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[00:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:moto sport - 06Apple Watch Leads the Dying Smartwatch Market - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:41] <exec> 08└─1ff6 Well, when $500 is about the bill to have a nice Rolex serviced (every 2 to 5 years) smart watches start to make sense.
[00:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02My smartwatch never worked - 06Apple Watch Leads the Dying Smartwatch Market - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:09:47] <exec> 08└─it always read 4:20.
[00:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Silos - 06Apple Watch Leads the Dying Smartwatch Market - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:09:49] <exec> 08└─My former roomate only really liked the appearance of the Samsung smartwatch. The reason she passed it up? I requires a Samsung phone to work. All of the IoT things try to force you into the manufac 1503 turer's data silo. I suspect that is why they are not too popular.
[00:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Absolutely.Geek [5328] (Score:2) 02Pebble - 06Apple Watch Leads the Dying Smartwatch Market - 576 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:51] <exec> 08└─I have a Pebble Time. The notifications are good; just have to allow only the useful stuff. Battery lasts a week. Great when working in a noisy environment; I can look at an incoming call, decide if it is important enough to stop what I am doing and either send them to voice mail or walk to a quiet...
[00:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:cool but useless - 06Prototype System Replaces Stairs and Elevators with Human Power - 1469 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:02] <exec> 08└─Aside from the weirdness factor, I don't see any real objection to using them, especially if they only take 1/10th the effort of stairs. Seems like an ultra-low-effort ladder that could easily come with drink and bag holders built in. On the other hand, I see some major potential objections to *depl...
[00:10:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:Stairs are multiplexing - 06Prototype System Replaces Stairs and Elevators with Human Power - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:17] <exec> 08└─I think the seat prevents it from being used as a fire pole.
[00:10:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Something smells fishy here - 06Prototype System Replaces Stairs and Elevators with Human Power - 391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:33] <exec> 08└─That may work, but only if it is already on the floor you are on (so you have energy for the ascent stored in springs or a counterweight or something). However, if the machine is on the floor above you from the last guy who used it, and you want to go up, then you need to get it down to your floor s...
[00:11:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:I like old ships - 06Amundsen's Ship Raised! - 693 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:11:16] <exec> 08└─Having been on board a few, the thing you notice really quickly is the complete lack of privacy on a typical-sized ship. For just about anything: The reason the poop deck is called the poop deck is because that's where sailors would poop over the side. They slept in hammocks packed in like sardines,...
[00:11:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:I like old ships - 06Amundsen's Ship Raised! - 1232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:11:17] <exec> 08└─Naval vessels were no more "roomy". Warships always carry more men than they need - if it takes 80 bodies to crew the ship, then the crew is set at around 240, because you expect casualties in combat. The old sailing ships' only sizeable space that was sheltered from the elements was the gun deck. H...
[00:11:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Re:Free Market Capitalism! - 06AT&T Is Spying on Americans for Profit, New Documents Reveal - 593 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:11:43] <exec> 08└─You don't understand the "free" in free market. (Or, more likely, you do understand but you jump on every opportunity to trash the system that feeds you.) When I go to the store, I am free to decide whether to spend my money on cereal or bread. Or neither or both. The money AT&T took from the govern...
[00:11:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Confirmed - 06AT&T Is Spying on Americans for Profit, New Documents Reveal - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:11:50] <exec> 08└─It's a conspiracy!
[00:11:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Confirmed - 06AT&T Is Spying on Americans for Profit, New Documents Reveal - 3 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:11:52] <exec> 08└─OMG
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[01:09:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03iamjacksusername [1479] (Score:2) 02Other compensation - 06Volkswagen's $14.7 Billion Settlement Approved, Buybacks Begin Next Month - 600 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:09:44] <exec> 08└─Like vouchers for discounts on a new Volkwagon? That cannot be combined with other discounts? I'm sure. It sounds like RIAA settlements where they pay in CDs valued at full retail value as part of the settlement. Volkswagon should have been given a choice: Fix the problem or, if that is not possible...
[01:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Techwolf [87] (Score:2) 02polluction per mile - 06Volkswagen's $14.7 Billion Settlement Approved, Buybacks Begin Next Month - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:09:45] <exec> 08└─Has anyone tested pre and post fix emmisioms per mile? If MPG is reduced too much to meet percentages, it can actually be more polluction per mile driven.
[01:09:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:moto sport - 06Apple Watch Leads the Dying Smartwatch Market - 2884 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:09:57] <exec> 08└─There's a lot of self imposed limitations 1) It doesn't know anything about my PC. It only talks to my phone. It also talks wifi and its kinda weird if I'm in the bathroom at work and its connected via wifi all the way back to my desk charging phone. There are linux PAM modules that can sniff BT or...
[01:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Screen too Small - 06Apple Watch Leads the Dying Smartwatch Market - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:02] <exec> 08└─A strange cross between Omegle and a peephole simulator. I don't usually drink this much, will be interesting to read this in the morning. Seems like a good idea at this blood alcohol level.
[01:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My smartwatch never worked - 06Apple Watch Leads the Dying Smartwatch Market - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:07] <exec> 08└─( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) - t
[01:10:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03trimtab [2194] (Score:1) 02Pebble - 06Apple Watch Leads the Dying Smartwatch Market - 1156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:10:11] <exec> 08└─I have an original Pebble and now a Pebble Time that is quite handy for: - filtering notifications - controlling audio playing on the smartphone over Bluetooth or audio out. Particularly, while driving. - opening smart locks - Being a FitBit: + step tracking + sleep tracking all while sh...
[01:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03iamjacksusername [1479] (Score:2) 02Offline Data - 06Apple Watch Leads the Dying Smartwatch Market - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:10:13] <exec> 08└─Does anybody know of a fitbit type tracker that just lets you pull the raw data or uses a local-only application. I.e., I have enough data about mylife scattered about the cloud. I'd prefer Google, Apple or whomever not selling my health information to anybody who asks as well. I have not been able...
[01:10:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Innovative but - 06Prototype System Replaces Stairs and Elevators with Human Power - 416 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:27] <exec> 08└─Less than 10% of the energy required to climb stairs is also a specious argument... where is the energy coming from to lift a 150kg post-fast-food humanoid up several stories in a building? If the competition is elevators, then, sure, this thing could be lighter and move less excess mass, but for hu...
[01:10:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:2) 02Re:Innovative but - 06Prototype System Replaces Stairs and Elevators with Human Power - 463 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:29] <exec> 08└─"you won't be getting 90% reduction in effort without adding something to the human power input." Pully with gears don't know if you have ever seen one in operation but they are great little device that allow a human in the case of a car engine lift it out its compartment with very little energy exp...
[01:10:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:Something smells fishy here - 06Prototype System Replaces Stairs and Elevators with Human Power - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:55] <exec> 08└─That was my most charitable interpretation. The only problem: you can measure the power output of a physics student by having them run up a flight of stairs. For their claim to hold water, climbing stairs would have to be 90% inefficient.
[01:10:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02Re:Something smells fishy here - 06Prototype System Replaces Stairs and Elevators with Human Power - 1655 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:59] <exec> 08└─It says 10% of the effort not 10% of the energy. It depends on how you define "effort". I don't think they mean work/energy by effort, because it will require roughly the same amount of 1446 energy to lift something up a certain distance whether you pull it up by an elevator or bring it up the stai...
[01:11:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:2) 02Re:Actually you are lucky... - 06New Tech Could Let Devices Function for Years Without a Battery - 462 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:11:12] <exec> 08└─"In contrast I have had many no-name batteries last in the same devices for years without leaking, indicating either Duracell is building their batteries 'hot' with a capacity that doesn't actually survive long term" I worked in one of their plants 20 or so years ago almost all them no name brands w...
[01:11:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:WOAH - 06New Tech Could Let Devices Function for Years Without a Battery - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:11:15] <exec> 08└─Must not live in Florida, AA batteries here turn to a pile of blue-green salt within 10 years - and that's in the indoor controlled environments.
[01:11:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Foreign Johnnys - 06Amundsen's Ship Raised! - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:11:48] <exec> 08└─Another Foreign Johnny whose parents didn't know how to spell Ronald.
[01:12:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:New Facisim - 06AT&T Is Spying on Americans for Profit, New Documents Reveal - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:12:08] <exec> 08└─This is already unconstitutional (and any courts that claim otherwise are incorrect), so Congress doesn't need to change the laws; we merely need to enforce the Constitution.
[01:12:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Accountability - 06AT&T Is Spying on Americans for Profit, New Documents Reveal - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:12:34] <exec> 08└─I'm not so queasy there. In theory if our justice system didn't suck and didn't find people guilty on some pretty flimsy circumstantial stuff or planted stuff then there wouldn't be much of a problem.
[01:12:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Stick to the Facts - 06AT&T Is Spying on Americans for Profit, New Documents Reveal - 322 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:12:50] <exec> 08└─Here's the thing: If they have a copy of the URL, and they have the Wayback Machine [archive.org], then they effectively have exactly what you are reading. Also, while they *say* they aren't recording calls, there's nothing technically capable of stopping them from doing so, and you don't know about...
[01:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Frustrating - 06Seagate Launches 5 TB 2.5" HDDs and 2 TB SMR SSHDs - 1114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:19] <exec> 08└─Ah, this chestnut again. I take it you're not aware that nobody ever said that at the time. They were referring to the break up of the first 1mb into 640kb of low mem and the rest being separated. They did it at the time because they lacked the address space for all of it. And yes, at the time, 640k...
[01:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Frustrating - 06Seagate Launches 5 TB 2.5" HDDs and 2 TB SMR SSHDs - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:21] <exec> 08└─While my primary desktop has been happy with 300GB for quite some time, my new pro laptop has a 4k screen and all the oomph to do some 4k video or 3D editing. Those files do take an enormous amount of space. How many people really need that much storage? few. How many people will buy the biggest any...
[01:17:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:client uses it - 06Audit Reveals Significant Vulnerabilities for TrueCrypt and Successor VeraCrypt - 815 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:17:17] <exec> 08└─Because Truecrypt is known to have exploits, we still don't know why they suddenly abandoned it and the developers of Veracrypt appear to be taking things seriously and were cooperating with the audit. I'm sure they'll fix whatever the audit before too long. OTOH, at some point you do have to make t...
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[02:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Or maybe 2/3rds of that... - 06Global Renewable Energy Capacity Overtakes Coal - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:09:36] <exec> 08└─The International Energy Agency [IEA] says that the world's capacity to generate electricity from renewable sources has now overtaken coal.
[02:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:polluction per mile - 06Volkswagen's $14.7 Billion Settlement Approved, Buybacks Begin Next Month - 598 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:09:46] <exec> 08└─Emissions per mile can't be compared as there's not an approved fix for the US cars (yet, if ever). Short answer - yes, any fix likely will increase emissions overall. Older cars will probably be tuned to run cooler, decreasing NOx emissions at the expense of CO2 and performance. Newer cars have a c...
[02:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Silos - 06Apple Watch Leads the Dying Smartwatch Market - 1000 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:08] <exec> 08└─Nah it was a fad, just like tablets. Remember when everybody was talking "tablet this" and "death of the PC, hail tablets" that? Now you can't give the things away as people found them too limiting compared to their laptops and smartphones. Its the same thing here, you need a smartphone to connect t...
[02:10:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Doomed from the start - 06Apple Watch Leads the Dying Smartwatch Market - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:10:12] <exec> 08└─I'm not even sure who the smart watches are for? I'm sure it probably doesn't even last half as long as an electronic much less a traditional wrist watch If I wanted to check messages, I can just take out my phone. smart watches was doomed form the start. I never met anyone who said "If only there w...
[02:10:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Innovative but - 06Prototype System Replaces Stairs and Elevators with Human Power - 1048 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:28] <exec> 08└─Pulley systems don't magically require less energy -- they just spread the energy expenditure over a much longer time. So the force needed at any time is less, but the energy used is basically the same total. Same thing in this case ascending stairs. Basic physics and conservation of energy says you...
[02:10:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score:2) 02Re:Capacity - 06Prototype System Replaces Stairs and Elevators with Human Power - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:37] <exec> 08└─I'd use it, but I'll also think nothing of walking 10 floors to visit my parents.
[02:10:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Video of the concept in action - 06Prototype System Replaces Stairs and Elevators with Human Power - 886 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:50] <exec> 08└─Yeah....no. those with arthritic hands, wheelchairs, walkers, packages, hell I know a couple bikers that would have serious issues with this thing because they are big linebacker looking guys and would have trouble getting in and out of that thing. I really don't see this not running afoul of USA ha...
[02:10:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:Video of the concept in action - 06Prototype System Replaces Stairs and Elevators with Human Power - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:52] <exec> 08└─Power=Work/time Work=force*distance The work an elevator does does not change (though counter-weights can help). Therefore to get a low-power elevator, all you need is a gear reduction to move at a slower speed.
[02:11:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03fliptop [1666] (Score:2) 022 guys moving a mattress upstairs - 06Prototype System Replaces Stairs and Elevators with Human Power - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:11:04] <exec> 08└─They didn't include that in the demo. Can you even carry a couple-few bags of groceries on it?
[02:11:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:WOAH - 06New Tech Could Let Devices Function for Years Without a Battery - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:11:21] <exec> 08└─Just gotta find a charged zed pee em... sorry, zee pee em. :)
[02:11:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03deadstick [5110] (Score:2) 02Re:I like old ships - 06Amundsen's Ship Raised! - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:11:53] <exec> 08└─that's where sailors would poop over the side
[02:12:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Confirmed - 06AT&T Is Spying on Americans for Profit, New Documents Reveal - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:12:30] <exec> 08└─WTF? TMI!
