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[00:37:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''it is all phone and radio for [old people]'' - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 558 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:37:17] <exec> 08└─Must be nice. I'll assume those folks like Reactionary talk radio. Most people of a certain age can't find music they like via broadcast media. There are 3 "Country" music stations here in the L.A. area. What all of them play is Top40 pop music with a bit of twang. I have tried listening and they ne...
[00:37:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''anti-virus'' - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:37:21] <exec> 08└─Your brother needs a better tech support guy. One who knows there is an OS that doesn't require anti-virus would be a good start. -- gewg_
[00:37:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:''anti-virus'' - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:37:23] <exec> 08└─If you've never seen a Linux virus, you're either 12 years old or you're a goddamn idiot.
[00:37:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02So? - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 437 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:37:24] <exec> 08└─So what? If they really need to get online they can you know. Public libraries across the nation have free labs PCs. We are a very rural area and have more than two dozen machines at five locations in our one small parish. You can buy tablets now for less than $50 and get free WiFi all over the plac...
[00:37:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Sigh. My ex - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:37:26] <exec> 08└─If she hadn't used the internet she wouldn't be my ex :(
[00:37:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sigh. My ex - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:37:28] <exec> 08└─Sometimes, there are just so many ways to interpret a post, . . . Nah, don't even want to know.
[00:37:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sigh. My ex - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:37:29] <exec> 08└─She discovered she could buy vibrators online and decided she didn't need a husband anymore.
[00:38:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:Which is cheaper? - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 445 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:38:03] <exec> 08└─You're talking about a city that's over 3,000 miles from where I live. You're also talking about a sea level rise that won't affect me, my kids, my parents, nor anybody I know. You're talking maybes and ifs. To balance that you want me to spend extra money now to avoid something that may or may not...
[00:38:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Which is cheaper? - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 922 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:38:04] <exec> 08└─There's another easy way to absorb CO2 from the atmosphere: it's called "planting a tree". Plant lots of trees, and you'll absorb huge amounts of CO2. Of course, the trees eventually die and fall over and the CO2 is released, but while they're alive they make seeds and those grow into even more new...
[00:38:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:Only greener if power plant is green - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:38:14] <exec> 08└─Driving an electric car is better for the environment only if your electric power is generated by a clean power plant.
[00:38:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Counter point (or punch?) from Detroit - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 2009 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:38:16] <exec> 08└─http://www.autoextremist.com/current/2015/8/3/subterranean-motor-city-blues.html [autoextremist.com] This week the Autoextremist presents his version of Bob Dylan's “Subterranean Homesick Blues” -- scroll down for the last two lines, very clever... SUBTERRANEAN MOTOR CITY BLUES Sergio's in the b...
[00:38:29] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Jiro [3176] 02Market - 06White Hats Don't Want to Work for Understaffed FBI - 383 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:38:30] <exec> 08└─Generally the answer to "we can't find anyone to work at this pay grade for this level of working conditions" is "increase the pay and improve the working conditions". Even the FBI is subject to the market. ("Invasive recruitment processes" count as working conditions here. The more hassle people ha...
[00:38:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Market - 06White Hats Don't Want to Work for Understaffed FBI - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:38:36] <exec> 08└─-1 Stupid. Most employers in the private sector don't pry into your personal life, and really don't care what you do on your own time. As long as you don't have a serious criminal record, they just want people who can do the job reliably and will fit in with the other employees. The only employers w...
[00:39:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03miljo [5757] 02No Correlation Between Pay and Performance - 06Some Boards Listen to CEO "Say on Pay" Shareholder Votes - 454 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:39:47] <exec> 08└─Why anyone would agree to an exorbitant salary for a CEO is beyond me, since pay-for-performance is largely a myth. http://www.bloomberg.com [bloomberg.com] http://www.forbes.com
[00:40:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02not trustworthy - 06Rackspace and Others Planning to Share Security Information - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:40:38] <exec> 08└─if there is one thing i don't trust, it's "trusted computing" because it's designed for corporate abuse. [wikipedia.org]
[00:40:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02perhaps would would enjoy it were you to Read - 06Rackspace and Others Planning to Share Security Information - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:40:39] <exec> 08└─The Fine Manual [osxbook.com]. FTFY
[00:41:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Lot of potential - 06No More Google+, They Finally Got the Hint - 659 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:41:54] <exec> 08└─I dunno, I quite identify with what Common Joe is saying. These days it is weird if you don't have a social media presence. It's as weird as if you tell people you don't do email. That said, I follow the principle of Minimum Correct Thing (MCT) on social media. I disclose as little as possible on so...
[00:41:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Lot of potential - 06No More Google+, They Finally Got the Hint - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:42:00] <exec> 08└─More than that, they want to know where you stand in the web of your social connections. If you fit the profile of an influencer for those you know, advertisers will target you even more.
[00:42:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Journalists and maths are natural enemies - 06Chinese Factory Replaces 90% of Humans With Robots, Production Soars - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:42:35] <exec> 08└─"Data shows that since the robots came to the factory, the defect rate of products has dropped from over 25 percent to less than 5 percent and the production capacity from more than 8,000 pieces per person per month increased to 21,000 pieces." ??
[00:42:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:your answer here - 06Chinese Factory Replaces 90% of Humans With Robots, Production Soars - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:42:54] <exec> 08└─No profit in it.
[00:42:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:your answer here - 06Chinese Factory Replaces 90% of Humans With Robots, Production Soars - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:42:55] <exec> 08└─If they're unemployed, they're no longer workers. Therefore less worker unrest. Besides, it's difficult for the unemployed to afford decent weapons.
[00:43:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Factories need not be in China Then - 06Chinese Factory Replaces 90% of Humans With Robots, Production Soars - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:43:22] <exec> 08└─There is no doubt in my mind that China's government run physical infrastructure probably rivals our own, today.
[00:43:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Oblig. xkcd. - 06Technologists Control the World We Live in — and Artists Are Worried - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:43:45] <exec> 08└─"I have some old word processing documents from the DOS days that I can no longer open" Dosbox?
[00:44:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:Haha, great hack! - 06The Bestseller Book that Didn't Exist - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:44:51] <exec> 08└─"If you can't beat 'em, beat 'em up." -- Fred Roggin
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[01:37:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03GoonDu [2623] (Score:2) 02Wonderfood? - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:37:03] <exec> 08└─I've heard of wonderful things about this 'soylent', most 'wonderful' thing about this is apparently people think clearer and has better focus so I wonder what is people's takes on this. Food science maybe relatively well-known but it's how nutrient contributes to human development is still an activ...
[01:37:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03tynin [2013] (Score:2) 02Re:Wonderfood? - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:37:04] <exec> 08└─I did feel more aware when I was using Soylent... more aware of how much more flatulence and stomach cramps I had. For the think clearer / focus, I seem to get the same effects from fish oil (omega3).
[01:37:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02No! We don't want your f*****g BETA! - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:37:06] <exec> 08└─Another FPOS Dice Holdings-inspired, Flash-addled, JavaScript and CSS disaster being shoved down our collective Oh, wait. Never mind.
[01:37:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02but how does Soylent promote feminist revenge? - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:37:07] <exec> 08└─Is Soylent packaged in penis shaped bars so every woman can gleefully imagine herself chewing off the dicks of her male oppressors?
[01:37:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Who knew? - 06Physicists Announce Graphene's Latest Cousin: Stanene - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:37:20] <exec> 08└─Tin could be made into a thin sheet? Oh wait, are they saying it may be a room temperature superconductor?
[01:37:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:much more to life - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 1596 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:37:30] <exec> 08└─I occasionally contemplate cutting the cord, at least for a while. The internet is the new TV in a lot of ways. Back in 1990, I took care of my mom while she died. At the end, the only thing that was left for her was watching TV. I sat there with her while her last minutes got fed to commercials and...
[01:37:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:''anti-virus'' - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 743 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:37:38] <exec> 08└─Well, I have never seen a Linux box that was pwned by a drive-by infection. Haven't see one mentioned in any of the several Linux forums I visit either. A proper permissions paradigm averts most of the nonsense that afflicts Windoze. Closing the holes QUICKLY takes care of the rest. As an example, H...
[01:37:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Sigh. My ex - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:37:43] <exec> 08└─She discovered there are easier ways to get money than to fuck a single guy.
[01:37:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sigh. My ex - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:37:45] <exec> 08└─She discovered not all men wear and Atari shirt and adult diapers during sex.
[01:37:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:Sigh. My ex - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:37:46] <exec> 08└─If she hadn't used the internet she wouldn't be my ex :(
[01:37:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Internet vs Othernet - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:37:48] <exec> 08└─They don't know about othernet yet? Hilarious.
[01:38:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:All it takes - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 605 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:38:15] <exec> 08└─That's a real problem, but it's a sort of chicken and egg thing. If the cars aren't there, then the normal demand on the infrastructure doesn't need supplementing. Sometimes it does, but it's "uneconomical" to "overbuild" or "overmaintain". So it's a question of timing, as much as anything else. How...
[01:38:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Which is cheaper? - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 424 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:38:24] <exec> 08└─> You're also talking about a sea level rise that won't affect me, my kids, my parents, nor anybody I know. Unless you don't like your Orange Juice to taste a bit salty and you live in the kind of place South Beach [bleep] could consider for relocation. Thank you for illustrating (I call Poe's Law)...
[01:38:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03FrogBlast [21] 02Re:Only greener if power plant is green - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 233 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:38:34] <exec> 08└─Having all of my dirty socks in the hamper doesn't make my socks cleaner, but it makes my house nicer and makes it a lot easier to do the laundry when the time comes.* *This comment may not reflect my actual sock-handling procedures.
[01:38:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03zeigerpuppy [1298] (Score:2) 02Real efficiency - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 1779 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:38:37] <exec> 08└─While moving towards electric vehicles is one part of the solution to rampant CO2 emissions, there needs to be a realistic and coordinated approach. 1) the current vehicle fleet has huge amounts of embodied carbon as about half the emissions of a vehicle are in manufacture. Therefore, retro-fitting...
[01:38:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03vali.magni [5678] (Score:1) 02Change of perspective. - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 1115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:38:39] <exec> 08└─The only way to "end" the auto industry is to shift our perspective and look at the root causes. The solution proposed in the article does not end the problem of ever increasing traffic and gridlocks, ergo, wasted time and losses in productivity. The only real way to "end" the auto industry is to pr...
[01:39:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:struggling to hire computer scientists - 06White Hats Don't Want to Work for Understaffed FBI - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:39:06] <exec> 08└─Yeech, their website looks like the title screen of Police Quest III.
[01:39:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:clearance comments and tangent - 06White Hats Don't Want to Work for Understaffed FBI - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:39:21] <exec> 08└─I got a SECRET in '99, and back then it was an automated almost-instantaneous thing that pretty much anybody could have passed. Word on the street is that SECRETS are a little more difficult nowadays, though I remember the TOP SECRET guys would languish in tech-school purgatory sweeping drill pads a...
[01:40:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03vali.magni [5678] (Score:1) 02Here maps is great for offline navigation. - 06Nokia's Digital Mapping Business Bought by German Carmakers - 490 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:40:00] <exec> 08└─I love here maps when driving around Europe because of excellent offline navigation. In fact, it knows the speed limits on each stretch of the road and gives you an audible and visual indication if you are going too fast. Voice navigation has been good in general, and route recalculation is fast. Th...
[01:42:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:For social login perhaps - 06No More Google+, They Finally Got the Hint - 557 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:42:21] <exec> 08└─That's essentially creating a single point of failure, which is foolish. It's more foolish when you realize how terrible most people's passwords are, even for more important things. I wish web developers would get a clue and actually learn how to develop a website like they're supposed to know how t...
[01:42:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Lot of potential - 06No More Google+, They Finally Got the Hint - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:42:23] <exec> 08└─I dunno, I quite identify with what Common Joe is saying. These days it is weird if you don't have a social media presence.
[01:43:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Long-term future of robot production - 06Chinese Factory Replaces 90% of Humans With Robots, Production Soars - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:37] <exec> 08└─There's also the matter of having enough people able to afford buying your product.
[01:44:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Yes, no, maybe? - 06Technologists Control the World We Live in — and Artists Are Worried - 2210 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:44:31] <exec> 08└─I look at the world around me - and yes, people are far to engrossed in their electronic toys. They have been "dehumanized" to some extent, because they prefer to play with their toys, than to interact with the people around them. But, good things come from all this tech. The single best thing I can...
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[02:36:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Drunken Infidels! - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:36:57] <exec> 08└─Hangover is punishment from Allah for your shameful gluttony!
[02:36:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02My Cure - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:36:58] <exec> 08└─I don't drink... It's even better at preventing my head and subsequent day going pear-shaped...
[02:36:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:My Cure - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 8 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:37:00] <exec> 08└─-1 prude
[02:37:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02let's examine the reasons why people drink - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:37:03] <exec> 08└─1. be social with idiots 2. fit in with the trendy crowd 3. find a loose hole to fuck no thanks.
[02:37:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:but how does Soylent promote feminist revenge? - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:37:14] <exec> 08└─No, but Soylent has been known to resemble, among other things, semen. [alternet.org]
[02:37:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kell [292] (Score:2) 02Re:but how does Soylent promote feminist revenge? - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:37:15] <exec> 08└─Soylent will be known as a seminal invention in the history of gustation.
[02:37:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Textures not required - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:37:17] <exec> 08└─I guess the target market for this are all the people that do not mind having no textures in their food. Or don't have enough "stuff" to keep things in the tubes moving along. Isn't that a little bit of a problem considering that gut bacteria is kind of important to our health? https://en.wikipedia....
[02:37:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02If you want to try Soylent - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 474 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:37:18] <exec> 08└─I suggest looking at https://diy.soylent.com [soylent.com] There are some recipes that allow you to try a mix without buying a week's worth. You also can edit the recipe, which seems important for something you can live off of (everyone is different). I only replace one meal a day so I'm not as pi...
[02:37:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:''anti-virus'' - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:37:49] <exec> 08└─I use Linux on three machines and I would never wish it on a person without considerable computing skills. It's a pain to set up and a greater pain to manage. Nerds may love Linux, but normal people don't. There's a good reason it's virtually non-existent on the desktops of the world - it's the leas...
[02:37:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So? - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:37:52] <exec> 08└─We are a very rural area and have more than two dozen machines at five locations
[02:37:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sigh. My ex - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:37:58] <exec> 08└─That's what makes him such a great catch. -fetlife
[02:38:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03drussell [2678] (Score:2) 02Only 15% ?? - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 575 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:38:02] <exec> 08└─I find that statistic difficult to believe. I would think it is higher than 15% but who knows exactly who they were doing their survey on and their methodology. I know many people who don't use the internet at all for a variety of reasons. Some are elderly, some are not, (although a particularly hig...
[02:38:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03el_oscuro [1711] (Score:3, Funny) 02Who did NASA contract the network out to? - 06Pluto Findings Recap - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:38:11] <exec> 08└─Four hour latency? Even comcast isn't that bad.
[02:38:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Who did NASA contract the network out to? - 06Pluto Findings Recap - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:38:13] <exec> 08└─299,792,458 m/s is a bitch ain't it?
[02:38:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Change of perspective. - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:38:57] <exec> 08└─If YOU want to live in a sardine can of a city/flat/etc, go ahead. I don't, and I wager most others don't either outside of those who are born there and think it's the best thing in the world.
[02:39:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Market - 06White Hats Don't Want to Work for Understaffed FBI - 497 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:39:18] <exec> 08└─Posting anon, for obvious reasons. I recently applied for a job. I've been jobless for a while, since my last layoff. I was all set to interview with this company onsite. I started to fill out the online app and it says 'we are a drug-free workplace' and that means, piss test before employment. This...
[02:39:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Time and attitude. - 06White Hats Don't Want to Work for Understaffed FBI - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:39:36] <exec> 08└─very clever. very clever indeed, young man, but its turtles all the way down! -MichaelDavidCrawford
[02:41:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Not everything will come to a standstill - 06With So Much Vested in Satellites, Solar Storms Could Bring Everyday Life to a Standstill - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:41:49] <exec> 08└─My motorcycle has a carburetor. No computer.
[02:41:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Re:Not everything will come to a standstill - 06With So Much Vested in Satellites, Solar Storms Could Bring Everyday Life to a Standstill - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:41:51] <exec> 08└─So does mine. But you will need gasoline to run it. In any case, unless your motorcycle is very old, there is a computer in a little computer in there somewhere running the gauges. Mine is from 2002 and it has one.
[02:43:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't worrry! - 06No More Google+, They Finally Got the Hint - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:43:08] <exec> 08└─I'm more inclined to believe that this is a G♭ moment myself.
[02:44:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Murdoc [2518] (Score:1) 02Re:My experience - 06Chinese Factory Replaces 90% of Humans With Robots, Production Soars - 1253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:44:05] <exec> 08└─This is something I've been thinking about more over the past couple of years, that perhaps if we treated people more like machines, they'd be happier and more productive. I know, that sounds awful, but notice that I didn't say "exactly" like machines. I don't mean "do the same things to them that y...
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[03:37:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Drunken Infidels! - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:37:02] <exec> 08└─He's just mad cuz I backdoored him.
[03:37:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Drunken Infidels! - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:37:03] <exec> 08└─The best comment here in a while. Two big middle fingers up.
[03:37:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:My Cure - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:37:07] <exec> 08└─That is fascinating. I bet you don't watch TV either.
[03:37:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My Cure - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:37:08] <exec> 08└─I don't know about him, but I don't do either. Drinking, smoking, and doing drugs is for filthy normies.
