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[07:45:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02typical! - 06First Linux Ransomware Program Cracked, for Now - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:45:18] <exec> 08└─see, this is exactly why close source software is no good. if the ransomware were open source we could fix it so that it would securely hold our files hostage. ;)
[07:45:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03dbe [1422] (Score:2) 02Missing info - 06First Linux Ransomware Program Cracked, for Now - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:45:19] <exec> 08└─The flaw was to use a bad random seed for the AES key (date/hour) so no need to crack the RSA to decrypt the files when you can infer the key. Unfortunately changing the ransom-ware to read /dev/random shouldn't be too difficult... -dbe
[07:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Missing info - 06First Linux Ransomware Program Cracked, for Now - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:21] <exec> 08└─I wouldn't say that's unfortunate. Evolution tends to weed out people who run binaries of unknown pedigree as root.
[07:45:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Missing info - 06First Linux Ransomware Program Cracked, for Now - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:22] <exec> 08└─And there are still few theories as to how this thing got installed in the first place
[07:45:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Too hot for me... - 06New "Tricorder" Technology Might be Able to "Hear" Tumors Growing - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:45:30] <exec> 08└─The device heats you up with microwaves and listens for ultrasound signatures of tumors expanding...
[07:45:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score:2) 02Ultrasound elastography with more moving parts - 06New "Tricorder" Technology Might be Able to "Hear" Tumors Growing - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:45:32] <exec> 08└─Elastography isn't new, and it can be done with just the ultrasound transducer - no need to involve microwaves. Hard for me to see the appeal of this technique, as it seems more complicated than existing methods. It'll also be hard to pitch to patients - "we just need to cook you a little bit..."
[07:45:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02I'm from the Union, and I'm here to help - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:45:41] <exec> 08└─"In Los Angeles, the local protests are organized by Service Employees International Union" You betcha. Make sure you pay your union dues, slaves.
[07:45:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2, Disagree) 02Re:I'm from the Union, and I'm here to help - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 879 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:43] <exec> 08└─Someone told me that's a communist front. I haven't checked it out for myself. Hmmm - http://www.discoverthenetworks.org [discoverthenetworks.org] Whatever - skilled craftsmen in much of the country can't get fifteen bucks. Sorry, people, but if a journeyman carpente...
[07:45:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03ataradov [4776] (Score:1) 02Re:I'm from the Union, and I'm here to help - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:44] <exec> 08└─That's a cool machine and I'd rather deal with it than with McD employee. If they could also make an app for this, no machine will be needed.
[07:45:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm from the Union, and I'm here to help - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:46] <exec> 08└─Interesting. I'm an asocial person. I can take or leave the employee, but I generally put up with him/her because he's got to make a living somehow. Having a preference for the machine seems anti-social to me. That is, you want your wants and needs met, but to hell with the wants and needs of anyoen...
[07:45:47] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02Re:I'm from the Union, and I'm here to help - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 390 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:48] <exec> 08└─Agreed. The older I get the easier it is to put up with the kid taking my order, having trouble with the cash register, forgetting the ketchup. They are only newbies once, and a few kind words gets them past the moment. I got no beef with newbies. I was one many times over my life. They are there wo...
[07:45:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'm from the Union, and I'm here to help - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:50] <exec> 08└─What do you expect? "I got mine...fuck you!" is the mission statement of the Tea Party specifically and the Right in general.
[07:45:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'm from the Union, and I'm here to help - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:51] <exec> 08└─not that old myth. yes some mild inflation happens but that is a good thing for growth, especially since more money gets circulated downward
[07:45:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:I'm from the Union, and I'm here to help - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:53] <exec> 08└─WTF makes you think some kid bagging up hamburgers and fries should get that much?
[07:45:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:I'm from the Union, and I'm here to help - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 1285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:55] <exec> 08└─> Companies are going to look at decreasing labor costs by reducing the labor force. Until companies look at reducing labor costs by reducing the pay of upper management, I have zero sympathy for their wails that they will go bankrupt if minimum wage is raised, or that they are taxed too heavily. CE...
[07:45:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm from the Union, and I'm here to help - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:56] <exec> 08└─Someone told me that's a communist front. I haven't checked it out for myself. Hmmm -
[07:45:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:4, Touché) 02Re:I'm from the Union, and I'm here to help - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:58] <exec> 08└─Exactly. What a bunch of retarded sheep. I'm an enlightened rugged individualist so I wisely chose not to join the liberty-crushing union. Now excuse me, I have to go spend my Wal-Mart scrip at the company store before it expires!
[07:45:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03bziman [3577] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Hundreds, nationwide, eh? - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:46:00] <exec> 08└─There are so many fast food workers in the United States, that thousands or tens of thousands of them probably call in sick every day. If "hundreds" are striking, chances are no one is actually going to notice. They'd need a hundred thousand to strike to inconvenience anyone enough to notice. And if...
[07:46:01] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] 02Re:Hundreds, nationwide, eh? - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 964 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:02] <exec> 08└─You are of course 100% correct. Unfortunately the PR war on Unions was so successful it has become second nature for almost all americans to consider them evil and have mumbling about mafioso as a reflexive response. But this is not an issue restricted to fast food workers or even low wage workers....
[07:46:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:1, Troll) 02Re:Hundreds, nationwide, eh? - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:04] <exec> 08└─The neo-con dystopian dream has always been for a large supply of desperate, disposable workers willing to do anything just for the privilege of being employed for just enough to keep their bodily functions going while they are at work.
[07:46:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03buswolley [848] (Score:2) 02Re:Hundreds, nationwide, eh? - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:06] <exec> 08└─Sounds like what is happening now in foreign made products. And kind of happening here. Its not like the working poor want to start a class war that hadn't already been started by crony capitalists.
[07:46:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Hundreds, nationwide, eh? - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:08] <exec> 08└─Marx wasn't around anymore when neocons emerged... the behavior of these cut throat industrialists is indeed surreal and disgusting. But it's also true. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[07:46:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03buswolley [848] (Score:2) 02Re:Hundreds, nationwide, eh? - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:09] <exec> 08└─Captains of Industry and the Poor http://edsitement.neh.gov [neh.gov] This did not come to America with the rise of "neocons"
[07:46:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:Hundreds, nationwide, eh? - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:11] <exec> 08└─I would argue but it would serve zero purpose as it is obvious what you are. Reality makes my argument for me.
[07:46:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''neo-con" - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 486 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:13] <exec> 08└─A Neoconservative likes his country to spend a bunch on weapons and to have a giant military in order to project power. The term "Chickenhawk" often has significant overlap. "World policeman" is one of their favorite concepts. The term you are looking for is Neoliberal: Gov't regulation is bad; unre...
[07:46:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03compro01 [2515] (Score:2) 02Re:''neo-con" - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:15] <exec> 08└─The overlap between the politicians espousing neoconservative ideology and the ones espousing neoliberal ideology is so near complete in the USA, UK, and Canada that they're basically synonymous.
[07:46:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:''neo-con" - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 433 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:17] <exec> 08└─Nope: neoconservative adjective 1.relating to or denoting a return to a modified form of a traditional viewpoint, in particular a political ideology characterized by an emphasis on free-market capitalism and an interventionist foreign policy. In this case the tradition being returned to us one of ro...
[07:46:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hundreds, nationwide, eh? - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:18] <exec> 08└─> They'd need a hundred thousand to strike to inconvenience anyone enough to notice. And yet the strike was reported on all the major nightly news shows as well as all the 24-news channels and hundreds of newish websites. Looks like they might actually know more about how this stuff works than you d...
[07:46:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 937 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:46:20] <exec> 08└─They got kiosks for taking orders and machines for making burgers. Just throw 'em the damn bone. I've also got a few points I mention everytime this comes up: - I think they should get the raise, but raising the minimum wage shouldn't come at the expense of pushing the middle-class down and then cal...
[07:46:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:23] <exec> 08└─Fuck that. If an utterly unskilled teenager can do your job with little to no training, you should be paid like it.
[07:46:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 436 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:25] <exec> 08└─Pissing in the food slots? Just build the damned things so that it requires more than a 1 1/2 inch hose to reach. The kind of people who would do that won't have the necessary equipment. I seldom go to a fast food place anyway. Processed, predigested imitation food, for the most part. I'd much rathe...
[07:46:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03black6host [3827] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:26] <exec> 08└─What, you've never pissed up? Damn, I thought that was something everybody tried at some point in their life. Either young or drunk... It's like writing your name in the snow :)
[07:46:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:28] <exec> 08└─My mom shot a picture of me once, back arched backward, pissing a neat arch right over my head. I guess I was three or four. Gee, I wish I could still do that.
[07:46:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 1009 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:30] <exec> 08└─Hire three minimum-wage "security" guards (8 hour shifts, 24 hour coverage) and park them in a McDonald's uniform near the kiosks. They can browse the Internet on their phones for all it matters. Just being there will stop almost every casual vandal. Call the cops if someone starts tampering with fo...
[07:46:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:31] <exec> 08└─There are already robot security guards. No need to waste money on unreliable teenagers. Problem is, who's left to buy the food?
[07:46:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 679 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:34] <exec> 08└─This is exactly why we absolutely need a Basic Income pretty soon. Before long, most of the low-end jobs are going to be automated away. There's simply too many unskilled people for the amount of unskilled work available. The typical advice is for people to get an education, but our education system...
[07:46:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:35] <exec> 08└─I hear that Grishnakh isn't capable of anything higher-level, for example. Grishnakh needs a basic income now to avoid eating several fingers.
[07:46:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:37] <exec> 08└─There's simply too many unskilled people for the amount of unskilled work available.
[07:46:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 5 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:39] <exec> 08└─Iraq?
[07:46:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:41] <exec> 08└─Then stop telling them to go to college and send them somewhere they'll learn something useful.
[07:46:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:42] <exec> 08└─Get them hooked on mmorpgs. They'll waste their whole lives sitting in one spot, be unlikely to reproduce, and be happy the whole time.
[07:46:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:44] <exec> 08└─This is how we will all get lost in the matrix, imho.
[07:46:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:46] <exec> 08└─Speaking of which, Aion is free on Steam now. Graphics are pretty, character appearance is very customizable, and you get wings! I blew way too much of my weekend on it.
[07:46:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03buswolley [848] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:48] <exec> 08└─(1) There is office/legal/management work. (2) There is research/engineering work. (3) There is skilled labor (e.g., in manufacturing, construction) (4) There is "unskilled" labor. In America there are jobs for (1), (2), and (4). see the problem?
[07:46:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 483 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:49] <exec> 08└─Exactly. I say this from a pinko-commie-lefty standpoint, but the whole $15/hr thing is a bandaid for the real problem which is a complete lack of decent paying blue-collar work in America due to the fact that we exported it all. McDonalds should be a training-wheels job for high school or college k...
[07:46:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 729 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:51] <exec> 08└─I went to two years of tech school for machining and it worked out fairly well for me. I would not encourage my sons to follow in my footsteps however. It's gotten so that unless you're one of the best you're treated only a little better than a fast food worker. And yes, automation is making fast in...
[07:46:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 835 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:53] <exec> 08└─People who go to college/university so they can get a good job and make more money really shouldn't be there in the first place. It should be for people who are primarily interested in gaining a deep, academic understanding of the universe, not for people with petty, shallow ambitions. Encouraging a...
[07:46:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03buswolley [848] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:55] <exec> 08└─Having relied on public assistance when I started my family years ago, I can tell you that currently the incentives are not right to encourage working. Past a certain income, benefits go sharply down so that marginal gains for each hour worked are minuscule..one or two hundred more dollars a month f...
[07:46:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:-1, Troll) 02What I posted on fark about this an hour ago - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 726 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:46:56] <exec> 08└─I'd love to see ICE do a thorough roundup of illegals and run them all through a background check. Those that fail get sent home immediately, no court tests, nothing. Then do a roundup of the fast food asshats who think they're worth $15/hr because reasons. Now do a 1 for 1 trade, 1 illegal for 1 e...
[07:46:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What I posted on fark about this an hour ago - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:58] <exec> 08└─> Now do a 1 for 1 trade, 1 illegal for 1 entitled idiot. The illegals get to stay, the entitled idiots go to Mexico. Don't you ever get tired of yourself?
[07:46:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:What I posted on fark about this an hour ago - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:00] <exec> 08└─Not as long as I post under a name, not as an AC.
[07:47:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What I posted on fark about this an hour ago - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:02] <exec> 08└─> Not as long as I post under a name, not as an AC. As if "snotnose" isn't anonymous. But of course something totally irrelevant like posting from an account would be key to your self-respect. That's just how petty you really are.
[07:47:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:What I posted on fark about this an hour ago - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:04] <exec> 08└─As if "snotnose" isn't anonymous.
[07:47:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Since when is minimum wage liveable? - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 1512 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:47:05] <exec> 08└─Back when I worked for minimum wage, I lived with my parents - who bought my car and paid for the insurance, otherwise I wouldn't have been able to "afford the job." $3.35/hr (minus taxes) was enough to pay for my gas and give me a little spending money, the spending money never amounted to an auto-...
[07:47:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Old ladies working fast food? - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 909 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:07] <exec> 08└─I know lots of people making minimum wage who are raising children. It's not by any means a training wage. To say that it's not meant to be a living wage belies the application to which it is put. Back in the day you could make good money making clothing at a big factory in Rockland, Maine. That clo...
[07:47:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:Old ladies working fast food? - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 786 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:09] <exec> 08└─The title of this post means I have to recount this CSB. I was a teenage busboy in around '74 or so. One of my co-workers was a nice old lady in her 70's, can't remember her name although I can recall her face. One day one of my other co-workers brought in some special brownies. We enjoyed them. Wen...
[07:47:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Since when is minimum wage liveable? - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:11] <exec> 08└─Back when I worked for minimum wage, I lived with my parents - who bought my car and paid for the insurance, otherwise I wouldn't have been able to "afford the job." $3.35/hr (minus taxes)
[07:47:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:2) 02Wrong question - 06Carbon Nanotubes in a Race Against Time to Replace Silicon - 592 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:47:13] <exec> 08└─Maybe nanotubes get us to 1nm from 14. But that's the end of the road. Since these are 14 times smaller, this would give us at most about 4 more Moore's Law doublings. Maybe 16 in 2D. That's still only 24-32 years max. The real frontier must be the third dimension. Even with existing silicon tech, m...
[07:47:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Wrong question - 06Carbon Nanotubes in a Race Against Time to Replace Silicon - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:15] <exec> 08└─But that's the end of the road.
[07:47:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02MY meat marvel is between my legs. - 06Carbon Nanotubes in a Race Against Time to Replace Silicon - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:17] <exec> 08└─We can go in the third dimension when we get rid of the thermal problems. 2-D works well because you can cool the whole surface of the chip, in 3-D the heat has to conduct through the body of it. It's not carbon nanotubes that will take care of that problem but high-temperature superconductors.
[07:47:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wrong question - 06Carbon Nanotubes in a Race Against Time to Replace Silicon - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:18] <exec> 08└─The trouble with 3D circuits is heat dissipation, 2D chips can leak heat out the top, but if you build more circuit that way the heat has farther to go before it gets to the heat sink. That means you have to run the IC slower so it doesn't get as hot.
[07:47:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Wrong question - 06Carbon Nanotubes in a Race Against Time to Replace Silicon - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:20] <exec> 08└─What I'm wondering is when someone will find a way to cram multiple functional units per atom. Remember the atom (despite it's name) is not the fundamental building block. Perhaps electron shells can be accessed independently, or overlapping waveforms or somesuch. As history keeps showing, just 'cau...
[07:47:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02"Moore's Observation" not "Moore's Law" - 06Carbon Nanotubes in a Race Against Time to Replace Silicon - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:47:22] <exec> 08└─whatever will we do if we cannot comply with a general economic trend? Swing from the noose?
[07:47:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Moore's Observation" not "Moore's Law" - 06Carbon Nanotubes in a Race Against Time to Replace Silicon - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:23] <exec> 08└─that's right a gap of 5 years between silicon and the next big thing would give chip designers time to go back and fine tune the architecture it could allow new competition to arise against Intel using an all new design
[07:47:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Why is this? - 06Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:47:25] <exec> 08└─Smart TV - $500. Same size/quality monitor - $3000 How much is your privacy worth to you or to them? Stupid fucking home entertainment industry!
[07:47:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03novak [4683] (Score:2) 02Re:Why is this? - 06Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:27] <exec> 08└─So that tells you that they expect to steal and resell $2500 worth of personal data from you over the life of the device.
[07:47:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why is this? - 06Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:29] <exec> 08└─I've never used a smart television. Are they unusable without a connection to the Internet? Without connecting to the Internet, could one be substituted for a monitor without much inconvenience?
[07:47:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why is this? - 06Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:30] <exec> 08└─At least for me, the 5 smart TVs I have used work just fine with no internet. One of them complained incessantly that it it wasn't connected to the wifi; the rest didn't seem to care.
[07:47:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Funny) 02Ridiculousmuch? - 06Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:47:32] <exec> 08└─Smart TV's are spying on people, so you're glad you do your TV watching on a computer monitor. Yes that makes sense. Everyone knows TV's are smarter than computers.
[07:47:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Ridiculousmuch? - 06Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:34] <exec> 08└─The computer is configurable. Of course, my DD-WRT router is also configurable. I block the tracking sites at the router, and all devices using my gateway are protected from them. TV, smart phone, laptop, tablet, desktop, even the kitchen toaster.
[07:47:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Ridiculousmuch? - 06Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:35] <exec> 08└─Wait, they can embed tracking into mp4s now? Damn you, kat.cr!
[07:47:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ridiculousmuch? - 06Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - 503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:37] <exec> 08└─> Wait, they can embed tracking into mp4s now? Damn you, kat.cr! Ever use one of those apps to identify a song [google.com] just by letting it listen to a little bit of while its playing? That tech can be embedded in the audio path of TVs, receivers, etc. If anything in the output chain is online it...
[07:47:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Ridiculousmuch? - 06Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:39] <exec> 08└─Of course, my DD-WRT router is also configurable. I block the tracking sites at the router, and all devices using my gateway are protected from them.
[07:47:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Ridiculousmuch? - 06Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - 841 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:41] <exec> 08└─One source for tracking sites - http://pgl.yoyo.org [yoyo.org] I hate to invoke the hosts spammer, but the various hosts files available on the internet cover tracking sites pretty well. As I suggested, using the router to block all that crap is far more effective than trying to set each device...
[07:47:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Ridiculousmuch? - 06Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:42] <exec> 08└─Better yet: Don't give these scumbag companies your money at all; simply never buy their defective, abusive televisions.
[07:47:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Ridiculousmuch? - 06Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - 1079 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:44] <exec> 08└─Massive hosts files are extremely inefficient. It slows ALL DNS requests down. And not all that effective when the software is programmed (like Windows 10) to use hard coded IP addresses with several dozen backup addresses coded in. No DNS hits = useless hosts file. Also, as you well know: Hosts fil...
[07:47:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Max Hyre [3427] (Score:2) 02We were just given a smart TV - 06Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:47:46] <exec> 08└─I'll be damned if I ever let it get onto the Internet. Now I know why.
[07:47:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Don't hook it up to your router. - 06Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - 634 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:47:47] <exec> 08└─If you accidental get stuck with one of these TVs, and can't take it back to the store, just don't cable it up to your network, or give it your wifi password. You can still stream to it from Netflix or Hulu or what ever, via a Chromecast or a Firestick, or whatever Apple is selling now days. Of cour...
[07:47:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Don't hook it up to your router. - 06Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:50] <exec> 08└─> If you download from warez site or via bit-torrent you MIGHT not get tracked. A VPN is less than $40/yr. That's a good trade-off for all the pirated tv you can download with only a 0.0001% chance of being tracked, at least until the MAFIAA fully co-opts the NSA.
