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[00:01:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Curious about the definition of real time - 06Intel and Luxottica Launch "Radar Pace" Smartglasses - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:01:38] <exec> 08└─So do the glasses crunch the data themselves? Or do they have to connect to "the cloud"? I assume they crunch data on the device since people won't want to have their phones on them and who would buy these if they required a monthly connection fee. However, the article is quite short on details... A...
[00:01:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03FunkyLich [4689] (Score:1) 02Re:Curious about the definition of real time - 06Intel and Luxottica Launch "Radar Pace" Smartglasses - 469 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:01:39] <exec> 08└─What do you mean that people won't want to have their phones on them? More and more I see people running around with a a belt of a sort where their phone is and there's connected either earphones or some sort of armband collecting whatever data about the body they think it is useful to know. And rec...
[00:01:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Curious about the definition of real time - 06Intel and Luxottica Launch "Radar Pace" Smartglasses - 1127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:01:41] <exec> 08└─Stories set in the Cloud in which Things Went Wrong tended to start with people losing or forgetting or deliberately leaving behind their phone. It was a conventional opening, the equivalent of straying off the path in the wild woods in one age, or a car breaking down at night on a lonely road in an...
[00:01:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03FunkyLich [4689] (Score:1) 02Re:Curious about the definition of real time - 06Intel and Luxottica Launch "Radar Pace" Smartglasses - 355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:01:43] <exec> 08└─Cool. So then I want these smart-glasses definitely to pair up with my phone and the cloud. I'll also take a modified vibrating version of that ring thing you mention. I have this idea of teaching Siri how to dress naughty and parade in front of me before treating my Pride with outmost care. I'll th...
[00:01:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03fubari [4551] (Score:1) 02Re:Or cut back on Sugur - 06Adaptation to Food Deprivation as a Clue for Treating Metabolic Diseases - 802 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:01:57] <exec> 08└─Julian, +1 informative. I found the fine article to be pretty interesting. Seems like they found an interplay of the proteins modulating gene expressions. Very interested to see what comes out of this and metformin research under way now. For example... World’s first anti-ageing drug could see hum...
[00:02:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Blame the Victim - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:02:16] <exec> 08└─It's not just that, though. Ignorance causes far more trouble than just not thinking, and you can't blame ignorance on the ignorant. You and I may need no AV, but most people I know IRL think computers are magic.
[00:02:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:02:26] <exec> 08└─A good lock on your home's front door is better than a poor lock. It doesn't matter, they have crowbars. Your locks will be safe, but not your door or belongings; that's how burglars broke into my house. Besides, what house has no windows?
[00:02:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 1302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:02:30] <exec> 08└─Sigh...haven't actually checked out those "security studies" have you? Protip: Windows hasn't had autorun since it was patched out of Windows XP. The way they infect the system, which just FYI works just as well on Linux and MacOS, is to exploit the user using the classic dancing bunnies [codinghorr...
[00:02:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:02:39] <exec> 08└─I agree with you, but people don't understand how this stuff works. If the system were designed correctly you could plug in a random USB stick or click a link in an email. The trouble is that the system's designers aren't up to the task, or are unwilling to tackle it.
[00:03:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:There's a lot of truth to this. - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:03:04] <exec> 08└─Arik never said anything about formatting/images/videos, just that most browsers and websites have huge vulnerabilities because very little attention was paid to security. It isn't about the good old days, its about security.
[00:03:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:There's a lot of truth to this. - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:03:08] <exec> 08└─pine, mutt, outlook, and every other major email client have each had open-email-and-get-pwned bugs. More in outlook (see: hooking system explorer renderer in old versions?!) but not zero in any.
[00:03:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:There Is None - 06Rosetta Spacecraft Sends its Final Images of 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:03:22] <exec> 08└─Our solar system is not random; it's built by the Great Troll.
[00:03:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:I'd like to see more of this - 06Reykjavik Turns Off Lights for Clearer View of Aurora - 610 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:03:56] <exec> 08└─Try Las Vegas for awhile. If there is cloud cover at night we have a "second day". It's interesting to try to find a place in Las Vegas in the middle of the night where you can't see anything. Pretty rare find. If there is a full moon, we can't tell the difference either. Plus the Luxor is probably...
[00:04:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Re:Chocolate - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:04:14] <exec> 08└─Is mercantilism, specifically in terms of attempting to marshal national production towards servicing national needs, due for a comeback?
[00:04:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why it's hard to take the warmists seriously - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:04:46] <exec> 08└─Despite early panicked forecasts, hurricanes haven't worsened, tornados are not more frequent, droughts and floods continue to happen much as they have done historically.
[00:05:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Keynes - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:05:24] <exec> 08└─Exactly. There are no bullshit jobs except the ones created simply to keep people employed; Keynesian jobs. If you're working in today's America and not working for the government it's because someone finds very real value in paying you to do so.
[00:05:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Before Keynes... - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:05:29] <exec> 08└─The choice was clear, either get rid of the abundance that caused the low prices and inject money into the system to get it going again, or get rid of the thing that was keeping us from this high-production, low-labor world, our scarcity-based economy.
[00:06:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:2) 02Re:moved to video, not canceled - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:06:21] <exec> 08└─> "I guess they figure that Assange would be physically at risk outside like that." Oh, come on. Custard pies don't hurt that much, even if they leave the tinfoil tray on.
[00:06:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Re:October surprise for Donald J. Trump? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:06:46] <exec> 08└─Just pointing out that while Christians tromp around spouting "all Muslims are evil because their holy book endorses killing infidels", the Christian religion, if it were to be believed, calls for the same.
[00:08:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Re:Which Just Goes To Show... - 06US Hands Internet Control To ICANN - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:08:09] <exec> 08└─not only is Ted Cruz widely disliked, he's also as dumb as a box of rocks.
[00:10:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Everyone mispells that bank's name. - 06Deutsche Bank Nearing Multi-Billion Dollar Settlement with U.S. Dept. of Justice - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:10:15] <exec> 08└─It's Douche Bank.
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[01:01:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02It's not surprising - 06One of the Data Recorders from the Sept. 29th Hoboken Train Crash Didn't Work - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:01:32] <exec> 08└─In the race to the bottom that greedy capitalism mandates, America has been so busy looking for cheaper ways to do things that it has forgotten why they were necessary in the first place. System designed by the cheapest engineer, built, installed, maintained and operated by the cheapest possible lab...
[01:01:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Who screwed up? - 06One of the Data Recorders from the Sept. 29th Hoboken Train Crash Didn't Work - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:01:33] <exec> 08└─My Smooth Jazz station has a What's Playing Now page. [saddlebackstream.com] It's currently in its 4th day without any updates. (Apparently, it's not part of anyone's job description to make sure it's still working.) Just as with data backups, if you never actually *check* what you're doing, you sho...
[01:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:02:25] <exec> 08└─Right. Certain practices are too dangerous to enable, but you can never completely secure against the end user. And if you lock things down too much people hack around it.
[01:02:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 520 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:02:28] <exec> 08└─A lot of this has to do with expected use and visibility. Usb disks are usually used to transfer files between computers, so it makes no sense to enable execution from there. Likewise email attachments should have to be downloaded manually before manual execution. And documents shouldn't ever be exe...
[01:02:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:USB why? - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 872 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:02:50] <exec> 08└─We are already in a post scarcity world for most countries, or could be if we made decisions along that vein. However, greed has kept us locked into a class system. The people at the top don't want anything to change, and the people that want to BE at the top don't want it to change either. They dre...
[01:02:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:USB why? - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:02:51] <exec> 08└─Nah, as long as human ingenuity is valuable there will be no post-scarcity world. Nothing will change. Since the first currency was invented, it was never about the resources and always about human ingenuity.
[01:02:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:USB why? - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 484 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:02:54] <exec> 08└─My employees can listen to music if they want to. They can even spend an hour (representing an astounding 1/2080 of a work year) putting together their playlist, because I know that if we have a looming project deadline that we'll all put in the extra time to make sure it gets done correctly and on...
[01:02:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:USB why? - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:02:56] <exec> 08└─Our relationship is built on a foundation of mutual trust and respect.
[01:03:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score:1) 02Re:Waaaaanker - 06Mirai IoT Botnet Source Code Released - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:03:33] <exec> 08└─The problem I have with all the articles, is that I could not find a list of devices (beyond some Chinese Security camera) that are susceptible to this particular attack.
[01:04:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:wheat/hops, etc. - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:04:10] <exec> 08└─No, no. Canada may get much of it's water from melting snowpack, but it doesn't get rain from that. Rain generally comes from clouds sourced in evaporation from the oceans.
[01:04:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Boo - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:04:49] <exec> 08└─HILLARY!!!1!! (Scared ya, didn't I?)
[01:05:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:Keynes - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 586 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:05:10] <exec> 08└─Except that by those standards, Milton Friedman, in the running for most important economist of the 20th century, was a complete nutter: Keynes was a great economist. In every discipline, progress comes from people who make hypotheses, most of which turn out to be wrong, but all of which ultimately...
[01:06:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02How did Trump get mindshare? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 685 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:06:44] <exec> 08└─Trump [...] is high-status because of the money and political connectio 7336 ns he inherited. "Many have asked who's to blame for Donald Trump and I'll tell you who. He's sitting right there, that guy, Mark Burnett", said Jimmy Kimmel at the 2016 Emmys. "Thanks to Mark Burnett we don't have to watch...
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[02:01:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not surprising - 06One of the Data Recorders from the Sept. 29th Hoboken Train Crash Didn't Work - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:40] <exec> 08└─Yep. When I hear that the device was sitting there for 20 years, I immediately think of how much money was saved/stolen by c-suites that refused to service or replace the device. It's not just exploited labor, but the illusion of workplace safety while they're being exploited. Perhaps one day when w...
[02:01:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Who screwed up? - 06One of the Data Recorders from the Sept. 29th Hoboken Train Crash Didn't Work - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:43] <exec> 08└─KSBR is a non-commercial radio station in Mission Viejo, California, broadcasting to the Orange County, California, area on 88.5 FM.
[02:02:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Expands the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis... - 06Adaptation to Food Deprivation as a Clue for Treating Metabolic Diseases - 1003 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:02:10] <exec> 08└─I think the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis not directly relating to AMPK or fatty acids led to conflicting conclusions regarding dieting from the practitioners (athletes & bodybuilders mostly) and the theorists (diabetes & cardiology researchers and some PE people) and training (high intensity...
[02:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:Blame the Victim - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:25] <exec> 08└─People turn off their critical thinking skills if they think the anti-virus is there to catch them.
[02:02:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 569 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:40] <exec> 08└─I was trying to point out that even with execution from USB drives disabled your computer can still be susceptible to malicious drives that simply pretend to be keyboards and type commands in. There is a decision to be made here: we cannot simultaneously have universal ports, permissionless keyboard...
[02:03:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Solar - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:03:03] <exec> 08└─Solar and renewables are chump change compared to nuclear power. It just sucks that our current nuke plants use so little of their fuel. (If 95% of the fuel was used up, there would be no waste problem).
[02:03:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03SecurityGuy [1453] (Score:2) 02Re:USB why? - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 599 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:03:07] <exec> 08└─If you have shitstain employees who spend an hour creating a playlist on company time, then their listening to music isn't the problem. Goofing off on company time is the problem. Personally, I listen to music at work when I need more focus than I can get without. Sure, I could focus even better in...
[02:03:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Waaaaanker - 06Mirai IoT Botnet Source Code Released - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:03:41] <exec> 08└─HiSilicon sounds familiar... oh yeah, they make ARM SoCs, including 8-cores: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[02:04:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Huge sack of crap - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:04:55] <exec> 08└─To extend the growing season. In hot areas, greenhouses providing a shading function, in colder areas they provide a warming function, the general purpose is regulation of temperatures toward whatever is desired to grow certain crops.
[02:05:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03quintessence [6227] (Score:2) 02Re:In defense of middle managers - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 1581 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:05:54] <exec> 08└─Middle manager I see? You are under the mistaken impression organization scales infinitely. It does not, and even the law you quote states: "Furthermore, Metcalfe’s law assumes that the value of each node n is of equal benefit. If this is not the case, for example because the one fax machines serv...
[02:11:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:2) 02Re:context... - 06Want to Appear Attractive? Hang Around with an Ugly Friend. - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:11:12] <exec> 08└─Going to need a 12 pack [youtube.com], and a paper bag [wordpress.com].
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[03:01:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Dr Lowe has it covered - 06 Medicine/Physiology Nobel Prize for Autophagy - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:01:34] <exec> 08└─My favorite blogger, whom for some reason I don't understand 75% of what he's talking about but still find his blog entertaining as hell, talks about it here [sciencemag.org]
[03:01:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dr Lowe has it covered - 06 Medicine/Physiology Nobel Prize for Autophagy - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:35] <exec> 08└─I'm a fan of Dr. Lao myself.
[03:01:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03SecurityGuy [1453] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not surprising - 06One of the Data Recorders from the Sept. 29th Hoboken Train Crash Didn't Work - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:46] <exec> 08└─Unless I'm missing something, the train was operated by NJ Transit, a "state-owned public transportation system" according to wikipedia. In other words, capitalism had nothing to do with it. This was a government-run operation.
[03:01:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Who screwed up? - 06One of the Data Recorders from the Sept. 29th Hoboken Train Crash Didn't Work - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:49] <exec> 08└─asshole Right back at you. As to the non-professionals, if you want the gig, do the job. (They get to put it on their resumes and it's a vanity thing on campus as well.) How difficult is it to glance at a web page once an hour and see if it's auto-updating? not anyone's job The place still has paid...
[03:01:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02This demands a prison sentance - 06One of the Data Recorders from the Sept. 29th Hoboken Train Crash Didn't Work - 697 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:01:51] <exec> 08└─I'm not joking. They have a history of safety issues. When Bad Things Happen(tm) the black box is supposed to give enough data to point the fickle finger of responsibility to the correct party. If your maintenance is so bad the bloody black box doesn't work, the NTSB needs to reach into the Cxx suit...
[03:01:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The paranoid voice - 06One of the Data Recorders from the Sept. 29th Hoboken Train Crash Didn't Work - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:54] <exec> 08└─In the most cynical of scenarios the black box didn't work on purpose. "Ehhh, blame it on poor maintenance." That said, it is quite likely that good old corporate greed played a role.
[03:01:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:This demands a prison sentance - 06One of the Data Recorders from the Sept. 29th Hoboken Train Crash Didn't Work - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:56] <exec> 08└─How bad is your maintenance that half your required black boxes fail?
[03:02:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Blame the Victim - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:41] <exec> 08└─Clicking links in untrusted email and inserting random USB sticks shouldn't lead to pwnage! We have Microsoft to blame for that latter piece of brain damage, and unsandboxed scripting on web pages for the former. Using simple passwords though is more like building your house with an easily forced do...
[03:02:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Leebert [3511] (Score:2) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:02:55] <exec> 08└─It seems to me that a lot of this could be solved just by turning autorun off in windows. Of course, it won't solve everything, but it would be a good start.
[03:03:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:USB why? - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:03:20] <exec> 08└─See if they'll accept trust and respect in lieu of wages.
[03:04:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03darnkitten [1912] (Score:2) 02Re:Light Pollution - 06Reykjavik Turns Off Lights for Clearer View of Aurora - 675 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:04:16] <exec> 08└─Not just the big cities. Our rural town just did an improvement project where vintage-appearing street lamps (with glass on top to allow upward spill) were installed in addition to replacing the old downward-directed street lights with more efficient versions. Main Street looks good, but the lights...
[03:05:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Why it's hard to take the warmists seriously - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:05:01] <exec> 08└─I bet you actually feel like you proved something don't you?
[03:05:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Keynes - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:05:38] <exec> 08└─That right there is one of the many mistakes Austrian economics has to answer for: As soon as you refuse to let your ideas go up against reality, you stop being a real field of study. And incidentally, they're worse about that than Plato was - his writings not-infrequently have the Socrates characte...
[03:06:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:moved to video, not canceled - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:38] <exec> 08└─The "someone" was named Seth Rich. https://www.washingtonpost.com [washingtonpost.com] http://www.businessinsider.com [b...
[03:06:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:October surprise for Donald J. Trump? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:59] <exec> 08└─How about we let her OWN tax returns speak for themselves. https://i.sli.mg [i.sli.mg]
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[04:01:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dr Lowe has it covered - 06 Medicine/Physiology Nobel Prize for Autophagy - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:01:40] <exec> 08└─I don't understand 75% of what he's talking about but still find his blog entertaining as hell
[04:01:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dr Lowe has it covered - 06 Medicine/Physiology Nobel Prize for Autophagy - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:01:42] <exec> 08└─What are you doing on SoylentNews then? Shouldn't you be on Facebook?
[04:01:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:Dr Lowe has it covered - 06 Medicine/Physiology Nobel Prize for Autophagy - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:01:44] <exec> 08└─Betty White pretty much said it best: "Facebook seems like an enormous waste of time". Or whatever, google isn't giving me her exact quote. Facebook is for a bunch of people who need to have likes to feel liked. I'm perfectly fine with who I am, don't care if you like me or not, and I really don't c...
[04:02:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:This demands a prison sentance - 06One of the Data Recorders from the Sept. 29th Hoboken Train Crash Didn't Work - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:02:01] <exec> 08└─I was not aware of that. I thought the first one worked, the one they had to work at retrieving didn't. The first one didn't work? Jeebus.
[04:02:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Blame the Victim - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:02:46] <exec> 08└─The problem is that these software packages have "evolved" as companies learned that scare tactics brought in the money. They they will label even useless "optimizers" as malware, just because people dislike having them on their system. This in turn inflates the number of hit a scan gets, but also i...
