they just said "We don't give a fuck what you peasants want, you didn't vote as we wished so we are gonna ignore your votes"? Everyone does realize this,...
[10:46:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh Joy - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 778 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:46:25] <exec> 08└─You know I did wonder, before the results were out, whether all his accusations of vote rigging and refusal to accept the results was in fact a cunning trap, to box Hilary and her supporters into a corner. Think about it. If the Dems do suspect cheating, they are now going to look pretty stupid now...
[10:46:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Electronic voting - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 401 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:46:27] <exec> 08└─Regardless of whether there was enough foul play to actually change the results of the election or not, electronic voting that relies on proprietary software or doesn't also have paper ballots is a bad idea. If you're going to have electronic voting, you must make sure to collect paper ballots as we...
[10:46:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Electronic voting - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:46:31] <exec> 08└─That was so stupid it made me laugh out loud. Thanks :-)
[10:47:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Alternatively... - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 1046 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:47:04] <exec> 08└─The People's Republic of Korea https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] was actually what I was referring to. The program of the PRK was presented in its September 14 twenty-seven point program. The program included: "the confiscation without compensation of lands...
[10:47:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:Alternatively... - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:47:05] <exec> 08└─The People's Republic of Korea https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] was actually what I was referring to.
[10:48:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Re:Do you think it is a good idea? - 06A Firm That Starts Work at 9.06am - 431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:48:21] <exec> 08└─Hawthorne effect. If I ever run a company, I'll set up a free organic yoghurt stand, and a shrubbery, with another shrubbery beside this shrubbery, only slightly higher, so we get the two-level effect with a little path running down the middle, and decree that people have to wear Hawaiian shirts on...
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[11:45:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:How long? - 06Researchers Find Potential Therapy for Brain Swelling During Concussion - 623 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:45:02] <exec> 08└─We will reach a point where sports will get even more violent due to our ability to heal or prevent neurological damage. No need for concussion-reducing rules or advanced padding if you can heal the damage as it accumulates. Or sports as we know them will become obsolete as medical and genetic engin...
[11:45:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02This is a surprise? - 06Female Monkeys Use Wile to Rally Troops - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:45:37] <exec> 08└─As usual, pussy rules! FTW!
[11:46:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:46:01] <exec> 08└─My friend, you severely underestimate Apple users.
[11:46:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:''run 100% free software'' - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 1043 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:46:33] <exec> 08└─Stalin said that it doesn't matter who casts the votes, only who counts them. This is why, in relatively free countries, we make sure that any candidate and their representatives can audit the election. When you start to have computerised voting, you go from a situation where anyone can audit to one...
[11:46:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:We must investigate tampering - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:46:39] <exec> 08└─Oh, and thanks for pointing out the hypocrisy of the left denying election fraud... until their person lost.
[11:48:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03KritonK [465] (Score:2) 02Confused - 06World Anti-Venom Supplies Are Low - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:48:11] <exec> 08└─Anti-Venom? I was initially confused, until I realized that the article does not refer to this Venom [wikipedia.org]!
[11:48:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Not for early risers - 06A Firm That Starts Work at 9.06am - 857 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:48:29] <exec> 08└─People naturally come to full awakeness at different times, but there's a general trend that this gets earlier as people get older. There's a reason that most companies have a 9-5 work day: that's the time when most men in their 50s (i.e. most managers) are at their most awake and alert. For teenage...
[11:53:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score:2) 02Re:Was it really just them? - 06Volkswagen Aims to Go Electric, Raise Lagging Profits - 1385 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:53:54] <exec> 08└─Third option: Nobody involved really cares. You see, VW cheated on emissions tests. The other manufacturers didn't care because they cheated them too, the people buying the cars didn't care because they wanted better fuel economy or more power (the %age of people who buy a car because of their emiss...
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[12:45:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Spamalope [5233] (Score:2) 02This could be huge! - 06Researchers Find Potential Therapy for Brain Swelling During Concussion - 953 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:09] <exec> 08└─I suffered a concussion from an accident. The after effects caused pain directly in the brain that was able to bypass the normal pain upper limit before the pain receptors are swamped and you stop feeling more. You know the way a normal injury dulls to throbbing after a minute or two? This increased...
[12:45:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:Red Pill Bait - 06Female Monkeys Use Wile to Rally Troops - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:45:41] <exec> 08└─What sociological knowledge? It's monkeys. As for humans, violent death had to have been as common for males as death during child-labor was for women. Otherwise, monogamy wouldn't work. That leaves either hunting or warfare.
[12:48:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mr. Anderson choose to be at your desk on time - 06A Firm That Starts Work at 9.06am - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:48:54] <exec> 08└─Couldn't agree more. So sad that the world seems to be dominated by people who like illogical interruptions at times when they see a round number on some device. A device that may not even show a completely accurate time!
[12:51:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:''no mention of the usage of grenades'' - 06Standing Rock Protester May Lose Her Arm Because of Police Grenades - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:51:26] <exec> 08└─Small minds are easily amused, right? When you have a couple year's sea duty behind you, come back and tell me about the sea.
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[13:45:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02bad - 06High Renewable Electricity Growth Continued in 2015 - 451 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:45:00] <exec> 08└─wow. just wow. the numbers on renewables look fancy until you see that nearly 50% of working on-grid renewables is hydro. the solar generation on-grid worldwide is something around 2% with germany taking a big chunk of that "worldwide". not everyone has a river they can dam up or a lucky windy coast...
[13:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03bd [2773] (Score:2) 02Re:Bullet in the brain - 06Researchers Find Potential Therapy for Brain Swelling During Concussion - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:12] <exec> 08└─When shot in the head, and the traumatic injury does not kill you instantly, brain swelling usually will. So, TFA may actually save you from that proposed 'cure'.
[13:45:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Red Pill Bait - 06Female Monkeys Use Wile to Rally Troops - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:47] <exec> 08└─This story is red meat for pathetic red pillars. Given the abysmal levels of sociological knowledge here, there isn't much more value to this than provoking a reaction from the dry-dicked among us.
[13:46:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:We must investigate tampering - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:46:51] <exec> 08└─The one that is currently getting 2 mil from the greens, because competing political parties are just so accommodating that way.
[13:48:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score:2) 02Re:Expiration Date - 06World Anti-Venom Supplies Are Low - 1102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:48:12] <exec> 08└─Except drugs DO expire, and the expiry dates are determined using stability studies. Most stability studies are only run for 3 years, with accelerated studies performed only in certain circumstances. Why should anyone reasonably expect to do a study on expiry for 10+ years when most product is consu...
