#comments | Logs for 2015-11-05

« return
[00:04:21] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[00:04:21] <exec> last cid = 258562
[00:06:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Daiv [3940] (Score:2) 02Have the Fitbit Surge - Thumbs up - 06Fitbit's Revenues Triple on Strong Sales of Wearable Fitness Trackers - 1243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:06:09] <exec> 08└─I've had the Fitbit Surge for about 4 months now. I can say that it does everything I want a smartwatch to do. Time, heart rate, pedometer, timer, very readable, great battery life. Most importantly, shows me incoming phone call numbers and let's me read incoming text messages. I don't care one bit...
[00:06:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Have the Fitbit Surge - Thumbs up - 06Fitbit's Revenues Triple on Strong Sales of Wearable Fitness Trackers - 450 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:06:10] <exec> 08└─What about the lack of privacy? Meaning, I think I would love a Fitbit, but I abso-fucking-lutely refuse to add permanent trackers to myself. I got rid of my smartphone for that reason and moved to a randomized burner phone model where I'm doing quite well at the Disrupt portion of A.D.B.B (suggeste...
[00:06:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Have the Fitbit Surge - Thumbs up - 06Fitbit's Revenues Triple on Strong Sales of Wearable Fitness Trackers - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:06:12] <exec> 08└─What the hell... didn't even realize that Fitbit made a product that paired to phones / mimics Pebble or Apple Watch. Even with Apple Watch falling far short of the hype that company is making lots of profit off of it. Apple should wait for its shares to drop, buy them back, and enjoy the power affo...
[00:06:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:not the most expensive fuelling station - 06U.S. Dept. of Defense Spends $43 Million on the "World's Most Expensive Gas Station" - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:06:24] <exec> 08└─Yup... everything under Obamas watch. Trump will take care of this BS.
[00:06:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:not the most expensive fuelling station - 06U.S. Dept. of Defense Spends $43 Million on the "World's Most Expensive Gas Station" - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:06:25] <exec> 08└─The US sticking it's nose in everyone's business IS a risk to national security.
[00:06:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:My father-in-law's theory - 06U.S. Dept. of Defense Spends $43 Million on the "World's Most Expensive Gas Station" - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:06:34] <exec> 08└─Another problem with your theory is that many of the people who got rich in Afghanistan and Iraq (or in general through defense spending) are private contractors. Boeing, Raytheon, Blackwater/Xe, Halliburton, and many smaller players. Many have friends in government and military, and retired general...
[00:06:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03deadstick [5110] (Score:2) 02Re:My father-in-law's theory - 06U.S. Dept. of Defense Spends $43 Million on the "World's Most Expensive Gas Station" - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:06:36] <exec> 08└─Which is why a hammer costs $18,000
[00:06:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:simple solution - 06U.S. Dept. of Defense Spends $43 Million on the "World's Most Expensive Gas Station" - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:06:38] <exec> 08└─Classified SUPER DOUBLE TOP SECRET NOFORN
[00:06:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:simple solution - 06U.S. Dept. of Defense Spends $43 Million on the "World's Most Expensive Gas Station" - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:06:40] <exec> 08└─well... guess we'll just have to jail the person at the DoD in charge of giving them money without proper justification. :)
[00:06:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:D'man keepin' us down - 06Alarming Rise in Death Rates for Middle-Aged White Americans - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:06:51] <exec> 08└─I know your problem. It's YOU. I suffer the same thing. The moment Dancing Queen comes on in public, I'm a seventeen year old girl in the club getting freaky....
[00:06:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Affirmative! - 06Alarming Rise in Death Rates for Middle-Aged White Americans - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:06:54] <exec> 08└─Why does everything always have to be about race? Sheesh.
[00:06:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Affirmative! - 06Alarming Rise in Death Rates for Middle-Aged White Americans - 476 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:06:56] <exec> 08└─Guys.... stop with the Troll moderation... It's a modified quote from Kanye West, one that people are now lauding as insightful and correct. Originated from the Katrina floods when he was on the air and had a 'moment', that was quite frankly, understandable and forgivable under the circumstances. By...
[00:07:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Wow, really? - 06Alarming Rise in Death Rates for Middle-Aged White Americans - 3239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:10] <exec> 08└─The entire article is almost trolling quite frankly. It got me riled up, because I *feel* this way. Anytime people seem to mention racism and discrimination, they can in the same breath, somehow exclude white men from being victims at all. That's not unique to "me" either. Transgender people get exc...
[00:07:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Re:Of course it is useful - 06Galician Cuisine May Be More Risque Than You Think - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:31] <exec> 08└─You'd have to go back a *lot* farther than 100 years to reach a point where modern English would be incomprehensible to even an average literate person, let alone all of them. Just to name a couple, the Adventures of Tom Sawyer was published in 1876, and Gulliver's Travels in 1726.
[00:07:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Of course it is useful - 06Galician Cuisine May Be More Risque Than You Think - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:33] <exec> 08└─Yes, but 100 years ago the people lacked internet-capable computers, therefore they couldn't read the web pages anyway. ;-)
[00:07:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Of course it is useful - 06Galician Cuisine May Be More Risque Than You Think - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:37] <exec> 08└─Google translate runs into some major grammar issues with German. I've been learning Deutsch for the past 3 years while living there, and I can see why google translate doesn't handle it well.
[00:07:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:Of course it is useful - 06Galician Cuisine May Be More Risque Than You Think - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:39] <exec> 08└─Google translate runs into some major grammar issues with German. I've been learning Deutsch for the past 3 years while living there, and I can see why google translate doesn't handle it well.
[00:07:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Lost in translation - 06Galician Cuisine May Be More Risque Than You Think - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:51] <exec> 08└─The cloud, of course. Rain is only available as cloud service. ☺
[00:07:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:2) 02Re:Lost in translation - 06Galician Cuisine May Be More Risque Than You Think - 912 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:52] <exec> 08└─And it gets worst in some languages... I took clases in Yucatec Maya and the number varies with the type of thing being described, for example: junp'eel is one of something not-alive, junp'eel míis (one broom)juntúul is one of something alive (but not plants) juntùul miis (one cat, the diacritica...
[00:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Most advanced, stable - 06Linux Kernel 4.3 Officially Released, It's Now the Most Advanced Stable Version - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:07] <exec> 08└─S... s.... systemd!!!!!
[00:10:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Well that sucks - 06UK Wants to Ban Unbreakable Encryption, Log which Websites You Visit - 2006 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:42] <exec> 08└─Well... more accurately OTP has as many decrypted versions as the possible permutations of the dataset itself . It's not big key (K) and encrypted text (E), it's Key (K) and CipherText (C), and they are perfectly equal in size. Therein lies the truly unbreakable encryption, of which to my knowledge,...
[00:15:18] <exec> count new = 21
[00:15:18] <exec> count top = 0
[00:15:18] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[01:04:19] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[01:04:19] <exec> last cid = 258583
[01:06:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Late to the party - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:06:07] <exec> 08└─Basically what's happening here is that these content producers fought tooth-and-nail against offering on-demand services that the public has been asking for for decades, and now that a business is successful doing it they're bitching that they're not the ones reaping the rewards of it. This just p...
[01:06:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Be careful guys.... - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 938 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:06:08] <exec> 08└─That's not the right question. Can the PIRACY genie be put back in the bottle. That's *the* question they need to be asking. Of course, the answer is a flat out no. Netflix removes M.A.S.H? Fine, it's about 3 hours to download all 11 seasons of M.A.S.H. I should know, I already *did* it. In addition...
[01:06:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03EQ [1716] (Score:2) 02Pull it off Netflix or Hulu? Hello piracy. - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 897 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:06:10] <exec> 08└─It's fairly simple, they decrease the convenience and availability then they will increase piracy. I've seen the lame attempts at streaming their own shows from their own websites and it's horrible. To skip to a different part of a program, one show forced a 2and a half minute commercial break, even...
[01:06:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02edited - 06U.S. Dept. of Defense Spends $43 Million on the "World's Most Expensive Gas Station" - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:06:47] <exec> 08└─edited to add a link to the report: https://www.sigar.mil [sigar.mil]
[01:06:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03EQ [1716] (Score:2) 02Any soldier who served over there can tell you... - 06U.S. Dept. of Defense Spends $43 Million on the "World's Most Expensive Gas Station" - 853 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:06:48] <exec> 08└─... That a lot of the money wasn't going to the soldiers, or their pay or equipment and supplies... it was being handed out to bribe locals and line the pockets of contractors who have friend in congress or are former flag rank officers and their buddies in the pentagon. And another big bucket of ca...
[01:07:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03mmcmonster [401] (Score:2) 02Re:Promising - 06Alarming Rise in Death Rates for Middle-Aged White Americans - 749 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:07:08] <exec> 08└─I work in the health care field in a rural white county. The population here is strongly against Obamacare, even those who personally got insurance because of it. They'd rather have no insurance and be on charity (and only get their health care in the hospital ER) than pay $100 a month for healthcar...
[01:07:20] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Francis [5544] 02Re:Wow, really? - 06Alarming Rise in Death Rates for Middle-Aged White Americans - 442 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:07:20] <exec> 08└─Probably, but nobody cares about the huge number of young black men that just disappear either. Personally, I think they're both serious problems that need addressing, but because it involves men, it's considered less important than fictitious issues like the pay gap. Things are starting to change,...
[01:07:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wow, really? - 06Alarming Rise in Death Rates for Middle-Aged White Americans - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:07:22] <exec> 08└─You were getting my sympathy until you used the ugly slur against intellectually disabled persons.
[01:07:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wow, really? - 06Alarming Rise in Death Rates for Middle-Aged White Americans - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:07:24] <exec> 08└─Retard? As in, retarded: not meeting full potential. A person that does not fully use their intelligence is just as retarded as someone with a mental disability which is physical incapable to thrive. To think that word means anything except its intended and original meaning is literally retarded.
[01:07:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:Wow, really? - 06Alarming Rise in Death Rates for Middle-Aged White Americans - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:07:25] <exec> 08└─"I'm pretty sure no-one gives a toss about middle-aged white men." BS. Divorce lawyers, salesmen, fast food outlets and other parasites love this sort of host...
[01:08:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:1) 02You get what you paid for - 06Galician Cuisine May Be More Risque Than You Think - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:08:07] <exec> 08└─If they wanted a perfect translation, they would have hired a translator. As it is, they relied on a free service which caters towards mainstream languages and dialects, and then bitch when it doesn't recognise their obscure dialect. People like this should not be allowed within 100 feet of the inte...
[01:08:41] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03tangomargarine [667] 02Re:Moral (not that MS will learn it) - 06Microsoft Announces OneDrive Downgrades - 417 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:08:42] <exec> 08└─"Unlimited" means literally without limits. If there are any limits placed on it whatsoever, it's not unlimited. A 3rd grader could tell you this. Marketing wankers need to stop trying to have their cake and eat it, too. I would rather be told the number I can use without them getting mad at me, tha...
[01:08:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Moral (not that MS will learn it) - 06Microsoft Announces OneDrive Downgrades - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:08:44] <exec> 08└─Are you aware that we live in a finite universe,
[01:10:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Neat idea - 06Australia to Test Virtual Passports - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:41] <exec> 08└─I'm also a little confused about the passport card system, seeing as they're approximately useless for international travel, last time I checked. Maybe they've stopped offering them. They were issued by the passport people but were not "real" legal passports. Kinda weird, like the feds playing "just...
[01:10:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Well that sucks - 06UK Wants to Ban Unbreakable Encryption, Log which Websites You Visit - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:11:00] <exec> 08└─With a OTP, why not just memorize the actual file? It's exactly the same size.
[01:11:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:Seaweed tastes good and is good for you - 06Boffins Solve Bacon Crisis with Newly-Patented Plant - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:11:44] <exec> 08└─I assume you replied to the wrong post??
[01:15:19] <exec> count new = 14
[01:15:19] <exec> count top = 2
[01:15:19] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[02:04:17] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[02:04:17] <exec> last cid = 258599
[02:06:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score:2) 02Shut down the MPAA - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:06:13] <exec> 08└─Is there any way to shut down the MPAA? Nobody wants them. Just get rid of them.
[02:06:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02tilting at windmills - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 580 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:06:14] <exec> 08└─So the MAFIAA wins another meaningless round of whack-a-mole. I wonder how long the MAFIAA can go on persecuting the entire world? How will it end? I'd love to see the architects of this intellectual property propaganda brought to trial, but I suspect that will never happen. I'd settle for the marke...
[02:06:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:tilting at windmills - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:06:16] <exec> 08└─Yup. "The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." has never been more true.
[02:06:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Late to the party - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 494 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:06:26] <exec> 08└─They also seem to think people are going to shell out 5-10 for 20 different services... PER MONTH That is not going to happen either. I just picked up 13 seasons of poirot for 80 bucks. I will be enjoying that for months. I can do that for years on end and still come out well ahead what these guys a...
[02:06:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03edIII [791] 02Be careful guys.... - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 938 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:06:28] <exec> 08└─That's not the right question. Can the PIRACY genie be put back in the bottle. That's *the* question they need to be asking. Of course, the answer is a flat out no. Netflix removes M.A.S.H? Fine, it's about 3 hours to download all 11 seasons of M.A.S.H. I should know, I already *did* it. In addition...
[02:06:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Be careful guys.... - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:06:29] <exec> 08└─With EZTV back in action I'm just going to shrug, shake my head, and move on.
