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[00:45:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Debate - 06DNA Study Says Dog First Appeared in Central Asia - 452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:45] <exec> 08└─There seems to be a lot of debate about this, and according to TFA this study hasn't ended that. With the discovery of 80,000 year old Homo Sapien teeth in China recently, it maybe that the domestication of the dog gets pushed back too, they seem to have been very important to an awful lot of differ...
[00:45:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The contentious question of when dogs appeared. - 06DNA Study Says Dog First Appeared in Central Asia - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:46] <exec> 08└─Fido's uncertainty principle - you can know where they were or when they were but not both.
[00:45:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Hot Dog... - 06DNA Study Says Dog First Appeared in Central Asia - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:48] <exec> 08└─Takes on a new meaning in Korea, where you won't find one running loose.
[00:46:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02spider drones - 06IARPA’s New Director Wants You to Surprise Him - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:46:00] <exec> 08└─Spider drones. Small ones. Capable of navigating tight spaces.
[00:46:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 535 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:46:19] <exec> 08└─USB to RS232 adapters are notoriously problematic. It has been a while since I looked into it, but IIRC it has to do with interrupt timing/processing - like they rely on the driver to poll for data rather than send an interrupt to the host when new data arrives. I'm sure running in a VM exacerbates...
[00:46:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:1, Troll) 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 723 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:46:20] <exec> 08└─Last I heard, a lot of that expensive specialized industrial software doesn't work under Windows 10, but these machines, when connected to the internet, update to Windows 10 anyway, breaking the industrial software on 6-figure machines. So basically you don't have a choice: you have to use some old...
[00:46:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lunix Nutcase [3913] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:The historical record says no - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:46:29] <exec> 08└─Of which nearly a 1/3 have a "garbage" rating. And nearly half of all apps fall into the lowest two ratings.
[00:46:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The historical record says no - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:46:31] <exec> 08└─Just because it's in that list doesn't mean it actually runs or runs well.
[00:46:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:The historical record says no - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 723 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:46:32] <exec> 08└─2. A broad swath of Industry, Government and a few universities could come together and standardize a Windows conpatible API/ABI and demand all purchases be compliance tested against that standard instead of whatever Microsoft ships. That would freeze a target long enough to catch it and make it wor...
[00:46:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:0, Troll) 02Re:its over - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 447 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:46:40] <exec> 08└─I haven't used Photoshop in years, but if you need something that's compatible with Photoshop saves and runs on Linux, you might take a look at http://www.thebloomapp.com [thebloomapp.com] . It's still in development, but it's already rather impressive. But, that being said, professionals...
[00:46:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02I thought ReactOS was dead - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 450 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:46:47] <exec> 08└─Haven't heard about ReactOS in years, if I were asked I would have said it was dead (and it's only in Alpha). Obviously if it were a viable alternative to Windows it would be a healthy distribution at this point in history. Linux is still going stronger than ever, and even the BSDs have been getting...
[00:46:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03meisterister [949] (Score:2) 02Fundamentally, yes... - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:46:48] <exec> 08└─...realistically, no. It is technically possible to completely reverse-engineer Windows, including all of its quirks, but realistically speaking that would cost millions of dollars and take a large team of people years to do.
[00:46:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03goody [2135] (Score:2) 02Windows 7 - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:46:50] <exec> 08└─Make it good enough to be a viable alternative to Windows 7, then maybe we can consider Windows 8 or 10. Until then your viable alternative to Windows 10 is OSX, or Linux if you're will to put in the time.
[00:46:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilPapa [2366] (Score:2) 02You're joking - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:46:52] <exec> 08└─It's not an alternative to Windows 10 until ReactOS can run Fallout 4. Instead, ReactOS looks like something that was running on the computers in Fallout 3.
[00:46:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Windows 7 Embedded - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:46:53] <exec> 08└─You can use WES 7 (or 8), as they are built by you to your requirements, and may not even contain the updater. A more or less complete version of WES will run what you need.
[00:47:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes - 06512-bit RSA Keys Cracked in Four Hours for only $75 - 676 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:47:09] <exec> 08└─There is a point where brute-forcing becomes impossible for all time. That occurs when the smallest-power theoretically possible operation (per quantum physics), times the number of operations necessary to brute-force within time t, exceeds the energy content of the universe. Time t? It doesn't matt...
[00:47:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03vux984 [5045] 02Re:structure vs lawsuit? - 06SN Financial "Stretch Goal" 2015 - 97 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:47:31] <exec> 08└─Declare the company bankrupt and start another one? Would that be cheaper than fighting lawsuits?
[00:47:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:my vote: Airplane tickets and hotel room - 06SN Financial "Stretch Goal" 2015 - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:47:37] <exec> 08└─What about hiring a graphic designer to make a new logo? Honestly, that's a pretty good idea. Plus, we could make it a whole thing out of it that would lead to all sorts of navel-gaving meta articles! I know I sound really, really sarcastic right now but that's just my natural tone.
[00:47:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:So much for SanDisk quality - 06Western Digital Acquires SanDisk, MyPassport 256-bit AES Encryption "Useless" - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:47:53] <exec> 08└─WD or Seagate? https://www.backblaze.com [backblaze.com] There is no reliable hard disk drive these days. Maybe HAMR will improve things over PMR, maybe not.
[00:48:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:Another problem solved by Open source... - 06When a Dev Dies, Their Apps Should Live On - 1182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:48:29] <exec> 08└─There are software that can no longer be run because their source code is gone and the architecture they run on is gone. If the source code is FOSS, it is at least still possible to port to a new architecture. If the architecture API is FOSS (not proprietary licensed), it is at least still possible...
[00:49:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Ahhh, government in action - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:49:07] <exec> 08└─That's a good reason to use pencils instead.
[00:49:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03el_oscuro [1711] (Score:2) 02Re:Ahhh, government in action - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 736 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:49:19] <exec> 08└─About 20 years ago I worked for a government agency as a contractor. I took a job for a different contract, then returned 6 months later to the same agency on a different part of the contract. On my first day back, the government accountant was waiting for me at my desk, with an invoice for about 10...
[00:49:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Of course it will be corrupt - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:49:37] <exec> 08└─Dell? No, it'll probably be a shitty HP. And how exactly with the drones be happy with Windows 10 anyway? No one likes that shit except for a few total morons.
[00:50:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:a question for deniers - 06Warming Opens Famed Northwest Passage to Navigation - 1538 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:50:07] <exec> 08└─It's because people presenting themselves as scientists to the public who do not have the proper self-skepticism (climate researchers are far from alone in this btw) are, even if inadvertently, working to destroy a pillar of modern civilization. Why does the Venus troposphere have the same temp-pres...
[00:50:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:2) 02Re:a question for deniers - 06Warming Opens Famed Northwest Passage to Navigation - 807 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:50:08] <exec> 08└─It is you people who are in denial there are fossils of tropical plants in the arctic, them things did not get there with the temperatures/CO2 levels this planet is at now. The Earth and its other species will do just fine, the people living in coastal areas not so much. And the real problem is neve...
[00:50:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm not surprised ... - 06First Report of Gaping Security Flaws in Internet of Things Device - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:50:26] <exec> 08└─I'm not surprised either, and I suspect most Soylentils won't be. This device will have been designed by some Marketing Graduate and built by the cheapest Chinese manufacturer available, with no QS. I'm sure it will sell very well.
[00:50:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 349 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:50:51] <exec> 08└─I'm not following you. What does this have to do with speech? Take a hard look at yourself, man. Are you seriously siding with abuse of state power because you don't like the politics of one party who happens to be complaining about it? You need to climb down off your partisan horse and recognize wh...
[00:51:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''ultra-left politics (and I'm a liberal)'' - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 1215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:51:15] <exec> 08└─You seem to be saying that those 2 are one and the same. NOT EVEN CLOSE. "Liberal Democracy" is a Right-Center thing. [politicalcompass.org] Taken to its natural conclusion, it's what's gotten The Working Class into a serious bind over the last several decades. [fpif.org] (orig) [fpif.org] It accept...
[00:52:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Removed this a couple months ago. - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 1263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:52:53] <exec> 08└─People laugh at me for using an old browser or phone or whatever. I must be so stupid I can't even cheat if I am so uncool as to use a blackberry. How do I play games on it when bored? I must be too poor to upgrade every year, or too dumb to just not pay an extra $20 forever to ensure I get a new ph...
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[01:45:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02MOOCS - 06Helping Students Stick with MOOCs - 1038 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:45:46] <exec> 08└─I don't have faith in MOOCS. While the idea is nice, the fact is that people who don't have the time and/or motivation for regular college (especially in an all-online curriculum) probably won't do so well at MOOCS. In fact, they may do less well because they feel that the stakes are lower and less...
[01:45:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:The contentious question of when dogs appeared. - 06DNA Study Says Dog First Appeared in Central Asia - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:56] <exec> 08└─At the risk of being chastised for dredging up an old meme, who let the dogs out?
[01:46:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:spider drones - 06IARPA’s New Director Wants You to Surprise Him - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:46:11] <exec> 08└─Small ones. Capable of navigating tight spaces.
[01:46:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Plastic bag - 06IARPA’s New Director Wants You to Surprise Him - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:46:12] <exec> 08└─I would give him a plastic bag that he can put over his head. And a rubber band to hold the bag tight around the neck.
[01:46:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:46:32] <exec> 08└─Not to mention that if you're coding applications that work with serial, you may even have to change your code in specific ways to accommodate USB-serial adapters. And another note, anybody who thinks that RS-232 is an ancient and obsolete technology has never held any real technical or industrial j...
[01:46:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 581 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:46:34] <exec> 08└─Someone modded you troll. Apparently, they don't work with industrial equpiment. Branson welders discovered the truth of what you're saying. They stopped making Windows controlled welders, and switched off to Linux. None of our capital investment level equipment has ever used Windows. None of our sm...
[01:46:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:hardware - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:46:38] <exec> 08└─We believed that to be true at one time. For that reason, programs were developed to slipstream updates and drivers into the installation media, and to strip out unwanted portions of the OS. http://www.nliteos.com [nliteos.com] Remove IE from the installation media, and it can never start up once i...
[01:46:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03unzombied [4572] (Score:2) 02Re:The historical record says no - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:46:46] <exec> 08└─Only 6000 apps then, which is apparently "few" to some.
[01:46:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:The historical record says no - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 533 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:46:47] <exec> 08└─No, go count how many are Gold with -no- notes. You can get rated gold and still have showstopper bugs like no printing, broken networking, can't use required hardware, etc. By the time you really get down to the real world usability of non-trivial applications the number is low. And you just write...
[01:46:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:updates? - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:46:53] <exec> 08└─Thanks for the info! That does clear it up a lot.
[01:47:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:my vote: Airplane tickets and hotel room - 06SN Financial "Stretch Goal" 2015 - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:47:56] <exec> 08└─I agree that repaying the $3,417 should be a priority. ... I think that saving money for a legal fund is a waste. If you are lucky, that money will just sit around, if you are not lucky, then the money you will have collected won't even make a dent.
[01:48:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So much for SanDisk quality - 06Western Digital Acquires SanDisk, MyPassport 256-bit AES Encryption "Useless" - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:48:12] <exec> 08└─When you get your (multi-)TB hdd, run a thorough test first - there is a Linux utility that writes and read back the entire disk a few times with multiple patterns. It will last a couple days to complete. Even that's no guarantee though. A disc failed after a few month even though it passed the test...
[01:49:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Of course it will be corrupt - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:49:58] <exec> 08└─It talks to their Active Directory, does the full Exchange experience, etc. And all of the internal apps. Never forget that one, that is the real secret to Microsoft's power; the zillions of internal apps (ok, forms tied to an Access database in most cases but they are so proud of themselves) that i...
[01:50:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:a question for deniers - 06Warming Opens Famed Northwest Passage to Navigation - 408 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:50:29] <exec> 08└─Same AC. Another thing is that I agree with conservation and limiting pollution, etc (let's start by transitioning away from an economy that punishes saving because it's based on a ponzi scheme). Even the people pure of heart are misguided here. In an effort to manipulate the average joe with pseudo...
[01:50:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:a question for deniers - 06Warming Opens Famed Northwest Passage to Navigation - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:50:31] <exec> 08└─Pascal was stupid for his wager, and so are you.
[01:51:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Intentional misspelling? - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:51:53] <exec> 08└─No, it wasn't intentional, but as typos go, it was a good one!
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[02:45:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Crime regards security as damage - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:39] <exec> 08└─and routes around it. Consider the original meaning of the Underwriter's Laboratoratories rating: it was how many hours an experienced safecracker would require to bust open a safe.
[02:45:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Something something something - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 665 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:40] <exec> 08└─Something you know, Something you have, Something you are. As for PIN's - that is some stupid nonsense. 4-digit security numbers? Really? No alphas, no special characters, only 4 digits? WTF? The banking and credit card industries simply aren't all that interested in security, or they would start al...
[02:45:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Something something something - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:45:41] <exec> 08└─The number one goal of credit cards is to replace cash. The more complicated they make it to use the cards, the less likely they are to achieve that goal. That is why the merchant rules for visa, mastercard and the others all forbid merchants from requiring ID to complete a transaction except in ext...
[02:45:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Something something something - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 975 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:45:43] <exec> 08└─Chip and Pin (EMV) standard was initially written in 1993 and 1994. This is the first serious hack of these cards, which is why its news. Prior to this hack, the only way chip and pin cards have been compromised is by theft WITH the pin, (usually because some users write the pin on the card). Until...
[02:45:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:MOOCS - 06Helping Students Stick with MOOCs - 542 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:45:52] <exec> 08└─All MOOCs are not created equal. Some are there only to make money and provide no value for students. Others are there to genuinely help students learn new things. And there are others who will give you a certificate only if you pay a bribe. But generally, the exams or tests or quizzes are not the s...