[13:50:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03gidds [589] (Score:2) 02Re: who gets to decide? - 06The Emergence of False News - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:50:18] <exec> 08└─Well, for starters, how about the dictionary? true, adj., adv., & v. adj. (truer, truest) 1. In accordance with fact or reality (a true story). 2. Genuine; rightly or strictly so called; not spurious or counterfeit (a true friend; the true heir to the throne). ...
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[14:44:58] <exec> 08└─That will keep those foreigners away from the healthcare. Don't forget to make France pay for it.
[14:44:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Easy - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 669 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:45:00] <exec> 08└─Since an utility bill is sufficient, it is obviously sufficient to have a residential address in the UK (because that's all an utility bill proves). Also note that an utility bill doesn't have your photo. So you could just have a document mailed to your address to prove that you live at that address...
[14:45:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Appalling - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:45:02] <exec> 08└─Just goes to show how fucking low the Tories will go. In related news, many NHS doctors are saying they will refuse these asinine paperwork checks: https://www.theguardian.com [theguardian.com] Good for them.
[14:45:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Unfortunately, we need some sort of ID system - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 1681 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:45:04] <exec> 08└─Stupid situation... Nobody trusts government to implement an ID card system without turning it into Big Brother, letting hackers walk off with the data or simply creating yet another massive government IT project SNAFU. On the other hand, we need such a system. There are occasions on which we need t...
[14:45:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03garrulus [6051] (Score:1) 02And whats wrong about this? - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 8 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:45:06] <exec> 08└─GO HOME.
[14:46:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:Red Pill Bait - 06Female Monkeys Use Wile to Rally Troops - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:00] <exec> 08└─Only a homophobic asshole would assume that people who don't have sex with women aren't having sex at all.
[14:46:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:2) 02Re:Apple doesn't make shit anymore - correct! - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 1471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:19] <exec> 08└─As someone who manages Windows, Mac and Linux, desktop and servers, for the last 17 years: Yeah, right. I pressed "Renew Certificate" on the Mac Server app once. It failed to renew, removed the old certificate from the chain and deleted the on-disk file stored in a hidden part of /System where it ke...
[14:48:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Re:"Anti-Venom" - 06World Anti-Venom Supplies Are Low - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:48:36] <exec> 08└─Antivenin is the original correct spelling; "antivenom" only relatively recently became considered 'correct' due to the high number of people that have seen it spelled that way online without having been exposed to the original form first.
[14:50:52] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03goody [2135] 02Really? - 06Your Impressions of "Average" iPhone and Android Users Are Confirmed - 676 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:50:52] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure where they get these people for these studies, but I'm a somewhat introverted middle-aged successful business professional male, and pretty much everyone in the business I'm in has an iPhone. Android users are outliers, usually "younguns" who like to tweak and play with every last thing...
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[15:45:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score:2) 02Re:Just build a wall - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:00] <exec> 08└─We are all subjects to the Queen. Her kingdom reigns over all of the world. Therefore, everybody must pay the price, except the Brits, who are just petty folks bickering. The Queen will show the way and the wall shall be built to keep out those who the Queen deems unworthy (everybody). All hail the...
[15:45:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Webweasel [567] (Score:2) 02Re:Easy - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 982 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:03] <exec> 08└─Right, because in the modern UK we get posted utility bills right? BZZZZ! WRONG! EVERYTHING is paperless. I have not had a bill of any kind in over 3 years now, EVERYTHING is paperless billing. So, will you accept the printed out email that I could have faked? Fuck no. Will my utility provider send...
[15:45:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:Easy - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 1917 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:05] <exec> 08└─> No, the tory party are destroying the NHS by trying to privatize it. Slight correction: The tories are trying to destroy the NHS IN ORDER to privatise it: They slash funding (while shuffling the figures and claiming to be investing), overwork the staff, attack their morale and impose all sorts of...
[15:45:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Webweasel [567] (Score:2) 02Re:Easy - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:07] <exec> 08└─It has survived this far, long may it continue. It's also worth noting that despite years of this kind of abuse, the NHS still provides a world class service with outstanding results.
[15:45:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Appalling - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:10] <exec> 08└─And with UKIP taking Conservative votes, the Conservatives have to be even more vindictive to tempt back defectors...
[15:45:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:And whats wrong about this? - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 1576 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:14] <exec> 08└─>:And whats wrong about this? You want the list? OK, here we go: 1 - It complicates healthcare provision. Do you really want to be fishing around in your pocket for ID in order to get your arms sewn back on? What if you don't happen to have your passport on you the day you get savaged by a rabid bad...
[15:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:2) 02Easy enough - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:16] <exec> 08└─Around here (Canada) we have this fancy new technology called a Health Card a plastic card that resembles a credit card that every person entitled to health care gets, seems relatively simple for the UK to do the same. Before they came out with the plastic we had paper ones to show at the Doctors of...
[15:45:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02+/- - 06High Renewable Electricity Growth Continued in 2015 - 930 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:25] <exec> 08└─44% Hydro is not a problem since most hydro is decades old. Hoover Dam, Shasta Dam for examples. I does show that wind and sun are growing as the 44% keeps smaller. Setting up wind mills (or tilting them, if you prefer).is quite fascinating. The actual constryction is quite quick, it is all the p...
[15:49:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03aclarke [2049] (Score:2) 02Re:Not for early risers - 06A Firm That Starts Work at 9.06am - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:49:08] <exec> 08└─Could be, but I was happiest getting up around 06:00 as a teenager. I DEFINITELY would not be rolling in at 10-11 at any age I've experienced so far. The goal would have been to get to work by 07:30 and then roll out a bit earlier and enjoy my afternoon. There may be trends, but as individuals we're...
[15:49:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Interesting logic - 06A Firm That Starts Work at 9.06am - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:49:15] <exec> 08└─so we decided to have them start programming at 9, so that they have to leave home before 8 to make sure they are tired when they start working!
[15:49:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Typical controlling dick - 06A Firm That Starts Work at 9.06am - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:49:45] <exec> 08└─Moreover, aren't a lot of programmers natural night owls?
[15:50:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score:2) 02Re:Fake news is apparently new political correctne - 06The Emergence of False News - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:50:10] <exec> 08└─Peddle that shit elsewhere pal, HuffingPaint wasn't biased, they were on the same Org Chart with HRC.
[15:53:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Re:WorldCon or NASFiC next year? - 06Book Review: "Black Bead" - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:53:28] <exec> 08└─Travelocity quoted me a price of over $1000 for a ticket to Helsinki last night. Seems a bit much, even for a great event like WorldCon. I could swing it, but not easily, so I'm still up in the air if I'm going to WorldCon or NASFiC or neither.