[02:06:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Re:Be careful guys.... - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 543 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:06:31] <exec> 08└─They really can't, can they? Thanks to the content cartels dragging their feet and choosing to litigate instead of innovate the standard for my generation became: all content, free, without limits, immediately. You really can't make a business model out of that, but that's not my problem. "But peopl...
[02:06:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02No. Here's Why: - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 733 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:06:33] <exec> 08└─By selling their reruns to Netflix, the TV studios funded the production of Netflix' own shows. Professional TV cameras are phenomenally expensive. But now Netflix owns lots of them, they have studios and the like. Alternatively those who cannot sell their independently-produced shows to the broadca...
[02:06:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:No. Here's Why: - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:06:34] <exec> 08└─Professional TV cameras are phenomenally expensive. But now Netflix owns lots of them, they have studios and the like. Alternatively those who cannot sell their independently-produced shows to the broadcast networks can sell them to Netflix instead.
[02:06:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:4, Interesting) 02The ancient paradox - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 1890 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:06:36] <exec> 08└─Information wants to be free. Information wants to be expensive. The MAFIAA is dependent on the latter and horrified at the reality of the former. So much has been invested already in entertainment that many people don't care about the latter -- and why should they? There's a way out of the paradox....
[02:06:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03dltaylor [4693] (Score:2) 02a: easy; b: cheap - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:06:38] <exec> 08└─If it's any harder, or very little more expensive, in aggregate, than NetFlix/Hulu, then I'm not interested. I do not NEED your product, so you have a choice between picking up some income, or no income.
[02:06:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Have the Fitbit Surge - Price is Up - 06Fitbit's Revenues Triple on Strong Sales of Wearable Fitness Trackers - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:06:46] <exec> 08└─Wow, i though the Microsoft new model was high priced. But at least it actually had an extensive suite of sensors and functionality. $250 for either of them. The Surge looks clunky and huge by comparison.
[02:06:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Have the Fitbit Surge - Price is Up - 06Fitbit's Revenues Triple on Strong Sales of Wearable Fitness Trackers - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:06:48] <exec> 08└─Comparison article: http://techgadgetcentral.com [techgadgetcentral.com]
[02:07:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Any soldier who served over there can tell you. - 06U.S. Dept. of Defense Spends $43 Million on the "World's Most Expensive Gas Station" - 705 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:15] <exec> 08└─I don't know about soldiers being "unemployable. Most of the folks I know who hire people prefer military veterans. To quote one pal who runs a large solar installation company, "Give me a grunt or jarhead any time. Give them a job and they will bitch and moan the whole time but it gets done." And t...
[02:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:D'man keepin' us down - 06Alarming Rise in Death Rates for Middle-Aged White Americans - 6 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:29] <exec> 08└─S.O.S!
[02:07:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03J053 [3532] (Score:1) 02Re:Affirmative! - 06Alarming Rise in Death Rates for Middle-Aged White Americans - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:33] <exec> 08└─Or about Obama?
[02:07:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Promising - 06Alarming Rise in Death Rates for Middle-Aged White Americans - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:38] <exec> 08└─"You don't understand the right wing mindset well enough." See the science on reasoning: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[02:07:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's the economy, stupid - 06Alarming Rise in Death Rates for Middle-Aged White Americans - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:44] <exec> 08└─The prize for economics is the one that tries to ride the coat-tails of the real Nobel Prizes, right?
[02:07:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's the economy, stupid - 06Alarming Rise in Death Rates for Middle-Aged White Americans - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:46] <exec> 08└─That's why I've suggested that Japan's "make work" programs may be better than having cheaper trinkets. A dude without a job is a pariah in our society (whether fair or not). That he can buy $8 plastic lawn-chairs matters to him much less than having a job. Plus, idle people are more likely to get i...
[02:07:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's the economy, stupid - 06Alarming Rise in Death Rates for Middle-Aged White Americans - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:48] <exec> 08└─Sooner or later technology is going to put us all out of work... except for a few jobs like CEO and US Senator. That's if the bugs don't take over on account of global warming. We're doomed...
[02:07:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wow, really? - 06Alarming Rise in Death Rates for Middle-Aged White Americans - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:58] <exec> 08└─Does anyone ever use it as a slur against intellectually disabled people? Do you really think that the parent meant any offence to the mentally handicapped? If not, then you should try to convince the parent to not use the word instead of saying something that might make him/her defensive.
[02:07:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wow, really? - 06Alarming Rise in Death Rates for Middle-Aged White Americans - 650 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:59] <exec> 08└─The US decided to develop certain programs to try to correct some of the disparities that are caused, at least in part, by low-income status and race. It is unfortunate that not everyone who is down on their luck has government help available to them and that some people take advantage of government...
[02:12:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Chemical balance in seawater tanks very difficult - 06Boffins Solve Bacon Crisis with Newly-Patented Plant - 338 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:12:25] <exec> 08└─I have a close friend who is an expert in seawater fishtanks. You can't just put seafish in seawater, you need the entire ecosystem. Unfortunately, Ann asked me to feed her beloved seafish and shellfish while she was out of town. I did so but I didn't understand that she wanted me to feed them every...
[02:12:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:Chemical balance in seawater tanks very difficu - 06Boffins Solve Bacon Crisis with Newly-Patented Plant - 450 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:12:27] <exec> 08└─I did not say you did, hence the high monthly bill (even for small tanks) compared to freshwater? Also setup costs are VERY large in comparison. So yes I agree with you, high maintenance and high cost. And we have not even touched on a food system needing to have its health and safety monitored also...
[02:15:00] <exec> count new = 23
[02:15:01] <exec> count top = 1
[02:15:01] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[03:04:15] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[03:04:16] <exec> last cid = 258626
[03:06:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Shut down the MPAA - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:13] <exec> 08└─Yes. Stop going to the movies.
[03:06:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Shut down the MPAA - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 812 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:13] <exec> 08└─Stop consuming. Kill your TV - just don't watch. Stop renting movies, no matter how old. Never go to the theater. You might even consider not torrenting. Don't consume. End the demand for their shite, and they'll start paying people to watch it. If half or more of the world just stops watching, MPAA...
[03:06:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:tilting at windmills - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:17] <exec> 08└─And the BEST part is, like the Energizer bunny, TPB is ....... still going... thump thump thump thump thump thump thump thu-
[03:06:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:tilting at windmills - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 842 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:19] <exec> 08└─Exactly. My mind translates these articles into a J.J Abrams film with the MPAA lawyers using their epic Death-Star-like technology and bad ass Smith-like agents to fight against the impossible, and they take out the rebel scum with extreme prejudice. A smoking crater is left after the shock and awe...
[03:06:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:3, Insightful) 02damn it - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 2531 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:06:20] <exec> 08└─After buying a movie ticket and being exposed to the complete shit Star Trek into Darkness was (hey, I liked the reboot movie, it was fun), Interstellar and Edge of Tomorrow were the last films I saw in a theater. I haven't even seen The Martian yet, and I gave Terminator: Genisys a wide berth after...
[03:06:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:damn it - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:22] <exec> 08└─I'll buy a 4K monitor when there is a critical mass of 4K resolution video torrents.
[03:06:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:damn it - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:24] <exec> 08└─I'll buy a 4K monitor the second I can afford a decent one because there is already a critical mass of 1080p resolution torrents, but also a huge critical mass of software that benefits from the extra pixels. I just want more space on the desktop for more programs to be open and displayed at once.
[03:06:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:damn it - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:26] <exec> 08└─I just want more space on the desktop for more programs to be open and displayed at once.
[03:06:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Purely symbolic, for Wall Street, the Press &c. - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 2233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:06:28] <exec> 08└─Lately I've been downloading discographies rather than individual songs because I find I can download ten entire albums in less time than just the one song. This because more people seed discographies; it's quite difficult to find seeds for the kinds of music that greybeards such as myself like to b...
[03:06:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Appalbarry [66] (Score:3, Informative) 02And Would I Notice? - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:06:29] <exec> 08└─And yet, I can still always find one or the other Pirate Bay site in a few seconds, and download away. Or would if I was the sort of person who would go looking for Pirate Bay, or who would download copyrighted material. Which I'm not.
[03:06:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:And Would I Notice? - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:31] <exec> 08└─Failing YIFY, anoXmous is another good encoder. (Shit, should I have mentioned that?) HorribleSubs is good for anime, but if you're really hardcore about anime, I'd recommend trying to get an invite to the trackers that require good ratio. ETTV and EZTV are good alternatives. Everything else seems a...
[03:06:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:And Would I Notice? - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:33] <exec> 08└─Shit, should I have mentioned that?
[03:06:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02The more I hear about **AA... - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:06:35] <exec> 08└─The more I torrent. Keep up the good work A**holes.
[03:06:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bill Evans [1094] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:The more I hear about **AA... - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:36] <exec> 08└─I think that's spelled AA**holes.
[03:06:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Technology? What Technology? - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:06:38] <exec> 08└─And the next article in the list is titled "Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle?" I'm going to go ahead and guess no.
[03:06:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Tork [3914] 02Late to the party - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 313 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:06:40] <exec> 08└─Basically what's happening here is that these content producers fought tooth-and-nail against offering on-demand services that the public has been asking for for decades, and now that a business is successful doing it they're bitching that they're not the ones reaping the rewards of it. This just p...
[03:06:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Late to the party - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:41] <exec> 08└─Thank you. I'll look for it at the public library. Agatha Christie died in 1976, so what's another year or two?
[03:06:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Be careful guys.... - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:46] <exec> 08└─Tough shit for them, but that's exactly what Wall Streeters and business executives think when they hear IT people wail about outsourcing, and the shelf life of IT skills steadily decreasing as new generations of platforms and software pile on top of one another. If you don't have empathy for people...
[03:06:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Be careful guys.... - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 701 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:47] <exec> 08└─I don't have any empathy for Hitler and his work (or solution), and yep, I don't expect any empathy from Hitler anytime soon. Don't act as if the lines of "work" are equal. I have zero empathy for sociopaths that are no longer able to abuse people as they once did, and as a result, have less million...
[03:06:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Be careful guys.... - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:49] <exec> 08└─I accept bitcoin. - Godwin
[03:06:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03EQ [1716] 02Pull it off Netflix or Hulu? Hello piracy. - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 897 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:06:51] <exec> 08└─It's fairly simple, they decrease the convenience and availability then they will increase piracy. I've seen the lame attempts at streaming their own shows from their own websites and it's horrible. To skip to a different part of a program, one show forced a 2and a half minute commercial break, even...
[03:06:52] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] 02The ancient paradox - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 1890 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:06:53] <exec> 08└─Information wants to be free. Information wants to be expensive. The MAFIAA is dependent on the latter and horrified at the reality of the former. So much has been invested already in entertainment that many people don't care about the latter -- and why should they? There's a way out of the paradox....
[03:06:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03iamjacksusername [1479] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Pendulumn - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 2374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:06:54] <exec> 08└─Netflix used to have everything because the content producers did not see any real revenue in streaming so Netflix was able to license the streaming lights fot close to $0. And, because of that, they were able to license everything. Now, the content producers and the cable companies (because they ar...
[03:06:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03DonkeyChan [5551] (Score:1) 02Commercials - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 419 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:06:56] <exec> 08└─TV's Prime time original programming is approx 40% commercials now. The Strain on FX is a prime example of this. The only thing they can do to compete is to reduce these commercials as the alternative is that people just won't watch them then pirate them later. If they make the experience enjoyable...
[03:06:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Commercials - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 668 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:58] <exec> 08└─You could also argue that "prime time" is no longer prime tv viewing time. A lot of people are now checking emails, browsing websites or playing games instead of watching TV - assuming they watch TV at all. In our house the TV is mostly background noise - I'm always on the computer during my off tim...
[03:07:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:not the most expensive fuelling station - 06U.S. Dept. of Defense Spends $43 Million on the "World's Most Expensive Gas Station" - 613 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:23] <exec> 08└─(same AC) Recently I was listening to an interview [kpfa.org] with Laurence Shoup. At about 26:51 into it, he says that Kenneth Pollack, who was in the Clinton administration, wrote an article in Foreign Affairs called "It's the Oil, Stupid" and a book called Threatening Storm: The Case for Invading...
[03:07:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03tekk [5704] (Score:1) 02Re:not the most expensive fuelling station - 06U.S. Dept. of Defense Spends $43 Million on the "World's Most Expensive Gas Station" - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:25] <exec> 08└─Please, as if we got any gas out of invading Iraq...
[03:07:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My father-in-law's theory - 06U.S. Dept. of Defense Spends $43 Million on the "World's Most Expensive Gas Station" - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:33] <exec> 08└─Welfare is itself a make-work program for all those social workers.
[03:07:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Any soldier who served over there can tell you. - 06U.S. Dept. of Defense Spends $43 Million on the "World's Most Expensive Gas Station" - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:43] <exec> 08└─And another big bucket of cash went to the government officials cousin "Hamid" just happened to get contracts for work that never got done but kicked back a lot of that so the politicians and police look the other way.
[03:08:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Promising - 06Alarming Rise in Death Rates for Middle-Aged White Americans - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:07] <exec> 08└─[...] only seek medical care when there's no other option.
[03:08:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's the economy, stupid - 06Alarming Rise in Death Rates for Middle-Aged White Americans - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:14] <exec> 08└─It could also be related to their insane working conditions.
