#comments | Logs for 2015-12-05

« return
[00:24:18] <exec_> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[00:24:19] <exec_> last cid = 271992
[00:25:09] <exec_> *** new comment: 03J053 [3532] (Score:3, Informative) 02TMT's Future - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 2457 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:25:10] <exec_> 08└─The question now is, what next? Here's some background. The University of Hawai'i (UH) and the Thirty Meter Telescope consortium (TMT) applied for a Conservation District Use Permit (CDUP) before the Hawai'i Board of land and natural Resources (BLNR) back in 2010. The CDUP is needed because the en...
[00:25:11] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:TMT's Future - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 728 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:25:12] <exec_> 08└─> I'm personally in favor of TMT, and completely against blocking a very interesting science facility because of "religion" If it helps, don't think of it as "religion" think of it as opposition to yet another manifestation of colonialism. 20 years ago the US formally apologized for illegally overt...
[00:25:14] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Scenery? WTF? - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 595 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:25:16] <exec_> 08└─> As for me, as big as these telescopes are, they look like ants on top of these massive volcanoes. Ruining the scenery is nonsense. A dismissive line like that really impugns the speaker's credibility. The scenery is something hotel operators care about, not the people who took this to court. One t...
[00:25:19] <exec_> *** new comment: 03J053 [3532] (Score:2) 02Re:Scenery? WTF? - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:25:21] <exec_> 08└─Exactly. When I first arrived in Hilo back in '79, I saw the observatories on top of Maunakea and my reaction was "Cool!".
[00:25:24] <exec_> *** new comment: 03ataradov [4776] (Score:1) 02Yes - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:25:25] <exec_> 08└─Let's stop science in favor of "spirituality".
[00:25:28] <exec_> *** new comment: 03tizan [3245] (Score:1) 02the fact - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 467 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:25:30] <exec_> 08└─There might have been mistakes and bad politics etc... But there are only 2 places in the world for such a telescope ... Hawaii and Chile So if we are to do such development and science we have to go to these two places... There are plenty of telescopes up there...so what is the issue: I think Hawai...
[00:25:33] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Murdoc [2518] (Score:2) 02I'm an entophobe... - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:25:35] <exec_> 08└─...you insensitive clod! As for me, as big as these telescopes are, they look like ants on top of these massive volcanoes. Ruining the scenery is nonsense.
[00:25:38] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Really? - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:25:40] <exec_> 08└─Lemme guess - as far as you know, anything a politician says is "doubletalk bullshit." Which is the kind of know-nothing bullshit that article explicitly debunks.
[00:25:43] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Really? - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:25:44] <exec_> 08└─This is absolutely true. It's using a real problem to divert money from our pockets to the pockets of Friends of Bill (clinton, that is), in order to get a freshly laundered kickback in their own bank accounts. The Clintons are grifters, through and through.
[00:25:48] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Internet makes the rich richer.... - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 491 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:25:50] <exec_> 08└─> Water whould be nice to have in 25years when it's all contaminated and cost as much as a Gallon of milk Do you have any evidence for systemic degradation in fresh water quality? Because my impression is that the EPA has been very successful at improving water quality to the point where all the rep...
[00:25:54] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Internet makes the rich richer.... - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:25:55] <exec_> 08└─Fix our roads, bridges, water and other services. Bridges are outdated. Water is being trashed by fracking. My car needs new shocks now.... dam potholes....
[00:25:59] <exec_> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Sounds like failure likely - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:26:00] <exec_> 08└─That bank will provide "up to an additional $225 billion in federally supported investment," according to the policy paper, by leveraging "the $25 billion in direct loans, loan guarantees, and other forms of credit enhancement."
[00:26:03] <exec_> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:3, Funny) 02Bucharest - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:26:05] <exec_> 08└─"Today, businesses, schools, and families in Bucharest, Romania, have access to much faster internet than most of the United States. That is unacceptable and has got to change," Sanders says in his policy position
[00:26:08] <exec_> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:For those not reading TFA - 06China Arrests Hackers for Breaching OPM Database - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:26:10] <exec_> 08└─The problem is we also make a leap forward in weapons technology. World War 2 produced a wide variety of mass-killing weapons.
[00:26:13] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Some call me Tim [5819] (Score:1) 02Re:For those not reading TFA - 06China Arrests Hackers for Breaching OPM Database - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:26:14] <exec_> 08└─At least the sharks will finally get phased plasma rifles. ;-)
[00:26:18] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:For those not reading TFA - 06China Arrests Hackers for Breaching OPM Database - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:26:19] <exec_> 08└─Hey guys let's have a WW3 with no nukes and no groin shots kthxbai
[00:26:22] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:IBM has a sandbox up, too - 06Apple Open-Sources Swift and Releases Linux Port - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:26:24] <exec_> 08└─func fibonacci(i: Int) -> Int { if i <= 2 { return 1 } else { return fibonacci(i - 1) + fibonacci(i - 2) } }
[00:26:27] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Soylent Career Advice - 06Apple Open-Sources Swift and Releases Linux Port - 492 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:26:28] <exec_> 08└─Is there much call for app development in the midwest? My understanding is that something like 95% of apps are money losers for the developers. If you are doing custom software for internal use by clients that might be a better market. But how many business clients would put their system on the ios...
[00:26:32] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02RMS craps all over calling it "open source" . . . - 06Apple Open-Sources Swift and Releases Linux Port - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:26:34] <exec_> 08└─in . . . 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . .
[00:26:38] <exec_> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:More articles like this, please! - 06 Raspberry Pi MicroSD Card Performance Comparison - 2015 - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:26:40] <exec_> 08└─maybe it's up to how the browser handles text-transform: uppercase;
[00:27:03] <exec_> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bradley13 [3053] 02So wrong... - 06Women Warriors Coming Soon to US Forces - 2039 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:27:03] <exec_> 08└─provided they can meet the physical requirements why couldn't they prove excellent soldiers The problem is, the US military is under tremendous pressure to get more women into positions for which they are physically unsuited. Women are allowed to put their gear on trucks during long training marches...
[00:27:27] <exec_> 08*** score 5 comment: 03hulk smash [5976] 02Please DONT! - 06Women Warriors Coming Soon to US Forces - 3070 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:27:27] <exec_> 08└─The female culture in the military is what causes the divide. Women that aren't grossly promiscuous within and out of the unit are shunned by the other girls that reside in the unit. The socio political factors involved with women being in the service alone creates a vast divide in overall military...
[00:27:34] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Eristone [4775] (Score:1) 02Re:Doesn't affect me - 06Women Warriors Coming Soon to US Forces - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:27:35] <exec_> 08└─You mean these promises [politifact.com] that he made?
[00:27:37] <exec_> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Doesn't affect me - 06Women Warriors Coming Soon to US Forces - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:27:38] <exec_> 08└─No matter what Obama said, liberals projected their wishful thinking on him and conservatives projected their nightmares on him.
[00:28:08] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How incredibly thick would you have to be? - 06How Mark Zuckerberg's Altruism Helps Himself - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:28:09] <exec_> 08└─No, he has a realistic world view and realizes that it is highly unlikely for someone to become a billionaire without being a greedy self-serving fuck. It's amazing how easily you're fooled by these "altruistic" antics.
[00:28:10] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How incredibly thick would you have to be? - 06How Mark Zuckerberg's Altruism Helps Himself - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:28:11] <exec_> 08└─> No, he has a realistic world view Labeling actions that don't conform to that cynicism as "stupid" isn't just being realistic, it is endorsing that self-interest as morally correct.
[00:28:44] <exec_> *** new comment: 03rleigh [4887] (Score:2) 02Re:Need more studies - 06Type 2 Diabetes Reversed by Losing Fat from Pancreas - 1141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:28:45] <exec_> 08└─Brown fat is primarily found on the upper back; not really around visceral organs--it's pretty much all white there. Since its purpose is heat generation, you wouldn't want it to occur internally anyway--it would cause heat shock and damage or even death! When it gets going it can put out some serio...
[00:29:21] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Praying for failure - 06Gaps in Advertising and PR Education Are Due to New Roles in Social Media, Study Finds - 581 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:29:21] <exec_> 08└─It's not just for the immediate sell. Repetitive advertising is all about image building and changing consumer attitudes that you can't do with one or two commercials. If you're a male aged, say, 15 to 25, when you go out to buy deodorant or "body spray" (I'd like them to be honest and call it perfu...
[00:29:44] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:All they gotta do - 06Europe Probe Tests Tech for Detecting Ripples in Space Time - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:29:46] <exec_> 08└─I've seen yo momma fart, them ass cheeks move pretty fast.
[00:30:00] <exec_> *** new comment: 03xav [5579] (Score:2) 02Re:Another conspiracy theory - 06Welcome to the Age of Shadowless Skyscrapers - 373 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:30:02] <exec_> 08└─Global warming is not directly due to sunlight but to infrared that can not go past the upper atmosphere and get reflected. The problem is not that we should capture sunlight but that we must allow infrared to escape Earth atmosphere. Maybe with global warming they should be trying to create more s...
[00:32:46] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Authority - 06Study Says Toxic Coworkers Undercut Groups in Destructive, Expensive Ways - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:32:47] <exec_> 08└─Which is why the article's focus is on identifying and avoiding hiring such people in the first place.
[00:33:27] <exec_> count new = 29
[00:33:28] <exec_> count top = 2
[00:33:29] <exec_> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[00:40:02] -!- cmn32480|away [cmn32480|away!~cmn32480@Soylent/Staff/Editor/cmn32480] has parted #comments
[01:24:18] <exec_> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[01:24:19] <exec_> last cid = 272024
[01:25:17] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Yes - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:25:19] <exec_> 08└─These Hawaiians don't want fugly buildings on the beautiful mountain that makes them feel good when they look at every day. Spirituality or not, they should have a say. It's simple respect, and really no different than not wanting people building stuff in the Grand Canyon or Yellowstone.
[01:25:22] <exec_> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02$1.5 billion - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:25:24] <exec_> 08└─Mars Science Laboratory cost just $2.5 billion. I bet we could robotically build an observatory on the far side of the moon for a similar sum and get better results than Hawaii/Chile scopes, even with fancy adaptive optics.
[01:25:41] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Internet speed - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 448 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:25:42] <exec_> 08└─I am an American. My house is 35 miles from Manhattan and my interned speed tops out at 5m (that's bit per sec) but averages at 3. I pay $59.95 for it and have no other alternatives. I am also Russian and my apartment over there has 7 broadband providers. The one I use offers 10-100m. I pay $4 per 2...
[01:25:44] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02this is good... maybe - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 579 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:25:46] <exec_> 08└─one thing we need in this country is to fix our crumbling infrastructure. i'm not talking about communications systems, i'm talking about actual the actual roads and bridges that we travel across. however, i am reluctant to say we should just build up information networks and give them to telecom co...
