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[00:01:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Soak the bastards - 06Deutsche Bank Nearing Multi-Billion Dollar Settlement with U.S. Dept. of Justice - 479 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:01:35] <exec> 08└─The bank needs to be soaked, executives responsible for the malfeasance need to go to jail, and if the settlement puts the bank into financial insolvency, so be it. The stockholders may be wiped out by it but that is the risk one takes in investing in a bank that does such dastardly deeds. But what...
[00:01:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:Oh the best way to muck up your business.... - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 1094 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:01:49] <exec> 08└─It's the sad truth. If they wanted to make an investment or whatever, they could throw some money my way and invite me into the “counts as a womyn-born-womyn” club right beside that Brianna Wu bitch. 'Course statistically speaking, it's a drop in the bucket. I'm right here! I'm one surgery away...
[00:01:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Funny) 02Yes! Please invest. - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:01:51] <exec> 08└─I'd like to have a game like the old Tomb Raider series combined with the DOA:Xtreme Beach Volleyball bounce logic. I understand the material physics are hard to compute and it takes good investment in great minds to come up with the right algorithms. But it'd be really sexy. Please invest!
[00:01:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02on the internet - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:01:53] <exec> 08└─What is online sexism? Are male data packets faster and stronger than female data packets? Are a woman's hands not suited to using a keyboard and mouse? Is the GUI color scheme offensive to a woman's eyes? I just can't figure out how a person's sex is relevant on the internet. Or maybe sex has nothi...
[00:02:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bullshit - 06EU's Leaked Plan to Punish Google for Antitrust Violations - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:02:37] <exec> 08└─French women are lovely by all reports. Eastern European beer is excellent. Have you had a pint of Czech pilsner lately?
[00:03:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Read the descriptions... - 06U.S. Regulator Warns Customers About Exploding Samsung Washing Machines - 488 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:03:31] <exec> 08└─The article & complaints page indicate that the tops of the washing machines were blown off, internal parts went flying in all directions, and the machine itself in many cases were turned/flung so violently that they ripped the electrical sockets from the wall, in some cases causing a house fire. Wh...
[00:03:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:I can't see it succeeding but what do I know? - 06Sex Robot Café Aims to Offer Londoners Fellatio With Their Morning Coffee - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:03:58] <exec> 08└─Being raised with manners and values in a military family.
[00:04:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No chance - 06Sex Robot Café Aims to Offer Londoners Fellatio With Their Morning Coffee - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:04:09] <exec> 08└─According to RT, the first such café is to open in Geneva. The Swiss are more open-minded about such things.
[00:04:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Gross - 06Sex Robot Café Aims to Offer Londoners Fellatio With Their Morning Coffee - 606 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:04:12] <exec> 08└─You youngsters with your 80 column cards don't know how good you have it. Some of us had to make do with 45 columns. http://www.columbia.edu [columbia.edu] In selecting IBM engineer and inventor Clair D. Lake's groundbreaking 80-column,   rectangular-hole design, IBM...
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[01:01:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Deutsche Bank issues are beyond fines - 06Deutsche Bank Nearing Multi-Billion Dollar Settlement with U.S. Dept. of Justice - 588 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:01:33] <exec> 08└─It's not just a possible fine, DB has other issues. " It still has €1.6 trillion ($1.79 trillion; £1.38 trillion) of loans outstanding. Only a small percentage of them need to go bad to wipe out the €60bn it has in capital." from http://www.bbc.com [bbc.com] (While lookin...
[01:01:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Who's mortgage backed bonds? - 06Deutsche Bank Nearing Multi-Billion Dollar Settlement with U.S. Dept. of Justice - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:01:35] <exec> 08└─Are these German mortgages and German bonds? Or they repackaging toxic American Loans left over from the forced lending to unqualified borrowers that cause the trouble in US banks? TFS and TFA are pretty unclear as to why the DOJ is even involved.
[01:01:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Yeah - 06Deutsche Bank Nearing Multi-Billion Dollar Settlement with U.S. Dept. of Justice - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:01:37] <exec> 08└─Go ahead and buy my shorts on the open Monday morning lel
[01:01:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Oh the best way to muck up your business.... - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 520 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:01:51] <exec> 08└─You're assuming the point of this is actually to increase tolerance. It's not. No one makes money by increasing tolerance. They only increase their funding if they can argue 'not enough is being done.' Doing enough would kill the goose, that would be very silly, don't you see my dear boy/girl? This...
[01:01:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oh the best way to muck up your business.... - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:01:53] <exec> 08└─These whiners don't have any power; just ignore them. Except when they persuade businesses to censor certain content or self-censor to make themselves feel better. But ignore that too since it's not illegal for the businesses to do that, so you have no grounds to complain. No problems here as long a...
[01:01:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:"invest" - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 416 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:01:56] <exec> 08└─Exactly what I was thinking. Investment, like is often done if you slip up and us the N word, and make it all go away by donating to Jessie Jackson's Rainbow Shakedown. Maybe they should make some games females will actually want to play. Maybe that takes more female programmers. Or maybe they just...
[01:01:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02No. Feminists should be killed. - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:02:00] <exec> 08└─They entice others to ignore D__teronomy 22, 28-29 (hebrew): [man rapes girl child, man keeps girl, pays father.] and follow another creed. So should the enforcers of the pro-women's laws.
[01:02:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02It doesn't matter watch Twitch says or does... - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:02:02] <exec> 08└─Nothing gonna make me stop playing the scantily-clad big-booty bosomy barbarian chick. Remember: If the girls get nerfed, the game is gay.
[01:02:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I think they're misguided - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 2767 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:02:05] <exec> 08└─Let's think about this. Let's say they develop some sufficiently effective, reliable way of removing sexist discourse from Twitch. So any 14 year old bedroom boy screaming about gigantic batwing labia is banned, or at least silenced. Forever, because idiotic teenytrolls have no problem waiting out a...
[01:02:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Garbage - 06Want to Appear Attractive? Hang Around with an Ugly Friend. - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:02:20] <exec> 08└─Another garbage study, courtesy of the social sciences. The researchers have no real way to objectively measure how attractive someone thinks someone else is, and rely on asking people to give them possibly incorrect or untruthful information.
[01:02:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bing makes me want to throw up - 06EU's Leaked Plan to Punish Google for Antitrust Violations - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:02:52] <exec> 08└─How much does google pay you to astroturf?
[01:03:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Read the reports, it's not the owners' fault. - 06U.S. Regulator Warns Customers About Exploding Samsung Washing Machines - 925 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:03:44] <exec> 08└─A normal washing machine should be capable of handling a king-size comforter, and even if the load becomes unbalanced, the worst the machine should do is possibly move a few inches across the floor. Instead, the reports are pointing out that the machines are "exploding" at random points in the cycle...
[01:05:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03EETech1 [957] (Score:1) 02I guess I'll wait... - 06Elon Musk Prepared to Send Bold Colonists to Their Deaths on Mars - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:05:52] <exec> 08└─I'm gonna have to wait for the rocket ride promising eternal life before i zoom off to another planet!
[01:05:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Big Musky Words - 06Elon Musk Prepared to Send Bold Colonists to Their Deaths on Mars - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:05:54] <exec> 08└─Maybe he should start by sending one person in orbit? Or just in 'space' (wherever that is) first? Or, dunno, by actually relaunching those 'relaunchable' rockets? Or by not exploding? Yes, not exploding would be a good start. Under that tone, using real rockets instead of CGI ones would be an even...
[01:06:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:3 layers of request re: links - 06Leaked Audio Contains John Kerry Explaining America's Inability to Act in Syria - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:06:24] <exec> 08└─You seem to be confusing the HTTP referer (sic) with the HTTP user-agent. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[01:06:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03EETech1 [957] (Score:1) 02Re:3 layers of request re: links - 06Leaked Audio Contains John Kerry Explaining America's Inability to Act in Syria - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:06:26] <exec> 08└─Google the link and click on the result. Paywall bypassed....
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[02:01:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Racist? - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 551 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:01:35] <exec> 08└─This is perpetuating inequality. I suppose it's 'racist' in that people of purported other 'race' are more likely to be at the bottom, and thus to stay at the bottom, and by a very large measure. But this is far from striking at the root. Lots of 'white' folks are poor too, and tend to stay poor as...
[02:01:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03justinb_76 [4362] (Score:1) 02Life's hard... - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:01:36] <exec> 08└─to (mis)quote the Duke - life's hard, it's even harder when you're stupid
[02:01:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02temporary lapse of attention - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 576 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:01:38] <exec> 08└─I suspect "getting ahead" has less to do with "moral imagination" and rather more to do with temporary lapses of attention on the part of the gatekeepers. The neophyte steps up to the plate and says "hey, why don't I do this?" and the old guard thinks "what the heck - why not?" This is how reputatio...
[02:01:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02CNN is long gone - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:01:40] <exec> 08└─It's been years to my knowledge since CNN basically gave up any pretence of neutral journalism. Mind you, the story itself is at least interesting. It's worth considering that upliftment programmes could just as easily be guided by the same algorithms. That's not something that's really being mentio...
[02:01:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:1) 02Sure - 06Deutsche Bank Nearing Multi-Billion Dollar Settlement with U.S. Dept. of Justice - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:50] <exec> 08└─Steal $20 left out in plain sight when your family is starving - 20 years in prison. Steal $20bn by creative accounting - spend half of it on bribes and enjoy the rest at your leisure. If voting could change the system it would be illegal.
[02:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:context... - 06Want to Appear Attractive? Hang Around with an Ugly Friend. - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:25] <exec> 08└─Hey Ethanol-fueled... Want to hang out?
[02:02:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02Re:Weird wording... - 06Robin Williams' Widow Susan Schneider Williams Pens Heartbreaking Essay About His Final Months - 570 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:45] <exec> 08└─Please do not degrade the English language; language is the glue that holds society together, and her usage does not fit the definition of the word. Terrorism is a buzzword that is being abused and manipulated. Privacy advocates, consciencious objectors, and now mental disorders are all terrorists?...
[02:03:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Bing makes me want to throw up - 06EU's Leaked Plan to Punish Google for Antitrust Violations - 1072 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:03:05] <exec> 08└─I take it you don't know how to, or don't care to, control the loading of images in your browser. You apparently use search engines by opening their home pages and typing a query, rather than by using a search feature built into your browser. Perhaps, like around 98 or 99 percent of netizens, you do...
[02:03:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Which is it? - 06EU's Leaked Plan to Punish Google for Antitrust Violations - 880 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:03:10] <exec> 08└─Its probably which ever way the money flows. I'm sure Facebook is happy to pay for foisting its spyware onto every phone in the world. The thing is, the vast majority of people, if handed a phone with no apps other than an assortment of various "play stores" and play-store wanna-bes will still go to...
[02:05:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:1000... 10000... Tomato tomato. - 06Elon Musk Prepared to Send Bold Colonists to Their Deaths on Mars - 1189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:05:37] <exec> 08└─Mars launch windows occurs every 780 days with a 6-8 month trip. So, over a course of 40 years you'll get around 20 launch windows. That's 50 ships per window. Assuming a more gradual start (first time sending a single ship, then, say, 5 ships...), we can throw in another decade for a minimal 50 yea...
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[03:01:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:Racist? - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:37] <exec> 08└─You're right, except that there are far more poor white people than poor black people! But it is true that a higher percentage of blacks are poor than whites.
[03:01:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Racist? - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:39] <exec> 08└─Yes, however it does write the narrative as a race issue instead of a class issue, and deflects attention from the perpetrators of the inequality. While control over your privacy is paramount, casting this as a race issue, which is mostly of interest to minorities, instead of a privacy issue, which...
[03:01:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Racist? - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:41] <exec> 08└─I brought up the title of this submission as a humorous one-liner to a mathematician and he said that there is actually a strategy to equate inequality with racism. I pointed out that people may find it a but stupid, but I guess that is one way to tackle both problems... I'm a bit shocked that acade...
[03:01:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fuck - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 642 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:01:46] <exec> 08└─You see this kind of shit all the time these days. Lots of whining, very few solutions. What do you want - for banks to give money to people with bad credit? For colleges to accept more idiots with bad grades? For businesses to hire people without any qualifications? Math isn't racist. Math is math....
[03:01:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:48] <exec> 08└─Colleges do accept more people with shit grades because of their color, including medical colleges. Ask me what color my doctor is. And it's not because I'm racist, it's because I don't want to die.
[03:01:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Grammar and Usage - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 857 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:01:50] <exec> 08└─One thing I've been thinking about lately is the way that people interpret different kinds of writing mistakes. Essentially, writing "properly" results in hiding any informal grammar and usage you may have learned as a child, and writing "improperly" reveals your background. Of course, if everyone a...
[03:02:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Who's mortgage backed bonds? - 06Deutsche Bank Nearing Multi-Billion Dollar Settlement with U.S. Dept. of Justice - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:01] <exec> 08└─Those loans were NOT forced. The lenders couldn't get enough of them, they were like stoners in the junk food isle.
[03:02:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score:2) 02Re:context... - 06Want to Appear Attractive? Hang Around with an Ugly Friend. - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:39] <exec> 08└─You're friends with Danny Trejo? Cool.
[03:04:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Three "icks" and he's out... - 06Sex Robot Café Aims to Offer Londoners Fellatio With Their Morning Coffee - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:04:50] <exec> 08└─You don't bleach yo girl?
[03:05:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I give it a very short lifespan... - 06Sex Robot Café Aims to Offer Londoners Fellatio With Their Morning Coffee - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:05:00] <exec> 08└─Onaholes and similar sex devices already work, and they don't rip dicks off. The sexbots will be harmless.
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[04:01:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02*crickets* - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:01:43] <exec> 08└─No Windows 10 users here.
[04:01:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:*crickets* - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:01:44] <exec> 08└─bradley13 makes at least one brave soul.
[04:01:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:*crickets* - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:01:47] <exec> 08└─I have 4 boxes (in addition to my 4 linux boxes) that are running 10. The only issue I have is three games that do not work anymore (out of 1500 or so). That is also why I am still on windows for these boxes.
[04:01:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:*crickets* - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:01:49] <exec> 08└─That's a lot of games that I assume you haven't tested on the platform. Although the biggest killer of games I can remember was the move from 32/16 to 64/32-bit. Do you count DosBox-compatible titles in that number?
[04:01:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:*crickets* - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 450 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:01:51] <exec> 08└─I had *no* problems with the latest Windows 10 update! Of course, I also had no problems with the upgrade to Windows 10 in the first place, I had no problems with Windows 8.0 or 8.1, nor any problems with Windows 7. Also had no problems at all with Wista, XP, or NT based 2000 systems, none, nada, zi...
[04:01:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Feels like? - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 517 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:01:53] <exec> 08└─Feels like? You ARE rolling the dice every time Microsoft forces a cumulative patch on you. There's been plenty of times already where the patches have broken a lot of computers. It's not like it's new, there have been bad patches back in XP and since. But back then you could just not accept the pat...
[04:01:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03ShadowSystems [6185] (Score:1) 02This is why no Win10 for me. - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 1715 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:01:55] <exec> 08└─I'm totaly blind & require a screen reader to use my computer at all. Under Win7 I can wait a day or two to find out if any given update might cripple the system (reading other forums like this one to hear the hue & cry) & if the update is broken then refuse to install it. If push comes to shove I c...
[04:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:Racist? - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 694 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:02:07] <exec> 08└─"Yes, however it does write the narrative as a race issue instead of a class issue, and deflects attention from the perpetrators of the inequality." Working As Intended. "While control over your privacy is paramount, casting this as a race issue, which is mostly of interest to minorities, instead of...
[04:02:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:02:14] <exec> 08└─Just a thought--what if medical colleges were to implement some sort of post-acceptance evaluation system, such that not all their students would automatically become medical doctors?
[04:02:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 412 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:02:16] <exec> 08└─There are a LOT of barriers in front of anyone who wants to become a doctor. I don't think playing the race card due to affirmative action is an accurate portrayal of reality. Even if a person gets into a school because they are a minority doesn't mean they are a worse doctor. They still have to pas...
