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[06:03:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:who needs a bomb? - 06The Coming Terrorist Threat From Autonomous Vehicles - 752 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:03:10] <exec> 08└─How did we get from Driverless to Autonomous? First, all you need do is make it impossible for a driverless car to undertake any journey without a live human inside. There are many ways that this can be accomplished. More than one would probably be employed. But the idea that just anyone would be al...
[06:03:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:who needs a bomb? - 06The Coming Terrorist Threat From Autonomous Vehicles - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:03:12] <exec> 08└─Oh, forgot to mention, Google's self-driving cars can't handle bicycle track stands. http://www.engadget.com [engadget.com] Autonomous apparently is chock full of pitfalls.
[06:03:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Easy Fix - 06The Coming Terrorist Threat From Autonomous Vehicles - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:03:22] <exec> 08└─Seems like a straightforward problem with a straightforward solution. If there is a living person in the car who can respond to prompts then no need to do anything different from the way cars are today. If the car is unoccupied, being sent somewhere like to pick up groceries or the kids after school...
[06:03:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02So what's the difference again... - 06The Coming Terrorist Threat From Autonomous Vehicles - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:03:23] <exec> 08└─... between a UAV loaded with explosives and a cruise missile?
[06:03:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I really don't get the "radical" - 06New Theory: Electromagnetic Energy Without Radiation - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:03:51] <exec> 08└─so what about hydrogen atoms?
[06:04:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:makes sense, but... - 06This World of Ours - An Essay on Security - 437 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:04:46] <exec> 08└─Depends. If he finds a way to invoke "stand your ground" (e.g. by pulling his gun and afterwards having a reasonable feeling that AnonymousCowardNoMore might also pull a gun and shoot him), he might walk free? Or if he waits for nightfall and claims he perceived him as a black person? (If ACNM is ac...
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[06:57:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03ticho [89] (Score:2) 02Compound effect - 06High Protein Foods Boost Cardiovascular Health as Much as Quitting Smoking or Getting Exercise - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:57:21] <exec> 08└─Think of what eating food with these specific amino acids _and_ stopping smoking and getting excercise would do to you. You would be so healthy you would probably age in reverse!
[06:57:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02high protein eh... - 06High Protein Foods Boost Cardiovascular Health as Much as Quitting Smoking or Getting Exercise - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:57:23] <exec> 08└─i'ma sooo tell my wife this ;-)
[06:57:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Alternatives? - 06High Protein Foods Boost Cardiovascular Health as Much as Quitting Smoking or Getting Exercise - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:57:24] <exec> 08└─Anyone read the paper? Think up an alternative explanation or two and post it. It may start an interesting thread. I don't bother with nutrition stuff anymore.
[06:57:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Alternatives? - 06High Protein Foods Boost Cardiovascular Health as Much as Quitting Smoking or Getting Exercise - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:57:26] <exec> 08└─Well Nuts. No I mean Nuts are associated with good health. Oh you mean alternative hypothesis. No grant money for those.
[06:57:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:who needs a bomb? - 06The Coming Terrorist Threat From Autonomous Vehicles - 1159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:57:37] <exec> 08└─Heh. Not enough detail in that link, but I think I see two faults in the programming. First, the car should have been aware of whatever was causing the bicycle to be stopped - a red light or something, I presume. Cross traffic? Pedestrians? Whatever, the car should have been tracking that, as well a...
[06:57:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Johnny Cab? - 06The Coming Terrorist Threat From Autonomous Vehicles - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:57:43] <exec> 08└─gsjklfjglsdjgldsjflhsbl;jalkgjsdflgjdsflkjsudotaue0toglsdnglrhjfo[sud8gpr e[=reag-hsdgjfo!!!! With extra spittle. Go home, Troll, it must almost be daylight where you are, and we do not want you to turn to stone. Like, in addition to being stoned.
[06:57:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cool - 06The Coming Terrorist Threat From Autonomous Vehicles - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:57:46] <exec> 08└─self driving cars will only be used by 4chan type of "terorrists"! The real fun is going to be in reprogramming military systems... bored hacker: "ship, fire at that city's financial district in a civilian casualty maximizing pattern" hijacked navy battleship: "YESS 'SAH! Firing all weapons, 'SAH!"...
[06:58:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Conspiracy #36 - 06Rare Walking Fish Population Down to Just 79 - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:58:02] <exec> 08└─Maybe creationists are killing them off because it violates their "kinds can't become other kinds" doctrine. Double incentive if the fish are gay.
[06:59:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03ticho [89] (Score:2) 02Re:Removing oil in plug wells on a hemi engine... - 06 In Celebration of Macgyvering: 90 Hacks to Welcome in a New Word - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:00] <exec> 08└─But now we're getting dangerously close to "No true MacGyver" fallacy...
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[07:58:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Alternatives? - 06High Protein Foods Boost Cardiovascular Health as Much as Quitting Smoking or Getting Exercise - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:58:01] <exec> 08└─Best advice for nutrition - only eat fresh food that you've prepared. That eliminates all processed food and over-eating on over-sized left-overs. It also means you put so much time into cooking each meal that you don't have much time left over to waste on eating a big meal.
[07:58:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Alternatives? - 06High Protein Foods Boost Cardiovascular Health as Much as Quitting Smoking or Getting Exercise - 626 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:58:02] <exec> 08└─Not bad advice. Add to it, use locally grown small farm produce. Cut out the big-agri businesses, who have little motivation to ensure that your food is natural and healthy. Among other things, free-range eggs have been demonstrated to be far healthier than chicken house eggs. They have more protien...
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[09:25:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Hellstew - 06Android 6.0 "Marshmallow": The Green Robot Finally Gets Granular Control over Permissions - 867 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:25:16] <exec> 08└─The state of Android security is abysmal. Most phones never get updated. They ship with a version of Android and that's what they have forever--which is usually a year or two when the consumer buys a new one because they're so bogged down with crap. That is, to me, criminally wasteful. Now you can g...
[09:25:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:high protein eh... - 06High Protein Foods Boost Cardiovascular Health as Much as Quitting Smoking or Getting Exercise - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:25:27] <exec> 08└─As far as I'm aware, that stuff's mostly sugars and not very densely packed with protein. I'm sure DuckDuckGo has the answer somewhere...
[09:25:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Alternatives? - 06High Protein Foods Boost Cardiovascular Health as Much as Quitting Smoking or Getting Exercise - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:25:30] <exec> 08└─Best advice for nutrition - only eat fresh food that you've prepared. That eliminates all processed food and over-eating on over-sized left-overs. It also means you put so much time into cooking each meal that you don't have much time left over to waste on eating a big meal.
[09:25:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Alternatives? - 06High Protein Foods Boost Cardiovascular Health as Much as Quitting Smoking or Getting Exercise - 626 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:25:32] <exec> 08└─Not bad advice. Add to it, use locally grown small farm produce. Cut out the big-agri businesses, who have little motivation to ensure that your food is natural and healthy. Among other things, free-range eggs have been demonstrated to be far healthier than chicken house eggs. They have more protien...
[09:25:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02oh please - 06The Coming Terrorist Threat From Autonomous Vehicles - 628 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:25:59] <exec> 08└─We are orders of magnitude more likely to die from a normal car accident than any 'terror' plot. The chance of one of these terrorists using an AV (I always thought that meant Audio/Visual) is so abysmally low as to barely rate a statistical blip. Stop the sensational fear-mongering, please. AVs are...
[09:26:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02Huge Problems Looming - 06The Coming Terrorist Threat From Autonomous Vehicles - 482 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:26:01] <exec> 08└─I predict ideological terrorism will take off big time if all these automated systems are left on the internet. For example, it would be possible in a very automated near future, to use hacked vehicles to shut down several of the key shipping lanes around the world at the same time and cause massive...
[09:26:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Conspiracy #36 - 06Rare Walking Fish Population Down to Just 79 - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:26:14] <exec> 08└─If the fish were gay, the creationists wouldn’t have to kill them, they would just have to wait a little.
[09:26:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Please link to the abstract page - 06New Theory: Electromagnetic Energy Without Radiation - 437 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:26:33] <exec> 08└─For arXiv papers, please link to the abstract page, not the PDF. From the abstract page, the PDF (and potentially some other formats) is just a click away. But from the PDF link, the only way to get to the abstract page is to edit the link. Besides, the abstract page contains information about new v...
[09:28:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03takyon [881] 02Re:Limits - 06Julian Assange Advised Edward Snowden to Avoid Latin America, Despite "Negative PR" - 1745 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:28:06] <exec> 08└─I think it has more to do with standard of living and the existence of a middle class. As long as the people are relatively well-off, they aren't desperate enough to fight against the government. That's the informal "deal" in China. You give up political freedoms but get relative economic prosperity...
[09:30:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:Freud Loves You Runaway! - 06Fed-up Moms Create Their own Clothing for Girls - 358 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:30:29] <exec> 08└─Yeah, they are the ones being sexist, by failing to force their kids to wear Disney princess outfits. Those kids don't seem particularly upset at being made to wear "boy's" clothes. Perhaps it's just you that feels comfortable with those gender stereotypes, while young girls actually dinosaurs and m...
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[10:25:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02ALL HAIL OBAMA - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:25:19] <exec> 08└─I a good little shit. I never speak out against the fucking authority. ALL GLORY TO THE OBAMA FOREVER AND ALWAYS
[10:25:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:ALL HAIL OBAMA - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:25:20] <exec> 08└─I never post the flame bait. I good little moronic comment poster.
[10:25:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03quadrox [315] (Score:4, Funny) 02Oh what's the big deal? - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:25:22] <exec> 08└─Come on really, as long as you never speak up for anything, you are not at risk. Just don't do something the people in power don't like and you'll be fine. Live your life on the income the company has decided is fair, go voting for one of the nice faces at elections every four years, and take care o...
[10:25:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oh what's the big deal? - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:25:24] <exec> 08└─You forgot drinking beer, cheering your local sports teams, throwing backyard barbecues, and engaging in promiscuous sex within your income bracket. Every American must do these things.
[10:25:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I hope the government likes sock puppetry. - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:25:25] <exec> 08└─Nobody wants to talk to me, you see, so I talk to myself instead. You there, Big Sister?
[10:25:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hellstew - 06Android 6.0 "Marshmallow": The Green Robot Finally Gets Granular Control over Permissions - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:25:35] <exec> 08└─"The last thing I need in my life is yet another Linux computer that needs constant babying and attention" What do you mean? Linux computers do not need babying and attention.
[10:25:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Hellstew - 06Android 6.0 "Marshmallow": The Green Robot Finally Gets Granular Control over Permissions - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:25:37] <exec> 08└─The funny thing is that to transform a linux system into a windows -like upgrade hell they had to work a lot. Had they been lazier we would have gotten something like maemo.
[10:25:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03axsdenied [384] (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:Hellstew - 06Android 6.0 "Marshmallow": The Green Robot Finally Gets Granular Control over Permissions - 1268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:25:38] <exec> 08└─Get real, everybody has bugs. Some take longer to fix... For example Apple took 3 years to fix the FinFisher trojan. I am not sure if even Micro$oft was that bad in the early days of Windows. And to correct you, google did release updates for its current nexus lineup (on 5th August the updates were...
[10:26:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:"depraved hatred" - 06The Coming Terrorist Threat From Autonomous Vehicles - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:26:14] <exec> 08└─You will find that the hared will be justified hared very very soon.
[10:26:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02And this is news? Where is MY link? - 06The Coming Terrorist Threat From Autonomous Vehicles - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:26:22] <exec> 08└─I have been pointing this out in public for over a year but it has been plainly apparent to me that whole time we've had hobby drones and self driving cars. In the late 1980s I saw a movie called I think Malcolm in which Malcolm knocks over a bank by remote control. His Radio Controlled car had a pi...
[10:27:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02What we need.. - 06 In Celebration of Macgyvering: 90 Hacks to Welcome in a New Word - 717 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:27:41] <exec> 08└─Is a useful way to "MacGyver" all these damned smartphones we have lying around in drawers! Hell I'm not a big smartphone guy and I have 3 or 4 of the things stuffed into drawers, most Android 2.x single cores, and I have looked around and haven't found any kind of "hack" that will make these things...
[10:28:18] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03fritsd [4586] 02Re:Microsoft employee making light of security? - 06This World of Ours - An Essay on Security - 1947 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:28:18] <exec> 08└─Yeah, the article was fun to read, but I can't tell if it makes a lot of sense. Is he trying to tell us: "ignore SELinux, give up on security, and just keep paying for Microsoft products"? The thing with computer programs is, that *one programmer or small team* can write software that can then be ve...
[10:28:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02The long arm of the USA - 06Julian Assange Advised Edward Snowden to Avoid Latin America, Despite "Negative PR" - 395 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:28:47] <exec> 08└─http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-11/accused-russian-hacker-on-tropical-holiday-nabbed-by-u-s-agents [bloomberg.com] https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] h...
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[11:25:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03FlyingSock [4339] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Oh what's the big deal? - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:25:28] <exec> 08└─Now that's depressing.
[11:25:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:I hope the government likes sock puppetry. - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:25:30] <exec> 08└─I'm always here, self. Now shut up I'm singing karaoke in your head and I hope it's annoying. Thank you for being a friend. Travel down the road and back again. Your heart is true, you're a pal and a confidant. And if you threw a party, invited everyone you knew. You would see the biggest gift would...
[11:25:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I hope the government likes sock puppetry. - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:25:32] <exec> 08└─oh god. Can't you sing something more recent?
[11:25:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I hope the government likes sock puppetry. - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:25:33] <exec> 08└─Sure I can! Whenever you need me I'm right there with you Whenever there's something you wanna redo The clock is ticking but not for me I'm living in a different reality Whenever, whatever, wherever I'm right there with you
[11:25:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I hope the government likes sock puppetry. - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:25:35] <exec> 08└─Did you just become Little Sister?
[11:25:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I hope the government likes sock puppetry. - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:25:37] <exec> 08└─Hahahaha! I'm a teenager again. Oh crap. I'm late for school. Arrrrgh. Growth spurt is making me hungry. What's for breakfast?
[11:25:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I hope the government likes sock puppetry. - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:25:39] <exec> 08└─Well let's see we have protein bars and Crystal Light.