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[16:44:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Yuuuuuge trust factor - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:58] <exec> 08└─Neither FireEye, Microsoft or ARN reveal details on the range of Telemetry data that FireEye gains access to.
[16:44:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02But - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:00] <exec> 08└─Hillary is scared shitless we will have a recount and find she rigged the elections and STILL LOST TO DONALD TRUMP!! Jail and shame. Shame and jail.
[16:45:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:But - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 559 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:02] <exec> 08└─But back on-topic, I have to at least congratulate Microsoft's Bing search engine for not torpedoing its search quality or otherwise resorting to unusual fuckery to benefit Hillary -- unlike the Jew-run preschool-themed search engine did. The leftist mayhem is a Jewish diversion (Jews run the media,...
[16:45:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:But - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:04] <exec> 08└─That still isn't back on-topic just because it has the word Microsoft in it.
[16:45:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:But - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:06] <exec> 08└─Even though you're off topic... Why do you think she's been so silent since losing? If there was no hacking to her benefit you could bet she'd be making a stink about losing.
[16:45:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Give? - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:08] <exec> 08└─Give? Hardly. Sell, yes. Who didn't see this coming?
[16:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilsa [6082] (Score:1) 02Is anyone *actually* surprised? - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 440 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:10] <exec> 08└─First Microsoft pushes Windows 10 so hard they even resort to using techniques typically used by malware authors. Then they forces telemetry to be recorded by these same installations, and even backport the forced telemetry collection to Windows 8 and 7, while actively preventing the user from disab...
[16:45:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Unfortunately, we need some sort of ID system - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 983 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:27] <exec> 08└─> (unless you demand the freedom to have criminals open bank accounts in your name) If a criminal wants to open a bank account and put their money into it, that's fine by me. > banks et. al. are turning to all sorts of stupid, insecure and potentially discriminatory methods to do it. There is no suc...
[16:45:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Re:Unfortunately, we need some sort of ID system - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:29] <exec> 08└─Simply having the physical card is sufficient because its more important to visa and mastercard that customers use the card (rather than cash or a check) than it is to prevent every last chance of fraud.
[16:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Silly rabbit. - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:33] <exec> 08└─Silly rabbit. Healthcare is not for patients. Its for bureaucrats, politicians, demagoguery and lucrative service contracts. Also, roools!! Following rules is more important than doing work.
[16:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And whats wrong about this? - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:35] <exec> 08└─But but his rage boner!?!? How else can he push back against those filthy illegals that took his jeerrb???
[16:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:And whats wrong about this? - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 880 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:37] <exec> 08└─Almost forgot: 7 - If people (whether illegal immigrants, legal immigrants or legitimate UK nationals without the necessary documentation) become nervous about visiting the doctor for fear of being deported, then they will stop going to the doctor. That will not only result in the direct suffering o...
[16:45:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Easy enough - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:40] <exec> 08└─Here in OUtback, Nowhere, US of A, I still have a stupid paper card. Get a new one every several months, it rides around in my wallet, and when I have a use for it - THE DAMNED THING IS ILLEGIBLE!! Plastic cards make sense, whether it's a national health care, or some crappy private health care fois...
[16:45:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Easy enough - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:42] <exec> 08└─"New" as in last century "new", too.
[16:45:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Uhhhh - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:45] <exec> 08└─A passport is not proof of RESIDENCY. It's proof of citizenship. To qualify for NHS services you need to be a legal RESIDENT of the UK for however many number of months it is. There is no way, however, that someone like me who has a British passport (dual citizen) should qualify for free NHS healthc...
[16:45:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score:2) 02Re:bad - 06High Renewable Electricity Growth Continued in 2015 - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:54] <exec> 08└─True, but how much has hydro been expanding and what was hydro's share of renewable 10 years ago? There is obvious progress being made, and for a system as resistant to change as what we have it is some pretty steady progress. That 2% was at one point 0%, so thats growth to me. Sure it might not be...
[16:46:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Friggin... - 06Watching Molecules Move in Slow Motion - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:46:16] <exec> 08└─This is friggin' awesome! Yet another thing we are understanding better.
[16:46:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:My soggy knees - 06Female Monkeys Use Wile to Rally Troops - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:46:40] <exec> 08└─See why i like SN: learn something new every day! :)
[16:46:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Red Pill Bait - 06Female Monkeys Use Wile to Rally Troops - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:46:44] <exec> 08└─Modern monkeys generally opt for welfare.
[16:47:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:47:13] <exec> 08└─Robots in the USA are just so much more expensive than robots in China.
[16:47:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rich [945] (Score:2) 02Completely understandable - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 1242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:47:20] <exec> 08└─These days, whose internet doesn't come with a wireless router (if it's still cable bound) or is completely wireless at all? There's simply no point in providing such stuff to a shrinking minority of people while they aim at the 80% of easy revenue. Which leaves the Time Capsule thingy. If they cont...
[16:47:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Makes sense - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 1755 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:47:22] <exec> 08└─I can think of many reasons to criticise Apple at the moment - such as their continual efforts to drive pro/power users off the platform, but ditching the AirPort/Time Capsule range (which were never power-user products) isn't one of them. These products made sense in the bad old days when getting M...
[16:47:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:''run 100% free software'' - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:47:49] <exec> 08└─We use optical scanners. The results could be spot checked with open source machines to detect any funny business.
[16:47:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:We must investigate tampering - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:47:58] <exec> 08└─Sorry, which of the candidates do you think was the left one
[16:48:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score:2) 02Re:''could [...] scrap entire precincts'' - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 526 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:48:04] <exec> 08└─I wonder how much Clinton actually wants the results looked at. I have not seen many of the Democratic party's insiders demanding a recount. Maybe they are afraid of their own campaign fraud being uncovered in some of these states. If they both did campaign fraud, but she did more (Dems always sayin...
[16:48:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rich [945] (Score:2) 02Ministry, anyone? - 06Adobe Voco 'Photoshop-for-Voice' Causes Concern - 346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:48:50] <exec> 08└─And now, a message from the president of the United States, George W. Bush... I've adopted sophisticated terrorist tactics, and I'm a dangerous, dangerous man, with dangerous, dangerous weapons. I want to drain the coal resources in America and foreign sources of crude oil. I'm a weapon of mass des...
[16:49:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Why is large profit needed? - 06World Anti-Venom Supplies Are Low - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:49:14] <exec> 08└─I would prefer it if the government funded drug research though universities, then allowed the pharmaceutical companies to compete on manufacturing generic drugs.
