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[00:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Definitly - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:47] <exec> 08└─You know you get 3 points too right? 5 speeding fines in 3 years and you're banned.
[00:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score:2) 02Re:Definitly - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 552 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:49] <exec> 08└─It is a bit of a perverse incentive, I admit. Also when I read this: "The government says they are used to improve capacity, not generate revenue." I was reminded of the saying "Nothing is ever confirmed as truth until it is officially denied". Saying that, I have never actually got a ticket on the...
[00:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:Go with the flow? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 1455 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:53] <exec> 08└─Yep, they'll ticket anyone and everyone going through the camera at more than whatever margin over the posted limit they are allowing for and they can get a valid ANPR read on. As for slamming the brakes on though, yeah, you get a little of that (you can see which gantries have cameras if you look c...
[00:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Improve capacity is a side benefit - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:56] <exec> 08└─52,000 citations at £150 apiece is just shy of 8 million, which isn't chump change, but that barely covers the cost of a single mile of smart motorway... it will be many years before the 11 sections initial cost is repaid by the increase in fines.
[00:09:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score:2) 02Re:Improve capacity is a side benefit - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 714 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:58] <exec> 08└─Depends on how the money is allocated. So if I remember correctly, in the UK the cost of building out the smart motorways is paid for out of the general taxation purse, however revenue from fines is collected by the local council and police department. So it can both be a) a profit generating stream...
[00:09:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02One word - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:10:00] <exec> 08└─"The government says they are used to improve capacity, not generate revenue." Bullshit.
[00:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Wow, really? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:10:02] <exec> 08└─More than 1,000 motorists a week are being caught speeding
[00:10:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Of course - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 646 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:10:05] <exec> 08└─Before motorways were 3 lanes plus a shoulder Now they are 4 lanes but no shoulder Obviously there's more capacity. It's been done on the cheap, but it does increase capacity (at the expense of safety) The speed limits also help moderate the flow and prevent bunching. In my experience when the signs...
[00:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Variable speed limits? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 895 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:10:07] <exec> 08└─OK, I get the appeal of reassigning lanes depending on traffic volume -- the prospect of changeover is a little terrifying, but once drivers are used to it, sounds great. And variable speed limits? In general, sounds OK -- it's logical to reduce the posted limit in cases where weather, lane closure...
[00:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:TPP - 06Clinton V. Trump on Copyrights and Patents: Reading the Platform and the Tea Leaves - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:21] <exec> 08└─"to being much cooler about it during her campaign" Key words, "during her campaign". If elected, she will flip, shift, or whatever, once again. She knows who is going to put money into her foundation, and it isn't us who oppose the "trade" deals.
[00:10:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Much More than Copyright - 06Clinton V. Trump on Copyrights and Patents: Reading the Platform and the Tea Leaves - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:24] <exec> 08└─Did you miss my links? You can read it for yourself.
[00:10:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03J053 [3532] (Score:2) 02Re:TPP - 06Clinton V. Trump on Copyrights and Patents: Reading the Platform and the Tea Leaves - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:27] <exec> 08└─Or, ya know, rather than Wikileaks you could read the text at the US Trade Representative's website: https://ustr.gov [ustr.gov]
[00:10:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:... - 06Clinton V. Trump on Copyrights and Patents: Reading the Platform and the Tea Leaves - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:33] <exec> 08└─I think we need a new ranking of 'da fuq did I just read'.
[00:10:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Smart Infrastructure - 06General Motors Ramps Up Chevrolet Bolt Electric Car Production - 1226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:46] <exec> 08└─Depends on how you define "OK". Basically we are fucking up our neighbors' nets by overproducing electricity during hours of low demand and keep burning coal (including mercury-releasing lignite) the rest of the day. Solar seems to be falling out of fashion a bit now that all the panel production ha...
[00:10:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score:2) 02Re:Smart Infrastructure - 06General Motors Ramps Up Chevrolet Bolt Electric Car Production - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:49] <exec> 08└─Last Quebecian nuclear power reactor (Gentilly-2) shut down in 2012. So right now the only canadian nuclear power plant/reactor outside Ontario* is Point Lepreau in New Brunswick. Kinda sad how Gentilly-2 got shut down (* = Ontario has three nuclear sites/plants with a combined total of 18 operating...
[00:11:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Driverless cars will clog city streets - 06A Slow Ride Toward the Future of Public Transportation - 1176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:11:19] <exec> 08└─>"People will drive into the city and send the car back home until recalled ..." Probably not so much. What will happen instead is that people will get dropped off conveniently close to their destination, and their car will go park itself up to a few miles away in a large parking structure. The park...
[00:11:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not either/or, but as well as - 06A Slow Ride Toward the Future of Public Transportation - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:11:26] <exec> 08└─>"There is a reason why today we have both buses and taxis. Those reasons won't go away when both start to be self-driving." This is correct. What will happen is that self-driving cars will make taxi rides much cheaper, so there will be little need for fixed bus lines. While there will be some fixed...
[00:14:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What Asteroid? - 06NASA and FEMA Conduct Asteroid Threat Response Exercise - 1178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:14:41] <exec> 08└─I'll bite. Yes. And it does work that way. Meteorites and bolides come from virtually any direction..... except that the Earth travels in a particular direction, so it isn't easy for a meteor to "sneak up" from behind.... but even that happens. Now, why don't you see it "going up?" Well, point at th...
[00:15:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02supercooled - 06SpaceX Identifies Cause of September Explosion - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:15:38] <exec> 08└─[...] the supercooled liquid oxygen that SpaceX uses as propellant actually became so cold that it turned into a solid. And that's not supposed to happen.
[00:19:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Gayniggers from Outer Space - 06Forty-Two Sci-Fi Movies Every Geek Must See - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:19:47] <exec> 08└─Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope is, to a great extent, the original movie. It's been renamed. Other changes were made when it was re-released; it's not a sequel though.
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[01:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Wow, really? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:04] <exec> 08└─Rather an asshole maneuver to not only change the speed limit irregularly so people can't get used to it, but then also automatically ticket them when they get it wrong.
[01:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Wow, really? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 906 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:06] <exec> 08└─Two thoughts: - If the limit goes down when there is congestion, then it should go up at quiet times. The same road which had a 130km/h limit for my parents' 70s death trap cars can be travelled safely in a modern car at 160 if it's almost empty. - Once we all have mandatory panopticon surveil...
[01:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Wow, really? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:08] <exec> 08└─What next, an attachment that when you start the car automatically slaps you in the face?
[01:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:Variable speed limits? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 4043 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:13] <exec> 08└─In some cases reducing the top speed can help alleviate some of the worst affects of congestion, though you are quite correct to point out that logically it cannot alleviate congestion itself (unless it results in people taking alternate routes, which is clearly not what we're going for here.) Stop...
[01:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Smart motorways? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:10:15] <exec> 08└─Variable speed controls are a great idea. They are starting to appear in California, an excellent idea, especially during rush hour. But driving on the shoulder is NEVER a good idea, and using technology to make that possible is stupid. They're not called the "breakdown lane" in some places for noth...
[01:10:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:Smart motorways? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 746 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:17] <exec> 08└─The UK system is a *little* smarter than that. In many stretches where they use hard shoulder running (HSR) they also have emergency lay-bys at regular intervals for vehicles to get off the main carriageway, and in addition to the ANPR cameras they also do stationary vehicle detection and will autom...
[01:10:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:TPP - 06Clinton V. Trump on Copyrights and Patents: Reading the Platform and the Tea Leaves - 728 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:28] <exec> 08└─There is no need to even get rabid about the TPP, or argue about it at all. IT'S DEAD ON ARRIVAL. PERIOD. Any legislation that is discussed in secret chambers and held from the public is automatically, permanently, and with extreme fucking prejudice annihilated from the legislators hands . Afterward...
[01:10:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Smart Infrastructure - 06General Motors Ramps Up Chevrolet Bolt Electric Car Production - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:56] <exec> 08└─I have thought from reading Stratfor that a big reason for the Energiewende is that it makes Germany less vulnerable to interruption in the Russian gas supply. Is any of that perceived on the ground in Germany, or talked about in academic- and professional circles?
[01:10:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Smart Infrastructure - 06General Motors Ramps Up Chevrolet Bolt Electric Car Production - 614 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:59] <exec> 08└─Great article, that affirms things I saw a couple years ago about renewables chopping off the positive side of the utility profit curve. Don't you love how one of the ways the utilities are trying to cope is "by working on the consumer level to implement services like home automation?" I think they'...
[01:11:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Good for them... - 06General Motors Ramps Up Chevrolet Bolt Electric Car Production - 684 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:11:06] <exec> 08└─I dunno, that form factor works pretty well for me. We have a Honda Fit now, which is a great car because it's very versatile and easy to park on the street in Brooklyn, which has alternate side parking (ie., you have to move your car once a week for street cleaning to prevent people from hogging pa...
[01:11:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Forget light rail - 06A Slow Ride Toward the Future of Public Transportation - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:11:24] <exec> 08└─Thanks for the advice, Portland, OR will tear down it's very successful light rail program because the city isn't dense enough for europeans to think it would work. Granted, the Phoneixes, Dallases, and Tampas of the country would have problems, but that's more due to car culture than anything.
[01:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Needs more troll articles - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:13:26] <exec> 08└─I've noted in other posts that we're growing on the whole, and our bandwidth and load requirements have steady gone up year after year. While we might be just 'medium' sized, we're much more active than many other sites, and we allow anonymous posting which helps a lot. I may ask permission from the...
[01:13:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Needs more troll articles - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:13:31] <exec> 08└─Citation? Mod bans are only handed out due to spam, or abusing the moderation system. I can see the mod logs, so if you link the post(s), I'll look into it and any staff members involved.
[01:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Needs more troll articles - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:13:35] <exec> 08└─I've been here from the beginning, I've submitted hundreds of stories and I have a LOT of free time due to being bed-ridden for the last year. Once I am healed enough to have a life again, the value calculation of putting up with the shitposters will change and I will drift away.
[01:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Needs more troll articles - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 557 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:13:40] <exec> 08└─On the whole, we are growing. Originally, we shot up from 100 user accounts to about 3000 when we launched. Since then, we've put on about 1000-1500 accounts per year (max UID 6399 as of writing). The problem I've noticed is a lot of niche articles tends to not get a lot of comments as a lot of user...
[01:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Daylight Savings Time - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:13:48] <exec> 08└─I believe the site defaults to EST if you don't have a timezone set. The default is whatever the AC account is set to; we'd have to edit the DB to change it. I suspect this would be an acceptable use of JavaScript and simply show times in UTC if JS is disabled.
[01:14:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Submissions - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:14:06] <exec> 08└─We discussed it a long time ago, search for the term 'supermoderation'. The reception was on the whole negative when we talked about it.
[01:14:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Submissions - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 530 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:14:10] <exec> 08└─Meta moderation (M2) was fixed some time ago, but is disabled. The current moderation algrothimn doesn't look at the m2 fields in the database at all. I'm not convinced its a way to fix the problem because very few people on the whole moderate in general, and meta-moderation just gets tedious after...
[01:14:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Submissions - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 508 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:14:20] <exec> 08└─Maybe a helpful thing to do is start an editorial calendar to track such things. I've noticed that at certain times of year there are more science-y stories than usual. It probably coincides with when proposals are due in to the NSF and people put out press releases on their research to juice their...
[01:16:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Economy is fucked. - 06Election Eve US Jobs Report Reflects Continuing Stagnation - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:16:37] <exec> 08└─Plus, you won't have to deal with Jews. Well, you will, but with only occasional Jews who aren't allowed to act like typical Jews.
[01:16:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''the US is far better off''... - 06Election Eve US Jobs Report Reflects Continuing Stagnation - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:16:43] <exec> 08└─the US is far better off [...] jobs-wise than we were 4 or 8 years ago ...if you don't mention that most of the new jobs are poverty-wage no-benefits part-time jobs that replaced the good-paying manufacturing jobs with good benefits that the USA -used- to have before the trade agreements which dispo...
[01:17:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Venison is good food - 06Arby's is Selling Venison Sandwiches in Six Deer-Hunting States - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:17:36] <exec> 08└─Age of the animal impacts the gamey flavor. A high-end restaurant could afford to source younger kangaroo with a more mild taste.
[01:19:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:1) 02Re:Hosts - 06BugReplay - Finding How Ads Get Past the Blockers - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:19:59] <exec> 08└─There is no contradiction between your advice and his; you can use a host file on a router.
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[02:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mykl [1112] (Score:3, Insightful) 02More interesting than I thought - 06Trace Metal Recombination Centers Kill LED Efficiency - 398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:09:51] <exec> 08└─The really interesting bit about this article isn't that Iron impurities affect LED efficiency - the article and summary already state that this is well known. What's interesting is that they didn't know why Iron did this, as the conventional understanding of the Shockley-Read-Hall process suggested...
[02:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:One word - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:09] <exec> 08└─> Bullshit Based on what evidence?
[02:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Wow, really? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 1240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:14] <exec> 08└─Generally agree, though from my perspective it's not so much the cars stopping as the fact that too many people slam down the accelerator the moment a tiny gap opens in front of them, thus necessitating a quick stop anywhere from a few seconds to a half a minute later. Normally, the best policy in "...
