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[00:07:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Wrong! - 06A Guide to Buying Edible Insects - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:07:00] <exec> 08└─Buying insects??? The one I was looking for is titled A Guide to Getting Paid Very Large Amounts of Money for Briefly Considering the Idea that You Might Deliberately Eat an Insect.
[00:07:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02well, let's see - 06A Guide to Buying Edible Insects - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:07:02] <exec> 08└─I've been curious about bugs for a while. Just ordered a Bug Bistro variety pack from Entomo. A little pricey, but at least worth it once for the novelty. I'm still eagerly awaiting bug burgers. I don't get the “ick.” Bacon++ is supposed to be unclean, too.
[00:07:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:well, let's see - 06A Guide to Buying Edible Insects - 474 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:04] <exec> 08└─Way back in high school, our biology teacher had a extra credit day for eating strange bug meals he brought in. There was some ants, crickets, and grasshoppers, and I think there might have been someone more exotic like spider or something. None of it was bad, though it had more going on for it than...
[00:07:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Turtle-turtle - 06A Guide to Buying Edible Insects - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:07:06] <exec> 08└─I got a small turtle a month back and have started raising mealworms for food for him: once I get a large enough supply, I'm gonna try frying up some worms.
[00:07:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Remember - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:49] <exec> 08└─DuckDuckGo is terrible. I use it as a default, and if guess 40% of the time I end up going to google instead after ddg fails.
[00:07:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Remember - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 733 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:50] <exec> 08└─Hmm, I haven't been terribly impressed with Bing - not as bad as most, but still seems to be 75% irrelevant results. Google seems to usually be the opposite, especially in response to a well-phrased natural language query. >Google was never a good search engine... Clearly you have forgotten Yahoo, E...
[00:07:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Remember - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:54] <exec> 08└─How is it punishing you to flag your website as insecure for allowing the government (and anyone else who cares to) to record exactly what I'm browsing? Now, if they use that as reason to push you down the search results, then yeah, I've got a problem. But I didn't notice any mention of that.
[00:09:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Meanwhile, Cuba has Zika contained - 06Never let a Crisis go to Waste: CDC Using Zika Virus to Expand Authority - 1095 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:10] <exec> 08└─Nearly all the U.S. cases are in Puerto Rico; the CDC predicts that 25% of the Puerto Rican population could contract Zika by the end of this year. http://time.com [time.com] Pedro Albizu Campos agitated for Puerto Rican independence, but was imprisoned. He sai...
[00:09:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Thanks, SN! This is better than StormFront - 06Never let a Crisis go to Waste: CDC Using Zika Virus to Expand Authority - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:09:11] <exec> 08└─Who needs StormFront when you have the new, improved SoylentNews! Keep up the good story submissions, guys. There is such a lack of paranoid right wing websites on the Net right now.
[00:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:Standard prosecutor tactics, at least in the US - 06VW Engineer Pleads Guilty in Diesel Cheating Scandal - 578 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:49] <exec> 08└─Is that a slope you really want to slip down? Sure, you ALWAYS have the option to walk away. Even when it'll cost you your job. Even when it'll cost your family a regular income. Even when your child depends on your employer's health care plan for life-saving treatment. Even when someone has a gun t...
[00:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Murdoc [2518] (Score:2) 02Self focus? - 06Physicists Discover 'Smoke Rings' Made of Laser Light - 511 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:10:05] <exec> 08└─Ok, the STOVs are interesting, certainly, but what's with this: "Powerful laser beams, given the right conditions, will act as their own lenses and "self-focus" into a tighter, even more intense beam." I haven't found any information on that in a quick search. So is it true? And if so, how powerful...
[00:10:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score:2) 02Re:How completely wrong you are! - 06Achieving Universal Broadband: What the FCC Can and Cannot Do - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:51] <exec> 08└─That's some powerful bigotry you have there.
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[01:06:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Morons - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:06:56] <exec> 08└─Thinking multiculturalism is good for France. Nuke Muslims!
[01:07:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:well, let's see - 06A Guide to Buying Edible Insects - 964 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:07:07] <exec> 08└─It's mostly a matter of social norms. It's common to think that eating slugs and snails is weird, but the people who think that often have no problem eating things like scallops and oysters that are relatively closely related. Then there's shrimp which have a rather striking resemblance to many of t...
[01:07:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Softshell crab - 06A Guide to Buying Edible Insects - 552 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:07:10] <exec> 08└─I ate some softshell blue crab, which is supposedly considered a delicacy, and found it terribly overrated. The flavor was a bit bland and there was way too much shell -- it was a bit like eating very soft, thin fingernails. Nah, to be precise, it was exactly like peeling a shrimp and eating the she...
[01:07:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Softshell crab - 06A Guide to Buying Edible Insects - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:07:12] <exec> 08└─The larvae usually have little to no shell.
[01:07:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Softshell crab - 06A Guide to Buying Edible Insects - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:07:14] <exec> 08└─It depends, you'd be surprised how large some insects get. But, the smaller insects you tend to just eat whole or you grind up and put them into things as filler. Or cover them in chocolate.
[01:07:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Sucked - 06Stanford Lectures on Digital Photography Available on Youtube - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:07:23] <exec> 08└─I liked ITT lecture better.
[01:07:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Doesn't matter who you bank with - 06Wells Fargo Fined Over Unauthorized Accounts - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:07:41] <exec> 08└─You think Chase Manhattan Bank in Absurdistan is going to be at all impressed that you have a checking account with Chase Manhattan Retail Banking in Bumfuck NC?
[01:07:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My Wells Fargo Mortgage... - 06Wells Fargo Fined Over Unauthorized Accounts - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:07:46] <exec> 08└─So what if you paid the 67 cents with a normal check? They would send you your note back a month earlier?
[01:07:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Scumbags - 06Wells Fargo Fined Over Unauthorized Accounts - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:07:48] <exec> 08└─If you lived in CA, you'd know that Wells Fargo branch offices are staffed with mindless idiots. Wells Fargo is the ITT of retail/mortgage banking.
[01:07:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Remember - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 119 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:07:57] <exec> 08└─Remember when google was the cool search engine that helped you find things? Instead of trying to hide things from you?
[01:08:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Immerman [3985] 02Re:Remember - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 142 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:08:02] <exec> 08└─Their results are crap? What search engine are you using then? Everything else I've tried makes Google look positively psychic in comparison.
[01:08:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Remember - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:08:07] <exec> 08└─It depends what you're looking for. I find that even just typing in error messages into the major search engines tends to be rather inconsistent. And god help you if you're looking for something more complicated or where there's multiple ways of phrasing it. For all the efforts at making the search...
[01:08:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Remember - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 1944 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:08:10] <exec> 08└─None of the engines were good, hence why Google was able to get a foothold. It was just as bad as the other search engines, but it was fast and had a larger database of sites that were cataloged more frequently. It used to be a bit of a rite of passage going from search engine to search engine and n...
[01:09:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:Department of Education - yep - 06Never let a Crisis go to Waste: CDC Using Zika Virus to Expand Authority - 438 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:09:12] <exec> 08└─From the second link. Federal agents for the Education Department's inspector general executed a very broad search warrant and seized paperwork and a personal computer. Wright says the law enforcement agents -- who reportedly included 13 with the Education Department and one or two Stockton police...
[01:09:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03goody [2135] (Score:2) 02Re:Department of Education - 06Never let a Crisis go to Waste: CDC Using Zika Virus to Expand Authority - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:09:22] <exec> 08└─Perhaps. And if it wasn't on a movie set. I mean, really, how often does this happen in real life? It's more likely that any typical agency that has people in the field performing enforcement are individuals or in groups of two. The chances of them being out-gunned by violator or in a remote area an...
[01:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Thanks, SN! This is better than StormFront - 06Never let a Crisis go to Waste: CDC Using Zika Virus to Expand Authority - 1389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:09:34] <exec> 08└─Paranoia is so Y2K. Is there such a thing as mere paranoia anymore? How many more substantiated conspiracies do you need to learn about before you clue in on the existence of conspiracies run by the rich and powerful? Snowden would have been enough for me. Wikileaks' Cablegate, too. Luckily, we have...
[01:09:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Wanna kill it dead? - 06Never let a Crisis go to Waste: CDC Using Zika Virus to Expand Authority - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:09:35] <exec> 08└─Clarify that since the treatment is involuntary, the Feds are on the hook for any and all costs including room and board and lost wages. That should make sure it will never be invoked.
[01:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02too late for Seung-Hui Cho - 06Alphabet/Google-Chipotle-Virginia Tech Burrito Delivery by Drone - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:09:52] <exec> 08└─He could have gotten his jollies by shooting at quadcopters instead of at students.
[01:12:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:My son's DNA was the Usain Bolt of DNA - 06Measuring Forces in the DNA Molecule - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:12:10] <exec> 08└─Bummer, I got a redundant. Was aiming for a funny, an insightful would have been awesome.
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[02:07:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Love Uncle Big Brother Sam! - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:07:03] <exec> 08└─It's that day of the year again. Pledge Allegiance to Obama's Anus or your an Illegal Terrist! USA! USA! USA #1 FOREVER!!!!!!!!
[02:07:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03XivLacuna [6346] (Score:1, Troll) 02Re:Morons - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 722 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:11] <exec> 08└─Moslems are a symptom of a (((problem))). Treat the (((problem))) and the symptoms will fade away. Jews push multiculturalism on every white nation but don't really put their backing into flooding Israel with diversity. Jew-owned media agitates non-whites to attack whites even though life in white n...
[02:07:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Bring back Hitler Youth - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:07:13] <exec> 08└─Teens want something to belong to!
[02:07:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02" What's in the can?" - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:07:16] <exec> 08└─From the picture in the Sky News link, it looks to be propane or compressed natural gas. Add a bit of oxygen and a detonator and you have a really big boom.
[02:07:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:" What's in the can?" - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 823 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:18] <exec> 08└─Propane kinda sucks. Ever see that episode where the Myth Busters set a rigged tank on a propane burner with a weakened bottom to make a rocket? As soon as it burst, the pressure wave of the boiling propane extinguished the flame before the gas could ignite. And you also have to mix the two pretty g...
[02:07:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:well, let's see - 06A Guide to Buying Edible Insects - 699 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:30] <exec> 08└─Heh, social norms. Social norms deprive people of delicious garden burgers (avoiding the one that try to be meat because those suck), which aren't particularly healthy vs. meat but imo delicious. I was mostly thinking of the fact that bugs tend to carry disease as would the foods proscribed by the O...
[02:07:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score:2) 02More iron than spinach? - 06A Guide to Buying Edible Insects - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:07:35] <exec> 08└─That's not all that hard, seeing as it's actually only a 10th of the commonly accepted amount. See e.g. http://www.dailymail.co.uk [dailymail.co.uk]
[02:07:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sucked - 06Stanford Lectures on Digital Photography Available on Youtube - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:45] <exec> 08└─Too bad. This is what the Department of Education will let you have. Refusal to comply and you will be killed by Educational SWAT.
[02:08:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:Remember - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:08:31] <exec> 08└─Mostly because my homepage is about as relevant to confidentiality as a newspaper article.
[02:08:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Remember - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:08:32] <exec> 08└─Now, if they use that as reason to push you down the search results, then yeah, I've got a problem. But I didn't notice any mention of that.
[02:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The War on Kids - 06Never let a Crisis go to Waste: CDC Using Zika Virus to Expand Authority - 1187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:09:45] <exec> 08└─Includes documentary footage of armed officers forcing all kids to ground: http://thewaronkids.com [thewaronkids.com] The general issues -- school is prison: http://www.salon.com [salon.com] Although in general childhood has changed so much where...
[02:11:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:More evidence the EU is dying! - 06Italy's Supreme Court Rules Public Masturbation Not a Crime - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:11:18] <exec> 08└─> It would make far more sense to provide those folks with some actual treatment [...] There's no reason for people masturbating in public [...] You catch a homeless person masturbates in a public restroom, and you send him/her to psychiatrists at, I presume, the state's expense, so that you won't b...
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[03:07:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Re:Love Uncle Big Brother Sam! - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:05] <exec> 08└─Let me guess, a jew stole your girlfriend...
[03:07:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Love Uncle Big Brother Sam! - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:07] <exec> 08└─A lesbian jew stole his girlfriend.
[03:07:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Love Uncle Big Brother Sam! - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:09] <exec> 08└─After all, the evil Jew gf X is one of the Xes that Ethanol needs to defeat. Can Ethanol defeat all 7 evil Xes?
[03:07:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Love Uncle Big Brother Sam! - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:11] <exec> 08└─If you wanted to get it right, you should have left it as the flag instead of Obamas Anus. Because it wont be his anus for long until we have a new crusted balloon knot in office. And the same phony 9-11 patriotism will be rammed down your throat under their stint. It's so tiresome that it almost ma...
[03:07:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Love Uncle Big Brother Sam! - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:13] <exec> 08└─You are mistaken, friend. We have always pledged allegiance to Obama's Anus.
[03:07:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02WTC focus vs the rest - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:07:16] <exec> 08└─Around here, the local TVs and web news seem focused in the the twin towers, barely mentioning other WTC buildings. And nothing about Pentagon or the other airplane. Videos and pictures of airplanes hitting the towers and creating holes bigger than them, towers collapsing, people running, people dig...
[03:07:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score:2) 02Re:WTC focus vs the rest - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:18] <exec> 08└─Any idea? Simplication to keep the drums going?
[03:07:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mykl [1112] (Score:2) 02How about a nice game of Chess? - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:07:20] <exec> 08└─All I could think of while reading this article was War Games: http://www.imdb.com [imdb.com] Sounds like the top brass need to run a few more drills on this little process!
[03:07:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Was Bin Laden that crafty? - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:07:22] <exec> 08└─To time the attacks during the mutual nuclear war exercises? If ever there was an opportunity for mis-communication to escalate, that would be it. We can hope that everyone has learned from the experience and next time they'll do better.
[03:07:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Was Bin Laden that crafty? - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:24] <exec> 08└─Of course he was, because Bush did it all along. Bush Laden deliberately planned the attack during war games, and Bush Laden deliberately planned to be reading to children, so Bush Laden could play dumb when he was supposedly told about the attack.
[03:07:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Morons - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:34] <exec> 08└─Score:-1, Gay
[03:07:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03XivLacuna [6346] (Score:1, Troll) 02Re:Morons - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 697 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:36] <exec> 08└─Score: -1, can't refute so resort to name calling Seriously guys, jews push to open up immigration laws because they dislike homogenous nations that aren't jewish. It is easier for them to hide their activities if there are some brown fellows blowing up our stuff for Allah. People like Ethanol go "O...
[03:07:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Morons - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:39] <exec> 08└─Israel isn't even an all Jewish nation. I'd call you a racist, but Judaism isn't a race as such, so bigot will have to do. Looks like you've got some fellow bigots modding you up at least.
[03:07:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Morons - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 825 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:41] <exec> 08└─I think it's time we looked into (((XivLacuna's))) account and see what we can find..... Oh look, a link to this little shit nugget: http://www.dailystormer.com [dailystormer.com] GAY. Fucking FAGGOT shit is what that site is. I bet you got/get beat up by 40kg asian girls in high school. I bet they...
[03:07:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03XivLacuna [6346] (Score:1) 02Re:Morons - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 679 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:43] <exec> 08└─Wow just wow in current year. If you actually read the Daily Stormer and weren't all ignorant, you'd find it often makes fun of how the Jewish-owned media pushes Milo who is a gay jew as the leader of the alt-right movement. They certainly tried to install him as it but the alt-right doesn't have le...
[03:07:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:Morons - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:45] <exec> 08└─Personally, I'd like to say fuck gay Jews. I've read some of Milo's shit. It's shit! Consider that the Jews invented routine male genital mutilation. I hate to be all anti-Semitic, but I curse the Jews every morning I need to cover my glans, as it was created initially with the organ they amputated...
[03:07:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Keep letting them in. - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 1611 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:07:50] <exec> 08└─I think it's time europe calls it quits and surrenders to the moslems. They might as well seeing how well multiculturalism worked out for them and let in millions of these backwards savages. Their stupid white women jump on those hairy brown animals with impunity. Meanwhile the second class moslem w...
[03:08:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score:2) 02Re:Turtle-turtle - 06A Guide to Buying Edible Insects - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:04] <exec> 08└─Turtle soup is supposed to be pretty good too.
[03:08:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score:2) 02Re:Softshell crab - 06A Guide to Buying Edible Insects - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:08] <exec> 08└─Humans have been eating insects for a very long time. You have enzymes to digest chitin. That shell is part of the "70% protein".
[03:08:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Can I get one without formic acid? - 06A Guide to Buying Edible Insects - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:08:11] <exec> 08└─I accidentally ingested a carpenter ant that had crawled inside a can of Coke - that was quite a shocking experience, first the blasting spit reflex from the acid as it hit my tongue, then the pokey - crawly sensation of the legs registering. 9.9/10 would recommend as a "gag joke" on someone you hat...
[03:08:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My Wells Fargo Mortgage... - 06Wells Fargo Fined Over Unauthorized Accounts - 821 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:44] <exec> 08└─There is a law that specifies you need to have proof of final funds for a mortgage. A friend of mine had a similar situation where he paid off his mortgage by rolling the final two payments together. They ended up sending him back a check for the difference in interest such that it left his balance...
[03:09:12] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Why Would They Do Something Like That? - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 1178 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:12] <exec> 08└─I guess my problem is that I don't want google to force people like me, with a webserver and such as a hobby, from scaring away everyone with my self-signed certificate because I know how to do things but am being punished because of that, as opposed to those that let someone else do the work becaus...
[03:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:Dupe - 06California Enacts New Greenhouse Gas Law - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:40] <exec> 08└─Rather more interesting is state debt: http://www.usgovernmentspending.com [usgovernmentspending.com] and I vaguely recall that CA's credit rating had sunk to "C".
[03:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Department of Education - 06Never let a Crisis go to Waste: CDC Using Zika Virus to Expand Authority - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:20] <exec> 08└─The same FDA inspector that inspected our medical device design and manufacturing facility had just come from a grocery store inspection across the street - a Colombian grocery store that was receiving soda cans filled with cocaine. He apologized for the gun when he remembered he still had it on and...
