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[07:41:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02NGRAM can't identify hipsters - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:41:25] <exec> 08└─If you used old-timey terminology jokingly or seriously a few times, are you a hipster? The resurgence of the word "smitten" does not prove the headline.
[07:41:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Label - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:41:26] <exec> 08└─Does the word "hipster" mean anything other than "we hate those people today"? You hipsters invent new labels way too fast.
[07:41:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:3, Funny) 02Why just vintage, why not really old? - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:41:27] <exec> 08└─Many's the time I oft would say: HWÆT, WE GAR-DEna in geardagum, þeodcyninga þrym gefrunon, hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon! oft Scyld Scefing sceaþena þreatum, monegum mægþum meodosetla ofteah, egsode eorlas, syððanærest wearð feasceaft funden; he þæs frofre gebad, weox under wolcnu...
[07:41:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02This may be a passing fad... - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 518 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:41:29] <exec> 08└─Ya Think? Fad language seldom sticks around, but using it dates you as either a douchey hipster, or a late-to-the-party poser. Bespoke, peruse, smitten and dapper are hardly "vintage" words any more than the word "word" is vintage. They aren't common, buy yet never fell out of usage. Any half way we...
[07:41:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Corelli's A [1772] (Score:1) 02Steamer trunks? - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:41:31] <exec> 08└─First parsed as "How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Luggage," and I thought, "portmanteau?" is that "vintage" now?
[07:41:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03VanderDecken [5216] (Score:3, Informative) 02Magnetic quadrupoles - 06Physicists Uncover Novel Phase of Matter - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:41:38] <exec> 08└─TL;DR: This form of matter as seen in the experiment is a magnetic quadrupole, and difficult to detect. They were able to do so by examining shifts in harmonic frequencies of reflected light.
[07:41:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02That's logical - 06Rewilding the Future - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:41:46] <exec> 08└─It is increasingly clear that Earth harbored rich faunas of large animals -- such as elephants, wild horses and big cats -- pretty much everywhere, but that these have starkly declined with the spread of humans across the world -- a decline that continues in many areas.
[07:41:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:That's logical - 06Rewilding the Future - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:48] <exec> 08└─All the land that is usable for production is used for production.
[07:41:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score:2) 02Re:That's logical - 06Rewilding the Future - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:50] <exec> 08└─Uh huh. And since we haven't run out of oil yet, I guess it's safe to assume we will never run out of oil?
[07:41:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:That's logical - 06Rewilding the Future - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:51] <exec> 08└─You might be right, and for exactly the same reason. As we move to Electric and renewables, the demand for oil will drop. Same with farm land. Modern crops and farming methods are so efficient we don't have to use marginal lands.
[07:41:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:That's logical - 06Rewilding the Future - 474 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:53] <exec> 08└─Note that intensive use of smaller area of land to produce more food requires... more fertilizer, and more pesticides, and more GMO plants. If you want to go back to organic farming you will need far more land because it is not as efficient. Note also that plenty of land is described as agricultura...
[07:41:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:That's logical - 06Rewilding the Future - 873 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:55] <exec> 08└─Or letting the regeneration of many near extinct wild animals such as wolves, cougars and coyotes we provide a means of thinning the overpopulation of humans. Already here in Central California we have cougars and coyotes moving into populated areas. Many smaller pets (dogs and cats) disappear regul...
[07:41:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02[OT] Google search - 06Rewilding the Future - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:41:57] <exec> 08└─Anyone have service problems with Google search? For the past 2-3 days, half of my searches haven't come back even after about 10 seconds. I've actually had to switch to Yahoo search.
[07:41:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:[OT] Google search - 06Rewilding the Future - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:58] <exec> 08└─I suggest using duckduckgo. Or maybe your browser has been hijacked. https://productforums.google.com!topic/chrome/UPBNlMC3HL4 [google.com]
[07:41:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Whale poop - 06Rewilding the Future - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:42:00] <exec> 08└─Scientific American had an article on the value of Whale Poop [scientificamerican.com] important because it transports nutrients from the deep ocean, up to the surface. "Sperm whales feed on giant squid and other deep sea creatures. So they'll dive more than a kilometer down." Then they come to the...
[07:42:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrchew1982 [3565] (Score:3, Funny) 02Nena - 06Loose JLENS Balloon Causes Blackout - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:42:03] <exec> 08└─I'm glad that it wasn't red... Or accompanied by 98 more...
[07:42:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Nena - 06Loose JLENS Balloon Causes Blackout - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:05] <exec> 08└─I'm impressed with how far it got. It flew so far away!
[07:42:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Funny) 02Deflated - 06Loose JLENS Balloon Causes Blackout - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:42:06] <exec> 08└─According to later reports the balloon mysteriously deflated slowly and landed in the trees [wgal.com] (pictures), and will be recovered. It has radio controlled deflates but the military insists these were not triggered. I'm betting a few citizens assisted the military in this "slow deflation".
[07:42:07] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03nyder [4525] 02Re:Deflated - 06Loose JLENS Balloon Causes Blackout - 54 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:08] <exec> 08└─I heard Tom Brady was reported to be seen in the area.
[07:42:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Deflated - 06Loose JLENS Balloon Causes Blackout - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:10] <exec> 08└─It landed in Muncy, PA. There are a lot of pickup trucks and shotguns there.
[07:42:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Deflated - 06Loose JLENS Balloon Causes Blackout - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:12] <exec> 08└─'We have seen the enemy, and it is us", Pogo Possum.
[07:42:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Being Repurposed for Surveillance - 06Loose JLENS Balloon Causes Blackout - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:42:14] <exec> 08└─JLENS is an ideal platform for surveillance. I hope this fiasco spells the end for domestic deployments.
[07:42:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Channeling Pink Floyd - 06Loose JLENS Balloon Causes Blackout - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:42:15] <exec> 08└─This was little different from the iconic Pink Floyd cover featuring a flying pig. The whole JLENS program is a gigantic waste of money.
[07:42:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fnord666 [652] (Score:2) 02Reminds me of Aeon Flux - 06Loose JLENS Balloon Causes Blackout - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:42:17] <exec> 08└─Reminds me of the blimp in Aeon Flux.
[07:42:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Didn't MIPS do this? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:42:20] <exec> 08└─I seem to remember MIPS page tables for virtual memory having some bits to "colour" the entry with. This sounds similar.
[07:42:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Adamsjas [4507] (Score:2) 02Re:Didn't MIPS do this? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:22] <exec> 08└─I don't see how this helps if you are able to induce the program you have compromised to malloc some memory and hand you the pointer. If the pointer has the tag, you're golden, right?
[07:42:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2, Funny) 02Larry...? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:42:24] <exec> 08└─Larry thinks...
[07:42:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kilo110 [2853] (Score:2) 02Re:Larry...? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:26] <exec> 08└─https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Ellison [wikipedia.org]
[07:42:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03subs [4485] (Score:2) 02Re:Larry...? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:27] <exec> 08└─You win the clueless commenter award of the hour for commenting without even having RTFS.
[07:42:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Larry...? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:29] <exec> 08└─The second sentence in TFS gives his surname.
[07:42:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Larry...? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:31] <exec> 08└─the fact his sig has systemd commentary in it leadsme to believe that wonky monkey is truly wonky or a poseur. I cannot fathom how one in IT today can not know who leads Oracle -- it's like not knowing who was in charge of Microsoft ever in the past decade or two.
[07:42:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Larry...? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:33] <exec> 08└─Mo and Curly's odds of cracking the encryption are less than 1-in-16.
[07:42:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Larry...? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:34] <exec> 08└─I would moderate your flamebait away... but for some reason moderation no longer works for me. It just hangs at the top telling it me it's moderating, but never does it. My kingdom for *working* mod points ;) (Although you need a +5 Woosh on this one)
[07:42:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Larry...? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:36] <exec> 08└─How come we don't have a "Woosh" mod?
[07:42:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02I don't think it's 1 in 16 - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 547 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:42:38] <exec> 08└─That's like saying that adding an additional digit to a pin gives folks a 1 in 10 chance of cracking it. It adds another factor of difficulty to the brute force attack. In this case, they would need to also know the color of the memory they want to address, not just the location. I'm sure it's not g...
[07:42:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I don't think it's 1 in 16 - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 527 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:40] <exec> 08└─>"That's like saying that adding an additional digit to a pin gives folks a 1 in 10 chance of cracking it." Not really - in this case, there are only 16 tags, while a 4-digit PIN has ten thousand possible values. So it is like saying that using a PIN leaves you with a 1 in 10000 chance of cracking i...
[07:42:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:I don't think it's 1 in 16 - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 526 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:42] <exec> 08└─Yes, but this is in addition to the other stuff. The attacker would have to know where the memory they want to overwrite ore access is and then they'd have to worry about predicting what the color of the region is and whether or not they can access it. It is an additional 1/16 reduction of chance of...
[07:42:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02everything that is old is new again. - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 537 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:42:43] <exec> 08└─I guess we really do repeat history. I had an 8-bit mahine by IBM, it could house 7MB of memory, but a program would only use 64KB. It used the same trick (mostly). It had 24 bit address registers, but you only colud use 16 bits and the top 8 would be x80. Buy having a priveledge program, (object ha...
[07:42:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:everything that is old is new again. - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:45] <exec> 08└─Oh yeah, I remember those. The program was on a 5.25 inch floppy that was read only. And you had to stop every so often to save to another floppy.
[07:42:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03VanderDecken [5216] (Score:2) 02Re:everything that is old is new again. - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 2054 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:47] <exec> 08└─As described on the cryptography [metzdowd.com] mailing list: What Oracle (Sun) has done here is quite a bit different from the Burroughs tagged memory. [...] The hardware is storing an extra software-controlled 4-bit value along with each 64-byte cache line in main memory. When enabled, hardware...
[07:42:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Big Red? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:42:48] <exec> 08└─On Monday, Big Red breathlessly unveiled hardware powered by the beefy microprocessor, and on Tuesday, its supremo Larry Ellison lauded the 64-bit CPU's security defenses.
[07:42:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Big Red? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:50] <exec> 08└─Is "Big Red" a nickname for Oracle I haven't heard?
[07:42:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Big Red? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:52] <exec> 08└─Well, Oracle has a red logo, though I must admit I haven't heard it used as much as Big Blue for IBM (which has a blue logo).
[07:42:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Big Red? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:54] <exec> 08└─I thought Big Red wad cinnamon chewing gum.
[07:42:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03el_oscuro [1711] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Big Red? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:55] <exec> 08└─You do know that Oracle ripped off Red Hat, right? They just copied RHEL, and called it OEL. With the exception of a few modifications to the kernel, and a few extra packages, it is just RHEL rebranded: From Oracle Linux 6.6: [oracle@oracle-linux client]$ cat /etc/redhat-release Red Hat Enterprise...
[07:42:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Big Red? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:57] <exec> 08└─I thought you couldn't "rip off" software that was GPL since its got the four freedoms, so as long as they share the source it cannot be a rip off. You can't have your cake and eat it too friend, if its GPL that means as long as they share or provide access to the source anybody can rebrand all day...
[07:42:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02The overhead - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:42:59] <exec> 08└─The version numbers are checked in real-time by the processor with a tiny overhead – an extra one percent of execution time, according to Oracle's benchmarks.
[07:43:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02SPARC chip? Who cares? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:43:00] <exec> 08└─I did not realize that there were new SPARC chips being designed. There are probably some niche applications for which SPARC is effective, but the real question is how many datacenters are being built with SPARC-based systems?
[07:43:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03schad [2398] (Score:2) 02Re:SPARC chip? Who cares? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 519 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:02] <exec> 08└─Historically, SPARC has been the best platform for Oracle databases. Diversity in CPU architectures is a good thing anyway. I don't want to see POWER or SPARC die. AMD is all well and good, but they're not really doing anything that Intel isn't. They'll pressure Intel at the low end, but they've rea...
[07:43:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Orion Blastar [5270] (Score:1) 02Re:SPARC chip? Who cares? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 869 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:04] <exec> 08└─Most stuff is Intel or AMD based these days because of X86 backward compatibility. MIPS once was big but failed, ARM only succeeds because they license out the chip design for people to make their own chips. PowerPC lost marketshare once Apple switched to Intel chips. SPARC is sort of a white elepha...
[07:43:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grekkan [1783] (Score:1) 02All 1s or 0s - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:43:06] <exec> 08└─But when it comes down to it, isn't all computer memory all 1s or 0s? :) (Yes, I know what the submitter meant. Just struck me as a funny way to say it.)
[07:43:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Funny) 02Health Fads - 06 The Gruesome History of Eating Corpses as Medicine - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:43:08] <exec> 08└─Yep, when someone asks you "If the Egyptians mummified everyone who could afford it, why are there so few mummies around today?". "Because health fad swept Europe that lasted hundreds of years and they ate all the mummies."
[07:43:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:4, Funny) 02Re:Health Fads - 06 The Gruesome History of Eating Corpses as Medicine - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:09] <exec> 08└─Obligatory Futurama: "My God, this is an outrage. I was going to eat that mummy!" (and my longtime sig just happens to fit the topic - funny that)
[07:43:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02I see red - 06 The Gruesome History of Eating Corpses as Medicine - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:43:11] <exec> 08└─Soylentils Soylenting?
[07:43:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03nyder [4525] (Score:2) 02Eating Humans does cure - 06 The Gruesome History of Eating Corpses as Medicine - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:43:13] <exec> 08└─Eating humans cure hunger.
[07:43:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02REI is closed for Black Friday - 06 The Gruesome History of Eating Corpses as Medicine - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:43:14] <exec> 08└─Vampires in NOLA? Body-eaters in Europe? Could it be, not to speculate wildly, that the news has to be selected to match the season? Next we need a fine article on the re-animation of dead tissue. I'll go check the submission queue.
[07:43:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02This goddamn marketplace... - 06Samsung Announces 18.4" Galaxy View Tablet - 585 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:43:16] <exec> 08└─Tech news circa 2020: "Motorola has announced a new tablet, bigger and more usable than all competitors, with a nice 25 inch screen, it is larger than all competing tablets on the market, once again making new strides in mobile computing" Circa 2030: "... 800 inches, from Apple, and, in an industry...
[07:43:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This goddamn marketplace... - 06Samsung Announces 18.4" Galaxy View Tablet - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:18] <exec> 08└─At some point, your computer is considered luggable, rather than portable [wikipedia.org].
[07:43:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:This goddamn marketplace... - 06Samsung Announces 18.4" Galaxy View Tablet - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:20] <exec> 08└─Let me rework this: 2020, Samsung announces a new tablet with a 15" screen, built-in physical keyboard with touchpad, external monitor port for dual monitors, 4 USB ports, audio in/out ports -- best of all, it is enclosed in a revolutionary new clamshell design that protects the screen while not in...
[07:43:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:This goddamn marketplace... - 06Samsung Announces 18.4" Galaxy View Tablet - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:21] <exec> 08└─2020, Samsung announces a new tablet with a 15" screen, built-in physical keyboard with touchpad, external monitor port for dual monitors, 4 USB ports, audio in/out ports -- best of all, it is enclosed in a revolutionary new clamshell design that protects the screen while not in use.