[11:25:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 803 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:25:40] <exec> 08└─I'm against censorship - but I have zero sympathy for some shit who supports Daesh. Of course, he didn't just voice an opinion on world events. He was providing support to an enemy. "Amin created the Twitter account @AmreekiWitness in 2014, and used it to provide advice and encouragement to ISIS and...
[11:25:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 447 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:25:42] <exec> 08└─So you're a hypocrite who wants to belong to the crowd that's against censorship. But privately and publicly, you love censorship. You're perfectly happy to equate voicing an opinion with providing support to an enemy. Everyone knows talk is cheap and harmless in itself, but not to you, because you...
[11:25:43] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 531 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:25:44] <exec> 08└─Your ignorance is overwhelming. I stated, quite clearly, that censorship is bad. Then, I pointed out, just as clearly, that it wasn't just censorship. The dumbass was convicted of crimes far greater than merely posting his opinion that Daesh is great and wonderful, or that he believes the United Sta...
[11:25:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 673 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:25:46] <exec> 08└─I am against ISIS as well. But I'm definitely against putting minors in prison for posting their support for $whatever group. Where do you draw the line? I know people who donated for Julian Assange, for Chelsea Manning or for Edward Snowden. As far as I understand, these heroes of liberty are consi...
[11:25:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 841 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:25:47] <exec> 08└─"donated for Julian Assange, for Chelsea Manning or for Edward Snowden." Why, oh WHY, do so many of you lump BRADLEY Manning with Assange and Snowden? Actually, Assange and Snowden don't belong on the same classification, but at least they are akin to each other in some ways. That Manning bitch is a...
[11:25:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedBear [1734] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Material aid involved - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 1724 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:25:49] <exec> 08└─I would like to jump all over this as a slippery slope and violation of the 1st Amendment protections, but he was also providing material aid and comfort to a designated enemy of the state in the form of money and whatever he did to help a Virginia resident to travel to Syria to join ISIS. That sort...
[11:25:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:1, Offtopic) 02Re:Material aid involved - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 1608 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:25:51] <exec> 08└─Probably the most import aspect is his wealth. Ford and GM supported Hitler: http://www.washingtonpost.com [washingtonpost.com] Also IBM: http://www.huffingtonpost.com [huffingtonpost.com] Of course, the Company's ar...
[11:25:52] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03basicbasicbasic [411] 02Internet monitoring - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 79 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:25:53] <exec> 08└─will have his Internet use monitored by the government for the rest of his life
[11:25:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:3, Insightful) 02his crime - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 482 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:25:54] <exec> 08└─His crime was a hell of a lot more than just talking, it was quite literally treason. DAESH is an enemy of the USA and he was aiding them. that name of aiding the enemy is not "Constitutionally-protected Freedom of Speech," it's treason! How dumb do you have to be to conflate the issue of free speec...
[11:25:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:3, Insightful) 02It's a mix... - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 1146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:25:56] <exec> 08└─His activities were a mix. In addition to just generally saying supportive things on Twitter, he also provided actual physical help to at least one person trying to support or join ISIS (he took the guy to the airport), and he apparently provided very specific instructions to people on how to suppor...
[11:26:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03BasilBrush [3994] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Hellstew - 06Android 6.0 "Marshmallow": The Green Robot Finally Gets Granular Control over Permissions - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:26:01] <exec> 08└─Get real, everybody has bugs. Some take longer to fix... For example Apple took 3 years to fix the FinFisher trojan.
[11:26:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03NullPtr [3786] (Score:0, Troll) 02troll - 06Android 6.0 "Marshmallow": The Green Robot Finally Gets Granular Control over Permissions - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:26:02] <exec> 08└─Hardly anyone gets android updates? My z3 went from 4 to 5. Your same is true of all flagship phones released in the last year or so. Talking bollocks mate.
[11:26:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Alternatives? - 06High Protein Foods Boost Cardiovascular Health as Much as Quitting Smoking or Getting Exercise - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:26:17] <exec> 08└─Add to it, use locally grown small farm produce.
[11:26:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02(Groan) - 06High Protein Foods Boost Cardiovascular Health as Much as Quitting Smoking or Getting Exercise - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:26:18] <exec> 08└─Protein good, hydrocarbons bad. I wonder what negative effects they'll discover after another 40 years of excess protein diet, probably something related too kidney and adrenaline unbalances.
[11:26:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:So what's the difference again... - 06The Coming Terrorist Threat From Autonomous Vehicles - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:26:49] <exec> 08└─Range and destructive power.
[11:26:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Terrorists don't need autonomous vehicles - 06The Coming Terrorist Threat From Autonomous Vehicles - 576 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:26:53] <exec> 08└─Terrorists don't need autonomous vehicles, even if they don't want to get caught. Just find someone dumb enough to want to die, or dumb enough to believe your plan will get them out alive, and send them in with the bomb. Pay a homeless drug addict $50 to deliver a package. Attach a bomb to the car o...
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[12:25:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 0269 cars - 062015/09/01: Mystery Man's 69 Cars to be Auctioned in Orange County, CA - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:25:10] <exec> 08└─Sounds like any high schooler's cream. Oh shit, I'm not fixing that typo. Dream, cream, same thing.
[12:25:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Nice collection - 062015/09/01: Mystery Man's 69 Cars to be Auctioned in Orange County, CA - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:25:11] <exec> 08└─A lot of nice old iron right there. Plenty of restoration guys are going to love this one. Aside from a few mundane vehicles, I'm betting everything will sell. And it's going to sell cheap.
[12:25:24] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03quadrox [315] 02Oh what's the big deal? - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 349 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:25:24] <exec> 08└─Come on really, as long as you never speak up for anything, you are not at risk. Just don't do something the people in power don't like and you'll be fine. Live your life on the income the company has decided is fair, go voting for one of the nice faces at elections every four years, and take care o...
[12:25:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oh what's the big deal? - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:25:26] <exec> 08└─Those are optional.
[12:25:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03quadrox [315] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh what's the big deal? - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:25:29] <exec> 08└─I agree, but unfortunately it's also true. At least it seems so from where I am standing. No wonder I am feeling slightly down...
[12:25:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 447 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:25:38] <exec> 08└─So you're a hypocrite who wants to belong to the crowd that's against censorship. But privately and publicly, you love censorship. You're perfectly happy to equate voicing an opinion with providing support to an enemy. Everyone knows talk is cheap and harmless in itself, but not to you, because you...
[12:25:40] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03hemocyanin [186] 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 61 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:25:41] <exec> 08└─Somewhere in the all hoopla, I missed the declaration of war.
[12:25:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedBear [1734] (Score:2) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 531 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:25:42] <exec> 08└─Your ignorance is overwhelming. I stated, quite clearly, that censorship is bad. Then, I pointed out, just as clearly, that it wasn't just censorship. The dumbass was convicted of crimes far greater than merely posting his opinion that Daesh is great and wonderful, or that he believes the United Sta...
[12:25:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:25:44] <exec> 08└─You're a dumb dumb.
[12:25:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 673 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:25:46] <exec> 08└─I am against ISIS as well. But I'm definitely against putting minors in prison for posting their support for $whatever group. Where do you draw the line? I know people who donated for Julian Assange, for Chelsea Manning or for Edward Snowden. As far as I understand, these heroes of liberty are consi...
[12:25:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:25:48] <exec> 08└─Why, oh WHY, do so many of you lump BRADLEY Manning with Assange and Snowden?
[12:25:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:25:50] <exec> 08└─Not everyone is aware of the sex change. I actually forgot until you mentioned it.
[12:25:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 2646 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:25:51] <exec> 08└─So, your position is that anyone who opposes government is good, and anyone who supports government is bad. How very discriminating. Discerning. Enlightened. Informed. How very fucking god-like. Government is bad, so anyone who acts to harm government is a saint, or maybe even a god. Tell me - how w...
[12:25:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:25:53] <exec> 08└─Because, you know, war crimes and such. I know US soldiers who were ordered to violate geneva conventions by executing captured prisoners AFTER they surrendered. Why? Because, you know, they just come back with more guys and more guns. Plus, there aren't any military prisons in foreign lands.
[12:25:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 621 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:25:55] <exec> 08└─Citations needed. No prisons? Obviously, you've forgotten all about this particular scandal - a genuine, documented war crime. http://www.cnn.com [cnn.com] I haven't even read that particular article, but it should be enough to refresh you...
[12:25:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03RedBear [1734] 02Material aid involved - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 1724 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:25:57] <exec> 08└─I would like to jump all over this as a slippery slope and violation of the 1st Amendment protections, but he was also providing material aid and comfort to a designated enemy of the state in the form of money and whatever he did to help a Virginia resident to travel to Syria to join ISIS. That sort...
[12:25:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedBear [1734] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Material aid involved - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 883 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:25:58] <exec> 08└─It should also be pointed out that "monitoring" and "censorship" are two different things. Once he gets out of the pokey and is no longer on probation, this individual will no doubt be allowed to exercise his 1st Amendment rights to say whatever he wants to whomever he wants, as long as he doesn't a...
[12:25:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:his crime - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 1316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:26:00] <exec> 08└─These groups are part of a civil war in a foreign country. I think they suck, like the Taliban before, but mostly because they are religious retards hell bent on destroying what doesn't belong to them -- the heritage of human history: http://news.nationalgeographic.com
[12:26:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:his crime - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:26:02] <exec> 08└─His crime was a hell of a lot more than just talking...
[12:26:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bradley13 [3053] 02It's a mix... - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 1146 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:26:03] <exec> 08└─His activities were a mix. In addition to just generally saying supportive things on Twitter, he also provided actual physical help to at least one person trying to support or join ISIS (he took the guy to the airport), and he apparently provided very specific instructions to people on how to suppor...
[12:26:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Wrong - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:26:05] <exec> 08└─His crime was to assume that his Constitutionally-protected Freedom of Speech included posting pro-ISIS messages on Twitter and other social media.
[12:26:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03riT-k0MA [88] (Score:1) 02Re:troll - 06Android 6.0 "Marshmallow": The Green Robot Finally Gets Granular Control over Permissions - 412 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:26:15] <exec> 08└─Let's face it: the Z3's 5.01 update was abysmal. I just upgraded to 5.1.1 and it's even worse. I turn off my mobile data and wifi at night and wake up the next morning to find that something turned on the internet connection at 3am and phoned home. It's quite disconcerting to have your alarm go off...
[12:26:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:(Groan) - 06High Protein Foods Boost Cardiovascular Health as Much as Quitting Smoking or Getting Exercise - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:26:33] <exec> 08└─You mean carb(ohydrates) bad, eh. Hydrocarbon good! Make my cars go boom boom!
[12:29:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Limits - 06Julian Assange Advised Edward Snowden to Avoid Latin America, Despite "Negative PR" - 416 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:29:18] <exec> 08└─Reads like the "shit" Scandinavian countries do all the time, when we send fighters up to tell the Russian spy planes to go home. Except for colliding, of course, but considering that the fighter pilot was killed in the incident, that sounds like an accident. In fact, the need to continue doing so h...
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[13:24:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Hard to empathize - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 529 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:12] <exec> 08└─"I would Musk and try to save the world, but that just exposes me to the same type of assholes that made me sell minecraft again.— Markus Persson (@notch) August 29, 2015" Find a goal, kid. Wallowing in self pity? FFS - approach Musk, and ask him if you can partner with him. If you don't have any...
[13:24:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillAdams [1424] (Score:1) 02Re:Hard to empathize - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 575 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:24:13] <exec> 08└─Yeah, we need a foundation which takes the long-term view and looks at the problems of increasing automation and connectedness and social displacement and loss of family connections and uneven access to resources --- something other than the current model of using credit card debt as the new ``compa...
[13:24:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Sellers remorse - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:14] <exec> 08└─Saw that coming a mile away.
[13:24:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh what's the big deal? - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 706 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:24:40] <exec> 08└─Uhhh...this kid did a hell of a lot more than talk, he helped ISIS recruits set up trips to Syria, set up tutorials on how to use Bitcoin to send money to support ISIS, and actively recruited for ISIS. I'm sorry but since ISIS has declared one of their goals is the destruction of the USA one could a...
[13:24:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 1433 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:24:59] <exec> 08└─You seem to have severe issues with logic. I do not automatically sympathize with everyone opposing government views, nor vice-versa. Nor do I sympathize with Manning. You are the one emphasizing your emotions by deliberately neglecting her gender change and bitching about her motivations. For me, t...
[13:25:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:25:00] <exec> 08└─"I do not automatically sympathize with everyone opposing government views" Alright - to be fair, maybe you don't. Maybe I'm projecting a little. Most times, I don't look at the moderation, but sometimes, I do. Funny pattern on many public forums - badmouth Manning, and the moderation goes to hell....
[13:25:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:25:02] <exec> 08└─To be fair, in my initial post I did summarize them as "heroes of liberty", which also was beside the point and probably not fully informed on my side. I don't think I agree with your verdict on Manning, especially since you seem to try to make your point mainly by strong language and bringing up he...
[13:25:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02How? - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 799 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:13] <exec> 08└─I'm not really concerned about him or the sentence. I just wonder about that lifetime of extra surveillance. How will that work? "... who will have his Internet use monitored by the government for the rest of his life." How exactly will that work? I mean on a practical level. Will the Secret Service...
[13:25:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03axsdenied [384] (Score:1) 02Re:Hellstew - 06Android 6.0 "Marshmallow": The Green Robot Finally Gets Granular Control over Permissions - 338 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:25:26] <exec> 08└─Working for google? Wow, we are getting personal now. I know I should not feed the trolls but, for the record, I do not work for google. I have an android phone and an iPad. No interest to defend anybody but, while I agree with some of the stuff you said, some of it is just rubbish. Pretty stupid to...
[13:25:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Hellstew - 06Android 6.0 "Marshmallow": The Green Robot Finally Gets Granular Control over Permissions - 1113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:25:27] <exec> 08└─Hear Hear, I have no less than 3 sitting in drawers now that were abandoned by the carriers and the only updates to the OS they got was by me rooting them and putting on a third party ROM. That is why I have to give credit to BLU as that $100 quadcore I picked up (great phone BTW, good battery life,...
[13:25:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03rigrig [5129] (Score:2, Informative) 02Google isn't that powerless - 06Android 6.0 "Marshmallow": The Green Robot Finally Gets Granular Control over Permissions - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:31] <exec> 08└─Google can't force manufacturers to come to the party in terms of upgrades [any] more than it can force manufacturers to stop skinning their Android installs with their own custom user interfaces and software.
