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[00:01:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02ITC Benguiat - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:01:36] <exec> 08└─And Bodoni Poster Bold.
[00:01:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:3, Funny) 02Um, the default? - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 691 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:01:37] <exec> 08└─I change the size but not the font itself. I got tired of dicking with fonts installing LaTex in the late 80s/early 90s, I want nothing to do with them anymore. For those of you too young, early LaTex installs were a nightmare. You got asked a bunch of questions like "Do you want the flapdoodle in t...
[00:01:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02You're a little late, I'm already tom - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:01:39] <exec> 08└─I'm all out of faith This is how I feel I'm cold and I am shamed Lying naked on the floor Illusion never changed Into something real I'm wide awake and I can see The perfect guy is tom You're a little late, I'm already tom
[00:01:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02Jester - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:01:42] <exec> 08└─On my PC, I've set the system font, my web browser's default serif font, and my IRC client's font to Jester [dafont.com], a digitization of Filmotype August. Its glyph shapes are more distinctive than an all-symmetry-all-the-time sans, and screenshots [imgur.com] make people ask "what the font?".
[00:01:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03zzw30 [4576] (Score:1) 02Re:Jester - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:01:44] <exec> 08└─I'm glad you found a font that works for you, but that just seems like a hipster Comic Sans.
[00:01:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03caffeine [249] (Score:2) 02Sorry to hear that Torn - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:01:46] <exec> 08└─>One pet peeve of mine is how often a font makes it hard to distinguish between "tom" and "torn" If only have parents had not named you Torn this would not be such an issue for you. You should have a chat to them.
[00:01:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03pen-helm [837] (Score:1) 02Anything antialiased - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:01:48] <exec> 08└─I'm happy with any anti-aliased font.
[00:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:2) 02Re:mandatory reading - Donald Knuth - 06Crypto Needs More Transparency - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:01:59] <exec> 08└─Lout renders mathematical equations in a pretty decent way, but I wouldn't with lout formatting on anyone. As one internet [ycombinator.com] user puts it "for setting mathematics Lout manages to make almost every single decision subtly wrong." It renders fine, it's just beyond a pain.
[00:02:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Chicken and egg problem? - 06Crypto Needs More Transparency - 423 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:02:03] <exec> 08└─I read it as your latter asterisked interpretation. I didn't see it as a call for publishing MORE numbers, simply pointing out that some implementations simply use standard numbers embedded in the code because its computationally cheaper. I would think publishing a known list of easy to trap primes...
[00:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Devastating news for AGW cultists? - 06Trees Are Much Better at Creating Clouds and Cooling the Climate Than We Thought - 733 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:02:23] <exec> 08└─Current models spend a lot of time trying to debunk the Gaia hypothesis [wikipedia.org] instead of finding ways to test it and use the parts that prove promising, and which might be subject to intentional manipulation. To that extent you might be correct. Watch for papers knocking down these meddlin...
[00:02:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Devastating news for AGW cultists? - 06Trees Are Much Better at Creating Clouds and Cooling the Climate Than We Thought - 993 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:02:24] <exec> 08└─Does not really mater which side you end up on. Pollution is not good. Pollution in pure economic terms is waste, waste costs you money. Pollution in metaphysical terms messes you up. It is not good for you as a human. I think they had it right in the 70s. Give a hoot dont pollute. Ni 1000 ce and si...
[00:02:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:2) 02More clouds != cooler Earth - 06Trees Are Much Better at Creating Clouds and Cooling the Climate Than We Thought - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:02:26] <exec> 08└─More trees means more clouds, which means cooler Earth.
[00:02:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:2 Mbit/s link - 06ExoMars arrives at the Red Planet on Sunday - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:02:37] <exec> 08└─Super Bob does it again! Vacuum-filled! I assume that is what you meant. I will have to just sit and think about that one for a while. Vacuum. Filled with a vacuum. Like a vacuum tube just full of vacuum. Nope, still doesn't work. Super Bob may have crossed the line this time.
[00:02:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:2 Mbit/s link - 06ExoMars arrives at the Red Planet on Sunday - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:02:39] <exec> 08└─Admittedly an obscure reference: http://www.cavebear.com [cavebear.com] Check out the other products, including armor-piercing packets!
[00:02:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Unrelated... - 0625 New Dead Sea Scrolls Revealed - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:02:53] <exec> 08└─Services Rendered: Safely Preventing you Exceeding your Data CAP ---- $ 50.00. Keep the change you filthy animals.
[00:04:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02Re:Mobile code is still evil - 06The State Of JavaScript: Introduction - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:04:30] <exec> 08└─If you want a VM/OS then build one.
[00:04:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02Re:Mobile code is still evil - 06The State Of JavaScript: Introduction - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:04:39] <exec> 08└─Dumping JS is a solution that is massive overkill to the problems. Especially when there are other solutions.
[00:07:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Guided by Samsung - 06Missle Attack from Yemen Targets US Navy Destroyer, Saudi Air Base - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:26] <exec> 08└─I'm giving Galaxy Note 7s for Christmas presents...to people I don't like.
[00:07:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''there is no problem'' - 06Missle Attack from Yemen Targets US Navy Destroyer, Saudi Air Base - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:33] <exec> 08└─...if you download the site's CSS and run it. I don't. (I like a white background with black text and no sidebars.) As such, ridiculously long strings of text with no whitespaces spill past the right edge of my screen. (I liked the way that was handled back at the start of the site, which worked for...
[00:08:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03danomac [979] (Score:2) 02Re:Wrong market segment? - 06UPDATE: Samsung Halts Galaxy Note 7 Production - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:08:33] <exec> 08└─Will there be a fire sale?
[00:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03charon [5660] (Score:1) 02Re:NRx dumbfucks - 06Early Biography of Adolf Hitler May Actually be an Autobiography - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:41] <exec> 08└─You say democracy fills cemeteries? Dictatorship fills hidden mass graves. [nytimes.com]
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[01:01:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:Um, the default? - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:01:36] <exec> 08└─Mods, wasn't aiming for funny here. Try again.
[01:01:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Proggy - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:01:43] <exec> 08└─I really like the Proggy fonts [greer.fm]. Monospaced, readable, minimal. They're great for tiny terminals (especially ProggyTiny). Plus, using a pixelated font makes me feel cool even though it probably shouldn't and I know that.
[01:01:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02My Favorite Font? - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:01:45] <exec> 08└─One that doesn't look like shit and that doesn't piss me off.
[01:01:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Monospaced - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:01:47] <exec> 08└─I like the one mintty uses. My wife, on the other hand, downloads fonts from all over the web. I'm always noticing weird files in her download folder and asking "What's this?" and discovering it's a font. When we got married my walls were white and bare, and it wasn't long until she had them all pai...
[01:01:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03garrulus [6051] (Score:1) 02ttf embedded coloured unicode emojis - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:01:49] <exec> 08└─https://github.com/eosrei/EmojiOne-Color-Font [github.com] http://eosrei.github.io [github.io] This font enables fullcolour ttf embedded svg emoticons, unfortunately it depends on using the not so pretty bitstream vera font as primary (for overlay/stacking order re...
[01:01:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:2) 02Sure, my very subjective response - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 449 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:01:51] <exec> 08└─Most of my time is spent in a code editor with Code Pro. Beyond that, I am a fan of Lucida Sans Unicode for the basics (it is my email font). Palatino Linotype for printed text where serifs are bette for readability. I find myself printing larger text in Optima for labels, and on the computer the fr...
[01:01:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Username [4557] (Score:2) 02Octavia in Pink - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:01:54] <exec> 08└─JK, Open Sans, fall back to Tahoma.
[01:02:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Chicken and egg problem? - 06Crypto Needs More Transparency - 1437 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:02:06] <exec> 08└─Essentially, the issue is a variation of the LOGJAM attack; crypto isn't my specialty but let me see if I can try and put this more in layman terms. TLS is underpinned by a Diffie–Hellman key exchange which requires creation of a set of 'known primes' on both ends of the connection. A set of DH pa...
[01:02:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Devastating news for AGW cultists? - 06Trees Are Much Better at Creating Clouds and Cooling the Climate Than We Thought - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:02:27] <exec> 08└─1. Humans are wrecking plant growth with slash-and-burn agriculture and other forms of habitat destruction faster than the higher CO2 can have its effect.
[01:02:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Devastating news for AGW cultists? - 06Trees Are Much Better at Creating Clouds and Cooling the Climate Than We Thought - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:02:29] <exec> 08└─There's also the fact that from a quick read *I* though it might indeed wreck those models...by making them understate the speed of onset of the process. If trees are more effective at generating clouds than we thought, then deforestation will have stronger effects than we thought. And deforestation...
[01:03:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Name one other equal written work... - 0625 New Dead Sea Scrolls Revealed - 429 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:03:02] <exec> 08└─Euclid's Elements [wikipedia.org]? Also, it's not because lots of energy has been spent on it already that it is valuable. We've spent multiple hundreds of thousands of hours on astrology and it's rubbish as well. It just means that lots of energy has been spent on it and that's all. (Some of that i...
[01:03:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ledow [5567] 02Re:Name one other equal written work... - 0625 New Dead Sea Scrolls Revealed - 480 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:03:06] <exec> 08└─Aesop's Fables. Predates the Bible by several hundred years. I guarantee you that you've read and heard of dozens of the stories in there, or their derivatives. Don't believe that the Bible is special just because lots of people believe it is. It's nowhere near the oldest, not even close to being th...
[01:03:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] 02Re:sed s/Bible/Harry Potter/ - 0625 New Dead Sea Scrolls Revealed - 126 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:03:17] <exec> 08└─Will these scrolls spill the beans about Jesus' family? How many children did he have? Wives? That will be truly entertaining.
[01:03:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:sed s/Bible/Harry Potter/ - 0625 New Dead Sea Scrolls Revealed - 1194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:03:19] <exec> 08└─It's not so much that they were lifted wholesale from Zoroastrianism or any other preceding religion...as that they're bog-standard common ancient theology. Pick any Mediterranean Pagan demigod and you'll find overlap with Jesus one way or another. With the Osiris / Dionysus death / resurrection / s...
[01:03:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Have you considered Devuan? - 06FreeBSD 11.0 Released - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:03:36] <exec> 08└─Devuan had quite a few issues with it last time I looked (which admitly was awhile ago) that made me very "eh" on selecting it as a choice of distro. It looks like they migrated away from using Jenkins as a build service and are less on the crack pipe than they were historically so maybe worth a sec...
[01:03:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Looking forward to trying it - 06FreeBSD 11.0 Released - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:03:46] <exec> 08└─Yeah, we're still on Linode, and we'll loose Linode's backup service if we switch it over to FreeBSD. Migrating off Linode is an option if it comes to that though TBH, I rather not do so if it can be avoided. Lots of pain in that scenario.
[01:05:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03fubari [4551] (Score:2) 02Re:Or read the humorous take - 06The State Of JavaScript: Introduction - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:05:05] <exec> 08└─bravo :-) hard to choose between +1 Informative and +1 Funny
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[02:01:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Um, the default? - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:41] <exec> 08└─flapdoodle in the argus. Be thankful for the funny mods. Someone is sure to be triggered somewhere, thinking about a lawsuit.
[02:01:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Jester - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:46] <exec> 08└─No, No, I'm pretty sure Jester pre-dates comic, as its dates from the arrival of the golgafrinchans on the B Arc, which is pretty much where the discussion of fonts originated.
[02:01:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sorry to hear that Torn - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:49] <exec> 08└─Perhaps you've heard of Elmore Rual "Rip" Torn Jr.
[02:01:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:Monospaced - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:55] <exec> 08└─SYSTEM for the win. Women are great at decorating, so having a canvas for them is always good. Except when you let the new one paint over the old one.
[02:01:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02This sounds utterly conventional, but... - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:02:00] <exec> 08└─My fave is boring old Arial with Microsoft ClearType rendering. Apple has the very similar Helvetica with a different rendering algorithm that supposedly preserved the "printed type" look at smaller font sizes on the screen, but it wasn't as clear to read. Arial just looks good printed or on the scr...
[02:02:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Those with good bitmaps - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:02:02] <exec> 08└─Those with good bitmaps for small and normal sizes. Sick of fuzzy and variable color fonts because it took ages for some to realize the proper mixing formula in sRGB. In some cases, even when they finally realized/accepted the fact (yes, some negate(d) that mixing in non linear spaces are not same f...
[02:02:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Input for monospace, no pref. for variable-width. - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 763 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:02:05] <exec> 08└─I really like using Input [fontbureau.com] for monospace text. It's decent even default, but what stands out is it's configurable [fontbureau.com] for things like whether you want 0 with a line through or not, letter spacing, type of g, type of a, etc. For variable-width, I don't care as much. Lots...
[02:02:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Wingdings... - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
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[02:02:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Full circle - 06Trees Are Much Better at Creating Clouds and Cooling the Climate Than We Thought - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:34] <exec> 08└─... aaaand, we find out the tree huggers were right all along. Trees really are important to our planet. Who'd a thunk? In the grand scheme of things, humans are just the latest 'hipsters' this planet has seen in its billions of years of evolution. Humans think they know everything. Mother nature is...
[02:02:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:Devastating news for AGW cultists? - 06Trees Are Much Better at Creating Clouds and Cooling the Climate Than We Thought - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:42] <exec> 08└─2. Higher concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere = higher temperatures (this has been demonstrated repeatedly in lab experiments, there's no guessing about that), which means that areas closer to the equator can become too warm for the plants currently there. In other words, the shift is towards the...
[02:02:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Devastating news for AGW cultists? - 06Trees Are Much Better at Creating Clouds and Cooling the Climate Than We Thought - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:44] <exec> 08└─re. 3. Plants lose a lot of water through the pores they open to absorb CO2. It has been demonstrated that water requirements for many plants go down as the CO2 levels go up.
[02:02:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Devastating news for AGW cultists? - 06Trees Are Much Better at Creating Clouds and Cooling the Climate Than We Thought - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:47] <exec> 08└─1. Humans are wrecking plant growth with slash-and-burn agriculture and other forms of habitat destruction faster than the higher CO2 can have its effect.
[02:02:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Meanwhile in Suburbia - 06Trees Are Much Better at Creating Clouds and Cooling the Climate Than We Thought - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:02:53] <exec> 08└─Every time a house is replaced all the trees are nuked and two SUVs take their place.
[02:03:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What if the aliens returned one of our own? - 06ExoMars arrives at the Red Planet on Sunday - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:03:05] <exec> 08└─Let's say: 1. NASA sends a device to Mars 2. Device goes dark after landing 3. Device is sent back through space to the exact location it originated from on Earth (modified by aliens for whatever purpose) What then?
[02:04:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03goodie [1877] (Score:2) 02Re:Looking forward to trying it - 06FreeBSD 11.0 Released - 589 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:04:09] <exec> 08└─Used to use Linux, tried FreeBSD maybe 10 years ago or so (so way before systemd came in the picture). I'm by no means an expert in it but I love it for my home servers. The ports system is awesome (haven't really used packages) and the systems are rock solid. I got nothing but praise to give for Fr...
[02:05:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Javascript sucks - 06The State Of JavaScript: Introduction - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:05:27] <exec> 08└─newVariable = (oneVariable+anotherVariable) * 1
[02:05:28] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Ken_g6 [3706] 02Or read the humorous take - 06The State Of JavaScript: Introduction - 93 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:05:28] <exec> 08└─https://hackernoon.com/how-it-feels-to-learn-javascript-in-2016-d3a717dd577f [hackernoon.com]
[02:06:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Qihoo 360 Antivirus - 06Heads Roll as Qihoo 360 Moves to End Wosign, Startcom Certificate Row - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:06:40] <exec> 08└─Please don't make the mistake of installing this antivirus. It's being featured on more and more Windows free/shareware/trial software download sites. The amount of information it sends back is very disturbing. And what further data is sent back following installation and initial data sent?
[02:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Offtopic: - 06Early Biography of Adolf Hitler May Actually be an Autobiography - 504 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:06] <exec> 08└─We should all move. They have poutine-flavored potato chips. That's gravy flavored potato chips. Canadians take every unhealthy, insanely delicious food Americans can think of, and double it. They're also polite, which would be particularly attractive to those of us who remember an America that valu...
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[03:01:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Metamaterial Controls Researchers Using Light - 06Metamaterial Uses Light to Control its Motion - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:01:37] <exec> 08└─So it's a light-powered motor? Could it be placed in a flat grid and pitted against solar panels?
[03:01:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02That's nice - 06Metamaterial Uses Light to Control its Motion - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:01:38] <exec> 08└─WTF is a plasmomechanical metamaterial?