[04:03:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:USB why? - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 437 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:03:30] <exec> 08└─Yup! When work is slow people dick around and take it easy. If you're a good boss/client those workers will bust their asses to make sure things work out. If you're too narrow minded and demand that every minute is accounted for, well you create stress where it is unneeded and thus your workers are...
[04:06:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Why it won't happen ever - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:35] <exec> 08└─And that is why I am not a communist. Not only the definition of asshole is defined by those in power, someone's asshole is someone else's natural instinct.
[04:06:51] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Mission Accomplished - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 40 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:51] <exec> 08└─What makes you think she hasn't already?
[04:06:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Mission Accomplished - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:59] <exec> 08└─> She worked for [Walmart] for 5 years as an executive. Almost--she was on the board of directors for six years. Officials at the time said she wasn't filling a vacancy. In May 1992 [...] she resigned from the board of Wal-Mart. Company officials said at the time that they weren't going to fill her...
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[05:01:43] <exec> 08└─How well does the robot baby suck cock?
[05:01:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dr Lowe has it covered - 06 Medicine/Physiology Nobel Prize for Autophagy - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:01:56] <exec> 08└─> I'm perfectly fine with who I am, don't care if you like me or not, and I really don't care how many online 'friends' you have. But you do seem to care about telling everyone how superior you are. You are nothing more than hipster version of that obnoxious twerp who goes around bragging that he do...
[05:03:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:There Is None - 06Rosetta Spacecraft Sends its Final Images of 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:03:57] <exec> 08└─Osiris was not the god of the sun, but the god of the afterlife. Maybe they'll hope it will live again someday.
[05:04:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Pima County's Outdoor Lighting Code - 06Reykjavik Turns Off Lights for Clearer View of Aurora - 1563 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:04:39] <exec> 08└─Some time around 1968 or 1969 my stepfather was part of a movement of astronomers in and around Tucson, Arizona, to pressure the local government to do something about light pollution. It is one of the few times I have actually seen the government respond to its citizens in a prompt and positive way...
[05:05:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Why it's hard to take the warmists seriously - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:05:28] <exec> 08└─What evidence does he need to provide? After all, he's responding to an article about how climate denialists are taking away our coffee. It apparently is unpossible to plant coffee plants anywhere other than where they are now. The scaremongering is so lazy, it's not worth the effort to science up a...
[05:05:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Huge sack of crap - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:05:38] <exec> 08└─The TLDR is potatoes are not viable above 85F or 30C
[05:07:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:moved to video, not canceled - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:07:03] <exec> 08└─Yes, that is his name. [snopes.com]
[05:07:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03KiloByte [375] (Score:2) 02Re:October surprise for Donald J. Trump? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:07:27] <exec> 08└─What's more likely under Occam's Razor A. Clintons are criminal masterminds who got away with 60+ murders/conspiracies under the microscope of D.C. press and haters B. Fox/Rush/GOP full of spin-shit, paranoia, and statistical Play-Doh for political gain and/or profits.
[05:07:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:October surprise for Donald J. Trump? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:07:33] <exec> 08└─the Christian religion, if it were to be believed, calls for the same.
[05:07:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:How did Trump get mindshare? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:07:43] <exec> 08└─Years ago, we in California got Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger simply because people recognized his name on the ballot and put a mark beside his name. ...though they knew nothing about his politics and there was no evidence that he had any experience to indicate that he was capable of running a stat...
[05:08:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:The criticism against GitHub is nonsensical. - 06Why Kernel Development Still Uses Email - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:08:20] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean.
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[06:01:42] <exec> 08└─Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from children.
[06:01:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Low tech solution - 06Toyota's $392 Robot Baby for Japanese People Without Companions - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:01:44] <exec> 08└─Send them Syrian refugee babies, for goodness sake. They can't be any more dangerous than Galaxy Bot 7's.
[06:03:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Re:Blame the Victim - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 1659 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:03:02] <exec> 08└─Not quite a fair analogy. - Simple passwords = Be able to use a simple lock on an ordinary front door, not the front end of a bank vault. - Click links in untrusted mail = Talk to strangers on your porch, without fear they are going to assault and rob you. - Insert USB sticks = Pick up a dropped env...
[06:06:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Excuse me???? - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:06:36] <exec> 08└─The gov't is inefficient or wasteful because it has no competition and grows sluggish. The private sector is inefficient or wasteful because it spends a large portion of its resources on trying to trick customers into paying for shit they don't really want or need.
[06:07:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine (285)< 2000 /a> (Score:2) 02Re:October surprise for Donald J. Trump? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:07:10] <exec> 08└─It's too bad that Wikileaks hasn't been able to release any Donald Trump info. Maybe leakers think they can get a more prompt reaction from liberal news outlets that are also regularly derided by Mr. Trump.
[06:07:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:October surprise for Donald J. Trump? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:07:25] <exec> 08└─Are you aware of some guarantee that every business venture will be profitable? Or that every investment will occur at the best possible time?
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[07:01:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02introduce Indians to hamburgers - 06India Ratifies Paris Climate Change Agreement - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:01:27] <exec> 08└─Start a hamburger craze and suddenly all the greenhouse gas emitters mysteriously become lunch.
[07:01:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not surprising - 06One of the Data Recorders from the Sept. 29th Hoboken Train Crash Didn't Work - 396 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:59] <exec> 08└─State-owned just means that the profits go to the government. It doesn't automatically imply non-profit. After all, the government needs money, too. The reason why many government operations are inefficient is not that they are government-driven, it's because they are government monopolies. Monopoli...
[07:02:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03julian [6003] 02Re:Or cut back on Sugur - 06Adaptation to Food Deprivation as a Clue for Treating Metabolic Diseases - 818 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:25] <exec> 08└─Sugar, sedentary lifestyle, food additives, hormones, antibiotics, processed foods, vitamin deficiencies, low dietary fiber, dehydration, sleep deprivation, stress, over-use of alcohol, pollution, and probably lots of other things I can't think of ATM. Modern Western culture is an all out assault on...
[07:02:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Blame the Victim - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:49] <exec> 08└─But they obviously haven't yet learned that using magic means you have to be careful that the demons you control don't get out of control.
[07:02:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Blame the Victim - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:55] <exec> 08└─* click links in untrusted email
[07:06:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Mission Accomplished - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 481 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:57] <exec> 08└─I wouldn't put it past her [twitter.com]... Also, this might explain Assanges apparent bias against her, even if it favours Trump. It's a desaster that the choices in this election are so bad, I'd whish they'd both just disappear. But given the fact that realistically it will be either Trump or Clin...
[07:07:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03migz [1807] (Score:2) 02Re:October surprise for Donald J. Trump? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 568 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:16] <exec> 08└─"But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together. 35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, 36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy...
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[08:01:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02no more high speed police chases - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:01:33] <exec> 08└─Real life is about to become a lot more boring. Soon the cop shows will have to fake stuff even more than usual.
[08:01:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03riT-k0MA [88] (Score:2) 02Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:01:35] <exec> 08└─What about life-threatening emergencies? If someone's seriously injured and there's no time to wait for an ambulance, one would need to break the speed limit to rush them to hospital. Is there a way to disable the device if one's hazard lights are on, signifying there's an emergency? if so, what's...
[08:01:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:01:37] <exec> 08└─You don't have the authority to break the speed limit under any circumstances. Maybe you haven't noticed but you don't have rights anymore. In an emergency you dial 911 and you let the legally empowered emergency services handle your emergency. If emergency services don't respond fast enough, too ba...
[08:01:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:01:39] <exec> 08└─if so, what's to stop a speedster from activating their hazard lights in order to speed?
[08:01:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Safety vs Liberty - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 575 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:01:41] <exec> 08└─Driving too fast isn't the problem, but merely a catch-all for "we're not sure but he was moving". There's no category for "didn't use turn signals" or "cow path roads with curves and blind spots". Nor is there a "poor reflexes" or "elderly driver who shouldn't be on the roads". Everything that move...
[08:02:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02AutoSoylentPhagyNews! - 06 Medicine/Physiology Nobel Prize for Autophagy - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:02:09] <exec> 08└─Just a reminder: SoylentNews is People, people who love people, people who might just eat people, because Soylent Green is also people. So what if, you like lost a limb, in the Brave New World of Soylent Green: could you not end up being an autophage? Careful what you eat! And be even more careful...
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[08:02:51] <exec> 08└─Don't forget Edward Jenner too, for vaccines that helped reduce the prevalence of infectious disease.
[08:03:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 1355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:03:33] <exec> 08└─They want it because they've been educated to want it. It's also much more convenient to enter a house without first needing to unlock it. Yet I'm not aware of people demanding no-lock front doors. I'm not aware of anyone in the pre-USB times complaining that you plugged the keyboard to another port...
[08:03:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 542 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:03:36] <exec> 08└─Nope. They said they would, but they didn't. They disabled it for anything that claimed to be a hard drive, but kept it on for anything that claimed to be a read-only media (CD-ROM, etc). And then they published documents on how to make your auto-running-driver-install use the USB IDs of read-only m...
[08:03:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:03:39] <exec> 08└─more, a world where you plug in a USB stick and default configurations don't allow it to automatically infect your computer.
[08:03:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:USB why? - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:03:50] <exec> 08└─It's probably better to deal with the issue within the OS in the end.
[08:06:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03migz [1807] (Score:2) 02Re:Keynes - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 1276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:06:26] <exec> 08└─Er. You still get to check the theories against reality. The Austrian epistemological constraints are on what is acceptable as a theory, not on whether or not it should be compared to reality. In physics you can use maths to make a model using classical mechanics and prove a certain outcome. Then yo...
[08:06:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03migz [1807] (Score:2) 02Re:Funny Sad - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:06:52] <exec> 08└─The difference is, a company that allowed Smiths to reign for too long would go out of business. But if Smith worked for government ...
[08:06:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03migz [1807] (Score:2) 02Re:Excuse me???? - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:06:56] <exec> 08└─Don't confuse "profit" with "money". Classical economics is based on maximizing utility, and this is not inherently monetary in nature. Economics does not require money, and capitalism does not require it either. This how economics can explain philanthropy.
[08:09:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:*crickets* - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:23] <exec> 08└─Yeah, emphasis on had. These massive W10 cock-ups are likely because they fixed that in mid 2014 [zdnet.com], putting the onus of testing on the developers and home users [computerworld.com]. They got exactly as much testing as they paid for, too.
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[09:01:39] <exec> 08└─No. People will figure out how to disable this shit. Oops, officer. Just like your dashcam, somehow the speed limiting system isn't working right. And here's the receipt from the shop I took it to last week, and they can't figure out why it's not working either.
[09:01:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:no more high speed police chases - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:01:41] <exec> 08└─You see that axe buried in the thing, that's why it isn't wo 2000 rking, son...
[09:01:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03riT-k0MA [88] (Score:2) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:01:45] <exec> 08└─911 doesn't work in my country. We have to dial 112. Also speeding under emergency circumstances is accepted in my country :-P
[09:01:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:01:48] <exec> 08└─I'd be more concerned with a situation where you have e.g. to escape a avalanche. Is there a way to disable the device if one's hazard lights are on, signifying there's an emergency? if so, what's to stop a speedster from activating their hazard lights in order to speed?
[09:01:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Safety vs Liberty - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:01:51] <exec> 08└─Not sure what this has to do with masculinity, but I do agree that people seem terrified of unlikely threats. It's like people place almost zero value on freedom subscribe to the 'If It Saves Just One' ideology.
[09:01:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Safety vs Liberty - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:01:53] <exec> 08└─Driving too fast isn't the problem
[09:01:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Safety vs Liberty - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:01:56] <exec> 08└─Remember, e = mv^2
[09:01:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Farkus888 [5159] (Score:2) 02Australia - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:01:58] <exec> 08└─The .au on the link is telling here. Australia is very anti car enthusiasm of any kind on the legal front. They will take your car for such heinous and clearly objective crimes as "wilfully starting a motor vehicle or driving in way that makes unnecessary noise" https://www.qld.gov.au
[09:02:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score:3, Interesting) 02India - 06India Ratifies Paris Climate Change Agreement - 550 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:02:07] <exec> 08└─Let's look it up (electricity, unless specified) (2013) 1.2PWh Gross 750kWh/capita 220TWh transmission losses Breakdown (2013) 697TWh black coal 170TWh brown coal 142TWh hydro 80TWh other renewables 65TWh natural gas 34TWh nuclear 23TWh oil (Currently about 21% non-fossil, so they need another 256TW...
[09:02:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02WCPGW? - 06Toyota's $392 Robot Baby for Japanese People Without Companions - 516 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:02:18] <exec> 08└─> It also comes with a "cradle" that doubles as its baby seat designed to fit in car cup holders. Ah, so it's actually a solution to the "too many adults lacking babies" problem by using a devious "lets have them all kill themselves in car accidents because they're paying attention to something cute...
[09:02:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Realism? - 06Toyota's $392 Robot Baby for Japanese People Without Companions - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:02:20] <exec> 08└─Will those baby robots grow up? I mean, if you think a child in puberty is hard to handle, imagine a robot in puberty! ;-)
[09:03:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Luxottica - 06Intel and Luxottica Launch "Radar Pace" Smartglasses - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:03:02] <exec> 08└─Ah yes, Luxottica, the man behind the curtain. They own pretty much 90 to 95% of the market for glasses yet no-one knows them. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. Get your raybans here...
[09:04:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:04:00] <exec> 08└─Good advice... for 1998. These days, the stuff you have to watch out for subverts the USB controller's firmware or pretends to be a USB HCI device to send arbitrary control sequences to the device (and also pretends to be a USB mass storage device so that it can copy sensitive information to a parti...
[09:04:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 2074 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:04:03] <exec> 08└─Part of the problem is the entire security model around executables. Or rather... the lack of it. Any program I run as user x automatically has the same privileges as user x, which in practice it means 8000 it can do whatever it wants to in my home folder containing my documents and other data. Who...
[09:04:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:USB why? - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:04:16] <exec> 08└─It's probably better to deal with the issue within the OS in the end.
[09:04:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:USB why? - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 588 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:04:34] <exec> 08└─Talk about useless optimizations. People might have wasted some time on the company's dime; how terrible! Unless it become a serious issue, I don't see the problem. Sometimes, doing 'useless' things can improve efficiency by giving the employees enough time off to prevent brain overload. There's als...
[09:05:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03aim [6322] (Score:1) 02Re:CMOS image sensors do not work - 06Reykjavik Turns Off Lights for Clearer View of Aurora - 591 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:05:27] <exec> 08└─Umm, no, your problem is with your cellphone's sensor and trying for a movie, not the fact that its CMOS. Using a standard DSLR (which pretty much all also use CMOS sensors), you can capture an aurora, using a long exposure. It helps if your individual pixels are large (i.e. big sensor), so they hav...
[09:05:47] <exec> *** new comment: 031ff6 TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Chocolate - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 961 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:05:48] <exec> 08└─It might, though it's worth noting that it's never really gone away. The Common Agricultural Policy in the EU came from a post-WWII desire to ensure domestic food production was enough in case of trade blockades. The problem is the same as any centrally planned economy: it's difficult to make it fle...
[09:08:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:October surprise for Donald J. Trump? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:08:14] <exec> 08└─What's more likely under Occam's Razor A. Clintons are criminal masterminds who got away with 60+ murders/conspiracies under the microscope of D.C. press and haters B. Fox/Rush/GOP full of spin-shit, paranoia, and statistical Play-Doh for political gain and/or profits.
[09:09:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:The criticism against GitHub is nonsensical. - 06Why Kernel Development Still Uses Email - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:09:01] <exec> 08└─We don't create infrastructure where developers are required to use git, but we create infrastructure where developers are able to use git (and GitHub). Freedom is something that BSD communities tend to be quite keen on. We won't force GPL'd code on you, but if you're happy to accept it then you're...
[09:09:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:The criticism against GitHub is nonsensical. - 06Why Kernel Development Still Uses Email - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:09:04] <exec> 08└─Then what's preventing FreeBSD from picking up DCVS or even rolling your own?
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[10:01:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:01:33] <exec> 08└─... because nothing says "we're a nation built on Christian values" like killing people...
[10:01:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:01:35] <exec> 08└─Christ did not rebuke the Roman Empire for putting to death the others during His Crucifixion. Nor did He come to overturn the old laws that included much stricter rules than we have today. We should use guillotines and harvest the corpses for organs. This injection garbage is indirectly killing ano...
[10:01:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:01:37] <exec> 08└─The Chinese, some say, disassemble the bodies of executed prisoners. I don't know what killing techniques they use. It's unfortunate that the various marijuana referenda didn't pass in Ohio, because "killing them with cannabis" has a similar sound and meaning to "killing them with kindness." Althoug...
[10:01:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Farkus888 [5159] (Score:2) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 541 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:01:39] <exec> 08└─I sense you are being sarcastic but you are correct. Matthew 5:18 "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." The words of Jesus himself. You can nearly pick any single page of the old testament and see tha...
[10:01:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Perhaps they should consider - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:01:41] <exec> 08└─It seems they refuse to consider that they may be having problems obtaining drugs for execution because a majority don't approve of their bloodlust.
[10:01:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:01:57] <exec> 08└─I'd be more concerned with a situation where you have e.g. to escape a avalanche.
[10:02:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Safety vs Liberty - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 538 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:02:02] <exec> 08└─it varies by state. Victoria has a 0km/h threshold (ie, fixed and mobile speed cameras, police with radar guns and red light safety cameras all book you if you are even 0.5km/h over the limit - even though the Australia Road Rules allow your speedometer to be up to 10% out - these days, the 10% had...
