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[00:01:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Breeders are Idiots - 0650% of Parents Knowingly Text Their Teens While Teens Are Driving - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:01:30] <exec> 08└─First post for homoeroticracy.
[00:01:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02not surprises here - 0650% of Parents Knowingly Text Their Teens While Teens Are Driving - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:01:31] <exec> 08└─Well, 29 percent of these parents admitted that they expect their kids to reply before they reach their destination.
[00:01:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:not surprises here - 0650% of Parents Knowingly Text Their Teens While Teens Are Driving - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:01:33] <exec> 08└─Not true. My parents tell me they love me every time I send them money for letting me live that long, so there!
[00:01:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:not surprises here - 0650% of Parents Knowingly Text Their Teens While Teens Are Driving - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:01:35] <exec> 08└─Talking as someone who hasn't realized how mind-bogglingly easy it is to get rid of your kids...
[00:01:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02just checking? - 0650% of Parents Knowingly Text Their Teens While Teens Are Driving - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:01:38] <exec> 08└─"Now text tell me you've arrived safely!"
[00:01:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:re Reasons - 06FARC Peace Deal Rejected by Colombians - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:01:49] <exec> 08└─Can't say that I blame Colombians for rejecting a peace deal that might have been too lenient with people involved in crimes but I doubt that was the real reason certain circles opposed it and fanned the hate.
[00:01:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:re Reasons - 06FARC Peace Deal Rejected by Colombians - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:01:51] <exec> 08└─I have just done some reading about Alvaro Uribe and if I read between the lines I can see him being very worried by the whole "all sides confessing" deal, as he is implicated in the right wing anti FARC side of this civil war, which seems to have been funded by the CIA. Being given the presidential...
[00:01:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:The rural/urban split - 06FARC Peace Deal Rejected by Colombians - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:01:54] <exec> 08└─With the polls being so far off and the election conveniently just in favor of "NO", I wouldn't be surprised to see accusations of election fraud in the near future.
[00:01:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Interesting) 02Re:Fucking SJWs! - 06FARC Peace Deal Rejected by Colombians - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:01:58] <exec> 08└─Ha! I've noticed an uptick in trolling on SN, who's been linking to SN on the script-kiddie sites?? Also, the quality of trolling has gone down... I blame alcohol, some people have stopped caring about their jobs and just drunk post to SN in order to feel powerful.
[00:03:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Your assumptions are wrong... Re:$15 viewmaster VR - 06Google's Daydream VR Headset Reported to Cost $79 - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:03:51] <exec> 08└─They haven't simply repackaged 2 year old technology! "and maybe a 1 bit pushbutton if you're lucky. " You obviously haven't read up on Daydream..... doh!
[00:05:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:education, honesty, work & service are encourag - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 423 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:05:10] <exec> 08└─And in that vein, why believe what you are taught by 'leadership'. Why not just commune with God yourself and let HIM tell you what to believe and how to act? Why the need to be Christian or Buddhist or Removable organised Eiffel of tomato (or is it tomato??) Day saints or..... Why not just be "I ta...
[00:05:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:1) 02Re:education, honesty, work & service are encourag - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 1670 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:05:11] <exec> 08└─Excellent question. He has an official organization on the earth to keep the doctrines pure & correct, to administer the ordinances like baptism with real authority under His direction, to help us all be stronger together than we could be separately, to teach us His laws, to keep records, to help us...
[00:05:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:1) 02Re:huh? - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 1488 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:05:39] <exec> 08└─Hmm. I wouldn't dare claim that what every religionist does is always good. I don't want to slam others. But I can say what I've seen and ex 68a3 perienced in the Christianity that I am regularly taught (a very unofficial name; remembering that out of almost 17 million there are going to be oddballs...
[00:05:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:1) 02Re:huh? - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:05:40] <exec> 08└─(oops: I had used the word Mormonism which is what I meant by "unofficial name", but then edited it out.)
[00:08:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hawkwind [3531] (Score:2) 02Vestas - 06India Ratifies Paris Climate Change Agreement - 443 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:08:22] <exec> 08└─One piece of India's puzzle is the wind turbine company Vestas will be building a plant in India. The company is building a blade plant in Gujarat, which will produce India’s first locally produced carbon-fibre blades. Carbon-fibre blades are stronger and lighter than conventional glass-fibre blad...
[00:11:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why are IoT devices actually on the Internet? - 06Mirai IoT Botnet Source Code Released - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:11:47] <exec> 08└─" if you understand the basic concepts of LAN / WAN, and NAT,". And most home users dont.
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[01:01:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Remember when Linux was buggy as shit? - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:01:30] <exec> 08└─No! Linux has always been fucking perfect! How dare anyone code anything new on Linux perfection!! Linux! Linux! Linux! Linux! Chant it with me! Linux! Linux! Linux! Linux! Linux! Linux!
[01:01:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02not on debian.. - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:01:31] <exec> 08└─I checked blog - not for jessie (debian version). I'm on systemd 2.15.
[01:01:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:just checking? - 0650% of Parents Knowingly Text Their Teens While Teens Are Driving - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:01:44] <exec> 08└─buy toilet paper.
[01:01:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03esperto123 [4303] (Score:2) 02Re:re Reasons - 06FARC Peace Deal Rejected by Colombians - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:01:56] <exec> 08└─From what I could tell the cause was probably the surveys results that were made public before the vote. The "yes" was appearing with such a high margin, at about 2/3 of the total, i.e. twice as many as the "no", that likely made most people just go "fuck it, I don't need to vote" and cause a poor t...
[01:02:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fucking SJWs! - 06FARC Peace Deal Rejected by Colombians - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:02:03] <exec> 08└─I blame alcohol
[01:02:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Fucking SJWs! - 06FARC Peace Deal Rejected by Colombians - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:02:05] <exec> 08└─Higher proof/ABV
[01:02:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02Gravitational Waves and LIGO - 06Nobel in Physics for Secrets of Exotic Matter - 933 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:02:40] <exec> 08└─I was thinking that the Nobel committee might have chosen a few key members of the LIGO collaboration that managed to make the first direct detection of gravitational waves, the last remaining unobserved prediction of General Relativity. Well, they could still come up for next year's prize, after al...
[01:02:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03 (Score:0) 02Re:"Can't we just drone this guy?" - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:02:56] <exec> 08└─^ Fox-Foil Hat
[01:05:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:huh? - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:05:53] <exec> 08└─the Christianity that I am regularly taught
[01:05:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:1) 02Re:huh? - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 653 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:05:54] <exec> 08└─We believe in following Jesus Christ, according to the teachings of the Bible, Book of Mormon, and authoritative living prophets. But not the Nicene creed. From there, people disagree on terminology. Sometimes others say that to be Christian you have to agree with the Nicene creed etc., but we think...
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[02:01:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Remember when Linux was buggy as shit? - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:31] <exec> 08└─$ NOTIFY_SOCKET=/run/systemd/notify systemd-notify "" bash: systemd-notify: command not found *yawns*~ Smug Gentoo user here.
[02:01:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Remember when Linux was buggy as shit? - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:32] <exec> 08└─$ NOTIFY_SOCKET=/run/systemd/notify systemd-notify "" -bash: systemd-notify: command not found Slackware user here - same result, no problems.
[02:01:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Remember when Linux was buggy as shit? - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:34] <exec> 08└─NOTIFY_SOCKET=/run/systemd/notify systemd-notify "" N o p r o b l e m h e r e . W T H ?
[02:01:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Remember when Linux was buggy as shit? - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:36] <exec> 08└─*yawns*~ Smug Gentoo user here.
[02:01:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Remember when Linux was buggy as shit? - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:39] <exec> 08└─Why not modded down yet, rabid Linux dweebs? Here's your proof, Linux was shit: https://ftp.kernel.org [kernel.org] WARNING: 2.1.44 is extremely unstable and can cause filesystem corruption! Please test only on systems where you can tolerate data loss!
[02:01:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Remember when Linux was buggy as shit? - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:41] <exec> 08└─https://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.1/WARNING-2.1.44 [kernel.org] NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID Lying troll is a liar.
[02:01:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Remember when Linux was buggy as shit? - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 1588 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:43] <exec> 08└─I wish we could leave the SSL certificate aside. The troll's quote is accurate. If you think kernel.org has been hijacked (which itself would be newsworthy) you can compare the page to an archived copy on archive.org: https://web.archive.org
[02:01:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Remember when Linux was buggy as shit? - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:45] <exec> 08└─Oh wow! Self referential trolling really does work.
[02:01:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Remember when Linux was buggy as shit? - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:47] <exec> 08└─Boo hoo. Stop calling me gullible Gulliver.
[02:01:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Remember when Linux was buggy as shit? - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 457 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:50] <exec> 08└─Yo, tard! The 2.1 series was unstable by design. 2.0, 2.2, 2.4 and 2.6 were stable, 2.1, 2.3, 2.5 the unstable branches. These days there isn't a need for an unstable tree because most of the low level stuff is pretty much in a final state, changing only slowly. Now we have the main branch and an LT...
[02:01:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Remember when Linux was buggy as shit? - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:52] <exec> 08└─These days there isn't a need for an unstable tree because most of the low level stuff is pretty much in a final 5383 state, changing only slowly.
[02:01:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Remember when Linux was buggy as shit? - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:54] <exec> 08└─1. you did not ROTFLMAO at the GP epic fail 2. you admit systemd has no place in any production system I either salute a subtle troll, or predict an astroturfer won't get his 50cents from RH.
[02:01:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Remember when Linux was buggy as shit? - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:56] <exec> 08└─Yeah bugs. Before systemd: Do X Error Y Hm well let's try to reboot Do X Error Y Hm let's try to update Do X Error Y Hm let's try to recompile Do X Error Y Hm let's go to the forums, bts, whatever "I do X, i get error Y" "me too on arm" "do Z" Do Z Do X OK On systemd> see windows.
[02:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Bug is a result of Assert() - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:01:59] <exec> 08└─The bug only happens if assert() calls are still in the code. They should not be in a production system, so the problem is really with distros that didn't build correctly. This would be a non-story if it didn't involve systemd.
[02:02:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bug is a result of Assert() - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:01] <exec> 08└─Don't you just hate it when newbs litter their code with assert? Always reminds me of this. LAFORGE: Hey! We've got a red light on the second intake valve. COCHRANE: Ignore it. We'll be fine.
[02:02:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02This is why "Not Systemd" - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 1581 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:02:03] <exec> 08└─It isn't that this bug won't be swiftly squashed. It will be, and the distros will push updates quickly. The problem is that systemd, like all of the Red Hat / Pottering OS "Alien Tech" is built around the same defective ideas that have meant Windows NT / XP / 7 / 8 / 10 have been and probably alway...
[02:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:This is why "Not Systemd" - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 1041 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:06] <exec> 08└─history will likely show that the intro of systemd was the downfall of linux. I hope we recover and undo systemd at some future date. why it was pushed out to SO many distros (redhat, yes, I understand; debian based ones, though, I have no idea why that ended up being voted in) - its just a damned s...
[02:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is why "Not Systemd" - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:08] <exec> 08└─history will likely show that the intro of systemd was the downfall of linux
[02:02:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is why "Not Systemd" - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:10] <exec> 08└─Windows NT / XP / 7 / 8 / 10 have been and probably always be roach motels. Big monoliths are inherently unstable because they are too big to know.
[02:02:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Basics - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:02:12] <exec> 08└─uncovered a bug which will either crash or make systemd unstable
[02:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Breeders are Idiots - 0650% of Parents Knowingly Text Their Teens While Teens Are Driving - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:21] <exec> 08└─Haha now I know who this AC is
[02:02:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02why? - 0650% of Parents Knowingly Text Their Teens While Teens Are Driving - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:02:29] <exec> 08└─"Why didnt you answer my text?" "Uh Driving..." "So? It was important you need to answer me" This was the conversation between two grown adults. Add in some parental power tripping and yeah I could see this.
[02:02:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:1, Flamebait) 02Re:re Reasons - 06FARC Peace Deal Rejected by Colombians - 1466 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:39] <exec> 08└─Well one good reason to oppose your notion is that we are talking about hard-core Communist Revolutionaries who added in narco-terrorism when the Soviet Union couldn't pay them anymore. Give em amnesty and they probably won't settle down as peaceful farmers. Or at least you couldn't be blamed for su...
[02:02:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Democracy in peril globally - 06FARC Peace Deal Rejected by Colombians - 633 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:45] <exec> 08└─Yeah. As Stalin pointed out, it doesn't matter who votes, just who -counts- the votes. Earlier in the (meta)thread, esperto123 mentioned how the results of a survey were released and it's thought that that increased apathy and led to a low turnout. That sounds a whole lot like Associated Press' unti...
[02:02:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fucking SJWs! - 06FARC Peace Deal Rejected by Colombians - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:52] <exec> 08└─or just maybe it's not the ABV but the AB InBev-SABMiller amalgamation
[02:03:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] 02Re:ineffective & false advertizing - 06US Subpoena Tests Privacy Promise of Encrypted Messaging App - 323 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:03:02] <exec> 08└─yeah , but you can build it from source (I did) and it doesn't differ from the play store. Granted maybe android has a built in keylogger - but signal allows a separate pass code for the app. Thinking about this, multi-passcode access is probably a good thing, when the $GO 1000 VT can force your fin...
[02:03:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03gawdonblue [412] 02I wonder... - 06Nobel in Physics for Secrets of Exotic Matter - 104 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:03:27] <exec> 08└─Wath it natural talent that got him where he ith today, or did David J Thouless make a deal with Thatan?
[02:03:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:"Can't we just drone this guy?" - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:03:45] <exec> 08└─find me one politician who does NOT fit the 'will do anything for more power' description. go ahead. I'm waiting.
[02:03:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:"Can't we just drone this guy?" - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 729 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:03:57] <exec> 08└─america won't wake up. if trump gets in (which I do seriously doubt) then the loonies will embrace him and the power brokers will try to leverage him. he won't be a laughing stock to those that can USE him. and powerful people always look to those they can USE to increase their own power and wealth....