[04:02:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fuck - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 396 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:02:18] <exec> 08└─I guess you missed the point and just want to espouse your own politics. The whole concept of credit and using statistics to make decisions on human lives is the problem. Lots of poor people need a break, but I'm sure your answer would be something along the lines of "bootstraps". Smart people tend...
[04:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Fuck - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:02:21] <exec> 08└─What do you want - for banks to give money to people with bad credit? For colleges to accept more idiots with bad grades? For businesses to hire people without any qualifications?
[04:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02This site is the wrong color... - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:02:24] <exec> 08└─I'm used to seeing green accompany nonsense like this shit.
[04:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:This site is the wrong color... - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:02:26] <exec> 08└─Submit more stuff, and you won't ha e65 ve to see the trash. I just submitted 4 sane stories.
[04:02:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03gawdonblue [412] (Score:2) 02Do any American companies get big fines? - 06Deutsche Bank Nearing Multi-Billion Dollar Settlement with U.S. Dept. of Justice - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:02:39] <exec> 08└─Just wondering, cause it seems like only foreign companies get these massive fines.
[04:03:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I think they're misguided - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:03:05] <exec> 08└─Thank you, your post is one of the only ones here that is decent and makes a good point.
[04:03:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Looping - 06Robin Williams' Widow Susan Schneider Williams Pens Heartbreaking Essay About His Final Months - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:03:41] <exec> 08└─DXM is sold over-the-counter. Recreationally, you drink a large amount of the cough syrup containing it. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] I would skip it. Do shrooms.
[04:03:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bing makes me want to throw up - 06EU's Leaked Plan to Punish Google for Antitrust Violations - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:03:59] <exec> 08└─Glad you think my writing is professional, but that was a freebie.
[04:05:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02This was predicted in Idiocracy - 06Sex Robot Café Aims to Offer Londoners Fellatio With Their Morning Coffee - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:05:44] <exec> 08└─Just ask for a latte.
[04:05:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine (285) < 1000 /span> (Score:2) 02At The Risk of Sounding Old Fashioned... - 06Sex Robot Café Aims to Offer Londoners Fellatio With Their Morning Coffee - 569 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:05:46] <exec> 08└─I really don't understand the allure of "sexbots" (or Fleshlights, for that matter). If I'm horny and there's no one else around to assist, I'm perfectly capable of taking care of things myself. No muss, no fuss, no £60. What's more, there's no substitute for actual mouth of a MOTAS [dictionary.com...
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[05:01:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02所有您的基地是属于我们。 - 06US Hands Internet Control To ICANN - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:01:48] <exec> 08└─(All your base belongs to us.)
[05:01:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimtheowl [5929] (Score:2) 02Re:*crickets* - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 634 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:01:59] <exec> 08└─Brave for running Windows 10 or reporting on it? The latter, I appreciate. The former, I would advise that if he is going to run in a dual boot configuration to at least use distinct physical disks. As far as I can think back, Microsoft has never displayed any interest in supporting nor respecting...
[05:02:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:*crickets* - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:02:00] <exec> 08└─The former, I would advise that if he is going to run in a dual boot configuration to at least use distinct physical disks.
[05:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:*crickets* - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:02:05] <exec> 08└─Will you pat yourself on the back or do you have a Greek slave boy to do it for you? ;)
[05:02:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:2) 02re Disable Updates - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 1010 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:02:09] <exec> 08└─I have two computers (a laptop and desktop) running Win 10. The 1607 update really messed up my laptop, but I was not too concerned as it is basically a copy of the desktop that I use when visiting clients but I was alarmed at it messing up my main dektop After investigating, I found this article [i...
[05:02:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Solution - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:02:12] <exec> 08└─Others have found a solution to their problem here [ubuntu.com].
[05:02:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Solution - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:02:14] <exec> 08└─You beat me by 3 minutes. But I would have said Debian.
[05:02:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheReaperD [5556] (Score:2) 02Re:Solution - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:02:16] <exec> 08└─Well, Ubuntu is just the more end-user friendly version of Debian so, both answers work though the audience is a bit different.
[05:02:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Solution - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:02:18] <exec> 08└─And the solution is called systemd.
[05:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02We're the phone company ... - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:02:20] <exec> 08└─We're the phone company and we don't care. [youtube.com]
[05:02:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02on the real estate crisis - 06Deutsche Bank Nearing Multi-Billion Dollar Settlement with U.S. Dept. of Justice - 1425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:02:58] <exec> 08└─I think it bears repeating here that widespread criminal activity was a symptom not a cause of the irrational behavior leading up to the 2007-2008 real estate crisis. The cause was easy credit from the central banks, particular US and European, and 50 to 1 or better leverage (1 part collateral to 50...
[05:03:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Load of crap - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 1237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:03:25] <exec> 08└─This is a really dumb article that is just a PR stunt. "Technology that allows users to create the experiences that they want on their various social media channels - Twitch included." Well, what about people that want to be asshole trolls to entertain other asshole trolls? Yeah I thought so. It see...
[05:03:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Barney wants to know - 06Want to Appear Attractive? Hang Around with an Ugly Friend. - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:03:42] <exec> 08└─cheerleader effect: one becomes more attractive when one is in a group this: in a group, the most attractive people become more attractive Perhaps I'm missing something, but it seems more a refinement than a contradiction.
[05:04:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Weird wording... - 06Robin Williams' Widow Susan Schneider Williams Pens Heartbreaking Essay About His Final Months - 723 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:04:00] <exec> 08└─Thank you, I understand the other posts defending the use of "terrorist" but it still seems odd. Actually, scratch that, its downright offensive to relate mental health issues with the actions of violent ideologues. "This is a personal story, sadly tragic and heartbreaking, but by sharing this infor...
[05:04:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Weird wording... - 06Robin Williams' Widow Susan Schneider Williams Pens Heartbreaking Essay About His Final Months - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:04:02] <exec> 08└─Maybe you'd like to tell HER that. I'm sure she'd appreciate it.
[05:04:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Neurology® Podcast - September 27, 2016 Issue - 06Robin Williams' Widow Susan Schneider Williams Pens Heartbreaking Essay About His Final Months - 766 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:04:08] <exec> 08└─Editorial Titled: The Terrorist inside My Husband’s Brain https://www.aan.com [aan.com] 1) Editorial Titled: The Terrorist inside My Husband's Brain 2) e-Pearl topic: X-linked myopathy with excessive autophagy 3) Topic of the month: Neurologic prognosis fo...
[05:05:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Re:Wrong business - 06U.S. Regulator Warns Customers About Exploding Samsung Washing Machines - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:05:10] <exec> 08└─In the meantime Day & Zimmermann, manufacturer of the M67 grenade, in reaction to reports of problems with dud M67's, have recommended that the US Army consider buying Samsung electronics products instead in order to arm its troops. For example in this case [coconuts.co] if they'd used a Galaxy S7 t...
[05:05:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:I can't see it succeeding but what do I know? - 06Sex Robot Café Aims to Offer Londoners Fellatio With Their Morning Coffee - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:05:51] <exec> 08└─Do you really want to go to work with a bunch of ... [very entertaining and colorful commentary omitted] ... People you would rather fist-bump than shake hands with?
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[06:01:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:所有您的基地是属于我们。 - 06US Hands Internet Control To ICANN - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:01:35] <exec> 08└─For those of you too young to remember this meme, here you go [youtube.com]. Warning! The video in the preceding link is known to the state of California to be incredibly monotonous and idiotic.
[06:01:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Which Just Goes To Show... - 06US Hands Internet Control To ICANN - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:01:37] <exec> 08└─That not only is Ted Cruz widely disliked, he's also as dumb as a box of rocks.
[06:01:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Which Just Goes To Show... - 06US Hands Internet Control To ICANN - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:01:39] <exec> 08└─Hmmm, can we hand over Ted Cruz, too?
[06:01:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score:2) 02Re:*crickets* - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:01:51] <exec> 08└─Yeah I got burnt by Win 7 somehow nuking my Linux OS partition (thankfully home my partition survived). Sure as hell aren't trusting Win 10 not to. These days the important disks are in an external USB3 cradle, powered off whenever I use Windows. I'm just waiting for the day when even that isn't eno...
[06:01:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:*crickets* - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:01:52] <exec> 08└─The former, I would advise that if he is going to run in a dual boot configuration to at least use distinct physical disks.
[06:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:*crickets* - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:01:59] <exec> 08└─*crickets*
[06:02:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Feels like? - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 595 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:02:02] <exec> 08└─I don't disagree. But i do find it interesting that this is also how mac OS, OS X, macOS or whatever they're calling it this week is also delivered, and nobody seems to make such a fuss about it. They do control what hardware it runs on, so its a much smaller QA project, but still they've botched th...
[06:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:re Disable Updates - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:02:06] <exec> 08└─So, after Microsoft has proven to put your business at risk, have you already made plans to move away from it? If not, why not?
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[07:01:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:所有您的基地是属于我们。 - 06US Hands Internet Control To ICANN - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:41] <exec> 08└─The original meme would have been Japanese, and might be something more like this: 君達の基地は、全て我々がいただいた。
[07:01:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Which Just Goes To Show... - 06US Hands Internet Control To ICANN - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:44] <exec> 08└─Sure, genius. Just because you have a hate boner for Cruz doesn't mean he's always wrong. We're giving political control of the internet over to people who think promoting fucking Iran the top spot on their Human Rights committee was a smart idea.
[07:01:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Which Just Goes To Show... - 06US Hands Internet Control To ICANN - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:46] <exec> 08└─Sure, genius. Just because you have a hate boner for Cruz doesn't mean he's always wrong. We're giving political control of the internet over to people who think promoting fucking Iran the top spot on their Human Rights committee was a smart idea.
[07:01:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:Which Just Goes To Show... - 06US Hands Internet Control To ICANN - 484 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:49] <exec> 08└─They're giving control over to ICANN (who currently already have it), not the UN. The only difference in the arrangement today from what it was yesterday is that the NTIA has given up it's ability to override ICANN decisions, something they've hardly ever bothered to do in the first place, and even...
[07:02:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:This is why no Win10 for me. - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:13] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately there's no screen reader during BIOS/POST, so I can't interact with the boot menu to choose the LiveCD or USB boot options.
[07:02:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:This is why no Win10 for me. - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 501 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:14] <exec> 08└─Regarding Linux distributions with speech support, the Debian project claims that Support for software speech synthesis is available on all installer images which have the graphical installer, i.e. all netinst, CD and DVD images, and the netboot gtk variant. It can be activated by selecting it in t...
[07:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Supergrub2 - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:02:21] <exec> 08└─If you want to risk dual booting Win*/Linux these days it might pay to keep this iso handy... http://www.supergrubdisk.org [supergrubdisk.org]
[07:02:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02quel surprise - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 620 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:02:23] <exec> 08└─I have had these problems with past versions of windows. If You have them the first time now -- You are lucky. That will teach You to always use two different drives for dual booting. Physically unplug the linux drive during windows updates -- there's pretty much no other way to make sure windows up...
[07:02:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:43] <exec> 08└─They still have to pass med-school [...]
[07:02:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02What? - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:02:49] <exec> 08└─Once ... WMDs digest that data, […] It sends more police to arrest them and when they're convicted it sentences them to longer terms.
[07:03:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02Re:Garbage - 06Want to Appear Attractive? Hang Around with an Ugly Friend. - 1645 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:49] <exec> 08└─Here's an old article by Jared Diamond [ua.edu] that addresses this issue. I can hear echoes of Serge Lang's scoffing in the above comment: "How does Dr. Furl measure attractiveness? Does he have an attractiveness-meter?" The whole of science begins with attempting to operationalise the concepts of...
[07:04:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Metaphors - 06Robin Williams' Widow Susan Schneider Williams Pens Heartbreaking Essay About His Final Months - 355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:04:13] <exec> 08└─Apparently, some of you aren't up on them. Here's some info about them [yourdictionary.com] which is probably at about your level of understanding. In this case (without reading the essay), I'd assume that "terrorist" is a metaphor for the disease that was ravaging Williams' brain. Given the disease...
[07:04:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02sometimes(?) publishers suck - 06Hungarian Science Fiction Publisher Says: "on the net"=="public domain" - 1110 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:04:43] <exec> 08└─Thanks for submitting this, would not have found it on my own. Somewhat similar experience happened to me a couple of years ago. I contributed a short chapter (8 pages) to an engineering primer for students that some old friends were editing. Strictly volunteer, I did not expect any compensation. Th...
[07:05:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Revenue - 06Apple Loses VirnetX Patent Retrial, Must Pay $302.4 Million - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:05:07] <exec> 08└─relies on patent licensing for revenue
[07:06:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2 2000 ) 02Re:Politics, not reality - 06Federal Judge Issues Injunction to Protect Red Wolves in North Carolina - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:51] <exec> 08└─Your surmise about self-perpetuating bureaucracy... understates the case: https://www.yahoo.com [yahoo.com]
[07:06:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:Ever been eyeball to eyeball with a wolf? - 06Federal Judge Issues Injunction to Protect Red Wolves in North Carolina - 379 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:00] <exec> 08└─Now that we have a surplus of wolves here in Montana... I know people who have found themselves surrounded, had to abandon their own game (this being during deer season) and had to back down the trail, guns at the ready. Timber wolves (native) are shy. McKenzie greys (introduced) are not. We've got...
[07:07:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:clickbait title - 06Elon Musk Prepared to Send Bold Colonists to Their Deaths on Mars - 471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:35] <exec> 08└─Hillary is part of the "ruling class", born with a silver spoon up her ass, and she has no idea how you or I manage to pay the bills, raise the kids, keep a car on the road, and save up for retirement. She has absolutely no idea what it's like to get out of bed morning after morning, to make the tre...
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[08:01:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Bernstein 2.0 - 06EFF Asks Court to Block U.S. From Prosecuting Security Researcher - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:01:38] <exec> 08└─EFF will spend huge amounts of money chasing this up to the circuit court only to be told that they accept the government's promise not to prosecute legit researchers like Green.
[08:01:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bernstein 2.0 - 06EFF Asks Court to Block U.S. From Prosecuting Security Researcher - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:01:40] <exec> 08└─Oh you want DJB 2.0 do you? You forgot one detail of DJB 1.0: legit researcher must lose, for being uppity. The case will go away, but the government will not lose the case. Government always wins.
[08:01:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Which Just Goes To Show... - 06US Hands Internet Control To ICANN - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:01:55] <exec> 08└─We're giving political control of the internet over to people
[08:01:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Which Just Goes To Show... - 06US Hands Internet Control To ICANN - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:01:57] <exec> 08└─Yes, so I've heard. The NTIA was to ICANN as the FISA court is to the NSA.
[08:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Which Just Goes To Show... - 06US Hands Internet Control To ICANN - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:01:59] <exec> 08└─Anything more useful you would like to contribute to the discussion other than ad-hominem attacks on a political person you dont like?
[08:02:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Feels like? - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:02:21] <exec> 08└─> [...] i wish it was like Windows XP or Windows 7 where you can select what patches to install, and roll them back separately [...] In actuality, it's going to be the other way around. The patches for Windows 7 are going to come in the form of monthly roll-ups, beginning this month:
[08:02:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Feels like? - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:02:22] <exec> 08└─SN carried that story in August. /article.pl?sid=16/08/17/0830223 [soylentnews.org]
[08:02:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score:2) 02Re:This is why no Win10 for me. - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:02:30] <exec> 08└─Just a crazy idea But if you have any OCR-capable screenreader, will it pick up the fonts of BIOS when feed images of it via a webcam? (Hitting the magic key to get to options normally is done from memory for sighted as well - due to too short delay (tends to be that the POST-beep is when to hit the...
[08:02:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03butthurt [6141] 02Re:Fuck - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 185 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:02:57] <exec> 08└─What do you want - for banks to give money to people with bad credit? For colleges to accept more idiots with bad grades? For businesses to hire people without 2c32 any qualifications?
[08:03:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Gamergate is forever - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 1121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:03:43] <exec> 08└─All this proves is that Gamergate was not a one time battle, it will be an eternal war. If they think they can be conservative, to "Stand athwart History yelling STOP!", they will lose. Every year some small loss will happen and a decade later they will look around and realize it is over, entryism h...