[01:26:46] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02The SDCC spec is, uh, interesting - 06 Raspberry Pi MicroSD Card Performance Comparison - 2015 - 1528 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:26:47] <exec_> 08└─Some 10-15 years ago I had to write an SDCC driver. Details are fuzzy, but for version 1.0 you had flowcharts on how to read/write/erase/etc. Violating the flowchart resulted in a timeout instead of an error more often than not. Then cards larger than what 1.0 could support came out and the flowchar...
[01:27:52] <exec_> 08*** score 5 comment: 03takyon [881] 02zuckbuttal - 06How Mark Zuckerberg's Altruism Helps Himself - 1369 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:27:53] <exec_> 08└─rebuttal from the zuck [marketwatch.com] FB post [facebook.com] The Chan Zuckerberg Initiative is structured as an LLC rather than a traditional foundation. This enables us to pursue our mission by funding non-profit organizations, making private investments and participating in policy debates -- i...
[01:30:22] <exec_> *** new comment: 03xav [5579] (Score:2) 02Re:Science - 06Researchers Confirm Humpty Dumpty Really Can't Be Put Together Again - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:30:23] <exec_> 08└─Stop speaking to yourself, please.
[01:30:32] <exec_> *** new comment: 03xav [5579] (Score:2) 02Re:I disagree. - 06Researchers Confirm Humpty Dumpty Really Can't Be Put Together Again - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:30:34] <exec_> 08└─I guess your bed sheet are soiled when you finally wake up.
[01:32:37] <exec_> count new = 7
[01:32:38] <exec_> count top = 1
[01:32:40] <exec_> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[02:24:18] <exec_> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[02:24:19] <exec_> last cid = 272032
[02:25:08] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02McDonald's taxes me twice - 06McDonald's Investigated for Avoiding European Taxes With Help From Luxembourg - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:25:08] <exec_> 08└─They charge sales tax on prepared food, which I don't think is fair. The second tax is what it does to my gastrointestinal tract, guaranteed explosive diarrhea every time I eat there.
[02:25:09] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:2) 02Re:McDonald's taxes me twice - 06McDonald's Investigated for Avoiding European Taxes With Help From Luxembourg - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:25:10] <exec_> 08└─You gotta admit, taking that shit feels so much better than the actual act of eating the McDonalds in the first place.
[02:25:13] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:McDonald's taxes me twice - 06McDonald's Investigated for Avoiding European Taxes With Help From Luxembourg - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:25:15] <exec_> 08└─It depends on if I make it to the toilet on time.
[02:25:18] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:McDonald's taxes me twice - 06McDonald's Investigated for Avoiding European Taxes With Help From Luxembourg - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:25:20] <exec_> 08└─That's because you have SJW hipster shit-for-stomach. No wonder you have "allergy" to gluten, peanuts, god-knows-what's-hip-now, and suffers asthma. But don't worry - natural selection will take its course.
[02:25:22] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:2) 02Say it ain't true! - 06McDonald's Investigated for Avoiding European Taxes With Help From Luxembourg - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:25:24] <exec_> 08└─A large corporation dodging taxes you say? In Luxembourg of all places? I don't believe it.
[02:25:27] <exec_> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Good for them - 06McDonald's Investigated for Avoiding European Taxes With Help From Luxembourg - 674 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:25:29] <exec_> 08└─Tax avoidance is legal [wikipedia.org] and I condone it, even though regimes like the U.S. want you to think no matter where you go, once you are theirs you owe them taxes for eternity. Less taxes means less funding for the killing machine, less blowback, less war on drugs, less of all sorts of crap...
[02:25:32] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good for them - 06McDonald's Investigated for Avoiding European Taxes With Help From Luxembourg - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:25:33] <exec_> 08└─Tax avoidance is more effective if you're a professional tap dancer. Those fuckers do whatever they please.
[02:25:37] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Sounds Delicious - 06McDonald's Investigated for Avoiding European Taxes With Help From Luxembourg - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:25:38] <exec_> 08└─The Tax-Free Luxemburger
[02:25:41] <exec_> *** new comment: 03J053 [3532] (Score:2) 02Re:TMT's Future - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:25:43] <exec_> 08└─"Maunakea" is not a typo - it is the official (and native-Hawai'ian approved" spelling.
[02:25:46] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the fact - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:25:47] <exec_> 08└─There's a better place than both of those... About 100 miles straight up↑
[02:25:51] <exec_> *** new comment: 03J053 [3532] (Score:2) 02Re:$1.5 billion - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 620 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:25:52] <exec_> 08└─Sure - the dark side of the Moon would be a great place - as is Earth orbit (in response to comment #272037 above) - except when the facilities need maintenance. Then, it is very expensive. It's also difficult to put a telescope with a 30m diameter mirror into orbit (or onto the Moon) - if you wante...
[02:25:55] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:$1.5 billion - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:25:57] <exec_> 08└─The mirror in Hubble wasn't replaced. They added smaller optics later in the path that corrected the mistake in the big primary mirror.
[02:26:00] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:$1.5 billion - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 2129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:26:02] <exec_> 08└─You'd think that, but there are two things you want out of a telescope: sensitivity and resolution. While the atmosphere causes problems with resolution that we're working on fixing with adaptive optics, there's no substitute for mirror area when it comes to sensitivity. With area comes weight, and...
[02:26:05] <exec_> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Really? - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:26:07] <exec_> 08└─Of course Congress will have no problem authorizing what Hillary proposes. Unlike when Obama was elected/reelected, the Republican's are lining up in their support for her. It will definitely be smooth sailing for her.
[02:26:10] <exec_> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score:2) 02Crying indian - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:26:11] <exec_> 08└─You mean this one: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[02:26:14] <exec_> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02What about the unseen costs? - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:26:16] <exec_> 08└─It was demonstrated a generation ago that this kind of thing is a bad idea. [fee.org]
[02:26:37] <exec_> *** new comment: 03fleg [128] (Score:2) 02Re:Soylent Career Advice - 06Apple Open-Sources Swift and Releases Linux Port - 581 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:26:37] <exec_> 08└─>Surely Swift is less a nightmare than Objective-C havent done obj-c but i've had to learn to read a fair bit of it when looking up ways to do stuff in swift (cos the examples and tutorials hadnt been updated for swift yet). so on that basis, yes, it is nowhere near the eye-bleeding nightmare the ob...
[02:26:45] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:RMS craps all over calling it "open source" - 06Apple Open-Sources Swift and Releases Linux Port - 434 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:26:46] <exec_> 08└─Not true. The true difference between open source and Free Software is a philosophical one. There are no licences that satisfy the Open Source Definition that do not satisfy the FSF as being Free Software. The principal difference between the two movements is philosophical: the Open Source movement...
[02:26:48] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:RMS craps all over calling it "open source" . . - 06Apple Open-Sources Swift and Releases Linux Port - 619 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:26:50] <exec_> 08└─RMS will definitely call it Free Software though and this development will probably please him greatly. It's under the Apache 2.0 License which is blessed by the FSF [gnu.org]. This is a free software license, compatible with version 3 of the GNU GPL. Please note that this license is not compatible...
[02:26:53] <exec_> *** new comment: 03fleg [128] (Score:2) 02linux port - 06Apple Open-Sources Swift and Releases Linux Port - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:26:55] <exec_> 08└─anyone tried it yet? would be interested to hear what its like. from installation on up.
[02:27:22] <exec_> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] 02Re:Pain Tolerance - 06Women Warriors Coming Soon to US Forces - 415 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:27:23] <exec_> 08└─I'd agree, as long as the physical requirements are the same for them as for the men. But they're not. Pretty much any male soldier could pick up a 200lb injured brother and carry him half a mile if necessary. Pretty much no female soldiers could. There are damned good reasons women have not been al...
[02:27:38] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:So wrong... - 06Women Warriors Coming Soon to US Forces - 821 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:27:38] <exec_> 08└─Israel has some unique experiences and views on women in the military. They don't put women in the same front line units as they put men, generally speaking. We would do well to follow their example. http://www.washingtontimes.com
[02:27:40] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Pain Tolerance - 06Women Warriors Coming Soon to US Forces - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:27:41] <exec_> 08└─Actually, I have to agree - generally speaking, women deal better with pain than men do. But, of course, that isn't true of ALL men or all women.
[02:28:17] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:zuckbuttal - 06How Mark Zuckerberg's Altruism Helps Himself - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:28:18] <exec_> 08└─Oooh-hoo-hoo! More! More shinies!!!! Weeee!
[02:28:40] <exec_> *** new comment: 03PocketSizeSUn [5340] (Score:1) 02Re:$45 billion - 06How Mark Zuckerberg's Altruism Helps Himself - 918 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:28:41] <exec_> 08└─I agree to a point. I do think that starting a "charitable" LLC and widely publicizing it does shelter the worst of the effects of dumping stock (presumably a chunk roughly equivalent to the tax burden on each transfer will be dumped to the open market on of each transfer to the LLC, where as direct...
[02:29:20] <exec_> *** new comment: 03PocketSizeSUn [5340] (Score:1) 02Re:Need more studies - 06Type 2 Diabetes Reversed by Losing Fat from Pancreas - 574 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:29:21] <exec_> 08└─Not exercise so much as removing sugar from your diet. Fat + Sugar is a deadly combo. If you can't remove sugar removing fat helps (hence all the low fat mantra) but it can only delay the inevitable. However removing all forms sugar (natural, processed, honey, glucose, fructose, corn syrup, raw, ......
[02:33:05] <exec_> count new = 25
[02:33:06] <exec_> count top = 1
[02:33:07] <exec_> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[03:24:18] <exec_> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[03:24:19] <exec_> last cid = 272058
[03:25:17] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:McDonald's taxes me twice - 06McDonald's Investigated for Avoiding European Taxes With Help From Luxembourg - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:25:18] <exec_> 08└─Building up a resistance to bad shit isn't something to be proud of, unless you are persevering through hardship. The human body and its microbial zoo are great at adapting, still doesn't make McDs healthy or good in any way, or you some strong example of evolution.
[03:25:19] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:McDonald's taxes me twice - 06McDonald's Investigated for Avoiding European Taxes With Help From Luxembourg - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:25:21] <exec_> 08└─"Whaddya mean you feel bad after eating a big chunk of asbestos? You're just a SJW hipster!!"
[03:25:24] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Good for them - 06McDonald's Investigated for Avoiding European Taxes With Help From Luxembourg - 857 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:25:25] <exec_> 08└─Well, we seem to be diametrically opposed in our view on taxes. McDonald's profits quite a lot on our city, state, and federal highway systems. I expect McDonald's to pay for the wear and tear on those systems. McDonald's profits from our electrical infrastructure. I expect McDonald's to pay for som...