[02:45:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:MOOCS - 06Helping Students Stick with MOOCs - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:45:53] <exec> 08└─The stakes are lower: someone who just looks at a few videos need not take any of the instructor's or classmates' attention, and needn't cause any expense other than bandwidth. That person may learn something without completing the course. If such "shallow draughts intoxicate the brain" it needn't b...
[02:45:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:MOOCS - 06Helping Students Stick with MOOCs - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:45:55] <exec> 08└─What may be a better idea is to emphasize and retool MOOCS as industry certifications rather than classes. Maybe raise the stakes a little, maybe jack up the costs, whatever -- but I'm sure none of you will like that idea.
[02:45:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02The secret is discipline - 06Helping Students Stick with MOOCs - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:57] <exec> 08└─The secret is discipline and willpower. If you stick with it, MOOCs will work for you unless you really, really cannot handle impersonal learning. However, it's really easy to slack when there's no professor or permanent record breathing down your back. If the professor kept bugging you when you sta...
[02:46:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The contentious question of when dogs appeared. - 06DNA Study Says Dog First Appeared in Central Asia - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:46:06] <exec> 08└─Whoop. Whoo-whoo-whoo-whoop.
[02:46:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:spider drones - 06IARPA’s New Director Wants You to Surprise Him - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:46:21] <exec> 08└─You can rest assured that robotic flies, dragonflies, beetles, and quite possibly spiders and worm-oids are all in the pipeline as we speak.
[02:46:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lunix Nutcase [3913] (Score:2) 02Re:The historical record says no - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:46:56] <exec> 08└─You falsely assume those 6000 apps work flawlessly. That isn't even remotely the case.
[02:46:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The historical record says no - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:46:58] <exec> 08└─Nothing I've ever ran through wine in the past 5 years worked properly out of the box except for really barebones self written programs, those things that do work will suffer from various anomalies that wont manifest themselves immediately.
[02:47:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:its over - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:47:11] <exec> 08└─People always bring up Office, games, Adobe or AudoDesk software, but Windows has a software stack that goes into the millions perhaps even billions - and each single of those programs could be a show stopper for somebody wishing to migrate.
[02:47:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:its over - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:47:12] <exec> 08└─That's like people have been saying Apple is a bubble stock, bubble company for 10 years. Some wishful thinking in there.
[02:47:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes - 06512-bit RSA Keys Cracked in Four Hours for only $75 - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:47:42] <exec> 08└─And really, for some of the connections, it 512 is fine. How many bits of encryption do you need to get a map and print it out or check webmail for something you believe is disposal? The right tool for the right job.
[02:47:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes - 06512-bit RSA Keys Cracked in Four Hours for only $75 - 562 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:47:43] <exec> 08└─Will it cost you less to you use weaker encryption where you think it might not matter? I'd say it will cost you more to bother to even make that kind of decision in the first place than the relatively minuscule amount extra of computing power it would cost to use strong(er) encryption. And if you m...
[02:47:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:completely broken? - 06512-bit RSA Keys Cracked in Four Hours for only $75 - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:47:49] <exec> 08└─No, it's four hours, one time, to compromise every single user of that site, forever, until the site makes and installs a new certificate. I think that qualifies as "completely broken".
[02:47:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:So how can I tell if a server is secure? - 06512-bit RSA Keys Cracked in Four Hours for only $75 - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:47:55] <exec> 08└─I see "128 bit keys" there, which is just a tad smaller than 512. However, I do not know how exactly Firefox displays the info, nor am I a cryptography expert.
[02:48:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:my vote: Airplane tickets and hotel room - 06SN Financial "Stretch Goal" 2015 - 1082 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:48:15] <exec> 08└─If they haven't already been raided by the law, then they're not gonna be anytime soon. I am in agreement that the original investments should be re-compensated. Raising the morale of the staff will no-doubt have a trickle-down effect and provide motivation for more quickly implement new features. I...
[02:48:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03fleg [128] (Score:2) 02Re:Combo pack - 06SN Financial "Stretch Goal" 2015 - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:48:23] <exec> 08└─i like this.
[02:51:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03theluggage [1797] 02Re:complete lack of wisdom - 06First Report of Gaping Security Flaws in Internet of Things Device - 1292 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:51:02] <exec> 08└─Considering how perfectly this product fills a much-needed gap in the market, its no real surprise that someone monumentally stupid enough to design such a pointless device should also fail at the much more demanding job of internet security. I mean, even if the device was some sort of automated tea...
[02:51:51] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Vanderhoth [61] 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 2261 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:51:51] <exec> 08└─I'm definitely pretty far left of center, but way to prove my point. I disagree, think SPLC shouldn't be the end all be all of "moral authority", get labeled as a right-wing. Maybe I would vote conservative if the CPC wasn't run by an anti-science nut case that's handed our country over to private i...
[02:51:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 841 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:51:57] <exec> 08└─"They spend their own money keeping tabs on groups that the government won't keep tabs on." That is inaccurate. SPLC is a professional fund raising organization - they don't spend "their own money". They spend money collected from gullible people. In fact, they can be branded as "fraudulent" because...
[02:51:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:''ultra-left politics (and I'm a liberal)'' - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:52:00] <exec> 08└─what's gotten The Working Class into a serious bind over the last several decades. [googleusercontent.com] -- gewg_
[02:52:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:52:10] <exec> 08└─Racism and Xenophobia IS NOT FREE SPEECH Idiot
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[03:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Thomas Jefferson - 06What Thomas Jefferson's Hidden Lab Teaches About US Science Education - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:45:34] <exec> 08└─Probably not one of the first few folks you'd think of, when coming up with good examples of The Peter Principle in action.
[03:45:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Something something something - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:45:46] <exec> 08└─> This is the first serious hack of these cards, which is why its news. Remember that this happened in 2011, EMV had a staggered roll-out in Europe that started in 2006. This is the first serious acknowledged hack. There are plenty of unexplained cases too.
[03:45:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03simonInOz [2173] (Score:1) 02Re:Something something something - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 1563 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:45:47] <exec> 08└─As an ex-bank employee I might be able to offer some balance. It's a balance of risk against convenience. Originally, the 4 digit PIN was determined by asking someone (could it have been the developer's partner?) how many digits they thought they could remember - and thus we have 4. Not very scienti...
[03:45:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Thank god for locaion tracking and data retention. - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:45:48] <exec> 08└─It's good to know that well after the fact, without need for any witnesses, real-time recording, or stingray devices, as long as we know that a person was in certain approximate known locations at certain known times, we can use the fact that they had their cell phone on to unambiguously identify th...
[03:45:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Thank god for locaion tracking and data retenti - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:45:50] <exec> 08└─The police obtained the international mobile subscriber identity (IMSI) numbers present at the locations where the cards were used and at the times they were used, and then they correlated those IMSI numbers to SIM cards.
[03:45:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02The exploit is pretty obvious - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 1124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:45:52] <exec> 08└─That is a pretty obvious exploit. The three phases, card authentication, cardholder verification, and then transaction authorization are treated as independent instead of dependent which is how the exploit worked, pass the first and last through to the real chip while handling the cardholder verific...
[03:45:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The exploit is pretty obvious - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:45:54] <exec> 08└─"And no, putting this stuff in phones is dumb. Phones have hundreds of apps, multi-gigabyte operating systems developed in the fastest 'Agile' process possible and will never be close to as secure as what can be embedded into ROM on a card." Most CPUs in smartphones have a "secure mode" that is not...
[03:46:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:MOOCS - 06Helping Students Stick with MOOCs - 1123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:46:03] <exec> 08└─I'm not so sure about that. The theory and lectures, sure. The labs, not so much. I doubt most bio students could afford their own GC/MS. I doubt most Med Students could afford a human corpse shipped to their doorstep or a modern X-ray scanner, legally if not financially. Chemistry/Chemical engineer...
[03:46:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:MOOCS - 06Helping Students Stick with MOOCs - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:46:05] <exec> 08└─The other students are a huge part of it. But, so is just the act of having to block out a certain piece of your day to go to school. Just doing that means that it's on your radar and it's harder to forget you're even in class.
[03:46:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:The secret is discipline - 06Helping Students Stick with MOOCs - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:46:08] <exec> 08└─If the professor kept bugging you when you start slacking, I'm sure the attrition rate would drop significantly, but the M in MOOC makes that impossible.
[03:46:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:The secret is discipline - 06Helping Students Stick with MOOCs - 608 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:46:10] <exec> 08└─I don't think that's entirely it. I think a lot of it comes down to the fact that it's online and in a lot of those classes, you don't really get to interact with the other students very much. When I was in college we spent a ton of time talking with each other about the course content. In fact, we...
[03:46:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Knowledge or Certification - 06Helping Students Stick with MOOCs - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:46:11] <exec> 08└─Depends on what one needs. Do you want to be certified by a for pay institution, or do you actually want knowledge about a specific field? If you need certification then none of the MOOCs are going to work as well as a degree from the likes of MIT or CalTech. If one only needs knowledge, then Khan A...
[03:46:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Debate - 06DNA Study Says Dog First Appeared in Central Asia - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:46:19] <exec> 08└─There is also some question of whether dogs evolved from wolves or did they both evolve from some common ancestor. At any rate, there is some indication that canine/human interaction was much earlier: http://www.animalpeoplenews.org [animalpe...
[03:46:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:I have a good idea - 06IARPA’s New Director Wants You to Surprise Him - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:46:35] <exec> 08└─invests in high-risk, high-payoff research to solve problems faced by the U.S. intelligence community.
[03:47:00] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 723 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:47:00] <exec> 08└─Last I heard, a lot of that expensive specialized industrial software doesn't work under Windows 10, but these machines, when connected to the internet, update to Windows 10 anyway, breaking the industrial software on 6-figure machines. So basically you don't have a choice: you have to use some old...
[03:47:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:47:02] <exec> 08└─PLC programming software for Automationdirect PLC's. Directsoft 5, Click and Productivity3000 controllers all have Windows only software.
[03:47:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03jmorris [4844] 02The historical record says no - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 1295 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:47:07] <exec> 08└─Lets look to the history books for similar projects. DOSEmu finally shipped a 1.0 in exactly one RedHat Linux (Pre RHEL/Fedora) release before being dropped as obsolete. WINE can run a few games but few more serious applications reliably after about two decades of effort. ReactOS leverages Wine for...
[03:47:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:The historical record says no - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 894 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:47:18] <exec> 08└─You missed the point. If all purchasing is based on a Win32 Standard that Microsoft's product is only one compliant implementation of, you no longer have to run 'Windows applications' on Microsoft Windows. Whether you actually move all OS installs to a competing product doesn't change that reality,...
[03:47:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:its over - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:47:29] <exec> 08└─Wow, seriously, they're handing out mod points to retards now, apparently.
[03:47:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:its over - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 757 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:47:32] <exec> 08└─Those ones get listed because you have to be able to use the save files from one installation on another version. It's the same reason why people keep updating those programs even though the new features may not be necessary. If you don't update, then the files might not be completely compatible wit...
[03:48:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:my vote: Airplane tickets and hotel room - 06SN Financial "Stretch Goal" 2015 - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:48:34] <exec> 08└─Kit Kat. Halloween sized bars are almost the exact same size as the icon for this site. That said, I feel compelled to encourage you to just buy the shirt.
[03:48:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:my vote: Airplane tickets and hotel room - 06SN Financial "Stretch Goal" 2015 - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:48:37] <exec> 08└─I hope MDC brings the drugs. I want whatever he's on.
[03:49:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:2) 02"sic" was needed - 06When a Dev Dies, Their Apps Should Live On - 783 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:49:43] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sic [wikipedia.org]: The Latin adverb sic ("thus"; in full: sic erat scriptum, "thus was it written") inserted after a quoted word or passage, indicates that the quoted matter has been transcribed exactly as found in the source text, complete with any erroneous or archa...
[03:50:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03simonInOz [2173] (Score:1) 02Re:Really? - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 463 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:50:30] <exec> 08└─I recall a discussion between Michael Dell and the head of the USA Army (or near offer), and they complained that Dell would only sell them Dell computers at a higher than retail price- perhaps it was $2500. Ok, said Michael. I offer to sell you a Dell laptop for $2000. I accept, said the military p...
[03:51:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nothing really new... - 06Warming Opens Famed Northwest Passage to Navigation - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:51:03] <exec> 08└─There are solar insolation tables all over for various places. Solar panel companies and the like will probably have the data for your area. Another is to do the math yourself using nearby installations on sites like http://pvoutput.org [pvoutput.org] or using climate and weather data from NOAA and...
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[04:45:39] <exec> 08└─What does it teach?
[04:45:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Something something something - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:45:51] <exec> 08└─The number one goal of credit cards is to replace cash. The more complicated they make it to use the cards, the less likely they are to achieve that goal.
[04:45:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Something something something - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:45:52] <exec> 08└─Too late.
[04:46:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:The exploit is pretty obvious - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 1115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:46:00] <exec> 08└─Who cares? There is far too much running on a phone. Who can assure the path between the merchant terminal and the secure chip, between the secure chip and what displays on the screen, etc? Yes I know that my 2012 vintage phone has a poorly documented direct connection between the SIM and the NFC ha...
[04:46:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Jedi Mind Trick Hand Wave - 06Helping Students Stick with MOOCs - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:46:19] <exec> 08└─There are no alumni of MOOCs. These are not the college credits you are looking for.
[04:46:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:I have a good idea - 06IARPA’s New Director Wants You to Surprise Him - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:46:48] <exec> 08└─Number one: Lose the stupid grey suit. Number two: Realize that the enemy of the republic is the military/industrial complex. Number three: The people are not the enemy. Number four: Act accordingly.
[04:47:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:47:13] <exec> 08└─Try this: http://cnc-specialty-store.com [cnc-specialty-store.com] There's a fair demand for it for CNC machines. No idea about using it from a VM though.
