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[00:22:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03julian [6003] (Score:2) 02Alzheimer's - 06Gene Wilder Dies Aged 83 - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:22:30] <exec> 08└─Another Alzheimer's loss, which means he probably really left us a few years ago. Eternal oblivion is coming for all of us eventually, I hope I'm lucky enough not to have to suffer the additional indignity of a slowly eroding mentality before the end. I'll have to pull out Young Frankenstein for the...
[00:22:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Alzheimer's - 06Gene Wilder Dies Aged 83 - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:22:32] <exec> 08└─I was hoping for a Young Frankenstein Part 2 or something similar with Gene, but no such luck now. In other news... There's a remake of Rocky Horror Picture Show coming up soon, time to get out the makeup and drag costumes.
[00:22:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Alzheimer's - 06Gene Wilder Dies Aged 83 - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:22:34] <exec> 08└─https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3TDwa2cDOc [youtube.com]
[00:22:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Alzheimer's - 06Gene Wilder Dies Aged 83 - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:22:36] <exec> 08└─You dare link the remake? Where'd I put that banhammer?
[00:22:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Alzheimer's - 06Gene Wilder Dies Aged 83 - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:22:38] <exec> 08└─We should have a SN screening. I call dibs on Eddie. I've already got the leather and if I stop eating green things I can have the build by the time it's released.
[00:22:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Alzheimer's - 06Gene Wilder Dies Aged 83 - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:22:40] <exec> 08└─Stop eating Soylent Green?
[00:22:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Alzheimer's - 06Gene Wilder Dies Aged 83 - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:22:43] <exec> 08└─http://www.sens.org/research/introduction-to-sens-research/extracellular-junk [sens.org]
[00:22:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03snufu [5855] (Score:2) 02Good day, sir. - 06Gene Wilder Dies Aged 83 - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:22:45] <exec> 08└─You will be missed and never forgotten.
[00:22:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02V Sad - 06Gene Wilder Dies Aged 83 - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:22:47] <exec> 08└─I will download a torrent of Blazing Saddles in his honour.
[00:22:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Enhance security - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:22:58] <exec> 08└─While there might be some solutions that could help alleviate the issues with electronic voting, I have no confidence that they'd be implemented correctly or that the systems would use 100% free software, which should be a requirement. Paper ballots are brain-dead easy.
[00:23:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Significant Risk - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:23:11] <exec> 08└─That's not a bad first assumption, but given the reaction to revelations of these security issues, it no longer is the simplest assumption.
[00:23:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:Significant Risk - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 635 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:23:12] <exec> 08└─If they machines are not deliberately insecure, then why has the state-of-the-art rgressed, rather than impoved? Computer Scientists Take Over Electronic Voting Machine with New Programming Technique [ucsd.edu] In that paper [ucsd.edu] (pdf), they use a novel "return oriented programming" technique...
[00:23:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Short-term thinking, MBA’s in action... - 06China Launches Own Aircraft Engine-Maker to Rival the West - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:23:31] <exec> 08└─Well, the alternative was a bunch of employees enriching themselves via industrial espionage. This way, the execs make the money instead, and it's all legal! They're actually helping their employees not become criminals!
[00:23:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02They may be successful.... - 06China Launches Own Aircraft Engine-Maker to Rival the West - 1059 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:32] <exec> 08└─... but maybe not. While it's true that the Chinese have historically been very good at cloning other country's technology, a jet engine may not be quite so easy to do. The Russians also have a history of this sort of thing and they actually do build decent jet engines. Yet, no one outside of Russia...
[00:24:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:The significance of this - 06Police Say No Shooting Occurred at LAX - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:24:57] <exec> 08└─So did they evacuate the saloon? It doesn't sound like it.
[00:25:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:The significance of this - 06Police Say No Shooting Occurred at LAX - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:25:01] <exec> 08└─I'm going to need a citation for airports being a frequent target of terrorism. Airplanes, somewhat. How long did they close that gas station for?
[00:29:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You are Idiots - 06A Confession of Liberal Intolerance - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:29:29] <exec> 08└─Nice! Thanks for the link. That explains a lot.
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[02:01:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fix the Prices!! - 06Solar Price Continues to Fall to New Lows - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:01:59] <exec> 08└─We cannot have poor people getting free sunlightl They must be trained! Trained to consume billable light! Close those windows! Close those blinds! Close those curtains! Close those shades! CONSUME BILLABLE LIGHT OR THE TERRORISTS WIN!!!!!
[02:02:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02paragraph missing from "summary" - 06Solar Price Continues to Fall to New Lows - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:02:00] <exec> 08└─The fourth paragraph of the article is missing, but there's no ellipsis to indicate the omission.
[02:02:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:paragraph missing from "summary" - 06Solar Price Continues to Fall to New Lows - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:03] <exec> 08└─Paragraphs are interchangable, fungable, and decorative.
[02:02:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:paragraph missing from "summary" - 06Solar Price Continues to Fall to New Lows - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:05] <exec> 08└─Fixed, thanks.
[02:02:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Still seems high - 06Solar Price Continues to Fall to New Lows - 734 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:02:07] <exec> 08└─Its still the price of a new car. In round bald numbers its still 25K for a small rooftop. And you better have that roof redone while you are in the process, or you will have to tear up the solar to do it later. The price seems to be held at a level that you MIGHT break even in a northern-tier state...
[02:02:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02install cost - 06Solar Price Continues to Fall to New Lows - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:02:09] <exec> 08└─Install cost remains about the same. For me the HW cost has long been the small part. The install cost pushes a 7k system into a 25k system. When I live I can get about 20-25% subsidy. What is helping is higher voltage panels as the install cost goes down because ... less panels.
[02:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Alzheimer's - 06Gene Wilder Dies Aged 83 - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:21] <exec> 08└─Come on now... You know you want to sing along!
[02:02:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Alzheimer's - 06Gene Wilder Dies Aged 83 - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:24] <exec> 08└─There would be some very disappointed ladies if I stopped eating people.
[02:02:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Good day, sir. - 06Gene Wilder Dies Aged 83 - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:28] <exec> 08└─unless we too get Alzheimer's
[02:02:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Re:V Sad - 06Gene Wilder Dies Aged 83 - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:31] <exec> 08└─You mean to say you will leech and seed a torrent. I hope you get busted for infringement on the upload. Have a bad day, torrent freak.
[02:02:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:V Sad - 06Gene Wilder Dies Aged 83 - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:33] <exec> 08└─don't see nothing about uploading, only donwloading
[02:02:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02LLAP Gene - 06Gene Wilder Dies Aged 83 - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:02:36] <exec> 08└─"He's really not dead, as long as we remember him." Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory was a Christmas week school blow-off time favorite.
[02:02:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Just remembered - 06Gene Wilder Dies Aged 83 - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:02:38] <exec> 08└─He was the widower of the brilliant Gilda Radner.
[02:02:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bob_super [1357] 02Re:Hanging Chads [Re:Enhance security] - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 407 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:49] <exec> 08└─If what's being hacked is the voter registration data, the question is not so much the corruption of the votes themselves, as the ability to enact massive vote suppression against the people least equipped to fight to get their name back on the list on time. Obviously, adding records is also possibl...
[02:02:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hanging Chads [Re:Enhance security] - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:51] <exec> 08└─I hear Bobby Drop Tables is now registered to vote in both states.
[02:02:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Enhance security - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 515 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:55] <exec> 08└─I tend to agree, adding additional levels of complexity such that the common citizen in the street can no longer understand how it works is absolutely NOT the answer. Neither is tossing it all in a computer where one well timed power failure wipes out entire elections. Wrong. Criminally Wrong. You c...
[02:02:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:Enhance security - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:57] <exec> 08└─It's inherently a horrible idea based simply on the inevitability that, just like everything else, the technology will not be designed and perfected by passionate geeks seeking perfection, but by the cheapest excuse for programmers the bosses can find, using unsuitable tools, without any formal 'des...
[02:02:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Enhance security - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:59] <exec> 08└─It's inherently a horrible idea based simply on the inevitability that, just like everything else, the technology will not be designed and perfected by passionate geeks seeking perfection, but by the cheapest excuse for programmers the bosses can find, using unsuitable tools, without any formal 'des...
[02:03:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:Enhance security - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 440 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:03:01] <exec> 08└─You're missing the point. I don't have the power to put him in charge, and neither do you. The people that do have that power in our society have neither the knowledge nor the motivation to make, nay *let* this work the way it should. They were always going to do exactly what they're doing, doling o...
[02:03:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcross [4009] (Score:2) 02Re:Cover? - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:03:08] <exec> 08└─I think there was a story about this just last week: https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org]
[02:03:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Cover? - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:03:10] <exec> 08└─The last time this happened the Supreme Court decided who won, and then sealed the evidence so nobody could check it.
[02:03:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:They stole already public records - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:03:16] <exec> 08└─So yes, this is a great segway
[02:03:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:They stole already public records - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 428 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:03:18] <exec> 08└─We presume a crime has occurred. But realistically we don't actually know, because its on a need to know basis. But that won't stop federal over-reach. This could serve as a new impetus for federalizing the whole process. Pat-downs as you enter the polling place. No-Vote Lists. What's easier to pene...
[02:03:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcross [4009] (Score:2) 02Re:They stole already public records - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:03:21] <exec> 08└─That hardly eases my mind about it, since anyone concerned only with getting that data likely wouldn't bother breaking in. It just makes me wonder what else they might have been up to...
[02:03:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re: More recent report - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 737 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:03:28] <exec> 08└─Tampering with US voting machine as easy as ‘abcde’, says Virginia report [sophos.com] The system at the heart of the matter is the AVS WINVote touchscreen Direct Recording Electronic (DRE) machine, made by Advanced Voting Solutions. It was used in a long list of Virginia counties in 2014, pass...
[02:03:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:1) 02Re:Significant Risk - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:03:30] <exec> 08└─This may be related: http://www.counterpunch.org
[02:03:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:So what? - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:03:33] <exec> 08└─I like your line of thinking, but that is not paranoid enough. My own comments [soylentnews.org]
[02:03:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Simpler, printer & scanner - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 554 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:03:36] <exec> 08└─Computer prints ballot which has easily readable and OCR-able text. Voter folds that (maybe inserts in envelope), gets out of the closed cabin and puts the paper(s) in the box that is in the table controlled by other people. Later open the box and count. Use a scanner if you want it fast, for exampl...
[02:03:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:So what? - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 551 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:03:39] <exec> 08└─That still allows the programmer to change the vote between the screen and the ROM, but only on the first Tuesday of November and when more than N people have voted at a certain pace during the day. There is nothing safer than a bunch of single-choice papers in an envelope inside a transparent urn,...
[02:03:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Reconciliation - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 667 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:03:42] <exec> 08└─So, how practical is it to build in voter reconciliation into e-voting? On top of whatever mechanism in place, the e-vote is tagged with a one time UUID for the voter to either print out or write-down or take a photo with their mobile, etc. A large query/read-only online database is then uploaded af...
[02:03:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] 02Re:C-H-I-N-A, C-H-I-N-A, C-H-I-N-A - 06China Launches Own Aircraft Engine-Maker to Rival the West - 395 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:03:53] <exec> 08└─On a barely related note, with the upset over a benched football player not standing for an anthem, perhaps we should take a closer look at the idea that American soldiers who died in Iraq "died for our freedom" and somehow that our rights "are afforded to us" by a flag. Saddam was never going to pu...
[02:03:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Which - 06China Launches Own Aircraft Engine-Maker to Rival the West - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:03:58] <exec> 08└─I looked at a couple of stories from official media outlet CCTV. They don't say this is the country's first manufacturer of aircraft engines of any kind, but rather the first ones for big commercial jets: Until this point, the country did not make large commercial jet engines of its own.
[02:04:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcross [4009] (Score:2) 02Re:They may be successful.... - 06China Launches Own Aircraft Engine-Maker to Rival the West - 662 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:04:03] <exec> 08└─Interesting, but China doesn't really need to sell the engines abroad. As the world's second-biggest military spender, they should have a fairly large demand just from that, and it should continue to grow as more and more Chinese are wealthy enough to fly domestically. Perhaps more importantly to th...
[02:04:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02solid plan - 06China Launches Own Aircraft Engine-Maker to Rival the West - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:04:05] <exec> 08└─Step 1: buy Russian military engines so you can make unreliable clones in your crappy factory Step 2: arm-twist GE (not hard) into building a factory for commercial airliner (super reliable) engines in China Step 3: combine the stolen knowledge to build reliable military engines
[02:04:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Cargo Cult - 06French Law Requires Search Engines to Pay Royalties to Index Images - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:04:31] <exec> 08└─Damn You Auto-correct!!!
[02:04:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:So... - 06French Law Requires Search Engines to Pay Royalties to Index Images - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:04:39] <exec> 08└─Even if royalties were less than a fraction of a Euro, it would cost Google millions upon millions.
[02:04:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Over-reach much? - 06French Law Requires Search Engines to Pay Royalties to Index Images - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:04:45] <exec> 08└─Why on earth would you post something to Facebook if you didn't expect it to somehow eventually end up being made public?
[02:04:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02timing - 06French Law Requires Search Engines to Pay Royalties to Index Images - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:04:56] <exec> 08└─They want to cash in on the pictures of that sunbather in Nice taking off her burqini.
[02:05:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:The significance of this - 06Police Say No Shooting Occurred at LAX - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:05:43] <exec> 08└─You're an adult who obviously owns a computer.
[02:06:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You don't understand the GOP at all - 06Two Trade Deals Struggling for Approval - 875 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:06:12] <exec> 08└─So according to you, one day they might not actually be racist, but because of code words that supposedly exist, and are counted by their political opponents according to some hidden conspiracy theory style list, they can always be painted as racists forever. Because everything's a dog whistle. Prot...