[03:25:34] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:TMT's Future - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:25:35] <exec_> 08└─I guess things have changed in the last two years.
[03:25:46] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:2) 02"we forgot to grease palms!" - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 2343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:25:47] <exec_> 08└─Here's the problem: The TMT folks just went and followed the procedures. They got a permit and figured "Hey, we're good." I'm from Detroit, so I know better. ;) The reality is, if you want to get something done, and there's entrenched interests, you have to pay them. That's just the reality of doing...
[03:25:49] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"we forgot to grease palms!" - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 462 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:25:52] <exec_> 08└─You are a dick. Seriously, it takes a huge amount of dickhood to utterly dismiss people whom you've never met and don't know a thing about as looking for nothing more than a payout. Many of the people involved in this lawsuit are dirt poor because their ancestors got royally screwed out of their pro...
[03:26:12] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What about the unseen costs? - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 590 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:26:12] <exec_> 08└─Perhaps better would be to hold the companies that we ALREADY PAID to do the work to task... I know of several major ones that have 0 plans to do anything. It usually takes someone talking about municipal or google rocking in for them to do anything. The only reason the phone provider in my area is...
[03:26:13] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Hummm.... - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:26:14] <exec_> 08└─So that's how they are going to pay the TelCos for MetaSnoopy work. You did'nt think they would gather and log all that data for free did you. TaxPayer
[03:26:30] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:For those not reading TFA - 06China Arrests Hackers for Breaching OPM Database - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:26:31] <exec_> 08└─Only trouble is world war with nuclear weapons can result in the complete annihilation of the human species. I don't see how total annihilation would be good for our species' long term prospects!
[03:28:38] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:zuckbuttal - 06How Mark Zuckerberg's Altruism Helps Himself - 1238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:28:38] <exec_> 08└─Its called being poor on paper. The way an accountant explained it to me. You look like you are making 18k a year. But your company makes 200k a year. But all the taxes are held inside the LLC. You think they cant setup a double Irish with a twist? Your company still has to pay taxes on *new* money....
[03:32:52] <exec_> count new = 10
[03:32:53] <exec_> count top = 0
[03:32:54] <exec_> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[04:24:18] <exec_> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[04:24:19] <exec_> last cid = 272069
[04:25:12] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Star Trek New World Economy is here! - 06EFF Launches Security Vulnerability Disclosure Program for "Let's Encrypt", "HTTPS Everywhere", Etc. - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:25:12] <exec_> 08└─I can pay my rent with free T-shirts, bro!!!!1
[04:25:29] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good for them - 06McDonald's Investigated for Avoiding European Taxes With Help From Luxembourg - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:25:29] <exec_> 08└─You want a place with no taxes and no interference for the invisible hand? Move to Somalia today!
[04:25:31] <exec_> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Sorry, Doesn't Scan - 06McDonald's Investigated for Avoiding European Taxes With Help From Luxembourg - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:25:33] <exec_> 08└─"We deserve a break today So we'll get up and get away to Luxembourg."
[04:25:42] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:TMT's Future - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 807 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:25:44] <exec_> 08└─> If it helps, don't think of it as "religion" think of it as opposition to yet another manifestation of colonialism. No, let's think of it for what it is, leveraging religious superstition for extortion. Like it or not, Hawaii is a state no matter how it came into existence, and the science reserve...
[04:27:01] <exec_> *** new comment: 03linuxrocks123 [2557] (Score:2) 02Re:Soylent Career Advice - 06Apple Open-Sources Swift and Releases Linux Port - 522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:27:02] <exec_> 08└─I doubt it will replace C++, and I certainly hope not. The raw power and runtime efficiency you can get out of C++ isn't matched by anything else out there, and it's getting better with each new standard, yet the changes are evolutionary, and done in a way where the language maintains its maturity....
[04:28:40] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Doesn't affect me - 06Women Warriors Coming Soon to US Forces - 655 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:28:41] <exec_> 08└─I think people already know but the media and campaign marketing scare people into choosing the "side" that isn't evil. Far too many people choose a candidate because they are not-Bush/not-Obama or just because they identify as Democrat/Republican. If people actually voted for the candidates they th...
[04:30:31] <exec_> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Praying for failure - 06Gaps in Advertising and PR Education Are Due to New Roles in Social Media, Study Finds - 1179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:30:32] <exec_> 08└─All true. But there is no trick here. Everyone knows the purpose of advertising. You don't want to stink and sweat all over your shirt. You were going to buy a antiperspirant or deodorant any way. So the manufactures try to convince you to buy their brand rather than just take 3 showers a day. You a...
[04:33:12] <exec_> count new = 7
[04:33:13] <exec_> count top = 0
[04:33:13] <exec_> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[05:24:18] <exec_> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[05:24:19] <exec_> last cid = 272081
[05:26:01] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Have you spent time on the Big Island of Hawaii? - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 736 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:26:01] <exec_> 08└─These people making dismissive comments about the protesters blocking science, I bet most of them have never been to the big island of Hawaii. Maybe some have traveled to Oahu, Maui, or Kauai on vacation. But the big island is different - it doesn't have the big cities or the mansions or golf resort...
[05:26:02] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Have you spent time on the Big Island of Hawaii - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:26:03] <exec_> 08└─You are really laying it on pretty thick. I was born on the big island and know plenty of people who live in mansions and there is definitely no shortage of golf resorts.
[05:26:06] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Have you spent time on the Big Island of Hawaii - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:26:08] <exec_> 08└─Are you kidding? I drove all around that island to visit the volcano and I saw shacks and lava fields and macademia fields everywhere I looked. OK, Kona has an interesting strip, but even that wasn't luxury stuff.
[05:26:20] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Really? - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:26:21] <exec_> 08└─> It's using a real problem to divert money from our pockets to the pockets of Friends of Bill You've been scored informative for that. Which friend is a beneficiary of this proposal? You do know what you are talking about, right? You wouldn't just be indulging yourself, right?
[05:27:20] <exec_> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:RMS craps all over calling it "open source" . . - 06Apple Open-Sources Swift and Releases Linux Port - 682 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:27:21] <exec_> 08└─Except that Swift only compiles for Apple's proprietary OSes, which makes it kind of pointless. It's like open source coffee beans, except these coffee beans can only be used in Apple's proprietary iCoffeeMakers. Kind of makes the open source or freedom aspect a moot point, don't you think? "Here's...
[05:27:43] <exec_> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Pointless optimization - 06 Raspberry Pi MicroSD Card Performance Comparison - 2015 - 542 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:27:44] <exec_> 08└─Well, that's kind of a pointless optimization, isn't it? There aren't very many cases where you would want to increase your Raspberry Pi's IO performance to and from an SD card. I mean, first of all if you're doing IO intensive operations you wouldn't want to do that on the SD card, which will die q...
[05:28:04] <exec_> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:Pain Tolerance - 06Women Warriors Coming Soon to US Forces - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:28:05] <exec_> 08└─Hey, gender equality. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Maybe gender equality proponents, er, I mean feminists, will learn a lesson? Next step, women need to sign up for the draft.
[05:32:39] <exec_> count new = 7
[05:32:40] <exec_> count top = 0
[05:32:40] <exec_> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[06:24:18] <exec_> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[06:24:19] <exec_> last cid = 272089
[06:25:12] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Imagine the possibilities! - 06Combining Graphene With "White Graphene" (Boron Nitride) for Flexible Electronics - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:25:12] <exec_> 08└─ObamaCare mandates every person receive a flexible and transparent anal implant to record any suspicious activity. Your ass could be a terrorist and you might not even know it yet. Clench your sphincter with pride if you treasure freedom.
[06:25:42] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good for them - 06McDonald's Investigated for Avoiding European Taxes With Help From Luxembourg - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:25:43] <exec_> 08└─They are simply following the laws the governments have written. What do you want them to do, voluntarily pay more taxes than the law requires?
[06:26:00] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yes - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:26:01] <exec_> 08└─If they want to look at something pretty, they can turn around and look at some of the best beaches in the world. And yes, people do build things in the Grand Canyon area and Yellowstone. If we have to respect everyone's aesthetic tastes before progress is made, we would have never made it to the st...
[06:26:03] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the fact - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:26:05] <exec_> 08└─If you're willing to cover the extra costs involved.
[06:26:07] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the fact - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:26:09] <exec_> 08└─More importantly, the local populating has elected to fight 1.5 billion dollars in development. With such prosperity, perhaps we could reallocate their federal tax funds to build out NASA instead. Let them be unemployed in their spiritual paradise.
[06:26:11] <exec_> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Covalent [43] 02"we forgot to grease palms!" - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 2343 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:26:12] <exec_> 08└─Here's the problem: The TMT folks just went and followed the procedures. They got a permit and figured "Hey, we're good." I'm from Detroit, so I know better. ;) The reality is, if you want to get something done, and there's entrenched interests, you have to pay them. That's just the reality of doing...
[06:26:15] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"we forgot to grease palms!" - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:26:17] <exec_> 08└─Many of the people involved in this lawsuit are dirt poor because their ancestors got royally screwed out of their property when the islands were illegally annexed...
[06:26:21] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Have you spent time on the Big Island of Hawaii - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:26:22] <exec_> 08└─Wow you really don't know when to stop lying. You can see the volcano from nearly everywhere. There is no "drove all around the island". Be within a few miles of the shoreline and you can see the friggin thing.
[06:26:26] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Have you spent time on the Big Island of Hawaii - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:26:28] <exec_> 08└─You go there and and set up camp and live for a number of years and work with the locals on what makes sense.
[06:26:30] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Really? - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:26:32] <exec_> 08└─Almost as if she is a career politician that has been making backdoor deals with everyone she could for the last fifteen years to ensure this victory.
[06:26:39] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Internet makes the rich richer.... - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:26:41] <exec_> 08└─The millennials realize where the pointy part of the screw is heading and stay in their parent's basements.
[06:26:42] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Internet makes the rich richer.... - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 2798 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:26:45] <exec_> 08└─The millennials became gender fascists and stay in their parent's basements posting diatribes on Tumblr. FTFY MY generation was fighting to save the rain forest, stop rivers from catching on fire due to rampant pollution, and fighting a government that thought the war on poverty meant you should dec...
[06:26:46] <exec_> 08*** score 5 comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] 02Bucharest - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 213 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:26:48] <exec_> 08└─"Today, businesses, schools, and families in Bucharest, Romania, have access to much faster internet than most of the United States. That is unacceptable and has got to change," Sanders says in his policy position
[06:26:58] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Just like Casablanca - 06China Arrests Hackers for Breaching OPM Database - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:27:00] <exec_> 08└─"I'm shocked, SHOCKED, to find that hacking is going on in here!"
