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[00:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02I wish - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 437 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:13:22] <exec> 08└─That would only work if we either abolish capitalism or give everyone a baseline living wage. There also needs to be a change in social perception that it's perfectly okay to be unemployed. Ideally, we tell all of the pencil-pushers to stop coming to work and hire a few thousand decent programmers t...
[00:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03CRCulver [4390] (Score:2) 02Re:I wish - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:13:23] <exec> 08└─There also needs to be a change in social perception that it's perfectly okay to be unemployed.
[00:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I wish - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:13:26] <exec> 08└─Talking about Unix when everyone here loves Linux? You must be some kind of Troll.
[00:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I wish - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:13:27] <exec> 08└─If you really think that 30-60% of payroll can be eliminated easily by a few programmers, then do it. Get contracts. Make billions. What kind of an idiot MBA wouldn't beat down your door to reduce their employment costs by 30-60%?
[00:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Wishful thinking - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 694 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:13:29] <exec> 08└─This is completely sci-fi. The part about automation rendering jobs obsolete is true, the part about basic necessities having negligible cost is fantasy. Energy isn't cheap, and it's getting more expensive. Gasoline is only going to get more expensive, and even if we manage to convert to cheap renew...
[00:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Re:Wishful thinking - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 1849 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:13:31] <exec> 08└─The "inputs" (energy, raw material, and in some sense land) aren't really an issue. Land is the only one that really is intractable until Standard Western Culture kicks in everywhere and women start having babies at below replacement rates. Once populations stabilize and then start to decline, as th...
[00:13:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:Wishful thinking - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:13:33] <exec> 08└─How are people going to afford to pay these expenses without gainful employment?
[00:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02BBBUT BITCOIN - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:13:34] <exec> 08└─We have already seen such a transition when certain resources got too cheap to meter - like computing resources. The resource named "CPU time" is no longer rationed
[00:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Sock Puppets - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:13:36] <exec> 08└─In other words, every industry is disruptible by technology. Presumably, banking and punditry are forever?
[00:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ken_g6 [3706] (Score:3, Informative) 02Original article - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:13:38] <exec> 08└─...is here: https://www.washingtonpost.com [washingtonpost.com]
[00:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02I hate singularitarians - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 1640 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:13:39] <exec> 08└─Some of these predictions are undermined by pressure release valves, others are undermined by pressures he's ignoring. One is thing to keep in mind is that it is entirely possible for significant numbers of households to transition from being two-income households to being one-income households. The...
[00:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Change We Can! - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:13:41] <exec> 08└─Well let's see now. All of you idiots voted for The Bama, isn't that right? What exactly Changed? Anything? Hmm? Anything? Oh. Right. The color of Your Leader's skin Changed. WOW. That's some Change!!!
[00:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03throwaway28 [5181] (Score:1) 02Success ? - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:13:43] <exec> 08└─Erm . . . the title is "Love of learning is the key to success", but interpolating the title from the article, "Love of learning is the key to not being bored when unemployed", feels closer.
[00:13:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02SN headlines start to ... - 06What Amateurs Can Learn From Security Pros About Staying Safe Online - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:13:51] <exec> 08└─"Amateur" vs. "Security Pros"? Keep going that way and this site will die away in no time.
[00:14:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:DOS attacks - 06New York Magazine Goes Dark After Posting Cosby Article - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:14:45] <exec> 08└─You are the only person I have ever seen, in twenty years, complaining about this let alone spelling that acronym with a lowercase "O". So if you ever feel alone on this issue, that is because you probably are.
[00:15:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Notabadguy [5730] (Score:1) 02Re:Hopefully a good move - 06Dice Selling Slashdot and Sourceforge - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:15:34] <exec> 08└─I created an account here just to test this theory.
[00:15:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03mmlj4 [5451] (Score:1) 02Re:Hopefully a good move - 06Dice Selling Slashdot and Sourceforge - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:15:36] <exec> 08└─Tinfoil hat time! I don't get the game plan... sure, they've been caught out and so it's time to sell, but let's think about this for a while. Sourceforge's reputation is gone, pissed away in an effort to monetize open source software. They also destroyed freshmeat --- had to, if there was ever goin...
[00:15:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Tork [3914] 02Re:Hopefully a good move - 06Dice Selling Slashdot and Sourceforge - 1226 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:15:44] <exec> 08└─That was actually caused by the moderation system. It doesn't work by raising the signal to noise ratio, it works by turning mod points into a game. Sharks with laser-beams? Lots of people with mod-points thought that was worth a funny-mod. So what's the difference? Yesterday Slashdot posted a st...
[00:16:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:Full List Of Potential Buyers... - 06Dice Selling Slashdot and Sourceforge - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:16:17] <exec> 08└─"M"illions of users instead of "B"illions. Even the /. trolls should grade better than a M on the Brave New World scale. That's pretty harsh.
[00:16:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03bryan [29] (Score:2) 02Re:Full List Of Potential Buyers... - 06Dice Selling Slashdot and Sourceforge - 1017 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:16:18] <exec> 08└─No. An "M" is the first letter in Million while a "B" is the first letter in Billion. A number of Facebook's recent acquisitions [wikipedia.org] have been in the billions. Namely, Instagram at 1 billion, WhatsApp at 19 billion, and Oculus VR at 2 billion. In Brave New World, the population is born i...
[00:18:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nollij [4559] (Score:2) 02Re:Land of the [censored], home of the [censored] - 06Hologram Performance Shut Down by Police at Hip-Hop Festival - 814 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:18:16] <exec> 08└─There is an extensive amount of case law on this exact issue. Most notably, a number of cases involving the KKK. For example: "The Court held that government cannot punish inflammatory speech unless that speech is directed to inciting, and is likely to incite, imminent lawless action" [wikipedia.org...
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[01:13:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Cutesy Names more important than Real Work - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:13:21] <exec> 08└─Well that's it. The Internet is finished. Marketing has taken control of everything and no further work will be done. Ever.
[01:13:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] 02Science Fiction - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 542 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:13:30] <exec> 08└─Now I love Science Fiction as much as the next guy, but I don't pretend that the Culture type future the author of this article is predicting is actually going to happen. As I read I kept thinking "Citation Needed" after nearly every paragraph. Why would renewable energy sources be free? The infrast...
[01:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:I wish - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:36] <exec> 08└─What kind of an idiot MBA wouldn't beat down your door to reduce their employment costs by 30-60%?
[01:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I wish - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:38] <exec> 08└─If he is an idiot, he would not realize it until the contract was signed. If he isn't an idiot, he will only sign a contract for others to be replaced. There really is no way to lose...if it can be pulled off. There is no evidence that it can't be done save for the weak evidence that it has not alre...
[01:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Troll) 02Re:Wishful thinking - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:40] <exec> 08└─once someone has nothing you can't take anything away from them anymore. You can drive them into debt but that's only useful as a tool to keep taking from them what little they have left. Once they're in debt, can't pay, have nothing else to take, and no income, the game is over. Once you do that to...
[01:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Wishful thinking - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:42] <exec> 08└─There was one guy, his name is practically synonymous with violent revolution that ended up spurring several rounds of just what you say never happened. His name: Karl Marx.
[01:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Re:Wishful thinking - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 662 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:44] <exec> 08└─I think you completely mis-parsed that sentence, friend. I'm at least going to charitably interpret your rage as thus misplaced and try to make my point more clearly. When millions of people become impoverished and begin to starve, they will riot and break things. Some of that violence will be direc...
[01:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I hate singularitarians - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:48] <exec> 08└─Only slaves and indentured servants move to get a job.
[01:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I hate singularitarians - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:50] <exec> 08└─Maybe after that world war there will be some countries (white ones) where men can marry girl children?
[01:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Change We Can! - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:51] <exec> 08└─All of you idiots voted for The Bama, isn't that right? What exactly Changed?
[01:13:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Fuck yer Learnding - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:13:53] <exec> 08└─Gimme free shit for free. Right now. You faggot ass faggot. I aint' lernding shit.
[01:13:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Lawyers - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:13:55] <exec> 08└─Presumably, banking and punditry are forever?
[01:14:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:Van Eck - 06Researchers Hack Air-Gapped Computer With Simple Cell Phone - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:14:20] <exec> 08└─I'm divided (mod down for picking on the poor guy?|try to get this thing up to the elusive +5 troll!), so I will give you a virtual +0 facepalm [tinypic.com] mod.
[01:15:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02It isn't, apparently. IANAL - 06 So Far, Wordpress Denied 43% of DMCA Takedown Requests in 2015 - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:15:23] <exec> 08└─Isn't it perjury to submit a fraudulent takedown?
[01:15:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Simple answer, reject the premise - 06 So Far, Wordpress Denied 43% of DMCA Takedown Requests in 2015 - 896 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:15:24] <exec> 08└─These 3rd party automated services appear to work on the principle of swarming so many takedown notices that humans can't process them all so you must simply automate and as a practical matter allow their bot to directly remove content from your site. The only answer is to reject the premise. Ban au...
[01:15:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02The law on fraudulent takedown requests - 06 So Far, Wordpress Denied 43% of DMCA Takedown Requests in 2015 - 858 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:15:27] <exec> 08└─Making a fraudulent DMCA takedown request is supposed to be perjury, according to 17 USC § 512(f) [copyright.gov], but that law just says the following: (f) Misrepresentations. - Any person who knowingly materially misrepresents under this section — (1) that material or activity is infringing, or...
[01:16:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Hopefully a good move - 06Dice Selling Slashdot and Sourceforge - 1561 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:16:13] <exec> 08└─There's three or four different problems that the moderation system needs to address. (Some of them it successfully addresses.) One that isn't well addressed is that some people like different subjects than other people. But they system has no abstract category awareness. (My suspicion is that this...
[01:16:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Full List Of Potential Buyers... - 06Dice Selling Slashdot and Sourceforge - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:16:39] <exec> 08└─Do you *really* think I didn't know it was millions vs. billions?!??!?
[01:16:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Carriers must fix this - 06Silent MMS Exploit Affecting All Android Phones Since 2.2 - 754 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:16:55] <exec> 08└─This would require people to buy their own phone instead of lease them from the carrier. And apparently few would buy the high end phones they currently lease so the handset makers would cry when the next quarterly report came out. If people cared they can buy unlocked phones now. But they don't get...
[01:17:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02at the risk of being flamed/modded out of existenc - 06Silent MMS Exploit Affecting All Android Phones Since 2.2 - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:17:08] <exec> 08└─It's times like this that I am glad to be a fanboi . . . I am glad I am live in the walled garden . . .
[01:18:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Land of the [censored], home of the [censored] - 06Hologram Performance Shut Down by Police at Hip-Hop Festival - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:18:35] <exec> 08└─> how can you say [elided] Erm, where do I say that? I said that *they* said that. Read for comprehension next time.
[01:18:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Land of the [censored], home of the [censored] - 06Hologram Performance Shut Down by Police at Hip-Hop Festival - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:18:38] <exec> 08└─What was the imminent threat to public safety in Skokie? Waving a logo is clear 1st amendment. Logos do not say "kill now". I've been to ice-hockey matches with more aggressive "fighting words" than skokie. And we laughed and drank with each other after the match.
[01:18:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Land of the [censored], home of the [censored] - 06Hologram Performance Shut Down by Police at Hip-Hop Festival - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:18:42] <exec> 08└─> ... listen to what you just said. It gives authorities carte blanche ... Straw man. At what point do I say that authorities should not be fully accountable?
