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[00:45:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02artsy - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:22] <exec> 08└─controversial arrangement of words. - This post was _________ by the CIA
[00:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Funny) 02Review of 'artsy' - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 1001 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:45:23] <exec> 08└─'artsy' -- A daring piece by A. Coward, who certainly shows a lot of potential in the art world. Anonymous Coward brings something new to the table in his debut piece 'artsy'. The first thing that one notices is the lack of capitalization on the first letter of 'artsy' and 'controversial', which no...
[00:45:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02also music - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:25] <exec> 08└─The article says the CIA sponsored jazz, opera, and classical musicians. I have to wonder whether they were also behind rock-and-roll "music", the reason the world hates America.
[00:45:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Hmmm.... - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 505 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:27] <exec> 08└─Is there ANYTHING else you would like to tell us CIA? In the 5 years after World War II, there was a dramatic increase in the number of psychology departments in which graduate students were receiving training in ANOVA techniques. This result coincides with a similar increase in journal and textbook...
[00:45:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Hmmm.... - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:45:29] <exec> 08└─Just that we have to wait another 50 years before they let us know what any of that modern art means.
[00:45:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shut up - 06New Twitter Features Re-ignite Censorship Concerns - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:45:44] <exec> 08└─Are you new? Nothing that pisses off users/people ever goes away. Sure, people bitch about corporate abuse and threaten to boycott/revolt/whatever but few follow through. Systemd, Facebook, Twitter, Xbox, Windows 10 forced-upgrades/telemetry/shenanigans, Google, Apple, unwarranted government surveil...
[00:45:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shut up - 06New Twitter Features Re-ignite Censorship Concerns - 448 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:45:46] <exec> 08└─Since 2001, successfull boycotts have been considered "economic terrorism". You are allowed to complain as long as you are not effective in doing so. In Canada, Charities are barred from eliminating poverty [thejournal.ie]. In effect, they are limited to treating the symptoms of the problem, rather...
[00:46:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Assumption of knowledge - 06From 0 to 5,000 Planets in Exactly 20 Years - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:46:01] <exec> 08└─I do remember an episode where a transporter couldn't verify the occupant successfully transported so it rematerialized them back on the ship. There was now two of the same person. One was no more of a copy than the other. Both had a right to live. Think about it with yourself. If the other version...
[00:46:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Assumption of knowledge - 06From 0 to 5,000 Planets in Exactly 20 Years - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:46:03] <exec> 08└─I thought they ensured that couldn't happen by using the energy from the destruction of the person to power the formation of the new transported person.
[00:46:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Assumption of knowledge - 06From 0 to 5,000 Planets in Exactly 20 Years - 823 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:46:04] <exec> 08└─Two comments: 1) We're in a rush to get off the planet, because we aren't going to survive for more than a tiny insignificant fraction of that geological time scale. We need to get off this planet in the next 150 years max, and we probably have 250 before life can no longer be sustained. These are o...
[00:46:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:exosubject - 06From 0 to 5,000 Planets in Exactly 20 Years - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:46:08] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Aliens_Attack [wikipedia.org]
[00:46:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Eww - 06From 0 to 5,000 Planets in Exactly 20 Years - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:46:12] <exec> 08└─At least it didn't squirt them with its Zune [soylentnews.org].
[00:46:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02pedantry alert: headline inaccurate - 06From 0 to 5,000 Planets in Exactly 20 Years - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:46:14] <exec> 08└─I went to The Extrasolar Planets Encyclopedia [exoplanet.eu] and it's telling me there are 1977 confirmed extrasolar planets, with 198 that are "unconfirmed, controversial or retracted." The article says: The current tally [exoplanets.org] lists more than 5,400 likely exoplanets, the majority from t...
[00:46:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:1) 02Re:Proof is Good - 06Landmark Study: Honeybee Queens Severely Affected by Neonicotinoid Pesticides - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:46:49] <exec> 08└─Naah, just switch pesticides. I would recommend Amiton. Totally toxic to things like flies, 1,000 times less so for bees. Also it disperses fairly rapidly when applied as an aerosol so it won't be taken back to the hive.
[00:47:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why I hate DRM so much. - 06Zune Music Service to Close - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:47:35] <exec> 08└─That's a scenario they've already dealt with as unlikely as it is, see DMCA. Copyright only gives them forever minus one day. DMCA hands them that last day as well.
[00:48:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I wish - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:48:24] <exec> 08└─My wife was going down that road. I put an end to it. She gets to keep her games. I am the admin on the box. Run your wife as a lower privileged user. It nails 90% of the junk out there. I do this to *all* the machines I touch with windows on it. Most people do not even notice. The few that do I wal...
[00:48:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not the brightest - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:48:37] <exec> 08└─No, it doesn't. If all you want is a basic WP with a terrible GUI then Libre works. (most of the time - I have had issues in the past)
[00:51:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Would YOU do it? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 1292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:51:20] <exec> 08└─"going on fifty years later nobody is interested in repeating the work" The powers that be decided to end it. It wasn't for lack of money. It was all political. We were tossed a bone, to distract us from the fact that the space program was ending. They built a general purpose (jeep) vehicle, and cla...
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[01:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Re:Ummm - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 651 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:24] <exec> 08└─TFA is pretty interesting, you should read it all, probalby. The short story is that russian propaganda was that America was culturally barren. So the CIA got some american art and promoted it both inside the States and all over the world (expecially Europe). The title of the article is a little bit...
[01:45:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hmmm.... - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:30] <exec> 08└─It is not so implausible. Bayesian stats were supposedly suppressed after WWIII: During World War II, Turning used Bayesian methodology and early computers to decipher Nazi u-boat codes. Historians acknowledge that Turing's work likely helped turn the tide of the war in the Allies' favor. His work a...
[01:45:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hmmm.... - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:31] <exec> 08└─Sorry, WWII obviously.
[01:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Hmmm.... - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:33] <exec> 08└─Is there ANYTHING else you would like to tell us CIA?
[01:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Hmmm.... - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:35] <exec> 08└─Illegitimate statistical techniques may also have been part of some cold war propaganda. Specifically the immaculate conception of NHST (null hypothesis significance testing) by anonymously combining Neyman-Pearson hypothesis testing and Fisher's significance testing. Why exactly did this get accept...
[01:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03deadstick [5110] (Score:1) 02And Banksy - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:45:36] <exec> 08└─...is a Navy SEAL.
[01:45:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And Banksy - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:38] <exec> 08└─But did he graduate top of his class? Is he even trained in gorilla warfare?
[01:45:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:And Banksy - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:40] <exec> 08└─Or even that guerilla warfare thing...
[01:45:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shut up - 06New Twitter Features Re-ignite Censorship Concerns - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:55] <exec> 08└─These days as more and more smaller businesses get replaced by a few big businesses and big businesses own most of the natural resources it's hard to boycott anything. To boycott one company leaves you with few alternatives and those alternatives often also deserve to get boycotted themselves.
[01:46:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Assumption of knowledge - 06From 0 to 5,000 Planets in Exactly 20 Years - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:46:11] <exec> 08└─They still had an episode about it. Thomas Riker [wikia.com]
[01:46:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:overturned - 06From 0 to 5,000 Planets in Exactly 20 Years - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:46:20] <exec> 08└─The major upset that people miss is that Earth was demoted from planetary status at the same time. How to destroy the Earth -- Mission statement [qntm.org]
[01:46:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Windows does it again - 06South Korean Manufacturing Industry Targeted With New Backdoor Program - 1524 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:46:45] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure about that. I've never tried, but it looks to me as if you wouldn't need root access in most systems. Just patch PATH to use /home/$USER/bin before /usr/bin, and you're most of the way there. And that's already not uncommon on developer machines. That gives you access to anything in the...
[01:47:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Why I hate DRM so much. - 06Zune Music Service to Close - 3454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:47:40] <exec> 08└─I never bought into Zune. This story details exactly why I highly resist paying for any form of DRM'd software. Nor do I have any DRM'd music, nor movies. Only the people who paid a business for DRM'd stuff are the patsies that get taken advantage of, with what they paid for rescinded at the flick...
