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[00:47:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03ese002 [5306] (Score:2) 02Re:Good start - 06Let's Encrypt Authority X1 and Let's Encrypt Authority X2 Receive Cross-Signatures - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:47:05] <exec> 08└─Firefox 31.6 ESR Work machine so I mostly get what I get.
[00:47:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Good start - 06Let's Encrypt Authority X1 and Let's Encrypt Authority X2 Receive Cross-Signatures - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:47:06] <exec> 08└─Wait, you knew your were over 10 updates behind and you STILL posted that failure report?!!?
[00:47:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Good start - 06Let's Encrypt Authority X1 and Let's Encrypt Authority X2 Receive Cross-Signatures - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:47:08] <exec> 08└─Even works on Konqueror.
[00:47:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03pixeldyne [2637] (Score:2) 02Re:Senior Science? - 06Tired of Waiting for Feds, New South Wales Mulls Extra Science for High Schoolers - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:47:19] <exec> 08└─It's very basic science, i.e. find out what happens if you switch on a bunsen burner on something, etc. It's an introduction to science, which is too late and pointless anyway. I've only tried it for a couple of weeks because I didn't like the physics teacher but then couldn't stand the 'stupid scie...
[00:47:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Before prop 13 in 1978... - 06Tired of Waiting for Feds, New South Wales Mulls Extra Science for High Schoolers - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:47:23] <exec> 08└─You believe he "invented" that pile of prebuilt BS? I feel sorry for you.
[00:47:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Before prop 13 in 1978... - 06Tired of Waiting for Feds, New South Wales Mulls Extra Science for High Schoolers - 1509 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:47:25] <exec> 08└─Meanwhile 20 years later, in 1998, we got wood shop, biology, physics, and chemistry. The biology class was decent, I'll give them that. I can't speak for wood shop, since I got enough of that around the house to not worry about taking one class on it. The chemistry class left me too unprepared to p...
[00:47:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Before prop 13 in 1978... - 06Tired of Waiting for Feds, New South Wales Mulls Extra Science for High Schoolers - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:47:27] <exec> 08└─Oh yeah, we did have about 5 minutes of electronics in "science" in... I want to say eighth grade, where we covered how light bulbs work. Nothing otherwise, and that was when they weren't preempting "science" for mandatory DARE classes that, you know, taught us how to identify real drugs from fake o...
[00:47:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03VanessaE [3396] (Score:2) 02Maybe a pill isn't so far-fetched... - 06UK NHS to Treat Diabetes Patients With Stem Cell Injections in Trials - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:47:39] <exec> 08└─"The doctor gave me a pill and I grew a new kidney!"
[00:47:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Star Wars 7 - 06Films - "Back to the Future" Day - 21 Oct, and "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:47:58] <exec> 08└─The neat thing about elitism is that standards are so low that it's ridiculously easy to be an elitist.
[00:47:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Star Wars 7 - 06Films - "Back to the Future" Day - 21 Oct, and "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:47:59] <exec> 08└─Back to the Future is a low standards movie. Right.
[00:48:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Star Wars 7 - 06Films - "Back to the Future" Day - 21 Oct, and "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:48:00] <exec> 08└─Ah shit, that's me putting my foot in my mouth again. I didn't catch the focus on Star Wars. My bad. Please feel free to point and laugh at my expense.
[00:51:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Great, more bureaucracy... - 06All Drones in U.S. to Require Federal Registration - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:51:08] <exec> 08└─People are already showing that they'll blithely interfere with firefighting operations and fly drones over crowded areas, and in many cases, you simply can't determine who's responsible.
[00:51:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:ADS-B transponders.. - 06All Drones in U.S. to Require Federal Registration - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:51:14] <exec> 08└─You live up to your nick. I'm confident the registration fees will adequately cover the necessary blame-redirection bureaucracy whenever a federally mandated transponder gets sucked into a jet engine.
[00:51:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Based on timing - 06Ongoing Site Server Reboot Schedule [updated] - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:51:30] <exec> 08└─Probably. Linode doesn't let us see the physical node they're both on, which is a problem when they reboot them.
[00:52:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Let me be the first - 06Canada Does an About Face (Elects Liberal Majority Government) - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:52:33] <exec> 08└─It's relative. For example, the Liberals wanted to get rid of the GST, it was the main point of their campaign. Oops, no, we can't afford to do that, like that was a huge surprise.
[00:52:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03dw861 [1561] (Score:1) 02Re:The Darkness is Behind Us - 06Canada Does an About Face (Elects Liberal Majority Government) - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:52:53] <exec> 08└─No simultaneous translation in this one, I think. https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[00:53:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] 02Re:Voter turn-out - 06Canada Does an About Face (Elects Liberal Majority Government) - 167 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:53:11] <exec> 08└─That's nothing, in the US people are often so compelled to vote that they have been known to leave their graves to cast ballots in certain states. Now that's turn out!
[00:53:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03dw861 [1561] (Score:1) 02Elizabeth May, do not abandon us now. - 06Canada Does an About Face (Elects Liberal Majority Government) - 409 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:53:14] <exec> 08└─Ok Elizabeth May, I'm depending on you to hold Trudeau Jr to account (since I know that you read soylent news and all). I understand that there are petitions circulating to make you Minister of Environment, Ms May. Don't accept. Keep this guy's feet to the fire with as much resolve as you did for th...
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[01:46:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Informative) 02isostop - 06US Will Clean Area in Spain Where Hydrogen Bombs Fell - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:46:50] <exec> 08└─when tests revealed high levels of americium, an isotope of plutonium, and further tests showed
[01:46:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Solution - 06US Will Clean Area in Spain Where Hydrogen Bombs Fell - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:46:51] <exec> 08└─Sink it around Gibraltar and let that city grow! Take that, ya bull murderers!
[01:47:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03ese002 [5306] (Score:2) 02Re:Good start - 06Let's Encrypt Authority X1 and Let's Encrypt Authority X2 Receive Cross-Signatures - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:47:10] <exec> 08└─The last update was March 31st, 2015. hardly a long time ago. Who actually counts updates? I don't even do that on my Gentoo box which I actually own and administer, unlike this one which I don't.
[01:47:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Good start - 06Let's Encrypt Authority X1 and Let's Encrypt Authority X2 Receive Cross-Signatures - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:47:11] <exec> 08└─I don't count them either, I was just going by the version numbers, but they aren't always sequential. But there have been a steady drumbeat of updates since March 31, and in browser years, that IS INDEED a long time ago. Lets Encrypt is a new-ish project, first certificate july 25 2015.
[01:47:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Good start - 06Let's Encrypt Authority X1 and Let's Encrypt Authority X2 Receive Cross-Signatures - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:47:13] <exec> 08└─Firefox 31.6 ESR
[01:47:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Good start - 06Let's Encrypt Authority X1 and Let's Encrypt Authority X2 Receive Cross-Signatures - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:47:14] <exec> 08└─For regular releases (not ESR) the current is 41.0.2, updated mere moments ago.
[01:47:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:2) 02Re:Good start - 06Let's Encrypt Authority X1 and Let's Encrypt Authority X2 Receive Cross-Signatures - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:47:16] <exec> 08└─Correct (Konqueror 4.14.12 linux). Also works in Opera 32.0 linux. Does not work in Pale Moon 25.6.0 linux. Seamonkey won't even start today to find out.
[01:47:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Um... Phrasing - 06Let's Encrypt Authority X1 and Let's Encrypt Authority X2 Receive Cross-Signatures - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:47:18] <exec> 08└─That's the first time I've ever heard the term 'Nonce", apart from in This context [wikipedia.org] Different thing completely as it turns out.
[01:47:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:2) 02Why - 06Let's Encrypt Authority X1 and Let's Encrypt Authority X2 Receive Cross-Signatures - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:47:20] <exec> 08└─Vital personal and business information is flowing over the Internet more frequently than ever, and it's time to encrypt all of it.
[01:47:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Before prop 13 in 1978... - 06Tired of Waiting for Feds, New South Wales Mulls Extra Science for High Schoolers - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:47:34] <exec> 08└─My media propaganda is better than your media propaganda. Fox News? Ew! Let me just stick to good ol' Vox and Gawker. [youtube.com]
[01:47:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Re:Wrong way - 06Tired of Waiting for Feds, New South Wales Mulls Extra Science for High Schoolers - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:47:39] <exec> 08└─Yup. I problem is not with our curriculum. Its with bad teachers.
[01:48:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Re:Star Wars 7 - 06Films - "Back to the Future" Day - 21 Oct, and "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:48:09] <exec> 08└─a new Jar Jar? I doubt it, there is a new droid though. Also lots and lots of lens flare... although to be fair based on the trailers out so far they are more like diffused glares. JJA mellowed down a little, mus be getting old. That or the full on lens flare cometh during the full movie...
[01:48:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02A Few Amazing Things We Have Today, That They Miss - 06Films - "Back to the Future" Day - 21 Oct, and "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:48:22] <exec> 08└─Only two of them are amazing things that we actually have: GPS and 3D printing The rest are either not real, or not amazing.
[01:48:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Walzmyn [987] (Score:1) 02Counter to what we were told - 06The Real Reason Germs Spread in the Winter - 861 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:48:53] <exec> 08└─I work in the poultry business in the Southeast US. All that mess about High-Path Avian Influenza that came though the midwest over the past year? That's been all I've been doing at work for the past month or so, working on bio-security to try to keep it out of our chickens when the birds migrate so...
[01:49:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:The missing metrics - 06Malware App Infects Ubuntu Phone - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:49:12] <exec> 08└─1) How much time elapsed between the release of the software and the time the flaw was reported to the developers?
[01:49:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:less complex != more secure - 06Malware App Infects Ubuntu Phone - 396 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:49:26] <exec> 08└─You've heard the engineering maxim? KISS - Keep It Simple Stupid. The more complex anything is, the more things there are to go wrong. And, in the case of operating systems, the more complexity there is, the more potential exploits there are. An OS is going to be pretty complex, even when the coders...
[01:53:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:The Darkness is Behind Us - 06Canada Does an About Face (Elects Liberal Majority Government) - 435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:53:03] <exec> 08└─At least he was upfront about it unlike the Conservatives who first came to power bitching about the Liberals paying down the debt rather then immediately cutting taxes, cut taxes and proceeded to rack up a C$55 Billion deficit (and C$33.3Billion the next year ). The key is to pay down the debt when...
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[02:46:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Someone's going to post it - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:46:51] <exec> 08└─Haven't we seen this before? Systemd replaces half the operating system on Linux. And, Windows replaces any operating system, introducing malware at the kernel level. There - it's been said. I've saved multiple people the trouble of pointing it out.
[02:47:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Solution - 06US Will Clean Area in Spain Where Hydrogen Bombs Fell - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:47:01] <exec> 08└─I'm sure you were in jest, but spreading it out in the ocean away from on-shore currents is probably exactly what will end up being done, whether or not it first comes to the US.
[02:47:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03KiloByte [375] (Score:1) 02Re:Good start - 06Let's Encrypt Authority X1 and Let's Encrypt Authority X2 Receive Cross-Signatures - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:47:22] <exec> 08└─He's on an ESR release. Not everyone uses unstable snapshots.
[02:47:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Um... Phrasing - 06Let's Encrypt Authority X1 and Let's Encrypt Authority X2 Receive Cross-Signatures - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:47:28] <exec> 08└─I always hear it in a Bitcoin context. But I don't get out much.
[02:47:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Why - 06Let's Encrypt Authority X1 and Let's Encrypt Authority X2 Receive Cross-Signatures - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:47:31] <exec> 08└─Because if they don't get it right, it won't work? The purpose is to set up a free certificate authority. Everyone can already use certificates if they pay up, but once Let's Encrypt is fully ready it removes a barrier to entry.
[02:47:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Don't get it - 06Let's Encrypt Authority X1 and Let's Encrypt Authority X2 Receive Cross-Signatures - 1517 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:47:33] <exec> 08└─The purpose of a certificate authority is to do two things: (1)Do some level of identity checking so that if the certificate claims to be associated with legal entity X, either it came from entity X, or someone has submitted some falsified information that can be used as evidence of fraud at trial....
[02:47:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Before prop 13 in 1978... - 06Tired of Waiting for Feds, New South Wales Mulls Extra Science for High Schoolers - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:47:50] <exec> 08└─It's all OK, he and his entire family are moving to Qatar. Good riddance.
[02:47:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03VanderDecken [5216] (Score:2) 02Re:Before prop 13 in 1978... - 06Tired of Waiting for Feds, New South Wales Mulls Extra Science for High Schoolers - 801 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:47:53] <exec> 08└─Sadly, I can relate to this. Chemistry, physics, biology as separate classes throughout grades 10-12. Shop grades 7 through 12 was woodwork, finishing, drafting, photography, typesetting, plastics, leatherwork, electronics, power (automotives), arc and gas welding, foundry, assembly-line based produ...
[02:47:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:Wrong way - 06Tired of Waiting for Feds, New South Wales Mulls Extra Science for High Schoolers - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:47:57] <exec> 08└─Yup. I problem is not with our curriculum. Its with bad teachers.
