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[01:42:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yaa101 [4091] (Score:1) 02Re:Curiosity - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:42:56] <exec> 08└─In fact, there are even darker scenarios like in the continuüm series, in 2039 the corporations institute a form of debtors' prisons, in which people who cannot afford to pay their debts to the corporations are officially stripped of their citizenships and implanted with mind-control chips, permane...
[01:43:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] 02Comments - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 20 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:43:02] <exec> 08└─These comments suck.
[01:43:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Re:idiocracy - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:15] <exec> 08└─Ha! When I wake up in the office I don't even need to do anything to get back to work.
[01:43:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02This is stupid - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:43:19] <exec> 08└─This is stupid because 1. you will end up using the same "password" everywhere 2. the "password" is hard to change 3. the "password" is easy to steal 4. you will need backup authentication in case the chip decides to fail (any accidental force or heat applied to your hand/arm is liable to cause dama...
[01:43:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Copyleft is NOT Public Domain - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:33] <exec> 08└─beggars in IN make over 100k, AND they have neckbeards!
[01:43:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Copyleft is NOT Public Domain - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:34] <exec> 08└─>That's why the market value of Free Software is $0.00 and Linux users are smelly freetard neckbeards who beg on street corners. They make a deal with a devil and then wish not to give him his due when it turns out that the deal was exactly as stated: We give you something for "free", you give us th...
[01:43:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Copyleft is NOT Public Domain - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 685 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:43] <exec> 08└─> And no, GRSecurity can't prohibit paying customers from making the patches publicly available, but they can jack up the price until customers don't want to give away for free something that they paid a lot of money for. Ever heard of "bad faith". No? Ever heard of "frustration of purpose" No? You...
[01:43:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Bakka - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 1514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:45] <exec> 08└─GRsecurity is a derivative work. Why that matters is discussed way below. Copyright allows you to restrict a work, what area of the law allows you to grant permission? Property and Contract law. The significance of this is discussed in other posts below. Suffice to say: either spengler's license to...
[01:43:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How to un'GPL 101 - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:51] <exec> 08└─Could you explain that clause and how it works out. Because that is exactly what the grsecurity person has announced he is doing. Everyone is swearing this is A-OK.
[01:43:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The rundown: - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:56] <exec> 08└─Instead we get: . "You know [randomMovieStar] used [randomProduct] -- now no one can!"
[01:44:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:''have to change my position'' - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 2051 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:44:46] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, a large part of the point of charter schools is precisely that they can make their own rules, because the incumbent authorities have made such a mess of the schools currently in place. While the grandparent poster may not have read with enough attention to detail, the key element here...
[01:44:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 1606 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:44:49] <exec> 08└─It has little to do with contracts. Since the schools were established under a law (recently found in conflict with the constitution of the state), and funded under the same law, what now falls away is their funding. As I see it they can fold, or go private, or convert to homeschooling collectives....
[01:45:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Freedom? Choice? - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:03] <exec> 08└─It was between your ears, wasn't it?
[01:45:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Freedom? Choice? - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:06] <exec> 08└─Every bit of what I have has been paid for, so I owe nothing to "society", thank you very much. You don't get to take credit for anything the sweat of my brow has purchased either directly or with a temporary pit-stop in the form of cash. Ever.
[01:45:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Freedom? Choice? - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:07] <exec> 08└─Not what you "have", Buzz, what you "are"! That is what education gives you. But I guess I can see how we should try to ignore this in your case. Just saying.
[01:45:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Freedom? Choice? - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:09] <exec> 08└─No, slappy, my education was paid for as well and, as I'm able to think for myself despite all the attempted programming, is not who I am. I can see how that would confuse you as you seem to have bought entirely in to the entirely liberal education cabal's party line and have never had a thought you...
[01:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Freedom? Choice? - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 1260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:11] <exec> 08└─No, whippy, no one can have thoughts of their own, because thoughts are not property! Because if they are, and all the liberal cabals of teachers unions are sapping the virile man-strength out of all young persons, they are violating intellectual property rights! I strongly suspect that you did no...
