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[00:09:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Atlantic - 06​AI Expert: Super-Smart Cars Are Just a Glorious Beginning - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:27] <exec> 08└─Not to mention that I woke up in Australia this morning, and I sure as shit didn't feel superhuman when my flatmate said "'ornin."
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[00:09:33] <exec> 08└─I once asked a priest why Catholicism was best. He replied, "It's not the best, otherwise they wouldn't be leaving in droves. They find the services boring and tedious; the teaching, complicated; the history, wanting; the hypocrisy, untenable; and the teachings, old-fashioned. No people always look...
[00:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Science - 06Experts Claim They Might Have 'Solved' the Bermuda Triangle Mystery - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:43] <exec> 08└─This one?
[00:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Huh? - 06How to Solve "The Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever" - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:21] <exec> 08└─The classic question, by Kaspar Hauser in The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser (German: Jeder für sich und Gott gegen alle; lit. Every Man for Himself and God Against All), by Werner Herzog, is "Are you a tree frog?" Knights usually answer "nein". Knaves answer "ja", and the jig is up! Citation: https://en...
[00:12:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Another Example - 06‘We Have Your Daughter’: a Virtual Kidnapping and a Mother’s Five Hours of Hell - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:12:19] <exec> 08└─I am curious, Eth. What makes you think she did not believe it?
[00:13:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bodger [5390] (Score:1) 02Contact your provider - 06Ask Soylent: Sending Email at a Measured Pace - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:13:16] <exec> 08└─The provider is able and may be willing to increase your limits. I work for a company in that industry and know that can be done.
[00:15:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03WalksOnDirt [5854] (Score:2) 02Re:fun idea: can 9 be a double planet - 06The Mysterious ‘Planet Nine’ Might be Causing the Whole Solar System to Wobble - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:15:55] <exec> 08└─...but it ignores that they can both be tidally locked
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[01:09:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Amazing Desktop Levels of performance... - 06Razer's New Blade Pro: Desktop Performance in 0.9 Inches and 8 Lbs - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:09:26] <exec> 08└─Until it heats up enough to throttle itself or generates so much fan noise your ears start to bleed. Did not RTFA (Read the fucking advertisement)
[01:09:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Mechanical keyboard - 06Razer's New Blade Pro: Desktop Performance in 0.9 Inches and 8 Lbs - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:09:27] <exec> 08└─yeah, well, my thinkpad has that, and it's awesome.
[01:09:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Peter Bright - 06Razer's New Blade Pro: Desktop Performance in 0.9 Inches and 8 Lbs - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:09:29] <exec> 08└─The fucker's a fat bastard, ain't he. That ain't no crime, but what's with the mug shot being printed on the piece?
[01:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03deadstick [5110] (Score:2) 02Re:Science - 06Experts Claim They Might Have 'Solved' the Bermuda Triangle Mystery - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:09:54] <exec> 08└─Or, he might have pointed out that those clouds look like Benard cells.
[01:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Not quite - 06Experts Claim They Might Have 'Solved' the Bermuda Triangle Mystery - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:09:56] <exec> 08└─It was Gumal's ancient time device. [mcgrewbooks.com]
[01:11:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:''Trump [is] already against it'' - 06AT&T Poised to Buy Time Warner for $85.4 Billion - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:11:20] <exec> 08└─"Ow! Shit! I stubbed my toe!" but in russian.
[01:11:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Perfectly Circular - 06AT&T Poised to Buy Time Warner for $85.4 Billion - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:11:22] <exec> 08└─Only in a roundabout sort of way.
[01:11:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:HDS - 06AT&T Poised to Buy Time Warner for $85.4 Billion - 391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:11:44] <exec> 08└─I am a proud victim of HDS. Wow, I have already progressed to uncontrolled fits of rage at how corrupt Hillary Clinton is and how much of a criminal she is!!! The social ostracization part must be a later stage, most everyone else seems to have the same syndrome as me. The problem is that we must ch...
[01:12:18] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03chewbacon [1032] 02Re:Is it illegal? - 06‘We Have Your Daughter’: a Virtual Kidnapping and a Mother’s Five Hours of Hell - 229 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:12:19] <exec> 08└─Wire fraud. If you're calling someone and telling them you've kidnapped their daughter, then you'd better have her hog tied on your end! Really, how could you explain that if you got caught? Probably easier to explain kidnapping.
[01:16:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Planet 10 - 06The Mysterious ‘Planet Nine’ Might be Causing the Whole Solar System to Wobble - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:16:21] <exec> 08└─Instead of being trollish about it, why is Pluto not a planet? I mean that seriously. The depth of my knowledge on the subject is that they changed the meaning of planet, or Pluto somehow no longer qualifies. It might be more helpful to explain why, and I was hoping some of the people around with gr...
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[02:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Amazing Desktop Levels of performance... - 06Razer's New Blade Pro: Desktop Performance in 0.9 Inches and 8 Lbs - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:09:43] <exec> 08└─I'll give it this: the "4K G-Sync capable screen". Whether the 4K resolution is necessary, that's up to you, but G-Sync/FreeSync is a good trend.
[02:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kenny Blankenship [5712] (Score:1) 02What's the big deal? - 06Razer's New Blade Pro: Desktop Performance in 0.9 Inches and 8 Lbs - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:09:47] <exec> 08└─I went to the website and saw the pictures of their expensive new laptop showing pictures - on my cheap old laptop! It reminds me of the explosion-laden "This is DVD" ads that used to be on VHS tapes for a few years before they stopped renting them.
[02:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:AI "Expert" thinks AI is awesome.... - 06​AI Expert: Super-Smart Cars Are Just a Glorious Beginning - 618 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:03] <exec> 08└─> C3PO, robot butlers and some post-capitalist utopia More likely Marvin and the marketing department of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation. Need I remind you of, "A bunch of mindless jerks who were the first against the wall when the revolution came." (DNA) I'm in with the idea of improving interfa...
[02:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Science - 06Experts Claim They Might Have 'Solved' the Bermuda Triangle Mystery - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:13] <exec> 08└─Clouds creating wind is not some unprecedented phenomenon. [wikipedia.org]
[02:10:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:GIGO - 06How to Solve "The Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever" - 1340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:38] <exec> 08└─Yep. Neither are prizes, nor fountains of morality, nor pillars of community trust. It's a choice between a highly mentally unstable sexual predator with delusions of grandeur that exhibits scary tendencies towards belligerent and intractable vindictiveness punctuated by childish petulance.... and a...
[02:11:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Enabler of Corruption - 06AT&T Poised to Buy Time Warner for $85.4 Billion - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:11:46] <exec> 08└─And that's how you enable political corruption. When you chose to treat them as if they are all equally venal, then there is no incentive for them to do anything but live down to the worst expectations. By abdicating an expectation of good governance your attitude is the single greatest enabler of c...
[02:11:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Enabler of Corruption - 06AT&T Poised to Buy Time Warner for $85.4 Billion - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:11:48] <exec> 08└─That's funny, that is. As if me going lalala what a wonderful and pure world will keep greedy fucks from seeking power.
[02:12:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Another Example - 06‘We Have Your Daughter’: a Virtual Kidnapping and a Mother’s Five Hours of Hell - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:12:55] <exec> 08└─Hey Eth -- didn't you know that *you* were the subject of "The Ransom of Red Chief" by O. Henry? Your granny was hoping to get rid of you...
[02:13:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02POV - 06The NBA Now Comes Live in VR Once a Week This Season - 590 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:13:09] <exec> 08└─So where are the cameras (either physically or virtually) for this VR programming? If they are just in some good seat and let you turn your head to follow the action (or check out the cute guy/gal a few rows over) that isn't going to be all that exciting. Now, if the cameras were on the players (spe...
[02:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yes - 06Ask Soylent: Sending Email at a Measured Pace - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:50] <exec> 08└─> asking the ISP to raise it on your account, Bingo, thanks! Don't know why we didn't think of this -- will try it first. These mailings to all ~700 members only go out two or three times a year. The rest of the time the email traffic might be a few messages per day. - OP -
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[03:09:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02US spacecraft from Earth - 06Did 40-Year-Old Viking Experiment Discover Life on Mars? - 488 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:09:32] <exec> 08└─So US also has spacecrafts not from Earth... interesting. :P As for landing, many others "crashed" first, and one even stood alive for over 10 seconds. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] Awesome that with such new, for their time, systems we launched and managed t...
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[03:09:44] <exec> 08└─No, it doesn't.
[03:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03ShadowSystems [6185] (Score:1) 02"Thin & Light" can KMMFA. - 06Razer's New Blade Pro: Desktop Performance in 0.9 Inches and 8 Lbs - 2544 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:09:46] <exec> 08└─First we have a manufacturer (not just these guys but nearly all of them) that tears out all the standard ports in an effort to make their devices as "thin & light" as possible, & then proceeds to charge a premium for the thing. Then because they've stripped out all the ports that were once standard...
[03:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Thin & Light" can KMMFA. - 06Razer's New Blade Pro: Desktop Performance in 0.9 Inches and 8 Lbs - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:49] <exec> 08└─... it's got a 4GHz CPU ...
[03:09:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:Atlantic - 06​AI Expert: Super-Smart Cars Are Just a Glorious Beginning - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:59] <exec> 08└─That's cuz you didn't fly across an ocean first. Jees, some people's kids....
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[03:10:06] <exec> 08└─That the Catholic Church still continues to chug along after two thousand years in spite of all of the bastards and assholes who have inhabited it over the centuries sort of says something. You'd think that someone as venal and corrupt as Pope Alexander VI would manage to destroy the Church, and the...
[03:10:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Farkus888 [5159] (Score:2) 02Re:GIGO - 06How to Solve "The Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever" - 427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:43] <exec> 08└─1ff6 Speaking of Garbage in Garbage out. Your garbage knowledge of history lead to you making a garbage comment. The American people have had 2 civil wars. I could see you overlooking the revolutionary war being a civil war since we were part of the british empire but fighting against it. America w...
[03:11:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Huh? - 06How to Solve "The Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever" - 1374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:11:03] <exec> 08└─The "two plus two equals four" stuff is the article's attempt to try to "paraphrase" the actual published solution to the problem (from 1996), but it doesn't make a lot of sense the way it's phrased. If you really want to understand the solutions, look them up (or solve the puzzle yourself) -- the p...
