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[00:09:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02First idiot Post - 06Beverage Industry Funded Research Downplays Soft Drink Ties to Obesity and Diabetes - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:42] <exec> 08└─What?? The first post doesn't say, "I never drink soda because soda pop is for losers and poor people!" That was your first mistake. Your second mistake was to write "n/t" instead of Show some elitism, idiot.
[00:09:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:First idiot Post - 06Beverage Industry Funded Research Downplays Soft Drink Ties to Obesity and Diabetes - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:44] <exec> 08└─h'e's al'so man'aged to' g'et a stra'y qu'ote in a' two-'wor'd tit'le...
[00:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02 - 06Beverage Industry Funded Research Downplays Soft Drink Ties to Obesity and Diabetes - 2 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:46] <exec> 08└─
[00:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02My own test... - 06Beverage Industry Funded Research Downplays Soft Drink Ties to Obesity and Diabetes - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:09:48] <exec> 08└─I used to drink a 6 pack of soda per day, my weight was 265 lbs and I was 6 feet tall. I switched from soda pop to bottled water, changed nothing else in my lifestyle, and lost 50 lbs over a period of 6 years.
[00:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My own test... - 06Beverage Industry Funded Research Downplays Soft Drink Ties to Obesity and Diabetes - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:50] <exec> 08└─But how much height did you gain, and how much pussy did you score as a result?
[00:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My own test... - 06Beverage Industry Funded Research Downplays Soft Drink Ties to Obesity and Diabetes - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:52] <exec> 08└─I actually gained 1/4 inch in height unbelievably. The second one was never a problem.
[00:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Differentiate the sweeteners - 06Beverage Industry Funded Research Downplays Soft Drink Ties to Obesity and Diabetes - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:09:55] <exec> 08└─High fructose corn syrup is thought to cause diabetes all on its very own. IIRC, it's about how sweet your body *thinks* it is. Strangely enough, that makes Stevia the worst on that basis. I would have liked to see the study differentiate straight refined cane sugar against other sweeteners. Probabl...
[00:10:07] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ikanreed [3164] 02But just think! - 06Pipeline Explosion in Alabama Kills 1, Injures 5 - 108 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:10:07] <exec> 08└─If we have cops violently beat a few more native Americans in the Dakotas, we can have even more explosions!
[00:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:But just think! - 06Pipeline Explosion in Alabama Kills 1, Injures 5 - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:14] <exec> 08└─Solar Disaster ! Widespread Chaos ! Untold Proportions ! Incalculable Damages ! Um, a solar panel installer fell off the roof and broke his neck and died. oh... S-o-o-o-o-o-l-l-l-l-l-a-a-a-a-a-r-r-r-r-r ! ! !
[00:11:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Are the Turks stupid? - 06Turkey's Erdogan Continues Crackdown on Media with Detention of Cumhuriyet Newspaper Staff - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:11:03] <exec> 08└─> Perhaps there is something the Turks know I don't, but why in the name of hell would any country want to buy any F-35's Why should the arms industry profit only from Americans? why not get some NATO allies onboard too? Pecunia non olet. "Nice country you have there. It would be a pity if NATO sudd...
[00:13:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:1) 02Re:Slashvert much? - 06MOD Duo is a Linux-Based Programmable Stomp Box for Musicians - 735 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:13:44] <exec> 08└─The Fender Mustang? They have a linux client? I am guessing it's not free even if they do have one though... Nonetheless I feel like a fool not knowing that. Never saw a mention of it that I can recall. I considered the Mustang, wound up with a rebuilt Line6 that will do a lot more than I can really...
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[01:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Bank and Switch - 06The Shadow Brokers Identify Hundreds of Targets Allegedly Hacked by the NSA - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:09:43] <exec> 08└─Wait, so Trump was actually secretly communicating [slate.com] with the NSA? Is that better or worse than Alfa Bank?
[01:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02National Security - 06The Shadow Brokers Identify Hundreds of Targets Allegedly Hacked by the NSA - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:09:45] <exec> 08└─Once again proving that the greatest threat to the national security of the United States.... is the government of the United States.
[01:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Wow! Who Would Have Guessed! - 06Beverage Industry Funded Research Downplays Soft Drink Ties to Obesity and Diabetes - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:10:00] <exec> 08└─In other news, the foxes say there is no direct link between their recent take over of the task of guarding the hen house and the sudden decline in the chicken population. Now, let us check in in what the Kardashians are up to!
[01:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmn32480 [443] (Score:2) 02Blackberry still exists? - 06BlackBerry Partners With Ford to Work on Expanding the Use of QNX OS - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:10:07] <exec> 08└─Holy crap... that IS news!
[01:10:24] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03sjames [2882] 02Re:nine man crew - 06Pipeline Explosion in Alabama Kills 1, Injures 5 - 216 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:24] <exec> 08└─That's why you should always carry a couple feet of fiber in your pocket. If you get stranded in the middle of nowhere just bury the fiber. When the guy comes along to dig it up and break it, you can get a lift home.
[01:10:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Headline/summary - 06Pipeline Explosion in Alabama Kills 1, Injures 5 - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:31] <exec> 08└─Clearly the fire injured the other people.
[01:12:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02a long-overdue reckoning - 06Canary Islands Chosen as Backup Site for the Thirty-Meter Telescope - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:12:29] <exec> 08└─Yeah, 200 years and people gris are still unwilling to acknowledge the inherited power inequities of our modern state. And that's why these conflicts are happening. They are part of a long-overdue reckoning, a truthful facing of our history and ourselves.
[01:13:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Slashvert much? - 06MOD Duo is a Linux-Based Programmable Stomp Box for Musicians - 621 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:53] <exec> 08└─It is free actually, and is hosted on BitBucket [bitbucket.org]. It's also included in the Ubuntu repos now I believe. Don't think it uses binaries, except that it will actually run firmware patches (which are binaries) on the amp, which is super nice for those of us that don't run Windows at all. I...
[01:14:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02How does it compare to eventide - 06MOD Duo is a Linux-Based Programmable Stomp Box for Musicians - 322 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:14:01] <exec> 08└─Seems interesting but it looks weak compared to https://www.eventideaudio.com [eventideaudio.com] + https://www.eventideaudio.com [eventideaudio.com] ... But since it cost i little fraction of the eventide kit i...
[01:14:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Some call me Tim [5819] 02Maybe not so free. - 06Smart Glass Taps Into Beer Drinker's Data - 437 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:14:13] <exec> 08└─Just wait until that data gets to your health insurance provider and they raise your rates because you scanned all your friends glasses too. Then there's auto insurance, employers etc. Lots of ways for that data to be abused and you know it will be if some company can make a buck. Oh, and don't spil...
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[02:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Credit for class at least - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:09:42] <exec> 08└─Damned sure a lot more dignified than stealing all the W keys from every computer in the White House.
[02:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Obama knows his way around Twitter and FB - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:09:43] <exec> 08└─But the next POTUS will need some training.
[02:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:National Security - 06The Shadow Brokers Identify Hundreds of Targets Allegedly Hacked by the NSA - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:09:53] <exec> 08└─Robert Anton Wilson put this more succinctly, all the way back in the late 70s. "National Security is the number one cause of National Insecurity."
[02:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Found one - 06The Shadow Brokers Identify Hundreds of Targets Allegedly Hacked by the NSA - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:09:55] <exec> 08└─Patchicillin!! An insidious tool that can rebuild itself into software after devs are able to patch it...
[02:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My own test... - 06Beverage Industry Funded Research Downplays Soft Drink Ties to Obesity and Diabetes - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:09] <exec> 08└─It is incredibly believable, most people are 1/4"+ taller in the morning since during the day their spine gradually compresses and releases at night. 50 lbs. will likely add a bit of compression!
[02:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Imagine! - 06Beverage Industry Funded Research Downplays Soft Drink Ties to Obesity and Diabetes - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:10:12] <exec> 08└─Just think, if scientists all had good ethics...
[02:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sarasani [3283] (Score:2) 02Good to see - 06BlackBerry Partners With Ford to Work on Expanding the Use of QNX OS - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:10:21] <exec> 08└─Good to see BlackBerry still making something out of QNX. Hoping to hold on to their more "serious" phone customers, BlackBerry invested significantly in this technology. QNX was meant to save the company from going under and beef up its fight against iOS and Android (which were catering to the "App...
[02:11:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03datapharmer [2702] (Score:2) 02Re:Once we're down to 3 holders of infrastructure - 06CenturyLink to Buy Level 3 Communications for $25 Billion - 430 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:11:47] <exec> 08└─Yep. I took over it for a company being double billed for dsl for years. Finally annoyed them enough they sent someone out and I asked them to physically show me the other dsl line. They tried and tried and I helped by giving them the address on the bill (which was the central office). They finally...
[02:12:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The day of reckoning will be comical... - 06Spinach Plants Turned into Bomb Detectors - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:12:25] <exec> 08└─Follow up with some Olive Oil?
[02:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:1) 02Re:Slashvert much? - 06MOD Duo is a Linux-Based Programmable Stomp Box for Musicians - 658 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:14:13] <exec> 08└─"It is free actually, and is hosted on BitBucket." Man I was so ready to call bullshit on that. "Compilation If you want to compile PLUG yourself, download the latest source code (https://bitbucket.org/piorekf/plug/get/tip.tar.gz) and read on." less README "1. Compilation To build program requires Q...
[02:14:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Slashvert much? - 06MOD Duo is a Linux-Based Programmable Stomp Box for Musicians - 634 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:14:15] <exec> 08└─Sorry dude. Seems like a nice humanoid as well. I needed some help from him on something USB related and he helped greatly. The really weird thing is I think I used some other free, non music-related software of his at some point as well. Small world in the open-source community it seems. Good luck...
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[03:09:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not only that - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:09:44] <exec> 08└─He's also going to leave the next President boots on the ground in more countries than there were in 2008. And ISIS, which should have been rooted out by now, if President Putt Stop wasn't too busy appearing on light night TV and campaigning for his successor to do any actual work.
[03:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02The laptop in the oval office - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:09:45] <exec> 08└─will be 100% compromised by the NSA, along with some snapchat filters, a fark bookmark, and a standing invitation for the spouse to be on Ellen.
[03:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Phew! - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 861 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:09:47] <exec> 08└─That was a close one. At least now we know that there won't be any issues or surprises in January. And here I was afraid that all 20 people who listen to Obama on twitter were going to have to update to listening to @RealPOTUS, followed by @RealRealPOTUS, followed by @POTUSPussyCrusher69 (ya know, w...
[03:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Michelle Obama's FLOTUS account - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:09:50] <exec> 08└─So Bill will take over this I presume if HRC wins? First Lecher Of The United States! The very first. Good ol'U.S. of A. Still the land of innovation
[03:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02Innovation? - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:52] <exec> 08└─1. find a way to get the worst possible candidates running against each other. 2. find a way to get power/money/sex so mixed up, none of the candidates or their spouses or children seem to know what is "correct" behaviour around women. 3. have so many dodgy, broken, hackable election technologies th...
[03:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Innovation? - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:54] <exec> 08└─3. have so many dodgy, broken, hackable election technologies that no one can really trust the results, anyway.
[03:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Twitter? - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:09:56] <exec> 08└─If Twitter goes tits up, who is going to archive all the tweets?
[03:10:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:Imagine! - 06Beverage Industry Funded Research Downplays Soft Drink Ties to Obesity and Diabetes - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:25] <exec> 08└─Hmmm, I can be ethical, or I can starve my family. Decisions, decisions.
[03:11:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:Once we're down to 3 holders of infrastructure - 06CenturyLink to Buy Level 3 Communications for $25 Billion - 976 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:11:55] <exec> 08└─I, by contrast, am a democratic socialist, precisely because I think that socialism is a really effective tool for combating the problems that capitalism is particularly bad at dealing with, and is a tool we don't employ enough, at least in the United States. Among the problems that you didn't menti...
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[04:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mykl [1112] (Score:2) 02So, no keylogger-free versions for sale? - 06Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - 408 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:09:46] <exec> 08└─Much as we all hate to admit it, there _are_ some business-critical applications (e.g. some games on Steam) that require Windows to be installed. It's the only time I use Bootcamp on the Mac. I'm really not keen on 'upgrading' to Win10 given the issue of keystrokes and similar data being sent back t...
[04:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02You already have your answer - 06Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:09:47] <exec> 08└─No, giving up my games is not an option.
[04:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Windows is bullshit - 06Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:09:49] <exec> 08└─Torrent the good versions. Run it in a VM. You should use Linux instead. Fuck, I'm shure I forgot something. Meme me, bros!