[07:43:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02HP Slate - 06Samsung Announces 18.4" Galaxy View Tablet - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:43:23] <exec> 08└─HP has had a couple of ~20 inch tablets. I've considered picking a couple of them up to use as home automation and music consoles to mount on the wall or maybe a coffee table. Here is one example: http://www.amazon.com [amazon.com]
[07:43:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03middlemen [504] (Score:2) 02Re:HP Slate - 06Samsung Announces 18.4" Galaxy View Tablet - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:25] <exec> 08└─Can this run a real GNU/Linux OS which the user has control over ? And no, Android is not counted as one...
[07:43:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:HP Slate - 06Samsung Announces 18.4" Galaxy View Tablet - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:26] <exec> 08└─What would you run on it that would benefit from the hardware?
[07:43:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:HP Slate - 06Samsung Announces 18.4" Galaxy View Tablet - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:28] <exec> 08└─heard it runs cyanogen
[07:43:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Seems misspecced - 06Samsung Announces 18.4" Galaxy View Tablet - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:43:30] <exec> 08└─iPad Pro is under two pounds where this thing is a similar weight to a heavy duty laptop. The resolution is lower than what's common for smaller tablets. This kind of sounds like they just built a tablet around the largest touch screen they could get.
[07:43:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Seems misspecced - 06Samsung Announces 18.4" Galaxy View Tablet - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:31] <exec> 08└─[...] they just built a tablet around the largest touch screen they could get.
[07:43:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Seems misspecced - 06Samsung Announces 18.4" Galaxy View Tablet - 609 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:33] <exec> 08└─Are you really comparing the weight of a 12.9 inch tablet and a 18.4 inch tablet? Lets look at 2D the ipad pro has a surface area of 674 mm^2 the galaxy has 1246 mm^2 so roughly twice the usable area. The ipad weights 800 grams and the galaxy weighs 2600 grams, so roughly three times the ipad. Then...
[07:43:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Re:Seems misspecced - 06Samsung Announces 18.4" Galaxy View Tablet - 1250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:35] <exec> 08└─All I meant was that my gut says that a tablet that's as heavy as my laptop would feel cumbersome. If I hold my 5.5lb laptop one handed by one edge, that's a bit of a strain. For the iPad Pro, they seem to be steering clear of that threshold. On the other hand, if this is some kind of presentation d...
[07:43:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Seems misspecced - 06Samsung Announces 18.4" Galaxy View Tablet - 505 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:36] <exec> 08└─Iterate this odd monster by another year and it may be worth something. It will probably get a RAM boost (Samsung makes the highest density RAM!) [soylentnews.org], and an increase in resolution, while cutting the weight. As it is now, it is an odd duck, unless the price turns out to be a lot lower...
[07:43:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Re:Seems misspecced - 06Samsung Announces 18.4" Galaxy View Tablet - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:38] <exec> 08└─Well, actually I think I've got something for it. I have a touchscreen mounted to a swivel arm hooked to a Mac Mini in my kitchen and while overall it's been great, the touch screen is craptastic enough that I mostly end up using the mouse. This would be a great drop in replacement if it had mountin...
[07:43:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Seems misspecced - 06Samsung Announces 18.4" Galaxy View Tablet - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:40] <exec> 08└─http://www.amazon.com/FLEXIMOUNTS-11-15-6-Notebook-computer-monitor/dp/B00W58D4KI/ [amazon.com] I think something like this would work for you without too much difficulty. If you look at the photos it actually shows it holding a mac just like you would want it hold a tablet.
[07:43:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02"biggest touch screen - go on touch it" - 06Samsung Announces 18.4" Galaxy View Tablet - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:43:42] <exec> 08└─So they get bragging rights: "biggest touch screen on a tablet" aka: "most customers forced to chiropractor using product" Http://www.apple.com $1999 Only 15 inches. Complete laptop. 2kgs (4.4lb) Silly? Yes, customers are...
[07:43:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:"biggest touch screen - go on touch it" - 06Samsung Announces 18.4" Galaxy View Tablet - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:43] <exec> 08└─But they get to party like it's $1999.
[07:43:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02It's heavier than my laptop! - 06Samsung Announces 18.4" Galaxy View Tablet - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:43:45] <exec> 08└─Mine weighs in at only 1.8 kg... I wonder if it's possible to run a standard GNU/Linux (as opposed to Android/Linux) distro on such a beast. Might actually make a decent portable machine that way with a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse.
[07:43:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:It's heavier than my laptop! - 06Samsung Announces 18.4" Galaxy View Tablet - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:47] <exec> 08└─If it can do that then this might be the machine for you and Gravis. But I'd suggest waiting a year for the Galaxy View 2.
[07:43:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:It's heavier than my laptop! - 06Samsung Announces 18.4" Galaxy View Tablet - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:49] <exec> 08└─if the Galaxy View 2 attaches to a nice adjustable keyboard base like the surface 4 deally, then yeah! without a nice keyboard, it's just a digital picture frame you can poke. :(
[07:43:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:2) 02Sure - 06Samsung Announces 18.4" Galaxy View Tablet - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:43:51] <exec> 08└─Sure, but how many cupholders does it have?
[07:43:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02needs a wristband - 06Samsung Announces 18.4" Galaxy View Tablet - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:43:52] <exec> 08└─Once the wristbands come out for this baby, Apple will have two choices: kill the Apple Watch, or play catch-up and make the Apple Watch Plus (the way it imitated the Samsung Galaxy Note by making the iPhone 6 Plus). We have phablets, now the time has come for the watchlet.
[07:43:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03EventH0rizon [936] (Score:1) 02Re: limited human applications - 06Researchers Create a Sonic Tractor Beam - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:54] <exec> 08└─Rail travel at high speed is not possible because passengers, unable to breathe, would die of asphyxia. - Dr. Dionysus Lardner (1793-1859), Professor of Natural Philosophy and Astronomy at University College, London.
[07:43:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re: - 06Researchers Create a Sonic Tractor Beam - 1408 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:56] <exec> 08└─Uhhhh, more likely it will just squash human beings.... fruit.... delicate things.... It seems to work by applying the right kinds of pressure to all sides of the object in real time, and by modifying that pressure... it rotates and moves. I imagine this feeling like very large and *powerful* finger...
[07:43:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02it aint a tracvtor beam.. - 06Researchers Create a Sonic Tractor Beam - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:43:57] <exec> 08└─It is a repulser beam. It moves the object above it... Up, down and around and around. Gravity drops it back to surface when it is powered of. Now if they placed the array above the obejct and pulled into the air vs. pushing then that is different story. PS: another bad title.
[07:43:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] 02Please if I can have a $1 - 06Researchers Create Technology to Produce Lighter, Long-lasting Batteries from Silicon - 150 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:43:59] <exec> 08└─Please if I can have a $1 for every time a major breakthrough in batteries is touted in the media, I think I could live comfortably while not working.
[07:44:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Re:Please if I can have a $1 - 06Researchers Create Technology to Produce Lighter, Long-lasting Batteries from Silicon - 943 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:01] <exec> 08└─The city I live in is grappling with the problem of sprawl among other things. Auckland is about the size of London, but with 1.4 million people v about 9 million. We tend to live in single family dwellings, with our own land, whereas London has semi-detached houses and apartments. This tends to mak...
[07:44:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Please if I can have a $1 - 06Researchers Create Technology to Produce Lighter, Long-lasting Batteries from Silicon - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:03] <exec> 08└─But there's still a long way down the road to the chemist's.
[07:44:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03WalksOnDirt [5854] (Score:1) 02Re:Yet Another Breakthrough - 06Researchers Create Technology to Produce Lighter, Long-lasting Batteries from Silicon - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:09] <exec> 08└─[Also Covered By]: Phys.org [Abstract]: Cycling Li-O2 batteries via LiOH formation and decomposition
[07:44:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:2) 02Re:"Covalent Synergy" - 06Researchers Create Technology to Produce Lighter, Long-lasting Batteries from Silicon - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:12] <exec> 08└─I take issue with your sarcasm! Synergy is my middle name!
[07:44:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The summary left out the most important part - 06The Doxing Trend - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:26] <exec> 08└─Perfect is the enemy of good. How about punishing companies that have shown to be absolutely incompetent when it comes to security, like Sony? Don't demand that people have perfect security; demand that they're not totally incompetent.
[07:44:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tramii [920] (Score:2) 02Re:The summary left out the most important part - 06The Doxing Trend - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:28] <exec> 08└─How about punishing companies that have shown to be absolutely incompetent when it comes to security, like Sony?
[07:44:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:The summary left out the most important part - 06The Doxing Trend - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:29] <exec> 08└─Not cool dude, not cool at all. I was all YAY!!! Sue the lazy bastids!!! Now you go give a cogent reason why that won't work. Not cool dude.
[07:44:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tramii [920] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:The summary left out the most important part - 06The Doxing Trend - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:31] <exec> 08└─You can't just create blanket penalties like that or everyone will leave the market screaming and your packets will need to go to another country for service.
[07:44:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:The summary left out the most important part - 06The Doxing Trend - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:32] <exec> 08└─Yes, I am utterly devastated by the lack of E Coli innovation in my spinach caused by compliance to government regulations. Think of all the cool stuff I could be cultivating in my body! Viva innovation!
[07:44:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03iamjacksusername [1479] (Score:2) 02Re:The summary left out the most important part - 06The Doxing Trend - 1708 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:34] <exec> 08└─I personally have been in favor of per-person statutory damages awarded on a strict liability basis. That is, the basis of the award is that a breach occurred, not whether the company is at fault. On a practical basis, it would be a death knell for company. Going forward, companies would stop storin...
[07:44:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Idealistic - 06The Doxing Trend - 1202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:51] <exec> 08└─This is what I came here to post. Set minimum standards? Gub'mint regulation? Bruce Schneier is obviously a Marxist. He's a stooge for Obammy yo mammy and the rest of those tax and steal big gub'mint scum. Let the market decide. If you don't have any money, you don't need to worry. But that's okay,...
[07:44:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:More Regulation? That always helps... - 06The Doxing Trend - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:57] <exec> 08└─frojack has an MO? I learn so much here on SoylentNews!
[07:44:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03meisterister [949] (Score:2) 02Offtopic - 06The Doxing Trend - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:45:00] <exec> 08└─Sorry, but I still can't wrap my head around the fact that in 2015, people are still using AOL.
[07:45:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:2) 02Re:Offtopic - 06The Doxing Trend - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:04] <exec> 08└─Old people tend to be set in their ways. You might experience this yourself at some point. I am involved in a startup (side project) where the person in charge uses their AOL account. They are fairly lucid and competent, and somewhat tech savvy, but they are just used to using it.
[07:45:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Re:Congress? - 06Monkeys are Heading to Mars - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:12] <exec> 08└─we like to think that politicians are some strange creatures that are in no way representative of the population as a whole,
[07:45:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Congress? - 06Monkeys are Heading to Mars - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:14] <exec> 08└─"Well, the problem with social science is that it's unethical to experiment on humans in such a way as to achieve reproducibility"
[07:45:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Congress? - 06Monkeys are Heading to Mars - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:16] <exec> 08└─Look, I have no problem with sacrificing monkey, or even people, on the altair of progress. However comparing poor innocent marsupials to those creatures that infest the capitol is beyond the pale.
[07:45:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Nuke [3162] 02Re:That's fucked. - 06Monkeys are Heading to Mars - 637 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:27] <exec> 08└─I think you seriously underate the intelligence and emotions of higher animals. I don't believe that monkeys and apes are all that far behind humans, in fact there is probably some overlap between the great apes and humans in these respects. Humans don't like to hear or believe this, as they did (or...
[07:45:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:That's fucked. - 06Monkeys are Heading to Mars - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:34] <exec> 08└─"That's racist. You should have said Mexicans." - D Trump.
[07:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:That's fucked. - 06Monkeys are Heading to Mars - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:37] <exec> 08└─to LEO, and even to the first successful space flight The first successful manned space flight was LEO. I'm not sure anyone died in the process to launch Sputnik, but obviously plenty died during the V2 and V1 stages.
[07:45:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:That's fucked. - 06Monkeys are Heading to Mars - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:40] <exec> 08└─How's that cube, mr code monkey?
[07:45:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Other efforts have stalled - 06Monkeys are Heading to Mars - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:43] <exec> 08└─Reality always follows satire, sometimes 5 years, sometimes 15, but it's inevitable.
[07:45:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Earth's First Ambassadors - 06Monkeys are Heading to Mars - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:45] <exec> 08└─I doubt any monkey has done something as stupid as this purported space flight.
[07:46:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:RAID is not backup - 06FBI: "Just pay the ransom." - 700 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:19] <exec> 08└─>If it is important enough to go out of your way to have it on a RAID then it is important enough to plan for the failure that will occur. Actually no; this is one thing that most people get wrong. RAID is not for data protection, although it provides a tiny amount of protection as a side effect: us...
[07:46:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:RAID is not backup - 06FBI: "Just pay the ransom." - 915 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:22] <exec> 08└─>And, no, I don't have a full backup of my RAID. I would have to purchase a few hard drives to do that, along with an NAS of some type. Or, purchase space on some server in the cloud. I'm not a fan of the cloud though. >The good news is - only one user has r/w access to the RAID. All other users hav...
[07:46:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:RAID is not backup - 06FBI: "Just pay the ransom." - 1559 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:23] <exec> 08└─LOL - I've learned the lesson, really. Another poster mentioned cost. Not everyone can afford a home server. I can't, really, but I have one anyway. In fact, my workstation is on the server, because my most recently purchased workstation kinda crapped out. In all honesty, I suppose that I have "back...
[07:46:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Retaliation. - 06FBI: "Just pay the ransom." - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:28] <exec> 08└─The data is not being stolen, it's being kidnapped and in an easily preventable way. The severity of the crime does not change based on how irresponsible the victim was, it's not a greater crime to break in a house protected by a simple lock than to break into one with a forcefield around it.
[07:46:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03EvilSS [1456] 02No choice - 06FBI: "Just pay the ransom." - 1029 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:46:39] <exec> 08└─If you don't have good, offline backups and you need the files you won't have much choice. A few of the keys have been recovered over the years but if you are unlucky enough to get hit with this and it's not one that's been exposed yet you're screwed. I've had customers pay to get source code, CAD f...
[07:46:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03danomac [979] (Score:2) 02Re:No choice - 06FBI: "Just pay the ransom." - 1034 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:44] <exec> 08└─We were hit by this at work about a year ago. Someone clicked a bad link in an email and it installed this. It slowly, but surely, started going through the entire workstation encrypting everything it could see, including any network shares. However, it did not spread from there and we caught it r...
[07:46:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:Translation: We're not competent so cave - 06FBI: "Just pay the ransom." - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:50] <exec> 08└─News flash: you cannot beat mathematics by being competent.