[16:50:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02When those buying your labor recognize no other ed - 06A Firm That Starts Work at 9.06am - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:50:09] <exec> 08└─It's a reason to get an education, which doesn't necessarily require schooling.
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[17:45:10] <exec> 08└─at least congratulate Microsoft's Bing search engine for not torpedoing its search quality or otherwise resorting to unusual fuckery to benefit Hillary -- unlike [I assume this is a reference to Google] did.
[17:45:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:But - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:13] <exec> 08└─Don't be ridiculous, I don't know where you get these outrageous ideas about Hilary Clinton. She doesn't deserve to be locked up. Where would you get such a notion? We owe her a major debt of gratitude for her service to our country. I mean that very sincerely.
[17:45:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:But - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:15] <exec> 08└─Yeah - she did help the overpopulation problem in Benghazi.
[17:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:But - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:17] <exec> 08└─What is it that's said about old age and treachery...
[17:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03chewbacon [1032] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Is it illegal? - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:21] <exec> 08└─Microsoft said: And what are YOU gonna do about it? Switch to Mac? Linux? Hahahahahahaha!
[17:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Is it illegal? - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 3 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:23] <exec> 08└─Yes
[17:45:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Is it illegal? - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:26] <exec> 08└─And Hazuki said to MS: "Yeah, I am. Welcome to 2004. That penguin isn't waving; it's flipping you the bird. So to speak."
[17:45:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Is it illegal? - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:28] <exec> 08└─And thanks to MS' own shenanigans with their software store, they managed to scare Steam into porting over to Linux and creating their own Linux Distro. It's not going to be much longer that there's going to be any real advantage in running Windows over other options as games and a few niche hardwar...
[17:45:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain_nifty [4252] (Score:2) 02Data is an Asset - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 873 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:30] <exec> 08└─In the world we currently live in, data is an asset, and corporations exist to make money from assets, virtually guaranteeing that any data a corporation has access to WILL be monetized in some manner. This used to be done internally, but ever since Facebook, Google, and the other ad networks of the...
[17:45:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Data is an Asset - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:32] <exec> 08└─"or poison the well with as much false information as you can. " http://www.onlyrealguys.com [onlyrealguys.com] Pissing in the well (reservoir) since about 2000! ;^)
[17:45:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Anyone surprised? - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:34] <exec> 08└─We all knew this was the next step. This sort of data is the cash cow for the foreseeable future. Its worked out pretty well for google, and everyone else wants a part of that pie too.
[17:45:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:And whats wrong about this? - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:58] <exec> 08└─" If people (whether illegal immigrants, legal immigrants or legitimate UK nationals without the necessary documentation) become nervous about visiting the doctor for fear of being deported, then they will stop going to the doctor. "
[17:46:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score:1) 02Re:Easy enough - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:46:01] <exec> 08└─Here in OUtback, Nowhere, US of A, I still have a stupid paper card. Get a new one every several months, it rides around in my wallet, and when I have a use for it - THE DAMNED THING IS ILLEGIBLE!!
[17:46:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score:1) 02Re:Uhhhh - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 1839 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:46:05] <exec> 08└─If you pay tax and/or National Insurance to the UK authorities, despite living outside the UK, there is a good argument that you should be entitled to NHS care. Note that some people live in more than one country, and it is also perfectly possible to be tax-resident in more than one country simultan...
[17:46:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Passports might be excessive - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:46:07] <exec> 08└─But some sort of proof of residency is not unreasonable. Here, even if you dont drive you can get a state ID. There is really no excuse for not doing this, unless you support fraud. Ours is subsidized if you are poor . They even come to the citizens on a regular schedule for those that have no trans...
[17:46:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Apply immediately! - 06Researchers Find Potential Therapy for Brain Swelling During Concussion - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:46:31] <exec> 08└─For best results apply liberally to all nearby true believers!
[17:47:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Red Pill Bait - 06Female Monkeys Use Wile to Rally Troops - 464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:09] <exec> 08└─LOL, obvious troll is obvious. Anyways, there's a reason why men are refusing to marry women. Mostly that women tend to suck at marriage. Gay men have the best success rates for marriage and lesbians have the worst with heterosexual couples being somewhere in the middle with the women involved initi...
[17:47:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilsa [6082] (Score:1) 02Re:What - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:39] <exec> 08└─No one wants to pay $3000 for a home wireless router?
[17:47:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:More money than God - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:45] <exec> 08└─Flat profits = fllat stock price = unhappy investors. If it goes on long enough it can end up with a competitor buying you out, against your will if necessary.
[17:47:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Completely understandable - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:49] <exec> 08└─Plenty of reasons not to blindly accept the WiFi from your ISP. Aside from security reasons, some even charge you more to use it. That said, i'm not trying to imply apple Airports were the ideal choice, so not a huge loss here.. ( tho time machines, were pretty cool )
[17:48:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:nerds - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:48:35] <exec> 08└─Do yourself a favor and don't throw faggot around as an insult, Kurenai. Considering what you are that is incredibly hypocritical.
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[18:45:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02When the Nobel committee comes calling? - 06How Old is Too Old to Be Brilliant? - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:06] <exec> 08└─Age: Jewish.
[18:45:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:When the Nobel committee comes calling? - 06How Old is Too Old to Be Brilliant? - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:07] <exec> 08└─Beyond Zionist conspiracies, it's hard to fault the Jews for maintaining a culture of educational achievement for these many centuries.
[18:45:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The myth is even stronger in mathematics - 06How Old is Too Old to Be Brilliant? - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:10] <exec> 08└─Through such grand pronouncements, such as from G.H. Hardy, it is an even more unshakeable myth that mathematics is a young man's game [slate.com]. Just like here, it has been shown many times to not be true in general [ams.org], but it is still cited as fact.
[18:45:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Ageism - 06How Old is Too Old to Be Brilliant? - 497 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:12] <exec> 08└─As I recall, mathematics has a pretty steep age cutoff for making earth-shattering contributions. Not that you can't make meaningful contributions, but you won't revolutionize the field. I myself feel my faculties slowing down. Not that I am incapable, but it does take more effort and time than when...
[18:45:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ageism - 06How Old is Too Old to Be Brilliant? - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:14] <exec> 08└─As I recall, mathematics has a pretty steep age cutoff for making earth-shattering contributions.
[18:45:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02You are too old - 06How Old is Too Old to Be Brilliant? - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:16] <exec> 08└─when you've fallen and you can't get up.
[18:45:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You are too old - 06How Old is Too Old to Be Brilliant? - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:18] <exec> 08└─So a few months then? Seems kinds harsh.
