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[00:07:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Dead end. - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:12] <exec> 08└─"That message isn't as verbose as I remember," the player thinks to himself. >look
[00:07:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dead end. - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:14] <exec> 08└─E/W Dirt road You are on the continuation of a dirt road. There are more trees on both sides of you. The road continues to the east and west. There is a large boulder here. >
[00:07:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Dead end. - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:16] <exec> 08└─>dryhump boulder
[00:07:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dead end. - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:18] <exec> 08└─It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue. >
[00:07:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Finally! - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:21] <exec> 08└─$ emacs [gnu.org][return]
[00:07:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Finally! - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:23] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta_key [wikipedia.org]
[00:07:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Finally! - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:26] <exec> 08└─oops. That was just the file I was editing. Sorry. Love, RMS
[00:07:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:if vim is here... - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:29] <exec> 08└─Vigor is under a BSD-style licence, so I doubt Vigor is based on Vim. https://sourceforge.net [sourceforge.net]
[00:07:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02And now... - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:07:31] <exec> 08└─Vim edges ever closer to becoming isomorphic to Emacs. The scripting inside it may actually be enough to bring Emacs keybindings to Vim, the way Emacs has long had a mode that makes it work just about exactly like vi. The C core of Vim has been larger than Emacs's for some time, and I imagine that t...
[00:07:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:3, Insightful) 02What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:07:33] <exec> 08└─Asynchronous I/O? Jobs? Timers? It's a bloody text editor, not a RTOS. How are these things useful in a text editor? 1) Been using vi since '83 or so, vim since 94 or so 2) RTOS - Real Time Operating System
[00:07:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:35] <exec> 08└─I don't think even Emacs really has those.
[00:07:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03bart9h [767] (Score:2) 02competition is good - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:07:37] <exec> 08└─Even if Neovim never becomes status quo in the vi world, has the competition at least given Vim developers a shot in the arm?
[00:07:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Really? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:07:40] <exec> 08└─There are more comments in a Vim release than various other more interesting stories... Too many hardcore neckbeards here!
[00:07:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Data cap" what is that? - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:56] <exec> 08└─Find a protocol that isn't counted.
[00:07:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:"Data cap" what is that? - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:57] <exec> 08└─If frames are bieng counted, that is at the data-link layer. That will count everything running at the network layer.
[00:08:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Pay for Usage - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 1502 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:08:24] <exec> 08└─Sort of, friend. Here's the real deal: But the greatest Electrical Pioneer of them all was Thomas Edison, who was a brilliant inventor despite the fact that he had little formal education and lived in New Jersey. Edison's first major invention in 1877 was the phonograph, which could soon be found in...
[00:08:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:Cox Cable - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:08:30] <exec> 08└─How to fully disable ONStar system in the electric car GM Chevy Volt April 2014 [youtube.com]
[00:08:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:Yay, a microsoft update! - 06Microsoft Officially Releases Skype 1.7 for Linux - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:08:40] <exec> 08└─The main question is whether it will start downloading and installing Win10 in the background, or just install "telemetry" tailored to your specific distro...
[00:09:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:"a usefull old problem" - 06Brian Krebs DDoSed After Exposing vDos Operators; Israeli Authorities Hit Back With Arrests - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:05] <exec> 08└─Wikipedia has an article about computer-centric warfare, which lists several examples of its use. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] Some famous incidents that are often perceived as "cyberwar": https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] https://en.wikipedia.org
[00:09:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Enough self-applying rope - 06Brian Krebs DDoSed After Exposing vDos Operators; Israeli Authorities Hit Back With Arrests - 495 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:09] <exec> 08└─They are jews, and so are cunning to the core. They setup their system so it will not attack ip addresses inside their country. Quite cunning. Intelligent... not so much. Its almost always the less intelligent who are criminals. These two are definitely of less mental capacity. And on top of that, t...
[00:10:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''the only real [alternative] is Apple'' - 06Android is a Dead End - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:34] <exec> 08└─FTFS: c) Linux Props to opinionated_science, below, for mentioning N900 and A780. We have mentioned here multiple times Ubuntu Touch. [soylentnews.org] . I also like the comment by requerdanos: Android is the worst phone ecosystem and environment, except for all the others. -- OriginalOwner_ [soyl...
[00:11:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Hey could you check out my right foot? - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:11:57] <exec> 08└─From time to time I get quite a severe sharp pain on the sole just behind the big toe. Thanks!
[00:12:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Trademark Usage - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:12:00] <exec> 08└─The word "EpiPen" in the title is incorrect, as EpiPen is the trademark for the $300 epinephrine self injector.
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[01:07:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Downside of Whitelists - 06Elon Musk Says Pending Radar Autopilot Update Would Prevent More Accidents - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:07:02] <exec> 08└─I hope its smart enough not to blanket ignore anything juxtaposed with a whitelisted object. Otherwise they are going to have some really ugly failures sooner or later.
[01:07:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Emacs Makes A Computer Slow - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:07:24] <exec> 08└─Eight Megs And Constantly Swapping
[01:07:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:07:31] <exec> 08└─Asynchronous I/O? Jobs? Timers? It's a bloody text editor, not a RTOS.
[01:07:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 2673 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:07:33] <exec> 08└─LOL. Missing...... I find your subject incredibly amusing. For one, what is always missing from vi, is a natural way to enter and edit text. There is nothing natural about vi, and it deserves to die as painfully as it makes life for all of us. Which is to say on fire at the very bottom of hell. What...
[01:07:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:07:35] <exec> 08└─I don't use vi because it's not my cup of tea. So I use a different editor and you can too. If you don't like vi then don't hate on it just use what you prefer. Choice - if you have one make one.
[01:07:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Really? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:07:39] <exec> 08└─Too many hardcore neckbeards here!
[01:07:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Really? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:07:41] <exec> 08└─I'll let you know that my neck is often lightly bearded and I use linux and do sysadminy stuff. Still, it is disappointing to see more comments on this story then quite a few others that merit discussion. Guess it boils down to who has enough knowledge to even make a comment, and there is probably a...
[01:08:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Data cap" what is that? - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:08:00] <exec> 08└─Thanks for pointing that out, for some reason the last sentence of my post was left out. It was something to the effect of: "I've checked my data usage and the only way their numbers match mine is if every single logged packet sent or received also has the requisite DOCSIS headers and FEC added."
[01:08:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DannyB [5839] 02Data Caps exist for only one reason - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 625 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:08:02] <exec> 08└─It's not because of network congestion. The reason for data caps is to limit how much you can stream. But if there isn't a congestion issue, they why limit streaming? Ta da . . . In order to charge money on the other end to streaming providers to be "Zero Rated". Basically because they have a monopo...
[01:08:04] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Wholesale IP Transit Costs - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 324 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:08:05] <exec> 08└─Bandwidth is ridiculously cheap. I mean crazy cheap. Especially in bulk. And it keeps getting cheaper each year. Here are some recent bulk IP transit costs: [streamingmedia.com] 10Gbps: $0.85 – $1.10 Mbps 20Gbps: $0.75 – $0.95 Mbps 40Gbps: $0.62 – $0.80 Mbps 75Gbps: $0.55 – $0.70 Mbps 100Gb...
[01:08:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Retarded - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 476 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:08:22] <exec> 08└─Respectable troll but horribly and utterly wrong. ISPs face nothing even remotely approaching bandwidth problems unless they're blowing all the revenue on hookers and blow instead of just a respectable amount. My ISP is local, in other words pays the highest possible rates for its bandwidth, and doe...
[01:08:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Pay for Usage - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:08:33] <exec> 08└─WTF kind of ate-up version of Linux are you running that automatically downloads and applies updates instead of simply notifying you they exist?
[01:08:42] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bob_super [1357] 02Yay, a microsoft update! - 06Microsoft Officially Releases Skype 1.7 for Linux - 158 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:08:43] <exec> 08└─The main question is whether it will start downloading and installing Win10 in the background, or just install "telemetry" tailored to your specific distro...
[01:08:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Misleading summary? - 06Microsoft Officially Releases Skype 1.7 for Linux - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:08:51] <exec> 08└─There's an announcement on the company's Web forum, made by someone with "Staff" written next to his/her alias. https://community.skype.com [skype.com]
[01:09:12] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03halcyon1234 [1082] 02Enough self-applying rope - 06Brian Krebs DDoSed After Exposing vDos Operators; Israeli Authorities Hit Back With Arrests - 398 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:09:12] <exec> 08└─I'd like to applaud the fine fellows at vDos for doing an excellent job of being complete morons. Idiot 1: "We're doing an amazing job at bilking people who don't know any better. Who should our next target be?" Idiot 2: "How about one of the best and most high-profile security researches who ha...
[01:09:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02Halon - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 9 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:09:50] <exec> 08└─inert gas
[01:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why underplay the explosion? - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:20] <exec> 08└─130 dB is LOUD. There are some jet engines that are quieter than that!
[01:10:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Demena [5637] (Score:1) 02Re:Apple is no better - 06Android is a Dead End - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:39] <exec> 08└─My iPhone is not jail broken. Nor will it be. I prefer the limited security provided by apple to none at all. Apple places zero restrictions on the apps you can install - provided you have the source code. In that sense apple is open source but closed binary. No one sees the advantage in this?
[01:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Has Communism worked anywhere? - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:51] <exec> 08└─Eventually, you reach an equilibrium and as the poor country becomes richer it fills up with people wanting to buy things
[01:17:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02Visitors to home LAN - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:17:59] <exec> 08└─If you want to run a device on a private network, without connection to the Internet, then you probably have a far smaller set of client machines to worry about.
[01:18:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bradley13 [3053] 02Re:Department of Education - yep - 06Never let a Crisis go to Waste: CDC Using Zika Virus to Expand Authority - 317 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:18:51] <exec> 08└─The Dept. of Education may not call them SWAT teams, but that doesn't mean that they don't have guns. According to the government itself, as of 2017, the Dept. of Education has formed a "student aid enforcement unit" [ed.gov]. This seems to be an example of an enforcement action that they carried ou...
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[02:07:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Genius - 06Canadian Nuclear Reactor Pending Shut Down Threatens Radioisotope Supply - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:07:01] <exec> 08└─Let's spend several hundred million USD of investors' money developing a gadget that depends on better than daily refresh from one particular nuclear power plant in Canada.
[02:07:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dead end. - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:25] <exec> 08└─You dryhump the boulder. You are close to orgasm. >
[02:07:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dead end. - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:27] <exec> 08└─> go back to potatos to get my fucking power wrist
[02:07:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Emacs Makes A Computer Slow - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:35] <exec> 08└─Vexed I'm in Insert Mode
[02:07:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Finally! - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:37] <exec> 08└─:wq![return] unless you don't care about losing your work.
[02:07:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:44] <exec> 08└─Eh, it probably does. Does Emacs have a decent text editor yet?
[02:07:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 1206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:49] <exec> 08└─I DON'T HAVE A FUCKING CHOICE! :P Otherwise, I would agree with you. When I want to alter a crontab I'm forced to use vi. That's not choice, but being dictated to by the vi crowd that at some level you must know vi to use Linux. I do refuse to learn anything beyond x:x as it's not required to learn...
[02:07:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Really? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 445 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:56] <exec> 08└─Could this be Original AC's "basket of deplorables" moment? "Boils" is the key word. Some of us are prone to getting them when we shave our necks, and sometimes health takes priority over fashion. If you know people with different backgrounds, perhaps you can induce them to come here. Other forums,...
[02:08:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Retarded - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:08:39] <exec> 08└─Broadcast vs. Streaming doesn't matter when bandwidth is cheap as dirt and getting ever cheaper, and content delivery networks help bridge the gap between broadcast and streaming. ISPs can even optimize torrents regionally if they wanted to.
[02:08:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pay for Usage - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:08:46] <exec> 08└─Sewage is usually the same as the amount of water you use. The assumption is that all the water coming out of the tap goes down the drain. That is one reason why cities with foundation drains connected to the sewage system, instead of a sump pump or storm system, will often pay residents to disconne...
[02:08:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pay for Usage - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:08:53] <exec> 08└─Both Debian-based and Fedora-based distros have automatic updating built in. They can even be set to automatically reboot in case there is a kernel update or some other piece of software that is being updated. I believe Ubuntu even has "unattended upgrades" turned on by default, due to their target...
[02:08:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 0210GB/mo data cap on home connection... - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:08:57] <exec> 08└─So what say you, Soylentils? Do data caps discriminate against online video providers? Do data caps negatively impact other types of Internet usage?
[02:09:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Enough self-applying rope - 06Brian Krebs DDoSed After Exposing vDos Operators; Israeli Authorities Hit Back With Arrests - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:09:37] <exec> 08└─I'm not really sure that their final DDoS was what led to their arrests. Probably the sudden publicity/exposure sparked by Krebs was to blame. Hell, I can't even attribute that DDoS to them. but they fucked now.
[02:09:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02hmm. - 06Brian Krebs DDoSed After Exposing vDos Operators; Israeli Authorities Hit Back With Arrests - 860 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:09:39] <exec> 08└─too bad this is an english forum, so most of the vocabulary that adequately describes this cannot be used, cos its in russian. mistakes were made... They 1) fucked with someone who had better standing with violence-dispensing people then they had 2) failed to conceal the real site's location through...
[02:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:That sucks - 06HP to Buy Samsung's Printer Business for $1.05 Billion - 746 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:09:54] <exec> 08└─Up until about 1996 HP laserjets were very decent. Then they went cheap and all in on the ink game. At that point carts lasted about 30-60 days and the printer maybe 1-2 years. Before that you could get a good 10 years out of them and the carts would last until the ink was gone. Usually 1-2 reams of...
[02:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Paper? - 06HP to Buy Samsung's Printer Business for $1.05 Billion - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:02] <exec> 08└─Government and financial forms should be exclusively digital because the ratio of bytes to information is minuscule. Contrast that with a book that's good enough to reward multiple close readings. Paper is your best bet, unless you're 26 or under and still have hawk eyes.
[02:11:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Not unique - 06Android is a Dead End - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:11:20] <exec> 08└─The biggest problem I have with Google Play Store is that recently virtually all apps in it require access to my phone's images, camera, and contacts. Even when there is no reason other than data-mining for the requirement in order for the apps to work.
[02:11:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Arik [4543] 02Yeah, but not for those reasons - 06Android is a Dead End - 1535 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:11:23] <exec> 08└─"That there's no way a user can update their system without their cooperation is just not acceptable today." That there is no way to stay reasonably secure without trusting these updates, and the routing that takes you to their source, is just not acceptable today. I started with computers in the ea...
[02:11:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:sailfish...meego...etc.. - 06Android is a Dead End - 338 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:11:30] <exec> 08└─I currently am still using a Nokia N9 that I would really like to replace with a newer equivalent model. But I'm in the United States, currently using T-Mobile. As far as I can tell, there's no option for a Sailfish phone, even if I'm okay with no LTE (just 3G). Am I missing something? I'd be very h...
[02:12:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Seriously - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:12:28] <exec> 08└─Unfortunate, and a side-effect of the "shift responsibility to someone else" culture we've developed.
[02:14:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Has Communism worked anywhere? - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:14:24] <exec> 08└─If offshoring moved capital from rich country to poor country, there would be no reason for businesses to do it.
[02:15:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03EQ [1716] (Score:2) 02Re:''low on fuel'' - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:15:26] <exec> 08└─There were no refuelers in the air near where it was flying, and there was thought to be a threat against Airforce1 so they were circling out over the Gulf of Mexico, a few hours flight time from where most tankers are based (central part of the US). When they landed at Barksdale, they didn't identi...