[07:46:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Defense of this... - 06FBI: "Just pay the ransom." - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:56] <exec> 08└─1. Share all your user folders on your home network such that they are read-only to a non-you user. 2. Get a raspberry pi and attach a usb drive to it. 3. Have it scan your user folders for changes. 4. Save the differences as necessary. 5. For additional safety, turn off the raspberry pi when not ba...
[07:46:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Defense of this... - 06FBI: "Just pay the ransom." - 2239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:59] <exec> 08└─I am not sure what you are saying. Are you saying that because a file was in use and someone noticed something was wrong and they killed power to her workstation, and as such it prevented her machine from eventually reaching the NAS? You said "started encrypting what it could on the network drives"...
[07:46:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03VanderDecken [5216] (Score:2) 02Re:Defense of this... - 06FBI: "Just pay the ransom." - 1665 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:00] <exec> 08└─Ok, let me try this again. If it's providing a network filesystem, I'm calling it a NAS. If it's providing a block device over the network, I'm calling it a SAN. Terms can get muddy, especially when marketing steps in, but let's go with those definitions. (In reality, most modern boxes can provide...
[07:47:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aristarchus [2645] 02Twits - 06Twitter Shares Fall 11% On Results - 40 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:47:11] <exec> 08└─I just want to say: "Die, Twitter, Die!"
[07:47:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03unzombied [4572] (Score:2) 02exponents - 06Twitter Shares Fall 11% On Results - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:16] <exec> 08└─That is the curious thing about growth stocks. This quarter is expected to be better than last quarter. Exponential growth is required. $10 last quarter needs to be $11 this quarter. $13 next quarter. No business can maintain this. Those that try make ever more drastic revenue-generating or risk-shi...
[07:47:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:subject - 06Twitter Shares Fall 11% On Results - 635 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:18] <exec> 08└─The reason for the investor unease is simple to understand. They suspect they have seen the end of user growth and are looking at the value of the company stabilizing as ad revenue also hits max. Put in perspective, dividing market cap by users gets about $60/user. Even if (a big IF) those were all...
[07:47:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Too old. - 06Twitter Shares Fall 11% On Results - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:21] <exec> 08└─you sound like a climate change extremist whacko
[07:47:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:okay, "investors"... - 06Twitter Shares Fall 11% On Results - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:33] <exec> 08└─They need to "monetize" it more. Which means... track, target, advertise and basically fuck over the internet as much as humanly possible for a 0.001th of a cent a click. Once everything's fucked up and gone to shit, THEN the investors will be happy.
[07:47:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the thrill - 06Drivers Pushing Tesla’s Autopilot Beyond Its Abilities - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:54] <exec> 08└─If only they weren't experimenting with other people's lives at the same time.
[07:48:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03ese002 [5306] (Score:2) 02Chaufer, no taxi - 06Drivers Pushing Tesla’s Autopilot Beyond Its Abilities - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:01] <exec> 08└─Taxi's are only available when it both profitable and convenient for the driver. Even when available, "profitable" often means expensive for the passenger. A car that is always at the beck and call of the owner is not a taxi but a private car with a chauffeur. Wealthy people have had them for nearl...
[07:48:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Auto park Valet - 06Drivers Pushing Tesla’s Autopilot Beyond Its Abilities - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:02] <exec> 08└─Audi already does this. Search Youtube for 'audi self parking'. Videos started posting a couple of years ago. https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[07:48:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:*sigh* - 06Drivers Pushing Tesla’s Autopilot Beyond Its Abilities - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:14] <exec> 08└─> They did do something about it. They clearly said not to be an idiot. Is RTFM not a legal defense? What kind of sociopath cares more about the law than about people losing their lives?
[07:48:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:May be? - 06Persian Gulf may Soon be Too Hot to Support Human Life - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:42] <exec> 08└─Execution is still a public spectacle in the US, even if the actual deed is done behind closed doors. Just look at the populism of politicians who big-note themselves based on the killing - or the thousands of clap-happy ghouls who congregate around execution facilities to dance on the grave of the...
[07:48:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's going to get really hot when... - 06Persian Gulf may Soon be Too Hot to Support Human Life - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:58] <exec> 08└─mazal tov!
[07:48:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Orion Blastar [5270] (Score:1) 02That just means - 06Persian Gulf may Soon be Too Hot to Support Human Life - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:48:59] <exec> 08└─that there will be more refugee migrants from the area making it to the EU and the USA and other nations where it is not as hot. Until it does become too hot in those places and people migrate north where it is cooler.
[07:49:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Couuard [797] (Score:1) 02Re:''guy who lives with Obama'' - 06Update: Dad Who Shot "Snooping Vid Drone" Out of the Sky is Cleared of Charges - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:49:23] <exec> 08└─Thanks for the youtube link Runaway. I laughed hard. It is probably old news to most people but I missed it. It is a catchy tune and I'll probably have it stuck in my head for a few days.
[07:49:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] 02Re:Great precedent, thanks a lot. - 06Update: Dad Who Shot "Snooping Vid Drone" Out of the Sky is Cleared of Charges - 375 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:49:31] <exec> 08└─A very long time. Shooting shotguns into the air isn't that dangerous...by the time the tiny shot pellets lose their upward momentum, they've basically lost all their momentum. It's not like bullets, which can overcome air resistance enough to keep their forward momentum. That's why you have outdoor...
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[09:15:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02in effect - 06Telstra Claims 18-Month-Long First Dibs on Ideas Created in Hackathon - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:15:55] <exec> 08└─So, participants are effectively enabling the next patent troll? This doesn't seem reasonable to me. All the crap discovered during a hackathon should be remain the "property" of the participants, and ideally shared openly with all other participants. That would be the proverbial "best of all possib...
[09:15:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The Lesson is: DON'T DO THINGS - 06Telstra Claims 18-Month-Long First Dibs on Ideas Created in Hackathon - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:15:56] <exec> 08└─Do not help scum make money. Stop doing things. STOP. NOW. But but but the Internet of Things is trendy, bro!! Trendy!!! Trendy!!! Trendy!!! Trendy!!! Trendy!!! BRO!!!!! Fuck you. All of you. FUCK YOU.
[09:15:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The Lesson is: BE SOCIAL LIKE SOCIAL LIKE LIKE - 06Telstra Claims 18-Month-Long First Dibs on Ideas Created in Hackathon - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:15:58] <exec> 08└─Mod down the troll! It says on the Facefucks and the Twatter and the ShitHub that being social is the social thing to do and everybody social does the social thing what everybody social is doing! So social!
[09:15:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Lesson is: BE SOCIAL LIKE SOCIAL LIKE LIKE - 06Telstra Claims 18-Month-Long First Dibs on Ideas Created in Hackathon - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:16:00] <exec> 08└─Hey, I'm not social, you insensitive clod!
[09:16:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Label - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:16:10] <exec> 08└─Wankey shallow monied individuals who differentiate themselves from the flock by being part of a smaller inferior flock?
[09:16:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Re:Why just vintage, why not really old? - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 520 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:16:12] <exec> 08└─May Grendel come and eat you! Actually, we can get just a wee bit older: Owis ek’woi kʷe Owis, jesmin wl̥nā ne ēst, dedork’e ek’wons woghom gʷr̥um weghontn̥s - bhorom meg'əm, monum ōk’u bherontn̥s. Owis ek’wobhos eweukʷet: K’erd aghnutai moi widn̥tei g’hm̥onm̥ ek’wons...
[09:16:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:This may be a passing fad... - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:16:14] <exec> 08└─Bespoke, peruse, smitten and dapper are hardly "vintage" words any more than the word "word" is vintage. They aren't common, buy yet never fell out of usage. Any half way well read person would find them in recent works as well as much much older ones. Is that a new trend, just because somebody was...
[09:16:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Hipsters? - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 1226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:16:16] <exec> 08└─Take a look at women's fashions. Women can decide that something is "out" this year, and "in" next year. If you look at fashions throughout the 20th century, you'll see that many things have come and gone, come back after decades, only to be forgotten again. From my point of view, there is no rhyme...
[09:16:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hipsters? - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:16:18] <exec> 08└─Hipsters? People with to much time on their hands, trying to be "cool".
[09:16:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Can't wait to read this - 06Physicists Uncover Novel Phase of Matter - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:16:26] <exec> 08└─Physicists Uncover Novel Phase of Matter
[09:16:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score:2) 02wishful thinking - 06Rewilding the Future - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:16:37] <exec> 08└─Hehe, that's not what I was getting at. But I think you are forgetting that modern farming is highly dependent on petroleum. So this is two things together which are of questionable sustainability. Meanwhile, California is irrigating the desert, and Climate Change could turn out to be a thing.
[09:16:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:That's logical - 06Rewilding the Future - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:16:39] <exec> 08└─If you want to go back to organic farming
[09:16:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03NoMaster [3543] (Score:2) 02Re:That's logical - 06Rewilding the Future - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:16:41] <exec> 08└─Malthusian theory is that we should be putting more and more marginal lands into production. But the reverse is true. The theory has been wrong 180 years ago. It was wrong 100 years ago. And its still wrong today.
[09:16:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Being Repurposed for Surveillance - 06Loose JLENS Balloon Causes Blackout - 448 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:17:00] <exec> 08└─More likely the argument will be made for more of them to be deployed. Just in case another one of them gets disabled/breaks loose, with more in the sky there will not be any loss of "protection". Side note: Did something happen to the Soylent user database? When I tried to log in to post I kept get...
[09:17:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02How many people? - 06Loose JLENS Balloon Causes Blackout - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:17:03] <exec> 08└─but its dragging cable caused an electrical outage affecting 30,000 or 35,000 people
[09:17:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Larry...? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:17:18] <exec> 08└─I was having a dig at the presumptive headline.
[09:17:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Larry...? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:17:23] <exec> 08└─Laffer?
[09:17:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Address space randomization? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:17:41] <exec> 08└─Sounds like this is just address space randomization, with not enough RAM to fill out the entire address space (like all 64 bit machines outside NSA HQ), and only the top 4 bits actually randomized. Am I missing some reason this would give more security than regular address space randomization?
[09:17:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:Health Fads - 06 The Gruesome History of Eating Corpses as Medicine - 146 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:17:50] <exec> 08└─Obligatory Futurama: "My God, this is an outrage. I was going to eat that mummy!" (and my longtime sig just happens to fit the topic - funny that)
[09:19:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimtheowl [5929] (Score:1) 02Re:"Covalent Synergy" - 06Researchers Create Technology to Produce Lighter, Long-lasting Batteries from Silicon - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:19:12] <exec> 08└─Are you trying to leverage my portfolio?
[09:20:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03khallow [3766] 02Re:Name of Mission - 06Monkeys are Heading to Mars - 94 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:20:20] <exec> 08└─I don't buy that this mission exists, especially on a two year schedule. It's probably a joke.
[09:21:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:RAID is not backup - 06FBI: "Just pay the ransom." - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:21:25] <exec> 08└─I think I was not clear: The RAID would be off-site, and off-line. The machine housing the disks will contain a Public-Private key pair, such that I can encrypt the backups in transit with only the public key. The sole purpose of using triple-redundant ZFS is to be able to detect read/write errors (...
[09:21:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03bart [2844] (Score:1) 02Re:RAID is not backup - 06FBI: "Just pay the ransom." - 606 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:21:28] <exec> 08└─Exactly, and the whole thread below is about all these smart people that have triply redundant zfs whatever NAS systems, where drives are never more than 2 years old, bla bla bla. How about a burglary, where the burglar steals the gear, or destroys it, just out of spitea fire?a power surge, destroy...
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[10:15:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Spam) 02Suck my cock! - 06The Penis Only Evolved Once, Suggests Study of Lizard Embryos - 2090 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:15:58] <exec> 08└─If you not drunk ladies and gentlemen Get ready to get fucked up Let's do it, ha-ha LMFAO, you know what? Lil Jon, yeah All of the alcoholics, where you at? Let's go, hey Hey, hey, hey, uh-huh Hey, hey, hey, let's go, yeah When I walk in the club, all eyes on me I'm with the party rock crew, all dri...
[10:15:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The World Championship SoylentJoke Competition - 06The Penis Only Evolved Once, Suggests Study of Lizard Embryos - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:15:59] <exec> 08└─It's here! The rules: - No "your mom" jokes - Avoid overly rude/tasteless language (Let's keep it PG-13, people!) - No contorted System D analogies (however tempting, especially in this case) Best of luck to you all.
[10:16:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The World Championship SoylentJoke Competition - 06The Penis Only Evolved Once, Suggests Study of Lizard Embryos - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:16:01] <exec> 08└─SystemD fucked your mom.
[10:16:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:The World Championship SoylentJoke Competition - 06The Penis Only Evolved Once, Suggests Study of Lizard Embryos - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:16:02] <exec> 08└─Hey, that's MY motherboard!
[10:16:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:The Lesson is: BE SOCIAL LIKE SOCIAL LIKE LIKE - 06Telstra Claims 18-Month-Long First Dibs on Ideas Created in Hackathon - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:16:13] <exec> 08└─> Hey, I'm not social says Anonymous Coward, author of terabytes of comments in big social sites.
[10:16:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:2) 02Yeah but... - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:16:32] <exec> 08└─I was cool with cool before it was cool.
[10:16:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score:1) 02Influence of reading material - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:16:33] <exec> 08└─I'm a fan of Patrick O'Brian's Aubrey-Maturin series (Master and Commander, et.al.), and re-read some every now and again. When I do so, I find some of my spoken language veers a few centuries.
[10:16:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Can't wait to read this - 06Physicists Uncover Novel Phase of Matter - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:16:43] <exec> 08└─I feel unphased by such romantic development.
[10:17:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Whale poop - 06Rewilding the Future - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:17:03] <exec> 08└─Some enterprising business will invent a whale poop simulating robot = problem solved.
[10:17:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Larry...? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:17:40] <exec> 08└─...the fact his sig has systemd commentary in it...
[10:17:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Larry...? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:17:45] <exec> 08└─Leisure suit Larry.
[10:17:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:I don't think it's 1 in 16 - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:17:49] <exec> 08└─There are existing attacks that will give you the other bits. The usual threat model for this kind of thing is that an attacker can read all of memory and can write in a specific place.
[10:23:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:May be? - 06Persian Gulf may Soon be Too Hot to Support Human Life - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:23:59] <exec> 08└─Progressism in hand with Islam is one of the red flags that people should mind when considering ideologies as something more than mere tools. Note I am not implying anything about the root around which ideology grows. But faith in ideals is personal and transmitted by example.
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[11:16:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02argument time - 06A Few Apple Stories to Argue About - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:16:01] <exec> 08└─two ain't a few!
[11:16:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Sounds bog standard - 06Telstra Claims 18-Month-Long First Dibs on Ideas Created in Hackathon - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:16:25] <exec> 08└─Slimy, underhanded, greedy & pugnacious all apply, but I'm not surprised Telstra (after all, this IS Telstra) includes this language. I thought they were pretty well known for seeing how duplicitous and usurious they could get away with. Anyone competing in this should already be aware they're deali...
