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[08:18:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Cowherd [3699] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Overpriced art project - 06Making the Censors Watch Paint Dry - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:18:26] <exec> 08└─This seems like an overpriced art project rather than making any kind of statement. Joke's not on BBFC - they get your money. It's not on the filmmaker - he gets credits for a "radical" art project. Joke's on the backers.
[08:18:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:3, Insightful) 02And the point is? - 06Making the Censors Watch Paint Dry - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:18:27] <exec> 08└─Or they'll just get ten censors to each watch half-hour. Which they could do in strictly-controlled five minutes slots, if necessary. They don't have to be instantaneous in their classification, it could takes months.
[08:18:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Censors' response: - 06Making the Censors Watch Paint Dry - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:18:29] <exec> 08└─"Doesn't matter, got paid."
[08:18:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03quadrox [315] (Score:2) 02Please spend your efforts on something useful - 06Making the Censors Watch Paint Dry - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:18:30] <exec> 08└─As others have pointed out, this will accomplish pretty much nothing at all. I like the spirit of it, but your effort would be far better spent elsewhere.
[08:18:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Get Paid To Watch Movies All Day! - 06Making the Censors Watch Paint Dry - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:18:32] <exec> 08└─BBFC, are they hiring?
[08:18:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02youtube poop - 06YouTube to Legally Protect Certain Clearly Fair Use Videos from Bogus DMCA Takedowns - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:18:40] <exec> 08└─Translation: if you have over 100,000 subs and make YouTube some ad money, maybe an employee will spend 5 minutes to review a fair use defense against a bogus DMCA.
[08:18:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Half-hearted - 06YouTube to Legally Protect Certain Clearly Fair Use Videos from Bogus DMCA Takedowns - 465 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:18:41] <exec> 08└─Not only the Han shoot first [youtube.com] is not included in the F(ine) List [youtube.com] (4 entries... so far... hope they won't stop here), but the clips on TFL are viewable still in US only. In other geos, you'll get something like This video is not available in your country due to a copyright...
[08:18:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03altanar [5612] (Score:1) 02Re:Half-hearted - 06YouTube to Legally Protect Certain Clearly Fair Use Videos from Bogus DMCA Takedowns - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:18:43] <exec> 08└─That mostly comes down to copyright law. What are the fair use policies in other countries? Just how much money do you expect YouTube to spend defending your video while rights holders file lawsuits in regions that don't respect the US's version of Fair Use?
[08:18:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02How much can Google afford? - 06YouTube to Legally Protect Certain Clearly Fair Use Videos from Bogus DMCA Takedowns - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:18:45] <exec> 08└─So the take-down mafia will just continue to flood Google with take down demands, and force google to decide each case, then focus their lawyers on the few that google chooses to protect. If they win one case, google's resolve may crumble.
[08:18:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Spam) 02Need use - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:18:52] <exec> 08└─Java multicore aim
[08:18:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02ArchLinux: We'll fuck your dogs for fun and profit - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:18:53] <exec> 08└─ArchLinux users are out of control!! [usatoday.com]
[08:18:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Spam) 02Use Java mulicore - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:18:55] <exec> 08└─Multicore
[08:18:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Spam) 02Hey this is relevant - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:18:57] <exec> 08└─They need Java multicore to catch bad net deals
[08:18:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Call a spade, a spade - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:18:58] <exec> 08└─standard Android analytics packages, which report statistics on usage patterns
[08:18:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Re:Call a spade, a spade - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:00] <exec> 08└─Never trust an ArchLinux user!!! [usatoday.com]
[08:19:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Call a spade, a spade - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:02] <exec> 08└─That was a bad example. They guy's surname is Bull, after all, and judging from the pic he does share a rebellious strand or two of DNA with his ancestors: " The Bulldog is a breed with characteristically wide head and shoulders along with a pronounced mandibular prognathism. "
[08:19:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:4, Touché) 02Re:Call a spade, a spade - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:04] <exec> 08└─Ethanol, I'd remind you not to feed the trolls, but then you' starve.
[08:19:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Call a spade, a spade - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 1732 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:06] <exec> 08└─AC nails it. When I call my wife from the car to see if I should stop at the grocery store on the way home, the ONLY flows of data should involve routing my conversation, and then the conversation itself. If I decide to play an online game from the phone, then I expect routing data to flow, and the...
[08:19:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Call a spade, a spade - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:07] <exec> 08└─AC nails it. When I call my wife from the car to see if I should stop at the grocery store on the way home, the ONLY flows of data should involve routing my conversation, and then the conversation itself. If I decide to play an online game from the phone, then I expect routing data to flow, and the...
[08:19:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Call a spade, a spade - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 962 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:09] <exec> 08└─Uh-huh - there's a lot going on, of course. But, the idea that a developer should have the privilege of secretly monitoring all that stuff that is going on is ludicrous. The idea that my weather app should be communicating with anything other than NOAA (or equivalent) is equally ludicrous. You are m...
[08:19:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Call a spade, a spade - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 1006 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:11] <exec> 08└─Yes, we are all in favor of fine-tuneable permissions. But your Weather app doesn't get its info from NOAA. It gets it from the app provider, or maybe Google, or Apple, depending on the phone. Accuweather, Weather.com, Weather Underground, etc. And, it has to know where you are to give you the corre...
[08:19:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Call a spade, a spade - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 571 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:13] <exec> 08└─But why does the weather app need to have access to my contacts list, camera, and microphone? I upgraded my phone about six months ago and this time, I've been evaluating the permissions requested against the utility of the app. Some random poker games wants to know everything and the kitchen sink?...
[08:19:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Call a spade, a spade - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:15] <exec> 08└─Exactly. People have been bitching about this for a long time. With Android 6, (marshmallow) Google has finally done what Androgen Mod has done earlier, and is allowing much finer grained permissions. See: https://www.android.com [android.com] http://www....
[08:19:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Call a spade, a spade - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 424 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:16] <exec> 08└─Actually, the weather app has no need to know where I am. I can set any number of locations - only one on a poorly designed app, maybe thousands on a really good app. If I want to know what the weather will be when I get home, I click "home". If I want the weather at work, I click "work". Or, "grand...
[08:19:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Call a spade, a spade - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:18] <exec> 08└─Sure, and most have a thing called "current location". But you are making my point for me. There are constant data-flows in any smartphone, not all of them mysterious.
[08:19:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Call a spade, a spade - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:20] <exec> 08└─"not all of them mysterious." So - because I know what some of the data flow is, I should just accept that all the data is benign. Sorry, that's not good enough. You don't have to be paranoid to understand that bad people have bad reasons to spy on you.
[08:19:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Call a spade, a spade - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:22] <exec> 08└─No one said you should accept all data flows. And I pointed out that Google is changing the permissions system to accommodate more control. So what, EXACTLY, is it that you want? And what are you going to do for a smartphone until your wish is granted?
[08:19:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Call a spade, a spade - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:23] <exec> 08└─You installed those applications on the phone, and you gave each app permission to periodically check in
[08:19:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Call a spade, a spade - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:25] <exec> 08└─he argument "well then don't use those things" is not a valid solution because the problem that the original AC refers to is that this has become the norm, and there effectively aren't any alternatives to it unless rolling your own apps.
[08:19:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02They lack observation skills - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 619 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:19:27] <exec> 08└─>Of those "covert" communications, roughly half appear to be initiated by standard Android analytics packages, which report statistics on usage patterns and program performance and are intended to help developers improve applications. So, in other words, this data is being used to inform the UX desi...
[08:19:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:They lack observation skills - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:29] <exec> 08└─IMO it is a necessary evil. The vast majority of users will not make constructive comments to improve the software; in the extreme case they will just say "this shit doesn't work" and never use it again. With UX logging, you can track when users have aborted an unsuccessful process, what the network...
[08:19:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:They lack observation skills - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:30] <exec> 08└─Evil is not necessary.
[08:19:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:They lack observation skills - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:32] <exec> 08└─"but monitoring what users are actually doing with apps is one of the best ways to figure out how to improve them." Markus agrees with you. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[08:19:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Disable the bloatware - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 912 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:19:34] <exec> 08└─On my last several phones, I found a rather large number of bloatware packages, many of which were installed by the manufacturer. (I did not get it from a carrier). Googleing around lead me to a list of bloatware that was safe to delete/disable. In addition to saving some data transmission, it save...
[08:19:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02fdroid much? - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:19:36] <exec> 08└─Cyanogenomod with no google Services plus Fdroid.
[08:19:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Spam) 02Re:fdroid much? - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:37] <exec> 08└─Imma gonna fuck your dog in the pee hole!!! -ArchLinux user
[08:19:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:fdroid much? - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:39] <exec> 08└─I made the mistake of including the google image in order to use maps, had to manually disable to many google services permanently because they would re-enable like zombies! Still couldn't permanently get rid of qscrilmsgtunnelservice.... Has full access to everything, disabling it has zero effect o...
[08:19:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:fdroid much? - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 443 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:41] <exec> 08└─You should "freeze" them instead of disable. Also, the RIL in qscrilmsgtunnelservice means "Radio Interface Layer", which means it directly accesses your phones modem, so it may be needed for operations like receiving phone calls or SMS/MMS messages. And here is a FLOSS replacement for Google's Netw...
[08:19:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Fitness cost - 06The End of Antibiotics - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:19:42] <exec> 08└─There's a fitness cost for multidrug resistance, so there won't be an end to antibiotics. Microorganisms have been producing antibiotics for a very long time and many bacteria are susceptible.
[08:19:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:Fitness cost - 06The End of Antibiotics - 2154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:44] <exec> 08└─Identifying the specific gene the bacteria uses (as the paper does) should probably be interpreted as a positive developement. When all the media in the world from CNN to RT seems to publish the same story from the same angle then something is seriously wrong. The fitness cost for bacterial antibiot...
[08:19:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Fitness cost - 06The End of Antibiotics - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:46] <exec> 08└─Identifying the specific gene the bacteria uses (as the paper does) should probably be interpreted as a positive developement.
[08:19:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:Fitness cost - 06The End of Antibiotics - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:47] <exec> 08└─Sorry I don't know/have no idea.
[08:19:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03unzombied [4572] (Score:3, Interesting) 02The Last Option isn't always the last option - 06The End of Antibiotics - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:19:49] <exec> 08└─Bleak for expensive new antibiotics, though the common bacteriophage [wikipedia.org] may become more popular outside Central Europe.
[08:19:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Insightful) 02biological warfare - 06The End of Antibiotics - 881 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:19:51] <exec> 08└─The war was started millions of years before humans came along, and it continues today. Mankind started a major revolution in the 19th century, but it certainly didn't end the war. We've had the upper hand for awhile, but the tides of war do change. That doesn't mean that antibiotics are going away....
[08:19:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1, Troll) 02Re:biological warfare - 06The End of Antibiotics - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:53] <exec> 08└─All the fuckers who lock themselves indoors, get their shots, and obsessively use hand-sanitizer wherever they go will be the first to drop like flies. The current order of things is unnatural. Let the cruel bitch Mother Nature reign!
[08:19:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:biological warfare - 06The End of Antibiotics - 442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:54] <exec> 08└─Can whoever misuses the troll moderation in some kind of pubertile vendetta against Ethanol-fueled please give it a rest? Troll moderatioin is not intended for displaying your hard core fascist intolerance & bigotry in action; we've got comments for that and you're as welcome to make actual comments...
[08:19:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03hankwang [100] (Score:1) 02Re:biological warfare - 06The End of Antibiotics - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:56] <exec> 08└─I didn't moderate the GP, but I do agree with the moderation. I don't need to see posts that refers to people as 'fuckers' and that tells them to die.
[08:19:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02java multicore intelligence - 06The End of Antibiotics - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:19:58] <exec> 08└─java would fix this. it has primitives.
[08:19:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Orig publication - 06The End of Antibiotics - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:19:59] <exec> 08└─in the Lancet [thelancet.com] - a little bit more than just the abstract for free, but the full text is paygated.
[08:20:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Orig publication - 06The End of Antibiotics - 1894 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:01] <exec> 08└─[Maybe others will do better but this is what I've got, also a big thank you to isostatic for submitting this story and saving me work, I'd much rather make a comment or two than write submissions, so much easier for me at least :D ]. There's also a press release [medicalxpress.com] that is quite go...
[08:20:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Appalbarry [66] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Ob Python - 06Google Refuses to Give Up On Google+ - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:20:02] <exec> 08└─Google+ isn't dead, it's just resting.... https://youtu.be [youtu.be]
[08:20:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:4, Informative) 02Same as ever - 06Google Refuses to Give Up On Google+ - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:20:04] <exec> 08└─It's always been about interests and communities. They seem to be stripping out a bunch of features people don't use much, including a few I use frequently. I quite like Google+ ... it has a *vastly* lower idiot factor than FaceBook and is a great place for guitar and photography groups, etc.
[08:20:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Same as ever - 06Google Refuses to Give Up On Google+ - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:07] <exec> 08└─I quite like Google+ ... it has a *vastly* lower idiot factor than FaceBook and is a great place for guitar and photography groups, etc.
[08:20:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Same as ever - 06Google Refuses to Give Up On Google+ - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:08] <exec> 08└─I like how it's organized for the most part. It actually is quite similar to usenet except you can get a feed from all groups, post to multiples, etc. Maybe a bit more like Reddit that way. One thing I'd like that they don't have is to be able to do set operations on circles, as in "I want to post t...
[08:20:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2, Insightful) 02but I don't want a fast consistent experience - 06Google Refuses to Give Up On Google+ - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:20:10] <exec> 08└─what I want is email and web search. That's it.
[08:20:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:but I don't want a fast consistent experience - 06Google Refuses to Give Up On Google+ - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:12] <exec> 08└─Don't you have that?
[08:20:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Re:but I don't want a fast consistent experience - 06Google Refuses to Give Up On Google+ - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:13] <exec> 08└─So long as you use a non-Google e-mail service and a non-Google search engine, Google Plus won't interfere.
[08:20:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Useless trash - 06Google Refuses to Give Up On Google+ - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:20:15] <exec> 08└─And I refuse to use it, as well as other forms of Fecal Media. It's all just a useless hive of idiocy designed to get suckers to divulge more information about themselves so that it can be monetized to the fullest extent by corporate scum. Everyone should refuse to be part of this nonsense.
[08:20:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Useless trash - 06Google Refuses to Give Up On Google+ - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:17] <exec> 08└─Plus the comments don't properly nest and thread.
[08:20:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02If they're getting desperate ... - 06Google Refuses to Give Up On Google+ - 653 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:20:18] <exec> 08└─This could be a great opportunity: Come up with your dream list for a social network site -- real privacy options, ability to export your data, browser-side encryption so only the encrypted content is ever stored on the servers, broad interface customization, etc. List all the nightmares and peeves...
[08:20:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:If they're getting desperate ... - 06Google Refuses to Give Up On Google+ - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:20] <exec> 08└─I like it. But...The Profit step...? Don't see Google doing that encryption bit. When all your content is encrypted with a key they don't have, they can't sell you. You can't sell just a box-o-bits to retailers you know. Remember, you ARE the product.
[08:20:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:If they're getting desperate ... - 06Google Refuses to Give Up On Google+ - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:22] <exec> 08└─Why not just leave Google out of this?
[08:20:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:If they're getting desperate ... - 06Google Refuses to Give Up On Google+ - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:23] <exec> 08└─Isn't that Diaspora? As much as I like the idea, it's not ding very well. Too bad, it's a great idea.
[08:20:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If they're getting desperate ... - 06Google Refuses to Give Up On Google+ - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:25] <exec> 08└─I've heard lots of criticisms about the name, plus market share of FB. People don't want to be pioneers, people want to be sheep cause that's where all the other sheep are...
[08:20:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03ticho [89] (Score:2) 02Re:If they're getting desperate ... - 06Google Refuses to Give Up On Google+ - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:27] <exec> 08└─And friendica, and thematrix, and redmatrixproject, and gnu social... I am sure I am missing a few. There has been a lot of "facebook killer" attempts, and they are all crap. Maybe it's the whole idea of fb-like social networks that is crap.
[08:20:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02just stop - 06Google Refuses to Give Up On Google+ - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:20:29] <exec> 08└─http://www.quickmeme.com/img/7c/7cff27cdd57ceaf4efab439394c212520adea20eb11f746b32abd96f932a6bab.jpg [quickmeme.com]
[08:20:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Need use java - 06Google Refuses to Give Up On Google+ - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:20:30] <exec> 08└─Multicore
[08:20:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02self driving cars - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:20:32] <exec> 08└─will use java multicore intelligence . java works fine, ppl.
[08:20:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Let the dead bury their dead - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:20:34] <exec> 08└─People claim and enforce a monopoly on the use of force in the region and use it to grant monopolies on other services. The free market as always treats it as damage and routes around it. Plans disrupted as usual. Thank God.
[08:20:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Let the dead bury their dead - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:35] <exec> 08└─The monopoly comes with regulations for all parties' safety. Uber &co have not been willing to enforce all regulations, because they happen to cost money. In the end, the people on the ground (drivers, passengers and people living in the area) stand to lose when the events which triggered each regul...
[08:20:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Let the dead bury their dead - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:37] <exec> 08└─Are Uber drivers with app-using customers and customer ratings more or less likely to be killed than cabbies?
[08:20:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Let the dead bury their dead - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 594 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:39] <exec> 08└─>Are Uber drivers with app-using customers and customer ratings more or less likely to be killed than cabbies? Unknown, and that's what bothers people. Personally, I'd feel almost as safe stepping into an Uber or Lyft car today (with my cellphone) as I used to feel getting into licensed cabs back in...
[08:20:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Let the dead bury their dead - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 1134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:41] <exec> 08└─So all the city need do is tell the cab companies to go ahead and use an app for dispatching. Problem solved? The Technology of medallions was set up to build trust in the taxi system, which NYC desperately needs. The new technology puts more control in the hands of the customer. The new technology...
[08:20:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Let the dead bury their dead - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 513 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:42] <exec> 08└─Not quite the same. The "medallions" allowed the taxi fleets to cruise the streets and pick up people hailing a cab. All fine if you were in an area where a taxi could be found. If you called for a cab you could wait up to an hour before one showed. Uber can't pick up random people off the streets....
[08:20:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Let the dead bury their dead - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:44] <exec> 08└─So not quite the same job.
[08:20:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Let the dead bury their dead - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:45] <exec> 08└─I don't think the "protection from robbers" ever was much of a factor, if you can procure a big yellow car - how hard would it be to forge a medallion? And, robbers in NYC have many many other ways to get at people besides tricking them into a cab.
[08:20:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Let the dead bury their dead - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 629 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:47] <exec> 08└─To be fair: Taxis have to have the medallion physically present on the hood, have their cab numbers visibly mounted on the roof and doors, *and* require special Taxi license plates. You might be able to forge all of the above, but all it takes is one NYPD officer checking the plate to get busted. Ai...
[08:20:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Let the dead bury their dead - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:49] <exec> 08└─Medallions were set up to prevent overcrowding of the roads - and in the process they created a market of scarcity, which is what drove the value so high.
[08:20:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Let the dead bury their dead - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:50] <exec> 08└─It's the public's safety from the drivers, not the drivers' safety. And the fact that there are star-ratings doesn't impact that at all. Because those are always reactionary. It's similar to why we require auto insurance.
[08:20:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02Re:Let the dead bury their dead - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:52] <exec> 08└─Takyon asks a question and gets modded disagree. How in the fuck can you disagree with a question? Some dumbfuck taxi driver mod this shit or what? Sorry, dumbest mod I've seen in a long time. Modding up just because this is fucked.