[18:45:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:You are too old - 06How Old is Too Old to Be Brilliant? - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:20] <exec> 08└─That's what Vi-agra is for.
[18:45:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03archfeld [4650] (Score:2) 02Balck and White, or only labels - 06How Old is Too Old to Be Brilliant? - 700 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:23] <exec> 08└─You are only as old mentally as let yourself get. The idea that age is some sort of hardline determiner of creativity is foolish and stupid. I think often that the young find and create new things because they are 'unconvinced' that there is anything they can't do. If you allow yourself to believe i...
[18:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Re:But - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 373 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:36] <exec> 08└─No, she's being quiet because she doesn't want to come off as the sore loser. Gore did the same thing in 2000. She probably doesn't need to be vocal if she has others leading the charge for her, like Nixon did in 1960. That way she can keep the high road and say she wants to do the honorable thing,...
[18:45:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Give? - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:41] <exec> 08└─Who, you ask? A few ignorant old bastards from my generation. And, zillions of clueless fools from the later generations. Seriously - those of us who actually SAW this coming are outnumbered thousands to one by those who don't know, don't care, and can't be bothered.
[18:45:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:Is it illegal? - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 1397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:50] <exec> 08└─Mac sucks ass. Linux now sucks ass too. In the early Ubuntu era Linux was great, it was a viable alternative for all daily-use applications and struck a good Windows-like balance between ease-of-use and usefulness. Now, it sucks shit. The window-managers are all dumbed-down worthless shit, except fo...
[18:45:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is it illegal? - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:52] <exec> 08└─as if it were written singlehandedly by an autistic Chinaman.
[18:45:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Data is an Asset - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:56] <exec> 08└─NSFW
[18:45:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03metarox [788] (Score:1) 02Re:Data is an Asset - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 455 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:58] <exec> 08└─What is needed is a bot/app I can install on my machine that will browse a whitelisted list of websites of all types and randomly click on shit/links/products so that in the end it looks like I like everything in the world and poisons that data well. Make that working randomly at different times dai...
[18:46:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Anyone surprised? - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:01] <exec> 08└─Goggle doesn't sell their data. It's their most valuable asset.
[18:46:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Here's what I've done - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 1816 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:46:03] <exec> 08└─I use almost exclusively Linux, though I have a windows laptop for my work. Even on that I primarily do development within a CentOS VM in VM Workstation Player. That aside, when I updated from Windows 8 to 10 I knew it was doing insane shit around all this "telemetry" just based on that enless hard...
[18:46:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Easy - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:17] <exec> 08└─Why anyone would choose to go into Nursing in the current environment boggles me
[18:46:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Appalling - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:21] <exec> 08└─HOW DARE these monsters actually attempt to limit free healthcare to the legal citizens whose taxes pay for it!!!!? As we all know, everybody should get everything free all the time, and the magic money fairy will take care of it!
[18:46:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Appalling - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:23] <exec> 08└─The scale of the problem, as usual, has been vastly exaggerated by the rabid right-wing tabloid news papers, the same propaganda operations that got us Brexit.
[18:46:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Appalling - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:25] <exec> 08└─The problem is that they're also harassing ordinary citizens to do this. Defenses of the TSA often come in the form of something similar to your comment, but they're missing the point as well.
[18:46:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Unfortunately, we need some sort of ID system - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:30] <exec> 08└─> Not so good for the end user who falls victim to fraud and can expect a shedload of hassle and uncompensated expenses before hopefully they get their money back First you worried about criminals putting money into bank accounts and now you think its the end user's money rather than the bank's mone...
[18:46:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Wooosh! - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:39] <exec> 08└─None of what you wrote is a rebuttal to the fact that even illegal immigrants are part of society and their illness is our illness. Herd immunity requires everyone, regardless of legal status, to be vaccinated.
[18:46:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Easy enough - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:45] <exec> 08└─Here in Blighty, at the age of 18, we are issued with a National Insurance number card, just like a credit card. We also have a paper card with our NHS numbers on it. We don't have to show it to get treatment, though.
[18:46:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03fraxinus-tree [5590] (Score:1) 02British are still lucky - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:46:50] <exec> 08└─Here in Bulgaria, using public healthcare services requires fingerprint registration.
[18:46:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:British are still lucky - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:52] <exec> 08└─Just hope you don't lose your fingers in an accident!
[18:46:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:3, Informative) 02I found it! - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 766 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:46:54] <exec> 08└─I vaguely remembered reading about this. Now I found a relevant article from BBC News from 2013: http://www.bbc.com [bbc.com] "The UK has reciprocal agreements with most European nations and 28 other countries, and under these visitors are given free NHS care. The NHS shou...
[18:46:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:I found it! - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:56] <exec> 08└─Stop talking sense on the Intertubes.
[18:47:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:This could be huge! - 06Researchers Find Potential Therapy for Brain Swelling During Concussion - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:19] <exec> 08└─That sounds a lot like the way Ethanol Fueled feels every morning.
[18:47:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Red Pill Bait - 06Female Monkeys Use Wile to Rally Troops - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:57] <exec> 08└─Oh man, have you seen the fallout from this? http://theredpillmovie.com [theredpillmovie.com]
[18:48:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02300 - 06Female Monkeys Use Wile to Rally Troops - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:48:02] <exec> 08└─"Come back with your reinforced banana leaf, or on it!!!1!" [wikipedia.org]
[18:48:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh Joy - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:48:55] <exec> 08└─Then your politicians are morons and your state's votes should be thrown out. We need a federal law mandating a paper trail; paper is a lot harder to hack than bits. In Illinois, you mark a paper ballot, which is inserted into the computer, where it's coun ted and stored.
[18:50:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:Why is large profit needed? - 06World Anti-Venom Supplies Are Low - 691 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:50:31] <exec> 08└─You people are getting ripped off by Obamacare. Insurance companies jacked up their rates with the flimsy justification that "most employers pay it anyway". I was surprised to learn that the insurance companies had essentially divided up the states amongst themselves. As long as the concept of unive...
[18:50:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03charon [5660] (Score:1) 02Re:"Anti-Venom" - 06World Anti-Venom Supplies Are Low - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:50:52] <exec> 08└─That is true. However, as much as language pedants dislike it, all languages evolve. I am a prescriptivist myself, so I understand the tendency to wish to freeze english in a time when twerk was not a word. But every source in the article used "antivenom", it's not my job to correct them.
[18:55:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Make Space Great Again - 06Satellite Abandoned In 1967 Mysteriously Comes Back Online - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:55:12] <exec> 08└─Of course not. Anytime between Plessey v. Ferguson and Brown v. Board of Education will do. Take us back!