[03:01:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:That's nice - 06Metamaterial Uses Light to Control its Motion - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:40] <exec> 08└─Well, metamaterial just means a material that has a property not found in nature. A mechanical metamaterial is one that moves or vibrates, like the one in this article. A plasmomechanical metamaterial is obviously a type of living clay that moves around on its own and entertains children [wikipedia....
[03:01:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Um, the default? - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:52] <exec> 08└─Mods, wasn't aiming for funny here. Try again.
[03:01:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:4, Funny) 02Re:Um, the default? - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:54] <exec> 08└─This is hilarious. My post saying my original post wasn't aiming for funny is now funnier than my original post. Which is still moderated as funny.
[03:01:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Ditto here - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 976 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:56] <exec> 08└─I read whatever in whatever default font. It's pretty much all the same to me, except wingdings look stupid, ancient fonts look stupid and confusing. I dislike anything which isn't easily read, I want it simple. But, the details of the fonts? I read. I don't look at the letters, I look at the words...
[03:01:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac (2489) ff6 (Score:2) 02Re:Ditto here - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 593 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:59] <exec> 08└─Haha, yes, I remember when the choice was Pica or Elite, and if you were truly extravagant, an IBM that did proportional type (and jammed a lot). When I'd progressed to a typewriter that took printwheels, I mostly used OCR-B. Prints nice and legible even with an old ribbon. For stuff printed off the...
[03:02:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:Ditto here - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:01] <exec> 08└─Jesus Christ, I'd completely forgotten that bit of old tech history. I could check out a typewriter from the college library, and also check out a ball. If my essay had something to say I'd get the one with the little font, otherwise I'd bloviate with the larger font. Damn I'm getting old :( Beats t...
[03:02:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02Re:Jester - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:07] <exec> 08└─Correct. Comic Sans was created in 1994, while the Filmotype machine dates back to the 1950s or thereabouts. A bold extended variant (Panache Sixpack, based on Filmotype Beaver) is used in the logos of Harris Teeter and ABCmouse.com.
[03:02:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:Sorry to hear that Torn - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:11] <exec> 08└─To quote Peter David: "Never name your character Clint Flicker".
[03:02:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:2) 02Re:My Favorite Font? - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:16] <exec> 08└─So papyrus?
[03:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Monospaced - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:21] <exec> 08└─Gay men are better at decorating than any woman, and gay men don't steal your sperm and impregnate themselves and susan you for child support.
[03:02:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Sure, my very subjective response - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:25] <exec> 08└─Yup. Lucinda and Liberation both work really well for everyday proportional fonts.
[03:02:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fnord666 [652] (Score:2) 02Anonymous Pro - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:02:32] <exec> 08└─For coding I prefer Anonymous Pro [marksimonson.com] and Anonymous Pro Minus for a monospaced font.
[03:02:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Consola Mono + BOld - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:02:34] <exec> 08└─https://fontlibrary.org/en/font/consolamono [fontlibrary.org] I use this for some monospaced stuff. Looks good IMO.
[03:02:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Consola Mono + BOld - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:36] <exec> 08└─Shiny but I have to stick with Unifont cause nothing else is as complete and I hate seeing boxes.
[03:02:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Consola Mono + BOld - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:38] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but if I'm in my text editor, ain't no way I'm going to throw Unicode glyphs around. I don't even want Extended ASCII. For the Web, maybe Noto is the right move. Though number6 mentioned [soylentnews.org] in the previous story that they couldn't get some East Asian glyphs to work, so maybe it...
[03:02:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Kerning - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:02:41] <exec> 08└─[...] where the letter spacing [...]
[03:02:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Consolas - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 495 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:02:43] <exec> 08└─I work with a mainframe everyday, all day. The only two monospace fonts in the telnet client my work provides are Lucida Console and Consolas. I much prefer Consolas of the two. In fact, one of the first things I do every morning at work is switch the telnet client over to the Consolas font, because...
[03:02:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Verdana - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:02:45] <exec> 08└─A well-designed Microsoft-designed alternative to Helvetica and Arial (proportional, sans serif). https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[03:03:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Full circle - 06Trees Are Much Better at Creating Clouds and Cooling the Climate Than We Thought - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:03:14] <exec> 08└─Trees are awesome but I'm still gonna cut em down and burn em cause they make ribs taste goooood.
[03:03:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:1) 02Re:Devastating news for AGW cultists? - 06Trees Are Much Better at Creating Clouds and Cooling the Climate Than We Thought - 710 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:03:29] <exec> 08└─"Pollution is not good. Pollution in pure economic terms is waste, waste costs you money. Pollution in metaphysical terms messes you up. It is not good for you as a human. I think they had it right in the 70s. Give a hoot dont pollute. Nice and simple." This is all true but what you seem to have mis...
[03:03:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Oblig - 06Trees Are Much Better at Creating Clouds and Cooling the Climate Than We Thought - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:03:32] <exec> 08└─If a widow maker fell on Donald Trump, that might be a turning point on climate change.
[03:04:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"Is God real?" is the most boring question - 0625 New Dead Sea Scrolls Revealed - 655 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:04:10] <exec> 08└─> Don't believe that the Bible is special just because lots of people believe it is. Why not? If a lot of people "believe" in it, that means its stood the test of time. The underlying ambition of religions far exceed the mundane question of the supernatural. They try to locate the tenets of a good l...
[03:04:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03gdwatson [6071] (Score:1) 02Re:Looking forward to trying it - 06FreeBSD 11.0 Released - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:04:51] <exec> 08└─If you don't need any unusual build options, you should give packages a shot. pkgng is wonderful. I like the quarterly package set myself, but that's for a desktop. It means I get updates reasonably frequently, and the bugs are allowed to shake out first. Security updates get pushed out more frequen...
[03:04:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Why don't some of you anti-systemd guys - 06FreeBSD 11.0 Released - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:04:59] <exec> 08└─Start your own Linux distro?
[03:05:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Degrades gracefully? - 06The State Of JavaScript: Introduction - 499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:05:59] <exec> 08└─Have you bothered to read ANY of the emails released by Wikileaks in the past few days? Any of them? The woman has zero regard for the constitution, for taxpayers, for the working man and woman. Zero. She visualizes the same world that the neocons were calling for. Wall Street and the federal govern...
[03:07:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:But does it have a decen screen-font? - 06More Than 800 Languages in a Single Typeface: Noto - 536 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:56] <exec> 08└─And where exactly do you draw the line between programming and something else? I haven't called myself a programmer for decades but 'normal' people are always claiming that the things I do with a computer are programming. I just consider it using the computer. But it still involves parsing text and...
[03:08:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Interesting details omitted - 06Missle Attack from Yemen Targets US Navy Destroyer, Saudi Air Base - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:59] <exec> 08└─So, Iraq didn't really buy those dousing sticks?
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[04:01:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Simple answer - 06Apple Watch Reportedly Banned in UK Cabinet Meetings Amid Hacking Concerns - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:01:39] <exec> 08└─No networked devices. Battlestar Gallactica style bitches!
[04:01:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Snotnose [1623] 02Um, the default? - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 691 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:01:58] <exec> 08└─I change the size but not the font itself. I got tired of dicking with fonts installing LaTex in the late 80s/early 90s, I want nothing to do with them anymore. For those of you too young, early LaTex installs were a nightmare. You got asked a bunch of questions like "Do you want the flapdoodle in t...
[04:01:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Snotnose [1623] 02Re:Um, the default? - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 59 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:01:59] <exec> 08└─Mods, wasn't aiming for funny here. Try again. < 2000 /div>
[04:02:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Um, the default? - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:02:04] <exec> 08└─Mods, wasn't aiming for funny here. Try again.
[04:02:05] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Snotnose [1623] 02Re:Um, the default? - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 147 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:02:05] <exec> 08└─This is hilarious. My post saying my original post wasn't aiming for funny is now funnier than my original post. Which is still moderated as funny.
[04:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Um, the default? - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:02:08] <exec> 08└─Okay Snotnose, it was Funny the first three times. Four, and it's karma whoring!
[04:02:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:Um, the default? - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:02:10] <exec> 08└─It's actually hilarious. People who moderate have no clue as to the backstory so they moderate on how I stated it. I'll bet $100 those who moderated me funny never tried to install LaTex in the late 80s/early 90s. My meaningless word 1 verb meaningless word 2 are simply examples of A) how the questi...
[04:02:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03snufu [5855] (Score:2) 02Re:Um, the default? - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:02:12] <exec> 08└─(I'm not trying to be (I'm not trying to be (I'm not trying to be funny)))
[04:02:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:Ditto here - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 534 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:02:17] <exec> 08└─Funny story... I was at some tech conference hosted by IBM, and we'd just heard a spiel about whatever was their latest-and-greatest tech. The presenter was doing the "get responses from the crowd and hand out T-shirts" schtick.... and asked the assembled crowd: "What is IBM known for?" with the obv...
[04:02:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03snufu [5855] (Score:2) 02"Do you want the flapdoodle in the argus?" - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:02:19] <exec> 08└─That is some pretty kinky kerning. Which Knuth book did you read?
[04:02:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:Proggy - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:02:30] <exec> 08└─Thanks. I've been looking for a monospaced font that's legible at smaller sizes.
[04:02:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03joekiser [1837] (Score:2) 02Terminus - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:02:52] <exec> 08└─I use terminus on a fullscreen 1920x1200 xterm.
[04:02:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03drgibbon [74] (Score:1) 02Fira Mono / Droid Sans Mono - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:02:53] <exec> 08└─I use Mozilla's Fira Mono [carrois.com] in Emacs, and Droid Sans Mono [google.com] in the terminal. There are also interesting possibilities with the use of ligatures especially for character combinations when programming, e.g., Fira Code [github.com].
[04:02:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03mechanicjay [7] (Score:2) 02The two I install on every system are... - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 1145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:02:55] <exec> 08└─I install two fonts on every system I run. In the first case, I did an extensive search for a nice clean fixed width font that looked good at 9pt or so. I found Dina: https://www.donationcoder.com [donationcoder.com] It's available in some linux repos, else the TTF install is us...
[04:03:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:3, Informative) 02Make your own DH parameters - 06Crypto Needs More Transparency - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:03:10] <exec> 08└─There are fixed DH parameters out there that everyone uses but it is very much possible to generate your own. I use such self-generated Diffie-Hellman parameters for all of my OpenVPN installations. The following OpenSSL command suffices: openssl dhparam -out dh.pem 4096
[04:03:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What kind of Alien are You? - 06Trees Are Much Better at Creating Clouds and Cooling the Climate Than We Thought - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:03:34] <exec> 08└─3. plants adapt to lack of water just fine (cacti and other adaptations are very hardy that have co-evolved more than once). It is a common problem assuming that "I can only see desert with these conditions, therefore only what I see can exist". Biology doesn't care. Could it slow growth -sure. But...
[04:03:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:Devastating news for AGW cultists? - 06Trees Are Much Better at Creating Clouds and Cooling the Climate Than We Thought - 2267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:03:38] <exec> 08└─"How do you know the proper word here is "assume" rather than "observe"?" Because if it was more than an assumption dozens of you would have bombarded me with links to a proper observation, or demonstration. It's not. It's an assumption built into their models. "Off the top of my head, I can think...
[04:03:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Devastating news for Vaccination cultists? - 06Trees Are Much Better at Creating Clouds and Cooling the Climate Than We Thought - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:03:44] <exec> 08└─Just making a point. If its not clear to you, you probably need it the most.
[04:03:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:More clouds != cooler Earth - 06Trees Are Much Better at Creating Clouds and Cooling the Climate Than We Thought - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:03:47] <exec> 08└─Also, Venus is quite cloudy but not particularly cool, IIRC.
[04:03:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Hey Pinky! - 06Trees Are Much Better at Creating Clouds and Cooling the Climate Than We Thought - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:03:49] <exec> 08└─> Also, Venus is quite cloudy but not particularly cool, IIRC. Hey Pinky! What are we going to do today? Move the world to the orbit of Venus!
[04:04:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What if the aliens returned one of our own? - 06ExoMars arrives at the Red Planet on Sunday - 754 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:04:05] <exec> 08└─Then you get a medal for being such an astute and intelligent induhvidual and the world celebrates your astuteness before it happens! You are a special, astute and intelligent induhvidual. Your intelligence and astuteness should be recognized! Let's call it "The Special Snowflake Medal!" Failing tha...
[04:04:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Name one other equal written work... - 0625 New Dead Sea Scrolls Revealed - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:04:26] <exec> 08└─But games are what we live for. Didn't we collectively waste over a billion hours on Angry Birds? Pokemon Go? At least the bible (and a few other ancient works of literature) had an arguably measurable impact on the development of western culture. Knowing your history is valuable. Killing screen pix...
[04:05:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mobile code is still evil - 06The State Of JavaScript: Introduction - 507 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:05:53] <exec> 08└─Look dipshit, it's ALL about the billions of web users who don't give a flying fuck about and are completely oblivious to YOUR difficulties. Your job as a responsible 'developer' is to provide a safe and secure service. Nothing else. All your petty 'concerns' don't mean shit. Either provide a safe a...
[04:05:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mobile code is still evil - 06The State Of JavaScript: Introduction - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:05:56] <exec> 08└─Blame the "marketing forces" but ya'll fucked up and let it happen.
[04:08:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Use PureURL - 06Missle Attack from Yemen Targets US Navy Destroyer, Saudi Air Base - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:08:54] <exec> 08└─The firefox extension PureURL [mozilla.org] strips that crap off by default. You can manually add other crap to the list of crap to strip off.
[04:11:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02You can't possibly be that stupid. - 06Early Biography of Adolf Hitler May Actually be an Autobiography - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:11:05] <exec> 08└─You can't possibly be that stupid. Just because someone calls it democracy does not make it so. You might as well be arguing that the DPRK is a democracy because of the D.
[04:11:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:NRx dumbfucks - 06Early Biography of Adolf Hitler May Actually be an Autobiography - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:11:06] <exec> 08└─I'm well aware of giant piles of indoctrination and elaborate logic puzzles and sophistry, but pragmatically for example "bringing democracy to Iraq" has filled the cemeteries a lot faster than leaving them alone would have.
[04:11:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02juvenile sophistry - 06Early Biography of Adolf Hitler May Actually be an Autobiography - 708 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:11:20] <exec> 08└─> The point is that Hillary has blood on her hands, and Donald does not. Period. Are you so sure? He's fucked over a lot of people, I bet there has been at least one suicide as a result. And he sure has tried to get people killed. The central park 5 for example. He paid for a full-page ad in the NYT...
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[05:01:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Kick the flying can down the road - 06Obama: "America Will Take the Giant Leap to Mars" - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:01:37] <exec> 08└─It's easy for Obama to start it because it's the Chelsea Administration that will have to pay for it.
[05:01:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Plant the Black Flag on the Red Planet! - 06Obama: "America Will Take the Giant Leap to Mars" - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:01:38] <exec> 08└─I've had enough of the Colored Man of the Decade, man! Bring on the Woman of the Next Decade! Fucking idiot voters. You're all idiots.
[05:01:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mykl [1112] (Score:2) 02Better Solution - 06Apple Watch Reportedly Banned in UK Cabinet Meetings Amid Hacking Concerns - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:01:47] <exec> 08└─Arrange to have the Apple Watches and other networked devices placed in a room full of actors playing out a fake meeting with disinformation. False flags everywhere! For added efficiency, why not outsource the job to China?
[05:01:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"turned into listening devices" - 06Apple Watch Reportedly Banned in UK Cabinet Meetings Amid Hacking Concerns - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:01:49] <exec> 08└─Not much of a hack as it's what that kit's for.
[05:03:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Great - 06Trees Are Much Better at Creating Clouds and Cooling the Climate Than We Thought - 395 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:03:24] <exec> 08└─"The pre-industrial revolution atmosphere had the smoke from a billion cooking fires for as far back as history records." Actually the human population only reached one billion around 1804. Got to 1ff6 2 billion around 1927. ( https://en.wikipedia.org) [wikipedia.org] So unles...
[05:03:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Devastating news for AGW cultists? - 06Trees Are Much Better at Creating Clouds and Cooling the Climate Than We Thought - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:03:37] <exec> 08└─We have very little idea *what* would happen - only that life would persist. The problem with the politics of this, is that homo sapiens sapiens might not be on the list of survivors!