[08:20:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Disagree) 02Re:Let the dead bury their dead - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:54] <exec> 08└─There are a LOT of modding violations happening lately. Disagree is the least of them.
[08:20:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Let the dead bury their dead - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:55] <exec> 08└─Dead men write no bad reviews.
[08:20:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Let the dead bury their dead - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:57] <exec> 08└─If you read the article and the comments, one of the medallion companies main complaints is that their drivers are leaving to drive for Uber. The people mainly being hurt are the rent-seeking medallion owners. There are having to pay their drivers decent wages and give them reasonable working condit...
[08:20:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Let the dead bury their dead - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:59] <exec> 08└─Welcome to the new boss, same as the old boss. 10 years from now: "the people mainly being hurt are the rent-seeking Uber owners."
[08:21:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Let the dead bury their dead - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:21:00] <exec> 08└─The monopoly comes with regulations for all parties' safety.
[08:21:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Let the dead bury their dead - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 624 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:21:02] <exec> 08└─Let's at least point the finger at the right place: the city created the monopoly in the first place by making medallions a very scare resource. Furthermore, you don't need a medallion if you're a "hire" service. Its only required in Manhattan to hail on the street for one, and livery/car hire just...
[08:21:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Spam) 02Java - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:21:04] <exec> 08└─Java multicore . I'm going to subscribe if I stop getting downcoted
[08:21:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Java - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:21:06] <exec> 08└─Too bad you can't be modded into oblivion. We don't need Oracle shills in here.
[08:21:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Sucks to be you, Cab Medallion Owners - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:21:07] <exec> 08└─Why don't you Cry Us a River [youtube.com].
[08:21:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Sucks to be you, Cab Medallion Owners - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:21:09] <exec> 08└─They've invested 10s of millions of dollars in this particular ponzi scheme - of course they're going to whip out the lawyers when it all goes south, their investors expect nothing less.
[08:21:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:Sucks to be you, Cab Medallion Owners - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:21:11] <exec> 08└─It's funny that when the story is about TPP or H1-B, then it seems that the government should recognize that people have invested hundreds of thousands of dollars and many years to get where they are, only to be threatened by newcomers who don't play by the rules.
[08:21:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Sucks to be you, Cab Medallion Owners - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:21:12] <exec> 08└─It's funny that when the story is about TPP or H1-B, then it seems that the government should recognize that people have invested hundreds of thousands of dollars and many years to get where they are, only to be threatened by newcomers who don't play by the rules.
[08:21:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Java - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:21:14] <exec> 08└─Uber run Java?
[08:21:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:3, Funny) 02Xena! - 06'Fourth Strand' of European Ancestry Originated With Hunter-gatherers Isolated by Ice Age - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:21:16] <exec> 08└─This led to a genetic mixture that resulted in the Yamnaya culture: horse-borne Steppe herders that swept into Western Europe around 5,000 years ago, arguably heralding the start of the Bronze Age and bringing with them metallurgy and animal herding skills
[08:21:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:0, Offtopic) 02Re:Xena! - 06'Fourth Strand' of European Ancestry Originated With Hunter-gatherers Isolated by Ice Age - 643 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:21:18] <exec> 08└─Imagine how stank women were back then, all those unbathed maidens and barbarianettes, back before soap and regular bathing were invented. If Xena came up to your face right now and told you, "I've decided that I am no longer a lesbian and want to mate with a male" you wouldn't take the opportunity....
[08:21:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Xena! - 06'Fourth Strand' of European Ancestry Originated With Hunter-gatherers Isolated by Ice Age - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:21:19] <exec> 08└─Don't know why this got an offtopic... The biggest problem with sex with ancients is that they all had VD, and assuming you went back then instead of them coming to now, it was quite often fatal and more often deeply unpleasant.
[08:21:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Xena! - 06'Fourth Strand' of European Ancestry Originated With Hunter-gatherers Isolated by Ice Age - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:21:21] <exec> 08└─Don't know why this got an offtopic...
[08:21:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Xena! - 06'Fourth Strand' of European Ancestry Originated With Hunter-gatherers Isolated by Ice Age - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:21:23] <exec> 08└─You would probably get used to the filth, and learn to enjoy it filthily. You can find out yourself when you invent a time machine and use technology to conquer the planet.
[08:21:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Xena! - 06'Fourth Strand' of European Ancestry Originated With Hunter-gatherers Isolated by Ice Age - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:21:24] <exec> 08└─but they were stank. Only men from India would have been man enough to handle them.
[08:21:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02I don't use it lightly - 06'Fourth Strand' of European Ancestry Originated With Hunter-gatherers Isolated by Ice Age - 5 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:21:26] <exec> 08└─Epic.
[08:21:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Seriously, Soylentils: - 06'Fourth Strand' of European Ancestry Originated With Hunter-gatherers Isolated by Ice Age - 817 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:21:28] <exec> 08└─The Xena reference was not meant to be off topic. But there is nothing that Eth cannot take off-topic, and predictably in a particular direction. At least there was no mention of armpits. But back to our topic, I was struck by the connection to Asia, and particularly to the Mummies of the Tarim Ba...
[08:21:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Seriously, Soylentils: - 06'Fourth Strand' of European Ancestry Originated With Hunter-gatherers Isolated by Ice Age - 628 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:21:30] <exec> 08└─Whatever you may find in history books about the origins of Bronze will be based on wild speculation, more likely wrong than right. They've got guys interpreting the neolithic cave paintings in France based on the acoustic properties of the locations that are painted, apparently (if you are lacking...
[08:21:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Seriously, Soylentils: - 06'Fourth Strand' of European Ancestry Originated With Hunter-gatherers Isolated by Ice Age - 1164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:21:32] <exec> 08└─Yes, isn't archaeology fun! If only we had Henry Jones on the case. Although, DNA evidence does thicken the plot, as it were. The interesting thing about the Tarim mummies is the suggestion that the secret of bronze could have been given to the Chinese by caucasians, as opposed to the Chinese figuri...
[08:21:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03spxero [3061] (Score:2) 02Easy Fix - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:21:34] <exec> 08└─Give anyone hired immunity known or unknown for copyright-infringement activities related to digital media and you'll be overfilled with applicants.
[08:21:34] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] 02Re:Easy Fix - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 210 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:21:35] <exec> 08└─Nope, that's not the reason. The reason is us tech types, as a general rule, do not like being spied on. We don't like it for the necessary background check and we don't especially want to help do it to others.
[08:21:36] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03bonehead [5931] 02Re:Easy Fix - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 192 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:21:37] <exec> 08└─Exactly. I'm qualified. But I'd rather work against them for free than work for them for any salary they might offer. I love my country, but my trust in this government is a thing of the past.
[08:21:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Easy Fix - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:21:38] <exec> 08└─yup. if you are like me you get ads that pop up about employment opportunities that are not even veiled; most are blocked but some make it through. it must be the demonstrated interests shown online.
[08:21:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Easy Fix - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 939 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:21:40] <exec> 08└─Yeah. For me it boils down to: which IT security person wants to raise their hand and say "I work for the US Gov"? My general impression now is in the IT security community when you say "I work for the US Gov" people will assume you're a bad/corrupt person or at least misguidedly working for the "Ev...
[08:21:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03spxero [3061] (Score:2) 02Re:Easy Fix - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 844 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:21:42] <exec> 08└─I agree with your point about being spied on, but investigation does not mean surveillance. An employee at a company I worked for passed away under unexplainable circumstances, and the county investigator had trouble even accessing the data on the devices without knowing the password. We wanted to h...
[08:21:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Easy Fix - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:21:44] <exec> 08└─Good. I'd far rather guilty people go free than have my privacy invaded by authoritarians, well-meaning or not.
[08:21:45] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02Why are they having so much trouble? - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 122 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:21:45] <exec> 08└─Because all the really smart ones are are working for TV shows, and they are all quirky females with body image issues.
[08:21:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Why are they having so much trouble? - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:21:47] <exec> 08└─ArchLinux user gets 5 years for running a raucus LUG. [usatoday.com]
[08:21:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Why are they having so much trouble? - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:21:49] <exec> 08└─You're still doing that? We get it --- Arch Linux users fuck dogs. Now piss off.
[08:21:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Why are they having so much trouble? - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:21:51] <exec> 08└─Perhaps you have missed the pop tv culture references :P I don't know if the statistics break down to actually support it, but the comment is funny based on some major shows following this exact trend. There are probably enough references to say something about "dorky dudes with confidence issues" s...
[08:21:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why are they having so much trouble? - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:21:52] <exec> 08└─THE MOD SYSTEM WORKED! sorta... I was the AC thinking the joke was missed, but did not see the hidden comment with the link. My bad!
[08:21:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:1, Troll) 02Re:Why are they having so much trouble? - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:21:54] <exec> 08└─Subsentient was replying to the AC, or maybe you, its hard to tell one AC from the other - you guys all dress the same.
[08:21:55] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Why not? - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 306 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:21:56] <exec> 08└─1. Because the pay sucks and the benefits will disappear with the next Republican president? 2. Because the people who really know anything about this stuff are WAY too smart and moral to work for a 3 letter agency? 3. "The question isn't why should I work for the NSA/FBI/DNI/XXX, but rather why wou...
[08:21:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:Why not? - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:21:58] <exec> 08└─That and that the drudgery of working in one of their offices probably sucks worse than a regular one for people with a computer security background. I have the most inane conversations daily about people doing stupid shit because they just don't want to deal with security, and that is in a building...
[08:21:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why not? - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:21:59] <exec> 08└─I work with MS and Phd's and have the same experience.
[08:22:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:Why not? - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 2211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:01] <exec> 08└─That's the least of it. The biggest problem is the chronic suspicion from the political hacks who manage the agencies. They're always worried you're going to rat them out, be the next Edward Snowden. They're also chronically suspicious of your competence. They are wont to demand the impossible, and...
[08:22:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Why not? - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:03] <exec> 08└─You're never just an employee, you're an employee and a suspect.
[08:22:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:Why not? - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 955 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:04] <exec> 08└─- "You fall in love with the bureau, but it doesn't fall in love with you" - The pay sucks for what you do - A staff composed almost entirely of Catholics and Mormons (so, anger and control issues from being raised by iron-fisted patriarchs in ultra-strict households) - The FBI is now just an army o...
[08:22:05] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:Why not? - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 90 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:06] <exec> 08└─3. "The question isn't why should I work for the NSA/FBI/DNI/XXX, but rather why would I?"
[08:22:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I'd volunteer, but I'd be afraid... - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:22:09] <exec> 08└─of being put on a list if I find something, put in guantonamo, cavity searches, you get the idea.
[08:22:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geotti [1146] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:I'd volunteer, but I'd be afraid... - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:13] <exec> 08└─Putin will always grant you asylum, comrade!
[08:22:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02easy - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:22:16] <exec> 08└─just use java multicore intelligence .
[08:22:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02War on Drugs Blowback - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:22:20] <exec> 08└─The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot [vice.com]
[08:22:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03bonehead [5931] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:War on Drugs Blowback - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:23] <exec> 08└─If you want to hire people to do illegal shit, maybe you shouldn't be surprised when all the applicants have less than a squeaky-clean background. Just sayin'....
[08:22:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:War on Drugs Blowback - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:25] <exec> 08└─The difference is that there is nothing wrong with using marijuana and such; it generally only affects the person doing it, unless you're smoking and second hand smoke comes into play. I see that as a squeaky-clean background, provided you didn't harm anyone in the past. The government, however, rou...
[08:22:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:War on Drugs Blowback - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 419 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:26] <exec> 08└─While the dope is illegal it affects shit ton of people. It funds god knows what kind of criminal activity. From cartels that kidnap and rape teens to death, or just decapitate people for the hell of it, to inner city high school drop-out punks. Sure I get your point, but the distinction still stand...
[08:22:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:War on Drugs Blowback - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:28] <exec> 08└─While the dope is illegal it affects shit ton of people.
[08:22:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:War on Drugs Blowback - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:30] <exec> 08└─That was my first reaction to the question, "Why are they having so much trouble?". They've found all the IT people who can pass drug tests already.
[08:22:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:3, Informative) 02Simple answers to the Phoenix666's question - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 527 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:22:31] <exec> 08└─The answer to Phoenix666's question is in the article, and it's got three parts: The Feds don't pay as much as private industry (and doesn't offer nearly equivalent perks)There aren't enough qualified people to fill the existing jobs, driving pay up and exacerbating point 1The people who would apply...
[08:22:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Simple answers to the Phoenix666's question - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:33] <exec> 08└─While I'm all for legalization, I don't really think drugs are the reason people aren't signing up for the feeb. Everyone I know with security clearance loves weed and psychedelics and passed their polygraph, which just goes to show that the only real purpose of a polygraph is to weed out people who...
[08:22:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:2) 02Re:Simple answers to the Phoenix666's question - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:35] <exec> 08└─I wouldn't work for them because of : 1) I have morals. 2) I don't want the background check. (I'd probably pass without issue, but I just don't want to be scrutinized to that level). 3) I smoke pot. Mostly it's because they are all a bunch of fuckers stealing what freedoms we have left and they can...
[08:22:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geotti [1146] (Score:2) 02Re:Simple answers to the Phoenix666's question - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:37] <exec> 08└─If enough 'proper' people would go there, we'd have a chance at changing something, though.
[08:22:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Simple answers to the Phoenix666's question - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:38] <exec> 08└─These "proper" people would become improper the minute they started violating the constitution, which their jobs would require. If they refused, they wouldn't have the job for very long. The people working for these organizations, and the ones who gave them jobs that require violating the constituti...
[08:22:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geotti [1146] (Score:2) 02Re:Simple answers to the Phoenix666's question - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:40] <exec> 08└─If they all indeed proper and do uphold moral, and ethical values (and possibly loose their jobs), their higher ups will eventually be forced to answer some uncomfortable questions.
[08:22:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:Simple answers to the Phoenix666's question - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:42] <exec> 08└─HAHAHAHAHA! Good one! Made my day...
[08:22:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Simple answers to the Phoenix666's question - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:44] <exec> 08└─The rot starts at the top. Changing those who "only follow orders" doesn't do much good...and if they stay, they don't stay moral.
[08:22:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Re:Simple answers to the Phoenix666's question - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:45] <exec> 08└─>I have morals. >Relationship hacking.
[08:22:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Bureaucracy - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:22:47] <exec> 08└─Technically competent people generally try to avoid bureaucracy as much as possible, not seek out places they know it'll be terrible. That's not even getting into the pay difference -- even if you're a GS-14 you aren't making as much as you would in the private sector.
[08:22:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:3, Interesting) 02WTF is a "cyber sherlock"??? - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 1058 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:22:49] <exec> 08└─Okay, so who are the "highly qualified candidates"? I'm surprised they found 82 people with the purple-squirrel skills the FBI is looking for, who can pass a security clearance, and want to be randomly assigned to whichever of the 56 locations the FBI wants to exile them. I think the FBI is doing gr...
[08:22:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WTF is a "cyber sherlock"??? - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:51] <exec> 08└─A sad attempt at a new buzzword. End of story. Just like every controversy is called something-gate.
[08:22:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:WTF is a "cyber sherlock"??? - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:52] <exec> 08└─It's kind of like an electronic Poirot [wikipedia.org]...
[08:22:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:WTF is a "cyber sherlock"??? - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:54] <exec> 08└─or like a paedophilic Scooby Doo (Rooby Rooby Roo!) http://www.google.ca
[08:22:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WTF is a "cyber sherlock"??? - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:56] <exec> 08└─Finding 82 people that have the laundry-list of skills is probably a miracle all by itself
[08:22:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03module0000 [5955] (Score:1) 02Re:WTF is a "cyber sherlock"??? - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 734 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:57] <exec> 08└─^^This! I have your(the FBI's requested) laundry list of skills, over a decade of experience, and a military stint in 2002 with a TS clearance. That said...here are some more reasons to not work the feds: 1) Ethics - I have them, and the FBI and other agencies do not. 2) Bureaucrats - the FBI and ot...
[08:22:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03yankprintster [4225] (Score:1) 02Re:WTF is a "cyber sherlock"??? - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 934 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:59] <exec> 08└─I was curious about the pay for working in the FBI Cybersecurity Division, but was having a hard time pinning down exactly what it would be. To become a Special Agent, you must have 20/20 vision in at least one eye and can not be older than 36 and a half (more restrictive than working as an Astronau...
[08:23:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Bring in foreign workers. - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:23:01] <exec> 08└─According to Eric Schmidt, "there are simply more smart Indians and Chinese than there are Americans." Most likely, there are more cyber specialists in the rest of the world than there are employees of the US government. Suck up all those brains and every postal carrier, every soldier, every TSA scr...
[08:23:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tangaroa [682] (Score:4, Insightful) 02HR - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:23:02] <exec> 08└─I applied with a CS degree, a couple of years of experience in networking, and analyses I had done on different subjects like the CSSTricks DNS hijacking and the German and Thai branches of the Wolf Bohringer network. They sent back a standard form letter saying that I did not meet the minimum quali...
[08:23:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Spam) 02Re:HR - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:04] <exec> 08└─Hi! I don't care about physical fitness, but would love your help if you can do java multicore intelligence .
[08:23:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score:2) 02Because everyone hates them? - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:23:06] <exec> 08└─NSA especially. I have ethics, and I don't plan on selling them, much less for a stressful job of stripping freedom from the citizens. FBI I could do, perhaps. Catching the real criminals, solving murders, that kind of thing I wouldn't feel bad for. Then again, nowadays, they're getting pretty shady...
[08:23:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Because everyone hates them? - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:07] <exec> 08└─They always were shady.
[08:23:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bobs [1462] (Score:1) 02Also much simpler to operate - 06Introducing Bladeless Wind Turbines - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:23:09] <exec> 08└─There are fewer moving parts. To net it out: it produces less electricity but costs less to build, costs less to operate / maintain and they can be placed closer together. Its makers boast the fact that there are no gears, bolts, or mechanically moving parts, which they say makes the Vortex cheaper...
[08:23:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Also much simpler to operate - 06Introducing Bladeless Wind Turbines - 1154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:11] <exec> 08└─The 30 percent figure is a fudge because it is all based on the square area of the device. The pole of these blade-less devices has a very small area compared to the entire swath of turbine rotor blades. Their math assumes scaling the area up to match a typical windmill. The most efficient windmills...
[08:23:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Osamabobama [5842] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Also much simpler to operate - 06Introducing Bladeless Wind Turbines - 455 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:13] <exec> 08└─Your equation doesn't need to specify the units of the power, diameter, or wind speed if you don't specify the units of the constant. But, based on the SI units provided, it looks like the constant would be in s^2/m^4. It was enough to make me curious, which led me to this site which discusses the t...
[08:23:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:2, Insightful) 02I don't see how this can work - 06Introducing Bladeless Wind Turbines - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:23:14] <exec> 08└─It's unfortunate that the article was so completely lacking in details. I don't see anything in the article that talks about how the device converts those vortexes into electricity. I assume that the whole shaft doesn't rotate, but the article is rather light on the details.
[08:23:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:I don't see how this can work - 06Introducing Bladeless Wind Turbines - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:16] <exec> 08└─You expect actual facts from vaporware that is looking for investors? "Green energy" is one of today's buzzwords, so expect most players in the field to be selling snake oil.
[08:23:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:I don't see how this can work - 06Introducing Bladeless Wind Turbines - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:18] <exec> 08└─If you want buzzwords, don't forget the magnets - yup it's got magnets too. How the fuck will it work?
[08:23:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I don't see how this can work - 06Introducing Bladeless Wind Turbines - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:19] <exec> 08└─Don't forget to prefix it with a lowercase i and include the term cloud somewhere.