[04:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03gmrath [4181] (Score:1) 02Re:Credit for class at least - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:09:59] <exec> 08└─Wow, haven't heard that one before. Stealing the "W" keys from all the computers in the White House? Must be a ton of computers there. I'll bet that'll keep the all the flunkys from the veep on down gainfully employed for a while, prying off all those pesky "W" keys.
[04:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02Re:Innovation? - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:10:08] <exec> 08└─I'm still in awe of the old-school foul-up, the hanging chad.
[04:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:2) 02Re:Innovation? - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:10:10] <exec> 08└─To me, a "hanging chad" just sounds like someone didn't learn how to wipe their arse properly.
[04:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02Re:Innovation? - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:10:12] <exec> 08└─"hanging chad"
[04:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Michelle Obama's FLOTUS account - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:10:15] <exec> 08└─Strange, this page, https://www.houseofnames.com [houseofnames.com] says that the Letchers first came to England with the wave of migration after 1066... Or did you mean that other kind of letcher? That might have been Ben Franklin who seems to have been carrying on in both Franc...
[04:10:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Twitter? - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:10:18] <exec> 08└─Supposedly the Library of Congress [loc.gov], but it's not going so well [theatlantic.com].
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[05:09:40] <exec> 08└─I'm in this camp: I also won't give up my games. However, steam has a lot of Linux games. 73 of my 89 steam games run on Linux nativly, and most of the rest work well enough under Wine. I have not booted my Windows install in over 6 months. I have had issues with a few games on Wine that were not ea...
[05:09:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03nethead [4970] (Score:1) 02Re:Windows is bullshit - 06Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:09:42] <exec> 08└─BSD is Dead, but hey, zombies are cool.
[05:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02End of line for Win 10 - 06Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:09:44] <exec> 08└─"The Windows Lifecycle chart for sales doesn't have an end date for Windows 10, since that operating system doesn't have a successor." Sure it does: just about any Linux distro, even those with systemD.
[05:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03nethead [4970] (Score:1) 02Re:Credit for class at least - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:09:54] <exec> 08└─From the Grey Lady herself: http://www.nytimes.com [nytimes.com] I'm still voting for her.
[05:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Innovation? - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 423 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:10:05] <exec> 08└─> 1. find a way to get the worst possible candidates running against each other. Oh please. clinton is far from the worst possible candidate. she's an ambitiously competent bureaucrat, no different from someone like biden or gore. but as there is no archetype for an ambitiously competent woman the c...
[05:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Differentiate the sweeteners - 06Beverage Industry Funded Research Downplays Soft Drink Ties to Obesity and Diabetes - 1553 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:10:36] <exec> 08└─The problem is excess sugar consumption, period. Replacing the HFCS in somebody's Super Big Gulp with sucrose isn't going to magically make drinking large quantities of soda healthy. There's a lot of misunderstandings when it comes to evaluating research on HFCS (mostly because people confuse pure f...
[05:10:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02Re:More interesting - 06Beverage Industry Funded Research Downplays Soft Drink Ties to Obesity and Diabetes - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:10:42] <exec> 08└─Ver much this. I remember reading an article, may have been here on SN but can't remember, that said a small build up of fat on some organ was directly linked to type 2 diabetes. I've also never met a skinny person with type 2, and I'm not sure that I've ever heard of one.
[05:10:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02So... - 06BlackBerry Partners With Ford to Work on Expanding the Use of QNX OS - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:10:52] <exec> 08└─Research In Motion changes its name to BlackBerry, then stops making BlackBerrys and starts researching systems for vehicles. Got it.
[05:12:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Once we're down to 3 holders of infrastructure - 06CenturyLink to Buy Level 3 Communications for $25 Billion - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:12:10] <exec> 08└─I pay $15/mo for ATT broadband and it's not slow either...
[05:14:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeVilla [5354] (Score:1) 02Re:Slashvert much? - 06MOD Duo is a Linux-Based Programmable Stomp Box for Musicians - 1127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:14:42] <exec> 08└─I liked the story. I'll be watching this project/product pretty close. I've been trying yo talk myself into buying a modeling amp recently as it is. I'm fond of the fender mustangs (I'd really love a twin, but I just can't justify a 150 watt amp) but the vyper pro is a really impressive amp. The dow...
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[06:09:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02Cool! - 06Google Speeds Up Chrome Browser with Microsoft's Profile Guided Optimization - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:33] <exec> 08└─Does this effect the Linux version? Can VS cross compile?
[06:09:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So, no keylogger-free versions for sale? - 06Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - 603 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:09:44] <exec> 08└─My Dad and I were discussing this with regards to new additions of software and Windows 10. At least for him, it is putting him in a position of not updating to newer software versions unless they are compatible with Windows 7 or possibly running Linux for web applications and air-gapping a Windows...
[06:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:2) 02Re:Windows is bullshit - 06Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:09:47] <exec> 08└─Meme me, bros!
[06:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score:2) 02Nobody wants Windows 10 - 06Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - 552 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:51] <exec> 08└─By chance I was actually just discussing Windows 7 Vs Windows 10 with someone earlier today and it still seems that most average people out there strongly prefer Windows 7 over 10. Even though 10 sort of went back to a desktop model, nobody wants all that mobile shit, advertising, or spyware. BTW, I...
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[06:10:02] <exec> 08└─Unless Mr. Trump wins. He clearly gets social media. He is, for better and worse, the first candidate who has gotten as far as he has in no small part because of social media. Obama may have had a following, but it's just not the same as Mr. Trump's. Obama won people over by speeches and debates. Ev...
[06:10:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:2) 02Re:Bank and Switch - 06The Shadow Brokers Identify Hundreds of Targets Allegedly Hacked by the NSA - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:10:23] <exec> 08└─This is a story that, as far as I can tell, has received effectively no coverage. It's really a bit technical, and doesn't have any ending, but there is clearly something going on. Why no press? Clearly, the "liberal media" is just out get Trump on this?
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[07:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Cool! - 06Google Speeds Up Chrome Browser with Microsoft's Profile Guided Optimization - 401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:41] <exec> 08└─Only the Windows version of Chrome browser has gotten this treatment, but other compilers have PGO capability (I don't know which one is best at it): https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] Here is Firefox with PGO using GCC 4: https://developer.mozilla.org
[07:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So, no keylogger-free versions for sale? - 06Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:53] <exec> 08└─Yeah, because Steam is a business-critical application.
[07:09:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nobody wants Windows 10 - 06Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:59] <exec> 08└─Why people put up with such copy protection is nuts.
[07:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Re:Obama knows his way around Twitter and FB - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:12] <exec> 08└─Is that a genuine Mr. Trump tweet you're reading? [soylentnews.org]
[07:10:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The laptop in the oval office - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:15] <exec> 08└─The laptop in the whitehouse will be spied up by the NSA? The same group controlled by them? Really? Go on how that is a bad thing.
[07:10:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02Re:Innovation? - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:26] <exec> 08└─So, hyperbole. I am sure there are a few people out of the eligible millions who'd be better candidates, and a better President than either of the current options.
[07:10:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02@FLOTUS? - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:10:31] <exec> 08└─Sure hope it's more like first gentleman -- something like a '@FGOATSE'.
[07:10:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My own test... - 06Beverage Industry Funded Research Downplays Soft Drink Ties to Obesity and Diabetes - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:57] <exec> 08└─4 pounds in 2 weeks so far with my test.
[07:11:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Never heard that one before. - 06BlackBerry Partners With Ford to Work on Expanding the Use of QNX OS - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:11:16] <exec> 08└─http://www.zdnet.com/article/is-there-life-for-microsoft-in-the-automotive-space-after-ford/ [zdnet.com]
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[08:09:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Wait a minute ... - 06Google Speeds Up Chrome Browser with Microsoft's Profile Guided Optimization - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:09:44] <exec> 08└─> tools that measures how users actually interact with an application Cool, what hidden feature do people really do with their browser, which major players will finally focus on for optimization? > speed up startup times (...), new tab page load times (...), and overall page load times [facepalm]
[08:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03nishi.b [4243] (Score:2) 02a feature of microsoft visual studio ? - 06Google Speeds Up Chrome Browser with Microsoft's Profile Guided Optimization - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:09:45] <exec> 08└─PGO exists in gcc, clang, intel c compiler... Basically in most modern C compilers ! So why call it "Microsoft's so-called Profile Guided Optimization technology" ?
[08:12:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Re:Sigh. - 06Turkey's Erdogan Continues Crackdown on Media with Detention of Cumhuriyet Newspaper Staff - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:09] <exec> 08└─What's fascinating is the US is selling them F-35s
[08:14:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Re:The usual "mail that needs to be answered" - 06George Hotz's Comma.Ai Cancels Comma One - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:40] <exec> 08└─The agency wants to know what is it that Comma.ai is trying to sell, and when it is going to be selling.
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[09:09:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Most of Education is Waste - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 434 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:09:37] <exec> 08└─Cursive writing may as well be typewriter class. It serves little purpose, but should be counted as an art. A better class would be on taking notes shorthand, or using the Palmer method for similar reasons. Why must literature always be Chaucer and Twain? Why not have a business class with case stud...
[09:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Most of Education is Waste - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:09:38] <exec> 08└─So you equate "useful" with "business"?
[09:09:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Most of Education is Waste - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:09:40] <exec> 08└─But of course! There is no value to education for a mercenary. Unless it is the Mercenary Professor! Have terminal degree, will travel, able to teach anything for the right amount of money! Will not do Windows, business case studies, or "applied" math. References upon request.
[09:09:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Pictograms - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:09:42] <exec> 08└─> Communication of the future will be done with pure emoticons. Don't knock it. That's basically the way a billion chinese people already communicate.
[09:09:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 3691 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:09:45] <exec> 08└─Please tell me why you want to force your kids to learn cursive. Do you think they are unable to communicate via non-electronic means without it? No. Do you think that non-electronic means will be their primary communications medium? Surely not. Like someone who continues to teach how to use a typew...
[09:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Still in Business - 06Tech Advances Since the Last Cubs World Series Win - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:09:53] <exec> 08└─How many companies are as old? We've had similar articles about the Red Sox lifetime of failures, it's an easy article to do. There is one technical change I wish would be undone. Relief pitchers. This lets the starting pitcher throw more intentional balls, which delays the game, and then the fresh...
[09:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wait a minute ... - 06Google Speeds Up Chrome Browser with Microsoft's Profile Guided Optimization - 2163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:10:04] <exec> 08└─But hey, the tool detected that people start the browser, open new tabs and load pages! Who would have thought? ;-) But more seriously: This description of the tool, while not strictly speaking wrong, is utterly misleading: It doesn't figure out what high-level features the users use, it figures out...
[09:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:a feature of microsoft visual studio ? - 06Google Speeds Up Chrome Browser with Microsoft's Profile Guided Optimization - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:10:07] <exec> 08└─Because it's the one from Microsoft that Google happened to use?
[09:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:a feature of microsoft visual studio ? - 06Google Speeds Up Chrome Browser with Microsoft's Profile Guided Optimization - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:10:09] <exec> 08└─That blurb “explains” PGO as MS invention which it isn’t.
[09:10:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sarasani [3283] (Score:4, Informative) 02Browser Optimisation 101 - 06Google Speeds Up Chrome Browser with Microsoft's Profile Guided Optimization - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:10:11] <exec> 08└─Run NoScript, RequestPolicy, uBlock, PrivacyBadger, or a combination of these. With all the crappy JavaScript bloat that powers websites these days, I'd rather read the (much faster) "text only" version than the "assume the position" version.
[09:10:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Linux on the desktop - 06Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - 533 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:10:29] <exec> 08└─So, now we can officially say that Linux has about 33% of the desktop market, with Apple having the other 66%. Microsoft finally killed their last desktop OS, now betting the company 100% on their broken tablet OS named Windows 10. (Anyone disagreeing about Windows 10 being a tablet OS, please tell...
[09:10:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Innovation? - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:10:52] <exec> 08└─As any real Aussie knows, they're called "dags", as in "rattle your dags!"
[09:11:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:Differentiate the sweeteners - 06Beverage Industry Funded Research Downplays Soft Drink Ties to Obesity and Diabetes - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:11:29] <exec> 08└─Calorie per calorie, the specific formulation of sugar matters. [nih.gov] Just because skipping sugar entirely is healthier doesn't mean we shouldn't look for the better sweetener.
[09:12:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:Wannabe dictator - 06Turkey's Erdogan Continues Crackdown on Media with Detention of Cumhuriyet Newspaper Staff - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:12:43] <exec> 08└─A non-Christian, non-indigenous-European nation has no business being in the European Union.
[09:14:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Oooh, gotta love those shades of grey - 06Canary Islands Chosen as Backup Site for the Thirty-Meter Telescope - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:14:17] <exec> 08└─Ooh, "24 inches", you say? Was that the site of the ancient US Navy 60cm telescope?