[03:11:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grey [5802] (Score:1) 02Ruminations - 06How to Solve "The Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever" - 1106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:11:07] <exec> 08└─I spent a lot of time thinking about this problem a year or two back. It's fun because one can, meaningfully, think about what it means to say that it takes 2.5 bit 14d7 s of information to answer a question (that's a random non-integer-- not directly related to the problem). I think the problem mig...
[03:11:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Nerds - 06How to Solve "The Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever" - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:11:09] <exec> 08└─That's why you never get dates. Nerds - social morons.
[03:11:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Enabler of Corruption - 06AT&T Poised to Buy Time Warner for $85.4 Billion - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:11:59] <exec> 08└─What, you think you are the only idiot who thinks like that? Narcissist much? Individually you are nothing, but together your combined idiocy is how we got exactly where we are today. That's right, the uber individualist is just another sheeple in the herd after all.
[03:12:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:''Trump [is] already against it'' - 06AT&T Poised to Buy Time Warner for $85.4 Billion - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:12:01] <exec> 08└─This is an argument against Trump? Clinton has a long history of the same sort of behavior, it's just that she's a lot more subtle about it. Anyways, TFS says that Trump is already against this merger, so I'm not sure how I'm wrong here.
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[04:09:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02That's why the US military - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:09:34] <exec> 08└─has flagged climate change as one of its top threats. http://www.reuters.com [reuters.com]
[04:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:US spacecraft from Earth - 06Did 40-Year-Old Viking Experiment Discover Life on Mars? - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:09:42] <exec> 08└─Luckily the Schiaparelli lander was mostly just a test for a future lander.
[04:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02European crashers - 06Did 40-Year-Old Viking Experiment Discover Life on Mars? - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:09:44] <exec> 08└─ESA should call them crashers or impacters. Then fail at it.
[04:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03ShadowSystems [6185] (Score:1) 02Re:"Thin & Light" can KMMFA. - 06Razer's New Blade Pro: Desktop Performance in 0.9 Inches and 8 Lbs - 777 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:09:58] <exec> 08└─Except that most computers now don't have much above 2~3GHz in them. You have to customize the machine to add the 4GHz part, which adds more money to the build (obviously). So for my eight core 4GHz I7, that's a damn sight better than the mobil version that most makers tend to foist upon folks. I'd...
[04:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:"Thin & Light" can KMMFA. - 06Razer's New Blade Pro: Desktop Performance in 0.9 Inches and 8 Lbs - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:10:00] <exec> 08└─Just be glad you're not in the machining industry, where you still need RS-232.
[04:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03ShadowSystems [6185] (Score:1) 02RS232? - 06Razer's New Blade Pro: Desktop Performance in 0.9 Inches and 8 Lbs - 350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:10:02] <exec> 08└─BAH! You WhipperSnappers & your newfangled ports! Back in my day we had to arrange amino acids into zeros & ones, prod them with a pseudopod to get them to move where we wanted them, & hope they stayed in order while they went. We didn't have any fancy ports and that's the way we LIKED it! *Shakes a...
[04:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Thin & Light" can KMMFA. - 06Razer's New Blade Pro: Desktop Performance in 0.9 Inches and 8 Lbs - 1255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:10:04] <exec> 08└─To me, the only truly essential legacy port that you listed is the headphone jack. That one I ca 11de nnot live without, and I would never buy a machine that lacked one. Most of the rest of the stuff you mentioned is stuff you won't always need to do. How often do you really need to do presentations...
[04:10:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score:2) 02purpose of AI - 06​AI Expert: Super-Smart Cars Are Just a Glorious Beginning - 602 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:10:23] <exec> 08└─Using AI to do things that humans already do with relative efficiency is about as exciting as the invention of a self-soiling diaper. Sure, a diaper that dirties itself eliminates the baby from the equation, but the diaper was created for the baby and has no purpose on its own. Maybe you can produce...
[04:10:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Not enough scare quotes in headline - 06Experts Claim They Might Have 'Solved' the Bermuda Triangle Mystery - 600 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:10:37] <exec> 08└─Should read, "Experts" Claim They Might Have "Solved" the Bermuda Triangle "Mystery". In fact, you could probably put scare quotes around almost every word in the headline other than "have" and "the". One cannot be an "expert" on solving a problem about the real world that doesn't exist in the real...
[04:11:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:GIGO - 06How to Solve "The Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever" - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:11:01] <exec> 08└─> The unwashed masses and labor merely need to be contained, controlled, and profited from. Plenty of evidence for this clear pattern of behavior on her part. And any evidence to the contrary? Or does that not count?
[04:11:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:Huh? - 06How to Solve "The Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever" - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:11:22] <exec> 08└─Thanks for the clarification. The article was unclear about the goal of the last problem, which I assumed was to identify what all the cards are. It sounds like this is impossible, since in the proposed solution, you can only guarantee picking one ace, and cannot guarantee identifying all three card...
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[05:09:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Genetic Engineering will Save Us - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:09:30] <exec> 08└─Crops getting less water? Engineer them to need less. Hell, solve the energy issue and everything else will follow. Desalination, air conditioning, and turbo transport will make everything cheap. And our electronic circuses will keep population down.
[05:09:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02There are No Shortcuts - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:09:32] <exec> 08└─> Genetic Engineering will Save Us That is ridiculous. We can't re-engineer the entire environment. Crops do not exist in a vacuum. Everything is interconnected, re-jiggering the species most visible to us won't do a damn thing except let us fool ourselves into thinking there is a shortcut.
[05:09:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Genetic Engineering will Save Us - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:09:34] <exec> 08└─How much improvement is left in our crops? Maybe yield per acre can be improved, but will it require more water/energy/fertilizers?
[05:09:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02They've already made the movie - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:09:36] <exec> 08└─Soylent Green
[05:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02-ate - 06Did 40-Year-Old Viking Experiment Discover Life on Mars? - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:09:47] <exec> 08└─One possible candidate is formate...Another potential candidate is perchlorate
[05:10:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:RS232? - 06Razer's New Blade Pro: Desktop Performance in 0.9 Inches and 8 Lbs - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:10:05] <exec> 08└─Any port in a storm, eh?
[05:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03ShadowSystems [6185] (Score:1) 02Re:RS232? - 06Razer's New Blade Pro: Desktop Performance in 0.9 Inches and 8 Lbs - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:10:06] <exec> 08└─*Holds nose & chases after you with a dead fish* Bad pun! Bad! Hahahahahahaha...
[05:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03ShadowSystems [6185] (Score:1) 02At the AC re ports. - 06Razer's New Blade Pro: Desktop Performance in 0.9 Inches and 8 Lbs - 2202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:10:09] <exec> 08└─I use a wired LAN connection each & every day. There is no wireless available in the building due to it being old, a natural Faraday Cage, & security demands that nobody be able to Man-In-The-Middle a wireless transmission that will almost certainly include data that we *Can Not* allow to get out. N...
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[05:14:16] <exec> 08└─By far the cheapest VPS offer I know is ArubaCloud (1€ per month for 1GB RAM, 20GB SSD). I have two servers (Backup MX, VPN) there for a few months now, one in Italy and in Czech Republic, had no problems yet and, surprisingly, performance has also been great. Can't say anything about customer sup...
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[06:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Genetic Engineering will Save Us - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:09:38] <exec> 08└─So what you're saying is "nerd harder"?
[06:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02more hard selling - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:41] <exec> 08└─Recent research suggests climate change will lead to troubling social and economic damages, including a severe drop in global GDP.
[06:10:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:At the AC re ports. - 06Razer's New Blade Pro: Desktop Performance in 0.9 Inches and 8 Lbs - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:10:14] <exec> 08└─I regularly connect to my laptop: my tv, my 3d printer, my corded trackball (don't have to worry about batteries), thumb drives, external speakers and headphones. Whenever available cords work better than wireless.
[06:10:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:At the AC re ports. - 06Razer's New Blade Pro: Desktop Performance in 0.9 Inches and 8 Lbs - 948 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:10:15] <exec> 08└─I don't lug around a kilo of dongles, docks, and adapters. If you are, you're doing it wrong. A USB C to A adapter and a USB Ethernet adapter is a total of 100 grams tops, as I said, probably far less. It's a negligible weight addition, and they're more or less the size of a thumb drive. My laptop's...
[06:11:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Huh? - 06How to Solve "The Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever" - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:11:34] <exec> 08└─Yes, I now realize that TFA is vague on that point too. In general, it's a really bad presentation that basically completely rips off the original 1996 article but manages to screw stuff up and be vague so that the material is completely unclear.
[06:11:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jiro [3176] (Score:2) 02One answer - 06How to Solve "The Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever" - 930 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:11:40] <exec> 08└─"If I asked you X, would you say 'da'?" will produce the answer "da" if the answer to X is "yes" and "ja" if the answer is "no", regardless of whether the person is True or False and regardless of whether "da" means "yes" and "ja" means "no" or vice versa. If you modify this to "If I asked you X and...
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[07:09:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:That's why the US military - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:28] <exec> 08└─Yeah, i like where it says in the article that: "We're going to bomb the HELL out of that there climate... we'll teach it to go all climatey on us. And if you're not with us, you're again' us." GogoGadget military! :) Yes, i'm being all funny/sarcastic... no need to 'troll' mod me.
[07:09:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kell [292] (Score:2) 02Re:That's why the US military - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:29] <exec> 08└─From my vantage point it looks safely in the fairway.
[07:09:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:That's why the US military - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:31] <exec> 08└─...and that about half of the politicians of that country have decided that it's just a global conspiracy to put a hurt on the USA and aren't just ignoring it, but are actively working to make it worse. because they know more than scientists. maybe God told them.
[07:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Between a Mars rock and a hard place - 06Did 40-Year-Old Viking Experiment Discover Life on Mars? - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:09:48] <exec> 08└─Seems it would be hard to rule out unknown soil chemistry with just about any chemistry based test. Triangulation of multiple techniques, or direct microscopic observation, will probably be needed to rule out tricky chemistry.
[07:12:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is it illegal? - 06‘We Have Your Daughter’: a Virtual Kidnapping and a Mother’s Five Hours of Hell - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:12:53] <exec> 08└─Rather than "excuse crimes", we should simply have absolute freedom of speech. The things you claim are harmful are not actually truly harmful at all.