[01:47:41] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03BsAtHome [889] 02Re:Why I hate DRM so much. - 06Zune Music Service to Close - 669 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:47:41] <exec> 08└─This is only the beginning. There are so many devices and services that limit the access to the stuff you "thought" you bought. All the infrastructure that needs to be kept alive. The same goes for games. The outcry will only start once enough junkies feel betrayed by the pusher. That would probably...
[01:47:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Why I hate DRM so much. - 06Zune Music Service to Close - 133 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:47:44] <exec> 08└─"I just guess that not many are that critical until it is too late." We're eventually going to see this with "Cloud" computing, too.
[01:48:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not the brightest - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:48:47] <exec> 08└─Well, there is always openstreetmap. Encountering vandalism during your travels would be awkward though.
[01:48:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not the brightest - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:48:51] <exec> 08└─I found an awkward content-based formatting bug. Have not gotten around to reporting it yet. Essentially image links get corrupted when you change the formatting of the surrounding text. (I do not use MS word though.)
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[02:45:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03gringer [962] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:And Banksy - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:45:40] <exec> 08└─Banksy, Gorilla warfare (see first image): http://weburbanist.com [weburbanist.com]
[02:47:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:Proof is Good - 06Landmark Study: Honeybee Queens Severely Affected by Neonicotinoid Pesticides - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:47:05] <exec> 08└─Really?? https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[02:48:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:registry hack is supposed to block upgrade - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:48:44] <exec> 08└─Control Panel > System and Security > Windows Update > Change Settings Select on first dropdown...( last entry ) -> Never check for updates (not recommended) OK ( may have to provide admin password ). done!
[02:48:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:registry hack is supposed to block upgrade - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:48:45] <exec> 08└─One more thing.... On the last line of the "Choose how Windows can install updates" page brought up on "Change Settings".... I would like to call your attention to the last line... Note: Windows Update might update itself automatically first when checking for other updates. Read our privacy stateme...
[02:49:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:Is that even legal? - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:49:13] <exec> 08└─And how are they defining the "supported lifetime of the device" ??
[02:49:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:2) 02Re:Mother Nature says... - 06Shell to Halt Tar Sands Project - 429 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:49:49] <exec> 08└─This is really funny! But joking aside, the REAL tragedy will be Bangladesh. The nerds in the know are projecting something greater than 100 million displaced people by the end of the century. Those people will be mostly Muslims, and they will be largely flooding into India, which isn't terribly fri...
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[03:45:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:2) 02Could be space plants - 06Comet Outgasses Oxygen - 698 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:45:19] <exec> 08└─I kid, I kid... This goes to show how reaction rates get REALLY slow at low temperature. The frozen ices inside of this comet probably spend most of their time in the single Kelvin digit temperature range. At that temperature, you could store oxygen and sodium in physical contact with one another fo...
[03:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:Ummm - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:45:36] <exec> 08└─The short story is that russian propaganda was that America was culturally barren.
[03:46:03] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] 02Re:line 1, column 80: stray end tag - 06New Twitter Features Re-ignite Censorship Concerns - 1373 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:46:03] <exec> 08└─You also need to understand that for a small but vocal minority freedom of speech has been seriously deemphasized in favor of emotional comfort (safe spaces) and inclusivity--which is a stalking horse for bullying anyone deemed to be tainted by "privilege". They are very much in favor of drawing a l...
[03:47:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Proof is Good - 06Landmark Study: Honeybee Queens Severely Affected by Neonicotinoid Pesticides - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:47:17] <exec> 08└─Are you new to this planet? Switch to another product that doesn't cause the problem? Are you some kind of planet hugger? The way we do things here on Earth is for a large corporation to create some GM bee's that aren't susceptible to the pesticide, and for bee keepers to buy new of bee's every year...
[03:49:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Is that even legal? - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:49:23] <exec> 08└─Why should all NDAs be unenforceable?
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[04:45:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:also music - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:45:50] <exec> 08└─No, rock and roll began with black people, and the Yale- and Harvard-educated elite of the CIA had nothing to do with black people.
[04:46:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03eravnrekaree [555] (Score:2, Funny) 02Modern art is the communist plot - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 1157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:46:01] <exec> 08└─Modern art and everything modern is damaging to the sense of beauty and destroys the sense of discernment and taste. Its all relativism , part of a complex of mentalities which is linked to a general moral decline. Good is bad, up is down and any old paint randomly spilled on a canvas is art. Modern...
[04:46:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Poe's law? - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:46:02] <exec> 08└─. . . Because there really are people fucked up enough to believe all that.
[04:47:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Proof is Good - 06Landmark Study: Honeybee Queens Severely Affected by Neonicotinoid Pesticides - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:47:30] <exec> 08└─[...] a toxicity of about 1/10 that of VX, i.e. similar to that of sarin [...] particularly effective against mites [...]
[04:47:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:1) 02Re:Proof is Good - 06Landmark Study: Honeybee Queens Severely Affected by Neonicotinoid Pesticides - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:47:31] <exec> 08└─Everything I said was true, you just have to be careful not to inhale any of it yourself. Geeze, some people are so picky, I mean they had the perfect insecticide but withdrew it because of some silly Chemical Weapons Convention. Next thing you know I'll have to take the asbestos cladding off my hou...
[04:47:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:Proof is Good - 06Landmark Study: Honeybee Queens Severely Affected by Neonicotinoid Pesticides - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:47:33] <exec> 08└─Picky, picky... I once lived in a house covered in asbestos shingles: fireproof house in a wildfire area, and no real need to inhale the shingles anyway... And now I'm wondering if it could be modified so it only affects or uptake is only by the desired targets. The pesticide, not the shingles. ;)
[04:47:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:1) 02Re:A bit on the silly side? - 06Landmark Study: Honeybee Queens Severely Affected by Neonicotinoid Pesticides - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:47:41] <exec> 08└─Pregnant humans are often more sensitive to these irritants than other humans. Pregnant humans often seem to suffer more from these irritants than other humans.
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[05:45:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Our Sun is the product of a supernova - 06Astrophysicists Produce the First Age Map of the Halo of the Milky Way - 493 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:45:36] <exec> 08└─we know that the sun is a second-generation star because of the abundance of elements other than hydrogen and helium. We know it's the product of a supernova because of the abundance of elements heavier than iron. Iron is the stablest element; anything lighter and you can extract energy through fusi...
[05:46:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02If true - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:46:03] <exec> 08└─It shows the CIA has not just been massively damaging the world politically but in art as well. I think the USA and the world would be better off if the entire CIA was shutdown. At best they serve themselves, not even the USA.
[05:46:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Shut up - 06New Twitter Features Re-ignite Censorship Concerns - 1146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:46:24] <exec> 08└─Twitter is a political platform. There is a reason why so many influential people and journalists are on it. It is not because those influential people want the world to know what they ate on a lonely night. It is because it is sort of a research tool for journalists, who can see that #NewThing is t...
[05:47:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Windows does it again - 06South Korean Manufacturing Industry Targeted With New Backdoor Program - 2119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:47:18] <exec> 08└─Hah! You clearly know little about operating system security. Otherwise you would NOT consider Unix or Linux as operating systems that are difficult to break into in terms of security. Even Multics was aiming for something better. Unix style security is crap- a user level exploit can do whatever the...
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[05:47:22] <exec> 08└─Agree, if ever there was a reason for big companies to ditch Windows forever, this is it.
[05:49:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Not my problem - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:49:08] <exec> 08└─Why it was systemd: - The same hardware and similar kernel version running an OpenRC based system worked fine. - The kernel output log showed nothing out of the ordinary. The conclusion I drew: Some of the units systemd was starting up relied on the mouse being available, and rather than, say, start...
[05:49:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:Not the brightest - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:49:29] <exec> 08└─Well, there is always openstreetmap.
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[10:15:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:On first glance - 06European Parliament Urges Protection for Edward Snowden - 6 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:15:15] <exec> 08└─Nukes?
[10:15:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Re:Ummm - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:15:52] <exec> 08└─Or, you know, it could be both.