[08:04:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Cocaine - 06Robin Williams' Widow Susan Schneider Williams Pens Heartbreaking Essay About His Final Months - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:04:27] <exec> 08└─Poor sense of smell, heartburn, insomnia, paranoia, looping, elevated cortisol levels. I have to confess that if I had somebody in my home suffering from Lewy Body Disease, I'd have to see the results of a drug test to be convinced they weren't suffering on the ugly side of of a coke habit that star...
[08:08:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Another Warmongering Dem - 06Leaked Audio Contains John Kerry Explaining America's Inability to Act in Syria - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:08:43] <exec> 08└─They flipped positions back in the 60s, where all the racists left the DNC and joined the GOP due to Nixon's "Southern Strategy". Nowadays, the GOP has gone into outright fascism, and the DNC has filled the "moderately right wing conservative authoritarian" position the GOP used to fill, before they...
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[09:01:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Linus is an old man - 06Why Kernel Development Still Uses Email - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:01:42] <exec> 08└─Email is for old people. End.
[09:01:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02SoylentNews is old people - 06Why Kernel Development Still Uses Email - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:01:43] <exec> 08└─Linus is an old man (Score:-1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 03, @04:03AM (#409302) Email is for old people. End.
[09:01:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:SoylentNews is old people - 06Why Kernel Development Still Uses Email - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:01:45] <exec> 08└─I'm guessing it got down-modded since Linus routinely uses github and even hosts some projects there: https://github.com [github.com]
[09:01:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02The criticism against GitHub is nonsensical. - 06Why Kernel Development Still Uses Email - 885 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:01:48] <exec> 08└─Open issues are the equivalent of bugzilla.kernel.org. They have no real relation to the email patch submission lists. Moreover, bugzilla is largely being ignored by the likes of Intel which tells submitters to use Intel's own forum. The pull requests complaint is similarly false. There are hundreds...
[09:01:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The criticism against GitHub is nonsensical. - 06Why Kernel Development Still Uses Email - 637 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:01:50] <exec> 08└─These sorts of things remind me of the source control issues linux originally had. It had none. They were dragged kicking and screaming into using it. Hell git is an offshoot because linus was pissed off at the one he was using. I do get his points though. Most of these tools feel like you are doing...
[09:02:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Bernstein 2.0 - 06EFF Asks Court to Block U.S. From Prosecuting Security Researcher - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:02:00] <exec> 08└─1. The gov't would never make such a promise. At best, they might say something along the lines of "we promise not to prosecute this particular person for writing this particular book". 2, Any promise they give is only worth something if they write it in the margin of a $10 bill.
[09:02:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:Which Just Goes To Show... - 06US Hands Internet Control To ICANN - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:02:19] <exec> 08└─Anything more useful you would like to contribute to the discussion other than ad-hominem attacks on a political person you dont like?
[09:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Which Just Goes To Show... - 06US Hands Internet Control To ICANN - 873 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:02:21] <exec> 08└─Do you disagree with that assessment? Actually yes I do disagree with it. He may be disliked in your circles but not amongst mine. I personally think he should be voted out. 1) you implied it and then doubled down on it and now confirmed it. 2) No, I decided not to mod you. I even have mod points :)...
[09:02:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:Which Just Goes To Show... - 06US Hands Internet Control To ICANN - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:02:23] <exec> 08└─My original question stands are you going to contribute or just make pot shots at a political person you dont like?
[09:02:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:*crickets* - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 2164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:02:42] <exec> 08└─No, I tested them unfortunately. Yes that is strictly windows games. My wife *LIKES* her games. She wanted a new computer *AND* her games which was lots of installing off of CDs and reinstalling lots of Steam and Bigfish which simplified installing a good chunk of them. Not much GoG though. I tested...
[09:03:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Arik [4543] 02Racist? - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 551 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:03:08] <exec> 08└─This is perpetuating inequality. I suppose it's 'racist' in that people of purported other 'race' are more likely to be at the bottom, and thus to stay at the bottom, and by a very large measure. But this is far from striking at the root. Lots of 'white' folks are poor too, and tend to stay poor as...
[09:03:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:Racist? - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:03:10] <exec> 08└─It's not about numbers, really. It's about there being issues that affect coloured people specifically. Issues that need specifically addressing.
[09:03:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 2893 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:03:23] <exec> 08└─Nice idea. Too bad it is illegal. Ever heard of "Disparate Impact" as a legal concept? It says that if you are handing out licenses to practice medicine and your process doesn't have the same percentage of any 'Protected Minority" (and the list grows, MENA in currently being split from White for the...
[09:03:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 681 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:03:24] <exec> 08└─Nice idea. Too bad it is illegal. Ever heard of "Disparate Impact" as a legal concept? It says that if you are handing out licenses to practice medicine and your process doesn't have the same percentage of any 'Protected Minority" (and the list grows, MENA in currently being split from White for the...
[09:03:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 1195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:03:28] <exec> 08└─The interest rate you are charged (vs other customers) is based on risk. Every factor which influences risk should be fair game, both when it gives some customers a better rate and when it charges some others more. Live in a bad neighborhood? It means your property value (often the object of the loa...
[09:03:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:03:30] <exec> 08└─Consider, idiot with bad credit inherits the house next to yours. Suddenly the interest rate on your credit card goes up and the limit goes down. Sound reasonable? Of course, property values fall and people with worse credit move in. Within a year, you are a bad credit risk even though nothing about...
[09:03:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What? - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:03:37] <exec> 08└─you're a little behind the times. No joke. I believe I've seen articles about convicts who got out early because of a "computer glitch" as well as people trying to appeal decisions (regarding parol maybe? I forget) that had been handed down by an algorithm. Police departments using some software hoc...
[09:03:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:What? - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:03:39] <exec> 08└─I'm pretty sure policemen are not (yet?) sent by big data algorithms, but by their bosses who are still biological beings.
[09:03:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03nishi.b [4243] (Score:2) 02Re:What? - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 405 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:03:41] <exec> 08└─I read an article at least a year ago about algorithms being used to predict where and when crimes would most likely take place in a large US city according to previous police records, and using that to choose where the police would be sent. So yes, there are at least some places where policemen are...
[09:04:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:"invest" - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 547 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:04:15] <exec> 08└─There are lots of games that women want to play... I think one of the things people constantly misunderstand about Sarkeesian, for example, and one of the things she is at pains to point out in every long form video she made, is that she does actually like many of the games she goes on to criticise....
[09:04:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:"invest" - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:04:17] <exec> 08└─It's an investment, they are trying to avoid becoming like Reddit or Twitter and getting a reputation for being nasty places that children and people at work should not go, and where being female is likely to get you some abuse. If that happens people will start to migrate to other services. Of cour...
[09:04:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:It doesn't matter watch Twitch says or does... - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:04:23] <exec> 08└─I guess you need the scantily-clad big-booty bosomy barbarian chick to offset the scantily-clad big-muscled 6"10' barbarian dude, or it would be gay, right?
[09:04:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Translation - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:04:29] <exec> 08└─Sex is bad. Sexy is bad. Just kill each other, that is fine with us.
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[10:01:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score:3, Informative) 02moved to video, not canceled - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:01:39] <exec> 08└─It's not canceled. It's been moved to video [heatst.com]. I guess they figure that Assange would be physically at risk outside like that.
[10:01:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Mission Accomplished - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:01:40] <exec> 08└─Due to a computer error, the Ecuadorian Embassy was incorrectly targeted as the location of Assad. This caused an automated drone attack that was not caught by our operators in time. The Unites States of America sincerely regrets the error. Does anyone think Hillary wouldn't kill a man or two to get...
[10:01:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mission Accomplished - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:01:42] <exec> 08└─What makes you think she hasn't already?
[10:01:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:SoylentNews is old people - 06Why Kernel Development Still Uses Email - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:01:53] <exec> 08└─Of course Linus uses GitHub; Linus invented Git. GitHub is the trendy social site for young coderz but Torvalds is no Zuckerberg.
[10:01:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Linus is an old man - 06Why Kernel Development Still Uses Email - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:01:56] <exec> 08└─Where "old people" means "people who don't fall for the latest fad"?
[10:01:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The criticism against GitHub is nonsensical. - 06Why Kernel Development Still Uses Email - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:02:00] <exec> 08└─hundreds of ignored patches that don't go through review in mainline that are routinely ignored
[10:02:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:The criticism against GitHub is nonsensical. - 06Why Kernel Development Still Uses Email - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:02:02] <exec> 08└─If a single ignored patch makes you quit coding forever (as opposed to just quit trying to contribute to that project) then your coding ambitions were probably not that strong anyway, so you likely would have quit coding quite soon even if that patch had been accepted.
[10:02:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:Which Just Goes To Show... - 06US Hands Internet Control To ICANN - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:02:33] <exec> 08└─Do you disagree with that assessment? Actually yes I do disagree with it. He may be disliked in your circles but not amongst mine. I personally think he should be voted out.
[10:03:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:03:34] <exec> 08└─I had not written clearly. I attempted sarcasm, but neglected to identify it as such. Later I explained what my meaning was: /comments.pl?sid=15807&cid=409284#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] Apparently you didn't see the clarification, so my writing style caused you to waste nearly an hour and a half...
[10:03:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:03:40] <exec> 08└─Consider, idiot with bad credit inherits the house next to yours.
[10:03:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Breakign news, guys - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:03:49] <exec> 08└─Data is basist.
[10:03:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02The Biggest Math Problem - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:03:51] <exec> 08└─The biggest problem in the Black community is that 90%+ vote for Democrats. This means they get pretty talking points and dog whistles from them, and are ignored by Republicans who have given up.
[10:04:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Gamergate is forever - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:04:36] <exec> 08└─the way the Progressives have corrupted pretty much all of Western Civ outside of gaming.
[10:05:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:2) 02Re:Weird wording... - 06Robin Williams' Widow Susan Schneider Williams Pens Heartbreaking Essay About His Final Months - 901 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:05:15] <exec> 08└─And language evolves, and allegory, metaphor and simile exist. Terrorism, from Latin for "to frighten", i.e. the act of frightening, so terrorism is the act of invoking fright. What you've imposed is an inherently modern definition without reference to any etymology of the word in use. Terrorism, sa...
[10:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mr. Kerry was trying to explain - 06Leaked Audio Contains John Kerry Explaining America's Inability to Act in Syria - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:09:47] <exec> 08└─I take it you missed a lot of reality and logic. The ISIS aren't supported by Assad. So perhaps the USA should help Assad to crush the ISIS, just like Russia is doing?
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[11:01:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02October surprise for Donald J. Trump? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:01:47] <exec> 08└─One commentator applied the term "October surprise" to the leak to the New York Times of Mr. Trump's 1995 tax form, according to which he reported $915,729,293 in losses. http://www.nytimes.com [nytimes.com] http://webcitation.org [webcitation...
[11:02:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The criticism against GitHub is nonsensical. - 06Why Kernel Development Still Uses Email - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:02:04] <exec> 08└─Did Doc Brown stop inventing things just because nobody respected him? 7/ Continue coding ambitions privately in basement and let the community burn in hell.
[11:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The criticism against GitHub is nonsensical. - 06Why Kernel Development Still Uses Email - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:02:05] <exec> 08└─That's pretty pathetic. Especially at #5. #6 is good riddance.
[11:03:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03cloud.pt [5516] (Score:1) 02Throttlestop also having issues - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:03:13] <exec> 08└─Some people also reporting Throttlestop having issues with latest update [reddit.com]. If you read carefully, not even the latest version by the dev seems working to some that have automatic updates on. FYI, some people can't really use their computers without the likes of Throttlestop or ParkContro...
[11:03:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:03:45] <exec> 08└─The only other option is to charge everyone else more and 'redistribute' it to bad risks. There is also a word for that philosophy.
[11:03:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:This site is the wrong color... - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:03:51] <exec> 08└─Then you missed the whole point of it being submitted. It wasn't to talk about the subject, which is laughable, but the quality of journalism that lead to it.
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[12:01:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Keynes - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:01:37] <exec> 08└─Anyone taking anything Keynes said as serious economic discussion needs their head examined. The man put his ideals ahead of rational thought every single time.
[12:01:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Keynes - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:01:38] <exec> 08└─This is an idea that predates Keynes by a century or more. Can you debate the point of the article or just hand wave about a name you dont like?
[12:01:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Murdoc [2518] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Before Keynes... - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 1274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:01:40] <exec> 08└─This was predicted before that, by the Technical Alliance during the 1920s. And yes, the basic idea is that automation destroys purchasing power, which reduces demand while automation also increases supply. Both have the result of decreasing price, and since the rate of installation of new productio...
[12:01:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Excuse me???? - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:01:42] <exec> 08└─Capitalists would rather not create any jobs at all. The only reason a profit seeker hires somebody is in hopes of making more profit! It is government that wastes tax dollars on unproductive activity. Article's entire premise is nothing short of insane ranting.
[12:01:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Why it won't happen ever - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 845 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:01:45] <exec> 08└─The utopia won't ever happen. Here is the thought experiment to prove it: Imagine a guy (A) has 100 dollars. Now imagine another guy (B) has 0 dollars. Now imagine (B) asks (A) for half of his money. 100% of the time (A) will ask some work to be done in return. In fact, this idea is imprinted in our...
[12:01:52] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03canopic jug [3949] 02moved to video, not canceled - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 137 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:01:53] <exec> 08└─It's not canceled. It's been moved to video [heatst.com]. I guess they figure that Assange would be physically at risk outside like that.
[12:01:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:October surprise for Donald J. Trump? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:01:58] <exec> 08└─The media would LOVE an "October Surprise", which is why they will label anything "scandalous" this month with that moniker. Then they can christen it with the much beloved "-gate". Everybody knows Trump hasn't paid taxes in decades. What's the "surprise" here?
[12:01:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:October surprise for Donald J. Trump? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:02:00] <exec> 08└─> Everybody knows Trump hasn't paid taxes in decades. How do you know that? I don't know that. The New York Times writers don't claim to know that: they write The figure is so substantial that it could have allowed him to legally avoid paying federal income tax for 18 years.
[12:02:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Re:October surprise for Donald J. Trump? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 729 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:02:02] <exec> 08└─People who never do anything more daring than waiting for the check to come in probably don't realize that politicians love to "incentivize" their pet social-experiment behaviors with complicated tax laws. This often means that if you do certain things, like provide jobs for other people, you can su...
[12:02:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Linus is an old man - 06Why Kernel Development Still Uses Email - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:02:15] <exec> 08└─There's two type of people, old people and fad people.
[12:02:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:The criticism against GitHub is nonsensical. - 06Why Kernel Development Still Uses Email - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:02:21] <exec> 08└─That directly contradicts point 6.
[12:02:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02WHY "still" use email? - 06Why Kernel Development Still Uses Email - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:02:25] <exec> 08└─Why not? WTF is wrong with email? It is the most efficient and pleasant means of communication yet devised by humans, so far as I can tell. Unlike almost anything else, input can be buffered until you need it / have time for it. Interesting stuff can be retained; SPAM can (hypothetically) be filtere...
[12:02:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03zocalo [302] 02Re:Which Just Goes To Show... - 06US Hands Internet Control To ICANN - 484 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:02:48] <exec> 08└─They're giving control over to ICANN (who currently already have it), not the UN. The only difference in the arrangement today from what it was yesterday is that the NTIA has given up it's ability to override ICANN decisions, something they've hardly ever bothered to do in the first place, and even...
[12:02:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Or .. ? - 06US Hands Internet Control To ICANN - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:02:56] <exec> 08└─Cruz and other critics had argued the transfer could lead to authoritarian countries taking control of the internet and eventually censoring content throughout the world.