[01:18:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Land of the [censored], home of the [censored] - 06Hologram Performance Shut Down by Police at Hip-Hop Festival - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:18:44] <exec> 08└─> I hope you can understand why some folks just don't give a damn about a court ruling meant to convict draft dodgers Hell yeah. I learnt almost everything I know about the US constitution from a (vietnam, rather than WWI) draft dodger. However, idealism does not decide legal cases.
[01:18:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Land of the [censored], home of the [censored] - 06Hologram Performance Shut Down by Police at Hip-Hop Festival - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:18:47] <exec> 08└─The summary of the article itself says that they claimed a likelyhood of inciting imminent lawless action. Therefore your first link would apply, were that claim to true. And, as an aside, one of the reasons I have such respect for the ACLU is that they do support the bad-guy when he's in the right.
[01:19:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02No new nukes in Cali - 06Combating Scarcity With Abundance: New Impact Challenge to Tackle California's Drought - 1478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:19:28] <exec> 08└─The San Onofre nuke plant was shut down after its operator (SoCal Edison) proved to be untrustworthy. You could call them "incompetent", but that would be letting them off easy--they are simply liars. The only remaining nukes in Cali are at Pacific Gas and Electric's Diablo Canyon facility. That is...
[01:19:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Some easy steps - 06Combating Scarcity With Abundance: New Impact Challenge to Tackle California's Drought - 947 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:19:30] <exec> 08└─move agriculture To where? The Great Plains where they're pumping their aquifer dry? ...and where there is water, they are already growing other crops there. You also don't appreciate the amount of sunlight that Cali gets or the long growing seasons. Easy stuff on water use: 1) Outlaw grass permanen...
[01:19:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Re:Step 1 ... - 06Combating Scarcity With Abundance: New Impact Challenge to Tackle California's Drought - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:19:36] <exec> 08└─It's known as Buzzword Bingo, if you collect the whole set you win a prize. You may have had an opportunity to play if you've ever sat in on a Marketing meeting at work, or HR, they're really good at it.
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[02:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Cutesy Names more important than Real Work - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:24] <exec> 08└─You think that's bad - I work with/for a guy who is all about appearances. "It doesn't look good." is one of his most common statements. When something works, you use it, and to hell with appearances.
[02:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cutesy Names more important than Real Work - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:26] <exec> 08└─When something is made to persuade idiots to give you money, then it doesn't work if it doesn't look good.
[02:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Cutesy Names more important than Real Work - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:27] <exec> 08└─A lot of the names of these flaws have been created my a Microsoft funded organization, although I don't think this one is. "Heartbleed", "ShellShock", and a couple of others (all Linux based) were allegedly their creations.
[02:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Old hat news and already mitigatable. - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:13:29] <exec> 08└─Just don't allow user processes to trigger their own clflushes. Don't execute arbitrary code. Compile apps for P4 arches, or with clflush optimized out. This bug was only a problem because Intel in its infinite malice (incompetence? Depends on who you ask) pushed this into the Pentium 4s way back wh...
[02:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fix: - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:31] <exec> 08└─*less than p4* Dumb html filtering. Plain Old Text mode should pre tag its contents.
[02:13:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03ese002 [5306] (Score:1) 02Re:Old hat news and already mitigatable. - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:32] <exec> 08└─This is a hardware bug. I don't agree that the problem is user code cache flushes. That just makes it exploitable. Even without deliberate cache flushes, crosstalk can cause random memory corruption. If software doing allowed operations can cause hardware to fail, even if it is improbable, then that...
[02:13:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02ECC memory - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 1738 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:35] <exec> 08└─I wonder if this exploit works on ECC memory. I've built my rigs around Opteron processors for years now. And, those rigs are built with ECC memory. I kinda doubt that this exploit is going to get very far when there is a dedicated chip ensuring that data is not corrupted. # inxi -m Memory: Array-1...
[02:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02my rigs - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:37] <exec> 08└─I've built my rigs
[02:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:my rigs - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:39] <exec> 08└─Perhaps you're the asshole for complaining about a word choice.
[02:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I love assholes - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:41] <exec> 08└─Assholes are just the right size to fit my cock in.
[02:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Noscript - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:13:42] <exec> 08└─Learn it, love it, use it.
[02:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Things you forgot to mention, trendy nerd: - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:44] <exec> 08└─1. Adblock 2. Bitcoin 3. Basic income 4. Manna 5. Don't own a TV 6. Vote Libertarian
[02:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fucking javascript - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:13:46] <exec> 08└─we hates it forever
[02:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02JavaScript is Fucking awesome - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:47] <exec> 08└─I write server-side JavaScript all the damn time. Of course I don't include Rowhammer.js in my scripts, why the hell would I do that.
[02:13:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Wishful thinking - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:59] <exec> 08└─Healthcare can get cheaper, if it's based on generic nanobots repairing damage and fighting disease in the body continuously. The intermediate personalized health care based on genomic medicine will be somewhat effective, especially for certain disorders, but prohibitively expensive for most.
[02:14:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I hate singularitarians - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:14:05] <exec> 08└─Don't fight wishful thinking with even more wishful thinking.
[02:18:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02How it works, and who it's for - 06The Plan to Beam the Web to 3 Billion Unconnected Humans - 744 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:18:31] <exec> 08└─Outernet beams a set of files throughout the day (think wikipedia, PDFs, news, weather, etc). Satellite dish/receiver stations cache this data and make it available locally via WiFi for free. Why would anyone want this? When you're too far from the grid (or your grid is down), a solar powered Raspbe...
[02:18:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Land of the [censored], home of the [censored] - 06Hologram Performance Shut Down by Police at Hip-Hop Festival - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:18:58] <exec> 08└─What was the imminent threat to public safety with this holographic popup concert?
[02:19:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02...and as for ''freetards'' - 06Porn Studio Asks Judge to Ban Talk About "Copyleft" Blogs at Trial - 936 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:19:35] <exec> 08└─Copyleft is meaningless with copyright. Copyleft says "I grant you an addition right to freely redistribute this work under these terms I have specified". -You- can only apply Copyleft to a work to which -you- hold copyright. The word has no bearing on this case. . As for "freetards", that is the di...
[02:19:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:...and as for ''freetards'' - 06Porn Studio Asks Judge to Ban Talk About "Copyleft" Blogs at Trial - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:19:36] <exec> 08└─meaningless withOUT copyright. -- gewg_
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[03:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Imagine that! - 06Automattic Says Spooks Asked for Something It Can't Reveal - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:13:25] <exec> 08└─"could take years to resolve" It takes years to resolve a problem caused by government - but if you're behind on taxes, government resolves that quite quickly.
[03:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Imagine that! - 06Automattic Says Spooks Asked for Something It Can't Reveal - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:13:26] <exec> 08└─Quote [shopify.com]: If you think the problems we create are bad, just wait until you see our solutions.
[03:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Imagine that! - 06Automattic Says Spooks Asked for Something It Can't Reveal - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:13:28] <exec> 08└─So why don't you run for President and win and personally abolish the NSA? Here's a catchy slogan for your campaign: "Read my ass, no more shit!"
[03:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Imagine that! - 06Automattic Says Spooks Asked for Something It Can't Reveal - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:13:30] <exec> 08└─careful spouting that anti-government rhetoric... you might come off as a libertarian and the sheeple will accuse you of being 'extremist'
[03:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02FUD - 06Automattic Says Spooks Asked for Something It Can't Reveal - 1121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:13:31] <exec> 08└─If the NSA or whatever 3 letter agency takes your company to court, they gunna have to spill more beans than you did so i doubt they would wanna go that road. also, can you imagine the response from other companies (not to mention the public) to such a case? "authoritarian" would appear in every new...
[03:13:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Precision, sort of. - 06Automattic Says Spooks Asked for Something It Can't Reveal - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:13:33] <exec> 08└─Zero is actually a very precise number. So by saying that they are prevented from being more precise, doesn't that mean, what else could it mean? Now all we need to know if what state intelligence agency was doing this. I suspect Italy, North Korea, and Namibia, but that also is very imprecise.
[03:13:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Things you forgot to mention, trendy nerd: - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:13:54] <exec> 08└─If you have such disdain, why come to this site?
[03:14:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02We're all doomed - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:14:29] <exec> 08└─Seriously, at any point in history there are the pundits that predict fabulous prosperity for a large majority of people on earth. And there (usually more numerous) pundits who predict just the opposite - a bleak, bleak world for the nearly everyone except a privileged few. Like these [henrygeorge.o...
[03:15:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How the mighty has fallen... - 06New York Magazine Goes Dark After Posting Cosby Article - 1045 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:15:36] <exec> 08└─> People can have secrets. People can lead dual lives. Not just can, but must, it is part of what it means to be human. The magnitude of the dichotomy varies by the individual, but as your example shows we are one person to our children, another person to each of our lovers, and yet another to our p...
[03:15:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:DOS attacks - 06New York Magazine Goes Dark After Posting Cosby Article - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:15:41] <exec> 08└─> Just how far do you have to be on the spectrum to misinterpret a joke post The only thing funny about that post is that you thought it would be funny. My guess is that you are just trying to save face by calling it a joke post now that its been pointed out to you how stupid it was.
[03:15:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:DOS attacks - 06New York Magazine Goes Dark After Posting Cosby Article - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:15:44] <exec> 08└─How is a factual statement, about technical acronyms no less, a troll?
[03:17:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:Hopefully a good move - 06Dice Selling Slashdot and Sourceforge - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:17:04] <exec> 08└─Irony would be Bill Gates buying 'em both.
[03:18:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02specifications - 06The Plan to Beam the Web to 3 Billion Unconnected Humans - 1448 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:18:55] <exec> 08└─The device costs $99.99. Here are the specifications: Comes with a serial cable and an A/C power supply4GB of internal storage3 USB ports for adding external storageRequires a Ku- or C-Band Satellite dish, LNB, and coax cable (not included)Dimensions: approx. 7"x 5.5" x 1.5"Power source: Outlet...
[03:19:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Land of the [censored], home of the [censored] - 06Hologram Performance Shut Down by Police at Hip-Hop Festival - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:19:19] <exec> 08└─Oh please.
[03:19:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Land of the [censored], home of the [censored] - 06Hologram Performance Shut Down by Police at Hip-Hop Festival - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:19:24] <exec> 08└─> What was the imminent threat to public safety in Skokie? Waving a logo is clear 1st amendment. Logos do not say "kill now". Oh please. You just got finished disclaiming responsibility for defending the bullshit rationalizing of the mayor and here you are playing the apologist now. You backed the w...
[03:20:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nothing to see here - 06Porn Studio Asks Judge to Ban Talk About "Copyleft" Blogs at Trial - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:20:04] <exec> 08└─The blogs have no bearing on the case.
[03:20:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:Nuclear reactors. - 06Combating Scarcity With Abundance: New Impact Challenge to Tackle California's Drought - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:20:18] <exec> 08└─phil, how is that going to help them when they only have a year of water left before the shit really hits the fan?
[03:20:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Accountability - 06Sydney's World-First "E-Paper" Street Signs - 500 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:20:58] <exec> 08└─> Not in my country. Man I fucking hate narcissists like you who say something like that which only has meaning to yourself. What fucking country are you talking about? In the USA, what you wrote is all sophistry. That's because in the USA only the most extreme traffic/parking tickets are criminal a...
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[04:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:4, Insightful) 02Snowden is a hero - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:13:24] <exec> 08└─Instead of constructively addressing these issues, Mr. Snowden's dangerous decision to steal and disclose classified information had severe consequences for the security of our country and the people who work day in and day out to protect it.
[04:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Snowden is a hero - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:25] <exec> 08└─And we always have. The free and brave thing to do would be to accept that we live in a dangerous world rather than violating human rights and the constitution in order to (supposedly) increase safety. Filthy cowards desire safety above all else.