[10:16:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:SJW's at it again - 06New Twitter Features Re-ignite Censorship Concerns - 649 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:16:29] <exec> 08└─(Psst! Runaway! Over here, man! Look, they are _not_ really puppies, OK? They are poor excuses for human beings looking to play the "discrimination just because we are male, straight, and white, and write really bad science-fiction" card. Social Justice Warriors are more than justified in going afte...
[10:17:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Windows does it again - 06South Korean Manufacturing Industry Targeted With New Backdoor Program - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:17:36] <exec> 08└─So you've got a blinkered view of the world if you think people can't pwn Linux as easily as they pwn Windows. They do, it's just your religious viewpoint prevents you from seeing or accepting it.
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[11:14:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Tu quoque - 06CIA Chief 'Outraged' by Personal Email Hack - 588 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:14:58] <exec> 08└─Goose, Meet Gander; Whats good for the kettle is good for the pot, If you have something to hide you are a criminal, ...or something like that. Too bad self-reflection is not something people in power are fond of or he might have acquired some self-awareness and realized why people are so upset abou...
[11:14:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02But... - 06CIA Chief 'Outraged' by Personal Email Hack - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:14:59] <exec> 08└─I thought that AOL CD I got in the mail was secure.
[11:15:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score:2) 02Re:On first glance - 06European Parliament Urges Protection for Edward Snowden - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:15:27] <exec> 08└─Declaring the US safe-harbor agreement no longer legal not only slaps the US government in the face, but simultaneously threatens big business in the US (who are somewhat the innocent bystanders left holding the bag). Those companies are pounding on Government desks as we speak.
[11:16:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ummm - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:16:05] <exec> 08└─And this was the precedence that led us to where we are now: A dozen police dramas per channel with mysterious funding and no viewer-ship.
[11:16:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:SJW's at it again - 06New Twitter Features Re-ignite Censorship Concerns - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:16:43] <exec> 08└─Ho-hum. I stand with Vox Day and Tom Kratman on the issue. The puppies are NOT mysogenists. Oh, a couple of them might be. It's possible. But, as a group, no they are not. But, you keep drinking that Kool-Aid. It's a free country after all.
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[12:14:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02You made a story out of that? - 06Sony BMG Rootkit Scandal: 10 Years Later - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:40] <exec> 08└─Excellent job, takyon. That thing was nothing but a link farm as it was submitted. crutchy's subs through exec are often better.
[12:14:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Outrage? - 06CIA Chief 'Outraged' by Personal Email Hack - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:50] <exec> 08└─Feel violated, Mr. Director? But it's ok when the government does it, right? Just pretend those hackers were actually government workers and then all should be well.
[12:14:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Errm - 06Novena: A Laptop With No Secrets - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:58] <exec> 08└─A Laptop WIth No Secrets
[12:18:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Cadsoft EAGLE has DRM - 06Zune Music Service to Close - 529 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:18:39] <exec> 08└─Previously here, Markus Zingg's misadventure with Cadsoft was mentioned. [soylentnews.org] If you use their product, you may be punished for the acts of others. To avoid that, if you use their product, you must make ALL of your *.DEVs yourself. If you reuse one that someone else made (using a cracke...
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[13:14:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02not nearly enough - 06Sony BMG Rootkit Scandal: 10 Years Later - 609 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:40] <exec> 08└─Any corporation that has committed such outrageous offenses against their customers should be out of business. Notice, I did not use the word "crimes", but "offenses". It seems that people like being abused, because they keep going back for more. Ultimately, Sony profits. Yeah, they lost some here a...
[13:14:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03SrLnclt [1473] (Score:2) 02Re:not nearly enough - 06Sony BMG Rootkit Scandal: 10 Years Later - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:41] <exec> 08└─I haven't bought a Sony product in a decade, and have no intention to do so any time soon. I'm guessing I'm not the only one here. Unfortunately the general population is stupid when it comes to things like this.
[13:14:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:Outrage? - 06CIA Chief 'Outraged' by Personal Email Hack - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:52] <exec> 08└─But the argument cuts both ways dosen't it? Also, when the CIA or NSA get information they do not generally release it into the public domain. I'd rather they stole my data than random hackers.
[13:14:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Isn't that cute? - 06CIA Chief 'Outraged' by Personal Email Hack - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:53] <exec> 08└─The neighborhood bully gets his ass kicked, and he feels "violated".
[13:15:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:On first glance - 06European Parliament Urges Protection for Edward Snowden - 769 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:15:18] <exec> 08└─You're overstating the situation, somewhat. The US might set up a covert operation against any EU nation that gives Snowden asylum, but the US isn't going to rattle it's nuclear arsenal against any EU nation. And, of course, there is the potential for any covert operation to backfire. The US might r...
[13:15:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:On first glance - 06European Parliament Urges Protection for Edward Snowden - 558 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:15:23] <exec> 08└─I have to echo deimtee's sentiment. SOME US corporations might be innocent bystanders here, but most certainly not all of them. Many of our largest corporations are not only complicit, but they actually drive government. Refer to CISPA, or CISA, or whatever name it goes by today. Government becomes...
[13:15:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Covalent [43] 02Could be space plants - 06Comet Outgasses Oxygen - 698 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:39] <exec> 08└─I kid, I kid... This goes to show how reaction rates get REALLY slow at low temperature. The frozen ices inside of this comet probably spend most of their time in the single Kelvin digit temperature range. At that temperature, you could store oxygen and sodium in physical contact with one another fo...
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[14:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score:1) 02Time lords? I can see it now... - 06Time Lords Set for Three-Week Battle Over Leap Seconds - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:38] <exec> 08└─The Doctor and The Master fighting over who gets to set the pocket-watch to the correct time, while Romana rolls her eyes and wanders off...
[14:14:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Time lords? I can see it now... - 06Time Lords Set for Three-Week Battle Over Leap Seconds - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:39] <exec> 08└─Then the daleks, having time-travelled from the future, turn up and exterminate everyone. This causes a time paradox and the damage it does to causality causes the universe to implode. Suddenly leap seconds or internet server problems didn't seem important any more.
[14:14:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Time lords? I can see it now... - 06Time Lords Set for Three-Week Battle Over Leap Seconds - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:40] <exec> 08└─"Jelly baby?"
[14:14:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I'm not going to miss it - 06Time Lords Set for Three-Week Battle Over Leap Seconds - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:42] <exec> 08└─During one of the recent SN Leap Year meetups, I couldn't figure out where the leap second went in the countdown so I was like "5.. 4.. 3.. 2.. 1.. 1.." While everyone else was chanting "3.. 2.. 1.. 0.. 0!" I left without drinking the brut.
[14:14:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:You made a story out of that? - 06Sony BMG Rootkit Scandal: 10 Years Later - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:52] <exec> 08└─Never forget.
[14:14:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:not nearly enough - 06Sony BMG Rootkit Scandal: 10 Years Later - 1141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:55] <exec> 08└─There is hope. Recall an even earlier incident, Turbo Tax software screwing with sector 0 of your hard drive. At worst, your computer would not be able to boot up again, and the partition information was overwritten, making file recovery painful. They put our data at risk, to protect their precious...
[14:15:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Outrage? - 06CIA Chief 'Outraged' by Personal Email Hack - 764 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:05] <exec> 08└─Point taken. Better to be violated in private, than in public. Except - government isn't private either. Government does things like secretly putting you on a no-fly list. Government decides that you need to be violated every time you fly. Government has sought to make these invasive searches and in...
[14:15:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Koen [427] (Score:2) 02Re:On first glance - 06European Parliament Urges Protection for Edward Snowden - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:32] <exec> 08└─I agree, I just want to point out that Switzerland is not a EU member [wikipedia.org].
[14:16:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:also music - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:16:19] <exec> 08└─Rock and roll was a combination of multiple genres of music. It wasn't a black invention. Early on it was relatively common for a song to be charted for country, rock and blues in the same week from the same album. You can't ascribe it to one racial group or another without overlooking essential con...
[14:16:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Modern art is the communist plot - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:16:33] <exec> 08└─Except that modern art isn't popular art. Katy Perry is extremely popular in large part because most people get her songs. Few people get Pollock's work. And you can't reprint Rothko and still have something worth looking at. The prints are never acceptable. But a Kincaid print is popular because yo...