[10:02:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03quintessence [6227] (Score:2) 02Re:Safety vs Liberty - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:02:04] <exec> 08└─speed limits are one of the most selectively enforced laws and a system where most people commit crimes but only certain ones are punished is a lot closer to fascism than one where everyone is punished for violations.
[10:02:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:Safety vs Liberty - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:02:06] <exec> 08└─It's an anti-male movement because males get more speeding tickets, or get in school fights, or whatever we're having zero-tolerance for today.
[10:02:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03tfried [5534] (Score:2) 02Re:Safety vs Liberty - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:02:09] <exec> 08└─The war on masculinity continues.
[10:02:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:Australia - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:02:12] <exec> 08└─don't forget "sustained loss of traction" (aka burnout) (also an offence in New Zealand) http://www.geoffharrison.com.au [geoffharrison.com.au]
[10:02:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Australia - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:02:14] <exec> 08└─Modded informative, printed, and soon to be mailed to the American Legislative Exchange Council, thanks.
[10:03:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Type44Q [4347] (Score:1) 02Re:Curious about the definition of real time - 06Intel and Luxottica Launch "Radar Pace" Smartglasses - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:03:15] <exec> 08└─am I just not attentive enough?
[10:04:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:04:24] <exec> 08└─I am a robotic janitor, you insensitive clod!
[10:05:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Waaaaanker - 06Mirai IoT Botnet Source Code Released - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:05:25] <exec> 08└─For this malware dubbed “Mirai”, Krebs has a product list: " rel="url2html-20703">https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/10/who-makes-the-iot-things-under-attack/
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[11:01:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Compare to Hoboken, New Jersey. - 06Italian Official Cleared of Manslaughter Charges in Earthquake Trial - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:01:40] <exec> 08└─https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=16/10/04/0010250 [soylentnews.org]
[11:01:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:01:51] <exec> 08└─*could get high
[11:01:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:01:53] <exec> 08└─We should use guillotines and harvest the corpses for organs.
[11:01:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondrake [2658] (Score:2) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 497 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:01:56] <exec> 08└─meh...and still "do not kill" is part of the commandments. I would say the book is a bit inconsistent. I would prefer the original poster had argued that killing of convicts, especially if it is done in the context of a corrupted, broken and costly system as in the US, may not be the best way to dea...
[11:01:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Farkus888 [5159] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 572 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:01:58] <exec> 08└─Certainly inconsistent. There are 5 or 6 passages about being nice. They stick out like a sore thumb. The misunderstanding of Christianity gets under my skin. Stop and think about the things in it and you would never use it to defend your positions. The real issue with the death penalty is that is a...
[11:01:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:02:00] <exec> 08└─'Do not kill' is a translation. The original word is closer to murder than to kill (and so doesn't include things like killing in a war, killing for execution), but murder is defined as killing illegally and it's a bit tautological to have a rule that says 'you may not kill in such a way that is in...
[11:02:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03MadTinfoilHatter [4635] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:02:03] <exec> 08└─and still "do not kill" is part of the commandments. I would say the book is a bit inconsistent.
[11:02:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Farkus888 [5159] (Score:2) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:02:05] <exec> 08└─As I already stated in this thread... Matthew 5:18 "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." The words of Jesus himself. As an obvious apologist, I hope you aren't wearing mixed fibers.
[11:02:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 578 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:02:07] <exec> 08└─Even if that were true (in the New Testament it says that Jesus did not intend to abolish all the OT rules), why is somehow alright for a supposedly almighty being to subject peop 1a23 le--anyone, and at any time period--to truly barbaric and unethical rules? Why do you feel as if that somehow makes...
[11:02:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Quit screwing around and just use nitrogen - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:02:10] <exec> 08└─Put 'em in a box, fill it with nitrogen. If you have to do it at all.
[11:02:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:02:27] <exec> 08└─escape a avalanche Twenty is plenty.
[11:02:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Safety vs Liberty - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:02:35] <exec> 08└─So, something that would eliminate the need to give anyone speed tickets (because no one would be able to exceed the speed limit) is anti-male because it would disproportionately reduce the number of males receiving tickets?
[11:02:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:India - 06India Ratifies Paris Climate Change Agreement - 937 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:02:48] <exec> 08└─They'll want to deter both Pakistan and China. [...] India is estimated to have produced approximately 520 kilograms of weapons-grade plutonium, sufficient for 100—130 nuclear warheads; however, not all of the material has been converted into warheads. Based on available information about its nuc...
[11:02:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Low tech solution - 06Toyota's $392 Robot Baby for Japanese People Without Companions - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:02:59] <exec> 08└─Import infants and build adult-shaped robots to rear them?
[11:03:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:WCPGW? - 06Toyota's $392 Robot Baby for Japanese People Without Companions - 1335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:03:01] <exec> 08└─Maybe, maybe not. I'm reminded of something I read a while back that attempting to deter teen pregnancy by giving teenage girls realistic baby dolls spectacularly fails and actually causes more teen pregnancy. It couldn't have been this Salon article [salon.com] because it's too recent, but here you...
[11:03:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I'll wager he drives... - 06 Medicine/Physiology Nobel Prize for Autophagy - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:03:16] <exec> 08└─...a Miata.
[11:04:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 727 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:04:59] <exec> 08└─> And passwords ... ye god ... what a horrible method for keeping things secure. Why haven't we transitioned to a public-key infrastructure? Unprotected private keys are not an alternative to passwords, they are an entirely different type of security. They are "something you have (in a form inconven...
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[12:01:44] <exec> 08└─was acquitted by Judge Giuseppe Grieco on Friday on the grounds of "not having committed the crime."
[12:02:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondrake [2658] (Score:2) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:02:01] <exec> 08└─agreed. Except for the "position" part. If I am going to rank seriousness of a crime depending in the order they appear in legal (or religious) text X, I predict we get some very interesting implications.
[12:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Quit screwing around and just use nitrogen - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:02:07] <exec> 08└─Not painful enough.
[12:02:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Quit screwing around and just use nitrogen - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:02:09] <exec> 08└─Then why kill them at all? Why not torture them for the rest of their days?
[12:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:02:23] <exec> 08└─Lucky. They changed mine to 0118 999 881 999 119 725 3
[12:02:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03zocalo [302] 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 81 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:02:26] <exec> 08└─I'd be more concerned with a situation where you have e.g. to escape a avalanche.
[12:02:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:2) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 2637 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:02:30] <exec> 08└─Easy. You put an option that says "Do you want to override?" Which records, in an impermeable record, what time, what location, what speed, and what key was in the ignition when it was overrode. Are you going to override it on every journey if it's going to be a permanent record of every time you br...
[12:02:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormreaver [5101] (Score:2) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:02:32] <exec> 08└─The irrefutable evidence that speeding is the primary cause of accidents....
[12:02:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 1596 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:02:34] <exec> 08└─Forget about emergencies, what about normal driving? Isn't merging and passing going to be extremely difficult when people around you are traveling at max speed? What will police departments (in USA) do to make up for the lack of speeding ticket income? How easy will it be to tape a tiny 90 MPH pict...
[12:02:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Safety vs Liberty - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:02:40] <exec> 08└─In my car, E = m gamma
[12:02:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Safety vs Liberty - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:02:46] <exec> 08└─Female detected.
[12:02:49] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03MostCynical [2589] 02Re:Australia - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 157 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:02:50] <exec> 08└─don't forget "sustained loss of traction" (aka burnout) (also an offence in New Zealand) http://www.geoffharrison.com.au [geoffharrison.com.au]
[12:02:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Australia - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:02:53] <exec> 08└─In Australia its "Failure to maintain full control of vehicle"
[12:02:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Overtaking - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:02:55] <exec> 08└─so, no overtaking, at all, ever. fuck off.
[12:03:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02It's not that close - 06India Ratifies Paris Climate Change Agreement - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:03:07] <exec> 08└─I see the story claims that the US has ratified the treaty, but those would be incorrect. President Obama has considerable latitude in negotiating treaties, but he can't ratify treaties. That is the role of the US Senate. So the treaty is significantly further away from 55% of global carbon emission...
[12:03:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Low tech solution - 06Toyota's $392 Robot Baby for Japanese People Without Companions - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:03:18] <exec> 08└─Excellent! Those can be the robot consumers we need in the post-automated world where all humans except for the CxO class have starved to death since they can't compete with the robot technician robots. Ever increasingly increasing!
[12:03:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Low tech solution - 06Toyota's $392 Robot Baby for Japanese People Without Companions - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:03:19] <exec> 08└─Importing human infants and building adult-shaped robots to rear them was what I meant. Fresh blood brought in that way would ameliorate the aging of Japan's population without endangering Japanese culture.
[12:03:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Root cause - 06Toyota's $392 Robot Baby for Japanese People Without Companions - 536 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:03:24] <exec> 08└─> Japan's [...] plummeting birthrate, Question is, why is their birth rate plummeting? Is it the same decline that most industrialised countries see, or is it more pronounced? Could it be that A) Young Japanese people are too overworked and overpressured to devote any energy to procreation? B) Japan...
[12:06:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03gmrath [4181] (Score:1) 02Re:Well that explains it - 06Mirai IoT Botnet Source Code Released - 419 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:06:25] <exec> 08└─Check ATT's ThreatTraq on YouTube. Port 23 sees the bulk of probes, reaching historic levels around 75% of the probes on networks that ATT monitors (millions per second). Port 23 is also the port of choice of things probing networks. Mostly IoT devices with default passwords to backdoors that the en...
[12:07:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Why it's hard to take the warmists seriously - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:07:33] <exec> 08└─Just going by what's in the abstract, I wouldn't use the word "intense." "Clustered tornado events," as one of the papers they cited calls the phenomenon, would be more descriptive.
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[13:01:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Now where have I heard this before... - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:01:42] <exec> 08└─This might lead to another exposure of similar to the church of scientology's "operation snow white". This is also a good time to reconsider laws which protect cultist and religious institutions from things like paying taxes. Fair's fair.
[13:01:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03WizardFusion [498] (Score:2) 02The God Delusion - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:01:44] <exec> 08└─"When one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion."
[13:01:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02mormons mormons everywhere ! ! ! - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 1190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:01:46] <exec> 08└─it is interesting how many mormons are found in unexpected places (besides broadway): wikipedia: Hughes' considerable business holdings were overseen by a small panel unofficially dubbed "The Mormon Mafia" because of the many Latter-day Saints on the committee, led by Frank William Gay.[69] In addit...
[13:02:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03MadTinfoilHatter [4635] (Score:2) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 1119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:13] <exec> 08└─And this in turn illustrates the point I made about not prying a verse out of context and single-mindedly hammer that. This is true even if it's something Jesus himself said. Since you seem to have taken a liking for Matthew, let's look at another passage from there: At that time Jesus went through...
[13:02:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 559 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:15] <exec> 08└─If you constantly have to do all these 'It's just metaphorical!' and 'You're taking it too literally!' mental gymnastics for passages in the bible that you don't like, maybe the bible is, at best. indecipherable garbage. Have you considered that possibility? There are countless denominations of Chri...
[13:02:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondrake [2658] (Score:2) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 1616 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:18] <exec> 08└─Actually, I consider myself some sort of Christian, but most other Christians would probably not consider me as such. I would for instance tell you that the whole book (old and new) is written by good and bad people, and intended for a certain place and time, and not free from propaganda either. The...
[13:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Oakenshield [4900] (Score:1) 02Re:Quit screwing around and just use nitrogen - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:24] <exec> 08└─Then why kill them at all? Why not torture them for the rest of their days?
[13:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Three words, rhymes with "Fun" - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 986 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:02:26] <exec> 08└─Sounds like what they need is some affordable device that is easily available in the USA, and already proven effective for killing people in the course of law enforcement and military action. You'll need a supply of people who are happy to exercise their constitutional rights & use it for you, too....
[13:02:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] 02Safety vs Liberty - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 581 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:02:48] <exec> 08└─Driving too fast isn't the problem, but merely a catch-all for "we're not sure but he was moving". There's no category for "didn't use turn signals" or "cow path roads with curves and blind spots". Nor is there a "poor reflexes" or "elderly driver who shouldn't be on the roads". Everything that move...
[13:03:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Even More Hokum - 06India Ratifies Paris Climate Change Agreement - 604 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:03:14] <exec> 08└─"Climate Change" my arse. There is no climate change. This is "Global Warming" rebranded, which in turn was the sequel of the "Ozone Hole" fantasy. Brought to you by the Powers That Be (tm), so you curl like a ball, scared in front of your screen for you and your kids and await further instructions....
[13:03:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Low tech solution - 06Toyota's $392 Robot Baby for Japanese People Without Companions - 994 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:28] <exec> 08└─A rather devout religious assertion of no human biological differences. Doesn't fit reality. Why waste all the fossil fuels importing, its not like the local women magically have no eggs. Which circularizes the whole argument to lets say we exterminate the Japanese race and replace with foreigners w...
[13:03:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Realism? - 06Toyota's $392 Robot Baby for Japanese People Without Companions - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:33] <exec> 08└─All those oil soaked socks...
[13:03:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Root cause - 06Toyota's $392 Robot Baby for Japanese People Without Companions - 3162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:36] <exec> 08└─They have too many people and too few jobs for them. They're undergoing a massive economic transition over the last decade or two, going from something kinda like pre-rust belt lifetime salary employment to something like post-industrial millennial experience of no employment or part time at best. U...
[13:06:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:There Is None - 06Rosetta Spacecraft Sends its Final Images of 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:06:11] <exec> 08└─Sure. By "sun worship" I meant the whole mumbo-jumbo those clowns are into (mostly sun worship, at least on its surface).
[13:08:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Funny Sad - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:08:49] <exec> 08└─The difference is, a company that allowed Smiths to reign for too long would go out of business.
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[14:01:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Quoth South Park... - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:01:43] <exec> 08└─Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb!!
[14:01:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:2) 02re Interesting - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:01:46] <exec> 08└─Very interesting remarks from Senator Gordon Smith, more interesting than probably revealing classified information is his outlook for economics, energy and climate change, as they relate to the ambitions of his church. If you watch nothing else, these ~10 minutes [youtube.com] are worth every secon...
[14:01:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Transparency - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 1049 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:01:48] <exec> 08└─Any group that doesn't want you to know how it operates is going to be: a) A group that EVERYONE should know how it operates. b) A group that you don't want to be a part of if you have an ounce of morals. c) A group that should receive special attention in regards to taxation, employment and other l...
[14:02:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03TheRaven [270] 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 61 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:09] <exec> 08└─We should use guillotines and harvest the corpses for organs.
[14:02:12] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03TheRaven [270] 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 456 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:12] <exec> 08└─'Do not kill' is a translation. The original word is closer to murder than to kill (and so doesn't include things like killing in a war, killing for execution), but murder is defined as killing illegally and it's a bit tautological to have a rule that says 'you may not kill in such a way that is in...
[14:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 1027 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:21] <exec> 08└─"Actually, I consider myself some sort of Christian, but most other Christians would probably not consider me as such." and THAT is an issue right there: the mainstream of xtianity has essentially abandoned xtianity in favor of social issues and damning *everyone else* to perdition (not to mention w...
[14:02:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:23] <exec> 08└─a non cow : "... because nothing says "we're a nation built on Christian values" like killing people..." i am always curious what the overlap is between the cohort who is utterly opposed to any/all abortions (on account of the 'sanctity of life', *snort* as if...), and those who are knee-jerk propon...
[14:02:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:44] <exec> 08└─I think that if you are being chased by a super fast zombie hoarde, or an alien spacecraft, you should be able to drive as fast as your vehicle is capable of going.
[14:02:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:2) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:52] <exec> 08└─If you are going too fast to stop in the distance, it's the same thing. Semantics and variable substitution mean that measuring SPEED (rather than trying to measure a subjective distance between two fast-moving vehicles, at speed, accurately, and present to court) is infinitely easier and more prose...
[14:02:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:55] <exec> 08└─Forget about emergencies, what about normal driving? Isn't merging and passing going to be extremely difficult when people around you are traveling at max speed?
[14:03:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Safety vs Liberty - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:02] <exec> 08└─1 / n = sin x Now cancel the 'n' on both sides: 1 = six or: 1 = 6
[14:03:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Cunts rule - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:03:14] <exec> 08└─This is what you get with democracy. Cunts ruling over men.
[14:03:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:India - 06India Ratifies Paris Climate Change Agreement - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:24] <exec> 08└─Someone needs to contain China, now that it holds USA by the balls.
[14:03:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Realism? - 06Toyota's $392 Robot Baby for Japanese People Without Companions - 1774 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:45] <exec> 08└─"Open the pod bay door, Hal" "F you Dad (slams door, turns on loud music)" I remember reading an essay, hard to say how serious or comic it was, probably intentional by the author, that compared the behavior of a HAL9000 to a severely maladjusted teenage boy and suggested if/when we grow AIs if we t...
[14:03:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:Root cause - 06Toyota's $392 Robot Baby for Japanese People Without Companions - 849 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:49] <exec> 08└─> Its kinda like being a millennial in the USA or to a lesser extent a gen-x-er, if you can get one of the good jobs this is a hell of a good time to be alive, I dunno, I get the impression it's a pretty shitty time to be Japanese, no matter what. Seems you can be either an overworked salaryman who...
[14:03:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03 (Score:0) 02Re:Root cause - 06Toyota's $392 Robot Baby for Japanese People Without Companions - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:51] <exec> 08└─If you have an economy holding say, 7 jobs, and have 10 people needing jobs, the last thing you need to do is import more people.