[02:10:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Wow, really? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 440 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:16] <exec> 08└─I also, quite unconventionally, find traffic jams easier in my manual car than in an automatic. Using engine braking and the clutch makes it easier to smooth the speed variations without sending a triple-red "watch out" signal to the guy behind every ten seconds. And I don't [bleep]ing look at my ph...
[02:10:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Re:Smart motorways? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:24] <exec> 08└─Are you sure they are that smart? After all, the Brits voted for Brexit, which will likely doom to the United part of the United Kingdom.
[02:10:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:Smart motorways? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:26] <exec> 08└─"Are you sure they are that smart? After all, the Brits voted for Brexit, which will likely doom to the United part of the United Kingdom." More than 900 years after the Catholic invasion, and more than 800 years after Strongbow, some would view that as not a tragedy, but simply long overdue.
[02:10:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:TPP - 06Clinton V. Trump on Copyrights and Patents: Reading the Platform and the Tea Leaves - 612 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:37] <exec> 08└─and allowing corporations (with more money than some countries) sue countries for loss of revenue if that country decides to, say, SAVE THE FREAKING BEES FROM BEING POISONED. Lets see: 1. Save the bees that help pollinate our food supply 2. Make one corporation a few more dollars. I will screw that...
[02:10:41] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03zocalo [302] 02Re:TPP - 06Clinton V. Trump on Copyrights and Patents: Reading the Platform and the Tea Leaves - 517 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:41] <exec> 08└─Are you sure? My understanding, which tallies with these articles at Snopes [snopes.com] and Politifact [politifact.com], was that Hillary did a retcon of her view while at State (where she did indeed refer to it as "the gold standard") during the *first* debate where she claimed that she had only "...
[02:11:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03KilroySmith [2113] (Score:2) 02Re:Good for them... - 06General Motors Ramps Up Chevrolet Bolt Electric Car Production - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:11:15] <exec> 08└─I don't disagree with the form factor being OK, just the appearance. I'm not normally one to pay much attention to aesthetic design, but as someone on one of the Tesla forums remarked the Bolt looks like it got beat with the UGLY stick. But I guess that's a personal thing.
[02:11:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good for them... - 06General Motors Ramps Up Chevrolet Bolt Electric Car Production - 768 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:11:17] <exec> 08└─Good for GM assembly operations -- from the Reuters article: At GM's Orion assembly plant, Bolts are rolling off the same final assembly line as gasoline-fueled Chevrolet Sonic sedans and hatchbacks. During a tour on Friday, every fourth or fifth car on the line was a Bolt. The Orion plant is worki...
[02:11:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03julian [6003] (Score:2) 02Re:Driverless cars will clog city streets - 06A Slow Ride Toward the Future of Public Transportation - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:11:43] <exec> 08└─Your identity and credit card are on file and your use of the vehicle is logged. So vandalism is probably a non-issue since you can be charged for it. There will probably be cameras in the car, too. Unfortunately this brings up obvious privacy issues. The Government WILL have access to this data; al...
[02:12:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:so, no chance... - 06Pro-Independence Activists Barred From Hong Kong Legislature by China - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:12:36] <exec> 08└─They'll come with yuan and leave with gold. It's the 21st century way.
[02:13:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:''not sure why gewg_ would submit this'' - 06Microsoft Office 2013 is Now Working via CrossOver 16 - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:00] <exec> 08└─Fair enough.
[02:13:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Needs more troll articles - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:13:53] <exec> 08└─Politics gets dragged into everything, and the tone is always "the system is broken, we're all fucked". ... The overall tone of the site itself seems to be nihilistic despair.
[02:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Submissions - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 987 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:14:13] <exec> 08└─and i'm on linux COMPLETELY. I struggle through, i guess, by trying to be better at placing important, constantly accessible folders/files on my desktop, with less imp. on my home folder. Better folder naming, file naming helps. AND BACKUPS! Once i get my raspberry pi setup as a file server with my...
[02:16:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Interesting for AI and mixed for play - 06Google DeepMind to Take on Starcraft II - 693 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:16:37] <exec> 08└─It's necessary to limit APM and perhaps force the computer to "scroll" the screen or "click" the minimap in order to make a fair comparison. The existing Starcraft AI's ability to move almost all of the units instantly isn't interesting. It is a little weirder than the AlphaGo challenge because of t...
[02:18:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Venison is good food - 06Arby's is Selling Venison Sandwiches in Six Deer-Hunting States - 834 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:18:02] <exec> 08└─My mother-in-law tells us of very often taking egg salad sandwiches to lunch with her to school. No refrigeration at the school or at home. She'd eat lunch, and then sometimes be throwing up out back of the school. A lot of kids did that (farm country) and they didn't really realize why. She lost he...
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[03:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Any whale nearby? - 06The Latest on the Crash of ESA's Schiaparelli Lander - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:09:52] <exec> 08└─A few people at the ESA headquarters were heard saying "Oh no! Not again!" and turning around to check the whereabouts of the receptionist's bowl of petunias.
[03:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03snufu [5855] (Score:2) 02Color photographs of the "landing". - 06The Latest on the Crash of ESA's Schiaparelli Lander - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:09:53] <exec> 08└─Faked! I know a cigarette burn when I see one. Rest in pieces.
[03:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:More interesting than I thought - 06Trace Metal Recombination Centers Kill LED Efficiency - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:02] <exec> 08└─So, if you want to be bright: calm your iron?
[03:10:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:More interesting than I thought - 06Trace Metal Recombination Centers Kill LED Efficiency - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:05] <exec> 08└─> Iron in an excited state is a major problem It's an LED, it can blink the safe word.
[03:10:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:Go with the flow? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:19] <exec> 08└─Probably worth mentioning that we also have another system of cameras that works on average speed - you typically get these as temporary installs at major roadworks rather than as fixed VSL setups like those in TFA though
[03:10:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:2) 02Re:One word - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:26] <exec> 08└─A politicians lips were moving.
[03:12:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:1) 02Re:Having had friends there during the handover fr - 06Pro-Independence Activists Barred From Hong Kong Legislature by China - 3290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:12:52] <exec> 08└─I guess I'm the odd man out having no currently-in-touch friends there, but just from the reporting I think I may have gotten an accurate feel for the dynamic. It seems the older generation have mostly made their peace with PRC ownership, but a few of the old ones that never did that are now sprinkl...
[03:14:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Submissions - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:14:56] <exec> 08└─I'd love to hear more about CRISPR
[03:15:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Coincidence? - 06Tsunami of Stars and Gas Keeps an 'Eye' on the Universe - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:15:14] <exec> 08└─and the galaxy died a little...
[03:15:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Exercise Went Like This: - 06NASA and FEMA Conduct Asteroid Threat Response Exercise - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:15:30] <exec> 08└─* Running a tabletop exercise for an asteroid strike is a bit like running a tabletop exercise for alien first contact. Might be nice to establish basic working policy, but won't mean shit if an incident ever actually happens.
[03:15:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Has Samsung Ever Been A Reliable Brand? - 06Samsung Bets on AI to Revitalize Galaxy Phones - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:15:53] <exec> 08└─Rumor has it they make cheap explosives in both handheld and washing-machine form factors! Business is booming!
[03:16:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Re:Google's Phones... - 06Samsung Bets on AI to Revitalize Galaxy Phones - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:16:01] <exec> 08└─your "no added soft/spyware" is a valid point... but you do realize that Google's phone is still manufactured by the other major players like HTC, LG, moto, etc. Maybe not samsung yet, but the other major players have their fair share of problems though not as bad as exploding phones yet.
[03:18:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Absolutely.Geek [5328] (Score:2) 02Re:Venison is good food - 06Arby's is Selling Venison Sandwiches in Six Deer-Hunting States - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:18:13] <exec> 08└─Deer are a pest species here, they literally have no predators other then man, they breed out of control and thus there is a massive wild population; I'm from NZ. The fact that the deer are non-native is of no consequence to weather or not they can be farmed....also all 4 legged animals are non-nati...
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[04:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03timbim [907] (Score:2) 02Money - 06UKs Tesco Bank Hacked - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:09:53] <exec> 08└─> I have an account myself, but I checked this morning and have lost nothing. Yeah, they're not looking for small fish.
[04:10:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:One word - or several - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:10:31] <exec> 08└─"The government says they are used to improve capacity, not generate revenue." Bullshit.
[04:11:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:... - 06Clinton V. Trump on Copyrights and Patents: Reading the Platform and the Tea Leaves - 1755 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:11:12] <exec> 08└─It was a Wednesday. At least I think it was Wednesday, but in the end of days precision became irrelevant. I had not found water in over 24 hours, and of that, I was sure. Just two weeks after President Trump entered hot war with EVERYONE BUT Russia, the world had come to this? I had been wandering...
[04:11:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Cognitive Dissonance - 06Clinton V. Trump on Copyrights and Patents: Reading the Platform and the Tea Leaves - 888 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:11:14] <exec> 08└─I think people who pretend Hillary's position is at all ambiguous here are engaged in some severe cognitive dissonance to enable themselves to vote for her. The copyright industry has already given her millions and more generally she is openly on the take and the copyright industry has plenty to giv...
[04:11:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Off-Shore Wind Capacity is 4.2 Terawatts - 06General Motors Ramps Up Chevrolet Bolt Electric Car Production - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:11:30] <exec> 08└─> I haven't seen what the theoretical solar & wind potential is in the United States, Wind capacity, for off-shore alone, is over 4,200 gigawatts. [cleantechnica.com] To put that in perspective, our current capacity is roughly 1,000 gigawatts [eia.gov] and our levels of consumption is holding steady...
[04:11:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sarasani [3283] (Score:2) 02Re:Driverless cars will clog city streets - 06A Slow Ride Toward the Future of Public Transportation - 754 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:11:56] <exec> 08└─That argument ("Can I put it in your yard?") could be used for a lot of things: Like flying? Well, how about we put a runway through your yard.Like driving fast? How about we put a highway through your yard.Like children being educated? How about we put a kindergarten with a noisy playground in your...
[04:12:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:And the usual problem - 06A Slow Ride Toward the Future of Public Transportation - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:12:23] <exec> 08└─George Hotz has been working on a system that fits on certain Honda models and is based on a Raspberry Pi IIRC. Many modern cars all have the necessary hardware built-in: forward-facing radar, electric steering, electronic throttle and brake control, etc. All you have to do is add some cameras, and...
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[05:10:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03archfeld [4650] (Score:2) 02Re:Wow, really? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:10:32] <exec> 08└─Many commercial trucks these days in the US have sign readers that maintain the speed of the vehicle based on the actual posted signs. Private vehicles need these. Just set the speed to reader/auto and set back and follow the vehicle in front of you. All of this revenue generating BS is going to go...
[05:11:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:... - 06Clinton V. Trump on Copyrights and Patents: Reading the Platform and the Tea Leaves - 656 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:11:07] <exec> 08└─Who would Trump war with? His views on our worldwide militarism has been to have others starting picking up the slack or pulling out. He's done nothing but express a willingness to scale back the US war machine. I imagine the US military would probably cut off Hillary before she can do anything too...
[05:11:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:... - 06Clinton V. Trump on Copyrights and Patents: Reading the Platform and the Tea Leaves - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:11:08] <exec> 08└─I won't even get into the irony of her choosing to base her rejoicing on a quote from Julius Caesar.
[05:11:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good for them... - 06General Motors Ramps Up Chevrolet Bolt Electric Car Production - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:11:35] <exec> 08└─Flatten the nose a little bit and the design language looks a lot like a volvo.
[05:11:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Robots - 06General Motors Ramps Up Chevrolet Bolt Electric Car Production - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:11:37] <exec> 08└─Mixing two completely different powertrains and energy storage systems on the same production line is pretty amazing. When you figure that all the parts that feed into final assembly come "just in time", the scheduling alone must be a huge headache for someone(s).
[05:14:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Re:Needs more troll articles - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 505 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:14:16] <exec> 08└─Entire countries have moved to renewables. There's a new Space Race going on with goals of actual colonization. Every major auto maker has electric cars either in production or in development. A self-described Democratic Socialist ran for nomination in America and was taken seriously. AI is starting...
[05:14:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Submissions - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:14:53] <exec> 08└─Sometimes a good read isn't necessarily good discussion fodder. Doesn't make it less of a good read. Worrying about whether an article generates discussion is what leads to shitty clickbait fodder and stupid "Does $foo mean $bar?" stupid-question-as-a-headline articles. There's already enough of tha...
[05:15:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Submissions - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 521 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:15:17] <exec> 08└─You could always skim slashdot's headlines and see if they've posted anything interesting. ;) The RSS feed is good for that, since the slashdot comments aren't usually worth it anymore, but occasionally they get a submission that's worth checking the original source. Just make sure to write your own...
[05:16:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:We should be very afraid? - 06CDC Identifies Drug-Resistant Candida Auris Fungal Infection in the U.S. - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:16:27] <exec> 08└─So, not the altitude, just the attitude? You have been taking some hard hits here lately, khallow, so I want you to know that you are a valued member of the team. Just let go of the whole climate-denier thing, OK?
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[05:18:26] <exec> 08└─much stricter than they would be in New Zealand
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[06:09:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03StupendousMan [103] (Score:4, Informative) 02"Super" may give the wrong impression - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 672 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:45] <exec> 08└─I'm an astronomer, and I enjoy watching the skies. I like the Moon -- it's my favorite object to scan with a telescope. However, much as it pains me to say it, the difference between an ordinary full Moon and the upcoming "super" Moon is ... not so large. I made a little graphic to show the relative...
