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[07:49:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Monetization Kills Innovation - 06Twitter Flunks Examination as University Endowments Dump Stock - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:49:57] <exec> 08└─Twitter is a great service that fills a specific niche. But it isn't an IPO level service. It is closer to a craiglist level service - just big enough to comfortably support about 50 employees. Trying to make it bigger than that will just lead to an implosion and eventual bankruptcy.
[07:49:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02user base growth follows population growth - 06Twitter Flunks Examination as University Endowments Dump Stock - 322 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:50:01] <exec> 08└─Everyone has joined Twitter already. The only way to grow the user base now is to increase the potential user base by having children. Too bad the population of greedy fools who join Twitter is experiencing negative birth rate because they do not care about posterity and are only interested in accum...
[07:50:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:user base growth follows population growth - 06Twitter Flunks Examination as University Endowments Dump Stock - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:03] <exec> 08└─No. They are trying to get more followers.
[07:50:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Brain rot - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:50:11] <exec> 08└─This sorta reseach makes you dumber for having read it.
[07:50:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Source - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 548 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:50:17] <exec> 08└─What may be surprising, however, is the research showing that people high in ambiguity intolerance feel so profoundly uncomfortable with the idea of uncertainty, they will often prefer a slightly negative yet certain outcome to a potentially-more-positive, uncertain one. In other words, people may f...
[07:50:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Re:Source - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 458 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:23] <exec> 08└─> I found out the author has a PhD. I see no point in reading such unscholarly stuff, especially from someone with that level of credentials Indeed, I am disgusted by people who are experienced with science that try to communicate their knowledge to a lay audience. If it isn't worthy of a peer revie...
[07:50:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Source - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:29] <exec> 08└─If I can manage it for AC posts to soylent (usually, I admit sometimes I am lazy), she can manage it for a Scientific American article. She apparently already knows about the research and is confident in those claims, it should take a few minutes to find the references on the internet. As a side eff...
[07:50:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Source - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:35] <exec> 08└─> If I can manage it for AC posts to soylent (usually, I admit sometimes I am lazy) Yes, usually you are lazy. 99.9% of your posts have zero citations. The two blog posts you are bitching about both have citations.
[07:50:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Source - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:42] <exec> 08└─I see now... I apologize for my rant. Thanks.
[07:50:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Source - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:48] <exec> 08└─people high in ambiguity intolerance feel so profoundly uncomfortable with the idea of uncertainty, they will often prefer a slightly negative yet certain outcome to a potentially-more-positive, uncertain one
[07:50:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02buzzword intolerance - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:50:55] <exec> 08└─I don't read shit that contains the phrases "plan of action" and "path forward" so fuck you.
[07:50:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"Political correctness"? - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 533 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:51:01] <exec> 08└─So when is anybody going to define what "political correctness" means? By how its used, its nothing but a meaningless scare-word like "socialist", "communist", "nazi", "SJW", etc. If we go by the definition on RationalWiki, PC is "attempts to minimize offense through the rebranding of certain words...
[07:51:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Political correctness"? - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:07] <exec> 08└─Going by that definition, what I find especially hilarious is that the people who bitch about "PC" the most do the exact same thing and worse than what they're bitching about.
[07:51:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Political correctness"? - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:13] <exec> 08└─> By how its used, its nothing but a meaningless scare-word like "socialist", "communist", "nazi", "SJW", etc. It is not meaningless if you recognize it as defining the speaker rather than the object of the speech. Standard usage of the term is as a way to gloss over issues that the speaker has no g...
[07:51:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03albert [276] (Score:3, Insightful) 02RationalWiki misses the point - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:19] <exec> 08└─attempts to minimize offense through the rebranding of certain words and terms to be neutral or inclusive
[07:51:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:RationalWiki misses the point - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:26] <exec> 08└─preemptively shutting down the opposition's speech. Example: you'll recognize what I'm referring to when I ask you to imagine a world in which telling children to look both ways before crossing a street is called victim blaming.
[07:51:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03albert [276] (Score:2) 02Re:RationalWiki misses the point - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:32] <exec> 08└─In case you really don't get the reference, I'll give you a hint. It's about advice given to women. Also, the letter 'R'.
[07:51:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:RationalWiki misses the point - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:38] <exec> 08└─That you are playing weirdly passive-aggressive games rather than stating your thesis further cements my belief that you are being intellectually dishonest. You've made it about asserting your intellectual superiority rather than make a convincing argument.
[07:51:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:RationalWiki misses the point - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 501 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:44] <exec> 08└─But I have seen that exact sort of logic used to try to make Sony blameless for their terrible security practices when their security was broken. "Don't tell Sony to not use demonstrably awful security; tell criminal hackers not to do bad things!" Not sure if that's political correctness or what, bu...
[07:51:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score:4, Insightful) 02not really about being PC - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 1247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:51:50] <exec> 08└─This article isn't really about people not liking political correctness. It's about why some people root for Trump when everyone knows he's an intolerable ass. The reason they like him right now is that he's being an intolerable ass to the whole of the political establishment, a pretty much universa...
[07:51:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:not really about being PC - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:51:56] <exec> 08└─PC is a rather vague term that includes a lot of stuff, and the meaning tends to change over time as society changes. For example, once it was PC to put more than two options for gender on a form, now it is mostly accepted that it's just necessary and the right thing to do. There will always be a de...
[07:51:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02PC is an ambiguity magnet - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 883 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:52:03] <exec> 08└─For example, consider "microaggressions" which are by definition unintended discrimination, almost always because the person microaggressing is unaware of the discrimination (which to be honest is a subjective determination). You can't get more ambiguous than ambiguity that you are unaware of, and w...
[07:52:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:PC is an ambiguity magnet - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 393 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:52:09] <exec> 08└─For example, consider "microaggressions" which are by definition unintended discrimination, almost always because the person microaggressing is unaware of the discrimination (which to be honest is a subjective determination). You can't get more ambiguous than ambiguity that you are unaware of, and w...
[07:52:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Political Correctness... - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 580 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:52:15] <exec> 08└─...is no different than self censure. When a woman is being a cunt, it's not politically correct to call her a cunt, but you do it anyway! When a man is being a dick, it's politically correct to call him a dick, but who fucking cares? He's a dick! When a nigger's being a nigger, it's not politically...
[07:52:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedBear [1734] (Score:2) 02Authoritarians - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 2688 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:52:21] <exec> 08└─This seems like a good place to drop a link to Bob Altemeyer's The Authoritarians. http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca [umanitoba.ca] What I loved about this book was that the author was very clear about what his statistical studies showed, and what they DID NOT show. Basically half the book is hi...
[07:52:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Authoritarians - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:52:27] <exec> 08└─I don't know anything about the author and I'm minutes away from sleep, but i read your post, followed the link, and thought I would add that the book is available as a free pdf download there
[07:52:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Authoritarians - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:52:33] <exec> 08└─Interesting that the climate change sides have this exactly reversed. Does Altemeyer deal with that issue at all?
[07:52:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Not bad, but the problems of old still exist - 06Google Unveils Project Sunroof - 713 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:52:40] <exec> 08└─I was just searching for a tool that gave me this the other day. I found several that brought up google maps and let me trace around the edges of the roof, then give it the roof pitch and various other specifics that I don't have off-hand, all to get very similar numbers. Looking at everything, what...
[07:52:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not bad, but the problems of old still exist - 06Google Unveils Project Sunroof - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:52:46] <exec> 08└─i think "net-metering" is the law in amerika. god given right to consume AND produce electricity and access to market to sell it? thats 9ne of the really cool things in ameriak. also look at so called micro inverters. buy one ... add as you go.
[07:52:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not bad, but the problems of old still exist - 06Google Unveils Project Sunroof - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:52:53] <exec> 08└─> than there was 10 or 20 years ago, but there is now the trade off that many utilities won't let you connect or won't do net-metering. What are you smoking? 10-20 years ago net-metering didn't even exist for 99% of the market. Today, at least 43 states have net-metering. [seia.org] And the number o...
[07:52:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Some call me Tim [5819] (Score:1) 02Local utility rates? - 06Google Unveils Project Sunroof - 428 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:52:59] <exec> 08└─Since this doesn't appear to calculate your savings based on local rates, what's the point of using it? I live in Central California and can tell you that there is a huge difference in rates from one county to the next depending on who your provider is. My provider is my city, they buy from multiple...
[07:53:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:4, Insightful) 02I foresee... - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:53:06] <exec> 08└─I predict a good time ahead for divorce lawyers.
[07:53:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I foresee... - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:53:12] <exec> 08└─Maybe they were behind it. Then again ...
[07:53:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:I foresee... - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:53:18] <exec> 08└─Nah... dumping everything at once is stupid for the divorce lawyering business - creates a huge boom (and the bust that follows won't be an artsie one [wikipedia.org])
[07:53:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Insightful) 02Suppose for the sake of argument - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:53:24] <exec> 08└─That some of the hackers had a personal grudge against someone, and couldn't resist slipping their rival's name and personal info into this trove of cheater stuff. Game over for that dude, especially once confirmation starts rolling in for some of the legitimate names.
[07:53:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Re:Suppose for the sake of argument - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:53:30] <exec> 08└─Sorry, but that is just too much effort. It's been already published in media that haxers said "shut down site or we'll release info and proof that you are not deleting profiles that people pay extra to get deleted". Whoever did this, has an apparent motive against the site and/or people behind it.
[07:53:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Shitting in their pants - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:53:36] <exec> 08└─The Blackmail sketch [youtube.com] from Monty Python's Flying Circus, a photo from which showing Terry Jones in his birthday suit at the organ in El Reg's article, is very apropos here: Send us £15 to stop us from revealing to your husband and lovely children the name the name of your lover in Bolt...
[07:53:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Shitting in their pants - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:53:42] <exec> 08└─Send us £15 to stop us from revealing to your husband and lovely children the name the name of your lover in Bolton.
[07:53:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Using A.M. - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:53:49] <exec> 08└─Is stupid, might as well post your Want-A-Ho ads on Facebook.
[07:53:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Using A.M. - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:53:56] <exec> 08└─I'm sure it worked out pre brickshitting.
[07:53:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:54:02] <exec> 08└─Since marriage is a legal contract, instead of being forever, we should set term limits on them. Say, ten years, with options to renew every five years. Love isn't forever, even if the offspring are. And they're often more damaged by divorce than the parents are.
[07:54:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:54:08] <exec> 08└─So you want to get more people thinking about divorce more often so they divorce before practicing infidelity. What's the point? The status quo works although the domestic violence is a turn off. Maybe 5 years is too long for a term. 2 years?
[07:54:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:54:14] <exec> 08└─Maybe 5 years is too long for a term. 2 years?
[07:54:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2, Flamebait) 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:54:20] <exec> 08└─The divorce is a gravy train for women. There is a reason why men take the risk of infidelity.
[07:54:23] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 805 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:54:25] <exec> 08└─Exactly. And when I point out the most personally relevant real-life example where a pre-nup would have helped, that of my parents, women still tell me that I'm "just planning on divorce". Courts take infidelity as some great moral offense, but partner alienation, disparagement, lack of sex, or simp...
[07:54:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:54:30] <exec> 08└─If a man loses his job, he's failing to provide for the family, if the woman loses hers, it is viewed as a secondary income, even if she makes more. Other than paternity rights and some tax benefits, there's very little upside to marriage for men.
[07:54:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 690 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:54:36] <exec> 08└─Oh lay it off. Feminism doesn't fight for equality and has never fought for equality, from its inception in the minds of aristocratic bored house-wives of eighteen hundreds to this day. This lie comes from exactly two types of people: 1. Men who are too blind to see their own disadvantage or 2. Wome...
[07:54:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Funny) 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:54:42] <exec> 08└─> And when I point out the most personally relevant real-life example where a pre-nup would have helped, that of my parents, And the award for today's most unintentionally revealing post goes to the gugginator. That explains sooo much of the world view expressed in your posting history.
[07:54:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:54:45] <exec> 08└─The divorce is a gravy train for women. There is a reason why men take the risk of infidelity.
[07:54:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:1, Troll) 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:54:47] <exec> 08└─Because they don't see why they should live a compromised life of not getting what they want, not doing what they want but instead spend time working and earning in a cut-throat world and give that money to another human being who is just as capable (and cannot legally be called otherwise) but whose...
[07:54:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:54:50] <exec> 08└─but whose only talent is to pretend to be miserable.
[07:54:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:54:52] <exec> 08└─Oh kay.
[07:54:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:54:56] <exec> 08└─Or just realize how stupid marrying purely because you're in love is. If you can't be arsed to do the other things involved with having a helpful marriage, then it's not going to work out well.
[07:54:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] (Score:2, Disagree) 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:55:02] <exec> 08└─Marriage is not a legal contract.
[07:55:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:55:09] <exec> 08└─Care to make an affirmative statement* on what exactly you think marriage is? * the opposite of stating what is not
[07:55:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] (Score:2) 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 844 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:55:15] <exec> 08└─If someone said "gravity is when things move towards the ground" and I said "no, it is not", would you respond with a full request for scientific definitions of gravity, with a full explanation of general relativity? Or do you think marriage is less complex than gravity? So no, I wouldn't care to pr...
[07:55:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03szopin [5710] (Score:1) 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 592 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:55:17] <exec> 08└─Funny you mention that, from https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] 'in some legal systems a marriage may be annulled if it has not been consummated. Consummation is also very relevant in the case of a common law marriage.' What you seem to be arguing is that people choose to liv...
[07:55:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:55:18] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage [wikipedia.org] Marriage, also called matrimony or wedlock, is a socially or ritually recognized union or legal contract between spouses that establishes rights and obligations between them, between them and their children, and between them and their in-laws
[07:55:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] (Score:2) 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 683 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:55:20] <exec> 08└─If some authoritarians got all kinds of laws passed saying "You are allowed to have sex on Thursdays and Fridays, but no other day. And you get a tax break for having no sex for a week. And you are only allowed to have sex in certain ways." That doesn't make sex a legal institution, it just makes ev...
[07:55:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:55:22] <exec> 08└─When have there not been legal codes around marriage? Sometime pre-Old Testament, I guess?
[07:55:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:55:24] <exec> 08└─Marriage is not a legal contract.
[07:55:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] (Score:2) 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:55:26] <exec> 08└─If everyone in the government died, and a disease spawned which killed anyone who asserted governing authority 200 milliseconds after making the claim; even then people would still get married. Governments are not necessary for marriage. The fuck its not. Its a legal contract by definition.
[07:55:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:55:28] <exec> 08└─Or just get a divorce, or separate. Nobody in the western world makes you live with someobody forever just because you signed a marriage application when you were 20.
[07:55:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The other side of the story - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 768 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:55:34] <exec> 08└─Yes, this is bad. But it may not be the trivial, criminal grab for money or settling of a personal grudge that most sites seem to be reporting it as. According to German news site "Spiegel online", the hackers said their motivation was that Ashley Madison has 90-95% of male profiles, while most fema...
[07:55:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The other side of the story - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:55:41] <exec> 08└─You could download the data yourself and check.
[07:55:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02Re:The other side of the story - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:55:47] <exec> 08└─You could download the data yourself and check.
[07:55:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Cry me a river - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:55:51] <exec> 08└─A website for cheaters cheats its users. Oh, and information wants to be free. Please be more careful with your dirty secrets.
[07:55:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Try explaining - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:55:53] <exec> 08└─that class-action notification letter to your spouse.
[07:55:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03pkrasimirov [3358] (Score:2) 02Data - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 632 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:55:55] <exec> 08└─> Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB [...] Files ...and all I'm doing is sitting here and trying to imagine what exactly data is in it. Wikipedia says AM has "Users: More than 37 million (as of July 2015)" so that mean ~270 bytes per user. That's enough for name, password hash, email address, card...
[07:55:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Data - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:55:57] <exec> 08└─> So the hack proves some people has a registration there. IANAL but I think this information is not enough reason in court for a divorce. Hack also proves they paid for premium access. But in most of the western world the only 'reason' needed for divorce is one person wanting to get one - its calle...
[07:55:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03dcollins [1168] (Score:2) 02Re:Data - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 685 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:55:59] <exec> 08└─Reuters: "Hackers dumped online personal details of more than a million users of infidelity website AshleyMadison.com, tech websites reported on Tuesday, the latest high-profile cyber attack that threatens to wreak strife in relationships across the globe... the dump was massive, according to Troy H...
[07:56:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03nyder [4525] (Score:3, Interesting) 02root power - 06Botched Google Stagefright Fix Won't be Resolved Until September - 630 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:56:01] <exec> 08└─While this sucks for people and also shows what exactly google has become (slow big ass corporation that can't move fast anymore), it's a boon to various android devices that haven't been root yet. For example, the Amazon Fire TV has been hard to root for awhile, because there hasn't been any softw...
[07:56:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:root power - 06Botched Google Stagefright Fix Won't be Resolved Until September - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:03] <exec> 08└─AT&T pushed the update without explaining what the update was for and managed to unroot my phone in the process. And then I found out a day or two later that the fix wasn't even effective, so they've manage to increase the risk of damaging my phone while still failing to fix the problem.
[07:56:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02cyanogen? - 06Botched Google Stagefright Fix Won't be Resolved Until September - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:56:05] <exec> 08└─Does this have any effect on CyanogenMod with Google Apps installed?
[07:56:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score:2) 02So, what I gather is, - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:56:09] <exec> 08└─that they've invented an inflatable bounce house with a space elevator on top? Watch 10mph winds tip it over, and gasp at the 12 mile long city-wide devastation.
[07:56:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So, what I gather is, - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:15] <exec> 08└─Eh, no. There's no space elevator on top. They've invented calling an inflatable bounce house a "space elevator".
[07:56:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:So, what I gather is, - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:22] <exec> 08└─Space elevators, like flu vaccines, are one of those ideas that I've always thought were not only unnecessary but pants-on-head retarded. But sometimes even nerds can be subtle in their trolling.
[07:56:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:So, what I gather is, - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:25] <exec> 08└─Cloud Nine [wikipedia.org] as old as '50-ies.
[07:56:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"Canadian Patent" - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:56:27] <exec> 08└─Hehehehe.
[07:56:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:"Canadian Patent" - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:28] <exec> 08└─Hehehehe.
[07:56:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:"Canadian Patent" - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 8 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:30] <exec> 08└─eheheheh
[07:56:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:"Canadian Patent" - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:32] <exec> 08└─Yeah Canada has never patented anything useful. Apart from the telephone. And insulin. And electron microscopes... and
[07:56:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:"Canadian Patent" - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:34] <exec> 08└─the Canadarm. Of course, the US just used it to masterbate...
[07:56:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Two Things... - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:56:36] <exec> 08└─Elavator is spelled Elevator, and patents shouldn't be given ideas that have been around for 100 years.
[07:56:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03ese002 [5306] (Score:1) 02Re:Two Things... - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:38] <exec> 08└─Elavator is spelled Elevator, and patents shouldn't be given ideas that have been around for 100 years.
[07:56:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Two Things... - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:40] <exec> 08└─and patents shouldn't be given ideas that have been around for 100 years.
[07:56:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:1) 02Re:Two Things... - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:42] <exec> 08└─But in principle at least, they've presented an actual idea for building one that they doesn't list unobtainium on its parts list.
[07:56:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Two Things... - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:48] <exec> 08└─No, no, they've invented the electronic lavatory, or e-lavator for short. It's quite spacious!
[07:56:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:Two Things... - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:56:54] <exec> 08└─Huh. And here I thought someone had invented a method of washing the internet.
[07:56:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Appalbarry [66] (Score:2) 02Useful links - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:57:00] <exec> 08└─Company web site [thothx.com] Press release. [thothx.com] Actual USPO Registration [uspto.gov]
[07:57:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Space. They keep using that word... - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:57:02] <exec> 08└─Seeing as how they are less than 1/4 of the way to space, they're going to need a really long runway on the top floor to land that space plane.
[07:57:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Space. They keep using that word... - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:57:04] <exec> 08└─They should build two. If elevators don't work, slingshots could be tried
[07:57:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Some call me Tim [5819] (Score:1) 02Re:Space. They keep using that word... - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:57:06] <exec> 08└─Owning up to my posts, the parent is mine. I finally got an account to work.
[07:57:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score:2) 02It's the delta v that matters. - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 465 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:57:08] <exec> 08└─Starting 20 km up is equivalent to reducing your required delta V by about 600 m/s. So a worthwhile improvement, and it might be enough to make a SSTO (Single Stage To Orbit) economical. An SSTO at the moment has to have such extreme performance that while possible to build, they would be incredibly...
[07:57:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's the delta v that matters. - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:57:09] <exec> 08└─That is a big advantage if they can pull it off. This is the part I have a problem with: "returning to the top of the tower for refueling and reflight." How the heck do they intend to shed all that delta V so they can land on the platform? If I missed the fact that they've invented anti-gravity prop...
[07:57:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score:2) 02Re:It's the delta v that matters. - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 984 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:57:11] <exec> 08└─You get about 460 m/s by launching east from the equator. Building it in Canada seems strange, as losing that advantage cancels out most of the gain from launching at altitude. If you combined equator and tower, you knock about a km/s off your delta v. That would be very significant. Regarding landi...
[07:57:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:It's the delta v that matters. - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:57:13] <exec> 08└─Starting 20 km up is equivalent to reducing your required delta V by about 600 m/s. So a worthwhile improvement, and it might be enough to make a SSTO (Single Stage To Orbit) economical.
[07:57:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Some call me Tim [5819] (Score:1) 02Re:It's the delta v that matters. - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:57:15] <exec> 08└─They'll need to tether it at the top with a proper amount of mass in orbit to keep it stable. At least that's what Arthur C. Clark had in mind in his book The Fountains of Paradise.
[07:57:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score:2) 02Re:It's the delta v that matters. - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:57:20] <exec> 08└─It's like building a longer pier in NYC, so that the ships that sail to Europe would have a shorter trip.
[07:57:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedBear [1734] (Score:2) 02Space kitty - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:57:26] <exec> 08└─I'm all for it, but only if there's a temple [wikia.com] with a talking white cat [wikia.com] at the top.
[07:57:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03dltaylor [4693] (Score:2) 02you mean besides porn? - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 739 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:57:32] <exec> 08└─There's the NSA, GCHQ, ... folks, of course, but think of all of the requirements, both business and governmental, for data retention. How much email in a Fortune 500 should be archived (yeah, I know most of it is "LOOK! KITTENS!", but filtering is risky). How much data logging for all to/from for p...
[07:57:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:you mean besides porn? - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:57:37] <exec> 08└─Even with 22.2 audio, it would take translating the movie into all known languages to even start being noticeable compared to your other examples
[07:57:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:you mean besides porn? - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:57:39] <exec> 08└─Iterative backups?