[09:16:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:They want information on my consumption habits? - 06Smart Glass Taps Into Beer Drinker's Data - 1337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:16:21] <exec> 08└─You can't prove that A (quality) is correlated to B (price) by explaining the correlation to C (alcohol). Alcohol has nothing to do with anything - most Cantillons are exactly the same 5% as BMC. Why did you even introducce that. In particular given that you then go on to deflate your own prior argu...
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[10:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score:2) 02Re:Most of Education is Waste - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 986 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:09:49] <exec> 08└─Some education is more transferable though. At least typewriter class is transferable to modern keyboards. I am a self taught typist, but I could have taken typing in school - I did computing instead which was probably more useful, and cooking (because I like eating...) My wife on the other hand can...
[10:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:09:52] <exec> 08└─Please tell me why you want to force your kids to learn cursive.
[10:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:2) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:09:54] <exec> 08└─Chromebooks are also an option. :-) But PARENTS insist on iPads because "they look nice and that other nice school has them". Tell me about it... I have to manage them.
[10:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:2) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 1425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:09:56] <exec> 08└─Oh, and please don't fall into the fallacy of "today's tech is what the kids will learn and be stuck with". That's not true either. I was brought up on a single BBC Micro in the back of a classroom, about 2 in the school, and now manage the IT in a school with thousands of devices each of unimaginab...
[10:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 1122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:09:59] <exec> 08└─Exactly. My handwriting has always sucked. I spent several years having to do extra practice, fairly regularly missing break and lunchtimes to do it and having extra handwriting practice to do after school. My average grade in English was a C+ right up until age 14 when we were suddenly allowed to s...
[10:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score:2) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 1492 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:01] <exec> 08└─If you care about learning and the effectiveness of learning, then taking manual notes is still a lot better than using a computer and typing. There are many studies that show the relation very clearly. Pupils and students typing on their computer retain less of the subject matter and at lower under...
[10:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score:2) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:03] <exec> 08└─Please tell me why you want to force your kids to learn cursive.
[10:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Drogman [2422] (Score:1) 02Sad times ... - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 561 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:10:06] <exec> 08└─As a 53 year old left-hander with dyslexia, I do not welcome this. I was persecuted at school due to my dreadful writing, spelling and reading skills. To this day I still struggle reading joined up writing and would much rather type. My nieces, aged 5 and 8 are already very good readers and reasonab...
[10:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Without cursive, what passes for a signature? - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 3 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:10:08] <exec> 08└─-nt
[10:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02A relic of days gone by - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 1113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:10:10] <exec> 08└─Cursive is a relic of days gone by. It was important, when interpersonal written communication was largely handwritten: cursive is faster than printing. The same goes for notes and records: your calendar, balancing your bank account, etc. Guess what: typing is even faster. If you need to produce lot...
[10:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03iwoloschin [3863] (Score:2) 02Fine Motor Control? - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 526 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:10:12] <exec> 08└─So cursive itself might not be incredibly useful anymore, but does the teaching of cursive help with the development of fine motor control? Typing becomes a bit too "digital" (oh my god, so many puns), mostly because the keys never move around, unlike writing which can be quite freeform. I suspect m...
[10:10:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:a feature of microsoft visual studio ? - 06Google Speeds Up Chrome Browser with Microsoft's Profile Guided Optimization - 1302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:34] <exec> 08└─Because it's a TechCrunch article, which is written by muppets. It's quite interesting that they got this much of a speedup, but it's not totally unexpected. Modern toolchains combine PGO with LTO - when you're running whole-program optimisation, you need to know which code paths are hot because oth...
[10:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03KritonK [465] (Score:2) 02The real issue - 06Google Speeds Up Chrome Browser with Microsoft's Profile Guided Optimization - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:10:36] <exec> 08└─From the end of TFA: Given that PGO isn’t exactly new, though, it does come as a bit of a surprise that the team didn’t use this technique already.
[10:11:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sarasani [3283] (Score:2) 02Re:Obama knows his way around Twitter and FB - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:11:09] <exec> 08└─To be fair, HRC already knows how to pip-squawk about running her own mail server, so I'm sure she'll soon work out how to tweet...
[10:11:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sarasani [3283] (Score:2) 02As smooth as the last one? - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:11:28] <exec> 08└─He left us a mess to clean up, and then took off quietly... [staticflickr.com]
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[11:09:51] <exec> 08└─where "voluntary" means you'll pay an extra amount up to £350 if you choose to protect your privacy
[11:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03riT-k0MA [88] (Score:2) 02Re:How frequently? - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:09:53] <exec> 08└─TFA says "The scheme is voluntary, and will only offer discounts rather than price increases, which could be worth up to £350 a year" Usually helps to RTFA :-)
[11:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How frequently? - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:09:55] <exec> 08└─Is this the Sky version of "discounts"? They /literally/ put on on the bill: > Charge for not having Sky Phone: $amount_the_discount _for_having_it > Charge for not having Sky TV: $amount_the_discount _for_having_it How that is legal, I have no idea.. > Charge for not giving us your facebook data: $...
[11:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sarasani [3283] (Score:2) 02Black Mirror - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:09:57] <exec> 08└─This is eerily similar to Black Mirror's episode "Nose Dive" (s03e01). Future, here we are...
[11:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Webweasel [567] (Score:2) 02Re:Black Mirror - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:09:59] <exec> 08└─That episode was so good, scared the crap out of me.
[11:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Invisible hand - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:10:02] <exec> 08└─Don't worry - the free market will sort this out, the invisible hand means that if this is good it will catch on, and if it's bad admiral will suffer.
[11:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Webweasel [567] (Score:2) 02Re:Invisible hand - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 1227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:04] <exec> 08└─Will it? The free market does not like my car (Toyota Celica GT4 - Japanese grey import), to the extent that I can find very few insurers who will give me a policy, despite having 15 years no claims bonus with 9 of those on the car. I am with Admiral because they will insure the car (£280 a year fu...
[11:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:3, Touché) 02so, no farcebook... - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:10:06] <exec> 08└─...no license ? ? ? guess i'll be walking a lot more...
[11:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Most of Education is Waste - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:18] <exec> 08└─Cursive writing may as well be typewriter class. It serves little purpose, but should be counted as an art.
[11:10:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:24] <exec> 08└─I was brought up on a single BBC Micro in the back of a classroom, about 2 in the school, and now manage the IT in a school with thousands of devices each of unimaginable speed and capacity for 7-year-old me.
[11:10:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 525 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:26] <exec> 08└─i was brought up counting on fingers and toes, and yet *somehow* i soldiered through and done did learnded them computer-brain machine things... oh, i was also taught cursive, and while i am not sure it is a useful skill in general, i have used my cursive in various artistic compositions over the ye...
[11:10:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:32] <exec> 08└─Literally, I can't remember the last time I used a pen to write anything (even on a tablet!) which wasn't a signature or a brief memo / post-it that would have been just as useful in block capitals.
[11:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:34] <exec> 08└─I had to read something to an eleven year old child two days ago because he was utterly unable to read cursive. That is why it needs to be taught.
[11:10:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A relic of days gone by - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:40] <exec> 08└─Your brain processes writing far different from typing. What you write sticks with you more than what you type. How much does that matter? I don't have a clue.
[11:10:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02slow news day staple - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:10:43] <exec> 08└─We just rotate these topics on slow news days: Cursive handwriting Eliminating the penny The shroud of Turin People eating insects
[11:11:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The real issue - 06Google Speeds Up Chrome Browser with Microsoft's Profile Guided Optimization - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:11:06] <exec> 08└─Hey this is Google. They do all new. Them using time-tested tools is major news!
[11:11:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03blackhawk [5275] (Score:2) 02KDE - 06Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - 1507 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:11:17] <exec> 08└─A long time ago in a galaxy far away I was trying to run Linux as my desktop (circa 2001) and was pretty happy with KDE, but less so with the developer's editors available. I joined the team working on KDevelop (then called Gideon IIRC), and thus began a long cycle of pain. You couldn't just run the...
[11:11:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So, no keylogger-free versions for sale? - 06Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:11:21] <exec> 08└─It's certainly critical for Steam's business.
[11:11:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nobody wants Windows 10 - 06Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:11:29] <exec> 08└─I guess 99% of all private Windows users just got it preinstalled on their PC, and thus never got into contact with the activation procedure.
[11:11:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03blackhawk [5275] (Score:2) 02Windows 10 - 06Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - 2695 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:11:31] <exec> 08└─I'm going to be the voice of dissent here, albeit mild dissent. I do love Windows 7, and in fact ran it as my main desktop right up till Windows 10 came out and offered a free upgrade for 1 year. I'd tried Windows 8.x on my old PC and it felt a bit like the "special" friend of Vista. It didn't seem...
[11:11:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Linux on the desktop - 06Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:11:34] <exec> 08└─start - settings - update and security - windows update no tablet mode required.
[11:11:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Credit for class at least - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:11:45] <exec> 08└─As far as pranks go it was a pretty good one but not exactly Presidential.
[11:12:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My own test... - 06Beverage Industry Funded Research Downplays Soft Drink Ties to Obesity and Diabetes - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:12:35] <exec> 08└─How about you switch from bottled water to a water bottle thus saving money and the environment? I don't understand why people use bottled water daily. Can you enlighten me? What's your reasoning?
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[12:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:How frequently? - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:09:55] <exec> 08└─That's brilliant. You owe me $5,000 for not buying my product!
[12:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:Invisible hand - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 965 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:01] <exec> 08└─> So now I have to fake a facebook profile (And some friends?) to make it look like I'm in their "acceptable social profile" in order to get a discount on my car insurance? Would that be fraud? I'm guessing yes. Obviously it depends how much of your £280 they will discount for using the right words...
[12:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sarasani [3283] (Score:2) 02Re:Invisible hand - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:03] <exec> 08└─Think of it as getting paid to type in a bunch of crap into a computer, which is all most of us round here do all day anyway.
[12:10:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Invisible hand - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:05] <exec> 08└─Of course, if you're going to spend time on it, why not write a script / bot
[12:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Invisible hand - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:07] <exec> 08└─Are you sure that your risk is the reason why they won't insure you? There are likely to be risks directly associated with the car and its grey import status that are affecting the decision. It may be that insurers aren't interested in insuring a car where even a slight knock might mean having to ge...
[12:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Invisible hand - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:09] <exec> 08└─So now I have to fake a facebook profile (And some friends?) to make it look like I'm in their "acceptable social profile" in order to get a discount on my car insurance? Would that be fraud? I'm guessing yes.
[12:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score:2) 02Re:so, no farcebook... - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:13] <exec> 08└─That will soon be rectified and outlawed. Cannot have freeriders going their merry way!
[12:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:so, no farcebook... - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 458 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:15] <exec> 08└─no. No facebook, no (affordable) insurance is how this would likely turn out. It has nothing to do with getting a driving licence - something which in the UK is already a mechanism to wring money out of people due to fairly pointless extra tests. If 17 year old drivers are inherently dangerous, then...
[12:10:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sarasani [3283] (Score:3, Informative) 02Not happeninhg... Yet. - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 521 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:10:17] <exec> 08└─According to Admiral’s press release: “The technology uses social data personality assessments, matched to real claims data, to better understand first time drivers and more accurately predict risk.” However, this has been found to be in breach of Facebook's Platform Policy section 3.15, which...
[12:10:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Most of Education is Waste - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:28] <exec> 08└─Where did the GP state that? I read it as replacing pointless-for-the-majority theory with more practical subjects.
[12:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Pictograms - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 574 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:33] <exec> 08└─Anybody writing cursive is obviously a Luddite terrorist! Not sure the Chinese are writing with emoticons, but they are definitely writing icons - which have been standardised for (in some cases) thousands of years! Why can't the dickheads responsible for Gnome, Android, etc realise that constantly...
[12:10:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:41] <exec> 08└─I was brought up on a single BBC Micro
[12:10:42] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03TheRaven [270] 02 - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 1122 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:43] <exec> 08└─Exactly. My handwriting has always sucked. I spent several years having to do extra practice, fairly regularly missing break and lunchtimes to do it and having extra handwriting practice to do after school. My average grade in English was a C+ right up until age 14 when we were suddenly allowed to s...
[12:10:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:46] <exec> 08└─If you care about learning and the effectiveness of learning, then taking manual notes is still a lot better than using a computer and typing. There are many studies that show the relation very clearly. Pupils and students typing on their computer retain less of the subject matter and at lower under...
[12:10:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:51] <exec> 08└─Это было бы лучше аргумент для обучения кириллице.