[06:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02As Neil deGrasse Tyson puts it - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:46] <exec> 08└─“The supermoon is a 16-inch pizza compared with a 15-inch pizza. It’s a slightly bigger moon; I ain’t using the adjective ‘supermoon.’” This is how the difference is supposed to look: https://commons.wikimedia.org [wikimedia.org] Doesn't seem so "super"...
[06:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Money - 06UK's Tesco Bank Hacked - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:09:55] <exec> 08└─As long as the wankers don't touch my Tesco lemonade [tesco.com].
[06:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Should have banked... - 06UK's Tesco Bank Hacked - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:57] <exec> 08└─...at Aldi.
[06:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02measuring equipment - 06The Latest on the Crash of ESA's Schiaparelli Lander - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:10:07] <exec> 08└─The onboard computer had some problems taking data from different sources, and defining correctly the altitude...
[06:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:2) 02re Landing - 06The Latest on the Crash of ESA's Schiaparelli Lander - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:10:10] <exec> 08└─As any aircraft pilot will tell you, "Landing is a controlled crash" What happened is that the crash wasn't controlled enough! What they needed to do was make the Mars lander ugly, as any plane pilot will tell you, "Helicopters lack the aerodynamic qualities to fly, what happens is that they are so...
[06:10:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"Some acceleration happened..." - 06The Latest on the Crash of ESA's Schiaparelli Lander - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:10:12] <exec> 08└─"The Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator still needs some work. There was supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom."
[06:10:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Re:Smart motorways? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:10:58] <exec> 08└─Sure about that? Turn a fairly significant unified country with wide diversity and an ancient history into an insignificant little European backwater? No, not European. The English don't want to be European.
[06:11:22] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02... - 06Clinton V. Trump on Copyrights and Patents: Reading the Platform and the Tea Leaves - 1596 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:11:22] <exec> 08└─It was a Thursday. At least I think it was Thursday but in the end of days, precision became irrelevant. I had not found water in over 24 hours, and of that, I was sure. Just two months after President Clinton entered hot war with Russia, the world had come to this? I had been wondering for hours; a...
[06:11:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:... - 06Clinton V. Trump on Copyrights and Patents: Reading the Platform and the Tea Leaves - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:11:28] <exec> 08└─And this is the person you want to have ostensible control over the world's strongest military?
[06:12:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sarasani [3283] (Score:2) 02Re:Advantages for traffic transition speeds - 06A Slow Ride Toward the Future of Public Transportation - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:12:41] <exec> 08└─Because humans tend to drive in very suboptimal ways, particularly in heavy traffic.
[06:14:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sarasani [3283] (Score:2) 02Re:Submissions - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 764 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:14:57] <exec> 08└─Yes, it is a great tool. I don't normally spruik anything to my friends (or people I get in contact with), but I gladly make an exception for DevonTHINK. The UI looks a bit dated now, but hey, the tool just works -- that's all that matters to me. And I like how it becomes more useful the more stuff...
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[07:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Poly Ticks - 06Significant Bronze Age City Discovered in Northern Iraq - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:09:43] <exec> 08└─Cheney: "Oh good, another place to invade and fuck up!"
[07:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Poly Ticks - 06Significant Bronze Age City Discovered in Northern Iraq - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:45] <exec> 08└─Well, the alternative would be to wait for them to destroy their own history.
[07:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score:3, Funny) 02Failed the reading test - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:09:55] <exec> 08└─I read the title as "Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetme Supermoron". If that's how well I can read, I guess the supermoron is me. :/
[07:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Failed the reading test - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:57] <exec> 08└─Regardless, be very careful about googling "supermoon"
[07:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score:2) 02The end is nigh - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:09:59] <exec> 08└─Supermoon, Black Moon, the Cubs winning the World Series...the signs are upon us. The end is nigh.
[07:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score:2) 02No Two Factor Authentication - 06UK's Tesco Bank Hacked - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:10:09] <exec> 08└─An interviewee on BBC Radio 4 said that his Tesco Bank account didn't require the use of a "chip 'n' pin device" (read: two factor authentication) for online transactions, whereas his other bank does.
[07:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:re Landing - 06The Latest on the Crash of ESA's Schiaparelli Lander - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:20] <exec> 08└─So Mr. Trump may bring about flying cars?
[07:10:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:One word - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:52] <exec> 08└─A government made the assertion, so where is their evidence that it is true? We know from history that governments will constantly say that X will only be used for Y to alleviate people's fears, but that will not remain true for very long at all.
[07:10:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:One word - or several - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:55] <exec> 08└─"bollocks"
[07:11:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Mass surveillance should be illegal - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 1661 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:11:12] <exec> 08└─All forms of mass surveillance should be illegal. The very idea of mass surveillance is antithetical to democracy and a free society. Mass surveillance isn't justified by the existence of terrorists. Mass surveillance isn't justified by the existence of drunk drivers, criminals, or child molesters....
[07:11:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03danuk [5137] (Score:1) 02I use the smart motorway - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:11:14] <exec> 08└─I use the smart motorway. Before they were installed the traffic was start stop for miles and it was a frustrating commute. Now it flows, i would recommend them. Although.... When they first opened the smart motorway a car had stopped on the hardshoulder and the sensors had not detected it so the la...
[07:11:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:... - 06Clinton V. Trump on Copyrights and Patents: Reading the Platform and the Tea Leaves - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:11:45] <exec> 08└─Yes, all the nuclear powers can be sorted into pairs to which mutually assured destruction applies: USA + Russia Pakistan + India UK + France Israel + Iraq North Korea + Japan
[07:11:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Cannabis For President 2016 - 06Clinton V. Trump on Copyrights and Patents: Reading the Platform and the Tea Leaves - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:11:47] <exec> 08└─There can only be one! Yes We Cannabis!
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[08:09:45] <exec> 08└─ISIS: "Oh good, another place with antiquities to smash and sell!"
[08:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02i rub my cat hair covered nipples - 06Significant Bronze Age City Discovered in Northern Iraq - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:09:47] <exec> 08└─Cannabis for President 2016 YES WE CANNABIS!
[08:09:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03StupendousMan [103] 02"Super" may give the wrong impression - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 672 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:09:54] <exec> 08└─I'm an astronomer, and I enjoy watching the skies. I like the Moon -- it's my favorite object to scan with a telescope. However, much as it pains me to say it, the difference between an ordinary full Moon and the upcoming "super" Moon is ... not so large. I made a little graphic to show the relative...
[08:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Super" may give the wrong impression - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:56] <exec> 08└─Thanks for the graphic! I would add that the Moon illusion [wikipedia.org] probably has a much larger influence on the perceived size of the Moon. The Moon illusion is an optical illusion which causes the Moon to appear larger near the horizon than it does higher up in the sky.
[08:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The end is nigh - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:03] <exec> 08└─Well, I do think the election will go down in history as either The Reformation or The End of Empire. Wonder how long either will last, but it is the dawning of a new age. Here's to hoping we've learned from our mistakes.
[08:11:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03edIII [791] 02Re:TPP - 06Clinton V. Trump on Copyrights and Patents: Reading the Platform and the Tea Leaves - 728 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:26] <exec> 08└─There is no need to even get rabid about the TPP, or argue about it at all. IT'S DEAD ON ARRIVAL. PERIOD. Any legislation that is discussed in secret chambers and held from the public is automatically, permanently, and with extreme fucking prejudice annihilated from the legislators hands . Afterward...
[08:11:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Much More than Copyright - 06Clinton V. Trump on Copyrights and Patents: Reading the Platform and the Tea Leaves - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:34] <exec> 08└─Freedom of speech, which draconian copyright laws reduce, is not minor; it's a fundamental right. The TPP is a business supremacy treaty [stallman.org]. Also, as someone else said, the treaty was negotiated in secret, which would alone make it intolerable.
[08:12:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bradley13 [3053] 02Forget light rail - 06A Slow Ride Toward the Future of Public Transportation - 1835 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:33] <exec> 08└─Light rail works, when cities have grown up around it and are relatively dense. If either of those is not true, light rail is a pipe dream. I say this as someone living in Switzerland: We have "light rail" (we call them trams) in most of our larger cities. It works, it's great. But our cities meet b...
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[09:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03riT-k0MA [88] (Score:2) 02Breaking news! - 06Study Suggests Sperm Count and Quality May be Heritable - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:09:50] <exec> 08└─Genetic defects passed on via DNA. News updates at 11.
[09:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Breaking news! - 06Study Suggests Sperm Count and Quality May be Heritable - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:09:51] <exec> 08└─Just because you expect something to be true doesn't mean that it isn't useful to verify, study, and quantify it. You must have low T (grant plz).
[09:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Well, duh - 06Study Suggests Sperm Count and Quality May be Heritable - 692 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:09:53] <exec> 08└─Because the method can allow non-motile sperm to create an embryo, scientists have suspected that it can pass genetic causes of infertility to the next generation. Well, duh. If the cause is genetic, of course genetics will pass it to the next generation. Water is wet, news at 11. Then they rattle o...
[09:10:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02You think I jumped? Well, fuck you! - 06Significant Bronze Age City Discovered in Northern Iraq - 506 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:10:04] <exec> 08└─Sam Wheat: How long have you been here? Subway Ghost: Since they pushed me. Sam Wheat: Someone pushed you? Subway Ghost: Yeah, someone pushed me. Sam Wheat: Who? Subway Ghost: What, you don't believe me? You think I fell? You think I jumped? Well, fuck you! It wasn't my time! I wasn't supposed to go...
[09:10:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Failed the reading test - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:10:17] <exec> 08└─I read the title as "Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetme Supermoron".
[09:10:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Webweasel [567] (Score:2) 02Re:No Two Factor Authentication - 06UK's Tesco Bank Hacked - 1122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:10:30] <exec> 08└─What does that mean exactly? I am a UK citizen, I have a bank account. I know of no bank that requires two factor authentication with PIN for purchasing online. There is the Verified by Visa system, but this does not ask you for your pin number, only a password. My online banking has an authorisatio...
[09:11:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Definitly - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:11:02] <exec> 08└─Revenue is up an order of magnitude over 5 years but it's not about generating revenue? Right. Just like my city went from $5mil/year to $50mil/year in traffic tickets "for safety, not for revenue".
[09:11:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:Go with the flow? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:11:08] <exec> 08└─Thanks for that. I was aware that they existed - hence the "typically" - but didn't know where one of them was until now. I've driven past that road on the Toll loads of times too (I used to drive from the NW to the SE and back once a week), so I guess that the unintended consequence wasn't needed i...
[09:11:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WTF? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:11:24] <exec> 08└─Maybe it's the location of the clutch he doesn't know.
[09:11:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03tfried [5534] (Score:2) 02Re:Wow, really? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:11:25] <exec> 08└─It will actually help to free up the traffic jam, at least going behind you.
[09:12:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Smart Infrastructure - 06General Motors Ramps Up Chevrolet Bolt Electric Car Production - 829 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:12:27] <exec> 08└─Not likely as long as there is no large-scale storage for energy sources that peak at inconvenient times. Without appropriate battery systems, best you can do is pump up water into some large artificial lake in the mountains and release it through a series of hydroelectric powerplants when needed (f...
[09:13:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Driverless cars will clog city streets - 06A Slow Ride Toward the Future of Public Transportation - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:13:08] <exec> 08└─And where does the concept of privacy fit into all of this? Can I pay these automated Uber cars with cash so I don't have to give away my personal details? Do the Uber cars run proprietary software or conduct surveillance? Any of these ideas that fail to take into account privacy are non-starters.
[09:14:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good. Now write an actual summary. - 06Microsoft Office 2013 is Now Working via CrossOver 16 - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:14:23] <exec> 08└─Based on my experience with regular wine, once you have a version that works, you want to stick with that one anyway.
[09:14:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wine in windows? - 06Microsoft Office 2013 is Now Working via CrossOver 16 - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:14:41] <exec> 08└─Isn't Windows Store exclusive software all games?
[09:14:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why? - 06Microsoft Office 2013 is Now Working via CrossOver 16 - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:14:53] <exec> 08└─And a Mac is so much cheaper than CrossOver? Or are you suggesting people set up a virtual machine as a Hackintosh?
[09:15:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:Needs more troll articles - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 981 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:15:29] <exec> 08└─I do think about commenting on the more technical stuff or the original content stories, but I tend not to bother because when I have posted thoughtful, complex arguments before all I get in return is down-modded and shitpost replies. Unfortunately shitposting is a really effective way to drive peop...
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[10:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02link to the scientific paper - 06Study Suggests Sperm Count and Quality May be Heritable - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:10:01] <exec> 08└─http://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2016/10/05/humrep.dew245.full [oxfordjournals.org]
[10:10:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sarasani [3283] (Score:2) 02Location? - 06Significant Bronze Age City Discovered in Northern Iraq - 532 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:10:14] <exec> 08└─Who is *really* leading the dig? Indiana Jones? I mean, really, the place is only about 100km north of Mosul (which is currently under siege). From the article: Although the excavation site is only 45 kilometers from territory controlled by the Islamic State (IS), it was possible to conduct the arc...
[10:16:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:4 years? - 06NASA and FEMA Conduct Asteroid Threat Response Exercise - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:16:53] <exec> 08└─Given that either Trump or Hillary will be elected in under a day, they're going to have to up their disaster-planning schedule considerably...
