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[05:55:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02No one will be going there. - 06Using Stellar 'Twins' to Reach the Outer Limits of the Galaxy - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:55:49] <exec> 08└─No one will be going anywhere beyond Earth. You will not leave, and you will not deprive your Earthbound government of revenue. Sit down, shut up, and continue paying your fucking taxes.
[05:55:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Great story - 06Using Stellar 'Twins' to Reach the Outer Limits of the Galaxy - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:55:50] <exec> 08└─I'm glad we lifted so much of it and posted it directly to the front page without so much as a page break. There is really no reason to ever visit TFA! That's great! /sarcasm Let's be better...
[05:55:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02My Twin Sisters: Hole in the Attic - 06Using Stellar 'Twins' to Reach the Outer Limits of the Galaxy - 3834 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:55:52] <exec> 08└─Only a half hour until everyone gets home. I must work fast to finish the job. I plug in the drill and hurry up into the attic. Ah, here is the spot. The drill spins as I press in down into the wooden floor. And then, light. I pull out the drill and look down into the hole. Yes, perfect. From here,...
[05:55:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03No Respect [991] (Score:2) 02What? - 06Using Stellar 'Twins' to Reach the Outer Limits of the Galaxy - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:55:53] <exec> 08└─It starts out talking about stellar "twins" and then abruptly switches to talking about using parallax to measure distance. The Gaia satellite will be better at measuring parallax than Hipparcos. Got it. But what does that have to do with stellar twins?
[05:56:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:3, Funny) 02Yeah, right... - 06Tor-Enabled Debian Mirrors - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:56:02] <exec> 08└─... get systemd (with the flavour of the month bug/NSA exploit) in complete anonymity. Very helpful!
[05:56:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03_NSAKEY [16] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Yeah, right... - 06Tor-Enabled Debian Mirrors - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:56:03] <exec> 08└─You can also get Wheezy and Squeeze packages from it. Source: http://vwakviie2ienjx6t.onion [vwakviie2ienjx6t.onion]
[05:56:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score:2) 02Re:Yeah, right... - 06Tor-Enabled Debian Mirrors - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:56:05] <exec> 08└─Actually, by using TOR, you only choose to let the NSA track you more easily than Google et al. Using TOR isn't about avoiding evil, it's about choosing the lesser.
[05:56:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yeah, right... - 06Tor-Enabled Debian Mirrors - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:56:07] <exec> 08└─> get systemd (with the flavour of the month bug/NSA exploit) in complete anonymity. Very helpful! The next release of systemd will include TOR functionality. Your init scripts will be loaded at boot from a TOR hidden service.
[05:56:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Problems with SN service earlier? - 06Tor-Enabled Debian Mirrors - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:56:08] <exec> 08└─Earlier today (8-10 hours ago) I was having tons of time getting page views from SN, as if it was DDos'd or something. I couldn't get past the front page (no error page, browser just hung; FFox on Windows). Seems fine now tho.
[05:56:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Problems with SN service earlier? - 06Tor-Enabled Debian Mirrors - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:56:10] <exec> 08└─Obviously some fuckhead tried to unplug SoylentNews from the Internet and put it exclusively on Tor instead to make it more edgy.
[05:56:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Problems with SN service earlier? - 06Tor-Enabled Debian Mirrors - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:56:12] <exec> 08└─I was getting that. Not hangs, but pages served were empty without any delay. View source showed no text at all. Reload a couple of times and the page would finally make it through. So I switched to a different VPN exit-node on the other side of the country and it cleared up immediately.
[05:56:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02The darkness is where terrists hide! - 06Bring on the Night, say National Park Visitors in New Study - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:56:17] <exec> 08└─We can't have darkness! Sandniggers will sneak up on your children and convert them to Islam! You don't want your children to become Mooslims, do you? THink OF the CHidlren!
[05:56:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Walzmyn [987] (Score:3, Interesting) 02True dark sky is amazing - 06Bring on the Night, say National Park Visitors in New Study - 492 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:56:18] <exec> 08└─I grew up in the country. We had a pretty good view of the sky. My city wife loved the dates I would take her on out of town so she could see what she never saw growing up. Then we got a chance to spend a week on Lake Powell. It's a class 1 night sky; if you don't have a light with you, there's not...
[05:56:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:True dark sky is amazing - 06Bring on the Night, say National Park Visitors in New Study - 573 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:56:20] <exec> 08└─A true dark sky is definitely something you don't know until you know, and never fails to disappoint unlike most other bullshit touristy recommendations. First time I saw one was in Arizona's White Mountains somewhere around Pinetop-Lakeside. The most striking feature is how many more stars you can...
[05:56:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:True dark sky is amazing - 06Bring on the Night, say National Park Visitors in New Study - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:56:22] <exec> 08└─But at least my neighbors feel better about themselves while they sleep with the porchlight on and the massive spotlight they had the city put in my yard. I encourage everyone I know to turn the lights off at night. I have seen the night sky without lights. It is amazing. City night sky is a dull gr...
[05:56:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:2) 02"Dark" skies a misnomer - 06Bring on the Night, say National Park Visitors in New Study - 1334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:56:24] <exec> 08└─You know what the Milky Way looks like? A band of light from hundreds of millions of stars too small and faint to make out individually? When there's no light pollution and no clouds and no moon...that's what the entire sky looks like. If the Milky Way is up, it's even brighter. The zodiacal light i...
[05:56:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02exposed to the atmosphere - 06This Plastic Heals Itself - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:56:29] <exec> 08└─Of course "exposed to the atmosphere" is a bit difficult in space, but TFS is also clear that exposed to oxygen is meant.
[05:56:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:exposed to the atmosphere - 06This Plastic Heals Itself - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:56:31] <exec> 08└─Keep reading, attention deficit retard: "when it’s exposed to oxygen"
[05:56:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:exposed to the atmosphere - 06This Plastic Heals Itself - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:56:33] <exec> 08└─Shut the fuck up, ironic nigger bitch: "TFS is also clear that exposed to oxygen is meant"
[05:56:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:exposed to the atmosphere - 06This Plastic Heals Itself - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:56:35] <exec> 08└─TFS is also clear that exposed to oxygen is meant.
[05:56:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Enlist Today in Obama's Wars - 06This Plastic Heals Itself - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:56:36] <exec> 08└─Eggheads invented perfect bulletproof armor. Now you have no excuse not to fight and to kill for Obama. Unless you are a fucking racist.
[05:56:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02An old principle - 06This Plastic Heals Itself - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:56:38] <exec> 08└─Crack an egg into a car radiator with a leak. It will polymerise in the heat, and seal the hole.
[05:56:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Re:An old principle - 06This Plastic Heals Itself - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:56:40] <exec> 08└─Indeed, it is an old principle. Self-sealing fuel tanks [wikipedia.org] were developed during the Second World War to prevent shot-up but otherwise flyable fighters and bombers from leaking out all their fuel. Quite a clever technology.
[05:56:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02The Video - 06This Plastic Heals Itself - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:56:41] <exec> 08└─The video seems unconvincing. The bullet hole did not heal. They switched the hand held samples (even different numbers) half way through.
[05:56:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Re:The Video - 06This Plastic Heals Itself - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:56:43] <exec> 08└─Came here to say the same. They mention "instant healing" yet the goo drips out for quite a few instants. I wonder how the properties actually change under pressure differential.
[05:56:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:The Video - 06This Plastic Heals Itself - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:56:45] <exec> 08└─The bullet hole did not heal.
[05:56:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03marcello_dl [2685] (Score:2) 02scrap the big bang already :D - 06Astronomers Detect the Farthest Galaxy Yet With Keck Telescope - 1278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:56:49] <exec> 08└─> may have special properties that enabled it to create a large bubble of ionized hydrogen much earlier than is possible for more typical galaxies at these times," says Sirio Belli, a Caltech graduate student who worked on the project. >"We are currently calculating more thoroughly the exact chances...
[05:56:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:scrap the big bang already :D - 06Astronomers Detect the Farthest Galaxy Yet With Keck Telescope - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:56:51] <exec> 08└─So do you take the hipster approach to other science topics? Maybe you root for the phlogiston theory because humans came up with this atomic theory stuff? Do you root for the humors idea to come back in vogue?
[05:56:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:scrap the big bang already :D - 06Astronomers Detect the Farthest Galaxy Yet With Keck Telescope - 1087 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:56:52] <exec> 08└─Instead of modding your reply, I will comment. Its my hope that this forum remain a place where anyone can run something up the flagpole to see if anyone salutes or offers a cogent response of why some concept is not workable. Neither was offered. This subject is rife with belief, as ( to the best...
[05:56:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:scrap the big bang already :D - 06Astronomers Detect the Farthest Galaxy Yet With Keck Telescope - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:56:54] <exec> 08└─Science is about what we can see and observe. The best evidence that we have gotten from observation and experiment largely rules out the observable aspects of your theory. As you freely admit denying your theory is logically impossible, which is another way of saying that it isn't falsifiable, so t...
[05:56:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Age of Universe - 06Astronomers Detect the Farthest Galaxy Yet With Keck Telescope - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:56:56] <exec> 08└─"The universe itself is about 13.8 billion years old." O'Really?
[05:57:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Re:More concern needed - 06'Role Model' Bhutan Takes Zen Approach to Climate Change - 564 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:57:05] <exec> 08└─And yet there are still people who say climate change isn't happening. Or they say it is happening but it's a natural cycle that humans can't change one way or the other. Or they say it IS caused by man but trying to stop it would cause even more human suffering than doing nothing. It's a political...
[05:57:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1, Troll) 02Re:Tuvalu - 06'Role Model' Bhutan Takes Zen Approach to Climate Change - 594 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:57:07] <exec> 08└─What is a shame is that the buzzword "Zen" is being invoked here, and my brain shuts down anytime I hear or read that word. The word evokes pseudo-intellectual phoney-cultured Caucasian techies with Asian fetishes, blown-out ex-hippie women with genital herpes doing yoga in Valtrex commercials, a ri...