[05:03:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimtheowl [5929] (Score:2) 02Re:Devastating news for AGW cultists? - 06Trees Are Much Better at Creating Clouds and Cooling the Climate Than We Thought - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:03:47] <exec> 08└─Why refer to a loop feedback as a cult? Vegetation does scrub co2, encourages water mist, regulates temperature... CO2 does encourages plant growth, but humans are very busy at cutting down trees and filling the oceans with filth. No new information here, but that said, the equation is far mor...
[05:05:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03MadTinfoilHatter [4635] (Score:2) 02Re:Why don't some of you anti-systemd guys - 06FreeBSD 11.0 Released - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:05:22] <exec> 08└─We did. It's called Devuan [devuan.org]
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[05:09:16] <exec> 08└─I liked the way that was handled back at the start of the site, which worked for any browser setup.
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[06:01:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02kill the poor people - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:01:31] <exec> 08└─Pedestrians are walking because they're poor. If the lives of pedestrians had any value then they would be driving instead of walking.
[06:01:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Wonder how this will work in California? - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:01:32] <exec> 08└─In California the pedestrian has the right of way. So if such a Mercedes injures or kills one or more pedestrians, does the owner or the car company face attempted murder or manslaughter charges.
[06:01:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Wonder how this will work in California? - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 601 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:01:34] <exec> 08└─I believe that is true in every state, with few exceptions. The interstate highways would be one exception. It's against the law to hitchhike, ride horses, motorized bicycles, farm implements, go-karts, or anything other than licensed, insured motor vehicles. There may be some other exceptions to th...
[06:01:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Only thing worse than Dragons! - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 663 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:01:36] <exec> 08└─Yes, that would be Americans! But only slightly less known is the fact that Mercedes owners are upper class pricks, and that BMW drivers should not be allowed to actually drive an automobile, let alone own one. No surprise that Mercedes would defend its occupant over a pedestrian. After all, the ped...
[06:01:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:3, Insightful) 02It's what sells - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:01:39] <exec> 08└─I guess they deciding factor was coming neither from the ethicist nor from the coders, but from the marketing department: They probably decided that most customers would value their own safety higher than the safety of others, so cars that do the same will sell better. Remember, in the end there's o...
[06:01:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02So... - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:01:41] <exec> 08└─If the car is waiting for children at a school crossing, and it detects an imminent rear-impact collision by a truck? It'll break the road rules and mow the children down. Save one life, anyway (who just happens to be a Mercedes customer)?
[06:01:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02My vote - 06Obama: "America Will Take the Giant Leap to Mars" - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:01:51] <exec> 08└─The following creatures are indigenous to Mars: https://www.yakimawa.gov [yakimawa.gov] THEY NEED TO BE SENT BACK, ASAP!!!
[06:01:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03fadrian [3194] (Score:2) 02Lame duck announcement... - 06Obama: "America Will Take the Giant Leap to Mars" - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:01:53] <exec> 08└─... made by the lame duck. I think W wanted to go back to the moon around this time in his... no, he wanted to go to the moon about six months earlier in his last term - by now, he was well enmeshed in the housing collapse. Bottom line... Lame ducks always want to go to outer space.
[06:01:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lame duck announcement... - 06Obama: "America Will Take the Giant Leap to Mars" - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:01:55] <exec> 08└─Nixon won, Barak! Dick Nixon planted his name on the Moon for all time.
[06:02:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Um, the default? - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:02:30] <exec> 08└─People who moderate have no clue as to the backstory so they moderate on how I stated it. I'll bet $100 those who moderated me funny never tried to install LaTex in the late 80s/early 90s
[06:04:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Unrelated... - 0625 New Dead Sea Scrolls Revealed - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:04:34] <exec> 08└─The admins were out in the Judean desert to loot some scrolls. They did find some fragments, but it turns out You can already find the full version of the text online for free. What a rip off!
[06:07:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:I got to check my Eyes - 06A Company Called Nauto Has Partnered With Toyota, BMW to Log Driver Habits - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:07:34] <exec> 08└─Well, if you the verb, you not surprised if someone for it.
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[07:01:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Some call me Tim [5819] (Score:2) 02Re:kill the poor people - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:40] <exec> 08└─Bullshit! They're walking because they choose to. Even my small town (50,000) has very low cost public transit.
[07:01:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:kill the poor people - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:41] <exec> 08└─Let's see the demographic data for your small town, and then the ridership statistics. Let's see if the poorest blackest people all ride the bus. And oh yeah, shitbrain. Have YOU ridden the bus lately? Or ever? And here's a question to blow your fucking mind, asswipe. When was the last time you gave...
[07:01:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:kill the poor people - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:44] <exec> 08└─When was the last time you gave more than a dollar to a beggar on the bus? I did, Monday of this week.
[07:01:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Re:kill the poor people - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:46] <exec> 08└─You're welcome, and I hope the sandwich you bought with the money was a good one.
[07:01:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Some call me Tim [5819] (Score:2) 02Re:Wonder how this will work in California? - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 408 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:50] <exec> 08└─While this is true, pedestrians also have a duty to make sure the way is clear. In other words, some dickhead wearing headphones and stepping out into traffic is not free and clear if a car that has the right of way hits him. Pedestrians also have some responsibility for their own safety. I've seen...
[07:01:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Only thing worse than Dragons! - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:53] <exec> 08└─Depends on whether you bought the bulletproof windows.
[07:01:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So... - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:57] <exec> 08└─Net worth of children: zero. It's their own fault for not growing faster.
[07:01:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Some call me Tim [5819] (Score:2) 02Re:So... - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:59] <exec> 08└─If that's the case, they're doing it wrong. If they are waiting for kids to pick up, they should be parked in a proper parking/pickup zone.
[07:02:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:So... - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:02] <exec> 08└─Not waiting for children to pick up. Waiting for children who cross the street. [thefreedictionary.com]
[07:02:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Make it configurable with magnetic rfid - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 517 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:02:04] <exec> 08└─Let the driver decide, just like it is now. But not with the excuse of not having the time to think or something. Put an rfid reader in a prominent location and sell copyrighted but cheap (or give for free) badges displaying the cars preferences, configuring the car at the same time. Also, make it g...
[07:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score:2) 02Re:Make it configurable with magnetic rfid - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:06] <exec> 08└─And demand an external sign on the car to light up, clearly visible for all: - This car will kill pedestrians - This car will kill the occupants What happens if both cars crash into each other?
[07:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Make it configurable with magnetic rfid - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:08] <exec> 08└─As a pedestrian-protector I have the moral high-ground. Since the world is better of with me alive than with a pedestrian-killer, I not only have the right but obviously the obligation to prioritize my own safety over that of the pedestrian-killer ;-)
[07:02:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Mercedes is right - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 732 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:02:10] <exec> 08└─No one will buy a self-driving car if they know it might deliberately kill them. What's more, if it does so, this could quite possibly create very significant product safety liability for them. If you assume the self-driving car is safer than the average driver, it will still save more lives, includ...
[07:02:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Defying human nature - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 513 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:02:12] <exec> 08└─The majority of humans will swerve to miss the group of children, creating millions of cars that will plow through a crowd instead of risk the occupants is morally wrong. I would much rather the occupants take a risk in their fancy crumple zoned airbagged metal cage. Sometimes I see the world spinni...
[07:02:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Lets review the bullbars precedent: - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 519 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:02:15] <exec> 08└─The EU and most of the western world regulated it with special permits for work-vehicles. The US allowed it for Mom's SUVs and Dad's truck and let the courts judge each incident on a case-by-case basis allowing the rich to get away with it and lining up the lawyers pockets. Asia, Africa & the middle...
[07:02:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02How about... - 06Obama: "America Will Take the Giant Leap to Mars" - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:26] <exec> 08└─We send each of them to their respective Space destinations? Spacesuit, air, food, other supplies optional. As is the spacecraft after clearing orbit.
[07:02:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03tonyPick [1237] (Score:2) 02Karma. - 06Apple Watch Reportedly Banned in UK Cabinet Meetings Amid Hacking Concerns - 405 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:02:36] <exec> 08└─This edict on the inability to trust recently manufactured hardware is brought to you by one of the many governments in our lifetimes to insist that shutting down, selling off or outsourcing the design and manufacturing sector is fine, because it isn't important to build stuff ourselves: apparently...
[07:03:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03JNCF [4317] 02Re:Um, the default? - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 80 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:01] <exec> 08└─Okay Snotnose, it was Funny the first three times. Four, and it's karma whoring!
[07:03:05] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Snotnose [1623] 02Re:Um, the default? - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 290 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:06] <exec> 08└─Now my original post, which wasn't aiming for funny, is now +5 funny, as is my post saying my original post wasn't meant to be funny, is now +5 funny, as is my post saying my post about my original post wasn't meant to be funny is now +5 funny. I feel like Donald Trump without the money :(
[07:03:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Um, the default? - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:08] <exec> 08└─I feel like Donald Trump without the money :(
[07:03:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Um, the default? - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 706 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:10] <exec> 08└─You are aware that to moderate you differently, you would first have to be downmodded? And since you cannot moderate the same post twice, the downmodder would have to speculate that another moderator would moderate you up again, otherwise your score would be permanently reduced (and if that upmodera...
[07:03:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:Proggy - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:27] <exec> 08└─Terminus is a monospace font that looks good without hinting and anti-aliasing.
[07:03:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:mandatory reading - Donald Knuth - 06Crypto Needs More Transparency - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:56] <exec> 08└─Donald Knuth did not invent LaTeX, but only TeX itself. LaTeX was a TeX extension later created by Leslie Lamport.
[07:04:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Great - 06Trees Are Much Better at Creating Clouds and Cooling the Climate Than We Thought - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:04:17] <exec> 08└─In ancient times, the billion was much smaller. :-)
[07:05:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:"Is God real?" is the most boring question - 0625 New Dead Sea Scrolls Revealed - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:28] <exec> 08└─Why not? If a lot of people "believe" in it, that means its stood the test of time.
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[08:01:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02WHO GIVES A FUCK - 06Apple Vs. Samsung Patent Fight Reaches the US Supreme Court - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:01:38] <exec> 08└─First World Problems become First World Supreme Court Cases. Apple & Samsung can go fuck themselves.
[08:01:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:kill the poor people - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:01:52] <exec> 08└─So, in your small town, everyone can drive from their front porch, to the office, and never walk in traffic, even to cross the street? We are ALL pedestrians. Unless you're a Trump or a Clinton, you walk. Doesn't matter much that you only have to walk ten miles per week, versus some poor slob who wa...
[08:01:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Entropy [4228] (Score:2) 02Re:Wonder how this will work in California? - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:01:56] <exec> 08└─It's stupid for a pedestrian to have right of way if they walk into the middle of a highway(not at a crosswalk). In most parts of the country if they do this and get mowed down it's their own fault...try to be less stupid in your next life.
[08:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Wonder how this will work in California? - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 1646 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:01:58] <exec> 08└─It's a combination of history, and common sense. Pedestrians should have the right of way. As I pointed out above, we are all pedestrians. Unless you keep your car in your living room, you have to walk to the car. And, unless you park inside your office, you have to walk to the car again to go home...
[08:02:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Only thing worse than Dragons! - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:02:03] <exec> 08└─And whether said .44 caliber was packing depleted Uranium Armor-piercing 265 gr. vacuum-filled projectiles, backed by 55 grs. of the finest nitrocellulose smokeless with a muzzle velocity in excess of . . . . Damn, got runned over before I could finish the whole ammosexual routine. Don't you just ha...
[08:02:04] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] 02It's what sells - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 362 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:02:04] <exec> 08└─I guess they deciding factor was coming neither from the ethicist nor from the coders, but from the marketing department: They probably decided that most customers would value their own safety higher than the safety of others, so cars that do the same will sell better. Remember, in the end there's o...
[08:02:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedBear [1734] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:It's what sells - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:02:07] <exec> 08└─I guess they deciding factor was coming neither from the ethicist nor from the coders, but from the marketing department: They probably decided that most customers would value their own safety higher than the safety of others, so cars that do the same will sell better. Remember, in the end there's o...
[08:02:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score:2) 02Re:It's what sells - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 1432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:02:09] <exec> 08└─It is something I think most people have an uncomfortable feeling if they admit to themselves, but unless you really are a selfless and pure and fully willing to sacrifice yourself for others, most people will want a self driving car that protects them at all costs. Presumably once someone has kids,...
[08:02:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's what sells - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 965 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:02:11] <exec> 08└─> It is something I think most people have an uncomfortable feeling if they admit to themselves, but unless you really are a selfless and pure and fully willing to sacrifice yourself for others, most people will want a self driving car that protects them at all costs. Presumably once someone has kid...
[08:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03quintessence [6227] (Score:2) 02Re:Mercedes is right - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 1204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:02:21] <exec> 08└─It would probably be easier just to code for the majority of the laws and let the fickle finger of fate take it from there (at least regardless of circumstances, the law is on your side). While it is still probable to bias the system slightly even under those confines, announcing it like MB is just...
[08:02:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03cccc828 [2368] (Score:1) 02Have fun in German courts - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 1677 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:02:25] <exec> 08└─The problem is not that you cannot solve the trolley problem (you can weigh lives in numerous ways), the problem, at least in Germany, is that you are not allowed to weigh one live against another. Not even one vs. a million. See also Luftsicherheitsgesetz [wikipedia.org]. The moment an engineer pro...
[08:02:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Entropy [4228] (Score:2) 02Please o please, think of the children... - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 754 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:02:27] <exec> 08└─Everyone's argument is always going to be child porn(strike that), I mean children. This is far more likely to involve this scenario: You're driving along, and some fine homeless gentleman awaits your car on the side of the highway. When the time is right he steps out and gets wacked by your car. He...
[08:03:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Re:Jester - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:03:31] <exec> 08└─I thought Jester looked like it’d be a fun font to use for GUI stuff, but it’s lacking symbols like @ # _ as well as common Unicode characters like curly–quotes. Damn.
[08:05:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:2) 02Re:"Is God real?" is the most boring question - 0625 New Dead Sea Scrolls Revealed - 2060 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:05:37] <exec> 08└─A lot of people believe in astrology. A lot of people believe the Sun goes around the Earth (seriously, not even joking, even in this day and age - and that's without the technicality that we believe the Earth goes around the Sun when they both orbit a common centre of gravity). A lot of people beli...
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[09:01:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:kill the poor people - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:01:50] <exec> 08└─You're welcome, and I hope the crackrock you bought with the money was a good one.
[09:01:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Re:Wonder how this will work in California? - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 601 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:01:53] <exec> 08└─I believe that is true in every state, with few exceptions. The interstate highways would be one exception. It's against the law to hitchhike, ride horses, motorized bicycles, farm implements, go-karts, or anything other than licensed, insured motor vehicles. There may be some other exceptions to th...
[09:02:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02Re:Only thing worse than Dragons! - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:02:01] <exec> 08└─Since when is Mercedes-Benz not a German company?
[09:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score:2) 02Re:It's what sells - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 893 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:02:07] <exec> 08└─But we are not talking about such collisions, because the safety of the car passengers are guaranteed. Such low speed impacts (say 30mph) are obvious and pose no moral dilemma. This issue deals with the accidents which will cause the loss of life. That is where the moral ambiguity comes about. Nobod...
[09:02:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Buses lack safety devices because... - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 1068 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:02:10] <exec> 08└─* They generally travel at relatively low speeds * They are driven exclusively by professional drivers * Their sheer mass makes them nearly impervious to collisions with passenger vehicles * Their ride height keeps their passengers out of the path of most vehicles that would hit them (although the n...
[09:02:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Have fun in German courts - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 563 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:02:22] <exec> 08└─Thank you for the citation. It is interesting and relevant as Mercedes-Benz is based in Germany. It is also insane. We must allow many innocent people to die, in order to protect the lives of other people who are also going to die. I guess this is what happens when you dedicate a concept as abstract...
[09:02:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03cccc828 [2368] (Score:1) 02Re:Have fun in German courts - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 750 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:02:24] <exec> 08└─As a foreigner living in Germany I think it is not the worst of places to live. You have to understand the German laws (especially the fundamental ones) in light of the horrors of the NSDAP regime. Back then the needs of the many ("Aryans") outweighed the need of the few ("Untermenschen" roughly "su...
[09:02:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02Re:Please o please, think of the children... - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:02:27] <exec> 08└─I think that's a good point, but this already happens, and nitpicking but he would have to be kind of stupid if he jumps out on the highway. I would rather go for one of those nice 25mph school zone places and sue the the shit of someone instead of getting smeared on the highway.
[09:05:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Name one other equal written work... - 0625 New Dead Sea Scrolls Revealed - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:05:31] <exec> 08└─At least the bible (and a few other ancient works of literature) had an arguably measurable impact on the development of western culture.
