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[00:53:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Linux ❤ Microsoft - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:53:34] <exec> 08└─Thank you, Microsoft, for publishing these keys. We love you.
[00:53:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Linux ❤ Microsoft - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:53:35] <exec> 08└─what, no love for my123 and slipstream?
[00:53:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Should I laugh or should I cry? - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:53:38] <exec> 08└─In either case, I'm gonna wag my finger at Comey and say "I fucking told you so, asshole".
[00:53:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02RSA too - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:53:40] <exec> 08└─Don't even need MS's fuckup for an example. A few years back, RSA was hacked and the secret keys for every single RSA 2-factor fob were ex-filtrated. [arstechnica.com] Defense contractors were hacked. I was working with one such contractor at the time.
[00:53:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:Should I laugh or should I cry? - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:53:42] <exec> 08└─It would be ironic to Comery is the reason that people can now secure their Windows devices.
[00:54:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02land of the free - 06Revealed: How a Weather Forecast in 1967 Stopped Nuclear War - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:54:01] <exec> 08└─yeah right
[00:54:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Demena [5637] (Score:1) 02Re:why - 06Apple says Australia's Banks Pose a Security Threat to iPhones - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:54:20] <exec> 08└─They do do precisely that. And they charge for it. It is my belief that they have trained operators to 'misunderstand' and sell you what you do not want. I want fingerprint or password access required to authenticate all transactions as a security issue. The card 'stuck on the side' does no verifica...
[00:55:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:Hail - 06Elon Musk: "It's a Solar Roof, as Opposed to Modules on a Roof" - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:55:04] <exec> 08└─ah, another admirable footsoldier in the jihad against Big OS, excellent... (i'm being flippant, but serious)
[00:55:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Hail - 06Elon Musk: "It's a Solar Roof, as Opposed to Modules on a Roof" - 597 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:55:06] <exec> 08└─Then you have required sewer vents, which have to be anywhere, not just where the roof material wants them. Chimneys, roof vents, etc. Also repair-ability, when something takes out the middle panel of the array. And lets not forget basic shit like leak proof, heat expansion and contraction, snow loa...
[00:55:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02En Anglais - 06Elon Musk: "It's a Solar Roof, as Opposed to Modules on a Roof" - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:55:21] <exec> 08└─For english readers, here is a more accessible example: http://www.windandsun.co.uk [windandsun.co.uk] The trick is to search for solar frame integration roof. [google.com]
[00:57:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Walzmyn [987] (Score:2) 02Re:And this is why we need socialized medicine - 06Scientists Keeping Antibacterial Protein Approach Secret Due to Intellectual Property - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:57:39] <exec> 08└─Oh I'm 90% sure it's bogus. And even if it's real, I want YEARS of trials showing it won't kill the good bacteria right along with the bad. But I was responding to the economic argument. And, failings and scammers and misfires are part of the capitalist system. Caveat emptor.
[00:59:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Part of the experience? - 06Facebook to Make Ads Harder to Block - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:59:21] <exec> 08└─social pressures (from friends, family, etc.)
[01:00:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03DutchUncle [5370] (Score:2) 02Re:Civilized indeed... - 06Mass Murderer Dylann Roof Assaulted; Assailant's Bond Posted Quickly - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:00:51] <exec> 08└─I agree 100% that the guy is heinous. But I also feel 100% that society cannot allow vigilante assault just because the target is heinous, because that opens the door to vigilante assault on anyone at random, for whatever bigoted rationale the vigilante chooses.
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[01:53:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Desperate times - 06Meth Lab... in a Storm Sewer - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:53:36] <exec> 08└─Call for desperate measures
[01:53:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score:2) 02Re:Linux ❤ Microsoft - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:53:46] <exec> 08└─Thank you, Microsoft, for publishing these keys. We love you.
[01:53:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Should I laugh or should I cry? - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:53:51] <exec> 08└─Secure them by installing something else perhaps? I have a Surface Pro (Version 1) that my work supplied. Its a 64 bit intel processor Core-i5 I believe. Its pretty fast and would make a great linux machine. I haven't tried nuking it yet for fear of bricking it, but apparently it is possible because...
[01:53:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Should I laugh or should I cry? - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 552 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:53:53] <exec> 08└─I think a hearty Ha-Haaa is in order. I always have to wonder whether it's incompetence or corruption that leads these people to think that putting a backdoor in all those computers is a good thing. And then to not just make it a backdoor, but to use the same key for all of them is just astonishing....
[01:53:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:Should I laugh or should I cry? - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 721 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:53:55] <exec> 08└─those that build things, build things. those that don't, look to control and manipulate others. there really are (at least) 2 kinds of people on this planet. and neither really understands the other. we don't own things because the non-makers need to do 'something' and this is what we have. data-min...
[01:54:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re: A Happy Childhood - 06Revealed: How a Weather Forecast in 1967 Stopped Nuclear War - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:54:13] <exec> 08└─How about: neither of your narrow-minded choices. Until we can get past the politics of actually funding an adequate detection system, and the means to deal with one if detected, I'm not worried about the threat of an asteroid/comet. I have much more things to worry about(that I can actually affect...
[01:54:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re: A Happy Childhood - 06Revealed: How a Weather Forecast in 1967 Stopped Nuclear War - 651 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:54:16] <exec> 08└─We stand on the brink of annihilation today, and always. 7 billion people on the planet, and rising... that's a slow, grinding march towards societal collapse, not as dramatic as the two major superpowers taking themselves out of the equation allowing non-allied countries to flourish in the aftermat...
[01:54:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Overpopulation is a myth - 06Revealed: How a Weather Forecast in 1967 Stopped Nuclear War - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:54:18] <exec> 08└─https://overpopulationisamyth.com/ [overpopulationisamyth.com] "Overpopulation is a myth. This myth has caused human rights abuses around the world, forced population control, denied medicines to the poor, and targeted attacks on ethnic minorities and women."
[01:54:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Maybe Next Time - 06Revealed: How a Weather Forecast in 1967 Stopped Nuclear War - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:54:21] <exec> 08└─Given the heightened state of alert at the time – Vietnam's summer offensives weren't going well and forces were massing in the Middle East for the Six Day War that broke out days later – the news could have scared some folks into pushing the button.
[01:54:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:why - 06Apple says Australia's Banks Pose a Security Threat to iPhones - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:54:40] <exec> 08└─In Canada it is supposed to randomly ask for a PIN every $100 in spending or so. Sounds like a perfect excuse to get the PIN with a tampered reader.
[01:54:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Demena [5637] (Score:1) 02Re:Wah! - 06Apple says Australia's Banks Pose a Security Threat to iPhones - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:54:42] <exec> 08└─No. Good on them. The Aussie banks charge like wounded bulls and Apple Pay charges far less. The four banks here are effectively a cartel. They also write apps that are of relatively poor quality (caveat: I have only used three apps from two of the four banks) and I am not sure they (the apps) are t...
[01:54:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Demena [5637] (Score:1) 02Re:so apple wants a slice - 06Apple says Australia's Banks Pose a Security Threat to iPhones - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:54:46] <exec> 08└─In this case I think the trouble is the banks want 4% but Apple only wants to charge (and pay them) 1.5%. This may not be accurate as I am going by memory of a number of articles over the last year. In this case it seems to me that the banks are behaving badly and Apple is protecting customers.
[01:55:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Hail - 06Elon Musk: "It's a Solar Roof, as Opposed to Modules on a Roof" - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:55:36] <exec> 08└─That lease system seems unlikely to survive this transition to "being the roof". That's worse than "owning" an apartment (condo) in a building you have no control over.
[01:55:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Good old Elon... - 06Elon Musk: "It's a Solar Roof, as Opposed to Modules on a Roof" - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:55:51] <exec> 08└─Can you name one significant technical innovation that took the market "bottom up" rather than "top down?"
[01:55:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Good old Elon... - 06Elon Musk: "It's a Solar Roof, as Opposed to Modules on a Roof" - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:55:52] <exec> 08└─Well cell phones came pretty close to that. The time between the very expensive ones and cheap enough for joe factory job was amazingly short. And the switch over from crap flip phones and candybars to smartphones was even shorter. You could almost say it was driven not by the captains of industry b...
[01:57:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Rootless Display? - 06Sandboxing Browsers on Linux with Firejail - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:57:16] <exec> 08└─If you can get these these possibly outdated instructions to running virtualbox in windowless/headless mode to work: http://www.thatsgeeky.com [thatsgeeky.com] then set up a host-only network interface on your VM, have sshd listen on that interface, an...
[01:57:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Rootless Display? - 06Sandboxing Browsers on Linux with Firejail - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:57:17] <exec> 08└─Late versions of Virtualbox run headless with no drama. (at least in linux) VBoxManage startvm "VM name" --type headless I prefer to talk to mine with vnc, as it at least pretends to be secure.
[01:57:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Rootless Display? - 06Sandboxing Browsers on Linux with Firejail - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:57:19] <exec> 08└─It takes some work, but you can do this: https://www.virtualbox.org [virtualbox.org] VMWare and most others have a similar, but differently named, feature.
[01:58:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Regulatory denial... - 06Scientists Keeping Antibacterial Protein Approach Secret Due to Intellectual Property - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:58:08] <exec> 08└─due to the old version having a catastrophic issue with it that kills a subset of people under certain circumstances? :) It's the windows model brought to the big pharma business :)
[01:59:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Facebook to make Facebook harder to stomach - 06Facebook to Make Ads Harder to Block - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:59:38] <exec> 08└─What do you think those stupid like buttons all over the place are all about. I'm personally skeptical that they have a real name associated with it, but they definitely do track people who haven't logged in in an effort to better datamine the people that don't willingly hand over the goods.
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[02:53:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Arms Race in the Drug War - 06Meth Lab... in a Storm Sewer - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:53:38] <exec> 08└─What did we expect when illegal chemistry is more profitable than legal chemistry?
[02:53:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Arms Race in the Drug War - 06Meth Lab... in a Storm Sewer - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:53:39] <exec> 08└─Hopefully they had an eyewash station and proper ventilation hoods so that Mr. White won't need to give them a lecture.
[02:53:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02This is genius - 06Meth Lab... in a Storm Sewer - 2070 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:53:42] <exec> 08└─Put a meth lab where bad smells are expected. When I was a kid (60s), we made homemade fireworks. We found a drainage tunnel that ran about 1/4 to 1/2 mile and was maybe 4 ft high, perfect for 13 year olds. We'd make fireworks, head into the tunnel until we couldn't see any light at either end, and...
[02:53:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Re:This is genius - 06Meth Lab... in a Storm Sewer - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:53:44] <exec> 08└─Going to have to mod this +1 Rambling Nonsense, but Interesting Nonetheless.
[02:53:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Linux ❤ Microsoft - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 656 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:53:55] <exec> 08└─This ^ Microsoft used it's monopolistic position to force "secure boot" onto the world. If governments had any sense at all, any such plan would have required that GOVERNMENT hold the keys. If they had any real sense, they would have rejected the idea out of hand. The individual who purchases a piec...
[02:54:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Should I laugh or should I cry? - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 1081 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:54:03] <exec> 08└─I thought it easy to be among the controlled. Just slurp up the propaganda drummed into you during your public school years, learn what the authorities will permit, and then just go along to get along. The hard part is remaininc uncontrolled, in a world where control is ever more ubiquitous. The unc...
[02:54:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:Should I laugh or should I cry? - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:54:05] <exec> 08└─I always have to wonder whether it's incompetence or corruption that leads these people to think that putting a backdoor in all those computers is a good thing.
[02:54:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Re:Should I laugh or should I cry? - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:54:08] <exec> 08└─I always have to wonder
[02:58:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02If can't vote with your government.... - 06Scientists Keeping Antibacterial Protein Approach Secret Due to Intellectual Property - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:58:57] <exec> 08└─vote with your feet. Governments only work if they have enough money and manpower to operate. Take away enough of either and they will collapse until their own weight.
[03:01:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Civilized indeed... - 06Mass Murderer Dylann Roof Assaulted; Assailant's Bond Posted Quickly - 518 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:23] <exec> 08└─My move? Really? This is kinda like chess - there aren't any original moves left to make. But, I haven't really been playing the game seriously, either. The link above was more or less a random link, that touches on a central idea. The Jews have been kicking the idea around for a few thousand years,...