[02:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Frustrating - 06Seagate Launches 5 TB 2.5" HDDs and 2 TB SMR SSHDs - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:27] <exec> 08└─In other words, you didn't actually read my post and would rather post some nonsense.
[02:15:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03charon [5660] (Score:1) 02Re:Dire Straits! - 06Fission Power Plant, 43 Years in the Making, Comes Online in Tennessee - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:15:09] <exec> 08└─Even when I completely get aristarchus, I still have no clue what he's saying.
[02:15:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sarasani [3283] (Score:2) 02Re:Good riddance. - 06Twitter Planning Hundreds More Job Cuts as Soon as This Week - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:15:42] <exec> 08└─Yes yes, I get the joke, but I don't think one could state that "social media" === "posting comments on the internet"? After all, online commentary had been around for nearly a decade before social media came on the scene.
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[03:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02At least we can get - 06Study Casts Doubt on Cosmic Acceleration and Dark Energy - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:09:41] <exec> 08└─The name of another network technology out of it.
[03:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Or maybe 2/3rds of that... - 06Global Renewable Energy Capacity Overtakes Coal - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:49] <exec> 08└─Too bad more than half of it is offline at any given time. Something about being on a round planet.
[03:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Or maybe 2/3rds of that... - 06Global Renewable Energy Capacity Overtakes Coal - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:51] <exec> 08└─There is, but it blows backwards at night so all the wind turbines spin backwards and end up sucking energy out of the grid.
[03:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:Or maybe 2/3rds of that... - 06Global Renewable Energy Capacity Overtakes Coal - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:53] <exec> 08└─Too bad electricity demand is higher when the sun is shining in most countries.
[03:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:moto sport - 06Apple Watch Leads the Dying Smartwatch Market - 532 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:14] <exec> 08└─They work really well for GPS directions on a motorcycle as well, although the most use I get out of mine is a a quick way to control volume, track, etc on my headphones at work. A few other things are quick access to 2-factor auth codes, bar codes for various cards, quick replies to texts, quick vo...
[03:10:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Re:Silos - 06Apple Watch Leads the Dying Smartwatch Market - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:26] <exec> 08└─Nah it was a fad, just like tablets. Remember when everybody was talking "tablet this" and "death of the PC, hail tablets" that...
[03:10:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Silos - 06Apple Watch Leads the Dying Smartwatch Market - 426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:28] <exec> 08└─For me the issues with the smart watches are primarily the cost and the battery life. If they didn't cost as much and had much better battery life I'd consider getting on. It would be kind of nice to have caller ID from the phone pop up on my watch and to have the bus schedule without having to take...
[03:10:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02My smart watch experiences so far - 06Apple Watch Leads the Dying Smartwatch Market - 3992 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:10:33] <exec> 08└─I'm well aware I don't represent the mainstream smartwatch market. I don't even represent the typical Soylentil smartwatch user. But I thought this could be a useful place to post my experience in case anyone else could benefit. For reference, my phone is a Note 3 -- big, clunky (with the triple-cap...
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[03:11:40] <exec> 08└─Technically, a charged ZPM with this tech *might* power something till the heat death of the universe. Whether or not that is possible, can you imagine for a second if we did make something that could think, record, and a limited fashion, interact with the rest of the universe? Perhaps that's why th...
[03:11:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Gary Johnson supports the mergers - 06Big Tech-Media Mergers Raise Fresh Privacy Concerns - 487 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:11:51] <exec> 08└─And he is absolutely correct. The issue isn't monopoly per se, but its persistence over time and barriers to market. https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] That the FCC is considering privacy concerns and how those are met going forward means the system is working as it should, an...
[03:12:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03fishybell [3156] 02Certainly - 06Amundsen's Ship Raised! - 107 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:12:07] <exec> 08└─They definitely don't make them like that anymore. That one sunk. Not a great track record for that design.
[03:12:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03KiloByte [375] (Score:2) 02Re:Nethack strikes again! - 06Amundsen's Ship Raised! - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:12:11] <exec> 08└─Try that when your character is named Maud.
[03:12:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Confirmed - 06AT&T Is Spying on Americans for Profit, New Documents Reveal - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:12:52] <exec> 08└─WTF? TMI!
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[04:09:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Bama Apologizes - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:09:35] <exec> 08└─https://youtu.be/IG0OIice9to [youtu.be]
[04:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Torpedo? - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:09:36] <exec> 08└─tor-pedo? groan Somebody is too clever for their own good
[04:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Accepted science can be wrong - 06Study Casts Doubt on Cosmic Acceleration and Dark Energy - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:09:46] <exec> 08└─and Nobel prizes usually require more than 3 sigma of confidence. I'm rooting for constant expansion.
[04:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Dark Energy Matters - 06Study Casts Doubt on Cosmic Acceleration and Dark Energy - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:09:48] <exec> 08└─Fuck all you cosmic racists!
[04:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dark Energy Matters - 06Study Casts Doubt on Cosmic Acceleration and Dark Energy - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:09:51] <exec> 08└─Have to admit dark energy/matter has been pretty convenient, much like aether, and has about as much backing evidence- it must be there otherwise how do you explain... Anyway, it always struck me as poor hypothesizing, and while neutral about evidence to the contrary, hopefully it will get cosmologi...
[04:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Or maybe 2/3rds of that... - 06Global Renewable Energy Capacity Overtakes Coal - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:10:01] <exec> 08└─Too bad the rivers turn off at night.
[04:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Or maybe 2/3rds of that... - 06Global Renewable Energy Capacity Overtakes Coal - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:10:03] <exec> 08└─Too bad the earth's core cools off at night.
[04:10:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Or maybe 2/3rds of that... - 06Global Renewable Energy Capacity Overtakes Coal - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:10:05] <exec> 08└─Too bad microbes stop metabolizing at night. Curse you, round planet!
[04:10:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Other compensation - 06Volkswagen's $14.7 Billion Settlement Approved, Buybacks Begin Next Month - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:10:14] <exec> 08└─A friend in CA bought a used diesel Jetta a few months before the cheating story broke. He's quite happy with the buyback offer, it is considerably more than he paid for the car, maybe 20% more(not sure of exact amount). At the same time, he really likes the car and he's going to miss it. I think th...
[04:10:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Other compensation - 06Volkswagen's $14.7 Billion Settlement Approved, Buybacks Begin Next Month - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:10:16] <exec> 08└─It's not the owner's problem at all. They're getting better performance and gas mileage as a result of this test dodge. That's why this car buy-back is going on. They might not get a lot of compliance for free repair service from owners who don't want their cars nerfed. But they sure will do better...
[04:10:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Roger Murdock [4897] (Score:1) 02The Only Feature That Matters - 06Apple Watch Leads the Dying Smartwatch Market - 493 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:10:49] <exec> 08└─to me... Is a battery that lasts months, not hours or days. I'd love a watch that notifies me of incoming text messages, I don't need to read them, just see who their from. Being able to silence or reject an incoming call would be nice too. I don't need to be able to answer a call because I'd have t...
[04:11:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03bziman [3577] (Score:2) 02Re:store brands - 06New Tech Could Let Devices Function for Years Without a Battery - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:11:52] <exec> 08└─Energon? Either you are powering Transformers, or maybe you mean Energizer?
[04:12:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Appalbarry [66] (Score:2) 02Re:Raised is a bit of a mis-nomer - 06Amundsen's Ship Raised! - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:12:29] <exec> 08└─The top of the Maud was routinely pointed out to anyone visiting Cambridge Bay. Old news to the locals.
[04:14:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:kpatch [...] kgraft [...] ksplice - 06Live Kernel Patches Available for Ubuntu (Gratis Up to 3 Systems) - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:14:44] <exec> 08└─Good to know about kexec.
[04:15:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03KiloByte [375] (Score:2) 02Definition of "child" - 06Baby "Born Twice" for Tumor Surgery - 406 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:15:16] <exec> 08└─I now realize that laws which our theocratic national socialist govt wants to pass are not utterly without merit. They want to ban "murdering a child in utero" which on the first glance is impossible because the legal definition of "child" is "a member of the species Homo Sapiens between birth and 1...
[04:16:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03In hydraulis [386] (Score:1) 02Re:Nuclear is Good - 06Fission Power Plant, 43 Years in the Making, Comes Online in Tennessee - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:16:04] <exec> 08└─the [nuclear power] plants are properly regulated and maintained
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[05:10:01] <exec> 08└─Too bad that . . . Wait a minute! This is a fucked meme! You know, a meme that is fucked! Because it is not true to begin with. So let us go, holding our memes tight, into the new morning that is a world without coal. Except for Blacksmiths. Yeah, you can use charcoal, but it burns too quickly! So...
[05:10:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02product dumping... - 06Apple Watch Leads the Dying Smartwatch Market - 398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:10:44] <exec> 08└─One large electronics / whiteware retailer in New Zealand has redone 30% of their floor for smartwatches of all make and hue. Dumping unsellable product commences, once again. We can enjoy 3-6 years ago camera models at brand new pricing. If they can't sell something in Outer Burajistan because its...
[05:13:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geotti [1146] (Score:2) 02Re:Frustrating - 06Seagate Launches 5 TB 2.5" HDDs and 2 TB SMR SSHDs - 934 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:58] <exec> 08└─Ok, so just the Vienna Symphonic Library [vsl.co.at] alone weighs over 960GB. Komplete [native-instruments.com] requires another 155 gigs, add up a few sample archives and other instruments and plugins and you're at well over 1.5TB just for your production rig. Then, of course, you need space to for...
[05:14:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geotti [1146] (Score:2) 02Re:Security - 06Live Kernel Patches Available for Ubuntu (Gratis Up to 3 Systems) - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:14:34] <exec> 08└─i'm not giving you or anyone a way to inject and later remove bits into my kernel. ... you know.. in an auto-update or live system that can get man-in-the-middle'd
[05:15:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Dire Straits! - 06Fission Power Plant, 43 Years in the Making, Comes Online in Tennessee - 448 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:15:44] <exec> 08└─Well, pro tip, look up the half-life of tritium. Has nothing to do with the point I was making. But still, military-industrial complex is the motive force behind nuclear power. And any time Charon, the ferryman to the underworld, does not understand what I am saying . . . hey! Could this be why I ha...
[05:15:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Dire Straits! - 06Fission Power Plant, 43 Years in the Making, Comes Online in Tennessee - 664 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:15:48] <exec> 08└─You are talking to someone who claims to be almost 2400 years old. Fissile Nuclear reactors produce waste that will emit lethal levels of radiation for more than 20,000 years. One of the interesting problems for the nuke waste disposal programs is how to mark this stuff as dangerous for people 20,00...
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[06:09:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02I Love Shoving Hemp Up My Ass - 06"Iridoplasts" Found in Begonia Leaves Enhance Light Harvesting in the Shade - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:33] <exec> 08└─Direct anal injection is so much more efficient than smoking weed because I'm a trendy soylentil!
[06:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02Left over? - 06"Iridoplasts" Found in Begonia Leaves Enhance Light Harvesting in the Shade - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:34] <exec> 08└─if the first plants (photosynthesizing cells) were purple, then begonias may just have leftover bits. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] http://www.livescience.com [livescience.com]
[06:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:3, Informative) 02At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:44] <exec> 08└─It's not a crime if the President orders it.
[06:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:09:46] <exec> 08└─And yet some people demand doctors perform abortions BECAUSE ITS THE FUCKING LAW somesuch other nonsense from majority rule to whatever ruffled shirt political fad is in fashion these days. No real point, but apparently the Nuremberg defense is a-okay if it aligns with your greater good.
[06:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:2) 02Re:Dark Energy Matters - 06Study Casts Doubt on Cosmic Acceleration and Dark Energy - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:09:58] <exec> 08└─I was downvoted to oblivion in various forums for daring suggest that dark energy was just a modern name for aether. Looks like i'm going to have to dig up those old posts, and accompany them with this more recent information, as well as a smug "I told you so" :)
[06:09:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Dark Energy Matters - 06Study Casts Doubt on Cosmic Acceleration and Dark Energy - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:09:59] <exec> 08└─Anyway, it always struck me as poor hypothesizing
[06:10:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03tisI [5866] (Score:2) 02Re:Or maybe 2/3rds of that... - 06Global Renewable Energy Capacity Overtakes Coal - 1282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:10:16] <exec> 08└─Solar isn't the only "Renewable" method to generate electricity. Wind, geothermal, ocean wave, hydroelectric to name a few. Intelligently deployed, any nation can easily generate all the electric power they need without burning coal or anything else for that matter. Many civilized nations about the...
[06:10:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Lets hope they don't build more... - 06Global Renewable Energy Capacity Overtakes Coal - 1617 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:10:17] <exec> 08└─Looking at the numbers on Wikipedia, which they admit they fudged with an artificial 'carbon penalty' on the carbon based sources doesn't look good. Even looking ahead a bit and taking the projections for 2020 it doesn't look good for ratepayers if more green energy comes online near you. Old school...
[06:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03xpda [5991] (Score:2) 02Solar Power is Not Renewable - 06Global Renewable Energy Capacity Overtakes Coal - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:10:19] <exec> 08└─The sun is emits heat, light, and various and sundry other stuff, and it is NOT renewable. While we will get quite a lot of solar energy when the sun becomes a red giant and expands to a size larger than earth's orbit (5 billion years from last Tuesday), it will eventually burn out and become a whit...
