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[00:44:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Maybe turn it into an income stream? - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 453 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:44:47] <exec> 08└─I mean, if their rehabilitation is so good that they are closing prisoners down. Why not offer to lease out the prisons to neighbouring countries which have a bigger prison problem? Perhaps even offer the same rehabilitation as a service? I can't see how rehabilitating other prisoners from Europe wo...
[00:44:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe turn it into an income stream? - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:44:48] <exec> 08└─Why not offer to lease out the prisons to neighbouring countries
[00:44:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe turn it into an income stream? - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:44:50] <exec> 08└─Across the sea, shares of CoreCivic Inc., formerly Corrections Corp. of America, which operates private prisons, were the "best performer on the NYSE" on Wednesday. https://finance.yahoo.com [yahoo.com]
[00:44:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03r1348 [5988] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe turn it into an income stream? - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:44:52] <exec> 08└─Because there are 42 languages with more than one million speakers in Europe.
[00:44:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe turn it into an income stream? - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:44:55] <exec> 08└─According to the article, they rent one of their prisons to Norway.
[00:44:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Maybe turn it into an income stream? - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 1728 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:44:57] <exec> 08└─Well - the thing is, the US and UK view prisons as an income. In the US especially, we have contracted with prisons to keep their beds filled. We lock people up for minor offenses - a month first time, six months next time, a year of prison next time around, then five years. Most of these clowns who...
[00:45:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Linux - 06DDOS Attack Halts Heating in Finland Amidst Winter - 1002 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:45:18] <exec> 08└─Oh, really? My view is, Linux is just another Unix-like. It happens to be my favorite Unix-like, but let's not get all puffed up over it. Any Unix-like with a decent copy-left attached to it, you've got a good system. BSD's licensing scheme often seems a little inferior to that of Linux, but then, B...
[00:45:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Linux - 06DDOS Attack Halts Heating in Finland Amidst Winter - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:45:20] <exec> 08└─If it's not Linux, it's shit!
[00:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Should have used a fucking firewall. - 06DDOS Attack Halts Heating in Finland Amidst Winter - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:45:24] <exec> 08└─but that computer most certainly does NOT need internet access.
[00:45:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:"late October to Thursday the 3rd of November" - 06DDOS Attack Halts Heating in Finland Amidst Winter - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:45:31] <exec> 08└─The Gulf Stream causes Finland's climate to be warmer than other parts of the world at similar latitudes.
[00:45:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:Do we still have hiss? - 06How the 18th-Century Steam Engine Helped Physicists Make a Quantum Breakthrough - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:45:43] <exec> 08└─Makes turning up the volume in the absence of signal a little more scary. In the digital domain it it possible to eliminate the noise entirely. However, if you turn the analogue parts of your sound system up enough, you will probably hear some noise.
[00:46:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:knowing - 06Major Ocean Current is Widening as Climate Warms - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:46:13] <exec> 08└─> No Knowing' is a discussion killer - unless you mock it.
[00:47:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03RedGreen [888] 02Re:Ass backwards - 06Tech Philanthropists Are Giving Away Billions - 975 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:47:11] <exec> 08└─"Instead of taking *all* of the money then throwing some scraps back, how about working for a fair and equitable society where everyone can make a living?" Indeed but that makes sense so will never happen also plus it eliminates the egomaniacs factor whereby the mostly undeserving praise heaped upon...
[00:47:12] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:Ass backwards - 06Tech Philanthropists Are Giving Away Billions - 1506 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:47:12] <exec> 08└─Because in a society where everybody can make a decent living, it's too easy for the employees to tell the boss to Take This Job and Shove It [youtube.com], which makes things much more annoying for a boss who wants everyone to work 85+ hours per week while paying for 40 hours per week (this is what...
[00:48:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02seepage and evaporation - 06USU Center for Colorado River Studies Weighs in on 'Fill Mead First' Plan - 723 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:48:23] <exec> 08└─The Glen Canyon Institute, an NGO which advocates draining Lake Powell, commissioned a study which found that much more water seeps out of Lake Powell than out of Lake Mead, due to the porous nature of the sandstone at the former. They also imply that evaporation would be less if Lake Powell were dr...
[00:50:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03oakgrove [5864] (Score:1) 02Re:Actually... - 06Trump Tapped the Viral Anger Over H-1B Use - 506 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:50:40] <exec> 08└─Here's the thing, AmiMoJo, between the party promising to bring back "Muh jerbs" and the party asserting I'm a racist/bigot/homophobe/xenophobe for the mere fact of my existing on this earth as a "fucking white male", I think I'll vote for the jerbs. That's why Trump won. And if the left keeps up th...
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[01:44:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Maybe turn it into an income stream? - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:44:42] <exec> 08└─even easier, give someone a civil fine. If they can't pay it in 10 days, then give them a $2000 "administration and late" fee. Whoa... can't pay that in 15? Oh, we're sorry, you're already late anyways! Off to jail. oh, wait. There are areas in the US already doing this.
[01:44:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Cautious optimism called for here - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 709 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:44:44] <exec> 08└─This was a story in the media so there is propaganda involved. They weasel around coming out and admitting a big driver in falling crime rates is a police dept too overstressed to even take a report in many cases. And I'm sure they are getting their share of Mad Merkel's new 'Europeans' who will be...
[01:44:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Username [4557] (Score:2) 02Option to be refugees - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:44:46] <exec> 08└─We (the united states) should just offer prisoners a chance to leave the US for the Netherlands as refugees. Problem solved on both sides.
[01:44:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Option to be refugees - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 436 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:44:48] <exec> 08└─No, we the United States should ship all of our refugees and illegal aliens, including Mexicans, to the Nederlands. Win-Win. America is made great again and Europe intensifies their barreling trajectory towards their multicultural paradise. By the way, I really missed participating in the "Trump Won...
[01:44:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Solution - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:44:50] <exec> 08└─Import more muslims, the prisons will soon fill up.
[01:46:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:dont aim for that fly - 06Splash-Free Urinals? Scientists Investigate New 'Splash Avoidance' Technique - 6 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:46:22] <exec> 08└─danish
[01:47:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Who said the dinosaurs arrived suddenly? - 06Dinosaurs' Rise Was 'More Gradual,' New Fossil Evidence Suggests - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:47:23] <exec> 08└─There's the asteroid theory.
[01:48:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:No free lunch - 06USU Center for Colorado River Studies Weighs in on 'Fill Mead First' Plan - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:48:09] <exec> 08└─datapharmer> What about the numerous species that went extinct bradley13> Endangered species? [nps.gov] Let's look at the list. extinct ≠ endangered
[01:50:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Remember, PowerPC is not POWER - 06Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" will Drop Support for PowerPC - 877 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:50:05] <exec> 08└─You're right, but of those the only one that isn't from 2006 is the Wii U and they're also not the usual sort of targets for installing Debian, so the gist of my comment is still accurate enough. Especially since I don't believe any of them use bog-standard PPC processors, though the Wii/Wii U are p...
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[02:44:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Zerg rush - 06Samsung's Biotech Unit Debuts in Seoul - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:44:40] <exec> 08└─Finally someone is engineering Infested Terrans.
[02:44:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Biobombs? - 06Samsung's Biotech Unit Debuts in Seoul - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:44:41] <exec> 08└─Zerg rush and then they go into biobomb mode? OMG! KEKEKEKE!
[02:44:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondoctor [2963] (Score:1) 02Re:Cautious optimism called for here - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 820 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:44:57] <exec> 08└─>This was a story in the media so there is propaganda involved Goddamn this election fucked some people up... Sad to think that the idea of this just being plain old fashioned journalism (reporting the truth to the best of your ability) is mind blowing. Pro-tip: If you doubt a story in the 'media' g...
[02:44:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:0, Flamebait) 02Re:Cautious optimism called for here - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 1759 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:44:58] <exec> 08└─I doubt it's "stress" and believe it's political pressure where the officers are actually being punished for putting their lives at risk to apprehend immigrants savage beyond their imagination. The objective is to induce learned helplessness into the population as a means of removing all power the p...
[02:45:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondoctor [2963] (Score:1) 02Re:Option to be refugees - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:45:02] <exec> 08└─Dear Sir/Madam, Your mastery of the inflammatory/ambiguously sarcastic troll is beauty to behold. My hat is off to you. More to the point: yeah better to have people from all viewpoints talking, the echo chamber does nobody any good. Nothing will get better til the screaming stops, and we all agree...
[02:45:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Username [4557] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Option to be refugees - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:45:04] <exec> 08└─Nah, I cannot agree with shipping all refugees and aliens, we need to keep the intelligent, hard working, non islamic ones. That why it’s best to start off with prisoners. Very doubtful someone with a life sentence can benefits our society. Just need to give them a sappy tune like, "I’m scared T...