[02:08:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03GeriatricGentleman [1192] (Score:1) 02Re:Revised famous quote - 06Edible Casein Packaging - 1208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:08:25] <exec> 08└─Many moons ago I used to work in a casein factory. Pretty good work too. In the end I quit, went to do software engineering and in my uni holidays worked in a biscuit factory. Bah, that was awful - an unbelievable amount of biscuits get touched by people during the manufacturing process - I don't ea...
[02:09:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Expecting all but abject failure from nu-Mozill - 06Mozilla Launches Website Security Testing Tool - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:09:08] <exec> 08└─That's because of the SJWs.
[02:10:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Subjects are an anacrhonism - 06A Confession of Liberal Intolerance - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:56] <exec> 08└─It is an economic theory, just as testable as any and all economic theories.
[02:11:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:The Devil Quotes Scripture for His Own Means... - 06A Confession of Liberal Intolerance - 628 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:11:14] <exec> 08└─One plausible reason would be because, on a per incident basis, the Bible is more given to promoting atrocities than to promoting compassion. It also has a lot about self-defense being good, of course, but almost nobody disagrees with that. An occasional Christian will, and there are places that bac...
[02:11:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Science has so outpaced me - 06Giant Molecule Made from Two Cesium Atoms - 903 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:11:29] <exec> 08└─I find that prideful people tend to be the ones that overrate what they know. I'm not saying I'm anywhere near perfect but I find that the more intelligent people are humble because they have a better idea of how much they don't know and there is a whole lot of information that any one person doesn'...
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[03:02:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Huh? - 06Public Cost of Fukushima Cleanup Exceeds $41B and is Climbing - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:02:00] <exec> 08└─$4.2 trillion yen
[03:02:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Huh? - 06Public Cost of Fukushima Cleanup Exceeds $41B and is Climbing - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:02] <exec> 08└─I use an American keyboard with God's glyphs on it. No foreign funny money. Fixed.
[03:02:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Huh? - 06Public Cost of Fukushima Cleanup Exceeds $41B and is Climbing - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:04] <exec> 08└─Protip: If you use the currency symbol you don't have to have the currency name after the number.
[03:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Huh? - 06Public Cost of Fukushima Cleanup Exceeds $41B and is Climbing - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:06] <exec> 08└─Fixed again. I was more worried about the big problem with the story as it was submitted [soylentnews.org]: the completely wrong $628 billion figure.
[03:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Huh? - 06Public Cost of Fukushima Cleanup Exceeds $41B and is Climbing - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:08] <exec> 08└─It should read: $4.2 trillion yen is approximately ¥41 billion dollars.
[03:02:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Huh? - 06Public Cost of Fukushima Cleanup Exceeds $41B and is Climbing - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:10] <exec> 08└─LOL.
[03:02:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Compare to Coal - 06Public Cost of Fukushima Cleanup Exceeds $41B and is Climbing - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:02:12] <exec> 08└─I have no idea how much coal pollution has cost us. Probably a lot more. But its the difference between 40,000 people dying in car accidents each year and 2,000 people dying all at once in a skyscraper in the middle of manhattan. People notice big events and ignore low-level noise.
[03:02:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Still seems high - 06Solar Price Continues to Fall to New Lows - 853 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:24] <exec> 08└─> The price seems to be held at a level that you MIGHT break even in a northern-tier state after the things are paid for, No shit sherlock. That's pretty much the definition of breaking even. > which will be about when they start failing. Not in the slightest. Solar panels are rated for 80% of origi...
[03:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:Still seems high - 06Solar Price Continues to Fall to New Lows - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:25] <exec> 08└─Please get your facts straight. Its still the price of a new car. In round bald numbers its still 25K for a small rooftop.
[03:02:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Re:install cost - 06Solar Price Continues to Fall to New Lows - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:29] <exec> 08└─When I live I can get about 20-25% subsidy.
[03:02:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Alzheimer's - 06Gene Wilder Dies Aged 83 - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:44] <exec> 08└─Heeeere, kitty kitty kitty... ;)
[03:02:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Alzheimer's - 06Gene Wilder Dies Aged 83 - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:46] <exec> 08└─Actually, he was relatively sharp in 2013 when he did an interview for the 92nd street Y. https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] But, knowing that he had Alzheimer's it's a bit more obvious when he's struggling to remember things that he probably wouldn't have had much trouble rem...
[03:02:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Hulk sad - 06Gene Wilder Dies Aged 83 - 460 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:02:56] <exec> 08└─Put... the candle.... back... Frau Blücher: Would the doctor care for a... brandy before retiring? Dr. Frankenstein: No. Thank you. Frau Blücher: Some varm milk... perhaps? Dr. Frankenstein: No... thank you very much. No thanks. Frau Blücher: Ovaltine? Dr. Frankenstein: NOTHING! Thank you! I'm a...
[03:03:05] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Enhance security - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 359 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:03:06] <exec> 08└─How about instead of foolishly trying to enhance the security of computer systems that mostly run non-free proprietary user-subjugating software, we switch to a voting method that we know can't be easily rigged on a massive scale: Paper ballots. We should not be using computers for something as impo...
[03:03:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fool's Errand - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 827 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:03:17] <exec> 08└─> Accepting the centralised organization's identity verification process as valid, And that right there is why devlux is on a fool's errand. Not the part about accepting the validity, but the fact that his entire system relies on identity verification. You can not have both a secret ballot and a pro...
[03:03:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Fool's Errand - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:03:18] <exec> 08└─You could have a system where each voter gets a receipt with a code, and can verify their vote anonymously. They would only need to identify themselves if they wished to contest how their vote had been counted.
[03:03:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03dingus [5224] (Score:2) 02Re:Enhance security - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:03:20] <exec> 08└─Venezuela's system is pretty good: you fill out a paper ballot slip and feed it into the computer, which reports to a central server and also keeps a copy locally. So there are three records of every vote that can be counted seperately.
[03:03:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:They stole already public records - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:03:32] <exec> 08└─What does your enthusiasm for Dean Camen's two-wheeled monstrosity have to do with voting?
[03:03:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Significant Risk - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:03:39] <exec> 08└─> That's not a bad first assumption, but given the reaction to revelations of these security issues, it no longer is the simplest assumption. Help us out here, could you describe the reaction you are talking about? Because the reactions I've seen have been entirely consistent with ignorance, apathy...
[03:03:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02No Cooks in the Kitchen Means the Pot Boils Over - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 626 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:03:44] <exec> 08└─> If they machines are not deliberately insecure, then why has the state-of-the-art rgressed, rather than impoved? Lack of anyone in charge giving a shit mean things continue right on down the shitter. New security exploits are developed on a daily basis, but nobody actively working to improve secur...
[03:04:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Bobs [1462] 02Short-term thinking, MBA’s in action... - 06China Launches Own Aircraft Engine-Maker to Rival the West - 1328 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:04:06] <exec> 08└─This is an example of non-Chinese manufacturers agreeing to move production plants into China, in order to sell there. GE (and many, many others) have built plants in China, effectively turned over trade secrets and manufacturing processes to state-owned firms/partners. Now the people and plants in...
[03:05:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:The significance of this - 06Police Say No Shooting Occurred at LAX - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:05:48] <exec> 08└─Now, how am I to find out how long the gas station was closed? Did it make the news? Can you narrow my search to a year? As for airport attacks in the U.S., there's the TWA baggage terminal in 1975. Any more? Of course, that was a bomb, not a gun.
[03:05:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:The significance of this - 06Police Say No Shooting Occurred at LAX - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:05:49] <exec> 08└─Now, how am I to find out how long the gas station was closed? Did it make the news? Can you narrow my search to a year?
[03:06:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:''flipping every gerrymandered seat'' - 06Two Trade Deals Struggling for Approval - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:50] <exec> 08└─Gerrymandering is also very effective at burying majority voices by lumping them into a few, very safe districts for your opponents while giving your side slight advantages in many more districts. https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[03:08:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Food Allergies - 06Edible Casein Packaging - 443 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:14] <exec> 08└─Allergies are a complicated problem and I doubt very much that it's going to turn out to be just one factor. Sanitation, diet as well as the ability to prevent early fatalities from allergies likely all play a role. I know that I personally have more issues with my allergies when I'm eating wheat an...
[03:08:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Food Allergies - 06Edible Casein Packaging - 519 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:26] <exec> 08└─That's a moot point as observant Jews and Muslims aren't going to be eating foods that haven't been certified as Kosher or Halal respectively. The certification process is more than just is there nothing in here that's nothing in there that breaks the rules, it has to be properly monitored and certi...
[03:08:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Environmentally friendly milk? - 06Edible Casein Packaging - 742 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:33] <exec> 08└─If it's about the carbon footprint, then you haven't minimized it. The greenest diet in existence would be a diet that consists mainly of plant matter, but with a small amount of sustainable meats. The process of growing meat is relatively bad for the environment, however, the body can digest essent...
[03:08:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03boltronics [580] (Score:2) 02Re:Environmentally friendly milk? - 06Edible Casein Packaging - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:35] <exec> 08└─It's not only about the carbon footprint, but that's a big factor. It might be possible reduce it further by adding sustainable meats, but I'm not going to go there. I do take supplements, and stopped donating blood to keep my iron levels up.
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[04:01:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I only watch at 240p - 06Netflix: VP9 Codec Can Beat H.265/HEVC at 1080p or Higher Resolutions - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:01:59] <exec> 08└─https://www.xkcd.com/598/ [xkcd.com]
[04:02:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Compare to Coal - 06Public Cost of Fukushima Cleanup Exceeds $41B and is Climbing - 427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:02:13] <exec> 08└─Yeah I'm curious how many people would get impaired or their life expectancy reduced significantly if they didn't decontaminate stuff and the people moved back (just avoiding the worst areas near the reactor). Would it be worse than say the Japanese moving to live in Beijing in China (regular poor a...
[04:02:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Compare to Coal - 06Public Cost of Fukushima Cleanup Exceeds $41B and is Climbing - 1421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:02:15] <exec> 08└─Coal-burning plants are an ongoing source of pollution, and so is the situation at Fukushima. Mining coal is a dangerous endeavour; so is the mining of uranium. Coal mining gave us the Aberfan disaster and ongoing underground fires in Germany and Pennsylvania; tailings from uranium mines can release...
[04:02:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02¥1 ≅ 1¢ - 06Public Cost of Fukushima Cleanup Exceeds $41B and is Climbing - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:02:17] <exec> 08└─There have been only a few times in recent history when the yen was much below or above a US cent in value. Right now, it's at about 0.98¢ to the yen.
[04:03:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:Enhance security - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 584 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:03:19] <exec> 08└─I don't doubt it's *technically* possible to make this work, but it's absolutely not possible *politically.* The powerful have no particular interest in fair elections and little fear of seeing them rigged, as they'll generally be the ones doing the rigging not the other way around. Combine that wit...
[04:03:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fool's Errand - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:03:23] <exec> 08└─> You could have a system where each voter gets a receipt with a code, and can verify their vote anonymously No you could not. If you have a receipt with a code then you can be coerced into giving that receipt with a code to someone else and now your ballot is no longer anonymous. Seriously this is...
[04:03:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Fool's Errand - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:03:25] <exec> 08└─You can not have both a secret ballot and a provably tamper-proof election. That's practically a fundamental law of information theory if not physics in general.
[04:04:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:C-H-I-N-A, C-H-I-N-A, C-H-I-N-A - 06China Launches Own Aircraft Engine-Maker to Rival the West - 653 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:04:10] <exec> 08└─1) Many of them are from an earlier diaspora (their ancestors left China and went to South East Asia and other places), or they are from Hong Kong (which was under the British, so their love and loyalty for the Communist regime is not quite as strong ;) ). 2) Many of them working as labourers in Afr...
[04:04:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:C-H-I-N-A, C-H-I-N-A, C-H-I-N-A - 06China Launches Own Aircraft Engine-Maker to Rival the West - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:04:11] <exec> 08└─p.s. you can see the denial of using prisoners supposedly from the embassy, but of course they're not prisoners- they're not in prison, they're out on parole and getting rehabilitated and training to become a productive member of society ;).
[04:04:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimios [201] (Score:2) 02Novel Sensor? Are we banning books already? - 06Novel Chemical Sensor Six-Times Faster Than Alternatives - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:04:36] <exec> 08└─Oh it's not that kind of novel. Carry on.
[04:08:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03boltronics [580] (Score:2) 02Re:Environmentally friendly milk? - 06Edible Casein Packaging - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:08:40] <exec> 08└─That's great to see, and I agree.
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[05:02:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I only watch at 240p - 06Netflix: VP9 Codec Can Beat H.265/HEVC at 1080p or Higher Resolutions - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:02:04] <exec> 08└─The solution is Japanese as they all seem to have very blocky bits!
[05:02:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Compare to Coal - 06Public Cost of Fukushima Cleanup Exceeds $41B and is Climbing - 719 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:02:20] <exec> 08└─Three reactors had melt-downs. I wonder whether future earthquakes could cause a change in geometry that would lead to criticality, or whether a future tsunami could lead to criticality when seawater acted as a moderator. In such an event, there could be one or more small explosions and radioactive...
[05:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Why do they store the water in liquid form? - 06Public Cost of Fukushima Cleanup Exceeds $41B and is Climbing - 581 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:02:23] <exec> 08└─The US Navy solved this problem decades ago. I am dumbfounded that it has not already been done for the Fukushima water. What the Navy does with used reactor coolant is to make concrete out of it, then bury the concrete AND THE CEMENT MIXER at Hanford. (Except for one time the truck driver stole the...
[05:02:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why do they store the water in liquid form? - 06Public Cost of Fukushima Cleanup Exceeds $41B and is Climbing - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:02:25] <exec> 08└─If I had to guess it is probably much cheaper... that is until something like this happens. But this kind of costs are never on the balance sheets...