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[03:07:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:4, Funny) 02Re:Genius - 06Canadian Nuclear Reactor Pending Shut Down Threatens Radioisotope Supply - 457 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:12] <exec> 08└─The molybdenum isotope is what's shipped to hospitals. There, the technetium isomer with the 6-hour half-life (along with "regular" technetium) is eluted out. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] Since the molybdenum isotope has a 66-hour half-life, intercontinental...
[03:07:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03black6host [3827] (Score:2) 02Large and Fluffy - 06Elon Musk Says Pending Radar Autopilot Update Would Prevent More Accidents - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:07:21] <exec> 08└─Guess I'd better not walk in front of one :)
[03:07:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Large and Fluffy - 06Elon Musk Says Pending Radar Autopilot Update Would Prevent More Accidents - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:23] <exec> 08└─Doesn't help if a large and fluffy thing walks in front of you.
[03:07:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02perspective - 06Elon Musk Says Pending Radar Autopilot Update Would Prevent More Accidents - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:07:25] <exec> 08└─there are more than 1,000,000 moose, deer, and elk strikes by cars in North America each year.
[03:07:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:perspective - 06Elon Musk Says Pending Radar Autopilot Update Would Prevent More Accidents - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:27] <exec> 08└─When you have 153 people aboard and Canada moose strikes take out both engines, it's a serious matter.
[03:07:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Finally! - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:55] <exec> 08└─ZZ (no return needed)
[03:08:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02usual fix - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:07] <exec> 08└─apt-get install joe apt-get --purge vim export EDITOR=/usr/bin/joe export VISUAL=/usr/bin/joe Then do "joe ~/.bashrc" to add those last 2 lines to your start-up file. You can put it in /etc/bash.bashrc as well, and anywhere else suitable. These take effect when shells start up, so restart things or...
[03:08:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:08] <exec> 08└─Don't those utilities respect the EDITOR environment variable? I've been using it to force vim all over the place for years. Does it not work to set EDITOR=nano?
[03:08:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 472 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:10] <exec> 08└─Like the AC and jdavidb said: if you don't like vi, set your damn $EDITOR and $VISUAL environment variable already. It's why they exist. Once they're set, things like git commit, crontab -e, etc. will read them and run the desired editor instead of vi. I usually have mine set to a small script that...
[03:08:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:13] <exec> 08└─LOL. Missing...... I find your subject incredibly amusing. For one, what is always missing from vi, is a natural way to enter and edit text. There is nothing natural about vi, and it deserves to die as painfully as it makes life for all of us. Which is to say on fire at the very bottom of hell.
[03:08:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:15] <exec> 08└─Wow. Guess I've been holding some angst in for some 25 years or so. I remember being pissed as hell when Kathleen (yeah, I remember her name, her cat hated me, she dated some dude I thought was a total douche, wouldn't date me) told me about the super sekrit config file they all loved, but didn't r...
[03:08:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:18] <exec> 08└─My big takeaway from Emacs was it was easy to get help on a topic, but nothing told you how to escape help and get back to what you were doing.
[03:08:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:20] <exec> 08└─What I'm waiting for is for crontab and all the other utilities to have nano swapped into it instead of vi. At the moment the only thing in vi worth knowing to me is x:x[enter] to force crontab to apply my changes after removing the whitespace character I left in nano.
[03:08:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:22] <exec> 08└─Do not forget to double the >
[03:08:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Really? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:29] <exec> 08└─I just wish people would feel more comfortable branching out more. I have a somewhat diverse background and would like to hear what other people think about a topic, but I realize not everyone has a comment for everything. But the few responses to some interesting scientific stuff sucks, and seeing...
[03:08:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Appalbarry [66] (Score:2) 02Re:Really? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 544 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:31] <exec> 08└─I'd never call myself a true neckbeard, but a month or so back I found myself in situation where I actually wound up using vi (or vim - honestly don't recall) for the first time, and found it fairly easy to grok, and felt right at home. Maybe it's because I long ago mastered a substantial chunk of W...
[03:08:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02A dozen replies, no answers - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 491 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:08:33] <exec> 08└─I started the "what am I missing" thread, asking why half the new "features" are needed in a text editor. The replies are all yay/nay on vi vs SomeOtherEditor, not a single one is on why I would possibly want asynchronous I/O, timers, or Jobs in a bloody text editor. So, can we forget the Vi sux/rul...
[03:08:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:A dozen replies, no answers - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:36] <exec> 08└─I should clarify before I potentially get roasted. I run cygwin under Win10. Ctags + vim in this environment utterly fail for both Python and Java. As of maybe a year ago, when I last tried to get it to work on Java. Longer for Python.
[03:09:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Retarded - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 369 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:17] <exec> 08└─Metcalfe then ripped a copy of the offensive column from a back issue of the industry publication, tore it into pieces and dropped it into a clear liquid in an electric blender he'd hidden on stage. The columnist then poured the resulting mix into bowl, and tasted the cloudy, pulpy substance with a...
[03:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pay for Usage - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:34] <exec> 08└─Right because Windows is the only thing that ever autoupdates, Linux distros never check for updates...
[03:09:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cox Cable - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:38] <exec> 08└─Cox Communications has been inconsistent with its enforcement of data caps, to the benefit of the customer. Happy downloading.
[03:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:who cares..? - 06Microsoft Officially Releases Skype 1.7 for Linux - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:51] <exec> 08└─Likewise. It was especially nice when Hangouts chat client could be used with straight XMPP. The client was open then. It's closed now, but still better, and with a higher trust level (for me) than anything related to Microsoft.
[03:10:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:That sucks - 06HP to Buy Samsung's Printer Business for $1.05 Billion - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:37] <exec> 08└─That was the case in early 90s, when laser printers cost at least a grand and HP used to make those rectangular tanks. Anything from latter 90s and on, HP logo means crap-quality shit that make Chinese blush.
[03:10:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Ricoh is now the only reliable printers - 06HP to Buy Samsung's Printer Business for $1.05 Billion - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:10:52] <exec> 08└─They used to be at the bottom of the quality pile, now they are a the top. They won a bid against Xerox here at work and they are way more reliable. Xerox still rule the +100ppm market but Ricoh provide better quality and more feature in the medium to large office segment.
[03:13:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Gravis [4596] 02hardly a badge - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 211 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:13:32] <exec> 08└─If you actually look at the damned thing, it's about the size of a smartphone... except it's thicker and likely heavier. But Humanyze says it doesn't record the content of what people say, just how they say it.
[03:13:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fast Fwd to the Future, and .. - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:13:50] <exec> 08└─Why go to the effort of an expensive drone strike when they can just simply trip the explosive chip that everyone will have been forced to implant into their brains?
[03:15:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Re:Love Uncle Big Brother Sam! - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:15:37] <exec> 08└─You could have nice fast trains, like the rest of the world.
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[04:07:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Great a new rapeandscan replacement - 06Terahertz Imaging System Can "Read" Closed Books - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:07:15] <exec> 08└─This could replace the rapiscan machine the TSA use. They could see under the skin, the rule 34 possibility are endless...
[04:07:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Great a new rapeandscan replacement - 06Terahertz Imaging System Can "Read" Closed Books - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:17] <exec> 08└─http://news.mit.edu/2016/speedy-terahertz-based-system-could-detect-explosives-0520 [mit.edu] I was right.
[04:07:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Great a new rapeandscan replacement - 06Terahertz Imaging System Can "Read" Closed Books - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:19] <exec> 08└─Can the machine detect how much pent up sperm is in my testicles and determine whether I jacked off today? [Answer: No, stroking off now.]
[04:07:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02scrolls from Herculaneum - 06Terahertz Imaging System Can "Read" Closed Books - 435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:07:21] <exec> 08└─Reading the charred scrolls from Herculaneum is a similar problem, though more difficult because of their geometry. Maybe this terahertz technique would be applicable there. I'm guessing that terahertz waves are easier to generate than coherent X-rays. http://www.nytimes.com
[04:07:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03driven [6295] (Score:1) 02Why - 06Canadian Nuclear Reactor Pending Shut Down Threatens Radioisotope Supply - 989 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:07:32] <exec> 08└─More information on why they are shutting it down: World's oldest operating reactor, in Chalk River, to close in 2018 [ottawacitizen.com] Quoting: The government weighed several competing factors in its decision to shut down the world’s oldest operating nuclear reactor, including the impact on Can...
[04:07:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Radar doesn't work on stealthy objects - 06Elon Musk Says Pending Radar Autopilot Update Would Prevent More Accidents - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:07:44] <exec> 08└─Expect the Autopilot to run into stealthy objects of all kinds. For example, an F-117 stealth fighter being towed on a low-boy trailer...
[04:08:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dead end. - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:08:03] <exec> 08└─>eat shovel
[04:08:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Techwolf [87] (Score:2) 02Re:Finally! - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:08:10] <exec> 08└─Witch key on the keyboard is the Meta key? I am not using a sun system.
[04:08:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Techwolf [87] (Score:2) 02Re:Finally! - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:08:17] <exec> 08└─I literlly tried that many years ago. All it did was type :q on the screen and nothing else. I ended up discovering how to switch screens and using ps to find and kill the offending program so the job could continue.
[04:08:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 429 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:08:31] <exec> 08└─I forgot to also note that this isn't exactly obscure, arcane *nix knowledge or anything. From crontab's manpage: The -e option is used to edit the current crontab using the editor specified by the VIS‐ UAL or EDITOR environment variables. After you exit from the editor, the modified crontab will...
[04:08:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:08:32] <exec> 08└─ლ) Turn in your geek card.
[04:08:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:08:40] <exec> 08└─Do not forget to double the >
[04:10:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Just like Europe - 06Brian Krebs DDoSed After Exposing vDos Operators; Israeli Authorities Hit Back With Arrests - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:10:30] <exec> 08└─Europe think it has Muslim problem? Nothing compared to Israel's Russian problem.
[04:11:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathElk [4834] (Score:1) 02Two points - 06HP to Buy Samsung's Printer Business for $1.05 Billion - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:11:03] <exec> 08└─Two points I'd like to make; 1) the reliable early HP laserjets were actually built around a Canon engine. Anyone who used to bag on Canon LBP then rave the virtues of HP Laserjet were promptly despatched red faced back to the mail room. 2) Fuck printers, send 'em all to hell.
[04:11:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Apple is no better - 06Android is a Dead End - 715 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:11:58] <exec> 08└─I backed the Jolla tablet - I've got 50% of my money back now, and they're promising to send the other 50% "when they are able." Jolla did make a phone that launched in Europe, but I believe they moved away from a pure Qt on Linux implementation to focus on Android app compatibility. That's the real...
[04:14:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:2) 02Re:Farts, Security, and Ads - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:14:00] <exec> 08└─But I always take my movements in bathroom locations. To do otherwise would risk public indecency charges.
[04:15:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Has Communism worked anywhere? - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:15:21] <exec> 08└─IOW, moving capital from workers to owners. Money paid to workers isn't profit, it's a business expense. Profit is made for the benefit of the owners.
[04:15:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:WTC focus vs the rest - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 886 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:15:58] <exec> 08└─Shortly after 9/11 someone posted a bunch of citations on the green site. I went to most of them, mostly small newspapers, and the evidence was that the plane was lost at altitude with pieces of wreckage on the other side of a mountain, there was also a story about the young air-force pilot dieing f...
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[05:07:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fuck Google - 06Password Alert - Plugin Protects Passwords from Phishing - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:07:07] <exec> 08└─if you enter your Google password into anywhere other than your account sign-in page
[05:07:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fnord666 [652] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Lottery Tickets - 06Terahertz Imaging System Can "Read" Closed Books - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:07:19] <exec> 08└─But can it read through the mask on lottery tickets?
[05:07:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Eristone [4775] (Score:1) 02Re:Lottery Tickets - 06Terahertz Imaging System Can "Read" Closed Books - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:07:20] <exec> 08└─or the down cards when playing blackjack or any other casino game....
[05:07:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Lottery Tickets - 06Terahertz Imaging System Can "Read" Closed Books - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:07:22] <exec> 08└─Can it be implanted in my eyeball?
[05:08:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Finally! - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:08:09] <exec> 08└─Then your keyboard won't have the "◆" key. Look for a key with four diamonds arranged to make a trapezoid. Or that, but with flames trailing from it.
[05:08:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Finally! - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:08:10] <exec> 08└─Nope, the Windows key just brings up my Start screen. Yes, that's right, I said Start SCREEN, because I am using Windows 8. Wooooooo, Microsoft is the Satan!!! Left Alt is my Meta key. Also fuck you.
[05:08:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:08:40] <exec> 08└─Maybe you're just not smart enough to use vim?
[05:08:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:08:41] <exec> 08└─What I'm waiting for is for crontab and all the other utilities to have nano swapped into it instead of vi. At the moment the only thing in vi worth knowing to me is x:x[enter] to force crontab to apply my changes after removing the whitespace character I left in nano.
[05:08:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:08:43] <exec> 08└─What I'm waiting for is for crontab and all the other utilities to have nano swapped into it instead of vi. At the moment the only thing in vi worth knowing to me is x:x[enter] to force crontab to apply my changes after removing the whitespace character I left in nano.
[05:12:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kilo110 [2853] (Score:2) 02Re:Appalbarry is the dead end - 06Android is a Dead End - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:12:06] <exec> 08└─What are your thoughts on blackberry. The OS is virtually EOL but it's quite capable. I've been using iphone since its release and moved to android around 2013. I've switched to a blackberry passport about a month ago and I've been surprisingly happy. The native app selection is admittedly poor but...
[05:13:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:Shocked I say - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:53] <exec> 08└─That's planned for the mark III version
[05:17:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:well, let's see - 06A Guide to Buying Edible Insects - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:17:16] <exec> 08└─I was in China at the time and they still eat some primitive stuff as it was a necessity until recently due to regular famines. As long as the insects are raised for consumption, they're usually safe. Just like how poultry or pork may or may not be safe depending upon how it was raised.
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[06:07:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fuck Google - 06Password Alert - Plugin Protects Passwords from Phishing - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:07:05] <exec> 08└─Every single first post is your inane ranting. Day in and day out. Its obvious your life sucks, but do you have to share it with us?
[06:07:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fuck Google - 06Password Alert - Plugin Protects Passwords from Phishing - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:07:06] <exec> 08└─What! That's not even true, not every first post is mine. Must be all the ranters with sucky lives come here.
[06:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why - 06Canadian Nuclear Reactor Pending Shut Down Threatens Radioisotope Supply - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:07:30] <exec> 08└─not to be confused with the NRX reactor at the same site, which had a melt-down in 1952 [cnn.com] that was rated 5 on the International Nuclear Events Scale
[06:07:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score:2) 02Other options exist.. - 06Canadian Nuclear Reactor Pending Shut Down Threatens Radioisotope Supply - 750 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:07:31] <exec> 08└─Back in 2010 and 2011 they did evaluate the possibility of producing molybdenum-99 in candu-reactors and found that it was very much a viable route. (Four bundles each in six channels would be enough to meet 110% of the world demand - a normal Candu-6 has 360 to 380 channels with 12 bundles in each)...
[06:07:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Beta testing - 06Elon Musk Says Pending Radar Autopilot Update Would Prevent More Accidents - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:07:46] <exec> 08└─I never thought that I'd see the day when a vehicle manufacturer just blindly pushes autopilot software updates into their cars, and the owners become beta testers of the software that decides who lives and who dies.