[06:11:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02This is my shocked face - 06Apple Watch Leads the Dying Smartwatch Market - 751 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:11:03] <exec> 08└─So in a generation that has mostly stopped wearing watches, because they have a phone with the time on the lock screen, they tried to get them to buy $500 - $1200 (apple) watches that are mostly just an accessory to the phone they still have to have near them. The Reality Distortion Field got a few...
[06:12:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Foreign Johnnys - 06Amundsen's Ship Raised! - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:12:50] <exec> 08└─Perhaps you refer to Roland the Thompson Gunner, another famous Norwegian, but only by way of Warren Zevon. All modern advances are either Norwegian (preferable), or Swedish (acceptable) like the Nobel prize named after a great Swede. And surely you have heard of Quisling, and the Heavy Water plant...
[06:15:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:who cares about reboots anymore? - 06Live Kernel Patches Available for Ubuntu (Gratis Up to 3 Systems) - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:15:06] <exec> 08└─If you want a quick boot, install your system on SSD. And disable stuff you don't need (that's anyway a good idea for security reasons); a service that doesn't get started doesn't add to boot time.
[06:17:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Odd comparisons - 06Refracta 8.0: Devuan on a Stick - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:17:14] <exec> 08└─The only thing PA has going for it is that it has a central volume control for each program that hooked into it. But then i wonder how many actually makes use of that even over at Windows where the idea apparently came from.
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[07:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:53] <exec> 08└─And yet some people demand doctors perform abortions BECAUSE ITS THE FUCKING LAW somesuch other nonsense from majority rule to whatever ruffled shirt political fad is in fashion these days.
[07:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:54] <exec> 08└─President’s order is not a law.
[07:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02Re:At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:56] <exec> 08└─You don't even have to go Godwin. It's an allusion to Richard Nixon, who famously said: "When the President does it, that means that it is not illegal [youtube.com]".
[07:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sarasani [3283] (Score:2) 02Re:At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:59] <exec> 08└─But the Nuremberg Trials were only possible due to the Nazis losing the war. Otherwise, we might all be reading about the London Traitors' Trials (and instead celebrate the annual Nuremberg Nazi Appreciation Parade). In such an outcome, all the reprehensible things the Nazis did would have been cons...
[07:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dark Energy Matters - 06Study Casts Doubt on Cosmic Acceleration and Dark Energy - 621 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:13] <exec> 08└─Dark energy and dark matter don't have much to do with each other except we call them both "dark". Evidence for dark matter is very solid. We don't know what it is, but it's extremely unlikely that we'll just one day say "whoops, looks like it's not real, sorry about that." Personally, I think it's...
[07:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedBear [1734] (Score:2) 02Jives better with MiHsC? - 06Study Casts Doubt on Cosmic Acceleration and Dark Energy - 1568 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:10:14] <exec> 08└─I'm so far from being a theoretical physicist or astrophysicist it's not even funny. But of course like most people I like to ponder such things. Someone else pointed out this interesting blog [blogspot.com] by an actual physics professor(?) in the UK, Mike McCulloch, who espouses the idea of someth...
[07:10:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sarasani [3283] (Score:2) 02Re:Lets hope they don't build more... - 06Global Renewable Energy Capacity Overtakes Coal - 1258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:31] <exec> 08└─When we're going to mention subsidies, we should also make a mention of the subsidies going towards all forms of "traditional" energy generation. For instance, the state of Queensland (Australia) intended to subsidise the creation of one of the world's largest coal mines (Carmichael coal mine) by of...
[07:11:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 0210% energy - actually possible - 06Prototype System Replaces Stairs and Elevators with Human Power - 882 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:11:33] <exec> 08└─I had the same thought: Not possible to reduce energy requirements. But - it look to be true. Consider: - The system is pre-loaded (on the lowest floor) with potential energy stored in the elastic ropes. - As you move upwards, you are adding your own energy input, but mostly your are using the store...
[07:12:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Something smells fishy here - 06Prototype System Replaces Stairs and Elevators with Human Power - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:12:08] <exec> 08└─have you considered the effrt involved to stay upright? in this thing you're sitting down. also, you can use hands as well as feet, and only use belly/back for useful work (not for standing up).
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[08:09:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Noodley Appendage - 06 Iceland's Pirate Party Tops Polls Ahead of National Elections - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:09:33] <exec> 08└─I am glad to see Iceland doing its part to fight global warming.
[08:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:56] <exec> 08└─only possible due to the Nazis losing the war
[08:10:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Or maybe 2/3rds of that... - 06Global Renewable Energy Capacity Overtakes Coal - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:29] <exec> 08└─Yeah, great, lets turn it into a political problem. Lots of free wind there.
[08:11:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03migz [1807] (Score:2) 02Re:The Only Feature That Matters - 06Apple Watch Leads the Dying Smartwatch Market - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:16] <exec> 08└─This. (Battery) I don't know why withings don't get more press, their battery life is orders of magnitude better then the others.
[08:11:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is my shocked face - 06Apple Watch Leads the Dying Smartwatch Market - 580 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:19] <exec> 08└─Early adopters are ok with 'kinda works' (crap battery life). The next segment is not usually cool with 'kinda works'. Watches at this point are jewelry accessories or very practical. Either they are showing off you have an 6 figure salary or you just want the time in a convenient spot. For the jewe...
[08:11:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:cool but useless - 06Prototype System Replaces Stairs and Elevators with Human Power - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:32] <exec> 08└─Oh I could think of a lot of people wanting to use it. Just tell them there is a free lunch upstairs. Because if you believe going up by one of these devices takes only 10% of the energy of stair climbing, you already believe in free lunches.
[08:11:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:10% energy - actually possible - 06Prototype System Replaces Stairs and Elevators with Human Power - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:40] <exec> 08└─Maybe if all your trips are upward, and someone else takes it back down and re-loads the spring tension for you, you might do it for 10%. But that's the logical equivalent of only going down stairs, or only sliding down a firepole, and returning to the second floor via magical thinking. Back to phys...
[08:13:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Thanks, editor! - 06Amundsen's Ship Raised! - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:13:11] <exec> 08└─All too often we do not appreciate the skill and finesse of our editors. But martyb has added a lot of informative and useful links to my original post. I, for one, welcome and appreciate our SoylentNews Editors! Hoorah!
[08:14:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Accountability - 06AT&T Is Spying on Americans for Profit, New Documents Reveal - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:05] <exec> 08└─That is what the courts currently seem to believe. Unfortunately, in an age where corporations have lots of data about you and are readily willing to share it with the government, that way of thinking makes it pretty much impossible to keep the government from obtaining quite a bit of information ab...
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[09:09:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Vote third party - 06 Iceland's Pirate Party Tops Polls Ahead of National Elections - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:09:39] <exec> 08└─As a EU national, I hope this example inspires some US citizens to not play the 2-party game, currently pushing the two worst candidates ever, and get some significant votes for a third party. With some luck they get big enough to deprive the Republocrats from a single party majority in the senate.
[09:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02You sorely underestimate... - 06 Iceland's Pirate Party Tops Polls Ahead of National Elections - 873 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:09:41] <exec> 08└─The stupidity and 'rah rah' team mentality of Americans in regards to their party politics. For a very honest example of what it is like, go watch the series 'Braindead'. It pretty succinctly and comedically explains the level of partisan and blind hatred shown by Democrats and Republicans against t...
[09:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 1160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:10:05] <exec> 08└─Jesus, Aristarchus - have you never read an alternate reality story? Sarasani is perfectly right - and history proves his statement to be right. For hundreds of years, Romans captured whoever, wherever, and shipped them to the circuses in Rome. Or, sold them off as slaves. Or, just killed them for a...
[09:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Or maybe 2/3rds of that... - 06Global Renewable Energy Capacity Overtakes Coal - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:10:37] <exec> 08└─Communes are cheap, but they need to be connected to transport. They can provide charcoal, which works the same as coal for coal fired power stations. Put the power stations along the upper and right edges of the map, and the pollution will blow away off the map. Solar power stations don't make poll...
[09:10:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score:1) 02Re:Or maybe 2/3rds of that... - 06Global Renewable Energy Capacity Overtakes Coal - 457 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:10:40] <exec> 08└─Discussing this with an expert recently, I got the information that with current technology there would have to be a four-fold net capacity of renewables (with the current mix) installed to match current fossil solutions. So first, there is no problem with day/night wind/no-wind situation. Second, t...
[09:12:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:How does it move when empty? - 06Prototype System Replaces Stairs and Elevators with Human Power - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:12:04] <exec> 08└─It isn't clear how the chair is sent back down/up when it isn't on the same floor as the next user.
[09:12:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:Video of the concept in action - 06Prototype System Replaces Stairs and Elevators with Human Power - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:12:13] <exec> 08└─those with arthritic hands, wheelchairs, .... would have serious issues with this thing
[09:12:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:Something smells fishy here - 06Prototype System Replaces Stairs and Elevators with Human Power - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:12:26] <exec> 08└─have you considered the effrt involved to stay upright? .... also, you can use hands as well as feet
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[10:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The entire Universe, dude! - 06Saturn's Mysterious Hexagon Has Changed From Blue to Gold - and No One Knows Why - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:09:36] <exec> 08└─It's like nothing we've seen on any other planet in the entire Universe Translation: nothing like that on the other seven planets in the Solar System. Other three if you only count gas giants.
[10:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Loophole!! - 06Swedes Ban Camera Spy-Drones for Anything but Crime Fighting - 662 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:09:43] <exec> 08└─The camera on the bicycle is alright - cameras mounted on drones not alright. So, get six drones to lift your bicycle into the air, and record whatever you want!! Yes, I'm just being a smartass here - TFS specifies that the bicycle mount is fine BECAUSE it goes where the owner goes. So, if the owner...
[10:09:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02Private vs commercial - 06Swedes Ban Camera Spy-Drones for Anything but Crime Fighting - 972 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:09:45] <exec> 08└─in Australia, there is a clear set of steps to get a commercial UAV licence. https://www.rpastraining.com.au [rpastraining.com.au] You still need to fly for a company that has a UAV controller licence. Private pilots can fly - but not everywhere: If you are not making any commercial gai...
[10:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02EMS alert! - 06"Iridoplasts" Found in Begonia Leaves Enhance Light Harvesting in the Shade - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:10:03] <exec> 08└─If you find someone lying in the shade, looking blue, he may not be asphyxiated. He may instead be photosynthesizing. Look carefully before beginning CPR.
[10:10:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:16] <exec> 08└─I'd have expected that "sorry, I'm not an abortion doctor" would get you out of such a rule.
[10:10:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:23] <exec> 08└─Why you got such a hard on for the buzzard? He catches more fish than you do? Or - wait - I got it - he uses you for a trolling motor!
[10:10:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:25] <exec> 08└─Well if we're going to cite international law... the United States is notorious for simply ignoring it because it believes that law only applies to "other countries".
[10:10:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Just let me get this right... - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:10:27] <exec> 08└─In June, a judge hearing one of the Playpen cases in Virginia ruled that the FBI can hack any computer in any country, if it wants.
[10:10:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03quintessence [6227] (Score:2) 02Re:Dark Energy Matters - 06Study Casts Doubt on Cosmic Acceleration and Dark Energy - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:40] <exec> 08└─That's okay. According to my mom and how often I call, my existence has always been called into question. http://science.nationalgeographic.com [nationalgeographic.com] https://en.wikipedia.org(classical_element) [wikipedia.org] Does seem reviving bad ideas fr...
[10:10:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dark Energy Matters - 06Study Casts Doubt on Cosmic Acceleration and Dark Energy - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:43] <exec> 08└─Dark energy and dark matter don't have much to do with each other
[10:12:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:Innovative but - 06Prototype System Replaces Stairs and Elevators with Human Power - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:12:10] <exec> 08└─"you won't be getting 90% reduction in effort without adding something to the human power input."
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[11:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:The entire Universe, dude! - 06Saturn's Mysterious Hexagon Has Changed From Blue to Gold - and No One Knows Why - 903 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:09:40] <exec> 08└─I had almost the same comment. It's not like we've explored hundreds of thousands of planets, up close and personal. Or millions. Or trillions. What we have are a handful of planets and other smaller rocks orbiting one star for comparison. Phhhtttt - you've really got to wonder about the credentials...
[11:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Proof - 06Saturn's Mysterious Hexagon Has Changed From Blue to Gold - and No One Knows Why - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:09:42] <exec> 08└─Global warming. Told you so. Science, muthafuckas
[11:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Questions - 06Saturn's Mysterious Hexagon Has Changed From Blue to Gold - and No One Knows Why - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:09:44] <exec> 08└─1) Where does the energy come from to to drive this storm? Is solar input enough for this? 2) Have aerodynamics scientists tried to model this storm and see how it can sustain itself in this shape? 2a) Would a "structure below the clouds" be needed for this storm to remain stable?
[11:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02wedding photography - 06Swedes Ban Camera Spy-Drones for Anything but Crime Fighting - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:09:54] <exec> 08└─In Yemen they fly drones to take photos of weddings, even though it's technically illegal.
[11:10:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Just let me get this right... - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 952 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:32] <exec> 08└─It's a really dangerous precedent, because it effectively legalises tampering with evidence. Computer forensics is really, really hard. A big part of the reason is that you must maintain an evidence chain. You can't turn on a confiscated computer without potentially allowing it to erase evidence, so...