[11:16:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What's old is new again - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 369 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:16:46] <exec> 08└─'Hipster' for example. Used to apply to beat-era kids who dressed like the beatniks & were at least reasonable hip. Disappeared from use entirely sometime in the 1970s, then re-emerged in the mid-aughts only to be bandied about so much it's lost all meaning. Language continues to recycle itself. Thi...
[11:17:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03massa [5547] (Score:1) 02Re:Didn't MIPS do this? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:17:47] <exec> 08└─This is basically for dealing with buffer overflows. The next cache line has a different colour, and if you don't know what it is, you don't have a valid pointer to it. When you try do dereference it, boom, program ab-ended, pokolips twarthed.
[11:18:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrNerdHair [5930] (Score:2, Informative) 02Headline irresponsibly mongers fears, news at 11 - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:18:20] <exec> 08└─Guys, this was never intended to prevent malicious code from accessing memory, so talking about "hacking" it is missing the point. (It's not like they outlawed pointer arithmetic, after all!) What it IS supposed to do is mitigate use-after-free vulnerabilities in benign code, and it does that quite...
[11:18:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02on a related note - 06 The Gruesome History of Eating Corpses as Medicine - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:18:33] <exec> 08└─http://www.webmd.com/baby/should-i-eat-my-placenta [webmd.com]
[11:20:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:The summary left out the most important part - 06The Doxing Trend - 542 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:20:05] <exec> 08└─Companies will just buy insurance to cover the cost. The question that business will ask is always "given a rate of x hacks/year, is it cheaper to pay the fines, get insurance to pay the fines or improve security?" I'd prefer a system where profits are garnished. If a company is hacked there is an i...
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[12:15:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Apple Cash - 06A Few Apple Stories to Argue About - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:15:56] <exec> 08└─What will Apple do with its mounting pile of cash? Obviously, they will donate a portion of it to the OpenBSD Foundation, to help the team pay their electric bills, since Apple's entire ecosystem is defended by PF and even Microsoft (OpenSSH) and Google (LibreSSL and Android libc) have contributed...
[12:15:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Is this the right room for an argument? - 06A Few Apple Stories to Argue About - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:15:57] <exec> 08└─What Apple will probably do with all that extra cash: Continue making money for its investors. Put some money into R&D to see if they can find another cash cow. In other words, what every company with a big pile of dough does.
[12:15:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Is this the right room for an argument? - 06A Few Apple Stories to Argue About - 906 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:59] <exec> 08└─"every company with a big pile of dough" Few companies have the kind of liquid assets that Apple does. It can be argued that keeping all those liquid assets is irresponsible. The money should be invested, or paid out to investors. It would be cool to see investors file a suit demanding a payout, whi...
[12:16:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02reminds me of an article - 06The Penis Only Evolved Once, Suggests Study of Lizard Embryos - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:16:11] <exec> 08└─The penis may only have evolved once, but the human design is almost certainly the peak as regards competition. All male mammals compete for reproduction rights/privileges, but the human penis takes that competition to a higher level. http://www.huffingtonpost.com
[12:16:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:reminds me of an article - 06The Penis Only Evolved Once, Suggests Study of Lizard Embryos - 469 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:16:12] <exec> 08└─A recent study from the University of Oxford, England, concluded that the penis was shaped the way it is was to give maximum pleasure to the man during sex. A follow-up study from the Sorbonne, France, concluded that the penis was shaped the way it is was to give maximum pleasure to the woman during...
[12:16:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Anytime I deal with a business... - 06Telstra Claims 18-Month-Long First Dibs on Ideas Created in Hackathon - 778 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:16:26] <exec> 08└─It seems anytime I deal with a business, they serve up a paper full of this kind of stuff. I usually skim it for weaseltalk - when I see it, I view the business as a business would view a person observed trying to shoplift. No quicker way to make my trust in a business evaporate faster than being h...
[12:16:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What's old is new again - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:16:48] <exec> 08└─PS: Hipster is the root of hippie
[12:16:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Hipsters - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:16:49] <exec> 08└─Fuck them. Fuck them right in the goat ass. There are many reasons these people should be punched in the face on sight, not the least of which is they profane the awesome manliness of beards. Look, kiddies, there are exactly two approved types of beards: the Grizzly Adams and the ZZ Top. If you're n...
[12:17:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Can't wait to read this - 06Physicists Uncover Novel Phase of Matter - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:17:00] <exec> 08└─The villainy is positively electric.
[12:17:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score:2) 02Re:Nena - 06Loose JLENS Balloon Causes Blackout - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:17:31] <exec> 08└─You know in the original German version [about.com] of the song, they weren't red, right? I think they just needed an extra syllable after going from "neunundneunzig luftballoons" to "ninety-nine balloons," and thought what the heck, it'd just give it a bit of extra symbolism.
[12:18:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03massa [5547] (Score:1) 02Re:Larry...? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:18:05] <exec> 08└─You *do* know that they are one and the same, don't you? :D
[12:18:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Larry...? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:18:06] <exec> 08└─His full name is Larry Thinks Oracle. It's right in the title! ;-)
[12:18:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:everything that is old is new again. - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 635 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:18:14] <exec> 08└─But couldn't the very same be achieved by simply allocating the memory in the virtual address space at an address with that bit pattern? Then if the upper four bits don't match, the pointer will simply point somewhere else, and if you arrange that this memory is unallocated (should be doable on the...
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[13:15:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02[subject redacted] - 06Internet Freedom Falls for Fifth Year in Row: Survey - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:54] <exec> 08└─[comment redacted]
[13:15:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:[subject redacted] - 06Internet Freedom Falls for Fifth Year in Row: Survey - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:15:55] <exec> 08└─In socialist France, comment redactez vous!
[13:16:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:2) 02Profit - 06A Few Apple Stories to Argue About - 1515 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:07] <exec> 08└─Is it just me that's incredibly suspicious when a company makes SO MUCH profit? I mean, it sounds great - guaranteeing the future of the company whose products you've bought, etc. But the logical side of my brain just says "They could probably cut the cost of every product they make in half, sell mo...
[13:16:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03mmcmonster [401] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Profit - 06A Few Apple Stories to Argue About - 1021 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:16:08] <exec> 08└─We all want cheaper devices, but who are we to judge how much profit a company makes? Presumably Apple has some people on board who help them decide how much an item should cost. Supply and demand curves are the hallmark of capitalism, aren't they? Playing Devil's Advocate here, consider this hypoth...
[13:16:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:The World Championship SoylentJoke Competition - 06The Penis Only Evolved Once, Suggests Study of Lizard Embryos - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:16:21] <exec> 08└─Overheard at a cocktail party: 'So, what do you do?' 'I study lizard penises.'
[13:16:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The World Championship SoylentJoke Competition - 06The Penis Only Evolved Once, Suggests Study of Lizard Embryos - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:16:22] <exec> 08└─No but what do you do for a living?
[13:16:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Label - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:16:50] <exec> 08└─People who adopt contrarian non-conformist behavior in order to differentiate themselves from the bulk of society.
[13:16:51] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aristarchus [2645] 02Why just vintage, why not really old? - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 422 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:51] <exec> 08└─Many's the time I oft would say: HWÆT, WE GAR-DEna in geardagum, þeodcyninga þrym gefrunon, hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon! oft Scyld Scefing sceaþena þreatum, monegum mægþum meodosetla ofteah, egsode eorlas, syððanærest wearð feasceaft funden; he þæs frofre gebad, weox under wolcnu...
[13:16:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03NotSanguine [285] 02Re:This may be a passing fad... - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 391 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:16:55] <exec> 08└─Bespoke, peruse, smitten and dapper are hardly "vintage" words any more than the word "word" is vintage. They aren't common, buy yet never fell out of usage. Any half way well read person would find them in recent works as well as much much older ones. Is that a new trend, just because somebody was...
[13:16:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Steamer trunks? - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 586 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:16:57] <exec> 08└─Well, they have been responsible for the use and propagation of many portmanteau words (such as "steampunk"), so perhaps it is fitting. However, the examples cited are not vintage words, they are all in my active vocabulary, and used fairly regularly. ("whilst", "amongst"??!?!? I use those every fre...
[13:17:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Influence of reading material - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:17:02] <exec> 08└─Do you find yourself oddly craving dishes with obscene names, such as "Spotted Dick" and "Toad-in-the-Hole?" Do you replace your stock phrases like "Move your ass!" with "With celerity, if you please?" Do you tell your doctor your weight in "stones?" Do you transpose obscure nautical terms like "lee...
[13:17:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Hipsters - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 881 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:17:06] <exec> 08└─Wouldn't you say that ZZ Top (minus Beard) were "styling" their beards before the hipsters were, and therefore were the real beard-hipsters? Either way, I disagree that hipsters need punching in the face because of their facial hair. They need punching in the face because of absolutely everything. I...
[13:17:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hipsters - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:17:08] <exec> 08└─You may like this https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[13:18:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I don't think it's 1 in 16 - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:18:28] <exec> 08└─That's like saying that adding an additional digit to a pin gives folks a 1 in 10 chance of cracking it.
[13:18:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Headline irresponsibly mongers fears, news at 1 - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:18:46] <exec> 08└─The headline is spot on: The chip is hacker-proof, but not cracker-proof.
[13:19:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re: limited human applications - 06Researchers Create a Sonic Tractor Beam - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:19:47] <exec> 08└─And he was right! They actually circumvented it by having the train stand still and the whole world around moving fast. If you've ever been in a train, you know that's how it works. ;-)
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[14:15:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Finally - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:15:54] <exec> 08└─A researcher (Ms. Rutkowska) with the balls to say what lots of other people have been muttering in their offices over the years. And the research chops to back it up.
[14:15:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Finally - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:55] <exec> 08└─A researcher (Ms. Rutkowska) with the balls to say
[14:15:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Here's the summary - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 1672 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:15:57] <exec> 08└─I will save you the 44 pages of drivel and show you the half-a-page summary: We have seen that the Intel x86 platform offers pretty advanced isolation and sandboxing technologies (MMU, VT-x, VT-d) that can be used to effectively de-privilege most of the peripheral devices, including their firmware,...
[14:16:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:[subject redacted] - 06Internet Freedom Falls for Fifth Year in Row: Survey - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:16:07] <exec> 08└─Did you suffer a lot from from your stroke?
[14:16:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilPapa [2366] (Score:2) 02Re:reminds me of an article - 06The Penis Only Evolved Once, Suggests Study of Lizard Embryos - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:16:36] <exec> 08└─The penis may only have evolved once, but the human design is almost certainly the peak as regards competition.
[14:16:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:reminds me of an article - 06The Penis Only Evolved Once, Suggests Study of Lizard Embryos - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:16:37] <exec> 08└─That's true. I have the blue ribbons to prove it.
[14:16:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02So much for - 06The Penis Only Evolved Once, Suggests Study of Lizard Embryos - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:16:38] <exec> 08└─draining the lizard.
[14:17:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:NGRAM can't identify hipsters - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:17:02] <exec> 08└─"Smitten" went out of style? I don't believe that is true.
[14:17:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Label - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:17:06] <exec> 08└─Technically, this is a "hipster" Slashdot. It is an endless quest to avoid the mainstream while feeling somewhat elitist, particularly by targeted conspicuous consumption and the living-out of mass-produced lifestyle fantasies provided by marketers.
[14:17:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:This may be a passing fad... - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 644 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:17:12] <exec> 08└─'bespoke', 'smitten' and 'dapper' are anglicisms some throw into their speech to convey sophistication. It's not really different from earlier times like post-WWI America when people laced their expressions with French, or 19th century society (and, really, much longer than that) when people did the...
[14:17:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:This may be a passing fad... - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:17:14] <exec> 08└─words such as 'bespoke', 'smitten' and 'dapper' are not just not vintage, rather they are in fairly common usage in the UK. Perhaps some Soylentils from across the pond could validate that
[14:17:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Steamer trunks? - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:17:17] <exec> 08└─That's a good one, as in, "a user 'yclept' FatPhil." My favorite, thanks to H.P. Lovecraft, is "croodle."
[14:17:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03JeanCroix [573] (Score:2) 02Re:Hipsters? - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:17:20] <exec> 08└─No. "Too" has become problematic: http://everythingsaproblem.tumblr.com [tumblr.com]
[14:17:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Welsh - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 971 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:17:29] <exec> 08└─In Wales, in the UK, there is a strong movement for using the Welsh language. It almost died out, it being assumed by the mid-20th Century that it would vanish as older people died off. But then it was revived, principally by the Welsh nationalist movement, and we now have bi-lingual signs here in W...
[14:18:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Being Repurposed for Surveillance - 06Loose JLENS Balloon Causes Blackout - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:18:16] <exec> 08└─Nope, i can still access your account just fine.
[14:18:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:everything that is old is new again. - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:18:53] <exec> 08└─We used 8" diskettes. 10 were fixed into a magazine.
[14:19:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:REI is closed for Black Friday - 06 The Gruesome History of Eating Corpses as Medicine - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:19:23] <exec> 08└─http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/501215-extremely-disturbing-soviet-zombie-experiments-reanimating-dead-animals/ [theepochtimes.com]
[14:19:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcross [4009] (Score:2) 02Usnea - 06 The Gruesome History of Eating Corpses as Medicine - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:19:25] <exec> 08└─Usnea actually is still considered by some to be an effective medicine, but I doubt it matters whether it grew on a skull. I used to harvest it from fallen sticks, mostly.
[14:23:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:No choice - 06FBI: "Just pay the ransom." - 644 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:23:13] <exec> 08└─I completely agree. The problem is two fold. One, most companies don't TEST their backups until they actually need them. This bit two of my customers with Ransomware. They thought they backing everything up but it turned out they were missing certain shares due to misconfigurations. The other probl...
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[15:15:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02That's a shame - 06SoylentNews Bitpay on the Fritz - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:15:57] <exec> 08└─I was one of the four - you guys took care of everything fast, and I thank you! Sorry to hear bitcoin payments are suspended - it's great being able to shoot a bit of "instant" cash someone's way. But it's not so instant if your payment processor craps out on you.
[15:16:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Finally - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:16:08] <exec> 08└─Also (this is to SN Mods), what is with the stupid beards men choose to wear these days? Those guys need to be punched in the face!
[15:16:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Finally - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:16:09] <exec> 08└─Also (this is to SN Mods), what is with the stupid beards men choose to wear these days? Those guys need to be punched in the face!
[15:16:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Finally - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:16:11] <exec> 08└─Yeah, shes got balls, and the smarts to back things up too. Come up with very clever hacks that have caused the security world to pull hair out and swear. E.g. http://www.berylliumsphere.com
[15:16:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02So what's the solution? - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 750 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:16:14] <exec> 08└─- Is there an alternative platform that has completely solved these problems? Yeah, I didn't think so. - Are these problems best solved by the CPU? For example, if the risk is overwriting the BIOS firmware, then the solution would seem to me to be putting the BIOS through much more rigorous testing...