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[08:09:46] <exec> 08└─Give me a kernel of Zea mays, and I can save the Earth.
[08:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03chromas [34] (Score:2) 02Preview - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:09:51] <exec> 08└─Summer riots in the inner city give us a peek into the future. Who's ready to go a-lootin'?
[08:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Global warming is easy to avoid. - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:09:53] <exec> 08└─Global warming occurs only if you have polluted tiles you are too lazy to clean up. I have had games with no global warming, and why? Because I don't throw around lots of nukes, and when I, or the AI (I'm looking at you, Mahatma Gandhi) do send nukes, the fallout is promptly cleaned. Pollution tiles...
[08:10:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:-ate - 06Did 40-Year-Old Viking Experiment Discover Life on Mars? - 5 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:04] <exec> 08└─What?
[08:10:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:2) 02Re:Amazing Desktop Levels of performance... - 06Razer's New Blade Pro: Desktop Performance in 0.9 Inches and 8 Lbs - 2299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:16] <exec> 08└─I've had gaming laptops and I don't think they've ever come even close to the noise from a desktop. The PSU is entirely separate (and uncooled) which is one source of noise gone. Heat, sure, that's unavoidable, but a laptop is a basically a giant flat heatsink and any fans on it are going to be smal...
[08:10:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:At the AC re ports. - 06Razer's New Blade Pro: Desktop Performance in 0.9 Inches and 8 Lbs - 730 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:32] <exec> 08└─I use 1Gbps wired everyday too. WiFi is flaky and slow. In theory 1Gbps WiFi is possible in practice not if there are other people trying to use it too. Copying gigabytes of stuff over WiFi takes longer than I wish to wait. USB A is also a required. Anyway the Blade Pro seems to have the ports I wan...
[08:10:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheLink [332] (Score:2) 02 - 06​AI Expert: Super-Smart Cars Are Just a Glorious Beginning - 0 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org 1ff6 (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:48] <exec> 08└─
[08:11:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:GIGO - 06How to Solve "The Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever" - 556 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:31] <exec> 08└─Well.... okay. I'll tell you what I know. The Civil War had nothing to do with government mistrust, nor disenfranchisement *with* government. So excluding the Civil War, there has been no other time in history. Even during the Civil Rights marches and times of nationwide general strikes, there has n...
[08:12:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Enabler of Corruption - 06AT&T Poised to Buy Time Warner for $85.4 Billion - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:51] <exec> 08└─And that's how you enable political corruption. When you chose to treat them as if they are all equally venal, then there is no incentive for them to do anything but live down to the worst expectations.
[08:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Is it illegal? - 06‘We Have Your Daughter’: a Virtual Kidnapping and a Mother’s Five Hours of Hell - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:41] <exec> 08└─The things you claim are harmful are not actually truly harmful at all.
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[09:09:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02No bias in THAT article. - 06Columbia and FARC Talking Again - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:09:32] <exec> 08└─Lol.
[09:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:more hard selling - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 447 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:09:50] <exec> 08└─> Because human society will not make the rudimentary changes necessary to adapt to climate change? The new research calculated the highest tolerable "wet-bulb" temperature that humans can withstand. "The wet-bulb limit is basically the point at which one would overheat even if they were naked in t...
[09:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:European crashers - 06Did 40-Year-Old Viking Experiment Discover Life on Mars? - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:10:02] <exec> 08└─Yeah sure, because NASA never lost a Mars probe …
[09:10:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yet another "expert" turned fortune teller - 06​AI Expert: Super-Smart Cars Are Just a Glorious Beginning - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:10:48] <exec> 08└─We're still looking for your submission ...
[09:10:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Doctor/Nurse. Also, alternative method for cars. - 06​AI Expert: Super-Smart Cars Are Just a Glorious Beginning - 3056 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:10:54] <exec> 08└─The majority of fux-ups are due to the human element. And with the personnel excised thanks to automation, you will have more time available from fewer but more competent medical staff who can use the extra time to keep themselves up to date on the latest techniques and technologies, and reviewing m...
[09:11:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:2) 02Re:incentive - 06How to Solve "The Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever" - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:11:56] <exec> 08└─does posting a solution earn one a kiss from martyb or janrinok?
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[10:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Better winner - 06Columbia and FARC Talking Again - 410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:09:38] <exec> 08└─There may be some less then honorable things in this man's career or even in the peace deal. But this man has at least achieved something many previous peace price winners have not; ceased ongoing hostilities. While a long lasting ceasefire is not yet full pledged peace, it's a lot better than what'...
[10:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03purple_cobra [1435] (Score:1) 02Re:Better winner - 06Columbia and FARC Talking Again - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:09:40] <exec> 08└─I have to agree. There's enough death in the world already, so actively trying to stop more happening is a laudable act. While a lot of people inside and outside of Colombia won't agree with an amnesty for past crimes, it's the lesser of two evils if not having that amnesty means more people die as...
[10:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:There are No Shortcuts - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:09:54] <exec> 08└─Well, then just genetically engineer vacuum crops. ;-)
[10:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:more hard selling - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:01] <exec> 08└─Ah, but khallow isn't poor or a farmer, so he won't care. And the food, of course, comes from the local supermarket, so who needs farmers?
[10:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Re:Preview - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:04] <exec> 08└─blacklivesmatter
[10:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03marknmel [1243] (Score:1) 02It came from outer space - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:10:07] <exec> 08└─"Did you know, Putnam, more people are murdered at ninety-two degrees Fahrenheit than any other temperature? I read an article once - lower temperatures, people are easy-going. Over ninety two, it's too hot to move. But just ninety-two, people get irritable." - Sherrif Matt Warren http://m.imdb.com
[10:10:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Amazing Desktop Levels of performance... - 06Razer's New Blade Pro: Desktop Performance in 0.9 Inches and 8 Lbs - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:31] <exec> 08└─All great except that desktop is generally tucked behind your desk while laptop is in your lap, on your bed etc. where all the theoretical outlets are blocked and the keyboard becomes a frying pan (or brittle if it made of plastic).
[10:10:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Amazing Desktop Levels of performance... - 06Razer's New Blade Pro: Desktop Performance in 0.9 Inches and 8 Lbs - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:32] <exec> 08└─I do the same, with one of the System76 laptops. It's a very minor compromise.
[10:10:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03WizardFusion [498] (Score:2) 02Windows 10 - 06Razer's New Blade Pro: Desktop Performance in 0.9 Inches and 8 Lbs - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:10:49] <exec> 08└─Shame it comes with Windows 10. As long as it has drivers for other OSes I would be happier.
[10:11:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02YHWH - 06How to Solve "The Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever" - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:11:57] <exec> 08└─You're missing a consonant [wikipedia.org]. 2000 (The vowels are unknown.)
[10:12:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:incentive - 06How to Solve "The Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever" - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:12:17] <exec> 08└─Only if you are very unlucky...
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[11:09:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02If they find that extremely careless worker... - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:09:32] <exec> 08└─...he could be Hillary's postmaster-general.
[11:09:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Bringing cholera to London... - 06Studies that Intentionally Infect Humans with Pathogens are Increasing - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:09:39] <exec> 08└─...is like bringing the proverbial coal to Newcastle.
[11:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03barrahome [3580] (Score:1) 02Big mistake - 06Columbia and FARC Talking Again - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:09:50] <exec> 08└─it's COLOMBIA not COLUMBIA.
[11:11:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02crossroads - 06Experts Claim They Might Have 'Solved' the Bermuda Triangle Mystery - 833 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:11:34] <exec> 08└─The Bermuda Triangle is, and has been for a few hundred years, one of the busiest marine "crossroads" in the world. Not THE busiest, but one of the busiest. Traffic flows through the triangle like few other places. Just like a crossroads on land, you can expect more accidents than on some lonely str...
[11:11:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:GIGO - 06How to Solve "The Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever" - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:11:59] <exec> 08└─"I will vote for a fascist criminal who bribed her way out of judiciary because the other guy is celebrity who gets more sex than me." - edIII (791)
[11:12:07] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] 022000 too clever for his own good - 06How to Solve "The Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever" - 1021 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:12:08] <exec> 08└─Smullyan's problems seem, to me, to be too clever for his own good. I'm not sure they're even deterministically solvable. I have seen others of his (not this one) where his given solutions are contrived. He typically solves his own puzzle with elaborate and confusing truth tables. Frankly, this stuf...
[11:13:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Enabler of Corruption - 06AT&T Poised to Buy Time Warner for $85.4 Billion - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:13:21] <exec> 08└─The entire nation sticking their heads up their asses and thinking happy happy thoughts wouldn't make a shit bit of difference to those who seek power. I have a whole bag of clues here, would you like one?
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[12:09:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03fraxinus-tree [5590] (Score:1) 02What kind of trouble? - 06Revisiting the Carna Botnet - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:09:35] <exec> 08└─I wonder what kind of trouble the author went in? Anyway, a good read and a good pile of data to analyze that I didn't noticed.
[12:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Thankfully rare - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:09:43] <exec> 08└─About 500,000 people work for the USPS. That there'd be few enough duds that they're launching a major investigation immediately after learning about this guy is actually an indication that there are probably about 499,000 other people just doing their job, that you never think about because the sys...
[12:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I do the same thing - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:09:46] <exec> 08└─with my mail after it's delivered.
[12:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02It's just free SPAM filtering. - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:09:48] <exec> 08└─They're still working on the QA and improving the algorithm, but anyone who own a mailbox can tell you they're over 60% true-positives.
[12:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Better winner - 06Columbia and FARC Talking Again - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:05] <exec> 08└─How come Santos isn't sharing the Nobel prize with the FARK leader?
[12:10:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:That's why the US military - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:18] <exec> 08└─As true today as it was 20 years ago: http://www.dailymotion.com [dailymotion.com] If it's all the same to you, I'll just tap along to the strange rhythms in my head...
[12:10:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:Genetic Engineering will Save Us - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:26] <exec> 08└─Who are you calling scraffy-looking?
[12:10:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:3, Insightful) 02No one really knows. - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:10:36] <exec> 08└─The only substance to this article is the admission "No one really knows."