[12:10:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:2) 02Re:Without cursive, what passes for a signature? - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:56] <exec> 08└─X
[12:10:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03damnbunni [704] (Score:2) 02Re:Without cursive, what passes for a signature? - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:58] <exec> 08└─Who the hell actually writes their signature in cursive? Everyone I know it's the first letter, then a scribble. You could print a letter and scribble just as well.
[12:11:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:A relic of days gone by - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:11:03] <exec> 08└─Your brain processes writing far different from typing. What you write sticks with you more than what you type.
[12:11:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:Fine Motor Control? - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:11:06] <exec> 08└─...Typing becomes a bit too "digital" (oh my god, so many puns), mostly because the keys never move around, unlike writing which can be quite freeform. I suspect most of the benefits can be achieved with just printed letters, but perhaps cursive does help here?
[12:11:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score:2) 02No apocalypse without ... - 06Tech Advances Since the Last Cubs World Series Win - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:11:16] <exec> 08└─Four Norsemen with paperclips!
[12:11:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:So, no keylogger-free versions for sale? - 06Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:11:44] <exec> 08└─I haven't used windows since around 2000. Love steam: the games I play are Linux games or work in wine. REALLY have no use for windows anymore, and so much better without it. You just gotta jump off that sinking ship of dog turd called windows: the world will be better off once it dies.
[12:11:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So, no keylogger-free versions for sale? - 06Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:11:46] <exec> 08└─As it is I'm seriously considing Apple products Ah, yes, moving from Microsoft to Apple because of control and privacy concerns. Also known as "from the frying pan into the fire" :)
[12:16:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03weeds [611] (Score:2) 02Re:They were just easier to steamroll - 06Canary Islands Chosen as Backup Site for the Thirty-Meter Telescope - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:16:09] <exec> 08└─OK, I think that's the root of it isn't it? "It will be bad for tourism", "It will impact the water supply", "It will damage the local ecology" All well considered reasons. Entry points to a dialog, possible to discuss, refute, or potentially compromise. "No, because it's my mountain and I said so."...
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[13:09:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03fadrian [3194] (Score:2) 02Look! Another golden parachute! - 06Gannett Ends Pursuit of Rival Newspaper Publisher Tronc - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:09:44] <exec> 08└─Someone's not going to meet their growth numbers this year.
[13:09:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:How frequently? - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:09:57] <exec> 08└─Per minute, if they get their way.
[13:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sarasani [3283] (Score:2) 02Re:Black Mirror - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 814 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:00] <exec> 08└─Yes, I believe one of the main reasons why people (including myself) find the Black Mirror series so unnerving is that it hits so close to home. For instance, in this particular episode we meet a "Reputelligent Agent". That person has a job that pretty much exists already today (for a fee, you can g...
[13:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Webweasel [567] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Invisible hand - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 1399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:08] <exec> 08└─I work for a car insurance company so I can offer a little incite: All insurance in the UK is run as a loss leader. No one makes a profit on you until you have renewed for the 3rd year in a row (When your premium is bumped up and we hope you don't read the renewal properly) This wasn't the case unti...
[13:10:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03yarp [2665] (Score:2) 02Re:Invisible hand - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 557 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:11] <exec> 08└─This is interesting. I knew profit margins were slim due to introductory discounts (and generous referral fees), but didn't realise the premiums were sold at an outright loss until the _third_ year. I haven't experienced many occasions where even the first renewal quote has been competitive. The ras...
[13:10:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Webweasel [567] (Score:2) 02Re:Invisible hand - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:14] <exec> 08└─Suddenly I see a job market for "Social media curator". Ofc, over time the insurance companies will latch onto this happening and realise their stats are useless because everyone's gaming the system. And the pendulum swings from one extreme back to the other. Your facebook profile is too perfect so...
[13:10:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03BenJeremy [6392] (Score:1) 02Charging more based on irrelevant stats - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 614 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:10:20] <exec> 08└─AAA was charging me more because my credit score was low, despite always paying my bill on time and in full. Goodbye, AAA. My credit score is "Excellent" now... I guess I'm a better driver? This is all about finding creative ways to charge drivers more for insurance. Basically, they just keep whittl...
[13:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Wrong site - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:10:22] <exec> 08└─These include writing in short concrete sentences, using lists, and arranging to meet friends at a set time and place, rather than just "tonight".
[13:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hardness [4766] (Score:1) 02Re:Most of Education is Waste - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:34] <exec> 08└─Wasn't Descartes a mercenary?
[13:10:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ledow [5567] 02Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 3697 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:10:40] <exec> 08└─Please tell me why you want to force your kids to learn cursive. Do you think they are unable to communicate via non-electronic means without it? No. Do you think that non-electronic means will be their primary communications medium? Surely not. Like someone who continues to teach how to use a typew...
[13:10:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03BsAtHome [889] 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 1486 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:49] <exec> 08└─If you care about learning and the effectiveness of learning, then taking manual notes is still a lot better than using a computer and typing. There are many studies that show the relation very clearly. Pupils and students typing on their computer retain less of the subject matter and at lower under...
[13:10:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score:2) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 557 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:52] <exec> 08└─No not everyone is impacted in the same way. That is why we have statistics and the result is a nice bell-curve. There are always extremes, examples and anecdotes that indicate the opposite. The spread from low-to-high has always been the case, also before the era of computers. The point is that, on...
[13:10:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 1284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:58] <exec> 08└─This comes up in genealogy a lot. More than a century ago people wrote everything in cursive and it can be hard to read. Pretty much until the cheap ballpoint pen era everything is in cursive, draft records, military records, census records, all of it. Its something to do with fountain pens or quill...
[13:11:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03danmars [3662] (Score: 2000 2) 02Re:Without cursive, what passes for a signature? - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:05] <exec> 08└─Absolutely anything you want. Your signature never had to be your-name-in-cursive in the first place.
[13:11:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:slow news day staple - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:13] <exec> 08└─People eating insects
[13:11:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:2) 02Re:slow news day staple - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:15] <exec> 08└─We just rotate these topics on slow news days: Cursive handwriting Eliminating the penny The shroud of Turin People eating insects
[13:11:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:slow news day staple - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 614 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:17] <exec> 08└─You forgot "eliminating daylight savings time" and "new fangled keyboard X." I hypothesize that entomophagy is an attempt at mass indoctrination, much the same way as the recent media with transgender has been. Why would someone want to mass indoctrinate the public on those two issues? No idea. Perh...
[13:11:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:slow news day staple - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:20] <exec> 08└─Cheap protein. Save the beef for the 1% who "deserve it" more than us proles. Don't overlook competition. Its a progressive pissing contest to see which journalism grad can get more people to love eating bugs. That loser only got 30K clicks on his bug story I'm gonna get 40K clicks at least.
[13:11:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:slow news day staple - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 1373 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:22] <exec> 08└─If all communication were done electronically, there would be no need for handwriting. But there are many times, even in the age of smartphones, when it is essential to be able to produce written communication that others can read. That's true even for adults. For kids, it's still true in most schoo...
[13:11:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Iceweasel starts much slower than Firefox - 06Google Speeds Up Chrome Browser with Microsoft's Profile Guided Optimization - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:11:48] <exec> 08└─I've been wondering why Iceweasel startup time is so glacial compared to nearly the same code of Firefox. Maybe profiling is the reason.
[13:12:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Windows 10 - 06Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:12:13] <exec> 08└─security is important to me
[13:12:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03nobu_the_bard [6373] (Score:1) 02end of retail sales - 06Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - 578 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:12:14] <exec> 08└─Windows 7 stopped being supplied to retailers in 2013. Windows 8 stopped being supplied in 2015. You may still be able to find copies but supply is no longer being replenished, so the longer you wait the harder it will be to find affordably. Try to make sure you get a retail copy, not an OEM license...
[13:12:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Innovation? - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:12:45] <exec> 08└─I am sure there are a few people out of the eligible millions who'd be better candidates
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[14:10:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03ticho [89] (Score:2) 02Re:Invisible hand - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:18] <exec> 08└─Wait, you don't?
[14:10:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Invisible hand - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 1361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:25] <exec> 08└─Believe it or not that's already happened with celebrities, politicians, and other public personae. About 6 years ago in New York all the big PR firms went on a hiring spree for "social media experts." They were staffing up that very position, "social media curator," except they referred to it as "r...
[14:10:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03driven [6295] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Not happeninhg... Yet. - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 946 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:31] <exec> 08└─FTA: These include writing in short concrete sentences, using lists, and arranging to meet friends at a set time and place, rather than just "tonight". Since these metrics have no bearing on driving ability, I think this is more about a new revenue stream than anything. Quoth Sarasani: first roll ou...
[14:10:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Accident Statistics - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:35] <exec> 08└─Si can it tell whether you were posting to Facebook when you crashed? Is that the idea?
[14:10:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Webweasel [567] (Score:2) 02Looks like facebook pulled this already - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:37] <exec> 08└─I guess the public backlash is something they are not ready for yet, as facebook have blocked this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk [telegraph.co.uk]
[14:10:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Looks like facebook pulled this already - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:40] <exec> 08└─They're still working out a fair cost of access.
[14:11:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03SpockLogic [2762] (Score:2) 02Re:Most of Education is Waste - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:02] <exec> 08└─¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[14:11:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Most of Education is Waste - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:04] <exec> 08└─Heck, a typewriter class would still be pretty useful - yeah, there's a few skills that aren't really relevant to PCs, but the primary skill: typing quickly and accurately, is probably even more relevant today than it was when such classes were common.
[14:11:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score:1) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:14] <exec> 08└─'It builds character!' is what people who have been through a hazing and want a chance to haze the next class of newbies themselves always say. Making the kids chug milk 'til they barf would have the same educational benefit and only waste one day of school...
[14:11:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03blackhawk [5275] (Score:2) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:17] <exec> 08└─Well, that sucks dogs dicks as they say over here. I went through Australasian education for 20 years, and although my marks on 'Handwriting' were almost always 'C' or worse, my marks for 'English' were 'A' or 'A+'. You'd have benefited greatly from having sane teachers like we have over here.
[14:11:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03blackhawk [5275] (Score:2) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 865 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:22] <exec> 08└─This is like saying "people who learnt music theory and an instrument do much better on music tests". Of course they do. The point is that until quite recently everyone was given both printing and cursive lessons when a child. Even recently people were at the least given printing lessons. They are n...
[14:11:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 791 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:24] <exec> 08└─I agree there's much to be said for taking manual notes, and it increases dramatically anytime diagrams or any other non-linear information layout are relevant (math springs aggressively to mind). I'm anxiously awaiting the day someone makes a digital pen and tablet that will allow me to write and d...
[14:11:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:26] <exec> 08└─If you care about learning and the effectiveness of learning, then taking manual notes is still a lot better than using a computer and typing
[14:11:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03blackhawk [5275] (Score:2) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 1383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:11:33] <exec> 08└─I can think of only one really grounding reason to learn cursive...it is faster and easier to write than "printing". Cursive letters flow together, and a good cursive script will rarely lift the pen from the paper. I'm in that older bracket of people online here - the late 40s and above. I learnt pr...
[14:11:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 424 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:36] <exec> 08└─+6. I think a lot of geeks can remember being tortured and abused by teachers and peers over handwriting in school. I homeschool my kids, and I'm all for people teaching their kids what they think is important. If you want your kids to learn cursive, teach them yourself. Mine may learn it briefly bu...
[14:11:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03arulatas [3600] (Score:2) 02Re:Sad times ... - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 412 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:40] <exec> 08└─That is interesting as the school taught my daughter cursive to use for writing and note taking as it helped with her dyslexia and adhd. Having one letter connect to the next seemed to help her concentrate and keep focus on the word as she was writing. She said it helped her too. So I guess not ever...
[14:11:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02PGP - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:46] <exec> 08└─gpg --clearsign [gnupg.org]
[14:11:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02Re:slow news day staple - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 507 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:56] <exec> 08└─Wasn't commenting on soylent in particular, but making an observation about how the media runs these same stories like clockwork to fill the news cycle. Once you realize these topics are regularly-generated filler, you start noticing them. I didn't include seasonal stuff in my list, but you can alwa...
[14:11:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:slow news day staple - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:00] <exec> 08└─You might have something there. I would guess the competition is between publishers, though, more than the journalists. It's probably from bets they made at cocktail parties on the New York/Washington party circuit.
[14:12:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:No apocalypse without ... - 06Tech Advances Since the Last Cubs World Series Win - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:11] <exec> 08└─Actually, the real sports-related sign of an imminent apocalypse is if the Cleveland Browns win the Super Bowl, especially in the same year as the Cleveland Indians winning the World Series and the Cleveland Cavaliers winning the NBA championship: In that highly unlikely event, please remember to ke...