[02:05:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03DrkShadow [1404] (Score:2) 02Re:Shockingly naive, IMO - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:05:43] <exec> 08└─I just don't think we should invalidate an entire category of human endeavor (doing useful stuff with software) any more than we would another (doing useful stuff with a factory).
[02:06:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Re:The God Delusion - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:06:05] <exec> 08└─Amen to that!
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[03:01:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Merissa Mayer, failure - 06Yahoo "Secretly Scanned Emails for US Authorities" - 1056 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:01:28] <exec> 08└─She decided the work at home folks had to come into the office. She bought a lot of questionable companies owned by people she used to work with, only to write down 90% of their value. She made yahoo/news pretty much useless. She did her best to make yahoo/finance useless, only to be foiled by stupi...
[03:01:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02This is news? - 06Yahoo "Secretly Scanned Emails for US Authorities" - 898 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:01:30] <exec> 08└─All the major communications players were in bed with the government, post 9/11/01, if they weren't already. All of them. And, that is why so many encryption schemes, and alternate communications methods are being created today. Government pushed, corporations caved in, and upstarts are trying to fi...
[03:01:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is news? - 06Yahoo "Secretly Scanned Emails for US Authorities" - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:32] <exec> 08└─Unless you work for government, of course. Then you have no trusted people. IP Address noted. Thank you, citizen, Now, pick up that can.
[03:01:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:Remember when Linux was buggy as shit? - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 639 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:43] <exec> 08└─I was able to reproduce the bug on Fedora Core 21 (kernel 4.1.8-100). After entering "NOTIFY_SOCKET=/run/systemd/notify systemd-notify "" as an unprivileged user, systemd became unresponsive in starting/stopping/restarting services as root. However, I was able to execute 'systemctl daemon-reload' as...
[03:01:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Remember when Linux was buggy as shit? - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:55] <exec> 08└─I thought it was: Do X Error Y Hm well let's try to reboot Do X Error Y Hm let's try to update Do X Error Y Hm let's try to recompile Do X Error Y Hm let' 2000 s go to the forums, bts, whatever "I do X, i get error Y" DIAF TROLL how dare you criticize SYSTEMD?!?!?! HAHA LOOK AT THE N00B THROWING A...
[03:01:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Bug is a result of Assert() - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:59] <exec> 08└─The assert covers unsanitized input, WTF?!?
[03:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:This is why "Not Systemd" - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 898 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:05] <exec> 08└─> You know NT is a microkernel, right? That was abandoned with Windows NT 4.0: The major architectural change in this version of Windows NT is the move of the Window Manager, Graphics Device Interface (GDI), and higher-level device drivers from the Win32 environment sub 1ff6 system into the Windows...
[03:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:This is why "Not Systemd" - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:08] <exec> 08└─No seriously - tell us how you really feel, AC.
[03:02:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02Re:Basics - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:11] <exec> 08└─Not a bug -a feature! Everyone knows Linux users *want* to spend hours and hours compiling and bug fixing and never showering and never leaving the basement!
[03:02:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Basics - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:13] <exec> 08└─Nah, you're good. But if you let the computer run anything past the BIOS, you're on your own.
[03:02:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02finally my thread - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 501 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:02:15] <exec> 08└─As you may remember I am the substitute for the long gone systemd troll. So, my insights. 1. become like windows, behave like windows. I DID WARN YOU. How did I know? Well, I did not switch off the brain. 2. a problem in systemd? good thing we gave systemd the task of managing cgroups so the damage...
[03:02:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:finally my thread - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:17] <exec> 08└─4. What about windows and systemd? "History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce." - Karl Marx
[03:02:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:3, Insightful) 02FUD-free opinion - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 995 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:02:19] <exec> 08└─Here's my FUD-free opinion on the subject: systemd doesn't matter Recently, I've come to the conclusion that FreeBSD is the right OS for any standard server machine. It has a clean, integrated core, and you can install whatever you need on top of it (Apache, etc.). For servers, Linux really only win...
[03:02:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] 02Re:re Reasons - 06FARC Peace Deal Rejected by Colombians - 366 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:45] <exec> 08└─I have just done some reading about Alvaro Uribe and if I read between the lines I can see him being very worried by the whole "all sides confessing" deal, as he is implicated in the right wing anti FARC side of this civil war, which seems to have been funded by the CIA. Being given the presidential...
[03:02:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fucking SJWs! - 06FARC Peace Deal Rejected by Colombians - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:57] <exec> 08└─I'm hoping we can go back to normal after November 8. I admit, I'm not entirely blameless in the crass trolling. It seems like the least destructive way to vent frustration with the ambient insanity right now. They keep trying to reassure me it'll all be ok and we're not actually going back to 1890s...
[03:06:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:education, honesty, work & service are encourag - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:18] <exec> 08└─It can happen when allow overloading of the equality operator. Problems like this may be why some language designers do not allow operator overloading.
[03:06:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:education, honesty, work & service are encourag - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:24] <exec> 08└─One last: How did HE let it get to Hillary vs. Trump??? :) As Depeche Mode say: "I don't want to start any blasphemous rumours But I think that God's got a sick sense of humor And when I die I expect to find Him laughing"
[03:06:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Re:education, honesty, work & service are encourag - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 1192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:26] <exec> 08└─I don't know about that. Any institution managed by humans are corruptible. Especially ones with "secret" top level operations. The devil isn't going to be the ugly self-centered mofo with a bad attitude and bad haircut, it will be the charitable charming well mannered guy in the suit. As someone el...
[03:06:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02You have a dirty mind--and not the good kind - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:47] <exec> 08└─Studies show that those with the strongest anti-LGBT attitudes are the folks who are most aroused by gay porn. ISTM that is a strong chance that your response reflects your own proclivities. ...and you can always Google something whose veracity you doubt. -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
[03:07:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:07:55] <exec> 08└─"I don't see why that's important." I can't make you see why that's important, but I can't make you see ultraviolet either. Ultraviolet exists, and there is a distinction between the Father and the Son. The Son said words to the effect, "There is no way to the Father, but through me." To lazy to loo...
[03:08:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:18] <exec> 08└─Judged by a jury of his peers. Don't you know ANYTHING about the constitution or the law?
[03:08:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:55] <exec> 08└─My memory of when there was an ad campaign was 2 slow seconds, eg "1 and 2 and". And that was before there was ABS and even (front) disc brakes were still a new thing on normal cars
[03:08:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:57] <exec> 08└─While its nice to leave a space between you and the car in front, around here, when busy, another car will fill in that gap pretty quick. So you slow down again and another car fills in the gap. Pretty quick you're not moving and now you're in danger of getting rear ended.
[03:10:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03an Anonymous Coward [2620] (Score:1) 02Re:Root cause - 06Toyota's $392 Robot Baby for Japanese People Without Companions - 531 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:13] <exec> 08└─Scuttlebutt among the seedier spots of the internet is basically that men have little interest becoming the domestic wage slaves their fathers are and the women aren't sexually attracted to men that they perceive as being less socially dominant than themselves. So, stay at home dads are out of the q...
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[04:01:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:This is news? - 06Yahoo "Secretly Scanned Emails for US Authorities" - 555 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:01:32] <exec> 08└─The only one I see completely in bed with the government is Microsoft. Google engineers were pissed at NSA MITMing their data pipes without their knowledge and implemented encryption pretty quickly. Most of the companies demand warrants for any data access (or those criminal NSLs). Microsoft seems t...
[04:01:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02This IS news - 06Yahoo "Secretly Scanned Emails for US Authorities" - 821 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:01:34] <exec> 08└─> This is news? it is news because it started only about a year ago. Long after the Snowden revelations set off an orgy of "fighting the man" in silicon valley. The official explanation for why all the big names were in bed with the NSA pre-snowden was that they thought it was their patriotic duty,...
[04:01:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03AudioGuy [24] (Score:2) 02The Intercept's slightly more blunt reaction - 06Yahoo "Secretly Scanned Emails for US Authorities" - 734 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:01:36] <exec> 08└─https://theintercept.com/2016/10/04/delete-your-yahoo-account/ [theintercept.com] (from their article) The fact that every single Yahoo email account was subject to this surveillance seems at odds with figures in Yahoo’s transparency report, which claims fewer than 20,000 accounts were tapped at t...
[04:02:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re: Eh... no thanks... - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:02:16] <exec> 08└─https://hardenedbsd.org/content/easy-feature-comparison [hardenedbsd.org]
[04:02:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Proof: The systemd developers are incompetant - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 655 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:02:17] <exec> 08└─systemd developers are fucking incompetent as fuck. this is proof they don't know what the fuck they are doing, and focus on shiny features. Yeah, so putting xinetd, cron, automount, and fuck knows what else, into one fucking package, has now been proven, beyond any doubt, to be a fucking irrational...
[04:02:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I don't care... - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:02:19] <exec> 08└─I'd rather have a bug with Linux that I know will be fixed soon in an update... than that crapware/spyware/bloatware/BSOD-POS they call Windows.
[04:02:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:why? - 0650% of Parents Knowingly Text Their Teens While Teens Are Driving - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:02:34] <exec> 08└─> "Why didnt you answer my text?" - Uh, because I don't have a cell phone / because phone battery was down. - My car is manual shift, I ignore distractions when driving. - I was on a busy road and couldn't find a safe place to pull over before texting. ... ... - Your crisis is not my crisis.
[04:02:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:why? - 0650% of Parents Knowingly Text Their Teens While Teens Are Driving - 477 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:02:36] <exec> 08└─Poor expectation. I get texts, email and phone calls all the time while driving. If I think there is need to check and followup immedatily, I pull over and then look at phone. Even with GPS on, I do not look at it while driving, I listen. My wife will look at it. Or again pull over and look, then...
[04:02:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathElk [4834] (Score:1) 02Re:re Reasons - 06FARC Peace Deal Rejected by Colombians - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:02:47] <exec> 08└─And thus the war continues.
[04:03:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fucking SJWs! - 06FARC Peace Deal Rejected by Colombians - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:03:02] <exec> 08└─They keep trying to reassure me it'll all be ok and we're not actually going back to 1890s wrt civil rights…
[04:03:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:ineffective & false advertizing - 06US Subpoena Tests Privacy Promise of Encrypted Messaging App - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:03:25] <exec> 08└─This is a lie. OWS cannot read the messages, so much is true, and the software they write may well be secure when used correctly. But OWS only works on compromised operating systems/platforms.
[04:03:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score:2) 02Re:ineffective & false advertizing - 06US Subpoena Tests Privacy Promise of Encrypted Messaging App - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:03:26] <exec> 08└─Oh no it's worse than that. Full information about everything you do propagates with the speed of light as light & gravity, and beyond that the quantum information is passed across wormholes in entangled particles instantly across the entire universe: all space and all time, even the "unobservable"...
[04:04:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Can't we just drone this guy?" - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:04:09] <exec> 08└─There have been many peaceful revolutions. Still being (mostly) a democracy helps. The people together can change things in a surprisingly short amount of time if they want to. The together part is the problem.
[04:04:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Can't we just drone this guy?" - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:04:11] <exec> 08└─If you think 8 years of hillary will do anything other than entrench the inequality and disenfranchisement you are dreaming. There will come a time soon when the state will, due to drone/robotic and other tech, be able to ignore the will of the people even more than they already blatantly do. And th...
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[05:01:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Merissa Mayer, failure - 06Yahoo "Secretly Scanned Emails for US Authorities" - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:01:41] <exec> 08└─I agree. It's a shame she isn't running for president.
[05:01:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This IS news - 06Yahoo "Secretly Scanned Emails for US Authorities" - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:01:46] <exec> 08└─it is news because it started only about a year ago.
[05:01:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This IS news - 06Yahoo "Secretly Scanned Emails for US Authorities" - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:01:49] <exec> 08└─> Maybe because you missed this: That was not a program that yahoo willingly participated in. Says so right in the subhead. So, thanks for wasting everyone's time, you are a bro.
[05:01:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:This is news? - 06Yahoo "Secretly Scanned Emails for US Authorities" - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:01:51] <exec> 08└─Nearly 50 years ago there was a movie made that fully predicted what is happening today. Check out "President's Analyst" starring James Coburn. It is a very funny movie, yet it is right on in showing the darker side of the Telco's power.
[05:03:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03IndigoFreak [3415] (Score:2) 02Re:re Reasons - 06FARC Peace Deal Rejected by Colombians - 469 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:03:03] <exec> 08└─If the government had the power to wipe out far they would have done it long ago. The war has been at a stalemate for a long time. It sounds as though the rebels are sick of fighting though. It's a good time to offer a carrot and assure peace. What you say sounds grand and strong, but does nothing b...
[05:04:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Can't we just drone this guy?" - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:04:28] <exec> 08└─If you think 8 years of hillary will do anything other than entrench the inequality and disenfranchisement you are dreaming.
[05:04:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Their followers are united and indistinguishabl - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:04:54] <exec> 08└─but most libertarians I know are voting for Trump
[05:05:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No evidence she ever said any such thing - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:05:02] <exec> 08└─Except one problem: Trump is also a psychotic sociopath. So, better the psychotic sociopath than the narcissistic, thin-skinned, psychotic sociopath?
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[05:08:39] <exec> 08└─I take it, then, that you would be in favor of the government forcing women to remain pregnant once that clump of cells appears to be human?
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[06:01:39] <exec> 08└─She decided the work at home folks had to come into the office. She bought a lot of questionable companies owned by people she used to work with, only to write down 90% of their value. She made yahoo/news pretty much useless. She did her best to make yahoo/finance useless, only to be foiled by stupi...
[06:01:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03 (Score:0) 02Re:Merissa Mayer, failure - 06Yahoo "Secretly Scanned Emails for US Authorities" - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:01:41] <exec> 08└─You're missing an 'x'.
[06:01:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:This is news? - 06Yahoo "Secretly Scanned Emails for US Authorities" - 957 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:01:46] <exec> 08└─Thuraisingham is currently the Louis A. Beecherl distinguished professor and executive director of the Cyber Security Research Institute at the University of Texas, Dallas, and a sought-after expert on data-mining, data management and information security issues. But in the 1990s, she worked for the...
[06:01:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This IS news - 06Yahoo "Secretly Scanned Emails for US Authorities" - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:01:52] <exec> 08└─Their patriotic duty, or they didn't want to serve 10 years in the can for fiddling with option valuation?