[01:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Freedom? Choice? - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:13] <exec> 08└─I strongly suspect that you did not actually pay the full cost, or for that matter, the full value of your education, if that is, any of it had stuck. And why would you pay to be brainwashed, and why would you be so proud of the fact that you did not get what you paid for?
[01:45:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:A shameless Thatcherite - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:14] <exec> 08└─...and anyone who votes is voting for disempowerment of the individual
[01:45:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A shameless Thatcherite - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 2153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:16] <exec> 08└─The only difference You made me smile. greed is just fine if it's bottom-up I didn't mention it in the GP post but I have pointed out in another post in this thread and repeatedly at this site that USA had 5 decades of prosperity before Thatcherism/Reaganism. Before that period of prosperity / gener...
[01:45:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Freedom? Choice? - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:18] <exec> 08└─Sweet jeebus, angry much?
[01:45:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Parallax - 06Using Stellar 'Twins' to Reach the Outer Limits of the Galaxy - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:43] <exec> 08└─Why do you need to have an orbit? We know the position of new horizons and earth, no need to wait for centuries. If star x is 3.8 degrees off Bernard's star from Earth and 3.5 degrees off from new horizons we can work out where it is.
[01:46:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:why tor? - 06Tor-Enabled Debian Mirrors - 849 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:46:01] <exec> 08└─The first post explains the use-case: During Jacob Applebaum's talk at DebConf15, he noted that Debian should TLS-enable all services, especially the mirrors. His reasoning was that when a high-value target downloads a security update for package foo, an adversary knows that they are still using a...
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[02:44:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 1588 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:44:47] <exec> 08└─In a sense, charter schools are funded by a form of voting - the parents of children enrolled there "vote" their funding to the school, and that is a good thing. What's not a good thing is how the charter schools discriminate. Being small, and without oversight, they become little elite oases of "li...
[02:48:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:1) 02Then incorporate - 06The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:48:31] <exec> 08└─Corporations benefit from globalization and trade agreements - no one else does.
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[03:43:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormreaver [5101] (Score:2) 02Re:How to un'GPL 101 - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 701 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:43:51] <exec> 08└─Not saying anyone will ever make you change, but I think if you read the GPL carefully you will find that it demands that you make your modifications and improvements generally available.... The GPL requires sources to be made available under any one of three circumstances, at my option. The one I...
[03:43:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:How to un'GPL 101 - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 1198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:43:52] <exec> 08└─"Corresponding Source conveyed, and Installation Information provided, in accord with this section must be in a format that is publicly documented (and with an implementation available to the public in source code form), and must require no special password or key for unpacking, reading or copying."...
[03:44:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Chat with a knowlegable person - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 3808 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:44:02] <exec> 08└─20:51 -!- Channel #nottor created Mon Sep 15 22:59:50 2008 20:51 [ greg] We've been discussing locating plaintiffs to bring suit on the issue of Brad Spengler of GRSecurity once he closes his derivative work (with some new discussions): 20:51 [ greg] https://soylentnews.org
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[06:22:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:22:28] <exec> 08└─...do not see themselves as working class unionists, until they are faced with politicians and business persons intend on destroying education for the sake of profit. Then they reluctantly form unions for the sake of their students.
[06:22:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:22:29] <exec> 08└─I infer from this that you do not know any teachers. These are people who pay for supplies out of their own salaries, and accept abysmal wages, and get disrespected by the vocal majority of Americans. Of course they are not like other unionists, they are professionals.
[06:22:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 732 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:22:48] <exec> 08└─That's just deck chairs on the Titanic -- a metaphor that works on many levels. The truth is that the state controls everything that really matters. They control the what and constrain the how and present the locals with the illusion of choice. The board can hire teachers, so long as they have the s...
[06:27:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:''I do not agree with all that Sanders says'' - 06The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:27:15] <exec> 08└─Though Bernie calls himself a "Socialist", he isn't. (A Socialist wants Capitalism replaced--not just tweaked.)
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[07:21:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03penguinoid [5331] (Score:2) 02Re:Curiosity - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:21:03] <exec> 08└─"Unhand me, you scoundrel."
[07:21:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03penguinoid [5331] (Score:2) 02Re:You can pry my ID chips - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:21:24] <exec> 08└─Include an on-chip pulse monitor?