[03:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03goody [2135] (Score:2) 02Re:Department of Education - 06Never let a Crisis go to Waste: CDC Using Zika Virus to Expand Authority - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:22] <exec> 08└─Wow. That's nuts. I don't have any problem with that agent being armed. Hell, give the guy a semi-automatic rifle.
[03:11:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Techwolf [87] (Score:2) 02And still.... - 06VW Engineer Pleads Guilty in Diesel Cheating Scandal - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:11:18] <exec> 08└─NO ONE has tested the "cheating" ones vs. the "fix" ones to see if the pollution level are in fact higher or actually lower due to increased fuel mileage, hence lower pollution total out the tail pipe.
[03:13:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Hillary Did it! - 06Report: Wikileaks' Syria Docs Exclude Email On $2B Transfer To Russian Bank - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:13:03] <exec> 08└─There's a conspiracy theorist right here on SoylentNews! [soylentnews.org]
[03:13:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:crazy regulations - 06First Cannabis Retail Licenses Approved by Alaska's Marijuana Control Board - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:13:50] <exec> 08└─Stop giving them ideas.
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[04:07:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Has Communism worked anywhere? - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 492 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:07:10] <exec> 08└─I don't think it has. East Germany did passably well, allegedly because of the hardworking nature of the German people, but even they fell well behind their western counterpart. The rest of the Soviet empire tanked. So did Cuba and Venezuela. North Korea is an abomination. China is still offically c...
[04:07:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Has Communism worked anywhere? - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 987 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:12] <exec> 08└─http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2413 [smbc-comics.com] Transcript because you won't follow the link: Jesus: "Give all that you have to the poor!" 5 years later... Jesus: "So how'd it go?" Man: "Well, we did as you said and gave our food to the poor for free. That caused the poor's...
[04:07:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Has Communism worked anywhere? - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:14] <exec> 08└─Better question: Has Communism ever existed? Answer: Nope. Communism: A way to dupe the people into accepting a totalitarian dictatorship.
[04:07:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Has Communism worked anywhere? - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:16] <exec> 08└─I think when you have something that's been tried in well over a dozen totally different societies dominated by people of different races, and you get similar results in all of these attempts, that means that either the theory is wrong, or it just can't be implemented properly by H. sapiens. Maybe b...
[04:07:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Has Communism worked anywhere? - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:18] <exec> 08└─In this case where does the ~2.2 million dollars per year come from?
[04:07:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03quintessence [6227] (Score:2) 02Re:Love Uncle Big Brother Sam! - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 570 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:30] <exec> 08└─Well, looking back at who benefited the most from 9/11, Israel is certainly at the top of the list. So is war spending and defense contractors, trailing down to warhawk fascists. And it is odd that approaching two decades later, we are still feeling the reverberations. Even WWII didn't have as much...
[04:07:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:WTC focus vs the rest - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 815 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:36] <exec> 08└─About 87% of the victims were in or around the WTC, not counting people and hijackers on the planes. There's also a lot more video footage of the WTC attacks than the Pentagon, including obviously, good coverage of the second plane. Also, people watching the news that day were watching continuous fo...
[04:07:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Was Bin Laden that crafty? - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 497 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:41] <exec> 08└─Despite what the article said, that the "Global Guardian" exercise was happening was not a secret and was a well known thing among those who have been looking at the 9/11 stuff. It's one of the things the 9/11 conspiracy theorists go on about e.g. the US military is holding a military exercise and y...
[04:07:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Was Bin Laden that crafty? - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 524 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:43] <exec> 08└─Maybe the so-called 9-11 attacks weren't a conspiracy. Maybe they weren't even attacks. We were warned that computers everywhere would malfunction, starting one billion seconds from the beginning of the UNIX epoch: 01:46:40 UTC on Sunday, 9 September 2001. Many ignored the warnings, and continue to...
[04:07:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Was Bin Laden that crafty? - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 747 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:45] <exec> 08└─War exercises aren't exactly uncommon, right? Coincidence detected. I find it more interesting that the FBI was facing budget cuts [historycommons.org] in the months prior to 9/11 (I had remembered something about FBI downsizing or funding rejection specifically on Sept. 10, 2001, but it took a whil...
[04:07:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Was Bin Laden that crafty? - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:47] <exec> 08└─EXACTLY!!!! I still don't believe those buildings could have come down in their own footprint like that: definitely agree with the engineers for 9/11 truth. http://www.ae911truth.org [ae911truth.org]
[04:07:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Was Bin Laden that crafty? - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:49] <exec> 08└─steel memes
[04:07:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''low on fuel'' - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:07:51] <exec> 08└─Don't know how that one made the list. Air Force One, like essentially every USAF aircraft can do air-to-air refueling [wordpress.com] and can stay airborne until the pilot|flight crew is exhausted. -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
[04:08:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03XivLacuna [6346] (Score:1) 02Re:Morons - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 529 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:08:04] <exec> 08└─Judaism is the religion of self-worship of the Jewish people. They are a race. They are all 5th to 6th cousins. DNA research backs up that jews are an identifiable race. Infact Israel is doing DNA tests for aliyah from Russia in order to make sure those coming in are genetically jewish. So go ahead...
[04:08:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Morons - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 437 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:08:05] <exec> 08└─Score: -1, You wont do shit. Youre completely incapable. Seriously guys, jews push to open up immigration laws because they dislike homogenous nations that aren't jewish. It is easier for them to hide their activities if there are some brown fellows blowing up our stuff for Allah. People like Ethano...
[04:08:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Morons - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 732 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:08:10] <exec> 08└─HAHAHA! (((XivLacuna))) is trying to project his self hating gay jew guilt on me. Me. Someone who gives zero fucks about self hating jews such as (((XivLacuna))). Go back to your gay little weakling circle jerk forum where you stroke each others egos so you feel better about living in your single fa...
[04:08:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03XivLacuna [6346] (Score:1) 02Re:Morons - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 682 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:08:12] <exec> 08└─Yes mister anonymousbergstein, keep telling people to do something that'll get law enforcement to act upon them. Telling people about the jewish problem online does more good than petty vandalism or physical assault of some jew who'll just have his (((lawyers))) sue me for any shekels he can get. "O...
[04:08:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Morons - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:08:15] <exec> 08└─We don't banhammer. We just like laughing at weaklings like (((XivLacuna))).
[04:08:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03XivLacuna [6346] (Score:1) 02Re:Morons - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:08:17] <exec> 08└─My anonymous posting ability got banhammered for excessive bad posting. So for now I post with a nick.
[04:08:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Morons - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 609 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:08:19] <exec> 08└─You know what your problem is? You let the jews win. Yup. Instead of working your ass off to defeat them on the real battle field, the money battle field, you choose to sit and post memes in worthless forums. Thats right. You let them aquire more and more wealth. You take the easy way out and try to...
[04:08:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:" What's in the can?" - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:08:24] <exec> 08└─If you want to use diesel, why not go bigger than a car? [wikipedia.org]
[04:08:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03SpockLogic [2762] (Score:2) 02Find the Time ... - 06Stanford Lectures on Digital Photography Available on Youtube - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:08:56] <exec> 08└─Thanks, now all I have to do is find the time to watch them ...
[04:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Its deja-vu all over again - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:09:48] <exec> 08└─it seems like a way to train people to ignore red triangles.
[04:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Static content - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:10:01] <exec> 08└─I see no reason to flag static content as insecure. But maybe the article wasn't quite accurate on Google's future intentions.
[04:11:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Meanwhile, Cuba has Zika contained - 06Never let a Crisis go to Waste: CDC Using Zika Virus to Expand Authority - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:11:13] <exec> 08└─Maybe Cuba's success against Zika will become an inspiration and the people of Puerto Rico will finally throw off the chains of capitalism. Amen. If I hadn't spotted that by the time I got to the end of your comment, I was going to add it. I would have said "colonialism", but, yeah. -- OriginalOwner...
[04:12:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And still.... - 06VW Engineer Pleads Guilty in Diesel Cheating Scandal - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:12:01] <exec> 08└─Fuck you nazi shill.
[04:12:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Question - 06VW Engineer Pleads Guilty in Diesel Cheating Scandal - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:12:02] <exec> 08└─Do you get paid to post idiotic bullshit, or is it just a personal hobby?
[04:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Evolution in action - 06Giraffe Sub-Species Are Actually Different Species - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:25] <exec> 08└─what's the point of assuming his existence?
[04:15:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02cancer research prank - 06"Cancer Moonshot" Releases Blue Ribbon Panel Report - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:15:06] <exec> 08└─When Science magazine sent a made-up cancer study to 304 journals, 157 accepted it for publication. http://news.nationalgeographic.com [nationalgeographic.com]
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[05:07:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Has Communism worked anywhere? - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:07:14] <exec> 08└─Communism requires totalitarianism. How else are you going to get people to give away the fruits of their labor?
[05:07:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03quintessence [6227] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Has Communism worked anywhere? - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:07:16] <exec> 08└─Depending upon how it is implemented, BI can range from communism to welfare. In Kenya, it is probably closer to the former, as the amount of corruption and lack of economic development means there isn't enough to invest. Even Hayek conceded you need some type of safety-net for capitalism to work, a...
[05:07:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Has Communism worked anywhere? - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:07:18] <exec> 08└─So Marx had some interesting ideas but he was wrong.
[05:07:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Has Communism worked anywhere? - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:07:20] <exec> 08└─Offshoring and automation are just demonstrating how radicalized capitalist extremism doesn't work either.
[05:07:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:WTC focus vs the rest - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:07:37] <exec> 08└─The pilot who followed protocol to shoot that plane down died of a heart attack a week after saying so in an interview. But don't take my word for it; do your own research and come to your own conclusions.
[05:08:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Its Not His Fault - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:08:10] <exec> 08└─He doesn't let them win. He's too inferior to ever win no matter how hard he tries. The laconic dicklick is just another ashy genetic reject from an inferior race. Fortunately cucks like him don't get to breed so his gene line is a dead end.
[05:08:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:" What's in the can?" - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:08:15] <exec> 08└─> They're thankfully doing it all wrong. If you want an explosion, you have to start with a really good oxidizer. Actually... You have to start with a detonator. And they didn't have one. They just parked a car full (?) of propane tanks next to a cathedral and left it there. Which makes you wonder W...
[05:08:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:" What's in the can?" - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:08:17] <exec> 08└─It sounds like they were setup for failure by government agents looking to smoke out potential extremists. Lure them in, give them bad instructions so nothing bad happens, and make your arrests after the failed "attack".
[05:08:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:" What's in the can?" - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 507 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:08:20] <exec> 08└─I really can't see the government trying to sell them on such an obviously foolish plan. Its the kind of thing that 10 minutes with google would have ruined. My guess is that the people who did it felt rushed and when they couldn't get all the necessary components they decided to "make do" with what...
[05:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:you know the drill - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:09:51] <exec> 08└─Captive portals are a broken concept anyway... but then again, mobile devices, at least, special-case them. I assume recent desktop OSes probably do, too (although I haven't used a laptop on a connection with a captive portal in a while).
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[06:07:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fuck Google - 06Researchers Demonstrate "WaveNet" Neural Network, Claim Large Improvements in TTS - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:07:05] <exec> 08└─I don't need any "this is Google calling" robots telling me to turn off my adblocker and accept tech support for problems I don't even have.
[06:07:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimtheowl [5929] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck Google - 06Researchers Demonstrate "WaveNet" Neural Network, Claim Large Improvements in TTS - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:07:07] <exec> 08└─No idea what you are ranting about. Are you running Windows by any chance?
[06:07:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fuck Google - 06Researchers Demonstrate "WaveNet" Neural Network, Claim Large Improvements in TTS - 524 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:07:09] <exec> 08└─OK, dumbfuck, let me spell it out for you. Right now, Indians in call centers cold-call people and claim to be "Windows calling" and try to convince idiots to install malware on their computers. Convincing voice synthesis can remove the need for the living Indian person, and make cold-call malware s...
[06:07:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:Has Communism worked anywhere? - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:07:22] <exec> 08└─Communism requires totalitarianism. How else are you going to get people to give away the fruits of their labor?
[06:07:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Colonialism ruins Everything - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 518 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:07:27] <exec> 08└─Why do Kenyans even need basic income? They live in Africa where the climate produces free food literally growing on trees, countryside teeming with wildlife just waiting to be butchered, free rain from the sky. Oh right. Europeans barged in and taught Africans to be greedy selfish assholes and hoar...
[06:07:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Misguided - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:07:29] <exec> 08└─all in an effort to reduce poverty.
[06:07:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Don't screw it up... - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 563 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:07:31] <exec> 08└─Basic income is about humanity saying that no one should starve or be homeless for lack of money. It is actually a pretty great method that allows individuals to work within the free market. Now, how well this will work in a given area is very debatable, and basic income isn't supposed to magically...
[06:07:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't screw it up... - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:07:33] <exec> 08└─But rich successful thought-leaders really believe unsuccessful losers deserve to die. How are the homeless going to starve to death if someone gives them free money.
[06:08:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03ese002 [5306] (Score:2) 02Are there any that actually taste good? - 06A Guide to Buying Edible Insects - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:08:52] <exec> 08└─And by tasting good, I mean without being drenched in salt and spices so thick that all you can really taste are the salt and spices like one of the local Mexican restaurants serves.
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[07:07:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Has Communism worked anywhere? - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:28] <exec> 08└─It works well for the rich. Automated production, control of resources, high recycling = pure profit.
[07:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Has Communism worked anywhere? - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:29] <exec> 08└─Miss the point! Miss it! Totalitarianism works for the ruling class, too, until it doesn't. The USSR didn't even last a century before it collapsed.
[07:07:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Has Communism worked anywhere? - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:31] <exec> 08└─> It works well for the rich. For a while. Long term they are going to need to figure out how to automate police oppression. They are working on it though: software based sentencing [propublica.org], predictive policing [mic.com], etc)
[07:07:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03julian [6003] (Score:2) 02Re:Misguided - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:36] <exec> 08└─It's literally the definition of poverty. You're making the (important) point that poor people are poor in other ways, not just money. They can be poor in time, social capital, education, and pro-social acculturation. Money often is the base of the poverty pyramid, and makes attaining the other thin...
[07:07:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02If only there was a way to get the money first... - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:40] <exec> 08└─I have no problem with the idea of BI in theory. What I have yet to hear is how a government might get that money in practice. Someone has to pay it in taxes. Who and how? As for the Nigerian experiment... sure. Go nuts.
[07:07:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Love Uncle Big Brother Sam! - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:52] <exec> 08└─> Let me guess, a jew stole your girlfriend... A jewish girl bitch-slapped him for drunkenly groping her.
[07:08:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WTC focus vs the rest - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 502 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:00] <exec> 08└─> Any idea? Simplication to keep the drums going? Because there is practically no footage of all the other sites. WTC hits, collapse and rebuild have tons and tons of video to pick from. It does not take a conspiracy to explain why the proportions of coverage are equal to the proportions of availabl...
[07:09:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Softshell crab - 06A Guide to Buying Edible Insects - 617 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:00] <exec> 08└─US folk have probably been eating tiny amounts of insects in peanut butter and similar, along with other arthropods (esp mites). FWIW I actually do _like_ Thai style fried silkworm pupae: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] A friend and I have agreed that we miss eating it some...
[07:09:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Softshell crab - 06A Guide to Buying Edible Insects - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:01] <exec> 08└─The first video isn't the sort I ate, but I can't find better videos (it looks similar but the video one appears to boiled). The one I had was deep fried, then had seasoning sprayed on it and mixed with some green leaf (curry leaf?).
[07:09:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Are there any that actually taste good? - 06A Guide to Buying Edible Insects - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:06] <exec> 08└─Best way to eat bugs is to get them as ground up powder [thailandunique.com] and use it in a recipe like cookies or bread. There is no ick factor, if you didn't cook it yourself you'd never even know.
[07:09:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"the camera as a computing platform" - 06Stanford Lectures on Digital Photography Available on Youtube - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:16] <exec> 08└─Probably. After all Doom has been ported to at least one camera: http://itrunsdoom.tumblr.com [tumblr.com]
[07:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Doesn't matter who you bank with - 06Wells Fargo Fined Over Unauthorized Accounts - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:34] <exec> 08└─The guy's problem is that he thinks he's a genius with great insight, but his analysis is high-school level, or at best college freshman level. Its so pedantically reductive.
[07:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Remember - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:08] <exec> 08└─Your ISP’s script injection with a 0-day exploit on the other hand...
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[08:07:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Asset tags for people? - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:07:02] <exec> 08└─Human resources finally fitted the cattle with cow bells?
[08:07:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Of Course Not - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:07:04] <exec> 08└─But Humanyze says it doesn't record the content of what people say, just how they say it.
[08:07:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02newspeak - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:07:06] <exec> 08└─The company is called "Humanyze"... seriously? "Dehumanise" would be far more appropriate. (Although; that being said; I'd be interested in seeing my own analysis - providing it was my own system. I'd never consent to it if someone else held the keys.)
[08:07:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02hardly a badge - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:07:08] <exec> 08└─If you actually look at the damned thing, it's about the size of a smartphone... except it's thicker and likely heavier. But Humanyze says it doesn't record the content of what people say, just how they say it.
[08:07:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Nope - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:07:10] <exec> 08└─This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work
[08:07:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fuck Google - 06Researchers Demonstrate "WaveNet" Neural Network, Claim Large Improvements in TTS - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:21] <exec> 08└─I think these samples must sound a bit too much like your ex-wife ?
[08:07:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03zugedneb [4556] (Score:1) 02missing the point, eh? - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 494 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:36] <exec> 08└─Role of the communist totalitarian regime was 2 things: 1. prevent the people form revolting in an area of generations old ethnic conflict 2. get seriously frightened by USA dropping 2 atomic bombs on japan, and seriously believe that hell is coming. A point I could raise is that these heroic capita...
[08:07:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02mhajicek uses words he doesn't understand - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 1157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:37] <exec> 08└─You have no idea what you are taking about (but you clearly -have- done an excellent job of swallowing lots of Cold War bullshit). Communism and Totalitarianism are complete OPPOSITES. (We're running into the DPRK thing again.) When Socialism (AKA Democracy EVERYWHERE) has reached its ultimate stage...