[06:01:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:This IS news - 06Yahoo "Secretly Scanned Emails for US Authorities" - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:01:54] <exec> 08└─"We've never received such a request, but if we did, our response would be simple: 'No way'," a spokesman for Google said in a statement. A Microsoft spokesperson said in a statement, "We have never engaged in the secret scanning of email traffic like what has been reported today about Yahoo.” The...
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[07:01:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Do not want. - 06MIT 3-D Printing Soft Materials for Robots and More - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:01:35] <exec> 08└─Sharp edges, corners, unnatural shapes in general, and grey finishes are unsexy. I'm saying "no" to this print-job and staying in my injection-molded sweetie's uncanny valley.
[07:02:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:1) 02Re:This is why "Not Systemd" - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 508 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:32] <exec> 08└─Neither NT nor Linux are pure types. NT started with a microkernel and over time evolved into a monolithic kernel, while Linux has done the opposite. And that's all completely beside the point you were replying to. He wasn't talking about a monolithic kernel necessarily. He was talking about monolit...
[07:02:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Basics - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:36] <exec> 08└─I think Grub is still independent of systemd.
[07:02:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Bot [3902] 02Re:finally my thread - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 107 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:39] <exec> 08└─4. What about windows and systemd? "History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce." - Karl Marx
[07:02:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02No sense of irony at all - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 743 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:02:45] <exec> 08└─"What makes it a tantrum? It’s a tantrum when you use a minor security issue as justification to rant about everything remotely related to systemd and insist on radical changes (throwing out systemd) to address what are mostly fixable quibbles — at least the quibbles that were based on facts...
[07:02:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:No sense of irony at all - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:47] <exec> 08└─This is not the first and it won't be the last bug of this type.
[07:03:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:2) 02Priorities - 0650% of Parents Knowingly Text Their Teens While Teens Are Driving - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:03:04] <exec> 08└─If people send me texts while I'm driving, I ignore it. If it wasn't important enough to warrant a voice call, it's not important enough to have to pull over immediately to respond to it. I've explained this to my friends and family, and most were accepting. Those who thought their brain-farts were...
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[07:11:33] <exec> 08└─Back in early 2014 I responded to an ad for a computer administrator, in San Francisco. It turned out to be a position with a company called Parsons that was working out of a few office trailers in a gritty corner of the SOMA (South-Of-Market[-Street]-Area), right by the train tracks. The work invol...
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[08:01:50] <exec> 08└─All the major communications players were in bed with the government, post 9/11/01, if they weren't already. All of them. And, that is why so many encryption schemes, and alternate communications methods are being created today. Government pushed, corporations caved in, and upstarts are trying to fi...
[08:02:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:FUD-free opinion - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:02:44] <exec> 08└─Hey if you like FreeBSD then use it, but when you say 'Linux' and equate it with RedHat you're missing a good deal. Slackware ain't dead.
[08:03:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:re Reasons - 06FARC Peace Deal Rejected by Colombians - 1999 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:03:23] <exec> 08└─Well, we've seen this before. Only fifteen years ago when Uribe (ex president of the Republic) let all the fucking paramilitaries off the hook, by allowing them time to buy uniforms (therefore making them an "army" instead of just bands of bastards). I would have voted "no" if I were near a consulat...
[08:04:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:These Nuts are making me Thirsty - 06US Subpoena Tests Privacy Promise of Encrypted Messaging App - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:04:00] <exec> 08└─The more people do it for no reason other than “because I can” the better.
[08:04:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:"Can't we just drone this guy?" - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:04:48] <exec> 08└─Yes, it would be important news, if she said it now, while being a candidate for President. However, when she did say it, six years ago, she was Secretary of State, and said it in a meeting about Assange releasing US secret documents. As a non-US citizen, being killed to prevent the release of this...
[08:05:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Fear... - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:05:28] <exec> 08└─> If I had time and a whole bunch of money, I might try the following social experiment: Democracy You used too many words in your original version.
[08:06:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03terryk30 [1753] (Score:1) 02Re:Shockingly naive, IMO - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 961 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:06:46] <exec> 08└─To further your contrasting of hardware invention as often requiring experimentation, the world of hardware throws up unexpected constraints from quirky materials and snags in working and tooling, unlike the world of software where the mere specification or outline of the problem essentially implies...
[08:09:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:25] <exec> 08└─Well, ff6 what do I know? I just dialled it and got unobtainable. Oh, I must be wrong. It might work in major cities in this country, but it sure as hell does nothing here where I live. That's probably why they don't advertise it then....
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[09:01:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Hopefully - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 711 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:01:32] <exec> 08└─hopefully the same zeal is used against other potential threats, immigrants from countries you are/have been at war with (pretty hefty list for you USians), people of religions bent on imposing totalitarianism, and the most dangerous of all, corrupt officials who take order from the international ul...
[09:06:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Shockingly naive, IMO - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 704 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:06:44] <exec> 08└─And if it's now broken, it's not the egg that he was given, it's a broken egg. The end of the shell is clearly being considered an integral part of the egg (as it is "its end"), and that's now been altered fundamentally. That's not balancing, that's changing. This puzzle is nothing more than a "tric...
[09:06:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Shockingly naive, IMO - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 474 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:06:50] <exec> 08└─> Software patents are a bad idea. This is how we got to [...] round rectangles (yes really) No, not at all. Round rectangles are a "design patent". They're at least as bogus as software patents, because at least software patents cover how a thing functions, but design patents only cover how it look...
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[10:01:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hopefully - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 394 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:01:33] <exec> 08└─See, I'd be the opposite. I firmly believe people, not guns, are the problem and police of perfectly justified to make observation on public events. That said, this is just begging for these events to be by invitation only, to where police would require a warrant to be on the property. In short, pol...
[10:01:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02not for lack of jurisdiction? - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:01:35] <exec> 08└─According to the ACLU Roughly two-thirds of the United States' population, about 200 million people, lives within the 100-mile zone that an outdated federal regulation defines as the border zone [...]
[10:02:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Re:Bug is a result of Assert() - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:02:37] <exec> 08└─Worse is: Main Circulating Pumps are shut down and control rods fully withdrawn. SKALA control system is signalling emergency. Ignore comrade, is Russian reactor, will not melt down.
[10:03:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nothing is safe by your standard - 06US Subpoena Tests Privacy Promise of Encrypted Messaging App - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:03:57] <exec> 08└─To claim that the hardware or OS it runs on IS compromised in such a way as to render this software ineffective HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN.
[10:04:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:That is a nice thought and all... - 06US Subpoena Tests Privacy Promise of Encrypted Messaging App - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:04:03] <exec> 08└─Spying on a commercial cell phone user, on the other hand, is not merely technically trivial and perfectly legal,
[10:08:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Transparency - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 910 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:08:06] <exec> 08└─It's certainly not a mark against any group, it's natural that you would respect those who have come to the same conclusions as you on matters that you find fundamentally important. As an igtheist (yes, I'm in that extremist cult that makes Dawkins look moderate!), I'm generally more friendly toward...
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[11:03:34] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DeathElk [4834] 02Re:re Reasons - 06FARC Peace Deal Rejected by Colombians - 27 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:03:34] <exec> 08└─And thus the war continues.
[11:05:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] 02Re:Fear... - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 77 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:05:46] <exec> 08└─To have the secretary of state say such things.... the US is really far gone.
[11:09:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondrake [2658] (Score:2) 02Re:No it doesn't! - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 1059 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:09:12] <exec> 08└─Execution and war is just murder with a license. Manslaughter is not murder either. It is still considered wrong. We probably don't even know what the Jews in 500 BC considered murder and what not. It may differ from what we call murder. Oh, and its not only English. Most European languages use some...
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[12:01:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Insightful) 02I'm not convinced this is legally improper - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 1817 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:01:56] <exec> 08└─There is no reasonable expectation of privacy when you are in public. Which includes leaving your car in a parking lot. Anybody who knows my car license plate could discover that yesterday I went to work, home, the grocery store, and a fast food joint yesterday. Or, if the cops wanted, they could ju...
[12:01:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Mod me down, make me round! - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:01:57] <exec> 08└─I can't wait for, "They came for Hillary, and everyone cheered!" :)
[12:03:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is why "Not Systemd" - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:03:06] <exec> 08└─The standard linux is still free of it. http://slackware.com [slackware.com]
[12:03:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Basics - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 8 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:03:15] <exec> 08└─For now.
[12:03:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:not surprises here - 0650% of Parents Knowingly Text Their Teens While Teens Are Driving - 512 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:03:37] <exec> 08└─Eh, just telling the kids to get out is easy. You have to be creative. Tell your kids over and over that they can stay through college and won't have to move out. Then, one day after freshman year, just far enough away from sophomore year that they can't move to campus early, call the cops on the ki...
[12:05:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03KiloByte [375] (Score:2) 02Re:"Can't we just drone this guy?" - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:05:14] <exec> 08└─A vast majority of them stays above, for example, MURDER of opponents.
[12:08:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02the epicycles mafia - 06Italian Official Cleared of Manslaughter Charges in Earthquake Trial - 750 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:08:52] <exec> 08└─A guy who studies relations between gases and earthquakes was also actively censored in the same context. In the similarly devastating quake of 1976 Friuli, a peculiar out of season heat wave preceded by a couple days the fi fbd rst event. At those time we had seasons and half seasons so a sudden in...
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[13:01:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02unfortunately ... - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:01:49] <exec> 08└─Icelanders may learn that People Can Never Get What They Want: Iceland is too dependent on a goodwill of world capital for too many necessities, that it can never survive for too long in defiance to it. Even much greater and more self-sufficient nations failed at it.
[13:01:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score:3, Informative) 02Not impressed - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:01:51] <exec> 08└─Iceland has a population of 333,000. If it wasn't formally a country, it'd be a small- to mid-sized city in any other larger country. Many such cities have elected mayors from goofy or unconventional political parties, and it makes absolutely no difference to the rest of the country - or the rest of...
[13:01:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not impressed - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:53] <exec> 08└─> I'll be more impressed when Sweden gets a majority Pirate Party government for example... Because what matters is how impressed you are. Every major social change started small. Yours is the logic of stasis.
[13:02:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Muddled - 06Evidence Found for Subsurface Ocean on Saturn's Moon Dione - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:02:01] <exec> 08└─Similar methods have been used before, but the data always seem to indicate that Dione had no such subterranean ocean. The new data, combined with a revised model of how the moon's crust should behave, changes that assumption...Dione now joins Titan, Enceladus, Europa, Ganymede and Pluto as the sola...
[13:02:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score:2) 02It's ocean is buried much deeper - 06Evidence Found for Subsurface Ocean on Saturn's Moon Dione - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:02:03] <exec> 08└─Humankind achieves incredible feats of science and engineering, such as finding buried oceans on faraway celestial bodies. Yet it's still unable to teach basic grammar to its children right here on Earth...
[13:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Re:It's ocean is buried much deeper - 06Evidence Found for Subsurface Ocean on Saturn's Moon Dione - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:06] <exec> 08└─Its spelling, it's causing brain itch.
[13:02:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02I'm not convinced this is legally improper - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 1817 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:02:16] <exec> 08└─There is no reasonable expectation of privacy when you are in public. Which includes leaving your car in a parking lot. Anybody who knows my car license plate could discover that yesterday I went to work, home, the grocery store, and a fast food joint yesterday. Or, if the cops wanted, they could ju...
[13:02:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'm not convinced this is legally improper - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 535 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:19] <exec> 08└─True, but you run into the issue of targeting for what is essentially a legal act. I doubt you'd be as sympathetic if cops where scanning all the plates at the Green Party's headquarters. And then there is the issue of federal officers, who are restricted by the 4th, co-opting local officers who hav...
[13:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Circumstances have changed, the law needs to too - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 484 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:21] <exec> 08└─> There is no reasonable expectation of privacy when you are in public. That is an archaic assertion. At the time video cameras were larger than washing machines, computers were larger than delivery trucks and both cost significantly more than an entire year's salary. So there actually was an expect...
[13:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Mod me down, make me round! - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:24] <exec> 08└─Did your prescription run out this week?
[13:02:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Intercept's slightly more blunt reaction - 06Yahoo "Secretly Scanned Emails for US Authorities" - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:57] <exec> 08└─fewer than 20,000 accounts were tapped
[13:03:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:This is why "Not Systemd" - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:33] <exec> 08└─linux has taken over the embedded world
[13:03:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:finally my thread - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:46] <exec> 08└─3. My counterd is not working as usual.
[13:03:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:FUD-free opinion - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:50] <exec> 08└─Let me fix your typo I've come to the conclusion that FreeBSD is the right OS for any machine
[13:03:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Slartibartfast [5104] (Score:1) 02Call me stupid... - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:03:56] <exec> 08└─While I'm not really pro- or anti- systemd, I think it's foolish to say that ANY system stability issue that can easily be triggered by a non-privileged user isn't major. This is right up there with the ol' F00F kernel bug.
[13:04:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:why? - 0650% of Parents Knowingly Text Their Teens While Teens Are Driving - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:04:15] <exec> 08└─between two grown adults.
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[14:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Stupidity again! - 06Johnson & Johnson Issues Security Warning About Insulin Pump - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:01:58] <exec> 08└─WTF does an important health care device need a WIRELESS connection, to anything? Way back in the earliest of the 1900's the army figured out that wired communications could be made secure, but wireless communications could not. Little has changed since. In this case, they didn't even attempt to mak...
[14:01:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Security hardening devices is costly - 06Johnson & Johnson Issues Security Warning About Insulin Pump - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:01:59] <exec> 08└─"Dear Valued Animas® OneTouch® Ping® Pump User" Trademarks are much cheaper. Let's do that instead.
[14:02:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not impressed - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 540 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:11] <exec> 08└─Not only that, but third parties in the US are basically thwarted by countless unfair rules (like for ballot access) designed to keep third parties out, even on the local level, and even in small cities. There are some third parties and independent candidates that have positions in local areas, but...
[14:02:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Re:Not impressed - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:13] <exec> 08└─First, they'd have to find someone as hot as Áslaug Sigurbjörnsdóttir to lead them...