[07:57:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score:2) 02Cloud - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:57:41] <exec> 08└─Well at least this should finally put to bed that ridiculous cloud storage fad. With this much compact storage at their fingertips, surely no-one will still take seriously paying for the bandwidth to transmit and later re-download their private data to a third party who could discontinue the system...
[07:57:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score:2) 02Re:Cloud - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:57:43] <exec> 08└─What practical use is there for such capacities?
[07:57:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cloud - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:57:45] <exec> 08└─Now cue the jokes about people's pr0n collections.
[07:57:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score:2) 02Re:Cloud - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:57:47] <exec> 08└─Uhh yeh, it's called a mistake, just like yo momma told me you were. That's why I fixed it by making a redundant copy of the exact same post where it should have been to begin with.
[07:57:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:Cloud - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:57:49] <exec> 08└─You should look at datahoarder on reddit. One of the (former?) moderators there has 2 PETAbytes of pornography, but I can't remember the url offhand where you can browse it.
[07:57:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Cloud - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:57:50] <exec> 08└─'The cloud' isn't used because people don't have enough HD space, upload bottlenecks guarantee that. Instead it is for off-site backups... which, funnily enough, sucks more of the fun out of your prediction because they don't upload to the cloud then destroy their own copy of it. This is not the fir...
[07:57:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score:2) 02Re:Cloud - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 481 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:57:56] <exec> 08└─That's still only strictly necessary for an organization that's so small it's only got one site for its servers. I get that there's an advantage in outsourcing backups or load balancing to a third party that specializes in it. The cloud term has been used by marketing departments to mean far more th...
[07:57:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Cloud - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:57:59] <exec> 08└─It's being pushed hard onto the home user for just the purposes I described.
[07:58:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Cloud - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:58:01] <exec> 08└─I work in a context where 15TB is small data. We do, and still will, use the "the cloud" for big data. 15TB would be nice for the front-end cache though.
[07:58:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02my app - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:58:03] <exec> 08└─What practical use is there for such capacities? What would you do with one (or more) of these? How would this fit into your "Big Data" application?
[07:58:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What practical use is there for such capacities? - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:58:07] <exec> 08└─I can see a drop in the carbon footprint of the NSA's centres. (if CIA would have the same environmental mind and stop waterboarding, maybe it will help solving the California water shortage)
[07:58:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:2) 02Not that big - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 602 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:58:13] <exec> 08└─That's a couple hundred thousand 50 megapickle RAW files as the come off a Canon 5Ds. Might sound like a big number...but it's pretty typical for a pro photographer to shoot at least a few hundred pictures per event (wedding, sports game, whatever) -- meaning this drive wouldn't even store a year's...
[07:58:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:Not that big - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:58:17] <exec> 08└─That's a couple hundred thousand 50 megapickle RAW files as the come off a Canon 5Ds.
[07:58:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Not that big - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:58:19] <exec> 08└─Did you know a cucumber is 96% water? Did you know that, as acid one would like to call the DNA, it isn't sour enough to make a pickle? Did you know the estimate of the average DNA in the human body is roughly around 0.6-0.7 kg [metafilter.com]? The relevant conclusion: I think I'll donate my body a...
[07:58:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Not that big - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 1251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:58:21] <exec> 08└─I actually wanted a figure for the theoretical limits of storage in matter itself, not DNA, but I couldn't find it. For example, like this [wikipedia.org] for computation: It may be possible to use a black hole as a data storage and/or computing device, if a practical mechanism for extraction of con...
[07:58:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Not that big - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:58:23] <exec> 08└─The upper limit of modelling: the most compact and exact model for the behaviour of a matter/energy configuration is the configuration itself.
[07:58:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Not that big - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:58:27] <exec> 08└─I actually wanted a figure for the theoretical limits of storage in matter itself, not DNA, but I couldn't find it.
[07:58:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:Not that big - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 1089 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:58:33] <exec> 08└─You're not supposed to keep all those photos. Most of those wind up being deleted for lack of space because they aren't usable. What you fail to consider here is that the best photographers are the ones with the highest standards. Which means that most of the photos won't be up to their standards. N...
[07:58:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Not that big - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 545 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:58:39] <exec> 08└─They need to store the bad photos at some point, and as others have pointed out, the storage requirements for uncompressed RAW 4K and 8K video are massive, easily wrecking a measly 15-16 TB drive. Animated/CGI-heavy films especially need a lot of dense and fast storage to handle rendering, and big c...
[07:58:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:2) 02Re:Not that big - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 1707 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:58:43] <exec> 08└─Nevertheless, if there's no marginal cost in keeping everything, the smart move is to keep everything. Sure, only a couple / few dozen images make it into the album that the couple take home with them. And only one or two of them get framed and printed big enough to make use of the full resolution....
[07:58:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Not that big - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 968 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:58:46] <exec> 08└─That's not generally how that works. And no, it's not a smart move. You're paying hundreds and maybe even thousands of dollars to store and backup photos on the off chance that somebody wants a copy quite a bit later. And you're not just storing a copy, you're storing the original of photos that wer...
[07:58:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Re:Not that big - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:58:48] <exec> 08└─That's a couple hundred thousand 50 megapickle RAW files as the come off a Canon 5Ds.
[07:58:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03calzone [2181] (Score:2) 02AV - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:58:50] <exec> 08└─video and audio production. that gobbles up data in a heartbeat. in particular, some pros might want to raid these puppies because video and audio data is precious, as well as a performance-hog.
[07:58:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03zeigerpuppy [1298] (Score:2) 02Re:AV - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:58:51] <exec> 08└─That's for that imagery, I'm now imagining a redundant array of independent (inexpensive) puppies. A RAIP no less, not sure how I feel about swapping out puppies.
[07:58:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score:2) 02There's never enough storage - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:58:53] <exec> 08└─What practical use is there for such capacities?
[07:58:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Is that the *actual* actual size? - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:58:55] <exec> 08└─Though claimed capacity is 16 TB, actual available storage is 15.36 TB (providing 640 GB of over provisioning.)
[07:58:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Is that the *actual* actual size? - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 458 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:58:57] <exec> 08└─Those debates ended nearly a decade ago. 1 terabyte = 1 trillion bytes 1 tebibyte = 1,099,511,627,776 bytes 1 gibibyte = 1,073,741,824 bytes As beautiful of powers of 2 are, the SI prefixes express powers of 1,000. 16 TB = 16,000 gigabytes = ~14.5519 tebibytes = ~14,901.1612 gibibytes = 16 trillion...
[07:59:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is that the *actual* actual size? - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:59:03] <exec> 08└─> If you want nice and neat powers of 2, build a ramdisk. Flash is RAM. Slower than DRAM, but it is still RAM.
[07:59:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02What practical use is there for such capacities? - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 633 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:59:10] <exec> 08└─I think the adage "build it and they will come" generally applies in the area of computer technology. You build a 15 TB SDD flash drive and people will sooner or later line up at your door to buy them. In this case, probably sooner. In the world of Big Data, 15 TB is a drop in the bucket, and SSD dr...
[07:59:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02for your protection - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:59:16] <exec> 08└─the best use of these may be to integrate them into police cars with "always on" dash cams instead of "on when they choose or turn on their siren" or some other bullshit scheme that misses the action some of the time. with good encoding, this could hold over a year of continuous video. the same goes...
[07:59:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02No uses - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:59:17] <exec> 08└─What practical use is there for such capacities?
[07:59:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Hear that? - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:59:19] <exec> 08└─That was the sound of millions of techies and systems administrators creaming their pants and opening their wallets...
[07:59:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Legalize It - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:59:21] <exec> 08└─Don't criticize it.
[07:59:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Legalize It - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:59:23] <exec> 08└─Yup, encourage high-grade stuff and watch natural selection happen. Since it's growing among non-hispanic whites, getting all the orphans adopted won't be too difficult.
[07:59:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Legalize It - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:59:25] <exec> 08└─Yup, encourage high-grade stuff and watch natural selection happen.
[07:59:26] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] 02Re:Legalize It - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 263 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:59:27] <exec> 08└─It's about the fundamental right to control your own body. It's amazing that people in 'the land of the free and the home of the brave' can support things like the drug war which violate our most basic rights and yet still claim that freedom is desirable to them.
[07:59:28] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03vux984 [5045] 02Re:Legalize It - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 58 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:59:29] <exec> 08└─It's about the fundamental right to control your own body.
[07:59:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Legalize It - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 1748 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:59:31] <exec> 08└─Selling your child into slavery is a crime regardless of the legal status of heroin. Here are some of the benefits of legalizing a dangerous category of drugs (opiates): You can get the purity checked out. There are already NGOs that offer this service [bbc.com] for free, but removing the threat of...
[07:59:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Legalize It - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:59:35] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure if we're on the same side of this debate. I do agree that criminalization and a 'war on drugs' is not a solution. I don't agree you should have the absolute right to just stick crap in your body without government intervention... whether you're eating rat poison or sticking street heroi...
[07:59:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:Legalize It - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:59:41] <exec> 08└─Its Hard to exercise your 'fundamental rights' when your brain chemistry is fucked up by the drugs, and you want another hit so badly you'd sell your own child into slavery for a hit.
[07:59:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Legalize It - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:59:47] <exec> 08└─Well, that would totally decimate support for both the Dem's and the Rep's.
[07:59:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:4, Touché) 02Re:Legalize It - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:59:52] <exec> 08└─It's not that simple.
[07:59:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Legalize It - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:59:54] <exec> 08└─Uh, no. You can still exercise your fundamental rights even when you're on drugs.
[07:59:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Legalize It - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:59:56] <exec> 08└─Its Hard to exercise your 'fundamental rights' when your brain chemistry is fucked up by the drugs, and you want another hit so badly you'd sell your own child into slavery for a hit.
[07:59:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Many drugs should remain illegal - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 510 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:59:58] <exec> 08└─There are many chemicals out there, which are genuinely bad for society. Like cocaine, heroin, krokodil, meth. What if a father gets hooked on a drug, and gets large medical bills, or dies. Who will pay for his kids? Many people have tried illegal drugs, and many are dead for them. Just like many pi...
[07:59:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Many drugs should remain illegal - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 537 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:00:00] <exec> 08└─Cocaine, heroin and meth are all relatively harmless in recreational doses. For example, Charles Dickens and Ben Franklin were both regular opium users, which is essentially just heroin by another name. Freud and Edison enjoyed cocaine -- hell Coca-Cola contained cocaine for years. Krokodil only ex...
[08:00:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Legalize It - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:00:02] <exec> 08└─> Legalize It > Don't criticize it. And I will advertise it! Man, the cultural literacy here is weak.
[08:00:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:3, Insightful) 02What's the cause? - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 897 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:00:04] <exec> 08└─Ask that question of somebody "close to the hang 'em end of the spectrum" and the answers will come in the form of availability and price and that sort of thing. But from a less insane perspective, it seems pretty obvious that people aren't going to want to commit slow suicide through self-medicatio...
[08:00:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:What's the cause? - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:00:06] <exec> 08└─...unless their lives are pretty shitty to begin with.
[08:00:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:What's the cause? - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:00:12] <exec> 08└─Legal and over-prescribed opioid painkillers are being identified as a "gateway" to the cheaper and easy-to-get heroin.
[08:00:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Re:What's the cause? - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:00:15] <exec> 08└─And the thing is...people who want to escape their lives through drugs pretty obviously don't have anything else left to lose or to live for or to care about.
[08:00:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:2, Insightful) 02In Other News - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:00:17] <exec> 08└─Since the U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan, its heroin exports have vastly expanded, enabling fresh new revenue streams to fund the CIA's special projects.
[08:00:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:In Other News - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:00:21] <exec> 08└─Yep, keeping Fresh troops for Iraq required letting the warlords do whatever would bring the most apparent peace. I guess some foreign-controlled extremist terrorists are just better at eliminating drugs than others.
[08:00:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Blowback - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 2768 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:00:27] <exec> 08└─There's a great CIA-authored term for the unforeseen consequences of international intervention, or war, which is blowback. The US Civil War removed the right of states to peacefully withdraw from the Union, leading to the inability of states to limit the overstepping of the Federal Government. It w...
[08:00:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Blowback - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:00:32] <exec> 08└─Thanks, that list was interesting to read. One small request as an American: please don't use the word "homeland" to describe America. The term is execrable.
[08:00:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:Blowback - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:00:34] <exec> 08└─You're welcome. :D Would "Continental United States" be a better term than "homeland"? Or maybe "the territorial integrity of the nation"? There's no pithy term that fits quite as well.
[08:00:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:3, Funny) 02So, when's the announcement? - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 445 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:00:36] <exec> 08└─"heroin has infiltrated many communities, largely because of its easy availability and its low price" I'm looking forward to the official DC announcement "The war on drugs has been a complete and utter failure with regard to reaching its stated ultimate goals. So far we have spent, or should we say...
[08:00:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score:2) 02Re:So, when's the announcement? - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:00:37] <exec> 08└─BWAHAHAHAHHA!!! Oh good one!! my serious take on this: The PTB will spin it like "Despite the success of the last 30 years in eradicating drugs in the USA recent actions by terrorist groups to harm this nation have caused an influx of drugs into the USA. The DEA,along with the DHS and affiliated dep...
[08:00:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02We've got to do better - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:00:39] <exec> 08└─- Are we going to solve the problem? No. - Are we going to prevent all cases of addiction? No. That doesn't get us off the hook. We need more money for treatment programs, more interdiction and less lock 'em up enforcement for non-dealing junkies.
[08:00:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:We've got to do better - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:00:43] <exec> 08└─Can't do that, sorry: All the money is used to successfully prevent terrorists from bringing in people and materials which could be used to harm Americans.
[08:00:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:We've got to do better - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 484 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:00:50] <exec> 08└─The good news is that there seems to be bipartisan support for dealing with the heroin problem in a mature way, increasing the use of naloxone [npr.org] by first [npr.org] responders [npr.org], as well as pushing forward with the political hot potato of needle exchanges [npr.org]. The bad news is th...
[08:00:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:We've got to do better - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 406 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:00:56] <exec> 08└─Not merely less "lock 'em up enforcement"; we need to stop infringing upon people's fundamental right to control their own bodies by legalizing all drugs outright. Anyone who speaks of safety as a reason to keep these drugs illegal is a coward and doesn't truly value our most basic liberties, and mi...
[08:00:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1, Disagree) 02Re:We've got to do better - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 764 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:01:01] <exec> 08└─This isn't a fundamental right. Show me where it is stated in the constitution that you have the right to use drugs and I'll reconsider my point of view. People regularly die as a result of ODing on heroine. I think pot and LSD are the only ones I can think of that are illegal, but don't routinely k...
[08:01:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:We've got to do better - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:01:03] <exec> 08└─If ALL the impact fell on the user, I'd be with the Pumpernickel. Somehow our inability to let someone die by their own hand keeps bringing other people and other costs into debate. There may be no good reasons, but there clearly are plenty of reasons why anybody should be shooting up with heroine o...
[08:01:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:We've got to do better - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:01:05] <exec> 08└─If ALL the impact fell on the user, I'd be with the Pumpernickel.
[08:01:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:We've got to do better - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 720 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:01:07] <exec> 08└─Are you seriously equating pumping your body full of things that are known to be toxic, addictive and otherwise harmful with ice skating and mountain climbing? Those activities are risky, but when done with proper education and preparation are relatively safe. Some people will be injured or killed,...
[08:01:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:We've got to do better - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:01:09] <exec> 08└─Are you seriously equating pumping your body full of things that are known to be toxic, addictive and otherwise harmful with ice skating and mountain climbing?
[08:01:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:We've got to do better - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:01:11] <exec> 08└─Are you seriously equating pumping your body full of things that are known to be toxic, addictive and otherwise harmful with ice skating and mountain climbing? Those activities are risky, but when done with proper education and preparation are relatively safe.
[08:01:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:We've got to do better - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 675 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:01:14] <exec> 08└─Obviously heroin, crack, meth, etc. are not "good" drugs. But would decriminalization of those drugs raise their rates of use? Not necessarily. They are already very marginal compared to cannabis. Cannabis use is at around 7.5%, cocaine is around 1%, and other illicit drugs come in under 1%. The wor...
[08:01:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:We've got to do better - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:01:19] <exec> 08└─If you don't have complete rights to your own person and body, what rights do you have? And what about the countless sufferers of our most exalted drug - alcohol? If we outlawed drugs based on the harm users do, alcohol would not stand a chance.
[08:01:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:0, Troll) 02Re:We've got to do better - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 515 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:01:23] <exec> 08└─I take it you're in favor of disbanding the FDA and Public Health because we should have the right to ingest known toxic substances if we feel like it? The only reason why alcohol is legal is because people refused to obey the law, including too many law enforcement officers. It's not legal because...
[08:01:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score:2) 02Re:We've got to do better - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 479 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:01:25] <exec> 08└─I'm not even American and I understand your constitution better than you. It is a list of what the government is allowed to do. If it is not on the the list they can't do it. The only control they have over citizens is that explicitly given. Now show me where in the US constitution it says "the gove...
[08:01:26] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] 02Re:We've got to do better - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 31 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:01:27] <exec> 08└─This isn't a fundamental right.
[08:01:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:We've got to do better - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:01:32] <exec> 08└─Switch them to legal cannabis.
[08:01:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02Re:We've got to do better - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:01:38] <exec> 08└─Not everyone likes weed, and there are very many responsible users of "hard" drugs. The problem is that teenagers and young adults are getting hooked on drugs and they don't have the experience to control themselves and their impulses. Legalization of all drugs and a rational distribution system wit...
[08:01:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03unzombied [4572] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Reasoning behind Policies - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:01:43] <exec> 08└─4+ decades of "drug war" tactics and U.S. drug addiction is roughly constant [democraticunderground.com]. Meanwhile, Portugal has a decade of decriminalization [spiegel.de], counseling, responding to each individual's situation, with considerably better outcome. Which raises the question, are eviden...
[08:01:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score:3, Informative) 02want to save lives? Legalize it - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 351 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:01:45] <exec> 08└─It is a fact that most ODs are caused by a user getting heroin that is of a higher purity than they are used to. If it is legalized the purity can be regulated, just like it is with alcohol and tobacco, and the number of people ODing will plummet and put all the money saved by not putting users in j...
[08:01:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:3, Insightful) 02"heroin response strategy" - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:01:48] <exec> 08└─A "heroin response strategy". We need to go around telling people that doing heroin is bad for you? If they have not or can't figure that out for themselves I seriously doubt they are going to listen to "the man" coming to take their smack away.
[08:01:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02If you lived in a state - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:01:50] <exec> 08└─where Peter Shumlin was governor you'd understand why so many have turned to heroin.
[08:01:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Opiates - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:01:54] <exec> 08└─The only opiate I've ever had is in the form of codeine I've gotten in cough syrup. I must say the effect is lovely. The first day. After that it gives me ferocious headaches. Does that happen with opium and heroin as well? Do you lose the euphoric effect that quickly? If so, it seems hard to imagin...
[08:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Committed to freedom of expression... - 06U.S. Delays Giving Up Oversight of Internet Administrator Icann - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:02:01] <exec> 08└─You mean... only when doesn't conflict with US interests [boingboing.net]?
[08:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Committed to freedom of expression... - 06U.S. Delays Giving Up Oversight of Internet Administrator Icann - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:02:08] <exec> 08└─Yes, that's exactly what they mean. Tell people to take up Jihad in youtube videos, and they'll murder the fuck out of you. Broadly speaking, I see the people most in favor of that kind of action as being the same people asserting that free speech is absolute in other situations.
[08:02:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03patella.whack [3848] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Committed to freedom of expression... - 06U.S. Delays Giving Up Oversight of Internet Administrator Icann - 437 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:02:16] <exec> 08└─I agree that US influence is a problem. I haven't noticed any viable alternatives, though... "planned to transfer Icann oversight to an unspecified group of international stakeholders." "the extension will provide time to work out additional details on how a “multistakeholder” governance appro...
[08:02:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03purple_cobra [1435] (Score:1) 02Re:Committed to freedom of expression... - 06U.S. Delays Giving Up Oversight of Internet Administrator Icann - 509 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:02:22] <exec> 08└─Absolutely, and while they're all arguing then nothing gets done; that, of course, means that nothing *bad* is done, so it's not an entirely awful state of affairs. While I don't trust US-led governance, no immediately sensible alternatives come to mind either, i.e. better the devil you know. The th...
[08:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Country vs. country - 06U.S. Delays Giving Up Oversight of Internet Administrator Icann - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:02:26] <exec> 08└─Critics of the plan have expressed concerns that it may open the door to influence by foreign governments that aren't committed to Western principles of free expression, and may want to impose different rules for administering the Internet in different parts of the world.
[08:02:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02the internet belongs to the west - 06U.S. Delays Giving Up Oversight of Internet Administrator Icann - 1017 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:02:29] <exec> 08└─we designed it, we popularized it, its a mirror of our culture. it USED to be very free and open (partially still is, but getting worse each passing year). if the repressive countries want their own rules, fine, have them build a parallel and separate internet. have fun, guys! perhaps what we need i...
[08:02:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the internet belongs to the west - 06U.S. Delays Giving Up Oversight of Internet Administrator Icann - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:02:31] <exec> 08└─Yeah man... Echo chambers for everyone. No one should be exposed to any opinion they don't like... Moron!
[08:02:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Spam) 02Le Moo - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:02:32] <exec> 08└─Moo, you colorful psychedelic ar/au-tistic cows, mooo! Say MOO, OOM, OMO, and MOM!
[08:02:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:4, Insightful) 02my theory - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:02:34] <exec> 08└─For evaluating problems non autistics search breadth first, pseudoautistics go for depth first. When they find a solution in the deep end, it is unusual. Stands well with rigidity and autism in general. BTW creativity is not in the amount of solutions proposed, but in the quality of the filter emplo...
[08:02:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:my theory - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:02:38] <exec> 08└─For evaluating problems non autistics search breadth first, pseudoautistics go for depth first.
[08:02:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:my theory - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:02:45] <exec> 08└─Not abandoning starting positions until all solutions have been found is depth-first, indeed it becomes desperate when the starting position is not abandoned after realizing you have no more possibilities to test, but that's for people who go full autistic, I guess.
[08:02:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:my theory - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 856 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:02:52] <exec> 08└─re: quality of filtering I read an interesting article once. The writer was suffering from a lifetime of depression (dysthymia) and was frustrated at both the world's view of depression and the expectation that it be treated with drugs. One of the points the writer raised was the perception among, s...
[08:02:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:my theory - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 892 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:02:58] <exec> 08└─Speaking as someone diagnosed with Aspergers: I don't think people on the autistic spectrum search depth-first. That would be just ridiculously inefficient, and wouldn't be usable in day-to-day life. What it might come down to is subconscious filtering. Everyone's brain filters out some solutions be...