[18:55:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Enders game was about children - 06Book Review: "Black Bead" - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:55:25] <exec> 08└─I think I'm in agreement. A children's book IMO is one that only appeals to children (e.g., "Horton Hears a Who").
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[19:45:09] <exec> 08└─Their intellectual achievement is especially astonishing, given their proclivity to cut up their own sons' sexual organs in mindless deference to barbaric relio-cultural blood rituals. Quite the study on the compartmentalization of stupidity, really.
[19:45:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Re:When the Nobel committee comes calling? - 06How Old is Too Old to Be Brilliant? - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:12] <exec> 08└─Find Jews in your area. [judas.watch]
[19:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Ageism - 06How Old is Too Old to Be Brilliant? - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:17] <exec> 08└─Yes, so you come up with a heliocentric cosmological model, calculate the relative sizes of the Sun and the Moon, and then no one expects much of you when you are almost 2400 years old. But it may be that age teaches modesty, and the importance of not being seen, so that the contributions of the age...
[19:45:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03xpda [5991] (Score:2) 02Age Matters. - 06How Old is Too Old to Be Brilliant? - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:23] <exec> 08└─(1) When you measure productivity it includes the effects of age, since age has a definite effect on productivity. (2) Older scientists have better access to younger collaberators to do the work best done by faster brains.
[19:45:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ilsa [6082] 02Is anyone *actually* surprised? - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 440 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:43] <exec> 08└─First Microsoft pushes Windows 10 so hard they even resort to using techniques typically used by malware authors. Then they forces telemetry to be recorded by these same installations, and even backport the forced telemetry collection to Windows 8 and 7, while actively preventing the user from disab...
[19:45:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is it illegal? - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:51] <exec> 08└─I think you mean Unity sucks... And I agree 100%. Which is why I start with Ubuntu Gnome, then install gnome-flashback which gives me the good old Ubuntu 10.04 desktop look and feel. They (Unity) tried to make Ubuntu look like Windows Metro and pissed off many users, which went elsewhere or learned...
[19:45:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Re:Is it illegal? - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:53] <exec> 08└─There are no minimize or maximize buttons on the windows
[19:45:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Is it illegal? - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:56] <exec> 08└─Just found this gem: [soylentnews.org] " Contrary to our wishes, there may be some problems that exist in the release, even though it is declared stable. "
[19:45:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Is it illegal? - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:58] <exec> 08└─Er, sorry, this [debian.org] is the first link above, and is the first Google hit when Googling "Jessie Stable."
[19:46:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Anyone surprised? - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 557 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:46:06] <exec> 08└─That's my understanding too. Google uses their data as a choke-hold on advertisers wanting to reach you, the potential buyer. Then they sell access to you (via them as an intermediate). OTOH, I'm not well informed of the actions within Google, so I could be wrong. I believe I'm better informed than...
[19:46:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:Here's what I've done - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:46:09] <exec> 08└─The solution has been scrubbed from that page. Instead, you are supposed to dick around with msconfig.
[19:46:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Scammers have a leg to stand on? - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:46:11] <exec> 08└─So now, when somebody from "Microsoft" says that you computer has been sending the errors caused by viruses, there is a small chance they are telling the truth? I guess to be precise, the one saying they are from Microsoft would be lying. If they say the have purchased a list of errors from Microsof...
[19:46:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] 02Re:And whats wrong about this? - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 1576 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:46:36] <exec> 08└─>:And whats wrong about this? You want the list? OK, here we go: 1 - It complicates healthcare provision. Do you really want to be fishing around in your pocket for ID in order to get your arms sewn back on? What if you don't happen to have your passport on you the day you get savaged by a rabid bad...
[19:46:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Wooosh! - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 382 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:46:43] <exec> 08└─Illegals bring in all kinds of exciting exotic diseases which would otherwise not be there -- like whooping cough, drug-resistant tuberculosis, Leprosy, Dengue Fever, to name a few! You sound like one of those liberal White girls with an upper middle-class upbringing who graduates from Womens' Studi...
[19:46:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Wooosh! - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:46:45] <exec> 08└─Nigel Farage said that foreigners bring AIDS into the country, and in doing so put a burden on the NHS. He said this during the Brexit referendum campaign.
[19:46:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:2) 02Re:Easy enough - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:46:52] <exec> 08└─Figures click bait BS article then. If that is the case then make people show the card, problem solved.
[19:46:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Easy enough - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:46:54] <exec> 08└─The real story is that the right-wing media that got us to Brexit on the back of xenophobia are ratcheting up the hate. That's why it's in the news.
[19:46:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:Uhhhh - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 433 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:46:59] <exec> 08└─As others have pointed out, the costs of treating people not entitled to NHS treatment are a minor number in the NHS accounts. While the number seems high, when spread over all the treatment events administered by the NHS, it is not particularly material. It is, on the other hand, a good stalking ho...
[19:47:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This could be huge! - 06Researchers Find Potential Therapy for Brain Swelling During Concussion - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:47:28] <exec> 08└─ctrl f "blind": fail dynamite plots*: fail *http://biostat.mc.vanderbilt.edu/twiki/pub/Main/TatsukiRcode/Poster3.pdf
[19:48:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Incorrect - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:25] <exec> 08└─Yes, that's correct, but they also connect can also connect machines within a single network.
[19:48:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03quacking duck [1395] (Score:2) 02Re:Apple doesn't make shit anymore - correct! - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:31] <exec> 08└─Apple has pretty much abandoned the server market, they may be abandoning the true professional market, so their tools in those areas might not be up to snuff. Never mind that you don't need that level of IT management in normal households, which is what the AC was talking about maintaining.
[19:48:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03quacking duck [1395] (Score:2) 02Re:More money than God - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:48] <exec> 08└─Yup. I've been saying for awhile now that the beancounters have taken over Apple. Hell, Tim Cook might be one himself.
[19:49:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Auditing the software - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 811 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:49:20] <exec> 08└─Contrast the skills required to [verify paper ballots vs] the expertise required to audit a complex piece of software to ensure that it does exactly what it claims I have been meaning to submit this story but haven't found the time to investigate more thoroughly and write it up: Bev Harris of BlackB...
[19:49:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''optical scanners'' - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 564 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:49:23] <exec> 08└─I have seen and heard reports of ballot scanners giving different results when the SAME ballots are run through multiple times. The touchscreens also require "calibration" and have repeatedly been reported not doing what was expected afterwards. Dump the machines. The soonest that the results will t...