[14:12:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:So, no keylogger-free versions for sale? - 06Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - 1147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:45] <exec> 08└─I don't think there are that many business critical functions out there that have not been covered by FLOSS at this point. Anything that "cannot" be replaced with FLOSS is really "will not," because stakeholders in the company refuse to change. That's why law firms still to this day run LotusNotes w...
[14:12:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Windows 10 - 06Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - 532 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:56] <exec> 08└─Thanks for writing that--I've been on linux exclusively since 1999 so the world of Windows seems like a parallel universe to me now. A lot of the Windows vs. Linux discussions I've seen over the years have tended to be FLOSS zealots vs. Windows shills & apologists. So it's nice to get an honest, non...
[14:12:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03blackhawk [5275] (Score:2) 02Re:Windows 10 - 06Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - 2008 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:57] <exec> 08└─I think it wasn't so much adware, which I keep my machine clean of, but rather the sheer size of all the code that needs to be loaded in a Windows system. I run a *lot* of applications. To give you an idea, I have a 256GB SSD which only contains the Windows 10 core, boot and applications I use. It w...
[14:14:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:More interesting - 06Beverage Industry Funded Research Downplays Soft Drink Ties to Obesity and Diabetes - 1880 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:14] <exec> 08└─You have a reverse correlation problem where you assume bodybuilders are a random sample of the population, like the soviet central planning division rolled dice or the draft board pulled numbers half a century ago and a perfectly random sample of the population magically had to become marathon runn...
[14:14:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02stupid ford - 06BlackBerry Partners With Ford to Work on Expanding the Use of QNX OS - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:26] <exec> 08└─stupid ass whores at ford just don't get it. they go from one slaveware OS to another. no fords for me, you dumb bastards.
[14:14:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03arulatas [3600] (Score:2) 02Re:Headline/summary - 06Pipeline Explosion in Alabama Kills 1, Injures 5 - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:46] <exec> 08└─Hint one of the workers was working really hard.
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[15:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Yay! DMCA is bad badness - 06It’s Finally Legal to Hack Your Own Devices (Even Your Car) - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:46] <exec> 08└─Moderate me Agree because I'm thinking what we're all thinking!
[15:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Informative) 02Real story - 06It’s Finally Legal to Hack Your Own Devices (Even Your Car) - 1467 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:48] <exec> 08└─Its gone thru the journalist filter so many times I'm not sure whats actually changing. I'm pretty sure its this https://www.federalregister.gov [federalregister.gov] And...
[15:10:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:Invisible hand - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:17] <exec> 08└─Sure I do! BTW Microsoft is awesome, global warming is fake and smoking cleans your lungs.
[15:10:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Invisible hand - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:26] <exec> 08└─If Trump wins there will be a growing demand for prozac.
[15:10:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02Re:so, no farcebook... - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:31] <exec> 08└─Even if it could be shown that 17 year olds were worse drivers, I'd bet if they moved the minimum age to 30, 30 year olds would be bad drivers too. Being new = making more mistakes. Some young people may be more apt to take risks, but many people start out anxious and afraid and become more fearless...
[15:10:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not happeninhg... Yet. - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:35] <exec> 08└─These include writing in short concrete sentences, using lists, and arranging to meet friends at a set time and place, rather than just "tonight". Since these metrics have no bearing on driving ability
[15:10:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wrong site - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:39] <exec> 08└─They're looking at the wrong site. I've seen facebook, its a pile of moron-ity. Garbage in Garbage out. Nothing to be learned there.
[15:10:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03SecurityGuy [1453] (Score:2) 02Re:Wrong site - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:41] <exec> 08└─Seriously. I'd also be marking people down for arranging on a public website which friends they're meeting and which time and what place.
[15:10:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02UPDATE! - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:46] <exec> 08└─It seems this scheme has been scrapped: https://www.theguardian.com [theguardian.com]
[15:11:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Most of Education is Waste - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:02] <exec> 08└─So you equate "useful" with "business"?
[15:11:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheLink [332] (Score:2) 02Re:Most of Education is Waste - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:11:07] <exec> 08└─Why must literature always be Chaucer and Twain? Why not have a business class with case studies?
[15:11:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:17] <exec> 08└─All I can say is that the only reason I have used cursive writing in the past two decades is to sign my name (and if I didn't know cursive, I 2000 could still come up with something respectable). But I did calculus an hour ago.
[15:11:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:19] <exec> 08└─i was always a printing person, even to the point i had to go around in circles with the first bank account i got where they wanted to make me change my all caps signature to something cursivey... it is written in a distinctive manner, not just regular block letters anyone could copy, but being nomi...
[15:11:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:22] <exec> 08└─*waaaaa* why are we wasting kids time teaching them calculus *waaaaa*
[15:11:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:25] <exec> 08└─But cursive? It's not the best tool for any job that I can think of.
[15:11:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:34] <exec> 08└─And some of us can't take notes and learn at the same time. All the way through school I took notes in one class (I honestly don't know why I did that). That was the one class that I learned absolutely nothing. Except, as a test, I tried not taking notes one lesson. I still remember what we learned...
[15:11:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:36] <exec> 08└─Here's a test you can try on yourself: grab or borrow a Schaum's outlines (about $20) and work through a chapter (which is usually only a few pages, each book has dozens of chapters) using pen and line paper. Then study a different topic in the same curriculum using a reputable online source such as...
[15:11:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:40] <exec> 08└─If you care about learning and the effectiveness of learning,
[15:11:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:42] <exec> 08└─I care about learning... If you care about learning and the effectiveness of learning
[15:11:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:49] <exec> 08└─です!
[15:11:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:54] <exec> 08└─But no, let's force our children to spend years breaking their hands to write with an inefficient implement that they probably won't use very much at all throughout their adult lives.
[15:12:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Without cursive, what passes for a signature? - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 948 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:02] <exec> 08└─Actually, there's still a lot of people out there who use cursive for signatures. I have a seasonal position in accounting at Yellowstone National Park and spend some time eyeballing various sorts of guest-signed paper documents. The majority sign in something resembling cursive (first letter and sc...
[15:12:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Without cursive, what passes for a signature? - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:05] <exec> 08└─Some cops seem to think so.
[15:12:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Still in Business - 06Tech Advances Since the Last Cubs World Series Win - 520 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:15] <exec> 08└─Ty Cobb, long retired, was giving an interview in the press box at a ballgame. The radio guy asked him, "Ty, if you were playing today, what do you think you'd hit in terms of batting average?" Cobb paused. "Oh, I dunno, .290. Maybe .300". The radio guy was taken aback since he knew of Cobb's reputa...
[15:13:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Windows 10 - 06Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - 1276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:03] <exec> 08└─Vulkan is available for windows 7 & 8 too. DX12 is only available for windows 10 because Microsoft wants to use that as a reason to upgrade. Like you said, Windows 10 (and 8) have a fast boot option that is much faster than 7. What is misleading about it is fast boot isn't actually a cold boot. It's...
[15:13:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03iamjacksusername [1479] (Score:2) 02Microsoft is getting what they want - 06Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - 1188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:07] <exec> 08└─I suppose Microsoft is getting what they want... there were a lot of people (and businesses!) who had the utter gall to use their computer operating system without sending money to Microsoft every month. Microsoft has decided to put a stop to that nonsense. With the Windows 10 update models, if you...
[15:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Credit for class at least - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:20] <exec> 08└─I'd consider it a classy ex-presidential prank though.
[15:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Obama knows his way around Twitter and FB - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:25] <exec> 08└─Considering that she read her emails by having an assistant print them out and bring them to her, i doubt it. How exactly do you think that assistant was able to get into the account? Probably password sharing! hah.
[15:14:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:My own test... - 06Beverage Industry Funded Research Downplays Soft Drink Ties to Obesity and Diabetes - 672 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:15] <exec> 08└─Please, and give up all those pseudoestrogens and that sickly-sweet plastic aftertaste? Madness. I will say though that every time I visit a large city I am again impressed by the overall nastiness of the water. A decent charcoal filter improves the flavor considerably, but I still worry 2000 about...
[15:14:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:My own test... - 06Beverage Industry Funded Research Downplays Soft Drink Ties to Obesity and Diabetes - 558 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:16] <exec> 08└─It's a convenience thing. Even though (filtered) faucet water is fine to drink, a lot of people still prefer to buy separate drinking water. I use a 5 gallon bottle system (unrefrigerated) because it's actually cheaper than buying packs of the small bottles. Also gives peace of mind that there's 25...
[15:14:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My own test... - 06Beverage Industry Funded Research Downplays Soft Drink Ties to Obesity and Diabetes - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:18] <exec> 08└─I tried the under-sink charcoal water filter, it didn't completely get rid of the foul taste of San Diego's sewer water. We recycle, so up yours with the environmental justice.
[15:14:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02John Oliver covered this too - 06Beverage Industry Funded Research Downplays Soft Drink Ties to Obesity and Diabetes - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:30] <exec> 08└─Vid: https://www.youtube.com Transcript: http://genius.com
[15:14:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rich [945] (Score:2) 02Last week... - 06Beverage Industry Funded Research Downplays Soft Drink Ties to Obesity and Diabetes - 872 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:31] <exec> 08└─... German newspaper F.A.Z., considered to be the most reputable by many, ran that story (in German): http://www.faz.net [faz.net] As it went online, in some agency the champagne corks must have popped for s...
[15:15:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Headline/summary - 06Pipeline Explosion in Alabama Kills 1, Injures 5 - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:05] <exec> 08└─No, not an error, it is contradictory reporting on a developing story.
[15:15:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Wannabe dictator - 06Turkey's Erdogan Continues Crackdown on Media with Detention of Cumhuriyet Newspaper Staff - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:45] <exec> 08└─The atheist (and heathen) ugri-mugris here have no plans on leaving, and you have no right to force them, you racist twat. The EU was has *economic* goals (no matter how badly it fails to achieve them), and religion is utterly irrelevant.
[15:16:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Once we're down to 3 holders of infrastructure - 06CenturyLink to Buy Level 3 Communications for $25 Billion - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:16:13] <exec> 08└─Congratulations - you've been frojacked! You now get to nominate two other people that frojack will have to reply to in the next week in his inimitable style.
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[16:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Money per mile - 06Hypersonic Cruise Missile Scores USD$175m DARPA Cash - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:54] <exec> 08└─The cost of blowing up at your destination is so often not factored in as well.
[16:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03garrulus [6051] (Score:1) 02competition already had them in production - 06Hypersonic Cruise Missile Scores USD$175m DARPA Cash - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:09:55] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BrahMos [wikipedia.org] http://www.ausairpower.net [ausairpower.net]
[16:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03garrulus [6051] (Score:1) 02Re:competition already had them in production - 06Hypersonic Cruise Missile Scores USD$175m DARPA Cash - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:57] <exec> 08└─brahmos 2 ~2017
[16:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Car dealer warranty void... - 06It’s Finally Legal to Hack Your Own Devices (Even Your Car) - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:07] <exec> 08└─If you use tune software to tune your ECM, the dealer will not honor the warranty if you blow an engine. Argue about it all you want about the right to modify the engine control parameters, the dealer will still say it caused the engine damage.
[16:10:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03isostatic [365] 02Invisible hand - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 150 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:31] <exec> 08└─Don't worry - the free market will sort this out, the invisible hand means that if this is good it will catch on, and if it's bad admiral will suffer.
[16:10:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Webweasel [567] 02Re:Invisible hand - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 1227 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:32] <exec> 08└─Will it? The free market does not like my car (Toyota Celica GT4 - Japanese grey import), to the extent that I can find very few insurers who will give me a policy, despite having 15 years no claims bonus with 9 of those on the car. I am with Admiral because they will insure the car (£280 a year fu...
[16:11:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Most of Education is Waste - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:18] <exec> 08└─keyboards of any sort may be gone (or not) in another few years
[16:11:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pictograms - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 3 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:25] <exec> 08└─FBT
[16:11:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:38] <exec> 08└─If you pluck geese for your quills, you're an idiot. Let them shed their quills, and collect them in a timely fashion.
[16:11:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 1054 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:52] <exec> 08└─This is total BS. Look, I'm all in favor of manual note-taking. I'm an engineer; I take lots of notes on notepads, green engineering paper, etc. I take notes, I draw diagrams, etc. None of this requires cursive writing. In fact, cursive is the worst thing to use, because it's so unreadable. All the...
[16:11:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:00] <exec> 08└─I had to read something to an eleven year old child two days ago because he was utterly unable to read cursive. That is why it needs to be taught.
[16:12:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:05] <exec> 08└─>Please tell me why you want to force your kids to learn cursive. Because without learning to write cursive you'll never be able to read these: http://www.usconstitution.net [usconstitution.net] http://www.usconstitution.net [usconstitution.net] http://www.usconstit...