[14:02:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not impressed - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:15] <exec> 08└─a country government can set/change policy on a whole heap of things a city government can't size is an irrelevant detail when comparing the two
[14:02:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Stardaemon [4294] (Score:1) 02Re:Not impressed - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:17] <exec> 08└─There is a bit of a difference though, in that they are actually a sovereign state, and as such have considerably more power over themselves. If Iceland decided to have go at conquering Ireland, they could, which is a bit more than your average city.
[14:02:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Comparison inappropriate - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:02:19] <exec> 08└─> The left-leaning party is part of a global anti-establishment typified by Britain's vote to leave the European Union Brexit was a right wing movement, UKIP were a breakaway party from the Conservatives, and with issues like immigration to the fore, and an unpleasant nationalistic feel, is very muc...
[14:02:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Comparison inappropriate - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:21] <exec> 08└─Your scientific butter is unwelcome in this most right-wing of staffing policies.
[14:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Comparison inappropriate - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:24] <exec> 08└─Brexit was anti-establishment you idiot. I voted for the brexit, get rekt. LUL
[14:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Comparison inappropriate - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:26] <exec> 08└─Ha ha! Stupid ignorant Kipper :-) You were led right up the garden path. Who funds UKIP? Which newspapers endorse its policies? Who are its most prominent members? Done up like a Kipper :-)
[14:02:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Webweasel [567] (Score:2) 02Re:Comparison inappropriate - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 584 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:28] <exec> 08└─I'd like to write you a polite reply about why I did vote to leave. I could mention stuff like the Lisbon treaty and give solid reasons for my vote. However, due to the insult in your post its quite clear that it would not have been possible to debate you on this subject. Your a zealot about the top...
[14:02:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Username [4557] (Score:2) 02Re:Comparison inappropriate - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 430 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:30] <exec> 08└─Maybe inappropriate, but accurate. The left is the establishment, and has been for some time now. Most anti-establishment types will be on the right. A pro-establishment view would be for a globalist government, not for independence. I’m not very familiar with UK to make an accurate comparison, bu...
[14:02:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Comparison inappropriate - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:32] <exec> 08└─Since when has The Left ever been the Establishment? This is the double-think we have come to expect from the New Right on the Intertubes.
[14:02:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Comparison inappropriate - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:34] <exec> 08└─Well said.
[14:02:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03tonyPick [1237] (Score:2) 02Re:Comparison inappropriate - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:37] <exec> 08└─Brexit was a right wing movement ... very much a pro-establishment view
[14:02:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02More EU? No, Thanks. - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 437 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:02:39] <exec> 08└─Iceland also withdrew her application [www.aecr.eu] for 'ascension' into the EU last year, as did Switzerland [breitbart.com] ("Only Lunatics Would Join Now") earlier this year. Both events were significantly downplayed by the 'world media' (that is controlled by the same half a dozen guys). Icelan...
[14:02:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Panspermia - 06Evidence Found for Subsurface Ocean on Saturn's Moon Dione - 2041 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:02:50] <exec> 08└─So this is all very exciting stuff obviously, because these oceans could hold life. Amazing as that discovery would be, however, it doesn't help us humans all that much in our quest to colonise the solar system / galaxy / universe. If life was found swimming about on one of these moons, let's say Eu...
[14:02:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not The Scientific Method - 06Evidence Found for Subsurface Ocean on Saturn's Moon Dione - 1719 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:02:52] <exec> 08└─Let me say it clearly so there is no misunderstanding: the 'space program' is a hoax. This "Cassini" story is out only to support the Heliocentric model. Sure the scientists behind the publication may have no clue, as the data is given to them (ceremoniously) and they have no control of or access to...
[14:03:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Circumstances have changed, the law needs to to - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 1151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:06] <exec> 08└─So there used to be an expectation of a good probability of privacy even in public places, but with new technologies, this is fading fast. This was ensured because folks would not vote for a big enough govt to have staff to watch many given the technology of the time. The question is if a lack of ex...
[14:03:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02So . . . . - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:03:09] <exec> 08└─First they came for the Muslims, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Muslim.
[14:03:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02But at least... - 06Shigella Outbreak in Flint, Michigan Complicated by Untrusted Water - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:03:17] <exec> 08└─At least they've got *freedom*, which is what the rest of the world is so freaking jealous of, amirite?
[14:04:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03jmorris [4844] 02This is why "Not Systemd" - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 1581 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:04:16] <exec> 08└─It isn't that this bug won't be swiftly squashed. It will be, and the distros will push updates quickly. The problem is that systemd, like all of the Red Hat / Pottering OS "Alien Tech" is built around the same defective ideas that have meant Windows NT / XP / 7 / 8 / 10 have been and probably alway...
[14:05:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:re Reasons - 06FARC Peace Deal Rejected by Colombians - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:05:16] <exec> 08└─why am I not surprised to hear this from you jmorris
[14:09:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:1) 02Re:education, honesty, work & service are encourag - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 999 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:20] <exec> 08└─I appreciate your sense of humor on that one. I'm probably going to vote for Evan McMullin (not because he's a Mormon but because he's makes the most sense of any I can find -- even the other 3rd-party candidates sound dangerous on some of their points, like Johnson's lack of knowledge on foreign po...
[14:11:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:No it doesn't! - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 635 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:06] <exec> 08└─The Bible says a lot of things. I have pointed out that it DOES NOT say "thou shalt not kill". The Christian/Jewish/Muslim God does indeed approve of killing. Killing isn't evil, the motive behind the killing is evil or not evil. And THAT is one of the serious problems people have with evaluating th...
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[15:02:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Criminal negligence - 06Johnson & Johnson Issues Security Warning About Insulin Pump - 346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:01] <exec> 08└─"it might be possible to take control of the pump via its an unencrypted radio frequency communication system" "Getting too high or too low a dose of insulin could severely sicken or even kill." So they made a device that they know can kill you, and rigged the controls using cleartext radio transmis...
[15:02:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Criminal negligence - 06Johnson & Johnson Issues Security Warning About Insulin Pump - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:03] <exec> 08└─But what, you have to ask, is an unencrypted radio frequency that makes it different from any other radio frequency? Confusing the channel and the payload, methinks. Anyway, I've got to jump in my old car and drive on the non-ABS motorway home. Where I'll boil me a nice cuppa coffee using my caffein...
[15:02:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Well, that's good. - 06Johnson & Johnson Issues Security Warning About Insulin Pump - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:05] <exec> 08└─There have been no instances of the pumps being hacked, Johnson & Johnson said.
[15:02:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Well, that's good. - 06Johnson & Johnson Issues Security Warning About Insulin Pump - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:07] <exec> 08└─"Reported instances" I'd guess.
[15:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Not impressed - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:20] <exec> 08└─because of how poorly designed and corrupt our political system is.
[15:02:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Not impressed - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:22] <exec> 08└─Personally, I prefer Lagertha [wikia.com] to Aslaug.
[15:02:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Username [4557] (Score:2) 02Re:Comparison inappropriate - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:33] <exec> 08└─Late 80s early 90s. When Gen X started taking over. First generation raised in front of the tv by the media. Think of the last time it was acceptable to tell someone their kid is a waste on school resources and wouldn’t be allowed to attend, or when it was ok for a women to have or agree with her...
[15:02:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Comparison inappropriate - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:34] <exec> 08└─That's nothing but a pig steaming pile of dogs' jobbies. I've never heard such a crazy argument.
[15:02:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Comparison inappropriate - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:36] <exec> 08└─You are right, he's an idiot. During the 80s and 90s the left were in retreat. The only way Clinton even got elected was by embracing all kinds of policies from the right like mass incarceration, NAFTA, war on drugs, and gutting welfare.
[15:02:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Comparison inappropriate - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:38] <exec> 08└─If the election had been Bernie vs. Trump, they'd both be rather anti-establishment. But of course they threw Bernie under the bus.
[15:02:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Comparison inappropriate - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:41] <exec> 08└─Trump is pure essence of Establishment. He is stupid selfish wealthy silver spoon exploitative ignorance personified.
[15:02:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Comparison inappropriate - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:43] <exec> 08└─Pity no one has thrown Hillary under the bus.
[15:02:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Comparison inappropriate - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 486 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:45] <exec> 08└─> Trump’s most definitely right of center. That is the most hilariously stupid thing I have heard for a long time. He is definitely big-everything, and big-everything are all right wing. And big-everything is the establishment (for at least 103 years in the USA, arguably longer). You sound like yo...
[15:02:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Username [4557] (Score:2) 02Re:Comparison inappropriate - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:47] <exec> 08└─If the right is big everything then how do you explain the tea party movement? Trump is most certainly not a globalist, and the only big thing he seems to want is a wall. Pretty sure he is against obamacare, and any other type of big government that will burden US citizens.
[15:02:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Branding - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:52] <exec> 08└─I think they should call themselves, "Ice Pirates [imdb.com]."
[15:03:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's ocean is buried much deeper - 06Evidence Found for Subsurface Ocean on Saturn's Moon Dione - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:03:03] <exec> 08└─Humankind achieves incredible feats of science and engineering, such as finding buried oceans on faraway celestial bodies. Yet it's still unable to teach basic grammar to its children right here on Earth...
[15:03:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Not The Scientific Method - 06Evidence Found for Subsurface Ocean on Saturn's Moon Dione - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:03:08] <exec> 08└─You get a ribbon for space article attendance.
[15:03:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Hopefully - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 635 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:03:19] <exec> 08└─>to where police would require a warrant to be on the property. How would that help with license plate scanning? You just put the scanners at the entrances and exits - probably already what they do anyway - why have expensive officers wandering the parking lots when a few automated cameras can be hi...
[15:03:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm not convinced this is legally improper - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:03:24] <exec> 08└─True, but you run into the issue of targeting for what is essentially a legal act.
[15:03:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:1) 02Re:I'm not convinced this is legally improper - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 2126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:03:26] <exec> 08└─"What they're looking for, as described above, are people who are engaged in the illegal act of gun smuggling." But who they are targeting, as determined by looking at the actions rather than listening to the justifications, are legal firearms enthusiasts, buyers, sellers, even just window-shoppers....
[15:03:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'm not convinced this is legally improper - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:03:28] <exec> 08└─True, but you run into the issue of targeting for what is essentially a legal act.
[15:03:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Laws of Men vs Laws of Physics - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 917 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:03:33] <exec> 08└─> Perhaps the answer is to separate the gathering of information from searching or using it. That's a modern sword of Damocles for ordinary citizens. If the information is there, it will eventually be abused because that's human nature. We've seen exactly that scenario play out where anti-terrorism...
[15:03:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So . . . . - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:03:38] <exec> 08└─Don't have to be a gun smuggler to be targeted by police, just have to have an out of state permit for concealed carry. [cbslocal.com]
[15:04:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Merissa Mayer, failure - 06Yahoo "Secretly Scanned Emails for US Authorities" - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:04:02] <exec> 08└─Dude, cut her some slack. Nobody's perfect.
[15:04:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:Remember when Linux was buggy as shit? - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 469 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:04:36] <exec> 08└─I will repeat - debian jessie does not have this bug. They are running an older/stable/patched version (2.15). Perhaps the issue with systemd is that different environments (kernel/libraries) etc has caused "bug boundaries" If you watched the last LP talk, there are attempts to greatly reduce this p...
[15:04:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is why "Not Systemd" - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:04:52] <exec> 08└─Try antiX Linux? Proudly (almost!! damn thing is like aids to flush out) systemd free!
[15:04:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:This is why "Not Systemd" - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:04:53] <exec> 08└─Well there is always Slackware. if they go to systemd you know it will be here for the long haul.
[15:05:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:finally my thread - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:05:07] <exec> 08└─DON'T GIVE THEM IDEAS!
[15:05:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02their interests are not yours, kids - 0650% of Parents Knowingly Text Their Teens While Teens Are Driving - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:05:37] <exec> 08└─your parents don't necessarily have your best interests in mind, you know. my parents actively sabotaged my career to keep me from moving out. this article sounds like it just assumes they care.
[15:06:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fucking SJWs! - 06FARC Peace Deal Rejected by Colombians - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:08] <exec> 08└─You're one of those young drama queens with no sense of history, aren't you? Let me guess, you've recently discovered and finished The Fountainhead and now realize society is losing all it's personal responsibilities and freedoms, right?
[15:08:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Fear... - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:02] <exec> 08└─It's a different sort of democracy than the one we have right now in the US though: Instead of electing representatives, they would be selected randomly from the population at large. In other words, instead of the most effective liars we'd have the luckiest person who was willing to do the job.
[15:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:1) 02Re:education, honesty, work & service are encourag - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 4049 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:54] <exec> 08└─You have well expressed a *really* important question, IMO, that some others have been asking too (and I didn't think then of what to say). I think I can see now. I strongly sympathize with your line of thinking. Like with the old Oliver "Ollie" North controversy from the Reagan years -- even though...
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[16:01:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02International Hoax - 06Orbital ATK Launch Set for Oct. 13, Nearly Two Years After Launch Failure - 1056 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:01:46] <exec> 08└─NASA et al are scammers. None of the sworn freemasons or military persons under oath will ever admit to you that they are faking the space program. There is no curvature of the Earth, nor is there any spinning. Simple facts that can be trivially proven with a x200 telescope, and a precision gyroscop...
[16:01:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:2) 02Re:Stupidity again! - 06Johnson & Johnson Issues Security Warning About Insulin Pump - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:01:55] <exec> 08└─I think it's pretty obvious why wireless is the preferred option here. Unless you want a micro-USB port sticking out of your body (there is a docking joke in there somewhere...). Leaving it unencrypted is pretty negligent though...
[16:01:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Stupidity again! - 06Johnson & Johnson Issues Security Warning About Insulin Pump - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:01:57] <exec> 08└─Unless you want a micro-USB port sticking out of your body
[16:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Username [4557] (Score:2) 02Re:Stupidity again! - 06Johnson & Johnson Issues Security Warning About Insulin Pump - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:01:59] <exec> 08└─Because encryption is pointless and only adds to complexity. Look at ATSC, it’s all open anyone can disrupt it, or hijack it, but no one does. It’s not even a felony A to do so. I wouldn’t want a wireless infusion pump either, but that’s mainly for stability reasons. If I wanted to kill some...