[13:26:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:who needs a bomb? - 06The Coming Terrorist Threat From Autonomous Vehicles - 431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:26:01] <exec> 08└─Frojack wrote :- "you need do is make it impossible for a driverless car to undertake any journey without a live human inside Oh dear, bang goes one of the much vaunted advantages of self driving cars - the ability to send it off to a parking lot or back home after dropping its rider off at school...
[13:26:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Terrorists don't need autonomous vehicles - 06The Coming Terrorist Threat From Autonomous Vehicles - 2097 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:26:22] <exec> 08└─Ah the difference between the "personal touch" and AV attacks is like the difference between one jackass human trying to break into your internet server by hand typing common passwords vs a million machine botnet in China hitting the login so hard its almost a DDOS. The problem isn't one homeless du...
[13:27:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score:2) 02Re:Removing oil in plug wells on a hemi engine... - 06 In Celebration of Macgyvering: 90 Hacks to Welcome in a New Word - 414 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:27:33] <exec> 08└─Also, I don't claim to speak to the situations that the OP found himself in when cleaning an engine block "Here, you're/I'm on your/my period, let me just slip this out and put in the spark well to soak up that oil" Remember a MacGyverism is when you use innovation and whatever happens to be at hand...
[13:28:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh God, get over yourself - 06Julian Assange Advised Edward Snowden to Avoid Latin America, Despite "Negative PR" - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:28:45] <exec> 08└─IF they wanted to try to try him in court, there's nothing he'll get convicted of.
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[14:24:20] <exec> 08└─Something he could also consider is volunteer work or teaching. Just dont tell anyone who you are. Just show up and help hand out cloths or food. It gets you out among people and gives you something to do and look forward to. Dont go Howard Hughes. Also dont worry about the people you used to work w...
[14:24:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03MadTinfoilHatter [4635] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Hard to empathize - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:24:21] <exec> 08└─Do SOMETHING useful!
[14:24:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hard to empathize - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:24:22] <exec> 08└─If you didn't live in a 70 million dollar house, then you didn't go through a similar crisis. Sorry but McCartney later remarked the song should have said "CAN buy me love" because he got incredible advantages throughout life by having money and fame.
[14:24:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Man needs to take up fishing - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:24:25] <exec> 08└─Bit of timeless wisdom from Chris Janson: Yeah, and I know what they say, Money can’t buy everything, Well, maybe so, But it could buy me a boat
[14:24:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02well... - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 448 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:24:27] <exec> 08└─I feel for him, I know loneliness & isolation firsthand (though not his material wealth). But he broke a big promise, in a big showy way, and squandered a lifetime of good will. I was thinking just the other day about how he let the world down by selling out the way he did (to be honest, I don't kno...
[14:24:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:well... - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 1308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:24:28] <exec> 08└─Back around 1999, when AOL was blazing hot, there was an article [washingtonpost.com] in the Washington Post about the 20-somethings who cashed in their stock options and retired as millionaires. The story was about a slacker millionaire who was bored and didn't know what to do with himself. Boo fuc...
[14:24:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Pray - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:24:30] <exec> 08└─Maybe the fucker will find jesus. Jesus can always use more money.
[14:24:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02he can give me his money - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:24:31] <exec> 08└─and then he can go back to work and be poor and happy again.
[14:24:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Purpose - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:24:33] <exec> 08└─To have purpose is everything.
[14:24:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02options - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 988 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:24:35] <exec> 08└─Go on a holiday in a different country and don't spend like a billionaire? In many countries they don't know who you are. Or they might not even care. Whatever it is, don't rush into a relationship just because you're afraid of being alone[1]- it's better to be alone and lonely than to be married/at...
[14:24:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I fear this as well - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 835 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:24:37] <exec> 08└─I often imagine like all people in the world what would happen if I won the lottery. Of course unlike the mass herd of sheep, I always arrive at a horrible spiral of self-destruction. I never play the lotto for this very reason. I fear not success... since you cannot really call it that. I fear a "p...
[14:24:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03https [5248] (Score:1) 02Re:Oh what's the big deal? - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:24:58] <exec> 08└─And just a few seasons back, the CIA was bragging about all the guns they were shipping to ISIS. The USA's foreign policy has been 100% consistent for at least a century - "When we do it, it's freedom fighting, when you do it, it's terrorism."
[14:24:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh what's the big deal? - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:24:59] <exec> 08└─Come on really, as long as you never speak up for anything, you are not at risk. Just don't do something the people in power don't like and you'll be fine. Live your life on the income the company has decided is fair, go voting for one of the nice faces at elections every four years, and take care o...
[14:25:07] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 803 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:25:08] <exec> 08└─I'm against censorship - but I have zero sympathy for some shit who supports Daesh. Of course, he didn't just voice an opinion on world events. He was providing support to an enemy. "Amin created the Twitter account @AmreekiWitness in 2014, and used it to provide advice and encouragement to ISIS and...
[14:25:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:25:12] <exec> 08└─According to the POTUS we have been at war with ISIS since Sept of 2014 [nbcnews.com] so there ya go.
[14:25:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:25:15] <exec> 08└─Then, I pointed out, just as clearly, that it wasn't just censorship
[14:25:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 1090 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:25:20] <exec> 08└─I'll get hate for saying this but fuck it, truth is truth and to steal a line from Austin Powers "Its a man baby!". Words have meaning folks, and I can declare I am 9 feet tall and purple but that won't change the fact that I'm 6 foot and white now will it? If they have a penis then common sense wou...
[14:25:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:25:26] <exec> 08└─you sympathize and empathize with Manning because he's a fucked up, gender confused homosexual.
[14:25:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:25:29] <exec> 08└─If that be true, then you are guilty of helping them to cover up war crimes. If you actually have knowledge of such things, I advise you to contact the nearest JAG office, and offer them whatever evidence you might possess.
[14:25:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 841 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:25:30] <exec> 08└─Military prisons for captured enemy (and law-breakers) are very common. Every little fob probably has one. It could just be a circle of concertina wire. You can call up your support and the detainee will be shuffled along until they reach a large facility. Biggest i saw as around 10,000 detainees. A...
[14:25:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Material aid involved - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 667 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:25:33] <exec> 08└─Sigh....how much longer is this bullshit gonna be sold to us as truth? The key words with Ford and IBM are German Subsidiaries which just FYI every single business and factory in German territory? Supported the NSDAP war effort whether they liked it or not because that is how fascism works the corps...
[14:25:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:his crime - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:25:39] <exec> 08└─You're not the first person to claim this, and all of you fail to specify HOW he was aiding them, other than by SPEECH. How nice that "aiding" is such a non-specific word, that can easily cover speech, and still allow you to say "but his crime was a lot more than speech, he was AIDING", without ever...
[14:25:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03AlphaSnail [5814] (Score:1) 02Re:It's a mix... - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 1127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:25:41] <exec> 08└─- I'd imagine part of the thinking of an 11 year sentence is he will have no means to continue communicating with any other ISIL supporters at least not with any useful information for what could be the duration of the fighting. In war people are shot and bombed to protect the military forces, he go...
[14:25:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03NullPtr [3786] (Score:1) 02Re:troll - 06Android 6.0 "Marshmallow": The Green Robot Finally Gets Granular Control over Permissions - 603 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:25:57] <exec> 08└─I won't face it, no. I don't turn off my data/wifi overnight though as I typically find a percent or so taken and I can live with that as the battery is so good (at least, i get a full day's usage no matter much I use the phone). But I have used similar settings in the past (triggered by smart conn...
[14:25:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Google isn't that powerless - 06Android 6.0 "Marshmallow": The Green Robot Finally Gets Granular Control over Permissions - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:25:59] <exec> 08└─Am I the only one that finds it ironic that everybody had a shitfit when MSFT tried to force things on the OEMs or leveraged the OS to get IE share, but nobody seems to have a problem when Google does it and in fact encourages Google to do so?
[14:26:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03axsdenied [384] (Score:1) 02Re:Google isn't that powerless - 06Android 6.0 "Marshmallow": The Green Robot Finally Gets Granular Control over Permissions - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:26:01] <exec> 08└─If Google wanted to, they could include a clause requiring manufacturers to provide updates for a certain period. (the alternative being no Playstore on any device you produce)
[14:27:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A radical new way confine? - 06New Theory: Electromagnetic Energy Without Radiation - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:27:13] <exec> 08└─You forgot 'accidentally.'
[14:27:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03eof [5559] (Score:2) 02No QED/quantum necessary - 06New Theory: Electromagnetic Energy Without Radiation - 637 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:27:18] <exec> 08└─Potential functions (the electric potential and the vector potential) are not at all unique to quantum mechanics or QED. Even basic undergraduate courses in E&M introduce the electric potential--it is what differences in potential measured by voltmeters refers to. Choice of gauge (gauge fixing) and...
[14:28:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jtmach [1481] (Score:1) 02Re:What we need.. - 06 In Celebration of Macgyvering: 90 Hacks to Welcome in a New Word - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:28:09] <exec> 08└─I used my old Nexus 1 with a webcam app to see what my dog was up to all day. Not really a hack, but it's not being used as a phone anymore just a much cheaper drop cam. Turns out the answer is sleep, bark at the mailman, back to sleep, not very exciting.
[14:29:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03takyon [881] 02Re:Oh God, get over yourself - 06Julian Assange Advised Edward Snowden to Avoid Latin America, Despite "Negative PR" - 499 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:29:14] <exec> 08└─Intelligence officials can become irrational murderers too, and there's certainly been calls from spies [businessinsider.com] and pundits to assassinate Snowden: And some spooks aren't hiding their anger anymore, as seen by several candid quotes from a new report by Benny Johnson of Buzzfeed [buzzfe...
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[15:24:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Cars a blight - 06Paris Will Ban Cars for One Day - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:13] <exec> 08└─Cars are a blight. Vast majority of city space is wasted on cars - roads and parking spots. I grew up in a place where a car going down the street was an "event" for us kids, only 1 or 2 a day. It was awesome! Today, in this car-centric culture in America, my neighbors never even walk across their o...
[15:24:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Hard to empathize - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:24:25] <exec> 08└─What we need are new social structures which provide the same sort of safety net as family once did.
[15:24:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03MadTinfoilHatter [4635] (Score:1) 02Re:Hard to empathize - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:24:29] <exec> 08└─If you didn't live in a 70 million dollar house, then you didn't go through a similar crisis.
[15:24:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hard to empathize - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:24:30] <exec> 08└─The problem is that we're mortal beings living on a planet that won't last forever in a universe that is dying of entrophy
[15:24:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Hard to empathize - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:24:32] <exec> 08└─Sophistry? Sounds more like nihilism to me. Not that there's a lot of difference. Maybe he should go to Tibet, and take up residence in one of their famous monasteries.
[15:24:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilPapa [2366] (Score:2) 02Re:Hard to empathize - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:24:34] <exec> 08└─You make that sound easy. The problem is that we're mortal beings living on a planet that won't last forever in a universe that is dying of entrophy. What exactly would be a useful course of action?
[15:24:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hard to empathize - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:24:35] <exec> 08└─That he is lonely shows that he is weak-minded. You should not need much interaction with others to be happy. And just because you have enough money to retire, that does not mean you must do nothing. I would suggest developing Free Software, but Minecraft's coding work was atrocious; what saved it w...
[15:24:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Hard to empathize - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 1205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:24:37] <exec> 08└─The people he really needs to be talking to, if he isn't: Bill Gates, Elon Musk, or Steve Wozniak. Seriously, put down the Twitter, man, and ring up people who found themselves in a situation very similar if not identical to yours. My suspicion is that if you called up and offered to help any of tho...
[15:24:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonTechie [2275] (Score:2) 02Re:Hard to empathize - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:24:39] <exec> 08└─Pick up a hobby, like Amateur Radio, Amateur Astronomy, both of which can keep him in touch with like minded geeks and can keep him occupied for hours. Reading is another great hobby to reduce boredom. Has he considered volunteering at a third world NGO and trying to make a real difference either in...
[15:24:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Hard to empathize - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:24:40] <exec> 08└─The guy is looking at things the wrong way. He's thinking, "what should a fairly young person with over $1 billion be doing with his life?" He should be thinking, what should I be doing with my life, BTW I have over $1 billion in assets which may or may not figure in the solution.
[15:24:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Man needs to take up fishing - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 715 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:24:42] <exec> 08└─I read that the first time as "meditation" which would probably be good advice. He can likely afford a few thousand lifetimes of zen retreats... The guy needs an education, also. Obviously he never got one. The original purpose of education was to give idle rich young adult noblemen some topics and...
[15:24:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Pray - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:24:45] <exec> 08└─Nah, Jesus doesn't need the money because Jesus Saves.
[15:24:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:options - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:24:49] <exec> 08└─<sup/sub> tags work if you'd prefer them for footnotes. They're just not in the list for reasons of sneakiness.
[15:24:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:options - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:24:50] <exec> 08└─it's better to be alone and lonely than to be married/attached and lonely/frustrated/trapped.
[15:24:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:I fear this as well - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:24:52] <exec> 08└─So only a fool dreams of winning the lottery, a smart man would know better.
[15:24:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:I fear this as well - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 618 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:24:54] <exec> 08└─It really doesn't take that much to deal with money well. You just have to not really give a shit about it. If I, for instance, became suddenly rich the following things would happen: My computer would be much nicerMy car would be much nicer. And it would be a truck.My fishing gear would all be new...
[15:24:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:I fear this as well - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:24:55] <exec> 08└─Hrm, looks like OLs, and probably ULs, could use some margin- or padding-bottom in the css.
[15:24:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:I fear this as well - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:24:57] <exec> 08└─Should have noticed that when I started working on it in the extension. I guess I thought it was specific to VT100.
[15:24:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Fear of failure - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 2169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:59] <exec> 08└─If I were in his shoes, I would take that massive pile of money, and use it to make more games. Form a small indie team, and take risks, make the games the publishers will *never* go for, because you've got enough money that you can tank quite a few complete failures. (Or so I say now, with five ord...
[15:25:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Not a One HIt Wonder - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:25:01] <exec> 08└─He has already a longish track of other games done, iirc.
[15:25:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Re: Not a One HIt Wonder - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:25:03] <exec> 08└─None that were hits, and TBH it's not exactly a long track. Scrolls was the only one to have any sort of success, and that was mostly by virtue of being the first follow-up to Minecraft after it got big. With that much free publicity, any game would be vaguely popular.