[03:08:24] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03edIII [791] 02Re:Wow, really? - 06Alarming Rise in Death Rates for Middle-Aged White Americans - 3239 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:25] <exec> 08└─The entire article is almost trolling quite frankly. It got me riled up, because I *feel* this way. Anytime people seem to mention racism and discrimination, they can in the same breath, somehow exclude white men from being victims at all. That's not unique to "me" either. Transgender people get exc...
[03:08:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DECbot [832] 02Re:Travel Plans - 06Galician Cuisine May Be More Risque Than You Think - 13 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:47] <exec> 08└─Sausage Fest?
[03:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Moral (not that MS will learn it) - 06Microsoft Announces OneDrive Downgrades - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:51] <exec> 08└─I'm asking a question, not to argue, but out of genuine curiosity: Could you please name an example or two of a truly unlimited service?
[03:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03scarboni888 [5061] (Score:1) 02Re:Moral (not that MS will learn it) - 06Microsoft Announces OneDrive Downgrades - 461 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:53] <exec> 08└─Just purely based on the mathematical definiation of it isn't there ALWAYS someone who is above average with regard to anything you're measuring? If the average is 100MB and I'm using 110MB that puts me above the average so then I can be considered abusive. I'm not arguing to say there's no such thi...
[03:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03hunchentoot [4874] (Score:1) 02Re:Soylent: can we dial the anti-MS bias? - 06Microsoft Announces OneDrive Downgrades - 1188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:05] <exec> 08└─I got the message loud and clear. Just as a bit of background I have been a software engineer by profession since the early 90s almost exclusively in the linux stack with a few gigs related to microsoft. I have never worked for microsoft nor do I represent them in any way. I have felt the pain of de...
[03:10:49] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Nothing tops the USPS - 06Deliveries in the Modern Age - 1165 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:10:49] <exec> 08└─Seriously. They deliver more stuff to more people in more places more accurately more efficiently than any other organization on the planet. And their system? Some of it is super-fancy technology like very good OCR. Some of it is hand-sorting. They adjust what they're doing so that they aren't tryin...
[03:12:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03jdavidb [5690] 02Re:Well that sucks - 06UK Wants to Ban Unbreakable Encryption, Log which Websites You Visit - 69 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:12:11] <exec> 08└─It seems that they just don't get that privacy is a basic human right
[03:15:27] <exec> count new = 31
[03:15:27] <exec> count top = 7
[03:15:27] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[04:04:13] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[04:04:14] <exec> last cid = 258658
[04:06:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I think it's fair to say - 06The Bicentennial of George Boole, the Man Who Laid the Foundations of the Digital Age - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:06:10] <exec> 08└─that Boole had no idea what he was talking about
[04:06:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Re:damn it - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:30] <exec> 08└─I'll buy it the moment I want to become another moron who buys useless shit and then complains about having no money. Which will be never. Our consumerist society has managed to brainwash a lot of people.
[04:06:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And Would I Notice? - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:35] <exec> 08└─http://www.nyaa.se/ [www.nyaa.se]
[04:06:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Late to the party - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:06:50] <exec> 08└─That doesn't apply to the movies. The last one was made only a year or two ago and the earliest one was made in the '80s. The books are another matter, those are going to be expiring in the relative near future. Assuming that Disney is thwarted from getting it extended again. But really, those books...
[04:07:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Re:The ancient paradox - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:01] <exec> 08└─a basic income for everybody
[04:07:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score:2) 02Re:Pendulumn - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:04] <exec> 08└─Actually, Netflix is kinda big down here in Australia too.
[04:07:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Wrong problem - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:07:08] <exec> 08└─They don't care if you binge watch. They don't care if you subscribe to cable. They care about making the $100/month (plus) per household that they have built their whole 'content' industry around. Netflix + Hulu Plus + Amazon Prime does not come close. That plus HBO GO doesn't come close. Their fir...
[04:07:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Well at least they didn't treble ;) - 06Fitbit's Revenues Triple on Strong Sales of Wearable Fitness Trackers - 3 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:07:20] <exec> 08└─N/A
[04:08:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03slash2phar [623] (Score:2) 02Re:D'man keepin' us down - 06Alarming Rise in Death Rates for Middle-Aged White Americans - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:08:09] <exec> 08└─Does your mother know?
[04:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why I don't use cloud storage - 06Microsoft Announces OneDrive Downgrades - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:09:41] <exec> 08└─Well, who says that such privacy policies even matter in the eyes of the law?
[04:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Too thin for a direct replacement - 06Boffins Solve Bacon Crisis with Newly-Patented Plant - 485 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:28] <exec> 08└─The danger has been known since at least the 1970s. Fiddler et al. (1973) and Greenberg (1974) showed that high levels of ascorbic acid reduced nitrosamine formation in frankfurter sausages and in fried bacon. [...] Induction of neoplasms in offspring as a result of prenatal exposure to various N-...
[04:14:58] <exec> count new = 11
[04:14:59] <exec> count top = 0
[04:14:59] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[05:04:12] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[05:04:12] <exec> last cid = 258670
[05:05:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmdr_tofu [5669] (Score:1) 02wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:05:59] <exec> 08└─Apparently in ESR's world sexual harassment doesn't happen, it's just a wyministic plot to discredit men and advance the anti-male agenda. Feminism is the advancement of equal political, economic, cultural, personal, and social rights for women. It is in no way a threat to men's rights; indeed, with...
[05:06:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Impossible and we can prove it - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:06:00] <exec> 08└─Drop the drawers and you'll find he's running eunuchs down there. /be here all week! Tip your waitress!
[05:06:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Well.... - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 3107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:06:02] <exec> 08└─Let me start by saying I love ESR on many levels. He helped introduce me to the world of free software, and he helped solidify me in my early libertarian thinking. I even visited the Hacker's Dictionary today on catb.org - thanks, ESR! I recognize he rubs a lot of people the wrong way, but overall I...
[05:06:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Not Men. per se. . . - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:06:04] <exec> 08└─If it involves ESR, well, . . . . Real men are actually feminists. Scaredy-pants girly boys are oppressed by feminists, because they are scared. Of course, they are also scared of Blizzard. At some point, these guys need to just admit their orientation, and that they are "bottoms". Only then will...
[05:06:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I'm up there - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 1090 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:06:05] <exec> 08└─Hey ESR, I'm up there with you and can really appreciate a good conspiracy or cover-up. But this... Really? This is the best you can do, the best you can come up with? I'm sorry, I'm losing my respect for you. The decline was already set before you set up your patreon thing where you asked people to...
[05:06:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shut down the MPAA - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:06:23] <exec> 08└─I stopped going to movies more than decade ago. When, you told, MPAA will disappear? Please, stop writing bullshit about "stop going to the movies", this doesn't work. I checked that personally.
[05:06:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:damn it - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:06:33] <exec> 08└─*Very* good point. Which is why I'm waiting for the price of a 55-60" to fall within reason.
[05:06:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:damn it - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:06:36] <exec> 08└─Touche? There is nothing consumerist about me waiting 8 years to get new monitors, and waiting for 4K that can allow me extra space on the desktop. Which, can help increase my productivity. Where you saw vapid consumerism, there was really just commercial use in mind. On that note, I'm sure there ar...
[05:06:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02The MPAA Strikes Back.... - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:06:46] <exec> 08└─With apolgies for all the unattributed quotes: Is there any way to shut down the MPAA? Nobody wants them. Just get rid of them.
[05:07:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pendulumn - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:07:11] <exec> 08└─That's what she said
[05:07:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Adamsjas [4507] (Score:2) 02Re:Have the Fitbit Surge - Thumbs up - 06Fitbit's Revenues Triple on Strong Sales of Wearable Fitness Trackers - 503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:07:24] <exec> 08└─I think a stand alone server side might be pretty nice. There is an opportunity there for somebody to write that app and sell it either with or around the original vendor. I don't know how much of the Fitbit shares with Just your Phone, vs some website. Realistically, I don't see what advantage ther...
[05:14:51] <exec> count new = 11
[05:14:51] <exec> count top = 0
[05:14:51] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[06:03:53] -!- exec has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
[06:05:09] -!- crutchy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
[06:10:24] -!- crutchy [crutchy!~crutchy@709-27-2-01.cust.aussiebb.net] has joined #comments
[06:10:24] -!- mode/#comments [+o crutchy] by ChanServ
[06:15:32] -!- exec [exec!~exec@utioner/T-800/BeVeryAfraid] has joined #comments
[06:15:32] -!- mode/#comments [+o exec] by ChanServ
[06:15:33] -!- mode/#comments [-o crutchy] by exec
[07:15:20] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[07:15:21] <exec> last cid = 258681
[07:17:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Betteridge's law of headlines - 06Could Russian Subs Stop the Internet? - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:17:22] <exec> 08└─Betteridge's law of headlines says no? I am not so sure since Canada has NO fibre-optic cables that by-pass the US (yet; there is a northwest passage (London-Tokyo) one being built).
[07:17:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Username [4557] (Score:2) 02Just catching up with the NSA - 06Could Russian Subs Stop the Internet? - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:17:24] <exec> 08└─Find a nice place to splice in where no one can reach.
[07:17:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Just catching up with the NSA - 06Could Russian Subs Stop the Internet? - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:17:25] <exec> 08└─Find a nice place to splice in where no one can reach.
[07:17:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just catching up with the NSA - 06Could Russian Subs Stop the Internet? - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:17:27] <exec> 08└─possibly with something like this [wikipedia.org]
[07:17:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02YES - 06Could Russian Subs Stop the Internet? - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:17:29] <exec> 08└─We know they can do it because we did it first! [wikipedia.org]
[07:17:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Adamsjas [4507] (Score:2) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:17:38] <exec> 08└─Where were you going with that tirade? Are you stating categorically that what ESR says ISN'T true? You have some inside knowledge of this? Or are you just making political statements? I suppose he could have made it all up, it is after all very short. What would his end-game be?
[07:17:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:17:40] <exec> 08└─Are you stating categorically that what ESR says ISN'T true?
[07:17:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 457 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:17:42] <exec> 08└─I have now read the article and I still have no idea what the motivation of these people allegedly is. Do they want money? What is it? Am I supposed to just know? BTW, did anyone notice the article was published at breitbart? That's usually good for at least a little bit of ad hominem discrediting i...
[07:17:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:17:44] <exec> 08└─And maybe publicize it. But there's no need to bring all the rest of this into it, . (Maybe all that's in the article - true to tradition, I've posted about four times now without even reading it.)
[07:17:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:17:45] <exec> 08└─It's so imprecise and it alleges something not just about behavior but about motivations - motivations that we can speculate about forever but unless one of us is a mindreader we can never be certain about.
[07:17:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 1862 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:17:47] <exec> 08└─I took one look at the Ada initiative site and saw exactly what I expected - short and colored-haired bull-dykes with sagging titties and daddy issues, perpetually angry and outraged, probably Jewish, and with shrill hysterical voices. But now something insightful - Just like any religion, you have...
[07:17:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:17:49] <exec> 08└─I'll repeat something to you someone once told me... "Wow... that's a lot of butthurt in a single post" You should see a therapist. You have issues... Excessive ethanol-consumption is likely one of them. And before you shoot back: no, a 'functioning drunk' does not exist. Sorry to pop that balloon f...
[07:17:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1, Disagree) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:17:51] <exec> 08└─A wise man once said, many aeons ago: " In before someone disbelieves the message because they dislike the messenger. "
[07:17:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:17:53] <exec> 08└─I took one look at the Ada initiative site and saw exactly what I expected - short and colored-haired bull-dykes with sagging titties and daddy issues, perpetually angry and outraged, probably Jewish, and with shrill hysterical voices.
[07:17:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Well.... - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:17:55] <exec> 08└─I know this sort of thing goes on all the time, but in my world a married man or a much older man doesn't spend one on one alone time with a woman "mentoring" her. That is total BS and everybody in my culture knows it.
[07:17:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Well.... - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:17:56] <exec> 08└─I assume gays and asexuals also are not interested in being accused of doing something they didn't do that could ruin their career or life. But that's up to them.
[07:17:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Well.... - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:17:58] <exec> 08└─So you both believe that most or all of men are driven by sexual desire above all others and women will try to trap men with false allegations. Your world is a strange place concocted by an unattractive mind.
[07:17:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Well.... - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:18:00] <exec> 08└─Your world seems to be a strange place of non sequiturs.
[07:18:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Well.... - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 737 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:18:02] <exec> 08└─Pffft, I never doubted for a second that he sounded "paranoid." Look at what happened to Julian Assange. You piss enough people off and being set-up in that manner becomes a very real possibility. And in today's hysterical political climate, macho men get the short-end of the shit-stick. We had a co...
[07:18:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03NoMaster [3543] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm up there - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:18:03] <exec> 08└─I forget: is ESR the gun-nut who believes American blacks are more likely to show poor impulse control and violent behavior due to racial differences in IQ, or the one who eats his own toe-jam?
[07:18:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score:2) 02motivation? - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:18:05] <exec> 08└─There could be any number of motivations for an individual to make a false allegation of sexual assualt. However in this case, the allegation is that these are some kind of SJW false flag attack being planned by a group of people. Any hint as to what they would be hoping to accomplish by doing this,...
[07:18:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:motivation? - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:18:07] <exec> 08└─Good question. And on that note: As if they hadn't discredited the movement enough already, feminists are now reportedly attempting to collect scalps [breitbart.com] from notable men in tech.