[05:57:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''Religion'' - 06'Role Model' Bhutan Takes Zen Approach to Climate Change - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:57:09] <exec> 08└─That's the word that gets me. Is a philosophy that doesn't include a deity a "religion"? ...or is it that people of European ancestry can only think in straight lines? -- gewg_
[05:57:10] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03inertnet [4071] 02Re:Tuvalu - 06'Role Model' Bhutan Takes Zen Approach to Climate Change - 48 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:57:11] <exec> 08└─I met their prime minister a couple of weeks ago
[05:57:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Zen. - 06'Role Model' Bhutan Takes Zen Approach to Climate Change - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:57:13] <exec> 08└─You Keep Using That Word, I Do Not Think It Means What You Think It Means. Just because a concept is Buddhist does not mean it is Zen. Likewise, Zen is not synonymous with 'chilled out'.
[05:57:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03chrysosphinx [5262] (Score:1) 02If you ever forget your funny passphrase, - 06Linux Foundation Releases PARANOID Internal Infosec Guide - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:57:24] <exec> 08└─don't worry. You can find it in Herbrand universe. It is there, for sure.
[05:57:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03hash14 [1102] 02Assholes - 06How Comcast is Changing Tactics in Response to Cord Cutters - 543 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:57:32] <exec> 08└─Not to mention that Comcast has no technical reason for doing this and that it's solely a business tactic: http://arstechnica.com [arstechnica.com] In other words, they have no reason for doing this other than the...
[05:57:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Assholes - 06How Comcast is Changing Tactics in Response to Cord Cutters - 525 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:57:37] <exec> 08└─The broadband/cable providers will have a simple solution to this. All the big companies would buy out all the little companies or they would make it such that the little companies must go through big providers to get Internet access. Then the big companies would create regional monopolies. This wou...
[05:57:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02DIY looks really smart these days - 06How Comcast is Changing Tactics in Response to Cord Cutters - 790 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:57:40] <exec> 08└─Chattanooga has already been mentioned. Wilson, NC is another city with the foresight to have put in their own publicly-owned (Socialism!) fast internet. (No part of NC is on the afore-mentioned list.) Those 2 places got theirs in before the incumbents circled the wagons and got state laws passed to...
[05:57:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Assholes - 06How Comcast is Changing Tactics in Response to Cord Cutters - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:57:42] <exec> 08└─But but but.. it's a free market!! Why are you trying to punish success???
[05:57:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Assholes - 06How Comcast is Changing Tactics in Response to Cord Cutters - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:57:43] <exec> 08└─So are you on board that internet service must be treated as a public utility yet?
[05:57:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Assholes - 06How Comcast is Changing Tactics in Response to Cord Cutters - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:57:45] <exec> 08└─No, still convinced that eliminating government grants of monopoly is the best way to handle it.
[05:57:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03AudioGuy [24] (Score:2) 02Re:Assholes - 06How Comcast is Changing Tactics in Response to Cord Cutters - 1353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:57:47] <exec> 08└─You and jdavidb are arguing past each other because you are probably looking at different aspects of the same problem. The problem with the present government granted monopoly is that the monopoly is granted on EVERYTHING. It is as if the government granted a monopoly on roads, and also what traffic...
[05:57:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No, their profits will go down - 06How Comcast is Changing Tactics in Response to Cord Cutters - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:57:52] <exec> 08└─> Not particularly profitable != losing money. Never said it was. Go back. Read what I wrote. Here, I will write it again in the vain hope that it will sink in this time: it would just increase Comcast's profit margin.
[05:57:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No, their profits will go down - 06How Comcast is Changing Tactics in Response to Cord Cutters - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:57:54] <exec> 08└─That does not follow, unless they are actively losing money on their cable service. As I said, most people who have their cable service already have their Internet service. Unless that is not true, and given all this, I do not see how they could possibly gain from people cutting the cord.
[05:57:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No, their profits will go down - 06How Comcast is Changing Tactics in Response to Cord Cutters - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:57:56] <exec> 08└─You are clearly math impaired.
[05:57:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No, their profits will go down - 06How Comcast is Changing Tactics in Response to Cord Cutters - 791 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:57:57] <exec> 08└─Where are the specific numbers? You have not presented any, so there is not much opportunity to do real math. You are making too many assumptions and being too vague. Someone above said: "Not going to happen. Internet service is more profitable than television service." So what? Just because X is mo...
[05:57:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No, their profits will go down - 06How Comcast is Changing Tactics in Response to Cord Cutters - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:57:59] <exec> 08└─You are clearly an idiot. Unless they are providing it at a loss, they will receive less money if you stop paying them for tv.
[05:58:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Antennae need not yield poor reception - 06How Comcast is Changing Tactics in Response to Cord Cutters - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:58:04] <exec> 08└─Depending on your location and location of antenna towers, it may not be necessary to make it steerable. There are plenty of plans available. Search for "Gray Hoverman tv antenna" and you will find plenty of options. I built a double-bay Hoverman and it works quite well.
[05:58:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimios [201] (Score:2) 02EU - 06How Comcast is Changing Tactics in Response to Cord Cutters - 384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:58:06] <exec> 08└─I pay 20€ and get all channels (including HBO and similar, 18 rated, extra nature sport an life channels), 100 Mbit FTTH (soon to be gigabit just need to change the mediaconverter) unlimited internet, 5Gb limit 3G modem, a fixed phone with free calls within the network and a cellphone. Yes I under...
[05:58:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Ahh freedom. - 06The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - 161 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:58:25] <exec> 08└─That's strange. I've been a contract consultant, in IT, for over twenty years. Somehow I have group health insurance, and a retirement plan. How did that happen?
[05:58:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ahh freedom. - 06The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - 396 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:58:26] <exec> 08└─It's very rare to find someone with such a considered understanding of the world. So many feel that those who haven't got high paying gigs and lots of money didn't work hard enough, even if the unlucky worked harder than the rest. The "just world" view that one has worked hard enough is simply a sel...
[05:58:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Ahh freedom. - 06The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:58:28] <exec> 08└─And what I've learned over my 25 years in the business is that pure luck is the single largest component of my success.
[05:58:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrsam [5122] (Score:1) 02Re:Ahh freedom. - 06The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - 1921 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:58:35] <exec> 08└─It might actually be a good idea to read the cited American Enteprise Institute report. It does not say what you think it does. It's focused on analysing the results of US's massive welfare spending and redistribution of wealth, and whether it does anything to encourage upward economic mobility. Quo...
[05:58:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ahh freedom. - 06The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - 954 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:58:36] <exec> 08└─> It might actually be a good idea to read the cited American Enteprise Institute report. It does not say what you think it does. Actually there were tons of articles to choose from, I picked that one specifically to test if you were more interested in railing against "left-wing talking points" than...
[05:58:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrsam [5122] (Score:1) 02Re:Ahh freedom. - 06The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - 754 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:58:38] <exec> 08└─Reviewing what I wrote, I do not really see where I argued any such thing. You're probably replying to the wrong post. Furthermore, Mr. Trump didn't discover the novel idea of positive thinking, and self-confidence. You'd be shocked to learn that this concept has been in existence for a while. And t...
[05:58:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Ahh freedom. - 06The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - 4170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:58:40] <exec> 08└─You live in a happy little world where a person gets what they deserve. You feel you've worked hard and earned what you have. This is a sense of entitlement: I've worked hard, probably harder than you, and I've got nothing to show for it. For seven years, I had a can-do attitude. Seven years, I did...
[05:58:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Ahh freedom. - 06The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:58:41] <exec> 08└─Be thankful for your situation, but don't hold accountable others for their misfortune.
[05:58:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ahh freedom. - 06The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:58:43] <exec> 08└─Not to mention that a second or even third job are outright impossible when your first temp-job is entirely "on call", with no fixed schedule or any kind of predictability. Even if you do get a second job, you'll lose it just as soon as your first job schedules you to work at the same time your seco...
[05:58:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''I do not agree with all that Sanders says'' - 06The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - 905 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:58:51] <exec> 08└─Can you be the slightest bit specific? Bernie's 12-Step Economic Agenda For America [senate.gov] Though Bernie calls himself a "Socialist", he isn't. (A Socialist wants Capitalism replaced--not just tweaked.) What Bernie is is a "Social Democrat"--but I'll leave the original tongue-in-cheek headline...
[05:58:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03pinchy [777] (Score:1) 02Re:''I do not agree with all that Sanders says'' - 06The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:58:53] <exec> 08└─haha @ that first link. politicians are all the same. 1. Rebuilding Our Roads
[05:58:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:level the playing field - 06The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:58:55] <exec> 08└─Jesus christ your blather is tedious.
[05:58:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:level the playing field - 06The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:58:56] <exec> 08└─Have you never experienced your boss ordering you to do something unethical and also likely illegal, and if you express concerns on that point, hit back with questions and doubts about your loyalty to the company and your commitment to the job, as well as dismissive statements about the harm that wi...
[05:58:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Shit rolls downhill; build a wall - 06The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - 541 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:58:58] <exec> 08└─At the first sign that you are working for unethical people, it's time to start interviewing for a new job. You also need to put a lawyer on retainer. A note to your boss is in order as well: 2015/09/06 To: Pointy-Haired Boss Re: Continued airing of unlicensed content Your directive of 2015/09/06 to...
[05:58:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:level the playing field - 06The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:59:00] <exec> 08└─This is about exploitation, not evolution.
[05:59:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03fliptop [1666] (Score:2) 02Re:Can we please have a moratorium on these articl - 06The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:59:04] <exec> 08└─It could well be a Dice spoon-fed article
[05:59:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Can we please have a moratorium on these articl - 06The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:59:06] <exec> 08└─There's already one industry that has been leading the charge on a "majority contractor" field: IT system administration. It is a dying field, strangling itself due to the short-sightedness of turning its workforce into an ephemeral pool, never able to amass proper documentation, letting tribal know...