[04:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedBear [1734] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Future spies - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 487 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:13:28] <exec> 08└─The good thing about the way they are treating Snowden is that they are making sure that all the people who have access to the same kind of information he had access to will much sooner just take it and sell it to a foreign power rather than try to protect the freedom and democracy of their fellow A...
[04:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Future spies - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 717 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:30] <exec> 08└─I don't think the treatment of whistleblowers will increase the amount of spies selling secrets. There will always be a few people that grab at the chance to get side income. But the anti-whistleblowing climate (yes, even against whistleblowers that do not leak) will discourage more people from foll...
[04:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Informative) 02Balance - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 443 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:13:31] <exec> 08└─"The balance between our security and the civil liberties that our ideals and our Constitution require deserves robust debate and those who are willing to engage in it here at home." The government derives all of its power from the constitution. It has *zero* authority to ignore it. The only "balanc...
[04:13:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Snowden doesn't need a pardon - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:13:33] <exec> 08└─Revealing evidence of the government breaking the law is not a crime, it is heroism deserving of the highest praise. Snowden has been true to his oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. The Constitution has many domestic enemies it...
[04:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03albert [276] (Score:1, Offtopic) 02perfect groupthink example - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 940 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:13:35] <exec> 08└─Whenever a Snowdon story comes out, there is only one opinion that is politically correct around here. This is where linear moderation fails us. It's clear that people from the SF Bay Area and even Europe can trivially outvote people from places like Alabama, Virginia, Texas, and Nevada. This kills...
[04:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Refugee from beyond [2699] (Score:2) 02Traitors - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:13:37] <exec> 08└─As the President said in announcing recent intelligence reforms, "We have to make some important decisions about how to protect ourselves and sustain our leadership in the world
[04:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03pogostix [1696] (Score:2) 02Re:FUD - 06Automattic Says Spooks Asked for Something It Can't Reveal - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:43] <exec> 08└─Don't they have a special secret "court" they take you to? One that basically rubber stamps things?
[04:13:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:FUD - 06Automattic Says Spooks Asked for Something It Can't Reveal - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:45] <exec> 08└─Yes. They have a secret court with secret laws where they can basically do as they please.
[04:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Precision, sort of. - 06Automattic Says Spooks Asked for Something It Can't Reveal - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:47] <exec> 08└─It probably means that they're being forced to be imprecise, or to put it as plainly as possible, to lie. If they say that their report of 0 is imprecise then it means that the truth is probably that the number is nonzero. The only state intelligence agencies that would have the clout to make Automa...
[04:13:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Precision, sort of. - 06Automattic Says Spooks Asked for Something It Can't Reveal - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:48] <exec> 08└─Them saying 0 is still being very precise even if it is inaccurate. </pedantic>
[04:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:Precision, sort of. - 06Automattic Says Spooks Asked for Something It Can't Reveal - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:50] <exec> 08└─You misunderstand. They are not saying that they have received precisely zero requests, but that they have received imprecisely, somewhere around zero requests, more or less. What's a half dozen digits between friends, eh?
[04:14:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Re:Cutesy Names more important than Real Work - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:14:03] <exec> 08└─The Internet is finished. Marketing has taken control of everything and no further work will be done. Ever.
[04:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cutesy Names more important than Real Work - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:14:05] <exec> 08└─This is not a cutsey name. This is the engineering name. DDR is organized into rows and columns. The attack litterally hammers on one row of memory to force bit flips in an adjacent row.
[04:14:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03albert [276] (Score:2) 02Re:ECC memory -- yes - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:14:10] <exec> 08└─Getting it to work is certainly harder, but not by a great deal. Even without the more advanced attack methods (directed results) you have only cut down the success probability by a very small factor. ECC is worthwhile I think, but don't imagine you are safe.
[04:14:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02At least I'm safe - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:14:16] <exec> 08└─I tested my ram, its safe. I expected a java-script version of this attack, and here it is. Now how to I find out of my phone is vulnerable to something similar?
[04:14:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Related. - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:14:18] <exec> 08└─This older version used a gooseneck lamp. https://www.cs.princeton.edu [princeton.edu]
[04:14:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Time to upgrade to newer memory controllers - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 490 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:14:20] <exec> 08└─Google has also demonstrated working attacks against Rowhammer. http://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com [blogspot.com] Intel memory controllers produced from 2013 onward include hardware logic to prevent rowhammer from being able to succesfully flip b...
[04:14:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Science Fiction - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:14:28] <exec> 08└─Indeed. Imagine if prices for everything were slashed to a mere 1% of current prices, but you have zero income. You can't afford anything and end up begging for pennies on the street. Those with jobs wouldn't be much better off, since there would be so much competition for each job that the employer...
[04:14:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:I wish - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 544 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:14:35] <exec> 08└─The kind of MBA with even a tiny bit of political sense. Removing the jobs of thousands of people is not how you make friends, especially when those people depend on that job to feed their family. No amount of sugar coating will protect you from half your working class, more or less, coming to remov...
[04:14:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:I wish - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:14:37] <exec> 08└─That would only work if we either abolish capitalism or give everyone a baseline living wage. There also needs to be a change in social perception that it's perfectly okay to be unemployed.
[04:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:I wish - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:14:39] <exec> 08└─My employer uses a third party payroll service, which makes a lot of mistakes. If you can automate that for us, improving reliability and undercutting the current system, you can has money.
[04:14:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Wishful thinking - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:14:44] <exec> 08└─People really have no idea just how bad things have gotten in the last 60 years. It's something you have to visualize because most humans can't intuitively grasp raw numbers at that scale.
[04:14:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Success ? - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:14:56] <exec> 08└─That does seem to be a problem. I'd expect that in such a utopian scenario that the idea of success would diversify a bit, but still, it's a very vague word for something which is a pig in a poke.
[04:17:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03plogerjb [5744] (Score:1) 02Re:Hopefully a good move - 06Dice Selling Slashdot and Sourceforge - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:17:07] <exec> 08└─Just did the same thing to join you. Thanks for the inspiration, been lurking since the beginning.
[04:17:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Absolutely.Geek [5328] (Score:1) 02Re:Hopefully a good move - 06Dice Selling Slashdot and Sourceforge - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:17:22] <exec> 08└─Sometimes you need a +1 Troll mod
[04:17:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmn32480 [443] (Score:2) 02Re:Hopefully a good move - 06Dice Selling Slashdot and Sourceforge - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:17:34] <exec> 08└─We editors will do our very best to continue to screw up. We promise!
[04:18:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03plogerjb [5744] (Score:1) 02Re:Good thing they dumped Chrysler - 06Daimler Seeks License for Road Testing Autonomous Trucks in Germany - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:18:50] <exec> 08└─Unlike the AC that replied, I know that Datsun IS Nissan, and man are they some piles of junk. I'm talking 2006-8 cars with floorboards that are gone.
[04:19:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03nyder [4525] (Score:2) 02Re:specifications - 06The Plan to Beam the Web to 3 Billion Unconnected Humans - 636 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:19:33] <exec> 08└─I wish them all the best. Hopefully these kind of hacks won't be needed for too much longer. I believe Internet access for everybody closely follows clean drinking water in terms of importance to humanity. It's all very well to "teach a man to fish", but the man has to find a teacher first. Give him...
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[05:13:38] <exec> 08└─Instead of constructively addressing these issues, Mr. Snowden's dangerous decision to steal and disclose classified information had severe consequences for the security of our country and the people who work day in and day out to protect it.
[05:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Snowden is a hero - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 1945 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:41] <exec> 08└─Everyone who agrees that "Snowden is a hero" probably just got their names added to several lists-- the list of people who are ineligible for secret clearances, the list of suspected potential terrorists, the "no-fly" list, and, heck if you also think Bradley/Chelsea Manning is a hero, the sex offen...
[05:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Snowden is a hero - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:43] <exec> 08└─“We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.” - CIA director William Casey, February 1981
[05:13:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03albert [276] (Score:2, Troll) 02mighty illogical there - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:45] <exec> 08└─releasing the information to The People was the only correct decision
[05:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Funny) 02Re:mighty illogical there - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:47] <exec> 08└─Future presidents will make more mistakes due to the loss of information.
[05:13:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:mighty illogical there - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 1119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:48] <exec> 08└─The information was always going to become public. Snowden sped up that process. Keep that in mind for the following. The spying that we are doing on other nations' telecommunications is beyond the scale of any previous foreign surveillance. It has hurt our reputation overseas (although some EU head...
[05:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fluffeh [954] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:perfect groupthink example - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 613 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:53] <exec> 08└─While I think that yes, the majority of users here have a very similar opinion on Snowden, I have many times seen well written counter-arguments written and modded up. Keep in mind that when the majority of people share a similar opinion in a place like this, generally the comments that go against t...
[05:13:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:perfect groupthink example - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:54] <exec> 08└─Disagree is a zero mod, i.e. it costs you a point to apply it, but does not actually affect the score of the comment.
[05:13:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:perfect groupthink example - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:57] <exec> 08└─There is a +0 Disagree mod, which you should use when you want to burn a mod point to express you disagree with a post, without resorting to incorrect Flamebait/Troll/Offtopic mod.
[05:13:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:perfect groupthink example - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:58] <exec> 08└─There is also a -0 Disagree mod, which you should use when you want to burn a mod point to express you disagree with a post, without resorting to incorrect Flamebait/Troll/Offtopic mod. [Shamelessly plagiarized from takyon, with only an added adverb and a change of polarity.]
[05:14:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:perfect groupthink example - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:14:01] <exec> 08└─±0 Funny
[05:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03albert [276] (Score:2) 02your Overton window - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:14:03] <exec> 08└─Keep in mind that when the majority of people share a similar opinion in a place like this, generally the comments that go against the grain are actually often trolls or flamebait. I don't have any problem with those getting down-voted.
[05:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:perfect groupthink example - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:14:05] <exec> 08└─It's clear that people from the SF Bay Area and even Europe can trivially outvote people from places like Alabama, Virginia, Texas, and Nevada.
[05:14:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fluffeh [954] (Score:2) 02Re:perfect groupthink example - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:14:07] <exec> 08└─... they could figure out a way to not be out-voted so consistently by the minority of educated elites! Is so easy, even an American Snipper could figure it out!
[05:14:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:perfect groupthink example - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:14:10] <exec> 08└─And what makes you think it is a typo? Some of the most accurate tailors in the US military hale from Texas! (And yes, that one is intentional as well. I have been recently informed that it is our mistakes that makes SoylentNews the wonderful place it is.)
[05:14:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03pogostix [1696] (Score:2) 02Re:perfect groupthink example - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:14:11] <exec> 08└─I browse at -1 always. I'm not seeing any downmodded legit discussion?
[05:14:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03liquibyte [5582] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Time for a revolution? - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:14:13] <exec> 08└─Instead of constructively addressing these issues, Mr. Snowden's dangerous decision to steal and disclose classified information had severe consequences for the security of our country and the people who work day in and day out to protect it.
[05:14:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lagg [105] (Score:2) 02The US is pretty close to done for. - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:14:15] <exec> 08└─We're very quickly approaching that threshold where the damage done cannot be repaired. The fact that they can say things like this without any sense of shame or hypocrisy demonstrates it: not hide behind the cover of an authoritarian regime.
[05:14:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lagg [105] (Score:2) 02Re:The US is pretty close to done for. - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:14:17] <exec> 08└─Woops, looks like I was mistaken about the last paragraph or the page just didn't load fully. Sorry about that.