[19:49:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''Hillary [is] less authoritarian than [Trump]'' - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 1698 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:49:33] <exec> 08└─Danish foreign minister Kristian Jensen says Trump "changes opinions like the rest of us change underwear". [counterpunch.org] As an example, Trump flip-flopped on minimum wage 3 times in 3 days. [motherjones.com] Trump has no core values except greed and narcissistic self-promotion. So, it's diffic...
[19:49:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03number11 [1170] (Score:2) 02Re:''could [...] scrap entire precincts'' - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 579 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:49:40] <exec> 08└─I believe that most of the fraud that took place was perfectly legal. Finding ways to prevent people from voting, fake news, the FBI messing with people's minds, etc. Was that enough to throw the election? I don't know. Hillary was a candidate who had been demonized by the right for 20 years, and ev...
[19:50:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02Re:Why is large profit needed? - 06World Anti-Venom Supplies Are Low - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:50:53] <exec> 08└─"I was surprised to learn that the insurance companies had essentially divided up the states amongst themselves." And Obama signed off on it, knowing what it was, and not caring.
[19:55:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Enders game was about children - 06Book Review: "Black Bead" - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:55:48] <exec> 08└─A children's book IMO is one that only appeals to children (e.g., "Horton Hears a Who").
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[20:45:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:When the Nobel committee comes calling? - 06How Old is Too Old to Be Brilliant? - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:08] <exec> 08└─Their intellectual achievement is especially astonishing, given their proclivity to cut up their own sons' sexual organs in mindless deference to barbaric relio-cultural blood rituals.
[20:45:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Non sequitur - 06How Old is Too Old to Be Brilliant? - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:19] <exec> 08└─What does a Nobel prize have to do with brilliance? Nothing at all, apparently. Perhaps I will win an Oscar for this statement.
[20:45:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is it illegal? - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:51] <exec> 08└─Don't like your options? You are free the write your own. You may not be as talented as an autistic Chinaman but that hasn't stopped you before, has it?
[20:45:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Data is an Asset - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:56] <exec> 08└─NSFW
[20:46:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Had to. - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:05] <exec> 08└─https://i.imgur.com/3wssnRc.jpg [imgur.com]
[20:46:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:2) 02Re:Easy enough - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:46] <exec> 08└─Yes had realized that once I knew of the totally simple solution available. The forces of darkness are everywhere just waiting in the wings to swoop down. Add in Orwell was just about thirty years early on his bleak outlook of what man was to become we are all in for interesting times ahead...
[20:48:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Incorrect - 06Apple Abandons Development of Wireless Routers - 398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:48:16] <exec> 08└─In what sense though? If you mean the 'switch' part of (most) routers then sure, but that is bypassing the routing capability; and has as much to do with being a router as the wireless access point does: nothing. Plus the switch part isn't necessary for it to be a router. For example it would be pos...
[20:49:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Can you be the slightest bit specific? - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 1776 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:49:29] <exec> 08└─Maybe [Democrats] are afraid of their own campaign fraud Link? (Do make an effort to avoid Breitbart and FauxNews.) Here, I'll give you an example: In 2003, Walden O'Dell, the CEO of Diebold (a Republican and an Ohio elections official) made the vow that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its...
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[21:45:10] <exec> 08└─What I find morbidly fascinating about the practice is that for vaccines, which are by and large an amazingly positive achievement, there is a fund one can claim compensation from if one does have some kind of adverse reaction. Nothing's prefect, and such a fund makes sense. With ritual male genital...
[21:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Non sequitur - 06How Old is Too Old to Be Brilliant? - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:45:23] <exec> 08└─Well, it is sad when revered institutions ultimately succumb to their own entropy and start to reek. Carter was probably a good recipient, but boy has the bar been lowered to include Obama.
[21:45:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Is it illegal? - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:45:57] <exec> 08└─Meh. Probably just resign myself to gutting and rearranging an existing distro, then imaging. Why code or roll from scratch when I could use relics from back when Linux devs got things right?
[21:46:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Anyone surprised? - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 440 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:46:06] <exec> 08└─Any US company can be strong-armed by their government. The only thing they can do to protect you is let you protect your data with your own key (this obviously won't work for Google), or not store any data at all. I think this is okay as long as the users know it going in, as it's a trade. The comp...
[21:46:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Anyone surprised? - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:46:08] <exec> 08└─i.e. AT&T. Good luck making that illegal (it's already unconstitutional and the third party doctrine is unworkable bullshit in the 21st century) when the same government that would have to make the practice illegal also wants the data.
[21:46:24] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] 02Re:Easy - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 1917 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:46:24] <exec> 08└─> No, the tory party are destroying the NHS by trying to privatize it. Slight correction: The tories are trying to destroy the NHS IN ORDER to privatise it: They slash funding (while shuffling the figures and claiming to be investing), overwork the staff, attack their morale and impose all sorts of...
[21:46:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Easy - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:46:27] <exec> 08└─>Why anyone would choose to go into Nursing in the current environment boggles me. It shows that John Nash's game theory is bullshit and that humans are altruistic. Praise to those people who choose that career. I've always found these comments interesting as they are uttered by people through a ser...
[21:46:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wooosh! - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:46:47] <exec> 08└─> Illegals bring in all kinds of exciting exotic diseases which would otherwise not be there As if no tourist has ever brought an infection with them into the country. But regardless of how the disease got there, refusing to treat it only makes it spread. > You sound like one of those liberal White...
[21:46:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Uhhhh - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:46:59] <exec> 08└─If you pay tax and/or National Insurance to the UK authorities, despite living outside the UK
[21:49:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Elector fraud - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:49:10] <exec> 08└─Their job is to vote for the next president, according to their own conscience. [...] If they don't get to exercise some level of discretion in their voting, why have them at all?
[21:49:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nollij [4559] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh Joy - 06Computer Scientists Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results; Electors Rebelling - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:49:13] <exec> 08└─You are thinking of Walden O'Dell [wikipedia.org]. While the concern is legitimate, it wasn't the smoking gun that many remember.
[21:53:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:A good sign - 06The Emergence of False News - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:53:01] <exec> 08└─The Republican Party has a platform to: https://gop.com [gop.com] It carries the disclaimer "Not Authorized By Any Candidate Or Candidate's Committee."
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[22:44:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Solution is obvious but impossible - 06 Cheating at the Olympics Is at Epic Levels - 662 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:57] <exec> 08└─Stop testing. Stop expanding the list of banned substances and forcing an arms race. Just stop pretending that you can stop doping in professional sports, which is what the Olympics are now. When there are millions of dollars riding on who wins, it is professional. Why is it legit to spend millions...