[05:59:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Can we please have a moratorium on these articl - 06The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - 2578 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:59:07] <exec> 08└─I like the discussion generated regarding articles like these. There are those of us that are not reading these sites; maybe we are in the trenches. Maybe we don't notice because when they came and took the older programmers, we weren't old. I am also worried about when the time comes and that they...
[05:59:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Can we please have a moratorium on these articl - 06The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:59:09] <exec> 08└─I don't agree that stories concerning career prospects in IT are out of bounds for SN. What we *don't* want are Dice-style articles offering advice on how to prepare for a resume, how to follow up with thank you's after the interview, that kind of thing. That is fluff that doesn't belong on either s...
[05:59:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:One China - 06China's Censorship Apparatus Employs "Great Cannon", a Selective Nation-State DoS Tool - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:59:27] <exec> 08└─But their food tastes like #2.
[05:59:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:Very interesting - 06California News Photographers Want to Keep Their Drones - 599 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:59:56] <exec> 08└─>Interesting question: where DO my property rights end? If I remember correctly, the jurisdiction of a country out toward the ocean was initially decided by the range of cannonfire, although of course with modern artillery this is no longer true. I think we should do the same here and go with shotgu...
[06:00:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] 02"free Chromebook" - 06Linux Foundation Giving Away Chromebooks - 494 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:00:20] <exec> 08└─Isn't "free Chromebook" the oxymoron to end all oxymorons, as Google took the free Linux ecosystem and exploited it to build a walled garden on top of it that is the exact opposite of the hacker ethos that made the Linxux operating system possible in the first place? Why would a Linux foundation sup...
[06:00:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:Obligatory.... - 06Linux Foundation Giving Away Chromebooks - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:00:24] <exec> 08└─Does your laptop support Coreboot? ...
[06:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03el_oscuro [1711] (Score:2) 02Re:Garbage - 06Best Windows 10 Resources - 443 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:01:58] <exec> 08└─But this is not Microsoft or Apple code, this is Linux code, and so at this point your computer begins to behave very differently from what you are accustomed to. Cryptic messages began to scroll up the screen. Unfortunately, for most distros, you are incorrect. Most these days have a crappy splash...
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[06:55:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Why not have a kickstarter? - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:55:44] <exec> 08└─Crowdbegging solves everything.
[06:55:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02think of the children fucking - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:55:45] <exec> 08└─you are now a pedophile
[06:55:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 1097 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:55:46] <exec> 08└─Public schools are a failure. You can argue that, but you'll never win. The public school system, administered from Washington, via the state governments, is an utter failure. Government owes each child a free education, up through about the 8th grade. That was pretty much settled back around 1800 o...
[06:57:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02So it's good to be poor? - 06'Role Model' Bhutan Takes Zen Approach to Climate Change - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:57:15] <exec> 08└─Bhutan does well on the CO2 scale primary because it is poor, and has no industry to speak of. While it is moving in a good direction, it has a long ways to go to reach first-world life expectancy, medical care, standard of living, etc.. I like civilization, thanks. Maybe the authors of TFA can find...
[06:57:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03_NSAKEY [16] (Score:2) 023 words for passphrases? Really? - 06Linux Foundation Releases PARANOID Internal Infosec Guide - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:57:28] <exec> 08└─The passphrase advice isn't even remotely in line with current best practices. Diceware [std.com] recommends 6 word passphrases now, and even that probably isn't paranoid enough.
[06:57:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Assholes - 06How Comcast is Changing Tactics in Response to Cord Cutters - 387 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:57:38] <exec> 08└─> Not to mention that Comcast has no technical reason for doing this and that it's solely a business tactic: And for actual proof, in Chattanooga Tennessee where they compete with EPB's gigabit service, there are no caps. Here's the list of all the zip codes where Comcast is capping users [stoptheca...
[06:58:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ahh freedom. - 06The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:58:34] <exec> 08└─It takes a while to figure out how to contract effectively. Of course people are going to grumble until they get their sea legs. You expect them to be happy while tripping and flopping on the deck? Grumbling is venting, and people feel better after venting. Workers of the world, vent!
[06:58:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ahh freedom. - 06The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:58:45] <exec> 08└─Dale Carnegie is right: hard work is not the answer. You gotta kiss up to make it in a human world. (Dale doesn't call it "kiss up", but it's what it really is.)
[06:58:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] 02level the playing field - 06The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - 2203 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:58:55] <exec> 08└─This is about exploitation, not evolution. Of course change, and evolution, always happens. This change, to flex labor, could be to everyone's benefit, but seems more likely to be just another of the many unfair and unwise changes employers have made to tilt the playing field even more their way. Th...
[06:59:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Very interesting - 06California News Photographers Want to Keep Their Drones - 1644 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:57] <exec> 08└─Runaway, oh my dear Runaway! Yes, of course! I cannot believe how much you have missed the point! You are not supposed to try to refute the analogy, you are supposed to argue that it does not apply! Now some of us think that abortion is a very good thing, since it kills those damn savages you wan...
[06:59:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Very interesting - 06California News Photographers Want to Keep Their Drones - 1232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:58] <exec> 08└─"attachment is the source of suffering, and Real Estate is the worst." I've been down that trail of thought, often enough. Maybe it would help you to understand, if you knew that the woman and the property were a package deal. Hell, I didn't even KNOW about the property - I kidnapped the hot young t...
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[07:55:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:54] <exec> 08└─Children are disobedient morons who squander their education. We have been saying that since around 1800 BC or earlier. OH YES. It feels SO GOOD to beat that dead horse. Fuck you, sir; you are an asshole.
[07:55:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:55] <exec> 08└─I like the idea of an education credit that would let parents more easily have school options. I think that is where you were going with your post. Hopefully something like that would work out. Perhaps your sentence "So - if the child doesn't make use of the failing facilities that the government ma...
[07:55:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 794 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:57] <exec> 08└─I pretty much agree. Other states don't have a problem sending the money to where the parents think their kids can get the best education. Washington state, on the other hand managed to get the concept of a "common school" embedded into the state constitution in such a way that the lowest common den...
[07:55:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 919 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:55:59] <exec> 08└─Oh, frojack! It was sixth grade English, wasn't it? Mrs. Durocher? Just couldn't diagram those sentences, so you came to the conclusion that public education was a scam and that teachers were meanies, and so teacher unions were meanies. Let me tell you something. Teachers in charter schools want un...
[07:56:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:01] <exec> 08└─Public schools are a failure.
[07:56:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02And? - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 1006 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:56:03] <exec> 08└─Whereas! Yes, you can read it, "Whereas". As in: Whereas the Constitution of said state supports and funds education for all its citizens of the appropriate age, AND, Whereas, charter schools do not guarantee education for all citizens of said state of the appropriate age, AND, Whereas the propriet...
[07:56:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:And? - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:05] <exec> 08└─no one should ever make money off of: grandmothers
[07:56:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And? - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:07] <exec> 08└─Ah! Another entrepreneurial graduate of a charter school! Sorry, you could not afford gramma!
[07:56:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03penguinoid [5331] (Score:2) 02Private schools should be publicly funded - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 753 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:56:08] <exec> 08└─I'm in favor of giving people money toward education, but I don't see why that should be limited to government-run schools. In fact, there's also a danger in having the government deciding how the children are educated (even if the only problem is large-scale bureaucracy). And there's definitely a d...
[07:56:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Freedom? Choice? - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 832 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:56:10] <exec> 08└─Freedom to choose is pretty ingrained in the US mindset, and it would seem that charter schools fill a gap for the majority. There is no stealing occurring, it is the "consumer" making a different purchasing decision. We have tried to apply standardized curriculum, along with testing to measure, and...
[07:56:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Parallax - 06Using Stellar 'Twins' to Reach the Outer Limits of the Galaxy - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:56:17] <exec> 08└─Wouldn't is be possible to get better parallax measurements by just putting the satellites to some outer planet? Of course not too far out (because then the time to do the parallax measurement would be too large), but I could imagine that already a satellite around Jupiter would give a nice improvem...
[07:56:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Yeah, right... - 06Tor-Enabled Debian Mirrors - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:28] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I don't get the reason for using TOR. The only draw here seems to be to prevent someone else from determining what OS you are using. But who cares about that? Your browser gives you away on the first web server you hit, tor or no tor. So even if you ALWAYS use TOR, your bandwidth provider is g...
[07:56:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:True dark sky is amazing - 06Bring on the Night, say National Park Visitors in New Study - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:43] <exec> 08└─Close to the Continental Divide, North America, January? Cross-country skiing by nothing but star-light, never saw a sky so bright before or since. The ice crystals covering the ground probably helped.
[07:56:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:True dark sky is amazing - 06Bring on the Night, say National Park Visitors in New Study - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:44] <exec> 08└─My city wife loved the dates I would take her on out of town
[07:57:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Age of Universe - 06Astronomers Detect the Farthest Galaxy Yet With Keck Telescope - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:57:18] <exec> 08└─Yes, really. Problem?
[07:57:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kell [292] (Score:2) 02Re:Age of Universe - 06Astronomers Detect the Farthest Galaxy Yet With Keck Telescope - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:57:19] <exec> 08└─The informative wiki page says 3.798±0.037 billion years: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[07:57:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Impressed - 06'Role Model' Bhutan Takes Zen Approach to Climate Change - 525 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:57:41] <exec> 08└─Not only are they doing more than most other countries (and yes points about their size and industrial capacity are good) but the politician is humble and a realist? ""I feel that calling Bhutan a role model is not appropriate, every country has their own sets of challenges and their own sets opport...