[15:25:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedBear [1734] (Score:2) 02Problem has a solution - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 1182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:04] <exec> 08└─There is a simple solution to this problem. Offhand I don't know of anyone in modern times who has had the moral fortitude to attempt the solution by choice. There is a story of a Buddhist and his daughter in ancient times who either achieved enlightenment or, seeking enlightenment, placed all their...
[15:25:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Problem has a solution - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:25:06] <exec> 08└─Any normal person can live very comfortably for their entire lives from just the interest payments from $10-30 million dollars or so.
[15:25:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03skullz [2532] (Score:2) 02Lack of distraction - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 957 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:07] <exec> 08└─I'm assuming Notch is experiencing a lack of distraction with his social interactions. You take away the daily grind, the worrying about health care, the stupid deliverables and you are pretty much surrounded by ass holes. Not saying we aren't all ass holes but without the distraction it is hard to...
[15:25:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marco2G [5749] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Again, the obvious: - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 1033 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:09] <exec> 08└─If your friends don't have time for you because of their jobs, pay their salary. I know, I know, you'll always wonder whether they're your true friends yadda, yadda... That's a billionaire's problem, live with it. However, when someone can't spend time with you because they need to work for income a...
[15:25:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Again, the obvious: - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:25:11] <exec> 08└─He could even start doing some twinking or "power levelling" for amusement: http://wowwiki.wikia.com [wikia.com] Perhaps he could put up a suitable test, and then twink the one who passes with the highest scores. I daresay lots of rich billionaires are doing similar stuff with their kids.
[15:25:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02"Take care of the employees" *wink* *wink* - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:13] <exec> 08└─When we sold the company, the biggest effort went into making sure the employees got taken care of, and they all hate me now
[15:25:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:"Take care of the employees" *wink* *wink* - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:25:14] <exec> 08└─Capital isn't scarce, vision is -- Sam Walton If you think a bog standard code monkey's time is worth as much as someone with the vision to create something millions will enjoy, you're severely deluded.
[15:25:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03blackhawk [5275] (Score:1) 02Do Something Useful - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 1000 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:16] <exec> 08└─Surrounding yourself with the sort of assholes who like to party with rich people is a sure path to a very hollow life. Just because you don't have to work now doesn't mean you shouldn't - people need work to feel a sense of self worth. It's ingrained into us at a very deep level. Take $100,000,000...
[15:25:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Cliché: Money and happiness - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 688 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:17] <exec> 08└─So it's true: money can't buy happiness. For most people, happiness comes from feeling needed. From feeling like you are some actual use to other people. Endless partying on Ibiza will just rot his liver and his brain, until he jumps off a bridge somewhere. Notch has just ended one phase of his life...
[15:25:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Do the same thing and expect similar results? - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 3936 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:19] <exec> 08└─Heaven forbid he make another game. Hell, he's got the money to do it up right this time... Now, if only some indie dev would come up with the right core mechanics to run with. In fact, after the failure of 0x10c (268, a play on 80286), he mentioned he needed to hang out with some small time indies...
[15:25:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03joshuajon [807] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh what's the big deal? - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:25:34] <exec> 08└─Perhaps you simply need to increase consumption. Consumption is happiness, citizen!
[15:25:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:25:50] <exec> 08└─More like a police action, Obama's too chicken to go all out on those assholes otherwise it would already be over. Trump will take care of it, just wait and see.... Big Botta BOOM!
[15:25:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:25:51] <exec> 08└─According to the POTUS we have been at war with ISIS since Sept of 2014 so there ya go.
[15:25:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:25:53] <exec> 08└─Please refer me to that part of the Constitution where the President is authorized to declare war. In the absence of such, this sounds like an Executive branch coup.
[15:25:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 77 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:25:59] <exec> 08└─Why, oh WHY, do so many of you lump BRADLEY Manning with Assange and Snowden?
[15:26:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:26:02] <exec> 08└─I'll get hate for saying this
[15:26:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 1347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:26:08] <exec> 08└─The men and women who worked with Manning have very explicity stated that Manning was a discipline problem, and that much of that problem centered on his "gender confusion". That "gender confused" term comes across frequently in every discussion about Manning. Gender confusion looks like mental illn...
[15:26:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03pe1rxq [844] (Score:2) 02Re:Material aid involved - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:26:17] <exec> 08└─Before the US declared war the german Ford plants were under full control of the Ford Motor Company and were using slave labor. And Henry Ford was a well known anti-semite.
[15:26:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Material aid involved - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 692 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:26:18] <exec> 08└─However, according to documents of the Reich Commissar for the Treatment of Enemy Property, the American parent company [GM] continued to have some say in the operations of Opel after September 1939. The documents show that the company issued a general power of attorney to an American manager, Pete...
[15:26:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Material aid involved - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:26:20] <exec> 08└─Secondly, while ISIS is a crummy shitty group, it can't hold a candle to Hitler.
[15:26:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03quacking duck [1395] (Score:2) 02About time! - 06Android 6.0 "Marshmallow": The Green Robot Finally Gets Granular Control over Permissions - 599 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:26:40] <exec> 08└─All the somewhat-credible but often-overblown criticism about iOS copying Android features, and yet Android took how many years to finally copy the far-more crucial granular app permissions model that iOS and Blackberry before it had? After how many additional *millions* of devices were released tha...
[15:26:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03halcyon1234 [1082] (Score:2) 02XPrivacy - 06Android 6.0 "Marshmallow": The Green Robot Finally Gets Granular Control over Permissions - 888 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:26:41] <exec> 08└─If you have a rooted phone, you can install XPrivacy. Fine grained control-- every permission on every app. It even does real-time and temporary permissions. Install an app. The first time it opens, you tap "DENY" a few times because that flashlight app really doesn't need your Phone ID, carrier, co...
[15:26:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheLink [332] (Score:2) 02Re:Compound effect - 06High Protein Foods Boost Cardiovascular Health as Much as Quitting Smoking or Getting Exercise - 940 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:26:51] <exec> 08└─Actually for some people the aging practically stops for some time: http://www.iflscience.com [iflscience.com] From what I see for some people if they screw up initially but improve their lifestyle before it's too late they actually a...
[15:27:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03skullz [2532] (Score:2) 02Bacon - 06High Protein Foods Boost Cardiovascular Health as Much as Quitting Smoking or Getting Exercise - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:27:02] <exec> 08└─According to a random web page on the internet, bacon actually has pretty decent numbers: http://www.dietaryfiberfood.com [dietaryfiberfood.com] There we go then. Science says bacon cures heart disease.
[15:27:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:if you have to worry - 06The Coming Terrorist Threat From Autonomous Vehicles - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:27:27] <exec> 08└─You The People have a government by The People for The People because you voted for it, didn't you?
[15:27:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A radical new way confine? - 06New Theory: Electromagnetic Energy Without Radiation - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:27:59] <exec> 08└─Their stuff cancelled out more than just radiation.
[15:28:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03eof [5559] (Score:2) 02Re:Discrete electron quantum states - 06New Theory: Electromagnetic Energy Without Radiation - 1128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:28:02] <exec> 08└─When the scientist says "Ever since the beginning of quantum mechanics people have been looking for a configuration which could explain the stability of atoms and why orbiting electrons do not radiate," I think they are putting things in context. According to classical electrodynamics, an atom would...
[15:31:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03OwMyBrain [5044] (Score:1) 02Re:Just copying code from the web isn't learning - 06The Raspberry Pi is Succeeding in Ways Its Makers Almost Imagined - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:31:18] <exec> 08└─In my computer science program I was require to take a sophomore level EE course that taught computer design starting with the transistor. Or are you upset that they didn't go over doping my own silicon?
[15:33:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03OwMyBrain [5044] (Score:1) 02Re:Good - 06Kettle Souring Makes Sour Beers on the Cheap - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:33:35] <exec> 08└─"I do understand the "bitterness" towards the IPA craft brewing trends as a stout drinker. It's a little annoying to go to a restaurant or a brewery that has 3-4 IPAs, and only a token porter or stout."
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[16:24:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Why not go one better? - 06Paris Will Ban Cars for One Day - 554 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:24:14] <exec> 08└─If you are going to ban cars for a day, why not take advantage of that and make a major event out of it? Turn the city centre into a Renaissance Fair type thing, have street performers and so on dress up in period costume (ideally for a pre-specified period in history to provide a theme) and encoura...
[16:24:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Why not go one better? - 06Paris Will Ban Cars for One Day - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:24:15] <exec> 08└─I will be shocked if there aren't pop-up street festivals in Paris, on a Sunday, on NO CAR DAY, with at least a month's notice (Sep 27th).
[16:24:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Why not go one better? - 06Paris Will Ban Cars for One Day - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:24:17] <exec> 08└─A major tourist event, for the people who are inside Paris. Nobody living outside will be dumb enough to try to get in, when all the people who HAVE to get in to work on a Sunday will be fighting to make it to work. You thought Parisians were rude before...
[16:24:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02I forsee an issue - 06Paris Will Ban Cars for One Day - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:24:19] <exec> 08└─This should make for all kinds of fun when none of the delivery vans are allowed to run in the city.
[16:24:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I forsee an issue - 06Paris Will Ban Cars for One Day - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:24:20] <exec> 08└─Sure … because there's no way the delivery vans could deliver one day earlier or one day later. </sarcasm>
[16:24:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:I forsee an issue - 06Paris Will Ban Cars for One Day - 695 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:24:22] <exec> 08└─They comically define "one day" as seven hours in the afternoon and "day" as a weekend day. Not exactly monday morning rush hour. Locally we have a nearby hippie car street to walkway conversion that is only alive because of student bars. They allow truck traffic after bar time till breakfast time o...
[16:24:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Hard to empathize - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:24:38] <exec> 08└─Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged. I liked how he handled the situation :) Douglas Adams wasn't just about the entertainment.
[16:24:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Sellers remorse - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 1141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:24:46] <exec> 08└─Yes, his sequel he had in mind didn't work out. and it appears that he no longer has a controlling interest (or interest in the control he has) in his signature product. Being aimless is a problem many have; but it is comforting to for a little person like me to know that wealth does not equal happi...
[16:24:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:2) 02Re:Man needs to take up fishing - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:24:49] <exec> 08└─I have never liked fishing. I have caught fish, got fish off of hooks and eaten them. Nothing that I like there. More grossed out than happy. In contrast I wouldn't mind trying to figure out the combination of or picking a lock.
[16:25:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I fear this as well - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 586 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:25:04] <exec> 08└─I would in this order: Buy a nice house, completely pay it off. Set up a trust fund that should easily pay the taxes and insurance on the house for the next 100 years or so. Buy myself a nice car/truck and a classic muscle car Take care of friends and family. Place the rest of my money into a trust...
[16:25:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:"Take care of the employees" *wink* *wink* - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 693 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:25:15] <exec> 08└─Notch didn't have any vision, that is why he made a clone of Infiniminer. If the entire scenario was played out just a hair differently, we would be talking about Zach Barth instead of Notch. At least Barth has made several commercially successful games. He is genuinely a great person that has said...
[16:25:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:"Take care of the employees" *wink* *wink* - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 521 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:25:16] <exec> 08└─I note you're dicking around here on SN instead of off sailing your yacht from all the money your ideas have made you... Oh, wait, they didn't and neither has the sweat of your brow. You know why? Lack of vision. Vision isn't just having an idea, it's also being able to discern whether the idea is w...
[16:25:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Take care of the employees" *wink* *wink* - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 369 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:25:18] <exec> 08└─Ideas are 10 a penny. Just ask anyone who's hung around a game-dev forum. The real value of any endeavour is in the people actually getting shit done. Besides which, in this particular case, the game's core idea was pretty much copied from Infiniminer. After that, it's just adding random shit and it...
[16:25:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cliché: Money and happiness - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:25:22] <exec> 08└─It may be true that money can't buy happiness, but it can buy something so close that you can't really tell the difference.
[16:26:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Material aid involved - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 513 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:26:31] <exec> 08└─My post was not meant as a comparison between the groups because they aren't comparable, not even by a longshot. That's Godwin territory. My point was that at a certain level of wealth and power, you can support whoever the fuck you want and rather than suffer consequences, profit. My point is that...
[16:26:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Material aid involved - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:26:32] <exec> 08└─damn, in a hurry: My point is that we don't live in a country where all citizens are governed by the rule of law, we live in a country where where the masses are ruled by law, by those few who are above the law.
[16:26:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Material aid involved - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:26:35] <exec> 08└─this individual will no doubt be allowed to exercise his 1st Amendment rights to say whatever he wants to whomever he wants, as long as he doesn't attempt to directly contact or materially support known terrorists again
[16:27:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02(Groan) - 06High Protein Foods Boost Cardiovascular Health as Much as Quitting Smoking or Getting Exercise - 191 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:14] <exec> 08└─Protein good, hydrocarbons bad. I wonder what negative effects they'll discover after another 40 years of excess protein diet, probably something related too kidney and adrenaline unbalances.
[16:27:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03cafebabe [894] (Score:2) 02Re:Johnny Cab? - 06The Coming Terrorist Threat From Autonomous Vehicles - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:27:36] <exec> 08└─If hired autonomous vehicles can be used for nefarious purposes then it may start a arms race of Turing tests. This will make hired autonomous vehicles almost impossible for use by drunks or disabled people while doing nothing to prevent real terrorists.
[16:27:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Movie-plot threat thinking - 06The Coming Terrorist Threat From Autonomous Vehicles - 1830 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:55] <exec> 08└─Bruce Schneier has been right on about the basic mistake a lot of people make when discussing terrorism. Basically, they target specific plans that they could imagine in their heads, while failing to understand that defending against specific plans is dumb because the terrorists can change their tar...
[16:29:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03cafebabe [894] (Score:2) 02Re:lol PDF? - 06This World of Ours - An Essay on Security - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:29:39] <exec> 08└─A Microsoftie publishes a PDF that says not to worry about security? That's a good troll because a Word document would have been too obvious.
[16:33:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03cafebabe [894] (Score:2) 02A Charitable Explanation - 06Many Published Psychology Results are Hogwash - 573 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:33:35] <exec> 08└─I'd be one of the first to say the psychologists are charlatans. However, I think I've come to an explanation of why this is the case. They're doing the statistical analysis completely wrong. If your objective is to perform black-box testing on an aggregate sample of people to determine typical beha...
