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[00:01:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02I'll repeat myself ... - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:01:56] <exec> 08└─> in close quarters in a dome, without fresh air, fresh food or privacy But there was a door. You cannot truly simulate a mission to Mars if there is an available quick escape. Put them at the bottom of a mine shaft, collapse it and tell them it should take 18 months to get back to them. Everything...
[00:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:I'll repeat myself ... - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:01:58] <exec> 08└─You cannot truly simulate a mission to Mars if there is an available quick escape. [...] Everything short of "you're trapped, period" avoids the biggest psych issue.
[00:01:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Real mission will Fail - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:02:00] <exec> 08└─Simulation did not account for sandkings.
[00:02:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03archfeld [4650] (Score:2) 02What about - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:02:02] <exec> 08└─What about radiation exposure. Other than that I really do believe we have the tech, and it can support us there and maybe even back, provided everything goes well. What I am most concerned about is the exposure to radiation over the course of the long, long journey there, and what it will do and me...
[00:02:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Re:I don't like the guy... - 06New Zealand Judge to Allow Kim Dotcom to Livestream Extradition Appeal - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:02:12] <exec> 08└─I don't like the guy either, he's a total weirdo, and a pretty obvious narcissist, but I'm also pretty mad at how the NZ Police (which I pay for through my taxes) have been perfectly happy to be stooges for the CIA or whichever of the US agencies is running this whole thing. I'm also mad at the tota...
[00:02:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My conditions for investigation - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:02:32] <exec> 08└─Hmm, only 10% furry in the JJverse according to this reference [knowyourmeme.com] (can't find the original). Should have stuck with 50% furry in TAS.
[00:02:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My conditions for investigation - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:02:35] <exec> 08└─I want to see a blue one and a green one get it on. Drake equation, help me with this.
[00:02:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Really? - 06Apple is Sued Over iPhone 6 "Touch Disease" - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:02:56] <exec> 08└─How many people do actually have a 6 still under warranty? The thing was designed two years ago and replaced last year. If it didn't die during the warranty, you don't have ground to complain or sue.
[00:02:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:stop touching it - 06Apple is Sued Over iPhone 6 "Touch Disease" - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:02:59] <exec> 08└─Indeed, you're supposed to stick it up your ass the way that Steve intended.
[00:03:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:stop it - 06Fracking Chemicals Alter Hormone Levels in Mice - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:03:43] <exec> 08└─khallow's precautionary precautionary principle: It's not safe to assume it 's not safe until it is proven to be safe. Therefore, it is safe. Yeah, that's logic! Except we haven't accounted for precautionary logic.
[00:03:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Strange paper - 06Fracking Chemicals Alter Hormone Levels in Mice - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:03:51] <exec> 08└─Not really, how much would it have gone down if the cost of gas and natural gas hadn't been depressed by the fracking? Or how about a comparison against the situation if the oil companies weren't continually sabotaging efforts at getting off our oil addiction? 2% is a pretty tiny amount for it to dr...
[00:04:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fnord666 [652] (Score:2) 02Re:There was a certain elegance to DOS programming - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:04:19] <exec> 08└─Assuming you wanted more than what ANSI.SYS could provide, you would have to directly poke that memory to make the magic happen. Sound and other similar stuff would require accessing the proper TSRs and making that magic happen. I don't miss DOS per say, but I do miss the flexibility it provided in...
[00:04:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not positive it is there... - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:04:29] <exec> 08└─But NCommander, have you looked at bitsavers.org? Look in the file listing file about a page down. (Recent.txt) It has a treasure trove of documentation in t going from Pentium Pro era back to Univac (1940s!!!!) They are adding stuff on a weekly if not daily basis and could use all the help they can...
[00:04:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Post-Nihilist [5672] (Score:2) 02Re:I can guess the next part - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
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[00:05:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03goody [2135] 02Re:Bama's Extra Big-Ass Legacy - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 281 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:05:06] <exec> 08└─That's fine with me (a park in every other square mile). The next Republican President that comes along will promise to log, sell, bulldoze, burn down, or pave over whatever the previous Democratic President preserved, just to piss off "libtards" and claim they're doing something.
[00:05:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bama's Extra Big-Ass Legacy - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 744 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:05:10] <exec> 08└─1) started 2 wars and couldn't finish them. Apparently we're 16 years into Bush's term, because we currently have troops in more countries than in 2008 2) Squandered away all national wealth then bankrupted the country. The National Debt doubled in the last 8 years. You can blame some of it on the l...
[00:05:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:fire - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:05:21] <exec> 08└─Yup. Loggers have been maintaining forests since the Devonian period.
[00:05:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:free music is free - 06Amazon Said to Plan Music-Streaming Service for its Echo Speaker - 360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:05:53] <exec> 08└─My friend has two. The only use of that lame paper towel tube is turning his lights on and sometimes weather in the morning. When I saw the box it came in I was almost in disbelief Something like: Alexa is always on and always listening. I asked him is he was cool with the possibility of spying and...
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[01:01:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:I'll repeat myself ... - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:01:53] <exec> 08└─Only suicide? What about everyone else, you selfish twit? Murder-suicide is the solution to all problems.
[01:01:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:What about - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 675 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:01:57] <exec> 08└─The other big question: gravity. It would be more or less fine for the length of the NASA mission (assuming NASA is really getting their people back out of that gravity well) but SpaceX is talking about leaving people on Mars. I'm really looking forward to Musk's colonization speech later this year,...
[01:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What about - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:01:59] <exec> 08└─Martian women must be impregnated by potent Musky sperm. Regular sperm has no chance to survive. It's going to be a Musk colony, literally.
[01:02:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02they're going to get T3h C4nc3r - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:02:01] <exec> 08└─The earth's magnetic field protects us from the worst of the Sun's radiation. In deep space, they'll fry unless the capsule is quite heavily shielded. I've been puzzling over how it could work to put the capsule inside a magnetic bottle. Someone reported here at Soylent that the apollo astronauts co...
[01:02:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:they're going to get T3h C4nc3r - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:02:03] <exec> 08└─Not so much glowing, as light flashes whenever a particle of radiation hits the retina: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[01:02:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:I don't like the guy... - 06New Zealand Judge to Allow Kim Dotcom to Livestream Extradition Appeal - 568 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:02:14] <exec> 08└─I'm with you. Yeah, I'm an American, but it really bothers me that our government can run roughshod over other nation's sovereign rights. Worse, is the fact that our government acts in the interest of corporations. These issues are of little interest, and have no affect on the people, who the govern...
[01:02:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Can someone record it for me? - 06New Zealand Judge to Allow Kim Dotcom to Livestream Extradition Appeal - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:02:16] <exec> 08└─Since the judge said it had to be taken down after it'd been Live streamed, I'm not going to get the chance to see it.
[01:02:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score:2) 02Re:Can someone record it for me? - 06New Zealand Judge to Allow Kim Dotcom to Livestream Extradition Appeal - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:02:18] <exec> 08└─I'm sure someone will save the stream and post it on some file sharing service just to thumb their nose at the whole thing. :)
[01:02:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:2) 02Latest from SETI - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 543 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:02:49] <exec> 08└─The Breakthrough Listen team has posted their archival search [berkeley.edu] at SETI for emission from HD 164595 and the initial analysis of their recent observations. [...]suggests that the RATAN transient is likely due to instrumental interference or to some other artifact of human technology. Whi...
[01:03:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02My Magsafe Power Adapter was smoking - 06Apple is Sued Over iPhone 6 "Touch Disease" - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:03:08] <exec> 08└─while it didn't actually catch fire it burned through all the insulation. Had the cord been touching paper it would have caught fire. I filed a bug report advising apple to recall and redesign the adapters. Their response? They gave me the link to apple's official policy on unsolicited advice. For r...
[01:05:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The best idea [you Yanks] ever had - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:05:48] <exec> 08└─here [theguardian.com]
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[02:02:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:What about - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 979 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:01] <exec> 08└─Here's a link. [stackexchange.com] Basically, we don't really know about Martian gravity in particular, but we do know that microgravity generally does have significant effects on fetal development based on experiments on mice and rats in microgravity. There was some research done on embryonic deve...
[02:02:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03snufu [5855] (Score:2) 02They forgot the most important obstacle. - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:02:04] <exec> 08└─Providing a scientific justification for sending meat to Mars when robots can do it better at a fraction of the cost.
[02:02:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:They forgot the most important obstacle. - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 450 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:06] <exec> 08└─It's fundamentally not about science, it's about expansion. The machines cannot replicate themselves yet; we are their sexual organs. If you want civilization to spread to the stars, that currently requires meat. I suspect that we'll shrug off these mortal coils one way or another before we make ser...
[02:02:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:They forgot the most important obstacle. - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:09] <exec> 08└─The most important question is: will the Mars colonists pay their Earth taxes? If no, they will not be allowed to go.
[02:02:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02pfffft - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:02:11] <exec> 08└─If they had run the simulation on a Beowulf Cluster, it would only take 3 weeks instead of a year.
[02:02:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:I smell hype - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:36] <exec> 08└─The entire purpose of science is to attract attention to scientists
[02:02:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02SETI ran out of money and public interest - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 5 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:02:56] <exec> 08└─So...
[02:02:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Observer.com - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:58] <exec> 08└─One of them click-bait sites with crap "contents".
[02:03:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Really? - 06Apple is Sued Over iPhone 6 "Touch Disease" - 540 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:03:14] <exec> 08└─So, I would assume that you don't consider the Y2K or related bugs to be actual bugs because people used them just fine for years before the bug became apparent? What about your surgeon leaves an instrument inside, but it doesn't jiggle loose for a few years? How about a fan with giant finger-sized...
[02:03:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Going to Get Worse - 06Apple is Sued Over iPhone 6 "Touch Disease" - 820 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:03:18] <exec> 08└─Not really. The 2010 MacBook Air (last major redesign) had a problem where the palmrest would bend if you rested your wrists on it. Eventually the trackpad would stop working due to this defect (easiest way to determine when purchasing second hand was to close the lid and look to see if there was a...
[02:04:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:stop it - 06Fracking Chemicals Alter Hormone Levels in Mice - 471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:04:05] <exec> 08└─Look, we're apparently speaking about something you have experience with and yet you're still all dumbshit. The remarkable thing about your argument is that you still have no backing for the claim that fracking is so dangerous it must be stopped. You're right. The people living on the lands leased A...
[02:04:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:stop it - 06Fracking Chemicals Alter Hormone Levels in Mice - 794 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:04:06] <exec> 08└─As an aside, I can window the transition in your beliefs to between February 2012 [slashdot.org] and May 2012 [slashdot.org]. That EdIII of 2012 made sense. What happened? Why can't you reason or talk like that here? I think the whole argument is pointless. You're basically saying that human socie...
[02:06:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kilo110 [2853] (Score:2) 02Re:free music is free - 06Amazon Said to Plan Music-Streaming Service for its Echo Speaker - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:06:14] <exec> 08└─I've two. More or less same uses as your friend. And yeah. I wish I was interesting enough to spy on.
[02:07:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:Still seems high - 06Solar Price Continues to Fall to New Lows - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:51] <exec> 08└─BTW I'm not claiming exactly $25K of solar panels is exactly equal to $25K of one specific local electric power company, but "its dang close" within 25% or so.
[02:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:They may be successful.... - 06China Launches Own Aircraft Engine-Maker to Rival the West - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:05] <exec> 08└─It doesn't take as much jet fuel for China to shoot a missile, as is does for the US to send the target 1/2 way round the world to get shot down. Same for boats, don't even bother thinking about people.
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[03:01:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Diagnosing Delayed/Advanced Sleep Syndrome - 06Edible Batteries Offer Power Without Toxic Metals - 464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:01:56] <exec> 08└─If you prefer to work at night rather than have to work at night, you may have Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome. By contrast my father had the Advanced kind, as he got out of bed at 5:00 until he was too old and sick to get out of bed anymore. The best way to diagnose these is to swallow a thermometer t...