[08:07:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03UncleSlacky [2859] (Score:1) 02Re:If only there was a way to get the money first. - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:50] <exec> 08└─Fiat currencies don't real?
[08:07:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Re:If only there was a way to get the money first. - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 827 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:52] <exec> 08└─At least in a developed country, the money should come from: (a) raising taxes - anybody on a decent wage should be paying back the basic income in new tax. Plus business taxes - currently many businesses are being stealthily subsidised by the government's welfare payments to low-income workers, ena...
[08:08:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bring back Hitler Youth - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:08:47] <exec> 08└─Seems we are up to user 6346! Can't really say it is an improvement, we already had too many Nazis.
[08:09:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bank robbery vs Customer robbery - 06Wells Fargo Fined Over Unauthorized Accounts - 1472 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:42] <exec> 08└─You're practically begging the question. How would regulating the bankers destroy the economy? If you start jailing the bankers responsible, they'd start behaving better and it wouldn't destroy the economy at all (same goes for misbehaving large corporations, it's time to pierce the corporate veil m...
[08:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bank robbery vs Customer robbery - 06Wells Fargo Fined Over Unauthorized Accounts - 438 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:43] <exec> 08└─Indeed. I work in a different industry but a few years ago I worked in a department where the boss routinely ordered underlings to do illegal things. Any time he approached me with such a request I asked him to "remind" me via email and the email never came so I just ignored such orders and somebody...
[08:09:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My Wells Fargo Mortgage... - 06Wells Fargo Fined Over Unauthorized Accounts - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:00] <exec> 08└─What if you accidentally paid them 68 cents? Can you ask for your 1 cent back in check form? ;)
[08:10:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] 02Re:Remember - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 339 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:13] <exec> 08└─Google is using its massive power to push and punish sites based not on the information relevant to the user's query but according to Google's concept of what's a good site or bad site. Mostly this has been good, but could easily lead to framing of information and events. They are the largest gateke...
[08:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Remember - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:20] <exec> 08└─For a proper judgement/comparison you should then switch to using Google by default and seeing what percentage it fails and switch to ddg if Google fails to see if ddg does better.
[08:10:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Remember - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:24] <exec> 08└─Google was never a good search engine it was fast and had a larger index
[08:10:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Remember - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:26] <exec> 08└─I stopped using their search engine years ago because the results are crap
[08:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Remember - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:34] <exec> 08└─You're right that this is unrelated, but they've been using HTTPS as a factor in search rankings for a little over two years now.
[08:14:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Vince Foster was different - 06Report: Wikileaks' Syria Docs Exclude Email On $2B Transfer To Russian Bank - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:36] <exec> 08└─That's how cointelpro stuff works. http://www.zerohedge.com [zerohedge.com]
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[09:07:07] <exec> 08└─Well, they named it with a mutilation of "Humanize" — I think it's an apt name.
[09:07:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nope - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:07:11] <exec> 08└─You're fired.
[09:07:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02A question... - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:07:13] <exec> 08└─Is he being fired for what he just said, or simply how he said it?
[09:07:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A question... - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:07:15] <exec> 08└─His emphasized typing endangered the keyboard.
[09:07:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:Nope - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:07:17] <exec> 08└─Wouldn't they notice it, that the janitor now wears an enormous amount of "bling" around his neck all day, looks very smug, and occasionally talks to himself in a relaxed, business-like tone?
[09:07:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Nope - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:07:19] <exec> 08└─It was a dig at the clickbait nature of the headline, but everyone seems to think I meant something else.
[09:07:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Shocked I say - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:07:22] <exec> 08└─I'm shocked, shocked I say, that deHumanyze hasn't yet developed the functionality to pass a harmless but invigorating electric current through the esteemed employee's neck, whenever their rest/talk behaviour pattern falls outside 2 sigma of the company's optimal profile (as determined by management...
[09:07:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fuck Google - 06Researchers Demonstrate "WaveNet" Neural Network, Claim Large Improvements in TTS - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:07:32] <exec> 08└─Right now, Indians in call centers cold-call people and claim to be "Windows calling" and try to convince idiots to install malware on their computers.
[09:07:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Has Communism worked anywhere? - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 477 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:07:42] <exec> 08└─While the comic indeed shows a problem with naive help, it itself is naive, too, as it doesn't consider the crucial question: Where do the food and clothes come from which were gifted to the poor? If you buy them on their markets you won't crash their markets. If you buy them on other markets, you'l...
[09:07:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Has Communism worked anywhere? - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 705 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:07:47] <exec> 08└─Actually, nobody ever tried to implement communism, not even the "communist" states. What they officially implemented was socialism. And of course, Marx didn't actually claim that socialism would not eventually fail. Indeed, he predicted that it would eventually fail, and there would be a revolution...
[09:07:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Z-A,z-a,01234 [5873] (Score:1) 02Re:Has Communism worked anywhere? - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 479 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:07:54] <exec> 08└─In Romania during the communist period we've had our share of bad things, but there were a LOT of good things: - close to full employment - full spectrum industry - infrastructure for agriculture (irrigation systems & stuff) - free education and health services - the inequality was low and the "rich...
[09:08:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02''Lack of democracy will screw up any system'' - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 1344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:08:02] <exec> 08└─FINALLY, someone among this band of the obtuse understands STEP 1. Marx's criticism of capitalism was largely correct Thomas Piketty, in his recent 696-page book analyzing 250 years of Capitalism, says Marx wasn't wrong anywhere that it counts. The way Oligarchy develops from Capitalism and how The...
[09:08:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Has Communism worked anywhere? - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 1260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:08:04] <exec> 08└─It's probably a bad idea to conflate offshoring and automation. Offshoring has a temporary effect. Capital moves from a rich country to a poor country. Eventually, you reach an equilibrium and as the poor country becomes richer it fills up with people wanting to buy things, increasing the total dema...
[09:08:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Z-A,z-a,01234 [5873] (Score:1) 02Re:If only there was a way to get the money first. - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 606 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:08:14] <exec> 08└─Like most other people you are not aware of the mechanisms of money creation. Most people believe that there is a fixed amount or something and you need to get the money "back" somehow. While this might have been true in the middle ages, it is no longer the case (maybe 200yrs already). Money is crea...
[09:08:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03loic [5844] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Universal income VS. universal salary - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 1046 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:08:16] <exec> 08└─I think that universal income is not that good. First, it has a naming problem; it feels like it is raining money and that is not the point. So Let's name this universal salary. So now, you may begin to see the point. Many non money-making jobs are by definition ingrate and treated as secondary. Tak...
[09:08:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Nah... - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:08:30] <exec> 08└─A Jewish girl bore him a son, who has chosen to follow the Jewish faith. As a result all his Aryan bros are calling him a Jew's gigalo, and now he can't get even their respect.
[09:09:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02Re:Morons - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:09:11] <exec> 08└─Don't you get it you idiot? ISIS wants you to defend your family and country. I'll never understand how you racists are so dumb that you always play right into the hands of radical athiests.
[09:11:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score:2) 02Re:bullshit - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:11:05] <exec> 08└─On the last version of real Opera (12.whatever) I am starting to see sites that refuse to connect. "Fatal Error: Unable to Establish Secure Connection." I assume this has something to do with the HTTPS fad.
[09:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02Duh. - 06Physicists Discover 'Smoke Rings' Made of Laser Light - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:13:24] <exec> 08└─Obviously these "scientists" have never been to Japan and watched martial artists fight - whenever they shoot ki energy out of their palms some form of rings or beams always form around the core.
[09:13:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Defining deviency down again - 06Italy's Supreme Court Rules Public Masturbation Not a Crime - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:13:57] <exec> 08└─jaywalking - lol. That isn't even a thing in most of Europe.
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[10:07:14] <exec> 08└─With doubleplus love from the department of love at Humanyze.
[10:07:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Farts, Security, and Ads - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:07:18] <exec> 08└─The beacons tracking your movements are omitted from bathroom locations, to give you some privacy.
[10:07:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Persuasive TTS subliminal messages? - 06Researchers Demonstrate "WaveNet" Neural Network, Claim Large Improvements in TTS - 562 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:07:30] <exec> 08└─I am interested to know if their TTS engine also brainwashes you with subliminal messages added to the speech. These subliminal messages will be hard to detect (by experts) and predictably easy to be called innocent NN mistakes. The TTS will detect if its being tested for subliminal messages or it i...
[10:07:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Wrong and wrong again - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 696 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:07:45] <exec> 08└─[Marx] considered capitalism a necessary step towards socialism Nope. He acknowledged its existence. He never conceded that the greed and exploitation of Capitalism was necessary. He considered socialism as necessary step towards communism That part you got right. [Marx] predicted that [Socialism] w...
[10:07:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:''Lack of democracy will screw up any system'' - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:07:59] <exec> 08└─As you are plying the benefits of socialist collectives, can you name a significant advancement (materials, design, whatever) they've made?
[10:08:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''name a significant advancement'' - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:08:01] <exec> 08└─Shaker furniture Oneida flatware Amana appliances Mondragon industrial machines -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
[10:08:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:''name a significant advancement'' - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:08:03] <exec> 08└─Bauhaus "Oneida no longer operates manufacturing in the United States." KitchenAid Caterpillar Short of the USSR (which communist seem to want to disown), I can think of any significant advancements made by socialist. Listing a few mostly defunct companies isn't really convincing.
[10:08:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''how a government might get that money'' - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 505 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:08:14] <exec> 08└─Stop giving away the commonwealth for a pittance. Charge appropriate amounts for radio spectrum, grazing rights on public land, mineral extraction rights on public land (and oil drilling off coastlines), etc. These properties all belong to you and me. The gov't needs to stop treating it as freebies...
[10:08:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:If only there was a way to get the money first. - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:08:15] <exec> 08└─I have no problem with the idea of BI in theory. What I have yet to hear is how a government might get that money in practice. Someone has to pay it in taxes. Who and how?
[10:08:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:WTC focus vs the rest - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 533 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:08:39] <exec> 08└─In September 2001 (like every other month that decade), more people in the USA died in automotive accidents than died as a result of terrorism. But they didn't all die at once in a single place, and so that doesn't catch people's emotions. If the USA had invested as much in self-driving cars for the...
[10:08:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Putin didn't know what happened? - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:08:50] <exec> 08└─Russian President Vladimir Putin wanted to speak to Bush to know why the U.S. was preparing to go to DEFCON 3
[10:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Or do it the easy way - 06A Guide to Buying Edible Insects - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:09:49] <exec> 08└─Sounds too complicated for me. I'll stick with my existing method of cycling through the forest with my mouth open.
[10:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Pathogens in insect intestines - 06A Guide to Buying Edible Insects - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:09:50] <exec> 08└─When you buy meat you know that all the dirty body fluids (including their microbial ecosystems) are removed and close to not present in the meat. However with bugs I always have the idea that intestinal parts (including their potential pathogenic microbial ecosystems) are still present, which you a...
[10:10:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Remember - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 717 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:52] <exec> 08└─Whenever DDG doesn't find what I'm looking for, I send the query to Google and Bing (which DDG makes easy - just stick !bing or !google in the search box). I've recently done that quite a bit, as I've been searching for things that don't appear to exist on the web (anyone know how to get an Asus TF7...
[10:11:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Remember - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 450 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:11:02] <exec> 08└─Your homepage might not be, but the fact that someone reads it is personal information and you're making it easy for people to intercept that. Given how easy it is to set up HTTPS these days (I've been using StartSSL's free certs for a few years) and how little the CPU load is (Netflix manages to sa...
[10:11:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Why Would They Do Something Like That? - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 1833 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:11:13] <exec> 08└─It depends on your threat model. Both a self-signed and properly signed certificate protect you against a passive eavesdropper. No one who can see your packets but can't modify them can do anything. The next step up the adversary model is someone who can perform a MITM attack. That includes your IS...
[10:11:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Why Would They Do Something Like That? - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:11:15] <exec> 08└─scaring away everyone with my self-signed certificate
[10:14:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02Re:More evidence the EU is dying! - 06Italy's Supreme Court Rules Public Masturbation Not a Crime - 908 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:14:06] <exec> 08└─"If there isn't a reason for something to be legal, then it comes down to society and culture to decide whether or not it should be permissible." I was extremely tempted to stop reading here. I am aghast. On the chance you are an American, I will have you know that a large part of the reason you are...
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[11:07:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02crowdfund it - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:07:06] <exec> 08└─to get the device approved will cost him about $2 million
[11:07:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Asset tags for people? - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 57 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:07:14] <exec> 08└─Human resources finally fitted the cattle with cow bells?
[11:07:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:newspeak - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:07:19] <exec> 08└─"humanyze" is to "human" as "analyze" is to "anal"
[11:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Farts, Security, and Ads - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:07:30] <exec> 08└─Having a nervous breakdown? For one week only we have 50℅ reductions on lithium, Prozac and haloperidol. Get yours now while stocks last. Always read the label. Drink responsibly.
[11:07:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Has Communism worked anywhere? - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:07:55] <exec> 08└─The markets crashed because the producers of food and clothing gave food and clothing to the poor for free, which reduced the market value of food and clothing to zero, and then the producers became the poor themselves.
[11:08:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:''name a significant advancement'' - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:08:16] <exec> 08└─Trying to move the goalposts after I already scored just makes it clear you're a sore loser. Accent on "loser". -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
[11:08:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:''Lack of democracy will screw up any system'' - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:08:17] <exec> 08└─Any and every successful FOSS project out there? There's also some good OSH projects as well.
[11:08:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Re:If only there was a way to get the money first. - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 1620 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:08:31] <exec> 08└─I think you're making a basic mistake about human nature - which is the assumption that a large percentage of the population will simply realize "hey, free money!", quit their jobs (if they have them), and spend the rest of their lives simply mooching off the government and never making enough money...
[11:08:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03loic [5844] 02Universal income VS. universal salary - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 1046 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:08:32] <exec> 08└─I think that universal income is not that good. First, it has a naming problem; it feels like it is raining money and that is not the point. So Let's name this universal salary. So now, you may begin to see the point. Many non money-making jobs are by definition ingrate and treated as secondary. Tak...
[11:09:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03takyon [881] 02Re:Was Bin Laden that crafty? - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 747 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:09:02] <exec> 08└─War exercises aren't exactly uncommon, right? Coincidence detected. I find it more interesting that the FBI was facing budget cuts [historycommons.org] in the months prior to 9/11 (I had remembered something about FBI downsizing or funding rejection specifically on Sept. 10, 2001, but it took a whil...
[11:09:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Was Bin Laden that crafty? - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:09:05] <exec> 08└─Pff.. You americans keep going on and on and on about 9/11. Just get over it and accept it was some kind of slimy inside job to set you up for endless wars etc, and stop celebrating it every year like it's Good Friday or something. False religion, stop hoovering it up.
[11:09:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Turtle-turtle - 06A Guide to Buying Edible Insects - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:09:57] <exec> 08└─I had it once as a kid.... it was delicious! ;)
[11:10:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02slow news day staple - 06A Guide to Buying Edible Insects - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:10:10] <exec> 08└─Eating insects has joined such topics as eliminating the penny coin, the decline of cursive handwriting, and the shroud of Turin as a go-to topic for slow news days.
[11:12:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:Department of Education - 06Never let a Crisis go to Waste: CDC Using Zika Virus to Expand Authority - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:12:43] <exec> 08└─I don't know how often it happens, but I have heard many stories. Here are a few of them [myopia.org]. There's another list here [naturalnews.com], many described as "SWAT-style" raids or with "dozens of armed agents" descending on farms or food coops. So, maybe more frequently than you would think.
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[12:07:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:crowdfund it - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 1614 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:07:14] <exec> 08└─RTFA. [allergystopnow.com] I know, that's an odd request around here. The website is a frontend to the inventor's Indiegogo campaign, [indiegogo.com] where he's asking for donations of $50 to get a T-shirt reward or $250 for an injector capsule following FDA approval; as a result, the practical cost...
[12:07:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:crowdfund it - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:07:15] <exec> 08└─Numbers on the campaign are pretty low; 16 on the website, 8 on Indiegogo.
[12:07:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03mth [2848] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Missing details? - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:07:17] <exec> 08└─But Kaplan's patent made its way into [the] Netherlands-based drug maker Mylan, which, since 2007, has jacked up the price of the spring-loaded injector from $57 a shot to $300.
[12:07:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Missing details? - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:07:20] <exec> 08└─its mainly the injector. Its not so trivial to make a device with a needle that is safe to carry around yet can be used to inject yourself rapidly and easily.
[12:07:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03esperto123 [4303] (Score:3, Insightful) 02FDA - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 820 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:07:22] <exec> 08└─The article kind of paints the FDA as a bad guy here, but the process that he (and everyone else, for that matter) has to go through is in place for good reason. He says that his device is ready, but we cannot be sure unless independent test is done and following a strict protocol to guarantee that...
[12:07:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03noneof_theabove [6189] (Score:1) 02Reform the FDA... - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 759 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:07:24] <exec> 08└─and Patent Office is highly needed....NOW! If the FDA took 1000 pens and made sure they did not fail injecting a liquid with a viscosity of EpiPen liquid, yes-it is harder to push thick stuff out a small needle and conversely a large needle and thin liquid may go faster than can be utilized causing...
[12:07:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Seriously - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:07:26] <exec> 08└─Vial of epinephrene, syringe. If diabetics can be taught to do it, atopic people can be taught to do it.
[12:07:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02These things are useful - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:07:50] <exec> 08└─How are they useful? Because if your company uses them, they inform you that you should end your employment there as quickly as possible. And that's true even if you are management, because it means that the higher-ups and/or HR are taking away your ability to manage your own team and replacing it w...
[12:07:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fast Fwd to the Future, and .. - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:07:51] <exec> 08└─.. a citizen NOT wearing their badge is eligible for a drone strike. Thank you for your cooperation.
[12:08:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Misguided - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:08:43] <exec> 08└─Yes and buboes are the definition of bubonic plague. But the cause is the bacteria "Yersinia pestis".
[12:08:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Universal income VS. universal salary - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:08:55] <exec> 08└─When people keep score using money, only paid work gives you status. You can have a very busy life of writing open source software that no one uses, creating beautiful works of art that no one looks at, or writing insightful comments that no one reads. If you don't get paid to do any of those things...