[07:18:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:motivation? - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:18:09] <exec> 08└─What movement is it that feminists have allegedly discredited?
[07:18:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:motivation? - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:18:10] <exec> 08└─some kind of SJW false flag attack
[07:18:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:3, Funny) 02Lesson learned by reading this article - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:18:12] <exec> 08└─When having sex in your hotel when attending a convention make sure it's a threesome by bringing your wife or other significant life form.
[07:18:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02If they're doing this, they're not feminists - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 3094 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:18:14] <exec> 08└─The stated goal of feminism is simple: gender equality. That is, I think we can all agree, a reasonable goal. (Okay, Buzzard may or may not agree... I expect he'll claim to, but I don't know if I'll believe him, for reasons shortly to be evident) Attacking people who aren't doing anything wrong, wit...
[07:18:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Username [4557] (Score:2) 02Re:If they're doing this, they're not feminists - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:18:16] <exec> 08└─If it was about equality they would be egalitarians. Since it’s purely for the advancement of women, they would be feminists.
[07:18:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If they're doing this, they're not feminists - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 545 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:18:18] <exec> 08└─"Anyone have a better label?" "Feminists" works just fine. See you're operating on the false assumption that these "cult-feminists" are somehow the radical/fringe/minority group. They are not. The belief in The Patriarchy, 1 in 4/"rape culture", wage gap myths, etc are all central tenets of current...
[07:18:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:If they're doing this, they're not feminists - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:18:19] <exec> 08└─The stated goal of feminism is simple: gender equality. That is, I think we can all agree, a reasonable goal.
[07:18:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02How to identify a bullshit conspiracy theory - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:18:21] <exec> 08└─They use a blanket term like "feminist" to identify the source of the "evil." Some men are feminists.
[07:18:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I'm sorry, but this is not news. - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:18:23] <exec> 08└─How the heck did this get past the editors? I thought this was a news site, not a red-pill dumping ground for fevered persecution fantasies. Oh, but it involves LT, so it's tech-related... sure. Come on, we're better than this!
[07:18:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'm sorry, but this is not news. - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:18:24] <exec> 08└─I have to agree. Its one anonymous IRC allegation made to someone inclined to take that kind of bull at face value. Zero confirmation, zero examples of it happening to anyone else - despite the allegations that Linus isn't the only target. In fact, a strict parsing of the claim doesn't even say that...
[07:18:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'm sorry, but this is not news. - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:18:26] <exec> 08└─It's only newsworthy if it perpetuates gewg_'s socialist bullcrap... amirite?
[07:18:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02From the "good luck with that" dept. - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:18:28] <exec> 08└─Torvalds is a protected species, not only by the open source community, but also the corporate world. He's basically free to rape and pillage whatever he wants.
[07:18:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02not representative of feminists - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:18:30] <exec> 08└─Please don't call these extremists "feminists". There's enough of a kerfuffle over the term already on the internet. Feminists want equal rights for men and women. Extremist feminists are just as whacko as Extremist mens rights or Extremist muslims or Extremists christians or Extremist anything: ext...
[07:18:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Too much froth - 06The Bicentennial of George Boole, the Man Who Laid the Foundations of the Digital Age - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:18:32] <exec> 08└─Boolean algebra and Boolean logic [...] form the backbone of electrical engineering and computer science Boolean algebra and Boolean logic [...] form the backbone of digital logic and computer science There are a great many electrical engineers who do not dabble in ones and zeros as part of their re...
[07:18:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Too much froth - 06The Bicentennial of George Boole, the Man Who Laid the Foundations of the Digital Age - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:18:33] <exec> 08└─There are a great many electrical engineers who do not dabble in ones and zeros as part of their responsibilities.
[07:19:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Be careful guys.... - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 1552 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:19:14] <exec> 08└─Exactly this. For years I did the torrent bit (and many other piracy methods before that) for things like TV. First I watched on my monitor. Then I had a PC or a laptop hooked up to the TV. A few years ago this turned into a boxee, then later a WD TV Live after the boxee died. It's like a free DVR t...
[07:19:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pendulumn - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:19:24] <exec> 08└─I didn't know that. Is that relatively recent? I mentioned Netflix to some young travelling Australians (people whom you would expect to be in the target demo) a few years ago but they hadn't heard of it.
[07:19:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:not the most expensive fuelling station - 06U.S. Dept. of Defense Spends $43 Million on the "World's Most Expensive Gas Station" - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:19:57] <exec> 08└─Armies are not about having the best weapons and shiniest toys. The best armies have great logistics. And machines tend to run on oil! So gotta go and get ourselves some of that oil to make sure our armies continue working.
[07:20:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:not the most expensive fuelling station - 06U.S. Dept. of Defense Spends $43 Million on the "World's Most Expensive Gas Station" - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:20:00] <exec> 08└─Sure we did, we built a gas station there too.
[07:20:05] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03NoMaster [3543] 02Re:My father-in-law's theory - 06U.S. Dept. of Defense Spends $43 Million on the "World's Most Expensive Gas Station" - 214 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:20:05] <exec> 08└─And I think he's right: the purpose of the federal government is to provide jobs for otherwise unemployable people. Ever go to the DMV, post office, county clerk, etc. and encounter a completely incompetent worker?
[07:20:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My father-in-law's theory - 06U.S. Dept. of Defense Spends $43 Million on the "World's Most Expensive Gas Station" - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:20:12] <exec> 08└─Umm... those "normal" items can sometimes indeed be expensive (think space-rated stuff for NASA), but I'd bet in most cases are made to appear so expensive because they serve as a pretext to funnel money to other ends, e.g. black programs, bribes and so on.
[07:20:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Promising - 06Alarming Rise in Death Rates for Middle-Aged White Americans - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:20:42] <exec> 08└─Who the fuck has time to watch a random youtube video? Lamer.
[07:21:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03dierdorf [5887] (Score:1) 02Re:Wow, really? - 06Alarming Rise in Death Rates for Middle-Aged White Americans - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:21:09] <exec> 08└─"I'm pretty sure no-one gives a toss about middle-aged white men." Actually, the comment should say that no-one gives a toss about STUPID UNEDUCATED middle-aged white men. They are much more likely to belong to the NRA and the Tea Party than does the general population, and the more of them die, the...
[07:21:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Of course it is useful - 06Galician Cuisine May Be More Risque Than You Think - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:21:32] <exec> 08└─We're talking about freely available translation services, which indeed didn't exist 100 years ago, and you'd have to pay someone to translate your material.
[07:22:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why I don't use cloud storage - 06Microsoft Announces OneDrive Downgrades - 1564 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:22:17] <exec> 08└─Actually, this is an interesting idea. 1) create a new temporary e-mail address 2) create a new OneDrive account for the e-mail address 3) mount the onedrive 4) dd if=/dev/random of=/mnt/onedrive for however many GB you get for free 5) goto 1 And just keep doing that. Since MSFT doesn't throw the da...
[07:22:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Moral (not that MS will learn it) - 06Microsoft Announces OneDrive Downgrades - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:22:33] <exec> 08└─Every month, you are have an infinite quota of breathable air! You also have an unlimited supply of water (except if you're in CA). You can literally run ALL your taps 24/7 and you'll never run out of it. You won't get an infinite amount of water, but you will get an unlimited amount of water. Remem...
[07:22:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Moral (not that MS will learn it) - 06Microsoft Announces OneDrive Downgrades - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:22:35] <exec> 08└─What happens when ten people do that? One hundred? One thousand? In theory nobody was going to run up 76TB, but it happened.
[07:22:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Moral (not that MS will learn it) - 06Microsoft Announces OneDrive Downgrades - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:22:37] <exec> 08└─And the real question: why should that even matter?
[07:22:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Moral (not that MS will learn it) - 06Microsoft Announces OneDrive Downgrades - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:22:40] <exec> 08└─If you offer 'unlimited' and tell me I have 'unlimited', then I expect unlimited. What can I say, I'm a simple man! It becomes abuse when I use more than what is alloted to me. And at what point am I using more than is alloted to me? I'll tell you when: as soon as you count one farther than infinity...
[07:26:59] <exec> count new = 50
[07:26:59] <exec> count top = 1
[07:26:59] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[07:43:57] -!- exec has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
[07:44:35] -!- crutchy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
[08:43:03] -!- crutchy [crutchy!~crutchy@709-27-2-01.cust.aussiebb.net] has joined #comments
[08:43:03] -!- mode/#comments [+o crutchy] by ChanServ
[08:43:28] -!- exec [exec!~exec@utioner/T-800/BeVeryAfraid] has joined #comments
[08:43:28] -!- mode/#comments [+o exec] by ChanServ
[08:43:29] -!- mode/#comments [-o crutchy] by exec
[09:43:13] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[09:43:14] <exec> last cid = 258732
[09:45:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02bbq - 06Feeling Like a Fraud on the Job - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:45:22] <exec> 08└─Or....they have hard jobs and interact with really smart people...pretty easy to secretly believe they've skated by somehow.
[09:45:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:YES - 06Could Russian Subs Stop the Internet? - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:45:36] <exec> 08└─Your own link discounts that theory. Maybe read it next time.
[09:45:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:YES - 06Could Russian Subs Stop the Internet? - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:45:37] <exec> 08└─I find it highly unlikely that "anchor drops" or other "accidents" cut that many cables all encircling a very strategically-important area all in a single year.
[09:45:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:45:57] <exec> 08└─Feminism is the advancement of equal political, economic, cultural, personal, and social rights for women. It is in no way a threat to men's rights; indeed, without feminism human rights are disrespected, and no man or woman can live in a just world without gender equality.
[09:46:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Well.... - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:05] <exec> 08└─Your world seems to be a strange place of non sequiturs
[09:46:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Well.... - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:06] <exec> 08└─I said nothing of my worldview, only what you are arguing. Mirroring is the term that comes to mind in regard to your own actions.
[09:46:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Well.... - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 470 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:09] <exec> 08└─Let me see if I have this right: He mentions that he no longer mentors female developers. Maybe it's just me, but I heard zillions of warnings early in life that if you got into the wrong circumstances you could get in trouble or be accused of doing something you didn't do. The people who warned me...
[09:46:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Not Men. per se. . . - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 1209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:11] <exec> 08└─Real, Real men? Perhaps we have lost touch with what manliness is. I know it is confusing for those of you who played football (American). First thing to realize, cheerleaders were not cheering you, and did not, generally, want to have your babies. Secondly, no one actually wants to have sex with...
[09:46:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:motivation? - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:18] <exec> 08└─The motivation is that MRAs want to push a narrative that makes them look like victims, instead of asshats.
[09:46:20] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Username [4557] 02Re:If they're doing this, they're not feminists - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 127 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:21] <exec> 08└─If it was about equality they would be egalitarians. Since it’s purely for the advancement of women, they would be feminists.
[09:46:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:If they're doing this, they're not feminists - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 557 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:23] <exec> 08└─Feminism isn't just about women. I'm male and I'm a feminist, because I want to improve things for everyone, especially men. I see how feminism liberated women in the 60s, and want the same thing to happen for men. I guess the main difference with egalitarianism and feminism is that while they both...
[09:46:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:If they're doing this, they're not feminists - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:24] <exec> 08└─I want to improve things for everyone
[09:46:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If they're doing this, they're not feminists - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:26] <exec> 08└─Okay so you don't have any idea what egalitarianism either.
[09:46:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"equal rights and treatment for women"? - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:28] <exec> 08└─"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"?
[09:46:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"equal rights and treatment for women"? - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:30] <exec> 08└─Planting fish and cactus in the desert sand is both equal and wrong.
[09:46:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If they're doing this, they're not feminists - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:31] <exec> 08└─While we can't control what label they use for themselves, it might at least help to have a label we can use for them. I've used "cult-feminism" in the past. The implied analogy to cargo cults is imperfect, but they act so much like a cult in other ways that I think it's usable. Anyone have a better...
[09:46:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2, Troll) 02Re:I'm sorry, but this is not news. - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 641 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:35] <exec> 08└─It's not an "anonymous IRC allegation". ESR is talking to someone he knows personally but he won't give details that would expose his source. In one of his own comments about this on his page: I’m handicapped by not being able to reveal things that would make him more credible but also provide str...
[09:46:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:From the "good luck with that" dept. - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:37] <exec> 08└─Poe's law?
[09:46:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:not representative of feminists - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:39] <exec> 08└─Sounds awfully like No True Scotsman to me.
[09:46:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:not representative of feminists - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:40] <exec> 08└─Maybe their views of these so-called extremists do not represent the views of the majority of whatever group they are part of, but that doesn't mean you get to decide they're not feminists/Muslims/Christians/Men's rights activists/whatever.
[09:46:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Oh, look. A layman's opinion. - 06The Bicentennial of George Boole, the Man Who Laid the Foundations of the Digital Age - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:51] <exec> 08└─Your outsider's opinion is noted--and rejected as uninformed. -- gewg_
[09:46:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Too much froth - 06The Bicentennial of George Boole, the Man Who Laid the Foundations of the Digital Age - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:53] <exec> 08└─To be fair, they did specify "digital logic". If I want to further nit-pick, I can point out that Electrical circuits typically deal with more than 50V or 200VA (below that is the realm of electronics).