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[11:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Let the gene hunting begin! - 06Study Suggests Sperm Count and Quality May be Heritable - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:10:03] <exec> 08└─Now we can start hunting for genes responsible for this reduced quality sperm.
[11:10:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Super" may give the wrong impression - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:25] <exec> 08└─I wonder: how often (if ever) does a "supermoon" coincide with a lunar eclipse? Would that then be called a "supereclipse"?
[11:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The end is nigh - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:33] <exec> 08└─So, if we take all the USA non-voters, the people who don't want the other candidate in office, or just vote but choose out of two candidates they don't like (my feeling is like this is more than 50 percent, but I could be wrong). If all these people would vote for one of the other candidates, would...
[11:10:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The end is nigh - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:35] <exec> 08└─So if we could convince everyone in the world to give me just one cent … what do you say? Unrealistic? Well, it was you who started with unrealistic assumptions.
[11:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The end is nigh - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 497 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:37] <exec> 08└─To be honest, the third party candidates aren't exactly some prize either. They just suck a great deal less than the major candidates. Besides, only the Libertarian Party is on the ballot in all 50 states beyond the major parties, and as much as they are maligned by the left (even though they agree...
[11:10:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score:2) 02Re:No Two Factor Authentication - 06UK's Tesco Bank Hacked - 796 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:49] <exec> 08└─I'll admit that I'm not entirely clued up on this, as I'm not a Tesco customer myself. Re: "Chip and PIN", I assumed that was an uneducated means of describing the 'calculator-like' authorisation device you use. Does Tesco use one of these? My bank uses a smaller device that has no slot to insert th...
[11:11:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Space-trash - 06The Latest on the Crash of ESA's Schiaparelli Lander - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:11:03] <exec> 08└─First we pollute out own neighbourhood... now we start dumping our junk on other planets... the little green Martians will not be happy when we will visit them in a few years.
[11:11:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Variable speed limits - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:11:59] <exec> 08└─Have British drivers experienced the "improved capacity" that the government uses to justify the smart highways?
[11:12:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cognitive Dissonance - 06Clinton V. Trump on Copyrights and Patents: Reading the Platform and the Tea Leaves - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:12:34] <exec> 08└─Land of the Free.
[11:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03chromas [34] (Score:2) 02Re:Driverless cars will clog city streets - 06A Slow Ride Toward the Future of Public Transportation - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:13:34] <exec> 08└─Skies are three-dimensional though. But hey, at least once we have human-delivering drones, ISIS can finally have their own stealth bombers!
[11:15:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Needs more troll articles - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 616 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:15:55] <exec> 08└─I suspect a part of it is that for many people, its psychological that they don't want to downvote someone. We have some breaks in the system as ACs start at 0, and you need high karma to post at 2. We could wield the banhammer with abandon, but that's just going to encourage more people to troll mo...
[11:15:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:Needs more troll articles - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:15:56] <exec> 08└─The only thing I can think of is reviewing mods personally. Meta-moderation is supposed to do it, but I think you need more users for it to be effective. People who moderate things troll, offtopic, overrated or whatever just because they agree should not get more mod points. Hopefully then the probl...
[11:16:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03chromas [34] (Score:2) 02Re:Daylight Savings Time - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:16:04] <exec> 08└─Darth Akyon.
[11:16:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Submissions - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:16:29] <exec> 08└─Must have been Spam abuse. Has nothing to do with partiality there. We laid out what constitutes Spam and if you got your mod privs pulled it's because you didn't follow the guidelines. Also, it would have been for a month not two weeks.
[11:16:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:Submissions - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:16:32] <exec> 08└─How about making down-mods have negative consequences after say the first 2 per day. That way real trolls can still get their -1s, but people who just go around hammering opinions they don't like will soon end up with no mod points. The lack of consequences for bad moderation are what screwed up Sla...
[11:16:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:Submissions - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:16:40] <exec> 08└─I like the social justice stories. Wouldn't it be nice if people could just scroll past the ones they don't like without having to troll the people who want to make genuine comments on them?
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[12:10:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score:2) 02Re:Failed the reading test - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:42] <exec> 08└─Thankfully, I don't have a vote in that particular election. I get to listen to running commentary on it from the other side of the Atlantic, and live with the worldwide political consequences instead.
[12:10:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Quoting yesterday's fortune. - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:10:48] <exec> 08└─Supermoon, Black Moon, the Cubs winning the World Series...the signs are upon us. The end is nigh.
[12:11:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Space-trash - 06The Latest on the Crash of ESA's Schiaparelli Lander - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:11:15] <exec> 08└─At least we'll have something to talk about.
[12:11:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Space-trash - 06The Latest on the Crash of ESA's Schiaparelli Lander - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:11:17] <exec> 08└─We should send a bunch of lawyers up front.
[12:11:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Improve capacity is a side benefit - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:11:47] <exec> 08└─Sounds like a redistribution of funds from the central coffers to the local.
[12:12:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03computersareevil [749] 02Copyright Cartel has backed Clinton with $$$ - 06Clinton V. Trump on Copyrights and Patents: Reading the Platform and the Tea Leaves - 183 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:12:39] <exec> 08└─To the tune of nearly $7,000,000.00 What more do you need to know? https://torrentfreak.com [torrentfreak.com]
[12:12:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score:2) 02Re:... - 06Clinton V. Trump on Copyrights and Patents: Reading the Platform and the Tea Leaves - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:12:47] <exec> 08└─The concept of mutually assured destruction comes from having large arsenals of large nukes squared off on opposing sides. The US, particularly if we regain a little of Russia's and China's good will and get into less of a standoff situation could use any number of nukes in the middle east as long a...
[12:16:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Needs more troll articles - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:16:02] <exec> 08└─Yeah, Citation Needed. The only moderations we override and ban for are misuse of Spam and mod-bombing. You're allowed to moderate as poorly as your little heart desires, you're just not allowed to abuse the system.
[12:16:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Needs more troll articles - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:16:10] <exec> 08└─Socialism of any stripe is not reason for hope but for despair. It takes those who produce and makes them slaves to those who do not.
[12:16:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Needs more troll articles - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:16:16] <exec> 08└─Yeah, the problem is finding someone capable of being absolutely impartial to do it.
[12:16:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Submissions - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:16:51] <exec> 08└─How about giving out ten points a day and only letting five(?) of them go to downmods? Been tossing that one around inside my head for a bit.
[12:16:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:Submissions - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:16:53] <exec> 08└─I like that, but maybe only 2 for down-mods. What we really want is people to up-mod replies that rebuff arguments they disagree with, not simply mod them down.
[12:17:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Submissions - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:17:02] <exec> 08└─It's not trolling to genuinely, fundamentally disagree with the policies of the regressive left.
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[13:09:56] <exec> 08└─Maybe the problem isn't that "florida power and light" doesn't like paris or that they own real estate that might turn into valuable beach front property if the ocean decides to rise. rather, maybe they said to the bank that people will always need electricity (true) and that historically ever more...
[13:09:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Musk is also big business - 06Sharp Momentum Shift On Anti-Solar Amendment 1 In Florida - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:09:57] <exec> 08└─I'm sure Solar City has a bunch of loans that will lose money without feed in subsidies.
[13:09:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03SpockLogic [2762] (Score:2) 02Dishonest Utilities - 06Sharp Momentum Shift On Anti-Solar Amendment 1 In Florida - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:09:59] <exec> 08└─This is an example of the dishonest utility companies trying to protect their bottom lines, aided and abetted by the kleptocracy in Tallahassee, at the expense of we Floridians. VOTE NO ON AMENDMENT 1
[13:10:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:"Super" may give the wrong impression - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 1372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:34] <exec> 08└─I'll certainly agree with you about the unnecessary hype, and the term "supermoon" is unfortunate. (And thanks for the graphic!) But just to play devil's advocate: if you think of this from a layman's perspective -- i.e., the average person who might barely be able to find a couple constellations or...
[13:10:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Quoting yesterday's fortune. - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:47] <exec> 08└─"Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It is already tomorrow in Australia."
[13:10:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Done and dusted? - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:10:48] <exec> 08└─and the hotly contested presidential election will be done and dusted
[13:11:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fnord666 [652] (Score:2) 02Re:Space-trash - 06The Latest on the Crash of ESA's Schiaparelli Lander - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:17] <exec> 08└─Now you're just trying to start an interplanetary incident.
[13:11:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Funny) 02win10 - 06The Latest on the Crash of ESA's Schiaparelli Lander - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:11:19] <exec> 08└─If you look really close you can see the "click here to upgrade to windows 10" I'm sure that interrupted the rocket engine.
[13:11:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Continue imaging - 06The Latest on the Crash of ESA's Schiaparelli Lander - 471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:11:21] <exec> 08└─I wonder if they continue imaging for weeks / months / years if they'll learn anything about the atmosphere and weather from the scorch marks. Shouldn't be hard to generate a model of the scorch marks on the earth. They already saw the parachute move presumably from the wind (or maybe curious martia...
[13:12:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:Wow, really? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 2858 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:12:05] <exec> 08└─yes, THANK YOU for that last bit... i am constantly agog at the stupid and counterproductive measures drivers take to 'save' a second here or there... here are some of my other driving bugaboos: 1. you are cruising a four-lane highway that has little/no traffic to speak of, a ahead is a cluster of 2...
[13:16:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:Needs more troll articles - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:26] <exec> 08└─The usual solution is to have simple guidelines that cover the worst abuses. Doesn't have to be perfect, only 80% coverage with low false positives.
[13:17:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Submissions - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:03] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I expect it'll take some trial and error to find a good balance but we do want people to be able to handle a spam flood as well.
[13:17:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Submissions - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 1683 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:11] <exec> 08└─A live example is the story up right now about the bronze age city discovered in Kurdistan. Pretty cool. Very interesting. Theres one comment and its probably gonna die with that one comment. There's gotta be more to say about it? But what? "Cool thx for the article" plz no spam "This is particularl...
[13:17:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Submissions - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:18] <exec> 08└─Maybe a helpful thing to do is start an editorial calendar to track such things.
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[14:09:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03YeaWhatevs [5623] (Score:1) 02Never heard of it - 06Techrights Turns 10 Years Old - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:09:57] <exec> 08└─Other than advocacy, have they done anything about anything?
[14:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Never heard of them... - 06Techrights Turns 10 Years Old - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:09:59] <exec> 08└─... and how do they and their ideas differ from... for example FSF Europe (They have even RMS on the front page banner)?
[14:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Stop using Ubuntu. - 06Xubuntu 16.10 Yakkety Yak is a Big Improvement Over 16.04 - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:07] <exec> 08└─Moved to Mint and never looked back. The Cinnamon UI is very usable. Or, if you prefer the Gnome 2 look, use Mate. Don't know why people are still using Ubuntu. Unity is hot garbage.
[14:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr. Manhattan [5273] (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:Stop using Ubuntu. - 06Xubuntu 16.10 Yakkety Yak is a Big Improvement Over 16.04 - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:10] <exec> 08└─Unity is hot garbage.
[14:10:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Stop using Ubuntu. - 06Xubuntu 16.10 Yakkety Yak is a Big Improvement Over 16.04 - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:12] <exec> 08└─Mint also has an pre-configured Xfce install as well.
[14:10:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kilo110 [2853] (Score:2) 02Re:Stop using Ubuntu. - 06Xubuntu 16.10 Yakkety Yak is a Big Improvement Over 16.04 - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:14] <exec> 08└─I remember hearing some criticism towards Mint a few years back about their practices. Such as hijacking upstream namespaces and mixing binaries from different sources. Probably others too. I'm not sure if that's still true or not. But I've avoided Mint since.
[14:10:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03driven [6295] (Score:2) 02Xubuntu - 06Xubuntu 16.10 Yakkety Yak is a Big Improvement Over 16.04 - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:16] <exec> 08└─I've used Xubuntu on a few old laptops with good success (though still not quite as snappy as I'd like). Has anyone here using an even lighter weight distro than Xubuntu found that there is much of a performance difference? Or is it perhaps the X applications themselves that become the dominant fact...
[14:10:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02bog down with a heavier DE - 06Xubuntu 16.10 Yakkety Yak is a Big Improvement Over 16.04 - 1302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:18] <exec> 08└─Forget about bogging down on old hardware.... KDE5 is such a dumpster fire I ditched it for Xfce and am really happy. I can't figure out what happened with KDE5. I switched to KDE4 after Gnome 3 ruined Gnome for me (not having fixed, permanent virtual desktops destroyed my whole approach to using a...
[14:10:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:3, Informative) 02Not familiar with Florida, but... - 06Sharp Momentum Shift On Anti-Solar Amendment 1 In Florida - 1036 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:29] <exec> 08└─Let me play devil's advocate here: There is a dark side to solar energy. With traditional generation methods, the energy company controls the production, and it is nice an predictable. With solar, it becomes unpredictable. Clouds move in for an hour or two, energy supply drops through the floor. To...
[14:10:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03rondon [5167] (Score:2) 02Re:Not familiar with Florida, but... - 06Sharp Momentum Shift On Anti-Solar Amendment 1 In Florida - 609 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:32] <exec> 08└─Bradley, That isn't the deceptive part of the amendment, in my opinion. The deceptive part is that it makes it illegal, per the state constitution, to purchase power from anyone other than the utilities. So the current practice (not in Florida, but in other states) of leasing roof space and then sel...