[06:08:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Emacs Fight Club - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:08:09] <exec> 08└─The only NPC is the bear. Feeding the bear is the only option.
[06:08:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:08:44] <exec> 08└─It doesn't matter anyway because you wrote cat instead of echo.
[06:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03segwonk [3259] (Score:1) 02Re:Seriously - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 462 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:22] <exec> 08└─"Then why the disproportionate advertising....Ahhh - because it is one of the most EASILY MISSED diagnoses." I haven't looked into this very much, but I was under the impression that Mesothelioma is sought after by ambulance chasers because of the disease's link to asbestos. And I also have this dim...
[06:15:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Has Communism worked anywhere? - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:15:00] <exec> 08└─People who have plenty will often give a portion to what they hold to be worthy causes, but when times are hard those donations are the first thing cut from the budget. You can't base a national economy on donations.
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[07:07:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Fighting poverty and lack of education - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 566 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:08] <exec> 08└─All experience shows that anywhere where people have sufficient resources and sufficient education, fertility rates go down automatically. Going for direct population control is like building dams against the overflowing bathtub, instead of closing the valve filling it. He's right, however, that we...
[07:07:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02GOTO Step 99 - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 765 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:10] <exec> 08└─Are there no easier steps that can be taken before assisting in the ethnocide of Western peoples? Say, promoting suburban forestation via tax breaks? Or discouraging the ill-bred from popping out welfare-check babies? Most DINKs I know are worse when it comes to impactful spending, especially if you...
[07:07:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02barren women - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:12] <exec> 08└─Britain and EU Now Run by Barren Women Scotland is being run by the childless Nicola Sturgeon, while down south we have the childless Theresa May, and in the EU, the barren childless Angela Merkel.
[07:07:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:barren women - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:14] <exec> 08└─This is a good thing, right?
[07:07:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:barren women - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:16] <exec> 08└─Golddiggers rule the world! They don't seem to be interested in sending men to die in war, though. Golddiggers would much rather the men live to suffer. Women get all the jobs while men have plenty of free time to feel guilty for being born with penises.
[07:07:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Contraception - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:18] <exec> 08└─How are going to convince god to tell his followers to use reliable artificial contraception?
[07:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Only ten years - 06Password Alert - Plugin Protects Passwords from Phishing - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:30] <exec> 08└─Wow, it's only been ten years since this straightforward, commonsense measure was first suggested. Of course it's only for Google, now we need it for passwords in general, and a good UI on it (from work in about 2007), and site-specific protection (circa 2005). Maybe in another 20 years or so...
[07:07:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03butthurt [6141] 02Re:Genius - 06Canadian Nuclear Reactor Pending Shut Down Threatens Radioisotope Supply - 457 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:50] <exec> 08└─The molybdenum isotope is what's shipped to hospitals. There, the technetium isomer with the 6-hour half-life (along with "regular" technetium) is eluted out. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] Since the molybdenum isotope has a 66-hour half-life, intercontinental...
[07:08:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Beta testing - 06Elon Musk Says Pending Radar Autopilot Update Would Prevent More Accidents - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:08] <exec> 08└─Changelog you can believe in.
[07:08:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Re:Finally! - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:38] <exec> 08└─Only wooses need Meta keys. Real IT guys have this keyboard [bofh.msk.ru].
[07:09:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:08] <exec> 08└─It doesn't matter anyway because you wrote cat instead of echo.
[07:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Pay for Usage - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:10] <exec> 08└─For Windows, Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer used to offer complete control: it would identify the needed patches, which came in the form of executables; one could download them and apply (run) them when one pleased. https://en.wikipedia.org [wi...
[07:10:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:who cares..? - 06Microsoft Officially Releases Skype 1.7 for Linux - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:25] <exec> 08└─Depends. In terms of continued Linux support, I'd certainly trust Google more than Microsoft. In terms of privacy, until recently I would have trusted Microsoft, although lately they've done a lot to destroy that trust. However I definitely wouldn't trust Google on that.
[07:11:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Re:Halon - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:11:54] <exec> 08└─This is Romania though, here's what really happened: 1. Drill occurs, data centre is evacuated. 2. After awhile, staff re-enter. Find back door onto loading dock open and tumbleweeds blowing through where the server racks used to be. 3. Lots of new servers suddenly turn up at Piața Aurora-Flavia ma...
[07:12:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score:2) 02Re:Appalbarry is the dead end - 06Android is a Dead End - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:12:38] <exec> 08└─I've never used a Blackberry. It seemed to be the padded-room with constant camera surveillance option back when it was popular though. My understanding was that they've gone Android these days.
[07:12:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Yeah, but not for those reasons - 06Android is a Dead End - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:12:48] <exec> 08└─That is true for every discipline that appeals to mass.
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[08:07:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Wash dishes? - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:07:07] <exec> 08└─Shit like this is why I refuse to repair computers.
[08:07:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02follow your leader and quit your job - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 528 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:07:08] <exec> 08└─In January 1984 [RMS] quit [his] job at MIT and began writing GNU software. Leaving MIT was necessary so that MIT would not be able to interfere with distributing GNU as free software. If [RMS] had remained on the staff, MIT could have claimed to own the work, and could have imposed their own distri...
[08:07:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02the black swan will shatter your world - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 1736 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:17] <exec> 08└─There is some aspect of evolution that you are not accepting. Prior to birth control, sex drive was effectively a proxy for desiring offspring. It was selected for. There was no advantage for those who specifically desired offspring. This has changed. Evolution is not necessarily a slow process. It'...
[08:07:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fighting poverty and lack of education - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 628 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:20] <exec> 08└─That's brilliant! Except for it plays into the Idiocracy Theorem where those that care the most about what type of world they are living for the kids probably won't have them. Guess what that does to total consumption for those that do (disclaimer- I work with people who average 4 kids between them)...
[08:07:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:GOTO Step 99 - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:23] <exec> 08└─Most DINKs I know are worse when it comes to impactful spending In the present, sure. Children, however, usually outlive their parents, and may have children of their own, etc. DINKs stop polluting when they die.
[08:07:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:barren women - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:28] <exec> 08└─Grok This: I am the son of a barren woman. Ok, better than being the horn of a hare, or the teeth of a chicken. We don't always get to choose what paradox we will be. Some are Buzzards, disgusting offal consuming scavengers, who claim to be Mighty. I say, go with it.
[08:07:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Contraception - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:31] <exec> 08└─No need as long as there are no jobs for men. No woman wants to fuck a poor man.
[08:07:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Don't worry, nature is going to do it for us - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:07:33] <exec> 08└─Breeding faster than the food supply tends to fix itself.
[08:07:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02"What's a bio-ethicist?" - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 683 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:07:35] <exec> 08└─Literally every person who knows, or who would ever know what a bio-ethicist is absolutely needs to continue having children - maybe more than they were considering. What this utter fool doesn't consider is that the people who are having the most children without any regard to the health, education,...
[08:07:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"What's a bio-ethicist?" - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:37] <exec> 08└─Maybe he is dog-whistling to the New World Order to tell them to speed up population eradication procedures.
[08:07:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Training users to ignore warnings - 06Password Alert - Plugin Protects Passwords from Phishing - 357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:07:48] <exec> 08└─Most people use the same password everywhere. This is going to train them to ignore yet another warning. To use different passwords on every web site, you need a password manager. First of all, these are not exactly grandma-friendly, and second, a password manager is a form of writing down your pass...
[08:07:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Google Has Rights! - 06Password Alert - Plugin Protects Passwords from Phishing - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:07:49] <exec> 08└─They want to make sure that they are the ones spying on you, not somebody else. That's just selfish! if you're going to create a google account, why not spread the love around so others can spy on what you do too? Sharing is caring!
[08:08:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:Great a new rapeandscan replacement - 06Terahertz Imaging System Can "Read" Closed Books - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:08:00] <exec> 08└─The frequency is about right [wikipedia.org]: they may actually be using the camera from a Millimeter wave scanner [wikipedia.org]. (I looked it up because I was too tired to do the math).
[08:08:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:Lottery Tickets - 06Terahertz Imaging System Can "Read" Closed Books - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:08:05] <exec> 08└─Or "secure" envelopes with banking information?
[08:09:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Emacs Makes A Computer Slow - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:05] <exec> 08└─Eight Megs And Constantly Swapping
[08:09:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:28] <exec> 08└─I don't remember how we developed software prior to our sysadmin putting Unix on our PDP-11.
[08:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:34] <exec> 08└─What I'm waiting for is for crontab and all the other utilities to have nano swapped into it instead of vi. At the moment the only thing in vi worth knowing to me is x:x[enter] to force crontab to apply my changes after removing the whitespace character I left in nano.
[08:11:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Re:That sucks - 06HP to Buy Samsung's Printer Business for $1.05 Billion - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:37] <exec> 08└─Actually, I didn't know Samsung even had printers.
[08:11:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Re:Paper? - 06HP to Buy Samsung's Printer Business for $1.05 Billion - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:48] <exec> 08└─Do we really need paper? [...], toilets, [...]... every freaking thing has a screen now.
[08:11:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03TGV [2838] (Score:3, Funny) 02$1.05B for the printer division - 06HP to Buy Samsung's Printer Business for $1.05 Billion - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:11:55] <exec> 08└─And for a measly $3B more, you can also get the cartridge division.
[08:13:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Capt. Obvious [6089] (Score:2) 02Re:Appalbarry is the dead end - 06Android is a Dead End - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:03] <exec> 08└─If I wanted to play with a toy, sure. But I don't wanna do that much work to remove the spyware. It's easier just to get a flip phone. No Google Spyware to remove.
[08:13:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Capt. Obvious [6089] (Score:2) 02Re:Not unique - 06Android is a Dead End - 780 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:11] <exec> 08└─Apple's lighting connector is objectively better than mictoUSB on all dimensions expext ubiquity/openness. On all devices I've seen (in my possession or other people's/company's) microUSB has a short halflife followed by an interminable amount of "hold it perfectly" time. The 30-pin and lightning co...
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[09:07:11] <exec> 08└─This is why we need basic income, so we call all ork as dish washers and moon light as super elite coders for freedom! Except dish washing machines took our dish washing jobs. Oh well. Still got the basic income, right?! Uh, wait. Has the New World Economy not happened yet? What year is this?
[09:07:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:follow your leader and quit your job - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:07:14] <exec> 08└─That might have been the only option back then, but today there are companies that explicitly develop GPLed code, so developing GPLed code and being employed are not mutually exclusive. The company might still own the copyright on the code you wrote, but as long as the company releases it under the...
[09:07:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:follow your leader and quit your job - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:07:16] <exec> 08└─On a less drastic side, you could always try to stay anonymous with any GPL coding you do. Make sure of course that it has absolutely nothing to do with your day job anyway.
[09:07:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:follow your leader and quit your job - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:07:18] <exec> 08└─Yes but anonymity in this case would mean whenever the submitter wants real credit for GPL work, it will involve a nod and a wink to say, that anonymous work was mine, trust me.
[09:07:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mykl [1112] (Score:2) 02Timing of information - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 642 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:07:20] <exec> 08└─Were these conditions revealed only after you signed the contract? If so, they are about as enforceable as an EULA. Are they referenced directly in the employment contract itself? Mine has some of those in there, but nothing too big. My guess is that your employer would be unable to take ownership o...
[09:07:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Yes, this is common - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 799 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:07:22] <exec> 08└─This seems to be common practice for employers (especially large, lawyer-filled places) to try on. I've read in the past that they don't have much chance to stand up in court, but if you go to court you lose either way. What I've done in the past when presented with these is simply tell them that th...
[09:07:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:3, Funny) 02cuts both ways - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:07:25] <exec> 08└─Write the most repugnant imaginable political screed, dutifully apply the corporate copyright and leak it :-) But only after you line up a new job.
[09:07:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Dragons: Reign of Fire: - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:07:27] <exec> 08└─My only advice is this: Quinn: What do we do when we're awake? Children: Keep both eyes on the sky. Quinn: What do we do when we sleep? Children: Keep one eye on the sky. Quinn: What do we do when they ask us to sign a NDA or Non-compete agreement? Children: Run hard, dig deep, go for shelter, and n...
[09:07:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dragons: Reign of Fire: - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:07:29] <exec> 08└─Hitting the DVDs last night?
[09:07:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re-write your contract - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 548 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:07:31] <exec> 08└─Take the contract clauses that state that "any work you do during the term of your employment belongs to company" and strike it out, replacing it with "any work you do during the term of your employment on company time and/or company equipment belongs to company". Send the modified contract to their...
[09:07:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnampff [5658] (Score:2) 02Not sure this legally holds - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 1163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:07:33] <exec> 08└─"It treats any work of authorship during my employment as their property, even if done on my own time and equipment." I highly doubt that the second part has any legal teeth if it is actually worded to say that. Maybe you read this wrong and it just means the things you do while you are on the job o...
[09:07:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02ngeotiable - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 1546 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:07:35] <exec> 08└─Distasteful contracts with an employer were the subject of another recent discussion. [soylentnews.org] If you haven't signed the "agreements" then you can, in my nonprofessional opinion, indicate your lack of assent to them by resigning promptly. Less drastically, you may attempt to negotiate the t...
[09:07:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:the black swan will shatter your world - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 1110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:07:46] <exec> 08└─Your view is quite debatable. First off, evolution does not work as you describe it. It is well understood that higher-order selection is happening, i.e., not individuals but higher units like group, even societies, are subjected to selection. This means that within a group it can be quite detriment...
[09:07:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Contraception - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:07:57] <exec> 08└─I think between them, Trumppence and that nice Mr Putin are going to sort out the over-population problem next year to the tune of about 5 billion.
[09:08:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Reading your dead-tree mail - 06Terahertz Imaging System Can "Read" Closed Books - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:08:27] <exec> 08└─Or "secure" envelopes
[09:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:09:52] <exec> 08└─My oldest home machine is running Debian Stable from about 5 years back, and I find it hard to stay *in* the emacs main help page (C-h C-h)!?! I press anything apart from one of the menu letters it offers me, and the help window disappears instantly. I do remember exiting being a problem back in 198...
[09:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score:2) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 476 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:09:53] <exec> 08└─Your experience seconded. In principle, I am agnostic to emacs/vi. However, I do use vi because, first, like for yourself it took me half an hour to read the help just to safe a file and exist emacs several times and vi was easier for me at the time, and second, vi seems to be more broadly installed...
[09:11:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pay for Usage - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 784 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:11:03] <exec> 08└─Because that's not where profits are. Marketing 101 is to sell people shit at price they are capable of paying instead of what it costs to produce plus a small markup. This differentiation is often accomplished by adding layers of unnecessary complexity and pretending the service is of higher level...
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[10:07:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score:2) 02Re:follow your leader and quit your job - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 504 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:07:23] <exec> 08└─Exactly - work-for-hire clauses are not exactly new. They are also the reason for the following FSF position (my emphasis): In order to make sure that all of our copyrights can meet the recordkeeping and other requirements of registration, and in order to be able to enforce the GPL most effectively...
[10:07:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Dragons: Reign of Fire: - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 1295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:07:30] <exec> 08└─You mean it's not on Netflix? Of course! The bastards don't want you thinking for yourself, or running about with explosive tipped crossbow bolts! But then, neither do I! I just want everyone to realize that as long is there is one male corporation with these policies, they will breed, and only one...