[16:02:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Stupidity again! - 06Johnson & Johnson Issues Security Warning About Insulin Pump - 766 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:02] <exec> 08└─> WTF does an important health care device need a WIRELESS connection, to anything? One use is mentioned in the article: to "order the pump to give [...] a dose of insulin." For an insulin pump, I would suppose that is a key feature. > Way back in the earliest of the 1900's the army figured out that...
[16:02:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Stupidity again! - 06Johnson & Johnson Issues Security Warning About Insulin Pump - 1975 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:04] <exec> 08└─> WTF does an important health care device need a WIRELESS connection I know the answer because my daughter uses a different brand than the J&J pump from TFA. 1. If you use a sensor. This is a separate device with its own attachment to the body. It samples blood glucose every few minutes. It sends i...
[16:02:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:Criminal negligence - 06Johnson & Johnson Issues Security Warning About Insulin Pump - 477 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:09] <exec> 08└─"But what, you have to ask, is an unencrypted radio frequency " Funny, but there's a more charitable way to parse it. "via its an unencrypted radio frequency communication system" So I read 'unencrypted' and 'radio frequency' as separate adjectives modifying 'communication system' rather than readin...
[16:02:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fnord666 [652] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Authentication vs. Encryption - 06Johnson & Johnson Issues Security Warning About Insulin Pump - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:02:13] <exec> 08└─The issue is really authentication, not encryption. Failing to encrypt the traffic is not cool, but does little physical harm. Accepting command signals from unauthenticated sources on the other hand should be considered criminal negligence.
[16:02:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Authentication vs. Encryption - 06Johnson & Johnson Issues Security Warning About Insulin Pump - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:15] <exec> 08└─Authentication can be sniffed and spoofed. Gotta encrypt to securely authenticate.
[16:02:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:unfortunately ... - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 470 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:26] <exec> 08└─I think you're overlooking the Norse mindset here. This is fricken Iceland we're talking about here. Settled by exiled Norwegian vikings who had to learn how to make do on a shitty volcanic island in the middle of nowhere. You don't breed that hardiness out easily, especially not on a largely isolat...
[16:02:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not impressed - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 525 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:31] <exec> 08└─Indeed. As Iceland goes, so goes the world. Your other "revolutions" started small, but also at some time and/or place that was relevant. Rosa Parks sitting on a bus during the charged atmosphere of the mid-60s is a lot different than sitting on a bus in Iceland. If their country had leverage of any...
[16:02:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not impressed - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:35] <exec> 08└─First, they'd have to find someone as hot as Áslaug Sigurbjörnsdóttir to lead them... This is a photo that came up when I searched for Áslaug Sigurbjörnsdóttir [www.dv.is] Not really my type, but go for it. I don't judge.
[16:02:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03GlennC [3656] (Score:2) 02Re:Not impressed - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:37] <exec> 08└─I don't know where you found that, but when I searched I found an intelligent, articulate and lovely young lady. http://www.aslaugarna.is [aslaugarna.is] Of course, in proper Icelandic no man would ever have a surname that ended in 'dottir', as that means 'daughter'.
[16:02:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not impressed - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:42] <exec> 08└─Depends on what you mean with "they could". A city could in principle decide to conquer some other city or even country using their police force. They'd of course violate country laws and would quickly be stopped. But then, if Iceland tried to conquer Ireland, they'd violate international laws and w...
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[16:02:54] <exec> 08└─This isn't informative, it's ignorant. Being rich doesn't make you "establishment". Trump isn't in favor of globalism (anti-globalism is the foundation of his campaign), and isn't in bed with typical establishment industries like defense and finance. He's in real estate, in case you haven't noticed....
[16:02:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03tonyPick [1237] (Score:2) 02Re:Comparison inappropriate - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:56] <exec> 08└─establishment, definitely not.
[16:02:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Comparison inappropriate - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:58] <exec> 08└─Stupid, yes; selfish, yes; wealthy, yes; silver spoon, yes; exploitative, yes; establishment, definitely not. That's Hillary.
[16:03:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Comparison inappropriate - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:01] <exec> 08└─It's all her minders can do to stop her falling under it.
[16:03:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:More EU? No, Thanks. - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:08] <exec> 08└─It seems to me the Scandinavians would be better off if they seceded from the EU (they already don't use the Euro for currency), and then created their own union.
[16:03:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's ocean is buried much deeper - 06Evidence Found for Subsurface Ocean on Saturn's Moon Dione - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:21] <exec> 08└─It's is not, it isn't ain't, and it's it's, not its, if you mean it is. If you don't, it's its. Then too, it's hers. It isn't her's. It isn't our's either. It's ours, and likewise yours and theirs. -- Oxford University Press, Edpress News
[16:03:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:It's ocean is buried much deeper - 06Evidence Found for Subsurface Ocean on Saturn's Moon Dione - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:22] <exec> 08└─Now this is the kind of participation I like to see.
[16:03:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hopefully - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:36] <exec> 08└─How do you do such without targeting ethnic groups? It's not like all immigrants from Country X hang out together, except maybe in a religious gathering, but then you are examining an entire religion, not just from a specific country. Collateral targeting.
[16:03:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:I'm not convinced this is legally improper - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:43] <exec> 08└─The point to an armed citizenry is not to fight the government. It's to deter tyranny. Very different things.
[16:03:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'm not convinced this is legally improper - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:03:45] <exec> 08└─Till now.
[16:03:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03redneckmother [3597] (Score:1) 02Re:I'm not convinced this is legally improper - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:47] <exec> 08└─Respectfully, I must disagree with your assertion that voting can or will change anything. To me, it is painfully obvious that the electoral system is rigged in the US. Few people who SHOULD be elected ARE elected, and those in power remain in power.
[16:03:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'm not convinced this is legally improper - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 461 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:49] <exec> 08└─"if the government knows who has guns, when they get all oppressive and take away everyone's guns they'll know whose door to knock on, and we can't have that". My experience is that those gun owners that are really paranoid about the government knowing they are gun owners is that these aren't the fo...
[16:03:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So . . . . - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:59] <exec> 08└─Yes, but including that is a sad attempt at sounding insightful because it doesn't apply. If they were going after all the people who attended the gun show, then yes, that would apply, but going after the gun smugglers doesn't make that quote apply. The Jews were an innocent group that they "went af...
[16:04:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is news? - 06Yahoo "Secretly Scanned Emails for US Authorities" - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:04:29] <exec> 08└─Google engineers were pissed at NSA MITMing their data pipes without their knowledge and implemented encryption pretty quickly.
[16:04:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This IS news - 06Yahoo "Secretly Scanned Emails for US Authorities" - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:04:34] <exec> 08└─Why does it have to be either/or?
[16:04:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This IS news - 06Yahoo "Secretly Scanned Emails for US Authorities" - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:04:37] <exec> 08└─You are using those quote marks like it is what twitter and facebook literally said, but that's not the case, that's the WSJ's rephrasing.
[16:04:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Spamalope [5233] (Score:2) 02Re:This is news? - 06Yahoo "Secretly Scanned Emails for US Authorities" - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:04:41] <exec> 08└─Apple is the only "major corp" that hasn't jumped into the orgy with Uncle Sam
[16:05:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Remember when Linux was buggy as shit? - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:05:05] <exec> 08└─So you didn't install kernel patches for over a year? Anyway, such uptime should be easy to achieve (not tested): Start BIOS, set time to past, boot OS, set time to correct value (or let NTP do that).
[16:05:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is why "Not Systemd" - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:05:23] <exec> 08└─iOS is based on FreeBSD like MacOS is, so at least one embedded device running *BSD
[16:06:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:why? - 0650% of Parents Knowingly Text Their Teens While Teens Are Driving - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:02] <exec> 08└─Sorry, I'm already fully occupied with driving and texting. I don't think I could handle thinking on top of that. ;-)
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[17:01:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Old tech - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:01:49] <exec> 08└─Lameframe authentication had these for years. Google Authenticator is a modern, more secure equivalent (as it changes more frequently), although there are a couple of minor exploits possible using time changes. Still, it's way better than what my bank uses.
[17:01:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Old tech - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:01:51] <exec> 08└─Let's talk about old tech. TFA says . . . But on the new card the digits are displayed on a small LED 7-segment display
[17:01:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:Old tech - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:01:53] <exec> 08└─That would suck the battery dry very quickly.
[17:01:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Like RSA cards? - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:01:55] <exec> 08└─Isn't this how those Kerberos RSA cards work?
[17:01:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Like RSA cards? - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:01:57] <exec> 08└─I'd say yes, though mine uses 6 digits, and the app version uses 8 digits. Generating a full 16+3-digits pseudo-random card number would be a lot safer 2000 than just the 3-digit code.
[17:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02What Happens To ... - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:01:59] <exec> 08└─What happens to my saved card details - which includes the CCV - when I try to use them on a site like Amazon? Do I have to enter the new CCV every time I make a purchase?
[17:02:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:What Happens To ... - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:02] <exec> 08└─Would having to enter the CCV every time be such a bad thing?
[17:02:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:What Happens To ... - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 2026 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:04] <exec> 08└─I'm going to intentionally not use the technical terms because if you knew the words you'd already have googled the answer. The way you're supposed to do it under all the industry regulations on signed merchant contracts is one time and one time only you give the bank the customer information, ask f...
[17:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02seen it before - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 684 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:02:06] <exec> 08└─I've seen technologies like this in the past for various purposes; I guess the unique angle here is using it for bank cards? I used to have a "card" that had my PIN to use my dial-up modem. It had a number that changed every X hours (I don't remember the exact number), apparently based on a list of...
[17:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Simple ago - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:02:08] <exec> 08└─The three digits on the back of this card .... No details are given on how the card issuer and businesses keep synchronised with the current valid card number.
[17:02:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:International Hoax - 06Orbital ATK Launch Set for Oct. 13, Nearly Two Years After Launch Failure - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:17] <exec> 08└─You need a new act, son. This one has run its course. Nobody bites on them any more.
[17:02:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Press release - 06Orbital ATK Launch Set for Oct. 13, Nearly Two Years After Launch Failure - 836 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:02:20] <exec> 08└─The press release its based off is here: https://www.orbitalatk.com [orbitalatk.com] Not a rickroll. Although "never gonna give you up" would be a good theme song to a mission scheduled for less than a week after a cat4 hurricane smashes the place flat. I m...
[17:02:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Press release - 06Orbital ATK Launch Set for Oct. 13, Nearly Two Years After Launch Failure - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:22] <exec> 08└─Until they are in "the club", SpaceX needs all the attention it can get. They've got a long ways to go yet [businessinsider.com] before they get there.
[17:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Press release - 06Orbital ATK Launch Set for Oct. 13, Nearly Two Years After Launch Failure - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:24] <exec> 08└─It's usually more fun to root for the new guy pulling an upset. We might have to revise that...
[17:02:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Stupidity again! - 06Johnson & Johnson Issues Security Warning About Insulin Pump - 466 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:36] <exec> 08└─The pump isn't inside the body. I think you need some more coffee. It's a PUMP that injects insulin. If the whole thing were installed inside your body, how would you refill or recharge it? Of course it has some sort of jack or plug to recharge the battery, and I'll bet it's a USB port. There is ZER...
[17:02:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Stupidity again! - 06Johnson & Johnson Issues Security Warning About Insulin Pump - 688 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:38] <exec> 08└─You could always get a syringe full of insulin and jab them with it. But then, they could drink a bottle of pancake syrup (not the "lite" kind) and head to the ER. Insulin and syringes are over the counter in most states. Of course, I remember when my daughter was much younger, and for some odd reas...
[17:02:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Criminal negligence - 06Johnson & Johnson Issues Security Warning About Insulin Pump - 497 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:46] <exec> 08└─You know, they could just build the device with reasonable safeguards. No wireless command can cause the pump to inject more than XX units of insulin per YY unit of time. To do that you need to use the keypad on the pump. That would be sort of like an IoT thermostat being commanded to lower the temp...
[17:02:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Well, that's good. - 06Johnson & Johnson Issues Security Warning About Insulin Pump - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:50] <exec> 08└─I bet the number of deaths from using the product is pretty near zero. And if there are any, they are probably explainable. The pump does keep logs.
[17:02:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Authentication vs. Encryption - 06Johnson & Johnson Issues Security Warning About Insulin Pump - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:55] <exec> 08└─Now go read up on the next article about those new French bank cards, Mr. Smarty-pants.
[17:03:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03nyder [4525] (Score:2) 02Re:unfortunately ... - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:06] <exec> 08└─huh? Icelanders tend to not get stuck behind stupid politics. When the bankers fucked over people, Iceland threw them in jail. People do get what they want in Iceland, and the world should take note.
[17:03:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Comparison inappropriate - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:25] <exec> 08└─> Not all of us are "they took our jerbs" idiots. Great you are a special snowflake. Obviously no large group of people is monolithic, but hiding behind the fact that there are exceptions just obscures the fact that the majority of brexit voters were not so principled.
[17:03:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Trump is just about Trump - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:40] <exec> 08└─Given Trump's incoherence and continual flip flopping, I don't think it makes much sense to try to classify Trump by political ideology. Trump is all about Trump. That's the only constant I see. He is leading a cult of personality.
[17:03:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's ocean is buried much deeper - 06Evidence Found for Subsurface Ocean on Saturn's Moon Dione - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:59] <exec> 08└─You misunderstand; scientists and academics and educated members of humankind had made this discovery. The ignorant masses that are unfamiliar with your grammatical concepts (or choose to not care about them) are not the ones doing the rocket science, for good reason.
[17:04:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimtheowl [5929] (Score:2) 02Re:Panspermia - 06Evidence Found for Subsurface Ocean on Saturn's Moon Dione - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:04:02] <exec> 08└─"it doesn't help us humans all that much in our quest to colonise the solar system / galaxy / universe." Who says that this is humanity's quest? What about exploring, studying and understanding the solar system / galaxy / universe and ourselves first?