[14:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Another dying format. - 06Sharp Momentum Shift On Anti-Solar Amendment 1 In Florida - 1183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:34] <exec> 08└─The dinosaurs are at it again. Reminds me of the Music industry when napster rolled around. If they weren't completely brain dead, they realize that the typical home solar array wont greatly impact their bottom lines in the long run. In fact, it will help bolster it. How? There is a lot of electrica...
[14:10:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Breaking news! - 06Study Suggests Sperm Count and Quality May be Heritable - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:44] <exec> 08└─Just because you expect something to be useful to verify, study and quantify doesn't mean that it's news.
[14:11:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Quoting yesterday's fortune. - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:22] <exec> 08└─I'm afraid it violates the AU-USSA-SA-TIPPA treaty of 2017 to send information into the past. But consider the two options: If HM Hillary wins should you head for the hills? If Sir Donald wins should you head for the hills? If the answer to both is yes, then heading for the hills now get...
[14:12:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Mykl [1112] 02More interesting than I thought - 06Trace Metal Recombination Centers Kill LED Efficiency - 398 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:12:01] <exec> 08└─The really interesting bit about this article isn't that Iron impurities affect LED efficiency - the article and summary already state that this is well known. What's interesting is that they didn't know why Iron did this, as the conventional understanding of the Shockley-Read-Hall process suggested...
[14:14:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Re:Driverless cars will clog city streets - 06A Slow Ride Toward the Future of Public Transportation - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:27] <exec> 08└─It will first need to get me inside the car. "Please stop spraying my cameras and puncturing my tires. Get inside so I can drive you to the nearest police station, please. You have 15 seconds to comply."
[14:14:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Re:Driverless cars will clog city streets - 06A Slow Ride Toward the Future of Public Transportation - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:29] <exec> 08└─Not if I'm not a customer. "Kick the Uber" might become a favorite pastime in some neighborhoods.
[14:17:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:Submissions - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:17:48] <exec> 08└─Sure, but if you can't state that without calling someone an "SJW" and down-modding them, that's trolling. Honestly, I'd love to have a proper debate about some of this stuff, but even when they get too people in a room with a moderator it's hard to do.
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[15:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Never heard of it - 06Techrights Turns 10 Years Old - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:03] <exec> 08└─A little tangential, but I would like to commend the submitter/editor for the quality of the submission. Right up front they define who they're talking about and put the submission in the proper context. I was not immediately familiar with them either, but once I read some of the background info, it...
[15:10:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03magamo [3037] (Score:1) 02Re:Xubuntu - 06Xubuntu 16.10 Yakkety Yak is a Big Improvement Over 16.04 - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:17] <exec> 08└─If you're looking to stay in the Ubuntu family, there's Lubuntu which is much lighter weight even than Xubuntu
[15:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Xubuntu - 06Xubuntu 16.10 Yakkety Yak is a Big Improvement Over 16.04 - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:18] <exec> 08└─He's not asking whether there are alternatives; he's asking whether the alternatives are noticeably better.
[15:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02'democracy' - 06Sharp Momentum Shift On Anti-Solar Amendment 1 In Florida - 630 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:33] <exec> 08└─I don't get this love of direct democracy. Wading through dozens of potential votes, to fully understand the issues, and make an informed choice, is a major workload. That's why I elect politicians to do this for me, and hold them to account when it comes to electing (or not) them again. By devolvin...
[15:10:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:'democracy' - 06Sharp Momentum Shift On Anti-Solar Amendment 1 In Florida - 831 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:34] <exec> 08└─well, you are wrong on a number of levels, but lets just unwrap a few... BECAUSE OF corrupted pols, we (meaning we the people, not we the korporatocracy) have -for all practical purposes- been locked out of 'normal' means of ballot initiatives to enact laws we the people want, but since they are act...
[15:10:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03fraxinus-tree [5590] (Score:1) 02Re:Breaking news! - 06Study Suggests Sperm Count and Quality May be Heritable - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:45] <exec> 08└─A lot of things that seem to be genetic, in fact are not, or in general case it is not really known.
[15:10:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:Poly Ticks - 06Significant Bronze Age City Discovered in Northern Iraq - 686 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:58] <exec> 08└─War and politics are probably the reasons this site wasn't discovered sooner. Otherwise, I find it hard to believe archaeologists could have missed a major Bronze Age settlement. We have all kinds of tools such as satellite imaging and ground penetrating radar. We've figured out cuneiform writing. I...
[15:12:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Wow, really? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:45] <exec> 08└─2. morons who you are behind at a left turn light, and instead of turning left when it is green, they are precious and special people who take up the WHOLE GREEN LIGHT WAITING to make a u-turn instead of doing a left and a left to get where they are going... selfish pricks, EVERYONE ELSE needs to ma...
[15:12:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Wow, really? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:46] <exec> 08└─Not his problem, and in fact - for better or for worse - most of those idiots are not even remotely aware of the trouble they are causing(*).
[15:12:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Wow, really? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:48] <exec> 08└─but people who stop, when the car in front of theirs hasn't, deserve a lot more scorn than their get. /pet_peeve
[15:13:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mass surveillance should be illegal - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:00] <exec> 08└─Not sure if Poe's Law or RMS
[15:13:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Variable speed limits - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:03] <exec> 08└─A fun variation out there at the moment near me is those diamond construction signs "right lane closed ahead" that for some reason are still in place after they reopened the lane two weeks ago.
[15:14:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score:2) 02Re:Good for them... - 06General Motors Ramps Up Chevrolet Bolt Electric Car Production - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:07] <exec> 08└─Hello Fit Brother... We bought a Fit after a couple months after they came out in the US, and it's still going (knock on wood) with 215k miles. We liked our Fit form factor so much we traded in our Jeep Compass and leased a HRV last year. The HRV is built on the Fit frame and shares a lot of similar...
[15:14:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score:2) 02Re:Driverless cars will clog city streets - 06A Slow Ride Toward the Future of Public Transportation - 1153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:42] <exec> 08└─> And where does the concept of privacy fit into all of this? Same place as always - what you do in public isn't private. Your privacy is waiting for you at the boundary of your property, right where you left it. Unless, somehow, you are living in a world where you can rent cars without showing id,...
[15:17:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Needs more troll articles - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:17:17] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I just don't trust guidelines when it comes to screwing with someone's speech. They may be good, they may be bad, but they're always going to be interpreted differently from person to person. Which is why I did my best to spell out really, really clearly what is and isn't Spam when that modera...
[15:17:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:Needs more troll articles - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:17:19] <exec> 08└─It's impossible to have perfect moderation, but if you don't try you end up with 4chan. So the real question is, where on the spectrum between 4chan and a moderated political debate do you want be?
[15:18:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Submissions - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:18:07] <exec> 08└─Re: calling someone an SJW. If the shoe fits... Re: downmods. I don't downmod people I'm speaking with, as a rule with very, very few exceptions. And I never downmod someone simply because I disagree with them. Gotta set a good example on moderating or I can't be justified when I bitch about bad mod...
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[16:10:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03shipofgold [4696] (Score:1) 02Re:Not familiar with Florida, but... - 06Sharp Momentum Shift On Anti-Solar Amendment 1 In Florida - 2914 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:42] <exec> 08└─Actually Bradley is 100% correct. The power companies are trying to eliminate the practice that currently, anybody with a rooftop solar installation, has the right to have their electric meter run backwards when the Electricity being generated by the Solar panels is greater than that currently in us...
[16:10:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:Not familiar with Florida, but... - 06Sharp Momentum Shift On Anti-Solar Amendment 1 In Florida - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:43] <exec> 08└─With solar, it becomes unpredictable. Clouds move in for an hour or two, energy supply drops through the floor.
[16:10:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Reality check - 06Sharp Momentum Shift On Anti-Solar Amendment 1 In Florida - 2296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:48] <exec> 08└─So we are supposed to be all outraged when one huge industry that is in bed with the government does PR to push it's position against another huge industry that is in bed with the government? In a situation like that, EVERY ad and 'news' article is assured to be propaganda. The article above is an e...
[16:11:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02What ended it? - 06Significant Bronze Age City Discovered in Northern Iraq - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:16] <exec> 08└─I notice that they haven't at least as of yet, mentioned anything before 1300 BC. That could mean that the city bought it in the Late Bronze Age Collapse [wikipedia.org] which is thought to have happened between 1200 and 1150 BC.
[16:11:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Failed the reading test - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:33] <exec> 08└─I have much the same reaction to these kinds of stories, mostly because the people most keen on talking about it tend to be the purveyors of New Age nonsense (professional astrologers in particular).
[16:12:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Continue imaging - 06The Latest on the Crash of ESA's Schiaparelli Lander - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:14] <exec> 08└─Besides from government agency alleged "Earth from space" pictures, there is zero proof that the Earth is a spinning ball, lost in the vastness of endless space. In fact, there is compelling evidence that the surface of the Earth not only is flat as far as eye and instrument can see, but it is also...
[16:12:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:More interesting than I thought - 06Trace Metal Recombination Centers Kill LED Efficiency - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:24] <exec> 08└─What I like about semiconductors is that for them to work, you need to dope them with impurities, but to make good ones you need to make sure your impurities are very pure.
[16:12:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Definitly - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:40] <exec> 08└─Seems legit, driver intelligence just dropped 2 orders of magnitude.
[16:12:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] 02Re:Wow, really? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 169 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:57] <exec> 08└─Rather an asshole maneuver to not only change the speed limit irregularly so people can't get used to it, but then also automatically ticket them when they get it wrong.
[16:13:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Wow, really? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:08] <exec> 08└─I *can't* creep along at 2 mph.
[16:13:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Wow, really? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:10] <exec> 08└─Maybe not 2 mph, but that's rarely necessary. Even relatively heavy stop-and-go traffic often
[16:13:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wow, really? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:14] <exec> 08└─If you're too stupid to read and understand the signs, perhaps you should have used public transport...
[16:13:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wow, really? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:16] <exec> 08└─oh yeah, it's the people's fault b/c they weren't kissing quite enou7gh ass while they're trying to drive. fuck you and your signs paid for with stolen money.
[16:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Smart motorways? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:26] <exec> 08└─b/c a bunch of un-elected thieves in brussels were working in the best interests of the UK? you Stay idiots are ridiculous slaves.
[16:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mass surveillance should be illegal - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:30] <exec> 08└─yes, and it's quite obvious to anyone who isn't a completely brainwashed slave. unfortunately, they seem to make up an alarming percentage of the population.
[16:17:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Needs more troll articles - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:17:44] <exec> 08└─Nah, I trust you guys to shut the channer types down through numbers. When/If that starts to not happen it'll be worth revisiting but not quite yet IMO.
[16:19:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What Asteroid? - 06NASA and FEMA Conduct Asteroid Threat Response Exercise - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:19:29] <exec> 08└─Yes. And it does work that way.
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[17:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Cheer along - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:07] <exec> 08└─I cheer Apple for introducing and its fanboys for buying products implementing new open standards. This way the fanboys pay the development cost and the rest of us can enjoy nominal production cost. At the very least USB1.0 was payed this way.
[17:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:Cheer along - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 450 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:09] <exec> 08└─It's a basic tenet of IT that when someone takes the courageous decision to live on the bleeding edge of technology that they seldom take the time to question where the blood is going to come from first... then act all surprised when it turns out to be their wallet. So, from those of us that live a...
[17:10:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Cornwallis [359] (Score:1) 02"Transitioning" is right - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:11] <exec> 08└─I'm transitioning from my Macbook Pro to a Dell Precision 5510. Less expensive More ram & HD space Faster processor Better video More ports Less expensive Apple blew it this time which is too bad because I really really like my MBP and would have been happy to get another.
[17:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03julian [6003] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Apple's Legacy - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 511 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:13] <exec> 08└─I don't mind the lack of USB-A. USB-C is forward thinking, it'll be standard everywhere soon. But Ethernet, SD card, are not legacy ports. I also need a real keyboard. Professionals who need power want more than 16GB of RAM, more than a dual core CPU, and better GPUs. Losing MagSafe is just baffling...
[17:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Apple's Legacy - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:15] <exec> 08└─I'm sure it's perfect for sitting in a Starbucks while sporting a hipster-douchebag beard and skinny jeans.
[17:10:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03julian [6003] (Score:2) 02Re:Apple's Legacy - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:17] <exec> 08└─Sure, but so is the MacBook. But lets say you're a professional who doesn't care about hardware power or ports. You're a professional writer or journalist, for example. Well the keyboard sucks, the one thing you really need for your job.
[17:10:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondoctor [2963] (Score:2) 02Sayonara - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 570 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:19] <exec> 08└─I got a 128 in 1984, have had at least one (more like 2 or 3) running in my arsenal ever since. These days they mostly run windows and rarely boot into OSX as it's less and less useful. Don't really see buying a new one ever again, honestly. (aside from win/linux boxes current daily drivers are: fas...
[17:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score:2) 02Shove it up your dongle port, Apple. - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 533 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:22] <exec> 08└─USB is considered "legacy" already? >"We want to help them move to the latest technology and peripherals, as well as accelerate the growth of this new ecosystem." Translation: We want to help our pocketbook by changing everything around for no good reason and look like fancy hipsters while doing so....
[17:10:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shove it up your dongle port, Apple. - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:24] <exec> 08└─It was hard to tell if you were trolling or not. Some ports legitimately get retired, but apple really is trying hard to do it the worst way possible.