[10:07:41] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] 02Fighting poverty and lack of education - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 566 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:07:41] <exec> 08└─All experience shows that anywhere where people have sufficient resources and sufficient education, fertility rates go down automatically. Going for direct population control is like building dams against the overflowing bathtub, instead of closing the valve filling it. He's right, however, that we...
[10:07:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the black swan will shatter your world - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 2632 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:07:44] <exec> 08└─Higher-order selection won't save your type. You need to be really careful about ideas like "detrimental", because living in squalor is still an evolutionary win. For higher-order selection to help, your group needs to invade some other group (let that group not breed, or just genocide them away) an...
[10:07:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score:2) 02Consider having no more children - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:07:59] <exec> 08└─than you can handle to help them with their education, so they at least know the difference between less and fewer...
[10:08:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:Lottery Tickets - 06Terahertz Imaging System Can "Read" Closed Books - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:08:26] <exec> 08└─or the down cards when playing blackjack or any other casino game....
[10:08:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:Lottery Tickets - 06Terahertz Imaging System Can "Read" Closed Books - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:08:31] <exec> 08└─yes! [soylentnews.org]
[10:08:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:Lottery Tickets - 06Terahertz Imaging System Can "Read" Closed Books - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:08:33] <exec> 08└─no. [soylentnews.org]
[10:08:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02not as useful as you think - 06Terahertz Imaging System Can "Read" Closed Books - 543 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:08:35] <exec> 08└─The system exploits the fact that trapped between the pages of a book are tiny air pockets only about 20 micrometers deep. The difference in refractive index — the degree to which they bend light — between the air and the paper means that the boundary between the two will reflect terahertz radia...
[10:10:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Retarded - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 1687 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:55] <exec> 08└─Cheap huh. Go price a gigabit link into a major peer with full commercial grade SLA, no use limits and and a contract that includes the ability to resale. Now do the math. Take a small town, figure up how many cable modem customers you are going to sign up, these days 50mbps seems to be entry level....
[10:13:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Apple is no better - 06Android is a Dead End - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:13:32] <exec> 08└─Well, this is a recent'ish development. It used to be that it's $99 to load your own software to your own device.
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[11:07:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The Spice Must Flow! - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:07:17] <exec> 08└─$$$$
[11:07:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Reparations from Obama - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:07:18] <exec> 08└─Sue that dang Obama for winning the elections! Make his ass pay reparations to everyone who didn't vote for him.
[11:07:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Obvious - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:07:21] <exec> 08└─Just imagine the cost only if the hundreds of thousands of Iraqui victims of the US sponsored invasions were given such a clear precedent to sue the US government... and then all the other millions of victims around the world.
[11:07:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02the plot thickens... - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 709 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:07:23] <exec> 08└─so, in case you don't know, the whole deal was a cynical ploy by kongresskritters to throw a hot potato back in obomber's lap and make it HIS problem, not theirs... (in fact, that pretty much sums up the whole 'game' played in washingtoon) the kongresskritters look like they really care and are doin...
[11:07:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:the plot thickens... - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:07:25] <exec> 08└─families geez, i just couldn't let it go... *sigh*
[11:07:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the plot thickens... - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:07:27] <exec> 08└─KBO dood! Keep Buggering On
[11:07:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Chromium_One [4574] (Score:2) 02i has a sad. - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 1603 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:07:29] <exec> 08└─Because despite 15 of the 19 attackers being Saudi nationals[1], the Saudi Arabian government having close ties to Al Qaeda[2], providing funding and other assistance to Al Qaeda[3], and working to protect Al Qaeda[4], the Saudis are still our allies[5]. There will be no censure or any other action...
[11:07:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Chromium_One [4574] (Score:2) 02Darnit, we need an edit window. 5-10 minutes? - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:07:31] <exec> 08└─[...] wrong target[9]. [9] https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[11:07:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Understandable, but... - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 1497 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:07:33] <exec> 08└─It makes little sense to allow American to sue a foreign government in US courts. There is this wee little problem of jurisdiction. That said, the US government should have taken action against Saudia Arabia 15 years ago. There was pretty strong evidence that either the Saudi government, or at least...
[11:07:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03coolgopher [1157] 02Yes, this is common - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 799 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:07:49] <exec> 08└─This seems to be common practice for employers (especially large, lawyer-filled places) to try on. I've read in the past that they don't have much chance to stand up in court, but if you go to court you lose either way. What I've done in the past when presented with these is simply tell them that th...
[11:07:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dragons: Reign of Fire: - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:07:54] <exec> 08└─You mean it's not on Netflix?
[11:07:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dragons: Reign of Fire: - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:07:56] <exec> 08└─I discovered a cure for the common cold, a faster-than-light drive, and a solution to the Fermi paradox. Since the University would claim ownership of all these, I have never published.
[11:08:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score:2) 02Contribution without contamination - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:08:01] <exec> 08└─You can always do as the FSF does (and has done for decades - this is not a new problem) and contribute with a copyright assignment or a disclaimer or copyright interest, from your employer. If it's an FSF project you would already be doing this - https://www.gnu.org [gnu...
[11:08:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:3, Informative) 02Renegotiation - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:08:03] <exec> 08└─You do know contracts aren't set in stone, yes? My first bit of consulting work carried all that jazz except the non-poaching (which is often thrown out by the courts btw). I went to management and got an amendment tacked on to my contract saying code that I wrote on my time with no resemblance or r...
[11:08:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the black swan will shatter your world - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 730 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:08:16] <exec> 08└─There's an important aspect of evolution that you are neglecting. Evolution is ultimately not about the species, but about spreading information. In case of humans, the information that gets passed on is not just in the genes, but also in the memes. Memes can easily supersede genes (our behaviour is...
[11:08:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fighting poverty and lack of education - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:08:18] <exec> 08└─Idiocracy is not a theorem, it's a movie. Hollywood. Fiction. Not real. The total number of single mothers continues to rise
[11:08:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:barren women - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:08:26] <exec> 08└─Is the answer... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . stepchild or foster child?
[11:08:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"What's a bio-ethicist?" - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:08:34] <exec> 08└─Yeah, "bio" is placed before every profession these days (mostly generating in some BS profession). This here, has hardly to do anything with "bio" (I'm a biologist). The problem is also not from biological nature, but a social one.
[11:08:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Master - 06Password Alert - Plugin Protects Passwords from Phishing - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:08:48] <exec> 08└─So, will it log all those yummy passwords to an obscure remote server for our own good?
[11:09:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03bd [2773] (Score:2) 02Re:not as useful as you think - 06Terahertz Imaging System Can "Read" Closed Books - 862 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:09:10] <exec> 08└─No, you are measuring the difference of thickness of the pages. The air just needs to be there so that you get individual reflections from the pages. Otherwise, what you would measure would be the (not very useful) overall thickness of the book. It could also work if pages are fixed together with gl...
[11:09:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Petten and Mol - 06Canadian Nuclear Reactor Pending Shut Down Threatens Radioisotope Supply - 1489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:09:22] <exec> 08└─(You may know by now that I'm biased and not in favour of nuclear power plants for energy production) AFAIK there are two reactors in Europe used for production of radiochemicals for medicine: The one in Mol in Belgium: BR2 [wikipedia.org]. Built between 1956 and 1964. Not much information about it....
[11:11:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pay for Usage - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:11:47] <exec> 08└─If the price/MB were within magnitude of the marginal cost to the ISP for bringing you that extra megabyte of data, it wouldn't matter. The autoupdater would have to max out your connection 24/7 to make significant dent in your bill.
[11:12:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just like Europe - 06Brian Krebs DDoSed After Exposing vDos Operators; Israeli Authorities Hit Back With Arrests - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:12:34] <exec> 08└─I don't see many Israeli nightclubs being blown up by Russians.
[11:12:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just like Europe - 06Brian Krebs DDoSed After Exposing vDos Operators; Israeli Authorities Hit Back With Arrests - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:12:36] <exec> 08└─They get the Palestinians to do it for them.
[11:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Demena [5637] (Score:1) 02Re:Apple is no better - 06Android is a Dead End - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:13] <exec> 08└─No, I have had the development kit since the S3 and they have never asked a cent for it. So why you are claiming it had a 99$ cost attached to it I hate no idea. Same situation for my friends. All it requires is that you register (which means give them your name).
[11:14:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Apple is no better - 06Android is a Dead End - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:14] <exec> 08└─What is this Apple S3 you are talking about? Context, context, context, man.
[11:14:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Demena [5637] (Score:1) 02Re:Apple is no better - 06Android is a Dead End - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:17] <exec> 08└─An Apple iPhone S3 which I bought partially to write an app on. I was beaten to a (free market). I never finished the App and the phone is now on a shelf.
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[12:07:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02antiviral sex reassignment - 06Endogenous Viral-Derived Sequences Contribute to Male Muscle Mass - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:07:18] <exec> 08└─Could the process be reversed to transform men into the better sex: women. We all know men have no place in modern society and everyone would be much happier if men were eliminated. Instead of killing men or jailing men, perhaps the most humane solution would be to make everyone into women. Then all...
[12:07:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:antiviral sex reassignment - 06Endogenous Viral-Derived Sequences Contribute to Male Muscle Mass - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:07:19] <exec> 08└─It'd be fun while it lasted. I'd have part of a week to play with my new boobs before they were all like "Fuck this! Now we have to do all the shitty and dangerous jobs, work stupid-long hours, and probably die early from stress."
[12:07:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Obvious - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 536 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:07:30] <exec> 08└─There would be no venue and standing to sue would be incredibly hard to prove due to the complete lack of functioning government in that region. The lesson is that if you attack a country, make sure you thoroughly destroy it so there is no legal system in place and world governments and internationa...
[12:07:34] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Chromium_One [4574] 02i has a sad. - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 1603 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:07:35] <exec> 08└─Because despite 15 of the 19 attackers being Saudi nationals[1], the Saudi Arabian government having close ties to Al Qaeda[2], providing funding and other assistance to Al Qaeda[3], and working to protect Al Qaeda[4], the Saudis are still our allies[5]. There will be no censure or any other action...
[12:07:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:Understandable, but... - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:07:39] <exec> 08└─If US were to open the door to individuals suing governments, it might just be the US government that would be sued, by the millions of people whose lives it destroyed in misdirected vengeance.
[12:07:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yes, this is common - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:07:56] <exec> 08└─If they present this as electronically sign-able only, then you cannot cross out anything.
[12:07:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yes, this is common - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:07:57] <exec> 08└─Print it and send them a copy? Too many people forget that must of these "dictates" are supposed to be agreements between 2 parties. Its quite possible the other party will not want to have you when you do not agree to their terms, but people need to get away from the idea that there is no choice.
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[13:07:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02gumroad? - 06Ask SN: Best Online Store for a Command-Line Tool - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:07:13] <exec> 08└─If your tool doesn't fit any particular category, gumroad's flexibility may be ok. You have to externally promote it yourself though. I'm selling engineered audio samples there myself. Cheers.
[13:07:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:gumroad? - 06Ask SN: Best Online Store for a Command-Line Tool - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:07:15] <exec> 08└─https://gumroad.com/ [gumroad.com] https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] https://techcrunch.com [techcrunch.com]
[13:07:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bradley13 [3053] 02Understandable, but... - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 1497 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:07:39] <exec> 08└─It makes little sense to allow American to sue a foreign government in US courts. There is this wee little problem of jurisdiction. That said, the US government should have taken action against Saudia Arabia 15 years ago. There was pretty strong evidence that either the Saudi government, or at least...
[13:07:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bobs [1462] (Score:2) 02Re:Understandable, but... - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:07:42] <exec> 08└─They do specifically state it's for state sponsored terrorism, so all those perfectly legal wars the US has waged directly are presumably exempt.
[13:07:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:Understandable, but.. - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 1580 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:07:44] <exec> 08└─Well the US has a very long interest with Guantanamo Bay; its not like this base just opened up. Guantanamo has always been an American colony, dating back to English colonial rule. George Washingtons older half brother was one of the first commanders of the colony for fucks sake. There has been a c...
[13:08:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02they're testing you - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 1163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:08:03] <exec> 08└─Yes, onerous, unconsciable agreements are common. It's like they want to know how scared, desperate, and wimpy you are, and how hard they can swing the whips. Also how much of a noob you are, and whether you even read the agreement or just blindly signed it in naive trust that it couldn't be too bad...
[13:08:04] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03sjames [2882] 02cuts both ways - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 147 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:08:04] <exec> 08└─Write the most repugnant imaginable political screed, dutifully apply the corporate copyright and leak it :-) But only after you line up a new job.
[13:08:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fighting poverty and lack of education - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:08:29] <exec> 08└─Idiocracy may only be a film, but it is a fine example of life imitating art.
[13:08:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Fighting poverty and lack of education - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:08:31] <exec> 08└─Going for direct population control is like building dams against the overflowing bathtub, instead of closing the valve filling it.
[13:08:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:GOTO Step 99 - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 630 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:08:35] <exec> 08└─yes -- a dink's damage may be great, but so is nearly everyone elses. Should others have kids, their kids (whether they become dinks or have kids of their own) contribute to the problem. Making more problems that contribute to the problem seems more damaging than the dink's described impactful spend...
[13:08:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't worry, nature is going to do it for us - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:08:46] <exec> 08└─Slowly and painfully.
[13:08:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Consider having no more children - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:08:52] <exec> 08└─Well sometimes you can have 3.8874 children, so 3.6652 is less right?
[13:09:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Terahertz Imaging System Can "Read" Closed Books - 06Terahertz Imaging System Can "Read" Closed Books - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:09:28] <exec> 08└─Hmm, perhaps now I will be able to understand my wife...
[13:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03schad [2398] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:what about things that aren't large and dense? - 06Elon Musk Says Pending Radar Autopilot Update Would Prevent More Accidents - 932 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:09:54] <exec> 08└─Metal is usually very reflective to radar, and motorcycles have a lot of metal in them. It shouldn't be a problem. Most bicycles also have plenty of metal and so should be easy to detect. However, fancy lightweight bikes made of high-tech composites might not. One solution, and I am not making this...
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[14:07:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02depends - 06Ask SN: Best Online Store for a Command-Line Tool - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:07:26] <exec> 08└─What does your tool actually do?
[14:07:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Doom, doom, doom & gloom - 06Ask SN: Best Online Store for a Command-Line Tool - 1506 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:07:28] <exec> 08└─Nobody pays for software these days. Yeah, that's hyperbole, but I only see two cases where significant numbers of people pay for off-the-shelf software: Individuals pay for games, and businesses pay for software essential to their business (e.g. CAD tools for engineering firms, accounting software...
[14:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:Doom, doom, doom & gloom - 06Ask SN: Best Online Store for a Command-Line Tool - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:30] <exec> 08└─businesses pay for software essential to their business
[14:07:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:3, Informative) 02Give up - 06Ask SN: Best Online Store for a Command-Line Tool - 1299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:07:32] <exec> 08└─Sorry to be negative, but unless your tool does something truly spectacular, then I doubt that it will be worth the bother for most people. People who live in the command line want to install a program once, from their standard repos, and have it automatically updated. If I can't install it from hom...
[14:07:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02go Alpha in a week - 06Ask SN: Best Online Store for a Command-Line Tool - 1739 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:07:34] <exec> 08└─What command line tool could be created in 2016 that has any value? It must be some highly specialized niche product. I would suggest looking where products in that niche are distributed. If your niche is comfortable with command-line tools (software developers, scientists, etc) do they buy command-...