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[03:53:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score:2) 02You accidentally the story link - 06Book Review: Moonrush by Dennis Wingo - 460 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:53:37] <exec> 08└─I've visited every link in this post. It's nice to have a lot of things explained if people are unfamiliar, and the story is well written. That doesn't excuse the fact that not one leads to the referenced blog by a NASA engineer named (or going by the online tag) Wingo. Cursory Googling didn't turn...
[03:53:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score:2) 02Re:You accidentally the story link - 06Book Review: Moonrush by Dennis Wingo - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:53:38] <exec> 08└─Guess it's a book, and I should read the friendly title better. Given the subject, it's too bad he didn't put it in the public domain. The kind of cogent analysis promised needs to be freely and publicly available to guide policy.
[03:53:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You accidentally the story link - 06Book Review: Moonrush by Dennis Wingo - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:53:40] <exec> 08└─Is it a work by government (NASA) and thus gets no copyright? I tried to find out but the legalese was way too thick for me.
[03:53:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Not trivial to recreate the Saturn V - 06Book Review: Moonrush by Dennis Wingo - 915 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:53:43] <exec> 08└─My guess is that it isn't easy to recreate the Saturn 5 booster. While drawings might survive(?), pre-CAD/CAM, there was a huge amount of work done by expert toolmakers, machinists, fabricators, etc...to actually create the parts as intended. Nearly all those experienced people are gone now, and it...
[03:53:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is genius - 06Meth Lab... in a Storm Sewer - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:53:54] <exec> 08└─Good idea for a standard mod category on this site. You could use it better than once a day.
[03:53:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is genius - 06Meth Lab... in a Storm Sewer - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:53:56] <exec> 08└─Yeah, the new mod is right in there with the editor's tag line, > from the undampened-enthusiasm dept. Which I think is near-genius.
[03:54:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Linux kernel 4.8 - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:54:12] <exec> 08└─Linux Gets Improved Surface Support [nanonews.org] [Torvalds said about Linux kernel 4.8RC1:] Among the changes this time around are support for several touchscreen controllers, which contributors say will mean Linux can handle Microsoft’s Surface 3. Moreover, a Linux-based OS might give [better]...
[03:54:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score:2) 02All RT tablets, or just the first generation? - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 461 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:54:18] <exec> 08└─Neither the summary, nor the official release of the golden key, nor the Register actually specify if this applies to just the original, first-gen Surface RT or both that and the Surface RT 2. The 2nd gen has a lot better screen, which would be my preference. Seems like they are locked the same way...
[03:54:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Scared some folks into pushing the button - 06Revealed: How a Weather Forecast in 1967 Stopped Nuclear War - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:54:32] <exec> 08└─Hillary would accidentally because she's excessively careless. But it's okay because she didn't intend to push the button.
[03:57:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:separate accounts or OpenBSD pledge - 06Sandboxing Browsers on Linux with Firejail - 418 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:57:39] <exec> 08└─I don't quite understand the difference between -X and -Y. The man page mentions trustedness and X11 Security, but that plus my Googlefoo isn't coming up with a real explanation or why one should be chosen over the other. Based on what I've read, it seems -Y is less secure but more likely to work wi...
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[04:53:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:You accidentally the story link - 06Book Review: Moonrush by Dennis Wingo - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:53:41] <exec> 08└─Would not apply if the work was done on his own time.
[04:53:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:You accidentally the story link - 06Book Review: Moonrush by Dennis Wingo - 941 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:53:43] <exec> 08└─Incidentally, Dennis Wingo's blog [wordpress.com] has some great stuff. For example, he posted some papers on evaluating locations for polar sites for a lunar outpost. My internet is dog slow at the moment so I don't have time to hunt down a link to what I'm speaking of. My view is that the most v...
[04:53:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:You accidentally the story link - 06Book Review: Moonrush by Dennis Wingo - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:53:45] <exec> 08└─To get that response for long term projects on Mars, you would need people living within a few light seconds of Mars, meaning they would have to be either in orbit or on the surface.
[04:53:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Musk and Bezos are 1%ers - 06Book Review: Moonrush by Dennis Wingo - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:53:48] <exec> 08└─And they are doing a lot to progress space technology contrary to If we never get off Earth it will be due to the soul-sucking 1%ers and the legions of B-Ark space-cadets. On that basis, we deserve to not get anywhere
[04:54:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Methane - 06Meth Lab... in a Storm Sewer - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:54:02] <exec> 08└─Risk of methane combustion?
[04:54:20] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Re:Should I laugh or should I cry? - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 1081 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:54:20] <exec> 08└─I thought it easy to be among the controlled. Just slurp up the propaganda drummed into you during your public school years, learn what the authorities will permit, and then just go along to get along. The hard part is remaininc uncontrolled, in a world where control is ever more ubiquitous. The unc...
[04:54:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Should I laugh or should I cry? - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 463 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:54:22] <exec> 08└─It's easy until the ones doing the controlling start hurting you. This crap is precisely why I started on Linux over 12 years ago (yeeee gods, has it been THAT long already...?). Mostly everything you said up there was completely true, and sad to say I think we've lost this one: the technology is to...
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[04:55:03] <exec> 08└─Indeed. How do you like crapple when the shoe is in the other foot? Nice little banksies are just having a walled garden over there...
[05:00:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:C'mon Ad-blockers, Go, Go, Go... - 06Facebook to Make Ads Harder to Block - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:00:12] <exec> 08└─Thought you'd be interested. They already blocked the new ads: https://github.com [github.com]
[05:01:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Civilized indeed... - 06Mass Murderer Dylann Roof Assaulted; Assailant's Bond Posted Quickly - 922 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:01:43] <exec> 08└─What was the point of that piece of aimless claptrap? I've seen all this before; there are a number of Reform Jews on my father's side of the family and I've had discussions with some of them that brought ideas like this up. I swear to Cthulhu if you're going to chide me for being too literalistic,...
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[05:53:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02It's not easy - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 823 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:53:33] <exec> 08└─It's not easy to fight a state. The amount of power state holds, most people can only imagine. Most conspiracy theories can in fact become true if state wishes it to be so. I have great respect for Julian Assange. One can do a lot of damage to state while state is not looking but to have every count...
[05:53:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Also - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:53:34] <exec> 08└─http://townhall.com/columnists/rachelalexander/2016/08/09/clinton-body-count-or-leftwing-conspiracy-three-with-ties-to-dnc-mysteriously-die-n2203000 [townhall.com]
[05:53:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Clinton casualty collection - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:53:36] <exec> 08└─If true, it's yet another corpse in the Clinton casualty collection [clintonmemoriallibrary.com]. Or, if you prefer larger conspiracy theories, Hillary may just be a poor schmuck being used as a puppet by a larger group. $20k seems like a pretty measly reward, if you're risking being the next corpse...
[05:53:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02DNC Emails too small fry - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 1068 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:53:39] <exec> 08└─The idea that this guy was killed over the DNC emails doesn't pass the laugh test. The stuff revealed in the emails was stuff everybody already knew. All "proving" it did was get a couple of people fired who immediately got rehired somewhere else in the apparatus. If that woman who leaked the monic...
[05:53:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:DNC Emails too small fry - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:53:41] <exec> 08└─Internet Hillary Defense Force thanks you for your ongoing effort, royal employee. An appropriate amount of compensation has been deposited into your account.
[05:53:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:DNC Emails too small fry - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:53:43] <exec> 08└─Get over yourself. As if this podunk little site is worth spending a dime on psy-ops.
[05:55:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:why - 06Apple says Australia's Banks Pose a Security Threat to iPhones - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:55:19] <exec> 08└─and distribute the cards with double-sided tape so people can stick the cards to the backs of their mobiles?
[05:55:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:so apple wants a slice - 06Apple says Australia's Banks Pose a Security Threat to iPhones - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:55:24] <exec> 08└─In this case I think the trouble is the banks want 4% but Apple only wants to charge (and pay them) 1.5%. This may not be accurate as I am going by memory of a number of articles over the last year. In this case it seems to me that the banks are after all your children while Apple only wants your fi...
[05:58:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:Gee - 06Scientists Keeping Antibacterial Protein Approach Secret Due to Intellectual Property - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:58:44] <exec> 08└─What stops someone else from making the old version of the medicine?
[06:01:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Civilized indeed... - 06Mass Murderer Dylann Roof Assaulted; Assailant's Bond Posted Quickly - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:01:54] <exec> 08└─I simply know an evil spirit when I see one, and if this Yahweh fellow is real, that is what he is: a raging, genocidal, blaspheming demon arrogating the properties of God to itself, things it can never have and will never be.
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[06:53:39] <exec> 08└─Bill Clinton's publicist died on July 17. http://www.nytimes.com [nytimes.com]
[06:53:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02the nightmarish online world of gang stalking - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:53:44] <exec> 08└─https://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-nightmarish-online-world-of-gang-stalking [vice.com]
[06:53:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not trivial to recreate the Saturn V - 06Book Review: Moonrush by Dennis Wingo - 672 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:53:59] <exec> 08└─https://www.quora.com/How-did-we-lose-the-technology-to-go-to-the-Moon [quora.com] The tech ecosystem today is different from 50 years ago. The tools, machines, materials, processes, regulations and factories are different. I'm sure there was tons of undocumented stuff now gone. Especially since it...
[06:54:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Should I laugh or should I cry? - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:54:35] <exec> 08└─What a bunch of masturbatory self-congratulation. Runaway as John Galt!
[06:54:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Should I laugh or should I cry? - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:54:36] <exec> 08└─And yet he's completely correct. How many people surrender their information to scummy companies like Facebook? How many people do not care or know about freedom-respecting software? How many people support or do not care about government mass surveillance? It sure seems like a majority of the popul...
[06:54:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03redneckmother [3597] (Score:1) 02Re:All RT tablets, or just the first generation? - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:54:42] <exec> 08└─I don't want to spend $$ even for a gently used MS product unless I know with certainty it'll be under my full control.
[06:54:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Text from "demoscene" writeup - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 3644 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:54:44] <exec> 08└─| |                                 | a w r i t e u p r e l e a s e b y r o l |                                 | ________ ___ ________ ________ |                                 | https://rol.im Specific Secur...
[06:54:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Right to read - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 494 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:54:46] <exec> 08└─https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html [gnu.org] It was also possible to bypass the copyright monitors by installing a modified system kernel. Dan would eventually find out about the free kernels, even entire free operating systems, that had existed around the turn of the century. But no...
[06:55:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Absurd Level of Absurdity - 06Apple says Australia's Banks Pose a Security Threat to iPhones - 641 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:55:23] <exec> 08└─They didn't hold their hands out because Australia has actual banking regulations that stopped the banks from be as reckless as most other countries banks. Not for the lack of banks whining and complaining that they were't as competitive as the reckless banks, and even giving lots of money to the p...
[06:55:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03caffeinated bacon [4151] (Score:1) 02Re:why - 06Apple says Australia's Banks Pose a Security Threat to iPhones - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:55:34] <exec> 08└─If they didn't before, you can bet they do now.
[06:55:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wah! - 06Apple says Australia's Banks Pose a Security Threat to iPhones - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:55:38] <exec> 08└─Hahaha, Apple is the cheaper option. What rock are you living under?
[06:56:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Solar City isn't taking this laying down... - 06Elon Musk: "It's a Solar Roof, as Opposed to Modules on a Roof" - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:56:50] <exec> 08└─Solar City is going to build solar ROOFS at its Buffalo plant... [buffalonews.com]
[06:59:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:bug report - 06Scientists Keeping Antibacterial Protein Approach Secret Due to Intellectual Property - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:13] <exec> 08└─As one AC to another, I will fix this for you! I submitt edanac com mental grue the lines of hopping
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[07:53:51] <exec> 08└─Dude wasn't killed in some online world.
[07:54:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02US gov secret-keeping abilities: OPM - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 700 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:31] <exec> 08└─Office of Personnel Management. [washingtonpost.com] If someone wanted to impersonate a Top Secret-plus clearance holder, well, all the information they need was contained within the collected documentation at the OPM. The contents of the files are so detailed that individuals often need to do resea...
[07:54:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Should I laugh or should I cry? - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:44] <exec> 08└─Do not confuse learned helplessness with support or approval. Do not confuse ignorance with apathy.
[07:54:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Should I laugh or should I cry? - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:45] <exec> 08└─we don't own things because the non-makers need to do 'something' and this is what we have. data-mined, bombarded with advertising, being told 'privacy is dead, get over it'
[07:54:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02I have a question... - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 800 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:54:53] <exec> 08└─Who the fuck is buying the WinRT tablets? When the news first broke I looked on the usual sites (eBay, Amazon, CL) to see how much these things were going for, figuring it might be worth grabbing one to make a cheapo Linux tablet out of and....WTF? These things have weaker hardware at twice the pric...