[09:05:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Is God real?" is the most boring question - 0625 New Dead Sea Scrolls Revealed - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:05:40] <exec> 08└─And what religious life is trying to do is to provide us with tools for how to keep being the best version of ourselves.
[09:05:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:sed s/Bible/Harry Potter/ - 0625 New Dead Sea Scrolls Revealed - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:05:56] <exec> 08└─It hasn't taken Jedi long to catch on :-)
[09:10:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Interesting details omitted - 06Missle Attack from Yemen Targets US Navy Destroyer, Saudi Air Base - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:10:40] <exec> 08└─Yeah, not really worried about you getting hit. Except that the Good Ol' USA would use it as an excuse to kill yet more people. You're still fucked in the head.
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[10:01:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Let's get this out the way shall we? - 06Wind-Powered Device Can Produce 11 Gallons Per Day of Clean Drinking Water From the Air - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:01:41] <exec> 08└─Yes, it all sounds very good, but nobody will be able to use the damn thing until somebody invents a shiny gold effeminate automaton that can speaks the binary language of moisture vaporators.
[10:01:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Let's get this out the way shall we? - 06Wind-Powered Device Can Produce 11 Gallons Per Day of Clean Drinking Water From the Air - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:01:42] <exec> 08└─Can I dry hump the droid while the dehumidifier harvests all the moisture out of the air?
[10:01:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Let's get this out the way shall we? - 06Wind-Powered Device Can Produce 11 Gallons Per Day of Clean Drinking Water From the Air - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:01:44] <exec> 08└─Only if you pay up front.
[10:01:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02looks like a scam site - 06Wind-Powered Device Can Produce 11 Gallons Per Day of Clean Drinking Water From the Air - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:01:46] <exec> 08└─VICI-Labs has no links to actual things, just submit you super idea show me specifications and plans if this is meant to help poor people and not scam investors
[10:01:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02Re:looks like a scam site - 06Wind-Powered Device Can Produce 11 Gallons Per Day of Clean Drinking Water From the Air - 702 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:01:49] <exec> 08└─It's not a complex or very new idea. It's just an air well [wikipedia.org] with attached to a vertical axis wind turbine. For the price it might be worthwhile, but there are quite a few designs without moving parts or the need for pumps that could break many miles from any place with facilities to r...
[10:01:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02unclosed tags O/T - 06Wind-Powered Device Can Produce 11 Gallons Per Day of Clean Drinking Water From the Air - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:01:51] <exec> 08└─Fuck I should have used preview. An edit button would be nice, maybe with a short activation window, say up to 10 minutes after posting?
[10:01:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Dust and stuff? - 06Wind-Powered Device Can Produce 11 Gallons Per Day of Clean Drinking Water From the Air - 610 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:01:53] <exec> 08└─A lot of these dry places are rather dusty. I'd like to know how it deals with dust and other airborne crap. Specifically how it gets 11 gallons a day of moisture from air into that underground collection chamber without significant amounts of dust etc getting stuck in there as well. Would cleaning/...
[10:01:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dust and stuff? - 06Wind-Powered Device Can Produce 11 Gallons Per Day of Clean Drinking Water From the Air - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:01:55] <exec> 08└─I just used Google to convert the 11 gallons from the summary into liters (it would have been nice if the summary provided this, BTW), and got a bit less than 42 liters. Which is much less than the 1000 liters claimed in your link.
[10:01:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Prior art - 06Wind-Powered Device Can Produce 11 Gallons Per Day of Clean Drinking Water From the Air - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:01:57] <exec> 08└─Frank Herbert was there first [wikia.com].
[10:02:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Samsung should leave - 06Apple Vs. Samsung Patent Fight Reaches the US Supreme Court - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:02:06] <exec> 08└─Samsung should just leave USA and let Apple suck the blood of american suckers. This is basically a PR war which has been turned into monetary war by Apple and the jury system of California. They should just focus on the PR.
[10:02:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:kill the poor people - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:02:22] <exec> 08└─It's the same as the question, "Who has the right of way, the Ford or the Toyota?" And the answer is the same: "It depends on what they are doing."
[10:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:kill the poor people - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:02:24] <exec> 08└─We are ALL pedestrians. But some pedestrians are more equal than others. Think in terms of risk.
[10:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:kill the poor people - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:02:26] <exec> 08└─Exactly. And when cars start being able to talk to each other when they are nearby, it will go one step further. The car with the most valuable occupants will be determined to be the one to be "saved" if a crash is found to be inevitable.
[10:02:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:kill the poor people - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 463 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:02:28] <exec> 08└─Lads, you are so last century. There will be a real-time auction between insurance companies so that the guys with a cheaper life insurance policy payment are selected as the main victims. Of course this takes precious milliseconds off the reaction time, so I guess the preferred victims will be give...
[10:02:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:kill the poor people - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 587 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:02:30] <exec> 08└─Pedestrians are on the roadway because they are crossing it, and not even rich people cross streets using vehicles. People walking on the road without sidewalks are required to use road shoulder to do so, and walk in a single width column. If they don't, then it is only their fault if they get hit b...
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[10:02:32] <exec> 08└─Good explanation, but it does not take into account the krautness of Mercedes. Just to trace the way German engineers think: - the objective of self driving cars is? replacing the driver with algorithms and sensors - the mercedes driver is, statistically speaking, an asshole - therefore the algorith...
[10:03:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Have fun in German courts - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:03:02] <exec> 08└─While I appreciate the Germans' need to be conservative about anything that might lead to repeats of the Nazi regime, the reality is that you must, when in a position of policymaking or safety engineering, always weigh lives. Whether against other lives, political costs, financial costs, or whatever...
[10:03:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Please o please, think of the children... - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:03:05] <exec> 08└─You can find Youtube videos of people committing suicide in this way. I have, personally, also experienced pedestrians walking right down the middle of a major arterial road (that had sidewalks, no less). Wearing dark clothing in the middle of the night, naturally.
[10:03:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondrake [2658] (Score:2) 02not very Smart, Mercedes... - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 1473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:03:08] <exec> 08└─I hope the article is not completely correct. If it is implemented, it is stupid, and Mercedes will be in trouble in many countries. As mentioned above, in Germany for example, you are not allowed to weigh lives against each other in advance of the situation. In several other EU countries, the car d...
[10:03:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Car safety measures - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:03:10] <exec> 08└─Cars are equipped with many safety features for the persons in the car (with Mercedes being on the higher price range I expect them standard equipped with most of these). The thing is that there should not be a question of the driver or pedestrians being killed to preventing an accident, but if to k...
[10:03:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Brexit Britain Will Get There First - 06Obama: "America Will Take the Giant Leap to Mars" - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:03:23] <exec> 08└─With the billions of pounds we'll save by leaving the EU, and being freed-up from collaborating on limp-wristed robotic space missions, Brexit Britain (OK, what's left of it) will set its sights on a manned Mars mission. Grand Statesman Farage will make the announcement as soon as he is democratical...
[10:03:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02There is no moon - 06Obama: "America Will Take the Giant Leap to Mars" - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:03:24] <exec> 08└─I do not get it, instead of building things on the moon so we can build things in orbit for the BIG ASS space ship we will need to get our big asses to mars, NASA wants to jump from ground to mars up a huge gravity well, oh and in the mean time try to bring an asteroid into earth orbit, for which th...
[10:04:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Jester - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:04:16] <exec> 08└─They say disasters come in pair, but there is nothing like Comic sans. Thank God.
[10:06:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Manifest Destiny - 0625 New Dead Sea Scrolls Revealed - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:06:12] <exec> 08└─As per above, the desert appears to have cities in it.
[10:08:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02JS for the lulz - 06The State Of JavaScript: Introduction - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:08:39] <exec> 08└─> I got over 9000 answers meme alert...
[10:10:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Mmmmm... after further testing - 06More Than 800 Languages in a Single Typeface: Noto - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:35] <exec> 08└─Who ιs number 1?
[10:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Mmmmm... after further testing - 06More Than 800 Languages in a Single Typeface: Noto - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:36] <exec> 08└─You are number 6141.
[10:10:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Mmmmm... after further testing - 06More Than 800 Languages in a Single Typeface: Noto - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:38] <exec> 08└─I just realized that if i split my uid in two i have 39, my country code, and 02. Maybe there is one village per country.
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[11:01:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not In My Desert - 06Tomatoes Grown in Australian Desert from Sunshine and Seawater - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:01:53] <exec> 08└─Noooooooooooo you can't grow FOOD in the DESERT! If you take the desert where will we have BURNING MAN! Think of all the stupid motherfuckers who need BURNING MAN! LALALALALALA CAN'T TAKE THE DESERT FROM MEEEEEEEEEEEE
[11:01:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Nice, but expensive - 06Tomatoes Grown in Australian Desert from Sunshine and Seawater - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:01:54] <exec> 08└─This is great and I'd like to see more built, but I'd like to know how many tomatoes they have to sell to break even on that $200million startup cost.
[11:01:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Arable land is not a problem - 06Tomatoes Grown in Australian Desert from Sunshine and Seawater - 1482 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:01:56] <exec> 08└─This is all fine, and fits well with efforts to bring agriculture directly into cities. These intensive, enclosed hydroponics operations can do amazing things, but it's not all milk-and-honey. If you get pernicious fungi or bacteria into one of these operations, you have a serious problem. They get...
[11:02:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Samsung should leave - 06Apple Vs. Samsung Patent Fight Reaches the US Supreme Court - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:02:21] <exec> 08└─Apple is welcome to leave too. Just get the fuck out and move the entire cumpany to China. Employ one rounded-rectangle designer in California so they can continue to label every piece of shit "designed in California by a gay hipster."
[11:02:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wonder how this will work in California? - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:02:49] <exec> 08└─So if such a Mercedes injures or kills one or more pedestrians, does the owner or the car company face attempted murder or manslaughter charges.
[11:02:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Only thing worse than Dragons! - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:02:54] <exec> 08└─Mercedes-Benz is a car brand, not a company. The company making that car is called Daimler (formerly Daimler-Benz, but they dropped the Benz part when they bought Chrysler, forming Daimler-Chrysler, and did not re-add it after selling Chrysler). However both the brand and the company are indeed Germ...
[11:04:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:ttf embedded coloured unicode emojis - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:04:42] <exec> 08└─I’m fine with my black fonts for emoj or otherwise.
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[12:01:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02Re:Nice, but expensive - 06Tomatoes Grown in Australian Desert from Sunshine and Seawater - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:01:39] <exec> 08└─According to TFA they produce 33 million pounds of tomatoes per year. Shouldn't take too long if their expenses are low enough.
[12:01:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kell [292] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:Arable land is not a problem - 06Tomatoes Grown in Australian Desert from Sunshine and Seawater - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:01:41] <exec> 08└─My bigger issue with the article is the unstated implication that there is a shortage of arable land. There isn't.
[12:01:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Arable land is not a problem - 06Tomatoes Grown in Australian Desert from Sunshine and Seawater - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:01:43] <exec> 08└─I bet he's never even played knifey-spoony.
[12:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dust and stuff? - 06Wind-Powered Device Can Produce 11 Gallons Per Day of Clean Drinking Water From the Air - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:01:58] <exec> 08└─I think you could easily filter that out when pumping the water up. The problem I saw was dust in the bearings in the rotating part. Also, they claim that the soil is always cooler than the air. But if you flow in hot air (and it cools, so the heat goes somewhere) the surroundings will warm up as we...
[12:02:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02TV VCR combo - 06Wind-Powered Device Can Produce 11 Gallons Per Day of Clean Drinking Water From the Air - 852 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:02:00] <exec> 08└─The advantage of all-in-one devices is the UN or WTF can air drop it into areas that have been liberated and made safe for democracy and all that snarky stuff The disadvantage of all-in-one devices is they usually are two substandard parts without an extension cord and not terribly flexible much lik...
[12:02:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:kill the poor people - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 1882 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:02:31] <exec> 08└─thanks for triggering my rant: drive to work on rural roads, one where it is 55 MPH and i am driving directly into the sunrise, and with the glare of the sun, the glare off the hood, the visor pulled down, i ALMOST hit two stupid kids walking TWO FEET inside the road edge (with NO paved bicycle lane...
[12:02:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:kill the poor people - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:02:33] <exec> 08└─Sounds like an ironclad case of you are driving too fast for conditions to me, not pedestrians, being the problem.
[12:03:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03cccc828 [2368] (Score:1) 02Re:Have fun in German courts - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:03:07] <exec> 08└─I agree. There is no question that these problems must be solved for autonomous systems, the discussion currently is how to best solve them. You could for example treat them like vaccines (they might cause side effects and complications), power plants (their exhaust kill/reduce the life span of rand...
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[13:01:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Won't help them - 06Amid Fallout from Hack and Spying, Yahoo! Disables Email Forwarding - 444 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:45] <exec> 08└─Yeah. I forward anything not marked for deletion to my private email address from my gmail one. It's effectively an overglorified spam blocker for me, and an easy way for people to get stuff to a recognizable email that's easy to convey (i.e. there's no reasonable person on earth I'd have to talk to...
[13:01:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Spying - 06Amid Fallout from Hack and Spying, Yahoo! Disables Email Forwarding - 905 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:01:48] <exec> 08└─Looks bad, but context... One of the most common ways for an account to be compromised by a 3rd party is for them to get in based on a guessed password (as in the same password was used on another site that got hacked and now the hackers are trying that password everywhere they think you might have...
[13:02:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Arable land is not a problem - 06Tomatoes Grown in Australian Desert from Sunshine and Seawater - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:02:00] <exec> 08└─> In Africa, the problems are different, but again, a shortage of land is not the problem. Just as an example, RHodesia Gee, why is it that when brad talks about Africa his first thought is Rhodesia? [nydailynews.com] You think you are being coy and people can't see through your shit, you really are...
[13:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:TV VCR combo - 06Wind-Powered Device Can Produce 11 Gallons Per Day of Clean Drinking Water From the Air - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:20] <exec> 08└─When all you've got is a TV-VCR combo, every problem starts to look like a movie marathon.
[13:02:52] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Bot [3902] 02Re:kill the poor people - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 449 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:52] <exec> 08└─Good explanation, but it does not take into account the krautness of Mercedes. Just to trace the way German engineers think: - the objective of self driving cars is? replacing the driver with algorithms and sensors - the mercedes driver is, statistically speaking, an asshole - therefore the algorith...
[13:02:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:4, Funny) 02Re:kill the poor people - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:54] <exec> 08└─It's actually a well known fact that the a Mercedes doesn't actually move itself. The driver gets into the car and then the world revolves around them.
[13:02:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:kill the poor people - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:56] <exec> 08└─Wait, I'm poor? Seems they forgot to tell me! I guess I must have overlooked a minus sign on my bank account balance, as it looked quite positive to me. But hey, maybe I'm not really walking. Maybe this is just a simulation, and I'm secretly being put into a van as soon as I leave home, to be let ou...
[13:02:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:kill the poor people - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:58] <exec> 08└─My g/f and I are almost certainly in the top decile financially in the country where we live. Howevr, we walk everywhere that's within a kilometer or two. Neither of us own a car. Neither of us even has a driving license, as public transport everywhere we've lived has always been quick, cheap, and e...
[13:03:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wonder how this will work in California? - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:06] <exec> 08└─There's a difference between "break" and "brake". You might want to learn that difference, because your post doesn't say what you probably meant it to say.
[13:03:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mercedes is right - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 636 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:27] <exec> 08└─> No one will buy a self-driving car if they know it might deliberately kill them. I agree, with a slight variation. It is well known people do not care for their own safety on the road. We would drive lean and low cars which let you feel the speed completely if we cared, instead of a too heavy, too...
[13:03:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The Risk of "Space Brain" - 06Obama: "America Will Take the Giant Leap to Mars" - 944 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:03:50] <exec> 08└─.. is what happens when you believe that the Earth is a spinning ball, zooming away in nothingness. No telescope has ever detected any of the proclaimed curvature of the Earth. Stratospheric balloon footage does not lie either. There is an increasing number of things an landmarks that are viewed by...
[13:06:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02No it Does Not - 06ExoMars arrives at the Red Planet on Sunday - 899 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:06:21] <exec> 08└─No telescope has ever detected any of the proclaimed curvature of the Earth. Stratospheric balloon footage does not lie either. There is an increasing number of things an landmarks that are viewed by positions impossible on a globe world, and those demand that the Earth is, at least as far as those...