[14:07:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:go Alpha in a week - 06Ask SN: Best Online Store for a Command-Line Tool - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:36] <exec> 08└─What command line tool could be created in 2016 that has any value?
[14:07:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Shopify - 06Ask SN: Best Online Store for a Command-Line Tool - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:07:39] <exec> 08└─Though I haven't use it myself, I hear great things about Shopify.
[14:07:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02many? - 06Ask SN: Best Online Store for a Command-Line Tool - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:07:41] <exec> 08└─There are many services that provide online stores; which would be the best for me? I expect to provide installers for .deb and .rpm Linuxes (Linuces?), *BSD, Mac OS X and Windows.
[14:07:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Re:antiviral sex reassignment - 06Endogenous Viral-Derived Sequences Contribute to Male Muscle Mass - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:51] <exec> 08└─No problem, we'll just modify that DNA so it will work on women too.
[14:08:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Obvious - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:08:03] <exec> 08└─IIRC, You have to get permission from the U.S. govt to sue the U.S. govt. Not sure if the same applies to Saudi Terarabia.
[14:08:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Obvious - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:08:05] <exec> 08└─I believe the idea here is that the court would seize assets in the United States to pay the victims. No permission needed from the Saudis. https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org] Link will be added to the summary.
[14:08:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Obvious - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:08:07] <exec> 08└─Yeah, and then what stops that every other country feel legitimated to seize any US owned assets to pay their victims?
[14:08:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Obvious - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:08:09] <exec> 08└─What are they waiting for, this bill to pass? If they haven't done it already, they're not pissed off enough to ignore the consequences of angering one of the world's superpowers and likely an important trade partner.
[14:08:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Re:Understandable, but.. - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 558 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:08:20] <exec> 08└─I'd mod you up "informative" if I had points left. I was referring, of course, specifically to the practice of using Guantanamo to imprison people for indefinite periods of time, without legal recourse. It doesn't matter how big or how small Guantanamo is. Detaining people indefinitely, without lega...
[14:08:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:Understandable, but... - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:08:22] <exec> 08└─Jurisdiction has long since been nullified by "universal jurisdiction" and the general World Police powers of America.
[14:08:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Understandable, but... - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:08:24] <exec> 08└─Kim Dotcom agrees
[14:08:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wash dishes? - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:08:35] <exec> 08└─Don't worry. There are always job openings for cannon fodder.
[14:08:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Wash dishes? - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 815 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:08:37] <exec> 08└─To elaborate on your remark: > There are always job openings for cannon fodder. There is an underlying reason for that. Making the cannons (and other high tech toys) supports a gigantic infrastructure of hugely profitable corporations in the military industrial complex. It's tentacles reach into con...
[14:08:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Timing of information - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:08:45] <exec> 08└─There was a short paragraph saying I would have to sign their agreement, but it was not provided beforehand. I even asked for it via text and did not get it, with the recruiter saying non-workplace stuff is unaffected. My commits are in the tens, where the real devs do that without breaking a sweat.
[14:08:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:cuts both ways - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:08:52] <exec> 08└─Just in case it only applies to software, put a 10 PRINT " at the start and a " /n 20 GOTO 10 at the end.
[14:09:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Not sure this legally holds - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:01] <exec> 08└─One thing to remember is that the companies that like to make these kinds of agreements often don't have a concept of "employee's own time". As in, they believe that if you are on salary, they own your labor 24x7x365, and will act accordingly. One such employer that I've since left decided to give m...
[14:09:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03LaminatorX [14] (Score:2) 02ANY work of authorship?? - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:09:06] <exec> 08└─Worded that broadly, you'll need to get a license from the Legal department to get your own family photos printed, perform a song you wrote, send a letter-to-the-editor... hell they's own this SN story submission. Negotiate the objectionable section to something reasonable that protects you both. If...
[14:09:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02It's theirs only while they are paying... - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:09:09] <exec> 08└─If they want to have the right to the product of your labour 24 hours a day, then they have to be prepared to pay for your labour 24 hours a day. What you do in your own time is not something to which they should have a claim. As someone else has suggested, modify the terms of the agreement to state...
[14:09:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the black swan will shatter your world - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:21] <exec> 08└─Even "upbringing" isn't immune to evolution, and no I don't mean memes. You are raised by a human with a personality that is largely under the influence of a genome that is subject to evolution. Parents who raise kids in ways that lead to grandkids will have their DNA propagate into future generatio...
[14:09:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03bart9h [767] (Score:2) 02Re:Training users to ignore warnings - 06Password Alert - Plugin Protects Passwords from Phishing - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:57] <exec> 08└─I don't use a password manager, but a trivial algorithm I run in my head, salted with the site name. It's instantaneous and effortless. The only few passwords I need to memorize are of a few more important accounts that I prefer not to use this system.
[14:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fnord666 [652] (Score:2) 02Probably Not Usable in a Practical Sense - 06Password Alert - Plugin Protects Passwords from Phishing - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:01] <exec> 08└─So many people reuse passwords on multiple sites that this will keep throwing up false positive alerts until the the person either uninstalls the extension or ignores the warnings. A third, best case but least likely option would be that they take the hint and start using a unique password per site,...
[14:10:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondoctor [2963] (Score:2) 02Re:Beta testing - 06Elon Musk Says Pending Radar Autopilot Update Would Prevent More Accidents - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:55] <exec> 08└─This is the crux of things. What's even more mind-boggling is that nobody gives a shit. Literally debugging with peoples lives.
[14:12:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 803 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:07] <exec> 08└─vi has a steep learning curve. After 25 years of using it I still discover new things. But once you reach the first plateau in that learning curve, where you've internalized basic movement and editing commands, it becomes magical to bend code and text to your will without your fingers ever leaving p...
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[14:16:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03gauauu [3693] (Score:1) 02Re:Gave Up on Android - 06Android is a Dead End - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:16:13] <exec> 08└─He meant 4" obviously, as Apple makes two devices smaller than 5" and nobody else even participates in that category anymore, much less provides up to date specs and software updates.
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[15:07:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The interests of mega corp outweigh the public - 06Ubuntu Torrent Removed for DMCA Violation - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:07:25] <exec> 08└─There is no push back because this doesn't hurt the mega corporations, Google, movie and recording industry included. It hurts mom and pop (main street) websites and businesses. Anyone with lawyers on staff can push back.
[15:07:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02There is a clear link - 06Ubuntu Torrent Removed for DMCA Violation - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:07:27] <exec> 08└─The takedown request seeks to remove links to a number of torrent URLS that are alleged to infringe on Paramount movie 'Transformers: Age of Extinction'. The link is actually to an Ubuntu 12.04 iso disk image. I am amazed that anyone with even a modicum of reading skills can imagine a link between t...
[15:07:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Doom, doom, doom & gloom - 06Ask SN: Best Online Store for a Command-Line Tool - 734 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:40] <exec> 08└─I have a subtly different point of view than you. I agree that most apps outside of games and B2B software don't sell. Having tried direct sales from binpress, I can honestly say that software does not sell, however plugins and APIs might work. For instance, it seems that if you want an embedded PDF...
[15:07:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Give up - 06Ask SN: Best Online Store for a Command-Line Tool - 401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:42] <exec> 08└─Specifically, MDC might need to familiarize himself with the concept of a "loss leader": The idea is that you underprice something in order to get a customer comfortable with you and talking to you, so that you can then sell more of the normally-priced stuff. A handy-dandy tool that you've released...
[15:07:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:go Alpha in a week - 06Ask SN: Best Online Store for a Command-Line Tool - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:46] <exec> 08└─No, that's not useful. Unless you mean Hot Pockets?
[15:07:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:go Alpha in a week - 06Ask SN: Best Online Store for a Command-Line Tool - 346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:48] <exec> 08└─GCC is a command line tool and it has great value, but it's value has already been recouped many times over in decades past in previous implementations of compilers, when compilers were new and mysterious. Now compilers are free as in speech and beer. They are no longer novel and mysterious. Do not...
[15:07:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Look at other commercial software? - 06Ask SN: Best Online Store for a Command-Line Tool - 519 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:07:53] <exec> 08└─Games usually go in Steam \ GOG? Desura's site doesn't work for me right now. It's a non-commercial license and an email \ contact info for RARLAB. All the other proprietary software vendors are pretty much doing it the same way: You click buy on their web-site and they leave a CGI email form field...
[15:07:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Web and mobile - 06Ask SN: Best Online Store for a Command-Line Tool - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:07:55] <exec> 08└─You are likely to find a larger audience if you can arrange for the task to be accomplished through a Web browser (perhaps with an agent that runs on the user's computer). You could sell subscriptions to your Web site. If your software could be used on a smartphone or tablet, you are likely to find...
[15:08:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:antiviral sex reassignment - 06Endogenous Viral-Derived Sequences Contribute to Male Muscle Mass - 858 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:06] <exec> 08└─I can point you in the direction of a transformation story or two that may be relevant to your interests…. But they're NSFW so it'll need to wait until this evening. Do you prefer autogynephilia or the BDSM approach? There's also this weird subgenre which I think is BDSM but I'm not sure where a f...
[15:08:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:antiviral sex reassignment - 06Endogenous Viral-Derived Sequences Contribute to Male Muscle Mass - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:08] <exec> 08└─I can think of at least ½ an option that's safe for work.
[15:08:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:antiviral sex reassignment - 06Endogenous Viral-Derived Sequences Contribute to Male Muscle Mass - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:10] <exec> 08└─I think the OP is trying to make a point about men becoming obsolete and devalued, rather than seeking ebook smut. 🍆👌😂😂😂😂😂😂
[15:08:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Misogynist virus - 06Endogenous Viral-Derived Sequences Contribute to Male Muscle Mass - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:08:12] <exec> 08└─Clearly this virus is misogynist, as it makes men stronger, but not women.
[15:08:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Obvious - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:28] <exec> 08└─So drones and nukes?
[15:08:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Obvious - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 601 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:30] <exec> 08└─There are many possible reactions short of war, such as: Harassment of the country's citizens, tariffs and trade restrictions, unilateral economic sanctions or embargoes, withdrawal of financial aid, cancellation of intelligence sharing, supporting opposition groups within the country, military assi...
[15:08:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Understandable, but... - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:43] <exec> 08└─Similar theory does not stop them from trying to drag DotCom to the US so they can rape his assets
[15:08:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02heads up their asses - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:08:45] <exec> 08└─how absurdly self righteous of congress. Who do they think they are fooling with their charades? oh yeah, old partisans who still think the government's on their side. Why don't you old con artists focus on the stuff you're supposed to be doing like abolishing (in some cases a major retooling might...
[15:09:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Timing of information - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:05] <exec> 08└─IANAL, but I would say that makes it unenforceable. There's a chance you could have to fight them in court though, which would be expensive.
[15:09:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:ANY work of authorship?? - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:25] <exec> 08└─Make a sandwich? The company owns it!
[15:09:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Talk to them - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 1443 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:27] <exec> 08└─There's a reason why companies have such clauses. You might not agree with the reason, but the knee-jerk reaction here of "ZOMG evil quit immediately" is unhelpful. The reason for such clauses is that your company (like most software companies) is probably writing software to sell to someone, either...
[15:09:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02California? - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:29] <exec> 08└─Where do you live? If you are in California, most of these clauses are not enforceable.
[15:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fighting poverty and lack of education - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:47] <exec> 08└─[[Citation needed]]
[15:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fighting poverty and lack of education - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:49] <exec> 08└─Idiocracy is an idea expressed through a movie. If there is a discussion about limiting the number of children, who should breed, and "population engineering"; you do understand how it applies, right? Or do you need a venn diagram to explain it? That's completely unrelated
[15:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fighting poverty and lack of education - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 589 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:51] <exec> 08└─The thing about Idiocracy is that it claims that the society of retards is the result of natural selection and genetics. So it's wrong in a pedantic way. I still think it's ultimately correct because culture can change that rapidly, and it's culture that gets passed down. Culture can also spread. We...
[15:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"What's a bio-ethicist?" - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:08] <exec> 08└─I'm a biologist
[15:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02Don't have children: - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:12] <exec> 08└─Leave the work of having children to all of us bio-ethicists. We have your best interests at heart. Trust us! :)
[15:11:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Genius - 06Canadian Nuclear Reactor Pending Shut Down Threatens Radioisotope Supply - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:01] <exec> 08└─also, don't forget after free dispersal of the north korean gift, many abnormal growth might occur so there will be an even greater need for isotopes to research the gift .. uhm .. fallout. maybe the north koreans can help us out with that too?
[15:11:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Beta testing - 06Elon Musk Says Pending Radar Autopilot Update Would Prevent More Accidents - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:24] <exec> 08└─Except once again we see that autopilot is an exceptionally poor name for this feature, even if it's functionally a lot like autopilot. There aren't many hazards at 50,000 feet that will jump out in front of you, except for the Canadian møøse.
[15:12:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:25] <exec> 08└─That's how I *wish* it would work. The default these days seems to be that that behavior only happens for things like autocomplete; help screens replace one of your active frames. It sounds like upgrading emacs across significant versions leaves a lot of old settings in place in the process.
[15:12:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:28] <exec> 08└─Ouch. For anybody wondering, to dismiss a help screen, Ctrl-k [enter] will do it as long as point is still in the buffer.
[15:14:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"a usefull old problem" - 06Brian Krebs DDoSed After Exposing vDos Operators; Israeli Authorities Hit Back With Arrests - 1174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:18] <exec> 08└─there's no "cyber war". if it would start, the internet would wink out in 2 seconds. like i said, the internet is super complex, fickle and is build on trust. it is not suitable for war waging. if you want to use "cyber" with something, you can use it as "cyber vandalism", "cyber extortion" or "cybe...
[15:15:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03weeds [611] (Score:2) 02Re:Halon - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 764 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:29] <exec> 08└─Well, my friend, you can doubt it all you want. I spec'd the system, I selected the system, I purchased the system, I supervised the installation of the system, and I was in the room for the test. Those cylinders that said HALON on them were connected and I had the pleasure of sounding like Michael...
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[16:07:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:There is a clear link - 06Ubuntu Torrent Removed for DMCA Violation - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:35] <exec> 08└─And upgrading will transform your Linux system into a Poetterix system (all later Ubuntu versions use systemd).
[16:07:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Censor first - 06Ubuntu Torrent Removed for DMCA Violation - 692 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:07:37] <exec> 08└─This is part of why DMCA takedown notices shouldn't exist (though websites still should have safe harbor) and the copyright thugs should have to go through the court system from the beginning. Censor-first-ask-questions-later policies are unjust; the trial doesn't happen from the beginning, and the...
[16:07:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Censor first - 06Ubuntu Torrent Removed for DMCA Violation - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:39] <exec> 08└─Cue this troll: https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org]
[16:07:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Censor first - 06Ubuntu Torrent Removed for DMCA Violation - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:41] <exec> 08└─Did you have a constructive rebuttal you wanted to make?
[16:07:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Give up - 06Ask SN: Best Online Store for a Command-Line Tool - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:57] <exec> 08└─My thought was that most, if not all, OSes have a method for automation. PowerShell or just shell scripting being the most common. I'm curious about what he could be doing that's sufficiently better than the free tools available to justify paying.
[16:08:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Patreon? - 06Ask SN: Best Online Store for a Command-Line Tool - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:08:06] <exec> 08└─If the tool is sufficiently useful, it might be an option to go Patreon and open source instead.