[02:47:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03VanderDecken [5216] (Score:2) 02A recommended read - 06Tired of Waiting for Feds, New South Wales Mulls Extra Science for High Schoolers - 522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:47:58] <exec> 08└─An excellent but quick read on the topic is A Mathematician's Lament [amazon.com] by Paul Lockhard (ISBN-13: 978-1-934137-17-8). It talks about non-common teaching methods that emphasizes learning math for the sake of enjoyment and understanding and not by rote. Well, that description doesn't reall...
[02:48:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A Few Amazing Things We Have Today, That They M - 06Films - "Back to the Future" Day - 21 Oct, and "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:48:42] <exec> 08└─Having a computer in my pocket is pretty amazing...
[02:48:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03MorePower [5891] (Score:1) 02Old Marty - 06Films - "Back to the Future" Day - 21 Oct, and "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" - 658 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:48:43] <exec> 08└─I watched the Back to the Future movies this weekend, and the most hilarious part of the "Future" is how old they made "old" Marty McFly. The dialog explicitly mentions that Marty is 47 in 2015. But the make-up looks like he's in his late 50s. This is the first real proof I have of something I have...
[02:48:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02New Star Wars title still annoys me - 06Films - "Back to the Future" Day - 21 Oct, and "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" - 665 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:48:44] <exec> 08└─This whole "Force Awakens" nonsense implies that the Force was somehow asleep before? In the Extended Universe (hell, Obi-Wan even has a throw-away line near the beginning of Episode I referencing it) half of the whole shebang is referred to as "the Living Force" (vs. the Unifying Force)--something...
[02:50:03] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02Re:neat - 06Colour-Change Polymer Offers Sustainable Solution to Mercury Contamination - 290 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:50:03] <exec> 08└─There is no such thing as permanent in chemistry. If its a polymer, UV in sunlight will break it down. If its a hydrocarbon, it probably burns pretty well. Eventually the mercury is coming back out, and in high concentration. May as well do it intentionally at a refinery to recycle the Hg.
[02:51:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Horse's Mouth - 06All Drones in U.S. to Require Federal Registration - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:51:54] <exec> 08└─When I submitted the story, the announcement hadn't been made yet.
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[03:46:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Someone's going to post it - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:46:51] <exec> 08└─Or: Chrome is malware, anyway.
[03:46:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Isn't this talking about Mozilla? - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:46:52] <exec> 08└─They've also replaced my browser with a Chrome lookalike that behaves like malware.
[03:46:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Isn't this talking about Mozilla? - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:46:54] <exec> 08└─Can't tell the difference between Chrome, Firefox or this malware at this point.
[03:46:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:2) 02One more reason - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:46:55] <exec> 08└─From the description of how it gets installed and does its nefarious deeds, it sounds like this piece of shit is a problem on Windows, not Linux. Just one more reason that it is stupid to use that heap of shit in the first place.
[03:46:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Removed this a couple months ago. - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 878 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:46:57] <exec> 08└─It is quite clever, even bothering to disguise chrome to look like other browsers and even changing shortcuts so nothing looks amiss. Well, except the 70 or so ad-network malware programs running simultaneously. In the case I was working on* it kept downloading other stuff and was growing exponentia...
[03:47:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Solution - 06US Will Clean Area in Spain Where Hydrogen Bombs Fell - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:47:08] <exec> 08└─That's probably best. When we've finished poisoning the earth and the seas, that radioactive material will probably benefit the mutants. Give them a leg up on the long road of evolution, so that the earth can repopulate itself in 4 million years, instead of 20 or 40 million.
[03:47:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Awful stuff--but not the spookiest nuke incident - 06US Will Clean Area in Spain Where Hydrogen Bombs Fell - 636 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:47:10] <exec> 08└─In the Palomares incident, the conventional explosives in two of the four Mk28 warheads detonated on impact and scattered nasty shit in all directions. Probably caused a bunch of cancer cases. The built-in safeties did prevent the thermonuclear part from obliterating the town. ...then there's the Go...
[03:47:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Awful stuff--but not the spookiest nuke inciden - 06US Will Clean Area in Spain Where Hydrogen Bombs Fell - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:47:11] <exec> 08└─We have survived an age of insanity--so far.
[03:47:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 0250 years? - 06US Will Clean Area in Spain Where Hydrogen Bombs Fell - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:47:13] <exec> 08└─WTF? It was our bomb, our plane -- why in the world does it take 50 years to admit responsibility for our own accident and clean up our own mess.
[03:47:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:2) 02Re:Why - 06Let's Encrypt Authority X1 and Let's Encrypt Authority X2 Receive Cross-Signatures - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:47:40] <exec> 08└─Er, there are other free-as-in-beer certs. I have a few. The entire process of installation end-to-end is hell, and that is what I understand Let's Encrypt will fix. Anyway ... yeah, they gotta get it right. Does that mean they gotta dawdle? Is that written somewhere?
[03:48:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03pixeldyne [2637] (Score:2) 02Spot on - 06Tired of Waiting for Feds, New South Wales Mulls Extra Science for High Schoolers - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:48:07] <exec> 08└─Your analysis is spot on. In my case I was just really unlucky to have a very knowledgeable teacher with no social or education skills.
[03:49:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Only a matter of time... - 06Malware App Infects Ubuntu Phone - 1395 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:49:53] <exec> 08└─Not what I'm worried about. Hacking a server hosting a repo isn't nearly as dangerous as somebody with the rights to quietly commit a patchset. Packages are signed so anything other than the machine that signs packages means any damage is going to be limited. I'd suspect the more important distros...
[03:50:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:AOL? - 06CIA Director's AOL Account Allegedly Pwned - 879 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:50:58] <exec> 08└─"if you can't protect it, don't collect it". cia director can't even protect his own fucking email addr (aol, no less). do we have ANY confidence in this organization? fuck no. not me. I am offended that they assigned themselves world spy abilities and yet can't even know enough to AVOID a public (...
[03:51:03] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:false flag - 06CIA Director's AOL Account Allegedly Pwned - 654 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:51:03] <exec> 08└─What, you're saying they're making the argument "Our director was a moron who had his email pwned by a reasonably smart kid, so clearly we are the best use for more funding"? I'm voting Hanlon's Razor on this - never attribute to malice what can be easily explained by stupidity. It's doubly stupid w...
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[04:46:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2, Insightful) 02This Comment Is On-Topic - 06Is It Still Possible to Do Phone Phreaking? Yes, With Android on LTE - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:46:47] <exec> 08└─+1, Informative
[04:46:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:This Comment Is On-Topic - 06Is It Still Possible to Do Phone Phreaking? Yes, With Android on LTE - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:46:49] <exec> 08└─To paraphrase something I heard long ago: "Whatever man have wrought, can be hacked".
[04:46:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This Comment Is On-Topic - 06Is It Still Possible to Do Phone Phreaking? Yes, With Android on LTE - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:46:50] <exec> 08└─your mindhack has no cyberpower here
[04:46:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:4, Touché) 02google should be ashamed - 06Is It Still Possible to Do Phone Phreaking? Yes, With Android on LTE - 1257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:46:52] <exec> 08└─yes, I keep beating on google. look, if they weren't such dicks, there, acting all superior and 'smarter than thou' I would not be so hard on them. but when you sell yourself as the smartest people in the world (they constantly imply that) then I have no pity when their shit blows up. instead of foc...
[04:47:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:One more reason - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:47:04] <exec> 08└─...it is stupid to use that heap of shit in the first place.
[04:47:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:One more reason - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 560 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:47:05] <exec> 08└─You'd be surprised. The latest version of Firefox crashed every 5 seconds on my version of Ubuntu, and even though I had disabled the updates in the about:config and menu settings, I had accidentally upgraded my previously functional version to the latest unusable version using the apt-get update/up...
[04:47:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Removed this a couple months ago. - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:47:08] <exec> 08└─Lusers have also grown very accustomed to have their settings and customizations fucked with at every turn when a so called update automatically installs itself, you can't blame for not noticing anymore at this point.
[04:47:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Removed this a couple months ago. - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 2170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:47:10] <exec> 08└─Trying to teach computer security to monied people seems a lot like trying to keep a moth out of a flame. It has the wings to carry it in, and it seems determined to fly right into the fire. I have similar problems trying to keep my cats in my own backyard, as I know coyotes are nearby. Ask any dad...
[04:47:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Removed this a couple months ago. - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:47:11] <exec> 08└─Humm...which "cloud" did they store the data in? Google drive? Some other "secure" cloud storage, or the eFast cloud?
[04:47:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Overheard at Google Chrome HQ - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:47:13] <exec> 08└─"They can't do that to our customers! Only WE can do that to our customers!"
[04:47:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:50 years? - 06US Will Clean Area in Spain Where Hydrogen Bombs Fell - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:47:26] <exec> 08└─Gotta look super tough, can't let the russkies see us make such a blunder. Never underestimate the power of human ego... Every country does it, every person does it. We are STILL doing it.
[04:47:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:50 years? - 06US Will Clean Area in Spain Where Hydrogen Bombs Fell - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:47:27] <exec> 08└─And all the other "civilized" nations are still too chickenshit to stand up to us and our interests.
[04:47:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't get it - 06Let's Encrypt Authority X1 and Let's Encrypt Authority X2 Receive Cross-Signatures - 1214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:48:00] <exec> 08└─There's currently three discrete levels of identification offered by TLS certificates in present usage. The lowest level is self-signed, which ensures only that your entire session is with the same party (could in theory be used to ensure all future sessions are with the same party, but no implement...
[04:48:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Wrong way - 06Tired of Waiting for Feds, New South Wales Mulls Extra Science for High Schoolers - 1136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:48:27] <exec> 08└─My last Physics professor was an MIT grad and knew both math and physics like the back of his hand. He also had real-world experience in a variety of fields. Too bad he couldn't teach worth shit. Needlessly expanding problems across multiple boards making unnecessary derivations of derivations of de...
[04:48:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Is Music Still Taught In The Schools? - 06Tired of Waiting for Feds, New South Wales Mulls Extra Science for High Schoolers - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:48:29] <exec> 08└─Literature? Poetry? Art? What of our culture?
[04:49:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Star Wars 7 - 06Films - "Back to the Future" Day - 21 Oct, and "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:49:05] <exec> 08└─http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-34583416 [bbc.com]
[04:49:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Star Wars 7 - 06Films - "Back to the Future" Day - 21 Oct, and "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" - 1051 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:49:06] <exec> 08└─A conspiracy of Jews using the latest Star-Wars film as race-mixing propaganda to dilute the pure White race into a more-easily-controlled underclass? Not so much -- the answer, simply, is that forced diversity in media sells more shit to more people. That minorities have more equal representation,...
[04:49:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:New Star Wars title still annoys me - 06Films - "Back to the Future" Day - 21 Oct, and "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:49:18] <exec> 08└─From the latest trailer it seems that the main characters have been subject to a little historical revisionism, with jedi and the events of the previous movies regarded as rumors. Then Han Solo fills them in. That could explain the title.
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[07:19:07] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] 02google should be ashamed - 06Is It Still Possible to Do Phone Phreaking? Yes, With Android on LTE - 1257 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:19:07] <exec> 08└─yes, I keep beating on google. look, if they weren't such dicks, there, acting all superior and 'smarter than thou' I would not be so hard on them. but when you sell yourself as the smartest people in the world (they constantly imply that) then I have no pity when their shit blows up. instead of foc...
[07:19:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:google should be ashamed - 06Is It Still Possible to Do Phone Phreaking? Yes, With Android on LTE - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:19:10] <exec> 08└─What the hell does this have to do with this story? The story isn't even about flaws in Andorid, but rather weaknesses in VOLTE. You can exploit them with any SIP client.
[07:19:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02But who cares anymore? - 06Is It Still Possible to Do Phone Phreaking? Yes, With Android on LTE - 675 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:19:11] <exec> 08└─Nationwide calling is free on most plans, and so is international calling over wifi or even over LTE on some carriers, and video calling is also free. So who exactly is going to Phreak phones to TALK to someone. Hell we don't even TALK when its free, why would we fart around with phreaking? We text,...
[07:19:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:One more reason - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:19:26] <exec> 08└─...it is stupid to use that heap of shit in the first place.
[07:19:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Re:One more reason - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:19:28] <exec> 08└─Isn't it possible to 'lock' program versions in 'buntu these days, or are they using a package manager that lacks the feature now?
[07:19:32] <crutchy> ~deop
[07:19:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Overheard at Google Chrome HQ - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:19:35] <exec> 08└─Probably apt, but chrome users are not customers, they're products being sold to google's actual customers.
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[07:19:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:isostop - 06US Will Clean Area in Spain Where Hydrogen Bombs Fell - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:19:43] <exec> 08└─Or is it americium and an isotope of plutonium?
[07:19:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Solution - 06US Will Clean Area in Spain Where Hydrogen Bombs Fell - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:19:47] <exec> 08└─Ummm, where do you think this radioactive material came from in the first place? Was it perhaps extracted from dispersed soils ? Would not dispersing it widely to the ocean floor be the best solution? Or do you have a safer place for it? Maybe re-refine it, perhaps? Make new bombs perhaps?