[04:47:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 521 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:47:17] <exec> 08└─I can confirm the issue with USB-RS232 converters (FTDI cables and virtualbox in my case). The delay between characters is much longer and irregular, amongst other subtleties. Difference is I have a Windows host and linux guest. Anyway what I did to solve this once and for all is use socat in the gu...
[04:47:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''just that one app'' - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:47:22] <exec> 08└─Have you tried to contact other folks who use that app? Perhaps the lot of you could form a cooperative/user group. Once organized, you might contact the WINE|ReactOS developers and mention to them that you've put a bounty [google.com] on getting that app running without any MICROS~1 code. -- gewg_
[04:47:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02How is parent ''Flamebait''? - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:47:29] <exec> 08└─Self-deprecating? Yes. Slothful and willing to admit it? Yes? Informative about the incompleteness of the database? Yes. Flamebait? I don't get it. -- gewg_
[04:49:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Another problem solved by Open source... - 06When a Dev Dies, Their Apps Should Live On - 2325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:49:44] <exec> 08└─Again you are arguing an "is ought" problem, here is the Wikipedia link [wikipedia.org]. You are arguing that because the code IS available it OUGHT to be able to port without accepting the rotting elephant in the room which is the vast majority of that code is worthless because it was written with...
[04:50:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03HiThere [866] 02You're being TOO cynical. - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 741 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:50:59] <exec> 08└─I used to work for an organization that bought their computers from off the GSA list, and we got prices much (well, somewhat) better than list. Of course, we couldn't buy things on sale, and the list only covered some things. And if we weren't buying more than 50(?) the paperwork was so bad it wasn'...
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[07:53:17] <exec> 08└─A 2-4 star review from someone verified to have purchased the product could be real. If they start faking those...
[07:53:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Dead giveaway - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:53:18] <exec> 08└─Instead of expected item, box contained bobcat. Would not buy again. Mandatory and obligatory and not at all a bobcat linK: http://xkcd.com [xkcd.com] Deal with it, those of you who still use Lynx.
[07:53:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03acharax [4264] (Score:3, Insightful) 02I only read negative reviews - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 998 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:53:19] <exec> 08└─I found positive reviews to be misleading and inaccurate even if they're not blatantly fake. It's not possible to tell how long after a purchase these reviews were posted, it could take years to see if something truly performs according to expectations - all these positive reviews tell me is that it...
[07:53:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Air Force? - 06Bright Blue PHOLEDs Almost Ready for TV - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:53:28] <exec> 08└─The story gave no clue how or why the air force would be involved in blue led research. But the story did mention these LEDs have a severe longevity problem.
[07:53:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Adamsjas [4507] (Score:2) 02Re:So... - 06What Thomas Jefferson's Hidden Lab Teaches About US Science Education - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:39] <exec> 08└─Not nearly as much as the story would like to have you believe. They built a lab in the only place they had, and outgrew it fairly quickly, and decided to brick it over in the first remodel. It wasn't much of a lab, even by standards of the day, but it was probably fairly advanced for that part of t...
[07:53:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Thank god for locaion tracking and data retenti - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:56] <exec> 08└─Finding those one or two that phones that appeared at more than one fraud site would take require a great deal of luck.
[07:53:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Thank god for locaion tracking and data retenti - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:53:57] <exec> 08└─I've never seen any evidence of any cell company marketing me or to me based on which tower I was connected to. I Wager you haven't either. Police seem to use this data far more than marketeers.
[07:54:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:The exploit is pretty obvious - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:02] <exec> 08└─I'm almost 100% RMS Pure but this is no place for Free Software.
[07:54:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:The exploit is pretty obvious - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 525 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:04] <exec> 08└─Obvious exploit? Steal a dozen high limit credit cards with nobody knowing about it? Weld a super thin chip on top of an existing chip and still have it fit in a reader? And do this so quickly on a stolen card that you can get that card out in the field before the rightful owner notices that it is m...
[07:54:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The exploit is pretty obvious - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:06] <exec> 08└─He means the protocol error. He's right there. Still from a tech point this a very fine hack. Funny thing is: they 'only' stole 600.000 euro. My guess is the skills shown by whoever created this are worth more in gainful employment over a few years without any of the risks of crime.
[07:54:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The secret is discipline - 06Helping Students Stick with MOOCs - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:54:21] <exec> 08└─However, it's really easy to slack when there's no professor or permanent record breathing down your back.
[07:54:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02streets or fields - 06DNA Study Says Dog First Appeared in Central Asia - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:54:37] <exec> 08└─"wandered freely in the streets or fields" -- um, 15000 years ago, I don't think there was a lot of what you could call streets, and definitely no fields around. Hunters and gatherers everywhere.
[07:55:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 765 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:12] <exec> 08└─What software? How about CAD packages, specialized industrial software, ERP, custom application etc. Here is my example of Windows only software that I need for my job: PLC programming software for Automationdirect PLC's. Directsoft 5, Click and Productivity3000 controllers all have Windows only sof...
[07:55:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:its over - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:50] <exec> 08└─Indeed. I have 20 years of experience driving Mastercam. That $20k seat of software determines the OS and hardware requirements, and it only runs on Windows.
[07:56:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:So how can I tell if a server is secure? - 06512-bit RSA Keys Cracked in Four Hours for only $75 - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:25] <exec> 08└─How do you explain the "ECDHE"? ECDHE = Elliptic Curve Diffie-Hellman Exchange
[07:56:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrcoolbp [68] (Score:2) 02Re:my vote: Airplane tickets and hotel room - 06SN Financial "Stretch Goal" 2015 - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:56:51] <exec> 08└─We spoke briefly in IRC today but I just wanted to comment that the money will not go to waste, even if it sits in a bank for a few months. I have taken note of your suggestions and will present them when we look at how it is best spent/saved, and we do appreciate the input.
[07:57:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03throwaway28 [5181] (Score:1) 02Dm-crypt - 06Western Digital Acquires SanDisk, MyPassport 256-bit AES Encryption "Useless" - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:57:15] <exec> 08└─FYI, an easy way to get encrypted block devices on linux, is echo "0 1024000000 crypt aes-cbc-essiv:md5 d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e 0 /dev/sdc 0" | dmsetup create encrypted mount /dev/mapper/encrypted /mnt/encrypted
[07:59:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:I intend to bring my oven online (not kidding!) - 06First Report of Gaping Security Flaws in Internet of Things Device - 2252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:59:58] <exec> 08└─You are right about me not being experienced with ESP8266, I didn't even flash a "hello world" LED blinker yet. However, from the specs it looks unlikely the device will start doing any auto-updates of its firmware. The device [github.com] has 96kB of data RAM + 64kB of instruction RAM only (Yes, it...
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[08:53:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:I only read negative reviews - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 608 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:53:23] <exec> 08└─> I found positive reviews to be misleading and inaccurate even if they're not blatantly fake. Absolutely! I'm a beer drinker with a hobby of trying as many different beers from around the world as possible, and if I go to a multi-tap bar or a bottle shop in a foreign country, I often rely on other...
[08:53:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:I only read negative reviews - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 716 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:53:24] <exec> 08└─Given how many people seem to do something similar (raises hand) I suspect it's probably just a matter of time before the fake review pushers wise up and start thinking in terms of that old job interview chestnut "What do you consider your greatest weakness?" and post "negative" reviews that still m...
[08:53:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02The article is rubbish - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:53:26] <exec> 08└─I was reading the article as I sipped my freshly ground morning coffee, and as I read it I realised it was garbage. It was meaningless. Badly written. Not satisfying at all. It pretty much ruined my morning, and my wife's too, as I kept having to read out to her the bits of it which were worst. WOUL...
[08:53:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02name change needed - 06Bright Blue PHOLEDs Almost Ready for TV - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:53:35] <exec> 08└─Maybe systemd could put Lennart Poettering on the game grid and rename itself to pholed.
[08:53:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] 02Crime regards security as damage - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 181 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:53:54] <exec> 08└─and routes around it. Consider the original meaning of the Underwriter's Laboratoratories rating: it was how many hours an experienced safecracker would require to bust open a safe.
[08:54:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Something something something - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 494 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:54:02] <exec> 08└─Wrong. The only way that 4 digit PINs are weak makes longer ones weak too - namely leakage by shoulder-surfing or skimmer. This particular fraud, which was the most sophisticated of its type known, could have been avoided if staff at the PoS handled and inspected the card before they inserted it int...
[08:54:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Scratchers? - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:54:13] <exec> 08└─carrying a large number of cigarette packs and scratchers
[08:55:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zappy [4210] (Score:1) 02Re:The historical record says no - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 351 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:55:43] <exec> 08└─It's a LOT worse than that. If you select Platinum rating and limit it to the last few versions of wine you get 115 applications of which 85 are in the Games category. So while I applaud the effort, and having ran some applications with some level of success in Wine myself it is nowhere near a u...
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[08:58:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03korger [4465] (Score:1) 02Obligatory xkcd - 06When a Dev Dies, Their Apps Should Live On - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:58:18] <exec> 08└─https://xkcd.com/686/ [xkcd.com]
[08:59:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Admiral Byrd - 06Warming Opens Famed Northwest Passage to Navigation - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:59:25] <exec> 08└─Is Admiral Byrd that Eagle Muppet? Just asking. Sounds the same.
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[09:53:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:Dead giveaway - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:53:21] <exec> 08└─Link contained bobcat. Would not read again.
[09:53:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03KritonK [465] (Score:2) 02Re:I only read negative reviews - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:53:25] <exec> 08└─Some have already gotten wise. A store, from which I often buy stuff, has a reviews section for each product, which they either edit heavily, erasing bad reviews, or they populate using fake reviews. Each review has a pros and cons section. The cons section is either empty or contains trivialities,...
[09:53:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:The article is rubbish - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:53:27] <exec> 08└─Karma bonus? I can trust this guy!
[09:53:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheSage [133] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:The article review is rubbish - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:53:29] <exec> 08└─I ordered the fake negative review from the parent. The review used an unconvincing anecdote with badly invented details. Way too easy to spot as a fake review. I was quite angered when I read it on my way to work, and was nearly run over by a speeding taxi whose driver was looking at his phone (pro...
[09:53:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03quadrox [315] (Score:2) 02Re:The article review is rubbish - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:53:31] <exec> 08└─I ordered the above review of the review from parent. Excellent service - the review appeared quite timely and used an account with enough karma and upmods to have a decent moderation score for visibility, although this could clearly be improved further. All in all though I am extremely happy about...
[09:53:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:2) 02Re:So... - 06What Thomas Jefferson's Hidden Lab Teaches About US Science Education - 913 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:53:50] <exec> 08└─It is maybe the oldest example found of students actually making *practical* experiments as part of their chemistry studies, instead of only sitting and listening to theoretical stuff. After all, they found a hearth and four workbenches, not only one. Look at the time frame: It is believed that the...
[09:53:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:3, Touché) 02The answer is "nothing" - 06What Thomas Jefferson's Hidden Lab Teaches About US Science Education - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:53:51] <exec> 08└─What Thomas Jefferson's Hidden Lab Teaches About US Science Education
[09:54:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Something something something - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 501 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:54:07] <exec> 08└─If I understand things correctly, there's absolutely no reason why these cards can't be given up to 8 digit PINs. They're the same javacards used for everything. Your 50% stat is scary, and as far as I can tell, true, but explainable. 19xx is very popular with xx>~50 - birth years, as are 10yy, 11yy...
[09:54:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Re:Something something something - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:54:09] <exec> 08└─Even worse, this site has your PIN code too: http://www.positiveatheism.org [positiveatheism.org]
[09:54:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Thank god for locaion tracking and data retenti - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:54:15] <exec> 08└─cigarette packs & scratchers: low weight/low volume, high value (and legal) items. Scratchers being those "gambling notes" you buy at the newsstands and so on. Scratch to win...
[09:55:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Surprise - 06IARPA’s New Director Wants You to Surprise Him - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:55:13] <exec> 08└─IARPA’s New Director Wants You to Surprise Him
[09:55:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02No - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 3 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:55:23] <exec> 08└─n/t
[09:55:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03massa [5547] (Score:1) 02I disagree. Strongly. - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:55:24] <exec> 08└─I do think that if privacy-minded people invest some (not a lot) of effort in ReactOS, they can make it run all the legacy stuff (that is the really important I-have-to-have-windows installed, IMHO): internal company software developed in VB, Delphi, etc. The problem I see is that a lot of that kind...
[09:55:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score:2) 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 385 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:55:40] <exec> 08└─I find that Siemens Step7/TIA, Rockwell Studio 5000, and Mitsubishi GX Developer (roughly 90% of the PLC's in the world) all run very nicely under VMware on a Debian box. Yeah, it's a pain having multiple vm's to support client version and native OS requirements, but it works just fine. Same goes fo...
[09:58:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Another problem solved by Open source... - 06When a Dev Dies, Their Apps Should Live On - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:58:09] <exec> 08└─Do you have a link to support this? Everything I can find on the Apple site says that, if you have a $99/year license, XCode will allow you to sign apps to run on 100 devices. You can also pay for a (more expensive) corporate license that will let you install multiple apps on 500 devices. I can't fi...
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[10:53:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fool! - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:53:35] <exec> 08└─Only chumps RTFA.
[10:53:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Air Force? - 06Bright Blue PHOLEDs Almost Ready for TV - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:53:44] <exec> 08└─It's simple. The air force does their work in the air. The sky is made out of air. The sky is blue. Hence, blue LEDs. Q.E.D.
[10:54:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Noldir [1216] (Score:1) 02Re:Something something something - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:54:18] <exec> 08└─In the Netherlands at least the 4 digit pin is plenty secure: after three failed tries your card get's blocked and you have to go to the bank with and ID to get it unblocked again. I don't know what the chances are on correctly guessing the PIN but they're low enough to be secure enough.