[07:55:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Overpopulation is a myth - 06Revealed: How a Weather Forecast in 1967 Stopped Nuclear War - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:16] <exec> 08└─That's religious nonsense. You don't want to click. If you do, click here https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[07:58:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:separate accounts or OpenBSD pledge - 06Sandboxing Browsers on Linux with Firejail - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:58:20] <exec> 08└─With -X, ssh uses the X11 Security Extension, which is a form of X11 sandboxing. A program running through the X11 Security Extension can only snoop on windows using the same "magic cookie", and each separate connection will use a different cookie, and all of them different than the one used locally...
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[08:53:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score:2) 02Resident aliens? - 06Thailand Plans to Track All SIM Cards Sold in the Country - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:53:37] <exec> 08└─If you dont want to be tracked, you might just leave the phone at home. Large numbers of servers will fill up with somewhat pointless data, while the bad guys get away by letting their phone batteries go flat. I can't see this being a useful strategy for anything, really. No, wait... I'll buy the da...
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[08:53:39] <exec> 08└─Indeed, organized crime will have plenty of options in order to avoid the tracking and/or make the data useless: Simply use cell phones with removable battery, and remove the battery whenever not using the phone. Or, given that it is the SIM card that's tracked, remove that.Get phones from abroad an...
[08:54:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Not trivial to recreate the Saturn V - 06Book Review: Moonrush by Dennis Wingo - 737 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:54:09] <exec> 08└─Somewhere there is a warehouse.... Not of parts, but of tools and dies and all sorts of interesting things. There is always such a warehouse it seems. Boeing has hundreds of them all over the pacific north west. And there are machinists still. Young ones. Not everything is built with 3D printers yo...
[08:55:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Demena [5637] (Score:1) 02Re:Wah! - 06Apple says Australia's Banks Pose a Security Threat to iPhones - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:55:51] <exec> 08└─Well, the moon is a big one but it's about a light second away. I've done my sums and had my experiences, brought 3 kids an 2 parents into computing. Since I have been supplier and service to all of them and I value my time I know that Apple has been invariably the cheapest option even at Australian...
[08:56:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:how is this BREXIT? - 06Estonia's "Data Embassy" Could be UK's First Brexit Cyber Casualty - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:56:22] <exec> 08└─Did you even read the link you responded to? If they stayed there would be additional protections/changes, now that they are leaving there wont be. Seems straightforward enough.
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[09:53:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Resistance... is futile. Huh? - 06Google Employees Enjoyed "Revolving Door" to White House Appointed Positions - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:53:39] <exec> 08└─I think ordinary discussion of market forces, laissez-faire and the role of Government is irrelevant in regards to a system in which this is normal and institutionalized practice.
[09:53:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Resident aliens? - 06Thailand Plans to Track All SIM Cards Sold in the Country - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:53:49] <exec> 08└─> organized crime will have plenty of options in order to avoid the tracking The easiest one is to get a SIM registered by a local citizen. For foreigners that don't want to be tracked: if tourists, roam or don't use a SIM card and phone over WiFi. If expat, don't expat to Thailand anymore.
[09:53:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Also - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:54:00] <exec> 08└─What is the statistical significance? Without that, this is just nutty talk. I.e. given the number of staffers in the DNC (or whatever, I don't really understand what the DNC is), is this an abnormal number of deaths? How does it compare with the months prior to whatever leaks happened? How does it...
[09:54:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:DNC Emails too small fry - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:54:05] <exec> 08└─So, this is part of your manditory unpaid overtime, then?
[09:54:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:DNC Emails too small fry - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:54:07] <exec> 08└─That's what makes it great.
[09:55:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I have a question... - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:55:13] <exec> 08└─Who the fuck is buying the WinRT tablets?
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[10:53:41] <exec> 08└─Suppose this wasn't about Google but Apple, and during the whole encryption fiasco they oh so reluctantly passed on the keys. Would say there might be a conflict on interest? What do you make of Qwest's refusal of NSA surveillance requests and the prosecution of Joseph Nacchio shortly there afterwar...
[10:53:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Hah! Here comes the technological revolution! - 06Google Employees Enjoyed "Revolving Door" to White House Appointed Positions - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:53:42] <exec> 08└─Tech industry is part of the system now. I have been pointing out this to so many people but unfortunately, even bragging about your lofty ideals has become part of the game.
[10:54:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Also - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:54:03] <exec> 08└─Name any murders associated with the RNC. Point to how many people get shot in the back, nothing was taken, and it is declared a robbery. The particulars don't matter, nor does the statistical significance. It's just marking the anomaly. Draw your own conclusions.
[10:54:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Also - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:54:04] <exec> 08└─> Name any murders associated with the RNC. Name any murders being associated with the RNC, you mean? Media seizing upon this doesn't mean none have occurred elsewhere. Media attention is a fickle thing.
[10:55:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] 02Re:Should I laugh or should I cry? - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 721 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:55:01] <exec> 08└─those that build things, build things. those that don't, look to control and manipulate others. there really are (at least) 2 kinds of people on this planet. and neither really understands the other. we don't own things because the non-makers need to do 'something' and this is what we have. data-min...
[10:55:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02have care! - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 447 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:55:08] <exec> 08└─> Do not confuse learned helplessness with support or approval. Do not confuse ignorance (and intentional obfuscation - EULAs) with learned helplessness (which *requires effort* without effect) > Do not confuse ignorance with apathy. I have educated scores of persons. To a one the reply is a variati...
[10:55:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02inquiring minds - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 530 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:55:12] <exec> 08└─This inquiring mind wants to know now! I always took microwaves wattages, with the fact that things outside the unit don't get heated, to mean that at full power that wattage is fully converted to heat. But of course that's not true. Power could be lost to heating parts inside the unit (and surely t...
[11:01:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Part of the experience? - 06Facebook to Make Ads Harder to Block - 861 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:01:28] <exec> 08└─Facebook is not difficult to avoid, but people who say 'oh, I wish I wasn't on Facebook but it's so hard to avoid' are part of the problem. The value of being on Facebook is entirely due to network effects. If more people with disposable income said 'I won't use Facebook' then there's a big incentiv...
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[11:53:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03ls671 [891] (Score:2) 02Summary is to technical - 06Scientists Prolong Length of DMT Trips - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:53:48] <exec> 08└─The summary is to technical for me to understand. Could you please just let me know where I register for field testing?
[11:53:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Side effects? - 06Scientists Prolong Length of DMT Trips - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:53:49] <exec> 08└─So, are there any know side effects of this drug (addictive, damaging to the body)? Has any research been done on that? The wikipedia page says that it can be found in the human naturally, but what happens at high dosis (except the experience of the trip of course)? Any long-term users here?
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[12:53:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Divine Moments of Truth - 06Scientists Prolong Length of DMT Trips - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:53:56] <exec> 08└─I'll just leave this right here for people with 10 minutes and a good sound system: Shpongle - Divine Moments of Truth [youtube.com]
[12:53:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Divine Moments of Truth - 06Scientists Prolong Length of DMT Trips - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:53:58] <exec> 08└─It's created by Simon Posford under his Twisted [twistedmusic.com] label.
[12:54:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:DNC Emails too small fry - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:54:35] <exec> 08└─and yet, we have your presence to shine a light on our little piece of discussion... Did you get lost on the way back from your political toadying?
[12:54:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:DNC Emails too small fry - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:54:36] <exec> 08└─Toady? Don't you mean sheeple!?!!
[12:54:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:DNC Emails too small fry - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 2879 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:54:39] <exec> 08└─I think you are essentially right. In the ITV interview [itv.com] he seemed to say that the FBI would accumulate enough evidence to indict Hillary, and then ignore it or be overruled, which is basically what happened. I'm not sure if we can say that the FBI is trading non-indictment for increased po...
[12:55:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02pallets - 06Meth Lab... in a Storm Sewer - 352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:55:12] <exec> 08└─You know those blue pallets aren't cheap. They are like $500-1000 apiece! Is meth that much money? I'm not sure what the exact arrangement for using them is that places like Sam's Club have - its something like they lease X number a year, and ship out damaged/extra ones to get replaced by fresh ones...
[12:55:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Re:Linux ❤ Microsoft - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 656 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:25] <exec> 08└─This ^ Microsoft used it's monopolistic position to force "secure boot" onto the world. If governments had any sense at all, any such plan would have required that GOVERNMENT hold the keys. If they had any real sense, they would have rejected the idea out of hand. The individual who purchases a piec...
[12:55:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:have care! - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:40] <exec> 08└─People make trade-offs. People assign different values to things than you do. That doesn't make you an awesome person.
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[13:53:43] <exec> 08└─These super-high capacity drives are only going to drive down the cost of drives across the board. It might take a bit, but I for one look forward to high capacity and lower prices. :D
[13:53:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:I can hardly wait! - 06Toshiba Envisions a 100 TB QLC SSD in the "Near Future" - 689 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:53:45] <exec> 08└─Putting out higher capacities with newer and denser varieties of vertical NAND is definitely how SSD prices will be driven down. Slickdeals is down so I can't get the "good" prices, but a quick search finds that 1 TB SSDs are just under $300 (I would guess you could find it as low as $220 on sale),...
[13:53:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Summary is to technical - 06Scientists Prolong Length of DMT Trips - 737 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:53:54] <exec> 08└─Halluncinogens are used in some clinical trials, not sure if they are allowed anywhere for psychiatric use: http://www.nytimes.com [nytimes.com] https://www.reddit.com
[13:53:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03amlu [6052] (Score:1) 02Re:Side effects? - 06Scientists Prolong Length of DMT Trips - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:53:57] <exec> 08└─had a proper trip on vaporized crystal form DMT once and never really had a need to repeat it. addiction potential zero. may do it again when the time and place is right. couple of good friends do it more often maybe once month or so, they have many interesting stories to tell afterwards.
[13:54:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Counterpoint - 06Google Employees Enjoyed "Revolving Door" to White House Appointed Positions - 431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:54:08] <exec> 08└─Suffice to say that some of the people at Google are good at their jobs. Why shouldn't government be trying to hire some of them to fix their many IT problems? Also, what did they find when they asked a similar question about the other IT giants, like Amazon, Microsoft, and Oracle? There might indee...
[13:54:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03n1 [993] (Score:2) 02Re:Counterpoint - 06Google Employees Enjoyed "Revolving Door" to White House Appointed Positions - 733 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:54:10] <exec> 08└─You get the most experienced people from the industry to guide the government moving forward, this is especially important in technology to make sure they don't stifle the innovations in social media manipulation and advertising/marketing. It's the same reason we hire ex-bankers to regulate the fina...
[13:54:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02SIM writers - 06Thailand Plans to Track All SIM Cards Sold in the Country - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:54:20] <exec> 08└─Ok, so you steal/buy on black market a "citizen sim", use it as is, or blow it away and put what you want on it. ( copy another, get info from the internet for a 'foreign sim, whatever ). or BYOS... smuggle it in.
[13:54:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:DNC Emails too small fry - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:54:43] <exec> 08└─That AC has a legitimate opinion. Maybe instead of accusing anons of XYZ, you could explain why you think killing this staffer would be a well-calculated move on the part of the Clintons/DNC?
[13:54:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:DNC Emails too small fry - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:54:45] <exec> 08└─> Giving them your identity is your choice, The point is that he straight out claimed not to divulge sources. Half-assing it is not consistent with that claim. Even if the guy is dead, who knows how many confederates he had who are still alive and do not need the additional attention.
[13:54:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:the nightmarish online world of gang stalking - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:54:49] <exec> 08└─What does that have to do with anything? The dude didn't die of fright.
[13:55:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Not trivial to recreate the Saturn V - 06Book Review: Moonrush by Dennis Wingo - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:55:05] <exec> 08└─I notice that even SpaceX's Falcon Heavy will fall far short of the Saturn V payload, although Mars Colonial Transporter may be able to beat it (Saturn V = 310,000 lbs to LEO, 107,100 lbs to "trans lunar injection", Mars Colonial Transporter = 100 tons to Mars).
[13:55:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02Earth Orbit Rendezvous - 06Book Review: Moonrush by Dennis Wingo - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:55:08] <exec> 08└─After glancing over the description, it looks like his plan hinges on an earth orbit rendezvous. This was one of the potential mission plans for the original Apollo program. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[13:56:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Overpopulation is a myth - 06Revealed: How a Weather Forecast in 1967 Stopped Nuclear War - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:56:24] <exec> 08└─Global warming is a direct result of overpopulation. It's not just the polluting technologies, it's the sheer number of humans using and relying on it.