[07:19:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Solution - 06US Will Clean Area in Spain Where Hydrogen Bombs Fell - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:19:49] <exec> 08└─I think what you are looking for is https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[07:19:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:50 years? - 06US Will Clean Area in Spain Where Hydrogen Bombs Fell - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:19:54] <exec> 08└─I will give them this: standing up to the US will incur severe economic penalties, possibly military. When your people suffer and your explanation is moral superiority / sense of duty... yeah... oddly that is the quicker route to getting a lynch mob than directly robbing the people and lying about i...
[07:20:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Special - 06Orionid Meteor Shower - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:20:02] <exec> 08└─The Orionids are special, being the remnants of Haley's. Mark Twain was born in a Haley's year, and died on one. I, for one, will be rising early, and praying for clear skies.
[07:20:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Light pollution :-( - 06Orionid Meteor Shower - 586 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:20:04] <exec> 08└─When I was growing up here as a kid in the 80s & early 90s, I could see a lot of stars just by looking up... There weren't as many as in photos taken in the middle of nowhere, but enough to identify basic constellations, and definitely enough to see comets or meteor showers. I've started noticing re...
[07:20:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Why - 06Let's Encrypt Authority X1 and Let's Encrypt Authority X2 Receive Cross-Signatures - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:20:27] <exec> 08└─What makes you think its slow? It just started actual work in June-ish? Its not like anyone else has gotten their brand new certs off the ground and into every browser any quicker.
[07:20:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't get it - 06Let's Encrypt Authority X1 and Let's Encrypt Authority X2 Receive Cross-Signatures - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:20:30] <exec> 08└─Nobody checks those Extended Validation certificates, though. So just like the regular one only certifies that you are actually connected to badguys.com, the EV one only certifies that you really are doing business with Bad Guys inc. Plus, neither handles the case where Good Guys ltd goes bankrupt,...
[07:24:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:thanks dick heads. - 06All Drones in U.S. to Require Federal Registration - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:24:15] <exec> 08└─Are you okay with the police using these machines?
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[08:18:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:1, Redundant) 02Rather than solar-powered electric lighting - 06A Look Inside the Lowline, New York City’s First Underground Park - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:18:52] <exec> 08└─Use funnel-shaped mirrors to gather sunlight into fiber optic, then run that fiber optic into your home, office or indoor garden.
[08:18:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03gtomorrow [2230] (Score:1) 02"It vill not be difficult, mein fuhrer!..." - 06A Look Inside the Lowline, New York City’s First Underground Park - 405 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:18:53] <exec> 08└─To paraphrase... "Mr. President, we must not allow a trolley terminal gap!" All joking aside, while it's an interesting idea and probably workable for underground agriculture, judging by the photos it seems a hair...depressing. I couldn't foresee passing an afternoon there, especially when (in this...
[08:19:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:2) 02Re:Light pollution :-( - 06Orionid Meteor Shower - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:59] <exec> 08└─I live in a big city and when I visit my relatives in the mountains the first thing I usually see when I step out of the train station is the huge amount of stars that are visible there. I remember when I was a knee-high kid, me and my friend once stared at the night sky trying to envision infinity...
[08:20:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why - 06Let's Encrypt Authority X1 and Let's Encrypt Authority X2 Receive Cross-Signatures - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:23] <exec> 08└─A couple months for a whole certificate CA getting blessed by the appropriate bureaucratic bodies seems pretty good to me, but I've had to deal with bureaucracy.
[08:26:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02He's a clueless figurehead with no experience! - 06Canada Does an About Face (Elects Liberal Majority Government) - 958 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:26:57] <exec> 08└─Trudeau voted FOR C-51: http://www.torontosun.com [torontosun.com] Once he gets an earful from the climate scientists his hair will turn white and he'll snug their gags back tight and crank up the do-nothing carbon tax. He won't get our oil industry...
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[09:18:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02The Fourteenth Amendment: equal protection - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:18:48] <exec> 08└─The Fourteenth Amendment guarantee of equal protection under the law has recently been applied with great success to get bails reduced or even eliminated. I can see how it could be used to reduce fines so they are proportionate to one's ability to pay.
[09:18:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:2, Insightful) 02THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:18:49] <exec> 08└─While I am all for a happy circle-jerk world in which everybody holds hands and dances under rainbows, I'd like to point out from their own website that the SPLC is just another authoritarian Ultra-Leftist [splcenter.org] American organization that equates free speech to "racism" and "xenophobia." T...
[09:18:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:18:51] <exec> 08└─Looks like Ethanol_fueled will be donating some blood! I just feel sorry for the poor bastard they put it into! I hope they do test Ethanol levels of blood obtained by legal coercion.
[09:18:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02A kidney for a major infarction? - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 867 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:18:53] <exec> 08└─We started off allowing a federal income tax to "pay for the Civil war". If we tolerate mandatory contributions of parts of one's body ( you will still live sans a pint of blood... you can live on one kidney ), where can this go? A pint of blood seems minor. The ramifications of where this can go...
[09:18:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Why not donate sperm instead? - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:18:54] <exec> 08└─Pay the bill with a fresh cup off...err never mind. Nothing to see here.
[09:18:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Why not donate sperm instead? - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:18:56] <exec> 08└─You'd have to be a right wanker to do that
[09:18:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:3, Interesting) 02What am I missing? - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 808 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:18:58] <exec> 08└─Let's assume that the fines owed are proper and correct. If that's not the case, then we have a different problem. Under that assumption, I'm not seeing the problem. The fines are owed. The court can demand payment. This judge knew that the fines were difficult for some people, but waiving the fines...
[09:19:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02A Submission Suggestion - 06New Mathematical Method Reveals Structure in Neural Activity in the Brain - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:19:04] <exec> 08└─Don't submit links you do not, at least conceptually, understand. Otherwise you get post like this, a PR blurb about some magic math.
[09:19:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:One more reason - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 493 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:19:42] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but my point was that when you "lock" it in Windows, it doesn't update. When you "lock" it in Linux, it will still update with apt-get update unless you also "lock" it in the package manager. But by the time you find out, it's too late, then you have to download debs and/or do a bunch of shit...
[09:19:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:One more reason - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:19:44] <exec> 08└─Yes, it is.
[09:19:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Installers - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:19:52] <exec> 08└─From TFA: "How does eFast Browser install itself in the first place? Apparently, it’s just another Potentially Unwanted Program that sneaks itself into software installers." There's your problem right there. It's increasingly rare to find installers without all kinds of crap. Even for software tha...
[09:22:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondrake [2658] (Score:2) 02this again - 06The Real Reason Germs Spread in the Winter - 524 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:22:39] <exec> 08└─This story pops up every couple of years. It has actually been known for quite a while that dry air helps distribute the virus, but it cannot be the only explanation. For example [scienceblogs.com], in the tropics, the flu most often occurs during the rainy season, which (obviously) not when the air...
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[13:37:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Pork - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:39] <exec> 08└─Someone else wants a piece of the pork...
[13:37:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Ahhh, government in action - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:41] <exec> 08└─So they're going to spend $2 to figure out how to save $1. When I was a kid (60s) my dad worked for the government. He had several mechanical pencils, every one was stamped "Property US Government". As an impressionable kid I thought it was the biggest waste of money I'd seen.
[13:37:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:Ahhh, government in action - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:42] <exec> 08└─Ah yeah. The great expense of putting text on pencils. Certainly not a thing every single pencil sold on the private market already has for branding's sake. I've got 3 different writing instruments within arm's reach right now, and every single one of them has my company's name stamped on them somew...
[13:37:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Ahhh, government in action - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 726 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:44] <exec> 08└─And I suspect it won't even save $1. It might, if they're lucky, break even. My money's on it costing them more. Centralising things that can be done locally is rarely a win unless there's an economy of scale that can be exploited, and no logistical downside. 10 computers from HP, or whoever's been...
[13:37:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What will the govt end up standardizing on? - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:45] <exec> 08└─It's the White House for crying out loud..... Dumb terminals, of course.
[13:37:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03gidds [589] (Score:2) 02ObDilbert - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:47] <exec> 08└─"We've got to centralise to be more efficient." One year later: "We've got to decentralise to remove the bottlenecks." Rinse and repeat [secretgeek.net].
[13:37:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Funny) 02Stunning. - 06Warming Opens Famed Northwest Passage to Navigation - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:54] <exec> 08└─It's almost beautiful the way we will leverage retreating icecaps for more efficient fossil fuel transport.
[13:37:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Farkus888 [5159] (Score:2) 02Re:Stunning. - 06Warming Opens Famed Northwest Passage to Navigation - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:55] <exec> 08└─Clearly global warming is self correcting.
[13:38:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02I'm a little teapot - 06First Report of Gaping Security Flaws in Internet of Things Device - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:02] <exec> 08└─Short and stout Here is my handle Here is my cock
[13:38:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Mother of God! - 06First Report of Gaping Security Flaws in Internet of Things Device - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:04] <exec> 08└─Save time and remote boil from anywhere in the house.
[13:38:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02complete lack of wisdom - 06First Report of Gaping Security Flaws in Internet of Things Device - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:06] <exec> 08└─once again, humans act before thinking. its amazing the species has survived this long.
[13:38:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02I'm not surprised ... - 06First Report of Gaping Security Flaws in Internet of Things Device - 875 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:08] <exec> 08└─Programming is easy. You throw code at the wall until it sticks and ship it. Engineering, on the other hand, is hard. You have to make sure you handle all your use cases, fail safely, don't leak data, etc. You do that before you even touch a line of code, and make sure its peer reviewed, and signed...
[13:38:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02HTCPCP - 06First Report of Gaping Security Flaws in Internet of Things Device - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:09] <exec> 08└─Ah, I've found the problem! It's not RFC 2324 [ietf.org] compliant!
[13:38:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:19] <exec> 08└─They tried, but the samples I gave blew up their machinery. But seriously, this is a P.R. attempt to frame the SPLC as being knights in shining armor akin to the EFF or ACLU. SPLC is a Trojan Horse. Care about human rights? Support those organizations that fight to preserve them. Like all organizati...
[13:38:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:20] <exec> 08└─I'm not following you. What does this have to do with speech? Take a hard look at yourself, man. Are you seriously siding with abuse of state power because you don't like the politics of one party who happens to be complaining about it? You need to climb down off your partisan horse and recognize wh...
[13:38:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:22] <exec> 08└─More like the Southern Poverty LOL Center, amirite? ...I'll let myself out now.
[13:38:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 494 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:23] <exec> 08└─On the one hand, yes, some of what the SPLC opposes falls under free speech (e.g. racist song lyrics). On the other hand, most of the groups that it monitors are very explicitly racists or religious bigots (e.g. local chapters of the KKK or Aryan Nation). And while being a member of these groups or...
[13:38:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Vanderhoth [61] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 701 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:25] <exec> 08└─Accept they've basically been handed a license to decided what is and isn't hate speech. So if you disagree with ultra-left politics (and I'm a liberal), they label you as part of a conservative right-wing hate group. Which seems to give a lot of REALLY hateful people a free license to go after you,...
[13:38:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:27] <exec> 08└─I'm pretty sure this post is hate speech. Hold on... New entry: vanderhoth This person is obviously a bigot and also a terrorist. He leaves comments full of hate speech on a Linux supremacist website known as 'Soylent Blues'. Stay away at all costs!
[13:38:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:28] <exec> 08└─Racism and xenophobia are free speech. The SPLC has also identified some Christian denominations that use evidence from Genesis to prove that slavery is their god's will and that blacks are an inferior race. I don't see the problem here.
[13:38:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03DancesWithRobots [3810] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re: A kidney for a major infarction? - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:30] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jigsaw_Man [wikipedia.org]
[13:38:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:3, Touché) 02Intentional misspelling? - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:32] <exec> 08└─Infarction vs. infraction. Can't losing too much blood cause a heart attack?
[13:38:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bradley13 [3053] 02What am I missing? - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 808 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:33] <exec> 08└─Let's assume that the fines owed are proper and correct. If that's not the case, then we have a different problem. Under that assumption, I'm not seeing the problem. The fines are owed. The court can demand payment. This judge knew that the fines were difficult for some people, but waiving the fines...
[13:38:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:What am I missing? - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:35] <exec> 08└─One problem is that we only have so many hematopoietic stem cells and they tend to leave the bone marrow and move around in the blood stream so giving blood could possibly shorten your life and expedite aging symptoms.
[13:38:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What am I missing? - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:37] <exec> 08└─citation needed
[13:38:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03iwoloschin [3863] (Score:2) 02Re:What am I missing? - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:38] <exec> 08└─Citation please?
[13:38:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What am I missing? - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:40] <exec> 08└─Citation needed, Also did you read the post you replied to? THIS WAS ENTIRELY OPTIONAL! If you believe that giving blood will reduce your lifespan, then pay the damn fine.
[13:38:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:What am I missing? - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 760 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:42] <exec> 08└─Assuming it was entirely optional and there was no overt pressure, then I'm leaning towards viewing this as just another form of community service - providing those found guilty with another option for making amends; instead of a combination of jail, fines, and more traditional community service(s),...