[03:37:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Post-Nihilist [5672] (Score:1) 02Re:let's examine the reasons why people drink - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:37:10] <exec> 08└─enhance a mealeuphoriatemporary relief of stresstemporary relief of pain
[03:37:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:let's examine the reasons why people drink - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:37:12] <exec> 08└─2. euphoria 3. temporary relief of stress 4. temporary relief of pain
[03:37:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02The Truth - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:37:13] <exec> 08└─Drink lots of water and get a full night's sleep. Source: I am a pathological drunk.
[03:37:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Wonderfood? - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:37:22] <exec> 08└─It's mainly improving health in the US by eliminating the homeless.
[03:37:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:much more to life - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 759 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:37:54] <exec> 08└─I killed my TV in the 90s, and about two years ago, decided kill my Internet connection. Some time passed, during which, I was far more productive and had a lot more free time. One day, I decided to try to bypass my phone carrier's blocks against / detection of tethering because I was going on a tri...
[03:38:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 0215% about to be 16% - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 1527 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:38:14] <exec> 08└─Been a web developer since the early days (mid-1990s). This past couple of years I've been finding myself less inclined to use the internet or even the computer (unconnected). While it has utterly changed business, education & culture, there really isn't much value in the internet (read: 'web') for...
[03:38:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:15% about to be 16% - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:38:15] <exec> 08└─I do consult howto's online all the time. I'm also constantly looking stuff up on Wikipedia and sourcing components for my projects. The internet has a lot of value for me. I remember that kind of stuff used to be hard to find--you had to somehow hear about an enthusiasts' club if you even had anyth...
[03:38:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02My Dad - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 488 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:38:16] <exec> 08└─My dad is just beyond retirement age, and is pretty technical, having a PhD in a technical field. He wrote software (in a domain-specific language) for years at work before retiring. He doesn't use the Internet. He can definitely afford it. He definitely has the technical chops. He just doesn't. Mom...
[03:38:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:All it takes - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:38:50] <exec> 08└─I have never understood why time-of-day based electricity rates are so uncommon in the USA. They have been used for decades in the UK and many appliances include a delay timer so that they can be run at night.
[03:38:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Seaports; narrow vision - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 880 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:39:00] <exec> 08└─It sounds like you are near the West Coast where the land rises quickly as you move away from the ocean. Seaports, however, are at sea level. Most people get significant portions of what they consume via ships and seaports. As sea level rises, the port(s) that serve(s) you will have to be rebuilt--e...
[03:39:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Counter point (or punch?) from Detroit - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:39:12] <exec> 08└─Elon didn't take the handle. Old Charley stole the handle, and the train it won't stop goin'; no way to slow down.
[03:39:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fuck you phoenix666 - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:39:16] <exec> 08└─Up yours with your sanctimony.
[03:39:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Market - 06White Hats Don't Want to Work for Understaffed FBI - 876 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:39:37] <exec> 08└─random drug and alcohol tests are becoming commonplace in australia at all places of employment. even onsite contractors are required to undergo them if asked to. it's not because they give a shit about what you do outside work; they just want to make damn sure you don't bring the shit into work or...
[03:39:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Time and attitude. - 06White Hats Don't Want to Work for Understaffed FBI - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:39:59] <exec> 08└─So to get in you have to have seven degrees of separation between you and anyone suspicious?
[03:40:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Restrictions to maintain dominance? - 06China Tightens Control on Export of Drones and Supercomputers - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:40:30] <exec> 08└─it's not about money. it's about fairness dipshit
[03:40:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Restrictions to maintain dominance? - 06China Tightens Control on Export of Drones and Supercomputers - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:40:31] <exec> 08└─(oh, I see, a principled AC... so deep into the principles that s/he's blind to the realities of the former USSR - where either you complied and give to the state everything you own and the state gives you back enough to survive; or you didn't comply and the state sends you to Siberia). it's not abo...
[03:40:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Say it ain't so! - 06China Tightens Control on Export of Drones and Supercomputers - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:40:34] <exec> 08└─Google '5 eyes' and feel lucky. It doesn't include India, but last I heard Australia and Great Britain weren't a part of the US... yet. All countries spy on each other to some degree. The US has just turned it into a perverse art form.
[03:41:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just an antenna... - 06Boosting the Transfer Efficiency of Wireless Power Transfer Systems - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:41:28] <exec> 08└─At these frequencies, these are nothing more than lump inductors and are not resonant in the least: thus yagi/quad "directors" and "reflectors" are meaningless as those elements are tuned to near-resonance. Rather, this sounds like more like a passive radiator in the form of a floating inductor (pos...
[03:41:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:perhaps would would enjoy it were you to Read - 06Rackspace and Others Planning to Share Security Information - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:41:52] <exec> 08└─it's a flawed concept because the module has to be trusted by the user. [wikipedia.org] it would be rather easy for a government to force some tweaks be made to make RNG not so random. there isn't even a open hardware version of the TPM. there is no reason to trust the module.
[03:42:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Moggy [5383] (Score:1) 02Re:Seriously? - 06Ask Soylent: Good source for Practical IPv6 Training? - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:42:29] <exec> 08└─The only "oddball" - wherever you would normally change an A DNS record, change the AAAA instead (why they are different I've never worked out - MX records are the same for both).
[03:44:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Are technologists dehumanizing the world? - 06Technologists Control the World We Live in — and Artists Are Worried - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:44:58] <exec> 08└─shhh! you'll wake them!
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[04:37:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:3, Touché) 02How's this? - 06Indian Government Orders ISPs to Block 857 Porn Websites - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:37:03] <exec> 08└─A country famous for its Kamasutra bans porn. For sure, this is not ironic (much less silveric)...
[04:37:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:How's this? - 06Indian Government Orders ISPs to Block 857 Porn Websites - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:37:05] <exec> 08└─Maybe they just banned the Pakistani p0rn sites. You think they'd at least provide a list of the banned sites...you know...for scientific purposes.
[04:37:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:let's examine the reasons why people drink - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:37:22] <exec> 08└─Or you are suffering from some wickedly intense pain that the doctors won't help with, as happened to me. (OOS/RSI/tendinitis)
[04:37:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:let's examine the reasons why people drink - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:37:23] <exec> 08└─if you are drinking for one of those reasons, there is a good chance you are an alcoholic.
[04:37:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:let's examine the reasons why people drink - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 8 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:37:25] <exec> 08└─euphoria
[04:37:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:let's examine the reasons why people drink - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:37:26] <exec> 08└─Yeah, that whole interacting with people thing, it's for the birds. A little booze would do you a lot of good in chatting people up without sperging out.
[04:37:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:let's examine the reasons why people drink - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:37:28] <exec> 08└─Yeah, that whole interacting with people thing, it's for the birds.
[04:37:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Textures not required - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:37:43] <exec> 08└─Is really well blended (in a food processor) soup not a food?
[04:37:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:If you want to try Soylent - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:37:47] <exec> 08└─corrected link: Ricetopia [soylent.com]
[04:37:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02In barely-related news - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 1723 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:37:48] <exec> 08└─The founder of Soylent (the food) wrote blog post and it is the most pretentious, self-serving thing I've ever read [arstechnica.com]. I'm linking to Ars instead of his personal blog because some of the comments there are pretty good, and also I'd hate to give him more page hits. Notable highlights:...
[04:38:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Who knew? - 06Physicists Announce Graphene's Latest Cousin: Stanene - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:38:03] <exec> 08└─They are calling it a topological insulator [wikipedia.org]. Oh wait, from the Wikipedia article: Stanene is a theoretical topological insulator which may display superconductivity at its edges above room temperature.
[04:38:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:''anti-virus'' - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 1723 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:38:24] <exec> 08└─I don't think it's the least user friendly UI by a long shot. There are things I like better than OSX, though Yosemite makes it easy to like something else. For about two years ending 1.5 years ago, I had to use Windows for a while -- Win 7 to be exact and after more than a decade away, it was a tot...
[04:38:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe they're like my brother - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 1620 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:38:25] <exec> 08└─My wife has been asking for a full Windows computer, but when I finally gave her one two years ago, she never even turned it on. Why? The Android smartphone I gave her before that has been good enough for nearly all of the things she needs to do that would have otherwise needed a full computer. The...
[04:38:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Balderdash [693] (Score:1, Flamebait) 02Meh. - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:38:40] <exec> 08└─Fuck yo Fakebook, nigga.
[04:39:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:Which is cheaper? - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:39:21] <exec> 08└─Except it's more than "a couple" cities. It's Seattle, Norfolk, New Haven, Boston, Portland, Providence, New York, Baltimore, Anchorage, Miami, Tampa, Jacksonville, Charleston, New Orleans, Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco. Plus a bunch of smaller towns that I can't be bothered to list here. Pl...
[04:40:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:Market - 06White Hats Don't Want to Work for Understaffed FBI - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:40:04] <exec> 08└─Generally the answer to "we can't find anyone to work at this pay grade for this level of working conditions" is "increase the pay and improve the working conditions"
[04:40:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03dcollins [1168] (Score:2) 02Do as the Private Sector - 06White Hats Don't Want to Work for Understaffed FBI - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:40:33] <exec> 08└─Hire a bunch of H1-B visas.
[04:40:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Do as the Private Sector - 06White Hats Don't Want to Work for Understaffed FBI - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:40:34] <exec> 08└─I hear Iran has a CS program that's ripe for poaching.
[04:45:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Common Joe [33] (Score:2) 02Re:Oblig. xkcd. - 06Technologists Control the World We Live in — and Artists Are Worried - 774 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:45:36] <exec> 08└─I tried that a few years ago, but to no avail. They're PFS Write documents. It requires some funky settings in the autoexec.bat / config.sys to run. I haven't found anything open source that can update the files to something more modern. They include both graphics and text. Perhaps I should try agai...
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[05:37:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:How's this? - 06Indian Government Orders ISPs to Block 857 Porn Websites - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:37:03] <exec> 08└─You think they'd at least provide a list of the banned sites...you know...for scientific purposes.
[05:37:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:1) 02A drop in the bucket - 06Indian Government Orders ISPs to Block 857 Porn Websites - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:37:04] <exec> 08└─Indian Government Orders ISPs to Block 857 Porn Websites
[05:37:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Pls b selektv - 06Indian Government Orders ISPs to Block 857 Porn Websites - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:37:05] <exec> 08└─As long as they just ban those sites with the "naughty aunties" carrying 3 spare tires around their gut, nobody should complain -- they are doing you a favor.
[05:37:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03spamdog [4335] (Score:0, Troll) 02Good - 06Indian Government Orders ISPs to Block 857 Porn Websites - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:37:07] <exec> 08└─Indian vaginas are gross anyway
[05:37:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Religions cause violence - 06Indian Government Orders ISPs to Block 857 Porn Websites - 815 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:37:09] <exec> 08└─Maybe it is the Hindu pron that is causing the ban, but for a religion that worships a Shiva Linga, that is not especially reasonable. On the other hand, Muslim pron is probably ankle shots rather than up-kilt shots (but still possibly both, if they are of the "Peshawar School of Thought"). So that...
[05:37:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:let's examine the reasons why people drink - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:37:29] <exec> 08└─It's also possible he's been exposed to alcoholics and isn't aware that most people can enjoy the inebriating effects of alcohol on an occasional basis without being alcoholics.
[05:37:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:let's examine the reasons why people drink - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:37:30] <exec> 08└─That depends on how much and how often.
[05:37:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03riT-k0MA [88] (Score:1) 02Re:let's examine the reasons why people drink - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:37:32] <exec> 08└─According to my government's Health Department, anyone who has more than two drinks a week is an alcoholic. That pretty much covers 90% of the country.
[05:37:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:let's examine the reasons why people drink - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 837 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:37:33] <exec> 08└─Paradoxically, most depressants cause euphoria, at least as the blood level is ramping up. There is a point where the senses aren't significantly dulled but the concerns of the day are easily dismissed where it will enhance the experiance of food, music, and conversation. If the stress itself was te...
[05:37:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimios [201] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:let's examine the reasons why people drink - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 931 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:37:36] <exec> 08└─1. Sometimes socializing is required and you cannot choose the idiots you do it with. Add in a dose of social anxiety and you got a night of hurt with possibly serious repercussions down the line depending on the nature of the event. Or you could just drink a bit and act like a normal human being (f...
[05:37:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Truth - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 702 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:37:38] <exec> 08└─You are so right about the water. I recommend drinking a glass of water after every glass of booze. This prevents you from getting dehydrated. Even so, shortly before you go to bed, drink as much water as you can handle. And also swallow a pinch of salt to replace what you pissed away. Eating food a...
[05:37:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Wow - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:37:39] <exec> 08└─those given 220 ml (7.4 oz) of Korean pear juice reported reduced overall hangover symptoms compared to those in the placebo group
[05:37:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Textures not required - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:37:56] <exec> 08└─I honestly don't think I've ever had a soup that didn't have identifiable objects floating in it. I suppose bisque maybe, but that's not really something you just eat as a meal by itself.
[05:37:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:If you want to try Soylent - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:37:59] <exec> 08└─For $12 US a day I can eat real food (not counting the occasional meal out).
[05:38:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03GoonDu [2623] (Score:2) 02Re:In barely-related news - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:38:01] <exec> 08└─Most of the things he do seem to off-load his power consumption to other people instead. Technically, he s reducing his power consumption but in turns, he is pushing that responsibility to other people instead. Not sure if that really counts. That said, while it is commendable, the tone of it makes...
[05:38:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:1) 02Better editing - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:38:03] <exec> 08└─Over on a certain other site, this story was reported on without even bothering to explain what Soylent is. I was left wondering if it was made out of people, or something.
[05:38:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03hemocyanin [186] 02Re:much more to life - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 1596 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:38:27] <exec> 08└─I occasionally contemplate cutting the cord, at least for a while. The internet is the new TV in a lot of ways. Back in 1990, I took care of my mom while she died. At the end, the only thing that was left for her was watching TV. I sat there with her while her last minutes got fed to commercials and...
[05:38:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:My Dad - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:38:54] <exec> 08└─My grandfather is in his mid-80s and hasn't been online at home, ever. He's got an older computer and some games, and that's all he wants. It may as well be a supplemental Nintendo for all he cares, as long as it has Solitaire.
[05:39:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Which is cheaper? - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:39:42] <exec> 08└─Are you saying we could either spend a quadrillion dollars or each plant a tree?
[05:39:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02CARB is a plague on California! - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 911 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:39:58] <exec> 08└─So all these electric cars made with petroleum products are going to improve things how? This just shifts the pollution somewhere else and does little to reduce CO2 emissions. In a state the size of California it's going to be problematic at best to install the infrastructure needed for people to ge...
[05:39:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03EQ [1716] (Score:2) 02what about rural areas? - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:39:59] <exec> 08└─There are places where electrics are simply impossible - you need endurance, horsepower and range at a cheap price (Farm vehicles, for example). Try living in a rural area, or having a 60+ mile commute (not all that uncommon in western US cities - like the commute from Denver to CO Springs). Not eve...
[05:40:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Market - 06White Hats Don't Want to Work for Understaffed FBI - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:40:22] <exec> 08└─it's not because they give a shit about what you do outside work; they just want to make damn sure you don't bring the shit into work or have it affect your performance or safety, or safety of others around you.
[05:44:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Lot of potential - 06No More Google+, They Finally Got the Hint - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:44:06] <exec> 08└─Or you will become a "person of interest" to certain 3 letter quasi-government oranizations.
[05:44:15] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03virens [5530] 02The idea of Google+ was fine... - 06No More Google+, They Finally Got the Hint - 378 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:44:15] <exec> 08└─it was an over-aggressive and intrusive peddling that ultimately killed it. YouTube comments, Blogger photos, reviews on Android store - you name it, and the worst part that there was no way back. People are generally unhappy when something forcefully pushed on them, especially when they did not wan...
[05:44:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:The idea of Google+ was fine... - 06No More Google+, They Finally Got the Hint - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:44:17] <exec> 08└─Google does not understand that. How else can one explain how they've fucked up google maps, google forums, chrome browser etc. etc.
[05:44:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:I didn't like the interface - 06No More Google+, They Finally Got the Hint - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:44:24] <exec> 08└─Naw...naw...naw...if they'd gone with a "barebone skeleton" of a service all would be fine. Instead they've gone with the ugliest crap HTML possible.
[05:44:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't worrry! - 06No More Google+, They Finally Got the Hint - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:44:30] <exec> 08└─Nope. they'll go with "GeeWizz"
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[06:37:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Wow - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:37:46] <exec> 08└─It's called the scientific method, jackass.
[06:38:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Sensible admins avoid BIND - 06DNS Server Attacks Begin Using BIND Software Flaw - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:38:17] <exec> 08└─It has a reputation. Which is well-founded. DJBDNS is widely used and trusted, but I always just used to use maradns.
[06:39:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Academics, children! - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 996 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:39:06] <exec> 08└─Complain as much as you like about the Pets.com bubble, and the over-hyping of "Web2.0", the internet has drastically, exponentially changed the rate of exchange of information across the planet. Take it from me, who used to have to hand copy papyrus, and give it to some guy going somewhere on a shi...
[06:39:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Who did NASA contract the network out to? - 06Pluto Findings Recap - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:39:18] <exec> 08└─Light speed ought to be enough for anybody.
[06:39:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03twistedcubic [929] (Score:2) 02Re:All it takes - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:39:37] <exec> 08└─Oil and renewables would not be on equal footing if you removed incentives. The former industry has nearly a century of head starts in incentives.
[06:41:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02good prick talking - 06White Hats Don't Want to Work for Understaffed FBI - 590 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:41:04] <exec> 08└─...or just a smart ass prick who daydreams up an answer to anything so he can feed his own narcissistic ego. His therapist or shrink, Robin Williams, called him on it when talking about life experiences. How he would quote various dead people and their experiences but have none significant of his ow...