[08:23:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:I don't see how this can work - 06Introducing Bladeless Wind Turbines - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:21] <exec> 08└─To be fair, most methods of converting mechanical energy into electricity involve magnets or electromagnets and methods that don't use magnetism, like rubbing fur on plastic, aren't widely used for anything beyond classroom demonstrations of static electricity, which is useful educationally, but not...
[08:23:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:I don't see how this can work - 06Introducing Bladeless Wind Turbines - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:23] <exec> 08└─The article does talk about that. The shaft doesn't rotate, it flexes back and forth, and that motion is then converted to electricity. Biggest problem I see is material fatigue. Building a tower that can bend over and over, for several decades, without breaking? I'm sure it can be done, but can it...
[08:23:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:I don't see how this can work - 06Introducing Bladeless Wind Turbines - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:24] <exec> 08└─Biggest problem I see is material fatigue. Building a tower that can bend over and over, for several decades, without breaking? I'm sure it can be done, but can it be done at a reasonable price?
[08:23:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I don't see how this can work - 06Introducing Bladeless Wind Turbines - 591 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:26] <exec> 08└─There's an animation on the company's home page: http://vortexbladeless.com [vortexbladeless.com] The wind will cause their device to oscillate (I've seen lamp posts do this in the wind). The oscillations will cause relative motion between a magnet and a coil of wire, of which one, presu...
[08:23:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:I don't see how this can work - 06Introducing Bladeless Wind Turbines - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:28] <exec> 08└─From what I've seen, the idea is to have magnets on the shaft moving inside a coil of wire acting as an alternator.
[08:23:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Informative) 02Dupe - 06Introducing Bladeless Wind Turbines - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:23:29] <exec> 08└─Dupe: https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org]
[08:23:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:2) 02Re:Dupe - 06Introducing Bladeless Wind Turbines - 487 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:31] <exec> 08└─Wow! We've grown up! We're getting dupes! Next thing you know, we'll have M$ Shills and we'll be painting the site GREEN. :) Joking aside, one of the best things about this site is the total LACK of dupes. This is the first one I can recall, and it was 5 months ago, so I'll let that slide. Actually...
[08:23:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03xav [5579] (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:Dupe - 06Introducing Bladeless Wind Turbines - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:33] <exec> 08└─Sorry to rain on your parade, but this is not the first dupe. See https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org] and https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org] (three weeks apart)
[08:23:34] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03FatPhil [863] 02My money's on bullshit - 06Introducing Bladeless Wind Turbines - 682 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:23:35] <exec> 08└─http://blog.cleanenergy.org/2015/06/01/vortexbladelesswindturbine/ http://www.kcet.org My personal sniff test is that the images they show have the same proportions for all of their turbines. Th...
[08:23:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Re:My money's on bullshit - 06Introducing Bladeless Wind Turbines - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:36] <exec> 08└─This completely disregards a little thing called the laws of physics, which I'd have thought would have been important in such an industry. You can't simply scale things up, the forces grow quicker than the strengths grow.
[08:23:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:My money's on bullshit - 06Introducing Bladeless Wind Turbines - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:38] <exec> 08└─Skyscrapers also achieve most of their strength due to their shape - internally braced box structures are strong. Try erecting a thin sheet of steel to the same dimensions as a sky scraper and see how far you get.
[08:23:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ugmo [5721] (Score:1) 02Quiet? - 06Introducing Bladeless Wind Turbines - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:23:40] <exec> 08└─The article does not say quieter. The summary says: Less efficient than traditional wind turbines, but quiet and don't kill birds.
[08:23:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Quiet? - 06Introducing Bladeless Wind Turbines - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:41] <exec> 08└─Perhaps, but a windmill isn't exactly quiet either.
[08:23:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score:2) 02Re:Quiet? - 06Introducing Bladeless Wind Turbines - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:43] <exec> 08└─It's not? I've rode my bicycle right past a couple and didn't notice any noise at all.
[08:23:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Quiet? - 06Introducing Bladeless Wind Turbines - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:45] <exec> 08└─Ride you bicycle on a strong wind and you'll hear it. (bonus points if you ride the bike uphill with strong front wind: there'll be a constant thumping in your ears)
[08:23:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Funny) 02looks like a giant rolled joint - 06Introducing Bladeless Wind Turbines - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:23:46] <exec> 08└─Is it... Acapulco Gold, Panama Gold, Black Russian, Texas Tea, Chronic, Maui Wowie, Hash, Homegrown, or Colombo?
[08:23:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re: looks like a giant rolled joint - 06Introducing Bladeless Wind Turbines - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:48] <exec> 08└─Nah, man it's Labrador.*tokes*
[08:23:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re: looks like a giant rolled joint - 06Introducing Bladeless Wind Turbines - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:50] <exec> 08└─But is there any other terms that parents should be aware of? [youtube.com]
[08:23:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimtheowl [5929] (Score:2, Funny) 02Almost... - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:23:51] <exec> 08└─"broccoli-loving, marathon-running, disease-immune, super-awesome genius" 3 out of 4 isn't that bad. With just a little more effort I know I can love that broccoli.
[08:23:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Almost... - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:53] <exec> 08└─Read my lips...
[08:23:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Almost... - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:55] <exec> 08└─"broccoli-loving, marathon-running, disease-immune, super-awesome genius" 3 out of 4 isn't that bad. With just a little more effort I know I can love that broccoli.
[08:23:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Almost... - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:57] <exec> 08└─Learning to cook broccoli properly is within the means of most sentient humans.
[08:23:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Almost... - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:58] <exec> 08└─Anything can be made delicious with enough cheese on it. Besides, even without cheese, broccoli is still pretty good. It's that nasty goddamn cauliflower I can't stand.
[08:23:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Almost... - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:00] <exec> 08└─Have you tried roasting it? It caramelizes beautifully.
[08:24:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Almost... - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:01] <exec> 08└─It's also pretty good in Indian and middle eastern dishes.
[08:24:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:2) 02Re:Almost... - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:03] <exec> 08└─I lik brokolee!
[08:24:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Re:Almost... - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:05] <exec> 08└─1 out of 4 and holding on until I become senile. Then I'll switch to eating broccoli.
[08:24:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Habit formation - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:24:07] <exec> 08└─Surely habit formation is possible at most stages of life, although we all know certain things are easier when one is younger, like learning a foreign language. According to Dr. Willard Harley, if you practice relaxing as a response to frustration, and make it a habit, you will rewire your brain to...
[08:24:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Habit formation - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:08] <exec> 08└─although we all know certain things are easier when one is younger, like learning a foreign language.
[08:24:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Habit formation - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 1263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:10] <exec> 08└─I think it's pretty clearly a load of horseshit to say that people can't transform themselves almost completely if they want to. I've had a stroke, extreme sodium deficiency and severe head trauma at various points in my life and I can tell you that it's definitely possible to become a different per...
[08:24:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geotti [1146] (Score:2) 02Re:Habit formation - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:11] <exec> 08└─Foreign language isn't any easier as a child than it is as an adult.
[08:24:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Habit formation - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:13] <exec> 08└─certain things are easier when one is younger, like learning a foreign language
[08:24:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Of course you can - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 1653 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:24:15] <exec> 08└─Furthermore a lot of "You" isn't due to new neural pathways either at least the sort they are talking about. It's due to your memories, emotions and desires (sometimes the emotions and desires can surface even if your "explicit" memory isn't working well- people with problems with long term memory w...
[08:24:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Of course you can - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:17] <exec> 08└─But memories, at least, are encoded in neural pathways.
[08:24:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Of course you can - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:18] <exec> 08└─But memories, at least, are encoded in neural pathways.
[08:24:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Electro-stimulation to rewire the brain - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:24:20] <exec> 08└─How is that new? - "What you think about our Leader's foreign policy?" - "It's a clusterfuck of fail becau...." *BZZZZZZZZZT* - "What were you saying?" - "It.... is.... OK... I... guess....*pant*" - "Good, on to the next question"...
[08:24:21] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] 02Nope - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 47 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:24:22] <exec> 08└─Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person?
[08:24:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Zen and the art of TARDIS maintenance - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:24:23] <exec> 08└─We all change. When you think about it, we're all different people, all through our lives. And that's okay, that's good, you've gotta keep moving - so long as you remember all the people that you used to be.
[08:24:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaganar [605] (Score:3, Funny) 02Science? Scientology! - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:24:25] <exec> 08└─What hogwash -- everyone who's anyone [wikipedia.org] knows you can only do this by being audited! [scientology.org] (Be sure to bring your checkbook -- you'll "need" it. [xenu.net])
[08:24:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:2) 02Broccoli? - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:24:27] <exec> 08└─> you can turn yourself into a broccoli-loving Cruciferous vegetables taste like death. No amount of mental rewiring that doesn't start in the lizard portion of the brain is going to fix that. I suppose once enough taste buds die, it'll be tolerable - but that will happen no matter what I think.
[08:24:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geotti [1146] (Score:2) 02Re: Broccoli? - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:28] <exec> 08└─Cruciferous vegetables taste like death.
[08:24:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:2) 02Re: Broccoli? - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:30] <exec> 08└─Broccoli is one of the most vile tastes I've ever been subjected to, with the exception of my stomach contents making a hasty exit. Chewing a small floret would be an ordeal and swallowing would likely only be possible by forcing it down with water. The rest of the family - the ones I've experienced...
[08:24:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re: Broccoli? - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 416 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:32] <exec> 08└─You might be doing it wrong. I hated broccoli as a kid because I only ever got the frozen variety cooked to mush and smothered in butter. Much later I got it in chinese and korean recipes, where it rocks. Now that our family diet consists mostly of dark green veg, we like it plain. It's strange for...
[08:24:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re: Broccoli? - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:34] <exec> 08└─I hate onions, don't want them in or on anything, they ruin the test of everything else. Except... onion rings, love them. Weird huh?
[08:24:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re: Broccoli? - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:35] <exec> 08└─Everything is better when deep fried and breaded.
[08:24:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Reminds me of a joke - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:24:37] <exec> 08└─Patient: "Doctor, will I be able to play the violin after this surgery?" Doctor: "Why sure!" Patient: "Good, because I couldn't play before."
[08:24:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not really - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:24:39] <exec> 08└─"In adult centres the nerve paths are something fixed, ended, immutable. Everything may die, nothing may be regenerated. It is for the science of the future to change, if possible, this harsh decree."
[08:24:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Re:Not really - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:40] <exec> 08└─You can have neuroplasticity with static nerve paths by changing the weights of the connections between each neuron
[08:24:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not really - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 631 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:42] <exec> 08└─Citation? Also, for me to believe it they pretty much have use in vivo two-photon to image the same cell over time. To my knowledge, no one using that method has seen a dendrite grow and the axons seen growing just do it random directions after being damaged then get pruned. Experiments like compari...
[08:24:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Pascal - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:24:44] <exec> 08└─I think, therefore I am... a different person?
[08:24:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Pascal - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:46] <exec> 08└─That one is from Descartes, cannot be Pascal: no begin or end statements anywhere to be seen.
[08:24:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:4, Insightful) 02re Pernicious Belief - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 1284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:24:47] <exec> 08└─One of the most pernicious beliefs of our age is that you can become anything you want, if you only push yourself hard enough. Which is a great way of misleading people into thinking that if they are not rich, good-looking and awesome, it is all their own fault. How much training would it take to ou...
[08:24:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03richardboegli [400] (Score:1) 02Yes you can think yourself into a different person - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:24:49] <exec> 08└─I thought myself into being 40kg (90lb) lighter in 40 weeks without exercise. http://weightloss40kgin40weekswithoutexercise.com [weightloss40kgin40weekswithoutexercise.com]
[08:24:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02I can think of two - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:24:51] <exec> 08└─Method actors come close, and terrorists went over the edge of humanity when they rethought themselves.
[08:24:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Code talkers - 06Despite Police Panic Over Encryption, Paris Attackers used Plaintext SMS - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:24:52] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_talker [wikipedia.org] How many Americans are fluent in Arabic, Farsi, or any of the other languages spoken in the mideast? I could join a forum, have full access to anything and everything said there, and witness plans to bomb my own hometown, and I'd be as ignora...
[08:24:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Code talkers - 06Despite Police Panic Over Encryption, Paris Attackers used Plaintext SMS - 385 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:54] <exec> 08└─Of course you are correct. When Anonymous declared war on ISIS my first reaction was "boy the FBI is gonna shit their pants when they see thousands of virgin teens ordering Arabic language learning material over the internet." I mean how else do they think they will Anonymous beat ISIS if they don't...
[08:24:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Arabic and Persian(Farsi) are not Navajo - 06Despite Police Panic Over Encryption, Paris Attackers used Plaintext SMS - 562 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:56] <exec> 08└─There are a whole lot of native speakers of those languages in the United States. I can go down to the corner deli on my block and find a half dozen. I'm sure that France is no worse off there. It can't serve as an excuse for why total police state surveillance failed. You don't even need to use non...
[08:24:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Arabic and Persian(Farsi) are not Navajo - 06Despite Police Panic Over Encryption, Paris Attackers used Plaintext SMS - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:57] <exec> 08└─You can pre-establish a code phrase in English
[08:24:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Code talkers - 06Despite Police Panic Over Encryption, Paris Attackers used Plaintext SMS - 594 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:59] <exec> 08└─The "war on encryption" has NOTHING to do with the paris attacks. They were already planning this. The speed with which the (almost certainly CIA/NSA created) disinformation came out (e.g. the fake encryption story) betrays the fact that this is just part of the game. Let's be quite clear about this...
[08:25:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Code talkers - 06Despite Police Panic Over Encryption, Paris Attackers used Plaintext SMS - 983 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:01] <exec> 08└─The exact same thing happened with the "Patriot" Act. In a nutshell, Congress said "Yikes, 9/11 happened! We have to DO SOMETHING!" The three-letter agencies said "You want to do something? Here's what you can do!" And it was their wishlist of everything they'd been wanting to do for decades. And Co...
[08:25:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheReaperD [5556] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:Code talkers - 06Despite Police Panic Over Encryption, Paris Attackers used Plaintext SMS - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:02] <exec> 08└─There's a saying in politics and news outlets, "never let a good tragedy go to waste." There are always wishlist items for various programs that are written and ready to go if the right type of tragedy happens. Lobbyists for the causes always have them ready to go.
[08:25:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Code talkers - 06Despite Police Panic Over Encryption, Paris Attackers used Plaintext SMS - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:04] <exec> 08└─Which is why conspiracy theorists come to the conclusion that "the right type of tragedy" is sometimes orchestrated by those organizations. They are just too ready to profit from it.
[08:25:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Code talkers - 06Despite Police Panic Over Encryption, Paris Attackers used Plaintext SMS - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:06] <exec> 08└─The three-letter agencies said "You want to do something? Here's what you can do!"
[08:25:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Code talkers - 06Despite Police Panic Over Encryption, Paris Attackers used Plaintext SMS - 508 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:08] <exec> 08└─>>>>I should mention that of the current presidential candidates, the only one to vote against that travesty was Bernie Sanders, which is one of the many reasons I support his presidential bid. That statement is a little disingenuous. How many of the current presidential candidates were actually in...
[08:25:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Code talkers - 06Despite Police Panic Over Encryption, Paris Attackers used Plaintext SMS - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:09] <exec> 08└─How many of the current presidential candidates were actually in Congress at that time to be able to vote against the Patriot Act?
[08:25:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:Code talkers - 06Despite Police Panic Over Encryption, Paris Attackers used Plaintext SMS - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:11] <exec> 08└─I don't know why you didn't mention Sanders. He's the only candidate who voted against it in 2001 (he was in the House at the time).
[08:25:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Code talkers - 06Despite Police Panic Over Encryption, Paris Attackers used Plaintext SMS - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:13] <exec> 08└─> They were already planning this Yes they were, here's the proof: Although “the legislative environment is very hostile today,” the intelligence community’s top lawyer, Robert S. Litt, said to colleagues in an August e-mail, which was obtained by The Post, “it could turn in the event of a...
[08:25:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Code talkers - 06Despite Police Panic Over Encryption, Paris Attackers used Plaintext SMS - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:15] <exec> 08└─The government just needs to hire a "service" that listens and translates for them. The government doesn't break the law and they grant retroactive immunity to any contractor that does. The contractor, in an effort to maximize profits, will outsource the translating to a group of people half a world...
[08:25:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Code talkers - 06Despite Police Panic Over Encryption, Paris Attackers used Plaintext SMS - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:16] <exec> 08└─Les sanglots longs des violons de l’automne blessent mon cœur d’une langueur monotone. There are all sorts of encryption. Who would have guessed that the above was a signal to the French Resistance that D-Day would begin in 24 hours?
[08:25:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Code talkers - 06Despite Police Panic Over Encryption, Paris Attackers used Plaintext SMS - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:18] <exec> 08└─Les carottes sont cuites. Je repete. Les carottes sont cuites. Yep. Carots being cooked signaled the biggest assault in history. The Nazis could hear it, but they hadn't waterboarded the codebook out of the Resistants.
[08:25:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The reference to Snowden - 06Despite Police Panic Over Encryption, Paris Attackers used Plaintext SMS - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:25:20] <exec> 08└─Was probably more about preventing governments from making unconditional intercepts. Encryption comes into play *after* the intercept has taken place.
[08:25:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Great headline - 06Despite Police Panic Over Encryption, Paris Attackers used Plaintext SMS - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:25:22] <exec> 08└─I wish every article on the subject contained that simple line: "Despite Police Panic Over Encryption, Paris Attackers used Plaintext SMS."
[08:25:22] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] 02Panic Here, Panic There, Panic Everywhere - 06Despite Police Panic Over Encryption, Paris Attackers used Plaintext SMS - 120 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:23] <exec> 08└─Another headline for ya: Despite Public Panic Over Syrian Refugees, Paris Attackers had EU Passports [independent.co.uk]
[08:25:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03present_arms [4392] (Score:2) 02Outfoxed - 06Despite Police Panic Over Encryption, Paris Attackers used Plaintext SMS - 434 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:25:25] <exec> 08└─Simple really if you think about it, the brains (don't laugh) in NSA and so on think complexity, in that they always think the terrorists will use some complex code, encryption etc to send messages to others in their faction when the truth of the matter is it's simple SMS, snail mail letters and act...
[08:25:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Outfoxed - 06Despite Police Panic Over Encryption, Paris Attackers used Plaintext SMS - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:27] <exec> 08└─It is worse than that. We already know that they monitor SMS. If they are too incompetent to prevent these types of events with the information that they already have, how do you think that incompetence is going to play out when they start handling our encrypted data? The answer is that they are goi...
[08:25:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:4, Interesting) 02"Mastermind" - 06Despite Police Panic Over Encryption, Paris Attackers used Plaintext SMS - 1128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:25:28] <exec> 08└─> Abdelhamid Abaaoud, the "mastermind" Yes, please put that in quotes. These guys are not geniuses - they're people. There's some genuinely smart ones, some clever ones, some average ones, and a lot of idiots. For our own sense of security we like to pretend our society is a citadel, only harmed by...
[08:25:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Use Java multicore intelligence - 06Despite Police Panic Over Encryption, Paris Attackers used Plaintext SMS - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:25:30] <exec> 08└─Catch the bad guuys
[08:25:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:4, Informative) 02Tom Cotton? - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:25:32] <exec> 08└─You aren't forgotten: https://www.google.com [google.com] https://theintercept.com [theintercept.com]
[08:25:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Tom Cotton? - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:34] <exec> 08└─There you go, impugning the dignity and honor of one of the most handsome public officials that money can buy!
