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[00:17:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2, Disagree) 02HOWTO Steal Electricity - 06Dutch Brothers in Court for Bitcoin Mining With Stolen Power - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:18:00] <exec> 08└─Residential electric meters measure the product of voltage and current. If you wire in a large inductor or capacitor, you will phase-shift the AC, thereby drawing lots of current when the voltage is low. You're still really using lots of power but the meter won't measure it; a fancier meter would be...
[00:18:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Re:HOWTO Steal Electricity - 06Dutch Brothers in Court for Bitcoin Mining With Stolen Power - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:18:01] <exec> 08└─If only you were still a teenager, you could write about your discovery of these obvious facts in a news submission.
[00:18:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:HOWTO Steal Electricity - 06Dutch Brothers in Court for Bitcoin Mining With Stolen Power - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:18:03] <exec> 08└─Tron boxing is bunk. http://everything2.com [everything2.com] http://www.bombshock.com [bombshock.com]
[00:18:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:HOWTO Steal Electricity - 06Dutch Brothers in Court for Bitcoin Mining With Stolen Power - 2742 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:18:05] <exec> 08└─The problem with this is while the apparent power looks high, the work is only done by the real power which is lower. The lagging or leading current is never in phase with the voltage which decreases the available amount of "work" able to be exerted. If you want to steal power the right way, get it...
[00:18:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yeah, not so sure about that - 06Star Trek Fan Films May Not be Dead After All - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:18:20] <exec> 08└─Glad to see some work inspired by The Animated Series. Kukulkan in particular is more of a tragic sympathetic character than the average villainous fake god.
[00:18:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03SrLnclt [1473] 02Re:If you act like a d*** - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 99 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:18:33] <exec> 08└─During the interrogation after his arrest, Picard repeatedly told the cops "There are four lights."
[00:18:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:punish those that break the law - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:18:38] <exec> 08└─Please humor my inner autistic: it wasn't video, the camera was pointed at the sky, but it did record their conspiring on audio.
[00:19:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Military Industrial Complex - 06USS Zumwalt Breaks Down During Sea Trials - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:19:34] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure this first quote is accurate. It's from a machine-generated transcript. [...] the Middle East policy should be made with respect to getting our hands on oil [...]
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[01:17:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Update now, numerous security holes in Tails 2.5! - 06TAILS Linux 2.6 is Out - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:17:47] <exec> 08└─https://tails.boum.org/security/Numerous_security_holes_in_2.5/index.en.html [boum.org]
[01:17:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Political correctness challenge. - 06DNA Hints at Earlier Human Exodus From Africa - 574 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:17:54] <exec> 08└─A species is defined as the largest group capable of interbreeding. So, since races are senseless made-up voodoo with less biological significance then one breed of chicken versus the next, you're left with subspecies. But, some idiot decided that connotes inferiority so you can't use that... And so...
[01:18:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Seriously? - 06Dutch Brothers in Court for Bitcoin Mining With Stolen Power - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:18:05] <exec> 08└─Stealing the power is the bit that makes the least sense. Why not add some signs "J Bloggs industrial sewing and weaving". Record some large sewing or weaving machines, play from speakers on top floor. Then *pay* for the electricity.
[01:18:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Seriously? - 06Dutch Brothers in Court for Bitcoin Mining With Stolen Power - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:18:06] <exec> 08└─Electricity is going to be your biggest ongoing cost in running a mining operation.
[01:18:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:HOWTO Steal Electricity - 06Dutch Brothers in Court for Bitcoin Mining With Stolen Power - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:18:12] <exec> 08└─Your high school teacher sounds like a real asshole. Stealing for years, bragging to his students, lying about it when he got caught, fabricating a story about his wife's injury, manipulating the evidence of tampering.
[01:18:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:HOWTO Steal Electricity - 06Dutch Brothers in Court for Bitcoin Mining With Stolen Power - 1553 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:18:15] <exec> 08└─He was actually *the best* teachers I have ever had. He could control a classroom full of rowdy teenagers, most of whom were from the surrounding ghetto, with ease. His numerous stories, teaching methods, and knowledge made him an exemplary teacher. Yea, he was a bastard, little NYC Italian guy so y...
[01:18:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Engage the Recycler! - 06Star Trek Fan Films May Not be Dead After All - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:18:25] <exec> 08└─I just discovered James Doohan had lost a finger in the second world war! He hid it so well i never did notice. https://www.google.ca [google.ca]
[01:18:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03helel [2949] (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:Is "Star Trek" a trademark? - 06Star Trek Fan Films May Not be Dead After All - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:18:29] <exec> 08└─Defending your trademark doesn't mean you need to stop other people from using it, you just need to make them get permission. They could defend it by just going about with a "Sign this to get legal permission to use Star Trek logo or gtfo." Bam, trademark protected and fans happy that they can do wh...
[01:18:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:"huge money making productions"? - 06Star Trek Fan Films May Not be Dead After All - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:18:36] <exec> 08└─Prematurely? Perhaps you could talk Zemeckis into lending you a time machine to go back and terminate Star Trek prematurely.
[01:18:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:punish those that break the law - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:18:55] <exec> 08└─No, it was audio. The video didn't record anything relevant.
[01:19:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:If you act like a d*** - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 878 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:19:00] <exec> 08└─Unless you're a police officer. Then you're a cowardly piece of shit that will shoot at your shadow, or any black man that looks remotely threatening. Of which, being black apparently seems threatening enough in of itself. Seriously. They're cowards at this point. One of the last incidents in the pa...
[01:19:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:If you act like a d*** - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 772 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:19:11] <exec> 08└─I'm sorry, but I'm with Buzzie on this one. Just look at Clinton. They caught her read handed taking huge amounts of money from private parties for "speeches' and she refuses to disclose the substance of any of those speeches. WTF can she possibly be saying that's worth seven figures? If it's a spee...
[01:19:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Too many laws - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:19:13] <exec> 08└─Absolutely and combine that with the practice of piling on whole lists of crimes that could possibly be applicable to force a plea bargain and I'm not even sure how that represents justice. If you make the list long enough, chances are you'll be able to convince the jury that the defendant is guilty...
[01:19:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:If you act like a d*** - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 491 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:19:19] <exec> 08└─Warning people of checkpoints is constitutionally protected free speech. Motorcyclists regularly use hand signals to warn each other about cops in the area. And AAA was originally started to warn motorists of speed traps. It would be unfortunate if people were killed by a drunk driver trying to avoi...
[01:19:22] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03JNCF [4317] 02Re:If you act like a d*** - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 107 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:19:23] <exec> 08└─[If you act like a d***] around law enforcement, don't be surprised to get your butt slammed to the ground.
[01:19:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:Bad cop! No donuts for you! - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:19:34] <exec> 08└─... I void them as often as I can...
[01:19:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Navy has serious problems... - 06USS Zumwalt Breaks Down During Sea Trials - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:19:44] <exec> 08└─...rum, bum and bacca.
[01:19:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Replying on my so-called PC - 06USS Zumwalt Breaks Down During Sea Trials - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:19:49] <exec> 08└─Nuke, you so called that, man!
[01:20:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Normal stuff for sea trials - 06USS Zumwalt Breaks Down During Sea Trials - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:20:11] <exec> 08└─Was fixed and all good again. It's best to get this during sea trials than after delivery when the ship is in operation!
[01:20:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02all U.S. Audi "models starting this fall" - 06Researchers Testing Cars and Roads that Talk to Each Other - 433 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:20:22] <exec> 08└─After testing in three U.S. cities, "Audi of America is introducing vehicle-to-infrastructure (V2I) communication technology into its 2017 vehicles. [...A] countdown will display in the instrument cluster and the head-up display to indicate the amount of time till the traffic light turns green." htt...
[01:20:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03gumby [3079] (Score:1) 02Umm, but what's the big advantage? - 06Researchers Testing Cars and Roads that Talk to Each Other - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:20:23] <exec> 08└─We already have traffic lights, street signs, turn signals (though admittedly they rarely work on BMWs) etc. Why not just teach the cars to use those? The only advantage I can see is that they will not be in the visible spectrum, so we could get rid of some visual clutter. But at a big cost in infra...
[01:20:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WHO? - 06Brian Krebs' Blog Hit by 665 Gbps DDoS Attack - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:20:46] <exec> 08└─He pisses off script kiddies and Russian cybercriminals, not governments.
[01:21:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Name's the Same - 06Simultaneous Radio Xmit/Receive, on the SAME Frequency - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:21:10] <exec> 08└─http://www.scilogs.com/counterbalanced/academic-nominative-determinism-the-years-best/ [scilogs.com] https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
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[02:17:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Signature? - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:17:51] <exec> 08└─Code for "Microsoft exclusive"? Obviously, they knew ahead of time that alternative OS's wouldn't have that driver. What other "advanced capabilities"? Microsoft telemetry, maybe?
[02:17:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:Signature? - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 815 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:17:53] <exec> 08└─having an ide or sata interface with fakeraid is fine; but I have NEVER seen a controller that didn't ALSO have ahci as a choosable mode. cue the apologists who would say 'but a user might enter bios mode and change that, making the system unbootable!' yeah, you can screw up lots of things in bios....
[02:17:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02entire article is flame bait - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:17:55] <exec> 08└─Linux has always been trouble on new hardware because of drivers being either unavailable or buggy.
[02:17:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:entire article is flame bait - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:17:57] <exec> 08└─Let's get this flame war started. Fuck Linux! can't even do RAID SSD WTF BBQ! LOL Linus is a fag!
[02:18:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Update now, numerous security holes in Tails 2. - 06TAILS Linux 2.6 is Out - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:18:06] <exec> 08└─You provided a service to you fellow human beings, have a bump...
[02:18:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:Political correctness challenge. - 06DNA Hints at Earlier Human Exodus From Africa - 1447 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:18:15] <exec> 08└─The nature article? Can you point out any place where using one of those terms would be accurate? I don't see one. The two different 'waves' of humans they are postulating would not have been different races or subspecies from each other, but very close relatives deriving from the same ancient popul...
[02:18:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Political correctness challenge. - 06DNA Hints at Earlier Human Exodus From Africa - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:18:19] <exec> 08└─These hypothetical two-waves of migration, if they existed at all, would have been very close relatives, almost indistinguishable.
[02:18:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Political correctness challenge. - 06DNA Hints at Earlier Human Exodus From Africa - 933 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:18:21] <exec> 08└─"less biological significance then one breed of chicken versus the next," I think that the difference between races is precisely the same as the difference between breeds of chicken. Or dog, or cat, or whatever. And, for the sake of political incorrectness - there are measurable differences between...
[02:18:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dutch Bros.? - 06Dutch Brothers in Court for Bitcoin Mining With Stolen Power - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:18:32] <exec> 08└─Coffeeshops are where the cannabis is sold. This was a grow house.
[02:18:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:Seriously? - 06Dutch Brothers in Court for Bitcoin Mining With Stolen Power - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:18:37] <exec> 08└─Not clever enough to realise most cannabis hydroponic growers have been caught owning to excess electricity consumption.
[02:19:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If you act like a d*** - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:19:49] <exec> 08└─I read an article that said that you do more good stating the extreme version of the side you are against than for. So, arguably, he has done more good than bad, regardless of his views.
[02:19:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:Bad cop! No donuts for you! - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:19:57] <exec> 08└─The cops in question here will be given a slap on the wrist, or at worst find employment with another department. We need to revoke their credentials like we do with bad doctors or unethical attorneys. What needs to happen is a civil rights investigation from the Federal level needs to happen so the...
[02:20:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Replying on my so-called PC - 06USS Zumwalt Breaks Down During Sea Trials - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:20:13] <exec> 08└─It's not from an "article on SoylentNews". Most of the stuff you see here are just summaries of articles linked in from other sites (there are a few actual articles like NCommander's retro-malware series [soylentnews.org] but those are the exceptions). The 'so-called' is part of a quote from the act...
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[03:17:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2, Redundant) 02Re:Signature? - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:17:57] <exec> 08└─Personally, I've never seen a good reason for RAID on a laptop. RAID doesn't even make much sense on most desktops. To me, it's an important server feature, but completely unessential for the average user. So, in effect, Lenovo implemented a server feature on a laptop, which just happens to break *n...
[03:17:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:Signature? - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:17:59] <exec> 08└─more so - a CONSUMER grade lappie with - RAID - really?? absurd beyond the pale.
[03:18:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Signature? - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 898 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:18:01] <exec> 08└─To be fair, everything coming out of Lenovo since 2008 or so has been a steaming pile of consumer-grade shit, Thinkpads included. Lenovo got big because people heard that Thinkpads were good and wrongly assumed that still held true and that it carried over to the rest of their product line. They rui...