[10:54:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score:1) 02Re:The exploit is pretty obvious - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 1189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:54:30] <exec> 08└─Steal a dozen high limit credit cards with nobody knowing about it? This is quite possible. Any competent pick-pocket can steal a wallet without you knowing about it. A good pick-pocket can put it back without you knowing. So (1) borrow* wallet (2) remove the least-used card from the selection of ca...
[10:54:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Scratchers? - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:54:32] <exec> 08└─Hope this helps... https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org]
[10:54:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03caffeinated bacon [4151] (Score:1) 02Re:Scratchers? - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:54:34] <exec> 08└─You know when you have an itch in the middle of your back, and you need something like a miniature rake to reach it? That's a scratcher or a back scratcher. You generally only need one though, so she probably had a stack of these http://www.calottery.com [calotter...
[10:55:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02not conclusive - 06DNA Study Says Dog First Appeared in Central Asia - 788 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:55:08] <exec> 08└─They may have found the geographical region where there's been the least evolutionary pressure for change. This would be probably where there's not been too much human influence, so a low human population density, and also somewhere where there's a large area between physical borders within which th...
[10:55:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:55:52] <exec> 08└─and you have to keep your machine off the network.
[10:55:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score:2) 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 491 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:55:54] <exec> 08└─Nice for a small mom-n-pop shop maybe, but I can absolutely guarantee that an automotive manufacturer or aerospace company is not going to scrap millions of dollars of installed systems to let a guerrilla controls engineer retrofit their latest raspberry pi or arduino concoction into all their produ...
[10:56:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:The historical record says no - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 662 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:56:11] <exec> 08└─> Office, Photoshop, etc. None of those work. That's weird. How come my g/f's been using MS Office in Wine (Crossover Office's version) for nearly a decade. Every day. As $DAYJOB, in fact. OK, she's running an old version of Office, but she works in fields where the documents *are* the product (acad...
[10:57:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Paypal sucks - 06SN Financial "Stretch Goal" 2015 - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:57:20] <exec> 08└─Quite welcome. As an offhand guestimate, I expect I'll be done coding it up for dev sometime next week. Then it's on to martyb who shall use his own credit card and moneys to thoroughly test it. Go-live date, well we're guessing "December or early January" for the next site upgrade, of which this wi...
[10:57:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:2) 02Credit Card-based Subscriptions - 06SN Financial "Stretch Goal" 2015 - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:57:22] <exec> 08└─Quite welcome. As an offhand guestimate, I expect I'll be done coding it up for dev sometime next week. Then it's on to martyb who shall use his own credit card and moneys to thoroughly test it. Go-live date, well we're guessing "December or early January" for the next site upgrade, of which this wi...
[11:00:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:a question for deniers - 06Warming Opens Famed Northwest Passage to Navigation - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:00:16] <exec> 08└─there are fossils of tropical plants in the arctic
[11:01:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:01:05] <exec> 08└─And the FBI would be responsible for violating your rights. Like Anal said, "Sounds like you're a fan of blaming someone for other people's actions."
[11:01:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:01:26] <exec> 08└─Still waiting to see those examples Francis asked for.
[11:01:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:01:41] <exec> 08└─Its just a bunch of irrational morons desperately looking for anything to support their pre-defined conclusions and beliefs. There will never be any smoking guns because no such thing exists outside of their heads, and in their heads literally everything the group they hate does is a smoking gun. Yo...
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[11:53:17] <exec> 08└─The availability of Python plus an offline browser-based (== "cross-platform") code editor breaks through the TouchDevelop lock-in and brings the micro:bit more in-line with what tinkerers are expecting from the RasPi workflow. Given that this thingy is to be handed out to millions of kids, this is...
[11:53:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I only read negative reviews - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:53:39] <exec> 08└─I rate and review on Amazon fairly. Most are positive reviews but a couple negative reviews kept getting rejected. Yes, it was a verified purchase. One of them, after finally getting accepted after heavy editing, was soon redacted. Who redacted it? Amazon? The seller? It seems like Amazon is biased...
[11:53:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:The article review is rubbish - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:53:44] <exec> 08└─I parsed the entire thread, I kinda expected someone to fake a fake review in the comments but overall the reading experience has been pleasant.
[11:53:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The article review is rubbish - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:53:46] <exec> 08└─I rate this 5 stars. I recommended it to all my friends and family. It even has multiple uses besides what it's used for. For instance, I ran out of toilet paper after eating a few dozen black licorice candies, resulting in explosive decompression of my one-way bung valve, and these excellent review...
[11:53:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Funny - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 525 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:53:49] <exec> 08└─Funny....Amazon suing for fake online reviews, but censors legit negative reviews for certain companies and products. Anecdote: I was able to leave a negative review of the Dell Venue Pro 7840 tablet (took forever to get Lolipop, will never get Marshmallow, wouldn't let you use the SD card for anyth...
[11:54:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:2) 02Re:Something something something - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:54:31] <exec> 08└─4 is not the limit. My girlfriend has ordinary Italian credit and debit cards. They have 6 or sometimes 8 digit PINs and work in other European and UK ATM's and chip-and-PIN machines too. Nobody ever said "You can only use four with this technology". They've stuck with four because you what you know...
[11:54:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:2) 02Re:Scratchers? - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:54:47] <exec> 08└─ScratchCARDS in the UK.
[11:56:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 666 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:56:08] <exec> 08└─I certainly have been looking at alternatives. One of them is an industrial strength Arduino based PLC. I'm proficient with C and there are ladder to C compilers/IDE's for Arduino and other C applications. But how long will they be making these? Can I still buy a replacement CPU in 5/10/15/20 years?...
[11:56:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:56:11] <exec> 08└─Get a PC with a real serial port and you can use the COM port in a VM without hassles. All it takes is a serial card in a desktop, really.
[11:56:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:56:13] <exec> 08└─Most of that work is field work. So laptops for me. Though, my older Lenovo has an Express card port.
[11:56:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:56:15] <exec> 08└─If it's a PCI connectivity ExpressCard (not USB -- expresscards can have PCI and USB data lines), that should work fine. Hopefully someone's made a PCI serial expresscard to get around USB RS232 issues.
[12:01:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Vanderhoth [61] (Score:2) 02Re:''ultra-left politics (and I'm a liberal)'' - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:01:48] <exec> 08└─According to the political compass, which I've done previous to this discussion, I fall in between Ralph Nader and Dennis Kucinich, closer to Nader a little more libertarian.
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[23:01:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Soyled itself - 0646-Billion-Pixel Milky Way Photo is Largest Astronomical Image of All Time - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:45] <exec> 08└─Down already? Cool!
[23:01:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Soyled itself - 0646-Billion-Pixel Milky Way Photo is Largest Astronomical Image of All Time - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:46] <exec> 08└─Damn. I wanted to read the EXIF header on that picture.
[23:01:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Soyled itself - 0646-Billion-Pixel Milky Way Photo is Largest Astronomical Image of All Time - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:47] <exec> 08└─Nah, I stuck my 46 billion atom cock in its asshole.
[23:01:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Soyled itself - 0646-Billion-Pixel Milky Way Photo is Largest Astronomical Image of All Time - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:49] <exec> 08└─Erm . . . did you forget how small atoms are ? That size cock, is only 0.00004 inches long.
[23:01:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02Re:Soyled itself - 0646-Billion-Pixel Milky Way Photo is Largest Astronomical Image of All Time - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:51] <exec> 08└─Nah, I stuck my 46 billion atom cock in its asshole.
[23:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Dr. Cannibal - 06Vanishing Haystacks: MIT's Data Science Machine & Deep Feature Synthesis - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:59] <exec> 08└─You mean all my k in student debt to get a research phd is wasted by some shit research phd?
[23:02:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02lame - 06Vanishing Haystacks: MIT's Data Science Machine & Deep Feature Synthesis - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:02:01] <exec> 08└─Also. Not made open source. No code. Just propaganda for a product to sell, by MIT.
[23:02:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Wow, Soylent clickbait - 06Vanishing Haystacks: MIT's Data Science Machine & Deep Feature Synthesis - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:02:02] <exec> 08└─Nice dropping of Snowden's name in the very first sentence. Before the first verb even! I'm working on my own submission. I won't give it away yet, but I'm working in a hyperlink with "What Edward Snowden doesn't want you to know!"
[23:02:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wow, Soylent clickbait - 06Vanishing Haystacks: MIT's Data Science Machine & Deep Feature Synthesis - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:04] <exec> 08└─Yeah we get it. Your job is toast.
[23:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wow, Soylent clickbait - 06Vanishing Haystacks: MIT's Data Science Machine & Deep Feature Synthesis - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:06] <exec> 08└─I'm working on my own submission. I won't give it away yet, but I'm working in a hyperlink with "What Edward Snowden doesn't want you to know!"
[23:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wow, Soylent clickbait - 06Vanishing Haystacks: MIT's Data Science Machine & Deep Feature Synthesis - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:07] <exec> 08└─And "One Simple Trick!"
[23:02:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Hey IARPA guys... - 06Vanishing Haystacks: MIT's Data Science Machine & Deep Feature Synthesis - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:02:09] <exec> 08└─So can't we send those Iarpa guys [soylentnews.org] to these guys ? They sound like they were made for each other.
[23:02:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Hope and change - 06Apple and Dropbox Say They’re Against a Key Cybersecurity Bill - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:02:14] <exec> 08└─How dare they! Obama is bringing us Hope and Change. He's the best president ever.
[23:02:15] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Gravis [4596] 02not cybersecurity, cybersnooping - 06Apple and Dropbox Say They’re Against a Key Cybersecurity Bill - 144 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:02:16] <exec> 08└─there is a big difference between security and snooping. security protects you from other people. snooping ensures you are vulnerable to attack.
[23:02:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:not cybersecurity, cybersnooping - 06Apple and Dropbox Say They’re Against a Key Cybersecurity Bill - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:18] <exec> 08└─They've been peddling that "Choose privacy or security!" story for so long that now they just assume that security is synonymous with violating your privacy. Personal insecurity is personal security. Freedom is slavery. War is peace.
[23:02:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilPapa [2366] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:not cybersecurity, cybersnooping - 06Apple and Dropbox Say They’re Against a Key Cybersecurity Bill - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:20] <exec> 08└─Yes. It's gotten to the point that whenever you see government talking about "cybersecurity", you should just substitute the word, "surveillance". The whole thing is so transparent, in the most opaque way possible.
[23:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Re:not cybersecurity, cybersnooping - 06Apple and Dropbox Say They’re Against a Key Cybersecurity Bill - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:21] <exec> 08└─But Obama was gonna change all that. bwahahahahahahahahahahaha! Stupid fucking liberals.
[23:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:0, Offtopic) 02Re:not cybersecurity, cybersnooping - 06Apple and Dropbox Say They’re Against a Key Cybersecurity Bill - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:24] <exec> 08└─Because the GOP candidates that were explicitly promising this sort of bullshit were less likely to do this?
[23:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:not cybersecurity, cybersnooping - 06Apple and Dropbox Say They’re Against a Key Cybersecurity Bill - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:25] <exec> 08└─Which candidates were those exactly? And were they voted in as president on a "hope and change" platform? Oh, and FYI, I would never vote for a GOP candidate. Sorry to burst your bubble their liberal boy.
[23:02:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:not cybersecurity, cybersnooping - 06Apple and Dropbox Say They’re Against a Key Cybersecurity Bill - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:27] <exec> 08└─FYI, I'm not liberal, I'm just not a right-wing nutjob. Bottom line here is that the choice is basically what the GOP offers or what the Democrats offer. The last candidate that wasn't from one of those parties to manage more than 10% of the popular vote was H. Ross Perot. And he just barely got mor...
[23:02:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:not cybersecurity, cybersnooping - 06Apple and Dropbox Say They’re Against a Key Cybersecurity Bill - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:29] <exec> 08└─FYI, I'm not liberal, I'm just not a right-wing nutjob.
[23:02:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tramii [920] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:not cybersecurity, cybersnooping - 06Apple and Dropbox Say They’re Against a Key Cybersecurity Bill - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:31] <exec> 08└─Voting for somebody else is basically just a cop out.
[23:02:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lunix Nutcase [3913] (Score:2) 02Re:not cybersecurity, cybersnooping - 06Apple and Dropbox Say They’re Against a Key Cybersecurity Bill - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:33] <exec> 08└─I'm no fan of either party but this claim sounds fishy. What mainstream GOP candidate (aka the winner of the presidential nomination or anyone that actually had a realistic chance at said nomination) has ever promised that?
[23:02:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:not cybersecurity, cybersnooping - 06Apple and Dropbox Say They’re Against a Key Cybersecurity Bill - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:35] <exec> 08└─President Bush did.
[23:02:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:0, Offtopic) 02Re:not cybersecurity, cybersnooping - 06Apple and Dropbox Say They’re Against a Key Cybersecurity Bill - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:36] <exec> 08└─Chicago politics. When you elect a man from a city with a long history of prominent corruption, things like the current situation are bound to happen. Take one look at Chicago [ytmnd.com] and see for yourself.
[23:02:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:1, Flamebait) 02Re:not cybersecurity, cybersnooping - 06Apple and Dropbox Say They’re Against a Key Cybersecurity Bill - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:39] <exec> 08└─Hey, you're either WITH US, or agin us, Pardner. --Retarded Bush, not Desert Storm Bush.
[23:02:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02No Brainer... - 06Apple and Dropbox Say They’re Against a Key Cybersecurity Bill - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:02:41] <exec> 08└─One of its co-sponsors, Dianne Feinstein, (D-Calif.), the ranking member on the Senate Intelligence Committee [...]
[23:02:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:No Brainer... - 06Apple and Dropbox Say They’re Against a Key Cybersecurity Bill - 428 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:42] <exec> 08└─While a reasonable dig at Feinstein this is something that will have broad appeal to both parties. I'm surprises none of my congress critters have gotten behind it although since this is in the senate one of my senators won't dare take a controversial position before a vote and the other seems to li...