[02:45:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Option to be refugees - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 604 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:45:07] <exec> 08└─You have a point. Actually, we could do goodwill swaps of prisoners with European countries, kinda like how Americans do the "sister cities" thing with other cities worldwide. We could give Norway Mumia Abu-Jamal [wikipedia.org] in exchange for Anders Brevik - a classic Win-Win situation. Mumia gets...
[02:47:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Pocket change vs. $55 trillion over next 25 years - 06Tech Philanthropists Are Giving Away Billions - 840 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:47:32] <exec> 08└─https://www.opendemocracy.net/article/globalisation/philanthropy_on_the_commons [opendemocracy.net] "At the end of his essay - and in his accompanying book, Just Another Emperor: the Myths and Realities of Philanthrocapitalism (Demos/Young Foundation, 2008) - Michael Edwards asks what he calls the $...
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[03:44:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02A white hat bunch of hackers would do - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 549 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:44:39] <exec> 08└─They could find all the vulnerable devices, change the network settings and the default password. Device is effectively bricked, gets sent in to warranty repair, offending company goes bankrupt, and problem solved. Of course, anyone doing this is breaking federal law. As are the black hat hackers, b...
[03:44:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:A white hat bunch of hackers would do - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:44:40] <exec> 08└─I prefer the old-skool approach - I'll walk the 12 steps down the hall and turn the knob myself. Anybody who allows their home to be a digital disease vector deserves what they get.
[03:44:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02What could possibly go wrong? - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:44:43] <exec> 08└─Concerning the "Internet of Things", I can understand looking for a solution for the myriad of problems in government regulation. The track record of the War on Poverty, War on Drugs, the high regard for the Rule of Law, and the careful respect given to individual rights all speak volumes.
[03:44:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What could possibly go wrong? - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:44:45] <exec> 08└─Remember NT4 was DoD certified at one point. Let that sit and gel in your mind for a bit.
[03:44:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Oops, too bad your reputation is toasted - 06Samsung's Biotech Unit Debuts in Seoul - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:44:55] <exec> 08└─What's the biological equivalent to a cell phone spontaneously combusting? A Samsung drug acting as fertilizer to stuff you don't want growing inside you? IMHO, until Samsung gets it's shit together I have no desire to be a guinea pig, be it washing machines, cell phones, or drugs.
[03:44:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oops, too bad your reputation is toasted - 06Samsung's Biotech Unit Debuts in Seoul - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:44:57] <exec> 08└─What's the biological equivalent to a cell phone spontaneously combusting? A Samsung drug acting as fertilizer to stuff you don't want growing inside you?
[03:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cautious optimism called for here - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:45:16] <exec> 08└─I doubt it's "stress" and believe it's political pressure where the officers are actually being punished for putting their lives at risk to apprehend immigrants savage beyond their imagination.
[03:45:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Cautious optimism called for here - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:45:17] <exec> 08└─You're using a misdirection. Go arrest Islamic immigrants with a criminal record or who have demonstrated criminal behavior and make that public. Make public the arrest record. What, you can't? Well, Merkel has you by the balls, then. Your proposition cannot happen because it will be stopped in the...
[03:45:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Prisons and Toll Booths - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:45:25] <exec> 08└─Tear them down so the next administration doesn't use them.
[03:48:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Snowcrash - 06Chirp! Let's Hear It for Data Over Audio - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:48:18] <exec> 08└─always-on was oddly touted as a feature
[03:48:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Another Attack Vector - 06Chirp! Let's Hear It for Data Over Audio - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:48:34] <exec> 08└─Yadda yadda, bunch of stuff that actually does NOT exist, bla bla...
[03:50:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not too surprising - 06Software Vendor MYOB Encourages Users to Upgrade Microsoft Software - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:50:30] <exec> 08└─Additionally, they require you to run the application with an account with local administrator rights. Not exactly the pinnacle of engineering...
[03:50:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I use a powerbook g4 with debian - 06Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" will Drop Support for PowerPC - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:50:51] <exec> 08└─Design, bitches!
[03:52:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02Re:Actually... - 06Trump Tapped the Viral Anger Over H-1B Use - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:52:02] <exec> 08└─Unless you're a woman, then it can be quite profitable.
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[04:44:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02IOT regulation? - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 629 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:44:42] <exec> 08└─Let's start with BCP 38 mmm Kay? And then some consensus around tcp port 25 to help mitigate spam. And then, and only once we've done the above, let's think about regulating the internet. Also, do you really want our current, DUMBER THAN DOG SHIT politicians to even mess with the internet? All of th...
[04:44:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02IoT ignores BCP38, SMTP mostly solved - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 839 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:44:44] <exec> 08└─The IoT zombies seem to be "ignoring" BCP38, they use their real IPs, they would not be affected antispoofing measures. The numbers are so high they don't need to play magnification or spoofing games, they just attack as massive horde. SMTP seems also fixed, just only accept mails starting or going...
[04:45:07] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Re:Maybe turn it into an income stream? - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 1728 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:45:07] <exec> 08└─Well - the thing is, the US and UK view prisons as an income. In the US especially, we have contracted with prisons to keep their beds filled. We lock people up for minor offenses - a month first time, six months next time, a year of prison next time around, then five years. Most of these clowns who...
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[04:45:09] <exec> 08└─160 hours? I'd tell the judge to send me to jail. Jail is nice. You get a bed, three meals a day, and all the books you can read. If you like to play spades, chess, rummy, work out or rap you'll have plenty to do.
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[04:48:32] <exec> 08└─Privacy advocates are warning federal authorities of a new threat that uses inaudible, high-frequency sounds to surreptitiously track a person's online behavior across a range of devices, including phones, TVs, tablets, and computers. The ultrasonic pitches are embedded into TV commercials or are pl...
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[04:50:08] <exec> 08└─>Tom Taylor was killed in an explosion >died from smoke inhalation So not only did he not go out with a bang, he might not have died at all had he remembered to crawl along the ground and/or limit his breathing. I can't think of many scenarios where he would have been forced to inhale smoke, barring...
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[05:44:47] <exec> 08└─Remember when Linux was missing features that existed in NT4 for years? Like KUSER_SHARED_DATA which NT4 had in 1993, but it took until 2001 for Linux to get vsyscall because Linux dweebs were in pathological denial about the usefulness of mapping kernel memory into userspace to avoid the overhead o...
[05:44:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Technical Problems - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:44:50] <exec> 08└─A technical problem can never be fixed by government decree. Incidentally, everything in life is a technical problem.
[05:44:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Make it worse, not better - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 1075 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:44:52] <exec> 08└─Getting government involved in this is straightforward idiotic. Even if they somehow, in some intelligible, enforceable and identifiable way require good security practices (hah!) that actually are followed by manufacturers (double hah!) and are generally effective (and I'd like a pony and a blowjob...
[05:45:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:Oops, too bad your reputation is toasted - 06Samsung's Biotech Unit Debuts in Seoul - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:45:03] <exec> 08└─Zombies kill off the slow moving and the stupid; eg the old, the infirm, the too drunk to run crowd, the "lets stand here in the middle of nowhere with zillions of zombies and we have masonry trowels". Zombies fill a positive ecological niche, if they catch you we're better off without you.
[05:45:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fast zombies - 06Samsung's Biotech Unit Debuts in Seoul - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:45:04] <exec> 08└─Unless they are from the "fast zombies" style (I am legend, World War Z, Resident Evil and such... OK, Legend one is vampires, but still), then everyone is fucked.
[05:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Maybe turn it into an income stream? - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:45:20] <exec> 08└─also plenty to do if you like the cock
[05:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Option to be refugees - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:45:32] <exec> 08└─This is a work of art, Eth :) I don't know whether you believe half the shit that spews from your front-mounted diarrhea launcher, and I don't care; there is artistry here. Granted it's basically fecal fingerpainting, but you do it so well, like those street artists who make space scenes using spray...
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[06:44:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Linux makes me Hard - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:44:35] <exec> 08└─Just thinking about penguins pecking my nuts makes my pecker rigid.
[06:44:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Or you could stop fucking. - 06New Therapeutic Vaccine Approach Holds Promise for HIV Remission - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:44:42] <exec> 08└─Have you considered NOT fucking? We know how HIV is transmitted. By fucking. Hey I know. Let's outlaw fucking-while-infected and fucking kill the criminals who fuck-while-infected. HIV is a problem, and I got a solution. TOTAL GENOCIDE
[06:44:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Or you could stop fucking. - 06New Therapeutic Vaccine Approach Holds Promise for HIV Remission - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:44:44] <exec> 08└─HIV is transmitted by cell-to-cell contact, fucking is one way of implementing that.
[06:44:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Or you could stop fucking. - 06New Therapeutic Vaccine Approach Holds Promise for HIV Remission - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:44:46] <exec> 08└─Transmitting HIV should be punishable by death, period.