[13:58:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02more power - 06Elon Musk: "It's a Solar Roof, as Opposed to Modules on a Roof" - 672 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:58:10] <exec> 08└─it's likely that overall, these roofs will generate more power than if you just put modules on a roof. why? simple: safety standards. basically, you have to leave a 3 foot perimeter around your roof so that firemen can walk on it. however, if your roof is solar panels then you get the entire area. i...
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[13:59:36] <exec> 08└─Also, with -X, the apps can still copy/paste among each others' clipboards, but apparently not see each others' keystrokes or screen content. With -Y they can see all of those things. I believe there are ways to set specific permissions up with more granularity in between (or without) -X and -Y. (Co...
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[13:59:38] <exec> 08└─I forgot to mention that I also, on every system, set the default umask in /etc/profile to 0077, so that each user's files aren't world-readable by default.
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[14:54:11] <exec> 08└─https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/dmt.shtml [erowid.org]
[14:54:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedBear [1734] (Score:4, Informative) 02DMT is interesting - 06Scientists Prolong Length of DMT Trips - 4001 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:54:14] <exec> 08└─Hmmm... I am somewhat on the fence regarding the safety of subjecting people to extended DMT trips. I'll talk a bit about why later. Interesting timing on this, for me. I literally just watched a bunch of the extended interview videos on YouTube that didn't make it into the 2010 documentary based on...
[14:54:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:DMT is interesting - 06Scientists Prolong Length of DMT Trips - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:54:16] <exec> 08└─Maybe it's just me, but I get a little nervous about people talking about an experience with a substance possibly damaging, in a very permanent way, their connection to their own humanity. [...] a state of feeling like having transcended being a simple human animal and having experienced a state of...
[14:54:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Actual meaning vs random weirdness - 06Scientists Prolong Length of DMT Trips - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:54:18] <exec> 08└─I'm interested in trying this (DMT in general), but I'm a little afraid that I'll take the experience as actually meaningful instead of random weirdness generated by the brain, trying to give meaning to chemicals that shouldn't be there.
[14:54:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Actual meaning vs random weirdness - 06Scientists Prolong Length of DMT Trips - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:54:21] <exec> 08└─So you're afraid of having a "spiritual experience" because you don't think you'll be able to come back to your previous opinion that it's all just neurons firing? Seems a little excessive. You could write down "it's just random weirdness generated by the brain" on a piece of paper, do it, and then...
[14:54:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Actual meaning vs random weirdness - 06Scientists Prolong Length of DMT Trips - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:54:23] <exec> 08└─The point of taking hallucinogens is to get new insights on your life, to see yourself from a different perspective. If you don't want that, then they are not for you.
[14:54:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Actual meaning vs random weirdness - 06Scientists Prolong Length of DMT Trips - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:54:25] <exec> 08└─I'm a little afraid that I'll take the experience as actually meaningful instead of random weirdness generated by the brain, trying to give meaning to chemicals that shouldn't be there.
[14:54:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Resistance... is futile. Huh? - 06Google Employees Enjoyed "Revolving Door" to White House Appointed Positions - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:54:36] <exec> 08└─Suppose this wasn't about Google but Apple, and during the whole encryption fiasco they oh so reluctantly passed on the keys. Would say there might be a conflict on interest?
[14:54:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03n1 [993] (Score:2) 02Re:Resistance... is futile. Huh? - 06Google Employees Enjoyed "Revolving Door" to White House Appointed Positions - 999 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:54:38] <exec> 08└─I've seen similar stories in the UK at least, and i'm sure there are others elsewhere. It works both for the employees, going from exec mega-corp to government adviser position is about as good job security as you can get moving forward, you have high level experience in public and private sector fr...
[14:54:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Counterpoint - 06Google Employees Enjoyed "Revolving Door" to White House Appointed Positions - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:54:43] <exec> 08└─Obama hired away senior people from Google, and those people in turn hired some of their favorite staffers. What's the big deal? If Obama hadn't been hiring from Silicon Valley, the story would've been "Obama keeps hidebound bureaucrats with mainframe backgrounds to manage complex systems and techno...
[14:55:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Rich was murdered BEFORE the DNC leak was known - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:55:21] <exec> 08└─This is total BS by Assange. And he won't even confirm whether Rich had anything to do with the leak, merely insinuates it in Donald Trump fashion: I'm not saying whether Obama is working for the enemy, but you know, this looks real bad...
[14:55:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:pallets - 06Meth Lab... in a Storm Sewer - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:55:57] <exec> 08└─Because I'm sure the methheads bought them, sure...
[14:56:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:I have a question... - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:56:35] <exec> 08└─My mom did, and she loves it due to battery life, weight, and the price she did. The market for them exist(ed), it was bad marketing that prevented them from selling in any applicable manner.
[14:56:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re: A Happy Childhood - 06Revealed: How a Weather Forecast in 1967 Stopped Nuclear War - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:56:56] <exec> 08└─hum. it's entirely possible we are in more danger now than then. are YOU aware of the state of the security systems used at the various former USSR missile bases...? taking into account the general level of corruption in Russia, I would guess it's not that good.
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[15:53:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02looking through walls... in an emergency? - 06Here’s the Internal Presentation the FBI Uses to Train Surveillance Pilots - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:53:51] <exec> 08└─State police (not FBI) used an infrared camera on a helicopter in their search for the Boston bomber. Did they get a warrant for every home that passed through the camera's field of view? Maybe there has been some DEA parallel construction linked to using infrared to locate grow ops?
[15:53:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02weak whitewash? - 06Here’s the Internal Presentation the FBI Uses to Train Surveillance Pilots - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:53:52] <exec> 08└─is this supposed to be convincing me that all is well with the fbi and my constitutionally protected rights or something? are they joking? They would have to be 100% stupid to put "you're supposed to get a warrant for looking through walls, so don't get caught" in the freaking presentation. I don't...
[15:54:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:I can hardly wait! - 06Toshiba Envisions a 100 TB QLC SSD in the "Near Future" - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:54:02] <exec> 08└─I suspect the Toshiba announcements are 10% vaporware and 90% fraudware to pay old penalty fines and stay afloat.
[15:54:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Summary is to technical - 06Scientists Prolong Length of DMT Trips - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:54:13] <exec> 08└─Could you please just let me know where I register for field testing?
[15:54:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02no thai burner SIM available - 06Thailand Plans to Track All SIM Cards Sold in the Country - 957 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:54:50] <exec> 08└─maybe it just means that tourists can get a local toursit sim so as to keep the overall holiday expenses low (and no roaming surprises). also since the sim cards aren't used for a long time, the assigned number can be reused. it might also mean, that they have made some thai deal with some foreign c...
[15:54:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02already tracked - 06Thailand Plans to Track All SIM Cards Sold in the Country - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:54:51] <exec> 08└─these are already all tracked. You can just look at patterns and find all individuals, all their daily habits, everything. Labeling each individual is not even a technical problem anymore, just plain logistics.
[15:54:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02even better - 06Thailand Plans to Track All SIM Cards Sold in the Country - 453 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:54:54] <exec> 08└─maybe, while they're at it, they could also issue a special "hello kitty" sim card (pink card) for foreigners visiting the kingdom for "horizontal business" that allows and welcomes explicit tracking. this should make it more easy for the local super-wealthy elitists functionary, tired of the local...
[15:55:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:DNC Emails too small fry - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:55:18] <exec> 08└─There is huge value in taking something from the realm of speculation to the realm of fact. That is what whistleblowers do and to denigrate it like that makes you a moron.
[15:55:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:DNC Emails too small fry - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:55:19] <exec> 08└─An accurate description of events is not denigration. You are just so embalmed with rage against clinton that you see anything that doesn't reinforce your worldview as insulting.
[15:55:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Not trivial to recreate the Saturn V - 06Book Review: Moonrush by Dennis Wingo - 1427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:55:42] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately it costs more to piecemeal redesign a half century old design where every piece has to be compatible with legacy systems than it costs to just make a new clean sheet system. Look at the onboard engine control computer, for example. You'd like to think a computer thats 1000000 times fas...
[15:55:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03EQ [1716] (Score:2) 02Hey it worked in Kerbal Space Program... - 06Book Review: Moonrush by Dennis Wingo - 1221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:55:46] <exec> 08└─Earth Orbit is a logical step if you aren't in some sort of a "race" to get there first; establishing a lasting and productive base is a nearly completely different task. Find a goof delta-V efficient orbit that will help with the Hohmann transfer orbits on a regular basis, put a station there for r...
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[16:53:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Solution - 06Google Maps Accused of Deleting Palestine - But the Truth is More Complicated  - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:53:50] <exec> 08└─There can be different defaults for different regions, but let every individual user toggle how they want these regions handled. Just like every individual within these regions ought to be permitted to decide which government is theirs.
[16:53:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Donald Trump eats babies on toast - 06Google Maps Accused of Deleting Palestine - But the Truth is More Complicated  - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:53:51] <exec> 08└─Donald Trump eats babies on toast! Why does nobody care?
[16:53:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Donald Trump eats babies on toast - 06Google Maps Accused of Deleting Palestine - But the Truth is More Complicated  - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:53:53] <exec> 08└─Because babies cry and are annoying and should be aborted.
[16:54:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:3, Funny) 02Two birds with one stone - 06Student Built Electric Racecar - Lithium Battery Fire in Hotel Room - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:54:02] <exec> 08└─The ... competition includes both combustion and electric classes
[16:54:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not sure what it says about me or China - 06Student Built Electric Racecar - Lithium Battery Fire in Hotel Room - 610 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:54:04] <exec> 08└─My reaction to the story was... 1) That's tragic. Hopefully there won't be a crackdown on science and engineering. Mistakes happen, especially at a student level. 2) Wait, it was a Chinese team? Of course it was. Between the hoverboards and everything else, they seem to have a lot of shoddy workmans...
[16:54:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score:2) 02Chinese batteries - yeah, no kiddin' - 06Student Built Electric Racecar - Lithium Battery Fire in Hotel Room - 869 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:54:06] <exec> 08└─I ride an electric-assist velomobile. I bought the electric motor and battery pack in Taiwan. While the motor was decent enough, the battery pack was a disaster: the 18650 cells were very low quality, some had the shrink-wrapping torn, they were held in place by loose bits of polystyrene that obviou...
[16:54:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Possible lesson? - 06Student Built Electric Racecar - Lithium Battery Fire in Hotel Room - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:54:08] <exec> 08└─The Formula Student Germany competition includes both combustion and electric classes,
[16:54:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:looking through walls... in an emergency? - 06Here’s the Internal Presentation the FBI Uses to Train Surveillance Pilots - 521 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:54:18] <exec> 08└─Did they convict people based on what they saw? It's understood that a camera looking for a suspect during an active chase will pick up other things, including things that could land people in jail. It's typically up to the judge to decide whether that evidence is acceptable in court, and because of...
[16:54:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:I can hardly wait! - 06Toshiba Envisions a 100 TB QLC SSD in the "Near Future" - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:54:29] <exec> 08└─I'm gonna need to call my ISP ... Don't have enough bandwidth yet to download that much porn. PSA: Call your doctor is your erection lasts longer than 4GB.
[16:54:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03RedBear [1734] 02DMT is interesting - 06Scientists Prolong Length of DMT Trips - 4001 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:54:45] <exec> 08└─Hmmm... I am somewhat on the fence regarding the safety of subjecting people to extended DMT trips. I'll talk a bit about why later. Interesting timing on this, for me. I literally just watched a bunch of the extended interview videos on YouTube that didn't make it into the 2010 documentary based on...
[16:54:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:DMT is interesting - 06Scientists Prolong Length of DMT Trips - 735 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:54:47] <exec> 08└─Transhumanism is a mixed bag, of intellectual extrapolations and expectations. Most of what I've seen on the subject still prizes - actually exclusively prizes - the rational intellect. The aim often appears to be unfettering the intellect from various constraints, to operate as a supreme agent, wit...
[16:54:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:DMT is interesting - 06Scientists Prolong Length of DMT Trips - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:54:49] <exec> 08└─I'm sure everyone who knows how DMT works... That would be who? The implications of TFS is that nobody knows what the hell it actually is doing, but everybody survives.