[08:25:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Insightful) 02fuck off - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:25:35] <exec> 08└─They have had these powers for years and haven't prevented jack shit. The argument that they can't tell us about all the terror ops that they stop because then the bad guys would know that they are watching is bullshit. EVERYONE knows by now. So show us the proof or fuck off.
[08:25:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:fuck off - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:37] <exec> 08└─But, but, but - you're so NEGATIVE!! Just because shit hasn't worked for the past fourteen years doesn't mean anything. We just need MOAR SHITE, and it'll start working! Forget about that old gray haired man's definition of insanity, MOAR SHIT!
[08:25:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:fuck off - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 486 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:39] <exec> 08└─They didn't prevent the Boston Marathon, which was done by two brothers with apparently no outside help, or Ft. Hood, which was a single shooter. Neither of these attacks required electronic communications. Meanwhile, if you compiled a list of all the mass murders in the USA that took place in the l...
[08:25:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:fuck off - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:41] <exec> 08└─Pedantic note: there were two people who did mass shootings at Ft. Hood: Nidal Hasan in 2009 and Ivan Lopez in 2014. The FSB warned the US government that Tamerlan Tsarnaev was dangerous, and the FBI and CIA investigated him, but his name was entered as "Tsarnayev" in a database. Source: http://www....
[08:25:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sir Finkus [192] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:fuck off - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:42] <exec> 08└─They have had these powers for years and haven't prevented jack shit. The argument that they can't tell us about all the terror ops that they stop because then the bad guys would know that they are watching is bullshit. EVERYONE knows by now. So show us the proof or fuck off.
[08:25:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:fuck off - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 929 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:44] <exec> 08└─The bulk collection of phone metadata was never going to end in the first place. It's just that companies would be forced to store the data instead. If the government forces companies to do something (especially that would be unconstitutional for it to do), then those companies become a de facto par...
[08:25:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:fuck off - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:46] <exec> 08└─The claim that these programs are "constitutional" are based on the courts preventing anyone from challenging them in the light of day. Basing a claim of constitutionality on the fact that no one has been able to try to prove it unconstitutional is bullshit. "We're not keeping any secret prisoners h...
[08:25:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:fuck off - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:47] <exec> 08└─haven't prevented jack shit
[08:25:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:3, Insightful) 02incredibly red alert. polarize the hull plating. - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:25:49] <exec> 08└─What that they say? Never let a good tragedy go to waste. If the threat level is "high," I expect at least one good explosion in the USA in the next few weeks. I mean, the threat level isn't just complete bullshit, right?
[08:25:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:incredibly red alert. polarize the hull plating - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:51] <exec> 08└─It's coming any second now. The threat level has only been "high" or higher since 9/11.
[08:25:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:3, Insightful) 02We'd do this, why? - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:25:52] <exec> 08└─Because export restrictions on strong encryption totally worked back in the day? Yeah, I fully expect the linux maintainers to write backdoors into all the crypt libraries. Pass all the laws you like, douchebags, we'll just break them if they're unjust.
[08:25:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:We'd do this, why? - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:54] <exec> 08└─Might break them if they are just. I "just" don't give a damn about their silly laws.
[08:25:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:We'd do this, why? - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 444 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:56] <exec> 08└─> Because export restrictions on strong encryption totally worked back in the day? There's rumbles about trying to bring that back too - or to backdoor all encryption because that will really work - despite current (though admittedly still a bit sketchy) evidence pointing to the Paris attackers doin...
[08:25:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:We'd do this, why? - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 519 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:58] <exec> 08└─> Pass all the laws you like, douchebags, we'll just break them if they're unjust. I recall one scene in the movie "The boat that rocked" where politicians held a meeting to decide how to screw that floating pirate radio station. One of them said (rough translation as I didn't watch it in English) "...
[08:25:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03goodie [1877] (Score:3, Insightful) 02if it's so effective... - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 457 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:25:59] <exec> 08└─Show us concrete evidence of all the cases where this method, and this method alone, prevented something from happening. For real. Not some hypothetical crap like "you know, this could have happened". One of the major long term consequences of the Paris attacks is that defense and security budgets w...
[08:26:00] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02Re:if it's so effective... - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 262 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:26:01] <exec> 08└─Oh, the anal probing won't stop at the airport. I've seen TSA thugs in the NYC subway. I've read they conduct random stops on the highways. Why do you think they won't expand their brief to randomly search your office or bedroom? If no one stops them, they will.
[08:26:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:if it's so effective... - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:26:03] <exec> 08└─Show us concrete evidence of all the cases where this method, and this method alone, prevented something from happening. For real. Not some hypothetical crap like "you know, this could have happened".
[08:26:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:if it's so effective... - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 545 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:26:05] <exec> 08└─Explain exactly why they would? Or why that is even necessary anymore? You mention the TSA which is funny since they HAVE asked those questions and been shown that this organisation is almost completely useless and yet it persists at great expense. Face it. Your country (and others) have been asleep...
[08:26:05] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03MrGuy [1007] 02Observation - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 1023 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:26:06] <exec> 08└─When there's a new shocking incident of gun violence, one of the first things we hear is a rousing chorus of "now is not the time!" to talk about gun control from so much of congress, implying that it's the wrong approach to make long-lived legislative decisions based on short-term emotional fuel (w...
[08:26:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Observation - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:26:08] <exec> 08└─The NRA is run by gun manufacturers. They're defending the right of all Americans for them to have high revenues, high earnings and high pay for the corporate executives.
[08:26:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:Observation - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 621 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:26:10] <exec> 08└─If you think this is primarily about keeping your country safe and making reasoned responses to this incident then you are very naively missing the point. This facade is so thin it doesn't even qualify as an undercoat so I am not sure it beggars explanation or in depth discussion. "They" want access...
[08:26:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Observation - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 1556 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:26:11] <exec> 08└─Your post is excellent and it's already hit 5 so I won't mod it. Instead I'll respond. You have really hit the nail on the head. When it comes to big, splashy violence committed by 'terrorists' there's no limit to the outrages that elected officials in the government are willing to employ. When it c...
[08:26:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Observation - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:26:13] <exec> 08└─To me, it says that an armed citizenry is far more able to win a deliberative, just outcome from an out-of-control government, than a disarmed citizenry can.
[08:26:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Observation - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:26:15] <exec> 08└─You have really hit the nail on the head. When it comes to big, splashy violence committed by 'terrorists' there's no limit to the outrages that elected officials in the government are willing to employ. When it comes to big, splashy violence committed by citizens, they do suddenly, strangely, find...
[08:26:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:3, Interesting) 02DRM - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 1643 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:26:17] <exec> 08└─The whole discussion here reminds me of the debate around DRM, [wikipedia.org] especially in the videogames industry. DRM is incredibly draconian, causes headaches for numerous legitimate users, can be gamebrakingly bad under some DRM schemes if you're internet connection is the tiniest bit flaky, a...
[08:26:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:DRM - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:26:18] <exec> 08└─The problem with DRM isn't that it's draconian
[08:26:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sir Finkus [192] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:DRM - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 491 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:26:20] <exec> 08└─The main problem with mass surveillance is that it violates our fundamental liberties and the constitution, not merely that it doesn't work. If your problem with mass surveillance is simply that it doesn't work, then you must not value freedom. If the government discovers a way to make massive surve...
[08:26:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Crisis - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:26:22] <exec> 08└─Never let one go to waste.
[08:26:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Baa powerless - 06In Wake of Paris Attacks, Legislation Aims to Extend NSA Program - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:26:23] <exec> 08└─Don't use Java multicore
[08:26:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03bootsy [3440] (Score:2) 02The trouble with lichen - 06Experimental Alzheimer's Drug Also Seems to Slow Aging - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:26:25] <exec> 08└─I have just finished reading John Wyndham's "Trouble with Lichen" which is about the discovery of an anti-aging drug and the issues behind what that would actually mean for society. Of course works in mice is a long way from works on humans and aging and decay of cells is more than just this one ele...
[08:26:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The trouble with lichen - 06Experimental Alzheimer's Drug Also Seems to Slow Aging - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:26:27] <exec> 08└─how soon the cosmetics and beauty industry will try and use this
[08:26:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:The trouble with lichen - 06Experimental Alzheimer's Drug Also Seems to Slow Aging - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:26:29] <exec> 08└─On the other hand, we've found extending human lifespans by 20ish years since the industrial revolution has been a mostly positive thing.
[08:26:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:The trouble with lichen - 06Experimental Alzheimer's Drug Also Seems to Slow Aging - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:26:30] <exec> 08└─Lets not confuse science fiction with science fact here, ok? There is no indication of increased longevity in these mice attributable to the j147 diet. Almost all the effects the study measured were in brain health and performance. At best this might translate into an increased quality of life in el...
[08:26:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:4, Informative) 02SENS - 06Experimental Alzheimer's Drug Also Seems to Slow Aging - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:26:32] <exec> 08└─However, it was only designed to target one specific factor of old age, neurotoxicity. This is the exposure to toxic substances that damage nervous tissue and neurons, and is a major cause of Alzheimer's
[08:26:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:1, Troll) 02Inquiring minds want to know - 06Experimental Alzheimer's Drug Also Seems to Slow Aging - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:26:34] <exec> 08└─Yes, but does it slow the Alzheimer's cock?
[08:26:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Inquiring minds want to know - 06Experimental Alzheimer's Drug Also Seems to Slow Aging - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:26:36] <exec> 08└─Alzheimer's is like a billion tiny cocks fucking each of the brain's cells inside and out*. *Food and Drug Administration not aroused by this claim.
[08:26:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Where's MDC? - 06Experimental Alzheimer's Drug Also Seems to Slow Aging - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:26:37] <exec> 08└─We need you to personally try out some of these fountain of youth drugs, then report back to us. j/k
[08:26:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Dynamite Chart - 06Experimental Alzheimer's Drug Also Seems to Slow Aging - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:26:39] <exec> 08└─I get sad every time I check a biomed paper making promising claims then scroll down and see one of these: http://biostat.mc.vanderbilt.edu [vanderbilt.edu] Almost invariably it means they don't know how to analyze data.
[08:26:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dynamite Chart - 06Experimental Alzheimer's Drug Also Seems to Slow Aging - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:26:41] <exec> 08└─ctrl-F(blind): "Data were analysed by blinded researchers when appropriate." So not collected blind? When appropriate?
[08:26:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dynamite Chart - 06Experimental Alzheimer's Drug Also Seems to Slow Aging - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:26:42] <exec> 08└─Lack of statistical "significance" interpreted as no effect: "Accordingly, old SAMP8 mice spent significantly more time in the open arms compared to the young SAMP8 mice (Fig. 1 E). However, this was not altered by J147 treatment." Meh, I lost interest. A computer program could do better than the pe...
[08:26:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] 02Well... - 06TSA Protester Needs Your Help - 41 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:26:44] <exec> 08└─I must say, I've got to admire his balls.
[08:26:45] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03WizardFusion [498] 02Re:Well... - 06TSA Protester Needs Your Help - 61 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:26:46] <exec> 08└─Well, if you go work for the TSA you can get to feel them too
[08:26:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Paging ACLU - 06TSA Protester Needs Your Help - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:26:48] <exec> 08└─This looks to be right up their alley. BTW, the linked website is interesting. Check out the site's "about" page. Almost forgot: FUCK TSA.
[08:26:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jiro [3176] (Score:1, Troll) 02TSA is in the right - 06TSA Protester Needs Your Help - 727 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:26:49] <exec> 08└─This is disingenuous. It's not a "fully legal protest". Rather, it's a protest that's not illegal *based on the nudity being indecent exposure* and *based on criminal law* (not all law is criminal law). It may still be illegal for other reasons, and they still can fine him. Imagine that instead of p...
[08:26:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Informative) 02Re:TSA is in the right - 06TSA Protester Needs Your Help - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:26:51] <exec> 08└─So you can type even with that cock in you mouth.
[08:26:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:TSA is in the right - 06TSA Protester Needs Your Help - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:26:53] <exec> 08└─> The judge rules that a paint bomb isn't a deadly weapon, so he's innocent. Except he would be guilty of assault. When your analogy is so contorted that you have to deny the obvious, that ought to be a hint that you are denying the obvious.
[08:26:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Re:TSA is in the right - 06TSA Protester Needs Your Help - 936 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:26:54] <exec> 08└─Before 2005, I had no porn on my computers. Now, without even really looking that hard to download it, I have roughly 50 gig of porn. Enough hard cocks and full nudity, to last a lifetime. Or at least a week. Whenever anyone says that they're offended by nudity, I have to wonder; just how little tim...
[08:26:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:TSA is in the right - 06TSA Protester Needs Your Help - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:26:56] <exec> 08└─Which ruling are you citing to justify your subject-line that "TSA is in the right"?
[08:26:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2, Funny) 02Re:TSA is in the right - 06TSA Protester Needs Your Help - 357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:26:58] <exec> 08└─I stand by your proud stance my authoritarian brother. It is clear to me how much of a mighty crusader for what is right you are. For too long people have made gestures of defiance of the law and they must be held to account! Should we let such criminals get away with breaking our most sacred and ju...
[08:26:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:TSA is in the right - 06TSA Protester Needs Your Help - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:27:00] <exec> 08└─You'd better stand still, because we have retroactively caught all people breaking the law in protest, therefore you may either make your negro sing God Save The Queen or head for the gallows.
[08:27:01] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] 02Re:TSA is in the right - 06TSA Protester Needs Your Help - 549 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:27:01] <exec> 08└─The TSA is never in the right, because it's an unconstitutional organization whose job it is to violate countless people's fundamental liberties each and every day. People who work for the TSA are traitors. The concept of "indecent exposure" is illegitimate in the first place, because what is "indec...
[08:27:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jiro [3176] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:TSA is in the right - 06TSA Protester Needs Your Help - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:27:03] <exec> 08└─A paint bomb has physical effects on others. Not applicable.
[08:27:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:TSA is in the right - 06TSA Protester Needs Your Help - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:27:05] <exec> 08└─It's not indecent exposure, but that doesn't mean it can't violate other laws and therefore the TSA can still fine him.
[08:27:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:TSA is in the right - 06TSA Protester Needs Your Help - 2616 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:27:07] <exec> 08└─I'm on the fence between you two, only because the guy did get literally naked. Protesting is great and all, but I hardly think Dr. King would be amending his speech to include "dreams of a sea of naked people". I'm not a prude or anything, but I do think there are limits to what we can do while pro...
[08:27:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:TSA is in the right - 06TSA Protester Needs Your Help - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:27:08] <exec> 08└─I'm on the fence between you two, only because the guy did get literally naked.
[08:27:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:TSA is in the right - 06TSA Protester Needs Your Help - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:27:10] <exec> 08└─Standard practice for the Doukhobors. Drop trow, make a point. I'm not a prude or anything, but I do think there are limits to what we can do while protesting. Getting naked is rather extreme,
[08:27:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:3, Insightful) 02don't fly - 06TSA Protester Needs Your Help - 1090 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:27:12] <exec> 08└─TSA antics are one of many reasons I do not fly any more. I realize not flying isn't always practical. When you have only a week, and 1500+ miles to travel, you don't have time for a road trip. Instead, I try not to take trips at all. Whatever the reason for a trip, there are alternatives. Teleconfe...
[08:27:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Interesting) 02Questions - 06TSA Protester Needs Your Help - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:27:13] <exec> 08└─Is the airport under state or federal jurisdiction? Is it constitutional for the federal government to extend its jurisdiction to the area of the airport where the protest occurred? By what authority is the TSA allowed to impose fines upon members of the public? Was there a public trial? How is this...
[08:27:14] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] 02Re:Questions - 06TSA Protester Needs Your Help - 206 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:27:15] <exec> 08└─Well, the TSA is unconstitutional, as government thugs searching people before they're allowed on a plane violates the constitution. So I don't think they care about the constitutional aspect all that much.
[08:27:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Make believe encryption - 06The New York Times Quietly Pulls Article Blaming Encryption in Paris Attacks - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:27:17] <exec> 08└─By OTR do you refer to the opportunistic encryption in the Jabber/XMPP clients or some other more specific application? Jabber ORT still uses SHA1 http://wiki.xmpp.org [xmpp.org] which is considered insecure.
[08:27:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03draconx [4649] (Score:2) 02Re:Make believe encryption - 06The New York Times Quietly Pulls Article Blaming Encryption in Paris Attacks - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:27:19] <exec> 08└─Jabber ORT still uses SHA1 http://wiki.xmpp.org [xmpp.org] which is considered insecure.
[08:27:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Make believe encryption - 06The New York Times Quietly Pulls Article Blaming Encryption in Paris Attacks - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:27:20] <exec> 08└─A pair of messages with identical SHA-1 hashes has been constructed. https://eprint.iacr.org [iacr.org]
[08:27:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Make believe encryption - 06The New York Times Quietly Pulls Article Blaming Encryption in Paris Attacks - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:27:22] <exec> 08└─OTR, Off The Record, available over many transports including XMPP. I don't think I see how any weakness of SHA-1 can be exploited, the values being hashed either aren't arbitrarily chosen by the attacker, or are accompanied by AES-encrypted values that must match. Having said that, I've not looked...
[08:27:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Can you say "wool" and "eyes" - 06The New York Times Quietly Pulls Article Blaming Encryption in Paris Attacks - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:27:24] <exec> 08└─If they could crack it, they wouldn't be railing against it so loudly. The are nowhere near that subtle. There are lots of different methods of encryption. Some pathetic ones are crackable. But even good old PGP/GPG is sufficient to push any crack into the next century. Go read the Snowden interview...
[08:27:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02In other news - 06The New York Times Quietly Pulls Article Blaming Encryption in Paris Attacks - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:27:26] <exec> 08└─The terrorists used gas stations! They also used shops selling food! I even hear they bought some clothes at some point! They probably used a map of some sort too! Ban all these things! Then nuke where they came from - most of them actually came from a country that has NUCLEAR WEAPONS, the rest came...
[08:27:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Saddam's Weapons of Mass Destruction - 06The New York Times Quietly Pulls Article Blaming Encryption in Paris Attacks - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:27:27] <exec> 08└─US government believed that Saddam's Iraq stockpiled some kind of WMD, but offered no evidence.... We all remember how that went down. Fucking liars!
[08:27:28] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03snick [1408] 02Re:Saddam's Weapons of Mass Destruction - 06The New York Times Quietly Pulls Article Blaming Encryption in Paris Attacks - 35 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:27:29] <exec> 08└─We all remember how that went down.
[08:27:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Saddam's Weapons of Mass Destruction - 06The New York Times Quietly Pulls Article Blaming Encryption in Paris Attacks - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:27:31] <exec> 08└─direct result of de-Ba'athification
[08:27:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03snick [1408] (Score:2) 02Re:Saddam's Weapons of Mass Destruction - 06The New York Times Quietly Pulls Article Blaming Encryption in Paris Attacks - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:27:32] <exec> 08└─That is a perfect example of post-hoc thinking
[08:27:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Saddam's Weapons of Mass Destruction - 06The New York Times Quietly Pulls Article Blaming Encryption in Paris Attacks - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:27:34] <exec> 08└─US government believed that Saddam's Iraq stockpiled some kind of WMD,
[08:27:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:4, Informative) 02The naive war against encryption and privacy - 06The New York Times Quietly Pulls Article Blaming Encryption in Paris Attacks - 1733 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:27:36] <exec> 08└─The tools of oppression will let no crisis go wasted in order to use baseless speculation to support their war against encryption and privacy. Les sanglots longs Des violons De l'automne Blessent mon cœur D'une langueur Monotone. ~~~~~~~~~~ With long sobs the violin-throbs ...