[13:38:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:What am I missing? - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 630 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:43] <exec> 08└─This. If the fines are owed and legal, then it's the judiciary branch's responsibility to oversee collecting of those fines. In this instance, they chose to widen the possibilities for paying a fine. Don't like that option? No problem: you'll just fall under the old regime. An alternative headline,...
[13:38:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Discriminatory - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 1821 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:45] <exec> 08└─It's discriminatory. Some religions cannot give blood. Whether you agree with that or not, that's discrimination based on their religion. It's a physical violation - without due cause, you're saying that a physical violation can be accepted in lieu of cash. That's not acceptable. If you have to viol...
[13:38:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:Discriminatory - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:46] <exec> 08└─Now if the victim and the perpetrator themselves came to a similar sort of agreement (i.e. "Don't pay me back, but prove you've donated blood / helped a charity / cut an old person's lawn for them, I'll accept that as recompense"), even in court, that's up to them.
[13:38:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02NOT Discrimnatory - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:48] <exec> 08└─Religious objection is arbitrary, and therefore discrimination against religion is meaningless.
[13:38:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:NOT Discrimnatory - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:50] <exec> 08└─Religious objection might be superstitious, reactionary, bigoted, pig-headed and stupid. But for sincere believers it's far from arbitrary.
[13:38:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:NOT Discrimnatory - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:51] <exec> 08└─You cannot accommodate every crazies out there, and they multiply.
[13:38:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Discriminatory - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:53] <exec> 08└─"It's unprecedented - a judge out to know better than to attempt such things." No history knowledge at all, there used to the old join the army or go to jail sentencing IMHO way worse than this would ever be...
[13:38:54] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Dunbal [3515] 02Unintended consequences - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 809 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:55] <exec> 08└─What about when the blood bank has to clean up all that contaminated blood. As a blood transfusion recipient I have been given CMV (Cytomegalovirus) and Epstein-Barr virus. Other people have received worse things (like HIV). I guess it's better than dying which is what would have happened if I had n...
[13:38:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Unintended consequences - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:56] <exec> 08└─That's what ultimately killed Isaac Asimov. They gave him what turned out to be HIV-contaminated blood when he underwent bypass surgery, and his subsequent death from renal and heart failure some years later was HIV-related. I take it they're more careful these days but I take it some blood banks ar...
[13:38:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Unintended consequences - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 628 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:58] <exec> 08└─A bigger problem is the blood bank/center that sells freely given blood to hospitals, or that charges in any way. This is a big problem locally. Orgs that give it away have no financial motivation to contaminate the blood bank so they don't. From memory last time I donated they survey the crap out o...
[13:38:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score:3, Informative) 02Public health reasons against - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 1200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:59] <exec> 08└─It is a matter of statistical record that poorer people have worse health. This will include increased prevalence of blood-borne diseases like HIV and Hepatitis C. Pressurising poor people to contribute blood to blood banks will simply increase the risk of people needing blood or blood products gett...
[13:39:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:4, Funny) 02Preposterous! - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:39:01] <exec> 08└─Asking for blood? who they think they are, the tax office?
[13:39:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Preposterous! - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:03] <exec> 08└─No, they think they are the municipal parking authority.
[13:39:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03compro01 [2515] (Score:2) 02They're doing fucking what? - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:39:04] <exec> 08└─Did this fucking moron of a judge ever hear about what happened in Arkansas when they tried shit like this? [wikipedia.org] If the people operating the clinic heard about this, they ought to have gone into his courtroom and started sticking some of their large needles into the judge's favourite body...
[13:39:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02the USA is unethical - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 430 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:39:06] <exec> 08└─I can't give blood. I'm legally male and I date men. It doesn't matter what my fucking body parts are (yes, literally my fucking body parts) unless I want to undergo some ultrasound dildo test to prove otherwise. You also mutilate genitals routinely and blame the victim when anything goes wrong. I d...
[13:39:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03garfiejas [2072] (Score:1) 02Article - 06New Mathematical Method Reveals Structure in Neural Activity in the Brain - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:39:07] <exec> 08└─Link: http://www.pnas.org [pnas.org] looks interesting but not had time to read it fully yet.
[13:39:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03aclarke [2049] (Score:2) 02Light tubes - 06A Look Inside the Lowline, New York City’s First Underground Park - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:09] <exec> 08└─I see you've already been marked redundant, but this is sort of what's happening in the park. We put a light tube [wikipedia.org] at the top of a stairway in a house we renovated. It made a HUGE difference in light. Even at night it would collect the moon's light and bathe the landing in a beautif...
[13:39:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:2) 02Re:"It vill not be difficult, mein fuhrer!..." - 06A Look Inside the Lowline, New York City’s First Underground Park - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:11] <exec> 08└─Dark it is and I wonder what the palm trees and pinapples will look like in a few weeks. But I think the concept is interesting and this could really work out well in winter. We used to grow dope indoors (only 3 or for plants) and just sitting under the sodium vapor lamp reading a book with sunglass...
[13:39:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:"It vill not be difficult, mein fuhrer!..." - 06A Look Inside the Lowline, New York City’s First Underground Park - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:13] <exec> 08└─...and just sitting under the sodium vapor lamp reading a book with sunglasses in the midst of winter was magnificent.
[13:39:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03aclarke [2049] (Score:2) 02New York in winter - 06A Look Inside the Lowline, New York City’s First Underground Park - 961 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:15] <exec> 08└─Remember that the photos are of a proof of concept. It's always going to be underground, but the final product will probably be more inviting than what we saw in the photos. Also, New York in the winter is a pretty dismal place. Actually, in my opinion, New York is just pretty dismal. In the winter,...
[13:39:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:But who cares anymore? - 06Is It Still Possible to Do Phone Phreaking? Yes, With Android on LTE - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:26] <exec> 08└─Ever heard of 900 numbers?
[13:39:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Someone's going to post it - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:37] <exec> 08└─Chrome is a memory attack. It keeps spawning new processes until your computer slows to a crawl from swapping.
[13:39:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Someone's going to post it - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:38] <exec> 08└─No one will ever need more than 128 gig of memory, right?
[13:39:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02In the kernel's eyes - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:40] <exec> 08└─/etc/rc lets you choose what movies to watch. systemd clamps a VR helmet loaded with gay scat films to your head.
[13:39:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Isn't this talking about Mozilla? - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:44] <exec> 08└─Distinguishing Chrome and Firefox is easy. Chrome: Sends your data to Google, but otherwise works well. Firefox: Breaks something with each new version.
[13:39:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Isn't this talking about Mozilla? - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:45] <exec> 08└─Because Firefox is now a Chrome clone, or because web browsers are now one step away from being malware?
[13:39:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:One more reason - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:52] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but my point was that when you "lock" it in Windows, it doesn't update. When you "lock" it in Linux, it will still update with apt-get update unless you also "lock" it in the package manager.
[13:39:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:One more reason - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:54] <exec> 08└─Simplest solution, I think: Uninstall the offending version. Download the gzipped version that you want from Mozilla. Unpack the zipped file into your home folder. Just click "firefox" in that folder. I *believe* that you can retroactively make apt-get uninstall this version, then install a specific...
[13:39:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03anubi [2828] 02Re:Removed this a couple months ago. - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 2170 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:57] <exec> 08└─Trying to teach computer security to monied people seems a lot like trying to keep a moth out of a flame. It has the wings to carry it in, and it seems determined to fly right into the fire. I have similar problems trying to keep my cats in my own backyard, as I know coyotes are nearby. Ask any dad...
[13:40:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Chrome lookalike - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:40:02] <exec> 08└─Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike
[13:40:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] (Score:2) 02Re:Solution - 06US Will Clean Area in Spain Where Hydrogen Bombs Fell - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:16] <exec> 08└─From Wikipedia [wikipedia.org]: "Most americium is produced by bombarding uranium or plutonium with neutrons in nuclear reactors" So: no, probably not extracted from dispersed soils.
[13:40:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:Awful stuff--but not the spookiest nuke inciden - 06US Will Clean Area in Spain Where Hydrogen Bombs Fell - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:19] <exec> 08└─Don't worry, gewg, nowadays we have to be afraid of islamic terrorists. So, that means all the cold war bombs have magically gone away in reality, as well as from our mind's eye. Right? P.S. have you heard of this guy Stanislav Yefgrafovich Petrov [wikipedia.org]?
[13:40:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondrake [2658] (Score:2) 02Re:50 years? - 06US Will Clean Area in Spain Where Hydrogen Bombs Fell - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:25] <exec> 08└─Well, I am sure there was some kind of deal involved now. The US cleans the area, and in exchange Spain will...probably agree to something nasty with trade agreement deals and such.
[13:40:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:50 years? - 06US Will Clean Area in Spain Where Hydrogen Bombs Fell - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:27] <exec> 08└─This one is only 35yrs old but it's not looking good either. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[13:40:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Light pollution :-( - 06Orionid Meteor Shower - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:38] <exec> 08└─we literally were rolling on the floor, laughing hysterically.
[13:41:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't get it - 06Let's Encrypt Authority X1 and Let's Encrypt Authority X2 Receive Cross-Signatures - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:07] <exec> 08└─That actually makes a heap of sense. Get rid of HTTP altogether. Show the unlocked padlock for self signed over HTTPS, but stop complaining about errors. Show normal secure padlock icons for real certs.
[13:41:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Senior Science? - 06Tired of Waiting for Feds, New South Wales Mulls Extra Science for High Schoolers - 402 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:21] <exec> 08└─The district I graduated from "solved" the problem by sending most of the kids to Geology class and a couple of the more adventurous tried first year bio. I never took geology but I'm told they mixed all three of the other sciences rather superficially into "rocks for jocks". Ironically I ended up r...
[13:42:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03bart9h [767] (Score:2) 02Re:A Few Amazing Things We Have Today, That They M - 06Films - "Back to the Future" Day - 21 Oct, and "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:24] <exec> 08└─AI? Laughable. We are a still waaaaay farther from AI than from flying cars.
[13:42:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Hype vs. Quality - 06Films - "Back to the Future" Day - 21 Oct, and "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" - 423 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:28] <exec> 08└─If the quality of a film is inversely proportional to the hype that precedes it, then the months of hype, media tie-ins, product placements I've been seeing everywhere for Star Wars don't bode well. Also, this is along the same lines for the build-up that preceded the prequels and we all know how th...
[13:42:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Drake_Edgewater [780] (Score:1) 02Great Scott! - 06Films - "Back to the Future" Day - 21 Oct, and "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:30] <exec> 08└─Dear Martin McFly, welcome to 2015! We know that Dr. Emmett Brown has been here before... oh wait (and I doubt that Martin's girlfriend enjoyed 2015 at all)
[13:43:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03present_arms [4392] (Score:2) 02Re:Hold on to logic for just one moment - 06Malware App Infects Ubuntu Phone - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:27] <exec> 08└─That's actually Ubuntus fault as sudo can indeed be made to have a separate password than that used by a user, and yes it's stupid to allow an elevated application use the same password as the user, as obviously if you crack the users password you basically have root permissions, It's one of the rea...
[13:45:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:invevitable, but maybe there's a compromise - 06All Drones in U.S. to Require Federal Registration - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:09] <exec> 08└─Given that you've not defined the "necessary ground", no number of words can cover it accurately.
[13:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:invevitable, but maybe there's a compromise - 06All Drones in U.S. to Require Federal Registration - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:13] <exec> 08└─> I'm an r/c flight hobbyist ... Look at the barrier of entry as the solution! After all the nay-sayers who have no skin in the game, it's nice to see support from someone who does have skin in the game.
[13:45:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:invevitable, but maybe there's a compromise - 06All Drones in U.S. to Require Federal Registration - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:15] <exec> 08└─Nope, I am not aware of them, at least at consumer-level prices, they haven't reached here yet. A quick google shows that they might be available from our richer neighbours in the west for about the 3000e level, which I don't consider a mass-market price at all, but google translate makes certainty...
[13:46:14] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03NCommander [2] 02Re:Why so many? - 06Ongoing Site Server Reboot Schedule [updated] - 744 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:46:14] <exec> 08└─Redundancy. With the exception of the load balancer, we can pull the plug on any machine, and the site stays up and functioning. At a minimium, that requires two web front-ends, and two databases. We've had machines go out of service for an extended period (hydrogen was down for an extended period r...
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[14:37:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:2) 02Another problem solved by Open source... - 06When a Dev Dies, Their Apps Should Live On - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:37:37] <exec> 08└─and another solution stymied by contracts with Apple.
[14:37:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02not FOSS - 06When a Dev Dies, Their Apps Should Live On - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:37:38] <exec> 08└─also concern that his work's availability was now potentially on borrowed time
[14:37:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:not FOSS - 06When a Dev Dies, Their Apps Should Live On - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:37:40] <exec> 08└─Someday hardware and operating system changes will slow down enough that the idea of a piece of software still being useful when its copyright term expires won't be completely absurd That day will not be in our lifetimes.
[14:37:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Same will happen to all of us - 06When a Dev Dies, Their Apps Should Live On - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:37:41] <exec> 08└─One poet put it better [online-literature.com] than most.