[05:02:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:2) 02Re:Still seems high - 06Solar Price Continues to Fall to New Lows - 2608 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:02:39] <exec> 08└─So it's subsidised into profit by a tax credit. Ignoring that, it costs more than ten years of electricity would cost me (probably a lot more, I took the lower numbers I can't do the maths and convert currencies at the same time) to put the system in. And then I'd be limited to a system that can't g...
[05:03:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fool's Errand - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 672 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:03:32] <exec> 08└─> and if you were being coerced into voting a certain way you could just find somebody voting the other way who was willing to let you decieve your aggressor with their private key Lol. Do you even think before posting? (a) Not only is that not easy to do, it is illegal. If the solution to the probl...
[05:03:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Significant Risk - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:03:58] <exec> 08└─It's a weak excuse. Nobody will hack it because that would be hard. WTF!
[05:04:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:C-H-I-N-A, C-H-I-N-A, C-H-I-N-A - 06China Launches Own Aircraft Engine-Maker to Rival the West - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:04:21] <exec> 08└─Careful man... They're sleepers... from the WelHung Dynasty... and just like Dennis Rodman, they're fouling the white man's woman so the next generation will have big dicks 'n stuff.
[05:04:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02"Any Flavor But Lemon" - 06Novel Chemical Sensor Six-Times Faster Than Alternatives - 681 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:04:47] <exec> 08└─You can make the detonator HMTD out of any flavor of Kool-Ade mix other than lemon. I'll leave the other ingredients as an exercise. It's also the suicide bomber's favorite detonator as I once found that all those ingredients can be purchased at any Safeway grocery store, many of which are open 24 h...
[05:05:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmoschner [3296] (Score:2) 02Stream of rambling... - 06French Law Requires Search Engines to Pay Royalties to Index Images - 982 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:05:23] <exec> 08└─I doubt that the search engines are going to pay per image. Most likely it will work kinda like ASCAP/BMI/etc. The search engine pays a yearly fee to deliver images and turns over logs of what images were displayed. Then the collection agency will take a cut to "Cover Expenses" and probably have a p...
[05:06:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:The significance of this - 06Police Say No Shooting Occurred at LAX - 1011 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:06:11] <exec> 08└─How many people here in the U.S. panic about an incident that happened in Istanbul? I give you an airport that sees so much panic about a loud noise they have to evacuate and close it diverting traffic (and it makes the international news) and you come back with a gas station where people are moment...
[05:06:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:There is news here - 06Police Say No Shooting Occurred at LAX - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:06:23] <exec> 08└─How would it avoid a panic when people are that ready to panic?
[05:06:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:We'll see what happens now - 06Two Trade Deals Struggling for Approval - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:06:47] <exec> 08└─There's a lot of Chinese billionaires driving up property values to insane levels around here (Greater Vancouver area) and I understand all up and down the west coast. Real estate developers are making out like bandits with the Provincial governments mantra that the only problem is we're not buildin...
[05:07:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:We'll see what happens now - 06Two Trade Deals Struggling for Approval - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:07:20] <exec> 08└─The reason I say we're not sure if that helped is because we have no proven explanations of why crime started dropping in the early 1990's
[05:09:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How many people touched the packaging? - 06Edible Casein Packaging - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:09:04] <exec> 08└─And how many comments made this point hours ago?
[05:11:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:The Devil Quotes Scripture for His Own Means... - 06A Confession of Liberal Intolerance - 485 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:11:50] <exec> 08└─See, Uzzard, this is another prime example of what I mean by "you make my point for me with your own hand" :) This may surprise you, but I'm only nasty to the people who deserve it. P.S.: guys who use "cunt" as an insult probably don't like ladybits very much. Probably they like huge throbbing dicks...
[05:11:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Morals and their basis - 06A Confession of Liberal Intolerance - 1981 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:11:54] <exec> 08└─I am SO glad you asked! Far too few people ever take any interest in examining themselves or their supposed morals. Basically it goes like this: morality itself, moral machinery you might say, is older than humanity. Much older. I suspect that not only do most or all of the great apes have it, but s...
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[06:01:43] <exec> 08└─Soil is good for growing again! And all you dickwads will think to grow is marijuana. It's a cash crop, hurr hurr hurrrrrrr.
[06:01:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02ten years already - 06Hurricane Katrina and Post-Katrina Recovery Reduced Levels of Lead in New Orleans Soil - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:01:44] <exec> 08└─Bush doesn't care about Black people, Bama doesn't care about White people, Obama killed Osama, Obama's almost a lame duck. Yep, it's been ten years. Shame the economy still hasn't recovered yet. Well that's what you get, when you vote for 16 years of Bushbama. Fuck the American voters to Hell.
[06:01:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Baton Rouge - 06Hurricane Katrina and Post-Katrina Recovery Reduced Levels of Lead in New Orleans Soil - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:01:46] <exec> 08└─With the heavy rain that's been falling, perhaps Baton Rouge will experience the same benefit.
[06:02:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Why do they store the water in liquid form? - 06Public Cost of Fukushima Cleanup Exceeds $41B and is Climbing - 1016 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:02:14] <exec> 08└─That's probably why. TEPCO has filtered much of the water, but tritium is costly to separate. http://nautil.us [nautil.us] One worker said that he did "a shoddy job" of building the tanks; another said he was told to app...
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[06:02:30] <exec> 08└─You seem to be rather confused. Firstly, unless you plan to go off-grid, you should not try to size a system to produce anywhere near your house's theoretical maximum grid load, or even your actual maximum grid load (my typical maximum load is typically about 4:00am, when my EV is charging at 7kW)....
[06:03:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03snufu [5855] (Score:2) 02Re:Hulk sad - 06Gene Wilder Dies Aged 83 - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:03:00] <exec> 08└─Dr. Frankenstein: "I'm a rather brilliant surgeon. Perhaps I can help you with that hump." Igor: "What hump?" Dr. Frankenstein: (Best pause ever.) "...Let's go."
[06:03:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Blazing Saddles! - 06Gene Wilder Dies Aged 83 - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:03:02] <exec> 08└─"The President is a ****8**!" But more, the Waco Kid (prescient there, doncha think?). "You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons." Gene Wilder gave this line deadpan. Beautiful. Only matched by Mongo'...
[06:03:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Enhance security - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 1779 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:03:18] <exec> 08└─I totally agree with you on paper ballots. The system we use in Washington state is really simple. You get a ballot in the mail printed on heavy cardstock about two weeks before the election. You use a pen to mark your vote (no hanging chads from complicated punch machines) -- the place to mark is r...
[06:03:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Fool's Errand - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:03:28] <exec> 08└─Since I have to show ID and prove who I am to be able to vote, I don't expect my vote to be anonymous in the first place.
[06:03:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Fool's Errand - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 966 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:03:32] <exec> 08└─I'm in agreement that your worries about anonymity are valid in the specific case of targeted coercion, and I think my last post makes that clear. I represented it as a minor issue, not a solved problem. It's not like the current system doesn't allow for make-shift evidence of ballots cast -- ballot...
[06:03:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Cover? - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:03:41] <exec> 08└─When that happened, I was a moron who rooted for the guy who ended up winning. Now I'm a moron who's like to think he's slightly smarter: at least smart enough to never make that mistake again. Love your sig.
[06:04:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Re:They may be successful.... - 06China Launches Own Aircraft Engine-Maker to Rival the West - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:04:28] <exec> 08└─if war ever breaks out they'll be able to ramp up plane production without needing an ally to sell them engines
[06:07:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:We'll see what happens now - 06Two Trade Deals Struggling for Approval - 1777 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:07:04] <exec> 08└─At least here in Canada and I believe in many other Parliamentary systems, most people vote who they want to be Prime Minister, or in other words, by party. Most Canadians probably don't even know who their MP is. At the extreme, a few years back when the opposition parties got together and decided...
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[06:07:05] <exec> 08└─The Constitution was pretty well hated when it was first passed, being full of compromises and was expected to be replaced within a couple of decades. Unluckily the government, with the support of the people, just ignored the parts they didn't like rather then fixing it. I'd imagine an attempted rew...
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[07:01:59] <exec> 08└─I haven't read the article (503 error) but I wonder whether they compared the change in blood lead concentrations to another city that didn't experience flooding. Leaded paint and tetraethyl lead in fuel were discontinued years before the hurricane; one would expect that lead might wash away, or be...
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[07:02:01] <exec> 08└─There are several research possibilities for further evaluation of the combined effect of home cleanout and SPb intervention on children's BPb exposure. In addition to investigating the empirical SPb margin of safety to protect children from BPb of ≥5 μg/dL other topics need evaluation. The non-f...
[07:02:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Ya don't say - 06Hurricane Katrina and Post-Katrina Recovery Reduced Levels of Lead in New Orleans Soil - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:02:03] <exec> 08└─And it reduced the level of housing.
[07:02:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:2) 02Re:install cost - 06Solar Price Continues to Fall to New Lows - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:49] <exec> 08└─When I live I can get about 20-25% subsidy.
[07:03:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score:2) 02Re:Good day, sir. - 06Gene Wilder Dies Aged 83 - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:11] <exec> 08└─So say we all.
[07:03:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Fool's Errand - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:49] <exec> 08└─Here's what I actually overlooked until just now: absentee votes are super easy for a third party to confirm with cooperation from the voter, so targeted coercion is even easier than a selfie in the current system. This negates your whole argument unless you oppose absentee voting.
[07:03:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fool's Errand - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 1224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:50] <exec> 08└─Yes there are anonymity problems with vote-by-mail and as more and more districts roll that out eventually somebody is going to start exploiting those problems. But at least they still have the friction of physical ballots so scaling the coercion isn't anywhere near as easy as with e-voting. You'd n...
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[07:03:52] <exec> 08└─The whitepaper is actually an interesting read. We're talking about voting in a booth still. If you were automatically paying anybody for keys that are tied to a specific vote, you're mostly going to be paying people who were going to vote that way regardless. Very cost prohibitive.
[07:03:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Fool's Errand - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:55] <exec> 08└─I do see your point about taking a ballot selfie and then requesting a new ballot. I was trying to think of a clever way around it, but I haven't yet.
[07:03:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Fool's Errand - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:57] <exec> 08└─Oh, wait, here's the clever solution: video transition from selfie to ballot dropping in hole, obviously. Hurpadurpa.
[07:03:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Enhance security - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 686 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:04:00] <exec> 08└─No, the American way would be to outsource the whole thing to India. Hey they're the world's largest democracy. Seriously though, those fancy computer methods are weak at one of the requirements of election systems - convincing the losers they've lost. Paper ballot systems are better at convincing l...
[07:04:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Cover? - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:04:09] <exec> 08└─When that happened, I was a moron who rooted for the guy who ended up winning. Now I'm a moron who's like to think he's slightly smarter: at least smart enough to never make that mistake again.
[07:04:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Cover? - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:04:11] <exec> 08└─Here's to more people waking up! :D
[07:04:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:They may be successful.... - 06China Launches Own Aircraft Engine-Maker to Rival the West - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:04:54] <exec> 08└─If you're going to be in a war, it's useful to have the oil in order to produce your own jet fuel. The United States and Russia can; the Chinese cannot.
[07:06:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:The significance of this - 06Police Say No Shooting Occurred at LAX - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:41] <exec> 08└─February 13, 19961:00 PM PST SAN FRANCISCO--PointCast today launched a beta version of a free service that will keep Internet users constantly up-to-date with information from three major news organizations.
[07:06:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The significance of this - 06Police Say No Shooting Occurred at LAX - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:43] <exec> 08└─The proper response is to return fire.
[07:08:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pr0n - 06Iran Launches its Own National Intranet - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:34] <exec> 08└─North Korean porn FTW!
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[08:02:07] <exec> 08└─Vote Hillary! for 8 years of Feminist Utopia!
[08:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02The 400Mbps gorilla in the room - 06Netflix: VP9 Codec Can Beat H.265/HEVC at 1080p or Higher Resolutions - 410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:02:20] <exec> 08└─is: dedicated hardware support for mobile. That is the only advantage of h26_, and it is a boon for hardware makers, because you want features in new phones that older phones do not have. It did not matter if theora, dirac, or vp8 are freer and not so bad compared to h26_, if your smartphone does no...
[08:03:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:Fool's Errand - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:03:56] <exec> 08└─has this law been proven? I would be interested in reading such a proof. It is my understanding that it has only been postulated that e-votes can not be both anonymous and verifiable.
[08:05:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:solid plan - 06China Launches Own Aircraft Engine-Maker to Rival the West - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:05:01] <exec> 08└─Step 1: buy Russian military engines so you can make unreliable clones in your crappy factory Step 2: arm-twist GE (not hard) into building a factory for commercial airliner (super reliable) engines in China Step 3: combine the stolen knowledge to build reliable military engines
[08:05:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why not compromise - 06French Law Requires Search Engines to Pay Royalties to Index Images - 393 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:05:35] <exec> 08└─At least allow thumbnails below a certain resolution. That's a reasonable compromise. Not when the rationale is "we want Google to pay us, because our business model is not working in the digital world". Just like several European countries have laws that forbid Google News from indexing local news...
[08:07:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:We'll see what happens now - 06Two Trade Deals Struggling for Approval - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:24] <exec> 08└─No, that's what Trump U is for. Prerequisite for the current course is having signed up for the follow-on course. The instructor is helpfully able to make it happen at the beginning of the first class. The instructor also has the loan application forms that you will need. Of course, you can't come t...
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[09:02:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02free music is free - 06Amazon Said to Plan Music-Streaming Service for its Echo Speaker - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:02:01] <exec> 08└─At $4 the price is too high.
[09:02:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:The 400Mbps gorilla in the room - 06Netflix: VP9 Codec Can Beat H.265/HEVC at 1080p or Higher Resolutions - 2095 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:02:24] <exec> 08└─Two things: First, a lot of 'hardware' implementations of H.264 are nothing of the sort. They are very specialised DSPs, which implement various operations that form the core of a number of CODECs as single operations and then provide a firmware implementation of the specific ones. Often the differe...