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[03:02:17] <exec> 08└─Beowulf Clusters are sooo 2002
[03:02:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03RandomFactor [3682] (Score:1) 02Re:OMG Earth is doomed - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:58] <exec> 08└─A wall around the Earth to keep out aliens.... a Donald-san sphere?
[03:03:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02New definition for 'You're holding it wrong'... - 06Apple is Sued Over iPhone 6 "Touch Disease" - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:03:25] <exec> 08└─Now I get it! For years I've wondered about all the hoopla with Apple's 'rounded corners'. I've never had any interest in Apple's crap, so I guess I (and my anus) was blissfully ignorant of this trend. This explains a lot of quirks I've noticed...
[03:03:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03wcvanhorne [2197] (Score:1) 02Echoing surprise!!! - 06TrendForce: 56% of PCs Sold Will Come With SSDs by 2018 - 520 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:03:57] <exec> 08└─I can't believe *any* systems are still being sold with HDDs as OS/System drives! I replaced all my HDDs with SSDs over 3 years ago (10 PCs and laptops in my family) and that was probably the single biggest performance boost you can imagine! I bought all Corsair Neutron GTX 240GB SSDs and they were...
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[04:02:03] <exec> 08└─Keep your government-mandated implants out of my stomach! Oh sure you say they're not mandated, but if you try to decline medical treatment, they declare you insane, and force you to swallow the radio tracking device anyway. The US Department of Labor is going to make sure you get the proper job pla...
[04:02:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02the future of implants - 06Edible Batteries Offer Power Without Toxic Metals - 517 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:02:04] <exec> 08└─if the future of implantable technology wants to actually thrive it will need to be adapted to work with the human body. currently, we are taking computers, scaling them down and shoving them in people. what we should be doing is moving toward chemically driven cellular systems that contain all the...
[04:02:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I don't like the guy... - 06New Zealand Judge to Allow Kim Dotcom to Livestream Extradition Appeal - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:02:37] <exec> 08└─I think the fact that they are having these hearings shows that their sovereign rights are not being run roughshod over.
[04:02:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I don't like the guy... - 06New Zealand Judge to Allow Kim Dotcom to Livestream Extradition Appeal - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:02:38] <exec> 08└─"I don't like the guy" I do. We need more narcissists. This qualification of yours tramples on his accomplishments (if it is possible to trample fat boy).
[04:02:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02question is.. - 06New Zealand Judge to Allow Kim Dotcom to Livestream Extradition Appeal - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:02:42] <exec> 08└─Who cares?
[04:03:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Re:OMG Earth is doomed - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:03:11] <exec> 08└─and he'll make the aliens pay for that wall.... Clinton will want to offshore all ye stuff to a cheap off planet rock manned by cheap alien labor or automatons.
[04:03:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sir Finkus [192] (Score:2) 02Re:My Magsafe Power Adapter was smoking - 06Apple is Sued Over iPhone 6 "Touch Disease" - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:03:42] <exec> 08└─Those magsafe power adapters are garbage. I've never owned a cord that has more fragile insulation.
[04:06:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:fire - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:05] <exec> 08└─They said "no logging" not "logging so lots of flammable slash is left waiting to burn"
[04:06:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:Logging is all there is - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 969 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:14] <exec> 08└─Used to be like that around here, minus the snowmobiles. Mills up and down the rivers, most everyone working in the bush or at a mill. Then they cut down most all the good timber, dismantled the mills and shipped them to China, became more mechanized and now there's one guy running the faller bunche...
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[04:10:22] <exec> 08└─Perhaps it's time to choose a side. Are Chinese all beholden to the party and all the Chinese living overseas a party plot to control the world. In which case Chinese all support the party and it cant be all bad. Or the Chinese are leaving the party to start a better life some place else. You can't...
[04:10:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Short-term thinking, MBA’s in action... - 06China Launches Own Aircraft Engine-Maker to Rival the West - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:10:29] <exec> 08└─The other alternative would be to spend some of that exec bonus money on cybersecurity, so the Chinese don't just download the plans for the engines of GE's servers.
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[05:02:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:4K cat porn - 06Intel Announces Kaby Lake Mobile Processors - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:02:03] <exec> 08└─At this resolution you can really see the fur!
[05:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Real mission will Fail - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:02:23] <exec> 08└─For those wondering what sandkings is, I have googled it for you, a George R R Martin novel from 1979 https://en.m.wikipedia.org(novelette) [wikipedia.org]
[05:04:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:stop it - 06Fracking Chemicals Alter Hormone Levels in Mice - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:04:37] <exec> 08└─As an aside, I can window the transition in your beliefs to between February 2012 and May 2012. That EdIII of 2012 made sense. What happened? Why can't you reason or talk like that here?
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[06:01:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02But the Trees will Suffocate!! - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:01:51] <exec> 08└─You fools! Don't you know the Trees need to inhale Carbon Dioxide to live!!!
[06:02:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Process refinement, like AMD - 06Intel Announces Kaby Lake Mobile Processors - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:02:01] <exec> 08└─This is like what AMD did on the 28 and 32nm nodes, basically; Intel has gotten very, very good at 14nm and is squeezing out more performance than earlier spins (Broadwell, Skylake) would have lead us to believe. It's like AMD's refinement of Kaveri-->Godaveri-->Carizzo.
[06:02:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:Process refinement, like AMD - 06Intel Announces Kaby Lake Mobile Processors - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:02:03] <exec> 08└─What I find interesting is that they are moving to a larger feature size. But they don't want to call it 15nm (because they have been telling us smaller is better). So they call it 14nm+
[06:02:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Coincidence? - 06Intel Announces Kaby Lake Mobile Processors - 382 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:02:05] <exec> 08└─>Intel says is good for another few hundred MHz for performance. That seems to happen every time. "Oh hey, guys. Intel here. We made an amazing scientific breakthrough! As a result, our processors are theoretically slightly faster under specific ideal conditions. So we added 10 to the name of each p...
[06:02:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score:2) 02Re:Diagnosing Delayed/Advanced Sleep Syndrome - 06Edible Batteries Offer Power Without Toxic Metals - 756 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:02:16] <exec> 08└─Fascinating. I have been a night owl all of my life. Sunup, eyes close, sundown and I'm wide awake. Struggled all through school with this and have worked swing and graveyard most of my life because of it. Makes social life a bit more difficult, but in general it always made me a little more money a...
[06:02:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimios [201] (Score:2) 02Ingestible/Edible? - 06Edible Batteries Offer Power Without Toxic Metals - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:02:19] <exec> 08└─Anything is edible. At least once.
[06:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score:2) 02Tastes like.... - 06Edible Batteries Offer Power Without Toxic Metals - 8 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:02:21] <exec> 08└─Chicken?
[06:02:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:They forgot the most important obstacle. - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:02:42] <exec> 08└─You shouldn't lead with your reproductive organs.
[06:02:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:They forgot the most important obstacle. - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:02:44] <exec> 08└─This is why you never get asked to the soylent dances, mhajicek.
[06:02:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03rob_on_earth [5485] (Score:2) 02At least they missed the film - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 373 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:02:48] <exec> 08└─As long as the missed the film "The Martian" and did read the book. Book rates as one of my top 10 reads ever the film as one of the worst ever produced. So well paced with just the right amount of detail to keep geeks/nerds interested. The film on the other hand took a few choice quotes, the charac...
[06:05:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:A better C - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:05:41] <exec> 08└─Getting LANMAN to work on XP wasn't too hard. Getting it to work on Win7 was very hard and getting it to work on Win 10 is next to impossible. The problem is the authentication is just too insecure. Even OS/2 ships with a Samba server/client now so it communicate with Windows.
[06:05:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:Get off my lawn! - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:05:50] <exec> 08└─I think that the AT (286) could actually address a GB of virtual memory in protected mode. 32 bit OS/2 limited itself to a GB of address space (512MBs user) so the 16 bit API could address all memory.
[06:07:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:free music is free - 06Amazon Said to Plan Music-Streaming Service for its Echo Speaker - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:07:03] <exec> 08└─The problem is that they now spy on everybody, and only decide if you are interesting at some point in the future.
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[07:02:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:But the Trees will Suffocate!! - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:06] <exec> 08└─Yes, but have you ever tried to survive in a pure oxygen atmosphere? Did not your lungs burn? Are you not too stupid to survive, after all. And evidently not from California.
[07:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:But the Trees will Suffocate!! - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 978 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:07] <exec> 08└─Recently, temperatures have been higher than usual and rainfall less than usual in the state. Those conditions are thought to have killed millions of trees either directly or by making them susceptible to bark beetles. The governor wants "dead, dying and diseased trees" to be cut down and burned in...
[07:02:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:2, Informative) 02Only state bureaucrats are happy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:02:09] <exec> 08└─Penalties for people who buy gasoline-powered vehicles
[07:02:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Only state bureaucrats are happy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:11] <exec> 08└─The flight from CA is ongoing. Businesses and people alike move out as soon as they can.
[07:02:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:Only state bureaucrats are happy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:14] <exec> 08└─Good! It's over-crowded and the traffic sucks.
[07:02:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02anti-idling - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:02:16] <exec> 08└─Semi-relevant: Hot Trucks and Anti-Idling Laws [youtube.com] Not sure how California is going to get all of it's goods.
[07:02:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Coincidence? - 06Intel Announces Kaby Lake Mobile Processors - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:27] <exec> 08└─#DicksOutForZen
[07:02:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score:2) 02Re:Coincidence? - 06Intel Announces Kaby Lake Mobile Processors - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:29] <exec> 08└─"Oh hey, guys. Intel here. We made an amazing scientific breakthrough! As a result, our processors are theoretically slightly faster under specific ideal conditions. So we added 10 to the name of each processor family, starting charging more, and put the old ones on clearance. Again!" And this is th...
[07:02:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Soylent Brown - 06Edible Batteries Offer Power Without Toxic Metals - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:02:42] <exec> 08└─It's a battery! Soylent Brown is a battery.
[07:03:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:pfffft - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:07] <exec> 08└─Goatse for you
[07:03:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:At least they missed the film - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:10] <exec> 08└─The film on the other hand took a few choice quotes, the character names and butchered it from the opening scene to the eye gouging end.
[07:03:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Re:At least they missed the film - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 469 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:12] <exec> 08└─I thought the film "The Martian" was quite good. Any time you take a book and turn it into a movie, you have a choice: make a 10-hour movie, or chop out most of the detail. Knowing that in advance, you have to go into the movie with the expectation that you are seeing just the surface of the book. I...
[07:03:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:I don't like the guy... - 06New Zealand Judge to Allow Kim Dotcom to Livestream Extradition Appeal - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:24] <exec> 08└─I think the fact that they are having these hearings shows that their sovereign rights are not being run roughshod over.
[07:04:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Latest from SETI - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:04:04] <exec> 08└─Reflection of a radar-gun or supermarket door opener sensor?
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[08:01:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02HOW EXPLOSIVE - 06LiH Mediates Low-Temperature Ammonia Synthesis - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:01:57] <exec> 08└─COULD IT BE USED FOR TERRORISM DEATH TO WEST PRAISE ALLAH
[08:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02the Harbor-Bosch process??? - 06LiH Mediates Low-Temperature Ammonia Synthesis - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:01:58] <exec> 08└─It's Haber-Bosch. I guess this is like reading a menu at a Chinese restaurant...
[08:02:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the Harbor-Bosch process??? - 06LiH Mediates Low-Temperature Ammonia Synthesis - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:02:00] <exec> 08└─like reading a menu at a Chinese restaurant...
[08:02:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:Only state bureaucrats are happy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:02:14] <exec> 08└─Penalties for people who buy gasoline-powered vehicles
[08:02:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:Only state bureaucrats are happy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:02:15] <exec> 08└─Perhaps someone should make sure first that EVs exist that have the same cost and the same range as the gas cars?
[08:02:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:Only state bureaucrats are happy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:02:17] <exec> 08└─those are exactly the people who should be punished!