[07:47:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't hook it up to your router. - 06Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - 749 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:51] <exec> 08└─VPNs aren't that secret. Their only advantage is your other endpoint can be in a jurisdiction that has some protections, and is out of reach of big media. But using any VPN that terminates in the US seems risky to me, when people can serve warrants to obtain logs. VPNs are obviously able to track wh...
[07:47:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't hook it up to your router. - 06Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - 750 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:53] <exec> 08└─> All it takes is ONE law to be passed (like in Australia and the UK) requiring VPN providers to keep deep laws. Hasn't happened yet and as long as you aren't pirating pre-release $200M films, you don't have to worry about them coming after you with a warrant. > Its probably not precise enough to to...
[07:47:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't hook it up to your router. - 06Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:55] <exec> 08└─Hook it up on rare occasions so that you can check for software updates. Most are probably the code for things you don't want anyway, but one or two might just might be for code you do need.
[07:47:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Fractions of a penny - 06Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:47:57] <exec> 08└─It's hard to believe how much businesses (people) will fuck things up and ruin our shit for what? To increase the chance we'll click on their adverts? They're not even doing it for the children or for Freedom(TM) like the government is.
[07:47:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03meisterister [949] (Score:2) 02Used, non-"smart" TVs - 06Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:47:59] <exec> 08└─...are very, very, very, very cheap now. It's not like it's particularly difficult to get a TV without any of the spying BS. In some places, you can even get such televisions for free/borderline free. Just sayin'.
[07:48:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02So sick of smart TVs - 06Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:48:01] <exec> 08└─I just need a nice big flat screen with a decent selection of inputs. Can I please have that?
[07:48:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02No one has yet said the obvious? - 06Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - 338 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:48:02] <exec> 08└─I am trying to restrain myself. The meme is old. A new twist is hardly worth a post. It will make people groan! And Winston, hiding around the corner, scribbling in his journal with a fountain pen, would not approve. Maybe that is why---it has to be said! God forgive me: In Vizio America, the TV wat...
[07:48:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Funny) 02Millenials - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:48:04] <exec> 08└─"highly curated community of like-minded individuals"
[07:48:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:2, Funny) 02Re:Millenials - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:06] <exec> 08└─So this would be tumblr in real life.
[07:48:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Millenials - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:08] <exec> 08└─A version of Tumblr without the Internet's legendary ability to withstand a nuke? It's a step in the right direction.
[07:48:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02Re:Millenials - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:09] <exec> 08└─Intersex, lesbian, bi-, non-monogomous... Preferably also semi-nude or fully nude. Or are there several different versions of tumblr?
[07:48:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Millenials - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:11] <exec> 08└─I think he meant https://en.m.wikipedia.org(website) [wikipedia.org]
[07:48:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Millenials - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:13] <exec> 08└─They ask you for an email and a bit about yourself: http://www.commonspace.io [commonspace.io] Have fun people.
[07:48:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Millenials - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:15] <exec> 08└─I think it might also mean racism, until somebody calls them on it. Only if it's all-Whites though. If it's all Black, it's all good.
[07:48:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02common areas - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:48:16] <exec> 08└─Rent a group house.
[07:48:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02translation - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:48:18] <exec> 08└─"highly curated community of like-minded individuals" no old people
[07:48:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03arulatas [3600] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:translation - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:20] <exec> 08└─Now that brings up an interesting point. If retirement homes can exclude people based on their age. Would it be possible for this type of environment be able to do the same? Or is it that the elderly are a protected group so discrimination is not OK against them?
[07:48:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:translation - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:22] <exec> 08└─>"Or is it that the elderly are a protected group so discrimination is not OK against them?" That is correct. You can discriminate in favor of the elderly, but not against them.
[07:48:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:translation - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:23] <exec> 08└─Another great case where people just ought to simply be able to do what they want with what they own. My house that I'm renting out; my rules.
[07:48:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:translation - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 445 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:25] <exec> 08└─Which is illegal because the owner's rules frequently involved not renting to certain types of people. Also, people who rent don't necessarily have much choice about whom they rent from or even if they rent at all. You get to make some decisions, but even if there's a no pets policy, that doesn't me...
[07:48:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:translation - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:27] <exec> 08└─Lighten up Francis.
[07:48:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:translation - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:29] <exec> 08└─My point is the solution to the above problem is for it to not be illegal.
[07:48:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03snick [1408] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:translation - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:31] <exec> 08└─Yeah, well ... We've already seen where that road goes. It isn't pretty.
[07:48:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:translation - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:32] <exec> 08└─Ultimately, you can remove the listing from the market, but that means not renting to anybody.
[07:48:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:translation - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:34] <exec> 08└─Correct. I occasionally still take on a lodger. It's only for somebody in need that I can personally meet beforehand. (In this sense, it's a bit of reverse-discrimination according to local ordinance, but it's mostly under the table, and I only expect what they can pay me.)
[07:48:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:translation - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:36] <exec> 08└─Any sane person over 35 could not stand their music, their dependency on silly closed source apps and their TV shows, anyway.
[07:48:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Great Idea - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:48:38] <exec> 08└─I think this is a great idea, provided you don't end up with an asshole in your area. The real-world equivalent of and internet troll (I guess that would be a troll) would really take the fun out of this.
[07:48:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:Great Idea - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:40] <exec> 08└─Everyone is someone else's asshole.
[07:48:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03snick [1408] (Score:2) 02Re:Great Idea - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:41] <exec> 08└─If you can't spot the asshole in your first half hour in the dorm, then you ARE the asshole.
[07:48:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Great Idea - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:43] <exec> 08└─Does walking around naked at night count as "an asshole in your area"?
[07:48:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:Great Idea - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:45] <exec> 08└─At the least you'd sure see one.
[07:48:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Great Idea - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:47] <exec> 08└─I think this is a great idea, provided you don't end up with an asshole in your area. The real-world equivalent of and internet troll (I guess that would be a troll) would really take the fun out of this.
[07:48:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:Great Idea - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 1717 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:48] <exec> 08└─That's pretty much what it's like. I lived in a place almost exactly like the article describes, a big cinderblock building right across from CSUN with 3 stories and hundreds of rooms, although it wasn't officially part of the university and they allowed people of all ages to live there. It had a ho...
[07:48:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:4, Funny) 02Re:Great Idea - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:50] <exec> 08└─Without the asshole, who would everyone talk about and conspire behind?
[07:48:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Great Idea - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 853 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:52] <exec> 08└─They talk about this like it's a new thing, but it's essentially the way condominium life works. At 300 square feet that's 27 m2, roughly the size of the condominium studio flat that my wife and I still own. We are now renting the place out to someone because we couldn't stand a handful of asshole n...
[07:48:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02TV could be a problem - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:48:53] <exec> 08└─Not only the choice of channels (e.g reality TV, Sean Hannity on Fox News), but also the volume, for people with varying degrees of hearing impairment.
[07:48:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Holy crap - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:48:55] <exec> 08└─where prospective residents answer probing questions like "What are your passions?" and "Tell us your story (Excite us!)
[07:48:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Holy crap - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:57] <exec> 08└─Said the little asshole that flushed my toilet 10 times because his crap clogged it... "I can't be responsible for flooding your bathroom". His parents were that type of moron raisers.
[07:48:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Holy crap - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:59] <exec> 08└─Similar to some job interviews though. Culture fit is pretty important when you have to hear each other breathing all day.
[07:48:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Never in a million years. - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:49:01] <exec> 08└─I remember how nanny-state resident life was the one year I was stupid enough to go for a dorm room. This evokes a similar mentality of community where some head RA honcho is there lecturing you about your bad life choices. Dorm life is really only geared towards immature 18 year olds who need some...
[07:49:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:Never in a million years. - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 789 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:49:02] <exec> 08└─I don't agree. It really depends on the school you've chosen. I lived in the dorms at two different colleges. At one they had those sorts of presentations, but they were never mandatory. You went if the topic was interesting and you stayed away if it wasn't. Nobody called roll, so only people there...
[07:49:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Never in a million years. - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:49:04] <exec> 08└─the college didn't pay any attention to what happened in the dorms as long as nobody complained and you didn't set the building on fire.
[07:49:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Never in a million years. - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:49:06] <exec> 08└─Stay classy, Ethanol.
[07:49:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Never in a million years. - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:49:09] <exec> 08└─The other college I went to didn't have that at all. And for the most part, the college didn't pay any attention to what happened in the dorms as long as nobody complained and you didn't set the building on fire. That's exactly how my dorm experience was. Overall, I mostly liked my dorm experience....
[07:49:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Never in a million years. - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 738 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:49:10] <exec> 08└─I lived in a dorm in college and it was fine. This was the 80s and so things may have changed, but there were no meetings, no counseling, no anything. The RA was there to make sure the place didn't burn down as another poster said, and that was it. The only time I ever got in any sort of trouble was...
[07:49:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:Never in a million years. - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:49:12] <exec> 08└─I loved the dorms. Part of the fun was subverting that nanny-state. Alcohol free? Um, sure. Don't mind the guy running a liqueur store out of his room down the hall there. Or the party ..well... pretty much every night. Noise? What noise? Why on earth would be be running a sawzall at midnight in our...
[07:49:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2, Informative) 02highly-curated community of like-minded individual - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:49:14] <exec> 08└─-s: Jonestown Heaven's Gate Symbionese Liberation Army Scientology I know from cults because I was in Lifespring - Los Angeles LP-19.
[07:49:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03throwaway28 [5181] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Introverts not welcome. - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 645 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:49:16] <exec> 08└─Count me out. Problems I've had in the past, too much talking at night (lasted 6 hours)couldn't agree on nighttime lights (lasted 3 hours)schedule incomprehensibility makes them impossible to talk to even when living with them for a yearcouldn't agree on volume of perfume and burnt cookingnon-native...
[07:49:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Oregon Experiment - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 1387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:49:19] <exec> 08└─This is an old idea - and it is TERRIBLE. (Oregon Experiment [wikipedia.org]) I lived in one for a while, and viewed many others, as they were the cheapest thing on the market in that area. Horrible, horrible places. Imagine a shared apartment where you can't chose your roommates. You can't kick out...
[07:49:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03VitalMoss [3789] (Score:1) 02Re:Oregon Experiment - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:49:23] <exec> 08└─How many junkies do you know make 500 a month *minimum*?
[07:49:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:Oregon Experiment - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:49:26] <exec> 08└─Lots of functional junkies out there, just don't hear much about them.
[07:49:30] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] 02grown-ups don't live in dorms - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 1773 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:49:31] <exec> 08└─I think pretty much all I have to say here is that grown-ups don't live in dorms. If you're living in a dorm, you're not a grown-up. You may be able to legally buy booze, but you're not a grown-up. Once you grow up, you realize there really is no way to share living space with another grown-up unles...
[07:49:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02What's the root? - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:49:33] <exec> 08└─I wonder how much of this is really "lonely" millennials, and how much is the fact that student debt is really high, rents are really high, and good paying jobs few and far between.
[07:49:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02dorms and living hell.... - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 505 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:49:35] <exec> 08└─As an undergrad I lived in a dorm my 1st year, and used the high density of students to make a lot of beer by proxy... For my PhD I put up with a college house for exactly 6 months before the sheer noise of the location, the hike to the lab and the general incompetence of the other humans drove me t...
[07:49:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02silently invoking sudo? - 06Let's Encrypt Gets Automation - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:49:38] <exec> 08└─No such thing.
[07:49:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:silently invoking sudo? - 06Let's Encrypt Gets Automation - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:49:40] <exec> 08└─you hope there is "no such thing"
[07:49:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02"Let's Encrypt" Software Gets Automation - 06Let's Encrypt Gets Automation - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:49:41] <exec> 08└─Hey, this is a good technical story that I like. But the headline doesn't parse. You read it and ask how you encrypt gets. "Let's Encrypt" Software Gets Automation Testers Get "Let's Encrypt" Automated Scripts I like the second one, especially if you could work Python into it, because it tells you t...
[07:49:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:"Let's Encrypt" Software Gets Automation - 06Let's Encrypt Gets Automation - 441 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:49:43] <exec> 08└─Had you been paying attention to Lets Encrypt all along, this would be a non-story, because automation of the certificate process was the WHOLE focus of Let's Encrypt. The automation handles the application process, as well as the installation process, as well as the refresh process for certificates...
[07:49:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02sudo free version... - 06Let's Encrypt Gets Automation - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:49:44] <exec> 08└─https://github.com/diafygi/letsencrypt-nosudo [github.com]
[07:49:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:sudo free version... - 06Let's Encrypt Gets Automation - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:49:46] <exec> 08└─From your own link: There is only one command that needs to be run as root on your server and it is a very simple python https server (sic) that you can inspect for yourself before you run it.
[07:49:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02https everything - 06Let's Encrypt Gets Automation - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:49:48] <exec> 08└─I still have to connect to open wifi networks. https plz.
[07:49:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:https everything - 06Let's Encrypt Gets Automation - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:49:50] <exec> 08└─I still have to connect to open wifi networks. https plz.
[07:49:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03draconx [4649] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:https everything - 06Let's Encrypt Gets Automation - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:49:51] <exec> 08└─I still have to connect to open wifi networks. https plz.
[07:49:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Test your browser for compatibility - 06Let's Encrypt Gets Automation - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:49:53] <exec> 08└─As of the last article my Pale Moon install wasn't working with their new keys. Today it does. I'm glad to see them making progress on this, self-signing should not be a second-class ghetto for Internet security. Test your browser, [letsencrypt.org] see whether you're ready for the new CA to come on...
[07:49:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Silicon Valley? - 06Toyota Invests $1 Billion in AI and Robots, Will Open R&D Lab in Silicon Valley - 498 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:49:55] <exec> 08└─So that buy them what? 5 devs, a PM, and a 3 letter asshat for few years. I know I'm being facetious. But is there a particular reason they don't want to try a place that isn't so over saturated and expensive? If they offer same salary somewhere else int he country, wouldn't relocation not be a prob...
[07:49:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Silicon Valley? - 06Toyota Invests $1 Billion in AI and Robots, Will Open R&D Lab in Silicon Valley - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:49:57] <exec> 08└─Stanford and mit are good schools. They could probably get by just being near mit.
[07:49:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re: underfunded for Silicon Valley? - 06Toyota Invests $1 Billion in AI and Robots, Will Open R&D Lab in Silicon Valley - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:49:59] <exec> 08└─Big showey cash splash, is only ment to show they mean business while they poach staff, and put actwinkle in the eye of the real workforce elsewhere. Also - should have known ed209 would really be a toyota.
[07:49:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaganar [605] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Silicon Valley? - 06Toyota Invests $1 Billion in AI and Robots, Will Open R&D Lab in Silicon Valley - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:00] <exec> 08└─So that buy them what?
[07:50:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Silicon Valley? - 06Toyota Invests $1 Billion in AI and Robots, Will Open R&D Lab in Silicon Valley - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:02] <exec> 08└─The idea is that the best talent goes to where talent is most overpriced. The reality is that Silicon Valley is the source of more bubbles than an unwatched pot.
[07:50:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Silicon Valley? - 06Toyota Invests $1 Billion in AI and Robots, Will Open R&D Lab in Silicon Valley - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:04] <exec> 08└─that's mean to people who work there. don't be mean. maybe you are bitter at not getting a job interview.
[07:50:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02That's where "the money" is - 06Toyota Invests $1 Billion in AI and Robots, Will Open R&D Lab in Silicon Valley - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:05] <exec> 08└─They go there for the same reason thieves go to bank. All the major tech companies from around the world has some presence there.
[07:50:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:That's where "the money" is - 06Toyota Invests $1 Billion in AI and Robots, Will Open R&D Lab in Silicon Valley - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:07] <exec> 08└─Did they reject you? Is that why you call them thieves?
[07:50:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02i have emotion - 06Toyota Invests $1 Billion in AI and Robots, Will Open R&D Lab in Silicon Valley - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:50:09] <exec> 08└─I already have an ms and a bs in engineering, from schools that aren't mit or Stanford. I feel bad now. very bad. I think I am smart but now I don't.
[07:50:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Hey! - 06Toyota Invests $1 Billion in AI and Robots, Will Open R&D Lab in Silicon Valley - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:50:11] <exec> 08└─About that billion... where's MY part?
[07:50:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hey! - 06Toyota Invests $1 Billion in AI and Robots, Will Open R&D Lab in Silicon Valley - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:13] <exec> 08└─billion what? billion friends?
[07:50:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hey! - 06Toyota Invests $1 Billion in AI and Robots, Will Open R&D Lab in Silicon Valley - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:15] <exec> 08└─Your part? You get the privilege of buying one of their cars packed full of tech-shit that will spy on you and drive you into a wall - with no culpability on the part of Toyota. Don't like it? Go buy something else that doesn't have all that crap... oh, right, you can't! *opens nipple flaps, rubs ni...
[07:50:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Hey! - 06Toyota Invests $1 Billion in AI and Robots, Will Open R&D Lab in Silicon Valley - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:17] <exec> 08└─*opens nipple flaps, rubs nipples*
[07:50:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The first AI problem for automakers - 06Toyota Invests $1 Billion in AI and Robots, Will Open R&D Lab in Silicon Valley - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:50:19] <exec> 08└─How to create a car that can't be detected cheating at tests.
[07:50:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The first AI problem for automakers - 06Toyota Invests $1 Billion in AI and Robots, Will Open R&D Lab in Silicon Valley - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:21] <exec> 08└─...but VW was caught cheating when specifically _not_ "at tests".
[07:50:22] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Sorry guys - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 65 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:50:23] <exec> 08└─When I filled out the form, I didn't realize it was the last one.
[07:50:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Sorry guys - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:24] <exec> 08└─just hit PRTSCN, then whiteout your personal info. We'll then photocopy it for everyone else.
[07:50:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Here's my bid... - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:50:26] <exec> 08└─Hey government! I'm a decent-enough dev who could use a good job... I'll take on the project for a cool $500M... I'm quite sure I can recruit plenty of smart people from this very site to get the job done right. If interested, just respond to me here. My name is Anonymous Coward and, as you can clea...
[07:50:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Too late - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 409 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:28] <exec> 08└─Obama has his team of "bright boys" who "fixed" the Obamacare website working on it now. http://www.theatlantic.com [theatlantic.com] https://www.whitehouse.gov
[07:50:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:Here's my bid... - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:30] <exec> 08└─Hey government! I'm a so so developer who knows nothing about making web sites, but I'm really good at writing device drivers. In case you don't know, a device driver is what drives your website to a certain device. I'll take on the project for a cool $499.9M. I'm quite sure I can recruit plenty of...
[07:50:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:3, Interesting) 02This is exactly why... - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:50:32] <exec> 08└─Whenever someone says "the government should <blah>", I write them off instantly as a complete and utter moron and this is why. The government is good at two things: killing people and oppressing them. Everything else they're utter shit at.
[07:50:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:This is exactly why... - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:33] <exec> 08└─Actually the government is pretty bad at killing people. Look at cost per kill of the US government vs the drug cartels.
[07:50:34] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03tathra [3367] 02Re:This is exactly why... - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 305 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:35] <exec> 08└─except its not the government who's responsible for this, its IBM. all "the government" did is sell the contract to build this system to IBM, IBM is the one who is billions of dollars over budget and way behind schedule. basically you're agreeing with my post below yours, that privatization needs to...
[07:50:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is exactly why... - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:37] <exec> 08└─With no deliverable = no cash or at a minimum a refund of the cash spent. Then a new bid sent out with IBM as an obvious 'can not compete'.
[07:50:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:This is exactly why... - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:38] <exec> 08└─Read a decent article on the subject and you'll be informed that the reason IBM was unable to complete the contract on time is because the government had them in hurry up and wait mode most of the time and changed the requirements when they weren't.