[09:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The 400Mbps gorilla in the room - 06Netflix: VP9 Codec Can Beat H.265/HEVC at 1080p or Higher Resolutions - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:02:25] <exec> 08└─VP9’s predecessor, the VP8 codec, failed to gain traction because it arrived much later than h.264, and because chip makers weren’t too interested in utilizing hardware accelerators for it. This has changed somewhat with VP9, as more and more chips come out with accelerated decoding, and even en...
[09:02:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03zeigerpuppy [1298] (Score:2) 02Re:Why do they store the water in liquid form? - 06Public Cost of Fukushima Cleanup Exceeds $41B and is Climbing - 1936 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:02:47] <exec> 08└─This is not reactor coolant water, it's groundwater that is infiltrating the basements of the destroyed reactors and picking up particles from the melted out cores. Therefore, there are a number of radioactive isotopes which would not normally be in reactor water (as they'd usually be contained in t...
[09:07:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:We'll see what happens now - 06Two Trade Deals Struggling for Approval - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:07:56] <exec> 08└─At this point, I think that Trump might actually be the better choice. Both Clinton and Trump as effective presidents would be a disaster, but Trump is more likely to spend the next four years failing to accomplish anything because Congress hates him. If you have to pick between two evils, it's prob...
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[09:08:00] <exec> 08└─Farm subsidies are a tricky one, because they're bundled up in national security. A bunch of countries (the UK in particular) learned during the Second World War how important it is to be able to produce enough food that you can feed your own people. The farm subsidies don't exist to make the farms...
[09:08:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:We'll see what happens now - 06Two Trade Deals Struggling for Approval - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:08:06] <exec> 08└─Federal deficits went down, and we were actually running a budget surplus when Bill left office.
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[10:02:02] <exec> 08└─They would have to pay me to use a speaker tied to Amazon.
[10:02:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:free music is free - 06Amazon Said to Plan Music-Streaming Service for its Echo Speaker - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:02:03] <exec> 08└─>speaker *cool spy device, precursor to corporate AI slave-spies
[10:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Listen to this! - 06Amazon Said to Plan Music-Streaming Service for its Echo Speaker - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:02:06] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volksempf%C3%A4nger [wikipedia.org]
[10:02:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Compare to Coal - 06Public Cost of Fukushima Cleanup Exceeds $41B and is Climbing - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:02:47] <exec> 08└─This is not an either or scenario. Both is bad. Both needs to avoided.
[10:03:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Totally off topic. Car prices. - 06Solar Price Continues to Fall to New Lows - 3009 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:03:09] <exec> 08└─>>Its still the price of a new car. In round bald numbers its still 25K for a small rooftop. >No, it's not. Most installed systems are 4-5kW. That size of system costs $15k-$18k. Just as an act of petty pedantry I was going to point out that $15-18k is still enough to buy a new car. Then I decided t...
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[10:07:57] <exec> 08└─Seriously, HowTF did we manage to get to this ridiculous point in our electoral process? All the other elections in my adult life have been bad too, but none were nearly as ridiculously bad choices as this one.
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[11:02:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02fucking townies - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:02:03] <exec> 08└─Local buttfuckers don't matter, unless they stop paying their taxes, then feds shoot to kill.
[11:02:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Bama's Extra Big-Ass Legacy - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:02:04] <exec> 08└─Didn't Bama conserve something just last week? President Obama to Quadruple Size of Marine Protected Area Near Hawaii [soylentnews.org]
[11:02:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Listen to this! - 06Amazon Said to Plan Music-Streaming Service for its Echo Speaker - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:02:16] <exec> 08└─Wasn't Herr Eichost selling those, before he got fired and joined the Nazi Party instead?
[11:05:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:2) 02Re:Can US do this too please? - 06China Launches Own Aircraft Engine-Maker to Rival the West - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:05:07] <exec> 08└─Are you nuts? The US can't abandon all of its manufacturing fast enough. It's in a headlong race to koombayah. All flowers and smiles as it dismantles its own economic viability.
[11:05:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:BUT DOES IT WORK??? - 06Novel Chemical Sensor Six-Times Faster Than Alternatives - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:05:38] <exec> 08└─We must resort to technical detection means as all canine units have been transferred to Abu Ghraib for tortur^H^H^H^H^H^H enhanced interrogations.
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[12:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Bama's Extra Big-Ass Legacy - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:02:05] <exec> 08└─This is legacy crunch time. Now or never. A park in every other square mile. Coming soon: airborne national parks, off-limits to drones [usatoday.com].
[12:02:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03SixGunMojo [509] (Score:1) 02Promises - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:02:07] <exec> 08└─... Promises have been made to allow access to hunters, snowmobiles, and all terrain vehicles; ... AHAHAHAHAH So no access then. The only thing the the government would hate more wold be a Catholic mass held in the middle of the forest.
[12:02:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02fire - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:02:09] <exec> 08└─logging access is probably another long discussion
[12:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02explains crippled sdk - 06Amazon Said to Plan Music-Streaming Service for its Echo Speaker - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:02:20] <exec> 08└─So this is why Amazon won't let you use the speaker on the Echo. I haven't blown the dust off mine since I figured that out.
[12:02:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02And then - 06Amazon Said to Plan Music-Streaming Service for its Echo Speaker - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:02:22] <exec> 08└─Once the streaming service is in place, I bet they will stop selling music in downloadable MP3 format. You will pay for your streaming music and you will like it, Komrade. Count me out. I don't want to rely on a network connection to get access to my music. Despite what people in Silly Valley and so...
[12:03:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Milking it - 06Public Cost of Fukushima Cleanup Exceeds $41B and is Climbing - 534 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:03:09] <exec> 08└─One problem or risk that no one in the nuclear industry wants to deal with is milking it. Obviously not much has been done because its been pretty easy to extract the first forty billion. The purpose of the disaster site is now to transfer money to cleanup companies and the like, so actually fixing...
[12:03:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Entropy [4228] (Score:2) 02Solar prices fall... - 06Solar Price Continues to Fall to New Lows - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:03:30] <exec> 08└─Yet I never really see a price reduction when I count it. I hear about cheap (insert thing here) panels, then can't buy them because they don't sell to the public. I hear about a 12% price reduction yet it's just as unaffordable as ever...
[12:03:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Solar prices fall... - 06Solar Price Continues to Fall to New Lows - 595 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:03:31] <exec> 08└─Supply and demand, as long as people are willing to pay $20K for X KW, the price is not going to drop merely because the supply cost decreased. As a thought experiment, if higher ed tuition always goes up 10%/yr, whats the effect of Chinese mass produced whiteboard markers collapsing the price in th...
[12:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The significance of this - 06Police Say No Shooting Occurred at LAX - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:07:29] <exec> 08└─Quiet boy.
[12:09:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Problem - Internal combustion engines - 06NASA's Juno Spacecraft Completes First of Close Jupiter Flybys - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:09:00] <exec> 08└─The full-color disk of Jupiter in this image was separately photographed at a different time
[12:12:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Subjects are an anacrhonism - 06A Confession of Liberal Intolerance - 1640 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:12:19] <exec> 08└─The problem for many Christians they have a habit of being Salt when they should be Light and Light when they should be Salt. But it's often not so simple to know whether you are supposed to try to change stuff from within or stand out and make a difference. ;) Back to the topic of academia and into...
[12:12:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Subjects are an anacrhonism - 06A Confession of Liberal Intolerance - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:12:26] <exec> 08└─Bah. First, sociopathy is a personality disorder, not a philosophy. Second, while some elements of the latter could _hint_ at former, in this case it's pointing towards narcissism instead.
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[13:02:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02NCommander is a Millennial?! - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:02:04] <exec> 08└─And he's writing Malware?!! Call Homeland Security immediately.
[13:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:NCommander is a Millennial?! - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:02:06] <exec> 08└─Millennial?! He's a late 80s child. That's firmly in Gen-Y territory.
[13:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:NCommander is a Millennial?! - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:02:08] <exec> 08└─You know, I thought my age was relatively common knowledge on this site :P
[13:02:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02There was a certain elegance to DOS programming - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 739 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:02:10] <exec> 08└─It was primitive and there was zero protection, but everything was right there in front of you. Great for tinkerers. Game devs in particular loved DOS. There was a series of video modes which IBM came up with, which was later extended by the VESA manufacturers consortium, I think. EGA, VGA, XGA, and...
[13:02:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:There was a certain elegance to DOS programming - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 1106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:02:12] <exec> 08└─I didn't bring it up in this post, but video operations on DOS are an interesting beast since you have direct access to video memory. Depending on your hardware, you had the monochrome, CGA, EGA, and then VGA address space above conventional memory. Assuming you wanted more than what ANSI.SYS could...
[13:02:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03goody [2135] (Score:2) 02Re:Bama's Extra Big-Ass Legacy - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:23] <exec> 08└─That's fine with me (a park in every other square mile). The next Republican President that comes along will promise to log, sell, bulldoze, burn down, or pave over whatever the previous Democratic President preserved, just to piss off "libtards" and claim they're doing something.
[13:02:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03schad [2398] (Score:3, Informative) 02Logging is all there is - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 1708 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:02:27] <exec> 08└─I grew up in that exact area. Logging is what you do for work around there. Maybe you aren't out chopping down trees; maybe you're driving the trucks instead. Or maybe you work in the paper mill in some capacity. Or in the hospitals and grocery stores where the mill workers go. One way or another, y...
[13:03:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fnord666 [652] (Score:2) 02Higher Resolutions? - 06Netflix: VP9 Codec Can Beat H.265/HEVC at 1080p or Higher Resolutions - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:03:05] <exec> 08└─How did they draw the conclusion that VP9 can sometimes outperform HEVC at resolutions higher than 1080p if they didn't do any testing at those higher resolutions? With three codecs, two configurations, three resolutions (480p, 720p and 1080p),
[13:03:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Higher Resolutions? - 06Netflix: VP9 Codec Can Beat H.265/HEVC at 1080p or Higher Resolutions - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:06] <exec> 08└─from TFA vp9 does not beat h265 below 1080 (this one is inferred) vp9 sometimes beats h265 at 1080. vp9 is optimized for > 1080 So it is promising for > 1080 even without testing. I agree it is not a given.
[13:03:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lunix Nutcase [3913] (Score:2) 02Re:Higher Resolutions? - 06Netflix: VP9 Codec Can Beat H.265/HEVC at 1080p or Higher Resolutions - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:08] <exec> 08└─H.265 is also optimized for >1080p. Hence why it's the codec for 4k BluRay.
[13:03:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Still seems high - 06Solar Price Continues to Fall to New Lows - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:50] <exec> 08└─Its still the price of a new car.
[13:04:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score:2) 02His Greatest Accomplishment - 06Gene Wilder Dies Aged 83 - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:04:27] <exec> 08└─Few remember how he went on hiatus from performing to care for his dying wife, the late great Gilda Radner. Having buried my own first wife (cancer as well), I can say that there are few trials in life like tending to a loved one in their final months, weeks, and in that final moment.
[13:04:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02You're all wrong! - 06Gene Wilder Dies Aged 83 - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:04:29] <exec> 08└─His best movie was /Stir Crazy/. It's a complement that so we have different favourites, it shows that he had wide appeal, and was no one-role wonder.
[13:04:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Fool's Errand - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:04:58] <exec> 08└─Regardless of the voting system you could be coerced into revealing your vote.
[13:07:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:The significance of this - 06Police Say No Shooting Occurred at LAX - 571 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:07:51] <exec> 08└─Stop the mental gymnastics. Bottom line is an Airport was evacuated. These are rare events. It was a false alarm because of what sounded like gun shots. Airports in other parts of the world have been attacked and we are all well aware that they are high on the target list for possible terrorist atta...
[13:09:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:New Job Title - 06Iran Launches its Own National Intranet - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:09:42] <exec> 08└─> Not choosing to be the head* of the beheading technical advisory board. > *) pun intended Son, I am disappoint.
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[14:02:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2, Touché) 02Re:NCommander is a Millennial?! - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:02:17] <exec> 08└─Oh, thank goodness! I'm not a millennial [wikipedia.org] anymore! I still insist on eating kale, however.
[14:02:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02Re:NCommander is a Millennial?! - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:02:19] <exec> 08└─Those of us the wrong side of forty just like to pretend "young" means "about 35". Always a shock to find anyone under that knows *anything* :-)
[14:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:There was a certain elegance to DOS programming - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:02:23] <exec> 08└─> C would still need a flat memory model ((E)CS=(E)DS at a minimium) Are you sure? I think all it really needs is sizeof(void*) = sizeof(void(*)()), so that a void* cast can be reversibly performed. There's no requirement to ever be able to call data or dereference code, so who cares if the segments...
[14:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:There was a certain elegance to DOS programming - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 1591 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:02:26] <exec> 08└─Second followup: Microsoft really tried hard to kill DOS for gaming. DirectX was finally what made Windows 95 a viable platform but it wasn't the first attempt by a longshot. Before DirectX, you had WinG in Windows 3.1 which gave you roughly the equivalent of what DirectDraw does today. The big prob...
[14:02:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03crb3 [5919] (Score:1) 02A better C - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 1124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:02:28] <exec> 08└─Look into https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] It came out about then and gave MS C a real run for its money. The libraries were good and the documentation was actually helpful. I bought in at V1.5; V2.0 Professional added Turbo Assembler and Turbo Debugger; I learned a *lo...
[14:02:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:A better C - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 1570 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:02:30] <exec> 08└─I actually had tried to use OpenWatcom to get a period-like assembler for writing this but I think the x86_16 bitrotted out of it as when I did mov dx, offset str_hello, I got a garbage pointer (the assembler set dx to the top of the CS). Combined with the fact that WASM16 is essentially undocumente...