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[09:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02hydrogen - 06LiH Mediates Low-Temperature Ammonia Synthesis - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:01:58] <exec> 08└─The hydrogen used in the process is typically made from methane via steam reforming. That is done at a high temperature too. That step, and the fact that methane is consumed, account for a significant part of the "energy use."
[09:02:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Only state bureaucrats are happy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:02:13] <exec> 08└─You make a good point. However, the bill doesn't specify that, or the other measures quoted by the original poster, specifically. The Mercury-News says those are "among the possibilities, experts say." If made law, SB-32 would leave it up to the California Air Resources Board to decide exactly how t...
[09:02:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Only state bureaucrats are happy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:02:16] <exec> 08└─At this very minute I have nowhere to charge an EV if I had one.
[09:04:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02So much potential! - 06A Novel Method of Making High-Quality Vertical Nanowires - 485 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:04:35] <exec> 08└─These nanowires. Has any of it actually been realised yet? CNTs have been around for over 60 years now, https://en.wikipedia.org that's surely long enough for some real world problem to be solved? I'm sorry, but blending them into the composites making up the frame...
[09:07:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score:2) 02Re:Logging is all there is - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 716 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:07:00] <exec> 08└─It is important to dissect all arguments to unmask propaganda. However, I cannot follow your arguments. Historically, going back 10.000 yrs, it was exactly like this: "we'd just kill each other". Given, it were local tribes killing each other, within the tribes there was a hierarchy controlling the...
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[10:01:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Where is Musky in this story? - 06Two New Kuiper Belt Objects Boost the Case for "Planet Nine" - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:01:46] <exec> 08└─It's not real space news without Musky.
[10:02:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Only state bureaucrats are happy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 1725 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:02:10] <exec> 08└─I have noted the freeways start getting busy at 6AM these days... Helluva long workday, with way too many hours spent in commute. I thought the gas crisis of a few years ago was gonna make businesses invest in their own communities - help the locals with schooling their kids, in exchange for a well...
[10:02:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Only state bureaucrats are happy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:02:12] <exec> 08└─Don't forget the roads.
[10:02:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Only state bureaucrats are happy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:02:19] <exec> 08└─This is just the Invisible Hand doing its job, surely? Fossil fuels have been too cheap The Market is correcting itself. The Tea Party will be pleased.
[10:02:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Medical industry? Pah! - 06Edible Batteries Offer Power Without Toxic Metals - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:02:46] <exec> 08└─Why waste this technology on the medical industry, when far greater profits can be made from other applications? A year from now, I expect every spoonful of my daughter's breakfast cereal to sing a snippet of a song from Frozen at her. My son's cereal will squirm and scream in terror as he devours i...
[10:04:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Really? - 06Apple is Sued Over iPhone 6 "Touch Disease" - 483 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:04:25] <exec> 08└─Minimum legal warranty towards customers is 2 years in most of Europe (1 year for B2B); next to that there are laws for obvious defects and factory defects that don't even need warranty. e.g. maybe your car comes with only 2 years warranty; but everyone expects it to last longer than that. So if the...
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[10:05:20] <exec> 08└─But you mustn't get in the way of his god-given right to make as much money as possible at everyone else's expense.
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[11:02:19] <exec> 08└─is there an estimated efficiency for this process?
[11:02:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Only state bureaucrats are happy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:02:38] <exec> 08└─I very much doubt Gravis understands that. He's in his ideological zone where reality is taxed to death.
[11:02:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Only state bureaucrats are happy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 3991 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:02:40] <exec> 08└─Excellent points. My question is mostly why we are considering a vehicle driver ( which must, by definition, have a highly portable energy source ) to be a heavy recipient of cutbacks, when the goal is overall CO2 emission lowering? My take is that encouraging solar for static installations is the...
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[11:02:43] <exec> 08└─We are rapidly becoming a nation of apartment dwellers. Their options are severely limited by not owning any square feet of area to erect a panel. Also, at today's conversion efficiencies, it takes a home rooftop fully populated to provide a charge rate consistent with a timely charge for an EV pac...
[11:06:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:There was a certain elegance to DOS programming - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:06:24] <exec> 08└─But some of the DOS memory models had different sizes for code and data pointers. So in casting between the two you might lose the segment part.
[11:06:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:There was a certain elegance to DOS programming - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:06:25] <exec> 08└─Doctor, it hurts when I do >this<. Well, don't do that then. CS = DS ("tiny") is not required for the lack of pain, "small" model works fine.
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[12:02:07] <exec> 08└─...perhaps Planet X will turn out to be Dwarf Planet Nine.
[12:02:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:hydrogen - 06LiH Mediates Low-Temperature Ammonia Synthesis - 597 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:02:19] <exec> 08└─A bit better than 50%, as i interpret this text I found: The chemical and petrochemical sector is the largest industrial energy consumer. Ammonia production is responsible for about 17% of the energy consumed in this sector. In 2004, the ammonia manufacturing industry consumed 5.6 EJ of fossil fuel...
[12:03:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Real mission will Fail - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:03:24] <exec> 08└─Also adapted as an episode of The Outer Limits: http://www.imdb.com [imdb.com]
[12:03:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:pfffft - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:03:40] <exec> 08└─you're a big guy
[12:04:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I smell hype - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:04:17] <exec> 08└─It just seems like such an utterly improbable coincidence that an alien civilization would decide one day (only) 95 years ago to start sending a signal our way.
[12:05:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03edIII [791] 02Re:stop it - 06Fracking Chemicals Alter Hormone Levels in Mice - 978 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:05:47] <exec> 08└─As somebody that has actually been on fracs before, you're completely and utterly full of shit you odious little apologist troll. 1) It's for oil AND natural gas. 2) When done correctly, it's in a vertical well many thousands of feet below the water table. 3) It IS a very clever piece of engineering...
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[13:02:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Oakenshield [4900] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Only state bureaucrats are happy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:43] <exec> 08└─Economic fun fact... prices are set by the buyer, not the seller.
[13:04:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03sendafiolorkar [6300] (Score:1) 02For those who missed it - 06New Zealand Judge to Allow Kim Dotcom to Livestream Extradition Appeal - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:04:11] <exec> 08└─Extradition and judicial review hearing video: "Ortmann, Dotcom, van der Kolk & Batato v USA & NSDC. High Court, Auckland NZ Day 3 Afternoon 31/8/16 " https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[13:04:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Dunbal [3515] 02Re:I smell hype - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 67 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:04:25] <exec> 08└─The entire purpose of science is to attract attention to scientists
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[13:06:44] <exec> 08└─are there people on here who know what a command line compiler looks like?
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[14:02:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score:2) 02Yeah, they should stop fucking about - 06World Health Organization: Gonorrhea Becoming Untreatable - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:02:09] <exec> 08└─Both patients and pharma companies...
[14:02:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yeah, they should stop fucking about - 06World Health Organization: Gonorrhea Becoming Untreatable - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:11] <exec> 08└─> pharma companies... Yeah, but don't charge anything for the drugs once you develop them. /s
[14:02:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yeah, they should stop fucking about - 06World Health Organization: Gonorrhea Becoming Untreatable - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:13] <exec> 08└─That's communist talk!
[14:02:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02treat the symptoms? - 06World Health Organization: Gonorrhea Becoming Untreatable - 360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:02:15] <exec> 08└─Maybe much like an AIDS cure would kill the pharma industry, they're better off financially trying to treat the symptoms and slow the rate of death than to cure. So I suspect the PR handwringing is just handwringing. So what pills are in the pipeline to treat the symptoms while not curing the infect...
[14:02:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:treat the symptoms? - 06World Health Organization: Gonorrhea Becoming Untreatable - 756 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:17] <exec> 08└─The issue here is that ranchers, doctors and patients have been fucking this up. The pharmaceutical companies have run out of most easily obtained antibiotics and are having to go to greater and greater lengths to get new antibiotics. Ultimately the solution is to stop screwing around and switch to...
[14:02:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:treat the symptoms? - 06World Health Organization: Gonorrhea Becoming Untreatable - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:19] <exec> 08└─Ultimately the solution is to stop screwing around and switch to phages,
[14:02:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:treat the symptoms? - 06World Health Organization: Gonorrhea Becoming Untreatable - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:21] <exec> 08└─sir, your tinfoil hat does not mean regulation standards.
[14:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02Re:treat the symptoms? - 06World Health Organization: Gonorrhea Becoming Untreatable - 1485 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:24] <exec> 08└─"an AIDS cure would kill the pharma industry" Nonsense. None of the drugs for it are even in the top ten in terms of profits for them. There just aren't enough AIDS patient in wealthy countries for it to be. If you want profits go for cholesterol meds (Lipitor for example), or gastro-esophageal refl...
[14:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:treat the symptoms? - 06World Health Organization: Gonorrhea Becoming Untreatable - 776 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:26] <exec> 08└─I think much of the problem with antibiotic resistance is the fact that doctors, at least here in the U.S., way way way under prescribe dosages. In other countries the dosages are much higher. The reason is that the FDA puts a very strict limit on dosages for various situations. The problem with thi...
[14:02:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03sendafiolorkar [6300] (Score:1) 02Nope, still there. - 06World Health Organization: Gonorrhea Becoming Untreatable - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:02:28] <exec> 08└─I guess it's not Gonerrhea anymore.
[14:02:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimtheowl [5929] (Score:1) 02Re:With 10 or 20 objects in its orbit... - 06Two New Kuiper Belt Objects Boost the Case for "Planet Nine" - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:42] <exec> 08└─"a hypothetical world larger than Earth that scientists are calling Planet Nine, or Planet X" So, by definition, no. In summary: ".. the gravitational influence of a roughly 10-Earth-mass planet about 600 AU from the sun could indeed explain the odd "clustering" in the orbits of Sedna, 2012 VP113 an...
[14:02:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:With 10 or 20 objects in its orbit... - 06Two New Kuiper Belt Objects Boost the Case for "Planet Nine" - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:43] <exec> 08└─By definition, if it hasn't "cleared the neighborhood" of other objects, it's a dwarf planet--no matter how massive it is.
[14:02:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:With 10 or 20 objects in its orbit... - 06Two New Kuiper Belt Objects Boost the Case for "Planet Nine" - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:45] <exec> 08└─It looked to me like the proposed orbit was clear. These Kuiper belt objects do not share the same orbit as Nemesis or whatever we'll call it (if it's out there). This diagram [wikipedia.org] is more clear than the one in TFA.
[14:02:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02max orbital distance? - 06Two New Kuiper Belt Objects Boost the Case for "Planet Nine" - 657 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:02:47] <exec> 08└─4000 AU, huh? How far away can a planet be and have good odds of remaining in orbit for the life of its star, and not be flung out by a close encounter with a passing system? Checking, I learned there is no limit to the distance an object can orbit another. I suppose that's basic astronomy. Escape v...
[14:03:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The Information Bubble - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 752 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:16] <exec> 08└─> Now, will government actually do anything about it, or will lobbyists win again? They will always win. The question is how much will they win. And that answer is directly correlated with campaign finance. I don't mean quid-pro-quo (as the simpleton Trump has alleged) but rather access. When politi...
[14:03:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Zoning Reform - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:18] <exec> 08└─the landlords are driving all lower-paid workers out of town. This will cause a correction, of course, but the correction will result in hundreds of businesses closing and tens of thousands people going broke.
[14:03:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Only state bureaucrats are happy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 466 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:27] <exec> 08└─What you're talking about exists and has been around for decades. It's called a ground source heat pump (GSHP). The principle is 6ft down the earth is a constant 55F. So you sink a loop carrying water + antifreeze into the ground and run it back into the house, where you blow air across a manifold t...
[14:03:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Only state bureaucrats are happy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:29] <exec> 08└─Or if you live by a lake/sea, you can put the pipe in there.
[14:03:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Only state bureaucrats are happy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:31] <exec> 08└─What will you do?
[14:03:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Only state bureaucrats are happy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:36] <exec> 08└─Lack of workers forces local businesses to look elsewhere.