[15:16:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So what's the solution? - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:16:16] <exec> 08└─They use "x86" not as the name of the CPU, but as the name of the platform. Indeed they explicitly note that the CPU provides everything needed to make an OS secure, but that the existing operating systems don't make use of that.
[15:16:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So what's the solution? - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:16:17] <exec> 08└─- Since some of these attacks require physical machine access, what's to prevent such an attacker from swapping out the presumably invulnerable new hardware with vulnerable old hardware?
[15:16:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02UltraSPARC_IV - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:16:19] <exec> 08└─UltraSPARC IV. "IV Ever." https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] Too bad that whole line is trapped in the dungeons of Oracle/Mordor.
[15:16:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:2) 02Re:Is this the right room for an argument? - 06A Few Apple Stories to Argue About - 664 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:16:38] <exec> 08└─If they keep the money in the bank isn't it being tacitly reinvested? I mean the banks don't just sit on the money while paying interest, they would go out of business! Likewise, even if they sat on that pile of money, by the fact that they took the money out of circulation they have increased the v...
[15:16:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03quacking duck [1395] (Score:2) 02Re:Profit - 06A Few Apple Stories to Argue About - 587 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:16:41] <exec> 08└─A lot of Apple fans are pissed that Apple is still starting storage at only 16 GB, the same amount the iPhone 3GS started with in 2009. Personally I'm also pissed that optical image stabilization is only available in the larger 5.5" 6/6S Pluses, not the smaller 4.7" 6/6s. So to get a reasonable stor...
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[15:16:43] <exec> 08└─I think these are all valid complaints. As a defacto "luxury" brand the entry level specs should be much higher. I am unsure why they have decided to go that route. There might be a more hidden motive there, like they want to ensure that people are compelled to use their cloud for storage of images,...
[15:16:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02Re:Profit - 06A Few Apple Stories to Argue About - 1534 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:16:44] <exec> 08└─Apple sells to the top 20% of income earners. That's their niche. They have targeted people for whom the annual cost of an iPhone cellphone plan is essentially nothing. These are high-income earners (or wannabe posers stretching themselves) can drop a few thousand dollars each year on the latest App...
[15:16:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02~1–3 grams of accuracy - 06A Few Apple Stories to Argue About - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:16:46] <exec> 08└─~1–3 grams of accuracy
[15:17:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Re:reminds me of an article - 06The Penis Only Evolved Once, Suggests Study of Lizard Embryos - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:17:03] <exec> 08└─The penis may only have evolved once, but the human design is almost certainly the peak as regards competition.
[15:17:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:reminds me of an article - 06The Penis Only Evolved Once, Suggests Study of Lizard Embryos - 458 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:17:04] <exec> 08└─That's kind of awesome. I learned long ago that roosters don't have a penis, and somehow, I ASSumed that other birds don't have them either. You link to a bird penis, so I double check - some birds do not, some birds do have penises. Hmmmmm . . . seems that chickens did have them, way back in the mi...
[15:17:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:This may be a passing fad... - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 823 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:17:40] <exec> 08└─"bespoke" has always bothered me because it is so opaque etymologically speaking. I guess the way I sooth my bother is with the sense of "arrange", but it appears that bespoke has gone through a whole range of meanings, suggesting that it has always been a hipster tool. Old English besprecan "speak...
[15:17:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Steamer trunks? - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:17:45] <exec> 08└─It could be because you've been alive since those words were commonly used : P
[15:17:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Steamer trunks? - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:17:46] <exec> 08└─Indubitably However, I'll add that in the UK, most of the example words are not considered unusual at all, it's not just me. Imagine if there was an article in The Reg about this - how the UK Hipster scene was starting to use archaic terms like "fall" (rather than "autumn"). Americans would rightly...
[15:17:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Gentlemen and Ladies of Leisure Support Group - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:17:54] <exec> 08└─Inquire within.
[15:17:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03donkeyhotay [2540] (Score:1) 02Re:Influence of reading material - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:17:56] <exec> 08└─That's interesting. I'm glad someone else noticed the same effect.
[15:18:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Hipsters - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:18:01] <exec> 08└─Aw man, that's harsh. I love a good handlebar mustache on my bartender. It's like being in an 1800's themepark!
[15:18:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03donkeyhotay [2540] (Score:1) 02Do I descry a bit of fluff? - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:18:03] <exec> 08└─Not a very well-written article, and I'm not sure the graphs confirm the author's thesis -- in a couple of cases the usage looks flat, rather than trending upwards. However, the maiden in the accompanying photograph has wondrous limbs.
[15:19:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Didn't MIPS do this? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 2153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:19:07] <exec> 08└─Personally, using the top bits of a pointer is asking for trouble. There are far better ways to solve the problem Old Mac users may remember the pain caused when the platform went from 24-bit pointers to 32-bits. Anything that used the top part of the pointer promptly broke. In terms of portability,...
[15:19:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Didn't MIPS do this? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:19:08] <exec> 08└─Frankly, the way to fix this is not having a linear memory map; x86_16 (aka real mode) required code and data to be separated into different segments, pointed at by CS and DS. Anything in a data segment could not be executed by the processor (it would caused a fault if I remember behaviors correctly...
[15:19:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:All 1s or 0s - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:19:46] <exec> 08└─No, when it comes down to it, computer memory is all transistors, capacitors and resistors. No wait, when it really comes down to it, computer memory is all electrons and quarks.
[15:20:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03TK [2760] (Score:2) 02Re:It's heavier than my laptop! - 06Samsung Announces 18.4" Galaxy View Tablet - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:20:33] <exec> 08└─That keyboard would either have to weigh a lot, or have some sort of back support, otherwise you're "laptop" would fall forward or backwards if you tilt the screen more than a few degrees.
[15:20:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:it aint a tracvtor beam.. - 06Researchers Create a Sonic Tractor Beam - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:20:52] <exec> 08└─Maybe a sonic screwdriver?
[15:21:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03skater [4342] (Score:2) 02Re:The summary left out the most important part - 06The Doxing Trend - 605 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:21:41] <exec> 08└─I see your point, but as others said: The point is to push the companies toward reducing what they store and to make sure a breach does cost them something. Until security breaches start seriously affecting profit, nothing will change. Sorry, but security is so horribly bad right now it's simply un...
[15:22:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:That's fucked. - 06Monkeys are Heading to Mars - 946 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:22:49] <exec> 08└─Humans get cabin fever because of their advanced intelligence and analytical skills. Monkeys are therefore less likely to suffer from this. My guess is, however, that they will end up with some form of sterotypy, as seen in some captive zoo animals. Hopefully the scientists will give them something...
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[16:15:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Who cares? - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:56] <exec> 08└─Fuck this shill.
[16:15:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02fuck this guy - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:57] <exec> 08└─He's from GM, better known as Government Motors.
[16:15:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:fuck this guy - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:58] <exec> 08└─Yeah, fuck this dude.
[16:15:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:fuck this guy - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:00] <exec> 08└─Not going after the messenger here, are we?
[16:16:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Uh huh... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:16:02] <exec> 08└─So are we suppose to trust his opinion since he was a VP at two failed car companies? So he has experience in running a company into the ground? Otherwise, why should the opinion of a former VP of Obama Motors matter?
[16:16:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Uh huh... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:03] <exec> 08└─So are we suppose to trust his opinion since he was a VP at two failed car companies?
[16:16:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:2) 02Lutz - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:16:05] <exec> 08└─Lutz is kind of an asshole. He may or may not be correct about Tesla, but he's still kind of an asshole.
[16:16:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:4, Insightful) 02And yet... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 701 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:16:07] <exec> 08└─...Tesla has an insanely long waiting list of people spending absurd amounts of money on their cars, and the factory is working overtime just to keep close to meeting demand. They're the most talked-about car company, the one with all the exiting new features like an autopilot and zero-footprint gul...
[16:16:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And yet... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:08] <exec> 08└─"Insanely long" relative maybe to the sales of other EVs. But the amount of reservations they have is a fraction of 1% of the total sales of any other successful car model.
[16:16:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And yet... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:10] <exec> 08└─This kinda reminds me of iphone. It wasn't something to be taken as a serious competition. At least according to the official competitor propaganda..
[16:16:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02A Silicon Valley company will buy them - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:16:12] <exec> 08└─Apple or Google/Alphabet are prime candidates. The fact that they are starting up their own car operations makes them more likely to be interested in buying Tesla, not less.
[16:16:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:2) 02Re:A Silicon Valley company will buy them - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:14] <exec> 08└─You may be right, but I rather not have that happen. See I want a fuckin' car, not an Ad-laden, piece of spyware on 4 wheels. If neither one touches Tesla, I will be very very happy.
[16:16:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03jlv2 [5299] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Have you driven one? - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:16:15] <exec> 08└─The Model S is an exceptional vehicle and a pleasure to drive. I've test driven it twice. I wish I was willing to pay that much for a car, as I would own one now. Instead, I settled for a Nissan LEAF for 1/3 the price. Thus, I still need to take an ICE when I drive on trips of 400+ miles since the L...
[16:16:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03ArcticScavenger [5890] (Score:1) 02Appreciated - 06SoylentNews Bitpay on the Fritz - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:16:19] <exec> 08└─Thanks for taking care of the issue. I noticed that something went wrong, but figured that you still received payment which was the more important part. Keep up the good work!
[16:16:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Here's the summary - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 1672 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:16:32] <exec> 08└─I will save you the 44 pages of drivel and show you the half-a-page summary: We have seen that the Intel x86 platform offers pretty advanced isolation and sandboxing technologies (MMU, VT-x, VT-d) that can be used to effectively de-privilege most of the peripheral devices, including their firmware,...
[16:16:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Here's the summary - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:33] <exec> 08└─Thank you for that. I did wade through a lot of verbiage, and still couldn't figure out what she was saying. Your summary helped a lot.
[16:16:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Here's the summary - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 482 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:34] <exec> 08└─But one aspect still presents a serious security challenge on x86 platform: the boot security. Intel has introduced many competing and/or complementary technologies which are supposed to solve the problem of boot security: support for TPM and TXT, support for SMM sandboxing, finally Boot Guard and U...
[16:16:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:So what's the solution? - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:39] <exec> 08└─and perhaps even going from firmware to an old-school ROM You have hit on it right there. We want field up-gradable firmware. Yet do not want to add in a jumper to make it read only. If your utility can write to it then someone else can too.
[16:16:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:UltraSPARC_IV - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:41] <exec> 08└─Oracle/Mordor
[16:16:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02IME - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:16:43] <exec> 08└─IME is THE security flaw of the decade.
[16:16:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Techwolf [87] (Score:2) 02arm - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:16:45] <exec> 08└─This is one reason i am happy to see ARM taking off like it is. Best part is anyone can make them. No Intle monipoly. Slightly off-topic, but how did the horriable memory mapping come about? ROM shoulda started at 0x00 and RAM after that. Then RAM coulda been expanded beyound current bit with withou...
[16:16:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02history repeats itself? - 06Internet Freedom Falls for Fifth Year in Row: Survey - 677 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:16:55] <exec> 08└─i think we went from 64 Kb c64 to now "who needs more then 640 KB" in the internet privacy world. soon steve jobs will be fired and apple will be sold short only to move to a awesome comeback. next we will have the pentium calculating flaw in the internet privacy world, which will be something like...
[16:17:22] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:The World Championship SoylentJoke Competition - 06The Penis Only Evolved Once, Suggests Study of Lizard Embryos - 24 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:17:22] <exec> 08└─SystemD fucked your mom.
[16:17:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fnord666 [652] (Score:2) 02Re:in effect - 06Telstra Claims 18-Month-Long First Dibs on Ideas Created in Hackathon - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:17:41] <exec> 08└─So, participants are effectively enabling the next patent troll? This doesn't seem reasonable to me. All the crap discovered during a hackathon should be remain the "property" of the participants, and ideally shared openly with all other participants. That would be the proverbial "best of all possib...
[16:18:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Influence of reading material - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:18:22] <exec> 08└─Do you find yourself oddly craving dishes with obscene names, such as "Spotted Dick" and "Toad-in-the-Hole?"
[16:20:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Big Red? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:20:07] <exec> 08└─No no, Big Red the red cream soda, not Big Red the chewing gum. Or Big Red Hat. Or Oracle, apparently.
[16:20:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Big Red? - 06Larry Thinks Oracle's M7 Chip is Hacker-Proof – But You May Have a 1-in-16 Chance of Cracking It - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:20:10] <exec> 08└─With the exception of a few modifications to the kernel, and a few extra packages, it is just RHEL rebranded:
[16:20:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:2) 02Re:Health Fads - 06 The Gruesome History of Eating Corpses as Medicine - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:20:29] <exec> 08└─> they ate all the mummies. And their cats.
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[17:16:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:fuck this guy - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:01] <exec> 08└─The qualifications of the messenger are often important. I'm not going to get advice about car maintenance from a data entry clerk. And I'm not going to get business advice from someone whose career is being a VP at two failed companies.
[17:16:03] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03TheRaven [270] 02Re:Uh huh... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 85 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:03] <exec> 08└─So are we suppose to trust his opinion since he was a VP at two failed car companies?
[17:16:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcross [4009] (Score:2) 02Re:Uh huh... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 1431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:05] <exec> 08└─"I think Tesla CEO Elon Musk figured that if factory stores work for Apple, they'll work for Tesla. But the fixed costs for an Apple store are next to nothing compared with a car dealership's. Smartphones and laptops don't need anything beyond a mall storefront and a staff of kids. A car dealership...
[17:16:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03pe1rxq [844] (Score:2) 02Re:Uh huh... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:07] <exec> 08└─Even if he was right about the high costs of a dealership the burden still ends up at the consumer who pays for it all. It does not matter how you split the cost between dealer and manufacturer.
[17:16:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03BasilBrush [3994] (Score:2) 02Re:Uh huh... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:08] <exec> 08└─Even with his concept of a full sized dealership, the idea that that is more expensive than an Apple store is ignorant. Apple Stores have the best locations in the best malls in the centres of cities. That's a LOT more expensive. Car dealerships are not in city centres, they are where the land comes...
[17:16:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Uh huh... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 964 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:10] <exec> 08└─You're correct, Tesla stores are showrooms. There are none of the other costs Lutz is talking about. The one in Long Island has a Model S you can sit in. When I went in last year I wanted to do a test drive but they said you had to schedule that through the website. Lutz's mind is frozen in the auto...
[17:16:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Uh huh... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:12] <exec> 08└─So he has experience in running a company into the ground?
[17:16:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] 02And yet... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 701 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:16:14] <exec> 08└─...Tesla has an insanely long waiting list of people spending absurd amounts of money on their cars, and the factory is working overtime just to keep close to meeting demand. They're the most talked-about car company, the one with all the exiting new features like an autopilot and zero-footprint gul...
[17:16:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And yet... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:16] <exec> 08└─Except that the iPhone outsold its contemporaries when it was first released.
[17:16:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03mth [2848] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:And yet... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:18] <exec> 08└─If there is any waiting list at all, that contradicts the "mounting inventory" statement from the article.