[08:27:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02Recommendations... - 06The Intercept's Interview with Edward Snowden and His Recommendations on Reclaiming Privacy - 394 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:27:37] <exec> 08└─encrypt hard disk - CHECK password manager - CHECK two-factor authentication - CHECK use tor - SOMETIMES use adblock - CHECK encrypt phone calls - Ah, no. About the only people I talk to on the phone are my customers, and I can't very well ask them to install Signal just to keep the conversation fro...
[08:27:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03kadal [4731] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Recommendations... - 06The Intercept's Interview with Edward Snowden and His Recommendations on Reclaiming Privacy - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:27:39] <exec> 08└─Ask your family to use it.
[08:27:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02The New Oracle! - 06The Intercept's Interview with Edward Snowden and His Recommendations on Reclaiming Privacy - 899 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:27:41] <exec> 08└─So if you steal and dump a bunch of classified documents, you're now an expert on all sorts of stuff. All hail the Reality TV generation! I can't wait for him to start weighing in on foreign policy, race relations, and the new season of Game of Thrones! Years ago there was that highly publicized inc...
[08:27:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:4, Touché) 02Re:The New Oracle! - 06The Intercept's Interview with Edward Snowden and His Recommendations on Reclaiming Privacy - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:27:42] <exec> 08└─Lol, you are saying the guy who sneaked a bunch of documents out of the NSA that he shouldn't have had access to isn't a good authority on how to protect your data/privacy?
[08:27:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:The New Oracle! - 06The Intercept's Interview with Edward Snowden and His Recommendations on Reclaiming Privacy - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:27:44] <exec> 08└─Well, maybe not my data, but he could give the NSA a few tips!
[08:27:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:4, Funny) 02Re:The New Oracle! - 06The Intercept's Interview with Edward Snowden and His Recommendations on Reclaiming Privacy - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:27:46] <exec> 08└─Hey, maybe that's why they want him back so badly.
[08:27:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Re:The New Oracle! - 06The Intercept's Interview with Edward Snowden and His Recommendations on Reclaiming Privacy - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:27:48] <exec> 08└─So if you steal
[08:27:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02My tip: GNU/Linux - 06The Intercept's Interview with Edward Snowden and His Recommendations on Reclaiming Privacy - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:27:49] <exec> 08└─If you're using Windows, Android, MAC OS or iOS, you're squarely in their sights. These are made by US corps, which have no defense against the US gov. Or there is no use trying to build a castle on quick sand.
[08:27:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Legibility? - 06Zero-Day Broker Publishes a Price Chart for Different Classes of Digital Intrusion - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:27:51] <exec> 08└─It's readable enough to see that the product my company produces is on their list of targets. At least our unit tests pass Valgrind analysis, so I think we're safe. We've even tried using those intelligent fuzzers, and after a whole weekend found nothing of interest at all. So, the gauntlet is down....
[08:27:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcross [4009] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Bug Bounties - 06Zero-Day Broker Publishes a Price Chart for Different Classes of Digital Intrusion - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:27:53] <exec> 08└─What prevents the affected vendors from buying these (through a proxy if needed)? Wouldn't it be more or less like standard bug bounty programs? The prices only go up to $500,000, which seems trivial for the players involved.
[08:27:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Words have meaning... - 06Zero-Day Broker Publishes a Price Chart for Different Classes of Digital Intrusion - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:27:54] <exec> 08└─Zero day exploits are not secret hacker techniques, they are secret hacker products. Techniques are the methods used to discover the 0days such as reverse engineering and programming.
[08:27:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03MostCynical [2589] 02Pictures! - 06Termites Are Teaching Architects to Design Super-Efficient Skyscrapers - 381 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:27:56] <exec> 08└─More information and pictures: http://www.mickpearce.com [mickpearce.com] "Eastgate’s ventilation system costs one-tenth that of a comparable air-conditioned building and uses 35 per cent less energy than comparable conventional buildings...
[08:27:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Seems great... - 06Termites Are Teaching Architects to Design Super-Efficient Skyscrapers - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:27:58] <exec> 08└─Until you realize a bug-bomb (or the human equivalent) tossed into the central air shaft during the day would cause the toxins within it to diffuse through the *ENTIRE STRUCTURE*, at which point it suddenly seems like a sufficiently stupid idea to avoid doing where there might be those intent on har...
[08:27:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03rondon [5167] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Seems great... - 06Termites Are Teaching Architects to Design Super-Efficient Skyscrapers - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:27:59] <exec> 08└─Can you not say the same about the air intake for central air? I guess perhaps central air may be slightly more difficult to access, but not exactly impossible by any means. However, I'm certainly not an expert, so please enlighten me if I'm incorrect.
[08:28:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03aclarke [2049] (Score:2) 02Spelling - 06Termites Are Teaching Architects to Design Super-Efficient Skyscrapers - 501 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:28:01] <exec> 08└─First, it's "Eastgate Centre", not "Eastgate Center". Eastgate Centre was built in 1996, so it's hardly "news" in that sense. It was still news to me though as I haven't been to Harare since before that. It was a beautiful city at the time. I know it's no longer the place it once was (thanks, Mugabe...
[08:28:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Spelling - 06Termites Are Teaching Architects to Design Super-Efficient Skyscrapers - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:28:03] <exec> 08└─Are you an ex-pat Rhodesian? I find the case of Rhodesia fascinating. I've read "Scribbling the Cat." Having grown up in the Rockies, next to the Idaho panhandle with its white supremacist culture, I have a very strong negative association with Aryan anything. But the case of Rhodesia makes me quest...
[08:28:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03aclarke [2049] (Score:2) 02Re:Spelling - 06Termites Are Teaching Architects to Design Super-Efficient Skyscrapers - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:28:05] <exec> 08└─No I'm not, but I grew up in Zambia so we had reason to visit Zimbabwe on occasion. The whole situation in Zimbabwe is complex and very messed up, but I can say that anyone with a Hitler moustache probably shouldn't be allowed to run a country.
[08:28:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Spelling - 06Termites Are Teaching Architects to Design Super-Efficient Skyscrapers - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:28:06] <exec> 08└─Ewww, Grammar Nazi. So, a termite goes into a tavern, and says, "Is the bartender here?"
[08:28:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02solar chimney - 06Termites Are Teaching Architects to Design Super-Efficient Skyscrapers - 759 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:28:08] <exec> 08└─This sort of structure is commonly known as a "solar chimney". Sunlight striking a chimney causes the air inside to heat up and rise, creating a slight vacuum inside the building. The vacuum draws in cool air from a buried shaft. Wikipedia has a page about the idea: https://en.wikipedia.org
[08:28:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Re:right - 06 Ancient Board Game Found in Looted China Tomb - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:28:10] <exec> 08└─cowards and/or asian pride suckers probably modded you down. i don't see anything wrong with your comment. everyone is entitled to an opinion.
[08:28:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:What a gamer wants to know - 06 Ancient Board Game Found in Looted China Tomb - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:28:11] <exec> 08└─Hey! How about following the article link you you could see the picture of the 14-sided die right at the top of the damn page!
[08:28:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:2) 02Re:What a gamer wants to know - 06 Ancient Board Game Found in Looted China Tomb - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:28:13] <exec> 08└─Or a dipyramid like a d10. That reminds me, I need to get a blank or 3d-printed d16 so I can make a 2d4.
[08:28:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wiped Tapes - 06Moon Landing Tapes Got Erased, NASA Admits - 405 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:28:15] <exec> 08└─I'm sorry you feel that way. But I personally really like this type of satire. It pokes fun of no-one really other than the poster, if you think he is genuine, and the boogey man of the all powerful shadow government, thus makes it for very light humor with no one insulted. I enjoyed such jokes at t...
[08:28:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:2) 02Re:Wiped Tapes - 06Moon Landing Tapes Got Erased, NASA Admits - 395 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:28:17] <exec> 08└─I don't know, after seeing some people on Youtube who have a borderline grasp of English (thus can read and write... sort of) yet still make video after video on the moon being fake, there being multiple suns the government is hiding with chemtrails, planes being demons, 9/11 being a Satanic conspir...
[08:28:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03idetuxs [2990] (Score:1) 02Re:Wiped Tapes - 06Moon Landing Tapes Got Erased, NASA Admits - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:28:19] <exec> 08└─quoting the "moon" gave it up.
[08:28:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Wiped Tapes - 06Moon Landing Tapes Got Erased, NASA Admits - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:28:20] <exec> 08└─Do not watch this [youtube.com] if you are prone to brain aneurysms.
[08:28:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Wiped Tapes - 06Moon Landing Tapes Got Erased, NASA Admits - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:28:22] <exec> 08└─Well of course we know the moon is a liberal myth
[08:28:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03davester666 [155] 02Re:Wiped Tapes - 06Moon Landing Tapes Got Erased, NASA Admits - 75 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:28:24] <exec> 08└─They just went back to the original soundstage and made new master tapes...
[08:28:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03ticho [89] (Score:2) 02Re:Wiped Tapes - 06Moon Landing Tapes Got Erased, NASA Admits - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:28:26] <exec> 08└─They merely needed to remaster it so that Han did not shoot first anymore. Oh wait, wrong footage...
[08:28:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Wiped Tapes - 06Moon Landing Tapes Got Erased, NASA Admits - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:28:27] <exec> 08└─They just went back to the original soundstage and made new master tapes... Yah! I can't wait for all the new lens flare!!
[08:28:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03xav [5579] (Score:1) 02Re:related Wikipedia pages - 06Moon Landing Tapes Got Erased, NASA Admits - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:28:29] <exec> 08└─And of course : https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[08:28:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes, but what are the implication for Mars? - 06Moon Landing Tapes Got Erased, NASA Admits - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:28:31] <exec> 08└─Mod parent up, mod GP down. Frojack is entirely correct about the physics here. We see blips today because we use CCD detectors, and this radiation interacts much differently with film. The GP's armchair analysis is just flat out wrong.
[08:28:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03xav [5579] (Score:1) 02Re:Missing a noun somewhere? - 06Moon Landing Tapes Got Erased, NASA Admits - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:28:32] <exec> 08└─I guess next AC's question will be "what is a magnetic tape?"
[08:28:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Missing a noun somewhere? - 06Moon Landing Tapes Got Erased, NASA Admits - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:28:34] <exec> 08└─Yeah that was the point, Admiral Aspergers. *golf clap*
[08:28:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Missing a noun somewhere? - 06Moon Landing Tapes Got Erased, NASA Admits - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:28:36] <exec> 08└─I wasn't sure whether you had trouble understanding, or wanted to show your superiority. I took a chance it was the former.
[08:28:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03everdred [110] (Score:2) 02Re:"New, improved" - 06Moon Landing Tapes Got Erased, NASA Admits - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:28:38] <exec> 08└─I'm pretty much with you here. Pressing "enhance!" involves some degree of filling in what isn't actually contained in the original image. The cleaned up version might be interesting, but the best available unenhanced recording should still be treated as authoritative.
[08:28:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03idetuxs [2990] (Score:1) 02Thanks to the editor - 06Moon Landing Tapes Got Erased, NASA Admits - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:28:39] <exec> 08└─Thanks! I wasted a few minutes in the nasa.gov page and didn't find it, then I saw your comment. :D
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[11:09:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03quadrox [315] (Score:2) 02A bot can't agree to anything - 06Meet Lenny, the Bot that Tricks and Tortures Telemarketers - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:09:00] <exec> 08└─So what - you can't make an agreement with a bot, and it's easy to prove that the bot isn't you, so who cares?
[11:09:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03zugedneb [4556] (Score:2) 02Re:A bot can't agree to anything - 06Meet Lenny, the Bot that Tricks and Tortures Telemarketers - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:09:02] <exec> 08└─well, think about the future... what if it will use the users voice? like, vocaloid, say? over a noisy line, identification might become uncertain. you might have to prove in court that it was a bot, and not a verbal agreement. the second thing is your tone... mature + sensible tone =/= wise, oké?...
[11:09:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03ticho [89] (Score:2) 02Re:A bot can't agree to anything - 06Meet Lenny, the Bot that Tricks and Tortures Telemarketers - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:09:04] <exec> 08└─Still, for important things, a verbal agreement does not even have the value of the paper it's not written on. (credit goes to T. Pratchett)
[11:09:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Just like ... - 06Meet Lenny, the Bot that Tricks and Tortures Telemarketers - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:09:06] <exec> 08└─Just like Pickens for SN editors?
[11:09:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score:2) 02Truly Sick - 06Meet Lenny, the Bot that Tricks and Tortures Telemarketers - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:09:08] <exec> 08└─and to that extent, a wonderfully humorous and sadistic automated weapon against the call center daemons. Bravo!
[11:09:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Cowherd [3699] 02Overpriced art project - 06Making the Censors Watch Paint Dry - 221 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:09:14] <exec> 08└─This seems like an overpriced art project rather than making any kind of statement. Joke's not on BBFC - they get your money. It's not on the filmmaker - he gets credits for a "radical" art project. Joke's on the backers.
[11:09:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Fast Forward? - 06Making the Censors Watch Paint Dry - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:09:24] <exec> 08└─4.5) Announce "Paint Drying 2: The wall strikes back"
[11:09:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Fast Forward? - 06Making the Censors Watch Paint Dry - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:09:26] <exec> 08└─The sequel is about a very volatile stripper - much more interesting!
[11:09:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:Fast Forward? - 06Making the Censors Watch Paint Dry - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:09:28] <exec> 08└─Came here to post this. Alternative: Have the drying paint be the paint on a complex and detailled painting / mural. Start really close up so it's just a full screen of blank colour. Very very slowly, over X hours, pan out until the full painting is revealed at the end. Hidden somewhere in the paint...
[11:09:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:They shut cut in frames of goatse - 06Making the Censors Watch Paint Dry - 460 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:09:30] <exec> 08└─That sounds like a better idea. Make them long enough that a person watching them would notice, but short enough that fast-forwarding would skip them. Possibly helped by creative use om I-frames and P-frames. Make the video 16 hours, and only put them in the second half. That would ensure that they...
[11:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Call a spade, a spade - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 665 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:12] <exec> 08└─Uninstall them and leave feedback for the developers. My bank recently expanded the set of permissions that its app was using. I decided I didn't agree with it and uninstalled the app. Now I pop into a local branch every few weeks (I don't actually have to, I still do most things on the web and coul...
[11:10:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score:2) 02Fort Meade called - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:10:23] <exec> 08└─You bought your wife the wrong brand of tampons. A courtesy service of your friends at the NSA.
[11:10:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03quadrox [315] (Score:2) 02Hot water is not correct - 06The End of Antibiotics - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:37] <exec> 08└─Hot water does not help: http://info.debgroup.com [debgroup.com]
[11:10:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheLink [332] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Fitness cost - 06The End of Antibiotics - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:38] <exec> 08└─There's a fitness cost for multidrug resistance
[11:10:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:biological warfare - 06The End of Antibiotics - 508 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:46] <exec> 08└─I don't understand. How is living in-doors and cleaning yourself like crazy in any way related to antibiotic abuse? As far as I can tell, such a lifestyle (while most likely very bad for the person themselves) would not lead to bacteria developing antibiotic resistance. Am I wrong? Or maybe there's...
[11:10:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score:1) 02Re:biological warfare - 06The End of Antibiotics - 379 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:48] <exec> 08└─I tend to disagree. Not only is his opinion incorrect, it is needlessly inflammatory, qualifying it as a troll. Historically, hygiene has won the war over microbes. If we create an environment where sick people are immediately isolated, highly virulent microbes do not stand a chance. See how the las...
[11:12:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Easy Fix - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 618 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:12:31] <exec> 08└─If it were some ethical issue then hedge funds and banks would not be able to hire so many of the top computer science graduates / PhDs. The difference between the banks and the government? An extra zero on the end of the salary. Anyone moderately competent in cybersecurity can get a job earning twi...
[11:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:I don't see how this can work - 06Introducing Bladeless Wind Turbines - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:13:34] <exec> 08└─And, okay, I get that the editors don't read the other site anymore. That's fine, I won't expect them to look for recent dupes. But this thing was on Slashdot before Soylent even existed and still appears to be no closer to any kind of actual deployment.
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[12:08:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02So glad! I'm a college vegan! - 06FDA Approves a GMO Animal for Human Consumption for the First Time - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:08:53] <exec> 08└─I'm so vegan. I won't be eating any fish until after I graduate, when peer pressure makes me abandon my elitist vegan lifestyle to fit in with the money crowd because I like fitting in and doing things for money. Follow me on Fishfuck, two years from now!
[12:09:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02I approve - 06Meet Lenny, the Bot that Tricks and Tortures Telemarketers - 2644 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:09:14] <exec> 08└─I've been doing this in a non-automated fashion for years now, when I have the time. It's childish but every second of theirs that I waste is money out of their pockets, and another victim whose phone doesn't ring needlessly today. Some of my personal favourites: "Good afternoon, I'm calling to say...
[12:09:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03KritonK [465] (Score:2) 02Re:And the point is? - 06Making the Censors Watch Paint Dry - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:09:26] <exec> 08└─Perhaps they can fast-forward the video, but what about the audio? There could be profanities hiding in there! To ensure that the film is watched, it should therefore have an audio track. It should be as boring as possible; imagine having to watch paint dry for more than seven hours, listening to so...
[12:11:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Let the dead bury their dead - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:11:51] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I noticed a few of them. Aside from Spam abuse and mod-bombs though, that's up to the people who have integrity to correct with their own mod points. That's why so many of them get given out every day. Beats the hell out of us staff types deciding whose opinions carry more weight.
[12:11:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Let the dead bury their dead - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:11:52] <exec> 08└─Oh and Disagree doesn't adjust the score. It's a +0 mod. Just makes it more likely that Disagree will show up as the reason for the score.
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[13:09:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Soylent - 06FDA Approves a GMO Animal for Human Consumption for the First Time - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:09:08] <exec> 08└─Soylent Pink... it's Frankenstein!
[13:09:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03hankwang [100] (Score:2) 02Transcript? - 06FDA Approves a GMO Animal for Human Consumption for the First Time - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:09:09] <exec> 08└─Are there any written transcripts of Lenny's conversations?
[13:09:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02AquaBounty - 06FDA Approves a GMO Animal for Human Consumption for the First Time - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:09:10] <exec> 08└─So these fish are coconut flavoured [wikipedia.org] then?
[13:09:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02I'd eat it - 06FDA Approves a GMO Animal for Human Consumption for the First Time - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:09:12] <exec> 08└─I love salmon. I have no problem eating farmed salmon, and don't see this as much different.
[13:09:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:A bot can't agree to anything - 06Meet Lenny, the Bot that Tricks and Tortures Telemarketers - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:09:31] <exec> 08└─i thought that was a yogi-ism: Oral contracts aren't worth the paper they are written on, is how i remember it...
[13:09:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03hankwang [100] (Score:2) 02Transcript? - 06Meet Lenny, the Bot that Tricks and Tortures Telemarketers - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:09:36] <exec> 08└─Are there any transcripts of Lenny's conversations?
[13:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Android app? - 06Meet Lenny, the Bot that Tricks and Tortures Telemarketers - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:09:37] <exec> 08└─This needs someone to package it into an app that you can redirect calls to.
[13:11:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fitness cost - 06The End of Antibiotics - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:11] <exec> 08└─The link just looks like regular DNA vaccination. They codon optimize for better translation and put the entire gene downstream a promoter.
[13:12:20] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03deimtee [3272] 02Re:Let the dead bury their dead - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 314 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:12:20] <exec> 08└─If you read the article and the comments, one of the medallion companies main complaints is that their drivers are leaving to drive for Uber. The people mainly being hurt are the rent-seeking medallion owners. There are having to pay their drivers decent wages and give them reasonable working condit...