[14:04:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Checked out one of his papers - 06 Medicine/Physiology Nobel Prize for Autophagy - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:04:06] <exec> 08└─This doesn't seem like very convincing stuff... a couple representative images, no uncertainties on the quantifications, no idea of sample size, many experiments seem to have been done without control groups, no mention of blinding when there were control groups. I really hope people like physicists...
[14:04:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Luxottica - 06Intel and Luxottica Launch "Radar Pace" Smartglasses - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:04:38] <exec> 08└─Waste of a name for a good porn company. Anything that ends in -otica, really.
[14:05:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Blame the Victim - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 759 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:05:25] <exec> 08└─They should ALL be taught to you in school and by your parents. The article seems to be saying that the most sensible basic computer precautions should NOT be taught to you in school and by your parents. Go ahead and plug every random USB stick into your computer. If you receive an email from an unk...
[14:05:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 565 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:05:37] <exec> 08└─The point of locks and sturdy doors isn't to prevent people from the possibility of breaking in. The point of it is to raise the signature of people trying to break in. If they're having to mess around with the lock for a few minutes, that's going to deter a lot of burglars that would like to be in...
[14:05:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 673 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:05:41] <exec> 08└─That's true, but that's something else that the computers should be guarding against. Same goes for those cracks that involve firmware of things like monitors that nobody can reasonably be expected to worry about. But, at some point, there is a limit to what can reasonably be done about things of th...
[14:06:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:USB why? - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 847 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:22] <exec> 08└─There's no clinical evidence to support such a strong assertion. There's a huge variety of music and of individuals. I personally get a whole lot more done of certain types of tasks when I'm listening to music. There are combinations to avoid like any type of music with words when you're working wit...
[14:06:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:USB why? - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:26] <exec> 08└─Usually, you can also use a cellphone. An unlimited data plan isn't that expensive any more and if they're being bitches at work, it's the step before going to work for somebody that knows what they're doing.
[14:07:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03joshuajon [807] (Score:2) 02Why are IoT devices actually on the Internet? - 06Mirai IoT Botnet Source Code Released - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:07:07] <exec> 08└─My question is who is exposing these things directly to the internet? Most SOHO routers make it fairly simple to do if you understand the basic concepts of LAN / WAN, and NAT, but if these are people who don't even bother to change the default password you'd think they wouldn't be too quick to get t...
[14:08:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Keynes - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:08:52] <exec> 08└─The empiricists have been taking Keynes' theories for ages and saying, good enough. But those theories are falling apart at the moment, since they are being tested on the global economy.
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[15:01:48] <exec> 08└─> only one press article has been published about this decision. ABC: No story CBS: No story NBC: No story CNN: No story Funny how all the networks crying about how Donald Trump cannot possibly be trusted are doing a great job proving why they themselves are unworthy of trust. This is a treasonous l...
[15:01:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:Our Corrupt Media - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 982 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:01:49] <exec> 08└─It is, and it's nothing new. One really clear way to see it is just to track who they bring on as 'experts.' You get the same guys that were wrong on 911, wrong on Afghanistan, wrong on Iraq, wrong on Libya, proven wrong each and every time, and let's bring them on and treat them as revered elders f...
[15:01:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Our Corrupt Media - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 1858 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:01:51] <exec> 08└─Remember when no major news outlet covered SOPA? It was being widely discussed online. It was an existential threat to the freedom of the internet. Not a peep. But then some major web sites had black pages for a day, explaining what SOPA was. Suddenly many congress critters in support were distancin...
[15:01:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02bad for lawyers, great for everyone else - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 721 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:01:54] <exec> 08└─> hasn't caught the eye of legal firms or they're just trying to ignore it I'm going with "ignore". Patent and copyright fights have been a cash cow for legal firms. They sure don't want any clarifications that make lawsuits unnecessary and pointless. As to why the media is ignoring this, it doesn't...
[15:01:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:bad for lawyers, great for everyone else - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:01:56] <exec> 08└─Linking IP monopolies to Freedom of Speech by stating that they hinder it?
[15:02:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Transparency - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:10] <exec> 08└─But derpa derp muh freedumb of religion!
[15:02:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Speaking of troubling things... - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:11] <exec> 08└─One briefing that is particularly troubling was given by a former U.S. senator from Oregon, Gordon H. Smith. Smith, a member of the church, admits that he values obedience to the hierarchy and loyalty to the church more than he does his office.
[15:02:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:46] <exec> 08└─> You can't just pull a quote out of context and use that as a "proof" of how bad Christianity is Why not? Self-styled christians like runaway and Billy Graham's son do it all the time. Except they use it as "proof" of how bad Islam is. Goose and gander, amirite?
[15:02:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Entropy [4228] (Score:2) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:48] <exec> 08└─Ever look up the origin of the saying "Kill them all, let god sort it out." ?
[15:02:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Quit screwing around and just use nitrogen - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 868 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:55] <exec> 08└─And here I am stuck trying to figure out why killing somebody doesn't typically fall under the definition of "cruel" in the US. I do think, if we're going to kill people, we should be doing something more like a public execution by guillotine or firing squad or something complete with angry mob. Thi...
[15:02:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Three LETTERS. Duh. - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:59] <exec> 08└─See subject. Never could get the hang of (checks) Tuesdays.
[15:03:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 639 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:03:18] <exec> 08└─Emergency responders don't usually have the authority to break the speed limit. Firetrucks, aid cars and ambulances are often allowed to drive on the wrong side of the road and run red lights, but they're not generally allowed to drive much over the speed limit. The reason being that it's not usuall...
[15:03:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 1022 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:03:22] <exec> 08└─Some time ago some guy and his kids were crossing the road in a 60 zone near a corner. I took the corner at about 35 to 40 km/h. Didn't come close to hitting anyone. The dickhead kicked my car as I passed slowed down to about 20, then jumped in his car and chased me. Luckily, that POS could jump to...
[15:03:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:03:25] <exec> 08└─so you nearly ran over an innocent family crossing the street then when the loving father chased you you ran and hid like a chicken shit? bravo sir!
[15:03:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 552 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:03:31] <exec> 08└─No. You and the guy in front of you can both be going exactly the speed limit, either 30 feet apart, or 300 feet apart. You're saying there's no difference between these conditions? There are already things to ticket people on for this circumstance--reckless driving, driving too fast for conditions...
[15:03:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 468 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:03:35] <exec> 08└─Partially, but the main reason that this is such a bad idea has nothing to do with these niche cases, it has to do with the fact that they're adding a new and unnecessary complexity that could be cracked or outright broken and could lead to problems. Not to mention the fact that you should never be...
[15:03:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Safety vs Liberty - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:03:43] <exec> 08└─This looks fun - can I have a go? sin / cos = tan in / co = tan i / co = ta i = taco
[15:03:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Australia - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 984 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:03:54] <exec> 08└─This was the gist of the notice. It said "The Guide is definitive. Reality is frequently inaccurate." This has led to some interesting consequences. For instance, when the Editors of the Guide were sued by the families of those who had died as a result of taking the entry on the planet Tralal litera...
[15:04:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kilo110 [2853] (Score:2) 02Re:introduce Indians to hamburgers - 06India Ratifies Paris Climate Change Agreement - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:04:05] <exec> 08└─That would lead to commercial cattle farms and more cattle. It'll have the opposite effect.
[15:04:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kilo110 [2853] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not that close - 06India Ratifies Paris Climate Change Agreement - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:04:11] <exec> 08└─OK anonymous Internet poster. Your compelling case devoid of any citations or hard data convinced me that all the countless scientists are not only wrong, but also manipulated by some grand puppeteer. Glad we had this talk
[15:04:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Even More Hokum - 06India Ratifies Paris Climate Change Agreement - 442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:04:14] <exec> 08└─Here is the thing. Oil has been burned in industrialization of early nation-states. The whole middle east has been destabilized to achieve that. But now rest of the world is catching up to the idea of nation-state and the idea of nationalization, we need to establish another metric of betterment. We...
[15:04:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Checked out one of his papers - 06 Medicine/Physiology Nobel Prize for Autophagy - 571 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:04:53] <exec> 08└─A lot of earlier biology research was poorly done or incomplete by today's standards. Part of the reason why there's still been advancement in the field is because scientists rely on independent replication of results in different labs using different techniques and systems. The scientific record te...
[15:04:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Checked out one of his papers - 06 Medicine/Physiology Nobel Prize for Autophagy - 461 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:04:54] <exec> 08└─Replication is firstly a way to make sure we understand the experimental conditions well enough to explain to other people, and secondly to check that the phenomenon is relatively stable in time/space (and so is a promising thing to study). While it is of utmost important to do replications, I don't...
[15:05:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Curious about the definition of real time - 06Intel and Luxottica Launch "Radar Pace" Smartglasses - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:05:26] <exec> 08└─displace a drone to catch
[15:06:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:30] <exec> 08└─Also I'm sure that the vast majority of people don't ever change the keyboard that came with their computer. So there could be keyboard pairing, and the computer could come with the keyboard already paired, just as the OS is already installed.
[15:06:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:34] <exec> 08└─I believe as of Windows 8.1 the default is, it pops up a menu asking you what you want to do when plug in a USB drive. One of the options is still "auto"run. (I own a dual-boot Win 8.1 machine.) http://www.eightforums.com [eightforums.com]
[15:06:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:40] <exec> 08└─Protip: Windows hasn't had autorun since it was patched out of Windows XP. The way they infect the system, which just FYI works just as well on Linux and MacOS
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[16:01:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Still not what I want - 06Google's Daydream VR Headset Reported to Cost $79 - 731 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:01:48] <exec> 08└─I want an affordable, translucent, monocular display that I can use in a wearable computing solution. NOT something that will prevent me walking, driving, working machinery. NOT something that will do all the fancy GPS gyroscopic accelerometer facial recognition AR tricks. NOT something that will tr...
[16:01:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Still not what I want - 06Google's Daydream VR Headset Reported to Cost $79 - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:01:50] <exec> 08└─I want direct connection to the visual cortex, at least 2 channel audio implants, and dopamine injectors for an immersive VR experience.
[16:01:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Daydream VR - 06Google's Daydream VR Headset Reported to Cost $79 - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:01:52] <exec> 08└─That probably won't be the name of the headset since it is the name of the "platform": https://vr.google.com [google.com]
[16:02:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Our Corrupt Media - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:02] <exec> 08└─> Meanwhile, there is actual news going on in the world. The US and Russia might get into a conflict in Syria any day now. > This is right on Israel's northern border. And plenty of other facets to this. Seen them on PBS Newshour, NPR and Vox. But, as has been said before, "reality has a libe...
[16:02:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03rob_on_earth [5485] (Score:2) 02USA only - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:02:06] <exec> 08└─I never understood how everyone in the USA had to abide by software patents but the rest of the world just relied on copyright.
[16:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:USA only - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 0 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:08] <exec> 08└─
[16:02:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:USA only - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:10] <exec> 08└─"They" being corporations and the politicans in their pockets. The people, either don't know, don't care, or if sufficiently educated, do not like them, but as with many problems have no power to change it.
[16:02:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:USA only - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:12] <exec> 08└─Indeed.
[16:02:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Transparency - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 526 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:28] <exec> 08└─Case in point: Roman Catholic Church. It is a transnational, for-profit corporation whose core business is brainwashing children and conditioning them for buying make-belief. It pays no taxes, proudly discriminates against women as an employer, and suffers no financial oversight, citing 2000 year ol...
[16:02:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score:2) 02Re:Transparency - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:29] <exec> 08└─This. You will find that every religion wants to keep their members in the dark. Otherwise, they might accidentally wake up and realize that there is no such thing as "god", and that everything they have been told is a lie created so the powerful can rake in money, molest anyone they want, and sell...
[16:02:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:1) 02Church's response: link - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 3822 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:02:32] <exec> 08└─I'm a Mormon and this is a link to a Church-owned general news source, but I think it can help everybody relax a little. If you understand what's going on, there's not much very interesting there as far as I can tell: http://www.ksl.com [ksl.com] The stuff about how de...
[16:02:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:54] <exec> 08└─The Chinese, some say, disassemble the bodies of executed prisoners.
[16:03:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:05] <exec> 08└─So if it's not blindingly obvious, such that nobody can ever interpret it two different ways, it's all crap and pointless? Gee thanks. You show me a book and I'll show you metaphors in it.
[16:03:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:11] <exec> 08└─You can't just pull a quote out of context and use that as a "proof" of...
[16:03:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:2) 02 - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 3426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:13] <exec> 08└─What's with everybody going to all the irrelevant and obscure passages? Luke 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. Red-letter text, Jesus speaking in a parable in which he's quoting the major character who's a stand-in for...
[16:03:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Quit screwing around and just use nitrogen - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 786 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:23] <exec> 08└─Prediction: Hillary Clinton will win the Presidency and pack the Supreme Court with liberal justices. Then, years down the line, a death penalty case will be heard, and the death penalty itself will be ruled "cruel and unusual punishment". Heck, this could happen with very little change in compositi...
[16:03:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Three LETTERS. Duh. - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:27] <exec> 08└─Neither "dumb" nor "duh" rhymes with "fun"
[16:03:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Three LETTERS. Duh. - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:29] <exec> 08└─Death by bun? Or nun... Or, fittingly, pun. Someone call Gene Shalit.
[16:03:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02gunpowder - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:03:32] <exec> 08└─Aren't bullets cheaper, and their mfrs not pussies?
[16:03:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Opinions, opinions... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 1226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:03:34] <exec> 08└─I can see both sides of this issue, for and against capital punishment. Pro: Prison is not supposed to be about revenge. It is partially punishment (which should be administered objectively, as a deterrent), and partly about rehabilitation. If you have someone who is so dangerous that they can never...
[16:04:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:2) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 4085 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:04:04] <exec> 08└─Absolute speed affects your braking distance. Relative speed DOES NOT. Above 90 your tyres might not even be rated to brake properly. There are diminishing braking returns as you go faster as the tyres and brakes heat EXTREMELY quickly and degrade unless designed for that kind of speed. I've even se...
[16:04:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormreaver [5101] (Score:2) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:04:06] <exec> 08└─[mechanical suitability arguments snipped]
[16:04:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:04:08] <exec> 08└─when the state runs the propaganda machinery it's nearly impossible to convince enough people that they are capable of making any decision in quantities necessary for changing laws.
[16:04:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Safety vs Liberty - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 433 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:04:25] <exec> 08└─typical socialist scum. penalize everybody b/c some people wouldn't make the cut if people were free instead of letting nature take it's course. It's so much safer now that old people have no disincentive for getting out on the highway going 40 mph! Roads and cars aren't for everybody! cars are powe...
[16:04:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02Monetization: - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:04:33] <exec> 08└─"Dear customer: You are exceeding your insurance company speed limit of 45 mph for basic insurance. Should you wish to increase your allowable speed to the maximum government speed limit on this highway of 70 mph, you will automatically be charged full rate if you click here. Else you will be limite...
[16:04:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02article correction - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:04:35] <exec> 08└─title should read "Socialist rats want cars fitted with Variable Maximum Speed Devices "
[16:04:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:2) 02re Deaths - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 733 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:04:37] <exec> 08└─It bothers me that they have no statistics to justify their move and just go on piling on the citizenry stupid laws. From the World Health Organization [who.int] (Warning requires Javascript) we can see that speed limits are the only variable in traffic deaths: Germany, 4.3; Australia, 5.4 in road d...
[16:04:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Rebranding - 06India Ratifies Paris Climate Change Agreement - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:04:53] <exec> 08└─> Climate Change" my arse. There is no climate change. This is "Global Warming" rebranded, You are right. But not the way you think. "Climage change" was the republican rebranding of Global Warming to make it seem less serious. Proof: Memo exposes Bush's new green strategy (2003) [theguardian.com]
[16:05:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Root cause - 06Toyota's $392 Robot Baby for Japanese People Without Companions - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:05:17] <exec> 08└─Japanese men are unable to impregnate their wives / girlfriends due to all the limpmaking squealing / crying noises Japanese women make during sex?
[16:06:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Expands the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis - 06Adaptation to Food Deprivation as a Clue for Treating Metabolic Diseases - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:28] <exec> 08└─DUBNFE (didn't understand, but now fully erect)
[16:10:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Agreed, competition has costs; see also... - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 3849 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:30] <exec> 08└─...this list of 50 work-making strategies, many negative: http://pdfernhout.net [pdfernhout.net] "Here is a list of possible ways to deal with joblessness. Some "cures" emerge mostly on their own; some require political action to start or to prevent. This list is...
[16:12:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The criticism against GitHub is nonsensical. - 06Why Kernel Development Still Uses Email - 436 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:11] <exec> 08└─I get the stuff hosted yourself, but you said "We use GitHub as the authoritative repo for a number of sub projects (e.g. the packaging system)." So if people want to contribute to that area, then they are forced to use Github (and git for real power over commits). Perhaps I am missing something sti...
[16:12:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Editors - 06Why Kernel Development Still Uses Email - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:12:18] <exec> 08└─This is a great article and all but it looks like it's an LWN subscriber link. Is it ok/appropriate to post this link?
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[17:02:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"Can't we just drone this guy?" - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:02:00] <exec> 08└─Imagine if Trump said this! The main stream news outlets would be on it like white on rice, 24/7.
[17:02:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03 (Score:2) 02@Takyon: Thanks for great context :-) - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:02:01] <exec> 08└─Good editorial work, I didn't see that article (Reuters) before.