[17:16:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And yet... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:21] <exec> 08└─Not really. They have a waiting list for models not yet released which doesn't then mean they can't have a backlog of inventory for models they are currently making.
[17:16:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lunix Nutcase [3913] (Score:2) 02Re:And yet... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:23] <exec> 08└─Not really. If I'm in the waiting list for a Model X how would that preclude having mounting inventory of Model 2s?
[17:16:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lunix Nutcase [3913] (Score:2) 02Re:And yet... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:25] <exec> 08└─Obviously that should be Model *S*
[17:16:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And yet... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:26] <exec> 08└─How so? How would being in line for a Model X have any effect on the inventory backlog of the Model S?
[17:16:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:And yet... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 445 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:28] <exec> 08└─Yes, it sounds like listening to the Heartland Institute complain that a solar plant using 5% natural gas for energy use during non-peak periods to smooth the load is a terrible carbon polluter so stop all solar and use oil and coal, proven technologies with thorough research on helping you and your...
[17:16:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03daaelar [5403] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:And yet... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 1600 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:30] <exec> 08└─I'll bite. I don't necessarily agree with Mr. Lutz, but I'm not a fan of the Model S. My wife and I went to test drive one, fully intending to buy the dual-motor variant. The sales agent took one look at me (30-year-old engineer in jeans and t-shirt) and rolled her eyes. She didn't have answers to a...
[17:16:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:And yet... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:31] <exec> 08└─So you and lutz contradict on the facts. He says "excess inventory." You say "Customer waitlist" One of those has to be factually wrong(or Tesla is incompetent in a basically absurd way).
[17:16:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:And yet... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 806 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:34] <exec> 08└─"the factory is working overtime" In manufacturing, "overtime" shouldn't be much of a consideration. Three shifts, with enough extra people to keep it running 7 days per week. It might be easier to accomplish with a 4th shift, but the plant needs to run 24/7 with little if any "downtime". Most indiv...
[17:16:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Yup it dying... ;) - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 1104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:16:35] <exec> 08└─The have 'prefect" score on Consumer Reports: http://www.consumerreports.org [consumerreports.org] Actually, went over 100, to 103 so Consumer Reports had to change the scale. "Would" you buy it again: 97% yes. Looks like it wioes the floor with all other brands BMW, Merc...
[17:16:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Beryllium Sphere (r) (5062) (Score:3, Touché) 02"Dealers to attract customers"?! - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:16:37] <exec> 08└─Have you ever bought a car because the experience of buying from a dealer was so enjoyable?
[17:16:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:"Dealers to attract customers"?! - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 721 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:39] <exec> 08└─Not exactly - but I've known people to pay a little more to support a home town dealership, rather than the mega-dealership at the state capital. I've also known people to avoid dealerships because they were treated shabbily. The dealer can and does make a difference in a lot of sales. I've not boug...
[17:16:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrcoolbp [68] (Score:2) 02Re:That's a shame - 06SoylentNews Bitpay on the Fritz - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:16:41] <exec> 08└─No problem. We'll get it resolved and back in action soon.
[17:16:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrcoolbp [68] (Score:2) 02Re:Appreciated - 06SoylentNews Bitpay on the Fritz - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:16:44] <exec> 08└─Absolutely, thanks for the understanding/patience.
[17:16:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Who is junior admin? - 06SoylentNews Bitpay on the Fritz - 391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:16:45] <exec> 08└─Someone has to be to blame. Whoever is most junior has to be blamed and skewered. If not skewered, then Ncommander should make him walk the plank. Yeah, I'm being snarky, but I do have a serious question. How hard is it to check bitpay once a day, and see if any payments need to be processed? Am I j...
[17:17:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So what's the solution? - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:04] <exec> 08└─And instead of solving problems like BIOS malware with a simple jumper, the industry resorts to horribly over-engineered solutions like secureboot.
[17:17:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:IME - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:08] <exec> 08└─> security flaw *backdoor with plausible deniability. I can't believe somebody can design that stuff for the sake of end user's security. Want secure boot? formally verify the simplest bootloader you can think of, and make it redscreen with the hash of the payload whenever it detects it's changed, r...
[17:17:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The World Championship SoylentJoke Competition - 06The Penis Only Evolved Once, Suggests Study of Lizard Embryos - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:52] <exec> 08└─Q: What do girls now say when they want cunnilingus ? A: Fuck me like a tuatara.
[17:17:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03FatPhil [863] 02Re:reminds me of an article - 06The Penis Only Evolved Once, Suggests Study of Lizard Embryos - 469 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:54] <exec> 08└─A recent study from the University of Oxford, England, concluded that the penis was shaped the way it is was to give maximum pleasure to the man during sex. A follow-up study from the Sorbonne, France, concluded that the penis was shaped the way it is was to give maximum pleasure to the woman during...
[17:18:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:in effect - 06Telstra Claims 18-Month-Long First Dibs on Ideas Created in Hackathon - 503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:18:10] <exec> 08└─That much is reasonable. Demanding an exclusive license is not. Reaping an idea or ten from any hackathon is cool. Requesting permission to use an idea is cool. If the author demands a licensing fee, and both parties agree to that fee, we're still cool. But demanding that license be exclusive is not...
[17:18:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Anytime I deal with a business... - 06Telstra Claims 18-Month-Long First Dibs on Ideas Created in Hackathon - 1169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:18:17] <exec> 08└─I have argued these things as well. Often, the business will not budge, decry me for being an obstacle, say it is not feasible to make changes, say everyone else jumped off the bridge so why don't I sign it, etc. I refuse to agree to such things, and if they don't accomodate me then yeah sorry I gue...
[17:18:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Why just vintage, why not really old? - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:18:34] <exec> 08└─Wait... I think I remember that from my time at Miskatonic Elementary School. Didn't it end with Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn?
[17:25:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Defense of this... - 06FBI: "Just pay the ransom." - 998 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:25:14] <exec> 08└─Yes indeedy! My goal really was to provide for posterity a description from someone like you (and me) that having a network share to store backups on doesn't mean it's a backup -- it means its another copy. People mistake raid for backups, and copies for backups, and indeed a raid can host copies of...
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[18:15:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02unnecessary - 06Harvard Law Library Readies Trove of Decisions for Digital Age - 517 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:15:56] <exec> 08└─Google released the plans, and offered to license the patents, for the scanner it used for its Google Books project. My assumption is that that would include U.S. patent 7508978, which is a technique for projecting a pattern onto the pages of an open book, and using the image of that pattern as pick...
[18:15:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:unnecessary - 06Harvard Law Library Readies Trove of Decisions for Digital Age - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:15:57] <exec> 08└─I suppose I should add: with Google's patented technique, there's no need to cut the pages out of books so that they can be made flat. The flattening is done with image processing.
[18:16:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03BasilBrush [3994] (Score:2) 02Re:fuck this guy - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:12] <exec> 08└─“PC guys are not going to just figure this out. They’re not going to just walk in.” -- Palm CEO Ed Colligan on the iPhone.
[18:16:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Uh huh... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:17] <exec> 08└─He says the company is "losing $4000 per car" which, if true, means consumers aren't paying enough to cover the costs.
[18:16:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Uh huh... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:20] <exec> 08└─Over the air software updates keep making the car better after you've bought it. What other car does that?
[18:16:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Uh huh... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:23] <exec> 08└─Hey, Carly Fiorina thinks that qualifies her to be president of the United States for some reason. And a strikingly large number of people seem to agree with that.
[18:16:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Uh huh... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:25] <exec> 08└─If you ignore all the people shes' shafted for personal gain (admittedly a lot of that is due to the absence of adult supervision at HP and Lucent ...
[18:16:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03daaelar [5403] 02Re:And yet... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 1600 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:36] <exec> 08└─I'll bite. I don't necessarily agree with Mr. Lutz, but I'm not a fan of the Model S. My wife and I went to test drive one, fully intending to buy the dual-motor variant. The sales agent took one look at me (30-year-old engineer in jeans and t-shirt) and rolled her eyes. She didn't have answers to a...
[18:16:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03BasilBrush [3994] (Score:2) 02Re:A Silicon Valley company will buy them - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:41] <exec> 08└─Well that's only an argument against Google. But I wouldn't want to see Apple buy them either. Because it'll be far more interesting to have Tesla and Apple as competitors, seeking to outdo each other.
[18:16:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:2) 02Re:A Silicon Valley company will buy them - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:43] <exec> 08└─Well let me write an argument more tailored towards Apple: "Siri, please navigate me to nearest McDonalds" "I'm sorry, I cannot do that as you have not subscribed to google Navigation"
[18:16:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:A Silicon Valley company will buy them - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:45] <exec> 08└─You may be right, but I rather not have that happen. See I want a fuckin' car, not an Ad-laden, piece of spyware on 4 wheels. If neither one touches Tesla, I will be very very happy.
[18:16:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03BasilBrush [3994] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Have you driven one? - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:47] <exec> 08└─I wonder why no one has come up with battery trailers for rent. Ones that connect to the EV to extend range. You'd just hire one when you needed the range and hitch it up.
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[18:16:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Have you driven one? - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 511 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:49] <exec> 08└─@BasilBrush - 100% Agree! I was hoping they would put the chargers in there rear, not in the side of the vehicles. Then you could put the small trailer hitch and have the power port available native. We already have a number of nation wide truck rental places that could expand their business too (of...
[18:16:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yup it dying... ;) - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:50] <exec> 08└─Why do you insist on spelling it "Telsa"? Tesla.
[18:16:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03BasilBrush [3994] (Score:2) 02Re:"Dealers to attract customers"?! - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:53] <exec> 08└─I buy used cars, and purely because I hate the idea of both dealerships and haggling with a private trade, I always buy them at auction. The fact that it's cheaper that way is a side benefit.
[18:16:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Let us count the ways this is wrong - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 2529 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:16:55] <exec> 08└─The first major claim is that company-owned stores are intrinsically unprofitable. This may be the historic trend, but it is not impossible. This can be proven simply by commutation - a business's profitability does not depend on who owns it, and there are a large number of franchised car dealership...
[18:17:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:That's a shame - 06SoylentNews Bitpay on the Fritz - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:17:04] <exec> 08└─I remember I granted you a freebie two week subscription :) I'm happy to see you followed up with a real one!
[18:17:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:Who is junior admin? - 06SoylentNews Bitpay on the Fritz - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:17:08] <exec> 08└─I don't make people walk the plank. I MAKE THEM CODE IN PERL! ...
[18:17:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:So what's the solution? - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:17:30] <exec> 08└─Most EEPROM chips have a write-lock which is tripped by most firmware to prevent it from being updated. This is standard on UEFI systems where the environment can take a capsule file, and then flash it to the ROM chip without making said EEPROM writable by the operating system.
[18:17:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:arm - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 600 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:17:36] <exec> 08└─As someone who worked with ARM, trust me, it's not better from a security perspective. Its essentially the same as x86 minus the backward compatibility. ARM32 and AArch64 (ARM64) both come with trustzone built onto the die which allows you to run a hypervisor transparently to the main operating syst...
[18:17:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02This will continue thanks to legacy politicians - 06Internet Freedom Falls for Fifth Year in Row: Survey - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:17:48] <exec> 08└─Change comes one funeral at a time as they say.
[18:17:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:argument time - 06A Few Apple Stories to Argue About - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:17:58] <exec> 08└─two ain't a few! Wrong you couple fanboy! few: [reference.com] adjective, fewer, fewest. 1. not many but more than one
[18:18:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Apple Cash - 06A Few Apple Stories to Argue About - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:18:00] <exec> 08└─Nitpick: Most of their user-land comes from FreeBSD. Apple might not donate cash, but they do contribute in the form of WebKit and a few other open source projects. That being said, I'm fairly sure a lot of projects would love a cash infushion.
[18:18:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:~1–3 grams of accuracy - 06A Few Apple Stories to Argue About - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:18:11] <exec> 08└─the sensor won’t weigh beyond a maximum weight of ~385g (0.85 lbs)
[18:18:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:The World Championship SoylentJoke Competition - 06The Penis Only Evolved Once, Suggests Study of Lizard Embryos - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:18:23] <exec> 08└─I would mod this as "toushy" instead of "touche".
[18:18:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score:2) 02fish penis - 06The Penis Only Evolved Once, Suggests Study of Lizard Embryos - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:18:34] <exec> 08└─A gonopodium is pretty much the same idea as a penis. IANAB(iologist) but a quick look at wiki suggests that fish did not descend from the common ancestor of amniotes mentioned in TFS.
[18:19:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Why just vintage, why not really old? - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:19:10] <exec> 08└─Remember, just bang the rocks together guys...
[18:19:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:This may be a passing fad... - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 1245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:19:16] <exec> 08└─Bespoke : The word is odd - perhaps it originated that something is made to a spoken order. In the link to "bespoke water" (I realise it's a spoof) the word "bespoke" is misused. It does not mean "superior"; it means made to a customer's order. Obvious example, as in your dictionary link, is clothin...
[18:19:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This may be a passing fad... - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:19:18] <exec> 08└─Bespoke, peruse, smitten and dapper are hardly "vintage" words any more than the word "word" is vintage. They aren't common, buy yet never fell out of usage. Any half way well read person would find them in recent works as well as much much older ones. Is that a new trend, just because somebody was...
[18:19:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Yeah but... - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:19:29] <exec> 08└─I used to be with it, but then they changed what *it* was. Now what I'm with isn't *it*, and what's *it* seems weird and scary to me. It'll happen to you...
[18:19:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Influence of reading material - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:19:35] <exec> 08└─Interesting. What's the verdict, are they worth making, or are they merely fanciful names for "meat and potatoes?"
[18:19:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Influence of reading material - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:19:39] <exec> 08└─I only read it -- never cooked from it. I don't eat mammals so that is a limiting factor for me, but it is a fun book if you love the series because you get a better idea of what the characters were eating.
[18:20:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:How many people? - 06Loose JLENS Balloon Causes Blackout - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:20:36] <exec> 08└─31,415.59, precisely. 4th order of mag from Pi: a round cable dangling from a somewhat spherical balloon. They're still trying to figure out how to round off the victims.
[18:22:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re: - 06Researchers Create a Sonic Tractor Beam - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:22:35] <exec> 08└─Behold! The latest in Anti-Terror Weaponry. XD
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[19:15:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Gruff - 06Decision Making -- Use Your Intuition or Reason? - 5 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:55] <exec> 08└─gruff
[19:15:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Gruff - 06Decision Making -- Use Your Intuition or Reason? - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:56] <exec> 08└─I'll see your "Gruff" and raise you "Much".
[19:15:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Decisions / Information - 06Decision Making -- Use Your Intuition or Reason? - 715 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:57] <exec> 08└─It's a very simple pattern. 1. Data 2. Data + Context (experience) = Information 3. Information + Context (experience) = Knowledge 4. Knowledge + C(exp) = Wisdom 5. Wisdom + C(exp) = Grok When people are sufficiently along this pattern, their Intuition is really Reason based on Data/Information/Know...