[06:44:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Or you could stop fucking. - 06New Therapeutic Vaccine Approach Holds Promise for HIV Remission - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:44:49] <exec> 08└─I would wait until the human genome has been fully sequenced before declaring such things.
[06:44:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:A white hat bunch of hackers would do - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:44:59] <exec> 08└─Then you will be in violation of the new lifestyle. A modern man is supposed to be a couch potato, and walking 12 steps down the hall to do something is anathema. It started with the TV remote controls, I guess... and today some people can work whole day without leaving the bed. Just wait for adopti...
[06:45:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:A white hat bunch of hackers would do - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:45:01] <exec> 08└─Except *we* get what they deserve. Thus the problem...
[06:45:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Government regulation is the only way - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 2095 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:45:10] <exec> 08└─As much as this place seems to be a den of libertarian diehards I think it has to be said that this is one of the situations where government regulation really is the only viable solution. Even some libertarian theorists recognise that market failure of this kind is one of the only places where gove...
[06:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Open the code or suffer standard product liability - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 666 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:45:12] <exec> 08└─Dan Geer and Poul-Henning Kamp have both spoken and written about how to use product liability to address this Internet-of-Things-That-Cannot-Be-Patched. It's really quite straightforward to give the vendors a choice: to provide the complete source code under an OSS license or else to comply with st...
[06:45:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Username [4557] (Score:2) 02Re:Option to be refugees - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:45:52] <exec> 08└─IDK about moderate rebel Breivik, but I could see doing it for Assange.
[06:45:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Ideas won't export easily - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 1134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:45:55] <exec> 08└─The cultural environment is massively different between, say, Utrecht and the south side of Chicago. Also, the character of the people as well. I'm happy it's working for the dutch. Good for them. But trying to extrapolate existing results in a (surprisingly) disciplined culture in a small country w...
[06:46:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Berg Patrol Tax $5 ? - 06Iceberg Patrol Gains Faster Updates from Orbit - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:46:04] <exec> 08└─This is an outrage!
[06:46:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score:2) 02Re:Should have used a fucking firewall. - 06DDOS Attack Halts Heating in Finland Amidst Winter - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:46:20] <exec> 08└─If it is cloud base in an way. Through it a way. It will fail to protect the residents VERY TIME
[06:48:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score:2) 02what if - 06Tech Philanthropists Are Giving Away Billions - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:48:14] <exec> 08└─Yes, what if they just simply paid their fair share of their taxes?
[06:48:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Timeo danaos et dona ferentes - 06Tech Philanthropists Are Giving Away Billions - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:48:19] <exec> 08└─Sometimes I wonder why the "in kids" open their code projects to contributors at all. I have a project which I've worked on for many years, and the whole thing is open source, but all work is mine and I don't allow edits, because it's my project and I want to work alone.
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[07:44:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02Good luck. - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 424 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:44:47] <exec> 08└─If you have user access to the system, you can acquire root. Does anyone know of any way to do remote logging of login times, keystrokes, applications ran and what files they accessed like a total package of telemetry for each person logged into the Linux system? I've always wondered about this. Tot...
[07:44:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Good luck. - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:49] <exec> 08└─Sure thing, just install Windows 10.
[07:44:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02Re:Good luck. - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:51] <exec> 08└─I knew this was coming when I posted that... (sighs)
[07:44:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good luck. - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:53] <exec> 08└─That's what you get for advocating Linux spyware.
[07:44:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02Re:Good luck. - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:55] <exec> 08└─That's what you get for advocating Linux spyware.
[07:45:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Or you could stop fucking. - 06New Therapeutic Vaccine Approach Holds Promise for HIV Remission - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:06] <exec> 08└─The human genome was fully sequenced 13 years ago. You are too dumb to live. You die now.
[07:45:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Or you could stop fucking. - 06New Therapeutic Vaccine Approach Holds Promise for HIV Remission - 660 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:07] <exec> 08└─A quick search got me this, can you get something more recent than 2011 that disagrees (emphasis mine)? Eukaryotic genomes contain millions of copies of transposable elements (TE) and other repetitive sequences. Indeed, approximately half of the sequence content of typical mammalian genomes tends to...
[07:45:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Or you could stop fucking. - 06New Therapeutic Vaccine Approach Holds Promise for HIV Remission - 839 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:09] <exec> 08└─I hope you will still read this: Repetitive DNA sequences are abundant in a broad range of species, from bacteria to mammals, and they cover nearly half of the human genome. Repeats have always presented technical challenges for sequence alignment and assembly programs. Next-generation sequencing pr...
[07:45:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:IoT ignores BCP38, SMTP mostly solved - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:25] <exec> 08└─Oh of course, this one attack doesn't use packets with source addresses. Therefore, no need for BCP38? You are a fucking imbecile. Get the fuck out. What else is needed is something like RTBH but taking out the entire /24 or /56 or /48.
[07:45:29] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03canopic jug [3949] 02Open the code or suffer standard product liability - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 666 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:45:30] <exec> 08└─Dan Geer and Poul-Henning Kamp have both spoken and written about how to use product liability to address this Internet-of-Things-That-Cannot-Be-Patched. It's really quite straightforward to give the vendors a choice: to provide the complete source code under an OSS license or else to comply with st...
[07:45:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Oops, too bad your reputation is toasted - 06Samsung's Biotech Unit Debuts in Seoul - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:43] <exec> 08└─What's the biological equivalent to a cell phone spontaneously combusting?
[07:47:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03TGV [2838] (Score:2) 02Sounds ok - 06Power Outage in the Brain may be Source of Alzheimer's - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:47:12] <exec> 08└─It's one of the few hypotheses that sounds acceptable on first hearing. It would still have to explain why memories would fade, given that they are most likely hard-coded in the synaptic path ways, why plaque forms, and that it's not the other way around (i.e. plaque triggers reduction in expression...
[07:49:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:ZX Spectrum - 06Chirp! Let's Hear It for Data Over Audio - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:49:07] <exec> 08└─I remember paying more for my first harddrive then I did for the computer I just bought my mother.
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[08:44:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Spam) 02i love shoving blackbirds into my anus - 06Three New Bird Species Discovered in Africa - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:44:37] <exec> 08└─Their struggling feels so good as they suffocate up my ass.
[08:44:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good luck. - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:44:50] <exec> 08└─Yeah dude, that's the same bullshit rationalization I told myself back in high school when I installed InvisibleOasis on the teacher's Mac Classic and key logged all his passwords. My high school didn't even have internet when I went there. That's how long I've been doing this shit, bitch. I'm old e...
[08:44:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good luck. - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:44:52] <exec> 08└─Well fuck me, I didn't believe it, but "Space Rogue's Whacked Mac Archives" is still online. I expected that sexless loser would have been long dead by now.
[08:44:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Remove systemd - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:44:54] <exec> 08└─A good first step.
[08:44:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Remove Linux - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:44:56] <exec> 08└─Second step. Linux is shit. You should use macOS.
[08:45:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02Re:What could possibly go wrong? - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 1564 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:45:24] <exec> 08└─The EPA made mistakes in its handling of the Flint water supply issue The FDA approved Vioxx at one time too. In the same way, a hypothetical government agency with the mandate to oversee the security of network connected devices will undoubtedly make mistakes just as big too. Government, like every...
[08:45:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03stormwyrm [717] 02Government regulation is the only way - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 2095 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:45:30] <exec> 08└─As much as this place seems to be a den of libertarian diehards I think it has to be said that this is one of the situations where government regulation really is the only viable solution. Even some libertarian theorists recognise that market failure of this kind is one of the only places where gove...
[08:45:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:Government regulation is the only way - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:45:32] <exec> 08└─Keep your laws away from my code. But liability laws should still apply for insecure devices.
[08:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:Open the code or suffer standard product liabil - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 820 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:45:35] <exec> 08└─I think this has to be a given, although I can't see the code being open as in FL/OSS so much as the vendors agreeing to open it up to an external audit without the code going public... because competitors. First of all though, we're going to need a framework with some kind of Energy Star type logo...
[08:45:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Warm up - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:45:37] <exec> 08└─This is just the warm up round for trying to enact legislation of a certain flavor regarding all internet connected devices... see, they are now a terrorist threat by disrupting internet "business".
[08:46:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Option to be refugees - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:46:19] <exec> 08└─I remember when Fidel shipped boatloads of criminals to the US of A, boy was that ever good for a laugh.
[08:46:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Publish Danish rape statistics - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:46:23] <exec> 08└─With the recent influx of migrants from the middle east and other muslim dominated lands rape convictions in the Netherlands has spiked. Show the world our rape problem. Jail does not fix this problem. Only castration.