[05:14:19] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Natales [2163] 02The problem is... - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 991 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:14:20] <exec> 08└─The problem is that the general population doesn't care. I was shocked when John Oliver interviewed [youtube.com] all this random people in the street regarding to Snowden and most of them didn't even know who he was. If anything, some people remembered "he was a spy" or he had "stolen secrets". Som...
[05:14:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Imagine that! - 06Automattic Says Spooks Asked for Something It Can't Reveal - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:14:21] <exec> 08└─Well, not so much an extremist as a complete fraud who would piss and shit themself once faced with the social darwinistic dystopia they clamour for. #cognitivedissonance
[05:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03pogostix [1696] (Score:2) 02Re:FUD - 06Automattic Says Spooks Asked for Something It Can't Reveal - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:14:24] <exec> 08└─Sad. Such a great country. I'd love to move to the US and have free run of places like California. Live/work in Hawaii for a bit. Msg me for a sham greencard marriage you Americans!
[05:14:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:Precision, sort of. - 06Automattic Says Spooks Asked for Something It Can't Reveal - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:14:28] <exec> 08└─Them saying 0 is still being very precise even if it is inaccurate. </pedantic>
[05:14:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Possible Target - 06Automattic Says Spooks Asked for Something It Can't Reveal - 885 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:14:30] <exec> 08└─While it seems clear that some three-letter agency hit up Automattic, the question remains, what were they after? While it would seem automatic to ask for user account info and ip addresses for blogs hosted at wordpress.com, but Automattic is in a position to provide more. Say you host a wordpress b...
[05:14:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03zugedneb [4556] (Score:2) 02a weak but sane person might say... - 06Automattic Says Spooks Asked for Something It Can't Reveal - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:14:31] <exec> 08└─...that the protectors, if they are as strong or stronger than the enemy, are as bad or worse than the enemy. As Robert Jordan put it in one of his books: "...only a greater power can brake a power, and then, you are trapped again..."
[05:14:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:a weak but sane person might say... - 06Automattic Says Spooks Asked for Something It Can't Reveal - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:14:33] <exec> 08└─.only a greater power can brake a power
[05:14:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03zugedneb [4556] (Score:2) 02Re:a weak but sane person might say... - 06Automattic Says Spooks Asked for Something It Can't Reveal - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:14:35] <exec> 08└─break... it is spelled break. I hate this language. I would like to take the english and ram it up in the ass of the french...
[05:14:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02NOT mitigatable (without HW-fix) - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 631 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:14:54] <exec> 08└─This bug defeats the hardware-backed security concepts of the PC, thus also defeating the the operating system security measures depending on the hardware. It also defeats the sandbox-security-model of the javascript interpreter. Your recommendations would even render an MS DOS computer secure, but...
[05:15:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03cfalcon [5731] (Score:1) 02Re:No problem - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 709 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:15:04] <exec> 08└─A lot of content is gated behind javascript, and it's very hard to get around it appropriately, especially on mobile. I despise javascript so much it's actually hilarious, and I constantly wonder why browsers obey shitty commands like "hide this user control", "pop up this thing", etc. I skip out on...
[05:15:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I wish - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:15:17] <exec> 08└─There are places hiring people to print things out from one computer and then type it into a second...
[05:17:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''Perjury can only happen in a courtroom'' - 06 So Far, Wordpress Denied 43% of DMCA Takedown Requests in 2015 - 471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:17:20] <exec> 08└─...or any time someone lies under oath. (Think: deposition.) . This 1-sided law was written as to be completely toothless for anyone without "intellectual property". All a liar has to say is that he made a "good faith" effort to ascertain that the content was his. It would be interesting to see a ca...
[05:18:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Carriers must fix this - 06Silent MMS Exploit Affecting All Android Phones Since 2.2 - 1193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:18:59] <exec> 08└─> And apparently few would buy the high end phones they currently lease so the handset makers > would cry when the next quarterly report came out. People buy expensive iPads instead of cheaper tablets, expensive Macs instead of cheaper Windows PCs and expensive SUVs instead of cheaper minivans. So,...
[05:22:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03plogerjb [5744] (Score:1) 02Re:Conductivity claim is dubious - 06Stretchable Conducting Fiber Provides "Super Hero Capabilities" - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:22:36] <exec> 08└─Surprised this is the only comment I see on here - I had the same feeling when reading the summary.
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[06:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Natales [2163] (Score:1) 02A trigger for the imagination - 06New/Old Thunderbirds Kickstarter Project - 736 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:13:28] <exec> 08└─I was a child during the 70s and I grew up with reruns of the Thunderbirds - translated into Spanish. I know many people can tell the same story, but in my case, I was in Chile during the 16 years of dictatorship under Pinochet. For me, the Thunderbirds represented a world of hope. A world where so...
[06:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Snowden is a hero - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:41] <exec> 08└─Crap. I don't know whether to believe that or not.
[06:14:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score:2) 02The emperor's clothes look nice today - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:14:06] <exec> 08└─I'm not surprised it took two years to craft that response. It's clearly the highest grade of bullshit.
[06:14:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03zeigerpuppy [1298] (Score:2) 02Re:ECC memory -- yes - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:14:55] <exec> 08└─I doubt this attack would work at all against ECC, A single bit flip is detected and more than that causes a RAM error, It's very unlikely to get multiple flips that aren't detected.
[06:15:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:No problem - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:15:08] <exec> 08└─This is only a problem if you automatically execute any code sent to your machine. You don't do that, right? If you do, have I got an EXE file to send to you.
[06:15:28] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] 02Wishful thinking - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 694 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:15:29] <exec> 08└─This is completely sci-fi. The part about automation rendering jobs obsolete is true, the part about basic necessities having negligible cost is fantasy. Energy isn't cheap, and it's getting more expensive. Gasoline is only going to get more expensive, and even if we manage to convert to cheap renew...
[06:20:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:Cat Pictures - 06The Plan to Beam the Web to 3 Billion Unconnected Humans - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:20:03] <exec> 08└─you are ignorant. we already provide them with plenty of aide. the problem is the local governments are corrupt and are taking all the resources. we've even tried dropping food directly to the people but you end up with soldiers coming in and gunning down anyone who touches it. the food is taken and...
[06:20:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02Re:specifications - 06The Plan to Beam the Web to 3 Billion Unconnected Humans - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:20:26] <exec> 08└─What if these people, who have no internet because they are very fucking poor, also have no education so they can't even read? Explain to me how this "Internet" is going to help them?
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[07:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Oligopolies almost always suck. - 06California Exports Gasoline to Mexico Despite 'Shortage' - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:35] <exec> 08└─Break up oligopolies or have rules that encourage new entrants. Being oligopolies made Detroit stupid, made telecoms stupid (think Comcast & friends), made Microsoft stupid, and is making oil companies stupid.
[07:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:3, Insightful) 02cheaper batteries can't come soon enough - 06California Exports Gasoline to Mexico Despite 'Shortage' - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:36] <exec> 08└─i don't know about the rest of you but i'm really just done with oil companies. everything they do is just evil. we really need cheaper batteries and solar panels with larger subsidies. the longer we wait, the worse off the future will be.
[07:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Capitalism in ACTION! - 06California Exports Gasoline to Mexico Despite 'Shortage' - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:38] <exec> 08└─Buy from the lowest bidder, sell to the highest bidder. Rich get richer, poor get poorer. Stuff your fucking face while your neighbors starve and die in a pit of their own shit. That's how CAPITALISM WORKS, motherfuckers! GO, USA, GO!! FUCKING THE WORLD FOR PROFIT!!!!
[07:13:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Snowden is a hero - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:13:59] <exec> 08└─William Casey, died on a canoeing trip where he was wearing a three-piece suite. Totally credible.
[07:14:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02People forget the true lesson of the Alamo: - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 645 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:14:03] <exec> 08└─The Alamo was an example of 'the people' taking action when the government refused to. (Busy bickering over slave or free state as the Free Texas movement was preparing its last stand against Mexico.) The lesson learned (as the Snowden case also shows) is that the actions of the few will often be th...
[07:14:04] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03RedBear [1734] 02Future spies - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 487 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:14:05] <exec> 08└─The good thing about the way they are treating Snowden is that they are making sure that all the people who have access to the same kind of information he had access to will much sooner just take it and sell it to a foreign power rather than try to protect the freedom and democracy of their fellow A...
[07:14:07] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Balance - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 443 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:14:08] <exec> 08└─"The balance between our security and the civil liberties that our ideals and our Constitution require deserves robust debate and those who are willing to engage in it here at home." The government derives all of its power from the constitution. It has *zero* authority to ignore it. The only "balanc...
[07:14:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kell [292] (Score:2) 02Re:Balance - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:14:10] <exec> 08└─+1 Dangerous Truth
[07:14:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:perfect groupthink example - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:14:18] <exec> 08└─But Funny is +1, am I right? Well played, sir/madame!
[07:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:perfect groupthink example - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:14:24] <exec> 08└─If you have "well-thought-out opinions that would be interesting to [me] and would give [me] something to ponder." I'm still waiting. Seriously. Instead of being angry about believing you will be downmodded for posting something good, post it and find out. Scientific method and all that.
[07:14:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:perfect groupthink example - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:14:25] <exec> 08└─It's clear that people from the SF Bay Area and even Europe can trivially outvote people from places like Alabama, Virginia, Texas, and Nevada.
[07:14:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03liquibyte [5582] 02Time for a revolution? - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 242 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:14:27] <exec> 08└─Instead of constructively addressing these issues, Mr. Snowden's dangerous decision to steal and disclose classified information had severe consequences for the security of our country and the people who work day in and day out to protect it.
[07:14:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:The problem is... - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:14:31] <exec> 08└─Only when he equated it to the government was able to "see your junk" people got upset.
[07:14:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The emperor's clothes look nice today - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:14:33] <exec> 08└─Your junk is two years old? Or only the latest online live feed of your junk? You are not being clear. Please increase the gain on the primary transmitter, and watch out for Tom Cruise.
[07:15:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:my rigs - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 440 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:15:20] <exec> 08└─No, Runaway is a trucker. Admitted as much some time ago. And his posts match the stereotype. Of course, being a trucker does not reduce the odds of being an asshole, in fact, it increases it exponentially. Rubber duck is long dead, and Kris only stars in Black Vampire movies now. Silver bullets?...
[07:15:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03chrysosphinx [5262] (Score:1) 02Re:Old hat news and already mitigatable. - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:15:25] <exec> 08└─Don't execute arbitrary code.
[07:15:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:JavaScript is Fucking awesome - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 1612 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:15:32] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately for the rest of us, a lot of business sites insist on JS being enabled. Like you say, you would not do such a thing. Other people may. Neither you nor I can stop them. But we can ignore them. Some of us do. I started using NoScript after I was repeatedly nailed with malware. From w...
[07:15:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I wish - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 611 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:15:57] <exec> 08└─I think you are equivocating MBA's with politicians. MBA's sole purpose is to make money. That's it. They don't care about making friends and no one has ever had the hordes of people they layoff en masse every day come back and cut their head off. You are asking for a world changing event where your...
[07:16:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02Re:don't do what they do - 06What Amateurs Can Learn From Security Pros About Staying Safe Online - 823 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:16:32] <exec> 08└─Really? Not everybody is a craven jobs-worth. Every industry has its bad apples but I believe that humans generally want to do a good job. Besides, "computer security" is not such an established field that it has fallen prey to rent-seeking behaviour. That requires time for the industry to stabilise...
[07:16:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02Re:Internet Kiosk - 06What Amateurs Can Learn From Security Pros About Staying Safe Online - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:16:35] <exec> 08└─The only way to do that with 100% certainty is via epoxy in the port.