[07:50:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:This is exactly why... - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:40] <exec> 08└─I'm sure that IBM instantly sued to protest this misallocation of funds.
[07:50:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:This is exactly why... - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:42] <exec> 08└─Well of course not. Nobody would. The government wants to jerk you around and pay you more money to do it? You're certainly not going to stop them.
[07:50:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:This is exactly why... - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:44] <exec> 08└─You and the Buzzard are both wrong. Clusterfucks of this magnitude can only be created when government and giant corporations work together.
[07:50:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:This is exactly why... - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:46] <exec> 08└─So how to do you think this situation (immigration request processing and tracking) should've been handled?
[07:50:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:This is exactly why... - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:47] <exec> 08└─He won't be able to answer that until Rush comes back from his break.
[07:50:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:4, Funny) 02Re:This is exactly why... - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:49] <exec> 08└─What have the Romans ever done for us?
[07:50:50] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03gman003 [4155] 02Re:This is exactly why... - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 1052 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:51] <exec> 08└─Whenever anyone says "whenever someone says ____ I write them off instantly as a complete and utter moron", I mentally flag them as an extremist who may be correct within the subject they've chosen to focus on but has no concept of the big picture, and whose evidence and conclusions cannot be accept...
[07:50:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:This is exactly why... - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:53] <exec> 08└─The government fucks up (see: the F-35)
[07:50:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Re:This is exactly why... - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:54] <exec> 08└─Fair enough. Although the government is partly to blame for setting the requirements the way they did, that really was more of a Lockheed Martin problem.
[07:50:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02the real failure here seems to be private industry - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:56] <exec> 08└─Read Britcher's "The Limits of Software People Projects and Perspectives" 1999 This government IS to blame.
[07:50:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:This is exactly why... - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:58] <exec> 08└─To reiterate what tathra said but change it a bit... there is no fuck up on either the government side or the industry side when it comes to the F-35. That's what the military industrial complex is all about: a revolving door between government and contractors allowing money to be funneled to your f...
[07:50:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Re:This is exactly why... - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 1956 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:00] <exec> 08└─I think that's a distinct, but related, issue. The "military-industrial complex" problem is about the positive feedback loop - the military needs new stuff, so industry expands, then the expanding industry needs to keep sales up so they push more product on the military, then the military needs to f...
[07:51:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:This is exactly why... - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:02] <exec> 08└─The government fucks up (see: the F-35, the Ebola epidemic response).
[07:51:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Re:This is exactly why... - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 610 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:03] <exec> 08└─I noticed that too, but I couldn't think of any recent government successes that nobody could argue against, the way the Moon landings or smallpox were. I'm not sure if that's because there haven't been any, or if we're just too close to realize how effective they were. I wanted to use two different...
[07:51:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:This is exactly why... - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 929 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:05] <exec> 08└─I wanted to use two different states' ACA market sites as examples but couldn't be assed to look up which ones were which. That's invalid because those are state, not federal. There's plenty of things that state governments are doing decently well even today, such as several states finally stopping...
[07:51:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:This is exactly why... - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 1046 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:07] <exec> 08└─The government fucks up (see: the F-35, the Ebola epidemic response). The government does not always fuck up (see: the Apollo program, eradicating smallpox). Private industry fucks up (see: the Surface RT, OS/2). Private industry does not always fuck up (see: Tesla, the iPhone). There are trends her...
[07:51:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:This is exactly why... - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:09] <exec> 08└─Whenever someone says "the government should ", I write them off instantly as a complete and utter moron and this is why. Exactly! We really should have given this contract to a reputable private firm like IBM. The government can't build anything right!
[07:51:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03unzombied [4572] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:This is exactly why... - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 919 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:10] <exec> 08└─Exactly! Just look at medicine. US Social Security administrative costs are around 5%. Private enterprise insurance profits are around 35%. Pharmaceutical manufacturers, profits are 42% [bbc.com] or 5000% [wikipedia.org] depending on how you count or whom you believe. Oh, uh not the best example. Ho...
[07:51:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02IBM is to blame, along w/ privatization in general - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 826 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:51:12] <exec> 08└─IBM is who won the contract to implement this, and like all private contractors who won government contracts, they're milking it for all its worth, always behind schedule and over budget. "the government" isn't really to blame here, except for being privatized in the first place, its the contractor...
[07:51:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:IBM is to blame, along w/ privatization in gene - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 369 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:14] <exec> 08└─The government is to blame for making a contract that allows this. Government contracts should be of the form "We pay the agreed amount, you deliver the agreed stuff, if you miscalculated and it gets more expensive, it is your problem." Deviations from this scheme may be justified for development of...
[07:51:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:IBM is to blame, along w/ privatization in gene - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:16] <exec> 08└─How far removed are you from people who actually draft, write and read contracts? Do you even *know* people who do this for a living?
[07:51:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:IBM is to blame, along w/ privatization in gene - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:17] <exec> 08└─No business would ever agree to that and nothing would ever get done.
[07:51:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:IBM is to blame, along w/ privatization in gene - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:19] <exec> 08└─Those are the kind of contracts I have with my customers, with the caveat that they must meet their milestones/deadlines as well or the price increases.
[07:51:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:IBM is to blame, along w/ privatization in gene - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:21] <exec> 08└─they're milking it for all its worth, always behind schedule and over budget This is the responsibility of IBM, and all private companies -- to make as much money as possible via moral and immoral, legal and illegal, actions. But invisible hand yeay!
[07:51:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02say "NO!" to privatization. - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:23] <exec> 08└─http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/07/the-secret-startup-saved-healthcare-gov-the-worst-website-in-america/397784/ [theatlantic.com] [theatlantic.com] https://www.whitehouse.gov [whitehouse.gov] [whitehouse.gov] https://18f.gsa.gov [gsa.gov] [gs...
[07:51:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:2) 02Re:say "NO!" to privatization. - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:24] <exec> 08└─The Atlantic piece is a very interesting read. It's amazing how their approach mirrors a lot of the design decisions I along with my team have implemented recently. Of course there is a lot of people here who will come out from under their bridges and yell about Javascript.
[07:51:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:IBM is to blame, along w/ privatization in gene - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:26] <exec> 08└─Tell it to the mighty buzzard, who blames the government for having the problem, despite it being created by a private enterprise. Probably it is due to inept people at high and low places both at IBM and in the government. Whoever kept signing off on this stuff should refund me my taxes paid to mak...
[07:51:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:IBM is to blame, along w/ privatization in gene - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:28] <exec> 08└─Tell it to the mighty buzzard, who blames the government for having the problem, despite it being created by a private enterprise.
[07:51:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:IBM is to blame, along w/ privatization in gene - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 465 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:30] <exec> 08└─To be fair. "the government" let it drag on for about 8 years more than they should have. After 3 they should have pulled the plug. A system like that you should with a semi competent team be able to crank out something pretty nice in 3 years. 1 form that works is pathetic and no money should have b...
[07:51:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:IBM is to blame, along w/ privatization in gene - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 668 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:31] <exec> 08└─These projects are usually a group effort that require coordination and compromise. The "requirements" are usually just guidelines because the devil's in the detail, and the details are not known at contract time. The system probably has to interface with bunches of existing arcane systems with arca...
[07:51:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Chromium_One [4574] (Score:1) 02This is working as intended. - 06Government Spends $1 Billion to Put One Immigration Form Online - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:51:33] <exec> 08└─Standardized milking of the process aside, there are a LOT of people with a vested interest (even if it's purely ideological) in making sure the entire immigration process remains a tough slog.
[07:51:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2, Informative) 02That's actually promising - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:51:35] <exec> 08└─Anyone defending hypothetical "innovators" in this way is usually pushing excessive IP protections. Especially if they're also lobbying for an "Innovation sector." Unless there's specifically some asymmetric policy here. The complete lack of specifics in his argument only lend credence to that suspi...
[07:51:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:That's actually promising - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:37] <exec> 08└─Worst yet this will probably kill innovation by making it impossible for startups to get off the ground before some obscure patent kills them. Claiming it's for "innovation" just flies in the face of sanity.
[07:51:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:That's actually promising - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:39] <exec> 08└─"this" is pretty ambiguous in that sentence. Can you clarify?
[07:51:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tramii [920] (Score:2) 02Re:That's actually promising - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:40] <exec> 08└─Pretty sure "this" = the Trans-Pacific Partnership
[07:51:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:2) 02Re:That's actually promising - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 1024 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:42] <exec> 08└─You are right. I misread your comment and responded with one that is very ambiguous even thou you didn't share my sentiment :) I agree with Jim Balsillie in that TPP will be a major blow to innovation overall. And I meant to say that often things like TPP, strong treaties for intellectual property t...
[07:51:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:2, Touché) 02Re:That's actually promising - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 379 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:44] <exec> 08└─However when I read the article I noted that Balsillie is not concerned about the little guy, but rather himself and others like him losing out to US companies. It does read like an incoherent tirade with no specifics. Which is amusing because I guess the only thing corporations really fear is not l...
[07:51:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:That's actually promising - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:46] <exec> 08└─It does read like an incoherent tirade with no specifics.
[07:51:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:That's actually promising - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:47] <exec> 08└─No, the people who support aren't actual innovators, they are monopolists who want to restrict the flow of innovation for the purpose of attaining maximum profits.
[07:51:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02end of the world as we know it (not feeling fine) - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:51:49] <exec> 08└─As far as I can tell, TPP is the opening ritual of 3rd impact [evageeks.org].
[07:51:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondoctor [2963] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Excuse me? - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:51:51] <exec> 08└─People all over were making a lot of noise about how bad the TPP was going to be. He could have listened and done something about it. Instead he stuck his fingers in his ears and *endorsed* it.
[07:51:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03srobert [4803] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Excuse me? - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:53] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but most of that noise are just working class and middle class people whining about their jobs getting outsourced. Nobody important saw any reason to oppose it before.
[07:51:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Excuse me? - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:54] <exec> 08└─But he's not opposed to it because he's against IP protections, patents, etc. Don't be fooled for a second that this guy wouldn't support the TPP were it not for some alleged asymmetry in the agreement.
[07:51:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Asymmetry is the whole reason for TPP - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:56] <exec> 08└─It is the ruling elite of the more powerful country forcing their rules down the others' throats. Because they can. Whatever concessions they did make in return, are not from their own pocket. Whatever collateral damage that does do to their subjects, the rulers do not care in the slightest.
[07:51:57] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:Excuse me? - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 1038 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:58] <exec> 08└─All of the leaders of these countries are running into the same basic problem: The majority of people in their countries don't want it, but since the countries are ostensibly democracies they feel a need to appear to oppose it while actually supporting it. An example of the flip-flopping going on: H...
[07:51:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:Excuse me? - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 445 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:52:00] <exec> 08└─Of course there's minimum covarage about it in states. The whole idea was to give corporations of USA an upperhand with unfair business practises. It makes it better for the USA corporations. Everyone else suffers. So the idea is to be quiet about that as much as possible. Since the american public...
[07:52:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Excuse me? - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 767 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:52:01] <exec> 08└─If the administration wanted it, when Clinton was Secretary of State, it was her job to work towards the administration's goals. You talk as if she had the freedom to act independently of the administration she worked for. She, or anyone else in the administration for that matter, can advise, cajole...
[07:52:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Excuse me? - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:52:03] <exec> 08└─An example of the flip-flopping going on: Hillary Clinton...
[07:52:04] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02"outfoxed" my backside - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 310 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:52:05] <exec> 08└─"Outfoxed" implies we were surprised, taken advantage of. There was enough noise made about the obvious problems, from conspiring in secret to inviting in corporate interests and freezing out public interests that what happened was anything but a surprise. We weren't "outfoxed", we were "sold down t...
[07:52:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"outfoxed" my backside - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:52:06] <exec> 08└─We were outfuxed!
[07:52:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:"outfoxed" my backside - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:52:08] <exec> 08└─Malcolm X said it best: "Oh, I say and I say it again, ya been had! Ya been took! Ya been hoodwinked! Bamboozled! Led astray! Run amok!" And yes, it was basically national governments lining up to sell out themselves and their citizens to the megacorps. With wide support from across the political pa...
[07:52:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"outfoxed" my backside - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:52:10] <exec> 08└─Look at yourselves. Go on, look at you. People of Sherwood Forest, you've been had. Hoodwinked! Bamboozled! Run amuck. We didn't land on Sherwood Forest, Sherwood Forest landed on us!
[07:52:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02rise up - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:52:12] <exec> 08└─This treaty will enslave us to international corporate actors, and destroy the U.S. Constitution. And I'm just a moderate. saying this.
[07:52:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02Re:rise up - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:52:14] <exec> 08└─When does this come up for a vote?
[07:52:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:rise up - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:52:15] <exec> 08└─It doesn't. Welcome to modern democracy.
[07:52:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02How long till Congress votes on TPP? - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:52:17] <exec> 08└─I've seen|heard several things that say they won't get serious about this until Spring 2016. We should also note here that this is actually a treaty. The Constitution says that THE HOUSE of Representatives HAS NO ROLE in ratifying treaties. The Constitution says that a 2/3 majority of the Senate is...
[07:52:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:rise up - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 559 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:52:19] <exec> 08└─> destroy the U.S. Constitution ...and every other Constitution who says the people is sovereign. Because being sovereign implies being able to change your mind, and the TPP, according to the summary, doesn't permit it. Now, if you think constitutions were a stopgap measure till the last remains of...
[07:52:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:rise up - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:52:20] <exec> 08└─the constitution has already been destroyed. if the constitution were still valid then the TPP would be no threat to it since SCOTUS ruled that the constitution supersedes international treaties in Reid v Covert. [wikipedia.org]
[07:52:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:4, Insightful) 02don't ratify it! - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 443 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:52:22] <exec> 08└─As long as a treaty hasn't been ratified (by the parliament), it is not applicable. If, at this stage, you don't want it, then make sure the parliament doesn't ratify it. Once it's ratified, well, international treaties count even higher than the constitution, and good luck getting out of it then. O...
[07:52:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02Re:don't ratify it! - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:52:24] <exec> 08└─This should not be voted on until the next president is in office. The people need to decide.
[07:52:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:don't ratify it! - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:52:26] <exec> 08└─The people need to decide.
[07:52:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:don't ratify it! - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 1899 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:52:28] <exec> 08└─The only serious candidates iirc that oppose it are Sanders and Trump. Trump is, well, Trump. Crazy. Unelectable. That being said, if Sanders isn't in the running either as a D or I, I don't hear word of a massive write-in campaign, and Trump has the R nomination, why the fsck not. He'll have my vot...
[07:52:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02''The only serious candidates...'' - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 1004 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:52:29] <exec> 08└─Jill Stein (a physician), when she debated Mitt Romney during the Massachusetts gubernatorial race, was called "the only adult in the room" by the Boston Globe. So, how "serious" do you want? Her previous stances against SOPA and PIPA [googleusercontent.com] (orig) [alternet.org] give an indication...
[07:52:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:don't ratify it! - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:52:31] <exec> 08└─Canada just had an election, last month, and got a new prime minister out of it.
[07:52:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:don't ratify it! - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:52:33] <exec> 08└─Seems a treaty should need a referendum then.
[07:52:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03drussell [2678] (Score:2) 02Re:don't ratify it! - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:52:35] <exec> 08└─You would also think that a treaty like this shouldn't be "negotiated" in complete secrecy but.....
[07:52:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03hash14 [1102] (Score:2) 02Re:don't ratify it! - 06"We've Been Outfoxed": Jim Balsillie Fears TPP Will Become Worst-Ever Policy Move - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:52:36] <exec> 08└─It has already been ratified (in the US), via the Trade Promotion Authority bill. There, it now has to be de-ratified. The agreement was essentially approved before it was written. And you can bet your ass that it being approved prior to finalization is what allowed the criminals writing it to put e...
[07:52:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Funny) 02I love technical jargon - 06New Understanding of the 'Dewetting' Process - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:52:38] <exec> 08└─"Dewetting", or as everybody else calls it, "drying".
[07:52:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I love technical jargon - 06New Understanding of the 'Dewetting' Process - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:52:40] <exec> 08└─The term "drying" as it is commonly used could also include evaporation, sublimation, or adsorption/absorption (I dried myself with a towel.).
[07:52:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Re:I love technical jargon - 06New Understanding of the 'Dewetting' Process - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:52:42] <exec> 08└─"Dewetting", or as Ethanol calls it, "changing my nappy".
[07:52:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gault.Drakkor [1079] (Score:1) 02Re:I love technical jargon - 06New Understanding of the 'Dewetting' Process - 968 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:52:43] <exec> 08└─Wetting/dewetting is more obvious in something like soldering. Take the process known as tinning, pre-applying solder to your work pieces before soldering together. If you tried to tin with fluxless solder you can stuff copper wire into a bead of molten solder and not too much happens, pull out the...
[07:52:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02decreases the stability of thin films - 06New Understanding of the 'Dewetting' Process - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:52:45] <exec> 08└─On one hand, dewetting decreases the stability of thin films, such as the ones found in smartphone displays.
[07:52:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Meaning of "dewetting" - 06New Understanding of the 'Dewetting' Process - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:52:47] <exec> 08└─i thought "dewetting" describe the scenario where you get a woman aroused and then start talking about Star Trek, or a SoylentNews post. Glad to know I am wrong.
[07:52:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Great! - 06New Understanding of the 'Dewetting' Process - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:52:49] <exec> 08└─Then I can get some pants lined with this stuff, enjoy Omorashi and wet myself day and night! :^3
[07:52:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:3, Informative) 02just one molecule? - 06Computer Chip That Senses Smell Could Save Money, Reduce Waste - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:52:50] <exec> 08└─I read the NSF abstract, they only claim ethylene. In marketing blurb claims "amines" too, and other "important gases". Maybe they are being secretive due to startup funding, but this is an almost content free article. Not having a go at the submitter (Phonenix666?) , but this is a very poor technic...
[07:52:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:just one molecule? - 06Computer Chip That Senses Smell Could Save Money, Reduce Waste - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:52:52] <exec> 08└─Some news days are better than others :)
[07:52:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Interesting technology - 06Computer Chip That Senses Smell Could Save Money, Reduce Waste - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:52:54] <exec> 08└─Such a chip could detect when I start blasting stinky farts into the room and blow them away from me, thereby eliminating any evidence of my guilt. I like it.
[07:52:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Interesting technology - 06Computer Chip That Senses Smell Could Save Money, Reduce Waste - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:52:55] <exec> 08└─Or it could blame you, and offer a full 36-page report with evidence in real time characterizing your offending farts.
[07:52:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Can it smell drugs/bombs? - 06Computer Chip That Senses Smell Could Save Money, Reduce Waste - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:52:57] <exec> 08└─Put passengers in an air neutral booth and "smell" them for contraband. Safer than full body scans.
[07:52:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Can it smell drugs/bombs? - 06Computer Chip That Senses Smell Could Save Money, Reduce Waste - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:52:59] <exec> 08└─A much more interesting question is can it smell BS? If yes then it could be integrated into adblocking solutions.
[07:53:00] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] 02Re:What we are forgetting. - 06Germany to Get 33% of its Electricity From Renewables This Year - 352 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:01] <exec> 08└─Wow, that's not just anecdotal evidence, it's an anecdote based on hearsay. You have proven that you can google up the number of wind turbines in the country easily enough, but somehow you were unable to plug the words "wind turbine disposal" into your preferred search engine. Here [bbc.co.uk], I've...
[07:53:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:What we are forgetting. - 06Germany to Get 33% of its Electricity From Renewables This Year - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:02] <exec> 08└─But hey, at least we will get some playgrounds out of the deal with a fresh smell of burning resin as a bonus.