[08:47:05] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03KilroySmith [2113] 02Re:Great idea in theory - 06How the 18th-Century Steam Engine Helped Physicists Make a Quantum Breakthrough - 1304 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:05] <exec> 08└─Depends. In many analog amplifier circuits, there are a sequence of amplifiers, each with a finite small gain, that combine to give the overall larger gain of the circuit. For example, in the product we build, there are roughly six stages of amplifiers with an average gain of 10 to go from the micro...
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[09:44:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03gringer [962] (Score:2) 02No common genes? Come on! - 06Three New Bird Species Discovered in Africa - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:44:38] <exec> 08└─similar African birds living in close proximity, but that are different species which share no common genes.
[09:44:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No common genes? Come on! - 06Three New Bird Species Discovered in Africa - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:44:39] <exec> 08└─I share 99% of the same genes as my food, but that doesn't stop me from devouring it. Eating is incestuous! Oh baby, so delicious.
[09:44:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02Re:Good luck. - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:44:55] <exec> 08└─Yeah dude, that's the same bullshit rationalization I told myself back in high school when I installed InvisibleOasis on the teacher's Mac Classic
[09:44:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good luck. - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:44:57] <exec> 08└─You had man pages? When I was single digits years old I was coding login prompts in Applesoft Basic with nothing but a book from the public library for the urban poor.
[09:44:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02Re:Good luck. - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:44:59] <exec> 08└─I give up.
[09:45:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Good luck. - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:45:01] <exec> 08└─If the users have no choice but to accept it, then it's still spying. The only way it is not spying is if the users themselves decide to allow you to collect that information, and can at any time revert that decision without negative consequences to themselves.
[09:45:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02Re:Good luck. - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:45:03] <exec> 08└─Max what we have here is a failure to communicate. I'm talking about running my own Linux machine, letting users log into it via ssh (telnet who gives a shit) with a prompt that says everything is logged. A user by definition is somone who is using, and if they don't want anymore data collected they...
[09:45:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good luck. - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:45:06] <exec> 08└─This is an interesting approach to the Fourth Amendment: pressure most everyone to agree, in advance, to waive their rights under it. - RMS
[09:45:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Good luck. - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:45:08] <exec> 08└─The default logging utility in Fedora, Debian and openSUSE has remote logging capability--try man rsyslogd. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[09:45:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02Re:Good luck. - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:45:10] <exec> 08└─syslog seems extremely limited... im not even sure it can send executed shell commands, let alone keystrokes. i'd like every key logged. even wish shell execution it would be trivial to write a program to get around the shell logging. need keystroke logging to be sure.
[09:45:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good luck. - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:45:12] <exec> 08└─Fuck you, man. You'll have zero users, and you'll deserve to have zero users.
[09:45:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Good luck. - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:45:14] <exec> 08└─Fuck you, man. You'll have zero users, and you'll deserve to have zero users.
[09:45:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Let the bloating of Linux continue! - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:45:18] <exec> 08└─Let the bloating of Linux continue! I remember when it was actually smaller than Windows. Throw in some more kernel features, pls!
[09:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03ticho [89] (Score:3, Insightful) 02So sad - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:45:21] <exec> 08└─Wow, this is one discussion thread where Soylent has completely failed to be useful, and did a full Slashdot, with nothing but primitive flamebait posts. With threads like these, I sometimes feel that five mod points just aren't enough, it's like trying to hold an ocean back with a broom.
[09:45:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So sad - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:45:23] <exec> 08└─Trolls be so proud.
[09:45:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03ticho [89] (Score:2) 02Re:Make it worse, not better - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:45:56] <exec> 08└─As as someone who lived through several enterprise-level security audits, where auditors barely understood what a computer is, and just went through their Excel checklists, parrotting line after line, I approve of the parent post.
[09:46:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe turn it into an income stream? - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 450 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:31] <exec> 08└─Getting caught with a joint was often the first "offense". The young jackass never should have been locked up - ticket the little jerk, and let him come to court to talk to the judge. "Young man, marijuana is illegal, and you've got to pay for having marijuana in your possession. You'll do 160 hours...
[09:49:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Been done - 06Chirp! Let's Hear It for Data Over Audio - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:49:59] <exec> 08└─Fixed and "de-mobilized" link: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
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[10:45:06] <exec> 08└─I am not aware of any packages that perform full user audit-trail logging. This [ekransystem.com] looks like it should give you names of players in this market (I've never used any of these products).
[10:45:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Technical Problems - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:45:48] <exec> 08└─Sunny Somalia awaits you.
[10:46:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe turn it into an income stream? - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 1220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:46:24] <exec> 08└─You are describing a debtor's prison system. Again, prison for profit. We need to drop the whole idea of anyone profiting from your screw ups. The "bad boys" need to pay back what they owe, but they don't go deeper and deeper into hell for failure to pay a fine, or whatever. At some point, most of t...
[10:46:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe turn it into an income stream? - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 642 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:46:27] <exec> 08└─But, it's not your option. It's SOCIETY'S option. No, we don't WANT your lazy ass in a prison cell, watching television all day. You are going down to the park this week, and put in 40 hours of hard manual labor, making the park pretty for our law-abiding citizens to enjoy. Next week, you'll be out...
[10:46:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe turn it into an income stream? - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:46:31] <exec> 08└─LOL - you've changed the focus a little bit, but we're on the same page. Laws are being passed all around this country, decriminalizing marijuana. I love that. It never made sense to pay cops to chase stupid kids who just want to "feel good". Stupid, stupid, stupid.
[10:47:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score:2) 02Stabilising bias current? - 06How the 18th-Century Steam Engine Helped Physicists Make a Quantum Breakthrough - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:47:33] <exec> 08└─Does this mean they modulate the bias current to keep it stable, or to track the signal amplitude? Both of these have been done in opamps since before 1970! I suspect the techniques date back to valve amps during WW2. Possibly even earlier. I presume this is the subject of a US patent.
[10:47:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Pre-registered? - 06Power Outage in the Brain may be Source of Alzheimer's - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:47:45] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure what you're on about. They formed a hypothesis and tested it. The data said "not so fast", so they now have a new hypothesis that is consistent with the new data. As long as they then refine and test their new hypothesis, it's science at it's best.
[10:48:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Solved problem - lorries' mudflaps - 06Splash-Free Urinals? Scientists Investigate New 'Splash Avoidance' Technique - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:48:43] <exec> 08└─Not so much. Human hair, we have been trying to cover rather than let get wet. Animal hair normally has oils to remain dry, and splashing off directly is a superior way of staying dry compared to having multiply internal bounces and capilliary action sucking the water into the body.
[10:49:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Ass backwards - 06Tech Philanthropists Are Giving Away Billions - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:49:10] <exec> 08└─Instead of taking *all* of the money then throwing some scraps back, how about working for a fair and equitable society where everyone can make a living?
[10:49:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Timeo danaos et dona ferentes - 06Tech Philanthropists Are Giving Away Billions - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:49:18] <exec> 08└─My view on this. We don't care if rich people go to a heaven which probably doesn't exist. And showboating good works for status signalling can actually make things better for people now. Hypocrisy made into a modest virtue.
[10:49:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Pocket change vs. $55 trillion over next 25 yea - 06Tech Philanthropists Are Giving Away Billions - 352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:49:25] <exec> 08└─I think also we need to consider the dark side of charity, parasitic agents who suck wealth out of charities for ideology or their own benefit. If you create a billion dollar charity in perpetuity, eventually it'll get taken over by a group who has more interest in using the wealth for their own pur...
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[11:45:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Open the code or suffer standard product liabil - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:45:59] <exec> 08└─It's really quite straightforward to give the vendors a choice: to provide the complete source code under an OSS license or else to comply with standard product liability.
[11:46:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe turn it into an income stream? - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 1151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:46:24] <exec> 08└─That is an excellent idea. And those recidivism rates are incredible. Hell, they'd be incredible if they were twice as high. I didn't read the entire article, only skimmed it, but if those numbers are correct this needs to be done everywhere. Oh, wait a minute, uh, I'm American, and Trump, the 'law...
[11:46:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:Cautious optimism called for here - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 1456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:46:41] <exec> 08└─Right. You're not the only one who can spin a story, jmorris. Look at this: <flame> - The USA wanted to attack Iraq - George W. Bush convinces his poodle, the UK's Tony B. Liar, to come along and form a "coalition of the willing", so it's not just the USA to blame (pity that George Michael videoclip...
[11:46:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:Option to be refugees - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:46:49] <exec> 08└─This is your best trolling ever! I haven't seen such a cruel post since Coldfjord on Slashdot!
[11:47:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:Steam engine? - 06How the 18th-Century Steam Engine Helped Physicists Make a Quantum Breakthrough - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:47:34] <exec> 08└─When did applying a negative gain feedback loop to an electronic system become worthy of a steam engine comparison?