[14:37:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03eravnrekaree [555] (Score:1) 02Use GitHub - 06When a Dev Dies, Their Apps Should Live On - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:37:43] <exec> 08└─People should always put their stuff on GitHub, is just to avoid the chance they may forget to pay a hosting bill.
[14:37:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Pork - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:37:51] <exec> 08└─I would never expect them to be efficient. There's no competition, so there's no incentive for them to cut costs.
[14:37:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ikanreed [3164] 02Re:Ahhh, government in action - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 305 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:37:54] <exec> 08└─Ah yeah. The great expense of putting text on pencils. Certainly not a thing every single pencil sold on the private market already has for branding's sake. I've got 3 different writing instruments within arm's reach right now, and every single one of them has my company's name stamped on them somew...
[14:37:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillAdams [1424] (Score:1) 02Re:Ahhh, government in action - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:37:55] <exec> 08└─I remember my Dad's Skilcraft pens w/ great fondness --- great quality, long-lasting. More importantly, made by the blind and visually-impaired. I was glad to be able to (sort of) replace my Rotring Quattro w/ a Skilcraft multi-pen recently (though I miss having the 3rd pen function) and need to get...
[14:37:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03snick [1408] (Score:2) 02Re:Ahhh, government in action - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:37:57] <exec> 08└─Quit with your fact-based analysis. It is only waste when the government does it. Because ... reasons.
[14:37:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Ahhh, government in action - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 475 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:37:59] <exec> 08└─I agree. Most centralizing projects i've seen are merely land grabs and empire building. On paper they look more efficient money-wise but they never are. Now people have to work through the new red-tape to get things that use to be simple to get. Yes, it directly costs the organization less but how...
[14:38:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02So much for the CIO - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:38:01] <exec> 08└─The position is a resume-enhancer for someone who puts in 14 months, then off to a CEO job in Silicon valley.
[14:38:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Really? - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:38:03] <exec> 08└─Anyone who has ever seen the procurement process for any large governmental organisation (e.g. the UK NHS) knows what this means. You'll pay £10 for an AA battery so that you can get everything "from an approved supplier". And every "approved supplier" will play golf with the guy in charge of the s...
[14:38:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03snick [1408] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Really? - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:38:04] <exec> 08└─Anyone who has ever seen the procurement process for any large governmental^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H organisation (e.g. the UK NHS) knows what this means. You'll pay £10 for an AA battery so that you can get everything "from an approved supplier". And every "approved supplier" will play golf with th...
[14:38:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Spies - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:38:06] <exec> 08└─officials are forced to seek out their own contracts and purchase orders to get new
[14:38:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02military aspects - 06Warming Opens Famed Northwest Passage to Navigation - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:38:14] <exec> 08└─The naval aspects of this are interesting, I remember reading something about the Russians commenting about territorial waters. The seasonality is going to be really weird, you can ship crude or whatever 4000 nm quicker but only during northern hemisphere summer.
[14:38:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:complete lack of wisdom - 06First Report of Gaping Security Flaws in Internet of Things Device - 1292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:38:25] <exec> 08└─Considering how perfectly this product fills a much-needed gap in the market, its no real surprise that someone monumentally stupid enough to design such a pointless device should also fail at the much more demanding job of internet security. I mean, even if the device was some sort of automated tea...
[14:38:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03VanderDecken [5216] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm not surprised ... - 06First Report of Gaping Security Flaws in Internet of Things Device - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:38:27] <exec> 08└─Where I live it is illegal to use the word "engineer" in your title unless you are in fact a ring-knocking PEng. It removes a lot of confusion.
[14:38:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Stupid boys, stupid toys - 06First Report of Gaping Security Flaws in Internet of Things Device - 825 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:38:29] <exec> 08└─It amazes me that anyone takes a connected teapot seriously. It's a frigging TOY. It's a mindless bit of crap, prettied up and packaged for juveniles. Young juveniles at that - by the time a kid is 14, 15 years old, they should be past this kind of nonsense. "Oh, my teapot is cool, I can turn it off...
[14:38:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 494 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:38:44] <exec> 08└─On the one hand, yes, some of what the SPLC opposes falls under free speech (e.g. racist song lyrics). On the other hand, most of the groups that it monitors are very explicitly racists or religious bigots (e.g. local chapters of the KKK or Aryan Nation). And while being a member of these groups or...
[14:38:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Vanderhoth [61] 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 701 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:38:45] <exec> 08└─Accept they've basically been handed a license to decided what is and isn't hate speech. So if you disagree with ultra-left politics (and I'm a liberal), they label you as part of a conservative right-wing hate group. Which seems to give a lot of REALLY hateful people a free license to go after you,...
[14:38:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 692 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:38:47] <exec> 08└─I have a very hard time believing that you're a liberal if you're talking about the SPLC like that. That's the kind of thing that the GOP says about the SPLC because it's easier than admitting that they're in bed with hate groups. If you're going to claim that people and groups are being listed for...
[14:38:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 926 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:38:49] <exec> 08└─You should take another look at SPLC. They monitor damned near everyone and everything. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] "The SPLC counted 1,007 groups as active hate groups in the United States in 2012....
[14:38:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:38:51] <exec> 08└─I don't see any anti-Jewish groups listed.
[14:38:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 603 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:38:53] <exec> 08└─Indeed, the SPLC does good work in an area that's really tough to monitor. I'm not surprised that people get taken in by these hate groups as the membership tends to skew smart. They have some rather sophisticated arguments about why what they're doing is not just not bigoted, but why you'd be an id...
[14:38:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 461 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:38:54] <exec> 08└─> On the one hand, yes, some of what the SPLC opposes falls under free speech (e.g. racist song lyrics). Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from criticism. The SPLC is not pushing to make their speech illegal. It is judging them on the content of their speech. That is, in fact, a bedrock princi...
[14:38:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Precious few - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:38:56] <exec> 08└─There are precious few people who understand that. It seems that 3/4 or more people in the US actually believe the crap that SPLC publishes. I'd like to see those arse wipes choke on a chicken bone.
[14:38:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03pendorbound [2688] (Score:2) 02Re:Why not donate sperm instead? - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:39:00] <exec> 08└─Hey! No discrimination here! Lefties are welcome too!
[14:39:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why not donate sperm instead? - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:39:02] <exec> 08└─But I'm left handed...
[14:39:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Why not donate sperm instead? - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:39:04] <exec> 08└─Righteous wanker, you mean. Got any idea how much time, and how many calories you'd burn to get a cup? The thought is kinda scary.
[14:39:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What am I missing? - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:39:08] <exec> 08└─> Also did you read the post you replied to? THIS WAS ENTIRELY OPTIONAL! Did you read the story? For someone who is broke the choice between jail time and giving blood is so heavily coercive that it is 'optional' in name only.
[14:39:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:What am I missing? - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 1298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:39:12] <exec> 08└─From the story, it seems that some people felt coerced. The sense of coercion was evident enough that the blood bank discarded the blood given. It seems that a backwoods judge just decided to do this all on his own, without conferring with members of the bar, without guidance from lawmakers. He summ...
[14:39:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What am I missing? - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 450 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:39:14] <exec> 08└─> What am I missing - I'm not seeing the problem here? Moral hazard. Not everything of value can be properly denominated in dollars. It is the same reason we don't permit people to sell organs. At best this is right up against the edge of morality. From the article, at least one prisoner passed out...
[14:39:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jiro [3176] (Score:2) 02Re:What am I missing? - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:39:16] <exec> 08└─This was entirely optional; the people could still just pay their fines.
[14:39:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:NOT Discrimnatory - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:39:20] <exec> 08└─> You cannot accommodate every crazies out there, and they multiply. That you equate religion with craziness reveals more about your disconnect from the human experience than anything else. Just because your life hasn't included religion doesn't make the billions of religious people in the world cra...
[14:39:22] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03RedGreen [888] 02Re:Discriminatory - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 210 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:39:23] <exec> 08└─"It's unprecedented - a judge out to know better than to attempt such things." No history knowledge at all, there used to the old join the army or go to jail sentencing IMHO way worse than this would ever be...
[14:39:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:2) 02Re:Discriminatory - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 723 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:39:24] <exec> 08└─I don't give blood anymore but this hardly discriminatory. Every activity can only be performed by a subset of the population, including breathing. To say that any of those activities will benefit you if done is discriminatory to those who can't do it is life. Life is unfair and harsh, equality does...
[14:39:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Unintended consequences - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:39:26] <exec> 08└─It gets even better when you find out how blood is pooled together so one contaminated sample contaminates the lot. Which means if you're selling you lose even more when you create a bad batch. But hey, Peanut Butter factories have no problem selling you Salmonella, car manufacturers have no problem...
[14:39:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Public health reasons against - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 636 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:39:28] <exec> 08└─"not everyone has the poper health status" That too. I gave blood dozens of times, no problem at all at all. There was an emergency blood drive, in which they brought the blood mobile out to the job site. I wasn't feeling 100% - not really sick or anything, but not really up to snuff. Maybe I had a...
[14:39:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:2) 02HPS - 06A Look Inside the Lowline, New York City’s First Underground Park - 462 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:39:50] <exec> 08└─Now, when you put it that way, I have to admit I never thought about that before. The lamp could of course not have been mono spectral, that would not make any sense at all. But the light was also very yellow and the lamp emitted a lot of heat, so maybe it was a high pressure sodium (HPS) lamp (wiki...
[14:40:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:But who cares anymore? - 06Is It Still Possible to Do Phone Phreaking? Yes, With Android on LTE - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:40:06] <exec> 08└─there are still phone numbers that charge to call - if they can get your phone to call their number, willingly or not, you will be charged. The problem is there is no liability for the companies for their really slow updates. Anyone would think they were mining the updates like bitcoins...
[14:40:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Someone's going to post it - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:40:19] <exec> 08└─I think it was "640G out to be enough for anyone".
[14:40:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Someone's going to post it - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:40:21] <exec> 08└─It was 640K. Now get off my lawn.
[14:40:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Someone's going to post it - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:40:23] <exec> 08└─WAS 640k - gotta keep up with the times, unless you've atrophied. That's why I like coming here to argue with people - it keeps my mind active. Now, YOU get offa MY lawn.
[14:40:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Isn't this talking about Mozilla? - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:40:29] <exec> 08└─Not the AC you're replying to, but both.
[14:40:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:One more reason - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:40:37] <exec> 08└─You are right. But i'd like to point out that the only reason browsers self-update is because windows lacks a package manager. Browsers were forced to build their own updating channel and now that they have it they won't want to give it up.
[14:41:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:50 years? - 06US Will Clean Area in Spain Where Hydrogen Bombs Fell - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:41:12] <exec> 08└─What does that have to do with anything, the flight you were talking about did not crash due to an accident, was not carrying nuclear bombs, did not involve Spain or the US.
[14:41:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jiro [3176] (Score:2) 02What - 06US Will Clean Area in Spain Where Hydrogen Bombs Fell - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:41:13] <exec> 08└─As pointed out in the Slashdot comments, the idea that this "narrowly averted" a bigger than Hiroshima nuclear explosion is ludicrous.
[14:41:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Light pollution :-( - 06Orionid Meteor Shower - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:41:26] <exec> 08└─Damn. Couldn't see jack. Clear Southern California night sky, obscured by all the street lights.
[14:41:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03xorsyst [1372] (Score:1) 02Re:Good start - 06Let's Encrypt Authority X1 and Let's Encrypt Authority X2 Receive Cross-Signatures - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:41:46] <exec> 08└─I get the same on Palemoon 25.7.3 (x64), which it tells me is the latest version.
[14:41:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't get it - 06Let's Encrypt Authority X1 and Let's Encrypt Authority X2 Receive Cross-Signatures - 506 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:41:57] <exec> 08└─This suggestion seems to appear on pretty much every thread about HTTPS, and I don't understand why it's not done. It's called opportunistic encryption [wikipedia.org]. HTTP/2 included some proposals for it, including one that Firefox implemented for a time... but it had a bug that allowed padlock s...
[14:45:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03ticho [89] (Score:2) 02Re:false flag - 06CIA Director's AOL Account Allegedly Pwned - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:28] <exec> 08└─Why not? The director gets an official slap on the wrist, followed by an unofficial bonus by playing his part well. He is up there in years and will likely retire soon anyway, so what does he care? In the meantime, an invented "hacker" gives out "interview" for Wired, and the general public remains...
[14:46:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:invevitable, but maybe there's a compromise - 06All Drones in U.S. to Require Federal Registration - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:03] <exec> 08└─After all the nay-sayers who have no skin in the game, it's nice to see support from someone who does have skin in the game.
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[15:37:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score:2) 02Re:not FOSS - 06When a Dev Dies, Their Apps Should Live On - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:37:43] <exec> 08└─That implies copyrights in force now will ever expire. Disney is effectively immortal, and has a bajillion dollar lobbying budget to make sure Steamboat Willie never falls into the public domain.
[15:37:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:not FOSS - 06When a Dev Dies, Their Apps Should Live On - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:37:44] <exec> 08└─Disney is effectively immortal
[15:37:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Same will happen to all of us - 06When a Dev Dies, Their Apps Should Live On - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:37:47] <exec> 08└─Well...that was deep...