[12:11:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:2) 02Re:Amazing Desktop Levels of performance... - 06Razer's New Blade Pro: Desktop Performance in 0.9 Inches and 8 Lbs - 718 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:11:02] <exec> 08└─You mean - the box is hidden under the desk with the vent outlets all facing the wall and your laptop is out in the open-air with vents on all sides? Doing it on soft furnishings that block vents is indeed stupid but so would be resting your desktop on your bed. Literally, not an issue for anyone wi...
[12:11:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:One of these things is not like the other - 06​AI Expert: Super-Smart Cars Are Just a Glorious Beginning - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:11:36] <exec> 08└─they are actually capable of a lot more
[12:11:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:AI "Expert" thinks AI is awesome.... - 06​AI Expert: Super-Smart Cars Are Just a Glorious Beginning - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:11:42] <exec> 08└─otherwise they wouldn't be leaving in droves
[12:11:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:AI "Expert" thinks AI is awesome.... - 06​AI Expert: Super-Smart Cars Are Just a Glorious Beginning - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:11:44] <exec> 08└─AI ... will outpace all of us because they can learn faster
[12:12:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03jsdfk [6384] (Score:1) 02SPOILER ALERT : solution - 06How to Solve "The Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever" - 3609 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:12:59] <exec> 08└─Disclaimer : could be wrong We have 3 gods T (True), F (False) and R (Random). As we don't know which god is which, let's assign identifiers to them : A, B and C. The gods answer in their own language, where ja and da mean yes and no, not necessarily in this order. Problem overview ----------------...
[12:16:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03jman [6085] (Score:1) 02Yet Another Mailer Script - 06Ask Soylent: Sending Email at a Measured Pace - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:16:06] <exec> 08└─phpmailer - https://github.com [github.com] - supports rate limiting.
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[13:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Harvest the teeth - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:09:36] <exec> 08└─of the poachers
[13:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03riT-k0MA [88] (Score:2) 02This is about a reduction in poaching - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 683 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:09:38] <exec> 08└─The problem with a total ban on ivory is it drives the price up. The price eventually becomes so high that the reward from poaching an elephant for it's ivory becomes irresistible. Thus ivory is poached. The thought behind unbanning ivory is that black-market prices will drop to the point where it...
[13:09:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Am I missing something? - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:09:40] <exec> 08└─The law of supply and demand should solve this, no? Harvest at a sustainable rate and charge as much as the market will bear and supply should equal demand. Sounds like they're not charging enough. Take the harvest and auction it off three or four times a year and this should balance out very quickl...
[13:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:What kind of trouble? - 06Revisiting the Carna Botnet - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:09:49] <exec> 08└─The Snowden kind of trouble, but enforced by corporations instead of governments. This is info that needs to be out there; without awareness business as usual will continue.
[13:09:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Re:If they find that extremely careless worker... - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:09:58] <exec> 08└─The mail was to be delivered to a mountain? [wikipedia.org]
[13:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:I do the same thing - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:02] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optoutprescreen.com [wikipedia.org] Soylent News Poetry Time again: "5-7-5 master race" Rip up my junkmail J D Power dollar bill deli ignore tape
[13:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02math time - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:10:05] <exec> 08└─a dozen bins' worth of mail.
[13:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonymousCowardNoMore [5416] (Score:2) 02Obligatory Futurama - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:10:08] <exec> 08└─Too much work. Let's burn it and *say* we dumped it in the sewer. —Bender
[13:11:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:European crashers - 06Did 40-Year-Old Viking Experiment Discover Life on Mars? - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:06] <exec> 08└─"lithobraking technology demonstrator" Mars sucks. Too much atmosphere screws up forward facing rocket engines and too little atmosphere to get away with aerobraking and parachutes like on the earth. Should terraform the damn place by comet bombardment to build up the atmosphere or install space ele...
[13:11:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Viking - 06Did 40-Year-Old Viking Experiment Discover Life on Mars? - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:11:11] <exec> 08└─Did anyone else read the headline and at first think "what, the Vikings already did Mars experiments?"
[13:11:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Viking - 06Did 40-Year-Old Viking Experiment Discover Life on Mars? - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:13] <exec> 08└─They did discover life in Canada. GD illegal alien Danes pouring across the border in 1000 AD just to get that glorious free Canadian health care. Probably rioted to get the local shops to stop selling poutine and sell lutefisk instead.
[13:11:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Thin & Light" can KMMFA. - 06Razer's New Blade Pro: Desktop Performance in 0.9 Inches and 8 Lbs - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:44] <exec> 08└─"How often do you really need to do presentations on your laptop with someone who has no WiFi streaming projection system?" How often do you do presentations? It is pretty unusual to find a conference room that has wireless video. VGA is standard and will likely be for a long time to come.
[13:12:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:GIGO - 06How to Solve "The Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever" - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:12:53] <exec> 08└─Yeah, because there are only two candidates you can vote for. Oh, wait …
[13:13:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:YHWH - 06How to Solve "The Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever" - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:00] <exec> 08└─Eyahouveihau!
[13:13:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:too clever for his own good - 06How to Solve "The Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever" - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:04] <exec> 08└─Ugh, another Internet "expert."
[13:13:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Was anti-semetic joke needed here? - 06DARPA Transfers Space Surveillance Telescope to USAF Space Command - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:48] <exec> 08└─Seriously. That just seemed uncalled for in a post that has something semi-useful to say.
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[14:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score:2) 02Re:Harvest the teeth - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:47] <exec> 08└─You're proposing to stop the supply source of ivory - which I agree. I also propose to stop the demand for ivory, by educating the goddamn Chinese who think consuming it gives them a hard-on. It's a less immediate, but more sustainable solution.
[14:09:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03riT-k0MA [88] 02This is about a reduction in poaching - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 683 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:09:48] <exec> 08└─The problem with a total ban on ivory is it drives the price up. The price eventually becomes so high that the reward from poaching an elephant for it's ivory becomes irresistible. Thus ivory is poached. The thought behind unbanning ivory is that black-market prices will drop to the point where it...
[14:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score:2) 02Re:This is about a reduction in poaching - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:50] <exec> 08└─There are giant stockpiles of ivory sitting in warehouses, waiting to be burned. If slowly released onto the market at a slightly lower price than the black market, not only could the ivory stockpiles become a lucrative source of income to a country, but poaching of elephants should drop drastically...
[14:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03riT-k0MA [88] (Score:2) 02Re:This is about a reduction in poaching - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 495 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:52] <exec> 08└─The idea is that the stockpiles could be used to let the elephant population recover without being poached. The problem with elephants is they tend to over-populate an area surprisingly rapidly. When that happens, they are culled.   A few decades ago you could buy canned elephant meat (as pet foo...
[14:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03riT-k0MA [88] (Score:2) 02Re:This is about a reduction in poaching - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:54] <exec> 08└─I should add that a female elephant's fertility's linked to fat levels. If a female elephant's fat levels drop below a certain level (I think it was 30%), she becomes temporarily infertile. Once fat levels reach or exceed the minimum amount, she becomes fertile again. The problem with this is that...
[14:09:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Am I missing something? - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:58] <exec> 08└─The law of supply and demand should solve this, no? Harvest at a sustainable rate and charge as much as the market will bear and supply should equal demand. The problem is that supply already meets demand, only it's through an illegal channel. Your legal trade will always be supplemented by the ille...
[14:09:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Am I missing something? - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 1226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:00] <exec> 08└─Here's what you're missing: The Tragedy of the commons [wikipedia.org]. It's an issue that's been studied since at least the 1830's. In this case, the population of wild elephants isn't owned by anybody, and there's no specific price placed on killing them for their ivory. That means that what contr...
[14:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score:2) 02Re:Am I missing something? - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:02] <exec> 08└─The cod off of the east coast of the US and Canada was also on the way out. They just weren't being taken at sustainable levels. Before that, Blue Pike in the Great Lakes went extinct.
[14:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Thankfully rare - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:21] <exec> 08└─Shut up you CTR shill. This is proof of the USPS's disgusting corruption. They don't care about the little guy, they take all that money for themselves and only spend 5% of it actually delivering the mail. The only reason they sent those investigators after this guy is because wikileaks released the...
[14:10:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Thankfully rare - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:22] <exec> 08└─Poe's Law [wikipedia.org] strikes: I honestly can't tell whether you're serious.
[14:10:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Dumb, just dumb. - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 698 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:29] <exec> 08└─It blows my mind that anybody would possibly even think they could get away with dumping mail like that. The USPS takes their deliveries pretty damn seriously. Unlike "modern" electronic communication methods, it is outright illegal to fuck with mail delivery. People use snail mail for incredibly im...
[14:10:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:2) 02Re:Big mistake - 06Columbia and FARC Talking Again - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:48] <exec> 08└─Actually it's called FARC House Records Club now, but you can still get 7 albums for $5.99 and two more at half price.
[14:12:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Windows 10 - 06Razer's New Blade Pro: Desktop Performance in 0.9 Inches and 8 Lbs - 464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:07] <exec> 08└─I almost feel bad for the guy who had to write the paragraph about Windows 10: With the Razer Blade Pro and Windows 10, you can start from the desktop you’ve always known. Windows 10 is the best combination of Windows – with lots of similarities to Windows 7 including the Start menu. Enjoy acce...
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[15:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Transitional Technique - 06Greeks May Have Influenced Terracotta Army - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:43] <exec> 08└─Just last week in Canada a key missing link [blogspot.ca] in the transition between the late greco-roman statuary and the terracota style was discovered.
[15:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Harvest the teeth - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:54] <exec> 08└─Or flood the market with fake "ivory" which is doped with something that causes long-term erectile dysfunction.
[15:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:Harvest the teeth - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:55] <exec> 08└─educating the goddamn Chinese who think consuming it gives them a hard-on.
[15:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:This is about a reduction in poaching - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:01] <exec> 08└─I take it that you didn't read TFA. There have been sales of ivory stockpiles, which didn't stop the poaching, and the demand far outweighs any stockpiles. Furthermore, the amount of ivory that can be harvested from dead elephants and population culling is basically insignificant compared to the dem...
[15:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:This is about a reduction in poaching - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 447 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:03] <exec> 08└─This isn't like drugs where people can conjure up a near infinite supply of the stuff, the limit here is on the actual animals available to get the ivory from. Legalization isn't going to do anything about that supply. At least not in the positive direction. The demand has pretty much always exceede...