[08:03:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I focus on breadth-first search. - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 2116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:03:01] <exec> 08└─I find solutions no one else finds. Not that they cannot find them but they do not find them. I remain puzzled by that. My Computer Employer Index for example. If you want to work in Portland you will search in Portland right? Maybe Vancouver but certainly NOT San Francisco. But many San Francisco t...
[08:03:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:4, Interesting) 02It's now the autism *spectrum* - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 761 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:03:03] <exec> 08└─Do note that, in the interests of increasing the number of people who are sick, deserving of special treatment, or whatever, the definition of autism has been hugely expanded. It now encompasses not only Aspergers, other things including "subthreshold autism". That last refers to people who have no...
[08:03:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:It's now the autism *spectrum* - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 880 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:03:05] <exec> 08└─It's a little more complicated than that. The main driver of the increase in frequency is that there's more awareness of the condition than there was in the past. These people are probably not any more common than they used to be, but because of increased access to accommodations that came in the ea...
[08:03:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:It's now the autism *spectrum* - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:03:07] <exec> 08└─there's more awareness of the condition than there was in the past.
[08:03:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:It's now the autism *spectrum* - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:03:08] <exec> 08└─Autism spectrum isn't a mental illness at the high functioning end, in the same way running a temperature of 98.8 isn't an illness. That doesn't mean that the diagnostic criteria don't apply.
[08:03:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:It's now the autism *spectrum* - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:03:10] <exec> 08└─Yeah, thanks for proving my point. But it seems you forgot the last word of the formal definition: It is officially Autism Spectrum Disorder, a definition that has expanded over the years to include everyone [nymag.com]. Meanwhile, from the world of real medicine, my expanding girth as I age apparen...
[08:03:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:It's now the autism *spectrum* - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:03:16] <exec> 08└─Nope, you're just being a dumbass. Autism spectrum hits about 1/70 people. That's a lot, but "everyone" is just you bullshitting to pretend your fake-ass non-point sounds less fake.
[08:03:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:It's now the autism *spectrum* - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 890 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:03:22] <exec> 08└─Ritalin doesn't stifle creativity. I'm not sure where you got the idea that it does that, because it doesn't. What it does do is stimulate areas of the brain so that you have control over them. All the creativity in the world doesn't do you a lick of good if you can't get anything completed because...
[08:03:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:It's now the autism *spectrum* - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:03:29] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but NO. http://www.add-adhd.org [add-adhd.org]
[08:03:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:It's now the autism *spectrum* - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 762 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:03:33] <exec> 08└─And how precisely does this relate to anything that I've said? That was written by a bureaucrat that isn't even a doctor. Yes, they probably are being over-prescribed a bit, but the letter is talking about people who are going shopping for prescriptions. Not people who have legitimate diagnoses for...
[08:03:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:It's now the autism *spectrum* - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:04:03] <exec> 08└─It's no longer acceptable to blame the student for poor performance...
[08:04:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:It's now the autism *spectrum* - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:04:06] <exec> 08└─This tendency is common in psychology, unlike just about any other field of medicine.
[08:04:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Autism is environmental - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:04:08] <exec> 08└─The main driver of the increase in frequency is that there's more awareness of the condition than there was in the past.
[08:04:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Autism is environmental - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:04:09] <exec> 08└─Actually, when you speak of the social 'sciences' and their constant need to redefine what qualifies as a mental illness or similar, awareness does play a part. The social 'sciences' are filled with subjectivity, so they can't really be compared to other fields.
[08:04:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Autism is environmental - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:04:11] <exec> 08└─I'm sorry, but citation needed applies to you. But I don't mean "Show me some supporting evidence," I mean "Show me supporting peer-reviewed medical research that outright states your position." You appear to have carefully picked your evidence to support your position, and discarded all else: you h...
[08:04:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Autism is environmental - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 1003 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:04:13] <exec> 08└─Wow, are you seriously suggesting that a lack of a diagnosis is the same thing as a lack of a case? Because that's a huge problem. A lot of marginal cases were never diagnosed because the child wasn't quite stupid enough to require testing, they had a marginal IQ, but since it was slightly too high,...
[08:04:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Re:Autism is environmental - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 849 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:04:19] <exec> 08└─My links were about one specific program that you should watch. If you want some real research, there is plenty, but gut flora is "icky" so much less research happens there. It's not like sexy gene sequencing. http://www.scientificamerican.com [scienti...
[08:04:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score:2) 02Re:Autism is environmental - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 664 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:04:26] <exec> 08└─Earliest documented treatment for autism-like disorder dates back to the late 1780's, the term "autism" itself is roughly 100 years old, the use of the term in its modern sense is roughly 70 years old (this use was introduced by Hans Asperger - the first westener who described the syndrome (in 1944)...
[08:04:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:It's now the autism *spectrum* - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:04:32] <exec> 08└─It's summer and some of the gals in town know how to dress to impress - so every time I look out of my window, I find myself on the rapist spectrum.
[08:04:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03patella.whack [3848] (Score:2) 02Not autism spectrum anymore - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 685 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:04:36] <exec> 08└─I agree with you regarding the general expansion of recognized 'disorders,' and I also agree that 'autism spectrum,' diagnoses, among many others have recently become laughable. FWIW, the committee, case-study approach the APA uses to define the DSMs seems also highly political and unscientific. How...
[08:04:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03albert [276] (Score:2) 02the APA being political - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:04:38] <exec> 08└─FWIW, the committee, case-study approach the APA uses to define the DSMs seems also highly political and unscientific.
[08:04:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Re:It's now the autism *spectrum* - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:04:42] <exec> 08└─serious introverts ("social difficulties")
[08:04:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03infodragon [3509] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Is it more creative? - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 727 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:04:44] <exec> 08└─Or is it more logical and simplified? The most "creative" ideas in solving problems comes from viewing the problem in ways neurotypicals do not. The reason there is a problem is because it hasn't been solved. A vast majority of neruotypicals have viewed the problem from the same "typical" perspectiv...
[08:04:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Is it more creative? - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:04:46] <exec> 08└─Or is it more logical and simplified?
[08:04:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Is it more creative? - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 650 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:04:49] <exec> 08└─I think you overstate the case. There is noting to suggest that the problem was not solved by normal people, in a wide variety of ways. All they mentioned was that occasionally unique and obtuse solutions were invented by the autistic or near autistic person, usually because they refused to think ou...
[08:04:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Standardizing creativity - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 746 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:04:53] <exec> 08└─The "researchers" are desperate looking to "standardize" creativity. Everything ought to be standardized, poked, studied, dissected, experimented on, recreated in the lab using mice. Watch while a "researcher" makes a chemical formula that existed in the head of Picasso that made him create somethin...
[08:04:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Standardizing creativity - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:04:55] <exec> 08└─The "researchers" are desperate looking to "standardize" creativity. Everything ought to be standardized, poked, studied, dissected, experimented on, recreated in the lab using mice.
[08:04:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Standardizing creativity - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:04:57] <exec> 08└─If it can't be quantified, its not real.
[08:04:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Standardizing creativity - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:04:59] <exec> 08└─Maybe we just don't have the knowledge to understand something right now. That doesn't mean it's not real. Trying to quantify something before you actually understand it leads to all sorts of pseudoscience (IQs, for instance).
[08:05:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score:2) 02Re:Standardizing creativity - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:05:05] <exec> 08└─until you can define and quantify the "soul", it cannot be proven to exist
[08:05:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Standardizing creativity - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:05:11] <exec> 08└─You have a presumptive and assumptive stupid, that's what you have.
[08:05:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Standardizing creativity - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 1009 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:05:16] <exec> 08└─OP here. I've thought some more about this. They systematically put into words how someone they don't like turned out the way he did. Putting ideas into the listeners' minds that a person's unique situation and chemicals to which they were exposed made them do things a certain way, and that you, the...
[08:05:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaganar [605] (Score:1, Flamebait) 02Doesn't sound Open-Source-Only... - 06IBM Introduces Two Open-Source-Only Mainframes - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:05:18] <exec> 08└─Might want to tweak the title -- it's not clear (or likely) that both the drivers and hardware design are open source.
[08:05:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:Doesn't sound Open-Source-Only... - 06IBM Introduces Two Open-Source-Only Mainframes - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:05:20] <exec> 08└─open hardware and open source are NOT the same.
[08:05:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Doesn't sound Open-Source-Only... - 06IBM Introduces Two Open-Source-Only Mainframes - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:05:22] <exec> 08└─The Stallman/GNU explanation. [gnu.org]
[08:05:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Re:Doesn't sound Open-Source-Only... - 06IBM Introduces Two Open-Source-Only Mainframes - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:05:26] <exec> 08└─Why is everyone being modded down so much? Maybe we just all have too many modpoints. The guy made an honest mistake. C'mon people! (Please mod me off-topic, because it is, but my point stands)
[08:05:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02MIPS - 06IBM Introduces Two Open-Source-Only Mainframes - 495 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:05:32] <exec> 08└─Are they charging for "MIPS" for using your own processors or requiring you to buy their IFL processors? There are very good reasons why many people don't use mainframes any more. Both up-front costs and operating costs are utterly ridiculous. They are very fault tolerant, but almost all business ar...
[08:05:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:MIPS - 06IBM Introduces Two Open-Source-Only Mainframes - 1015 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:05:39] <exec> 08└─I don't think pricing has been announced, but no one who isn't already a mainframe shop would buy one of these. Name any new company since Amazon or Google that has adopted a mainframe platform. There aren't any that I know of. New companies use redundant commodity hardware that's cheaper and easier...
[08:05:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:MIPS - 06IBM Introduces Two Open-Source-Only Mainframes - 924 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:05:45] <exec> 08└─The new mainframe is explained (somewhat) here: http://techcrunch.com [techcrunch.com] and more detailed specs here: http://www-03.ibm.com [ibm.com] Its not what you think it is. It is a massively parallel...
[08:05:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Yeah. Headline and summary are hype - 06IBM Introduces Two Open-Source-Only Mainframes - 1138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:05:47] <exec> 08└─Good stuff from frojack. Continue to mod him up. these things are not Linux-only It appears that patella.whack is trying to steal away my Linux Fanboy crown. a chipset of their own design ...but I see nothing that says the processors have an architecture that is not x86-compatible. ...though, if the...
[08:05:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03miljo [5757] (Score:3, Funny) 02That's Great! - 06IBM Introduces Two Open-Source-Only Mainframes - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:05:49] <exec> 08└─I always wanted a mostly POSIX compatible Brontosaurus.
[08:05:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Insightful) 02I'm excited - 06IBM Introduces Two Open-Source-Only Mainframes - 622 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:05:51] <exec> 08└─Mainframes are really architecturally very sophisticated, and after all these years pretty good. You can view pretty much every cluster of crud as a (bad) attempt to reinvent the mainframe. The only true competitors which spring to mind are VMS/VAX clusters, and they're pretty much gone. The compute...
[08:05:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:3, Touché) 02Hardware/software? Run on/run? - 06IBM Introduces Two Open-Source-Only Mainframes - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:05:52] <exec> 08└─IBM is introducing two mainframe servers that run only on the open-source Linux operating system.
[08:05:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:3, Interesting) 02SUSE Easing Linux on the Mainframe with KVM - 06IBM Introduces Two Open-Source-Only Mainframes - 1643 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:05:54] <exec> 08└─This is the big one for me: SUSE Easing Linux on the Mainframe with KVM for IBM z Systems Support http://www.prnewswire.com [prnewswire.com] http://www-03.ibm.com [ib...
[08:05:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:SUSE Easing Linux on the Mainframe with KVM - 06IBM Introduces Two Open-Source-Only Mainframes - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:05:56] <exec> 08└─I'd forgotten about EBCDIC. What a frikkin' nightmare. Even the various flavours of EBCDIC aren’t compatible with each other and a couple of them actually have errors in them.
[08:05:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02Re:SUSE Easing Linux on the Mainframe with KVM - 06IBM Introduces Two Open-Source-Only Mainframes - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:05:58] <exec> 08└─And then you get terminal emulator programs which try to implement EBCDIC, often in interesting and incompatible ways, which screw things up even more.
[08:06:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02IBM VM/CMS - 06IBM Introduces Two Open-Source-Only Mainframes - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:06:04] <exec> 08└─"It's essentially an operating system for defining virtual machines, but was done back in the 1930s or something and is hideously terrible to use. Imagine the most unproductive environment you've ever seen and double it." It is a system designed for all that nasty back of house business stuff that a...
[08:06:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:SUSE Easing Linux on the Mainframe with KVM - 06IBM Introduces Two Open-Source-Only Mainframes - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:06:10] <exec> 08└─If you have never seen z/VM, be glad. It's some of the most awful crud ever created. It's essentially an operating system for defining virtual machines, but was done back in the 1930s or something and is hideously terrible to use. Imagine the most unproductive environment you've ever seen and double...
[08:06:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:2) 02Specs - 06IBM Introduces Two Open-Source-Only Mainframes - 1400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:06:17] <exec> 08└─"Some of the specs for the machines can be found in this article from Reuters" Really? Where? Because the only vaguely relevant line I see is: IBM said LinuxONE Emperor can scale up to 8,000 virtual machines or thousands of containers, which would be the most for any single Linux system. That's not...
[08:06:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03schad [2398] (Score:2) 02Re:Specs - 06IBM Introduces Two Open-Source-Only Mainframes - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:06:19] <exec> 08└─You buy a mainframe because you need reliability. Everything else a mainframe offers can be gotten in other ways, and usually for a lot less money.
[08:06:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Specs - 06IBM Introduces Two Open-Source-Only Mainframes - 653 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:06:21] <exec> 08└─It IS a rack. A rack of custom processors, each with costume numbers of multiple Cores, married with custom IO channels (of monumental bandwidth) and power and cooling etc, etc. I'd recommend reading http://www-03.ibm.com [ibm.com] or taking the virtual tour https://dqtl7...
[08:06:22] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03ikanreed [3164] 02kind of a dick move - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 3 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:06:23] <exec> 08└─n/t
[08:06:24] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03drussell [2678] 02Surprise, surprise - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 158 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:06:25] <exec> 08└─Wow, someone used a feature that allows others to easily drop photos into your phone to actually drop photos into your phone? And you're surprised? [Facepalm]
[08:06:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Surprise, surprise - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:06:26] <exec> 08└─its the user's own fault. you should have installed iPrude(tm), first.
[08:06:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:4, Insightful) 02Privacy issue? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 711 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:06:28] <exec> 08└─It would be a privacy issue if the penis image was sent without the permission of the man the penis belonged to. Or if even the penis was photographed without the man knowing about it. It would also be a privacy issue if someone got private data off the woman's phone. But from sending an image to he...
[08:06:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Privacy issue? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 609 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:06:30] <exec> 08└─I'm in the "slightly disagree" category with your argument. Imagine you have a mail slot at your home. Nominally it's for receiving things of interest to you. Advertisers dumping shit in there is annoying, but tolerated. But if a stranger dumped lewd photos in your mail slot, you'd maybe ask questio...
[08:06:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Privacy issue? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 781 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:06:32] <exec> 08└─Your comparison isn't quite right as the device and system was used as it was meant to be used. It would be more like someone sending her a letter with a photograph of a penis and not including a return address on the letter. Sure, it's probably unwanted, but that controls itself as it costs extra m...
[08:06:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Privacy issue? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:06:34] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure I buy this argument, but I can accept it as a valid viewpoint.
[08:06:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03quacking duck [1395] (Score:2) 02Re:Privacy issue? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 992 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:06:37] <exec> 08└─In Canada just recently, anti-abortion extremists were mailing out brochures with graphic images of aborted late-term fetuses. Since there was nothing enclosing them, you literally did not know what you were handling until you'd already seen the images. Such is the case here: From a non-contact, a t...
[08:06:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Privacy issue? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:06:43] <exec> 08└─If it helps, sociopaths make up a full 3% of the population, not just 0.01%. There's plenty around.
[08:06:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Privacy issue? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:06:49] <exec> 08└─Maybe first read the post you reply to (emphasis by me): If AirDrop is configured by default to accept photos by anyone, that's still an issue, but not a privacy issue.
[08:06:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Privacy issue? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:06:56] <exec> 08└─...and how does it impact your position if someone turned up, left an unlocked and open briefcase beside yours, and it contained photographs of a penis that you looked at?
[08:06:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Privacy issue? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:06:58] <exec> 08└─Impact my position? I'm sorry, I don't understand you.
[08:06:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Privacy issue? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:00] <exec> 08└─The point he was making was that if someone looks in your mail slot and spies on you THAT is a privacy issue, someone dropping something in your mail slot cannot ever be a privacy issue (except a camera I guess) due to the definition of the word. He was not saying there was not an issue, just that i...
[08:07:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Privacy issue? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:02] <exec> 08└─Okay. Noted.
[08:07:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Privacy issue? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:04] <exec> 08└─Change your username to ikantread? ;)
[08:07:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03linuxrocks123 [2557] (Score:2) 02Re:Privacy issue? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:06] <exec> 08└─No one said it was pleasant. The assertion was that it was not a privacy issue. It appears someone intentionally caused her discomfort and likely violated public indecency laws. That certainly makes it an issue worth addressing. However, no one's privacy was violated.
[08:07:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Privacy issue? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 511 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:08] <exec> 08└─Privacy: 1) the state of being free from unwanted or undue intrusion or disturbance in one's private life or affairs 2) freedom from damaging publicity, public scrutiny, secret surveillance, or unauthorized disclosure of one’s personal data or information By 2) it's not a privacy issue but by the...
[08:07:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tramii [920] (Score:2) 02Re:Privacy issue? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 640 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:10] <exec> 08└─Your smartphone is not private in any way. It's one of the *least* private things in our lives. Anyone can call/text/email/tweet/etc you at any time. We use it to view webpages and apps like Facebook where just about anything can pop up on our screens. You cannot seriously argue that there is any re...
[08:07:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:Privacy issue? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:12] <exec> 08└─It definitely wasn't intrusion as the system was left open by her and it is an open system. The "disturbance in one's private life or affairs" could possibly be applied, but that would be a much tougher case in court.
[08:07:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Privacy issue? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 504 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:14] <exec> 08└─I kinda see your argument, but this is quickly dissolving into splitting hairs. If I leave my front door ajar it doesn't mean you should piss in my living room. I suppose the thing that needs to be worked out is the acceptable social etiquette around such things. 17 years ago someone left their AOL...
[08:07:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Privacy issue? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 1510 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:16] <exec> 08└─The only hairs being split are being split by you, to support your argument. The device was left wide open: just like a mailbox, if she didn't want stuff put it in, don't leave it open. Here's where you say "But if I open my mouth..." no, that's irrelevant. We're not talking about mouths, pockets, o...
[08:07:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Can't it be both? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 677 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:07:18] <exec> 08└─[quote]Is this a major privacy issue or is it simply a case of a misconfigured device?[/quote] Can't it be both? Clearly its a security and privacy issue if you can just receive information from unknown devices left and right. This time it was a penis (oh the horror!) next time it could be child-por...
[08:07:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Can't it be both? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:24] <exec> 08└─That said what kinda sheltered life has MS Crighton-Smith lived if she gets traumatized by a picture of a penis? Is the clue in the "MS"?
[08:07:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tramii [920] (Score:2) 02Re:Can't it be both? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:30] <exec> 08└─Clearly its a security and privacy issue if you can just receive information from unknown devices left and right.
[08:07:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Can't it be both? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:36] <exec> 08└─Penis over voice is not nearly as effective because it comes off as a tapping sound that sounds like a bad connection. It simply wasn't an issue (unless you knew what that sound was!)
[08:07:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Can't it be both? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:38] <exec> 08└─Clearly its a security and privacy issue if you can just receive information from unknown devices left and right.
[08:07:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Cyber Silliness - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:07:40] <exec> 08└─Would there be a charge if someone mailed you a dick pic? If so, what would it be? Like "cyber bullying", we already have laws for these things for the most part. In most cases they could be written better to apply to a variety of technologies, but in most cases they should still apply.
[08:07:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Re:Cyber Silliness - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:44] <exec> 08└─Would there be a charge if someone mailed you a dick pic? If so, what would it be?
[08:07:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Cyber Silliness - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:50] <exec> 08└─That isn't the charge, that is the punishment.
[08:07:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03drussell [2678] (Score:2) 02John Oliver - Edward Snowden interview - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:07:56] <exec> 08└─I just stumbled upon this and found the interview with Snowden to be priceless: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[08:07:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:John Oliver - Edward Snowden interview - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:08:01] <exec> 08└─Maybe this was Anthony Weiner again - a.k.a. Carlos Danger [youtube.com]?
[08:08:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Where exactly is this "trauma"? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 575 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:08:03] <exec> 08└─What's her name is a vestal virgin? Come on, WTF? She never took an anatomy or biology class, and had no idea what a penis looked like? Getting an unwanted dick pic on your phone is more equivalent to seeing dogs screwing in your front lawn. Or, stepping in dog poo. Icky, maybe, but traumatizing? Oh...
[08:08:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Where exactly is this "trauma"? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:08:05] <exec> 08└─It fits in well with neopuritan drama in main stream media that nobody believes but everyone knows is true. Combine that with the insane commercialization of advertising and spam and it makes no sense. I get thousands of spam emails per week vs zero anonymous dick pix. Frankly the story smells, like...
[08:08:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Where exactly is this "trauma"? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:08:07] <exec> 08└─No, it sounds like Apple has added a brand new feature, and some guy wanted to experiment with it. Her reaction must have been all that he hoped for. Both are pretty sick.
[08:08:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03eof [5559] (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:Where exactly is this "trauma"? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 396 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:08:09] <exec> 08└─She said she was shocked, not traumatized (no variant of the word "trauma" appears in the article). Further, I can understand concern on her part. Unlike dogs in the yard, she was most likely targeted (and from close range). As the transport officer asked, "What's the next stage from sending a naked...
[08:08:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Where exactly is this "trauma"? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 498 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:08:10] <exec> 08└─Does the motive really matter here? Beyond the possibility that it's just one step to something else, I don't think whether or not he's wanking off at the thought of it is terribly important. Sending an image like that is presumably already covered under the UK's rules against sexual harassment. Bar...
[08:08:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03eof [5559] (Score:1) 02Re:Where exactly is this "trauma"? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:08:12] <exec> 08└─I agree there is probably not much more to it than someone get excited by breaching societal norms. I mention the quote simply to point out that, unlike the previous dog examples, there is the potential for some form of escalation. Note that I view the quote as representing two questions, the most i...
[08:08:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Where exactly is this "trauma"? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 882 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:08:14] <exec> 08└─It is a little more unsettling than you might think. It is one thing to be walking down the street and getting flashed, or seeing a picture of a dick laying on the sidewalk, but it is another thing to have it pop up unsolicited on your personal device, sent directly to you. There is a level of viola...