[19:15:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Decisions / Information - 06Decision Making -- Use Your Intuition or Reason? - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:59] <exec> 08└─I believe that AC has it, or he's really close to having it. With enough experience, you don't need to reason your way through every decision. Of course, there are those who over estimate their experience, and make snap decisions which are unwarranted.
[19:16:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:unnecessary - 06Harvard Law Library Readies Trove of Decisions for Digital Age - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:16:09] <exec> 08└─Right, and Google would do it for most libraries for free. But these books have no real value, they become obsolete and outdated before they are shipped from the publisher. Furthermore they probably still carry copyrights. One wonders how the University will get around that.
[19:16:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score:2) 02A step in the right direction - 06Harvard Law Library Readies Trove of Decisions for Digital Age - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:16:11] <exec> 08└─Of course, the real solution is to dramatically simplify the US Code. Google 'three felonies a day' if you genuinely don't think this is needed. However, making case law freely accessible is also necessary to a functional, free society.
[19:16:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:A step in the right direction - 06Harvard Law Library Readies Trove of Decisions for Digital Age - 479 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:16:13] <exec> 08└─Actually, its case law that keeps lawyers in business. The law doesn't mean what is written in the statute. It means what some judge ruled in some obscure case somewhere, which becomes precedent everywhere until some other judge of different authority or jurisdiction rules otherwise. The laws in thi...
[19:16:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:fuck this guy - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:16:26] <exec> 08└─Sure, we all know what happened when we tool physics advice from a patent clerk
[19:16:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:fuck this guy - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:16:27] <exec> 08└─we get stuck in a dead end for decades?
[19:16:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:fuck this guy - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:16:29] <exec> 08└─Are you comparing this guy to Einstein?!? Thats almost like a reverse goodwin.
[19:16:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:fuck this guy - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 776 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:16:30] <exec> 08└─Lutz was a product and marketing guy, made it to the top by supporting styling/design and engineering departments -- a very rare career path in the US auto industry (in recent history). At both Chrysler and GM he was not part of creating their big business problems, see a short bio, https://en...
[19:16:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:fuck this guy - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:16:32] <exec> 08└─The guy has a giant conflict of interest too.
[19:16:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Uh huh... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:16:41] <exec> 08└─There is virtually no maintenance.
[19:16:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Uh huh... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:16:46] <exec> 08└─Isn't the president (whether of a business or of the government) supposed to be adult supervision rather than requiring adult supervision?
[19:17:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03BasilBrush [3994] (Score:2) 02Re:A Silicon Valley company will buy them - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:17:03] <exec> 08└─Why would Apple care if you're subscribed to Google Navigation.
[19:17:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:2) 02Re:A Silicon Valley company will buy them - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:17:04] <exec> 08└─Freudian slip :/
[19:17:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03BasilBrush [3994] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:A Silicon Valley company will buy them - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:17:07] <exec> 08└─Yes really. Apple has iAd as a tiny part of what they do. Google is a company who's entire business is advertising.
[19:17:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:2) 02Re:Yup it dying... ;) - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:17:14] <exec> 08└─Used to happen to me all the time back in High School playing C&C Red Alert: "Damn those Telsa Coils!"
[19:17:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yup it dying... ;) - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 1085 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:17:16] <exec> 08└─Not that I'm a big fan of Consumer Reports, but you missed their latest downgrade -- http://www.consumerreports.org [consumerreports.org] As part of our Annual Auto Reliability Survey, we received about 1,400 survey responses from Mod...
[19:17:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:That's a shame - 06SoylentNews Bitpay on the Fritz - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:17:26] <exec> 08└─My plan is to re-up some day, too. I hope to do my part (at least some of it) to keep this place alive and kicking. (For all the blather I post, I figure it's the least I can do!)
[19:17:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Who is junior admin? - 06SoylentNews Bitpay on the Fritz - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:17:31] <exec> 08└─I'll code in Perl if I can get somebody to pay me for it! Ironically today at $JAVA_JOB, my paycheck came up a day short. Still waiting for the powers that be in HR to sort that one out. They are telling me even after it's sorted out I probably won't see the money via ACH until Tuesday. If I were pa...
[19:17:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrcoolbp [68] (Score:2) 02Re:Who is junior admin? - 06SoylentNews Bitpay on the Fritz - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:17:33] <exec> 08└─Usually I check admin console here on SN, now I'll have to be more diligent and check paypal, bitpay, and SN more often.
[19:17:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Who is junior admin? - 06SoylentNews Bitpay on the Fritz - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:17:35] <exec> 08└─See, and that's the problem (for those following along) - Bitpay et al are supposed to make this easy so that nobody has to do this sort of checking (although it's still obviously good due diligence).
[19:17:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:UltraSPARC_IV - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:17:58] <exec> 08└─Sun open sourced a lot of the SPARC design so anyone can use it if they want. UltraSPARC IV was very late and therefore slow. It's replacement, project Millennium, was killed in 2005 ie 5 years late and no product. Rock flopped. That's why they went with Niagara (T1) and Fujitsu SPARC64.
[19:18:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:arm - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:18:03] <exec> 08└─Furthermore, at least on AArch64, ACPI has become a standard, which requires the ACPI runtime baked into the kernel (which must run unsandboxed and capable of running any command itlikes)
[19:18:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Profit - 06A Few Apple Stories to Argue About - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:18:36] <exec> 08└─"They could probably cut the cost of every product they make in half, sell more, and still make a shed-load of profit for their shareholders".
[19:19:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Why just vintage, why not really old? - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:19:38] <exec> 08└─Let's be perfectly clear about this: archaic and vintage language is cool and all hipster. Made up languages (c'mon, the proto-Indo-European only dates from 1868!) like Klingon and all those Tolkien made up, and those on Game of Thrones, are nerdy. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Oh, an...
[19:20:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:That's logical - 06Rewilding the Future - 569 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:20:38] <exec> 08└─Well, I don't pretend to know what you personally want :-) It was a rhetorical device. However there is a natural limit to the amount of fertilizers, Roundup, and other chemistry that you can put into the plants (and the cattle.) Here is a quote from The Three-Body Problem by Cixin Liu: she said, ...
[19:21:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Deflated - 06Loose JLENS Balloon Causes Blackout - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:21:00] <exec> 08└─Turns out the State Police deflated it with shotguns. http://abc7ny.com [abc7ny.com]
[19:21:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Space Elevator - 06Loose JLENS Balloon Causes Blackout - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:21:08] <exec> 08└─Let's just hope that whoever installed this doesn't get the contract for the space elevator.
[19:22:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Seems misspecced - 06Samsung Announces 18.4" Galaxy View Tablet - 476 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:22:40] <exec> 08└─Once you have shaky hands, always misplaced reading glasses, trouble grabbing small things, and a preference for reading big fonts on tabloid-sized paper to avoid scrolling all the time, you may notice that there's a growing group of customers for the "oversize tablet which doesn't leave the home" m...
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[20:15:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Gruff - 06Decision Making -- Use Your Intuition or Reason? - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:15:58] <exec> 08└─I'm glad I didn't say "boobs".
[20:15:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:Gruff - 06Decision Making -- Use Your Intuition or Reason? - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:15:59] <exec> 08└─which one, the little goat, the medium goat, or the big goat Gruff?
[20:16:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Decisions / Information - 06Decision Making -- Use Your Intuition or Reason? - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:16:03] <exec> 08└─That is way too overthought and filled with assumptions. Try this: Objectivity available? Reason. Not? Then it's a subjective choice. Reason is worthless. Use intuition.
[20:16:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02False Dichotomy - 06Decision Making -- Use Your Intuition or Reason? - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:16:04] <exec> 08└─They left out weather, chicken bone, tea leaves, spot's poop geometry, smell of your car exhaust, chromatic shade of the sun, the quality of your hair day, level of the spouse' psm symptom, the length of that lone long hair on your big toe... damn I'm exhausted. Please, no more such autistic pseudos...
[20:16:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:False Dichotomy - 06Decision Making -- Use Your Intuition or Reason? - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:16:06] <exec> 08└─Yes, this is deliberation in decision making. Lies and statistics provide the same thing, but the statistics may have a bit of truth to them.
[20:16:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:False Dichotomy - 06Decision Making -- Use Your Intuition or Reason? - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:16:08] <exec> 08└─There are reasons, and there are reasons. Even more so, "intuition" is a catch-all term for whole loads of things, and each such "intuition" has reasons of its own. Reason vs. intuition? Marvel vs. purple?
[20:16:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Just a sec - 06Decision Making -- Use Your Intuition or Reason? - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:16:10] <exec> 08└─(flips coin) Reason.
[20:16:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03zaxus [3455] (Score:1) 02Re:Just a sec - 06Decision Making -- Use Your Intuition or Reason? - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:16:11] <exec> 08└─OK...we're cool, Twoface.....for now....
[20:16:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:unnecessary - 06Harvard Law Library Readies Trove of Decisions for Digital Age - 1530 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:16:20] <exec> 08└─Arguably the paper format is obsolete, but if the books are outdated and have no real value, there would be no need to digitize them, other than to create busy-work. The article calls the collection "priceless" and says that millions of dollars are being spent on this effort. You raise a good questi...
[20:16:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:unnecessary - 06Harvard Law Library Readies Trove of Decisions for Digital Age - 429 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:16:22] <exec> 08└─But right away, you can see that Harvard is planning to go beyond that: Under the agreement with Harvard, the entire underlying database, not just limited search results, will be shared with nonprofit organizations and scholars that wish to develop specialized applications. Ravel and Harvard will w...
[20:16:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Uh huh... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:16:48] <exec> 08└─He says the company is "losing $4000 per car" which, if true, means consumers aren't paying enough to cover the costs.
[20:16:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Uh huh... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:16:49] <exec> 08└─Well until I see an actual source on that, he hasn't show himself to be spot on with the rest of his arguments.
[20:16:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:Uh huh... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 58 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:16:55] <exec> 08└─So he has experience in running a company into the ground?
[20:17:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:And yet... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:17:07] <exec> 08└─Tesla carries no inventory. All cars are ordered online, then built to order.
[20:17:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:And yet... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:17:09] <exec> 08└─Yeah...and just how many Dodge Vipers have you seen on the streets?
[20:17:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marco2G [5749] (Score:1) 02Re:And yet... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 1174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:17:13] <exec> 08└─Well, while your eyperience certainly is valid, don't you think that lynching a whole company with the failings of one sales rep is a tad overzealous? I went there, just like you, in regular clothes. I had an extremely nice chat with the sales rep during the drive and when his next appointment fell...
[20:18:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So what's the solution? - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 458 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:18:05] <exec> 08└─I'm not an electrical engineer but AFIK, it's possible to create a set-only volatile flags which once set can prevent the overwriting of the chip in the physical circuitry even by the BIOS itself. This would allow to ensure that only uncompromised firmware code can update itself as long as the flag...
[20:19:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:The World Championship SoylentJoke Competition - 06The Penis Only Evolved Once, Suggests Study of Lizard Embryos - 78 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:19:01] <exec> 08└─Overheard at a cocktail party: 'So, what do you do?' 'I study lizard penises.'
[20:19:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Rat Orgasms - 06The Penis Only Evolved Once, Suggests Study of Lizard Embryos - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:19:12] <exec> 08└─I remember going to a talk by a girl that studied female rat orgasms. You could tell they were orgasming when they arched their backs.
[20:19:29] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03anubi [2828] 02Anytime I deal with a business... - 06Telstra Claims 18-Month-Long First Dibs on Ideas Created in Hackathon - 778 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:19:29] <exec> 08└─It seems anytime I deal with a business, they serve up a paper full of this kind of stuff. I usually skim it for weaseltalk - when I see it, I view the business as a business would view a person observed trying to shoplift. No quicker way to make my trust in a business evaporate faster than being h...
[20:20:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:That's logical - 06Rewilding the Future - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:20:50] <exec> 08└─Roundup is not "poured" onto the plants. Its usually applied before planting. And the amount used [geneticliteracyproject.org] is probably far less than your most conservative estimates.
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[21:15:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02$55 billion is an obscene amount - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:15:56] <exec> 08└─Your personal share of this thing is like $200, if you're a US citizen. Every single one of us forking over $200 just to give to Northrop Grumman, and for just one project.
[21:15:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lunix Nutcase [3913] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:$55 billion is an obscene amount - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:15:57] <exec> 08└─You think this is actually going to come in at budget? This thing is probably gonna cost a couple hundred billion.
[21:15:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:$55 billion is an obscene amount - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:15:58] <exec> 08└─I just had to look it up, the entire budget for the US State department in FY2014 was apparently less than this project's proposed budget.
[21:15:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:$55 billion is an obscene amount - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:16:00] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but the State Department is ineffective.
[21:16:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:$200 billion is an obscene amount - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:16:02] <exec> 08└─Awww you think that this will come in on budget when the *prototype* is ten years away? That's cute.
[21:16:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03jon3k [3718] (Score:1) 02Re:$55 billion is an obscene amount - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:16:04] <exec> 08└─You pay many, many times that so someone can sit at home and play xbox and sell weed. $200 for the next generation of bomber, that will last us several decades? Sure, where do I write the check.
[21:16:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:$55 billion is an obscene amount - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:16:05] <exec> 08└─You pay many, many times that so someone can sit at home and play xbox and sell weed.
[21:16:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The next F-35 boondoggle - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:16:07] <exec> 08└─We have Stealth Bombers. They stopped making them before we had a good complement of them. Start the old production lines back up, and save a ton of money.
[21:16:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:The next F-35 boondoggle - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:16:09] <exec> 08└─Have we hit "peak weapons"? Repeatedly it seems like we're hearing that new military systems are failing to adequately justify themselves relative to existing systems. Is there a point where trying to add new features just results in an over-engineered shitbox compared to something that maybe just l...
[21:16:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Re:The next F-35 boondoggle - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 818 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:16:11] <exec> 08└─The B-2 is rather lacking as a replacement for the B-52 - namely, it has a lower payload, costs an order of magnitude more to operate, and costs several orders of magnitude more to purchase. The B-52 does need replacement - the airframes are positively ancient, and won't be airworthy forever. The de...
[21:16:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lunix Nutcase [3913] (Score:2) 02Re:The next F-35 boondoggle - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:16:12] <exec> 08└─The current failure of the F-35 program makes me far less confident that they can do better today.
[21:16:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I'm all for it - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:16:14] <exec> 08└─Now we just need to say goodbye to REM, too.
[21:16:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Glossary - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 3336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:16:16] <exec> 08└─The US Department of Defense The US Department of Offense USA hasn't done anything that could be considered defense since the Battle of New Orleans in 1815. Oh, BTW, that battle was fought after a peace treaty had been signed. We could dissolve DoD, and leave the actual defense of the country to the...