[15:37:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillAdams [1424] (Score:1) 02Re:Same will happen to all of us - 06When a Dev Dies, Their Apps Should Live On - 483 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:37:48] <exec> 08└─Isaac Newton put it better: http://www.brainyquote.com [brainyquote.com] >If I have seen further than others, it is by standing upon the shoulders of giants. ---Isaac Newton We owe it to posterity to ensure that everything which we have learned is available to t...
[15:37:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02I have to disagree - 06When a Dev Dies, Their Apps Should Live On - 659 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:37:50] <exec> 08└─I'm not even dead, and nothing I've done in my career is still in use that I know of. One framework-like thing I wrote is still in use, but it's been rewritten from the inside out several times and I doubt one line of code I wrote is still in it. All that low-level C code I wrote paid the bills, but...
[15:37:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:2) 0272dpiarmy - 06When a Dev Dies, Their Apps Should Live On - 2825 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:37:52] <exec> 08└─Super Mario War (of dubious legality anyway, but still a great project) suffered from this. Florian, Founder and Leader, died and the project stalled along with him. It's not the first time I've seen it happen on a project. Even illness can cause a complete deadlock in the system that a project migh...
[15:37:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"sic" not needed - 06When a Dev Dies, Their Apps Should Live On - 346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:37:54] <exec> 08└─When it is an obvious block copy-and-paste, you don't need to insert a sic. The fact that it is a copy/paste makes it clear enough that it isn't an error in transcription. It would have been appropriate if you were quoting it by typing it in yourself, such as by saying, "Mr. So-and-so said 'But thos...
[15:37:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Why is this even relevant? - 06When a Dev Dies, Their Apps Should Live On - 629 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:37:55] <exec> 08└─When I'm dead, there is no pride left to be flattered by any software living on. Those close to me will probably not miss my software but rather my personality. (Or, maybe, feel relieved by its absence. Depends.) Software is all the time abandoned and rewritten. If it is meant to be used by public i...
[15:38:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ahhh, government in action - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:38:06] <exec> 08└─Skilcraft still being made and still made by the handicapped.
[15:38:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Ahhh, government in action - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:38:08] <exec> 08└─Yes, but $snappyRetort
[15:38:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Ahhh, government in action - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:38:12] <exec> 08└─You are missing the opportunity to standardize the "security" aka snooping software.
[15:38:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What will the govt end up standardizing on? - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:38:14] <exec> 08└─I hear the NSA has lots of computing power. So they could just run all those programs on their computers, right? :-)
[15:38:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:Really? - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:38:20] <exec> 08└─You think that's bad, imagine the procurement process at the Vatican. They have 2 millennia's worth of accumulated bureaucracy. Not like the old days, when St. Peter would just hand you a wad of bills and say "make sure you get a receipt".
[15:38:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:4, Funny) 02Deals - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:38:22] <exec> 08└─Nah they can get a great deal like my wife's Fortune 500 company and get some Apple products for ABOVE market value. Why pay retail when you can pay more! Long live purchasing power. Hey if I buy an extra 2k units can you guys raise the price another 10%?
[15:38:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Deals - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:38:23] <exec> 08└─But you're saving money because you certainly would have found someone willing to sell it to you for even more! ;-)
[15:38:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Of course it will be corrupt - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 716 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:38:25] <exec> 08└─Of course this is so they can have one huge corrupt deal instead of many. This is the government we are talking about right? If they weren't already totally invested in Windows I'd bet serious money a huge Apple contract is coming but nah, even Obama can't pull that one off since he needs the drones...
[15:38:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Admiral Byrd - 06Warming Opens Famed Northwest Passage to Navigation - 726 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:38:35] <exec> 08└─Admiral Byrd warned us we need to be ready to fight the blueskins when this happens: “Adm. Byrd declared today that it was imperative for the United States to initiate immediate defence measures against hostile regions. The admiral further stated that he didn’t want to frighten anyone unduly but...
[15:38:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Nothing really new... - 06Warming Opens Famed Northwest Passage to Navigation - 775 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:38:37] <exec> 08└─It's kind of inconvenient for the AGW message, but the Northwest Passage does open up periodically. The Northwest Passage was apparently open for three years in the 1940s [nationalgeographic.com]. It was open at least briefly in 1957, when the US Coast Guard sent ships through it, and again in 1969,...
[15:38:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nothing really new... - 06Warming Opens Famed Northwest Passage to Navigation - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:38:38] <exec> 08└─Its not even Earth Warmer. If it's CO2 , energy is getting more quickly redistributed from the daytime near equator to nighttime and poles. With no additional energy this will appear to be "warming" if you take averages the wrong way like they do.
[15:38:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm not surprised ... - 06First Report of Gaping Security Flaws in Internet of Things Device - 2488 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:38:50] <exec> 08└─Even though it would shaft me personally if that were true in the United States, I generally agree. I don't list an education section on my resume, nor do I list any certifications aside from my EMT-basic cert, (old) Firefighter 1, and my ham radio cert (once the FCC finally gets around to issuing i...
[15:38:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm not surprised ... - 06First Report of Gaping Security Flaws in Internet of Things Device - 854 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:38:51] <exec> 08└─Hrm, I decided check after posting that. Wikipedia on the topic: The United States, starting from 2013 offers an NCEES Professional Engineer exam for Software Engineering, thereby allowing Software Engineers to be licensed and recognized.[27] Mandatory licensing is currently still largely debated, a...
[15:38:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Stupid boys, stupid toys - 06First Report of Gaping Security Flaws in Internet of Things Device - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:38:54] <exec> 08└─Even and especially a toy should not cause severe risk to the owner/user. It's like saying: "Oh, this has lead paint? Well, it's just a toy, so who cares?"
[15:39:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 955 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:39:09] <exec> 08└─So in other words, there should be no limits on free speech and it's OK to encourage other people to murder their fellow man as long as you yourself didn't pull the trigger? Take a look at their list of monitored organizations, these are not good people, they're well beyond the boundaries of free sp...
[15:39:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Vanderhoth [61] (Score:2) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 2261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:39:15] <exec> 08└─I'm definitely pretty far left of center, but way to prove my point. I disagree, think SPLC shouldn't be the end all be all of "moral authority", get labeled as a right-wing. Maybe I would vote conservative if the CPC wasn't run by an anti-science nut case that's handed our country over to private i...
[15:39:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 873 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:39:19] <exec> 08└─I should have included this in my first response, but I'm also really going to have to challenge your idea of "damned near everyone and everything". I mean, going down the list, we have: - Groups that hate black people for being black - Groups that hate white people for being white - Groups that hat...
[15:41:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Awful stuff--but not the spookiest nuke inciden - 06US Will Clean Area in Spain Where Hydrogen Bombs Fell - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:41:30] <exec> 08└─Probably caused a bunch of cancer cases.
[15:41:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:50 years? - 06US Will Clean Area in Spain Where Hydrogen Bombs Fell - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:41:35] <exec> 08└─will incur severe economic penalties, possibly military.
[15:42:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Why - 06Let's Encrypt Authority X1 and Let's Encrypt Authority X2 Receive Cross-Signatures - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:42:19] <exec> 08└─All of them that I'm aware of are for single domains, and can't be used for commercial or business purposes. That's why we had to fork up for our SSL certificates. Furthermore, if you're referring to StartSSL, paying $20 dollars to get a certificate revoked and reissued (which was not waived in the...
[15:43:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02Re:What about arid climates? - 06The Real Reason Germs Spread in the Winter - 79 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:43:58] <exec> 08└─but it's rather dry in terms of relative humidity for 9 months out of the year.
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[16:37:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03redneckmother [3597] (Score:2, Touché) 02easy - 06NSA Chief Looks to Win Allies at Elite Tech Conference - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:41] <exec> 08└─Dead easy answer: Concentrate on improving security, instead of defeating it.
[16:37:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:easy - 06NSA Chief Looks to Win Allies at Elite Tech Conference - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:37:42] <exec> 08└─... and stop breaking the law.
[16:37:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Just take a minute. - 06NSA Chief Looks to Win Allies at Elite Tech Conference - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:44] <exec> 08└─"We have got to work our way through things and find out how we are going to work together." Just take a minute, and remember that "we" don't have to work together. "You" happen to be "our" employee. "You" work for "us". And, "we" don't like the job that "you" are doing.
[16:37:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Make it so - 06NSA Chief Looks to Win Allies at Elite Tech Conference - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:46] <exec> 08└─It can't be difficult to win over geeks to join the NSA. All he has to do is to promise them (on punishment of death if they blab about it) that they can sometimes sit in his colleague's Captain Picard chair [theregister.co.uk] and yell "make it so" at their henchmen :-).
[16:37:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Modern tech not old tech - 06NSA Chief Looks to Win Allies at Elite Tech Conference - 816 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:47] <exec> 08└─Just as a note, its modern tech not the older definitions of technology. Nobody there knows ohms law or has ever written a single line of code or held a soldering iron or run a compiler. Its not exactly DEFCON or HOPE or blackhat or even a ham radio fest or a linux -con. I'd never heard of WSJDLive...
[16:38:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02The author of Mythryl is also dying. - 06When a Dev Dies, Their Apps Should Live On - 2589 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:38:07] <exec> 08└─He has probably has 2 or 3 years left. [mythryl.org] From the link: I've spent a decade developing Mythryl in the expectation of 2-3 decades of return on investment, but now it looks like I cannot count on more than 2-3 years of return on investment, so I guess the joke is on me. It is also worth n...
[16:38:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Cue Celene Dion - 06When a Dev Dies, Their Apps Should Live On - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:38:08] <exec> 08└─Every night in my code I see you, debug you, That is how I know it goes on Far across the distance And time-lapse between us You have lines that keep going on Near, far, wherever you are I am sure that your code does go on Once more you open that file And you're here on my drive And your code will g...
[16:38:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ahhh, government in action - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:38:23] <exec> 08└─The problem with skillcraft pens is they sit in a warehouse so long that many dry out and do not work.
[16:38:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03scruffybeard [533] (Score:2) 02Re:Ahhh, government in action - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:38:28] <exec> 08└─Not to mention that there may be some offices that have a need for a different configuration. I have seen instances where there were 10 different configs, boiled down to 2, neither of which meet anybody's needs. It looks great on paper because they saved 5% on the cost of the hardware, but then peop...
[16:38:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ahhh, government in action - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 1279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:38:29] <exec> 08└─That comes out of a different pot. "We saved $X million on computer purchasing!" "But now you spend $2X million buying them because of the extra overhead in the new process." "Yes, but I saved $X million on computers." I work for the US federal government, and I love what I do, but I've come to the...
[16:38:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03snick [1408] 02Re:Really? - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 330 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:38:37] <exec> 08└─Anyone who has ever seen the procurement process for any large governmental^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H organisation (e.g. the UK NHS) knows what this means. You'll pay £10 for an AA battery so that you can get everything "from an approved supplier". And every "approved supplier" will play golf with th...
[16:38:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Daiv [3940] (Score:2) 02This is done to shore up budgets - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 436 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:38:43] <exec> 08└─I know several people in this cycle. If they're not going to spend their whole budget by the end of their fiscal period, they order new computers. That way they can request a bigger budget for the next period. It's thought that by not spending the whole budget, it will be reduced next period, but no...
[16:38:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:military aspects - 06Warming Opens Famed Northwest Passage to Navigation - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:38:54] <exec> 08└─"I'm sorry that we had to triple the price of heating oil at the start of winter, but you see, it not our fault: the northern route closed a bit earlier this year"
[16:38:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Re:Nothing really new... - 06Warming Opens Famed Northwest Passage to Navigation - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:38:59] <exec> 08└─It's kind of inconvenient for the AGW message, but the Northwest Passage does open up periodically.
[16:39:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nothing really new... - 06Warming Opens Famed Northwest Passage to Navigation - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:39:00] <exec> 08└─(applause) came here to say the same thing.
[16:39:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:HTCPCP - 06First Report of Gaping Security Flaws in Internet of Things Device - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:39:15] <exec> 08└─Ah, I've found the problem! It's not RFC 2324 compliant!
[16:39:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Stupid boys, stupid toys - 06First Report of Gaping Security Flaws in Internet of Things Device - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:39:18] <exec> 08└─That was business as usual, 40 years ago or less. It's still business as usual in China today. Don't buy your Christmas presents from China, unless you actually want to get rid of your kids.
[16:39:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Stupid boys, stupid toys - 06First Report of Gaping Security Flaws in Internet of Things Device - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:39:20] <exec> 08└─The problem we have is that most basic appliances can be built to be reliable and shipped from the other side of the world for a pitiful amount of money. Companies, which have to comply to the Almighty God of Growth and the "we build cool stuff" ego of their owner, have to keep throwing in features...
[16:39:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:39:36] <exec> 08└─So in other words, there should be no limits on free speech and it's OK to encourage other people to murder their fellow man as long as you yourself didn't pull the trigger?