[17:02:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilPapa [2366] (Score:2) 02Re:Still not what I want - 06Google's Daydream VR Headset Reported to Cost $79 - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:11] <exec> 08└─I want an affordable, translucent, monocular display that I can use in a wearable computing solution.
[17:02:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Still not what I want - 06Google's Daydream VR Headset Reported to Cost $79 - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:14] <exec> 08└─Google glass was supposed to be that but as usual, Google lost interest in that project.
[17:02:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Still not what I want - 06Google's Daydream VR Headset Reported to Cost $79 - 635 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:16] <exec> 08└─No. Google Glass wasn't supposed to be anything like that. It didn't have a generic interface that one could connect to an arbitrary wearable solution. It had that really stupid camera add-on. It had its own display logic trying to act like a smartphone screen. It had that stupid voice recognition t...
[17:02:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Our Corrupt Media - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:28] <exec> 08└─I realized that the government had control of the media.
[17:02:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Our Corrupt Media - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:30] <exec> 08└─How many people besides your colleagues do you know, that would actually care? My wife might listen with polite interest, my dad might show some vague interest, but other than that I'd have to visit some computer club or FSF meetings to find someone with honest interest...
[17:02:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Our Corrupt Media - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:32] <exec> 08└─This kind of thing is why I wish Groklaw was still running...
[17:02:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03SecurityGuy [1453] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Shockingly naive, IMO - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:02:40] <exec> 08└─“Software lies in the antechamber of patentable invention. Because generically-implemented software is an “idea” insufficiently linked to any defining physical structure other than a standard computer, it is a precursor to technology rather than technology itself,” he writes.
[17:02:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''a computer is technology, but software is not'' - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 409 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:42] <exec> 08└─I've heard writing software compared to writing an assembly procedure for a piece of pre-fab furniture (a concept which is clearly not patentable). Another argument says that rearranging a list of existing instructions is not a creative act (in line with writing a shopping list). The double coverage...
[17:02:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03WizardFusion [498] 02The God Delusion - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 127 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:02:53] <exec> 08└─"When one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion."
[17:02:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:2, Informative) 02education, honesty, work & service are encouraged - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:57] <exec> 08└─Education, honesty, kindness to others, service to others, and work are much encouraged in the Church. We hope that makes a positive, helpful difference wherever we may be, in spite of all our individual faults.
[17:02:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:mormons mormons everywhere ! ! ! - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:59] <exec> 08└─The Associated Press reported in the early 1980s that “The CIA does some of its most successful recruiting in predominantly LDS Utah.”
[17:03:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:re Interesting - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:02] <exec> 08└─I will take a look at your link/timestamp, thanks.
[17:03:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:1) 02Re:Transparency - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:09] <exec> 08└─As a lifelong member, it's nothing like this. If you looked really closely at the internals by getting acquainted, you'd find out differently too. There is much information provided by the Church, or you can ask members yourself easily enough. Get to know some instead of making such awful claims.
[17:03:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:1) 02Re:Transparency - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:11] <exec> 08└─ps: of course, any organization with 16 million members is going to have some oddballs.
[17:03:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score:2) 02Re:Transparency - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:13] <exec> 08└─Post a link to spending information. Or revenue information. Or profit information. No such information has ever been disclosed. They in fact sue journalists & their sources for leaking financial info. I didn't say anything awful, just basic facts easily checked by anyone. What RPC does to women is...
[17:03:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Transparency - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 847 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:16] <exec> 08└─Awful claims? As someone who was raised a member and became a non-believer, I can comfortably say that the church is an awful closed-minded fraternity with nothing to offer. Same goes for every other religious fairy tale nonsense. It's 2016. Religion has run its course. It's time to get our heads ou...
[17:03:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:Transparency - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:18] <exec> 08└─you are correct: secrecy ALWAYS breeds corruption...
[17:03:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Transparency - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:20] <exec> 08└─you are correct: secrecy ALWAYS breeds corruption...
[17:03:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Speaking of troubling things... - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:23] <exec> 08└─That video was from early 2009, just after he left office, so I guess past tense would have been better. You win the grammar nitpick war of the day!
[17:03:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:2) 02Re:Church's response: link - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:26] <exec> 08└─I'm not going to prove anything to anyone
[17:03:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Be my guest - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:03:28] <exec> 08└─justifies the Iraq War by claiming that it will allow Mormon missionaries access to Middle Eastern nations.
[17:03:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:51] <exec> 08└─It's unfortunate that the various marijuana referenda didn't pass in Ohio
[17:04:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:04:11] <exec> 08└─So-called "pro-life" people are always anti-social safety nets, anti-refugee, and pro-execution. How exactly is that "pro-life" when you're actively working to kill other people and supporting positions that result in many deaths? A clump of fucking cells is not a human, but then if it was they'd be...
[17:04:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Quit screwing around and just use nitrogen - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:04:19] <exec> 08└─Its really not that easy to die from a heroin overdose. Believe me, I've tried. Now fentanyl, the adulterant in heroin thats killing people, thats another story.
[17:04:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Opinions, opinions... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:04:28] <exec> 08└─Regardless, if you're going to do it, do it right. The botched executions in the US are just bizarre. ... What's the problem?
[17:04:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:04:48] <exec> 08└─OTOH, the police will speed when it's relevant, but usually not when they're heading to the scene of a crime. The times they speed are usually when chasing somebody down and even then they're usually discouraged from going too much above the speed limit.
[17:05:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score:2) 02Re:India - 06India Ratifies Paris Climate Change Agreement - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:05:40] <exec> 08└─Well, another use for Pu is as a driver/seed in a thorium-reactor (or any breeder) - which India has stated it plans on doing. Might also be worth pointing out that india has put 14 of their reactors under safeguards in the last seven years - 12 of those has online-refuelling... And they still have...
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[18:01:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Can't we just drone this guy?" - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:01:55] <exec> 08└─Trump tends to focus on ethnic groups rather than just individuals.
[18:01:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Can't we just drone this guy?" - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:01:56] <exec> 08└─Trump tends to focus on ethnic groups rather than just individuals.
[18:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:"Can't we just drone this guy?" - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 488 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:01:58] <exec> 08└─For 12 hours, until the next thing came out of his mouth and displaced it, only to be forgotten 12 hours later when the next next thing became "news". Rinse, repeat... Fox and the others would spend those 12 hours repeating that Assange is a traitor endangering Our Fighting Heroes and therefore shou...
[18:02:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02So which is it? - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:02] <exec> 08└─"Can't we just drone this guy?" Clinton openly inquired... Isn't this exactly opposite her whole "That is not the right temperament to be commander-in-chief" and "not the right temperament" arguments against Trump? Pity the American public. Their choice is between an liar/thief and a moron.
[18:02:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:So which is it? - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:04] <exec> 08└─It's not contradicting. She'd be a cold-blooded killer rather than an egoma 1ff6 niac on a rampage. Not much of a choice, but as I stated before, I trust she knows when the world burns, USA burns with it. I still think she'd be the lesser desaster in comparison. Why does the better choice still have...
[18:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So which is it? - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:06] <exec> 08└─I think the moron would be a better choice. People would question and delay every controversial move and try to steer him in a different direction. And perhaps people would have better options in some time. I trust the fool far more....
[18:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So which is it? - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:08] <exec> 08└─> "Can't we just drone this guy?" Clinton openly inquired... Isn't this exactly opposite her whole "That is not the right temperament to be commander-in-chief" Which is why its reported by website with no credibility citing an anonymous source. Come on, why are soy beaners so damn gullible?
[18:02:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:So which is it? - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 429 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:10] <exec> 08└─Can't we just drone Putin? Can't we just drone Kim il whatever? Can't we just drone Trump and Pence (or whoever)? Can't we just drone Bill? I mean, he did cheat on me! Can't we just drone anyone I don't like? This isn't Pizza Pizza, wanting to drone a pizza... this is a 'human' wanting to drone kill...
[18:02:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Interesting) 02Fear... - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 601 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:13] <exec> 08└─We all live in fear, it is the most twisted psychological warfare tactic. At the very least those in power have become comfortable enough to say shit like this and let everyone know what kinds of people they really are. Sure this shit has happened before, but generally behind closed doors. To have t...
[18:02:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fear... - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:15] <exec> 08└─So, after two centuries we are finally waking up, but will a better system arise from the ashes?
[18:02:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Shining light where it's needed - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:17] <exec> 08└─While both candidates are somewhat controversial, the current leaks seem to be quite focused on the democrats candidate, Hillary Clinton.
[18:02:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Is that really true? - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:19] <exec> 08└─RE: but it seems rather clear that Trump is crazy Is that really true? You know, I'll think for myself, thank you. 2016: HILLARY! for prison
[18:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shining light where it's needed - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:21] <exec> 08└─She blatantly asked if she could use military equipment to execute a citizen of an allied nation living in another allied nation's capital because she doesn't like him poking his nose where she thinks it shouldn't be. She could be the Commander in Chief of the most well-funded military in the histor...
[18:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shining light where it's needed - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:23] <exec> 08└─living in another allied nation's capital
[18:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03fubari [4551] (Score:1) 02can't imagine... - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:26] <exec> 08└─"Can't we just drone this guy?" Clinton openly inquired
[18:02:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Wikileaks is releasing what it has - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:28] <exec> 08└─Wikileaks is releasing what it has. It had something about Clinton so they released that. Maybe it came from the Russians, but Wikileaks is carefully set up so they don't know where its information comes from. If they have anything on Trump I'm sure they would be happy to release that.
[18:02:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Wikileaks is releasing what it has - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:30] <exec> 08└─Despite some outlets being disappointed by the non-release anniversary announcement/book promotion early this morning, it seems that Wikileaks still has a chance to release something interesting before the election. There was a reference to ten weeks of releases, as well as getting election-related...
[18:02:51] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DannyB [5839] 02Re:Our Corrupt Media - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 1858 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:51] <exec> 08└─Remember when no major news outlet covered SOPA? It was being widely discussed online. It was an existential threat to the freedom of the internet. Not a peep. But then some major web sites had black pages for a day, explaining what SOPA was. Suddenly many congress critters in support were distancin...
[18:02:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''on PBS Newshour, NPR and Vox'' - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 494 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:53] <exec> 08└─Coverage by PBS and NPR is reassuring. Too often, in order to please their sponsors and potential sponsors, those outlets avoid topics that aren't corporate-friendly. I expect "Digital Village" on my Pacifica Radio affiliate to cover it. (Now airing on Wednesday evenings instead of Saturday mornings...
[18:02:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02We Have a Winner! - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:58] <exec> 08└─Thanks man. So far you are the only one not to be suckered in by my troll post. Seriously, I didn't even realize I was trolling. I expected people to laugh and get the joke. [soylentnews.org] God damn soy beaners are so fucking gullible. Its pathetic.
[18:03:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03fubari [4551] (Score:1) 02copyright Re:''a computer is technology, but so... - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:03:09] <exec> 08└─Yeah, copyright seems like a good way to go. Excerpt from the fine article: He (Judge Mayer) adds that, because software is basically a form of language, its intellectual property protection should be limited to copyright — which covers things like musics and books—rather than patents.
[18:03:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''TFA is pretty freaking amazing'' - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 538 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:03:11] <exec> 08└─Roy Schestowitz used to be a regular at comp.os.linux.advocacy. [os.linux.advocacy] He has since gotten his PhD in CS and found himself a hot wife (who is also a CS pro). He's still the hardest-working guy you are likely to find, doing his day job plus trying to keep folks informed about FOSS and an...
[18:03:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Shockingly naive, IMO - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:03:13] <exec> 08└─Currently, because someone got to the patent office 5 minutes before you did. Why indeed should you not be able to use all of your effort because someone else got the patent first, largely because of chance events? So what would you say is the last time someone did anything on a computer that was so...
[18:03:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:education, honesty, work & service are encourag - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 941 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:03:26] <exec> 08└─Sure... Education, as long as it doesn't make you doubt Mormonism's bizarre foundation myths. (Mormons are young-Earth creationists [reddit.com] who believe in archaeological fringe theories [wikipedia.org] about the population of the Americas.) Honesty, as long as the church's interests are protect...
[18:03:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03fliptop [1666] (Score:2) 02Re:Transparency - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:03:39] <exec> 08└─Post a link to spending information. Or revenue information. Or profit information.
[18:03:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:1) 02Re:Transparency - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:03:41] <exec> 08└─My experience has been (a lot of work but) wonderful really, in the literal sense. I'm sorry for whatever happened, and wish you all the best in everything.
[18:03:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03fliptop [1666] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Transparency - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:03:43] <exec> 08└─As a lifelong member, it's nothing like this
[18:03:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:2, Interesting) 02the faith part - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 1524 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:03:51] <exec> 08└─Thanks: I think you have well-described a common misconception. I think we agree that blindly following any 2000 thing would be extremely risky, and a time when it would be a good idea is hard to think of. Faith, in my experience, doesn't mean that at all. It means that based on repeatable personal...
[18:03:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:0, Troll) 02Re:Church's response: link - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 379 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:03:54] <exec> 08└─ps: it's like describing the taste of salt. You really have to experience it for yourself to know. I would have no idea how to do it without using the world "salt" anywhere. And doing it yourself requires action, in this case, like reading the Book of Mormon and asking God sincerely to help you know...
[18:03:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:2) 02Re:Church's response: link - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 2547 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:03:56] <exec> 08└─Sorry, but that's a textbook example of a bait-and-switch. "Personal experience" can, indeed, give you visceral knowledge of the taste of salt. But you don't need to taste salt to know that it's a white crystalline substance with the chemical formula NaCl, that it's soluble (and ionic) in water, tha...
[18:03:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] ( 4bcb Score:1) 02what I know - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:03:58] <exec> 08└─I've got consistent answers and results, and peace amid really hard experiences of life. You can too. (And I'll plan to raise the priority of my Quran reading, thanks for your suggestion :)
[18:03:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:2) 02Re:what I know - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:00] <exec> 08└─I've got consistent answers and results, and peace amid really hard experiences of life.
[18:04:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:1) 02Re:what I know - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:02] <exec> 08└─Actually, I am often delighted about how consistent it is with reality and ongoing scientific development. It all works. And when it seems not to, I just wait and things sort themselves out. Lots of times science changes (dietary & psychology come to mind...), and it's OK, we are still learning.
[18:04:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Church's response: link - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 552 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:04] <exec> 08└─Humans don't normally communicate using taste. There is an entire area of science based around taste/smell. The food industry depends on that, and they certainly can communicate that information to those that need it. You probably think that lemon-lime beverage is flavored with real lemons and limes...
[18:04:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Church's response: link - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:07] <exec> 08└─and we are definitely better off & happier
[18:04:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:2, Touché) 02Re:Church's response: link - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 809 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:09] <exec> 08└─Ah, Karl Marx's ideas really don't seem to make people happier as far as I can tell. (I have studied communism and know a little Russian; majored in their history, for a while and had a whole semester class on Josef Stalin at a midwestern university, had a Russian coworker, etc. My mother knows Chin...
[18:04:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Church's response: link - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 2715 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:11] <exec> 08└─Whoever is leaking the videos and documents is (or was) also a church employee and they seem to disagree with you about how well things are run. And while the general organization of the Mormon church may be well known, the high-level decision making and finances are shrouded in secrecy. That's unde...
[18:04:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:42] <exec> 08└─What is the value of a life? History suggests that it is one of the cheapest of commodities. I know that enough people simply waste their own lives, they must be cheap. Guilty or not, it is pretty obvious that the condemned has made some serious mistakes to get where he is. Darwin would probably dis...
[18:04:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:43] <exec> 08└─Yet, I'll bet you place a very high value on your own and those of your immediate family.
[18:04:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:45] <exec> 08└─I place greater and lesser value on the lives of various members of my family. Some members of the family are total wastes of oxygen, other members are near saints. And, my own personal valuation of any particular life has little to no bearing on the value of a life to society, to the government, or...
[18:04:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:47] <exec> 08└─And, my own personal valuation of any particular life has little to no bearing on the value of a life to society, to the government, or to the universe.
[18:04:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 451 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:57] <exec> 08└─You're kinda missing an important point. God the Father may or may not be a barbaric thug, but christians rely on Jesus, the Son, as their saviour. I don't want to get into the whole split personality thing, with the trinity and all, but at the very least, the Son and the Father are different faces...
[18:05:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:05:02] <exec> 08└─Render unto Caesar that which is Ceasar's. Your constitution (if you're American) states that you owe years of service to your government. By law, you are a member of the Militia from age 18 until about age 40, whether you ever sign into a formal military organization. The government lays claim to y...
[18:05:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:05:05] <exec> 08└─I heard that. You've taken my name in vain. May you awaken tomorrow with the fleas of 1000 Muslim camels infesting your armpits. Now the problem with your claim about me is, I don't think I've EVER used the Bible to condemn Islam. The murderous pedophile who founded the religion at swordpoint said p...
[18:05:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02No it doesn't! - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:05:08] <exec> 08└─The commandment is more properly translated, "Thou shalt do no murder". https://winteryknight.com [winteryknight.com] That mistranslation in the KJV has confused a lot of people. There is no "thou shalt not kill" in the Hebr...
[18:05:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:05:13] <exec> 08└─That "dichotomy" you mention is really very simple. The aborted baby is innocent of all wrongdoing. The guy on death row had been judged, and found guilty. Guilt. That's it in a nutshell.
[18:05:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Quit screwing around and just use nitrogen - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:05:23] <exec> 08└─if we really want to give someone an injection that will kill them: Heroine.
[18:05:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Opinions, opinions... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:05:34] <exec> 08└─Once you realize that the sick fucking authoritarians that are in favor of executions want people to suffer, it all makes sense.