[07:57:52] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] 02Watching logs - 06Linux Foundation Releases PARANOID Internal Infosec Guide - 619 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:57:52] <exec> 08└─This caught my eye...from the article: Watching logs You should have a keen interest in what happens on your system. For this reason, you should install logwatch and configure it to send nightly activity reports of everything that happens on your system. This won't prevent a dedicated attacker, but...
[07:59:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03penguinoid [5331] (Score:2) 02Re:Ahh freedom. - 06The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:59:11] <exec> 08└─One life's lesson I've learned is that a lot depends on one's own attitude. If one constantly works around complaining, and feeling sorry for oneself, bemoaning how much of a victim they are, than that's exactly what they'll always be. A victim.
[08:00:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Very interesting - 06California News Photographers Want to Keep Their Drones - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:00:28] <exec> 08└─Well as the original objector to your post said, Runaway, you tell a hell of a story.
[08:00:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03deimios [201] 02Re:small screens - 06Linux Foundation Giving Away Chromebooks - 302 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:00:48] <exec> 08└─Yeah, nobody likes small screens. That's why mobile computing never took off. It's like you go online on a PC or not at all. Nothing like waiting to get home to my PC so I can SSH into my server to reboot some poorly written webapp, couldn't do that from a netbook on the road. That would be blasphem...
[08:01:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02(Non-)Truth in advertising - 06Linux Foundation Giving Away Chromebooks - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:01:04] <exec> 08└─They don't give you a free Chromebook. That Chromebook is no more for free than the "free" phones you get with a phone contract. Note the following part: The following purchases are not eligible for this promotion: Free courses (such as the edX LFS101x course)
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[08:56:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:56:20] <exec> 08└─Yes - and you are obviously someone's child . . . And, that's "Mr. Asshole" to you. I was a perfect asshole before your daddy ever started playing with his little pee-pee.
[08:56:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:56:24] <exec> 08└─You seem to have missed a few years of your own education. Charter Schools are not the same thing as private schools. Charters are small, and they couldn't care less about unionization.
[08:56:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 874 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:56:25] <exec> 08└─Camel's nose private schools, that is what they are. Charter Schools (which, after all, are businesses) probably couldn't care less (hey! got the idiom right!) about unionization, but that was not my point. Teachers, on the other hand, really do not see themselves as working class unionists, until t...
[08:56:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 833 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:56:28] <exec> 08└─Sorry, but no. Within TFS and TFA, they are arguing for "local control". THAT is a very good idea. LOCAL control. But, see, they people who want to outlaw the charter schools don't really want "local control" at all. What they really want, is that they have control. Not the locals, but the state cap...
[08:56:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:56:30] <exec> 08└─Public schools are a failure. You can argue that, but you'll never win.
[08:56:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:56:31] <exec> 08└─I'm glad to see that my fan club is happy and well. What would you do without me?
[08:56:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Freedom? Choice? - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 1604 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:56:37] <exec> 08└─Consumers? What the F*** are you saying? Did you graduate from a charter school? Or were you "home schooled"? There are no "consumers" of education, get that filthy idea right out of your mind right now! The rest of what you say is reasonable, except you do not see the ploy that Republicans are pu...
[08:56:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Freedom? Choice? - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 654 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:56:38] <exec> 08└─Washington is a hopelessly liberal state. You would think that would mean choice would prevail. Nope. It means only one solution, state mandates, teacher union controlled public schools. Funding Education [ballotpedia.org] is the number one mandate for the state as set forth in the constitution. The...
[08:56:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Freedom? Choice? - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 600 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:56:40] <exec> 08└─"Washington is a hopelessly liberal state." Substitute the word "collectivist" for the word "liberal". Then play around with the definitions of "collectivist". Libs have a strong herding instinct. That is, they are afraid of individualism. They fear people who think differently. Thinking outside the...
[08:56:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:No one will be going there. - 06Using Stellar 'Twins' to Reach the Outer Limits of the Galaxy - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:56:48] <exec> 08└─My body will eventually turn to dust, but you've managed to drag my spirit into the mud. Thanks a lot.
[08:56:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My Twin Sisters: Hole in the Attic - 06Using Stellar 'Twins' to Reach the Outer Limits of the Galaxy - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:56:51] <exec> 08└─You missed the bit when the dad came home, and being a cop. Had no choice but to arrest them all for kiddy porn and have them placed on the sex offenders list.
[08:56:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:What? - 06Using Stellar 'Twins' to Reach the Outer Limits of the Galaxy - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:56:53] <exec> 08└─Well, the submitter just mindlessly copied the beginning of the article (as is sadly far too common here). Here's one paragraph from the article that actually summarizes the new method quite well: "It's a remarkably simple idea - so simple that it's hard to believe no one thought of it before," said...
[08:57:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yeah, right... - 06Tor-Enabled Debian Mirrors - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:57:05] <exec> 08└─The only draw here seems to be to prevent someone else from determining what OS you are using. But who cares about that? Your browser gives you away on the first web server you hit, tor or no tor.
[08:57:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:True dark sky is amazing - 06Bring on the Night, say National Park Visitors in New Study - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:57:21] <exec> 08└─and never fails to disappoint
[08:58:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Zen. - 06'Role Model' Bhutan Takes Zen Approach to Climate Change - 402 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:58:19] <exec> 08└─To clarify further, there are a number of traditions or schools of Buddhism, including Zen, Vajrayana, and Theravada. They practice Vajrayana Buddhism in Bhutan. Zen is mostly found in China, Japan, Vietnam and Korea. The two traditions are quite different. The confusion in the article is kind of l...
[08:58:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score:2) 02Paranoid Penguinista - 06Linux Foundation Releases PARANOID Internal Infosec Guide - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:58:35] <exec> 08└─So the next Ubuntu release will be called Paranoid Penguinista? I am shocked, I tell you, shocked!
[08:58:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:Assholes - 06How Comcast is Changing Tactics in Response to Cord Cutters - 96 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:58:54] <exec> 08└─No, still convinced that eliminating government grants of monopoly is the best way to handle it.
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[09:55:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Translation - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:55:57] <exec> 08└─"We don't like to be plagiarized, so we're not giving our stuff away anymore. It's to expensive to defend our trademark and copyright, so we're changing the rules of the game." I kinda think these guys have an inflated sense of their own importance. Personally, I've never used their products. I gues...
[09:55:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Makes no sense - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 459 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:55:58] <exec> 08└─They complained that a company took unstable code and called it "grsecurity" code (which it was). Now they are limiting access to the stable code, while leaving the unstable code available.. ..so that exact situation can still happen. What. Also: > stable patches of grsecurity will be permanently un...
[09:56:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Interesting) 02Copyleft is NOT Public Domain - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:56:00] <exec> 08└─based on the GPL'd work called "Linux". Guess I was wrong.
[09:56:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Copyleft is NOT Public Domain - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:56:02] <exec> 08└─Therefore, two weeks from now, we will cease the public dissemination of the stable series and will make it available to sponsors only.
[09:56:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Copyleft is NOT Public Domain - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:56:04] <exec> 08└─But the GPL does promise that you can do what you like with it, without any restriction other than preserving GPL terms. So, it only takes one person to subscribe to their "improvements", and publish them for everyone to use.
[09:56:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Freedom? Choice? - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:56:32] <exec> 08└─"Washington is a hopelessly liberal state."
[09:57:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02why tor? - 06Tor-Enabled Debian Mirrors - 1098 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:57:05] <exec> 08└─The features of tor are: interface with web traffic, which a package manager does not need, and onion routing, which is overkill for this use case (whom are you hiding from? a guy who can snoop on all your traffic from any peer, yet is not powerful enough to use secret-service-level hacking methods...
[09:57:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score:2) 02Re:"Dark" skies a misnomer - 06Bring on the Night, say National Park Visitors in New Study - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:57:21] <exec> 08└─It is a lot of fun to go deep into a cave and then turn the lights out. I know friends who have had total light failures while km underground and had to crawl/feel their way out.
[09:57:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Bullshit stats - 06Bring on the Night, say National Park Visitors in New Study - 691 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:57:22] <exec> 08└─> According to the study, led by Robert Manning of the University of Vermont, 99 percent of the world's skies suffer from light pollution and two-thirds of Americans can't see the Milky Way from their homes. Call bullshit on that stat. So way out there in the pacific/atlantic? That's light polluted...
[09:57:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Age of Universe - 06Astronomers Detect the Farthest Galaxy Yet With Keck Telescope - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:57:58] <exec> 08└─It should note that is an estimate based on current knowledge, or something to that effect.
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[10:55:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Translation - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 571 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:55:45] <exec> 08└─"several very large companies in the embedded Linux world who have gone beyond simply taking advantage of our work. Not only has the entire embedded industry as a whole not contributed a single dime toward our continued development and maintenance (despite our work being critical to the security of...
[10:55:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Copyleft is NOT Public Domain - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 58 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:55:47] <exec> 08└─based on the GPL'd work called "Linux". Guess I was wrong.
[10:55:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03ThePhilips [5677] (Score:1) 02Re:Copyleft is NOT Public Domain - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:55:51] <exec> 08└─But the GPL does promise that you can do what you like with it, without any restriction other than preserving GPL terms. So, it only takes one person to subscribe to their "improvements", and publish them for everyone to use.
[10:55:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Copyleft is NOT Public Domain - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:55:53] <exec> 08└─Also, the Linux=GPL snark is utterly irrelevant unless GRSecurity is being distributed as a binary without sources. Which it isn't. They're playing the game to the rules. They're pissed off by big guys who aren't. I know they can't name names, but would be interested in knowing who to sneer at.
[10:55:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03cloud.pt [5516] (Score:1) 02How to un'GPL 101 - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 684 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:55:55] <exec> 08└─Personally, I find the hypocrisy of this amusing: they just unGPL'd their Linux modifications arguing that other parties abused their own GPL license. I'm not super-duper-savvy about the inner workings of a GPL license, but the general feeling which I abide to has always been that GPL is commercial...