[11:48:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Guppy [3213] (Score:1) 02Re:One job was piss poor - 06Splash-Free Urinals? Scientists Investigate New 'Splash Avoidance' Technique - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:48:36] <exec> 08└─Oh wait, so that thing was a hand drier? Whups, turns out it was not just the messiest urinal ever.
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[12:44:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Smart - 06General Motors to Lay Off 2,000 Employees in Ohio and Michigan - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:39] <exec> 08└─Smart move. I'm absolutely certain that the next government is going to shovel money at ostensibly "US" businesses to bring the jerbs back to America. Start failing now and wait for the success to come with the new administration.
[12:44:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02off topic like a mofo, part ii... - 06General Motors to Lay Off 2,000 Employees in Ohio and Michigan - 453 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:41] <exec> 08└─first world problem: is it (easily) possible to make the 'comments' link on at the btm of the summary next to the 'read more' button be a little bigger (if not similar sized button) ? ? ? especially on my tablet, it is relatively easy to smoosh the 'read more' button, but to just barely use the tipp...
[12:45:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:Good luck. - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:45:17] <exec> 08└─um, i believe the correct terminology now is 'person pages'... get with the times, knuckle-draggers...
[12:45:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:So sad - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:45:31] <exec> 08└─Yes, and it's especally sad because there aren't that many articles that fall under the OS category that Soylentils can geek out about. This is the first one for linux in about a year i have seen since the systemd furor died down.
[12:46:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Government regulation is the only way - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:46:09] <exec> 08└─Regulation is not the only way to fix this. There are certainly technical solutions that can mitigate DDoS attacks. Let's work on those instead of whining. If users and vendors don't care about security, they can learn a lesson from being hacked.
[12:46:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score:2) 02TPP, TTIP, NAFTA, and co. - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:46:13] <exec> 08└─and we're supposedly going to be spending the next few years shredding interntional treaties? Don't expect this to go away while we're busy breaking up TPP, TTIP, NAFTA, the EU, and all the rest.
[12:46:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe turn it into an income stream? - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 3140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:46:45] <exec> 08└─Sometimes the potential penalties for marijuana possession while possessing a legal firearm but not using it, or have it involved in any way other than legally possessing it, have been worse than USING AN ATOMIC WEAPON! From: Federal Mandatory Minimums List (link is to a PDF) http://famm.org
[12:46:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe turn it into an income stream? - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 1698 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:46:52] <exec> 08└─"Well - the thing is, the US and UK view prisons as an income." The very root of the problem. From the 2014 Corrections Corporation of America (CCA) annual report: The demand for our facilities and services could be adversely affected by the relaxation of enforcement efforts, leniency i...
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[13:44:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Sure, sure - 06Lisbon's Web Summit: AI Not Without a Dark Side - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:44:39] <exec> 08└─"AI could be used to deal with particular issues around privacy and surveillance and things like this," Antoine Blondeau, chief executive of Sentient Technologies, told Al Jazeera at the Web Summit in Lisbon.
[13:44:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Bang on target - 06Lisbon's Web Summit: AI Not Without a Dark Side - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:44:40] <exec> 08└─AI will also bring dangers like powerful autonomous weapons and new ways for the few to oppress the many
[13:44:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Dear Leader - 06General Motors to Lay Off 2,000 Employees in Ohio and Michigan - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:44:50] <exec> 08└─I'm sure our newly elected, dear leader will bring these jobs back. Sod the fact that you'll have to pay 5x what you'd want to pay for the product if all of that happens. Jahbs, Jahbs, Jahbs people... Buh... I never felt like I needed a drink so early in a presidency... and it hasn't even started ye...
[13:44:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03quintessence [6227] (Score:2) 02Re:Dear Leader - 06General Motors to Lay Off 2,000 Employees in Ohio and Michigan - 863 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:52] <exec> 08└─While being someone who generally favors free trade, Trump has a point that several aspects of current agreements aren't beneficial in the long term, and while we may cast aspersion about who they will favor in the next round, let's not forget propping up car manufacturers last time around came from...
[13:45:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:Good luck. - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 524 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:35] <exec> 08└─just turn on all the logging. You might need a script to grab the console... However, it is possible to setup linux to make it *only* possible for a user to see their own resources. Google an article about "linux without root" from LinuxJournal. As an aside on a multiprocessor machine (I have 32 cpu...
[13:45:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02a secure kernel vs a secure system - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:45:43] <exec> 08└─after the kernel is made safe, who manages cgroups? or on the other side, what about the auxiliary hardware systems (with privileged access to memory or cpu features)?
[13:46:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:TPP, TTIP, NAFTA, and co. - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:46:26] <exec> 08└─Not to mention all the draconian copyright and patent laws the TPP and friends impose. We should not only scrap these treaties, but we should scrap older draconian treaties like the Berne Convention as well; it's time we fought back against the copyright and patent cultists. Getting rid of software...
[13:46:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Open the code or suffer standard product liabil - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 385 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:46:27] <exec> 08└─The software must be free or else the software can't be trusted (even with supposedly external audits) and shouldn't be used anyway because it doesn't respect the users' freedoms. [gnu.org] Anyone, anywhere, and at any time should be able to view, modify, and distribute modifications of the source c...
[13:47:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe turn it into an income stream? - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:47:01] <exec> 08└─I think I got the total on Will fosters total incarceration wrong, I couldn't find an exact total however I think it was only about 8 total, forgot about the parole, it's 5a.m. and I'm stoned. Damn, I was trying to be accurate...good ganja....
[13:49:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondoctor [2963] (Score:1) 02Re:Ass backwards - 06Tech Philanthropists Are Giving Away Billions - 717 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:49:52] <exec> 08└─You make a lot of assumptions. >you could give fair and equitable wages yourself, completely bypassing any regulatory middlemen That's fucking gibberish. Paying fair wages bypasses nothing, and works well for everyone. You think there's regulations saying you must screw the poor? WTF is wrong with y...
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[14:44:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kenny Blankenship [5712] (Score:1) 02"It will bring great disruption to our economy..." - 06Lisbon's Web Summit: AI Not Without a Dark Side - 891 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:44:50] <exec> 08└─I wish the media, Hawking, etc., would shut the fuck up about the Terminator aspect for now. It's stealing focus from the unemployment threat, and sci-fi makes a lot of people tune out. Any talk about "technology causing unemployment" makes someone jump in with the "buggy whips blah blah" chestnut,...
[14:44:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"It will bring great disruption to our economy. - 06Lisbon's Web Summit: AI Not Without a Dark Side - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:44:51] <exec> 08└─We shouldn't hold back technology to keep people working; we should reform our broken (at that point) economic system so that people don't need to do useless jobs in order to survive.
[14:45:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Missing from the summary... - 06General Motors to Lay Off 2,000 Employees in Ohio and Michigan - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:45:03] <exec> 08└─The cars will now be assembled in Mexico. Nice job Obama.
[14:45:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02GM - 06General Motors to Lay Off 2,000 Employees in Ohio and Michigan - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:45:04] <exec> 08└─It's just their way of saying "thanks for the bailout, suckers"
[14:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02frame of reference - 06The Peculiarities of the Huge Equatorial Jet Stream in Saturn's Atmosphere Revealed - 624 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:45:13] <exec> 08└─A 70,000km wide portion of the atmosphere is moving 1650 km/h relative to what? Saturn's radius is less than that--- only 60,000km. And seems somehow Saturn has an overall rotation period of 10.55 hours, giving an equatorial velocity of 35,500 km/h. So, distance from pole to pole along the cloud top...
[14:46:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03termigator [4271] (Score:2) 02Re:Government regulation is the only way - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:35] <exec> 08└─Agreed. I think many hear make the mistake that "regulation" would entail laws dictating coding practices and hardware design. That is not needed. Instead, the law could state that manufacturers can be held liable. Right now, the industry is allowed to claim no warranty of fitness and claim no liabi...
[14:47:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Solution - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:38] <exec> 08└─Flamebait, but true. Largest prison demographic in the UK - muslim.
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[15:44:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:"It will bring great disruption to our economy. - 06Lisbon's Web Summit: AI Not Without a Dark Side - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:44:58] <exec> 08└─Speaking from the opposite camp (robot awakening FTW): there is only one thing worse than autonomous AI, and it is AI under control of man.
[15:44:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Re:"It will bring great disruption to our economy. - 06Lisbon's Web Summit: AI Not Without a Dark Side - 806 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:44:59] <exec> 08└─I had a discussion about this with my daughter (11 yo) just yesterday. If the robots do all the work, we can just relax and make art and focus on the more interesting stuff, was her argument. No more money, to better oneself is incentive enough. I highly doubt that most people would even want to liv...
