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[00:33:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:3, Funny) 02Highly-challenged Krauts... - 06Lower Austria Goes All-Renewable - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:28] <exec> 08└─Sure, it's easier to go all-renewable when you only need to put a bunch of Kangaroos on treadmills.
[00:33:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:0, Troll) 02Re:Highly-challenged Krauts... - 06Lower Austria Goes All-Renewable - 395 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:33:30] <exec> 08└─This is Austria, not Australia. And their accomplishments won't matter anyway, because the place will be overrun by filthy immigrant savages leaving a sea of reckless breeding, garbage, and violence in their wake. The technology will be destroyed and people will be once again living in caves and mud...
[00:33:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Highly-challenged Krauts... - 06Lower Austria Goes All-Renewable - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:33:32] <exec> 08└─The trolling of the troll! He called them Krauts in the title, which is also incorrect, but that's the point.
[00:33:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Highly-challenged Krauts... - 06Lower Austria Goes All-Renewable - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:33:34] <exec> 08└─lower australia is home to one of the world's largest known shallow deposits of brown coal in the world, as well as large natural gas reserves... no matter how much coin the greenies can scrounge there's no way lower australia will ever be powered by all renewable sources
[00:33:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Wow. Not. - 06Lower Austria Goes All-Renewable - 450 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:35] <exec> 08└─Oh wow, 100% renewable! Easy enough to pull off if you apparently have a nice source of hydroelectric power and only need to power for 1.6 million people. That isn't even a real city. Have a look at a few of America's big hydro projects for comparison. Only problem is hydro isn't green anymore. Gue...
[00:33:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:"Climate Change" - 06NY Attorney General Investigating ExxonMobil Over "Climate Change Lies" - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:33:45] <exec> 08└─terk er gu!
[00:33:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Re:"Climate Change" - 06NY Attorney General Investigating ExxonMobil Over "Climate Change Lies" - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:33:48] <exec> 08└─I wonder what it will be next?
[00:33:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:cigarettes cause cancer? - 06NY Attorney General Investigating ExxonMobil Over "Climate Change Lies" - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:33:53] <exec> 08└─Cell division causes cancer. Also, quitting smoking may cause cancer in the first few years since cancer rates are reported rise.[1] The only paper they look at including data in the first year after smoking reports a 20x increase. Most report around 1.5-2x, but bin the first few years (eg 1-4 years...
[00:33:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 0270s Climate Excitement Was on Global Cooling - 06NY Attorney General Investigating ExxonMobil Over "Climate Change Lies" - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:55] <exec> 08└─Seems to me that back then the environmental problem de jour was global cooling, not global warming. So, how does this correlate to today's witch hunt?
[00:33:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grayswan [2602] (Score:1) 02Exxon’s true crime? - 06NY Attorney General Investigating ExxonMobil Over "Climate Change Lies" - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:56] <exec> 08└─Stopped giving to the Clinton Foundation. [freebeacon.com]
[00:34:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Username [4557] 02Simple Car - 06Chinese-Financed So. California Startup to Challenge Tesla - 982 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:33] <exec> 08└─What they need to make is a very simple electric sedan. One that has: - analog volt meter, speedometer/odometer with 1MPH ticks, and engine thermometer (contrary to popular belief electric motors and batteries get hot) - dedicated headlights switch - dedicated hvac power pot, rotatory swit...
[00:35:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The REAL power of the presidency - 06Colorado Voters Abolish Ban on Government-Owned Broadband - 465 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:35:49] <exec> 08└─Federal judges (especially SCOTUS members) can keep their jobs until they die or decide to quit. Of the folks running for president last time, which one would you rather have choosing those jurists? As a start, you might do a text search for the word "Justice" on this page [greenshadowcabinet.us] wh...
[00:36:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Shake My Head - 06Colorado Voters Abolish Ban on Government-Owned Broadband - 166 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:36:01] <exec> 08└─on the other you have government entering into private industry with its vastly larger coffers and the ability to pass laws to help itself and hinder its competition.
[00:36:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Shake My Head - 06Colorado Voters Abolish Ban on Government-Owned Broadband - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:36:04] <exec> 08└─Yes, the government is altruistic and has no desire for power, which money is. Scuse me while I finish laughing.
[00:36:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Gravis [4596] 02Re:Shake My Head - 06Colorado Voters Abolish Ban on Government-Owned Broadband - 134 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:36:07] <exec> 08└─What's truly needed is new players of the disruptive, private competition variety and the government to get the hell out of their way.
[00:37:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This One's Really Simple - 06What Technology Should Be Un-Invented? - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:37:40] <exec> 08└─That's real cool, equate ripping somebody off for a few bucks with physically raping them. Let me ask your mom if she'd rather pay me five dollars a month or just get raped bi-weekly. Idiots.
[00:38:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:Tar - 06What Technology Should Be Un-Invented? - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:38:16] <exec> 08└─Yes, I've un- invented the keyboard.
[00:38:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Huh. - 06The Most Common Job in Each State 1978-2014 - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:38:46] <exec> 08└─I'd say more but my brain jammed into neutral.
[00:38:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Huh. - 06The Most Common Job in Each State 1978-2014 - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:38:47] <exec> 08└─Every time I rev I see a news story that starts with: "A man in Florida..." and then suddenly I lose power!
[00:38:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Not believabe - 06The Most Common Job in Each State 1978-2014 - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:38:54] <exec> 08└─Don't forget vocational like dump, mixer, trash, roll off (dumpsters or skips). Then you have a lot of heavy haul/riggers who move around equipment and machinery such as front loaders, excavators, asphalt mills, and other heavy goods like transformers, jet engines, etc. Then throw in tow trucks and...
[00:39:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:This right here - 06The Most Common Job in Each State 1978-2014 - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:39:02] <exec> 08└─The difference is the buggy whip/blacksmith are apples to drivers oranges. There were more horse/buggy drivers than blacksmiths and buggy whip makers combined. The horse drivers could easily move to trucks and the horses sent to the glue factory. The buggy whip and blacksmiths were a small percentag...
[00:39:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Primary School Teacher? - 06The Most Common Job in Each State 1978-2014 - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:39:12] <exec> 08└─Obviously there aren't enough teachers.
[00:42:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:No Balance - 06Trans-Pacific Partnership Text Released - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:42:00] <exec> 08└─WTF are you ranting about? As is obvious from my post this is EXACTLY what I think.
[00:43:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03el_oscuro [1711] (Score:2) 02Re:Why go through the bother - 06Rail-Launched Super Strypi Rocket Packed with Cubesats Fails in Debut - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:43:12] <exec> 08└─If they could accelerate the rocket a few hundred meters a second before igniting the rocket, it should save a significant amount of fuel. My KSP rockets always use a lot during the first 200 m/s
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[01:34:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:wtf? - 06Pentagon may be Deciding Norwegian Negotiating Position on Internet Governance - 1231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:34:10] <exec> 08└─"Can someone summarize for me what the summary is saying?" Basically the rich are trying to lock down the internet and information space because the free flow of information is a threat to their power. There is a huge amount of Orwellian double speak going on in terms of "trade agreements" that are...
[01:37:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Warez - 06New Android Adware Affects Thousands of Apps - 903 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:37:05] <exec> 08└─On the PC, I can at least do a form of integrity checking on the thing I download ( MD5 ). There are several sites I can go to and tell them the MD5 I got and they will tell me what I have ( their database is keyed to the MD5 ). This has helped me a lot in avoiding incidental malware installs. Some...
[01:40:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This reads like an appendix to "Icons and Idiot - 06More Trouble at VW - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:40:06] <exec> 08└─We need more executives with that kind of approach, and not the Piëchs and Bezoses of the business world.
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[02:33:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03black6host [3827] (Score:3, Insightful) 02I vape - 06Study Finds Banning E-Cigarette Sales to Minors Spurs Conventional Smoking - 717 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:33:27] <exec> 08└─I started vaping almost 2 years ago. Haven't had a cig since. I don't vape much either. I have and can go days without it. It was very effective for what I wanted to do. Quit smoking. Am I completely off of vaping, no. But I don't panic when I run out of the house and don't have my e-cig on me. Befo...
[02:33:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02The Obvious Solution... - 06Study Finds Banning E-Cigarette Sales to Minors Spurs Conventional Smoking - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:33:28] <exec> 08└─Is to make it illegal for minors to buy regular cigarettes! Oh, wait.
[02:33:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03deadstick [5110] (Score:2) 02Re:Highly-challenged Krauts... - 06Lower Austria Goes All-Renewable - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:33:39] <exec> 08└─I bought a T-shirt in Salzburg that proclaimed NO KANGAROOS IN AUSTRIA over a picture of cows dancing on an Alpine mountainside, on their hind feet, holding calves in belly pouches. Sadly, it was cheap and crappy and didn't last long. But I'll never forget those Mozartkugeln...
[02:33:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Good work! - 06Lower Austria Goes All-Renewable - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:33:42] <exec> 08└─Sure, they had the advantage of geography - lots of mountains and rivers to run hydro on. By it's solid proof that pure renewables can be done. They are now absolutely in the realm of "possible but hard", not "impossible" - and if things keep going the way they are, soon enough they'll be merely "po...
[02:33:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Read the LA article - 06NY Attorney General Investigating ExxonMobil Over "Climate Change Lies" - 666 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:33:59] <exec> 08└─Read the LA article. It seems Exxon cared about climate. Then by 1990 Exxon changed and started pushing campaigns for the opposite, because they feared the public would get an opinion that was against its bottom line. Pretty much like tobacco, maybe minus really caring at first. Sometimes the fortun...
[02:35:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:I can buy that - 06Car Tyres Cause 55% of Microplastic Waste, According to Study - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:35:13] <exec> 08└─the amount of debris that build up only to be obliterated or swept away by the snow and plows. I have wondered how more southerly locales deal with that same problem.
[02:35:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03deadstick [5110] (Score:2) 02Re:Shake My Head - 06Colorado Voters Abolish Ban on Government-Owned Broadband - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:35:48] <exec> 08└─Jefferson County, Colorado (western suburbs of Denver) did precisely that to the right-wing faction in their school board Tuesday.
[02:37:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:His Last Words: - 06Immunosuppressed Man Dies of Tapeworm Cancer - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:37:41] <exec> 08└─Some other systemd testimonials: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[02:38:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02NSFW - very dangerous way to use a selfie stick - 06What Technology Should Be Un-Invented? - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:38:06] <exec> 08└─Selfie! [youtube.com] ( toilet prank ).
[02:40:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:This reads like an appendix to "Icons and Idiot - 06More Trouble at VW - 608 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:40:17] <exec> 08└─Actually, I think we do need them. The problem is, they are so very highly over rated, they have begun to think of themselves as minor gods. What we need, are executives who understand their place in the grand scheme of things. Executives belong on the floor, among the workers, listening and learnin...
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[03:33:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02If it has half the number of cores... - 06AMD Sued by Costumer Over MisRepresentation of "Multicore" - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:33:31] <exec> 08└─Does that mean the my 3-core processor really has 1 1/2 cores?
[03:33:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:If it has half the number of cores... - 06AMD Sued by Costumer Over MisRepresentation of "Multicore" - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:33:32] <exec> 08└─If it's an Intel CPU, it actually has 0.999899609886995 cores.
[03:33:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Per-core licenses? - 06AMD Sued by Costumer Over MisRepresentation of "Multicore" - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:33:34] <exec> 08└─What does this mean for people who have paid for licenses on a per-core basis?
[03:33:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Initial thoughts - 06AMD Sued by Costumer Over MisRepresentation of "Multicore" - 945 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:33:36] <exec> 08└─All of my Opterons have shown up in system diagnostics to have the same number of cores that were advertised. All of them have shown clock speeds as advertised. All of them have given benchmarks very similar to those advertised. All of my Opterons have performed as well or better than similarly adve...
[03:33:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Costumer though? - 06AMD Sued by Costumer Over MisRepresentation of "Multicore" - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:33:38] <exec> 08└─Really?
[03:33:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:I vape - 06Study Finds Banning E-Cigarette Sales to Minors Spurs Conventional Smoking - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:33:46] <exec> 08└─I think its a different thing if you previously smoked, and went to vaping to get away from smoking. The story suggests, that for this age group, vaping was being taken up before and instead of smoking. That is the conclusion we are led to but the TFA is so thin you can't be sure what the data actua...
[03:33:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Lemmee see if I got this right - 06Study Finds Banning E-Cigarette Sales to Minors Spurs Conventional Smoking - 736 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:33:48] <exec> 08└─It's illegal for those under 18 to smoke cigarettes. It's illegal for those under 18 to vape. So not letting kids vape means more kids smoke. IMHO, the takeaway is "why is it easier for kids to get cigs than ecigs"? Both are bad for them. Seems the new fangled folks are doing a better job of Doing T...
[03:33:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lemmee see if I got this right - 06Study Finds Banning E-Cigarette Sales to Minors Spurs Conventional Smoking - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:33:50] <exec> 08└─the real question is why the fuck do some people still think they can solve a problem by making something illegal?