[13:08:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Mobile code is still evil - 06The State Of JavaScript: Introduction - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:08:35] <exec> 08└─A VM or OS does not require a second device. If you want a good design of what a mobile OS/ desktop application should look like have a look at the inferno architecture developed at Bell Labs. http://www.vitanuova.com [vitanuova.com]
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[14:01:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Thunderbird + gmail for me - 06Amid Fallout from Hack and Spying, Yahoo! Disables Email Forwarding - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:01:57] <exec> 08└─I've got Thunderbird monitoring 2 gmail accounts, it downloads the email to my laptop and lets me do what I want with it. Did this because gmail wanted me to use tags and didn't let me make folders, which IMHO is just braindead. I think they finally allow folders, but I set this up years ago and see...
[14:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:Nice, but expensive - 06Tomatoes Grown in Australian Desert from Sunshine and Seawater - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:07] <exec> 08└─Wow, at current exchange rates that's over 50million AUD in the first year! Well worth the investment.
[14:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:unclosed tags O/T - 06Wind-Powered Device Can Produce 11 Gallons Per Day of Clean Drinking Water From the Air - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:26] <exec> 08└─should have used preview
[14:02:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:unclosed tags O/T - 06Wind-Powered Device Can Produce 11 Gallons Per Day of Clean Drinking Water From the Air - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:27] <exec> 08└─Hey, are you the guy who keeps creating these support tickets for an "unsend email" button?
[14:03:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Only thing worse than Dragons! - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:22] <exec> 08└─I thought you were a brit? In which case you should know the difference between the upper class and the upper middle class. Merc and Beamer owners (Volvo, Lexus, Audi, etc. too) fall predominantly in the latter.
[14:03:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:It's what sells - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:30] <exec> 08└─> core tenants minor nit: tenets Unless you meant Tennents, the superstrong lager?
[14:03:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Make it configurable with magnetic rfid - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:39] <exec> 08└─What if you're the only organ donor and there could be a net gain in human life?
[14:03:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lame duck announcement... - 06Obama: "America Will Take the Giant Leap to Mars" - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:56] <exec> 08└─IIRC the joke was that Dan Quayle wanted us to go to the Sun.
[14:03:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Brexit Britain Will Get There First - 06Obama: "America Will Take the Giant Leap to Mars" - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:58] <exec> 08└─Ooh, what about giant mechs [wikia.com] too?
[14:04:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:There is no moon - 06Obama: "America Will Take the Giant Leap to Mars" - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:04:01] <exec> 08└─No, they were always pretty low. They tell me that 100 is about average, which seems to represent the cognitive capabilities of a squirrel.
[14:04:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:There is no moon - 06Obama: "America Will Take the Giant Leap to Mars" - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:04:03] <exec> 08└─Don't insult the squirrels.
[14:04:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Um, the default? - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:04:45] <exec> 08└─Just another reason I love this place.
[14:04:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03pendorbound [2688] (Score:2) 02Re:Jester - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:04:59] <exec> 08└─Marker Felt is a close second, IMHO.
[14:07:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Name one other equal written work... - 0625 New Dead Sea Scrolls Revealed - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:04] <exec> 08└─Ah, you're right. I was thinking of Christianity. (And let's not forget Islam since it has the same brain damage.) The Jews seem happy mutilating our genitals at birth and then keeping to themselves.
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[15:01:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03barista [5219] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Nasty shocks - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:01:36] <exec> 08└─In the Web 3.0 I want a markup tag that delivers a nasty shock to cyber-spies...
[15:01:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nasty shocks - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:01:38] <exec> 08└─How do you start an RFC?
[15:01:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Insightful) 02The joys of marketing hype - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:01:39] <exec> 08└─I'm still quite unclear about what "Web 2.0" was supposed to involve other than marketing nonsense, so I'm hereby declaring the creation of Web 4.0, which is a vague collection of ideas that sound really good but don't have anything remotely resembling technical implementation yet. I'm sure TedX and...
[15:01:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03WizardFusion [498] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:The joys of marketing hype - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:01:42] <exec> 08└─Other marketing names may include... - iWeb - Web X - Internet Of Web (IoW) - Web As A Service (WaaS)
[15:01:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The joys of marketing hype - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:01:44] <exec> 08└─Cyberweb.
[15:01:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:The joys of marketing hype - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:01:46] <exec> 08└─Depends whom you ask. It was either about social networking or about massive amounts of ads. And because the social networking sites were mostly all free, I'm not sure that the distinction is particularly important. Either way, web2.0 was about handing your personal information to all sorts of stran...
[15:01:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The joys of marketing hype - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:01:48] <exec> 08└─I thought Web 2.0 was about sites built with tons of JavaScript, XMLHttpRequest (the one thing that survived from ActiveX) and Ajax.
[15:01:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02you wanted it - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 641 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:01:50] <exec> 08└─You wanted it. We had an open, noncommercial, decentralized Internet in the mid-90s. People voted for a closed, walled-garden dominated, commercial Internet. No one forced anyone to abandon the open web and open software development for closed platforms and walled gardens. They did it because that's...
[15:01:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02PULL MY BRAIN STEM OUT - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:01:52] <exec> 08└─I WANT TO PULL IT OUT!
[15:02:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:Thunderbird + gmail for me - 06Amid Fallout from Hack and Spying, Yahoo! Disables Email Forwarding - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:04] <exec> 08└─me too-ism here... use tbird for all my accts... just flummoxed that -apparently- any and all email clients follow the lead of gmail and started FORCING MY -repeat MY- email into categories THEY feel is appropriate... oh really ? well fuck you very muvh for that non-help i did not want... the furthe...
[15:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Thunderbird + gmail for me - 06Amid Fallout from Hack and Spying, Yahoo! Disables Email Forwarding - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:05] <exec> 08└─Well, thankfully they did put this silly "Do you Yahoo!?" line at the bottom of each email sent from their service (I have no idea if they still do that). That back then was for me the reason not to get an email account with them.
[15:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02medireview - 06Amid Fallout from Hack and Spying, Yahoo! Disables Email Forwarding - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:07] <exec> 08└─These were the same people that had "medireview" inserted into all kinds of text, weren't they? A botched attempt to disarm javascript "eval" functions from getting called.
[15:02:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:medireview - 06Amid Fallout from Hack and Spying, Yahoo! Disables Email Forwarding - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:10] <exec> 08└─I have no idea. I think it's more than a decade since I last visited a Yahoo page.
[15:02:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03WizardFusion [498] (Score:2) 02FastMail - 06Amid Fallout from Hack and Spying, Yahoo! Disables Email Forwarding - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:12] <exec> 08└─I moved from Yahoo to FastMail about a month or so ago. It was super easy to move as FM just did a direct import, created all the folders and everything. Simple. I am glad I moved now
[15:02:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02legalize it don't criticize it - 06Amid Fallout from Hack and Spying, Yahoo! Disables Email Forwarding - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:14] <exec> 08└─glad I still have some free safe-mail.net accounts before they went all batshit and required a shitload of information in order to register! but seriously, folks, riseup has a nice chill free email service, worth sending in a donation or two now and then just out of love.
[15:02:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Cock.li - 06Amid Fallout from Hack and Spying, Yahoo! Disables Email Forwarding - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:16] <exec> 08└─Cock.li has free email. I particularly enjoy the free horsefucker.org and cocaine.ninja free webmail accounts!
[15:02:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Cock.li - 06Amid Fallout from Hack and Spying, Yahoo! Disables Email Forwarding - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:18] <exec> 08└─Mod parent on-topic.
[15:02:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nice, but expensive - 06Tomatoes Grown in Australian Desert from Sunshine and Seawater - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:29] <exec> 08└─Except in Australia they find the name "tomato" odd so they call them "chazzwazzers".
[15:02:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03aclarke [2049] (Score:3, Insightful) 02SaltWATER - 06Tomatoes Grown in Australian Desert from Sunshine and Seawater - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:35] <exec> 08└─In all the times I've been to eastern California and Nevada, I've never seen a preponderance of seawater. That leaves me unsure of how this particular technology is well suited to that part of the US. I do know someone who has a shrimp farm at the Salton Sea. She probably wouldn't appreciate it bein...
[15:02:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:unclosed tags O/T - 06Wind-Powered Device Can Produce 11 Gallons Per Day of Clean Drinking Water From the Air - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:51] <exec> 08└─Hey, if we want to be coddled we can always go back to The Green Site where we *have to* preview before we can submit. And occasionally endure 5 minutes of buffer time if they think we're posting too fast :P "Great power great responsibility" blah blah
[15:02:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:looks like a scam site - 06Wind-Powered Device Can Produce 11 Gallons Per Day of Clean Drinking Water From the Air - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:53] <exec> 08└─The problem I see is that in an arid desert there is so little moisture in the air that there is nothing to distill. The UC Berkeley Gill Tract Farm is located about 1 Km from the San Francisco Bay, where the average humidity is high.
[15:02:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dust and stuff? - 06Wind-Powered Device Can Produce 11 Gallons Per Day of Clean Drinking Water From the Air - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:57] <exec> 08└─Yeah, that confused me too. I also thought for sure that there were 100 liters per gallon too before you ran the conversion. Boy, I guess with the metric system you lose all sense of proportion with your love of powers of 10.
[15:03:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score:2) 02Replacement for GrokLaw? - 06Apple Vs. Samsung Patent Fight Reaches the US Supreme Court - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:03:11] <exec> 08└─We need some decent coverage. Any good options in the post-GrokLaw world?
[15:03:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Best outcome - 06Apple Vs. Samsung Patent Fight Reaches the US Supreme Court - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:03:12] <exec> 08└─The eight justices sing a song together about the case and the two litigants, and postpone a ruling for twelve months.
[15:03:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Best outcome - 06Apple Vs. Samsung Patent Fight Reaches the US Supreme Court - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:03:15] <exec> 08└─The case was ultimately dismissed because the evidence had exploded.
[15:03:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02Re:kill the poor people - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:03:35] <exec> 08└─so I guess the preferred victims will be given a score in advance.
[15:03:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Wonder how this will work in California? - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 770 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:03:46] <exec> 08└─What duty? They have a responsibility to themselves to be on the look out for things like this because the court can't order them back to life or uninjured. But, there's no legal obligation for them to do that at the present. It just influences the charges that are brought and the ultimate amount of...
[15:03:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Wonder how this will work in California? - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 1033 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:03:51] <exec> 08└─They absolutely do have the right to do that. Just not all the time everywhere. If what you said were true, then vehicular manslaughter wouldn't be a thing in cases like that. Also, the correct thing for the car to do is to kill the people in the vehicle if it assesses that the number that would be...
[15:04:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Make it configurable with magnetic rfid - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:04:14] <exec> 08└─Like in this movie [youtube.com]? I'd consider it a different topic, but probably that's what makes the ethical discussions so difficult.
[15:05:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Brexit Britain Will Get There First - 06Obama: "America Will Take the Giant Leap to Mars" - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:05:24] <exec> 08└─I endorse this plan, but only if we can have all the spacecraft built in a retro-50s aesthetic. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[15:05:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Risk of "Space Brain" - 06Obama: "America Will Take the Giant Leap to Mars" - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:05:24] <exec> 08└─Please tell me: Have you ever been at the sea and watched a departing ship on its way past the horizon?
[15:06:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Jester - 06 - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:10] <exec> 08└─I was going to say the bastard lovechild of Comic Sans and Times Roman (or any serif font really I guess).
[15:06:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Monospaced - 06 - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:25] <exec> 08└─You know you're a nerd when...you reinstall your Linux partition and then fire up the terminal and think, "Crap, I should've written down what the font settings were before I wiped the old one." Then those first few days where the different highlighting and font drives you nuts before you stop notic...
[15:08:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:sed s/Bible/Harry Potter/ - 0625 New Dead Sea Scrolls Revealed - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:37] <exec> 08└─If they found an authentic 2000 year old Harry Potter manuscript, that indeed would be a discovery that would dwarf even the biggest archaeological findings up to now. It would certainly question a lot of things we are taking for granted.
[15:08:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Dead Sea Scrolls - 0625 New Dead Sea Scrolls Revealed - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:08:39] <exec> 08└─So the Sea Scrolls are dead? The natural question to ask is: How did they die? Did they die of natural cause, or were they killed?
[15:09:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I keep getting them mixed up - 06FreeBSD 11.0 Released - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:16] <exec> 08└─Which BSD is the one all the cool guys are using?
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[16:01:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Go Team USA - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:01:44] <exec> 08└─As the United States continues to lag behind other industrialized nations in ...
[16:01:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Go Team USA - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:01:46] <exec> 08└─I think they are still number one for weapons per inhabitant.
[16:01:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kilo110 [2853] (Score:2) 02Re:Go Team USA - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:01:48] <exec> 08└─And convicts iirc
[16:01:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Go Team USA - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:01:50] <exec> 08└─By far #1 for percent of population in prison. IIRC by 10 X.
[16:01:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:2) 02I'm sure they can - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:01:52] <exec> 08└─I'm sure the people who are addicted to opiates and drive around high ALL THE TIME will get right on that and buy the newest car with the fancy self-driving AI.
[16:01:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm sure they can - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:01:54] <exec> 08└─What about people impaired by alcohol? Or impaired by Windows 10?
[16:01:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'm sure they can - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:01:56] <exec> 08└─Or people totally pissed off by the election news on the radio?
[16:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Wait - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:01:59] <exec> 08└─We have many more self driving cars on the road today than we did a year ago. Any increase in traffic deaths must mean self driving cars are the cause of the increase - not the solution!
[16:02:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nasty shocks - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:10] <exec> 08└─Open a pub that caters exclusively to knuckle-dragging lorry drivers.
[16:02:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The joys of marketing hype - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 8 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:15] <exec> 08└─WebCloud
[16:02:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Oblig - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:17] <exec> 08└─I'll just leave this here [xkcd.com]...
[16:02:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The joys of marketing hype - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:19] <exec> 08└─Internet of Webs as a Service v(X+1).0
[16:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03lizardloop [4716] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:The joys of marketing hype - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 1103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:24] <exec> 08└─That was my understanding of it. Web 1.0 implied that pages were static and could not accept new content without the involvement of the original author. Web 2.0 seemed to imply the idea of "anyone" being able to upload content to websites. I guess Web 3.0 implies that the hosting is then distributed...
[16:02:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:PULL MY BRAIN STEM OUT - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:28] <exec> 08└─Yeah I know, sometimes they get real itchy and you can't do a thing about it.
[16:02:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:PULL MY BRAIN STEM OUT - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:30] <exec> 08└─Just think about sandpaper.
[16:02:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:PULL MY BRAIN STEM OUT - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:32] <exec> 08└─You're posting as anonymous now, but with the right prodding I'm sure you could be convinced to give up any semblance of privacy, jack yourself into the Internet of Things (IoT), and become part of a neural VR wonderland (uurgh, Keanu Reeves died for our sins!).
[16:02:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Very Interesting, But Not Schtupid.... - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:02:34] <exec> 08└─Actually, I'm getting back to roots by pretty much just living a Web 1.0 life again. As much as possible I avoid paywalls, java, flash..... I do my damndest to not shop online nor will I ever expose my banking, etc. via Internet for safety. Maybe what we need is a search engine that basically says,...
[16:02:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Very Interesting, But Not Schtupid.... - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:36] <exec> 08└─The entire index of that search index consists of a single entry https://example.org [example.org]. It's top ranked because it's both http and https...
[16:02:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score:1) 02Infrastructure - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:02:39] <exec> 08└─TL;DR. As usual with catchy articles, fundamental confusion seems to be pervasive. IMO, the application side is only as centralized as you choose it to be, except, maybe for search where there are truly few offerings. Host your own data. The bigger decentralization effort needs to take place in the...
[16:02:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Thunderbird + gmail for me - 06Amid Fallout from Hack and Spying, Yahoo! Disables Email Forwarding - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:52] <exec> 08└─That's OK. I pity the fools who use any free email provider. Because you, too, will find yourself screwed in time. If you haven't already. [wikipedia.org]
[16:02:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02If you love somebody... - 06Amid Fallout from Hack and Spying, Yahoo! Disables Email Forwarding - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:02:59] <exec> 08└─If you love somebody, set them free... If you're desperate, hold them hostage. I guess 2016 will be known as the year of Linux on the Desktop^W^W^W^WYahoo!'s death?
[16:03:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02And this is why ... - 06Amid Fallout from Hack and Spying, Yahoo! Disables Email Forwarding - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:03:01] <exec> 08└─Using a centralized email provider is a very bad idea. You end up 'stuck', whether you like it or not. Buy yourself a domain name, and host your own email, and you'll never have to worry about your 'provider' (yourself) changing the rules on you. Nor will you ever have to worry about changing your e...