[12:04:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Deutsche Bank issues are beyond fines - 06Deutsche Bank Nearing Multi-Billion Dollar Settlement with U.S. Dept. of Justice - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:04:28] <exec> 08└─It still has €1.6 trillion ($1.79 trillion; £1.38 trillion) of loans outstanding. Only a small percentage of them need to go bad to wipe out the €60bn it has in capital
[12:04:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh the best way to muck up your business.... - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 1162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:04:50] <exec> 08└─Thanks for not confusing alt-right with MRA. Now I will tell you that there are two genders: those who can give birth and those who can't. Can you give birth? Then stay in the harem and king will protect and provide for you. And if not, then you get to shove bricks, dig holes, cut lumber or get into...
[12:04:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03loic [5844] (Score:1) 02Re:"invest" - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:04:58] <exec> 08└─There is a return. You know, 50% of earth human population are women. Making video games a safe place for women is a long term investment.
[12:05:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:I think they're misguided - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:05:07] <exec> 08└─There is not even any plausible victory condition
[12:07:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03esperto123 [4303] (Score:2) 02Re:Read the descriptions... - 06U.S. Regulator Warns Customers About Exploding Samsung Washing Machines - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:07:13] <exec> 08└─Sorry, but I keep the position that this is far from a explosion. This is much less violent then a car crash and nobody would call a crash an explosion (unless you are in Hollywood). The description of an explosion is just news outlets trying to cash in on a completely unrelated story by the same co...
[12:07:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03AnonymousCowardNoMore [5416] 02Re:I can't see it succeeding but what do I know? - 06Sex Robot Café Aims to Offer Londoners Fellatio With Their Morning Coffee - 25 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:07:40] <exec> 08└─I was raised with manners
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[13:01:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Keynes - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:55] <exec> 08└─Of course he can't. He's just virtue-signaling, he doesn't actually understand what he's talking about.
[13:01:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Murdoc [2518] 02Before Keynes... - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 1280 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:01:56] <exec> 08└─This was predicted before that, by the Technical Alliance during the 1920s. And yes, the basic idea is that automation destroys purchasing power, which reduces demand while automation also increases supply. Both have the result of decreasing price, and since the rate of installation of new productio...
[13:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02TPS Reports - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:59] <exec> 08└─I'd like those TPS reports to be on my desk by the end of today. Mmmmkay?
[13:02:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Funny Sad - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:01] <exec> 08└─Capitalists would rather not create any jobs at all. The only reason a profit seeker hires somebody is in hopes of making more profit! It is government that wastes tax dollars on unproductive activity.
[13:02:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Re:Funny Sad - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 382 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:03] <exec> 08└─So can you give me an example of a "pointless" job that was created for the purpose of obtaining profit, in a natural monopoly, with short-term thinking, power-seeking and imperfect knowledge, but without crazy government incentives to make the pointless job exist? And then explain why the pointless...
[13:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Popeidol [35] (Score:2) 02Re:Excuse me???? - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 1218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:05] <exec> 08└─Yeah, the article is disappointing. I was hoping for a discussion about some of the inefficiencies inherent in capitalism, but instead they took a look at the state of the world and made some weird assumptions. Some of the problems he lists (corporate lawyers? stock market gaming?) are less problems...
[13:02:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Two points - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:02:09] <exec> 08└─Point 1: Given the choice between less hours and more toys and pleasures, we've collectively chosen the latter.
[13:02:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Re:Two points - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:11] <exec> 08└─go to your boss and ask to work only 20h a week... The only option he will give you is to search for another job.
[13:02:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Two points - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:13] <exec> 08└─Your healthcare needs don't go down just because you work less hours. You could argue that healthcare shouldn't be tired to employment at all, but that's a choice that benefits employers way more than citizens because it keeps people indentured.
[13:02:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02What's capitalism? - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:02:15] <exec> 08└─In capitalism, this is exactly what is not supposed to happen.
[13:02:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02RTFA before posting - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 1182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:02:17] <exec> 08└─Yes all of you idiots saying "But capitalism is the reverse of making bullshit jobs. You want less employees!!" From the article: It’s as if someone were out there making up pointless jobs just for the sake of keeping us all working. And here, precisely, lies the mystery. In capitalism, this is ex...
[13:02:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02falsifiable? - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 730 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:02:19] <exec> 08└─The problem, perhaps, is that economics is a "made up" job - and by the terms of this articles, pointless. Why do I say this? The mathematics used to describe the movement of particles in our simulations are the *bare minimum* to understand the properties of the system. Generally, the predictive pow...
[13:02:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Mission Accomplished - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:30] <exec> 08└─> What makes you think she hasn't already? I dunno. Maybe its the hundreds of millions of republican directed tax dollars spent investigating the living shit out of her and her husband that have turned up nothing more than a blowjob.
[13:02:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:October surprise for Donald J. Trump? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 764 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:34] <exec> 08└─Tremendous. Huuuuge even. His people were justifying it by saying that it proves he is the right choice for tax reform [nbcnews.com], because he is a master of loopholes. It would be ironic for them to bash NYT while quietly supporting Wikileaks, but it seems they are avoiding drawing extra attentio...
[13:02:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:October surprise for Donald J. Trump? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:36] <exec> 08└─What's the "surprise" here?
[13:02:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:October surprise for Donald J. Trump? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 518 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:40] <exec> 08└─> But the mere existence of "tax losses" is neither evidence of shady dealings nor of financial mismanagement. Everything you wrote is true. However, the story attributes the losses not to oddities of taxation but to business ventures that (as I read it) were actually unprofitable. It does use the w...
[13:02:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Re:October surprise for Donald J. Trump? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:42] <exec> 08└─Are you aware of some guarantee that every business venture will be profitable? Or that every investment will occur at the best possible time? This just feels to me like the typical mud slinging that is designed to be misinterpreted by those who have no experience with such things. And again, I'm no...
[13:02:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] 02Re:Linus is an old man - 06Why Kernel Development Still Uses Email - 68 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:53] <exec> 08└─Where "old people" means "people who don't fall for the latest fad"?
[13:03:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:The criticism against GitHub is nonsensical. - 06Why Kernel Development Still Uses Email - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:01] <exec> 08└─Our trolls are pretty pathetic. But they have quit coding forever and have nothing better to do.
[13:04:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ShadowSystems [6185] 02This is why no Win10 for me. - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 1715 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:04:01] <exec> 08└─I'm totaly blind & require a screen reader to use my computer at all. Under Win7 I can wait a day or two to find out if any given update might cripple the system (reading other forums like this one to hear the hue & cry) & if the update is broken then refuse to install it. If push comes to shove I c...
[13:04:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:This is why no Win10 for me. - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:04:08] <exec> 08└─A quick web search turned up this site: https://opensource.com [opensource.com] Perhaps one of the eight distros mentioned will be to your liking.
[13:04:41] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03NotSanguine [285] 02Re:Fuck - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 681 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:04:41] <exec> 08└─Nice idea. Too bad it is illegal. Ever heard of "Disparate Impact" as a legal concept? It says that if you are handing out licenses to practice medicine and your process doesn't have the same percentage of any 'Protected Minority" (and the list grows, MENA in currently being split from White for the...
[13:05:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Biggest Math Problem - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:05:01] <exec> 08└─The biggest problem in the Black community is that 90%+ vote for Democrats. This means they get pretty talking points and dog whistles from them, and are ignored by Republicans who have given up.
[13:05:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:"invest" - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:05:40] <exec> 08└─is that she does actually like many of the games she goes on to criticise
[13:05:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:"invest" - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 2759 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:05:44] <exec> 08└─Not necessarily true. For example I caught my SiL playing Farmville. Not seven years ago, but just a couple months ago when we visited her house and she had to harvest someones zucchini or WTF while the easter brunch cooked in the (real world) oven. Consider the financials. They can monetize by sell...
[13:06:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:Garbage - 06Want to Appear Attractive? Hang Around with an Ugly Friend. - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:06:19] <exec> 08└─The researchers have no real way to objectively measure how attractive someone thinks someone else is
[13:07:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02defense contractor - 06U.S. Regulator Warns Customers About Exploding Samsung Washing Machines - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:07:54] <exec> 08└─Samsung split off their defense and weapons production as a separate company ages ago.
[13:08:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Nanny - 06U.S. Regulator Warns Customers About Exploding Samsung Washing Machines - 547 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:08:01] <exec> 08└─It's a bit surprising, as their front-loading models do this. That said, the grandparent is correct: if you read the reviews for their washer-dryers, they're full of people who don't read the bit of the manual that says that the capacity for different cycles is different and fill it up with a 9kg lo...
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[14:01:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Chocolate - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:01:50] <exec> 08└─> Chocolate A very large number of cacao bean farmers have never even tasted chocolate. [npr.org] Just sayin...
[14:01:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Chocolate - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:01:51] <exec> 08└─But can they taste money?
[14:01:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Chocolate - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:01:53] <exec> 08└─In a barter system you can generally taste money... :)
[14:01:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02wheat/hops, etc. - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:01:55] <exec> 08└─Won't places like Russia and Canada just grow the necessary crops? Siberia could become a new frontier in farming. Clean water is also becoming an issue in the west with droughts and reduced snowpack.
[14:01:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:wheat/hops, etc. - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:01:57] <exec> 08└─Canada and Russia also have a lot of the planet's available fresh water.
[14:01:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Move to Canada - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:02:00] <exec> 08└─that might not be around for long
[14:02:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Move to Canada - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 457 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:02] <exec> 08└─Paradoxically I worked in a food store a long time ago as a starving student and based solely on sales, americans don't use maple syrup and badly confuse tinted corn syrup with maple syrup. So if maple syrup goes away (aka moves to Canada) then like 1% of the population being foodies will freak out...
[14:02:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Move to Canada - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 587 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:04] <exec> 08└─As a luxury good, its already almost like arguing if doubling the price of the latest Lamborghini would increase or decrease sales. In a culture where all cars are called Lamborghinis even though 99.9% of the population buys something like a Yaris and calls it a Lamborghini anyway. I would rather no...
[14:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Nothing - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:02:06] <exec> 08└─What can we do about it?
[14:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02greenhouse - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 2034 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:02:08] <exec> 08└─Something interesting to 14af think about is most of the strawberries eaten locally come from local greenhouses. Its too dang cold for too much of the year to grow strawberries. They're too delicate to ship across the planet. What people are willing to pay works out pretty well vs what it costs to...
[14:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Keynes - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 586 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:20] <exec> 08└─Except that by those standards, Milton Friedman, in the running for most important economist of the 20th century, was a complete nutter: Keynes was a great economist. In every discipline, progress comes from people who make hypotheses, most of which turn out to be wrong, but all of which ultimately...
[14:02:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Funny Sad - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:27] <exec> 08└─> without crazy government incentives to make the pointless job exist? Can you point to a society without a government? Then you can't point to a job that exists without government influence. Ergo my point about absolute dumbasses who think economics is ever some pure, idealized and coldly rational...
[14:02:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:Funny Sad - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:29] <exec> 08└─um, you mean just about the whole 'financial' economy and all the masters of the universe parasites who inhabit that alternate universe ? ? ?
[14:02:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03number11 [1170] 02Re:Excuse me???? - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:32] <exec> 08└─"Capitalism wants to maximize profit in whatever situation it's in, and the structures and rules surrounding it currently benefit those behaviors. " Let's not confuse "profit" with "benefit".
[14:02:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03quintessence [6227] (Score:2) 02Re:Excuse me???? - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 1429 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:34] <exec> 08└─One of the problems with the conventions of the market is that there is NO distinguishment between paid and unpaid labor. Most people work fairly hard at things that are necessary for them. Problem is most of it is unpaid. Should I decide that wiping my own ass is too much of a bother, BLAM! I've cr...
[14:02:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why it won't happen ever - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:37] <exec> 08└─You are just begging the question. Your model is predicated on the have-nots literally having nothing of value. That's not true at all and without that premise your thesis completely falls apart. Furthermore, the amount of severe poverty has been dramatically reduced world-wide over just the last 20...
[14:02:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Two points - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:42] <exec> 08└─One could argue that healthcare is the reason (it's too expensive to provide insurance for twice as many employees if they're all working only 20 hours each) but that doesn't explain why 40-hour weeks are still normal even in countries with socialized health care that isn't tied to the employer.
[14:02:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Two points - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:45] <exec> 08└─So, "we" didn't choose - management did.
[14:02:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:RTFA before posting - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 338 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:49] <exec> 08└─The pointless jobs aren't pointless to the people who are profiting from them; not so much the employees, but follow the money trail, you'll find decision makers getting richer because they created these pointless jobs. And, no, this isn't capitalism at work, it's various incentive structures, espec...
[14:02:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:RTFA before posting - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:51] <exec> 08└─The article is about administrative creep more than anything.
[14:02:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Lolwut - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:54] <exec> 08└─> And in this whole article the author did not have the brains to cite Douglas Adams. Lolwut? You complain about the fact the economics is a branch of psychology and not a so-called "hard science" and one of your major criticisms is that this author did not cite Dilbert. Maybe we need a better under...
[14:02:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lolwut - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:56] <exec> 08└─There has even be an economy professor [wikipedia.org] who said that economy has more to do with astrology than astronomy,
[14:02:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score:2) 02Re:falsifiable? - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:58] <exec> 08└─I was going to mod you up, but nobody was paying me to do this pointless task, so I did not.
[14:03:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Pointless jobs - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:03:01] <exec> 08└─In capitalism, this is exactly what is not supposed to happen.
[14:03:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:moved to video, not canceled - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:11] <exec> 08└─Ugh. That website is super spinny. They said: In August, liberal commentator Bob Beckel did suggest in a TV appearance that Assange be murdered, proclaiming that someone should “shoot the son of a bitch!”
[14:03:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:Mission Accomplished - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:16] <exec> 08└─Yea, well, dead men tell no tales...
[14:03:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mission Accomplished - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:18] <exec> 08└─> Yea, well, dead men tell no tales... Typical intertard conspiracy logic. Lack of proof is proof!
[14:03:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:2) 02Re:October surprise for Donald J. Trump? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:28] <exec> 08└─Imagine a terrorist setting unbelievers on fire. Horrible, right? Now recall the Christian god's hell. Equally sadistic.
[14:03:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:WHY "still" use email? - 06Why Kernel Development Still Uses Email - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:51] <exec> 08└─Because too many people think is something isn't new, it can't be good. And therefore we get lots of "innovations" which basically do the same as what they replace, only with the useful parts removed.
[14:05:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:We're the phone company ... - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:05:01] <exec> 08└─Are you referring to the recent successful $220M bid by Telstra for the Australian Bowel Cancer Screening Register where Telstra purchased 4 companies because they have zero experience running a federal health system? What could possibly go wrong.
[14:05:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Supergrub2 - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:05:03] <exec> 08└─Dual boot? Fsck that. Linux only, with Windows in a VM
[14:05:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Give us more facts jmorris - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:05:34] <exec> 08└─It is a fact that every graduating class has above average, average and below average doctors. It is a fact that unless you spend a fair amount of effort can't know which group YOUR doctor is in. It is a fact any minority (other than Jew or Asian) was awarded bonus points on admission and special co...
[14:05:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This site is the wrong color... - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:05:46] <exec> 08└─That is the point of the complaint. Its just another buzzardshit post, purely ideological with the transparent facade of impartiality.
[14:05:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:This site is the wrong color... - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:05:48] <exec> 08└─If you don't want to actually talk about the article itself, just wait for the next submission that everybody doesn't like. Don't submit another one that everybody doesn't like.
[14:07:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Yakima, WA - 06Want to Appear Attractive? Hang Around with an Ugly Friend. - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:07:12] <exec> 08└─Being a male resident of Yakima, WA (land of the Braindead), I have found it to my advantage to be poor, fat, bald, ugly, and smelly, because it repels the undercover female cops (decoys).
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[15:01:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Webweasel [567] (Score:2) 02I'd like to see more of this - 06Reykjavik Turns Off Lights for Clearer View of Aurora - 677 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:01:51] <exec> 08└─I tried to watch the Perseids this year. I try and watch them every year, but the UK has been overcast in my area for the last 5 years. It was supposed to be one of the better years, 150 or so an hour. In 3 hours I saw two. All down to light pollution. The sky glows at night along the horizon due to...
[15:02:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Chocolate - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:03] <exec> 08└─I guess they won't miss it when they are gone, and instead can focus on replacing you and doing IT services? Not sure what relevance this has. I haven't tasted any of the servers I work on, either.