[07:18:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score:2) 02Re:I can't ignore - 06NASA Hosts 'Quest for Quakes' Data Challenge - 646 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:18:14] <exec> 08└─Wondering what you were worrying about, I looked it up. It appears there is significant precedent for using "myriad" as a noun. Recent criticism of the use of myriad as a noun, both in the plural form myriads and in the phrase a myriad of, seems to reflect a mistaken belief that the word was origina...
[07:18:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kell [292] (Score:2) 02Re:Hopefully a good move - 06Dice Selling Slashdot and Sourceforge - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:18:35] <exec> 08└─Welcome! :D We can all feel ever so slightly smug when the 5-digit UIDs start popping up.
[07:19:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Re:Hopefully a good move - 06Dice Selling Slashdot and Sourceforge - 854 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:19:02] <exec> 08└─I'm kind of surprised that anyone would need to rely on the presence of mistakes to identify slick ad copy... As a general rule, it usually contains tell-tale phrases or sentiments that won't show up in regular competent, professional, or decently-proofread work, just like there are particular style...
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[08:14:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Oligopolies almost always suck. - 06California Exports Gasoline to Mexico Despite 'Shortage' - 1127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:01] <exec> 08└─This is exactly what the electric companies do as well. Here in Alberta, one of our energy companies just got a token fine for repeatedly doing "routine maintenance" on one of their power plants during peak hours, resulting in them making more money than if that power plant remained online. And the...
[08:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Oligopolies almost always suck. - 06California Exports Gasoline to Mexico Despite 'Shortage' - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:02] <exec> 08└─Oligopolies almost always suck
[08:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:cheaper batteries can't come soon enough - 06California Exports Gasoline to Mexico Despite 'Shortage' - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:05] <exec> 08└─we really need cheaper batteries and solar panels with larger subsidies.
[08:14:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Entitlement in ACTION! - 06California Exports Gasoline to Mexico Despite 'Shortage' - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:07] <exec> 08└─Californians, amongst the highest quality of life people in human history, are complaining that their gas is getting closer to the world average while Mexicans, with the lowest standard of living on a continent, are getting that fuel instead and you call that fucking the world.
[08:14:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Devils Advocate - 06California Exports Gasoline to Mexico Despite 'Shortage' - 956 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:14:09] <exec> 08└─As much as I dislike the oil companies the first thing that came to mind when I read this wasn't "OMG the oil companies are shafting everyone again!!". That was the second thing. The first thing was that I have to wonder if they might have been completing contracts that had been signed months prior,...
[08:14:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:A trigger for the imagination - 06New/Old Thunderbirds Kickstarter Project - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:18] <exec> 08└─Sorry, today they would be declared terrorists and their island base would be wiped off the map shortly after their first launch. Most of them would be killed and/or indefinitely detained in some secret prison, except for Brains, who would be forced to work for the US military.
[08:14:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02I was born in the 80s - 06New/Old Thunderbirds Kickstarter Project - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:14:20] <exec> 08└─But my dad still showed me old episodes of the show when I was young. I feel like I grew up with that kind of a look to the future. There have been several satirical shows come up lately that have ribbed on the puppets, but I kind of hope they keep that old camp. Something about the good old days.
[08:14:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score:2) 02Symbolic - 06New/Old Thunderbirds Kickstarter Project - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:14:22] <exec> 08└─I saw the originals as an adult, and always assumed that the symbolism was that the US aerospace/military complex was a bunch of puppets.
[08:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03albert [276] (Score:2) 02and why did he make mistakes...? - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:38] <exec> 08└─He couldn't spy as well as Obama could. Taking Bush at his word (yeah, I know...) we see that he actually started a war because he was misinformed. Had the spying been better, the 2nd war in Iraq might have been avoided. With the loss of capability, we're headed back to the Bush level of cluelessnes...
[08:15:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02To all the sheepdogs defending Democracy - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 1527 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:15:09] <exec> 08└─It is obvious that OPSECS is drilled into many shallow heads. Yes, to operate as an intelligence agency, secrecy and quarantine are necessary. But the more usual branches of security forces point out that you are not to follow illegal orders. Yes, if you work for an organization that routinely viol...
[08:16:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:1) 02Re:Science Fiction - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 3035 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:16:28] <exec> 08└─Indeed, however it's a fantastical situation. Just because of, say, complete energy abundance, it doesn't mean that we get prices dropping to the extent that it's realistic. Maybe for some items, but not for all, and certainly not the majority. Imagine electricity was free tomorrow. Yes, we'd all tr...
[08:16:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Science Fiction - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:16:29] <exec> 08└─But if you average everyone's salary together, it will be much higher than it is now. And you know, a rising tide floats all boats. Alas, there may be some holes in my analogy.
[08:17:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:1) 02Learning - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 4011 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:17:02] <exec> 08└─The article is wrong. Love of learning has ALWAYS been A key to success at any time in the past, present or future. There is absolutely no point in hiring someone who is either unable, or not keen, to learn unless - quite literally - the job is mindless and drone-like. Even then, they have to learn...
[08:17:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Palliative or effective? - 06What Amateurs Can Learn From Security Pros About Staying Safe Online - 3003 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:17:13] <exec> 08└─I'm no security pro but some of the things I do to secure my systems I won't recommend for computer novices. Because even though I believe they are effective for me, they aren't suitable for novices. For example, I use windows but I don't use realtime antivirus[1] (if necessary I check downloads wit...
[08:18:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:haha - 06New York Magazine Goes Dark After Posting Cosby Article - 517 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:18:01] <exec> 08└─Headline: New York Magazine Goes Dark After Posting Cosby Article Next sentence: The NYT reports that New York Magazine website went off-line hours after posting a story featuring 35 women who have accused the comedian Bill Cosby of sexual abuse Where's the contradiciton? A later sentence says that...
[08:21:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How it works, and who it's for - 06The Plan to Beam the Web to 3 Billion Unconnected Humans - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:21:46] <exec> 08└─Bonus: weakens state censorship/snooping.
[08:22:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Land of the [censored], home of the [censored] - 06Hologram Performance Shut Down by Police at Hip-Hop Festival - 653 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:20] <exec> 08└─Why are you asking me? I'm not the one making that claim. Presumably they will claim that the lyrics of some of his songs encourage impressionable people to fire handguns at other people that they disagree with rather than resolving things amicably, and that there was a high likelyhood of such peopl...
[08:23:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Murdoc [2518] (Score:1) 02"Combating Scarcity With Abundance" - 06Combating Scarcity With Abundance: New Impact Challenge to Tackle California's Drought - 1240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:23:38] <exec> 08└─This has practically been the motto of Technocracy [technocracy.ca] (probably not the kind you're thinking of). It's a proposal for for a sustainable, post-scarcity economic system, designed in the 1920s and usable since at least the 1930s, in North America anyway. When you simply organize what we a...
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[09:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Radio waves - 06U.S. Military Increasing Development of Directed Energy Weapons - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:13:41] <exec> 08└─The use of radio waves as weapon is already well established. It's called propaganda.
[09:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Raghead Terrorists don't Stand a Chance - 06U.S. Military Increasing Development of Directed Energy Weapons - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:13:44] <exec> 08└─We got Troops with Fucking Laser Beams! We gonna have ourselves a Muslim Longpig BBQ! Yee-Haw! USA! #1! forever!!
[09:13:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oligopolies almost always suck. - 06California Exports Gasoline to Mexico Despite 'Shortage' - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:13:54] <exec> 08└─almost always Bell labs spawned much of what we have today. I've heard that long distance calling cost a ton back in the day though.
[09:13:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marco2G [5749] (Score:1) 02Re:cheaper batteries can't come soon enough - 06California Exports Gasoline to Mexico Despite 'Shortage' - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:13:57] <exec> 08└─Yes, well, I'd really love to have a Model S in my garage but it's not like I have 100k Shaboozies lying about. Aynway, if we want to break the oil camel's back, we'll need nuclear power. A lot of it. Good luck getting that one through the people's collective thick skull...
[09:13:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:cheaper batteries can't come soon enough - 06California Exports Gasoline to Mexico Despite 'Shortage' - 806 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:13:59] <exec> 08└─The patents on large capacity NiMH batteries [wikipedia.org] should be expiring soon. IMO, the current practice of using the relatively volatile Li-ion chemistry is just an expensive work-around for these patents. The standard Prius uses NiMH a battery. The plug-in version uses the more expensive L...
[09:14:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Snowden is a hero - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:14:29] <exec> 08└─many of them were not fully aware of the implications of the surveillance programs they approved
[09:14:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:and why did he make mistakes...? - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:14:33] <exec> 08└─Had the spying been better
[09:14:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Snowden doesn't need a pardon - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 364 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:14:41] <exec> 08└─Revealing evidence of the government breaking the law is not a crime, it is heroism deserving of the highest praise. Snowden has been true to his oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. The Constitution has many domestic enemies it...
[09:15:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02eventually - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:15:06] <exec> 08└─he'll be brought out of solitary to help fight off evil ex-navy seals on alcatraz "i'm only borrowing your humvee!"
[09:15:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Dangerous world - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:15:08] <exec> 08└─We live in a dangerous world.
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[09:16:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Old hat news and already mitigatable. - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 1380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:16:02] <exec> 08└─I beg to differ with you about data and code. When I open a text file, I have no intention of executing it. I just want to display the data on the screen as its ASCII equivalent. The furthest stretch of the imagination is to consider a line feed and carriage return as cursor placement instructions a...
[09:16:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Things you forgot to mention, trendy nerd: - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:16:06] <exec> 08└─1. Adblock
[09:16:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No problem - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:16:16] <exec> 08└─Why is webmail essential to your daily work? What's wrong with SMTP/IMAP and a dedicated mail application? I consider webmail a crutch for situations where no proper mail application is available.
[09:17:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03gargoyle [1791] (Score:2) 02Re:Learning - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:17:04] <exec> 08└─Love of learning has ALWAYS been A key to success at any time in the past, present or future. There is absolutely no point in hiring someone who is either unable, or not keen...
[09:17:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:1) 02Re:SN headlines start to ... - 06What Amateurs Can Learn From Security Pros About Staying Safe Online - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:17:24] <exec> 08└─I hate to sound like I'm strawmanning you here, but are you trying to imply that there is no such thing as differing levels of experience in a given specialist field? If you come at me with a clear and reasonable explanation, why would you not have posted that in the first place?
[09:17:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Malware on the machine? - 06Researchers Hack Air-Gapped Computer With Simple Cell Phone - 642 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:17:50] <exec> 08└─Ok, a use case for you: Insider employee walks into airgapped room, installs malware which, for instance, is a key logger and maybe reads off other log files over time and transmits them continually. Then a few weeks later the nefarious cleaning company walks past the airgapped room and puts in a ce...
[09:18:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:How the mighty has fallen... - 06New York Magazine Goes Dark After Posting Cosby Article - 449 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:18:23] <exec> 08└─Nothing like Jimmy Saville. Everyone knew he was a perve for ages, there was even a documentary (probably Louis Thereaux, not sure) highlighting this a decade before his death. He also got the very cold shoulder when he appeared on HIGNFY. (However, the claimed "cut" bits of that show are fake. This...
[09:21:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03bd [2773] (Score:2) 02Re:Good thing they dumped Chrysler - 06Daimler Seeks License for Road Testing Autonomous Trucks in Germany - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:21:17] <exec> 08└─I think Nissan went into a "strategic alliance" with Renault back in 1999 and have been using Renault platforms, motors and technology. IMHO, their quality went steeply downhill then.