[16:12:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Still in Business - 06Tech Advances Since the Last Cubs World Series Win - 557 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:15] <exec> 08└─It's been a wonderful series so far. My only gripe with it, and I do have sympathy for broadcasters needing to have something to say, but the stupider than usual stats about "the last time XXX happened at Wrigley Field during a World Series". Of course the last time was a long fricken time ago, beca...
[16:12:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Pro-gamer? Software journalist? - 06Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:53] <exec> 08└─Lots of reasons it might be a business-critical application. Not everything is as clearcut as people often think, especially in the digital age.
[16:13:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Microsoft is getting what they want - 06Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:12] <exec> 08└─leaving windows automatic updates on is not managing anything. It's letting the wizard run wild. This management approach is no different than my grandmother's, and I would not put her in charge of an IT department.
[16:13:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03iamjacksusername [1479] (Score:2) 02Re:Microsoft is getting what they want - 06Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - 1168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:13] <exec> 08└─It's a time and resource issue. At least through Windows 7, you could leave Windows update set to install updates automatically and be reasonably assured that no major changes would occur. There were issues but were rare enough that the cost to mitigate them was more expensive than fixing them as th...
[16:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02LOL! - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:36] <exec> 08└─Short of the Clinton Foundation buying it and making it not-for-profit, do you think Twitter will even still be around come January? My bets are it will not, whether sold off, or bankrupt and liquidated to its creditors.
[16:14:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03BananaPhone [2488] (Score:2) 02Re:Differentiate the sweeteners - 06Beverage Industry Funded Research Downplays Soft Drink Ties to Obesity and Diabetes - 708 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:28] <exec> 08└─From what I can tell, ANY processed fructose product is bad. Fructose occurs in fruit naturally but if you strip out all the fiber you are left with nothing but fructose. (e.g. fruit juice) Sugar is Glucose+Fructose (50% and 50%) and comes from Sugar Cane. IOW: processed fructose product HFCS is Glu...
[16:17:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Property Rights - 06Canary Islands Chosen as Backup Site for the Thirty-Meter Telescope - 1124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:17:25] <exec> 08└─Did it ever occur to you that if you were a native person your values might not be the same as your current values? Did it ever occur to you that I could have totally different values while still remaining a white American? There's no shortage of white Americans who think that science is bunk, that...
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[17:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Often error prone... - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 638 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:54] <exec> 08└─Seems to me these machines, more so than any other monetary device I've ever read about, are very error prone. ATMs? Rarely off Electric bill counters? Rarely off Vending machines? Rarely off monetarily, but sometimes either don't issue snack- or issue two :) Toll booth's coin-counting till? Rarely...
[17:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fuck her - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:55] <exec> 08└─Bookman, who said she was recently laid off from her housekeeping job at a local hospital, said she plans to sue the casino. “She’s upset obviously,” said Bookman’s lawyer, Alan Ripka. “She thought her life and family’s life would have been changed forever.”
[17:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Fuck her - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:57] <exec> 08└─Well, if she had 5 kids I would see your point, but alas she was a single mother to only 4 kids.
[17:09:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03nobu_the_bard [6373] (Score:1) 02penny slot - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:59] <exec> 08└─It's a penny slot. She might have burned what, $1 playing? $2 and a steak dinner sounds like a pretty good return, much better than I'd have expected at least.
[17:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:penny slot - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:02] <exec> 08└─And she thought she it was possible to win $42 million on a penny slot? How dumb is this woman?
[17:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Redundant) 02The house always wins - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:04] <exec> 08└─Even when they lose, then win. Trump managed to turn his four big NJ casinos belly up. Must be his world class business acumen BUT his supporters think those were outliers in his career.
[17:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Desler [880] (Score:1) 02Boohoo - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:06] <exec> 08└─There's not really much of a case here for her. All slot machines like this have a statement on the screens that, per gaming regulations, must be clearly visible at all times that say all jackpots must be verified and that any malfunctions void any plays or payouts. This isn't the first case and won...
[17:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:competition already had them in production - 06Hypersonic Cruise Missile Scores USD$175m DARPA Cash - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:18] <exec> 08└─Don't 'splode me Brah.
[17:10:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Doesn't really help much... - 06It’s Finally Legal to Hack Your Own Devices (Even Your Car) - 744 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:27] <exec> 08└─Maybe back in the mid-'00s this would have mattered, but with the current generations of signed firmware, unless the LoC forces companies to release signing keys for discontinued products, this hacking allowance is irrelevant since most of the devices are now tamperproof at the silicon level, and so...
[17:10:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Pretty sure engine parameters are already illegal - 06It’s Finally Legal to Hack Your Own Devices (Even Your Car) - 780 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:30] <exec> 08└─in most states, given emission control requirements. California for instance it definitely is, since this qualifies as modifying emission control systems, and will fail you on smog, just like modifying the carbuerator, running a piggyback unit, etc. Plenty of other electronics in your car you could...
[17:11:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Invisible hand - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:09] <exec> 08└─>I insure with Admiral and do not have a Facebook account, what are the consequences? Or this can be gamed, by creating a presence specifically to manicure & groom your 'perceived' online persona- which will be an upstanding citizen without blemish.
[17:11:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Most of Education is Waste - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 1357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:43] <exec> 08└─Yes, there's some subjects we know will continue to matter, but in a lot of cases, that transferability is not obvious. You mention typing, but if one surveyed futurists at the time you were in school, would they have predicted that the computers of the 2000s would still use keyboards? Or would they...
[17:11:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Most of Education is Waste - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 532 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:49] <exec> 08└─>It serves little purpose, but should be counted as an art. A better class would be on taking notes shorthand. Cursive is the great middle-ground. Neither writing in disconnected letters, not reverting to 'elite' custom & little known shorthand symbols used by few. Consider this comparison of comput...
[17:12:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Reminds me of the two years in grade school... - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 776 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:12:06] <exec> 08└─I spent having to make my hands almost bleed (mostly getting callouses and then a wart on my writing finger! *shakes fist at loaning out a pencil to someone with them!*) The irony of the situation was that I could *PRINT* with a pencil faster than I could cursive at the time, and it was much clearer...
[17:12:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:26] <exec> 08└─Indeed. Drafting 3d objects onto 2d paper allowed me to visualize 4d objects.
[17:12:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:33] <exec> 08└─And, no. DO NOT "teach" them typing and the home keys and junk. They have that down within the first few years automatically as muscle-memory of using the tools. You might have had to be instructed on how to do it, but that's because you were taught cursive first.
[17:12:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:35] <exec> 08└─I am fine not making the kids learn to write it, I do think learning to read it is still important though.
[17:12:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cool! - 06Google Speeds Up Chrome Browser with Microsoft's Profile Guided Optimization - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:55] <exec> 08└─Does this effect the Linux version?
[17:13:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:The real issue - 06Google Speeds Up Chrome Browser with Microsoft's Profile Guided Optimization - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:06] <exec> 08└─Once Apple discovers the tool, its use will denote sheer unmitigated genius.
[17:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02So... FLOTUS44? VP44? - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 505 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:23] <exec> 08└─Remember there's not necessarily a 1:1 correspondence between POTUS, FLOTUS, and VP. If you number them all sequentially, they won't all have the same number, and if you give them the number of the corresponding president, it'll cause confusion. I have to think naming the archival accounts by date o...
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[18:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:penny slot - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 509 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:02] <exec> 08└─Except it might be possible to win $42 million on a penny slot. I know for certain that you can win upwards of 11 million dollars. MegaBucks penny slot edition starts at a $10 million collective jackpot for all machines. It would take awhile to get that high, but I've seen MegaBucks get close to $50...
[18:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Desler [880] (Score:1) 02Re:penny slot - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:03] <exec> 08└─Megabucks is also a progressive game so the payout is much different than in this case.
[18:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:penny slot - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:05] <exec> 08└─Asshole alert!
[18:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Sc 5a67 ore:0) 02Re:penny slot - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:08] <exec> 08└─Nope just not an idiot unlike you and the woman in this story.
[18:10:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:penny slot - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:11] <exec> 08└─Yes, every small time gambler knows that! What is she thinking!!! Or maybe you're just a tool...
[18:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Desler [880] (Score:1) 02Re:penny slot - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:13] <exec> 08└─Clearly not much. Gaming machines are required to clearly spell out payout percents and win maximums. This is highly regulated stuff.
[18:10:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Desler [880] (Score:1) 02Re:The house always wins - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:16] <exec> 08└─But she didn't win. There's no slot machine that pays out at 4 billion percent.
[18:10:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Desler [880] (Score:1) 02Re:The house always wins - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:18] <exec> 08└─This is obviously in context of a non-progressive game which is the case here. Obviously a progressive jackpots can be higher.
[18:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Desler [880] (Score:1) 02Re:Boohoo - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:22] <exec> 08└─The disclaimer is a requirement from the state gaming regulations passed by the state legislature and have the force of law. People have tried this same lawsuit before and none have won the case.
[18:10:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03BenJeremy [6392] (Score:1) 02Same trick worked with Mac Pirates! - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 734 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:24] <exec> 08└─I discovered a bug in the original Sid Meir's Pirates! for the Mac back in 1989... get your ship damaged so you had only a couple hundred gold, but the cost to repair was more... the game allowed you to perform the repairs and the overflow gave you just under 65530 gold. Pirates were happy and you c...
[18:10:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Standard operating procedure - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 557 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:27] <exec> 08└─This is how it is with all casino's. Small wins, they let the gamblers have them. But the 'BIG' jackpots, the ones that they use to get asses in seats in the first place. No, no one should win THOSE. And if someone DOES manage to beat the odds, which are legally allowed to set against our customers....
[18:10:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Desler [880] (Score:1) 02Re:Standard operating procedure - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:29] <exec> 08└─People win big jackpots all the time, but they are only jackpots that correspond to what is clearly displayed as valid. Secondly, determination of malfunction comes from the gaming comissions which are not on the casino's payroll.
[18:10:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Standard operating procedure - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:31] <exec> 08└─Many of them are elected. The casino's pour in money for their campaign. They are bought and paid for by the casino's. Look up the term regulatory capture.
[18:10:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Money per mile - 06Hypersonic Cruise Missile Scores USD$175m DARPA Cash - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:42] <exec> 08└─Who rides a ballistic missile anyway? Honestly!
[18:10:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Redundant) 02USD$ ?? - 06Hypersonic Cruise Missile Scores USD$175m DARPA Cash - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:47] <exec> 08└─Is that "D" brought to you by the Department of Redundancy Department?
[18:10:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pretty sure engine parameters are already illeg - 06It’s Finally Legal to Hack Your Own Devices (Even Your Car) - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:58] <exec> 08└─If you are so burdened by regulation you could always move to Somalia.
[18:11:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pretty sure engine parameters are already illeg - 06It’s Finally Legal to Hack Your Own Devices (Even Your Car) - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:00] <exec> 08└─The tune software I was looking at for a GM vehicle will advance the timing curve, boost the turbo, give you better gas mileage and more power. The drawback is you have to run premium gas or the pistons will become screen tops. It will still pass the California smog test both at the tailpipe and com...
[18:11:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Invisible hand - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:35] <exec> 08└─Oh, excellent. I'm glad you have a succession plan in place, Mr. Johnson.
[18:11:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:so, no farcebook... - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:50] <exec> 08└─Also to note: It's around 17 that you start *needing* access to transportation for a variety of things: Jobs, Social Gatherings, moving, etc...
[18:11:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wrong site - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:57] <exec> 08└─It's mother lode [wikipedia.org] sweetie.
[18:12:14] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] 02Most of Education is Waste - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 434 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:12:14] <exec> 08└─Cursive writing may as well be typewriter class. It serves little purpose, but should be counted as an art. A better class would be on taking notes shorthand, or using the Palmer method for similar reasons. Why must literature always be Chaucer and Twain? Why not have a business class with case stud...
[18:12:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Most of Education is Waste - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:27] <exec> 08└─You can find examples of the exact same fallacious reasoning that you are referring to being satirized in Chaucer. It attacks the bullshit-detector problem from the "those who forget history are doomed to repeat it" angle.
[18:12:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] 02Re:Pictograms - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 574 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:30] <exec> 08└─Anybody writing cursive is obviously a Luddite terrorist! Not sure the Chinese are writing with emoticons, but they are definitely writing icons - which have been standardised for (in some cases) thousands of years! Why can't the dickheads responsible for Gnome, Android, etc realise that constantly...
[18:12:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Pictograms - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:34] <exec> 08└─Write like an Egyptiaaaaan..... Write like an Egyptiaaaaan..... (guitar solo)
[18:13:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:01] <exec> 08└─I stopped writing in cursive as soon as I was able to get away with it in school, because it's such a horrible way of writing.