[10:55:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How to un'GPL 101 - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 486 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:55:57] <exec> 08└─The GPL isn't just commercial cancer, it's blatantly communist. Programmers are supposed to work for the government and be paid through taxation. We joke about the Microsoft Tax, yet such a tax is exactly what Stallman proposed in the GNU Manifesto. All sorts of development can be funded with a Sof...
[10:55:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Only thing that makes my life complete, - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:55:58] <exec> 08└─You'll never feel quite the same, When you get a whiff of my Hershey stains, I wanna poop on you too, I want to pee in your food, Only thing that makes my life complete, Is when I turn your face into a toliet seat, I want to pee on you, Yes I do, Yes I do I'll pee on you, I'll piss on you
[10:56:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Walzmyn [987] (Score:1) 02Re:And? - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 504 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:56:21] <exec> 08└─"Principles: There are some things no one should ever make money off of: grandmothers, war, education, medicine, death, but especially, education. F**king Charter School Mercenaries!" Education and Medicine are services. Are you saying we should not pay people for their services? Both require the on...
[10:56:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:1) 02Fascinating - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:56:28] <exec> 08└─I found this a fascinating discussion, but unfortunately I think I didn't understand any of it.
[10:56:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Re:No one will be going there. - 06Using Stellar 'Twins' to Reach the Outer Limits of the Galaxy - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:56:38] <exec> 08└─It may be too late for us, but our offspring will someday leave this planet. I'm willing to bet that the first people to do so are alive already today. It will be a lot easier too if we can manage to master religions for the masses, in order to keep them from going medieval while perversely using mo...
[10:57:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02what is the best way to... - 06Tor-Enabled Debian Mirrors - 685 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:57:03] <exec> 08└─what is the best way to safely distribute software packages for both the person making the deb packages available and the persons that is downloading them? Perhaps most importantly for software your police state government don't like, lets say a game that makes fun of your country's prime minister/p...
[10:57:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Walzmyn [987] (Score:1) 02Re:"Dark" skies a misnomer - 06Bring on the Night, say National Park Visitors in New Study - 581 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:57:21] <exec> 08└─Oh yes. That same lake Powell trip I referenced above began with a night's stay at the Grand Canyon. We arrived well past dark but I walked out to the little knee wall they had at the edge of the rim. It was spooky as hell. There was some light back at the hotel a good ways behind me, then over this...
[10:57:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Re:exposed to the atmosphere - 06This Plastic Heals Itself - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:57:33] <exec> 08└─That's funny, you kept reading but still didn't understand what I wrote.
[10:59:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Re:Antennae need not yield poor reception - 06How Comcast is Changing Tactics in Response to Cord Cutters - 355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:59:13] <exec> 08└─That depends on where you live. I'm up in the Northern part of the SF Bay Area, and while it was possible to get analog antenna reception back in the day, digital antenna is a no-go. I've heard that with a massive oldschool size-of-a-70s-custom-van roof antenna it's possible to pick up some of the S...
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[11:55:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Curiosity - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 573 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:55:51] <exec> 08└─At this point, it really is nothing more than a curiosity. Something to jack your jaws over, the "owners" get some kind of bragging rights. Until, of course, the chips are duplicated. Then the bad guys can walk in like they own the place. The chips can't be the ONLY means of identification. The comp...
[11:55:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Curiosity - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:55:52] <exec> 08└─Joke's on you. Guy's got two chips, see. Two chips gonna solve every thing.
[11:55:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:Curiosity - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:55:53] <exec> 08└─all you hand belong to us ! ! ! i foresee a growth market in machetes...
[11:55:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03jamestrexx [5363] (Score:1) 02Re:Curiosity - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:55:55] <exec> 08└─Indeed, the first thought I had; Hand, meet axe. Axe, meet hand.
[11:55:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Re:Curiosity - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:55:57] <exec> 08└─I believe duplication would require very close proximity because NFC's range is only about 20 cm (7.8 inches) at the most. If the challenge has key verification in itself, it would be even more difficult. Physical access changes everything of course, but it's not like you can just pickpocket someone...
[11:55:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Curiosity - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:55:59] <exec> 08└─pickpocket someone's hand
[11:55:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Curiosity - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 564 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:56:00] <exec> 08└─Except for being implanted, this seems a lot like a keyless ignition keyfob for a car. And, those don't seem to be very secure, now that repeaters are available. Another keyless alternative -- when I lived in a place with many roommates, one of the EE grads rigged up "Yorick", a plastic skull with...
[11:56:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02And then government mandated chipping, right? - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:56:02] <exec> 08└─How soon we forget the mandatory "career chips" of Futurama or the episode "Zig Zag" of The Outer Limits. Oh, I'm sorry, both were broadcast before 9/11 and then all the stupid fuckers like you (that's right: you) voted for BUSH and OBAMA. Thanks, fuckers. You're all shit. All of you.
[11:56:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I wanna really, really, really wanna zigazig ah - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 517 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:56:04] <exec> 08└─Yo, I'll tell you what I want, what I really, really want So tell me what you want, what you really, really want I'll tell you what I want, what I really, really want So tell me what you want, what you really, really want I wanna, (ha) I wanna, (ha) I wanna, (ha) I wanna, (ha) I wanna really, really...
[11:56:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fembot - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 2230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:56:06] <exec> 08└─I've got some news for you Fembots have feelings too You split my heart in two Now what you gonna do? Once you gone tech You ain't never going back I'm hi-tech, baby Fresh out the box the latest model Generator running on full throttle Can I get a fuel up? Hit the bottle (Reboot) I got a lotta autom...
[11:56:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02your face is your password, recognize it - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:56:07] <exec> 08└─Does your wife demand identification before she lets you fuck her?
[11:56:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Re:your face is your password, recognize it - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:56:09] <exec> 08└─No, but neither does yours.
[11:56:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Comments - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:56:11] <exec> 08└─These comments suck.
[11:56:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Comments - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:56:13] <exec> 08└─Including yours, cracked pot, black as nigger.
[11:56:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02phone - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 2206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:56:14] <exec> 08└─None of the arguments ever explain why its better than using an app on my phone or some handheld device. Because its 2015 and culturally incorrect to assume there are any humans without smartphones permanently attached to their hands. Generally the device solution works better. Note that companies a...
[11:56:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I want to keep my limps thank you very much - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:56:16] <exec> 08└─So instead of stealing keys or "nicely" asking for a code they now simple cut off my limbs to gain access? Sigh, why are people so stupid?
[11:56:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I want to keep my limps thank you very much - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:56:18] <exec> 08└─Stupid is as stupid does. All the trendy people are getting chips. You want to be trendy don't you.
[11:56:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Translation - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 367 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:56:20] <exec> 08└─"We don't like to be plagiarized, so we're not giving our stuff away anymore. It's to expensive to defend our trademark and copyright, so we're changing the rules of the game." I kinda think these guys have an inflated sense of their own importance. Personally, I've never used their products. I gues...
[11:56:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormreaver [5101] (Score:2) 02Re:Copyleft is NOT Public Domain - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:56:26] <exec> 08└─Copyleft covers copying ONLY.
[11:56:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Copyleft is NOT Public Domain - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:56:28] <exec> 08└─There's no problem with distributing patches alone without the rest of the kernel sources, as long as GRSecurity offers to provide the rest of the kernel sources to anyone who asks for them. And no, GRSecurity can't prohibit paying customers from making the patches publicly available, but they can j...
[11:56:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormreaver [5101] (Score:2) 02Re:How to un'GPL 101 - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:56:30] <exec> 08└─...so I'll take any argument stating GPL can be commercial "if this or that" with a big ass grain of salt.
[11:56:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02''they couldn't care less about unionization'' - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:56:49] <exec> 08└─Think again. Firing Day at a Charter School [wordpress.com] -- gewg_
[11:57:00] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aristarchus [2645] 02Re:Freedom? Choice? - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 1604 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:57:00] <exec> 08└─Consumers? What the F*** are you saying? Did you graduate from a charter school? Or were you "home schooled"? There are no "consumers" of education, get that filthy idea right out of your mind right now! The rest of what you say is reasonable, except you do not see the ploy that Republicans are pu...
[11:58:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:scrap the big bang already :D - 06Astronomers Detect the Farthest Galaxy Yet With Keck Telescope - 806 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:58:29] <exec> 08└─science is observation -> theory -> prediction -> verification. When it stays there I have no problems with science. When folks laugh at the "turtles all the way down" hindu model without admitting that it's feasible to build a sphere made entirely of turtles on top of each other (put the first two...
[11:59:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Re:Antennae need not yield poor reception - 06How Comcast is Changing Tactics in Response to Cord Cutters - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:59:53] <exec> 08└─Having said that, even without antenna reception we haven't bothered with Comcast in several years now as it just got to be far too expensive. Instead, since my mother's a devoted TV-watcher, my brother (who still gets cable) set up a Slingbox attached to a second cable box for her to watch through...
[12:00:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] 02Re:Ahh freedom. - 06The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - 410 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:00:09] <exec> 08└─It is the same as the "everyone is part time" thing that Walmart and other big retailers did back in the 90's. They would actually threaten to fire my poor mom if she dared work over 24 or whatever hours a week. Of course they still expected her to get the work of a full time employee done. Now that...
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[12:55:51] <exec> 08└─Door handles are everywhere
[12:55:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Curiosity - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:55:52] <exec> 08└─Being a small chip, the antenna will be very small. Reading from it even at a centimeter will be a pain for a low power reader.
[12:56:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score:2) 02You can pry my ID chips - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:56:04] <exec> 08└─from my cold, dead hands. Oh wait...