[09:46:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Definition of "Electronics" - 06The Bicentennial of George Boole, the Man Who Laid the Foundations of the Digital Age - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:54] <exec> 08└─"Electronics" means that you are dealing with semiconductors, vacuum tubes, or gas-filled tubes. Voltage levels have nothing to do with it. Thanks for playing. -- gewg_
[09:47:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shut down the MPAA - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:47:06] <exec> 08└─They claim piracy is killing their sales, not people boycotting the whole industry. If you really want to hurt them, you should refrain from Pirating their crap as well. The problem is they they have a "scorched earth" policy with respect the copyrights actually expiring. Whenever Mickey mouse is at...
[09:47:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] 02Re:The ancient paradox - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 28 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:47:50] <exec> 08└─a basic income for everybody
[09:47:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Spamalope [5233] (Score:1) 02Re:Wrong problem - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:47:59] <exec> 08└─Making a cable TV subscription a condition of Internet service is increasingly popular. They may add the cable companies streaming services as an optional or additional requirement.
[09:49:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] 02Wow, really? - 06Alarming Rise in Death Rates for Middle-Aged White Americans - 302 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:49:33] <exec> 08└─The alarming rise of suicide among white men of USA becomes 'rise in death rates for middle-aged white Americans'. No mention of gender when if it is male? Check! Suicide becomes death in middle-age? Check! Great going. First define the problem away from unwanted solutions, then try to find solution...
[09:50:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why I don't use cloud storage - 06Microsoft Announces OneDrive Downgrades - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:50:53] <exec> 08└─They're encrypting brains now?
[09:51:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Moral (not that MS will learn it) - 06Microsoft Announces OneDrive Downgrades - 627 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:51:11] <exec> 08└─My hard disk. Yes, my hard disk has a finite capacity, but I'm free to use all available capacity. It's not as if when I start filling up ma hard disk to more than 50%, the hard disk manufacturer would come and tell me that I'm not allowed to store more. Now if the hard disk gets full, I'll of cours...
[09:52:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Most advanced, stable - 06Linux Kernel 4.3 Officially Released, It's Now the Most Advanced Stable Version - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:52:56] <exec> 08└─That would not disprove their point if they had bothered to make it. you said it yourself: (Linux) will end up being a respectable operating system like Microsoft Windows.
[09:54:47] <exec> count new = 27
[09:54:47] <exec> count top = 3
[09:54:47] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[10:43:13] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[10:43:14] <exec> last cid = 258761
[10:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What the fuck? Fuck you, Red Hat... - 06Microsoft Partners with Red Hat for Linux and .NET in the Cloud - 1480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:45:12] <exec> 08└─Hellow mellow! What's happening? What's going next? Microsoft Office for Red Hat? Microsoft is now playing very trickily and trying to look bigger with other visible faces, they are more subtle blue and acting in an intrusive way as a Troy Horse. It's clear they have tons of money due to their destr...
[10:45:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02told ya - 06Microsoft Partners with Red Hat for Linux and .NET in the Cloud - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:45:13] <exec> 08└─Poettering: the next Elop [soylentnews.org]. "bail out systemd and similar abominations and keep gnu linux simple or one day your pc will autoboot into a microsoft logo" edition.
[10:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:YES - 06Could Russian Subs Stop the Internet? - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:45:37] <exec> 08└─Especially since at least one incident involved invisible boats.
[10:46:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'm up there - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:46:12] <exec> 08└─The one who eats his own toe-jam is at least principled and makes logical arguments. While ESR has said some insightful things, he has said too many dumb things to take these accusations seriously, especially with the lack of evidence presented.
[10:46:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:If they're doing this, they're not feminists - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:46:24] <exec> 08└─act like a man
[10:46:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Definition of "Electronics" - 06The Bicentennial of George Boole, the Man Who Laid the Foundations of the Digital Age - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:46:50] <exec> 08└─OK, I stand corrected. I had no idea that Arc rectifiers [wikipedia.org], while cool, were considered electronic. ..Reviewing several pages about them, I do not actually see the "electronic" term used. Articles like these [electricstuff.co.uk] are from Electrical magazines. I suspect I was mostly ri...
[10:47:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03novak [4683] (Score:2) 02Re:damn it - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 734 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:47:14] <exec> 08└─Just not true. Most current desktop monitors have terrible PPI values, it's basically around 100 PPI or lower no matter the screen size. I have used 15 (150PPI) and 17 (135PPI) inch 1920x1200 monitors and I think that's about right. 15 inch 2048x1536 (170PPI) is a little small. So if 4K is only 16:9...
[10:51:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score:1) 02Re:CRAN and R-Forge - 06Open Source R Code to Get New Hub With Help From the Linux Foundation - 856 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:51:59] <exec> 08└─I concur that there is a risk of fragmentation of the R package world. Be reminded, however, that the number of R packages starts to rival the number of perl packages and exceeds 10.000 all sources taken together. So some specialization is possible and bioconductor is one example, focusing on the an...
[10:54:47] <exec> count new = 8
[10:54:47] <exec> count top = 0
[10:54:47] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[11:43:13] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[11:43:14] <exec> last cid = 258769
[11:45:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score:2) 02Broswsers fixing bad sites - 06Firefox 42 Released - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:45:11] <exec> 08└─it is said to significantly reduce the load times of some pages
[11:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02The Question - 06Firefox 42 Released - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:45:12] <exec> 08└─from the six-times-nine dept.
[11:45:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Is Anyone Surprised? - 06Microsoft Partners with Red Hat for Linux and .NET in the Cloud - 723 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:45:23] <exec> 08└─RedHat's goal is to make money. Period. Sure, they've done good things over the years, when it suits that goal (either directly or otherwise) but never forget they're as cold-blooded and craven as any Bill Gates Microsoft ever was. For my money, their recent antics have negated any goodwill they've...
[11:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yaa101 [4091] (Score:1) 02Sounds a lot like Peter Principle... - 06Feeling Like a Fraud on the Job - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:45:32] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle [wikipedia.org]
[11:45:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not to threadjack, but this isn't my situation - 06Feeling Like a Fraud on the Job - 464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:45:34] <exec> 08└─But I find myself in the OPPOSITE circumstance. I generally feel overqualified for the work that I'm doing, and I find myself rolling my eyes at some of the amateur-hour hijinks performed by my team-mates. As a junior dev, I actually liked being the dumbest person in the room because it was a great...
[11:45:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Er kocht auch nur mit Wasser - 06Feeling Like a Fraud on the Job - 1123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:45:36] <exec> 08└─In German, there's a saying "er kocht auch nur mit wasser", A direct translation ("he also cooks [boils] with water") doesn't work very well, but it basically refers to this situation: You see some high-powered, super-competent person powering their way through life. "Wow, man, I wish I were half th...
[11:46:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 428 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:46:04] <exec> 08└─Allow me to fill you in then. Third-gen feminism is not about equality. It in fact directly opposes equality and goes instead for control, power, and money for itself through fear and the deconstruction of all things masculine. When cornered into a debate instead of a monologue they will not debate,...
[11:46:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:46:07] <exec> 08└─RationalWiki
[11:46:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 379 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:46:09] <exec> 08└─The default position when people make extraordinary claims is to doubt and require extraordinary proof. A snippet of an IRC chat with names removed on a personal blog is not proof of anything. This is going to need some independent verification, or some evidence. Why hasn't Linus said anything, or a...
[11:46:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If they're doing this, they're not feminists - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:46:41] <exec> 08└─I'm male and I'm a feminist
[11:46:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:If they're doing this, they're not feminists - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 640 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:46:46] <exec> 08└─This old chestnut. "You aren't fixing all the problems in the world simultaneously, therefore you hate everyone you are not helping". It's true that feminists did start out mainly interested in women's rights, at a time when women were far from being equal with men. Women have not even had the vote...
[11:46:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm sorry, but this is not news. - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:46:54] <exec> 08└─Sorry, but if you can't provide any corroborating evidence or other witnesses then there is no way we can believe these extraordinary claims. He says that Linus can't be left along with women. If that were true then Linus could confirm it, and would have little reason not to.
[11:47:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Definition of "Electronics" - 06The Bicentennial of George Boole, the Man Who Laid the Foundations of the Digital Age - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:47:08] <exec> 08└─You're still trying to qualify it according to -what- the circuit does--instead of HOW it does it. An electronic circuit uses 1 or more active devices. I thought of another active device: If you go back a bunch of decades, theatrical lighting was dimmed using saturable-core reactors (an inductor wit...
[11:50:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Wow, really? - 06Alarming Rise in Death Rates for Middle-Aged White Americans - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:50:01] <exec> 08└─I know, less men = more opportunity to have sex. [time.com]
[11:53:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Log? - 06UK Wants to Ban Unbreakable Encryption, Log which Websites You Visit - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:53:59] <exec> 08└─"WTF does anyone put up with this crap?" Human beings don't have any free will. See the science on human reasoning: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[11:54:22] <exec> count new = 15
[11:54:22] <exec> count top = 0
[11:54:22] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[12:43:14] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[12:43:14] <exec> last cid = 258788
[12:45:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:3, Interesting) 02kinda good maybe - 06Microsoft Partners with Red Hat for Linux and .NET in the Cloud - 1144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:27] <exec> 08└─I wish this had existed several years ago, because it would have been good in a situation I was in. What happens too often is that management listens to consultants. I was in a situation where management ripped out all infrastructure and went with these consultants who were all-Microsoft and designe...
[12:45:32] -!- SirFinkus [SirFinkus!~SirFinkus@q-37-359-375-883.hsd6.wa.comcast.net] has joined #comments
[12:46:05] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Adamsjas [4507] 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 280 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:46:05] <exec> 08└─Where were you going with that tirade? Are you stating categorically that what ESR says ISN'T true? You have some inside knowledge of this? Or are you just making political statements? I suppose he could have made it all up, it is after all very short. What would his end-game be?
[12:46:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03jdavidb [5690] 02Well.... - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 3107 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:19] <exec> 08└─Let me start by saying I love ESR on many levels. He helped introduce me to the world of free software, and he helped solidify me in my early libertarian thinking. I even visited the Hacker's Dictionary today on catb.org - thanks, ESR! I recognize he rubs a lot of people the wrong way, but overall I...
[12:46:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:motivation? - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 556 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:46:38] <exec> 08└─No, the motivation is that feminists long ago achieved all the equality they can gain by protesting (the rest is a matter of waiting on old men to die) and now have embraced the culture of perpetual victimhood to continue making undeserved gains in the same way that the perpetually racially butthurt...
[12:46:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:motivation? - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:46:39] <exec> 08└─Can you describe some of the undeserved gains that feminists got through a culture of perpetual victimhood? Then list which of them the MRAs want too.
[12:46:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:If they're doing this, they're not feminists - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:46:48] <exec> 08└─Society doesn't put pressure on men to behave like men, society puts pressure men to behave like lap dogs to feminist women who want to act like men. Feminists want to help men deal with these problems.
[12:46:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:If they're doing this, they're not feminists - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:46:50] <exec> 08└─Okay, so describe what "men acting like men" means.
[12:46:52] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:If they're doing this, they're not feminists - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 109 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:46:53] <exec> 08└─The stated goal of feminism is simple: gender equality. That is, I think we can all agree, a reasonable goal.
[12:47:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02whiskey?!??! - 06The Bicentennial of George Boole, the Man Who Laid the Foundations of the Digital Age - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:12] <exec> 08└─Michael Jackson was a Brit. Who liked Scotch whisky. Without the 'e'.
[12:48:17] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Dunbal [3515] 02Re:Commercials - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 668 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:48:17] <exec> 08└─You could also argue that "prime time" is no longer prime tv viewing time. A lot of people are now checking emails, browsing websites or playing games instead of watching TV - assuming they watch TV at all. In our house the TV is mostly background noise - I'm always on the computer during my off tim...
[12:48:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:Commercials - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:48:18] <exec> 08└─> After a lifetime of mentally tuning out the ads, we've learned to tune out the shows too. Well done, media, well done. This deserves way more than an insightful mod. People need to start getting these words tattooed onto their bodies.
[12:49:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02This is not surprise - 06U.S. Dept. of Defense Spends $43 Million on the "World's Most Expensive Gas Station" - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:49:13] <exec> 08└─Just plug the words "planes full of cash" into google and read a few linked pages. Iraq was simply an exercise in milking the US taxpayer.
[12:53:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03tonyPick [1237] (Score:2) 02Re:Well that sucks - 06UK Wants to Ban Unbreakable Encryption, Log which Websites You Visit - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:53:49] <exec> 08└─Sure, just memorize two 4GB one time pads.
[12:54:05] <exec> count new = 9
[12:54:05] <exec> count top = 4
[12:54:05] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[13:43:14] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[13:43:14] <exec> last cid = 258798
[13:45:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02I love my new boss - 06Meet your New Boss: The Algorithm - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:45:07] <exec> 08└─impartial and with no ego. also, I can get together with my colleagues and decide if we want the boss to do something differently. we would only need to fight about this with the share holders, not with the boss.
[13:45:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:I love my new boss - 06Meet your New Boss: The Algorithm - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:08] <exec> 08└─http://marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm [marshallbrain.com] Nuff said.
[13:45:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03bart9h [767] (Score:2) 02Re:I love my new boss - 06Meet your New Boss: The Algorithm - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:10] <exec> 08└─there's a scifi short story about something like that: http://marshallbrain.com [marshallbrain.com]
[13:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03MadTinfoilHatter [4635] (Score:1) 02What about the antifeatures? - 06Firefox 42 Released - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:45:21] <exec> 08└─What brain damaged features, that we need to work around with addons or obscure about:config settings in order to have a usable browser have they introduced this time?