[11:10:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Dark Energy Matters - 06Study Casts Doubt on Cosmic Acceleration and Dark Energy - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:49] <exec> 08└─Last I heard, black holes with an event horizon that small would decay quickly enough that you couldn't measure their lifespan with a stopwatch.
[11:11:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] 02Re:Silos - 06Apple Watch Leads the Dying Smartwatch Market - 1000 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:11:47] <exec> 08└─Nah it was a fad, just like tablets. Remember when everybody was talking "tablet this" and "death of the PC, hail tablets" that? Now you can't give the things away as people found them too limiting compared to their laptops and smartphones. Its the same thing here, you need a smartphone to connect t...
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[12:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02No legal basis? - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 424 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:09:45] <exec> 08└─There is surely no legal basis for demanding a repayment. You go to a recruiter, whose job it is to know what he's doing. He tells you: sign here, and you get $10k. You sign. You get $10k. Contract fulfilled. The fact that the recruiter screwed up is not your fault. Make them take you to court. If t...
[12:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No legal basis? - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:09:46] <exec> 08└─They would lose in court due to lack of high paid lawyers. I however would like this to move to the point they march on the capital like the ww1 bonus army...
[12:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Ethics of Government - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:09:48] <exec> 08└─There is not a separate system of right and wrong for the government no matter how much power it holds.
[12:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03SixGunMojo [509] (Score:1) 02Re:The entire Universe, dude! - 06Saturn's Mysterious Hexagon Has Changed From Blue to Gold - and No One Knows Why - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:09:58] <exec> 08└─Well they are technically correct, just a very small sample size. I was more struck by this line - ...Discovered almost 30 years ago, Saturn's hexagon is a six-sided structure that spans roughly 32,000 km (20,000 miles) in diameter .... Is this a no-shit-sherlock statement or are there hexagons of w...
[12:10:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02So? - 06Swedes Ban Camera Spy-Drones for Anything but Crime Fighting - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:10:10] <exec> 08└─So, does that mean that only gov gets to use drones?
[12:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:You sorely underestimate... - 06 Iceland's Pirate Party Tops Polls Ahead of National Elections - 908 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:21] <exec> 08└─okay, so we know a 'solution' to the two-party duopoly (actually two hydra-heads of the same Korporate Money Party) is twofold: 1. ensure transparent and trustworthy elections 2. enact instant runoff/ranked choice voting methods these two steps *might* give us a fighting chance to (re?)establish a f...
[12:10:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:45] <exec> 08└─heh, a non cow: do i own my own body or not ? ? ? sounds like a pretty basic question of morals, and yet it appears you are answering 'no, you don't own your own body, i, a non cow get to determine what you do with it...' alrighty then, kindly FOAD, is my DEMAND for 'our'/your body... why not, you h...
[12:12:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Screen too Small - 06Apple Watch Leads the Dying Smartwatch Market - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:12:02] <exec> 08└─Not bad. Still seems like a good idea at this caffeine level.
[12:12:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Silos - 06Apple Watch Leads the Dying Smartwatch Market - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:12:13] <exec> 08└─Nah it was a fad, just like tablets.
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[13:09:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No legal basis? - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:09:44] <exec> 08└─Same thing happens when they screw up with Social Security or similar. A few cents a month more than one is supposed to get across a longer period can lead to a nice claw back when SSN Admin realizes they screwed up.
[13:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:No legal basis? - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 564 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:09:46] <exec> 08└─You would be right except that it's the government. They make the laws, they make different laws for themselves. It's true, though, that this is jarringly out of step with our legal traditions. Normally you have to agree to borrow money for it to be a loan, but if the state gives you money then late...
[13:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:The entire Universe, dude! - 06Saturn's Mysterious Hexagon Has Changed From Blue to Gold - and No One Knows Why - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:09:58] <exec> 08└─Giant long lived storm - do any red spots come to mind? Granted, a polar hurricane is a novelty, but not giant long lived vortices.
[13:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:Proof - 06Saturn's Mysterious Hexagon Has Changed From Blue to Gold - and No One Knows Why - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:00] <exec> 08└─Clearly Saturn's Hexagon is made from the same material as that damn dress from early last year.
[13:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Questions - 06Saturn's Mysterious Hexagon Has Changed From Blue to Gold - and No One Knows Why - 423 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:03] <exec> 08└─Billions of tons of gas moving at hundreds of thousands of miles per hour through space, kept in "freefall" by the Sun pulling on it constantly (orbit is basically freefall towards an object, but falling laterally so you never actually get any closer to it but instead end up circling it almost forev...
[13:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03deadstick [5110] (Score:2) 02Re:Questions - 06Saturn's Mysterious Hexagon Has Changed From Blue to Gold - and No One Knows Why - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:05] <exec> 08└─The first thing a hexagonal structure in an atmosphere brings to my mind is a Benard cell.
[13:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02what dress is Saturn wearing - 06Saturn's Mysterious Hexagon Has Changed From Blue to Gold - and No One Knows Why - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:10:08] <exec> 08└─Is this the blue-gold dress thing again...
[13:10:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Loophole!! - 06Swedes Ban Camera Spy-Drones for Anything but Crime Fighting - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:17] <exec> 08└─Someone already solved this problem: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[13:10:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sarasani [3283] (Score:2) 02Re:You sorely underestimate... - 06 Iceland's Pirate Party Tops Polls Ahead of National Elections - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:31] <exec> 08└─establish a functioning small-dee democracy
[13:10:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:EMS alert! - 06"Iridoplasts" Found in Begonia Leaves Enhance Light Harvesting in the Shade - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:42] <exec> 08└─That reminds me of the green man from The Shadow of the Torturer [wikipedia.org], who did just that. Except he could have used more iridioplasts, because in the story the main character discovered him at a fair where he was being starved to death by being kept mostly in the shade.
[13:11:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:02] <exec> 08└─The Holocaust would have been glossed over, if not forgotten by all but the Jews.
[13:11:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sarasani [3283] (Score:2) 02Re:At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:06] <exec> 08└─One such example: the US dissin' the World Court ruling on contras [theguardian.com] back in 1986.
[13:11:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:08] <exec> 08└─No worse than Spain declaring itself a universal jurisdiction for some crimes, or the kidnapping of Eichmann.
[13:11:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:10] <exec> 08└─(Score:0, Brain Dead)
[13:11:12] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03TheRaven [270] 02Re:Just let me get this right... - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 952 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:13] <exec> 08└─It's a really dangerous precedent, because it effectively legalises tampering with evidence. Computer forensics is really, really hard. A big part of the reason is that you must maintain an evidence chain. You can't turn on a confiscated computer without potentially allowing it to erase evidence, so...
[13:11:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Just let me get this right... - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:15] <exec> 08└─The judge is talking crap and if nobody in the US can see the down side to his proclamation then they are in for an interesting time ahead.
[13:11:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dark Energy Matters - 06Study Casts Doubt on Cosmic Acceleration and Dark Energy - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:30] <exec> 08└─That was observational data, so no hypothesizing.
[13:11:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Solar Power is Not Renewable - 06Global Renewable Energy Capacity Overtakes Coal - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:57] <exec> 08└─The Sun will keep shining as a white dwarf, then as a red dwarf. When it becomes a black dwarf, a quadrillion years from now, we'll need to run off stored energy. Fortunately, a common AA battery can last a billion years.
[13:12:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Screen too Small - 06Apple Watch Leads the Dying Smartwatch Market - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:12:28] <exec> 08└─It was giving us lefties motion sickness.
[13:13:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:10% energy - actually possible - 06Prototype System Replaces Stairs and Elevators with Human Power - 1256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:10] <exec> 08└─Thanks for reading TFA... so, pre-loaded rubber bands - great... no maintenance problems there (o.k. metal springs would last a little longer, but...) This amounts to a pre-loaded counterweight system - maybe you consider that innovative, I toured a hand-built historic house from the early 1900s tha...
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[13:13:39] <exec> 08└─What about the people who aren't training? Off hand examples would include someone performing an inspection and custodians.
[13:15:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:2) 02Re:Free Market Capitalism! - 06AT&T Is Spying on Americans for Profit, New Documents Reveal - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:15:14] <exec> 08└─It's not substantially different when they sell the data to advertisers. It just gets less attention than when the great boogeyman is involved. And by the way, you're inferring an awful lot about my politics from one snarky comment.
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[13:17:06] <exec> 08└─This. I upgraded my Thinkpad to an SSD and a vanilla install of Linux Mint 17.2 (non-systemd) boots in about 10 seconds to the login screen. Plenty fast.
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[14:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:No legal basis? - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:03] <exec> 08└─There is surely no legal basis for demanding a repayment.
[14:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Ethics of Government - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:05] <exec> 08└─Yes, there is. We only wish that were true. If we want that to be true, we have to make it true.
[14:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:3, Insightful) 02A different question - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 530 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:07] <exec> 08└─Do we get to claw back the hundreds of billions of dollars that went to defense contractors of all kinds, now that we know we were lied to to get us into Iraq? Will the American taxpayers see a hefty $20K or so in their refund checks this year? If not, then I say the Pentagon and the government eats...
[14:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:A different question - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:10] <exec> 08└─Do we get to claw back the hundreds of billions of dollars that went to defense contractors of all kinds, now that we know we were lied to to get us into Iraq?
[14:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The entire Universe, dude! - 06Saturn's Mysterious Hexagon Has Changed From Blue to Gold - and No One Knows Why - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:21] <exec> 08└─but the great red spot has SEVEN SIDES
[14:10:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The entire Universe, dude! - 06Saturn's Mysterious Hexagon Has Changed From Blue to Gold - and No One Knows Why - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:23] <exec> 08└─Nothing we've ever seen? Wrong. I remember a certain dress that looked gold or blue depending on who was looking.
[14:10:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Proof - 06Saturn's Mysterious Hexagon Has Changed From Blue to Gold - and No One Knows Why - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:27] <exec> 08└─Damn, I wish I'd posted that myself! I'm colourblind, that's my excuse - I didn't even see the article last year :-P
[14:10:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03driven [6295] (Score:1) 02Blue is still there - 06Saturn's Mysterious Hexagon Has Changed From Blue to Gold - and No One Knows Why - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:33] <exec> 08└─The blue part is still there, it's just smaller. The gold rim around the blue has gotten much bigger. Nothing has changed colour from what I see.
[14:10:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So? - 06Swedes Ban Camera Spy-Drones for Anything but Crime Fighting - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:45] <exec> 08└─How about you do at least a LITTLE reading of even just the summary above, and you'll answer your own question.
[14:10:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Vote third party - 06 Iceland's Pirate Party Tops Polls Ahead of National Elections - 718 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:58] <exec> 08└─Part of the reason things are different in most European democracies is that their governments' system is different: In a parliamentary system, if neither of the largest parties have a majority, then the smaller parties get to decide who is in charge and thus have a significant influence on their go...
[14:10:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Four years is lame - 06 Iceland's Pirate Party Tops Polls Ahead of National Elections - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:59] <exec> 08└─Took less than two years for the Republican party to be taken over by the "Tea Party", or whatever the hell you want to call them, and less time than that for the basket of deplorables to take over the party again.
[14:11:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 582 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:31] <exec> 08└─You're absolutely correct, how much do we talk about Stalin's or Mao's genocides. We talk a bit more about the Khmer Rouge, but most folks have no idea about King Leopold's genocide in the Congo during the 19th century. The reason why the Nazis got prosecuted was primarily because without the Nazi g...
[14:11:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:38] <exec> 08└─To be fair, the Allies did a fair amount of internationally illegal stuff during the war, too. Just not, y'know, concentration camps and purges and stuff.
[14:11:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Just let me get this right... - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:42] <exec> 08└─once you make it legal for the police to plant evidence you've basically said goodbye to the rule of law
[14:12:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Re:Jives better with MiHsC? - 06Study Casts Doubt on Cosmic Acceleration and Dark Energy - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:03] <exec> 08└─objects that come very close to achieving zero inertia
[14:12:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Or maybe 2/3rds of that... - 06Global Renewable Energy Capacity Overtakes Coal - 1275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:23] <exec> 08└─Germany is getting about 1/3 of its electricity from renewables now. They're at a much higher latitude than the US, and their insolation is much worse. They have seasons, including winter, they have mountains, and I think we can agree that they're a modern, industrialized country with industries tha...
[14:12:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sarasani [3283] (Score:2) 02Re:Solar Power is Not Renewable - 06Global Renewable Energy Capacity Overtakes Coal - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:28] <exec> 08└─I should hope that by that time, we'll have figured out a way to simply plug our phones into a black hole.
[14:13:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Silos - 06Apple Watch Leads the Dying Smartwatch Market - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:10] <exec> 08└─Tablets have found some niche use as media devices. My kids use them to watch shows on the road. Others for reading on the subway or during slow times in the office.
[14:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03gidds [589] (Score:2) 02Re: Cool but useless - 06Prototype System Replaces Stairs and Elevators with Human Power - 884 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:35] <exec> 08└─I'd like to see someone use it to bring a cup of tea (or coffee, whatever's your poison) up/downstairs. (Let alone a trayful. Or anything else, for that matter. I guess you could fit some sort of storage for non-fragile items, but there doesn't seem to be room, and you'd have real trouble with...