[12:56:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Re:How to un'GPL 101 - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:26] <exec> 08└─This works very well for custom-made software, and I don't think anyone has a problem with that model (I suppose that this was one of the main scenarios RMS and the FSF had in mind). For more generic software this model is a little harder to rationalize since there is incentive to share (opening up...
[12:56:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:50] <exec> 08└─If this is the case, wouldn't that money be better spent at turning public schools into a non-failure?
[12:56:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:53] <exec> 08└─More or less agree but in this particular case the law isn't worded to allow it. Which sucks for the kids.
[12:56:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:And? - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 1235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:56:58] <exec> 08└─A close reading would show he's obviously implying a non-profit corporate structure. Its not like the station engineer at the local PBS station gets paid any more or less than the station engineer at the local for-profit station, at the low level there's virtually no difference. You will occasionall...
[12:57:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Freedom? Choice? - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:57:03] <exec> 08└─"The Public" is a handy fiction you lot have made up to justify tyranny over individuals; it does not exist except as a rhetorical construct used to exploit those who find themselves in one minority or another. The only rights are individual rights. The only good is the good of the individual. All e...
[12:57:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Freedom? Choice? - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:57:07] <exec> 08└─Humanity? Sure, if you're a happy little libtard drone. Anything else, they'd happily force people into mandatory indoctrination camps. Which is pretty much exactly what just happened in WA.
[12:57:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Fascinating - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 1497 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:57:09] <exec> 08└─Well, I'll try a summary to help you out. Basically the government is a conduit to collect tax money from the richer half or so of the population, print a bunch of extra inflation money, and hand it to private companies either directly or indirectly by handing money to the poorer half or so of the p...
[12:57:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:Fascinating - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 2230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:57:11] <exec> 08└─i'll summarize our situation to date: 1. various bootlicks, toadies, and carpetbaggers (AKA lobbyists/politicians and media whores) plumping for komplete korporate kontrol of the education 'industry'; manage to have an obscene 'principle' taken as received wisdom: the bidness world is super-efficien...
[12:57:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Undemocratic Black Robed Tyrants - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:57:13] <exec> 08└─"Who shall rid us of these troublesome jurists?"
[12:58:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Age of Universe - 06Astronomers Detect the Farthest Galaxy Yet With Keck Telescope - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:58:41] <exec> 08└─Given the amount of disagreement in mainstream physics surrounding the age of the universe (not much) I think the word "about" covers it.
[12:59:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Simple solution - 06How Comcast is Changing Tactics in Response to Cord Cutters - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:53] <exec> 08└─Bug in system: addiction. There are people who won't feed their kids so they can keep watching TV.
[13:03:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:The sense of being stared at - 06Not On My Watch: Chimp Swats Film Crew’s Drone - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:32] <exec> 08└─Yes, there are a lot of very common, overly simplistic explanations that are not backed up by any observed evidence that would explain what was observed.
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[13:56:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:phone - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:56:01] <exec> 08└─The pass-cards are the same size as a credit card so you can put them in your wallet with all your other cards... You also don't want the range to be too far, or else every-time the maid / concierge / security walks down the hall, all the doors unlock... (The middle part of your 'story' is just idio...
[13:56:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Cyborg definition - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:56:06] <exec> 08└─This doesn't really read like cyborgs; there is no interaction between the electronics and the human body. The human body is used here exactly like your pants pockets, nothing more. We can and have done a lot more: we implant pacemakers to control human hearts daily. For a cyborg I expect there to b...
[13:56:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 1229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:56:51] <exec> 08└─That's ridiculous. What we have in WA is too much control over education locally. Every freaking time we elect new school board members they waste a lot of money trying to completely reinvent the wheel. We'll spend huge amounts of money on a new training one session and then when new school board me...
[13:57:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:No one will be going there. - 06Using Stellar 'Twins' to Reach the Outer Limits of the Galaxy - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:57:23] <exec> 08└─I'm more concerned with earth-bound corporations. All the bad parts of government, but without even a semblance of a check-and-ballance
[13:59:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03LowSpeedHighDrag [5592] (Score:1) 02Re:So it's good to be poor? - 06'Role Model' Bhutan Takes Zen Approach to Climate Change - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:59:08] <exec> 08└─The article does make the point that they are (supposedly) not concerned about material things so standard of living would mean something different to them vs you (or I). But I wholeheartedly agree that low life expectancy and poor medical care are pretty universal indicators that they live in an un...
[13:59:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03LowSpeedHighDrag [5592] (Score:1) 02Disingenuous - 06'Role Model' Bhutan Takes Zen Approach to Climate Change - 429 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:59:10] <exec> 08└─This bit seems very disingenuous to me: "According to Dr Marcia Rocha, it's not just a question of Bhutan being spectacularly endowed with natural advantages." It may not be 'just' this but it's damn easy to be high and mighty when you start from a position of "being spectacularly endowed with natur...
[14:00:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Ahh freedom. - 06The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:00:28] <exec> 08└─ORRRRrr, we could decide that the economy isn't fit for purpose and change it. Remove the glut through the basic income and/or shorter legally defined work hours. If ewe have to grab a few politicians by the ankles and make a wish, so be it.
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[14:55:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03pe1rxq [844] (Score:2) 02Re:Curiosity - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:55:52] <exec> 08└─So the bad guys will build a high power reader.... It doesn't really matter to them that they are microwaving their fictims testicles anyway. (Actually as a bonus they are improving the gene-pool, the guy was to stupid to carry a key anyway)
[14:56:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Too easy to steal - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:56:07] <exec> 08└─Put a near field reader in your shirt pocket, walk up to the mark, introduce yourself, shake their hand. Bingo, you can now replicate the embedded chip.
[14:56:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03eravnrekaree [555] (Score:1) 02Punishes everyone because of big corporation - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:56:31] <exec> 08└─What a way to punish a billion dollar corporation, take i out on the rest of the community, many common everyday users, who don't have anything to do with the billion dollar corporation. This action, if i am not mistaken, it appears will not have any effect on the big corporation, it mainly will hur...
[14:56:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 1097 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:56:43] <exec> 08└─Public schools are a failure. You can argue that, but you'll never win. The public school system, administered from Washington, via the state governments, is an utter failure. Government owes each child a free education, up through about the 8th grade. That was pretty much settled back around 1800 o...
[14:56:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 1499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:56:55] <exec> 08└─I think that you've helped my argument, more than anything. So, minority neighborhoods have their schools closed, and their children bussed miles away, just to sit in class with kids who are not minorities? WTF made you think that anyone had "local" control to start with? Quite obviously, the "local...
[14:57:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] 02Freedom? Choice? - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 832 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:57:06] <exec> 08└─Freedom to choose is pretty ingrained in the US mindset, and it would seem that charter schools fill a gap for the majority. There is no stealing occurring, it is the "consumer" making a different purchasing decision. We have tried to apply standardized curriculum, along with testing to measure, and...
[14:57:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:Freedom? Choice? - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 1353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:57:13] <exec> 08└─Libs have a strong herding instinct. That is, they are afraid of individualism. today is labor day in the US but I didn't think it was backwards day, too. the so-called conservatives are the ones you are thinking of. they are the ones who embrace religion, many of whom believe in quite literally. t...
[14:57:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:1, Flamebait) 02Re:Freedom? Choice? - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:57:15] <exec> 08└─Maybe when I'm old and senile, you can convert me to national socialism. By then I'll have forgotten what the Nazi party was all about.
[14:57:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Gewg, free yourself! - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:57:21] <exec> 08└─I pity Ms. Schneider's students if she routinely starts sentences with conjunctions--especially consecutive, redundant conjunctions.
[14:57:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03eravnrekaree [555] (Score:1) 02Bring on the charter schools - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 1261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:57:23] <exec> 08└─I for one am all for Charter Schools, and the concept of having smaller, community schools, especially up at the Middle and High School level. Why not give people a choice and alternatives from the factory that is often massive Public schools. I have seen what goes wrong on the inside of the mega-sc...
[14:57:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bring on the charter schools - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:57:24] <exec> 08└─You realize there's nothing in your post that's actually about charter schools. It's just the fallacy that since charter schools aren't public schools they must be better.
[14:57:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Parallax - 06Using Stellar 'Twins' to Reach the Outer Limits of the Galaxy - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:57:40] <exec> 08└─Theoretically if you had something like the Voyager/Pioneer/New Horizons set up to measure paralax, that would work. You could measure position of Star XXX relative to nearby known stars, and by knowing the position of the probe and the position of Earth you can measure paralax out to beyond Pluto o...
[14:58:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score:2) 02Re:True dark sky is amazing - 06Bring on the Night, say National Park Visitors in New Study - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:58:11] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I grew up in the country and thought I knew dark skies. Then we went on vacation to Hawaii, and took a tour to the summit of Mauna Kea [hawaii.edu] (where they have all the large research telescopes). We came back down below the snowline and went to a star party [hawaii.edu] there. It was one...
[14:58:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score:2) 02Re:Bullshit stats - 06Bring on the Night, say National Park Visitors in New Study - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:58:19] <exec> 08└─Without seeing the actual study I can't verify it's veracity or not. However, one might imagine that the scope of the lands mass taken into account might be limited to populated areas or land mass, and exclude all areas of ocean (correct or not).
[14:58:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score:2) 02Re:Bullshit stats - 06Bring on the Night, say National Park Visitors in New Study - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:58:20] <exec> 08└─> 99 percent of the world's skies > one might imagine that the scope of the lands mass taken into account might be limited to populated areas You are probably right - just that is not what TFA says; 'the world' I take to refer approximately to a sphere 6400 km in radius. Hence the statistic quoted i...
[14:58:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02Re:The Video - 06This Plastic Heals Itself - 29 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:58:38] <exec> 08└─The bullet hole did not heal.