[14:03:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Only state bureaucrats are happy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:39] <exec> 08└─But see, part of that is the California conceit. In plenty other places people live in things called apartments in highrise buildings, to supply the needed housing at a price they can afford. California could do that too but people all labor under the delusion that they're owed a ranch and open high...
[14:03:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02People Do Want to Live in Apartments. - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 443 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:41] <exec> 08└─No it is nothing like that. People clearly want to live in apartments. That's why rent for apartments in big cities is sky high. The delusion is that if you own a house you deserve to stop someone from building a multi-family unit next door because property values. As if your personal wealth gives y...
[14:03:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02China - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:03:44] <exec> 08└─Ok, so California is taking some responsibility by limiting the CO2 they put directly in the air. Great. But the last time I checked, China was also a major polluter, dumping CO2 and other stuff in to the the air everyone else has to live with, largely on behalf of all the crap we buy from them. So...
[14:03:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02open source drivers - 06Intel Announces Kaby Lake Mobile Processors - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:03:58] <exec> 08└─oh? it sayz needs a "os driver"? so this is a WIN(10)-chip? and won't work "correctly" w/ linux?
[14:05:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02murican scale - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 599 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:05:43] <exec> 08└─if an american would have invented the scale it would go something like this: I. mr. smith-scale: a button the size of a continent that can turn off the local sun (hydrogen fusion inhibitor). II. mr smith-scale: the button fits into a basement. III. mr smith scale: the basement button can turn off a...
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[15:02:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 0264-bit cyphers - 06Big Data Busts Crypto: 'Sweet32' Captures Collisions in Old Ciphers - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:13] <exec> 08└─You had me just until "64-bit cyphers"... why are we still using these ridiculously small amounts of bits?
[15:02:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:64-bit cyphers - 06Big Data Busts Crypto: 'Sweet32' Captures Collisions in Old Ciphers - 573 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:14] <exec> 08└─Complacency. People either don't know because the system it's in is a black box to them (either due to design or their own ignorance of them), or they take the "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" stand and because their users can still get it, it's obviously not broke so why take any risk in upgrading...
[15:02:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:64-bit cyphers - 06Big Data Busts Crypto: 'Sweet32' Captures Collisions in Old Ciphers - 322 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:16] <exec> 08└─Actually, the better question is why the key remains the same over such long times. I mean, it cannot be hard to re-negotiate a new session key every few gigabytes, can it? I mean, I'm forced to change my password in regular intervals, so the idea of regularly changing security tokens is not exactly...
[15:02:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:3, Informative) 02Block sizes - 06Big Data Busts Crypto: 'Sweet32' Captures Collisions in Old Ciphers - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:18] <exec> 08└─I think they're talking about block sizes here, rather than key sizes, because 3DES has a 112-bit key in the smallest keying option, and Blowfish can potentially use keys up to 448 bits. The summary ought to make that clear. It's been a very long time since a 64-bit key was considered secure.
[15:02:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Block sizes - 06Big Data Busts Crypto: 'Sweet32' Captures Collisions in Old Ciphers - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:20] <exec> 08└─It's been a very long time since a 64-bit key was considered secure.
[15:02:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02How Much Captured Traffic? - 06Big Data Busts Crypto: 'Sweet32' Captures Collisions in Old Ciphers - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:22] <exec> 08└─the authors write that 785 GB of captured traffic will, under the right conditions, yield up the encrypted HTTP cookie and let them decrypt Blowfish- or Triple-DES-encrypted traffic.
[15:02:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:treat the symptoms? - 06World Health Organization: Gonorrhea Becoming Untreatable - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:36] <exec> 08└─Phages will work for anything in perpetuity. When the bacteria evolve, the phages evolve. The problems are things like certain strains ecoli that are fatal in tiny concentrations. And that's not something that they need to do to survive. Each time they use phages they take a sample and use an approp...
[15:02:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:treat the symptoms? - 06World Health Organization: Gonorrhea Becoming Untreatable - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:37] <exec> 08└─Which is why they don't work so well for the conventional FDA approval process. They are like a different drug each time.
[15:02:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:treat the symptoms? - 06World Health Organization: Gonorrhea Becoming Untreatable - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:39] <exec> 08└─What ranchers have been doing to cows is disgusting. SMH
[15:02:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nope, still there. - 06World Health Organization: Gonorrhea Becoming Untreatable - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:45] <exec> 08└─I think the article is saying "if you vote for Hellary, the disease won't go away"
[15:02:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03sendafiolorkar [6300] (Score:1) 02Dying because of the "treatment". - 06World Health Organization: Gonorrhea Becoming Untreatable - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:47] <exec> 08└─Sometimes is better to stay with the disease you know than getting a far more danger and insidious one.
[15:02:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02There is a vaccine that works for mice - 06World Health Organization: Gonorrhea Becoming Untreatable - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:49] <exec> 08└─Damn those mice , Alzheimer's free, Parkinson's free, and now this. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov [nih.gov]
[15:03:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:max orbital distance? - 06Two New Kuiper Belt Objects Boost the Case for "Planet Nine" - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:03:08] <exec> 08└─That sort of leads into just how "vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big" space is. Proxima Centauri is 266,757 AU out (4.218 ly). I would assume the odds are astonishingly small that some rogue object or a star with a weird orbit would come close enough to affect Planet X.
[15:03:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Only state bureaucrats are happy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 2690 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:03:38] <exec> 08└─In my case it was buying stuff that I needed after I was thrown out of my parent's house (nearly literally, accused me of "drugs" and wanted to throw me in jail to teach me whatever f'ed up lesson they thought I needed, only one I learned was Austin 3:16 DTA Don't Trust Anybody). I'm not the only pe...
[15:03:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Structural Hypocrisy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 541 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:03:59] <exec> 08└─> So how about an additional tax or something on items produced by China? People within california are like-minded enough to get a law like that passed (as evidenced by this law getting passed). But congress is composed of people from all over the country, half of which don't even believe carbon pol...
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[15:04:15] <exec> 08└─Intel has been relatively good about developing Free software drivers [01.org]. Not sure how feature-complete they are. They are 3D and 2D accelerated though.
[15:04:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ingestible/Edible? - 06Edible Batteries Offer Power Without Toxic Metals - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:04:27] <exec> 08└─I challenge you to eat a house-sized rock.
[15:04:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Medical industry? Pah! - 06Edible Batteries Offer Power Without Toxic Metals - 843 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:04:32] <exec> 08└─Your examples are interesting. But there are far more important applications of this technology. This technology will be the savior of the RIAA. Implants, mandated at birth, will be able to constantly listen to detect if you are able to hear any copyrighted music, and then charge your credit card au...
[15:04:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Medical industry? Pah! - 06Edible Batteries Offer Power Without Toxic Metals - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:04:34] <exec> 08└─The RIAA strongly believes that those who own the copyrights to music should be paid something.
[15:04:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'll repeat myself ... - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:04:45] <exec> 08└─I'll link to my post on this too then: https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org] NASA seems to have stopped doing real innovation. Perhaps too many geniuses have left and all the Nazi scientists are gone. Now it seems to be mainly a bunch of people trying...
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[15:05:01] <exec> 08└─ffttt, "dances"? The last one EF got so fed up with everyone talking about the new WOW expansion that he ripped his shirt off, climbed onto a table, and started air humping while shouting "i am the manliest!" This really offended MDC who was sleeping under the table and he began to sing loudly (and...
[15:05:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Leebert [3511] (Score:2) 02Waste of money - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:05:09] <exec> 08└─Since 29 August 2015, the group lived in close quarters in a dome, without fresh air, fresh food or privacy.
[15:06:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score:2) 02Re:From the department of redundancy dept.? - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:01] <exec> 08└─Aren't all signals from deep space going to be extraterrestrial, pretty much by definition...? Hell, there are a fair few man-made signals kicking around now that are extra-terrestrial...
[15:07:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:stop it - 06Fracking Chemicals Alter Hormone Levels in Mice - 442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:27] <exec> 08└─I never said that. Fracc'it up all you fucking want. Just do it right. Do it safely. Do it under civilian review after getting rid of the national security protections. OSHA exists, and rig workers can be protected and not exploited. Actually follow the regulations that would have prevented the disa...
[15:08:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bama's Extra Big-Ass Legacy - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:58] <exec> 08└─Maybe you want to be a little more worried about the current putt-stop in office, who just handed $400 million in unmarked cash directly to terrorists, then lied about it being a ransom, even though both Iran and the hostages themselves say that it was.
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[16:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02West Coast Americana - 06Oregon State Fair Features Award-Winning Cannabis Plants - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:02:07] <exec> 08└─doesn't do a lot for me
[16:02:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:64-bit cyphers - 06Big Data Busts Crypto: 'Sweet32' Captures Collisions in Old Ciphers - 613 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:16] <exec> 08└─I find it even more telling because the designers of Blowfish and 3DES have said to use their more secure successors. But part of the problem is that people don't really understand cryptography, so what they will do is use their favorite search engine and follow the instructions there, and if the in...
[16:02:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Block sizes - 06Big Data Busts Crypto: 'Sweet32' Captures Collisions in Old Ciphers - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:21] <exec> 08└─But the French won't surrender to women who don't wear bikinis!
[16:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How Much Captured Traffic? - 06Big Data Busts Crypto: 'Sweet32' Captures Collisions in Old Ciphers - 536 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:26] <exec> 08└─Yes, this. IIRC openvpn defaults to key renegotiation every hour. If you have a connection capable of passing 785 GB in an hour, then you better change the renegotiation setting (can be set to seconds, bytes or packets) or use a an algo with a larger block size. Or maybe both, because it's unlikely...
[16:02:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:treat the symptoms? - 06World Health Organization: Gonorrhea Becoming Untreatable - 1333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:45] <exec> 08└─No. The real problem in the USA is this: http://www.politifact.com [politifact.com] Most antibiotics are fed to livestock that aren't sick. This creates a _constant_ environment where only resis...
[16:03:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03quintessence [6227] (Score:2) 02Re:Only state bureaucrats are happy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 970 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:49] <exec> 08└─This sounds like a variation on Malthus, which hasn't had very good predictive power. Besides, there is a great deal of catastrophe and pain to occur before people take flight, which it seems like California is attempting to ameliorate, even if it is through questionable means. You'll note the poore...
[16:06:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Really? - 06Apple is Sued Over iPhone 6 "Touch Disease" - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:25] <exec> 08└─> So if the manufacturer knows there's a defect that makes it stop working after 3 years. He is legally on the hook for it Citation needed. Unless it's a clear safety issue, the manufacturer typically only provides fixes on their own dime once they tally the probability of rabid press, pissed custom...
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[17:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:West Coast Americana - 06Oregon State Fair Features Award-Winning Cannabis Plants - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:20] <exec> 08└─You need to see Pink Floyds "The Wall" while blazing, it makes it so much better.
[17:02:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02That sounds pretty stupid - 06Oregon State Fair Features Award-Winning Cannabis Plants - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:02:22] <exec> 08└─So they judge the plant on how it looks, but not actually how it works? That's like a chili contest that judges the chili solely by the list of ingredients going into it and the equipment used to cook it.
[17:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:That sounds pretty stupid - 06Oregon State Fair Features Award-Winning Cannabis Plants - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:24] <exec> 08└─Kind of like a wet t-shirt contest without water or bodies.
[17:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:That sounds pretty stupid - 06Oregon State Fair Features Award-Winning Cannabis Plants - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:26] <exec> 08└─I expect that if all this went fully mainstream, more categories would appear with less reluctance to "test" the substances. Ready to vape bud, oil, "baked goods". Judging the plant by its appearance? That's not so bad. They judge watermelons by weight/volume and not taste, right?
[17:02:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:That sounds pretty stupid - 06Oregon State Fair Features Award-Winning Cannabis Plants - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:28] <exec> 08└─I don't think you got the concept of the story. The concept is State Fair - Weed Division.
[17:02:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Weed is Politically Correct Now - 06Oregon State Fair Features Award-Winning Cannabis Plants - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:30] <exec> 08└─The concept at work here is "Weed is Politically Correct Now" to preempt attempts to criminalize it again.