[06:43:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02No GPS. - 06With So Much Vested in Satellites, Solar Storms Could Bring Everyday Life to a Standstill - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:43:20] <exec> 08└─I still have my sextant, sight reduction tables and astral almanac as well as a decent collection of paper charts of the entire Pacific and Indian Oceans. I did OK before SatNav and GPS before 1980, so I can handle no satellite navigation.
[06:43:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nollij [4559] (Score:2) 02Re:Seriously? - 06Ask Soylent: Good source for Practical IPv6 Training? - 654 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:43:34] <exec> 08└─You must not be very well-versed in the nuances of the change. Yes, to an end-user on an iDevice, who is not concerned with security/privacy, that's all there is. Have you noticed how many security holes have been published recently where the fix/workaround is "Disable IPv6"? Or services that just d...
[06:44:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nollij [4559] (Score:2) 02Re:Lot of potential - 06No More Google+, They Finally Got the Hint - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:44:28] <exec> 08└─There was also the automatic overshare - my accountant has a GMail account. Last time I pulled it up, it AUTOMATICALLY showed various videos she "liked" on YouTube. Most were political, and would not be professional to link to a business. I'm certain she has no idea the two were connected.
[06:45:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nollij [4559] (Score:2) 02Re:Factories need not be in China Then - 06Chinese Factory Replaces 90% of Humans With Robots, Production Soars - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:45:53] <exec> 08└─So, when you go to WalMart, and pick up brand "X", and it falls apart in days or weeks, it just MIGHT not be brand "X"s fault that it fell apart.
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[07:37:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02And if other people sucked a bison cock... - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:37:04] <exec> 08└─...would you? Of course you would. The best possible outcome is you die by drowning in jizz, but what a selfie that would make! The lesson is: be a moron. Follow the sucking crowd. You know you want to. Moron.
[07:37:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:A drop in the bucket - 06Indian Government Orders ISPs to Block 857 Porn Websites - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:23] <exec> 08└─You joke but this has become a real problem for people like me who are single and in India. Hygienic prostitutes are extremely expensive and don't provide good service either.
[07:37:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Religions cause violence - 06Indian Government Orders ISPs to Block 857 Porn Websites - 655 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:28] <exec> 08└─It was the "shiva Lingham", wasn't it? Center of the universe, and so big, and hard! (lingam=stone) I am cumming to the conclusion that all religion is about sex, and the controlling of women (and young boys like MikeeUSA) for sexual purposes. But you know, really, it doesn't matter who the genetic...
[07:37:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Religions cause violence - 06Indian Government Orders ISPs to Block 857 Porn Websites - 1159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:30] <exec> 08└─I wish you were right. India of today has got nothing to do with Hinduism as it has been popularized in the West. Kama Sutra [wikipedia.org] was a lost textbook, before British translated the sexy chapters and popularized it. Khajuraho [wikipedia.org] was a set of temples barely surviving the onslau...
[07:37:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Religions cause violence - 06Indian Government Orders ISPs to Block 857 Porn Websites - 575 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:31] <exec> 08└─Ough! I love the irony of the Cuban Cigar 11 (a pseudonym, no doubt?) lecturing us on Hindu culture! Cuba Libre!! as everyone is saying these days. But it is true that Hindu culture experienced at least two major prudish shocks: the first that of Islam, and the Second of Victorian England. I am no...
[07:37:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Religions cause violence - 06Indian Government Orders ISPs to Block 857 Porn Websites - 1504 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:33] <exec> 08└─I wish you were right. India of today has got nothing to do with Hinduism from 1000 years ago, as it has been popularized in the West. Kama Sutra was a lost textbook, before British translated the sexy chapters and popularized it. Khajuraho [wikipedia.org] was a set of temples barely surviving the o...
[07:37:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Drunken Infidels! - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:44] <exec> 08└─Well, apparently it's punishment for not eating enough pears before drinking alcohol.
[07:37:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My Cure - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:49] <exec> 08└─You mean, the TV programme is so bad that you inevitably start drinking to compensate for it, therefore anyone who doesn't drink can't be watching TV?
[07:37:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My Cure - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:51] <exec> 08└─I drink a lot. I just avoid alcohol. I'm pretty sure that's more healthy than not drinking at all. ;-)
[07:38:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:let's examine the reasons why people drink - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:03] <exec> 08└─Technically true.
[07:38:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wow - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:09] <exec> 08└─I have no idea what AC was attempting to highlight, but from what's been quoted we're not sure how well the scientific method has been applied. How was it double-blinded? Was it randomised? How was the self-reporting of the perceived affects done? How big was the study, and what was its power of the...
[07:39:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:''anti-virus'' - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 1123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:39:11] <exec> 08└─It's not the user interface that's a problem - that's pretty much like any other. It's the fact that if anything goes wrong, it is very difficult for the average person to fix. Any help online starts with "open a terminal and type...", which is a kind of archaic, DOS-like approach to solving problem...
[07:40:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Prerequisite: mentality change - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 889 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:40:32] <exec> 08└─Your points are mostly well taken, but I think you are way off on the idea of public transportation in American cities. The last time I visited the US, we (of course) rented a car. It was entirely normal for us to drive 30-45 minutes from my cousin's house to go, well, anywhere. To go out to eat, to...
[07:44:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Seriously? - 06Ask Soylent: Good source for Practical IPv6 Training? - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:04] <exec> 08└─The only "oddball" - ...
[07:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03ThePhilips [5677] (Score:1) 02Re:I didn't like the interface - 06No More Google+, They Finally Got the Hint - 1274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:13] <exec> 08└─Ugly I could have oversaw - if the service offered something tad bit more functionality than "twitter on steroids". Plug-ins for editing the posts and non-plain-text posts would have been a good start. That, of course, before the repeal of the "real name" policy. The sorting of comments was the mo...
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[08:37:15] <exec> 08└─I think this is a fantastic project and seeing the kids in the video playing with the prosthetic and starting to build onto it is amazing. How long until all the children are envious of the amputee while they're stuck with their boring organic appendages? Maybe they can build themselves a LEGO "powe...
[08:37:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Religions cause violence - 06Indian Government Orders ISPs to Block 857 Porn Websites - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:37:34] <exec> 08└─I have no idea what you are talking about man. Could you please take some time to elaborate? I mean, in general I have seen most of your posts - you really need to start elaborating.
[08:37:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Religions cause violence - 06Indian Government Orders ISPs to Block 857 Porn Websites - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:37:38] <exec> 08└─I find it hilarious how the supposedly allmighty being is interested most in what two consenting people do in the privacy of their bed room...
[08:37:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Religions cause violence - 06Indian Government Orders ISPs to Block 857 Porn Websites - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:37:40] <exec> 08└─Its not the god, but the culture brigade that thinks sex is a crime women let men do because they are too innocent. Its fubar.
[08:38:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Truth - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:38:13] <exec> 08└─We've done this before here: https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org] The only cure that actually works is... opiates. Sadly. Water doesn't come close.
[08:38:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Better editing - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:38:39] <exec> 08└─Over on a certain other site
[08:39:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Academics, children! - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:39:38] <exec> 08└─Those 15% are most likely not academics. And I'm pretty sure that there are more than 15% of the population who never visited an university library, and we don't consider that a problem, do we? Yes, the internet is a great thing. But that doesn't mean that everyone must use it. GPS is also a great t...
[08:39:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Why? - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:39:40] <exec> 08└─despite efforts by the government and social service organizations to encourage Americans to get online
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[08:40:43] <exec> 08└─You're absolutely right that many cities have been set up with hopelessly sprawled infrastructure. I'm not sure there's much that can be done in the short term about that. However, people do gravitate to well designed urban centers. It's also possible that light, electric, self driving vehicles may...
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[09:37:24] <exec> 08└─I, for one, welcome the Autocrat of Ceres. What's that? There is no Autocrat of Ceres, and there never will be? Everyone is planning to sit on their fat stupid asses on this ball of dirt we call the Earth until the Charonians eat us all? Well then. If humans want to be totally insignificant on the c...
[09:37:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02what a shame - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:37:34] <exec> 08└─It's too bad these idiots survived. I mean, the world was almost rid of their stupidity but someone just had to help them instead of letting nature take it's course. *sigh*
[09:37:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Even domesticated breeds aren't tame - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 358 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:37:35] <exec> 08└─Even domestic animals shouldn't be trifled with. We just had a German woman here in Switzerland get killed by a cow. The woman approached the cow on a hiking path, the cow had a calf with it and felt threatened. That, as they say, was that. Likely, the woman didn't even do anything really wrong, oth...
[09:37:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:2) 02Re:Even domesticated breeds aren't tame - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:37:37] <exec> 08└─Even domestic animals shouldn't be trifled with
[09:37:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marco2G [5749] (Score:1) 02Re:Even domesticated breeds aren't tame - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:37:38] <exec> 08└─I didn't even hear about that. One thing makes me wonder, though: Why mention that she was German? Does Germany not have any cows? I'd expect they have more than we do, given that the country is way larger than ours.
[09:37:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03xav [5579] (Score:1) 02On the other hand... - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:37:40] <exec> 08└─... it's ok if the bison wants to take a selfie with you. No need to run.
[09:38:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Religions cause violence - 06Indian Government Orders ISPs to Block 857 Porn Websites - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:38:07] <exec> 08└─Just stick to the first question. What do you know about Hindu religion? Why would you think that westerners have had some influence on view of sexuality in India? That is all. Ignore all the recent Netflix pron stuff.
[09:38:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02It's a start - 06Indian Government Orders ISPs to Block 857 Porn Websites - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:38:10] <exec> 08└─Now if only we could block all those stupid censored Japanese spam sites with the same old lame obfuscated videos under eleventy bazillion different titles, we'd be getting somewhere.
[09:38:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrNemesis [1582] (Score:2) 02Re:let's examine the reasons why people drink - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 513 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:38:36] <exec> 08└─Is that really an either/or thing though...? Lived with an alcoholic (of the actually-completely-addicted-and-dependany variety, not the seemingly american "drinks too much" variety), had a great deal of fun watching a good friend drink himself to death and I was one of the people that found the bod...
[09:39:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No! We don't want your f*****g BETA! - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:39:03] <exec> 08└─damn that was good i was thinking similar, but i couldn't have said it better kudos!
[09:39:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:In barely-related news - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:39:15] <exec> 08└─the tone of it makes him sound like a entitled privileged person who sees himself above mere plebeians like us
[09:39:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Better editing - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:39:18] <exec> 08└─Show some respect for the dead.
[09:39:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Better editing - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:39:19] <exec> 08└─Voldemort!
[09:39:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrNemesis [1582] (Score:2) 02Have to agree with El Reg on this one - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 708 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:39:21] <exec> 08└─Is preparing and eating regular food, as opposed to a nutritious gloop, really so burdensome? As another poster pointed out, $12 a day is plenty for simple staples and fresh veg, at least where I shop anyway, and have the benefit of taste and texture. Other dietary staples have historically been pro...
[09:39:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Be careful... - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:39:23] <exec> 08└─... don't overdose on the news!
[09:39:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sensible admins avoid BIND - 06DNS Server Attacks Begin Using BIND Software Flaw - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:39:31] <exec> 08└─pfft. real sysadmins use /etc/hosts!
[09:39:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Doesn't surprise me. - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:39:54] <exec> 08└─What on earth do they need the internet for?
[09:41:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Poor buggy whip industry! - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:41:36] <exec> 08└─I propose a 2 minutes silence...
[09:42:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Market - 06White Hats Don't Want to Work for Understaffed FBI - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:42:01] <exec> 08└─If someone is doing a bad job, fire *them*.
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[10:38:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03No Respect [991] (Score:2) 02Wait a second... - 06NASA's Ceres Maps Show Color-Coded Features and New Official, Mythical Names - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:38:00] <exec> 08└─So that $50 I paid in February to have a star named after someone and get a sweet certificate is not authentic and official? I mean, they advertise multiple times a day in the NYC area. They wouldn't scam me, would they? It's not like they could afford those ads for years on end if they weren't legi...
[10:38:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Even domesticated breeds aren't tame - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 1098 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:38:13] <exec> 08└─Common sense but, based on my own experience: Cows are nice, and some can be trusted to an extend (there is some variation as well between different breeds). For unknown animals, avoid turning your back on them. And do not trust them at all when they are with calves. You CAN actually fight them off...
[10:38:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Even domesticated breeds aren't tame - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:38:15] <exec> 08└─Wait a second there, professor. Are you saying animals that weigh over a thousand pounds can be dangerous? But how is it even possible??
[10:38:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Hey! Where's khallow? - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 462 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:38:17] <exec> 08└─The one I heard was that a Bison gored a French tourist with a camera. (wait for it!) And I didn't even know that Bison carried cameras!! Oh, ho, so funny. Did I ever tell you about when I was on Safari in Africa (Groucho Marx here)? I once shot an elephant in my pajamas! How he got into my pajama...
[10:38:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Redundant) 02Fuck the GNU Project - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:38:19] <exec> 08└─Take a selfie with a penguin instead. Tux the penguin is always cool. Linux forever!
[10:38:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Roll on IPV6? - 06Indian Government Orders ISPs to Block 857 Porn Websites - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:38:53] <exec> 08└─Perhaps this will move India to IPv6?
[10:39:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondrake [2658] (Score:2) 02Re:let's examine the reasons why people drink - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:39:23] <exec> 08└─Why would that be? If one can avoid a burnout by drinking once a month (or even more often), I do not see anything wrong with that. I am not sure about your definition of an alcoholic, but I would say addiction needs to be part of it (and no, an addiction is not a habit).
[10:39:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03xav [5579] (Score:1) 02Re:let's examine the reasons why people drink - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:39:30] <exec> 08└─4. Tongue disinfection after 3.
[10:39:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03xav [5579] (Score:2, Interesting) 02What's your favorite hangover cure? - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:39:37] <exec> 08└─For mild drinks (wine, beer) I usually drink as much glasses of water that I drank glasses of alcool, and I never have any hangover. What is especially interesting in this news, is that Korean pear juice apparently lowers the blood alcohol levels. It's quite handy when you have to drive.
[10:40:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Have to agree with El Reg on this one - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:40:08] <exec> 08└─and have the benefit of taste and texture. ... There should be a new SN poll recommending me some interesting dishes...
[10:40:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Who knew? - 06Physicists Announce Graphene's Latest Cousin: Stanene - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:40:30] <exec> 08└─Oh wait, are they saying it may be a room temperature superconductor?
[10:42:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03geb [529] (Score:2) 02Re:Well, it's inevitable. - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 500 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:42:11] <exec> 08└─If you'd asked me at any point over the last ten years, I would have confidently predicted that the future was biofuel derived from algae, that hydrogen for automotive use was a fucking stupid idea because it's so difficult to transport and store, and that electric vehicles would be forever crippled...
[10:42:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Market - 06White Hats Don't Want to Work for Understaffed FBI - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:42:57] <exec> 08└─Quote a short sentence about recruitment practices. Spend 95% of response in a weird rant about keynesianism. Pet peeve much? "Yeah I agree, the bear population is indeed a problem. By the way, where's the birth certificate?"
[10:42:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Market - 06White Hats Don't Want to Work for Understaffed FBI - 914 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:42:58] <exec> 08└─Take it as an indicator; it will not be the only obviously irrational cargo cult corp management decision you will encounter there. I guess if you just want to "just work there", it's fine, but I don't see that kind of firm being competent and I don't anymore want to work for a dysfunctional company...
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[11:38:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wait a second... - 06NASA's Ceres Maps Show Color-Coded Features and New Official, Mythical Names - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:38:02] <exec> 08└─That's what happens when you live in a free-market capitalist society of idiots.
[11:38:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Re:Even domesticated breeds aren't tame - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:38:17] <exec> 08└─Actually, I think the point was the she was from Berlin, i.e., a city girl. Dunno if it was relevant or not - I don't think anyone quite know what happened.
[11:38:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrNemesis [1582] (Score:2) 02Specliast Subject: The Bleedin' Obvious - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 753 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:38:22] <exec> 08└─Some other advice that park rangers should consider distributing around worldwide parks: Don't swim in crocodile/alligator-infested waters Outside can be cold (depending on weather); use clothes to retain warmth When camping make sure you take the number of not just one but two pizza delivery compan...
[11:38:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Yellowstone and the Animals - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 1677 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:38:24] <exec> 08└─I grew up in the Rockies north of Yellowstone and went there quite a lot as a kid and young man. In high school a friend and I did a trip down there and went through the north entrance because we wanted to camp in the Mammoth campground near the Mammoth hot springs and limestone terraces [shannontec...
[11:38:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Evolution - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:38:25] <exec> 08└─Darwin at work. Let them kill themselves, the gene pool is healthier for it.
[11:38:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Twits the world over - 06Indian Government Orders ISPs to Block 857 Porn Websites - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:39:00] <exec> 08└─When you've got a problem with your government, do you petition your government for redress of grievances? NO! You bitch about it on Twitter and Reddit!!!! GeorgeWashington @gman The King is a real jerk and can stick his tea taxes. #donttreadonmebro
[11:40:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score:2) 02*gloat gloat* - 06DNS Server Attacks Begin Using BIND Software Flaw - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:40:26] <exec> 08└─* Subsentient does the "I don't use BIND, neener neener" dance *
[11:42:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Which is cheaper? - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:42:14] <exec> 08└─Bamboo grows faster and is a really versatile source of material inputs. You can make flooring with it, build whole houses with it, make paper with it, eat it, and even spin its fibers into tough, silky yarn.