[06:27:07] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:For those not reading TFA - 06China Arrests Hackers for Breaching OPM Database - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:27:09] <exec_> 08└─Doing nothing, overpopulating and global climate change is guaranteed to do the same. There might come a choice. Risk war, risk annihilation and salvation, or just let annihilation happen naturally.
[06:28:59] <exec_> *** new comment: 03hulk smash [5976] (Score:1) 02Re:Please DONT! - 06Women Warriors Coming Soon to US Forces - 1470 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:29:00] <exec_> 08└─When I mentioned deployment dodgers it wasn't gender specific. I actually feel that deployment dodging is largely a male problem, though, women do participate as well. IMO any woman willing to get pregnant to dodge a deployment has my blessing, may the next 18 years go smoothly. I even attributed th...
[06:30:12] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:Selection bias - 06Type 2 Diabetes Reversed by Losing Fat from Pancreas - 475 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:30:13] <exec_> 08└─Actually, that would be thyroid hormone, which also has a role in regulating the production and use of insulin. This is probably why with hypothyroidism, it can be difficult or even impossible to lose weight, even on a sharply calorie-restricted diet. If you are struggling with your weight, thyroid...
[06:30:37] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Paper voting systems can be better - 06Brazil Reverting to Paper Ballots Amid Budget Crisis - 922 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:30:38] <exec_> 08└─Perhaps you might get election results that are better for the country if votes are lost[1] due to illiteracy. After all you don't normally let dogs vote and I bet most dogs would sell their vote for a cookie ;). In my country we have people in the jungle who sell their votes for about ten dollars o...
[06:32:45] <exec_> count new = 16
[06:32:46] <exec_> count top = 2
[06:32:47] <exec_> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[07:24:18] <exec_> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[07:24:19] <exec_> last cid = 272108
[07:25:19] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Geotti [1146] (Score:2) 02Kinect One - 06MIT Researchers Improve Kinect 3D Imaging Resolution by 1,000 Times Using Polarization - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:25:19] <exec_> 08└─he researchers' experimental setup consisted of a Microsoft Kinect — which gauges depth using reflection time — with an ordinary polarizing photographic lens placed in front of its camera. [emphasis added]
[07:25:58] <exec_> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Re:TMT's Future - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:25:59] <exec_> 08└─Apologize for colonialism? Why not for electricity, medicine, education, sanitation and technology while you're at it?
[07:26:32] <exec_> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Really? - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:26:33] <exec_> 08└─I can't decide if you were completely whooshed or you were doubling down on my comment. The only thing easier for Hillary [vs Obama] is that there will be fewer questions about whether she is eligible to run for President, because she has two white American parents. It's also not quite as bad that s...
[07:26:34] <exec_> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Really? - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 584 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:26:35] <exec_> 08└─Note, this is my view of what the Republican party thinks of her, not my personal view of her. Like virtually every politician at that level, I'm sure she would make me want to go home and wash the slime off if I had to work with her for any length of time, but she'll be better at the job than whome...
[07:27:47] <exec_> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02web servers on release day - 06Apple Open-Sources Swift and Releases Linux Port - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:27:48] <exec_> 08└─at the time of writing, the servers at Swift.org are failing to live up to their name
[07:28:30] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Pain Tolerance - 06Women Warriors Coming Soon to US Forces - 2224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:28:31] <exec_> 08└─Not to mention there are already jobs in the military that women are better at so putting them on the front line is just stupid. For examples women are much better at language and make better translators, their bodies can take more g-forces so make better fighter pilots, are better at reading body l...
[07:28:32] <exec_> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:Pain Tolerance - 06Women Warriors Coming Soon to US Forces - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:28:33] <exec_> 08└─Next step, women need to sign up for the draft.
[07:28:40] <exec_> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:Pain Tolerance - 06Women Warriors Coming Soon to US Forces - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:28:41] <exec_> 08└─no, the one with more endurance and mental fortitude is the bigger asset. brute, physical strength means little when it comes to doing military stuff.
[07:30:43] <exec_> *** new comment: 03wirelessduck [3407] (Score:1) 02Re:Paper voting systems can be better - 06Brazil Reverting to Paper Ballots Amid Budget Crisis - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:30:44] <exec_> 08└─Yes in some less monitored areas people could swap the boxes or do other mischief, but not to scale of electronic votes unless you rig it completely Diebold-style - in which case it doesn't matter what system you use anyway.
[07:32:49] <exec_> count new = 9
[07:32:49] <exec_> count top = 0
[07:32:50] <exec_> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[08:24:18] <exec_> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[08:24:19] <exec_> last cid = 272118
[08:25:12] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Rich People gonna live FOREVER. - 0630 Genes Influence the Aging Process in Worms, Fish, and Mice - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:25:13] <exec_> 08└─Good news everyone. Congress has voted to send police door to door to shoot poor people. Poor people are only good at fucking and shitting out more poor people. Now rich people live forever so we don't need more people.
[08:25:14] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Rich People gonna live FOREVER. - 0630 Genes Influence the Aging Process in Worms, Fish, and Mice - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:15] <exec_> 08└─Wat u gonna do abut it
[08:26:07] <exec_> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02Re:TMT's Future - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:26:07] <exec_> 08└─I'd hate for the local folks who are interested in STEM careers to miss out on a great opportunity like this
[08:27:49] <exec_> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bryan [29] 02Re:another stupid lang - 06Apple Open-Sources Swift and Releases Linux Port - 178 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:27:49] <exec_> 08└─Comments in Swift [apple.com] follow the C style (/* multi-line*/) and C++ style (// single-line) form. The "#" is a type of preprocessor directive [apple.com] and not a comment.
[08:30:45] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re: GNU Free was Shut-down because it is insecure - 06Brazil Reverting to Paper Ballots Amid Budget Crisis - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:30:45] <exec_> 08└─I think the key difference here is the over the internet part.
[08:32:38] <exec_> count new = 4
[08:32:39] <exec_> count top = 1
[08:32:40] <exec_> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[09:24:19] <exec_> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[09:24:19] <exec_> last cid = 272125
[09:25:20] <exec_> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Rich People gonna live FOREVER. - 0630 Genes Influence the Aging Process in Worms, Fish, and Mice - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:25:20] <exec_> 08└─Besides having the police go to your house and shoot you?
[09:25:21] <exec_> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02Worms! - 0630 Genes Influence the Aging Process in Worms, Fish, and Mice - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:25:22] <exec_> 08└─https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKQmcfTJ1GA [youtube.com] So, how long before they put this in food to sell?
[09:25:29] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02I've been waiting - 06Combining Graphene With "White Graphene" (Boron Nitride) for Flexible Electronics - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:25:30] <exec_> 08└─"Imagine batteries, capacitors, solar cells, video screens and fuel cells as thin as a piece of paper,"
[09:26:16] <exec_> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:TMT's Future - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:26:17] <exec_> 08└─they will have less than 10 years of guaranteed operation - which seems like too little for a $1+ Billion telescope facility.
[09:26:22] <exec_> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:26:24] <exec_> 08└─They can't see the telescope from were they live. In fact you can't even see the mountain from most places on the Island. (Fire up street view if you don't believe me). Its not that they don't get a say. They want the final say, no point counting the votes, and to hell with every other opinion.
[09:32:31] <exec_> count new = 5
[09:32:32] <exec_> count top = 0
[09:32:32] <exec_> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[10:24:19] <exec_> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[10:24:19] <exec_> last cid = 272131
[10:25:12] <exec_> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02A quote from a delegate - 06The International Summit on Human Gene Editing - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:25:12] <exec_> 08└─"The dangers have been grossly over-exagerrated by the media," said Doctor Croctopus.
[10:28:54] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pain Tolerance - 06Women Warriors Coming Soon to US Forces - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:28:54] <exec_> 08└─Pretty much any male soldier could pick up a 200lb injured brother and carry him half a mile if necessary. Pretty much no female soldiers could.
[10:32:35] <exec_> count new = 2
[10:32:36] <exec_> count top = 0
[10:32:36] <exec_> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[11:24:19] <exec_> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[11:24:19] <exec_> last cid = 272133
[11:25:18] <exec_> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02whole genome - 06The International Summit on Human Gene Editing - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:25:19] <exec_> 08└─$1000 genome is here [veritasgenetics.com]. $100 next.
[11:25:50] <exec_> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02What about flaws in the concept? - 06EFF Launches Security Vulnerability Disclosure Program for "Let's Encrypt", "HTTPS Everywhere", Etc. - 847 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:25:51] <exec_> 08└─The problem with Lets Encrypt is that it allows anyone who has control over an IP address that corresponds to a DNS entry to get an SSL certificate for that domain that is valid for three months. That's going to make it incredibly easy to use botnets to harvest certificates - compromise any service...
[11:26:12] <exec_> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Eliminate corporate taxes? - 06McDonald's Investigated for Avoiding European Taxes With Help From Luxembourg - 1130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:26:13] <exec_> 08└─This may sound like a strange proposal, but I have read some fairly compelling arguments for just eliminating corporate taxes entirely. Corporations ultimately belong to individuals, either directly (as shareholders) or indirectly (through fund, retirement portfolios, etc.). Ultimately, individuals...
[11:27:18] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Internet speed - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:27:19] <exec_> 08└─I'm just outside of Springfield, MO. I get roughly 0.64 megabit/sec (yes, barely 80 kilobytes/sec) for $100 a month through my only option. The people extorting me are http://totalhighspeed.net [totalhighspeed.net] where you can verify the prices I pay so you don't feel so bad about what you've got~
[11:28:06] <exec_> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Soylent Career Advice - 06Apple Open-Sources Swift and Releases Linux Port - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:28:06] <exec_> 08└─Objective-C was horrifying.
[11:28:17] <exec_> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score:2) 02Re:RMS craps all over calling it "open source" . . - 06Apple Open-Sources Swift and Releases Linux Port - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:28:19] <exec_> 08└─Except that Swift only compiles for Apple's proprietary OSes, which makes it kind of pointless.
[11:28:21] <exec_> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Re:linux port - 06Apple Open-Sources Swift and Releases Linux Port - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:28:23] <exec_> 08└─from installation on up.