[14:02:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03crb3 [5919] (Score:1) 02Re:A better C - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 1352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:02:32] <exec> 08└─> writing COMs as a TSR is generally a "bad idea" because they load to 0x100 and unless you relocate it yourself, you can get clobbered really really easily. Umm, it's been awhile, but IIRC you load it as a normal *.com (64kcode, 64kdata max), it gets loaded into normal memory just like any other pr...
[14:02:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Get off my lawn! - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 862 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:02:34] <exec> 08└─8086? Luxury! Try the 8088, the original chip on the IBM PC, where they were bragging about being able to address 1 whole megabyte of memory using a weird system based on "segments" where the actual physical address was determined by both a "segment" and an "address" register, e.g. DS Undocumented D...
[14:02:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Get off my lawn! - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:02:37] <exec> 08└─Dang it, formatting! When talking about addressing, I was referring to DS << 4 + DX, which apparently we need HTML special chars to make work on Soylent.
[14:02:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02I can guess the next part - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 4048 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:02:39] <exec> 08└─I am going to assume it would work like this: - Hijack interrupt 09, the keyboard interrupt. - dump a copy of the keystrokes into a buffer. - when the buffer is full call some network code to transmit the buffer. - Most likely the network adapter is NE2000. The protocol is what, IPX? Or raw Ethernet...
[14:02:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Re:Promises - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:52] <exec> 08└─Maybe the US has some odd alternative definition of what a National Park is, but in pretty much every country I know of that has them the designation National Park means you can't hunt, log, or do much of anything else that affects the wilderness, in it. Isn't a National Park that allows logging and...
[14:02:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Promises - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 757 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:53] <exec> 08└─National Parks have restrictions on them to ensure that they're there for people to enjoy for years to come. The National Forests are often times logged and have much less in the way of rules about how they're used. Any American can camp anywhere they like in the National Forest and there are few re...
[14:02:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Logging is all there is - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 900 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:57] <exec> 08└─It's a trade. My father grew up in a similar area (lived in a tent until he was old enough to require some 'scoolin, and his family moved back into town). There was a mill that was pretty much all employment for the area, and of course the forest. Went back about 50 years later and the entire area w...
[14:02:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03pe1rxq [844] (Score:3, Touché) 02free market! - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:02:59] <exec> 08└─She made a fortune and used it to legally buy the land.... Isn't that the perfect example of 'the american way'?
[14:03:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Oakenshield [4900] (Score:1) 02Re:free market! - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:01] <exec> 08└─She made a fortune
[14:03:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:free market! - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:04] <exec> 08└─Do you have a reference for how she "forced out" her partner? The fact that she made money after buying shares from her former partner does not mean anything unless she held a gun to his head while making the offer.
[14:03:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Meepy [2099] (Score:1) 02Meh - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:03:06] <exec> 08└─So it looks like this is just adding a small protected area adjacent to a much larger state park. In fact, I might be wrong but it seems to be protecting the approach trail to Mt. Katahdin - the northern terminus of the Appalachian trail. Hard to get worked up over despite your b.s. "bigger than Aca...
[14:03:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Meh - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:09] <exec> 08└─It wouldn't surprise me if some or all of Baxter SP was subsumed into "Katahdin NP" some time down the road, because state governments always seem to be struggling with budget deficits. BTW the Appalachaian Trail enters Baxter from the opposite side.
[14:03:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03WizardFusion [498] (Score:2) 02Re:And then - 06Amazon Said to Plan Music-Streaming Service for its Echo Speaker - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:23] <exec> 08└─I agree, I have over 180gb of MP3s (not a lot compared to some people) some of which I can't get anymore. It either doesn't exist or is only available in very select places. That's the other issue here, some albums will only be available in some countries.
[14:03:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:ten years already - 06Hurricane Katrina and Post-Katrina Recovery Reduced Levels of Lead in New Orleans Soil - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:34] <exec> 08└─Now that you mention it, after watching that shitshow over the weekend here, a feminist utopia doesn't sound so bad. At least the mental disease the TERFs were suffering seems to have jumped on over to the alt-right.
[14:03:49] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03TheRaven [270] 02Re:The 400Mbps gorilla in the room - 06Netflix: VP9 Codec Can Beat H.265/HEVC at 1080p or Higher Resolutions - 2095 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:49] <exec> 08└─Two things: First, a lot of 'hardware' implementations of H.264 are nothing of the sort. They are very specialised DSPs, which implement various operations that form the core of a number of CODECs as single operations and then provide a firmware implementation of the specific ones. Often the differe...
[14:03:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Higher Resolutions? - 06Netflix: VP9 Codec Can Beat H.265/HEVC at 1080p or Higher Resolutions - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:55] <exec> 08└─I'm curious why the headline is presented as "one time out of ten, A is better than B". The more important thing to take away from this story is that "almost always, B is better than A", surely? Does google somehow need to whore for publicity now?
[14:03:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Higher Resolutions? - 06Netflix: VP9 Codec Can Beat H.265/HEVC at 1080p or Higher Resolutions - 322 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:57] <exec> 08└─If one time out of ten A is better than B maybe the advantage is that for that one time you can switch. For the nine times out of ten that B is better or equivalent then you can deliver your content in B. For the one time out of ten that A is better you can then deliver your content in A. You get th...
[14:03:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Higher Resolutions? - 06Netflix: VP9 Codec Can Beat H.265/HEVC at 1080p or Higher Resolutions - 597 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:59] <exec> 08└─I'm not really sure what the point of VP9 is if it requires greater than 1080p in order to be better than the alternatives that were optimized for resolutions that people actually use. The 4k format for monitors, movie theaters and production work, not for watching TV and movies at home. If you're s...
[14:04:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Totally off topic. Car prices. - 06Solar Price Continues to Fall to New Lows - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:04:41] <exec> 08└─The US wouldn't let European cars in for sale.
[14:04:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:Solar prices fall... - 06Solar Price Continues to Fall to New Lows - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:04:49] <exec> 08└─you obviously didn't even read the summary. the decline in installed cost observed since 2012 was largely caused by a decline in the cost of the inverters that convert the DC power produced by solar panels to AC power for the grid and other "soft" costs such as customer acquisition, system design, i...
[14:05:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score:2) 02Re:You're all wrong! - 06Gene Wilder Dies Aged 83 - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:05:23] <exec> 08└─Why does nobody ever remember Rhinoceros? I will watch it again in his memory.
[14:05:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score:2) 02Re:Fool's Errand - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:05:54] <exec> 08└─Once you've dropped the filled in ballot paper through the slot, you can say you voted whatever way they want. They can't check, and even if you wanted to, you couldn't prove which way you voted.
[14:06:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:They stole already public records - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:20] <exec> 08└─Well my phone's auto-correct sure seems to be a fan. Subliminal advertising confirmed.
[14:06:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:They stole already public records - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 998 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:24] <exec> 08└─Well if you want the info in bulk, I can see breaking in since that would be the easiest way to get it for an entire state without having to pay for it. The data would most likely be used for identity theft or phishing attempts. But yea, since the feds are being tight lipped about it who knows. The...
[14:11:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Environmentally friendly milk? - 06Edible Casein Packaging - 465 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:38] <exec> 08└─I wouldn't personally recommend assuming that supplementation is going to be sufficient to make up for the nutritional deficit in the diet. Even with supplements there's a pretty big difference between animal based sources and plant based ones. Some of them like flax seed oil aren't usable by portio...
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[15:02:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:3, Insightful) 02stop it - 06Fracking Chemicals Alter Hormone Levels in Mice - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:10] <exec> 08└─nothing about fracking is the least bit intelligent. it's 100% profit driven with no regard to the consequences of their actions. honestly, this is no better than clear cutting forests because they both destroy the ecosystem.
[15:02:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Wastewater Treatment not as sexy as Fracking - 06Fracking Chemicals Alter Hormone Levels in Mice - 460 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:11] <exec> 08└─As the resident fracking-contrarian-contrarian I will point out that there has never been a documented case of these chemicals actually contaminating aquifer water or surface water in association with the fracking itself. If you follow the links deep enough you find that this is associated with wast...
[15:02:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Strange paper - 06Fracking Chemicals Alter Hormone Levels in Mice - 3173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:13] <exec> 08└─Its a strange paper in that the list of pollution chemicals was taken from another paper (with permission) and I clicked thru and read supplemental table 1 and nothing as near as I can tell was discovered about those chemicals ... I mean, yeah, "we" already knew that drinking benzene is probably not...
[15:02:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:NCommander is a Millennial?! - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:24] <exec> 08└─Okay, fine, so he's technically a Millennial. I've already promised him a good kicking if I hear anything about feeling the Bern though, so everything is squared away.
[15:02:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:There was a certain elegance to DOS programming - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:31] <exec> 08└─You're probably right, at least most of the time, provided that the compiler handled the segments properly. A more significant issue was passing a stack address and as an argument to a function,and then dereferencing it, which would fail miserably if SS != DS. And they usually weren't for 16-mode DO...
[15:02:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:There was a certain elegance to DOS programming - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 1395 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:33] <exec> 08└─Segmented model breaks pointer arithmetic, and makes a lot of things much harder in C. The compiler has to do some epic magic to make it work. The canonical example is dealing with pointer comparison. Because multiple segment:offset pairs can point to the same logical place, you can't compare two po...
[15:02:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03crb3 [5919] (Score:1) 02Re:A better C - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:39] <exec> 08└─> TASM also has a remote capability Oops, no, that's TDB.
[15:02:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:A better C - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 803 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:41] <exec> 08└─Does it? I'm working from very old Microsoft documentation describing how TSRs work in practice, but the damn shit is hard to follow without a copy of the Intel System Reference at hand to explain the 16-bit magic. My understanding is when you call TSR and give it the paragraphs you want to save, it...
[15:02:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02A better C if it doesn't use more than 64k - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 1171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:43] <exec> 08└─Watch out, Borland C has some serious bugs. Stay under 64k of data memory, and you should be safe. Go over that, and you're in trouble. A minor bug in version 2.0 was that x>>=1 was translated into assembler incorrectly. The compilation would abort and the IDE gave the programmer a dump of assembler...
[15:02:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:A better C if it doesn't use more than 64k - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 992 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:46] <exec> 08└─I was planning on doing this pure assembly, no C. I'd like to think Turbo Assembler is relatively bug free; writing a x86_16 assembler isn't exactly rocket science. TSRs need to be written in assembly anyway because you're operating as ISRs; its a bad idea to try and write those in C unless you're v...
[15:02:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Get off my lawn! - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:50] <exec> 08└─Or use Extrans instead of Plain Old Text, yep.
[15:02:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Get off my lawn! - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 1039 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:52] <exec> 08└─That's essentially how UNDELETE worked. DOS used a special character in the FAT to mark a file as deleted. Thus if you walk the FAT, and things haven't been overriden, undeletion is possible. Format basically worked the same way which is why UNFORMAT was a thing. As for using the 8086, well, the 808...
[15:02:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Get off my lawn! - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:54] <exec> 08└─They were both i86 and could run the same code. The big difference was 8088 had only an 8 bit data bus multiplexed on the address bus. Since it could only transfer one byte per I/O read, it was half as slow as the 8086's 16 bit memory bus. This made the part cheaper to produce but a big bottleneck m...
[15:02:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimtheowl [5929] (Score:1) 02Re:Get off my lawn! - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:56] <exec> 08└─The 8088 is just a cheaper model of the 8086 (8 bit external data bus instead of 16 bit), not a different design. The 8086 precedes it. They did the same thing with later chips, such as the 80386/80386SX
[15:02:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:I can guess the next part - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 1097 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:59] <exec> 08└─Well I haven't decided where I want to hook just yet. The keyboard controller itself is IRQ 1, but the BIOS exposes it as 9 for sanity reasons in the IVR. If I hook IRQ 1, I can catch absolutely everything, but have to deal with scancodes and then feed it back into BIOS. That makes it harder to dete...
[15:03:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:I can guess the next part - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 494 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:03:01] <exec> 08└─You might enjoy taking another look at it. Prices for old dip stuff is pretty reasonable. You can buy parts in single quantities and casually work on breadboarding it out. Since you mentioned Arduino then you are probably still doing electronics? As a hobby or professionally? Ram example: http://www...
[15:04:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Folks I have a solution - 06Public Cost of Fukushima Cleanup Exceeds $41B and is Climbing - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:04:34] <exec> 08└─Build a new nuclear power plant at the site and circulate the contaminated water as the coolant water. Thank you.
[15:04:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:Totally off topic. Car prices. - 06Solar Price Continues to Fall to New Lows - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:04:53] <exec> 08└─You forgot that US prices do not include sales tax, which varies by state and city.
[15:06:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] (Score:2) 02Re:Enhance security - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 819 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:14] <exec> 08└─There is a much easier and simpler solution. Just publish 2 lists per district. First list is a list of everyone who voted, not including how they voted. Second list is each vote that was cast with a serial number assigned to it. Each voter gets a receipt with a serial number and a record of how the...
[15:06:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Enhance security - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:16] <exec> 08└─What happens if any of the three results don't match?
[15:09:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score:2) 02Re:We'll see what happens now - 06Two Trade Deals Struggling for Approval - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:28] <exec> 08└─That's pretty much a wash. If it's more expensive for him, it's more expensive for all his competitors too. The ones who would make out like bandits are any who have been stockpiling, either by holding actual stockpiles, or by building but not yet selling.
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[16:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:stop it - 06Fracking Chemicals Alter Hormone Levels in Mice - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:20] <exec> 08└─I agree with keeping it in the ground. Let's keep the worst of it in the ground, first, though. That means we need to ban Coal and Offshore Drilling FIRST, not last.
[16:02:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03tekk [5704] (Score:1) 02Re:I can guess the next part - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:02:59] <exec> 08└─My gut feeling is that you probably can't read twice, but what do you want to bet there's some way of pushing it back on. I'm not an expert in how this works but given how there's no memory protection couldn't you just proxy the DOS routine too? Change that code pointer to point to you and act like...