[23:02:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No Brainer... - 06Apple and Dropbox Say They’re Against a Key Cybersecurity Bill - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:44] <exec> 08└─I got the impression that the house version passed a few months ago.
[23:02:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:No Brainer... - 06Apple and Dropbox Say They’re Against a Key Cybersecurity Bill - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:46] <exec> 08└─I'm hoping that the last few years of revelations have inspired a little more caution. Feinstein has always been pro nanny / authoritarian state. Maybe a critical mass will form and some consciences will spring into being to slam the US into a sharp U-turn to its ideals... Or just the leaking of the...
[23:02:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No Brainer... - 06Apple and Dropbox Say They’re Against a Key Cybersecurity Bill - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:48] <exec> 08└─Maybe a critical mass will form and some consciences will spring into being to slam the US into a sharp U-turn to its ideals...
[23:02:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No Brainer... - 06Apple and Dropbox Say They’re Against a Key Cybersecurity Bill - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:49] <exec> 08└─Because you would have been for it otherwise? Why must everything be something partisan?
[23:02:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No Brainer... - 06Apple and Dropbox Say They’re Against a Key Cybersecurity Bill - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:51] <exec> 08└─I fall on the left side of the spectrum (assuming a 2D spectrum) and I dislike Feinstein with a passion. Its not partisan at all, shes an all around bad person.
[23:02:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No Brainer... - 06Apple and Dropbox Say They’re Against a Key Cybersecurity Bill - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:54] <exec> 08└─So again, why would you have been for this if Feinstein didn't support?
[23:02:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No Brainer... - 06Apple and Dropbox Say They’re Against a Key Cybersecurity Bill - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:55] <exec> 08└─Um you have an issue with reading comprehension it seems. I do not like Feinstein. If Feinstein is for something my initial reaction is to be against it. Ohh and you have an issue with getting your meaning across clearly. As far as I can tell It needs to be parsed as "Why would you have been in favo...
[23:02:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No Brainer... - 06Apple and Dropbox Say They’re Against a Key Cybersecurity Bill - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:57] <exec> 08└─I do not like Feinstein. If Feinstein is for something my initial reaction is to be against it.
[23:02:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No Brainer... - 06Apple and Dropbox Say They’re Against a Key Cybersecurity Bill - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:59] <exec> 08└─To put this another way to my first reply, why would some random person supporting or not supporting it matter over the substance of the bill? Are you saying if every politician you did like supported it that you'd have to support it? Basically, you're muddying up a legitimate discussion with someth...
[23:03:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03number11 [1170] (Score:1) 02Re:No Brainer... - 06Apple and Dropbox Say They’re Against a Key Cybersecurity Bill - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:01] <exec> 08└─why would some random person supporting or not supporting it matter over the substance of the bill?
[23:03:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:2) 02I hope they have a gameplan - 06Apple and Dropbox Say They’re Against a Key Cybersecurity Bill - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:02] <exec> 08└─I hope they have a game-plan and they will put their money where their mouth is. Otherwise this is just a "we tried our best dear customer" PR stunt.
[23:03:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:I hope they have a gameplan - 06Apple and Dropbox Say They’re Against a Key Cybersecurity Bill - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:04] <exec> 08└─This is just one more reason not to trust companies with unencrypted files. Or if you're really worried, not even trust them with the encrypted copies. Does anybody have any recommendations for something like encryptfs that works on Windows, Linux and FreeBSD?
[23:03:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:I hope they have a gameplan - 06Apple and Dropbox Say They’re Against a Key Cybersecurity Bill - 604 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:07] <exec> 08└─Both Apple [arstechnica.com] and Dropbox [gizmodo.com] retain keys to your cloud data, and hand them over fairly freely when the cops come calling. As far as I am concerned, neither one of these companies make good spokesmen for anti-CISA legislation. How serious can Congress take their advice, when...
[23:03:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Forget perpetual motion... - 06A Critical Review of Ultrasonic Power Distribution - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:08] <exec> 08└─If you can reliably charge using sound, why ultrasound? Most people live in so much ambient noise, we'd never need a power grid ever again.
[23:03:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03eapache [3822] (Score:1) 02Re:Forget perpetual motion... - 06A Critical Review of Ultrasonic Power Distribution - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:10] <exec> 08└─There's a lot more energy in ultrasound than in ambient noise. The best you could do with ambient would be trickle-charge, and even that would be slow.
[23:03:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Forget perpetual motion... - 06A Critical Review of Ultrasonic Power Distribution - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:12] <exec> 08└─They are using ultrasound at such a high volume it would make your head explode if you could hear it : ) It would be like charging your phone by by standing within 1 meter of a running jet turbine. Yeah, it would work.. but i don't think there would be many users of such a charging system. Because t...
[23:03:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Forget perpetual motion... - 06A Critical Review of Ultrasonic Power Distribution - 1306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:14] <exec> 08└─The can't hear it argument isn't convincing to many, including the Ubeam Faq (second link in TFS). For many years is sat in front of three large-ish computer monitors arranged in a curved layout in front of me, with another three serving the coder immediately beyond my monitors. The fly-back transfo...
[23:03:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Forget perpetual motion... - 06A Critical Review of Ultrasonic Power Distribution - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:15] <exec> 08└─The range at which people hear is going to vary somewhat. I'm with you, I could always tell if a TV was turned on just from that high pitched squeal that they all emitted. But, I'm not personally convinced that it was hearing in the conventional sense. It felt very much like it was bypassing parts o...
[23:03:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Beryllium Sphere (r) (5062) (Score:2) 02At a guess, beam forming - 06A Critical Review of Ultrasonic Power Distribution - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:17] <exec> 08└─Directional transmitters are smaller at shorter wavelengths.
[23:03:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Is it that crazy? - 06A Critical Review of Ultrasonic Power Distribution - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:19] <exec> 08└─Not knowing anything about the technology it certainly sounds a bit wacky. However, a quick google returns a few papers from fairly respectable peer-reviewed publications so it might not be as crazy as it sounds.
[23:03:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondoctor [2963] (Score:2) 02Re:Is it that crazy? - 06A Critical Review of Ultrasonic Power Distribution - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:20] <exec> 08└─A skim through the comments on hackaday turns up loads of "I work in acoustics and heres why this won't work" type comments. Main issues seemed to boil down to power dropping off exponentialy over distance and very high 'sound pressure levels'.
[23:03:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Is it that crazy? - 06A Critical Review of Ultrasonic Power Distribution - 620 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:22] <exec> 08└─That's the issue. Sound waves can be turned back into electricity by having them agitate a membrane with a magnet attached and inducing a current. However, sound waves follow an inverse squares drop off pattern, IIRC, and so you very quickly lose most of the energy you had to have. You can focus thi...
[23:03:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:4, Informative) 02OSHA will likely have something to say - 06A Critical Review of Ultrasonic Power Distribution - 818 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:24] <exec> 08└─Per OSHA regulations [osha.gov] for noise limits, ultrasonics are weighted below the normal level but are still considered dangerous at high volumes, as the subharmonics could be dangerous. A 40-100KHz ultrasound generator cannot exceed 145dB under any situation, and cannot exceed 115dB if it may co...
[23:03:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:OSHA will likely have something to say - 06A Critical Review of Ultrasonic Power Distribution - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:25] <exec> 08└─Actually the FAQ (second link) is far more enlightening than TFA.
[23:03:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:3, Insightful) 02The real takeaway - 06A Critical Review of Ultrasonic Power Distribution - 1141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:27] <exec> 08└─The real takeaway here is the shocking lack of science knowledge throughout the investment and business media nexus among the very people who are making multi-billion dollar investments. Their lack of basic economic theory is almost as bad and probably more dangerous. The miracle isn't that a new sc...
[23:03:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Username [4557] (Score:2) 02WHAT? - 06A Critical Review of Ultrasonic Power Distribution - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:29] <exec> 08└─A POLITICAL VIEW OF HYDROPONIC SHOWER POLLUTION?
[23:03:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pax [5056] (Score:1) 02HMMM PETS? - 06A Critical Review of Ultrasonic Power Distribution - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:31] <exec> 08└─Not my area but isn't there a chance this might send animals tits crazy?
[23:03:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:HMMM PETS? - 06A Critical Review of Ultrasonic Power Distribution - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:32] <exec> 08└─That was my thought. Dogs and cats can hear upward of 40kHz. Mice and other small mammals can go as high as 80kHz. Bats can hear upward of 115kHz and dolphins can hear upward of 160kHz. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] To me, it just unnecessary noise pollution and...
[23:03:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The real problem : Forbes - 06A Critical Review of Ultrasonic Power Distribution - 634 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:34] <exec> 08└─So far the only problem I could spot in the article is the author's exaggerated confidence in Forbes. "The problem is that uBeam's CEO, Meredith Perry, has turned the wireless power industry into a vehicle for her own self-promotion. uBeam, which has never demoed a prototype, lead Forbes to p...
[23:03:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The real problem : Forbes - 06A Critical Review of Ultrasonic Power Distribution - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:36] <exec> 08└─Is this woman the next Elon Musk?
[23:03:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:2) 02I would want this...why? - 06A Critical Review of Ultrasonic Power Distribution - 572 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:38] <exec> 08└─Sound follows the inverse square law (thanks a pantload Universe). So even if the beam of sound is highly collimated (which I'm assuming it is), it'll still spread out. That means power transmission rates will decrease with distance. Alignment will also be critical here, so turning or moving the dev...
[23:03:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I would want this...why? - 06A Critical Review of Ultrasonic Power Distribution - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:39] <exec> 08└─Sound follows the inverse square law
[23:03:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I would want this...why? - 06A Critical Review of Ultrasonic Power Distribution - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:41] <exec> 08└─You get the inverse square law even with a directional antenna. If you assume the beam is within a few arc-seconds, those few arc-seconds will cover more and more area the father away you get from the transmitter.
[23:03:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I would want this...why? - 06A Critical Review of Ultrasonic Power Distribution - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:43] <exec> 08└─Yes, but this only applies when you are in the far-field, and that can be quite a distance away before you get there for beamed transmission.
[23:03:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Why is the "problem" self-promotion? - 06A Critical Review of Ultrasonic Power Distribution - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:44] <exec> 08└─The problem is that uBeam's CEO, Meredith Perry, has turned the wireless power industry into a vehicle for her own self-promotion
[23:03:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02sonoporation - 06A Critical Review of Ultrasonic Power Distribution - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:46] <exec> 08└─If it's intense enough to cause cavitation, ultrasound can open holes in cell membranes. Molecules that couldn't ordinarily cross the membrane suddenly can. One possible result is the death of the cell. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
[23:03:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:2) 02Obligatory - 06It is Not Money Alone That Motivates Employees - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:48] <exec> 08└─The beatings will continue... until morale improves.
[23:03:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02For my money, this piece of research gets abused - 06It is Not Money Alone That Motivates Employees - 957 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:50] <exec> 08└─This isn't necessarily old news. At one end of the spectrum, if I'm making a half-million a year as a test subject for an ongoing experiment on the psychological effects of extreme torture, I'd say the money wasn't worth it. At the other end, if I'm making next to nothing but I'm relaxing in a nice...
[23:03:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:For my money, this piece of research gets abuse - 06It is Not Money Alone That Motivates Employees - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:51] <exec> 08└─edit: This isn't necessarily new news.
[23:03:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03srobert [4803] (Score:3, Informative) 02The Seven Habits Cult - 06It is Not Money Alone That Motivates Employees - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:53] <exec> 08└─"HR cost cutters take this and run with it in a cynical direction" It reminds me of the way that Stephen Covey's book "The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People" struck me as incisive before human resources people discovered it and turned it into a workplace cult.
[23:03:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:1) 02Re:The Seven Habits Cult - 06It is Not Money Alone That Motivates Employees - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:55] <exec> 08└─I tried to read that book once. It was so sweet, sickly and conceited that I didn't make it past the introduction. I've had the misfortune to work for "successful" managers that were impressed by such books. Can you summarise it in a sentence or two?
[23:03:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillAdams [1424] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Old thoughts on this - 06It is Not Money Alone That Motivates Employees - 975 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:56] <exec> 08└─>It is by no means enough that an officer of the Navy should be a capable mariner. He must be that, of course, but also a great deal more. >He should be as well a gentleman of liberal education, refined manners, punctilious courtesy, and the nicest sense of personal honor. > >He should be the soul o...
[23:03:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Old thoughts on this - 06It is Not Money Alone That Motivates Employees - 867 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:58] <exec> 08└─You heard much the same thing in the Acey-Deucey lounge, and the Chief's quarters. "It's your job to brag on your men. If your men shine, you shine. If your men look like shit, you look like shit. If you're not promoting your men, you're obviously not doing your job." "Promoting" is not to be taken...
[23:03:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Reminds me of this - 06It is Not Money Alone That Motivates Employees - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:00] <exec> 08└─"The first duty of every Starfleet officer is to the truth, whether it's scientific truth or historical truth or personal truth! It is the guiding principle on which Starfleet is based! And if you can't find it within yourself to stand up and tell the truth about what happened, you don't deserve to...
[23:04:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:5, Insightful) 02Of course - 06It is Not Money Alone That Motivates Employees - 1980 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:04:02] <exec> 08└─Sure, if you treat your employees well, they're more likely to be happy with their work environment, which will make them more likely to like their jobs, which will in turn make them more likely to make the effort to do a good job. Also, by establishing by example a cultural rule of "No Jerks!", you...
[23:04:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03termigator [4271] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Of course - 06It is Not Money Alone That Motivates Employees - 859 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:03] <exec> 08└─One thing that annoys me is the idea that everyone needs to be friends at work. Management tends to push this, which enchroaches on personal-vs-work boundaries. At work, all I expect is people to act professionally. Liking you is secondary. Don't expect me to goto work parties and other gatherings o...