[09:23:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Tards' rE_Tards___Tardis? - 06Porn Studio Asks Judge to Ban Talk About "Copyleft" Blogs at Trial - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:23:03] <exec> 08└─There's something wrong if your area is "square". See a doctor. Or become a porn actor.
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[10:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Yeepee, we have ignition! - 06U.S. Military Increasing Development of Directed Energy Weapons - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:14:38] <exec> 08└─... but fusion? Well, not yet [ieee.org] and maybe... Unbelievable! For decades the joke about magnetic confinement fusion--much the more plausible approach to harnessing the energy of the sun--is that the technology is always 20 years away. So when will inertial confinement fusion be delivering com...
[10:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03UncleSlacky [2859] (Score:1) 02What, no sharks? - 06U.S. Military Increasing Development of Directed Energy Weapons - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:14:39] <exec> 08└─Don't tell me I'm the first commenter to wonder about progress with frickin' laser beams?
[10:14:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:cheaper batteries can't come soon enough - 06California Exports Gasoline to Mexico Despite 'Shortage' - 1878 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:14:54] <exec> 08└─The average electricity price in the USA was somewhere in the range 8-17¢/kWh in 2012. Apparently it's higher now, though I don't have numbers for that. Let's pick 10¢ as a rough ballpark to work with. If the cells cost $4.72/W installed, then that's $4,720/kW. At 10¢/kWh, you need 47,200h of gen...
[10:15:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Re:Devils Advocate - 06California Exports Gasoline to Mexico Despite 'Shortage' - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:15:00] <exec> 08└─They have too many very highly paid congressmen.
[10:15:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03takyon [881] 02Re:Snowden is a hero - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 246 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:15:25] <exec> 08└─And we always have. The free and brave thing to do would be to accept that we live in a dangerous world rather than violating human rights and the constitution in order to (supposedly) increase safety. Filthy cowards desire safety above all else.
[10:15:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03mhajicek [51] 02Re:Snowden is a hero - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 156 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:15:27] <exec> 08└─“We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.” - CIA director William Casey, February 1981
[10:15:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:no need to wait - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:15:57] <exec> 08└─I agree. Frequently things are labelled as troll when they are not. Impoliteness of a message with valid reasoning is as good as a polite one, just not as readily persuasive. It certainly does not warrant a -1 anything let alone troll.
[10:16:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02typo - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:16:10] <exec> 08└─"f he felt his actions were consistent with civil disobedience, then he should do what those who have taken issue with their own government do: Challenge it, speak out, engage in a constructive act of protest, and -- importantly -- HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON!"
[10:17:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No problem - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:17:20] <exec> 08└─A lot of content is gated behind javascript
[10:17:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02SN is cool, let's keep it that way! - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:17:24] <exec> 08└─I get full site functionality here with NO javascript enabled, which gives me warm fuzzies. If I go anywhere else, I'm hitting "Temporarily allow..." 4-5 times (NoScript) per page, which reminds me of what a javascript cesspool the web has become. I suspect I'm not alone. Let's keep that in mind as...
[10:17:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02show me teh money - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:17:25] <exec> 08└─maybe this could be made into a "auto-more" exploit for stock trading websites?
[10:19:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Malware on the machine? - 06Researchers Hack Air-Gapped Computer With Simple Cell Phone - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:19:03] <exec> 08└─Of course, all of those attacks could be mitigated by covering the computer in a Faraday cage.
[10:19:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How the mighty has fallen... - 06New York Magazine Goes Dark After Posting Cosby Article - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:19:25] <exec> 08└─No, the child abusers were aliens who borrowed Cosby's body. ;-)
[10:19:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How the mighty has fallen... - 06New York Magazine Goes Dark After Posting Cosby Article - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:19:28] <exec> 08└─The lesson to learn here is that you should kill your idols.
[10:19:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:DOS attacks - 06New York Magazine Goes Dark After Posting Cosby Article - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:19:45] <exec> 08└─Your second paragraph was definitely not a factual statement. Whether your first paragraph was factual, we have no way to decide.
[10:19:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:DOS attacks - 06New York Magazine Goes Dark After Posting Cosby Article - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:19:46] <exec> 08└─You are the only person I have ever seen, in twenty years, complaining about this let alone spelling that acronym with a lowercase "O".
[10:21:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Donald Trump - 06Dice Selling Slashdot and Sourceforge - 560 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:21:44] <exec> 08└─What Trump has is debt. If all his creditors called in all his debts, he'd be in a very deep hole. This is a guy who lost half of the $millions he inherited before he ever made a dime. This is a guy who couldn't make money with a casino. Trump is simply a blowhard with a lot of prejudices and stupid...
[10:22:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:at the risk of being flamed/modded out of exist - 06Silent MMS Exploit Affecting All Android Phones Since 2.2 - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:22:13] <exec> 08└─I'm not a fanboy and don't live in a walled garden, and yet I'm not affected by it. Nor am I affected by this, [soylentnews.org] this, [soylentnews.org] this, [soylentnews.org] this, [soylentnews.org] this, [soylentnews.org] or this. [soylentnews.org]
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[11:14:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Gotta be kiddin' - 06Virgin Galactic Crash Due to Pilot Error and Design Flaws - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:14:29] <exec> 08└─The crash of a Virgin Galactic spaceship last fall in California's Mojave Desert
[11:14:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Aren't they all directed energy weapons? - 06U.S. Military Increasing Development of Directed Energy Weapons - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:14:51] <exec> 08└─U.S. Military Increasing Development of Directed Energy Weapons
[11:15:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:cheaper batteries can't come soon enough - 06California Exports Gasoline to Mexico Despite 'Shortage' - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:15:08] <exec> 08└─The average electricity price in the USA was somewhere in the range 8-17¢/kWh in 2012.
[11:16:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:no need to wait - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:16:13] <exec> 08└─Being an obtuse idiot does merit a troll rating. You will have one until you prove yourself capable of reasoned argument, instead of Faux News talking points. Are you actually even a real human being? Has the military already deployed killer robots right here on the discussion fora of the internet?...
[11:16:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:perfect groupthink example - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:16:15] <exec> 08└─Translated: "Hmm, far more people disagree with me than agree with me, but I can't possibly be wrong so it must be the fault of the moderation system that prevents my viewpoint from being presented. Who cares that these people are, as a group, likely to be far more informed than me on the subject, e...
[11:16:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02To quote Churchill.. - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:16:23] <exec> 08└─Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.… (Churchill (House of Commons, 11 November 1947)—quoting an unknown predecessor. From "Churchill by Himself", page 574)
[11:17:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:a weak but sane person might say... - 06Automattic Says Spooks Asked for Something It Can't Reveal - 603 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:17:01] <exec> 08└─I hear the Japanese refer to their own language as the "devil's language". English is even worse for idioms and irregular forms. And did you ever notice that it is only English speaking nations that have "spelling bees"? Contests over spelling? For most sane languages this would be ridiculous! But...
[11:17:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:No problem - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:17:47] <exec> 08└─Because the webmail I have to use is outlook.com, with calendar etc. I prefer to use Linux instead of Windows, and didn't yet find a good, free outlook-alternative. I could use Windows as well, but I don't like it, and in regards of security I feel it would kind of defeat the purpose...
[11:17:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:SN is cool, let's keep it that way! - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:17:49] <exec> 08└─Indeed, Javascript should be used to *enhance* the user experience, not *provide* it.
[11:18:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Doctorus Philosophicus - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 563 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:18:41] <exec> 08└─It seems that PhD's have one of the lowest unemployment rates. Now this cannot be because of the abundance of jobs for persons so specialized. So it must be that anyone who has the ability to learn, research, and create at the doctorate level, has the ability to apply their skill somewhere. Why? Bec...
[11:21:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score:2) 02Re:Hopefully a good move - 06Dice Selling Slashdot and Sourceforge - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:21:45] <exec> 08└─How can we tell if what you are saying now is truth or trolling? You could be trolling us right now, where in fact you are a goody-goody non-troll poster, but then this runs contrary to your post where you state you are a troll, but that mean you are a troll, but then that means your post is trollis...
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[12:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Key benefits - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:36] <exec> 08└─One of the key benefits of Windows 10 over Windows 8 is that features like Cortana are easily discoverable.
[12:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Key benefits - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:37] <exec> 08└─Don't worry, let me allay your fears brother. This is microsoft! Of COURSE it will be terrible :) This is a company that spies on it's users for a kidnapping torturing warlord spy government (and they do it happily) and attempted to break standards and control one of the greatest human achievements...
[12:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Key benefits - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 516 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:39] <exec> 08└─"Windows 10 now with more creepy search and privacy settings that you'll have to opt-out of. Oh and for shits and giggles we'd thought we'd release Windows 10 with an unfinished browser that we've given a name that the cool kids will love...'Edge' Finally, we've made sure the 'Home' edition users wi...
[12:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Gotta be kiddin' - 06Virgin Galactic Crash Due to Pilot Error and Design Flaws - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:46] <exec> 08└─That's why Americans should use Autumn. :P
[12:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Gotta be kiddin' - 06Virgin Galactic Crash Due to Pilot Error and Design Flaws - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:48] <exec> 08└─"Galactic" is capitalised, though. But yes, my brain did go "shouldn't that be 'last fell?'"
[12:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Gotta be kiddin' - 06Virgin Galactic Crash Due to Pilot Error and Design Flaws - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:50] <exec> 08└─"Galactic" is capitalised, though.
[12:13:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lemming [1053] (Score:2) 02Relevant xkcd - 06Why We Like to Believe That Dinosaurs Were Scaly - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:56] <exec> 08└─Humans [xkcd.com]
[12:14:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Aren't they all directed energy weapons? - 06U.S. Military Increasing Development of Directed Energy Weapons - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:08] <exec> 08└─Don't bullets qualify for that category too?
[12:14:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Redundancy - 06U.S. Military Increasing Development of Directed Energy Weapons - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:09] <exec> 08└─lasers, microwaves, electromagnetic radiation, radio waves,
[12:15:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Future spies - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 816 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:07] <exec> 08└─Ninety-nine percent of what Snowden took and released is unrelated to what he says his motives were. He did a bulk grab and dump, then after the fact tried to claim it was all out of a sense of duty. Bullshit. Why didn't he take only relevant information? If he was worried about freedom and democrac...
[12:15:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] (Score:2) 02Re:Time for a revolution? - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:32] <exec> 08└─"Going through the right channels" is what you do when your CO is stealing staples. It is not what you do to deal with secret (against the suffering of military incarceration) institutionalized abuse of a country by its military, despite the clear constitutional violations present. The proper respon...
[12:17:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:I wish - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 538 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:17:20] <exec> 08└─Its already happened in many companies. Now its all about making the drones generate custom meaningless completely unactionable reports that no one reads, but as long as the empire grows and the number of reports increases for status reasons because meaningless manipulated numbers increase, its all...
[12:17:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:I wish - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:17:22] <exec> 08└─The new jobs that were created in the company are more analytical.
[12:17:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Cheerleading for obsolete systems - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 654 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:17:24] <exec> 08└─Capitalism for all its faults just works ...until it completely falls on its face--which it does about every 80 years. Capitalism is still a thing only because the Fascists in gov't keep using taxpayer money to bail out failed Capitalists. Screw the boom-and-bust cycle and the accompanying bailouts....
[12:17:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''What exactly Changed?'' - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:17:42] <exec> 08└─Sotomayor, Ginsburg, and Kagan. I cringe when I think what SCOTUS would look like with a Republican in the Oval office for those years. -- gewg_
[12:18:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Malware on the machine? - 06Researchers Hack Air-Gapped Computer With Simple Cell Phone - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:18:36] <exec> 08└─True. But how many sensitive systems are CURRENTLY in a faraday cage?