[15:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2, Disagree) 02Re:Am I missing something? - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:08] <exec> 08└─it'll just drive the price down a bit for both, and certainly not enough to kill off poaching
[15:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Am I missing something? - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 517 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:10] <exec> 08└─And if you read TFA, you might remember that the authors conclude that sustainable harvesting is not a realistic solution. The study was done in response to people claiming that sustainable harvesting would be a solution. Sustainable harvesting could be part of a solution, but there are not enough e...
[15:10:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Am I missing something? - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:14] <exec> 08└─I suspect that this regulating effect cannot occur because they will not permit elephants to be owned.
[15:10:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03tisI [5866] (Score:1) 02Obvious - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:16] <exec> 08└─As an Alaskan, If the Donald gets elected, we will gift him with a gem encrusted gold plated oosik as his official scepter. That's kind of like ivory.
[15:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Thankfully rare - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:36] <exec> 08└─Since there's no mention of Wikileaks in the summary or first article link, I'm betting on joke. Although of course that doesn't eliminate the possibility of a "ha ha only serious [catb.org]."
[15:10:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Thankfully rare - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:38] <exec> 08└─Come on. Did wikileaks release this video? There's your answer.
[15:10:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Thankfully rare - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:40] <exec> 08└─For all we know, this brave hero could have been only throwing out pre-payed junkmail.
[15:10:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:math time - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:46] <exec> 08└─I have been trying to report phishing spam that may have fooled me if it was not sent to the wrong address. The spam reporting e-mail addresses I have been instructed to use bounces it because it contains a url on their real-time block list. I am seriously considering sending the spam sample by snai...
[15:10:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Dumb, just dumb. - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:50] <exec> 08└─People use snail mail for incredibly important stuff. Failure to delver things like legal notices or even just bills can have very bad consequences.
[15:10:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03tisI [5866] (Score:1) 02Fitting - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:52] <exec> 08└─As much as my mail being lost by those assholes while in their possession, now it all makes sense.
[15:10:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:2) 02Junk mail? - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:54] <exec> 08└─What I want to know is: was it all junk mail? Was a single piece of it something that actually needed to get to its destination? Of course without the junk mail industry buying postage the post office might implode...
[15:10:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcross [4009] (Score:2) 02Re:Junk mail? - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:57] <exec> 08└─That's why the postal service has a strong incentive to crack down on this sort of thing. After all, their customers aren't paying to have their advertisements delivered to a ditch :).
[15:11:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:more hard selling - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:40] <exec> 08└─I'm not interesting in this fantasy crap, but a preponderance of evidence. Come up with that and then we'll talk. In the meantime, exaggerated harm based on exaggerated climate models is not a serious argument.
[15:11:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:more hard selling - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:42] <exec> 08└─> I'm not interesting in this fantasy crap, but a preponderance of evidence. And yet you are a case study in fantasy crap. Any evidence is dismissed with extreme contortions of logic.
[15:11:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:more hard selling - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:44] <exec> 08└─Not relevant if human society becomes wealthy enough to have universal air conditioning by then or simply just not live in such places. Centuries would be more than adequate to adapt to such conditions. And let us noted once again exaggerated harm based on exaggerated and untested models is not evid...
[15:11:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:more hard selling - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 1334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:46] <exec> 08└─That's pretty extreme and misleading. They are specifically talking about 100% humidity areas combined with new higher temperatures. At one point in my work life i was drinking 15 liters of water during a 12 hour shift and then even more afterwards. It was 110F in the shade. I could cook a cup o' no...
[15:11:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02wait - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:11:53] <exec> 08└─wasn't C02 good for plants? weren't plants good for food? http://climate.virginia.edu [virginia.edu] and wasn't our financial system mathematically destined to go bust anyway?
[15:12:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:-ate - 06Did 40-Year-Old Viking Experiment Discover Life on Mars? - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:07] <exec> 08└─Maybe he's saying that formate and perchlorate should actually be formoate and perchloroate? Not sure... *squints at Wikipedia articles, trying to remember 7th grade science*
[15:12:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcross [4009] (Score:2) 02Re:Viking - 06Did 40-Year-Old Viking Experiment Discover Life on Mars? - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:12] <exec> 08└─Yep.
[15:12:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Viking - 06Did 40-Year-Old Viking Experiment Discover Life on Mars? - 427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:14] <exec> 08└─Wasn't my first interpretation, but yeah. Seems like I keep running into sentences lately of the "Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana" form that require me to go back and reparse it to figure out what the verb is. Sometimes zealous comma use helps. Or in this case, maybe italicize "V...
[15:12:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03 (Score:2) 02Re:Amazing Desktop Levels of performance... - 06Razer's New Blade Pro: Desktop Performance in 0.9 Inches and 8 Lbs - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:27] <exec> 08└─I don't know which games have you played on your 8 year old gaming laptop but I know not a single person whose gaming laptops survived 3 years without frying their palm.
[15:12:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:2) 02Re:Amazing Desktop Levels of performance... - 06Razer's New Blade Pro: Desktop Performance in 0.9 Inches and 8 Lbs - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:29] <exec> 08└─One lasted five years (hinges broke because of weak construction). The other lasted three. And on this latest one I've played through GTA V and the Batman's from beginning to end.
[15:13:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] 02Fuck No - 06How to Solve "The Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever" - 49 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:46] <exec> 08└─" Are there any Soylentils up to the challenge? "
[15:13:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:GIGO - 06How to Solve "The Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever" - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:58] <exec> 08└─Oh I am sorry, I thought this more than yet another 'lets bash a successful man who isn't me' thread.
[15:14:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Meh - 06How to Solve "The Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever" - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:15] <exec> 08└─I suspect the solution involves asking the gods themselves about what they think the other gods would say.
[15:15:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Enabler of Corruption - 06AT&T Poised to Buy Time Warner for $85.4 Billion - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:29] <exec> 08└─Not sure if you're intentionally making a hypocrisy joke here or not. You call him a narcissist then in the very next breath trot out "sheeple," which implies you think you're one of the tiny sane minority.
[15:15:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Enabler of Corruption - 06AT&T Poised to Buy Time Warner for $85.4 Billion - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:30] <exec> 08└─He's not saying you should ostrich about it; you should establish some metric for evilness and do what you can to punish the more-evil more. Wrong is still wrong but more wrong is worse.
[15:15:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:HDS - 06AT&T Poised to Buy Time Warner for $85.4 Billion - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:48] <exec> 08└─CNN's yellow journalism tried to say this is a 'vertical' merger and not a horizontal one which
[15:16:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Seriously - 06AT&T Poised to Buy Time Warner for $85.4 Billion - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:16:06] <exec> 08└─Zombie Teddy Roosevelt for President 2020!
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[16:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Transitional Technique - 06Greeks May Have Influenced Terracotta Army - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:48] <exec> 08└─The first step to Chiastianity. [twimg.com]
[16:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02So China mass-produced previously artisanal craft - 06Greeks May Have Influenced Terracotta Army - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:09:49] <exec> 08└─of western origin. Was it stamped by a misspelled brand name by any chance?
[16:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score:2) 02Re:Harvest the teeth - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:02] <exec> 08└─Cane toads. Australian cane toads will give you a hard-on that lasts for hours. Spread the word.
[16:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:This is about a reduction in poaching - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:07] <exec> 08└─Sounds like humans.
[16:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Am I missing something? - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:18] <exec> 08└─Perhaps bovines could be genetically engineered to grow ivory.
[16:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Am I missing something? - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:20] <exec> 08└─No, regulating effects cannot occur because this is frikin' Africa.
[16:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03julian [6003] (Score:2) 02Re:Am I missing something? - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:22] <exec> 08└─Harvest at a sustainable rate
[16:10:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score:2) 02No. - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 449 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:25] <exec> 08└─This is wrong. It is easy to harvest tusks without killing the animal, this is done all the time. The Tusks do not grow back, but the animal can continue to run around having babies. And that is the definition of sustainable, there is no reason any amount of ivory harvesting should effect the popula...
[16:10:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:No. - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:28] <exec> 08└─If that's true, then the government should run a corporate contract to harvest tusks for a small percentage of the profit under supervision. The surviving elephants won't be at risk and the harvesters will be able to operate in the open with a respectable "we save elephants from poachers while makin...
[16:10:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Thankfully rare - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:51] <exec> 08└─If that's the case, how will we ever be able to renew our extended automobile warranties?
[16:11:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02"no one had an obligation to accept the offer" - 06Studies that Intentionally Infect Humans with Pathogens are Increasing - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:10] <exec> 08└─Ahh yes, money.... Making the immoral into the moral ever day.
[16:11:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"no one had an obligation to accept the offer" - 06Studies that Intentionally Infect Humans with Pathogens are Increasing - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:12] <exec> 08└─Ahh yes, money.... Making the immoral into the moral ever day.
[16:11:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No one really knows. - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:59] <exec> 08└─Yup. Lots of graphs showing correlation, no talk about causation.
[16:12:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:No one really knows. - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:00] <exec> 08└─So you think violence might cause global warming instead?
[16:12:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:wait - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:03] <exec> 08└─> wasn't C02 good for plants? Only if CO2 is the limiting factor. No amount of CO2 is going to help plants grow during a drought. Same thing with insufficient nutrients in the soil, or not enough light due too much prolonged cloud-cover.
[16:12:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:2) 02No Duh - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:12:06] <exec> 08└─We already know this. Compare cold states like Minnesota to hot states like Florida. Compare cold countries like Sweden to hot countries like Egypt. Cherry picking you say? I don't know [wikipedia.org] what you're talking about... [wikipedia.org]
[16:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Not enough scare quotes in headline - 06Experts Claim They Might Have 'Solved' the Bermuda Triangle Mystery - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:42] <exec> 08└─I think "Claim" and "Might" would be rather redundant, but okay. Having the whole world explained is boring. Leaving some room for the supernatural and unexplained is a lot more fun :)
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[17:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02"Tor users are often not seen in postive..." - 06Anonymity of Tor Users and Wikipedia Editors - 826 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:41] <exec> 08└─Fucking duh? Anonymity can be a powerful tool for doing the right thing: anonymous whistle-blowers, anonymous ballots, or anonymous donations. But, like any powerful tool, it is often used by tools. And it inherently robs trust. If a close, lifelong friend of yours wanted to know your bank account n...