[11:42:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Read the words and hear what they imply - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:42:21] <exec> 08└─Building a lot of solar would also create a lot of jobs that can't be outsourced. In the United States they spend something like $360 billion per year on foreign oil. If that money were spent in the US it would be like a major economic stimulus package every year.
[11:43:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Spook brat [775] 02Re:struggling to hire computer scientists - 06White Hats Don't Want to Work for Understaffed FBI - 1270 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:43:11] <exec> 08└─Yes, they do direct hire. They had a booth at my University's job fair the year I graduated, and were looking to recruit field agents. Yes, there's a job list: https://www.fbijobs.gov [fbijobs.gov] There are field agent positions in all major cities across the U.S., and some overseas postings at em...
[11:44:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Here maps is great for offline navigation. - 06Nokia's Digital Mapping Business Bought by German Carmakers - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:44:18] <exec> 08└─Worth to mention that the apps do support traffic information, but obviously you have to be online for that to work. Still, the map-data can be downloaded in forehand.
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[12:37:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Why would I want that? - 06Apple Wants Siri to be Your New Receptionist - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:00] <exec> 08└─Why would I want to convert voice to text, thereby possibly introducing subtle errors as well as throwing away any non-verbal information that may be contained in the message? If someone wanted to leave me a text message, he'd know how to do that.
[12:37:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Why would I want that? - 06Apple Wants Siri to be Your New Receptionist - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:37:01] <exec> 08└─It's searchable, and messages can be reviewed without bothering others (like in a meeting, or in a noisy environment). There's also no reason you can't keep the audio as an attachment. There are other providers that have been doing this stuff for years, this is just Apple playing catch-up. It really...
[12:37:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Dear Apple, please make it more fun. - 06Apple Wants Siri to be Your New Receptionist - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:02] <exec> 08└─With this product and a projector directed at a suitably large building, passers-by could read transcripts of interesting messages that arrive on one's mobile. However, consider how much more entertaining it would be were it voice-to-text-to-voice, with Max Headroom [youtube.com] reading the transcr...
[12:37:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Willing partners? - 06Caterpillar Chemical Turns Ants Into Bodyguards - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:11] <exec> 08└─I don't think an ant has a free will. Their brains are simply not sufficiently complex. The caterpillar surely doesn't act out of free will either.
[12:38:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Religions cause violence - 06Indian Government Orders ISPs to Block 857 Porn Websites - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:38:14] <exec> 08└─Well, God created the humans exactly so he could watch them doing stuff in their bedrooms. That's why He doesn't like porn: He simply doesn't like it if people watch existing stuff that He of course already has seen. He wants them to fuck themselves, so He gets to see something new! ;-)
[12:38:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Busy government - 06Indian Government Orders ISPs to Block 857 Porn Websites - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:18] <exec> 08└─The government could not be immediately reached for comment.
[12:38:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The list - 06Indian Government Orders ISPs to Block 857 Porn Websites - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:20] <exec> 08└─Can someone post the list? I'm, ... ahh ... just curious.
[12:39:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wow - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 995 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:39:02] <exec> 08└─That was never considered science until the 1940s. You can find many people complaining about how the scientific method began changing from comparing results to theoretical prediction to testing a null hypothesis. Think about it, the latter makes no sense, it is just a way to get any result you want...
[12:39:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Textures not required - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 727 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:39:23] <exec> 08└─Stereotypical midwestern old wives tale, canned broth to treat digestive malfunctions. The end result is you grow up associating the taste of beef broth or chicken broth with explosive vomiting and diarrhea, so it gets associated in your mind and mostly inedible. Much like "every" college student ev...
[12:39:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Textures not required - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:39:26] <exec> 08└─the target market for this
[12:40:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:much more to life - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:40:11] <exec> 08└─I still managed to learn interesting things and pick up random skills.
[12:40:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03krishnoid [1156] 02Re:Maybe they're like my brother - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 47 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:40:17] <exec> 08└─For everything else, there's the Chromebook :-)
[12:40:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Why? - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 663 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:40:44] <exec> 08└─Its an opiate of the masses. When they talk about "watching cat videos" thats a dog whistle polite company phrase for "shemale tranny pr0n on /b/" For the folks in charge that is much better than the masses awakening and becoming politically active or protesting or pretty much doing anything other t...
[12:40:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score:1) 02The minority - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 1580 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:45] <exec> 08└─One issue is the provision of mandated public services to what is now a minority of people. Should national/local government have an obligation to make their services accessible (or indeed usable) to people who are not online? It is a similar problem to provision of mandatory servies to minority lan...
[12:40:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:The minority - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:40:47] <exec> 08└─Should ... local government have an obligation to make their services accessible (or indeed usable) to people who are not online?
[12:40:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03scruffybeard [533] (Score:2) 02So What? - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:49] <exec> 08└─About 11% of adults in the U.S. don't have a drivers license. Why is it so hard to believe that there are still people who don't find the Internet useful, or relevant to their lives.
[12:42:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck the feebs - 06White Hats Don't Want to Work for Understaffed FBI - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:42:09] <exec> 08└─Black hats don't want anything to do with law enforcement
[12:42:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Market - 06White Hats Don't Want to Work for Understaffed FBI - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:42:28] <exec> 08└─the free market works in every field except that of hiring
[12:43:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:$2.8B - 06Nokia's Digital Mapping Business Bought by German Carmakers - 649 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:43:36] <exec> 08└─It's not about the man-years only. Nokia created their own gear to collect the high-precision map data with laser scanners on their scouting-vehicles, which is a major investment in RnD and equipment. Nokia provides the infrastructure to collect and provide crucial traffic information. Both is not a...
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[12:43:40] <exec> 08└─1st of all, it is not what Google Maps was five years ago. Google Maps never offered offline-navigation, and that is a key-differentiator of HERE maps. 2nd, HERE app was not sold, but provided for free. I'm not familiar with the exact business-case they had to create it, but it could well be that us...
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[13:37:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Juicy organic delight - 06T-Minus 11 Days to Perihelion, Rosetta'S Comet Up Close and in 3D - 355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:03] <exec> 08└─This submission contains a few errors. First, CO2 is not a juicy organic delight. It is a toxic, acidic greenhouse gas. Also it is not a fact that comets collided with the earth early in its history, that is speculative. It is interesting that the dust grains are described as ice poor, that has been...
[13:37:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Juicy organic delight - 06T-Minus 11 Days to Perihelion, Rosetta'S Comet Up Close and in 3D - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:04] <exec> 08└─I was actually just here to post about the phrase "juicy organic delights" too - if I'd had breakfast I'd have lost it. And I never even managed to read any of the rest of the submission.
[13:37:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03rob_on_earth [5485] (Score:1) 02define: perihelion - 06T-Minus 11 Days to Perihelion, Rosetta'S Comet Up Close and in 3D - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:06] <exec> 08└─"Perihelion" noun ASTRONOMY the point in the orbit of a planet, asteroid, or comet at which it is closest to the sun. "today Mercury is at perihelion" learn something new everyday
[13:37:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snospar [5366] (Score:1) 02For other viewers - 06T-Minus 11 Days to Perihelion, Rosetta'S Comet Up Close and in 3D - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:07] <exec> 08└─...the best time for viewing the comet from Earth... They have a bigger audience on that web site than I thought!
[13:37:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Willing partners? - 06Caterpillar Chemical Turns Ants Into Bodyguards - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:22] <exec> 08└─I believe anonymous cowards don't have free will. Their brains are just insufficiently complex. What does complexity have to do with free will?
[13:37:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Like they said - 06Caterpillar Chemical Turns Ants Into Bodyguards - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:23] <exec> 08└─You can turn your back on ants, but you can't turn your back on worm juice.
[13:37:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:Even domesticated breeds aren't tame - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:49] <exec> 08└─They're not a problem if you remember to wear your Najarala [wikia.com] gear (or your personal favorite). Don't forget to get those carves! Bison, mm, so tasty!
[13:39:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03miljo [5757] (Score:1) 02Re:Have to agree with El Reg on this one - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:52] <exec> 08└─+1 The earth is full of delicious plants and animals, and we can be chemists and artists in our kitchens and combine delicious plants and animals into culinary delights. Why would you want to forgo that for snot in a bottle?
[13:40:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:*gloat gloat* - 06DNS Server Attacks Begin Using BIND Software Flaw - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:04] <exec> 08└─I don't use bind, but I bet the lots of others do. My setup is dnsmasq + /etc/hosts [split dns]
[13:40:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:''anti-virus'' - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:37] <exec> 08└─I always thought being an idiot increases your chance to see a virus. BTW, I've never seen a Linux virus, and I'm not 12 years old. But how much of that experience comes from using Linux, how much comes from not installing every shit I come across on the net, how much comes from not opening every sp...
[13:40:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So? - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:40:44] <exec> 08└─Having five locations for anything is not very rural.
[13:41:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:2) 02Re:All it takes - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 679 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:35] <exec> 08└─True, hence I said "more equal." But with any new tech it has to beat the old tech usually at the old techs own game. It is an uphill climb. DVD was better than VHS. No one wanted a refrigerator until it was cheaper than having ice delivered for their icebox. Of course price is usually the biggest...
[13:41:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:All it takes - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 623 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:39] <exec> 08└─That argument is similar to the argument that if you have to light a fire (i.e. to provide energy to start it) then it cannot produce energy. In other words, totally bogus. Of course the art is to distinguish combustible substances from non-combustible ones. A piece of wood won't too easily start bu...
[13:42:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Read the words and hear what they imply - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:04] <exec> 08└─How is zero emissions even possible?
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[14:37:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Funny) 02Morale - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:37:02] <exec> 08└─Morale: Don't announce the good you'll do in advance. Only announce it after you've done it.
[14:37:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Morale - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 448 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:37:04] <exec> 08└─Good advice. If this guy had just quietly passed out a little praise, and some modest raises, he would have done a whole hell of a lot more good. If, over the course of five years, he had brought all of his people up to $70k quietly, few would have noticed. Sure, the people he gave raises to would h...
[14:37:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Improving others' lives doesn't cheapen yours - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:37:05] <exec> 08└─This is why we can't have nice things.
[14:37:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03spxero [3061] (Score:2) 02Re:Why would I want that? - 06Apple Wants Siri to be Your New Receptionist - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:37:24] <exec> 08└─I've used Google voice for quite some time now, and I can't think of one voicemail that read the same as the audio message itself. Some are bad enough they can't be transcribed. There are quite a few that have enough context clues in the transcription to give an idea of what's going on, but it's far...
[14:37:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Why would I want that? - 06Apple Wants Siri to be Your New Receptionist - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:37:25] <exec> 08└─Agreed, and in addition a 2 minute second voice mail can be parsed in 10 seconds. I turned voicemail off when work moved me to Vodafone from O2, as Vodafone don't even have visual voicemail -- it's like something from 1997, no way to see who's left you a mail, when, how long it is, etc. Ridiculous.
[14:37:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why would I want that? - 06Apple Wants Siri to be Your New Receptionist - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:37:26] <exec> 08└─As well as give Apple a transcript of all your conversations. Why would I want that? Is there an automatic forwarding of the transcript to the NSA? Or do they already do voice-to-text and Apple is just playing catch up? :))
[14:37:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02text to voice software - 06Apple Wants Siri to be Your New Receptionist - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:37:29] <exec> 08└─Does anyone know of any offline text to voice software I can get for free? Ideally open source as well. It doesn't even need to be very good.
[14:37:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03middlemen [504] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:text to voice software - 06Apple Wants Siri to be Your New Receptionist - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:37:31] <exec> 08└─Festvox: http://www.festvox.org [festvox.org]. You should be able to get it on Debian/Ubuntu using apt-get.
[14:37:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Willing partners? - 06Caterpillar Chemical Turns Ants Into Bodyguards - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:37:40] <exec> 08└─Do you think an atom has a free will? Why or why not?
[14:37:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Willing partners? - 06Caterpillar Chemical Turns Ants Into Bodyguards - 766 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:37:41] <exec> 08└─I think free will is a bullshit concept that refuses to acknowledge that while you exist in a real way, and are capable of making decisions, that you are an extremely complex engine for making those decisions. To think that you're separate from the mechanics of the universe because you're complicate...
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[14:38:07] <exec> 08└─> Why mention that she was German? Helloooooo? The Holocaust? Someone needs their coffee this morning.
[14:38:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Evolution - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 570 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:38:16] <exec> 08└─Be careful when drinking di-hydrogen monoxide. It can present a choking hazard. You know what it is. Because someone taught you what it is. Some people do not realize wild animals are dangerous. The biggest danger they have is someone running a stoplight. Do not confuse stupid with does not know. St...
[14:38:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Pretty well established here - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 507 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:38:17] <exec> 08└─There are no "safe animals". It's already been mentioned that domesticated animals are dangerous - the one thing no one has mentioned are dogs. Yes, your well behaved little chihuahua turns into a pack animal when he escapes the house. He can't take down a deer by himself, or a small child - but he...
[14:39:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wow - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:39:38] <exec> 08└─http://stats.stackexchange.com/questions/130723/hypothesis-testing-and-the-scientific-method/ [stackexchange.com]
[14:40:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03xav [5579] (Score:1) 02Related news - 06DNS Server Attacks Begin Using BIND Software Flaw - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:40:25] <exec> 08└─https://soylentnews.org/breakingnews/article.pl?sid=15/07/30/146206 [soylentnews.org]
[14:41:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02Re:15% about to be 16% - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 456 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:41:16] <exec> 08└─I do consult howto's online all the time. I'm also constantly looking stuff up on Wikipedia and sourcing components for my projects. The internet has a lot of value for me. I remember that kind of stuff used to be hard to find--you had to somehow hear about an enthusiasts' club if you even had anyth...
[14:42:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Which is cheaper? - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:42:20] <exec> 08└─I would like to grow it but it sounds like the stuff will spread like crazy beyond my yard. The containment solutions online are marketed like some terrible Jurassic Park thing. "They will never escape containment!"
[14:42:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:2) 02Re:Read the words and hear what they imply - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:42:28] <exec> 08└─Building a lot of solar would also create a lot of jobs that can't be outsourced.
[14:42:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:Only greener if power plant is green - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 524 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:42:34] <exec> 08└─If only that daily dose of fusion power came in the form of electromotive force instead of the blackbody radiation signature for 5778 K. Then the people in Tennessee would be using it instead of digging rocks out of the ground and setting them on fire to boil water and spin some magnets. As long as...
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[15:37:06] <exec> 08└─Getting noticed is usually a good thing for companies. In this case, he went against the good old American value that poor deserve to be poor.
[15:37:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03zugedneb [4556] (Score:2) 02Morale version 2 - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:37:07] <exec> 08└─Change happens in small steps. Do not do things that nobody understands. Do not do things that is difficult to fit in a big picture... ...and so forth...
[15:37:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Wow nice place you live in - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:37:09] <exec> 08└─Only in america can an attempt at being benevolent and good can be met with such ridiculous hostility. And the brother, what a piece of shit
[15:37:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Wow nice place you live in - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:37:10] <exec> 08└─And the brother, what a piece of shit Yeah what a POS for trusting his brother not to piss away his money. What a LOOOOOSER!
[15:37:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03fadrian [3194] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Wow nice place you live in - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:37:12] <exec> 08└─Which is why the only effective way to change the market is to use regulations.
[15:37:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I'm glad he did it - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:37:14] <exec> 08└─Now we don't have to just speculate about what might happen if a company tried such-and-such; we can refer to what actually did happen.
[15:37:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm glad he did it - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:37:15] <exec> 08└─Yep. A few selfish whiners quit, and many people want to work for him. Good example.
[15:37:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02sign of the times (for all the times) - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:37:17] <exec> 08└─Suck money out of people in every conceivable way, and nobody bats an eye raise the minimum wage and everybody loses their mind. The system, the beast if you like, it is real.
[15:37:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:2) 02Re:define: perihelion - 06T-Minus 11 Days to Perihelion, Rosetta's Comet Up Close and in 3D - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:37:24] <exec> 08└─And Aphelion being the opposite. I have to admit, I learned quite a few strange words playing Kerbal Space Program (although in the game it should be called Perikerbol and Apokerbol, IMO)
[15:37:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03scruffybeard [533] (Score:2) 02Re:Why would I want that? - 06Apple Wants Siri to be Your New Receptionist - 497 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:37:37] <exec> 08└─My experience has been much closer to the 75-85% mark, especially if you learn to read the messages phonetically. Perhaps I am not a typical user, but I am just looking for the gist of what the person wants, and determine how quickly I need to respond. Since I don't bring my phone to work, having th...
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[15:37:43] <exec> 08└─Thanks, looks like exactly what I need.
[15:37:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03NullPtr [3786] (Score:1) 02Re:Willing partners? - 06Caterpillar Chemical Turns Ants Into Bodyguards - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:37:55] <exec> 08└─That's like saying a cup can't hold water because you could cut a hole in it and then it wouldn't be able to hold any water.
[15:37:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Willing partners? - 06Caterpillar Chemical Turns Ants Into Bodyguards - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:37:57] <exec> 08└─No, I don't think it's much like that at all.
[15:37:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03arulatas [3600] (Score:2) 02Re:Like they said - 06Caterpillar Chemical Turns Ants Into Bodyguards - 5 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:37:59] <exec> 08└─Slorm
[15:37:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03arulatas [3600] (Score:2) 02Re:Like they said - 06Caterpillar Chemical Turns Ants Into Bodyguards - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:38:00] <exec> 08└─Make that http://futurama.wikia.com [wikia.com].
[15:38:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondrake [2658] (Score:1) 02Re:Pretty well established here - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:38:34] <exec> 08└─Well, to be fair to the animals, I tend to think that a dog that accepts you as his/her pack leader is probably more loyal compared to the average human. How many times you heard someone divorced his dog?