[16:03:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Source of amount? Wholesale? Retail? Costs? - 06Tomatoes Grown in Australian Desert from Sunshine and Seawater - 484 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:13] <exec> 08└─Source of amount? Are you basing your calculation on the retail cost of tomatoes, the wholesale cost, or the actual payments that farmers get ? Farmers gross is much less than retail because of all the intermediate costs - transportation, storage, spoilage, distribution, marketing, sales costs, etc....
[16:03:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:unclosed tags O/T - 06Wind-Powered Device Can Produce 11 Gallons Per Day of Clean Drinking Water From the Air - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:35] <exec> 08└─It's time that the weapon producers finally implement the "undo shot" feature!
[16:04:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03dyingtolive [952] 02Re:kill the poor people - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 151 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:04:23] <exec> 08└─It's actually a well known fact that the a Mercedes doesn't actually move itself. The driver gets into the car and then the world revolves around them.
[16:04:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wonder how this will work in California? - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:04:29] <exec> 08└─Some places allow pedestrians to utilize interstates. Colorado allows bicyclists to use the interstate in some places. That doesn't make them very smart bicyclists though.
[16:06:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02 - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:24] <exec> 08└─This one? http://files.ax86.net [ax86.net] Not quite what I need for my particular monospaced use, but still a nice font. Added to my collection. Thanks!
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[17:01:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Trump will fix that - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:01:56] <exec> 08└─By far #1 for percent of population in prison. IIRC by 10 X.
[17:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Go Team USA - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:01:58] <exec> 08└─No, we're pretty much tied for percent of our population in prison with North Korea. And for some reason a few tiny island nations also match the US. Which is weird. I never quite understood why. But when it comes to nations that aren't microscopic or defined by being a continual humanitarian crisi...
[17:01:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03harmless [1048] (Score:1) 02Re:Go Team USA - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:00] <exec> 08└─US spy technology is very advanced. No other nation is spying on its own population on a larger scale. (Though the UK is not far behind.)
[17:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03harmless [1048] (Score:1) 02Re:Wait - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:06] <exec> 08└─Are we sure it's not related to pirates [junkscience.com]?
[17:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wait - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:08] <exec> 08└─It's the self-driving pirates.
[17:02:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Maybe not - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:02:10] <exec> 08└─Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year
[17:02:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Dystopia - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 696 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:02:13] <exec> 08└─Yes, I will be the naysayer and say that this is a dystopian nightmare in the making. All communications are monitored, and now they are pushing for self driving cars which will be able to monitor not only the movement of its occupants but also the world around them. Smart phones are bad enough, but...
[17:02:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Before you go full-auto - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 382 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:02:15] <exec> 08└─Fix the junkers. Other nations tend to have some kind of road worthiness test for old cars, not just for the drivers. And stop telling people every 4.5 minutes that they need to drink beer to be cool. Not even gonna touch distracted and angry driving... And before anyone points out that Americans dr...
[17:02:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Use-Case Flow [Re:The joys of marketing hype] - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 553 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:36] <exec> 08└─Agreed. Let 1000 's see a practical example with sample data structures and a typical work-flow from machine to machine during the sample transaction between two or more people. Note the inventor of wiki's, Ward Cunningham, recently started a "federated wiki" project to allegedly replace centralized...
[17:02:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Use-Case Flow [Re:The joys of marketing hype] - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:37] <exec> 08└─One option is to use a torrent / blockchain style hosting platform. With increasingly cheap storage space individuals would allocate some amount of their local storage to help the cloud. Ha! It would ACTUALLY be "the cloud" instead of the bullshit "clouds" which are just server farms. Geeks could ru...
[17:02:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:The joys of marketing hype - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:02:39] <exec> 08└─IIRC, "Web 2.0" was an Oreilly trademark. The best definition I have seen: "When the back button does not work."
[17:02:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The joys of marketing hype - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:42] <exec> 08└─That is simple, Web 2.0 was about increasing the interactions of people online. There were always chat rooms, forums, etc. but 2.0 was about sites where users generated content or interacted with content. Not a new concept, just an expansion. Mostly marketing bullshit to get investment in such platf...
[17:02:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:you wanted it - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:45] <exec> 08└─All the open social platforms I saw had annoying barriers to entry. It should not be any more difficult than visiting a page, creating your account in a few simple steps, then logging on and participating. We didn't have blockchain software back then which is what a lot of the decentralized projects...
[17:02:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:you wanted it - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:47] <exec> 08└─The open, noncommercial, decentralized Internet is still around; example [mcgrewbooks.com]. Er, S/N is an even better example. It's just that the open, noncommercial, decentralized Internet has been buried in commercial content, just making it harder to find. I do miss the days when the only ads we...
[17:02:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Lots of wrongness - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 629 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:02:56] <exec> 08└─The original purpose of the internet was dreamed up by the good folks in ARPA, which was to provide a resilient communications system for the military; especially nuclear sites in the event of nuclear war. Any attempt to build a decentralised system on IPv[46] is pretty well doomed, because IPv[46]...
[17:02:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lots of wrongness - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:58] <exec> 08└─Until then it's all masturbation.
[17:03:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lots of wrongness - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 351 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:00] <exec> 08└─Only a wireless system can work in this case, and you can quickly run into trouble with interference if you want people to run their own mesh network. Taps can always be made into the flow of data, so you're argument is kind of useless. The only real answer here is encryption and tech like TOR that...
[17:03:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score:2) 02Rinse and Repeat - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:03:02] <exec> 08└─1. Build shiny new open, secure web. 2. Shiny new open, secure web gets compromised, exploited, monetized, and commercialized. 3. Goto (1
[17:03:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:And this is why ... - 06Amid Fallout from Hack and Spying, Yahoo! Disables Email Forwarding - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:26] <exec> 08└─I currently use a web-host to handle my e-mail for me (and basic web-page).
[17:03:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Arable land is not a problem - 06Tomatoes Grown in Australian Desert from Sunshine and Seawater - 369 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:44] <exec> 08└─When the evil locals reclaimed their land from the colonials, and the colonials used every avenue at their disposal to punish them and shut them off the worldwide markets, it was clearly demonstrated that the stupid monkeys were incapable of taking care of that land nearly as well as the good courag...
[17:03:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:SaltWATER - 06Tomatoes Grown in Australian Desert from Sunshine and Seawater - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:46] <exec> 08└─Which brand of shrimp? I'd really like to make sure I never eat them given the pollution levels.
[17:03:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Whence the nutrients? - 06Tomatoes Grown in Australian Desert from Sunshine and Seawater - 538 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:03:48] <exec> 08└─Sun they have. Why they built vertically isn't clear - what's wrong with putting the greenhouses at ground level? But fine, whatever. You couldn't pack systems like this densely anyhow because they'd shade each other all the time. Water they have by desalination, so that's taken care of. Now, what a...
[17:03:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03bootsy [3440] (Score:2) 02I thought we had enough tomatoes - 06Tomatoes Grown in Australian Desert from Sunshine and Seawater - 868 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:03:51] <exec> 08└─This technology is very cool and can no doubt be used for the benefit of human kind but we are hardly short of tomatoes in this world, or indeed other fruit. There is already tremendous waste in the food production industry in the richer Western World and the amount of food that can be produced glob...
[17:03:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I thought we had enough tomatoes - 06Tomatoes Grown in Australian Desert from Sunshine and Seawater - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:53] <exec> 08└─Yeah, this is totally a waste because our entire civilization can only work on one problem at a time.
[17:03:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I thought we had enough tomatoes - 06Tomatoes Grown in Australian Desert from Sunshine and Seawater - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:55] <exec> 08└─I think they're going to introduce a new mechanic in Civ VI to address that.
[17:04:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dust and stuff? - 06Wind-Powered Device Can Produce 11 Gallons Per Day of Clean Drinking Water From the Air - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:04:16] <exec> 08└─They are different devices. Sorry if I didn't make that clear. I was comparing the two different devices and approaches.
[17:05:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score:2) 02Re:It's what sells - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:05:24] <exec> 08└─Why thank thee , thy linguistic pendant! and sounds like Tennents might be an idea. A pint to thee for your services! :)
[17:05:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Risk of "Space Brain" - 06Obama: "America Will Take the Giant Leap to Mars" - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:05:56] <exec> 08└─Yes, if you've read his previous comments, numbnuts has a 200x telescope he believes shows that ships don't actually sink below the horizon. They just fade in the haze. The one he won't do is explain Eratosthenes' observation.
[17:05:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Obama: "You can keep your healthcare... & Doctor" - 06Obama: "America Will Take the Giant Leap to Mars" - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:05:58] <exec> 08└─Nothing but lies to get into the history books. He'll be known as the worst POTUS, that is unless Cliton gets elected.
[17:08:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02The (gag) Register AGAIN! - 06ExoMars arrives at the Red Planet on Sunday - 481 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:08:32] <exec> 08└─Would you people please stop using that unreliable rag as a source of information? Almost every story I've read there was sensationally missing key information. Here are some FAR better links: ESA [esa.int] ESA [esa.int] Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] Planetary Society [planetary.org] Space.com [space.co...
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[18:01:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03samwichse [3189] (Score:2, Informative) 02Could have used a better picture - 06'Bear Dogs' Once Lived in Southern Texas - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:01:47] <exec> 08└─Considering some of the first words quoted are "from their general body shape and posture..." really could've used a body picture. So here's a picture (artist's conception, obviously): http://www.bbc.co.uk [bbc.co.uk] Sam
[18:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03justinb_76 [4362] (Score:1) 02Re:I'm sure they can - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:05] <exec> 08└─I blame Pokemon Go personal rant: as a motorcycle rider, what bugs me the most about other drivers isn't when they're texting or messing around on their phone - it's when they're driving with freakin' earbuds in. seriously, all cars now have awesome stereos in them compared to back in the day - I ju...
[18:02:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Autonomous vehicle lanes - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:13] <exec> 08└─As a stepping stone, I won't be surprised if major arteries into big cities will soon convert one lane (in many cases, those that are now designated as "high occupancy lanes" reserved for vehicles with at least two occupants) into an AV lane, with requirements that each AV be able to communicate wir...
[18:02:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:The joys of marketing hype - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:34] <exec> 08└─Web 1.0 : read this page. Web 2.0 : interact with this page. Web 3.0 : surrender yourself to this page.
[18:02:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:The joys of marketing hype - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:36] <exec> 08└─But then you're looking at meshnets and there are a whole bunch of hurdles to getting everyone using those.
[18:02:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:you wanted it - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:45] <exec> 08└─How is SN a decentralized site? Open and noncommercial, sure. Decentralized? I don't think so.
[18:02:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03mechanicjay [7] (Score:2) 02Re:you wanted it - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:47] <exec> 08└─Fair Enough. All our nodes are running in the same datacenter. We could decentralize a bit by moving redundant nodes to different geographic areas. Makes note to discuss this with people I realize though, that this type of decentralization isn't quite what the article is talking about, but is import...
[18:02:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Infrastructure - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 459 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:56] <exec> 08└─"TL;DR" means "I'm an aliterate and hate reading" (and no, that's not a misspelling). As it says "I'm aliterate" it also says "I'm ignorant", because outside the School of Hard Knox, almost all information is written. To paraphrase Twain, a 1000 n aliterate person has no advantage over an illiterate...
[18:03:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lots of wrongness - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:03:01] <exec> 08└─Addressing is centralized because otherwise it would be an unmanageable clusterfuck if it wasn't. Who really cares about centralized naming? If you want some alternate, decentralized naming, you can do your own alternate, decentralized DNS.
[18:03:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Rinse and Repeat - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:03:04] <exec> 08└─You mean it works like politics?
[18:03:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Standard Message Protocol proposal - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 2285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:03:07] <exec> 08└─What about an open standard for "messages"? People could send and republish other's messages as they see fit, kind of like Twitter, but with a service of their choosing and longer messages. One would still typically "rent" services for such broadcasting, but no one company would own or house the mes...
[18:03:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And this is why ... - 06Amid Fallout from Hack and Spying, Yahoo! Disables Email Forwarding - 988 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:03:31] <exec> 08└─I thought about running my own server many times, but have never had enough motivation to get it working I have the domain already, but the server is the issue....a home DSL link normally has SMTP blocked for outgoing Email. Getting an Amazon Free EC would work for 12 months, but then I need to pay...
[18:03:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Woosh ... - 06Tomatoes Grown in Australian Desert from Sunshine and Seawater - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:03:44] <exec> 08└─What's the common name for the UK's currency?
[18:04:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:TV VCR combo - 06Wind-Powered Device Can Produce 11 Gallons Per Day of Clean Drinking Water From the Air - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:24] <exec> 08└─> watch pr0n Hopefully single-handedly. The last thing waterless areas need is an incentive to increase the population.
[18:04:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:WHO GIVES A FUCK - 06Apple Vs. Samsung Patent Fight Reaches the US Supreme Court - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:33] <exec> 08└─They obviously wouldn't be able to agree on which one the baby looks more like.
[18:04:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Replacement for GrokLaw? - 06Apple Vs. Samsung Patent Fight Reaches the US Supreme Court - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:38] <exec> 08└─Not a replacement, but oyez.org or the blog associated with it is worth checking out if you need a SCOTUS fix: http://blogs.kentlaw.iit.edu [iit.edu]
[18:04:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03nukkel [168] (Score:2) 02Re:kill the poor people - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:55] <exec> 08└─I'll have you know, that dollar will go fully towards maintaining his alcohol consumption habit. Good on you!
[18:05:00] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Bot [3902] 02Re:kill the poor people - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 463 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:05:01] <exec> 08└─Lads, you are so last century. There will be a real-time auction between insurance companies so that the guys with a cheaper life insurance policy payment are selected as the main victims. Of course this takes precious milliseconds off the reaction time, so I guess the preferred victims will be give...
[18:05:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:kill the poor people - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 660 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:05:07] <exec> 08└─And I'm sure the two boys, if they were struck and killed, would be thrilled to know that they were in the legal right. See, the problem with victim blame shaming is that, yes, it's not the victim's fault, but assuming that the victim didn't want to be victimized, they could have made some "common s...
[18:05:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03nukkel [168] (Score:2) 02Re:kill the poor people - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:05:11] <exec> 08└─Remember, Hitler rode a Mercedes.
[18:05:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:Wonder how this will work in California? - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:05:18] <exec> 08└─>those pedestrians have the right of way over any means of conveyance Uh, no? Pedestrians have right of way at crosswalks, and at traffic lights, only when their walk signal is green/go. Anywhere else is jaywalking, illegal, they have no right of way. While vehicles are expected to yield out of huma...
[18:05:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score:2) 02Re:Wonder how this will work in California? - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:05:27] <exec> 08└─There is no legal concept of "right of way" such that you can drive through someone else. What there is, is a "requirement to yield" in certain situations. Like facing a stop sign or a give way sign, being on the minor road at an intersection, etc. In most places, avoiding a foreseeable accident is...
[18:06:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lame duck announcement... - 06Obama: "America Will Take the Giant Leap to Mars" - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:06:00] <exec> 08└─Mars is essentially in the same orbit . . . Mars is somewhat the same distance from the Sun, which is very important. We have seen pictures where there are canals, we believe, and water. If there is water, that means there is oxygen. If oxygen, that means we can breathe.
[18:06:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:There is no moon - 06Obama: "America Will Take the Giant Leap to Mars" - 1226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:06:07] <exec> 08└─Nah. NASA has stopped focusing on doing real science and is concentrating on keeping the gravy train going as long as possible. Mars means more money than building stuff nearer. And it doesn't have to actually work before the current batch of parasites are retired. There will always be convenient de...
[18:06:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:There is no moon - 06Obama: "America Will Take the Giant Leap to Mars" - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:06:10] <exec> 08└─You do know there's a lot more crew members on a nuclear sub than on the sort of Mars missions NASA keeps planning, right? (SpaceX's ITN is supposed to carry 100 settlers, but that's not NASA.) I'm not saying you're wrong about the big picture, but it's absurd to claim that data from nuclear subs wi...
[18:06:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Better Solution - 06Apple Watch Reportedly Banned in UK Cabinet Meetings Amid Hacking Concerns - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:06:23] <exec> 08└─Until some bored actors play a joke and get us into WW3...
[18:07:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Sorry to hear that Torn - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:17] <exec> 08└─"Torn, Tom just couldn't decide." I agree with the submitter.