[16:08:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02big tent, infinite variety, command line tools... - 06Ask SN: Best Online Store for a Command-Line Tool - 526 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:08:08] <exec> 08└─I look forward to seeing what MDC produces - I may not use it, need it, but I applaud the creativity. And as far as command line tools go, I proposed one a day or so go, to reuse binary code paths . I feel sure someone would slap a gui on it, but I would make it for the command line. Same for protei...
[16:08:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:antiviral sex reassignment - 06Endogenous Viral-Derived Sequences Contribute to Male Muscle Mass - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:21] <exec> 08└─I'm wondering if that's the same AC below. I figured I'd attempt to reinterpret the comment in a way that was completely unintended. I blame Buzzard for giving me the idea. :) Actually, I'm wondering where the alt-right are. Looking forward to how jmorris will connect this to bathroom rape!
[16:08:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Spice Must Flow! - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:33] <exec> 08└─What's the worst that could happen? 1- Saudi orders the rest of the mid-east oil producers to stop the spice (oil) flowing to North America. 2- Fuel prices skyrocket. 3- The fuel finally runs out. 4- America grinds to a halt. 5- America looks like the TV series Dark Angel.
[16:08:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the plot thickens... - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:46] <exec> 08└─Lame duck president in an election year. They know he will veto it because the political repercussions for him are minimal, which is why everyone in the Senate passed it. They know it is a bad bill, but Obama gives them political cover just before the election. And I bet the override vote doesn't ha...
[16:08:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the plot thickens... - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 679 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:48] <exec> 08└─If they have the votes to override the veto, then they're not *just* doing it to look like they care... and it is also election year posturing. If they don't have the votes to override the veto, then they're doing it just to look like they care... and it is also election year posturing. And puhleeze...
[16:08:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score:1) 02Re:Darnit, we need an edit window. 5-10 minutes? - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:52] <exec> 08└─Nooooo! No editing of posted comments, ever! Just do what you did here and post a corrected comment. Preview is your friend. If SN needs any changes at all, it would be "inline" posting to keep the entire thread in view.
[16:08:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Darnit, we need an edit window. 5-10 minutes? - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:54] <exec> 08└─>mod parent disagree
[16:08:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Darnit, we need an edit window. 5-10 minutes? - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:56] <exec> 08└─oops, I meant off-topic
[16:09:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:Timing of information - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:27] <exec> 08└─I walked out of a potential employer's office in a case like that. "What do you mean the employment agreement I am expected to agree to is confidential?" That was a food warehouse, not a tech job though.
[16:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03bucc5062 [699] (Score:2) 02Re:Dragons: Reign of Fire: - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:38] <exec> 08└─Free is relative and some of those "free" streaming sights either want too much information or try to talk you into a CC number. I have had some luck with Putlocker, but some of the alternative links for live streaming got real sketchy with me.
[16:09:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re-write your contract - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 548 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:09:40] <exec> 08└─Take the contract clauses that state that "any work you do during the term of your employment belongs to company" and strike it out, replacing it with "any work you do during the term of your employment on company time and/or company equipment belongs to company". Send the modified contract to their...
[16:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Salary or hourly? - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 1037 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:09:52] <exec> 08└─I ask if one is salary or hourly because if you're hourly they have absolutely no claim on anything you're doing outside of the hours they are paying you for. (They may be able to fire you for moonlighting, or maybe not.) But if they haven't paid for it, it is not theirs. Salaried positions are diff...
[16:10:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Bad aim - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 786 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:34] <exec> 08└─Here's the problem: 1) He doesn't have enough evidence to support his assertions that climate change is as much of a danger as he claims it is; 2) He's targeting the developed world with his population reduction rhetoric, but they've already solved the overpopulation problem and not only have a nega...
[16:10:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Master - 06Password Alert - Plugin Protects Passwords from Phishing - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:50] <exec> 08└─No, of course not. They'd never put sensitive data like this in a log. They'll use a proper database, of course.
[16:10:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Re:Master - 06Password Alert - Plugin Protects Passwords from Phishing - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:52] <exec> 08└─Hopefully it is MariaDB, that way they can share the results with the world. With their security track record don't even need to know the user name and password for the server because proper content in a SELECT statement gives you the proper privileges.
[16:10:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Probably Not Usable in a Practical Sense - 06Password Alert - Plugin Protects Passwords from Phishing - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:55] <exec> 08└─Well, even if they do, they'll probably use two passwords: One for Google, and one for everything else. And the difference will probably be a "G" attached to the Google password.
[16:11:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score:2) 02slight correction - 06Terahertz Imaging System Can "Read" Closed Books - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:19] <exec> 08└─What TFS says: Terahertz Imaging System Can "Read" Closed Books
[16:11:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:what about things that aren't large and dense? - 06Elon Musk Says Pending Radar Autopilot Update Would Prevent More Accidents - 505 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:49] <exec> 08└─Modern motorcycles don't have much metal in then unless you're talking about large Harleys and similar. There's a reason why there are laws allowing cyclists to run red lights. They're also oddly shaped and can take up any part of the lane. I'd hope that they can see the bikes, but I wouldn't trust...
[16:12:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:58] <exec> 08└─Um, my comment was more on help systems should tell newbies how to exit the help system. Not that I don't know how to close a help window. And keep in mind this was 90/91, I'm sure Emacs has changed quite a bit since then.
[16:13:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:09] <exec> 08└─A text editor that is mode based instead of a natural flow like every other text editor ever made
[16:13:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Retarded - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:56] <exec> 08└─The Netflix in a box is the solution that has kept things viable this long.
[16:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Downloads Here - 06Microsoft Officially Releases Skype 1.7 for Linux - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:38] <exec> 08└─c) The actual UI looks like about 1998 Considering what modern UIs look like, this is a big plus. I wish we could just go back to UIs from ~2003 and stay there.
[16:16:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Apple is no better - 06Android is a Dead End - 1214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:46] <exec> 08└─I have a housemate with another S4 (this one's the L720T, mine is the older L720), and that one sucks because it doesn't recognize the SIM card so it won't make calls any more. Replacing the SIM socket assembly doesn't work, doing a factory reset on the software doesn't work, so it appears to be a m...
[16:17:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03joshuajon [807] (Score:2) 02Re:Not unique - 06Android is a Dead End - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:17:07] <exec> 08└─Good thing USB-C is replacing MicroUSB which is better than either that, or Lightning.
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[17:07:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:2) 02Couple of software engineers - 06VW Engineer: Entire Design Team In On The Cheat - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:07:37] <exec> 08└─Sure, only a couple of software engineers were needed to implement the cheat, but really? The entire team of mechanical engineers with specialties in emmissions and control were completely out of the loop? How exactly does VW expect us to believe them when their lies keep getting more and more ridic...
[17:07:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Sure, but... - 06VW Engineer: Entire Design Team In On The Cheat - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:07:38] <exec> 08└─I'd rather be driving right behind a cheating VW than most of the US-made diesels, with their amazingly big black exhaust clouds. The VWs often carry a second person, too.
[17:07:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:2) 02Re:Sure, but... - 06VW Engineer: Entire Design Team In On The Cheat - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:40] <exec> 08└─amazingly big black exhaust clouds
[17:07:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sure, but... - 06VW Engineer: Entire Design Team In On The Cheat - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:43] <exec> 08└─Unsupported characterization. If you reside in the USA, when you say American made diesels, you are talking trucks or buses, since US companies don't make diesel passenger cars--that is exclusive to the Germans. I would rather not be behind ANY DIESEL AT ALL, be it a bus, truck, or passenger car.
[17:07:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Sure, but... - 06VW Engineer: Entire Design Team In On The Cheat - 976 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:45] <exec> 08└─The problem with those US pickup trucks is their stupid owners illegally modify them specifically to make smoke clouds, because they're assholes. The manufacturers can't do much about that; there's only so much a carmaker can do to prevent modifications. What we need is much better enforcement. Cops...
[17:07:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sure, but... - 06VW Engineer: Entire Design Team In On The Cheat - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:47] <exec> 08└─I'm pretty sure the cops are also assholes and cheering them on. Me, I like to be an asshole and talk about how my car gets 40 mpg when those assholes start complaining about gas prices.
[17:07:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sure, but... - 06VW Engineer: Entire Design Team In On The Cheat - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:49] <exec> 08└─Yeah, they are called trucks, dumb dumb.
[17:07:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Sure, but... - 06VW Engineer: Entire Design Team In On The Cheat - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:51] <exec> 08└─Can't fly a rebel flag proudly and not roll coal from your Blu-Def'ed stacks, can you?
[17:07:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Oh shit, the fall guy got back up! - 06VW Engineer: Entire Design Team In On The Cheat - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:07:53] <exec> 08└─Liang, who will continue to help the government in its investigation as part of the deal, pled guilty to three counts of conspiracy: to commit wire fraud, defraud the federal government, and violate the Clean Air Act. He faces a maximum of 5 years behind bars, 3 years supervised release, and a maxim...
[17:07:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Austin Harrouff was ‘making animal noises’ when he - 06VW Engineer: Entire Design Team In On The Cheat - 1061 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:07:55] <exec> 08└─Austin Harrouff was ‘making animal noises’ when he was arrested at the scene of a grisly double murder in Florida Austin Harrouff was ‘making animal noises’ when he was arrested at the scene of a grisly double murder in Florida Austin Harrouff was ‘making animal noises’ when he was arres...
[17:07:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Austin Harrouff was ‘making animal noises’ when - 06VW Engineer: Entire Design Team In On The Cheat - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:58] <exec> 08└─mod parent up it's time to fly! think happy thoughts I CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNN! OH THERE YOU ARE, PETER! EUR EUR EUR EUR EUUUUUUUUURRR!
[17:07:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Ya don't say! - 06VW Engineer: Entire Design Team In On The Cheat - 379 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:08:00] <exec> 08└─Only the extremely gullible would ever have believed that just a couple people were in on any cheat. Not only was the entire engineering team in on it, but so were a whole bunch of QC people, and damned sure management was there overseeing everything. Doesn't much matter whether the assembly line is...
[17:08:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02ripe for abuse - 06Ubuntu Torrent Removed for DMCA Violation - 746 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:08:14] <exec> 08└─> Why aren't US businesses, indeed any business worldwide, up in arms about this practice which could adversely affect their own ability to trade and ultimately, reduce their profits? More to the point, why aren't US businesses, indeed any business worldwide, massively abusing this system to harass...
[17:08:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:ripe for abuse - 06Ubuntu Torrent Removed for DMCA Violation - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:08:15] <exec> 08└─Fix the problem: send Google and microsoft auto-takedowns for google.com and bing.com Nah... They'll just add a whitelist.
[17:08:16] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03isostatic [365] 02Do No Evil - 06Ubuntu Torrent Removed for DMCA Violation - 449 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:08:17] <exec> 08└─Remember to set the Evil Bit [wikipedia.org] And yet Google has complied with the request and scrubbed the link to the page in question from its search index. Of course they have. Yet when Warner Bros was claimed to be an infringing site google didn't remove it. http://www.bbc.com
[17:08:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:3, Insightful) 02The uneasy truce - 06Ubuntu Torrent Removed for DMCA Violation - 4118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:08:19] <exec> 08└─The DCMA makes everyone mad, but right now it's an uneasy-but-sort-of-workable truce. Copyright holders hate the DCMA because it doesn't give them the ability to hold YouTube or Facebook or other platforms accountable for hosting pirated content. And make no mistake, there IS pirated content out the...
[17:08:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fnord666 [652] (Score:2) 02Re:The uneasy truce - 06Ubuntu Torrent Removed for DMCA Violation - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:08:21] <exec> 08└─However, once an item has been flagged, the DCMA(sic) requires it to be taken down for as long as it's in dispute, which can be a long time.
[17:08:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:2) 02Re:depends - 06Ask SN: Best Online Store for a Command-Line Tool - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:08:33] <exec> 08└─It provides shopping cart functionality to the command line, enabling the selling of physical goods and services only.
[17:08:41] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] 02Re:go Alpha in a week - 06Ask SN: Best Online Store for a Command-Line Tool - 67 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:08:41] <exec> 08└─What command line tool could be created in 2016 that has any value?
[17:08:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02If you're opposed to man+girl you don't deserve - 06Ask SN: Best Online Store for a Command-Line Tool - 867 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:08:51] <exec> 08└─rent. Dteronomy 22 28-29, hebrew allows men to rape girl children and keep them. If you opposed Dteronomy (22, 28-29, hebrew) and you entice others to follow instead woman's democratic law. You MUST be killed on the spot according to Dteronomy. Not get paied. >In the United States, as late as the 18...
[17:09:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02"men are viruses" --women - 06Endogenous Viral-Derived Sequences Contribute to Male Muscle Mass - 803 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:06] <exec> 08└─Marry little girls. Kill feminists. >In the United States, as late as the 1880s most States set the minimum age at 10-12, (in Delaware it was 7 in 1895).[8] Inspired by the "Maiden Tribute" female reformers in the US initiated their own campaign[9] which petitioned legislators to raise the legal min...
[17:09:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:2) 02Re:Reparations from Obama - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 546 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:19] <exec> 08└─No, no, you've got it backwards. The real answer is to sue Mitt Romney, the real Saudi Arabia of this situation. 1. He, and only he, could have prevented Obama from becoming president in 2012, and conceivably in 2008. 2. He had the foreknowledge that Obama existed, and still didn't prevent him from...
[17:09:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:the plot thickens... - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:33] <exec> 08└─um, i didnt think anyone would take the pallets thing literally, but the outcome is the same: kongresskritters who play along will be rewarded one way or another...
[17:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03hamsterdan [2829] (Score:2) 02Re:Darnit, we need an edit window. 5-10 minutes? - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:40] <exec> 08└─Agree 100% on that. Now I'll have to go back to read remaining comments.
[17:09:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Understandable, but.. - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 1580 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:45] <exec> 08└─Well the US has a very long interest with Guantanamo Bay; its not like this base just opened up. Guantanamo has always been an American colony, dating back to English colonial rule. George Washingtons older half brother was one of the first commanders of the colony for fucks sake. There has been a c...
[17:10:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not sure this legally holds - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 1195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:28] <exec> 08└─This has teeth, of a sort. IBM does just this; they had right of first refusal for anything when I was there, and I watched them enforce this (termination + lawyer-ese ensued) twice. Can't comment on whether IBM actually had the right to do this, blah blah, just that they did do it. Right or wrong d...
[17:10:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:2) 02Symmetry - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:39] <exec> 08└─Point out to them something like this: I too have intellectual property and valuable trade secrets. Take the nondisclosure and intellectual property agreement, and reverse the roles. If you would not be willing to sign such an agreement with the roles reversed, you can presume I will not sign it as...
[17:11:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Fighting poverty and lack of education - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:02] <exec> 08└─He's right, however, that we need to change our economy so that it doesn't need continuous growth.
[17:11:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Only ten years - 06Password Alert - Plugin Protects Passwords from Phishing - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:35] <exec> 08└─> this straightforward, commonsense measure was first suggested So you find it straightforward commonsense to have a piece of code which listens to everything you type anytime, and flags when it's your password? Worm writers everywhere would like to give you a hug. The FBI too, since they were up in...