[18:05:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Opinions, opinions... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:05:36] <exec> 08└─Except for those who end up exonerated, sometimes posthumously.
[18:05:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:Opinions, opinions... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 461 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:05:38] <exec> 08└─I can see both sides of this issue, for and against capital punishment. Pro: Prison is not supposed to be about revenge. It is partially punishment (which should be administered objectively, as a deterrent), and partly about rehabilitation. If you have someone who is so dangerous that they can never...
[18:05:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Opinions, opinions... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:05:40] <exec> 08└─Con: We have an alarmingly high rate of false convictions. You can't un-kill someone.
[18:05:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:05:58] <exec> 08└─You must be joking - they do not accept 911 here.
[18:06:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03stormreaver [5101] 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 76 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:06:09] <exec> 08└─The irrefutable evidence that speeding is the primary cause of accidents....
[18:06:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score:1) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:06:15] <exec> 08└─I believe it's 3 seconds. You need a full second to react and get your foot on the brake pedal. The other 2 seconds assume the vehicle's brakes are in pristine condition and proba 1ff6 bly equipped with ABS. At 60mph you only got 176 feet to stop without hitting anything.
[18:06:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:06:17] <exec> 08└─+1 it's 3 seconds
[18:06:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:2) 02nonconformist law-abiding drivers - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:06:22] <exec> 08└─It is dangerous to go at a speed significantly different fro the traffic around you.
[18:06:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:2) 02Tailgaters - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:06:24] <exec> 08└─How can you pull away from that crazy driver behind you? If someone slowly creeps up on you and is tailgating you'll never be able to pull ahead to a safe distance.
[18:06:34] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] 02Re:Safety vs Liberty - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 143 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:06:35] <exec> 08└─It's an anti-male movement because males get more speeding tickets, or get in school fights, or whatever we're having zero-tolerance for today.
[18:06:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hawkwind [3531] (Score:2) 02Re:Safety vs Liberty - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:06:38] <exec> 08└─Enforcing the law is fascist now?
[18:07:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Realism? - 06Toyota's $392 Robot Baby for Japanese People Without Companions - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:07:24] <exec> 08└─My Life as a Teenage Robot?
[18:07:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:Root cause - 06Toyota's $392 Robot Baby for Japanese People Without Companions - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:30] <exec> 08└─>Japanese men are unable to impregnate their wives / girlfriends due to all the limpmaking squealing / crying noises Japanese women make during sex? (according to porn) I think is rather more of a dimensionality issue.
[18:09:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:24] <exec> 08└─They want it because they've been educated to want it. It's also much more convenient to enter a house without first needing to unlock it. Yet I'm not aware of people demanding no-lock front doors.
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[19:02:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03weeds [611] (Score:2) 02Re:"Can't we just drone this guy?" - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:16] <exec> 08└─Please mention it.
[19:02:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:"Can't we just drone this guy?" - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:18] <exec> 08└─Hillary tends to focus on killing everyone against her..... "if your not with us, your again' us!" Hillary will do ANYTHING for power. Drones, bullets, bombs, freak smiles during a debate..... Stay safe Jullian... keep on bringing it, but keep your head down.
[19:02:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:"Can't we just drone this guy?" - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:22] <exec> 08└─And Cyber! A lot of it! It will be a Cyber wall! We will mix Cyber and concret, the best concrete that anyway, and Mexico as well!
[19:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Can't we just drone this guy?" - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:24] <exec> 08└─To be fair, "cyber" this and "cyber" that is current military-industrial complex jargon.
[19:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:"Can't we just drone this guy?" - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:26] <exec> 08└─Me thinks single malt scotch typed this :)
[19:02:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Can't we just drone this guy?" - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:28] <exec> 08└─The New York Times Accurately Portrays Hillary Clinton as an Unrepentant Warmonger http://reason.com [reason.com]
[19:02:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score:2) 02Re:"Can't we just drone this guy?" - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:31] <exec> 08└─A sudden moderation of Trump's "can't we just nuke this guy's whole country?" approach to foreign irritations would be worth commenting on.
[19:02:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:So which is it? - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 1061 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:37] <exec> 08└─Uh, No. I don't trust a fool with the button. Someone who sitting on their golden toilet bowl at 3 AM on FaceTwit deciding to nuke someone because he is offended by reality and that other people have different opinions. Or they said something bad about me. Or they replayed what I said -- which is en...
[19:02:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So which is it? - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:39] <exec> 08└─Enough of this partisan "I would rather..." bullshit. If you play that game, you've already failed and fallen for the scam.
[19:02:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:So which is it? - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 769 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:41] <exec> 08└─You would rather have a dooooooooof who would drone her enemies in a second in control, then a dooooooooof who is not allowed to push a button if his life depended on it? He can't just push a button and start a nuclear war! He can't do that unilaterally... Damn, vote Hillary, and watch the world go...
[19:02:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:So which is it? - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 428 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:02:43] <exec> 08└─She has people who owe her, and will do as she says, whereas he has no friends in Washington and he couldn't do anything if he wanted to. The middle East is burning and she is a part of that... so obviously, she doesn't know SHIT! She is NOT the better choice... Stein, maybe, but not fucking Hillary...
[19:02:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02No evidence she ever said any such thing - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 687 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:49] <exec> 08└─At the very least those in power have become comfortable enough to say shit like this and let everyone know what kinds of people they really are. Except there's absolutely no evidence she ever said any such thing. It's nothing more than yet 1ff6 another baseless accusation that will probably, like...
[19:02:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No evidence she ever said any such thing - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 909 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:52] <exec> 08└─Alt-right: wants sodomy and bathroom laws, wants their religion's commandments posted outside of the court house, wants to lynch blacks if they get uppity, wants women back in the kitchen making babies so the moooooooooslims don't win the womb war, wants to double down on doubling down on doubling d...
[19:02:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Their followers are united and indistinguishable - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 654 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:54] <exec> 08└─I don't see what these viewpoints have in common. The three groups are pretty unified in trying to get a malignant narcissist (Donald Trump) elected to office. Yes, the libertarian party has a candidate, but most libertarians I know are voting for Trump (a few thankfully not). If we judge a group's...
[19:02:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:No evidence she ever said any such thing - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 569 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:56] <exec> 08└─Except if you follow her, this is exactly the kind of thing she does! She is looking for power ABOVE ALL! Fuck Hillary... your problem is "fuck Trump" as well. But if I were American, i'd vote for the clown (Trump) over the serious, psychotic serial killer (Hillary.... duh)! Better the town drunk th...
[19:02:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03quintessence [6227] (Score:2) 02Re:Fear... - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:58] <exec> 08└─but will a better system arise from the ashes?
[19:02:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Fear... - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:00] <exec> 08└─Intelligence tests maybe? I know that idea is loaded, because what would the test be and what qualifies as intelligence. That alone can start all sorts of flamewars.
[19:03:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03quintessence [6227] (Score:2) 02Re:Fear... - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:02] <exec> 08└─One of the things studies have pointed to is that individual intelligence is less important than group intelligence (hence citizen juries), not to mention trustworthiness is a more important trait than intelligence in administration. Put another way, do you had any doubt that Clinton or Trump are in...
[19:03:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Is that really true? - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:07] <exec> 08└─Yes, it is really true. How far would he have to go to convince you? Is there a crazy line somewhere, anywhere that he could or has already crossed? Now, please don't think I'm exactly thrilled with Hillary as the alternative. But I don't believe she is actually crazy.
[19:03:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Shining light where it's needed - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:11] <exec> 08└─Hey, you don't need to convince me. I'm planning to vote third party. A lot of people really hate Hillary but don't seem to have concrete reasons for it when I want to hear them. This is a pretty concrete one :P
[19:03:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Shining light where it's needed - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 549 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:13] <exec> 08└─Same shit different day. If this is some sort of surprise for you... well... umm ya dunno what to tell you. Obama made a joke about droning some kid dating his daughter, Trump wanted to know why we can't just nuke the middle east, and I don't have details offhand but I'm pretty sure most presidents...
[19:03:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Shining light where it's needed - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:15] <exec> 08└─Regan: we start bombing in five minutes. (Or something like that.)
[19:03:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02This isn't data, it is unsubstantiated nonsense - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 1733 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:17] <exec> 08└─What's less clear is how Clinton compares, so more data about bad things Hillary has done is more useful. Except there is NO DATA, only unsubstantiated allegations. She's had 25+ years of unsubstantiated allegations like this, all of which have been debunked (at a cost of over $100,000,000 in public...
[19:03:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Wikileaks is releasing what it has - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 1086 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:22] <exec> 08└─Look I probably will vote for the guy. TPP is my 'to die on' hill, it is becoming increasing clear to me we do not need another NAFTA. I had that opinion long before Trump came into the picture. That Haiti thing was slimy as hell too. Assange may or may not have anything. It does not mater. It will...
[19:03:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wikileaks is releasing what it has - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 508 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:25] <exec> 08└─> He is about uncovering people hiding things that hurt others. Nice theory. Not the reality. Wikileaks promoted a bunch of utterly mundane emails, [techdirt.com] mundane except for the fact that the info put regular people at risk. > He has stated he does have stuff from the GOP. He says it is the...
[19:03:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Thinly sourced quote - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:03:27] <exec> 08└─True Pundit says nothing about the source of this quote. It could well be made up.
[19:03:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Decoys - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:03:29] <exec> 08└─Instead of asking "Can't we just drone this guy?", Clinton really asked, "Can't we just troll this guy with decoys?" decoy = undercover female cop
[19:03:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Still not what I want - 06Google's Daydream VR Headset Reported to Cost $79 - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:41] <exec> 08└─Can't you simulate that for testing purposes by buying a pirates eyepatch and a Wyse-55 serial terminal with a really long keyboard extension cable?
[19:03:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02$15 viewmaster VR - 06Google's Daydream VR Headset Reported to Cost $79 - 1926 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:03:43] <exec> 08└─Its the $15 viewmaster VR bundled with a bluetooth wii controller-ish thingy for $70 or $80. the article is helpfully unclear. Probably $10 shipping. I have the viewmaster VR and used it with my nexus 6p for at least an hour before I tired of it. At $15/hour that's not ridiculous but not cheap eithe...
[19:03:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Our Corrupt Media - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:55] <exec> 08└─One case recently I think it was Chris Matthews interviewing one of the main people in the Sanders campaign, flat out admitted (with no apparent awareness this was even objectionable) that the press consciously worked against him.
[19:04:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Our Corrupt Media - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:04:00] <exec> 08└─Good point. I was focused on "government access" type of control over the media. aka blackmail. The Snowden coverage I pointed out. But money / ownership type control is also quite real. The SOPA coverage, or lack of, that I pointed out.
[19:04:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:We Have a Winner! - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:04:04] <exec> 08└─Funny how all the networks crying about how Donald Trump cannot possibly be trusted are doing a great job proving why they themselves are unworthy of trust.
[19:04:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Our Corrupt Media - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:04:07] <exec> 08└─Amen to that. But PJ has definitely put in her time and effort. I don't begrudge her getting burned out on it. It's never ending. Only the SCOundrels change.
[19:04:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03SecurityGuy [1453] (Score:2) 02Re:''a computer is technology, but software is not - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 631 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:04:18] <exec> 08└─To me, that's like the argument that Microsoft Office isn't copyrightable because it can be represented as a number (albeit an incredibly large one). I think that line of argument is basically reductio ad absurdum. Having written software and assembled pre-fab furniture, they're not at all the same...
[19:04:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03SecurityGuy [1453] (Score:2) 02Re:Shockingly naive, IMO - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:04:20] <exec> 08└─Currently, because someone got to the patent office 5 minutes before you did. Why indeed should you not be able to use all of your effort because someone else got the patent first, largely because of chance events?
[19:04:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shockingly naive, IMO - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 708 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:04:23] <exec> 08└─Complex software can include tens of millions of lines of code or more, and it is impossible to know how many software patents you're infringing upon given such a large project. Even small projects are subject to this, since no one is going to know about every patent in existence and it's easy to wr...
[19:04:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shockingly naive, IMO - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:04:25] <exec> 08└─And, if in the course of writing those millions of lines of code you can accidentally infringe on multiple patents, then how the hell can they be worth patenting?
[19:04:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Shockingly naive, IMO - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 3371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:04:27] <exec> 08└─I agree that software is technology. But software does not deserve patent protection. Copyright protection is fitting. Someone should not be able to rip off your work. But you should not be able to exclude someone from doing their own work, their own implementation. Most new software gets the reacti...
[19:04:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ledow [5567] 02Transparency - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 1055 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:04:45] <exec> 08└─Any group that doesn't want you to know how it operates is going to be: a) A group that EVERYONE should know how it operates. b) A group that you don't want to be a part of if you have an ounce of morals. c) A group that should receive special attention in regards to taxation, employment and other l...
[19:04:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The way of the Jesuits (Catholic Society of Jesus) - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:04:56] <exec> 08└─"Give me a boy until the age of seven and I will give you the man." IOW, get them drinking the kool-aid early and they're yours for life. Seems to apply to you. -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
[19:04:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02teaching kids to be honest, respectful Christians - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 373 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:04:59] <exec> 08└─...and that anyone who doesn't live his life by the Nicene Creed[1] will burn in Hell for all eternity. [1] Fabricated by the Romans, BTW, in order to use the Christian religion as a unifying construct for the empire. -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org] (who spent 4th grade in Catholic school--a sur...
[19:05:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Transparency - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:01] <exec> 08└─“There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate The Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be.” ― Fulton J. Sheen
[19:05:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Transparency - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:05] <exec> 08└─If schools are required to have things like parents on their board (in the UK, don't know how it operates elsewhere), independent governors, audits and oversight, why aren't religious groups that host children's activities - including babysitting, creche facilities, or activities offered in churches...
[19:05:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:2) 02Re:what I know - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 2873 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:16] <exec> 08└─Still missing the point. Star Trek is, too, just as often "consistent" with reality and ongoing scientific development. The original series had communicators that resembled flip phones decades before any public wireless telephone system existed. They had automatic sliding doors now ubiquitous in sup...
[19:05:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:1) 02Re:what I know - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 1968 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:17] <exec> 08└─You make intelligent arguments and I respect them. I really, really hope I don't make anyone nervous around me; if I do, I would want to fix that by being a better, kinder person. All your questions have answers. If you find some Mormon missionaries (or w/ online chats at mormon.org) they can answer...
[19:05:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:2) 02Re:what I know - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:19] <exec> 08└─All your questions have answers.
[19:05:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheSouthernDandy [6059] (Score:1) 02Re:Church's response: link - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:21] <exec> 08└─The parent comment (b&'s) is really beautifully written. I know such frivolous observations aren't commonly offered on message boards, especially in discussions about religion, but thank you.
[19:05:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:1) 02Re:Church's response: link - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:25] <exec> 08└─Nah, everything I'm saying is that you have to look closer to know.
[19:05:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Be my guest - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:31] <exec> 08└─Wait I think I recall reading about what Islam says should be done to missionaries... I just don't recall "off the top of my head..." Maybe someone can remind me.
[19:05:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Apostles - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:05:33] <exec> 08└─The real Apostles: https://www.yakimawa.gov [yakimawa.gov]
[19:06:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:06:13] <exec> 08└─So if it's not blindingly obvious, such that nobody can ever interpret it two different ways, it's all crap and pointless? Gee thanks.
[19:06:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:06:16] <exec> 08└─I don't see why that's important. God - the supposed creator of everything - is portrayed as a murderous thug in the bible. You can't pretend that the god of the bible is totally irrelevant, and Christians talk about him all the time. It's not as if the bible claims that Jesus saved everyone by dest...
[19:06:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:06:26] <exec> 08└─What's with everybody going to all the irrelevant and obscure passages? Luke 19:27
[19:07:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:05] <exec> 08└─OTOH, the police will speed when it's relevant, but usually not when they're heading to the scene of a crime. The times they speed are usually when chasing somebody down and even then they're usually discouraged from going too much above the speed limit.
[19:08:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:It's not that close - 06India Ratifies Paris Climate Change Agreement - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:01] <exec> 08└─It's not worth replying, particularly to an AC making this argument.
[19:08:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:WCPGW? - 06Toyota's $392 Robot Baby for Japanese People Without Companions - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:22] <exec> 08└─"lets have them all kill themselves in car accidents because they're paying attention to something cute rather than the road" technique
[19:08:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:WCPGW? - 06Toyota's $392 Robot Baby for Japanese People Without Companions - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:23] <exec> 08└─The existence of a demographic which does something dumb is not, and has never been, any kind of justification for the creation of a different demographic doing the same dumb thing.
[19:08:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Root cause - 06Toyota's $392 Robot Baby for Japanese People Without Companions - 1408 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:33] <exec> 08└─Japan is overcrowded, so the limitation isn't a fallacy the way it would be if there were lots of open space. When I lived there in the 1950's most people seemed to be "overworked", but not unhappy. This is no in-depth analysis. I was a pre-teen, and most people I saw were working in small companies...
[19:08:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02immigrants - 06Toyota's $392 Robot Baby for Japanese People Without Companions - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:35] <exec> 08└─they're getting a lot of immigrants doing construction work. apparently japanese are not willing to take the jobs; the news has been talking about them having a labor shortage in the construction industry. it seems with their fine educations, they will not deign to do mere blue collar work.
[19:09:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Causes - 06One of the Data Recorders from the Sept. 29th Hoboken Train Crash Didn't Work - 1075 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:09:14] <exec> 08└─Leaving aside the fact that the root cause is "total inability to run a railroad", the description sounds a lot like the "Moorgate disaster" in the UK in about 1980. Not sure of the official version, but people working on the railway at the time described it thusly: The driver - massively deprived o...