[03:18:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03petecox [3228] (Score:1) 02Re:Signature? - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:18:03] <exec> 08└─Bricking a computer by messing with the BIOS settings shouldn't be an issue if there's a 'reset to factory settings' button.
[03:18:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:entire article is flame bait - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:18:07] <exec> 08└─Yeah! Linux can't even give you a BSOD. I miss those. My Linux hasn't crashed since I started using it 10 years ago. And I'm sick and tired of not having to go through driver or dll hell every time I plug something new in because it just works. Dammit Linux.
[03:18:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03boltronics [580] (Score:2) 02Re:entire article is flame bait - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:18:09] <exec> 08└─For some types of oddball hardware, sure. Bumblebee comes to mind. But storage? I can't remember the last time a GNU/Linux install didn't work with some kind of storage device. Heck, I don't think that's ever been a problem for me in the ~18 years of using it. Why Lenovo didn't just include an optio...
[03:18:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Did Satya Nadella - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:18:12] <exec> 08└─inherit the mileage on Steve Ballmer's frequent flyer account?
[03:18:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Of course! - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:18:14] <exec> 08└─No, no! It's not because of some secret evil corporate deal we have with Microsoft! It's because our hard drives are so fucking awesome and powerful that Linux couldn't possibly handle it!
[03:18:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Update now, numerous security holes in Tails 2. - 06TAILS Linux 2.6 is Out - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:18:24] <exec> 08└─>>405370 >have a bump That's not how this comment system works, /b/tard.
[03:19:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Engage the Recycler! - 06Star Trek Fan Films May Not be Dead After All - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:19:05] <exec> 08└─Next please tell us "today I learned" about hand models [wikipedia.org].
[03:19:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is "Star Trek" a trademark? - 06Star Trek Fan Films May Not be Dead After All - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:19:09] <exec> 08└─They could license the trademark to fan productions that adhered to their guidelines, and sue everyone else who did not. That would qualify as defending the trademark.
[03:19:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If you act like a d*** - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:19:50] <exec> 08└─I see the Clintrolls are out again today. She can suck my cock.
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[04:18:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02no Musky, don't care - 06NASA Scientists Find 'Impossible' Cloud On Titan -- Again - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:18:09] <exec> 08└─Unless you've got a story about how Musky is selling tickets for billionaire tourists to fly to Titan, see this cloud, and tweet about it on Twitter.
[04:18:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:entire article is flame bait - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 1476 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:18:28] <exec> 08└─I recently bought some nvme ssd modules in m.2 format and plugged into a passive pci-e adapter card. now, this isn't scsi or sata - its all new, this nvme stuff. you really can't just call it like scsi and in fact its not /dev/sdaX (etc). no, not even /dev/hda, lol. its /dev/nvme0n1p1 and windows7 w...
[04:18:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:entire article is flame bait - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:18:29] <exec> 08└─But storage? I can't remember the last time a GNU/Linux install didn't work with some kind of storage device. Heck, I don't think that's ever been a problem for me in the ~18 years of using it.
[04:18:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:entire article is flame bait - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 1201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:18:31] <exec> 08└─Oh I know it happens here in penguin land too. I had a Promise IDE RAID card that was rock solid on RHEL/WHEL 3 and 4. Hell, I -built- WBEL4 on it. But sometime around the Fedora 7 period the kernel would see it and shit all over the filesystem if I was dumb enough to mount it rw when testing. For a...
[04:18:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:entire article is flame bait - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:18:33] <exec> 08└─Parent is an example of a post that most SN readers disagree with, but is not a troll post. It's a legitimate POV. OK, don't mod him up, but don't mod down either.
[04:18:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:entire article is flame bait - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:18:35] <exec> 08└─Most SN readers are rabid Linux apologists. YOU SHOULD USE LINUX BECAUSE LINUX IS ALWAYS BEST BECAUSE LINUX
[04:18:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:entire article is flame bait - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:18:37] <exec> 08└─Linux has always been trouble on new hardware because of drivers being either unavailable or buggy.
[04:18:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02To arms! - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:18:42] <exec> 08└─Bring mee pitchfork, arm the wagons!
[04:18:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02wait, what? - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:18:44] <exec> 08└─To support our Yoga products and our industry-leading 360-hinge design in the best way possible we have used a storage controller mode that is unfortunately not supported by Linux I fail to see what one has to do with the other. anyone have any idea? anyone? bueller? anyone??
[04:19:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:Political correctness challenge. - 06DNA Hints at Earlier Human Exodus From Africa - 1084 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:19:03] <exec> 08└─Again, there's simply no evidence for what you say. Can I prove it never happened? Obviously not, the notorious problem of proving a negative. But I would expect to see evidence of it, and I don't. There are several areas where Neanderthal and CroMagnons lived in close proximity for 10s of thousands...
[04:20:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:If you act like a d*** - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 672 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:20:28] <exec> 08└─You're saying he was obstructing a checkpoint because a crazy "what if" scenario could have happened? Madness. Even if that situation did occur, it would be the drunk driver's fault, not the fault of the protester. If we use the logic that you are responsible for someone else's actions, you could ju...
[04:20:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Re:Bad cop! No donuts for you! - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:20:44] <exec> 08└─Ah yes, it is a typo, but what a marvelous typo it is. Voiding them could mean "nullify" them, and if I had added the word "on" after "void", it would have had additional meaning. We should void our bowels on the police far more often.
[04:22:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geotti [1146] (Score:2) 02Re:Echo Cancellation - 06Simultaneous Radio Xmit/Receive, on the SAME Frequency - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:22:11] <exec> 08└─And for those MBAs you could just say it's 12σ, that's 2 times more 9's than with 6σ [wikipedia.org]!
[04:22:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02His name isn't Bharadia - 06Simultaneous Radio Xmit/Receive, on the SAME Frequency - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:22:24] <exec> 08└─His name is Dinesh which literally means Lord of the Day. His family name is Bharadia. It is derived from word Bharat, which is the name of India in Sanskrit.
[04:22:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:ulterior motivation - 06Microsoft to "Solve the Problem of Cancer" Within Ten Years - Scientists are Skeptical - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:22:43] <exec> 08└─But it did work. It was supposed to bring a huge load of money for a very rich but technologically illiterate media moguls and it did. If Microsoft wouldn't have done it someone else would have, and possibly made MS obsolete.
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[05:18:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02Re:Signature? - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:18:08] <exec> 08└─There is a saying "in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king". So: Why the fuck do people keep parroting the old, "Get a lenovo" line anymore?
[05:18:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Re:Signature? - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 468 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:18:09] <exec> 08└─I've never seen a good reason for hardware raid in general, especially proprietary hardware raid. Coupled with the fact that this is on a consumer notebook, no AHCI support due to yet another bonkers UEFI implementation and I'm left wondering what the hell the people at Lenovo must be smoking. Don't...
[05:18:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:Signature? - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 504 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:18:12] <exec> 08└─Since only the CPU on-die temperature sensor can do a forced shutdown, most machines can be smoked out by selectively over-clocking everything except the CPU from the UEFI menu. As for the general population, a schoolyard bricking routine is to disable the USB ports and boot device. You'd be amazed...
[05:18:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:entire article is flame bait - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:18:18] <exec> 08└─you haven't crashed your computer in 10 years? you're doing something wrong. even if it is linux :)
[05:18:20] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] 02Re:entire article is flame bait - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 1476 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:18:20] <exec> 08└─I recently bought some nvme ssd modules in m.2 format and plugged into a passive pci-e adapter card. now, this isn't scsi or sata - its all new, this nvme stuff. you really can't just call it like scsi and in fact its not /dev/sdaX (etc). no, not even /dev/hda, lol. its /dev/nvme0n1p1 and windows7 w...
[05:18:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:entire article is flame bait - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 546 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:18:23] <exec> 08└─> they didn't ADD raid; they spent time/money/engineering on REMOVING ahci! and that's fucking evil. To be fair it is probably just a build flag. So really minimal effort required. And if you think about from a mindset of forgetting that linux exists, it makes sense. Its one less knob for an unsophi...
[05:18:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03boltronics [580] (Score:2) 02Re:entire article is flame bait - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:18:25] <exec> 08└─Yep, that's right. I personally have two M.2 drives in my desktop running Debian. When I first set it up, I had them running using software RAID0 (via mdadm) and LUKS, with LVM2 over the top. No problems since day 1. Lenovo did have a choice though. Nobody put a gun to their head. In the end, they t...
[05:18:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:entire article is flame bait - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:18:32] <exec> 08└─Call me weird, but, I say simply avoid proprietary OS's. I don't think I am alone. Have you not noticed the systemd trolls? The problem with systemd is that it make Linux about as reliable as windows: complete with automatically "fixing" things for you.
[05:18:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:wait, what? - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:18:39] <exec> 08└─Never miss an opportunity to inject some marketing into your PR.
[05:18:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Political correctness challenge. - 06DNA Hints at Earlier Human Exodus From Africa - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:18:59] <exec> 08└─As I said, there's a far more plausible explanation for the results. The same genes inherited from the common ancestor changed in the same way in response to the same environmental stimuli. Parallel evolution.
[05:19:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:HOWTO Steal Electricity - 06Dutch Brothers in Court for Bitcoin Mining With Stolen Power - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:19:21] <exec> 08└─I know I have been reading Slashdot too much over the years. I remember when you posted this there.. 5... 10 years ago? I love the story and I recall it whenever I look at a meter.
[05:20:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:punish those that break the law - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:20:01] <exec> 08└─Again, so it was video. Since we are being pedants here, it's worth noting that video is the medium that was recorded and it covers the audio track, but not the other way around.
[05:20:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:If you act like a d*** - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 971 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:20:07] <exec> 08└─I dunno, I called the cops on the shitbag who was abusing his girlfriend next door back when I lived in Soulard, and I got to watch a (black, if it matters) cop fucking drop said (white, also, if it matters) shitbag on the pavement outside my front door for trying to walk away when he was talking to...
[05:20:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:If you act like a d*** - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:20:30] <exec> 08└─Whilst you have the right to disagree with the SCOTUS, they still technically have a little bit more authority than you on such matters.
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[06:17:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02All those problems will be fixed... - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:17:52] <exec> 08└─...in Windows 10 Signature Edition. And any problems in Windows 10 Signature Edition will be fixed in Windows 10 Disruptor Edition. And any problems in Windows 10 Disruptor Edition will be fixed in Windows 10 Millennium Edition. You're going to love Millennium Edition, I guarantee it.
[06:17:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Redundant) 02Windows is shit and Microsoft is shit - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:17:53] <exec> 08└─sudo mod up +1000 Fucking Insightful
[06:17:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02What? - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:17:55] <exec> 08└─"The Windows 10 upgrade is a choice designed to help people take advantage of the most secure and most productive Windows," said a spokesman.
[06:17:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02typical windows cycle - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 981 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:17:57] <exec> 08└─Windows XP what I assume everyone here considers an amazing thing and a mistake for MS to ditch. Was not very good at first and memory thirsty. It was not until sp2 that it took on a decent well rounded worth using set of features. It was flaky and BSOD prone. I remember the silly nicknames everyone...
[06:17:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02You have backups, right? - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 546 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:18:00] <exec> 08└─You have backups, right? What backups? Tears all around. I don't understand why an OS upgrade should be touching any files on a user's Desktop or Documents or really any User folder. Once again, Microsoft continues to fail to learn from Unix to everyone's detriment. And that's on top of not only all...
[06:18:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:1, Troll) 02I, for one. . . - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 548 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:18:02] <exec> 08└─I condemn Windows Ten. Not for the deception, not for the tricks, not for the spying, not for the false pretenses. I condemn it because it is Windows. The people behind this ought to be forcibly apprehended, thrown roughly to the ground, and crucified. The degree to which the promise of computationa...
[06:18:17] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] 02Re:Signature? - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 815 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:18:17] <exec> 08└─having an ide or sata interface with fakeraid is fine; but I have NEVER seen a controller that didn't ALSO have ahci as a choosable mode. cue the apologists who would say 'but a user might enter bios mode and change that, making the system unbootable!' yeah, you can screw up lots of things in bios....
[06:18:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Signature? - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 1597 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:18:23] <exec> 08└─The "R" of course is short for "redundant." While I've not personally experienced a failed SSD, I've read in online forums that when they fail, they can suddenly become totally unreadable—a more troublesome failure mode than what usually happens to mechanical drives, in which only a portion of the...
[06:18:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03MadTinfoilHatter [4635] (Score:2) 02Re:Signature? - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:18:26] <exec> 08└─I've never seen a good reason for RAID on a laptop.