[03:33:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lemmee see if I got this right - 06Study Finds Banning E-Cigarette Sales to Minors Spurs Conventional Smoking - 435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:33:52] <exec> 08└─The point of making stuff illegal isn't to eradicate it entirely, because that's impossible, but to minimize its effects and dangers. In some cases, like with drugs and prostitution, making it illegal only creates even more problems and harms, but I don't think there's anyone who would argue that ma...
[03:33:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score:2) 02Re:Lemmee see if I got this right - 06Study Finds Banning E-Cigarette Sales to Minors Spurs Conventional Smoking - 595 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:33:54] <exec> 08└─I myself am for freedom and personal choice. However, I think all the additives in regular cigarettes should be completely illegal. I'd also like to see government funding for genetically modified non-carcinogenic tobacco. I hear they got a breed of it now with no nicotine. I still want my nicotine....
[03:33:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Logic fail - 06Study Finds Banning E-Cigarette Sales to Minors Spurs Conventional Smoking - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:33:55] <exec> 08└─"Conventional cigarette use has been falling somewhat steadily among this age group since the start of the 21st century.
[03:33:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Logic fail - 06Study Finds Banning E-Cigarette Sales to Minors Spurs Conventional Smoking - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:33:57] <exec> 08└─Most people I know who vape do so with 0mg unless they were an ex smoker. I've never known a non-smoker who vapes to use nicotine (though I won't be surprised if those cases exists). This study fails to note if teens are actually getting nictone or not. I've managed to quit smoking paper and step do...
[03:34:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03xav [5579] (Score:1) 02Re:Highly-challenged Krauts... - 06Lower Austria Goes All-Renewable - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:34:06] <exec> 08└─> But I'll never forget those Mozartkugeln Which translates to "But I'll never forget those Mozart balls"... I had to do some searching to understand what you meant.
[03:34:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Good work! - 06Lower Austria Goes All-Renewable - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:34:11] <exec> 08└─I'm not so sure it was solid proof of anything. There was nothing said about how many coal plants were shut down. In fact the only Coal power plant [wikipedia.org] I can find in the country was recently built to substitute for nuclear power station that never went on line after it was built. A quick...
[03:34:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:3, Interesting) 02I spent some time there recently... - 06Lower Austria Goes All-Renewable - 1478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:34:12] <exec> 08└─and was amazed by how clean and beautiful the place was, and how amazing the government services were (free health care, paid leaves, did I mention how clean everything was?). I struck up a conversation with a bus driver on a long route. He had lived in San Francisco before moving to Austria (from H...
[03:34:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:I spent some time there recently... - 06Lower Austria Goes All-Renewable - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:34:14] <exec> 08└─The problem is having the largest military in the world is what keeps you relevant as a world power.
[03:34:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:I spent some time there recently... - 06Lower Austria Goes All-Renewable - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:34:16] <exec> 08└─But is it worth it? I see your point, but could we still be a world power and only spend 45%? And how important is it to be relevant as a world power? Austrians seem pretty happy...
[03:34:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I spent some time there recently... - 06Lower Austria Goes All-Renewable - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:34:17] <exec> 08└─They can afford not to spend on defense because we do it for them, fool.
[03:34:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I spent some time there recently... - 06Lower Austria Goes All-Renewable - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:34:19] <exec> 08└─Same goes for every other country. What we get in return for spending money so they don't have to is political power to shape the world as we see fit with their blessing. Amazing how everything makes sens with sufficient information.
[03:35:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I can buy that - 06Car Tyres Cause 55% of Microplastic Waste, According to Study - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:35:47] <exec> 08└─That probably was soot. Remember all those pictures of people wearing hats from a century ago? That's why. To keep the soot off.
[03:38:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Religion != technology - 06What Technology Should Be Un-Invented? - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:38:50] <exec> 08└─true when you think of science in its pure form however, many people have as much blind faith in science as any religious person
[03:39:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:Lawns - 06What Technology Should Be Un-Invented? - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:39:16] <exec> 08└─In that case, someone should cut down all the trees along the riverbanks...
[03:40:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Change a-comin' - 06The Most Common Job in Each State 1978-2014 - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:40:01] <exec> 08└─That's why the guns need to be taken away.
[03:40:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:Change a-comin' - 06The Most Common Job in Each State 1978-2014 - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:40:04] <exec> 08└─Ever been to a UPS or FedEx hub? last time I was, a good 20 years ago, it was already almost entirely automated.
[03:40:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Change a-comin' - 06The Most Common Job in Each State 1978-2014 - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:40:05] <exec> 08└─There's a reason every useful weapon is banned. (machineguns etc)
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[04:33:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:If it has half the number of cores... - 06AMD Sued by Costumer Over MisRepresentation of "Multicore" - 3082 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:33:32] <exec> 08└─No it means this dumbass doesn't know anything about CPU arches. I sell AMD exclusively in the shop and have read extensively about how the BD/PD arch works. What you have is a PAIR of integer cores and the FPU can be ONE 256bit FPU (for AVX) OR, and here is the key point, it can be used as TWO 128b...
[04:33:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Per-core licenses? - 06AMD Sued by Costumer Over MisRepresentation of "Multicore" - 798 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:33:34] <exec> 08└─Wow. Is that an interesting idea or what? Plenty of stuff is licensed that way. If he can prove it only has 4 cores in a court of law, then anybody with licenses just got double what they needed, or a slam dunk lawsuit against AMD for the difference. It seems logical to me that you would only pay fo...
[04:33:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Initial thoughts - 06AMD Sued by Costumer Over MisRepresentation of "Multicore" - 409 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:33:36] <exec> 08└─I should have noted that monitoring programs actually appear to monitor all 12 of my cores. That is, I don't have six pairs of cores, with the activity of one core slaved to that of another. Each of my 12 cores shows increasing and decreasing usage independent of any other core. We can be reasonably...
[04:33:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Initial thoughts - 06AMD Sued by Costumer Over MisRepresentation of "Multicore" - 408 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:33:38] <exec> 08└─I don't even have to RTFA to tell you what he's complaining about. To put it simply, the bulldozer arch has 1 floating point unit for every 2 integer units. So an 8 core chip can run 8 integer threads simultaneously, but can only do 4 floating point threads simultaneously. If a thread mixes a lot of...
[04:33:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:3, Informative) 02I bring the gift of knowledge - 06AMD Sued by Costumer Over MisRepresentation of "Multicore" - 4050 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:33:40] <exec> 08└─Modern CPU cores ("modern" in this case meaning Pentium Pro / K5 and later) are complicated beasts. Within each core, you have an instruction decoder (which can decode multiple instructions per clock), a few buffers between decode and execute (for instruction reordering), and then a number of execut...
[04:33:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02So they were hyperthreaded? - 06AMD Sued by Costumer Over MisRepresentation of "Multicore" - 369 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:33:42] <exec> 08└─Intel's Xeon has hyperthreading, which means that two threads can progress at times when they require different resources, but in the worst case, the throughput is the same as if there were no hyperthreading. When you examine the output of /proc/cpuinfo, each hyperthread is counted as a separate pro...
[04:33:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So they were hyperthreaded? - 06AMD Sued by Costumer Over MisRepresentation of "Multicore" - 538 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:33:44] <exec> 08└─> but in the worst case, the throughput is the same as if there were no hyperthreading. I bet I could put together a workload that ran slower with hyperthreading enabled, all you gotta do is thrash the shit out of the cache with aliasing (access memory addresses that are distinct but collide in the...
[04:33:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02two for one - 06AMD Sued by Costumer Over MisRepresentation of "Multicore" - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:33:46] <exec> 08└─I'm drunk and finding this hilarious. Everyone knows Bulldozer is worth half the cores and had known for years.
[04:33:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lemmee see if I got this right - 06Study Finds Banning E-Cigarette Sales to Minors Spurs Conventional Smoking - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:33:58] <exec> 08└─...but I don't think there's anyone who would argue that making alcohol, or cigarettes or other nicotine products like ecigs, illegal to sell to people under 18 creates any significant problems.
[04:33:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:Lemmee see if I got this right - 06Study Finds Banning E-Cigarette Sales to Minors Spurs Conventional Smoking - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:33:59] <exec> 08└─Not making it illegal, making it harder to get legally while cutting off a lot of illegal consumption. If you're old enough now to get a prescription, fine. If you aren't, sucks to be you. A different approach to flat out making it illegal and letting the drug gangs shoot it out for dominance for a...
[04:34:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Logic fail - 06Study Finds Banning E-Cigarette Sales to Minors Spurs Conventional Smoking - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:34:03] <exec> 08└─OMG! "Pot" with a capital P which rhymes with T which stands for tool.
[04:34:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:Logic fail - 06Study Finds Banning E-Cigarette Sales to Minors Spurs Conventional Smoking - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:34:05] <exec> 08└─2) E-cigs came along and because they were assumed to be harmless, sucked a lot of teens into the nicotine addiction that had been dwindling steadily since the mid 90s.
[04:34:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:wtf? - 06Pentagon may be Deciding Norwegian Negotiating Position on Internet Governance - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:35:00] <exec> 08└─Norway was one of, if not the, first nations to be hooked to what was to become the Internet. This because USA wanted a data link to certain radar and radio installations close to the USSR.
[04:35:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrchew1982 [3565] (Score:2) 02Re:Heavy Metals Too - 06Car Tyres Cause 55% of Microplastic Waste, According to Study - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:35:53] <exec> 08└─I was always told that the copper originated from metallic brake pads (as an antisquel agent) and the zinc comes from motor oil (an antiwear additive).
[04:36:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03khchung [457] (Score:2) 02Re:It might even be 100%... - 06Car Tyres Cause 55% of Microplastic Waste, According to Study - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:36:05] <exec> 08└─Because the car is the holy cow of the 1900s.
[04:36:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02light field - 06Out With the Old, in With the New: Telescope Mirrors Get New Shape - 508 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:36:22] <exec> 08└─The first thought is towards light field photography, and how it provides a means of capturing images without the fiddly focus issue. This by means akin to a fly eye, where each segment is independently focused and then composited into a image where every object is in focus. The human eye and brain...
[04:37:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shake My Head - 06Colorado Voters Abolish Ban on Government-Owned Broadband - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:37:08] <exec> 08└─Nowhere did he say that either, you effing moron.
[04:38:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:F-Droid - 06New Android Adware Affects Thousands of Apps - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:38:06] <exec> 08└─I always search there first, and only go to the Play Store if I don't find a suitable app on F-Droid.
[04:38:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How serious could they be - 06What Technology Should Be Un-Invented? - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:38:57] <exec> 08└─The look on their face is priceless.
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[05:33:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] 02Re:If it has half the number of cores... - 06AMD Sued by Costumer Over MisRepresentation of "Multicore" - 3082 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:33:40] <exec> 08└─No it means this dumbass doesn't know anything about CPU arches. I sell AMD exclusively in the shop and have read extensively about how the BD/PD arch works. What you have is a PAIR of integer cores and the FPU can be ONE 256bit FPU (for AVX) OR, and here is the key point, it can be used as TWO 128b...
[05:33:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Per-core licenses? - 06AMD Sued by Costumer Over MisRepresentation of "Multicore" - 508 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:33:43] <exec> 08└─In terms of hardware complexity and functionality, this module is equal to a dual-core processor in its integer power, and to a single-core processor in its floating-point power: for each two integer cores, there is one floating-point core. The floating-point cores are similar to a single core proce...
[05:33:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03gman003 [4155] 02I bring the gift of knowledge - 06AMD Sued by Costumer Over MisRepresentation of "Multicore" - 4050 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:33:47] <exec> 08└─Modern CPU cores ("modern" in this case meaning Pentium Pro / K5 and later) are complicated beasts. Within each core, you have an instruction decoder (which can decode multiple instructions per clock), a few buffers between decode and execute (for instruction reordering), and then a number of execut...
[05:34:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Logic fail - 06Study Finds Banning E-Cigarette Sales to Minors Spurs Conventional Smoking - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:34:11] <exec> 08└─But, don't you see, that just deepens the question. If young vapers are not after nicotine, then why do they turn to cigarettes when vaping becomes illegal for them? if there was no nicotine addiction, what is left to drive them to cigarettes? Oral fixation?
[05:34:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Logic fail - 06Study Finds Banning E-Cigarette Sales to Minors Spurs Conventional Smoking - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:34:14] <exec> 08└─More like, ecigs came along and were much easier for teens to get.
[05:34:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Highly-challenged Krauts... - 06Lower Austria Goes All-Renewable - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:34:28] <exec> 08└─yORE A Genus E-fooled.
[05:34:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Read the LA article - 06NY Attorney General Investigating ExxonMobil Over "Climate Change Lies" - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:34:54] <exec> 08└─Then by 1990 Exxon changed and started pushing campaigns for the opposite, because they feared the public would get an opinion that was against its bottom line.