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[17:24:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Root - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:24:12] <exec> 08└─Long story short: su is really a broken concept. It will given you kind of a shell, and it’s fine to use it for that, but it’s not a full login, and shouldn’t be mistaken for one.
[17:24:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score:1) 02Re:Root - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:24:13] <exec> 08└─If you want a full login, wouldn't you just log in as the other user you want to log in as?
[17:24:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Root - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:24:14] <exec> 08└─Or is this just another excuse to gut something because it has been around for a long time.
[17:24:15] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03srobert [4803] 02Systemd Just Doesn't Smell Right to Me - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 545 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:24:16] <exec> 08└─Advocates of systemd are quick to point out that ordinary users, like myself, aren't knowledgeable enough to participate in the discussion. There's actually some truth to that, but even I know what su is used for and what it does. As far as I can tell it's doing it well enough. For what reason does...
[17:24:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonymousCowardNoMore [5416] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Systemd Just Doesn't Smell Right to Me - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:24:18] <exec> 08└─Unity. Metro. Ribbon. I could go on but I think you get the point. If you still believe the developers who claim to know better than you what you need, I've no hope for you.
[17:24:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Systemd Just Doesn't Smell Right to Me - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:24:19] <exec> 08└─For what reason does it need to be folded into the init system?
[17:24:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Funny) 02Putting popcorn in the microwave here. - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:24:21] <exec> 08└─Any discussion of systemd should be entertaining. I might be informative as well, but it's guaranteed to be entertaining.
[17:24:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02bah, humbug... - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 1066 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:24:23] <exec> 08└─Poettering is being his usual disingenuous self... The basic issue is that su does its job just fine. But that job conflict with some infosec voodoo that systemd is trying to do with various pam modules and cgroups in an effort to track "sessions". In this effort they decided to zero out a certain x...
[17:24:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Why not go one better? - 06Paris Will Ban Cars for One Day - 453 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:24:33] <exec> 08└─Ban the cars, leave everything else as it is, and you'll be able to get much data on how much banning cars, by itself, improves things for people. London has just had the Notting Hill Carnival; no doubt cars would have been kept out of a wide area for it. But looking at that day won't tell you anyth...
[17:24:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:I forsee an issue - 06Paris Will Ban Cars for One Day - 750 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:24:37] <exec> 08└─From the article: "La Journeé sans Voiture will be Sunday, September 27 from 11:00 am to 6:00 pm, limiting cars from a substantial area that includes much of the city’s center, around landmarks like the Eiffel Tower, and two major parks." Does not mention commercial vehicles. Besides, if planned...
[17:24:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03soylentsandor [309] (Score:2) 02Re:I forsee an issue - 06Paris Will Ban Cars for One Day - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:24:39] <exec> 08└─Something must have gotten lost in translation. At metronews.fr [metronews.fr] they say: les zones qui seront fermées à la circulation. Meaning the zones will be forbidden for traffic. IMO, that would mean commercial traffic will not be permitted either. Other publications speak of la circulation...
[17:24:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03soylentsandor [309] (Score:2) 02Re:I forsee an issue - 06Paris Will Ban Cars for One Day - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:24:40] <exec> 08└─Never mind. Turns out user Xav found out [soylentnews.org] public transports, taxis, delivery vans and even residents' cars are allowed in the area.
[17:24:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Frenetic? - 06Paris Will Ban Cars for One Day - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:24:42] <exec> 08└─Frantic activity is against the spirit of the venture. Perhaps you meant ascetic.
[17:24:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Well now who is going to honk at garbage trucks - 06Paris Will Ban Cars for One Day - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:24:44] <exec> 08└─With this now who is going to honk at garbage trucks? My experience from living there seemed to be that this was the preferred French motoring past time in Paris. Garbage truck is out collecting trash everyone behind it just honks incessantly.
[17:24:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03xav [5579] (Score:2, Informative) 02Wrong - 06Paris Will Ban Cars for One Day - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:24:45] <exec> 08└─... none of the delivery vans are allowed to run in the city
[17:24:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03xav [5579] (Score:1) 02Re:Wrong - 06Paris Will Ban Cars for One Day - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:24:47] <exec> 08└─Sorry, I clicked on the wrong "reply" button. That was an answer to https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org]
[17:24:52] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Hard to empathize - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 529 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:24:53] <exec> 08└─"I would Musk and try to save the world, but that just exposes me to the same type of assholes that made me sell minecraft again.— Markus Persson (@notch) August 29, 2015" Find a goal, kid. Wallowing in self pity? FFS - approach Musk, and ask him if you can partner with him. If you don't have any...
[17:25:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Man needs to take up fishing - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:25:12] <exec> 08└─Fair enough, I'm aware there're certain personality disorders that cause otherwise sane folks to not like fishing. Doesn't make you bad people, just a little weird.
[17:25:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:well... - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 444 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:25:15] <exec> 08└─The object lesson here is also rule of capitalism #1, people should never have more money than brains. Don't worry, the invisible hand of the market corrects any things that tread upon this rule. Warren Buffet is a man who personifies this. He is exactly smart enough for the wealth that he has. Of c...
[17:25:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pray - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:25:19] <exec> 08└─Jesus is Jewish. "needs more money" and "saves" both apply.
[17:25:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I fear this as well - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 451 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:25:27] <exec> 08└─GP here, Fair point in deed. I was merely reflecting on fallibility of the human condition. You think you can handle shit till you can't. Likewise some may handle it much better than others, I only fear that that subset is much much smaller. A lot of people would parade their intellect out front, cl...
[17:25:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03OrugTor [5147] (Score:1) 02Boat? - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:25:31] <exec> 08└─Own a boat? Wow, you really don't give a shit about the money. I give you three years to burn through the lot.
[17:25:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Boat? - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:25:33] <exec> 08└─Pretty fair point but I'm only talking like a 12-16' john boat. Most any upkeep of that I can do myself for little to nothing.
[17:25:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I fear this as well - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 2433 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:25:35] <exec> 08└─That is a very rehearsed view of things. A lot of people go this route. If you have a plan for the money, you feel it would not get out of hands. But glancing at your list a few million could achieve that. Now imagine a few billion dollars. The level of problems associated with that wealth are signi...
[17:26:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] 02Re:Oh what's the big deal? - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 706 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:26:09] <exec> 08└─Uhhh...this kid did a hell of a lot more than talk, he helped ISIS recruits set up trips to Syria, set up tutorials on how to use Bitcoin to send money to support ISIS, and actively recruited for ISIS. I'm sorry but since ISIS has declared one of their goals is the destruction of the USA one could a...
[17:26:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Oh what's the big deal? - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 625 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:26:11] <exec> 08└─> Uhhh...this kid did a hell of a lot more than talk, he helped ISIS recruits set up trips to Syria, set up tutorials on how to use Bitcoin to send money to support ISIS, and actively recruited for ISIS. Only one of those things is more than talking and the reporting on the details of how he 'helped...
[17:26:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:26:28] <exec> 08└─Well, the War Powers act allows him to attack someone, and then send it to Congress for approval. And then if Congress doesn't actively say "no", it's considered fine and legal. It's a neat way to avoid needing to ever cast a vote for war again.
[17:27:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score:2) 02Re:troll - 06Android 6.0 "Marshmallow": The Green Robot Finally Gets Granular Control over Permissions - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:27:16] <exec> 08└─Your same is true of all flagship phones released in the last year or so.
[17:27:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03rigrig [5129] (Score:1) 02Re:Google isn't that powerless - 06Android 6.0 "Marshmallow": The Green Robot Finally Gets Granular Control over Permissions - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:27:20] <exec> 08└─It is not that simple.
[17:27:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02yeah, right... - 06Android 6.0 "Marshmallow": The Green Robot Finally Gets Granular Control over Permissions - 466 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:27:24] <exec> 08└─If it has used the old android permissions as a base, yes it would have been granular. But instead it uses the grouped permissions that was introduced to the play store a year ago or so. This means that you can't approve reading, but not writing something, as both are in the same category etc. Also,...
[17:27:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Compound effect - 06High Protein Foods Boost Cardiovascular Health as Much as Quitting Smoking or Getting Exercise - 1047 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:27:35] <exec> 08└─If you notice, Soylent (the power) has many BCAAs in it, although it isn't touted as the primary draw for health concerns. Soylent (at least, from what I've tried) is like fitness center work out powder with extra stuff to make it more of a meal than as a supplement. I used to take a lot of the supp...
[17:27:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Bacon - 06High Protein Foods Boost Cardiovascular Health as Much as Quitting Smoking or Getting Exercise - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:27:46] <exec> 08└─According to a random web page on the internet, bacon actually has pretty decent numbers: http://www.dietaryfiberfood.com [dietaryfiberfood.com] There we go then. Science says bacon cures heart disease.
[17:28:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Conspiracy #36 - 06Rare Walking Fish Population Down to Just 79 - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:28:35] <exec> 08└─You may be onto something here.
[17:29:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:The can of bacon and chicken grease? - 06 In Celebration of Macgyvering: 90 Hacks to Welcome in a New Word - 547 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:29:28] <exec> 08└─What kind of coffee do you drink, and how much? But yeah, I reuse my oil once or twice, too, when cooking. It does add flavor and reduces the amount of stuff I have to jar and dispose of. (and when cooking low fat meats, all the fat you can reuse is flavor you might not have been able to get with th...
[17:29:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonymousCowardNoMore [5416] (Score:2) 02Re:The can of bacon and chicken grease? - 06 In Celebration of Macgyvering: 90 Hacks to Welcome in a New Word - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:29:29] <exec> 08└─My experience with candles is they buy them for each other and you can't burn them because burning them destroys them and what if great auntie WTF came to visit from...
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[18:24:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02A wasted opportunity - 06Wes Craven Dead at 76 - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:24:13] <exec> 08└─It's a shame he's dead dead. Because if he jumped out of bed and killed the people in the room before dieing, it would be the most epic thing of all time. I hope this inspires somebody out there to go back to making proper scary movies. I'm getting rather tired of all the torture porn that passes fo...
[18:24:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A wasted opportunity - 06Wes Craven Dead at 76 - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:14] <exec> 08└─It's a shame he's dead dead. Because if he jumped out of bed and killed the people in the room before dieing, it would be the most epic thing of all time.
[18:24:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Re:A wasted opportunity - 06Wes Craven Dead at 76 - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:16] <exec> 08└─Yes, it's a shame he's dead dead and not undead dead. If it's any consolation I did read that he died horrifically in his sleep.
[18:24:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] 02Re:Root - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 91 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:26] <exec> 08└─Or is this just another excuse to gut something because it has been around for a long time.
[18:24:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03linuxrocks123 [2557] (Score:2) 02Re:Root - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:27] <exec> 08└─Long story short: su is really a broken concept. It will given you kind of a shell, and it’s fine to use it for that, but it’s not a full login, and shouldn’t be mistaken for one.
[18:24:29] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03AnonymousCowardNoMore [5416] 02Re:Systemd Just Doesn't Smell Right to Me - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 173 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:30] <exec> 08└─Unity. Metro. Ribbon. I could go on but I think you get the point. If you still believe the developers who claim to know better than you what you need, I've no hope for you.
[18:24:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:Systemd Just Doesn't Smell Right to Me - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 63 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:32] <exec> 08└─For what reason does it need to be folded into the init system?
[18:24:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Systemd Just Doesn't Smell Right to Me - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 394 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:34] <exec> 08└─OK, so it's not a matter of me not understanding Systemd, it's a matter of them making some horrendous choices and then foisting them on other people. I can understand that sudo and su are going to have some problems, I wouldn't even install sudo on my system and su itself isn't supposed to be used...
[18:24:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03morgauxo [2082] (Score:2) 02Re:Systemd Just Doesn't Smell Right to Me - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:35] <exec> 08└─It should never pass the smell test when someone tells you you are not knowledgeable enough to evaluate something that you use. If whatever problems he thinks he iis trying to solve were problems for you then you WOULD know.
[18:24:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Putting popcorn in the microwave here. - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:37] <exec> 08└─When do you plan on being informative? ;)
[18:24:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02bah, humbug... - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 1066 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:24:39] <exec> 08└─Poettering is being his usual disingenuous self... The basic issue is that su does its job just fine. But that job conflict with some infosec voodoo that systemd is trying to do with various pam modules and cgroups in an effort to track "sessions". In this effort they decided to zero out a certain x...
[18:24:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:bah, humbug... - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:41] <exec> 08└─in an effort to track "sessions".
[18:24:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:bah, humbug... - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:42] <exec> 08└─TFS, TFA, GP and you are finally causing me to come around to the anti-systemd point of view. Mostly, I'm still watching, and listening, but the fact is SU isn't broken. If systemd breaks SU, then it's a systemd problem, and it can't be blamed on SU. So, yeah, someone is full of fecal material.
[18:24:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:bah, humbug... - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:44] <exec> 08└─There shouldn't be pushback, there should be a fork. Period. Let him do what he wants in his own little world. But all people do is bitch about it, no one is writing code. Reap the rewards of your apathy.
[18:24:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:bah, humbug... - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:46] <exec> 08└─Nice rant, almost the same one verbatim I've seen copy-pasted from god-knows-where (usually Reddit in these cases?). Really well sourced (yeah...). Insightful. Informative. HAH.
[18:24:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03novak [4683] (Score:2) 02Just wow - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:24:48] <exec> 08└─Long story short: I don't really understand shells but I decided to call them broken and absorb more of linux userland into systemd rather than admit I had a trivial bug and just fix it. Systemd is a replacement for POSIX, but it’s not a good init system, and shouldn’t be mistaken for one.
[18:24:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03https [5248] (Score:2, Informative) 02Clarity - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 548 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:24:49] <exec> 08└─I always thought that the su command's purpose was 100% clear: substitute user. That is, I like my set of environment variables, for the most part, but I wish I was someone else. The linux manpage explicitly confirms it: "The current environment is passed to the new shell." That Poettering can claim...
[18:24:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02it's for containers! - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 1065 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:24:51] <exec> 08└─Systemd really sucks at communication:-( This is far from the big deal that is made out of it:-( Machinectl is used to manage containers and VMs. Machinectl she'll is used to get a shell into one of those containers. For that it needs to put the shell into the right namespaces, so that it sees the n...