[08:08:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:Where exactly is this "trauma"? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:08:20] <exec> 08└─It is more akin to coming home and finding that someone got into your house and left a dick picture on your counter.
[08:08:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Where exactly is this "trauma"? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:08:26] <exec> 08└─Not if you set up your phone to accept from known contacts, as the article seems to say. Besides, even if the door was unlocked, you wouldn't find it wrong and disturbing if you found the picture on your counter? Or do you just blame yourself for leaving the door unlocked?
[08:08:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Where exactly is this "trauma"? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:08:33] <exec> 08└─No, you left the door open, which is completely different.
[08:08:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Where exactly is this "trauma"? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:08:37] <exec> 08└─Ooops, I meant to type "unlocked". However, it's summer, so I imagine many have their screen doors closed but their security door open.
[08:08:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:2) 02Re:Where exactly is this "trauma"? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:08:39] <exec> 08└─> Getting an unwanted dick pic on your phone is more equivalent to seeing dogs screwing in your front lawn. Is it the equivalent of meatspace [yes, I meant to do that] flashing; and if so is that ok too?
[08:08:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Where exactly is this "trauma"? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 1125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:08:40] <exec> 08└─I'm trying to see this from more than one perspective. Me, and most guys, would roll our eyes at a flasher. He's to damned retarded to take seriously. I've known women with pretty much the same attitude. That, or they are just to dignified and unflappable to show the desired reaction. Most women are...
[08:08:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:2) 02Re:Where exactly is this "trauma"? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:08:42] <exec> 08└─Interesting points, thank you.
[08:08:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Where exactly is this "trauma"? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:08:44] <exec> 08└─Forget boobs, send her goatse.
[08:08:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03e_armadillo [3695] (Score:4, Insightful) 02uhhhhm, improper settings? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:08:46] <exec> 08└─You can set airdrop to accept only from your contacts. It has been a while since I have used it, but if I recall correctly, you don't have to accept something dropped to you. Kinda like not clicking that link in that suspicious email . . .
[08:08:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Misconfigured device - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:08:48] <exec> 08└─Some people are jerks, this is not new. She configures her phone to accept pictures from anyone, and some anonymous jerk sends her an unpleasant pic. The only person she has to blame is herself. Not sure why depositing the pic should be criminal. Is it criminal if I tape a page from Hustler to someo...
[08:08:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Misconfigured device - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:08:52] <exec> 08└─Some people are jerks, this is not new.
[08:08:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Misconfigured device - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:08:58] <exec> 08└─Ah, "just sayin'" - when you realise don't have a very strong point but you decide to throw that in to try and impress the personal importance of your opinion on someone else. Honestly, if you feel something is right but it isn't, don't say it.
[08:09:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Misconfigured device - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:04] <exec> 08└─Just sayin' is officially passe. Just sayin'.
[08:09:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Misconfigured device - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:09] <exec> 08└─Ah, "just sayin'" - when you realise don't have a very strong point but you decide to throw that in to try and impress the personal importance of your opinion on someone else. Honestly, if you feel something is right but it isn't, don't say it.
[08:09:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedBear [1734] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Misconfigured device - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:11] <exec> 08└─Some people are jerks, this is not new. She configures her phone to accept pictures from anyone, and some anonymous jerk sends her an unpleasant pic. The only person she has to blame is herself. Not sure why depositing the pic should be criminal. Is it criminal if I tape a page from Hustler to someo...
[08:09:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Misconfigured device - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:13] <exec> 08└─Did I say that I agree that such things should necessarily be criminal offenses? Don't make assumptions.
[08:09:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Misconfigured device - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 857 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:14] <exec> 08└─How would you like it if you were sat on public transport reading things on your phone quite innocently and some pr0n suddenly appeared? In public, in front of people? Look at the perv surfing for pr0n in public! From TFA: "The BTP has investigated the incident, but said because Ms Crighton-Smith di...
[08:09:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Misconfigured device - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:16] <exec> 08└─Ah but they are wrong - she did accept it. By having it turned on, and understanding that it was turned on, she accepted it.
[08:09:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Misconfigured device - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:18] <exec> 08└─How would you like it if you were sat on public transport reading things on your phone quite innocently and some pr0n suddenly appeared? In public, in front of people?
[08:09:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:3, Interesting) 02There's an ex-pornographer I'd vote for - 06Wikipedia's Jimbo Wales Joins Lawrence Lessig Presidential Campaign - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:09:20] <exec> 08└─A Lessig/Wales ticket would be really interesting. I'd love to see how Wales' past would play on a national stage.
[08:09:21] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Funding is not unique - 06Wikipedia's Jimbo Wales Joins Lawrence Lessig Presidential Campaign - 373 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:09:22] <exec> 08└─"He's crowdfunding his campaign instead of seeking out rich donors. He's showing people that we can change the rigged political system." So is Bernie Sanders [cnn.com], by all indications: 99% of his donors have put less than $250 into his campaign, and his average donation is $33.51. And Sanders ve...
[08:09:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Funding is not unique - 06Wikipedia's Jimbo Wales Joins Lawrence Lessig Presidential Campaign - 437 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:24] <exec> 08└─Well, nominally speaking, SuperPACs aren't by the candidates. They're legally supposed to be at an arm's length, with neither giving direction to the other. They're supposed to be issue organizations that happen to like certain candidates. That's the idea. The one that lead the supreme court to appr...
[08:09:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Funding is not unique - 06Wikipedia's Jimbo Wales Joins Lawrence Lessig Presidential Campaign - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:31] <exec> 08└─The difference between that theory and practice was best explained by Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert [npr.org] when they were totally not coordinating with each other on national TV.
[08:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Nader 2000 - 06Wikipedia's Jimbo Wales Joins Lawrence Lessig Presidential Campaign - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:09:37] <exec> 08└─Even though Ralph lost, it was worth it, to send the two parties a message. That worked out real well, didn't it?
[08:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nader 2000 - 06Wikipedia's Jimbo Wales Joins Lawrence Lessig Presidential Campaign - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:42] <exec> 08└─No third party candidates and votes allowed
[08:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nader 2000 - 06Wikipedia's Jimbo Wales Joins Lawrence Lessig Presidential Campaign - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:44] <exec> 08└─We'll see what happens if Lessig gets support. He might pull a Ralph. If he doesn't, no harm no foul.
[08:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02Re:Nader 2000 - 06Wikipedia's Jimbo Wales Joins Lawrence Lessig Presidential Campaign - 556 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:46] <exec> 08└─Depends what state you live in. I live in Arizona, so my vote towards a major party is worthless - the only election in the last 50 years to go to the Democrats was Bill's reelection. I will support the third party that most closely aligns with my personal views to increase their visibility on the m...
[08:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Nader 2000 - 06Wikipedia's Jimbo Wales Joins Lawrence Lessig Presidential Campaign - 713 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:48] <exec> 08└─It also depends on which race you are talking about. For example, I'm an Ohio voter for whom: - Votes for president, governor, and senator matter a great deal. - Votes for representative don't matter at all because I'm in a packed district with a decent-enough incumbent where they tried to cram in a...
[08:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nader 2000 - 06Wikipedia's Jimbo Wales Joins Lawrence Lessig Presidential Campaign - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:49] <exec> 08└─I thought in Ohio your ballot-less elections are "delivered" [columbusfreepress.com] to the Repubs.
[08:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Nader 2000 - 06Wikipedia's Jimbo Wales Joins Lawrence Lessig Presidential Campaign - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:51] <exec> 08└─Now if you live in Ohio, by all means, please vote for a major party. You are one of the few people in the nation that gets to decide the future of the country!
[08:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Nader 2000 - 06Wikipedia's Jimbo Wales Joins Lawrence Lessig Presidential Campaign - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:53] <exec> 08└─Now if you live in Ohio, by all means, please vote for a major party.
[08:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nader 2000 - 06Wikipedia's Jimbo Wales Joins Lawrence Lessig Presidential Campaign - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:55] <exec> 08└─Even though Ralph lost, it was worth it, to send the two parties a message. That worked out real well, didn't it?
[08:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Jimbo has always reminded me of a Futurama quote - 06Wikipedia's Jimbo Wales Joins Lawrence Lessig Presidential Campaign - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:09:59] <exec> 08└─"I have no strong feelings one way or the other."
[08:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03halcyon1234 [1082] (Score:3, Funny) 02President Wales - 06Wikipedia's Jimbo Wales Joins Lawrence Lessig Presidential Campaign - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:10:05] <exec> 08└─He'll combine the State of the Union address and the budget announcement together into "A personal appear from President Jimmy Wales..."
[08:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Interesting) 02#Gamergate - 06Wikipedia's Jimbo Wales Joins Lawrence Lessig Presidential Campaign - 525 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:10:11] <exec> 08└─Both Wikipedia and the Berkman Center that Lessig runs are implicated in the coverup of the Gamergate corruption scandal. Wales personally ordered Wikia to delete a page listing misconduct by Wikipedia administrators during the Gamergate ArbCom. Berkman has been promoting Zoe Quinn and Randi Harper...
[08:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:#Gamergate - 06Wikipedia's Jimbo Wales Joins Lawrence Lessig Presidential Campaign - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:15] <exec> 08└─lol you guys are so sad it's funny
[08:10:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:1) 02Re:#Gamergate - 06Wikipedia's Jimbo Wales Joins Lawrence Lessig Presidential Campaign - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:17] <exec> 08└─You're right. Gamergate figureheads getting bomb threats while meeting with the Society of Professional Journalists (who formally acknowledged that GG's complaints were valid, that they aren't a hate group, etc.) is "so funny it's sad." http://www.upi.com
[08:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:#Gamergate - 06Wikipedia's Jimbo Wales Joins Lawrence Lessig Presidential Campaign - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:19] <exec> 08└─(1) Citing a UPI article is pretty sad, they are a joke, owned by the moonies. [theguardian.com] (2) Those 'threats' were already covered here on soylent [soylentnews.org] - at best a joke, at worse a sad "false flag" by 8chan types. So congrats on unintentionally proving the premise you were trying...
[08:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:#Gamergate - 06Wikipedia's Jimbo Wales Joins Lawrence Lessig Presidential Campaign - 322 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:21] <exec> 08└─I just find it funny how when specific people receive any kind of negative attention it is automatically Gamergates fault but when shit's flying the other way it's all third party trolls and false flags. This "sad" group has cost Gawker around seven figures by their own admission. Not bad, aye? Also...
[08:10:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:#Gamergate - 06Wikipedia's Jimbo Wales Joins Lawrence Lessig Presidential Campaign - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:23] <exec> 08└─I just find it funny how when specific people receive any kind of negative attention it is automatically Gamergates fault but when shit's flying the other way it's all third party trolls and false flags.
[08:10:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:#Gamergate - 06Wikipedia's Jimbo Wales Joins Lawrence Lessig Presidential Campaign - 1593 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:25] <exec> 08└─You're right about third party trolls claiming responsibility for the bomb threats, I just find it amusing that no one can seem to admit that it goes the other way too. Brianna Wu got caught doing it to herself when she forgot to log out of her Steam developer account and no one cares. I'd first lik...
[08:10:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:#Gamergate - 06Wikipedia's Jimbo Wales Joins Lawrence Lessig Presidential Campaign - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:27] <exec> 08└─When you throw a number out that is THREE ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE OFF, that's not an "oops, I got the number a little wrong." That's an "ok, I really don't know shit about the topic" statement.
[08:10:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:#Gamergate - 06Wikipedia's Jimbo Wales Joins Lawrence Lessig Presidential Campaign - 461 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:31] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure who you consider to be run by moonies but you can take your pick of the articles from google then. I may have gotten who printed it wrong but the phrase "seven figures" from a senior Gawker figure has been definitely been put out around the net. https://www.google.com
[08:10:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:1) 02Re:#Gamergate - 06Wikipedia's Jimbo Wales Joins Lawrence Lessig Presidential Campaign - 720 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:37] <exec> 08└─1 - The site reporting on an issue has nothing to do with the reality that the event occurred. Your critique is irrelevant to the point being illustrated. Great to see that you want your opinions to be taken seriously, but that you are incapable of responding to specific points being made in a discu...
[08:10:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Totally cool - new blood - 06Wikipedia's Jimbo Wales Joins Lawrence Lessig Presidential Campaign - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:10:43] <exec> 08└─It would be totally cool if the US voters were fed up with the existing political elite. If the D's would nominate Lessig, and the Rs would choose Trump, it might just be the beginnings of some real change. Unfortunately, I think most US voters are tied to their party traditions, unable to see how c...
[08:10:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Totally cool - new blood - 06Wikipedia's Jimbo Wales Joins Lawrence Lessig Presidential Campaign - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:49] <exec> 08└─At least Trump is leading his side of the field. He is not afraid to admit that money influences politics and said as much on the debate stage.
[08:10:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Totally cool - new blood - 06Wikipedia's Jimbo Wales Joins Lawrence Lessig Presidential Campaign - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:52] <exec> 08└─> He is not afraid to admit that money influences politics and said as much on the debate stage. The problem is that he bragged about it. That's about the worst possible way for any candidate to 'admit' it.
[08:10:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Totally cool - new blood - 06Wikipedia's Jimbo Wales Joins Lawrence Lessig Presidential Campaign - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:54] <exec> 08└─You'd think Americans would be more wary about having the same families appearing constantly in their government. How long until one of them goes full Caesar?
[08:10:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Computational tool as a lure? - 06Postdoc Designs Computational Tool, Nets Tenfold Increase in Number of Sequenced Virus Genomes - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:10:56] <exec> 08└─In what sense was the computational tool a lure?
[08:10:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Computational tool as a lure? - 06Postdoc Designs Computational Tool, Nets Tenfold Increase in Number of Sequenced Virus Genomes - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:58] <exec> 08└─In no way. They just really wanted to use the terms "lure", "nets" and "fishing expedition".
[08:10:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Computational tool as a lure? - 06Postdoc Designs Computational Tool, Nets Tenfold Increase in Number of Sequenced Virus Genomes - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:00] <exec> 08└─What else would you do to the data ocean? I'm not sure the people writing this stuff are familiar with previous uses of this analogy: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[08:11:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Elife - 06Postdoc Designs Computational Tool, Nets Tenfold Increase in Number of Sequenced Virus Genomes - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:11:02] <exec> 08└─Anyone know publication fees for elife?
[08:11:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03eof [5559] (Score:1) 02Re:Elife - 06Postdoc Designs Computational Tool, Nets Tenfold Increase in Number of Sequenced Virus Genomes - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:03] <exec> 08└─According to their "About" page (last sentence under "Reach–Get Great Exposure): eLife articles are immediately and freely available to the world – and there’s no cost to publish.
[08:11:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Elife - 06Postdoc Designs Computational Tool, Nets Tenfold Increase in Number of Sequenced Virus Genomes - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:09] <exec> 08└─So where is the funding coming from?
[08:11:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02correct link - 06Postdoc Designs Computational Tool, Nets Tenfold Increase in Number of Sequenced Virus Genomes - 428 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:11:11] <exec> 08└─I was rather confused when I was unable to find a formatted version of this paper. The submission links to the early publication, instead look here: http://elifesciences.org [elifesciences.org] This was my first contact with an elife paper, althouh I have been aware of thier editor'...
[08:11:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Stop screwing around! - 06Postdoc Designs Computational Tool, Nets Tenfold Increase in Number of Sequenced Virus Genomes - 512 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:11:13] <exec> 08└─They'll keep poking, and searching, and when they get deep enough, they will discover that we owe our intelligence to viruses. That's right, those of us who have no prophages find themselves riding the short busses to school! I can hear it now. "Professor, it seems we all have these viruses. What ca...
[08:11:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03zugedneb [4556] (Score:2) 02let me fix this... and also, UNBELIEVABLE!!1!!1! - 06Postdoc Designs Computational Tool, Nets Tenfold Increase in Number of Sequenced Virus Genomes - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:11:17] <exec> 08└─...16 year old prodigy invents (- wording very important here) computational tool for previously overlooked field in genetics... Experts weep, kowtow, kiss his feet... And now to the UNBELIEVABLE! Someone used the "design" word instead of the "invent" word... WTF? Mod me troll, but is the second com...
[08:11:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:let me fix this... and also, UNBELIEVABLE!!1!!1 - 06Postdoc Designs Computational Tool, Nets Tenfold Increase in Number of Sequenced Virus Genomes - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:23] <exec> 08└─This article is bunk. It's not overlooked. It's taught in introductory microbiology courses. I have a microbiology book that covers them and their potential benefits.
[08:11:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Err what? - 06Postdoc Designs Computational Tool, Nets Tenfold Increase in Number of Sequenced Virus Genomes - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:11:28] <exec> 08└─So someone wrote a Python script to download data from databases? I try not to downplay others' achievements, but literally a non-genius 15-year-old could do that.
[08:11:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Lucky she wasn't shot - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:11:30] <exec> 08└─in the face, decapitated, dismembered, and fed to the dogs.
[08:11:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Re:Lucky she wasn't shot - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:32] <exec> 08└─Because she wasn't a "brother"
[08:11:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Cops acted stupidly - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:11:34] <exec> 08└─Obama should fix this immediately!
[08:11:35] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Moor legacy, I s'ppose - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 1428 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:11:36] <exec> 08└─In other part of the world you get jailed [abc.net.au] and your govt won't provide consular assistance: In February, Jodi Magi, 39, took a photo of a car in her Abu Dhabi apartment block that was parked across two disabled parking spaces, without any disability stickers. She blacked out the number p...
[08:11:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Re:Moor legacy, I s'ppose - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:38] <exec> 08└─Yes, its definitely the moorish influence. Because whitey is immune to the fascist impulse. God, you racists are such fucking idiots.
[08:11:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Moor legacy, I s'ppose - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:42] <exec> 08└─Because whitey is immune to the fascist impulse.
[08:11:45] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] 02Re:Moor legacy, I s'ppose - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 46 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:46] <exec> 08└─I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition!
[08:11:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Spam) 02Re:Moor legacy, I s'ppose - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:51] <exec> 08└─Are you retarded?
[08:11:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Moor legacy, I s'ppose - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:57] <exec> 08└─Not retarded, apparently bigoted.
[08:12:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Moor legacy, I s'ppose - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:01] <exec> 08└─" Australian embassy in Abu Dhabi has not provided any help or advice apart from recommending she get a lawyer." Yes, that is what embassies do. Seriously what the fuck? People watch too many movies if they expect their embassy to take any interest in them whatsoever.
[08:12:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:Moor legacy, I s'ppose - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 1457 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:03] <exec> 08└─There's a lot of misunderstanding of what the embassy is supposed to do. They're there to give advice and to handle paper work. If you get in trouble with the law they may or may not be of any help at all depending upon the country and they're not likely to do much more than suggest that you get a l...
[08:12:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Moor legacy, I s'ppose - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:05] <exec> 08└─I'm curious about why somebody in her apartment block felt the need to narc her out.
[08:12:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Moor legacy, I s'ppose - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:07] <exec> 08└─Most probably it was the offender who felt offended, Highly probable his car was recognizable even with the plate blacked out, at least by the people in the neighbourhood.
[08:12:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Moor legacy, I s'ppose - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:09] <exec> 08└─Woman speaking up in an Islamic land and a foreigner. Seems obvious in hindsight.
[08:12:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Moor legacy, I s'ppose - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 581 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:11] <exec> 08└─That definitely sucks. FWIW, she still shouldn't have signed the documents. I've spent a bit of time in the Middle East, always nervously: You are in countries where there is no rule of law. The government and its agents can do whatever they want to do, and by going there you accept this. I last vis...
[08:12:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Moor legacy, I s'ppose - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:13] <exec> 08└─You are in countries where there is no rule of law.
[08:12:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Neofascism in Europe - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:12:14] <exec> 08└─is rearing its ugly head. If anything the woman should receive a medal. The cops though might or might not have had a good reason for their wild parking.
[08:12:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02the law that backfires - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:12:21] <exec> 08└─a controversial new gagging law in the the country that prohibits 'the unauthorised use of images of police officers that might jeopardise their or their family's safety or that of protected facilities or police operations.'
[08:12:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the law that backfires - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:27] <exec> 08└─Oh, not again. Is Felipe going to have to put down an insurrection?
[08:12:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:the law that backfires - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 455 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:33] <exec> 08└─Thank you for addressing the fining of the woman for posting a photo. Everyone else seems to be obsessing about police officers parking, which is almost irrelevant. If the police officers were doing their public duty, then there should be no problem with the public photographing them. And simple fre...
[08:12:36] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03lentilla [1770] 02the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 1070 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:12:38] <exec> 08└─To play devil's advocate here: whether or not the police acted irresponsibly rather depends on what they were doing at the time. Apply the "doughnut test": did they return with a bad guy in cuffs, grumbling about paperwork, or did they return with two dozen doughy treats (or whatever the Spanish equ...
[08:12:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:42] <exec> 08└─> To play devil's advocate here: whether or not the police acted irresponsibly rather depends on what they were doing at the time. That's irrelevant to the point that the police filed a complaint against the woman that resulted in her being fined $800 for posting a photograph of their car. That is i...
[08:12:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:48] <exec> 08└─If they were in the middle of a raid or something, the picture being posted to the Internet could have conceivably tipped off the target. Slim chance, but it could happen. Not that that was the excuse they used.
[08:12:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:50] <exec> 08└─To play devil's advocate here
[08:12:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:51] <exec> 08└─Sorry, but the Constitution says your freedom of speech is not absolute. Freedom of ideology, religion and worship is guaranteed, to individuals and communities with no other restriction on their expression than may be necessary to maintain public order as protected by law.
[08:12:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:53] <exec> 08└─So posting an image of a wrong-parked police car is going to destroy public order?
[08:12:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:55] <exec> 08└─> Sorry, but the Constitution says your freedom of speech is not absolute. (1) OP said it was fundamental, not absolute. (2) The constitution is not above criticism
[08:12:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:59] <exec> 08└─And if I were to tell you to suck a sack of nigger cocks, I will get modded down, even though my comment is fundamentally hypothetical.
[08:13:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:05] <exec> 08└─Sure you will get modded down. But you will not get fined.
[08:13:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Translation Error [718] (Score:2) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:11] <exec> 08└─Anonymous Coward, you are fined one credit for a violation of the Verbal Morality Statute.
[08:13:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:17] <exec> 08└─(2) The constitution is not above criticism
[08:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:19] <exec> 08└─The constitution of the US is hardly relevant in Spain. Is that the Constitution you're talking about?
[08:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:21] <exec> 08└─Other countries, including Spain, have constitutions too.
[08:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:23] <exec> 08└─No they don't, not anything worth a damn atmuch.
[08:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:25] <exec> 08└─> The constitution of the US is hardly relevant in Spain. Is that the Constitution you're talking about? He quoted the constitution he was citing. Is it too much to ask that you google the quote to verify where it came from before accusing him of being stupid? Here's a hint, that quote does not exis...