[06:18:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Signature? - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:18:30] <exec> 08└─ricking a computer by messing with the BIOS settings shouldn't be an issue if there's a 'reset to factory settings' button.
[06:18:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:entire article is flame bait - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:18:39] <exec> 08└─nobody is out to hurt linux
[06:18:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Re:entire article is flame bait - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 843 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:18:42] <exec> 08└─"they didn't ADD raid; they spent time/money/engineering on REMOVING ahci! and that's fucking evil." Yep. "microsoft seems the most guilty here. they are doing all sorts of fucked up shit trying to force win10 on people." In all sorts of little ways. I have a new Acer machine that came with Win10 pr...
[06:18:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Of course! - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:18:53] <exec> 08└─You know, I just dug out a Dell-mini, Inspirion or what ever, which is running Ubuntu 8.04. Now I thought to self, that is kind of dated. Did apt-get magic stuff, no updates. Strange, not even security? Come to find out, Dell used a proprietary interface to the SSD on these puppies, and now you are...
[06:19:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score:2) 02believed? - 06TAILS Linux 2.6 is Out - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:19:06] <exec> 08└─TAILS is believed to be one of the most secure ways currently in use on the internet of protecting your identity, although it is possible to compromise information if it is used used incorrectly.
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[07:17:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:typical windows cycle - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:17:55] <exec> 08└─Personally, the only Windows OS that got close to "from my cold dead fingers" was Windows 2000.
[07:17:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:You have backups, right? - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 682 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:17:58] <exec> 08└─No upgrade should ever touch user data at all. The install procedure should be: 1. Deploy alternative boot and new system filed in C:\foobar. 2. Set bootloader to C:\foobar\bootimage. 3. Reboot. 4. Move everything not in C:\foobar into C:\backup. 5. Deploy system. Any migration of user data should s...
[07:18:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:2) 02Re:Signature? - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:18:22] <exec> 08└─>"Laptops with a single "hard drive" bay are the norm, but having two bays is nothing new (how many this Lenovo has, I don't know)." According to the spec sheet, it has one drive bay. So there is no benefit to having it hard-coded to a single drive raid array compared to having it set to ahci. Which...
[07:18:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:2) 02Re:Signature? - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:18:28] <exec> 08└─Oh, shut up Donald.
[07:18:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03pkrasimirov [3358] (Score:2) 02Re:wait, what? - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:18:53] <exec> 08└─You are not used to corporate bullshit talk, are you?
[07:19:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:2) 02Re:Political correctness challenge. - 06DNA Hints at Earlier Human Exodus From Africa - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:19:15] <exec> 08└─> "I have yet to see a single piece of hard evidence for neanderthal-human offspring." Pay attention to the doormen at nightclubs, and you'll find your evidence.
[07:22:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The largest in history! DNS = 127.0.0.1 at 3am - 06Brian Krebs' Blog Hit by 665 Gbps DDoS Attack - 372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:22:00] <exec> 08└─Looks like he's reset his DNS to local host now. 127.0.0.1 must be "getting a lot of hits". Btw does Krebs have anything to do with the site "shadowserver.org" or that foundation? That site seems to be roaming the net trying to change router firmware these days. Think I saw Krebs' name associated wi...
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[07:25:55] <exec> 08└─I am getting my box of them out. You are not allowed into my 3 story cushion fort to play.
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[08:17:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02How old was he when he started driving? - 0617 and Going Blind: The High Stakes of Getting Into a Gene Therapy Trial - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:17:43] <exec> 08└─He couldn't see to drive anymore last year? And he's 17? Who the fuck allows 16 year olds to drive? Oh wait, of course it's America.
[08:17:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:2) 02Re:You have backups, right? - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 1082 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:17:58] <exec> 08└─"No upgrade should ever touch user data at all." That is how Apple does it if you want figured that out by accident. This past weekend I upgraded to El Capitan from Mavericks did the install on external drive. One that I had a bootable copy of Mavericks on forgot to erase the partition so it install...
[08:18:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Who? - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:18:00] <exec> 08└─Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which?
[08:18:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02They ruined the old ones... - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 749 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:18:02] <exec> 08└─I recently re-installed windows 7. Fresh clean ssd. No user data involved at all. And... You can no longer go from a retail windows 7 ultimate cd to a working system without major work, internet searches and lots of fucking around. It's just not possible. The very first update. an update for windo...
[08:18:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Signature? - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:18:23] <exec> 08└─Asus and Acer are good enough and have gotten better. Build quality has gone up for most laptops as SSD, fanless, and Ultrabook features have been adopted. There's no reason to stick with Lenovo if you don't like their practices, and everyone else has not heard of the issues and doesn't care about L...
[08:18:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02Re:wait, what? - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:18:57] <exec> 08└─Simple answer: all the words are in the same sentence.
[08:18:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not Lenovo specific but... - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 632 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:18:58] <exec> 08└─Went to the Microsoft store today (the retail place) and looked at all the laptops on offer. Walked out disgusted...as hard as I tried, I just couldn't stomach Windows 10 and that high pressure sales bullshit. Walked over to Best Buy, was greeted but mostly left alone until I had a question. Walked...
[08:19:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:believed? - 06TAILS Linux 2.6 is Out - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:10] <exec> 08└─Why do you write "almost certainly contains spyware" rather than "could conceivably contain spyware"?
[08:21:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pork aside, - 06USS Zumwalt Breaks Down During Sea Trials - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:21:42] <exec> 08└─Fire a large inventory of long range missiles at an amazing rate of fire with an crew size less than any current destroyer and even smaller than most current frigates.
[08:22:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Seems Akamai has kicked him - 06Brian Krebs' Blog Hit by 665 Gbps DDoS Attack - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:22:22] <exec> 08└─https://twitter.com/briankrebs/status/779047286043185152 [twitter.com] It's looking likely that KrebsOnSecurity will be offline for a while. Akamai's kicking me off their network tonight.
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[09:17:48] <exec> 08└─Who the fuck allows 16 year olds to drive?
[09:18:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:typical windows cycle - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:18:01] <exec> 08└─Windows 3.1 kinda grew on me. It will run (well) in 6MB of RAM.
[09:18:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You have backups, right? - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:18:05] <exec> 08└─The problem with that is that Joe Average doesn't create multiple partitions or has multiple internal disks, so when the upgrade fucks up the system partition their data goes with it.
[09:18:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03blackhawk [5275] (Score:2) 02Re:You have backups, right? - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 1321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:18:08] <exec> 08└─The problem is even worse than this. Have you ever tried to move your user account onto another drive using Windows 10? The system fights you every step of the way. Under Windows 7 I had moved my user folder to a separate partition, because it was loaded with GBs of data and the SSD was groaning und...
[09:18:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:Who? - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:18:12] <exec> 08└─Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which?
[09:18:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score:2) 02Re:entire article is flame bait - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 714 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:18:52] <exec> 08└─Be fair, Win 7 is 7 years old and out of support (unless you have extended support contract), no surprise it won't see new hw - a 7yr old Linux probably won't see it either. Now going back to the Lenovo laptops in question, apparently even the latest Windows won't install either, because of lack of...
[09:19:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Of course! - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:19:04] <exec> 08└─Real philosophers write in the sand using a pointed stick.
[09:19:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score:2) 02Re:Of course! - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:19:05] <exec> 08└─Or buy a PC from a vendor that tests/certifies its systems with Linux. Like er Lenovo for instance... https://support.lenovo.com [lenovo.com] [Note the laptop referred to in TFA is _not_ on the list...]
[09:19:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The Lenovo rep's response given - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:19:13] <exec> 08└─The Lenovo rep's response [...]given before the company PR people got involved.
[09:19:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02And a better solution is what, exactly? - 06TAILS Linux 2.6 is Out - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:19:25] <exec> 08└─which almost certainly contains spyware
[09:19:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] 02Re:HOWTO Steal Electricity - 06Dutch Brothers in Court for Bitcoin Mining With Stolen Power - 2742 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:19:55] <exec> 08└─The problem with this is while the apparent power looks high, the work is only done by the real power which is lower. The lagging or leading current is never in phase with the voltage which decreases the available amount of "work" able to be exerted. If you want to steal power the right way, get it...
[09:19:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] 02Re:HOWTO Steal Electricity - 06Dutch Brothers in Court for Bitcoin Mining With Stolen Power - 1553 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:19:57] <exec> 08└─He was actually *the best* teachers I have ever had. He could control a classroom full of rowdy teenagers, most of whom were from the surrounding ghetto, with ease. His numerous stories, teaching methods, and knowledge made him an exemplary teacher. Yea, he was a bastard, little NYC Italian guy so y...
[09:20:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] 02Re:If you act like a d*** - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 407 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:20:54] <exec> 08└─Interesting but wrong. Shining a light on corruption used to make the rats scurry for cover. Now we have the most corrupt politician to ever run for president on the ballot, taking out witnesses against her wholesale and people are still going to vote for her even though they know this. They don't e...
[09:20:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If you act like a d*** - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:20:58] <exec> 08└─I'm sorry, but that's Monica's job.
[09:21:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:If you act like a d*** - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:21:07] <exec> 08└─In fact, checkpoints are on Constitutionally shaky ground themselves since there exists no probable cause.
[09:21:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:If you act like a d*** - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:21:13] <exec> 08└─Agreed. The 4th amendment is written in the absolute. It offers no leeway for compelling interests of the state or for minimal intrusiveness.
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[10:17:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Still Searching for that Loophole - 06'Raiders of Found Ark' Decipher Ancient Biblical Scroll, Without Unrolling It - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:17:48] <exec> 08└─God Loves Sodomy No Take Backs
[10:18:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:typical windows cycle - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:18:16] <exec> 08└─Windows XP what I assume everyone here considers an amazing thing
[10:18:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You have backups, right? - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:18:22] <exec> 08└─That's "c:\fubar" you insensitive clod. As in the time-honored .mil acronym for Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition.
[10:18:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You have backups, right? - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:18:24] <exec> 08└─You have backups, right?
[10:18:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Who? - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:18:29] <exec> 08└─maybe "witch"...
[10:18:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] (Score:2) 02Makes sense - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:18:32] <exec> 08└─A spokesman for Microsoft added, "In order to better understand the effects of cancer, we are seeking to have windows 10 installed on as many computers as possible."
[10:19:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not Lenovo specific but... - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:19:32] <exec> 08└─From fire into frying pan... I guess every minute one iDiot is born.
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[11:18:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03ewk [5923] (Score:1) 02"The Windows 10 upgrade is a choice..." - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:18:29] <exec> 08└─but you had to fight tooth and nail in NOT making that choice.
[11:18:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Signature? - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 780 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:18:53] <exec> 08└─The specifications I found say "Hard Drive 256GB PCIe SSD" which could be a single card; I didn't see a mention of a drive bay. http://shop.lenovo.com [lenovo.com] It does seem bizarre that they'd have a "RAID" consisting of one storage device. I happened u...
[11:18:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''the conspiracy thing'' - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 725 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:18:57] <exec> 08└─I trust Nick Heath and Jack Wallen over at TechRepublic to get the story right. Here's Jack's ideas on this: Lenovo sucks at making BIOSes. [googleusercontent.com] (orig) [techrepublic.com] . This reminds me of Foxconn and ACPI back in 2008. [1] [googleusercontent.com] (orig) [slashdot.org] [1] hans...
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[12:17:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Computer scientists? - 06'Raiders of Found Ark' Decipher Ancient Biblical Scroll, Without Unrolling It - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:17:56] <exec> 08└─That day is finally here, as computer scientists
[12:17:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Computer scientists? - 06'Raiders of Found Ark' Decipher Ancient Biblical Scroll, Without Unrolling It - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:17:57] <exec> 08└─Computer scientists are bottoms. Bottom. Up. Men. Obsessed. With. Details.
[12:17:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score:1) 02Exciting for historians - 06'Raiders of Found Ark' Decipher Ancient Biblical Scroll, Without Unrolling It - 682 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:17:59] <exec> 08└─This will be an incredibly exciting era for historians, as it gives rise to the possibility of finding lost texts, which are known by references from others, but which we have no known copies. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] A somewhat breathless review of seven lost works is...
[12:18:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Warm_Fusion [6138] (Score:1) 02Re:How old was he when he started driving? - 0617 and Going Blind: The High Stakes of Getting Into a Gene Therapy Trial - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:18:14] <exec> 08└─You're allowed to drive at 17 in the UK, but if you have a disability you're allowed to start at 16.
[12:18:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Who? - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:18:40] <exec> 08└─Witch! She's a witch! https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[12:18:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:Who? - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 495 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:18:41] <exec> 08└─Great, another company using punctuation as part of their trademarked name. I expect this will result in another spate of headlines on El Reg liberally salted with the offending mark; Yahoo!(tm) gets the same treatment. [theregister.co.uk] This headline on The Register would read "Windows? 10? Softw...