[17:11:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Re:Only ten years - 06Password Alert - Plugin Protects Passwords from Phishing - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:37] <exec> 08└─So you find it straightforward commonsense to have a piece of code which listens to everything you type anytime
[17:12:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Older solution... - 06Terahertz Imaging System Can "Read" Closed Books - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:12:11] <exec> 08└─Just make people write/draw in lead ink and paint, and use a 3D X-ray machine. That already worked 15 years ago. Now, let me go get my time machine to teach lead processing techniques to the ancients. What could possibly go wrong?
[17:12:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Petten and Mol - 06Canadian Nuclear Reactor Pending Shut Down Threatens Radioisotope Supply - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:26] <exec> 08└─You guys just need to import the French 100% Radiation-Proof Border technology, widely advertised in May 1986 when the Germans were busy panicking about some silly cloud.
[17:12:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Large and Fluffy - 06Elon Musk Says Pending Radar Autopilot Update Would Prevent More Accidents - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:37] <exec> 08└─Elon needs to re-think "large and fluffy": https://twitter.com [twitter.com]
[17:12:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03schad [2398] (Score:2) 02Re:what about things that aren't large and dense? - 06Elon Musk Says Pending Radar Autopilot Update Would Prevent More Accidents - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:45] <exec> 08└─Modern motorcycles don't have much metal in then unless you're talking about large Harleys and similar.
[17:13:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Dead end. - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:11] <exec> 08└─>east 
[17:13:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dead end. - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:13] <exec> 08└─>east A fork in the road You are on a stretch of dirt road lined by tall willow trees. Their shade is pleasant, but offset by the smell of pungent manure. The road runs to the west and forks to the east and northeast. There is a wooden signpost here. Your crotch is still sore from a boulder. >
[17:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 865 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:49] <exec> 08└─Dude Snotnose, you just make me want to give you a hug. We feel your pain. We all have stories. You're safe with us (well.... maybe...), we commiserate. Maybe we should go all confession-time-slash-dailywtf? One time I spent a month wondering why my unit would run in tests but not on production hard...
[17:14:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02wow!! - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 524 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:14:09] <exec> 08└─> all of these keys turn into directional arrows like vi is a video game and you need to find the secret keys that can destroy the letters before moving on to the boss stage where you figure out how to save, or do anything else. That sounds really fun! You're saying I could do this AT WORK under gui...
[17:18:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Not unique - 06Android is a Dead End - 2396 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:18:04] <exec> 08└─No, the lightning connector is objectively inferior because of ubiquity and openness. Those two things completely trump every other consideration. It's like having a car that seems great, except you can only drive it on a few particular roads that aren't usefully located for you, and it costs $10M....
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[18:07:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02If it quacks like a duck, it may be a mongoose - 06Researcher Claims to Have Recorded Dolphins Conversing in Sentences - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:07:32] <exec> 08└─Until they actually decipher the language, it's probably premature to say it's (full) language just because it "looks like" language. We may be missing a big piece of the puzzle, comparable to not knowing that the chemistry of Mars soil can mimic life in the 1970's.
[18:07:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Translated... - 06Researcher Claims to Have Recorded Dolphins Conversing in Sentences - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:07:34] <exec> 08└─"Is this mic on?" or "Can this creep leave us alone already?" or "Hold my bass and watch this"
[18:07:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Translated... - 06Researcher Claims to Have Recorded Dolphins Conversing in Sentences - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:36] <exec> 08└─Goodbye and thanks for all the fish!
[18:07:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Translated... - 06Researcher Claims to Have Recorded Dolphins Conversing in Sentences - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:38] <exec> 08└─"If those pesky humans decipher our language, they are going to get a massive intellectual property infringement lawsuit."
[18:07:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ya don't say! - 06VW Engineer: Entire Design Team In On The Cheat - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:57] <exec> 08└─Didn't sister companies also cheat? They probably didn't just take the VW designs as-is, but had to dig into them to modify them for their models. It would have to be a high-level plot to coordinate it across brands.
[18:07:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ya don't say! - 06VW Engineer: Entire Design Team In On The Cheat - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:59] <exec> 08└─Only the extremely gullible would ever believe such a thing as clean-diesel was possible. How humanity made it this far is always a mystery to me if putting the word "clean" in front of something easily persuades 50% of the populace that the product is good for the environment.
[18:08:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:The uneasy truce - 06Ubuntu Torrent Removed for DMCA Violation - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:18] <exec> 08└─Sure. How about YouTube's FAQ on the subject? [google.com] The counter notification process takes 10 business days to complete once initiated, so please be patient. During this time, the claimant may file an action seeking a court order to keep the content down.
[18:08:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The uneasy truce - 06Ubuntu Torrent Removed for DMCA Violation - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:19] <exec> 08└─Removing the "take down first, only restore on successful appeal" is good for content posters and will remove abuse, but will also leave actual pirated content up longer.
[18:08:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] 02go Alpha in a week - 06Ask SN: Best Online Store for a Command-Line Tool - 1739 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:08:38] <exec> 08└─What command line tool could be created in 2016 that has any value? It must be some highly specialized niche product. I would suggest looking where products in that niche are distributed. If your niche is comfortable with command-line tools (software developers, scientists, etc) do they buy command-...
[18:08:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedBear [1734] (Score:2) 02Re:many? - 06Ask SN: Best Online Store for a Command-Line Tool - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:44] <exec> 08└─She's not quite Rommie (oh bad 90s SF reference) but she's hot enough to wake me up in the morning and stuff.
[18:10:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:Not sure this legally holds - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:23] <exec> 08└─One such employer that I've since left decided to give me grief because I wasn't answering my work email promptly at 1:30 AM on a Saturday night.
[18:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Mostly unenforceable - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 570 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:36] <exec> 08└─These kinds of clauses are standard and mostly unenforceable, depending on the state you live in. In California for example, any work you do strictly on your time, without company resources, and not relating to the employer's work cannot be claimed by your employer. Of course, that last clause is a...
[18:11:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"What's a bio-ethicist?" - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:16] <exec> 08└─I'm a bio-cyber cyber-bioethicist!
[18:11:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03julian [6003] (Score:2) 02Re:"What's a bio-ethicist?" - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:18] <exec> 08└─Literally every person who knows, or who would ever know what a bio-ethicist is absolutely needs to continue having children - maybe more than they were considering.
[18:11:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Consider having no more children - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:22] <exec> 08└─Looks like someone forgot to send back their Pentium 60 for a free replacement.
[18:11:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Only ten years - 06Password Alert - Plugin Protects Passwords from Phishing - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:37] <exec> 08└─My keyboard driver doesn't suddenly scream "Hey! That's your password!". It also doesn't run as a plugin of my browser, which is known to be the safest place to run anything.
[18:12:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:what about things that aren't large and dense? - 06Elon Musk Says Pending Radar Autopilot Update Would Prevent More Accidents - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:45] <exec> 08└─Have you seen the motor on a motorcycle? They're tiny and often times insufficient to signal the light to turn.
[18:13:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:What am I missing here? - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:57] <exec> 08└─Not that vi is any better in that regard...at least if you open a file in emacs the cursor keys work and when you type some characters it probably does what you expect. vi has two modes -- "beep repeatedly" and "break everything"
[18:18:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03JeanCroix [573] (Score:2) 02Re:Not unique - 06Android is a Dead End - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:18:06] <exec> 08└─And since the latest version of Android has granular permissions, one can immediately disable all unnecessary permissions upon installing a new app. If that breaks the app, then it's not worth having, imo. But I can't recall a single instance of an app being broken by my denying it access to things...
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[19:07:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Save money! - 06New Programming Language Delivers Fourfold Speedups on Problems Common in the Age of Big Data - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:07:26] <exec> 08└─So... to go 4x faster, we should reduce cache line sizes and not bother with wide memory buses?
[19:07:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Translated... - 06Researcher Claims to Have Recorded Dolphins Conversing in Sentences - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:37] <exec> 08└─"So long" you dolt.
[19:07:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Close... - 06Researcher Claims to Have Recorded Dolphins Conversing in Sentences - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:39] <exec> 08└─But no cigar [wordpress.com]
[19:07:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Question - 06Researcher Claims to Have Recorded Dolphins Conversing in Sentences - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:07:41] <exec> 08└─Are there any linguists n the room? Question is, why are there feminine and masculine pronouns: eg. La main, versus le main Why is there "la" and not just "le" in French? Even "le femme" would be understandable as the girl even though "le" is masculine. Long time listener, first time asking...
[19:07:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Question - 06Researcher Claims to Have Recorded Dolphins Conversing in Sentences - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:43] <exec> 08└─Followup question: Why do so many non-English languages feel the need to give everything a gender? Inanimate objects, concepts, and geographical features do not need genders.
[19:07:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Question - 06Researcher Claims to Have Recorded Dolphins Conversing in Sentences - 1397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:46] <exec> 08└─Armchair linguist here, so I'll just quote Wikipedia [wikipedia.org]: In linguistics, grammatical gender is a specific form of noun-class system in which the division of noun classes forms an agreement system with another aspect of the language, such as adjectives, articles, pronouns, or verbs. Thi...
[19:07:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Sure, but... - 06VW Engineer: Entire Design Team In On The Cheat - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:59] <exec> 08└─Whats worse is many of those stupid owners don't use them as a truck. Just a penis extension. Real pickups owners beat the piss out of them towing and/or hauling crap in the bed.
[19:08:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:Sure, but... - 06VW Engineer: Entire Design Team In On The Cheat - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:00] <exec> 08└─Right, %pet_issue% justifies armed agents of the state to detain and cage people because we need to %send_msg% about %pet_issue% because of %moral_outrage%. And that also requires %extrajudicial_measure% because %moral_outrage%. Of course, no armed agent of the state would ever use %tenuous_reason%...
[19:08:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03zero_cool [2924] (Score:0, Flamebait) 02Re:Sure, but... - 06VW Engineer: Entire Design Team In On The Cheat - 858 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:03] <exec> 08└─I live in a cold climate, def freezes in the tank 3/4 of the year, am i just supposed to park my vehicle and walk 3/4 of the year? as for the type of filters that you have to regen..... all they do is store all the pollution up and burn it off at once and as an added negative they decrease fuel mile...
[19:08:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Sure, but... - 06VW Engineer: Entire Design Team In On The Cheat - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:07] <exec> 08└─What are you talking about?
[19:08:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Re:Austin Harrouff was ‘making animal noises’ when - 06VW Engineer: Entire Design Team In On The Cheat - 985 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:12] <exec> 08└─I hate to break it to you, but it's looking more like it was just boring schizophrenia. (Articles mention poison, but I think that's peripheral to what happened outside of the internal injuries to the kid). The dad admitted that schizophrenia runs in the family and that the kid had been acting weird...
[19:08:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03iWantToKeepAnon [686] (Score:2) 02Design it too .... ? .... burn less fuel - 06VW Engineer: Entire Design Team In On The Cheat - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:08:17] <exec> 08└─Rather than attempt to redesign the engine
[19:08:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03fraxinus-tree [5590] (Score:1) 02Re:Design it too .... ? .... burn less fuel - 06VW Engineer: Entire Design Team In On The Cheat - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:19] <exec> 08└─Engine polluting less is not only a catalytic converter or DPF attached. In diesels, it starts somewhere around the form of the combustion chamber and the flow of the air inside. EGR modes, phased injection, jet and flame front form - everything contributes to the clean (or not-so-clean) burning.
[19:09:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Spice Must Flow! - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:34] <exec> 08└─North America has enough oil to meet its needs.
[19:09:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Spice Must Flow! - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:35] <exec> 08└─Actually it is the removal of -$$$$. This is an incredibly stupid precedent to set for a country with an extremely violent and warlike past and many international interests. Just imagine if everyone terrorized by US-sponsored terror up and sued the US government and seized US assets abroad? The US w...
[19:10:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:Talk to them - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 580 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:54] <exec> 08└─The reason for such clauses is that your company (like most software companies) is probably writing software to sell to someone, either directly or as part of a product. As such, they need to own the code. Consider the chaos if an employee could claim "yeah, I wrote that code at 5:30, but I clocked...
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[20:07:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:3, Insightful) 02New language to common problems - 06New Programming Language Delivers Fourfold Speedups on Problems Common in the Age of Big Data - 524 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:07:24] <exec> 08└─Fortran delivered all kinds of speedups and optimizations for common problems in Assembly language. C++ and its APIs delivered tremendous efficiencies in development of windowed, GUI applications, network client-server applications, and other common problems that the APIs addressed. Script flavors d...
[20:07:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:New language to common problems - 06New Programming Language Delivers Fourfold Speedups on Problems Common in the Age of Big Data - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:25] <exec> 08└─Maybe you should have first RTFA. The title is utterly misleading; this is not a new language, it's an extension to OpenMP. If I understand correctly, basically it coordinates the memory accesses from different cores.
[20:07:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:If it quacks like a duck, it may be a mongoose - 06Researcher Claims to Have Recorded Dolphins Conversing in Sentences - 372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:35] <exec> 08└─The computational linguist in me wants to contest that. You can recognize the difficulty/complexity classes of languages(repeating tokens, organized structure, context free grammar) without necessarily knowing any of the subjective meaning to any given element. You could tell the difference between...
[20:07:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Translated... - 06Researcher Claims to Have Recorded Dolphins Conversing in Sentences - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:41] <exec> 08└─"Frank, what have I told you?! If those pesky humans decipher our language, they are going to get a massive intellectual property infringement lawsuit going against us while we don't have opposable thumbs, money, or lawyers. Stop playing with the humans, Frank, they may be contagious and have no res...
[20:07:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Question - 06Researcher Claims to Have Recorded Dolphins Conversing in Sentences - 1541 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:46] <exec> 08└─My personal theory is just simply for the reason some languages have a plural and need agreement depending on singular/plural. Japanese, for example, lacks grammatical plural. Black English Vernacular has the interesting property that positive/negative tend to agree (in this way "Dindu Nuffin" is no...
[20:07:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03tfried [5534] (Score:2) 02Re:Question - 06Researcher Claims to Have Recorded Dolphins Conversing in Sentences - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:49] <exec> 08└─Are there any linguists n the room?
[20:07:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Claims exceed the data - 06Researcher Claims to Have Recorded Dolphins Conversing in Sentences - 1686 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:07:51] <exec> 08└─What they actually found was that the dolphins appear to have the equivalent of phonemes and probably words, and the statistical distribution of them indicates the presence of intelligence and possibly language because there are common and rare sounds, distributed similarly to human language. Intere...
[20:07:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03iWantToKeepAnon [686] (Score:2) 02Re:Claims exceed the data - 06Researcher Claims to Have Recorded Dolphins Conversing in Sentences - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:54] <exec> 08└─we probably won't be able to even start until we have a translator for our respective sounds.
[20:08:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Sure, but... - 06VW Engineer: Entire Design Team In On The Cheat - 675 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:10] <exec> 08└─Don't be stupid. The people are intentionally emitting dangerous pollution into the worst place possible: right in front of other peoples' cars (and pedestrians), forcing them to breathe it. Particulate pollution is immediately dangerous to human health (unlike most other types, which are much more...
[20:08:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Sure, but... - 06VW Engineer: Entire Design Team In On The Cheat - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:12] <exec> 08└─> Shall we shoot loud motorcyclists on sight as well? Only with silencers, obviously...
[20:08:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Sure, but... - 06VW Engineer: Entire Design Team In On The Cheat - 546 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:15] <exec> 08└─Let me guess, you're a moron who doesn't know anything about your own vehicle: http://govictoryblue.com [govictoryblue.com] http://mitchell1.com [mitchell1.com] I was able to find that in 20 seconds with a Google search. DEF freezi...