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[13:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Key benefits - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:26] <exec> 08└─The only reason we use their stuff anymore is stockholm syndrome.
[13:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Key benefits - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:27] <exec> 08└─Actually, I use linux REALLY heavily. My website is at https://darrencaldwellwebdesign.ca [darrencaldwellwebdesign.ca] and it's a linux box, I run virtual linux boxes as well for various things. Linux is hyper dominant when it comes to web servers.
[13:13:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02Make sure you read the fine print - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 1504 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:30] <exec> 08└─The TL;DR version: "We'll know everything* about you and we'll be snitching (including your BitLocker key) whenever and/or to anyone we think is in our interest to. Starting Aug 15" A shortened, human-readable, version here [edri.org]. Otherwise, you'll have to read 45 pages of small-print or... swi...
[13:13:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrNemesis [1582] (Score:2) 02Re:Make sure you read the fine print - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:32] <exec> 08└─What I think will be very interesting is if people can find out whether or not it does any of that without a microsoft account - I've certainly got no intention of creating one...
[13:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03pillo [93] (Score:1) 02Re:Make sure you read the fine print - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:35] <exec> 08└─you'll have to read 45 pages of small-print or... switch to Linux.
[13:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Make sure you read the fine print - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:36] <exec> 08└─when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to”, for example, “protect their customers” or “enforce the terms governing the use of the services” or “punching up Microsoft's stock price by giving us the ability to cut deals with businesses”
[13:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score:2) 02Re:Make sure you read the fine print - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:38] <exec> 08└─I assume their lawyers have checked it out - but is that even legal? It is absolutely terrifying. Supreme cosmic power for MS (or near enough, they have the browser history of every politician on the planet).
[13:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrNemesis [1582] (Score:3, Informative) 02ISO downloads surprisingly accessible - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 678 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:40] <exec> 08└─I'm playing it safe myself and haven't prepped any of my W7 machines for an upgrade (and TBH I'd prefer to do a clean install anyway once retail licenses become available) but I was pleasantly surprised to see they were already offerring both a downloady tool thingy and a direct ISO downloader, no r...
[13:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03WizardFusion [498] (Score:2) 02Re:ISO downloads surprisingly accessible - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:41] <exec> 08└─The second link redirects to the first for me.
[13:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrNemesis [1582] (Score:2) 02Re:ISO downloads surprisingly accessible - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:43] <exec> 08└─Bizzaro - you appear to be correct, but it was there earlier I swear! Everyone else getting the redirect? Possible they've issued a redirect due to being swamped on their direct download servers...? Hmm. Bandwidth certainly wasn't an issue this morning (GMT) though, came down at about 7MB/s.
[13:13:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fixe that for you - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:45] <exec> 08└─NSA now lives in a search box right beside the start button, and it can keep track of your travel plans, set up reminders, and perform searches for you.
[13:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fixe that for you - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:46] <exec> 08└─We should just get on with the cranial implants already. At least then we can stop learning 'new' applications over and over again as companies scramble to inject 'metadata' collectors into every fucking piece of software we even consider using.
[13:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02WHAAAAAAAAAT! - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:48] <exec> 08└─Breaking News: Windows 10 Launches Worldwide
[13:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03tempest [3050] (Score:2) 02Perpetual upgrades - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 885 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:50] <exec> 08└─Is anyone up to speed on how Windows Pro upgrades will now work? I've mainly ignored windows 10 thinking I'll look at it when it's out, but looking through documents yesterday it appears 10 Will now be on the auto-upgrade bandwagon. There is also the Branch for Business and Long Term Service branch,...
[13:13:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03miljo [5757] (Score:1) 02Upgrades in Waves - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 527 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:51] <exec> 08└─I checked my Windows 7 box this morning and I apparently wasn't in the first wave of upgrades. I'm curious to know what the criteria are for each wave. TBH I'm sort of excited to play with this. Like my neckbearded brethren, I'm very much a *nix guy, but there's something about the launch of a new O...
[13:13:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Upgrades in Waves - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 737 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:53] <exec> 08└─I too will give it a spin. Like it or not family and friends will ask questions about it. I do like helping them... I have 2 computers where I told it to upgrade. One has 4 gig blob of dlls/exes/mui/cab files the other has 7gig. That was last night around 7pm. It looks like most of it was downloaded...
[13:13:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Better link? - 06Virgin Galactic Crash Due to Pilot Error and Design Flaws - 2803 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:55] <exec> 08└─You linked to the press release. That's OK. The actual report / presentation is at http://www.ntsb.gov [ntsb.gov] and is in the form of multiple PDFs of multiple powerpoints (I shit you not, corporate technology culture is laughable sometimes). The story in...
[13:14:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Aren't they all directed energy weapons? - 06U.S. Military Increasing Development of Directed Energy Weapons - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:16] <exec> 08└─You still direct them to the location where they then explode (in all directions). Usually, but not always, by dropping them out of a plane.
[13:14:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03iwoloschin [3863] (Score:2) 02Re:Aren't they all directed energy weapons? - 06U.S. Military Increasing Development of Directed Energy Weapons - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:17] <exec> 08└─Don't bullets qualify for that category too?
[13:14:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:Aren't they all directed energy weapons? - 06U.S. Military Increasing Development of Directed Energy Weapons - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:19] <exec> 08└─Don't bullets qualify [as directed-energy weapons] too?
[13:14:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Entitlement in ACTION! - 06California Exports Gasoline to Mexico Despite 'Shortage' - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:41] <exec> 08└─Californians, amongst the highest quality of life
[13:14:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02That's not Capitalism - 06California Exports Gasoline to Mexico Despite 'Shortage' - 816 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:42] <exec> 08└─Once again, someone has confused A MARKET with Capitalism. Capitalism refers to a method of production where there is an ownership class and a separate employee class. The opposite of that is an operation where the workers are the owners and all workers are equal and all decisions are made by a demo...
[13:14:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] 02Devils Advocate - 06California Exports Gasoline to Mexico Despite 'Shortage' - 956 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:44] <exec> 08└─As much as I dislike the oil companies the first thing that came to mind when I read this wasn't "OMG the oil companies are shafting everyone again!!". That was the second thing. The first thing was that I have to wonder if they might have been completing contracts that had been signed months prior,...
[13:14:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score:2) 02Re:Devils Advocate - 06California Exports Gasoline to Mexico Despite 'Shortage' - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:45] <exec> 08└─Indeed! Though a majority of congresscritters started out as lawyers. We're both right! :)
[13:15:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:your Overton window - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:15:34] <exec> 08└─Yes, thanks for that, Herr Goebbels. If only propaganda were better run to instill the proper obedience to authority in the minds of the public, eh? The problem must be that people upset by the government's crimes that Snowden exposed simply haven't been taught well enough to doublethink their way t...
[13:15:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:perfect groupthink example - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:15:35] <exec> 08└─I have many times seen well written counter-arguments written and modded up.
[13:15:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:no need to wait - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 542 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:15:45] <exec> 08└─Yes, and it's also straight out of the smear campaign against Snowden that the NSA began when all the news first broke. Remember that cringe-worthy propaganda piece [youtube.com] they put out "interviewing" Keith Alexander about the NSA's criminal programs? It's absolutely one of the agency's talkin...
[13:15:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:perfect groupthink example - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 510 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:15:48] <exec> 08└─When all the down mods are troll, flamebait and offtopic, then yes, you fucking braindead dipshit, it is mod abuse and tyranny of the self-righteous. Let's look at the responses to his post, which are basically, "you and your opinions, and all those who share them, are ignorant. MY opinions are the...
[13:15:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:perfect groupthink example - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 492 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:15:50] <exec> 08└─So, when people who value their freedom downmod and disagree with people expressing proto- or full-on authoritarian positions, they're merely being self-righteous? OK, you know what? I'll own that. I'm not afraid to be self-righteous in the face of fascism. And I'll go on being self-righteous agains...
[13:15:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:perfect groupthink example - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:15:51] <exec> 08└─Your views do not sound compatible with the Party, comrade. They are not welcome here.
[13:15:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:perfect groupthink example - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:15:53] <exec> 08└─Whenever a Snowdon story comes out, there is only one opinion that is politically correct around here. This is where linear moderation fails us. It's clear that people from the SF Bay Area and even Europe can trivially outvote people from places like Alabama, Virginia, Texas, and Nevada.
[13:15:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The US is pretty close to done for. - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:15:57] <exec> 08└─We're very quickly approaching that threshold where the damage done cannot be repaired.
[13:17:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score:2) 02Re:Science Fiction - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 777 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:17:23] <exec> 08└─The only cost there ever is, is the cost to employ a human. If you trace everything back far enough, that's what it comes down to. The cost of your mobile phone is all down to the cost it was to have someone assemble the components, the cost it was to have people build the components from raw materi...
[13:17:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:I wish - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:17:30] <exec> 08└─Some people here might have read the The Two Cultures of Computing [pgbovine.net], a.k.a. "How Ya Gonna Get 'Em Down on UNIX After They've Seen Spotify?"
[13:17:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Wishful thinking - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:17:49] <exec> 08└─the part about basic necessities having negligible cost is fantasy
[13:17:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:I hate singularitarians - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:17:56] <exec> 08└─I wonder if levels of botched international cooperation
[13:18:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score:2) 02Re:We're all doomed - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:18:07] <exec> 08└─Empirically, "fabulous prosperity" has pretty much worked out for at least the last 200 years. It's only the last 20 years or so where things have turned around a bit.
[13:18:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:SN headlines start to ... - 06What Amateurs Can Learn From Security Pros About Staying Safe Online - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:18:29] <exec> 08└─The difference between an amateur and a pro is not how much they know about the subject (people without much knowledge about a subject are called laymen). The difference is whether they get paid for it.
[13:23:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How it works, and who it's for - 06The Plan to Beam the Web to 3 Billion Unconnected Humans - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:23:05] <exec> 08└─Think of it like a shortwave radio broadcaster. Yes, the broadcaster's mother could be censoring his content. But whatever he does broadcast travels the world. Anyone can listen to the broadcast, even if it contains content that their local regime (or mother) does not approve of. One of Outernet's s...
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[14:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02For what it's worth - 06El Nino Growing Stronger - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:23] <exec> 08└─They observed that on El Nino years, the monsoon tends to fail in South Asia, but I don't think it's anything close to certainty.
[14:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:3, Insightful) 02All that energy - 06El Nino Growing Stronger - 584 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:25] <exec> 08└─Not being well-versed in climate science, all I can say is *of course* that energy needs to go somewhere, and nothing is interfering with it doing so. All large-scale weather patterns do is *steer* it. Throw an extra eddy into the air currents over here, and the main current carries the rainclouds n...
[14:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score:2) 02Yay! - 06El Nino Growing Stronger - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:27] <exec> 08└─“El Nino is not the end of the world so you don’t have to hide under the bed. The reality is that in the U.S. an El Nino can be a good thing,” said Mike Halpert, deputy director of the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Climate Prediction Center.
[14:13:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03TK [2760] (Score:2) 02Re:Make sure you read the fine print - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 635 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:45] <exec> 08└─I was wondering what the catch was for it being free. That's a pretty big catch. I was expecting: First you get it for free. Then you have to create an account to use the extra features Then the account becomes mandatory Then your account settings and documents go to "the cloud" Then they become Win...
[14:13:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02It seems to me - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:56] <exec> 08└─It seems to me the best version of that OS yet was Windows 9.