[17:04:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:Not The Scientific Method - 06Evidence Found for Subsurface Ocean on Saturn's Moon Dione - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:04:06] <exec> 08└─Let's skip over all the conspiracy nonsense and address the only vaguely sane point in the above rant: NASA is siphoning FIFTEEN (15) million dollars per day,
[17:04:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Hopefully - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:04:19] <exec> 08└─If the government really cares about reducing gun smuggling maybe they should stop smuggling guns.
[17:04:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm not convinced this is legally improper - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:04:28] <exec> 08└─Would you rather be hanged with a red rope, or a blue rope? You get to vote!
[17:04:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mod me down, make me round! - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:04:37] <exec> 08└─There's a treatment for Hillary Hatred Derangement Syndrome?
[17:04:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So . . . . - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:04:42] <exec> 08└─They should round up all anonymous cowards, since they refuse to identify themselves as being of the sort to be properly disposed of in an orderly and straightforward fashion.
[17:04:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So . . . . - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:04:45] <exec> 08└─Yes. Let's have ground up all anonymous cowards day.
[17:04:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:But at least... - 06Shigella Outbreak in Flint, Michigan Complicated by Untrusted Water - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:04:54] <exec> 08└─It's an extra layer of anti-terror protection: Michigan winters, Proximity to Detroit, Flint skyline, lead water, and now diseases... "Not even suicidal terrorists would ever come here, this is the safest place in the USA"
[17:06:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Darwin Award - 0650% of Parents Knowingly Text Their Teens While Teens Are Driving - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:06:52] <exec> 08└─So if you text your only offspring and it results in an accident and their death, do you qualify for a darwin award?
[17:09:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02Re:Fear... - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:15] <exec> 08└─I believe the proper term is demarchy.
[17:11:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:1) 02Re:Transparency - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:52] <exec> 08└─Fwiw I finally tried to answer this, might not be adequate for you but is in 4 bullets at this part of the discussion: https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org]
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[18:02:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Have any Soylentils noticed any effect ... - 06Atlantic Ocean's Slowing Current Flow Linked to Changes in Southern Hemisphere - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:08] <exec> 08└─Specifically, there's now an article about it on SN....
[18:02:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Politics - 06Atlantic Ocean's Slowing Current Flow Linked to Changes in Southern Hemisphere - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:10] <exec> 08└─The finding could have implications for northern European and eastern U.S. climates, and for understanding how the world's oceans carry heat from the tropics toward the poles.
[18:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02Re:Old tech - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:23] <exec> 08└─I think that this is an ideal situation for Eink. Low profile, low power, reflective display.
[18:02:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What Happens To ... - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:29] <exec> 08└─Came here to say this. Convenience is not always to your benefit...
[18:02:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:What Happens To ... - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:32] <exec> 08└─but usually people dumb enough to do this have one mysql table called "victims^H^Hcustomers"
[18:02:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Simple ago - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:37] <exec> 08└─I would LOL if the damn things just count up 000-999 sequentially.
[18:02:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Brute force? - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:39] <exec> 08└─In one hour I'm pretty sure even the crappiest computer in existence could brute force a 3 digit pin. Will the bank lock down the account after 5 failed attempts? Why don't they use a longer pin and shorter time frame?
[18:02:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Brute force? - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:41] <exec> 08└─Will the bank lock down the account after 5 failed attempts?
[18:02:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Brute force? - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 971 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:43] <exec> 08└─If you think like a big bank, cutting your fraud expense by a factor of 1000 is darn near as good as cutting it to zero. Also the bank can go all "check card" and attack the end user, why our system is infallible therefore all fraud reports must be fake or an inside job, if that scares away even 1%...
[18:02:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:Brute force? - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:46] <exec> 08└─I'm not seeing any reports of the existing chips on cards being brute forced. It is not something that the average home enthusiast can manage. Why do you think that this chip will be any easier?
[18:02:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:Brute force? - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:48] <exec> 08└─And they are not saying that this will prevent fraud if you do not have the card in your possession - it only prevents fraud from someone having your card details.
[18:02:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Brute force? - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:50] <exec> 08└─Its not the type of thing these companies will openly publish, and its not a good enough story for a reporter to hunt down. Actually, reporters don't hunt anything down anymore unless its name is on some street in Los Angeles.
[18:02:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Powered by lithium battery - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:52] <exec> 08└─"Dispose in accordance with local regulations". Does that mean it will explode in your pocket, or in the shredder?
[18:02:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Powered by lithium battery - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:54] <exec> 08└─Well we all know the shredder would love exploding credit cards...
[18:02:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02And what will be the U.S. latency? - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:57] <exec> 08└─Given that the US just began transitioning to 'chip' cards last year, and most retailers *still* don't do chip transactions, I wonder how long it will be before this type card arrives in the US?
[18:02:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02One kind of fraud - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:59] <exec> 08└─This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud
[18:03:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Orbital ATK - 06Orbital ATK Launch Set for Oct. 13, Nearly Two Years After Launch Failure - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:03:12] <exec> 08└─I bought it at the equivalent of $58 a share back then. It's $76 a share today. Not bad for 2 years, not bad. Of course it's been higher lately, but I'm a buy and hold kind of guy.
[18:03:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:2) 02Re:Stupidity again! - 06Johnson & Johnson Issues Security Warning About Insulin Pump - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:03:25] <exec> 08└─Ahh, good call. I didn't actually click the link or anything, but what you say makes perfect sense. -- Snow
[18:03:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Stupidity again! - 06Johnson & Johnson Issues Security Warning About Insulin Pump - 713 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:03:26] <exec> 08└─Let me think about this for just a moment . . . . They are sticking some foreign object into your body already, right? Just how difficult would it be to put a jack into your body, with which to connect to the device? I mean - there you have the body, insert part A, and part B on a trailing tail. Nee...
[18:03:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Stupidity again! - 06Johnson & Johnson Issues Security Warning About Insulin Pump - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:03:32] <exec> 08└─"slightest changes to the design require a very long FDA approval process" On the other hand, the pharmaceuticals can get approval for new uses for old drugs and other underhanded tricks, relatively quick. Crazy, ain't it?
[18:03:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Not impressed - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 209 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:03:57] <exec> 08└─> I'll be more impressed when Sweden gets a majority Pirate Party government for example... Because what matters is how impressed you are. Every major social change started small. Yours is the logic of stasis.
[18:04:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not impressed - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 521 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:02] <exec> 08└─> Rosa Parks sitting on a bus during the charged atmosphere of the mid-60s is a lot different than sitting on a bus in Iceland. Bad example. Rosa Parks sat on a bus in Montgomery Alabama, its not even big enough to qualify as one of the 100 largest cities in the USA. Its not even the largest city in...
[18:04:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score:2) 02Re:Not impressed - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:06] <exec> 08└─Personally, I prefer Lagertha [wikia.com] to Aslaug.
[18:04:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not impressed - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:13] <exec> 08└─Are you sure? We're not just talking Vikings here or pirates there, but Viking pirates! Let's hope they go raiding in the US and give us a better political system after they've re-conquered Ireland and Great Britain.
[18:04:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not impressed - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:15] <exec> 08└─Iceland has a population of 333,000.What a Mickey Mouse little country!
[18:04:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:More EU? No, Thanks. - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:43] <exec> 08└─It's called "accession" not "ascension".
[18:05:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'm not convinced this is legally improper - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 497 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:05:28] <exec> 08└─Ironically these same guys are usually the ones who advertise they have guns and are paranoid when they plaster their vehicles with bumper stickers like "NRA - Stand and Fight", "Don't trust the liberal media", "Nobama", "Come and get it (with picture of AK-47)", a Confederate Flag, and "Hillary for...
[18:05:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mod me down, make me round! - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:05:36] <exec> 08└─It's called "How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Lizard People."
[18:05:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Uh, no - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 408 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:05:43] <exec> 08└─Uh no, they were not "going after" gun smugglers. THey were going after people who attended a gun show and also crossed the border in the hope that they were gun smugglers. Just like the maryland police were going after people with CCWs who crossed the border into Maryland in the hope that they were...
[18:06:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Merissa Mayer, failure - 06Yahoo "Secretly Scanned Emails for US Authorities" - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:06:12] <exec> 08└─You're correct, but on the other hand, only very few are this bad as well.
[18:06:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Law abiding - 06Yahoo "Secretly Scanned Emails for US Authorities" - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:06:30] <exec> 08└─Yahoo is a law abiding company, and complies with the laws of the United States
[18:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:FUD-free opinion - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:29] <exec> 08└─I exclusively use Arch Linux and Debian on the Linux side, my dear friend Arik. Neither of which are RedHat nor are they systemd exclusive, regardless of whether they ship it by default now. As far as I'm concerned, Slackware is just a lukewarm LFS.
[18:07:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:FUD-free opinion - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:32] <exec> 08└─No, FreeBSD is not the right OS for my personal machine. I like being able to modify my kernel/core userland freely, and the BSD model obstructs that. Personal OS preferences are, well, personal, but for servers there are a few objective rights and wrongs. Nothing wrong with BSD, I just like breakin...
[18:07:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:FUD-free opinion - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:34] <exec> 08└─and the BSD model obstructs that
[18:07:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:why? - 0650% of Parents Knowingly Text Their Teens While Teens Are Driving - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:55] <exec> 08└─"Why didnt you answer my text?" "Uh Driving..." "So? It was important you need to answer me" "It's even more important that I STAY ALIVE, you moron! Anyone who texts or reads anything but road signs while driving is as dumb as a box of rocks."
[18:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So which is it? - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:08] <exec> 08└─Really? You were fucking Bill Clinton?
[18:12:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:1) 02money - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:59] <exec> 08└─Fwiw I finally tried to answer this a little better as far as Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints' businesses go, might not be adequate for you but is in 4 bullets at this part of the discussion: https://soylentnews.org
[18:13:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:1) 02Re:Transparency - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:11] <exec> 08└─Fwiw I finally tried to answer this a little better as far as Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints' businesses go, might not be adequate for you but is in 4 bullets at this part of the discussion: https://soylentnews.org
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[19:01:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Politics - 06Atlantic Ocean's Slowing Current Flow Linked to Changes in Southern Hemisphere - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:01:54] <exec> 08└─All the anti-immigration people should be forced to stay on the island...
[19:01:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Politics - 06Atlantic Ocean's Slowing Current Flow Linked to Changes in Southern Hemisphere - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:01:55] <exec> 08└─Those immigrants who are ok with going to Sweden might still be tempted by the Frozen United Christian Kingdom, and they won't have to sneak onto ferries if they can just walk across the ice.
[19:01:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Effect - 06Atlantic Ocean's Slowing Current Flow Linked to Changes in Southern Hemisphere - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:01:57] <exec> 08└─Have any Soylentils noticed any effect from the current slowdown?
[19:01:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Effect - 06Atlantic Ocean's Slowing Current Flow Linked to Changes in Southern Hemisphere - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:00] <exec> 08└─It's been more than an hour since you posted. Are you still cold?
[19:02:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Effect - 06Atlantic Ocean's Slowing Current Flow Linked to Changes in Southern Hemisphere - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:02] <exec> 08└─Oh no, already buried by the glaciers :( d69
[19:03:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03PocketSizeSUn [5340] (Score:2) 02Re:Stupidity again! - 06Johnson & Johnson Issues Security Warning About Insulin Pump - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:03] <exec> 08└─There are both kinds of drug pumps. Implanted and external. Most of the insulin ones are external (The ones I've seen look like a pager attached to a belt) with a fixed drip line (that also has it's own issues). For the implanted pump the reservoir is usually refilled with a needle. Not sure about e...
[19:03:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Stupidity again! - 06Johnson & Johnson Issues Security Warning About Insulin Pump - 555 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:05] <exec> 08└─The traditional answer was a device that requires a magnetic (I think) induction loop to be placed ON the body and held in position while adjusting the device. This is certainly the approach used by my wife's pacemaker. No USB port but also no distance adjustment. Even for an external device this wo...
[19:03:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03PocketSizeSUn [5340] (Score:2) 02Re:Stupidity again! - 06Johnson & Johnson Issues Security Warning About Insulin Pump - 682 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:13] <exec> 08└─Actually that's a bit different. Once a drug is approved (in the market) a doctor can prescribe the drug for "off label uses". Getting the drug on the market is hard, using it for something else is easy. Drug pumps have a similar set of restrictions. A pump is approved for a specific drug, or subset...
[19:03:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Not impressed - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 856 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:42] <exec> 08└─Ballot access isn't the problem. It was a minor problem at one time, but not recently. The real problem is structural. The election system is designed as plurality wins, no majority required. This is a huge pr 1ff6 oblem This means that if there are four significant parties, than a candidate who get...
[19:03:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''Rosa Parks'' - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:46] <exec> 08└─Rosa Parks sitting on a bus during the charged atmosphere of the mid-60s You got the broad strokes right, but the Montgomery bus boycott started in 1955 and lasted for 13 months. -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
[19:04:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''get all sorts of political favors'' - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 615 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:04:14] <exec> 08└─Yes. That's the essence of "The Establishment". The other identifying feature is their ownership of the vast majority of all the stuff. As mcgrew said, "you can't get more establishment than real estate". . ...and several folks in this thread are using the term "Left" incorrectly as well. Left == An...
[19:04:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02...and another inappropriate comparison - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 463 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:04:24] <exec> 08└─FTFS: the anti-austerity of Greece's Syriza SYRIZA[1] **campaigned** on an anti-austerity platform. As soon as they gained power, however, they embraced austerity enthusiastically. The self-proclaimed "Left" party in Spain, Podemos, appears to be cut from the same cloth. When they gained the mayora...
[19:05:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Hopefully - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:00] <exec> 08└─The current approach is more like removing the weapons from one person at a duel.
[19:05:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02 - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 0 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org 2000 (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:11] <exec> 08└─
[19:05:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm not convinced this is legally improper - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 1211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:13] <exec> 08└─> By the same logic they could arbitrarily decide that there was probably an enviro-terrorist active inside the green party HQ and therefore target everyone that visits it. There was that whole COINTELPRO thing. In the 1980s there were reports about plate numbers being written down during meetings o...
[19:05:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Circumstances have changed, the law needs to to - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:21] <exec> 08└─So are you saying that when you are walking around the grocery store or a county fair or some other public event, you assume that nobody will see what you're doing? That's what is meant by a reasonable expectation of privacy: Things going on in your living room or your bedroom are different from wal...