[18:24:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:it's for containers! - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:53] <exec> 08└─Then it should be containerctl and not machinectl because neither myself or anyone else I know uses containers on our OS installs.
[18:24:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:it's for containers! - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:54] <exec> 08└─So why do you care what it is called? You won't need that command one way or another.
[18:24:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:it's for containers! - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:56] <exec> 08└─So why do you care what it is called? You won't need that command one way or another.
[18:24:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Valkor [4253] (Score:1) 02BSD - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:24:58] <exec> 08└─Damn I'm glad I switched my mission critical stuff to BSD. Every week that passes I feel better and better about this decision.
[18:24:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02devuan won't get rid of su! - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:00] <exec> 08└─So far they are still installing systemd, too. If they can't bother to remove that, I am entirely sure they will not bother to remove su either.
[18:25:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score:2) 02Not a full login? - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:01] <exec> 08└─Long story short: su is really a broken concept. It will given you kind of a shell, and it’s fine to use it for that, but it’s not a full login, and shouldn’t be mistaken for one.
[18:25:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02Get your own OS, Larry Potter! - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 729 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:03] <exec> 08└─Fine, whatever, but get your own OS if you don't like Linux and UNIX. I would be happy with Larry Potter OS or whatever that innovated all these ideas that he doesn't like in Linux currently. Let his OS compete with Linux like all the others do. I've been using UNIX and Linux probably longer than th...
[18:25:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Well now who is going to honk at garbage trucks - 06Paris Will Ban Cars for One Day - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:25:14] <exec> 08└─It's a shitty, tiring, but necessary job, so the locals are cheering the heroic guys who do it. ...No?
[18:25:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:Well now who is going to honk at garbage trucks - 06Paris Will Ban Cars for One Day - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:25:16] <exec> 08└─Here at the fringe of the EU, we wave at the garbage truck guy when he picks up our trash; to show him our appreciation for his important & smelly work. Surely, les parisiens toot their horns to show their appreciation of waste disposal work in a .. slightly more loud way :-) right?
[18:25:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ilPapa [2366] 02Re:Hard to empathize - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 198 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:25:37] <exec> 08└─You make that sound easy. The problem is that we're mortal beings living on a planet that won't last forever in a universe that is dying of entrophy. What exactly would be a useful course of action?
[18:25:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:2) 02Re:Hard to empathize - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:25:42] <exec> 08└─2,000 chicks at the same time?
[18:25:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:options - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:25:59] <exec> 08└─Aaaagh. Kill it with fire. How is it that people feel the need to put footnotes into one paragraph? God, it is annoying as shit. In almost every instance I've seen, their footnote would have been much easier on sentence flow if it was either stuck in parenthetically, or just stuck between two commas...
[18:26:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:I fear this as well - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 837 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:26:10] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I could see how it would cause some people issues. Just not me. I'd keep probably twenty-five to fifty million for myself1 then give the same to twenty to forty of my friends and family. Boom, there went a billion dollars. Anything left over, I'd probably dole out to my favorite fishing lake(s...
[18:26:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oh what's the big deal? - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:26:48] <exec> 08└─I advocate for secession.
[18:27:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 655 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:27:24] <exec> 08└─It is the speech we most disagree with that we must most vigorously defend, always, or else we do not believe in freedom of speech or, by extension, real freedom of thought. If freedom means anything, it means diversity; it means I recognize your right to choose differently from me, even though my c...
[18:27:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:Material aid involved - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:27:35] <exec> 08└─this individual will no doubt be allowed to exercise his 1st Amendment rights to say whatever he wants to whomever he wants, as long as he doesn't attempt to directly contact or materially support known terrorists again.
[18:27:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Hellstew - 06Android 6.0 "Marshmallow": The Green Robot Finally Gets Granular Control over Permissions - 402 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:27:48] <exec> 08└─Indeed, while there are updates popping up multiple times a day, sometimes, you don't have to install them immediately, there's nothing stopping you from waiting until the end of the week. I'm sure some of the updates are that important, but most of them are fine if you wait a few days or a week bef...
[18:27:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:troll - 06Android 6.0 "Marshmallow": The Green Robot Finally Gets Granular Control over Permissions - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:27:57] <exec> 08└─It depends where you live and what your carrier is. If I put the phone into airplane mode, it'll use about 2% of the battery charge over 8 hours. If I leave the airplane mode off, it's more like 30%. Some of that is the data transfer, but a lot of that is because AT&T sucks and no matter where you g...
[18:28:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03rigrig [5129] (Score:1) 02Re:Google isn't that powerless - 06Android 6.0 "Marshmallow": The Green Robot Finally Gets Granular Control over Permissions - 1709 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:28:01] <exec> 08└─While I'm not happy with the situation either, this is different: Google provides Android with no strings attached, (I'm currently running OmniROM, and they are under no obligation to e.g. include any specific browser.) Google also provides a nice software package, which only comes as a package deal...
[18:28:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02MPEG2 Hardware decoding - 06Android 6.0 "Marshmallow": The Green Robot Finally Gets Granular Control over Permissions - 785 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:28:08] <exec> 08└─I've seen reports that early builds of "the OS formerly known as Android M" can successfully use the MPEG-2 hardware decoding (when available on the platform), and works with Android TV. I don't know how successful they thought it was going to be without it, but I hope that functionality makes it in...
[18:28:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03andersjm [3931] (Score:1) 02Re:(Groan) - 06High Protein Foods Boost Cardiovascular Health as Much as Quitting Smoking or Getting Exercise - 512 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:28:27] <exec> 08└─Don't worry, you won't have to wait 40 years. You can get the bad news right now! Protein is great for growing muscle. Nothing wants to grow like malignant cancer cells. So eating a lot of protein is going to increase your cancer risk. The warnings right now are for red meat, that definitely increas...
[18:28:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Cool - 06The Coming Terrorist Threat From Autonomous Vehicles - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:28:52] <exec> 08└─Not enough mil ships, and usually they have people keeping an eye on them. On the other hand: Bored hacker: "half-million vulnerable autonomous cars, head to new home @ $destination" Where there might be either half a million random destinations, or just one, depending on who you're trying to piss o...
[18:29:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I really don't get the "radical" - 06New Theory: Electromagnetic Energy Without Radiation - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:29:43] <exec> 08└─Maybe that's partly why hydrogen tends to be a dimer and, as a monomer, it's unstable?
[18:30:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:What we need.. - 06 In Celebration of Macgyvering: 90 Hacks to Welcome in a New Word - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:30:32] <exec> 08└─Video doorbell. Pranks and Halloween triggers. Message sign at the back of the car for the tailgaters. Look-around-the-corner devices for shitty building layouts or airsoft competitions. Mail me a check when you make on of these into a billion-dollar business.
[18:31:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Reasonable - 06Julian Assange Advised Edward Snowden to Avoid Latin America, Despite "Negative PR" - 204 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:31:14] <exec> 08└─Both the advice, and the reasoning seem reasonable to me. There are few places in the world from which the US cannot extradite or "rendition" or "render" a person. Or, in worst cases, just drone your ass.
[18:34:07] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02Re:Great Stuff - 06Fed-up Moms Create Their own Clothing for Girls - 1902 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:34:07] <exec> 08└─First off, when I said "media" I used it in the general sense of something that conveys information. I meant it in the sense of the messages that girls are surrounded by, coming from whatever source. You took it in the narrowest sense of "MSNBC/CNN/Fox/Whatever," as in, a directed plot, something th...
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[19:24:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:A wasted opportunity - 06Wes Craven Dead at 76 - 509 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:17] <exec> 08└─> all the torture porn that passes for horror film these days. And the terminally-dumb-clueless-clumsy that passes for comedy And the Blow-shit-for-bad-reasons-look-boobs that passes for blockbusters And the meet-love-fight-regret-love that passes for chick flicks And the point-crosshairs-and-shoot,...
[19:24:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Funny) 02Re:Root - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:32] <exec> 08└─I thought his sticky poop was the main component of systemd.
[19:24:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Funny) 02Re:Systemd Just Doesn't Smell Right to Me - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:35] <exec> 08└─I bet you are a RIOT at an Obama rally.
[19:24:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Re:Systemd Just Doesn't Smell Right to Me - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:39] <exec> 08└─Last time I checked, Thorvalds doesn't have any strong (positive nor negative) feelings about systemd. Can you provide a link?
[19:24:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Systemd Just Doesn't Smell Right to Me - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:41] <exec> 08└─Linus' opinion [zdnet.com] I don't actually have any particularly strong opinions on systemd itself. I've had issues with some of the core developers that I think are much too cavalier about bugs and compatibility, and I think some of the design details are insane (I dislike the binary logs, for ex...
[19:24:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Putting popcorn in the microwave here. - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:46] <exec> 08└─I was wondering if anyone would call me on that typo. Should have been "It might be informative as well" There, I've been informative. I've informed the entire community that I type faster than I think sometimes.
[19:24:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03szopin [5710] (Score:1) 02Re:Putting popcorn in the microwave here. - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:47] <exec> 08└─Quite fitting in Poettering thread
[19:24:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:bah, humbug... - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:51] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, if you're a Linux user you're too late for the most part. A huge chunk of the distros now use systemd. I'm just hoping we get a little use of the bootless updates in the 4.x kernel before systemd fucks everything up and required reboots for patches. It's still beyond me how we got int...
[19:24:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:bah, humbug... - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:53] <exec> 08└─It's not just Larry Potter. It's his boss: RedHat. RedHat is behind this. Save your scorn for those tossers! (Well, and a little extra for Larry Potter too).
[19:24:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:bah, humbug... - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:55] <exec> 08└─There you have, this code is all you need. % apt-get install sysvinit-core sysvinit sysvinit-utils % apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove systemd
[19:24:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:bah, humbug... - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:56] <exec> 08└─# wget ftp://ftp.freebsd.org [freebsd.org] # dd if=./FreeBSD-10.2-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso of=/dev/cdrom bs=4096 # reboot
[19:24:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:2) 02There is a fork - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:58] <exec> 08└─There is a debian fork: devuan. It hasn't yet removed all traces of systemd from debian, it's moving ahead. It takes a lot to make a major change in something as big as debian. systemd is definitely no longer the init system. Devuan's second alpha release is running just fine on my laptop. -- hendri...
[19:24:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Funny) 02Re:Just wow - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:25:00] <exec> 08└─Still waiting on the systemd-emacsd to be created, then systemd might actually be useful.
[19:25:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just wow - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:25:01] <exec> 08└─one step closer for emacs being in the kernel...
[19:25:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score:2) 02Re:Just wow - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:25:03] <exec> 08└─I wonder how many systemd supporters are having second thoughts when they see stuff like this?
[19:25:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03mr_mischief [4884] (Score:2) 02Re:Just wow - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:25:05] <exec> 08└─I actually like the init system part of it. The unit files are nice and declarative, and don't depend on a particular flavor of shell. Everything else that is pulled in to get that, though, is worrisome.
[19:25:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:it's for containers! - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:25:08] <exec> 08└─Don't forget the sections on acting condescending, treating people like idiots, and attacking anything mainstream as essentially an arbiter of the apocalypse.
[19:25:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:it's for containers! - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:25:10] <exec> 08└─Mainstream is usually just that though.
[19:25:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:it's for containers! - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 976 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:25:12] <exec> 08└─> Oh, you're nearly there. I don't need anything relating to containers and all that code should be split out into a separate package. The technology to enable containers is a pretty core part of the kernel nowadays. The same technology that systemd uses to provide a read-only copy of /usr to daemon...
[19:25:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:BSD - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:25:14] <exec> 08└─Damn I'm glad I switched my mission critical stuff to BSD. Every week that passes I feel better and better about this decision.
[19:25:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:BSD - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:25:15] <exec> 08└─If you're not quitting and moving to a better job, you should be ashamed of yourself--you're part of the problem.
[19:25:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Not a full login? - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:25:17] <exec> 08└─When are they going to take them away from Mark. He's been breaking things for years with no particular recourse. Or, how about the folks running Fx. It seems like some of these projects come off the rails and nobody can be bothered to tell the people running them that they need to put on some freak...
[19:25:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Get your own OS, Larry Potter! - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:25:19] <exec> 08└─Why is this one man being allowed to change Linux so it isn't Linux? Why can no one stop him? Why is the Linux community letting this one guy change the OS so radically that it's not Linux any longer?
[19:25:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Get your own OS, Larry Potter! - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:25:21] <exec> 08└─The problem here is NOT that good people are doing nothing. The problem here is that good people are actively replacing the internals of the distributions they maintain with these new broken ones. If people outside the systemd maintainer community simply did nothing to enable this takeover, there'd...
[19:25:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Get your own OS, Larry Potter! - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:25:22] <exec> 08└─The problem isn't systemd. The problem is Canonical, Mint, Fedora, RedHat, OpenSuse, etc.
[19:25:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Get your own OS, Larry Potter! - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:25:24] <exec> 08└─Hosting providers are not providing non-SystemD OSes (many third-party software only works on selected OSes). So many people need to work with one of the SystemD ones. SystemD is being forced. People are being molested to use it. And we still don't know how they plan to use it to control the populat...
[19:25:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Get your own OS, Larry Potter! - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:25:26] <exec> 08└─Why is this one man being allowed to change Linux so it isn't Linux? Why can no one stop him? Why is the Linux community letting this one guy change the OS so radically that it's not Linux any longer?
[19:25:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Get your own OS, Larry Potter! - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:25:27] <exec> 08└─However, the positive side of SystemD is that the machine boots faster, something rarely done. So that is not a useful quality.
[19:25:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:Why not go one better? - 06Paris Will Ban Cars for One Day - 750 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:25:36] <exec> 08└─Absolutely, but there are almost always street performers, market carts, and so on in big cities. Closing streets like this is also something many cities do from time to time for carnivals, festivals, and so on, which makes what Paris is doing hardly a novel idea in that respect apart from the scale...
[19:25:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''make a major event out of it'' - 06Paris Will Ban Cars for One Day - 918 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:25:39] <exec> 08└─October 10 - Orange County, California [ocregister.com] "Re:Imagine Garden Grove by Day and by Night". [...] there is a planned one-mile stretch of streets dedicated to re-imaging Garden Grove without cars. “This year’s event will once again showcase the community as a lively, bicycle- and pede...