[07:53:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:What we are forgetting. - 06Germany to Get 33% of its Electricity From Renewables This Year - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:04] <exec> 08└─OK, fair enough, yet your link still fails to convince, at least me, that there isn't going to be a big pile of crap somewhere. What seems the more reasonable proposition for turbine disposal: Get paid thousands of dollars for all that valuable scrap metal. Or, pay thousands of dollars to bur...
[07:53:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:What we are forgetting. - 06Germany to Get 33% of its Electricity From Renewables This Year - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:06] <exec> 08└─According to Wikipedia over 20,000 wind turbines are in the country. "That is going to be one frickin huge pit!", says I.
[07:53:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What we are forgetting. - 06Germany to Get 33% of its Electricity From Renewables This Year - 433 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:08] <exec> 08└─Not exactly understanding what is trollish about this comment. Only meant to talk about the aspects of what renewables create as a by-product cost. That is simply healthy debate and critical thinking. No attack, no subterfuge. Also, it created some good responses. But hey, maybe that is why the comm...
[07:53:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What we are forgetting. - 06Germany to Get 33% of its Electricity From Renewables This Year - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:10] <exec> 08└─I think he was being a bit hyperbolic about it hence the troll. But the questions are at least sound. At EOL of these devices what is the end game? More than likely those blades are fiberglass with a resin coating. My small googling around found the only recycling use is to make cement out of it.
[07:53:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:2) 02Re:What we are forgetting. - 06Germany to Get 33% of its Electricity From Renewables This Year - 410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:12] <exec> 08└─I would think they might replace blades and motor (not sure if that's what it's called) plus some electronics without removing the tower part, as it would be the most economical option I wager. Even if there are significant advances and the standard set up of wind turbine is not optimal, havign alre...
[07:53:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03soylentsandor [309] (Score:2) 02Re:What we are forgetting. - 06Germany to Get 33% of its Electricity From Renewables This Year - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:13] <exec> 08└─I would think they might replace blades and motor (not sure if that's what it's called) plus some electronics without removing the tower part, as it would be the most economical option I wager.
[07:53:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:What we are forgetting. - 06Germany to Get 33% of its Electricity From Renewables This Year - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:15] <exec> 08└─Not exactly understanding what is trollish about this comment. It's pure FUD, that's what. Really, really, poorly researched FUD at that.
[07:53:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:What we are forgetting. - 06Germany to Get 33% of its Electricity From Renewables This Year - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:17] <exec> 08└─I'd sooner live next to a place where old wind turbines are buried than a place where coal ash or carbon dioxide are impounded. Ash can pollute the water table, and the CO2 could suffocate me, if it escaped. Yes, those are sometimes recycled [epa.gov] but often they're not.
[07:53:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondrake [2658] (Score:2) 02Re:What we are forgetting. - 06Germany to Get 33% of its Electricity From Renewables This Year - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:18] <exec> 08└─You are probably trolling, but I happened to witness the replacement of a large amount of wind turbines someplace in Germany. I think the old ones were not even 20 years old (maybe 15). The old ones were actually shipped to Poland for reuse. I guess even if they would not be useful anymore as wind t...
[07:53:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What we are forgetting. - 06Germany to Get 33% of its Electricity From Renewables This Year - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:20] <exec> 08└─I wonder where old cars get recycled?
[07:53:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03angelosphere [5088] (Score:1) 02Re:What we are forgetting. - 06Germany to Get 33% of its Electricity From Renewables This Year - 612 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:22] <exec> 08└─The oldest wind turbines I know about where built around 1987 .... they are still standing quite fine. As most of the turbine is very valuable material, like uh ohm: steel! No one is going to put that into a pit. Especially not in gemany ... did that guys you think you talked to, hit you over the he...
[07:53:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Still expensive - 06Germany to Get 33% of its Electricity From Renewables This Year - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:53:24] <exec> 08└─Germany's residential electricity prices [zerohedge.com] are still double that of many of their neighbors while wholesale prices have dropped [bloomberg.com] to 30 Euro per MWH. I wonder how the post-scarcity people feel about this artificial creation of scarcity?
[07:53:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:Still expensive - 06Germany to Get 33% of its Electricity From Renewables This Year - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:25] <exec> 08└─I wonder how the post-scarcity people feel about this artificial creation of scarcity?
[07:53:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Still expensive - 06Germany to Get 33% of its Electricity From Renewables This Year - 761 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:27] <exec> 08└─Actually in this case it's not capitalism. Quite the opposite: The German government managed to make a system where the end user prices go up when the prices of renewable energy go down. How it works? Well, the basic idea is that they give the producers of renewable energy a guaranteed price. The di...
[07:53:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03angelosphere [5088] (Score:1) 02Re:Still expensive - 06Germany to Get 33% of its Electricity From Renewables This Year - 815 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:29] <exec> 08└─That is wrong. I suggest to read the EEG (Erneuerbare Energien Gesetz) and watch the market more closely. Energy prices are dropping for everyone. The industry is not exempt from paying the true price. The system works quite different than you imagine: grid operators are paying the feed in tariffs f...
[07:53:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Still expensive - 06Germany to Get 33% of its Electricity From Renewables This Year - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:30] <exec> 08└─I suggest to read the EEG (Erneuerbare Energien Gesetz) and watch the market more closely.
[07:53:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Still expensive - 06Germany to Get 33% of its Electricity From Renewables This Year - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:32] <exec> 08└─capitalism strikes again!
[07:53:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"plug me in scotty" - 06Germany to Get 33% of its Electricity From Renewables This Year - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:53:34] <exec> 08└─*sigh* 1'000'000'000 = english billion ( german milliard) 1'000 kWh = 1 MWh 1'000'000 kWh = 1 GWh 1'000'000'000 kWh = 1'000 GWh 1'000 GWh = 1 Terra *weeh* Wh 687'000'000'000 kWh =687 TWh (wrong?) thats a hell of plug thats ..ehem ... plugged into the sun ^_^
[07:53:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"plug me in scotty" - 06Germany to Get 33% of its Electricity From Renewables This Year - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:36] <exec> 08└─There is no english billion in any practical use. Let it die so we can stop confusing everyone.
[07:53:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] 02Privacy - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 227 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:53:37] <exec> 08└─This is great! It makes it all the easier for businesses and the government to track you. But if you like privacy, then it's not so great. Let's hope that cash doesn't disappear completely, thereby removing the choice entirely.
[07:53:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03G-forze [1276] 02Re:Privacy - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 447 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:39] <exec> 08└─I like technological advancements and the convenience they may bring as much as any nerd, but this is a scary development. Already today, there are people not eligible for a bank account for some reason or another. What happens when there is no cash to use? The possibilities of creating a whole new...
[07:53:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03canopic jug [3949] 02Nickel and dime - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 1689 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:41] <exec> 08└─In addition to privacy questions there is also the opportunity for abuse by the banks. If it is like it was in Norway, then the banks will use it to tack on all kinds of service charges even though they are saving money. I don't know the situation now, but a while back the banks in Norway gave the d...
[07:53:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Nickel and dime - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:42] <exec> 08└─focus on speculation^Winvestment. You mis-spelt gambling.
[07:53:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Nickel and dime - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:44] <exec> 08└─You just have to say it the right way to make it accepted. "What did you do with the money?" "I played every lottery I could find." "How could you waste that money in such a stupid way!" "What did you do with the money?" "I made a series of small high-risk investments, thus spreading the risk, with...
[07:53:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Nickel and dime - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:46] <exec> 08└─Of course both ways are dumb. The smart way to gamble is to use someone else's money, and take some of the profits, and say "sorry, give me more money and I'll do better next time" if you lose. For bonus points claim to have a "system". Plenty of people have a system at vegas. Some people actually w...
[07:53:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nickel and dime - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:48] <exec> 08└─For bonus points claim to have a "system". Plenty of people have a system at vegas. Some people actually win in vegas, so if you build it as an industry you can point to the winners and say "see".
[07:53:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:Nickel and dime - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:49] <exec> 08└─In addition to privacy questions there is also the opportunity for abuse by the banks.
[07:53:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:Privacy - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:51] <exec> 08└─Already today, there are people not eligible for a bank account for some reason or another.
[07:53:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03tempest [3050] (Score:2) 02Re:Privacy - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:53] <exec> 08└─If you have a bad enough credit and end up with a fair amount of bounced checks, banks will no longer give you an account. People in this situation typically end up using rip-off check cashing services to cash their paycheck, which makes it even harder to dig themselves out of the hole they've gotte...
[07:53:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Privacy - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:54] <exec> 08└─Actions having consequences... Damn the bad luck!
[07:53:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Privacy - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 515 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:56] <exec> 08└─Yeah, its totally my fault that I had a positive balance in my bank account, only to be hit by some bullshit fee out of nowhere which took me into the negative, followed by multiple "Insufficient Funds Fees" of $35 each for not having enough to cover that fee that never existed before and I was neve...
[07:53:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:Privacy - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:58] <exec> 08└─Already today, there are people not eligible for a bank account for some reason or another.
[07:53:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonymousCowardNoMore [5416] (Score:2) 02Re:Privacy - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 693 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:00] <exec> 08└─There have rare cases in my country (and I'm sure yours as well) of people being combined in government databases. Usually two people with the same name born on the same day, who then get assigned a single government ID number. When this was discovered, the banks simply froze their accounts for usin...
[07:54:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''I live on a rural road that has no name'' - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:02] <exec> 08└─My high school was in the middle of farming country. A bunch of my classmates lived on such roads and every one of them had a mailing address (e.g. Rural Route 7, Box 62). Do you have to go into town or some such to check your mail? -- gewg_
[07:54:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:Privacy - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 472 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:03] <exec> 08└─In addition to Nuke, I also know somebody who is unable to open an account at a major bank or even at my credit union because she got listed on ChexSystems after accidentally overdrawing an account by like $10. By the time she was able to settle the account, it had ballooned into a matter of $300. H...
[07:54:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Privacy - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:05] <exec> 08└─Before I got a credit card, I was denied Credit Union membership for the opposite reason: no debt for the 3 previous years. It is like they assume you declared bankruptcy or something (rather than actually properly manage your money).
[07:54:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:Privacy - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:07] <exec> 08└─I was denied Credit Union membership for the opposite reason: no debt for the 3 previous years.
[07:54:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Privacy - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:08] <exec> 08└─They'd love me then. I haven't had a bank account, loan, or a card of any kind other than anonymous prepaid in almost twenty years. Cash is king. Cards are for online purchases only and even then should never be traceable back to you.
[07:54:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Privacy - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:10] <exec> 08└─You'd be lucky to even get a job. These days they outright fire people for not having a good credit score, and use credit scores as part of the hiring process. Having no credit record would fall under that. What I don't understand about these policies is, how are you supposed to pay off your debts o...
[07:54:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Privacy - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 633 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:12] <exec> 08└─Obviously there are places in the world, as rare as it might be, where the government actually does its best working for the people of the country. Where the interests of big corporations are kept in check, and the government knows its mandate is to make the life and welfare of its citizens priority...
[07:54:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Privacy - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:14] <exec> 08└─Yet drugs are illegal in sweden as well.
[07:54:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Privacy - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:15] <exec> 08└─Obviously there are places in the world, as rare as it might be, where the government actually does its best working for the people of the country.
[07:54:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Privacy - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:17] <exec> 08└─Those of us who live in the other side of that coin - with a shitty, oppressive, and dick-swinging government - just cannot comprehend such reality.
[07:54:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Negative interest rates are easily avoided - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 1105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:19] <exec> 08└─sarcasm there huh? If I could ban cash altogether, and force everyone to: a. declare own properties. Who declared to own this yacht? nobody? Cool it's public property now. b. consolidate all properties into max 3 level deep holdings so for each item you can say who owns it and in what percentage wit...
[07:54:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Negative interest rates are easily avoided - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:21] <exec> 08└─If I could ban cash altogether, and force everyone to:
[07:54:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:2) 02Re:Negative interest rates, i.e. money tax - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 641 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:22] <exec> 08└─Well a negative interest rate is really a fee on holding your money. I don't see how people would complain about a -1% yearly interest rate, but would be OK with a $10 monthly surcharge on an account with less than $1000 balance... which would be at very least 12% compounded annually (I know it's mo...
[07:54:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Positive impact? - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:24] <exec> 08└─Only until cash dies, along with privacy.
[07:54:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:2) 02Re:Positive impact? - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:26] <exec> 08└─Well unless things change, soon enough common people will have absolutely no money, physical or otherwise, and will likely resort to combination of theft and barter. Of course the term theft is very loose here, as wealthy land owners might consider it theft for you to grow subsistence on "their" lan...
[07:54:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:They seem bent on fulfilling - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 631 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:28] <exec> 08└─Revelation 13:13-17 (MSG): This second Beast worked magical signs, dazzling people by making fire come down from Heaven. It used the magic it got from the Beast to dupe earth dwellers, getting them to make an image of the Beast that received the deathblow and lived. It was able to animate the image...
[07:54:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:How do you pay a criminal to do a job for you?? - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:29] <exec> 08└─how does one pay a criminal
[07:54:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03soylentsandor [309] (Score:2) 02Re:How do you pay a criminal to do a job for you?? - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:31] <exec> 08└─If Sweden has no cash (...)
[07:54:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Single points of failure? - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:54:33] <exec> 08└─So, what happens when there is a blackout of the power grid? Or just when there is a big problem somewhere in the network (servers unavailable)? The thing with cash is, is that it "Always works".
[07:54:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Single points of failure? - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:35] <exec> 08└─So, what happens when there is a blackout of the power grid?
[07:54:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Single points of failure? - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:36] <exec> 08└─My wallet doesn't need any electricity, so for the shop owner there should be no restriction on accepting the cash that I offer. Might be a bit difficult with change for the first few transactions. In the worst case wares can be taken outside for selling.
[07:54:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score:2) 02Re:Single points of failure? - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:38] <exec> 08└─The electric cashier desks won't work, and thus you'll not be able to pay anyway.
[07:54:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:2) 02Re:Single points of failure? - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 1144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:40] <exec> 08└─In the dark too? Quite a feat. In modern places, when that happens, they just shut up shop and send people home. You literally couldn't write the receipts or check the cash (no UV testers!) quick enough to make it worthwhile to stay open. And the security issues (no alarm system, darkness, etc.) wou...
[07:54:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Power outage in retail shops - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:42] <exec> 08└─My first job was in a grocery store. The day the power went out, the manager dug out a box of cranks. Once one of those handles was mated with an electromechanical cash register, purchases could continue to be be rung up. No sweat. (It was daytime and there were big windows at the front of the store...
[07:54:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03scruffybeard [533] (Score:2) 02Re:Single points of failure? - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:43] <exec> 08└─Does this happen often in Sweden? I very rarely have large amounts of cash on me, mostly because my credit/debit cards are so reliable. Yes it always works, but it can be inconvenient to carry around more than a few hundred. I feel that your risk of loss/theft is higher than prolonged blackout condi...
[07:54:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Single points of failure? - 06Can You Imagine a 'Cashless Society'? Sweden is Nearly There - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:45] <exec> 08└─Here in The Netherlands blackouts aren't so often, but electronic payment is a few times a year unavailable for one to a few hours. Yet, there is a big push here as well for electronic payment only.
[07:54:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03KiloByte [375] 02Re:Trolling is the best idea I can come up with - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 82 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:47] <exec> 08└─It's like watching the "Triumph of the Will" would sway me to join the Nazi party.
[07:54:48] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Trolling is the best idea I can come up with - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 65 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:49] <exec> 08└─Ein PID, ein Initialisierungssystem, ein Distro! Heil Poettering!
[07:54:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Trolling is the best idea I can come up with - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:50] <exec> 08└─卐 Heil Poettering! 卐 - reichd
[07:54:51] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Trolling is the best idea I can come up with - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 90 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:52] <exec> 08└─"We're planning to integrate the codebase of polandd into systemd as systemd-lebensraumd."
[07:54:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Trolling is the best idea I can come up with - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:53] <exec> 08└─Je suis systemd.
[07:54:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03BasilBrush [3994] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Missed Opportinuty? - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:55] <exec> 08└─There's only amateur coders still arguing about systemd. Real programmers moved to OSX years ago.
[07:54:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02In other Resist-systemd news... - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 683 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:57] <exec> 08└─Back in 2006, a lite version was spun off of MEPIS. This became antiX (pronounced "Antiques"). In recent years, MEPIS' chief developer abandoned his distro and DistroWatch currently has it labeled Dormant. Since then, the antiX guys have spun a distro that is bigger[1] than their own distro and whic...
[07:54:58] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03FatPhil [863] 02Re:Devuan status - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 741 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:59] <exec> 08└─I've been Debian for ~15 years. I hope I'll be Devuan for the next 15 years. I will also give a hat-tip here to Gentoo, a distribution which I've tarred perhaps unfairly over the last decade (but that is because they do attract too many inane ricers), but as I was looking for a systemd-less distro e...
[07:55:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Gentoo - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 782 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:00] <exec> 08└─As somebody who has never had much distro loyalty (as in, used SuSE, CentOS, Ubuntu, Gentoo, Arch, Linux From Scratch, Slackware, and a few others), I have to say that Gentoo is extremely handy for personal use. I wouldn't run it on a server, because updates are too complicated for that, but for a d...
[07:55:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Devuan status - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:02] <exec> 08└─Ug - is there an actual readable document behind this: http://judecnelson.blogspot.com.ee , all I get is a blank page.
[07:55:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Devuan status - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:04] <exec> 08└─Enable Javascript. Make sure you're using systemd. View the whole thing on a 30" monitor consisting of s single Gnome3 window that is 94% empty space... :-)
[07:55:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:Devuan status - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:05] <exec> 08└─fatphil, AC: It also works if you enable Javascript, purge systemd from your half-Wheezy half-Jessie system, and view it on a screen controlled by LXDE :-) The article itself is interesting and well-written, I found.
[07:55:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:Devuan status - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:07] <exec> 08└─He (Jude) also explains the design a bit, I'm not going to copy his article, but the three main points are: - the ( /dev ) filesystem is the API (*) - the shell is the glue - there are multiple device event sources he says vdev should work without DBus as well, and multi-platform not just Linux. (*)...
[07:55:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03zeigerpuppy [1298] (Score:2) 02Re:Devuan status - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:09] <exec> 08└─Ha, gotta love the wheezy Jessie! apt-get install -t unstable Is my friend. I would jump ship to BSD if there were any distro that supported Xen and ZFS but until then it's bastard hybrid Debian all the way!
[07:55:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02systemd is a lot like Windows 10 - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 1777 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:55:11] <exec> 08└─(Yeah, that's right, I said it.) The core is very competent and robust, and it actually runs pretty fast, but the interface is ghastly, and the software engineers and project managers are some of the most divisive pricks in the industry. It's only normal for them to surround themselves with complete...
[07:55:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alias [2825] (Score:1) 02Re:systemd is a lot like Windows 10 - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 2070 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:12] <exec> 08└─I have, in the past, made the argument that systemd doesn't do anything that couldn't be done before. In fact, I know that many of the things it does, (dependency-based setup, sequential logging, etc..) have in fact been done before. There are numerous other ways to start and maintain processes on L...
[07:55:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:systemd is a lot like Windows 10 - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:14] <exec> 08└─Since it's also hard to tell in advance what the outcome of a debug session will be for all but the most obvious of problems "nuke and reimage" is slowly becoming our default problem solving stance for Linux boxes, which is a horrible, horrible state of affairs and a poor direction to be headed in,...
[07:55:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alias [2825] (Score:1) 02Re:systemd is a lot like Windows 10 - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 1127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:16] <exec> 08└─"That's what happens when you don't think things through properly before you start hammering out the code, I guess..." I would love to agree with you, but I believe they did think of this and decided against giving users the freedom to do that easily. Anyone who understands enough about how Linux wo...