[08:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:27] <exec> 08└─Oh no he didn't! Hey dipshit, is it too much for YOU to practice what you preach and verify the quote [soylentnews.org] before you chastise someone else about it? It's better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than it is to open it and prove them right.
[08:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:29] <exec> 08└─You're quoting the wrong document. From the actual constitution [congreso.es] in effect in this story, article 20.1a expresses something equivalent... ...but that's modified by 20.4, which points back to article 10.1 on fundamental duties: "...respect for the law...". So the Constitution you used is...
[08:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:31] <exec> 08└─Also relevant in Spain is the EU Convention on Human Rights [coe.int], which is a lot more like the US Bill of Rights than many of the European constitutions. If you're travelling to Europe, it's worth familiarizing yourself with it just in case - and obviously, Wheaton's Law still applies.
[08:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:37] <exec> 08└─>Sorry, but the Constitution says your freedom of speech is not absolute. What Constitution? We're talking about Spain here. Does Spain even have a Constitution? Does Spain protect freedom of speech?
[08:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:43] <exec> 08└─https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-press/2011/spain#.VdNjOpfNLeg/ [freedomhouse.org] In fact it turns out that they do have Freedom of Speech. I'm sure it isn't exactly like the US, but they do have it.
[08:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:49] <exec> 08└─The law is not above criticism. It's against the law to speak out against the government in a number of countries, but people should oppose such restrictions. Likewise, forbidding people to post photos of cops is insane.
[08:13:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 1107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:53] <exec> 08└─Also I disagree that the course of what they were doing is relevant to what they did. If we take up the position that police time is invaluable, having them waste time looking for parking regardless of what they are doing is wasteful. I rather they have more time with which to respond to an emergenc...
[08:13:54] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03moondrake [2658] 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 2264 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:55] <exec> 08└─No. This is not the way to organize things. If you are going to allow police officers to park in the middle of the street just because they want to buy a coffee and are too important the walk 100 m more to a parking-lot, then how about a doctor. What when he is off-duty but could get a call? What ab...
[08:13:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 1626 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:57] <exec> 08└─Well you make mighty big assumptions in your response. I will admit that I am not familiar with the law in Spain, but you make no such claim either. So if their law does specifically say that they can park wherever they want to, does it make difference to your argument? That was merely the point I h...
[08:13:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:59] <exec> 08└─> And in regards to the doctor claim, yes in fact doctor's time is more valuable than yours. You get that distinct feeling every time you go to one and wait 30 minutes to see him for 5 minutes. Whenever someone thinks a non sequitur is relevant to their point, you know they have a very poor grasp of...
[08:14:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jiro [3176] (Score:2) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:01] <exec> 08└─You think police should not even endure time-sinks. That means they get to jump queues at the donut and coffee place as well
[08:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:02] <exec> 08└─Have you ever been stopped by the police for speeding? I have. Yep, I was going too fast. I told 'em that there was somewhere I had to be fast and it was really important. Yep, the cop took an extra few minutes and gave me a ticket. Have you ever gotten a ticket for illegal parking. I have. F**kers...
[08:14:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 1217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:04] <exec> 08└─I have a similar story from years ago in a small EU country. We were having a party with friends during national mid-summer festival and since I never drink my friends asked me to drive them to a shop to buy more beer, etc. Police stops us. "We have to take your driving licence because you are drivi...
[08:14:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:10] <exec> 08└─Yep, police are bastards regardless of their country of origin.
[08:14:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03iwoloschin [3863] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 710 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:17] <exec> 08└─So I occasionally run into police cars parking in the bicycle lanes in Cambridge and Somerville, MA. If the car has it's emergency lights on, I assume there's an emergency and give them space, even if it means merging in with car traffic. If it's just sitting there, no emergency lights on, I *always...
[08:14:20] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 154 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:21] <exec> 08└─I *always* stop and ask the officer to either move or put their emergency lights on since they are currently creating a confusion and unexpected situation
[08:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 1991 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:26] <exec> 08└─Since white privilege exists (very likely not to the extent some claim) what is wrong with using that to advance the cause of freedom for everyone. I know that since I am a professional reasonably well educated white guy I can be a thorn is the government's side at times without much of any repercus...
[08:14:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:29] <exec> 08└─I keep a little pocket USB audio recorder in my pocket for cases like this (about $25). I assume that not pointing a camera at security/enforcement will be somewhat less confrontational (and one less thing to pay attention about aiming). My state requires that only one party to be aware of a recordi...
[08:14:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 595 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:31] <exec> 08└─> Since white privilege exists (very likely not to the extent some claim) what is wrong with using that to advance the cause of freedom for everyone. That's not how white privilege works. White privilege refers to the normal state - the level and type of treatment that everyone should receive. The p...
[08:14:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:32] <exec> 08└─What is normal is by definition not a privilege. Whatever reasoning that has been used to define being treated normally as white privilege should be thrown out and redone- or just admit that the whole thing is absurd and behave like a rational human being.
[08:14:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:34] <exec> 08└─What is normal is by definition not a privilege.
[08:14:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:36] <exec> 08└─I understood the GP's point to be that it is not a privilege because it is meant to be the standard by which everyone is addressed, therefore to call it white privilege is inaccurate and it should be called by its other name: racism. Because that is what it is when you persecute someone based on the...
[08:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03iwoloschin [3863] (Score:2) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 737 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:38] <exec> 08└─Nope. But why not take advantage of that? My primary goal here is safety of all road users, and in particular me and my fellow cyclists. If I can *politely* request a police officer act in a safer manner you'd better believe I'm going to go out of my way to make that request. Doubly so if I think ot...
[08:14:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:44] <exec> 08└─I took a picture of the Scofflaw Patrol car double-parked in a bike lane in front of a 7-11 in Brooklyn. I sent it into the precinct and posted it on the neighborhood blog (incredibly active and activist neighborhood). Those guys don't work there anymore.
[08:14:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:1, Offtopic) 02What language is this? - 06Toshiba Brings Through-Silicon Vias to NAND Flash - 1119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:14:51] <exec> 08└─"flash die" - if that is being used as a plural, does that mean that "flash dice" must be the singular? How many sides does a flash dice have? "scale NAND capacity in the vertical dimension" - NAND capacity is either dimensionless (a raw number), or has the pseudo-dimension "bits" (compare "moles")....
[08:14:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:What language is this? - 06Toshiba Brings Through-Silicon Vias to NAND Flash - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:57] <exec> 08└─die n. a device for cutting or molding metal into a particular shape As for the rest, you'll have to synergise your blue-sky thinking to see that they've leveraged a whole new paradigm when it comes to enveloping the rhinoceros sandwich.
[08:15:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:What language is this? - 06Toshiba Brings Through-Silicon Vias to NAND Flash - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:15:01] <exec> 08└─Your "die" has plural "dies", though. However, you're right, I'll start synergising rhinoceros 2.0, don't forget 2.0, erm, beta, right away.
[08:15:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:What language is this? - 06Toshiba Brings Through-Silicon Vias to NAND Flash - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:15:02] <exec> 08└─Yeah, yeah, that's not even the right definition of die for the context...
[08:15:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:What language is this? - 06Toshiba Brings Through-Silicon Vias to NAND Flash - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:15:04] <exec> 08└─In this case they are talking about the actual chip / die. https://learn.sparkfun.com [sparkfun.com] Interesting read that tells you what they mean by the word "die" in this context.
[08:15:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:What language is this? - 06Toshiba Brings Through-Silicon Vias to NAND Flash - 921 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:15:06] <exec> 08└─My question would be...other than enterprise data cruncher workstations and servers who is gonna need this? Because I've found a standard SSD on SATA already goes faster than the average user can and its a hell of a lot cheaper. I recently upgraded the wife's PC with an SSD and even with her Phenom...
[08:15:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What language is this? - 06Toshiba Brings Through-Silicon Vias to NAND Flash - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:15:08] <exec> 08└─Yes, because enterprise technology never makes its way down to consumer products.
[08:15:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:What language is this? - 06Toshiba Brings Through-Silicon Vias to NAND Flash - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:15:10] <exec> 08└─Never underestimate the amount of bloat that can be added in order to make blindingly fast technology slow.
[08:15:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:What language is this? - 06Toshiba Brings Through-Silicon Vias to NAND Flash - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:15:12] <exec> 08└─I've got another story about NAND coming for you later. Here is a sneak preview: https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org] http://www.theplatform.net [theplatform.net]
[08:15:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:What language is this? - 06Toshiba Brings Through-Silicon Vias to NAND Flash - 1329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:15:18] <exec> 08└─This is one area where I have to call BS, as the size of data from camera and video just keeps growing and growing at a pace that the SSDs just don't match, at least not at a price point Joe Average will pay. The way my customers have been going is the way I think computers will be going, with an SS...
[08:15:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What the... - 06Toshiba Brings Through-Silicon Vias to NAND Flash - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:15:24] <exec> 08└─What's "vias"?
[08:15:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:What the... - 06Toshiba Brings Through-Silicon Vias to NAND Flash - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:15:30] <exec> 08└─I'm wondering if that's a serious question, but anyway: https://en.wikipedia.org(electronics)/ [wikipedia.org]
[08:15:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What the... - 06Toshiba Brings Through-Silicon Vias to NAND Flash - 387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:15:34] <exec> 08└─That link does not work. This does. https://en.wikipedia.org(electronics) [wikipedia.org] But basically they punch a hole in the die and run a 'wire' thru it usually using coating the hole itself to create the 'wire'. It is just a vertical bus in this case. It is a way to move from one lay...
[08:15:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Re:What the... - 06Toshiba Brings Through-Silicon Vias to NAND Flash - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:15:35] <exec> 08└─Ah, I shouldn't have added that slash then.
[08:15:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:What the... - 06Toshiba Brings Through-Silicon Vias to NAND Flash - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:15:37] <exec> 08└─It can be plural: https://www.google.com [google.com]
[08:15:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Insightful) 02The previous generation - 06Robot Weapons: What’s the Harm? - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:15:39] <exec> 08└─The previous generation of autonomous weapons have already been outlawed. They were called land mines. A.I.-based weapons, in contrast, offer the possibility of selectively sparing the lives of noncombatants
[08:15:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:The previous generation - 06Robot Weapons: What’s the Harm? - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:15:41] <exec> 08└─Yeah but when you have stuff like that they can hack it and turn it against you. Didn't you watch Solid Snake 4 on Youtube? Good movie.
[08:15:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Touché) 02Re:The previous generation - 06Robot Weapons: What’s the Harm? - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:15:43] <exec> 08└─Dude! Nobody fucking remembers what a landmine is. War is Good. War kills Bad Guys. If you diss us for killing Bad Guys, that makes you a Bad Guy. Greets from Prez Bama! You gonna get fucked up, Bad Guy!
[08:15:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:The previous generation - 06Robot Weapons: What’s the Harm? - 793 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:15:45] <exec> 08└─There is a new generation of automated weapons in use: automated [as in, not directly human controlled] machine guns on the North/South Korean border [on the South side]. And given that there is no effective way to tell at any distance the difference between a 'combatant' and a 'noncombatant', I gue...
[08:15:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:The previous generation - 06Robot Weapons: What’s the Harm? - 1076 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:15:47] <exec> 08└─Pretty much. And just look at the mess that mines did, those are still killing and maiming people every year even though they've been banned by most countries. An automated gun that's mounted is a bit better, as in you know where they are, but allowing them to move about and make their own decisions...
[08:15:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03VanderDecken [5216] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Bad on both fronts - 06Robot Weapons: What’s the Harm? - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:15:53] <exec> 08└─As both a soldier and a computing scientist, autonomous weapon systems scare the shit out of me. There are so many ways this can go wrong it's not even funny. If lives are to be taken, let's make it a conscious decision of someone willing to live with the consequences and not the "oops" of someone t...
[08:15:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:Bad on both fronts - 06Robot Weapons: What’s the Harm? - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:15:58] <exec> 08└─Both can and do happen at once. Reminds me of the story my Gramma used to tell me -- she lit her hair on fire during a horrible cigarette accident back when it was fashionable to smoke. She was lucky enough to live on base housing on a B-29 base, and since the B-29 was new at the time the base had v...
[08:15:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Bad on both fronts - 06Robot Weapons: What’s the Harm? - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:16:00] <exec> 08└─> If lives are to be taken, let's make it a conscious decision of someone willing to live with the consequences The more we take the human out of the loop, the lower the threshold for killing becomes. Full automation just makes it easier to shrug off moral responsibility for slaughtering people.
[08:16:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03NezSez [961] (Score:1) 02Re:Bad on both fronts - 06Robot Weapons: What’s the Harm? - 3115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
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[08:20:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:user base growth follows population growth - 06Twitter Flunks Examination as University Endowments Dump Stock - 471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:11] <exec> 08└─One assumes twitter's population will have the same curve as myspace's. It starts out looking like the logistic distribution (which starts out looking exponential), or the malthusian "S", but eventually turns into a malthusian "J". I'd really like to see some real world stats on active user-base for...
[08:22:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Two Things... - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:14] <exec> 08└─Ah, I see: They put the surrounding of the urinal under voltage, thus making people to aim well out of self-interest. ;-)
[08:22:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score:2) 02Re:Cloud - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 666 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:46] <exec> 08└─I was also thinking of things like Microsoft's OneDrive. Their web apps push people to save files directly to it rather than downloading them. I know more storage won't really put an end to the cloud. I just wish it would because I don't like big businesses getting their hands on people's data (and...
[08:23:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Legalize It - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:32] <exec> 08└─No, you can't.
[08:25:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:Privacy issue? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:25:53] <exec> 08└─I don't think AirDrop was designed or intended to be used to sending unsolicited dick pics. Flashing is the correct analogy. For reasons too complex to get in to our society sees unexpectedly revealing your genitals to another human being in public to be unacceptable. This is no different, other tha...
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[09:05:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02gimme Free Shit - 06FCC Says Convention Centers Can't Block Your Wi-Fi Hotspot - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:05:46] <exec> 08└─Finally the FCC does something I agree with! Now gimme FREE WI-FI everywhere, because I'm worth it, and don't be raising my fucking taxes. Just gimmmme. Gimme gimme gimme.
[09:05:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:gimme Free Shit - 06FCC Says Convention Centers Can't Block Your Wi-Fi Hotspot - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:05:47] <exec> 08└─I don't know what you've been taking and i don't want any.
[09:05:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:gimme Free Shit - 06FCC Says Convention Centers Can't Block Your Wi-Fi Hotspot - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:05:48] <exec> 08└─Freedom, man, I'm high on Freedom! This is the Land of the Free, and 200 MB free from NetZero isn't enough, and 500 MB free from FreedomPop isn't enough! No way I'm paying for Internet access!
[09:05:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:gimme Free Shit - 06FCC Says Convention Centers Can't Block Your Wi-Fi Hotspot - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:05:50] <exec> 08└─So how do you go from "I'll fuck you over to the tune of $80 a day and block your own paid Wi Fi subscription because I can" to "I deserve free shit"? People are gladly paying for their own Wi Fi plans. The problem here is a third party is blocking them.
[09:06:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:user base growth follows population growth - 06Twitter Flunks Examination as University Endowments Dump Stock - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:06:01] <exec> 08└─Doesn't your XKCD hero Randall have a special hatred of Friendster for some inane reason.
[09:07:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03hankwang [100] (Score:2) 02Re:cyanogen? - 06Botched Google Stagefright Fix Won't be Resolved Until September - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:07:43] <exec> 08└─My phone with CM11 (with Android 4.4.4) is vulnerable according to the Stagefright Detector app. https://play.google.com [google.com]
[09:08:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score:2) 02Re:Cloud - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:08:40] <exec> 08└─Now that's a legitimate use of it. The only way around that is if the company ever gets big enough and decides it's cost effect enough to bring the tech in house.
[09:14:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondrake [2658] (Score:2) 02Re:the doughnut test - 06Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:14:28] <exec> 08└─Touché. Still...Even when it only concerns parking, I do not think its a very workable situation. In larger cities, there is just too many people who's work, occasionally (most police-officers are doing boring things most of the time) is very important. Letting them park wherever and whenever they...
[09:16:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Such Optimism! - 06The Next Android Now Has a Name: Marshmallow - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:16:15] <exec> 08└─That, in a nutshell, is the one big complaint I have about Android. The average user has no way whatsoever to upgrade their system* regardless of how many security holes might exist. (*I mean that the vast majority of Android users are never going to root their phone, much less download and install...
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[10:06:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Send a bouquet to ISIS - 06World's "First Flower" May Have Bloomed Underwater - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:06:32] <exec> 08└─A bouquet of drone strikes!
[10:06:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Predicting next week's headlines... - 06World's "First Flower" May Have Bloomed Underwater - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:06:33] <exec> 08└─China discovers fossil of 135-million-year-old flowering plant. Finding a new fossile might be bit too much work for the scientists, so perhaps it will read: New more accurate dating technique places first flower 135-million years ago.
[10:06:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Aaaaarrrghhhh! Don't google coontails - 06World's "First Flower" May Have Bloomed Underwater - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:06:35] <exec> 08└─Knowing fuck-all about botany, I googled: http://www.google.ee What I've now learnt is that these prehistoric plants look like attention-seeking twats who spend more effort dicking with their appearance than they do actually doing anything constructive or worthwhile. And they, and...
[10:06:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02google coontail instead - 06World's "First Flower" May Have Bloomed Underwater - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:06:37] <exec> 08└─http://www.google.ee/search?q=coontail [google.ee]
[10:07:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03BasilBrush [3994] (Score:2) 02Re:buzzword intolerance - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:07:21] <exec> 08└─All right, Donald, calm down.
[10:07:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:buzzword intolerance - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:07:22] <exec> 08└─I'll trump you, bitch, dontcha evah tell me to calm down.
[10:07:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03slinches [5049] 02not really about being PC - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 1247 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:07:32] <exec> 08└─This article isn't really about people not liking political correctness. It's about why some people root for Trump when everyone knows he's an intolerable ass. The reason they like him right now is that he's being an intolerable ass to the whole of the political establishment, a pretty much universa...
[10:07:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:not really about being PC - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:07:34] <exec> 08└─I'm particularly miffed when I see the PC "SJW" types use the term PoC(person of colour) constantly. How is that term any different than 'coloured' or 'darky'?
[10:07:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03RedBear [1734] 02Authoritarians - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 2688 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:07:38] <exec> 08└─This seems like a good place to drop a link to Bob Altemeyer's The Authoritarians. http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca [umanitoba.ca] What I loved about this book was that the author was very clear about what his statistical studies showed, and what they DID NOT show. Basically half the book is hi...
[10:07:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Authoritarians - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:07:41] <exec> 08└─Thanks, 'twas the right kick into clicking that link.
[10:07:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Marry girl children. Not "Ashley Madison"s - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:07:43] <exec> 08└─Marry girl children. Not "Ashley Madison"s Can't believe cunts decide anything they do is wonderfun, including adultery. Hans Reiser did nothing wrong. He did the correct thing under the Law of the God of Deuteronomy. I'm happy he killed Nina Reiser. She looked to cuck him, he wasn't having that. Sh...
[10:08:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The other side of the story - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 595 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:08:40] <exec> 08└─Yes, I could, and maybe I even would. Where do I go for the download? This is not a rhethorical question. The best information I've seen so far is that it was released "on the darknet". I realize that a) a search engine probably won't help me and b) going to www.darknet.com will not be useful either...
[10:08:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:root power - 06Botched Google Stagefright Fix Won't be Resolved Until September - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:08:56] <exec> 08└─A good policy is to avoid phones that can't be rooted without exploits. Sure, you can side-load, but they're almost as bad as iOS devices; you don't actually own them.
[10:08:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Unfinished products - 06Botched Google Stagefright Fix Won't be Resolved Until September - 1324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:08:59] <exec> 08└─For the sake of security, privacy and freedom, constant updates will have to go. Work on it and finish it. Then give it to paid testers to test it. Then let customers install this beta version of their own choice. After no complaints are received for six months and all known bugs are fixed (not patc...
[10:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Cloud - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:02] <exec> 08└─Bizarely, some of our clients are happier failing to get three-nines from MS Azure (or whatever it's called now, it still sucks whatever name they give it) than they are having to actually manage the data they're telling their clients they're managing. Whatever, it pays my beertab.
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[11:06:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Moar Explosionz! - 06Chemists Suffer from Chemophobia-Phobia - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:06:31] <exec> 08└─https://youtu.be/PnO4gdar--Y [youtu.be] Chemistry is fukken awesome!
[11:06:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Overgeneralization - 06Chemists Suffer from Chemophobia-Phobia - 913 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:06:32] <exec> 08└─Probably the problem is overgeneralization. Many people are against certain applications of chemistry (for example, non-natural chemical substances in the food, often even restricted to a specific set of substances). Now the easy way to deal with it is to just claim these people have a general chemo...
[11:06:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What is it about botanists? - 06World's "First Flower" May Have Bloomed Underwater - 526 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:06:45] <exec> 08└─"Unlike modern plants with flowers, M. vidalii woiuldn't have petals or nectar-producing parts" you mean "flowers"? "but it did have a single seed -- a telltale characteristic of angiosperms." apart from the angiosperms that have multiple seeds, and the non-angiosperms that have a single seed. It's...
[11:06:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03tomek [3281] (Score:1) 02Are they jamming mobile or WiFi signal? - 06FCC Says Convention Centers Can't Block Your Wi-Fi Hotspot - 433 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:06:59] <exec> 08└─In the later case BT or USB tethering should work just fine and they'd 'only' need to prove that somehow they have right to jam public frequency band. If they jam mobile comms the tethering would be useless and there's possibility to force all conference attendees to use their own "roaming" service...
[11:08:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Tell us where you live - 06Google Unveils Project Sunroof - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:08:03] <exec> 08└─Tell us where you live. We already have your profile, but we don't know your exact home address. Help us out here and point out on this map where you live.
[11:08:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:08:45] <exec> 08└─If you want the state to recognize you're married, there are certain procedures you must follow. If you want some personal marriage, you're to get it. Why can't there be both? But frankly, all of the legal benefits you get with marriage shouldn't be limited to marriage. If all the lawyers, legislat...
[11:08:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 589 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:08:49] <exec> 08└─You're right. Neither party offers anythig to the other in the wedding vows. Likewise, neither party accepts that non-existent offer (don't be fooled by the words "I do", "do" is just legalese jargon that means nothing). Likewise, neither party intents the marriage to be legally binding, that would...
[11:08:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03pkrasimirov [3358] (Score:2) 02Re:Data - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:09:00] <exec> 08└─Thanks for the information. Nowadays divorce basically means "let's split the money and the children". If someone wants a divorce in USA I suppose they get half of the money. But are they still forced to pay ("support") to the ex-partner every month if it was no-fault divorce?