[14:14:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Gary Johnson supports the mergers - 06Big Tech-Media Mergers Raise Fresh Privacy Concerns - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:53] <exec> 08└─Still a better option than a criminal or a buffoon, both of whom likely support the merger as well.
[14:15:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Raised is a bit of a mis-nomer - 06Amundsen's Ship Raised! - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:15] <exec> 08└─Refloated seems more appropriate.
[14:16:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How will they explode - 06Samsung Announces 8 GB DRAM Package for Mobile Devices - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:16:42] <exec> 08└─"Will it be a single in-line explosion, or a parallel detonation ?" No, it's a faster phone so it's just going to blow up faster.
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[15:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03FunkyLich [4689] (Score:2) 02Is this part of tech bubble 2.0 ? - 06Google's "Jamboard" Takes on the Giant Touchscreen Workplace Niche - 556 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:50] <exec> 08└─Because one so much needs a blackboard/whiteboard/papersheetboard which instead is a giant touchscreen monitor. One didn't know how much was missing until this product came along, making possible collaboration through the cloud - which is the new buzzword in fashion and the solution* to all needs. *...
[15:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:No legal basis? - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:03] <exec> 08└─The correct thing to do here is to invent a time machine and go back and renegotiate the deal. Since we don't have time machines, perhaps we could just pay the money and then claw it back from the defense contractors that are so fond of wasting money on things like those huge bundles of shrink wrapp...
[15:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:Ethics of Government - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:06] <exec> 08└─"There is not a separate system of right and wrong for the government no matter how much power it holds." No, but we seem to be living in a post-ethical society.
[15:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ethics of Government - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:09] <exec> 08└─That hillary is a candidate and not a prisoner disagrees with your statement.
[15:10:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02A different question - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 530 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:11] <exec> 08└─Do we get to claw back the hundreds of billions of dollars that went to defense contractors of all kinds, now that we know we were lied to to get us into Iraq? Will the American taxpayers see a hefty $20K or so in their refund checks this year? If not, then I say the Pentagon and the government eats...
[15:10:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A different question - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 3 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:14] <exec> 08└─wat
[15:10:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Fuck congress - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 1067 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:17] <exec> 08└─Indeed. Ultimately, the money will be returned in all cases, it's just a question of how much it costs. I'm not personally a fan of all the soldier worship that goes on, but this is absolutely ridiculous. As long as the contracts they signed granted them the money they were paid, they should be allo...
[15:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:Questions - 06Saturn's Mysterious Hexagon Has Changed From Blue to Gold - and No One Knows Why - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:36] <exec> 08└─"The first thing a hexagonal structure in an atmosphere brings to my mind is a Benard cell." I thought the same thing, but I'm not sure how to make sense of that. Why would the north pole of Saturn be a hot spot? One would expect the opposite.
[15:10:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:what dress is Saturn wearing - 06Saturn's Mysterious Hexagon Has Changed From Blue to Gold - and No One Knows Why - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:39] <exec> 08└─Tomorrow news: Operator at Nasa HQ forgot to adjust the WB. But in fact it changes color, it's is an ad for aliens whose metabolism and neuroprocessing speed is 1/10000th of ours. In 5234 AD the "Skip this ad" button will appear.
[15:10:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Camera Calibration - 06Saturn's Mysterious Hexagon Has Changed From Blue to Gold - and No One Knows Why - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:42] <exec> 08└─How do they calibrate the camera? This looks like some kind of white balancing issue or a tinted film formed on the sensor or something.
[15:10:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02My latest invention - 06Swedes Ban Camera Spy-Drones for Anything but Crime Fighting - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:55] <exec> 08└─The GoPro-Chute-Cannon. A GoPro (other brands are available), with a parachute, shot out of an air-cannon. Still Legal - amiright?
[15:10:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03tisI [5866] (Score:2) 02Nice! - 06Swedes Ban Camera Spy-Drones for Anything but Crime Fighting - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:56] <exec> 08└─When can we have one of those laws here in the US? Would cut way back on the pervert peeping tom issue we currently have with our current crop of drone owners.
[15:11:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:Vote third party - 06 Iceland's Pirate Party Tops Polls Ahead of National Elections - 1123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:11] <exec> 08└─100% agreed. And that what you said also happens in reality is proved today 27 Oct. in this article about the Icies: Opposition parties find common ground [icelandtourist.is] In fact, politics is sometimes described as the art to make compromises. Not the art to cage-fight each other to death. Also,...
[15:11:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Vote third party - 06 Iceland's Pirate Party Tops Polls Ahead of National Elections - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:12] <exec> 08└─However, the Pirate Party is just the "Fuck You" vote to the system. However, in the US, the "Fuck You" vote is actually Trump. I know that Moore is often incoherent, but I think he nails it here: https://www.youtube.com (thanks crutchy for posting that on the IRC channel).
[15:11:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02And other European Pirate Parties? - 06 Iceland's Pirate Party Tops Polls Ahead of National Elections - 460 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:11:15] <exec> 08└─Nice to see the Icelandic Pirates so successful. What about the other European Pirate Parties? How is the Swedish party doing? The movement started there. In Germany though, the Pirate Party has been mired with controversy, from a public debate when it was found out that a party leader was on the do...
[15:11:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 788 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:52] <exec> 08└─> it is the considered judgment of humanity as a whole, over all Even if I probably agree 100% on the rights attributed by constitutions and international courts, I still have to challenge this line. When did you vote for that judgment? A bunch of people wrote documents talking about inherent rights...
[15:11:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:55] <exec> 08└─The US absolutely did have concentration camps, it's just that we called them internment camps. That and the fact that they weren't adjacent to death camps. It's rather unfortunate, that we've chosen to roll the notion of a death camp into the notion of a concentration camp when they're not really t...
[15:12:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03DonkeyChan [5551] (Score:2) 02Revictimizaition - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:12:01] <exec> 08└─FBI - "Every time a picture of pedophilia is shared that child is revictimized." FBI - We shared over a million pictures to catch 100 (84) non producers.
[15:12:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Solar Power is Not Renewable - 06Global Renewable Energy Capacity Overtakes Coal - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:33] <exec> 08└─Plugging our phones into a black hole is easy - getting them back out intact is somewhat trickier.
[15:13:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03gauauu [3693] (Score:1) 02Re:watch? - 06Apple Watch Leads the Dying Smartwatch Market - 445 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:06] <exec> 08└─I wear a match. Analogue, date, day, self, winding. I have a "smart" phone. Everything the smart watch can do, my phone can do, usually better. I don't want to wear two watches. I don't think I am the target market. I have seen many people who are wearing there watches, and fitbits, as some form of...
[15:13:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02Re:Yeah ok - 06Prototype System Replaces Stairs and Elevators with Human Power - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:55] <exec> 08└─Stranger in a Strange Land also had tube elevator things, but they were operated by martian magic.
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[15:13:58] <exec> 08└─I'd use it, but I'll also think nothing of walking 10 floors to visit my parents.
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[16:09:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:3, Insightful) 02How about just solving poor design? - 06A Complete Waste of Energy - 2550 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:09:57] <exec> 08└─The technology sounds potentially interesting, but is it really necessary to solve most cases where people WANT to limit "vampire" power usage? I'm pretty sure 99% of these devices could get rid of the "vampire" power simply by having a physical switch to turn them off (or, in other cases, designing...
[16:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Memristor? - 06A Complete Waste of Energy - 519 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:09:59] <exec> 08└─Tabib-Azar and his team have devised a new kind of switch for electronic circuits that uses solid electrolytes such as copper sulfide to literally grow a wire between two electrodes when an electrical current passes through them, turning the switch on. When you reverse the polarity of the electrical...
[16:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Vampire current is a non-problem. - 06A Complete Waste of Energy - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:01] <exec> 08└─The United States has ~325 million people, so $19 billion anually represents about $60 per person per year. So if you throw away all your current electronic products and replace them with new products, you can expect to save Up To™ a whole $60 in just one year! What savings!
[16:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Vampire current is a non-problem. - 06A Complete Waste of Energy - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:03] <exec> 08└─WAIT, did you remember to account for the Amish in that calculation, if not it may be as high as $61/year!
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[16:10:05] <exec> 08└─Or get adapters with a switch and, since we are at it, a fuse. I once was going to DJ at a fair (Plastikman FTWTF), I hooked up the adapter, had the fuse literally go bang. If there wasn't the bang, I would have hooked up the SL 1210s next...
[16:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Is this part of tech bubble 2.0 ? - 06Google's "Jamboard" Takes on the Giant Touchscreen Workplace Niche - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:15] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but "nice little animations that bring small things like erasing to life, as you watch the text flake and fall off the display" brings back memories of a DOS virus from the early 90s, which makes an old fogie like me feel all fuzzy inside.
[16:10:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:No legal basis? - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:29] <exec> 08└─and then claw it back from the defense contractors that are so fond of wasting money on things like those huge bundles of shrink wrapped cash that go missing.
[16:10:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fuck congress - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 854 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:39] <exec> 08└─The money here will not be repaid, largely due to the soldier worship you mentioned, and also that it is an election year. One thing you and many others here need to realize is that all the cases where people owe are the same. They are separate records in a database, or back in the day, separate fil...
[16:10:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Why waive it? - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 653 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:41] <exec> 08└─My bank puts an extra $1,000 in my account on their error..... When the error is discovered, I am responsible for the repayment of that $1000 from my account. Purchase an item with a $1,000 rebate written into the terms of the contract, the seller cuts a $10,000 rebate check to me. When discovered,...
[16:10:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Why waive it? - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:43] <exec> 08└─You're wrong on all accounts. You didn't describe what actually happened. My bank puts an extra $1,000 in my account on their error..... When the error is discovered, I am responsible for the repayment of that $1000 from my account.
[16:10:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Bait-and-switch DoD edition - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 409 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:45] <exec> 08└─Back in the Iraq war days, we were so short of boots on the ground that even draft was mentioned. We ended up sending out our reserve units, including National Guards many of whom never expected to serve on foreign soil, on multiple deployments. Monetary bonuses were a major inducement tactic to ma...
[16:10:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:The entire Universe, dude! - 06Saturn's Mysterious Hexagon Has Changed From Blue to Gold - and No One Knows Why - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:55] <exec> 08└─Not everyone knows what a hexagon is.
[16:11:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Decades-old storm rages for decades! News at 11. - 06Saturn's Mysterious Hexagon Has Changed From Blue to Gold - and No One Knows Why - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:11] <exec> 08└─Scientists estimate that this storm has been raging for decades ...
[16:11:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03robpow [1575] (Score:1) 02Re:Private vs commercial - 06Swedes Ban Camera Spy-Drones for Anything but Crime Fighting - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:21] <exec> 08└─This ruling however is on the filming from a drone, not on flying it.
[16:11:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:wedding photography - 06Swedes Ban Camera Spy-Drones for Anything but Crime Fighting - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:24] <exec> 08└─The U.S. also flies drones to bomb weddings, even though it's technically a war crime.
[16:11:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You sorely underestimate... - 06 Iceland's Pirate Party Tops Polls Ahead of National Elections - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:40] <exec> 08└─Your ideas are interesting and insightful, and I would like to learn more. 1. ensure transparent and trustworthy elections
[16:11:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Vote third party - 06 Iceland's Pirate Party Tops Polls Ahead of National Elections - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:44] <exec> 08└─So why are some of the more extreme right-wing governments around these days are the ones that have come out of the parliamentary systems? Is that more representative of the people, or is that something inherent in the system?
[16:11:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Left over? - 06"Iridoplasts" Found in Begonia Leaves Enhance Light Harvesting in the Shade - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:56] <exec> 08└─Indeed. And the fact that begonias have leaves in a wide range of colours implies that this might simply be a significant green jelly bean. (xkcd#882)
[16:12:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward 1ff6 (Score:0) 02Re:At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:16] <exec> 08└─You do know that abortion was illegal in nazi germany don't you. It's harder to conquer the world without lots of cannon fodder.
[16:12:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:23] <exec> 08└─The Holocaust would have been glossed over, if not forgotten by all but the Jews.
[16:12:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:29] <exec> 08└─Ahh yes, the "But other people do it too!" defense.
[16:12:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dark Energy Matters - 06Study Casts Doubt on Cosmic Acceleration and Dark Energy - 459 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:56] <exec> 08└─Did you read GP's statement that dark energy and dark matter have little to do with each other before writing about this "dark matter, dark energy view of the world?" Also, if expansion is not accelerating, then why should dark matter have any bearing on this acceleration that we just supposed is no...
[16:12:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03RedBear [1734] 02Jives better with MiHsC? - 06Study Casts Doubt on Cosmic Acceleration and Dark Energy - 1568 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:12:58] <exec> 08└─I'm so far from being a theoretical physicist or astrophysicist it's not even funny. But of course like most people I like to ponder such things. Someone else pointed out this interesting blog [blogspot.com] by an actual physics professor(?) in the UK, Mike McCulloch, who espouses the idea of someth...
[16:15:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Video of the concept in action - 06Prototype System Replaces Stairs and Elevators with Human Power - 434 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:06] <exec> 08└─I have a solution for an emergency escape: a spiral chute, like you see at water parks. People just jump in, one at a time, and slide out of the building at high speed. Perhaps have it automatically activate a big airbag at the bottom for people to land on. (It needs to be a spiral to keep the speed...
[16:15:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:what video game company ? - 06Big Tech-Media Mergers Raise Fresh Privacy Concerns - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:59] <exec> 08└─reactionary comment mod == "-1 Douchebag"
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[17:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02To be fair - 06Beijing Threatens Legal Action Over Webcam Claims - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:47] <exec> 08└─American-made shitty webcams also have garbage security.