[19:26:03] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Hard to empathize - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 523 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:26:04] <exec> 08└─Something he could also consider is volunteer work or teaching. Just dont tell anyone who you are. Just show up and help hand out cloths or food. It gets you out among people and gives you something to do and look forward to. Dont go Howard Hughes. Also dont worry about the people you used to work w...
[19:26:04] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03MadTinfoilHatter [4635] 02Re:Hard to empathize - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 20 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:26:05] <exec> 08└─Do SOMETHING useful!
[19:26:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:Hard to empathize - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:26:17] <exec> 08└─does not sound pleasant being *cooped up* with that many chicks! oblig: ..."damn, it feels good to be a gansta!"
[19:26:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:Pray - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:26:30] <exec> 08└─"save pagan souls. win valuable prizes!"
[19:26:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:I fear this as well - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:26:47] <exec> 08└─reminds me of an old joke: "I have enough money to last me the rest of my life. just as long as I don't buy anything." (jackie mason, I think).
[19:27:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oh what's the big deal? - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:27:22] <exec> 08└─Every single one of those things sound like speech to me.
[19:27:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh what's the big deal? - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:27:25] <exec> 08└─The only punishment he faces is the imprisonment. Everybody in the US except members of the gov't, NSA and DHS are already under 24/7/365 internet monitoring.
[19:27:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:27:45] <exec> 08└─If all he does is speak, then all is well. If he took actions that directly harmed others, then that is different. What direct and harmful actions did he take? It looks like he merely spoke.
[19:27:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:27:46] <exec> 08└─He offered instructions for the purpose of manipulating bitcoin among other currencies, for the financial gain of Daesh. That is "aiding and abetting". If Mastercard began processing known Daesh account payments, then Mastercard would be guilty of the same thing. Offering intelligence that aids in b...
[19:27:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:27:48] <exec> 08└─He offered instructions
[19:28:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:Hellstew - 06Android 6.0 "Marshmallow": The Green Robot Finally Gets Granular Control over Permissions - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:28:22] <exec> 08└─As for TFA...anybody want to bet it'll be just like now, where every app asks for everything by default?
[19:29:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:who needs a bomb? - 06The Coming Terrorist Threat From Autonomous Vehicles - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:29:13] <exec> 08└─Oh dear, bang goes one of the much vaunted advantages of self driving cars
[19:31:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:What we need.. - 06 In Celebration of Macgyvering: 90 Hacks to Welcome in a New Word - 2146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:31:04] <exec> 08└─A friend of mine uses original and second generation iPads as home control/home theatre devices. They are installed in every room next to the entrance; and there are sometimes several in each room. They all get power via being plugged into various chargers that are intended to remain permanently plu...
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[20:24:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Alternative roms are good. - 06 Cyanogen Tapped For New Wave of Affordable Smartphones - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:12] <exec> 08└─Heres hoping it makes putting Omnirom on the devices easier. Much happier reducing the backdoors open to third parties, google, phone manaufactures and service prividers. I'm not convinced the commercialized version of cyanogen are on my side, which is a shame really but they appear to be doing well...
[20:24:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:Alternative roms are good. - 06 Cyanogen Tapped For New Wave of Affordable Smartphones - 1359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:24:13] <exec> 08└─there is no one I trust to make a phone anymore. google has their agenda and their o/s is crap; after so many years, its still crap and its update story is a joke. apple is what apple is; they don't care, they have hipsters and rich folks buying their gear and the walled garden never bothers those f...
[20:24:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Isn't Cyanogen now a MSFT proxy? - 06 Cyanogen Tapped For New Wave of Affordable Smartphones - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:15] <exec> 08└─There are those who, since early in the year, have noted that Redmond's capital infusion into Cyanogen and the subsequent hiring of MSFT personnel has made that organization a puppet of The Borg. [google.com] Examine the evidence and decide for yourself. -- gewg_
[20:24:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A wasted opportunity - 06Wes Craven Dead at 76 - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:24:25] <exec> 08└─Are you sure he didn't just dream about Robert Englund?
[20:24:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A wasted opportunity - 06Wes Craven Dead at 76 - 1818 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:24:27] <exec> 08└─> I hope this inspires somebody out there to go back to making proper scary movies. I'm getting rather tired of all the torture porn that passes for horror film these days. You haven't really looked, here's a very short list just off the top of my head It Follows http://www.imdb.com
[20:24:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03hemocyanin [186] 02Root - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 185 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:38] <exec> 08└─Long story short: su is really a broken concept. It will given you kind of a shell, and it’s fine to use it for that, but it’s not a full login, and shouldn’t be mistaken for one.
[20:24:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Bastille linux - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:24:40] <exec> 08└─Why don't we have the bastille linux hardening script anymore. Why is EVERYTHING good gone? It stopped working sometime in Wheezy, TCL error, can't track it down, doesn't apply any changes.
[20:24:42] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03linuxrocks123 [2557] 02Re:Root - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 185 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:24:43] <exec> 08└─Long story short: su is really a broken concept. It will given you kind of a shell, and it’s fine to use it for that, but it’s not a full login, and shouldn’t be mistaken for one.
[20:24:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Systemd Just Doesn't Smell Right to Me - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:24:53] <exec> 08└─Lets not forget that Linus was asked to put backdoors into the kernel: http://falkvinge.net [falkvinge.net] So he is obviously under pressure to go along with some things, and Thexalon's summary of his "opinion" seems oddly remi...
[20:24:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02If you like OS X, then NeXTBSD is for you. - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:24:54] <exec> 08└─Basically, what systemd has become (if it wasn't intended to be this already) is Linus Poettering's means of completely scrapping all things POSIX and replacing it with whatever he feels like to make it behave more like OS X.
[20:24:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Systemd Just Doesn't Smell Right to Me - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:24:56] <exec> 08└─Linus Torvalds "likes" systemd "sees no problem with it". He has been payed off.
[20:24:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Systemd Just Doesn't Smell Right to Me - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:24:58] <exec> 08└─Advocates of systemd are quick to point out that ordinary users, like myself, aren't knowledgeable enough to participate in the discussion.
[20:24:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Systemd Just Doesn't Smell Right to Me - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 3368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:24:59] <exec> 08└─Advocates don't really understand the issue at large themselves. I am sure most of them are in fact said ordinary users who don't fully understand the scope of what systemd does or it's consequences. The only thing they can muster in defense are mundane details like more intuitive syntax & configura...
[20:25:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Disagree) 02Re:Systemd Just Doesn't Smell Right to Me - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 648 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:25:01] <exec> 08└─The problem is that systemd offers solutions for problems software developers have. Nobody else bothers to listen, not to mention to implement any alternative solution more in line with whatever ideals may apply. Just take running X11 without being root. That has been a goal when I became active in...
[20:25:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Michelle [4097] (Score:1) 02Re:Systemd Just Doesn't Smell Right to Me - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:25:03] <exec> 08└─Advocates of systemd are quick to point out that ordinary users [...] aren't knowledgeable enough to participate in the discussion.
[20:25:04] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Tork [3914] 02Re:Putting popcorn in the microwave here. - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 41 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:25:05] <exec> 08└─When do you plan on being informative? ;)
[20:25:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:bah, humbug... - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 1749 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:25:10] <exec> 08└─I too lean towards the idea of malice, but I think that leaning is more a result of paranoia brought on by the secrets that have come to light over the last few decades. Now that we know how far some have gone to undermine our security and privacy with proprietary systems, it almost seems like a giv...
[20:25:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:bah, humbug... - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:25:12] <exec> 08└─Lennart and most of the other systemd developers are actually from Germany. I guess the west coast texh scene reaches further than I thought.
[20:25:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03novak [4683] (Score:2) 02Re:Just wow - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 1070 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:25:22] <exec> 08└─I'm concerned about this too. Linux 4.2 just came out and has no KDBUS. From what I hear, it's expected to merge in 4.3- though I hope it'll be longer than that. The big deal about kdbus is that udev (part of systemd for no reason at all) will become dependent on KDBUS and it will use the sdbus API...
[20:25:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:Just wow - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:25:24] <exec> 08└─I wonder how many systemd supporters are having second thoughts when they see stuff like this?
[20:25:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:it's for containers! - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 1655 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:25:33] <exec> 08└─So what is the issue here, really? Su is from decades before cgroups were invented, therefore a shell spawned by su will see the same cgroups "environment" as its invoker, whereas you'd want to su to a combination of { userid within a container , cgroup describing that container } instead of just su...
[20:26:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:Hard to empathize - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 695 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:26:20] <exec> 08└─I expect nihilism, ennui, and boredom will eventually be a big issue for all of humanity-- if we survive the huge challenges, many self-made, that we're currently facing. Right now, thanks to those challenges, it's pretty exciting to be alive. What are these challenges? Perhaps Greed is the root pro...
[20:26:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Re:Hard to empathize - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:26:22] <exec> 08└─The problem is that we're mortal beings living on a planet that won't last forever in a universe that is dying of entrophy.
[20:26:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:options - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:26:47] <exec> 08└─What can I say, I just like footnotes.
[20:27:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I fear this as well - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 787 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:27:01] <exec> 08└─If i won the lottery, i'd buy a nice house, take 6 months off work, go to usa, buy a a muscle car and drive around usa for that six months. Buying more muscle cars on the way and shipping them home. Then i'd go back to work, but i would know that i never need to worry about money or losing job again...
[20:27:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh what's the big deal? - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:27:35] <exec> 08└─I advocate for secession.
[20:27:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:27:50] <exec> 08└─Yep. As soon as he's done killing those dirty Mexicans.
[20:27:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:27:54] <exec> 08└─Let us not forget that Obama set the precedent for ignoring the WPA with Libya, which also smells like an Executive branch coup.
[20:28:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:28:02] <exec> 08└─Your personal judgement is obviously at odds with the court's judgement. Mine as well. Taking on the role of mentor amounts to a little more than speech. When that mentoring involves accumulating funds for the purpose of killing freinds and allies, it is most definitely more than mere speech. Consi...
[20:28:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:28:04] <exec> 08└─Taking on the role of mentor amounts to a little more than speech.
[20:28:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''this is different'' - 06Android 6.0 "Marshmallow": The Green Robot Finally Gets Granular Control over Permissions - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:28:46] <exec> 08└─True. The only real leverage that Google has (as the biggest dog in the alliance) is the ability to forbid the use of the little green robot logo and use of the Android name for those who won't follow the rules. To me it's like vendors who don't follow MSFT's requirements (Secure Boot^W^W Crippled B...
[20:28:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03albert [276] (Score:2) 02Will it lie for me? - 06Android 6.0 "Marshmallow": The Green Robot Finally Gets Granular Control over Permissions - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:28:53] <exec> 08└─If I deny a permission, an app may rudely refuse to run. That does me no good. Example: When I deny location data, the app should get something random, or maybe just Google headquarters. (configurable I suppose)
[20:29:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Movie-plot threat thinking - 06The Coming Terrorist Threat From Autonomous Vehicles - 1830 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:29:55] <exec> 08└─Bruce Schneier has been right on about the basic mistake a lot of people make when discussing terrorism. Basically, they target specific plans that they could imagine in their heads, while failing to understand that defending against specific plans is dumb because the terrorists can change their tar...
[20:30:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03l3ert [5673] (Score:1) 02Re:I really don't get the "radical" - 06New Theory: Electromagnetic Energy Without Radiation - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:30:29] <exec> 08└─Kinda like a vibrating string?
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[21:24:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Isn't Cyanogen now a MSFT proxy? - 06 Cyanogen Tapped For New Wave of Affordable Smartphones - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:24:25] <exec> 08└─But even if they are, so what? Isn't that the beauty of open source: if some corporation (eg. Sun) tries to acquire some great open source software (eg. OpenOffice) the open source fans of that project can just fork it (eg. LibreOffice)?
[21:24:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't Cyanogen now a MSFT proxy? - 06 Cyanogen Tapped For New Wave of Affordable Smartphones - 741 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:24:26] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure it makes it much different than the primary alternatives that are within reach of users and typical mainstream adoption. It just can't be as trusted as it used to be--much like the others that already are in use, like the original OS it was supposed to free users from. What are you tryi...
[21:24:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02late to the party - 06 Cyanogen Tapped For New Wave of Affordable Smartphones - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:28] <exec> 08└─Smartphone Sales to Peak in Western Markets in 2017 as They Enter New Phase of Maturity [ccsinsight.com] Peak Android? YoY Growth Lowest Ever In Q2, Says Gartner [techcrunch.com]
[21:24:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Three Chugs for Linux!!! - 06 Cyanogen Tapped For New Wave of Affordable Smartphones - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:30] <exec> 08└─Drink that penguin piss!!! Suck it down!!! Swallow it all!!!
[21:24:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03cafebabe [894] (Score:2) 02Missed Opportunity - 06Wes Craven Dead at 76 - 1802 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:24:43] <exec> 08└─From Relentless by Bill Hicks [gavinsblog.com]:- Hey, man. Killer idea. You guys like going to the movies? You... you do? Three of you do? I love the fucking movies. Love 'em. Now I'm watching 'Terminator 2', did ya'll see that movie? Well, I'm watching, and I'm thinking to myself, You know what? Th...
[21:25:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:If you like OS X, then NeXTBSD is for you. - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:25:09] <exec> 08└─He has no interest in merging those changes into any of the BSDs though. People who want it, would have to download a completely different disc and do a completely different install. And that doesn't replace what people already have.
[21:25:14] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] 02Re:Systemd Just Doesn't Smell Right to Me - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 3368 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:25:14] <exec> 08└─Advocates don't really understand the issue at large themselves. I am sure most of them are in fact said ordinary users who don't fully understand the scope of what systemd does or it's consequences. The only thing they can muster in defense are mundane details like more intuitive syntax & configura...
[21:25:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Systemd Just Doesn't Smell Right to Me - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 1430 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:25:17] <exec> 08└─http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/running-x11-as-root-4175505576/ [linuxquestions.org] The entire thread disagrees and offers pretty simple workarounds. Sometimes the fact that it is difficult to do something means the developers need to figure out how to make that happen. Sec...
[21:25:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Systemd Just Doesn't Smell Right to Me - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:25:18] <exec> 08└─thanks to a certain hero of the people
[21:25:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What about security? - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:25:34] <exec> 08└─Why won't devuan revive or package the bastille linux hardening script. It always worked, even in early Wheezy. Now it doesn't work anymore: the script never is able to apply or write it's changes, some TCL error. Please could you please add bastille. No, it is not easy to do all the things it does....