[16:39:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:0, Troll) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 1274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:39:43] <exec> 08└─So in other words, you're a foreigner that doesn't understand the context and would like to pretend like this isn't a serious problem. As far as a rebuttal goes, this one stinks. It just reinforces the notion that you're not a liberal. Or at least not the sort of liberal I've ever encountered. This...
[16:39:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:39:45] <exec> 08└─LOL, that was quick. Nice to see that the other side has such witty response to the obvious truth.
[16:39:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Vanderhoth [61] (Score:2) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 424 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:39:46] <exec> 08└─"So in other words, you're a foreigner that doesn't understand the context" So in other words, you'll look for any reason you can find to completely ignore people that disagree with you and/or agree with people you don't agree with. I'm guessing had I been like, "HA HA, Ethanol-fueled is such a bloc...
[16:39:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:39:48] <exec> 08└─> voted Liberal > support gay marriage > social assistance > single payer health care and > the rights of people to choose and be respected for whatever gender pronouns they want to use It just reinforces the notion that you're not a liberal.
[16:39:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 2282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:39:52] <exec> 08└─http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/03/26/fbi-dumps-southern-poverty-law-center/ [breitbart.com] The SPLC is a hate group, in and of itself, enabling terrorists to attack Christians. And, the FBI doesn't want the SPLC to be affiliated with them. "SPLC has come under severe criticism from th...
[16:39:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 560 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:39:55] <exec> 08└─I see no problem with that. You can't combat hate groups without targeting the propaganda. If this were the government doing it, I'd be very much opposed to it. But, this is a private institution that has no power to enforce their rules. All they can do is name and shame groups that are engaged in t...
[16:39:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:39:57] <exec> 08└─Racism and xenophobia are free speech.
[16:40:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:What am I missing? - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:40:15] <exec> 08└─It is the same reason we don't permit people to sell organs.
[16:40:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:NOT Discrimnatory - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:40:24] <exec> 08└─Individual religious people aren't necessarily crazy, but their religions are definitely crazy. As for the "human experience": Part of that seems to be to use arguments from ignorance to justify a belief in some magical sky daddy, in many people's cases. It's really an absurd part of the human exper...
[16:40:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Discriminatory - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:40:28] <exec> 08└─Life is unfair and harsh, equality does not naturally exist.
[16:41:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Someone's going to post it - 06Tricky New Malware Replaces Your Entire Browser With a Dangerous Chrome Lookalike - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:41:22] <exec> 08└─Bitch, you get off my lawn. My first PC was an Apple 2 clone, the Franklin ACE 1200. Still have it.
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[17:37:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02So much for SanDisk quality - 06Western Digital Acquires SanDisk, MyPassport 256-bit AES Encryption "Useless" - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:42] <exec> 08└─WD QC is shit. Are they still hemorrhaging big accounts due to the garbage they shipped this past year?
[17:37:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:2) 02Re:Just take a minute. - 06NSA Chief Looks to Win Allies at Elite Tech Conference - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:37:53] <exec> 08└─You keep thinking that, surf.
[17:38:03] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Alfred [4006] 02Another problem solved by Open source... - 06When a Dev Dies, Their Apps Should Live On - 53 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:38:04] <exec> 08└─and another solution stymied by contracts with Apple.
[17:38:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:not FOSS - 06When a Dev Dies, Their Apps Should Live On - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:38:10] <exec> 08└─Disney is effectively immortal
[17:38:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02General problem with digital legacies - 06When a Dev Dies, Their Apps Should Live On - 1251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:38:17] <exec> 08└─Quite who would bother to list their websites, source code, etc. in their wills with some kind of "Give this to the community" clauses? Who would have an executor capable of understanding how to do that? It's rather like this giant box of physical photographs I have from my mother, some of them cert...
[17:38:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The author of Mythryl is also dying. - 06When a Dev Dies, Their Apps Should Live On - 418 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:38:21] <exec> 08└─The other way of looking at it is that Java, C#, Go etc have a major corporation with a large software dev staff that is highly motivated to keeping their language alive and competitive, in terms of new features, compatibility, and price, without instituting legal restrictions so bothersome it would...
[17:38:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Thread Marks is another example - 06When a Dev Dies, Their Apps Should Live On - 524 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:38:23] <exec> 08└─From 2000, Thread Marks was an awesome game for its time. It did what World of Tanks kind of attempts to do today, but it was actually fun. But the person behind this game, died shortly after winning 1st place at Independent Game Festival. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]...
[17:38:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Really? - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:38:52] <exec> 08└─Jesus always got the best weed.
[17:38:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not even the Feds are safe from the White House - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:38:58] <exec> 08└─The clock is ticking and the White House is trying to inflict as much 'change' as possible before getting tossed out on their asses.
[17:39:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nothing really new... - 06Warming Opens Famed Northwest Passage to Navigation - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:39:13] <exec> 08└─No, it is warmer. Because of the way photons work at particular wavelengths, CO2 allows more photons in at higher energies than the ones it lets out. True, there is no additional energy from the Sun to the Earth as visible and ultraviolet photons; but there is less being radiated away from the Earth...
[17:39:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nothing really new... - 06Warming Opens Famed Northwest Passage to Navigation - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:39:14] <exec> 08└─there is less being radiated away from the Earth to space, in the form of infrared photons.
[17:39:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nothing really new... - 06Warming Opens Famed Northwest Passage to Navigation - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:39:18] <exec> 08└─Forget facts, he is obviously a true believer.
[17:39:49] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] 02THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 464 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:39:49] <exec> 08└─While I am all for a happy circle-jerk world in which everybody holds hands and dances under rainbows, I'd like to point out from their own website that the SPLC is just another authoritarian Ultra-Leftist [splcenter.org] American organization that equates free speech to "racism" and "xenophobia." T...
[17:39:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:39:55] <exec> 08└─Of course. They're Bad People, so their rights no longer apply. Exactly how has the SPLC removed anyone's rights?
[17:39:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 790 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:39:57] <exec> 08└─It's not even that they want to ostracize certain groups and stop them from speaking, it's that they only want to ostracize certain groups that fall outside of their (extreme left-wing) ideology. Inflammatory rhetoric is fine as long as it supports their viewpoint. Only if they disagree with the mes...
[17:40:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:40:17] <exec> 08└─When I click a link described as "authoritarian Ultra-Leftist" I would expect to find an article that actually advocates some sort of policy or position. I didn't. Instead of a smoking gun I find an article describing "Identitarian" groups that advocates nothing. Is there some point that link is...
[17:40:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03arulatas [3600] (Score:2) 02Re:What am I missing? - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:40:38] <exec> 08└─Issue as I can see it is donate or go to jail.
[17:43:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't get it - 06Let's Encrypt Authority X1 and Let's Encrypt Authority X2 Receive Cross-Signatures - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:43:11] <exec> 08└─They already got the press credit for adding the feature. What glory is there in tracing down a complicated but like that compared to doing another highly visible change?
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[22:45:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Surprise! - 06IARPA’s New Director Wants You to Surprise Him - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:45:55] <exec> 08└─Jason Matheny, you are a moron. Bet you didn't know that eh? Seriously, if I was to assume such a position, I would keep my name out of media. The fucker is too stupid.
[22:46:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Informative) 02No - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 3 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:04] <exec> 08└─n/t
[22:46:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:06] <exec> 08└─Sure there is Linux, but I have some older Windows software that I still want to use.
[22:46:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:08] <exec> 08└─What software? When I made the switch to Linux 6 years ago I dreaded losing MS Money, but found alternatives for that and anything else I needed in the repos. ReactOS is like beating a dead horse, just make the switch and be happy.
[22:46:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:09] <exec> 08└─What is your MS Money alternative? (genuinely interested in the answer, not trolling here)
[22:46:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 642 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:11] <exec> 08└─AFAIK MS Money doesn't exist at all anymore. That was completely canceled a few years back. I've personally used Moneydance, but I've found the way it does the accounting to be really annoying. I haven't used it in a few years, but it failed miserably at handling bank transfers. It would insist on d...
[22:46:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 765 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:13] <exec> 08└─What software? How about CAD packages, specialized industrial software, ERP, custom application etc. Here is my example of Windows only software that I need for my job: PLC programming software for Automationdirect PLC's. Directsoft 5, Click and Productivity3000 controllers all have Windows only sof...
[22:46:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02hardware - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:14] <exec> 08└─but I have some older Windows software that I still want to use.
[22:46:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Re:hardware - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:16] <exec> 08└─Isn't starting up WinXP the same as starting up IE? Just make sure you're not connected to the internet.
[22:46:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:4, Interesting) 02The historical record says no - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 1295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:18] <exec> 08└─Lets look to the history books for similar projects. DOSEmu finally shipped a 1.0 in exactly one RedHat Linux (Pre RHEL/Fedora) release before being dropped as obsolete. WINE can run a few games but few more serious applications reliably after about two decades of effort. ReactOS leverages Wine for...
[22:46:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The historical record says no - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:19] <exec> 08└─A broad swath of Industry, Government and a few universities could come together and standardize a Windows conpatible API/ABI and demand all purchases be compliance tested against that standard instead of whatever Microsoft ships. That would freeze a target long enough to catch it and make it worth...
[22:46:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The historical record says no - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:21] <exec> 08└─I must confess, you have an astonishingly good idea there, Doctor.
[22:46:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03unzombied [4572] (Score:2) 02Re:The historical record says no - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:23] <exec> 08└─WINE can run a few games but few more serious applications...
[22:46:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02updates? - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:24] <exec> 08└─does not look like there have been any updates in a while
[22:46:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03mmcmonster [401] (Score:2) 02Re:updates? - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:26] <exec> 08└─I think the issue is that 0.4 hasn't been released. The reason it's a concern is that 0.4 was supposed to be a usable OS that you could install as a primary OS and not in a Virtual Machine. And we've been on the 0.3.x branch for several years now. I think the author is quite reasonable in thinking t...
[22:46:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Invoking Betteridge - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:28] <exec> 08└─If its so obscure you can't even post a link to it in TFS, then, NO.
[22:46:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03buswolley [848] (Score:2) 02its over - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 445 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:30] <exec> 08└─Mostly what keeps people on Windows are games and Office. The industry wants to move toward streaming games over internet, and Steam is pushing game compatibility. with **nix. MS is pushing online MSOfgice tools as a complete replacement of local Office software. Virtualization and more powerful har...
[22:46:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondoctor [2963] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:its over - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:31] <exec> 08└─High-end software plays a big role too. CAD is a good example. In general, if you want to do 'real' work windows is your only option.
[22:46:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:its over - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:33] <exec> 08└─While I could hope that Windows 10 will be the last MS 'success'. I have my serious doubts. People are adverse to change. Apple would be a much bigger player in the desktop market, if they had kept their computers in schools. Computers require Training. You have already lost, if you don't start earl...
[22:46:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02ReactOS the OS that Could - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 1250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:35] <exec> 08└─I have kept an eye on ReactOS for the better part of a decade. It's an interesting concept, but it's Still Alpha quality. Definition of Alpha: "If it it works, it's a fluke. Please standby while we break it again." There are only a handful of people that are developing ReactOS. They have grown sligh...
[22:46:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondoctor [2963] (Score:2) 02Re:ReactOS the OS that Could - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:36] <exec> 08└─I shudder to think at the amount of work necessary to make an environment that would run After Effects for Windows 10...
[22:46:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes - 06512-bit RSA Keys Cracked in Four Hours for only $75 - 1605 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:38] <exec> 08└─I would never suggest to not encrypt when the option is available. And to your credit, the tampering is different than forever in archive for posterity. There are differences and convenience trade-offs I'd make to allow an older less CPU capable device still have a private connection while doing mun...
[22:46:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Yes - 06512-bit RSA Keys Cracked in Four Hours for only $75 - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:40] <exec> 08└─Me employing encryption on it should be none of your damn business.
[22:46:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yes - 06512-bit RSA Keys Cracked in Four Hours for only $75 - 6 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:42] <exec> 08└─Moooo?
[22:46:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes - 06512-bit RSA Keys Cracked in Four Hours for only $75 - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:43] <exec> 08└─my distributed.net client mooed every time it completed a workload... I think that was back when the md5 contest or rc4 contest was going on. didn't a 386 sx 20 win the prize? it was a long time ago... I used to participate in the project and was so pleased that my overclocked pentium 2 made the top...
[22:46:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yes - 06512-bit RSA Keys Cracked in Four Hours for only $75 - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:45] <exec> 08└─Those days are done, technological advancement is over.
[22:46:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes - 06512-bit RSA Keys Cracked in Four Hours for only $75 - 2782 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:47] <exec> 08└─oh I know that, you add 1 bit and expotentially increase the space. i tell lay people it is like calculating the amount of heinz varieties. No there are not really 57 different types ketchup, but if we pretended, there are really 57 to the 57th power, because you can have 1/57th of this flavor and t...
[22:46:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes - 06512-bit RSA Keys Cracked in Four Hours for only $75 - 1077 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:48] <exec> 08└─And really, for some of the connections, it 512 is fine. How many bits of encryption do you need to get a map and print it out or check webmail for something you believe is disposal? The right tool for the right job. To get a map and print it out and make sure that it's the real map? Check webmail f...