[13:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:Simple answers to the Phoenix666's question - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:39] <exec> 08└─But if they simply can't hire people in the first place, that should get them into the same position a little bit quicker than if they just keep hiring and firing people.
[13:15:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Code talkers - 06Despite Police Panic Over Encryption, Paris Attackers used Plaintext SMS - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:15:33] <exec> 08└─I did mention Sanders, further up in the discussion. I was accused of being "disingenuous" because I hadn't mentioned everybody else.
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[14:08:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Damn religious people - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:08:54] <exec> 08└─Always so darned violent...
[14:08:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Not many details yet - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:08:55] <exec> 08└─I've been following this for - awhile - now. They got about 70 people out, somehow, but details are sadly lacking at this point.
[14:09:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02No contacts seen - 06Redphone and TextSecure are now Signal - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:09:05] <exec> 08└─I have this on IOS9, but it doesn't "see" my contact list. I keep my contacts on my own server across many devices and not the icloud/google/somethingsomething solution. This means I can't use it to send invites to the service or anything else for that matter. ;_;
[14:09:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Transcript? - 06FDA Approves a GMO Animal for Human Consumption for the First Time - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:15] <exec> 08└─Lenny the Salmon?
[14:09:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'd eat it - 06FDA Approves a GMO Animal for Human Consumption for the First Time - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:18] <exec> 08└─technically, the worst that could happen is that you'd get cancer because of the extra growth hormones. but I guess that's what the study was watching out for...
[14:09:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'd eat it - 06FDA Approves a GMO Animal for Human Consumption for the First Time - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:20] <exec> 08└─Actually the worst that could happen is something nobody knows. A much more interesting question is what will likely happen, statistically. It will be interesting to watch the results of this human experiment.
[14:09:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:Pacific Chinook salmon - 06FDA Approves a GMO Animal for Human Consumption for the First Time - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:23] <exec> 08└─Mother Gaia didn't intend for the genes to be arranged that way in one salmon!
[14:09:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:2) 02Re:Pacific Chinook salmon - 06FDA Approves a GMO Animal for Human Consumption for the First Time - 2801 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:24] <exec> 08└─Nor did she intend for Down's to occur. Nor did she intend for the world to eat a handful of species of cow because all the others don't produce enough milk/beef. Nor did she intend for the carrot to be bred from small, spindly and purple to large, thick and orange. Nor did she intend for racehorses...
[14:09:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Pacific Chinook salmon - 06FDA Approves a GMO Animal for Human Consumption for the First Time - 486 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:26] <exec> 08└─"then spend decades making sure you haven't broken anything." I see one problem with GMO. Labeling. Decades from now, there MIGHT BE a problem discovered with GMO foods. You can't know, I can't know, and the researchers can't know in advance. After decades of being a guinea pig, it would be nice to...
[14:09:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:2) 02Re:Pacific Chinook salmon - 06FDA Approves a GMO Animal for Human Consumption for the First Time - 576 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:28] <exec> 08└─You're right! Only natural things should be permitted, like: Polio Cancer Death during childbirth Indiscriminate raping and pillaging Misogyny Slavery No rights for women Stoning for heresy I'm so tired of the "but it's not natural" argument that I could spit. Natural was often horrible, and we have...
[14:09:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Pacific Chinook salmon - 06FDA Approves a GMO Animal for Human Consumption for the First Time - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:30] <exec> 08└─I support voluntary sarcasm labeling.
[14:09:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Dominion over the animals - 06FDA Approves a GMO Animal for Human Consumption for the First Time - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:09:32] <exec> 08└─I remember some loony stories about china using genetic modification in order to breed athletes. Would we object to the equivalent modifications being done to humans? If they're just the same, then aren't they just the same? If not, then they're not the same. Make your mind up - are GMOs just the sa...
[14:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:2) 02SO Exciting - 06JWST Primary Mirror Starting To Come Together - 455 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:09:37] <exec> 08└─JWST will be able to analyze the atmospheres of exoplanets: http://jwst.nasa.gov [nasa.gov] If we find an exoplanet with significant oxygen in its atmosphere, we will have a huge piece of evidence for extraterrestrial life. Couple this telescope with this one: http://tess.gsfc.nasa.gov
[14:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Senility - 06Meet Lenny, the Bot that Tricks and Tortures Telemarketers - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:09:54] <exec> 08└─Some telemarketers talk to him for nearly a half-hour, before they figure out that he's either a recording - or senile
[14:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score:2) 02Neat. Can we get an app? - 06Meet Lenny, the Bot that Tricks and Tortures Telemarketers - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:09:55] <exec> 08└─I had the same idea a year ago [reddit.com], neat to see it implemented. Unless it's made available as an Android app, I don't really see the point. (Is that even possible, permissions-wise?)
[14:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Neat. Can we get an app? - 06Meet Lenny, the Bot that Tricks and Tortures Telemarketers - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:57] <exec> 08└─I set up a speed dial to Lenny, so I can conference call him the next time I get a telemarketer.
[14:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Been around for Some Time - 06Meet Lenny, the Bot that Tricks and Tortures Telemarketers - 1205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:09:59] <exec> 08└─http://toao.net/595-lenny [toao.net] As well as that, there used to be a web site with a whole collection of Lenny calls but it has vanished. The recording in the link here is one of the best I have heard though - it loops through the ducks "incident" twice, and it includes it dawning on the call...
[14:11:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:They lack observation skills - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:10] <exec> 08└─If somebody cares enough to snoop in my personal life (to the extent of how I select menu items in my phone app), I must be far more important than I think I am. Put another way: what a colossal waste of time this is, unless I'm pissing off somebody with tremendously more resources than I have, and...
[14:11:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03eravnrekaree [555] (Score:1) 02Antibiotics used to maximize meat growth - 06The End of Antibiotics - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:11:46] <exec> 08└─Antibiotics have been pumped into livestock not out of concern for their health, but to maximize profit by accelerating the growth of the animal. This has many harmful effects on the animal and could be called a medical disorder. The industry basically intentionally induces abnormal growth disease i...
[14:12:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Let the dead bury their dead - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:34] <exec> 08└─Throughout a trip in India, I just tracked the route with GPS and maps before and as we were driving (none of the meters were off). I'm not sure how much people have to worry about meter abuse these days, especially in the US.
[14:12:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Let the dead bury their dead - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:47] <exec> 08└─Those aren't really a fair comparison. The Uber drivers are already licenced to drive with passengers. Maybe something closer to a cancer specialist prescribing drugs for an infection, instead of an ID specialist, or a divorce lawyer working a shoplifting case.
[14:12:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Daiv [3940] (Score:3, Informative) 02Planet Money Story on Medallions - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 467 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:12:58] <exec> 08└─Planet Money did a really good story on NY cab medallions a while ago: http://www.npr.org [npr.org] Here's what NY should do to keep the value of medallions artificially inflated, which is what these medallion owners seem to want. Revoke...
[14:13:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] 02Re:Xena! - 06'Fourth Strand' of European Ancestry Originated With Hunter-gatherers Isolated by Ice Age - 38 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:09] <exec> 08└─Don't know why this got an offtopic...
[14:13:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Seriously, Soylentils: - 06'Fourth Strand' of European Ancestry Originated With Hunter-gatherers Isolated by Ice Age - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:16] <exec> 08└─I do remember something about the piss of a read headded boy, being the accidental discovery of quenching and copied for years - to the exact details, to make the strongest swords of the time...
[14:15:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:re Pernicious Belief - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:35] <exec> 08└─How much training would it take to out-run Usain Bolt?
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[15:08:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Transcrpit - 06Forest Fires: Scientists Find Surprising Way to See Religious Effects From Space - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:08:52] <exec> 08└─Yes, but are there any written transcripts of Lenny's conversations?
[15:09:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Damn religious people - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:01] <exec> 08└─I know... its always a brawl smackdown whenever I goto church. Its been pretty cool since they added in the cage for the one on one cage matches.
[15:09:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Damn religious people - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:04] <exec> 08└─shouting "God is great!" in Arabic
[15:09:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Damn religious people - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:06] <exec> 08└─Tempting explanation, since for once the violence in Mali is Jihadis, but not really accurate. There's a civil war for the independence of North Mali going on. These are some opportunists taking advantage of existing strife to push their stupid agenda among a pile of other stupid, violent, often sec...
[15:09:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:2) 02Re:Not many details yet - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:07] <exec> 08└─Details will come, but I heard that there were 70 left after they released people who could recite from the Koran.
[15:09:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Informative) 02What's behind this - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 738 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:09] <exec> 08└─There's been a civil war in Mali [wikipedia.org] going on for the last 3 years. The losing side (a group calling itself the "National Movement for the Liberation of Azawad" or MNLA, Azawad being the region they were based in) has occasionally engaged in terrorist attacks since their official surrend...
[15:09:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:2) 02Loss in translation? - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:11] <exec> 08└─shooting and shouting "God is great!" in Arabic.
[15:09:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Loss in translation? - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:13] <exec> 08└─I kind of understand because any "Ackbar" I want to follow with "It's a Trap!"
[15:09:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Loss in translation? - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:15] <exec> 08└─E. Fight for your own values and country.
[15:09:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Loss in translation? - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:17] <exec> 08└─The phrase is "Allahu Akbar," Allah is the word for God (according to some sources one of the God who was inside Kaaba), and the conjugated form "Allahu" means "Allah is" AFAIK. "Akbar" is meant to be "the Greatest," or the greatest among Gods, which is not an interpretation any Muslim will admit to...
[15:09:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03kadal [4731] (Score:2) 02Re:No contacts seen - 06Redphone and TextSecure are now Signal - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:21] <exec> 08└─Have you reported it? https://github.com [github.com]
[15:09:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03boltronics [580] (Score:2) 02Where's the F-Droid repository? - 06Redphone and TextSecure are now Signal - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:23] <exec> 08└─Open source code, but not very committed to "open source" or free software in practise. No F-droid repository, and as I understand it, this is not a priority for Open Whisper Systems. Oh well.
[15:09:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03kadal [4731] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:Where's the F-Droid repository? - 06Redphone and TextSecure are now Signal - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:26] <exec> 08└─That's what I thought. Then I read this: https://github.com [github.com] . I think his stance is not unreasonable.
[15:09:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03radu [1919] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Where's the F-Droid repository? - 06Redphone and TextSecure are now Signal - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:27] <exec> 08└─Actually only the last sentence makes sense (but it's enough sense for me): if you aren't able to build TextSecure from source, you probably aren't capable of managing the risks associated with 3rd party sources.
[15:09:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03drgibbon [74] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Where's the F-Droid repository? - 06Redphone and TextSecure are now Signal - 1402 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:29] <exec> 08└─Moxie is definitely not against free software, his concerns are security based. There's a thread on the Github tracker [github.com] where he explains why he prefers that F-Droid don't package Signal (back when it was TextSecure). Of course someone could just package it anyway, but ok, the guy has co...
[15:09:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Re:Soylent - 06FDA Approves a GMO Animal for Human Consumption for the First Time - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:36] <exec> 08└─It's salmon! Soylent pink is salmon!!!
[15:09:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02See, that's the thing. - 06FDA Approves a GMO Animal for Human Consumption for the First Time - 810 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:44] <exec> 08└─I'm glad you'd eat it. I'd like to read the research a bit myself, but after literally years I generally believe the FDA has science on its side here. But the problem I see is that the decision (whether I'm comfortable eating this) should IMO be mine. Whether I think the fish is safe or not, I'd lik...
[15:09:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Re:Pacific Chinook salmon - 06FDA Approves a GMO Animal for Human Consumption for the First Time - 486 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:47] <exec> 08└─"then spend decades making sure you haven't broken anything." I see one problem with GMO. Labeling. Decades from now, there MIGHT BE a problem discovered with GMO foods. You can't know, I can't know, and the researchers can't know in advance. After decades of being a guinea pig, it would be nice to...
[15:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pacific Chinook salmon - 06FDA Approves a GMO Animal for Human Consumption for the First Time - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:51] <exec> 08└─Well, that escalated quickly.
[15:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score:2) 02to or of? - 06FDA Approves a GMO Animal for Human Consumption for the First Time - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:53] <exec> 08└─The Food and Drug Administration has given its first approval for human consumption to a genetically modified animal
[15:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:SO Exciting - 06JWST Primary Mirror Starting To Come Together - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:01] <exec> 08└─I agree, this excellent tech, a great multipartite collaboration. However, am I the only one who thinks it looks suspiciously like an Imperator-class Star Destroyer?
[15:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03ticho [89] (Score:2) 02Re:A bot can't agree to anything - 06Meet Lenny, the Bot that Tricks and Tortures Telemarketers - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:15] <exec> 08└─It's possible. I am just crediting the source I got it from - Moving Pictures book, by Pratchett.
[15:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03module0000 [5955] (Score:1) 02Re:I approve - 06Meet Lenny, the Bot that Tricks and Tortures Telemarketers - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:19] <exec> 08└─Laughed out loud reading these...pure comedy gold, keep up the good work!
[15:10:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03snick [1408] (Score:2) 02Only say hello once - 06Meet Lenny, the Bot that Tricks and Tortures Telemarketers - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:26] <exec> 08└─When you answer the phone, only say "hello" once, and then just wait. A lot of telemarketing systems wait until you say "hello" to transfer to a person, and if the person doesn't hear you repeating "hello" they will hang up. I use a full frontal assault when I get the outright scam calls ("this is t...
[15:10:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:2) 02Re:Not a good idea - 06Making the Censors Watch Paint Dry - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:51] <exec> 08└─Maybe instead of a brick wall it can be paint drying on the skin of a woman built like a brick house.
[15:10:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:2) 02Re:Not a good idea - 06Making the Censors Watch Paint Dry - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:52] <exec> 08└─They watched that part a dozen times, just to be sure.
[15:11:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:Call a spade, a spade - 06Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - 1422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:28] <exec> 08└─This is why I love Cyanogenmod... Quick example -- I recently installed WhatsApp (after my coworkers spent weeks harassing me about it...) It wants a hell of a lot of access, but I'm not giving it. At first the app wouldn't work at all, until I relented a bit and gave it access to my contacts list,...
[15:12:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03JeanCroix [573] (Score:2) 02Re:Same as ever - 06Google Refuses to Give Up On Google+ - 459 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:32] <exec> 08└─I used to have a Google+, but after several years of it being idle - only three friends/family members ever got accounts, and none of us ever really posted anything there - I deleted it when word got around that it was possible to do so without messing up other services. The only thing that deleting...
[15:12:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bob_super [1357] 02Re:Let the dead bury their dead - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 328 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:58] <exec> 08└─The monopoly comes with regulations for all parties' safety. Uber &co have not been willing to enforce all regulations, because they happen to cost money. In the end, the people on the ground (drivers, passengers and people living in the area) stand to lose when the events which triggered each regul...
[15:13:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02Re:Let the dead bury their dead - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 1134 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:01] <exec> 08└─So all the city need do is tell the cab companies to go ahead and use an app for dispatching. Problem solved? The Technology of medallions was set up to build trust in the taxi system, which NYC desperately needs. The new technology puts more control in the hands of the customer. The new technology...
[15:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Let the dead bury their dead - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 792 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:21] <exec> 08└─My great grandfather apprenticed to be a doctor. Unfortunately Texas law changed just before he could have become a doctor using that system. After the law change, he couldn't become a doctor without an expensive education he couldn't afford, even though he was just as qualified as all the guys runn...
[15:13:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Let the dead bury their dead - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:22] <exec> 08└─Oh and in college I dated a girl whose father was a practicing doctor in Mexico but who couldn't get licensed to practice medicine when they moved to the U.S. He had the modern university education and everything.
[15:14:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:War on Drugs Blowback - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:30] <exec> 08└─Fuck you. It funds god knows what kind of criminal activity.
[15:15:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Habit formation - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 429 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:49] <exec> 08└─Furthermore, the more you understand math, let's say, the more subsequent iterations of math become comprehensible to you. I do know that the more languages I'm exposed to, the more I can discern and acquire new linguistic constructions. The fact that I have learned Korean and Turkish means that the...
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[16:08:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02God Squad - 06Forest Fires: Scientists Find Surprising Way to See Religious Effects From Space - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:08:55] <exec> 08└─So it's perfectly obvious then that religious people are arsonists as well as all the other atrocities that they commit under God's influence. The best solution would be for all major religions to adopt all seven days of the week as holy days. This would have the additional advantageous side-effect...
[16:08:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:2) 02Contacting God - 06Forest Fires: Scientists Find Surprising Way to See Religious Effects From Space - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:08:56] <exec> 08└─So you're saying that smoke signals work as well as praying?
[16:09:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Loss in translation? - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:09:14] <exec> 08└─That is choosing A or B.
[16:09:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Loss in translation? - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 1125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:09:16] <exec> 08└─If you choose to fight, your options are: A. Fight for your country. Congratulations, you are now a war criminal for acts of torture and sexual violence. B. Fight for your values. Congratulations, you are now an Islamic terrorist. C. Fight for anything else. Congratulations, you are now dead. It's e...
[16:09:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ezber Bozmak [764] (Score:2) 02Re:Loss in translation? - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 593 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:09:18] <exec> 08└─> Do you consider dealing with the KKK in charge rather than the now-tyrannical government? Which is exactly what happened in Iran. The KKK are a bunch of religious nutjobs (they were founded on christmas eve by a bunch of methodists, they burn crosses and they claim to be [adl.org] churches [splcen...
[16:09:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Loss in translation? - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 517 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:09:20] <exec> 08└─The intended implication of that construction isn't that Allah is greater than all other gods, but rather that he's the greatest possible thing. Literally the only statement of faith that's mandatory in Islam is stating "There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his prophet." "Allahu Akbar" isn't so...
[16:09:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Loss in translation? - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 633 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:09:22] <exec> 08└─I thought the 'akbar part was an absolute, not a comparitive - simply "the great", not "the greatest". That which would support the extremists interpretation - he is *the* great, not merely one, and the best, of many greats. (And yes, I am aware that "al-" is the "the" word, and you sometimes see "a...
[16:09:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Loss in translation? - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:09:23] <exec> 08└─Funny, I think the same exact thing every time I see Tori Spelling [previously.tv].
[16:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pacific Chinook salmon - 06FDA Approves a GMO Animal for Human Consumption for the First Time - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:00] <exec> 08└─Hitler would approve.
[16:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:SO Exciting - 06JWST Primary Mirror Starting To Come Together - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:12] <exec> 08└─and we'll have a real chance of finding life in the next 5 years or so.
[16:10:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Android app? - 06Meet Lenny, the Bot that Tricks and Tortures Telemarketers - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:33] <exec> 08└─I would say redirect to not just any random person, but to people like accident lawyers and used car salesmen, politicians and bankers. We could consider it matchmaking, if you like, putting one kind of scumbag together with another.
[16:10:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:And the point is? - 06Making the Censors Watch Paint Dry - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:51] <exec> 08└─Feed the 2015 tax code into a text-to-speech app so they can enjoy what they do to the taxpayers.
[16:10:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:And the point is? - 06Making the Censors Watch Paint Dry - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:52] <exec> 08└─Beat me to it. Write a script which randomly slaps together pics under Creative Commons, with attributions, and a random sentence picked from a random 3-letter.com website. It won't be boring...
[16:11:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Fast Forward? - 06Making the Censors Watch Paint Dry - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:02] <exec> 08└─I like that thinking. Or, a video that's almost pure white playing very slowly.
[16:12:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:biological warfare - 06The End of Antibiotics - 5 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:29] <exec> 08└─ebola
[16:12:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:biological warfare - 06The End of Antibiotics - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:30] <exec> 08└─Historically, hygiene has won the war over microbes.