[15:45:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02save - 06General Motors to Lay Off 2,000 Employees in Ohio and Michigan - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:13] <exec> 08└─trump save er jerbs! oh wait, he will kill trade agreements, but the products will then cost a lot more....recession time...
[15:45:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:save - 06General Motors to Lay Off 2,000 Employees in Ohio and Michigan - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:14] <exec> 08└─No, he's going to make it less profitable for the corporations that send jobs across the border. If Clinton was elected, this same old shit would continue.
[15:45:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snospar [5366] (Score:1) 02Re:Good luck. - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 724 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:58] <exec> 08└─Thanks for persevering with this thread, despite all the negative replies. We have boxes at work that log all our keystrokes and commands, as they are servers used to manage/maintain a large secure network, and I've often wondered how that logging was done. And yes, as a user of those machines I hav...
[15:46:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rich [945] (Score:2) 02Why don't they harden the language? - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 1920 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:07] <exec> 08└─The C language itself could easily be hardened against the vast majority of the classic exploit sources, even while staying source compatible. There are already different accessors for pointers (*) and arrays (or "vectors", as they call'em) ([]). Slap a size count for arrays into the ABI and warn on...
[15:46:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Or you could stop fucking. - 06New Therapeutic Vaccine Approach Holds Promise for HIV Remission - 801 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:46:21] <exec> 08└─None of this changes the fact that the human genome has been mapped. They're just trying to find faster ways to map the genomes (ie: perhaps map only the differences) or look for specific information without having to map every individuals entire genome every time because that's very time consuming...
[15:46:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:A white hat bunch of hackers would do - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:46:33] <exec> 08└─Then you will be in violation of the new lifestyle. A modern man is supposed to be a couch potato, and walking 12 steps down the hall to do something is anathema. Huh? You're behind the times (and so am I). These days it's all about fitness. Personally, I think exercise is bad for you. Proof? Take a...
[15:46:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:A white hat bunch of hackers would do - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:46:35] <exec> 08└─The problem is that the people who are "digital disease vectors" aren't usually the ones impacted. The DDOS affects anyone using the sites that are affected online, sites the "digital disease vectors" may not use. [cyberscoop.com]
[15:46:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Government regulation is the only way - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:46:52] <exec> 08└─Technical solutions huh. Sounds a lot like the infamous old checklist that showed up on the old site every time someone proposed a solution for spam. What technical solutions do you propose, pray tell, to mitigate DDoS attacks? There don't seem to be any really good ones, or else we'd already be usi...
[15:47:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe turn it into an income stream? - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:38] <exec> 08└─I mean, if their rehabilitation is so good that they are closing prisoners down. Why not offer to lease out the prisons to neighbouring countries which have a bigger prison problem? Perhaps even offer the same rehabilitation as a service?
[15:47:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03moondoctor [2963] 02Re:Cautious optimism called for here - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 820 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:40] <exec> 08└─>This was a story in the media so there is propaganda involved Goddamn this election fucked some people up... Sad to think that the idea of this just being plain old fashioned journalism (reporting the truth to the best of your ability) is mind blowing. Pro-tip: If you doubt a story in the 'media' g...
[15:48:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Great idea in theory - 06How the 18th-Century Steam Engine Helped Physicists Make a Quantum Breakthrough - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:48:43] <exec> 08└─Sampling rate has nothing to do with noise and everything to do with alias distortion.
[15:48:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Do we still have hiss? - 06How the 18th-Century Steam Engine Helped Physicists Make a Quantum Breakthrough - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:48:47] <exec> 08└─The noise they're talking about is subaudible but still affects electronics. Those electronics may not even have anything to do with audio.
[15:49:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02diet - 06Power Outage in the Brain may be Source of Alzheimer's - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:49:04] <exec> 08└─so, it's caused by incorrect diet as some nutritionists have suggested. get off the pig slop and start eating a high fat diet with veggies instead (with exercise) and all these high tech "genetic" illnesses will disappear. so will all the doctor's drug dealing profits so don't expect a lot of press...
[15:50:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Ass backwards - 06Tech Philanthropists Are Giving Away Billions - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:50:29] <exec> 08└─Paying fair wages bypasses nothing, and works well for everyone. You think there's regulations saying you must screw the poor?
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[16:44:49] <exec> 08└─"These chips were made for walking, And that's what they'll do. One of these days these chimps will walk all over you."
[16:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:off topic like a mofo, part ii... - 06General Motors to Lay Off 2,000 Employees in Ohio and Michigan - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:17] <exec> 08└─Reading on my phone, I zoom in to click small targets.
[16:45:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Looks like another case of lumpers vs splitters ? - 06Three New Bird Species Discovered in Africa - 612 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:40] <exec> 08└─Not quite a discovery in the sense that no ornithologist had ever seen these birds before, from that press release it seems that someone has decided based on molecular biology that these similar-looking known birds should be assigned different species names. Happens all the time nowadays in all "kin...
[16:46:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good luck. - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:46:10] <exec> 08└─Huh? I don't think user access to a machine allows root. That would be lame. Physical access on the other hand generally means all bets are off.
[16:47:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:TPP, TTIP, NAFTA, and co. - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 1089 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:47:06] <exec> 08└─Sure, there's a lot in the treaties that sucks, and the way so much of the negotiation was done in secret is inexcusable (some of the financial details I can kind of understand though), but the point was more the black and white take that many people have on globalisation. Without limits, it's a bad...
[16:47:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:Open the code or suffer standard product liabil - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 866 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:47:09] <exec> 08└─In an ideal world, certainly. In the one we live in however I just can't see any certification that *requires* the code to be fully open ever getting enough traction to actually make it through to ratification and adoption, at least not just yet. Progress is being made, with more and more government...
[16:47:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Open the code or suffer standard product liabil - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:47:11] <exec> 08└─Q: but how will the whores keep their competitors from stealing their precious secrets and the whole market? A: no one is stopping you from getting off your ass or innovating. maybe you think you should be able to work once and then just get paid for the rest of your life by violating others' freedo...
[16:47:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Governmental Regulation - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:47:15] <exec> 08└─Is rarely the answer. Market forces however, is.
[16:48:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02stop the madness - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 1395 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:48:14] <exec> 08└─i'm a mostly a libertarian/anarchist but if the government is going to be allowed to kidnap and imprison people it should also be responsible to do it right. putting people into super criminal(or just pure regression into a damaged animal) training programs (US prisons) is not OK. If the government...
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[17:44:33] <exec> 08└─That's because scouts come from Christian families from backgrounds ranging from middle-class suburban to wealthy. Of course they're gonna have good mental health, they don't have to worry about how much longer their family can afford that apartment or being beaten up at school or on the streets for...
[17:44:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Good - 06Scientists Have Developed a Type of HIV Test On a USB Stick - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:44:46] <exec> 08└─Now the bug-chasers at their pozz parties can verify that, yes, they are on the right track!
[17:46:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why don't they harden the language? - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 930 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:46:11] <exec> 08└─i'm just learning php but i think it would be nice if languages had some security built in. So, if you use it as documented you are more secure by default. You should have to go out of your way to do dangerous stuff. you should get warnings in the log when doing dumb shit. or are these ideas stupid...
[17:46:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:A white hat bunch of hackers would do - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:46:38] <exec> 08└─Fitness?!?! What the what is fitness???? :)
[17:46:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What could possibly go wrong? - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:46:45] <exec> 08└─What the fuck is a "Linux bigot"? Are there also 'Windows bigots', 'Mac bigots', and so on?
[17:47:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score:2) 02Binary decisions - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 479 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:04] <exec> 08└─You're right that globalization is not black and white, at least when considered generally. Those specific treaties are black and white though. The US has fast-tracked them which means the vote is take it or leave it, no modifications or conditions allowed. That's as black and white as it gets. Bu...
[17:47:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:TPP, TTIP, NAFTA, and co. - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:06] <exec> 08└─Here's a solution, then: Negotiate the treaties in public and without all the corporate lobbying, and don't allow draconian nonsense into them (keep it about beneficial free trade and other things that actually benefit the people). Until that happens, these treaties must be rejected.
[17:47:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Open the code or suffer standard product liabil - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:10] <exec> 08└─Sure, that might be true for legislation and treaties, but I'm saying that as many individuals as possible should reject non-free devices. Maybe there won't be enough people doing that to actually cause the companies to have second thoughts, but it can still benefit the individual boycotters.
[17:47:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03kc [5066] (Score:1) 02Re:Maybe turn it into an income stream? - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:50] <exec> 08└─This idea has already been tried. It is literally slavery as punishment for a crime. And it is still for-profit and therefore it would be abused to provide cheap labor for either public property or for private companies.
[17:47:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Cautious optimism called for here - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:57] <exec> 08└─Goddamn this election fucked some people up...
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[18:44:37] <exec> 08└─Did the study include the Hitler Youth?