[12:19:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Signature? - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:19:07] <exec> 08└─I agree with you. I've had Thinkpads the last 15 years after too many bad experiences with Dells and HPs. My IBM Thinkpad was great, and the best laptop I ever owned; I actually formed an emotional attachment to the thing, which is something I never do with machines. The first Lenovo laptop was fine...
[12:20:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:And a better solution is what, exactly? - 06TAILS Linux 2.6 is Out - 962 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:20:02] <exec> 08└─We discussed this last month. I wrote something incorrect about OpenBSD and didn't bother to post a correction. https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org] Anyway, OpenBSD doesn't, in my estimation, attain th...
[12:23:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02my take. - 06Brian Krebs' Blog Hit by 665 Gbps DDoS Attack - 553 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:23:15] <exec> 08└─Hopefully Krebs won't ever find a target, that is too big for him. DDOS is fine, survivable. But if he goes after the wrong people, he might risk more then his website's availability. I often wonder, whether he's still alive cos he didn't find anything big enough, or cos the damage he does is not en...
[12:23:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Echo Cancellation - 06Simultaneous Radio Xmit/Receive, on the SAME Frequency - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:23:31] <exec> 08└─Except it's not.
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[13:18:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:typical windows cycle - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:18:26] <exec> 08└─I used to run 3.1 on a 286 with 1MB of ram, did the job just fine.
[13:18:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:typical windows cycle - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:18:28] <exec> 08└─Windows XP what I assume everyone here considers an amazing thing
[13:18:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:You have backups, right? - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:18:37] <exec> 08└─I don't understand why an OS upgrade should be touching any files on a user's Desktop or Documents or really any User folder.
[13:18:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:Who? - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:18:45] <exec> 08└─Great, another company using punctuation as part of their trademarked name.
[13:18:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmoschner [3296] (Score:2) 02Re:They ruined the old ones... - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 593 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:18:49] <exec> 08└─That is a windows update issue. There are problems across 7,8, and 10 with windows update. It will often simply not work or break itself for no reason. The two fixes I've found to work are: 1) clearing out the contents of \windows\softwaredistribution This is supposed to be the cache for windows upd...
[13:20:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:And a better solution is what, exactly? - 06TAILS Linux 2.6 is Out - 488 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:20:09] <exec> 08└─Agreed. I'm not sure you realise that I was replying to the OP, not to your post. However, he might have a specially configured version of, say, OpenBSD which is using TOR at all times and from which he has stripped all closed source drivers. Maybe, .... or maybe not. Like you, I suspect that he has...
[13:20:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Time to hit the road - 06DNA Hints at Earlier Human Exodus From Africa - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:24] <exec> 08└─No doubt, 60,000 years ago, riots, vandalism, looting, and crime "encouraged" emigrants to leave for more civilized areas.
[13:21:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If you act like a d*** - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:21:22] <exec> 08└─Dear god, my sides man! Well played!
[13:23:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Name's the Same - 06Simultaneous Radio Xmit/Receive, on the SAME Frequency - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:23:49] <exec> 08└─crapper was a term that came into use after Crapper's invention, so does not count as nominative determinism. In other words, the crapper was named for the man, so it could not have determined his fate.
[13:24:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:I will take this bet - 06Microsoft to "Solve the Problem of Cancer" Within Ten Years - Scientists are Skeptical - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:24:23] <exec> 08└─even better metric is value provided per dollar paid. Open Source comes out way ahead.
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[14:18:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Pending sale - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:18:01] <exec> 08└─And it only took 2 years to let us know.
[14:18:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Funny) 02The important question is . . . - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:18:03] <exec> 08└─Was anything of value lost? Forgive me, but I never did like or trust a company that uses "yahoo" for a name. On second thought, don't forgive me. Yahoo sucks. It's your fault for trusting them with any personal data. You're (mostly) the same people who trust Mark Suckerberg with your personal data,...
[14:18:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02Re:The important question is . . . - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:18:05] <exec> 08└─I'm trying to think if anything of value was lost with my account... I started a yahoo.co.uk mail account when the 30 megs of storage was significantly more than yahoo.com (8megs I seem to remember). But haven't used it in years. I think I bought a domain name once with that user account but I don't...
[14:18:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02who hasn't been targeted by hackers? - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:18:07] <exec> 08└─An easier way to do this would be to make a list of who has not gotten hacked. Every day there's a constant stream of sites that get hacked, to the point I can't keep up.
[14:18:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Awesome title! - 06'Raiders of Found Ark' Decipher Ancient Biblical Scroll, Without Unrolling It - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:18:23] <exec> 08└─I don't remember that title from the submissions queue, Marty. It's awesome, though - whether you thought it up yourself, or you found it somewhere. Some here will call it click bait, but I love it. As for the story, it's almost as awesome as the title. Cool stuff.
[14:18:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Awesome title! - 06'Raiders of Found Ark' Decipher Ancient Biblical Scroll, Without Unrolling It - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:18:24] <exec> 08└─Sorry, the title is my fault. I just couldn't resist.
[14:18:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fnord666 [652] (Score:2) 02Re:How old was he when he started driving? - 0617 and Going Blind: The High Stakes of Getting Into a Gene Therapy Trial - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:18:41] <exec> 08└─You're allowed to drive at 17 in the UK, but if you have a disability you're allowed to start at 16.
[14:18:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fnord666 [652] (Score:3, Funny) 02Driving in Florida? - 0617 and Going Blind: The High Stakes of Getting Into a Gene Therapy Trial - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:18:42] <exec> 08└─His vision must be really gone if they took his license away in Florida.
[14:19:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:typical windows cycle - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 1602 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:19:00] <exec> 08└─Windows XP what I assume everyone here considers an amazing thing and a mistake for MS to ditch. 15 years ago it was safe to assume most people "here" used some form of linux, at least at home, and the arguments were about whether debian or slackware was the true OS. Sometime in the mid-00s the clie...
[14:19:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:1) 02Re:typical windows cycle - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:19:01] <exec> 08└─. . . and the arguments were about whether debian or slackware was the true OS.
[14:19:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:You have backups, right? - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:19:10] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foobar [wikipedia.org] Turn in your geek card on your way out.
[14:19:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:You have backups, right? - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:19:15] <exec> 08└─As of Windows 8.1 at least, they're still defaulting to hiding all file extensions by default, which is moronic and somewhat dangerous, too.
[14:19:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Signature? - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 2618 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:19:49] <exec> 08└─Not really. Your comment just shows that you really haven't been paying attention. You are coming from a place of ignorance, which only spreads mis-information regarding Lenovo. At no point since the Lenovo acquisition, has a Lenovo machine lead benchmarks in its class. Since 2008, Lenovo has system...
[14:20:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:entire article is flame bait - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:20:05] <exec> 08└─My Linux hasn't crashed since I started using it 10 years ago.
[14:20:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:entire article is flame bait - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:20:11] <exec> 08└─Aspie literalism for the fail. (1) Those are nearly 20 years old now (2) Hyperbole learn how it works.
[14:21:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Political correctness challenge. - 06DNA Hints at Earlier Human Exodus From Africa - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:21:03] <exec> 08└─You will note that I've not indicated that any subspecies of man is in any way inferior to another subspecies. I've merely noted that there are differences
[14:21:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:Political correctness challenge. - 06DNA Hints at Earlier Human Exodus From Africa - 844 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:21:04] <exec> 08└─Not really. There are no meaningful evolutionary pressures on humans. We're like alligators or big cats in the sense that once you hit the apex predator leagues you don't have any reason to change. Skin color... Nose bridges... eye forms... If you put all the variance on a binary tree, the differenc...
[14:22:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If you act like a d*** - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:22:20] <exec> 08└─How about a 0-score mod or a -0.1? Disagree mods don't get used very often, so I don't know if it'd be any use.
[14:22:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:If you act like a d*** - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:22:22] <exec> 08└─Not a terrible idea and very easy to implement. Disagree gets used pretty regularly, just not as regularly as I'd like, and people usually comment as well since the mod didn't change the score of the comment.
[14:22:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:If you act like a d*** - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:22:32] <exec> 08└─testi-lying That is what is occurring when police are giving their sworn testi-phony.
[14:22:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If you act like a d*** - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 497 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:22:49] <exec> 08└─Also a further explanation is necessary: Finding a reason to stop someone AFTER you have stopped them is a violation of their constitutional rights. There exists no reasonable suspicion if you have to make up a reason to stop them AFTER you stopped them. If they had a reason to harass him, they woul...
[14:23:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Behemoth ?? - 06USS Zumwalt Breaks Down During Sea Trials - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:23:16] <exec> 08└─I can't say if that is a bad thing. It probably makes more sense from their POV.
[14:23:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Pork aside, - 06USS Zumwalt Breaks Down During Sea Trials - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:23:27] <exec> 08└─Strike land targets (that have AA).
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[15:17:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02wooo! - 06Codingame Gamifies Coding Education - 861 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:17:57] <exec> 08└─Lets hear it for extrinsic motivation! Having written research papers on the gamification in education and remaining unconvinced of its ability to encourage deep learning, I have to say that this kind of thing is unlikely to really do much because focusing on reward and recognition is fine until the...
[15:18:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The important question is . . . - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:18:08] <exec> 08└─I use my yahoo account (under a fake name, of course) to register on sites like foxnews.com so I can troll in the forums along with everyone else. That's about it.
[15:18:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:The important question is . . . - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 601 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:18:10] <exec> 08└─See, your standards are looser than mine. I stop at "I never did like or trust a company". Or more precisely, I trust them to do whatever they think will make themselves the most money, which includes: Skimping on security unless it's likely to become a PR problem, selling off targeting based on any...
[15:18:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The important question is . . . - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 842 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:18:12] <exec> 08└─I doubt anything of value was lost. I'm very sure whomever has my data already had my name, email address, telephone number, and DOB from prior hacks. The loss of a password salt matters not; I'll just change my password - in fact, I think I have since the breach occurred. Now, praytell indicate to...
[15:18:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:who hasn't been targeted by hackers? - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:18:15] <exec> 08└─> An easier way to do this would be to make a list of who has not gotten hacked. Nobody. If it is online and is even remotely interesting to anyone anywhere in the world, its hacked. The only modicum of safety is in offline storage and while that's no guarantee either, at least the effort required t...
[15:18:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Maybe someone could explain this to me. - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 641 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:18:17] <exec> 08└─I have a yahoo account I use for spam etc. I got a notification to reset my password. Fine, fine. So it went like this: Old password: blahblah@123 New password: blahblah@123! # note extra char - "!" Yahoo! griped, "Your new password is too similar to a password you used before. Please try again." Q...
[15:18:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score:1) 02Re:Maybe someone could explain this to me. - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:18:19] <exec> 08└─Did the password change process ask for your old password and your new password?
[15:18:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Maybe someone could explain this to me. - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:18:22] <exec> 08└─Nope--just two blanks for the new password. It seemed rather strange, if you ask me...
[15:18:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Maybe someone could explain this to me. - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:18:24] <exec> 08└─if you had to enter both your old password and new password in the same form, probably inline javascript. if not, then yeah it was stored in plaintext on their servers.
[15:18:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Celestial [4891] (Score:2) 02Much Worse than Passwords - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:18:26] <exec> 08└─What's much worse than stealing usernames and encrypted passwords... is that the hacker(s) stole "encrypted or unencrypted security questions and answers" [businessinsider.com]. Granted, it doesn't matter to me as I don't have a Yahoo! account, but I imagine quite a few people gave Yahoo! valuable s...
[15:19:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You have backups, right? - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 416 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:19:27] <exec> 08└─What multiple partitions? It's all done on C:\ with folders. No extra drives. No partitioning. To reiterate: 1. The installer mkdir C:\foobar. 2. Sets the boot-loader to reach C:\foobar\bootme.bin. 3. Reboot to bootme. 4. Bootme then moves everything not in C:\foobar (windows, program files, random...
[15:19:34] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aristarchus [2645] 02I, for one. . . - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 548 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:19:34] <exec> 08└─I condemn Windows Ten. Not for the deception, not for the tricks, not for the spying, not for the false pretenses. I condemn it because it is Windows. The people behind this ought to be forcibly apprehended, thrown roughly to the ground, and crucified. The degree to which the promise of computationa...
[15:19:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:I, for one. . . - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 908 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:19:36] <exec> 08└─Yes that. An OS is to provide a standard foundation upon which to run compatible applications. And abstract away the raw hardware. Pass data between applications. Make it easy to manage your files and applications. And basically get out of the way. Applications should be compatible basically forever...