[07:55:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:Shiny toys, come and get em'! - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 692 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:18] <exec> 08└─The AC is onto something. LP has made it clear one of the central goals of systemd is to give the distro wars a way to make peace. Systemd + BTRFS would make it possible to run applications with specific version of libraries without reconfiguring your system. Combine this with a patching linux kerne...
[07:55:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Shiny toys, come and get em'! - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:19] <exec> 08└─Systemd + BTRFS would make it possible to run applications with specific version of libraries without reconfiguring your system.
[07:55:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:Shiny toys, come and get em'! - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 806 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:21] <exec> 08└─Sure and I use LD_LIBRARY_PATH to reroute applications. But what was proposed (on his blog) was that say Redhat has deployed some neat application v2.0 and you are using Debian and they only have v1.0. In principle you could mix version of a wholelotta stuff , but with out having to mess with the sy...
[07:55:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Shiny toys, come and get em'! - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:23] <exec> 08└─So they poorly reimplemented namespaces and a vfs like plan9 did over three decades ago. This is just more unnecessary "oh shiny!" complexity layered on top of existing complexity.
[07:55:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Shiny toys, come and get em'! - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:25] <exec> 08└─I know it sounds whacky, but if you want reliability on a large scale, this is one of the ways...
[07:55:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shiny toys, come and get em'! - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:26] <exec> 08└─Unix has retarded OS research by 10 years and linux has retarded it by 20. — Dennis Ritchie as quoted by by Boyd Roberts in 9fans.
[07:55:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Shiny toys, come and get em'! - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:28] <exec> 08└─I think Linux is retarding it by more than 20 years thanks to systemd. Worse is better, should be the mantra. Features only add unnecessary bloat and do nothing for the consumer and torture the developer along with IT.
[07:55:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:Shiny toys, come and get em'! - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 579 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:30] <exec> 08└─you should see opensuse leap. Essentially I agree that it is going to seem messy, but I give LP some leeway because Pulseaudio started as awful and is now indispensable. Seriously, I can have audio flying via bluetooth or HDMI and it just works. I am a bit miffed about the huge package shift that oc...
[07:55:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alias [2825] (Score:1) 02Re:Shiny toys, come and get em'! - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:32] <exec> 08└─So, basically... Containers...
[07:55:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alias [2825] (Score:1) 02Re:Shiny toys, come and get em'! - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 710 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:33] <exec> 08└─"Systemd + BTRFS would make it possible to run applications with specific version of libraries without reconfiguring your system." That was possible before systemd. There are a variety of ways to do it. One way is to just link the app executable against the version of the library you want. The unver...
[07:55:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:Shiny toys, come and get em'! - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 1108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:35] <exec> 08└─you'll get no argument from me, I have used all of those methods! The one being proposed (AFAIK) is that with BTRFS there is high compression, security (against hacking) and automatic deduping. And it is a proper volume. So distros can use that hard work of making sure packages work together, and us...
[07:55:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alias [2825] (Score:1) 02Re:Shiny toys, come and get em'! - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 869 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:37] <exec> 08└─"But I really do see a need for linux to become considerably more robust, so we can get sufficient momentum to exploit the enormous size of the Android ecosystem, and perhaps raise the percentage of desktops to....5%?" I do think app sandboxen that could keep their sand thoroughly contained and prev...
[07:55:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03novak [4683] (Score:2) 02Re:Shiny toys, come and get em'! - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:39] <exec> 08└─systemd is pushed by the Freedesktop people (those trying to turn Linux into a Windows 8 competitor). Server people tend to be the graybeards that the systemd developers despise, because they want systems that work
[07:55:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:Shiny toys, come and get em'! - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:40] <exec> 08└─Systemd does some very cool stuff, no doubt about it. However ... there is little need for all this magic on desktops
[07:55:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Uh oh.... - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:42] <exec> 08└─I changed my mind. More ideas please!!!!!
[07:55:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Uh oh.... - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:44] <exec> 08└─I'm glad to hear that at least one of the "protest distros" has survived. A lot sprung up in a short time, and most of them seemed doomed to die once the people behind realized how big a task a distro is. If the efforts have been focused on Devuan, it may be time to add that one to the "keep an eye...
[07:55:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03present_arms [4392] (Score:2) 02Re:Uh oh.... - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:46] <exec> 08└─That makers 2 of us, except I've used it longer, I think Texstar would rather have his balls removed with a rusty razor blade than have systemd infect his distro Alie
[07:55:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03novak [4683] (Score:2) 02Re:Uh oh.... - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:47] <exec> 08└─Is PCLinuxOS a reasonable replacement for say, mint? I myself use crux primarily, but sometimes I have to put together a machine for someone less technically adept. Thus far I've been sticking with systemd-less debian, and it's ok. But I would prefer to use and support something a little more-future...
[07:55:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03present_arms [4392] (Score:2) 02Re:Uh oh.... - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:49] <exec> 08└─In my humble opinion, yes it is, it also has Mate and Cinnamon of you like those desktops, plus it's a rolling release, install once use always, I myself have made some community ISO'S of trinity (see sig), KDE and Mate so people can use it without downloading 10 months worth of updates :) the commu...
[07:55:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03novak [4683] (Score:2) 02Re:Uh oh.... - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 564 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:51] <exec> 08└─Great, I'll give it a try and see how I like it. I see it has LXDE too which is what I usually put on machines to be used by people who do not like/know tiling WMs. I personally like trinity quite a bit too, and it's pretty easy for someone to get the hang of so I might actually give that a shot as...
[07:55:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alias [2825] (Score:1) 02Re:Uh oh.... - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 424 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:53] <exec> 08└─"I know people say linux isn't about choice but that's one of the biggest reasons I love it." Linux has always been about choice. Linus has said so many times. GNU / the GPL have always been about freedom. (Read the GNU manifesto.) The GPL has allowed programmers who care about software freedoms som...
[07:55:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03novak [4683] (Score:2) 02Re:Uh oh.... - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:54] <exec> 08└─You hear the opposite a lot. http://islinuxaboutchoice.com [islinuxaboutchoice.com] http://www.redhat.com [redhat.com] I like my choice though so you won't get a lot of argument out of me.
[07:55:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alias [2825] (Score:1) 02Re:Uh oh.... - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:56] <exec> 08└─The post about pulseaudio gives interesting insight into the mindset that may be pervasive in the systemd crowd. I haven't yet seen a software situation where user choice couldn't be maintained *and* supplied with good defaults that take care of the users who don't want or need the choice.
[07:55:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03tekk [5704] (Score:1) 02Re:Uh oh.... - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:58] <exec> 08└─General consensus among Slackware users at this point is that if Slack adopts systemd there's a fork that takes most of the serious users with it, not a distro to worry about.
[07:55:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03FatPhil [863] 02Re:Uh oh.... - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 468 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:59] <exec> 08└─You nearly get it, but are missing the most important thing - "don't" is a passive thing. I'm happy doing "don't", as I don't have to do anything. However, "change distro" is an active thing. And that rightly pisses me off. Not least as I have my own finely-tuned deployment scripts that I've evolved...
[07:56:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score:2) 02Re:Uh oh.... - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:01] <exec> 08└─This shit was pushed upon us, that's *their* bad.
[07:56:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Uh oh.... - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 646 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:03] <exec> 08└─Because the future only holds systemd options, with tons of core software people require depending on it as well. Some will be able to hold out for a few years I'm sure, but eventually something will come down the pipe that requires newer versions. Up until now Linux had only one real dependency, th...
[07:56:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Uh oh.... - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:05] <exec> 08└─for year 2015
[07:56:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alias [2825] (Score:1) 02Re:Uh oh.... - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 1996 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:06] <exec> 08└─"Face it, no one was twisting anyone's arm." I know I am going to sound like a conspiracy theorist for saying this, but... Arms were almost certainly twisted. The current status of systemd in the Linux world doesn't make sense unless people in charge of projects, who have been doing this for a long...
[07:56:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Stunned - 06Stunned Archaeologists Find 22 Ancient Greek Shipwrecks - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:56:08] <exec> 08└─Should have bought charms against stun then.
[07:56:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Need to hurry - 06Stunned Archaeologists Find 22 Ancient Greek Shipwrecks - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:56:10] <exec> 08└─They better hurry and find all the ships they can, before the sea level rises thirty meters.
[07:56:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PocketSizeSUn [5340] 02Re:Every month a new example of bad cops - 06To Protect and to Serve - 187 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:12] <exec> 08└─Again - probably 85% of all cops are "good guys". But, the system attracts the bad guys. And, the good guys, being indoctrinated into the system, tend to want to protect their "brothers".
[07:56:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] 02Re:Every month a new example of bad cops - 06To Protect and to Serve - 312 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:13] <exec> 08└─It is a high stress job. Just about everyone you encounter doesn't trust you, can't be trusted, is a crook .. etc. Pretty soon you come to the realization that everyone is guilty of something and they deserve whats coming to them. You wake up one day and realize that you don't have any friends that...
[07:56:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Every month a new example of bad cops - 06To Protect and to Serve - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:15] <exec> 08└─Stop. When did high stress suddenly equal danger?
[07:56:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Every month a new example of bad cops - 06To Protect and to Serve - 763 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:17] <exec> 08└─The real problem is too many US cops are cowards (and bullies). That's why they are stressed. They are afraid to put their lives on the line to "protect and serve". They prefer to risk other peoples lives - even if those other people might be innocent. That's why people get tased and shot for bad re...
[07:56:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Every month a new example of bad cops - 06To Protect and to Serve - 1083 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:19] <exec> 08└─"It is a high stress job." kurenai.tsubasa already addressed that nonsense. I've had higher stress level jobs than cops for much of my life. Cops do NOT risk their lives every day, as they wish to portray. And, much of the supposed risk is brought on by their own actions. How 'bout that "stop and fr...
[07:56:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:Every month a new example of bad cops - 06To Protect and to Serve - 1156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:20] <exec> 08└─You hit the nail on the head. I know two people: one who is a cop and one who is an ex-cop. From what I have heard from the ex-cop, what we hear about on the news is only a fraction of what goes on. In his words: "If you heard the conversations I heard in the locker room, you'd never trust a single...
[07:56:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Why those 2 cops were immediately arrested - 06To Protect and to Serve - 477 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:22] <exec> 08└─It's OK for white cops to shoot black people BUT it is NOT acceptable for black people to shoot white people--even if those black people are cops. [truthvoice.com] ...and, if you go to news sources that aren't heavily censoring which stories get covered, these police abuse stories are not simply *mo...
[07:56:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Strange definition of "good guys" - 06To Protect and to Serve - 424 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:56:24] <exec> 08└─I wouldn't consider people who defend scumbags like this to be "good guys". And while the number of cops who directly murder, severely injure, or sexually assault people might be somewhat small, pretty much all cops engage in unjust and/or unconstitutional behavior (such as Stingrays, DUI checkpoint...
[07:56:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Re:Strange definition of "good guys" - 06To Protect and to Serve - 719 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:26] <exec> 08└─I hope that you can see that raping random women, or shooting random suspects are orders of magnitude worse than snooping on your telephone calls. Officers enforcing drug laws may be viewed as dupes, whereas officers beating a man to death just because he is black can only be viewed as evil. "The sy...
[07:56:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Strange definition of "good guys" - 06To Protect and to Serve - 146 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:27] <exec> 08└─I hope that you can see that raping random women, or shooting random suspects are orders of magnitude worse than snooping on your telephone calls.
[07:56:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Strange definition of "good guys" - 06To Protect and to Serve - 1375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:29] <exec> 08└─I don't know about Cheney and Rumsfield but Bush actually made jokes about destroying Iraq, the video of him at a dinner doing so is online. You really don't realize how truly sick he was until you see that video, the way he cracks jokes about an action that killed over a million is truly disgusting...
[07:56:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Strange definition of "good guys" - 06To Protect and to Serve - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:31] <exec> 08└─At the same time, if someone has two convictions for negligent homicide, I won't hire him for a position where he must be conscientious.
[07:56:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not so fast - 06To Protect and to Serve - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:33] <exec> 08└─kuronei has her own issues that result in her seeing everything as an attack by evil feminists. She's like that systemd spammer who used to try to make every single story into a systemd story.
[07:56:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not so fast - 06To Protect and to Serve - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:34] <exec> 08└─I'm confused. Is systemd an attack by evil feminists, or are evil feminists caused by systemd?
[07:56:35] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03fishybell [3156] 02Re:Not so fast - 06To Protect and to Serve - 34 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:36] <exec> 08└─Become powerful, not weak victims.
[07:56:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not so fast - 06To Protect and to Serve - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:38] <exec> 08└─At least it would help with repeat offenders.
[07:56:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not so fast - 06To Protect and to Serve - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:40] <exec> 08└─Victim-blaming can be part of the solution
[07:56:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Not so fast - 06To Protect and to Serve - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:41] <exec> 08└─to date it seems that cameras are better at protecting the people than the officers
[07:56:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03bziman [3577] (Score:2) 02Re:Candidate for a prison bitch - 06To Protect and to Serve - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:43] <exec> 08└─Being forced to give oral sex in prison seems to be an appropriate punishment.
[07:56:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02CATO tracks police misconduct every day - 06To Protect and to Serve - 2258 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:56:45] <exec> 08└─They do it via the National Police Misconduct Reporting Project, at http://www.policemisconduct.net [policemisconduct.net] . Here are some examples from today: San Juan, Texas: An officer was suspended after a rollover crash that left several injured. The report indicates alcohol may have been invo...
[07:56:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Where the blame lies for ongoing abuses - 06To Protect and to Serve - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:47] <exec> 08└─You forget to mention gutless governors in whose power it is to appoint a special prosecutor when the local district attorneys won't do their jobs--or purposely muff the task--and don't put dirty cops in jail. -- gewg_
[07:56:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] (Score:2) 02Re:Bite down, hard... - 06To Protect and to Serve - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:48] <exec> 08└─If it was voluntary then why would she bite him?
[07:56:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonymousCowardNoMore [5416] (Score:2) 02Re:Bite down, hard... - 06To Protect and to Serve - 917 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:50] <exec> 08└─Drop the ticket and add a murder, and I think he could get away with that. Dead victims don't get to testify, so something like: "I told the boss I was going to do traffic stops so I could look around for some booty—I didn't want my wife to find out—I'm so very sorry. I chatted up this woman and...
[07:56:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bite down, hard... - 06To Protect and to Serve - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:52] <exec> 08└─Although I agree with your general point, "the bitch is crazy, she offered oral sex then bit me. I think she was angry about getting a $X ticket". Oral sex + biting does not necessarily equal rape, although rape + oral sex should definitely result in some biting.
[07:56:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bite down, hard... - 06To Protect and to Serve - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:54] <exec> 08└─she offered oral sex then bit me.
[07:56:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] 02Good cops? - 06To Protect and to Serve - 304 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:56:55] <exec> 08└─The greatest Evil is when the Good do nothing. To get your badge, or become an officer of the court (lawyer, judge, balif, etc.), you swear an oath to uphold the Constitution and the law. They have betrayed both the trust of the Public and that oath sworn on their Honor before God, Family and commun...
[07:56:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:2) 02Re:Cable missed the boat - 06 What Will Replace the Cable Box: a Better Box Or No Box at All? - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:57] <exec> 08└─Perhaps because individual streaming to 10000 active customers takes 10000 data channels whereas sending 200 channels to everyone just takes 300.
[07:56:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Cable missed the boat - 06 What Will Replace the Cable Box: a Better Box Or No Box at All? - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:59] <exec> 08└─And Netflix manages to do this for far less charge, so what is wrong with cable companies?
[07:57:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Rid yourself of "Appointment TV" - 06 What Will Replace the Cable Box: a Better Box Or No Box at All? - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:57:01] <exec> 08└─I'm glad I didn't try to spend even more to make a MythTV box
[07:57:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Rid yourself of "Appointment TV" - 06 What Will Replace the Cable Box: a Better Box Or No Box at All? - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:57:02] <exec> 08└─Am I the only one here that uses something like MythTV?
[07:57:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Rid yourself of "Appointment TV" - 06 What Will Replace the Cable Box: a Better Box Or No Box at All? - 2164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:57:04] <exec> 08└─No, I do it too. Cablecard was the secret weapon the cable companies could have leveraged to stay in the game, much like they dominated during the 'cable ready' period. But greed and stupidity are ending them. They should admit that they will never design the ultimate cable box. It isn't their main...
[07:57:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Cable missed the boat - 06 What Will Replace the Cable Box: a Better Box Or No Box at All? - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:57:06] <exec> 08└─what a huge charge the cable company is making for the privilege of receiving a cable feed at your house
[07:57:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03chewbacon [1032] (Score:2) 02Re:Bad ui, or just bad? - 06 What Will Replace the Cable Box: a Better Box Or No Box at All? - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:57:08] <exec> 08└─SmartTV is a joke. Samsung acted like they quit supporting my SmartTV as soon as I got it home and plugged it in. I went out and got a Roku stick - my favorite media gadget.
[07:57:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:2) 02False Dichotomy - 06 What Will Replace the Cable Box: a Better Box Or No Box at All? - 975 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:57:10] <exec> 08└─I use this subject so often it auto-completes! Nothing and everything and lots of intermediates will collectively replace and not replace the cable box. Me personally, I cut cable about 2 years ago. I now do internet, AppleTV, alternate between Hulu and Netflix, $10 rabbit ears that work surprisingl...
[07:57:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:False Dichotomy - 06 What Will Replace the Cable Box: a Better Box Or No Box at All? - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:57:11] <exec> 08└─Now people have lots of choice, and as a result the quality of (some) programming has increased a fair bit.
[07:57:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03chewbacon [1032] (Score:2) 02It's a hustle - 06 What Will Replace the Cable Box: a Better Box Or No Box at All? - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:57:13] <exec> 08└─Pay to rent a box, but if you buy one the functionality could be decreased. When it boils down to it, you cannot consume the content the way you want. I tried my hand at MythTV and, if you can get it configured (it isn't real hard, but takes patience), it is a beautiful thing. However, Cox DRMs so m...
[07:57:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:4, Touché) 02Re:Wow - 06To Study the Brain, a Doctor Puts Himself Under the Knife - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:57:15] <exec> 08└─Either you must not know many 67-year-olds, or the ones in your area must be unwell couch potatoes... These days, most of the ones in my area are more active as they were in middle age: they hit the gym 2-3 nights/week, take high-energy dance classes, volunteer at all kinds of stuff, and generally l...
[07:57:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wow - 06To Study the Brain, a Doctor Puts Himself Under the Knife - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:57:17] <exec> 08└─This is surprisingly common among scientists. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[07:57:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:the problem - 06To Study the Brain, a Doctor Puts Himself Under the Knife - 4062 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:57:19] <exec> 08└─I started off by saying "When a market is diverse with many medium players, regulation can be effective" since I believe that. But, "there are limits to what money can buy" is just factually false. Even when it comes to criminal laws, when there's enough money involved, elected officials, cops and j...
[07:57:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:the problem - 06To Study the Brain, a Doctor Puts Himself Under the Knife - 712 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:57:21] <exec> 08└─I think it's a chicken and egg problem. In order to understand more about the brain, we need to do experiments. In order to do experiments (safely, humanely), we need to understand more about the brain. Someone has to take the first bold step into the darkness. Much like the Nazis and their inhumane...
[07:57:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:the problem - 06To Study the Brain, a Doctor Puts Himself Under the Knife - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:57:22] <exec> 08└─I think it's a chicken and egg problem. In order to understand more about the brain, we need to do experiments. In order to do experiments (safely, humanely), we need to understand more about the brain.
[07:57:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03JeanCroix [573] (Score:3, Funny) 02Prior Art. Almost. - 06To Study the Brain, a Doctor Puts Himself Under the Knife - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:57:24] <exec> 08└─Dr. Egon Spengler attempted this over thirty years ago, but was prevented from completing it by Dr. Peter Venkman.