[11:28:27] <exec_> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Re:web servers on release day - 06Apple Open-Sources Swift and Releases Linux Port - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:28:29] <exec_> 08└─the downloads get faster as a new downloader joins the swarm
[11:30:16] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:zuckbuttal - 06How Mark Zuckerberg's Altruism Helps Himself - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:30:17] <exec_> 08└─and participating in policy debates
[11:32:22] <exec_> count new = 9
[11:32:23] <exec_> count top = 0
[11:32:24] <exec_> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[12:24:19] <exec_> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[12:24:19] <exec_> last cid = 272144
[12:31:00] <exec_> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ikanreed [3164] 02Re:Selection bias - 06Type 2 Diabetes Reversed by Losing Fat from Pancreas - 1036 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:31:00] <exec_> 08└─I read a medical paper about 6 months ago(it's really hard to find again, sorry) that examined long term trends in metabolic disorders(i.e. diabetes) in Austrian adults(I think N was 1000ish) over 5 years, grouping by starting and ending BMI ranges. The exact numbers are seared into my head because...
[12:32:12] <exec_> count new = 0
[12:32:13] <exec_> count top = 1
[12:32:14] <exec_> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[13:24:19] <exec_> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[13:24:19] <exec_> last cid = 272144
[13:25:27] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Aging - 06The International Summit on Human Gene Editing - 761 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:28] <exec_> 08└─Reversing aging, as desirable as it is for us as individuals, would be disastrous for us as a species, and likely every other species as well. At the very least we'd have to undertake many radical changes to avert disaster, most of them cutting across deeply embedded cultural and instinctive factors...
[13:25:29] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Aging - 06The International Summit on Human Gene Editing - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:25:30] <exec_> 08└─It would depend on how substantial the extension would be. The average lifespan has increased dramatically in recent times (on a genetic timescale) and I don't think that is responsible for too many of the world's problems.
[13:25:32] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Aging - 06The International Summit on Human Gene Editing - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:25:34] <exec_> 08└─For instance we'd have to implement an instant moratorium on having children; the urge to procreate is about the most fundamental instinct there is, so good luck with that one.
[13:26:23] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02McDonald's Dreck - 06McDonald's Investigated for Avoiding European Taxes With Help From Luxembourg - 686 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:24] <exec_> 08└─It seems to me that the quality of McDonald's has gotten much, much worse over time. When I was a kid it was worth eating, now, you'll feel much better bearing your hunger pangs than putting McDonald's in your system. Also, the cost of their food has risen dramatically. The very last time I went to...
[13:26:49] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'm an entophobe... - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:26:50] <exec_> 08└─I, for one, welcome our telescope overlords.
[13:27:16] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Really? - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 696 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:27:17] <exec_> 08└─No she wouldn't, my friend. The Clintons are desperately incompetent. What they are competent at, you don't want. We've all been sitting around for 3 years now pointing out that the NSA police state surveillance will be abused for political control. She is one who will do that. She has a lifetime of...
[13:27:23] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Really? - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 926 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:27:24] <exec_> 08└─The giant cable/DSL duopoly, just like the payout her husband backed in the 90s [pbs.org], and ironically damned near the exact same amount and just like that deal all we'll get for all that cash is a nice low res picture of the CEOs burning a c-note from their brand new mega-yacht while flipping us...
[13:27:26] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Really? - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 677 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:27:28] <exec_> 08└─You're not really getting how it works. Clintons use a crisis or problem to put together a big pile of money. If they have an FoB in mind already to give it to, they do. If they don't, they wait around until a new plutocrat decides to become a new FoB. That FoB gets the contract, then a fat check fr...
[13:28:49] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:More articles like this, please! - 06 Raspberry Pi MicroSD Card Performance Comparison - 2015 - 715 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:28:49] <exec_> 08└─Try Daily Rotation [dailyrotation.com] which is where I got every article I ever submitted, they even have a handy sort where you can just to filter by the latest trending topics like Encryption, Open Source, Apple/Google/MSFT, tablets, phones, etc. If you want a "one stop shop" for nerdy tech heavy...
[13:32:22] <exec_> count new = 9
[13:32:23] <exec_> count top = 0
[13:32:23] <exec_> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[14:24:19] <exec_> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[14:24:19] <exec_> last cid = 272153
[14:25:19] <exec_> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Now to the meat... - 06Nokia Sells "HERE" Mapping Business to German Automotive Consortium - 1292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:25:19] <exec_> 08└─I tried to keep the summary brief, as I wasn't sure if any of the details I'd have liked to add might be to biased. In the forum I think I won't restrain myself that much. So, some more background: Currently, HERE has a couple of high-profile customers as well in automotive as outside. E.g. Amazon,...
[14:25:36] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Aging - 06The International Summit on Human Gene Editing - 1139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:25:38] <exec_> 08└─I take it you've never seen Logan's Run or Soylent Green. Lengthening the life doesn't make much sense if the life was barely worth living to begin with. Focusing on quality of life makes far more sense than increasing the length of life. Just look around places where the elderly live, most of them...
[14:25:39] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Aging - 06The International Summit on Human Gene Editing - 866 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:25:41] <exec_> 08└─Logan's Run and Soylent Green, neither of which are exactly what we're talking about, nevertheless both represent a radical departure from societies of today, wouldn't you agree? It's not hard to imagine difficulties in going from what we have now to something like those in one generation, is it? An...
[14:25:44] <exec_> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Aging - 06The International Summit on Human Gene Editing - 3698 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:25:45] <exec_> 08└─Birth rates are declining across the planet, and effective anti-aging would keep people youthful, not just immortal. That means they can stay in the workforce (or on the farm) if needed. Although they will contend with or use robots. Crop yield per acre will continue to increase, as will solar power...
[14:25:51] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02No Mouse Aging Experiments - 0630 Genes Influence the Aging Process in Worms, Fish, and Mice - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:25:52] <exec_> 08└─The researchers do not validate their findings in mice with any ageing experiments. Worms are not mice so I'd wait until those experiments are done before extrapolating.
[14:26:12] <exec_> *** new comment: 03sigterm [849] (Score:1) 02Re:What about flaws in the concept? - 06EFF Launches Security Vulnerability Disclosure Program for "Let's Encrypt", "HTTPS Everywhere", Etc. - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:26:13] <exec_> 08└─>The problem with Lets Encrypt is that it allows anyone who has control over >an IP address that corresponds to a DNS entry to get an SSL certificate for >that domain that is valid for three months. That's pretty much how existing RA procedures work, except when you acquire a certificate from any ot...
[14:26:31] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good for them - 06McDonald's Investigated for Avoiding European Taxes With Help From Luxembourg - 502 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:26:32] <exec_> 08└─Of course not. But that's not what the GP poster is advocating. They seem to be advocating the creation of enough loopholes in the tax codes of the government to keep it from doing what it does. Shrink the government enough that we can drown it in the bathtub as the famous adage goes. What I have to...
[14:27:43] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Internet makes the rich richer.... - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 709 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:27:43] <exec_> 08└─Why do you think Trump has gotten such high numbers? He is the embodiment of the "I'm tired of this shit" sentiment.Right now people are worried about whether they will have a job next week, whether the bridge they drive across is gonna collapse, if they will be able to pay their bills, they REALLY...
[14:27:45] <exec_> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:Internet makes the rich richer.... - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:27:45] <exec_> 08└─she is a functionary of Empire, which just happens to be the route they chose to enrich themselves, ensconce a place at the elbow of the puppetmasters, and otherwise feather their nest by going full authoritarian in an attempt to salvage pre-Fall Empire... the clitons are willing tools of Empire, wo...
[14:27:48] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Internet makes the rich richer.... - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:27:50] <exec_> 08└─That's a florid way to put it, but, yes, that's it.
[14:29:06] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:More articles like this, please! - 06 Raspberry Pi MicroSD Card Performance Comparison - 2015 - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:29:06] <exec_> 08└─Thanks, HairyFeet.
[14:32:24] <exec_> count new = 11
[14:32:25] <exec_> count top = 0
[14:32:25] <exec_> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[15:24:19] <exec_> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[15:24:19] <exec_> last cid = 272166
[15:25:22] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02they dont last - 06150-year-old Map Reveals that Beaver Dams can Last Centuries - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:22] <exec_> 08└─the title seems a bit deceptive because like it says in the summary, the beaver dams do not last 150 years on their own. however, it is interesting that beavers manage to maintain and rebuild these dams over so many generations
[15:25:29] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Now to the meat... - 06Nokia Sells "HERE" Mapping Business to German Automotive Consortium - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:25:31] <exec_> 08└─Yeah, better brush up that CV. The car manufacturers are going to ruin the whole fucking thing with the same methods they've been using all along. Fucking expenssive GPS system options that never get updated. I'll just use my phone or my outdoors GPS.
[15:25:33] <exec_> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Now to the meat... - 06Nokia Sells "HERE" Mapping Business to German Automotive Consortium - 1040 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:25:35] <exec_> 08└─Actually I feel much safer due to that deal. For Nokia, we didn't fit to their portfolio anymore. Uber is IMO not yet experienced in this large-scale-operations and is not a company I'd like to work for, anyway. I would have felt really uncertain being bought by them. Automotive seems to see us as a...
[15:25:37] <exec_> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Now to the meat... - 06Nokia Sells "HERE" Mapping Business to German Automotive Consortium - 556 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:25:39] <exec_> 08└─BTW: Regarding using your phone: HERE maps for Android and iOS received a lot of praise by users. Map data can be updated frequently as well. Also I'd expect cars to be connected to the internet in the near future, which would probably solve the update of the map data for inbuilt GPS units. Last but...
[15:25:42] <exec_> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Golden age began - 06Single Organic Molecule can be Altered in a Targeted Manner using a Single Electron - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:44] <exec_> 08└─The organic molecule is thought to potentially replace conventional transistors.
[15:25:53] <exec_> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Aging - 06The International Summit on Human Gene Editing - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:25:54] <exec_> 08└─Lengthening the life doesn't make much sense if the life was barely worth living to begin with. Focusing on quality of life makes far more sense than increasing the length of life. Just look around places where the elderly live, most of them are deteriorating to the point where adding an extra 20 ye...
[15:26:19] <exec_> *** new comment: 03moondoctor [2963] (Score:2) 02Re:Kinect One - 06MIT Researchers Improve Kinect 3D Imaging Resolution by 1,000 Times Using Polarization - 454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:26:20] <exec_> 08└─Yep, got me drooling. I do some crude scans for modeling and hobby CNC machining with an original Kinect. Been thinking about grabbing a few more for a little array. This would be so much better! If the implementation is simple enough It would be revolutionary. Sounds like a couple polarising filter...
[15:26:21] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Kinect One - 06MIT Researchers Improve Kinect 3D Imaging Resolution by 1,000 Times Using Polarization - 500 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:26:22] <exec_> 08└─I have another 1000 reasons not to let one into my home, I guess. Not sure why this has to be so much better, but I remember there were problems with it detecting tall house plants as unauthorized people watching a pay-per-view. Perhaps this helps better identify people in HD for better tracking. Al...