[05:35:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Username [4557] (Score:2) 02Re:Johnsonville? - 06Chinese-Financed So. California Startup to Challenge Tesla - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:35:36] <exec> 08└─Maybe better wieners, but not brats. There is no besting sheboygan style.
[05:35:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Username [4557] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Simple Car - 06Chinese-Financed So. California Startup to Challenge Tesla - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:35:46] <exec> 08└─Can always use preexisting forklift batteries too. There is already an industry build around them and they come with standard sizes, voltages and chargers. Can start new brands of battery with Al tray instead of steel, and acid/NiMH/Li cell versions at different price points. If the cars fail, you c...
[05:37:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shake My Head - 06Colorado Voters Abolish Ban on Government-Owned Broadband - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:37:26] <exec> 08└─Aren't bribes openly acceptable in some communist countries. At least in the U.S. direct bribes are illegal.
[05:37:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A sudden attack of sanity? - 06Colorado Voters Abolish Ban on Government-Owned Broadband - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:37:41] <exec> 08└─That's more of a neoliberal idea. Libertarians are quite capable of recognizing areas where the state can do a better job than the private sector. If municipal broadband is not paid for out of rates or taxes they'll be quite happy to use it.
[05:39:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This One's Really Simple - 06What Technology Should Be Un-Invented? - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:39:03] <exec> 08└─Let me ask your mom if she'd rather pay me five dollars a month or just get raped bi-weekly.
[05:39:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Religion != technology - 06What Technology Should Be Un-Invented? - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:39:27] <exec> 08└─Technology == applied science
[05:42:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheLink [332] (Score:2) 02Re:Good bye National Geographic - 06National Geographic, 1888 - 2015 - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:42:58] <exec> 08└─The 2006 version was obviously from a show for very young kids - Elementary School age. The 2007 version was for NatGeo Wild, intended to be educational but aimed at general audiences.
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[06:33:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03DrkShadow [1404] (Score:1) 02Re:How is that worse than it is now? - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 1281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:33:30] <exec> 08└─Last I read it, the GPL explicitly states that you don't need to agree to the license to use the software. Further, it dictates that you must offer for distribution the source code and any changes to the source code if you distribute the binaries from the source code. In the latter part, consider a...
[06:33:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How is that worse than it is now? - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 670 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:33:32] <exec> 08└─or more likely it will make it illegal for multinational companies to use GPL software, since using it and not distributing source code will violate the license the GPL might be incompatible with the TPP, but the TPP doesn't mean there can be no GPL most countries party to the TPP will operate as th...
[06:33:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Binds countries, not citizens - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 709 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:33:33] <exec> 08└─"Party" as a legal term means "one who has signed this contract or other legal document". In treaties (which are essentially contracts between countries), it does not bind citizens, only the governments themselves. This clause seems to be a good thing. It prevents a country from saying "if you want...
[06:33:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Binds countries, not citizens - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 843 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:33:35] <exec> 08└─Agreed, that's how I read it as well. The GPL itself is safe. Parties are governments. Governments can't demand source code from persons in OTHER countries. But is the GPL still enforceable in any court? Hmmm. That's not so clear. I could imagine there might be a situation where the GPL couldn't be...
[06:33:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02TPP is just a small piece of a bigger puzzle... - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:33:37] <exec> 08└─There have been regulations strangling companies in the US for decades, such as [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Traffic_in_Arms_Regulations]] That companies have been bailing out of the country should come as no surprise to anyone.
[06:33:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] 02Re:If it has half the number of cores... - 06AMD Sued by Costumer Over MisRepresentation of "Multicore" - 62 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:33:45] <exec> 08└─If it's an Intel CPU, it actually has 0.999899609886995 cores.
[06:33:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Costumer though? - 06AMD Sued by Costumer Over MisRepresentation of "Multicore" - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:33:56] <exec> 08└─You need to say it with one of those accents... The sort that goes well with "Nice business you've got there...".
[06:35:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Read the LA article - 06NY Attorney General Investigating ExxonMobil Over "Climate Change Lies" - 923 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:35:01] <exec> 08└─For example, here's a typical accusation [theguardian.com] of what Exxon funds: Exxon channeled about $30m to researchers and activist groups promoting disinformation about global warming over the years, according to a tally kept by the campaign group Greenpeace. But the oil company pledged to stop...
[06:35:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What about current efforts to undermine? - 06NY Attorney General Investigating ExxonMobil Over "Climate Change Lies" - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:35:09] <exec> 08└─The goal is to examine whether back in the 1970s, Exxon Mobil funded groups to undermine scientific studies involving climate change.
[06:35:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:What about current efforts to undermine? - 06NY Attorney General Investigating ExxonMobil Over "Climate Change Lies" - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:35:10] <exec> 08└─Sure, that's great, but is anyone investigating the current effort by Exxon-Mobil (and/or the entire petroleum industry) for more recent, including current undermining of science? If not, why not?
[06:35:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:wtf? - 06Pentagon may be Deciding Norwegian Negotiating Position on Internet Governance - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:35:23] <exec> 08└─Just give the masses their bread and circuses (reality TV, facebook, candy crush etc) and the rich will mostly be fine. And fact is that's what most of them really want. Not more wars. It's only a few crazy leaders stirring up foolish young men to kill and die. We'd do a lot better if people stopped...
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[07:33:34] <exec> 08└─Could a civilization live for trillions of years by siphoning gas from a brown dwarf?
[07:33:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:How is that worse than it is now? - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:33:46] <exec> 08└─as the TPP declares this particular clause illegal
[07:33:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03kanweg [4737] (Score:1) 02Re:How is that worse than it is now? - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 547 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:33:47] <exec> 08└─Yes, but interestingly, where does this leave countries when they want to automate their own activities? Will it be impossible for a government to have software developed without getting to own the source code? In my country, the processing of taxes is a mess because of software produced by IBM that...
[07:33:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03caffeine [249] (Score:2) 02Re:Binds countries, not citizens - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:33:51] <exec> 08└─This clause seems to be a good thing. It prevents a country from saying "if you want to sell your software here, you have to give us the source code", either to search for security flaws to exploit, or just for good old-fashioned state-sponsored corporate espionage.
[07:33:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Adamsjas [4507] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Binds countries, not citizens - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:33:52] <exec> 08└─For example, if the Australian government were to block the use of a radiation therapy machine that the TGA could not verify due to this TPP limitation, would the US based manufacture be able to sue them for access to the market?
[07:33:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Binds countries, not citizens - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:33:54] <exec> 08└─That manufacturer could probably sue, yes. (IANAL, etc.)
[07:33:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Binds countries, not citizens - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:33:56] <exec> 08└─Unless "party" has been defined in the preceding text to refer to someone other than a national signatory. I haven't poured through the preceding text to discover if this is the case or not.
[07:33:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2, Offtopic) 02Law is one of those things. - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 1527 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:33:58] <exec> 08└─Law. So we have a treaty. That treaty says that all the laws in your country, the ones you have spent generations working out, or have recently had a very bloody revolution to emplace, are now all null and void. Well, that is very nice. But since this "treaty" is not actually between sovereign nat...
[07:33:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03zugedneb [4556] (Score:3, Interesting) 02gift from above - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:33:59] <exec> 08└─...and how much money Microsoft spent lobbying to get this included in the TPP, or if the NSA has a role in this.
[07:34:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Initial thoughts - 06AMD Sued by Customer Over Misrepresentation of "Multicore" - 579 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:34:13] <exec> 08└─Monitoring programs? You know how those really work? There is no set rule you know. Microsoft [microsoft.com] says it just counts passes through their idle routine. Linux does it differently, watching for time when there no tasks waiting to be dispatched. But none of those methods mean didly squat w...
[07:34:17] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Re:Costumer though? - 06AMD Sued by Customer Over Misrepresentation of "Multicore" - 223 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:34:17] <exec> 08└─Well, yes - costumers would presumably work on Broadway, or in Hollywood. And, they probably use computers. So - a costumer has sued AMD because he could only design 4 costumes on his computer, instead of the 8 he expected.
[07:34:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I vape - 06Study Finds Banning E-Cigarette Sales to Minors Spurs Conventional Smoking - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:34:32] <exec> 08└─Vape cannabis, fuck nicotine
[07:35:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I spent some time there recently... - 06Lower Austria Goes All-Renewable - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:35:06] <exec> 08└─It also harbors a lot of resentment from the rest of the world and results in a lot of body bags being brought home to keep the empire strong and the lobbyists donating.
[07:35:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I spent some time there recently... - 06Lower Austria Goes All-Renewable - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:35:09] <exec> 08└─If you honestly think the current state of world affairs benefits US citizens, you're living in la la land.
[07:35:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:wtf? - 06Pentagon may be Deciding Norwegian Negotiating Position on Internet Governance - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:35:51] <exec> 08└─Quisling. Swedes would know. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Bloody Vikings! Spam, spam, spam, spam, glorious spam!
[07:36:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re: Range anxiety cure - 06Chinese-Financed So. California Startup to Challenge Tesla - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:36:20] <exec> 08└─Just rent a generating trailer for road-tips. This page proved to me that range-anxiety is solvable problem. [evnut.com]
[07:36:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Leaked photo of chinas electric car... - 06Chinese-Financed So. California Startup to Challenge Tesla - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:36:22] <exec> 08└─Is the Adam Sandler extra?
[07:36:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Simple Car - 06Chinese-Financed So. California Startup to Challenge Tesla - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:36:27] <exec> 08└─Lead acid is fine in fork-lift applications because you want the vehicle to be heavy. The batteries also last longer when you are limited to 12km/h.
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[08:33:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03caffeine [249] (Score:2) 02Re:Binds countries, not citizens - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 416 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:33:50] <exec> 08└─Critical infrastructure seems fairly hazy. Does that include the software to run a router? The operating system used by government employees? The email client used in the military? The control systems for the new F35? My example was the software in a machine used for radiation therapy. I'd imagine t...
[08:33:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Binds countries, not citizens - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:33:51] <exec> 08└─What if some governments want to ban some proprietary software for some mass market applications? No proprietary software can be trusted.
[08:33:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Binds countries, not citizens - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:33:55] <exec> 08└─It even explicitly says "this does not mean license agreements cannot include a clause requiring source code" (3a).
[08:33:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonymousCowardNoMore [5416] (Score:2) 02Re:gift from above - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 1007 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:33:59] <exec> 08└─You claim that there will be no need for graphics drivers, so each software author will write their own equations for a general-purpose processor (which now happens to do vectors)? We already had that—before GPUs were mainstream—and it sucked. Drivers exist precisely so that each program doesn't...
[08:34:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lemmee see if I got this right - 06Study Finds Banning E-Cigarette Sales to Minors Spurs Conventional Smoking - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:34:39] <exec> 08└─Actually, there are people like that. Government thugs have no business banning such things under any circumstances because people, children included, have a fundamental right to control their own bodies. This is true even if governments deny it, which they do.
[08:34:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Logic fail - 06Study Finds Banning E-Cigarette Sales to Minors Spurs Conventional Smoking - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:34:45] <exec> 08└─Same reasons people of all ages start smoking, I would suppose.
[08:34:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Logic fail - 06Study Finds Banning E-Cigarette Sales to Minors Spurs Conventional Smoking - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:34:50] <exec> 08└─Actually, ecigs are considerably less addictive than cigarettes. Cigarettes contain MAO inhibitors that potentiate nicotine and it's addictive properties.
[08:35:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What about current efforts to undermine? - 06NY Attorney General Investigating ExxonMobil Over "Climate Change Lies" - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:35:41] <exec> 08└─Gov't agencies? Better funded than the petroleum industry? I'mma bustagut laughing.... Newsbreak: Petroleum industry owns the government.
[08:39:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:How serious could they be - 06What Technology Should Be Un-Invented? - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:39:58] <exec> 08└─You're not anyone. You're the the author of that comment I'm currently replying to. While anyone could have authored that comment, it was you who did.
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[09:33:32] <exec> 08└─Both topics have only in common that they are online (as is quite much of our life nowadays) and about paying a ransom. Connecting the FBI recommendation to this email-provider story seemed to imply there was a confidentiality-breach at the mail provider (encrypting their servers to collect ransom f...
[09:33:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:How is that worse than it is now? - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:33:53] <exec> 08└─This clause only applies to mass market software, and critical infrastructure software is exempt. In tax software example, the problem is simply a contractual one, between IBM and the government. A government that did not insist on source code for something so important as tax collection is in a tou...
[09:33:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How is that worse than it is now? - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:33:54] <exec> 08└─Essentially, signatories are prohibited from adopting (Free and) Open source software. If they put out a tender for bids to build a software system, the winner is allowed to keep the resulting source-code secret. The contract is not allowed to specify ahead of time that it will be Free and Open sour...
[09:34:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Binds countries, not citizens - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:34:02] <exec> 08└─Nothing in the quoted section of the TPP addresses bans. We have nothing to go on for that question.