[18:08:15] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:Devastating news for AGW cultists? - 06Trees Are Much Better at Creating Clouds and Cooling the Climate Than We Thought - 305 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:15] <exec> 08└─This could be devastating to the currently orthodox AGW models, which assume that positive feedback (more co2 in atmosphere = higher temperatures = more co2 released into atmosphere)* is stronger than negative feedback (more co2 in atmosphere = increased plant growth = more co2 taken out of atmosphe...
[18:08:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Devastating news for AGW cultists? - 06Trees Are Much Better at Creating Clouds and Cooling the Climate Than We Thought - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:29] <exec> 08└─If that hypothesis was correct then global warming should have stopped already, correct? We've already massively increased the c02 concentration in the atmosphere and yet the temps keep going up.
[18:08:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What if the aliens returned one of our own? - 06ExoMars arrives at the Red Planet on Sunday - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:50] <exec> 08└─Well, since the lander is not equipped for landing on Earth, it will either burn up spectacularly in the atmosphere, or make a nice little impact crater.
[18:09:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Name one other equal written work... - 0625 New Dead Sea Scrolls Revealed - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:28] <exec> 08└─Name one other equal hamburger with one-tenth the distribution and human investment in terms of work and preparation effort than the Big-Mac.
[18:09:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:sed s/Bible/Harry Potter/ - 0625 New Dead Sea Scrolls Revealed - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:42] <exec> 08└─You're wrong. [wikipedia.org]
[18:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:sed s/Bible/Harry Potter/ - 0625 New Dead Sea Scrolls Revealed - 737 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:47] <exec> 08└─No war was fought for religion, despite that's the reason given by the psychopaths who wage them. ALL wars are fought for money and power (or keeping someone else from grabbing money and power) and nothing more. If you think ISIS has anything to do with Islam, you're naive. IT'S ABOUT THE MONEY. Lik...
[18:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:sed s/Bible/Harry Potter/ - 0625 New Dead Sea Scrolls Revealed - 918 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:50] <exec> 08└─The Torah is mostly Hebrew history, told as the ancients saw it. Harry Potter? Religion has nothing to do with magic, and history, even when incorrect, is nonfiction. To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant...
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[19:01:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Not a Problem, for Musky - 06The Future's for Sale: Germany Auctions Maglev Train - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:01:46] <exec> 08└─Maglev passengers should be prepared to die. When Musky says it, it becomes true.
[19:01:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02ManBearPigLaserShark - 06'Bear Dogs' Once Lived in Southern Texas - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:01:55] <exec> 08└─Vote Hillary
[19:02:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Go Team USA - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 443 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:09] <exec> 08└─The high percent of US population in prison is not a mystery. For Profit Prisons. Executive bonuses, shareholder value, etc. A school system that embraces 'no child allowed to excel to their potential -- in order to not leave anyone behind'. Thus consistently turns out a percent of 'graduates' who a...
[19:02:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Taibhsear [1464] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm sure they can - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:15] <exec> 08└─when they're driving with freakin' earbuds in. seriously, all cars now have awesome stereos in them compared to back in the day - I just don't understand it...
[19:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Wait - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:21] <exec> 08└─Its human drivers distracted by looking at self driving cars and wishing they had one.
[19:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Maybe not - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:24] <exec> 08└─Stick with the basics -- Cheap gas, more miles driven = more accidents.
[19:02:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Autonomous vehicle lanes - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:29] <exec> 08└─Right now, many major cities have lanes expressly marked for the exclusive use of carpools and BMW owners. Couldn't the self driving cars simply be allowed into those lanes?
[19:02:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] 02you wanted it - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 641 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:02:55] <exec> 08└─You wanted it. We had an open, noncommercial, decentralized Internet in the mid-90s. People voted for a closed, walled-garden dominated, commercial Internet. No one forced anyone to abandon the open web and open software development for closed platforms and walled gardens. They did it because that's...
[19:03:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:you wanted it - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:01] <exec> 08└─I would love to see SN roll out a test of one of the truly distributed systems, where users can play host to the data. I'll have to do a little research to find the examples already being made (and sadly they're mostly JS based) but it seems like something this site would be perfect for. The only st...
[19:03:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:you wanted it - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:03] <exec> 08└─We've looked at providing a bi-directional gateway to USENET in the past but I never got it finished due to technical hangups and the fact that NNTP/Usenet is a miserable protocol for anything that can be dynamic since you have manage cancels and such. If someone wants to take the existing code and...
[19:03:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:you wanted it - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 1341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:05] <exec> 08└─It is not decentralized, that is true. But as much as TFS points out the need for people to retain control of their own data, we do go a fair way to achieving this. We allow comments from Anon Cowards, and we do not keep connection data in a way that can be linked back to the originator - it is hash...
[19:03:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:you wanted it - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:07] <exec> 08└─That is all fine and good, but users rely on the integrity of the admins. It would be nice if the features were baked into code. It is a huge project, but one I would be willing to invest time in. The biggest problem I see with decentralization is that it becomes much harder to filter spam bots, and...
[19:03:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Infrastructure - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:17] <exec> 08└─Not everything is worth reading. Just because you don't wish to read one thing doesn't mean you hate reading in general, so you've presented a false dichotomy.
[19:03:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lots of wrongness - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:22] <exec> 08└─Enh, not really. You could have people putting together ad hoc wired connections as well. Down to two soup cans and some string across your back yard fence, if you like. Yes, encryption needs to be involved, as does a distributed PKI and topology-insensitive routing and so on ... it's a big topic. B...
[19:03:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lots of wrongness - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 515 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:26] <exec> 08└─Centralised naming means a court can order the naming authority to do stuff. DNS is not tough enough. Alternative DNS is not tough enough, at most you're just shifting the jurisdiction of vulnerability. Because it has a centralised source, one can also mandate disconnections from that source at a na...
[19:03:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Bullshit - 06Amid Fallout from Hack and Spying, Yahoo! Disables Email Forwarding - 406 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:39] <exec> 08└─Why are you giving Yahoo the benefit of the doubt? You do know that Bill Clinton is on the board of their largest shareholder, TCI Fund Management, right? Its pretty clear that this is part of the plan to ram Hillary down our throats - they are locking yahoomail down to keep the emails that prove sh...
[19:04:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] 02Let's get this out the way shall we? - 06Wind-Powered Device Can Produce 11 Gallons Per Day of Clean Drinking Water From the Air - 192 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:04:27] <exec> 08└─Yes, it all sounds very good, but nobody will be able to use the damn thing until somebody invents a shiny gold effeminate automaton that can speaks the binary language of moisture vaporators.
[19:05:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Wonder how this will work in California? - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 984 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:39] <exec> 08└─Within reason. Good luck with reasoning with a jury, if you should be so unlucky as to hit a pedestrian almost anywhere. Unless there is a very specific law that forbids pedestrian traffic, or restricting pedestrian traffic, then the ped has the right of way. We don't see a whole lot of crosswalks i...
[19:06:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jesus_666 [3044] (Score:2) 02Re:So... - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:06:07] <exec> 08└─I think that if the truck is moving fast enough to kill the car's driver upon rear impact and close enough that an impact at such a speed is inevitable the car doesn't have enough time to accelerate away anyway. Also, the truck would just shove the car into the school children. Let's face it: The ki...
[19:06:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Obama: "You can keep your healthcare... & Docto - 06Obama: "America Will Take the Giant Leap to Mars" - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:06:35] <exec> 08└─Well, Texas does decide what the contents of their textbooks are. The rest of the world will keep having a slightly different view.
[19:06:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Classic Obama - 06Obama: "America Will Take the Giant Leap to Mars" - 511 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:06:36] <exec> 08└─Obama, the man of a million words. Those are his words. Here are his actions: - Cancelled the NASA Constellation Program - Reduced NASA's already meager share of the budget by more than 12% going from a share of 0.57% to 0.50% - Cancelled NASA’s ExoMars Robotic Spaceflight program - O...
[19:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Is God real?" is the most boring question - 0625 New Dead Sea Scrolls Revealed - 1256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:49] <exec> 08└─> A lot of people believe in astrology. And you know what? Astrology works. I don't mean it predicts the future. It helps people see themselves. It is a form of counseling as all "fortune telling" is. People who believe in astrology talk to an astrologer who listens to them and helps them hear thems...
[19:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:2) 02Re:sed s/Bible/Harry Potter/ - 0625 New Dead Sea Scrolls Revealed - 857 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:06] <exec> 08└─Josephus wasn't even born until after Philo died -- never mind that even the Catholic Church admits the main passage about Jesus is a blatant forgery and that the secondary passage is clearly about Jesus ben Damneus, not Jesus ben Joseph. If you wish to be honest with yourself, you will admit that y...
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[20:01:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Do they deliver? - 06The Future's for Sale: Germany Auctions Maglev Train - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:01:47] <exec> 08└─I want a "futile" mod. For anyone outside USA, the 405 is a major highway in Los Angeles that is usually clogged.
[20:01:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Do they deliver? - 06The Future's for Sale: Germany Auctions Maglev Train - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:01:49] <exec> 08└─We'd need too many extra mod points, since just about everything we say in our tiny corner of the web is futile. Yes, the 405 is that free parking lot with multiple entrances and exits which is almost as iconic of LA as the airport and the Hollywood sign.
[20:01:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Do they deliver? - 06The Future's for Sale: Germany Auctions Maglev Train - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:01:51] <exec> 08└─Free? Obviously you've never tried to tailgate with some beers at 5 :P
[20:01:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Osamabobama [5842] (Score:2) 02Sad? - 06The Future's for Sale: Germany Auctions Maglev Train - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:01:53] <exec> 08└─Sad news for maglev [wikipedia.org] fans.
[20:01:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Terrorism - 06The Future's for Sale: Germany Auctions Maglev Train - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:01:55] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately for train fans, a packed, speedy train would be a tempting target for terrorists (not just Jihadis either) and there would be hundreds of miles of opportunities for attack locations. If the automobile hadn't been invented, it would be as a counter to that threat.
[20:01:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Terrorism - 06The Future's for Sale: Germany Auctions Maglev Train - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:01:57] <exec> 08└─...and I believe that it takes very little to cause a major wreck when the maglev car is at speed(??) No need to blow anything up, maybe just a cable with a rock on the end, tossed across the maglev guideway?
[20:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Beer Dog? - 06'Bear Dogs' Once Lived in Southern Texas - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:02:08] <exec> 08└─What I (mis) read the first time through. From Texas, so it all made sense at first...
[20:02:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Beer Dog? - 06'Bear Dogs' Once Lived in Southern Texas - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:10] <exec> 08└─Well, they walked on their feet, not on their toes like dogs do, so it kinda makes sense.
[20:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Go Team USA - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:23] <exec> 08└─And weapons exports, at least when it comes to delivery per air directly to final destination.
[20:02:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Autonomous vehicle lanes - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:41] <exec> 08└─> Couldn't the self driving cars simply be allowed into those lanes? Not if they get in the way of the Beemer drivers (lately it's Audi drivers also). Might be acceptable if they moved as fast as the lane, which is often well over the speed limit).
[20:03:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Have you had a look at Askemos? Seems quite close - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 546 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:03:35] <exec> 08└─You may want to have a look at Askemos/BALL [askemos.org]. Maybe not exactly Web4.0, more like Web1.0. But otherwise it looks like a reasonable prototype. Byzantine fault tolerant replication among friends. Somewhat like a network of "caching" Web proxies. "Caching" in quotes as they don't cache, t...
[20:03:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Decentralized Web/Web 3.0 is called... - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 1503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:03:36] <exec> 08└─I2P, Tor, CJDNS, Hyperboria. You know what they all have in common? None of them have enough (known secure) nodes or security auditing to protect from the passive surveillance on the clearnet. And in order to truly have a decentralized web, as discussed, we would need grassroots mesh networks with a...
[20:03:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:2) 02We the Choir? - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 857 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:03:38] <exec> 08└─This article is basically preaching to the choir being posted here. Of course most Soylentils want back the wild west internet of the 90s. But that ship has sailed, because to quote the summary, "people realised that an easy way to create value on top of this neutral fabric was to build centralised...
[20:03:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Nobody mentioned POP3/IMAP... - 06Amid Fallout from Hack and Spying, Yahoo! Disables Email Forwarding - 520 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:03:50] <exec> 08└─I happen to have my account configured for it, although I haven't tried using it since the post-VZ buyout allegations came up. Is it disabled as well? If it is not, then it very well could be a security feature to keep from having user emails exfiltrated to hacker's accounts so they can compromise o...
[20:04:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And this is why ... - 06Amid Fallout from Hack and Spying, Yahoo! Disables Email Forwarding - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:04:06] <exec> 08└─Linode has a collection of documentation [linode.com] that may be relevant to your interests, particularly postfix/dovecot/mysql [linode.com].
[20:04:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The ambitious method: - 06Tomatoes Grown in Australian Desert from Sunshine and Seawater - 1668 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:04:29] <exec> 08└─would be to produce a saltwater pipeline from the pacific through california and nevada up to Utah, powered by nuclear reactors every hundred miles or so (could power with solar/wind as well, but for cost efficiency a couple well designed nuke plants could keep it running much better.) fed off local...
[20:05:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02A split 4 vs. 4 decision? - 06Apple Vs. Samsung Patent Fight Reaches the US Supreme Court - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:05:16] <exec> 08└─Perhaps this is one of those cases that needs an odd number of justices. Of course, it's also questionable whether if the law and constitution aren't really clear and in agreement that the law should be allowed to stand...but those are the rules of the game.
[20:05:41] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03rts008 [3001] 02Re:kill the poor people - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 114 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:05:41] <exec> 08└─Sounds like an ironclad case of you are driving too fast for conditions to me, not pedestrians, being the problem.
[20:05:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:kill the poor people - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:05:47] <exec> 08└─A good friend (he happened to be from mainland China) used the phrase, "Sadistic German engineering" when he was repairing his VW Microbus, so many things were difficult for no good reason. Same when he had a Porsche 914, which used a VW engine. Perhaps Mercedes falls into the same category.
[20:05:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wonder how this will work in California? - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:05:56] <exec> 08└─Anywhere else is jaywalking, illegal, they have no right of way.
[20:05:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Wonder how this will work in California? - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:05:58] <exec> 08└─But you know, even though sail has right of way over steam, a liner can't avoid a sailboat. There's "right of way" and then there's sense. You don't walk in front of a truck&trailer that's moving. It can't reasonably stop. This whole area is just full of edge cases, so I agree with the summary, they...
[20:06:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Risk of "Space Brain" - 06Obama: "America Will Take the Giant Leap to Mars" - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:06:47] <exec> 08└─Quack! Quack!
[20:06:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Obama: "You can keep your healthcare... & Docto - 06Obama: "America Will Take the Giant Leap to Mars" - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:06:50] <exec> 08└─"Make America Grope Again."
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[21:01:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02stupid sponsor? - 06 $22m XPrize to make Avatar a Reality - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:01:47] <exec> 08└─> Backed by Japan’s largest airline, ANA, the Avatar XPrize ... Why would an airline sponsor something that reduces the need for people to fly?
[21:01:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:stupid sponsor? - 06 $22m XPrize to make Avatar a Reality - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:01:49] <exec> 08└─Maybe they have some reason to believe they need to diversify. Or that flight doesn't have a bright future. Like railroads didn't react to what become trucking using the interstate highway system. Who would think powerful railroads would be vulnerable.
[21:01:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Humanoid Robot Drone Weapons - 06 $22m XPrize to make Avatar a Reality - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:01:51] <exec> 08└─This is gonna be great for Hillary to declare war on the world! Our Troops will be safe in bunkers while they pilot the robot army of death to all enemies of feminism!!
[21:01:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Humanoid Robot Drone Weapons - 06 $22m XPrize to make Avatar a Reality - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:01:53] <exec> 08└─Russian hackers and Trump will be safe in dark basements. They will hack the avatars to turn on our troops who have been lulled into feeling safe in their bunkers. In order to fight for the great cause of misogyny.
[21:01:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03tractatus_techno_philosophicus [6130] (Score:1) 02Re:Humanoid Robot Drone Weapons - 06 $22m XPrize to make Avatar a Reality - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:01:55] <exec> 08└─Hillary doesn't care about women. http://www.washingtontimes.com [washingtontimes.com]
[21:01:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Humanoid Robot Drone Weapons - 06 $22m XPrize to make Avatar a Reality - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:01:57] <exec> 08└─God DAMN give it a fucking rest! Can't wait for this election to be over (assuming that reduces the amount of this shit)
[21:01:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03BananaPhone [2488] (Score:2) 02sound more like "surrogates" - 06 $22m XPrize to make Avatar a Reality - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:02:00] <exec> 08└─http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0986263/ [imdb.com]
[21:02:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03black6host [3827] (Score:2) 02ManBearPig - 06'Bear Dogs' Once Lived in Southern Texas - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:02:24] <exec> 08└─I hear Al Gore's down in Florida. Check there....