[19:06:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Bug is a result of Assert() - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 1082 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:06:50] <exec> 08└─Lots of asserts in the code should not be a problem (except it might impede reading the code). Asserts should catch errors during development, and be removed from the release code by the compiler. FWIW, I often have lots of asserts in areas of code that I think should never be reached. If they are r...
[19:07:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03hopp [2833] (Score:2) 02Re:This is why "Not Systemd" - 06Systemd Crashing Bug - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:01] <exec> 08└─It was the inclusion of systemd which made me take another look at FreeBSD for our systems. We left FreeBSD when the whole 4-5 upgrade debacle happened and happily returned to FreeBSD when systemd became the standard. bhyve is actually a pretty nice way to layer vm over the zfs and upgrades and audi...
[19:07:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:why? - 0650% of Parents Knowingly Text Their Teens While Teens Are Driving - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:41] <exec> 08└─Poor expectations is right. However, most 'kids' do what their parents expect of them. You expect your kids to not do that. There is a set of people out there that have not thought it through or think 'wont happen to my kid'. Older people are better about setting expectations. Younger people want to...
[19:08:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:ineffective & false advertizing - 06US Subpoena Tests Privacy Promise of Encrypted Messaging App - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:32] <exec> 08└─he said the marketing was deceptive, you jackass. the appropriate response to his post is "thank you for the info".
[19:08:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nothing is safe by your standard - 06US Subpoena Tests Privacy Promise of Encrypted Messaging App - 1010 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:35] <exec> 08└─another fine example of the whining people do wh 7613 en you bring up inconvenient truths. they attack the messenger and defend their masters. as aldous huxley said in the interview at berkely before he croaked, "people can be made to quite enjoy their servitude" or some such shit. the OP was simply...
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[20:01:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03tynin [2013] (Score:2) 02Anxious... - 06Hurricane Matthew Heading for Florida, Carolinas - 691 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:01:52] <exec> 08└─I'm about done clearing my yard and putting up my steel window shutters. The storm is only 120 mph now, but is expected to strengthen before it starts slamming into south Florida tomorrow afternoon. I can't wait to leave Florida. At least when it hits South Carolina on ~Friday, they will be sleeping...
[20:01:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02why does everyone retire to florida - 06Hurricane Matthew Heading for Florida, Carolinas - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:01:54] <exec> 08└─is there some reason everyone retires to florida, only to have to endure things like this every 2-3 years? it seems like if i could live anywhere when I retire (haha) i'd want to live somewhere with fewer unmitigated natural disasters.
[20:02:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Have any Soylentils noticed any effect ... - 06Atlantic Ocean's Slowing Current Flow Linked to Changes in Southern Hemisphere - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:04] <exec> 08└─Yes, but we, being soylentils, were expected to have noticed this before it appeared here. Let me check my private current meters in the Atlantic and get back to you.
[20:02:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Politics - 06Atlantic Ocean's Slowing Current Flow Linked to Changes in Southern Hemisphere - 563 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:10] <exec> 08└─Many are refugees. A massive amount are immigrants looking for a better life, away from bad not not life-threatening situations. I'm sure you realize that UKIP, Brexit and friends are fueled by the "native" masses angry at the legal Polish and East-European influx which happened before the 2008 cris...
[20:02:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Politics - 06Atlantic Ocean's Slowing Current Flow Linked to Changes in Southern Hemisphere - 817 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:12] <exec> 08└─Eyeballing an elevation histogram [britannica.com], it looks like even complete loss of the ice caps, which only results in a 100 meter rise of sea level, is about 10% loss of existing land area which is not great, but still leaves a massive amount of backyard available for refugees. When you add in...
[20:02:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Politics - 06Atlantic Ocean's Slowing Current Flow Linked to Changes in Southern Hemisphere - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:14] <exec> 08└─Burn in hell you fucking idiot. You deserve to die when your such a denialist. Of course you would upend reality itself just so you can have a world in which human beings aren't responsible for our environment. Piece of shit.
[20:02:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Effect - 06Atlantic Ocean's Slowing Current Flow Linked to Changes in Southern Hemisphere - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:19] <exec> 08└─There's a big glacier coming at me fast from Dartmoor! Bye everybody! - James Lovelock
[20:02:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:What Happens To ... - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:40] <exec> 08└─victomers.
[20:02:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Username [4557] (Score:2) 02Re:What Happens To ... - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:42] <exec> 08└─No, they’ll most likely skip verification after the first transaction. They’d probably only use it when you change shipping/payment info or if their anti-fraud software flags you. This will only be a temp measure. Eventually how the key/hash is made will become public and it will be as useless a...
[20:02:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03archfeld [4650] (Score:2) 02Re:What Happens To ... - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 828 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:44] <exec> 08└─I don't have issues for saved cards like with Amazon, I can easily re-enter the CCV digits each time, but what I question is how is this going to affect things like my DirecTV auto payment setup that runs at a set time each month WITHOUT my initiation ? Under the current setup I don't see this funct...
[20:02:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:What Happens To ... - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:47] <exec> 08└─For people like you, if there's certain spots you regularly go to at certain times of the year, would it make sense to have multiple credit cards, and only use certain cards at certain locations? I know it'd be a bit of a pain, but that might solve the problems with constantly flagging fraud-detecti...
[20:02:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What Happens To ... - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:49] <exec> 08└─Do I have to enter the new CCV every time I make a purchase?
[20:03:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:And what will be the U.S. latency? - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:03:01] <exec> 08└─Probably about 20 years, given how long it took the US to get the chip-and-pin cards.
[20:03:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03D2 [5107] (Score:1) 02Re:One kind of fraud - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:03:04] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I laughed at 'change everything about fraud' . Clickbait or laziness.
[20:03:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Bar/restaurant fraud and the CSC number - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 840 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:03:06] <exec> 08└─I had an idea about this: if the big problem is that insiders at bars and restaurants are taking photos of your card and your CSC number when you go out to eat, maybe it'd make sense to simple scratch off the CSC number on your card, so that no one who handles the card will know what it is. Obviousl...
[20:03:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Press release - 06Orbital ATK Launch Set for Oct. 13, Nearly Two Years After Launch Failure - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:03:19] <exec> 08└─Not the first hurricane to ever hit Kerbal I mean Kennedy Space Center, and it won't be the last.
[20:04:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:Not impressed - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:04:19] <exec> 08└─I was hoping we'd see more of Þórunn [wikia.com].
[20:04:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Comparison inappropriate - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 1894 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:04:46] <exec> 08└─Electing Trump is basically just removing the middlemen between a tiny number of very rich people and the politicians that work for them. That sounds exactly like Hillary too. You seem to be operating in ignorance of a couple of vitally important facts: 1. Donald Trump has helped to bankroll past Cl...
[20:04:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Comparison inappropriate - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:04:56] <exec> 08└─and with issues like immigration to the fore, and an unpleasant nationalistic feel, is very much a pro-establishment view
[20:05:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Operation Fast and Furious - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:05:30] <exec> 08└─I assume you refer to Operation Fast and Furious [legalinsurrection.com], wherein gun control agencies knowingly funneled US-made firearms to Mexican cartel criminals in the hopes that said firearms would be used in crimes, crimes which in turn would be used to push for more illegal US gun control l...
[20:13:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:huh? - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:12] <exec> 08└─This is why I say don't join a religion: just believe what you think is right and don't let others tell you what is right...thanks way, if they are wrong or the become corrupt, you don't have to reaffirm your beliefs etc. Just be a good person, commune with God by yourself and HE will tell you what...
[20:13:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Transparency - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:16] <exec> 08└─Which pope? :) https://en.m.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
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[21:01:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Anxious... - 06Hurricane Matthew Heading for Florida, Carolinas - 505 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:01:51] <exec> 08└─I'm still wondering why US houses don't have permanent wood shutters, as can be found in so many European countries? Cold? Here's an extra inch of wood between you and the rain and snow. Enjoy heating savings too. Hot? Here's an extra inch of wood to keep the sun and heat out. Hurricane? Your window...
[21:01:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03tynin [2013] (Score:2) 02Re:Anxious... - 06Hurricane Matthew Heading for Florida, Carolinas - 911 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:01:52] <exec> 08└─I can't say I know on the wood shutters. Everyone around me seems to do the last minute mad dash to Home Depot to buy a couple hundred dollars worth of plywood to throw up at the last minute. That said, it seems almost all of the houses made in the 50's and 60's all come with metal awnings that can...
[21:01:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03justinb_76 [4362] (Score:1) 02Re:Anxious... - 06Hurricane Matthew Heading for Florida, Carolinas - 544 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:01:54] <exec> 08└─Hampton Roads, VA here - latest update looks like it'll avoid our area completely :) just out of curiosity, what window shutters did you go with? the one time I got around to making some out of plywood was for Irene, and it ended up being a waste of time - the storm we got a month afterwards did sig...
[21:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:Have any Soylentils noticed any effect ... - 06Atlantic Ocean's Slowing Current Flow Linked to Changes in Southern Hemisphere - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:05] <exec> 08└─I'd check mine, but I never got around to installing them. The Atlantic Ocean is a little far from my mother's basement^w^w secret underground command center and my drone doesn't quite have the range yet. I blame systemd.
[21:02:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Politics - 06Atlantic Ocean's Slowing Current Flow Linked to Changes in Southern Hemisphere - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:13] <exec> 08└─Burn in hell you fucking idiot. You deserve to die when your such a denialist.
[21:02:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Politics - 06Atlantic Ocean's Slowing Current Flow Linked to Changes in Southern Hemisphere - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:15] <exec> 08└─However, in both cases the correct response to "fixing" immigration and refugees from flooding into your country is to care about the country they were fleeing.
[21:02:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:2) 02Re:Politics - 06Atlantic Ocean's Slowing Current Flow Linked to Changes in Southern Hemisphere - 729 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:18] <exec> 08└─This kind of change is why the term has been Climate Change for decades. The early model predicted higher average global temperatures. Afterward they started modeling what would happen at smaller scales and found that some places would experience large warming, such as the poles, while others may ex...
[21:02:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Politics - 06Atlantic Ocean's Slowing Current Flow Linked to Changes in Southern Hemisphere - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:20] <exec> 08└─You're an idiot. I live in Fairbanks Alaska, much farther N. than London. All glasiers are melting faster now than ever before. Only in a dream will you find glaciers burying england.
[21:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Effect - 06Atlantic Ocean's Slowing Current Flow Linked to Changes in Southern Hemisphere - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:26] <exec> 08└─It was snowing outside my window yesterday so no global warming here!
[21:02:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Old tech - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:37] <exec> 08└─The three digits on the back of this card will change, every hour, for three years. And after they change, the previous three digits are essentially worthless,
[21:02:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Old tech - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:40] <exec> 08└─I live in a nice area (aka they like to spam the F out of us) and my supermarket has spammy video displays already. The future is gonna be ugly.
[21:02:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Like RSA cards? - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 694 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:45] <exec> 08└─I'd imagine why they don't change the cards like that is due to collisions. How can you be sure with that many transactions that I was truly meant to be billed (and authenticated) at that time? Those 16 digits are effectively the unique customer ID. We would need to move to 128 bit card numbers to r...
[21:02:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:What Happens To ... - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 587 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:50] <exec> 08└─Amazon and huge trusted online retailers will get an exception so that once they have validated your account once they can just hold your base number and bill to it so long as it is done on a realtime linkup with the creditcard/issuing bank and they ship to your registered address. So will everyone...
[21:02:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:What Happens To ... - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 445 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:57] <exec> 08└─Actually, if they built it right they will publish how the numbers are made. Good cryptosystems survive disclosure of the details. The card will have a secret and it will know the time, hashing those along with your card number will yield the displayed value. Unless you can find a way to make the ca...
[21:03:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:Powered by lithium battery - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:03:12] <exec> 08└─I want to try one of these cards in a microwave. Someone's microwave other than my own, and from a safe distance, of course. ;-)
[21:04:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:Authentication vs. Encryption - 06Johnson & Johnson Issues Security Warning About Insulin Pump - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:04:07] <exec> 08└─Tree words: Public key Encryption. It can be used to authenticate, without encrypting the actual data by encrypting a secure hash of the data. Useful if you are prohibited by law from encrypting the pay-load.
[21:04:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:Not impressed - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:04:25] <exec> 08└─Instant Runoff and Condorcet voting solve this problem at the cost of /increasing information overload/.
[21:04:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03 (Score:2) 02Re:Comparison inappropriate - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 706 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:04:52] <exec> 08└─Well, at least I’m not too big of an idiot to assume the establishment is purely presidential. Still, Clinton was a pot smoking hippie with a tree hugger VP, and he beat out a sitting republican president. It also was the start of the PC culture. By the 90s all schools were completely ran by liber...
[21:04:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:Comparison inappropriate - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 125 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:04:58] <exec> 08└─Stupid, yes; selfish, yes; wealthy, yes; silver spoon, yes; exploitative, yes; establishment, definitely not. That's Hillary.
[21:05:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Comparison inappropriate - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:05:02] <exec> 08└─Electing Trump is basically just removing the middlemen between a tiny number of very rich people and the politicians that work for them. That sounds exactly like Hillary too.
[21:05:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Comparison inappropriate - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:05:13] <exec> 08└─Brexit was a right wing movement, UKIP were a breakaway party from the Conservatives, and with issues like immigration to the fore, and an unpleasant nationalistic feel, is very much a pro-establishment view.
[21:05:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:It's ocean is buried much deeper - 06Evidence Found for Subsurface Ocean on Saturn's Moon Dione - 544 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:05:27] <exec> 08└─Journalists these days hit spell check a 1ff6 nd call it a day, probably ignoring the grammatical hints. Proofreaders, too, seem to have gone the way of the dodo. Curiously enough if you ever read archival newspaper articles older than a hundred years ago, you find they were as fraught with spelling...
[21:05:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix 1000 666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Panspermia - 06Evidence Found for Subsurface Ocean on Saturn's Moon Dione - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:05:32] <exec> 08└─I like that idea. It's also possible that intelligent life has evolved on Earth before, and has long since departed, having cleaned up after themselves to make way for other intelligences to evolve here.