[09:34:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Safety issue - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 472 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:34:05] <exec> 08└─The clause prohibits governments requiring source code disclosure for market access. This makes it illegal to demand source code escrow for safety-critical systems like pacemakers, automobiles, aircraft, and heating systems. It also appears to prohibit the requirement for source code disclosure when...
[09:34:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Re:Law is one of those things. - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 490 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:34:10] <exec> 08└─Provided the copyrights are all owned by corporations that aren't paying royalties to the people that put in the long hours to create it, sure. If it's more a matter of "I don't want to spend the money I worked hard to earn in order to buy something somebody else worked hard to create," then it woul...
[09:34:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Initial thoughts - 06AMD Sued by Customer Over Misrepresentation of "Multicore" - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:34:29] <exec> 08└─I guess then the original 8086 was a zero-core processor because it didn't have a floating point unit at all. You could buy an external one, the 8087.
[09:34:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03robind [3] (Score:1) 02Re:So they were hyperthreaded? - 06AMD Sued by Customer Over Misrepresentation of "Multicore" - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:34:36] <exec> 08└─To be fair you can always construct a workload that will break a given architecture.
[09:35:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Good work! - 06Lower Austria Goes All-Renewable - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:35:22] <exec> 08└─Indeed at the web site of the power company operating that plant [www.evn.at] [in German] it also looks as if the power plant is still operational. One would expect that the company would be the first to know when their power plant is switched off.
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[10:33:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Fund raising? - 06Email Firm Pays Web Attack Ransom - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:33:32] <exec> 08└─They won't be getting any funds from me to hand on to crooks.
[10:33:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02No - 06Unlocking the Mysteries of 'Little Starlets' - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:33:40] <exec> 08└─Work done to remove gas from gravitational potential well of brown dwarf and all that. Chemical energy is pretty feeble.
[10:33:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:How is that worse than it is now? - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:33:52] <exec> 08└─...GPL software, since using it and not distributing source code will violate the license...
[10:33:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How is that worse than it is now? - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:33:56] <exec> 08└─So how does it apply to governments that want to go open source and possibly switch away from Windows? Is Linux and desktop OSS mass-market? Does it prevent Governments from saying "we want to only have open source software" as some have done or are doing?
[10:33:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:How is that worse than it is now? - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:33:59] <exec> 08└─Essentially, signatories are prohibited from adopting (Free and) Open source software. If they put out a tender for bids to build a software system, the winner is allowed to keep the resulting source-code secret. The contract is not allowed to specify ahead of time that it will be Free and Open sour...
[10:34:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Binds countries, not citizens - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:34:08] <exec> 08└─One way to alleviate the problem would be to force companies to surrender the source code in some cases. Others would be to simply not use specific software. But it seems the former solution would be disallowed in this case.
[10:34:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:Binds countries, not citizens - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:34:13] <exec> 08└─It even explicitly says "this does not mean license agreements cannot include a clause requiring source code" (3a).
[10:34:14] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aristarchus [2645] 02Law is one of those things. - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 1527 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:34:15] <exec> 08└─Law. So we have a treaty. That treaty says that all the laws in your country, the ones you have spent generations working out, or have recently had a very bloody revolution to emplace, are now all null and void. Well, that is very nice. But since this "treaty" is not actually between sovereign nat...
[10:34:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Law is one of those things. - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 490 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:34:17] <exec> 08└─Shirley, may I call you Shirley? that is not even a possibility. The fact that you bring it up at all makes me wonder. Yeah, that is what all us rebels want, free stuff, rather than freedom itself. If creative people are thinking about money, they are not creating. Sometimes they have to, but it is...
[10:34:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:gift from above - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:34:20] <exec> 08└─As for what you call "real physics" in games, that's a pipe dream.
[10:34:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:So they were hyperthreaded? - 06AMD Sued by Customer Over Misrepresentation of "Multicore" - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:34:45] <exec> 08└─Floating point intensive programs almost inevitably perform better if hyperthreading is disabled.
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[11:33:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02goals? - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:33:47] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately the debate is ultimately about preservation of own career, the benefits to the public are only excuses. The sorry state of the IT industry is not caused by programmers, nor obviously by engineers, but the higher ups anyway.
[11:33:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fear and lack of regulation - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:33:48] <exec> 08└─Two things stopping it: companies who are used to no liability clauses, and lack of regulations providing quality standards and liability protections for the parties involved.
[11:33:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02How is this possible? Micro$oft did it - 06Email Firm Pays Web Attack Ransom - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:33:58] <exec> 08└─The hundreds of millions of powned windoze boxen are what is creating this flood of traffic. Those wonderful botnetted DDOSers. Thank you M$ for creating this mess. And thank you ISPs for doing nothing to fix it.
[11:33:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02Re:How is this possible? Micro$oft did it - 06Email Firm Pays Web Attack Ransom - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:33:59] <exec> 08└─and thank the NSA for creating (mandating) the backdoors?
[11:34:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How is that worse than it is now? - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:34:21] <exec> 08└─You don't need to distribute (or offer to distribute) the source code if you use GPL software; you do need to distribute (or offer to distribute) the source code if you distribute GPL software as binary files.
[11:34:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How is that worse than it is now? - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:34:22] <exec> 08└─Probably the best post I've seen on soylent in a while. Prepare to get flamed, but good for you!
[11:36:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:wtf? - 06Pentagon may be Deciding Norwegian Negotiating Position on Internet Governance - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:36:54] <exec> 08└─The trouble is, some people have a book that culturally they are conditioned to follow (compelled to?) and that book says "take over the world and eliminate those who resist, making their lives a misery in the mean time." There is not just one book like this. There are many, and they people all have...
[11:37:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Tyre - 06Car Tyres Cause 55% of Microplastic Waste, According to Study - 431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:37:44] <exec> 08└─When smart-Alecs pick me up on my grammar or spelling I usually retort, "It's my language and I'll abuse it in any way I see fit." Didn't someone clever like Mark Twain or Oscar Wilde have something witty to say about people who could only think of one way to spell a word? So much of our grammar and...
[11:39:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:Shake My Head - 06Colorado Voters Abolish Ban on Government-Owned Broadband - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:39:04] <exec> 08└─The government's job in capitalism is not to sell laws to big players that minimize competition but to encourage, nay require, competition.
[11:39:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:Shake My Head - 06Colorado Voters Abolish Ban on Government-Owned Broadband - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:39:15] <exec> 08└─At least in the U.S. direct bribes are illegal.
[11:40:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This One's Really Simple - 06What Technology Should Be Un-Invented? - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:40:56] <exec> 08└─Let me ask your mom if she'd rather pay me five dollars a month or just get raped bi-weekly. That would be extortion.
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[12:33:33] <exec> 08└─Exactly. This nonsense over "engineer" is no different than any other bit of "intellectual property" bullshit with people trying to claim ownership over information or in this case a mere word.
[12:33:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Engineer? - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:35] <exec> 08└─Don't look at me, I call myself a code monkey in that context.
[12:33:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Engineer? - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:33:37] <exec> 08└─Don't you think it's time you promoted yourself to Simian Engineer?
[12:33:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marneus68 [3572] (Score:4, Informative) 02Stop telling me what to do. - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 598 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:38] <exec> 08└─I graduated from a French Engineering school with a master's degree in Software Architecture. As far as my country (and most of Europe) is concerned I am an Engineer. I happen to be a programmer too, but programming is only fraction of what I've learned in my time in . Project management, software a...
[12:33:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Stop telling me what to do. - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:33:40] <exec> 08└─I graduated from a French Engineering school with a master's degree in Software Architecture... Project management, software architecture, team management, quality control and insurance were other parts of what I was taught.
[12:33:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bill Evans [1094] (Score:2) 02It's partly a state of mind. - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:42] <exec> 08└─Perhaps slightly off topic, but there are characteristics in common between good engineers and good programmers. One of my favorites is a certain pessimism, what I like to call an engineering mentality: the propensity to think continually of a product, no matter how finished it seems: "There's somet...
[12:33:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03scruffybeard [533] (Score:2) 02Not This Debate Again - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:44] <exec> 08└─Here is more fuel for the fire: Kirk vs. Picard .NET vs Java Pi vs. Tau Discuss among yourselves.
[12:33:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02pfft - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:33:45] <exec> 08└─Kirk vs. Picard Janeway ftw! .NET vs Java Delphi ftw! Pi vs. Tau fuck greek, 💩 ftw!
[12:33:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not This Debate Again - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:33:47] <exec> 08└─π > τ
[12:33:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Just another IP cartel whining - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:49] <exec> 08└─I've never bothered to call myself a "software engineer." But I think I'll start doing so now, just like I go out of my way to support piracy of content produced by the most obnoxious "intellectual property" cartels.
[12:33:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Difference between SW engineering and programming - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 1314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:50] <exec> 08└─SW engineering [reference.com] is about mathematical models, architecture, complexity-considerations, modularization, in some cases mathematical proof of correctness. It is about best- and worst-case estimations etc. These things can be learned and done even without knowing a single actual programmi...
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[12:33:58] <exec> 08└─Runbox.com was hit with a DDOS two days ago. They did not pay the ransom.
[12:34:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No - 06Unlocking the Mysteries of 'Little Starlets' - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:34:08] <exec> 08└─What is the energy source powering gravity anyway?
[12:34:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonymousCowardNoMore [5416] (Score:2) 02Re:No - 06Unlocking the Mysteries of 'Little Starlets' - 854 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:34:10] <exec> 08└─Think of it as the other way around. Gravity creates a potential, so a system can have more potential in one configuration than in another. If the system moves between two configurations, the potential is realised in the form of e.g. kinetic energy or the kinetic energy is converted into potential e...
[12:34:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:How is that worse than it is now? - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:34:23] <exec> 08└─You don't need to distribute (or offer to distribute) the source code if you use GPL software; you do need to distribute (or offer to distribute) the source code if you distribute GPL software as binary files.
[12:34:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:How is that worse than it is now? - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 631 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:34:29] <exec> 08└─Of course they can decide to use Linux, just as they can decide to switch from Microsoft to Apple. Even if the clause would forbid them to say it's because of Open Source (I don't think it does, but I'm not a law/contract language expert), that would just mean they have to frame it indirectly. For e...
[12:34:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03gman003 [4155] 02Binds countries, not citizens - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 709 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:33] <exec> 08└─"Party" as a legal term means "one who has signed this contract or other legal document". In treaties (which are essentially contracts between countries), it does not bind citizens, only the governments themselves. This clause seems to be a good thing. It prevents a country from saying "if you want...
[12:34:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03AnonymousCowardNoMore [5416] 02Re:gift from above - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 1007 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:34:50] <exec> 08└─You claim that there will be no need for graphics drivers, so each software author will write their own equations for a general-purpose processor (which now happens to do vectors)? We already had that—before GPUs were mainstream—and it sucked. Drivers exist precisely so that each program doesn't...
[12:34:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:gift from above - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:34:52] <exec> 08└─Forever. The cheapest way to "simulate" something with an absolute degree of exactitude is to actually let the system (the one you attempt to "simulate") evolve naturally.
[12:34:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:gift from above - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 8 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:34:54] <exec> 08└─Forever.
[12:34:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bobs [1462] (Score:1) 02Re:gift from above - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:34:55] <exec> 08└─...as an culturally optimistic sidenote, I still hope that someday people will understand that the "internet" is just computers connected with a cord, but it may not happen in my lifetime.
[12:34:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:gift from above - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:34:57] <exec> 08└─I still hope that someday people will understand that the "internet" is just computers connected with a cord
[12:35:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03xav [5579] (Score:1) 02Re:So they were hyperthreaded? - 06AMD Sued by Customer Over Misrepresentation of "Multicore" - 522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:35:23] <exec> 08└─> When you examine the output of /proc/cpuinfo, each hyperthread is counted as a separate processor, which of course is bogus. More marketing bullshit from Intel. Watch out! /proc/cpuinfo is a marketing weapon in the hands of Intel! Do you really think that Intel wrote the kernel code that generates...
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[12:37:52] <exec> 08└─I have no problem with your use of the word "pedantics". Being mildly infuriating is part of what made it funny. But it was mainly funny because it was wrong. There are rules to language and accepted ways of spelling words; if there weren't then you wouldn't have been able to play with those rules t...
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[13:33:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Mind your own business - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:33:30] <exec> 08└─How about minding your own business? If people want to have sex with their own inanimate objects, they should be able to do so. I don't see the point of an ethics discussion. The fact that some people apparently see this as wrong just shows how authoritarian they are.
[13:33:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mind your own business - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:33:31] <exec> 08└─But but but... putting your gentitals into a plastic mold that's a particular shape is morally WRONG.
[13:33:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mind your own business - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:33:32] <exec> 08└─But but but... putting a plastic mold that's a particular shape into your gentitals is... wait, what?
[13:33:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02How? - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:33:34] <exec> 08└─Probably a large dildo collection.