[13:45:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Remember the OS/2 partnership? - 06Microsoft Partners with Red Hat for Linux and .NET in the Cloud - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:45:32] <exec> 08└─How did working with microsoft go for IBM? Someone's forgetting or ignoring history. Or they're showing their true colours, in which case good riddance.
[13:45:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03NickFortune [3267] (Score:2) 02Short Memories... - 06Microsoft Partners with Red Hat for Linux and .NET in the Cloud - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:45:33] <exec> 08└─I wonder if this will work out as well for them as it did for Novell. Maybe when the dust settles they'll find a job for Lennart at Xamarin.
[13:45:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Er kocht auch nur mit Wasser - 06Feeling Like a Fraud on the Job - 1171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:45] <exec> 08└─Yup. Here's a little tip that will help bring some perspective to your life. Next time you're sitting on the crapper trying to coax a particularly reluctant squishy turd out, simply remind yourself that everybody poos. I know it sounds trite, but it's one of those sayings that people simply accept w...
[13:45:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marco2G [5749] (Score:1) 02Re:Er kocht auch nur mit Wasser - 06Feeling Like a Fraud on the Job - 618 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:46] <exec> 08└─The same goes for companies as a whole. We've noticed lately that no matter the company, be it EMC, IBM, Quantum what have you are all just as incompetent and/or competent as our small 20 peope company. It's always a matter of getting the right person or team for a job. For us this is hard because a...
[13:45:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Er kocht auch nur mit Wasser - 06Feeling Like a Fraud on the Job - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:48] <exec> 08└─S/he also puts on pants one leg at a time, eh.
[13:46:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:3, Insightful) 02OHMYGOD - 06Could Russian Subs Stop the Internet? - 1117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:46:03] <exec> 08└─The Russians are coming! The Russians are coming! Seriously you Americans make me laugh. Get over yourselves already. Every time I think you've calmed down some other idiot either in NATO or the US military dreams up these "scary scenarios" where Russia suddenly destroys the United States because of...
[13:46:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:OHMYGOD - 06Could Russian Subs Stop the Internet? - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:46:04] <exec> 08└─From your linked source, the $1,000,000 washer was, in fact, a crime. One which was caught and punished by a fine (essentially for the money back) and an additional 20 years in prison.
[13:46:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score:1) 02Of course they can - 06Could Russian Subs Stop the Internet? - 1396 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:46:06] <exec> 08└─As other commentators have pointed out, remote operated mines could easily do the trick. There's plenty of submarine fibre in international waters. The hard bits are communicating with the mine; and ensuring it has enough power to monitor for communications to it and do its job when asked. In the ev...
[13:46:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score:1) 02Short Notice Communications Satellite launches - 06Could Russian Subs Stop the Internet? - 619 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:46:08] <exec> 08└─Here we go. I wasn't looking for this: http://www.theverge.com [theverge.com] A small, experimental rocket meant to carry 13 communication satellites into space for the Department of Defense failed just one minute after la...
[13:46:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sir Finkus [192] (Score:2) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:46:26] <exec> 08└─This is going to need some independent verification, or some evidence. Why hasn't Linus said anything, or any other male OS developers who are part of this supposed protection programme?
[13:46:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Well.... - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:46:40] <exec> 08└─No, that's not what I was arguing.
[13:46:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:motivation? - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 1904 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:46:55] <exec> 08└─Conviction by accusation for sexual assault by most universities across the nation.Conviction by accusation for sexual assault by the mainstream mediaDitto both of the above for sexual harassment.Redefinition of sexual assault to mean any unwanted touching at all.Redefinition of sexual harassment to...
[13:49:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Affirmative! - 06Alarming Rise in Death Rates for Middle-Aged White Americans - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:49:49] <exec> 08└─Its funny. Mod it funny. Or have you no sense of humor?
[13:51:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Town's name is incorrect - 06Galician Cuisine May Be More Risque Than You Think - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:51:06] <exec> 08└─The town's name is not "Pontes", but "As Pontes". It's some 3/4 h far from home !!!!!
[13:54:23] <exec> count new = 18
[13:54:23] <exec> count top = 0
[13:54:23] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[14:43:14] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[14:43:14] <exec> last cid = 258819
[14:45:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I love my new boss - 06Meet your New Boss: The Algorithm - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:18] <exec> 08└─Did you both just link to the Manna shortstory, referenced in the summary?
[14:45:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03geb [529] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:I love my new boss - 06Meet your New Boss: The Algorithm - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:19] <exec> 08└─How's that supposed to work in the specific example given. Can Uber drivers collectively tell the Uber app that it is doing a bad job and demand changes in working conditions? Uber is not a workers commune. It's going to be very rare to find any workplace that does fit that model.
[14:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I love my new boss - 06Meet your New Boss: The Algorithm - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:20] <exec> 08└─No you can't, because the people controlling access to the shareholders have blind faith in the algorithm. You and your colleagues will be fired and replaced with obedient drones that execute the tasks they are given without any question. Befhel ist befhel!
[14:45:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Behave... - 06Meet your New Boss: The Algorithm - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:45:22] <exec> 08└─or I'll write a script to replace you.
[14:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02No worse than call centers - 06Meet your New Boss: The Algorithm - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:45:24] <exec> 08└─They've got metrics everywhere, on overhead electronic tickers and LED boards. And I'm sure that's just scratching the surface.
[14:45:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02No it isn't - 06Meet your New Boss: The Algorithm - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:45:26] <exec> 08└─The algorithm is determined by people. And the consequences for defying the algorithm are also determined by people. So no, the algorithm isn't your boss, people are, even if they are hiding behind a computer.
[14:45:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03geb [529] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:Broswsers fixing bad sites - 06Firefox 42 Released - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:34] <exec> 08└─Google's AMP project is working towards exactly that, but it's doing it in a foolish way. It blocks almost everything that could cause slow page loading, including all javascript, but then it adds extra scripting stuff to allow google's own tracking and advertising. Instead of just ranking sites hig...
[14:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Broswsers fixing bad sites - 06Firefox 42 Released - 470 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:35] <exec> 08└─You're right and it's the reason people hated IE. IE started fixing problems with websites just so that they would at least still render 'more or less correctly'. I wonder if, in a couple of years, FF will be where IE was a couple of years ago: vilified and reviled because of all the backwards compa...
[14:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Broswsers fixing bad sites - 06Firefox 42 Released - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:37] <exec> 08└─The thing I was expecting to see in the previous comment is: <!-- [ FF gt; 43 ] -->
[14:45:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03bd [2773] (Score:2) 02Re:What about the antifeatures? - 06Firefox 42 Released - 492 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:39] <exec> 08└─I agree. To think that something that got rid of the ridiculous pile of whatever that was the Mozilla browser is now exactly the kind of beast it once replaced... kinda depressing. IMHO, Phoenix 0.5 with a modern rendering engine would actually be an improvement on most of the popular browers as far...
[14:45:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03geb [529] (Score:2) 02Re:What about the antifeatures? - 06Firefox 42 Released - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:41] <exec> 08└─They've added an indicator on tabs to show which one is playing audio. Personally I don't like it, so I disabled it. It's not a bad one really.
[14:45:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:told ya - 06Microsoft Partners with Red Hat for Linux and .NET in the Cloud - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:50] <exec> 08└─I was thinking the same thing. Perhaps this is part of the payment for torpedoing so many distros with systemd.
[14:46:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not to threadjack, but this isn't my situation - 06Feeling Like a Fraud on the Job - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:04] <exec> 08└─How about when your job requires periodic training and testing for certification, and you catch your boss filling out everyone elses certification test with your answer sheet?
[14:46:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not to threadjack, but this isn't my situation - 06Feeling Like a Fraud on the Job - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:05] <exec> 08└─How about when your job requires periodic training and testing for certification, and you catch your boss filling out everyone elses certification test with your answer sheet?
[14:46:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Er kocht auch nur mit Wasser - 06Feeling Like a Fraud on the Job - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:11] <exec> 08└─Heck, they may be looking at you (your facade) and wondering how you manage to be so good.
[14:46:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02antidote: seeing others screw up worse - 06Feeling Like a Fraud on the Job - 2524 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:46:13] <exec> 08└─It's not just a feeling. I know I miss better ways to do something. And not a little better, a whole lot better. But it has to be done, and there isn't time to indulge in perfectionism. I shoot for good enough. Often the first try isn't good enough. But you never can be sure, it's always a judgment...
[14:46:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:YES - 06Could Russian Subs Stop the Internet? - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:28] <exec> 08└─Sometimes called submarines.
[14:46:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03jdavidb [5690] 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 60 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:44] <exec> 08└─Are you stating categorically that what ESR says ISN'T true?
[14:46:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:54] <exec> 08└─So it's bullshit. If there was any evidence that these measures were needed they could publish it. Instead it's all just innuendo and rumour. This has about as much credibility as the lizard illuminati running the world. One guy with an agenda, a secret source and zero evidence.
[14:46:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:56] <exec> 08└─This has about as much credibility as the lizard illuminati running the world.
[14:46:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:00] <exec> 08└─Ada Initiative founder Valerie Aurora gave the keynote at the Ohio Linuxfest this year. I did not attend that particular talk. My reason is the same one that causes me to not attend church. I easily tire of being lectured on how I am a sinner simply by virtue of me breathing air.
[14:47:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:02] <exec> 08└─"Actually, it's about sexism in air conditioning [washingtonpost.com]"
[14:47:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 486 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:04] <exec> 08└─Feminists are not fighting for social rights for women. They're decidedly anti-choice for women on anything they see as not fitting into their agenda. Want to work in porn? Turn in your feminist card and prepare to be attacked on every front they can manage. Pro-Life? Ditto. Want to be a stay-at-hom...
[14:47:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:2) 02Re:Well.... - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 1368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:13] <exec> 08└─Best I can describe it to you is that no it definitely doesn't happen all the time and in all cases. But it definitely happens more often than you would think. Yes people lead different lives, some interesting some not so much so (and I do not mean interesting in a good way, nor that having boring l...
[14:47:24] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03mojo chan [266] 02Re:motivation? - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 107 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:24] <exec> 08└─The motivation is that MRAs want to push a narrative that makes them look like victims, instead of asshats.
[14:47:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] 02Re:motivation? - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 556 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:25] <exec> 08└─No, the motivation is that feminists long ago achieved all the equality they can gain by protesting (the rest is a matter of waiting on old men to die) and now have embraced the culture of perpetual victimhood to continue making undeserved gains in the same way that the perpetually racially butthurt...
[14:47:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:motivation? - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 894 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:29] <exec> 08└─MRAs, as near as I can follow, want none of those. They're each and every one patently unjust. What they want are actual equal rights. Things like women also having to register for the draft. Women having to meet the same physical standards in the military. The most qualified person getting the job...
[14:47:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:2) 02Re:motivation? - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:30] <exec> 08└─Easily summed up as: "I WANT EQUALITY!" "WHAT YOU ARE NOT GONNA HOLD THE DOOR OPEN FOR ME?"
[14:47:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:motivation? - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:32] <exec> 08└─I am not a big TMB fan, but his reply to this post is extremely interesting and I would appreciate it if you actually responded to it. Thanks!
[14:47:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:motivation? - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:34] <exec> 08└─How about a false flag operation by the TLAs to gain cooperation from certain individuals?
[14:47:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:motivation? - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:35] <exec> 08└─Any hint as to what they would be hoping to accomplish by doing this, if it were true?
[14:47:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oh, look. A layman's opinion. - 06The Bicentennial of George Boole, the Man Who Laid the Foundations of the Digital Age - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:46] <exec> 08└─It's a shame Analog Engineers don't use True/False or On/Off in the course of their work. It might make things easier.
[14:48:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The MPAA Strikes Back.... - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:48:25] <exec> 08└─"The MPAA Strikes Back" is the name of the next Star Wars movie. The CEO "Darth Dodd" gets Chewbacca pregnant and they have a litter of mutated retarded hermaphrodite wookies. They build a huge "Death DVD" that slices people in half who illegally torrent movies. Then they join forces with RIAA and d...
[14:49:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcross [4009] (Score:2) 02Re:Wrong problem - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:49:00] <exec> 08└─I believe that at least in my area, that kind of forced bundling is illegal. They don't have to tell you that there's an internet-only option, but they have to provide it if you ask.
[14:50:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Affirmative! - 06Alarming Rise in Death Rates for Middle-Aged White Americans - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:50:12] <exec> 08└─1999. When we had our FIRST black president still in office, Bill Clinton.
[14:51:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why I don't use cloud storage - 06Microsoft Announces OneDrive Downgrades - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:51:59] <exec> 08└─Brains have always been encrypted. Despite much effort, decryption attempts have remained of quite limited success.
[14:52:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Moral (not that MS will learn it) - 06Microsoft Announces OneDrive Downgrades - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:52:17] <exec> 08└─Then the water coming out of your tap will flow slower, and slower, and slower. But it will keep coming.
[14:54:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:Neat idea - 06Australia to Test Virtual Passports - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:54:19] <exec> 08└─I'm also a little confused about the passport card system, seeing as they're approximately useless for international travel, last time I checked. Maybe they've stopped offering them. They were issued by the passport people but were not "real" legal passports. Kinda weird, like the feds playing "just...