[23:04:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tramii [920] (Score:2) 02Re:Of course - 06It is Not Money Alone That Motivates Employees - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:05] <exec> 08└─Don't expect me to goto work parties and other gatherings outside of work hours, that is my time.
[23:04:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:Of course - 06It is Not Money Alone That Motivates Employees - 1242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:07] <exec> 08└─More like, they're afraid to say no. I attended 2 or 3 such events. I forget what they called them, something like "manager's club". They certainly were educational, just not in good, honest, sincere ways. After a few such after work parties, I felt I'd seen enough, learned what little there was to...
[23:04:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Of course - 06It is Not Money Alone That Motivates Employees - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:08] <exec> 08└─I dunno. One of thoes outings where they do "team building" at a paintball facility, after a few beers, can get interesting.
[23:04:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Of course - 06It is Not Money Alone That Motivates Employees - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:10] <exec> 08└─Sure, if you treat your employees well, they're more likely to be happy with their work environment, which will make them more likely to like their jobs, which will in turn will make management more likely to underpay them, which in turn will make your employees want to quit.
[23:04:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02How is this news? - 06It is Not Money Alone That Motivates Employees - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:04:12] <exec> 08└─Herzberg proposed this very idea [wikipedia.org] decades ago.
[23:04:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:How is this news? - 06It is Not Money Alone That Motivates Employees - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:14] <exec> 08└─Empirical Verification of Theories is a key component of science.
[23:04:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03srobert [4803] (Score:3, Informative) 02I Would Take a Pay Cut for More Job Security. - 06It is Not Money Alone That Motivates Employees - 866 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:04:15] <exec> 08└─I get paid a very good salary, so I'm not complaining about that. My employer had never had layoffs until last year. It was only then that we found out that the policies in the employee handbook indicating that seniority would be a major consideration were nothing but lip service. For the past year...
[23:04:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03srobert [4803] (Score:2) 02An Edit - 06It is Not Money Alone That Motivates Employees - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:17] <exec> 08└─That second to last sentence should have read: I'd take a substantial pay cut right now, in exchange for knowing that management wasn't going to pull the same crap in the future.
[23:04:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:An Edit - 06It is Not Money Alone That Motivates Employees - 1311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:19] <exec> 08└─Indeed, and it never works like that. I've worked for three very large "big name" companies now, and when the down-sizing starts as a one-off for the first time, the do it just once more, and just once more again, and then again... Eventually critical mass is lost (loyalty, senior staff, institution...
[23:04:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:4, Interesting) 02My anecdote... - 06It is Not Money Alone That Motivates Employees - 2244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:04:21] <exec> 08└─I used to really like my job. I got (and still get) paid pretty decent. I ran/run the systems for one of our areas of business. Everything from the back end servers, to interfacing into SAP, to the front end software. I felt a real ownership of the environment and it was like my baby. I would improv...
[23:04:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Oblig - 06It is Not Money Alone That Motivates Employees - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:04:22] <exec> 08└─HR Appreciation gives me such a thrill But that's not going to pay my bills, I want your money (that's.. what I want) I want your money (that's.. what I want) I want your mon-mon-mon-eee It's money that I want
[23:04:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Even for management dribble... - 06It is Not Money Alone That Motivates Employees - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:04:24] <exec> 08└─This is one inane piece of ... whatever you call this sorta thing. So some wet-behind-the-ear management consultant will go around, citing this as a "scientific" research, to tell management to do x, y, z. Having paid fat sum for such uncanny wisdom, the management will cook up and pass down some...
[23:04:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Even for management dribble... - 06It is Not Money Alone That Motivates Employees - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:26] <exec> 08└─Then, after spending too much on a parade of useless consultants, they'll decide to cut costs by removing all the free snacks and drinks and switching the coffee to the cheapest swill they can find.
[23:04:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Even for management dribble... - 06It is Not Money Alone That Motivates Employees - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:27] <exec> 08└─Dream on - it will be layoff, stock price jumps, and execs pocket fattened bonus.
[23:04:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimbrooking [3465] (Score:2) 02Maslow Hierarchy of Needs - 1942 - 06It is Not Money Alone That Motivates Employees - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:04:29] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs [wikipedia.org]
[23:04:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02Whatever - 06It is Not Money Alone That Motivates Employees - 419 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:04:31] <exec> 08└─The idea that anyone would believe anything an executive would tell them, let alone be motivated to work harder for less money, is astounding. Of course execs would manipulate you to work for below market value any way they could. That's their job. You must not have met the same executives I've met....
[23:04:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Whatever - 06It is Not Money Alone That Motivates Employees - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:33] <exec> 08└─I believe German executives are not quite so absurdly overpaid as American ones. Perhaps this means they are less likely to delude themselves into thinking they are acting in the employee's best interest. Or perhaps that comes with a German mentality.
[23:04:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02I agree... in general... - 06It is Not Money Alone That Motivates Employees - 912 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:04:34] <exec> 08└─But the devil is in the details. 10 years or so ago, I was defined by my work. Programming was who I was, not just what I did. Most of my circle of friends were my coworkers. (and/or classmates) I was in the industry long enough that wages were not an issue; therefore seeking a job that has amenitie...
[23:04:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Metabolization? - 06Straight Up, With A Twist: New Model Derives 'Handedness' From Basic Life Requirements - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:04:36] <exec> 08└─So, we colonize a new world. On that world, the handedness is reversed. The flora and fauna are very much like that found on earth, it's just other handed. I don't suppose that would make it poisonous to us. Would we get the same nutrition from it?
[23:04:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:Metabolization? - 06Straight Up, With A Twist: New Model Derives 'Handedness' From Basic Life Requirements - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:38] <exec> 08└─We couldn't use those reversed substances for our metabolism, so the nutritional value would be zero. BTW, I wouldn't bet on those wrong-chirality being harmless. See on this page [chirality.org] under "Chirality in life" on how different-handed substances can have very different effects.
[23:04:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Metabolization? - 06Straight Up, With A Twist: New Model Derives 'Handedness' From Basic Life Requirements - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:39] <exec> 08└─Excellent, and I thank you, AC. I have read a few stories dealing with mankind's potential reactions to alien life forms. Sometimes the theories made less sense than other times. Thalidomyde sorta puts some of those ideas into perspective. I never realized that the problem had to do with mirror imag...
[23:04:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Metabolization? - 06Straight Up, With A Twist: New Model Derives 'Handedness' From Basic Life Requirements - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:41] <exec> 08└─We couldn't use those reversed substances for our metabolism,
[23:04:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:2) 02Re:Metabolization? - 06Straight Up, With A Twist: New Model Derives 'Handedness' From Basic Life Requirements - 1027 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:43] <exec> 08└─Deliberately poisonous or not...your immune system will go absolutely haywire. First, you'll be subjected to all sorts of small bits of chemically reactive alien life -- the alien equivalent of pollen spores and dandruff. You'll likely experience an insanely intense allergic reaction to all of that....
[23:04:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Metabolization? - 06Straight Up, With A Twist: New Model Derives 'Handedness' From Basic Life Requirements - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:45] <exec> 08└─You'll likely experience an insanely intense allergic reaction to all of that. [...] and there'll be alien equivalents of fungi that'll think they've died and gone to heaven...but your immune system won't have a clue that they're there or how to evict them.
[23:04:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:2) 02Re:Metabolization? - 06Straight Up, With A Twist: New Model Derives 'Handedness' From Basic Life Requirements - 980 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:46] <exec> 08└─Different agents, different responses. There will be harmless agents akin to terrestrial pollens that will trigger inordinate immune responses, just as they do here on Earth. But the immune system will find them even more confusingly alarming than ragweed or what-not simply because it hasn't had a c...
[23:04:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03WalksOnDirt [5854] (Score:1) 02Re:Metabolization? - 06Straight Up, With A Twist: New Model Derives 'Handedness' From Basic Life Requirements - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:48] <exec> 08└─Would we get the same nutrition from it?
[23:04:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Finally, a plausible universal life-detector? - 06Straight Up, With A Twist: New Model Derives 'Handedness' From Basic Life Requirements - 1194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:04:50] <exec> 08└─One of the biggest challenges for those people wanting to look for life elsewhere in the solar system is that there's a very good chance we wouldn't recognize it simply because it's so alien - unless it's macroscopic and/or obviously moving under its own power it's unlikely to catch our attention. T...
[23:04:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:Finally, a plausible universal life-detector? - 06Straight Up, With A Twist: New Model Derives 'Handedness' From Basic Life Requirements - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:51] <exec> 08└─Whatever you do with your universal life-detector, just don't cross the beams.
[23:04:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:4, Informative) 02Convincing? - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:04:53] <exec> 08└─Whether they need convincing or not isn't really relevant. Something that's that toxic to the environment should be banned immediately, especially if there are less harmful alternatives.
[23:04:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Convincing? - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:55] <exec> 08└─I am going to guess that someone with a profit motivation will decry government regulation and champion our freedom to poison the environment because its good business and downright unAmerican to express concern for some underwater rock in another country.
[23:04:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Convincing? - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:57] <exec> 08└─No. This is a simple case of Think of the Children. The government wants your children to get sun burned and skin cancer!
[23:04:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03That_Dude [2503] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Convincing? - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 437 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:58] <exec> 08└─I read up on benzophenone-3, aka oxybenzone, and found that it is not recommended for children under 2. There are other types of sunscreen ingredients which aren't known to be toxic - titanium dioxide for instance - it's used as a coloring agent; in pastry glaze for instance. As for children under 2...
[23:04:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not just kids - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 748 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:00] <exec> 08└─I was reading the coverage at the Center for American Progress [thinkprogress.org] at just about the same time that frojack was submitting this. The human health effects of oxybenzone, along with other chemicals found in the vast majority of sunscreens, have been called into question by the Environm...
[23:05:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:5, Funny) 02Re:Convincing? - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:02] <exec> 08└─... What country do you think Hawaii is in exactly?
[23:05:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Convincing? - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:04] <exec> 08└─> Something that's that toxic to the environment should be banned immediately I think these results really need to be independently verified before that.
[23:05:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Convincing? - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:05] <exec> 08└─Whether they need convincing or not isn't really relevant. Something that's that toxic to the environment should be banned immediately, especially if there are less harmful alternatives.
[23:05:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Convincing? - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:07] <exec> 08└─A claimed toxicity threshold of 1 part in 10 billion is remarkably low for a chemical that you can absorb through your skin without serious consequence aside from the occasional allergic reaction.
[23:05:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03gringer [962] (Score:2) 02Re:Convincing? - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:09] <exec> 08└─There may not be any less harmful alternatives, just less tested alternatives. See the BPA-free debate [ehjournal.net] for more details of a similar situation.
[23:05:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillAdams [1424] (Score:1) 02How much of what is dissolved in the oceans? - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:05:11] <exec> 08└─What elements and compounds are there in quantities which would make commercial exploitation feasible? Why not include refining in desalination plants? (Unfortunately, we're a long way away from the pseudolife mining which Hal Clement posited in his short story, “The Mechanic”.)
[23:05:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:3, Interesting) 02This is terrible - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:05:12] <exec> 08└─Likely the alternatives are just as bad, it's just that we don't have studies about the effects of the alternatives. I don't think humans will ever stop casually fucking things up. It jsut becomes more casual the more of us there are.
[23:05:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Nobody gives a damn - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:14] <exec> 08└─This is not news since 2008 at the very least. And still in 2015 it is business as usual. There is money to be made, and dead corals are somebody else's problem. :(
[23:05:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Sunscreen--really? - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:05:16] <exec> 08└─I guess we've solved all the world's problems, which is why we're talking about THIS. I just stayed up all night trying to get an Ubuntu box to boot properly after someone hosed some System D configuration file. With System D out in the wild, I can hardly deem this article newsworthy.
[23:05:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Sunscreen--really? - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:17] <exec> 08└─Whereas some of us have much broader interests.
[23:05:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Sunscreen--really? - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:19] <exec> 08└─Whereas some of us have much broader interests.
[23:05:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Sunscreen--really? - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:21] <exec> 08└─A response straight out of the System D apologist playbook. "Deflect, ridicule, ostracize. "
[23:05:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Sunscreen--really? - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 642 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:23] <exec> 08└─I prefer OpenRC. Hell, I'd prefer a kooky makefile-based init I came up with some years ago just to see if I could make the idea work. (Think make -j10 runlevel5.) Systemd, if I understand the capabilities it offers, might make sense for a smartphone, even a laptop. My server in the clouds and my ga...
[23:05:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:Sunscreen--really? - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:24] <exec> 08└─There is more to life than systemd. TFA is about protecting coral and I have to applaud your attempt to introduce systemd into the discussion. But, just for the record, I abhor systemd. However, I realise that I will have to understand it in order to maintain systems that use it. How many buggy whip...
[23:05:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sunscreen--really? - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:26] <exec> 08└─However, I realise that I will have to understand it in order to maintain systems that use it. How many buggy whip shops are there in your town?
[23:05:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sunscreen--really? - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:29] <exec> 08└─I guess that's what bill gates thought when they started using msoffice in schools.
[23:05:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sunscreen--really? - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:33] <exec> 08└─You still can't spell systemd properly. Your credibility to judge the validity of an init system is non existent.
[23:05:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sunscreen--really? - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:36] <exec> 08└─You are wrestling with a pig.
[23:05:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sunscreen--really? - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:40] <exec> 08└─You are wrestling with a pig.
[23:05:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sunscreen--really? - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:41] <exec> 08└─The whip shops in my town are completely bug-free! :-)
[23:05:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Sunscreen--really? - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:43] <exec> 08└─"Deflect, ridicule, ostracize. " Well, we're certainly seeing the deflection (away from the environmental concern under discussion). Sounds like the work of a different sort of apologist, though...