[17:10:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Needs a parody - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 1631 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:26] <exec> 08└─I'm sure most of us remember those Mac vs. PC ads a few years back with the hip young guy as the Mac and the stodgy jacket-and-tie guy as the PC. I distinctly remember at least a couple of those ads that emphasized the supposed compatibility and flexibility of the Mac -- how easy it was "just out of...
[17:10:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Needs a parody - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:28] <exec> 08└─Microsoft is too much of a sluggish dinosaur to act on this. Same company that made the Scroogled ads that did nothing.
[17:10:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Seriously? - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:30] <exec> 08└─How long before they release new dongles that must be individually charged? [link to Apple's wireless 'Airpod' headphones]
[17:10:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Peak dongle - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:33] <exec> 08└─Apple now sells 17 different types of dongle
[17:10:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:bog down with a heavier DE - 06Xubuntu 16.10 Yakkety Yak is a Big Improvement Over 16.04 - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:57] <exec> 08└─KDE's been better lately. Still hit the very occasional crash and restart of the plasma workspace, but it general it's very solid. Yeah, their timing sucked, as did the drastic changes by most of the desktops when they had the opportunity to grab a lot of people annoyed ant the Windows 8 disaster.
[17:10:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02Re:bog down with a heavier DE - 06Xubuntu 16.10 Yakkety Yak is a Big Improvement Over 16.04 - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:58] <exec> 08└─I only switched to Xfce a couple of months ago, and KDE5 was the same dumpster fire it had been for about a year.
[17:11:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03julian [6003] (Score:3, Informative) 02Audio - 06Xubuntu 16.10 Yakkety Yak is a Big Improvement Over 16.04 - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:11:00] <exec> 08└─Click on the volume icon. Click on sound settings. Nothing happens. This bug has been there for a year. You have to launch pavucontrol through a terminal.
[17:11:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:abandon ship - 06Sharp Momentum Shift On Anti-Solar Amendment 1 In Florida - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:11] <exec> 08└─Ya well power companies can go fuck themselves. Well, the execs and such anyway, let's get the actual workers some donuts!
[17:11:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02foolishness - 06Sharp Momentum Shift On Anti-Solar Amendment 1 In Florida - 1959 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:11:21] <exec> 08└─The sorts of idiots who have taken the Republican party down this road of denial of basic science and fact would also be fools about failing to understand that cheating is weak. It's like trying to win a chess game by snatching an opposing piece off the board when your opponent's back is turned. If...
[17:11:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:foolishness - 06Sharp Momentum Shift On Anti-Solar Amendment 1 In Florida - 2108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:23] <exec> 08└─You think the democrats are not doing the same exact thing? These people give you a face of 'we are going to take down those dirty XYZs' then turn around and do the exact same thing. Take net neutrality. Something all republicans are against? Right? Riiiight? Spin back the clock to 2005. It was the...
[17:11:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Florida is more south than Morocco - 06Sharp Momentum Shift On Anti-Solar Amendment 1 In Florida - 659 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:11:25] <exec> 08└─Florida is more south than Morocco. If a piss-poor African country like Morocco, which is mostly desert, can build a solar power station [google.com] for part of its energy needs, then I don't understand why Florida can't. It's obvious that the Floridans (Floridaians? Florids?) need an energy storag...
[17:11:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03JeanCroix [573] (Score:2) 02What a relief! - 06Study Suggests Sperm Count and Quality May be Heritable - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:11:39] <exec> 08└─It's good to see progress being made on humanity's global underpopulation problem...
[17:12:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Super" may give the wrong impression - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:04] <exec> 08└─I wonder: how often (if ever) does a "supermoon" coincide with a lunar eclipse? Would that then be called a "supereclipse"?
[17:12:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The end is nigh - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:14] <exec> 08└─People say that every four years because they buy into the "if so-and-so wins, it is the end as we know it" crap from cable pundits. Get out of your echo chamber and see that big changes occur over long time frames despite the few isolated 9/11 type events you may want to try and counter with.
[17:12:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The end is nigh - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 624 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:16] <exec> 08└─Truly oh wise one, then riddle me this: Every single point forward is from a long chain of events. At any given point, change is afoot, including this one. Can you name any other election where the presidential candidate didn't have the support of their own party? Or the other candidate is mostly de...
[17:12:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The end is nigh - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:21] <exec> 08└─They just suck a great deal less than the major candidates.
[17:12:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The end is nigh - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:23] <exec> 08└─Correction: you don't know enough about them. I lived in New Mexico under Johnson. He's a competent administrator. Not perfect by any means, but I would have minimal concerns over a Johnson presidency. He did quite well as governor.
[17:12:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No Two Factor Authentication - 06UK's Tesco Bank Hacked - 476 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:40] <exec> 08└─> My online banking has an authorisation device, like a calculator you can plug your card in, enter your pin and you get a hash code to authorise payments. (By payments I mean standing orders and direct debits) That is two-factor authentication. You need to have Factor 1. a password Factor 2. a cred...
[17:12:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:measuring equipment - 06The Latest on the Crash of ESA's Schiaparelli Lander - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:51] <exec> 08└─See, this is what happens when you Eurotards are so intent on using those metric units.
[17:12:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score:2) 02Re:Space-trash - 06The Latest on the Crash of ESA's Schiaparelli Lander - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:59] <exec> 08└─Maybe they will maybe they won't: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[17:13:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Continue imaging - 06The Latest on the Crash of ESA's Schiaparelli Lander - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:04] <exec> 08└─The opportunities are probably pretty limited. If I recall correctly, they were landing in high dust storm season, which would tend to smear out the surface scarring, and I don't know what the overhead imaging revisit time is, but I don't think they can get good pictures at a decent temporal cadence...
[17:15:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Forget light rail - 06A Slow Ride Toward the Future of Public Transportation - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:43] <exec> 08└─Light rail works, when cities have grown up around it and are relatively dense. If either of those is not true, light rail is a pipe dream.
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[18:10:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shove it up your dongle port, Apple. - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:30] <exec> 08└─They'll have to pry my Centronics port out of my cold, dead hands!
[18:10:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03mechanicjay [7] (Score:1) 02Re:Shove it up your dongle port, Apple. - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:32] <exec> 08└─As someone who needs to re-cap his old P3 board just to write some 5 1/4 floppys, I'm with you. I also now need to go buy a new PCI-Express card so I can get 2xRS232 and 1 Parallel port on my new box.
[18:10:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Needs a parody - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:36] <exec> 08└─Not true. Those ads gave Microsoft lots of ideas. After these ads, they started scanning emails, forcing 'telemetry' into their OS, and displaying ads.
[18:10:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] 02Apple lost they mind... ! - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 2293 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:41] <exec> 08└─I've tried to make a comment a number of times, and can't put it into words. Apple has lost their collective minds. You can't just ignore the fact that people use ethernet cables, earphones, USB devices, and so on. Yes, in a perfect world, we might all throw away all our existing gear and buy new eq...
[18:10:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Apple lost they mind... ! - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 784 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:43] <exec> 08└─Maybe it would have gone over better if they included the overpriced dongles for free with the overpriced $1,500 laptops. I'm talking about 2-3 free dongles with each purchase to make sure that USB, HDMI, etc. can connect. Throw in an SD card reader (those are $1-5). The indignation of having been t...
[18:10:44] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:Apple lost they mind... ! - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 391 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:45] <exec> 08└─The thing is, in order for Apple to really recover, I think you'd need to resurrect Steve Jobs, and I don't see that happening anytime soon. Once a large corporation becomes thoroughly established, the kinds of people that rise to the top are no longer creative visionaries but instead ruthless polit...
[18:10:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Uhhh-huhhuh-huh-huhuh...dongle - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 792 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:47] <exec> 08└─There are so many cheap jokes about Apple and "dongles" to be made. But on a more serious note: PizzaRollPlinkett is entirely correct, and Apple have lost their collective minds. This release did just about everything wrong. How much do you want to bet most of the actual Mac team was fired and it's...
[18:10:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03iamjacksusername [1479] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Apple has lost its way - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 1373 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:49] <exec> 08└─What is the famous line? When the only thing you can think of is to start removing features from a product, the product is finished. The laptop as an innovative product is finished. You could make the argument that Apple pioneered the laptop-as-fashion accessory market by making laptops that looked...
[18:11:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:bog down with a heavier DE - 06Xubuntu 16.10 Yakkety Yak is a Big Improvement Over 16.04 - 731 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:17] <exec> 08└─I actually like the concept behind Plasma 5, and as of 5.8 it's really polished and usable. The problem, though, is 1) there aren't any good icon themes and very few Plasma themes; it's all this ugly, antifunctional, postmodern "flat" horseshit, and 2) it's nowhere near as configurable as KDE4 was b...
[18:11:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:'democracy' - 06Sharp Momentum Shift On Anti-Solar Amendment 1 In Florida - 1389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:37] <exec> 08└─Mob rule is less appealing than voting out the politicians in the first place. The 99% have the true voting power, but 75% of that 99% can't be bothered to actually cast a ballot one way or the other. Politicians focus on the people who vote. It doesn't make sense to do otherwise? Being a citizen, a...
[18:11:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03kanweg [4737] (Score:1) 02Re:'democracy' - 06Sharp Momentum Shift On Anti-Solar Amendment 1 In Florida - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:38] <exec> 08└─That you have bad representation is also caused by making irrelevant factors significant in elections. Yes, i mean religion/creationism. A politician won't get voted for unless he's too stupid to understand evolution or if he's smart enough willing to lie to get the job. If you want better represent...
[18:12:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Quoting yesterday's fortune. - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:43] <exec> 08└─Of course you would head for the hills if Hillary wins. If Donald wins, you would head for the Don. [wikipedia.org] :-)
[18:14:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:One word - or several - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:01] <exec> 08└─"Yes, Minister"
[18:14:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Wow, really? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:14] <exec> 08└─It is possible to go consistently faster than the stop-and-go traffic by changing lanes just as your lane starts slowing. It is extremely justified to be called an asshole for doing it.
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[19:10:05] <exec> 08└─Duly appreciated: http://tvtropes.org [tvtropes.org]
[19:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Fast attack - 06The Art of the Fang - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:06] <exec> 08└─Yes, all well and good, but what I want to know ... is how fast can porcupines shoot their quills ...
[19:10:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:"Transitioning" is right - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 886 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:19] <exec> 08└─Thats one low res display... http://www.dell.com [dell.com] The dell is a 1920x1080 which was cutting edge resolution in 2005 or so https://www.apple.com [apple.com] The macbook is 2560x1600 I've had a 1600x1200 first CRT in the 00s and...
[19:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Transitioning" is right - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:21] <exec> 08└─I guess you didn't bother to actually do any research. The M5510 has an option for a 3840x2160 touch screen.
[19:10:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Transitioning" is right - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:23] <exec> 08└─Hmm... I just bought a new HP Envy 15t with the 3k x 2k resolution display.
[19:10:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:"Transitioning" is right - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:25] <exec> 08└─Didn't we just have this discussion, and I pointed out my Asus with a 4K display?
[19:10:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03julian [6003] 02Apple's Legacy - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 511 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:27] <exec> 08└─I don't mind the lack of USB-A. USB-C is forward thinking, it'll be standard everywhere soon. But Ethernet, SD card, are not legacy ports. I also need a real keyboard. Professionals who need power want more than 16GB of RAM, more than a dual core CPU, and better GPUs. Losing MagSafe is just baffling...
[19:10:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Apple's Legacy - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:31] <exec> 08└─has managed to make a machine that is optimal for no one
[19:10:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score:1) 02Re:Apple's Legacy - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 916 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:33] <exec> 08└─It's fairly obvious that the design team at Apple have more power than the function team. As someone who has to deal with Apple stuff from time to time (like when I'm in charge of A/V for some event and there's a projector with a fairly standard DB-15HD VGA connector and someone comes with an Apple...
[19:10:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shove it up your dongle port, Apple. - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:39] <exec> 08└─By definition shouldn't you have died from old age???
[19:10:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02legacy ports - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 1273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:42] <exec> 08└─When things get retired, the replacement often lacks some functionality. Parallel ports allow you to use the machine as a glorified micro-controller Serial ports just work (and can take advantage of interrupt handling). USB to serial adapters are often flakey. Not only is a a polled protocol (requir...
[19:10:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:legacy ports - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:44] <exec> 08└─Hey nice feedback! DMCA can choke and die, along with all other legislation making user's suffer for "profits".
[19:10:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score:1) 02Re:Needs a parody - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:50] <exec> 08└─This is really old (10+ years) but still makes me laugh out loud: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] If you used Macs 10-15 years ago it will bring back memories. If you didn't, you'll be thankful you didn't.
[19:10:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Seriously? - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:53] <exec> 08└─Yes, how dare Apple produce wireless headphones that need to be charged? Why can't they make them run off cold fusion, zero-point energy or by tapping into the user's aura? Name one other manufacturer making Bluetooth headphones that need batteries! I mean, did you ever see Lt Uhura charge her earpi...
[19:10:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Apple lost they mind... ! - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:00] <exec> 08└─True enough, Steve Jobs mastered product development. Instead of starting with Engineering, they started with use-case and worked backwards. This is totally opposite of the his paradigm, and I am sure he is spinning in his grave right about now.
[19:11:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:Apple lost they mind... ! - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:02] <exec> 08└─>Yes, in a perfect world, we might all throw away all our existing gear and buy new equipment But that's exactly what happens in the Apple world. It's unfortunate (for Apple) that the real world is not congruent to the Apple world.