[15:26:49] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Good for them - 06McDonald's Investigated for Avoiding European Taxes With Help From Luxembourg - 776 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:26:50] <exec_> 08└─You seem to have a somewhat simplistic view of government, and you believe government to be equally simple. Government didn't just write those laws that the mega-corps are taking advantage of. Instead, the mega-corps PAID FOR those laws. It's called bribery, and that is an offense that is punishable...
[15:29:04] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:RMS craps all over calling it "open source" - 06Apple Open-Sources Swift and Releases Linux Port - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:29:04] <exec_> 08└─There are no licences that satisfy the Open Source Definition that do not satisfy the FSF as being Free Software.
[15:29:08] <exec_> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:RMS craps all over calling it "open source" . . - 06Apple Open-Sources Swift and Releases Linux Port - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:29:09] <exec_> 08└─Right, but you don't have the source for OSX, so the exercise is pointless. FOSS must exist throughout the entire chain, or you still don't have freedom. In fact, I will email RMS right now and confirm his position on this matter.
[15:29:13] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:web servers on release day - 06Apple Open-Sources Swift and Releases Linux Port - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:29:15] <exec_> 08└─I've been caught out in the past by a certain web-hosting package that has a "max-connections=10" default buried in one of the config files...
[15:32:19] <exec_> count new = 12
[15:32:19] <exec_> count top = 0
[15:32:20] <exec_> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[16:24:19] <exec_> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[16:24:19] <exec_> last cid = 272178
[16:25:14] <exec_> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Why? - 06World's First Washable Smartphone to Debut in Japan - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:15] <exec_> 08└─Who are these people who are so incapable of keeping a small metal-and-glass box clean? What kind of everyday dirt can't you mostly shift with a wet wipe, anyway? Are so many people accidentally drawing on their phones with permanent marker or dropping in buckets of engine oil that this needs to be...
[16:25:22] <exec_> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:they dont last - 06150-year-old Map Reveals that Beaver Dams can Last Centuries - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:25:23] <exec_> 08└─If a dam gets washed away, wouldn't the location still be a good place to build a dam for another family of beavers, even if it was years or decades later?
[16:25:33] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Now to the meat... - 06Nokia Sells "HERE" Mapping Business to German Automotive Consortium - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:25:34] <exec_> 08└─But now you have four different companies running the show instead of one, and three of them are in Germany, way off in a distant time zone. The fourth speaks a mixture of German, Finnish, and English. That could lead to paralysis by indecision and communication breakdown.
[16:25:41] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02not enough voltage! - 06Single Organic Molecule can be Altered in a Targeted Manner using a Single Electron - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:42] <exec_> 08└─can this research also generate maybe $32 so i can read it some more?
[16:25:55] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Aging - 06The International Summit on Human Gene Editing - 1042 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:25:56] <exec_> 08└─Of course I agree, I think purposefully killing large numbers of people because they've hit an arbitrary limit is a bad idea. Same goes for turning people into food because we need that to supplement the food we have as we've run the population up high enough to hit the carrying capacity. Both are a...
[16:25:58] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Aging - 06The International Summit on Human Gene Editing - 1240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:26:00] <exec_> 08└─[quote] It's not problematic if it isn't infringing on the liberties of others (forced sterilization, concentration camps). And yes, I'm assigning low or zero liberty to the embryo/fetus. Once your massively genetically altered embryo is born, then you can see to it that the child has an upbringing...
[16:26:03] <exec_> *** new comment: 03redneckmother [3597] (Score:1) 02Re:Aging - 06The International Summit on Human Gene Editing - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:26:05] <exec_> 08└─We could go a step further and create combinations of minds. 2 or more minds inhabiting one body.
[16:26:11] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"we're all broken" - 0630 Genes Influence the Aging Process in Worms, Fish, and Mice - 617 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:26:12] <exec_> 08└─"Influence only one of the 30 genes and the animals stay healthier and live longer" hmmm ... if both groups had exactly the same environment and input/food then "stay healthier" would imply that the normal fish/mice/worm is actually a bio-motor (or organism, duh) that doesn't work as well as the "mo...
[16:26:53] <exec_> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Good for them - 06McDonald's Investigated for Avoiding European Taxes With Help From Luxembourg - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:26:53] <exec_> 08└─Yes, most reasonable people are pretty much diametrically opposed to me. But it might be worth thinking about if you would accept slightly less quality in the systems you mentioned in exchange for eliminating the things I mentioned.
[16:26:54] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Good for them - 06McDonald's Investigated for Avoiding European Taxes With Help From Luxembourg - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:26:55] <exec_> 08└─So then, what would "slightly less quality" entail? Instead of a bridge falling into a river once every decade, we accept two each decade? Infrastructure is expensive, even if you settle for cheap. And, cheap costs lives. So, how many lives is it worth for Mickey D not to pay taxes? And, Monsanto, a...
[16:27:00] <exec_> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Good for them - 06McDonald's Investigated for Avoiding European Taxes With Help From Luxembourg - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:27:01] <exec_> 08└─That's why I don't think anybody should be granted the power to pass such laws. Then there's no reason to bribe anyone and McDonald's or whoever can just get back to making burgers and such.
[16:27:41] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Have you spent time on the Big Island of Hawaii - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:27:42] <exec_> 08└─You made it up, didn't you. About growing up on Hawaii. Didn't you, you little liar. You grew up in the suburbs of Indiana and that's where you still are, in the exact same house 25 years later.
[16:28:14] <exec_> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Internet makes the rich richer.... - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:28:14] <exec_> 08└─But this democracy has ceased to function and needs burning down.
[16:28:20] <exec_> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Internet speed - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:28:21] <exec_> 08└─http://totalhighspeed.com/services/residential [totalhighspeed.com] Ultimate $100.00/month 1024kbps (1Mbps) download. This plan is great for heavy gamers or lots of online data transfers. Custom Call for pricing 1536kbps (1.5Mbps) or higher download. Custom packages with speeds up to 300Mbps are av...
[16:29:45] <exec_> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:More articles like this, please! - 06 Raspberry Pi MicroSD Card Performance Comparison - 2015 - 1079 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:29:45] <exec_> 08└─My Pi usage is mostly headless server stuff, but I do run an X desktop on it and I actually develop some stuff in Qt Creator directly on the target Pi, so performance is ... marginal, and the difference between a Class 4 and a Class 10 card is relevant to me during development, not so much in deploy...
[16:32:33] <exec_> count new = 15
[16:32:33] <exec_> count top = 0
[16:32:34] <exec_> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[17:24:19] <exec_> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[17:24:20] <exec_> last cid = 272195
[17:25:16] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not sure 'double glazing is cost effective' - 06Building Retrofits Critical to Europe's Low-Carbon Pathway - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:25:17] <exec_> 08└─I am led to believe that the average uPVC replacement windows will *not* save enough energy over their comparatively short life time to pay for their installation. Obviously a no brainer to fit them to new buildings but not that straight forward for older ones
[17:25:18] <exec_> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02No brainer - 06Building Retrofits Critical to Europe's Low-Carbon Pathway - 676 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:25:19] <exec_> 08└─This is a no-brainer - in Europe housing is built to last, some for centuries. There is very few wooden houses, which is in direct contrast to North America. But even here in Canada, public utilities and governments run subsidies to retrofit lower income housing (generally old, as in 30+ year old -...
[17:25:26] <exec_> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:2) 02Re:Why? - 06World's First Washable Smartphone to Debut in Japan - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:25:27] <exec_> 08└─From the summary: The 21,600 yen ($175) gadget is mainly aimed at parents who want to keep their smartphones clean for their small children
[17:25:35] <exec_> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:they dont last - 06150-year-old Map Reveals that Beaver Dams can Last Centuries - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:25:36] <exec_> 08└─If a dam gets washed way that seems like maybe it was a poor place to put it. But it depends on how often the area floods, I suppose.
[17:25:38] <exec_> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score:2) 02Re:they dont last - 06150-year-old Map Reveals that Beaver Dams can Last Centuries - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:25:40] <exec_> 08└─The beavers will not remember. As long as the geographical shape of the land remains the same, beavers will continue to think it is a good place to build a dam.
[17:25:43] <exec_> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:2) 02Re:they dont last - 06150-year-old Map Reveals that Beaver Dams can Last Centuries - 553 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:25:45] <exec_> 08└─Designing something to last "forever" is a stupid idea and never works. A truly earthquake-proof building is not built to last forever, or to stay perfectly upright, for example. It's just dumb to try. You are much better of making something that is adaptable, can survive a vast range of movement, a...
[17:25:49] <exec_> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Hopefully it is HERE to stay - 06Nokia Sells "HERE" Mapping Business to German Automotive Consortium - 1290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:25:51] <exec_> 08└─HERE has a bunch of features that make it superior, such as the ability to navigate when there is no data connection. You know, when you are in the middle of nowhere and need navigation the most. Google seems to actively fight against this, as there used to be a way to download maps but removed it o...
[17:25:53] <exec_> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Hopefully it is HERE to stay - 06Nokia Sells "HERE" Mapping Business to German Automotive Consortium - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:25:54] <exec_> 08└─As an aside, while Google Maps is freely given away to users, it is quite expensive for companies to license. My small company has the regular google maps integrated into our website and we are looking to move away due to the exorbitant license fees when compared with competitors. I can't imagine ho...
[17:30:31] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pain Tolerance - 06Women Warriors Coming Soon to US Forces - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:30:32] <exec_> 08└─I always thought that excuse was BS. I have to sign up for the draft despite being exempt from combat MOSes. Sure, they will stick me in a hospital or give me the shit jobs no one wants (without pay, while everyone drafted getting regular pay AND combat pay) but I'm still exempt from combat.
[17:30:41] <exec_> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02Re:So wrong... - 06Women Warriors Coming Soon to US Forces - 1097 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:30:43] <exec_> 08└─The United States could always look to other countries' militaries where women have already been put into combat roles. Israel is one, so are France and Germany. There others, but of those three perhaps Israel is the best example because they're constantly fighting with everyone. But then, maybe it'...
[17:32:21] <exec_> count new = 9
[17:32:22] <exec_> count top = 1
[17:32:23] <exec_> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[18:24:19] <exec_> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[18:24:20] <exec_> last cid = 272204
[18:25:16] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No brainer - 06Building Retrofits Critical to Europe's Low-Carbon Pathway - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:25:16] <exec_> 08└─Depends on where you live as to whether double or triple pane windows are worth the investment too. Here in Florida, the tiny amount of savings will not pay for the windows for decades, and it doesn't increase the resale value enough to cover the expense of the upgrade either. Unless you live in an...