[15:19:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:I, for one. . . - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 1711 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:19:38] <exec> 08└─An OS is to provide a standard foundation upon which to run compatible applications. And abstract away the raw hardware. Pass data between applications. Make it easy to manage your files and applications. And basically get out of the way. All wrong. An OS should be easy enough to use, especially in...
[15:19:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:Who? - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 727 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:19:46] <exec> 08└─Sounds kinda like a British version of Consumer Reports. I guess I can cut them some slack considering that they didn't actually trademark a name with punctuation in it for their organization; doing something like that with a publication's title (which can be visually distinguished with simple forma...
[15:19:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Who? - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:19:48] <exec> 08└─Which Witch condemned Windows 10?
[15:19:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:"The Windows 10 upgrade is a choice..." - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 675 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:19:54] <exec> 08└─The message you get BEFORE Windows 10 is installed: Clippy: It looks like you're trying to get useful work done. Would you like me to help you install Windows 10? To install Windows 10 simply do any of the following: 1. Click Yes, I would like to install Windows 10. 2. Click No, I would not like to...
[15:20:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:entire article is flame bait - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:20:41] <exec> 08└─But haven't you heard . . . Microsoft Loves Linux And . . . Sharks Love Fish Foxes Love Chickens etc.
[15:21:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:1) 02Re:Update now, numerous security holes in Tails 2. - 06TAILS Linux 2.6 is Out - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:21:12] <exec> 08└─I think /var/opt/tard would not pollute the top level name space with "b".
[15:21:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score:2) 02Re:believed? - 06TAILS Linux 2.6 is Out - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:21:16] <exec> 08└─Because distributing spyware is legal and profitable, and the law enforcement around the world encourages it, as long as they get the digest. Everyone is doing it: Microsoft, Apple, Google, Facebook, and every app maker. Only an idiot wouldn't do.
[15:21:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02What about Windows 10? - 06TAILS Linux 2.6 is Out - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:21:21] <exec> 08└─Isn't Windows 10 the most secure way to keep all of your personal information, habits, browsing history, photos private between just you and Microsoft*? * and Microsoft's carefully selected third party partners
[15:24:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03scruffybeard [533] (Score:2) 02Re:Pork aside, - 06USS Zumwalt Breaks Down During Sea Trials - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:24:01] <exec> 08└─No one is arguing that an aircraft carrier isn't a formidable weapon. Like any other tool it has advantages and disadvantages that can be augmented with other types of ships.
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[16:18:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02To each her own - 06Codingame Gamifies Coding Education - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:18:16] <exec> 08└─People have different preferred learning styles. In addition, many people learn better from multiple approaches. Gamification is unlikely to produce a star programmer (or anything else, other than a star gamification player), but if it helps people get their feet wet, more power for them. BTW I feel...
[16:18:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:The important question is . . . - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:18:28] <exec> 08└─When one trolls on foxnews forums, is it still a troll? or are you posting rational and reasonable opinions there?
[16:18:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:The important question is . . . - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:18:30] <exec> 08└─When a bear shits in the woods, does it make a grunting sound?
[16:18:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score:1) 02Re:Maybe someone could explain this to me. - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 373 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:18:39] <exec> 08└─Yeah. If they aren't storing plaintext then they would have to store hashes of substrings and compare those to hashed substrings of the new password. That sounds way less secure than storing one password hash. Cracking a good 10 character password on commodity GPUs would take centuries, but if you c...
[16:18:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Maybe someone could explain this to me. - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:18:42] <exec> 08└─maybe there's some cleverness at work
[16:18:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Maybe someone could explain this to me. - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:18:44] <exec> 08└─Yeah, if it never asked for your old password then indeed they are storing it plaintext. For shame. It's scary how many sites do this, or even the better but still bad unsalted hashes. I even ran into a couple places who had forgot password forms that would actually email you your set password rathe...
[16:18:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03SrLnclt [1473] (Score:2) 02Re:Much Worse than Passwords - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 845 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:18:47] <exec> 08└─I never understood the supposed security of these questions and answers online. Maybe it worked for banks 25 years ago to ask for your mother's maiden name. Today people tweet about what they had for dinner last Tuesday night. Finding out where they went to high school and what the school's mascot w...
[16:18:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02ugh - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:18:49] <exec> 08└─Time to find my 25+ Yahoo email accounts and update the passwords. If this happens to Gmail I'm dead.
[16:18:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:ugh - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:18:52] <exec> 08└─What do you do with all those accounts? Just curious...
[16:19:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02olbigatory..... - 06'Raiders of Found Ark' Decipher Ancient Biblical Scroll, Without Unrolling It - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:19:11] <exec> 08└─Good evening. Here is the news on Friday, the 27th of Geldof. Archaeologists near Mount Sinai have discovered what is believed to be a missing page from the Bible. The page is presently being carbon dated in Bonn. If genuine it belongs at the beginning of the Bible and is believed to read "To my dar...
[16:19:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Unintended consequences - 06Salmon Trucking Success Could Open Miles of Historical Spawning Habitat - 678 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:19:18] <exec> 08└─I wonder what kind of unexpected long term consequences there will to this. I'm thinking of farm chickens which are literally unable to reproduce naturally due to their enormous breasts (yes, yes, snicker away). I can't help wonder if somehow the fish will end up conditioned to go to a specific loca...
[16:19:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What? - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:19:42] <exec> 08└─So Windows is designed to help people to use Windows? Well, I couldn't have said better what's wrong with Windows. What happened to the idea of designing operating systems to help people run their applications on their computer?
[16:20:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:You have backups, right? - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:20:00] <exec> 08└─See also the Jargon File entry. [catb.org] Now if you'll excuse me I'll get back to frobbing my Molly guards.
[16:20:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Who? - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:20:13] <exec> 08└─Witch! She's a witch!
[16:20:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What's Which? - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:20:24] <exec> 08└─And I'm kinda serious. Is it something I really should have been aware of? Is it kind of a British version of Consumer Reports or something? Or is this just a publicity ploy for an irrelevant group to make money off of hating Windows?
[16:20:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Titan and Europa, Again - 06NASA Scientists Find 'Impossible' Cloud On Titan -- Again - 1343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:20:34] <exec> 08└─I used to get so excited about Titan and Europa: finally, a place with a reasonably non-deadly atmosphere, and another one that may harbor a salty ocean. More than a decade back, while a student in my teens, I heard the story about the biodiversity eruption during the Cambrian: exotic, spooky and my...
[16:21:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:entire article is flame bait - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:21:15] <exec> 08└─Its your kind of stupid that guarantees ineffectiveness in actually combating the problems of being the underdog. Far easier to believe in conspiracy than banality. But banality is endemic and automatic and is thus the far greater threat.
[16:25:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02pCell/DIDO - 06Simultaneous Radio Xmit/Receive, on the SAME Frequency - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:44] <exec> 08└─Whatever happened to Steve Perlman's miracle radio technologies?
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[17:18:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Along with Disagree, Touché - 06TV Manufacturers Get their Own Dieselgate Over Power Consumption Tests - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:18:11] <exec> 08└─Maybe we need a Shocked, Shocked! mod category.
[17:18:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:wooo! - 06Codingame Gamifies Coding Education - 459 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:18:20] <exec> 08└─Here's the thing about gamifying coding: If you're coding something fun, it's already pushing the reward centers of your brain as soon as you get the damn thing to actually work correctly. So you get them started with writing games, or graphics, or something else totally pointless and silly, not spr...
[17:18:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:To each her own - 06Codingame Gamifies Coding Education - 824 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:18:23] <exec> 08└─You are right that people have preferred learning styles, however the actual effect of learning in your preferred style versus a different one is negligible. The whole learning styles stuff has been thoroughly debunked for some time now. This lecture covers learning styles and some of the other big...
[17:18:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:To each her own - 06Codingame Gamifies Coding Education - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:18:25] <exec> 08└─This lecture covers learning styles and some of the other big 'neuro' myths in learning: " rel="url2html-1962">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_a9En4YgH8
[17:18:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:To each her own - 06Codingame Gamifies Coding Education - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:18:27] <exec> 08└─It is unlikely that listening to a learning resource on programming would do anyone any good, though (i.e. Auditory).
[17:18:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:To each her own - 06Codingame Gamifies Coding Education - 547 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:18:29] <exec> 08└─You lose a lot in the non-interactive nature of the Khan videos, but I think looking at them as a replacement for proper instruction is the wrong way to do it. They're a great refresher course for someone who just needs a nudge in the right direction. I'm really scruffy with math that's much more co...
[17:18:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:The important question is . . . - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:18:44] <exec> 08└─That bear is nice enough to leave the woods and go shit at the dump.
[17:18:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03julian [6003] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe someone could explain this to me. - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:18:55] <exec> 08└─That's exactly how it's done although knowing Yahoo they probably found a way to leak information from that too
[17:18:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe someone could explain this to me. - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:18:58] <exec> 08└─On possibility is that your old password was weak enough that they were able to crack it. Sounds doubtful though.
[17:18:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe someone could explain this to me. - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:00] <exec> 08└─My previous Fortune-500 company used to have this too. Apparently it's a feature. They explicitly said that too many consecutive chars were similar. Interestingly, it was thoroughly defeated by changing a single char in the middle. I'd really like to know how it works without being a major secur...
[17:19:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:Much Worse than Passwords - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:04] <exec> 08└─I seen challenge questions as less secure secondary passwords. They can effectively prevent account sharing though (I have run into the problem).
[17:19:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:ugh - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:08] <exec> 08└─Separate account for each online identity, or one account for a small cluster of related site signups under a single identity.
[17:19:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Unintended consequences - 06Salmon Trucking Success Could Open Miles of Historical Spawning Habitat - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:36] <exec> 08└─Well, elected officials tend to be in the prime demographic for fishing. And they can easily argue that some of their most reliable voters also are... I'm not afraid that we will ever see a shortage of golf courses during droughts or fish trucking funds.
[17:19:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Unintended consequences - 06Salmon Trucking Success Could Open Miles of Historical Spawning Habitat - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:37] <exec> 08└─If one of the trucks rolls over or otherwise causes trouble, will the next step be a fish pipeline that vacuums up the returning fish and magically (from the fish perspective) delivers them to the promised water above the dam?
[17:19:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:How old was he when he started driving? - 0617 and Going Blind: The High Stakes of Getting Into a Gene Therapy Trial - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:49] <exec> 08└─Generally, it's 16 in the US, but it's state by state to an extent. Around here you can get a learner's permit at 15 and drive with supervision and at 16 you can get a restricted license. You can't get an unrestricted license until you're 18 though.
[17:19:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02Re:How old was he when he started driving? - 0617 and Going Blind: The High Stakes of Getting Into a Gene Therapy Trial - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:51] <exec> 08└─Driving competently has more to do with being able to reach the pedals than how old you are. If you understand the rules of the road and know how to turn the wheel and which pedals to push, what's the problem? I know a lot of people who started driving by themselves ~12-15 (and who wasn't taught how...
[17:20:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:typical windows cycle - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:20:14] <exec> 08└─* tabs vs spaces * emacs vs vi * kde vs gnome * rpm vs deb * lilo vs grub The only battle there is lilo vs grub, the rest only have one answer.
[17:20:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:Who? - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:20:40] <exec> 08└─they didn't actually trademark a name with punctuation in it for their organization
[17:22:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:HOWTO Steal Electricity - 06Dutch Brothers in Court for Bitcoin Mining With Stolen Power - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:22:57] <exec> 08└─Ha! I forgot I posted that there. Glad I passed along the knowledge.
[17:22:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not worthy - 06Dutch Brothers in Court for Bitcoin Mining With Stolen Power - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:22:59] <exec> 08└─Stealing electricity would not be SoylentNews-worthy. Why does mining Bitcoins with it make it worthy?
[17:23:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Get A Life! - 06Star Trek Fan Films May Not be Dead After All - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:23:17] <exec> 08└─Shatner spoke a throw-away line....
[17:23:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bob_super [1357] 02Re:If you act like a d*** - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 491 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:23:59] <exec> 08└─> this is not the country I was raised in Yes it is. But your eyes are a bit more open. There's a very long list of facts to corroborate that these things didn't start yesterday. > I don't recognize my home anymore Understandable, since the crude spotlight makes things look very different from the p...
[17:24:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:If you act like a d*** - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 491 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:24:06] <exec> 08└─> this is not the country I was raised in Yes it is. But your eyes are a bit more open. There's a very long list of facts to corroborate that these things didn't start yesterday. > I don't recognize my home anymore Understandable, since the crude spotlight makes things look very different from the p...