[18:13:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:17] <exec> 08└─I'm a mathematician. I'll throw you a bone here. You can't write equations on a computer. Well, I can't. I'm sure if you grew up with Maple/LaTeX/MathML as the only way to practically do so it would be easy. But I *must* use a pen to do mathematics. Not because it's a pen, but because the layout nee...
[18:16:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cheaper gas - 06Pipeline Explosion in Alabama Kills 1, Injures 5 - 486 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:18] <exec> 08└─Rough numbers... Gas in the US about 4 years ago was nearing $4 a gallon, and now it is about $2.50... earlier it was priced the same as it was 15 years ago. How much cheaper do you want it? Rhetoric like yours is why we can never increase the gas tax (even when gas is cheaper than bottled water), a...
[18:18:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03J053 [3532] (Score:2) 02Re:Oooh, gotta love those shades of grey - 06Canary Islands Chosen as Backup Site for the Thirty-Meter Telescope - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:18:45] <exec> 08└─No, this was a USAF/NASA project that was eventually turned over to the University of Hawaii.
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[19:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0)< f95 /span> </h4> </div> <div class="details"> by Anonymous Coward <span class="otherdetails" id="comment_otherdetails_421794">on Wednesday November 02, @03:04PM (<a href="//soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=16309&cid=421794#commentwrap">#421794</a>) <small> </small> 02Biometrics - 06All it Takes to Steal Your Face is a Special Pair of Glasses - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:09:40] <exec> 08└─Biometrics YEAY! Biometrics makes you safe! Buy my product! More and more, I'm thinking about wearing this whenever I go out: https://cvdazzle.com [cvdazzle.com] (... or this [wikipedia.org])
[19:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Often error prone... - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 679 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:49] <exec> 08└─I think it's just selection bias -- when a toll booth rips you off for a dollar, you may be hopping mad, but it's not going to make the news. When a gambling machine is off by a dollar, you may be either really mad or really happy, but it's not going to make the news, either. When the gambling machi...
[19:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Often error prone... - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:51] <exec> 08└─Also most of that sort of software is not proven correct just that it does not screw up big. If it screws up big they do what the did here. Even with billions of plays 0.001% failure is a lot. https://xkcd.com [xkcd.com]
[19:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:penny slot - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 592 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:01] <exec> 08└─Ah yes, good old denial and tearing others down to make yourself feel better. There is still hope for you yet! As long as you don't say "yeah I'm an asshole but at least I'm honest about it" there is hope for you to recover some of your humanity. Yes other people are stupid, yes other people make mi...
[19:10:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Desler [880] (Score:2) 02Re:Standard operating procedure - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:15] <exec> 08└─Written by someone who has clearly never worked in the gaming indistry or had to work with either testing labs or state gaming regulators. But ignorant claims are pretty cute.
[19:10:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Standard operating procedure - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:16] <exec> 08└─They don't need to cheat. Winners are good publicity. And the rules allow the casino to legally skim a nice big percentage (over 20% on penny slots, 5 to 10% on everything else). Can a casino get greedy and try to improve the bottom line? Sure. But there is not need for grand conspiracies. One disgr...
[19:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Desler [880] (Score:2) 02Re:Standard operating procedure - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:19] <exec> 08└─Not to mention that trying to cheat a player would get either the manufacturer or the casino in hot water with gaming regulators. Despite what the person above claimed, the bureaucrats in the gamig commissions are pretty hard-assed.
[19:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Gambling -> Education - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:21] <exec> 08└─Money from the casino, like state lottery proceeds, help grow the state's educaton[sic] fun
[19:10:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Money per mile - 06Hypersonic Cruise Missile Scores USD$175m DARPA Cash - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:32] <exec> 08└─Astronauts. Astronauts are cool. Why don't you ride a ballistic missile to work, uncool person?
[19:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Money per mile - 06Hypersonic Cruise Missile Scores USD$175m DARPA Cash - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:34] <exec> 08└─Because I don't want my office to be a crater when I arrive. Wait, let me think about that... Why DON'T I take a ballistic missile to work?
[19:10:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Money per mile - 06Hypersonic Cruise Missile Scores USD$175m DARPA Cash - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:36] <exec> 08└─Courtesy of new tech, you can just blowtorch the top 10 floors when you land on the roof, instead of making a crater. (most of the time) Just pinpoint which cube/office you want obliterated first. Crater optional depending on the construction standards and the responsiveness of the fire department.
[19:10:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fauxlosopher [4804] (Score:1) 02Determining the extent of laws' reach - 06It’s Finally Legal to Hack Your Own Devices (Even Your Car) - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:53] <exec> 08└─If you are so burdened by regulation you could always move to Somalia.
[19:10:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:3, Informative) 02Is Andy Greenberg A Moron... - 06It’s Finally Legal to Hack Your Own Devices (Even Your Car) - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:56] <exec> 08└─Or is he just a poor proofreader? From TFA: Last Friday, a new exemption to the decades-old law known as the Digital Millennium Copyright Act quietly kicked in, carving out protections for Americans to hack their own devices without fear that the DMCA’s ban on circumventing protections on copyrigh...
[19:10:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:Is Andy Greenberg A Moron... - 06It’s Finally Legal to Hack Your Own Devices (Even Your Car) - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:58] <exec> 08└─Oops. Forgot this one from Ars Technica: http://arstechnica.com [arstechnica.com]
[19:10:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02DVDs - 06It’s Finally Legal to Hack Your Own Devices (Even Your Car) - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:00] <exec> 08└─Does this mean I can finally rip my own DVDs? After all, they are an electronic device of a sort. Perhaps the same could be said about Blu-ray disks, although I do not rip those.
[19:12:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Most of Education is Waste - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 1561 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:22] <exec> 08└─If you read Twain with any depth, you should learn to see through cons, shams, and fluffed up business cases. It's all there. Naturally, this is discouraged because we can't have kids learning to distrust commercials and politicians. Next thing you know they'd be comparison shopping and forming unio...
[19:14:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Linux on the desktop - 06Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:15] <exec> 08└─>which hasn't been updated for months, because the last update it received ... I understand the OS updates itself. As a non-user I may have missed out on some of the news, so how is yours able to escape the auto updates?
[19:14:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Microsoft is getting what they want - 06Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - 806 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:20] <exec> 08└─Remember when W10 was announced to be 'free' for the first year? And the big misunderstanding that had to be clarified by Redmond? "No, no, there is no monthly cost. It's a once time purchase price that's being waived for the first year. A promotion to garner lots of customers! We never said anythin...
[19:15:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:More interesting - 06Beverage Industry Funded Research Downplays Soft Drink Ties to Obesity and Diabetes - 749 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:45] <exec> 08└─>Maybe, just maybe, does this have something to do with the general level of inactivity? Yes, yes it does. But please remember that even a very active person is still having to process & deal with the volumes of sugar & acidic properties that soda brings. Just like a fat lazy bum with the only...
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[20:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Musky always does right - 06NASA Advisory Committee Skeptical of Spacex Manned Refueling Plan - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:09:52] <exec> 08└─You'd refuel your car with your children in the back seat, wouldn't you? Why shouldn't Musky refuel his rocket while you wait inside in your seat? Musky is a charismatic supergenius, and you are like children compared to him, aren't you? Certainly you don't believe Musky would endanger you in any wa...
[20:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Biometrics - 06All it Takes to Steal Your Face is a Special Pair of Glasses - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:01] <exec> 08└─The market has already provided us with a solution [google.com]. Which is probably how those guys got the idea in the first place ... "Timmy, give me those, I wanna check my face recognition algorithm".
[20:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Biometrics - 06All it Takes to Steal Your Face is a Special Pair of Glasses - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:03] <exec> 08└─That's why several European countries are banning it.
[20:10:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score:3, Interesting) 02New frames with new faces - 06All it Takes to Steal Your Face is a Special Pair of Glasses - 494 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:05] <exec> 08└─As a wearer of reading glasses, I now want a new pair with a new frame! I want to open a shop right away with "Print Your Own Face Frame Glasses". I need to make my shop mobile and follow all the demonstrations with mobile printing facilities. Many countries have laws against wearing full-face masks...
[20:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:New frames with new faces - 06All it Takes to Steal Your Face is a Special Pair of Glasses - 1194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:07] <exec> 08└─Whereas... it is known that terrorists wear glasses, it shall from hereon forth be prohibited to wear glasses. All individuals with impaired eye-sight will be issued one (1) pair of on-retina-lenses or, if they choose not to accept these on-retina-lenses, will be deported to a re-education camp. The...
[20:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Old news - 06All it Takes to Steal Your Face is a Special Pair of Glasses - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:10] <exec> 08└─https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2PlSznjS3Y [youtube.com]
[20:10:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Old news - 06All it Takes to Steal Your Face is a Special Pair of Glasses - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:12] <exec> 08└─Older, even. A Scanner Darkly (2006) [imdb.com]
[20:10:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:penny slot - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 597 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:35] <exec> 08└─Most machines also indicate their maximum payout, somewhere on the face or in the info panel. So then lets make it worth the casino and game machine makers trouble to prevent these malfunction issues. Legislate a default award set to some exorbitantly high payout required under state law any time th...
[20:10:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Standard operating procedure - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:50] <exec> 08└─Well, since Nevada gets most of its state income from gambling, any threat to the trust in casinos will be met with appropriate disproportional response from both law enforcement and casino spokespeople (those big ones who don't actually speak much).
[20:10:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Gambling -> Education - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:52] <exec> 08└─"You want to fund math education with a program that only makes money because poor people aren't taught statistics?" [soylentnews.org]
[20:10:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Sorry guys - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:54] <exec> 08└─I had to do the best I could without a requirement spec from marketing. Also, I was in a rush because I was called in to do some last minuting coding for the European Mars lander project.
[20:11:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Money per mile - 06Hypersonic Cruise Missile Scores USD$175m DARPA Cash - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:08] <exec> 08└─The cubicle dogs are dreaming of freedom / vengeance today.... Must be weds...
[20:12:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:UPDATE! - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:27] <exec> 08└─It will be back, like GPS/accelerometer tracking will soon be "not mandatory, but it's $10000 if you don't". See Driven post above.
[20:12:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Most of Education is Waste - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 944 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:43] <exec> 08└─Mercenary is a hard word, let's just say that Descartes joined a Dutch army, served under Maurice of Nassau, and also served under Maximillian of Bavaria. France and England both managed to largely stay out of the Thirty Years War of Religion, and back in the days before the ideology of the nation-s...
[20:16:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score:2) 02Re:Differentiate the sweeteners - 06Beverage Industry Funded Research Downplays Soft Drink Ties to Obesity and Diabetes - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:16:11] <exec> 08└─"The problem is excess sugar consumption, period."
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[21:09:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02When safe isn't safe - 06NASA Advisory Committee Skeptical of Spacex Manned Refueling Plan - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:09:58] <exec> 08└─"This is a hazardous operation," Space Station Advisory Committee Chairman Thomas Stafford, a former NASA astronaut and retired Air Force general, said during a conference call on Monday. Stafford said the group's concerns were heightened after an explosion of an unmanned SpaceX rocket while it was...
[21:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Bioirony - 06All it Takes to Steal Your Face is a Special Pair of Glasses - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:07] <exec> 08└─There is a lot of irony in you posting a google link with an embedded tracking-id in the comments on a story about avoiding tracking. Here's a clean link to the same search: https://encrypted.google.com [google.com]
[21:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Old news - 06All it Takes to Steal Your Face is a Special Pair of Glasses - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:15] <exec> 08└─Biometrics older, even [youtube.com].
[21:10:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Up to 100% - 06All it Takes to Steal Your Face is a Special Pair of Glasses - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:17] <exec> 08└─"Up to 100%"? With no lower bound, that could be practically anything.
[21:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Capt. Obvious [6089] (Score:2) 02Re:Up to 100% - 06All it Takes to Steal Your Face is a Special Pair of Glasses - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:19] <exec> 08└─You should read the article. One pair of glasses had a 100% fooling rate (across implementations). Others had 87%, and others were in between. Note that the 87% had both gender-changing and specific identity features. That said, the 100% is really suspect because it was photoshopped, not a real pict...
[21:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 0280% - 06All it Takes to Steal Your Face is a Special Pair of Glasses - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:21] <exec> 08└─There goal for the lower bound on their dodging attack was 80%. The actual result in their testing was 91.67% - but that was just one experiment out of 8, the other 7 experiments had 100% success rate.
[21:10:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Boohoo - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:52] <exec> 08└─There you are, MikeeUSA! Have you been watching the new Ash vs. Evil Dead? Baal's in it. I thought it might be relevant to your interests.