[20:08:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03goodie [1877] (Score:2) 02Re:Sure, but... - 06VW Engineer: Entire Design Team In On The Cheat - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:17] <exec> 08└─The problem is that 99% of those people don't even need a truck. They like to have one just "because". Just because somebody tows something once a year does not mean they need a pickup. People like to rationalize things that way but in general, like all cars, it's more of a status thing IMHO.
[20:08:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sure, but... - 06VW Engineer: Entire Design Team In On The Cheat - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:19] <exec> 08└─The problem with those US pickup trucks is their stupid owners illegally modify them specifically to make smoke clouds, because they're assholes. The manufacturers can't do much about that; there's only so much a carmaker can do to prevent modifications.
[20:08:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Do No Evil - 06Ubuntu Torrent Removed for DMCA Violation - 510 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:47] <exec> 08└─Agreed. They have clearly shown that they are mainly concerned with not antagonizing major corporations, so they cannot be considered safe, trustworthy, reliable, or honorable. If they had taken down Warner's site after its request, one could accept that they were just following the law. Since they...
[20:08:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03MrGuy [1007] 02The uneasy truce - 06Ubuntu Torrent Removed for DMCA Violation - 4118 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:08:48] <exec> 08└─The DCMA makes everyone mad, but right now it's an uneasy-but-sort-of-workable truce. Copyright holders hate the DCMA because it doesn't give them the ability to hold YouTube or Facebook or other platforms accountable for hosting pirated content. And make no mistake, there IS pirated content out the...
[20:09:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:depends - 06Ask SN: Best Online Store for a Command-Line Tool - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:03] <exec> 08└─It provides shopping cart functionality to the command line, enabling the selling of physical goods and services only.
[20:10:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:i has a sad. - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:12] <exec> 08└─I would be surprised if saudis were treated as enemy. 9/11 gave the USA a free pass in the gulf, trillions spent in defense money, internal fascism, spiking oil prices. It's more a case of I scratch your back you scratch mine. Terror acts are either: done by those already in charge to keep subjects...
[20:11:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03choose another one [515] 02Contribution without contamination - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 478 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:11:01] <exec> 08└─You can always do as the FSF does (and has done for decades - this is not a new problem) and contribute with a copyright assignment or a disclaimer or copyright interest, from your employer. If it's an FSF project you would already be doing this - https://www.gnu.org [gnu...
[20:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03schad [2398] (Score:2) 02Re:what about things that aren't large and dense? - 06Elon Musk Says Pending Radar Autopilot Update Would Prevent More Accidents - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:20] <exec> 08└─What do induction loops have to do with radar?
[20:15:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pay for Usage - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:15:37] <exec> 08└─All the weed growers want to know where you live :P Seriously, what power company doesn't meter? I'm metered for everything! Except sewage, but I think that's rolled into the water bill, not sure.
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[21:10:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Got your "time" crystals right here - 06Time Crystals Might Exist After All - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:25] <exec> 08└─https://lgdb.org/game/chaosesque-anthology [lgdb.org]         Has reached release 93. Over 100 weapons, city generation, buildable buildings (like RTS) and furnishings, spell casting, medeval weaps, futuristic weaps, modern weaps, foliage system, nukes, etc etc. Thoughts? Took 10 time.
[21:10:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Got your "time" crystals right here - 06Time Crystals Might Exist After All - 719 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:36] <exec> 08└─Beyond the time cube, which is shaped like a sodium chorlide crystal, and worthy of 4 24 hour days per side (except the tops and bottom since the cube isn't sideways like that) I have to argue with the comment "The scientists predict that the systems will exhibit the periodic, oscillating motion tha...
[21:10:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:New language to common problems - 06New Programming Language Delivers Fourfold Speedups on Problems Common in the Age of Big Data - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:42] <exec> 08└─> coordinates the memory accesses from different cores. That's my take from TFA, which puzzles me: does it mean the core stays stalled until enough other cores are requesting data? I wanna see that decision state machine.
[21:10:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03pasky [1050] (Score:1) 02Re:New language to common problems - 06New Programming Language Delivers Fourfold Speedups on Problems Common in the Age of Big Data - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:43] <exec> 08└─That may be fine when you are scheduling many threads on a single core and you want to optimize throughput, not latency.
[21:10:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:New language to common problems - 06New Programming Language Delivers Fourfold Speedups on Problems Common in the Age of Big Data - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:48] <exec> 08└─an example would be nice to show where it might benefit. OpenMP is not too hard, but is still quite sensitive to deployment.
[21:11:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Claims exceed the data - 06Researcher Claims to Have Recorded Dolphins Conversing in Sentences - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:24] <exec> 08└─Darmok and Jilad at Tinagra!
[21:11:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Claims exceed the data - 06Researcher Claims to Have Recorded Dolphins Conversing in Sentences - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:26] <exec> 08└─Shaka. When the walls fell.
[21:11:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sure, but... - 06VW Engineer: Entire Design Team In On The Cheat - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:57] <exec> 08└─Must be really cold if it is below 12F continuously for 9 months of the year. Even Barrow Alaska breaks 12F for some part of the day between May and October... Sounds like someone looking for an excuse because they don't want to play nice.
[21:12:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Ya don't say! - 06VW Engineer: Entire Design Team In On The Cheat - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:11] <exec> 08└─Clean Diesel, Clean Coal, Clean Ethanol_fueled, it's all about the same.
[21:12:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fnord666 [652] (Score:2) 02Re:The uneasy truce - 06Ubuntu Torrent Removed for DMCA Violation - 583 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:48] <exec> 08└─What a lot of people miss is or don't know about is 17 USC 512(g)(2)(C) which says that the OSP/ISP must: (C) replaces the removed material and ceases disabling access to it not less than 10, nor more than 14, business days following receipt of the counter notice, unless its designated agent first r...
[21:12:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:The uneasy truce - 06Ubuntu Torrent Removed for DMCA Violation - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:51] <exec> 08└─Force the copyright thugs to go to court and have a judge order the removal of specific data. Maybe this would make it harder for them to enforce their precious monopolies, but that is far better than allowing them to violate our freedoms.
[21:14:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Of course he will veto - 06President Obama to Veto Bill Allowing September 11 Victims to Sue Saudi Arabia - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:22] <exec> 08└─Cant let those pesky Americans sue his buddies.
[21:14:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tangaroa [682] (Score:1) 02Re:Re-write your contract - 06Work-for-Hire Clauses in Employment Agreement - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:57] <exec> 08└─In my case, the changes were accepted without company comment. I did this with two of the big IT labor companies in the USA, and one was a very software-centric company.
[21:15:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02memes - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 586 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:15:29] <exec> 08└─Elephants, Chimpanzees, and killer whales all have memes. Humans aren't so special. Be careful how you judge "well-being". What matters for evolution is not what you might prefer. Squalor is fine, as long as you reproduce and your descendants reproduce. You can be uneducated, malnourished (stunted g...
[21:15:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:barren women - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:15:49] <exec> 08└─How many male leaders have given birth to a child?
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[22:08:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Got your "time" crystals right here - 06Time Crystals Might Exist After All - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:08:17] <exec> 08└─If they do not know how it will look, how can they claim to know what the exhibited characteristics will be to know to look for them?
[22:08:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Quack science hidden behind jargon? - 06Time Crystals Might Exist After All - 1008 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:08:19] <exec> 08└─I am not a physicist, so I'm speaking purely as a layman. However, this doesn't pass the "sniff" test to me, much like perpetual motion machines. I'm prepared to believe that such objects in perpetual motion exist. However, assuming they do and their lowest energy state is one of motion, how would a...
[22:08:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:New language to common problems - 06New Programming Language Delivers Fourfold Speedups on Problems Common in the Age of Big Data - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:08:33] <exec> 08└─Thank God! I though it was going to be another of those "see how great Rust is?" type of articles.
[22:08:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Post-Nihilist [5672] (Score:3, Informative) 02Like to the original article - 06New Programming Language Delivers Fourfold Speedups on Problems Common in the Age of Big Data - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:08:39] <exec> 08└─There is a full text link there: http://dl.acm.org [acm.org] I have not yet read it , but it looks more substantial than the press office communiqué
[22:08:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:Question - 06Researcher Claims to Have Recorded Dolphins Conversing in Sentences - 1213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:08:57] <exec> 08└─Swedish got rid of articles. They just glued them to the end of the noun, like this: "Boken är på bordet" bok = book, bord = table. And I'm still not sure when I have to use the passivum form, so that might be different than in surrounding languages. On thing I wondered: classical Greek and Sanskr...
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[23:07:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02while we're at it.... - 06Sugar Industry Secretly Paid for Favorable Harvard Research in 1960s - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:07:06] <exec> 08└─why is the FDA setting "how much you should stuff your face with" limits? The FDA daily limits are pure fantasy - gathered from data 50 years ago. The sugar bribes are not surprising, but it doesn't stop there. The whole process of lobbying for profit at the cost of public health has to be stopped....
[23:07:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:while we're at it.... - 06Sugar Industry Secretly Paid for Favorable Harvard Research in 1960s - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:07] <exec> 08└─The US Constitution's First Amendment grants the right to petition for redress of grievances. That's the legal basis for lobbying right there.
[23:07:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:while we're at it.... - 06Sugar Industry Secretly Paid for Favorable Harvard Research in 1960s - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:09] <exec> 08└─The US constitution was written by people who assumed that good God-fearing slaveholders would not corrupt their governments to allow themselves to profit from injuring their fellow citizens.
[23:07:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Sweet! - 06Sugar Industry Secretly Paid for Favorable Harvard Research in 1960s - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:07:11] <exec> 08└─So they sugar-coated their research when the sugar industry sweetened the deal.
[23:07:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02What the actual fuck - 06Sugar Industry Secretly Paid for Favorable Harvard Research in 1960s - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:07:13] <exec> 08└─The low-fat, high-sugar diets that health experts subsequently encouraged
[23:07:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:What the actual fuck - 06Sugar Industry Secretly Paid for Favorable Harvard Research in 1960s - 588 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:16] <exec> 08└─that pyramid thing....had carbs on the bottom. It's amazing in 2016 how much dogma there is - I guess that's the problem when school stops at 16/18/.... A nice point made by Ken Robinson on Ted "In the most interactive age of our history, we are pushing kids out by data of manufacture". I'm paraphra...
[23:07:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Got your "time" crystals right here - 06Time Crystals Might Exist After All - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:26] <exec> 08└─If they do not know how it will look, how can they claim to know what the exhibited characteristics will be to know to look for them?
[23:07:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Quack science hidden behind jargon? - 06Time Crystals Might Exist After All - 1008 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:07:28] <exec> 08└─I am not a physicist, so I'm speaking purely as a layman. However, this doesn't pass the "sniff" test to me, much like perpetual motion machines. I'm prepared to believe that such objects in perpetual motion exist. However, assuming they do and their lowest energy state is one of motion, how would a...
[23:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Quack science hidden behind jargon? - 06Time Crystals Might Exist After All - 442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:30] <exec> 08└─Could you extract energy from it? If it's in "the ground state" I doubt it (it can't physically move to a lower-energy state), therefore, you can't really claim it to be perpetual motion. However, back when I made a ham-fisted attempt at trying to learn some physics, I think stuff in the ground stat...
[23:07:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02MRL - 06Time Crystals Might Exist After All - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:07:32] <exec> 08└─a Microsoft research lab
[23:07:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ken [5985] (Score:1) 02Re:MRL - 06Time Crystals Might Exist After All - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:34] <exec> 08└─"...history of flop after flop after flop " Isn't that the idea? The most flops? I mean some things are measured in teraflops, petaflops, etc...
[23:07:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:New language to common problems - 06New Programming Language Delivers Fourfold Speedups on Problems Common in the Age of Big Data - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:47] <exec> 08└─Thank God! I though it was going to be another of those "see how great Rust is?" type of articles.
[23:07:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Post-Nihilist [5672] (Score:3, Informative) 02Like to the original article - 06New Programming Language Delivers Fourfold Speedups on Problems Common in the Age of Big Data - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:07:49] <exec> 08└─There is a full text link there: http://dl.acm.org [acm.org] I have not yet read it , but it looks more substantial than the press office communiqué
[23:08:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Translated... - 06Researcher Claims to Have Recorded Dolphins Conversing in Sentences - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:02] <exec> 08└─TWSS
[23:08:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Question - 06Researcher Claims to Have Recorded Dolphins Conversing in Sentences - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:09] <exec> 08└─Even English sucks. Before you can even refer to someone (his/hers/he/she) you must first, for some reason, determine if the person has a penis or a vagina in their pants. How weird is that?
[23:08:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:Question - 06Researcher Claims to Have Recorded Dolphins Conversing in Sentences - 1213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:13] <exec> 08└─Swedish got rid of articles. They just glued them to the end of the noun, like this: "Boken är på bordet" bok = book, bord = table. And I'm still not sure when I have to use the passivum form, so that might be different than in surrounding languages. On thing I wondered: classical Greek and Sanskr...
[23:08:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Question - 06Researcher Claims to Have Recorded Dolphins Conversing in Sentences - 1114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:15] <exec> 08└─Not linguist either, but since I speak some Asian languages in addition to several European ones, I just chime in to say that Latin is a bad example of your "article-less" language. Chinese and Japanese do fine without articles, and in the case of Chinese, even without "complex" rules to designate s...
[23:08:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Question - 06Researcher Claims to Have Recorded Dolphins Conversing in Sentences - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:18] <exec> 08└─Are there languages without articles?
[23:08:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02OK fine, talking dolphins, whatever! - 06Researcher Claims to Have Recorded Dolphins Conversing in Sentences - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:08:25] <exec> 08└─It don't mean much unless they lead us to the honey [soylentnews.org].
[23:08:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sure, but... - 06VW Engineer: Entire Design Team In On The Cheat - 467 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:42] <exec> 08└─Gugger could not have picked a worse behavior to defend with short-sighted libertarian arguments. Not only is "rolling coal" directly harmful to anyone in the vicinity, it is all just insecure white men feeling emasculated because the world is changing and they aren't able to keep up. Ordinarily t...
[23:08:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ellis D. Tripp [3416] (Score:2) 02Re:Sure, but... - 06VW Engineer: Entire Design Team In On The Cheat - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:49] <exec> 08└─Google "Rolling Coal"... Lots of videos on YouTube of these assholes intentionally spewing clouds at bicyclists, hybrid/EV drivers, people with left wing bumperstickers, etc. Have seen a few of these guys with "Prius Repellent" signs on the truck, pointing to the exhaust pipes.
[23:09:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The uneasy truce - 06Ubuntu Torrent Removed for DMCA Violation - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:24] <exec> 08└─Nice. You blockquote it, so we know it was copied, but you go the extra mile and throw in the sic for good measure. You must be a joy to sit next to at a dinner party.
[23:12:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02facts with ugly implications - 06Bioethicist: Consider Having Fewer Children in the Age of Climate Change - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:12:02] <exec> 08└─You're complaining that my argument has unpleasant social implications, so therefore it must be wrong. This is not how facts work. Essentially, this is the liberal version of the creationist argument: evolution would deny God, so therefore it must be wrong. Your argument is every bit as broken.
[23:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Older solution... - 06Terahertz Imaging System Can "Read" Closed Books - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:25] <exec> 08└─ლ) Dude's gone and poisoned the Romans.
[23:14:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Dead end. - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:25] <exec> 08└─>look sign
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