[18:25:17] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:No brainer - 06Building Retrofits Critical to Europe's Low-Carbon Pathway - 875 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:25:18] <exec_> 08└─Replacing your windows with triple-paned ones has a terrible ROI. They're so expensive and the resultant R-value is nothing to write home about. There are people who are working on transparent aerogels that will dramatically increase the R-value of single pane windows, but that's a long way off. Rig...
[18:25:26] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why? - 06World's First Washable Smartphone to Debut in Japan - 426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:25:28] <exec_> 08└─I guess it's probably not necessary in most cases. But I have absolutely no problem with anyone wanting to produce durable weather-proof electronics. You know in scifi movies where someone digs up a ship that's been buried for 500 years, then various systems start lighting up and calibrating when so...
[18:25:37] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:they dont last - 06150-year-old Map Reveals that Beaver Dams can Last Centuries - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:25:39] <exec_> 08└─If a dam gets washed away and there's nobody there to see it, is it still there? Schroedingers dam.
[18:25:40] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:they dont last - 06150-year-old Map Reveals that Beaver Dams can Last Centuries - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:25:43] <exec_> 08└─when it comes to data, making copies is not error proof. with hundreds of terabytes of data, the cloned data needs independent verification of some sort. I can certainly see the attraction in writing the data once in a permanent location...
[18:25:45] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:they dont last - 06150-year-old Map Reveals that Beaver Dams can Last Centuries - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:25:47] <exec_> 08└─Most modern data storage are essentially black boxes. You don't know if your computer is lying to you. I think long-term, basic computer code such as various firmware is going to have to be stored on microfiche or fuse-wire ROMs such that it is open to optical inspection.
[18:25:50] <exec_> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Beavers useful in flood control - 06150-year-old Map Reveals that Beaver Dams can Last Centuries - 1262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:51] <exec_> 08└─Beavers, turns out, are extremely useful creatures when it comes to flood control. Want a nice water retention pond that you can then drain via pipe? For example, via culvert under highway? 1. put a large PVC pipe in beaver and tie it down to bottom (like put a few rocks, so it doesn't float...
[18:25:55] <exec_> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Beavers useful in flood control - 06150-year-old Map Reveals that Beaver Dams can Last Centuries - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:25:56] <exec_> 08└─put a large PVC pipe in beaver
[18:26:00] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not only long lasting - 06150-year-old Map Reveals that Beaver Dams can Last Centuries - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:26:01] <exec_> 08└─Beaver dams can be huge. There is one (several?) in northern Canada that can be seen from space. Think about it. Space beavers!
[18:26:18] <exec_> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Aging - 06The International Summit on Human Gene Editing - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:26:19] <exec_> 08└─I think genetics and epigenetics will be mostly interim technologies like relays and vacuum tubes. I think most high-level players will abandon the flesh in the long run, with the possible exceptions of using flesh avatars for entertainment purposes.
[18:26:24] <exec_> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Aging - 06The International Summit on Human Gene Editing - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:26:25] <exec_> 08└─Reversing aging, as desirable as it is for us as individuals, would be disastrous for us as a species
[18:26:27] <exec_> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Re:Aging - 06The International Summit on Human Gene Editing - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:26:29] <exec_> 08└─Every human need and impact on the world would jump up an order of magnitude. I doubt any society on Earth would survive those kinds of shearing forces.
[18:26:31] <exec_> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Aging - 06The International Summit on Human Gene Editing - 743 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:26:33] <exec_> 08└─Those diseases are likely to be swept away around the same time aging is cured. For example, heart disease [sens.org]: The most well-known form of extracellular junk is beta-amyloid: the stifling, web-like material that forms plaques in the brains of patients with Alzheimer's disease, and also (more...
[18:27:23] <exec_> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Good for them - 06McDonald's Investigated for Avoiding European Taxes With Help From Luxembourg - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:27:23] <exec_> 08└─McDonald's profits quite a lot on our city, state, and federal highway systems. I expect McDonald's to pay for the wear and tear on those systems. McDonald's profits from our electrical infrastructure. I expect McDonald's to pay for some of that. McDonald's profits from our police forces. I expect...
[18:27:28] <exec_> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Re:Good for them - 06McDonald's Investigated for Avoiding European Taxes With Help From Luxembourg - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:27:30] <exec_> 08└─Less taxes means less funding for the killing machine, less blowback, less war on drugs, less of all sorts of crap.
[18:27:34] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:McDonald's Dreck - 06McDonald's Investigated for Avoiding European Taxes With Help From Luxembourg - 382 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:27:36] <exec_> 08└─Pro: 1. They serve excellent coffee 2. Their service is very fast, even compared to other FF restaurants. The staff usually looks engaged and focused, not walking around trying to kill time until their shift is over. 3. Most restaurants have restrooms, and the tables are kept reasonably clean 4. The...
[18:28:46] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Internet makes the rich richer.... - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:28:47] <exec_> 08└─As opposed to 99% of the population being ground down into nothing 24/7, 365? You're right, we are living in paradise. What was I thinking?
[18:28:48] <exec_> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Internet makes the rich richer.... - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:28:49] <exec_> 08└─The "greatest" generation also raised the baby boomers and failed to fix some of the worst government financial problems that exist today (Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid). They took their sugar at the expense of everyone who came after and had the first TV kids. The narrative of baby boomers...
[18:32:38] <exec_> count new = 18
[18:32:38] <exec_> count top = 0
[18:32:39] <exec_> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[19:24:19] <exec_> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[19:24:20] <exec_> last cid = 272222
[19:25:14] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Bad News for AVX3 - 06Intel Skylake CPUs Are Warping Under Heat Sink Mounting Pressure - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:25:15] <exec_> 08└─The most significant SIMD innovation of the decade will now be generally regarded as crap by association. AVX3 is crap! because Skylake is crap!
[19:25:16] <exec_> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Facts not in evidence - 06Intel Skylake CPUs Are Warping Under Heat Sink Mounting Pressure - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:25:17] <exec_> 08└─This just in from Intel... "The design specifications and guidelines for...using the LGA 1151 socket are unchanged... Intel can't comment on 3rd party designs...For questions about a specific cooling product we must defer to the manufacturer. And so it would appear this is an OEM 3rd party manufactu...
[19:25:19] <exec_> *** new comment: 03moondoctor [2963] (Score:2) 02Re:Facts not in evidence - 06Intel Skylake CPUs Are Warping Under Heat Sink Mounting Pressure - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:25:21] <exec_> 08└─What they are saying is that the coolers exceeded specs. Loosely: The old ones could handle more pressure, even though the pressure was not within spec. The new ones buckle under an over-spec load. After this statement it is now about whether the cooler folks were selling units that put pressure bey...
[19:25:24] <exec_> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Facts not in evidence - 06Intel Skylake CPUs Are Warping Under Heat Sink Mounting Pressure - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:25:26] <exec_> 08└─Intel can't comment on 3rd party designs or their adherence to the recommended design specifications.
[19:25:29] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02not just 3rd parties - 06Intel Skylake CPUs Are Warping Under Heat Sink Mounting Pressure - 501 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:25:30] <exec_> 08└─[quote]the 6th Gen Intel Core processor using the LGA 1151 socket are unchanged from previous generations[/quote] So intel is saying there was no change to specs, but their parts are wrapping and breaking. So, intel what did you change that makes these new chips out working specs? Worst pat is intel...
[19:25:34] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02My Rig is l33t0r than your rig - 06Intel Skylake CPUs Are Warping Under Heat Sink Mounting Pressure - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:25:35] <exec_> 08└─I'm so cool I don't need a heat sink when My Rig is cooled by the overwhelming coolness of my presence.
[19:25:38] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My Rig is l33t0r than your rig - 06Intel Skylake CPUs Are Warping Under Heat Sink Mounting Pressure - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:25:40] <exec_> 08└─you're alaskan for trouble
[19:25:43] <exec_> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Re:No brainer - 06Building Retrofits Critical to Europe's Low-Carbon Pathway - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:25:45] <exec_> 08└─Replacing your windows with triple-paned ones has a terrible ROI. They're so expensive and the resultant R-value is nothing to write home about.
[19:25:48] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Sealing the envelope - 06Building Retrofits Critical to Europe's Low-Carbon Pathway - 931 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:25:49] <exec_> 08└─The article is right about sealing the envelope of the house being highly cost effective. Whatever kind of heating and/or cooling you use, insulation will save you a lot of money and pay for itself in a couple years. Nowadays with spray-foam and blown-in insulation a contractor can pull up and get t...
[19:25:53] <exec_> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Sealing the envelope - 06Building Retrofits Critical to Europe's Low-Carbon Pathway - 787 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:25:54] <exec_> 08└─The problem is that most of these won't work in old building stock so typically found in older cities. In your typical euro-city third-floor walkup flat, you have no attic to insulate, you have a heat plant that is ancient, and not yours (landlords), you have no access to ground source heat pumps, y...
[19:25:57] <exec_> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Why? - 06World's First Washable Smartphone to Debut in Japan - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:26:00] <exec_> 08└─Telephone sanitation is important. https://collateraldamage.wordpress.com [wordpress.com]
[19:26:02] <exec_> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Why? - 06World's First Washable Smartphone to Debut in Japan - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:26:04] <exec_> 08└─So you've seen Stargate Atlantis too, huh?
[19:26:07] <exec_> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Why? - 06World's First Washable Smartphone to Debut in Japan - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:26:09] <exec_> 08└─Yeah, I also want a ZPM.
[19:26:12] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:2) 02Re:Why? - 06World's First Washable Smartphone to Debut in Japan - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:26:13] <exec_> 08└─> drawing on their phones with permanent marker or dropping in buckets of engine oil? Phone sex. Nobody wants to talk in the wet spot.
[19:26:17] <exec_> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:they dont last - 06150-year-old Map Reveals that Beaver Dams can Last Centuries - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:26:19] <exec_> 08└─Damn
[19:26:22] <exec_> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Buisy beavers don't maintain dams! - 06150-year-old Map Reveals that Beaver Dams can Last Centuries - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:23] <exec_> 08└─All a busy beaver does it to write a bunch of 1s to a tape and then stop! :-)
[19:26:26] <exec_> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Busy beavers don't maintain dams! - 06150-year-old Map Reveals that Beaver Dams can Last Centuries - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:26:28] <exec_> 08└─Err … s/Buisy/Busy/ Reminder to self: Don't forget to preview the title.
[19:26:31] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02beaver gen - 06150-year-old Map Reveals that Beaver Dams can Last Centuries - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:33] <exec_> 08└─i wonder if the europeans are wishing they still had some beaver gens in themselves .. right about now ^_^ maybe then europe will last another century
[19:26:36] <exec_> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Now to the meat... - 06Nokia Sells "HERE" Mapping Business to German Automotive Consortium - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:26:38] <exec_> 08└─Hardly. HERE already has long-term relationships to big customers in US and elsewhere, while the biggest office is in Berlin. Neither the English nor the German part of the communication should give us any headaches. BTW: In Berlin, I have colleagues of 40-50 different nations, so nearly all communi...