[19:11:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Apple has lost its way - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:06] <exec> 08└─Jobs would never allow apple watch, because it is a product looking for a purpose. "Me Too" is not a fucking business strategy, it's a shitty survival mechanism (looks at Microsoft).
[19:11:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Stop using Ubuntu. - 06Xubuntu 16.10 Yakkety Yak is a Big Improvement Over 16.04 - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:27] <exec> 08└─I actually like Unity, so no Xubuntu for me. But then I used to be a WindowMaker guy.
[19:11:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''KDE5 is such a dumpster fire'' - 06Xubuntu 16.10 Yakkety Yak is a Big Improvement Over 16.04 - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:36] <exec> 08└─In a previous thread in the journal of mcgrew, I addressed the topic You say that the new KDE sucks? [soylentnews.org] Topics: The Trinity desktop environment is a fork of KDE3. Chakra Linux is a distro that uses Trinity by default. -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
[19:11:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Mint is worse imho, Stop recomending it. - 06Xubuntu 16.10 Yakkety Yak is a Big Improvement Over 16.04 - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:39] <exec> 08└─A guess a lot of the people recommending Mint have forgotten about the hacking incident involving mint servers, and mints lack luster desire to back port security fixes.
[19:11:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''the hacking incident'' - 06Xubuntu 16.10 Yakkety Yak is a Big Improvement Over 16.04 - 537 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:41] <exec> 08└─What was hacked was closed-source software that they used as a front end to their site (and which hadn't been updated). They took the site offline and the flaws were fixed within a few days. Their site is also HTTPS-only now. For the tiny amount of manpower they have, they do a pretty good job. If t...
[19:11:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03rondon [5167] 02Re:Not familiar with Florida, but... - 06Sharp Momentum Shift On Anti-Solar Amendment 1 In Florida - 609 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:53] <exec> 08└─Bradley, That isn't the deceptive part of the amendment, in my opinion. The deceptive part is that it makes it illegal, per the state constitution, to purchase power from anyone other than the utilities. So the current practice (not in Florida, but in other states) of leasing roof space and then sel...
[19:11:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02physics: the grid can't handle that - 06Sharp Momentum Shift On Anti-Solar Amendment 1 In Florida - 557 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:57] <exec> 08└─You can't just shove power in at one location and extract it at another with 100% efficiency. Even if you could, the capacity isn't there. Enron took advantage of this. They would ship power through the grid for the sole purpose of occupying capacity, forcing cities to buy from expensive near-by gen...
[19:12:00] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] 02Re:'democracy' - 06Sharp Momentum Shift On Anti-Solar Amendment 1 In Florida - 831 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:01] <exec> 08└─well, you are wrong on a number of levels, but lets just unwrap a few... BECAUSE OF corrupted pols, we (meaning we the people, not we the korporatocracy) have -for all practical purposes- been locked out of 'normal' means of ballot initiatives to enact laws we the people want, but since they are act...
[19:12:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:"Super" may give the wrong impression - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:49] <exec> 08└─You don't need to wait for a once-in-a-lifetime event to see how amazing the sky is. Find the local amateur astronomy club and find their Star Party schedule. If it is clear out, I guarantee you will see something amazing.
[19:13:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Nowhere near "once in a lifetime" either. - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 1083 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:10] <exec> 08└─Using this site: http://astropixels.com [astropixels.com] It reveals the following: Perigee distance on: November 15, 2016: 356,523m November 25, 2034: 356,448m January 13, 2036: 356,531m (8 meters more distant) This is all very cool, but at these ranges it's a pr...
[19:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:No Two Factor Authentication - 06UK's Tesco Bank Hacked - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:25] <exec> 08└─But when you buy on-line you normally have to have a valid shipping address. This isn't exactly true for anything you can download, of course. But paying for something to be shipped somewhere doesn't do you much good unless you can pick it up at that somewhere. This isn't the same as walking out of...
[19:14:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:WTF? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 643 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:40] <exec> 08└─I know how to use a clutch, which allows for smooth and precise speed tweaks without ever touching the brakes. Even in modern auto transmissions, where you can change gears much easier than the old ones, you don't have the fine-grain control of coasting... Done that the other day on an LA highway, m...
[19:15:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:... - 06Clinton V. Trump on Copyrights and Patents: Reading the Platform and the Tea Leaves - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:36] <exec> 08└─Israel + Iraq? Iran maybe? Or Saudi Arabia more likely.
[19:16:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Driverless cars will clog city streets - 06A Slow Ride Toward the Future of Public Transportation - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:16:45] <exec> 08└─Same place as always - what you do in public isn't private. Your privacy is waiting for you at the boundary of your property, right where you left it.
[19:18:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02Re:Why? - 06Microsoft Office 2013 is Now Working via CrossOver 16 - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:18:34] <exec> 08└─I've only known crossover as an OSX application, didn't realize it was also for linux when I posted - if you're running OSX you don't need MS Office because it's own suite is almost fully compatible. For Linux I guess this would be useful, especially if the only windows thing you want is office. Fra...
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[20:10:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Alternative - 06Anesthesia Before Age 4 Has Only a Minor Effect on Academics Later - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:12] <exec> 08└─People who go to the doctor for every little thing are more likely to have children that score lower on IQ tests.
[20:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Fast attack - 06The Art of the Fang - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:21] <exec> 08└─How fast can you throw the porcupine?
[20:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Cornwallis [359] (Score:1) 02Re:"Transitioning" is right - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:36] <exec> 08└─Exactly and it is gorgeous. Beats the Mac hands down.
[20:10:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:"Transitioning" is right - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 674 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:37] <exec> 08└─Close, I screwed up in posting my results because I should have specified I was comparing a $1500 dell to a $1500 mac, not a $1800+ dell to a $1500 mac which seems a bit unfair. I would agree with you in theory that if money is no object you can find some kind of gaming laptop or something that near...
[20:10:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:"Transitioning" is right - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:42] <exec> 08└─I do believe you're right. The situation was identical, the manufacturers own website always claims a lower resolution than SN commenters report. Must be a "windows thing" to never update your website or something like that.
[20:10:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:"Transitioning" is right - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 2198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:44] <exec> 08└─You can get the 4k screens on windows laptops (3840X2160). However, be prepared to pay a decent amount for it. There are not any blackfriday specials with that screen res. At least 1080 is the bare min and the screens are actually easy to find now. For awhile they were a real PITA to get, 720 was th...
[20:10:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:"Transitioning" is right - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:46] <exec> 08└─I can think of a few people who will NOT be happy with the ESC key missing (anyone who uses VI).
[20:11:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score:1) 02Re:Shove it up your dongle port, Apple. - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:00] <exec> 08└─Or try something like one of these: http://www.ebay.com [ebay.com] http://www.ebay.com [ebay.com] (which I sh...
[20:11:05] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03theluggage [1797] 02Seriously? - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 122 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:11:05] <exec> 08└─How long before they release new dongles that must be individually charged? [link to Apple's wireless 'Airpod' headphones]
[20:11:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Apple lost they mind... ! - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 505 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:16] <exec> 08└─> the real world is not congruent to the Apple world. In the real world, Apple's strategically disseminated bank accounts require 12 figures to get summed. Most banks don't have that much in liquid assets, and a whole lot more regulation on how they can use them. Apple pulls billions of dollars in p...
[20:11:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Apple lost they mind... ! - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:18] <exec> 08└─I ask you all this: what takes more creativity: a) throwing perfectly good, older hardware out. b) making use of perfectly good, older hardware. A is wasteful. B is creative and better for the planet and everyone's pocket book. Be a B, eh?
[20:11:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02With the recent "M$ Loves Linux" nonsense... - 06Techrights Turns 10 Years Old - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:11:31] <exec> 08└─With the recent "M$ Loves Linux" nonsense and other closed-source entities trying to glom onto the attention that Free Software is getting, editor Roy Schestowitz, PhD has added an Openwashing / Pseudo-Open Source section to the site's quasi-daily news digest. As mentioned in TFS, the site's recent...
[20:11:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Should be married off by now. - 06Techrights Turns 10 Years Old - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:11:32] <exec> 08└─Fuck you, women.
[20:11:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:''the hacking incident'' - 06Xubuntu 16.10 Yakkety Yak is a Big Improvement Over 16.04 - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:56] <exec> 08└─Forgetting about the ISO images being replaced by the hackers, aren't we?
[20:11:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mint is worse imho, Stop recomending it. - 06Xubuntu 16.10 Yakkety Yak is a Big Improvement Over 16.04 - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:58] <exec> 08└─Ubuntu is just as bad with their backporting. Hell debian HAS the fixes and ubuntu just has not bothered to pull them in. That IS their upstream.
[20:12:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Not familiar with Florida, but... - 06Sharp Momentum Shift On Anti-Solar Amendment 1 In Florida - 580 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:15] <exec> 08└─Houses with solar panels should sell their production at spot prices, because meters are now good enough to figure that out. Actually, they should get a small bonus over spot, because there are virtually no transport losses when all you do is feed your neighbor. The utilities would be happy, and it...
[20:12:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02That is a good thing. - 06Sharp Momentum Shift On Anti-Solar Amendment 1 In Florida - 585 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:17] <exec> 08└─The deception is gross, but the goal is good. This is about SolarCity's scam. SolarCity is welcome to **sell** and/or **install** panels in Florida. Running their scam isn't OK. People sign up for SolarCity, then try to sell their house. If SolarCity doesn't love the new buyer, they say "no" and for...
[20:12:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:'democracy' - 06Sharp Momentum Shift On Anti-Solar Amendment 1 In Florida - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:25] <exec> 08└─Take the 18-30 yo demographic;[snip] they can't be bothered to actually go out and cast their ballot!
[20:12:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Florida is more south than Morocco - 06Sharp Momentum Shift On Anti-Solar Amendment 1 In Florida - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:32] <exec> 08└─Floridians https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[20:12:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Florida is more south than Morocco - 06Sharp Momentum Shift On Anti-Solar Amendment 1 In Florida - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:34] <exec> 08└─Florida has choices that Morocco doesn't. Florida has nuclear. Florida has expensive land compared to Morocco. Florida has people who object to clearing natural land. Florida is largely swamp. In any case, this law has nothing to do with utility-scale solar. It's about residential solar, an entirely...
[20:12:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Another quality comment generating article - 06Sharp Momentum Shift On Anti-Solar Amendment 1 In Florida - 414 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:12:37] <exec> 08└─I love seeing people crawl out of the woodwork to explain how real democracy is stupid and we should feel bad for the monopoly that works at being "just good enough". I know, lets get a dictator to run the US! Then we can do away with pesky regulations and protesters, who cares how its done as long...
[20:12:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"Heritable" - 06Study Suggests Sperm Count and Quality May be Heritable - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:12:51] <exec> 08└─"Heritable" strikes me as a really awkward word. Same for others? "Inherited" could have been used instead.
[20:13:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Wait until Egypt goes full-on islamist - 06Significant Bronze Age City Discovered in Northern Iraq - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:07] <exec> 08└─Remember how the Taliban destroyed the giant Buddha, and how ISIS leveled Palmyra. It'll happen again someday, wiping out the Pyramids and all the rest. This is something to think about when Egypt goes crying that ancient artifacts should be returned to Egypt.
[20:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03cykros [989] (Score:2) 02Re:The end is nigh - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 996 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:36] <exec> 08└─They're maligned by the left because the extreme wing of the party is a lot louder than the sensible majority. When the party's impression is formed by people who would remove taxes to even upkeep basic infrastructure (like roads), you can't expect the bulk of the nation to take it seriously. What t...
[20:20:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:Submissions - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:20:40] <exec> 08└─If the startup scene didn't totally suck and if it had any creativity at all, some kind of "community calendar" social media technology would seem to be very start up able. Good luck with the UI, dealing with spam, thats where all the secret sauce would lie.
[20:20:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Submissions - 06State of the Soylent: Community Roundtable - 1179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:20:41] <exec> 08└─Right but just like BBS software, or web discussion emulation of it, isn't a 3-d simulation of writing on notecards and sticking them on a physical cork board.. Another good analogy is I'm old enough to have experienced the last few years of log files being a printer typing out logs and the logs get...
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[22:44:06] <exec> 08└─For lo, shall the land be torn asunder as the horsemen ride. Until dawn shall they tremble, knowing the full wrath their wicked ways have brought forth will come to fruition. The skies will grow light, then burn with an orange intensity so bright none shall dare look upon it. Only the skies will be...
[22:44:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Great! - 06The New 64-bit Orange Pi is a Quad-core Computer for $20 - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:44:16] <exec> 08└─^ Pretty much this. Why should I want this? ARM processor... nothing fancy (or more open) ARM GPU.... no open (or closed) drivers (there seems to be that someone is reverse engeneering them currently) Network chipset... who knows what it is? Or if it is supported.
[22:44:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:Great! - 06The New 64-bit Orange Pi is a Quad-core Computer for $20 - 547 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:44:18] <exec> 08└─If you look at the comments section at CNXSoft [cnx-software.com], you'll find this board is actually the first of it's kind to offer an EEPROM. The hope being that, eventually, a uboot firmware could be fitted for generic sdcard and network booting. So, while it's true that it's not as well support...