[17:24:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:If you act like a d*** - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 610 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:24:08] <exec> 08└─> I know it makes you feel good and smug to have been right all along No, it makes me angry that people who have had all the world's information at their fingertips for well over a decade are still falling for basic "our system is the best/strongest/bravest, the other are jealous retarded idiots" bl...
[17:24:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:If you act like a d*** - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:24:19] <exec> 08└─That's also true. Personally, I have mixed feelings about it, as I hate sharing the road with drunks, but I'm not really sure they're particularly effective other than as a scare tactic and it is a bit questionable in terms of the constitutionality of it.
[17:24:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If you act like a d*** - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:24:22] <exec> 08└─"a bit questionable in terms of the constitutionality of it." checkpoints are not "a bit questionable", you bootlicker.
[17:24:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03JeanCroix [573] (Score:2) 02Re:If you act like a d*** - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:24:24] <exec> 08└─When I lived in CT, the checkpoints were deemed constitutional because they were publicly announced in advance. There was a small section in the local paper that listed when and where the checkpoints would occur. I still don't think that's in the spirit of the 4th amendment, but that's the workaroun...
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[18:18:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02just a toy - 06In the Wild, Goldfish Turn From Pet to Pest - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:18:08] <exec> 08└─"It's just a toy. It won't hurt you." "A toy? There are millions of those things floating around in space destroying everything they touch." "I don't know what you mean." "They destroyed your planet and please, don't tell me you don't remember because I think you do."
[18:18:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Edible - 06In the Wild, Goldfish Turn From Pet to Pest - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:18:09] <exec> 08└─I'll just leave this here. https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[18:18:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Along with Disagree, Touché - 06TV Manufacturers Get their Own Dieselgate Over Power Consumption Tests - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:18:18] <exec> 08└─Also, a -1: Gate Suffix
[18:18:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Benchmarks - 06TV Manufacturers Get their Own Dieselgate Over Power Consumption Tests - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:18:20] <exec> 08└─Its the same old story. If you are going to measure something, make sure you are measuring what matters because everybody will optimize for what you measure. That's one reason these sorts of standards need to be constantly revisited and updated, its the never-ending war between what matters and wh...
[18:18:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Someone get the DOE a clue! - 06TV Manufacturers Get their Own Dieselgate Over Power Consumption Tests - 742 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:18:22] <exec> 08└─A long time ago an invention was made, one that made it possible to measure electronic devices and their various properties. The multimeter was a great leap forward, allowing engineers to directly measure devices in real time. Then some brilliant person realized that some people don't want to disass...
[18:18:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02edutainment - 06Codingame Gamifies Coding Education - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:18:36] <exec> 08└─I prefer to think of them as a form of entertainment. They are interesting but I view ones on topics I don't have a practical need for.
[18:18:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:The important question is . . . - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 748 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:18:55] <exec> 08└─"Now, praytell indicate to me how you live in the modern world wihtout giving up your personal information" It isn't possible to be on the internet without giving up information. But, one can be discriminatory about who, when, where, and why he gives up information. For instance, the big social medi...
[18:18:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Leebert [3511] (Score:2) 02Re:The important question is . . . - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:18:57] <exec> 08└─I never did like or trust a company that uses "yahoo" for a name.
[18:19:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:who hasn't been targeted by hackers? - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:19:01] <exec> 08└─>An easier way to do this would be to make a list of who has not gotten hacked. Tentatively speaking, Google? I don't recall hearing anything about Google breaches, which is a good thing considering the amount of data they have.
[18:19:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Maybe someone could explain this to me. - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:19:07] <exec> 08└─Not yahoo, but the way we test for that used to be to chop the last four characters, the last two characters and the last character and try those combinations. We would also started to brute the last character on both the single trim and no trim to check for suffix changes. So it would catch "oldpas...
[18:19:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Username [4557] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe someone could explain this to me. - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:19:15] <exec> 08└─Probably a common key on the server somewhere, and they just decrypt a hash. Assuming it’s this way otherwise you will lose all your email once you forget your password if they were encrypted with your password.
[18:19:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Much Worse than Passwords - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:19:20] <exec> 08└─I used to think I was so clever by answering all those questions "fuck you". What was your mother's maiden name? Fuck you. Where were you born? Fuck you. Then I realized someone could break into any of my accounts by just typing fuck you. Eh. Not so clever.
[18:19:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Much Worse than Passwords - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:19:22] <exec> 08└─The only problem is trying to remember your fake answers if you ever actually need to reset a password.
[18:19:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:ugh - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:19:28] <exec> 08└─Do you use the same phone number to get them all? If not, how do you get accounts when a phone number is required?
[18:19:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03http [1920] (Score:2) 02State-sponsored actors - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:19:30] <exec> 08└─How the hell do they know who, if anyone, is paying the hackers?
[18:19:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:olbigatory..... - 06'Raiders of Found Ark' Decipher Ancient Biblical Scroll, Without Unrolling It - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:19:50] <exec> 08└─Red Dwarf reference, if anyone's wondering...
[18:19:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:olbigatory..... - 06'Raiders of Found Ark' Decipher Ancient Biblical Scroll, Without Unrolling It - 959 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:19:52] <exec> 08└─I would have added that, but as dead text I think it works better as a comment ;-) Still, we all tip our hats to Douglas Adams: The Final Proof of the non-Existence of God was proved by a Babel Fish. Now, it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mind-bogglingly useful could hav...
[18:20:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:I, for one. . . - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 849 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:20:57] <exec> 08└─Most of what you describe are simply money grabs. Unnecessary. The commercial software could just raise it's price instead of inserting advertising, phoning home, spying on you, etc. As much as I agree with your final statement about not using a commercial OS from a for-profit company, I don't think...
[18:21:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] 02Makes sense - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 165 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:21:10] <exec> 08└─A spokesman for Microsoft added, "In order to better understand the effects of cancer, we are seeking to have windows 10 installed on as many computers as possible."
[18:21:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:1) 02Re:Titan and Europa, Again - 06NASA Scientists Find 'Impossible' Cloud On Titan -- Again - 604 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:21:22] <exec> 08└─I read your post. Let me kindly offer some expert advice. When you make a hat for yourself, it is best to use TWO layers of aluminum foil instead of a single layer. You would think this would only double the effectiveness of an aluminum foil hat. But it actually increases the effectiveness more than...
[18:21:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03fubari [4551] (Score:1) 02no good vs. some good Re:Signature? - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 1199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:21:49] <exec> 08└─Runaway wrote: "Personally, I've never seen a good reason for RAID on a laptop" For average users, I agree with you... but it is nice to have the option. For power users there are some good reasons (like video editing, or maybe running 3+ vm's on large data sets in my situation), RAID is a nice opti...
[18:22:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Update now, numerous security holes in Tails 2.5! - 06TAILS Linux 2.6 is Out - 87 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:22:33] <exec> 08└─https://tails.boum.org/security/Numerous_security_holes_in_2.5/index.en.html [boum.org]
[18:22:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03melikamp [1886] 02believed? - 06TAILS Linux 2.6 is Out - 195 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:22:38] <exec> 08└─TAILS is believed to be one of the most secure ways currently in use on the internet of protecting your identity, although it is possible to compromise information if it is used used incorrectly.
[18:22:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:And a better solution is what, exactly? - 06TAILS Linux 2.6 is Out - 1690 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:22:46] <exec> 08└─Well, your CPU 'could' contain a bomb! You cannot open your CPU chip and check that there isn't something tucked away in there. Are you going to throw your computer away? Or, perhaps, you will apply some commonsense and consider that no CPUs have been shown to explode, that some degree of measured r...
[18:22:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score:2) 02Re:And a better solution is what, exactly? - 06TAILS Linux 2.6 is Out - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:22:48] <exec> 08└─Well, your CPU 'could' contain a bomb! You cannot open your CPU chip and check that there isn't something tucked away in there. Are you going to throw your computer away? Or, perhaps, you will apply some commonsense and consider that no CPUs have been shown to explode, that some degree of measured r...
[18:24:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:If you act like a d*** - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:29] <exec> 08└─Trump is killing people? You'd think that would be making the daily news cycle!
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[19:18:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Edible - 06In the Wild, Goldfish Turn From Pet to Pest - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:18:07] <exec> 08└─I would have been much more impressed by the lightbulb if it had broken on camera. There's a studio audience, sure, but who knows what their field of view is like. I prefer honest liars. [youtube.com]
[19:18:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03julian [6003] (Score:2) 02Ecology - 06In the Wild, Goldfish Turn From Pet to Pest - 802 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:18:08] <exec> 08└─Australia is just a giant ecological experiment, isn't it? I was expecting the article to talk about some brilliant scientist who had the bright idea to introduce another species to eat the nuisance pests. [wikipedia.org] Then we'd need another species to eat THAT invasive species. But of course, Th...
[19:18:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02The indestructable goldfish - 06In the Wild, Goldfish Turn From Pet to Pest - 1073 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:18:11] <exec> 08└─When I was in Maine, an old man had a pond full of goldfish. The pond would freeze in the winter, you could walk out on the ice, and see the goldfish embedded in the ice. If the water were deeper, the fish would have gone deep, to avoid freezing. But the water was frozen solid, right down to the muc...
[19:18:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Benchmarks - 06TV Manufacturers Get their Own Dieselgate Over Power Consumption Tests - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:18:22] <exec> 08└─When we leave for more than a day or two, TVs and other "always on" devices have their power strips / surge protectors unplugged. Wouldn't want the fairies dancing while we are gone, and it's also an extra piece of mind if there happens to be a lightning storm while we are away.
[19:18:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Benchmarks - 06TV Manufacturers Get their Own Dieselgate Over Power Consumption Tests - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:18:24] <exec> 08└─If you're relying on government to update anything you might as well depend on the fact that government is so slow to update anything that by the time they update their standards the product in question would be obsolete anyways.
[19:18:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02disable energy savings? - 06TV Manufacturers Get their Own Dieselgate Over Power Consumption Tests - 1030 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:18:27] <exec> 08└─Wouldn't it be obvious that televisions are less power efficient than promised if you tune them to be so? If you turn up the backlit LED or whatever, of course it's going to be less efficient. I'd hope you'd do so knowing full well what is going to happen. I'm worried they'll disable the ability to...
[19:18:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:disable energy savings? - 06TV Manufacturers Get their Own Dieselgate Over Power Consumption Tests - 469 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:18:29] <exec> 08└─The problem is the multiplication of modes, which provide multiple valid test points. But the most common ones should be enough to agree to test. It's not like the power draw is currently the biggest item on the marketing list (in the US) - Off - Standby - analog-input HD and native resolut...
[19:18:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:2) 02Re:wooo! - 06Codingame Gamifies Coding Education - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:18:40] <exec> 08└─What is a game but a drill in colorful clothes. - The Diamond Age, Neal Stephenson
[19:19:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:ugh - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:19:30] <exec> 08└─I created a lot of accounts before phone number requirements became widespread. More recently, Gmail tries to look like it requires a phone number, but only really does it when you slip up and log on using a different IP or do something else "suspicious". Then you are locked out forever unless you g...
[19:19:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Oddity - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:19:33] <exec> 08└─AFAIK I have never had a Yahoo account. Still, I receive a message that I need to reset my password. Entered the email address they sent the message to, but it is "unknown". So: where did they get my email address? And why do they think I have a Yahoo account?
[19:19:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oddity - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:19:35] <exec> 08└─Maybe you had a Flickr account, or some other thing that Yahoo bought.
[19:20:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:typical windows cycle - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:20:44] <exec> 08└─No, that only has one answer, too.
[19:22:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Still looking for that 'Better Solution' - 06TAILS Linux 2.6 is Out - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:22:51] <exec> 08└─even though I cite precedent over and over and over again
[19:25:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Pork aside, - 06USS Zumwalt Breaks Down During Sea Trials - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:25:37] <exec> 08└─Not only that, but the aircraft carrier weighs in at over 100,000 DWT, and requires a crew of 5000. Zumwalt is probably exactly the type of ship that will be sitting between that carrier and the enemy providing air-defense and target pre-softening before those carrier based missile shooters take pil...
[19:26:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] 02Re:The largest in history! - 06Brian Krebs' Blog Hit by 665 Gbps DDoS Attack - 213 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:26:02] <exec> 08└─Lisa: I think a hurricane is coming! Homer: Oh Lisa! There's no record of a hurricane ever hitting Springfield. Lisa: Yes, but the records only go back to 1978 when the Hall of Records was mysteriously blown away.
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[20:18:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Knowledge Troll [5948] (Score:2) 02Do product key transfers still work? - 06Microsoft Finally Retires Get Windows 10 - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:18:04] <exec> 08└─I know the promotion is over but last I heard you could still use at least a windows 7 product key to activate a copy of windows 10. I suspect that will continue indefinitely. Has anyone tried since the official promotion ended?