[16:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Xena! - 06'Fourth Strand' of European Ancestry Originated With Hunter-gatherers Isolated by Ice Age - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:02] <exec> 08└─Not really. The worst VDs came from the Americas and more recently Africa. Ice age Europe was a free love paradise. Of course, back then your choices would be limited. You either make do with your sister or go across the glacier for two weeks to meet your cousin in the biblical sense.
[16:14:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03aclarke [2049] (Score:2) 02Drugs - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:28] <exec> 08└─A hedge fund will hire you as a quant even if you show up at the interview strung out on coke. The FBI won't.
[16:15:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03saltycraig [5954] (Score:1) 02Re:Simple answers to the Phoenix666's question - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 369 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:03] <exec> 08└─This! I have known a couple people who worked briefly for the feds in intelligence and the top secret requirements (10 years of explaining everything about your whereabouts/actions, 9-12 months of paperwork usually), plus the requirement to not having to have smoked/eaten/whatever in the past 4 year...
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[17:08:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Parsimony of it - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 373 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:08:52] <exec> 08└─I appreciate the parsimony of it, but it's still bugs. Bugs are not terribly fun to eat. Real yuck factor. Alas I have been trying to cultivate spirulina, because eating an algae that's a perfect food is more appealing in a similar footprint, but have not had much luck so far. I would raise chickens...
[17:08:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Fuck You - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:08:53] <exec> 08└─I'm not giving up my tastes for prime cut cow flesh, pork chops and bacon, chickens, and endangered sea creatures. Eating bugs is for bushniggers and Mali scroungers.
[17:08:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck You - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:08:55] <exec> 08└─Technically, every thing that's turned into food is quite endangered.
[17:08:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Great article, but comments made me stupider - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 776 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:08:56] <exec> 08└─Interesting article and a great submission for SN, but I made the mistake of reading the comments under the article. The derp hurts. I think this will become a thing, in time. You'll see a few ecohipster types taking on bug consumption over the next few years. It will develop into a weird niche, fro...
[17:08:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Great article, but comments made me stupider - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:08:58] <exec> 08└─> but I made the mistake of reading the comments under the article. The derp hurts. Try omeopathy. Researcher: Katharina Unger Complete surname, Unger Von Insektz?
[17:09:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02In Stereo (type)! - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:19] <exec> 08└─"always" Yeah, those devout Jains are just so unbelievably violent.
[17:09:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:Loss in translation? - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 1125 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:27] <exec> 08└─If you choose to fight, your options are: A. Fight for your country. Congratulations, you are now a war criminal for acts of torture and sexual violence. B. Fight for your values. Congratulations, you are now an Islamic terrorist. C. Fight for anything else. Congratulations, you are now dead. It's e...
[17:09:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Loss in translation? - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:30] <exec> 08└─...but by far the most organized and powerful resistance movement in your area is the local chapter of the KKK.
[17:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Loss in translation? - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 915 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:34] <exec> 08└─Let us be judgemental. We are dealing with a religion where lying is considered moral, buggering children is 'part of their culture' and murder and war is a way of life. How obvious does Evil have to be before we in the West can say what is self evidently true and call it out? There will be no peace...
[17:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Update: All hostages rescued - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:36] <exec> 08└─Mali hotel attack: 'No more hostages' after special forces raid http://www.bbc.com [bbc.com] Errrrr - correction. One of those killed was Geoffrey Dieudonne, a member of parliament in Belgium's Wallonia region. US special forces had helped in the hostage rescue operation....
[17:10:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Pacific Chinook salmon - 06FDA Approves a GMO Animal for Human Consumption for the First Time - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:11] <exec> 08└─Well that's easy--add in a gene to make your poo glow in the dark, then you'll know.
[17:10:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02The power to detect a planet is insignificant... - 06JWST Primary Mirror Starting To Come Together - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:27] <exec> 08└─Well, it sorta does, but with a Death Star-like multi-beam laser cannon mounted on it instead of the usual bridge. They cancelled the TPF (Terrestrial Planet Finder) so maybe instead we'll have the TPD (Terrestrial Planet Destroyer). Hey, it's a great way to get DOD to pay part of it.
[17:10:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:A bot can't agree to anything - 06Meet Lenny, the Bot that Tricks and Tortures Telemarketers - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:43] <exec> 08└─> So what - you can't make an agreement with a bot... O RLY? I think that your mom is a honest person, do you agree?
[17:10:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Transcript? - 06Meet Lenny, the Bot that Tricks and Tortures Telemarketers - 3729 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:49] <exec> 08└─I wrote one up for James from Comcast Business is 'so mad' that Lenny is a recording [youtube.com]: LENNY: Hello, th-this is Lenny. JAMES: Hello, Lenny, uh, wh-wh, uh, James from Comcast Business. LENNY: Er, sr-sorry, I-I can barely hear ya there. JAMES: Oh, I'm sorry, yes, James with Comcast Busin...
[17:10:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Transcript? - 06Meet Lenny, the Bot that Tricks and Tortures Telemarketers - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:51] <exec> 08└─This reddit post [reddit.com] has three more transcripts.
[17:10:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Been around for Some Time - 06Meet Lenny, the Bot that Tricks and Tortures Telemarketers - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:59] <exec> 08└─They used to call me a few times per week. I gave them the runaround also, until I get tired of it. The last time they called, I told them to call me back on my landline because this was my carphone, and gave them a hilarious number to call. Never got another call after that.
[17:11:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03OrugTor [5147] (Score:1) 02best reply - 06Meet Lenny, the Bot that Tricks and Tortures Telemarketers - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:11:01] <exec> 08└─If everyone screamed "FUCK YOU!" on every scammer call how long would it take to run out of would-be scammers?
[17:11:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02Re:And the point is? - 06Making the Censors Watch Paint Dry - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:15] <exec> 08└─VLC does a really good job with time stretching. Really great for lectures (playback quickly until you hit the relevant part). You could probably watch paint dry at 4x speed and not miss any profanities. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[17:13:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I've been increasingly using DuckDuckGo but... - 06Google Refuses to Give Up On Google+ - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:17] <exec> 08└─Google has more sites in its index. Sometimes when I can't find something on DuckDuckGo I can google it.
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[18:08:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03dmbasso [3237] (Score:2) 02Re:Parsimony of it - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 579 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:54] <exec> 08└─Two days ago I manually cleaned whole shrimps, for the first (and probably last) time in my life. While I was doing it I couldn't stop thinking how similar that would be for insects. It is just a matter of how it is prepared and presented. If it is convenient (cleaning shrimp is not, at least with m...
[18:08:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Life cycle - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:08:59] <exec> 08└─What is not addressed n the article is whether the bugbox supports a complete beetle lifecycle, or whether you have to keep restocking it with mailorder "microlivestock" kits. In other words, does this system allow any of the mealworms to develop into beetles and seed the next generation? Also, what...
[18:09:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02Where's the Meat? - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 715 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:09:00] <exec> 08└─I actually like this idea. Even just as a composting technique, it is effectively Vermicompost https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] However, it is not like we don't have non-meat sources of protein available. Tofu, eggs, vegetables, nuts, fish for example have smaller environme...
[18:09:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02No Agenda - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 1136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:09:02] <exec> 08└─I listen to the No Agenda podcast, mostly for laughs. John Dvorak is an entertaining and competent writer and has been reporting on technology for decades. He's not too far out there most of the time, but can be somewhat abrasive and overly-opinionated. His cohost however, Adam Curry, is in the same...
[18:09:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Oops - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:09:04] <exec> 08└─Of course, that assumes people will be willing to eat them. [...] says Unger adding that sushi, raw fish, and tofu were once considered obscure products.
[18:09:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:God Squad - 06Forest Fires: Scientists Find Surprising Way to See Religious Effects From Space - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:13] <exec> 08└─Your reasoning is too simple. Not all fires are arson. I can only read the abstract but they say most active fires are for land clearance and/or maintenance. Which makes sense because a lot of rural and modern 3rd world dispose of trash by burning it. That includes leaves, tree limbs, and other land...
[18:09:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Doesn't rainfall vary weekly as well? - 06Forest Fires: Scientists Find Surprising Way to See Religious Effects From Space - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:09:15] <exec> 08└─I seem to recall reading that in some parts of the word rainfall varies on a weekly cycle thanks to human activity. Maybe it puts the fires out!
[18:09:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Doesn't rainfall vary weekly as well? - 06Forest Fires: Scientists Find Surprising Way to See Religious Effects From Space - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:17] <exec> 08└─Yes, perhaps the holy days were chosen (on purpose or through selection) as the ones when it was safest to rest.
[18:09:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Loss in translation? - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 1744 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:09:39] <exec> 08└─Ok, you don't think it would be the KKK? Here are some other options: - The Michigan Militia and similar groups. - The Bloods, the Crips, or another gang. - Aryan Nation and other Neo-Nazi organizations. - A cult with a similar apocalyptic outlook as the Branch Davidians of Waco Texas. - Church of S...
[18:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Loss in translation? - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:09:40] <exec> 08└─That makes my "Government or the KKK?" scenario not as far-fetched as it sounds.
[18:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Loss in translation? - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:09:41] <exec> 08└─In a crisis, 50 well-armed people in the backwoods loyal to an Imperial Wizard is a more effective fighting force than most people or organizations can put together. For the sole reason that everybody else is even weaker.
[18:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Where's the F-Droid repository? - 06Redphone and TextSecure are now Signal - 2811 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:01] <exec> 08└─I am getting a similar impression: not a lot of care be it the user freedom or the user security. Seriously, let's have a discussion, because sometimes I feel like either me or the hole world is going crazy, and either possibility is really bad :) What can we infer about a security solution provide...
[18:10:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] 02I approve - 06Meet Lenny, the Bot that Tricks and Tortures Telemarketers - 2644 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:59] <exec> 08└─I've been doing this in a non-automated fashion for years now, when I have the time. It's childish but every second of theirs that I waste is money out of their pockets, and another victim whose phone doesn't ring needlessly today. Some of my personal favourites: "Good afternoon, I'm calling to say...
[18:11:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:best reply - 06Meet Lenny, the Bot that Tricks and Tortures Telemarketers - 469 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:13] <exec> 08└─Quite quickly, but you'll never get everyone to do it. Better to waste the scammer/marketer's time, without wasting too much of your own. Hear out their introductory spiel, and then say :- "That sounds great, but I'm not the person it's best to speak to. I know he will be very interested - I'll fe...
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[19:08:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Heard about this - 06The Weather Modification Industry - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:08:53] <exec> 08└─They use NHST to tell if it is working... that means it is most likely snake oil. On the other hand I am sure it does something.
[19:08:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Heard about this - 06The Weather Modification Industry - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:54] <exec> 08└─I had to Google to find out what NHST is. For anyone else who wants to know it is "null hypothesis significance testing." There's a page about it on less wrong [lesswrong.com].
[19:08:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:2) 02The insurance companies pay for it here. - 06The Weather Modification Industry - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:08:56] <exec> 08└─Here in Calgary, we get some pretty big hail storms from time to time that cause a lot of damage so the insurance companies pay to have potential hail storms seeded and lessen the impact. Sometimes you see these little planes darting ahead of huge thunderheads with lightning all around. It's pretty...
[19:09:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Valkor [4253] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Parsimony of it - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:06] <exec> 08└─I dunno what problem cmn32480 is having with it, I can't keep a fish tank WITHOUT growing the stuff like crazy. Just put it in some partial sunlight (or full sunlight if you're crazy) and in a week it'll be everywhere. Of course I'm not 100% sure this is the same algae, I don't have the tools or ski...
[19:09:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Parsimony of it - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 872 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:07] <exec> 08└─I actually like fried silkworm pupae- Thai style. I've never tried the Beijing style or the canned ones (which are apparently crap and foul-tasting). The vendor typically sprays some slightly salty sauce on it (maybe has msg and pepper?) and some vendors add some herbs/fragrant leaves. It's a bit li...
[19:09:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Parsimony of it - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:09] <exec> 08└─Wow, I went to Amazon and searched for silkworm pupae, and it's there. Not fresh though, and it appears to be for pet food. But today I ate cheese curds we ordered off of amazon, so if we can get those, maybe it's not long till you can get your silkworm pupae and fry them at home.
[19:09:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score:2) 02Re:Parsimony of it - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 876 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:11] <exec> 08└─Its all about Perception. Lobster, crab, shrimp, prawns. As a friend calls them "sea bugs". We consider them delicacies even though they are more closely related to cockroaches than than anything else humans eat. Clam, abalone, oysters. Most closely related to snails. Escargot, A common garden snail...
[19:09:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02Re:Life cycle - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:17] <exec> 08└─From the Kickstarter I believe it is the complete lifecycle. There is a cross-sectional which has a pupae shelf and a dotted line to the top where the beetles get busy.
[19:09:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Life cycle - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 593 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:19] <exec> 08└─the one picture on the livin farms site shows 'pupae are put back into top to restart lifecycle', which i gather means you just take some of the meal worms and pop them in the top so they'll grow into beetles and continue from there. i used to raise mealworms for my turtle: it's easy, but this seems...
[19:09:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Oops - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:22] <exec> 08└─You can pass on them now. But wait for tyranny of majority, none of us will be safe. The eco-hipsters will eventually turn each of us into ouroboros, I mean why waste all that feces right?
[19:09:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Oops - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:24] <exec> 08└─+1 agree, except I do like tofu, properly prepared.
[19:09:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Eh... - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:09:26] <exec> 08└─I don't much care where the meat I eat comes from, if it's tasty (I also prefer veggie burgers and sausages to the real thing)... but mushing up a whole mealworm makes me a little squicky. I mean, do mealworms poop? Cuz you'll be eating mealworm poop and guts.
[19:09:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:2) 02Re:Eh... - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:27] <exec> 08└─You are correct, they do in fact frass [wikipedia.org].
[19:09:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I grow my protein in my pants - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:09:29] <exec> 08└─Cheaper
[19:09:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score:2) 02No. - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:09:31] <exec> 08└─Never. Ever.
[19:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:God Squad - 06Forest Fires: Scientists Find Surprising Way to See Religious Effects From Space - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:39] <exec> 08└─Not going to happen. The true believers need to spend plenty of time earning money to tithe.
[19:09:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02What's behind this - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 738 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:09:57] <exec> 08└─There's been a civil war in Mali [wikipedia.org] going on for the last 3 years. The losing side (a group calling itself the "National Movement for the Liberation of Azawad" or MNLA, Azawad being the region they were based in) has occasionally engaged in terrorist attacks since their official surrend...
[19:10:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:Loss in translation? - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:04] <exec> 08└─The idealists in Iran made common cause with the religious nutjobs to overthrow the repressive shaw
[19:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:2) 02Re:Loss in translation? - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:09] <exec> 08└─Tell me more about this "Imperial Wizard." The FSM hasn't come through with the number of strippers I was led to believe were coming.
[19:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:2) 02Re:Loss in translation? - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 1874 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:13] <exec> 08└─Yes some people may feel it is not anti polytheistic, but there is evidence to the contrary. Ask yourself: do Muslims believe there is only one God, or only one true God? If they believe there is only one God, then surely the Jews and the Christians all worship the same God. In which case wtf, right...
[19:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Loss in translation? - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:15] <exec> 08└─Are you going to tell me that you cannot understand why people who ought to get along don't because of stupid trivial differences in their beliefs? Have you met people?
[19:10:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:2) 02Re:Loss in translation? - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:17] <exec> 08└─Yes of course, I was being facetious.
[19:10:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Loss in translation? - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 914 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:18] <exec> 08└─Let us be judgemental. We are dealing with a religion where lying is considered moral, buggering children is 'part of their culture' and murder and war is a way of life. How obvious does Evil have to be before we in the West can say what is self evidently true and call it out? There will be no peace...
[19:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:2) 02Re:Update: All hostages rescued - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:21] <exec> 08└─Good news. But I wonder why special forces were involved. Must have been a high value hostage in there or something to get that kind of attention. So many times US special forces are not sent in but they were this time, hmmm.
[19:10:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03kadal [4731] 02Re:Where's the F-Droid repository? - 06Redphone and TextSecure are now Signal - 177 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:33] <exec> 08└─That's what I thought. Then I read this: https://github.com [github.com] . I think his stance is not unreasonable.
[19:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Where's the F-Droid repository? - 06Redphone and TextSecure are now Signal - 568 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:37] <exec> 08└─I agree with you to some extent, but there is a fundamental problem here: Most users don't want to give up convenience for privacy and security. Oftentimes non-free proprietary software is more convenient at the moment (not to mention pushed on people by multi-million dollar ad campaigns which of co...
[19:11:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:Overpriced art project - 06Making the Censors Watch Paint Dry - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:59] <exec> 08└─Its worse than that. The people sitting through it are NOT the decision makers responsible. As always, the heads of bureaucracies make the plebs suffer the sharp end of their dull policies while patting themselves on the back for a job well done. Utterly pathetic...
[19:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Fitness cost - 06The End of Antibiotics - 402 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:30] <exec> 08└─Phage therapy isn't it. It's a reasonable choice to antibiotics not working, but it's not a targeted antigen to a particular gene. CRISPR is closeer, but that's not a treatment, but rather a technique. Monoclonal antibodies are a related approach, but still not the same thing. And I can't think of t...
[19:13:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Hot water is not correct - 06The End of Antibiotics - 775 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:33] <exec> 08└─Warm water is more effective than cold water because oils dissolve more easily in warm water. It also drys out the skin faster, so you need to use oils afterwards to prevent rough skin, which makes you MORE succeptible to bacteria. This is also why soapand water is more effective than just water. I'...
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[20:08:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Quality - 06Western Digital, SanDisk, and the NAND Market - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:08:52] <exec> 08└─WD needs to get its shit together on quality before worrying about shaving off a few more pennies from production.
[20:09:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmn32480 [443] (Score:2) 02Re:Parsimony of it - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:14] <exec> 08└─The problem I'm having with what? I am so VERY confused!
[20:09:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Parsimony of it - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 516 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:15] <exec> 08└─I think one of the key things here is scale too. A shrimp is really close to the bottom on my scale. You manually cleaned and processed those shrimp by removing the head, legs, shell, tail, and finally devaining (poo removal). That just isn't doable with insects and so they lie below my "it is food"...
[20:09:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Parsimony of it - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 532 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:19] <exec> 08└─Actually I think you can get the Thai style ones: http://www.amazon.co.uk [amazon.co.uk] But that's pretty expensive for just 20. http://www.amazon.com [amazon.com] BBQ flavor? Would that really be nice? Don'...
[20:09:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03quacking duck [1395] (Score:2) 02Next (western) generation - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 821 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:22] <exec> 08└─I have friends who love meat but won't eat seafood because they can "see their face", or the texture is too rubbery, or other reasons. For some, this means no whole fish when the head is included. Meanwhile, I have no problem eating shrimp, lobster, and other seafood, but I *am* icked by the thought...
[20:09:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Next (western) generation - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 585 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:24] <exec> 08└─Bushnigger guy here. Your squeamish friends are missing out on the best part of eating fresh ama ebi or lobster sushi - that the still-live creature gets to see you eat its tail, with antennae and legs moving. Then, the chef deep-fries the heads and returns them to you to eat. Its also no secret tha...
[20:09:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Parsimony of it - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:25] <exec> 08└─http://hplusmagazine.com/2013/01/02/abundance-at-the-bottom-algae-based-nutritional-supplement-and-fuel-production/ [hplusmagazine.com] I bet crushed/powdered insects could be used in ways that people would find palatable, but algae could rival it on nutrient content and ability to scale up.. What o...