[23:05:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sunscreen--really? - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:45] <exec> 08└─I can see that as someone whose waking hours are at night, you'd have no use for sunscreen. Well, others are awake during the day. :-)
[23:05:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03That_Dude [2503] (Score:3, Informative) 02Not suitable for children and aquatic fate - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 1689 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:05:47] <exec> 08└─After digging around and reading these two articles, I wonder just how far back up the food chain this substance goes and also its effect on plankton and cyanobacteria. http://www.eurekalert.org [eurekalert.org] - "Sunscreens with benzophenone-3 unsuitable for...
[23:05:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03terrab0t [4674] (Score:1) 02Micronized Zinc Oxide - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:05:48] <exec> 08└─I started using micronized zinc oxide sunscreen long ago out of concern for my health. Apparently I'm also not poisoning everything around me. That's good to know.
[23:05:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Micronized Zinc Oxide - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:50] <exec> 08└─You don't know that. You only know that you're not using a substance that is known to be poisonous for the environment. Well, actually you don't even know that; all you know is that you never heard about that substance being poisonous.
[23:05:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Micronized Zinc Oxide - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 475 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:52] <exec> 08└─http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_Chemical.jsp?Rec_Id=PC35158 [pesticideinfo.org] High toxicity in "PAN Bad Actors" and "Developmental or Reproductive Toxin" PAN Bad Actors are chemicals that are one or more of the following: highly acutely toxic, cholinesterase inhibitor, known/probable carcinoge...
[23:05:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03termigator [4271] (Score:1) 02Re:Micronized Zinc Oxide - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:54] <exec> 08└─IIRC, zinc oxide products may contain traces of lead. I think it may be related to the processes used. It was along time ago, so I do not have any links. I try to avoid using sunscreen, and just monitor how much my skin is exposed to to the sun. If I know I am going to be out in the sun for a long p...
[23:05:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Micronized Zinc Oxide - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 1228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:55] <exec> 08└─The heavy clothing is a good idea, but it can be inconvenient to cover the nose, ears and tops of the hands that way. What I just learned is that zinc is most commonly obtained from sphalerite (ZnS) whereas lead is most often gotten from galena (PbS), and that these minerals are usually found togeth...
[23:05:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Informative) 02this is not new - 06Sunscreen: Coral Reef Killer? - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:05:57] <exec> 08└─When I took my first scuba course in c. 2003 we were taught that sunscreen harmed the coral. It also causes your mask to leak so it's a no-brainer to wipe off before diving.
[23:05:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Cornwallis [359] (Score:1) 02Uh Huh... - 06New York Times to Deliver Google Cardboard VR to Subscribers - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:05:59] <exec> 08└─"The power of VR is that it gives the viewer a unique sense of empathic connection to people and events," said Jake Silverstein Unlike NYT writing which has gotten so off-putting as to be unreadable in many cases!
[23:06:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Uh Huh... - 06New York Times to Deliver Google Cardboard VR to Subscribers - 2081 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:01] <exec> 08└─I think they said this about smellovision in movie theatres, too. It's just a gimmick to get people to like it and spend time or money on the things presented through it. Maybe it is a force that will act for the greater good, but the very name seems like it's intended to be disposable, cheap, and n...
[23:06:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02pr0n - 06New York Times to Deliver Google Cardboard VR to Subscribers - 395 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:06:02] <exec> 08└─Together, they created a film called The Displaced, which covers the story of three young children -- one from South Sudan, one from eastern Ukraine, and one from Syria -- who have been uprooted from their homes due to war in their regions. The story is captured with 360-degree cameras and taken fro...
[23:06:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:4, Funny) 02Correction - 06New York Times to Deliver Google Cardboard VR to Subscribers - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:06:04] <exec> 08└─to deliver over 1 million Cardboard virtual reality viewers
[23:06:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Are these like the 3D Goggles - 06New York Times to Deliver Google Cardboard VR to Subscribers - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:06:06] <exec> 08└─Handed out at the movies? From what I've seen, they get most of them back after the show ends.
[23:06:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:Very important - 06The Story of MicroPython on the BBC micro:bit - 727 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:08] <exec> 08└─You aren't kidding about feature creep. When you look at where the micro:bit was before ARM, Microsoft, and friends became involved it was much simpler. After they became involved the project actually split in two. The official one is what we see now. The unofficial one is called CodeBug and is bein...
[23:06:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03cyberthanasis [5212] (Score:1) 02Competition - 06The Story of MicroPython on the BBC micro:bit - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:06:10] <exec> 08└─It is going to face much competiton. The pyboard mentioned in the article has better specs, it has much simpler interface and it costs 35 euros or so. I wonder how much micro:bit will cost when it is available. MicroPython is really cool. And it is also the OS, at least in pyboard (https://micropyth...
[23:06:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02regulations on 'zero day market cum' - 06How Zero-Day Vulnerabilities Are Traded and Used - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:06:11] <exec> 08└─That sounds disgusting yet has made me very curious.
[23:06:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03fliptop [1666] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Punishing discovery? - 06How Zero-Day Vulnerabilities Are Traded and Used - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:06:13] <exec> 08└─In most countries, there are scant legal mechanisms for discouraging or punishing the discovery of new zero-days.
[23:06:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Punishing discovery? - 06How Zero-Day Vulnerabilities Are Traded and Used - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:15] <exec> 08└─It is a logical extension of existing laws against making or discussing circumvention tools for Technological Protection Measures. Tried to write a pithy argument, but TPMs break the concepts of ownership or control.
[23:06:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03rob_on_earth [5485] (Score:1) 02Re:Punishing discovery? - 06How Zero-Day Vulnerabilities Are Traded and Used - 458 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:17] <exec> 08└─this x100!! make hacking completely legal and make the hackers stars, quickly identifying ALL low hanging fruit and advancing what low hanging fruit is. I hate the idea that a company can put up a web site with customers details or other valuable data and then just sit back and complain when they ge...
[23:06:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Researcher here - 06How Zero-Day Vulnerabilities Are Traded and Used - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:06:18] <exec> 08└─In the US, the Senate is set to vote on the Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act as soon as today [20 Oct]. The legislation would expand the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act to include security research.
[23:06:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Researcher here - 06How Zero-Day Vulnerabilities Are Traded and Used - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:20] <exec> 08└─It is scary what governments are trying to do. Criminalize security research? Or register yourself if you are about to write dangerous code or run a debugger? In time, it will become difficult to tell what you can and cannot do research on. And that benefits the criminals in governments. They can ju...
[23:06:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03chrysosphinx [5262] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Czech Republic, Europe - 06How Zero-Day Vulnerabilities Are Traded and Used - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:06:22] <exec> 08└─CHARTER OF FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS OF THE EUROPEAN UNION Article 13 Freedom of the arts and sciences The arts and scientific research shall be free of constraint. Academic freedom shall be respected. At least in my country (Czech Republic) the Charter has been accepted by Constitution, (article 112 I gue...
[23:06:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Dead giveaway - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:24] <exec> 08└─Predictable canned replies and overused catchphrases ("Obligatory XKCD") are proof of a real poster desperately looking for validation. Because they work at obtaining upvotes wihout actually contributing anything new to the discussion. It's the linkbait of commenting :D Props to parent poster for ac...
[23:06:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Dead giveaway - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:25] <exec> 08└─I ordered some personal validation, and instead received complaints about cans and catchphrases. A bobcat would have been better. Or at least a link to some bait that could lure a bobcat into a box that could then be sent "return to sender. COD." Would not comment again.
[23:06:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I only read negative reviews - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:27] <exec> 08└─>"... but a couple negative reviews kept getting rejected." The negative reviews I have seen vary widely, including flames, off-topic commentary, problems that were obviously the fault of the reviewer, etc. I very much wonder what it was about yours that got them rejected or redacted.
[23:06:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I only read negative reviews - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:29] <exec> 08└─My gripe is with idiots on Amazon (and elsewhere) who give a product 1 star and state as reason: Had to return....I didn't do my research and bought the wrong thing. don't give a product 1 star because of your ignorance. I have seen this more than once.
[23:06:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03skater [4342] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:I only read negative reviews - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 1830 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:30] <exec> 08└─This XKCD [xkcd.com] is an excellent example of why the negative reviews are sometimes the most important. I have to admit selling a bit of my soul when it comes to reviews. We had a local company replace our front door a couple years ago. They did a great job, the price was fair, and we were happy...
[23:06:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:I only read negative reviews - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:32] <exec> 08└─I found positive reviews to be misleading and inaccurate even if they're not blatantly fake. It's not possible to tell how long after a purchase these reviews were posted
[23:06:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03tempest [3050] (Score:2) 02Re:I only read negative reviews - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:34] <exec> 08└─This is a problem I have with the modern technology cycle. By the time you let things shake out to see if it has a good track record, the product isn't even made anymore. Then again someone with good experiences with a product likely wouldn't remember to go back and review it (if still produced).
[23:06:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:I only read negative reviews - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 531 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:36] <exec> 08└─Sort by rating and look at the worst reviews first. Often enough you will find very good information in them which can reveal gotchas and other good information from people who have taken the time to actually use the product before rating. All too often people will review something after receiving i...
[23:06:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Funny - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:37] <exec> 08└─Not a fan of the online retailer, and who knows how many negative reviews are pending, but 1 star is the most popular rating of this tablet made by the brand you describe [amazon.com].
[23:06:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Look at what the Review Focuses on - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:06:39] <exec> 08└─FTFA:- when it comes to hotels, fake reviewers tended not to talk about the spatial details—such as the floor or bathroom. Instead, they focused on the reason they were there, such as describing a recent fake vacation or business trip. In practice, this makes sense because someone who has never b...
[23:06:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmdrklarg [5048] (Score:2, Funny) 02Re:Look at what the Review Focuses on - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:41] <exec> 08└─an all-night heavy metal band venue on the other
[23:06:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03number6 [1831] (Score:2) 02Fake reviews sometimes make you laugh ... - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:06:43] <exec> 08└─The customer reviews at this Amazon page are not just fake, they are distorting reality: How to Avoid Huge Ships (book) - by John W. Trimmer [amazon.com]
[23:06:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Fake reviews sometimes make you laugh ... - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:44] <exec> 08└─I was under the impression those reviews, particularly for that line of books... were written by incredulous people that had no means to alter the system that rewards such penmanship, and so decided to poison the inkwell with their comments.
[23:06:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Fake reviews sometimes make you laugh ... - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:46] <exec> 08└─Theyre fecking hilarious! :) My guess, from reading the reviews, would be that the book was actually a Monty Python skit title if it didn't actually seem to be a real book. WHY NO KINDLE EDITION?????? By Jim Henley on December 26, 2013 Format: Paperback Given that there is a huge ship bearing down o...
[23:06:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score:3, Funny) 02Easy - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:06:48] <exec> 08└─It is easy to spot the fake review: they appear on Amazon
[23:06:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:2) 02I have been aware of these fake reviews for a long - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 1113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:06:49] <exec> 08└─A while back (say 5 years) I had my girlfriend at the time post a review on Amazon. Since then the review had become somewhat popular. Few months back I began receiving emails asking me to post a review for product that would be provided to me free of charge. Clearly some sort of a scam where I get...
[23:06:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I have been aware of these fake reviews for a l - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:51] <exec> 08└─Or there's websites with only fake reviews. Like Angie's List, totally fake reviews.
[23:06:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I have been aware of these fake reviews for a l - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 393 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:53] <exec> 08└─> I have long learned I cannot trust anything nice said on the Internet. Quite a few years ago Amazon effed up and revealed the true names of reviewers for a day or so. Turned out that lots of authors were leaving 1-star reviews for competing books. Since then, Amazon has started rejecting any book...
[23:06:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:2) 02Re:I have been aware of these fake reviews for a l - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:54] <exec> 08└─Quite a few years ago Amazon effed up and revealed the true names of reviewers for a day or so. Turned out that lots of authors were leaving 1-star reviews for competing books.
[23:06:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I have been aware of these fake reviews for a l - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:06:56] <exec> 08└─. Turned out that lots of authors were leaving 1-star reviews for competing books.
[23:06:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Newegg - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 704 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:06:58] <exec> 08└─I shop at newegg. Where they seem to have largely been able to cut out the fake reviews. They have the verified purchaser note which is the biggest thing I look at. I typically look for the items with most reviews. 5 star means nothing, if it's only been rated a handful of times. I look for the ones...
[23:06:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Forget product reviews! - 06How to Spot a Fake Online Review - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:07:00] <exec> 08└─If you want some entertainment, check out the reviews over at glassdoor.com. My spouse's former company had decayed in reviews to rock-bottom. Suddenly there appeared a string of 5-star ratings full of marketing-speak. One comment contained something to the effect of "They're making us write good ra...
[23:07:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Osamabobama [5842] (Score:1) 02Re:Air Force? - 06Bright Blue PHOLEDs Almost Ready for TV - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:01] <exec> 08└─Active camouflage is what you are describing.
[23:07:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02NTSC - 06Bright Blue PHOLEDs Almost Ready for TV - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:07:03] <exec> 08└─National Television Systems Committee (NTSC).
[23:07:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:So... - 06What Thomas Jefferson's Hidden Lab Teaches About US Science Education - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:05] <exec> 08└─Judging by the summary, the article teaches us something about not teaching kids religion. But ironically that doesn't seem to be a scientific conclusion drawn from the article, but rather the submitter's opinion lightly projected onto it. Then again, maybe I'm reading too much into what he says.