[14:59:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score:2) 02Re:So it's good to be poor? - 06'Role Model' Bhutan Takes Zen Approach to Climate Change - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:59:23] <exec> 08└─> I like civilization, thanks. Maybe the authors of TFA can find some other role model to promote? In support of parent - I think gdp is roughly synonymous with "can supply an army in event of war". So the reason low gdp is bad (as opposed to low gnh) is that an army of bad guys in tanks can roll ov...
[15:01:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Training? - 06The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:01:05] <exec> 08└─Don't worry, the under-paid employees will be expected to pay for their own training, over and over.
[15:05:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:vertical farming - 06 Clever Technical Breakthrough Could Make LEDs as Inexpensive as Incandescents - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:05:16] <exec> 08└─It's been argued that vertical farming is a joke, but I think it's plausible given a set up using some sunlight, along with advanced/cheaper blue and red LEDs, and the expectation of year-round growth and less shipping costs.
[15:05:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Durability / energy-efficiency the same? - 06 Clever Technical Breakthrough Could Make LEDs as Inexpensive as Incandescents - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:05:19] <exec> 08└─de research paper (not free unfortunately is at) http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com [wiley.com]
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[15:56:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cyborg definition - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:56:09] <exec> 08└─I have a cochlear implant, am I a real cyborg?
[15:56:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Too easy to steal - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:56:11] <exec> 08└─I don't think that's how they work. Doesn't the emitter send a challenge to the nfd chip and the chip sends back a reply based on the challenge and its private key? The security comes from not being able to discover the key from any number of challenges.
[15:56:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02idiocracy - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:56:13] <exec> 08└─"When I walk into my studio, I just wave my hand at the alarm, and the alarm turns off," the tattoo artist said.
[15:56:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Copyleft is NOT Public Domain - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 429 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:56:29] <exec> 08└─Ah, so linux is distributed under a bare license, and thus any rightsholder (of which there are tens of thousands) can revoke Brad Spenglers permission to modify their work at any time (barring estoppel)... Or we under contract law where extrinsic evidence of the parties intentions at the time of th...
[15:56:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The rundown: - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 4027 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:56:38] <exec> 08└─Grsecurity is a 4MB patch of the linux kernel. For 14 years now Brad Spengler and "PaxTeam" have released to the public a patch to the kernel that prevents buffer overflows, adds address space protection, adds Access Control List functions, prevents various other security related errors (the program...
[15:56:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Short rundown - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 1801 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:56:40] <exec> 08└─Spengler announced he is closing grsecurity, he will only distribute to those who pay him 200 dollars per month grsecurity is a derivative work of the linux kernel, which has 10000s of rights holders Spengler only has permission to modify the linux kernel at the grace of those rights holders either:...
[15:56:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02A useful discussion and Further discussions: - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 3900 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:56:42] <exec> 08└─http://oxwugzccvk3dk6tj.onion/tech/res/346860.html [oxwugzccvk3dk6tj.onion] http://pipedot.org [pipedot.org] 11:01 -!- Irssi: Starting query in OFTC with secondparty 11:01 [secondparty] hello 11:01 [secondparty] I'm sorry I don't understand what is reproached to grsec team? 11:04 [Prty1]...
[15:56:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Discussion of legal arguments with GRSec Supporter - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 3643 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:56:44] <exec> 08└─-!- Irssi: Starting query in OFTC with ryao 23:14 [ryao] If you are an attorney, then here is some advice. Others in the channel know that the trademark case is weak. We just keep our mouths shut. 23:15 [cylinder] I don't. 23:15 [cylinder] Because once you stop...
[15:57:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bring on the charter schools - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:57:33] <exec> 08└─breeding grounds of bullying, crime and degenerate behaviour
[15:57:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02For the non-washingtonians, some background - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 4024 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:57:34] <exec> 08└─There's a hell of a lot of hidden story here which isn't actually covered in the summary or links, and most of it is the context created by the state's history. Washington's single most powerful lobby (in financial terms) is the teachers - even as a group distinct from the other public servants. The...
[15:57:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03eof [5559] (Score:2) 02Conjunctions - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 645 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:57:36] <exec> 08└─I haven't given much thought to charter schools, but here are some wise words on coordinating conjunctions (coordinators): [chronicle.com] [...]Nothing has ever banned coordinators from independent clauses. Yes, there are rules; for example, coordinators are prefixed in English, rather than suffixe...
[15:57:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No one will be going there. - 06Using Stellar 'Twins' to Reach the Outer Limits of the Galaxy - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:57:47] <exec> 08└─Sit down, shut up, and continue paying your fucking taxes.
[15:57:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Parallax - 06Using Stellar 'Twins' to Reach the Outer Limits of the Galaxy - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:57:55] <exec> 08└─But Pluto takes 248 years for one orbit, and so will every object out there. So a parallax measurement would need 124 years when done that for from the sun. While the accuracy would be great, the measurement would be a multi-generation project.
[15:59:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:scrap the big bang already :D - 06Astronomers Detect the Farthest Galaxy Yet With Keck Telescope - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:59:09] <exec> 08└─> the observable aspects of your theory. If you mean the no-big bang theory, OK, let's wait till it's perfected or falsified. But I think from the rest of your comment that you refer to the metaphysical aspects I brought in, in that case I wrote "idea" not theory, so your comment is right but off to...
[15:59:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:More concern needed - 06'Role Model' Bhutan Takes Zen Approach to Climate Change - 424 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:59:28] <exec> 08└─You'd need a global agreement to fund the costs of climate change by the people who make the money from it. Perhaps then there would be a global agreement to do something about it. However as there's no way you'd get that global agreement. Unfortunately capitalism breaks down when you can externalis...
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[16:00:17] <exec> 08└─Turning a utility into a competitive market has simply never worked
[16:04:18] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03inertnet [4071] 02They need an explanation? - 06Not On My Watch: Chimp Swats Film Crew’s Drone - 60 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:04:18] <exec> 08└─which could explain the drone antipathy felt by many humans.
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[16:55:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Curiosity - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 573 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:55:47] <exec> 08└─At this point, it really is nothing more than a curiosity. Something to jack your jaws over, the "owners" get some kind of bragging rights. Until, of course, the chips are duplicated. Then the bad guys can walk in like they own the place. The chips can't be the ONLY means of identification. The comp...
[16:56:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03yarp [2665] (Score:2) 02Old news! - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:56:14] <exec> 08└─Cats have been doing this for years! https://www.sureflap.com [sureflap.com]
[16:56:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03_NSAKEY [16] (Score:2) 02Re:Copyleft is NOT Public Domain - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 761 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:56:32] <exec> 08└─Two of the offending companies are almost certainly Intel and Verifone. Here, have a collection of links: https://twitter.com [twitter.com] https://twitter.com [twitter.com] https://www-ssl.intel.com
[16:56:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:The rundown: - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:56:42] <exec> 08└─Sounds like he missed a marketing opportunity. "You know [randomMovieStar] uses [randomProduct] -- now you can too!!"
[16:57:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:57:06] <exec> 08└─Good teachers help sell schools. Better pay will attract better teachers. If you chase out all the good teachers by driving down wages you put yourself out of business. Good pay and the ability to get rid of bad teachers (which most unions make exceptionally difficult to the point of near impossibil...
[16:57:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:And? - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:57:21] <exec> 08└─Principles: There are some things no one should ever make money off of: grandmothers, war, education, medicine, death, but especially, education. F**king Charter School Mercenaries!
[16:57:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Bring on the charter schools - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:57:39] <exec> 08└─It's just the fallacy that since charter schools aren't public schools they must be better.
[16:57:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:For the non-washingtonians, some background - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 592 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:57:42] <exec> 08└─So much wrong here. Not sure if the unions are the biggest lobbiest anymore. I'm pretty sure industry has far surpassed them. The unions if anything are weakening here as elsewhere. I urge people to look at the financing of I-1240; the initiative that put charter schools in the state. Heavy funding...
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[16:57:43] <exec> 08└─The teacher's union is, as of recent figures, the biggest single lobbying group in Washington. These are public figures, go check them out yourself. I see no reason to expect that this has changed in 2015, but I guess it's possible. You'll want to get the numbers from the public disclosure commissio...
[16:58:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02it is hopeless - 06Bring on the Night, say National Park Visitors in New Study - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:58:45] <exec> 08└─Humans instinctively associate light with safety and security, good luck overcoming that.
[16:59:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Age of Universe - 06Astronomers Detect the Farthest Galaxy Yet With Keck Telescope - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:59:26] <exec> 08└─Reminds me of the super precise radius of the proton.
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[17:01:49] <exec> 08└─"the whole point of working for someone else and the whole value of an employee is that they are exploitable." No, it is supposed to be an agreement between 2 parties, to the benefit of both. If all the benefits go to the employer, that's not employment any more, that's slavery. "employers like to d...
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[17:57:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 794 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:57:02] <exec> 08└─I pretty much agree. Other states don't have a problem sending the money to where the parents think their kids can get the best education. Washington state, on the other hand managed to get the concept of a "common school" embedded into the state constitution in such a way that the lowest common den...
[17:57:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03albert [276] (Score:2) 02mostly the same shit at a unionized public school - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 1319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:57:08] <exec> 08└─OK, I read it. That sounds kind of typical for education. Schools seems to attract small-minded paper pushers. It's just like how police departments attract bullies who love having power over others. What else is new, hmmm? Nobody is forced to work there. This isn't slavery. Evidently, some people f...
[17:57:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:57:13] <exec> 08└─Whoever pays for a thing usually controls that thing. It appears that the Washington state constitution assigns the responsibility to fund, and therefore the authority to control, to the state legislature. What is this local control you speak of?
[17:57:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03hash14 [1102] (Score:2) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 1128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:57:19] <exec> 08└─I don't really think you can argue in favor of charter schools because public schools are bad. I have no disagreement with your arguments against public schools. But I don't think giving unfettered control to private organizations who have absolutely no oversight and greedy corruptible interests is...