[14:17:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shut up - 06New Twitter Features Re-ignite Censorship Concerns - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:17:00] <exec> 08└─Twitter is a political platform.
[14:19:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03rob_on_earth [5485] (Score:1) 02Maybe now they can release the keys, for Linux - 06Zune Music Service to Close - 608 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:19:24] <exec> 08└─I was gifted a Zune when they first came out and I was impressed, but there was no way to use it with Linux. Rather anoyingly the Xbox at the time hackers HAD recovered the keys but chose not to publish them due to legal issues. There should be a strict life on all DRM, companies must put the DRM ke...
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[15:14:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Keyword - 06Astronaut Scott Kelly Breaks US Spaceflight Record - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:36] <exec> 08└─"By an american" being the keyword here... Let me know when an actual record is set... Next thing you know, we'll have a new record set by a guy from Pennsylvania, and then from Pittsburgh, and then from Newton street... This is a meaningless 'record'.
[15:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Keyword - 06Astronaut Scott Kelly Breaks US Spaceflight Record - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:38] <exec> 08└─Congratulations, you just broke the record for the most butthurt contained in one post!
[15:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Keyword - 06Astronaut Scott Kelly Breaks US Spaceflight Record - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:39] <exec> 08└─Where's the butthurt in that post? At most, I detect a "sigh, how dumb"...
[15:14:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm not going to miss it - 06Time Lords Set for Three-Week Battle Over Leap Seconds - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:50] <exec> 08└─There are 1 types of computer scientists. Those who reflexively index everything starting with zero, and those who don't.
[15:15:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:not nearly enough - 06Sony BMG Rootkit Scandal: 10 Years Later - 758 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:04] <exec> 08└─easy peasy japanesy: korporations are in the saddle, and the devil take the hindmost ! ! ! in amerika, it was at least pretended for a while, that korporations had to observe several basic tenets: 1. they were of limited duration 2. they had a specific purpose 3. AND said purpose had to directly ben...
[15:15:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:Tu quoque - 06CIA Chief 'Outraged' by Personal Email Hack - 387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:13] <exec> 08└─um, okay, you were probably drink posting... (*why* do i DESPISE the britishism/euroism of 'drink driving', it drives *me* to drink ! ! !) what is sauce for the goose, is sauce for the gander and i guess the other one was supposed to be pot calling the kettle black ? in any event, could have been su...
[15:15:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't that cute? - 06CIA Chief 'Outraged' by Personal Email Hack - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:20] <exec> 08└─Kinda like this. [theonion.com]
[15:15:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:On first glance - 06European Parliament Urges Protection for Edward Snowden - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:46] <exec> 08└─Holy crap - I've exposed my ignorance. Had anyone told me that without a citation, I'd have just rolled my eyes at the poor moron. Now, I'm ingtigued - WTF not? Don't worry, I'll use the internet to find out. Thanks, Koen.
[15:15:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:On first glance - 06European Parliament Urges Protection for Edward Snowden - 526 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:50] <exec> 08└─Why won't the US grant Snowden asylum? Most of those reasons apply to the no votes on the EU side too. A number of European intelligence agencies got burned by the Snowden revelations. And Snowden getting rewarded for whistleblowing in the EU could encourage EU-side whistleblowing. Finally, I think...
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[16:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Still a Seagate - 06 Seagate Unveils Enlarged Spy Drive With Support for 64 Spycams - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:37] <exec> 08└─One of the most unreliable POS's around. https://www.backblaze.com [backblaze.com]
[16:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Still a Seagate - 06 Seagate Unveils Enlarged Spy Drive With Support for 64 Spycams - 357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:38] <exec> 08└─To be fair they are ~WD or better on the newer drives. Do not buy a 3tb or 1.5tb from them. What I am wondering is how a HD supports cameras? It is storage? Storage is storage and it either can or can not sustain a particular throughput. It either supports the SATA spec or it doesnt. This looks like...
[16:14:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03tynin [2013] (Score:2) 02Re:Keyword - 06Astronaut Scott Kelly Breaks US Spaceflight Record - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:49] <exec> 08└─Indeed. Scott Kelly is right at halfway point as the longest record holder, Valeri Polyakov [wikipedia.org], who spent 14 months on Mir.
[16:15:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm not going to miss it - 06Time Lords Set for Three-Week Battle Over Leap Seconds - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:03] <exec> 08└─There are one types of people who try to tell that joke: those that confuse cardinals and ordinals, and those that don't.
[16:15:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Programmers, meet time - 06Time Lords Set for Three-Week Battle Over Leap Seconds - 418 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:04] <exec> 08└─Required reading: http://infiniteundo.com [infiniteundo.com] To put it plainly, your systems should not be encountering problems due to leap seconds. Your systems should not be encountering problems due to leap centuries either, if you ever...
[16:15:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Programmers, meet time - 06Time Lords Set for Three-Week Battle Over Leap Seconds - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:05] <exec> 08└─I'm not going to invite that guy to my next code review, since I want to leave before 9 PM.
[16:15:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score:2) 02Re:not nearly enough - 06Sony BMG Rootkit Scandal: 10 Years Later - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:17] <exec> 08└─I haven't bought a Sony product in a decade, and have no intention to do so any time soon.
[16:15:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score:2) 02Re:not nearly enough - 06Sony BMG Rootkit Scandal: 10 Years Later - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:19] <exec> 08└─Not good enough. Not even close. See, their fines and costs of replacement/settlement were laughable. From a corporate perspective, they still made money. The lesson wasn't punitive. It was the barest slap on the hand, amounting to "well, let's not get caught next time." It needed to be "these fucke...
[16:15:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03hash14 [1102] (Score:2) 02Re:Outrage? - 06CIA Chief 'Outraged' by Personal Email Hack - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:34] <exec> 08└─Except that it's even worse when it's done by people in the government who know you and are using their spying "privileges" to target you specifically: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] LOVEINT is the practice of intelligence service employees making use of their extensive monit...
[16:15:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Isn't that cute? - 06CIA Chief 'Outraged' by Personal Email Hack - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:37] <exec> 08└─They're not supposed to fight back. In my experience a large portion of bullies are cowards and ultimately can't handle being attacked. Anyways, it's just rich that after years of illegal and abusive tactics the CIA is surprised that other people can get into email accounts. It's not like this accou...
[16:15:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:Errm - 06Novena: A Laptop With No Secrets - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:47] <exec> 08└─>we took the unusual measure of extending the analog frequency response of the headphone jack to below 20 Hz That's silly. Even assuming you can hear it with your ears (and not feel the vibrations with your body), you'd need a pair of headphones that can reproduce that low a frequency with enough po...
[16:15:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Hope they are reading this - 06Novena: A Laptop With No Secrets - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:49] <exec> 08└─This is the most awesomely impressive and gratifying project I've seen in ... just about ever! I would LOVE to have one of these. I couldn't care less about 3D graphics.
[16:17:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rich [945] (Score:2) 02Chthonic vs. Tengger Cavalry - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 571 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:17:10] <exec> 08└─I wonder if either of these bands has ..um.. generous backers. As we can read on the Wiki, "[Chthonic] was covered by the US mainstream media, including ABC television, New York Times, Los Angeles Times, Washington Post, and others". That's quite some audience for a black metal band. The last time I...
[16:17:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmn32480 [443] (Score:2) 02Re:Shut up - 06New Twitter Features Re-ignite Censorship Concerns - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:17:35] <exec> 08└─Slashdot?
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[17:14:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Still a Seagate - 06 Seagate Unveils Enlarged Spy Drive With Support for 64 Spycams - 781 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:14:40] <exec> 08└─"this looks like market segmentation" When I started shopping for hard drives, I felt much the same way. I could get this drive for $x, or I could get that drive with the word "enterprise" tagged on for $x+. And, I couldn't really find a difference between the two. The single tag that I found that s...
[17:14:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02CCTV - 06 Seagate Unveils Enlarged Spy Drive With Support for 64 Spycams - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:41] <exec> 08└─CCTV = Spy? I guess you don't own a store.