[11:09:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03pkrasimirov [3358] (Score:2) 02Re:Data - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:09:02] <exec> 08└─So it means the chances are 1/37 that some user get busted. That's staggering 2.7% chance! The downside is that 10GB/1M=10k which means the leak may contain the nasty sext messages.
[11:09:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Marry girl children. Not "Ashley Madison"s - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:09:04] <exec> 08└─Marry girl children. Not "Ashley Madison"s Can't believe cunts decide anything they do is wonderfun, including adultery. Hans Reiser did nothing wrong. He did the correct thing under the Law of the God of Deuteronomy. I'm happy he killed Nina Reiser. She looked to cuck him, he wasn't having that. Sh...
[11:09:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03zafiro17 [234] (Score:2) 02The biggest scam of all: it was a sausage party - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 682 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:09:05] <exec> 08└─Surprised no one picked up on the biggest scam of all. We'd already discussed this story once earlier, and my point of view got bludgeoned by the Soylent masses. But did no one see that on the site, 95% of the profiles were men? They were set up! That site made it seem like women and men would both...
[11:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Re:It's the delta v that matters. - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 559 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:09:53] <exec> 08└─Most of the science-fictional space elevators like Clarke's are based on the principle that the centre of mass of the tower is in geosynchronous orbit. Hint: that's not 12 miles, more like 20,000 miles. The counterweight is there to move the centre of mass up without having to make the thing 40,000...
[11:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:you mean besides porn? - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 882 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:09] <exec> 08└─A/V applications like multitrack editing and mastering? Yeah that could use up that much space as you are usually working with WAV files AND it could benefit from the speed because of the large temp files you create and work with. I know that is the reason I doubled the space on my system from 3TB t...
[11:10:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cloud - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 419 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:23] <exec> 08└─Cloud storage was never about capacity (there's only so much that you can send through an average internet connection in a certain time). Rather it's about availability (you can access the data from your main computer as easily as from your tablet or your phone). Not that there wouldn't be other sol...
[11:11:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03hankwang [100] (Score:2) 02Re:Legalize It - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:11:14] <exec> 08└─It's about the fundamental right to control your own body.
[11:11:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Legalize It - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:11:15] <exec> 08└─It's not that simple IMO. Who pays for the health care of someone who does severe drug abuse?
[11:14:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Misconfigured device - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 1017 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:34] <exec> 08└─I don't think that line of reasoning applies in this case. There are good reasons why there are special times and places for all the nudity and sexual behaviour. Going about your lawful business in public is not one of them. I suppose when I was younger, single, and desperate I'd have though it woul...
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[12:06:27] <exec> 08└─Another navel-gazing sop story.
[12:06:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Another one - 06Chemists Suffer from Chemophobia-Phobia - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:06:33] <exec> 08└─Let's have another sop story about the Year of Linux on the Desktop. You love those. Linux!
[12:06:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What is it about botanists? - 06World's "First Flower" May Have Bloomed Underwater - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:06:43] <exec> 08└─Derp we need to get teh eggheads out of the science. If ya catch it like a fish, and ya cook it like a fish, and it tastes like a fish, it's a fish. Derp.
[12:06:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Are they jamming mobile or WiFi signal? - 06FCC Says Convention Centers Can't Block Your Wi-Fi Hotspot - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:06:57] <exec> 08└─If they jam anything that can dial 911, FCC fines will be the least of their worries when DHS charges them with terrorism.
[12:07:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02here I sit brokenhearted - 06Twitter Flunks Examination as University Endowments Dump Stock - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:07:11] <exec> 08└─...paid a dime and only farted... Fuck twitter.
[12:07:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:buzzword intolerance - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:07:30] <exec> 08└─That's because you have a lot of ambiguity intolerance, grandpa.
[12:09:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03pkrasimirov [3358] (Score:2) 02Re:The biggest scam of all: it was a sausage party - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:09:02] <exec> 08└─> fuck you, [...], you lying, dirty whore. That was exactly the official site moto, it was just politically correct: "Have an affair!"
[12:09:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:The biggest scam of all: it was a sausage party - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:09:03] <exec> 08└─That's not remotely a surprise. The fact is that men are much more willing to pay for sex than women, and that's what Ashley Madison's business model amounts to. This may be at least partially related to an experiment they ran once in Europe, where they had attractive-looking people ask complete str...
[12:10:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score:2) 02Re:Cloud - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 635 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:22] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I get the point. I guess, for me, it seems just as easy to copy a file from my PC onto my phone to take with me as it is to upload it to the cloud. If you always have your phone or tablet with you, you can always plug it into (or use bluetooth or wifi) the PC to transfer files (or set up an au...
[12:12:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03infodragon [3509] (Score:2) 02Re:Is it more creative? - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 814 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:12:42] <exec> 08└─This is not about autistic people but people with autistic tendencies but not "autistic." I believe Einstein was one of them and to paraphrase one of my favorite sayings from him... "Make things as simple as possible, but no simpler." Also something else I attribute to him (It could be someone else)...
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[14:05:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Given the need for control groups - 06Scientists Investigating Brain Disorders Engineer Unusually Intelligent Mice - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:05:27] <exec> 08└─One is a genius, the other's insane.
[14:05:36] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03bradley13 [3053] 02What is critical thinking? - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 2200 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:05:36] <exec> 08└─A logic course teaches you mathematical / algebraic concepts. It's true enough that those aren't going to transfer into ordinary conversations. No one is going to derive truth tables from sentences in ordinary conversation. I'm not quite sure where ordinary logical fallacies [yourlogicalfallacyis.co...
[14:05:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score:2) 02Re:What is critical thinking? - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:05:38] <exec> 08└─The teacher needs to present both the argument "slavery is evil" and the argument "slavery was a net benefit to blacks", and both of them with equal sincerity.
[14:05:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:What is critical thinking? - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:05:39] <exec> 08└─If you shut your brain off because it's a sensitive topic, you're not exactly demonstrating good critical thinking skills.
[14:05:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:What is critical thinking? - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 3448 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:05:41] <exec> 08└─Having taken numerous such courses, my views are somewhat different but similar to yours. Perhaps my view is based on my upbringing and approach to class, or simply due to life experience. Critical thinking has little to do with calmly discussing an argument with a rational discourse, agreeing to di...
[14:05:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:What is critical thinking? - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:05:43] <exec> 08└─Critical thinking, imho, means that students genuinely realize and accept that every issue has two or more viewpoints, held with equal sincerity by their respective proponents.
[14:05:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:What is critical thinking? - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 554 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:05:45] <exec> 08└─Well, I suppose, in theory. But does the exercise of critical thinking encompass all topics, really? How about, "Child rape is a horrific crime" vs. "Pedophiles need lovin' too?" "The Final Solution was an utterly depraved policy that struck at the very foundations of civilization" vs. "The Jews, Co...
[14:05:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Holmes - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:05:46] <exec> 08└─The first link is to an article in the American Educator where Sherlock Holmes is used as a prime example of someone who mastered Critical Thinking. Then, we get this PNAS paper authored by...right.. Natasha Holmes. Coincidence?
[14:05:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Holmes - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:05:48] <exec> 08└─Someone named Holmes is more likely to show interest in the character.
[14:05:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"Critical Thinking" is pretty random - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:05:50] <exec> 08└─It's like asking for opinions about national security, if you ask 30 people you're likely to get discourses on military procurement, Washington beltway politics, airport security checkpoints, Islam, Jews, oil companies, computer hackers, immigration, STEM training, subsidies for college education, j...
[14:05:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Critical Thinking" is pretty random - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 596 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:05:52] <exec> 08└─"Critical thinking" is not opinions, and it is not like opinions. Opinions are things you consider true, sometimes for good reasons, sometimes only because you believed someone who told you, sometimes because it never occurred to you that it might not be true, and sometimes for reasons I didn't thin...
[14:05:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Critical Thinking" is pretty random - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:05:53] <exec> 08└─So are you suggesting students take courses in logic, Euclidean geometry, probability and statistics? The author of TFA implied there was more to it than that (and also less, in the sense that proficiency in manipulating truth tables and applying statistical tests might be beside the point), but wha...
[14:05:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:"Critical Thinking" is pretty random - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 481 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:05:55] <exec> 08└─Okay, that's a absolutely a factually true statement, but you definitely need to do more to explain how it relates to the subject of your post. Like, the conclusions you arrive at don't necessarily dictate whether you've used critical or non-critical thinking processes to arrive at them. Criticality...
[14:05:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Faculty/admin first - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 616 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:05:57] <exec> 08└─You want to teach critical thinking? Then you need to get the faculty and administration to think critically first. There are a number of huge blind spots in academia that infrequently get questioned such as the huge overproduction rate of postgraduate degrees (particularly, PhDs), the relative impo...
[14:06:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Overgeneralization - 06Chemists Suffer from Chemophobia-Phobia - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:01] <exec> 08└─Many people are against certain applications of chemistry (for example, non-natural chemical substances in the food, often even restricted to a specific set of substances).
[14:06:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score:2) 02Re:Overgeneralization - 06Chemists Suffer from Chemophobia-Phobia - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:03] <exec> 08└─Evil All Natural Kiwis! https://jameskennedymonash.files.wordpress.com [wordpress.com]
[14:06:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score:2) 02Breaking Bad? - 06Chemists Suffer from Chemophobia-Phobia - 561 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:06:05] <exec> 08└─Breaking bad is a positive portrayal of chemistry? One of the first things that happens in the series is "how to dissolve a body in your bath-tub". The problem is that the positive side of chemistry is boooooring. You cannot have exciting chemistry in Hollywood. When the evil badguy in the movie thr...
[14:06:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Breaking Bad? - 06Chemists Suffer from Chemophobia-Phobia - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:07] <exec> 08└─An anti-hero using guns to murder people still glorifies guns and shows off their power. Doing the same with chemistry still fits that cultural role.
[14:06:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score:2) 02Re:Breaking Bad? - 06Chemists Suffer from Chemophobia-Phobia - 630 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:08] <exec> 08└─My complaint was that 80% of the article is about trying to shake off the perception that the public is afraid of "chemicals!", or more so that chemists still think the public is afraid of "chemicals!". Then the last paragraph is about how powerful and dangerous "chemicals!" actually are and how the...
[14:06:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Breaking Bad? - 06Chemists Suffer from Chemophobia-Phobia - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:10] <exec> 08└─Hm. Fair. Chemicals=scary is actually going to be kinda true when you're doing reactive chemistry, though. The end products, isolated and used for the main function can be quite harmless, but when you're running the chemical process itself, there's something scary going on. Delicious table salt is e...
[14:06:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Breaking Bad? - 06Chemists Suffer from Chemophobia-Phobia - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:12] <exec> 08└─One of the first things that happens in the series is "how to dissolve a body in your bath-tub".
[14:06:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score:2) 02Re:Breaking Bad? - 06Chemists Suffer from Chemophobia-Phobia - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:14] <exec> 08└─Except you have no idea of the composition of the alien body, and the potential toxic by products when dissolving them using the chemicals normally used for dissolving human bodies.
[14:06:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03SDRefugee [4477] (Score:1) 02Re:Are they jamming mobile or WiFi signal? - 06FCC Says Convention Centers Can't Block Your Wi-Fi Hotspot - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:38] <exec> 08└─Dunno WHY I'm replying to an AC, but here goes... Why would you think DHS would allege "terrorism" when somebody blocks a signal carrying 911? They have been bugging the FCC to be able to do *that* VERY thing in cases of riots.....
[14:06:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Monetization Kills Innovation - 06Twitter Flunks Examination as University Endowments Dump Stock - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:06:47] <exec> 08└─That is pretty much the situation. The only reason it was overvalued was because it is the most popular of its platform type. That gave it momentum which increased its value. But in the long run, twitter isn't all that special and can be easily replaced.
[14:06:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03goodie [1877] (Score:2) 02about time... - 06Twitter Flunks Examination as University Endowments Dump Stock - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:06:53] <exec> 08└─For the past 9 years I was there, going like "WTF is Twitter good for?" like a bunch of other people? The only real useful application of a service like Twitter has been to relay natural disaster info, weather alerts etc. Everything else is just garbage to me. But then again, I never signed up neith...
[14:07:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:buzzword intolerance - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:13] <exec> 08└─And you have a vacuum between your ears, punk.
[14:07:17] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03albert [276] 02RationalWiki misses the point - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 105 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:17] <exec> 08└─attempts to minimize offense through the rebranding of certain words and terms to be neutral or inclusive
[14:07:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:"Political correctness"? - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 531 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:22] <exec> 08└─Well, the term's early history is indeed one of censorship. It originally referred to a soviet practice of denouncing research that wasn't compatible with communism. It could be scientifically correct, but still be called wrong because it was politically wrong. That has little bearing on its modern...
[14:07:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:1) 02Re:"Political correctness"? - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 1102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:24] <exec> 08└─Keep in mind that "Politically Correct" does not mean "Being Nice". One can be amazingly polite and yet use vulgar, uncouth terminology that would set one's virgin ears on fire. Political Correctness is nothing more than trying to fool people into thinking something else was said or state the argume...
[14:07:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:not really about being PC - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:28] <exec> 08└─It's especially aggravating when someone dances around trying to avoid describing a dark skinned person by the color of their skin or even chastising you for doing so. Meanwhile they are more than happy to call themselves white, or complain about the "rich white man".
[14:07:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03snick [1408] (Score:2) 02Re:Tell us where you live - 06Google Unveils Project Sunroof - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:48] <exec> 08└─Oh it is better than that. Tell us where you live, and that you are solar-curious. We already have your phone #. Don't worry. We will only sell this information to "trusted partners."
[14:08:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03iWantToKeepAnon [686] (Score:2) 02Re:I foresee... - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:08:01] <exec> 08└─Assuming the other partner being cheated on is suspicious, knows about the breach/dump, and is technically savy enough to download, use gzip/7z, grep/notepad, and parse/read/understand the format. Kind of a long shot IMO.
[14:08:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] 02Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 263 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:08:08] <exec> 08└─Since marriage is a legal contract, instead of being forever, we should set term limits on them. Say, ten years, with options to renew every five years. Love isn't forever, even if the offspring are. And they're often more damaged by divorce than the parents are.
[14:08:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 46 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:08:11] <exec> 08└─Maybe 5 years is too long for a term. 2 years?
[14:08:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:08:18] <exec> 08└─Prenuptial is an excellent idea. It protects both people. That "it's just planning for divorce" thing is said from people who habitually lie to themselves even in the face of final outcomes. People change and everyone has to realize that. What could be perfect now could be very toxic later. On the o...
[14:08:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:08:35] <exec> 08└─Yes, it is. You can live together as couple and do everything married people do without being married. And you can live separately as if you were single despite being married. Being married is a legal contract, and only a legal contract. Note that entering a legal contract can very well be a very em...
[14:08:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Data - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:08:48] <exec> 08└─As the screenshot above indicates, the dump contains files with titles including "aminno_member_dump.gz," "aminno_member_email.dump.gz," "CreditCardTransactions7z," and "member_details.dump.gz," an indication that the download could contain highly personal details.
[14:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:1) 02Re:you mean besides porn? - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:52] <exec> 08└─How much email in a Fortune 500 should be archived (yeah, I know most of it is "LOOK! KITTENS!", but filtering is risky).
[14:10:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No uses - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:29] <exec> 08└─So, no use for you means no use for anyone? Got it.
[14:10:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Legalize It - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 440 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:47] <exec> 08└─Is it currently a crime to ingest rat poison or arsenic? If not, why should it be a crime to ingest heroin or cocaine, which can be orders of magnitude safer? Society can intervene. You catch a gibbering drug user on the street, you throw them in treatment rather than a cell. If you exercise discret...
[14:10:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03hankwang [100] (Score:2) 02Re:Legalize It - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:57] <exec> 08└─I would much rather pay more taxes and pay more money for insurance than live as under an authoritarian government. Maybe freedom is worthless to you, but it isn't to me.
[14:10:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Legalize It - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:58] <exec> 08└─I can only read this as a false dichotomy or strawman argument.
[14:11:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:Legalize It - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:03] <exec> 08└─Peter wasn't talking about heroin, though.
[14:11:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Blowback - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 507 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:13] <exec> 08└─Why not use the term we used for a couple hundred years before: "the country?" We also used to talk about "national security," not "homeland security." We were a "nation," not a "homeland." "Homeland" is a proto-totalitarian, Orwellian term Dick Cheney and his minions brought to us. It smacks entire...
[14:11:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:We've got to do better - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:30] <exec> 08└─Wrong question. Show us in the Constitution where it says we don't have the right to consume what we wish.
[14:12:03] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bradley13 [3053] 02It's now the autism *spectrum* - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 761 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:12:03] <exec> 08└─Do note that, in the interests of increasing the number of people who are sick, deserving of special treatment, or whatever, the definition of autism has been hugely expanded. It now encompasses not only Aspergers, other things including "subthreshold autism". That last refers to people who have no...
[14:14:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Misconfigured device - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:12] <exec> 08└─There are good reasons why there are special times and places for all the nudity and sexual behaviour.
[14:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Oakenshield [4900] (Score:1) 02Re:Misconfigured device - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:13] <exec> 08└─I don't think that line of reasoning applies in this case. There are good reasons why there are special times and places for all the nudity and sexual behaviour. Going about your lawful business in public is not one of them. I suppose when I was younger, single, and desperate I'd have though it woul...
[14:14:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Nader 2000 - 06Wikipedia's Jimbo Wales Joins Lawrence Lessig Presidential Campaign - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:32] <exec> 08└─That was a big issue in 2004, but not now - Jennifer Brunner [wikipedia.org] was elected in 2006, and put in place paper bubble-sheet ballots that create a physical record of the votes and ensures that the physical record is what's counted and used for recounts.
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[15:05:31] <exec> 08└─Well, actually, they named this super-smart mouse "Algernon", because what could possibly go wrong?
[15:05:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Given the need for control groups - 06Scientists Investigating Brain Disorders Engineer Unusually Intelligent Mice - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:05:32] <exec> 08└─> what could possibly go wrong? Someone could add backstory and filler to a short story that really didn't need it, that's what.
[15:05:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Oblig. Snark - 06Scientists Investigating Brain Disorders Engineer Unusually Intelligent Mice - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:05:34] <exec> 08└─See my previous about smart mice: Oblig. Snark [soylentnews.org]
[15:05:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Oblig. Snark - 06Scientists Investigating Brain Disorders Engineer Unusually Intelligent Mice - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:05:36] <exec> 08└─Eh, mice lack the weakened jaw adaptation that allows the prefrontal lobe to grow much larger in humans. Our brain cells are indeed special, but they alone aren't enough to gain human-like sentience. Brain-bodymass ratio is an important(How important? we don't know) part of the equation.
[15:05:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So it begins - 06Scientists Investigating Brain Disorders Engineer Unusually Intelligent Mice - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:05:38] <exec> 08└─They will save us from the robot apocalypse! I mean, intelligent robots may have many abilities, but they have one weakness: Rodents destroying their wiring.
[15:05:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:NIMH - 06Scientists Investigating Brain Disorders Engineer Unusually Intelligent Mice - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:05:40] <exec> 08└─We've already got NIMH (the National Institute of Mental Health). This is how NIMH gets Nicodemus.
[15:05:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:You call that intelligence? - 06Scientists Investigating Brain Disorders Engineer Unusually Intelligent Mice - 898 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:05:42] <exec> 08└─No pain, no gain. Also, that's exactly like Toxoplasma gondii: [livescience.com] Ingram isn't sure the mechanism involved in the long-term behavior change, though she speculates the parasite may disrupt the smell region of a mouse's brain, preventing the rodent from detecting cat odor that would tr...
[15:05:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:2) 02Re:You call that intelligence? - 06Scientists Investigating Brain Disorders Engineer Unusually Intelligent Mice - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:05:44] <exec> 08└─It depends. Are the mice engaging in more dangerous behavior to gain a material advantage like extra food, or are they engaging in more dangerous behavior while taking selfies and squeaking "YOLO!" ?
[15:05:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:You call that intelligence? - 06Scientists Investigating Brain Disorders Engineer Unusually Intelligent Mice - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:05:45] <exec> 08└─Why do you think so few species evolved human levels of intelligence? It takes opposable thumbs and culture before the thinking too much thing starts to pay off.
[15:05:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:You call that intelligence? - 06Scientists Investigating Brain Disorders Engineer Unusually Intelligent Mice - 663 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:05:47] <exec> 08└─Not really. Most people have more than enough fear than they really need. What this means is that the motivation becomes more based upon intellect than on emotion. So, you'll still try to avoid the unpleasant outcome, but you'll have more options as to how you do that. Rather than just running. It a...
[15:05:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Flowers for Algernon - 06Scientists Investigating Brain Disorders Engineer Unusually Intelligent Mice - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:05:49] <exec> 08└─Flowers for Algernon [amazon.com]
[15:05:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Re:Flowers for Algernon - 06Scientists Investigating Brain Disorders Engineer Unusually Intelligent Mice - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:05:50] <exec> 08└─Escape Pod [escapepod.org] produced a free audio version of the original short story, if you don't want to give Amazon your money. Direct link [libsyn.com] to the MP3 if you want to skip the BS and just get the file.
[15:05:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Flowers for Algernon - 06Scientists Investigating Brain Disorders Engineer Unusually Intelligent Mice - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:05:52] <exec> 08└─Fuck Amazon, here's a much better link https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[15:05:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheLink [332] (Score:2) 02Maybe it just reduces fear and nervousness - 06Scientists Investigating Brain Disorders Engineer Unusually Intelligent Mice - 627 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:05:54] <exec> 08└─Or increases self-confidence. It might not actually be increasing intelligence by much. Mice that are too terrified of drowning or "all the terrible stuff that is happening to them caused by those huge hairless monsters" might be less able to think clearly. “I must not fear. Fear is the mind-kille...
[15:05:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Methods - 06Scientists Investigating Brain Disorders Engineer Unusually Intelligent Mice - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:05:56] <exec> 08└─In the paper it says: "Full methods are available in the Supplementary Methods." However, I can't seem to find a link for this. Perhaps I am blocking it or something? I don't see how we are supposed to study a paper without the methods.
[15:06:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What is critical thinking? - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:05] <exec> 08└─You demonstrate that a viewpoint is wrong by either (a) showing that the chain of logic is fallacious, or (b) showing that the premises are incorrect.
[15:06:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Re:What is critical thinking? - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 744 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:06] <exec> 08└─You are absolutely right: all viewpoints are not equal. However, refusing to understand an opposing viewpoint limits your ability to refute it, counter it, or whatever else is necessary. If you don't know how the other side things, what motivates them, you have handicapped yourself. Not unimportant:...