[12:08:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02smart Kenyans...! - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:08:56] <exec> 08└─These are some smart Kenyans. No one gives you free stuff with no strings attached. If you go to prison, and someone leaves gifts on your rack, you don't take them. They're trying to see if you're a mark.
[12:08:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:smart Kenyans...! - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:08:58] <exec> 08└─Even SN begs for donations. Well I'll show you! I'll never donate. But I will continue reading.
[12:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02conspiracy....not so much... - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 1087 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:09:34] <exec> 08└─I suppose in my life of studying the universe, there are some principles that one always considers foremost, when unexpected complex behaviour is observed. Could the 9/11 disaster be a conspiracy? Of course! It actually was - the 19 criminal psychopaths and their handlers orchestrated a fluke. But t...
[12:10:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:well, let's see - 06A Guide to Buying Edible Insects - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:23] <exec> 08└─I was mostly thinking of the fact that bugs tend to carry disease
[12:10:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02organic natural red food dye is bugs - 06A Guide to Buying Edible Insects - 935 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:10:40] <exec> 08└─Soylent Green is people, but organic natural red food dye is bugs. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] One of the many benefits of a natural organic lifestyle is getting to eat bugs. Of course as you'd guess a fraction of the population is allergic to the natural dye and the arti...
[12:11:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Remember - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:11:42] <exec> 08└─"just stick !bing or !google in the search box" !g works as a shorthand for !google. I also often use !gm (Google Maps), !gscholar, !gtranslate, !w (Wikipedia)... (Just checked, !b works as !bing.)
[12:12:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Why Would They Do Something Like That? - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:12:03] <exec> 08└─There's a lot more ways to secure TLS than just having a cert nowadays. Look into HPKP especially if you're really interested but be aware that losing your key can lead to permanent bricking of TLS for your website.
[12:15:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Re:Defining deviency down again - 06Italy's Supreme Court Rules Public Masturbation Not a Crime - 904 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:04] <exec> 08└─Perhaps you could help me understand something that has never made sense to me. Why do religious people think pleasure == hell == deviant == wicked == outrageous == perverted? Why do you cling to the idea that your imaginary man-in-the-sky would design bodies specifically to experience pleasure and...
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[13:07:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03khakipuce [233] (Score:2) 02Apple is no better - 06Android is a Dead End - 504 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:07:10] <exec> 08└─Both my kids use Apple becuase it is cool but they both have problems with it, the last iOS update rendered my daughter's phone pretty much unusable for many weeks. They have both had Android phones in the past and actually prefer them but ... Apple. One the subject of updates my Lenovo tablet has n...
[13:07:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Life is a dead end - 06Android is a Dead End - 613 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:07:11] <exec> 08└─I had a custom piece of hardware, I wrote a nice app for it, I shared it with the "world" of 100 other people who had similar systems, and about 50 of them paid me $65 each for the app (I'm pretty sure the other 50 pirated it). Anyway, that was a total dead-end. The hardware is now out of production...
[13:07:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Funny) 02Appalbarry is the dead end - 06Android is a Dead End - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:07:13] <exec> 08└─Former power user got lazy and became an end user. Now end user is whining about needing to depend upon the work of others. Shut! Up! Leech!
[13:07:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Not unique - 06Android is a Dead End - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:07:15] <exec> 08└─Finally, there's the Play store, and the millions of apps available to users. I think that most people would agree that trying to find a usable app for a specific purpose is an exercise in frustration. The current system pretty much requires you to guess on a search term to find an app, then wade th...
[13:07:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Agree with the most important points - 06Android is a Dead End - 988 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:07:17] <exec> 08└─Some points, like problems with the search function in the App Store, seem a bit petty. But the really important points are on the mark. Since the 1980s, we have had open-architecture computers, where those so inclined could replace individual hardware components. While operating systems have genera...
[13:07:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Yeah, but not for those reasons - 06Android is a Dead End - 1535 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:07:20] <exec> 08└─"That there's no way a user can update their system without their cooperation is just not acceptable today." That there is no way to stay reasonably secure without trusting these updates, and the routing that takes you to their source, is just not acceptable today. I started with computers in the ea...
[13:07:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02sailfish...meego...etc.. - 06Android is a Dead End - 2047 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:07:22] <exec> 08└─The handsets (meego , the wonderful N9, the functional N900, the useful A780) , have all had mostly fullblown linux on them. Sailfish was supposed to bridge Linux and Android in a meaningful way - you can have proper linux running the phone and then all the rinky dink apps can be android. The proble...
[13:07:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Celestial [4891] (Score:2) 02Gave Up on Android - 06Android is a Dead End - 1072 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:07:24] <exec> 08└─I realize this will be a fairly unpopular opinion, but I gave up on Android. I've used Android smartphones since 2011. After five years, I moved to iPhone. Why? Two reasons. 1. I've mentioned before on here that physically, I am a dwarf. My hands are tiny. Android smartphones since 2014 are just too...
[13:07:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03fraxinus-tree [5590] (Score:1) 02Open source? - 06Android is a Dead End - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:07:26] <exec> 08└─Have you ever looked at the drivers? At half of the apps on the average Android phone?
[13:07:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Google is the problem. - 06Android is a Dead End - 2154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:07:28] <exec> 08└─The problem is Google. They are an advertising agency. Android was just another way to sell ads through apps. Their problem appears to be a management process that keeps throwing money in different directions until something sticks and run with it until they loose interest in it. Every time I've use...
[13:07:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Missing details? - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:07:40] <exec> 08└─It turns out it's a US company that is registered in the Netherlands, possibly for tax reasons.
[13:07:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:FDA - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 509 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:07:43] <exec> 08└─It's not about safety. If it was about safety, he could get a third party to test and certify it for much less. It's about control, and barriers to entry in particular. The more barriers that can be raised to entry into a market (in this case, for pharmaceuticals and related items) the more protecte...
[13:07:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03fadrian [3194] (Score:2) 02Re:FDA - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:07:45] <exec> 08└─Yes, third parties like bond rating agencies that were supposed to watch the ratings of all those AAA mortgage bonds for those banks in the late 2000's. I think that Libertarians have too simple minds - they can't see obvious failure modes.
[13:07:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fnord666 [652] (Score:2) 02Re:FDA - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:07:47] <exec> 08└─The article kind of paints the FDA as a bad guy here, but the process that he (and everyone else, for that matter) has to go through is in place for good reason. He says that his device is ready, but we cannot be sure unless independent test is done and following a strict protocol to guarantee that...
[13:07:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Seriously - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:07:51] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, the times you urgently need a shot of epinephrine, are also the times when it is incredibly difficult to measure out an accurate amount of it from a vial and syringe it into yourself (or someone else). The point of the pen is that the dose is pre-measured and auto-injected for those i...
[13:08:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:3, Insightful) 02In other news - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:08:17] <exec> 08└─Record numbers have been enrolling in sign language classes. The Society for the Deaf is celebrating at the solidarity shown by hitherto indifferent citizens.
[13:08:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck Google - 06Researchers Demonstrate "WaveNet" Neural Network, Claim Large Improvements in TTS - 783 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:08:29] <exec> 08└─Yes, a surprising number. Someone calls from Microsoft and says that you're computer detected that you're having problems with them, what are the chances that: You're using Windows (most people who use computers). You're having problems with it (most people who use computers). You're going to believ...
[13:08:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Has Communism worked anywhere? - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:08:53] <exec> 08└─How else are you going to get people to give away the fruits of their labor?
[13:09:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't screw it up... - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 847 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:09:14] <exec> 08└─I would imagine the wide spread level of insanity and addiction in that sub-population will achieve that end result. There's quite a bit of diversity in poor people. In that way basic income isn't much use for some, like homeless or entire inner cities. On the other hand its probably going to be ver...
[13:09:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Universal income VS. universal salary - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:09:25] <exec> 08└─your peers will still judge you as if you are lazy.
[13:09:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Universal income VS. universal salary - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 3186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:09:26] <exec> 08└─I don't necessarily think you're wrong, and that is well written and argued, but try this analogy on for awhile, see what you think. I've spent a large fraction of my working life in public utilities (unfortunately medical care isn't yet a public utility, but soon enough...) anyway eventually you co...
[13:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Love Uncle Big Brother Sam! - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:09:45] <exec> 08└─A Jew stole his girl friend, you say? Well, yeah, but that's only half of the story. The part that really pissed EF off is, THE DAMNED JEW BROUGHT HER BACK WHEN HE WAS FINISHED WITH HER!
[13:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Love Uncle Big Brother Sam! - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 1366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:09:47] <exec> 08└─"Even WWII didn't have as much staying power." You can't be serious. For the single most obvious effect of WW2, you need only look at Japan. Japan is today a major economic force, firmly entrenched in the "western world". Prior to WW2, Japan was arguably an economic force, but it was certainly not a...
[13:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:WTC focus vs the rest - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:09:54] <exec> 08└─Uhhhhhh - citations, please? I've heard a couple rounds of the rumor mill saying that plane was shot down, but that doesn't really add up. The wreckage was confined to such a small area, it's not possible that the craft was shot down from altitude. The plane that was shot down in Ukrainia rained bit...
[13:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:''low on fuel'' - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:08] <exec> 08└─Yeah, that was the first thought through my mind. "WTF? AF1 can't do midair refueling? Huh? I know that I've read that one or another of the president's planes CAN do midair refueling!" I was allowing for the possibility that maybe the refueling capable craft had been retired or something. In for r...
[13:12:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Re:Its deja-vu all over again - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:12:34] <exec> 08└─This is addressed in TFA, it sounds like they're aware of that effect and they're trying to take it into consideration:
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[14:07:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Oh no - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 737 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:07:17] <exec> 08└─he gas is stored in cylinders, and is released at high velocity out of nozzles uniformly spread across the data center. According to people familiar with the system, the pressure at ING Bank's data center was higher than expected, and produced a loud sound when rapidly expelled through tiny holes (t...
[14:07:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Halon - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:07:19] <exec> 08└─inert gas
[14:07:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Yeah, but not for those reasons - 06Android is a Dead End - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:35] <exec> 08└─That is because computing is not science but engineering discipline. There is no "frontier" to be at after settling down on an OS. Hardware part still sorta comes down to being actual science, but software is all about user-experience. And UI is purely engineering problem.
[14:07:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alphatool [1145] (Score:2) 02Re:sailfish...meego...etc.. - 06Android is a Dead End - 760 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:37] <exec> 08└─Sailfish has had a bumpy road but things are on the up. Intex have launched a new phone running Sailfish, the Aqua Fish, and while it's a budget handset it's actually really nice to use as a phone - the gesture interface is so much nicer than anything else out there. It runs proper linux but still g...
[14:07:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:sailfish...meego...etc.. - 06Android is a Dead End - 1067 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:39] <exec> 08└─hence my musing about "binary reuse". In my work messing with biological assembly (genomes), there a techniques that could be used to help de-binarise closed source drivers. Not reverse-engineer, but simply use the constraints of the working system to derive the working format. This is pretty much w...
[14:07:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03beernutz [4365] (Score:1) 02Re:Gave Up on Android - 06Android is a Dead End - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:42] <exec> 08└─You might have a look at the new Samsung S7 (not the edge). It is 5.1" That might be closer to what you need? It is very fast, and updates software about as often as other non-nexus devices.
[14:07:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Gave Up on Android - 06Android is a Dead End - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:44] <exec> 08└─Agreed on size - but fortunately I could quite easily get the Z3 compact in the uk, and it fits the bill really well.
[14:07:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Get a MI 5 - 06Android is a Dead End - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:47] <exec> 08└─Buy a Xiaomi product. Seriously. Almost all devices are regularly updated and UI has all the goodness of Apple and all the openness, as much as is possible, of Android.
[14:07:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Open source? - 06Android is a Dead End - 1608 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:50] <exec> 08└─Well, yes - but now you've opened a different discussion. Linux, BSD, and other Unix-likes see that discussion all the time. The OPERATING SYSTEM is open source, yeah. But, you, the owner, can run any kind of driver or application you like. Purists demand open source drivers and apps, while the rest...
[14:07:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Profits + Proprietary Code = Problem - 06Android is a Dead End - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:53] <exec> 08└─If you have a for-profit business, and you have proprietary code, then it is basically guaranteed that somebody will eventually say "Hey, wouldn't this be more profitable if we screwed over our users?" And they will. And if they get caught, they'll do a PR dance for a little while, swear up and down...
[14:07:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Google is the problem. - 06Android is a Dead End - 743 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:55] <exec> 08└─As far as I can tell, Google released Android so the mobile world wasn't locked to a control-freak company that would be guaranteed to implement a non-open experience as soon as they had a big enough market share. Google relies on an open internet. You can use Android without any interaction with Go...
[14:07:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02No it isn't - 06Android is a Dead End - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:07:57] <exec> 08└─Android is a Dead End
[14:07:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02business model not OS - 06Android is a Dead End - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:07:59] <exec> 08└─There is speculation that Google may be preparing to abandon Android, but will a new Google OS really be any better for end users?
[14:08:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02This is written like an engineer or IT person - 06Android is a Dead End - 3333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:08:01] <exec> 08└─Android was released to sell stuff, including hardware. Not the OS, unless it's the selling of the OS as a concept so that people would use it. Give away the handle and charge for the razor, etc. People are addicted to the handles that form the base of Google's control of what you do with the blades...
[14:08:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03ShadowSystems [6185] (Score:1) 02Android & Apple both. - 06Android is a Dead End - 1812 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:08:04] <exec> 08└─I went to a regional T-Mo HQ store this weekend with the intention of purchasing a SmartPhone. It didn't matter if it was an Android or an Apple, as long as it was completely Accessible. I know Android claims to have the TalkBack functionality to make it Accessible to the blind, but NONE, not a sing...
[14:08:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03loic [5844] (Score:1) 02End user? No problem. - 06Android is a Dead End - 1038 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:08:06] <exec> 08└─Sorry but I fail to see the point for a end user who does not care about the OS. I mean, my 5 yo Android phone never stopped working because of lack of update and most updates have only a cosmetic feel to them, for the average Joe. To compare frankly with iOS (software only), the average Joe could n...
[14:08:20] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03esperto123 [4303] 02FDA - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 820 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:08:20] <exec> 08└─The article kind of paints the FDA as a bad guy here, but the process that he (and everyone else, for that matter) has to go through is in place for good reason. He says that his device is ready, but we cannot be sure unless independent test is done and following a strict protocol to guarantee that...
[14:08:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:FDA - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:08:24] <exec> 08└─He is also changing the dosing and the way that it is determined. I highly suspect that this sort of change requires significantly more testing than a simple change to the injector would require.
[14:08:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03fubari [4551] (Score:1) 02picture of what it looks like... Re:FDA - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 528 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:08:26] <exec> 08└─Picture of what it looks like here in an interview w/inventor, actually explains the device: a-conversation-with-the-doctor-who-invented-it/ [salon.com], and interesting read. Summary: the new device is keyring size (see link for neat picture). Advantage: while epi-pens aren't huge, many people don...
[14:08:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:FDA - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:08:29] <exec> 08└─The article kind of paints the FDA as a bad guy here, but the process that he (and everyone else, for that matter) has to go through is in place for good reason.
[14:08:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Reform the FDA... - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:08:32] <exec> 08└─I don't disagree with your general sentiment, but: https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org]
[14:08:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Seriously - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:08:36] <exec> 08└─the times you urgently need a shot of epinephrine,
[14:08:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score:2) 02Re:Seriously - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 518 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:08:38] <exec> 08└─I don't disagree with you on the $600 injector. It doesn't need to cost that much. The reality is that in other countries, it doesn't cost that much. Don't confuse, however, the advantage of having a device that you can keep in reserve for the time you do urgently need it, with diabetics who are on...
[14:08:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Seriously - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 756 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:08:40] <exec> 08└─The system I remember from a backcountry first aid kit I was trained to use over a decade ago was also pretty simple: It came in a pre-filled syringe, and the plunger required you to give it a quarter-turn before pushing 0.1cc out. So it basically was "put needle in, turn plunger, push until it stop...
[14:08:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:newspeak - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 1366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:08:53] <exec> 08└─> never consent to it if someone else held the keys It can be awfully hard, as in lose-your-job-and-income hard, to say no. It's sad how hostile work environments have become, with every measure of productivity warped into dirt that can be used to justify a firing. Imbalance in power, and knowledge...
[14:09:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:Nope - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:03] <exec> 08└─Um.. yeah wonkeymonkey, now I don't understand what you meant anymore. I thought you had the clever idea of "if my boss forces me to wear such a thing, I'll buy a plastic one at the fancy-fair, and borrow my real one to some trustworthy colleague to wear all day". Might lead to disappointment if you...
[14:09:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Shocked I say - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:06] <exec> 08└─Drone fritsd reported as typing on site "soylentnews.org" instead of working. Bzzzzt! *Now* you are shocked, shocked!
[14:09:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:In other news - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:13] <exec> 08└─Record numbers have been enrolling in sign language classes.
[14:09:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:In other news - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:15] <exec> 08└─Furbees will become popular again as a place to hang your badge.
[14:10:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't screw it up... - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:13] <exec> 08└─I think you nailed it. Already productive people who then go on BI would be better. Maybe Detroit would be a good test?
[14:10:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Social contract / needs work - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 1686 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:27] <exec> 08└─Starting assumptions: 1) It doesn't seem fair to let someone starve or be without medical care or shelter in a land of plenty. 2) Since our time on this planet is actually limited, it doesn't seem fair to make someone work to pay for the leisure time of someone else. 3) In a portable job market, the...
[14:10:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Love Uncle Big Brother Sam! - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:47] <exec> 08└─Arguably USA would still be the new world instead of CEO of the old world as it is today.
[14:12:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03iWantToKeepAnon [686] (Score:2) 02Re:organic natural red food dye is bugs - 06A Guide to Buying Edible Insects - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:16] <exec> 08└─So, Soylent Red is insects! (??)
[14:12:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:organic natural red food dye is bugs - 06A Guide to Buying Edible Insects - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:17] <exec> 08└─Could be people are bugs https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[14:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Remember - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:21] <exec> 08└─Thanks! I use !wiki a lot, !w will save lots of typing.