[16:03:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03tisI [5866] (Score:1) 02Re:Bama's Extra Big-Ass Legacy - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:12] <exec> 08└─Both benign actions done for the good of the country. Not all that bad considering the last losers we had: 1) started 2 wars and couldn't finish them. 2) Squandered away all national wealth then bankrupted the country. 3) became a convicted war criminal and found guilty of crimes against humanity. N...
[16:03:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score:1) 02Re:Promises - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 492 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:17] <exec> 08└─From my understanding of Theodore Roosevelt's goals he wanted to set aside land that could be regulated in a way where it could be enjoyed for all times. Himself being an avid outdoorsman and hunter the goal being that future generations would be able to hunt and use that same land. But in general I...
[16:03:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Promises - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 487 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:19] <exec> 08└─Obviously, Roxanne Quimby should have just held on to the land, since you apparently have no problem if it's her throwing hunters, snowmobiles, ATVs, or Catholic masses out. Note to self: avoid controversy and drawing public ire by using the purple paint method instead of pissing off right-wingers b...
[16:03:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03pe1rxq [844] 02free market! - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 112 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:03:24] <exec> 08└─She made a fortune and used it to legally buy the land.... Isn't that the perfect example of 'the american way'?
[16:03:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Oakenshield [4900] (Score:1) 02Re:free market! - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:28] <exec> 08└─Did you read the Wikipedia entry I cited? I thought not...
[16:03:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03tisI [5866] (Score:1) 02Re:free market! - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:30] <exec> 08└─... and now she gets to do with "her" land as she chooses, and she made it into a park, and gave it to the people. Isn't Merka great? It's good when it works.
[16:04:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:Higher Resolutions? - 06Netflix: VP9 Codec Can Beat H.265/HEVC at 1080p or Higher Resolutions - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:04:20] <exec> 08└─The point is that VP9 is royalty free.
[16:06:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Enhance security - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 629 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:26] <exec> 08└─It seems like basically the same proposal, with a couple of unfortunate differences: The record is not inherently immutable, but instead relies on the fact that people will compare notes and notice discrepencies if the record changes between requests.Voters would have to compare receipts en masse to...
[16:06:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] (Score:2) 02Re:Enhance security - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:27] <exec> 08└─Exactly how would a "trusted government organization" be able to verify people better than a general audit?
[16:09:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score:2) 02Re:We'll see what happens now - 06Two Trade Deals Struggling for Approval - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:44] <exec> 08└─Sounds like Scientology to me.
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[17:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Analyst firms remind me of this - 06TrendForce: 56% of PCs Sold Will Come With SSDs by 2018 - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:02:25] <exec> 08└─TrendForce, Gartner etc all remind me of this: http://skepdic.com [skepdic.com] Or like some guy said, everyone pees into the analyst firm's cup then pay to drink their own pee back.
[17:02:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02just as well - 06TrendForce: 56% of PCs Sold Will Come With SSDs by 2018 - 395 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:02:26] <exec> 08└─Modern games have gotten so huge that you need an SSD unless you like staring at a loading screen for 5+ minutes. I've been on the tail end of adoption, but I'll need to get one if Star Citizen ever releases. Fallout 4's loading was just barely on the inside of don't mind. Will still keep the 3TB dr...
[17:02:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02I'm surprised the number is so low - 06TrendForce: 56% of PCs Sold Will Come With SSDs by 2018 - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:02:28] <exec> 08└─The SSD is one of those upgrades that everyone really feels the difference in. And for laptops the SSD should be easier to locate thanks to the form factor (M.2 interface is smaller than the 2.5" drives). On top of all that the trend is for data to be in the cloud, so people can live quite happily w...
[17:02:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02Summary Correction: Fall BY 0.07 USD/GB - 06TrendForce: 56% of PCs Sold Will Come With SSDs by 2018 - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:02:31] <exec> 08└─By comparison, consumer SSDs were selling for 99 cents a gigabyte in 2012. From 2013 to 2015, the price dropped from 68 cents to 39 cents per gigabyte. This year, SSD prices declined to 24 cents per gigabyte and in 2017, they're expected to drop another 7 cents. That means a 1TB SSD, on average, wou...
[17:02:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:0, Troll) 02Re:stop it - 06Fracking Chemicals Alter Hormone Levels in Mice - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:41] <exec> 08└─nothing about fracking is the least bit intelligent.
[17:02:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Strange paper - 06Fracking Chemicals Alter Hormone Levels in Mice - 836 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:45] <exec> 08└─It's rare indeed when VLM and DeathMonkey agree on an issue. Perhaps it's a situation that at least merits consideration? For the record, I have 15 years professional experience in Environmental Compliance and Remediation. I spent 5 years of my life installing one of the first active (e.g. chemical)...
[17:03:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A better C - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 1781 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:03:14] <exec> 08└─I gave up in frustration and switched to NASM Having used both you are better off with NASM (which I think has a MASM compat mode). I think I have the docs for the watcom one kicking around here somewhere in book form (I bought it ages ago). If I remember right the 32bit asm compiler pretty much spi...
[17:03:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:I can guess the next part - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 1833 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:03:25] <exec> 08└─I'm working with this type of stuff at work. I have really taken a liking to industrial automation as I have been working with a lot of CNC stuff and PLC/PAC's. In fact, I'm rebuilding a whole CNC Laser system we got from a customer who was going to toss the whole system into the dumpster. Seriously...
[17:03:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:2) 02A20 - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 414 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:03:26] <exec> 08└─Everything about the A20 line is hilarious: The 80286 had a bug where it failed to force the A20 line to zero in real mode. Due to this bug, the combination F800:8000 would no longer point to the physical address 0x00000000 but the correct address 0x00100000. As a result, some DOS programs would no...
[17:03:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:A20 - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 905 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:03:29] <exec> 08└─A20 is just a pile of fail in so many ways. If A20 had a standardized way of managing it it (the KB controller method got replaced), it would be annoying but not horrid. Instead different PCs have different ways of setting A20. Some implement a BIOS call, others have a magic port I/O, and others pro...
[17:03:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimtheowl [5929] (Score:1) 02Subscriptions - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:03:31] <exec> 08└─" I decided to write a series of articles for SN in an attempt to drive more subscriptions and readers to the site" This article did it for me; Looking forward to part 2.
[17:03:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:fire - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 1111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:50] <exec> 08└─Logging has little to do with wildfire prevention. I'm not sure where people get that idea, but it's laughably wrong. The logs that timber companies are interested in are fairly large and healthy and when they're gone, you get this new growth that's all more or less the same height that burns much m...
[17:03:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Logging is all there is - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:53] <exec> 08└─Logging is what you do for work around there.
[17:03:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Logging is all there is - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 549 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:55] <exec> 08└─We had similar issues to the AC out here on the West Coast with our fisheries becoming depleted and then we sucked it up. We cut the catch limits down significantly and bought boats. That was several decades ago, but in the mean time most of our fisheries are back and will be here for generations to...
[17:03:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:2) 02Re:Logging is all there is - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:57] <exec> 08└─> Logging is what you do for work around there. Now, with a bit of luck, logging or hospitality will be what you can do for work around there.
[17:04:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:free market! - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 508 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:04:03] <exec> 08└─I checked the citation from Wikipedia and it didn't support the statement that she threatened him in 1993 or that he was coerced in the 1999 deal (I added a "citation needed" tag). Reference 14 did mention that she agreed to give him 4 million dollars in 2003 after selling an 80% stake in the compan...
[17:04:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Selfish morons, that's what they are - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:04:09] <exec> 08└─"National Monuments are great... we love them... Just don't put them in my back yard..." Selfish morons...!
[17:04:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Selfish morons, that's what they are - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 505 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:04:11] <exec> 08└─I think that's rather screwed up. Around here folks are fighting to get our lands recognized so that they don't get destroyed by the oil and timber industries. And unfortunately, if Clinton is elected, she's pretty much going to rape the land wherever possible for oil companies. It astonishes me tha...
[17:05:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:Totally off topic. Car prices. - 06Solar Price Continues to Fall to New Lows - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:05:46] <exec> 08└─or is it simply that USians can't conceive of buying a car without a big engine, aircon and an automatic gearbox?
[17:05:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02It's The Storage, Stupid - 06Solar Price Continues to Fall to New Lows - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:05:54] <exec> 08└─Articles like this completely ignore the cost of storing electricity, without which solar is only marginally useful. Add in those ongoing costs and solar remains very uncompetitive.
[17:07:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03https [5248] (Score:2) 02Re:Fool's Errand - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:08] <exec> 08└─You really, really, really should look at how elections are conducted in nations other than the USA. I suspect that a major part of the problem is the sheer number of things that must be voted for simultaneously on Election Day - it's unnecessarily complex. You even have a particular day called Elec...
[17:07:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Enhance security - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:12] <exec> 08└─Exactly how would a "trusted government organization" be able to verify people better than a general audit?
[17:07:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02not helpful to detect an error - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:14] <exec> 08└─First of all, in a huge election, there will be error. Second of all, what can legally be done if an error is detected? Running the election again is not an option. If you can prove an error, all you've done is undermine the legitimacy of the election. You can't change the result. This could tear th...
[17:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:The significance of this - 06Police Say No Shooting Occurred at LAX - 495 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:52] <exec> 08└─I don't know what is so hard to understand. Our society is far more fear driven than it was just a couple decades ago, and it is to our detriment. We (as a whole) jump at shadows now, all the time. The very idea of an airport being evacuated over a loud unidentified noise would have been laughable n...
[17:11:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:We'll see what happens now - 06Two Trade Deals Struggling for Approval - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:09] <exec> 08└─That is one of the ideas I specifically mentioned in my post. I'm a fan of what's commonly known as the lead-crime hypothesis, but definitive proof is very difficult for anything like this.
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[18:02:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03julian [6003] (Score:2) 02Re:just as well - 06TrendForce: 56% of PCs Sold Will Come With SSDs by 2018 - 510 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:18] <exec> 08└─The next time I touch my last remaining Windows machine will be to upgrade it for Battlefield 1, but that won't be until the game is at least a year old. EA takes that much time to work out the bugs, release the content they held back at release as extra "expansion packs" for $30 each, and finally b...
[18:02:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm surprised the number is so low - 06TrendForce: 56% of PCs Sold Will Come With SSDs by 2018 - 452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:21] <exec> 08└─> On top of all that the trend is for data to be in the cloud Try to push 1TB of data into the cloud from most US locations, and suddenly redundant spinning rust doesn't sounds too bad. Of course, most humans do need to realize that they probably don't need to store that TB of data, because they won...
[18:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03chewbacon [1032] (Score:2) 02Worth the price - 06TrendForce: 56% of PCs Sold Will Come With SSDs by 2018 - 499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:24] <exec> 08└─Bought a hybrid for my laptop and noticed a great balance of performance vs price. So I dumped a little more cash for just a SSD for my desktop and... wow. My desktop is about 5 years old, but now performs better than when it was new. Saved myself a new build. If you're using Windows, don't waste yo...
[18:02:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:stop it - 06Fracking Chemicals Alter Hormone Levels in Mice - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:34] <exec> 08└─There is actually a large bacteria ecosystem throughout the Earth's crust, and there could be widespread ramifications. We really know so little about dynamics behind the entire Earth's ecosystems, and green lighting things like fracking amounts to ecological gambling. Hopefully no big issues come o...
[18:02:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Strange paper - 06Fracking Chemicals Alter Hormone Levels in Mice - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:40] <exec> 08└─How will fracking reduce pollution and greenhouse gases in the near term?
[18:02:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Strange paper - 06Fracking Chemicals Alter Hormone Levels in Mice - 822 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:42] <exec> 08└─I guess the primary difference that people perceive is that fracking is distributed waste dumping, whereas traditional waste dumping had a fence around it in the ugly part of town. It's new, it's chemical, it's done by traditionally unpleasant people who are not transparent about the procedures and...
[18:03:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:There was a certain elegance to DOS programming - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:03:02] <exec> 08└─Segmented model breaks pointer arithmetic
[18:03:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:There was a certain elegance to DOS programming - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:03:04] <exec> 08└─Actually the C standard doesn't guarantee casting between data pointers and function pointers. And DOS and the various memory models (SMALL, LARGE, HUGE) are probably the reason.
[18:03:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:A better C - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 629 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:03:14] <exec> 08└─Well, I wanted to use free tools if at all possible so others can take the code and play with it. 16-bit MASM hasn't been part of Visual C++ in decades, and I believe it only persists in the Windows DDK. I'm using FreeDOS to test my stuff in VirtualBox with FTPing the files across (annoying but work...
[18:03:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Subscriptions - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:03:30] <exec> 08└─Thanks! I'll give you a shoutout when Part II (which hopefully will be this weekend) goes up. The next part is going to go into the basics of terminate and stay resident programs, and how to implement an interrupt hook. After that, we'll hook the keyboard, and store it in a buffer until we send it o...
[18:03:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Eristone [4775] (Score:1) 02All Fun Until Memory Managers Start Running - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 438 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:03:31] <exec> 08└─The biggest problem you are going to run into is that it is hard to hide malware in the environment you are running. You'd actually have to hijack something like command.com or one of the TSRs to avoid detection just from simple things like "Hmmmm.. why is available memory 1K low?" (In the old QEMM...
[18:03:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:All Fun Until Memory Managers Start Running - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 1187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:03:33] <exec> 08└─Well, with real malware, I'd simply include it as functionality of an existing product. Here's a nifty product that lets you copy and paste across DOS apps so the memory drop would be expected. Assuming more modern circa 1992, one good candidate to hide in is the DOS monochromatic video buffer at B0...
[18:03:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03goodie [1877] (Score:2) 02ouch - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:03:35] <exec> 08└─For example, in 1988 (the year I was born)
[18:03:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03iWantToKeepAnon [686] (Score:2) 02TSR-es, ahhhh yes - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 964 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:03:37] <exec> 08└─I wrote several, they all followed TesSeRact "API" (https://web.archive.org/web/20060903084827/http://hdebruijn.soo.dto.tudelft.nl/newpage/interupt/out-4800.htm#4712). You could discover what was running, request information (interrupts used and such), and even request unlink/unload. Very "mature" a...