[17:02:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Touché) 02Re:That sounds pretty stupid - 06Oregon State Fair Features Award-Winning Cannabis Plants - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:32] <exec> 08└─Maybe, maybe not. If it's cattle or pigs, do they cook up some steaks and bacon? It seems like it's in line with the nature of similar contests.
[17:02:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:That sounds pretty stupid - 06Oregon State Fair Features Award-Winning Cannabis Plants - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:34] <exec> 08└─Softwares judged by the coding and does it run linux? You think tech nerds have any moral high ground on the issue of superficial prejudice?
[17:02:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Block sizes - 06Big Data Busts Crypto: 'Sweet32' Captures Collisions in Old Ciphers - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:49] <exec> 08└─I for one am quite willing to surrender to women wearing bikinis! "No, please, use your top and bottom to tie me up with... or i might, you know, try to escape maybe.... maybe?"
[17:02:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:How Much Captured Traffic? - 06Big Data Busts Crypto: 'Sweet32' Captures Collisions in Old Ciphers - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:53] <exec> 08└─New Verizon marketing : "Our new plans have been tailored to guarantee your safety from Sweet32 attacks*" *: You get half the data allocation of the previous plan, for $10/month more
[17:03:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Hartree [195] 02Re:treat the symptoms? - 06World Health Organization: Gonorrhea Becoming Untreatable - 1485 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:11] <exec> 08└─"an AIDS cure would kill the pharma industry" Nonsense. None of the drugs for it are even in the top ten in terms of profits for them. There just aren't enough AIDS patient in wealthy countries for it to be. If you want profits go for cholesterol meds (Lipitor for example), or gastro-esophageal refl...
[17:03:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I had a friend who worked at the health department - 06World Health Organization: Gonorrhea Becoming Untreatable - 2108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:14] <exec> 08└─Part of not being PC is dealing with reality. Part of my friends job was going out and notifying people that they had potentially been exposed to XYZ and should see a doctor and get tested. He did this for diseases where treatment is mandatory like TB, and where under our state law you can be compel...
[17:03:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02No Musky - 06Most Distant Galaxy Cluster Discovered at 11.1 Billion Light Years from Earth - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:03:26] <exec> 08└─No Musky means No Comments.
[17:04:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Oakenshield [4900] 02Re:Only state bureaucrats are happy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 65 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:04:08] <exec> 08└─Economic fun fact... prices are set by the buyer, not the seller.
[17:04:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:People Do Want to Live in Apartments. - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 1596 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:04:29] <exec> 08└─As a personal anecdote, I experienced both the homeowner's burdens and the renter's uncertainty. I am renting now and have no plans to go back to owning a house in any foreseeable future. Not until I retire, at least - and even then it might be a few hundred miles away from everything. A private hom...
[17:04:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:China - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:04:34] <exec> 08└─Ok, so California is taking some responsibility by limiting the CO2 they put directly in the air. Great. But the last time I checked, China was also a major polluter, dumping CO2 and other stuff in to the the air everyone else has to live with, largely on behalf of all the crap we buy from them. So...
[17:05:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:I'll repeat myself ... - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:05:21] <exec> 08└─Yes-ish. It still provided a decent simulation of factors like how much 6 people stuck in close quarters for an extended period get on each others' nerves, which is something they are specifically worried about (for good reason: imagine if a crew member decided to get homicidal).
[17:05:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:I don't like the guy... - 06New Zealand Judge to Allow Kim Dotcom to Livestream Extradition Appeal - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:05:59] <exec> 08└─C'mon guys. My offhanded remark about how I feel about the dude is hardly insightful, or anything else other than just babbling my opinion, really.
[17:06:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re: that noise .... - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:06:14] <exec> 08└─That's the electronic noise spike you'd expect to pick up being the target of a large railgun launching a ton of iron at a significant fraction of the speed of light, right? That'll teach us to be noisy neighbors ...
[17:06:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03ankh [754] (Score:1) 02Re: that noise .... - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:06:15] <exec> 08└─The timing is right. From Wikipedia: On March 8, 1916, Harold Power with his radio company American Radio and Research Company (AMRAD), broadcast the first continuous broadcast in the world from Tufts University under the call sign 1XE (it lasted 3 hours).
[17:06:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I smell hype - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 1199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:06:26] <exec> 08└─Even then, they're betting that the Gliese 581 c-ians have a technological civilization right now and they're hoping that they've got their ears pointed in this direction. If they're behind our progress even by a hundred years, they'll miss it no matter how much of an intriguing and high-minded cult...
[17:07:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Teckla [3812] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm surprised the number is so low - 06TrendForce: 56% of PCs Sold Will Come With SSDs by 2018 - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:42] <exec> 08└─Try to push 1TB of data into the cloud from most US locations, and suddenly redundant spinning rust doesn't sounds too bad.
[17:10:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And then - 06Amazon Said to Plan Music-Streaming Service for its Echo Speaker - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:38] <exec> 08└─What's that you say? Businesses just want to maximize profit??? That's just crazy talk! Sorry for the very backhanded way of saying excellent post and well written! p.s. note.... Bezos has certainly indicated that profit isn't always his highest motive. (Not saying your wrong, just pointing out a pa...
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[18:02:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02If only your dog could talk! - 06Your Dog Understands More Than You Think - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:09] <exec> 08└─You'd be in jail now for bestiality and rape.
[18:02:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:If only your dog could talk! - 06Your Dog Understands More Than You Think - 430 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:11] <exec> 08└─Despite your childish comment I'll run with this topic instead of making a new one. All dogs can talk. You just have to learn to listen. Most of their language is (like human communication) non verbal. Some of it is sub-vocal. All those little pants, sighs, yawns, grunts and groans have meaning. If...
[18:02:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:If only your dog could talk! - 06Your Dog Understands More Than You Think - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:13] <exec> 08└─Are you, by chance, a police officer? A soldier? Security guard? Are you a dumb-as-a-brick human who demands respect at all times by non-verbal deference to your authority? News flash, idiot: humans communicate verbally. And yes, fudkface, I am dissing your motherfucking ass.
[18:02:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:If only your dog could talk! - 06Your Dog Understands More Than You Think - 714 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:15] <exec> 08└─Perhaps, but a lot of the meaning is imaginary and exists only in the mind of a human. Sighs and yawns usually mean the same things as they mean in humans, cats, apes, and dogs. These are biological in nature and exist in a wide variety of mammals. Dogs don't alert on a trespasser by yawning. A twit...
[18:02:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:If only your dog could talk! - 06Your Dog Understands More Than You Think - 778 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:17] <exec> 08└─exactly, anthromorphism - "My dog LOVES me". No it doesn't, you feed it. The study was interesting, because the control language they used was Hungarian - no European relatives apart from Finnish and Estonian. The problem is , a human treated the same way would give the same result. Only anecdotal b...
[18:02:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Nice to have confirmation - 06Your Dog Understands More Than You Think - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:19] <exec> 08└─This is "news" to everyone except dog owners. Next, another shocking study will find that some sheep dogs can even understand certain whistle tones and sequences!
[18:02:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:Nice to have confirmation - 06Your Dog Understands More Than You Think - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:22] <exec> 08└─This is "news" to everyone except dog owners.
[18:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02My dogs... - 06Your Dog Understands More Than You Think - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:24] <exec> 08└─When I open the door and say "out" they run the other way, usually to a back bedroom. One of them hides if I say "chicken", another looks for bugs if I say "bug". They're smarter than you think.
[18:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Pet owners everywhere: "No duhhh!" - 06Your Dog Understands More Than You Think - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:26] <exec> 08└─ANYONE who owns a dog can tell you this. Personally I'd put them at about the level of a three year old child for intelligence, and honestly a hell of a lot higher than most adult humans for honesty, loyalty, and unselfish love. I'm definitely a cat person, but will give credit where it's due.
[18:02:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Pet owners everywhere: "No duhhh!" - 06Your Dog Understands More Than You Think - 497 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:28] <exec> 08└─Agreed. Even my cats know words. "Bug-bug" makes them look at the ceiling and walk around mewing looking for a bug. "Foo-foo" and they run to the kitchen for their wet food. I've tried to teach them other things but they don't give a damn unless it's in some way beneficial to them. Even though "foo-...
[18:02:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ramze [6029] (Score:1) 02Thank you Rick Romero - 06Your Dog Understands More Than You Think - 479 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:30] <exec> 08└─Is this from the department of "Duh?" My dogs knew LOTS of words -- probably around 200. I mean very specific words. Names of other animals, toys, foods, objects like ceiling fans and vacuum cleaners. Don't tell me the typical dog doesn't know what "bath", "ride", and "walk" mean. Trainers have be...
[18:02:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Weed is Politically Correct Now - 06Oregon State Fair Features Award-Winning Cannabis Plants - 477 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:45] <exec> 08└─It truly frightens me the kind of authoritarian, dictatorial, jackboot hellhole of a society the alt-right want. You oppose things for the sake of opposition. The Party of "No" cranked to 11. You are a counter-culture that embraces and revels in all of the worst traits of humanity. Please select a f...
[18:02:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Oregon State Fair - 06Oregon State Fair Features Award-Winning Cannabis Plants - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:48] <exec> 08└─You have happily died of dysentery, man...
[18:02:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oregon State Fair - 06Oregon State Fair Features Award-Winning Cannabis Plants - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:50] <exec> 08└─I'm so glad I never played The Oregon Trail. The trite comments made by those who played are so very tiresome. I'ma gonna give weaponized dysentery to some laser sharks!!! Hurr huh.
[18:03:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:I had a friend who worked at the health departm - 06World Health Organization: Gonorrhea Becoming Untreatable - 469 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:03:32] <exec> 08└─Statistically speaking, gay women have LOWER rates of almost every STD out there; I think the only exception was some form of mild chlamydia, and I will bet my shiny gold star THAT one was introduced by some bisexual woman who caught it off a man. The risk factor seems to be lack of forethought and...
[18:03:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:max orbital distance? - 06Two New Kuiper Belt Objects Boost the Case for "Planet Nine" - 782 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:03:58] <exec> 08└─According to Hollywood, it will happen, and change its orbit such that a collision with Earth is inevitable unless a group of courageous Americans, sent by Margan freeman and led by Vin Diesel and whoever can provide the most spacesuit cleavage, apply the solution at the last second. Which they will...
[18:04:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:But the Trees will Suffocate!! - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:21] <exec> 08└─He is probably from one of those places where the local government is so hands-off that they don't bother to remind you to breathe.
[18:04:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:2) 02Re:Only state bureaucrats are happy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:50] <exec> 08└─Plenty of people have to drive a hundred miles per day or more.
[18:05:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:I'll repeat myself ... - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:05:41] <exec> 08└─> imagine if a crew member decided to get homicidal My point exactly. If someone goes postal, either directly or through sabotage, the door opens and you get help, instead of being on your own to fix the person and whatever damage they caused. That makes it less likely that someone will go postal, a...
[18:06:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re: that noise .... - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:06:36] <exec> 08└─Ummm if it is 90 light years away wouldn't they have just gotten it 10 years ago? And wouldn't it take another 80 years for us to get the reply?
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[19:02:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:2) 02Sigh - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:02:13] <exec> 08└─Half of those aren't even legal in my country, whatever they say or make you sign. And if you want to go, who cares about telling them why? That's up to them to ask if they want to bother to fix, which if they are having mass-meetings on it with all staff, they obviously don't. Tell them to stuff it...
[19:02:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03driven [6295] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Policies, notice - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 921 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:02:14] <exec> 08└─Good on them for at least being forthright about what is expected of their employees. If only this could have been touched on during the hiring process since it is apparently very core to their values. Interview time would have been a more convenient time for you and the company for you to decide it...
[19:02:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Just leave - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:02:16] <exec> 08└─Just leave. Don't give a reason: they know that their policies are hostile. Don't give any notice. Just wait until the last day before you start your new job. If you give notice, they will probably terminate you immediately.