[15:06:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:2) 02Re:What is critical thinking? - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 709 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:08] <exec> 08└─You don't even need to go for something that emotional: Try "The Earth is at the center of the Universe." - feel free to add in "The Earth is a flat, plate-shaped object." for extra amusement. Or my personal favorite, "anything that can fly is a demon". I can safely dismiss that viewpoint, though I...
[15:06:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:2) 02Re:What is critical thinking? - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 530 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:10] <exec> 08└─Funny, I'd define critical thought as less about being able to argue a point and more about a willingness to follow claims to their sources and admit your deeply cherished personal viewpoints might be completely wrong. I think a person can learn to think critically without being a member of debate c...
[15:06:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Critical Thinking" is pretty random - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 1088 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:15] <exec> 08└─Courses in logic are certainly good (by logic I mean general logic, not mathematical logic, so no manipulation of truth tables, but things like the difference between inductive and deductive reasoning, why inductive reasoning is necessary, but may lead to fallacies, and how to avoid them, etc.). A c...
[15:06:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Faculty/admin first - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:18] <exec> 08└─There are a number of huge blind spots in academia that infrequently get questioned
[15:06:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Faculty/admin first - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 512 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:20] <exec> 08└─Teaching critical thinking is easy, but it would require a complete overhaul of how most schools handle classes. You need more time in class talking with other students about the content. You need more time taking classes that aren't in your major. And you need to have less emphasis on tests with co...
[15:06:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Breaking Bad? - 06Chemists Suffer from Chemophobia-Phobia - 651 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:36] <exec> 08└─Breaking Bad is about an anti-hero, sure. But it taught that a knowledge of chemistry confers power (such as when Walt uses chemistry to start the motorhome after Jessie kills the battery and strands them in the desert). I see that as a positive message, because it gives people who don't know chemis...
[15:06:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Breaking Bad? - 06Chemists Suffer from Chemophobia-Phobia - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:06:39] <exec> 08└─Science doesn't say "don't dissolve unknown alien bodies with acid because DANGER". Science says "don't forget to wear a good air-filter and protective eyeglasses because this could be awesome!"
[15:06:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Cure Chemophobia - 06Chemists Suffer from Chemophobia-Phobia - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:06:41] <exec> 08└─Exposure therapy ought to cure it!
[15:07:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Are they jamming mobile or WiFi signal? - 06FCC Says Convention Centers Can't Block Your Wi-Fi Hotspot - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:10] <exec> 08└─Yeah those disgusting people without a pseudonym! You might want to read about doublethink and ponder why Anatole France famously said that The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread....
[15:07:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Monetization Kills - 06Twitter Flunks Examination as University Endowments Dump Stock - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:20] <exec> 08└─I call it the Dice Effect.
[15:07:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Re:about time... - 06Twitter Flunks Examination as University Endowments Dump Stock - 1177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:27] <exec> 08└─Like Facebook or G+ or MySpace or any other "social" site, it's really only useful if there are other people you're interested in communicating with already on it. If none of your friends are on it, and no organization that you're interested in getting information from is on it, then it's simply not...
[15:07:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Source - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:44] <exec> 08└─Why is this one getting modded up instead of the later one that points out there were references?
[15:07:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:buzzword intolerance - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:50] <exec> 08└─According to this article, I'd prefer a vacuum between his ears than indeterminable quantity of fuzzy, illogical, inefficient low density gray matter.
[15:08:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Political correctness"? - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:00] <exec> 08└─That has little bearing on its modern meaning, which loosely translates to "not being a racist(or otherwise bigoted) ass spouting ignorant opinions."
[15:08:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Trump - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:08:14] <exec> 08└─I don't have any use for Trump. I don't agree with his positions. His persona is boorish. I do like watching him kick the power-elite in the nuts. I like watching the power-elite dance around like they just got kicked in the nuts. Others may feel the same way. On another level, I appreciate that som...
[15:08:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03skullz [2532] (Score:2) 02Re:Not bad, but the problems of old still exist - 06Google Unveils Project Sunroof - 836 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:25] <exec> 08└─I'm in the process of getting SolarCity to install some panels on my roof. Like many, the upfront cost of the panels and installation and inspection (the list goes on and on) was just way too much. I will probably end up paying more for financing it through SolarCity and their referral program seems...
[15:09:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:17] <exec> 08└─Love isn't forever, even if the offspring are.
[15:09:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Atatsu [4251] (Score:1) 02Re:Data - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 1782 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:28] <exec> 08└─Paying to support the other ex-partner usually depends on whether or not you have children together. And in the event you do have children together it isn't as simple as just "splitting" the kids. If the parents can't agree on custody (and I seriously doubt most people agree on that shit) then you h...
[15:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03iWantToKeepAnon [686] (Score:2) 02What If (xkcd) discussed this ... - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:21] <exec> 08└─http://what-if.xkcd.com/58/ [xkcd.com]
[15:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03iWantToKeepAnon [686] (Score:2) 02Re:What If (xkcd) discussed this ... - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:22] <exec> 08└─"The speed you need to stay in orbit is about 8 kilometers per second.[4] Only a fraction of a rocket's energy is used to lift up out of the atmosphere; the vast majority of it is used to gain orbital (sideways) speed." "Reaching orbital speed takes much more fuel than reaching orbital height. Getti...
[15:13:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's now the autism *spectrum* - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:08] <exec> 08└─Redefining autism is a good way to obscure any trend in former autism, so if some factors increased of decreased autism in the last decades, it gets more difficult to ascertain. Redefinition of words is very 1984esque.
[15:13:34] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02Re:MIPS - 06IBM Introduces Two Open-Source-Only Mainframes - 924 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:34] <exec> 08└─The new mainframe is explained (somewhat) here: http://techcrunch.com [techcrunch.com] and more detailed specs here: http://www-03.ibm.com [ibm.com] Its not what you think it is. It is a massively parallel...
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[16:05:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02yeah, those cutscenes will look great - 06Previously “Hidden” 1080p Xbox Streaming Officially Launches Today on Windows 10 - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:05:33] <exec> 08└─Cutscenes. So high quality you won't even notice that there isn't any gameplay anymore. Unlock achievements by watching all the same games as your fair-weather friends. As soon as you play a game that isn't on this season's trendiness list, you can be sure your friends will dump you. Keep watching t...
[16:05:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:yeah, those cutscenes will look great - 06Previously “Hidden” 1080p Xbox Streaming Officially Launches Today on Windows 10 - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:05:34] <exec> 08└─http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Is+Hillary+dead+yet%3F [lmgtfy.com]
[16:05:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:yeah, those cutscenes will look great - 06Previously “Hidden” 1080p Xbox Streaming Officially Launches Today on Windows 10 - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:05:35] <exec> 08└─Yes, Hilary is dead. [wikipedia.org]
[16:05:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You call that intelligence? - 06Scientists Investigating Brain Disorders Engineer Unusually Intelligent Mice - 357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:05:56] <exec> 08└─From TFA: We exploited murine aversion to cat odors (Vyas et al, 2007) by baiting a T-maze with food pellets in one arm and bobcat urine in the opposite arm. PDE4B+/+ mice avoided the bobcat urine arm, whereas PDE4BY358C/Y358C mice explored both arms equally (Figure 2d). This difference was not attr...
[16:05:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You call that intelligence? - 06Scientists Investigating Brain Disorders Engineer Unusually Intelligent Mice - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:05:57] <exec> 08└─We have previously shown that decreasing environmental threat by dimming the lights results in increased exploration with consequent improvement in memory
[16:06:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02pan-dimensional beings? - 06Scientists Investigating Brain Disorders Engineer Unusually Intelligent Mice - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:06:05] <exec> 08└─Mice are merely the protrusion into our dimension of hyper-intelligent pan-dimensional beings who, unbeknownst to the human race, are the most intelligent species on the planet Earth. They spent a lot of their time in laboratories running complex experiments on humans. They paid Magrathea for the pl...
[16:06:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Redundant) 02pan-dimensional beings? - 06Scientists Investigating Brain Disorders Engineer Unusually Intelligent Mice - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:06:07] <exec> 08└─Mice are merely the protrusion into our dimension of hyper-intelligent pan-dimensional beings who, unbeknownst to the human race, are the most intelligent species on the planet Earth. They spent a lot of their time in laboratories running complex experiments on humans. They paid Magrathea for the pl...
[16:06:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Narf - 06Scientists Investigating Brain Disorders Engineer Unusually Intelligent Mice - 5 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:06:09] <exec> 08└─Poit.
[16:06:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score:2) 02Re:What is critical thinking? - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:20] <exec> 08└─Right, but why jump in at the deep end?
[16:06:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What is critical thinking? - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:21] <exec> 08└─http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Is+Hillary+dead+yet%3F [lmgtfy.com]
[16:06:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:What is critical thinking? - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:22] <exec> 08└─Smartly choosing your battles is not a negative trait.
[16:06:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What is critical thinking? - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:24] <exec> 08└─Throwing people in the deep end is fine if you're trying to feel proud and smug that you can swim. Not such a good method if you're trying to teach people to swim.
[16:06:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:What is critical thinking? - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 176 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:26] <exec> 08└─Critical thinking, imho, means that students genuinely realize and accept that every issue has two or more viewpoints, held with equal sincerity by their respective proponents.
[16:06:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02what is evil? - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 4224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:32] <exec> 08└─It's taken me a long time to think critically, and I'm still improving at it. Once you attain a degree of skill at it, you begin to see all kinds of things. Our society is manipulative, full of baseless assumptions and unquestioned customs. For example, we all come to realize that the discipline of...
[16:06:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What is critical thinking? - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:34] <exec> 08└─Are members of debate clubs typically critical thinkers, or just good at bullshitting unthinking people into thinking they are?
[16:06:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:2) 02Re:Faculty/admin first - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:44] <exec> 08└─I am all for turning the education system on its head for the benefit of the students. Tell me more about this school you went to.
[16:06:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:2) 02Re:Faculty/admin first - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:46] <exec> 08└─You want to teach critical thinking? Then you need to get the faculty and administration to think critically first.
[16:07:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02OMG Chemicals! - 06Chemists Suffer from Chemophobia-Phobia - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:04] <exec> 08└─or more so that chemists still think the public is afraid of "chemicals!".
[16:07:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02Re:Are they jamming mobile or WiFi signal? - 06FCC Says Convention Centers Can't Block Your Wi-Fi Hotspot - 475 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:38] <exec> 08└─I suspect they were using a COTS jammer from China, which are not very selective in the frequencies jammed. This is probably where the fine came from; if they were jamming an emergency or military band then that gets you into serious trouble. The blocking of wifi just highlights the issue so the FCC...
[16:08:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:"Political correctness"? - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 1535 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:22] <exec> 08└─Here's the difference that I see. As a generality, those that approve of the FCC style of censorship (Bad Things) frown upon making "a priest, a rabbi, a dumb blonde, a dirty Mexican, a Jew-loving gay nigger, a Nazi, a liberal, and a terrorist walked into a bar" joke to a complete stranger or in ina...
[16:08:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:RationalWiki misses the point - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:28] <exec> 08└─(diff AC here) Why is this marked offtopic? It is SPOT on topic. It strikes to the core of why people do PC. They want to win an argument but use word tricks to do so. That is not winning. That is being intellectually dishonest.
[16:08:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:"Political correctness"? - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:33] <exec> 08└─That is both an insightful and informative post. But, let's take that a step further. Political correctness was a tool in the Soviet to control thinking. Today, policical correctness is again a tool, being used to control how people think. I see no difference, really. So the SJW's don't have the pow...
[16:08:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:not really about being PC - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:39] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure how tall Trump is. If he is 6 ft tall or more, then he has all of the qualities that most people look for in their leaders. Leaders don't have to be likeable, they are only required to inspire faith. A plain speaking asshole inspires far more faith than the mealy-mouthed little weenie,...
[16:08:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:PC is an ambiguity magnet - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:42] <exec> 08└─No need to play Internet psychologist, here. Some people have perfectly logical reasons for not caring/criticizing others for being offended about something. microagressions
[16:08:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Authoritarians - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 681 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:49] <exec> 08└─Not a bad post - although I disagree with your mindset, and your approach. Yes, I was trained to "do something, right or wrong". People in general do indeed prefer a plain spoken individual who speaks his mind. When action is required, they want a leader who can act, instead of spending weeks apolog...
[16:08:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Marry girl children. Not "Ashley Madison"s - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:51] <exec> 08└─You're such a cunt yourself. I hope you're caught committing adultery.
[16:08:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Trump - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:53] <exec> 08└─I like the guy because, unlike every other candidate except Ben Carson, he's not a politician yet. Which is also why I like Ben Carson. Granted, I still only like them for a value of like relative to the other candidates. Neither of them are remotely awesome like Tim Moen.
[16:08:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Trump - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:54] <exec> 08└─We're pretty much in agreement on that. That said, though, I'd rather see the arrogant prick raising hell in the White House, than see any one of the power elite resting on their laurels there.
[16:09:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score:2) 02Re:Tell us where you live - 06Google Unveils Project Sunroof - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:08] <exec> 08└─If you have an Android phone, they already know exactly where you live. If you have an iPhone or Windows phone... they probably still know where you live. If you don't own a phone because "They" will find out where you live... they probably still know where you live, and now you're on a governmen...
[16:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:The other side of the story - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:02] <exec> 08└─Where do I go for the download? This is not a rhethorical question.
[16:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:The other side of the story - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:04] <exec> 08└─If you don't have a bittorrent client, I recommend using Ninite to install qbittorrent: https://ninite.com [ninite.com]. Grab the magnet URL from the pirate bay page, plug it into qbittorrent, and wait however many years it takes to download 10G worth of data.
[16:11:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:AV - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:48] <exec> 08└─I only make redundant arrays of inexpensive Parrots. Swapping them out when dead is well documented.
[16:12:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03morgauxo [2082] (Score:2) 02Re:Legalize It - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 2153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:22] <exec> 08└─>> >>Its Hard to exercise your 'fundamental rights' when your brain chemistry is fucked up by the drugs, and you want another hit so badly you'd sell your >> >>own child into slavery for a hit. >>Uh, no. You can still exercise your fundamental rights even when you're on drugs. Even if you couldn't,...
[16:12:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Legalize It - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:23] <exec> 08└─True but arresting the parent who does this doesn't fix the problem for the child does it.
[16:13:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:the internet belongs to the west - 06U.S. Delays Giving Up Oversight of Internet Administrator Icann - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:17] <exec> 08└─As opposed to people trying to get anything e.g. not respectful of Islam taken off the Internet as a whole.
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[17:05:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Are antidepressants an effective treatment? - 06Female Libido Pill Approved by FDA, With Caveats - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:05:28] <exec> 08└─This drug was initially studied as an antidepressant. I wonder if there have been studies on more potent antidepressants treating the low libido. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[17:05:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02not needed by lesbians - 06Female Libido Pill Approved by FDA, With Caveats - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:05:29] <exec> 08└─Only straight females need a libido enhancer. It's entirely men's fault for being so unappealing.
[17:05:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:not needed by lesbians - 06Female Libido Pill Approved by FDA, With Caveats - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:05:30] <exec> 08└─It depends... Most guys just don't know what to do with it. Think "multitasking" and you'll "get er done"
[17:05:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:not needed by lesbians - 06Female Libido Pill Approved by FDA, With Caveats - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:05:32] <exec> 08└─"If you're bored during sex, you have to tell me!" [smbc-comics.com]
[17:05:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:not needed by lesbians - 06Female Libido Pill Approved by FDA, With Caveats - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:05:34] <exec> 08└─It's even funnier if you imagine that the girl was getting Eiffel Towered and the two guys were playing tic-tac tow on her back.
[17:05:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:not needed by lesbians - 06Female Libido Pill Approved by FDA, With Caveats - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:05:36] <exec> 08└─I know that lesbian "bed death" is overblown but that doesn't mean that all women will have identical sex drives either. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[17:05:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Off-label for Men? - 06Female Libido Pill Approved by FDA, With Caveats - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:05:37] <exec> 08└─Is the mechanism of action conserved for men? I've read somewhere that lack of a man's sexual desire is more disruptive to a romantic relationship due to the pressure of societal expectations. If the drug lowers libido in men then it may also be useful for men that have a much higher sex drive than...
[17:05:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Re:Off-label for Men? - 06Female Libido Pill Approved by FDA, With Caveats - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:05:39] <exec> 08└─"Lack of a man's sexual desire" is code for "man doesn't have enough money to buy me things."
[17:05:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Off-label for Men? - 06Female Libido Pill Approved by FDA, With Caveats - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:05:41] <exec> 08└─And i thought men don't understand women ^_^
[17:05:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:yeah, those cutscenes will look great - 06Previously “Hidden” 1080p Xbox Streaming Officially Launches Today on Windows 10 - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:05:49] <exec> 08└─Hollywood and the game industry have the same problem: when you spend that many millions just to make something beautiful, you don't want to risk it all just to add substance. Something original could easily tank, so you make sequels and reuse the proven ideas. I just re-played a few RTS from 17 and...
[17:05:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:yeah, those cutscenes will look great - 06Previously “Hidden” 1080p Xbox Streaming Officially Launches Today on Windows 10 - 458 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:05:50] <exec> 08└─Video games are too similar to movies these days, and have you seen TV lately? Killjoys is like a prequel to Firefly, Dark Matter is like a sequel to Stargate SG-1, and Lucifier is exactly like Angel except he's literally Satan instead of a vampire. I could try books, but the last time I read a book...
[17:05:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03dr zim [748] (Score:1) 02Re:yeah, those cutscenes will look great - 06Previously “Hidden” 1080p Xbox Streaming Officially Launches Today on Windows 10 - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:05:52] <exec> 08└─Won't he be pissed when he finds out they retired the iron [wikipedia.org].
[17:05:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Antifeatures in proprietary software - 06Previously “Hidden” 1080p Xbox Streaming Officially Launches Today on Windows 10 - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:05:54] <exec> 08└─We've seen this before. https://www.fsf.org [fsf.org]
[17:06:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Methods - 06Scientists Investigating Brain Disorders Engineer Unusually Intelligent Mice - 499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:06:21] <exec> 08└─Neuropsychopharmacology accepted article preview 14 August 2015; doi: 10.1038/npp.2015.240 This is an unedited manuscript that has been accepted for publication. NPG are providing this early version of the manuscript as a service to our customers. The manuscript will undergo copyediting, typesettin...
[17:06:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:What is critical thinking? - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 698 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:06:41] <exec> 08└─It's an easy primer topic. Enslaving people is inherently evil, but would you rather be a prize slave critical for your master's operation or an impoverished free man who's treated like dirt? Which is more inhuman? Teaching critical thinking will let you understand both arguments, but not necessaril...
[17:06:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What is critical thinking? - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 676 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:06:46] <exec> 08└─Winning hearts is often more important than winning minds. Because most people don't actually use their minds ;). Most people haven't learned to think critically and logically. For example many will not think and immediately go "NO YOU ARE WRONG!" to claims like "babies are less important than a fer...
[17:06:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What is critical thinking? - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:06:53] <exec> 08└─"understanding opposing arguments so well that you can effectively argue for the other side."
[17:07:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Critical Thinking" is pretty random - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:00] <exec> 08└─But the point you completely skipped is the most important one: Scepticism.
[17:07:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Critical Thinking" is pretty random - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 679 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:02] <exec> 08└─Depends on what you consider "useless". I enjoyed the discussion, so it was not useless to me. I hope at least some of the other readers here (including you) also enjoyed it, so it wasn't useless to them either. And of course if I had not done it, I would not have gotten your answers, which also hav...
[17:07:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Faculty/admin first - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 1417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:08] <exec> 08└─I went to http://evergreen.edu [evergreen.edu] . Most of the classes are larger, my first year there I had one 48 credit course that spanned the entire year and 4 different subjects. There was a lecture component a seminar component and a lab component. It gave us ample time to actually use the inf...
[17:07:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02130 mya is early Cretaceous - 06World's "First Flower" May Have Bloomed Underwater - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:07:45] <exec> 08└─Call me a pedant, but just pointing out an error. Late Cretaceous is more like 70 mya. That error is not in the LA Times article.
[17:08:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Are they jamming mobile or WiFi signal? - 06FCC Says Convention Centers Can't Block Your Wi-Fi Hotspot - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:08:03] <exec> 08└─The difference being who and why. Of course the government doesn't want random laypeople blocking 911 calls at any given time; they only want government people doing so under specific circumstances.
[17:08:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Are they jamming mobile or WiFi signal? - 06FCC Says Convention Centers Can't Block Your Wi-Fi Hotspot - 1197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:08:05] <exec> 08└─I seriously doubt it. I've no direct experience with the cheap jammers you're talking about, but everything I've heard agrees with you about their crudeness. However, that crudeness would make them useless for forcing customers from their own WiFi tethering to your pay WiFi; it'll jam you WiFi as we...
[17:09:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03dr zim [748] (Score:1) 02Re:Not bad, but the problems of old still exist - 06Google Unveils Project Sunroof - 775 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:31] <exec> 08└─It's nice to see more options coming out for DC powered appliances such as air conditioners and refrigerators. I think the solar market would benefit most by more DC powered consumer devices and home battery packs as opposed to trying to sell your juice back at a fraction of what you'd pay for it. W...
[17:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03halcyon1234 [1082] (Score:2) 02Re:I foresee... - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 607 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:51] <exec> 08└─I wouldn't be shocked if a divorce lawyer download the DB, extracted the addresses, and sent out a mass mailing. They could even dress up the envelope to be inconspicuous, address it to "The Lady Of The House". Some flowery language about "thinking about your future" and "sometimes the time to be yo...
[17:10:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:05] <exec> 08└─Yes, both men and women are disadvantaged in many cases and that is a problem. Historically, it was much worse for women and feminism has done a lot to fix that. There is still a lot left to do to fix sexism, whichever way it swings. It would probably be better to be pro-father or pro-husband equali...
[17:11:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Virtual machines - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:49] <exec> 08└─Add some enterprise-sized Microsoft Sharepoint/Exchange etc virtual machines and you might start running out of space soon ;). Imagine one of those places that scan huge amounts of paper documents and have many users who need to upload/download those scans quickly. Or high res MRI/CAT scans.
[17:12:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Gravis [4596] 02for your protection - 06World's Largest Capacity Storage Drive Announced: It's a 15.36 Terabyte SSD - 325 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:12:25] <exec> 08└─the best use of these may be to integrate them into police cars with "always on" dash cams instead of "on when they choose or turn on their siren" or some other bullshit scheme that misses the action some of the time. with good encoding, this could hold over a year of continuous video. the same goes...
[17:16:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Re:Where exactly is this "trauma"? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 800 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:01] <exec> 08└─Since you're theoretically trying to see the issue from different perspectives: If the woman doesn't spend time on the websites that resemble a men's locker room or other sites where trying to 'shock' people with images is normal, of course she's going to feel shocked. It's a logical reaction, not a...