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[15:07:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03weeds [611] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Halon - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 707 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:21] <exec> 08└─I experienced a Halon dump test once (so this is truly anecdotal.) The dump was done from the ceiling, nothing under the floor or anywhere else. The test was done with the full staff in the room. Doing it this way increases the concentration of the Halon in the room (displacement) and makes the tes...
[15:07:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02More info, in case you were left wondering - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 545 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:07:23] <exec> 08└─The gas is stored in cylinders, and is released at high velocity out of nozzles uniformly spread across the data center. According to people familiar with the system, the pressure at ING Bank's data center was higher than expected, and produced a loud sound when rapidly expelled through tiny holes (...
[15:07:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:More info, in case you were left wondering - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:25] <exec> 08└─What, you couldn't find any grammar to bitch about so you've resorted to cut-n-pasting more of the article? Why not post the whole article in case people were left wondering?
[15:07:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Apple is no better - 06Android is a Dead End - 817 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:35] <exec> 08└─Given that the only real alternatively is Apple, where you have the hardware and the software controlled through a single company and no choice at all, I would argue that it is the more likely dead end. Android is open-source and there are many hardware providers. Google, Samsung, HTC, etc, could al...
[15:07:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Appalbarry is the dead end - 06Android is a Dead End - 140 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:07:36] <exec> 08└─Former power user got lazy and became an end user. Now end user is whining about needing to depend upon the work of others. Shut! Up! Leech!
[15:07:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] 02Google is the problem. - 06Android is a Dead End - 2154 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:07:50] <exec> 08└─The problem is Google. They are an advertising agency. Android was just another way to sell ads through apps. Their problem appears to be a management process that keeps throwing money in different directions until something sticks and run with it until they loose interest in it. Every time I've use...
[15:07:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:2) 02Re:Google is the problem. - 06Android is a Dead End - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:54] <exec> 08└─With wifi turned on, I experience frequent connection loss and sites stop loading or streaming stops. If I turn the wifi off and use the cell data, presto, pages load and video streams. Thankfully I have that T-mobile unlimited data plan, otherwise I'd loose my mind.
[15:08:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03metarox [788] (Score:1) 02Android Development Model... - 06Android is a Dead End - 1892 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:08:01] <exec> 08└─I personally think it's the android development model that is somewhat flawed/not helping. Second level OEMs (Google -> SoC Vendor -> Phone OEM) are not pushing/supporting updates to Android because it is a resource hog. When you have multiple devices in circulation, pushing patches (especially thro...
[15:08:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02ITT: - 06Android is a Dead End - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:08:03] <exec> 08└─ITT: capitalism's myopic drive to squeeze everything to death for a few more dollars is why we can't have nice things. But keep going to work every day and hope your overlords will sort it out. Suckers.
[15:08:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score:2) 02Default Apps - 06Android is a Dead End - 431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:08:05] <exec> 08└─For me the biggest hurdle is that Google still has not even produced a good fully featured email client to bundle as default. It is literally impossible to send a bulk email from android with the default apps. And the selection of third party apps is horrible, their is practically no one making dece...
[15:08:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Conflict of Interest - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:22] <exec> 08└─Yes, third parties like bond rating agencies that were supposed to watch the ratings of all those AAA mortgage bonds for those banks in the late 2000's.
[15:08:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Seriously - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 930 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:34] <exec> 08└─It is daylight robbery that it costs that much. I merely mention my "low tech" solution because I practice in the developing world and only the richest can afford Epi-Pens, which they have to buy overseas because they're simply not sold here. While it's less than ideal, it's no worse than the Epi-pe...
[15:08:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:Seriously - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 879 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:36] <exec> 08└─Dunbal, can you comment on this a bit more? From what little there is on the website, it sounds like a bunch of the money is going to verification of sterility; sounds like the FDA is worried that the process of filling the syringes would introduce pathogens. How viable would it be for a consumer to...
[15:08:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Seriously - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:38] <exec> 08└─Dunbal, can you comment on this a bit more?
[15:08:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:Seriously - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 631 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:40] <exec> 08└─The questions you are asking are the questions that would interest lawyers. So a company like Epi-pen will invest a lot of money in making sure they can't be sued if anyone gets infected by their product because "oh we have this process, and that system, and such and such, and these studies..." - wh...
[15:08:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:newspeak - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:54] <exec> 08└─When I saw the name, in a little just-woke haze, I saw "Humanzee", so I presumed they were marketting towards companies that employee coding monkeys, or simply pay their employees in bananas.
[15:09:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:In other news - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:13] <exec> 08└─So it's not just me. :-)
[15:09:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Framing people - 06Researchers Demonstrate "WaveNet" Neural Network, Claim Large Improvements in TTS - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:28] <exec> 08└─One more step towards making it easier to frame/fake someone. They can do the video/CGI already, motion capture: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] See the CGI demos by various small studios. Even individuals: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[15:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:mhajicek uses words he doesn't understand - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:51] <exec> 08└─Communism and Totalitarianism are complete OPPOSITES. (We're running into the DPRK thing again.)
[15:10:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Universal income VS. universal salary - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:27] <exec> 08└─Its all about a hundred people owning all the money and wealth and swiping it from each other and generally being useless parasites.
[15:10:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Love Uncle Big Brother Sam! - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 561 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:50] <exec> 08└─Oh yes - just imagine a path somewhere near the middle of the "world hegemony" and isolationist extremes. Or, maybe even leaning towards isolationism. I would like that just fine. Maybe Mexico and a couple other countries could have joined forces to convince us that the whole banana republic facade...
[15:10:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Love Uncle Big Brother Sam! - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:51] <exec> 08└─I am actually sad that there is no isolationism today. It is criminal to be off-the-grid in USA nowadays, and there is no place where I can reach and start an independent new life. We can only romanticize about different systems now.
[15:10:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Squidious [4327] (Score:2) 02Re:WTC focus vs the rest - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:59] <exec> 08└─The two F-16s scrambled to take out flight 93 were unarmed because they had just finished a training exercise. The pilots were prepared to crash their fighters into the passenger jet, one at the cockpit and the other at the tail. But the passengers rushed the cockpit and flight 93 went down before t...
[15:11:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:WTC focus vs the rest - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:02] <exec> 08└─Over the years, they have hardly said anything at all about that fourth plane that went down in the field.
[15:11:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Putin didn't know what happened? - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 428 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:17] <exec> 08└─You assume he was baffled at the seemingly reasonless action, and suggest there was a clear reason. However, it may be a combination of formality, and perhaps wanting to know what the final straw was. The people saw towers falling, but Putin may have seen many moves in many places, and wanted to kno...
[15:11:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score:2) 02Re:Putin didn't know what happened? - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 481 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:19] <exec> 08└─As the country that has been set up as Americas villain for more than half a century, I can imagine why Putin would want to make sure that he was not being blamed for the attacks. Attack in major US city followed by a shift in Defcon would make Vlad want to be very sure fingers were not being pointe...
[15:12:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bank robbery vs Customer robbery - 06Wells Fargo Fined Over Unauthorized Accounts - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:54] <exec> 08└─While I was working there I was literally the only person willing to obey the law over my supervisor.
[15:12:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bank robbery vs Customer robbery - 06Wells Fargo Fined Over Unauthorized Accounts - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:56] <exec> 08└─What is the robing of a bank in comparison to the founding of one?
[15:13:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Doesn't matter who you bank with - 06Wells Fargo Fined Over Unauthorized Accounts - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:06] <exec> 08└─If you travel a great deal, a multi-national gives a degree of peace of mind that what ever shithole I find myself in, I will have the means to extricate myself from an emergency with minimal fuss.
[15:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Remember - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:34] <exec> 08└─I used to use google, and never felt the need to go elsewhere However in a vain attempt to reclaim some control over my online presence I moved to DDG. It works half the time, maybe even most of the time. Here's a query I just used though tuc conference 2016
[15:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Remember - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:47] <exec> 08└─Agreed. There's a reason librarians have stood strong against government attempts to gain access the books people choose to read.
[15:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:Why Would They Do Something Like That? - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:02] <exec> 08└─How exactly does verifying a cert protect anyone?
[15:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why Would They Do Something Like That? - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:04] <exec> 08└─Generating a key and a self-signed certificate represents 95% of the effort? You can do that in a single command-line invocation of openssl: openssl req -new -x509 -days 365 -key ca.key -out ca.crt
[15:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:you know the drill - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:13] <exec> 08└─Everybody ignores the importance of that one. Caching is good, https breaks it unless your ISP breaks https to fix it and that breaks security for those times you need it.
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[16:07:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02That sucks - 06HP to Buy Samsung's Printer Business for $1.05 Billion - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:07:26] <exec> 08└─I really liked their laser printers. :( Also, LOL at HP "disrupting" the copier industry. Yeah, that's what people love when they're trying to print something, disruption. (Yes, I know that's not what they mean to say by it)
[16:07:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:That sucks - 06HP to Buy Samsung's Printer Business for $1.05 Billion - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:27] <exec> 08└─Ha ha. Just after Xerox sent me to HCL, Ursula said that printing was the past. Customers were increasingly looking for ways to avoid printing because it was expensive and bad for the environment. Xerox follows HP usually a year or two later... This should be fun.
[16:07:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02Re:That sucks - 06HP to Buy Samsung's Printer Business for $1.05 Billion - 472 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:29] <exec> 08└─Tell me about it... I had an HP inkjet printer in the 90s, just a low-end consumer one, that lasted about a decade (of heavy use) before tearing up. The replacement lasted maybe three or four years. The replacement for the replacement lasted about a year. Now I have an Epson printer. HP makes trash...
[16:07:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:That sucks - 06HP to Buy Samsung's Printer Business for $1.05 Billion - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:31] <exec> 08└─You can get them in the US, at least, around me. Check out the Samsung CLP-415. It's $300-500, but it's probably one of the best printers I've owned. Had the thing about 5 years, and I've had to replace the black once, even with all my friends printing off D&D character sheets and 40k army lists fro...
[16:07:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:Life is a dead end - 06Android is a Dead End - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:54] <exec> 08└─Algorithms, baby, algorithms. They're timeless, and they are independent of media, no need to carve stone. Euclid's algorithm for Greatest Common divisor is over 2000 years old, and still relevant today.
[16:07:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Appalbarry is the dead end - 06Android is a Dead End - 857 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:58] <exec> 08└─I must disagree with you on this. I mean, have you looked at what's available on the (smart)phone front these days? It's slim pickings, that's for sure. With Apple you get a pretty, walled garden with prison wardens looking after you. With Android you get a wild-growing field with scarecrows monitor...
[16:07:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Appalbarry is the dead end - 06Android is a Dead End - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:00] <exec> 08└─You can run Android with no interaction from Google whatsoever, and install software only from open-source providers like F-Droid. You can root Android phones quite easily from many hardware providers, and most also have alternative versions of Android firmware available for them. The only reason an...
[16:08:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:Yeah, but not for those reasons - 06Android is a Dead End - 410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:06] <exec> 08└─That doesn't even make sense. It's not 'engineering' that causes this, it's a market marked by severe information imbalances, where buyers not only don't understand what they are buying but are not capable of understanding what they are buying. As a result, they rely on industry experts, who have a...
[16:08:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Gave Up on Android - 06Android is a Dead End - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:14] <exec> 08└─Oh - and is now running 6.0.1, so Sony aren't as bad as you've heard!
[16:08:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03gauauu [3693] (Score:1) 02Re:Gave Up on Android - 06Android is a Dead End - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:17] <exec> 08└─The only smartphone manufacturer today that makes a 5" smartphone is Apple.
[16:08:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:Gave Up on Android - 06Android is a Dead End - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:19] <exec> 08└─I ended up with an Alcatel OneTouch Idol 3. It comes in a 5.5", but I got the 4.7" because that's the size I need too. It's a very nice phone, now runs Marshmallow, and you can find it used/refurbished for about $100, or $170 for factory fresh. I bought a used one last time when my son smashed his,...
[16:08:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Google is the problem. - 06Android is a Dead End - 572 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:28] <exec> 08└─It's almost ironic given how the sim card is lost from time to time. So either the wifi craps out or the cell radio stops working once the sim is "lost". I'm sure someone will chime in and say time for a new phone. And maybe they're right. But I'm not that desperate yet. Just disappointed in the con...
[16:08:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score:2) 02Android's positioning - 06Android is a Dead End - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:08:39] <exec> 08└─I'll suggest that the whole Android ecosystem represents a dead end.
[16:08:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Android's positioning - 06Android is a Dead End - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:41] <exec> 08└─Well said.
[16:08:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02there must be a better way - 06Android is a Dead End - 1107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:08:43] <exec> 08└─As an Android developer, it's a dumpster fire of constantly changing APIs, Google services, build tools, and so on. Google changes Android so much that it's hard to develop any momentum or expertise with it. But if "there must be a better way" what is it? Hardware companies don't want to give Google...
[16:08:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03waximius [1136] (Score:1) 02Anecdote - 06Android is a Dead End - 2135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:08:45] <exec> 08└─Mobile developer here with my own anecdote to contribute - take it or leave it. I wrote a keyboard extension app for iOS some time ago, both a paid and free version. The free version did very well, and the paid version did OK. Seeing my numbers, I thought it would be worth the effort to port it to A...
[16:08:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03mth [2848] 02Missing details? - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 177 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:08:57] <exec> 08└─But Kaplan's patent made its way into [the] Netherlands-based drug maker Mylan, which, since 2007, has jacked up the price of the spring-loaded injector from $57 a shot to $300.
[16:09:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:FDA - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:04] <exec> 08└─You look directly at a failure mode of state capitalism and ascribe it to libertarianism. That's just perverse. Those bond rating agencies, and the banks, and the bonds themselves were all part of a heavily regulated walled garden. The conflict of interest was, as another poster noted, obvious on it...
[16:09:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Patent law kills - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:09:21] <exec> 08└─But Kaplan's patent made its way into [the] Netherlands-based drug maker Mylan, which, since 2007, has jacked up the price of the spring-loaded injector from $57 a shot to $300.
[16:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score:2) 02Re:Farts, Security, and Ads - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:50] <exec> 08└─More likely "Having a nervous breakdown? Remain calm. Security will arrive to escort you off the premises momentarily."
[16:09:51] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02These things are useful - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 335 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:09:51] <exec> 08└─How are they useful? Because if your company uses them, they inform you that you should end your employment there as quickly as possible. And that's true even if you are management, because it means that the higher-ups and/or HR are taking away your ability to manage your own team and replacing it w...
[16:10:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Personal tastes, and error bars - 06Researchers Demonstrate "WaveNet" Neural Network, Claim Large Improvements in TTS - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:13] <exec> 08└─Personally I think I prefered the parametric samples. The intonation was dreadful for the concatenative, it was painful to listen too (I'm no fan of many US accents generally, I'll be open about that, and most of that is because of the grating intonation), and not particularly brilliant for wavenet,...
[16:10:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Has Communism worked anywhere? - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:40] <exec> 08└─Neither communism nor socialism require totalitarianism [wikipedia.org] or any government involvement at all. Businesses that are worker cooperatives? Those are socialism, no government necessary.
[16:10:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Has Communism worked anywhere? - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:55] <exec> 08└─If offshoring moved capital from rich country to poor country, there would be no reason for businesses to do it. Offshoring's goal is to move more capital from workers to owners.
[16:11:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Misguided - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:01] <exec> 08└─all in an effort to reduce poverty.
[16:11:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:If only there was a way to get the money first. - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:10] <exec> 08└─This was predicted decades ago, but the waters have been muddied by driving down wages, relatively, for mass labour to keep it cheaper than automation.
[16:12:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Morons - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:33] <exec> 08└─Building empires tends to expose one to other cultures. Both Algeria and Morocco were part of France. France did, in fact, detonate 17 nuclear bombs in Algeria.
[16:12:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:" What's in the can?" - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:42] <exec> 08└─It might sound easy to someone with a little more technical knowledge. But you cant underestimate stupidity. This was a dragnet for low hanging fruit. Most of the suspects appear to be women and Moslem women tend to be uneducated because their religion/culture forbids it. So it stands to reason they...
[16:13:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:well, let's see - 06A Guide to Buying Edible Insects - 355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:00] <exec> 08└─I've always heard that pork has been considered unclean because pigs are carrion eaters and in particular because they have no aversion to eating humans. In the old days people pretty much let their pigs run free so they would run around eating all the dead rotting things and get filled with parasit...
[16:13:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02Re:Pathogens in insect intestines - 06A Guide to Buying Edible Insects - 358 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:17] <exec> 08└─When raising your own it's not a big deal; the food and environment is all standard; so the ick factor should be low, you know exactly what they've been exposed to. Also, "finishing", or not feeding the livestock for the last day before slaughter to empty the gut (and improve flavor) is a common pra...
[16:13:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Doesn't matter who you bank with - 06Wells Fargo Fined Over Unauthorized Accounts - 620 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:59] <exec> 08└─> [...] the government will require you do business with them. This may already true for recipients of unemployment benefits in Michigan and North Carolina, where payments are made via Bank of America debit cards. http://www.mlive.com
[16:14:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02Let's Encrypt rate limits - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:58] <exec> 08└─My personal server is subscribed to a dynamic dns provider and has a LE cert. Both together took maybe ten minutes to set up automatic renewals for.
[16:15:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Why Would They Do Something Like That? - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 1858 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:01] <exec> 08└─That's not a self-signed cert, that's an unsigned cert. With an unsigned cert, your web server has access to the only private key in the chain. There's no way that you can revoke, and anyone that compromises your web server can generate new certificates that appear to be you. To generate a self-sig...
[16:15:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02You need a domain - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:03] <exec> 08└─With StartSSL, the only extra step is that you paste the CSR into a web form instead of passing it to an OpenSSL command line.
[16:15:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:You need a domain - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 479 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:06] <exec> 08└─So? If you want to run a device on a private network, without connection to the Internet, then you probably have a far smaller set of client machines to worry about. For this use case, you can be your own CA. Add your own root cert to all of the devices that you care about and sign all of your certs...
[16:15:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02RADIUS Access Challenge - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:16] <exec> 08└─The solution is to switch from captive portals to something like RADIUS authentication [wikipedia.org], wherein the hotspot's terms of use can be presented as an Access Challenge.