[15:02:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:wheat/hops, etc. - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 2260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:06] <exec> 08└─I enjoyed reading the wikipedia articles and in summary at least WRT rainfall and temps the further north you go the better it gets. Southern Europe, not gonna be much fun, tropical anywhere not gonna be fun, Canada and Russia will be net average winners. Its a problem in that the geology is built a...
[15:02:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Re:Nothing - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:12] <exec> 08└─There is no evidence for death; only extended sleep. There is only hear-say, wikipedia pages and politician's rhetorics to keep the populace scared, subdued and obedient.
[15:02:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Why it's hard to take the warmists seriously - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 1107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:15] <exec> 08└─This is the kind of article that discredits climate research. PANIC. OMG, the world is ENDING! Articles like this are - even in the worst-case scenarios - ridiculous. If the planet continues to warm, areas suitable for particular crops will shift. Even in the worst-case scenarios, this will happen o...
[15:02:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Keynes - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:29] <exec> 08└─Careful, much of what is presented as Keynesian economics didn't originate with Keynes. The guy you want to blame for that is Samuelson. He bastardized much of Keynes work after the latters death, in an effort to make it fit the very economic thinking that Keynes attacked.
[15:02:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Funny Sad - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:38] <exec> 08└─Real Estate Developer? Although they tend to get their tendrils into local government to "speed along" approval of projects.
[15:02:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Funny Sad - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:40] <exec> 08└─It's usually the capitalists behind why the crazy government incentives exist. I give you the RIAA. Please take them from us.
[15:02:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Moof123 [5927] (Score:1) 02Re:Funny Sad - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:42] <exec> 08└─Tehnical writer. Anything associated with ISO 9000.
[15:02:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Funny Sad - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:44] <exec> 08└─Close, although it depends on your field some .gov contracts require ISO9000 certification. Or if not require, its "strongly prefer". So back to the .gov to blame.
[15:02:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Spook brat [775] (Score:2) 02In defense of middle managers - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:50] <exec> 08└─That's not to say we couldn't send most middle managers to Mars with little more than a hiccup to productivity.
[15:02:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Why it won't happen ever - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:54] <exec> 08└─Here is the thought experiment to prove it: Imagine a guy (A) has 100 dollars. Now imagine another guy (B) has 0 dollars. Now imagine (B) asks (A) for half of his money. 100% of the time (A) will ask some work to be done in return.
[15:02:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Why it won't happen ever - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 1251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:56] <exec> 08└─Marx labor theory of value at its finest. People spend money on all kinds of things not just raw labor. Money grubbing dude could have rented or sold property or product, organized some financial time value of money scheme (presumably there exists a labor market for A to hire B in just as much as B...
[15:03:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:What's capitalism? - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:03:04] <exec> 08└─and for a highly optimistic value of "can afford"
[15:03:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Moof123 [5927] (Score:1) 02Re:RTFA before posting - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 794 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:03:09] <exec> 08└─Old saying: "I know I am wasting half of my marketing money, I just don't know which half." A lot of work is reactionary to previous calamity. You add audits and procedures every time a problem comes up, no matter if the "fix" was a fluke or if the "fix" costs more than the problem ever did. Soon co...
[15:03:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lolwut - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:03:14] <exec> 08└─Wrong Adams...
[15:03:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03driven [6295] (Score:1) 02Bullshit article - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:03:18] <exec> 08└─Professor of Anthropology opines on "bullshit jobs". How ironic. If you want to stay in the dark ages then almost all jobs could be considered bullshit jobs. Just farm your food, trap your meat, raise children. Nothing else is really "needed".
[15:03:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:2) 02Tragic That Many Do Not Already Know - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 423 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:03:22] <exec> 08└─This isn't a great article. It relies on personal anecdotes and vague analysis. But its underlying premise is undeniably true: we as a society do more work than we need to do to keep society running, and the people actually engaged in the important work are the least respected. What I find shocking...
[15:03:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fnord666 [652] (Score:2) 02Edge Case - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:03:24] <exec> 08└─Just remember that to an economist, the real world is an edge case.
[15:03:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02warfare model - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:03:26] <exec> 08└─And these numbers do not even reflect on all those people whose job is to provide ... security support
[15:03:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02did we choose? - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:03:28] <exec> 08└─Or were we hoodwinked into thinking we did by the likes of Bernays and other advertisement (He called it Public Relations) people?
[15:03:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:October surprise for Donald J. Trump? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:03:52] <exec> 08└─Now those are some big losses. I don't know why they arose; I can't be bothered to care because I'm not going to be voting for Trump. But the mere existence of "tax losses" is neither evidence of shady dealings nor of financial mismanagement.
[15:06:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:This site is the wrong color... - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:10] <exec> 08└─Impartiality? I seriously doubt I've ever claimed that as my modus operandi. We're not a news site, we're a news discussion site. And unless I'm talking about official site policy, my views are my own. The only time I'm impartial is when I'm doing admin duties because nobody else is handy to cover t...
[15:06:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:This site is the wrong color... - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:12] <exec> 08└─Why not? We do enjoy a good trashing of crappy articles round these parts.
[15:06:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:2) 02math destruction - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:06:21] <exec> 08└─It isn't about math. It's about the use of algorithms to affect peoples' lives without serious attempt to make sure the algorithms are actually making the right decisions. The problem is the following mentality: It's hard to decide what's the right thing to to, so we'll program a computer. Never mi...
[15:06:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oh the best way to muck up 2000 your business.... - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:57] <exec> 08└─Now I will tell you that there are two genders: those who can give birth and those who can't.
[15:07:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Garbage - 06Want to Appear Attractive? Hang Around with an Ugly Friend. - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:40] <exec> 08└─Nevertheless there is a strong general consensus on attractiveness.
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[16:02:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kilo110 [2853] (Score:2) 02Re:I'd like to see more of this - 06Reykjavik Turns Off Lights for Clearer View of Aurora - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:09] <exec> 08└─I've lived on the East Coast US my entire life and never cared for the sky. Maybe a dozen or so stars are visible at night. Last year I was fortunate enough to be able to travel to Japan and climb Mt. Fuji at night. The night sky above the clouds and pollution was breath taking. I've knew academical...
[16:02:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score:2) 02Re:I'd like to see more of this - 06Reykjavik Turns Off Lights for Clearer View of Aurora - 607 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:10] <exec> 08└─I know how you feel, I had the same experience in the UK and the Perseids for the last few years. And when I had to move back to the big city for work, the light pollution ruined everything. I am lucky to see three stars at night due to the glare. It is so bad that since moving here 3 years ago, I h...
[16:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Chocolate - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:23] <exec> 08└─It's one of the known problems with Fairtrade. While a nice idea in theory, it ends up artificially increasing the value of export crops, which makes them more attractive for landowners to grow than crops for domestic consumption. This pushes up the price of food locally, but because the export crop...
[16:02:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:Move to Canada - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:31] <exec> 08└─And… *drools*… it's soo worth it. Quick! We need to science the shit out of this. We need a crack team of engineers to build giant climate controlled domes so we can continue to grow maple trees! Perhaps we can build a network of canals [wikipedia.org] to bring water to these maple syrup product...
[16:02:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Move to Canada - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:33] <exec> 08└─If we want to science the shit out of maple syrup, I'm reminded of this endeavor: https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org] Just recreate it on a molecular level, out of whatever shitty sources of biomass your area can grow. It's a step towards the Star Trek/HHGTTG future.
[16:02:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why it's hard to take the warmists seriously - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 493 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:39] <exec> 08└─> Sea levels have been rising for thousands of years, and will continue to do so: at a rate of a couple of millimeters per year. This is the kind of post that discredits climate deniers. Even a couple of millimeters per year is significant because (a) its not evenly distributed and (b) points of inf...
[16:02:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Huge sack of crap - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:02:41] <exec> 08└─Some crops might fall out - sure. But beer? Considering all the different ways we make beer, from all the different crops ranging from hardy cold weather grains to hot and dry, with hops that grows like a weed from hell in large parts of the world depending on the variety of hops... Yeah. SOME kinds...
[16:02:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Huge sack of crap - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 683 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:43] <exec> 08└─Well, on one hand, any kind of beer disappearing from the world is about the closest thing to "intolerable heresy" that I can develop a sense for. On the other hand, I think there's likely going to be many years of climate shift as the area toward the poles becomes more and more warm. Those places w...
[16:02:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Keynes - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:57] <exec> 08└─Yup, that's me. SJW who spends all his time trying to convince other SJWs how much he feels the pain of the 2000 oppressed. Look at my shiny virtue and be awed.
[16:02:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Keynes - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 558 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:59] <exec> 08└─Lol, you think only SJWs have virtue. That's funny. Here's a clue for fools like you — all those terms like SJW, virtue-signaling, tree-hugger, feminazi, etc dreamt up by reactionaries to dismiss the arguments of people they consider enemies aren't really about their enemies, they are about themse...
[16:03:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Keynes - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:01] <exec> 08└─At the time I posted, the latter. I had to go do actual work very shortly afterwards.
[16:03:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Funny Sad - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:12] <exec> 08└─> Real Estate Developer? > > Although they tend to get their tendrils into local government to "speed along" approval of projects. Ya think? Seriously, its not even close. The hidden story of Trump's tax return isn't the billion dollar loss, its the $16M dollar "loss" in the “Rental real estate, r...
[16:03:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Funny Sad - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 1425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:16] <exec> 08└─Well, that's just it. Even in for-profit businesses, most decisions are made not with the goal of increasing profit but with the goal of increasing the salary and power of the person making the decision. And that includes hiring decisions. For example, let's say we have an ambitious but not overly c...
[16:03:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Two points - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:31] <exec> 08└─There's a very easy way of doing this: work remotely. There are numerous studies that show that for 'knowledge worker' occupations, productivity peaks at 20 hours a week, plateaus until 40, and then drops off. Most employers won't be able to tell if you're working 20 or 40 hours a week, because (unl...
[16:03:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Re:RTFA before posting - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:37] <exec> 08└─And that, my friend, is caused by excessive government regulation, where we have unelected bureaucrats who spend 40 hours per week writing rules for everyone else.
[16:04:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:October surprise for Donald J. Trump? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:04:13] <exec> 08└─While I don't disagree with your overall sentiment, can you really judge someone from their circumstances from 20 years ago? I mean, I do, but I think Trump sucks as much as I think that Clinton is still a right-wing warmongering racist who desires censorship.
[16:04:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:October surprise for Donald J. Trump? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:04:14] <exec> 08└─can you really judge someone from their circumstances from 20 years ago?
[16:04:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02A Nice Analysis of the Tax Issue - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:04:16] <exec> 08└─Interesting commentary [youtube.com] on the tax issue.
[16:04:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A Nice Analysis of the Tax Issue - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:04:19] <exec> 08└─I stopped after 10 seconds of some model's personal history. No idea what the point of the video was supposed to be, but I can guess based on the beginning.... If you can't see that he is a lying conman (not that Hillary is any better in my opinion) then seek a priest, for you are too far gone for t...
[16:04:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Bernstein 2.0 - 06EFF Asks Court to Block U.S. From Prosecuting Security Researcher - 2407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:04:51] <exec> 08└─Did constitutional lawyers determine if the actual law was unconstitutional, or is that just what they believe is the case because the hacker ethos demands that information must be free? Whenever I read "blah blah unconstitutional" or "evil and nefarious" etc, I always am curious to know who made th...
[16:05:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03ShadowSystems [6185] (Score:1) 02At butthurt re distros. - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 2309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:05:45] <exec> 08└─Thank you for that info. Enjoy a six pack of your favorite imbibement on me in gratitude. *Raises my caffeine tankard in toast... Clink* I'm aware of using either Escape or F12 to reach the boot menu & hoping it presents the options in the same order, unfortunately Murphy likes to mess with me. She...
[16:05:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score:2) 02Re:This is why no Win10 for me. - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 538 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:05:46] <exec> 08└─> It does, however, include the dreaded systemd. And for those who desire Debian without systemd, there is devuan (https://devuan.org/), which is the same as Debian (includes the same installer and assistive technology) but without Pottering-ware. As for the BIOS and assistive tech, that is a bit ha...
[16:05:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:2) 02Re:This is why no Win10 for me. - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:05:49] <exec> 08└─If systemd is an objection, try Devuan, which is Debian without systemd, and without anything that truly depends on systemd. But I don't know how good its accessibility support is.
[16:05:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03ShadowSystems [6185] (Score:1) 02At Aiwendil re Webcam. - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 1488 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:05:52] <exec> 08└─First, I don't have a webcam. I know they're useful for stuff like Skype & such, but as a blind person I can't see (metaphoricly nor physicly) the use. It's not like I can see whom I'm talking to anyway, so why should I let them see me? Besides, that means wearing clothes... pants? BAH! =-D Second,...
[16:06:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:This site is the wrong color... - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:46] <exec> 08└─Speak for yourself. "We" sounds doubtful.
[16:08:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Garbage - 06Want to Appear Attractive? Hang Around with an Ugly Friend. - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:11] <exec> 08└─Here's an old article by Jared Diamond
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[17:01:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Translator's note: Mirai means Future - 06Mirai IoT Botnet Source Code Released - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:01:56] <exec> 08└─This trivia brought to you by Animé, a youth well wasted.
[17:01:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Translator's note: Mirai means Future - 06Mirai IoT Botnet Source Code Released - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:01:57] <exec> 08└─Oh yeah... mirai nikki. Yandere ftw.
[17:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Waaaaanker - 06Mirai IoT Botnet Source Code Released - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:01:59] <exec> 08└─Made their money and now getting out.. Fuck these twats. The only good part is that the flaws are exposed, everything else is just screwing with what amounts to public infrastructure.
[17:02:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:I'd like to see more of this - 06Reykjavik Turns Off Lights for Clearer View of Aurora - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:10] <exec> 08└─This seems oblig. International Dark Sky Parks [darksky.org]. It looks like there's a few locations in the UK.
[17:02:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:2) 02Re:wheat/hops, etc. - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:27] <exec> 08└─Western Canada gets much of its rainfall from glaciers in the mountains. They are shrinking. When they disappear, in maybe a decade or two, western Canada may well turn into a dust bowl unless another source of water steps up to replace the glaciers.
[17:02:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nothing - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:36] <exec> 08└─No, you are wrong. There IS evidence for death. It is called decay and aposynthesis. Now crawl back to your hole, and tell your globalist master scum that rebranding "global warming" as "climate change" is not going to work, nor will any of the rest of NASA bullshit.
[17:02:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why it's hard to take the warmists seriously - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:41] <exec> 08└─> tornados are not more frequent, But they are more intense. The odds of having a day with at least 32 tornadoes have more than doubled, [springer.com]
[17:02:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Huge sack of crap - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 428 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:45] <exec> 08└─Yip. And potatoes? They grow everywhere and are so easy, they are probably the most common accidentally grown vegetable around. I think the world would have to be messed up to the point that it is impossible for anything to grow before potatoes will not grow. The truth is, most plants are going to p...
[17:03:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:Keynes - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:02] <exec> 08└─Ok, way off topic. Is TERF one of those terms as well? I realize it gets all wibbly-wobbly real quick and in a hurry. I'm having trouble distinguishing feminazi from TERF from radfem and where that all fits into recent herstory at the moment.
[17:03:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Funny Sad - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:20] <exec> 08└─I love it! Ask and ye shall receive. But does Justin have the ability to acknowledge a mistaken point?
[17:03:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03dingus [5224] (Score:2) 02Re:Excuse me???? - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 1628 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:23] <exec> 08└─It's a mistake to think that Capitalism and the State can ever remain distinct. Anyway, I think what the author was trying to say was something like the tree scenario. Suppose you start with a flat bed of moss. Each little patch of moss gets the same amount of sunlight, and pretty much gets it for f...
[17:03:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Excuse me???? - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:27] <exec> 08└─It is government that wastes tax dollars on unproductive activity.
[17:03:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Excuse me???? - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:30] <exec> 08└─Also, private firms get public contracts. I'm sure they're all the perfect picture of capitalist efficiency. No wasted money while on a gov contract, noooo sir.