[16:54:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Actual meaning vs random weirdness - 06Scientists Prolong Length of DMT Trips - 391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:54:53] <exec> 08└─I suspect your solution would work for some individuals, doses, and methods of consumption... but not all. New world views seem to be a fairly frequent side-effect of entheogen use, particularly at high doses. I think it's a risk that is healthiest to accept going into the experience, even if you do...
[16:54:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Actual meaning vs random weirdness - 06Scientists Prolong Length of DMT Trips - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:54:58] <exec> 08└─But yeah, you might walk away believing in machine elves or interdeminsional insect aliens.
[16:54:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Actual meaning vs random weirdness - 06Scientists Prolong Length of DMT Trips - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:55:00] <exec> 08└─What makes you so sure this isn't the weird trip kicked off by chemicals that shouldn't be there? What makes you so sure that a somewhat consistent experience that emerges from random stimulation of neurons is meaningless? Can it possibly be less meaningful than filling out a timesheet granular to t...
[16:55:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Hah! Here comes the technological revolution! - 06Google Employees Enjoyed "Revolving Door" to White House Appointed Positions - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:55:12] <exec> 08└─If there's gonna be revolving door, I'm choosing the tech industry over the oil and coal industries. Their abuses lead to my bedroom, not my lungs.
[16:55:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Other direction - 06Google Employees Enjoyed "Revolving Door" to White House Appointed Positions - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:55:16] <exec> 08└─From the graphic, it looks like by far most of the flow is from government officials going to work at Google and not the other way around. Are there any conflicts of interest for this?
[16:55:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:even better - 06Thailand Plans to Track All SIM Cards Sold in the Country - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:55:31] <exec> 08└─I think you ruined "hello kitty" for me. :P
[16:56:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Not trivial to recreate the Saturn V - 06Book Review: Moonrush by Dennis Wingo - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:56:21] <exec> 08└─But you see, they don't have to be compatible with legacy systems. Nobody is going to mate a saturn V with a lunar orbiter any more. The design of the sheet metal, ribs, mating collars, engines tankage, pumps don't have to interface with anything new. And making them (other than the engines) isn't p...
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[17:53:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Donald Trump eats babies on toast - 06Google Maps Accused of Deleting Palestine - But the Truth is More Complicated  - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:53:49] <exec> 08└─But they're yummier and you get more meat if you let them come to term and then fatten them up a little bit (not to mention running in a wheel but I don't want to give away my whole recipe)
[17:53:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Donald Trump eats babies on toast - 06Google Maps Accused of Deleting Palestine - But the Truth is More Complicated  - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:53:51] <exec> 08└─Touche, hooman.
[17:53:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03mattwrock [3835] (Score:1) 02In America - 06Google Maps Accused of Deleting Palestine - But the Truth is More Complicated  - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:53:53] <exec> 08└─There is The United States, some fuzzy grey blobs north and south of it, and the rest is blank!
[17:53:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03driven [6295] (Score:1) 02Re:In America - 06Google Maps Accused of Deleting Palestine - But the Truth is More Complicated  - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:53:55] <exec> 08└─I love on American weather reports how Canada is grayed out. You think your weather is not affected by the cold wind from up North?
[17:53:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:In America - 06Google Maps Accused of Deleting Palestine - But the Truth is More Complicated  - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:53:57] <exec> 08└─Sounds like you stuck with the free version and didn't purchase the DLC. If you buy the Monroe expansionist pack those blobs become North America and South America. If you buy the Imperial expansionist pack you get access to the whole globe.
[17:53:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:0, Troll) 02Re:In America - 06Google Maps Accused of Deleting Palestine - But the Truth is More Complicated  - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:54:00] <exec> 08└─The United States and Google are run by Jews. They are becoming more brazen in their desperation to get their puppet Hillary elected.
[17:54:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:In America - 06Google Maps Accused of Deleting Palestine - But the Truth is More Complicated  - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:54:02] <exec> 08└─1/10 you need to try harder if you want to raise your flame bait score.
[17:54:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:In America - 06Google Maps Accused of Deleting Palestine - But the Truth is More Complicated  - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:54:04] <exec> 08└─Flamebait-wha? I'm simply telling the truth. Take a look at the world around you, man!
[17:54:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02captain obvious department - 06Google Maps Accused of Deleting Palestine - But the Truth is More Complicated  - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:54:06] <exec> 08└─if the company is run by jews, of course Palestine isn't going to exist on the map :^)
[17:54:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:captain obvious department - 06Google Maps Accused of Deleting Palestine - But the Truth is More Complicated  - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:54:08] <exec> 08└─Don't blame "Jews". Blame the current government of the state of Israel, and its most hard-line supporters.
[17:54:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:Possible lesson? - 06Student Built Electric Racecar - Lithium Battery Fire in Hotel Room - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:54:19] <exec> 08└─I have such a charging tray. I bought a large Pyrex(tm) baking dish for charging batteries with a charger that does no appear to be UL certified. If I ever make my own charger, that won't be UL certified either.
[17:54:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:Possible lesson? - 06Student Built Electric Racecar - Lithium Battery Fire in Hotel Room - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:54:21] <exec> 08└─The tray approach only works for small batteries. Mine is about 14.4 Wh. According to TFS, the largest risk to health was smoke inhalation.
[17:54:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:Possible lesson? - 06Student Built Electric Racecar - Lithium Battery Fire in Hotel Room - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:54:23] <exec> 08└─err, make that 120Wh. I multiplied pack voltage by cell voltage, not current.time rating.
[17:54:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02[strike]haha oh wow[/strike] - 06Student Built Electric Racecar - Lithium Battery Fire in Hotel Room - 3 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:54:25] <exec> 08└─n/t
[17:54:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02ISIS Claims Responsibility - 06Student Built Electric Racecar - Lithium Battery Fire in Hotel Room - 593 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:54:28] <exec> 08└─The Islamic State group claimed responsibility for the deadly attack, calling it “the first of the storm” and mocking Hockenheim as a “capital of prostitution and obscenity,” according to statements released in multiple languages on one of the terror group’s encrypted messaging accounts. T...
[17:54:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:looking through walls... in an emergency? - 06Here’s the Internal Presentation the FBI Uses to Train Surveillance Pilots - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:54:38] <exec> 08└─"Put simply, you can't look through walls of a home without a search warrant,"
[17:54:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:looking through walls... in an emergency? - 06Here’s the Internal Presentation the FBI Uses to Train Surveillance Pilots - 428 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:54:40] <exec> 08└─Let me rephrase my point: "Put simply, you can't chase that suspect through the backyards without getting a warrant before jumping each fence". The Boston bomber case was considered an active-shooter chase. Those don't gather receivable evidence unless the cops tackle the bad guy right in the middle...
[17:54:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:looking through walls... in an emergency? - 06Here’s the Internal Presentation the FBI Uses to Train Surveillance Pilots - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:54:42] <exec> 08└─Never heard of parallel construction? Using infrared cameras to even look into houses other than ones you have a warrant to look into should be outright illegal, period.
[17:54:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score:1) 02Redaction Silliness - 06Here’s the Internal Presentation the FBI Uses to Train Surveillance Pilots - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:54:45] <exec> 08└─"What's the minimum flaps retraction speed in a C172?" "Sorry, state secret." Somehow I doubt the FAA examiner would be as amused by that as I would...
[17:54:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I can hardly wait! - 06Toshiba Envisions a 100 TB QLC SSD in the "Near Future" - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:54:56] <exec> 08└─This is a good point. (Both are!) We're soon back to the station wagon hurtling down the road loaded with ssds. http://www.lowtechmagazine.com [lowtechmagazine.com]
[17:54:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I can hardly wait! - 06Toshiba Envisions a 100 TB QLC SSD in the "Near Future" - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:54:58] <exec> 08└─It might take a bit
[17:54:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:I can hardly wait! - 06Toshiba Envisions a 100 TB QLC SSD in the "Near Future" - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:55:00] <exec> 08└─Don't you mean 480-800Tb?
[17:55:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Actual meaning vs random weirdness - 06Scientists Prolong Length of DMT Trips - 500 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:55:26] <exec> 08└─The way I see it, DMT and similar drugs may put the parts of the brain that recognize faces into overdrive, causing extreme pareidolia [wikipedia.org]. http://www.bbc.com [bbc.com] But I have never used DMT and it's just a guess. Other people repo...
[17:55:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Resistance... is futile. Huh? - 06Google Employees Enjoyed "Revolving Door" to White House Appointed Positions - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:55:39] <exec> 08└─All of a sudden it's bad that the government is hiring people who actually know what they are talking about as advisors?   We wail that regulators don't know what they are doing when it comes to tech. Then we gnash our teeth where they hire people that do.
[17:55:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Other direction - 06Google Employees Enjoyed "Revolving Door" to White House Appointed Positions - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:55:47] <exec> 08└─From the graphic, it looks like by far most of the flow is from government officials going to work at Google and not the other way around. Are there any conflicts of interest for this?
[17:55:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Resident aliens? - 06Thailand Plans to Track All SIM Cards Sold in the Country - 668 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:55:57] <exec> 08└─Phone companies can always triangulate you to within a few hundred metres. That power information is required for the network to function. All phones now have GPS, which can usually be disabled to save power (but auto-enables when calling emergency numbers in many cases). But my phone's GPS thinks I...
[17:56:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:DNC Emails too small fry - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:56:26] <exec> 08└─So, you have no rebuttal, then?
[17:56:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Re:DNC Emails too small fry - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 465 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:56:31] <exec> 08└─If the reporting of what Assange said is the full story, then he's being a dick. Why is wikileaks offering a reward for *this* murder? If the victim was not connected to wikileaks than it's just PR opportunism of the lowest sort. If the victim was connected to wikileaks then playing coy about "not r...
[17:56:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:DNC Emails too small fry - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 523 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:56:33] <exec> 08└─> Everything they release has to be at least considered as a potential fabrication, and for what Putin is trying to gain out of it. Assuming they have an agenda, I wouldn't expect them to be dumb enough to fabricate, but rather just selectively tell the truth rather than the whole truth. Kinda like...
[17:56:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:the nightmarish online world of gang stalking - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:56:37] <exec> 08└─If you die under hypnosis, you also die in real-life.
[17:56:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:the nightmarish online world of gang stalking - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:56:41] <exec> 08└─What does that have to do with anything? The dude didn't die of fright.
[17:57:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:pallets - 06Meth Lab... in a Storm Sewer - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:57:20] <exec> 08└─They learned from Breaking Bad that you need to buy the plastic one or bad things happen.
[17:57:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I always wondered why... - 06Meth Lab... in a Storm Sewer - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:57:22] <exec> 08└─Some smelled like battery acid, some like gasoline, some like shit and was brown instead of white.
[17:58:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03quacking duck [1395] (Score:2) 02Re:why - 06Apple says Australia's Banks Pose a Security Threat to iPhones - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:58:49] <exec> 08└─I've had NFC on my main credit card for years and it's never asked for a PIN when tapping. However, I'm doing a good mix of tap and chip+PIN (don't seem to have tap option in most restaurants), so maybe it thinks that's good enough.
[18:01:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03driven [6295] (Score:1) 02Re:user accounts - 06Sandboxing Browsers on Linux with Firejail - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:01:33] <exec> 08└─Have a look at Running GUI apps with Docker [fabiorehm.com] to run Firefox or whatever browser inside a Docker container. Destroy the container when your browser session is done. Should be able to run as many containers as you want, too.
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[18:53:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Nonsense - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 1029 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:53:43] <exec> 08└─I bitch a lot about the federal government assuming powers that it rightfully doesn't have. But, in this case, I see "Federal Communications Commission" and I think they have the proper authority to define who can or cannot be an ISP. I don't believe that any state has the authority to ban a city fr...
[18:53:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nonsense - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:53:45] <exec> 08└─I bitch a lot about the federal government assuming powers that it rightfully doesn't have. But, in this case, I see "Federal Communications Commission" and I think they have the proper authority to define who can or cannot be an ISP.
[18:53:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02State vs. Federal - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 1067 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:53:47] <exec> 08└─I'm all for State's rights and think the Feds should only step in when it is generally a constitutional matter. This usually comes down to the Feds keeping the States from restricting personal freedom of the people. So in this case, why should the states be allowed to restrict a municipality from pr...
[18:53:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:State vs. Federal - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 862 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:53:49] <exec> 08└─bribes and kickbacks are the ONLY reason. no need for a 'study'. its as obvious as the noses on our faces. the fact that we are stuck with non-freedom based laws means we have lost the moral high ground and the prinicples the US were made on have all been sold out. shit like this makes me hope that...