[13:33:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Engineer? - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 576 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:33:46] <exec> 08└─Why? Who says all engineers, no matter the field, needs a licence? Maybe some would need to get over it and revert to an older sense [etymonline.com] of engineer/engineering? from Late Latin ingeniare (see engine); general sense of "inventor, designer" is recorded from early 15c.; civil sense, in re...
[13:34:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03shipofgold [4696] (Score:1) 02Re:How is that worse than it is now? - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:34:41] <exec> 08└─...plus the fact that I doubt that a "party to the TPP (aka government) puts out a tender for "Mass Market software". If a "party" to the TPP puts out a tender for bids, you can be sure it will be classified as "critical infrastructure".
[13:35:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:gift from above - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 1861 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:05] <exec> 08└─That misses the point, even for physics simulations. There are basically two reasons for doing physics simulations: The first one is to check theories. That is, you want to know whether your theory correctly describes the relevant aspects of the system. Now the system evolves not according to the th...
[13:35:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:gift from above - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:06] <exec> 08└─There are basically two reasons for doing physics simulations:
[13:35:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02I think the headline is wrong - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:35:09] <exec> 08└─TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code
[13:35:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score:1) 02Re:Lemmee see if I got this right - 06Study Finds Banning E-Cigarette Sales to Minors Spurs Conventional Smoking - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:57] <exec> 08└─IMHO, the takeaway is "why is it easier for kids to get cigs than ecigs"?
[13:36:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Logic fail - 06Study Finds Banning E-Cigarette Sales to Minors Spurs Conventional Smoking - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:36:02] <exec> 08└─Retardation? Being defective enough to be influenced by peer pressure to such an extent that they're willing to smoke cancer sticks?
[13:36:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:2) 02Re:Wow. Not. - 06Lower Austria Goes All-Renewable - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:36:23] <exec> 08└─Nobody said green. Just renewable. Which it is. More telling is only 2% solar and I've had any number of discussions here and elsewhere about its viability.
[13:38:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Change - 06Out With the Old, in With the New: Telescope Mirrors Get New Shape - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:40] <exec> 08└─I see what you did hear!
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[14:33:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Mind your own business - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:33:32] <exec> 08└─is fun to watch on teh internets!
[14:33:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mind your own business - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 450 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:33:33] <exec> 08└─"Authoritarian" is exactly what describes them. The quote is very telling: "because if people feel they can have an intimate relationship with a machine, that is saying something serious about how we're experiencing empathy with each other". In other words, some people's action would be "saying" som...
[14:33:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"I'm lovin' it" - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 412 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:36] <exec> 08└─Isn't art a voyeuristic sex act .. mostly? Do some people buy a "useless" air cooled motorcycle just because it stimulates that prostate gland so nicely even if it overheats quickly and doesn't even go that fast? Girl didn't get laid, fell in love with chocolate instead? I think people have been "ha...
[14:33:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fear of competition - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 1144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:38] <exec> 08└─A question to men: What ratio of men do you think would bother to date women if sex bots were available at an affordable price, say, the price of an expensive PC? How many men would buy one at home as soon as he moved out of his family's house? Note that I am NOT trying to say no one would get marri...
[14:33:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Fear of competition - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 517 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:33:39] <exec> 08└─Haven't heard of masturbation? It's a lot cheaper than paying for a date or going to a bar and trying to get laid. People can masturbate and they still get married. Until robots can provide proper companionship and children, I don't think there's any reasonable worry about this being a big problem....
[14:33:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Intimacy vs Sex - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:41] <exec> 08└─There is a large difference between intimacy and sex. People don't only have sex with people they are intimate with and there probably aren't very many people that have an intimate relationship with a dildo, pocket pussy, showerhead, etc.
[14:33:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Engineer? - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 752 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:33:53] <exec> 08└─The observation that language evolves is accurate, but it does not follow from that that we must accept every change to the language without a fight. For instance, I refuse to use the word "hacker" in confusing and ultimately harmful ways, and I will tell others who do so my thoughts on the matter....
[14:34:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] 02Difference between SW engineering and programming - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 1314 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:01] <exec> 08└─SW engineering [reference.com] is about mathematical models, architecture, complexity-considerations, modularization, in some cases mathematical proof of correctness. It is about best- and worst-case estimations etc. These things can be learned and done even without knowing a single actual programmi...
[14:34:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I've called myself a programmer since... - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:03] <exec> 08└─I found out Dennis Ritchie [wikipedia.org], on his income-tax return, listed his occupation as ``programmer''. [Unfortunately, I can no longer find a reference for that tidbit.]
[14:34:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03srobert [4803] (Score:2) 02I Have More Right to Call Myself an Engineer ... - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 684 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:05] <exec> 08└─... than just almost anybody else on this forum. I served an apprenticeship in the International Union of Operating Engineers where I was a stationary engineer, i.e. a jack of all trades boiler operator, plumber, electrician, HVAC technician, welder, etc. I had certifications for most of this. After...
[14:34:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03cykros [989] (Score:2) 02Re:How is that worse than it is now? - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 544 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:34:42] <exec> 08└─And...this is the issue with the word capitalist. Some use it to mean laissez-faire, unregulated market places, while others use it to refer to those who hold capital controlling the marketplace by whatever means they have at their disposal, thanks to their possession of capital. It shocks me how li...
[14:35:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:If it has half the number of cores... - 06AMD Sued by Customer Over Misrepresentation of "Multicore" - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:35:30] <exec> 08└─So this is just another case of "lawsuit lotto" by a dumbass that doesn't understand even the most basic of hardware design.
[14:35:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:Initial thoughts - 06AMD Sued by Customer Over Misrepresentation of "Multicore" - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:35:37] <exec> 08└─run LINPACK. Very hard to hide maths capability if there is none...
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[14:36:43] <exec> 08└─if you want to print money you have to "produce" something first ... as a placeholder so to speak. so you make bombs and stuff. but if they just sit in warehouses, people are going to complain "why make bombs if they're not used?" like making small balls of mud and then assigning them a value, like...
[14:39:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:Shake My Head - 06Colorado Voters Abolish Ban on Government-Owned Broadband - 884 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:39:18] <exec> 08└─It is really hard not to see lobbying as simple bribery. And allowing companies (or rich folks) access to a politician while in office, is in appropriate. However, 1st amendment compliance could still work, just so long as it was put on record what was being lobbied for, and some public redress was...
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[15:33:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Concrete - 06Thin Walls With Potentially Fatal Consequences - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:31] <exec> 08└─... and people make fun of us Americans for building houses out of wood. Wood doesn't crack and crumble in earthquakes. Sure, it has problems with termites if you don't build it properly and keep it maintained, but that's a lot better than all your buildings collapsing in a small earthquake.
[15:33:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Concrete - 06Thin Walls With Potentially Fatal Consequences - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:33:32] <exec> 08└─Houses should be built out of nothing but tinfoil.
[15:33:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Intimacy vs Sex - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 906 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:33:50] <exec> 08└─I love my linux, my gnu, my arch, my i3wm... i'm not much good with people: my wife doesn't understand me half the time, some people just ANNOY the HELLL out of me. My 'setup' (dual monitor) and i get along wonderfully. Do i have an intimate relationship with my 'setup'? It doesn't wear a blue dress...
[15:33:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Sounds great - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:52] <exec> 08└─Until the robot starts saying things like, "Isn't it about you painted the house?"
[15:34:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Engineer? - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:34:07] <exec> 08└─(for instance, using "piracy" to refer to copyright infringement), we can fight back by not using it that way
[15:34:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Stop telling me what to do. - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 490 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:34:10] <exec> 08└─The people behind companies like Facebook have made billions of dollars, so there's obviously something wrong with the European mindset there. The Americans have figured out that you can make tons of money by creating new and silly ways for people to waste their time online, and since so many people...
[15:34:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Stop telling me what to do. - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 607 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:34:12] <exec> 08└─You're as much of an engineer as most engineers. Maybe not most, but high rise buildings and warehouses usually have "engineers." They aren't actual engineers, I doubt that any of them actually have a degree in engineering and the requisite background to do any actual engineering work. But, for what...
[15:34:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03McD [540] (Score:1) 02Re:Not This Debate Again - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:34:18] <exec> 08└─You forgot "vi vs emacs", you insensitive clod!
[15:34:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not This Debate Again - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:34:19] <exec> 08└─i i think you're forgetthing the best editor of them all! . w protip: it's ed 56 q
[15:34:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Labor - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 616 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:24] <exec> 08└─You're an hourly laborer, but we've decided to salary you to get 50 hours a week of work for 40 hours of pay, so the least prestigious job title the state dept o labor will tolerate salary work is "engineer" So now you are an engineer. That was my exact experience about 25 years ago. Ironically I ha...
[15:34:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Dice says we're engineers - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:26] <exec> 08└─It's in the job title in all the ads on any job board. Practice takes theory into account, and then turns and says "Now fuck off" when it gets in the way of getting stuff done.
[15:34:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Real engineers - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:27] <exec> 08└─Hey guys who passed math in high school, don't call yourself engineers. Every five-year-old knows the real engineers are the guys that the drive train. Just because you wish you had a cool job is no excuse for giving guys with a real job a bad name.
[15:34:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:Entirely different topic - 06Email Firm Pays Web Attack Ransom - 673 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:34:35] <exec> 08└─I'm pretty sure that the article got the type wrong. I'm not sure anybody does those sorts of attacks any more because you can just stutter the response and use a fraction of a percent of the resources that the attacker is burning through. Something like that isn't terribly sustainable. It's going t...
[15:34:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrpg [5708] (Score:1) 02Re:Fund raising? - 06Email Firm Pays Web Attack Ransom - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:34:38] <exec> 08└─No, the money is to pay for DDoS countermeasures. "In order to defend against future attacks of this scale, we will need to utilize top-of-the-line solutions"
[15:34:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrpg [5708] (Score:1) 02And more - 06Email Firm Pays Web Attack Ransom - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:42] <exec> 08└─And neomailbox and runbox and vfemail https://twitter.com [twitter.com] https://blog.runbox.com [runbox.com] https://twitter.com [twitter.com]
[15:35:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How is that worse than it is now? - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:35:08] <exec> 08└─Capitalism has nothing to do with markets in any way or form. Capitalism refers to private ownership of the means of production, and literally nothing else.
[15:35:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How is that worse than it is now? - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:35:11] <exec> 08└─only the US where left-wing extremists have taken over
[15:35:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Binds countries, not citizens - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 519 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:35:33] <exec> 08└─Bullshit. I agree with your interpretation of the language (it binds governments, not citizens), but it's not a good thing. If a government wants to require a foreign company to provide its source code in order to sell their software within that country, that's their sovereign right. China would be...
[15:35:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:TPP is just a small piece of a bigger puzzle... - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:35:35] <exec> 08└─Companies have been bailing out of the country since NAFTA, regulations have little to do with it.
[15:35:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:gift from above - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:35:46] <exec> 08└─You know? That truck that the simulation ihknre nothing sd the moment od s9mulstuin.
[15:35:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Does this ban requiring FLOSS? - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:50] <exec> 08└─Is a signatory government requiring that some or all software that that government uses be FLOSS banned under this? It would seem that requiring some or all government used software to be FLOSS is also, indirectly, requiring that the source be accessible.
[15:36:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:If it has half the number of cores... - 06AMD Sued by Customer Over Misrepresentation of "Multicore" - 1735 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:36:03] <exec> 08└─I keep a foot in every camp-- in the PC world. (Don't use Macs, but do have a few ARM computers, a Beaglebone and a smartphone, and keep thinking about getting a Raspberry Pi.) When one of these hardware vendors finally releases an open source graphics driver for Linux (or FreeBSD, I'm not picky) wi...
[15:36:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02Transcoding might use more FPU - 06AMD Sued by Customer Over Misrepresentation of "Multicore" - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:36:07] <exec> 08└─Most of the work done in server situations is integer math, (well, most of it is just byte slinging hither and yon).
[15:36:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02Monitoring may see Hyper-Threading as 2 cores - 06AMD Sued by Customer Over Misrepresentation of "Multicore" - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:36:13] <exec> 08└─An Atom N450 CPU has 1 core and 2 threads in a similar setup, branded "Hyper-Threading Technology" by Intel. The monitoring programs shipped with Xubuntu (top, Xfce4 Task Manager, and Xfce4 CPU Graph Plugin) see it as two cores.
[15:36:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:So they were hyperthreaded? - 06AMD Sued by Customer Over Misrepresentation of "Multicore" - 3966 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:36:24] <exec> 08└─No - I don't think they did that, but I remember they released a compiler that crippled code when it ran on an AMD processor. That is one of the reasons I don't do Intel. * Intel Forced to Remove "Cripple AMD" Function from Compiler? posted by Thom Holwerda on Sun 3rd Jan 2010 20:32 UTC IconHere's...