[21:16:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"investment in the next 50 years" - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:16:18] <exec> 08└─Laos was bombed from 1964 to 1973 and the bombs are still exploding, around 50 years later. They are killing around 100 people per year. http://www.nytimes.com [nytimes.com] http://www.theguardian.com
[21:16:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Re:unnecessary - 06Harvard Law Library Readies Trove of Decisions for Digital Age - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:16:42] <exec> 08└─but if the books are outdated and have no real value, there would be no need to digitize them
[21:16:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03unzombied [4572] (Score:2) 02Editing the Law - 06Harvard Law Library Readies Trove of Decisions for Digital Age - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:16:45] <exec> 08└─Ya know, as long as they're doing this, could someone please copy/paste all the "insert the following phrase before Book seven Chapter eighteen Section IV paragraph c second sentence beginning with 'party of second part'" to where they belong?
[21:17:00] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:fuck this guy - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 237 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:17:00] <exec> 08└─The qualifications of the messenger are often important. I'm not going to get advice about car maintenance from a data entry clerk. And I'm not going to get business advice from someone whose career is being a VP at two failed companies.
[21:17:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:fuck this guy - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:17:04] <exec> 08└─Actually, "Goodwin" is a good name for that.
[21:17:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:fuck this guy - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:17:05] <exec> 08└─Yes, a patent clerk with a college education in physics. Hence, he would have the qualifications for being an expert on topics related to physics.
[21:17:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Uh huh... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 217 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:17:10] <exec> 08└─So are we suppose to trust his opinion since he was a VP at two failed car companies? So he has experience in running a company into the ground? Otherwise, why should the opinion of a former VP of Obama Motors matter?
[21:17:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03mmcmonster [401] (Score:2) 02Re:Uh huh... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 587 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:17:17] <exec> 08└─Odd. That's probably taking into account the infrastructure Tesla is building in their supercharger network. Or just taking their losses and dividing it out over the number of cars they sell. I was under the impression that the markup on the base model was around $10k and goes skyward from there. Th...
[21:17:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03McGruber [3038] (Score:2) 02Re:Uh huh... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:17:19] <exec> 08└─Tesla's Atlanta showroom is a store inside the Lenox Square Mall. It is just a few steps away from Nieman Marcus and one floor below the Apple Store.
[21:17:20] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02Re:Uh huh... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 964 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:17:21] <exec> 08└─You're correct, Tesla stores are showrooms. There are none of the other costs Lutz is talking about. The one in Long Island has a Model S you can sit in. When I went in last year I wanted to do a test drive but they said you had to schedule that through the website. Lutz's mind is frozen in the auto...
[21:17:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03mmcmonster [401] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Uh huh... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 825 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:17:24] <exec> 08└─I've own a Tesla for about 19 months now (got it in 3/2014). Put 37k miles on it. I had my first service at a year (~24k miles). They replaced the tires and suggested that I rotate the tires in the fall so they would last longer. They also replaced the wipers and changed out some bolts and fasteners...
[21:17:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Uh huh... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 385 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:17:25] <exec> 08└─I work with a guy who's had a Model S since they became available. He says he spends more, per mile, on the tires than on everything else combined. Looking at the picture in GP's post, someone likes their car enough to spend $600 on getting stuff lubed and fluids changed. I guess it comes with the "...
[21:17:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03mmcmonster [401] (Score:2) 02Re:Uh huh... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 562 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:17:27] <exec> 08└─Tesla test drives are hit-and-miss. I walked into a dealer in late 11/2013 in Manhattan and asked a few questions. No other customers in the store, so the salesperson offered me a test drive. It was a weekday at 3pm or so. I went another time a month later at King of Prussia mall and because of how...
[21:17:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lunix Nutcase [3913] (Score:2) 02Re:And yet... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:17:39] <exec> 08└─Not true. They sell cars from inventory both new and pre-owned.
[21:17:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03mmcmonster [401] (Score:2) 02Re:And yet... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:17:41] <exec> 08└─I'm curious about the mounting inventory issue. From what I understand, it's still 1-2 months for a Model S delivery, suggesting they have no inventory on them either. You certainly are getting a custom build when you order the Model S, not looking at their inventory and picking something that is cl...
[21:17:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lunix Nutcase [3913] (Score:2) 02Re:And yet... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:17:43] <exec> 08└─You can buy inventory cars. You can even find posts about people talking about it.
[21:18:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03DonkeyChan [5551] (Score:1) 02Poll the BTC daemon - 06SoylentNews Bitpay on the Fritz - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:08] <exec> 08└─I HIGHLY recommend building a thing that polls the BTC daemon or cron/grep 's the POST data. I had a similar issue once and moving to a polling system took about 8 hours of coding a thing and I've had zero problems since. Note, 8 hours because I didn't know what I was doing.
[21:18:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So what's the solution? - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 606 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:18:33] <exec> 08└─The Free Software Foundation tells [fsf.org] us that "AMD chipsets do not contain anything like AMT. Note, however, that there are other comparable problems in hardware from both Intel and AMD." There's a laptop they recommend [soylentnews.org]; it sounds like the purveyor faced great difficulty [fs...
[21:18:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03novak [4683] (Score:2) 02Re:arm - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 557 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:18:42] <exec> 08└─The only mitigation to ARM's many woes is that at least we have multiple vendors producing them and the BIOS is sometimes open. x86 is rapidly becoming intel only, and nearly every x86 board ever made runs proprietary BIOS and firmware. Going to another architecture- even one not much better- could...
[21:18:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03unzombied [4572] (Score:2) 02Qubes - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:44] <exec> 08└─Has anyone tried Rutkowska's Qubes [qubes-os.org]? Looks useful even though susceptible to the same hardware/firmware exploits.
[21:19:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02And now for something completely different... - 06The Penis Only Evolved Once, Suggests Study of Lizard Embryos - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:19:45] <exec> 08└─The Penis Song [youtube.com] from Monty Python's last film The Meaning of Life. Oh, you know someone had to make a reference it here.
[21:20:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why just vintage, why not really old? - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:20:24] <exec> 08└─DUMROMANIOMNESCAPITALISLITTERASSINEINTERVALLISUSIERANT
[21:21:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:That's logical - 06Rewilding the Future - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:21:25] <exec> 08└─And the amount used is probably far less than your most conservative estimates.
[21:21:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How many people? - 06Loose JLENS Balloon Causes Blackout - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:21:55] <exec> 08└─The Washington Post said 35,000; the Baltimore Sun said "about 20,000"; NBC, "around 30,000" and USA Today was silent on the matter. I suppose I should have written "estimated at 20,000 to 35,000" or the like.
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[22:16:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02dam dung - 06Samsung Sees Profits Jump on Demand for Chips and Displays - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:16:01] <exec> 08└─Dam dung bong chong product.
[22:16:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:$55 billion is an obscene amount - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:16:14] <exec> 08└─The war against Iran just got pushed back 15 years, right on time to field-try the delayed proto of the new bomber. That's pretty efficient use of our money.
[22:16:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:$55 billion is an obscene amount - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:16:18] <exec> 08└─You pay many, many times that so someone can sit at home and play xbox and sell weed.
[22:16:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:$55 billion is an obscene amount - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:16:21] <exec> 08└─You pay many, many times that so someone can sit at home and play xbox and sell weed. $200 for the next generation of bomber, that will last us several decades? Sure, where do I write the check.
[22:16:22] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] 02Re:The next F-35 boondoggle - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 368 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:16:23] <exec> 08└─Have we hit "peak weapons"? Repeatedly it seems like we're hearing that new military systems are failing to adequately justify themselves relative to existing systems. Is there a point where trying to add new features just results in an over-engineered shitbox compared to something that maybe just l...
[22:16:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:The next F-35 boondoggle - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:16:26] <exec> 08└─I think the B52 has been studied to be re-engined more than once, and there was recently a story suggesting it might happen this time around. [jalopnik.com] Why does the B2 cost more to operate? Its just astronomical what that plane costs to sit and do nothing. Here is a link to a Time Mag story [ti...
[22:16:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:2) 02Re:Glossary - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:16:29] <exec> 08└─I concur. We pay so much for our military that our military budget alone could easily run a continent. That's horrifying. I'm not saying no military. What I am saying is that having enough military power to kill everyone just one time is probably enough. We could cut taxes in half or give every chil...
[22:16:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:3, Informative) 02Children of the corn - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:16:31] <exec> 08└─Children of slashdot???? WTF? I just Soyled myself: was this copy and paste?
[22:16:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03cellocgw [4190] (Score:1) 02On the bright side - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:16:33] <exec> 08└─... NOC stock jumped something like 8 or 9 percent this week. We're all rich! (Well, by "we" I mean the C-level officers of NOC, of which I am not a member).
[22:16:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Decisions / Information - 06Decision Making -- Use Your Intuition or Reason? - 715 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:16:44] <exec> 08└─It's a very simple pattern. 1. Data 2. Data + Context (experience) = Information 3. Information + Context (experience) = Knowledge 4. Knowledge + C(exp) = Wisdom 5. Wisdom + C(exp) = Grok When people are sufficiently along this pattern, their Intuition is really Reason based on Data/Information/Know...
[22:16:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Ambiguous question - 06Decision Making -- Use Your Intuition or Reason? - 895 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:16:52] <exec> 08└─There's a strong divide between what we should use to make decisions, and what we do use to make decisions. In situations where there is sufficient time and data available, we should make use of our brains, gather data, run computations, and so forth. In a lot of cases, we can indeed reach the optim...
[22:17:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Uh huh... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:17:46] <exec> 08└─$600 for that! holy crap, cost of ownership is high
[22:17:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Uh huh... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:17:52] <exec> 08└─Point being, why would we hand authority and responsibility to somebody who has repeatedly demonstrated cannot handle authority and responsibility? Because that's just plain stupid.
[22:18:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And yet... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 560 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:18:11] <exec> 08└─California and ten other states are requiring automakers to sell "zero emission vehicles" such as electric cars. As the parent post implies, BMW has been selling an electric car, the i3. The entry of Audi to the luxury market, when Tesla is planning its offer a model for the masses, may not prove fa...
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[23:15:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Yeah, okay... - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:57] <exec> 08└─The Wall Street Journal
[23:15:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Lies and damn lies. - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:59] <exec> 08└─"The steam engine owed almost nothing to the science of thermodynamics, but the science of thermodynamics owed almost everything to the steam engine [tumblr.com].
[23:16:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:$55 billion is an obscene amount - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:16:25] <exec> 08└─I'm O.K. paying $800 for an air defense fleet for the rest of my lifetime (family of 4) - much more so than the $350 we spent on Gulf War II.
[23:16:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:$55 billion is an obscene amount - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:16:26] <exec> 08└─This is ONLY the bomber. You've also got to pay for the F-35, the pilots, the training, the overhead of the air force operations. I'm afraid you're not getting off the hook for 1k.
[23:16:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:The next F-35 boondoggle - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:16:30] <exec> 08└─Have we hit "peak weapons"? Repeatedly it seems like we're hearing that new military systems are failing to adequately justify themselves relative to existing systems. Is there a point where trying to add new features just results in an over-engineered shitbox compared to something that maybe just...
[23:16:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:The next F-35 boondoggle - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:16:34] <exec> 08└─The B-52 does need replacement - the airframes are positively ancient, and won't be airworthy forever. The design was good for the time, but we could do considerably better now (particularly the engines). It fills a very useful role, though, and should not be removed from service without a true repl...
[23:16:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Glossary - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:16:39] <exec> 08└─...and who do you think is buying up all of USA's gov't bonds? USA's ever-more-impoverished working class? Nope. It's the Chinese again.
[23:16:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Username [4557] (Score:2) 02What use are they? - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:16:43] <exec> 08└─Are they going to use them to deploy drones or what? Russia seems to only use their tu95s to probe other countries defenses. Maybe they’re going to starting doing that too. With cruise missiles getting more high tech and cheaper to build, seems kinda silly to spend that amount of money to replace...
[23:16:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Decisions / Information - 06Decision Making — Use Your Intuition or Reason? - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:16:57] <exec> 08└─Nah, most people see something happen once or twice and assume it will always happen that way. Thus: prejudice, and the success of advertising.
[23:17:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Re:Just a sec - 06Decision Making — Use Your Intuition or Reason? - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:17:03] <exec> 08└─This is what game theorists call a mixed strategy. Actually probably not even a bad one.
[23:17:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score:2) 02Depends on the importance. - 06Decision Making — Use Your Intuition or Reason? - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:17:06] <exec> 08└─If it doesn't really matter, I don't give a fuck. I'll do whichever my body leans toward in the breeze. For important stuff, and especially ethical decisions, logic is always best. Only gotcha is, faced with two equal choices, and one benefits you, choose the OTHER. People tend to subconsciously ben...
[23:17:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:unnecessary - 06Harvard Law Library Readies Trove of Decisions for Digital Age - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:17:19] <exec> 08└─if the laws can be copyrighted, we are so far past anything resembling sanity that phonebooks and recipes are probably under copyright as well. I am copyrighting this comment on copyright, and preemptively copyright any comment anyone may make on my comment as a derivative work.
[23:18:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:And yet... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:18:29] <exec> 08└─Last I heard, it was two shifts, with production 6-days a week and with maintenance and engineering coming in on Sunday for line upgrades and such, and maybe an operator to do a run off. Your manager is supposed to ensure you have two days off each week, but the mentality out there is to come in on...
[23:18:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Who is junior admin? - 06SoylentNews Bitpay on the Fritz - 887 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:18:49] <exec> 08└─Surprisingly difficult. Generally only our treasurer keeps access to the bitpay/paypal/stripe accounts, so anyone but him checking them would be right out. And given the amount of work we pile on poor mrcoolbp's shoulders plus his day job and non-work life, it's a miracle he has time for it all. Che...
[23:18:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Poll the BTC daemon - 06SoylentNews Bitpay on the Fritz - 394 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:18:51] <exec> 08└─Wouldn't have helped. They changed the api so much nothing I coded would have worked anymore. Only watching the logs extremely diligently (four transactions with them in six months) would have caught it unless they broke backwards compatibility in such a way that our script dumped an OMGWTFBBQ to th...
[23:21:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Steamer trunks? - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 887 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:21:19] <exec> 08└─That meaning of "fall" has, for as long as I can remember, been in common use in America. Examples: http://www.cosmopolitan.com [cosmopolitan.com] http://www.vogue.com [vogue.com] http://www.harpersbazaar.com
[23:22:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:That's logical - 06Rewilding the Future - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:22:11] <exec> 08└─6B people
[23:22:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Whale poop - 06Rewilding the Future - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:22:16] <exec> 08└─It's already being done at Kona, Hawaii as part of an OTEC project. http://www.spc.int [spc.int]
[23:22:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02xkcd comic - 06Rewilding the Future - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:22:18] <exec> 08└─http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/1338:_Land_Mammals [explainxkcd.com]
[23:24:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:it aint a tracvtor beam.. - 06Researchers Create a Sonic Tractor Beam - 748 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:24:45] <exec> 08└─"As the algorithm tunes the phases, the interference pattern and resulting hologram change, enabling researchers to move the bead around." The fact it happens to support it against gravity is incidental to the tractor-beam ability of moving it laterally, which could include "pulling" an object in mi...
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