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[17:07:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Re:That sucks - 06HP to Buy Samsung's Printer Business for $1.05 Billion - 954 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:32] <exec> 08└─HP's inkjets are trash, but that's because all modern inkjets are trash. Your '90s low-end consumer HP inkjet was a fluke, plus you used it in the only way that makes an inkjet last any sort of reasonable timeframe, which is heavily (most of them get used so infrequently that the problem is that the...
[17:07:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03sendafiolorkar [6300] (Score:1) 02Paper? - 06HP to Buy Samsung's Printer Business for $1.05 Billion - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:07:34] <exec> 08└─Do we really need paper? Email, servers, data redundancy, smartphones, tablets, cloud(other people's computer)... Fridges, toilets, seats, cars, waste bins... every freaking thing has a screen now.
[17:07:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Paper? - 06HP to Buy Samsung's Printer Business for $1.05 Billion - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:36] <exec> 08└─In the modern world of DRM and takedown notices (and even just the "here today gone tomorrow" nature of the internet), I'd argue that the usage of paper has become less frequent, but more essential.
[17:07:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02If you can no longer innovate... - 06HP to Buy Samsung's Printer Business for $1.05 Billion - 945 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:07:38] <exec> 08└─...buy up the competition before you run out of cash. HP used to make incredible hardware. I still fondly remember the early LaserJets that just would not die. You discarded them only when they were so out-of-date that you couldn't live without the newer features anymore. Sadly, it has been somethin...
[17:07:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Delwin [4554] (Score:1) 02Re:Halon - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:48] <exec> 08└─You must be talking about Helium, not Halon. Halon is heaver than air. It will also kill you quite quickly.
[17:07:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Halon - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:50] <exec> 08└─Considering the voice like James Earl Jones part, I doubt he was referring to helium.
[17:07:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03quietus [6328] (Score:2) 02cold start - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:07:54] <exec> 08└─The Bank said it required 10 hours to restart its operation due to the magnitude and the complexity of the damage. A cold start of the systems in the disaster recovery site was needed.
[17:08:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Apple is no better - 06Android is a Dead End - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:08:09] <exec> 08└─Not to mention the forks of Android that do give the user back power to control their phone (mostly).
[17:08:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Google is the problem. - 06Android is a Dead End - 741 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:08:34] <exec> 08└─As far as I can tell, Google released Android so the mobile world wasn't locked to a control-freak company that would be guaranteed to implement a non-open experience as soon as they had a big enough market share. Is the control freak company you speak of Microsoft? At the time Android was in develo...
[17:08:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:End user? No problem. - 06Android is a Dead End - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:08:42] <exec> 08└─I know two apple people who don't update because they don't want things moved around or broken.
[17:08:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03goodie [1877] (Score:2) 02Re:Anecdote - 06Android is a Dead End - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:08:52] <exec> 08└─I have tracking which tells me how frequently each OS and paid vs free version is used by the owner
[17:09:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fnord666 [652] (Score:2) 02Re:FDA - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 627 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:13] <exec> 08└─I disagree; AllergyStop appears to be simply providing greater granularity in the dose than what's available through the EpiPen. The inventor isn't innovating on recommended dosage, he's simply providing the accurate dosage for the individual patient; doing so involves a doctor's examination to pick...
[17:09:37] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Of Course Not - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 89 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:37] <exec> 08└─But Humanyze says it doesn't record the content of what people say, just how they say it.
[17:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score:2) 02Re:hardly a badge - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:45] <exec> 08└─horseshit! humans are very clever and through a series of known events, associate data points with individuals. to believe someone won't is just fantasy.
[17:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:hardly a badge - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:47] <exec> 08└─this Waber clown can shove that sensor right up his stupid ass
[17:10:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:mhajicek uses words he doesn't understand - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:46] <exec> 08└─OriginalOwner has redefined these terms so he is no longer wrong. I believe he's still working on the problem of what to do about the rest of us who don't use his definitions.
[17:11:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:''name a significant advancement'' - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 481 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:02] <exec> 08└─Not really so much as what qualifies as "significant" in your teeny-tiny examples doesn't even qualify as a footnote in The Big Book of Capitalism. That was pretty obvious by the counter-examples. At least someone else mentioned FOSS. Also, was the idea of moving the goalpost conceived of by sociali...
[17:11:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Colonialism ruins Everything - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:07] <exec> 08└─I hope you're joking. The pre-colonial history of Africa is rife with slavery, slaughter, revolution, genocide and every other horror visited by people on each other. If you weren't joking, please study up on the old Mali empire, the history of Egypt, Shaka and the Zulu kingdom, and so on. There's p...
[17:11:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Re:If only there was a way to get the money first. - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:21] <exec> 08└─I think most of that has to do with the fact that automation isn't quite there yet.... ...and smaller shops that handle low volume which cant justify the cost of automation.
[17:11:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03quintessence [6227] (Score:2) 02Re:Love Uncle Big Brother Sam! - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 659 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:48] <exec> 08└─Picking a moment in time and stating everything else that follows is directly attributable isn't exactly the same (at least not in the same way the rise of ISIS and ongoing war in the middle east is a direct and ongoing response to US actions after 9/11). Certainly the rise of Japan was due more to...
[17:11:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WTC focus vs the rest - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:57] <exec> 08└─the washington post you say? consider that conspiracy theory thoroughly debunked then. give me a break...
[17:12:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Continuity of Goverment failures, eh? - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:12:17] <exec> 08└─We had no Government for a time post-911? That is surprising. Oh, you meant that there were glitches and incidents where things didn't go according to plan after-911? That's kind of different from saying continuity of government "broke down." Color me surprised that things don't quite go according t...
[17:12:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:" What's in the can?" - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:54] <exec> 08└─> Most of the suspects appear to be women and Moslem women tend to be uneducated because their religion/culture forbids it. Which must be why in Iran's college population is 60% female and engineering grads are 70% female.
[17:15:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why Would They Do Something Like That? - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:05] <exec> 08└─The big three browsers cap HPKP at 60 days. So, while it can screw you over for awhile, it shouldn't be permanent. However, 60 days is a long time on the internet.
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[18:07:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02modestly priced - 06Brian Krebs DDoSed After Exposing VDos Operators; Israeli Authorities Hit Back With Arrests - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:07:18] <exec> 08└─$618,000 for 150,000 attacks works out to $4.12 per attack, on average.
[18:07:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:modestly priced - 06Brian Krebs DDoSed After Exposing VDos Operators; Israeli Authorities Hit Back With Arrests - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:19] <exec> 08└─Volume discounts is where it's at! Just leverage the synergies of vertical scalability ... and profit!
[18:07:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"a usefull old problem" - 06Brian Krebs DDoSed After Exposing VDos Operators; Israeli Authorities Hit Back With Arrests - 1624 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:07:21] <exec> 08└─ermmm, could one not finally use the internet for something good? it seems, that even in a complex digital technology tower reaching the cloudy heights that relies on so many parts of trust meshing together to keep working, that one doesn't use it for something better then waging war? obviously wagi...
[18:07:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"a usefull old problem" - 06Brian Krebs DDoSed After Exposing VDos Operators; Israeli Authorities Hit Back With Arrests - 586 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:23] <exec> 08└─I hope nobody takes your post seriously. The lack of punctuation, capitalization, and proper grammar probably puts off most, but there are a few starry-eyed youngsters who can look past that and I want them to understand that your characterization of cyber-war is so incomplete, inadequate, and flatl...
[18:07:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Paper? - 06HP to Buy Samsung's Printer Business for $1.05 Billion - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:38] <exec> 08└─We need paper because I can't find a cheap e-ink display which would show lots of information at once. Gimme a tablet with a 15+" e-ink screen, I don't care if it weighs a kilogram. I just don't like to scroll all the time. (comment typed on a 40" 4K screen)
[18:07:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Paper? - 06HP to Buy Samsung's Printer Business for $1.05 Billion - 1134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:39] <exec> 08└─I'm sad to report the corporate world is still full of "print this out of program A and type it into program B" manual labor. Also at work, training classes and formal presentations still signal how important they are by printing out the powerpoints that'll be tossed out at the end of the meeting. T...
[18:07:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Halon - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:54] <exec> 08└─When breathing gases that are denser than air, the pitch of one's voice deepens. SF6 is often used for that effect. This video shows several demonstrations of the gas: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[18:07:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Halon - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:55] <exec> 08└─Helium rises, which is often counterproductive when trying to displace O2 to stop a fire. Regardless of which gas, and considering equipment racks are taller than me, a properly designed system should be killing humans if it's doing its job. If you're a basketball player, you may get to die from the...
[18:07:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Halon - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:58] <exec> 08└─They probably mean halon. Possibly, since it's in Romania, but in the US halon has been banned since it's a CFC. There are still some grandfathered installs around but you can't build a new one.
[18:07:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Webweasel [567] (Score:2) 02Re:Halon - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 556 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:00] <exec> 08└─Your a bit out of date: The production of Halon 1301 was banned in 1993, a direct result of its negative effects on the ozone layer. https://nationalfireinc.com [nationalfireinc.com] We use IG-541 Inergen in our data centers, and have had an accidental release...
[18:08:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Dumb title - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 436 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:08:05] <exec> 08└─A massive pressure wave from the rapid release of highly pressurized gas knocked out a data center. Calling it "a loud sound" is technically accurate, as all sound waves are pressure waves in air, but it's terribly misleading in this context. This is like calling the pressure wave after an explosive...
[18:08:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02So, lemme get this straight. - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 1277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:08:07] <exec> 08└─You have a primary datacenter. You have a nearby backup datacenter. You're going to simulate a disaster at the primary data center. You don't switch active operations over to the secondary data center FIRST? You wait until AFTER something goes wrong with your test to move operations to the redundant...
[18:08:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Obligatory Bryan and Brendan link - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:08:09] <exec> 08└─Don't shout at your harddrives! https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[18:08:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Apple is no better - 06Android is a Dead End - 639 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:26] <exec> 08└─Actually, Apple is worse, in that you don't have to jailbreak an Android to sideload an app. If you have the APK file (similar to a Linux tarball) just copy it to the device and click on it with a file manager. Funny, Appalbarry (note the user name, either an Apple shill or fanboi) has all these pro...
[18:08:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Gave Up on Android - 06Android is a Dead End - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:45] <exec> 08└─1. That has not to do with size, but gender. I'm a normal sized man, but I'd have to carry a purse to use a new high-priced phone. (snarky photo about the situation [mcgrew.info]) 2. U had an LG phone back around '04, and as a result I'll never buy another LG product, Worst damned phone I ever used,...
[18:08:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Open source? - 06Android is a Dead End - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:49] <exec> 08└─I used to love the Nvidia drivers (quite a few years back, now), then was stuck with amd machines (mostly hand me downs) since then. amd is supposed to be better supporting of linux, from what i've heard, and nvidia got 'linux unfriendly'... ...my next machine, i hope to build myself and will be loo...
[18:08:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Google is the problem. - 06Android is a Dead End - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:55] <exec> 08└─Is the control freak company you speak of Microsoft?
[18:09:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Android & Apple both. - 06Android is a Dead End - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:03] <exec> 08└─but given *Sighted Folks* couldn't get the phones to work
[18:09:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03fadrian [3194] 02Re:FDA - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 240 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:31] <exec> 08└─Yes, third parties like bond rating agencies that were supposed to watch the ratings of all those AAA mortgage bonds for those banks in the late 2000's. I think that Libertarians have too simple minds - they can't see obvious failure modes.
[18:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:picture of what it looks like... Re:FDA - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:38] <exec> 08└─I've seen a few human beings before, and deducted that if something is so tiny that they don't have to think about it when carrying it, and designed for rare emergencies, I would not trust it to properly deliver a safe product by the time they need it. The epipen being big might cost lives, but it a...
[18:11:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Has Communism worked anywhere? - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:26] <exec> 08└─If offshoring moved capital from rich country to poor country, there would be no reason for businesses to do it.
[18:12:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Love Uncle Big Brother Sam! - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:09] <exec> 08└─the mossad probably were the ones that wired the buildings up. they are highly skilled in this area and would have the ability to gain access via friendly channels.
[18:12:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WTC focus vs the rest - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 2534 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:16] <exec> 08└─As coroner, responsible for returning human remains, Miller has been forced to share with the families information that is unimaginable. As he clinically recounts to them, holding back very few details, the 33 passengers, seven crew and four hijackers together weighed roughly 7,000 pounds. They were...
[18:12:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WTC focus vs the rest - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 379 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:23] <exec> 08└─there was plenty of footage of the pentagon missile strike and probably more of wtc 7 controlled demolition, but it was confiscated by the feds. The lease holder larry silverstein is on video saying it was a controlled demolition but that's not what the 9/11 commission report says nor the media, nor...
[18:12:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WTC focus vs the rest - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 1049 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:26] <exec> 08└─Simply because the news media are based in NY, and historically, anything that happens in NYC is greatly exaggerated in importance. Think back on a top 10 list of greatest sports moments in football and baseball. How many of them involve NY teams? Most of them. Winning on a walk-off home run happens...
[18:12:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Was Bin Laden that crafty? - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 645 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:33] <exec> 08└─i've never heard any "conspiracy theorists"suggest that the military exercises made intervention more convenient. you're either a liar or an idiot, or listening to the wackiest of crackpots and then thinking that's the standard line. People have suggested that military exercises sometimes accompany...
[18:12:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:conspiracy....not so much... - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 651 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:44] <exec> 08└─oh yeah, companies get paid big money to bring down buildings in a crowed metropolis without damaging other buildings and they go to great lengths to do so, but all they had to do all along was crash a couple of planes randomly into the side of the buildings and they would just fall on their own foo...
[18:13:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:" What's in the can?" - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:22] <exec> 08└─That is a very sweeping and inaccurate statement. Are you suggesting the Muslim girls in the UK, France or Germany don't attend school, or go on to university. If you are, you are wrong. Some countries that have Muslim governments or are currently suffering at the hands of radical Muslim groups may...
[18:15:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Remember - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:15:22] <exec> 08└─I have two web sites. There is no login, no ads, no cookies, and the tiniest bit of javascript to send phones to a phone-friendly page. There is absolutely no need whatever for either site to have HTTPS, so why should I go to the trouble? That's just nuts. Yes, if you need a password to get into a s...
[18:15:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Let's Encrypt rate limits - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 605 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:15:36] <exec> 08└─Well, I was one of the lucky few who made the initial cut for my dyn dns provider but they just got whitelisted recently as well, so I'd be okay now even if I weren't lucky at the outset. My best advice is to pick an already whitelisted provider and redirect to that domain name if you already had an...
[18:15:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score:2) 02Re:bullshit - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:15:46] <exec> 08└─I'm stuck at bith the rock and the hard place.. Both in that O12 refuses any letsencrypt-certs ans´d that some of my old routers still using ssl old enough (only inside a lan) that it requires me to tell firefox to violate security in order to use it.. So basically I'm at the point of needing four...
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[19:07:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:3, Funny) 02Yay, a microsoft update! - 06Microsoft Officially Releases Skype 1.7 for Linux - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:07:27] <exec> 08└─The main question is whether it will start downloading and installing Win10 in the background, or just install "telemetry" tailored to your specific distro...
[19:07:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:Yay, a microsoft update! - 06Microsoft Officially Releases Skype 1.7 for Linux - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:28] <exec> 08└─It bundles a Blue Screen screensaver to remind you of the good ole days of Windows 9x. Clippy NOT included.
[19:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Linux is a Dead End - 06Microsoft Officially Releases Skype 1.7 for Linux - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:07:30] <exec> 08└─There's Microsoft in my Linux! Linux done gone mundane! I must install something else on my rig now, something that's still l33t enough for basement dwellers! Help me nerds! You're my only hope!
[19:07:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02who cares..? - 06Microsoft Officially Releases Skype 1.7 for Linux - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:07:32] <exec> 08└─dumped skype onto my lame laptop. I dont care , unless they put the source on gitub, I'll treat it like spyware. Trust is not a fixed quantity , but an empirical determination of risk. M$ blew theirs decades ago, and then we got Snowden who set the entire industry on the back bench. I recommend usin...
[19:07:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:That sucks - 06HP to Buy Samsung's Printer Business for $1.05 Billion - 352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:55] <exec> 08└─I got a LaserJet IIP out of the local rubbish dump ("Recycling Centre") about 15 years ago, and cleaned it up. It worked perfectly for 6 years or so until it finally went south. I had to buy a new toner cartridge for it. The guy at the dump took £4 for his favourite charity (beer and snacks IIRC) i...
[19:08:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Paper? - 06HP to Buy Samsung's Printer Business for $1.05 Billion - 547 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:00] <exec> 08└─Government agencies and military use faxes heavily too. Sometimes these are "virtualized" (fax-to-email etc) but not usually. When I was doing major shipping 2-3 years ago, still needed printing for Bills of Lading and stuff. It needs to be something that can travel with the driver, and when the dri...
[19:08:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Paper? - 06HP to Buy Samsung's Printer Business for $1.05 Billion - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:03] <exec> 08└─Do we really need paper? Email, servers, data redundancy, smartphones, tablets, cloud(other people's computer)... Fridges, toilets, seats, cars, waste bins... every freaking thing has a screen now.
[19:08:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Paper? - 06HP to Buy Samsung's Printer Business for $1.05 Billion - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:05] <exec> 08└─I don't know about you, but if I read lengthy text on a screen my eyes start hurting. If anything over a page long it important, I print it so I can read it.
[19:08:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:If you can no longer innovate... - 06HP to Buy Samsung's Printer Business for $1.05 Billion - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:08] <exec> 08└─HPLJ4-life Had one of those plugged into a bad power socket. Ended up grounding through the parallel cable into the PC. PC got fried, HPLJ4 worked fine once it was plugged into a good power socket.
[19:08:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:cold start - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:28] <exec> 08└─Seriously. Completely off backup site? No way. Maybe the article writer just did not understand what "cold start" meant and decided to use a word that sounds technical.