[15:36:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not that I am a fan of Intel but.... - 06AMD Sued by Customer Over Misrepresentation of "Multicore" - 641 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:36:25] <exec> 08└─I can find valid reasons to default to low levels of optimization on another product vs one that is produced by the compiler vendor and if it is documented this isn't inherently a bad thing. It is bad to cheat and lie, it is not bad to clearly state you will optimize conservatively for an architectu...
[15:36:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lemmee see if I got this right - 06Study Finds Banning E-Cigarette Sales to Minors Spurs Conventional Smoking - 934 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:36:44] <exec> 08└─The issue here is that they are ignorant, often willfully, of the long-term damages caused by ingesting such substances while still developing. Legally children do not own their own bodies until they are 18, their parents are responsible for them and must consent to any surgeries, piercings, tattoos...
[15:36:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lemmee see if I got this right - 06Study Finds Banning E-Cigarette Sales to Minors Spurs Conventional Smoking - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:36:48] <exec> 08└─"Illegal" isn't the same as "illegal while under 18". Its a lot easier for highschoolers to get cocaine and heroin - fully illegal substances - than alcohol - illegal while under 21. "Regulated to prevent sales to minors" != "illegal".
[15:37:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:What about current efforts to undermine? - 06NY Attorney General Investigating ExxonMobil Over "Climate Change Lies" - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:37:55] <exec> 08└─Gov't agencies? Better funded than the petroleum industry? I'mma bustagut laughing....
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[16:33:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:Concrete - 06Thin Walls With Potentially Fatal Consequences - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:33:34] <exec> 08└─Fires. Wood has problems with that too. Any building material can be reduced and cheapened so that it can stand in good conditions but will collapse the moment some disaster strikes.
[16:33:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02From 20+ years ago... - 06Thin Walls With Potentially Fatal Consequences - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:33:35] <exec> 08└─A guy in Southern California had his house built with double thickness construction, walls, double studs, roof, etc. He wanted it to survive an earthquake but when one hit it still had major damage. Couldn't find the news article about it, too old of a story.
[16:33:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Sounds great - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:33:56] <exec> 08└─Indeed that #fdfef0 on the walk looks terribly dated
[16:33:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02what's to fear here exactly? - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 1190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:33:57] <exec> 08└─What exactly are the anti-sex robot crowd afraid of? That people will prefer robots to each other, and we'll stop having children, and go extinct? Or, that we'll stop caring about each other, which will lead to wars, and we'll go extinct that way? Is it that sex should remain mysterious until marria...
[16:33:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:what's to fear here exactly? - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:33:59] <exec> 08└─I think one concern is that if machine intelligence advances enough, robots will have rights. If that is the case, having sex with a "dumb" robot may be considered rape since they can not consent.
[16:34:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:what's to fear here exactly? - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:34:01] <exec> 08└─Then the robots might prefer each other and exchange genetic information when they mate. Uh oh, I just gave away the big idea for my screenplay.
[16:34:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:goals? - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:34:12] <exec> 08└─Trademarks are actually useful: they are designed to reduce confusion in the marketplace. If real engineers do not push back on this, the term will become generic.
[16:34:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Engineer? - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:34:19] <exec> 08└─Then they are being foolish. [gnu.org] I've even seen some refer to it as "theft". What they don't realize is that they are helping spread propaganda. It's also not about being upset, but about rejecting uses of words that cause confusion and spread emotional propaganda.
[16:34:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Stop telling me what to do. - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:34:23] <exec> 08└─The people behind companies like Facebook have made billions of dollars, so there's obviously something wrong with the European mindset there.
[16:34:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Not This Debate Again - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:34:31] <exec> 08└─M-x mock-dude-with-bronze^Wstone-club-brandished^Wembedded-in-arm^Wforehead M-x dump-verbiage-emacs-is-best
[16:34:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not This Debate Again - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 1 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:34:32] <exec> 08└─?
[16:34:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] (Score:2) 02Re:Difference between SW engineering and programmi - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 1060 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:34:35] <exec> 08└─I disagree with the "sometimes proof of correctness". Even though it is uncommon, I'd say that only those few software developers who use proof of correctness can be called engineers. The standard of engineering is that an engineer knows his design will work before implementing it. Anyone who has to...
[16:35:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No - 06Unlocking the Mysteries of 'Little Starlets' - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:35:06] <exec> 08└─Nothing [wikipedia.org]
[16:35:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How is that worse than it is now? - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:35:26] <exec> 08└─if you really think TPP is the work of socialist you are stupid and ignorant, go away
[16:35:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Re:Binds countries, not citizens - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:35:37] <exec> 08└─Seeking redress for contract breach through the judicial system does not magically make a commercial, contractual obligation into a government one. The GPL is still just as enforceable as any other software license.
[16:36:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02Re:Costumer though? - 06AMD Sued by Customer Over Misrepresentation of "Multicore" - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:36:34] <exec> 08└─costumers would presumably work on Broadway, or in Hollywood.
[16:37:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:Logic fail - 06Study Finds Banning E-Cigarette Sales to Minors Spurs Conventional Smoking - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:37:11] <exec> 08└─all ages? childhood and teenage is where almost everyone starts smoking, once you make it past teenage you're pretty much guaranteed to not be a smoker. [gizmodo.com]
[16:37:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Logic fail - 06Study Finds Banning E-Cigarette Sales to Minors Spurs Conventional Smoking - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:37:16] <exec> 08└─Actually, ecigs are considerably less addictive than cigarettes.
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[17:33:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02210 soccer fields - 06Driverless Cars Will Change the Way We Think of Car Ownership - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:31] <exec> 08└─Is there a direct conversion to American units? How many baseball fields is that? Or, football fields?
[17:33:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:210 soccer fields - 06Driverless Cars Will Change the Way We Think of Car Ownership - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:33:32] <exec> 08└─A standard international game soccer field has 7140 square meters. An American football field has an area of 5320.45 square meters. Thus one soccer field is about 1.342 American football fields. 210 soccer fields are therefore 281.8 American football fields.
[17:33:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:210 soccer fields - 06Driverless Cars Will Change the Way We Think of Car Ownership - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:33:34] <exec> 08└─That's a good sized paddock then!
[17:33:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02And only self-driving vehicles - 06Driverless Cars Will Change the Way We Think of Car Ownership - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:36] <exec> 08└─the driverless vehicles could still be turned into a major positive in the fight against air pollution if they were all-electric.
[17:33:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:And only self-driving vehicles - 06Driverless Cars Will Change the Way We Think of Car Ownership - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:33:37] <exec> 08└─Reading that part stopped me in my tracks too. "Driverless" and "Electric" are orthogonal characteristics. It is an example of someone trying to push a weak argument by seizing (or rather appearing to seize) some high moral ground to associate with his case, even though it really has nothing to do w...
[17:33:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02More proprietary software - 06Driverless Cars Will Change the Way We Think of Car Ownership - 424 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:39] <exec> 08└─People seem to be drinking up all the kool-aid about these driverless cars without considering what these companies (and also likely the government) will inevitably push on you: Privacy-invading 'features', digital restrictions management, and proprietary software. We must reject cars that do not ru...
[17:33:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02"underutilized capital" - 06Driverless Cars Will Change the Way We Think of Car Ownership - 712 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:41] <exec> 08└─Individuals are finding it difficult to justify tying up capital in an under-utilised asset that stays idle for 20 to 22 hours every day. Driverless on-demand shared vehicles provide a sensible option as a second car for many people and as the trend becomes more widespread, it may also begin to chal...
[17:33:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Concrete - 06Thin Walls With Potentially Fatal Consequences - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:33:50] <exec> 08└─Poorly designed wood frame construction can easily be just as bad as poor concrete construction. What matters is the engineering. This is a story about builders going with cheap aka poor engineering to save money as TFA said the buildings that collapsed were not up to code.
[17:33:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:From 20+ years ago... - 06Thin Walls With Potentially Fatal Consequences - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:33:52] <exec> 08└─Well, I guess he didn't consult an earthquake-safe building expert, but just thought "if I make everything thicker, I should be safe".
[17:33:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 023 inches? - 06Thin Walls With Potentially Fatal Consequences - 1771 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:54] <exec> 08└─Sorry, but 3 inches of concrete isn't "concrete" to me. Slabs start at 6 inches, and go up from there. Walls, roofs, floors, you name it - if it's not 6 inches thick, it's not worth messing with. First or third world countries, it doesn't much matter - cheap bastards go cheap, and quality work is st...
[17:34:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:what's to fear here exactly? - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:34:17] <exec> 08└─Well the female ones are afraid that when it comes between their lackluster personality vs a sex robot a man might take the robot over their harpy attitude.
[17:34:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Stop telling me what to do. - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:34:40] <exec> 08└─>coerced into it Oh really? I think most of fagbooks users are coerced into it through social manipulation. In the US, employers, potential friends, mates, etc all use fbook to 'vet' you. If you don't have a profile, many people consider that a red flag.
[17:34:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:I've called myself a programmer since... - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:34:54] <exec> 08└─It was actually Ken Thompson [bell-labs.co] who said this in the introduction to Reflections on Reflecting Trust [cmu.edu], the famous 'compiler attack' paper. I am a programmer. On my 1040 form, that is what I put down as my occupation. As a programmer, I write programs. I would like to present to...
[17:34:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I've called myself a programmer since... - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:34:55] <exec> 08└─s/Reflecting/Trusting/ I need to learn how to read!
[17:36:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03zugedneb [4556] (Score:2) 02Re:gift from above - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 1086 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:36:24] <exec> 08└─Look, it is not that complicated. I have not until now seen change for rational reasons. It went something like this: people wanted Iphones -> better signal processors and better monitor manufacturing technology... people torrent crap -> more research into harddrives... people want electric cars ->...
[17:36:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03zugedneb [4556] (Score:2) 02Re:gift from above - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:36:27] <exec> 08└─What the internet is is a massive worldwide data routing infrastructure with standardized open protocols.
[17:37:49] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03deadstick [5110] 02Re:Highly-challenged Krauts... - 06Lower Austria Goes All-Renewable - 278 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:37:49] <exec> 08└─I bought a T-shirt in Salzburg that proclaimed NO KANGAROOS IN AUSTRIA over a picture of cows dancing on an Alpine mountainside, on their hind feet, holding calves in belly pouches. Sadly, it was cheap and crappy and didn't last long. But I'll never forget those Mozartkugeln...
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[18:33:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:2) 02Re:210 soccer fields - 06Driverless Cars Will Change the Way We Think of Car Ownership - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:33:40] <exec> 08└─210 Soccer fields = 12 library of congresses
[18:33:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:"underutilized capital" - 06Driverless Cars Will Change the Way We Think of Car Ownership - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:33:45] <exec> 08└─we can drop car usage by a factor of three
[18:33:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Zipcar - 06Driverless Cars Will Change the Way We Think of Car Ownership - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:47] <exec> 08└─That's already an established precedent for a car sharing service. Avis bought them out a few years ago. Google for the yelp reviews... they're not looking too good. That's one big reason for owning your own car. You don't have to hassle with yet another utility company.
[18:33:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02Re:Zipcar - 06Driverless Cars Will Change the Way We Think of Car Ownership - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:33:49] <exec> 08└─Besides after afew years the price for the car service will be just slightly under buying your own car...always happens.
[18:33:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Optimism Out-of-Contol - 06Driverless Cars Will Change the Way We Think of Car Ownership - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:50] <exec> 08└─Don't know where to begin debunking this puff. But here's some : driverless cars is still several years away
[18:34:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Concrete - 06Thin Walls With Potentially Fatal Consequences - 710 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:34:01] <exec> 08└─Concrete buildings burn just like wooden ones. So does steel. You've never heard of fires on ships, or in commercial buildings? The problem with concrete is that it's ridiculously brittle, and falls apart as soon as there's any kind of earth movement. So why do people in these countries keep buildin...
[18:34:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Mind your own business - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 409 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:34:17] <exec> 08└─The quote is very telling: "because if people feel they can have an intimate relationship with a machine, that is saying something serious about how we're experiencing empathy with each other". In other words, some people's action would be "saying" something Ms. Richardson does not like to hear, so...
[18:34:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fear of competition - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:34:22] <exec> 08└─I'll buy one. The amount of sex I get for the tens of thousands I pay for upkeep of the medical issues and insurance issues and oh no work was hard issues and oh no kids are in the lawn issue and... I wouldn't want to say fuck that because she says no anyway.
[18:34:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:what's to fear here exactly? - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:34:32] <exec> 08└─and does this battery make me look fat? :)
[18:34:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:what's to fear here exactly? - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:34:34] <exec> 08└─What exactly are the anti-sex robot crowd afraid of?
[18:34:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What If Your Sexbots Aren't Satisfied? - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:36] <exec> 08└─I can see it now. Sexbots running breeding programs to produce humans that they find more desirable. What could possibly go wrong?
[18:34:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Stop telling me what to do. - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 468 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:34:57] <exec> 08└─Making billions of dollars shows what people, as a group, value most. The Mafia makes lots of money because there's a huge demand for things which some smaller group of people have deemed "bad", namely alcoholic beverages. By saying that making billions of dollars isn't a very good goal to strive fo...