[20:18:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Oh and I'm glad that shit is over - 06Microsoft Finally Retires Get Windows 10 - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:18:06] <exec> 08└─and they never do it again because fuck that was annoying.
[20:18:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02About that offer... - 06Microsoft Finally Retires Get Windows 10 - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:18:08] <exec> 08└─That offer was so hard to refuse that I kind of expected to find a horse's head in my bed one of these days.
[20:18:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02OK, I'm ready to upgrade - 06Microsoft Finally Retires Get Windows 10 - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:18:10] <exec> 08└─... to Vista. How do I do that?
[20:18:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Knowledge Troll [5948] (Score:2) 02Indestructable and tasty for birds - 06In the Wild, Goldfish Turn From Pet to Pest - 822 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:18:22] <exec> 08└─One spring I bought 100 feeder gold fish from a pet store for a song and a dance then poured the whole thing into a new 4ft x 12ft x 2ft deep decorative pond. Not all of them survived the first winter but about 15 of them did and they grew for another 5 years until a blue heron decided to stop by fo...
[20:18:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:The indestructable goldfish - 06In the Wild, Goldfish Turn From Pet to Pest - 2143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:18:23] <exec> 08└─All right, story time. So when I was a kid, I lived on a ravine that lead to the river. The river was relatively big, so it wouldn't freeze solid, but the little offshoot steams would. One winter while playing rock hockey with my dog and siblings (basically kick a rock across the ice and the dog wou...
[20:18:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:The indestructable goldfish - 06In the Wild, Goldfish Turn From Pet to Pest - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:18:26] <exec> 08└─I only wish I could moderate this, "+1, promote to full article".
[20:18:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The indestructable goldfish - 06In the Wild, Goldfish Turn From Pet to Pest - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:18:28] <exec> 08└─Really? By the second time he said "convinced my mom" it was pretty clear this guy was born because his dad promised her "just the tip of the fish, baby." Did you read the same rambling story about a poor gullible woman with manipulative kids?
[20:18:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:2) 02Re:The indestructable goldfish - 06In the Wild, Goldfish Turn From Pet to Pest - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:18:30] <exec> 08└─Sorry, this is what happens when I go for beers at lunch...
[20:18:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03iWantToKeepAnon [686] (Score:2) 02I don't understand ... - 06In the Wild, Goldfish Turn From Pet to Pest - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:18:32] <exec> 08└─can you give me a soda bottle analogy? Oh wait....
[20:18:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What. - 06In the Wild, Goldfish Turn From Pet to Pest - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:18:34] <exec> 08└─feral goldfish invasion
[20:18:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03SunTzuWarmaster [3971] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Benchmarks - 06TV Manufacturers Get their Own Dieselgate Over Power Consumption Tests - 882 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:18:46] <exec> 08└─I highly recommend this product - https://www.wiredathome.com [wiredathome.com] It cuts the power (...
[20:18:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Benchmarks - 06TV Manufacturers Get their Own Dieselgate Over Power Consumption Tests - 663 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:18:48] <exec> 08└─Nice, but... How many of these do you need, and how much do they draw? My monitor goes to blackscreen-power-saving mode fairly quickly, as soon as it is told to do so by the computer. But it comes alive very quickly if I touch a key. It takes a lot longer to come up from a unplugged event. /Me: reac...
[20:18:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Benchmarks - 06TV Manufacturers Get their Own Dieselgate Over Power Consumption Tests - 1084 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:18:51] <exec> 08└─Or, you know, make the standard match real-world usage enough that gaming the system doesn't matter? In the case of televisions, an annual capture of "typical" usage could be used to set the standard - capture video in 2016 to use for the 2020 testing standards, capture in 2017 for 2021, etc. The 20...
[20:18:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Benchmarks - 06TV Manufacturers Get their Own Dieselgate Over Power Consumption Tests - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:18:53] <exec> 08└─In the case of televisions, an annual capture of "typical" usage could be used to set the standard - capture video in 2016 to use for the 2020 testing standards, capture in 2017 for 2021, etc.
[20:18:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The thing about multimeters and AC power - 06TV Manufacturers Get their Own Dieselgate Over Power Consumption Tests - 684 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:18:56] <exec> 08└─Unless the current and voltage are perfectly in phase (no reactive elements being fed with the AC), multiplying the voltage reading by the current reading[1] WON'T give you the same number as an actual wattmeter that instantaneously does that arithmetic. So, yeah, get a Kill-A-Watt (or whatever) to...
[20:18:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:The thing about multimeters and AC power - 06TV Manufacturers Get their Own Dieselgate Over Power Consumption Tests - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:18:58] <exec> 08└─Wrong crowd to make jokes about equipment and testing... Good info, but I was just mocking the testers for their hack job.
[20:19:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Someone get the DOE a clue! - 06TV Manufacturers Get their Own Dieselgate Over Power Consumption Tests - 796 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:19:00] <exec> 08└─Don't think so. BUT, you didn't read TFA, or apparently, TFS. The TV itself is detecting the test video clip and dropping its power consumption dramatically when it senses it. So it would have fooled even your linked device. I have a power strip chart recorder, and I can tell you that TVs do not dra...
[20:19:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Someone get the DOE a clue! - 06TV Manufacturers Get their Own Dieselgate Over Power Consumption Tests - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:19:03] <exec> 08└─It was a tongue-in-cheek comment, I know it was the test clip that's why I mentioned them "experimenting" by watching TV and eating popcorn. These engineers don't know how to turn a boring task into something better! Hell, they could have set up their own mini-lair with all the TVs making up one wal...
[20:19:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:disable energy savings? - 06TV Manufacturers Get their Own Dieselgate Over Power Consumption Tests - 1031 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:19:07] <exec> 08└─That is the simplistic thinking responsible for this article. Switch on/off some of the advanced processing and power consumption is going to change. You want to take 24 frame movie content and have software/dsp magic make it into 240frames with motion compensation? Power consumption goes up. You wa...
[20:19:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Need to separate the BS from the info in TFA - 06TV Manufacturers Get their Own Dieselgate Over Power Consumption Tests - 916 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:19:09] <exec> 08└─Of course these things use more energy when displaying more demanding content. Is anyone surprised at that? If that isn't part of the testing, then that is an issue with the testing, not the manufacturers. Are the energy saving features independent of changes in screen settings, and what screen sett...
[20:19:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:The important question is . . . - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:19:44] <exec> 08└─Now, praytell indicate to me how you live in the modern world wihtout giving up your personal information to numerous parties via the internet. Or give it up to companies who then store said information in a way that is accessible via the internet. Or I'd be curious to know if there is additional sp...
[20:20:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:ugh - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:20:11] <exec> 08└─Nice. Thanks!
[20:20:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:State-sponsored actors - 06500 Million Yahoo Accounts Hacked - 1443 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:20:14] <exec> 08└─It is stated, like how other companies have also done, because it makes the layperson reading about this think it wasn't stoppable or preventable. The commoner not in IT does not think of how Yahoo had known this, and really, Yahoo didn't come out and state that it was. They suggested it, they belie...
[20:20:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Science... - 06'Raiders of Found Ark' Decipher Ancient Biblical Scroll, Without Unrolling It - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:20:38] <exec> 08└─Science... It's God's gift to religion!
[20:21:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:typical windows cycle - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 727 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:21:22] <exec> 08└─You assume too much Same sentiment I saw over on the other site. Yet the stats said otherwise. As I said, most people were involutarily "upgraded" to Win10 Pretty much the opposite of my experience with people and their computers. Almost every single person I 'support' with windows wanted to move to...
[20:21:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:typical windows cycle - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 1362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:21:27] <exec> 08└─This was my point and I was too tired to find the quotes. Thank you. It is at the 'it sucks' part of the release cycle for them (for the techies). Yet most of the market is moving towards it. They are gaining 1-3% per month. That is the rate people replace their computers. MOST people do not care. T...
[20:21:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:Who? - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:21:56] <exec> 08└─Now you're just pushing my buttons ;P
[20:22:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Titan and Europa, Again - 06NASA Scientists Find 'Impossible' Cloud On Titan -- Again - 1442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:22:12] <exec> 08└─I can tell that you are trying to "serve" a smart ass remark. I do not blame you. Here is why: You have a reflex reaction programmed to you since you first saw the spinning ball Earth model at your school. "1+1=2, and the world is a globe", I believe it was. Furthermore, you have been meticulously p...
[20:22:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Titan and Europa, Again - 06NASA Scientists Find 'Impossible' Cloud On Titan -- Again - 638 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:22:14] <exec> 08└─Since you appear to have performed said experiments and come to this conclusion that we are still and not a globe please kindly enlighten us with this knowledge. And when I say enlighten I mean provide your own hypothesis, the (multiple) tests you completed to test said hypothesis, and the outcome o...
[20:22:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Signature? - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:22:40] <exec> 08└─Hanlon's razor isn't the best tool, as this situation shows. Nowadays there are plenty of malicious actors doing things for their own ends, especially in the computer/software world. Its time to stop apologizing and realize that we are letting things pass that should have us organizing the metaphori...
[20:22:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:entire article is flame bait - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 433 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:22:52] <exec> 08└─Linux has traditionally been the last to get driver support. WinModems come immediately to mind. It is much better these days and linux is usually what many companies test first on as it is cheap and easy to do. So yeah if some OEM decides to do something oddball with their hardware linux usually is...
[20:24:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] (Score:2) 02Re:"huge money making productions"? - 06Star Trek Fan Films May Not be Dead After All - 445 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:24:41] <exec> 08└─"scrounge funds"? https://www.kickstarter.com [kickstarter.com]: $638k https://www.indiegogo.com [indiegogo.com]: $574k. That may not be a triple-A Hollywood blockbuster budget, but that's a lot of money. See e.g. this list of low-budget movies [...
[20:25:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:If you act like a d*** - 06Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:25:39] <exec> 08└─If the announce that they're going to violate your forth amendment rights in advance, it's fine. Using that logic, they could suspend the Constitution rights of everyone living in a particular city, as long as they give advance notice. If you continue to live in said city, you are implicitly consent...
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[21:17:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Seems like a bad decision - 06DDoS Against Brian Krebs Scores a Victory: KrebsOnSecurity is Offline - 466 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:17:49] <exec> 08└─Sure, Akamai was providing him with service "for free". Of course, they did get to say "look, we host Brian Kreb!", which is worth a lot. The attacks got expensive enough that they reconsidered. Fair enough, but it seems like a poor decision. Dropping such a prominent site, because you don't want to...
[21:17:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:About that offer... - 06Microsoft Finally Retires Get Windows 10 - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:17:59] <exec> 08└─[horse head delivery] complete in 5 minutes ... 3 days ... 2 hours ... 5 minutes ... 34 weeks ...
[21:18:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:OK, I'm ready to upgrade - 06Microsoft Finally Retires Get Windows 10 - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:18:02] <exec> 08└─Use a hammer?
[21:18:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:OK, I'm ready to upgrade - 06Microsoft Finally Retires Get Windows 10 - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:18:04] <exec> 08└─Windows Longhorn [winworldpc.com] Beta [thecollectionbook.info]
[21:18:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Halfway there - 06Microsoft Finally Retires Get Windows 10 - 474 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:06] <exec> 08└─Ok, so we don't have to keep a constantly updated list of 'updates to avoid' to prevent infection with Windows 10. We still need to keep a list of the updates that inject the 'telemetry' malware. Have they promised to stop reissuing those with new update numbers? Until then, nothing has really chang...
[21:18:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02OK, but where is the list of safe updates? - 06Microsoft Finally Retires Get Windows 10 - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:18:08] <exec> 08└─OK, but where is the list of safe updates? F'n windows update races my processor so I've had it off for months. Frankly have no interest in spending time researching updates. Is there a reliable source of what updates are absolutely necessary and safe?
[21:18:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Ownership - 06Microsoft Finally Retires Get Windows 10 - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:10] <exec> 08└─Isn't it nice that they removed application from ... what seems to be *their* computers. They're certainly not owned by the users.
[21:18:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:I don't understand ... - 06In the Wild, Goldfish Turn From Pet to Pest - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:18:28] <exec> 08└─> as long as 16 inches and weighing up to four pounds — the size of a two-liter soda bottle Probably one of my favorite "buying stuff in the US is a clusterfuck of units" illustrations.
[21:18:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Benchmarks - 06TV Manufacturers Get their Own Dieselgate Over Power Consumption Tests - 484 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:18:44] <exec> 08└─Intended to reply anon, but forgot to hit the button. Run the numbers yourself. I too was sceptical. It turned out that it had a 6 month payback on its cost when I ran them (holy crap does "power saving" mode use a lot of power). The device I linked is the one that I have (several). I have a 1 seco...