[19:08:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnampff [5658] (Score:2) 02Re:So, lemme get this straight. - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:31] <exec> 08└─Of course they dont switch over to the fallback before the test. What is the point of a fallback if you cant use it as fallback AFTER the crash? It is sitting there for exactly this purpose. And obviously their procedures were crap and need some tuning so their secondary system actually does what it...
[19:08:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03coolgopher [1157] 02Re:Appalbarry is the dead end - 06Android is a Dead End - 857 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:50] <exec> 08└─I must disagree with you on this. I mean, have you looked at what's available on the (smart)phone front these days? It's slim pickings, that's for sure. With Apple you get a pretty, walled garden with prison wardens looking after you. With Android you get a wild-growing field with scarecrows monitor...
[19:08:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03everdred [110] (Score:2) 02Re:Appalbarry is the dead end - 06Android is a Dead End - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:53] <exec> 08└─This precisely. Android is really good about allowing third-party applications to provide what would be considered core system functionality on another OS... without having to even root the device.
[19:08:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03everdred [110] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree with the most important points - 06Android is a Dead End - 920 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:57] <exec> 08└─> The operating system is baked into the hardward. While there are limitations like closed drivers, that doesn't seem to have stopped community ROMs from appearing for many Android devices. The OS is very much not baked-in. > Eliminate Google apps from an Android phone? (...) Not possible. This is t...
[19:09:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Gave Up on Android - 06Android is a Dead End - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:07] <exec> 08└─Sony aren't as bad as I've heard? I really doubt that. Presumably you mean something like "they do update their OS", but I can't tell for sure. I do know that I'm unlikely to trust them enough to find out. It's a real pity. Sony was once a quality company. Then it bought a media company...and the co...
[19:09:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Gave Up on Android - 06Android is a Dead End - 946 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:11] <exec> 08└─He meant 4" obviously, as Apple makes two devices smaller than 5" and nobody else even participates in that category anymore, much less provides up to date specs and software updates. I was just in the Apple store and I admit, the 4" SE felt great and I can catch and palm a regulation basketball one...
[19:09:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03ShadowSystems [6185] (Score:1) 02Re:Android & Apple both. - 06Android is a Dead End - 492 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:29] <exec> 08└─I *AM* Totally Blind. I've demonstrated this fact repeatedly before in my posting history. It states this fact in my bio blurb. It says so on my photo ID & restates it on the Disabled Parking placqard I carry when I'm getting a ride so the driver can park in the disabled spots without getting a tick...
[19:09:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:Android & Apple both. - 06Android is a Dead End - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:31] <exec> 08└─jmorris, you are an inspiration to trolliollioes everywhere ! *if only* they were as accomplished as you in uttering insane inanities...
[19:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:End user? No problem. - 06Android is a Dead End - 511 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:35] <exec> 08└─Yeah. You buy the phone and you like the way it is and you've accepted the bugs and flaws. Then you "upgrade" and stuff often breaks and the new stuff often doesn't really benefit you that much. With my phone I foolishly "upgraded" and I lost the app permission control feature. Yeah security is an i...
[19:09:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Android Development Model... - 06Android is a Dead End - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:38] <exec> 08└─It is semi bad but way better than it used to be. At least you do not have to have your application vetted out on 30 different phones before the phone company will allow you to sell the app.
[19:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:Missing details? - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:52] <exec> 08└─i dont know, apparently hundreds of thousands of heroin/etc addicts apparently manage to do so, even in prison... because of bee sting allergy, used to carry epipen in glove compartment, came in a little red plastic case that was semi durable, semi crushproof...
[19:10:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Of Course Not - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:27] <exec> 08└─Both of those claims are probably true ... for now. The camel's nose under the tent is one way of putting it. Other's say the thin wedge. Both metaphors capture certain features of the process. The "thin wedge" emphasizes that at first it's a minimal intrusion. The "camel's nose" emphasizes the inte...
[19:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:newspeak - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:34] <exec> 08└─They can't call it "DeHumanize" because trademarks aren't allowed to be descriptive. (Well, that used to be the rule. I'm not sure it's still enforced.)
[19:11:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] 02Re:Has Communism worked anywhere? - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 138 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:26] <exec> 08└─Better question: Has Communism ever existed? Answer: Nope. Communism: A way to dupe the people into accepting a totalitarian dictatorship.
[19:11:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:mhajicek uses words he doesn't understand - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 2236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:38] <exec> 08└─Totalitarianism is a GOVERNMENTAL form. Power is concentrated in a few individuals. DPRK is an example of this and it is a dictatorship with familial inheritance of the top position. In Saudi Arabia, they call that a kingdom. In each of those countries, you have a strict top-down system. The king al...
[19:11:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:mhajicek uses words he doesn't understand - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:39] <exec> 08└─Software can be duplicated practically for free. You write it once, and then everyone can have it for almost no additional cost, and you also still have it. If a farmer grows enough food for ten families, you take it all and distribute it among 100 families, his family starves. Have you heard of the...
[19:11:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:''Lack of democracy will screw up any system'' - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 839 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:56] <exec> 08└─In many sectors you really don't need much innovation. Just the obvious evolutionary improvements would be enough. Take the finance industry for instance. Think about how many of those fancy innovations ("High-Grade Structured Credit Enhanced Leveraged Funds", HFTs, derivatives, loosely/not disguise...
[19:13:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Was Bin Laden that crafty? - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 964 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:08] <exec> 08└─For another perspective on it - one of our friend's husband at the time was a Farsi speaking FBI agent, and the night before the attacks he was relocated to San Francisco because "something big was going down," and they knew it had some thing to do with SanFran, so they sent him there. One of the to...
[19:15:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score:2) 025300 offenders and no charges? - 06Wells Fargo Fined Over Unauthorized Accounts - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:17] <exec> 08└─Am I reading all this correctly...that 5300 emplpyees were doing this and all that happened was that they were fired?? I've yet to read about any charges being pressed. So basically if you work there you can attempt bank robbery with the only downside risk being loss of your job? I mean FFS.
[19:15:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03theluggage [1797] 02Its deja-vu all over again - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 76 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:56] <exec> 08└─Remember when google was the cool search engine that helped you find things?
[19:17:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Department of Education - 06Never let a Crisis go to Waste: CDC Using Zika Virus to Expand Authority - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:17:23] <exec> 08└─The problem was mostly that the smugglers were not catching 100% of their "hot loads of soda," some of it was making it onto store shelves, so there was a big public health concern that somebody might open a can of soda, drink it and die.
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[20:07:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:who cares..? - 06Microsoft Officially Releases Skype 1.7 for Linux - 554 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:24] <exec> 08└─I dumped Skype years ago when Google Hangouts would let me video chat on Linux (with Chrome browser) and Android. Friends / Family could all use Windows / Mac / Android tablets and phones. It just seemed like a win to be able to video chat with everyone on any platform, and especially the ones we ac...
[20:07:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score:3, Informative) 02Misleading summary? - 06Microsoft Officially Releases Skype 1.7 for Linux - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:07:25] <exec> 08└─Is the summary implying that there is a native GNU/Linux client for Skype? That would be news indeed. Last I read, that had been completely canceled and eliminated. In fact, calls to and from the old GNU/Linux client [sourcedigit.com] can't be made with the new client. Instead M$ is pushing a webrtc...
[20:07:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:"a usefull old problem" - 06Brian Krebs DDoSed After Exposing VDos Operators; Israeli Authorities Hit Back With Arrests - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:36] <exec> 08└─Not to mention all the run-on sentences. I said, don't mention them!
[20:07:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:That sucks - 06HP to Buy Samsung's Printer Business for $1.05 Billion - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:50] <exec> 08└─The cheap laser printers as trash now too. They are essentially a network-attached frame-buffer. (300dpi(squared) X 8.5" X 11"=10.5MB per page (1bpp)). Why that has to be all secret and proprietary, I don't know. The Eurion constelation [wikipedia.org] may have something to do with it.
[20:07:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:That sucks - 06HP to Buy Samsung's Printer Business for $1.05 Billion - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:52] <exec> 08└─Was you 90's HP a 550 or 560? I had the 550 and it gave me years of good service.
[20:08:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:Paper? - 06HP to Buy Samsung's Printer Business for $1.05 Billion - 466 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:01] <exec> 08└─My pet peeve is that computers are inherently insecure. Imagine for a moment that you wanted to design a secure computer. Where would you store your correctness proofs? The solution I am leaning towards is microfiche. It is compact (260 pages per post-card sized sheet), has a long shelf-life (250 ye...
[20:08:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bradley13 [3053] 02If you can no longer innovate... - 06HP to Buy Samsung's Printer Business for $1.05 Billion - 945 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:08:03] <exec> 08└─...buy up the competition before you run out of cash. HP used to make incredible hardware. I still fondly remember the early LaserJets that just would not die. You discarded them only when they were so out-of-date that you couldn't live without the newer features anymore. Sadly, it has been somethin...
[20:08:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Halon - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:19] <exec> 08└─a properly designed system should be killing humans if it's doing its job.
[20:08:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03weeds [611] (Score:2) 02Re:Halon - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:20] <exec> 08└─Halon - Not at 100% concentration, just enough to put out a fire. That won't kill you. I was in the room too. Denser than air = lower voice.
[20:08:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:More info, in case you were left wondering - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:26] <exec> 08└─Why not post the whole article in case people were left wondering?
[20:08:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Dumb title - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:31] <exec> 08└─A massive pressure wave from the rapid release of highly pressurized gas knocked out a data center.
[20:08:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:So, lemme get this straight. - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:36] <exec> 08└─when all your processing is down and people are screaming at you to bring it back up, which is undoubtedly what was happening here
[20:08:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Apple is no better - 06Android is a Dead End - 900 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:53] <exec> 08└─My only problem with Android is the damned thing crashes. It's worse than a 20th century copy of Windows. I thought it was my cheap kyocera phone's hardware, but since have bought two Samsung tablets, both of which crash as often as the phone. I have a Galaxy S4 that I've had for about a year now. I...
[20:08:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Apple is no better - 06Android is a Dead End - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:54] <exec> 08└─Wait, your kids prefer Android, but continue to use Apple, why? Are they worried other kids are going to make fun of them or something? There's a simple solution to this: get them the phone you want them to have and think is the best choice for them, since that's your job as a parent. If they want s...
[20:09:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03letssee [2537] (Score:1) 02Re:Appalbarry is the dead end - 06Android is a Dead End - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:01] <exec> 08└─Except that a lot of functionality you'd consider 'core os functionality' is moved from aosp to google apps. So if you use just the open source parts you get rather a second rate experience.
[20:09:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03everdred [110] (Score:2) 02Re:Appalbarry is the dead end - 06Android is a Dead End - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:03] <exec> 08└─You know, I've been hearing comments like this for years and I'm not sure I understand which niceties I'd personally be missing out on if I chose to go AOSP-only. (For one thing, I know about the "Google Now" combination home screen/launcher/voice search, which I've replaced with an open-source loca...
[20:09:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02My dumb phone set me back $14.99 - 06Android is a Dead End - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:05] <exec> 08└─It makes and receives calls, and sends and receives texts. I don't text a whole lot except for one friend who's heavily into texting. I used to have an iPhone. If I got another I would develop apps for it but otherwise I wouldn't use it.
[20:09:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Not unique - 06Android is a Dead End - 1148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:08] <exec> 08└─I "like" Android mostly in that I dislike it less than I dislike Apple products (and their ridiculous locked-down-ness and even more ridiculous prices). It's not just that: Apple products are *objectively* inferior. The new iPhone 7 still comes with a crappy LCD screen, for instance, rather than th...
[20:09:52] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Zinho [759] 02Re:crowdfund it - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 1614 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:53] <exec> 08└─RTFA. [allergystopnow.com] I know, that's an odd request around here. The website is a frontend to the inventor's Indiegogo campaign, [indiegogo.com] where he's asking for donations of $50 to get a T-shirt reward or $250 for an injector capsule following FDA approval; as a result, the practical cost...
[20:10:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] 02Re:Seriously - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 340 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:13] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, the times you urgently need a shot of epinephrine, are also the times when it is incredibly difficult to measure out an accurate amount of it from a vial and syringe it into yourself (or someone else). The point of the pen is that the dose is pre-measured and auto-injected for those i...
[20:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Seriously - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:21] <exec> 08└─It seems to me that sterility goes out the window when you inject someone through their pants leg.
[20:11:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:mhajicek uses words he doesn't understand - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:45] <exec> 08└─Totalitarianism is a GOVERNMENTAL form. . . Communism is Socialism perfected. . . Socialism is an ECONOMIC system which overlaps into governmental forms.
[20:12:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't screw it up... - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:17] <exec> 08└─Exactly. However, at least here in the US, the problem will be that naysayers will point to those F-ed up people to justify not having this, or any other social services at all really, as they do now.
[20:12:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] (Score:2) 02Re:If only there was a way to get the money first. - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:24] <exec> 08└─anybody on a decent wage
[20:12:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:If only there was a way to get the money first. - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 477 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:30] <exec> 08└─This isn't complicated, in theory: Who to tax: The incredibly wealthy who are making hundreds of millions while barely lifting a finger. How to tax them: Tax capital gains at the same rate as all other income. If that doesn't do the job, remove the absolutely absurd cap on how much income is subject...
[20:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Dysfunction - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:28] <exec> 08└─This is the government I recognize, a basket of haplessness. This was one event, too. Imagine general unrest: it would come unglued at the seams.
[20:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Morons - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:47] <exec> 08└─You should never go to Australia, kurenai. Genital mutilation seems to be a widely practiced thing amoung humans! Not to mention Crayon Shin-chan. "Zoooo-chan!"
[20:14:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:well, let's see - 06A Guide to Buying Edible Insects - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:25] <exec> 08└─Bacon++ is supposed to be unclean, too.
[20:14:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Turtle-turtle - 06A Guide to Buying Edible Insects - 1621 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:29] <exec> 08└─Shhhhh! It's supposed to be a secret that small cute animals are also tasty...... Squirrels, Guinea pigs, rabbits, coons, etc. are all good eating. Plus, you can make clothing from the furs. Although, I don't recommend leaving the heads on. Kinda drives the PETA people into a special frenzied form o...
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[21:07:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02first torrent - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:07:13] <exec> 08└─I deserve unlimited-speed torrents for free, because dumb pipes!</discussion>
[21:07:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02FTFY - 06Microsoft Officially Releases Skype 1.7 for Linux - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:07:27] <exec> 08└─"Microsoft has just released a new version of Skype for Linux, once again addressing many of the reported bugs, but also introducing some new bugs that certainly will frustrate those on the platform." FTFY
[21:07:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02"Just released"? - 06Microsoft Officially Releases Skype 1.7 for Linux - 2022 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:07:28] <exec> 08└─~ $ equo search skype ╠ @@ Searching... ╠ @@ Package: dev-python/skype4py-1.0.35-r1 branch: 5, [sabayon-weekly] ╠ Available: version: 1.0.35-r1 ~ tag: NoTag ~ revision: 3 ╠ Installed: version: Not installed ~ tag: n/a ~ revision: n/a ╠ Slot: 0 ╠ Homepage: http...
[21:07:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Appalbarry [66] (Score:2) 02Downloads Here - 06Microsoft Officially Releases Skype 1.7 for Linux - 543 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:07:30] <exec> 08└─Yeesh. A download link [skype.com] would have been nice. For those who care, a) It installed easily on my Mint box b) As far as I can tell it's audio only, not video c) The actual UI looks like about 1998 d) There was some confusion because I tried to sign in using my email address (which works if y...
[21:07:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03halcyon1234 [1082] (Score:2) 02Enough self-applying rope - 06Brian Krebs DDoSed After Exposing vDos Operators; Israeli Authorities Hit Back With Arrests - 398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:07:42] <exec> 08└─I'd like to applaud the fine fellows at vDos for doing an excellent job of being complete morons. Idiot 1: "We're doing an amazing job at bilking people who don't know any better. Who should our next target be?" Idiot 2: "How about one of the best and most high-profile security researches who ha...
[21:08:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If you can no longer innovate... - 06HP to Buy Samsung's Printer Business for $1.05 Billion - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:08] <exec> 08└─Apple is about the only consumer electronics hardware company I know that even tries to have a reputation for (relative) longevity these days. The rest seem to go for pump-and-dump. It seems to work for Apple, so why don't more try it?
[21:08:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Halon - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:26] <exec> 08└─Supposedly halon extinguishes fires at a low enough concentration that you can stay in the room for at least some amount of time and still be okay. Not that you'd probably *want* to, but yeah.
[21:08:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Halon - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 2592 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:27] <exec> 08└─I am seriously doubting it was Halon in the dump of 'inert gas', and wonder about your co-workers. Halon is a toxic chemical and is a central nervous system irritant. Wikipedia has all the relevant details. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] I would expect the gas to...
[21:08:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fnord666 [652] (Score:2) 02Re:Halon - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:31] <exec> 08└─They probably mean halon.
[21:09:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Open source? - 06Android is a Dead End - 729 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:30] <exec> 08└─You're correct that Nvidia was quite unfreindly to *nix users for awhile. I think that when you look at it again, they've gotten much better. It is STILL tricky though, because you have so many different Nvidia drivers and setup scripts. I've found that the cleanest install comes from downloading th...
[21:11:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Has Communism worked anywhere? - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:32] <exec> 08└─The markets crashed because the producers of food and clothing gave food and clothing to the poor for free, which reduced the market value of food and clothing to zero, and then the producers became the poor themselves.
[21:11:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:Has Communism worked anywhere? - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:34] <exec> 08└─Unlike money, those things have to come from somewhere. Of course, for money to be accepted, it has to be in limited supply.
[21:11:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:mhajicek uses words he doesn't understand - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:48] <exec> 08└─Communists call such top-down state-directed economies "State capitalism." They are considering the whole economy to be like a business. In more capitalist countries, businesses rarely take direction from the workers.
[21:13:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Was Bin Laden that crafty? - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:10] <exec> 08└─Well, we all know about the "Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US" memo, and there were other hints. The situation is likely to get worse with the "collect it all" attitude in full swing, leading to intelligence overload.
[21:15:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Doesn't matter who you bank with - 06Wells Fargo Fined Over Unauthorized Accounts - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:15:15] <exec> 08└─I know in Maryland unemployment is doled out via debit cards as well.