[17:14:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:CCTV - 06 Seagate Unveils Enlarged Spy Drive With Support for 64 Spycams - 729 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:14:43] <exec> 08└─Just be glad the person is now aware of what is going on. Maybe if people looked up from their phones now and then, they'll see how they are spied on in the real world, too. Sadly, most people were too busy on facebook to notice. It is not like there are ads for "and now with more night vision motio...
[17:15:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Programmers, meet time - 06Time Lords Set for Three-Week Battle Over Leap Seconds - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:10] <exec> 08└─I'm not going to invite that guy to my next code review, since I want to leave before 9 PM.
[17:15:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Re:not nearly enough - 06Sony BMG Rootkit Scandal: 10 Years Later - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:23] <exec> 08└─I haven't bought a Sony product in a decade
[17:15:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] 02Re:not nearly enough - 06Sony BMG Rootkit Scandal: 10 Years Later - 758 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:26] <exec> 08└─easy peasy japanesy: korporations are in the saddle, and the devil take the hindmost ! ! ! in amerika, it was at least pretended for a while, that korporations had to observe several basic tenets: 1. they were of limited duration 2. they had a specific purpose 3. AND said purpose had to directly ben...
[17:15:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Re:not nearly enough - 06Sony BMG Rootkit Scandal: 10 Years Later - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:28] <exec> 08└─I agree with you, but whenever you are hating on corporations, remember it is governments that allow them to exist, so there's guilt enough to go around. We need: * Death penalty for corporations * The corporate structure cannot shield the people in charge from liability for their actions
[17:15:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03meisterister [949] (Score:2) 02Way of Celebrating - 06Sony BMG Rootkit Scandal: 10 Years Later - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:15:30] <exec> 08└─Be sure to collect any Sony BMG records/CDs you have, rip them in Linux, and spread the media out among as many devices and computers as you can! Bonus points for using a free codec like OGG.
[17:15:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03mmcmonster [401] (Score:2) 0210 years of my Boycott and still going strong... - 06Sony BMG Rootkit Scandal: 10 Years Later - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:15:32] <exec> 08└─So I guess it's been almost 10 years since I boycotted Sony. None of their hardware (and I buy and influence the purchase of a reasonable amount of software) in 10 years. It was actually quite painless. Lots of competition for their TVs and such. Just had to accept that I would have to pay less to g...
[17:15:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Tu quoque - 06CIA Chief 'Outraged' by Personal Email Hack - 588 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:15:39] <exec> 08└─Goose, Meet Gander; Whats good for the kettle is good for the pot, If you have something to hide you are a criminal, ...or something like that. Too bad self-reflection is not something people in power are fond of or he might have acquired some self-awareness and realized why people are so upset abou...
[17:15:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Re:Outrage? - 06CIA Chief 'Outraged' by Personal Email Hack - 764 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:44] <exec> 08└─Point taken. Better to be violated in private, than in public. Except - government isn't private either. Government does things like secretly putting you on a no-fly list. Government decides that you need to be violated every time you fly. Government has sought to make these invasive searches and in...
[17:16:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:Amazing legal crap - 06VMware vs German Kernel Developer: Filings Flung in Linux-Lifting Lawsuit - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:31] <exec> 08└─A closed-source property software company is arguing interoperability extends to code as well as documents... And a virtual machines developer at that... Amazing indeed :D
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[18:14:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02One and two - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:36] <exec> 08└─1) 'technologists' serve your corporate overlords 2) It's already here, where have you been the last fourteen years?
[18:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:One and two - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:37] <exec> 08└─That typical troll-sounding AC post nailed it. Right on both counts. - different AC
[18:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:3, Interesting) 02No Exit - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 583 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:39] <exec> 08└─"So this is hell. I'd never have believed it. You remember all we were told about the torture-chambers, the fire and brimstone, the "burning marl." Old wives' tales! There's no need for red-hot pokers. Hell is—other people!" Jean-Paul Sartre, No Exit What you are describing is simply the inevitabl...
[18:14:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The technology is only part of the problem - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 4167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:41] <exec> 08└─What you're looking for, technologically speaking, is a new protocol and environment which supports the interoperation of an indefinite number of mutually untrusting nodes. If you're sitting in your basement/livingroom/pornpalace/library, you have to start with the assumption that every single line...
[18:14:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Maybe these surveillance systems already do this - 06 Seagate Unveils Enlarged Spy Drive With Support for 64 Spycams - 540 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:53] <exec> 08└─I know this is common sense and maybe these surveillance systems already do this but is the most recent data stored on two hard drives for redundancy? One drive can be designed only to store 8TB of the most recent data and to write over the oldest data that's on it as new data comes in. That same da...
[18:15:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Keyword - 06Astronaut Scott Kelly Breaks US Spaceflight Record - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:15:05] <exec> 08└─Punt him out an airlock. Then he should easily be able to get and retain the record for "time spent in space by a human from Earth".
[18:15:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Entropy [4228] (Score:2) 02Re:Programmers, meet time - 06Time Lords Set for Three-Week Battle Over Leap Seconds - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:15:22] <exec> 08└─Yeah..So...If your code doesn't have any of the most common programming errors then you'll be 100% fine, got it. And if any code your code uses doesn't have any of the most common errors....or other errors, that might mimic them. Yep that makes me feel better.
[18:15:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:not nearly enough - 06Sony BMG Rootkit Scandal: 10 Years Later - 1656 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:15:39] <exec> 08└─Good enough for you? Seriously? Why? A pittance of money from the recall was sufficient punishment? Dude, you sound like a corporate apologist saying that finances made them see what was wrong and what was right, and that's a perfectly acceptable substitution for regulators, handcuffs, and prison se...
[18:15:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:10 years of my Boycott and still going strong.. - 06Sony BMG Rootkit Scandal: 10 Years Later - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:15:44] <exec> 08└─Just had to accept that I would have to pay less to go with a different brand.
[18:15:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Lets also not forget - 06Sony BMG Rootkit Scandal: 10 Years Later - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:15:46] <exec> 08└─about the Sony's Playstation demo disc that corrupted all game data on any memory card that was plugged in. I lost almost a years worth of Gran Turismo progress along with every other game progress.
[18:15:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Tu quoque - 06CIA Chief 'Outraged' by Personal Email Hack - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:15:57] <exec> 08└─Nah, this is a site for nerds and geeks. We thrive in the details. We revel in finding mistakes. Making statements that are almost but not quite right in an amusing manner gathers far more attention than saying anything witty or fashionable.
[18:15:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:Tu quoque - 06CIA Chief 'Outraged' by Personal Email Hack - 379 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:15:59] <exec> 08└─OTW: "have fun eating your own dogfood!" I truly hope that more top-level officials get doxed and doxed with seriously damaging consequences. its the only way for the idiots who RUN this country to finally understand what the rest of us are having to put up with. maybe they need to burn their hands...
[18:15:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Dunbal [3515] 02Outrage? - 06CIA Chief 'Outraged' by Personal Email Hack - 165 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:16:00] <exec> 08└─Feel violated, Mr. Director? But it's ok when the government does it, right? Just pretend those hackers were actually government workers and then all should be well.
[18:16:03] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Isn't that cute? - 06CIA Chief 'Outraged' by Personal Email Hack - 68 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:16:04] <exec> 08└─The neighborhood bully gets his ass kicked, and he feels "violated".
[18:16:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03dak664 [2433] (Score:1) 02Re:Could be space plants - 06Comet Outgasses Oxygen - 430 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:58] <exec> 08└─The 10 Kelvin doubling is usual for typical chemical reactions (activation energies around 50kJ/mol) at room temperature ~300K, because of the change in the rate factor exp(-Ea/RT). At low temperatures, and particularly in rarefied atmospheres, entropy probably drives the distribution of final produ...
[18:17:17] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Whoever [4524] 02Re:Ummm - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 82 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:17:17] <exec> 08└─The short story is that russian propaganda was that America was culturally barren.
[18:17:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Chthonic vs. Tengger Cavalry - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:17:41] <exec> 08└─As we can read on the Wiki, "[Chthonic] was covered by the US mainstream media, including ABC television, New York Times, Los Angeles Times, Washington Post, and others". That's quite some audience for a black metal band.
[18:18:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Shut up - 06New Twitter Features Re-ignite Censorship Concerns - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:18:10] <exec> 08└─Except not.