[17:03:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why it won't happen ever - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:34] <exec> 08└─I modded you +1 coz you cited a perfect example of "begging the question" cheers,
[17:03:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Why it won't happen ever - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:36] <exec> 08└─Your model is predicated on the have-nots literally having nothing of value.
[17:03:37] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:Why it won't happen ever - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 231 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:38] <exec> 08└─Here is the thought experiment to prove it: Imagine a guy (A) has 100 dollars. Now imagine another guy (B) has 0 dollars. Now imagine (B) asks (A) for half of his money. 100% of the time (A) will ask some work to be done in return.
[17:03:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Why it won't happen ever - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:40] <exec> 08└─No I understand that people give away stuff all the time. I have done it myself. I am saying that a) NOT ALL people give away stuff b) ONE person who doesn't give stuff is enough to show utopia doesn't exist. For as long as (a) is true, (b) cannot be held together.
[17:03:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03dingus [5224] (Score:2) 02Re:Why it won't happen ever - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:43] <exec> 08└─Most Communists/socialists don't believe in utopia either. We do, however, think that it is possible to have a society where the power of assholes to fuck with other people is diminished significantly.
[17:03:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score:2) 02Re:Two points - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:49] <exec> 08└─One could argue that healthcare is the reason (it's too expensive to provide insurance for twice as many employees if they're all working only 20 hours each) but that doesn't explain why 40-hour weeks are still normal even in countries with socialized health care that isn't tied to the employer.
[17:04:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mission Accomplished - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:04:15] <exec> 08└─If that's all you think has been uncovered then you have only been exposed to CTR'd sources, or you're deliberately lying to mislead.
[17:04:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:October surprise for Donald J. Trump? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:04:25] <exec> 08└─Are you aware of some guarantee that every business venture will be profitable? Or that every investment will occur at the best possible time?
[17:04:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Why a surprise in October? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:04:32] <exec> 08└─My worry is that Assange hasn't been sitting on this explosive information for months. I fear that he's been working for months having folks build up a detailed fake. One that can't be conclusively debunked in four weeks. Then he can release it in October, let it do its damage, then we can figure ou...
[17:04:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:The criticism against GitHub is nonsensical. - 06Why Kernel Development Still Uses Email - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:04:55] <exec> 08└─We're all old devs and we all know why the BSDs stick to their broken centralized CVS development model
[17:06:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:2) 02re MS - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 840 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:06:01] <exec> 08└─Oh, man! I wish I could dictate to my clients what they should do, but mostly I'm involved as a troubleshooter, fixing messes made by someone else and I have no choice but to use the software (O.S. and applications) they already have... I do suggest that they change, but people are too deeply involv...
[17:06:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fuck - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:06:45] <exec> 08└─Ya, for those of us not knowing enough info off the cuff during an Interneconversation, yes always include a direct reference. Too easy to write off comments.
[17:06:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fuck - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 778 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:06:57] <exec> 08└─Yes, because what humanity really needs is a sociopathic system that does not value human life. Or worse, that values human life with an actual numeric value. The "system" exists to serve humanity but there are always those who want to game the system for their own selfish goals. Insurance is alread...
[17:07:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03zugedneb [4556] (Score:1) 02Re:Oh the best way to muck up your business.... - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 545 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:47] <exec> 08└─funny though, that it is among the bad white man that the women became free, or they "fought" for it, as they themselves see it... it is probably that the intellectual evolution of the white man made him loose interest in slaves, and thus free and educate the woman. and it is here they spill the mos...
[17:07:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh the best way to muck up your business.... - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:52] <exec> 08└─I know what's in the dictionary and I know who is writing it [mashable.com]. Do we talk about gender discrimination or sex discrimination? I meant exactly what I said, which is gender discrimination.
[17:08:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Translation - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:08:15] <exec> 08└─Ya no kidding! I love how the male stereotypes are completely ignored. Giant muscles, characters are a "mans man", etc. Men are tough, women are pretty. This is a biological thing and both aspects get taken to extremes. Most games are fine, I think too many people just don't have anything better to...
[17:11:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03gidds [589] (Score:2) 02Stocks aren't comparable - 06Using Big Data to Monitor Societal Events Shows Promise, but the Coding Tech Needs Work - 1113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:11:29] <exec> 08└─The case of stock markets is a little different, though, as those have massive levels of feedback and second-guessing.  All the participants are trying to guess what all the other participants are going to do. (That's why the only ways to get ahead are (A) know something other participants don't kn...
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[18:02:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02referring to yourself as senpai? - 06Mirai IoT Botnet Source Code Released - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:01] <exec> 08└─Wouldn't referring to yourself as senpai be kind of arrogant? It means something like "senior" does not it? In any case, one senpai that I hope doesn't notice me.
[18:02:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02I am glad - 06Mirai IoT Botnet Source Code Released - 600 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:04] <exec> 08└─I am glad it wasn't a state actor. You can bet that state actors will never release source code to their exploits. It might get 'released' unofficially by insiders. Lets say Israel had developed this scheme, do you think you'd be hearing about it? All you will _NOT_ hear is the voice of dissent that...
[18:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I am glad - 06Mirai IoT Botnet Source Code Released - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:06] <exec> 08└─Good point but I won't get baited into accepting the lesser of two evils. Fuck em' both.
[18:02:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:Move to Canada - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:40] <exec> 08└─"Of course this covers all species in all areas, for example unless you live in or around New Orleans today you probably have no idea what a "spruce pine" is." Huh? This is a long ways from New Orleans: http://www.sprucepine-nc.gov
[18:02:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nothing - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:45] <exec> 08└─No need "to do" something: there is no such thing as "climate change".
[18:02:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Boo - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:54] <exec> 08└─More scare tactics.
[18:03:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Funny Sad - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:03:24] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Fruit_Company [wikipedia.org] https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[18:03:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:Funny Sad - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 1425 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:03:27] <exec> 08└─Well, that's just it. Even in for-profit businesses, most decisions are made not with the goal of increasing profit but with the goal of increasing the salary and power of the person making the decision. And that includes hiring decisions. For example, let's say we have an ambitious but not overly c...
[18:03:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:In defense of middle managers - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 672 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:03:35] <exec> 08└─you have put your finger on the nub of the problem: large korporations... they are only necessary for destroying competition, NOT for the actual making and distributing of widgets ( the supposed goal)... i know in just about ALL the firms i worked for that got above mom and pop size, there was alway...
[18:03:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Two points - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:03:53] <exec> 08└─These days, people are still asking to work a 20h week because they can't get anywhere near that many hours.
[18:04:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Mission Accomplished - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 233 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:10] <exec> 08└─> What makes you think she hasn't already? I dunno. Maybe its the hundreds of millions of republican directed tax dollars spent investigating the living shit out of her and her husband that have turned up nothing more than a blowjob.
[18:04:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:October surprise for Donald J. Trump? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:20] <exec> 08└─Hillary has been a criminal for decades and is teflon otherwise she'd be in prison with every other criminal like her. I suppose it helps her that people around her keep showing up dead for decades.
[18:04:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:October surprise for Donald J. Trump? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:22] <exec> 08└─They didn't get away with them ALL; their very important Great Evil BJ was caught, and it only cost tax payers a couple of hundreds of millions.
[18:04:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why a surprise in October? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:34] <exec> 08└─If the Wikileaks surprise isn't just some emails about matzo balls, it's going to get the most extreme media vetting in history. Many media outlets will be searching for a weakness in the material.
[18:04:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Why a surprise in October? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:35] <exec> 08└─One that can't be conclusively debunked in four weeks.
[18:04:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02October Surprise - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:04:37] <exec> 08└─October Surprise
[18:04:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:October Surprise - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:39] <exec> 08└─Remember to ask your wife about doing the Cleaveland steamer.
[18:05:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:The criticism against GitHub is nonsensical. - 06 - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:05:02] <exec> 08└─Just fork it if you feel so strongly about it.
[18:05:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The criticism against GitHub is nonsensical. - 06 - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:05:04] <exec> 08└─That comment seems completely self-contradictory. You don't use git because of the license, but use Github despite the license and the fact it uses git.
[18:05:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Custom? - 06 - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:05:08] <exec> 08└─To fit a particular org's work-flow and management style, something custom would probably have to be made. It's possible something off-the-shelf could "kind of" work, but you'll have to live with features you don't need, which may distract and confuse users. Anything off-the-shelf with enough flexib...
[18:07:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not Interested - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:07:22] <exec> 08└─"I'm not interested in the story. I'm interested in what it says about once proud CNN's current quality of journalism. Fox News: Left Division?" That sounds like an excellent reason to post it on a different, perhaps politically oriented, website. Big data's role in our lives is interesting to me. W...
[18:08:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:It doesn't matter watch Twitch says or does... - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:13] <exec> 08└─Naturally. Though mind you, there's a huge difference between playing a guy in an FPS and watching a cut scene every once in a while, or a 3rd person \ isometric centering the screen on a guy's ass all day long while you're farming.
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[19:02:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02There Is None - 06Rosetta Spacecraft Sends its Final Images of 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:02:00] <exec> 08└─There is no "spacecraft Rosetta" that "sends data from space". This is a hoax, brought to you by the clowns of NASA et al, all designed to reinforce the idea that the Earth is a randomly generated spinning globe that rotates around a randomly generated enormous ball of fusing Hydrogen. "OSIRIS", huh...
[19:02:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:There Is None - 06Rosetta Spacecraft Sends its Final Images of 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:01] <exec> 08└─Burp
[19:02:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:There Is None - 06Rosetta Spacecraft Sends its Final Images of 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:04] <exec> 08└─I'm sick of "experts" like you and NASA telling me what to think. I'm going to ask my grandma what to make of all this. Experts, pfft.
[19:02:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:Waaaaanker - 06Mirai IoT Botnet Source Code Released - 2357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:18] <exec> 08└─You have no idea the scope. It is huge and worse than you can imagine. I worked with 'IoT' for about 10 years now. Most of these dudes 'upgrade' and 'firmware patch' is an afterthought. They are so quick to get in and do everything they have no clue what it means to be secure. None. Some of the peop...
[19:02:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Waaaaanker - 06Mirai IoT Botnet Source Code Released - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:19] <exec> 08└─Cull stupid people. Smart people won't buy stupid crap. Stupid crap won't be exploited. Stupid people won't be exploited. Exploitation-based anything will cease to be a problem. Stupidity kills.
[19:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Waaaaanker - 06Mirai IoT Botnet Source Code Released - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:21] <exec> 08└─Stupid people will become the botnet that brings down everyone else.
[19:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Waaaaanker - 06Mirai IoT Botnet Source Code Released - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:23] <exec> 08└─Eugenics is bad, we're stronger as a species when we have diversity, smart people tend to have other issues as well. If you truly believe your statements then it is likely you will be one of the people culled from the herd. Also, plenty of smart people are exploited by dumber people in positions of...
[19:02:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Kilo110 [2853] 02Re:I'd like to see more of this - 06Reykjavik Turns Off Lights for Clearer View of Aurora - 413 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:33] <exec> 08└─I've lived on the East Coast US my entire life and never cared for the sky. Maybe a dozen or so stars are visible at night. Last year I was fortunate enough to be able to travel to Japan and climb Mt. Fuji at night. The night sky above the clouds and pollution was breath taking. I've knew academical...
[19:02:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:I'd like to see more of this - 06Reykjavik Turns Off Lights for Clearer View of Aurora - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:35] <exec> 08└─I suspect that was a Funny-Sad mod.
[19:02:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02CMOS image sensors do not work - 06Reykjavik Turns Off Lights for Clearer View of Aurora - 551 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:02:39] <exec> 08└─Just in the last week, I saw an active aurora Borealis for the first time in as long as I can remember. Normally, all I see at 55 degrees North, in the city, is a faint green haze. The other night (at city outskirts but not core) I was able to observe the aurora move and change (still monochromatic...
[19:02:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Light Pollution - 06Reykjavik Turns Off Lights for Clearer View of Aurora - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:02:41] <exec> 08└─Good time to mention "The City Dark" http://www.imdb.com [imdb.com] Soon no one will be aware of the stars, only the Moon, the ISS, and Iridium flares, two of which they will consider to be UFOs.
[19:03:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02Re:Move to Canada - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 585 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:04] <exec> 08└─Domes and stuff probably wouldn't be necessary if we just planted enough trees. The climatic effect of large forests will help lower the temperature and increase rainfall. Plus if we can get some New-Deal-era projects going again, like earthworks through the Sonoran Desert and reforesting that area,...
[19:03:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Move to Canada - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:06] <exec> 08└─LOL they'll be growing them there soon enough. Well in a couple centuries. http://www.fs.fed.us [fs.fed.us]
[19:03:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nothing - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:13] <exec> 08└─Seek professional help. Fast.
[19:03:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Why it's hard to take the warmists seriously - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 465 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:19] <exec> 08└─> This is the kind of article that discredits climate research. PANIC. OMG, the world is ENDING! By that logic, the astronomical notion of the phases of the Moon is discredited by tripe such as: Are you ready for a cosmic shift of epic proportions? You’d better be, because such a shift is approac...
[19:03:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:Huge sack of crap - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:23] <exec> 08└─Fuel lines do not freeze the quickly even at absolute zero: I looked it up.
[19:03:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02Re:Huge sack of crap - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:26] <exec> 08└─Umm... why do we build greenhouses again?
[19:03:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Funny Sad - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:53] <exec> 08└─crazy government incentives != government Excellent comprehension.
[19:04:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Spook brat [775] (Score:2) 02Re:In defense of middle managers - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:04:09] <exec> 08└─you have put your finger on the nub of the problem: large korporations... they are only necessary for destroying competition, NOT for the actual making and distributing of widgets ( the supposed goal)...
[19:04:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why it won't happen ever - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 513 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:04:19] <exec> 08└─because I can think of numerous times where people have just given stuff away without any expectation of anything in return You assume what they are getting is monetary in value back. Sometimes they are buying themselves something. Sometimes they want to get rid of something but do not want to just...
[19:04:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''insurance vs health care'' - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 531 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:04:28] <exec> 08└─Yup. (You got there before I did.) Taiwan is a particularly good example of a place that has a handle on this. They have a single-payer system and their costs are 6 percent of GDP (2010 numbers; they may have improved since then). USA's costs (a mostly privatized system) are 17 percent of GDP (2015...
[19:04:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mission Accomplished - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 583 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:04:48] <exec> 08└─Actually, unlike yourself, I've spent hours looking at the minutiae of what's been uncovered and all I've found is typical human crap. No murders, no criminality, just stuff that looks bad from afar but up close and in context is just the normal result of an imperfect human with a lot of governing r...
[19:04:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03angst_ridden_hipster [5616] (Score:1) 02Re:Mission Accomplished - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:04:50] <exec> 08└─Uh, yes. As a matter of fact, I don't believe she would.
[19:05:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03boxfetish [4831] (Score:1) 02Re:October surprise for Donald J. Trump? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:06] <exec> 08└─I think she's probably unconsciously racist the way most people are, and she's ambitious enough that she stirred the Obama birther pot when she thought it would help her win a primary, but I don't think she actually hates people because of their skin color.
[19:05:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:October surprise for Donald J. Trump? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:08] <exec> 08└─Twenty years later, she made a statement about that remark. https://www.washingtonpost.com [washingtonpost.com]
[19:05:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03angst_ridden_hips 2a9a ter [5616] (Score:1) 02Re:Why a surprise in October? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:15] <exec> 08└─Remember that guy Hillary had killed for the emails released around the DNC? No, I remember a lot of speculation without a scintilla of any real evidence. Same as most of the things you mention. We get it. You hate Hillary. Some people do.
[19:05:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03boxfetish [4831] (Score:1) 02Re:Why a surprise in October? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:17] <exec> 08└─Or maybe he is working up an obvious fake that can be debunked in a matter of a few days or weeks to make her appear as more of a victim/sympathetic figure and further add to the tagline "Hillary has been targeted for decades but nobody has ever found anything that sticks"
[19:05:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why a surprise in October? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 430 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:19] <exec> 08└─No. Assange has a major hard-on for clinton. Its been obvious for quite a while. He's got no particular reason to like her, and lots of reasons to hate her since she's probably involved, at a minium as a figurehead as secretary of state, wrt to his effective imprisonment for however many years he's...