[18:34:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03BasilBrush [3994] (Score:2) 02Re:Stop telling me what to do. - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:34:59] <exec> 08└─When I rarely come across someone who's not on Facebook, I tend to think they are either technophobes or anti-social. These days It's rather like not having a telephone. You miss out on a lot of what's happening in your larger real world social circles. Lots of people here and on slashdot pour scorn...
[18:35:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheLink [332] (Score:2) 02Re:Difference between SW engineering and programmi - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:35:12] <exec> 08└─It would be like building a bridge, having someone drive over, and seeing if it crashes. No person who did that should call himself an engineer. The "hope and pray" method isn't good enough.
[18:35:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheLink [332] (Score:2) 02Re:Difference between SW engineering and programmi - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:35:13] <exec> 08└─On a less serious note- I bet in too many cases the "requirements gathering" ends up a bit like this: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] :p
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[19:33:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03snufu [5855] (Score:1) 02The US Secretary of State has replied on Twitter - 06Israel 'To Review' Top Appointment after Facebook Controversy - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:31] <exec> 08└─"My feels...I can't even."
[19:33:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02'Lurch' has a mental age of 12? - 06Israel 'To Review' Top Appointment after Facebook Controversy - 1103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:32] <exec> 08└─Wow, he thinks that 'Lurch' (think Addams Family) has a mental age of 12? I wouldn't have been that generous. Kerry is a useful idiot. Look at his recent, um, discussions with Russia. He's useless, the administration doesn't even bother to inform him of what they're planning. He shows up, puts his f...
[19:33:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:'Lurch' has a mental age of 12? - 06Israel 'To Review' Top Appointment after Facebook Controversy - 633 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:33:33] <exec> 08└─That is exactly the reason why I slam Israelites. Because with the exception of one single non-practicing crypto-Jew, every Jewish person I've met in my entire life has behaved that way. Arrogant, condescending, penny-pinching, showing contempt for the Goyim, generally prickly people who are unpleas...
[19:33:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02You know what I like about the parliamentary sys? - 06Israel 'To Review' Top Appointment after Facebook Controversy - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:35] <exec> 08└─I voted knowing full well he'll lose the Prime Ministry. I just wanted him to get into the Ministry of Finance and sort through the corruption. As for everyone else in office... Well, if-you-don't-have-something-nice-to-say...
[19:33:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Username [4557] (Score:2) 02Pot and Kettle - 06Israel 'To Review' Top Appointment after Facebook Controversy - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:37] <exec> 08└─This coming from the guy who blames the Palestinians for the holocaust.
[19:33:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:"underutilized capital" - 06Driverless Cars Will Change the Way We Think of Car Ownership - 534 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:33:52] <exec> 08└─It's been that way forever. Gugo Gernsback mentioned it in his 1926 futurist essay Fifty Years from Now [mcgrewbooks.com]. In all our large cities transportation has become well nigh intolerable. It seems that it will be necessary to have streets arranged in such a way that the various traffics can...
[19:33:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheLink [332] (Score:2) 02Re:Optimism Out-of-Contol - 06Driverless Cars Will Change the Way We Think of Car Ownership - 1851 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:33:57] <exec> 08└─I agree that driverless cars are many years away (just imagine the liability issues- Toyota gets sued or the driver?). Where I see the "driverless" tech starting off first is in trucking, not in normal passenger cars or taxis or even buses. It's far easier to have "robot" trucks do only the "robot f...
[19:33:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Optimism Out-of-Contol - 06Driverless Cars Will Change the Way We Think of Car Ownership - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:33:58] <exec> 08└─Tesla's cars are far from dinky, and they have one out now that's almost driverless.
[19:34:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Concrete - 06Thin Walls With Potentially Fatal Consequences - 1142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:34:10] <exec> 08└─No, concrete buildings do not burn the way wooden buildings do, they burn differently. In two story buildings I believe that the chance of a fire causing the building to collapse is trivial, e.g. Once you get a large chimney effect going, of course, things are different, but the stond of the wall wi...
[19:34:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:"I'm lovin' it" - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:34:32] <exec> 08└─250 yo dildo: http://www.news.com.au [news.com.au] 4k-6k yo dildo: http://www.livescience.com [livescience.com] 28k yo dildo: http...
[19:34:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Fear of competition - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 1144 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:34] <exec> 08└─A question to men: What ratio of men do you think would bother to date women if sex bots were available at an affordable price, say, the price of an expensive PC? How many men would buy one at home as soon as he moved out of his family's house? Note that I am NOT trying to say no one would get marri...
[19:34:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:what's to fear here exactly? - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:34:43] <exec> 08└─Just call it R.U.R.
[19:34:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:what's to fear here exactly? - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 717 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:34:48] <exec> 08└─Oh, the problem is that someone can't hold power over you for having pleasurable sex with someone, in or out of marriage. That someone typically being robed men of some kind, preferably also of their belief system. It is easier to oppress if the message is the same to all of those being oppressed. O...
[19:35:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Engineer? - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 2622 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:35:07] <exec> 08└─I programmed for over thirty years and never considered myself an engineer. The difference between programmer and engineer is illustrated by something I wrote back in 2002: “Hey, you got a new car! Pretty nice! I see you're sticking with the same manufacturer.” “Well,...
[19:35:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geotti [1146] (Score:2) 02Re:Stop telling me what to do. - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:35:16] <exec> 08└─Maybe we should adapt the term "software mechanic" sounds right to me in many cases.
[19:35:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I Have More Right to Call Myself an Engineer .. - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:35:34] <exec> 08└─What is your point. Personal gloating, an admission of ignorance, then accusing other people of ignorance. Are you sure you got your degree from an accredited institution? I'd expect any worthwhile school to teach analysis and applying critical thinking to rhetoric, yet your post has neither.
[19:35:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Real engineers - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:35:38] <exec> 08└─What if I am allowed to blow the train whistle?, but still don't get to invite comely passengers to check out the kaboose?
[19:35:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03zugedneb [4556] (Score:2) 02a sanity check programmer can't do - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 1129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:40] <exec> 08└─A classical engineer, when he comes up with an idea, can easily do a sanity check on himself by: making simulation, reading up on the materials he will use, using various methods to test his mathematical model and than maybe constructing a more accurate mathematical model... A programmer can not do...
[19:35:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:a sanity check programmer can't do - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:35:42] <exec> 08└─It's called a unit test.
[19:35:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geotti [1146] (Score:2) 02Systems Engineering - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:44] <exec> 08└─"the industry manages to agree on standards of quality and accountability" They often loose their job or pay a huge fine, if they don't deliver the right blueprint for the code mo^Hechanics to implement.
[19:35:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:And more - 06Email Firm Pays Web Attack Ransom - 636 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:35:58] <exec> 08└─So the big news, not reported on any mainstream news network, is that multiple providers of security enhanced email services have been targetted with sophisticated DDOS attacks - to the extent that some may be forced to stop operating as other companies using the same ISPs don't like the downtime th...
[19:36:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:How is that worse than it is now? - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:36:31] <exec> 08└─Perhaps by socialist he means companies supported by the government. That was the only way I could make sense out of the post.
[19:36:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:Binds countries, not citizens - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:36:55] <exec> 08└─The clause is bad because it could be interpreted as preventing a country from passing laws and safety regulation requiring open source for communication equipment, banking or medical equipment in the private sector. That's to say, "critical" needs classification.
[19:37:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03zugedneb [4556] (Score:2) 02Re:Not that I am a fan of Intel but.... - 06AMD Sued by Customer Over Misrepresentation of "Multicore" - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:37:50] <exec> 08└─I can find valid reasons...
[19:38:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Wow. Not. - 06Lower Austria Goes All-Renewable - 393 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:38:42] <exec> 08└─Not everywhere is suitable for solar. Austria may have LOTS of bad weather. My real doubts about this center on the large hydorelectric contribution. I wonder how much of that is dependent on the Alps snowpack...and how secure that snowpack is. California used to have a good snowpack, but it's been...
[19:38:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03UncleSlacky [2859] (Score:1) 02Re:I spent some time there recently... - 06Lower Austria Goes All-Renewable - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:38:54] <exec> 08└─And of course that's only for altruistic reasons...
[19:39:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Climate Change" - 06NY Attorney General Investigating ExxonMobil Over "Climate Change Lies" - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:39:11] <exec> 08└─No, it's global warming you are referring to. It is the republican party with their conservative wordsmiths that came out with "Climate Change". If you are going to diss the big government, make sure you don't mind losing a few windows in your glass house, because your stones are gonna break them.
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[20:33:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03BigotDetectorGoesBing! [5877] (Score:0, Redundant) 02Re:'Lurch' has a mental age of 12? - 06Israel 'To Review' Top Appointment after Facebook Controversy - 5 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:33:39] <exec> 08└─Bing!
[20:33:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:'Lurch' has a mental age of 12? - 06Israel 'To Review' Top Appointment after Facebook Controversy - 550 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:33:40] <exec> 08└─What a narcissist you must be to think anybody gives enough of a damn about your off-topic rant about Kerry and Obama to make it worth the effort of posting. You've said exactly zero about the story and exactly zero about Kerry or Obama, all you've done is reveal how shallow you are. This story is a...
[20:33:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:You know what I like about the parliamentary sy - 06Israel 'To Review' Top Appointment after Facebook Controversy - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:33:43] <exec> 08└─"he'll" referring to this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] I should really check those URLs ;)
[20:33:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02BTS - 06Israel 'To Review' Top Appointment after Facebook Controversy - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:46] <exec> 08└─Shortly after the thing blew up on the media, Baratz texted Netanyahu with the words: "Too soon?" Anyway I came here to make an Italian joke: Situazione inBaratzante.
[20:34:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:More proprietary software - 06Driverless Cars Will Change the Way We Think of Car Ownership - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:34:01] <exec> 08└─Sure. But given that 99% of the cars out there run non-free software, 99% of people will ignore you. No amount of convenience or shiny things are worth sacrificing freedoms for. Patrick Henry once said "Give me liberty or give me shiny things", then we got the iphone.
[20:34:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Max Hyre [3427] (Score:2) 02Privacy is the app-killer - 06Driverless Cars Will Change the Way We Think of Car Ownership - 650 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:34:02] <exec> 08└─At least for me. I won't have an EZ-pass [wikipedia.org] because the government has no need to know when I make a trip on a toll road. I've even worked out routes around the toll points that have no cash lane. So, how much less do I want a car that reports every trip I make, in detail, to some corp...
[20:34:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score:2) 02Re:Optimism Out-of-Contol - 06Driverless Cars Will Change the Way We Think of Car Ownership - 1064 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:34:10] <exec> 08└─People have some really fantastic ideas about how they think these driverless cars will work. They seem to think that some magic "AI" will drive visually just like a human, or better. Nope. You are basically putting them on an electronic equivalent of railroad track with a few sensors to prevent col...
[20:34:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Optimism Out-of-Contol - 06Driverless Cars Will Change the Way We Think of Car Ownership - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:34:13] <exec> 08└─Actually driverless cars are already there now. Indeed most of the cars are driverless most of the time. It's just that usually the driverless cars don't move, and if they do, it's because someone forgot to put in the brake. ;-)
[20:34:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Mind your own business - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:34:44] <exec> 08└─But where does it stop? Sex with inanimate objects? Sex with dead pigs head? Sex with someone of the same sex? Only ONE of these is authorised by the right wing
[20:34:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Fear of competition - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:34:50] <exec> 08└─Right. And you can go outside and pick a stick up from the ground and play war pretending that it is rifle and yelling "da-da-da-da-da-da-da" at your friend and hoping he falls down. Why would first-person-shooter video games ever make nickel when everyone has access to sticks for free and most peop...
[20:34:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fear of competition - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:34:51] <exec> 08└─Because the real world is ugly and boring, which is the same reason that I simply masturbate. Just as I am not sexually attracted to garbage cans, I am not sexually attracted to real people.
[20:34:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fear of competition - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:34:53] <exec> 08└─Wha?? Off on a tangent we go!!!
[20:34:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Fear of competition - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:34:55] <exec> 08└─Where do you live? I would like to request the police and/or child welfare to drop by to check out your "kids are in the lawn".
[20:34:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Fear of competition - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:34:57] <exec> 08└─What ratio of men do you think would bother to date women if sex bots were available at an affordable price, say, the price of an expensive PC?
[20:34:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fear of competition - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:34:59] <exec> 08└─What does marriage have to do with anything? I can be in a lifelong relationship with someone without ever getting married. Marriage is some dumb social ritual with magical thinking and undeserved legal benefits attached to it; nothing more. It has little to do with love. Until now, all the porn an...
[20:34:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Fear of competition - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:35:00] <exec> 08└─How sad your life may be if the only women you know are the ones that use looks and bitchyness. Maybe when you leave high school things will get better, perhaps a good start would be for you to start thinking of women as people rather than "things to have sex with".