[18:03:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03iWantToKeepAnon [686] (Score:2) 02Re:TSR-es, ahhhh yes - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 521 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:03:40] <exec> 08└─Oh, forgot; one of the things you could query was the hotkey being used so you knew if you could use it without interfering with other TSR-es. Here's a note from the archived page: Notes: Borland's THELP.COM popup help system for Turbo Pascal and Turbo C (versions 1.x and 2.x only) fully supports...
[18:03:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Francis [5544] 02Re:fire - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 1111 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:03:59] <exec> 08└─Logging has little to do with wildfire prevention. I'm not sure where people get that idea, but it's laughably wrong. The logs that timber companies are interested in are fairly large and healthy and when they're gone, you get this new growth that's all more or less the same height that burns much m...
[18:04:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score:2) 02Re:fire - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:00] <exec> 08└─You went back for seconds when the timber companies served the Kool-Aid didn't you?
[18:04:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:fire - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:02] <exec> 08└─VLM's been hopelessly lost to the kool-aid ever since he started mentioning Moldbug. It's an interesting phenomenon, and I'm being a bit unfair by picking on VLM and Moldbug. The status quo has become progressive, so now it's hip and rebellious and edgy to embrace the wackiness that is the alt-right...
[18:04:03] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03schad [2398] 02Logging is all there is - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 1708 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:04:04] <exec> 08└─I grew up in that exact area. Logging is what you do for work around there. Maybe you aren't out chopping down trees; maybe you're driving the trucks instead. Or maybe you work in the paper mill in some capacity. Or in the hospitals and grocery stores where the mill workers go. One way or another, y...
[18:04:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Logging is all there is - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 981 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:08] <exec> 08└─"this whole "I do what I want" leads us to a dysfunctional society" BS authoritarian propaganda. the old "if it weren't for some leech pos we'd just kill each other" line. History begs to differ. Governments are almost always the source of violence even when it seems to be a fight between "crazy" in...
[18:04:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02text ads - 06Amazon Said to Plan Music-Streaming Service for its Echo Speaker - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:04:35] <exec> 08└─AC said to not give a flying rat's ass...
[18:05:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The 400Mbps gorilla in the room - 06Netflix: VP9 Codec Can Beat H.265/HEVC at 1080p or Higher Resolutions - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:05:02] <exec> 08└─Sigh. Today's phones and more than enough power to decode both VP9 and H.265.
[18:05:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Higher Resolutions? - 06Netflix: VP9 Codec Can Beat H.265/HEVC at 1080p or Higher Resolutions - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:05:11] <exec> 08└─Since we have already done an xkcd: https://xkcd.com [xkcd.com]
[18:06:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Alzheimer's - 06Gene Wilder Dies Aged 83 - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:06:18] <exec> 08└─No, not really. Not all remakes all good, and the original was already great. The new music just doesn't even sound the same, or even as good. I'll pass.
[18:06:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Enhance security - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:06:58] <exec> 08└─So what happens if my boss asks me to bring my heavy cardstock to work so she can make sure I vote for the candidates she wants? Assume that my boss is smart enough to not leave any paper trail so if I report her to the election commission it's her word against mine. How do I not loss my job nor my...
[18:07:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] (Score:2) 02Re:Enhance security - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:24] <exec> 08└─I merely thought that "trusted government organization" is such an absurd term that it deserved to be in quotes.
[18:07:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:not helpful to detect an error - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:27] <exec> 08└─Running the election again is not an option.
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[19:02:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm surprised the number is so low - 06TrendForce: 56% of PCs Sold Will Come With SSDs by 2018 - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:28] <exec> 08└─64GB ought to be enough for anyone
[19:02:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Surprised it isn't higher - 06TrendForce: 56% of PCs Sold Will Come With SSDs by 2018 - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:02:32] <exec> 08└─Spinning drives only seem useful for archiving now. SSD is the way to go for OS, games, and day to day stuff. 250 GB for under 100$ is pretty good, imo. You can even get them as PCI-e cards now and reduce your cabling nightmare. There's probably some interesting tiny box builds you could do by remov...
[19:02:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Gravis [4596] 02stop it - 06Fracking Chemicals Alter Hormone Levels in Mice - 225 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:02:40] <exec> 08└─nothing about fracking is the least bit intelligent. it's 100% profit driven with no regard to the consequences of their actions. honestly, this is no better than clear cutting forests because they both destroy the ecosystem.
[19:02:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:stop it - 06Fracking Chemicals Alter Hormone Levels in Mice - 648 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:44] <exec> 08└─You can say that about literally everything. Meanwhile, we've been fracking for 60 years. In this time how many massive ecological disasters can you recall that are related to coal and oil? Deepwater Horizon alone has done more harm to the environment than 60 years of fracking. Every single year bur...
[19:02:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:stop it - 06Fracking Chemicals Alter Hormone Levels in Mice - 978 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:48] <exec> 08└─As somebody that has actually been on fracs before, you're completely and utterly full of shit you odious little apologist troll. 1) It's for oil AND natural gas. 2) When done correctly, it's in a vertical well many thousands of feet below the water table. 3) It IS a very clever piece of engineering...
[19:02:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Wastewater Treatment not as sexy as Fracking - 06Fracking Chemicals Alter Hormone Levels in Mice - 728 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:51] <exec> 08└─What about those folks with flammable drinking water? And what about those earthquakes that just happened to start at the same time that the fracking did? But, even if we grant the notion that the fracking itself isn't dangerous, what about all those gases that are being put into the atmosphere when...
[19:02:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Strange paper - 06Fracking Chemicals Alter Hormone Levels in Mice - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:56] <exec> 08└─How will fracking reduce pollution and greenhouse gases in the near term?   It already has!     IEA: Thanks to Natural Gas, U.S. Energy-Related Carbon Emissions Fell 2 Percent in 2015 [energyindepth.org]  
[19:03:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:NCommander is a Millennial?! - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:03:13] <exec> 08└─It's weird. Somewhere in my mid 20s, my attitude shifted away from "don't trust anyone over 30" to "oh god, please don't fucking associate me with these jackass smug fucking college students." Now, at the age of 32, it's solidified on "don't trust anyone under 35." Seems to be the magic number for w...
[19:03:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:TSR-es, ahhhh yes - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:03:52] <exec> 08└─TSRs let you do ungodly things if you knew what you were doing. My dad used to use Reference Manager for DOS which would hook into WordPerfect by hitting SysRq and pop up a UI to put references right in the application. Refman for Windows never worked anywhere as well. WordPerfect for DOS was probab...
[19:04:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:fire - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 406 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:04:14] <exec> 08└─Every forest burns every now and then (not very far if it's tropical). Animals run and fly away, and then come back when things grow back. It's our attempts to "maintain" the forest and "preserve the surrounding (...) property" which amplify the problem. Got natural forest? It's gonna burn unless yo...
[19:04:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:free market! - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:04:28] <exec> 08└─No, becasue that land which was private and out of reach is not really ours if we can't run our gas-powered vehicles and chainsaws through it!
[19:05:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Baton Rouge - 06Hurricane Katrina and Post-Katrina Recovery Reduced Levels of Lead in New Orleans Soil - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:00] <exec> 08└─I've been trying to set up the Secret Government Weather Control Machine for a Cat-4 hurricane on Flint, MI. Turns out it mandates an upgrade and a subscription to Prime... Can't catch a break even to help people.
[19:05:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02There we have it. - 06Hurricane Katrina and Post-Katrina Recovery Reduced Levels of Lead in New Orleans Soil - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:05:04] <exec> 08└─Climate change = more hurricanes = reduced poison. So climate change is good! :-)
[19:06:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Good day, sir. - 06Gene Wilder Dies Aged 83 - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:06:42] <exec> 08└─This more than anything cracked me up. I can easily see him saying something like that. He was a master of biting sarcasm. R.I.P Gene and thanks for the laughs.
[19:07:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Enhance security - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:15] <exec> 08└─So what if your boss requires you to snap a photo of your finished ballot in the voting booth? We can play that what if game forever, but after seeing long lines of people being disenfranchised of their vote this season, I have a lot respect for WA's system.
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[20:02:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Really? - 06Apple is Sued Over iPhone 6 "Touch Disease" - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:02:11] <exec> 08└─How many people do actually have a 6 still under warranty? The thing was designed two years ago and replaced last year. If it didn't die during the warranty, you don't have ground to complain or sue. I'm really starting to wonder about that new yearly tradition of "sue Apple in late August, just bef...
[20:02:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02nano-schmano... - 06A Novel Method of Making High-Quality Vertical Nanowires - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:02:19] <exec> 08└─"... a novel method of making high quality vertical nanowires ..." um, why not take horizontal nanowires and rotate them 90 degrees ? guess that isn't novel...
[20:02:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm surprised the number is so low - 06TrendForce: 56% of PCs Sold Will Come With SSDs by 2018 - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:33] <exec> 08└─That's only a compounded 39% yearly increase from the original 35 years ago. Would you have preferred "640G for anyone", which would be a 48% average annual growth?
[20:02:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm surprised the number is so low - 06TrendForce: 56% of PCs Sold Will Come With SSDs by 2018 - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:34] <exec> 08└─I've seen 64\128GB RAM systems without an SSD. To quote the owner: That's what tmpfs is for.
[20:02:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03SrLnclt [1473] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm surprised the number is so low - 06TrendForce: 56% of PCs Sold Will Come With SSDs by 2018 - 712 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:36] <exec> 08└─I concur... I'm surprised this didn't pass the 50% market share for new sales a while back. I wouldn't buy or recommend a machine for anyone without a SSD (for home or at work), and have felt that way for the last 18 months or so. Someone was just asking me about a new home laptop (typical novice us...
[20:02:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:stop it - 06Fracking Chemicals Alter Hormone Levels in Mice - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:53] <exec> 08└─Wow, for something you're knowledgeable about, that was a lot of bullshit. If you want to bring in facts, then please, do so. Let's review: 1) It's for oil AND natural gas.
[20:05:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Why do they store the water in liquid form? - 06Public Cost of Fukushima Cleanup Exceeds $41B and is Climbing - 601 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:05:51] <exec> 08└─> I am dumbfounded that it has not already been done for the Fukushima water. Hoover Dam is about 2.5 million cubic metres. Fukushima has already decontaminated over one sixth of that volume of water, and they still have a giant problem dealing with the rest, stored in thousands of enormous tanks. I...
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[21:02:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Ask if they have a Prime Directive? - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:02:00] <exec> 08└─Ask the aliens if they would be so kind as to invite us to visit? By the time we receive an answer, the Norks will have nuked the Muricans, the Muricans will have nuked the Ruskies, and there won't be anyone left on Earth anyway.
[21:02:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:3, Informative) 02Nothing to see - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:02:02] <exec> 08└─Nothing to see here... move along.. Our SETI says [berkeley.edu]: news reports of a "SETI signal" detected from the star HD 164595 [...] there's really nothing about this "signal" that would distinguish it from a natural radio transient [...] All in all, it's relatively uninteresting from a SETI sta...
[21:02:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:2) 02I smell hype - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 866 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:02:04] <exec> 08└─TFA goes off into wild speculation about Dyson spheres without noting that we'd see evidence of a Dyson Sphere long before we we could detect the close-orbit gas giant TFA mentions. They then start suggesting that aliens with a global government might have directed the transmission straight at us......
[21:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I smell hype - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:06] <exec> 08└─but something tells me this is going to produce papers
[21:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03RandomFactor [3682] (Score:1) 02Re:I smell hype - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:08] <exec> 08└─It's doubtful the Earth has ever generated any transmission with enough power for a detectable signal-to-noise ratio at that distance, and it's certain that, if we have, it's only been in the past half century.
[21:02:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03korger [4465] (Score:2) 02Hold your horses - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 487 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:02:10] <exec> 08└─We have detected lots of signals from the Universe since radio telescopes were introduced, and so far all of those signals proved to be of natural origin. There's nothing about this case that would indicate otherwise. Most likely the best we can hope from further research into this signal is the dis...
[21:02:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02My conditions for investigation - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:02:12] <exec> 08└─We should really only look into alien civilizations if we receive evidence that they have green-skinned women that look in every other respect identical to human women.
[21:02:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02OMG Earth is doomed - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:02:15] <exec> 08└─Might as well vote for Trump
[21:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Really? - 06Apple is Sued Over iPhone 6 "Touch Disease" - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:23] <exec> 08└─If it didn't die during the warranty, you don't have ground to complain or sue.
[21:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02stop touching it - 06Apple is Sued Over iPhone 6 "Touch Disease" - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:02:26] <exec> 08└─you'll go blind
[21:02:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:nano-schmano... - 06A Novel Method of Making High-Quality Vertical Nanowires - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:35] <exec> 08└─I can't tell whether you're joking. If not, have a glance at the electron micrographs in the article.
[21:03:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fuck fracking - 06Fracking Chemicals Alter Hormone Levels in Mice - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:03:15] <exec> 08└─#NoDAPL
[21:03:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:A better C - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:03:46] <exec> 08└─A key to TSRs is to write PIC code. That is, code that uses only relative accesses so that it runs OK at any arbitrary address. Then you can just grab a bit of RAM and copy it in. If you haven't seen it, get Ralf Brown's Interrupt List [cmu.edu]. It has a lot more than a list of interrupts.
[21:03:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A better C - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 2431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:03:51] <exec> 08└─https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=12654 [microsoft.com] Oh I agree with you. Although, MASM can be handy to have around for those old asm scripts that still crawling around on the net. Not sure it was ever included with the VC kit (maybe the DDK like you said). I always had to...