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[18:05:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03GlennC [3656] (Score:2) 02Lesson Learned - 06Female Libido Pill Approved by FDA, With Caveats - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:05:39] <exec> 08└─It was rejected by the FDA twice...
[18:05:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02How soon will it be added to Crystal Light? - 06Female Libido Pill Approved by FDA, With Caveats - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:05:40] <exec> 08└─And sold in the drink mix isle of every supermarket?
[18:05:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How soon will it be added to Crystal Light? - 06Female Libido Pill Approved by FDA, With Caveats - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:05:42] <exec> 08└─Definitely at Bill Cosby's favorite supermarket.
[18:06:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:What is critical thinking? - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 509 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:06:49] <exec> 08└─Quite correct. I should have stated that the specific argument presented in favor of a particular viewpoint was thus refuted. If, however, all arguments in favor of a viewpoint are thus refuted, and there is an opposing viewpoint that has not been refuted in the same way, then it is a safe assumptio...
[18:07:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:2) 02Re:Overgeneralization - 06Chemists Suffer from Chemophobia-Phobia - 734 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:25] <exec> 08└─Well it certainly has not helped with lying scumbag companies that have introduced chemicals without the proper testing leading to many, many instances of harmful side effects in people/animals/plants. When that inevitably gets exposed every other chemical introduced gets painted with the same bad f...
[18:07:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrNemesis [1582] (Score:2) 02Re:Breaking Bad? - 06Chemists Suffer from Chemophobia-Phobia - 1619 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:34] <exec> 08└─Chemicals == scary for the same reason radiation == scary. Unless you've had a reasonably good science-based education and you cared enough to learn, all those long names are perfectly meaningless and it's impossible for the layperson to tell whether non-ionising radiation is as harmless as non-Hodg...
[18:09:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedBear [1734] (Score:2) 02Re:Authoritarians - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:22] <exec> 08└─I don't know anything about the author and I'm minutes away from sleep, but i read your post, followed the link, and thought I would add that the book is available as a free pdf download there
[18:09:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03albert [276] (Score:2) 02well, Trump-likers have a point - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:26] <exec> 08└─Liberals took a chance on Obama last time. He's not quite a clone of George Bush. Had they chosen a liberal equivalent of Trump (less desirable-seeming but more certain) then they'd not have ended up with a near-clone of George Bush.
[18:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03ralphhogaboom [5304] (Score:1) 02Re:I foresee... - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:09:58] <exec> 08└─Or what's more likely, someone creates a searchable website front end for the data. Punch in the last name, and it shows the last four of the CC number that matches. Or search by email address, and see results that way.
[18:10:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Airplane mode - 06Botched Google Stagefright Fix Won't be Resolved Until September - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:58] <exec> 08└─As far as I know, I am unaffected because my phone is in "Airplane Mode" full-time (to stop Firmware-over-the-air updates). I use a portable WiFi hotspot as my Cellular Radio. It is not all good. Due to carrier-grade NAT, I need to tunnel out to my own machine to get SIP to work.
[18:11:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Two Things... - 06Patent Awarded for Space Elevator - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:20] <exec> 08└─Sounds like they want to keep it rigid with internal air pressure. That may substantially reduce the materials needed.
[18:12:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Legalize It - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:51] <exec> 08└─Is it currently a crime to ingest rat poison or arsenic?
[18:12:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Legalize It - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:57] <exec> 08└─You don't get to define what is and isn't "proper control".
[18:13:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Legalize It - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:01] <exec> 08└─To be fair, we need to compare against our current approach of arresting mom and dumping the kids into the foster system where (statistically) they will be abused, bounced around completely out of their control and grow up to become criminals (at a rate higher than kids that don't go into the system...
[18:16:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Where exactly is this "trauma"? - 06Police Investigate Case of "Cyber-Flashing" - 618 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:09] <exec> 08└─Interesting. I like your choice of words with "alarmed". More women - and men - should be alarmed more often. The term shocked seems a bit overboard to me. Among other things, I do have EMT training (Emergency Medical Technician - spelled it out since you're on the other side of the big pond) and I...
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[19:05:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Iain M Banks wrote of this in 1996 - 06Engineers Identify How to Keep Surfaces Dry Underwater for Months - 1082 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:05:29] <exec> 08└─'The ships have been baroqued, to use the technical term,' the Culture ship said urbanely. 'It was always a possibility.' It made a sighing noise. The vessels have been fractally inscribed with partially random, non-predictable designs using up a little less than one per cent of the mass of each cra...
[19:05:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Microorganisms - 06Engineers Identify How to Keep Surfaces Dry Underwater for Months - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:05:30] <exec> 08└─I wonder if small organisms like bacteria are able to disrupt the surface tension of the water, making it harder to remain dry. Maybe they tested with sterilized surfaces or it just isn't significant.
[19:05:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Re:Lesson Learned - 06Female Libido Pill Approved by FDA, With Caveats - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:49] <exec> 08└─Everyone knows what the FDA really means when they say no ;-)
[19:05:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lesson Learned - 06Female Libido Pill Approved by FDA, With Caveats - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:50] <exec> 08└─"Your honor, the rapist took advantage of my increased libido while I was under the influence of Addyi and had sex with me that I really didn't want to have after I thought about it".
[19:05:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Re:Lesson Learned - 06Female Libido Pill Approved by FDA, With Caveats - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:51] <exec> 08└─So it is just as with V*agra (apparently you can't use that word, it gets tagged as spam) then. That was initially supposed to be medication for high blood pressure and heart disease. Its current primary use was just a "happy" side effect.
[19:05:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Placebo - 06Female Libido Pill Approved by FDA, With Caveats - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:05:55] <exec> 08└─Women taking the drug reported between half and one more sexually satisfying event per month - results experts admitted were "modest"
[19:05:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Placebo - 06Female Libido Pill Approved by FDA, With Caveats - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:57] <exec> 08└─Bets the placebo did better?
[19:05:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Placebo - 06Female Libido Pill Approved by FDA, With Caveats - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:59] <exec> 08└─Romance novels performed better at providing sexual fantasies, and the novels were cheaper too.
[19:06:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score:2) 02Re:NIMH - 06Scientists Investigating Brain Disorders Engineer Unusually Intelligent Mice - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:06:28] <exec> 08└─Thank you!! You beat me to it but it had to be said :)
[19:06:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Methods - 06Scientists Investigating Brain Disorders Engineer Unusually Intelligent Mice - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:06:42] <exec> 08└─The current methods only describe stats and generation of the mutant, so in its current form it is not really possible to assess this paper.
[19:06:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:What is critical thinking? - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 122 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:06:57] <exec> 08└─If you shut your brain off because it's a sensitive topic, you're not exactly demonstrating good critical thinking skills.
[19:07:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:Breaking Bad? - 06Chemists Suffer from Chemophobia-Phobia - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:55] <exec> 08└─Cool! So, we're looking at a summer 2016 release? Don't keep us hanging!
[19:09:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Source - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 458 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:02] <exec> 08└─> I found out the author has a PhD. I see no point in reading such unscholarly stuff, especially from someone with that level of credentials Indeed, I am disgusted by people who are experienced with science that try to communicate their knowledge to a lay audience. If it isn't worthy of a peer revie...
[19:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedBear [1734] (Score:2) 02Re:Authoritarians - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:41] <exec> 08└─Not a bad post - although I disagree with your mindset, and your approach. Yes, I was trained to "do something, right or wrong". People in general do indeed prefer a plain spoken individual who speaks his mind. When action is required, they want a leader who can act, instead of spending weeks apolog...
[19:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedBear [1734] (Score:2) 02Re:well, Trump-likers have a point - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:43] <exec> 08└─Liberals took a chance on Obama last time. He's not quite a clone of George Bush. Had they chosen a liberal equivalent of Trump (less desirable-seeming but more certain) then they'd not have ended up with a near-clone of George Bush.
[19:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:1) 02Re:Marry girl children. Not "Ashley Madison"s - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 393 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:47] <exec> 08└─He very likely can't get an erection (at least, not while doing anything legal) and is taking it out on half the human race, whose fault, after all, it is. As Any Fule Kno (TM), we have mysteeeeerious powers, something something menstrual blood, etc etc etc. This guy's such a pathetic limp biscuit h...
[19:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 2896 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:37] <exec> 08└─Would you please point me in the direction of a feminist who is arguing for gender equality in divorce or gender equality in general? It would be helpful if it would be somebody who has some say in the direction the movement is headed instead of somebody who simply calls themselves a feminist but do...
[19:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Legalize It - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 871 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:24] <exec> 08└─At one time, before he spent them into debt, she could have turned to the clergy for help. That would go better if it could include enrolling him in a free rehab provided as part of healthcare, but we don't have that. With church membership on the decline, perhaps a social worker? But certainly by t...
[19:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Legalize It - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:30] <exec> 08└─No matter who pays, it's still cheaper than prison. Funny how we don't seem to question the costs of prison or who's going to pay for it before we sentence someone.
[19:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:What's the cause? - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:38] <exec> 08└─That's pretty sad really. A chemical high may be more visceral but if it is actually better to the point you would prefer it at all times, something is very wrong. A lot of people enjoy a mild buzz from alcohol (for example) but few want that all the time.
[19:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:What's the cause? - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:40] <exec> 08└─The people saying that have obviously never suffered real pain of any significant duration. Thus, they will happily tolerate the suffering of other people as long as it helps their agenda.
[19:14:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:We've got to do better - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:05] <exec> 08└─You should know that the Constitution is NOT a comprehensive list of our rights. It is meant to be a comprehensive list of what the government may do with a series of amendments outlining specific things it most certainly may not do. So the correct question is show me where in the Constitution the g...
[19:15:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02not so surprising - 06People With High Levels of Autistic Traits are More Likely to Produce Unusually Creative Ideas - 1504 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:14] <exec> 08└─I always love when scientists claim something is surprising when it's exactly what I'd expect. In this case, I would indeed expect that more stubborn adherence to literal interpretation and precise correctness would lead to both more rare/unusual and higher quality insights than the fuzzier acceptan...
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[20:05:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02How can we get top tier programmers? - 06What Is a Rock Star Programmer? - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:05:27] <exec> 08└─(Without the pay or benefits that would actually encourage them to be interested) I know! Let's stoke egos in our job listing, but when we actually hire them, put them on menial maintenance of an internal inventory application! And don't forget the rockstars don't feel the need to have offices or ev...
[20:05:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02dumb as a rock - 06What Is a Rock Star Programmer? - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:05:28] <exec> 08└─A starfish shaped rock. Rock stars don't rock the boat, they sit quietly in the bottom and hold it steady. When you kick them, they don't move. When you call them, they echo back at you. The rock stars are always there, 25 hours a day, 366 days a year.
[20:05:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Jared Fogle not encouraged to be a brand - 06What Is a Rock Star Programmer? - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:05:30] <exec> 08└─For the love of Bob, don't think of himself as affiliated with Subway.
[20:05:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Jared Fogle not encouraged to be a brand - 06What Is a Rock Star Programmer? - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:05:32] <exec> 08└─$5 footlong
[20:05:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03bezenek [5688] (Score:1) 02Here are a few. Hiring them can be hard to do. - 06What Is a Rock Star Programmer? - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:05:33] <exec> 08└─One Rock Star programmer: https://www.linkedin.com [linkedin.com] And another: http://web.eecs.umich.edu [umich.edu] This one is not longer with us: https://en.wikipedia.org(computer_scientist) [wikipedia.org]
[20:05:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain_nifty [4252] (Score:1) 02Re:Microorganisms - 06Engineers Identify How to Keep Surfaces Dry Underwater for Months - 548 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:05:43] <exec> 08└─I would be more concerned about Macro-organisms, sea life fouling is pretty nasty stuff, and I don't think a thin layer of gas would do much to stop it in a real world environment. Still a pretty interesting technique, it just needs some study into how those micro-channels respond to harsher environ...
[20:05:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03GlennC [3656] 02Lesson Learned - 06Female Libido Pill Approved by FDA, With Caveats - 35 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:05:59] <exec> 08└─It was rejected by the FDA twice...
[20:06:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03zafiro17 [234] (Score:2) 02Re:Placebo - 06Female Libido Pill Approved by FDA, With Caveats - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:06:08] <exec> 08└─Seriously, these are pretty crap benefits, and if you look at the potential side effects, which range from nausea to fainting, you've got to ask, 'what is the point, other than marketing?' Meanwhile, tons of important diseases ravaging the developing world go untreated as researchers struggle to fin...
[20:06:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Yay! - 06Female Libido Pill Approved by FDA, With Caveats - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:06:10] <exec> 08└─Finally! Legal date rape drugs that the women willingly take themselves! Saves me a lot of effort and money (lawyers and no-candy-here halloween signs aint cheap!).
[20:07:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Critical Thinking" is pretty random - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:36] <exec> 08└─btw "useless" was intended as a joke.
[20:07:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:2) 02Re:Faculty/admin first - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 728 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:43] <exec> 08└─Thank you. That is the sort of stuff that would have broke the brains of about all but two of my engineering professors. I am mostly interested in ideas for teaching more effectively for my children. On the specialize vs breadth topic. Breadth is important and my school did it wrong. All the bread...
[20:07:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:2) 02Just about everything posted so far is off-topic - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 519 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:07:47] <exec> 08└─The whole point of the article seems not to be about deciding emotionally charged issues, which everyone here seems to be arguing about. It is about taking problems and solving them -- and learing how to do this and improve them rather than following them like an automaton. And to start doing this r...
[20:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Political Correctness... - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:51] <exec> 08└─Cute. Are you like what, 7 year old?
[20:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Authoritarians - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:01] <exec> 08└─Thank you, excellent book!
[20:10:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Term Limits for Marriage - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:53] <exec> 08└─> Oddly, my preferences seem to align fairly well (but not 100%) with positions taken by men's rights activists I've come across. Anyone who has read your rants over the last year+ will not find that odd at all.
[20:11:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The other side of the story - 06Hackers Reportedly Leak Nearly 10 GB of Ashley Madison ("Cheating Site") Files - 468 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:11:19] <exec> 08└─> Oh well, I'm officially becoming celebate, and have already made my appointment for the clinic. Celebate good times, come on! (Let's celebate) Celebate good times, come on! (Let's celebate) There's a party goin' on right here A celebation to last throughout the years So bring your good times, and...
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[21:05:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02you're reading it wrong - 06Meteorite Impacts on Ancient Oceans May Have Created DNA Building Blocks on Earth - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:05:30] <exec> 08└─inorganic compounds + high velocity + impact = amino acids The general idea seems to be that life can be created by orbital bombardment with ordinary rocks.
[21:05:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:you're reading it wrong - 06Meteorite Impacts on Ancient Oceans May Have Created DNA Building Blocks on Earth - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:05:31] <exec> 08└─The secret really is to bang the rocks together! But you have to do it with so much force that the rocks have to be thrown FROM SPACE.
[21:05:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Jared Fogle not encouraged to be a brand - 06What Is a Rock Star Programmer? - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:05:43] <exec> 08└─15-year-old footlong
[21:05:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Here are a few. Hiring them can be hard to do. - 06What Is a Rock Star Programmer? - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:05:45] <exec> 08└─Jim Gray, his life's work was database transactions? So in his entire career, he memorized the handful of SQL statements related to committing transactions on a database? This guy sounds like he was a total loser, who could only do one simple thing, and he never bothered learning anything else. If h...
[21:05:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Here are a few. Hiring them can be hard to do. - 06What Is a Rock Star Programmer? - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:05:47] <exec> 08└─One of the people who helped design and define what we call a relational database? And you consider that 'memorized a few sql statments'? I would not hire you either.
[21:05:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Here are a few. Hiring them can be hard to do. - 06What Is a Rock Star Programmer? - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:05:49] <exec> 08└─YHBT HAND
[21:05:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Will the Real H.R. Please Stand Up? - 06What Is a Rock Star Programmer? - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:05:50] <exec> 08└─According to Chocano, posting a listing for a job for which only ''rock stars'' need apply casts an H.R. manager as a kind of corporate Svengali; "That nobody is looking for a front-end developer who is addicted to heroin or who bites the heads off doves in conference rooms goes without saying.
[21:05:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Hey! (Hey!) You! (You!) - 06What Is a Rock Star Programmer? - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:05:52] <exec> 08└─Get off-a my cloud! [openstack.org]
[21:05:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hey! (Hey!) You! (You!) - 06What Is a Rock Star Programmer? - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:05:54] <exec> 08└─I don't like your girlfriend No way no way I think you need a new one
[21:05:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02What makes a rock star - 06What Is a Rock Star Programmer? - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:05:56] <exec> 08└─Pretty much anyone can be a ''rock star'' these days — except actual rock stars, who are encouraged to think of themselves as brands."
[21:05:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03mr_mischief [4884] (Score:2) 02Re:What makes a rock star - 06What Is a Rock Star Programmer? - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:05:57] <exec> 08└─This is exactly right. If you're in HR you're not in A&R. Current rock stars are either booked on contracts by name. Future rock stars are recognized by people with knowledge of the field and groomed for greatness. Nobody's teaching how to recognize great programming in their human resources program...
[21:06:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Iain M Banks wrote of this in 1996 - 06Engineers Identify How to Keep Surfaces Dry Underwater for Months - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:03] <exec> 08└─So to be clear, you are saying that a piece of science fiction where a security precaution/sabotage (I couldn't tell from your quote) is the same as predicting that a new technique which can be used to keep surfaces dry even when under water? Uhh... how did you jump to this conclusion?
[21:06:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Placebo - 06Female Libido Pill Approved by FDA, With Caveats - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:31] <exec> 08└─Not everyone experiences the side effects and there will be variety in the magnitude of positive outcomes as well. Do you expect the rich white women or the for-profit pharmaceutical company to help the developing world?
[21:06:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Antifeatures in proprietary software - 06Previously “Hidden” 1080p Xbox Streaming Officially Launches Today on Windows 10 - 833 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:48] <exec> 08└─Yes, and Intel does the same thing with their i3-i5-i7 processors... shipping the same hardware and using software to disable features of the cheaper lines. (At least that's my recollection back when the fury of them introducing the idea was brought up.) AMD does it too, based on what I've heard abo...
[21:07:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What is critical thinking? - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:41] <exec> 08└─> It's an easy primer topic. For a philosophy class. Not for a civil war history class.
[21:07:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What is critical thinking? - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:42] <exec> 08└─I was with you up to this point. Why choose such a charged topic? Doing so will reinforce the idea that dissenting positions are simply not worth sympathising with.
[21:08:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] (Score:2) 02Re:Faculty/admin first - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 449 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:12] <exec> 08└─I disagree that humans are inherently lazy. Humans are inherently not altruistic, so sometimes that manifests as "I'm not working for you unless I get something out of it." But people who work for pride, or for seeing accomplishments, or for a respectable paycheck, they will work very hard. Some tea...
[21:08:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Just about everything posted so far is off-topi - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:14] <exec> 08└─TFA is either really poor, or was intended as a joke. Where are the author's examples of an inability of citizens to think critically, so we at least can tell WTF he's talking about? Instead, he gives us multiple colored sidebars and irrelevant anecdotes about logic puzzles given to students which m...
[21:08:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:OMG Chemicals! - 06Chemists Suffer from Chemophobia-Phobia - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:36] <exec> 08└─Essentially, you're just saying that everything they know and understand is worthless.
[21:08:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02positive portrayal - 06Chemists Suffer from Chemophobia-Phobia - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:08:43] <exec> 08└─Breaking Bad has perhaps helped create public perceptions of chemistry as something powerful, important, and worth learning.
[21:09:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:buzzword intolerance - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:59] <exec> 08└─"I was elected to LEAD not to READ"!
[21:14:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:We've got to do better - 06White House Announces Heroin Response Strategy for the US Northeast - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:48] <exec> 08└─But would decriminalization of those drugs raise their rates of use? Not necessarily.
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[22:05:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03seeprime [5580] (Score:2) 02Just about any way to create life will do so - 06Meteorite Impacts on Ancient Oceans May Have Created DNA Building Blocks on Earth - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:05:30] <exec> 08└─There are a lot of different ways to create "life" in the lab. Maybe that's why there are so many different forms of life on our planet. I'm not God, so I'm not sure about that.
[22:05:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just about any way to create life will do so - 06Meteorite Impacts on Ancient Oceans May Have Created DNA Building Blocks on Earth - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:05:31] <exec> 08└─You're supposed to use a condom when you sleep with your students.
[22:05:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03skullz [2532] (Score:2) 02Re:What makes a rock star - 06What Is a Rock Star Programmer? - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:05:54] <exec> 08└─or hire recruiters who actually have enough skill in the field to spot new rock-star level talent
[22:05:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Locust-Of-Control [5815] (Score:3, Funny) 02This... - 06What Is a Rock Star Programmer? - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:05:55] <exec> 08└─Is a Rockstar Programmer [github.com]
[22:06:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03jummama [3969] (Score:1) 02Automotive applications? - 06Engineers Identify How to Keep Surfaces Dry Underwater for Months - 707 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:06:07] <exec> 08└─I'm thinking this could be great for coolant hoses, internal coolant passages and fuel lines. Given that it's trapping air, it might not be great for hydraulic systems such as brakes and steering, but it might be an insignificant enough amount that I'm wrong there. If it doesn't cause problems with...
[22:07:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Re:Flowers for Algernon - 06Scientists Investigating Brain Disorders Engineer Unusually Intelligent Mice - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:20] <exec> 08└─The text can be found all over the net for free. It's a brilliant story.
[22:07:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Wootery [2341] 02Re:What is critical thinking? - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 159 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:38] <exec> 08└─The teacher needs to present both the argument "slavery is evil" and the argument "slavery was a net benefit to blacks", and both of them with equal sincerity.
[22:07:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:What is critical thinking? - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 785 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:46] <exec> 08└─That's actually how we approached the Civil War in my US history class. That way the class understands that the war did not start over slavery, but States rights. The Southerners understood that slavery was wrong, but their banking system and entire economy was based around owning your labor force....
[22:08:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hawkwind [3531] (Score:2) 02Re:Faculty/admin first - 06A Successful Strategy to Get College Students Thinking Critically - 666 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:08:17] <exec> 08└─You may be interested in New Tech Network [newtechnetwork.org]. The one in my community worked out quite well for one of my kids. I was also able to see first hand the kids thinking through questions in their oral presentations by being on presenter panels. The group projects also seemed like a grea...
[22:10:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Authoritarians - 06The Psychological Allure of Hating Political Correctness - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:34] <exec> 08└─in the survival of your country's democracy. Which country you happen to live in is irrelevant.
[22:12:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03skullz [2532] (Score:2) 02Re:Unfinished products - 06Botched Google Stagefright Fix Won't be Resolved Until September - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:12:12] <exec> 08└─"Design your software properly and then test the hell out of it before shipping"
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