[20:09:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Great article, but comments made me stupider - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 845 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:29] <exec> 08└─This is the bushnigger guy from below replying to your post. And I pray to Jesus Christ, Buddha, Allah, and Zeus that you are correct, because it will drive the prices of meat - you know, the good stuff like beef - down. Let the hipsters pay top dollar for grasshoppers and mealworms, and let beef be...
[20:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:No Agenda - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:35] <exec> 08└─Anyway, one of their recurring shticks is lampooning stories like this. Their thesis is that insects-as-food is another New World Order plot to make the slaves (working/middle class) eat the cheapest food possible and use media manipulation to convince them it's good for them and for the environment...
[20:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:No Agenda - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:37] <exec> 08└─That reminds me of a certain scene in Snowpiercer [imdb.com].
[20:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Oops - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 537 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:39] <exec> 08└─Well, I mean, ultimately pretty much all meat is fecal matter and dead things converted into plants, converted into animals, and then chopped up and put in friendly little wax paper packages, right? I mean, we don't exactly fertilize crops with rainbows and unicorn horns after all. Really, what's th...
[20:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Oops - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 557 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:41] <exec> 08└─Sushi used to creep me out until I finally tried it, now I love it. Mercury content is a bit of a concern, but it's expensive enough that it keeps me from eating it more than one or twice a month. I'd be eating it much more if it was cheaper, probably dangerously close to daily. It's like the stuff...
[20:09:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Oops - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:43] <exec> 08└─Try tofu in saag paneer. It is a vegan replacement for the paneer, a type of cheese, and a common dish at Indian restaurants these days. Fried tofu has a nicer texture and flavor. You can do it on the stove. Add some spices like cumin or something.
[20:09:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Oops - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 476 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:45] <exec> 08└─I actually enjoy saag paneer quite a bit and I've made my own before, but it never comes out quite like a good Indian place does. Paneer is pretty easy to make and I've never cooked for a woman who wasn't impressed as hell when I tell them I made it from scratch. I haven't tried a tofu variant thoug...
[20:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Oops - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:46] <exec> 08└─Touche indeed. I'm sure the author is reeling from the wit and insight of your personal taste preferences.
[20:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03srobert [4803] (Score:2) 02Like Circus Monkeys, Consumers Can be Retrained - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:09:50] <exec> 08└─Of course, the answer to the world's food crises is re-branding. I should have known. Look, instead of retraining the ignorant masses to enjoy eating insects, why don't we just retrain them to eat each other. That solves even more problems. "Soylent Green, It's Good for People because it IS People!"
[20:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02algae, lab-grown meat, veggie burgers - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 2026 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:09:51] <exec> 08└─I like the algae idea [hplusmagazine.com] better than worms. It could offer superior nutritional scaling without the yuck factor (or at least a more palatable yuck factor). People who want beef will have a more environmentally-friendly option: lab-grown meat. The cost of lab-grown meat will drop dra...
[20:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:God Squad - 06Forest Fires: Scientists Find Surprising Way to See Religious Effects From Space - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:03] <exec> 08└─Silly post to rebut, but for the record: the recent Paris Attacks occurred on a Friday. "This is likely to be because Friday is 'the day of assembly' and prayer for the Muslim faith, so there is less industrial activity on these days."
[20:10:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Loss in translation? - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:42] <exec> 08└─Let us be judgemental. We are dealing with a religion where lying is considered moral, buggering children is 'part of their culture'.... Yeah, I think we should ban Catholicism too.
[20:10:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Loss in translation? - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 1080 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:43] <exec> 08└─When they start murdering and raping and trying to conquer the world under a black flag of hatred, we can discuss it. Not saying Christendom hasn't had it's bloody parts of history, but that it is -history-. Today we have a hundred or more sects of Christians, several flavors of Jews, Buddhists, Hip...
[20:10:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Update: All hostages rescued - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:48] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I got that impression early on. For one thing, the shooters arrived in a car with diplomatic plates on it. I read a couple things suggesting this is the best (maybe the only decent) hotel in town. so diplomats and such use it. Everyone in the motel is either wealthy or important.
[20:10:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:No contacts seen - 06Redphone and TextSecure are now Signal - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:59] <exec> 08└─well then, code up a fix so it can see your own server, and then side-load it onto your iDevice...you don't have to pay anything to do this now. It's how I got flux onto my iPhone...
[20:11:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03drgibbon [74] 02Re:Where's the F-Droid repository? - 06Redphone and TextSecure are now Signal - 1402 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:03] <exec> 08└─Moxie is definitely not against free software, his concerns are security based. There's a thread on the Github tracker [github.com] where he explains why he prefers that F-Droid don't package Signal (back when it was TextSecure). Of course someone could just package it anyway, but ok, the guy has co...
[20:11:04] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03melikamp [1886] 02Re:Where's the F-Droid repository? - 06Redphone and TextSecure are now Signal - 2811 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:05] <exec> 08└─I am getting a similar impression: not a lot of care be it the user freedom or the user security. Seriously, let's have a discussion, because sometimes I feel like either me or the hole world is going crazy, and either possibility is really bad :) What can we infer about a security solution provide...
[20:11:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score:2) 02Re:Where's the F-Droid repository? - 06Redphone and TextSecure are now Signal - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:07] <exec> 08└─there's a chance that things like TOR could help, even if users would be better off with free platforms
[20:11:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:2) 02Re:SO Exciting - 06JWST Primary Mirror Starting To Come Together - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:46] <exec> 08└─Doesn't seem that unlikely. It is scheduled for launch in 2018...given the usual delays it's probably in space by 2020 and getting data by 2021. I can wait 6 years, anyway.
[20:12:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:first post - 06Meet Lenny, the Bot that Tricks and Tortures Telemarketers - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:03] <exec> 08└─i do not know the laws in every country, but in sweden, i have heard about recording being tampered with. so, in short, never "agree".
[20:12:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03jlv2 [5299] (Score:1) 02disconnected? - 06Meet Lenny, the Bot that Tricks and Tortures Telemarketers - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:12:21] <exec> 08└─I called the supplied number and got a notice the number was disconnected.
[20:12:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:Overpriced art project - 06Making the Censors Watch Paint Dry - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:32] <exec> 08└─If the campaign surpasses that figure, I'll reshoot the film with a longer runtime
[20:12:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:Overpriced art project - 06Making the Censors Watch Paint Dry - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:34] <exec> 08└─Yes, how those pleb censor viewers must suffer, having to watch all that pron. Never mind, if they set up say three monitors next to each other perhaps they could watch a nice "The Sound of Music" remake in the centre of the boring "Paint Drying" and "Titania's Titanic Tits 7", and keep an eye on al...
[20:14:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03CaTfiSh [5221] (Score:1) 02Re:If they're getting desperate ... - 06Google Refuses to Give Up On Google+ - 1098 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:55] <exec> 08└─....and Zurker, the cooperative social network where participants were granted "virtual shares" for signing up. It made sense, since participants are content creators and it was gaining in popularity and Alexis standing. However, the SEC began questioning some aspect of its structure (that was never...
[20:17:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Also much simpler to operate - 06Introducing Bladeless Wind Turbines - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:17:18] <exec> 08└─“It looks like asparagus, It’s much more natural.” Glad we have good science people working on this. If NIMBYs didn't exist I would agree with you. But, they do.
[20:18:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Habit formation - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 1543 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:18:06] <exec> 08└─Barring an intervening head injury, you were doing something horribly wrong. If it took you 2 years to start properly speaking Greek, then you weren't putting the time into things that would take you to the goal. There's plenty of people that manage to get there in under 3 months. Benny Lewis has a...
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[21:08:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Quality - 06Western Digital, SanDisk, and the NAND Market - 801 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:54] <exec> 08└─No, they don't. You have two main choices, WD and Seagate. Both have seen plenty of complaints about reliability and will continue to. Toshiba is still making drives apparently. There's also Buffalo. WD owns HGST but has had to keep operations separate due to the Chinese antitrust regulator. Those o...
[21:08:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02Re:Quality - 06Western Digital, SanDisk, and the NAND Market - 1531 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:55] <exec> 08└─WD is better than Seagate. That's like saying the plague is better than nuclear war, but it's true. I have had more drives fail this year than I've had fail in the past 2 decades, and they were all Seagate. One after the other. And not the usual failing, either, with a few bad sectors you can remap...
[21:09:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02hyperbolic much? - 06The Weather Modification Industry - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:09:07] <exec> 08└─hail, a potential death sentence for farmers like Mrnak
[21:09:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:hyperbolic much? - 06The Weather Modification Industry - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:08] <exec> 08└─unless we are talking about hail so large it could literally kill him, it's hyperbolic to say the destruction of his crops is a death sentence.
[21:09:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:hyperbolic much? - 06The Weather Modification Industry - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:10] <exec> 08└─Obviously a serious situation, I meant to say.
[21:09:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Parsimony of it - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:24] <exec> 08└─I doubt the stuff growing in your fish tank is spirulina. IIUC, spirulina is a variety of marine (i.e. salt water) algae. Certainly every time (rarely) I've tried to eat it it was unedibly high in salt.
[21:09:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Parsimony of it - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:29] <exec> 08└─You can also get cricket flour!
[21:09:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Next (western) generation - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:33] <exec> 08└─I would sooner become a vegetarian than get my meat from bugs. Survival situation? OK, sure. But eating bugs is gross and pointless. Deep-fried scorpions taste like nothing. Silk worms taste like an even nastier version of brussels sprouts. Grasshoppers are usually (as I've had them) like eating sun...
[21:09:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Parsimony of it - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:36] <exec> 08└─New York City and its suburbs have a lot of irritating anti-sustainability and anti-independence ordinances. You're meant to drive everywhere and buy everything. As such, you can't keep food animals on your property.
[21:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fuck You - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 755 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:39] <exec> 08└─And nor should you be forced to give those things up. I am however very happy that regulations and pure market forces will drive up the cost of these things to price most people out of it without coercion. It's a very good thing for all involved when people can't afford to eat meat every day, every...
[21:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fuck You - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 787 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:41] <exec> 08└─Bushnigger guy here. I was born with a rare disorder which allows me to post only in this discussion. I am a native of Chad and my disorder is Fickle Cell Anemia. The parent should be modded up. I do not agree with them but what xe describes is the future of meat. Those who want to eat meat will hav...
[21:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Life cycle - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:48] <exec> 08└─Bushnigger guy here. Ever consider kicking it up a notch and breeding turtles for turtle soup? Would certainly save some effort dishwashing bowls.
[21:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No Agenda - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 611 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:52] <exec> 08└─But that wasn't a conspiracy, it was just exploitation of an extremely abundant and convenient food supply which caused the diet to become monotonous and boring. For another example of his delusion, he thinks the fad of tiny houses, those little one-room dwellings [curbed.com], is also a NWO plot to...
[21:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:Oops - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:01] <exec> 08└─You have to marinade it for ages in diluted soy sauce. Preferably ketjap manis. Then it acquires some taste before you fry it.
[21:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02That's not much meat - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:09] <exec> 08└─At 28 grams per ounce, they're talking 1/2 to 1 pound of meat a week. The average american eats much more than that.
[21:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:2) 02Re:That's not much meat - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:10] <exec> 08└─Per day no less.
[21:10:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:That's not much meat - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 433 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:12] <exec> 08└─There's also this bizarre connection to patriotism and masculinity that meat-eating has in the USA. If you suggest someone's diet has far too much red meat in it, they often react like you just spit on the flag. You'd think a burger a day was in the Bill of Rights or something with how seriously it'...
[21:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Damn religious people - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 445 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:37] <exec> 08└─No, religious people are natural bigots. For Christians it is their first commandment. The very first one. They are not allowed to respect any other religion as much as their own. That shows just how ingrained bigotry is in religion. They certainly are not violent among people that are like-minded,...
[21:10:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Damn religious people - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:38] <exec> 08└─No, religious people are natural bigots That is rich considering the next paragraph you wrote. Talk about bigotry!!! Or maybe you were trying to be ironic?
[21:11:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Loss in translation? - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:11:02] <exec> 08└─Don't forget the 99 names of Allah, [wikipedia.org] which inspired a short lived comic book! [wikipedia.org]
[21:11:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:I'd eat it - 06FDA Approves a GMO Animal for Human Consumption for the First Time - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:49] <exec> 08└─You should watch this. It might not change your mind but at least you'd understand the issues with farmed fish a little better: https://vimeo.com [vimeo.com] (Salmon Confidential).
[21:12:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:to or of? - 06FDA Approves a GMO Animal for Human Consumption for the First Time - 379 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:01] <exec> 08└─Honestly, that could go either way. You give your "seal of approval" to something, not "of" something. Writing the headline was perilous enough. I had to fit in the "human consumption" part in there. "Genetically modified organism animal" only works because GMO has become a standalone noun and adjec...
[21:12:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02You meant degree's! - 06JWST Primary Mirror Starting To Come Together - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:12:13] <exec> 08└─I thought the units for this mirror was specified in radians.
[21:14:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fitness cost - 06The End of Antibiotics - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:33] <exec> 08└─I think the grandparent was just talking about DNA vaccination, but you might be thinking of DNA or RNA aptamers. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[21:17:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:2) 02Re:Simple answers to the Phoenix666's question - 06US Govt Just Can't Hire Enough Cyber-Sherlocks - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:17:22] <exec> 08└─You may not agree with my life choices, but I think it's fair to say that those people that I do affect are fully aware and consenting. I consider that moral. My relationships are based on consent and truthfulness.
[21:18:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Pascal - 06Can You Think Yourself Into a Different Person? - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:18:55] <exec> 08└─Yep. I speak before I think, therefore I am an idiot.
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[22:09:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rich [945] (Score:2) 02What about PCM? - 06Western Digital, SanDisk, and the NAND Market - 740 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:02] <exec> 08└─While ElReg isn't the worst of sources, all this reads a little bit like a pump & dump scheme, where parties vested in flash try to liven up the market a bit to divest. We've got a new technology coming up, Phase Change Memory, that, in its paper form, completely outclasses flash in the durability d...
[22:09:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Parsimony of it - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 1305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:33] <exec> 08└─I've gotten the kit from AlgaeLab [algaelab.org] a couple times and simply can't get the starter bottle to scale up. All the nutrients at the proper concentration, a PH tester to make sure the alkalinity is in the right range. I tried big translucent plastic containers, with an aquarium pump bubblin...
[22:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oops - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:08] <exec> 08└─The Taiwanese fast food place here (part of the Quickly chain) does up their fried tofu with a batter coating, optionally containing chili powder. The outside is rough and crisp but the center is hot and soft.
[22:11:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Loss in translation? - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:11:14] <exec> 08└─There have been more terrorist attacks in the US committed by Christians than by Muslims.
[22:13:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fnord666 [652] (Score:2) 02Re:And the point is? - 06Making the Censors Watch Paint Dry - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:15] <exec> 08└─If one wants to force the censors to watch something, he'd assemble the film from individual still frames of photos and other images taken from the Internet. The censors would have to inspect each frame one by one! Don't forget the audio also, mixed from various noises and random words in all langua...
[22:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Get Paid To Watch Movies All Day! - 06Making the Censors Watch Paint Dry - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:19] <exec> 08└─Be careful what you wish for, fun things become un-fun when you HAVE to do them. Ask a video game tester.
[22:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fnord666 [652] (Score:2) 02Why would it? - 06YouTube to Legally Protect Certain Clearly Fair Use Videos from Bogus DMCA Takedowns - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:45] <exec> 08└─This might help set precedents as to what is clearly fair use. It might make others think twice before filing bogus DMCA takedowns
[22:16:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03archfeld [4650] (Score:2) 02I just want to be sure - 06 Cab Medallion Owners Sue NYC, Blame Uber for Ruining Business - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:16:20] <exec> 08└─I want to be sure that the car I'm getting into is safe, and has the proper insurance so if/when we are T-boned I won't be laying in traction wondering if my cheap a$$ Obamacare healthcare is going to cover my injuries. The method of hailing or the source of the vehicle is otherwise irrelevant to me...
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[23:08:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Low acceleration regime - 06A New Test of General Relativity - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:08:49] <exec> 08└─We need to test it under low acceleration, not high. That is where it seems to fail (rotation curves).
[23:08:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:1, Offtopic) 02General relativity - 06A New Test of General Relativity - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:08:50] <exec> 08└─You can detect general relativity when they start getting promotions while just sitting on their ass in the barracks all day. Special relativity, on other hand, tends to me more characterized by the fact that that their relatives are all already relatives of each other.
[23:09:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bill Dimm [940] (Score:2) 02Re:Quality - 06Western Digital, SanDisk, and the NAND Market - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:01] <exec> 08└─If you want to go by anecdotes...
[23:09:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:What about PCM? - 06Western Digital, SanDisk, and the NAND Market - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:04] <exec> 08└─From my previous article: SanDisk is also partnering with Hewlett-Packard on Storage-Class Memory (SCM), a post-NAND competitor to Intel and Micron's 3D XPoint offering.
[23:09:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02Re:Parsimony of it - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:35] <exec> 08└─Randall has similar feelings about lobster: https://xkcd.com [xkcd.com]
[23:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Parsimony of it - 06Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:37] <exec> 08└─Randall is a fag bitch and none of the women he's kneading his dick over have any respect for him.
[23:10:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Religion seems like a bit of a stretch - 06Forest Fires: Scientists Find Surprising Way to See Religious Effects From Space - 656 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:10:34] <exec> 08└─I'd assume that in North America, more fires would start on the weekend, because that's when people aren't at work and head into the hills to go camping, fishing, hunting, etc. Friday they head out, saturday is the big party & fire day, and sunday they pack up and go home. When I go camping, we don'...
[23:11:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Loss in translation? - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:11:17] <exec> 08└─lying is considered moral
[23:11:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Update: All hostages rescued - 06Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:11:22] <exec> 08└─They're all over: In the last decade, Green Berets have deployed into 135 of the 195 recognized countries in the world. Successes in Afghanistan, Iraq, Trans-Sahel Africa, the Philippines, the Andean Ridge, the Caribbean, and Central America have resulted in an increasing demand for SF around the gl...
[23:11:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02I won't be installing this - 06Redphone and TextSecure are now Signal - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:11:41] <exec> 08└─Which TCP & UDP ports need to be available? You need to open TCP 31337 and all UDP ports in order for Signal to work. Signal uses a non-standard TCP port to catch filtering issues at the signaling step and a random UDP port. All UDP ports will need to be opened.
[23:12:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score:2) 02Re:Pacific Chinook salmon - 06FDA Approves a GMO Animal for Human Consumption for the First Time - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:12:10] <exec> 08└─Correct me it I am wrong, but I am guessing Pacific Chinook are more commonly found in helicopters than the north of Scotland. In my experience, even farmed salmon don't taste like the real thing.
[23:12:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:to or of? - 06FDA Approves a GMO Animal for Human Consumption for the First Time - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:12:14] <exec> 08└─Why was it necessary to write "for human consumption"? Has the FDA approved other genetically modified animals, but for use only in drugs and cosmetics, not food?
[23:12:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A bot can't agree to anything - 06Meet Lenny, the Bot that Tricks and Tortures Telemarketers - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:12:44] <exec> 08└─A variant is often (mis)attributed to Samuel Goldwyn [wikiquote.org].
[23:12:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A bot can't agree to anything - 06Meet Lenny, the Bot that Tricks and Tortures Telemarketers - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:12:45] <exec> 08└─And in fact, looking over the Wikiquote for Yogi Berra [wikiquote.org]... A remark once attributed to Sam Goldwyn will be attributed to Yogi Berra. (Jimmy Carron)
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