[21:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:ManBearPig - 06'Bear Dogs' Once Lived in Southern Texas - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:26] <exec> 08└─They also got bear Jews in Boston.
[21:02:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Go Team USA - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:43] <exec> 08└─Nice and snarky. Was expecting something like this in here. How does the stats break down. Age/make of car? Age of driver? Area of driver/accident? Cause of accident? Experience of driver? These sorts of stats where everything is lumped together make fixing the issue meaningless and a guess to what...
[21:02:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] 02Maybe not - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 31 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:02:53] <exec> 08└─Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year
[21:02:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dystopia - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:57] <exec> 08└─Good luck buying any new car these days without a cell modem in it.
[21:02:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03snufu [5855] (Score:2) 02Re:Dystopia - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:59] <exec> 08└─Autonomous cars, even with 24/7 cameras are less a threat to privacy than the existing corporate surveillance state from mobile phones and social networking.
[21:03:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Autonomous vehicle lanes - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:03:05] <exec> 08└─I've been thinking the same thing lately, myself, that BMW drivers have taken the crown as the most obnoxious and entitled on the road. Guess others are thinking the same thing. Would be nice to have a way to objectively measure which brands/models those drivers are moving to so the rest of us can o...
[21:03:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Autonomous vehicle lanes - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:03:07] <exec> 08└─The obnoxious drivers will shift the moment there is a shiny new iCar. You'll have to wait in a line for two days. Then you'll have to prove that you have met the minimum required level of smugness. It only runs on iFuel. You can't open the hood. And none of the drivetrain components can be serviced...
[21:03:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Some examples of failed decentralized projects: - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 2264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:03:43] <exec> 08└─Email(SMTP/POP3/IMAP) - Still aruond, but many hosts filtered completely by big email providers. Some even lagging messages by hours or days. Usenet(NNTP) - The original web forums as well as bittorrent. Pushed to closure between the 90s and early '00s as part of both the crackdown on pirated (inser...
[21:03:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score:1) 02Re:Infrastructure - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:03:53] <exec> 08└─You are correct in my particular case. However, in general TLDR means: this is just an opinion of mine that might not be entirely related to the article. Others may offer a more informed and/or precise assessment.
[21:04:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Thunderbird + gmail for me - 06Amid Fallout from Hack and Spying, Yahoo! Disables Email Forwarding - 646 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:04:22] <exec> 08└─I do similar, but the problem here is that Mozilla has dropped maintenance of Thunderbird. ... Well, I'm actually using icedove, but I don't know how much maintenance Debian does on it...and every other email client I've tried has failed my use case, sometimes abysmally. KMail died when I tried to r...
[21:04:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03aclarke [2049] (Score:2) 02Mono Lake - 06Tomatoes Grown in Australian Desert from Sunshine and Seawater - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:04:57] <exec> 08└─Sorry, I got my lakes wrong. I meant Mono Lake, and the shrimp aren't farmed for human consumption.
[21:05:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:looks like a scam site - 06Wind-Powered Device Can Produce 11 Gallons Per Day of Clean Drinking Water From the Air - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:05:22] <exec> 08└─A valid point which may limit the usefulness of the device, but which wouldn't eliminate it. And it might work quite well in arid conditions, but just produce less water. They should test it in the Mojave, or if it has enough wind Death Valley.
[21:06:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03lentilla [1770] 02Re:kill the poor people - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 66 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:09] <exec> 08└─so I guess the preferred victims will be given a score in advance.
[21:06:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03lgw [2836] (Score:2) 02Re:kill the poor people - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:15] <exec> 08└─The laws of physics don't care who is driving too fast for conditions. Look after your own ass when walking. Also, in the country, "driving too fast for conditions" is the cityboy way to say "driving".
[21:06:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03lgw [2836] (Score:2) 02Re:kill the poor people - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 695 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:21] <exec> 08└─You seem to the confusing Mercedes drivers with BMW drivers. At least here in the states, Mercedes drivers tend to be people who are doing better than their backgrounds would suggest (first-generation immigrants, first-generation middle class, whatever), who are insucre about their social status. It...
[21:06:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Entropy [4228] (Score:2) 02Re:Wonder how this will work in California? - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 1189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:34] <exec> 08└─There are clearly some "pedestrian zones", for lack of a better word. Areas where pedestrians are the primary, and cars need to yield no matter what. Some examples include crosswalks, sidewalks, probably parking lots, and such. Large cities function differently from the rest of the world, of course....
[21:06:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03lgw [2836] (Score:2) 02Re:Wonder how this will work in California? - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:36] <exec> 08└─Pedestrians should have the right of way.
[21:06:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03lgw [2836] (Score:2) 02Re:Only thing worse than Dragons! - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:47] <exec> 08└─Mercedes E-Class sedans are actually reasonably popular upper-class cars - very practical, safe, and not too showy. But, as you say, that's a tiny percentage of Mercedes owners.
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[22:01:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:stupid sponsor? - 06 $22m XPrize to make Avatar a Reality - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:01:48] <exec> 08└─Because now people will take one flight while their avatar takes another. Double dip!
[22:01:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:stupid sponsor? - 06 $22m XPrize to make Avatar a Reality - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:01:49] <exec> 08└─Not to be taken lightly in this day and age. Will service robots be allowed on planes like "service dogs" (95% of which are glorified pets with zero training). How long will it take nation states or terrorists to weaponize the avatar? About a week after general availability I'd guess.
[22:01:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Humanoid Robot Drone Weapons - 06 $22m XPrize to make Avatar a Reality - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:01:55] <exec> 08└─It won't. The Obama shit didn't stop after he won, in fact it amped up.
[22:01:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Humanoid Robot Drone Weapons - 06 $22m XPrize to make Avatar a Reality - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:01:58] <exec> 08└─They don't even have to stop that when he's out. It will be Obama II.
[22:01:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Humanoid Robot Drone Weapons - 06 $22m XPrize to make Avatar a Reality - 1144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:00] <exec> 08└─You can thank all the moronic Democratic voters for this one; they just *had* to have Hillary as their nominee. If they had voted for Bernie instead, all we'd be hearing now is a few wackos yammering about socialism. We wouldn't be hearing about scandals, being sold out to Wall Street, a corrupt pay...
[22:02:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03pe1rxq [844] (Score:2) 02Re:Terrorism - 06The Future's for Sale: Germany Auctions Maglev Train - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:16] <exec> 08└─If the automobile hadn't been invented the middle east might not have become the terrorist incubator it is now....
[22:02:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'm sure they can - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:50] <exec> 08└─Your priorities are way out of line... Most drivers won't hear you in time to do much of anything so earbuds are not that dangerous. Not seeing the road or being able to drive a straight line is incredibly dangerous for a motorcycle, a slight rear end tap can really injure you, and if you split lane...
[22:03:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03snufu [5855] (Score:2) 02Non-autonomous driving will be illegal. - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:03:07] <exec> 08└─When autonomous vehicles reduce fatalities to occupants, pedestrians, and bicyclists by 99% and cost the same as regular vehicles, how will municipalities be able justify legal driving by humans on public roads? It would be reckless dereliction of duty to public safely.
[22:03:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03julian [6003] (Score:2) 02Re:The joys of marketing hype - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:03:31] <exec> 08└─It was either about social networking or about massive amounts of ads. And because the social networking sites were mostly all free, I'm not sure that the distinction is particularly important.
[22:04:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03termigator [4271] (Score:2) 02Re:Thunderbird + gmail for me - 06Amid Fallout from Hack and Spying, Yahoo! Disables Email Forwarding - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:04:24] <exec> 08└─I still get updates for Thunderbird. I remember the announcement also, but it appears there is still folks doing maintenance on it.
[22:04:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03termigator [4271] (Score:2) 02Re:Thunderbird + gmail for me - 06Amid Fallout from Hack and Spying, Yahoo! Disables Email Forwarding - 476 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:04:25] <exec> 08└─If you use the IMAP interface, labels get mapped to folders in your IMAP client. One advantage labels have is that a message can be categorized into multiple "folders". Traditional folder-based MUAs do not support that well. I have used Thunderbird as an IMAP client to Gmail, and it works fairly wel...
[22:04:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Re:Thunderbird + gmail for me - 06Amid Fallout from Hack and Spying, Yahoo! Disables Email Forwarding - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:04:28] <exec> 08└─I pity the fools who used Yahoo for email, they're really getting screwed now.
[22:04:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03termigator [4271] (Score:2) 02Re:And this is why ... - 06Amid Fallout from Hack and Spying, Yahoo! Disables Email Forwarding - 1398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:04:40] <exec> 08└─Which requires some admin knowledge to setup correctly, more now than it used to. Make sure you have your SPF and DKIM configured correctly so you avoid being tagged as a spammer. What about failover? You will need a secondary MX server to queue up email in case primary goes down. et.al. A couple of...
[22:04:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nice, but expensive - 06Tomatoes Grown in Australian Desert from Sunshine and Seawater - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:04:55] <exec> 08└─Oh fuck off.
[22:05:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I thought we had enough tomatoes - 06Tomatoes Grown in Australian Desert from Sunshine and Seawater - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:05:10] <exec> 08└─It all comes down to money. You get get someone to front the $250mil to build this in a rich country, because you can make a profit selling the fruit. You could build this in a poor country to boost their food supply, but you are going to lose your $250mil.
[22:05:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:looks like a scam site - 06Wind-Powered Device Can Produce 11 Gallons Per Day of Clean Drinking Water From the Air - 912 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:05:30] <exec> 08└─Most certainly a scam hell the summary 'and without the need for costly chemicals or maintenance' Bull. Dehumidifiers on this scale require maintenance (even passive structures). You are dealing with water, water reacts with a lot of things especially junk caught in the air with the water. There is...
[22:05:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:looks like a scam site - 06Wind-Powered Device Can Produce 11 Gallons Per Day of Clean Drinking Water From the Air - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:05:32] <exec> 08└─Haven't we had half a dozen stories about such thing here in SN already? Some with working prototypes and installations in Africa?
[22:05:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jesus_666 [3044] (Score:2) 02Re:Samsung should leave - 06Apple Vs. Samsung Patent Fight Reaches the US Supreme Court - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:05:53] <exec> 08└─It's just "designed in California". It turned out that the hipster is just metrosexual.
[22:07:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03snufu [5855] (Score:2) 02Obama: "America Will Take the Giant Leap to Mars" - 06Obama: "America Will Take the Giant Leap to Mars" - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:07:37] <exec> 08└─I don't think it works that way.
[22:07:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sarasani [3283] (Score:1) 02In a sea of patent trolls - 06Obama: "America Will Take the Giant Leap to Mars" - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:07:38] <exec> 08└─Good luck building your giant spaceship while you're trying to keep your head afloat in your sea of patent trolls. So, maybe fix patent law first before you start having these grandiose ideas?
[22:11:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Always FreeBSD... - 06FreeBSD 11.0 Released - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:43] <exec> 08└─The release process isn't deterministic; this release was delayed more than a month. https://www.freebsd.org [freebsd.org] However, one needn't wait for a release to have access to new drivers. They're typically brought into the stable branches with what's called an MFC,...
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[23:01:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Andy, unabsurd - 06Silkworms Fed Carbon Nanotubes Or Graphene Produce Stronger Silk - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:38] <exec> 08└─AndyTheAbsurd speculated about this over a year ago in the summary of Spiders Ingest Nanotubes, Weave Silk Reinforced with Carbon [soylentnews.org]: I wonder if the same technique will work with silkworms, which are commercially viable (something that spiders aren't).
[23:01:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Andy, unabsurd - 06Silkworms Fed Carbon Nanotubes Or Graphene Produce Stronger Silk - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:39] <exec> 08└─Why would anyone want authorship of a research paper? It's common knowledge that researchers steal every idea they publish: usually from their students, sometimes from each other, and in this case from a member of the public. Knowing that researchers are shameless plagiarizers, what honest person wo...
[23:01:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:stupid sponsor? - 06 $22m XPrize to make Avatar a Reality - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:51] <exec> 08└─(95% of which are glorified pets with zero training)
[23:01:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:stupid sponsor? - 06 $22m XPrize to make Avatar a Reality - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:53] <exec> 08└─Will service robots be allowed on planes like "service dogs" (95% of which are glorified pets with zero training).
[23:01:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:stupid sponsor? - 06 $22m XPrize to make Avatar a Reality - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:55] <exec> 08└─They just want avatar baggage handlers operated by cheap oversea labor.
[23:02:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Humanoid Robot Drone Weapons - 06 $22m XPrize to make Avatar a Reality - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:04] <exec> 08└─True, but in many areas, voters actually *voting* for Bernie didn't even help. Man, what a corrupt country the US has become.
[23:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Cardinal Richelieu - 06 $22m XPrize to make Avatar a Reality - 924 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:06] <exec> 08└─> You can thank all the moronic Democratic voters for this one; they just *had* to have Hillary as their nominee. Yeah, it is the democrats fault that total fucktards can't stop losing their ever living shit over someone who is nothing more than an ambitiously competent bureaucrat. All those "scanda...
[23:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03J053 [3532] (Score:2) 02Re:Humanoid Robot Drone Weapons - 06 $22m XPrize to make Avatar a Reality - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:08] <exec> 08└─All just a part of the Vagenda of Manicide.
[23:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Terrorism - 06The Future's for Sale: Germany Auctions Maglev Train - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:25] <exec> 08└─There are hundreds of miles at the end of runways where planes are an easy target for bad guys using the overly powerful weapons they can buy for free in the US, but neither the weapons nor the planes have been banned or abandoned as high-profile terror objects..
[23:02:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Chupacabra - 06'Bear Dogs' Once Lived in Southern Texas - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:02:38] <exec> 08└─No one else thinking what I am thinking? There have been stranger things in Texas, like Ted Cruz.
[23:03:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02In 30 years maybe - 06Traffic Deaths Spiked This Year; Some Say Self-Driving Cars can Bring them Back Down - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:18] <exec> 08└─Everybody talks about self driving cars as if they were a done deal. There were self driving cars since the 80s. There are still major hurdles to overcome. Not everywhere is sunny California, plus it takes years to develop a _reliable_ product from the prototypes we now see on the streets. On top of...
[23:03:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02The joys of marketing hype - 06A Decentralized Web Would Give Power Back to the People Online - 324 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:30] <exec> 08└─I'm still quite unclear about what "Web 2.0" was supposed to involve other than marketing nonsense, so I'm hereby declaring the creation of Web 4.0, which is a vague collection of ideas that sound really good but don't have anything remotely resembling technical implementation yet. I'm sure TedX and...
[23:04:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Won't help them - 06Amid Fallout from Hack and Spying, Yahoo! Disables Email Forwarding - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:04:27] <exec> 08└─There was a web-scraping script called fetchyahoo, I don't know whether it still works.
[23:04:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:legalize it don't criticize it - 06Amid Fallout from Hack and Spying, Yahoo! Disables Email Forwarding - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:43] <exec> 08└─How do you download your mails from there?
[23:04:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cock.li - 06Amid Fallout from Hack and Spying, Yahoo! Disables Email Forwarding - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:46] <exec> 08└─Is that you, madbomber?
[23:05:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nice, but expensive - 06Tomatoes Grown in Australian Desert from Sunshine and Seawater - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:08] <exec> 08└─pounds of tomatoes, not pounds' worth of tomatoes
[23:06:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wonder how this will work in California? - 06Self-Driving Mercedes Will Prioritize Occupant Safety Over Pedestrians - 521 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:51] <exec> 08└─you do not live in KY. I have seen Combines going down the freeway, blocking all lanes and it is just fine. CA also has basic speed law, that means you cannot go any faster than what is front of you, IF that is person and you hit them, you were speeding, period. But they also have an anti-blocking l...
[23:07:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lame duck announcement... - 06Obama: "America Will Take the Giant Leap to Mars" - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:24] <exec> 08└─But only at night.
[23:08:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Snotnose [1623] 02Re:Um, the default? - 06What Are Your Favorite Fonts? - 403 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:19] <exec> 08└─It's actually hilarious. People who moderate have no clue as to the backstory so they moderate on how I stated it. I'll bet $100 those who moderated me funny never tried to install LaTex in the late 80s/early 90s. My meaningless word 1 verb meaningless word 2 are simply examples of A) how the questi...
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