[21:03:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Get off my lawn! - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:03:58] <exec> 08└─The AT had an 80286. It also had a few odd workarounds to increase compatibility with the 8088 like an AND gate on the A20 address line so a few programs that depended on addresses wrapping at the 1MB mark would work. Extended memory worked by enabling the A20 line and using dirty segment tricks to...
[21:04:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bama's Extra Big-Ass Legacy - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:04:27] <exec> 08└─"Give your Sims a chance to see your city from the air."
[21:04:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Logging is all there is - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:04:44] <exec> 08└─So no more subsidizing of logging and coal digging then, eh...? I think we're in agreement?
[21:04:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Meh - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:04:56] <exec> 08└─Baxter State Park is 2.3 times the size of this newly protected land.
[21:05:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02crowd-sourced streaming - 06Amazon Said to Plan Music-Streaming Service for its Echo Speaker - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:05:15] <exec> 08└─I'd pay $5 a month to listen to a stream from Echo microphones.
[21:06:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Why do they store the water in liquid form? - 06Public Cost of Fukushima Cleanup Exceeds $41B and is Climbing - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:18] <exec> 08└─This is not reactor coolant water, it's groundwater that is infiltrating the basements of the destroyed reactors [...]
[21:06:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03drussell [2678] (Score:2) 02For the technically minded here.... - 06Public Cost of Fukushima Cleanup Exceeds $41B and is Climbing - 479 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:06:23] <exec> 08└─Pretty much everything you ever wanted to know about the Fukushima diaster is detailed along this lengthy thread: https://www.physicsforums.com [physicsforums.com] continued here, due to thread length: https://www.physicsforums.com
[21:07:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Enhance security - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:46] <exec> 08└─I take the picture, then tear it so the scan tron machine will not accept it, get another, fill it in the way I want, and then work with the election commission so they record her asking for the picture and now we have proof she tried to coerce my vote.
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[22:02:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Link - 06New Zealand Judge to Allow Kim Dotcom to Livestream Extradition Appeal - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:02:04] <exec> 08└─This seems to be the placeholder for the stream which starts tomorrow: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[22:02:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:Nothing to see - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:14] <exec> 08└─Sure, that's what they want you to think!
[22:02:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I smell hype - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 1480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:19] <exec> 08└─It's feasible but we would have already noticed at least two or three such signals in the night sky. It just seems like such an utterly improbable coincidence that an alien civilization would decide one day (only) 95 years ago to start sending a signal our way. If there are such directed transmissio...
[22:02:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Re:Hold your horses - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:22] <exec> 08└─There is the Wow! signal, which has no explanation: https://en.wikipedia.org!_signal [wikipedia.org]
[22:02:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:My conditions for investigation - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:25] <exec> 08└─I'm happy with ones with tails [wikia.com] -- especially twins.
[22:02:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:My conditions for investigation - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:27] <exec> 08└─Blue would also be acceptable. Damned racist.
[22:02:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:OMG Earth is doomed - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:30] <exec> 08└─Trump will build an even bigger wall to keep the extraterrestrial aliens out. But if Cliton wins, the ET's will get a green card, social security, welfare, drivers licence, college education, housing, and land grabs, all free.
[22:02:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrNemesis [1582] (Score:2) 02From the department of redundancy dept.? - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:02:32] <exec> 08└─Aren't all signals from deep space going to be extraterrestrial, pretty much by definition...? Hell, there are a fair few man-made signals kicking around now that are extra-terrestrial...
[22:02:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02YAP - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:02:35] <exec> 08└─YAP: Yet Another Psyop to keep space relevant, and keep the hoax of 'globe Earth', 'outer space', 'exoplanets' and 'aliens' going. Those people will hopelessly keep kicking this can along the road for as much as possible. An international team of scientists
[22:02:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:YAP - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:37] <exec> 08└─Sirius is a spotlight attached to the dome, and at the end of the ocean is a wall...
[22:02:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03snufu [5855] (Score:2) 02Message translated: - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:02:39] <exec> 08└─B ther in 96 yurs. kthxbye
[22:02:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Really? - 06Apple is Sued Over iPhone 6 "Touch Disease" - 600 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:49] <exec> 08└─> How DARE you ask that we make stuff that is build properly and lasts! It lasted just long enough to get you to the next version, which you are required to be grateful for. Your significant other may not object to your need for a shinier replacement. Given your experience, would you like to buy the...
[22:02:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Really? - 06Apple is Sued Over iPhone 6 "Touch Disease" - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:51] <exec> 08└─If it didn't die during the warranty, you don't have ground to complain or sue.
[22:02:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Really? - 06Apple is Sued Over iPhone 6 "Touch Disease" - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:53] <exec> 08└─You can sue for defective products, which is basically a form of negligence under torts law. There are also various consumer protection laws that are a bit more specific.
[22:02:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormreaver [5101] (Score:2) 02Going to Get Worse - 06Apple is Sued Over iPhone 6 "Touch Disease" - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:02:57] <exec> 08└─This is going to get worse, as Apple makes the phones thinner.
[22:03:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm surprised the number is so low - 06TrendForce: 56% of PCs Sold Will Come With SSDs by 2018 - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:03:20] <exec> 08└─On top of all that the trend is for data to be in the cloud
[22:04:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Post-Nihilist [5672] (Score:2) 02Re:There was a certain elegance to DOS programming - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:04:10] <exec> 08└─Someone who remember about the unreal mode, I am quite pleasantly surprised. It was a nice undocumented feature that made external DPMI like DOS/4G mostly useless. However, outside the demo scene, I never saw a distributed application that ran in unreal mode...
[22:04:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Post-Nihilist [5672] (Score:2) 02Re:A better C - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:04:22] <exec> 08└─... I would bet there is a plugin for eclipse...
[22:04:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Get off my lawn! - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 692 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:04:28] <exec> 08└─I must have been dead last night when I wrote story and comments. For some reason I thought the AT had a max of 1 MiB, but wikipedia says it had a max of 16 MiB. I think somewhere between my notes and backslash (admin console) AT and XT got crossed. It's hard to tell based on Google what a typical l...
[22:04:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Get off my lawn! - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:04:31] <exec> 08└─IIRC Win 3.1 was a problem on the AT due to the crippled (compared to 386) protected mode. It was also dog slow in protected mode (and so the real mode segment trick to access extended memory). In practice, protected mode was avoided as much as possible until the '386 got it right, including the abi...
[22:05:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Logging is all there is - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 954 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:05:18] <exec> 08└─They are not going to save the logging jobs. Logging jobs are disappearing and it has nothing to do with environmentalists. Mostly it is a result of automation. The logging camps employing a couple hundred workers in the early 1900's were replaced by a few guys with chainsaws, cranes and trucks. Tho...
[22:05:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03snufu [5855] (Score:2) 02Re:free market! - 06Park Service Opens National Monument in Central Maine, Over Local Opposition - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:05:27] <exec> 08└─Exactly. It was her land. Even if she kept it, she was never going to allow logging and hunting on her private property. So why are loggers and hunters complaining?
[22:05:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And then - 06Amazon Said to Plan Music-Streaming Service for its Echo Speaker - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:05:48] <exec> 08└─Once the streaming service is in place, I bet they will stop selling music in downloadable MP3 format. You will pay for your streaming music and you will like it, Komrade.
[22:06:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:There we have it. - 06Hurricane Katrina and Post-Katrina Recovery Reduced Levels of Lead in New Orleans Soil - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:06:07] <exec> 08└─Dispersed, not reduced.
[22:07:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Entropy [4228] (Score:2) 02Re:Solar prices fall... - 06Solar Price Continues to Fall to New Lows - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:24] <exec> 08└─I'm basing it on cost quotes from vendors with equipment installed. These quotes include (micro)inverter costs. The breakeven period is usually about 15 years or so, which is pretty abysmal...then they go and tell me how "green" it all is, and other such crap. I don't care how green it is when almos...
[22:07:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's The Storage, Stupid - 06Solar Price Continues to Fall to New Lows - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:26] <exec> 08└─Without storage, solar electricity only comes on during the day, and who uses electricity during the day?
[22:08:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03dingus [5224] (Score:2) 02Re:Enhance security - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:08:54] <exec> 08└─Presumably they trust the slip.
[22:10:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Stream of rambling... - 06French Law Requires Search Engines to Pay Royalties to Index Images - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:31] <exec> 08└─There's already malware that does similar to fake clicking on advertisements...
[22:10:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02One step removed - 06French Law Requires Search Engines to Pay Royalties to Index Images - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:10:32] <exec> 08└─The article is one step removed from the actual source, which is http://www.project-disco.org [project-disco.org]
[22:11:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03donkeyhotay [2540] (Score:2) 02Re:The significance of this - 06Police Say No Shooting Occurred at LAX - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:30] <exec> 08└─The point is that there were no real gunshots. Someone just REPORTS gunshots, and everyone freaks out. I don't mind people getting frightened about real gunshots, but it appears that we've gotten to the point where someone can just call in and say, "I heard gunshots" and the entire area is paralyzed...
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[23:01:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02I don't like the guy... - 06New Zealand Judge to Allow Kim Dotcom to Livestream Extradition Appeal - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:56] <exec> 08└─I don't like the guy, personally, but I'm rooting for him through this whole stupid mess.
[23:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nothing to see - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:07] <exec> 08└─LOLz +1
[23:02:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:I smell hype - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 1044 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:13] <exec> 08└─We are already detecting hints of exoplanets at distances greater than 95ly. If we assume an intelligence capable of sending strong signals out can do better than our efforts at detection we can assume they have spotted Earth and realize it is a good candidate for life. So their potentially sending...
[23:02:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:OMG Earth is doomed - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:22] <exec> 08└─You are mistaken, Trump's wig is an alien.
[23:02:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02the drake equation... - 06SETI Is Investigating a Possible Extraterrestrial Signal From Deep Space - 786 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:02:28] <exec> 08└─This is an interesting construct, as it contains only one parameter that matters - number of known civilizations (yes, it is set to 1.0, even though its probably 0.9 ;-) ). So it would seem likely, that if we find one, we'll find loads. The whole "star trek" hypothesis - y'know, Vulcan detects our w...
[23:02:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Really? - 06Apple is Sued Over iPhone 6 "Touch Disease" - 728 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:40] <exec> 08└─Agreed, I should have specified "file a complaint" (official) rather than "complain" (anyone can get pissed when their toy breaks). Legal minimum warranties are typically a year for consumer products, with some exceptions. I don't know of any jurisdiction which has extended minimum warranties for ph...
[23:03:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'm surprised the number is so low - 06TrendForce: 56% of PCs Sold Will Come With SSDs by 2018 - 545 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:06] <exec> 08└─No, back in the day, 48 KB was enough for anyone and was luxury. Most systems were 4K-16K. Except for that stupid Commodore 64! And then I got a 5 1/4" Disc Drive that could store 100KB PER DISK!!! I was a Senior in High School when I saw a networked 5 MB "Hard Drive." Why anyone would ever have nee...
[23:03:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:stop it - 06Fracking Chemicals Alter Hormone Levels in Mice - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:26] <exec> 08└─2) When done correctly, it's in a vertical well many thousands of feet below the water table. Because that is where the oil is.
[23:03:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03HighOrbit [3320] (Score:1) 02At what concentrations and exposure level? - 06Fracking Chemicals Alter Hormone Levels in Mice - 1055 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:35] <exec> 08└─Ingestion or exposure to any substance (including pure water) is dangerous in sufficient amounts or concentrations. So the PDF said "3, 30, 300, and 3000 (mu)g/kg-d, flutamide at 50 mg/kg-d". What does that mean in terms of realistic exposure?   I'm old enough to remember the saccharine scare of t...
[23:03:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:There was a certain elegance to DOS programming - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 834 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:59] <exec> 08└─Perhaps I shouldn't have snipped "to act like it should", which had various implicit "I need certain things to work" assuptions that seemed to include some kind of mixing of code pointers and data pointers. C doesn't guarantee any compatibility between the two, but it doesn't guarantee anything work...
[23:04:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02An important question: - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:04:02] <exec> 08└─What was the last processor that supported unreal mode? Does it work in dosbox? Does it still work on x86_64 chips running in x86/16 bit emulation mode?
[23:04:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I can guess the next part - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:04:28] <exec> 08└─couldn't you just proxy the DOS routine too? Change that code pointer to point to you and act like the DOS routine to the outside world while doing your stuff.
[23:04:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Post-Nihilist [5672] (Score:2) 02Re:I can guess the next part - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:04:29] <exec> 08└─On an AT PC, the keyboard is on IRQ2 (starting from 1) and IRQ2 call int 9 IRQ1 is the tick timer usually called at a precise 55ms interval. it is mapped on int 8. IRQ3 is chained to another PIC controller. int 1 is the Single Step interrupt, when the trap flag is set, it is called back after each i...
[23:04:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I can guess the next part - 06Retro-Malware: Writing A Keylogger for DOS, Part 1 - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:04:31] <exec> 08└─https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trap_flag [wikipedia.org]
[23:07:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02some reasons - 06Solar Price Continues to Fall to New Lows - 760 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:04] <exec> 08└─Taxes are extra, and they vary. Some places charge a few thousand $ to register the car. (Maryland is bad) Some places have a high sales tax; it could be around 10%. We have pretty severe driver-oriented passive safety requirements. Our assumption is that the driver is passed out and crashing into s...
[23:08:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Enhance security - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:10] <exec> 08└─So what if your boss requires you to snap a photo of your finished ballot in the voting booth? We can play that what if game forever, but after seeing long lines of people being disenfranchised of their vote this season, I have a lot respect for WA's system.
[23:08:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03jdavidb [5690] 02Cover? - 06FBI Says Foreign Hackers Penetrated State Election Systems - 306 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:08:44] <exec> 08└─Have you considered the impact on the US if the election for president is disrupted, with the winner unknown because the results are dependent upon the votes in one or more of the states with electronic-only voting systems? Some people might find it beneficial if the US election is disrupted or cont...
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