[17:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03DonkeyChan [5551] (Score:2) 02Change your password! - 06Beijing Threatens Legal Action Over Webcam Claims - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:48] <exec> 08└─These things don't even have passwords and the way they're compromised has to do with the lack of security in their firmware. Using hardcoded passwords (you know, unchangeable) Open obfuscated SSH ports
[17:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:2) 02Yeah right - 06Beijing Threatens Legal Action Over Webcam Claims - 401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:51] <exec> 08└─All I can say is the first time I logged into the shitty router my ISP gave me before I replaced it with my own it forced me to set a new password other than the default before I could do anything else. So the chinese can sell that crock of shit to someone who is buying it and I don't think that wil...
[17:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02What do we actually know? - 06Beijing Threatens Legal Action Over Webcam Claims - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:53] <exec> 08└─You will like Chinese products, or else.
[17:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I'll say it - 06Beijing Threatens Legal Action Over Webcam Claims - 1088 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:55] <exec> 08└─INTENTIONAL! Its a brilliant scheme, get users around the world to pay for and maintain a massive botnet. Please don't pull out Hanlon's razor, at this point in time we should all realize that there are huge efforts being made across the world to spy on citizens and undermine political opposition. O...
[17:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Sue me - 06Beijing Threatens Legal Action Over Webcam Claims - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:57] <exec> 08└─Fuck you and your cheap good-for-nothing Chinese junks. I am AC, the Chicom destroyer.
[17:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:How about just solving poor design? - 06A Complete Waste of Energy - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:08] <exec> 08└─The old-school policy for appliances was to unplug them when on in use. (Not sure of the exact reason, but may have had to do with more unreliable cords.) I wonder if that will come back in fashion. I think it is unlikely, because nobody likes to crawl through a rats' nest of cables to unplug someth...
[17:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How about just solving poor design? - 06A Complete Waste of Energy - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:10] <exec> 08└─I'm guessing there are a variety of scenarios that all lead to "electrical fire". Bad circuit design, flaw in wiring insulation, appliances that can't handle a power surge, etc.
[17:10:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Vampire current is a non-problem. - 06A Complete Waste of Energy - 468 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:17] <exec> 08└─The number is quite a bit higher than I expected. It works out at $165/year/household. A rough rule of thumb is that one Watt for something that's always on costs about $/year. I find it a bit hard to believe that most households have 165W of this stuff. Most appliances consume 2-10W in standby, so...
[17:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Vampire current is a non-problem. - 06A Complete Waste of Energy - 1177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:19] <exec> 08└─I'm not worried about the 1W stuff. Those are really insignificant in the big picture your heating and cooling stuff is where you should look for your savings first (don't overdo the cooling/heating, turn off your cooling/heating when nobody is around). HOWEVER on the topic of always on appliances,...
[17:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Vampire current is a non-problem. - 06A Complete Waste of Energy - 744 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:21] <exec> 08└─Bought a batch of little switches that plug in and have one outlet. Power viper problem solved for wall warts and others. Some are plain, like this, http://www.adrprovita.com [adrprovita.com] Others have a light for devices that are not so obviously on or off, these are low pr...
[17:10:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Huge variance - 06A Complete Waste of Energy - 967 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:23] <exec> 08└─The odd thing is: there is a huge variance in the appliance. We have a couple of lasert printers in our home office: one consumes almost nothing in sleep mode (hard to measure, probably 1-2 watts. The other consumes 50 watts (!) in sleep mode - we try to remember to turn that one off. Stupid design?...
[17:10:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Huge variance - 06A Complete Waste of Energy - 431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:26] <exec> 08└─They thought I was nuts at the cable tv office, but I had them pull out all the different types of digital cable boxes they had. There were 3 or 4 different brands/models that all did the same thing. The power ratings on the sticker varied from something like 20 watts up to 70 watts. Who knows if th...
[17:10:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Raise the bar. Regulate better power supplies. - 06A Complete Waste of Energy - 1352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:28] <exec> 08└─TLDR: If you don't force the supply factories to use better designs and components through regulation, they'll never compete on quality and prices won't go down for higher efficiency supplies. When it comes to logic components, there are plenty of incentives for fabs and consumers to bring TDP down...
[17:10:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is this part of tech bubble 2.0 ? - 06Google's "Jamboard" Takes on the Giant Touchscreen Workplace Niche - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:38] <exec> 08└─I'm sure there are some niche markets for this, but the majority of the usage will probably be for video conferencing and a large screen for meeting agendas. Basically nothing that can't be done with a big screen and a wireless point/click device such as a wii remote.
[17:10:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Internet Connected - 06Google's "Jamboard" Takes on the Giant Touchscreen Workplace Niche - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:40] <exec> 08└─And this whiteboard will need to be connected to the internet for what exactly? (because, trust me, it will need to be)
[17:10:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03tfried [5534] (Score:2) 02Re:No legal basis? - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 759 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:55] <exec> 08└─Apparently some applied for the bonus knowing that they were not entitled to it, but also knowing that checking was lousy (AFAIU several of those responsible for deliberately lousy checking went to jail for that). Or, quoting from the second article linked: "However, many of the soldiers who receiv...
[17:10:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Ethics of Government - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:59] <exec> 08└─Actually, there isn't. Right and wrong are about morals and ethics. If the government plays by different rules, that just makes it willfully unethical. Had OP said lawful and unlawful instead, your statement would be correct. We have to press our government to align lawful and unlawful with right an...
[17:11:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:A different question - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:06] <exec> 08└─In theory, it could be declared an odious debt since it benefited the leaders who lied and not the tax payers footing the bill. But that would come out of George W. Bush's personal accounts, not the defense contractors unless they can be shown to have willingly participated in the fraud. Could be ba...
[17:11:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Why waive it? - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 409 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:13] <exec> 08└─None of those things happened. I'll correct one as an example. You are offered $50k with a $5k signing bonus. You accept and sign on the dotted line and are cut a check for $55k. You work your full term in good faith and move on. Ten years later, they come to you and say "on second thought, we only...
[17:11:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Type44Q [4347] (Score:1) 02Re:Why waive it? - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:15] <exec> 08└─Is it different, going through life knowing you're a piece-of-shit shill?
[17:11:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03JeanCroix [573] (Score:2) 02Re:The entire Universe, dude! - 06Saturn's Mysterious Hexagon Has Changed From Blue to Gold - and No One Knows Why - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:29] <exec> 08└─Also, is it really correctly referred to as a "structure?" Wouldn't "formation" be a better term here?
[17:12:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You sorely underestimate... - 06 Iceland's Pirate Party Tops Polls Ahead of National Elections - 787 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:15] <exec> 08└─I'll tackle the last two. Free Media: Easy fix, government run video service. Political messages and advertisements are ONLY allowed on the gov site or their own personal sites. No paying for ads elsewhere. Such a service would not cost that much overall, and the infrastructure could also support ot...
[17:12:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Vote third party - 06 Iceland's Pirate Party Tops Polls Ahead of National Elections - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:20] <exec> 08└─So why are some of the more extreme right-wing governments around these days are the ones that have come out of the parliamentary systems? Is that more representative of the people, or is that something inherent in the system?
[17:13:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:Revictimizaition - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:13] <exec> 08└─Don't worry, the FBI is just thinking of the children.
[17:16:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:Content producers vs distributors - 06Big Tech-Media Mergers Raise Fresh Privacy Concerns - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:14] <exec> 08└─Why would the lack of advertisements prevent the technical event test? The first article I found about it say it describes the number of artificial transitions per minute. Further, that the popularity of a show can be predicted by the number of transitions per minute.
[17:16:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re: Technical event test - 06Big Tech-Media Mergers Raise Fresh Privacy Concerns - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:15] <exec> 08└─Actually, the technical event test explains a novel format I hate: 3 threads with cliff-hangers at the end of every chapter.
[17:16:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Increase in your bill - 06Big Tech-Media Mergers Raise Fresh Privacy Concerns - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:16:26] <exec> 08└─Expect an increase in your bill any day now: "You have the right to request that we don't sell your data, but that will cause a 300% rise in your internet bill because of ... reasons" It's like Nationwide's (or is it Allstate?) dongle that monitors your driving habits 24/7/365. They tell you that yo...
[17:18:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Frustrating - 06Seagate Launches 5 TB 2.5" HDDs and 2 TB SMR SSHDs - 580 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:18:21] <exec> 08└─Or you have no clue about the growth of storage requirements and the hoarding people do. My first 1G drive seemed huge, but barely held a CD's worth of data. My first 40G drive was enormous, but only fit so many games after a while, and not too many HD videos. My current 300G drives are gigantic, bu...
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[18:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Change your password! - 06Beijing Threatens Legal Action Over Webcam Claims - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:53] <exec> 08└─Using hardcoded passwords (you know, unchangeable)
[18:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:What do we actually know? - 06Beijing Threatens Legal Action Over Webcam Claims - 2073 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:56] <exec> 08└─You're correct about the widespread nature of the problem. Not just IoT or consumer devices, but industrial ones too. A major manufacturer of industrial wireless (gigabit wireless links for 20+ miles that are near $10k per pair) completely boned their security for the web interface. With the exploit...
[18:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02They should learn from the master - 06Beijing Threatens Legal Action Over Webcam Claims - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:01] <exec> 08└─The master of the Reality Distortion Field never threatened to sue individual customers. Instead, he claimed those having problems were "holding it wrong". Watch and learn.
[18:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:How about just solving poor design? - 06A Complete Waste of Energy - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:12] <exec> 08└─Reasons I've heard from my parents for unplugging are : significant power drain even when off (leaky AC transformers), and lightning safety (a lightning strike within a not-so-short distance could start a fire).
[18:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:How about just solving poor design? - 06A Complete Waste of Energy - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:14] <exec> 08└─I already have one power strip that I can use a remote to turn off the outlets. I've considered getting more for my entertainment center and such, but I haven't bothered yet because of cost. Note to self: use the Kill-a-Watt on that power strip to test power consumption in the "off" state. Just how...
[18:10:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Memristor? - 06A Complete Waste of Energy - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:17] <exec> 08└─It's just a fancy relay. I bet it doesn't even give you that satisfying click...
[18:10:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Convenience? Cost? - 06A Complete Waste of Energy - 2577 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:28] <exec> 08└─The odd thing is: there is a huge variance in the appliance. We have a couple of lasert printers in our home office: one consumes almost nothing in sleep mode (hard to measure, probably 1-2 watts. The other consumes 50 watts (!) in sleep mode - we try to remember to turn that one off. Stupid design?...
[18:10:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:Huge variance - 06A Complete Waste of Energy - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:30] <exec> 08└─I've got a Uverse DVR, it draws the same power turned off as it does turned on. This is a hugely stupid design decision.
[18:10:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Huge variance - 06A Complete Waste of Energy - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:32] <exec> 08└─The US consumer reuires their TV to turn on right now. The broadcasters agree that it'd be a bad idea if the consumers changed their mind about watching TV just because it took an extra 20 seconds to turn on, and the phone beeped with yet another insipid tweet. So we waste power, because we need to...
[18:10:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Is this part of tech bubble 2.0 ? - 06Google's "Jamboard" Takes on the Giant Touchscreen Workplace Niche - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:44] <exec> 08└─We just got a big 4k 65" screen for the conf room. At under $1k installed, that leaves a lot of budget for dry-erase boards, pens and uploading pictures compared to this. We might justify one of these when the price drops to under a thousand bucks, because of the amount of drawing and searching we d...
[18:10:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Internet Connected - 06Google's "Jamboard" Takes on the Giant Touchscreen Workplace Niche - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:46] <exec> 08└─Teleconferencing, collaboration, web browsing, Google Docs/storage. Sure, you don't like it, but that was a dumb question.
[18:10:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03fubari [4551] (Score:2) 02Re:Internet Connected - 06Google's "Jamboard" Takes on the Giant Touchscreen Workplace Niche - 398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:48] <exec> 08└─r.e. connected to the internet for what? How about for denial of service attacks? Weak Device Security Turns IoT Into Powerful Weapon in DDoS Attacks [eweek.com] Ok, seriously now :-) I would love to have a virtual whiteboard to work with people (face to face, and remote). $6,000 seems just bit expe...
[18:11:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why waive it? - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:19] <exec> 08└─Your example is much much worse. "They" didn't change their minds years later and decided ex post facto to reduce the original signing bonus, "they" realized years later that they paid th ff6 em more than they were supposed to, just as the AC's examples were about.
[18:11:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why waive it? - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:21] <exec> 08└─Is it any worse than going through life as a pompous piece of shit who decides where the lines of morality lie for everyone? (Not to mention setting his morality line wherever his knee-jerk reaction takes him at the time regardless of circumstances).
[18:12:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You sorely underestimate... - 06 Iceland's Pirate Party Tops Polls Ahead of National Elections - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:22] <exec> 08└─2. enact instant runoff/ranked choice voting methods
[18:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03fubari [4551] (Score:2) 02actually Awesome Re:Dark Energy Matters - 06Study Casts Doubt on Cosmic Acceleration and Dark Energy - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:35] <exec> 08└─Does seem reviving bad ideas from the past to explain though.