[07:26:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Assholes - 06How Comcast is Changing Tactics in Response to Cord Cutters - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:26:11] <exec> 08└─Centurylink hasn't introduced caps
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[11:51:15] <exec> 08└─@stormreaver JoeMerchant makes a good point: "But if you release the modified version to the public in some way, the GPL requires you to make the modified source code available to the program's users, under the GPL." This seems pretty clear to me - commercial poison. Poison is a strong, pejorative w...
[11:51:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:51:53] <exec> 08└─Right. But that isn't _why_ they formed unions.
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[12:54:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score:2) 02Re:So it's good to be poor? - 06'Role Model' Bhutan Takes Zen Approach to Climate Change - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:54:39] <exec> 08└─If you truly believed in re-incarnation, would a long life-span be something of great importance to you? Why spend all that time in old age while you could be living your new, young, life?
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[13:15:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Yeah - 06Amazon and GoDaddy Sued for Hosting Leaked Ashley Madison Data - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:15:51] <exec> 08└─Yeah, specifically proving the intent.
[13:15:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Parent is a turned-out faggot - 06Amazon and GoDaddy Sued for Hosting Leaked Ashley Madison Data - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:15:54] <exec> 08└─You cried like a sissy bitch last night when I was turning you out.
[13:15:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not what your video-cam says. - 06Amazon and GoDaddy Sued for Hosting Leaked Ashley Madison Data - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:15:55] <exec> 08└─The video shows you begging him not to leave, and when he does leave, you're the sissy bitch huddled on the floor, whining like a little bitch. What was in that syringe, anyway? The cops might want to know too.
[13:15:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02No sympathy here - 06Amazon and GoDaddy Sued for Hosting Leaked Ashley Madison Data - 1171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:57] <exec> 08└─Sorry - errr - no I'm not even sorry. I just can't feel any sympathy for people getting busted when they've done someone wrong. There are consequences for all kinds of things. Cheating has it's consequences, and getting caught cheating has it's own set of consequences. Being busted shouldn't be a we...
[13:15:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02The truth is the ultimate defense - 06Amazon and GoDaddy Sued for Hosting Leaked Ashley Madison Data - 449 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:59] <exec> 08└─That the truth trumps all possible plaintiff arguments in defamation compkaints was established in the New World colonies well before 1776. To the extent the plaintiffs really are injured parties it would be the result of untrue allegations posted on amazon's or godaddy's servers. However, defamatio...
[13:16:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02So basically... - 06Space Whisky Review: "Hints of Antiseptic Smoke, Rubber and Smoked Fish" - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:09] <exec> 08└─The only difference they found is due to the difference in physical storage (in barrel vs. wood chip mixture) ... nothing to do with gravitational difference.
[13:16:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:In California at least, you have the right to r - 06Biking Injuries And Deaths Are Spiking in the US - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:16:22] <exec> 08└─My father had a saying about flaunting "I am a pedestrian you have to yield to me". "You can be in the right. Dead right. Yield to the car even though you dont have to."
[13:16:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Stating the obvious - 06Biking Injuries And Deaths Are Spiking in the US - 1024 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:16:28] <exec> 08└─Cycle lanes need to be part of the sidewalk and not part of the road. Pedistrian v Bicycle 10mph impact. Bicycle vs Automobile 50mph impact. I say this as a cyclist too. I just moved out of a city that had hundreds of miles of bike paths, many of them following right along side of the road, all of t...
[13:16:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nesh [269] (Score:2) 02I disagree - 06Biking Injuries And Deaths Are Spiking in the US - 692 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:16:40] <exec> 08└─Where I live 90% of children over 12 years old go to school by bike. It's not just a hobby .. here it is considered a pure, acceptable and clean mode of transport. The road is effectively shared. In addition extra infrastructure for biking is added on yearly basis. Of course accidents do happen ......
[13:16:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Great. - 06Stonehenge Researchers 'May Have Found Largest Neolithic Site' - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:16:49] <exec> 08└─You might laugh, but one of the stones known to be missing from Stonehenge was located ... above the door of a nearby pub. I'm sure the first researcher to report this got a response of "Go home, Arthur, you're drunk!"
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