[15:38:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pretty well established here - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:38:35] <exec> 08└─Don't forget the most dangerous animal of all. Humans.
[15:38:52] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02How's this? - 06Indian Government Orders ISPs to Block 857 Porn Websites - 98 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:38:53] <exec> 08└─A country famous for its Kamasutra bans porn. For sure, this is not ironic (much less silveric)...
[15:40:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:Wonderfood? - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 1876 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:40:10] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I've been drinking it for about a month now (used it before then too, but stopped due to the shipping delays and the DIY variants mostly sucking.) Personally, I love the stuff, and they've been shipping it out within two or three days for over a month now so TFS's update on the shipping isn't...
[15:42:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:2) 02Re:Read the words and hear what they imply - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 1081 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:42:48] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure if you provided the link to support me or not. Some things I saw. 1) new solar is being built but not coal or nuke 2) new built natural gas grew twice as fast as solar 3) if you include non-utility solar natural gas still wins. 4) green added 824 MW in nov My math: from the link abov...
[15:45:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Daiv [3940] (Score:2) 02Wireless charging zealots/swapable battery zealots - 06Boosting the Transfer Efficiency of Wireless Power Transfer Systems - 631 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:41] <exec> 08└─Seems like the wireless charging zealots are all about factory sealed/waterproof phones. This seems to be at direct odds with the replaceable battery zealots who seem to be personally offended when someone didn't even notice the phone they bought didn't have a replaceable battery (@ 3000% markup) ve...
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[16:37:16] <exec> 08└─and inflation?
[16:37:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wow nice place you live in - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:37:19] <exec> 08└─Yeah what a POS for trusting his brother not to piss away his money. What a LOOOOOSER!
[16:37:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:Wow nice place you live in - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 498 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:37:21] <exec> 08└─Which regulations would those be? Set worker pay levels government-style? This bombed because he brought up the pay of the bottom people without giving everyone else a similar raise. Someone who's worked to get to the level they're at is always going to be resentful of someone handed the same money...
[16:37:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'm glad he did it - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 661 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:37:24] <exec> 08└─...and the business fails due to bad business practice... A company must produce more than it consumes to be viable. Income must exceed outgo. A raise in outgo must be coupled with a raise in income (in either the short or long term). This is a classic business example where outgo was raised without...
[16:37:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaganar [605] (Score:2) 02Minimum wage - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 651 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:26] <exec> 08└─I've heard often from people who make near the current federal minimum wage how unfair raising minimum wage is -- not because "then everything will cost more" or one of the more expected lines of reasoning. No, it's because it's unfair to have people making more than they ever made doing their past...
[16:37:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03http [1920] (Score:2) 02Surprised - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:28] <exec> 08└─So treating people fairly after a long time of treating them unfairly is cause to quit... you Americans confuse me.
[16:37:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Surprised - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:37:30] <exec> 08└─> So treating people fairly after a long time of treating them unfairly is cause to quit... you Americans confuse me. Sounds like a dick move. But remember we are only getting one version of the story. For all we know those guys just found higher paying jobs (something that happens all the time in t...
[16:37:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Surprised - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 1421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:37:31] <exec> 08└─No it is more or less the opposite. If you worked your arse off, and were paid more for your extra effort you would find it unfair to all of a sudden see someone else get their salary doubled for doing jack shit while you only get few more K a year. That is essentially what happened here. The people...
[16:37:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Surprised - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:37:33] <exec> 08└─So treating people fairly after a long time of treating them unfairly is cause to quit... you Americans confuse me.
[16:37:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03SecurityGuy [1453] (Score:2) 02Re:Surprised - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:37:35] <exec> 08└─That's still less than you, but the kid is maybe 1/4 as productive, and moreover he hasn't had to work up through the ranks to get to your pay.
[16:37:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Totally understandable - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 1366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:36] <exec> 08└─All the comments criticizing the employees who felt demotivated by this are off-base. Sorry, folks, this is basic human nature. If you work for this company as - let's say - a network tech. You've recently finished school, and don't have a lot of experience, so $70k is a fine enough salary. Then the...
[16:37:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Totally understandable - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:37:38] <exec> 08└─> Because of this company policy, the janitor gets the same salary you do. If they were really two of the company's "most valued employees" they were already making way more than $70K.
[16:37:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Totally understandable - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 991 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:37:39] <exec> 08└─There are incentives other than money. For example, he could have his people competing for first dibs on conference rooms, bigger or nicer offices, parking spaces, first in line at the lunch buffet, bonus vacation time, or even simply title and prestige. That sort of competition happens all the time...
[16:37:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03skullz [2532] (Score:2) 02Re:Totally understandable - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 406 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:37:41] <exec> 08└─Interestingly enough it looked like they were able to talk most of their customers into signing back up again. As one guy said, let Price run his business, I'll run mine. The pizza guy passed his monthly savings by using Gravity onto his employees so he won out by building loyalty at no real cost to...
[16:37:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03skullz [2532] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Can't trust the employees! - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 1678 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:43] <exec> 08└─From the article, from a customer worrying that service will start to slip: "What's their incentive to hustle if you pay them so much?" That right there folks is a problem I see over and over where there is a great distrust between the employer and the employees. In this case, what was their incenti...
[16:37:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03SecurityGuy [1453] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Can't trust the employees! - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:37:44] <exec> 08└─From the article, from a customer worrying that service will start to slip: "What's their incentive to hustle if you pay them so much?"
[16:37:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The Parable of the Workers in the Vineyard - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 870 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:46] <exec> 08└─When it was evening the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman, ‘Summon the laborers and give them their pay, beginning with the last and ending with the first.’ When those who had started about five o’clock came, each received the usual daily wage. So when the first came, they thought that...
[16:38:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why would I want that? - 06Apple Wants Siri to be Your New Receptionist - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:38:03] <exec> 08└─Ever have to replay a voice-mail in order to figure out what the caller actually said? That's your own ears making a transcription error. You are just used to dealing with it so it is unremarkable to you.
[16:38:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Willing partners? - 06Caterpillar Chemical Turns Ants Into Bodyguards - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:38:23] <exec> 08└─Free will can be an illusion or not, but at least consciousness or self-awareness are probably more "real". Descartes could say "Cogito ergo sum", a child can recognize himself in the mirror, but very simple automata cannot have subjectivity. It can be argued that a few thousands neurons do not pass...
[16:38:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03OrugTor [5147] (Score:1) 02Ant is not an individual - 06Caterpillar Chemical Turns Ants Into Bodyguards - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:38:28] <exec> 08└─What the ant loses or gains is irrelevant. The ants are part of a collective that loses units to the caterpillar. So caterpillar 1, ant collective 0.
[16:38:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:what a shame - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:38:48] <exec> 08└─I suppose we should be thankful they don't euthanize the bison for acting like wild animals. Too often any conflict between people and wildlife ends up with dead wildlife, even if it is the fault (as it usually is) of the people involved. If it is something like a snake or alligator, they only have...
[16:39:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Specliast Subject: The Bleedin' Obvious - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:39:02] <exec> 08└─I just returned from Yosemite, and, I have to say, after a 10+ mile hike to the top of a peak, there is great temptation to base-jump the way down (to avoid the 10+ mile hike to the bottom). If I was a base-jumper, I would seriously consider it. Of course, there are stiff penalties (jailtime) for do...
[16:39:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Yellowstone and the Animals - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:39:03] <exec> 08└─The moral of the story is that wild animals are wild and can hurt you, even the ones that look cute and cuddly.
[16:39:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pretty well established here - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:39:08] <exec> 08└─> How many times you heard someone divorced his dog? If he goes around humping other legs, I'm throwing him out on his fuzzy ass.
[16:39:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Pretty well established here - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:39:09] <exec> 08└─You don't need to divorce your dog. You have fun with it a few years, and then you can put it down. A simpler approach to companionship, really.
[16:39:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The list - 06Indian Government Orders ISPs to Block 857 Porn Websites - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:39:48] <exec> 08└─http://media.newindianexpress.com/article2955561.ece/binary/original/Complete-List-of-Porn-Websites-Blocked.pdf [newindianexpress.com]
[16:40:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02Re:If you want to try Soylent - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 907 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:40:59] <exec> 08└─A very valid point. The powder is actually 9 a day, and if you roll your own you can be down to less than 3. But that point aside, I'm a person who does not enjoy cooking. I would much rather spend my time doing something else (like writing this post). So with that mindset, I'm eating garbage frozen...
[16:44:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Market - 06White Hats Don't Want to Work for Understaffed FBI - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:44:04] <exec> 08└─apparently you have never actually hired anyone before
[16:45:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:it's a different world they live in - 06Some Boards Listen to CEO "Say on Pay" Shareholder Votes - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:38] <exec> 08└─No shit. My challenge stands.
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[17:37:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Utility Coverage - 06Ask Soylent: FOSS Equivalent to "Google Analytics" - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:01] <exec> 08└─" A co worker found that Google Analytics can get expensive. "
[17:37:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Wow nice place you live in - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 140 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:24] <exec> 08└─Only in america can an attempt at being benevolent and good can be met with such ridiculous hostility. And the brother, what a piece of shit
[17:37:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wow nice place you live in - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:37:28] <exec> 08└─"hey loan me 100 bucks" "sure here you go" "I spent the money on blow and a hooker" "can I have my money back?" "No you greed fuck you have a million dollars"
[17:37:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wow nice place you live in - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 448 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:37:29] <exec> 08└─More like hey I spent that $100 trying to retain our employee workforce reducing employee churn, increasing productivity, and raising the company profile. In terms of marking it was a huge success, though there were some unexpected downsides in doing something new and risky, but as a start up invest...
[17:37:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wow nice place you live in - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:37:31] <exec> 08└─We don't know what the story is between those two guys. Maybe the CEO cheated his brother out of half the company, felt some guilt about it, so decided to restore his moral balance by giving away money to his employees. "I'm not the bad guy here" - some movie
[17:37:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wow nice place you live in - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:37:33] <exec> 08└─This bombed because he brought up the pay of the bottom people without giving everyone else a similar raise. Someone who's worked to get to the level they're at is always going to be resentful of someone handed the same money despite not providing the same value.
[17:37:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:sign of the times (for all the times) - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 1594 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:37:38] <exec> 08└─Raising the minimum wage is a good idea but also a stupid idea, for the reasons outlined in the article. Even more ridiculous is raising the minimum wage for some industries (fast-food) but not others. I've said over and over again that I don't mind raising wages, as long as we keep the middle-class...
[17:37:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:Surprised - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:37:42] <exec> 08└─and are being bad-mouthed now that they are gone (something that happens too frequently in practically every industry).
[17:37:49] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03skullz [2532] 02Can't trust the employees! - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 1678 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:50] <exec> 08└─From the article, from a customer worrying that service will start to slip: "What's their incentive to hustle if you pay them so much?" That right there folks is a problem I see over and over where there is a great distrust between the employer and the employees. In this case, what was their incenti...
[17:37:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Define Backfire - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:53] <exec> 08└─If this is a "backfire" the backfire me all over the place. FTArticle that is desperately trying to paint this in a bad light (buried after several pages of evidence-less hyperbole): And the publicity surrounding it has generated tangible benefits. Three months before the announcement, the fi...
[17:38:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Re:Juicy organic delight - 06T-Minus 11 Days to Perihelion, Rosetta's Comet Up Close and in 3D - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:38:03] <exec> 08└─CO2 is not a juicy organic delight.
[17:39:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03KBentley57 [645] (Score:1, Disagree) 02Re:what a shame - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:39:03] <exec> 08└─I moderated your post as troll, because that's just what it is. Take a step back and look at what you said for a moment. You wished death on these people, for making what was probably an innocent mistake. Don't devalue a human life on such simple grounds.
[17:39:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:what a shame - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:39:04] <exec> 08└─" You wished death on these people, for making what was probably an innocent mistake. "
[17:40:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:let's examine the reasons why people drink - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:40:38] <exec> 08└─If the stress itself was temporary, for example hard day at work, a drink or two can actually help to put it aside. Since it was temporary in the first place, it's still gone the next morning. Pain has a winding up phenomenon. If you knock it down for a while, the relief can persist long after the a...
[17:41:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Daiv [3940] (Score:2) 02Re:Better editing - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:41:27] <exec> 08└─For your next try, you should say Candle Jac
[17:43:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03computersareevil [749] (Score:2) 02Re:The service infrastructure - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:43:50] <exec> 08└─The only "semi-open fluid system" that a BEV doesn't have is the fuel system. It has lubrication, cooling, and refrigeration systems just like an ICEV including hoses, radiators, evaporators, condensors, pumps, and compressors. These systems cannot be energy-efficiently replaced with solid-state alt...
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[18:37:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Anonymity - 06EFF Lead Coalition Announces "Do Not Track" Redux - 491 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:04] <exec> 08└─Sending that DNT signal to sebsites seems to help them to "fingerprint" you. You can't avoid sending some information - else how would you get the page you're after? I played with DNT a little bit, over at https://panopticlick.eff.org [eff.org] Let me repeat - I played with it, I didn't do an exhau...
[18:37:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Anonymity - 06EFF Lead Coalition Announces "Do Not Track" Redux - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:37:05] <exec> 08└─Well, it's a bit out of our control, you know? We can shoot down third party tracking scripts pretty easily, but we have no idea what's baked into the servers and sites we're connecting to without laborious examination. Apathy can be the right response to impossibility.
[18:37:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nobuddy [1626] (Score:2) 02Re:Anonymity - 06EFF Lead Coalition Announces "Do Not Track" Redux - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:37:08] <exec> 08└─Advertisers doing scummy crap like this, popovers, hover ads, and the like will never stop voluntarily. Until we have a nationwide army of goons hovering over ad execs ready to break kneecaps, they will continue to be sociopathic fuckheads.
[18:37:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Anonymity - 06EFF Lead Coalition Announces "Do Not Track" Redux - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:37:09] <exec> 08└─Thank you for telling us about what's wrong with the previous system. ::rolleyes:: Do you have anything to say about this new project?
[18:37:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:3, Informative) 02SN use to use piwik? - 06Ask Soylent: FOSS Equivalent to "Google Analytics" - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:15] <exec> 08└─I could swear SN use to have piwik running? *Searches* Yup, here is NCommander's post on it: https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org] It doesn't appear to be running anymore though.
[18:37:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2, Informative) 02apache logs and grep... - 06Ask Soylent: FOSS Equivalent to "Google Analytics" - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:17] <exec> 08└─Isn't this just apache logs and grep?
[18:37:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:apache logs and grep... - 06Ask Soylent: FOSS Equivalent to "Google Analytics" - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:37:19] <exec> 08└─Only if you like reports with zero aggregation : ) Which sounds like an oxymoron.
[18:37:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lunix Nutcase [3913] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:apache logs and grep... - 06Ask Soylent: FOSS Equivalent to "Google Analytics" - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:37:21] <exec> 08└─No, it's not. Not even close. Have you ever used Google Analytics even once?
[18:37:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:apache logs and grep... - 06Ask Soylent: FOSS Equivalent to "Google Analytics" - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:37:22] <exec> 08└─What data do they collect that you wouldn't find in Apache logs?
[18:37:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Local? - 06Ask Soylent: FOSS Equivalent to "Google Analytics" - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:24] <exec> 08└─Does any of the alternatives run locally (that is, does not require contacting a server owned by the provider of the tool or another third person)?
[18:37:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02HAHAHAHAHA - 06Ask Soylent: FOSS Equivalent to "Google Analytics" - 768 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:26] <exec> 08└─Why is it that you absolutely never reach for the answer of creating it yourself? I'm astounded at how crippled everyone thinks they are. First understand that all analytics is, is an X,Y on a chart. So at your server side take a look at what google is storing for X,Y and set your system up to store...
[18:37:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Morale - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:37:41] <exec> 08└─Getting noticed is usually a good thing for companies. It's been a good thing for Gravity Payments as well: And the publicity surrounding it has generated tangible benefits. Three months before the announcement, the firm had been adding 200 clients a month. In June, 350 signed up. Hm...
[18:37:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wow nice place you live in - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 1499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:37:50] <exec> 08└─And in the process I cost us our 3 top customers. But maybe these other 10 might pay off in 6 months to a year. So in the mean time can you give us a loan to float for 6 months? In business terms he turned a 'sure win' into a 'maybe'. With about maybe an even on prospects in return on investment due...
[18:37:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Wow nice place you live in - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 515 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:37:55] <exec> 08└─I never understood that pay part. Someone else getting a raise doesn't cheapen your pay. Maybe they didn't even earn theirs and it was a mistake on a form. Either way, good for them. It still doesn't change how much you make. The only way this could make sense is that them getting a raise means that...
[18:37:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm glad he did it - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:37:59] <exec> 08└─Don't forget the part where the CEO cut his own pay from $1million to $70k. That's enough savings for 14 employees at $70k.
[18:38:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Totally understandable - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:38:14] <exec> 08└─I can understand believing rates would raise, and therefore they want to look now rather than when the higher rates hit. I mean, they announced rates wouldn't go up because of this, but absent any legal constraint, it's hard to take such words at face value.
[18:38:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Refugee from beyond [2699] (Score:2) 02Re:Totally understandable - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:38:16] <exec> 08└─Then the company needs to hire a new janitor, and hires someone with zilch education who barely even speaks the language. Because of this company policy, the janitor gets the same salary you do. Can you honestly say that wouldn't irritate the hell out of you?
[18:38:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Totally understandable - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:38:17] <exec> 08└─Why the hell would he go to school if he ends up making the same amount after he gets out? He just spent $$$$$ on literately nothing. I very much doubt he values education already, so yes it is worthless to him. With that money he could get two cars and a boat probably, if that is what he values mor...