[18:18:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03dak664 [2433] (Score:1) 02Re:Assumption of knowledge - 06From 0 to 5,000 Planets in Exactly 20 Years - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:18:32] <exec> 08└─Even if they have something far superior they will have passed through electromagnetic signalling and will know how simple it is to detect a low power narrowband signal having no doppler shift relative to the galactic center. Seems an obvious choice for them to broadcast if they want to be detected,...
[18:18:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03dak664 [2433] (Score:1) 02Re:New technology - 06Coating Cancels Acoustic Scattering from Odd-shaped Objects - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:18:53] <exec> 08└─From TFA, "The key significance of this work? It's the "formulation of a more general approach using acoustic scattering cancellation for complex, odd-shaped objects," said Guild. Previously, the approach was considered only for relatively simple shapes such as solid spheres and cylinders." Apparent...
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[19:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:One and two - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:39] <exec> 08└─What does everyone think that CISPA is all about?
[19:14:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:No Exit - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:41] <exec> 08└─What you are describing is simply the inevitable, oppressive result of living with other people.
[19:14:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:The technology is only part of the problem - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 755 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:43] <exec> 08└─Tor is a beginning, that satisfies part of those requirements. I2P is a better beginning, which satisfies more of those requirements. Both are subject to MIM attacks, but less so than any of the current common protocols. The people at I2P are pretty serious about development. The one major fault tha...
[19:14:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:The technology is only part of the problem - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 845 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:45] <exec> 08└─What you're looking for, technologically speaking, is a new protocol and environment which supports the interoperation of an indefinite number of mutually untrusting nodes. If you're sitting in your basement/livingroom/pornpalace/library, you have to start with the assumption that every single line...
[19:14:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:The technology is only part of the problem - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 964 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:47] <exec> 08└─I've been following urbit for awhile, a better comparison than urbit and diaspora would be diaspora tried to use ruby on rails for an underlying language and in theory urbit would make a better underlying system to write diaspora 2.0 upon. At least as I understand it. Another problem is urbit as a n...
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[19:14:49] <exec> 08└─Fairly good summary AC, something that annoys me about the linked article kind of in parallel with what you're saying is the threat analysis seems to carefully implement NIH and top down ivory tower... so all the work done on freenet, i2p, tor, just pretend nothing ever happened and its blank slate...
[19:14:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The technology is only part of the problem - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 1438 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:50] <exec> 08└─TL;DR: If your foundations are cracked, building on them is worse than pouring a fresh foundation. Fairly good summary AC, something that annoys me about the linked article kind of in parallel with what you're saying is the threat analysis seems to carefully implement NIH and top down ivory tower......
[19:14:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:The technology is only part of the problem - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 524 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:52] <exec> 08└─I'd point out that real decentralization would require (I know, this is one of my hobby horses) ubiquitous symmetrical ISP/last mile network connections and strong network neutrality rules. If we have that, real decentralization is possible. Without it, individuals have a wheelbarrow for consumption...
[19:14:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02First, retain a sense of scale - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:54] <exec> 08└─Worse: whatever state tyranny exists, it's obviously dwarfed by the private, free-market, corporate tyrannosaurs that stalk the cloud today.
[19:14:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Really excellent article - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:56] <exec> 08└─I glanced at TFA - and wound up reading it all the way through. Dunno if it's possible, but the philosophy it absolutely right.
[19:15:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Re:Still a Seagate - 06 Seagate Unveils Enlarged Spy Drive With Support for 64 Spycams - 469 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:03] <exec> 08└─Seagate = shit. It's been that way for a long time and it remains that way. Over the last three years I've bought three Seagate external HDs and ALL of them have gone bad. I've gone to Costco to replace them and two of the Seagates I've bought from them were bad, generating write errors or so MacOS...
[19:15:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe these surveillance systems already do thi - 06 Seagate Unveils Enlarged Spy Drive With Support for 64 Spycams - 1573 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:07] <exec> 08└─Most systems I have come into contact with only have failures noted when someone goes to look at something; drives have been dead for a while and IT people did not notice because they dont want to be accused to creepy etc. And its on an isolated network with no monitoring or firewalled off incorrect...
[19:15:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Things in the sky - 06Time Lords Set for Three-Week Battle Over Leap Seconds - 1095 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:36] <exec> 08└─Back when we (humans) were younger and dumber, we noticed that things in the sky seemed to happen at somewhat regular intervals, and decided to center our lives around them. That makes sense when your survival depends on knowing when to plant the crops, but not so much when the most important thing...
[19:15:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Way of Celebrating - 06Sony BMG Rootkit Scandal: 10 Years Later - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:56] <exec> 08└─Use FLAC. Not OGG.
[19:16:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:On first glance - 06European Parliament Urges Protection for Edward Snowden - 1026 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:16:49] <exec> 08└─You realize that Snowden tells the story of his days in Switzerland, when the CIA was running ops against the local bankers [businessinsider.com], right? Greece seems to be less on the spy agenda, probably because they're poor. Spies tend to spy on the powerful, because the powerful can cause troubl...
[19:17:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03tadas [3635] (Score:2) 02Re:Modern art is the communist plot - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:17:53] <exec> 08└─Well done. You now qualify as the cranky uncle at Soylent's Thanksgiving dinner.
[19:17:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Modern art is the communist plot - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 780 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:17:54] <exec> 08└─Whenever I hear the word Modern I think of "hideous windows interface". Thank you for describing it as it truly is -- a communist plot to take over America! Except I think it's working even though so many people could not identify a socialist/communist plot if it hit them with a generous benefits pa...
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[20:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Streisand - 06USDA Scientist Punished for Pollinator Research - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:38] <exec> 08└─Man -- whoever it is who wants this research suppressed, just found the best way to make sure everyone knows about it. Power never learns, which is good.
[20:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Streisand - 06USDA Scientist Punished for Pollinator Research - 481 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:39] <exec> 08└─We went through this in Canada as well with our current (very soon to be former) fascist/autocratic government. It was pro corporation, anti-environmentalism, and anti-science. I'm guessing the big factor is the corporate control of the government that seems to be so wide-spread in the US government...
[20:14:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:The technology is only part of the problem - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:57] <exec> 08└─I've been following urbit for awhile, a better comparison than urbit and diaspora would be diaspora tried to use ruby on rails for an underlying language and in theory urbit would make a better underlying system to write diaspora 2.0 upon. At least as I understand it.
[20:15:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The technology is only part of the problem - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 903 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:15:01] <exec> 08└─You're not perfectly correct. The right protocol running over whatever transport produces network neutrality because the provider doesn't have a clear (or hardly any) idea of what is really being transported. As for the problem of asymmetry, if you have a protocol which is topology-independent, that...
[20:15:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:The technology is only part of the problem - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:15:03] <exec> 08└─Also, in the general sense, even upstream bandwidth is so hugely beyond what it was when the public internet was still in short pants, that it looks like breathtaking luxury by comparison. The problem is gatekeepers preventing people from offering services, not a fundamental inadequacy of the infras...
[20:15:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03fadrian [3194] (Score:2) 02Re:The technology is only part of the problem - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:15:05] <exec> 08└─Decentralization won't trump law. When it becomes illegal to run "terrorist" software... they will find you by other means. The solution is never technological because it can always be trumped by a large enough group of your neighbors. Understand that this is a social not a technological problem. So...
[20:15:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The technology is only part of the problem - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 453 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:15:07] <exec> 08└─The famous Second Amendment Solution, of course, how could we forget that. If everyone is always in lockstep on every front, then yes, it's all over. In most of the western world, there appears to be a gap through which one could create some of these technological solutions, at least in terms of soc...
[20:15:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:The technology is only part of the problem - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:15:08] <exec> 08└─The solution is never technological because it can always be trumped by a large enough group of your neighbors. Understand that this is a social not a technological problem. Solve it using appropriate tools.
[20:15:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:First, retain a sense of scale - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:15:10] <exec> 08└─The government doesn't need any particular business
[20:15:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03fadrian [3194] (Score:2) 02It's the purpose of government to govern... - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:15:12] <exec> 08└─Why do you think that technology should be immune from its ministrations? Unless you don't like the idea of government at all. The FA's just whining about who makes the decisions. Call the wahmbulance.