[21:18:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:disable energy savings? - 06TV Manufacturers Get their Own Dieselgate Over Power Consumption Tests - 475 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:18:57] <exec> 08└─The other solution, since companies optimize like crazy these days, is to force them to put on the box the power consumption corresponding to 80% the AC fuse size. The obvious reaction will be to say: wait, then they'll put a smaller fuse! Sure, but when that fuse blows up the first year in half of...
[21:19:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:To each her own - 06Codingame Gamifies Coding Education - 529 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:19:14] <exec> 08└─I'm a big fan of Schaum's outlines, $20 a pop, for review of basic math (precalculus through linear algebra and differential equations). Take one of them somewhere to a quiet place where you can work on them for at least 90 minutes at a stretch, preferably sipping coffee. Bring a college-ruled pad a...
[21:20:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Unintended consequences - 06Salmon Trucking Success Could Open Miles of Historical Spawning Habitat - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:20:37] <exec> 08└─Perhaps a cannon to transport them instead? https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[21:21:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:typical windows cycle - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 814 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:21:12] <exec> 08└─There have been lots of reports of the machine being bricked during the install, sometimes clearly because it didn't meet the minimum requirements for installation. There have been reports of attached equipment with proprietary drivers refusing to work after the install, and on uninstall option avai...
[21:22:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Titan and Europa, Again - 06NASA Scientists Find 'Impossible' Cloud On Titan -- Again - 891 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:22:04] <exec> 08└─You misunderstand: what I am prompting for is to do YOUR OWN experiments. Your OWN. I am not on any mission to prove anything to you. Even if I did link you with my data, what good would it be for? You do not know me any more than the other sources that you mock, and you have not investigated those...
[21:22:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Titan and Europa, Again - 06NASA Scientists Find 'Impossible' Cloud On Titan -- Again - 1478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:22:05] <exec> 08└─Peer review is why I ask. Nowhere in my post did I state I want to debunk or mock. But data that is not peer reviewed and/or proven/verified isn't worth the zero's it's encoded in. Your data and (meticulous) notes on what you did and your findings will provide a base for others to review, perhaps re...
[21:22:17] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Re:Signature? - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 361 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:22:18] <exec> 08└─Personally, I've never seen a good reason for RAID on a laptop. RAID doesn't even make much sense on most desktops. To me, it's an important server feature, but completely unessential for the average user. So, in effect, Lenovo implemented a server feature on a laptop, which just happens to break *n...
[21:22:29] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03MadTinfoilHatter [4635] 02Re:Signature? - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 51 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:22:29] <exec> 08└─I've never seen a good reason for RAID on a laptop.
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[22:18:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Knowledge Troll [5948] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Another Ars article - 06DDoS Against Brian Krebs Scores a Victory: KrebsOnSecurity is Offline - 500 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:18:02] <exec> 08└─This one came out after I submitted the story originally: http://arstechnica.com [arstechnica.com]. Juicy bits: It's hard to imagine a stronger form of censorship than these DDoS attacks because if nobody w...
[22:18:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Go lightweight... - 06DDoS Against Brian Krebs Scores a Victory: KrebsOnSecurity is Offline - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:18:04] <exec> 08└─Maybe he should go for a light solution which is not expected to survive major traffic. Let it vanish every now and then: unreachable, but safe behind the kind of custom-hardware firewall my customers want, until addresses get moved and the attack goes away. Visitors to that kind of website can unde...
[22:18:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Go lightweight... - 06DDoS Against Brian Krebs Scores a Victory: KrebsOnSecurity is Offline - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:18:06] <exec> 08└─Visitors to that kind of website can understand the availability tradeoff, as long as they end up getting the content eventually.
[22:18:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:3, Informative) 02go dark - 06DDoS Against Brian Krebs Scores a Victory: KrebsOnSecurity is Offline - 488 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:18:08] <exec> 08└─put a signed site snapshot on gnunet, freenet, ipfs, magnet link, together with a public key to verify it. New versions signed with the same key to avoid impersonation. Post links in all forums. Watch the DDoS guys raise hands. This internet is made for the powerful. Bigger pipes, that is more money...
[22:18:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:go dark - 06DDoS Against Brian Krebs Scores a Victory: KrebsOnSecurity is Offline - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:18:10] <exec> 08└─slow unreliable, EXCITING
[22:18:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:go dark - 06DDoS Against Brian Krebs Scores a Victory: KrebsOnSecurity is Offline - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:18:13] <exec> 08└─Stable and predictable is boring. The few times I installed Windows98, the "most exciting OS yet!" slide started to take on a whole new meaning. TL;Dr: You don't want your critical infrastructure to be "exciting".
[22:18:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Re:go dark - 06DDoS Against Brian Krebs Scores a Victory: KrebsOnSecurity is Offline - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:18:15] <exec> 08└─You don't want your critical infrastructure to be "exciting".
[22:18:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:go dark - 06DDoS Against Brian Krebs Scores a Victory: KrebsOnSecurity is Offline - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:18:17] <exec> 08└─I think its more about when and where to find stuff and how back in the day hunting down information was more difficult and resources could go on and offline. Everyone prefers 100% uptime, but there is some excitement with ephemeral resources. If impromptu warehouse/forest parties were always set up...
[22:18:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:go dark - 06DDoS Against Brian Krebs Scores a Victory: KrebsOnSecurity is Offline - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:18:19] <exec> 08└─Somebody told me about Zeronet [wikipedia.org], which seems to implement many of the features you outline. A 10MB limit per site apparently.
[22:18:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:go dark - 06DDoS Against Brian Krebs Scores a Victory: KrebsOnSecurity is Offline - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:18:21] <exec> 08└─I want NetZero. In my country it is not free.
[22:18:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:OK, I'm ready to upgrade - 06Microsoft Finally Retires Get Windows 10 - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:18:36] <exec> 08└─... to Vista.
[22:18:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:OK, but where is the list of safe updates? - 06Microsoft Finally Retires Get Windows 10 - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:18:40] <exec> 08└─No trustworthy list. You must research or take your chances. . . But then, even with due diligence, it's still a crap shoot.
[22:18:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Halfway there - 06Microsoft Finally Retires Get Windows 10 - 1486 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:18:42] <exec> 08└─You're way off base, and the game has changed significantly since then. Microsoft got rid of individual updates some time ago. They're all or nothing now. In order to get the update to remove the nag screen for updating to Windows 10, you also got the update to install telemetry into Windows 7, whic...
[22:18:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:Ownership - 06Microsoft Finally Retires Get Windows 10 - 572 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:18:45] <exec> 08└─My brother complains that I am melodramatic when I say that, but it has been the case since they "rebooted the Internet" around the turn of the century. That was when they rebooted WindowsNT servers even if they were set to download, but not install updates. Heck I got yelled at a couple of years la...
[22:18:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Where is the update to remove Telemetry? - 06Microsoft Finally Retires Get Windows 10 - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:18:47] <exec> 08└─I need that one before I can turn the Windows Updates back on.
[22:19:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Gold fish and septic systems - 06In the Wild, Goldfish Turn From Pet to Pest - 409 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:19:07] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure what country Soylentils all hail from but here in Australia our septic system goes to a treatment plant which macerates the sewage into a sludge then lets bacteria eat it until its water in treatment tanks. I doubt a gold fish could survive that and get back into the wild... Maybe it'd...
[22:19:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] 02Re:Along with Disagree, Touché - 06TV Manufacturers Get their Own Dieselgate Over Power Consumption Tests - 23 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:19:16] <exec> 08└─Also, a -1: Gate Suffix
[22:19:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Benchmarks - 06TV Manufacturers Get their Own Dieselgate Over Power Consumption Tests - 542 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:19:23] <exec> 08└─> holy crap does "power saving" mode use a lot of power Glad I finally got rid of the cable box, which didn't even pretend to lower power when "off" (it stopped showing video, but kept the decoder ready). I read somewhere that a cable executive declared that saving power wasn't a feature the America...
[22:19:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Benchmarks - 06TV Manufacturers Get their Own Dieselgate Over Power Consumption Tests - 674 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:19:28] <exec> 08└─I said clips, I'm thinking like 30 seconds of video (per year captured) should be adequate. Yes, the whole problem is in the stickers - I think energy consumption standards make about as much sense as CAFE for cars (little to none). If I compare two TVs, and they're claiming to draw 30W and 45W, but...
[22:19:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Someone get the DOE a clue! - 06TV Manufacturers Get their Own Dieselgate Over Power Consumption Tests - 360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:19:36] <exec> 08└─The obvious logic behind providing the test loop is that you make an apples-to-apples comparison across brands and models. From a testing perspective I think this still makes the most sense. Perhaps they should update their test loops they provide, or use NASA-generated high-def videos or something....
[22:19:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03johaquila [867] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:wooo! - 06Codingame Gamifies Coding Education - 2423 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:19:51] <exec> 08└─Fact is that in practice, when gamification is well done, it works for most people. The question it can replace intrinsic motivation when none exists. A lot of people are intrinsically motivated to learn something but for some reason can't make use of the fact. For example because they have even mor...
[22:21:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheB [1538] (Score:2) 02Re:How old was he when he started driving? - 0617 and Going Blind: The High Stakes of Getting Into a Gene Therapy Trial - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:21:36] <exec> 08└─In Washington and other states there are farm permits with no minimum age. http://www.dol.wa.gov [wa.gov]"There’s no minimum age for a juvenile agricultural permit." Lots of exceptions to laws involving agriculture.
[22:22:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:You have backups, right? - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:22:15] <exec> 08└─Damn, I've been defeated!
[22:23:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:entire article is flame bait - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:23:35] <exec> 08└─Believing in conspiracy? this is WITNESSING it.
[22:23:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02entire parent post is puerile damage control - 06Lenovo's "Signature Edition" Laptops Refuse to Install Linux - 3 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:23:46] <exec> 08└─N/T
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[23:17:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Yes... and - 06Pesticide Companies' Own Secret Tests Showed Their Products Harm Bees - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:17:41] <exec> 08└─What's new here? I thought this was NEWs, not OLDs... Of course these fuckers have these studies and they are damning for them. And of course they don't release them because it hurts their bottom line. Seriously, this is surprising how?
[23:17:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Seems like a bad decision - 06DDoS Against Brian Krebs Scores a Victory: KrebsOnSecurity is Offline - 794 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:17:50] <exec> 08└─No kidding. When you tout your mitigation services like that, actually mitigate an impressively large attack, and then promptly kick the customer off the Internet? That's a corporation you stay away from and don't pay, of which he may not have been, but other corporations ARE. You need somebody that...
[23:18:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Halfway there - 06Microsoft Finally Retires Get Windows 10 - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:18:20] <exec> 08└─Ok, so we don't have to keep a constantly updated list of 'updates to avoid' to prevent infection with Windows 10
[23:18:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Where is the update to remove Telemetry? - 06Microsoft Finally Retires Get Windows 10 - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:18:24] <exec> 08└─Someone wrote a batch file to remove the telemetry from Windows 7. I don't know whether it does what it's supposed to do. https://gist.github.com [github.com]
[23:18:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Chromium_One [4574] (Score:2) 02Win7 without telemetry - 06Microsoft Finally Retires Get Windows 10 - 1306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:18:26] <exec> 08└─For anyone who really wants to make an attempt at an updated Win7 install without extra telemetry or other misfeatures, there are starting points for your research, but ... MS has indeed been re-issuing old patches without updating the KB number, so you can't trust that. Updates to various runtime p...
[23:18:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:The indestructable goldfish - 06In the Wild, Goldfish Turn From Pet to Pest - 1295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:18:44] <exec> 08└─Goldfish are carp. A slightly bred for color (or whatever) strain of fancy carp, but once released in the wild within a couple generations they are pretty much indistinguishable from carp anywhere else. They can live a long time and can eat just about anything. They breed prolifically. They also hav...
[23:19:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:To each her own - 06Codingame Gamifies Coding Education - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:19:36] <exec> 08└─but I think looking at them as a replacement for proper instruction is the wrong way to do it.
[23:20:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Unintended consequences - 06Salmon Trucking Success Could Open Miles of Historical Spawning Habitat - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:20:58] <exec> 08└─I can't help wonder if somehow the fish will end up conditioned to go to a specific location for breeding, and humans will become instrumental for the continued existence of this species.
[23:22:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Foobar Bazbot [37] (Score:2) 02Title Case Strikes Again! - 06Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which? - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:22:09] <exec> 08└─Windows 10 Software Condemned by Which?
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