[18:38:18] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02The Parable of the Workers in the Vineyard - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 870 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:38:19] <exec> 08└─When it was evening the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman, ‘Summon the laborers and give them their pay, beginning with the last and ending with the first.’ When those who had started about five o’clock came, each received the usual daily wage. So when the first came, they thought that...
[18:38:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03dr zim [748] (Score:1) 02Moral, not morale - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:38:21] <exec> 08└─You guys know that it's the 'Moral' of the story, not the Morale, right?
[18:38:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Juicy organic delight - 06T-Minus 11 Days to Perihelion, Rosetta's Comet Up Close and in 3D - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:38:31] <exec> 08└─The thing must have been around the sun a couple of times. I'd be surprised if surface dust had contained a lot of ice.
[18:39:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Willing partners? - 06Caterpillar Chemical Turns Ants Into Bodyguards - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:39:07] <exec> 08└─A cup can't hold water because there is space between atoms.
[18:39:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Willing partners? - 06Caterpillar Chemical Turns Ants Into Bodyguards - 385 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:39:09] <exec> 08└─We neither have a complete model of the universe, nor are we sure know how the mechanisms we do understand lead to the emergence of consciousness. Rejecting an idea that you cannot reasonably falsify is willful ignorance, just as it is to assume it true. With enough insight and invasive surgery, we...
[18:39:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03KBentley57 [645] (Score:1) 02Re:what a shame - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:39:37] <exec> 08└─Take a glass of wine and check yourself. I didn't say what they did wasn't stupid. Put your own mother, father, sibling or child in that situation, does it change your mind? If not you're just an old hateful hag. If so, you're being hypocritical. Last time I checked even "dumb shits" however stupidl...
[18:39:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Even domesticated breeds aren't tame - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:39:41] <exec> 08└─Common sense indeed. Would you pet a strange dog? How about attempting to pick up a stray cat? People are just incredibly dumb. They don't stop and think about their actions.
[18:40:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:My Cure - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:40:58] <exec> 08└─My head and day are still normal. It has caused my body to go a bit pear shaped, though.
[18:41:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:In barely-related news - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:41:55] <exec> 08└─I'm sure the power running that Chinese factory is so much cleaner than the power that would operate his washing machine.
[18:44:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:The service infrastructure - 06California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:44:24] <exec> 08└─Is there a diagram somewhere that compares the internals of both systems? That would be handy.
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[19:37:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03pkrasimirov [3358] (Score:2) 02Segway - 06Hackers Can Seize Control of Electric Skateboards and Toss Riders - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:37:00] <exec> 08└─I remember Jimi Heselden [wikipedia.org] falling off a cliff while riding his Segway.
[19:37:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:Segway - 06Hackers Can Seize Control of Electric Skateboards and Toss Riders - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:37:02] <exec> 08└─I see how the TFA gave you a good segue into that comment.
[19:37:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score:2) 02Re:Segway - 06Hackers Can Seize Control of Electric Skateboards and Toss Riders - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:37:04] <exec> 08└─I just read about what actually happened and realise my sibling comment may appear in bad taste. RIP Jimi.
[19:37:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Simple wireless bluetooth. - 06Hackers Can Seize Control of Electric Skateboards and Toss Riders - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:37:06] <exec> 08└─The story changes from headline to more details. They found at least one critical vulnerability in each board, all of which hinge on the fact that the manufacturers of the boards failed to encrypt the communication between the remotes and the boards.
[19:37:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03miljo [5757] (Score:2, Funny) 02Click Here - 06EFF Lead Coalition Announces "Do Not Track" Redux - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:37:16] <exec> 08└─Get websites to stop tracking you with this one weird trick. Click here to find out how
[19:37:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:SN use to use piwik? - 06Ask Soylent: FOSS Equivalent to "Google Analytics" - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:37:26] <exec> 08└─We've been using piwik for our sites for several years. Haven't had any issues with it, plus it works in real-time. The data tends to build up, but the software is very complete and very responsive when viewing reports/stats/whathaveyou.
[19:37:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03pendorbound [2688] (Score:2) 02Re:apache logs and grep... - 06Ask Soylent: FOSS Equivalent to "Google Analytics" - 841 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:37:31] <exec> 08└─In terms of what they *collect*, lots of fingerprinted info about the browser. Versions, plugins, screen resolution, etc. More than just the user agent string in a combined log contains because GA executes JavaScript code on the client to do additional detection. Beyond the collection though, the re...
[19:37:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Local? - 06Ask Soylent: FOSS Equivalent to "Google Analytics" - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:37:34] <exec> 08└─webalizer [webalizer.org]
[19:37:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Re:HAHAHAHAHA - 06Ask Soylent: FOSS Equivalent to "Google Analytics" - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:37:35] <exec> 08└─Yo, douche nozzle, I bet you're used to "handling it yourself" if you know what I mean.
[19:37:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:HAHAHAHAHA - 06Ask Soylent: FOSS Equivalent to "Google Analytics" - 477 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:37:38] <exec> 08└─I just did this. I needed a system that would do an HTTP/HTTPS "health check" on a bunch of webservers. Scoured the web etc -- nagios et al were too much for my needs. I looked at some of the free cloud monitoring services and found them to be lacking, unreliable, or inane. I wrote a ten-line python...
[19:37:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Prism Break - 06Ask Soylent: FOSS Equivalent to "Google Analytics" - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:37:40] <exec> 08└─Have a look over at Prism Break: https://prism-break.org [prism-break.org]
[19:37:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03miljo [5757] (Score:1) 02sFlow - 06Ask Soylent: FOSS Equivalent to "Google Analytics" - 609 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:37:42] <exec> 08└─It takes an eye for looking at the network up, but I've been playing around with using sFlow to collect application performance metrics and coupling them with our network monitoring data. A very different approach, which isn't for everyone, but with enough thought and development, I think I can get...
[19:37:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02zero comments? - 06Duncan Campbell: The Reporter Who Exposed ECHELON Finds Vindication in Snowden Archive - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:37:46] <exec> 08└─Come on guys - Snowden articles always get responses! Since everyone is afraid, I'll go first. Yeah, I guess it would feel good to have a Snowden step up, and verify what you've been telling the world. Campbell did a good job, and some of us were listening to him. He deserves a little of Snowden's f...
[19:37:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:back in a year... - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:38:00] <exec> 08└─Was that his motivation, or did he want to set a good example? We can't know. But would that more people would try to gain attention by doing things that are good, instead of doing things that make their existential penis look larger.
[19:38:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:Morale - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:38:02] <exec> 08└─And the publicity surrounding it has generated tangible benefits. Three months before the announcement, the firm had been adding 200 clients a month. In June, 350 signed up. ... Two of Price's most valued employees quit, spurred in part by their view that it was unfair to double the pay of some new...
[19:38:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03skullz [2532] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Wow nice place you live in - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:38:12] <exec> 08└─It looks like the brother is suing because he says the CEO paid himself a lot of money but didn't pass out high enough dividends and the complaint was signed a month before the wage increase. It doesn't look like the lawsuit and minimum wage issues are related. Where did you get lost business and re...
[19:38:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nobuddy [1626] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Wow nice place you live in - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 644 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:38:14] <exec> 08└─Did you even bother to read the summary, or was your knee jerking too hard for that? All of the raises came from his own salary. Not the company, not profits, his own salary. The move lost him a few accounts from the stupid and politically motivated, but increased the company's sales tenfold. As a r...
[19:38:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wow nice place you live in - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 759 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:38:19] <exec> 08└─> Someone else getting a raise doesn't cheapen your pay. Conservatives lurve themselves the hierarchy.¹ One of the most popular ways for conservatives to measure their position in the hierarchy is with dollars. It isn't just the spending value of the dollars, it is the status indicated by the dolla...
[19:38:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Wow nice place you live in - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 338 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:38:20] <exec> 08└─Humans are monkeys, on a basic level. We crave hierarchy to know where we stand. That's why so many want to be on the winning side of a zero-sum game. There are of course other philosophies and people who escape the primate calculus through them, but most people remain in that limbic fog. Why else w...
[19:38:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'm glad he did it - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:38:25] <exec> 08└─If you bothered to read as much as you wrote, you will find that they have an order of magnitude more business. The only business related problems the company currently has as a consequence is trying to keep up with demand. That is a problem every capitalist should be jealous of.
[19:38:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nobuddy [1626] (Score:2) 02Re:sign of the times (for all the times) - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:38:28] <exec> 08└─Brietbart? Why not an article on National Enquirer or the Sun. Stories of Elvis and Bat Boy are slightly more credible than anything that comes out of that right wing lie factory.
[19:38:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03lonehighway [956] (Score:1) 02The welfare myth won't die - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:38:30] <exec> 08└─This is another right-wing myth that just won't die. People who make this argument have never looked at just how dirt-poor you have to be to qualify for a few dollars of income support. Working a few more hours with slightly higher pay will easily boost your income over what you can get on welfare a...
[19:38:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nobuddy [1626] (Score:2) 02Re:Surprised - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:38:37] <exec> 08└─Summary: "Fuck you, I got mine. Stay poor so I feel better about my paltry paycheck in comparison!"
[19:38:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Totally understandable - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:38:45] <exec> 08└─Because of this company policy, the janitor gets the same salary you do. Can you honestly say that wouldn't irritate the hell out of you?
[19:38:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Totally understandable - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:38:47] <exec> 08└─I concur that that phenomenon is well-documented. The Chicago School of Economics where I was trained cited it clearly. But then they waved their hands, Jedi-like, and moved on, never considering the implications of that zero-sum mentality. They never seriously considered the ramifications of a diff...
[19:39:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03pkrasimirov [3358] (Score:2) 02Shirt - 06T-Minus 11 Days to Perihelion, Rosetta's Comet Up Close and in 3D - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:39:01] <exec> 08└─...And I'm still thinking about that guy with the shirt that had to apologise to all the feminists in the world. It was pure injustice! Mod me offtopic if you want...
[19:39:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Why would I want that? - 06Apple Wants Siri to be Your New Receptionist - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:39:16] <exec> 08└─Well, it jerked fork Google Voice, so guy hadn't while applesauce too? -Transcribed through Google Voice
[19:39:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ikanreed [3164] 02Re:Willing partners? - 06Caterpillar Chemical Turns Ants Into Bodyguards - 766 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:39:32] <exec> 08└─I think free will is a bullshit concept that refuses to acknowledge that while you exist in a real way, and are capable of making decisions, that you are an extremely complex engine for making those decisions. To think that you're separate from the mechanics of the universe because you're complicate...
[19:39:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Willing partners? - 06Caterpillar Chemical Turns Ants Into Bodyguards - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:39:39] <exec> 08└─Dear "ikanreed", Words have meanings, and be mindful. "Complicated" is "made complex" for good or bad reasons. "Complex" is the word you're looking for.
[19:40:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03guizzy [5021] (Score:1) 02Re:what a shame - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:40:08] <exec> 08└─So you never did anything that was in retrospect stupid and dangerous? Ever? In your whole life? And if you did, the only difference is that you were lucky enough that the worst didn't happen. Wishing that people had died from making a stupid mistake (and mistake is the key word; for all we know tha...
[19:40:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yellowstone and the Animals - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 733 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:40:25] <exec> 08└─Just a little myth dispelling: wolf attacks on humans are incredibly rare, as in just a few per century and many of those are in dispute. Bear attacks are several orders of magnitude more common but are still quite rare. Wikipedia even keeps a list containing all the fatal ones. Moose, elk, raccoon,...
[19:40:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Pretty well established here - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:40:33] <exec> 08└─Turning your back on any animal is a risk.
[19:42:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:In barely-related news - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 550 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:42:29] <exec> 08└─Yeah what he's doing is almost as stupid as living in a hotel most of the time and then claiming his home energy use is low. Using uber (instead of cycling, public transport), buying clothes from china and donating them when they are dirty, burning gas to heat his coffee. And then trying to spin it...
[19:43:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:''it is all phone and radio for [old people]'' - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:43:16] <exec> 08└─Actually, one is nothing but NPR and the rest listen to the local classical station.
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[20:37:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:4, Funny) 02Comcast? - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:02] <exec> 08└─So how will this affect those on limited plans or with hidden caps? It will make the average user appear more like the Pirate Bay user. Also is there anyway way one could only pull updates from specific IP address ranges? One other question that jumps to my mind is can someone use this to push o...
[20:37:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Comcast? - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 1008 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:37:03] <exec> 08└─By a simple setting you can tell windows 10 that your connection is metered, and it won't do WuDO. By another simple setting you can tell Windows 10 not to use WUDO at all, regardless of connection type. Articles on how to do this are all over the web. Microsoft foresaw your worry about bogus malici...
[20:37:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:Comcast? - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:37:05] <exec> 08└─Good to know. I haven't made the plunge yet but probably will since I haven't heard of any catastrophic issues. With a lot of features that get added to things security is often not even thought of so it was reasonable to postulate if that was the case here as well.
[20:37:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Comcast? - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:37:06] <exec> 08└─By a simple setting you can tell windows 10 that your connection is metered, and it won't do WuDO.
[20:37:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Comcast? - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:37:08] <exec> 08└─Just figure out how to get a copy of the Enterprise edition. It allows you to turn off all the shit you'll have to. Stuff like the telemetry, cortana, p2p updates, location tracking/sharing bullshit...and on and on.
[20:37:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:3, Informative) 02Pity I didn't learn about this last night. - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:10] <exec> 08└─I hereby propose new slang: The Plunge n. "The act of installing Windows 10." At any rate, here's something for disabling it: http://thehackernews.com [thehackernews.com] Going to try it shortly.
[20:37:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Pity I didn't learn about this last night. - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:37:11] <exec> 08└─See also: http://www.theregister.co.uk [theregister.co.uk] https://fix10.isleaked.com [isleaked.com]
[20:37:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Haha - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:13] <exec> 08└─So this site is just the same thing as slashdot now, except that the stories tend to be a day late and the comments are a lot more clique-y.
[20:37:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Haha - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:37:14] <exec> 08└─Sorry, I guess I actually thought this wasn't real news.
[20:37:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03skullz [2532] (Score:2) 02WoW P2P updates? - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:16] <exec> 08└─Did anyone freak out this much when Blizzard and other game companies started sending out patches via P2P networks? And I pay for those.
[20:37:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:WoW P2P updates? - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:37:18] <exec> 08└─The difference here is one is a video game, the other is an OS. Much larger install base than Blizzard games.
[20:37:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Try Google for solution. - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:19] <exec> 08└─It took less than 5 minutes to search google and turn off delivery optimization. No, I'm not going to post the instructions.
[20:37:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Try Google for solution. - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:37:21] <exec> 08└─I changed my mind... Here’s how: Go to Start Start button icon, then Settings > Update & security > Windows Update , and then select Advanced options. On the Advanced options page, select Choose how updates are delivered, and then use the toggle to turn Delivery Optimization off. When turned off,...
[20:37:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Can it be removed? - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:23] <exec> 08└─In some locked-down environments, you're prohibited from having any P2P software installed, regardless of whether it is disabled or not.
[20:37:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score:3, Informative) 02wait .... - 06Hackers Can Seize Control of Electric Skateboards and Toss Riders - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:28] <exec> 08└─An electric skateboard? Just when I think I have heard the ultimate in laziness something else comes along.. And even better, a hackable electric skateboard. Admittedly I can see how securing a skateboard against a cyber attack would not occur to most people who would build one But I can...
[20:37:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Techwolf [87] (Score:3, Insightful) 02They missed out. - 06Hackers Can Seize Control of Electric Skateboards and Toss Riders - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:30] <exec> 08└─They should have created a box that has a "faceplant" button and sold them to busness owners and pedisterions to handle the rude kids on them.
[20:37:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Celestial [4891] (Score:1) 02Appropriate Quote - 06Hackers Can Seize Control of Electric Skateboards and Toss Riders - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:32] <exec> 08└─"The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain." - A certain starship chief engineer
[20:37:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:Anonymity - 06EFF Lead Coalition Announces "Do Not Track" Redux - 645 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:37:43] <exec> 08└─There is nothing that a “standard” of any kind will do to stop advertisers and other baddies from fingerprinting you and tracking you. I skimmed TFA, and while it mentions that if the website you're visiting doesn't indicate it supports DNT the browser should essentially go into über privacy mo...
[20:37:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Anonymity - 06EFF Lead Coalition Announces "Do Not Track" Redux - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:37:44] <exec> 08└─get this: advertisers and other baddies will gleefully report that they're respecting your DNT header and then promptly add the presence of that header to your fingerprint, just as Runaway1956 indicated.
[20:38:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lunix Nutcase [3913] (Score:2) 02Re:apache logs and grep... - 06Ask Soylent: FOSS Equivalent to "Google Analytics" - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:38:01] <exec> 08└─It's not necessarily just the data but also the aggregation and visualization.
[20:38:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:apache logs and grep... - 06Ask Soylent: FOSS Equivalent to "Google Analytics" - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:38:03] <exec> 08└─Nope. Why I asked...
[20:38:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:HAHAHAHAHA - 06Ask Soylent: FOSS Equivalent to "Google Analytics" - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:38:08] <exec> 08└─No one ever got fired for using GA. Chances are even if the typically-overworked IT denizens could create something similar from scratch, it will be different from the tools that management already knows and is comfortable with.