[19:06:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimtheowl [5929] (Score:2) 02Re:*crickets* - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:06:39] <exec> 08└─I don't go that far with Windows 7 and FreeBSD. The BSD boot loader, although simplistic, does the job. I do disconnect the other OS drives when installing Windows though, and turn off automatic updates ASAP.
[19:06:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:re Disable Updates - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 1094 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:06:54] <exec> 08└─Let me know when you find a cure for PowerPoint addiction. And a therapy that actually works to help people overcome FUD, especially that nebulous kind that portrays open source and libre software as unreliable, unpolished, unmaintained, not standardized, and stuck in a small network. Many times I'v...
[19:08:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:"invest" - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:53] <exec> 08└─So Twitch could just enforce their ToS? Doesn't sound like much of a need for investment.
[19:08:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:"invest" - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:56] <exec> 08└─I mean, whats the whole ecosystem of girl farm games worth, like a million bucks?
[19:08:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:"invest" - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:58] <exec> 08└─Only if women are part of your market. If they aren't, then it doesn't. My view is that the best of both worlds is the SFW sites for the people who want their bubble world (with an aggressive terms of service to weed out the problems) and the NSFW sites for the people who want that bubble world (wit...
[19:12:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:Three "icks" and he's out... - 06Sex Robot Café Aims to Offer Londoners Fellatio With Their Morning Coffee - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:03] <exec> 08└─Bleach kills lactobacilli, and can cause more problems.
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[20:02:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Been Saying It For Years - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 447 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:02:03] <exec> 08└─He's right on the money. Good security makes the easy path the secure path, aligning the goals of getting the job done with being secure. Bad security makes the secure path the hard path, putting the goal of getting the job done at odds with being secure thus encouraging users to circumvent securit...
[20:02:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:2) 02Blame the Victim - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 673 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:02:04] <exec> 08└─The final statement speaks volumes about internet security. Blaming the victim applies equally as well as it does everywhere else: you live in an insecure world, and although we'd like it to be more secure, you should behave according to the actual security you have. It's fair to tell users to stop...
[20:02:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:Blame the Victim - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:06] <exec> 08└─As far as I can tell, anti-viruses are more trouble than they are worth. People turn off their critical thinking skills if they think the anti-virus is there to catch them.
[20:02:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:02:09] <exec> 08└─counterintuitive things
[20:02:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02USB why? - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 1180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:02:11] <exec> 08└─I've got a bunch of computers, which I expect my employees to use in certain ways, to do certain things. WTF do I even have USB ports enabled? Even if a person has non-malicious intentions, he just wants to listen to some music on his USB stick, WTF am I paying him to do so? OK - so maybe I gave in...
[20:02:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score:2) 02Re:USB why? - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:13] <exec> 08└─When you disconnect the front-panel USB ports, people will look round the back for a USB port to use. (You know, the ones directly soldered to the motherboard.) If you get a system with no spare USB ports, then some smart person will start unplugging keyboards etc to plug their peripheral in. It's p...
[20:02:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Well, this sounds great! - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 1029 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:02:15] <exec> 08└─I'll take 3 kg of it. Wait, what actually is being proposed? Design better?         Ok... I guess, sure new is always better,         everyone knows that(especially if it hoses up a working system/process).         And better new is even more better. How?         Take users into more...
[20:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Images - 06Rosetta Spacecraft Sends its Final Images of 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:02:25] <exec> 08└─On the stream of the landing, they showed a nice looking widescreen pic of gravel, but it never showed up on the releases, http://www.esa.int(class)/image [esa.int] .
[20:02:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03shipofgold [4696] (Score:1) 02Re:Waaaaanker - 06Mirai IoT Botnet Source Code Released - 731 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:44] <exec> 08└─The people who buy the crap probably don't care if it is part of a botnet or not. They only care if the thing does what they think it should do and if it doesn't degrade their bandwidth too much. If the device steals 1Mb/s of bandwidth from a 10Mb/s connection most people wouldn't even notice. 1 mil...
[20:03:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nothing - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:03:28] <exec> 08└─...chiefly, the hoaxed moon landings.
[20:03:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Champagne - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:03:43] <exec> 08└─Champagne can't be made anymore. Legaly champagne have to be made in the champagne region, but that region is now to hot to make proper champagne.
[20:04:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Before Keynes... - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:04:05] <exec> 08└─And yes, the basic idea is that automation destroys purchasing power, which reduces demand while automation also increases supply. Both have the result of decreasing price, and since the rate of installation of new production during the 1920s was unprecedented, so was the drop in prices.
[20:04:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Undefined Terms - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:04:12] <exec> 08└─"crazy government incentives" : a term so completely undefined as to mean whatever justincase needs in order to rationalize his ignorance.
[20:04:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why it won't happen ever - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:04:35] <exec> 08└─> You can't use the simplification of a simple model to say the model is wrong. You can't use a simplified model to prove something not captured in the model. > Umm... which basically proves my point? Isn't that the direct conclusion of what I said? Nope. Here's the details - redistribution is enorm...
[20:05:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:moved to video, not canceled - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:05:01] <exec> 08└─Didn't Assange try to tie the death of someone to leaked info from the DNC because he wanted people to believe they were related? Assange is a "pay attention to ME" person and has lost credibility.
[20:05:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:October surprise for Donald J. Trump? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:05:15] <exec> 08└─His people were justifying it by saying that it proves he is the right choice for tax reform [nbcnews.com], because he is a master of loopholes.
[20:05:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02Re:October surprise for Donald J. Trump? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 27 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:05:16] <exec> 08└─What's the "surprise" here?
[20:05:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:October surprise for Donald J. Trump? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 459 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:05:29] <exec> 08└─Hillary Clinton's "superpredators" comment wasn't specifically stated to be talking about black people, so yes, I consider it unconscious or closeted racism where she was playing into a racist stereotype without actually indicating that was what she was doing. That is exactly the kind of statement I...
[20:05:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A Nice Analysis of the Tax Issue - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:05:33] <exec> 08└─A 22 minute video? Fuck that you dumbass gamergater. Nobody sane has time it sit through all that shit.
[20:05:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:October surprise for Donald J. Trump? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 2266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:05:35] <exec> 08└─There are 3 places that tax return could have come from. 1) The IRS. They have stated DT can release it if he wants. 2) His accountant. Who would lose in court and have their CPA yanked so fast it would travel through time. 3) Donald Trump. https://www.amazon.com
[20:05:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Why a surprise in October? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 749 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:05:41] <exec> 08└─Well, OK, but what about "how to design something politically effective that can't be debunked in four weeks" I think that's a valid non-partisan-ish question. I suppose someone could use something similar against Trump too, unless its a very Hillary specific attack. Perhaps anything that can be obf...
[20:06:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03PocketSizeSUn [5340] (Score:2) 02Re:The criticism against GitHub is nonsensical. - 06Why Kernel Development Still Uses Email - 995 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:06:09] <exec> 08└─If your patch fixed a real bug that exists in mainline then either:   - Your e-mail got lost in the noise.       - Repost or ping the maintainer. Send them an e-mail directly as well. BTDT it's not alway easy because the lists can be quite a firehose.   - Your documentation of the bug / reprodu...
[20:06:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bernstein 2.0 - 06EFF Asks Court to Block U.S. From Prosecuting Security Researcher - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:06:25] <exec> 08└─Of course information doesn't want to be free... it's not alive, it doesn't want anything. But humans, being naturally curious, want information to be free. Securing networks and IT environments in general, and the discussion of it, is the focus and I concur that there written discussion should not...
[20:07:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:*crickets* - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:03] <exec> 08└─Maybe they shouldn't have fired their QA people...
[20:07:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score:2) 02Re:*crickets* - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:13] <exec> 08└─You have crickets to do it for you?
[20:09:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I think they're misguided - 06Twitch: Gaming Needs to ‘Invest’ to Tackle Sexism  - 687 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:32] <exec> 08└─You're welcome. Honestly, the most practical approach may be something like an ignore list. Is someone being an obnoxious little brat? Hit the button, you never hear their whiny little voice again. You can extend the principle to MMORPGs, making the obnoxious individuals largely irrelevant for LFG c...
[20:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:context... - 06Want to Appear Attractive? Hang Around with an Ugly Friend. - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:49] <exec> 08└─The Macc Lads had a song, "I've never been to bed with an ugly woman but I've woken up with quite a few." They also had a much worse one speculating on the origins of and invention of alcohol ("Thank God for ugly women....").
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[21:01:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Blame the Victim - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:01:50] <exec> 08└─People had lots of unprotected sex when they thought penicillin could cure anything. AIDS ruined the illusion. Anti-virus was very effective in the old days when floppy dicks were the infection vector. Ubiquitous internet connectivity ruined the illusion.
[21:01:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Blame the Victim - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 662 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:01:52] <exec> 08└─Yes. Blame the victim! If you take what the article says . . . * use simple passwords * click links in untrusted email * insert every USB stick you can find (into your computer of course) But don't try to change the user he says. Let's compare to: * lock your house at night, when you leave, and perh...
[21:01:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Blame the Victim - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:01:54] <exec> 08└─On a computer, it's the IT guy's fault. * use simple passwords
[21:01:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 662 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:01:57] <exec> 08└─I don't think they're proposing a world where you find random underwear in a parking lot and can safely put it on... more, a world where you plug in a USB stick and default configurations don't allow it to automatically infect your computer. Lots of "security" seems based in the world of Zork. Move...
[21:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:01:59] <exec> 08└─Pretty much, if you insert a USB disk into a computer, you shouldn't have things executing from it unless you set them up to execute. And documents should never have executables embedded.
[21:02:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 638 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:01] <exec> 08└─I agree with that. But I disagree with the article's point about not changing the user. The world is not a safe place. And nothing will magically make it so. A good lock on your home's front door is better than a poor lock. Just as an OS that doesn't autoexec executables, is better than an OS that d...
[21:02:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 807 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:04] <exec> 08└─If you eat food off the ground, you have a chance of getting sick. You might be sick enough to need hospitalization, and even if your medical bills are covered, you'll still miss work. Even if you don't get fired for missing work, missing work will cost you socially when you lose face time with your...
[21:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:06] <exec> 08└─is kinda like picking up random food and clothes discarded in a parking lot and dumping them on your work desk
[21:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:08] <exec> 08└─YOU BETRAYED THE LAW!
[21:02:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:10] <exec> 08└─is kinda like picking up random food and clothes discarded in a parking lot and dumping them on your work desk
[21:02:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:12] <exec> 08└─But eating it is probably not in your job description. (Although the employer might think that since you can eat trash from the sparking pots, that he can lower your wages so you don't have to purchase food.)
[21:02:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:USB why? - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:16] <exec> 08└─kazzie hinted at the answer: You use USB for the keyboard and mouse. Apparently the old PS/2 ports were too complicated (separate incompatible ports for the keyboard and mouse: using the same connector *was* a little weird/awkward). What is worse, is that you do not even need to unplug the keyboard....
[21:02:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:USB why? - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:19] <exec> 08└─This attitude is why working sucks. Unless you're doing something that requires listening, why should the boss even care if the employees listen to music? This sort of psychopathic viewpoint accomplishes nothing of value.
[21:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:USB why? - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:21] <exec> 08└─That attitude is how you get your end users actively working against your security. I have seen it many times. I will probably see it again in the future.
[21:02:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:USB why? - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:23] <exec> 08└─[Why] even have USB ports enabled?
[21:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:Well, this sounds great! - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 652 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:26] <exec> 08└─Modern computer systems are so insecure, it is hard to know where to start. Ideally, it should be safe to open random e-mail attachments: as long as you do not take deliberate steps to make them executable. However, few file formats properly separate software from data. I think image and plain-text...
[21:02:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Well, this sounds great! - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:28] <exec> 08└─Thank you, I was typing up something along the same lines and gave up, you did a nice job of it. There is no "secure" OS, the user is always a vector for infection and it IS a security vs. usability concern. Can't give root to everyone, can't guarantee that every new file is safe. All that said, I a...
[21:02:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02-1 Disagree - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:02:30] <exec> 08└─It's not because an eminence grise of security says something that he is always right. In this case, he is wrong, the user most certainly needs fixing. The problem isn't the users: it's that we've designed our computer systems' security so badly that we demand the user do all of these counterintuit...
[21:02:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Warning: Possible Wolf! - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 550 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:02:33] <exec> 08└─(Re:) security warnings. Despite researchers' good intentions, these warnings just inure people to them. I've read dozens of studies about how to get people to pay attention to security warnings. We can tweak their wording, highlight them in red, and jiggle them on the screen, but nothing works beca...
[21:02:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02don't entirely agree with article - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 1215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:02:35] <exec> 08└─i don't entirely agree here. security is the responsibility of the whole system, and all of its parts must operate with it in mind, and users are a part of that system. the computer equipment and software are only another portion of the system. the expectations placed on users varies with role and c...
[21:02:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02There's a lot of truth to this. - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 792 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:02:37] <exec> 08└─Getting a virus simply by opening an email was an urban legend, a technically impossible but scary sounding thing to frighten normies with, as late as the 90s. As best I can remember Microsoft made that myth real with the first release of Outlook, but I could be forgetting something that was less wi...
[21:03:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:Waaaaanker - 06Mirai IoT Botnet Source Code Released - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:03:05] <exec> 08└─The flaw has been know for ages. Good luck getting anyone to fix their shit though. Even when the manufacturer issues a patch most people won't apply it. Heck, most probably don't even know it exists.
[21:03:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Well that explains it - 06Mirai IoT Botnet Source Code Released - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:03:06] <exec> 08└─That would explain the constant rejections my firewall has been logging on port 23 this year. And here I thought everyone was just going oldschool. I'm currently seeing about 1 per minute or so. Will be interesting to see if that spikes up in the near future.   I swear giving people the internet is...
[21:04:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Huge sack of crap - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:04:01] <exec> 08└─I think if there are parts of our atmosphere hitting absolute zero we probably have bigger problems than how long it takes a helicopter to fall.
[21:04:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score:1) 02Re:Huge sack of crap - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:04:02] <exec> 08└─the majority of the human population spontaneously incinerating in some hollywood alarmist rendition of global warming gone wrong as atmosphere ignites and shit even while helicopters are freezing and falling out of the sky is what we need to balance the scales. Definitely preferable to *no beer*!
[21:04:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Keynes - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:04:24] <exec> 08└─Dust in the wind, let it blow past instead of adding the tiniest bit of traction to it. If the terms make you confused then that is way better than the annoyance / anger those types want to get out of you!
[21:04:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Keynes - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:04:26] <exec> 08└─Yes, coin a term to describe a style of behavior and you're a horrible person. What a fucking moron.
[21:04:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score:2) 02Re:Before Keynes... - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:04:33] <exec> 08└─(coats in the 1860's were in the same price range as cars today in relative terms Yes, but have you seen those coats? They were the equivalent of 1970's muscle cars in posing power! And Karl Marx believed you had to own something to control it - I think you will find stolen cars respond perfectly to...
[21:04:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Before Keynes... - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 858 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:04:35] <exec> 08└─The problem is that the benefits of automation and cheap overseas labor are not trickling down to the middle class and consumers. It's log-jammed at the top. It's why our economy is stagnant. I believe it will take experiments to fix, but experiments are not a popular political stance. The opponent...
[21:04:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Funny Sad - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:04:51] <exec> 08└─not overly competent executive ... hires ... gives them vaguely defined titles like ... "Organizational Synergy Facilitator", with no clear official job duties...
[21:05:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Excuse me???? - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:05:02] <exec> 08└─Not really, it's more cost effective to create pointless Bullshit jobs than it is to pay people to work few hours. If we started paying people on the basis of not needing their services it would destroy the argument that the ultra wealthy deserve to have massive amounts of money on the basis of earn...