[22:44:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Solution is obvious but impossible - 06 Cheating at the Olympics Is at Epic Levels - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:44:59] <exec> 08└─But, jmorris, without an ever-expanding list of proscribed drugs, the American people won't get their ration of Russia-hating. We want our children to grow up strong and healthy, don't we? They've got to get in some Russia-hating!
[22:45:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02High School - 06 Cheating at the Olympics Is at Epic Levels - 1175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:45:01] <exec> 08└─'Roid use was prevalent even in high school, at least my high school. Steroids were easily procured from Mexico since my high school was on a border town, and my high school had a no drug-testing policy (it made their students sign a bullshit statement but never went beyond that). As a result our fo...
[22:45:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:When the Nobel committee comes calling? - 06How Old is Too Old to Be Brilliant? - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:45:19] <exec> 08└─Nothing's prefect
[22:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Non sequitur - 06How Old is Too Old to Be Brilliant? - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:45:32] <exec> 08└─Carter? WTF did Carter do?
[22:45:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Non sequitur - 06How Old is Too Old to Be Brilliant? - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:45:34] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter_Center#Advancing_human_rights [wikipedia.org]
[22:45:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Non sequitur - 06How Old is Too Old to Be Brilliant? - 506 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:45:36] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter#Carter_Center_and_Nobel_Prize [wikipedia.org] After his presidency he created the Carter Center, which did a great deal of good around the world on eradication of diseases among other things. This work has had major long term consequences of the kind that d...
[22:45:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Non sequitur - 06How Old is Too Old to Be Brilliant? - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:45:38] <exec> 08└─The Nobel Peace Prize is not awarded for Brilliance, you moran! We are talking science here. Besides, Obama didn't get a Peace Prize, it is more like George W. Bush lost one. Odds are good for whoever follows Drumpf.
[22:46:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Webweasel [567] (Score:2) 02Re:Is it illegal? - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:04] <exec> 08└─I hope this is true, the ONLY reason I stay on windows in my home is that I'm a gamer. I touch linux on and off over the years, as well as BSD and other os's (AIX at work) but linux always hits a "something don't work like it should" barrier for me. Work is a mostly windows environment. But the PHB...
[22:46:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is anyone *actually* surprised? - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 531 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:13] <exec> 08└─Because there are people not yet jaded enough to disbelieve everything that comes from Microsoft, even a lot of techie nerds bought into the idea that telemetry was about finding bugs and making software better. It has a valid use, but the process is inherently invasive. When put forth by Microsoft...
[22:46:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is anyone *actually* surprised? - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:16] <exec> 08└─When there are "a few bad apples" being noticed every day, and the so-called good apples are covering up for the bad ones, maybe the whole bunch is rotten.
[22:46:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Webweasel [567] 02Re:Easy - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 184 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:44] <exec> 08└─It has survived this far, long may it continue. It's also worth noting that despite years of this kind of abuse, the NHS still provides a world class service with outstanding results.
[22:46:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Appalling - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 596 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:52] <exec> 08└─In addition to what the others said in reply, it's important to realise that (a) the 'problem' is a tiny fraction of the overall cost of the system (b) that there are far more serious problems, specifically the lack of funding from government, that need to be solved by...er... increasing funding (c)...
[22:46:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03theluggage [1797] 02Unfortunately, we need some sort of ID system - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 1681 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:54] <exec> 08└─Stupid situation... Nobody trusts government to implement an ID card system without turning it into Big Brother, letting hackers walk off with the data or simply creating yet another massive government IT project SNAFU. On the other hand, we need such a system. There are occasions on which we need t...
[22:46:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Re:Unfortunately, we need some sort of ID system - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:59] <exec> 08└─First you worried about criminals putting money into bank accounts
[22:47:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Webweasel [567] (Score:2) 02Re:And whats wrong about this? - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:10] <exec> 08└─3 - People determined to abuse the system will find a way round it anyway. This leads to an escalating arms-race of byzantine methods of screening vs illegal workarounds to the point where legitimate users can't access the system at all. For an example, try claiming working tax credit or disability...
[22:50:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ministry, anyone? - 06Adobe Voco 'Photoshop-for-Voice' Causes Concern - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:50:51] <exec> 08└─Dude, this tool is meant for voice edition not mind reading.
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[23:44:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Solution is obvious but impossible - 06 Cheating at the Olympics Is at Epic Levels - 396 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:44:59] <exec> 08└─Why is it legit to spend millions on computer modeling to create the perfect training program, hire experts to work out the perfect nutrition, expect athletes to work full time on training (while pretending they aren't 'professional') and even spend sick amounts of mony on the best science can deliv...
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[23:45:01] <exec> 08└─Yes. Gladitorial blood sports are entertaining even when it's not fair. See the slaughter of animals or Emperor Commodus grandstanding at the Colosseum.
[23:45:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02So stop ... - 06 Cheating at the Olympics Is at Epic Levels - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:04] <exec> 08└─Just stop holding the phony Olympics. As pointed out above, it's nothing but a giant pro sports event. It persist only because people are making vast fortunes on it. So why bother?
[23:45:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:When the Nobel committee comes calling? - 06How Old is Too Old to Be Brilliant? - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:24] <exec> 08└─Nothing's prefect I need to print this as a motivational wall-scroll :D
[23:45:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The myth is even stronger in mathematics - 06How Old is Too Old to Be Brilliant? - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:27] <exec> 08└─So they should stop giving the Fields Medal [wikipedia.org], or revoke the condition of being under 40 for receiving it.
[23:45:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Non sequitur - 06How Old is Too Old to Be Brilliant? - 482 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:43] <exec> 08└─It's not brilliance, it's politics. You get a person who singlehandedly solves the energy problem with safe affordable fusion or some shit, but then it is revealed that the person who potentially saved humanity once confided in another person that "A Mexican on the bus stank" when they were 19 years...
[23:45:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02young blood - 06How Old is Too Old to Be Brilliant? - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:44] <exec> 08└─Don't trust anyone over 30.
[23:46:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] 02Here's what I've done - 06Microsoft Gives Third-Parties Access to Windows 10 Telemetry Data - 1816 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:32] <exec> 08└─I use almost exclusively Linux, though I have a windows laptop for my work. Even on that I primarily do development within a CentOS VM in VM Workstation Player. That aside, when I updated from Windows 8 to 10 I knew it was doing insane shit around all this "telemetry" just based on that enless hard...
[23:47:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wooosh! - 06NHS Patients Could be Forced to Show Passports in Crackdown on Foreign Users - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:47:14] <exec> 08└─Illegals bring in all kinds of exciting exotic diseases which would otherwise not be there -- like whooping cough, drug-resistant tuberculosis, Leprosy, Dengue Fever, to name a few!
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