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[08:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02RDU Area - 06What the Dust in Your House Says About You - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:45:23] <exec> 08└─" The scientists began with a small pilot study, recruiting forty families in the Raleigh-Durham area "
[08:46:00] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] 02Re:I'm from the Union, and I'm here to help - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 1285 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:46:00] <exec> 08└─> Companies are going to look at decreasing labor costs by reducing the labor force. Until companies look at reducing labor costs by reducing the pay of upper management, I have zero sympathy for their wails that they will go bankrupt if minimum wage is raised, or that they are taxed too heavily. CE...
[08:46:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm from the Union, and I'm here to help - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:46:02] <exec> 08└─What about the poor unemployed corps?
[08:46:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:46:23] <exec> 08└─That's where the Basic Income comes in.
[08:46:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 679 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:46:24] <exec> 08└─This is exactly why we absolutely need a Basic Income pretty soon. Before long, most of the low-end jobs are going to be automated away. There's simply too many unskilled people for the amount of unskilled work available. The typical advice is for people to get an education, but our education system...
[08:46:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:46:32] <exec> 08└─Or perhaps they'll write the next Harry Potter (love it or hate it, it brought billions into the economy), make sought after handmade goods, etc. The key is to make the income actually high enough to actually get by.
[08:46:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:46:38] <exec> 08└─That would be fine if you can also convince HR departments that few jobs actually NEED college graduates rather than them claiming they need H1-Bs because there are no citizens who can do the job.
[08:48:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oregon Experiment - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 1104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:48:20] <exec> 08└─In Eugene, Oregon (where this was), the units were dirt cheap (this was also in the 1990's when I was there), and of course when it comes to junkies they don't mind sleeping 5 to a room, and sometimes more because they don't care or notice who crashes there, or don't know who has or hasn't paid, or...
[08:48:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score:2) 02Re:What's the root? - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:48:24] <exec> 08└─TFA is basically an advertisement for this real estate developer, so the whole idea might be fantasy in the first place. Rents must be insane though if someone would pay $900/month for a "dorm" when that could easily be a mortgage payment on a $100K+ house.
[08:48:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Reminds me of something... - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:48:26] <exec> 08└─Hmmm...I remember a similar place where they did lots of talk about "building community" with communal areas and the like, where was that? Oh yeah...Pruitt-Igoe [wikipedia.org]. I mean you'd think these people would have heard a little phrase known as "the tragedy of the commons" but I guess those t...
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[09:45:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02Definitions.. - 06What the Dust in Your House Says About You - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:45:19] <exec> 08└─whose definition was used for any of the "sparkling" houses? Is it anything like sparkling water?
[09:45:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Missing info - 06First Linux Ransomware Program Cracked, for Now - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:45:30] <exec> 08└─Classic Bitcoin scam. The servers got "hacked" and now the users of the server are out Bitcoins. Note the scare quotes imply the story is dubius, but hard to prove false (since you can't track the coins until they are spent again).
[09:45:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:Ultrasound elastography with more moving parts - 06New "Tricorder" Technology Might be Able to "Hear" Tumors Growing - 454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:45:41] <exec> 08└─I wouldn't object to being heated by a thousandth of a degree. My question is how they control for natural variations in temperature at such precise scales? Surely over the course of a few seconds it's entirely possible for a person's internals to naturally change temperature by a thousandth of a de...
[09:46:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'm from the Union, and I'm here to help - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:01] <exec> 08└─If the minimum wage goes up to $15, a couple things are going to happen. The purchasing power of the dollar is going to go down
[09:46:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:33] <exec> 08└─The fact that people are actually trying to live on these types of crap jobs is the problem
[09:46:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Moore's Observation" not "Moore's Law" - 06Carbon Nanotubes in a Race Against Time to Replace Silicon - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:57] <exec> 08└─The term "law" has several meanings. Only one of those is related to legislation.
[09:46:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Moore's Observation" not "Moore's Law" - 06Carbon Nanotubes in a Race Against Time to Replace Silicon - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:59] <exec> 08└─It's a law, we don't even need to put effort into research as this will happen anyway. Just like gravity.
[09:46:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Although? - 06Carbon Nanotubes in a Race Against Time to Replace Silicon - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:47:00] <exec> 08└─Although made of carbon, single-wall CNTs are excellent conductors
[09:47:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't hook it up to your router. - 06Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:47:25] <exec> 08└─Hasn't happened yet and as long as you aren't pirating pre-release $200M films, you don't have to worry about them coming after you with a warrant.
[09:47:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Millenials - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:47:46] <exec> 08└─> interview to move in somewhere Yeah, no. I fill out your fucking application, show you my stubs, and pay your fucking application fee. You run your check and determine that I can pay the rent and am not a convicted felon, maybe check my references. You let me in or don't, but the only words you're...
[09:48:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Absolutely.Geek [5328] (Score:2) 02Re:grown-ups don't live in dorms - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:48:27] <exec> 08└─Having my own dishes was the way I dealt with my filthy flatmates during university. Cokk for myself; do my own dishes and put them back in my room. The kitchen was always a mess but I just worked around that.
[09:53:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:systemd is a lot like Windows 10 - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:53:27] <exec> 08└─Yes, I think the design was very deliberately poisonous.
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[10:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Why they didn't catch on.... cost - 06What Happened to Passenger Hovercraft? - 1247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:45:21] <exec> 08└─They didn't catch on because they were more expensive than ferries, and could carry less cargo. The majority of people, when given a choice, went for the cheaper option. For example, the English channel was served for years by a ferry company called Hoverspeed ( https://en.wikipedia.org
[10:45:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Why they didn't catch on.... cost - 06What Happened to Passenger Hovercraft? - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:45:22] <exec> 08└─Strictly speaking a properly designed hovercraft will be able to float when all engines are off. They basically have to be to be safe to operate on open water.
[10:45:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Re:Definitions.. - 06What the Dust in Your House Says About You - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:45:32] <exec> 08└─The most surprising for me is that pilots have sparkling houses.
[10:45:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02Re:Definitions.. - 06What the Dust in Your House Says About You - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:45:34] <exec> 08└─Only the small ones, though
[10:46:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 870 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:46:52] <exec> 08└─You are conflating two different problems. The H1-B situation needs to be addressed by giving H1-B's improved access to green cards and job switching. If they are good enough to fly halfway round the world to work for you, surely they are good enough to make a home in your country. The HR situation...
[10:47:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ridiculousmuch? - 06Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:47:36] <exec> 08└─Massive hosts files are extremely inefficient. It slows ALL DNS requests down.
[10:47:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02A honest company... - 06Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:47:48] <exec> 08└─...when you take into account that "vizio" is Italian for "defect" (from the same latin term, "vitium", you get "vice").
[10:48:18] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03dyingtolive [952] 02Re:Great Idea - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 35 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:48:18] <exec> 08└─Everyone is someone else's asshole.
[10:48:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:What's the root? - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:48:47] <exec> 08└─Where does $100K buy you a house?
[10:48:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What's the root? - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:48:49] <exec> 08└─Where the fuck doesn't it? I'll tell you where: In areas where it is foolish and wasteful to live in. If you expect a mansion or a giant house, no wonder you can't find any houses for below $100K. There are acceptable houses in many places for under $60K. At least in the US. So don't live in some ar...
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[11:45:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03nicdoye [3908] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:Why they didn't catch on.... cost - 06What Happened to Passenger Hovercraft? - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:45:29] <exec> 08└─I travelled on one. Only 30 minutes across the channel which is far quicker than a boat. Being such a short journey, it meant they were fairly utilitarian inside, much like a giant bus. Smooth crossing, but somewhat noisy, from memory.
[11:45:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Missing info - 06First Linux Ransomware Program Cracked, for Now - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:45:53] <exec> 08└─Evolution tends to weed out people who run binaries of unknown pedigree as root.
[11:46:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'm from the Union, and I'm here to help - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:46:23] <exec> 08└─what about them corpses?
[11:46:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] (Score:2) 02Re:Hundreds, nationwide, eh? - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:46:33] <exec> 08└─I thought that page was vandalised: The incentive to deregulate comes from the consumer who wishes to pay a competitive rate for items or services, rather than one set by the government often at the behest of businesses or unions.
[11:46:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:46:51] <exec> 08└─Possibly. You're less likely to find someone sitting on their ass playing XBox all day there, so there're probably a few skilled people who could use an apprentice.
[11:46:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:46:57] <exec> 08└─Skills not education, tftp. You can be dumb as a sack of bricks and become competently skilled at welding or any number of other skilled trades. As for "basic income"? The only way I'd ever agree to even a dime is if anyone taking it lost their right to vote until they got off of it. If we're going...
[11:47:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:47:02] <exec> 08└─Go call a plumber/contractor/electrician/welder and tell me that again after you've paid them.
[11:47:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wrong question - 06Carbon Nanotubes in a Race Against Time to Replace Silicon - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:47:19] <exec> 08└─The problem with using energy shells is that excited states decay very quickly. There might be a way to do interesting things with the spins, though.
[11:47:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not at all hard to believe - 06Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:47:53] <exec> 08└─Business has a long and distinguished history of killing golden geese and running things into the ground. I think the MBA shit-meisters refer to this as a "business life cycle".
[11:47:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So sick of smart TVs - 06Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:47:56] <exec> 08└─It's called a "monitor".
[11:48:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Great Idea - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:48:35] <exec> 08└─You'd think that it would be just a bunch of quiet sperg shut-ins jacking off to Anime all day
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[12:45:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score:2) 02Case study - 06What Happened to Passenger Hovercraft? - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:29] <exec> 08└─Here is an interesting document, They quote hovercraft having larger capital costs to catamaran (Table 6.1) and significantly higher operating costs (Table 6.6). I didn't see a justification for the case studies they selected (e.g. why 20 passenger hovercraft but no similar size catamaran? why no la...
[12:45:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Re:Definitions.. - 06What the Dust in Your House Says About You - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:45:41] <exec> 08└─Small enough to see the sparkling microbe perspective but too small to distinguish between toilet seat and pillowcase.
[12:45:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03mmcmonster [401] (Score:2) 02Re:Missing info - 06First Linux Ransomware Program Cracked, for Now - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:45:55] <exec> 08└─Do you have to be root for ransomware to be a problem? I would think that an application running with the user's permissions would be enough to encrypt the user's ~/Documents folder.
[12:46:29] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bziman [3577] 02Hundreds, nationwide, eh? - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 489 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:29] <exec> 08└─There are so many fast food workers in the United States, that thousands or tens of thousands of them probably call in sick every day. If "hundreds" are striking, chances are no one is actually going to notice. They'd need a hundred thousand to strike to inconvenience anyone enough to notice. And if...
[12:46:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hundreds, nationwide, eh? - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:46:40] <exec> 08└─such people are more troublesome than well paid loyal workers
[12:46:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:46:47] <exec> 08└─That's one hell of a classy mum you got.
[12:47:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:47:06] <exec> 08└─That's kind of exactly what I said.
[12:47:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kawumpa [1187] (Score:1) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 443 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:47:07] <exec> 08└─One major problem with exporting all or almost all skilled labor to other countries is that you also lose all creativity and innovation possible in this area. So while a company might gain a short term cost advantage it sacrifices a long term competitive advantage. On aggregate an economy loses much...
[12:54:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:Shiny toys, come and get em'! - 06'systemd' Developers Have First Conference - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:54:24] <exec> 08└─well there is a chrome plugin that runs android apps? So if you create a VM and run android in it....might be useful? Just throwing a few things out there, as computers are getting faster, somethings just become possible. Virtualisation for example, is almost turnkey, but maybe a bit complicated?
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[13:45:24] <exec> 08└─the first thing that comes to mind is to hack it device to strangle the owner.
[13:45:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03bart9h [767] (Score:2) 02Re:I must have some problem.. - 06A Different Kind of Wearable Technology: MIT's LineFORM - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:26] <exec> 08└─s/it/the/
[13:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03khakipuce [233] (Score:2) 02Re:Why they didn't catch on.... cost - 06What Happened to Passenger Hovercraft? - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:37] <exec> 08└─I also travelled across the channel on one once, it was good fun but coming back it was too rough and we were put on a ferry. The thing that sticks in my mind is that they treated it like a flight, with cabin crew and all the rest and called it a flight. I guess that was to make it feel a bit more s...
[13:45:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Obvious - 06What the Dust in Your House Says About You - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:45:51] <exec> 08└─The dust in your house says that cleaning is overdue. ;-)
[13:46:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Missing info - 06First Linux Ransomware Program Cracked, for Now - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:46:06] <exec> 08└─Servers rarely have an user's ~/Documents folder (unless it happens to be a file server).
[13:46:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ultrasound elastography with more moving parts - 06New "Tricorder" Technology Might be Able to "Hear" Tumors Growing - 360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:46:17] <exec> 08└─please note that I have zero medical training. my guess is that there's a difference between heating due to radiation and heating due to normal physiological processes. somewhat related: shouldn't tumors be hot spots anyway, since those cells are multiplying at a faster rate than normal? or maybe at...
[13:47:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 437 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:47:03] <exec> 08└─Install cameras, outsource watching the cams to India or mturk for "contractors" to watch them for pennies on the dollar of local security guard wages. Already being done, so I'm told. If you have sufficient internet upstream to give patrons internet access while they eat "food" then you can use the...
[13:47:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:47:09] <exec> 08└─Depends on your MOS. I have aheard of some who never leave the base and have lots of free time to dick around and yea thy do have laptops and consoles. Many of these were assigned to FOB's or forward operating bases. Those people were colloquially called fobbits.
[13:47:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:47:17] <exec> 08└─then it builds a ghetto of unwanted, unusable people who are left to live however they want (and one doesn't need to think for more than 30 seconds to imagine how it will end up; hint: you'd need a wall.)
[13:47:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 569 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:47:27] <exec> 08└─Why do they think automating away the jobs of burger flippers is easy, but automating away the jobs of Wall Street Bankers who do nothing more than play with spreadsheets all day is impossible? Because it ain't. It's quite the opposite. I've done it. I once automated an entire division at the Northe...
[13:48:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So sick of smart TVs - 06Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:48:21] <exec> 08└─...and at a reasonable price, with RCA inputs because some of us still have good equipment that doesn't do HDMIxyz... now get off my digital lawn! :-)
[13:48:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:So sick of smart TVs - 06Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - 1185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:48:23] <exec> 08└─Isn't that what a smart TV is? My MiL bought a smart TV about 2 or 3 years ago, comically she doesn't even have internet, or even a "deal" with a neighbor, but it was the usual "Oh I like the color of the bezel vs my interior decorating so I'll buy that one" and whatever that one has is what she got...
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[13:49:43] <exec> 08└─Just give me the cert pack and let me install it myself. Why the hell is that too much to ask for? I can be trusted to run a server but not to install my own certs? FAIL...
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[14:45:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03snick [1408] (Score:2) 02Re:Why they didn't catch on.... cost - 06What Happened to Passenger Hovercraft? - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:38] <exec> 08└─I took the hovercraft across the channel years ago. It was the only time in my life I was seasick (airsick? hoversick? ... whatever) The cabin did seem more like you were on a a commercial flight than on a boat trip.
[14:45:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03CowMan [2314] (Score:1) 02use cases - 06What Happened to Passenger Hovercraft? - 1077 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:45:40] <exec> 08└─Hydrofoils are niche vessels, they require expertise and testing to get right and are only really suitable where high speed trumps almost all other considerations. Hydrocraft are similar, their biggest advantage is the ability to go over land, limited ice, etc., and at high speeds.. but are squirrel...
[14:45:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02moving air - 06What Happened to Passenger Hovercraft? - 1139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:45:42] <exec> 08└─Non engineers always dramatically underestimate how much it costs (both financial and energy) to move large amounts of air. Always, across all fields. So "float off the surface using a big fan" is always going to sound cheap and simple and reasonable to non engineers while the engineers all WTF righ...
[14:45:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03snick [1408] (Score:2) 02Re:moving air - 06What Happened to Passenger Hovercraft? - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:44] <exec> 08└─... eating like one seagull per trip which ends up being non-trivial expense,
[14:45:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Obvious - 06What the Dust in Your House Says About You - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:56] <exec> 08└─Not so fast there Sherlock. If you live or was raised in a sterile environment, you don't build up immunities and will be more susceptible to allergies and sickness in your lifetime.
[14:46:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03jbWolf [2774] (Score:2) 02/dev/random VS /dev/urandom - 06First Linux Ransomware Program Cracked, for Now - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:12] <exec> 08└─Thanks! I was wondering how to fix my problem! :P Now that I've wasted everyone's time with my previous paragraph, I'll leave something more serious here: This [2uo.de] is an interesting argument to use /dev/urandom for cryptography. I don't know anything in depth about the subject matter, but I tho...
[14:46:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm from the Union, and I'm here to help - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 966 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:39] <exec> 08└─That's because they treat their employees inhumanely and want them to act like predictable robots saying the same stuff to produce a commodity product. Its a hell of an awful way for a human to live. So replacing them with an app or a robot won't change your interaction, at least from the MBA perspe...
[14:46:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aristarchus [2645] 02Re:I'm from the Union, and I'm here to help - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 85 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:44] <exec> 08└─Someone told me that's a communist front. I haven't checked it out for myself. Hmmm -
[14:47:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Hundreds, nationwide, eh? - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:01] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately the PR war on Unions was so successful it has become second nature for almost all americans to consider them evil and have mumbling about mafioso as a reflexive response.
[14:47:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:19] <exec> 08└─Its an interesting generation gap. A quarter century ago I was a REMF. In the olden days there WAS a rear echelon, you see, whereas now a days everyone is an IED or suicide bomber target, so the RE part of REMF no longer means anything. Ironic today is veterans day, I was talking to a MUCH younger v...
[14:47:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03aclarke [2049] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 3955 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:26] <exec> 08└─There are different types of intelligence. Have you ever tried welding? Are you any good at it? "Skilled trades" are called "skilled" because they require ... skill. Welding isn't just moving a couple things across some metal. Here in Canada to get your tickets as a welder you actually have to go to...
[14:47:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 3000 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:33] <exec> 08└─With all due respect to you and AC I think what AC might have been getting at is there is a lot of Orwellian doublespeak and they're not "trying to live" they are "actually living" off minimum wage and its not "off minimum wage" but "off minimum wage and a ton of govt benefits like EBT etc". So the...
[14:47:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 842 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:43] <exec> 08└─Like this [businessinsider.com] one? Sounds like we'd get better burgers, and maybe could finally stop putting people to work in those godawful environments in the first place. We really need to get past this idea that automating away work is a bad idea, and move onto figuring out how to distribute...
[14:49:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jtmach [1481] (Score:1) 02Re:translation - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:49:01] <exec> 08└─You just made the list, buddy. Also, I don't like no one touching my stuff. So just keep your meathooks off. If I catch any of you guys in my stuff, I'll kill you. And I don't like nobody touching me. Any of you homos touch me, and I'll kill you.
[14:49:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:2) 02Re:Great Idea - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:49:10] <exec> 08└─Excellent! I love being the asshole.
[14:49:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03snick [1408] (Score:2) 02Re:TV could be a problem - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:49:20] <exec> 08└─Do millennials even watch TV? Most I know stream video on their laptops/tablets and don't bother with the big box in the living room. I would think that a TV in a shared space would mostly be used for sports.
[14:49:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:https everything - 06Let's Encrypt Gets Automation - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:49:52] <exec> 08└─Even better, thanks for the correction.
[14:52:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"plug me in scotty" - 06Germany to Get 33% of its Electricity From Renewables This Year - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:52:57] <exec> 08└─Tera, not Terra. It's not related to earth (Latin terra) but to monster (Greek teras).