[18:53:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:State vs. Federal - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:53:51] <exec> 08└─the fact that we are stuck with non-freedom based laws means we have lost the moral high ground and the prinicples the US were made on have all been sold out.
[18:53:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:State vs. Federal - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 1886 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:53:53] <exec> 08└─The bread and circuses works really well because there is a certain tipping point the people must reach on average before they are willing to fully invest themselves in protest. Ghandi and MLK really had the best methods, but in both cases things had gotten so bad that they had a major following. Th...
[18:53:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:State vs. Federal - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:53:56] <exec> 08└─The truly sad part is you are too oblivious to reckon a portion of that revolutionary spirit is directed at your ilk. Comparing a lack of municipal ISPs to Occupy and Ghandi? Oh please.
[18:53:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:State vs. Federal - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 512 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:53:58] <exec> 08└─The FCC could argue the case under the commerce clause, however congress would have to grant the FCC that specific power. While sympathetic to the arguments, I note that this is more or less a case of the cudgel of government is fine and good for things i support, and a gross injustice for things I...
[18:53:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02federal funding - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:54:00] <exec> 08└─even if the FCC can't override state laws, the federal government can always (threaten to) withhold federal funding from states that don't comply with FCC regulations.
[18:54:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:federal funding - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:54:02] <exec> 08└─Sounds like a cheap workaround of the constitution, and that same workaround has been used to force all kinds of draconian policies on states.
[18:54:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:federal funding - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:54:04] <exec> 08└─Sounds like a cheap workaround of the constitution, and that same workaround has been used to force all kinds of draconian policies on states.
[18:54:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:federal funding - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:54:07] <exec> 08└─Double nickle. Title 9. NCLB. Oh and fuck off.
[18:54:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Oligopolistic Business As Usual - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 684 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:54:09] <exec> 08└─Appeals court judge determines that cartel-like, monopolistic broadband providers are well within their rights to buy state law at the expense of the general public. I'm all for State's rights and think the Feds should only step in when it is generally a constitutional matter. This usually comes do...
[18:54:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Donald Trump eats babies on toast - 06Google Maps Accused of Deleting Palestine - But the Truth is More Complicated  - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:54:21] <exec> 08└─That's a dirty lie! He eats them in taco shells.
[18:54:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:In America - 06Google Maps Accused of Deleting Palestine - But the Truth is More Complicated  - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:54:29] <exec> 08└─3/10 Your righteous indignation needs work too.
[18:54:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:In America - 06Google Maps Accused of Deleting Palestine - But the Truth is More Complicated  - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:54:31] <exec> 08└─If Amierca is run by the Jews, then why do they let Donald Trump eat Jew babies on toast, without cutlery?!
[18:54:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:In America - 06Google Maps Accused of Deleting Palestine - But the Truth is More Complicated  - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:54:33] <exec> 08└─Jason Miller has issued a statement on behalf of the Trump campaign. The statement explains that it was just another of Donald J. Trump's funny jokes, misinterpreted as usual by the dishonest media. This year, says the statement, toasted Jews with butter and marmalade will be voting in record number...
[18:54:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:captain obvious department - 06Google Maps Accused of Deleting Palestine - But the Truth is More Complicated  - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:54:38] <exec> 08└─Don't blame "Jews". Blame the current government of the state of Israel, and its most hard-line supporters.
[18:54:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:captain obvious department - 06Google Maps Accused of Deleting Palestine - But the Truth is More Complicated  - 675 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:54:40] <exec> 08└─I'm pointing out that not all jews like Bibi and approve of his actions. There are lots of people who would like to see him and the extremist settler parties gone from government and the Occupied Territories. They are Jews to, and I don't like to see them put in the same bucket as the government the...
[18:54:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Custom, eh? - 06Google Maps Accused of Deleting Palestine - But the Truth is More Complicated  - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:54:42] <exec> 08└─For example: users in Russia see a solid boundary line around Russia and Crimea. Outside of Russia, Crimea is surrounded by dashed lines, indicating it as occupied territory.
[18:54:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03fishybell [3156] 02Two birds with one stone - 06Student Built Electric Racecar - Lithium Battery Fire in Hotel Room - 65 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:54:51] <exec> 08└─The ... competition includes both combustion and electric classes
[18:55:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:looking through walls... in an emergency? - 06Here’s the Internal Presentation the FBI Uses to Train Surveillance Pilots - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:55:10] <exec> 08└─Fences have existed for as long as our country has existed. Infrared looking through walls - not. Let them get a warrant for every home they want to scan where the homeowner has not invited them inside and there is no outside indication that the shooter sought refuge there.
[18:55:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Actual meaning vs random weirdness - 06Scientists Prolong Length of DMT Trips - 616 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:55:55] <exec> 08└─I've only smoked it, but geometric shapes were a large part of my few experiences with DMT. No machine elves, unfortunately(?). Oddly, the geometric shapes were sometimes divided into distinct panes as if they were being rendered in a tiling window manager. I heard an NPR interview with Oliver Sacks...
[18:55:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Re:Actual meaning vs random weirdness - 06Scientists Prolong Length of DMT Trips - 616 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:55:56] <exec> 08└─I think I might have fallen into a kettle of DMT or some shit as a baby, because I already have an extremely trigger-happy pattern recognition (Me: "Hey, that guy looks like [someone]". Other: "No, he doesn't". Me: "Yes he does! I can't believe you don't see it!"). Pareidolia and recognizing animal...
[18:55:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Actual meaning vs random weirdness - 06Scientists Prolong Length of DMT Trips - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:55:58] <exec> 08└─The face on Mars is objectively real. Some (not me) draw wild conclusions about the nature of that reality, but we can all agree that the it is objectively real. We all see it in the picture. I haven't done DMT either, but the reports I have read were that it was beyond just a visual impression. The...
[18:56:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Actual meaning vs random weirdness - 06Scientists Prolong Length of DMT Trips - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:56:01] <exec> 08└─We all see it in the picture.
[18:56:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Actual meaning vs random weirdness - 06Scientists Prolong Length of DMT Trips - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:56:03] <exec> 08└─The sense of presence may also be the result of one part of the mind experiencing another part from an unaccustomed perspective.
[18:56:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Actual meaning vs random weirdness - 06Scientists Prolong Length of DMT Trips - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:56:05] <exec> 08└─The face on Mars is objectively real. Some (not me) draw wild conclusions about the nature of that reality, but we can all agree that the it is objectively real.
[18:56:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Clinton casualty collection - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:56:55] <exec> 08└─Politicians at her level are never "poor schmucks". Possibly ignorant of all the details and horrible things done for their benefit, but not totally unaware.
[18:57:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:DNC Emails too small fry - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 683 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:57:07] <exec> 08└─18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information: Whoever, for the purpose of obtaining information respecting the national defense with intent or reason to believe that the information is to be used to the injury of the United States... 18 U.S. Code § 798 - Disclosure o...
[18:57:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:DNC Emails too small fry - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:57:09] <exec> 08└─WTF is the point of this reply? Did you reply to the wrong comment?
[18:57:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:DNC Emails too small fry - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 553 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:57:11] <exec> 08└─No they didn't. They're citing the exact fucking reason why the FBI declined to prosecute. They felt there was no intent to inappropriately locate intelligence. Leaving a classified document in your briefcase overnight will get you fired, but it won't get you charges. Same deal here. Understanding t...
[18:57:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fact-based anti-distraction - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 1159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:57:13] <exec> 08└─Wrong, and wrong law cited. The FBI director explicitly stated that there is evidence to drag HRC in front of a court to face charges [youtube.com], but then implicitly said he didn't want to die of unnatural causes. The correct citation of law by with to charge (and convict) Hillary Rodham Clinton...
[18:57:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Fact-based anti-distraction - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:57:15] <exec> 08└─Legal Definition of Gross Negligence [thefreedictionary.com]   Gross negligence is a conscious and voluntary disregard of the need to use reasonable care, which is likely to cause...
[18:57:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:DNC Emails too small fry - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 551 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:57:19] <exec> 08└─What is insulting is your ascription of "rage" to any view of Hillary Rodham Clinton that correctly holds her as damaged goods at best. Otherwise, as a small number of vocal people are fond of saying, all Snowden did was just confirm what everyone already knew. So why all the hue and cry for the ext...
[18:57:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:the nightmarish online world of gang stalking - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:57:29] <exec> 08└─Well, if you had taken your meds and read the article the AC posted, you would have seen it was about people who believe there are massive operations to intimidate them and cause paranoia, by using multiple people to cause strange incidents during their daily lives. Assassinating someone and making...
[18:57:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:the nightmarish online world of gang stalking - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:57:31] <exec> 08└─Well, if you had taken your meds
[18:57:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:the nightmarish online world of gang stalking - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:57:33] <exec> 08└─I haven't said that I believe that the DNC or Clintons had this person or that person killed. The point is that the AC comment is off-topic. Oh, I get it. Discussing any inkling of possibility that a certain killing may have been political in nature puts you on the same level as schizophrenic people...
[18:57:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:the nightmarish online world of gang stalking - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:57:35] <exec> 08└─Oh, and this may be useful for some here: If you're worried about mental health issues affecting yourself or someone you know, you can reach out for information or support from organisations including Mind in the UK on 0300 123 3393, or to the SAMHSA helpline in the US on 1‑877‑726‑4727.
[18:57:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Assange Has No Axe To Grind... - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 669 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:57:38] <exec> 08└─Against the Obama Administration [wikipedia.org] or its former Secretary of State [theintercept.com]. I mean he is most certainly not so afraid of those folks that he's been holed up in the Ecuadorian embassy in London for four years or anything like that. [wikipedia.org] As such, he has absolutely...
[18:57:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03jlv [3756] (Score:1) 02Re:You accidentally the story link - 06Book Review: Moonrush by Dennis Wingo - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:57:52] <exec> 08└─It's a book review. So you look for the book: https://www.google.com [google.com] And that gives: Moonrush: Improving Life on Earth with the Moon's Resources https://books.google.com [google.com] https://www.amazon.com
[18:57:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03jlv [3756] (Score:1) 02Moonrush: Improving Life on Earth with the Moon's - 06Book Review: Moonrush by Dennis Wingo - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:57:54] <exec> 08└─and the book is from 2004.
[18:57:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:You accidentally the story link - 06Book Review: Moonrush by Dennis Wingo - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:57:56] <exec> 08└─Not a famous author [wikipedia.org] (no wikipedia entry on him) but the link above mentions him. B&N and Amazon both want twenty five bucks for a PAPERBACK, but Amazon has one available for about three. Glad to see this review, far better than yesterday's. I wonder of the library has a copy? I'll ha...
[18:58:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02From the hardware and software angle, I agree... - 06Bungling Microsoft Singlehandedly Proves that Golden Backdoor Keys are a Terrible Idea - 1580 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:58:45] <exec> 08└─While there were suspicions about the capability to coopt computer hardware (especially x86) since the mid 90s (SMM/option roms before all the modern stuff became standard), it is becoming increasingly difficult to have both hardware and software you can trust. All of the ARM/x86 hardware has drm an...
[18:59:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I thought Trump had outed himself like... - 06Revealed: How a Weather Forecast in 1967 Stopped Nuclear War - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:16] <exec> 08└─Terry Bollea and the Public Face of Trump had a huge dick that had taken away much of the size from his hands, but the 'real' Trump in fact had an average sized penis, as depicted in the leaked sex tapes from that time he did his friend's daughter. Yeah I made that last part up, but it needed to fol...
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[19:53:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:Nonsense - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 1112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:53:48] <exec> 08└─Oh that's easy. Commerce clause! Next! Ok, more seriously, it's right next to the part that allows it to put people in jail for growing unapproved plants or owning unapproved arms; to impose fines for claiming an unapproved substance is a medicine; to dictate educational standards; to impose fines f...
[19:53:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Re:Nonsense - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:53:50] <exec> 08└─Oh that's easy. Commerce clause! Next!
[19:53:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Nonsense - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:53:52] <exec> 08└─Well, the FCC operates under the "interstate commerce" clause of the Constitution so I agree, the court got it wrong. But then, it's an appeals court, not SCOTUS. This sounds like when SCOTUS defined the word "limited" to mean whatever Congress says it means. As to whether a state can ban a city fro...
[19:53:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nonsense - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:53:54] <exec> 08└─Well, the FCC operates under the "interstate commerce" clause of the Constitution
[19:53:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nonsense - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:53:56] <exec> 08└─And yet when the judiciary does exercise some restraint with the application, it's all corruption and dystopia. Make up your fucking minds.