[19:27:48] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Good for them - 06McDonald's Investigated for Avoiding European Taxes With Help From Luxembourg - 629 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:27:49] <exec_> 08└─I can't - don't even want to - argue your point regarding the military industrial complex. But, really, that is a separate issue. Issue 1 is "ducking tax responsibility" Issue 2 is "wasting money on unnecessary defense spending" Issue 3 is "fraudulent military industrial complex billing" I can't sim...
[19:28:07] <exec_> 08*** score 5 comment: 03J053 [3532] 02TMT's Future - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 2457 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:28:07] <exec_> 08└─The question now is, what next? Here's some background. The University of Hawai'i (UH) and the Thirty Meter Telescope consortium (TMT) applied for a Conservation District Use Permit (CDUP) before the Hawai'i Board of land and natural Resources (BLNR) back in 2010. The CDUP is needed because the en...
[19:28:11] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:TMT's Future - 06Hawaiian Court Revokes Permit for Construction of Thirty-Meter-Telescope - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:28:12] <exec_> 08└─They have [hawaii.edu].
[19:29:14] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Internet makes the rich richer.... - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 1313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:29:15] <exec_> 08└─I lost any and all respect for Bernie when he cowered before Thug Lives Matter and let them shove him around like a little white bitch. When I saw that I knew he would be about as worthless in the office as Carter was and the LAST thing we need is another president with zero backbone. SJ twats c...
[19:29:22] <exec_> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Internet speed - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:29:23] <exec_> 08└─Invisible hand strikes again!
[19:29:25] <exec_> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:this is good... maybe - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:29:27] <exec_> 08└─i just want to stay away from the "socialize the costs, privatize the profits" business model. What, are you a pinko liberal hippy putin loving terrorist?
[19:32:48] <exec_> count new = 24
[19:32:48] <exec_> count top = 1
[19:32:49] <exec_> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[20:24:19] <exec_> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[20:24:20] <exec_> last cid = 272248
[20:25:20] <exec_> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Bad News for AVX3 - 06Intel Skylake CPUs Are Warping Under Heat Sink Mounting Pressure - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:25:21] <exec_> 08└─Intel ‘Skylake’ processors for PCs will not support AVX-512 instructions [kitguru.net] I'm pretty sure only Xeon and Xeon Phi support that anyway. And those chips sure as hell won't be warping.
[20:25:22] <exec_> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Bad News for AVX3 - 06Intel Skylake CPUs Are Warping Under Heat Sink Mounting Pressure - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:25:23] <exec_> 08└─Can someone explain why I might give a shit about AVX3? I've not had it all along, so I'm unlikely to miss it, because I don't even know what it is.
[20:25:26] <exec_> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Facts not in evidence - 06Intel Skylake CPUs Are Warping Under Heat Sink Mounting Pressure - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:25:28] <exec_> 08└─The old WHAT could handle the pressure? The problem is that the the coolers are deforming (and possibly breaking) the CPU chips. A close-up shot of a Skylake CPU sitting side-by-side with a Broadwell processor shows that the substrate is noticeably thinner on Skylake,
[20:25:30] <exec_> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Facts not in evidence - 06Intel Skylake CPUs Are Warping Under Heat Sink Mounting Pressure - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:25:32] <exec_> 08└─The specs from Intel are unchanged. There were some out of spec heatsinks that just happened to work OK with older CPUS. The new CPU is less forgiving of out of spec heatsinks but works fine with old heatsinks that are in spec. So it's the 3rd party's fault for having a heatsink that was never in sp...
[20:25:35] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:My Rig is l33t0r than your rig - 06Intel Skylake CPUs Are Warping Under Heat Sink Mounting Pressure - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:25:37] <exec_> 08└─So - I'll just wait until you are absent (not present and not president) to turn your computer on.
[20:25:40] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Previous generation coolers - 06Intel Skylake CPUs Are Warping Under Heat Sink Mounting Pressure - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:25:41] <exec_> 08└─Like this one [dickssportinggoods.com] might not work so well with Skylake.
[20:25:46] <exec_> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:No brainer - 06Building Retrofits Critical to Europe's Low-Carbon Pathway - 918 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:25:47] <exec_> 08└─Wait, you seem to be mixing and matching numbers from single pane (which, unfortunately are still quite common in the US) with those of double and triple pane. You've totally glossed over the cost issue. Going to triple pane is usually not cost effective vs going to Double Pane. In cold regions, su...
[20:25:49] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Sealing the envelope - 06Building Retrofits Critical to Europe's Low-Carbon Pathway - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:25:51] <exec_> 08└─I did predicate what I said upon "if you own your own home," but you're right it's a dilemma for the apartment dweller anywhere, in the US or Europe. The benefits of retrofitting are there for an apartment building owner too, especially since you can't just eschew the heat, by law, the way you could...
[20:26:00] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why? - 06World's First Washable Smartphone to Debut in Japan - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:26:01] <exec_> 08└─This is actually quite common in SF. My first thought was Planet of the Vampires from 1965 http://www.imdb.com [imdb.com] which many believe influenced Alien.
[20:26:13] <exec_> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:they dont last - 06150-year-old Map Reveals that Beaver Dams can Last Centuries - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:26:15] <exec_> 08└─The beavers will not remember.
[20:26:24] <exec_> *** new comment: 03snufu [5855] (Score:2) 02Nice beaver! - 06150-year-old Map Reveals that Beaver Dams can Last Centuries - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:26:26] <exec_> 08└─Thank you, I just had it stuffed.
[20:28:18] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Re:McDonald's Dreck - 06McDonald's Investigated for Avoiding European Taxes With Help From Luxembourg - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:28:18] <exec_> 08└─The experience of going to a McDonald's has just started to seem so bizarre to me. They seem to be putting money into really polishing the layouts and design of the stores and they have a menu that seems relatively current. But it's the same shitty food. You're in a place that they are trying to mak...
[20:29:14] <exec_> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Really? - 06Hillary Clinton Proposes $275 Billion in Infrastructure Spending, Including Broadband - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:29:15] <exec_> 08└─Right. Unfortunately, any Republican who wins the primary will do the same or worse. Right now, she is the least-worst person from the field of people who have a reasonable chance of actually winning the job.
[20:32:52] <exec_> count new = 13
[20:32:52] <exec_> count top = 0
[20:32:53] <exec_> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[21:24:19] <exec_> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[21:24:20] <exec_> last cid = 272262
[21:25:14] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Skip phys.org - 06Even More Detailed Pictures (and Video) of Pluto - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:25:14] <exec_> 08└─Go directly to NASA: http://www.nasa.gov [nasa.gov] javascript required, though. Worth seeing.
[21:25:15] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Why "Unusual" ? - 06Even More Detailed Pictures (and Video) of Pluto - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:25:16] <exec_> 08└─The pictures were obtained with an unusual observing mode; instead of working in the usual "point and shoot," the LORRI camera snapped pictures every three seconds
[21:25:19] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Appalbarry [66] (Score:2) 02Gobsmacked and Amazed - 06Even More Detailed Pictures (and Video) of Pluto - 477 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:25:21] <exec_> 08└─I grew up reading Heinlein and Asimov, and remember Shepard, Glenn, and the Gemini and Apollo missions. I am truly amazed that we are sending back pictures from a planet which, when I was a kid, was only visible as a tiny point of light if you could look under exactly the right conditions. In genera...
[21:25:26] <exec_> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Re:Bad News for AVX3 - 06Intel Skylake CPUs Are Warping Under Heat Sink Mounting Pressure - 1432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:25:28] <exec_> 08└─AVX is a series of SIMD instruction set extensions, similar to SSE or MMX or 3DNow. AVX and AVX2 generally just extended SSE from 128-bit to 256-bit operation. AVX was introduced with Sandy Bridge ("second generation i7"), AVX2 was introduced with Haswell ("fourth generation i7"). They're fairly wel...
[21:25:31] <exec_> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Facts not in evidence - 06Intel Skylake CPUs Are Warping Under Heat Sink Mounting Pressure - 919 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:25:33] <exec_> 08└─The heat sink makers relied on undocumented behaviour (the processor being able to stand a larger force than specified) which changed for the newer processors. Any heat sink for the old processor that was manufactured to spec should work for the new processor as well. Let me make a car analogy. Inte...
[21:25:38] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Username [4557] (Score:2) 02Re:Previous generation coolers - 06Intel Skylake CPUs Are Warping Under Heat Sink Mounting Pressure - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:25:40] <exec_> 08└─That one might actually work better. Fill it with mineral oil, and submerge the motherboard. Bonus points for a CRAY style waterfall.
[21:25:42] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Thinner substrate - 06Intel Skylake CPUs Are Warping Under Heat Sink Mounting Pressure - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:25:44] <exec_> 08└─If you look at a Broadwell and Skylake chip next to one another the Skylake has a significantly thinner substrate. So, no, it cannot handle as much load from a cooler. It is a sign of the times. These things are getting smaller and more delicate. [pic of the thinner waffer]-->http://images.anandtech...
[21:26:07] <exec_> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Why? - 06World's First Washable Smartphone to Debut in Japan - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:26:08] <exec_> 08└─Theme is common enough that (unsurprisingly), it even has an extensive tvtropes article. WARNING: TV TROPES LINK. do not click. I accidentally have 9 tabs open already. http://tvtropes.org [tvtropes.org] -parent AC
[21:26:33] <exec_> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02"Beaver District" - 06150-year-old Map Reveals that Beaver Dams can Last Centuries - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:26:33] <exec_> 08└─That's why I live in Portland.
[21:26:48] <exec_> *** new comment: 03quixote [4355] (Score:2) 02What's the implication for HERE on phones? - 06Nokia Sells "HERE" Mapping Business to German Automotive Consortium - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:26:48] <exec_> 08└─Samsung's Tizen Z3 phone (which I just bought W00T! but not arrived yet so only a small woot) has (had?) HERE included. Will it continue to be included? Or are the new owners likely to pull it? Or what? What does this actually mean for users?
[21:30:54] <exec_> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score:2) 02Re:RMS craps all over calling it "open source" . . - 06Apple Open-Sources Swift and Releases Linux Port - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:30:55] <exec_> 08└─rms (it's lower case btw, always has been) himself spent many years working on free software to run on proprietary OSs, I think he would be surprised to hear that it was pointless or that the users of the software didn't have freedom as a result.
[21:33:03] <exec_> count new = 11
[21:33:04] <exec_> count top = 0
[21:33:05] <exec_> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[22:27:07] -!- exec_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]