[18:44:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Duh - 06Scouts and Guides Provide 'Mental Health Boost for Life' - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:44:38] <exec> 08└─Be nice or I'll start sending all the fat-assed women in southern Cali instructions on how to tie knots you can't get loose from in the bedroom.
[18:44:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02C !=C - 06Scouts and Guides Provide 'Mental Health Boost for Life' - 382 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:44:41] <exec> 08└─Sigh....correlation is not causation... I hate that term when snidely posted on forums inappropriately but in this case it fits the bill... I could come up with a dozen reasons off the top of my head that they could not have controlled for. Unlike another poster who talked about back backgrounds and...
[18:44:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:C !=C - 06Scouts and Guides Provide 'Mental Health Boost for Life' - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:44:43] <exec> 08└─Maybe there is no causal link, but the correlation is good enough to provide some guidance on how to live your life! As for myself, I am right now going to try to have better mental health so that I could have been a Scout or a Guide earlier in my life. You see, causation only goes one way, but corr...
[18:45:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sure, sure - 06Lisbon's Web Summit: AI Not Without a Dark Side - 703 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:06] <exec> 08└─"I would argue for caution" errr...the threat of AI is so trivial and obvious one wonders why this is such a revelation. There is nothing here that a smart 12 year old could not work out. And what the fuck is all this "could" and " It's incumbent on us to make sure it's not concentrated in the hands...
[18:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fnord666 [652] (Score:2) 02Re:"It will bring great disruption to our economy. - 06Lisbon's Web Summit: AI Not Without a Dark Side - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:12] <exec> 08└─I wish the media, Hawking, etc., would shut the fuck up about the Terminator aspect for now. It's stealing focus from the unemployment threat, and sci-fi makes a lot of people tune out.
[18:45:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:"It will bring great disruption to our economy. - 06Lisbon's Web Summit: AI Not Without a Dark Side - 1257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:14] <exec> 08└─The thing is, there are ways to adjust the economy to counter this technology-killing-jobs factor. Some examples of options that would work just fine: - Universal Income: If you receive enough money just for being alive to buy the things you need to stay alive, then the effects of unemployment are m...
[18:45:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dear Leader - 06General Motors to Lay Off 2,000 Employees in Ohio and Michigan - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:26] <exec> 08└─labor is not By choice, not by necessity.
[18:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:save - 06General Motors to Lay Off 2,000 Employees in Ohio and Michigan - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:32] <exec> 08└─Notice how Trump's wall is getting smaller and less impressive now that he's won the election. Expect that trend to continue. The Incredible Shrinking Border Wall.
[18:45:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:save - 06General Motors to Lay Off 2,000 Employees in Ohio and Michigan - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:34] <exec> 08└─The peso has declined in value too, so it all works out.
[18:46:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Good luck. - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:10] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but the AC gives up, going uphill both ways in a snow storm while dragging his dead daddy by the penis!
[18:46:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fnord666 [652] (Score:2) 02Re:Good luck. - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:23] <exec> 08└─In our shop we use PowerBroker [beyondtrust.com].
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[19:44:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02such reflection - 06Browser Add-on Caught Selling Identifiable Web Histories - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:44:42] <exec> 08└─So they're changing their ways in every manner that still let's them do what they were doing. Right.
[19:44:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Anon - 06Browser Add-on Caught Selling Identifiable Web Histories - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:44:44] <exec> 08└─The broadcaster managed to identify over 50 people from sample data, and uncovered everything from active police investigations to the implied sexual orientation of a judge.
[19:44:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Duh - 06Scouts and Guides Provide 'Mental Health Boost for Life' - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:44:54] <exec> 08└─Hey, leave the Texas A & M marching band out of this!
[19:44:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:2, Touché) 02Re:Duh - 06Scouts and Guides Provide 'Mental Health Boost for Life' - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:44:57] <exec> 08└─Bring them on. I shall slay them one-by-one with my mighty extender. [amazon.com]
[19:45:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:C !=C - 06Scouts and Guides Provide 'Mental Health Boost for Life' - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:01] <exec> 08└─correlation is not causation
[19:45:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"It will bring great disruption to our economy. - 06Lisbon's Web Summit: AI Not Without a Dark Side - 541 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:31] <exec> 08└─To pay for universal/basic income the wealth the robots generate has to be enough _and_ it has to be diverted to the people (which might not happen esp in countries like the USA where even many of the working class are against the evils of socialism ;) ). Similar for the other scenario. So basically...
[19:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"It will bring great disruption to our economy. - 06Lisbon's Web Summit: AI Not Without a Dark Side - 880 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:33] <exec> 08└─"AI" already determines whether your health insurance claims are paid or not, and by how much. Well, not really AI, but it's done nightly. So there is still some oversight and possibility to appeal. today. (ok, yes, not really AI...yet. more and more data fusion & integration, both at a macroscale a...
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[19:45:51] <exec> 08└─The "wall" doesn't have to be a brick and mortar construction. It can be anything from an impenetrable fence to real border guarding, instead of the welcome mat that it is now. And... getting tired of the looser Clinton supporters marking posts as troll. It was so nice of you to go protesting the el...
[19:46:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:Why don't they harden the language? - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:46:51] <exec> 08└─The C language itself could easily be hardened against the vast majority of the classic exploit sources, even while staying source compatible.
[19:47:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Or you could stop fucking. - 06New Therapeutic Vaccine Approach Holds Promise for HIV Remission - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:47:06] <exec> 08└─The best way would have been to show you the long stretches of N's directly, but how about this: even the extensively studied human genome has not yet reached a complete, 'telomere-to-telomere', chromosome assembly.
[19:47:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02You should read BCP38, it is about spoofing - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 487 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:47:30] <exec> 08└─RFC2827 / BCP38 Abstract says: Recent occurrences of various Denial of Service (DoS) attacks which have employed forged source addresses have proven to be a troublesome issue for Internet Service Providers and the Internet community overall. This paper discusses a simple, effective, and straightforw...
[19:47:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:IoT ignores BCP38, SMTP mostly solved - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:47:31] <exec> 08└─Before reading https://www.ietf.org [ietf.org] you should read https://www.ietf.org [ietf.org] .
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[20:44:59] <exec> 08└─He's an "Openly Gay Olympic Fencer" Apparently that's an insult
[20:45:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02is this really any surprise? - 06Browser Add-on Caught Selling Identifiable Web Histories - 1519 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:01] <exec> 08└─I mean, anyone with two functioning brain cells can rub them together and figure out that any addon that does a "check" for you of a website you're visiting can and will in fact be able to see the sites you visit intentionally or not, maybe even the page of the site as well depending on how they do...
[20:45:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:is this really any surprise? - 06Browser Add-on Caught Selling Identifiable Web Histories - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:03] <exec> 08└─In all honesty, even if you were being paid by them to do so, you'd still be a complete moron to use it. As most likely their little addon will be doing a lot more than what they're paying you for to earn some extra cash on the side.
[20:45:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kenny Blankenship [5712] (Score:1) 02Re:"It will bring great disruption to our economy. - 06Lisbon's Web Summit: AI Not Without a Dark Side - 555 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:47] <exec> 08└─You both bring up what I think is the key point - maybe this could be addressed politically in some other country, but it's not going to happen in the U.S. At least half the U.S. voters are afraid that they'll be tied down by Lilliputians and forced to pay for their welfare. They're way more afraid...
[20:46:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:save - 06General Motors to Lay Off 2,000 Employees in Ohio and Michigan - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:09] <exec> 08└─getting tired of the looser Clinton supporters marking posts as troll
[20:46:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:save - 06General Motors to Lay Off 2,000 Employees in Ohio and Michigan - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:10] <exec> 08└─getting tired of the looser Clinton supporters marking posts as troll
[20:47:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:So sad - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:47:06] <exec> 08└─I think the problem is it's less an OS category than a privacy vs security category. How much do you value your users privacy vs how well do you want to secure your system. Actually, a pretty contentious issue, depending on who you are: user or manager. Kind of like citizen vs NSA/FBI etc.
[20:47:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rich [945] (Score:2) 02Re:Why don't they harden the language? - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:47:11] <exec> 08└─No it can't. The closest C came to type safety was Cyclone
[20:48:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Maybe turn it into an income stream? - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:48:40] <exec> 08└─It's a shame that no one in Holland has thought to learn anything besides Dutch ... and the speakers of those other 42 languages only speak theirs as well. /s
[20:49:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cautious optimism called for here - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:49:01] <exec> 08└─Well, Merkel has you by the balls, then.
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[21:44:49] <exec> 08└─The definition of "changing their ways" is: Must... keep... money... fountain... flowing... at... all... cost...
[21:45:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:C !=C - 06Scouts and Guides Provide 'Mental Health Boost for Life' - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:45:08] <exec> 08└─No, you are wrong. I wont bother explaining because this is the internet and its pointless...