[19:02:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just leave - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:19] <exec> 08└─This is the right choice, especially if you are in a "right to work" state. Given that my employeer has a policy of never commenting to anyone on former employees (either for a good or a bad review), then there is zero reason to ever give the employeer a 2week notice *unless* you think you may need...
[19:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03mr_mischief [4884] (Score:3, Insightful) 02calling out policies is burning bridges - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 379 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:02:21] <exec> 08└─You say you don't want to burn bridges. Then you say you want to call out the company's policies and put the blame on them for losing you. Those sound contradictory to me. Say you think this new place is a better fit for you personally if they ask. If they ask why it's a better fit, maybe, and I mea...
[19:02:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:2) 02¡Oh dear! - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:02:23] <exec> 08└─You know, it sounds like the sort of company that would fire you without notice for anything, including budget cuts, so I don't think it is necessary to give them notice. Now, I would not waste time telling them why you are quitting, simply announce that you are moving on and thanks for all the fish...
[19:02:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:3, Informative) 02Have you passed the 90 day mark? - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:02:25] <exec> 08└─Usually the first 90 days is considered a probationary period. This usually means that the employer can let you go without any notice or compensation. This also means that you can leave without any notice. Review the terms of your employment, and if you don't have any obligation, then thank them ver...
[19:02:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03rondon [5167] (Score:2) 02If - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:02:27] <exec> 08└─If you are in the USA, check to see your state laws. Some states require employees to be paid their two weeks regardless - however the probation period may effect that as well.
[19:02:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02soulless? hmm - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 1300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:02:29] <exec> 08└─Personally I would tell them you will be leaving in a note, that you found a place you think you fit better. I wouldn't mind hinting to them that you don't care for the policies but such policies are typically, in my experience, the result of being a super-huge mega-corp that gives zero $#@ks and ju...
[19:02:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:soulless? hmm - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:32] <exec> 08└─such policies are typically, in my experience, the result of being a super-huge mega-corp that gives zero $#@ks and judges people by the numbers
[19:02:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Interesting) 02Start unionizing - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:02:34] <exec> 08└─Instead of quitting, stay for the two-week notice period and spend that time helping to unionize the place. They'll probably fire you (illegally) and you may get severance and possibly money from a civil judgement. To get back at them for being mean to you, give them what they fear the most. It's ev...
[19:02:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Capt. Obvious [6089] (Score:2) 02Re:Start unionizing - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:36] <exec> 08└─If it's their policy to immediately terminate people on giving notice, I doubt "but I was also organizing a union" would somehow make it an illegal firing. In fact, I'd saying organizing a union after giving notice may be some kind of legal interference with the company.
[19:02:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Capt. Obvious [6089] (Score:2) 02Have cake and eat it - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:02:38] <exec> 08└─It sounds like you (a) want to leave immediately and (b) want to not burn bridges by leaving immediately. However, you state you think they will immediately fire you after tendering your notice. It seems like the non-bridge burning solution is to notify them, let them terminate you, and thus achieve...
[19:02:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Let me take the employer's side... - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 1140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:02:40] <exec> 08└─To take the side of the employer: shift planning in call centers is a nightmare, especially if they are open 24/7. It's a tough business with thin margins, and many (sometimes most) employees are working part-time on schedules that mess with other jobs, or child-care, or school, or some other specia...
[19:02:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02just walk away - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 1702 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:02:42] <exec> 08└─Sorry to hear it. Being somebody in a technical role in a call center (so I get to just watch this crap without worrying about being part of it), I call tell you with certainty that putting your reasons for leaving in writing will be cathartic at best. Just let them know that you found a better oppo...
[19:02:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The next place might be worse! - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 689 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:02:45] <exec> 08└─If you burn bridges, walk out, tell them to shove it, get back at them, give them the finger (literally, or figuratively), simply stop going there... and then you start your hot new steaming job... and you find it is worse (or much worse) than the earlier job. So I suggest you try to do the best you...
[19:02:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:2) 02Define sentence - 06Your Dog Understands More Than You Think - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:57] <exec> 08└─comprehension required using the word in a sentence
[19:02:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:If only your dog could talk! - 06Your Dog Understands More Than You Think - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:58] <exec> 08└─Sighs and yawns usually mean the same things as they mean in humans, cats, apes, and dogs. These are biological in nature and exist in a wide variety of mammals. It appears to be slightly more complicated than that. Can Dogs Feel Our Emotions? Yawn Study Suggests Yes [nationalgeographic.c...
[19:03:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:2) 02Dogs - 06Your Dog Understands More Than You Think - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:05] <exec> 08└─If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man. - Mark Twain in Pudd'nhead Wilson
[19:03:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02YO DAUG!!! - 06Your Dog Understands More Than You Think - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:03:08] <exec> 08└─I hear yo daug smarter than you, so I bring this doorknob shaped like a dog that's smarter than you and yo mama.
[19:03:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03takyon [881] 02Re:That sounds pretty stupid - 06Oregon State Fair Features Award-Winning Cannabis Plants - 281 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:19] <exec> 08└─I expect that if all this went fully mainstream, more categories would appear with less reluctance to "test" the substances. Ready to vape bud, oil, "baked goods". Judging the plant by its appearance? That's not so bad. They judge watermelons by weight/volume and not taste, right?
[19:03:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:64-bit cyphers - 06Big Data Busts Crypto: 'Sweet32' Captures Collisions in Old Ciphers - 445 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:38] <exec> 08└─In the example BLOWFISH isn't a 64 bit cypher in that that key is 64 bits (it is actually 488 bits) but the block size is 64 bits. Similar with 3DES which has an effective key length (IIRC) of 112 but again has a block size of 64 bits. There really isn't anything special about this given that years...
[19:04:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:treat the symptoms? - 06World Health Organization: Gonorrhea Becoming Untreatable - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:04:03] <exec> 08└─ranchers for using antibiotics on healthy cows to improve their value
[19:04:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I had a friend who worked at the health departm - 06World Health Organization: Gonorrhea Becoming Untreatable - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:04:10] <exec> 08└─Another quite convincing argument to vote for Clinton, right here on Soylent news!
[19:05:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:But the Trees will Suffocate!! - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:01] <exec> 08└─The Alliance of Ents also opposed the bill.
[19:05:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Only state bureaucrats are happy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 1384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:19] <exec> 08└─Not quite. The lake or sea is ok for cooling, but doesn't work at all for heating. You want to sink it down into a bunch of solid rock (or equivalent...loose stones don't give as good conduction, and water tend to make things cooler. Then you will end up with a yearly average temperature. (I wouldn'...
[19:05:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Only state bureaucrats are happy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 437 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:23] <exec> 08└─Having known some of them, I explicitly *don't* know that those are the lowest paid people. The lowest paid people can't afford the commute, and have to live in inferior housing in undesirable areas. The long commutes are made by people who want to live in a 1950's middle class life-style, but can't...
[19:05:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:Only state bureaucrats are happy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 408 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:25] <exec> 08└─It's hard to speak for others, but among my personal acquaintances one plumber commutes to Bay Area from Santa Cruz, one mechanic commutes from Pleasanton, one engineer commutes from Gilroy, another engineer commutes from Modesto, and another contractor lives in Santa Cruz and is effectively exclude...
[19:05:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:Only state bureaucrats are happy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:35] <exec> 08└─80% of families are two-car households with one of those cars being driven exclusively less than 40 miles a day. The original Nissan Leaf from several years ago is perfect for those people
[19:05:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:2) 02Re:Only state bureaucrats are happy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:37] <exec> 08└─Perhaps because they have nowhere to charge this wonder?
[19:05:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Only state bureaucrats are happy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:39] <exec> 08└─The flight from CA is ongoing. Businesses and people alike move out as soon as they can. That's a pretty odd statement to make about the 17th fastest growing state in the union. [wikipedia.org]
[19:05:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:Only state bureaucrats are happy - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:41] <exec> 08└─Purely personal observations... I cannot tell who comes in, but I know for a fact that many leave. I'm not leaving yet because I can afford burning a lot of cash on convenience and pleasant weather. But I have minimal expenses otherwise. YMMV. One of my coworkers is buying a house in Gilroy this ver...
[19:05:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:China - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:48] <exec> 08└─So how about an additional tax or something on items produced by China? There is one, it's paid by the people of China, to the tune of 26.7 billion dollars. [bloomberg.com]
[19:06:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Teckla [3812] (Score:2) 02Re:They forgot the most important obstacle. - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:06:50] <exec> 08└─Providing a scientific justification for sending meat to Mars when robots can do it better at a fraction of the cost. This one is easy. Redundancy of the human race, in case of an extinction level event on Earth.
[19:07:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I don't like the guy... - 06New Zealand Judge to Allow Kim Dotcom to Livestream Extradition Appeal - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:12] <exec> 08└─Really? So, the US government didn't take all his money?
[19:08:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03quitte [306] (Score:2) 02good - 06Apple is Sued Over iPhone 6 "Touch Disease" - 569 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:08:31] <exec> 08└─After quite a bit of taking off components from iphone boards I'm convinced this issue is bigger than touchscreens failing: Their soldering process is flawed. There are lots and lots of ESD protection diodes with cold joints that get just blown away by the hot air once the underfill is gone. Similar...
[19:09:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:stop it - 06Fracking Chemicals Alter Hormone Levels in Mice - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:25] <exec> 08└─If that's what you believe, then why are you arguing at all? I didn't say otherwise. And once again, fracking fluid composition is a trade secret issue not a national security issue. There's an exemption for trade secrets in the US FOIA law.
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[20:03:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03scruffybeard [533] (Score:2) 02Re:Just leave - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 481 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:03:24] <exec> 08└─I disagree. First, it is just polite. Be a professional, and offer to close out projects, and give them time to react. Second, while you may never work for that company again, there is a chance you may be working for someone from that organization. Is two weeks really that much to give to secure you...
[20:03:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03scruffybeard [533] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:calling out policies is burning bridges - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:03:26] <exec> 08└─I agree, be polite and professional. If you don't sound bitter they may take you more seriously. I wouldn't offer an explanation unless asked. If they care enough to ask, they likely have some feedback process to _hopefully_ make things better. If they don't ask, then they probably don't care, so wh...
[20:03:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:soulless? hmm - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:03:33] <exec> 08└─Having a policy achieves that, there is no need to have a hostile policy.
[20:03:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Have cake and eat it - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 912 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:03:38] <exec> 08└─There's a slight problem with this plan: what if they want him to keep working for those 2 weeks while they look for a replacement? If he told his new employer that he'd start immediately after putting in notice at the old place, now he's in a real spot since he can't be in two places at once, and n...
[20:03:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Let me take the employer's side... - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 897 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:03:41] <exec> 08└─One popular strategy is to either schedule on-call operators or offer an operator to be on-call in exchange for something. You also over-schedule since you can always send people home. There's always some kind of offer if they have to start calling operators at random like a gift card (makes me wond...
[20:03:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Capt. Obvious [6089] (Score:2) 02Re:Let me take the employer's side... - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:03:44] <exec> 08└─You also over-schedule since you can always send people home.
[20:03:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Let me take the employer's side... - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 874 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:03:46] <exec> 08└─You're right, there are different kinds of call centers. The ones I've been involved with had customers who really would hang on the line until it was answered, even if that took an hour minutes. Worse was when the call center started offering a "call back" option, because that actually took more pe...
[20:03:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Let me take the employer's side... - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:03:48] <exec> 08└─By the same token, "have ebola? Come in anyway" is effectively demanding an assault on your coworkers. One day, it'll probably cause a pandemic.
[20:03:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03mechanicjay [7] (Score:2) 02Re:Let me take the employer's side... - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:03:50] <exec> 08└─Add to this: employees too often abuse sick leave. Hung over? Call in sick. Had an argument with your SO? Call in sick. Prefer going to the pool? Call in sick. Need to study for your final? Call in sick.