[20:38:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Techwolf [87] (Score:2) 02piwiki - 06Ask Soylent: FOSS Equivalent to "Google Analytics" - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:38:11] <exec> 08└─Just hook it up to apache or nginix logs and get nice reports that google can't get. Like 404 errors and file downloads. Or set up a analytics server and use the client side javascript bug. Piwiki even has an android app for viewing reports. http://piwik.org [piwik.org]
[20:38:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score:2) 02For 30 years .... - 06Duncan Campbell: The Reporter Who Exposed ECHELON Finds Vindication in Snowden Archive - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:38:20] <exec> 08└─I have been telling people about ECHELON in all its evolutions. And for 30 years I have been told I'm just being paranoid. This is one of those time I really hate being able to say "I told you so"
[20:38:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:For 30 years .... - 06Duncan Campbell: The Reporter Who Exposed ECHELON Finds Vindication in Snowden Archive - 511 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:38:22] <exec> 08└─I recall text files discussing it, and wondering about it -- but lumped it into the TEMPEST monitoring sort of infeasibility due to the grand scope and efforts involved. But yeah, this is not really stuff that helps me sleep at night. With the always on and listening siri, cortana, google now, and a...
[20:38:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Very interesting for me - 06Duncan Campbell: The Reporter Who Exposed ECHELON Finds Vindication in Snowden Archive - 1951 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:38:24] <exec> 08└─I went through the whole thing erlier today (not native english) and it's well worth the read. Being born mid '80s, and being just in my lower teens in the '90s, I became interested really interested in computing in the early '00s, there was a big shunk of information I was missing. Until the Snowde...
[20:38:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Very interesting for me - 06Duncan Campbell: The Reporter Who Exposed ECHELON Finds Vindication in Snowden Archive - 1086 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:38:26] <exec> 08└─> To me, a foreigner, the US Military is US Military all the same In 2011, the public portion of the US military budget was $665 billion. It is in no way a monolith, nothing that size could even approach monolithic integration. There are millions of right hands which have no idea what the millions o...
[20:38:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ikanreed [3164] 02Re:Morale - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 142 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:38:36] <exec> 08└─Getting noticed is usually a good thing for companies. In this case, he went against the good old American value that poor deserve to be poor.
[20:38:37] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] 02Re:Morale - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 380 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:38:37] <exec> 08└─Getting noticed is usually a good thing for companies. It's been a good thing for Gravity Payments as well: And the publicity surrounding it has generated tangible benefits. Three months before the announcement, the firm had been adding 200 clients a month. In June, 350 signed up. Hm...
[20:38:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wow nice place you live in - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:38:49] <exec> 08└─The lawsuit may be the cause of the CEO reducing his salary and paying it out to workers instead. A subtle FU to the brother who filed perhaps
[20:38:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:Wow nice place you live in - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 905 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:38:58] <exec> 08└─Management types do tend to be more conservative, for whatever reason. You're right that staff do consider compensation when comparing themselves to others, especially since that's how management looks at them. Each employee is a cost, and have to bring according value for that cost, or they won't b...
[20:39:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Surprised - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 564 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:39:16] <exec> 08└─No, in general people respect someone for earning their keep and look down on those who get it out of a sense of entitlement. At what point do you feel bothered? What if everyone in the company received a substantial raise but you, that wouldn't bother you? What if they promote people junior to you,...
[20:39:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Refugee from beyond [2699] (Score:2) 02Re:Totally understandable - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:39:24] <exec> 08└─Why does it bother you what he is spending his money on? Unless that's something illegal.
[20:39:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Re:Juicy organic delight - 06T-Minus 11 Days to Perihelion, Rosetta's Comet Up Close and in 3D - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:39:38] <exec> 08└─Those ice screws are for the ice beneath the dust.
[20:39:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Juicy organic delight - 06T-Minus 11 Days to Perihelion, Rosetta's Comet Up Close and in 3D - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:39:39] <exec> 08└─ESA’s Rosetta spacecraft has made its first temperature measurements of its target comet, finding that it is too hot to be covered in ice and must instead have a dark, dusty crust.
[20:40:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Willing partners? - 06Caterpillar Chemical Turns Ants Into Bodyguards - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:40:22] <exec> 08└─However, given our current knowledge about the universe, there is no reason to think that free will exists, just like there is no reason to think that a god exists. I lack a belief in both things.
[20:40:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:what a shame - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 877 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:40:52] <exec> 08└─The Crocodile Hunter knew what he was doing for the most part and even he ended up dead. As to your religious aspect. God put man in charge of the garden of Eden and he was supposed to Take Care of the garden and Animals. Sin has entered the world and now, anyone dumb enough to go hug a lion will ju...
[20:44:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:''anti-virus'' - 06America Offline? 15 Percent of US Adults Don't Use the Internet - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:44:13] <exec> 08└─If it says "open a terminal and type …" then you can usually replace that by "open a terminal and copy/paste this to it". I cannot simply copy/paste a description of how to do it with a GUI.
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[21:37:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Don't be so presumptuous - 06German Prosecutor Fired over Treason Investigation - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:03] <exec> 08└─Maybe YOU read about it earlier this week, but I didn't see any stories on it.
[21:37:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't be so presumptuous - 06German Prosecutor Fired over Treason Investigation - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:04] <exec> 08└─Not at Soylent at least - I was going to complain about having links to the Other Site's stories instead of ours, but apparently we never posted anything on this.
[21:37:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lunix Nutcase [3913] (Score:2) 02Fry his ass. - 06German Prosecutor Fired over Treason Investigation - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:06] <exec> 08└─Hopefully that will be followed up by a subsequent criminal conviction?
[21:37:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The details aren't quite as breathless - 06German Prosecutor Fired over Treason Investigation - 1082 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:07] <exec> 08└─Just your regular BS gamesmanship. From one of the article links: Media reaction in Germany The media outcry over the treason investigation started almost immediately. Süddeutsche Zeitung points out that treason is a very loaded word. The law behind it has in the past been used to go after politica...
[21:37:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The details aren't quite as breathless - 06German Prosecutor Fired over Treason Investigation - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:09] <exec> 08└─"Hmmm. The coffers are running a little low. Quick! Stop the presses, I've got your lead story!": "HELP! HELP! I'M BEING OPPRESSED!"
[21:37:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The details aren't quite as breathless - 06German Prosecutor Fired over Treason Investigation - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:11] <exec> 08└─> Add to this the fact that the newspaper who is crying wolf is reaping the benefits of increased public donations as a result of the publicity. Crying wolf? The prosecutor has been fired. This wasn't just a bullshit made up problem. And taking Die Welt's word on it is self-serving, they are ideolog...
[21:37:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Refugee from beyond [2699] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Slashdot - 06German Prosecutor Fired over Treason Investigation - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:12] <exec> 08└─Could you please warn about links to Slashdot or something? *cough* Whenever I read “this commenter” I expect to remain on the site I'm reading. Or maybe it's just me.
[21:37:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03miljo [5757] (Score:1) 02Re:Slashdot - 06German Prosecutor Fired over Treason Investigation - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:15] <exec> 08└─Oh good. I was going to say the same thing but I haven't been here long enough to know whether or not blind linking to /. was actually as crappy as it felt.
[21:37:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:1, Flamebait) 02Re:Slashdot - 06German Prosecutor Fired over Treason Investigation - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:17] <exec> 08└─You know what would make everyone feel better? Submit a story.
[21:37:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lunix Nutcase [3913] (Score:2) 02Re:Slashdot - 06German Prosecutor Fired over Treason Investigation - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:19] <exec> 08└─That's a pretty tragic first-world problem you got there.
[21:37:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Refugee from beyond [2699] (Score:2) 02Re:Slashdot - 06German Prosecutor Fired over Treason Investigation - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:20] <exec> 08└─We've got plenty of problems here in Russia, including yours “first-world” ones.
[21:37:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lunix Nutcase [3913] (Score:2) 02Re:Slashdot - 06German Prosecutor Fired over Treason Investigation - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:22] <exec> 08└─Don't worry, I'm playing the world's smallest violin for your tragedy.
[21:37:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02flesh eating - 06German Prosecutor Fired over Treason Investigation - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:24] <exec> 08└─I don't get it. NSA can spy. german intelligence wants to do the same. bloger gets wind, blows the whistle and gets accused of treason. the accuser gets fired. - seems correct, but maybe the privacy eating gangrene should be amputated a bit more higher up, maybe above the neck, were normally "intell...
[21:37:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Vague News - 06German Prosecutor Fired over Treason Investigation - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:25] <exec> 08└─Hey, so you know that guy who did that thing? It turns out some other guy did some other thing. I know, right?
[21:37:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] 02Comcast? - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 399 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:27] <exec> 08└─So how will this affect those on limited plans or with hidden caps? It will make the average user appear more like the Pirate Bay user. Also is there anyway way one could only pull updates from specific IP address ranges? One other question that jumps to my mind is can someone use this to push o...
[21:37:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jiro [3176] (Score:2) 02Re:Comcast? - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:37:31] <exec> 08└─I was under the impression that Windows 10 will not let you set every type of connection as metered.
[21:37:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Pity I didn't learn about this last night. - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:37:34] <exec> 08└─Those are pretty great. Thanks for sharing. I'm still baffled at the amount of places they report home in an OS. I watched a few hours of the keynote earlier this year, so I knew that there would be the Cortana stuff, but wow, man. It's kind of out of hand.
[21:37:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lunix Nutcase [3913] (Score:2) 02Re:WoW P2P updates? - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:37:39] <exec> 08└─So your complaint is that it will have a larger swarm and thus each user will have to upload less? Oh the horrors!
[21:37:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:WoW P2P updates? - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:37:41] <exec> 08└─Higher demand. There's a lot of computers that will eat your poor, maltreated upband.
[21:37:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Re:WoW P2P updates? - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:37:42] <exec> 08└─The amount each user uploads isn't tied to the size of the swarm, but to the ratio of uploaders to downloaders in the swarm. Doubling the size of a swarm, while holding that ratio constant, will have no impact on the amount of data each uploader contributes.
[21:37:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Re:Try Google for solution. - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:37:45] <exec> 08└─Wow, you're really good at Google and everyone else in the world is an idiot. Oh, wait. Or maybe you missed the point entirely. The concern is not so much "is it difficult for someone aware of this behavior to find a way to disable it?" but rather "is this behavior most users would expect?" and "is...
[21:37:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Try Google for solution. - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:37:47] <exec> 08└─It's a new/rebuilt operating system, It's going to have some different stuff. Surely the article could have at least posted the link to the microsoft article explaining what is is, and how to turn it off, but no, lets scare everyone instead. I personally don't like Windows, the only reason I have a...
[21:37:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Better technology - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 548 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:49] <exec> 08└─Isn't peer-to-peer delivery the most socially optimal way to use the limited overall bandwidth of the internet? Shouldn't we be encouraging companies to do things this way, as opposed to having a simply massive number of servers saturating a number of network links sending the same 1's and 0's to ea...
[21:37:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lunix Nutcase [3913] (Score:2) 02Re:Better technology - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:37:51] <exec> 08└─Since this involves Microsoft it is automatically wrong and evil. Regardless that others do it as well.
[21:37:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Better technology - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:37:53] <exec> 08└─We're talking about P2P tech here, not operating systems!
[21:37:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Better technology - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:37:55] <exec> 08└─But that doesn't suit his internal narrative, which is that everyone else automatically thinks Microsoft are an evil crowd when they're simply some poor hardworking businesspeople who are just doing what they have to in order to get by.
[21:37:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Better technology - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:37:57] <exec> 08└─My fuzzy feeling ends when I remember than my upload bw is much lower than my download, and they neither ask permission nor warn you that this is happening. This is also OS level stuff. Steam/Blizzard? Yeah, whatever. I can quit those if I think it's causing an issue. I mean, I know you can turn thi...
[21:37:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Re:Better technology - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:37:58] <exec> 08└─I thought the same thing. I'd use it if it was open and secure, for some content delivery like updates. It makes a lot of sense. Not if it's shoved down your throat, tho.
[21:37:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02more bandwidth pls! - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:38:00] <exec> 08└─good or not, it will teach them lazy global network phiber operators to invest in new hardware/cable and not just router-optimize to a huge-single-data-node/warehouse : )
[21:38:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Sounds reasonable - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:38:02] <exec> 08└─If you're taking advantage of the fast downloads from other users, it's not unreasonable to be uploading to other users too. As long as Windows offers a chance to opt out of course, where you download directly (and possibly more slowly) from Microsoft, it seems to be a more efficient way to use the...
[21:38:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sounds reasonable - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:38:04] <exec> 08└─I think the point is that you don't know it's happening. "Delivery optimization" doesn't exactly let you know that you're going to be using your limited bandwidth to upload. My ISP's contract specifically forbids this kind of thing. If I had installed Windows 10 I could be cut off.
[21:38:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02SKUs - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:38:06] <exec> 08└─However, only some SKUs (stock-keeping units) -- notably Windows 10 Home and Windows 10 Pro
[21:38:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02What intersection at Melbourne? - 06Hackers Can Seize Control of Electric Skateboards and Toss Riders - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:38:12] <exec> 08└─[The attack] is basically a synthetic version of the same RF noise [at that intersection in Melbourne]
[21:38:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Anonymity - 06EFF Lead Coalition Announces "Do Not Track" Redux - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:38:26] <exec> 08└─And they will never get in trouble for lying, just as copyright thugs never get in trouble for misusing the unconstitutional garbage known as the DMCA.
[21:38:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Anonymity - 06EFF Lead Coalition Announces "Do Not Track" Redux - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:38:28] <exec> 08└─> And they will never get in trouble for lying, Because the FTC never enforces [ftc.gov] privacy [pcworld.com] regulations. [cnn.com] Never [forbes.com] ever [ftc.gov] happens. [techtimes.com]
[21:38:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Anonymity - 06EFF Lead Coalition Announces "Do Not Track" Redux - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:38:29] <exec> 08└─This is the previous system. This is merely a voluntary code of conduct that people can use to promise that they're using the previous system in a client-friendly way.
[21:38:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03d [523] (Score:2) 02Re:Click Here - 06EFF Lead Coalition Announces "Do Not Track" Redux - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:38:31] <exec> 08└─I clicked and nothing happened.
[21:38:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03miljo [5757] (Score:1) 02Re:Click Here - 06EFF Lead Coalition Announces "Do Not Track" Redux - 5 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:38:33] <exec> 08└─weird
[21:38:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Click Here - 06EFF Lead Coalition Announces "Do Not Track" Redux - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:38:34] <exec> 08└─Thanks funny, too, since it makes a reference to your post... but I really thought you'd maybe say woosh and explain how PT Barnum had a saying.
[21:38:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03DarkMorph [674] (Score:2) 02Re:apache logs and grep... - 06Ask Soylent: FOSS Equivalent to "Google Analytics" - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:38:50] <exec> 08└─Well I certainly haven't. Google Analytics is one of the few things that all of my 3 layers of browser JS protection filters prevent from running by default.
[21:38:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:HAHAHAHAHA - 06Ask Soylent: FOSS Equivalent to "Google Analytics" - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:38:57] <exec> 08└─No one ever got fired for using GA.
[21:39:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03hedleyroos [4974] (Score:1) 02Re:Wow nice place you live in - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:39:44] <exec> 08└─1. False dichotomy. 2. Some people are naturally competitive. Not everyone is like you.
[21:39:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wow nice place you live in - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:39:45] <exec> 08└─It is not about being rich or poor. It is about relative market value. The "poor" can have houses made out of gold bricks as long as those of higher market value make more in proportion to the difference in market value.
[21:39:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wow nice place you live in - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:39:50] <exec> 08└─> I don't think this is a political point so much as a human nature point. We are all limited by our experiences. It seems like a human nature point to you because that is your nature. You will find it very difficult to understand that not everyone perceives the world the way you do.
[21:39:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03githaron [581] (Score:2) 02Re:Wow nice place you live in - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 670 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:39:52] <exec> 08└─What is hard to understand? If you spent years cultivating your skills and have a lot of responsibilities in order to make your current wage and the new low-skill guy with significantly less responsibilities comes in and immediately starts making the same or almost the same as you, you aren't going...
[21:39:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Wow nice place you live in - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:39:54] <exec> 08└─Someone else getting a raise doesn't cheapen your pay.
[21:39:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Wow nice place you live in - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:39:55] <exec> 08└─That is "fixed pool" The funny thing is I originally typoed it as "fixed pull", then manage to correct it wrong.
[21:39:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Bot [3902] 02sign of the times (for all the times) - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 175 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:40:00] <exec> 08└─Suck money out of people in every conceivable way, and nobody bats an eye raise the minimum wage and everybody loses their mind. The system, the beast if you like, it is real.
[21:40:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] 02Re:sign of the times (for all the times) - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 1594 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:40:02] <exec> 08└─Raising the minimum wage is a good idea but also a stupid idea, for the reasons outlined in the article. Even more ridiculous is raising the minimum wage for some industries (fast-food) but not others. I've said over and over again that I don't mind raising wages, as long as we keep the middle-class...
[21:40:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Daiv [3940] (Score:2) 02Re:sign of the times (for all the times) - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 745 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:40:04] <exec> 08└─Yes, and in the same article they said many restaurants closed down because of the raise in minimum wage! Oh wait, YOU inserted the word "many", changing the story. The article says "Some workers", "some workers", and "some workers". In fact, all three are referring to the same "some workers." The o...
[21:40:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Re:Juicy organic delight - 06T-Minus 11 Days to Perihelion, Rosetta's Comet Up Close and in 3D - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:40:27] <exec> 08└─Thank you for confirming that the surface was determined to be mostly dust instead of ice.
[21:40:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Juicy organic delight - 06T-Minus 11 Days to Perihelion, Rosetta's Comet Up Close and in 3D - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:40:29] <exec> 08└─So what is "crusty"? How deep is the ice?