[19:53:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nonsense - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:53:59] <exec> 08└─Different people have different opinions. What a shocker. You can't use a faceless horde of people to pretend as if individuals are contradicting themselves.
[19:54:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:State vs. Federal - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 1251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:54:04] <exec> 08└─I'm too old and bitter to believe we can fix ourselves the peaceful way. things have been broken for a long time - some things have been broken nearly 100 years. that does not inspire me to think the system can heal itself. note well, I do not want a violent revolution, but I feel its necessary sinc...
[19:54:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:State vs. Federal - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:54:08] <exec> 08└─Banning municipal ISPs is one out of countless examples of widespread corruption. But it looks like you chose to be disingenuous.
[19:54:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:State vs. Federal - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:54:10] <exec> 08└─I'm sorry, I wasn't aware they suspended elections in North Carolina and Tennessee, and that the only possible remedy to this is an appeal to the FCC to then regulate ISPs in ALL states because apparently it is too much bother to petition their local representatives. Which they even can, but... gasp...
[19:54:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:State vs. Federal - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:54:12] <exec> 08└─I'm sorry, I wasn't aware they suspended elections in North Carolina and Tennessee, and that the only possible remedy to this is an appeal to the FCC to then regulate ISPs in ALL states because apparently it is too much bother to petition their local representatives.
[19:54:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:State vs. Federal - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 535 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:54:15] <exec> 08└─clearly, it will get very very bad if we have a violent revolution. but I see no sign that a peaceful one that works 'inside the system' can ever work. I just don't see it. sorry. the system is too self-serving to fix itself any other way. yes, a revolution will suck and we will be far worse off for...
[19:54:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:State vs. Federal - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 462 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:54:17] <exec> 08└─Its not a chance we have to take, at that point it is something that will be forced upon us. The "powers that be" think they are so superior to the peons, but they can't get it through their thick skulls that the good of all spreads to themselves. Their greed has blinded "the system" and will result...
[19:54:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:State vs. Federal - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:54:19] <exec> 08└─In a small town pushing for a muni-ISP, TheGratefulNet rouses the rabble: yes, a revolution will suck and we will be far worse off for a long time
[19:54:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:State vs. Federal - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:54:22] <exec> 08└─The FCC could argue the case under the commerce clause, however congress would have to grant the FCC that specific power.
[19:54:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:State vs. Federal - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 525 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:54:24] <exec> 08└─Wire crosses state lines. This is one of the few unambiguous applications of the commerce clause, but the power of regulation is specific to congress alone. If congress wishes to grant the FCC more authority, so be it, but it is going to require new law, which the congress has been hesitant about. Y...
[19:54:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:federal funding - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:54:30] <exec> 08└─And that's what you consider draconian [dictionary.com]? I'd hate to be the guy who puts too much milk in your coffee. You are so very sweet. Thank you!
[19:54:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:In America - 06Google Maps Accused of Deleting Palestine - But the Truth is More Complicated  - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:54:47] <exec> 08└─Probably more due to licensing issues than anything :P #hahaonlyserious
[19:54:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:In America - 06Google Maps Accused of Deleting Palestine - But the Truth is More Complicated  - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:54:55] <exec> 08└─Because they're kosher.
[19:54:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:In America - 06Google Maps Accused of Deleting Palestine - But the Truth is More Complicated  - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:54:58] <exec> 08└─They tried, but there are too many tourists already in the oven. [ducks]
[19:55:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:captain obvious department - 06Google Maps Accused of Deleting Palestine - But the Truth is More Complicated  - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:55:04] <exec> 08└─Can anybody source this quote: "there's be a lot fewer wars if people would just give up more easily." ?
[19:55:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Guess who's M.o.D. in Israel now? - 06Google Maps Accused of Deleting Palestine - But the Truth is More Complicated  - 351 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:55:06] <exec> 08└─I actually read a short news article on the BBC news, that said that Netanyahu has appointed Avigdor Lieberman as... (ominous drumroll) Minister of Defense! I'm NOT joking. 25 may 2016, and WW III hasn't started yet. http://www.bbc.com [bbc.com] Mr Lieberman pledged...
[19:55:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2, Funny) 02Re:Custom, eh? - 06Google Maps Accused of Deleting Palestine - But the Truth is More Complicated  - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:55:09] <exec> 08└─With Trump walls built along desired borders.
[19:55:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Custom, eh? - 06Google Maps Accused of Deleting Palestine - But the Truth is More Complicated  - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:55:11] <exec> 08└─They're the best walls! And he'll make the real world pay for it!
[19:55:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The truth is that modern "Palestine" is a fiction - 06Google Maps Accused of Deleting Palestine - But the Truth is More Complicated  - 4015 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:55:14] <exec> 08└─~2000 BC - tribes in the Judean hills start calling themselves Jews and Hebrews. 1200 BC - Greeks invade the eastern Mediterranean by sea, occupy coastal regions, become known as Philistines. 1000 BC - Kingdom of Judea established. The Judean hill tribes merge into one identity. ~600BC - Philistines...
[19:55:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not sure what it says about me or China - 06Student Built Electric Racecar - Lithium Battery Fire in Hotel Room - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:55:24] <exec> 08└─Theresa May, is that you? [telegraph.co.uk]
[19:55:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Chinese batteries - yeah, no kiddin' - 06Student Built Electric Racecar - Lithium Battery Fire in Hotel Room - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:55:27] <exec> 08└─They do like things that burn spectacularly -- starting with invention of fireworks.
[19:56:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02100?! - 06Toshiba Envisions a 100 TB QLC SSD in the "Near Future" - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:56:01] <exec> 08└─Am I reading the cycle rate on a per cell r/e? 100?! Yuck!
[19:56:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Resistance... is futile. Huh? - 06Google Employees Enjoyed "Revolving Door" to White House Appointed Positions - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:56:47] <exec> 08└─I would say the teeth gnashing is about the disproportionate number of people coming from a single company. There are experts all over with much broader experience than the rather focused people at Google. This entire topic is something to be covered by an investigative committee or somesuch.
[19:57:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Resident aliens? - 06Thailand Plans to Track All SIM Cards Sold in the Country - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:57:06] <exec> 08└─Phone companies can always triangulate you to within a few hundred metres.
[19:57:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fact-based anti-distraction - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:57:46] <exec> 08└─Are you suggesting that Hillary Rodham Clinton accidentally or involuntarily set up her wildly insecure Internet-facing email server which was used to send and receive SECRET, TOP SECRET, and/or Special Access Program classified information? Nothing else in your phrase mitigates HRC's obvious violat...
[19:57:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Fact-based anti-distraction - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:57:47] <exec> 08└─By "wildly insecure" you mean the only Democratic server that hasn't been provably hacked?
[19:57:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:DNC Emails too small fry - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:57:49] <exec> 08└─If the staffer was the source, encouraging capture of the killer seems like a good idea.
[19:57:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:DNC Emails too small fry - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 385 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:57:51] <exec> 08└─Sure, but why should Julian Assange/Wikileaks of all the millions of people and orgs out there with $20k to kick around be the one to post the bounty? Heck, there may even be a way to coordinate with the MPDC to increase the existing $25k bounty anonymously, in order to avoid making the dead man loo...
[19:57:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:DNC Emails too small fry - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 508 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:57:54] <exec> 08└─I think you are right about the 20k. He basically risks nothing. The killer will probably never be caught. He either gets a cheap shot at HRC for saying he would cough up 20k or a real shot at someone he is actually gunning for, for 20k. It basically is a win-win bet for him with no downside. Even i...
[19:58:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:the nightmarish online world of gang stalking - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:58:07] <exec> 08└─I haven't said that I believe that the DNC or Clintons had this person or that person killed. The point is that the AC comment is off-topic.
[19:58:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Assange Has No Axe To Grind... - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:58:12] <exec> 08└─Assangel is a self aggrandizing douche nozzle who needs to feel important. He doesn't need an axe to grind - all he needs is attention. In this instance (and probably others) he's just the conduit by which documents were routed into the public realm to fulfill the desire of others.
[19:58:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Assange Has No Axe To Grind... - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:58:14] <exec> 08└─Sure he has some motive, but I think you're violating both aspects of your sig :P
[19:58:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Arms Race in the Drug War - 06Meth Lab... in a Storm Sewer - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:58:48] <exec> 08└─What did we expect when illegal chemistry is more profitable than legal chemistry?
[19:58:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03archfeld [4650] (Score:2) 02Re:Arms Race in the Drug War - 06Meth Lab... in a Storm Sewer - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:58:50] <exec> 08└─Hardly. While a meth lab can make you some good money, it is a pittance compared to what the big pharma companies are making. Millions vs hundreds of billions.
[20:00:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wah! - 06Apple says Australia's Banks Pose a Security Threat to iPhones - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:00:42] <exec> 08└─Hahaha, Apple is the cheaper option. What rock are you living under?
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[20:53:42] <exec> 08└─n/t
[20:53:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kell [292] (Score:2) 02Hmmm - 06Australian Census: Hacked or Just Ill-Prepared? - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:53:43] <exec> 08└─Sounds more like a 'Denial of Bad Service' to me.
[20:54:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:State vs. Federal - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 695 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:54:04] <exec> 08└─news just posted today: http://www.wusa9.com [wusa9.com] read that and tell me with a straight face that you think the system can fix itself. we have 'asset forfeiture' that is LITERALLY highway robbery. we have co...
[20:54:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03http [1920] (Score:2) 02Scratching my head - 06Google Maps Accused of Deleting Palestine - But the Truth is More Complicated  - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:54:57] <exec> 08└─How is lebensraum complicated?
[20:55:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:100?! - 06Toshiba Envisions a 100 TB QLC SSD in the "Near Future" - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:55:46] <exec> 08└─If you divide 100TB by 4, you get 25TB in SLC mode. That is actually very close to the number you get when dividing the Seagate 60TB tech demo by 3 to get SLC mode.
[20:56:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Actual meaning vs random weirdness - 06Scientists Prolong Length of DMT Trips - 484 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:56:20] <exec> 08└─It is real in the sense that it is a structure that is there. Anyone who cares to look will see a structure there. Further, it is an existent structure that often triggers facial pattern recognition when viewed from a particular angle. That as opposed to a friend of mine who while under the influenc...
[20:56:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Actual meaning vs random weirdness - 06Scientists Prolong Length of DMT Trips - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:56:21] <exec> 08└─Further, it is an existent structure that often triggers facial pattern recognition when viewed from a particular angle.
[20:57:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Fact-based anti-distraction - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:57:34] <exec> 08└─Are you trying to pick at nits, suggesting that China, Russia, et al can't intercept plaintext SMTP sent through the internet at large - let alone break into a single internet-facing server - as a means to distract from the fact that Hillary Rodham Clinton can and should be charged for breaking fede...
[20:57:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Assange Has No Axe To Grind... - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:57:57] <exec> 08└─Logic and politics are not the same thing. Politics is the largest appeal to emotion and self referencing points of contention to make yourself believe you are in the right.
[20:58:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I always wondered why... - 06Meth Lab... in a Storm Sewer - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:58:44] <exec> 08└─This lab was found in a storm sewer (surface run off water, might contain some dirt). Not to be confused with a sanitary sewer (the shitty kind).
[20:59:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Scared some folks into pushing the button - 06Revealed: How a Weather Forecast in 1967 Stopped Nuclear War - 461 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:59:37] <exec> 08└─Wot? Some one thinks it is necessary to refute (or "repudiate", if you're Sarah Pallin) the charge that Trump has small hands? It this only because the charge was not tweeted? Everyone knows that Trump has small hands, and everyone knows what that means, and some Second Amendment people might be a...
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[21:53:37] <exec> 08└─Getting rewarded that much ought to attract the vultures, I mean the lawyers... Time to get some popcorn. > hoarding of serious flaws will have a deleterious effect on overall security for everyone Of course not, since Exodus will keep these under wraps, their suppliers will also not sell them to ot...
[21:53:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03julian [6003] (Score:3, Funny) 02Don't 0day me, bro! - 06$200,000 for a Serious iOS Bug? We'll Give You $500,000 - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:53:39] <exec> 08└─but [Exodus] only discloses after it has extracted the "maximum value for our customers."
[21:53:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02or you could take a salary - 06$200,000 for a Serious iOS Bug? We'll Give You $500,000 - 666 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:53:41] <exec> 08└─Winning the occasional big prize is not a sane way to earn a living. Just try getting a home loan with "sometimes I win prizes". Trying to support a family on that should be terrifying. Most of us would prefer a stable salary with benefits. As part of a team, you can specialize on sub-tasks of the p...