[23:07:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonymousCowardNoMore [5416] (Score:2) 02Re:So... - 06What Thomas Jefferson's Hidden Lab Teaches About US Science Education - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:07] <exec> 08└─John Dalton's theory that all matter is made of atoms "which are the smallest constituents of matter that cannot be broken down without losing the basic chemical and physical properties of that matter" (quote stolen from here) was only a few decades old and not yet proven or even widely accepted
[23:07:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:2) 02Re:So... - 06What Thomas Jefferson's Hidden Lab Teaches About US Science Education - 802 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:08] <exec> 08└─Your're absolutely right, but you did forget to mention Platon, who was also an atomist and wrote some really crazy stuff about the five elements. I found it very hard to read, even in its modern translation. (Archimedes, on the other hand, was quite fun and easy to understand, I think it is because...
[23:07:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonymousCowardNoMore [5416] (Score:2) 02Re:So... - 06What Thomas Jefferson's Hidden Lab Teaches About US Science Education - 996 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:10] <exec> 08└─Of course think I did stress that I was talking about who formulated an idea rather than who found a way to test it. We credit, after all, Einstein for the things he came up with* based on prior observations even though there was no way to test them at the time. I'm sure you can think of other examp...
[23:07:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02How - 06What Thomas Jefferson's Hidden Lab Teaches About US Science Education - 384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:07:12] <exec> 08└─How can a room be hidden? Ever since the first article this has intrigued me. So there is a building, in it are rooms with doors and walls that separate it from other rooms and the outside. In my mind, one would either repurpose the room or change the location of inner walls. But here we have a room...
[23:07:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03myopinionmatters [5312] (Score:1) 02Re:How - 06What Thomas Jefferson's Hidden Lab Teaches About US Science Education - 923 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:14] <exec> 08└─Sounds like you have never remodeled a part of your home. The conversations probably went: Contractor: " Hey Jefferson to get the walls to meet up right we'll have to rip out these 2 and it will set you back 2 months which puts us into winter." Jefferson: " Can we just put the wall here and cut this...
[23:07:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How - 06What Thomas Jefferson's Hidden Lab Teaches About US Science Education - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:15] <exec> 08└─Had it been Ben Franklin, he would have been all, "nopers, those who would give up essential Space, to purchase a little temporary Time, deserve neither Space nor Time."
[23:07:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03BananaPhone [2488] (Score:2) 02It shows that science was feared... - 06What Thomas Jefferson's Hidden Lab Teaches About US Science Education - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:07:17] <exec> 08└─It shows that science was feared and had to be practiced in secret. And with the way laws are going in the US (and its puppet countries), we will need more secret labs, again. Not all secret labs make bombs/drugs as this discovery shows.
[23:07:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:It shows that science was feared... - 06What Thomas Jefferson's Hidden Lab Teaches About US Science Education - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:19] <exec> 08└─It shows that science was feared and had to be practiced in secret.
[23:07:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Something something something - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 379 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:20] <exec> 08└─What infuriates me about this is a cashless society would be solely in the hands of the banks and not the people/government like cash. This gives the few credit card companies a monopoly on the control of money. It also gives them free reign to charge merchants for transactions on EVERY monetary tra...
[23:07:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:2) 02Re:Something something something - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:22] <exec> 08└─You know... There is an open source alternative - Bitcoin. Unfortunately, just like linux on the desktop, it's not that popular (yet?).
[23:07:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Something something something - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:24] <exec> 08└─My beef isn't with the alternatives. It's the shifting of control over a nation's currency from public to private proving the benefactors with free welfare.
[23:07:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''just like linux on the desktop'' - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 535 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:26] <exec> 08└─it's not that popular WRT Linux, it depends on where you look. (Robert Pogson has repeatedly found that islands in particular are fertile ground for Linux adoption.) It also depends on what you call a "desktop". (Most folks only use handheld thingies these days.) ...and StatCounter--by sloth or by d...
[23:07:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Something something something - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:27] <exec> 08└─There are some real problems with scaling up bitcoin. The design inherently causes each succeeding bitcoin to be harder to mine...and the scale isn't merely linear.
[23:07:28] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03simonInOz [2173] 02Re:Something something something - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 1563 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:29] <exec> 08└─As an ex-bank employee I might be able to offer some balance. It's a balance of risk against convenience. Originally, the 4 digit PIN was determined by asking someone (could it have been the developer's partner?) how many digits they thought they could remember - and thus we have 4. Not very scienti...
[23:07:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:2) 02Re:Something something something - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:31] <exec> 08└─Hmm... I run a system that uses pins for verification. I queried the DB for Pin numbers and sorted by number of occurrences. Surprisingly, the distribution of pins is pretty good. The most popular pin (1234 - classic) is associated with under 0.1% of cards (1 in 1000). Of the top 10 pin numbers, 6 o...
[23:07:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''after three failed tries'' - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:33] <exec> 08└─That's what gets me about all these "cracking" episodes. I keep hearing that there is no penalty for entering incorrect information. An escalating (wait) time interval should be a minimum penalty for entering a password wrong. your card [gets] blocked Yeah. Who are these nitwits that think it's a go...
[23:07:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Webweasel [567] (Score:1) 02Re:Something something something - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:34] <exec> 08└─I was in Rome a few weeks back. Grandfather took the family to McDonalds to get some icecream. The automated order machines confused us a lot, as when you got to payment there was no language option. To authorise the card? Use your finger to sign on the pad (it was a chip and pin pad with touch scre...
[23:07:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Osamabobama [5842] (Score:1) 02Re:Thank god for locaion tracking and data retenti - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:36] <exec> 08└─Have you ever noticed that there are more ads where there are more people?
[23:07:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Thank god for locaion tracking and data retenti - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:38] <exec> 08└─In a word, No.
[23:07:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Thank god for locaion tracking and data retenti - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:40] <exec> 08└─Tower data is certain, but I would be surprised if the TLAs didn't have some GPS logs as well.
[23:07:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03pendorbound [2688] (Score:2) 02Re:The exploit is pretty obvious - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:41] <exec> 08└─It's about being relatively more secure. I guarantee a bug in all of that stuff going on in your phone is less likely to result in a financial loss to you than dropping a $100 note or your magstripe only credit card on the ground. Nothing is perfect. Better than status quo is a reasonable goal.
[23:07:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:The exploit is pretty obvious - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 659 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:43] <exec> 08└─Yup, that is what I'm getting at. As soon as I read the article the first thought was "WTF? Who designed the protocol with such an obvious exploit?" Then I read on and saw that the PIN step was designed to be optional. So defective by design. The are going to need a 2.0, backward compatible only for...
[23:07:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:The exploit is pretty obvious - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:45] <exec> 08└─Because its very hard to steal a card, modify it with an additional chip, and get it into the field fast enough to milk it for lots of money before the owner notices it missing, and calls in, and the card gets canceled.
[23:07:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Scratchers? - 06Chip-and-Pin Credit Card PIN Bypass - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:50] <exec> 08└─ScratchIES in AU
[23:08:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:3, Interesting) 02life's other demands - 06Helping Students Stick with MOOCs - 476 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:08:10] <exec> 08└─Okay, so how are they "providing them with extra help" for "life's other demands"? Do they do medical procedures for you? Meet deadlines for you? MOOCs seem to be based on the college immersion model where you take a course and immerse yourself in it for several months, doing extra homework, tutoria...
[23:08:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02better tracking - 06Helping Students Stick with MOOCs - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:08:11] <exec> 08└─Fundamentally its just better tracking. In the old days you had no way to track someone picking up a book at a bookstore and looking at it, or viewing a web page and going "huh, interesting". Now you can watch them sign up for and drop out of a class.
[23:08:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Re:Hot Dog... - 06DNA Study Says Dog First Appeared in Central Asia - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:26] <exec> 08└─Leave it to the gross asians to eat every damn thing that lives.
[23:08:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Dietary habits of other cultures - 06DNA Study Says Dog First Appeared in Central Asia - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:28] <exec> 08└─You need to spend some time at a dog pound and see what happens to the majority of dogs in the majority of dog pounds. At least the Asians aren't wasteful. -- gewg_
[23:08:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03captain normal [2205] 02Re:I have a good idea - 06IARPA’s New Director Wants You to Surprise Him - 202 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:44] <exec> 08└─Number one: Lose the stupid grey suit. Number two: Realize that the enemy of the republic is the military/industrial complex. Number three: The people are not the enemy. Number four: Act accordingly.
[23:08:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Surprise! - 06IARPA’s New Director Wants You to Surprise Him - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:08:49] <exec> 08└─Surprise! [cornell.edu]
[23:09:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:12] <exec> 08└─Yes. USB passthrough won't work without the extensions.
[23:09:14] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 581 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:14] <exec> 08└─Someone modded you troll. Apparently, they don't work with industrial equpiment. Branson welders discovered the truth of what you're saying. They stopped making Windows controlled welders, and switched off to Linux. None of our capital investment level equipment has ever used Windows. None of our sm...
[23:09:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 513 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:17] <exec> 08└─My bet is they had a lot of VB5/6 code. Recent security changes like don't foolishly write to the program files directory, UAC, and graphical changes are what cripples them. Though, some simple tweaks can fix most or all of those problems. Though, drivers and real hardware like PCI cards are your ac...
[23:09:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:19] <exec> 08└─Go look up Beckhoff automation. They make Windows PC based automation systems for plants and machinery that can cost millions. Scary stuff.
[23:09:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:23] <exec> 08└─Thanks for that tip. I'll look into it.
[23:09:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcross [4009] (Score:2) 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:25] <exec> 08└─You can also get dedicated hardware serial to ethernet converter boxes. I used these to replace a rats-nest of serial cables in the office of a manufacturing plant and they seemed to work quite well, at least for printers and dumb terminals and that sort of thing.
[23:09:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:27] <exec> 08└─That could work straight from the VM to the serial port. Though, powering it up in the field might be a problem unless it could be powered from USB.
[23:09:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:30] <exec> 08└─It may handle software, but are there Linux drivers for the hardware? I have an older MOMO Steering wheel that Logitech made, but I don't know that all of the functions would be supported by Linux, let alone it working with a game installed in WINE. If ReactOS could use the existing Windows drivers,...
[23:09:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Works just fine. - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:32] <exec> 08└─Even under PS2 emulators. Force feedback has worked on linux for a number of years, including via emulators.
[23:09:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bodger [5390] (Score:1) 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:34] <exec> 08└─I tried running wine a few years back but most of the newer Windows apps are .Net and I did not have much luck in running them. Has that improved? Thanx Bodger
[23:09:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:35] <exec> 08└─It isnt that the windows applications are now .NET, they have been for a while. They are just a newer version of .NET. Wine works well with older programs, think two years. New stuff makes calls on dlls that haven't been made to work with wine yet. NO matter what you will never have all of the new a...
[23:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The historical record says no - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:47] <exec> 08└─Internet Explorer (i.e. ActiveX plugins for internal use),
[23:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The historical record says no - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:49] <exec> 08└─Why do you hold Wine to the standard that the programs have to work flawlessly when a lot of them don't work flawlessly in Windows proper?
[23:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The historical record says no - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:53] <exec> 08└─If you don't restrict to the last few versions of Wine, then you get 4051 Platinum ratings. Now this could mean that newer versions of Wine broke thousands of applications. But much more likely is that for most of those it's just that nobody bothered to explicitly enter into the database that those...
[23:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lunix Nutcase [3913] (Score:2) 02Re:The historical record says no - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:54] <exec> 08└─If you don't restrict to the last few versions of Wine, then you get 4051 Platinum ratings.
[23:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lunix Nutcase [3913] (Score:2) 02Re:The historical record says no - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:56] <exec> 08└─And of those, 92 are games. So that leaves us only 61 non-games that have a platinum rating in the stable version of Wine. Of which only 11 are productivity apps, none of which are major applications like Microsoft Office or Photoshop.
[23:09:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:The historical record says no - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:58] <exec> 08└─While I agree that the recent versions of MS Office and Photoshop aren't at platinum level. Photoshop 7 and Microsoft Office 2002 (XP) do have Platinum ratings. Microsoft Office 2002 (XP) is noted as tested using the "most recent stable" version of Wine v1.6.1.
[23:09:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lunix Nutcase [3913] (Score:2) 02Re:The historical record says no - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:00] <exec> 08└─1.6.2 is the recent stable. That's why it's what is shipped in Debian and Ubuntu 15.10. And, neither of those are listed as platinum in 1.6.2. https://appdb.winehq.org
[23:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes - 06512-bit RSA Keys Cracked in Four Hours for only $75 - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:12] <exec> 08└─When the ads become encrypted by google because they succeed in making everything encrypted, it will be much more difficult for the common person to block.
[23:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes - 06512-bit RSA Keys Cracked in Four Hours for only $75 - 587 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:21] <exec> 08└─For symmetric key encryption that point is somewhere around 270 bits using classical computers or about 540 bits using quantum computers. Beyond that it requires more energy than would be available if the entire visible universe was converted to energy. Also that is just the energy to cycle a counte...
[23:10:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03SecurityGuy [1453] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes - 06512-bit RSA Keys Cracked in Four Hours for only $75 - 543 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:23] <exec> 08└─So, I fully agree that taking 512 to 1024 isn't doubling it; if looked at just 512 and added one bit, we have 513 bits, and that adds 513 permutations for possible combinations possible for brute forcing, since that new bit can then match all values of 0 to 512 and add one to it, leading to 513 new...
[23:10:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02Re:So how can I tell if a server is secure? - 06512-bit RSA Keys Cracked in Four Hours for only $75 - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:35] <exec> 08└─It refers to use of the Diffie-Hellman key exchange protocol used for symmetric (AES) key agreement for use with bulk encryption. It has nothing to do with the site certificate that is used to authenticate the connection to the site itself. My example of PayPal's use of SSL has a similar string: TLS...
[23:10:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So how can I tell if a server is secure? - 06512-bit RSA Keys Cracked in Four Hours for only $75 - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:38] <exec> 08└─The 128-bit keys is the key length for the AES bulk encryption used.
[23:10:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02national holiday - 06512-bit RSA Keys Cracked in Four Hours for only $75 - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:10:42] <exec> 08└─"punch a fed" day
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