[19:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:Blame the Victim - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:08] <exec> 08└─That started in earnest after the Sony-BMG rootkit scandal [wikipedia.org] The Sony virus got a "pass" because, well I would be speculating to say exactly why. People learned that anti-virus software does not protect them in many cases. You need anti-malware as well because semantics.
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[20:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hawkwind [3531] (Score:2) 02UK - 06Nobel in Physics for Secrets of Exotic Matter - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:02:08] <exec> 08└─Came across the bit that all three are from the UK [insidehighered.com] and now work in the US.
[20:02:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Can't we just drone this guy?" - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 1359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:33] <exec> 08└─"Imagine if Trump said this! The main stream news outlets would be on it like white on rice, 24/7." Exactly this. It also answers the question: "While both candidates are somewhat controversial, the current leaks seem to be quite focused on the democrats candidate, Hillary Clinton." Its not because...
[20:02:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward 1000 (Score:0) 02Shitty Editorial Work - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 769 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:36] <exec> 08└─What exactly does the reuters article add to the original story? The original story is from a totally nutty conspiracy site. Posting it is an abandonment of editorial duties. Its the same site that runs stories like: Sellout: Bernie Sanders OK with Hillary Clinton caught disparaging his voters [true...
[20:02:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So which is it? - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:44] <exec> 08└─Moron isn't doing Philippines so well right now. I'll stick to predictable. Hillary isn't my choice but we have a history with her which hasn't been all that bad for me. I don't want her as a friend though.
[20:02:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So which is it? - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:46] <exec> 08└─Hillary supports mass surveillance, supports no-fly lists, supports the Patriot Act, supports the TSA, and supports countless similar unconstitutional nonsense, and you claim she "hasn't been all that bad"? Oh, for you. It's all about you. Trump isn't any better on those issues, either.
[20:02:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So which is it? - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:49] <exec> 08└─If you must, drone her on her next debate... Two birds with one stone? Maybe with this election her alleged precarious health condition could count in her favour. Who would be most likely vice president? Or, could she be vice-president when Trump is elected president? She would drone him and get a h...
[20:02:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:So which is it? - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 533 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:53] <exec> 08└─The best part is the dems who disliked Hillary, and in some cases hated her, and who voted Sanders are now clamoring to vote for her because Trump cant win. Whats worse, if Hillary does win, the Trump camp will shit its collective pants and we will have an even bigger divide to fight across to get a...
[20:03:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:No evidence she ever said any such thing - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 660 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:03:00] <exec> 08└─Most Americans would prefer to leave the rest of the world alone it is just we are a big country and as such have a lot of sociopaths and they are better at ladder climbing that the rest of us. For me I am somewhat torn in how I should vote this year as I can do my usual and vote 3rd party but at th...
[20:03:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No evidence she ever said any such thing - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:03:03] <exec> 08└─> Except if you follow her, this is exactly the kind of thing she does! Except its not. Name two non-conspiracy theory based examples. It simply does not pass the laugh test that a seasoned professional politician would say something so obviously ludicrous. The only reason you believe it is because...
[20:03:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:No evidence she ever said any such thing - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 428 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:03:05] <exec> 08└─One: ". And what was actually in those Top Secret emails found on Hillary’s “unclassified” personal bathroom server was colossally damaging to our national security and has put lives at risk" http://observer.com [observer.com] http://ny...
[20:03:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:No evidence she ever said any such thing - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:03:07] <exec> 08└─http://nypost.com/cover/covers-for-october-4-2016/ [nypost.com] You know it's true. She's a criminal.
[20:03:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Fear... - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:03:12] <exec> 08└─Hillary is intelligent, or at least Bill is... Trustworthy? Hahaha!
[20:03:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fear... - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 813 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:03:14] <exec> 08└─but will a better system arise from the ashes? Yes, actually. History would suggest otherwise. Violent "revolutions", especially "top-down" revolutions like the kind Donald Trump and his ilk would lead, almost never result in a better situation for anyone other than the despots taking over the gover...
[20:03:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Is that really true? - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:03:19] <exec> 08└─I'd guess he was making a joke about my Discordian signature.
[20:03:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is that really true? - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:03:22] <exec> 08└─RE: but it seems rather clear that Trump is crazy Is that really true? You know, I'll think for myself, thank you.
[20:03:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02They're shooting out the lights, not shining them - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 698 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:03:30] <exec> 08└─She blatantly asked if she could use military equipment to execute a citizen of an allied nation No she didn't. Somebody made a completely unsubstantiated allegation with no evidence to back them up. In fact, the allegation is anonymous, so for all we know it is Putin or Assange making the allegatio...
[20:03:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:This isn't data, it is unsubstantiated nonsense - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:03:33] <exec> 08└─(Score: 1, Informative)
[20:04:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:We Have a Winner! - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:04:08] <exec> 08└─I'm saying this story has such little general interest appeal that anyone who thinks lack of coverage by mainstream press is evidence of a conspiracy is a fucking idiot. Soybeans suck at perspective. Its like whatever is right in front of their noses is (a) the god's honest truth and (b) the most im...
[20:04:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:We Have a Winner! - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:04:09] <exec> 08└─thank goodness we've got you here to call us names
[20:04:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:We Have a Winner! - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:04:11] <exec> 08└─> thank goodness we've got you here to call us names When facts and humor don't make a dent, what else is left?
[20:04:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:We Have a Winner! - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:04:14] <exec> 08└─maybe admit the possibility you're the one who's wrong or just give up
[20:04:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''With a computer'' doesn't make it new - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 1002 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:04:27] <exec> 08└─Microsoft Office I like the example of "spreadsheet" better. Those existed before computers. Now, they were extremely cumbersome to do by hand and a computer made them infinitely easier BUT THEY WEREN'T NEW. "With a computer" doesn't make something old into something new. Pretty much **anybody** who...
[20:04:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03SecurityGuy [1453] (Score:2) 02Re:Shockingly naive, IMO - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:04:35] <exec> 08└─It is rare that new software contains a secret sauce that is non obvious to most people. Which gets the reaction "how did they do that?"
[20:04:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:1) 02Re:education, honesty, work & service are encourag - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 1365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:04:53] <exec> 08└─"The problem is the secretive group at the top, hell-bent on protecting the church's image and their own positions." I have met them, interacted with them somewhat, seen in a degree how they live. I know many others really well who have interacted with them more than I have. What you say is untrue....
[20:04:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:education, honesty, work & service are encourag - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 1080 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:04:54] <exec> 08└─The Quorum of Seventy doesn't have nearly the perks or power of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles (a bit of a misnomer; there are currently fifteen of them). It's not about money: it's about the power and adulation of adoring crowds. These men are unquestioned and not held to any account. They have...
[20:05:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:2) 02Re:Transparency - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:05:08] <exec> 08└─Meanwhile, other (and quite possibly the same) churches (as in religious base, rather than individual building) were found to have numbered Swiss bank accounts with millions in them. Just because your single church might be upfront, it doesn't mean your RELIGION or the rest of the churches associate...
[20:05:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Transparency - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 402 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:05:09] <exec> 08└─If your church is specifically associated with precisely one elementary school, then it is clearly not the kind of "large, well-established, religion" that is being discussed, and your protest makes me wonder about either your reading skills, or what you are hiding. (The wonder is just that, "a paus...
[20:05:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Transparency - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:05:17] <exec> 08└─I can accept that the quote is an accurate quote, but I've known enough ex-catholics to disbelieve it's accuracy. But most of the people I knew who hated the Roman Catholic Church were ex-catholics. And I will accept that they knew what they were leaving. I, personally, don't hate them, but I do con...
[20:05:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:Transparency - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:05:20] <exec> 08└─you can ask members yourself easily enough
[20:05:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:1) 02Re:Transparency - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 441 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:05:22] <exec> 08└─As members, we are repeatedly reminded to be kind to all, regardless. The Golden Rule is a big deal. At the same time, membership requires that we maintain certain behaviors, because we believe God gives commandments and the integrity of those is important, and the organization has to protect its ow...
[20:05:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Transparency - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 696 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:05:24] <exec> 08└─I'm sorry, but nearly all Christian Churches make that a part of their spiel, but in my observation the church members are actually slightly LESS kind to non-members than are non-Church members. It's not *usually* dramatic, but there's a definite shift in the mean. That said, I suspect that this is...
[20:05:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02More muddled ''thinking'' - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:05:46] <exec> 08└─Karl Marx's ideas [...] I have studied communism [...] Josef Stalin One of these is not like the others. (Stalinism is Totalitarianism; that isn't anything like Marxism|Communism.) Why is it that I think you went to a parochial school to "study communism"? Hint: Indoctrination is NOT the same as bei...
[20:05:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:More muddled ''thinking'' - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 854 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:05:47] <exec> 08└─Republican voting trends to the contrary, Mormons are secret believers in Marxism. They have their own version, called the United Order [wikipedia.org], where the church membership has "all things in common". The Wikipedia page talks about the practice being voluntary, but nothing was voluntary unde...
[20:05:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:1) 02freedom to worship or not, believe or not - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 517 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:05:49] <exec> 08└─Your comment reflects a common, unfortunate myth about Christianity. In any form of the United Order, as in any form of real Christianity, anyone can get out whenever they want. We do not believe in forcing anyone, ever, for any reason, to serve God. In fact it is an article of faith for us to defen...
[20:05:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:freedom to worship or not, believe or not - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 1015 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:05:51] <exec> 08└─The lip service to freedom is nice, but Brigham Young used to hunt down and murder people who left his kingdom. (OK, he didn't by himself. That's what his "Destroying Angels" were for.) Even when no physical duress is used, the church (both historical and current) uses persuasive techniques that are...
[20:06:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The moral is: don't do science in Italy - 06Italian Official Cleared of Manslaughter Charges in Earthquake Trial - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:06:03] <exec> 08└─Some like to place the birth of modern science in Italy, but that enlightenment attitude is certainly not there anymore [sciencemag.org].
[20:06:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:06:20] <exec> 08└─Well, it is Ohio after all... We might want to start a campaign there and keep heading south.
[20:06:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:06:37] <exec> 08└─It's a 2000-year-old religion. *You* try being around that long and unambiguous, skippy.
[20:06:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:06:52] <exec> 08└─A clump of fucking cells is not a human
[20:06:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:06:55] <exec> 08└─Being found guilty and actually being guilty are two very different things. Also, there's nothing inherently significant about guilt, so it's just another pathetic excuse to justify killing someone you've already captured.
[20:07:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Quit screwing around and just use nitrogen - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:06] <exec> 08└─Prediction: Hillary Clinton will win the Presidency and pack the Supreme Court with liberal justices.
[20:07:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:27] <exec> 08└─No, I'm not joking. It's not widely advertised, but they generally do accept it because of people traveling and because it's so widely known. Just because you think they don't accept it, doesn't mean that they don't.
[20:08:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:introduce Indians to hamburgers - 06India Ratifies Paris Climate Change Agreement - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:22] <exec> 08└─Spoken as someone who clearly does not understand supply and demand....or humour... Oooo...even I felt the heat from that 2000 burn.....
[20:08:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's not that close - 06India Ratifies Paris Climate Change Agreement - 872 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:30] <exec> 08└─WHO THE FUCK CARES?! This a bullshit non-binding treaty being used for propaganda. It will make no difference to what countries do. NONE. Either they have an existing program, or not. My country NZ (along with every other country) got a "100% pass" on the last kyoto and we voted in a Tory government...
[20:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Expands the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis - 06Adaptation to Food Deprivation as a Clue for Treating Metabolic Diseases - 543 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:18] <exec> 08└─It's a cellular response to an enzyme. The researchers warn against the possibility of other factors, but assuming it checks out at the cellular level by third parties, it's very unlikely to trigger the kind of complex gland responses hormones cause. Well, it's a lot of ifs... But that warning is th...
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[21:01:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score:2) 02ineffective & false advertizing - 06US Subpoena Tests Privacy Promise of Encrypted Messaging App - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:01:46] <exec> 08└─Open Whisper Systems makes the following claim: Stay Private - We cannot read your messages, and no one else can either. Everything is always end-to-end encrypted and painstakingly engineered in order to keep your communication safe.
[21:01:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:ineffective & false advertizing - 06US Subpoena Tests Privacy Promise of Encrypted Messaging App - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:01:47] <exec> 08└─We have to insist on 100% free software (not merely "open source"), not software that refuses to respect the user's freedoms. Otherwise, we cannot even hope to achieve reasonable levels of security and privacy.
[21:01:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:ineffective & false advertizing - 06US Subpoena Tests Privacy Promise of Encrypted Messaging App - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:01:49] <exec> 08└─yeah , but you can build it from source (I did) and it doesn't differ from the play store. Granted maybe android has a built in keylogger - but signal allows a separate pass code for the app. Thinking about this, multi-passcode access is probably a good thing, when the $GOVT can force your finger on...
[21:01:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score:2) 02Re:ineffective & false advertizing - 06US Subpoena Tests Privacy Promise of Encrypted Messaging App - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:01:52] <exec> 08└─Like I said, the software seems benign and useful, but the way it's marketed is deceptive, and the way it's deployed renders it ineffective.
[21:01:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02That is a nice thought and all... - 06US Subpoena Tests Privacy Promise of Encrypted Messaging App - 1575 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:01:54] <exec> 08└─But every current hardware platform is compromised down to ring -3 or so (ring 0 was normally the max until system management mode, and then virtualization hardware became a thing. Now there are layers upon layers of privilege levels above your supposed operating system cpu, many of them running sig...
[21:02:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:UK - 06Nobel in Physics for Secrets of Exotic Matter - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:03] <exec> 08└─Brexit.
[21:02:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03gawdonblue [412] (Score:2) 02I wonder... - 06Nobel in Physics for Secrets of Exotic Matter - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:02:05] <exec> 08└─Wath it natural talent that got him where he ith today, or did David J Thouless make a deal with Thatan?
[21:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:"Can't we just drone this guy?" - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:20] <exec> 08└─That's completely untrue. He has epic grudge matches against individual people all the time, and repeatedly threatens to destroy individual people for their offenses against him.
[21:02:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:"Can't we just drone this guy?" - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 451 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:31] <exec> 08└─I've had that thought plenty of times. What it boils down to is that our "community center" will burn down to the foundation, but afterwards we come together and rebuild it better than before. That being said, it does require something to be burned and destroyed. While it may provide opportunities,...
[21:02:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Shitty Editorial Work - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:34] <exec> 08└─We have deleted a lot of election crap, and I'm looking to solve this problem by deleting more or almost all of it. It can always be posted in user journals (for those with the guts to make an account). I am discussing it now, and I will reply again later.
[21:02:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shitty Editorial Work - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 436 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:36] <exec> 08└─My complaint is not about the topic. Its about the quality of the story. If soylent ran a perpetual motion story as being legit, I'd be bitching about that too. Run some election coverage, just skip the loony-toons stories and stick to ones that are reality-based. Hell, the reuters story itself and...
[21:02:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:So which is it? - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:50] <exec> 08└─Remember when Romney was the crazy guy we could never vote for? Man, I miss those days.
[21:03:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No evidence she ever said any such thing - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:03:01] <exec> 08└─> E-mails The fact that civilians outside the government mailed classified documents to her across the internet is proof that she's a power hungry killer? Really? Really? > nypost cover You linked to a page about kim kardashian getting robbed. Thanks for erasing all doubt that you are a delusional n...
[21:03:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Fear... - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:03:08] <exec> 08└─To have the secretary of state say such things.... the US is really far gone.
[21:03:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:We Have a Winner! - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:03:48] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I'm wrong ... software patents are totally big news to the people who watch CNN. Guess you are also one of those fools who thinks his lack of knowledge is proof of conspiracy.
[21:03:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:bad for lawyers, great for everyone else - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:03:53] <exec> 08└─As to why the media is ignoring this, it doesn't have enough drama for them. I don't think it has much to do with any connections to lawyers.
[21:04:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Shockingly naive, IMO - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 1019 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:04:07] <exec> 08└─Cryptography itself is explicitly forbidden to patent, it's "just" math. Implementing that math on a computer is clearly far from novel (and is largely mechanical translation). Page rank is more or less a re-implementation of the impact factor applied to academic works with a few ad-hoc heuristics t...
[21:04:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormreaver [5101] (Score:2) 02Re:Shockingly naive, IMO - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:04:13] <exec> 08└─Guy picks up an egg, smacks it on it's end into the table, and balances the apparently hard-boiled egg on it's now-crushed end.
[21:04:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Shockingly naive, IMO - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 1247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:04:15] <exec> 08└─In the Reverse Engineering situation, this would be when the software does something which gets the reaction "how did they do that?". Rather than, I could build that same thing. Just need to roll up my sleeves and do the work. In other words, implementation is obvious. The Reverse Engineering situat...
[21:04:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03SecurityGuy [1453] (Score:2) 02Re:Shockingly naive, IMO - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 418 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:04:17] <exec> 08└─I can't really argue with that. Should software be patentable? IMO, yes. Is the current system, specifically that the USPTO grants patents to things they shouldn't, relying on the courts to sort it out, so unworkably broken that the cost of permitting software patents exceeds the benefit of them? Ye...
[21:04:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Shockingly naive, IMO - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:04:19] <exec> 08└─Light bulbs are a great example. Lots of people were trying to create light bulbs. To us, it's obvious, but only because we've seen the method that works.
[21:04:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02No press story because no story - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:04:22] <exec> 08└─This was a concurring opinion. It doesn't set any precedent.