[18:14:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03fubari [4551] (Score:2) 02Penny-wise, pound foolish. Re:Lets hope they don't - 06Global Renewable Energy Capacity Overtakes Coal - 992 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:06] <exec> 08└─I don't care so much about the cost difference. Lots of reasons to stop burning coal & oil; we should just use them for plastics - setting them on fire is short sighted. Clean air is beautiful (literally and health-wise), so I'll pay more for that. And if even just half the Global Warming consequenc...
[18:14:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Solar Power is Not Renewable - 06Global Renewable Energy Capacity Overtakes Coal - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:12] <exec> 08└─Yes, this is also why global warming doesn't matter. The sentient cockroaches that arise out of the smoldering remains of human civilization will all get supernova-ed in the end, anyway, so why bother.
[18:16:18] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:I need to RTFA, I guess - 06New Tech Could Let Devices Function for Years Without a Battery - 938 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:18] <exec> 08└─Yep, as usual, the only way to make any sense of it is to ignore what the journalists say, and read the paper. Abstract The quest for low power becomes highly compelling in newly emerging application areas related to wearable devices in the Internet of Things. Here, we report on a Schottky-barrier...
[18:16:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03http [1920] (Score:2) 02Re:Content producers vs distributors - 06Big Tech-Media Mergers Raise Fresh Privacy Concerns - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:41] <exec> 08└─Because it needs to be compared to the number of technical events in the accompanying commercials. Mander posited that the rate found in a show will rarely exceed (and infrequently approach) the rate found in its sponsoring commercials, lest the consumer remember the wrong thing.
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[19:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Republican counterproposal - 06Oregon Weighs Whether All Kids Should Get Outdoor Education - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:09:43] <exec> 08└─Play the Discovery Channel once in a while on a 32" TV in school cafeterias.
[19:09:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Republican counterproposal - 06Oregon Weighs Whether All Kids Should Get Outdoor Education - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:44] <exec> 08└─Just the commercials, though. Don't want them accidentally seeing a special on global warming that doesn't attribute it to ancient aliens.
[19:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Republican counterproposal - 06Oregon Weighs Whether All Kids Should Get Outdoor Education - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:46] <exec> 08└─I was going to object that it should be Fox News, but I'm sure we can try to secure a campaign donation from the local Christian broadcaster.
[19:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03scruffybeard [533] (Score:2) 02Great idea but poor plan - 06Oregon Weighs Whether All Kids Should Get Outdoor Education - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:09:48] <exec> 08└─I like the idea of sending everyone to camp, but I don't like the idea of creating dedicated funding sources like this. In the end you are robbing Peter to pay Paul. This forces the legislature to take money from one program and give it to another, and since it is a ballot measure, it can only be un...
[19:09:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:To be fair - 06Beijing Threatens Legal Action Over Webcam Claims - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:58] <exec> 08└─American-made shitty webcams are chinese shitty webcams where the camera and its stand have been clipped together, sorry, I mean "assembled" in the US.
[19:09:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:To be fair - 06Beijing Threatens Legal Action Over Webcam Claims - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:00] <exec> 08└─Hey, that's not fair, sometimes they're Bangladeshi webcams clipped together in the US. And sometimes they're Vietnamese!
[19:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:To be fair - 06Beijing Threatens Legal Action Over Webcam Claims - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:02] <exec> 08└─I used to support the designers at Arecont Vision, in Glendale CA. All their cameras are still manufactured and assembled in the building (for how long?). Good people as engineers don't mean no security holes, but if you want to buy "made in USA", they might be your last option. Not dirt cheap, but...
[19:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Change your password! - 06Beijing Threatens Legal Action Over Webcam Claims - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:06] <exec> 08└─Um, we're talking China here. Yes it's possible that said backdoors where ordered there by a state party, but it certainly wasn't Comey. Don't give him or wild conspiracies any more credit than due.
[19:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Change your password! - 06Beijing Threatens Legal Action Over Webcam Claims - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:09] <exec> 08└─Small misunderstanding here i think. Comey has said he wants backdoors: https://www.theguardian.com [theguardian.com] AC's point is that this is what happens when there is a backdoor.
[19:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Vampire current is a non-problem. - 06A Complete Waste of Energy - 508 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:36] <exec> 08└─Modern dryer and washers have standby so the light turns on when you open the door Stoves and microwaves all stay on to display clocks and wait for user input Some toasters now have soft power buttons with LED's Coffee makers with timers phone chargers (though most in standby are in the mW-uW range)...
[19:10:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Internet Connected - 06Google's "Jamboard" Takes on the Giant Touchscreen Workplace Niche - 605 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:57] <exec> 08└─It is cheaper than Microsoft's initial pricing, which was $9,000 for a 55-inch 1080p screen, and $22,000 for an 84-inch 2160p screen. By contrast, Google's is "under $6,000" for a 55-inch 2160p screen. It's a price that a lot of businesses and conference rooms could justify (or waste money on). The...
[19:10:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Spyboard - 06Google's "Jamboard" Takes on the Giant Touchscreen Workplace Niche - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:59] <exec> 08└─Keep fondling it
[19:11:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:A different question - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:24] <exec> 08└─But the defence contractors were found guilty of fraud, which is a type of lie. As far as I know GPPer has not been found guilty of same - do you know differently?
[19:11:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:A different question - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:26] <exec> 08└─But the defence contractors were found guilty of fraud, which is a type of lie.
[19:11:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:3, Insightful) 02"...White House Resists." ? - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:38] <exec> 08└─Where did this comment come from? There is nothing in any of the FAs, nor the summery that says the POTUS is resisting efforts to clear up the situation.
[19:11:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:The entire Universe, dude! - 06Saturn's Mysterious Hexagon Has Changed From Blue to Gold - and No One Knows Why - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:51] <exec> 08└─I know they keep cutting budgets, but that's an "are you smarter than a first grader" question...
[19:11:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:The entire Universe, dude! - 06Saturn's Mysterious Hexagon Has Changed From Blue to Gold - and No One Knows Why - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:52] <exec> 08└─People who don't use the knowledge don't always remain smarter than a first grader at least for this simple sort of question.
[19:12:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Powering up - 06Saturn's Mysterious Hexagon Has Changed From Blue to Gold - and No One Knows Why - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:12:11] <exec> 08└─It is just powering up, move on, nothing to see.
[19:12:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nice! - 06Swedes Ban Camera Spy-Drones for Anything but Crime Fighting - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:28] <exec> 08└─oh yeah, the spy threat is the people not the government, police, etc. give me a break. i hope you're being sarcastic.
[19:12:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Four years is lame - 06 Iceland's Pirate Party Tops Polls Ahead of National Elections - 633 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:50] <exec> 08└─No, it took 50-some-odd years. The GOP made a conscious decision to become the party of people who spell "black folks" with two Gs in it...well, maybe not "spell" given who we're talking about here, but you get the idea. Drumpf here differs from the rest of the GOP mainly in that he says in plain sp...
[19:13:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 947 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:32] <exec> 08└─Universal jurisdiction is part of international law. If a crime against humanity occurs, every nation has the right to intervene and prosecute. The ICC is meant to alle 2000 viate the need to create a new tribunal every time there is some new nastiness, such as was done with the Balkan conflict, and...
[19:14:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Or maybe 2/3rds of that... - 06Global Renewable Energy Capacity Overtakes Coal - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:27] <exec> 08└─Yep, we could free Billions to spend on more weapons to still protect those countries we currently get oil from. Because Congress logic.
[19:15:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] 02Re:Innovative but - 06Prototype System Replaces Stairs and Elevators with Human Power - 416 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:45] <exec> 08└─Less than 10% of the energy required to climb stairs is also a specious argument... where is the energy coming from to lift a 150kg post-fast-food humanoid up several stories in a building? If the competition is elevators, then, sure, this thing could be lighter and move less excess mass, but for hu...
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[20:09:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Republican counterproposal - 06Oregon Weighs Whether All Kids Should Get Outdoor Education - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:59] <exec> 08└─I would point out that the Democrats are the ones opposing this.
[20:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02NOTHING GOOD - 06Oregon Weighs Whether All Kids Should Get Outdoor Education - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:01] <exec> 08└─Nothing good EVER happened OUT OF DOORS!
[20:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Weigh - 06Oregon Weighs Whether All Kids Should Get Outdoor Education - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:03] <exec> 08└─Weigh the kids, not the idea.
[20:10:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Change your password! - 06Beijing Threatens Legal Action Over Webcam Claims - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:19] <exec> 08└─"Wild conspiracies?" There is no such thing anymore. What we know for a fact, as in real and actually done, are beyond what conspiracy theorists feared in 2004.
[20:10:21] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03MrGuy [1007] 02What do we actually know? - 06Beijing Threatens Legal Action Over Webcam Claims - 40 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:21] <exec> 08└─You will like Chinese products, or else.
[20:10:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Come on and ride the Train - 06Beijing Threatens Legal Action Over Webcam Claims - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:27] <exec> 08└─Come on and ride the Trump train! We will re-negotiate our trade deals and stop China from dumping garbage like this into our country.
[20:10:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Cheap IoT is borderless. - 06Beijing Threatens Legal Action Over Webcam Claims - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:29] <exec> 08└─American smartphone yesterday. Chinese webcams today. Your IoT fridge tomorrow... It doesn't matter. All these devices use outdated kernels and packages with insecure defaults.
[20:10:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:Vampire current is a non-problem. - 06A Complete Waste of Energy - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:51] <exec> 08└─Some of the stuff I have (cooker and microwave come to mind), if turned off, refuses to resume working unless you first go through an elaborate set-up procedure, including setting the date, time and default preferences. They are enough of a pain after the occasional power cut.
[20:11:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Spyboard - 06Google's "Jamboard" Takes on the Giant Touchscreen Workplace Niche - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:16] <exec> 08└─You sound antisocial. May I offer you a pill? 💊
[20:11:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:A different question - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:43] <exec> 08└─you did as much as defense contractors die to lie to the public and anyone else who needed lying to
[20:11:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:A different question - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:46] <exec> 08└─In theory, it could be declared an odious debt since it benefited the leaders who lied and not the tax payers footing the bill.
[20:12:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:The entire Universe, dude! - 06Saturn's Mysterious Hexagon Has Changed From Blue to Gold - and No One Knows Why - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:12] <exec> 08└─It depends on what your definition of "is," is.
[20:13:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Vote third party - 06 Iceland's Pirate Party Tops Polls Ahead of National Elections - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:08] <exec> 08└─That is due to history. The countries/cultures that did not have strong right-wing tendencies in their DNA were wiped off the map. The remaining one are what history has made them. They only pretend to tolerate other cultures so long as it lines their pockets and doesn't endanger their future. Shoul...
[20:13:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Redundant) 02Re:Four years is lame - 06 Iceland's Pirate Party Tops Polls Ahead of National Elections - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:12] <exec> 08└─The GOP made a conscious decision to become the party of people who spell "black folks" with two Gs in it...
[20:13:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And other European Pirate Parties? - 06 Iceland's Pirate Party Tops Polls Ahead of National Elections - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:15] <exec> 08└─German party is probably a bandwagon off-shoot that has a lot of hanger-ons that are trying to make their lives relevant. Regardless, I hope the Pirate Party fares well, they are what Occupy movement would be if it had any direction or goal in mind.
[20:13:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:57] <exec> 08└─There is no such thing as international law.
[20:14:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Vaders [Re:Accepted science can be wrong] - 06Study Casts Doubt on Cosmic Acceleration and Dark Energy - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:19] <exec> 08└─Dark Energy driven expansion would have no affect on 2000 the "bad guys", as the local group (Milky Way, Andromeda, etc.) is gravitationally bound, and will hold together against cosmic expansion long enough for the sun to die.
[20:15:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Solar Power is Not Renewable - 06Global Renewable Energy Capacity Overtakes Coal - 763 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:15:03] <exec> 08└─I'm assuming that you were going for the funny mod (which at this point in time you hold), but since the other posters have ignored this point... Not turning sun light into electricity doesn't slow down the death of the sun. This doesn't imply that I think solar is always the best choice (though in...
[20:18:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Re:Foreign Johnnys - 06Amundsen's Ship Raised! - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:18:08] <exec> 08└─I've always been of the opinion that Van Owen was the better man.
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[21:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Fully weaned off the glass teat. - 06American Academy of Paediatrics Changes Infant Screen Time Advice - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:03] <exec> 08└─I don't even own a TV. [theonion.com]
[21:10:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Fully weaned off the glass teat. - 06American Academy of Paediatrics Changes Infant Screen Time Advice - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:05] <exec> 08└─YouTube is the new TV! Tablets for every baby!
[21:10:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Great idea but poor plan - 06Oregon Weighs Whether All Kids Should Get Outdoor Education - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:18] <exec> 08└─In the end you are robbing Peter to pay Paul.
[21:10:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Great idea but poor plan - 06Oregon Weighs Whether All Kids Should Get Outdoor Education - 1069 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:19] <exec> 08└─Not unreasonable, but there are counterpoints: 1. Absolutely everything government does robs Peter to pay Paul. That argument is the basis for libertarianism as a basic political philosophy, and it can in fact be used to object to any government action whatsoever or indeed the existence of governmen...
[21:10:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02But, think of the children! - 06Oregon Weighs Whether All Kids Should Get Outdoor Education - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:23] <exec> 08└─If the education is conducted outdoors... how can we train the children to work and live in soulless corporate boxes? My $Bob! They might even start thinking for themselves!