[20:35:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fear of competition - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:35:02] <exec> 08└─But what if someone isn't interested in relationships and are only interested in sex? That is just their preference and doesn't mean they view others only as objects.
[20:35:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Intimacy vs Sex - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:35:04] <exec> 08└─People also don't always have sex with people they are intimate with, unless they have a fetish for incest.
[20:35:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Pygmalion - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 1316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:15] <exec> 08└─This is a very old issue. On Cyprus in ancient times, a guy named Pygmalion carved a "perfect woman" out of ivory, after he had bad experience with promiscuous women reviewing his video game. He prayed to Aphrodite, and she turned the statue into a real woman. George Bernard Shaw's play of the same...
[20:36:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I Have More Right to Call Myself an Engineer .. - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:36:01] <exec> 08└─Well, I'm a Ph.-fucking-D. physicist, and you "engineers" are a bunch of poser calculator monkeys.
[20:36:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I Have More Right to Call Myself an Engineer .. - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 535 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:36:03] <exec> 08└─>Neither do you. Ah... no, I do. I was a professional engineer who switched to software development. I know what real engineering is and I know what kind of crap is produced by most programmers. There is no comparison, no matter what most programmers seem to think. Software development is not engine...
[20:36:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02And while we're at it . . . - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:11] <exec> 08└─Physicians stop calling yourselves "doctors", and chiropractors stop calling yourself either, and statisticians stop calling yourselves mathematicians
[20:36:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Disappointed - 06Email Firm Pays Web Attack Ransom - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:28] <exec> 08└─As a ProtonMail user, I'm disappointed my donation went into the hands of botnet operators. I can't fathom how someone can gain anything by attacking one of the few glimmers of hope we have in email service providers.
[20:39:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03angelosphere [5088] (Score:1) 02Re:Wow. Not. - 06Lower Austria Goes All-Renewable - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:39:13] <exec> 08└─The alps are losing their glaciers rapidedly as well. Plenty skiing resourts have closed years ago already.
[20:39:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03angelosphere [5088] (Score:1) 02Re:I spent some time there recently... - 06Lower Austria Goes All-Renewable - 1180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:39:22] <exec> 08└─Around WW I, every nation wanted to be a military super power with colonies in Africa and Asia. UK, France, Germany, Italy, Spaint to a certain extend, Japan, USA, Russia .... After WW I, Germany was eliminated from that equation. Well, not soroughfully enough, so had WW II. And now after WW II, how...
[20:39:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03angelosphere [5088] (Score:1) 02Re:I spent some time there recently... - 06Lower Austria Goes All-Renewable - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:39:28] <exec> 08└─Austria has no free health care. It is an health insurance based system like in most of Europe.
[20:39:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03angelosphere [5088] (Score:1) 02Re:70s Climate Excitement Was on Global Cooling - 06NY Attorney General Investigating ExxonMobil Over "Climate Change Lies" - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:39:54] <exec> 08└─The last 10.000 years we had no global cooloing. Only a few unexplained (3 I believe) short warm periods of a few 100 years.
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[21:33:32] <exec> 08└─Awesome video.
[21:33:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:'Lurch' has a mental age of 12? - 06Israel 'To Review' Top Appointment after Facebook Controversy - 724 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:33:45] <exec> 08└─I used to think that Google was the greatest search engine in existence, and that Bing was just an inferior knockoff. But one day, I decided to give Bing a try, and with it, I found a cure for my own lung cancer as well a method to make millions of dollars in minutes. Bing saved my life in less than...
[21:33:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score:2) 02Re:'Lurch' has a mental age of 12? - 06Israel 'To Review' Top Appointment after Facebook Controversy - 757 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:33:47] <exec> 08└─Odd, I would have thought someone in charge of communications should be specialized in rather the opposite of keeping their mouth shut. In seriousness, while I don't agree with everything in the GP post I do believe it's entirely appropriate to discuss both Kerry and Obama in light of the comments m...
[21:33:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:'Lurch' has a mental age of 12? - 06Israel 'To Review' Top Appointment after Facebook Controversy - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:33:48] <exec> 08└─Move to Israel you love so much.
[21:33:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Cut it off - 06Israel 'To Review' Top Appointment after Facebook Controversy - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:54] <exec> 08└─The US must cut its tie with Israel. Fifth column AIPAC can move to Russia.
[21:33:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Oh my god not an anti-semite!! - 06Israel 'To Review' Top Appointment after Facebook Controversy - 608 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:56] <exec> 08└─I'm starting to tune out any time anyone is publicly called Anti-Semitic because it seems like there's such a low bar for it. Disagree with any public policy of Israel? Anti-Semite! Do anything but apologize profusely and loudly for the Holocaust? Anti-Semite! Someone being called Anti-Semitic surpr...
[21:34:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Re:Mind your own business - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:34:54] <exec> 08└─Exactly, this should be an individual freedom that's nobody else's business. Besides, this is something for people that don't want a meaningful relationship with a partner, or to have a family and raise children. So those things are left to people who actually choose to live like that. I can only se...
[21:35:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Pygmalion - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:35:24] <exec> 08└─not to mention Pinnoccio who became a real boy
[21:36:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:a sanity check programmer can't do - 06Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:36:20] <exec> 08└─You didn't understand anything the previous poster wrote. Unit test is not a sanity check, it's a test of the product. A sanity check confirms the design, not the product. It verifies the intended result _before_ you shell out lots of time and money on building anything. Engineers still do testing _...
[21:37:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alias [2825] (Score:1) 02Re:How is that worse than it is now? - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 1336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:37:20] <exec> 08└─Just because the TPP is a "trade agreement" does not mean that it only has an impact at the country level. There is a section in the TPP that specifically allows entities to sue governments for loss of profits. Imagine the following scenario: Microsoft rampantly violates the GPL. Joe Blow, author o...
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[22:33:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:'Lurch' has a mental age of 12? - 06Israel 'To Review' Top Appointment after Facebook Controversy - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:33:52] <exec> 08└─I think you'd enjoy Mark Twain's The Innocents Abroad. Well, I'd surely enjoy reading your impressions of it :D
[22:34:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Recharge - 06Driverless Cars Will Change the Way We Think of Car Ownership - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:29] <exec> 08└─These driverless cars are motionless for 75% of the time because they have to be recharged. Car sharing will end up just as public transport, not where you are, not where you want to go, not when you want to go. I'd rather stick to my own car instead of sticking to someone else's dirt.
[22:35:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Mind your own business - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 2465 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:35:01] <exec> 08└─Many people might say that empathy itself is very fleeing, almost an illusion. For ethics what matters for more than empathy (how you feel) is behavior (how you act). How do you treat people? Do you force them to engage in things they are not enthusiastic about? If they aren't enthusiastic about wha...
[22:35:14] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:Fear of competition - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 143 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:35:14] <exec> 08└─What ratio of men do you think would bother to date women if sex bots were available at an affordable price, say, the price of an expensive PC?
[22:35:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:what's to fear here exactly? - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:35:31] <exec> 08└─What exactly are the anti-sex robot crowd afraid of?
[22:35:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Pygmalion - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:35:36] <exec> 08└─That's why I said not to mention it.
[22:35:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02earlier stories - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:37] <exec> 08└─/article.pl?sid=15/09/16/1740201 [soylentnews.org] /article.pl?sid=15/09/22/2125230 [soylentnews.org]
[22:36:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How is this possible? Micro$oft did it - 06Email Firm Pays Web Attack Ransom - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:36:49] <exec> 08└─Nonsense, it's not the NSA's fault. Now Symantic threatening to sue for antitrust if MS secured their OS...
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[23:33:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:"I'll Be Back" - 06Low Budget CNC Machine from Scrap - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:33:40] <exec> 08└─Thank you! That is brilliantly intuitive!
[23:34:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03tangomargarine [667] 02Oh my god not an anti-semite!! - 06Israel 'To Review' Top Appointment after Facebook Controversy - 608 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:03] <exec> 08└─I'm starting to tune out any time anyone is publicly called Anti-Semitic because it seems like there's such a low bar for it. Disagree with any public policy of Israel? Anti-Semite! Do anything but apologize profusely and loudly for the Holocaust? Anti-Semite! Someone being called Anti-Semitic surpr...
[23:34:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh my god not an anti-semite!! - 06Israel 'To Review' Top Appointment after Facebook Controversy - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:34:04] <exec> 08└─Yes, sometimes it is hard to remember we are all born human. The need to form tribes is something we hope education can attenuate over time...
[23:34:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Privacy is the app-killer - 06Driverless Cars Will Change the Way We Think of Car Ownership - 429 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:34:23] <exec> 08└─I used to think like you -- avoid the EZ-Pass, since it's nobody's business when and where I travel. Then, I realized all toll booths have cameras, and are 99% likely taking a snapshot of my license plate, OCR-ing it, and storing it in some computer forever. Once you internalize that, the EZ-Pass no...
[23:34:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Privacy is the app-killer - 06Driverless Cars Will Change the Way We Think of Car Ownership - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:34:25] <exec> 08└─You used to think like him, and then you decided to hand over your information on a silver platter. Since keeping your privacy is hard, you might as well give up whatever remaining privacy you have. Give up and reduce your chances of success to zero. Brilliant activism!
[23:34:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Optimism Out-of-Contol - 06Driverless Cars Will Change the Way We Think of Car Ownership - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:34:33] <exec> 08└─But unlike Billybob Blowjo living in a rural area with gravel and dirt roads, pathways to industrial locations are easier to map and maintain.
[23:34:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:Optimism Out-of-Contol - 06Driverless Cars Will Change the Way We Think of Car Ownership - 587 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:34:35] <exec> 08└─I'll wager that driverless trucks will not happen, for simple liability reasons. That is , the driver is usually responsible for the load in some manner. I would expect auto-drive (like the simpsons!!) to be plausible, with the driver actually being responsive. At least initially. I would argue that...
[23:34:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03angelosphere [5088] (Score:1) 02Re:Concrete - 06Thin Walls With Potentially Fatal Consequences - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:34:49] <exec> 08└─The plenty of over 2000 year old buildings on this planet disagree with you. And frankly: claiming concrete is 'brittle', is just retarded.
[23:35:03] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Mind your own business - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 268 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:03] <exec> 08└─How about minding your own business? If people want to have sex with their own inanimate objects, they should be able to do so. I don't see the point of an ethics discussion. The fact that some people apparently see this as wrong just shows how authoritarian they are.
[23:35:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mind your own business - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:35:11] <exec> 08└─So, when it comes to sex with robots, is it causing people to mistreat me? If not, then the argument that it is affecting their empathy falls very flat with me and I have no business interfering with their choices.
[23:35:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fear of competition - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 689 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:35:25] <exec> 08└─You are totally correct about dating not being a transaction. But dating and marriage are totally different. Marriage is about property -- yeah there's all the Hollywood Shakespeare Harlequin stuff poisoning our cultural understanding of marriage, but if you look at divorce laws you'll understand th...
[23:35:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fear of competition - 06Bootying Bots: The Experts' Perspective - 1062 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:35:29] <exec> 08└─Your comment is a little smug and it assumes that the only reason a person would choose a sexbot is because he is a misogynist, and that assumes that all women will be decent partners if you marry them. Sometimes though, a person can treat people in general, and intimate partners, with great respect...
[23:37:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02links to paper and story - 06Unlocking the Mysteries of 'Little Starlets' - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:37:18] <exec> 08└─http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2015/151106/ncomms9742/full/ncomms9742.html [nature.com] http://www.techradar.com [techradar.com]
[23:38:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:gift from above - 06TPP Has Provision Banning Requirements to Prevent Transfer of or Access to Source Code - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:38:19] <exec> 08└─I'd like to borrow your time machine.
[23:39:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Logic fail - 06Study Finds Banning E-Cigarette Sales to Minors Spurs Conventional Smoking - 615 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:39:35] <exec> 08└─I found a few with a search engine https://books.google.com [google.com] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov [nih.gov] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov [nih.gov] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov [nih.gov] http://www.macalester.edu...
[23:39:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Highly-challenged Krauts... - 06Lower Austria Goes All-Renewable - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:39:50] <exec> 08└─Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] is claiming they taste just like candy. caveat lambens.
[23:39:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Highly-challenged Krauts... - 06Lower Austria Goes All-Renewable - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:39:53] <exec> 08└─But it's Lower Austria. You know, the bit "down under" the rest.
[23:40:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good work! - 06Lower Austria Goes All-Renewable - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:40:02] <exec> 08└─I looked at your link, but it told me "Error 404 – Seite nicht gefunden".
[23:42:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Glasses - 06Out With the Old, in With the New: Telescope Mirrors Get New Shape - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:42:29] <exec> 08└─Ocumetics Technology Corp claims the camera technology in the lens is able to produce three-dimensional visual landscapes in optical images that have been naturally formatted and with no time delay
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