[21:10:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Boohoo - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:53] <exec> 08└─There's not really much of a case here for her. All slot machines like this have a statement on the screens that, per gaming regulations, must be clearly visible at all times that say all jackpots must be verified and that any malfunctions void any plays or payouts. This isn't the first case and won...
[21:12:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Black Mirror - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 587 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:03] <exec> 08└─Thanks for the reminder - I've been looking forward to this for ages, but had missed the launch date. Have you seen the previous 2 series (?seasons in US-speak), the UK ones? There was quite an overlap with the 15-million merits episode (point-scoring and attention-whoring), but that one was satisfy...
[21:12:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:so, no farcebook... - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:22] <exec> 08└─Cannot have freeriders going their merry way! "Freewalkers".
[21:12:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not happeninhg... Yet. - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:12:29] <exec> 08└─push through the original bad ass implementation.
[21:12:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02They are Missing a lot without the Photos - 06UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:12:41] <exec> 08└─The insurer will examine posts and likes by the Facebook user, although not photos
[21:12:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03gawdonblue [412] (Score:2) 02Re:Most of Education is Waste - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:57] <exec> 08└─Rene Descarte was a drunken fart: "I drink therefore I am."
[21:13:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03ncc74656 [4917] (Score:1) 02Re:Most of Education is Waste - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:03] <exec> 08└─I am a self taught typist, but I could have taken typing in school - I did computing instead which was probably more useful
[21:13:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:49] <exec> 08└─Это было бы лучше аргумент для обучения кириллице.
[21:14:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Technology has definitely advanced - 06Tech Advances Since the Last Cubs World Series Win - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:11] <exec> 08└─I think Debian put out a release during that time.
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[22:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Musky always does right - 06NASA Advisory Committee Skeptical of Spacex Manned Refueling Plan - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:47] <exec> 08└─I have to admit, the Musky troll is the only one that routinely makes me laugh.
[22:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:When safe isn't safe - 06NASA Advisory Committee Skeptical of Spacex Manned Refueling Plan - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:50] <exec> 08└─That's a huge problem in the wake of this accident which if it had happened during a crewed mission might result in injury or death to crew members despite a LAS.
[22:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:When safe isn't safe - 06NASA Advisory Committee Skeptical of Spacex Manned Refueling Plan - 873 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:52] <exec> 08└─Fuel transfer is always handled in this manner because it is a dynamic process. Gas stations are the exception, not the rule. Fuel transfers are done away from everything else, and away from everyone else, because that is when things are the most vulnerable to spills and ignition due to ESD or whate...
[22:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:When safe isn't safe - 06NASA Advisory Committee Skeptical of Spacex Manned Refueling Plan - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:54] <exec> 08└─Fuel transfer is always handled in this manner because it is a dynamic process. Gas stations are the exception, not the rule. Fuel transfers are done away from everything else, and away from everyone else, because that is when things are the most vulnerable to spills and ignition due to ESD or whate...
[22:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:When safe isn't safe - 06NASA Advisory Committee Skeptical of Spacex Manned Refueling Plan - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:56] <exec> 08└─And lots and lots of pressurized ones too (tankers, trucks, LPG, pipelines...). I'm more receptive to his "launch delay" argument. If you can't fuel an hour before you put the guys in, how long can you stand on the pad for a minor hold to clear?
[22:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:When safe isn't safe - 06NASA Advisory Committee Skeptical of Spacex Manned Refueling Plan - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:58] <exec> 08└─You're assuming that the fueling process is no more risky than when it has already been loaded. In fact the risk is much higher during the fueling process.
[22:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:When safe isn't safe - 06NASA Advisory Committee Skeptical of Spacex Manned Refueling Plan - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:01] <exec> 08└─the risk is much higher during the fueling process.
[22:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Hurry and safe aren't friends - 06NASA Advisory Committee Skeptical of Spacex Manned Refueling Plan - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:10:03] <exec> 08└─It sounds like the extra cold propellants cause one to need to do things one would rather not do. Perhaps there is a way to continue to cool the propellants after they are in the rocket so that these two issues are not coupled. Then one can choose what is best for the folks and the fuel separately....
[22:10:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Seriously? - 06All it Takes to Steal Your Face is a Special Pair of Glasses - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:10:23] <exec> 08└─After all of the "copyright violation is not theft" arguments that have been made, martyb still insists on posting this story as "steal"? Copying, is not stealing. To steal somebody's face, you'd need a scalpel, or at least a sharp knife. Preferably with Nicholas Cage and John Travolta locked up som...
[22:10:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Capt. Obvious [6089] (Score:2) 02Re:penny slot - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:44] <exec> 08└─Why wouldn't it be? For one thing, a penny slot is the minimum, it can easily reach 50 cents or more a spin. And a dollar can win you several hundred million in the state lotteries. So why shouldn't half that entry win one tenth the prize?
[22:10:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Desler [880] (Score:2) 02Re:penny slot - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:45] <exec> 08└─Because outside of a progressive-type game, no penny slot has a payout percent in the 100s of millions. The max payout percent for most slot games is nowhere near that high.
[22:10:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:penny slot - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:50] <exec> 08└─Highly regulated only when someone wins. There's never any verification on all the losing plays. How many people actually won but the machines told them they lost? We'll never know and just for that the machines should always pay out whatever they say. You guys are corrupt scum and that's not becaus...
[22:10:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Desler [880] (Score:2) 02Re:penny slot - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:53] <exec> 08└─These failures would suddenly disappear over night.
[22:11:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Desler [880] (Score:2) 02Re:Boohoo - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:03] <exec> 08└─That's fine, but where is the balance here?
[22:11:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score:2) 02Re:Boohoo - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:06] <exec> 08└─How are the numerous customers who are being robbed (playing and having lower odds than they should) supposed to know the machine should be audited and their games reimbursed?
[22:11:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Capt. Obvious [6089] (Score:2) 02Re:Standard operating procedure - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:16] <exec> 08└─And the rules allow the casino to legally skim a nice big percentage
[22:11:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Gambling -> Education - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:20] <exec> 08└─I don't know if that's the right complaint. Would you suggest teaching them statistics even if it does not alter their behavior? I would argue that the only thing that would stop poor people from playing the lottery is not being poor, and that wouldn't work in 100% of the cases. I feel that taxing i...
[22:11:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Max payment - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:11:23] <exec> 08└─She should really get whatever the max payment is for that slot machine, not just a steak dinner. Now the lawyers get paid..
[22:11:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:USD$ ?? - 06Hypersonic Cruise Missile Scores USD$175m DARPA Cash - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:41] <exec> 08└─No! The "D" is redundant you idiot! Not the post! Geeze, what moron mods we have around here.
[22:11:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Car dealer warranty void... - 06It’s Finally Legal to Hack Your Own Devices (Even Your Car) - 898 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:57] <exec> 08└─This stuff has been governed by the Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act since 1975. You can make any modifications to your car that you want (except perhaps in emission-controlled areas, that's another argument), and the dealer/manufacturer cannot refuse to honor the warranty, *unless* they can reasonably p...
[22:12:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Pedantic much? - 06It’s Finally Legal to Hack Your Own Devices (Even Your Car) - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:12:01] <exec> 08└─The DMCA went into effect in 1998, some 18 years ago (I suppose you could say 1.8 decades, I guess).
[22:13:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score:2) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:52] <exec> 08└─A C+ average in English? You should have taken a programming class so you could've gotten a C++ there!
[22:14:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 1631 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:06] <exec> 08└─The only alleged benefit of cursive I ever heard was that it was easier on your hand because you don't pick up your pencil; that was never the case for me. That was never the case for me either. There's only two benefits of cursive I've heard that have any ring of truth to them at all: 1) it's faste...
[22:16:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Michelle Obama's FLOTUS account - 06Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:16:09] <exec> 08└─Hillary is that you?
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[23:09:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:When safe isn't safe - 06NASA Advisory Committee Skeptical of SpaceX Manned Refueling Plan - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:44] <exec> 08└─Your "serious and unsafe" pressure on the launch is a red herring. They need to be able to handle launch delays of many hours. If you're saying their system can't do that without serious and unsafe conditions, then they need quit wasting everyone's time and scrap this procedure right now.
[23:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Brittle Pedantry FTL - 06All it Takes to Steal Your Face is a Special Pair of Glasses - 488 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:08] <exec> 08└─Oh look, dictionary pedant is angry that the rest of the world doesn't conform to his with this personal definitions. That's never happened before! Using someone else's biometrics to impersonate them easily falls within the common usages of the word "steal." https://en.oxforddictionaries.com
[23:10:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Desler [880] (Score:2) 02Re:penny slot - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:35] <exec> 08└─Highly regulated only when someone wins.
[23:10:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Boohoo - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:46] <exec> 08└─Sounds like you're not a lawyer douchebag.
[23:10:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Boohoo - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:50] <exec> 08└─Based upon what? Losing one spin? Ten spins? All day and no jackpot? What you are saying does not seem to make sense.
[23:10:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03charon [5660] (Score:1) 02Re:Boohoo - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:52] <exec> 08└─How can the software running this machine not have a sanity check for this eventuality? I assume it's programmed to know its own maximum payoff. I cannot believe there's really nowhere that says: if (payoff > maximum_payoff) { payoff = maximum_payoff; reboot(self); }
[23:11:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score:2) 02Re:Standard operating procedure - 06Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:11:03] <exec> 08└─We can just claim MALFUNCTION!
[23:11:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Yay! DMCA is bad badness - 06It’s Finally Legal to Hack Your Own Devices (Even Your Car) - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:11:35] <exec> 08└─I moderated you funny because I'm thinking what we're all thinking.
[23:11:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:2) 02Re:Pretty sure engine parameters are already illeg - 06It’s Finally Legal to Hack Your Own Devices (Even Your Car) - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:11:43] <exec> 08└─Why is it so many people complain about "having" to run premium when they modify their car? Would you get a new spray job, and then park it under a tree to allow it to be covered in sap and birdshit? Would you buy a $5k suit, and then sew Megadeth patches all over it? Buy a toilet and then proceed t...
[23:11:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Pretty sure engine parameters are already illeg - 06It’s Finally Legal to Hack Your Own Devices (Even Your Car) - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:11:46] <exec> 08└─Buy a toilet and then proceed to just shit in the bath tub? Hell ya! The dog drinks from the toilet.... duh! :)
[23:11:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:Pedantic much? - 06It’s Finally Legal to Hack Your Own Devices (Even Your Car) - 1198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:11:52] <exec> 08└─Actually, as I looked into it, I was less concerned with the poor usage of the English language than I was with the fact that this mastermind was reporting on year-old news as if it were current. Beyond that, words have meaning. I wouldn't have quibbled with "nearly two-decades old" or even "two dec...
[23:13:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Re:Most of Education is Waste - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:22] <exec> 08└─"an act related to requiring that cursive writing be taught in common schools,"
[23:13:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:50] <exec> 08└─Even if you believe that these social science studies are valid in some way, you realize that it would be utterly absurd to literally claim that this applies to 100% of all people, right? That rarely happens.
[23:13:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:55] <exec> 08└─Many cannot control themselves and do a lot of other stuff on the computer in the classroom, from playing games to social media and whatnot. The attention span has been diminishing...
[23:13:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:58] <exec> 08└─the decline (and collapse) of corporal punishment in the home and at school for example.
[23:13:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 1054 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:00] <exec> 08└─This is total BS. Look, I'm all in favor of manual note-taking. I'm an engineer; I take lots of notes on notepads, green engineering paper, etc. I take notes, I draw diagrams, etc. None of this requires cursive writing. In fact, cursive is the worst thing to use, because it's so unreadable. All the...
[23:14:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03i286NiNJA [2768] (Score:1) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:04] <exec> 08└─No. Nothing you say makes up for the fact that cursive wastes at least a few hours of school time per week for multiple years. Do you know the kinda crap you can teach a gradeschooler with 100 hours of instruction across 2 years? Shit you could train them to be a master of some adult trades.
[23:14:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:07] <exec> 08└─Two reasons: 1) Revenge! 2) Because they failed to learn any kind of calligraphy and yet want a reason to feel smug.
[23:14:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 438 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:19] <exec> 08└─Incidentally, I wrote an 8 page letter IN CURSIVE today to one of my prisoner correspondents. Why do I write by hand instead of type it? Simple. I enjoy writing in cursive, and with a fountain pen to boot! Am I crazy? Nope. I'm better for it. Writing by hand is far more enjoyable than writing with a...
[23:14:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cursive - 06The Lost Virtue of Cursive - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:21] <exec> 08└─You can read all of those online, in print. And yes, there is value in being able to read the original documents.
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