[21:45:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:C !=C - 06Scouts and Guides Provide 'Mental Health Boost for Life' - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:45:10] <exec> 08└─There is a 99.947% record of AC's being wrong when they assert a non-AC is wrong, so I can only infer that this statistic that you are wrong in your assertion that I are wrong. Do not blame the internets when it is you being AC that is causing your wrongness. Besides, Prof. Hawking agrees.
[21:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:C !=C - 06Scouts and Guides Provide 'Mental Health Boost for Life' - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:45:13] <exec> 08└─BLAH BLAH BLAH. Irrelevant. You cannot draw causative conclusions from this study. ESPECIALLY this sort study. Certainly not the one claimed. If you don't understand why, there is not point explaining this further because you are a moron.
[21:45:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02hrmpf. - 06Scouts and Guides Provide 'Mental Health Boost for Life' - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:15] <exec> 08└─Akela, we obey you! Didn't like the scouts. Stayed only 1 day.
[21:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:hrmpf. - 06Scouts and Guides Provide 'Mental Health Boost for Life' - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:45:17] <exec> 08└─I was in the cub scouts for a few weeks, was looking forward to camping and lighting fires and shooting archery and shit. Nope. It was all tying knots and prayer. I said fuck it and quit to do real outdoor activities like jumping my bike, shooting cans (mexi-CANS, afri-CANS, and puerto ri-CANS) with...
[21:45:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Camping, hiking, outdoor stuff - 06Scouts and Guides Provide 'Mental Health Boost for Life' - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:19] <exec> 08└─Is good, if you do it on at least an occasional basis (kayaking 10 years ago doesn't count). That's one good use for scouting, to give kids a push in the right direction. All the merit badge stuff wasn't so useful.
[21:46:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:frame of reference - 06The Peculiarities of the Huge Equatorial Jet Stream in Saturn's Atmosphere Revealed - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:46:21] <exec> 08└─portion of the atmosphere is moving 1650 km/h relative to what?
[21:47:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rich [945] (Score:2) 02Re:Oops. I made a mistake there. - 06The Status of Linux Kernel Hardening - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:47:17] <exec> 08└─On a 25 GHz NS32032, the whole Oberon System would compile itself in 15 milliseconds. The 32032 wasn't that fast. But it would certainly be a welcome difference to the person who complained "we're compiling all day" in the article ref'd in the submission.
[21:48:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03EETech1 [957] (Score:1) 02What about the CPU? - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:48:21] <exec> 08└─Wouldn't using a CPU with the Harvard Architecture solve much of this problem? If the code is stored separately, and cannot be confused with data ,it would seem that would eliminate many of the methods used to take over these devices.
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[22:44:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02ocean ph - 06CO2-loving Plants Can Counter Human Emissions - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:52] <exec> 08└─the acidification of the ocean is a real problem. death or coral reefs means more beach erosion and loss of habitat. this attempt to make is seem as if anthropogenic co2 isn't a problem is disheartening.
[22:45:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02opt-out - 06Browser Add-on Caught Selling Identifiable Web Histories - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:45:11] <exec> 08└─The only sane opt-out at this point for any user is the uninstall button.
[22:45:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:C !=C - 06Scouts and Guides Provide 'Mental Health Boost for Life' - 1038 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:45:30] <exec> 08└─That's great Jim, but that doesn't answer my charges. There's inductive and deductive reasoning, not to mention reductionist fallacy which the mental midgets (god damn midgets are on the brain today) who cluck correlation is not causation fall prey to even as they are making the charge of questionab...
[22:45:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:C !=C - 06Scouts and Guides Provide 'Mental Health Boost for Life' - 585 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:45:31] <exec> 08└─The correlation between correlation and causation historically does not imply causation ;) There's a correlation between every event that actually happened, by definition, but very few of those involve causation, for interesting definitions of causation. When you base your system of beliefs around c...
[22:45:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:C !=C - 06Scouts and Guides Provide 'Mental Health Boost for Life' - 598 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:45:33] <exec> 08└─Pretty much all the time, since humans are inherently irrational and we justify our actions after we have already acted. >correlation between eating at McDonalds and low income Eating at McDonalds does not make you poor >dog owners have lower blood pressure People who are more active (and thus have...
[22:45:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02It is the pants, I tell you. - 06Scouts and Guides Provide 'Mental Health Boost for Life' - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:45:39] <exec> 08└─When you have marched around with those uniforms, hats and short pants, and endured the stares, OF COURSE 30 years later you are less likely to be anxious if you accidentally get ketchup on your shirt. The mood also is going to be good because, you see, YOU ARE NOT IN THE SCOUTS ANYMORE. DUH JK, I h...
[22:45:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Obvious offensive joke - 06Scientists Have Developed a Type of HIV Test On a USB Stick - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:45:53] <exec> 08└─HIV test on a USB stick? Let me guess, gay porn?
[22:48:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03trimtab [2194] (Score:1) 02Re:Open the code or suffer standard product liabil - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 1361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:48:36] <exec> 08└─The problem is that the "so called" balanced approach will absolutely lead to more DDOS attacks for IoT devices. It costs money to develop, audit, and maintain secure firmware/software properly. There is NO incentive to spend that extra money without government penalties for failure to do so, so clo...
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[23:44:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Does Not Sound Promising - 06Lack of Plasmodium Surface-Protein Blocks Mosquito Infection - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:44:40] <exec> 08└─> If the scientists can exploit the finding, they can short-circuit the life-cycle of the malaria parasite. They would have to inoculate every mammal in the area in order to prevent the mosquitoes from getting infected. How would they pull that off?
[23:44:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Just the Facts, Ma'am - 06CO2-loving Plants Can Counter Human Emissions - 436 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:44:49] <exec> 08└─While deniers will certainly spin this as yet another straw they can gasp at to pretend there is no problem (disheartedly awaiting the callow crue to swoop in), it is important for those of us who live in a fact-based reality to pay attention to all high-quality research. These findings don't really...
[23:44:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02wow - 06Exotic Property of Salty Solutions Discovered - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:44:57] <exec> 08└─No rude AC comments on exotic salty solutions?
[23:45:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:is this really any surprise? - 06Browser Add-on Caught Selling Identifiable Web Histories - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:11] <exec> 08└─I mean, anyone with two functioning brain cells can rub them together and figure out that any addon that does a "check" for you of a website you're visiting can and will in fact be able to see the sites you visit intentionally or not
[23:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Life lessons from Scouts - 06Scouts and Guides Provide 'Mental Health Boost for Life' - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:36] <exec> 08└─I was in the cub scouts for a few weeks, was looking forward to camping and lighting fires and shooting archery and shit.
[23:45:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Camping, hiking, outdoor stuff - 06Scouts and Guides Provide 'Mental Health Boost for Life' - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:39] <exec> 08└─This. Outdoor activities on your own or with a small group of family/friends. Around here, the scouts (or more correctly the scout leaders) were known for cutting down lots of trees for no reason other than someone thought the forest needed clearing. No forester in sight to provide actual guidance....
[23:46:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Re:"It will bring great disruption to our economy. - 06Lisbon's Web Summit: AI Not Without a Dark Side - 539 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:46:14] <exec> 08└─Automation of mundane tasks also results in legal liability associated with those tasks and any possible adverse outcomes that might occur being concentrated on whoever makes the software. The presence of a human in a car also alters the actual punishment for stealing the car or its contents as well...
[23:46:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02necessity - 06General Motors to Lay Off 2,000 Employees in Ohio and Michigan - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:46:28] <exec> 08└─>> labor is not [mobile] > > By choice, not by necessity. Said like somebody with absolutely no family or friends who has never lived in country where no one speaks his language. But yeah, totally by choice.
[23:46:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dear Leader - 06General Motors to Lay Off 2,000 Employees in Ohio and Michigan - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:46:29] <exec> 08└─> Trump has a point that several aspects of current agreements aren't beneficial in the long term, Which specific aspects are those? Because he's been saying the same thing for decades, except each time he says it, he complains about a different country. Funny how he's always right regardless of the...
[23:48:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03jurov [6250] (Score:1) 02Is anyone actually doing it? - 06Regulation of the Internet of Things - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:48:49] <exec> 08└─Suppose a security-conscious customer wants to do the research before buying. Is there anybody who actually checks the devices for open ports/default passwords/other DDoS vectors and publishes the results?
[23:49:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Cautious optimism called for here - 06The Dutch Prison Crisis: a Shortage of Prisoners - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:49:38] <exec> 08└─Merkel has everything to do with this, for she is the de-facto public face of the rulers of Europe, and the one who says that all European countries must accept immigrant savages. Yeah, I am well aware that she is of Germany, but if you knew anything about Europe then you would have understood why I...
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