[17:57:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03hash14 [1102] (Score:2) 02Re:Private schools should be publicly funded - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:57:27] <exec> 08└─In fact, there's also a danger in having the government deciding how the children are educated (even if the only problem is large-scale bureaucracy).
[17:57:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03CyprusBlue [943] (Score:1) 02Re:Freedom? Choice? - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:57:31] <exec> 08└─Found the crazy
[17:57:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Freedom? Choice? - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:57:33] <exec> 08└─"But its all for the greater good!" "The greater gooooood" "SHUT IT!"
[17:57:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Freedom? Choice? - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 1097 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:57:35] <exec> 08└─Sweet jeebus, angry much? There was a reason I put "consumer" in the quotes... If you don't like the analogy then stop using it in the rest of your post. Provide more explanation please, your post is just an angry rant without much analysis. We need the flexibility of charter schools. Solve the prob...
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[18:00:32] <exec> 08└─Oh yes it has been tried, and the results are not good. For example, in 2000 the state of California deregulated electricity generation. The result was an 8-fold increase in prices and rolling blackouts across the state as the now-deregulated electric generating companies intentionally created short...
[18:00:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Strawman argument - 06How Comcast is Changing Tactics in Response to Cord Cutters - 500 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:00:33] <exec> 08└─> Ok, let's say you do that. Now, how does that look in practical terms? Because we've now gone from 1 set of cable strung up around the neighborhood to 30 sets of cable strung up around the neighborhood, No, that would be a stupid way to do it and nobody is proposing that or doing it like that (oth...
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[18:57:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:57:14] <exec> 08└─I think that you've helped my argument, more than anything. So, minority neighborhoods have their schools closed, and their children bussed miles away, just to sit in class with kids who are not minorities?
[18:57:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 992 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:57:15] <exec> 08└─What makes me think that there's local control over that is that we have a freaking school board that's voted on by the voters of the city. They also have meetings whenever there's a round of closures planned and for things like that. Just watching the proposed closures change when they actual closu...
[18:57:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 528 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:57:18] <exec> 08└─The school board. Each school district has it's own board. And they make most of the district's decisions. We have a statewide Office of Public Instruction, but they don't micromanage the districts. They do make some decisions and regulations, but there's the OPI, school board, Principal and ultimat...
[18:57:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 666 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:57:25] <exec> 08└─Fair points - but let me ask, don't the local school districts have any voice in the charter schools? If a charter school is doing a crap job, it seems that the school board that is doing business with the charter could always cancel contracts/agreements with the school. That would very likely put t...
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[19:00:22] <exec> 08└─I'm aware of that, I don't have HD now because DirecTV insists on charging me for that even though they were giving it away for free to new subscribers for a while. I'll be happier with the 3 SD programs that I can record while watching something else. That's more than what I have now and I never ne...
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[19:56:13] <exec> 08└─NFC Reader? My cell phone can do this, so it's not even an obvious thing. Introduce yourself? just stand next to him in an elevator. However, just to mess with him, after taking a copy, re-program the thing with a different code. As long as you get to his man-cave before he realizes he's been compro...
[19:56:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Well - 06For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:56:16] <exec> 08└─And my car has a rf key that just needs to be on my person and it unlocks and starts for me. I fail to see how this is innovative.
[19:56:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Copyleft is NOT Public Domain - 06GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:56:38] <exec> 08└─> but they can jack up the price until customers don't want to give away for free something that they paid a lot of money for. The presupposes that there is an actual set of prices at the intersection of "too expensive to give away" and "cheap enough to buy." I doubt it.
[19:57:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aristarchus [2645] 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 919 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:57:06] <exec> 08└─Oh, frojack! It was sixth grade English, wasn't it? Mrs. Durocher? Just couldn't diagram those sentences, so you came to the conclusion that public education was a scam and that teachers were meanies, and so teacher unions were meanies. Let me tell you something. Teachers in charter schools want un...
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[19:57:12] <exec> 08└─I grew up, and was educated outside the USA. I moved to the USA later in life. I have seen what kids here are taught, and how. I am disgusted by the low expectations, lax discipline and vast red tape. This has nothing to do with a bad experience in US schools, and everything to do with my children's...
[19:57:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 1045 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:57:14] <exec> 08└─I went to a charter school in Northfield Minnesota called Northfield School of Arts and Technology at the time, now called Arcadia Charter School. Everyone there is very passionate about education and their results show it. The majority of their graduates go on to 4 year universities. They do a lot...
[19:57:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 631 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:57:22] <exec> 08└─Why does the administration live far away from the schools they are administering? Call me an idiot - why are peole hiring principals who have no stake in the school's success? All of my principals and school administration people lived nearby when I was in school. In 5th & 6th grade, my principal l...
[19:57:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 1128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:57:23] <exec> 08└─You must live in a tiny town if you don't see the problem with that. The principals don't get to stay at one school for their entire career around here. They get to be there for as long as 8 years, but usually only a few years. And even if they did get to stay at the same school for the entire caree...
[19:57:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 1080 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:57:25] <exec> 08└─I disagree. People should have some attachment to their work. Their own kids and their neighbor's kids going to the school they work at is a far greater attachment than living miles away, in an unrelated district. Most cities have residency requirements for elected officials, as well as employees. S...
[20:00:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Assholes - 06How Comcast is Changing Tactics in Response to Cord Cutters - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:00:37] <exec> 08└─Oh yes it has been tried, and the results are not good. For example, in 2000 the state of California deregulated electricity generation
[20:01:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"campaign to win over" - 06How Comcast is Changing Tactics in Response to Cord Cutters - 542 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:01:03] <exec> 08└─Sounds more like they punishing you, and making it not economically feasible to avoid using their TV service if you use their internet service. Providing better service for less cost would be 'winning you over'. Hello, FCC, are you paying attention? Oh, and i predicted this the first time a 3rd str...
[20:02:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:level the playing field - 06The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:02] <exec> 08└─No, it is supposed to be an agreement between 2 parties, to the benefit of both. If all the benefits go to the employer, that's not employment any more, that's slavery.
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[20:57:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 1072 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:57:12] <exec> 08└─Point taken, the jab at frojack was uncalled for. Or at least not explicitly called for. Oh, hell, he was asking for it!! You have an interesting perspective. My response to fro, however, was based on one thing you don't mention: an ingrained anti-intellectualism in America that leads to dis-valuing...
[20:57:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Your case is the exception--not the rule - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 718 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:57:14] <exec> 08└─The 1st study I remember being done on charter schools was, interestingly enough, done on Washington State schools. It said that they did worse more than a third of the time and did better less than half of the time. [google.com] We also discussed here New Analysis Debunks the Myth of Charter School...
[20:57:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:57:27] <exec> 08└─If this is the case, wouldn't that money be better spent at turning public schools into a non-failure?
[20:57:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Freedom? Choice? - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:57:47] <exec> 08└─Mighty Buzz: I have tried to explain this to you before. The INDIVIDUAL is a fiction. No man is an island. Robinson Crusoe was fiction. You would not be you without the "us" that educated you. Time to grow out of the Libertarian fantasies.
[21:01:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Ahh freedom. - 06The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:01:45] <exec> 08└─telling them that those of us who don't complain about hurting are hardly ever in pain
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[21:56:41] <exec> 08└─Not saying anyone will ever make you change, but I think if you read the GPL carefully you will find that it demands that you make your modifications and improvements generally available - including to the original authors your work is based upon. Thing is, since they will never know that you have m...
[21:57:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aristarchus [2645] 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 874 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:57:09] <exec> 08└─Camel's nose private schools, that is what they are. Charter Schools (which, after all, are businesses) probably couldn't care less (hey! got the idiom right!) about unionization, but that was not my point. Teachers, on the other hand, really do not see themselves as working class unionists, until t...
[21:57:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Your case is the exception--not the rule - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 661 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:57:17] <exec> 08└─In other news, you need to read more broadly. Whatever you think of The Economist, they're renowned for their skilled display and explanation of statistics, and they have covered charter schools pretty extensively. Here's a link: http://www.economist.com [economist.com] But to...
[21:57:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''have to change my position'' - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 492 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:57:36] <exec> 08└─If the board lacks any control over the charter school, then I would have to change my position Yes, you went off half-cocked from the start. THE WHOLE POINT of charter schools is that there are SEPARATE and get to make up THEIR OWN RULES. All too often, they are run by crooks. [googleusercontent.co...
[21:57:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03hash14 [1102] (Score:2) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:57:37] <exec> 08└─don't the local school districts have any voice in the charter schools?
[21:57:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03hash14 [1102] (Score:2) 02Re:What nonsense. - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 884 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:57:39] <exec> 08└─Also, here's a great article I read a while ago detailing how things can go so drastically wrong with charters: http://www.propublica.org [propublica.org] The National Association of Charter School Authorizers, a group...
[21:57:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02A shameless Thatcherite - 06Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - 992 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:57:53] <exec> 08└─The downward spiral in which we now find ourselves had a strong inflection point with the rise of Margaret Thatcher. "There is no such thing as society." [google.com] Thatcher's legacy is one of a reduced quality of life for the vast majority. Margaret Thatcher’s Criminal Legacy [googleusercontent...
[21:58:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Walzmyn [987] 02True dark sky is amazing - 06Bring on the Night, say National Park Visitors in New Study - 492 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:58:48] <exec> 08└─I grew up in the country. We had a pretty good view of the sky. My city wife loved the dates I would take her on out of town so she could see what she never saw growing up. Then we got a chance to spend a week on Lake Powell. It's a class 1 night sky; if you don't have a light with you, there's not...
[22:00:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Disingenuous - 06'Role Model' Bhutan Takes Zen Approach to Climate Change - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:00:09] <exec> 08└─He is the Prime Minister. There are certain expectations of leaders in every culture including but not limited to being a role model and having the humility to pretend they are not a role model.
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