[21:10:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02We accept this - 06Beijing Threatens Legal Action Over Webcam Claims - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:47] <exec> 08└─So there's jokes in the article summary about totalitarian regimes like the Soviet Union and communist China punishing people for the free speech of maligning products ... but here in America most people I know think it's perfectly fine for a company to sue for things like "slander", so I'm not sure...
[21:10:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03archfeld [4650] (Score:2) 02Re:We accept this - 06Beijing Threatens Legal Action Over Webcam Claims - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:49] <exec> 08└─Slander implies you are speaking something other than the truth. http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com [thefreedictionary.com]
[21:11:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03iamjacksusername [1479] (Score:2) 02Yet another unfunished prototype - 06Google's "Jamboard" Takes on the Giant Touchscreen Workplace Niche - 1969 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:11:36] <exec> 08└─Google needs to follow through with at least one of the many products they have released that are not search. I deployed Google Apps for customers a few years ago and am now migrating them off the platform because it is a joke product for any company that is not tech focused. It is one of those mea...
[21:11:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Arik [4543] 02Re:Ethics of Government - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 161 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:55] <exec> 08└─"There is not a separate system of right and wrong for the government no matter how much power it holds." No, but we seem to be living in a post-ethical society.
[21:12:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''boots on the ground'' - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 810 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:16] <exec> 08└─That term was invented by The Establishment to distract from the fact that there are PEOPLE getting physical and mentally wounds--with thousands dying--in the process of expanding USAian hegemony. I do wish folks would quit parroting the term. If you mean "combat personnel", say that. . The claw-bac...
[21:12:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03SixGunMojo [509] 02Re:The entire Universe, dude! - 06Saturn's Mysterious Hexagon Has Changed From Blue to Gold - and No One Knows Why - 446 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:27] <exec> 08└─Well they are technically correct, just a very small sample size. I was more struck by this line - ...Discovered almost 30 years ago, Saturn's hexagon is a six-sided structure that spans roughly 32,000 km (20,000 miles) in diameter .... Is this a no-shit-sherlock statement or are there hexagons of w...
[21:12:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:The entire Universe, dude! - 06Saturn's Mysterious Hexagon Has Changed From Blue to Gold - and No One Knows Why - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:33] <exec> 08└─Not everyone knows what a hexagon is.
[21:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Vote third party - 06 Iceland's Pirate Party Tops Polls Ahead of National Elections - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:28] <exec> 08└─That would almost seem to be a knock against your argument for parliamentary systems. Perhaps the built-in inertia of the two-party system helps dampen out the reactionary response you're talking about.
[21:14:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:12] <exec> 08└─Jesus, Aristarchus
[21:14:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:20] <exec> 08└─Oooh! You outlaw, you! Must be good, to be soooo bad! But don't come crying to us when you end up in front of the ICC after your "vacation" to some "conflict zone". Mercs, the only thing dumber than Republicans.
[21:14:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Jives better with MiHsC? - 06Study Casts Doubt on Cosmic Acceleration and Dark Energy - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:57] <exec> 08└─Not sayin', but just sayin'. http://math.ucr.edu [ucr.edu]
[21:18:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Foreign Johnnys - 06Amundsen's Ship Raised! - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:18:31] <exec> 08└─Never trust Frisians bearing Thompsons.
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[22:09:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02And yet - 06 I've Returned from Mars... Argggh, My Back! - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:37] <exec> 08└─Nasa refuses to consider implementing pseudo-gravity by having a rotating crew section.
[22:09:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:And yet - 06 I've Returned from Mars... Argggh, My Back! - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:39] <exec> 08└─They've had people on the ISS for up to a year and they're not completely fucked. We can just focus on getting to Mars faster with better propulsion.
[22:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:And yet - 06 I've Returned from Mars... Argggh, My Back! - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:41] <exec> 08└─Probably because it's a bit more complicated than you blithely assume it'll be.
[22:09:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:And yet - 06 I've Returned from Mars... Argggh, My Back! - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:43] <exec> 08└─It's easy to do on the lunar sound stage ... Oh wait no, it's easy to do because the Earth is flat and space is a hoax... Dang, wrong one again! Should I go over keeping panels facing the sun on a completely rotating craft, or keeping seals vacuum-tight on a partially rotating craft?
[22:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And yet - 06 I've Returned from Mars... Argggh, My Back! - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:45] <exec> 08└─Just re-create the Gemini 8 problem.
[22:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Come on! - 06 I've Returned from Mars... Argggh, My Back! - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:48] <exec> 08└─It wouldn't be a Phoenix666 story without someone taking apart some piece of the submission! Inversion tables only work with gravity and wouldn't help strengthen the back anyway.
[22:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03chromas [34] (Score:2) 02Re:Come on! - 06 I've Returned from Mars... Argggh, My Back! - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:50] <exec> 08└─I—I'm pretty sure it was a joke.
[22:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''Inversion tables only work with gravity'' - 06 I've Returned from Mars... Argggh, My Back! - 637 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:52] <exec> 08└─...but I've seen photos of in-orbit folks on the treadmill up there. They use springs attached to a body harness to add resistance. and wouldn't help strengthen the back anyway Yeah, I'd like to see the simple rig that -will- do that. As a previous comment noted, that was likely an attempt at mirth....
[22:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03black6host [3827] (Score:2) 02Inversion table? - 06 I've Returned from Mars... Argggh, My Back! - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:54] <exec> 08└─Did I miss a whoosh? Damn! How you gonna have an upside down when there's no right side up? :) I better get back to honing my mental skills. Must have missed a whoosh... hehe
[22:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I've returned from IKEA with a chair - 06 I've Returned from Mars... Argggh, My Back! - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:56] <exec> 08└─...argggh, my back!
[22:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02The Doctor says - 06American Academy of Paediatrics Changes Infant Screen Time Advice - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:10:07] <exec> 08└─I let my kids watch this British show about a doctor who says "run" a lot.... I like that: shows recommending exercise. Nice! My kids are afraid of the dark, though. Not sure why......
[22:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Tech advice from pediatricians - 06American Academy of Paediatrics Changes Infant Screen Time Advice - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:10:08] <exec> 08└─Let's not take tech advice from pediatricians too seriously. They are not really at the cutting edge. The effects of TV could have been tested 40 years ago. And what is digital media? Does is include MP3 music? As a parent of a young child, my experience is that technology is a valuable tool to fost...
[22:10:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Tech advice from pediatricians - 06American Academy of Paediatrics Changes Infant Screen Time Advice - 0 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:10] <exec> 08└─
[22:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Tech advice from pediatricians - 06American Academy of Paediatrics Changes Infant Screen Time Advice - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:13] <exec> 08└─You need to balance it out, though. I know too many parents who use the TV/computer/iPad as substitute parents. They just park their kids in front Disney Jr. or PBS Kids or something else for multiple hours a day and barely interact with them. Yeah, bad parents are everywhere, but back in the day my...
[22:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Not so much about the *time* - 06American Academy of Paediatrics Changes Infant Screen Time Advice - 3914 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:10:15] <exec> 08└─I really wish this sort of recommendation would stop being phrased in terms of amount of screen TIME. If you even read the report, you discover that there are a lot of other factors at play. Put bad parenting and inappropriate content together, and they reinforce bad results. Put good parenting and...
[22:10:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Change your password! - 06Beijing Threatens Legal Action Over Webcam Claims - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:48] <exec> 08└─Absotutely fracking 'A'! Truth is stranger than fiction (and Hillary is Moby Dick!!!!!) About the only conspiracy not proven correct is.... wait for it....... wait for it....... ....yeah..... Do not go in there!!! Wheeeeewww!
[22:10:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What do we actually know? - 06Beijing Threatens Legal Action Over Webcam Claims - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:52] <exec> 08└─My bloody kogan tv does this Not buying another "smart" tv
[22:12:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Ethics of Government - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:12:05] <exec> 08└─This is why we can't have international law!
[22:12:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:The entire Universe, dude! - 06Saturn's Mysterious Hexagon Has Changed From Blue to Gold - and No One Knows Why - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:12:43] <exec> 08└─Point being, they should not admit such extreme ignorance, and for the writer to help them out like this is condescending and downright rude.
[22:12:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The entire Universe, dude! - 06Saturn's Mysterious Hexagon Has Changed From Blue to Gold - and No One Knows Why - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:12:46] <exec> 08└─Mountain out of a mole-hill. It is redundant, but also an educational writing format. But hey, +5 for nitpicking!
[22:13:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Powering up - 06Saturn's Mysterious Hexagon Has Changed From Blue to Gold - and No One Knows Why - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:04] <exec> 08└─So DragonBall moves are based on real life! I knew it!* * kind of redundant cause it knew it when I dragonpunched another worm offa cliff to win
[22:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:You sorely underestimate... - 06 Iceland's Pirate Party Tops Polls Ahead of National Elections - 610 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:36] <exec> 08└─thanks to those pitching in to answer, and i will add one more factor here: the so-called PUBLIC AIRWAVES (and similar 'monopolies' on using right-of-ways to run cable/FIOS/etc) were LEASED to the various broadcast korporations with a REAL expectation that they ALSO PROVIDE A PUBLIC SERVICE... that...
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[23:09:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:And yet - 06 I've Returned from Mars... Argggh, My Back! - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:44] <exec> 08└─It's easy, line the entire thing with panels and then you just need to keep enough pressure in the cabin to counteract the loss through the seals. An infinitely large tank of compressed air should do the trick. Man, those eggheads at NASA make this seem SOOOO hard. Sheesh.
[23:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Come on! - 06 I've Returned from Mars... Argggh, My Back! - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:48] <exec> 08└─Ya? Got your joke glasses on? Inversion tables help out people with serious injuries! Making lite of their situation is just low...
[23:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:''Inversion tables only work with gravity'' - 06 I've Returned from Mars... Argggh, My Back! - 504 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:51] <exec> 08└─I'd go for padded harness over the shoulders with rubber ties to the "ground". Do a hundred squats to put pressure down the spine and the legs... I know that adding a kid a third of my weight on my shoulders is a decent exercise, so having springy stuff emulating half your body weight would be a sta...
[23:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Blinding - 06 I've Returned from Mars... Argggh, My Back! - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:56] <exec> 08└─The headline finding: Paraspinal lean muscle mass, as indicated by the FCSA, decreased from 86% of the total PSM cross-sectional area down to 72%, immediately after the mission. Recovery of 68% of the postflight loss...
[23:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Republican counterproposal - 06Oregon Weighs Whether All Kids Should Get Outdoor Education - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:20] <exec> 08└─Yes, but the post was still funny!
[23:10:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:Great idea but poor plan - 06Oregon Weighs Whether All Kids Should Get Outdoor Education - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:25] <exec> 08└─I see your point, but if we take the tax-on-people-that-suck-at-math^wlottery as a given, can you really think of anything *worse* that this money is likely to get spent on at this point?
[23:10:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02One size fits all - 06Oregon Weighs Whether All Kids Should Get Outdoor Education - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:10:30] <exec> 08└─There are kids who still get their education from state programs?
[23:10:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score:2) 02My experience - 06Oregon Weighs Whether All Kids Should Get Outdoor Education - 2576 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:10:32] <exec> 08└─Growing up in Oregon I attended a school that did participate in outdoor school for those in the forth and fifth grades. Leading up to outdoor school we were put in electives like wood burning, some animal /plant identification, basket weaving, bowl making, camp songs, etc. When we finally went to c...
[23:12:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:A different question - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:12:12] <exec> 08└─Says one of the most conservative members of the SN community, about a fraud that was perpetrated by a conservative administration that had full-throated support from conservatives. That's straight out of Karl Rove's playbook, ie. to accuse others of what you're thoroughly guilty of to forestall any...
[23:12:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:"...White House Resists." ? - 06Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists - 401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:12:28] <exec> 08└─Headline: Congress Calls for Waiver of Enlistment Bonus Repayments as White House Resists Summary: President Obama has told the Defense Department to expedite its review of nearly 10,000 California National Guard soldiers who have been ordered to repay enlistment bonuses improperly given a decade ag...
[23:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02Re:You sorely underestimate... - 06 Iceland's Pirate Party Tops Polls Ahead of National Elections - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:13:38] <exec> 08└─The funny thing is that Trump's bad record includes calling fat women fat, and making money off of idiots. Hillary's record includes knowingly funding ISIS and 100% absolutely cheating her better opponent (Sanders) out of the election, and laughing about her successful defense of a child rapist, etc...
[23:14:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:25] <exec> 08└─You use the word "we", and I presume that "we" are western people of European descent. In China, they haven't forgotten such atrocities as the rape of Nanking. The atrocities committed by the communist government get a lot less lip service, primarily because the communists are still officially in ch...
[23:14:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:28] <exec> 08└─The internment of the Japanese was atrocious, but not up to the level of the Nazis or the Trail of Tears. There was no particular attempt to kill the Japanese-Americans, merely to exclude and impoverish them. Just about all survived. And, as far as I can determine, the goals were strictly economic,...
[23:14:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:31] <exec> 08└─" Does not become you, Runaway!" I think that you are a poor judge of what is becoming. I do think for myeslf, thank you very much.
[23:14:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:At the risk of winning a Godwin - 06Judge Orders FBI to Reveal Whether White House Launched 'Tor Pedo' Torpedo Exploits - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:41] <exec> 08└─Depends on what you mean. There's a general, but not unanimous, agreement on some things. You can argue that those are only international treaties, of course, but when 90% of the force is on one side, then there's effectively a law, even if enforcement is extremely sloppy. And if you argue that if i...
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