[17:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Tor users are often not seen in postive..." - 06Anonymity of Tor Users and Wikipedia Editors - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:43] <exec> 08└─Are you saying anons could be dirty trolls, cybercriminals, and pedophiles? How dare you!
[17:09:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Tor users are often not seen in postive..." - 06Anonymity of Tor Users and Wikipedia Editors - 891 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:45] <exec> 08└─It goes both ways, maybe someone you know quite well had their account hacked and they ask for your address and phone # cause they "lost it". Is it really your friend? Now you just got your identity stolen... Anonymity is important, and allowing any argument against is along the same lines as restr...
[17:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Noodle fight 2.0? - 06Greeks May Have Influenced Terracotta Army - 448 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:56] <exec> 08└─It can be hard to know the true origin of something. "First found at" is not necessarily the same as "first created at". Like fossils, the vast majority of activities are never recorded (or at least we are unlikely to find the record). Thus, scientists have to use "first found at" as a rough proxy....
[17:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Unsurprising finding - 06Greeks May Have Influenced Terracotta Army - 593 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:58] <exec> 08└─The ancient Greeks certainly had contact with the Middle East and India, thanks in large part to Alexander the Great's temporary takeover of what had been Persia. So it's not too surprising that there's evidence for some Greek influence on Xinjiang province, which is adjacent to eastern end of what...
[17:10:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Harvest the teeth - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:13] <exec> 08└─1/5 Stars: Penis is definitely bigger but i'd describe it as swollen or puffy and not hard. Don't buy from this dealer, it obviously isn't legit cane toad!
[17:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Harvest the teeth - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:14] <exec> 08└─Separating the Chinese from their superstitions is like separating American teenagers from their cellphones - you might make it happen in 2% of the population, but you'll never get them all.
[17:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:This is about a reduction in poaching - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:20] <exec> 08└─If a female elephant's fat levels drop below a certain level (I think it was 30%), she becomes temporarily infertile.
[17:10:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:This is about a reduction in poaching - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:25] <exec> 08└─This isn't like drugs where people can conjure up a near infinite supply of the stuff
[17:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Am I missing something? - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 1249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:34] <exec> 08└─Wiped out in '92. for a couple years boaters could buy cheap fishing boats in general new england area. Seriously fast collapse, from a real business in the 80s to its done, everyones unemployed. Water is empty, bye bye. That was the "Atlantic cod" you might be thinking of the "Greenland" or "North...
[17:10:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03driven [6295] (Score:1) 02Poison - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 933 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:43] <exec> 08└─http://www.economist.com/blogs/schumpeter/2013/10/business-conservation [economist.com] Excerpt: One idea being suggested is to inject rhino horn with poison that could make those that consume it seriously ill. That is what a game reserve in South Africa has done. And the Humane Society Internationa...
[17:10:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:2) 02Mammoth tusks - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:45] <exec> 08└─Not quite the article I was searching for which mentioned millions of tons of it coming to the surface now, but apparently could put a large dent in the Elephant tusk trade if properly managed. http://www.pri.org
[17:10:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score:2) 02Get with it - 06Revisiting the Carna Botnet - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:55] <exec> 08└─We don't call them botnets anymore. It's called the IoT now. /sarcasm
[17:11:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02FARC has way more support then 10%. - 06Columbia and FARC Talking Again - 733 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:11:45] <exec> 08└─The 10 congressional seats (out of 102 total) were a compromise. In the 37% turn-out vote, half were definitely pro-FARC while the other half had a few FARC extremists that don't want to sign a peace treaty without going into early elections. The coalition party wanted to de-revolutionize PARC by gi...
[17:12:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Genetic Engineering will Save Us - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:07] <exec> 08└─Crops getting less water? Engineer them to need less.
[17:12:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:more hard selling - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:14] <exec> 08└─And yet you are a case study in fantasy crap. Any evidence is dismissed with extreme contortions of logic.
[17:12:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:more hard selling - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 977 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:18] <exec> 08└─I'll happily agree that predicting the future is hard. There are all sorts of things that COULD happen, particularly when it comes to econ 5681 omics. We can never predict what sorts of opportunities may emerge economically. That said, I'm NOT as inclined to go along with the skepticism about climat...
[17:13:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Amazing Desktop Levels of performance... - 06Razer's New Blade Pro: Desktop Performance in 0.9 Inches and 8 Lbs - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:03] <exec> 08└─You mean - the box is hidden under the desk with the vent outlets all facing the wall and your laptop is out in the open-air with vents on all sides?
[17:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Thin & Light" can KMMFA. - 06Razer's New Blade Pro: Desktop Performance in 0.9 Inches and 8 Lbs - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:22] <exec> 08└─I entirely agree with what you said. However, I will note that the people who are willing to spend over $3500 for a laptop in this day-and-age are not ones to balk at spending another $100 for the different connectors and peripherals needed to make it work.
[17:14:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Huh? - 06How to Solve "The Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever" - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:14:58] <exec> 08└─What happens if you ask "how many tree frogs are you?" Nein!
[17:15:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fnord666 [652] (Score:2) 02Oxygen Deprivation Could Relieve Jet Lag? - 06Oxygen Deprivation Could Relieve Jet Lag - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:15:25] <exec> 08└─Oxygen Deprivation Could Relieve Jet Lag?
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[18:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Tor users are often not seen in postive..." - 06Anonymity of Tor Users and Wikipedia Editors - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:53] <exec> 08└─Yes, anonymity breeds distrust. And non-anonymity breeds repression. What was your point? Removing one brings the other, openly or in underhanded ways. Neither is desirable in pure form. You do *not* get a choice between "good" and "bad". It's not about choosing one or the other, you'd be(come) an e...
[18:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:"Tor users are often not seen in postive..." - 06Anonymity of Tor Users and Wikipedia Editors - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:54] <exec> 08└─My point is that it's impossible to fix the distrust of tor users given that many people will use tor with the express intent of vandalizing wikipedia.
[18:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02pissed in a rattlesnake's mouth - 06Anonymity of Tor Users and Wikipedia Editors - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:09:56] <exec> 08└─he backed away but i still kept pissin!
[18:09:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Wikipedia needs a "stable version" system - 06Anonymity of Tor Users and Wikipedia Editors - 3806 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:09:58] <exec> 08└─I'm all for allowing options for anonymity, but the fact is that Wikipedia's system for anonymous editing is severely broken. Back in the early days, Wikipedia had loads of anonymous contributions that grew the resource exponentially and made great advances. Now, however, the number of active editor...
[18:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Sounds pretty much... - 06Anonymity of Tor Users and Wikipedia Editors - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:00] <exec> 08└─Like Linux, udev, systemd, etc all are being run today. It seems to be the prevalent model across industries in fact, including those exact reference books you mentioned above. I mean how much of college coursebooks have exactly those kinds of changes yearly in order to force the purchase of new boo...
[18:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Unsurprising finding - 06Greeks May Have Influenced Terracotta Army - 786 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:12] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I discussed this last week when there was this "shocking" revelation of ancient Roman coins found in Japan. Personally, I find it shocking that so many media sources are acting like Marco Polo was the first contact between East and West. (E.g., the Christian Science Monitor article title actua...
[18:10:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03julian [6003] (Score:2) 02Re:Obvious - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:52] <exec> 08└─It's also kind of like a penis; fitting since he's such a knob
[18:10:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03julian [6003] (Score:2) 02Re:Mammoth tusks - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:58] <exec> 08└─I'm amazed there are enough preserved mammoths being found to even make this an issue. I thought they were pretty rare. Apparently they're just tripping over them in Siberia. Thanks, global warming!
[18:11:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Thankfully rare - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:25] <exec> 08└─Is there any other kind of mail anymore? Package ff6 s I care about, but the mail is all junk mail. I shred it so the kids can use it as bedding for their guinea pigs. For me it has no other use. I have read of people soaking it in water and pressing it into log-shaped molds to burn in the fireplace...
[18:11:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Entropy [4228] (Score:2) 02Was it junk mail? - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:11:38] <exec> 08└─Because seriously.. "Current Resident" mail should be dumped in a ditch.
[18:11:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Was it junk mail? - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:39] <exec> 08└─First put a bullet in the head and one in the chest.
[18:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Lefties Left Out - 06Razer's New Blade Pro: Desktop Performance in 0.9 Inches and 8 Lbs - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:41] <exec> 08└─As usual.
[18:15:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score:2) 02Re:Huh? - 06How to Solve "The Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever" - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:15:22] <exec> 08└─In that case, the knight will say “ni”!
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[19:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:4, Interesting) 02the root of politics - 06Cheran: The Town That Threw Out Police, Politicians and Gangsters - 633 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:09:46] <exec> 08└─Politics come from POLIS, Greek for city. A city is about the biggest manageable unit for citizen to express their opinion. When you go to nation or confederation or world government, representatives get so powerful that they can screw citizen over. Note, I don't imply places like the medieval commu...
[19:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:the root of politics - 06Cheran: The Town That Threw Out Police, Politicians and Gangsters - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:47] <exec> 08└─> Also I think they charged less taxes. Wishful thinking. between the bread tax, the bridge tax, the salt tax, the harvest tax, the Church tax and a few other annoyances, those huge castles weren't only there to shield the rich from foreign people...
[19:09:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Tor users are often not seen in postive..." - 06Anonymity of Tor Users and Wikipedia Editors - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:00] <exec> 08└─And the opposite of your point is that anonymity is a vital component of a free society. If Wikipedia doesn't want to deal with vandals, then it has to change its policy and require accounts in order to edit. Harder for mass abuse that way. But see, its up to each organization how to handle anon use...
[19:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Tor users are often not seen in postive..." - 06Anonymity of Tor Users and Wikipedia Editors - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:01] <exec> 08└─And non-anonymity breeds repression. This is what people do not understand. It 100% breeds it. One of my family members is a lawyer. They can in under 15-20 mins of work dig up a scary amount of data on you. With a few warrants they can get even more. With a bit of a search engine you can find a dec...
[19:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Unsurprising finding - 06Greeks May Have Influenced Terracotta Army - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:18] <exec> 08└─Fifth column, Fourth rank, sixth row, third from the left. Did that one myself. Nah, just kidding. Spent all my time in China at the royal observatories.