[21:16:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Its deja-vu all over again - 06Google to Start Punishing HTTP-Only Sites - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:16:07] <exec> 08└─Flagging all HTTP sites seems like a step too far right now. I don't think they've committed to a firm timetable. If rolled out after the vast majority of sites are already HTTPS, I could see it not contributing to the effect you're worried about.
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[22:07:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:first torrent - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:07] <exec> 08└─What ISP is going to give you a connection for free? Most of us have to pay for a connection for our unlimited torrents.
[22:07:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:first torrent - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:09] <exec> 08└─Verizon. Buy device prepaid, don't activate it, enjoy unlimited data.
[22:07:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"Data cap" what is that? - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:07:11] <exec> 08└─If you're not skilled enough to bypass a data cap, you don't belong here.
[22:07:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Data cap" what is that? - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:13] <exec> 08└─Are you mad that no one modded your "Fr1st P0st" down yet, so you thought you'd make things more "personal" to get your desired downmod? I, for one, won't waste my mod points on you.
[22:07:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Data cap" what is that? - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:15] <exec> 08└─Are you mad because you're not skilled enough to bypass a data cap?
[22:07:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Data cap" what is that? - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:17] <exec> 08└─Not so much. My ISP doesn't impose data caps. Kisses, darling!
[22:07:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Data cap" what is that? - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:20] <exec> 08└─Kumbaya my lord, kumbayaaaa. Any argument that applies to a narrow group of people is a garbage argument. SN users come from all walks of life, it isn't some elitist club where everyone is a master of all things computer... Even those that are computer whizzes should feel some obligation to help out...
[22:07:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Data Caps exist for only one reason - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 625 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:07:22] <exec> 08└─It's not because of network congestion. The reason for data caps is to limit how much you can stream. But if there isn't a congestion issue, they why limit streaming? Ta da . . . In order to charge money on the other end to streaming providers to be "Zero Rated". Basically because they have a monopo...
[22:07:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Comcast screwed up - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:07:24] <exec> 08└─They upped their data cap from 300gb to 1tb, for some reason I doubt it was because they upgraded their network to handle it and just realized that their artificial limits were losing them sales. Invest the money you fuckers stole decades ago! Give us fiber and drop the prices. If not, then I think...
[22:07:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Informative) 02Wholesale IP Transit Costs - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:07:26] <exec> 08└─Bandwidth is ridiculously cheap. I mean crazy cheap. Especially in bulk. And it keeps getting cheaper each year. Here are some recent bulk IP transit costs: [streamingmedia.com] 10Gbps: $0.85 – $1.10 Mbps 20Gbps: $0.75 – $0.95 Mbps 40Gbps: $0.62 – $0.80 Mbps 75Gbps: $0.55 – $0.70 Mbps 100Gb...
[22:07:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Wholesale IP Transit Costs - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:28] <exec> 08└─Wow you remind me of the whiners back in the day who didn't want to pay their phone bills while Bell Labs was inventing Unix.
[22:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Re:Wholesale IP Transit Costs - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:30] <exec> 08└─Are you new at this trolling thing, or just not very bright? Because you're doing a terrible job. Heck, no one's even modded you down. Keep at it, you might get better.
[22:07:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wholesale IP Transit Costs - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 424 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:32] <exec> 08└─Because one must be a troll to remind you that there are costs beyond supporting existing infrastructure. Someone needs to do R&D or technology never advances. Revenue to pay for R&D has to come from somewhere, like say, customers actually paying their bills for a little more than just the service t...
[22:07:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wholesale IP Transit Costs - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:35] <exec> 08└─Lol. Comcast, et al don't do R&D. The closest they come to that are limited test deployments of new tech from their vendors as trial runs before rolling it out to all of their customers. Weak troll is weak.
[22:07:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wholesale IP Transit Costs - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 358 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:37] <exec> 08└─You really have no idea who you're dealing with, do you? Then again, I am posting AC. If I'm not older than you, sweetie pie, than you're already eligible for social security. I was there at the dawn of the third age of mankind... Poor schmuck. I feel sorry for you. You can do better. I know you can...
[22:07:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wholesale IP Transit Costs - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 419 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:39] <exec> 08└─Ya I'm not going to log in and waste my points on that lame of a troll... For some reason when a company abuses their monopoly status the people tend to go the other extreme. They know they are being ripped off, so they say fuck it might as well steal some back. You'll always have some theft, but wi...
[22:07:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wholesale IP Transit Costs - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:41] <exec> 08└─Scumcast is evil! We all knows it. Mod me up bro cuz I totally share all your beliefs.
[22:07:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Retarded - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 1336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:07:43] <exec> 08└─Yea, lets forget the reason why BROADCAST is more efficient than streaming, lets forget economics, nothing is more important than removing any obstacles to Netflix's profitability. And lets forget about engineering and technology, we are just going to declare ourselves in a 'post scarcity economy' n...
[22:07:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Retarded - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 533 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:45] <exec> 08└─> No. Bandwidth is not unlimited, it is not free. Attempts to declare it to be so will only make it more expensive and scarce. And yet decades of largely unmetered ISP service have proven exactly the opposite. Bob Metcalf was making the same reductivist arguments back in the 90s. At least he had the...
[22:07:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Retarded - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:48] <exec> 08└─Wow, now that is one of the best smackdowns I've seen in a while! Begone industry shills! The Hubble telescope was cheaper to talk to than anyone through the telecom industry...
[22:07:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Appalbarry [66] (Score:2) 02Pay for Usage - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 620 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:07:50] <exec> 08└─What I don't get is why ISPs, CableCos etc don't do what electric, water, and even (historically) phone companies have done for decades: just charge for usage. (OK, they're greedy bastards etc, I know....) Eliminate all of the mess of favored and unfavored traffic types, streaming vs downloads, Netf...
[22:07:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pay for Usage - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:52] <exec> 08└─Because bandwidth costs are a tiny component of total costs. If your electric bill is $90 for overhead and $5 for electricity why even bother metering in the first place? Metering itself has a cost and is surprisingly hard to get right. Save money all around and just skip it. That's been working gre...
[22:07:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pay for Usage - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:54] <exec> 08└─Yeah no there's too much hidden usage that I'm not directly responsible for and I don't want to pay overages just because some autoupdater decided to upgrade everything in the background yet again.
[22:08:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] (Score:2) 02ubuntu's on 4.3.0.37 - 06Microsoft Officially Releases Skype 1.7 for Linux - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:08:09] <exec> 08└─Yup, running Skype 4.3.0.37 here from the official website. And if you go to skype.com and download the linux client from there, that's the version you'll get. Sooooo.. is this extremely old news? Is this alpha-specific numbering? Softpedia has a blog post on 3rd of September about Skype alpha 1.6 f...
[22:08:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] (Score:2) 02Re:ubuntu's on 4.3.0.37 - 06Microsoft Officially Releases Skype 1.7 for Linux - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:08:11] <exec> 08└─(sorry, reply to self) answers [skype.com]. Turns out Skype is developing an Alpha version for linux, which (judging by the link's download-url) is indeed based on web instead of a full skype client. And yes: "Skype for Linux Alpha" has different version numbering from "Skype for Linux", because. (w...
[22:08:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Downloads Here - 06Microsoft Officially Releases Skype 1.7 for Linux - 802 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:08:14] <exec> 08└─Sometimes, a fat client actually has features that work, and works independently of the browser installed. I could use something that has javascript disabled, for example, and it might still function. I would rather have a client installed to launch when I need it, than some plug in running constant...
[22:08:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score:2) 02Skype's info on the matter - 06Microsoft Officially Releases Skype 1.7 for Linux - 2667 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:08:16] <exec> 08└─As Softpedia isn't really a primary news source, here's some info closer to home. On the Skype download page, at least when using Linux, there is a link to "Find out about early access to Skype for Linux Alpha" [skype.com] (this link requires Skype login). It opens an article dated July 13th. 2016,...
[22:08:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:modestly priced - 06Brian Krebs DDoSed After Exposing vDos Operators; Israeli Authorities Hit Back With Arrests - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:08:26] <exec> 08└─Yea this is one of the problems with DDOS attacks: they are dirt cheap. Hell even kids can afford to buy attacks against other online game players to knock them offline and out of a match. Happens all the time thanks to many console games using P2P instead of dedicated servers for multiplayer.
[22:08:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"a usefull old problem" - 06Brian Krebs DDoSed After Exposing vDos Operators; Israeli Authorities Hit Back With Arrests - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:08:32] <exec> 08└─Like porn?
[22:08:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Enough self-applying rope - 06Brian Krebs DDoSed After Exposing vDos Operators; Israeli Authorities Hit Back With Arrests - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:08:35] <exec> 08└─In their defense they never stood a chance with names like 'Idiot 1' and 'Idiot 2'. Their parents should have seen this coming.
[22:09:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Halon - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:17] <exec> 08└─No. It should not be killing humans. Some places use a reduced oxygen environment (15% rather than the usual 20) to prevent fire. It's perfectly safe for any reasonably healthy person to be in the room for a while as long as they don't do heavy labor.
[22:09:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Halon - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:19] <exec> 08└─One could easily argue that being in a server room during an unexpected halon release, especially if there's a real fire, would be a stress level that qualifies as hard labor. (I did give VLM a +1 for his detailed response. I thought the O2 displacement was higher than 5%)
[22:09:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Halon - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 1120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:24] <exec> 08└─For example, Halon 1301 total flooding systems are typically used at concentrations no higher than 7% by volume in air, and can suppress many fires at 2.9% v/v. By contrast, carbon dioxide fire suppression flood systems operate from 34% concentration by volume (surface-only combustion of liquid fuel...
[22:09:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Halon - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:28] <exec> 08└─It's production was banned, but many systems installed before that still have it. For years after, there was a grey market for halon in tanks removed from decommissioned or updated data centers.
[22:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Re:Apple is no better - 06Android is a Dead End - 949 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:56] <exec> 08└─My Galaxy S4 is three years old next month, and continues to work as well as the day I bought it. I've heard lots of complaints about Touch Wiz over the years, but I've never had a problem with it. The battery started to go bad last year, so I bought a new one for $20 (local dollars, worth less than...
[22:11:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Dunbal [3515] 02Re:Seriously - 06AllergyStop: $50 EpiPen is Production-Ready but... - 50 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:09] <exec> 08└─the times you urgently need a shot of epinephrine,
[22:11:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Of Course Not - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:29] <exec> 08└─I did not find in the article where the HR reps were OK with the tool being used to monitor their own behavior.
[22:11:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:In other news - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:59] <exec> 08└─Where do you work where they didn't install cameras already? I thought this was to make sure they got the audio, too.
[22:12:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:mhajicek uses words he doesn't understand - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:12:44] <exec> 08└─To be clear, are you asserting that the USSR, Communist China, and the DPRK were all models of "State capitalism" immediately post-revolution? My understanding was that each of those countries was, in their own way, attempting to implement the uprising of the proletariat and establishment of a Commu...
[22:13:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''finance industry [...] innovation'' - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 576 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:03] <exec> 08└─HFTs, derivatives [don't] provide a net benefit to the rest of us Yup. Those are simply ways for the powerful to game the system. Snake oil. disguised money laundering Yup. we might be better off if stuff like banks were run by boring cooperatives instead of "innovative" corporations No "might" abou...
[22:14:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:Was Bin Laden that crafty? - 06Confusion and Protocol Failure on 9/11 - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:06] <exec> 08└─Bin laden was an engineer. I believe there was an engineer on each of the hi-jacked planes. That, coupled with gravity generally pulling things straight downwards, does not make such apparently controlled destruction so hard to believe.
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[23:07:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Finally! - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:07:01] <exec> 08└─:q![return] $ emacs [gnu.org][return] all the vi(m) you'll ever need to know!
[23:07:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Dead end. - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:02] <exec> 08└─You are at a dead end of a dirt road. The road goes to the east. In the distance you can see that it will eventually fork off. The trees here are very tall royal palms, and they are spaced equidistant from each other. There is a shovel here. >
[23:07:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Dead end. - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:04] <exec> 08└─>get shovel
[23:07:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dead end. - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:07] <exec> 08└─>get shovel You pick up the shovel. >
[23:07:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Dead end. - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 5 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:09] <exec> 08└─>east
[23:07:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dead end. - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:11] <exec> 08└─Boulder here. More trees.
[23:07:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Emacs Fight Club - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:13] <exec> 08└─His name is Robert Toukmond. His name is Robert Toukmond. His name is Robert Toukmond.
[23:07:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02if vim is here... - 06Vim 8.0 Released - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:07:15] <exec> 08└─...can vigor be far behind ? ? ?
[23:07:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Data cap" what is that? - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:31] <exec> 08└─Do tell. Considering my ISP counts each individual frame regardless of content, tell me how I would get around that? Even SYN packets dropped by my firewall and retransmissions increase my data usage amount.
[23:07:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:"Data cap" what is that? - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:33] <exec> 08└─um, i missed the entry exam, dr strange...
[23:07:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wholesale IP Transit Costs - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:43] <exec> 08└─Dawn of the third age of mankind ... was in 1993. I remember it well. Not much of a boast to demonstrate advanced age.
[23:07:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wholesale IP Transit Costs - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:45] <exec> 08└─Babylon 5 was good. But this is the third age of mankind [midlifeunlimited.com] You're improving slightly. Keep working on it. Kissy Kissy!
[23:07:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wholesale IP Transit Costs - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:47] <exec> 08└─A little better troll. Have you heard of something called patents?
[23:07:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wholesale IP Transit Costs - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 379 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:49] <exec> 08└─Ah the good ol' brainwashed free market capitalist hard at work. "What else do you think they do with all that extra money? It has to go somewhere!" yes, right into the pockets of a handful of people. So glad we get to support the lifestyles of the sickeningly rich. Everyone else has given you a har...
[23:07:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wholesale IP Transit Costs - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:53] <exec> 08└─Mod this broheimer up, he knowz. He probably has epic gainz too
[23:07:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Retarded - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:58] <exec> 08└─You, on the other hand, are the guy who won't stop pissing in the wind with his mouth open because somebody once told him that's what you are supposed to do.
[23:08:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pay for Usage - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:03] <exec> 08└─All the weed growers want to know where you live :P Seriously, what power company doesn't meter? I'm metered for everything! Except sewage, but I think that's rolled into the water bill, not sure.
[23:08:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pay for Usage - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:05] <exec> 08└─> Seriously, what power company doesn't meter? Seriously, what post did you read?
[23:08:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03gmrath [4181] (Score:1) 02Re:Pay for Usage - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 596 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:07] <exec> 08└─The story goes that Thomas Edison made sure he invented (or at least perfected) the electric power meter before his company electrified anything beyond what was needed for testing and proof of concept so customers could be billed as he wanted not one electron to escape the billing process, he being...
[23:08:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Pay for Usage - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:10] <exec> 08└─Microsoft is made every W10 machine a P2P hub for updates just over a month ago... Lawyers are probably very busy crafting their class-action lawsuits.
[23:08:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pay for Usage - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:12] <exec> 08└─Right because Windows is the only thing that ever autoupdates, Linux distros never check for updates, major browsers never download new versions of themselves, ...
[23:08:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Pay for Usage - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:14] <exec> 08└─Kindly remind me the Window market share and Wupdate size?
[23:08:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Cox Cable - 06Netflix Asks FCC to Declare Data Caps "Unreasonable" - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:08:16] <exec> 08└─Went over the data cap only because Windows 10 fucked the hard drive with my Steam game library. I had to download it again, It went over about 40Gb that month. No extra cost or warning from Cox. I also have an OnStar trial on a new car I bought, 2 months later I get warnings that I have less than 2...
[23:09:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02History Will Justify Them - 06HP to Buy Samsung's Printer Business for $1.05 Billion - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:19] <exec> 08└─After all, this is the company that did so great when it decided what they really needed to do was buy Compaq. Right? It's just the new HP Way.
[23:09:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Why underplay the explosion? - 06A Loud Sound Just Shut Down a Bank's Data Center for 10 Hours - 448 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:57] <exec> 08└─This article comes across as somewhat clickbait. It describes it as a "loud sound," but the description could very well be a small explosion: 130 decibels is physically painful, and as loud as a thunderclap It's only 1/4 as loud as needed to rupture eardrums. But I guess calling it a "loud sound" is...
[23:10:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02you haven't looked very far - 06Android is a Dead End - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:26] <exec> 08└─> I mean, have you looked at what's available [...] These are your choices Well I mean... Apple sells its phone for $1000. You might as well consider the 'secure' options in that price range. Blackphone is open sourced. There are other options. Maemo can still be installed on some HW but support and...
[23:12:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Accidental microwaving - 06This Employee ID Badge Monitors and Listens to You at Work - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:12:21] <exec> 08└─I've heard they're great under a burrito in the microwave.
[23:13:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''the uprising of the proletariat'' - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 968 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:06] <exec> 08└─There are still a few remaining pockets of collectivized farmers in "Red" China, so, yeah, there was some lip service paid to The Proletariat. The thing is that the central gov't can overrule any decisions made at the local level. This is the TOP-DOWN thing again. ...and to get a "voice"[1] in natio...
[23:13:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Describing the political palate - 06Basic Income Experiment Runs Into Skepticism From Potential Participants - 1230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:07] <exec> 08└─you seem to be supporting my 2-axis proposition Yup. Trying to describe the human condition with only 1 dimension is a bad idea. Communist economy (e.g. DPRK) [...] the way communist nations have attempted their implementation Ah. I see your problem. You think that State Capitalism [wikipedia.org] i...
[23:15:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Morons - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:15:01] <exec> 08└─Wait. Are you saying France created radioactive mutant terrorists?
[23:15:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Muslim Women More Educated Than Christians - 06Criminal Terrorist Investigation Opened After Gas Canisters Found in Paris - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:15:13] <exec> 08└─In america, muslim women as a group are 2nd only to jewish women for educational attainment. [thenation.com]
[23:19:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:What could possible go wrong? - 06Alphabet/Google-Chipotle-Virginia Tech Burrito Delivery by Drone - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:19:08] <exec> 08└─What could possibly go wrong? Let's try a starter : 1) The devices will hover overhead and lower the Chipotle edibles with a winch Drunk college student hauls drone out of the sky with the cord. 2) ...
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