[21:05:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm not convinced this is legally improper - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:00] <exec> 08└─Respectfully, I must disagree with your assertion that voting can or will change anything.
[21:06:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03black6host [3827] (Score:2) 02Re:Merissa Mayer, failure - 06Yahoo "Secretly Scanned Emails for US Authorities" - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:47] <exec> 08└─I can see a Fiorina/Mayer ticket in the future folks! :)
[21:06:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Merissa Mayer, failure - 06Yahoo "Secretly Scanned Emails for US Authorities" - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:48] <exec> 08└─I agree. It's a shame she isn't running for president.
[21:07:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:The Intercept's slightly more blunt reaction - 06Yahoo "Secretly Scanned Emails for US Authorities" - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:10] <exec> 08└─and Mayer says, “We’ve worked hard over the years to earn our users’ trust and we fight hard to preserve it.”
[21:10:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Can't we just drone this guy?" - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:15] <exec> 08└─Too bad that your opinion (the one that says that Clinton murdered/murders people) isn't backed up by facts... If you could nail the part where you actually have data or evidence, you may be able to one day make a compelling case...
[21:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Can't we just drone this guy?" - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:21] <exec> 08└─Back in my day "cybering" meant something wholly different
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[22:01:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02tACS - 06Zapping Your Brain may Reduce Depression, Ease Pain - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:01:37] <exec> 08└─Soylentils? Ready to cut that electrical cord, plug it into the wall and stick it in your ear?
[22:01:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:tACS - 06Zapping Your Brain may Reduce Depression, Ease Pain - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:01:38] <exec> 08└─In other news, this article reminded me to submit this: https://www.washingtonpost.com [washingtonpost.com] http://archpsyc.jamanetwork.com [jamanetwork.com]
[22:01:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Red flag - 06Zapping Your Brain may Reduce Depression, Ease Pain - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:01:40] <exec> 08└─> to treat everything from depression to schizophrenia Yup, it's bogus... On the other hand, if Darwin fans want to zap their own brain with DYI devices, go ahead! Need my address for your will? Leave it in a separate building, or at least a fireproof safe.
[22:01:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Red flag - 06Zapping Your Brain may Reduce Depression, Ease Pain - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:01:42] <exec> 08└─zap their own brain with DYI devices
[22:01:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03g2 In The Desert [3773] (Score:1) 02A joke, right? - 06Zapping Your Brain may Reduce Depression, Ease Pain - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:01:45] <exec> 08└─This is nothing but warmed over Electro Shock Therapy from the 50's. Think Cuckoo's Nest. Is there really any scientific data suggesting the nut jobs welding probes in the 50's were on the right track?
[22:01:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02great idea - 06Zapping Your Brain may Reduce Depression, Ease Pain - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:01:47] <exec> 08└─Society is headed straight towards the technocratic byzantine polluted distopia in the film Brazil? no prob! zap your brain so you will be happier about it. If this procedure works, it will be made mandatory. (no not by decree, by advertisement. You know, the same way you have been assigned your cel...
[22:01:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Anxious... - 06Hurricane Matthew Heading for Florida, Carolinas - 856 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:01:58] <exec> 08└─I've traveled some and you'll see American houses made of stucco without even any sheathing just the plaster stuff over studs and maybe some insulation and then drywall on the inside maybe a vapor barrier, especially in bubble era construction, so there's no point protecting the windows when the win...
[22:02:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward 120f (Score:0) 02Re:why does everyone retire to florida - 06Hurricane Matthew Heading for Florida, Carolinas - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:02] <exec> 08└─Snow. Look some people like it. Others well not so much. They would rather deal with their house going sideways than shovel on more inch of snow. What I have seen is some people move their thinking 'yeah no more snow' then realize they hate bugs and humidity more and move right back 4-5 years later.
[22:02:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:why does everyone retire to florida - 06Hurricane Matthew Heading for Florida, Carolinas - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:05] <exec> 08└─But almost every place has weather risk: North: massive snow & hail storms Middle: tornadoes West: earthquakes, tsunami's, jerk tech ceo's Everywhere: flooding
[22:02:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:why does everyone retire to florida - 06Hurricane Matthew Heading for Florida, Carolinas - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:07] <exec> 08└─Hurricanes aren't real because the Earth is flat and not spinning. Duh. The Coriolis Effect is media propaganda to support the Round Earth Hoax.
[22:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Politics - 06Atlantic Ocean's Slowing Current Flow Linked to Changes in Southern Hemisphere - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:25] <exec> 08└─It's worth noting here that the US has a considerable ability to absorb refugees (even if the more delicate European countries do not)
[22:02:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:Effect - 06Atlantic Ocean's Slowing Current Flow Linked to Changes in Southern Hemisphere - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:35] <exec> 08└─Are you sure that's not the remnants of melted glaciers and polar ice caps? Those thing don't just disappear.
[22:02:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Old tech - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:50] <exec> 08└─I have faith in the hacking community and you know that'll be built to traditional infosec security standards so about 5 minutes after they deploy your talking cereal boxes they'll be powned and displaying 4chan memes to little old ladies. I kinda like that idea.
[22:02:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Old tech - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 1234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:53] <exec> 08└─I have no comment on the aesthetics of that other than I hope I can sleep at night now, but yeah a D cell should run it until it naturally rust thru and leaks, probably five years. I suppose the aesthetics could be cute or could be Lovecraftian, so it depends a bit. In the old days you could guess a...
[22:02:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Old tech - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:56] <exec> 08└─Is it actually eInk? It looked like LCD to me. TFA originally said LED, and corrected to LCD. But eInk would be interesting for an application like this.
[22:03:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Like RSA cards? - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 569 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:03:01] <exec> 08└─If half of the people on the planet have a card, then 19 decimal digits is almost 3 billion combinations each, making collision odds much worse than any lottery. Given a geo-based authentication system (call before you travel to Nigeria), or adding the expiration date, or a timeout, you'll be in no-...
[22:03:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:What Happens To ... - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:03:10] <exec> 08└─Maybe, if you're lucky, they might store your CC encrypted or even offline,
[22:03:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] 02Bar/restaurant fraud and the CSC number - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 840 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:03:33] <exec> 08└─I had an idea about this: if the big problem is that insiders at bars and restaurants are taking photos of your card and your CSC number when you go out to eat, maybe it'd make sense to simple scratch off the CSC number on your card, so that no one who handles the card will know what it is. Obviousl...
[22:03:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03fubari [4551] (Score:1) 02Re:Bar/restaurant fraud and the CSC number - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 572 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:03:34] <exec> 08└─My first thought is "Why didn't I think of that?" :-) My second thought is I don't know if I'm sufficiently paranoid - maybe if I travel to high tourist areas or something, but skimming hasn't been a problem for me (data breaches [krebsonsecurity.com] seem to impact me more). My only CSC story (off...
[22:03:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Press release - 06Orbital ATK Launch Set for Oct. 13, Nearly Two Years After Launch Failure - 1159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:03:49] <exec> 08└─Well, yeah, but like I wrote the shocker is its still gonna be raining from the Hurricane on Monday 3 days before the launch. I wouldn't sweat a launch scheduled in November or even later in October, but launching the first sunny day after a hurricane goes thru seems a bit optimistic. Sure maybe a b...
[22:05:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Webweasel [567] 02Re:Comparison inappropriate - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 584 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:05:03] <exec> 08└─I'd like to write you a polite reply about why I did vote to leave. I could mention stuff like the Lisbon treaty and give solid reasons for my vote. However, due to the insult in your post its quite clear that it would not have been possible to debate you on this subject. Your a zealot about the top...
[22:05:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Comparison inappropriate - 06Iceland's Pirates Head for Power on Wave of Public Anger - 464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:05:11] <exec> 08└─It's too bad about that GOP platform, though. Also too bad about the alt-right. I really hope the comments I've read here about tobacco causing cancer and cannabis having medical uses being a PC thing are just trolling, but I haven't seen anybody who might be "with" the alt-right correct those. What...
[22:05:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's ocean is buried much deeper - 06Evidence Found for Subsurface Ocean on Saturn's Moon Dione - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:05:47] <exec> 08└─A logical race would use a phonetics-only language. Puny humans!
[22:05:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Panspermia - 06Evidence Found for Subsurface Ocean on Saturn's Moon Dione - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:05:50] <exec> 08└─It's more like: who can stop humans from taking advantage of the solar system's abundant resources and spreading the human race further than Earth generally? The U.S. or U.N.? Maybe initially, but not for too long.
[22:05:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not The Scientific Method - 06Evidence Found for Subsurface Ocean on Saturn's Moon Dione - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:05:56] <exec> 08└─You are arguing over the price of beans with a dude who denies the existence of beans.
[22:06:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03J053 [3532] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm not convinced this is legally improper - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:06:22] <exec> 08└─And that's because something like 60% of eligible voters don't fucking bother to vote. Every Member of Congress and/or Senator could be replaced in any election year if people would just get off their asses and go vote for someone else.
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[23:01:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02That will work - 06Mastercard Will Roll Out Pay-by-Selfie Across Europe - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:36] <exec> 08└─Remind me again how your phone recognizes the difference between taking a picture of you and taking a picture of a picture of you.
[23:01:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02encouragement? - 06Mastercard Will Roll Out Pay-by-Selfie Across Europe - 393 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:38] <exec> 08└─one one hand, people who take "selfies" don't need any encouragement on the other, MasterCard might now appeal to that sort of person. Will this mean more selfie-taking Mastercard customers, and more people who don't like those sort of people boycotting Mastercard? http://theoatmeal.com
[23:01:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Red flag - 06Zapping Your Brain may Reduce Depression, Ease Pain - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:50] <exec> 08└─if Darwin fans want to zap their own brain...
[23:01:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:A joke, right? - 06Zapping Your Brain may Reduce Depression, Ease Pain - 1000 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:52] <exec> 08└─There may be [wikipedia.org]. A meta-analysis on the effectiveness of ECT in unipolar and bipolar depression was conducted in 2012. Results indicated that although patients with unipolar depression and bipolar depression responded to other medical treatments very differently, both groups responded...
[23:01:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:A joke, right? - 06Zapping Your Brain may Reduce Depression, Ease Pain - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:54] <exec> 08└─Also, ECT unfortunately can't cure heterosexuality, either, regardless of what religious people wish it did.
[23:01:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:A joke, right? - 06Zapping Your Brain may Reduce Depression, Ease Pain - 501 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:57] <exec> 08└─Heteronormative Crusader [tvtropes.org] In fiction, the wars on homosexuality and sadomasochism is more and more often played for laughs or as a way of highlighting how unsympathetic the antagonist is. (On the other hand, the Heteronormative Crusader might be the hero - or an antihero at worst - if...
[23:01:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02First cupping and now this... - 06Zapping Your Brain may Reduce Depression, Ease Pain - 654 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:02:00] <exec> 08└─Some people seem to have a penchant for trying anything that goes against the grain of medical science. If I were to hazard a guess it would be that even the best treatments we have for the aforementioned disorders aren't perfect and don't always work, which cultivates a a deep mistrust of conventio...
[23:02:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Funny) 02Cord-cutting - 06Zapping Your Brain may Reduce Depression, Ease Pain - 679 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:02:02] <exec> 08└─I prefer to use Energizer(tm) batteries, because they just keep going and going. But as to the snarky "criticism" by people who (((know))) things, like doctors and scientists, they just do not know what they are talking about. You see, DC current, because it is telluric or Gaia-based, is much better...
[23:02:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Anxious... - 06Hurricane Matthew Heading for Florida, Carolinas - 615 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:13] <exec> 08└─So, Matthew doesn't seem to be Andrew, but I visited friends in Perrine after Andrew, and saw CBS block walls that were penetrated by the neighbors' clay barrel tiles that blew off their roof. This was the same neighborhood where the hurricane strapping on the roof joists held, but the joists themse...
[23:02:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Anxious... - 06Hurricane Matthew Heading for Florida, Carolinas - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:16] <exec> 08└─I'm still wondering why US houses are built of paper, woodchips and spit. Meanwhile in Europe, they're putting up 50cm thick masonry walls...
[23:02:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Anxious... - 06Hurricane Matthew Heading for Florida, Carolinas - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:20] <exec> 08└─Metal is easier to deal with, but I went with 3/4" plywood, cut into 2' wide sections... that was fine when I did it (age 25), by the time I sold that house (age 37) those suckers were heavy and hard to maneuver into place.
[23:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:why does everyone retire to florida - 06Hurricane Matthew Heading for Florida, Carolinas - 544 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:26] <exec> 08└─Well, the options seem to be: North, cold, unpopular. California, earthquakes, expensive. Hawaii, expensive, isolated. Other countries, culturally challenging, far to visit the kids. Midwest, boring, tornadoes. Mountains, cold, more popular than simple "North." Pacific Northwest, wet. Florida has tw...
[23:02:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Politics - 06Atlantic Ocean's Slowing Current Flow Linked to Changes in Southern Hemisphere - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:46] <exec> 08└─Well lets be honest, a lot of the problems stem from greedy interests trying to control the black gold. The West did their best to undermine legitimate governments and install dictators that would give them what they wanted. Sure there are a lot of other problems, but Western interference has never...
[23:03:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02shorter name - 06This Card is Being Rolled Out by French Banks to Eliminate Fraud - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:26] <exec> 08└─SELECT COUNT (name) FROM sheeple WHERE name IS YOU 1 Just kidding, in reality you would need to terminate the query with a semicolon.
[23:06:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Hopefully - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:24] <exec> 08└─You do not target ethnic groups. You do not target Italians. You target those Italians that want to enter YOUR OWN country. Not because they are Italians. Because they want to stay in YOUR OWN country. The indisputable fact that racism is used to reduce people to mindless conformism does not prevent...
[23:06:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Disarming the public - 06Federal Agents Enlisted Local Police to Scan License Plates at Gun Shows - 575 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:06:59] <exec> 08└─The ACLU is a major-mover in a huge conspiracy to disarm the public. http://www.atg.wa.gov [wa.gov] Back in the late-1990s, it was rumored that, in WA state, Japanese Military Police would be going door-to-door, conf...
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