[19:10:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Timeo danaos ... - 06Greeks May Have Influenced Terracotta Army - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:19] <exec> 08└─So we have a dead guy surrounded by innocent-looking stuff the Greeks brought. Reminds me of some ancient story...
[19:10:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:This is about a reduction in poaching - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:45] <exec> 08└─There's nothing really crucial that depends on ivory or depends on ivory being real, anyway. It doesn't go into human heart replacement valves or helicopter jet engines or whatever.
[19:11:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03acp_sn [5254] (Score:2) 02there is a technological solution - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:06] <exec> 08└─create a synthetic ivory that is indistinguishable from the real thing flood the market with it so that buyers can no longer trust any black market dealer, the price will drop to the point where poaching is no longer economical
[19:11:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormreaver [5101] (Score:2) 02Re:Thankfully rare - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:34] <exec> 08└─I shred it so the kids can use it as bedding for their guinea pigs.
[19:11:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Thankfully rare - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:35] <exec> 08└─Is there any other kind of mail anymore?
[19:11:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:math time - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:42] <exec> 08└─the failure rate is about 1 in 100e6 or 1e-8? Thats a success rate of 7 nines? Seven nines reliability is pretty good for a data center or email in general.
[19:12:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:FARC has way more support then 10%. - 06Columbia and FARC Talking Again - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:14] <exec> 08└─de-revolutionize PARC Xerox: better copiers, plz! PARC: This is a computer that one person uses, we call it a personal computer. When you type on it, what you see is what you get. This way of working, we call a graphical user interface. The printer is like a copier, but with a laser. We connect thes...
[19:16:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Enabler of Corruption - 06AT&T Poised to Buy Time Warner for $85.4 Billion - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:16:39] <exec> 08└─Nah, zero tolerance is the only way to go.
[19:16:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Enabler of Corruption - 06AT&T Poised to Buy Time Warner for $85.4 Billion - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:16:40] <exec> 08└─inb4 you destroy all government ever
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[20:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Welcoming more competition ... - 06Start-Up Lucid Motors Launches With 300-Mile Plus Premium Electric Sedan - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:09:43] <exec> 08└─But now, you guys have to execute. Tesla didn't just deliver a souped-up go-kart. They changed the market with range, decent reliability (or responsiveness to teething issues), fast superchargers, live upgrades...
[20:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02Re:the root of politics - 06Cheran: The Town That Threw Out Police, Politicians and Gangsters - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:53] <exec> 08└─The description of the events sounds like mob rule. While better than the previous corrupt government I am skeptical for the future.
[20:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the root of politics - 06Cheran: The Town That Threw Out Police, Politicians and Gangsters - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:55] <exec> 08└─I prefer to call it "direct democracy."
[20:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:the root of politics - 06Cheran: The Town That Threw Out Police, Politicians and Gangsters - 1943 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:57] <exec> 08└─If people dressed nicer than their "class" then they were punished. Lower class couldn't own property so collectivism was really vertical collectivism. Which is probably the "culturally interesting" part for you. Normal individuals can't set trends or build castles so a society based on stronger ind...
[20:09:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Slow news day? - 06Cheran: The Town That Threw Out Police, Politicians and Gangsters - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:09:59] <exec> 08└─Why is this story running? It doesn't look like a slow day in the submission queue. [...] Led by local women [...]
[20:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Slow news day? - 06Cheran: The Town That Threw Out Police, Politicians and Gangsters - 587 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:02] <exec> 08└─Considering the metric shit ton of the "irrelevant to the rest of the world" US stories that run, I would put this in the middle of the pack to be honest. Bunch of villagers band together to overthrow corruption on a small scale and aren't immediately murdered by their government? Sound like news to...
[20:10:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:"Tor users are often not seen in postive..." - 06Anonymity of Tor Users and Wikipedia Editors - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:16] <exec> 08└─That's not the o 1ff6 pposite of my point, and my original point suggested that there is value to anonymity as a tool to society. So... are we actually disagreeing about something or are you just being disagreeable?
[20:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Wikipedia needs a "stable version" system - 06Anonymity of Tor Users and Wikipedia Editors - 1651 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:21] <exec> 08└─Wikipedia does have restrictions on certain articles that are meant to keep just anybody from editing. I checked 13 articles about African megafauna and 8 have semi-protection. In a graphical browser, there's a padlock icon toward the upper right of the page. "This article is semi-protected." -- htt...
[20:10:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:1) 02Re:Wikipedia needs a "stable version" system - 06Anonymity of Tor Users and Wikipedia Editors - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:24] <exec> 08└─Oops, that's 9 (not 8) out of the 13.
[20:10:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Noodle fight 2.0? - 06Greeks May Have Influenced Terracotta Army - 1207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:35] <exec> 08└─I've seen the terracotta warriors and they're remarkably sophisticated. It took a huge number of craftsmen many years to just create the sculptures. That doesn't include whatever time it took to develop the ability to create the sculptures. It's certainly possible that this is the first place they w...
[20:10:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Unsurprising finding - 06Greeks May Have Influenced Terracotta Army - 515 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:39] <exec> 08└─One point that really gets driven home when you study ancient history is that no, societies were not generally isolated from each other. It's entirely possible to traverse mountains, deserts, oceans, and other geographic features that you might think were show-stoppers using ancient technology. As a...
[20:10:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Unsurprising finding - 06Greeks May Have Influenced Terracotta Army - 414 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:41] <exec> 08└─Indeed, China is kind of an odd one because it's had prolonged periods where there was no contact with the outside world, but even there, those spells usually didn't last more than a couple hundred years and were only enforceable because they had a huge amount of wealth and a strong military. I'd be...
[20:10:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Harvest the teeth - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:59] <exec> 08└─exactly. let international hunters into africa to hunt poachers. radio tag all park personnel. anyone not emitting the proper signal is fair game. double check park ranger's radio tag every day. pay a bounty for each skull.
[20:11:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:This is about a reduction in poaching - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 519 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:10] <exec> 08└─That wouldn't solve any of these problems. A black market would still exist and chances are it would still be filled with poached ivory and it probably wouldn't make the problem go away. Also, you don't think that the rich folks buying a lot of this stuff can't find somebody that can tell the read d...
[20:11:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02Re:This is about a reduction in poaching - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:12] <exec> 08└─I also heard a story from an econ professor in school, that two African countries took different steps to combat poaching: one had immediate death penalty for poachers and the other allowed people to harvest animals on their property. The country which instituted property rights had the better succe...
[20:11:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score:2) 02Re:No. - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:29] <exec> 08└─You are thinking of rhino horn, which is completely different from elephant ivory. I am not aware of any medical remedies using ivory at least, ivory's main use is decorative, from my understanding. But that is another thing that could be farmed without killing the animal, and indeed would be by far...
[20:11:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mammoth tusks - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:34] <exec> 08└─Thanks, global warming!
[20:11:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03julian [6003] (Score:2) 02Re:Mammoth tusks - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:36] <exec> 08└─Climate change is the more accurate term because, while global average temperature increases due to human activity (this is no longer controversial except among the willfully ignorant or the duplicitous), some areas will experience more extreme weather in the opposite direction. This is not a contra...
[20:11:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mammoth tusks - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 338 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:38] <exec> 08└─Ho ho ho, how I never been more willing to come back in the future and say "you were right, it was nonsense," even thou you make jest of serious situation. I want my children to grow up on a planet that can sustain them, not to have to live like street-shitters from the Third World, so while I know...
[20:11:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Make Fake legal - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:11:41] <exec> 08└─Make it legal to sell fake ivory, and to thus defraud the customers. Then prosecute sellers of real ivory HARD, with a few selected examples at differing levels of the business...including those financing the distribution. So they have a strong motivation to only deal in fake ivory.
[20:12:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02Re:Thankfully rare - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:10] <exec> 08└─I'm typically happier with the USPS than the competitors.
[20:12:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:I do the same thing - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 571 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:14] <exec> 08└─I hate junk mail. But I've been ok with throwing it in the recycling bin in order to keep the post office working when I need it (though dropping to 4-days-per-week delivery wouldn't hurt me at all). On the other hand, it's getting a bit insane right now, despite now being a battleground state (lots...
[20:12:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Obligatory Futurama - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:21] <exec> 08└─Noble Georgia is pretty far away, but they've got a history of dumping their responsibilities in the woods there, too: https://www.theguardian.com [theguardian.com]
[20:12:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:"no one had an obligation to accept the offer" - 06Studies that Intentionally Infect Humans with Pathogens are Increasing - 524 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:37] <exec> 08└─The issue with paying for it is that it's mostly going to be poor people signing up. Especially if they make it a lot of money. Now, if you're in a part of the world with a mandatory minimum income, that might not be as much of an issue, but these kinds of programs have a tendency to exploit the poo...
[20:13:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:-ate - 06Did 40-Year-Old Viking Experiment Discover Life on Mars? - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:48] <exec> 08└─I was saying that the test is apparently for carboxyl groups, rather than life.
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[21:09:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02how many jobs destroyed - 06Start-Up Lucid Motors Launches With 300-Mile Plus Premium Electric Sedan - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:09:36] <exec> 08└─You know what, forget about the number of homeless people displaced by this startup. Let's find out how much homeless urine it will take to destroy an electric car.
[21:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the root of politics - 06Cheran: The Town That Threw Out Police, Politicians and Gangsters - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:47] <exec> 08└─I prefer to call it "direct democracy."
[21:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the root of politics - 06Cheran: The Town That Threw Out Police, Politicians and Gangsters - 633 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:49] <exec> 08└─Politics come from POLIS, Greek for city. A city is about the biggest manageable unit for citizen to express their opinion. When you go to nation or confederation or world government, representatives get so powerful that they can screw citizen over. Note, I don't imply places like the medieval commu...
[21:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the root of politics - 06Cheran: The Town That Threw Out Police, Politicians and Gangsters - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:52] <exec> 08└─I had heard it came from poly- meaning "many" and ticks meaning "blood sucking parasites" hence "many blood sucking parasites" -Stolen from Dave Barry.