[20:03:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Let me take the employer's side... - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 2516 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:03:52] <exec> 08└─To counter your counterpoint, as someone who has worked as a manager, and also worked with call center management and staff writing software for them: As the boss, it's your responsibility to have a pretty good idea of who on your staff is reliable and who isn't. So when you're scheduling people, yo...
[20:03:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Telemarketer? - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:03:56] <exec> 08└─Tell them to shove it up their Clinton. Go back to school, get a higher education.
[20:03:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Contract? - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 633 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:03:58] <exec> 08└─Did you sign a contract? If so, check it over, possibly with the assistance of an attorney. If it says they owe you pay after you stop working, and you care about that money, follow whatever procedures they lay out. If it doesn't set out any consequences for either of you for terminating the contrac...
[20:04:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02ride it out - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 2307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:04:01] <exec> 08└─Look right now you are mad. I can not blame you for that. That does sound pretty crappy. However, it is a small world. I have seen excellent people looked over because of the way they acted on their last days in previous jobs. One guy I worked with was doing contract work. The custom at the company...
[20:04:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Give Two Weeks Notice - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 505 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:04:03] <exec> 08└─Look, most companies hiring unskilled labor and doing the training themselves have similar policies and always have. Even union shops generally reserve the right to fire you for any reason at all the first three months. If you can't handle it, you can't handle working. Give them notice and stick it...
[20:04:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:If only your dog could talk! - 06Your Dog Understands More Than You Think - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:04:17] <exec> 08└─"My dog LOVES me". No it doesn't, you feed it.
[20:04:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Nice to have confirmation - 06Your Dog Understands More Than You Think - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:04:21] <exec> 08└─Dogs understand that if you are cute and friendly, and occasionally ignore a poke or tantrum, you get to lounge around all day while your "owners" slave at work to feed you. You usually get away with breaking small stuff and someone else cleans the mess. Cherry on the cake: nobody ever talks about t...
[20:04:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Thank you Rick Romero - 06Your Dog Understands More Than You Think - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:04:28] <exec> 08└─This was a study done on dead dogs. It was a "conceptual replication" of that dead salmon study. http://www.uh.edu [uh.edu] http://prefrontal.org [prefrontal.org]
[20:04:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Thank you Rick Romero - 06Your Dog Understands More Than You Think - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:04:30] <exec> 08└─Don't tell me the typical dog doesn't know what "bath", "ride", and "walk" mean.
[20:04:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Who you talking to? - 06Your Dog Understands More Than You Think - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:04:33] <exec> 08└─Your Dog Understands More Than You Think
[20:05:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No Musky - 06Most Distant Galaxy Cluster Discovered at 11.1 Billion Light Years from Earth - 1322 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:05:48] <exec> 08└─My bad. I accidentally killed a comment I was going to make about SpaceEngine [spaceengine.org]. The add-ons are easier to install than Celestia's [celestiaproject.net] but otherwise it's like Celestia but with a ship you can fly and light-bending effects due to black holes and the ship's Alcubierre...
[20:07:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Capt. Obvious [6089] (Score:2) 02Re:China - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:09] <exec> 08└─California can make a gesture like this primarily because they've outsourced manufacturing. It's not hard to have wineries and tech startups reach carbon neutral. Of course, their lifestyle still requires CO2 be generated, but that's not directly by them. So they can feel smug and then hit the beach...
[20:07:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Capt. Obvious [6089] (Score:2) 02Re:I'll repeat myself ... - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:58] <exec> 08└─That sounds like something you would work up to. Say after a year+ of living in a technically identical bubble on the surface.
[20:08:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Capt. Obvious [6089] (Score:2) 02Re:Waste of money - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:23] <exec> 08└─Why spend money on test subjects in Hawaii when they could just study our cube farm?
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[21:02:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:2) 02PR nightmare in the wings - 06SpaceX to Reuse a First Stage Booster to Launch a Commercial Satellite - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:02:09] <exec> 08└─If this flight doesn't go exactly correct, the likelihood that SpaceX will recover IMHO is very slim. Why they don't fly it without any payload first is beyond me. No one really cared when they blew up a few rockets trying to land them since there was no payload lost. Losing a customers payload on a...
[21:02:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:2) 02Re:PR nightmare in the wings - 06SpaceX to Reuse a First Stage Booster to Launch a Commercial Satellite - 513 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:11] <exec> 08└─They won't lose customers. At worst, they might have to fly a few of the reused rockets with no payload to prove that they are safe. SpaceX has a pretty huge cost advantage and also has a pretty decent track record. One failure on an experimental rocket won't affect much. If their customers are scar...
[21:02:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03draconx [4649] (Score:2) 02Re:PR nightmare in the wings - 06SpaceX to Reuse a First Stage Booster to Launch a Commercial Satellite - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:13] <exec> 08└─Pretty sure basically everyone launching expensive payloads into orbit has launch insurance. SES is likely receiving a substantial discount on this launch and they obviously considered the risk worth it. I love the "Flight-Proven" label. Just brilliant.
[21:02:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:Just leave - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:28] <exec> 08└─I disagree. First, it is just polite. Be a professional, and offer to close out projects, and give them time to react.
[21:02:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Just leave - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 408 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:30] <exec> 08└─Seriously, you're quitting a call center (and good for you!) Their goals are to meet bare minimum legal requirements to stay in business, as efficiently as possible which translates to minimum pay+benefits and maximum work for the employees. One exit interview is not going to change that industry. G...
[21:02:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:calling out policies is burning bridges - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:34] <exec> 08└─That is what got me. Either be polite give your 2 weeks and shut your pie hole, or say fuck-it work up to the day before you start you new job and tell them you quite and to go fuck themselves with a spindle sander on your way out the door.
[21:02:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:calling out policies is burning bridges - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 547 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:36] <exec> 08└─They aren't contradictory, they want to provide constructive feedback (obviously with some bitterness associated) to the company. Humans being emotional creatures it is basically impossible to offer any sort of criticism without "burning the bridge" but if they give two weeks and have done good work...
[21:02:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Employment at Will - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 423 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:40] <exec> 08└─> Review the terms of your employment, and if you don't have any obligation, In the US, 49 states are "employment at will" [nolo.com] states (and Montana is just slightly less permissive) which means they can fire without notice and without cause at any point in time and you can quit without notice...
[21:02:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Start unionizing - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:48] <exec> 08└─You, and the 4 people who have modded you up so far, appear to be unfamiliar with the concept of not burning bridges.
[21:02:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Start unionizing - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:51] <exec> 08└─Yeah the employer shouldn't have built that bridge out of tinder then.
[21:02:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Capt. Obvious [6089] (Score:2) 02Re:Have cake and eat it - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 447 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:55] <exec> 08└─I didn't read actually fulfilling the 2 weeks of work as a problem in the OP. But maybe it is. If so, you're right, it's a bet. But, he could always give 2 weeks notice, and then cut that to 0 days. So it's not as big a bet as losing his new job, it's looking like a bigger asshole. And you're right,...
[21:02:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Let me take the employer's side... - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:03:00] <exec> 08└─If you ask me to budget 8 hours of my time, you better be prepared to compensate me for 8 hours.
[21:03:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Capt. Obvious [6089] (Score:2) 02Re:Let me take the employer's side... - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:03:02] <exec> 08└─I'm not saying the OP isn't also subjected to this. I'm saying, that seems worse than "if you skip 3 days in the first 3 months of employment, you will be terminated"
[21:03:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Let me take the employer's side... - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:03:06] <exec> 08└─Do not care. The employees are expendable.
[21:03:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Let me take the employer's side... - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:03:10] <exec> 08└─> What's the point of having supervisors if you aren't trusting them to make decisions affecting the personnel in their departments? Look who you are responding to. Someone whose sum total conception of human behavior is the completely reductive idea that people are cogs in the wheel of life. Good j...
[21:03:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Telemarketer? - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:03:15] <exec> 08└─Get an education, if you want to waste money for a negative return on investment. The only thing education does for you in this economy is make you overqualified and unemployable for any job anywhere.
[21:03:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Give Two Weeks Notice - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:03:21] <exec> 08└─I agree. Mostly. Worker hostile policies are for assholes. But Connor has no idea if he might need those assholes in the future. So he should put his ego aside and let them think he's a good little drone. At the level of call center employment nobody is going to appreciate even a hint of non-conform...
[21:03:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Suck Lots Of Cock - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:03:23] <exec> 08└─Suck cock. It's how to get a head.
[21:03:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03frink [461] (Score:1) 02Take them up on it! - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:03:25] <exec> 08└─A friend of mine in the US with a similarly stupid employment contract in a call centre went into the office with what turned up to be Norovirus, puked up all over their desk and were then sent home. Within 48 hours half the call centre of 80 people were puking up all over the place, most of them tu...
[21:03:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:If only your dog could talk! - 06Your Dog Understands More Than You Think - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:03:36] <exec> 08└─No, I'm a physician. Experts would disagree [wikipedia.org] with you.
[21:03:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:If only your dog could talk! - 06Your Dog Understands More Than You Think - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:03:42] <exec> 08└─Perhaps, but a lot of the meaning is imaginary and exists only in the mind of a human.
[21:03:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Pet owners everywhere: "No duhhh!" - 06Your Dog Understands More Than You Think - 1624 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:03:50] <exec> 08└─I absolutely cannot say the word "cat" without triggering a barking episode and my dogs bolting to the door to look for the damned cat (we had a cat assuming ownership of our back yard for a while - boy did he get a shock every time the door was open). It got so bad that we couldn't even say words t...
[21:03:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:Thank you Rick Romero - 06Your Dog Understands More Than You Think - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:03:56] <exec> 08└─My dog's a complete ditz. "Wanna go for a walk?" I ask her, every time. Blank look, every time. She knows perfectly well what "sit" means, but only does it when she can see a reward in front of her.
[21:04:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Boss... - 06Your Dog Understands More Than You Think - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:04:00] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I do. It's my boss who fails to understand me!
[21:05:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:treat the symptoms? - 06World Health Organization: Gonorrhea Becoming Untreatable - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:05:03] <exec> 08└─an AIDS cure would kill the pharma industry
[21:06:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Completely Irrelevant - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:37] <exec> 08└─So what? The people for whom it is most easy to take the first step are taking the first step. Somebody has to go first. If it were the people for whom it is hardest to take the first step, I'm pretty sure you'd be shitting on them for being unrealistic. Heads you win, tails they lose.
[21:06:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Capt. Obvious [6089] (Score:2) 02Re:Completely Irrelevant - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:38] <exec> 08└─Yes, gotta start somewhere. But this really doesn't seem like much. In the past, California has gotten better fuel standards for cars by mandating them for sale in the state. I worry that without that motivator of higher than US standards, this law will actually do damage to the environment by encou...
[21:07:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Leebert [3511] (Score:2) 02Re:Waste of money - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:52] <exec> 08└─No. *sob*
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[22:01:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02response - 06Wikileaks Screening - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:01:53] <exec> 08└─https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2016/08/25/the-ap-and-wikileaks-are-brawling-over-a-privacy-story/?utm_term=.31779fcbda10 [washingtonpost.com]
[22:02:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:PR nightmare in the wings - 06SpaceX to Reuse a First Stage Booster to Launch a Commercial Satellite - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:04] <exec> 08└─Yes, they do have insurance, and SES said that the insurance premium difference between a new rocket and the used rocket was insignificant. I'm sure any additional premiums were greatly offset by the discount provided by SpaceX.
[22:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:PR nightmare in the wings - 06SpaceX to Reuse a First Stage Booster to Launch a Commercial Satellite - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:05] <exec> 08└─Brilliant? No. Manipulative and dishonest? Oh, that's what you meant? Good on you?
[22:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:PR nightmare in the wings - 06SpaceX to Reuse a First Stage Booster to Launch a Commercial Satellite - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:07] <exec> 08└─The proper label, straight from the concrete industry, would have been pre-stressed. The car dealers would have replace "used" with "550-points inspection. One owner". One could imagine why they didn't go for those.