[20:15:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Re:It's the purpose of government to govern... - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 657 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:15:13] <exec> 08└─The purpose of government may indeed be to govern. However, government always expands what it governs, and rarely reduces it. When the governed attempt to withdraw their consent (for example, in the form of secession), the government tends to exert force to retain its power. Government is people. Ma...
[20:15:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Here's the process you would need to follow - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:15:15] <exec> 08└─How do today's technologists win freedom from State control?
[20:15:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Urbit - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:15:17] <exec> 08└─Ah, this is from the Urbit project. Urbit is certainly one of the most interesting project I've seen to date -- but also one of the most puzzling. To illustrate my point, a few snippets from their git issues: No kids desk on planets pus.hid missing from bowl Port to newgall :twit kick: lost %hear o...
[20:15:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Re:Still a Seagate - 06 Seagate Unveils Enlarged Spy Drive With Support for 64 Spycams - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:15:27] <exec> 08└─Thank you for this link! I've wasted soooo much time on flaky drives, but every brand seems as awful as the next. Based on that article I just ordered 3 from HGST.
[20:15:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:Still a Seagate - 06 Seagate Unveils Enlarged Spy Drive With Support for 64 Spycams - 948 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:15:29] <exec> 08└─seagate used to be the goto brand. this was about 10 or more years ago. some barracuda series had problems but overall they used to be a great drive company. now, I would avoid them unless I buy enterprise drives and even then I'm not so sure. for a while I had great luck with samsung but they sold...
[20:15:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02With Support for 64 Spycams - 06 Seagate Unveils Enlarged Spy Drive With Support for 64 Spycams - 461 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:15:33] <exec> 08└─WTF does that even mean? How does a hard drive know what type of data you are writing, much less how many cams? And since one cam can easily produce 10x the data of another, "a spy cam" is hardly a meaningful unit of measure. So, must be more marketing B.S. from Seagate. Please, everyone in the "sal...
[20:15:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:Time lords? I can BAD WOLF see it now... - 06Time Lords Set for Three-Week Battle Over Leap Seconds - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:15:56] <exec> 08└─Yes, please. *noms* Meanwhile, Captain Jack Harkness has been getting to the BAD WOLF bottom of this nonsense (ok, he's probably a top). Anyway, I hear it's rather BAD WOLF complicated plot involving Blaidd Drwg, Inc out of Cardiff. Oh shi— the key of Rassilon! Trenzalore! Time paradox!
[20:15:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:Time lords? I can see it now... - 06Time Lords Set for Three-Week Battle Over Leap Seconds - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:15:57] <exec> 08└─Just give me a moment here… but whatever you do, DO NOT BLINK!
[20:16:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:not nearly enough - 06Sony BMG Rootkit Scandal: 10 Years Later - 1355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:16:24] <exec> 08└─That's a bit too harsh given the number of innocent people (ie: The lower level peeps) that get shafted. I'd rather see more risk to the shareholders themselves, since ultimately that is the only reason the corporations act the way they do - to maximize profits for those shareholders, since those sh...
[20:16:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Errm - 06Novena: A Laptop With No Secrets - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:16:59] <exec> 08└─It also has a closed source GPU with god knows what else going on inside of it. It's okay though cause they're not using closed source drivers, right? Honestly doesn't seem much more open than a RPi, but I might be talking out my ass.
[20:18:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Ummm - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 2433 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:18:05] <exec> 08└─Does Ted Cruz remind anyone of McCarthy? I even have accidentally called one the other in conversation. Cruz may have some merits related to business specific views (I'm otherwise not a fan), but... for some reason I see the Tea Party types that follow him as a partial extension of what McCarthy was...
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[21:14:49] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Nerdfest [80] 02Re:Streisand - 06USDA Scientist Punished for Pollinator Research - 481 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:49] <exec> 08└─We went through this in Canada as well with our current (very soon to be former) fascist/autocratic government. It was pro corporation, anti-environmentalism, and anti-science. I'm guessing the big factor is the corporate control of the government that seems to be so wide-spread in the US government...
[21:14:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Streisand - 06USDA Scientist Punished for Pollinator Research - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:50] <exec> 08└─Just like researchers have found that fracking is not the cause of earthquakes where there were none before it started.
[21:14:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03zugedneb [4556] (Score:2) 02monsanto - 06USDA Scientist Punished for Pollinator Research - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:52] <exec> 08└─Over the years I have come across articles, some linked from /. , saying that monsanto employees ended up in bureaucratic positions in the USDA... http://slashdot.org [slashdot.org] also, just google for "usda monsanto", and have a look at the hits...
[21:14:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03SpockLogic [2762] (Score:2) 02Re:monsanto - 06USDA Scientist Punished for Pollinator Research - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:54] <exec> 08└─In this case I suspect the dead hand of Bayer AG, one of the largest manufacturers.
[21:15:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ugmo [5721] (Score:1) 02Re:Here's the process you would need to follow - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 906 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:15:26] <exec> 08└─So a Technologist should move to a lawless area with roving bands of stateless armed aggressors. That last part is a little wordy. Let's call them barbarians. The technologist has to work alone to defend himself. You say that cannot be done because the barbarians outnumber him. But he has knowledge...
[21:15:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Still a Seagate - 06 Seagate Unveils Enlarged Spy Drive With Support for 64 Spycams - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:15:38] <exec> 08└─From the same source as above: "the failure rate of enterprise drives is actually higher than that of the consumer drives." [backblaze.com]
[21:15:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Keyword - 06Astronaut Scott Kelly Breaks US Spaceflight Record - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:15:59] <exec> 08└─"Time spent in space by a thrashing object... oh, shit. That wasn't very long at all. But he does look cool, his body spinning like that...."
[21:16:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Time lords? I can see it now... - 06Time Lords Set for Three-Week Battle Over Leap Seconds - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:16:13] <exec> 08└─...for if you do, "YOU WILL BE EXTERMINATED! EXXXXXTERMINATED!!!!!"
[21:17:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:Outrage? - 06CIA Chief 'Outraged' by Personal Email Hack - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:17:02] <exec> 08└─Random hackers? They might embarrass me, they might take my money, but random hackers can't incarcerate me, or send me to a reeducation camp. They can't destroy my professional reputation. They can't take all of my money away. But, better to have all this happen in private, than publicly, right?
[21:17:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Re:On first glance - 06European Parliament Urges Protection for Edward Snowden - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:17:44] <exec> 08└─Hmmm, Really? The EU seems to be genuinely pissed, at several different levels, at the US spying, and the data mining by NSA/CIA of European Citizens.
[21:17:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Too bad reality doesn't match lawyers - 06VMware vs German Kernel Developer: Filings Flung in Linux-Lifting Lawsuit - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:17:54] <exec> 08└─It's well known fact that public syscalls are for interoperability, and all of them are listed as such. The rest is not. Anyway, I hope VMware digs itself a deep hole that it will not be able to crawl out of. Happy digging!
[21:18:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Modern art is the communist plot - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:18:47] <exec> 08└─The modern art in question did have its roots in russia. It took several decades to escape from tsarist russia, and reach western europe, and then a few more to reach the US. If the CIA thought it could make the US appear to be cutting edge by being 50 years behind the curve, then that shows how stu...
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[22:14:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02You Could Be Meyeyine - 06Yamaha Unleashes Motorcycling Robot - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:35] <exec> 08└─But you're way out of leyeyine.
[22:14:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Streisand - 06USDA Scientist Punished for Pollinator Research - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:47] <exec> 08└─Yes, but who enforces punishment? I guess that is what the separation of powers was supposed to solve, but it seems that political clout still gains exceptions.
[22:14:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02If being scrutinized, go by the book! - 06USDA Scientist Punished for Pollinator Research - 605 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:50] <exec> 08└─Ignoring any possible merits of Dr. Lundgren's research, if he knows he is being watched for any excuse to punish him, why does he still forget to fill out his travel paperwork, do government business on private email, connect his personal computer to the network, make questionable jokes, etc.? As t...
[22:15:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No Exit - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:15:04] <exec> 08└─That's why Sweden is identical in its oppressiveness to North Korea?