[22:44:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Great! - 06The New 64-bit Orange Pi is a Quad-core Computer for $20 - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:44:20] <exec> 08└─Being burnt by getting a Banana PI, i think ill stick with better supported hardware. Raspberry may not be the 'best' out there but at least it 'works' without fighting with it...
[22:44:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Don't List Price Without Shipping It's Meaningless - 06The New 64-bit Orange Pi is a Quad-core Computer for $20 - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:22] <exec> 08└─Please don't waste our time with false price headlines.
[22:44:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't List Price Without Shipping It's Meaningl - 06The New 64-bit Orange Pi is a Quad-core Computer for $20 - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:44:24] <exec> 08└─What, you're telling me you can't walk to orangepiss HQ?
[22:44:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't List Price Without Shipping It's Meaningl - 06The New 64-bit Orange Pi is a Quad-core Computer for $20 - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:44:26] <exec> 08└─Ok, I can be reasonable. I won't complain about Soylentnews leaving out the shipping cost if they also include the increased cost of the food(oranges not raspberries of course), and shoes I would have to buy for my 3000km walk to the orange Pi retail outlet. :)
[22:44:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't List Price Without Shipping It's Meaningl - 06The New 64-bit Orange Pi is a Quad-core Computer for $20 - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:44:28] <exec> 08└─It's in the links: The Orange Pi Zero [hackerboards.com] is selling for $7 plus shipping to the U.S., for a total price of $10.30, with 256MB RAM or $9 ($12.30) for the 512MB version. Orange Pi PC2: [aliexpress.com] US $5.45 to United States via AliExpress Standard Shipping Estimated Delivery Time:1...
[22:44:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What year is this? - 06The New 64-bit Orange Pi is a Quad-core Computer for $20 - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:31] <exec> 08└─Posted Sep 7, 2015?
[22:44:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What year is this? - 06The New 64-bit Orange Pi is a Quad-core Computer for $20 - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:44:33] <exec> 08└─Where are you seeing that? The two linked sites that give a date show "yesterday" and "Nov 3, 2016". Did I miss something?
[22:44:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What year is this? - 06The New 64-bit Orange Pi is a Quad-core Computer for $20 - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:44:35] <exec> 08└─nvm, I missed the second tech crunch link. mod parent "wrong", please.
[22:44:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:What year is this? - 06The New 64-bit Orange Pi is a Quad-core Computer for $20 - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:44:37] <exec> 08└─We actually can't. We live in a happy world where we can applaud you in many ways. But, while we can disagree with you or tell you you're a troll, we cannot bluntly express our conviction that you are factually wrong.
[22:44:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Alternative - 06Anesthesia Before Age 4 Has Only a Minor Effect on Academics Later - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:44:48] <exec> 08└─doctors are very smart and emit a high IQ field which can and does induce high IQ in their immediate vicinity. it drops off, however, with square root of distance : )
[22:44:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:Pinning the blame - 06Anesthesia Before Age 4 Has Only a Minor Effect on Academics Later - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:44:52] <exec> 08└─It's an open-access study, so maybe go read it? Have questions, there is contact info for the corresponding author for just such an emergency. I'm almost certain you will get more accurate information from doing that than asking on here.
[22:44:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Boys and girls and testing. - 06Anesthesia Before Age 4 Has Only a Minor Effect on Academics Later - 3834 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:55] <exec> 08└─Interesting, but still leaves me with questions. Looking from the cohorts selected I'm in this study - I didn't have surgery before age four but for all other aspects (age and birth country). It's not like children go to the hospital to huff gas for fun, not a service provided by hospitals in Sweden...
[22:44:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02fully fledged! - 06Anesthesia Before Age 4 Has Only a Minor Effect on Academics Later - 805 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:58] <exec> 08└─everybody knows that 4 years before the age of 10 equals about 30 years before 100. so if you miss 5 minutes as a kid before 10 then that equals multiple months as a grown up. that's how life works. so if you get "put under" as a kid you miss out ALOT. (miss one week in school and YOU"RE FUCKED FOR...
[22:45:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03rleigh [4887] (Score:2) 02Re:Apple's Legacy - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 2564 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:45:38] <exec> 08└─I do mind the lack of USB-A. Almost every peripheral I own uses it, and I'm not going to replace my monitor, printer, scanner, keyboard, mouse, USB pendrives and other storage, and other miscellaneous gadgets, just because Apple deemed it "legacy". I use this stuff all the time, and needing a rats n...
[22:45:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02Re:Shove it up your dongle port, Apple. - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:45:44] <exec> 08└─His ps/2 keyboard in one hand, his other clutching a collection of cables for devices that died long ago...
[22:45:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03quacking duck [1395] (Score:2) 02Re:Seriously? - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 624 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:45:59] <exec> 08└─I vehemently disagreed with Apple's removal of the headphone jack. That said... -1 moving the goalposts You: "it's that they're making wireless headphones only" theluggage: (links to a wired headphone that Apple's making) You: "Because making wired headphones you have to buy from them because nobody...
[22:46:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Seriously? - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:00] <exec> 08└─Hey, the OP started the argument with a purposely obtuse, sarcastic post. Doesn't that give me a Get Out Of Fallacy Free card? :) And yeah, after I did that last post I googled a bit. D'oh. Note the one you linked is 50 bucks; are they actually competitive on price point by now? Compared to a cheapo...
[22:46:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03pipedwho [2032] (Score:1) 02Re:Seriously? - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 521 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:02] <exec> 08└─The iPhone 7 comes with a 3mm headphone to Lightning adapter. Mine permanently lives on my earphones. I gave the lightning earphones to my wife to use on her iPhone 6. No idea why people complain about this. The only drawback is if you listen to music while the phone is charging, then you need an ad...
[22:46:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Seriously? - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 667 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:05] <exec> 08└─It just seems rather stupid and inconvenient to get rid of the jack in the first place. If you're just going to offer an adapter for the same thing... I don't really understand the whole obsession with making devices thinner either. Given the choice between having an mp3 player 1 mm thinner, or one...
[22:46:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03rleigh [4887] (Score:2) 02Re:Seriously? - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 1420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:07] <exec> 08└─"with a single wire, you're actually going to be in a much better place than before" No, I'll be in *exactly the same place I am now*, except I'll have had to spend several hundred pounds on adapters, docks and other junk, just to use all my existing gear like I do today. This is not benefitting me...
[22:47:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Not familiar with Florida, but... - 06Sharp Momentum Shift On Anti-Solar Amendment 1 In Florida - 794 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:10] <exec> 08└─The power companies are trying to eliminate the practice that currently, anybody with a rooftop solar installation, has the right to have their electric meter run backwards when the Electricity being generated by the Solar panels is greater than that currently in use by the homeowner. This is common...
[22:47:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:foolishness - 06Sharp Momentum Shift On Anti-Solar Amendment 1 In Florida - 1808 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:24] <exec> 08└─Both are corrupt. But there is a difference. Republicans embraced the anti-science, anti-education, and anti-fact crowd. They want to instill propaganda in our children, and call that education. Democrats aren't above lying and denial-- their stance on intellectual property law and love affair with...
[22:47:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02solar powered LED? - 06Sharp Momentum Shift On Anti-Solar Amendment 1 In Florida - 918 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:47:32] <exec> 08└─may i add this little thought experiment? a LED is a tiny atomic junction that emits light. tiny. atomic. now take a DC LED lamp and hold it up to (or next to) a 100 KVA A/C transformer. you see? no problem. nobody complains. just buy and install. on the other hand, take a 300 watt solar panel (1 x...
[22:47:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Breaking news! - 06Study Suggests Sperm Count and Quality May be Heritable - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:43] <exec> 08└─"prospective parents were informed that it may well be that their sons may have impaired sperm like their fathers" news at 9.02 ... after it's over? in other news, anyone with money for the procedure can get a baby-making oven -aka- trophy wife and make babies .. including not so smart bay ovens ......
[22:47:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Heritable" - 06Study Suggests Sperm Count and Quality May be Heritable - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:50] <exec> 08└─It is the term used in Campbell Biology, which is probably the best-selling college text.
[22:47:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Absolutely.Geek [5328] (Score:2) 02Re:"Heritable" - 06Study Suggests Sperm Count and Quality May be Heritable - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:52] <exec> 08└─Not really. Heritable == Can be inherited. Inherited == Has come from your parents.
[22:48:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02Re:Location? - 06Significant Bronze Age City Discovered in Northern Iraq - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:48:06] <exec> 08└─This was my first reaction, Northern Iraq is supposed to be a hot zone currently. However my understanding is that the territory handled by the Kurds is the most stable, and this article supports that. Still, when interviewing for my current job (25-50% travel requirement), the only stipulation I ga...
[22:48:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03kazzie [5309] 02Failed the reading test - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 128 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:48:23] <exec> 08└─I read the title as "Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetme Supermoron". If that's how well I can read, I guess the supermoron is me. :/
[22:48:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:The end is nigh - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:48:39] <exec> 08└─Supermoon, Black Moon, the Cubs winning the World Series, a sensible majority of the Libertarian Party?...the signs are upon us. The end is [-nigh-] here!.
[22:48:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The end is nigh - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:48:40] <exec> 08└─And you haven't been marked a troll immediately upon making your presence known. It is truly the end of days.
[22:48:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:The end is nigh - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:48:42] <exec> 08└─And you haven't been marked a troll immediately upon making your presence known. It is truly the end of days.
[22:48:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Nowhere near "once in a lifetime" either. - 06Here Comes a Once-in-a-Lifetime Supermoon - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:48:50] <exec> 08└─I was going to say "quit it with your boring logic, we finally have an apolitical topic" ... but oh well, maybe next time.
[22:49:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03bobmorning [6045] (Score:1) 02Interesting word-smithing in the article - 06The Latest on the Crash of ESA's Schiaparelli Lander - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:49:29] <exec> 08└─If you click on the link to the color photographs and read the accompanying text it says some non-sense like ".....here is a picture of the lander and it's hardware components". Really? How about "....here is a picture of the lander wreckage..."? Got to spin it to the very end, don't they?
[22:50:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03tangomargarine [667] 02Wow, really? - 06Smart Motorways Catch More Than 1,000 Speeding Drivers a Week - 58 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:50:09] <exec> 08└─More than 1,000 motorists a week are being caught speeding
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[23:44:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:3, Interesting) 02No no no no no no no! - 06Earthquake in Oklahoma Town - 650 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:44:01] <exec> 08└─Guys, we said the the North would get the blizzards, tornadoes and the long winters, the South and South East would get the hurricanes, tornadoes and humidity, and we were really clear that all of these wouldn't matter because "at least we don't get earthquakes like the West coast". That's the way i...
[23:44:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Listen to science - 06Earthquake in Oklahoma Town - 530 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:44:02] <exec> 08└─The geologists have been, for years, saying "Hey, you can't just dump waste underground without there being problems. Keep up that hydraulic fracturing, and you'll cause earthquakes." And the companies and the politicians that work for them have responded with "Quit worrying, we'll be fine." and don...
[23:44:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Listen to science - 06Earthquake in Oklahoma Town - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:44:04] <exec> 08└─Pre-fracking there were no earthquakes in that area... right? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.
[23:44:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Listen to science - 06Earthquake in Oklahoma Town - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:44:06] <exec> 08└─Rocket theoreticians are never believed until the shit mixes with the O2 line.
[23:44:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Orange Pi? - 06The New 64-bit Orange Pi is a Quad-core Computer for $20 - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:44:26] <exec> 08└─I thought that it was yellow, sort of the color of Mountain Dew, and if you're like me a caffeine addict, it has as much caffeine. Anyway, I like the idea of cheap little computers like this. It bodes well for the future, does it not?
[23:45:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Transitioning" is right - 06Dongle Dilemma Provokes Apple Price Cut - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:17] <exec> 08└─Works good for me.
[23:46:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Stop using Ubuntu. - 06Xubuntu 16.10 Yakkety Yak is a Big Improvement Over 16.04 - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:46:21] <exec> 08└─mixing binaries from different sources.
[23:46:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Xubuntu - 06Xubuntu 16.10 Yakkety Yak is a Big Improvement Over 16.04 - 410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:46:27] <exec> 08└─And until one installs them both on the same hardware and uses them in the same way, the question remains unanswerable. XFCE is not noticeably lighter than KDE anymore, and that hasn't been their focus for a few years now. They are all about refining their integration at this point. Try Manjaro. Its...
[23:46:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Xubuntu - 06Xubuntu 16.10 Yakkety Yak is a Big Improvement Over 16.04 - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:46:29] <exec> 08└─Has anyone here using an even lighter weight distro than Xubuntu found that there is much of a performance difference?
[23:46:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:bog down with a heavier DE - 06Xubuntu 16.10 Yakkety Yak is a Big Improvement Over 16.04 - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:46:35] <exec> 08└─If you haven't figured out how to do ALL of those you must have spent all of 12 minutes running KDE/Plasma. There are three alternative menuing systems switchable in real time and all are very configurable. There are more icon themes than you ca shake a stick at, 1175 Icon Themes on kde.org. At leas...
[23:47:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03gordo [1169] (Score:1) 02Re:Not familiar with Florida, but... - 06Sharp Momentum Shift On Anti-Solar Amendment 1 In Florida - 789 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:47:02] <exec> 08└─Well first of all, I think if you consider that solar capacity would be additive to existing power generation, then all else being equal, adding solar capacity (as uneven as it might be) does not *require* new power generation to be built per se. Second, when solar power generation is spread over a...
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