[14:52:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"plug me in scotty" - 06Germany to Get 33% of its Electricity From Renewables This Year - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:52:58] <exec> 08└─A (non-leap) year has 365 days, with 24 hours per day. That is, a year has 8760 hours. 687 TWh/year are therefore 687/8760 TW, or 78.4 GW. While it indeed looks a bit large (it's the power of about 100 nuclear power plants), it's negligible compared to the total power the sun delivers to earth.
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[15:45:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02meh - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:19] <exec> 08└─I preferred Jon Gnagy. Back when "hipster" was a cool term. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[15:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Missed opportunity - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:21] <exec> 08└─Life is full of happy accidents
[15:45:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Terrible for streaming - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:22] <exec> 08└─want to celebrate with a familiar crowd
[15:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Terrible for streaming - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:24] <exec> 08└─Years ago I read that for a typical episode Bob would make three paintings, all at different degrees of completion. That way they could shoot the episode in a reasonable amount of time.
[15:45:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Terrible for streaming - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:26] <exec> 08└─Yes I can personally verify by direct observation that the numerous carpentry / woodwork shows explicitly use that strategy. Pretty much all of them.
[15:45:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score:2) 02Re:Terrible for streaming - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:27] <exec> 08└─Giada (and everyone else cooking on TV) also has an army of kitchen minions doing all the un-sexy chopping and measuring, setting out all the pre-cut pre-measured ingredients beside the right pan and the right spoon, and washing the dishes afterward. Yeah, anyone could cook that dish in 30 minutes -...
[15:45:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03donkeyhotay [2540] (Score:1) 02Re:Terrible for streaming - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 956 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:29] <exec> 08└─I'm with you on the woodworking and car repair shows. I absolutely hate and despise Bob Vila, for example. Every project he worked on went smoothly and was accomplished in a reasonable amount of time. I remember yelling at the TV, "Yeah, why don't you come to MY old house and do that, asshole!" I le...
[15:45:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What's Twitch? - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:31] <exec> 08└─Is this yet another Snapchat, etc. that I can happily ignore?
[15:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What's Twitch? - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:33] <exec> 08└─I once knew three people: One who was a cop in active duty, one who was a cop in the past but left that line of work, and one who never was a cop. All three of those people are dead.
[15:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What's Twitch? - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:35] <exec> 08└─I couldn't understand a single sentence in TFS.
[15:45:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Ron Popeil - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:36] <exec> 08└─Gotta have Ron in the viewing mix, pitching rotisserie chicken ovens and stuff like that.
[15:45:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02Would be better Wednesday Night - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:38] <exec> 08└─I got my sister a season of Bob Ross, as she paints as a hobby. However, she does not typically watch it for the technique. As she finishes her PHD, apparently watching Bob after a long day is one of the best ways to unwind. I typically need that the worst on Wednesday nights.
[15:45:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score:3, Informative) 02bob ross would torrent this - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 530 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:40] <exec> 08└─Amazingly, a website that simply shares links to videos and streams, a website which could be 100% functional with XHTML+CSS, is blank without javascript. Here's the list of domains that load javascript when you visit http://www.twitch.tv [twitch.tv] facebook.comscorecardsearch.comkrxd.netm...
[15:45:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Another CRAP post - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:41] <exec> 08└─I don't know what this twitch thing is, or who bob ross is, and that's ok, but reading TFS still doesn't give any clue about them. Another CRAP post. Maybe there is a reason why SN attracts so few comments.
[15:45:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:I must have some problem.. - 06A Different Kind of Wearable Technology: MIT's LineFORM - 1253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:52] <exec> 08└─An immediate reaction of violence is disturbing, and probably warrants some investigation. Seeing the backlash that Glass got though, I don't think you're alone, though I think the "panopticon fear" is how that was justified, as if we're not approaching that without some dude wearing half a smartpho...
[15:45:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02I can see it now - 06A Different Kind of Wearable Technology: MIT's LineFORM - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:53] <exec> 08└─"Mr. Smith, why is the front of your pants bulging?"
[15:45:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Haptics - 06A Different Kind of Wearable Technology: MIT's LineFORM - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:55] <exec> 08└─I did an entrepreneur course with some guys working on haptic feedback gloves a while back. They were hoping to use it for sports to help you practice your kata or backswing or whatever. This looks like a progression of that idea and it could be quite useful in that field alone. Want to learn how to...
[15:45:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02What the fuck.... - 06A Different Kind of Wearable Technology: MIT's LineFORM - 953 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:57] <exec> 08└─"Lines have several interesting characteristics from the perspective of interaction design: abstractness of data representation; a variety of inherent interactions / affordances; and constraints as boundaries or borderlines." ... did any of that bullcrap mean? Lines have no more abstract a data repr...
[15:46:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02hydrofoils - 06What Happened to Passenger Hovercraft? - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:46:09] <exec> 08└─I've taken the Beetle [jrbeetle.co.jp] from Pusan to Fukuoka a couple times, and it's awesome. It's smooth and it takes about 3 hours. I've done the same trip via regular ferry and it takes overnight and you get pretty seasick. You could well imagine something like it working well between Miami and...
[15:46:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:moving air - 06What Happened to Passenger Hovercraft? - 909 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:46:12] <exec> 08└─Its the shock to the axle and the geartrain (assuming a gas turbine) and the individual fan vanes themselves. Also the eco hippies are going to whine about seagulls being an endangered species. And mothers of traumatized passenger kids watching seagulls get vaporized. Oh I assure you, I can design a...
[15:46:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:moving air - 06What Happened to Passenger Hovercraft? - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:46:14] <exec> 08└─Then why is it that 747s have won over zeppelins? It's much cheaper to generate lift by displacing air than moving air, so by your logic we ought to all be flying around in Hindenburgs.
[15:46:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What happened to the horse and carriage? - 06What Happened to Passenger Hovercraft? - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:16] <exec> 08└─Why did they not catch on? There were hovercrafts operating on the English channel for about 30 years, but newer technology displaced that. Similarly, if you want to experience hydrofoil travel, take one from Macau to Hong Kong before the long bridge is finished.
[15:46:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03bart9h [767] (Score:4, Funny) 02betteridge - 06What Happened to Passenger Hovercraft? - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:17] <exec> 08└─Q: What happened to the passenger hovercraft? A: No.
[15:46:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02This hovercraft documentary explains why - 06What Happened to Passenger Hovercraft? - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:19] <exec> 08└─Hovercrafts are not exactly optimal machines: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[15:46:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:This hovercraft documentary explains why - 06What Happened to Passenger Hovercraft? - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:46:21] <exec> 08└─No kidding! I had to do that San Andreas mission about 30 times because the damn hovercraft couldn't make that one turn.
[15:46:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03GlennC [3656] (Score:3, Funny) 02Isn't it obvious? - 06What Happened to Passenger Hovercraft? - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:23] <exec> 08└─The hovercraft were full of eels! http://tvtropes.org [tvtropes.org]
[15:46:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:RDU Area - 06What the Dust in Your House Says About You - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:46:33] <exec> 08└─Chill with the moderation. Hog farming is big there, and it affects the surrounding environ pretty heavily.
[15:46:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Obvious - 06What the Dust in Your House Says About You - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:46:36] <exec> 08└─TFA says they sampled from door frames, which nobody ever cleans. Me, whenever I think about dusting I think about that chapter in Ray Bradbury's Martian Chronicles where the robotic mice clean up the house.
[15:46:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Shocking! - 06What the Dust in Your House Says About You - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:38] <exec> 08└─In a troubling discovery, Dunn and his colleagues learned that, from a microbiological perspective, toilet seats and pillowcases look strikingly similar.
[15:47:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm from the Union, and I'm here to help - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:24] <exec> 08└─I agree - CEO's are overpaid, astronomically. That needs to be curbed. I wasn't expecting "sympathy" for the corporations, I was just pointing out the facts of life. Mickey D has gotten used to exploiting people at a certain cost, and if those costs go up, Mickey is going to look harder at automatio...
[15:47:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm from the Union, and I'm here to help - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 617 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:28] <exec> 08└─"Pounding nails and using a cut-off saw is that much more skilled than flipping burgers and practicing proper food hygiene? Come back to talk to us when you are a master carpenter, or a master chef, or, of course, a master baiter, you troller! Had me going! Thought it actually was a minnow!" You are...
[15:48:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:48:15] <exec> 08└─So the hard core marxists... want... [stuff completely at odds with what they really want]
[15:48:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 436 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:48:16] <exec> 08└─I think you're confusing what they want with weird corporate propaganda. If .com owns .gov, you're going to hear really weird nonsensical stuff from the two parties in .gov. My stuff makes sense, what the "lets boost quarterly profits" crowd says the politicians want is likely a pipe dream in the se...
[15:48:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:48:18] <exec> 08└─My stuff makes sense
[15:48:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:48:28] <exec> 08└─We really need to get past this idea that automating away work is a bad idea, and move onto figuring out how to distribute the little work and more resources there are left in a remotely fair and social system.
[15:48:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonymousCowardNoMore [5416] (Score:2) 02Re:MY meat marvel is between my legs. - 06Carbon Nanotubes in a Race Against Time to Replace Silicon - 553 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:48:41] <exec> 08└─Resistance is still needed and in any case the computer must at least dissipate the amount of heat mandated by quantum mechanics to flip a certain number of bits. (Very) high-temperature superconductors would certainly help if they could be used in chips. I can't help but wonder how feasible it is t...
[15:48:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03VanessaE [3396] (Score:2) 02Re:Although? - 06Carbon Nanotubes in a Race Against Time to Replace Silicon - 607 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:48:49] <exec> 08└─Pretty much all of us here know this, but to the average person, if you say "carbon", they'll think of coal, coal ash, or some generic carbon-dioxide-related "waste" (i.e. carbon credits and whatever else the politicians are pushing), or maybe diamonds. You might get some people to think of graphite...
[15:50:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03tempest [3050] (Score:2) 02Re:Manual install please! - 06Let's Encrypt Gets Automation - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:50:43] <exec> 08└─If you want to apply for a free certificate you install yourself, StartSSL already offers them.
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[16:45:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Missed opportunity - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:27] <exec> 08└─Life is a maze of happy little accidents, all alike.
[16:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Terrible for streaming - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:33] <exec> 08└─doing all the un-sexy
[16:45:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Terrible for streaming - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 511 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:34] <exec> 08└─That type of cooking is https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] I use it all the time. Yeah cooking is actually the *smallest* part of cooking. You are usually done in 5-10 mins tops with actual cooking. Most of cooking is prep. 1-2 hours prep 10 mins of cooking. Much like sex ;)...
[16:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Terrible for streaming - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:37] <exec> 08└─Every project he worked on went smoothly and was accomplished in a reasonable amount of time.
[16:45:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Terrible for streaming - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:39] <exec> 08└─There was a bit of a missed opportunity in the shows where everything goes right. From what I've seen, reality TV is people dealing with things always going wrong. (If I still had cable), I'd be much more interested in This Old House where they find some really weird problem they have to deal with,...
[16:45:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Terrible for streaming - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:40] <exec> 08└─Does anyone actually paint along with Bob?
[16:45:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:4, Touché) 02Re:Terrible for streaming - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:42] <exec> 08└─> Giada ... wears hottie date night stuff which is highly distracting ... I'll come out of the kitchen with stuff all over my shirt Do it in the bathroom buddy, that's just unsanitary.
[16:45:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ron Popeil - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:45] <exec> 08└─Or spray painting Poco's bald spot.
[16:45:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Would be better Wednesday Night - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:47] <exec> 08└─Yep. His old soft-spoken, hippy ass is quite relaxing. I can sit and watch him paint happy little trees for quite a while and I haven't even done any drugs since I was a minor. He's also a good reminder that not all hippies have to be douchebags, that's a personal choice.
[16:45:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Another CRAP post - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:50] <exec> 08└─Having to explain what Twitch is in a tech news post, is close to having to explain what YouTube is. Sometimes you're just missing some otherwise common knowledge and you should shut up and wiki it.
[16:45:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Another CRAP post - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:52] <exec> 08└─What is YouTube? Is it somehow related to the London Underground?
[16:45:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Another CRAP post - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:54] <exec> 08└─"Having to explain Twitch" and "tech post" are mutually exclusive. Being on a "tech forum" doesn't also mean you jump from one "next big thing" to another.
[16:45:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Another CRAP post - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 594 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:55] <exec> 08└─This is the eleventh twitch article on SN, at some point you can't pretend to be all "what is this linux thing I am hearing about". As much as it pains me to write this: Its current year, I can't even. Bob Ross is a fair complaint because you have to be of a certain age who watched PBS for fun sever...
[16:46:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Spamalope [5233] (Score:1) 02Re:I can see it now - 06A Different Kind of Wearable Technology: MIT's LineFORM - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:46:11] <exec> 08└─It certainly looks like an idea that would soon be rule 34 material.
[16:46:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:What the fuck.... - 06A Different Kind of Wearable Technology: MIT's LineFORM - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:46:14] <exec> 08└─Ok, I'm glad I'm not the only one who has no idea what's going on here. I mean, it's neat and all. On receiving the notification, the user then unfurls it, and it contracts into a rectangular prism. After he taps away on an imaginary display, it shape-shifts into an old-timey telephone.
[16:46:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Re:What the fuck.... - 06A Different Kind of Wearable Technology: MIT's LineFORM - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:46:16] <exec> 08└─Remember the old CEO/Manager-type bullshit bingo? It exists for designers too, apparently: http://www.bullshitbingo.net [bullshitbingo.net]
[16:46:24] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Unixnut [5779] 02Why they didn't catch on.... cost - 06What Happened to Passenger Hovercraft? - 1247 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:46:25] <exec> 08└─They didn't catch on because they were more expensive than ferries, and could carry less cargo. The majority of people, when given a choice, went for the cheaper option. For example, the English channel was served for years by a ferry company called Hoverspeed ( https://en.wikipedia.org
[16:46:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:moving air - 06What Happened to Passenger Hovercraft? - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:46:36] <exec> 08└─> is going to make SUVs and bizjets look like greenwashing products. Well, there's your market! So, which Texan star or billionaire are we going to offer the blingest hovercraft in history to, in order to jumpstart interest? "Bubba says F-You to Obama and the EPA with a hovercraft from RollingCoalIs...
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[16:46:37] <exec> 08└─It is like the IoT home systems. Sure they are cool and are all wizzy. But simplicity, ease of use, and cost rule the day. Sure I could hook every single one of my lights in my house to a central computer. It looks cool and is cool. But thats about it. At the end of the day it still just lights up m...
[16:46:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:moving air - 06What Happened to Passenger Hovercraft? - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:46:39] <exec> 08└─Hey VLM, that whooshing noise you just heard wasn't the sound of a hovercraft.
[16:46:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:moving air - 06What Happened to Passenger Hovercraft? - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:46:41] <exec> 08└─It's much cheaper to generate lift by displacing air than moving air
[16:47:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Missing info - 06First Linux Ransomware Program Cracked, for Now - 864 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:47:18] <exec> 08└─Well, there is still the need to crack AES, but you only need to brute-force over a *massively* reduced keyspace. It looked like about ~40000 keys, basically a second-granularity timestamp for a span of half a day before the first noted encryption time. It's odd, the PRNG used isn't the standard GCC...
[16:47:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Tork [3914] 02Re:I'm from the Union, and I'm here to help - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 82 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:47:48] <exec> 08└─WTF makes you think some kid bagging up hamburgers and fries should get that much?
[16:47:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm from the Union, and I'm here to help - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:47:56] <exec> 08└─He's assuming minimum wage caused inflation but ignored the fact that it happened right around the time wives started joining the workforce. Suddenly lots of households became two-income and not long after the price of houses shot upwards.
[16:48:12] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 115 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:48:13] <exec> 08└─Fuck that. If an utterly unskilled teenager can do your job with little to no training, you should be paid like it.
[16:48:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:48:36] <exec> 08└─Have you ever tried welding? Are you any good at it?
[16:49:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:MY meat marvel is between my legs. - 06Carbon Nanotubes in a Race Against Time to Replace Silicon - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:49:08] <exec> 08└─Actually, I believe IBM has prototypes of micro-channels through the wafer for liquid cooling. If you can cool the chips horizontally, then you can stack them with TSVs and get significant "3D" (quotes because each layer is still flat) benefits.
[16:50:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Great Idea - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:50:28] <exec> 08└─Isn't that pretty much the premise of The Human Centipede?
[16:50:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:TV could be a problem - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:50:38] <exec> 08└─Do millennials even watch TV?
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[17:45:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Simple solution - 06Fantasy Sports Ordered to Stop Taking Bets in New York State - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:19] <exec> 08└─If they (the punters) love playing it, they'll love playing it without the financial reward if they win. Without the financial (or any) reward, it's no longer gambling. As you were, just no payouts to NY residents. However, if the company knowingly presented it to the punters as something from which...
[17:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score:2) 02Re:Simple solution - 06Fantasy Sports Ordered to Stop Taking Bets in New York State - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:21] <exec> 08└─What? Punters don't count for anything in these games and certainly aren't "money makers". I guess they could score a few points if they're also the field goal kicker, but that's fairly rare these days.
[17:45:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02games of skill - 06Fantasy Sports Ordered to Stop Taking Bets in New York State - 700 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:22] <exec> 08└─It would be skill If: (1) The takeout was a minimal percentage (e.g. 5%). (2) Odds were determined by the distribution of bets (like in the ponies). Instead at these fantasy team betting services, the values of players are estimated by house...which essentially helps the poorly skilled bettor but hu...
[17:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02dontation link - 06Fantasy Sports Ordered to Stop Taking Bets in New York State - 1016 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:24] <exec> 08└─Its a protection money shakedown. Obviously the state attorney general knows what he's arguing is explicitly illegal under federal law. If you check the following link http://ballotpedia.org [ballotpedia.org] You'll note a disturbing absence of donations from thos...
[17:45:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I'm just sick of seeing the commercials... - 06Fantasy Sports Ordered to Stop Taking Bets in New York State - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:26] <exec> 08└─and all the money taxpayers are paying trying to keep the loser chargers in San Diego. Good riddance chargers, go lose in LA.
[17:45:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Interstate commerce? - 06Fantasy Sports Ordered to Stop Taking Bets in New York State - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:27] <exec> 08└─How is their business not Interstate Commerce and therefore the province of the Federal government to regulate? Doing some quick googling, it appears the courts have indulged, once again, in doublethink to allow states to regulate Internet gambling in limited circumstances. It appears that the Inter...
[17:45:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02There's money to be made... - 06Fantasy Sports Ordered to Stop Taking Bets in New York State - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:29] <exec> 08└─> While both companies had allowed employees to place bets on the others site, they have since banned such practices. Do you hear that distant sound? That's lawyers fighting the be the first one to land that slam-dunk Corp-breaches-First case. Probably a bigger threat to those companies than any AG....
[17:46:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:I can see it now - 06A Different Kind of Wearable Technology: MIT's LineFORM - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:46:21] <exec> 08└─I think you're about 40 or 50 years too late on that one.
[17:46:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:What the fuck.... - 06A Different Kind of Wearable Technology: MIT's LineFORM - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:46:26] <exec> 08└─"Lines have several interesting characteristics from the perspective of interaction design: abstractness of data representation; a variety of inherent interactions / affordances; and constraints as boundaries or borderlines."
[17:46:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score:2) 02Re:What the fuck.... - 06A Different Kind of Wearable Technology: MIT's LineFORM - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:46:28] <exec> 08└─All that it means is that they didn't want to call it a snake, because snakes are scary.
[17:46:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02MS Research Did It Better Without Shape Shifting - 06A Different Kind of Wearable Technology: MIT's LineFORM - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:46:30] <exec> 08└─Microsoft Research had a paper on a string based UI. The string could detect where you touched it or how it was twisted or curved. Sadly the tech is probably buried in patents and MS Research is where cool things die. My search skills are too poor to sift through all the String API stuff that come u...