[21:40:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03chrysosphinx [5262] (Score:1) 02Re:text to voice software - 06Apple Wants Siri to be Your New Receptionist - 394 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:40:54] <exec> 08└─espeak http://espeak.sourceforge.net [sourceforge.net] is in almost every linux distro, it works slightly better with mbrola phonems http://tcts.fpms.ac.be [fpms.ac.be] , some people even managed to convert it to a true vocaloid http://alternativeto.net
[21:41:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonTechie [2275] (Score:2) 02Re:Willing partners? - 06Caterpillar Chemical Turns Ants Into Bodyguards - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:41:12] <exec> 08└─New Theory on Consciousness: There is No Free Will [soylentnews.org]
[21:42:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Religions cause violence - 06Indian Government Orders ISPs to Block 857 Porn Websites - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:42:38] <exec> 08└─Sorry about the smell. What is a "wiff"? westerners have had some influence on view of sexuality OF India IN the west.
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[22:37:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Thank God for Death - 06Sex With Robots to Be 'the Norm' in 50 Years, Expert Claims - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:37:04] <exec> 08└─It is unlikely that I will ever live to see this. I do not want to be a part of a species that prefers sex machines to human beings, regardless of how real it may seem.
[22:37:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:0, Flamebait) 02Re:Thank God for Death - 06Sex With Robots to Be 'the Norm' in 50 Years, Expert Claims - 556 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:37:05] <exec> 08└─I'm in a phase now, as a lot of people are, where even a lot less than* sex with a machine is preferable to sex with other humans. For starters, there's no having to leave your house, no having to pretend to care about all the uninteresting bullshit they're yapping about, no need for phoney flattery...
[22:37:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Re:Thank God for Death - 06Sex With Robots to Be 'the Norm' in 50 Years, Expert Claims - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:37:07] <exec> 08└─You aren't alone. [theguardian.com]
[22:37:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score:2) 02Re:Thank God for Death - 06Sex With Robots to Be 'the Norm' in 50 Years, Expert Claims - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:37:08] <exec> 08└─Even prostitutes are a pain in the ass
[22:37:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Thank God for Death - 06Sex With Robots to Be 'the Norm' in 50 Years, Expert Claims - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:37:10] <exec> 08└─Millions of fleshbots turned slowly to face mendax, staring intently as he declared his wish for death. As mendax sat quietly, the fleshbots started to rub their genitals. After a tense moment of squishing noises, the fleshbots began searching their surroundings for scrap parts to fuck.
[22:37:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Thank God for Death - 06Sex With Robots to Be 'the Norm' in 50 Years, Expert Claims - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:37:12] <exec> 08└─> I do not want to be a part of a species that prefers sex machines to human beings, regardless of how real it may seem. It isn't going to be a case of either-or. It's going to be a case of what you feel like today. Hell, half the human race is already having very satisfying sex with robots today it...
[22:37:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Thank God for Death - 06Sex With Robots to Be 'the Norm' in 50 Years, Expert Claims - 1091 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:37:13] <exec> 08└─Calling a vibrator a robot and saying it counts as sex with a robot is to strip the word robot of any meaning. I wake up in the morning when my robot goes off. I turn on the robots so I can see. Then a robot brushes my teeth. Then I get shaved by a robot. Then I come downstairs and get served coffee...
[22:37:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Wooooooo! - 06Sex With Robots to Be 'the Norm' in 50 Years, Expert Claims - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:37:15] <exec> 08└─I'm fifty years ahead of the curve!
[22:37:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Why? - 06Sex With Robots to Be 'the Norm' in 50 Years, Expert Claims - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:37:17] <exec> 08└─Just as real people are all ugly, robots will also be ugly. Just another thing to ignore. What we really need is real virtual reality.
[22:37:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaganar [605] (Score:2) 02Fufme! - 06Sex With Robots to Be 'the Norm' in 50 Years, Expert Claims - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:37:18] <exec> 08└─Anyone reminded of this classic site [easylife.org]? I miss you, old internet. :)
[22:37:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03nyder [4525] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't be so presumptuous - 06German Prosecutor Fired over Treason Investigation - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:37:24] <exec> 08└─Not only did I read about, but the people clearly said this was going to happen. You want to lose your prosecutor job in Germany? Bring up treason charges against the press.
[22:37:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02Re:Comcast? - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 1008 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:37:45] <exec> 08└─By a simple setting you can tell windows 10 that your connection is metered, and it won't do WuDO. By another simple setting you can tell Windows 10 not to use WUDO at all, regardless of connection type. Articles on how to do this are all over the web. Microsoft foresaw your worry about bogus malici...
[22:37:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Re:Comcast? - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:37:50] <exec> 08└─Windows 10 is supports WSUS, so enterprise users can continue to use the same proxy update servers they've been using.
[22:37:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03pixeldyne [2637] (Score:4, Funny) 02Re:Pity I didn't learn about this last night. - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:37:55] <exec> 08└─Win10 is awesome, so feature rich that I'll never run out of things to disable 😅
[22:38:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03iWantToKeepAnon [686] (Score:2) 02Re:WoW P2P updates? - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:38:04] <exec> 08└─So you downloaded patches VIA p2p networks. That's fine. Or are you saying the game turned your computer INTO the p2p network? If users download win10 patches VIA a p2p network, that's one thing. The os by default turning you INTO the p2p network, well that's another.
[22:38:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03skullz [2532] (Score:2) 02Re:WoW P2P updates? - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:38:05] <exec> 08└─I... wha... 7! AFAIK the Bliz downloader makes you a peer on the network. Otherwise you really aren't using P2P, you are tapping into a large redundant network. So VIA as INTO.
[22:38:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Better technology - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 651 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:38:16] <exec> 08└─That they don't tell you is the key, as far as I'm concerned. I have very low upload bandwidth, and my contract won't allow me to install an upload service or a P2P server. Had I installed Windows 10 response times would increase to unpleasant levels, my ISP would investigate, and I'd run the risk o...
[22:38:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03pixeldyne [2637] (Score:2) 02Great if it was Lan only - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:38:18] <exec> 08└─It'd be great if there was a setting to make it work on LAN only, I could update all machines without hogging the DSL and would save money on WSUS. Half baked idea, it seems there's a lot of "if only" with Microsoft. oh well, another opportunity for 3rd party vendors to implement it (for home comput...
[22:38:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Great if it was Lan only - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:38:19] <exec> 08└─I think that there actually an option for that.
[22:38:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03tynin [2013] (Score:2) 02Re:Better technology - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 466 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:38:21] <exec> 08└─I think the best option is to only have it utilized over the LAN. Fetch once and the whole local network gets a copy without having to go back upstream. This would largely solve the problem of needing to redownload numerous patches when one of your computers gets reinstalled, as another local one wo...
[22:38:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:more bandwidth pls! - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:38:23] <exec> 08└─You shortened fiber by making it longer?
[22:38:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:SKUs - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 1019 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:38:26] <exec> 08└─I though it explained it enough; I thought it meant that some of the differing licenses in their product lines had the behavior by default, and then they list two of those products, but not the SKUs directly. It is somewhat of a legacy term, predating distribution... but not really with an updated t...
[22:38:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03carguy [568] (Score:2) 02Re:wait .... - 06Hackers Can Seize Control of Electric Skateboards and Toss Riders - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:38:39] <exec> 08└─http://xkcd.com/139/ [xkcd.com] "I Have Owned Two Electric Skateboards"
[22:39:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03gawdonblue [412] (Score:1) 02That is a heavy coalition - 06EFF Lead Coalition Announces "Do Not Track" Redux - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:39:02] <exec> 08└─Perhaps they should consider a lighter metal to alloy themselves with.
[22:39:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:HAHAHAHAHA - 06Ask Soylent: FOSS Equivalent to "Google Analytics" - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:39:28] <exec> 08└─I recommend nodeJs for this...
[22:40:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Morale - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:40:02] <exec> 08└─Those employees don't sound like the brightest in the bunch.
[22:40:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Re:Morale - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 538 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:40:04] <exec> 08└─No amount of announcement timing would make the slightest difference in this case. You simply can't screw with an established pay grade scale system and expect everything to come up smelling of roses, no matter what your motivation. Changing the base pay rate, fine - as long as everyone above that g...
[22:40:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wow nice place you live in - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 781 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:40:30] <exec> 08└─> Why stick around if you know you won't be getting a decent raise ever again? You seem to be commingling two independent concepts: (1) The ability to find a higher paying job somewhere else (2) The company's compensation policies With respect to (1) - people have been leaving their job for greener...
[22:42:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:what a shame - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 457 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:42:19] <exec> 08└─My mother, father, and siblings were raised well enough to not be so goddamn stupid. If I had a child, they would have been supervised and raised to not be so goddamn stupid. What I said is my opinion, and you're free to disagree with it. But you're right about one thing, it is logical fallacy day -...
[22:42:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:what a shame - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 613 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:42:21] <exec> 08└─It's almost funny that you're demanding a sympathetic mindset from him, because he does raise a fundamentally valid point, and all you raise is a false dichotomy. The valid point is that nature is wild. You fuck around with something that hasn't been tamed, and anything that happens is your own faul...
[22:42:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:what a shame - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 985 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:42:22] <exec> 08└─Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, but what I get from his post is that he is the type that would have learned something from his actions. Most of the responses here are of the "Oh the poor dear! Somebody should do something about these wild animals!" type. Someone did something incredibly stupid, the r...
[22:42:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:what a shame - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:42:25] <exec> 08└─I think my friend said it best when he said "Cut the Jesus crap and make with the pies."
[22:42:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Evolution - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:42:44] <exec> 08└─Do not confuse stupid with does not know.
[22:44:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Post-Nihilist [5672] (Score:1) 02Re:let's examine the reasons why people drink - 06Scientists Say Avoiding Hangovers Could Come Down to Pre-"Pear"-ation - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:44:00] <exec> 08└─Few months ago, I drank when my grandmother past away, alcohol made the pain temporary duller, while time did it's work. At work we like to have some beer on Friday while we go out for dinner; 2 pints of beers provides us euphoria and enhance the meal. (we drink local brew paired with the food) I am...
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[23:37:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:3, Insightful) 02What Nonsense: - 06Op-Ed: How I Gave Up Alternating Current - 518 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:37:11] <exec> 08└─What he's doing isn't sustainability but rather exporting the polluting portion to other places. One nit, among many: Buying new clothes rather than washing them? Let him try that for a whole city or nation worth of people. He's greenwashing himself as hard as he can and then breaking his arm pattin...
[23:37:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:What Nonsense: - 06Op-Ed: How I Gave Up Alternating Current - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:37:12] <exec> 08└─Let him try that for a whole city or nation worth of people. ... and is just more marketing for his liquid-diet goop.
[23:37:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What Nonsense: - 06Op-Ed: How I Gave Up Alternating Current - 636 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:37:14] <exec> 08└─This comes to mind. https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] I get you are trying to 'lower your usage'. But the epic level of douchebagary here is amazing. To lower your footprint you buy/make things and then reuse the hell out of them....
[23:37:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Re:What Nonsense: - 06Op-Ed: How I Gave Up Alternating Current - 1678 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:37:16] <exec> 08└─Not only that, but he's absolutely wrong in several blatantly obvious ways. He rails against Tesla, because electricity comes from fossil fuels and by his math, a Tesla gets like 20 miles per gallon. His obvious wrong assumption is that all power comes from fossil fuels - he even mentioned nuclear e...
[23:37:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02I like cooking - 06Op-Ed: How I Gave Up Alternating Current - 936 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:37:17] <exec> 08└─I might be in the minority, but I like cooking. I'm good at it. I'm kind of feeling like Rhinehart is a little out of touch with anything outside his own limited world view. I check the weather in San Francisco. It's 66 degrees. Must be nice. It's 85 here, just down from the 91 it was earlier. His l...
[23:37:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:I like cooking - 06Op-Ed: How I Gave Up Alternating Current - 825 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:37:19] <exec> 08└─"I'm kind of feeling like Rhinehart is a little out of touch with anything outside his own limited world view." Got that right. I also like saving money. Cooking your own food can save you a bundle. If I eat out, three times a day, it can cost me around $20 per day. For that same amount of money I c...
[23:37:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Pare things down - 06Op-Ed: How I Gave Up Alternating Current - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:37:20] <exec> 08└─Why not keep all your appliances and generate more energy than what you consume?
[23:37:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Just use the comments at the article - 06Op-Ed: How I Gave Up Alternating Current - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:37:22] <exec> 08└─I suggest reading the comments at Ars, and authors webpage as they pretty much cover all of it.
[23:37:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why? - 06Sex With Robots to Be 'the Norm' in 50 Years, Expert Claims - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:37:37] <exec> 08└─Real ugly virtual reality?
[23:37:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03dingus [5224] (Score:1) 02Not quite with robots - 06Sex With Robots to Be 'the Norm' in 50 Years, Expert Claims - 610 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:37:40] <exec> 08└─I think that if this prediction comes true at all, it won't be in the literal sense. We(meaning I) won't be having sex with robots unless they can do such good impersonations of humans that they might as well be humans in their own right. Why do I say that? Well, for me at least(and I assume with ma...
[23:37:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02Sex with robots: - 06Sex With Robots to Be 'the Norm' in 50 Years, Expert Claims - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:37:41] <exec> 08└─But, will it be animated and talk in John Candy's voice? "What if I come home and find you humping the toaster?" "You'll just have to trust me!"
[23:37:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03istartedi [123] (Score:3, Funny) 02My God! He never took middle school hygiene. - 06Sex With Robots to Be 'the Norm' in 50 Years, Expert Claims - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:37:43] <exec> 08└─He never saw the propaganda film. [vimeo.com]
[23:37:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02laughable - 06Sex With Robots to Be 'the Norm' in 50 Years, Expert Claims - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:37:45] <exec> 08└─Would you feel cheated on if your partner had sex with a robot?
[23:37:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Hollywood already covered this - 06Sex With Robots to Be 'the Norm' in 50 Years, Expert Claims - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:37:46] <exec> 08└─Cherry 2000 [imdb.com] I guess that the forecast was a bit optimistic; they said 2017 instead of 2070.
[23:37:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Hollywood already covered this - 06Sex With Robots to Be 'the Norm' in 50 Years, Expert Claims - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:37:48] <exec> 08└─It's also slightly more post-apocalyptic than current-day America.
[23:37:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02OMG - 06Sex With Robots to Be 'the Norm' in 50 Years, Expert Claims - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:37:49] <exec> 08└─"He didn't watch the after school special!"
[23:37:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:OMG - 06Sex With Robots to Be 'the Norm' in 50 Years, Expert Claims - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:37:51] <exec> 08└─https://vimeo.com/12915013 [vimeo.com]
[23:37:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02At least when I blow something up - 06Sex With Robots to Be 'the Norm' in 50 Years, Expert Claims - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:37:53] <exec> 08└─It's a doll, not a bomb.
[23:38:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:Slashdot - 06German Prosecutor Fired over Treason Investigation - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:38:05] <exec> 08└─Aargh! The SJWDot! it burnses us! We hates it forever! You know what would make everyone feel better? Submit a story.
[23:38:29] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03pixeldyne [2637] 02Re:Pity I didn't learn about this last night. - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 83 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:38:30] <exec> 08└─Win10 is awesome, so feature rich that I'll never run out of things to disable 😅
[23:38:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Better technology - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:38:50] <exec> 08└─Imagine what would happen if millions of Windows users got banned by their ISPs due to this Windows 10 feature. I wonder who would get more backlash, Microsoft or the ISPs.
[23:39:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02security? - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:39:01] <exec> 08└─i'm just curious if anyone has looked into the security behind WUDO because it seems like an obvious vector for abuse.
[23:39:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02In theory, I don't mind - 06Windows 10 Commandeers Users' Upload Bandwidth - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:39:02] <exec> 08└─I mean, it's not like I use even half my upload bandwidth. In practice, given Microsoft's horrendous security record, no effin way do I want this running on my machine.
[23:39:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:Anonymity - 06EFF Lead Coalition Announces "Do Not Track" Redux - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:39:35] <exec> 08└─Ah, apparently I skimmed too quickly! I stand corrected.
[23:40:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Improving others' lives doesn't cheapen yours - 06All Staff Pay Raise Backfires on Credit Card Processing Firm - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:40:45] <exec> 08└─and inflation?
[23:42:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02We have that too! - 06Caterpillar Chemical Turns Ants Into Bodyguards - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:42:33] <exec> 08└─It's called female hormones.
[23:43:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02In Soviet Russia - 06Rangers Warn: Don't Take a Selfie With a Bison - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:43:31] <exec> 08└─Bison takes selfie with YOU. With your phone. And your bleeding body. And posts it to your Facebook profile.
[23:45:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:In barely-related news - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:30] <exec> 08└─>I know it's irrational to judge a product by the behavior of its creator, but this seriously killed any interest I may have had in Soylent the Food. It's a clear-cut example of the ad hominem fallacy. Even "I prefer REAL food" is a better argument.
[23:45:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Common misunderstanding - 06Soylent 2.0 is Coming: Food Replacement Premixed in Bottles - 1481 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:40] <exec> 08└─A lot of people have extremely polarized initial reactions to Soylent and similar products. The number one misunderstanding I see is that you do not have to eat Soylent exclusively. You can occasionally eat Soylent for a single meal or a snack and indulge in all the caviar, hamburgers, and ice cream...
[23:45:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Not a big problem - 06DNS Server Attacks Begin Using BIND Software Flaw - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:54] <exec> 08└─This isn't a very big problem at all unless a root nameserver goes down for a lengthy period of time. Patch is already out, and this is simply denial of service, not a security issue. If you're using a cache like pdnsd, you might not even notice if your DNS server goes down.
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