[21:53:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Hmmm - 06Australian Census: Hacked or Just Ill-Prepared? - 416 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:53:51] <exec> 08└─Talking about bad service: > "If we don't get an accurate snapshot on census night, we can't allocate resources properly." Really? Why is the census all on one night? I don't count if I'm competing in Rio, travelling for work, or just in the hospital sick? Does Australia collapse into the sea from a...
[21:53:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03gawdonblue [412] (Score:2) 02Distributed DOS? - 06Australian Census: Hacked or Just Ill-Prepared? - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:53:53] <exec> 08└─Prime Minister Turnbull - What does it mean by a distributed denial of service attack? ABS Head McCormack - It means that we have identified that attempted connections to the Census website were from many different places, Sir. Indeed, we have identified some connections as coming from as far away a...
[21:54:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Nonsense - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 1029 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:54:03] <exec> 08└─I bitch a lot about the federal government assuming powers that it rightfully doesn't have. But, in this case, I see "Federal Communications Commission" and I think they have the proper authority to define who can or cannot be an ISP. I don't believe that any state has the authority to ban a city fr...
[21:54:12] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] 02Re:State vs. Federal - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 862 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:54:12] <exec> 08└─bribes and kickbacks are the ONLY reason. no need for a 'study'. its as obvious as the noses on our faces. the fact that we are stuck with non-freedom based laws means we have lost the moral high ground and the prinicples the US were made on have all been sold out. shit like this makes me hope that...
[21:54:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Gravis [4596] 02Re:State vs. Federal - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 158 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:54:14] <exec> 08└─the fact that we are stuck with non-freedom based laws means we have lost the moral high ground and the prinicples the US were made on have all been sold out.
[21:54:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Seek immediate medical attention! - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:54:34] <exec> 08└─especially since the amateur lawyer in me believes the court decision was in error.
[21:55:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03korger [4465] (Score:4, Informative) 02The US is up to its antics, as usual - 06Google Maps Accused of Deleting Palestine - But the Truth is More Complicated  - 2386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:55:11] <exec> 08└─The US does not recognize Palestine, and the problem here is that an American firm is pushing this view on other countries who have a different world view. The US is so powerful that it always finds a way to promote its agenda and convert others. This must stop. I'm just reading the book "O Jerusale...
[21:55:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:looking through walls... in an emergency? - 06Here’s the Internal Presentation the FBI Uses to Train Surveillance Pilots - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:55:41] <exec> 08└─It still doesn't, mind you. Infrared will tell you the temperature of the wall, how much insulation you need for growing in your attic, and maybe whether the boat in your driveway has a warm body inside.
[21:56:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:DMT is interesting - 06Scientists Prolong Length of DMT Trips - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:56:21] <exec> 08└─Now, why would a *good* person have to experience that? Sounds like the kind of thing a serial murderer and rapist would be subject to...
[21:56:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Actual meaning vs random weirdness - 06Scientists Prolong Length of DMT Trips - 460 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:56:37] <exec> 08└─You feel a presence when experiencing sleep paralysis too. It just means more than only your visual system is effected, which makes sense since the think effecting you isn't being shown in through your eyes. There were probably a lot of other changes, but we simply notice visual things more. When yo...
[21:58:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the nightmarish online world of gang stalking - 06WikiLeaks Announces $20k Bounty For Murderer(s) of DNC Staffer - 1238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:58:08] <exec> 08└─As a psychotherapist who specializes in paranoid schizophrenia, I often advise my patients to go online to harmlessly work out their delusions concerning conspiracies. I find that it's a valuable adjunct to conventional therapy. Not only can it provide relief for the typical symptomatology, but it c...
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[22:53:33] <exec> 08└─I'm pretty sure that trying to sell the details on how to get through the castle's fortifications, using that crack in the seventh stone down in the corner, was grounds for head-on-a-pike, often proceeded by anesthesia-free dismemberment.
[22:53:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:or you could take a salary - 06$200,000 for a Serious iOS Bug? We'll Give You $500,000 - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:53:35] <exec> 08└─Some people prefer to live by their wits. Ask any commission sales person.
[22:53:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:or you could take a salary - 06$200,000 for a Serious iOS Bug? We'll Give You $500,000 - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:53:37] <exec> 08└─You can be a corporate whore and still live by your wits, in fact, it requires far less wits to advance as a corporate whore than to hustle for basic subsistence.
[22:53:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:or you could take a salary - 06$200,000 for a Serious iOS Bug? We'll Give You $500,000 - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:53:40] <exec> 08└─I heard from one of your guys that your employer is developing some rather interesting Cyberstalking Society Oppression Tools™. Unfortunately, until the Government lightens up on pot-smoking and occasional hard-drug usage with regard to security clearances, your potential talent pool is going to b...
[22:54:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nonsense - 06Appeals Court Rules the FCC Cannot Override State Laws Banning Municipal ISPs - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:54:05] <exec> 08└─I use my ISP to connect to websites outside my state to buy things. My ISP sells internet connectivity in multiple states. How the hell is this not covered by the interstate commerce law?
[22:55:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:[strike]haha oh wow[/strike] - 06Student Built Electric Racecar - Lithium Battery Fire in Hotel Room - 451 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:55:23] <exec> 08└─Submitter here (still posting as an AC). I was hoping that the SN editor would turn the two words between "[strike]are probably[/strike]" into strike-through font. They were included in the Google Translate output, but didn't make any sense. Maybe I should have just deleted them myself? Tried [s] an...
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[22:56:31] <exec> 08└─It is a slippery concept, but it's all we have. I would say that repeatability and commonality are two of the best indicators we have of objective reality. Ultimately, we cannot prove that anything is actually real in an absolute sense. We can only make a useful assumption. Keep in mind, it is impor...
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[23:53:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02... - 06DEA Mines Travel Records, Seizes Millions in Cash to "Feed the Monster" - 369 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:53:31] <exec> 08└─Sure a good portion of the people probably are running drug money, but Tillerson was found to be telling the truth yet "a small percentage of the funds should be forfeited." What a load of shit, same with the civil forfeiture crap. Our law enforcement has quite literally become a criminal enterprise...
[23:53:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02They won't be prosecuted... - 06DEA Mines Travel Records, Seizes Millions in Cash to "Feed the Monster" - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:53:33] <exec> 08└─This is an example of times when extra-judicial action needs to be taken to remind the judicial branch how quickly their mandate can be revoked... If the system isn't respected the system stops working. That means *BOTH* sides of the bench.
[23:53:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Agree with DEA - 06DEA Mines Travel Records, Seizes Millions in Cash to "Feed the Monster" - 1337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:53:35] <exec> 08└─This is one of the few instances where I (mostly) agree with the DEA's M.O. There are plenty of incidents where civil asset forfeiture is fucked up and highway robbery - municipal police departments holding assets without convictions, for example. A small-business owner who rightly believes that eve...
[23:53:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree with DEA - 06DEA Mines Travel Records, Seizes Millions in Cash to "Feed the Monster" - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:53:37] <exec> 08└─Does due process and innocent until proven guilty have no place anymore then?
[23:53:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Agree with DEA - 06DEA Mines Travel Records, Seizes Millions in Cash to "Feed the Monster" - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:53:40] <exec> 08└─If you are wronged by your civil asset forfeiture, then sue and make your suit and its circumstances public. Else If you are too poor to sue, make the circumstances public. Else be glad you're not rotting behind bars.
[23:53:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree with DEA - 06DEA Mines Travel Records, Seizes Millions in Cash to "Feed the Monster" - 697 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:53:42] <exec> 08└─I can't agree with that. Innocent until proven guilty isn't just a good idea. There are plenty of people who do carry decent sums of cash when travelling and for good reason. Do we really want law enforcement to become indistinguishable from the highwaymen of old? They're worse actually, if you mana...
[23:53:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Agree with DEA - 06DEA Mines Travel Records, Seizes Millions in Cash to "Feed the Monster" - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:53:44] <exec> 08└─" There are plenty of people who do carry decent sums of cash when travelling and for good reason. "
[23:53:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Luck be a mason, tonight! - 06DEA Mines Travel Records, Seizes Millions in Cash to "Feed the Monster" - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:53:46] <exec> 08└─Detective Richie Roberts: They don't want this to stop. It employs too many people. Cops, lawyers, judges, probation officers, prison guards... The day dope stops coming into this country, a hundred thousand people lose their jobs.
[23:53:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Something smells, but it ain't drugs - 06DEA Mines Travel Records, Seizes Millions in Cash to "Feed the Monster" - 584 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:53:48] <exec> 08└─"And a police dog smelled drugs on the cash." Fucking wow, now that's an incontrovertible proof of guilt. One, police dogs smell whatever their handlers tell them to smell. What about, say, some lab tests? Or maybe one of those $2 portable tests that detect breadcrumbs as marijuana. Even that is mor...
[23:53:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Something smells, but it ain't drugs - 06DEA Mines Travel Records, Seizes Millions in Cash to "Feed the Monster" - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:53:51] <exec> 08└─90 percent of U.S. bills carry traces of cocaine... http://www.cnn.com [cnn.com]
[23:54:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02not us - 06$200,000 for a Serious iOS Bug? We'll Give You $500,000 - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:54:04] <exec> 08└─Somebody else does development of the Cyberstalking Society Oppression Tools™. That kind of project is usually written in disturbing languages like Java, C#, Python, and other interpreted crap. It's sold to cops. It probably runs on Windows Vista. It's more soul-sucking than doing COBOL for Americ...
[23:54:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:not us - 06$200,000 for a Serious iOS Bug? We'll Give You $500,000 - 410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:54:06] <exec> 08└─If you consider transplanting individual blades of grass, sawing concrete with butter-knives, and matching and folding a mixed pile of 100 different pairs of socks "fun," then you should probably include a lot of masochism questions in your employment questionnaire. In fact, the first thing you shou...
[23:54:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Re:or you could take a salary - 06$200,000 for a Serious iOS Bug? We'll Give You $500,000 - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:54:08] <exec> 08└─It is for kids living in their parent's basement....
[23:54:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03archfeld [4650] (Score:2) 02Sell it to both ? - 06$200,000 for a Serious iOS Bug? We'll Give You $500,000 - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:54:10] <exec> 08└─Sell it to Exodus for the lump sum, wait about 14 days AFTER you get paid, then get a lawyer to submit the flaw to Apple and accept payment for you. Thus you can remain anonymous and hopefully safe from the hit squad Exodus might send after you :)
[23:54:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Tie Me Kangaroo Down, Sport! - 06Australian Census: Hacked or Just Ill-Prepared? - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:54:21] <exec> 08└─Play your didgeridoo, Blue Play your didgeridoo Ah, like, keep playin' 'til I shoot thru, Blue Play your didgeridoo Altogether now!
[23:54:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Re:Distributed DOS? - 06Australian Census: Hacked or Just Ill-Prepared? - 710 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:54:24] <exec> 08└─You jest, but it is technically true, a DDOS. The culprit is actuall the ABS or broadly the government themselves. Given they sent out brochures and ads to tell everyone to do it on the 9th of August and also did not clearly quell rumors (or perhaps they were the source of it) of fines will apply if...
[23:54:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Anonymous claims responsibility - 06Australian Census: Hacked or Just Ill-Prepared? - 1201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:54:27] <exec> 08└─Australia's federal government websites, including the census website, were hit by a cyberattack after supper on Tuesday and the hacking group Anonymous has claimed responsibility for the attack. Many federal employees also lost email service. The shutdowns were caused by a denial of service cyberat...
[23:56:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Security? - 06Toshiba Envisions a 100 TB QLC SSD in the "Near Future" - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:56:32] <exec> 08└─It would have 3GB/sec sequential read bandwidth and 1GB/sec sequential write bandwidth
[23:57:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:Other direction - 06Google Employees Enjoyed "Revolving Door" to White House Appointed Positions - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:57:30] <exec> 08└─How woul dyou feel about this if it were 1967, and AT&T were the subject, rather than Google?
[23:57:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:SIM writers - 06Thailand Plans to Track All SIM Cards Sold in the Country - 503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:57:43] <exec> 08└─Those would be illegal with a mandatory minimum sentence of a few years if rules are thought to be broken. The whole world is moving towards that hell. No one wants to be left behind. If you do not own a smart phone (while being able to afford it), or do not use facefuck etc, you're a fucking terror...