[22:02:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:PR nightmare in the wings - 06SpaceX to Reuse a First Stage Booster to Launch a Commercial Satellite - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:10] <exec> 08└─Companies aren't going to hand millions of dollars to SpaceX without understanding that "flight-proven" means used.
[22:02:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:Just leave - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 3217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:24] <exec> 08└─What are the goals here? 1) Get out, 2) don't burn bridges, 3) don't get cheated of your pay, and 4) don't make yourself look bad. Let them say the stupid stuff and look bad. Maybe they will. Take notes, too, if it's so bad there's good odds they would be in trouble if their words and deeds reached...
[22:02:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score:2) 02Re:Just leave - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:27] <exec> 08└─That doesn't mean that you should stoop to their level. If you want to be a professional, then you should always treat others as if they are professionals even if it isn't deserved. If the lack of respect continues, then terminating that relationship is warranted, but I think maintaining an unimpeac...
[22:02:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score:2) 02Re:Just leave - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 575 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:29] <exec> 08└─Professionalism and politeness are two way streets. If you would get two weeks severance if you get the axe in a downsizing, you owe them two weeks notice. If they've been polite and professional to you, then you should be polite and professional to them and give them two weeks. If it's the sort of...
[22:02:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:calling out policies is burning bridges - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:36] <exec> 08└─You say you don't want to burn bridges. Then you say you want to call out the company's policies and put the blame on them for losing you. Those sound contradictory to me.
[22:02:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Start unionizing - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 315 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:02:45] <exec> 08└─Instead of quitting, stay for the two-week notice period and spend that time helping to unionize the place. They'll probably fire you (illegally) and you may get severance and possibly money from a civil judgement. To get back at them for being mean to you, give them what they fear the most. It's ev...
[22:03:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:2) 02Re:Let me take the employer's side... - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:03:00] <exec> 08└─Especially employees who don't take their vacation due to some weird sense of loyalty to their company.
[22:03:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Telemarketer? - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:03:08] <exec> 08└─Only if you don't set goals and strive for excellence. Maybe that's why I was able to retire in my 50s.
[22:03:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Telemarketer? - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:03:10] <exec> 08└─If you're already retired, then you are not a job-seeking member of the post-recession economy. You're just sitting on your smug asshole declaring "fuck you already got mine!"
[22:03:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] 02Pet owners everywhere: "No duhhh!" - 06Your Dog Understands More Than You Think - 294 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:03:34] <exec> 08└─ANYONE who owns a dog can tell you this. Personally I'd put them at about the level of a three year old child for intelligence, and honestly a hell of a lot higher than most adult humans for honesty, loyalty, and unselfish love. I'm definitely a cat person, but will give credit where it's due.
[22:03:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Pet owners everywhere: "No duhhh!" - 06Your Dog Understands More Than You Think - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:03:38] <exec> 08└─Personally I'd put them at about the level of a three year old child for intelligence
[22:03:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03ese002 [5306] (Score:2) 02Maybe the dogs can only distinguish nonsense - 06Your Dog Understands More Than You Think - 458 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:03:47] <exec> 08└─I don't think this test demonstrates that the dogs understand the meaning of words. It may simply mean that they pick up the difference between speaking sense from speaking nonsense. It could be subtle differences in tone that human ears fail to notice or it could be random word sequencing. A bette...
[22:04:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Entropy [4228] (Score:2) 02Re:That sounds pretty stupid - 06Oregon State Fair Features Award-Winning Cannabis Plants - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:04:04] <exec> 08└─It might be pretty hard in a contest setting to test how well the plant works, I guess. Once you're high--You're high. Then there's tolerance issue, and you really couldn't be sure which plant(s) you sampled might be doing exactly what. This is kind of like a blind wet t-shirt contest where we're he...
[22:05:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No Musky - 06Most Distant Galaxy Cluster Discovered at 11.1 Billion Light Years from Earth - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:05:04] <exec> 08└─You can turn off all the procedural planets and stars. Then the other galaxies just become blobs of light, except for a few hypergiant stars in clusters or dwarf galaxies orbiting close to the Milky Way.
[22:06:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02poor workers - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:06:09] <exec> 08└─Some of these workers will go away, thereby reducing property value. Some of these workers will get paid more. Neither change would be bad.
[22:06:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02with an EV, how do you move? - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:06:20] <exec> 08└─My commute has never exceeded 15 miles, and is usually under 5. I have however moved from California to Texas to Massachusetts to Florida. Am I expected to sell the car and buy a new one? Am I expected to pay to have it towed?
[22:06:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:2) 02Re:with an EV, how do you move? - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 889 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:06:21] <exec> 08└─If your concept of moving doesn't involve moving vans, you're far enough out of the mainstream that you're not relevant to the question. If it does, then you'd deal with it the same way most people do with their own daily drivers. If you're doing it on the cheap and renting the van and driving the v...
[22:06:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Circadian Disorders website - 06Edible Batteries Offer Power Without Toxic Metals - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:06:58] <exec> 08└─http://www.circadiandisorders.org/ [circadiandisorders.org] Treatments have been proposed for it but none have proved to be of lasting value. The best advice I can give someone is to work at night, which you already do. I'm a night owl too but I also have a very hard time sticking to a specific sche...
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[23:02:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jiro [3176] (Score:2) 02Re:response - 06Wikileaks Screening - 691 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:18] <exec> 08└─What nonsense (from AP): "She called the episode a “disaster.” WikiLeaks, reported the AP, even published the “name of a Saudi citizen arrested for being gay, an extraordinary move given that homosexuality can lead to social ostracism, a prison sentence or even death in the ultraconservative M...
[23:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Ends justifying the means - 06Wikileaks Screening - 928 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:02:20] <exec> 08└─Wikileaks doesn't give a fuck about anyone, or anything, other than making hard to come by information readily available to the public in its RAW form to encourage change. It would be one thing if Wikileaks had the goal of improving society, helping people, serving the common good, but that is not W...
[23:02:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:Ends justifying the means - 06Wikileaks Screening - 1379 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:22] <exec> 08└─1. for myself, i am TOTALLY over 'our' (sic) police state, from top to bottom... DO NOT believe for ONE nano-second it makes US 'safer' in any meaningful way... 2. i DO NOT for ONE femto-second believe the state lies and propaganda that 'we' (meaning 'we the people', not the 'royal we' of the korpor...
[23:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Court's fault - 06Wikileaks Screening - 855 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:02:24] <exec> 08└─If the information is censored then the courts will be able to discount it due to it not being a fair and accurate representation - much like historic videos that do not show the entire police assault. It is not surprising therefore this is a popular meme. Undermining Wikileaks in any way possible i...
[23:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Court's fault - 06Wikileaks Screening - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:26] <exec> 08└─Undermining WikiLeaks is a pressing priority since they are due to release Clinton information before the election. The timing of the upcoming release is also a legitimate point of criticism, but if the data is good, nobody will care no matter how much the Clinton camp screams about a Russian conspi...
[23:02:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Wikileaks iz teh Good Guyz - 06Wikileaks Screening - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:02:28] <exec> 08└─How dare you criticize anything wikileaks does?? Wikileaks is the good guys. The good guys. Good guys use torrents, and good guys use tor, and good guys use wikileaks. Because wikileaks is the good guys!! the good guys!!! - every net twit
[23:02:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wikileaks iz teh Good Guyz - 06Wikileaks Screening - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:31] <exec> 08└─They are twits, but you are worthless scum. - kill yourself
[23:02:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:PR nightmare in the wings - 06SpaceX to Reuse a First Stage Booster to Launch a Commercial Satellite - 603 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:43] <exec> 08└─Pre-stressed concrete doesn't fit in that same category, Because it is LESS likely to fail the more you load it (up to the design point). Cars and houses are a much better fit to the flight tested model. I've taken cars for test drives that lasted longer than this booster has flown before. Factory-c...
[23:02:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:PR nightmare in the wings - 06SpaceX to Reuse a First Stage Booster to Launch a Commercial Satellite - 391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:46] <exec> 08└─Its already built into the launch price. And I imagine it comes with a replacement cost clause to the client. Then, Insurance. The payload is a bog standard com-sat, there are probably 5 more in the build queue just like it. Nobody's life depends on this launch. Its a perfect test case. Space-X Will...
[23:02:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Cheerleaders - question - 06SpaceX to Reuse a First Stage Booster to Launch a Commercial Satellite - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:02:48] <exec> 08└─There is clearly interest in spaceX on this website. I'm kind of at a loss why. You are basically cheerleading for a commercial entity that wants to sell (near)space flights to millionares. If I understand correctly, you believe this will lead to space travel. And more Star Trek movies. Is that it?...
[23:02:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ledow [5567] 02Sigh - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 310 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:02:58] <exec> 08└─Half of those aren't even legal in my country, whatever they say or make you sign. And if you want to go, who cares about telling them why? That's up to them to ask if they want to bother to fix, which if they are having mass-meetings on it with all staff, they obviously don't. Tell them to stuff it...
[23:03:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Just leave - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:10] <exec> 08└─I disagree. First, it is just polite. Be a professional, and offer to close out projects, and give them time to react.
[23:03:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:¡Oh dear! - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:19] <exec> 08└─Right on. Considering it's a call center, I'd wager ten bucks that they're only paying you about ten bucks, so it's not like they value their employees in the first place.
[23:03:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03black6host [3827] (Score:2) 02Re:Have you passed the 90 day mark? - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:23] <exec> 08└─Here in the states you get paid for probationary periods. And in most states they can fire you any time, for any reason. We had probationary periods at many places I've worked and it doesn't matter if you make your 90 days and then on day 120 they decide you're not the right stuff. You're outta ther...
[23:03:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Start unionizing - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:33] <exec> 08└─What's tinder to one man, are match-sticks to another ;)
[23:03:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03tbuskey [6127] (Score:1) 02Re:Let me take the employer's side... - 06Ask Soylent: Quitting No-Notice over Worker-Hostile Policies? - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:47] <exec> 08└─By the same token, "have ebola? Come in anyway" is effectively demanding an assault on your coworkers. One day, it'll probably cause a pandemic.
[23:04:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:That sounds pretty stupid - 06Oregon State Fair Features Award-Winning Cannabis Plants - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:49] <exec> 08└─So they judge the plant on how it looks, but not actually how it works? That's like a chili contest that judges the chili solely by the list of ingredients going into it and the equipment used to cook it.
[23:05:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I had a friend who worked at the health departm - 06World Health Organization: Gonorrhea Becoming Untreatable - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:36] <exec> 08└─The risk factor seems to be lack of forethought and self-control, and men seem to have more of a problem with this than women do for whatever reason.
[23:05:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02It is better to flunk your Wasserman Test... - 06World Health Organization: Gonorrhea Becoming Untreatable - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:05:43] <exec> 08└─... than never to have loved at all.
[23:06:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:max orbital distance? - 06Two New Kuiper Belt Objects Boost the Case for "Planet Nine" - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:07] <exec> 08└─Unless, of course, Nemesis exists! The Nemesis theory was devised to account for this regularity in the timing of the mass extinctions reported by Raup and Sepkoski. According to this model, a companion star orbiting the Sun perturbs the Oort comet cloud every 26 Myr causing comet showers in the in...
[23:07:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:with an EV, how do you move? - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 636 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:10] <exec> 08└─The semi-cheap long-haul way is to hire ABF. I did it from Massachusetts to Florida with 2 kids, 1 wife, and 1 car. You get a 28-foot trailer (rear part of a short 18-wheeler) dropped off for you to load. You get a couple days to load it, then the driver comes back and heads off with it. (adding com...
[23:07:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Completely Irrelevant - 06California Likely to Impose Drastic Carbon Dioxide Restrictions - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:21] <exec> 08└─This law is the mechanism for higher fuel standards. It gives CARB the authority to mandate the necessary fuel efficiencies to meet the total carbon emissions target.
[23:08:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03mhajicek [51] 02Re:they're going to get T3h C4nc3r - 06NASA Ends Year-Long Mars Simulation - 161 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:19] <exec> 08└─Not so much glowing, as light flashes whenever a particle of radiation hits the retina: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
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