[21:05:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03bucc5062 [699] (Score:2) 02Re:Why it won't happen ever - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 1236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:05:14] <exec> 08└─First off, how did A get the $100? Why does b not have any dollars? The simple story has not context right from the start. We could have C, with $200 decide to give B $50, just because. The players have no starting point. Hell, B could just kill A for the $100 which I would agree, is not utopia, but...
[21:08:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:temporary lapse of attention - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:19] <exec> 08└─>The "big data" version simply involves "computer says no". You'd be amazed how final that computer "no" can be. Sure, there are still opportunities not guarded by a computer, but they are becoming less and less common.
[21:08:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:This site is the wrong color... - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:49] <exec> 08└─I'll speak to the numbers if it's all the same to you. Obviously crap articles get nearly as many comments as the ones on highly controversial topics.
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[22:01:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02pay the workers less - 06Adaptation to Food Deprivation as a Clue for Treating Metabolic Diseases - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:01:44] <exec> 08└─Medical science has discovered how to make the peons work without eating. Now we don't have to pay them to buy food. Truly this is a great advancement for capitalism.
[22:01:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03BananaPhone [2488] (Score:2) 02Or cut back on Sugur - 06Adaptation to Food Deprivation as a Clue for Treating Metabolic Diseases - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:01:45] <exec> 08└─If most of today's "Metabolic Diseases" are caused by sugar why not limit the sugar intake instead of starving?
[22:01:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Blame the Victim - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:00] <exec> 08└─Anti-virus was very effective in the old days when floppy dicks were the infection vector. Ubiquitous internet connectivity ruined the illusion.
[22:02:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Blame the Victim - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:03] <exec> 08└─Which ones are taught to you in school and by your parents? No, I'll wait.
[22:02:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:02:09] <exec> 08└─The world is not a safe place.
[22:02:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:11] <exec> 08└─I don't think they're proposing a world where you find random underwear in a parking lot and can safely put it on... more, a world where you plug in a USB stick and default configurations don't allow it to automatically infect your computer.
[22:02:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03PocketSizeSUn [5340] (Score:2) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 1636 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:18] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but that USB key may not be the USB key you *think* it is, regardless of where it came from a bad actor could have replaced your known good key with a bad one. So by *assuming* that a malware infested device will be inserted by a foolish user also protects a reasonable user from a bad actor. T...
[22:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 1266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:21] <exec> 08└─Your missing the main point: The vast majority of people don't understand computer security because they arent taught computer security. Growing up people learn about real word security, don't talk to strangers, cleanliness, lock your doors, etc. They have a connection established early on that says...
[22:02:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:USB why? - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:28] <exec> 08└─It keeps your shitstain employees from spending an hour creating a playlist on company time. Also, music is a distraction. Yes, even to you. When you can end up lost and not turn the car radio down, I might buy that line of bullshit; not until.
[22:02:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:USB why? - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 627 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:30] <exec> 08└─If your employees are really that unproductive then fire them. If this is a recurring problem then perhaps look in a different direction for the cause.... If we ever make it to the post scarcity economy I thin people like you will be the first to achieve so-called enlightenment. Once your brain gets...
[22:02:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:USB why? - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:32] <exec> 08└─You're one of the shitstain employees. Do yourself a favor and just resign now. If you insist on staying, know that if the building ever catches fire, you will be held personally responsible. Why do you want to work here anyway.
[22:02:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:USB why? - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:35] <exec> 08└─It's easier to just restrict them with software. That way you can allow specific devices and you don't fuck your leases gluing plugs into the USB ports of thousands of PCs. I have several clients that do this. Mice, keyboard, specific equipment, and company owned encrypted thumb drives are all that'...
[22:02:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Well, this sounds great! - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 434 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:39] <exec> 08└─Start with open standards, encouraging diverse OS environments. I'm not claiming Linux was inherently saver than Windows. (I don't think there is any autostart for USB sticks in any major distribution, but I might be wrong. Maybe systemd embeds such a feature somehow, or Gnome 3 does, or whatever no...
[22:02:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Re:-1 Disagree - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:43] <exec> 08└─No, security is just counterintuitive to how people normally operate. Get over it.
[22:02:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:-1 Disagree - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:46] <exec> 08└─Why can't users choose easy-to-remember passwords? Why can't they click on links in emails with wild abandon? Why can't they plug a USB stick into a computer without facing a myriad of viruses? Why are we trying to fix the user instead of solving the underlying security problem?
[22:02:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Re:There's a lot of truth to this. - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:51] <exec> 08└─Certainly there's no way you can get a virus using a sane email client like, oh, pine. Nope, not without being aware of the attachment, deliberately downloading it, deliberately executing it.
[22:02:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:There's a lot of truth to this. - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 474 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:53] <exec> 08└─"Yep. The internet sure was better when everything was plain text, and lynx was the state of the art as a browser. That's the only sane way to use the internet, and all these new fangled people with their formatting and their images and videos are just completely unreasonable in thinking that's some...
[22:02:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03andersjm [3931] (Score:1) 02Re:There's a lot of truth to this. - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:55] <exec> 08└─Certainly there's no way you can get a virus using a sane email client like, oh, pine.
[22:02:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:There's a lot of truth to this. - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:57] <exec> 08└─Somebody should rewrite pine in Ada. Adapine will be perfectly secure because nobody will ever use it.
[22:02:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:There's a lot of truth to this. - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:59] <exec> 08└─Certainly there's no way you can get a virus using a sane email client like, oh, pine. Nope, not without being aware of the attachment, deliberately downloading it, deliberately executing it.
[22:03:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02No - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:03:02] <exec> 08└─**hefts his LART and grins**
[22:03:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:No - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:03:04] <exec> 08└─Micro aggression alert. Stupid people have every right to use the internet to find low-paying jobs and connect with idiot friends and family members. Your elitist attitude has no place in modern society. Prepare to be exterminated in the name of social justice, you backward-thinking anachronism!
[22:03:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:No - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:03:06] <exec> 08└─Offtopic: your sig is a bit homoerotic, I would expect it in a some stand-up comedy routine but as a sig it is really counterproductive and gives people all sorts of presumptions about TMB. Ya ya I'm sure you could care less what other people think, just FYI.
[22:03:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:03:08] <exec> 08└─It's only homoerotic when you assume the reader is male. No, the offensive part is the assumption of only three candidates. Now get under my desk and Jill me off, intern.
[22:03:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:There Is None - 06Rosetta Spacecraft Sends its Final Images of 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:03:19] <exec> 08└─This is a hoax, brought to you by the clowns of NASA et al
[22:03:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:Light Pollution - 06Reykjavik Turns Off Lights for Clearer View of Aurora - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:03:54] <exec> 08└─I was amazed how many stars I could see when I was younger and moved from a big suburb in Florida to rural Wisconsin. On a clear, cold night it was stunning. I live outside a big city now and looking up at night is just... sad.
[22:04:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Move to Canada - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 1082 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:04:18] <exec> 08└─I'm just glad that they've finally tried to bring some reason to the grading system. Most people never realized that the old grading framework was developed back in the day that people were looking for a relatively flavorless sugar replacement, so "Grade A Fancy" was the best thing if you didn't hav...
[22:04:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Move to Canada - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 732 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:04:19] <exec> 08└─My theory is the old grading system evolved in the bad old days where clear at least meant it didn't have dirt in it. Now a days with advanced analysis equipment I think you can pretty much assume its not just tea or food coloring or carmelized cane sugar, so dark more flavorful doesn't matter. I di...
[22:04:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nothing - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:04:29] <exec> 08└─tell your globalist master scum that rebranding "global warming" as "climate change" is not going to work
[22:04:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Nothing - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 945 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:04:33] <exec> 08└─Yes, but when there are no more: French fries, Reese's pieces, mocha coffee, pancakes with Canadian Maple Syrup AND peanut butter, potatoes lyonnaise/au gratin, sandwiches with mayo in it, etc. We're coming to kill you :) That's the price of your belief. When all of your brothers and sisters are loo...
[22:04:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Nothing - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:04:35] <exec> 08└─Yes, but when there are no more: French fries, Reese's pieces, mocha coffee, pancakes with Canadian Maple Syrup AND peanut butter, potatoes lyonnaise/au gratin, sandwiches with mayo in it, etc. We're coming to kill you :)
[22:04:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Why it's hard to take the warmists seriously - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 803 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:04:40] <exec> 08└─Sure, it is. The "it's not evenly distributed" argument is stupid. The only way you can get long term build up of sea level over global sea level rise is via persistent weather and ocean currents. Those are very limited as to how much rise they can induce. And climate change when it changes these pa...
[22:04:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Huge sack of crap - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:04:51] <exec> 08└─The truth is, most plants are going to prefer it if it is warmer and CO2 levels are higher. It's called the greenhouse effect. Umm... why do we build greenhouses again?
[22:05:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Keynes - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:05:15] <exec> 08└─And there are still lots of economists who have modified versions of his theories that have not been falsified yet - they could be wrong, but they could be right too. Meanwhile, the opponents of Keynes' theories (e.g. the Austrians) have mistakes of their own to answer for as well
[22:05:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03SecurityGuy [1453] (Score:2) 02Re:Excuse me???? - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 759 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:05:47] <exec> 08└─That might be true if there were someone in the world who was a pure profit seeker. Modern organizations have layers, like an ogre. Er, onion. So yeah, if you were running a one-man shop, you wouldn't hire someone unless they netted you a profit. If there are 11 people between you and the CEO, you a...
[22:06:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Mission Accomplished - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:06:18] <exec> 08└─Perhaps, but used dresses covered in jizz are not so easily silenced :)
[22:06:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Mission Accomplished - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 1510 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:06:21] <exec> 08└─Hardly. Just like the other poster said, there is nothing on Clinton. I dislike her completely, but for corruption and political reasons. That corruption is out in the open and legalized via "speaking fees" and "campaign contributions", and is functionally no different than all of the other bipartis...
[22:06:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:October surprise for Donald J. Trump? - 06"October Surprise" Thwarted? Wikileaks Cancels Tuesday Announcement Due to Security Concerns - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:06:32] <exec> 08└─What's more likely under Occam's Razor
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[23:01:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03julian [6003] (Score:2) 02Re:Or cut back on Sugur - 06Adaptation to Food Deprivation as a Clue for Treating Metabolic Diseases - 818 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:51] <exec> 08└─Sugar, sedentary lifestyle, food additives, hormones, antibiotics, processed foods, vitamin deficiencies, low dietary fiber, dehydration, sleep deprivation, stress, over-use of alcohol, pollution, and probably lots of other things I can't think of ATM. Modern Western culture is an all out assault on...
[23:01:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Or cut back on Sugur - 06Adaptation to Food Deprivation as a Clue for Treating Metabolic Diseases - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:53] <exec> 08└─Yeah I know what you mean. I always read the Nutrition Facts label, and I don't buy unless I see double-digit amounts of fat and sugar. Anything less and I'll be hungry again in an hour.
[23:01:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Or cut back on Sugur - 06Adaptation to Food Deprivation as a Clue for Treating Metabolic Diseases - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:55] <exec> 08└─And yet despite all this our life expectancy is much higher than it used to be. Go figure.
[23:01:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Or cut back on Sugur - 06Adaptation to Food Deprivation as a Clue for Treating Metabolic Diseases - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:57] <exec> 08└─https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2010-12-09/life-expectancy-in-the-u-s-drops-for-first-time-since-1993-report-says [bloomberg.com] http://time.com [time.com] https://www.yahoo.com
[23:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03FunkyLich [4689] (Score:1) 02Re:Or cut back on Sugur - 06Adaptation to Food Deprivation as a Clue for Treating Metabolic Diseases - 410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:59] <exec> 08└─For the increase in life expectancy, you should be grateful not for the shit people eat today compared to earlier times, but mainly to Ignaz Semmelweis for basically discovering hygiene is important to health, and to Alexander Fleming for basically discovering penicillin. The combined discoveries of...
[23:02:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Or cut back on Sugur - 06Adaptation to Food Deprivation as a Clue for Treating Metabolic Diseases - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:01] <exec> 08└─Bah. Limiting sugar. What's wrong with sugar? Is this more politically correct nonsense? And is "metabolic disease" what we're saying fattys have now? Starving, bah, more political correctness. Just EAT LESS FATSO!
[23:02:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02It's only BROWN SUGAR for me! - 06Adaptation to Food Deprivation as a Clue for Treating Metabolic Diseases - 1217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:02:04] <exec> 08└─I learned to love brown sugar when Seabass was the instructor and Bubba the teacher, inside a tiny bathroom stall just short of Aspen. I didn't have much of a choice, really. For some reason, they looped this song in a stereo near the base of the toilet during each lesson: My boyfriend's back and yo...
[23:02:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Blame the Victim - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:21] <exec> 08└─> only if it isn't used as an excuse to not bother improving the security situation. Yah think? That's his entire point. That the engineering quality needs to improve and stop pushing the responsibility off to the non-experts.
[23:02:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Cultural issues - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:28] <exec> 08└─Pretty much, if you insert a USB disk into a computer, you shouldn't have things executing from it unless you set them up to execute.
[23:02:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:USB why? - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:44] <exec> 08└─Awww, po' baby got twiggard!
[23:02:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02Re:USB why? - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 780 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:47] <exec> 08└─when "users" (aka "employees") are forced to work in 'open plan' torture centres, with no privacy, lots of noise and movement (just from people going to the loo - how dare they!), headphones can be a god-send. Little bit of music while you get the seventh revision done and checked (while not disturb...
[23:03:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Re:There's a lot of truth to this. - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:01] <exec> 08└─You speak as if you think formatting and images and videos are a problem that's holding back the internet from reaching its full potential, and we should really go back to the "good old days" when the internet was all text. Can YOU really believe that?
[23:03:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:There's a lot of truth to this. - 06Security Design: Stop Trying to Fix the User - 856 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:05] <exec> 08└─Getting a virus simply by opening an email was an urban legend You have not been doing this very long have you? "I LOVE YOU" https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] deliberately executing it. That bad boy took out the whole company I worked at when it came out. 20k in employees. Not a...
[23:03:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Waaaaanker - 06Mirai IoT Botnet Source Code Released - 1036 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:35] <exec> 08└─Which is why it is ludicrous to allow Internet access to almost anything inside your home. If it's sophisticated enough to use a NTP server, then run a NTP server on your firewall instead and not let it have access to outside networks. About all we can do is proceed to a white-listed world where a p...
[23:04:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why it's hard to take the warmists seriously - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:04:33] <exec> 08└─I bet you actually feel like you proved something don't you? You did, but not what you think. You proved how hard you are willing to work to remain ignorant. You are like the little child with his fingers in his ears yelling "I can't hear you!"
[23:04:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Champagne - 06Seven Popular Foods that Might Disappear Because of Climate Change - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:47] <exec> 08└─But what will the republican elite drink now? Parched by their own petard!
[23:05:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Keynes - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:10] <exec> 08└─whole host of ancillary industries (dog-washers, all-night pizza deliverymen) that only exist because everyone else is spending so much of their time working in all the other ones. These are what I propose to call "bullshit jobs."
[23:05:34] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03dingus [5224] 02Re:Excuse me???? - 06Why Capitalism Creates Pointless Jobs - 1628 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:34] <exec> 08└─It's a mistake to think that Capitalism and the State can ever remain distinct. Anyway, I think what the author was trying to say was something like the tree scenario. Suppose you start with a flat bed of moss. Each little patch of moss gets the same amount of sunlight, and pretty much gets it for f...
[23:08:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:*crickets* - 06Microsoft Windows 10 Update Problems - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:13] <exec> 08└─That is how they make their cricket noise, patting themselves on their backs, though with their legs. I have no slaves, since slavery is abhorrent to any human who is sufficiently human. But the worst kind of slavery is that where the slaves are such by their own volition, as with Microsoft users. O...
[23:08:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Entropy [4228] (Score:2) 02Re:Racist? - 06Math is Racist: How Data is Driving Inequality - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:56] <exec> 08└─That's racist. When anything is wrong with black people--it's racist! Haven't you been reading the news. The fault is never their own. If something is wrong with any other race(like being bad at math) they just need to work on it.
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