[14:54:22] <exec> count new = 35
[14:54:22] <exec> count top = 3
[14:54:23] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[15:43:14] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[15:43:14] <exec> last cid = 258860
[15:45:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormreaver [5101] (Score:2) 02My Gawd, It's Full of Babble - 06openSUSE Leap 42.1 Becomes First Hybrid Distribution - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:08] <exec> 08└─That was some of the most difficult to parse babble-speak I've tried reading in quite some time. News releases should be done by an English speaker, not by a marketing department.
[15:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What a drawback - 06Scientists Claim Broadcast Quality 2-D to 3-D Video Conversion from Playing Video Game - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:16] <exec> 08└─"Unfortunately, their system only works for soccer video and relies on the existence of a soccer video game." Yes that seems pretty insurmountable. If only we had the ability to make games of things other than soccer.
[15:45:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ken_g6 [3706] (Score:2) 02Re:What a drawback - 06Scientists Claim Broadcast Quality 2-D to 3-D Video Conversion from Playing Video Game - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:17] <exec> 08└─Yes, it probably works on most sports. The problem is that there's no video game that can simulate all the scenes in most movies or TV shows.
[15:45:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score:2, Informative) 02EA takeover - 06Scientists Claim Broadcast Quality 2-D to 3-D Video Conversion from Playing Video Game - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:19] <exec> 08└─... the very realistic Microsoft soccer game "FIFA13" ...
[15:45:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I love my new boss - 06Meet your New Boss: The Algorithm - 962 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:31] <exec> 08└─open source it and fight it out on github. my point was that it all comes down to who controls the algorithm. as of right now, it is unlikely than any algorithm will fit the job of a boss in most situations, since improvisation is needed. however, for specific tasks algorithms will be better than a...
[15:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03joshuajon [807] (Score:2) 02Re:No it isn't - 06Meet your New Boss: The Algorithm - 487 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:36] <exec> 08└─In many ways an impartial algorithm would be preferable to a partial, subjective, biased, bigoted etc human boss. I've only read the first couple chapters of the Manna story but it seemed like initially the workers liked it very much. The problems arose when the program began altering itself. Call...
[15:45:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:No it isn't - 06Meet your New Boss: The Algorithm - 542 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:38] <exec> 08└─My point here is that (1) the algorithm is only as impartial as its programmers and the bosses that direct them, and (2) will be modified with the goal of either improved productivity or lower wages because those are the sole goals of management when it comes to their staff. Anybody who expects the...
[15:45:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jiro [3176] (Score:2) 02Re:No it isn't - 06Meet your New Boss: The Algorithm - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:40] <exec> 08└─I think the idea is that the algorithm doesn't include personal quirks and prejudices. No algorithm of this type is going to have a line in it "reduce the score if the employee is Joe", even if one of the bosses hates Joe and cuts him much less slack than anyone else. Only human beings do that.
[15:45:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Question - 06Firefox 42 Released - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:52] <exec> 08└─But that's not the real question anyway. The real question is: Think of a number, any number.
[15:45:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score:1) 02Re:The Question - 06Firefox 42 Released - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:53] <exec> 08└─You're quite right. And Marvin knew all along. Marvin: "I am at a rough estimate thirty billion times more intelligent than you. Let me give you an example. Think of a number, any number." Zem: "Er, five." Marvin: "Wrong. You see?"
[15:46:05] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Bot [3902] 02told ya - 06Microsoft Partners with Red Hat for Linux and .NET in the Cloud - 178 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:05] <exec> 08└─Poettering: the next Elop [soylentnews.org]. "bail out systemd and similar abominations and keep gnu linux simple or one day your pc will autoboot into a microsoft logo" edition.
[15:46:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonymousCowardNoMore [5416] (Score:2) 02Re:Sounds a lot like Peter Principle... - 06Feeling Like a Fraud on the Job - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:46:21] <exec> 08└─Impostor syndrome is nothing like the Peter principle. Impostor syndrome is one of the two sides of the Dunning-Kruger effect, namely that the most capable people doubt themselves because they are aware of what they don't know. The flip side—that incapable people overestimate themselves because th...
[15:46:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not to threadjack, but this isn't my situation - 06Feeling Like a Fraud on the Job - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:46:25] <exec> 08└─Sorry... I was forced to sign a non disclosure agreement to keep working there, and beyond if I leave... which I did.
[15:46:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not to threadjack, but this isn't my situation - 06Feeling Like a Fraud on the Job - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:46:26] <exec> 08└─^I posted that^... Can you be a whistle-blower when there's an NDA?
[15:46:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02keeping up appeances - 06Feeling Like a Fraud on the Job - 903 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:34] <exec> 08└─I've started doing the facade thing because stuff changes so fast that it's not worth my time to bother learning something that is going to be gone in a year or two. The treadmill of churning change is just too fast now in the technology industry. I know if I need to learn something, I can do it, so...
[15:46:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Dunbal [3515] 02OHMYGOD - 06Could Russian Subs Stop the Internet? - 1117 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:50] <exec> 08└─The Russians are coming! The Russians are coming! Seriously you Americans make me laugh. Get over yourselves already. Every time I think you've calmed down some other idiot either in NATO or the US military dreams up these "scary scenarios" where Russia suddenly destroys the United States because of...
[15:46:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Damage, yes - tap, probably not - 06Could Russian Subs Stop the Internet? - 743 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:54] <exec> 08└─The rumors of tapping into undersea cables are likely just that, rumors. Cutting through the multiple protective layers, or even getting into one of the repeaters, to install a tap under many meters of water? Really not a practical approach. I expect that the US spy agencies are happy to let these r...
[15:47:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03jdavidb [5690] 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 457 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:08] <exec> 08└─I have now read the article and I still have no idea what the motivation of these people allegedly is. Do they want money? What is it? Am I supposed to just know? BTW, did anyone notice the article was published at breitbart? That's usually good for at least a little bit of ad hominem discrediting i...
[15:47:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:10] <exec> 08└─So you see these people as extremely dangerous and are afraid of what they could do? I would suggest if you actually know people like this that you simply have nothing to do with them - you'll be much happier for it.
[15:47:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 197 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:12] <exec> 08└─And maybe publicize it. But there's no need to bring all the rest of this into it, . (Maybe all that's in the article - true to tradition, I've posted about four times now without even reading it.)
[15:47:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:23] <exec> 08└─The thing about stereotypes is that there is within a nugget of truth, otherwise the stereotype could not perpetuate.
[15:47:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03DutchUncle [5370] (Score:1) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 474 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:26] <exec> 08└─Would you want to have your butt slapped at a convention? How about your partner's? sister's? brother's? Why should anyone expect that ANYONE can be mistreated and should then be OK with it? (For the record: Male, long-married, and some years back my wife's butt was slapped at a business app's user...
[15:47:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:29] <exec> 08└─"You can spot them. The frozen ones who come outside at lunch like sun-seeking turtles, cardigans balled up next to them, bare shoulders defrosting in the noon sunlight, no matter how wilting it is outdoors." So - dress for work. If your work space is 90 degrees, dress for it. If your work space is...
[15:47:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:31] <exec> 08└─Modern feminism is to gender equality as Andrea Dworkin is to sexual freedom
[15:47:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:33] <exec> 08└─If you want equal political, etc. stop calling it feminism and call it EQUALISM. Feminism is matriarchy, plain, simple and unequal.
[15:47:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Well.... - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:42] <exec> 08└─> No, that's not what I was arguing. I am sure you don't think you were arguing that. But that doesn't stop it from being the logical conclusion of your arguments.
[15:47:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Well.... - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:44] <exec> 08└─GP was talking about men - not all those assorted other creatures.
[15:47:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] 02Re:Well.... - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 737 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:46] <exec> 08└─Pffft, I never doubted for a second that he sounded "paranoid." Look at what happened to Julian Assange. You piss enough people off and being set-up in that manner becomes a very real possibility. And in today's hysterical political climate, macho men get the short-end of the shit-stick. We had a co...
[15:47:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Vanderhoth [61] (Score:2) 02Re:motivation? - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 910 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:55] <exec> 08└─I unfortunately have to agree. I considered myself a feminist to a degree, but in the last 5 years, you have people like Anita Sarkeesian, Maddy Brice, Samantha Allen, Lena Dunham, Randi Harper, Coraline Ada Ehmke, Shanley Kane, I could go on for quite awhile, who are using "feminism" as a way to pu...
[15:47:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] 02Re:motivation? - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 1904 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:48:00] <exec> 08└─Conviction by accusation for sexual assault by most universities across the nation.Conviction by accusation for sexual assault by the mainstream mediaDitto both of the above for sexual harassment.Redefinition of sexual assault to mean any unwanted touching at all.Redefinition of sexual harassment to...
[15:48:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:motivation? - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:48:04] <exec> 08└─MRA == SJW
[15:49:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Be careful guys.... - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:49:17] <exec> 08└─Yeah, ok. Sure. We'll talk when that happens about how to fix it. But I'll wager that conversation never happens. I'm as certain as I can be that humans will keep producing compelling art for as long as they exist.
[15:49:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Pull it off Netflix or Hulu? Hello piracy. - 06Can the TV Guys Put the Netflix Genie Back in the Bottle? - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:49:20] <exec> 08└─Obligatory [imgur.com]
[15:51:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03joshuajon [807] (Score:2) 02Re:Wow, really? - 06Alarming Rise in Death Rates for Middle-Aged White Americans - 1483 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:51:20] <exec> 08└─I'm reasonably certain you'll scoff at what I'm about to say, but it's worth a shot anyhow. Part of the idea when people talk about white privilege or male privilege is that it isn't apparent. Some have even made the argument that we are conditioned to ignore it as a fundamental part of it's nature....
[15:52:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Moral (not that MS will learn it) - 06Microsoft Announces OneDrive Downgrades - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:52:55] <exec> 08└─Your example isn't working very well. You know what would happen.
[15:54:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:Nothing tops the USPS - 06Deliveries in the Modern Age - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:54:02] <exec> 08└─And you might say "But FedEx and UPS deliver there too!", but the way they do that is to contract with the USPS to do the part of the job where the package ends up on the right doorstep.
[15:54:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:Nothing tops the USPS - 06Deliveries in the Modern Age - 998 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:54:10] <exec> 08└─I'd love USPS if only they could manage to get my packages to my door, or at least leave a damn note. Instead they just hand it to whoever happens to be standing nearby, and god only knows if or when I'll actually get it (haven't lost one yet, but they regularly disappear for a week or two before wh...
[15:54:39] <exec> count new = 31
[15:54:39] <exec> count top = 6
[15:54:39] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[16:43:14] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[16:43:14] <exec> last cid = 258900
[16:45:07] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03stormreaver [5101] 02My Gawd, It's Full of Babble - 06openSUSE Leap 42.1 Becomes First Hybrid Distribution - 179 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:07] <exec> 08└─That was some of the most difficult to parse babble-speak I've tried reading in quite some time. News releases should be done by an English speaker, not by a marketing department.
[16:45:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Hybrid? - 06openSUSE Leap 42.1 Becomes First Hybrid Distribution - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:08] <exec> 08└─So in which way is it hybrid? It comes with a Linux and a BSD kernel? Or it comes with both rpm and dpkg? Or maybe it has both SysV init and systemd?
[16:45:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:Hybrid? - 06openSUSE Leap 42.1 Becomes First Hybrid Distribution - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:09] <exec> 08└─Marketing speak nonsense. Its a long term support edition (enterprise) with access to repositories of newer software. Have your cake and eat it too, at least till one of the fancy new packages busts something.
[16:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hybrid? - 06openSUSE Leap 42.1 Becomes First Hybrid Distribution - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:11] <exec> 08└─Their new OS uses so much power that you'll need a steam engine to power your PC, but it'll automatically switch over to lithium battery during periods of activity.
[16:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What a drawback - 06Scientists Claim Broadcast Quality 2-D to 3-D Video Conversion from Playing Video Game - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:21] <exec> 08└─/setcountry ITA > things other than soccer Error: empty set.
[16:45:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03zoefff [5470] (Score:1) 02Re:No it isn't - 06Meet your New Boss: The Algorithm - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:42] <exec> 08└─But it is also the other way around. Humans can forgive your mistakes of plain forget them. Computers tend to not to forget and therefore, in principle, your mistakes could haunt you for a longer period than wanted
[16:45:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:No it isn't - 06Meet your New Boss: The Algorithm - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:43] <exec> 08└─No algorithm of this type is going to have a line in it "reduce the score if the employee is Joe"
[16:45:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Murdoc [2518] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Manna, Manna, Manna - 06Meet your New Boss: The Algorithm - 677 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:45] <exec> 08└─Every time a story comes up about automation, someone compares it to some ridiculous short story when there's a real economic system based on automation that's just sitting there waiting to be used. Technocracy [technocracy.ca] was designed to release people from the drudgery of labor so that they c...
[16:46:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is Anyone Surprised? - 06Microsoft Partners with Red Hat for Linux and .NET in the Cloud - 636 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:46:14] <exec> 08└─Lamest cop-out ever. The excuse of a company existing solely for profit and nothing else is an insult to the people doing the work, and is a popular meme being shoved down everyone's throats. Toss out this excuse and hold these groups of people to a higher standard. The higher standard that I'm sure...
[16:46:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Remember the OS/2 partnership? - 06Microsoft Partners with Red Hat for Linux and .NET in the Cloud - 967 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:46:17] <exec> 08└─There is something different this time. MS has open sourced a lot of their webstack. ASP.Net 5(vNext) is supposed to let webapps run on both windows(via .net) and linux(via mono) without code changes. There is nothing to stop redhat or some other company from building a better cloud environment for...