[22:46:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:completely broken? - 06512-bit RSA Keys Cracked in Four Hours for only $75 - 654 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:50] <exec> 08└─That is true AC and as you'd expect its possible to configure TLS to not use PFS and as you'd expect a fraction of admins fail (about 20% last I heard) If you do Diffie Hellman right, it'll work. And as you'd expect its possible to do it wrong, given a yes/no security option about half of noobs gues...
[22:46:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:completely broken? - 06512-bit RSA Keys Cracked in Four Hours for only $75 - 583 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:52] <exec> 08└─Whoops forgot to add this entertaining link (as you could guess I would do): https://www.ssllabs.com [ssllabs.com] Nice job guys "A" grades on both ipv4 and ipv6 You guys properly listed ECDHE and DHE first before the others so if the client supports PFS...
[22:46:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ken_g6 [3706] (Score:2) 02So how can I tell if a server is secure? - 06512-bit RSA Keys Cracked in Four Hours for only $75 - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:54] <exec> 08└─I checked my bank's website, for instance, in Firefox. At the deepest technical details I can find, it says: "Connection Encrypted (TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256, 128 bit keys, TLS 1.2)" I don't see 512-or-higher anywhere there. But maybe I'm missing something? Or maybe Firefox is?
[22:47:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:my vote: Airplane tickets and hotel room - 06SN Financial "Stretch Goal" 2015 - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:47:06] <exec> 08└─Hell, you could probably raise even more money faster if you sold DVDs of the first one. I'd buy one.
[22:47:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:my vote: Airplane tickets and hotel room - 06SN Financial "Stretch Goal" 2015 - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:47:07] <exec> 08└─Airplane tickets and hotel room for aristarchus and The Mighty Buzzard to meet in person and work out their issues. Extra stretch goal is to provide equipment so the encounter can be artistically filmed by MDC and narrated live by EF
[22:47:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03DonkeyChan [5551] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Combo pack - 06SN Financial "Stretch Goal" 2015 - 557 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:47:09] <exec> 08└─I'm actually on board in reimbursing the guys who helped with initial capital to get this site up and running. Maybe something along the lines of this: Draw your stretch funding out to cover + one year of overhead. This could be tapped for legal or other contingencies. 50% of anything raised over th...
[22:47:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Re:Combo pack - 06SN Financial "Stretch Goal" 2015 - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:47:10] <exec> 08└─I like this approach. Having some money in the bank for a rainy day is always a good thing, but the staff need to be paid, and reimbursed for their outlay.
[22:47:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrcoolbp [68] (Score:2) 02Re:Combo pack - 06SN Financial "Stretch Goal" 2015 - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:47:12] <exec> 08└─Cool, I like this train of though and I'll work it into what ever plan we end up proposing. Thanks.
[22:47:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Is data really encrypted? - 06Western Digital Acquires SanDisk, MyPassport 256-bit AES Encryption "Useless" - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:23] <exec> 08└─I suspect It is meant to serve the purpose of data protection in the case of theft. That's really all. I have no doubt that they (WD) would cough up the key to any police agency that asked.
[22:47:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:I stay clear of WD - 06Western Digital Acquires SanDisk, MyPassport 256-bit AES Encryption "Useless" - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:25] <exec> 08└─Have you looked into the ATA Security thing that all laptops/drives implement? Man 8 hdparm and look for "ATA Security Feature Set" Good luck figuring out what password they use though.
[22:47:35] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Just take a minute. - 06NSA Chief Looks to Win Allies at Elite Tech Conference - 271 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:47:36] <exec> 08└─"We have got to work our way through things and find out how we are going to work together." Just take a minute, and remember that "we" don't have to work together. "You" happen to be "our" employee. "You" work for "us". And, "we" don't like the job that "you" are doing.
[22:49:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02New TV/Web advertisement: - 06White House to Feds: Stop Buying New PCs, Laptops Right Now - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:49:03] <exec> 08└─"US Government pays what?" http://arstechnica.com [arstechnica.com]
[22:49:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:I intend to bring my oven online (not kidding!) - 06First Report of Gaping Security Flaws in Internet of Things Device - 1264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:49:50] <exec> 08└─You are mostly going to be fine. I have a coffee maker that is capable of turning on and off via remote control, a clock/timer, time of day based on the position of the sun in the sky... and random noise on the power line that triggers the timer whenever the refrigerator runs while vacuuming. Provid...
[22:50:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 1110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:50:14] <exec> 08└─"So in other words, there should be no limits on free speech and it's OK to encourage other people to murder their fellow man as long as you yourself didn't pull the trigger?" Why would he say this if he didn't want to discuss limits on free speech? "Take a look at their list of monitored organizati...
[22:50:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:THe SPLC - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:50:18] <exec> 08└─The fact that you consider them to be extreme left-wing speaks more about your own biases than theirs.
[22:50:42] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03anubi [2828] 02A kidney for a major infarction? - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 867 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:50:42] <exec> 08└─We started off allowing a federal income tax to "pay for the Civil war". If we tolerate mandatory contributions of parts of one's body ( you will still live sans a pint of blood... you can live on one kidney ), where can this go? A pint of blood seems minor. The ramifications of where this can go...
[22:51:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:What am I missing? - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 3045 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:51:05] <exec> 08└─You're missing a great deal. Superficially, there doesn't seem to be much of a problem.... only if you're educated and informed about your rights and how the court works. Most are not, and if you been in a court, you could plainly see that the average level of education and sophistication about cour...
[22:52:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Solution - 06US Will Clean Area in Spain Where Hydrogen Bombs Fell - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:52:45] <exec> 08└─GP: Ummm, where do you think this radioactive material came from in the first place?
[22:52:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Stalwarts who helped us avoid Armageddon - 06US Will Clean Area in Spain Where Hydrogen Bombs Fell - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:52:50] <exec> 08└─Yeah. I have mentioned The Man Who Saved the World previously. [soylentnews.org] -- gewg_
[22:53:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03vux984 [5045] 02Re:Good start - 06Let's Encrypt Authority X1 and Let's Encrypt Authority X2 Receive Cross-Signatures - 16 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:53:33] <exec> 08└─Firefox 31.6 ESR
[22:54:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ikanreed [3164] 02Re:Ethical trial? - 06UK NHS to Treat Diabetes Patients With Stem Cell Injections in Trials - 473 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:54:30] <exec> 08└─Oh for fuck's sake. There's always risks in clinical trials. Patients are always informed about the known risks and the possibility of unknown risks. They're always backed with animal trials that suggested low risk of side effects compared to efficacy and literally years of prior review. Might as we...
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[23:45:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Supplies! - 06IARPA’s New Director Wants You to Surprise Him - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:52] <exec> 08└─Does Mr. Matheny have an AOL account? [soylentnews.org] That would be one way to do it.
[23:45:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Surprise! - 06IARPA’s New Director Wants You to Surprise Him - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:53] <exec> 08└─I'm telling you, there are wise guys. The other day I walked into a bar and said to the bartender, "Surprise me". He showed me a naked picture of my wife! - Rodney Dangerfield
[23:45:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Surprise! - 06IARPA’s New Director Wants You to Surprise Him - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:55] <exec> 08└─Take my wife... over and over again?
[23:45:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I have a good idea - 06IARPA’s New Director Wants You to Surprise Him - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:57] <exec> 08└─/me flips the bird. Given how the US intelligence agencies have been operating of late, believing themselves to be above any and all law, even the Constitution of the United States which they have all supposedly sworn to support and defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic, I think that is t...
[23:46:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:46:10] <exec> 08└─in b4 gnucash
[23:46:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:46:11] <exec> 08└─I replaced MS Money 99 with kmymoney. It works fine for what I needed it for, which is checking/savings ledger. I back up the database to a flashdrive.
[23:46:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Linux is still a possible answer - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:46:14] <exec> 08└─Did you install the VirtualBox Extension Pack to get USB support?
[23:46:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The historical record says no - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:46:21] <exec> 08└─And those are only the ones where people cared enough to get an account, log in, and fill out their form. There are at least 20 apps I've used just fine with WINE, but could not be bothered to fill that in.
[23:46:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:updates? - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:46:24] <exec> 08└─I wouldn't be surprised if some low level flunky thought an "ask soylent" would be a good way to drum up more attention to get it over whatever block is in place to a 0.4 release.
[23:46:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02Re:its over - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:46:28] <exec> 08└─Sure. But that is a small minority, especially since most of that category (professional software tools belong to Linux powered workstations). I suppose I should include Photoshop though for a MS win.
[23:46:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:its over - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:46:30] <exec> 08└─Photoshop works fine on wine for me, it's an older version though. And, I haven't even used it in years because gimp does what I need.
[23:46:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:ReactOS the OS that Could - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:46:33] <exec> 08└─I shudder to think at the amount of work necessary to make an environment that would run After Effects for Windows 10...
[23:46:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03NoMaster [3543] (Score:2) 02No - 06Ask Soylent: Can We Turn ReactOS into a Viable Alternative to Windows 10? - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:35] <exec> 08└─Or, put more simply: No. None of the existing emulators or software (e.g WINE) manage to be completely compatible with even Win16 apps, let alone Win32 or Win64. And any attempts to do so will inevitably come a poor second to Windows, if only because they will always be playing catch-up.
[23:46:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:So how can I tell if a server is secure? - 06512-bit RSA Keys Cracked in Four Hours for only $75 - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:46:58] <exec> 08└─EC = Elliptic Curve. Different beast entirely. I'd not be surprised if 128-bit EC wasn't as hard as about 768-bit traditional RSA, but I don't have teh figures with me at the moment. I.e. it sounds like you're vulnerable-ish (only one 768-bit factorisation has ever been announced in public, the NSA...
[23:46:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02Re:So how can I tell if a server is secure? - 06512-bit RSA Keys Cracked in Four Hours for only $75 - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:46:59] <exec> 08└─No, the site probably isn't using 128-bit elliptic curve certificates, which would be about as secure as 512-bit RSA. The 128 bits I think is the symmetric key length used for the negotiated AES keys. To find out what kind of public key they're actually using you have to look at the site certificate...
[23:47:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02Re:So how can I tell if a server is secure? - 06512-bit RSA Keys Cracked in Four Hours for only $75 - 1013 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:47:01] <exec> 08└─Check the site's certificate information. Paypal.com for instance has the following information in View Certificate->Certificate Fields->Certificate->Subject Public Key Info->Subject's Public Key: Modulus (2048 bits): dc 6f 1c 60 da 9c 32 f8 82 72 77 fd 51 80 59 6b db c5 6a 36 4d 6e 8a 49 83 de 75...
[23:47:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Is this really an advance? - 06512-bit RSA Keys Cracked in Four Hours for only $75 - 532 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:03] <exec> 08└─""" Kleinjung, Lenstra, Page, and Smart [23] parameterized cryptographic key strengths and symmetric and asymmetric algorithms in terms of the cost to break them on the Amazon EC2 environment in 2012. For RSA, they estimated from experiments on truncated sieving jobs and simplified linear algebra th...
[23:47:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03korger [4465] (Score:1) 02When key lengths should be deprecated - 06512-bit RSA Keys Cracked in Four Hours for only $75 - 1186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:05] <exec> 08└─There are numerous telltale signs for when people interested in high security should ditch a certain key size. My favorite is the factorization status of Mersenne numbers. These have the form M(p) = 2^p - 1, where p is prime, therefore M(p) has p binary digits. Unlike the RSA challenges, these numbe...
[23:47:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Combo pack - 06SN Financial "Stretch Goal" 2015 - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:25] <exec> 08└─Reimbursing is a good idea and if something were to go down then they may be willing to chip-in again if absolutely necessary. Now that the community is larger it would be easier for unexpected costs to be spread out instead of being concentrated with the staff.
[23:49:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03shipofgold [4696] (Score:1) 02Re:Nothing really new... - 06Warming Opens Famed Northwest Passage to Navigation - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:49:40] <exec> 08└─I agree, the argument made was pretty poor. The Northwest Passage was apparently open for three years in the 1940s: This article simply does not say that. There is no mention of the 1940's at all.
[23:49:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02a question for deniers - 06Warming Opens Famed Northwest Passage to Navigation - 1303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:49:41] <exec> 08└─I'd like to ask deniers a question, a sort of Pascal's Wager on Climate Change. How does it personally benefit you that Climate Change be a big lie, a big liberal scientist conspiracy, and the Earth isn't getting warmer after all? Do you have stock in oil companies? Are you in line for government fu...
[23:49:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] 02HTCPCP - 06First Report of Gaping Security Flaws in Internet of Things Device - 67 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:49:59] <exec> 08└─Ah, I've found the problem! It's not RFC 2324 [ietf.org] compliant!
[23:50:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''fines that are a percentage of one's wealth'' - 06For Offenders Who Can’t Pay, It’s a Pint of Blood or Jail Time - 1882 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:50:20] <exec> 08└─...as those are in Finland. Finland, Home of the $103,000 Speeding Ticket [theatlantic.com] ...as we have discussed before. $56,000 Speeding Ticket Issued Under Finland's System of Fines Based on Available Income [soylentnews.org] . Getting back toward the original topic, there is a new law in Misso...
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