[21:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Slow news day? - 06Cheran: The Town That Threw Out Police, Politicians and Gangsters - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:56] <exec> 08└─SJW feminazi propaganda
[21:10:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Tor users are often not seen in postive..." - 06Anonymity of Tor Users and Wikipedia Editors - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:10] <exec> 08└─You original point included reference to "positive" uses of anonymity, but the general gist seemed to be anti-anonymity. In your mind re-frame your initial post with the concept of free speech and someone publishing a document anonymously. If you saw a stranger doing the same, you might decide to G...
[21:10:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Thor Heyerdahl (the Kon-Tiki guy) - 06Greeks May Have Influenced Terracotta Army - 506 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:35] <exec> 08└─In the 1970s, some folks thought that the people of Mesoamerica could not possibly have figured out how to build giant stone pyramids on their own and there just -had- to be a technology transfer from Egypt to the Western Hemisphere. So, they tried to sail across the Atlantic in a boat they made out...
[21:11:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:This is about a reduction in poaching - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:05] <exec> 08└─The thought behind unbanning ivory is that black-market prices will drop to the point where it is no longer rewarding to illegally gather it.
[21:11:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Am I missing something? - 06No Sustainable Way to Harvest Ivory and Fulfill Consumer Demand - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:11] <exec> 08└─The problem with any legal trade is that it legitimizes poachers. With CITES schedule I, almost anyone in possession of ivory is automatically assumed guilty. Take that away and enforcement becomes a game of detecting forgery and other deceptions.
[21:12:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:math time - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 655 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:09] <exec> 08└─Well, you can tell them what to do. What I'd do is not worry about my snail mail being lost because its apparently kinda unlikely, and moving stuff from snail mail to email would seem to be a net reliability loss so I wouldn't do that either. Its also interesting to look at it from the opposite dire...
[21:12:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:FARC has way more support then 10%. - 06Columbia and FARC Talking Again - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:44] <exec> 08└─In the 37% turn-out vote, half were definitely pro-FARC while the other half had a few FARC extremists that don't want to sign a peace treaty without going into early elections.
[21:13:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:more hard selling - 06A Hotter World is Poorer and More Violent - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:16] <exec> 08└─What I'm not sold on is the general "conspiracy theory" tone of such arguments. Here's the reality -- fossil fuel-dependent industries have a LOT of money. They have a lot of power, politically and economically. They're much more established and entrenched in all of these things than any business lo...
[21:14:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Doctor/Nurse. Also, alternative method for cars - 06​AI Expert: Super-Smart Cars Are Just a Glorious Beginning - 385 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:50] <exec> 08└─Right, most of the risks of things like Skynet come from when we hand over the decision making process to the AI at the same time that we give it access to the things necessary to carry out its plans. Simply restricting AI to carrying out human orders or repetitive tasks alone would greatly reduce t...
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[22:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02What are they thinking? - 06Rhode Island Universities' Move to Open-License Textbooks will Save Students $5M over 5 years - 434 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:36] <exec> 08└─Doesn't Rhode Island realize that this will cost desperately poor textbook publishers $5 million per year in sales? Therefore it must, somehow, be bad for the economy, in some undefinable way. Just like if I don't break the main street store owner's front glass window is bad for the economy because...
[22:09:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02SAIL! - 06Rhode Island Universities' Move to Open-License Textbooks will Save Students $5M over 5 years - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:37] <exec> 08└─Each lost sail is like another attack on expensive textbooks.
[22:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02This is what they should be doing - 06Rhode Island Universities' Move to Open-License Textbooks will Save Students $5M over 5 years - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:39] <exec> 08└─Instead of promising everyone a free college education the politicians should fund the writing of open source textbooks. Say 3-4 for every class. Then make the things available as free downloads. When I was in college my textbooks cost more than twice tuition and fees. Next, do the same for K-12. Co...
[22:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is what they should be doing - 06Rhode Island Universities' Move to Open-License Textbooks will Save Students $5M over 5 years - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:41] <exec> 08└─Good idea, but its not new. Politicians won't do this unless public outcry really moves them, the corruption does run deep.
[22:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03VanessaE [3396] (Score:2) 02Yawn... - 06Start-Up Lucid Motors Launches With 300-Mile Plus Premium Electric Sedan - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:51] <exec> 08└─The article is missing the one crucial bit of info: how much the @%#$ing thing costs! All I could see is that they intend to target Mercedes and BMW customers. Who cares if this new one has 300-400 miles of range, if it's out of the budget of the average person? A Tesla model 3 is already expensive...
[22:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Re:Yawn... - 06Start-Up Lucid Motors Launches With 300-Mile Plus Premium Electric Sedan - 516 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:54] <exec> 08└─It is still competition though which is good for the market overall. Yes, peons like us won't see any benefit in the short term, but if this forces the likes of BMW and Merz to start producing more ECs and investing more research into the area and help drive up awareness, efficiency in economics, EC...
[22:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Re:the root of politics - 06Cheran: The Town That Threw Out Police, Politicians and Gangsters - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:06] <exec> 08└─The description of the events sounds like mob rule
[22:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:the root of politics - 06Cheran: The Town That Threw Out Police, Politicians and Gangsters - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:07] <exec> 08└─You could say our current government is mob rule - - but the mob is a small group of ultra wealthy.
[22:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:2) 02re 5 years - 06Cheran: The Town That Threw Out Police, Politicians and Gangsters - 1711 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:10:15] <exec> 08└─It’s been five years of self-rule for the people of Cheran. First, Cheran is a small town and part of a larger municipality composed of different communities, many smaller than Cheran where most of the inhabitants are indigenous people, called purépecha. The political parties were seen as causing...
[22:10:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sounds pretty much... - 06Anonymity of Tor Users and Wikipedia Editors - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:35] <exec> 08└─Holding up systemd as a good example of anything is not warranted
[22:10:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wikipedia needs a "stable version" system - 06Anonymity of Tor Users and Wikipedia Editors - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:38] <exec> 08└─Throw this guy out! He can't even count!
[22:10:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Yeah... it's OK I suppose - 06Greeks May Have Influenced Terracotta Army - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:10:58] <exec> 08└─Terracotta Army is OK if you're going for a domination victory, but the extra maintenance cost for doubling the size of your army makes it expensive. I usually go for Petra, especially if I have some desert tiles.
[22:12:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:Thankfully rare - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:12:24] <exec> 08└─I like to shred it, then return it in the prepaid envelopes. I also like to include some additional, random content ....
[22:12:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Thankfully rare - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 526 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:12:26] <exec> 08└─Actually, I use USPS a lot. Sure, email took over two decades ago, but I like my bills on paper. I stack them up until payday, when I have a physical reminder to pay each one. The bank statement, as well. And I NEED paper for my ISP bill, because I've never used that email address and that's the add...
[22:12:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:Thankfully rare - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:12:28] <exec> 08└─I shred it so the kids can use it as bedding for their guinea pigs.
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[23:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:SAIL! Orinoco Flow! - 06Rhode Island Universities' Move to Open-License Textbooks will Save Students $5M over 5 years - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:40] <exec> 08└─Sale away, sale away, sale away!
[23:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03e_armadillo [3695] (Score:2) 02Re:What are they thinking? - 06Rhode Island Universities' Move to Open-License Textbooks will Save Students $5M over 5 years - 679 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:41] <exec> 08└─Obviously, they didn't read "Economics in One Lesson". However, I'm not sure the Baker's window analogy applies here. Nothing is destroyed, other than the publisher's revenue, and that isn't destroyed. It is merely diverted to other areas of the economy. i.e. instead of spending that $5M on textbook...
[23:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:the root of politics - 06Cheran: The Town That Threw Out Police, Politicians and Gangsters - 522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:03] <exec> 08└─No he was right they paid pocket change compared to nowadays: http://www.medievalists.net [medievalists.net] until https://foreignpolicy.com [foreignpolicy.com] Putting it altogethe...
[23:10:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:the root of politics - 06Cheran: The Town That Threw Out Police, Politicians and Gangsters - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:04] <exec> 08└─First, he said "medieval", which doesn't typically apply to the colonists who were definitely post-renaissance. Second, the functions performed by governments have evolved quite a bit since, especially if you're thinking in "colonists" terms. Apples, meet durian.
[23:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:the root of politics - 06Cheran: The Town That Threw Out Police, Politicians and Gangsters - 2401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:12] <exec> 08└─Tibman, you make good points - but, I have to differ with you some. Let's take a little stroll across a 2000 few decades, shall we? The Interstate Highway system was started in the late '40's or early '50's. It's primary purpose, of course, was rapid troop and material movement, for the military. S...
[23:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03dingus [5224] (Score:2) 02Mexico is weird - 06Cheran: The Town That Threw Out Police, Politicians and Gangsters - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:10:21] <exec> 08└─Mexico has, by my count, three seperate anarchist insurrections at the current time. One of them has been successfully autonomous for over a decade. It has a very long history of libertarian socialist revolutions(or attempted revolutions). And yet so many people, Mexicans and anarchists included, do...
[23:10:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03chromas [34] (Score:2) 02Re:Wikipedia needs a "stable version" system - 06Anonymity of Tor Users and Wikipedia Editors - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:44] <exec> 08└─Oh, he can count; it's just the values were anonymously vandalized while he wasn't looking.
[23:12:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:Thankfully rare - 06Video Shows USPS Worker Dumping Bins Of Mail In A Ditch - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:12:31] <exec> 08└─email took over two decades ago, but I like my bills on paper
[23:13:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:"no one had an obligation to accept the offer" - 06Studies that Intentionally Infect Humans with Pathogens are Increasing - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:01] <exec> 08└─The issue with paying for it is that it's mostly going to be poor people signing up. Especially if they make it a lot of money.
[23:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:FARC has way more support then 10%. - 06Columbia and FARC Talking Again - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:18] <exec> 08└─I'm not buying people are passionate enough about peace to leave bed, hand over the other cheek and vote to give congressional seats and live next to people they consider enemies and terrorists.
[23:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Re:FARC has way more support then 10%. - 06Columbia and FARC Talking Again - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:19] <exec> 08└─I'm not buying people are passionate enough about peace to leave bed, hand over the other cheek...
[23:17:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Enabler of Corruption - 06AT&T Poised to Buy Time Warner for $85.4 Billion - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:17:46] <exec> 08└─Hey, it'd work for a little while. We'd eventually be right back where we are but for a time there would be a government you could believe in.
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