[16:46:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Short Memories... - 06Microsoft Partners with Red Hat for Linux and .NET in the Cloud - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:46:20] <exec> 08└─Heh good point. Any bets on MS eventually swallowing Red Hat in some fashion? Maybe as a subsidiary to try and maintain the illusion of RH retaining independence.
[16:46:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sounds a lot like Peter Principle... - 06Feeling Like a Fraud on the Job - 393 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:46:31] <exec> 08└─It's popular, and it's also fallaciously used in many instances where anyone has any degree of confidence in their skills. The Dunning-Kruger effect was never meant to apply to 100% of the population, so it is foolish to act like you know it applies to the individual person you're speaking to becaus...
[16:46:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Er kocht auch nur mit Wasser - 06Feeling Like a Fraud on the Job - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:46:42] <exec> 08└─Most aren't capable of being truly good at something; in such a case, they will live a life of mediocrity unless they find something they can be truly good at. It would be better if they simply quit and got out of the way of people who know what they are doing.
[16:46:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Er kocht auch nur mit Wasser - 06Feeling Like a Fraud on the Job - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:46:43] <exec> 08└─In reality, you're just seeing their facade, the same facade that we all put up.
[16:46:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:keeping up appeances - 06Feeling Like a Fraud on the Job - 1898 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:46:47] <exec> 08└─I tend to learn the theories behind it. The language/framework is just the minutia. I know how to do X so that it is most efficient, and I know I will need tool Y, and language Z has A that serves as Y, or it doesn't have anything like it but it has B and C that can work as Y, just not as efficientl...
[16:46:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Just catching up with the NSA - 06Could Russian Subs Stop the Internet? - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:46:59] <exec> 08└─> If anything they would be laying small remote detonation mines on the cables. Considering how any nation with the capability probably has that in their war plan too, I hope they exchange information regularly to avoid an accident from putting the mines on top of each other.
[16:47:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:OHMYGOD - 06Could Russian Subs Stop the Internet? - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:47:07] <exec> 08└─Sorry bud, I guess you drank our koolaid and believe that we have a free system where the people have a say in how things are run... Also, where else in the world is "y'all" used?? You an expat?
[16:47:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:47:28] <exec> 08└─Fear them? No. No more than I fear rust on a car body. I simply recognize them as a destructive and undesirable force that should be eradicated if you don't want everything falling to shit.
[16:47:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:47:29] <exec> 08└─I simply recognize them as a destructive and undesirable force that should be eradicated
[16:47:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:47:41] <exec> 08└─Nah, all you really need is a group of people eager to beleive it.
[16:48:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:motivation? - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 708 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:48:20] <exec> 08└─You're standing there bold face advocating unequal treatment and calling me the sexist? Tell me another one, that one was hilarious. Twitter? Yeah, I can cite you numerous incidents of Randi Harper alone brigading and dogpiling anyone who disagrees with her. I can link you the time she doxxed an off...
[16:48:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:motivation? - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:48:21] <exec> 08└─Right, you could provide these damning links of criminal behaviour that would completely and irrefutably prove you are right, but you can't be bothered to waste three minutes doing it. Pull the other one, it's got bells on it.
[16:48:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:motivation? - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:48:22] <exec> 08└─They're public info. Waste your own time.
[16:48:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:motivation? - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:48:27] <exec> 08└─Your mom == good
[16:49:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02thanks for fish and all - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:49:23] <exec> 08└─well first, thanks for all the 'archives". second: how st0pid can you be? a release group with a ownZ website? that's just wr0ng. third: didn't you get my request / suggestion to put it all on a *.onion(*)? (*) sure it's not fire-proof and water-tight but at least it's not sitting on the ground in t...
[16:49:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:thanks for fish and all - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:49:24] <exec> 08└─very nostalgic, even: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:e9d8c2751c4b4efbc41811126167b0f72a05c7da
[16:50:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Daiv [3940] (Score:2) 02Re:Have the Fitbit Surge - Price is Up - 06Fitbit's Revenues Triple on Strong Sales of Wearable Fitness Trackers - 322 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:50:15] <exec> 08└─If I hadn't gotten the Surge at a *huge* discount, I would have gotten the MS Band. My father has one and I'm rather impressed with that as well. That's why I think Surge 2 will likely fulfill the originals shortcomings. Fitbit has to see MS's success in designing the Band and I think Band 2 is goin...
[16:55:04] <exec> count new = 26
[16:55:05] <exec> count top = 1
[16:55:05] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[17:43:14] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[17:43:14] <exec> last cid = 258930
[17:45:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Valkor [4253] (Score:2) 02No time or money - 06Ask Soylent: Microsoft Surface Book: What is the Feeling of the SN Community - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:07] <exec> 08└─If I were rich I'd get it. If I had the time, I'd port NetBSD to it. It's not a toaster, but it sure gets toasty.
[17:45:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02What's the need? - 06Ask Soylent: Microsoft Surface Book: What is the Feeling of the SN Community - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:08] <exec> 08└─> the best replacement for my Zenbook was my Zenbook. Basically the only difference between my Zenbook and the latest offering > was a gen 5 i7 vs my current gen 3 i7, which really isn't much of an upgrade. In a nutshell, you didn't need an upgrade... Question number one asked when I was in standard...
[17:45:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tramii [920] (Score:2) 02Re:What's the need? - 06Ask Soylent: Microsoft Surface Book: What is the Feeling of the SN Community - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:09] <exec> 08└─What is the problem you're trying to fix?
[17:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Surface book - 06Ask Soylent: Microsoft Surface Book: What is the Feeling of the SN Community - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:11] <exec> 08└─It's a laptop. It sucks. I need a real keyboard, mouse, and a monitor I can actually read stuff on or I'd rather be offline.
[17:45:20] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Hybrid? - 06openSUSE Leap 42.1 Becomes First Hybrid Distribution - 209 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:21] <exec> 08└─Marketing speak nonsense. Its a long term support edition (enterprise) with access to repositories of newer software. Have your cake and eat it too, at least till one of the fancy new packages busts something.
[17:45:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Hybrid? - 06openSUSE Leap 42.1 Becomes First Hybrid Distribution - 841 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:23] <exec> 08└─Marketing-speak indeed. If you were to accept that this was something truly new and different, you'd think that nobody [debian.org] had ever before considered creating a more stable version of the distro (in fact, let's call it "stable"), a faster-moving but not-as-tested version of the distro (let'...
[17:45:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hybrid? - 06openSUSE Leap 42.1 Becomes First Hybrid Distribution - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:25] <exec> 08└─Isn't that exactly what Ubuntu is? A long term support edition (Debian) with newer repositories added on top.
[17:45:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hybrid? - 06openSUSE Leap 42.1 Becomes First Hybrid Distribution - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:26] <exec> 08└─Is that why suse feels like it's dragging an effing piano compared to other distros? OK, to be fair the last time I actually tried suse I was probably comparing it with mandrake. Yes mandrake, not mandriva, so that puts it at probably 10+ years. Still, it was so slow on the hardware I was using I've...
[17:45:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Soooooo...it's basically CentOS? - 06openSUSE Leap 42.1 Becomes First Hybrid Distribution - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:28] <exec> 08└─"Hybrid" "revolutionary" blah blah blah whatever *waits patiently for the one guy to post who knows what the fuck the real story is*
[17:45:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02I'm Pretty Impressed With This - 06openSUSE Leap 42.1 Becomes First Hybrid Distribution - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:30] <exec> 08└─Four whole paragraphs and not a single piece of useful information. Someone's over at SUSE has been working hard on their bullshit-fu. Whoever writes this stuff would fit right in writing political speeches. Kudos to SUSE, they've hit the big time!
[17:45:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Another CRAP Summary - 06openSUSE Leap 42.1 Becomes First Hybrid Distribution - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:32] <exec> 08└─Enough of these PRWire crap before SN turns into Slimy News.
[17:45:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:EA takeover - 06Scientists Claim Broadcast Quality 2-D to 3-D Video Conversion from Playing Video Game - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:40] <exec> 08└─Er, when did they buy EA?
[17:46:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not the first - 06Meet your New Boss: The Algorithm - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:46:04] <exec> 08└─The Hong Kong subway has been using something similar to schedule repair crews and downtime. ...Manna short story, where every aspect of our employee life is used to classify our performance.
[17:46:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Short Memories... - 06Microsoft Partners with Red Hat for Linux and .NET in the Cloud - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:46:40] <exec> 08└─This is a plot within a plot. Soon all things M$ will depend on libsystemd0.dll!
[17:46:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonymousCowardNoMore [5416] (Score:2) 02Re:Sounds a lot like Peter Principle... - 06Feeling Like a Fraud on the Job - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:46:52] <exec> 08└─Good point. I'm sure we've all seen many people who ridicule others' "incompetence" as examples of the effect and thus display it rather ironically. Perhaps we were even the fools doing so.
[17:47:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Incompetence is relative - 06Feeling Like a Fraud on the Job - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:47:08] <exec> 08└─I often feel that way because there are a lot of gaps in my knowledge, but then I look at the dumbsh8ts around me, and feel better.
[17:47:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:OHMYGOD - 06Could Russian Subs Stop the Internet? - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:30] <exec> 08└─Nice try, Vladimir.
[17:47:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:52] <exec> 08└─Oh, I can. With people who aren't actively attacking me.
[17:47:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 699 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:53] <exec> 08└─I guess I am unaware of what they are doing to you. If they are attacking you, call the police and have them arrested. If they are making offensive statements about men all being rapists and being the source of all evil or whatever, I would just separate myself from them. I wouldn't go where they ar...
[17:47:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 712 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:55] <exec> 08└─Sounds all civil but it is not civil to simply lay down and die when someone attacks your rights as a citizen and human being, it is cowardice. If there are no competing voices, they will get what they shriek for. How? Just one example for now because I doubt it will sink in or do any good. Most col...
[17:47:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:57] <exec> 08└─Sounds all civil but it is not civil to simply lay down and die when someone attacks your rights as a citizen and human being, it is cowardice
[17:47:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:58] <exec> 08└─When cornered into a debate instead of a monologue they will not debate, they will instead shriek the word misogynist over top of you until either you give up or they've had enough and cry harassment.
[17:47:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 674 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:48:00] <exec> 08└─That's the problem, they are not interested in debate. It has to be brought to them unwillingly. When they say they want a dialogue on something, they mean they want to speak their platform without opposition. Witness everything they do to avoid debate: cry harassment, label any disagreement as hate...
[17:48:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03mojo chan [266] 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 379 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:48:03] <exec> 08└─The default position when people make extraordinary claims is to doubt and require extraordinary proof. A snippet of an IRC chat with names removed on a personal blog is not proof of anything. This is going to need some independent verification, or some evidence. Why hasn't Linus said anything, or a...
[17:48:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03lyserge [5797] (Score:1) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 506 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:48:18] <exec> 08└─Feminism covers a spectrum of opinion, but you seem to be focusing on a very particular subset here. Most feminists I've encountered, in real life as well as in the media, decidedly do want equal social rights for women, and don't think that there's one true ideological way to lead your life. In par...
[17:48:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:48:20] <exec> 08└─You've led a very sheltered life then to not know any active feminists.
[17:48:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03lyserge [5797] (Score:1) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:48:21] <exec> 08└─I know plenty, thanks, and generally speaking they're nothing like your skewed vision of them.
[17:48:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:48:23] <exec> 08└─The same could be said for most Nazis, typical members of the Germen NSDAP were anything but bad people.
[17:48:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:wyministic agenda! - 06Eric Raymond: Feminists Are Trying to Frame Linus Torvalds - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:48:25] <exec> 08└─Apparently in ESR's world sexual harassment doesn't happen, it's just a wyministic plot to discredit men and advance the anti-male agenda.
[17:49:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Shut down the MPAA - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:49:09] <exec> 08└─How is that scorched earth? Scorched earth would be, right before Mickey goes out of copyright, they get a legal injunction to have all copies of any media containing him destroyed. SE requires something to be rendered useless to the invaders, not retained by the defenders for another 20 years. That...
[17:49:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:damn it - 06MPAA Strikes a Blow Against Major BitTorrent Sites and Demonii Tracker - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:49:23] <exec> 08└─But but but...you'll be missing out on Super Multiple Eyegasm Resolution! If you just stay with Super Eyegasm Resolution, everyone will point and laugh at you. It's like videogames--I don't need the picture to cause me to fall to my knees and weep at the beauty, I need a fucking PLOT that's good!
[17:54:55] <exec> count new = 29
[17:54:56] <exec> count top = 2
[17:54:56] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[18:10:07] -!- crutchy_ [crutchy_!~crutchy@709-27-2-01.cust.aussiebb.net] has joined #comments
[18:12:13] -!- exec has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
[18:14:07] -!- crutchy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
[21:15:46] -!- crutchy_ has quit [Quit: Leaving]
[21:16:10] -!- crutchy [crutchy!~crutchy@709-27-2-01.cust.aussiebb.net] has joined #comments
[21:16:10] -!- mode/#comments [+o crutchy] by ChanServ
[21:46:17] -!- crutchy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
[21:52:50] -!- crutchy [crutchy!~crutchy@135-10-9-848.cust.aussiebb.net] has joined #comments
[21:52:50] -!- mode/#comments [+o crutchy] by ChanServ