[17:46:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:moving air - 06What Happened to Passenger Hovercraft? - 470 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:46:51] <exec> 08└─Yeah yeah I know but there's just so many ways the task is incredibly expensive I couldn't resist the chance to mention the bird kill problem and the difficulty of making turbines that eat large birds and keep running (like jet aircraft engines, well, at least sometimes) and chipper shredder analogi...
[17:47:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Obvious - 06What the Dust in Your House Says About You - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:14] <exec> 08└─If you think an environment gets sterile by removing the dust, think again.
[17:47:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03hankwang [100] (Score:2) 02Re:Shocking! - 06What the Dust in Your House Says About You - 486 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:17] <exec> 08└─"There is no difference between the skin on your glutes (the part that touches the seat) and skin on your face," Lips and eyes are on my face and they're regularly in contact with the pillow. I would say they're rather different from the skin on my butt. I'm actually surprised that pillowcases don't...
[17:47:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Gravis [4596] 02typical! - 06First Linux Ransomware Program Cracked, for Now - 162 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:47:26] <exec> 08└─see, this is exactly why close source software is no good. if the ransomware were open source we could fix it so that it would securely hold our files hostage. ;)
[17:48:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm from the Union, and I'm here to help - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 1454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:48:08] <exec> 08└─Management uses change and events as pretext for their agendas, which, sadly, are them first. They know very well that they are going to automate more and employ less, regardless. Humans cannot compete with machines at simple, repetitive, automatable tasks. Lowering the minimum wage will not save an...
[17:49:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:49:04] <exec> 08└─To rehash, hard core Marxists want lower minimum wage because it decreases the power of labor. No, actually they want the other thing.
[17:49:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03bd [2773] (Score:2) 02Re:Wrong question - 06Carbon Nanotubes in a Race Against Time to Replace Silicon - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:49:30] <exec> 08└─Spin polarisation dephases even more quickly if you are significantly above 0 K. That is pretty much the fundamental problem of spintronics.
[17:50:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Easy Solution - 06Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - 519 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:50:14] <exec> 08└─Don't Buy A "Smart" Television. The technology in your "Smart TV" will be outdated, before your Television is no longer of use. I have a 32" Sceptre I bought about 10 years ago. Other than the 1 stuck pixel in the center of the screen that it's had since I bought it, it functions perfectly. Sad thin...
[17:51:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02what is the relevance of the link? - 06Dorms for Grownups: A Solution for Lonely Millennials? - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:51:16] <exec> 08└─Looks irrelevant
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[18:45:17] <exec> 08└─Sry ... but "Kickstarter" is like "made in U.S.A". i haven't seen either in years and they get wayyyy t0o much publicity. note: no ,i don't crawl into my computer every day to see the "made in malasia" brain enabling this post ^_^
[18:45:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Interstate commerce? - 06Fantasy Sports Ordered to Stop Taking Bets in New York State - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:31] <exec> 08└─The Interstate Commerce clause was never intended to apply to everything in existence in the first place. Yeah, the courts are hypocritical. The federal government has no constitutional authority to ban drugs and the commerce clause does not change that.
[18:45:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02If the games are more luck than skill - 06Fantasy Sports Ordered to Stop Taking Bets in New York State - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:33] <exec> 08└─Then why do the top 1 percent of gamblers collect most of the winnings? Seems like the arguments are self-contradictory.
[18:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If the games are more luck than skill - 06Fantasy Sports Ordered to Stop Taking Bets in New York State - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:35] <exec> 08└─What about any sport or skill game that has a tournament with one final winner? A rock paper scissors tournament with 100 people means only the top 1 percent wins.
[18:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Police State USA - 06Fantasy Sports Ordered to Stop Taking Bets in New York State - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:37] <exec> 08└─What justifies using armed agents of the state to interfere with voluntary transactions between free men?
[18:45:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Gambling is bad kids... - 06Fantasy Sports Ordered to Stop Taking Bets in New York State - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:38] <exec> 08└─Unless it's the lottery, then it's cool... I don't think they're too concerned about the fleecing of sports fans, but rather the competition. Cops issuing fines for minor offenses such as jaywalking is more of a fleecing than this.
[18:45:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Terrible for streaming - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:57] <exec> 08└─That is why I liked the older "this old house" series. Then everyone went with 'it must be dramatic and someone MUST cry'. They would spend like a whole season on one or two houses. These houses were usually in pretty rough shape. They would explain what the old code was why it was done the way it w...
[18:46:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Terrible for streaming - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 394 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:00] <exec> 08└─where you can hit pause any time you want or rewind and watch his technique 5 times till you "get" it. Can you not do that on Twitch TV? (Honesty, I don't know anything about this service) That's definitely how I played along as a kid... Veering off-topic a bit: Does anyone remember that k...
[18:46:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Another CRAP post - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:14] <exec> 08└─My dad used to watch Bob all the time, and turned out some pretty good paintings (has even sold some). I like Bob 'cause he's like watching a girl stripping in slooooooow motion (or for the old people, viewing porn over slow dialup): at first there's nothing much to see, but eventually: OMG! And how...
[18:46:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Another CRAP post - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:15] <exec> 08└─He was a kitschy TV personality from the '70s. Taught painting lessons using a technique called wet-on-wet, where the surface of the canvas is wetted down beforehand. To keep everyone's spirits up, he continually said things like "Let's have a happy cloud over here."
[18:46:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03bart9h [767] (Score:2) 02Re:I must have some problem.. - 06A Different Kind of Wearable Technology: MIT's LineFORM - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:34] <exec> 08└─I understand your point, but my reaction is not against the owner. It's just that this hacking possibility became obvious to me.
[18:46:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:What the fuck.... - 06A Different Kind of Wearable Technology: MIT's LineFORM - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:43] <exec> 08└─Yeah, now explain to me why all the recent "self-forming" robots have been based on a flat sheet, and using principles of origami. That's why these guys are obsessed with 1D designs, because somebody already published 2D ones.
[18:46:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:What the fuck.... - 06A Different Kind of Wearable Technology: MIT's LineFORM - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:45] <exec> 08└─That's what the second part of the summary, or the pretty pictures/video in TFAs are for.
[18:47:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03orasio [5302] (Score:1) 02Re:Case study - 06What Happened to Passenger Hovercraft? - 591 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:00] <exec> 08└─Ferries got faster. The fastest Montevideo-Buenos Aires ferry takes just above two hours to make 200km. It has a top speed of 56 knots, north of 100kph http://www.safety4sea.com [safety4sea.com] Also, it's just a regular ship, no fancy tech. It can move 900...
[18:47:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:moving air - 06What Happened to Passenger Hovercraft? - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:11] <exec> 08└─Just make sure to thaw them first.
[18:49:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Wrong question - 06Carbon Nanotubes in a Race Against Time to Replace Silicon - 394 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:49:43] <exec> 08└─>You would think one good knock would destroy them. Not really - they're moderately flexible, and held together by the strongest atomic bonds known to man. (graphene has an ultimate tensile strength of 130,000MPa, compared to 2,000-2,600MPa for steel.) Plus, not much delivers a focused knock at that...
[18:51:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:sudo free version... - 06Let's Encrypt Gets Automation - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:51:50] <exec> 08└─And that process contains a call to subprocess.Popen(). Which means that other shit is being run as root, and this script is "protecting" you from having to know that. Nice.
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[19:45:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:No-go IRC kick - 06 You Don't Have to Be a Scientist to Own a Proper EEG Headset - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:21] <exec> 08└─So if it had said "crowdfunding" instead of "Kickstarter", you would have been fine with it? Crowdfunding is not like "made in USA".
[19:45:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Read-only? - 06 You Don't Have to Be a Scientist to Own a Proper EEG Headset - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:22] <exec> 08└─It says it uses dry electrodes. That's good. But is it another lame read-only set?
[19:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Read-only? - 06 You Don't Have to Be a Scientist to Own a Proper EEG Headset - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:24] <exec> 08└─Yes. On the plus side, it doesn't involve amateur invasive brain surgery.
[19:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Simple solution - 06Fantasy Sports Ordered to Stop Taking Bets in New York State - 351 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:35] <exec> 08└─Don't get me started on how ridiculous it is that a "team" is now an offense squad, a defense squad, special-play people, and needs the differentiate between who kicks a ball from the ground and from their own hands... No wonder every team always has an asshole who beats his girl, isn't that statist...
[19:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score:2) 02Re:Simple solution - 06Fantasy Sports Ordered to Stop Taking Bets in New York State - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:37] <exec> 08└─See the problem is that with a smaller roster you're limited in depth in case of injuries, so they increased the roster size. Then with a bigger roster, teams figured out that they could improve by having more specialized position players. But then there was limited depth at those positions, so they...
[19:45:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Simple solution - 06Fantasy Sports Ordered to Stop Taking Bets in New York State - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:39] <exec> 08└─What? Punters don't count for anything in these games and certainly aren't "money makers". I guess they could score a few points if they're also the field goal kicker, but that's fairly rare these days.
[19:45:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score:2) 02Re:Simple solution - 06Fantasy Sports Ordered to Stop Taking Bets in New York State - 721 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:41] <exec> 08└─Or, it may possibly be that I was gently poking fun at someone for using British slang terminology on a US based website while discussing an article about banning gambling at sites that are dedicated to American Football (a sport in which the terminology in question refers to a specific position on...
[19:45:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Re:games of skill - 06Fantasy Sports Ordered to Stop Taking Bets in New York State - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:42] <exec> 08└─It would be skill If: (1) The takeout was a minimal percentage (e.g. 5%). (2) Odds were determined by the distribution of bets (like in the ponies).
[19:45:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:dontation link - 06Fantasy Sports Ordered to Stop Taking Bets in New York State - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:44] <exec> 08└─Is this really a "game of skill"? https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org]
[19:45:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Dear HughPickens - 06Fantasy Sports Ordered to Stop Taking Bets in New York State - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:51] <exec> 08└─Would you please just stay on the green site? Thanks.
[19:46:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Terrible for streaming - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:46:08] <exec> 08└─Mise en place helps but TV magic is necessary to fit an hour of baking into a 22 minute show.
[19:46:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03goodie [1877] (Score:2) 02Re:Terrible for streaming - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 714 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:46:09] <exec> 08└─This is how restaurants work, or should work at least. Prep the food so that when the "coup de feu" comes, everything is ready and things can come out quick. Of course it requires very good skills and discipline to ensure the food stays safe. and this is why if your sushi is too quick to get to your...
[19:46:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Another CRAP post - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:46:31] <exec> 08└─Having 11 posts on SN makes some bullshit social crap (among the billion such idiocies) notable? GFO.
[19:46:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Michelle [4097] (Score:1) 02Bill Alexander was here - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 825 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:46:33] <exec> 08└─So my understanding (though I haven't dug into it much) is that a television painter named Bill Alexander (I used to watch his show as a kid) invented a paint medium which he called Magic White or something like that. It's basically white paint with more oil and a bit of mineral spirits or turpentin...
[19:46:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:I must have some problem.. - 06A Different Kind of Wearable Technology: MIT's LineFORM - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:46:53] <exec> 08└─Oh. I must have entirely misunderstood your intent.
[19:46:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:I must have some problem.. - 06A Different Kind of Wearable Technology: MIT's LineFORM - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:46:54] <exec> 08└─The tech seems fine. It's the buzzword-bingo summary that makes me want to put my fist through the monitor!
[19:47:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shocking! - 06What the Dust in Your House Says About You - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:47:57] <exec> 08└─I don't think they evaluated quantity, they merely contain similar proportions of the same kinds of bacteria. Which makes sense as since they come from the same place: skin.
[19:48:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm from the Union, and I'm here to help - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:45] <exec> 08└─I don't think you can replace the smoothie lady with an app.
[19:48:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm from the Union, and I'm here to help - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:51] <exec> 08└─The CEO of Target Canada did an EPIC FAIL, face palmed out of Canada and got $61 million U.S. for his troubles! Fail = $61 million. (Whereas for me, i'm sure Fail = fired). Things are WAY OUT OF WHACK... this is the kind of thing that makes the world a horrible place. Hard-working people with famili...
[19:48:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm from the Union, and I'm here to help - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:53] <exec> 08└─The CEO of Target Canada did an EPIC FAIL, face palmed out of Canada and got $61 million U.S. for his troubles!
[19:49:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Hundreds, nationwide, eh? - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:49:05] <exec> 08└─This did not come to America with the rise of "neocons" No, but it has been accelerating rapidly since then.
[19:49:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:49:16] <exec> 08└─Fuck that. If an utterly unskilled teenager can do your job with little to no training, you should be paid like it. There are plenty of teenagers out there who actually need to work for a living. If they are working full time they should be able to survive off it.
[19:49:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:49:17] <exec> 08└─Only if they offer enough in return. Everybody is entitled to life. Nobody is entitled to the means to support that life. For that you have to trade equal value.
[19:49:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 490 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:49:42] <exec> 08└─There are different types of intelligence. Have you ever tried welding? Are you any good at it? "Skilled trades" are called "skilled" because they require ... skill. Welding isn't just moving a couple things across some metal. Here in Canada to get your tickets as a welder you actually have to go to...
[19:49:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03mhajicek [51] 02Re:Don't matter much anyway - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 729 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:49:55] <exec> 08└─I went to two years of tech school for machining and it worked out fairly well for me. I would not encourage my sons to follow in my footsteps however. It's gotten so that unless you're one of the best you're treated only a little better than a fast food worker. And yes, automation is making fast in...
[19:50:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:MY meat marvel is between my legs. - 06Carbon Nanotubes in a Race Against Time to Replace Silicon - 1070 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:50:16] <exec> 08└─Well, high-temperature superconductors or thermally conductive semiconductors. That's one of the reason diamond-based semiconductors hold so much potential - diamond is an extremely good thermal conductor (about 3x better than copper), while also being an extremely good electrical insulator. Plus we...
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[20:45:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Funny) 023200 bits eh... - 06Let a Grandmaster of Memory Teach You Something You Will Never Forget - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:21] <exec> 08└─If anyone can create a virus that fits in 400bytes, this guy can be your delivery mechanism
[20:45:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:3200 bits eh... - 06Let a Grandmaster of Memory Teach You Something You Will Never Forget - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:22] <exec> 08└─According to the documentary [imdb.com], the virus will be "protected" by killing him right after he finishes reading it out.
[20:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:3200 bits eh... - 06Let a Grandmaster of Memory Teach You Something You Will Never Forget - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:24] <exec> 08└─32 bit virus: 10011100011010101 I bet they all start giggling
[20:45:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Memorizing strings of code? - 06Let a Grandmaster of Memory Teach You Something You Will Never Forget - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:25] <exec> 08└─Isn't that what we invented computers for?
[20:45:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03timbim [907] (Score:2) 02How many girls will be there? - 06Let a Grandmaster of Memory Teach You Something You Will Never Forget - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:27] <exec> 08└─asking for a friend.
[20:45:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How many girls will be there? - 06Let a Grandmaster of Memory Teach You Something You Will Never Forget - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:29] <exec> 08└─As many phone numbers as you can memorize from the phone book.
[20:45:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Forgot the subject? - 06Let a Grandmaster of Memory Teach You Something You Will Never Forget - 763 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:31] <exec> 08└─TFA never did get around to explaining how he remembered 2000 sequences of 0's and 1's. In fact TFA seemed pretty thin on details but long on fanciful suggestions. For him, in his brain, it all boils down to thinking of something as if it were something else: "Picture cytoplasm as ectoplasm from gho...
[20:45:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Of course - 06 You Don't Have to Be a Scientist to Own a Proper EEG Headset - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:41] <exec> 08└─Of course you don't have to be a scientist to own a proper EEG headset. There are lots of doctors who are not scientists and own one.
[20:45:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rich [945] (Score:2) 021-channel EEG on a budget - 06 You Don't Have to Be a Scientist to Own a Proper EEG Headset - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:43] <exec> 08└─Has anyone hacked the "Necomimi" yet? (http://www.necomimi.com/ [necomimi.com])
[20:45:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Simple solution - 06Fantasy Sports Ordered to Stop Taking Bets in New York State - 705 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:55] <exec> 08└─Or, it may possibly be that I was gently poking fun at someone for using British slang terminology on a US based website while discussing an article about banning gambling at sites that are dedicated to American Football (a sport in which the terminology in question refers to a specific position on...
[20:46:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Interstate commerce? - 06Fantasy Sports Ordered to Stop Taking Bets in New York State - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:03] <exec> 08└─How is their business not Interstate Commerce and therefore the province of the Federal government to regulate?
[20:46:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Police State USA - 06Fantasy Sports Ordered to Stop Taking Bets in New York State - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:09] <exec> 08└─How much for zee women and zee little girl? [youtube.com]
[20:46:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Police State USA - 06Fantasy Sports Ordered to Stop Taking Bets in New York State - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:11] <exec> 08└─The majority of free men condoning such action with their votes for the elected officials in charge of said agents. Next.
[20:46:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Terrible for streaming - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:31] <exec> 08└─I wouldn't eat anything from those sweaty foreheads dripping into the food.
[20:46:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Terrible for streaming - 06The Official Twitch Blog: Monday Night is Bob Ross Night - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:36] <exec> 08└─From what I've seen, reality TV is people dealing with things always going wrong.
[20:47:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03damnbunni [704] (Score:2) 02Re:moving air - 06What Happened to Passenger Hovercraft? - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:47:56] <exec> 08└─A Boeing 747-8 has a list price of $367.8 million. You can buy a new Zeppelin for about $21 million. That's what Goodyear is paying for their new Zeppelins; the Zeppelin NT is configured for 12-14 passengers and two pilots. A typical 'bizjet' like the Cessna Citation X runs about $20-$25 million new...
[20:48:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Obvious - 06What the Dust in Your House Says About You - 616 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:48:18] <exec> 08└─LMGTFY... Dust consists of particles in the atmosphere that come from various sources such as soil, dust lifted by weather (an aeolian process), volcanic eruptions, and pollution. Dust in homes, offices, and other human environments contains small amounts of plant pollen, human and animal hairs, tex...
[20:48:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geotti [1146] (Score:2) 02Re:Missing info - 06First Linux Ransomware Program Cracked, for Now - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:48:38] <exec> 08└─Right, they should have used https!
[20:49:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03soylentsandor [309] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm from the Union, and I'm here to help - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:49:13] <exec> 08└─Oh, and greater local spending power means more customers for these burger joints.
[20:49:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm from the Union, and I'm here to help - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 553 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:49:14] <exec> 08└─They think the price of hamburgers will suddenly rise, never mind that the price of Ford's cars didn't suddenly rise out of the reach of his employees. At the end of the day the Supply and Demand curve will even itself out, and maybe we will see an increase in price that rises faster than inflation....
[20:49:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm from the Union, and I'm here to help - 06U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:49:20] <exec> 08└─Wish i could face risk like that...
[20:50:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Although? - 06Carbon Nanotubes in a Race Against Time to Replace Silicon - 441 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:50:55] <exec> 08└─Pencil lead tends to have a lot of clay mixed in with the carbon. Possibly the 9s "pencils" are free of clay, but you'll only find those in art classes, and not in many of them. They are, however, used by some artists who do shaded pencil drawings and need a really dark black without switching to in...
[20:50:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03novak [4683] (Score:2) 02size or speed? - 06Carbon Nanotubes in a Race Against Time to Replace Silicon - 372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:50:56] <exec> 08└─I think one of the big things that carbon nanotubes offer might be increased performance not by fitting in more cores but by switching at higher frequencies. Sure, their actual performance in FLOP/watt might still be similar to 1nm silicon (or another, more likely 1nm semiconductor), but if they hav...
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