[21:04:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:1) 02Re:education, honesty, work & service are encourag - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:04:40] <exec> 08└─Nah, good thing I don't worship them. The stuff you say sounds weird and foreign to me. Like, the 2nd anointing bit isn't a worry because if I keep the commandments (which is up to just me), it's then between me and God, and I trust he will get it right, even if he delegates -- he will see that it i...
[21:04:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Interesting) 02Re:education, honesty, work & service are encourag - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:04:42] <exec> 08└─All Mormons are equal, but some Mormons are more equal than others.
[21:04:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03jelizondo [653] 02re Interesting - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 363 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:04:45] <exec> 08└─Very interesting remarks from Senator Gordon Smith, more interesting than probably revealing classified information is his outlook for economics, energy and climate change, as they relate to the ambitions of his church. If you watch nothing else, these ~10 minutes [youtube.com] are worth every secon...
[21:04:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score:2) 02Re:re Interesting - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:04:48] <exec> 08└─So... we're going to impeach Senator Smith then, right? Right?!
[21:05:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:Transparency - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 2238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:05:05] <exec> 08└─There is a lot of good stuff in the teachings of Christ. Love thy neighbor, turn the other cheek, the Golden Rule, Christian charity, etc. The Jefferson Bible is a good distillation of the best of Christianity. But, there is also a lot of wrong, mean, and just plain stupid stuff perverted into even...
[21:05:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:1) 02huh? - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:05:06] <exec> 08└─You say many things about religion that are very foreign to my experience. I realize there are bad people in the world, but it almost sounds like you're describing something from another planet, when I compare it with what I have seen and known personally in my religious experience.
[21:05:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:1) 02agreed - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 444 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:05:13] <exec> 08└─No apology needed. So...I can only really say how we are taught to be. What we actually do is individual. In forums like our General Conference (lots of talks from leadership), this is often pointed out that we need to be better neighbors, all the time. We are all individually a work in progress (so...
[21:05:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:Transparency - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:05:15] <exec> 08└─Some behaviors, if universal, would end the race in a single generation.
[21:05:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:2) 02Re:Church's response: link - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 1839 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:05:35] <exec> 08└─And what on Earth should make you think we haven't looked closely? Statistically, atheists are far more likely to be knowledgeable about scripture and theology than believers. Besides, I guarantee you you're far more ignorant of Islam and Judaism than you (incorrectly) think I'm ignorant of Mormonis...
[21:05:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:1) 02Re:freedom to worship or not, believe or not - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 1278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:05:42] <exec> 08└─Most of these thunderous statements (not all), seem to come from ACs. I really doubt the BY murders you suggest. Not sure how to prove it either way though. Many people said bad things but that doesn't make them true. I do have family who was there through some controversies, which is about as good...
[21:05:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:freedom to worship or not, believe or not - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:05:45] <exec> 08└─Bill Hickman, one of the "destroying angels", admitted all and turned state's evidence. Google the book and read it for yourself: "Brigham's Destroying Angel: Being the Life, Confession, and Startling Disclosures of the Nortorious Bill Hickman". It's now public domain.
[21:06:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:2) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:43] <exec> 08└─If you read all of Luke 19 you'll notice that, while you're technically correct that it's Jesus speaking, he's telling a parable and the verse in question is a quote of one of the characters in the parable.
[21:07:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Quit screwing around and just use nitrogen - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:00] <exec> 08└─How else you gonna scare people into voting for Trump? You can't do it using facts.
[21:07:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:41] <exec> 08└─NOBODY ever campaigns for higher speed-limits
[21:07:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Safety vs Liberty - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:55] <exec> 08└─sideways 5 [memecdn.com]
[21:09:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:AutoSoylentPhagyNews! - 06 Medicine/Physiology Nobel Prize for Autophagy - 437 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:08] <exec> 08└─> could you not end up being an autophage? Actually, there is evidence suggesting that short-term fasting (on the order of about a week) actually induces autophagy in the best way - your body starts consuming the weakest cells (the ones most likely to become diseased or cancerous). Here's one relate...
[21:09:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not surprising - 06One of the Data Recorders from the Sept. 29th Hoboken Train Crash Didn't Work - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:26] <exec> 08└─The reason why many government operations are inefficient is not that they are government-driven, it's because they are government monopolies. Monopolies tend to be inefficient, no matter whether run by the government or by a private organization.
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[22:01:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:2) 02re Reasons - 06FARC Peace Deal Rejected by Colombians - 1170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:01:39] <exec> 08└─I was totally surprised by this vote, so I took to investigate what the hell happened. Basically, fear was the motive for the NO vote. Right-wing politicians whipped the people over issues like the general amnesty ('they'll get away with murder') and the spectre of the FARC, transformed into a polit...
[22:01:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:re Reasons - 06FARC Peace Deal Rejected by Colombians - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:01:41] <exec> 08└─When the results came in, President Santos was heard to say "Aw, FARC".
[22:01:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The rural/urban split - 06FARC Peace Deal Rejected by Colombians - 614 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:01:43] <exec> 08└─In the countryside, where they feel the effects of the warfare most strongly, there was overwhelming support for peace. The cities, with chickenhawks stirring up the populace[1] and with large numbers who aren't particularly affected, offset the votes of the folks out in the sticks. [1] Hah! Spelled...
[22:01:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:ineffective & false advertizing - 06US Subpoena Tests Privacy Promise of Encrypted Messaging App - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:01:54] <exec> 08└─deceptive? You have the source? Does what it says? Be specific - how is it deceptive? Surely you understand that every single piece of hardware is plausibly backdoored - the only way to prevent that is software. Grant, we cannot be sure there isn't a hardwire keylogger that has been include because...
[22:01:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score:2) 02Re:ineffective & false advertizing - 06US Subpoena Tests Privacy Promise of Encrypted Messaging App - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:01:56] <exec> 08└─I get as specific as I can in the first post.
[22:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:That is a nice thought and all... - 06US Subpoena Tests Privacy Promise of Encrypted Messaging App - 678 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:01:59] <exec> 08└─Thinking about it, the guys at the NSA aren't dumb. They have to realize that all these compromised devices cannot be trusted - not even by them. They aren't the only ones that know and use these exploits, not by a long shot. So what do they use? I want to think that they have something roughly anal...
[22:02:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score:2) 02Re:That is a nice thought and all... - 06US Subpoena Tests Privacy Promise of Encrypted Messaging App - 1168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:01] <exec> 08└─While the hardware powering most GNU/Linux and BSD systems is probably infected with malware, it is far from clear how much that affects the end user privacy or security. To take CPU as an example, the malicious logic would be visible to a reverse engineer, and would not be removable once found, whi...
[22:02:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:That is a nice thought and all... - 06US Subpoena Tests Privacy Promise of Encrypted Messaging App - 1163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:03] <exec> 08└─"While the hardware powering most GNU/Linux and BSD systems is probably infected with malware, it is far from clear how much that affects the end user privacy or security." Exactly. It's almost certainly compromised and we don't know exactly how. And you act like this is reassuring? "Spying on a com...
[22:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:ineffective & false advertizing - 06US Subpoena Tests Privacy Promise of Encrypted Messaging App - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:05] <exec> 08└─While that is all true, the majority of encrypted data will be secure. Yes your phone can likely be backdoored, but do you really think every keystroke is logged and sent 20ab to servers? I would like to believe that only a targeted attack would have a chance of getting the OWS key.
[22:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score:1) 02Re:ineffective & false advertizing - 06US Subpoena Tests Privacy Promise of Encrypted Messaging App - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:08] <exec> 08└─If the hardware is compromised, you don't need to log every keystroke. Just recognising the keys used in encrypted conversations and any passwords typed in is enough - they can then be surreptitiously transmitted to third parties who will already be logging the entire encrypted message in transit to...
[22:02:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:ineffective & false advertizing - 06US Subpoena Tests Privacy Promise of Encrypted Messaging App - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:10] <exec> 08└─You can't trust ANY software because they render to a screen. It is highly disingenuous of ANY provider of software to make ANY claims of security if their software renders images to a graphics screen because in principle there could be a spook looking over your shoulder. Unless they've taken care t...
[22:02:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02These Nuts are making me Thirsty - 06US Subpoena Tests Privacy Promise of Encrypted Messaging App - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:02:12] <exec> 08└─The crypto nut: "My data is safe behind six layers of symmetric and public-key algorithms." "What data is it?" "Mostly me emailing with people about cryptography." https://www.xkcd.com [xkcd.com]
[22:02:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:UK - 06Nobel in Physics for Secrets of Exotic Matter - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:22] <exec> 08└─Thouless left the UK in 1980 for the University of Washington in 1980, Kosterlitz joined Brown University in 1982, and Haldane was at the University of Southern California in 1981. So a wee bit early to blame on Brexit.
[22:02:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:UK - 06Nobel in Physics for Secrets of Exotic Matter - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:24] <exec> 08└─It's called the Brain Drain. I think the term was first in post-2ndWW period as cost of living in the UK is much higher than US. That, and the pay structure is all founded in Dickens era.
[22:02:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Can't we just drone this guy?" - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:51] <exec> 08└─Or it might fly under the radar as it would be the 3rd time that day he asked the same thing about someone else.
[22:02:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Shitty Editorial Work - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:56] <exec> 08└─The juice is really not worth the squeeze on political articles, and even the normal-seeming ones have been based on rumors or shit that nobody cares about.
[22:03:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Our Corrupt Media - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:03:56] <exec> 08└─I think you need to listen to it again. He's saying flat out they will call the race for Hillary before polls close and that this will discourage people from voting and he's perfectly fine with that.
[22:03:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:Our Corrupt Media - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 894 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:03:58] <exec> 08└─"An institution can recognise the negative effects of its business practices, such as reporting false events or hurting voter turnout, without admitting that those effects were the reason they made the decisions they did." I don't see that it makes any difference what their motivation is here, or wh...
[22:05:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:education, honesty, work & service are encourag - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 973 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:05:02] <exec> 08└─I went with a friend to his church camp one time (reorganised church of Jesus Christ of latter-day freaking saints)(off-shoot of the Mormons): all was good. They all wanted to help their fellow man, learned it is better to buy a sandwich for a homeles person than to give them money, etc. All well an...
[22:05:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:1) 02Re:education, honesty, work & service are encourag - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:05:03] <exec> 08└─As individuals, we are all definitely a work in progress, and need to keep trying to become better. That is what we are taught to do; the individual results are ... individual of course.
[22:05:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Evangelical Christians too. - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:05:06] <exec> 08└─Anyone who would qualify as Alt-Right. For God and Country. Big emphasis on the God, small emphasis on the Country, and no emphasis on their fellow citizens.
[22:05:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02You sure? - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:05:24] <exec> 08└─Sounds like a paedophile quote to me. You pass me the boy, when I'm done with him you can have the 'man' (who probably crossdresses and cries like a little girl in bed when he things nobody can hear him... unless he's perpetrating what was done to him unto others.)
[22:05:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:1) 02Re:what I know - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 395 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:05:53] <exec> 08└─He has promised that such things will pass and that He will heal and restore, for each individual. I trust that He can and will, even if it seems long, sometimes, while we are in the thick of it. The things people are claiming here are very foreign to my personal experience. I'll thoughtfully and si...
[22:05:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:2) 02Re:what I know - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:05:55] <exec> 08└─He has promised that such things will pass and that He will heal and restore, for each individual.
[22:05:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:1) 02Re:what I know - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:05:57] <exec> 08└─I know you won't find this satisfactory, and I'm not intending a complete answer since it probably won't matter, but just to be clear: We must never condone such atrocities, and we should seek to punish the perpretrators according to law. And the ones we miss, God will punish, there is no doubt what...
[22:06:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Church's response: link - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:06:11] <exec> 08└─Ah, Karl Marx's ideas really don't seem to make people happier as far as I can tell.
[22:06:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:06:40] <exec> 08└─It worked for Sherman.
[22:06:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:06:48] <exec> 08└─Then why not simply execute everyone accused of a crime?
[22:06:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:06:59] <exec> 08└─It is supposed to be the word of god. Whilst communicating clearly to everyone might be difficult for a mortal author, it should be trivial for an omnipotent deity. If the Bible isn't the word of god, wher ff6 e is its value?
[22:07:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:13] <exec> 08└─Even if I grant you your incomprehensible rejection of the plain fact
[22:07:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:14] <exec> 08└─And there's the whole theory that Matthew and Luke were based on earlier sources that haven't been found. If that Mark date was remotely accurate and they ended up finding Q it would have to be right smack in your desired window, I would think.
[22:07:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:17] <exec> 08└─D'oh, crap. Got my names mixed up. Please ignore my immediately previous post :P The two-source hypothesis: Most scholars agree that Mark was the first of the gospels to be composed, and that the authors of Matthew and Luke used it plus a second document called the Q source when composing their own...
[22:07:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:2) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 715 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:19] <exec> 08└─I don't get it. You quote Jesus saying he came with a sword, but you say he was lying and meant to say, "religion," when he clearly said, "sword." And you follow up with the rest of the passage where Jesus says he's going to rip families asunder...and you seem to think that makes Jesus a good guy......
[22:07:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:26] <exec> 08└─Judged? Judged by whom, the Christians whom their Savior told, "Judge not lest you be judged!"?
[22:08:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Emergencies - 06Experts want Cars Fitted With Variable Maximum Speed Devices - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:08:11] <exec> 08└─I'd wager that more lives are lost due to unnecessary speeding than are saved by people breaking the speed limit to get someone to a hospital in an emergency.
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[23:01:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03IndigoFreak [3415] (Score:2) 02Re:re Reasons - 06FARC Peace Deal Rejected by Colombians - 402 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:41] <exec> 08└─Listening to NPR this morning. They also said that it's generally believed FARC wants peace, and will stop aggression regardless of this vote. So why give them amnesty when they are going to stop fighting anyway. While it's a nice moral victory to be able to prosecute war criminals, I would much rat...
[23:01:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Fucking SJWs! - 06FARC Peace Deal Rejected by Colombians - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:43] <exec> 08└─Those fucking SJWs are sticking their noses in where they don't belong. Again! Who cares what a bunch of Ivy league students think about FARC? Come January 21, 2017, those pissant kids will be up against the wall with all the other SJW scumbags! They're worse than the niggers and wetbacks, as they'r...
[23:01:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fucking SJWs! - 06FARC Peace Deal Rejected by Colombians - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:46] <exec> 08└─They can't be up against the wall until it gets built. And built it will. And FARC will pay for it.
[23:01:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Nothing is safe by your standard - 06US Subpoena Tests Privacy Promise of Encrypted Messaging App - 429 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:59] <exec> 08└─By your standards nothing is safe. What they are claiming can be legitimate, that their software is locked down and doesn't leak info by design. To claim that the hardware or OS it runs on IS compromised in such a way as to render this software ineffective HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN. Onus is on you, especi...
[23:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Yes, and more on why encryption has it limits: - 06US Subpoena Tests Privacy Promise of Encrypted Messaging App - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:07] <exec> 08└─http://pdfernhout.net/why-encryption-use-is-problematical-when-advocating-for-social-change.html [pdfernhout.net] "Here is a partial list of all the ways a tool [using encryption] like Briar can fail when being used by activists engaged in controversial political actions. ..."
[23:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:UK - 06Nobel in Physics for Secrets of Exotic Matter - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:20] <exec> 08└─It was an earlier Brexit. They were trying to escape the Iron Lady.
[23:02:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Can't we just drone this guy?" - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:35] <exec> 08└─The few ethnic gaffes I know of she apologized for. Trump only half apologized on ANYTHING once.
[23:03:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:So which is it? - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:03] <exec> 08└─And that's the point. Hillary is a terrible choice, but every bad thing you can say about her, you can also say about Trump. And he has some doozies that Hillary doesn't share. If I were in a swing state I'd probably grit my teeth and vote for Hillary.
[23:03:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Fear... - 06Assange-Clinton Animosities - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:26] <exec> 08└─I could easily envision citizen juries overseeing the operation of government (much like selective service) with tighter controls on the passing of legislation
[23:03:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Our Corrupt Media - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:58] <exec> 08└─I don't see that it makes any difference what their motivation is here, or why you would.
[23:04:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Our Corrupt Media - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:13] <exec> 08└─While what you say is true, it's not really relevant. The news are given special mention in the first amendment because they are supposed to report important news, not because they are supposed to report what people want to hear. The protection of entertainment news is a by-product of not being able...
[23:04:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Shockingly naive, IMO - 06CAFC Judge: Software Patents Are Against the First Amendment - 518 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:33] <exec> 08└─There do exist patents in cryptography for much the same reason some guy in Australia managed to patent the wheel. Or if you prefer, the guy who patented teasing a cat with a laser pointer. But note how few there are and that they are all expired. The pull tab patent is actually for the method of ch...
[23:05:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:huh? - 06Leaked Videos Expose Inner Workings of Secretive Mormon Hierarchy - 1382 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:29] <exec> 08└─I've spent most of my life in the Bible Belt, where I've seen a lot of that sort of hypocrisy first hand. Perhaps the Bible Belt is another planet. Do you not get out much? Check out the Prosperity Gospel. Maybe you've never heard of it. The basic idea is really worship of money, in Christian clothi...
[23:06:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Death Penalty... - 06Ohio to Resume Executions With "New" Three-Drug Combo - 587 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:44] <exec> 08└─I don't get it. You quote Jesus saying he came with a sword, but you say he was lying and meant to say, "religion," when he clearly said, "sword." And you follow up with the rest of the passage where Jesus says he's going to rip families asunder...and you seem to think that makes Jesus a good guy......
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