[22:15:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No Exit - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:15:05] <exec> 08└─You're right, but they have their own gulag's in NK. Equating Sweden with NK because of what they will allegedly do to a guy that is a bit of an itch in their back side, is showing gross incompetence in your ability to judge the world.
[22:15:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The open-net - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:28] <exec> 08└─Is a bad place and everyone should work to avoid it. Once you drop into something like freenet or I2P, 'the man' has little power to control your speech.
[22:15:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02Re:Still a Seagate - 06 Seagate Unveils Enlarged Spy Drive With Support for 64 Spycams - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:15:42] <exec> 08└─Based on that article I just ordered 3 from HGST.
[22:16:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Things in the sky - 06Time Lords Set for Three-Week Battle Over Leap Seconds - 607 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:16:24] <exec> 08└─Sorry. But we are always going to have days and years in their current form as they are based on sensible constants like planetary rotation and orbit, UNIX epoc is not scientifically useful. Anybody can tell you how many hours has passed since midday. Nobody can tell you how many seconds have passed...
[22:16:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:10 years of my Boycott and still going strong.. - 06Sony BMG Rootkit Scandal: 10 Years Later - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:16:48] <exec> 08└─I have not spent money on Sony products in 10 years. Thanks for the reminder SN!
[22:16:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02And most consumers.. - 06Sony BMG Rootkit Scandal: 10 Years Later - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:16:50] <exec> 08└─Never even knew it happened. Few would understand if you explained it to them. Like most of these 'scandals', life moves on and no one cares as soon as the next shiny object appears.
[22:17:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:On first glance - 06European Parliament Urges Protection for Edward Snowden - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:17:47] <exec> 08└─"government of the people, by the people, for the people" yeah right
[22:17:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03deimtee [3272] 02Re:On first glance - 06European Parliament Urges Protection for Edward Snowden - 279 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:17:48] <exec> 08└─Declaring the US safe-harbor agreement no longer legal not only slaps the US government in the face, but simultaneously threatens big business in the US (who are somewhat the innocent bystanders left holding the bag). Those companies are pounding on Government desks as we speak.
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[23:14:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Prone to addiction? - 06Why Smoking and Drinking Often Go Together - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:14:35] <exec> 08└─Or people who are addicted to stuff are more likely to be the type of people who get addicted to stuff? ;)
[23:14:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02end the war against effective drugs - 06Why Smoking and Drinking Often Go Together - 659 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:14:37] <exec> 08└─You can do better than that. End the drug war, and let us have substances that have known medicinal properties. Studies are beginning to confirm what we all knew about cannabis flower and then some. LSD-25 and iboga root are effective drugs when used in a clinical setting (currently only available i...
[23:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:end the war against effective drugs - 06Why Smoking and Drinking Often Go Together - 704 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:38] <exec> 08└─Here's what I don't get about the cannabis crowd: how in the world is the use of drugs in any way natural? Where in nature do you see any creature besides man dumb enough to stick burning shit in its mouth in order to suck off the fumes? Lungs aren't designed for excessive particulate pollution, no...
[23:14:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:end the war against effective drugs - 06Why Smoking and Drinking Often Go Together - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:40] <exec> 08└─Where in nature do you see any creature besides man dumb enough to
[23:14:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:end the war against effective drugs - 06Why Smoking and Drinking Often Go Together - 592 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:42] <exec> 08└─a simple google search is enough to address your bullshit http://scribol.com [scribol.com] http://www.gizmag.com [gizmag.com] http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au
[23:14:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:end the war against effective drugs - 06Why Smoking and Drinking Often Go Together - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:44] <exec> 08└─Maybe the answer to many of society's problems is to reintroduce predators into urban settings to weed out the unfit.
[23:14:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02that didn't take much effort - 06Why Smoking and Drinking Often Go Together - 849 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:46] <exec> 08└─(Circle of protection: karma to burn.) Bernie Sanders [norml.org] (I-VT) wants to end the drug war. It's clearly failed policy. Let's not stop there, internet, show me your secrets! No idea about the credibility of this link: Drugs: 2016 contenders' views [ontheissues.org]. Roseanne Barr? wtf but ++...
[23:15:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Re:No Exit - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:15:21] <exec> 08└─I didn't say that things were equal everywhere. Oppression comes in all shapes and sizes.
[23:15:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:First, retain a sense of scale - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 393 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:15:37] <exec> 08└─My point behind this is that we're facing one of the key dilemmas of what to do about the government-industrial complex. If the power lies in the hands of businesses, then increasing the power of government to enforce the law works to some degree. But if the power is in the hands of government, then...
[23:15:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:First, retain a sense of scale - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:15:38] <exec> 08└─Cool quote, bro, but what does that have to do with this thread?
[23:15:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:First, retain a sense of scale - 06Design of a Digital Republic: Part 1, Goals - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:15:40] <exec> 08└─Cool quote, bro, but what does that have to do with this thread?
[23:16:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Still a Seagate - 06 Seagate Unveils Enlarged Spy Drive With Support for 64 Spycams - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:16:02] <exec> 08└─HGST is the new name for Hitachi Global Storage Technologies, which was sold by Hitachi to Western Digital. They agreed to have separate lines in that agreement. The reason was because HGST got a reputation in the enterprise for reliability because of its use by IBM; and that means that keeping them...
[23:16:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:2) 02Re:With Support for 64 Spycams - 06 Seagate Unveils Enlarged Spy Drive With Support for 64 Spycams - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:16:09] <exec> 08└─WTF does that even mean? How does a hard drive know what type of data you are writing, much less how many cams? And since one cam can easily produce 10x the data of another, "a spy cam" is hardly a meaningful unit of measure.
[23:16:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrNemesis [1582] (Score:2) 02Re:Things in the sky - 06Time Lords Set for Three-Week Battle Over Leap Seconds - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:16:46] <exec> 08└─Required reading for anyone who wants to abolish time zones [qntm.org].
[23:17:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:not nearly enough - 06Sony BMG Rootkit Scandal: 10 Years Later - 790 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:17:07] <exec> 08└─Blame the people buying Sony insurance? ;) http://www.nytimes.com [nytimes.com] Sony is best known as a consumer electronics company, making PlayStation game consoles and televisions. And it loses money on almost every...
[23:17:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:2) 02Re:Errm - 06Novena: A Laptop With No Secrets - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:17:45] <exec> 08└─but I might be talking out my ass
[23:18:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:On first glance - 06European Parliament Urges Protection for Edward Snowden - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:18:16] <exec> 08└─Welcome to the world of not legally binding. The Gettysburg Address is just as legally binding as my opinions on sunspots.
[23:18:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:On first glance - 06European Parliament Urges Protection for Edward Snowden - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:18:19] <exec> 08└─the constitution is supposed to be legally binding apparently 'legally binding' doesn't mean what it used to
[23:18:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:On first glance - 06European Parliament Urges Protection for Edward Snowden - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:18:21] <exec> 08└─Snitching on government is not only NOT a betrayal, but an obligation. NOT Snitching on Government is a betrayal.
[23:18:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:On first glance - 06European Parliament Urges Protection for Edward Snowden - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:18:23] <exec> 08└─Look, how can you blame Google when Armed US Marshals show up with a warrant and demand data? How many Google employees to you expect to spend 10 years in jail to protect your email?
[23:18:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:On first glance - 06European Parliament Urges Protection for Edward Snowden - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:18:24] <exec> 08└─Would that happen again today? Its anybody's guess.
[23:19:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Modern art is the communist plot - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:19:21] <exec> 08└─Katy Perry is extremely popular in large part because most people get Max Martin's [wikipedia.org] songs.
[23:19:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rich [945] (Score:2) 02Re:Chthonic vs. Tengger Cavalry - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 493 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:19:29] <exec> 08└─The Wiki also says the reporting was done on some protest for the UN recognition of China. It certainly helps that Yeh makes such a nice impression in the picture that has to go with these articles. Which - if the reporting was supposed to be music-focused - doesn't do her much justice, because she...
[23:19:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Shut up - 06New Twitter Features Re-ignite Censorship Concerns - 8 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:19:58] <exec> 08└─Niuh-uh.
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