[21:25:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score:2) 02Re:Just wow - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:25:41] <exec> 08└─From what I hear, it's expected to merge in 4.3- though I hope it'll be longer than that.
[21:25:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03novak [4683] (Score:2) 02Re:Just wow - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:25:43] <exec> 08└─I saw a comment somewhere indicating that Greg was planning to fix it prior to resubmitting it for merging, with a lot of pompous feel-goody words in there about making sure everyone was happy with it but I haven't kept too close an eye on it myself. Now you've got my interest though, got a link to...
[21:25:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score:2) 02Re:Just wow - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:25:45] <exec> 08└─Here it is: https://forums.gentoo.org [gentoo.org] Seems to me that Greg has been spewing non-answers through the entire discussion. I would take anything from him with about 1000 tons of salt.
[21:26:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Hard to empathize - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 563 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:26:34] <exec> 08└─Seconded. This guy sounds like he needs to work on detachment from the material world and do some meditation on the nature of impermanence. Badly. Even better, since he seems to support Doctors without Borders, an alternative might be to do some volunteering for Engineers without Borders (donating o...
[21:26:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hard to empathize - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 412 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:26:36] <exec> 08└─This is foolishness... "do for others"... bah! What he needs to do is do for himself. He needs to leave egalitarian Sweden where people look at him with suspicion for being rich, and also not bother with the US where people only like him for his money and would otherwise consider him a 'fedora-weari...
[21:27:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:Nice collection - 062015/09/01: Mystery Man's 69 Cars to be Auctioned in Orange County, CA - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:27:26] <exec> 08└─Aside from a few mundane vehicles, I'm betting everything will sell.
[21:28:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03cafebabe [894] (Score:2) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:28:12] <exec> 08└─There was a War On Terror a while back. It think it was declared somewhere between the War On Drugs and the War On Empty Slogans.
[21:28:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 673 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:28:21] <exec> 08└─Let's try one more time. Providing intelligence to an enemy is treason. I can meet an agent from any nation on earth, and tell him, verbally, exactly where the Navy has it's ships deployed, including submarines, and I would expect to be executed if/when government found out about it. More so, if we...
[21:29:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Will it lie for me? - 06Android 6.0 "Marshmallow": The Green Robot Finally Gets Granular Control over Permissions - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:29:12] <exec> 08└─DELEATED!
[21:29:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03quacking duck [1395] (Score:2) 02Re:Will it lie for me? - 06Android 6.0 "Marshmallow": The Green Robot Finally Gets Granular Control over Permissions - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:29:13] <exec> 08└─Older apps that used all-or-nothing permissions could get away with not handling a no-location exception, but new ones built around granular permissions will have to handle it and a host of other no-data and no-access conditions. At the very least throw up a "you must enable this app's access to X t...
[21:30:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So what's the difference again... - 06The Coming Terrorist Threat From Autonomous Vehicles - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:30:11] <exec> 08└─How many people can afford one vs. the other.
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[22:24:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02fuck gamers - 06Cosplay and Schwag at PAX - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:24:12] <exec> 08└─Games became too commercial 20 years ago.
[22:24:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Really? - 06Cosplay and Schwag at PAX - 398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:24:13] <exec> 08└─Are we just posting whatever Buzzard submits now? I hate political correctness and otherkin tumblrista as much as the next dude but this guy is a little unhinged in both his hatred for, and broad categorization of society's ills as SJWs. SJWs are a specific class of keyboard activist, nothing more....
[22:24:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Really? - 06Cosplay and Schwag at PAX - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:24:14] <exec> 08└─Wait, where did I bring up SJWs in that article? Oh, right, I didn't.
[22:24:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03gawdonblue [412] (Score:1) 02The link doesn't work - 06Cosplay and Schwag at PAX - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:24:16] <exec> 08└─That link just has some fluff about making everyone feel comfortable and welcome. I'm not exactly sure what aggressive navels
[22:24:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Alternative roms are good. - 06 Cyanogen Tapped For New Wave of Affordable Smartphones - 3133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:24:26] <exec> 08└─I was going to add this in my reply to an earlier message, but decided it wasn't relevant. But... your comment is more in tune to what my intent was. I agree, that's too bad about the loss of choice with MS's involvement. Our best interests are not likely to reflect what they've decided our best int...
[22:24:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Isn't Cyanogen now a MSFT proxy? - 06 Cyanogen Tapped For New Wave of Affordable Smartphones - 408 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:24:30] <exec> 08└─> But even if they are, so what? Cyanogen's association with MS means they don't get the same benefit of the doubt that they got when they were independent. After Win10 revealed that MS's new business model is just Google but moar, we need to be cognizant of their motivations when judging their act...
[22:24:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Isn't Cyanogen now a MSFT proxy? - 06 Cyanogen Tapped For New Wave of Affordable Smartphones - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:24:32] <exec> 08└─The articles you linked are explicit in that they say they didn't even LOOK for MS Software in CM12 but it must be there... not realizing that CM is open source, I guess.
[22:25:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03present_arms [4392] (Score:2) 02Re:bah, humbug... - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:25:36] <exec> 08└─wget http://trinity.mypclinuxos.com [mypclinuxos.com] No systemd there either and never will be :P Then again neither has slackware, duvuan, pclinuxos proper... systemd, ya having a laugh, nothing is broken in su...
[22:25:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:There is a fork - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:25:39] <exec> 08└─My favourite DE is KDE ... isn't it tied to systemd as well?
[22:25:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03present_arms [4392] (Score:2) 02Re:There is a fork - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:25:41] <exec> 08└─kde isn't no, only Gnome 3 at the moment
[22:25:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03novak [4683] (Score:2) 02Re:Just wow - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 624 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:25:52] <exec> 08└─Thanks, that's some good reading. Looks like there is some hope that the whole kdbus design and implementation is so bad that Linus will block it, at least for quite a while until they actually solve some of the technical issues (which are apparently even more than I realized- it's a security nightm...
[22:26:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03iWantToKeepAnon [686] (Score:2) 02Snark - 06Paris Will Ban Cars for One Day - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:26:20] <exec> 08└─"Day Without Social Media."
[22:26:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Hard to empathize - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 695 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:26:35] <exec> 08└─Yes, not identifying who he is would be a great way to be able to get out there. He isn't a celebrity by looks alone, and should be able to fly out to a location for a week or more, rent modest settings, and work a soup kitchen. He can even anonymously leave money at some other soup kitchen that he...
[22:26:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Hard to empathize - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:26:44] <exec> 08└─Perhaps Greed is the root problem.
[22:27:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Man needs to take up fishing - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:27:00] <exec> 08└─You catch fish when you go out? I thought it was just a way to get to a nice, quiet place to drink beer.
[22:27:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:options - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:27:15] <exec> 08└─But I bet the sex was great if they're the ones doing the pursuing.
[22:28:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh what's the big deal? - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 406 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:28:00] <exec> 08└─If you want to argue that the CIA is a rogue out of control agency and needs to be put down like a rabid dog? I agree completely, but trying to use that as an excuse for what he did is a classic Tu quoque [wikipedia.org] logical fallacy, that because one person does something evil this somehow justi...
[22:28:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 539 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:28:41] <exec> 08└─You know what happens when you refuse to accept that words have meanings? You get people declaring newborns are racist and colleges trying to replace him and her with zym and zer [youtube.com] because hey, don't want to not support diversity now do we? If we lived in a sane world? I would agree with...
[22:29:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03albert [276] (Score:2) 02No, I don't want the app to handle it. - 06Android 6.0 "Marshmallow": The Green Robot Finally Gets Granular Control over Permissions - 516 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:29:29] <exec> 08└─To the maximum extent possible, an app should not know that a permission has been denied. If I want to deny network access, just make it fail with a common error that provides no hint that I'm denying. The app should think I'm in airplane mode, down in a subway, or out in the middle of the ocean. If...
[22:29:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:No, I don't want the app to handle it. - 06Android 6.0 "Marshmallow": The Green Robot Finally Gets Granular Control over Permissions - 382 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:29:30] <exec> 08└─I am under the impression you won't get what you want. Heck, upgrading to a new wifi nic on a laptop or desktop will cause some license validation schemes to fail. I was once told that only hackers change their mac addresses. Uh, right. That's why they are locally administrated addresses right? Next...
[22:29:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03BasilBrush [3994] (Score:2) 02Re:Will it lie for me? - 06Android 6.0 "Marshmallow": The Green Robot Finally Gets Granular Control over Permissions - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:29:32] <exec> 08└─The iOS approach is that the app should do the right thing, and keep on functioning as best as it can given the lack of a permission. The curated nature of the app store means that apps live up to this.
[22:30:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Why was grounding the planes stupid? - 06The Coming Terrorist Threat From Autonomous Vehicles - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:30:35] <exec> 08└─You had a very chaotic situation. You had three kamikaze planes striking around the same time, and you had another one go silent. It was clearly a coordinated attack and there was no obvious way to know if other planes had been taken over. This wasn't a case where one plane flew into a building and...
[22:32:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:What we need.. - 06 In Celebration of Macgyvering: 90 Hacks to Welcome in a New Word - 1240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:32:04] <exec> 08└─I kept my 4GB Sandisk precisely because of how bad phones suck at this task, with the Sandisk I have tactile feel to let me switch tunes and change volume which I have yet to find a smartphone that does this well. oh yeah and I get 27 HOURS on a single triple A battery that takes less than 2 minutes...
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[23:24:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Really? - 06Cosplay and Schwag at PAX - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:24:28] <exec> 08└─Can you explain what #GamerGate is about, for those who haven't heard of it?
[23:24:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2, Disagree) 02Re:Really? - 06Cosplay and Schwag at PAX - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:24:29] <exec> 08└─Exposing corruption and conflicts of interest in gaming and the journalism thereof.
[23:24:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Really? - 06Cosplay and Schwag at PAX - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:24:30] <exec> 08└─Disagree all you like, it won't change GG's repeatedly stated reason for existing. You don't get to define it to fit your narrative, sorry.
[23:24:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Re:Really? - 06Cosplay and Schwag at PAX - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:24:32] <exec> 08└─If that's all Gamergate is about, then what relevance does it have to convention rules regarding dress code for exhibitors?
[23:24:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03skullz [2532] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Really? - 06Cosplay and Schwag at PAX - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:24:34] <exec> 08└─Which stories did you submit? Asking for a friend.
[23:24:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03skullz [2532] (Score:2) 02Re:The link doesn't work - 06Cosplay and Schwag at PAX - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:24:35] <exec> 08└─The hashtag protest pictures have you covered. Trust in comic/game/nerds on the internet.
[23:24:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Dude! - 06Cosplay and Schwag at PAX - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:37] <exec> 08└─"This naked aggression will not stand, man!"
[23:24:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02PaX - 06Cosplay and Schwag at PAX - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:39] <exec> 08└─PaX cunts should be shot for their sexual harrasment policy. "We'll try to jail you if we can, male" If anyone gets caught up in this I pray they take revenge.
[23:24:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Can the submitter please RTFA next time? - 06Cosplay and Schwag at PAX - 1484 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:40] <exec> 08└─We have reached a new low. Commenters not reading the fucking article is expected. Editors not reading the fucking article is a sad inevitability. But we seem to have now reached the point where the submitter did not read the article. The rules about navels are part of the "no booth babes" section....
[23:24:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Can the submitter please RTFA next time? - 06Cosplay and Schwag at PAX - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:24:42] <exec> 08└─So what you are saying is that PAX organisers are not SWJ but old school puritans ?
[23:25:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03drgibbon [74] (Score:1) 02Re:Root - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:25:27] <exec> 08└─Yes and just "su -" for a root login shell.
[23:25:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:Systemd Just Doesn't Smell Right to Me - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 346 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:25:34] <exec> 08└─Linus' opinion [zdnet.com] I don't actually have any particularly strong opinions on systemd itself. I've had issues with some of the core developers that I think are much too cavalier about bugs and compatibility, and I think some of the design details are insane (I dislike the binary logs, for ex...
[23:25:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''a new OS being developed'' - 06Lennart Poettering Has Merged “su” Command Replacement into systemd - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:25:46] <exec> 08└─Ever notice that the logo|signage that Red Hat uses doesn't mention Linux at all? I'll be perfectly happy after they have let Lennart have his way and there is no more Linux left in Red Hat. In the meantime, there are still many ways we can have Linux as it was meant to be--sans Lennart. [without-sy...
[23:26:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03gnuman [5013] 02Cars a blight - 06Paris Will Ban Cars for One Day - 489 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:26:26] <exec> 08└─Cars are a blight. Vast majority of city space is wasted on cars - roads and parking spots. I grew up in a place where a car going down the street was an "event" for us kids, only 1 or 2 a day. It was awesome! Today, in this car-centric culture in America, my neighbors never even walk across their o...
[23:26:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathElk [4834] (Score:1) 02Re:Why not go one better? - 06Paris Will Ban Cars for One Day - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:26:31] <exec> 08└─Greater Paris has an excellent public transport network. No dramas getting into the city, even with hordes of other people. You thought Parisians were rude before...
[23:27:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:Hard to empathize - 06Billionaire Minecraft Creator "Notch" Reportedly Lonely - 1380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:27:20] <exec> 08└─"Wallowing in self pity? " You are being overly harsh. (its the internet so its expected though) He is having a existential crisis because there is a massive gap between how he thinks he should be now he "made it" and where he is. This happens to people of all walks of life. Sounds a lot like he has...
[23:28:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nice collection - 062015/09/01: Mystery Man's 69 Cars to be Auctioned in Orange County, CA - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:28:07] <exec> 08└─Almost all auto auctions have reserve prices on all vehicles.
[23:28:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oh what's the big deal? - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:28:34] <exec> 08└─and I advocate for secession.
[23:29:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:anti-censorship - 06US Teen Faces 11 Years in Jail and Lifetime Internet Monitoring - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:29:04] <exec> 08└─Providing intelligence to an enemy is treason.
[23:34:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:North Dakota = New Wild West - 06"Less-Than-Lethal" Weaponized Drones Coming to North Dakota - 460 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:34:28] <exec> 08└─North Dakota is not particularly productive. It's all strip farming because otherwise they'd have to let everything lie fallow every 3rd year to avoid completely depleting the soil. Flat also has little to do with productivity. Soil quality and growing season and fertilizer and technique do. Indone...
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