[14:14:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Gotta be kiddin' - 06Virgin Galactic Crash Due to Pilot Error and Design Flaws - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:08] <exec> 08└─Oh, yea? What about TFT?
[14:14:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Gotta be kiddin' - 06Virgin Galactic Crash Due to Pilot Error and Design Flaws - 458 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:09] <exec> 08└─Based on the word choice and capitalization I can honestly only see ONE way to parse that sentence fragment, and it happens to make perfect sense. The crash of a Virgin Galactic spaceship last fall in California's Mojave Desert. The (crash (of (a (Virgin Galactic) spaceship)) (last fall)) (in (Calif...
[14:14:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Relevant xkcd - 06Why We Like to Believe That Dinosaurs Were Scaly - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:18] <exec> 08└─Also The fastest animal alive today is a small carnivorous dinosaur, falco peregrinus. It prays mainly on smaller dinosaurs, which it strikes and kills in midair with its claws [xkcd.com]. Makes sound our world much more awesome than it appears :-) (Other related one: https://xkcd.com [xkcd.co...
[14:14:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03bziman [3577] (Score:2) 02This would be really cool... - 06U.S. Military Increasing Development of Directed Energy Weapons - 554 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:36] <exec> 08└─This would be really cool, if it weren't a boondoggle to transfer wealth from the public to the ruling class. We don't need more and better weapons. We need to to stop invading random sovereign countries and threatening violence on the rest. War as a means of national defense is obsolete in America....
[14:14:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score:2) 02Re:Oligopolies almost always suck. - 06California Exports Gasoline to Mexico Despite 'Shortage' - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:48] <exec> 08└─Well, in this case, wouldn't it be an oiligopoly?
[14:15:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheReaperD [5556] (Score:1) 02Same as the California Energy "Crisis" - 06California Exports Gasoline to Mexico Despite 'Shortage' - 903 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:15:03] <exec> 08└─Electricity trading companies (not producers or utilities; literally just companies that exist to move numbers on a spreadsheet and inflate the price) did the same thing during the manufactured California energy "crisis." When there were rolling blackout and regional brownouts, what did the energy t...
[14:15:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:and why did he make mistakes...? - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 458 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:33] <exec> 08└─Where do they find you guys? Did the government run a recruiting event at Bob Jones University? Or were you vat-grown in secret labs beneath Ft. Mead and decanted to undertake this social media mission? This honestly takes the cake for the greatest amount of drivel I've yet seen on our beloved Soyle...
[14:16:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03pendorbound [2688] (Score:2) 02They got more than zero - 06Automattic Says Spooks Asked for Something It Can't Reveal - 893 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:16:40] <exec> 08└─I can't cite chapter & verse right now, but the regulations for reporting NSL's allow them to report in ranges, not specific numbers. The first range that they're allowed to report is from 0 to 1000. They're not actually allowed to say if it was zero or more than zero. The "By preventing us from sha...
[14:17:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:ECC memory - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:17:06] <exec> 08└─inxi -m Memory: Placeholder: Feature not yet developed I get this. What am I missing?
[14:17:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Science Fiction - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:17:42] <exec> 08└─Prices won't be slashed to 1% If you want to get an idea how a market will change when the goods that were scarce become common or even abundant; look no further than the music/book/video/... industry.
[14:18:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wishful thinking - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:18:03] <exec> 08└─While I understand what your going for, just wanted to point out that Karl Marx was actually quite rich. Not top 1% rich or super wealthy like the GP; but rich none the less. That doesn't invalidate your point about the revolutions his mindwork started as he was long dead before those happened :).
[14:19:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Eunuchswear [525] (Score:1) 02Re:DOS attacks - 06New York Magazine Goes Dark After Posting Cosby Article - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:19:52] <exec> 08└─I guess you are not a German.
[14:19:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Bot [3902] 02Come on - 06New York Magazine Goes Dark After Posting Cosby Article - 199 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:19:58] <exec> 08└─There is no proof that the act of publishing Cosby's stuff has any relation to the DoS, besides, we are discussing Cosby's stuff right here, so this site should also go und§ç %) ..5!)$ [NO CARRIER]
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[15:13:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Re:For what it's worth - 06El Nino Growing Stronger - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:33] <exec> 08└─Right. That's why India is included in the list of El Nino's biggest losers.
[15:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:All that energy - 06El Nino Growing Stronger - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:35] <exec> 08└─It's not a closed system. Energy is constantly added by the sunlight, and constantly radiated away as heat radiation.
[15:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yay! - 06El Nino Growing Stronger - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:39] <exec> 08└─Since when is Australia considered to be third world?
[15:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Cue Weather Channel Hysteria - 06El Nino Growing Stronger - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:40] <exec> 08└─Special Report! Monster El Nino! Millions to suffer! Danger, Will Robinson! We're all gonna die! A golden marketing opportunity if ever there was one.
[15:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Hot but probably hurricane free - 06El Nino Growing Stronger - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:42] <exec> 08└─For we, the residents of the Gulf Coast, it has been hot as hell this summer thanks to the Nino. But the upside is that El Nino's are typically associated with quiet Atlantic hurricane seasons. Source: http://www.aoml.noaa.gov [noaa.gov]
[15:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02California - 06El Nino Growing Stronger - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:43] <exec> 08└─Here in San Diego, we've already had record breaking rainfall amounts for the month of July, with more due today. Although our localized rain will not help the drought in the rest of the state, our lawns are getting green and my rain barrels are full. Drivers are still stupid when it rains, lots of...
[15:13:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:California - 06El Nino Growing Stronger - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:45] <exec> 08└─And the last time we had an El Nino this strong, there was major flooding with road washouts. It was said somewhere that this El Nino may be even stronger than those in the past.
[15:13:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Make sure you read the fine print - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 1470 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:59] <exec> 08└─Its interesting that they seem to be pivoting into this staggering privacy harvesting mode, I wonder how this works with certain use cases. For example everyone knows that strange orphan machine at work that still runs windows 95 because its a shared eeprom programmer. Or the W2K machine that runs a...
[15:14:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Make sure you read the fine print - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:04] <exec> 08└─Popup: It appears that you're still using and earlier version of Microsoft Windows. Upgrading to Windows 10, With the New Cutting Edge, EDGE Browser, will make it easier to access what we think are your favorite internet hangouts like "Ashley Madison", and "Gay Porn.com". It will also make it easier...
[15:14:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:ISO downloads surprisingly accessible - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:08] <exec> 08└─thanks for this. i downloaded the same iso and got the same sha256. so even though the iso download link gives you a unique download code which lasts for 24hrs, the iso file itself isn't modified. that's good.
[15:14:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fixe that for you - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:11] <exec> 08└─Great, I've got a list of things I need the NSA to search for so I can make a cake. I need handcuffs, a gas mask, chloroform, duct tape, a windowless van, oh and zip ties, lots of zip ties (it's going to be a surprise cake).
[15:14:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Perpetual upgrades - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:15] <exec> 08└─Honestly it sounds a lot like mafia "protection" services where Microsoft comes along and says "It would be a shame if someone would come and UPGRADE your computers.."
[15:14:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillAdams [1424] (Score:1) 02Re:Perpetual upgrades - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:16] <exec> 08└─http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/lifecycle [microsoft.com] Article on it: http://www.zdnet.com! [zdnet.com]
[15:14:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Upgrades in Waves - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:19] <exec> 08└─My 8.1 Pro laptop got it this morning (slick install screen, I must say) but my 7 Ultimate is still waiting as well as my 8.1 Surface.
[15:14:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It seems to me - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:21] <exec> 08└─Please give Phoenix666 his account back, Cirno.
[15:14:22] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Urlax [3027] 02after running it for 5 minutes: - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 932 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:22] <exec> 08└─i did a backup of my W7, did a clean install of it and then upgraded to 10: after installing, you get a welcome screen. it asks for you to accept the recommended settings. down left in a tiny font, you can customize the settings. what i disabled: everything. do not send history, backups, passwords t...
[15:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimios [201] (Score:2) 02A heads up for gamers - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:24] <exec> 08└─Windows 10 has a tendency to try to upgrade your GPU driver (and fail if you're using the GPU) and leaving it in a crashed state. Which means: no notifications about any problems, your games just fail in creative ways. Fixed with a reboot.
[15:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02High Bar - 06Virgin Galactic Crash Due to Pilot Error and Design Flaws - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:38] <exec> 08└─It seems to me that the crash was purely pilot error. Considering lack of handling of pilot error as a design flaw is a hole you can't really dig yourself into unless you want to eliminate pilots completely. Having safety interlocks and idiot lights and that sort of thing is a nicety, but should gen...
[15:14:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I, for one - 06Why We Like to Believe That Dinosaurs Were Scaly - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:47] <exec> 08└─Welcome our new prehistoric Dinornith overlords.
[15:14:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Personally? - 06Why We Like to Believe That Dinosaurs Were Scaly - 742 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:49] <exec> 08└─I don't picture dinos with scales. I don't guess I can trace how, why, and when I decided that dinos didn't have scales, but I just don't see them in my mind with scales. Feathers, possibly, scales, no. And, of course, not all dinos were feathered - but I couldn't begin to guess which were, and whic...
[15:15:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score:2) 02Re:Aren't they all directed energy weapons? - 06U.S. Military Increasing Development of Directed Energy Weapons - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:03] <exec> 08└─Also, there's probably some UN law or something that requires them to make "pew pew pew" noises to alert innocent civilians about nearby fighting.
[15:16:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Snowden is a hero - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:16:01] <exec> 08└─How in hell did he get a "suite" into a canoe? Either English is not your first language, OR, you don't know how to spell, OR, Casey was one hell of a man to get that canoe out into deep water while carrying an entire suite.
[15:16:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:and why did he make mistakes...? - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:16:08] <exec> 08└─Had the spying been better, they would have used it to violate more people's rights, and there still would've been an Iraq war, because Bush and his buddies are all sociopathic, lying war criminals.
[15:16:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:mighty illogical there - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:16:10] <exec> 08└─How does all that matter? When you spy a criminal committing criminal activities, you should keep some or most of his activities secret? Huh, WUT?!?!?!
[15:16:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:mighty illogical there - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:16:12] <exec> 08└─Nothing illogical there. Mass surveillance is always unethical, because it will always capture the data of countless innocent people who are not suspected of anything. Foreigners have rights too; I know that may come as a surprise for you. If we have to spy on a foreigner, there should be evidence t...
[15:16:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:2) 02Re:Snowden is a hero - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 872 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:16:14] <exec> 08└─> But he would not have a fairy trial in the first place; the government would make certain of that Fairy trial in the sense that a fair trial would be a fantasy, yes. But no, he can't get a fair trial, they wouldn't even need to "make certain" of that as that implies they'd need to do something spe...
[15:16:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Snowden doesn't need a pardon - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:16:23] <exec> 08└─The big reveal was that what was suspected to happen suddenly became confirmed to be happening. That's not inconsiderable.
[15:16:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Snowden doesn't need a pardon - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 369 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:16:24] <exec> 08└─Spot Fucking On. Thank you for pointing out what the oath really is. No one swears an oath to protect and defend the administration, or to protect and defend Washington, or to protect and defend the NSA. It's the CONSTITUTION that we all swore to defend. http://oathkeepers.org [oathkeepers.org] Sal...
[15:16:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:perfect groupthink example - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:16:50] <exec> 08└─Whatever. Personally, I refrain from moderating in a discussion like this, which I am very passionate about. It would be easy for me to down-mod every comment that I didn't agree with, so I just keep my moderator in it's holster for these conversations. I may THINK that some of the posters are dumba...
[15:16:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:perfect groupthink example - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:16:51] <exec> 08└─You are being denied the chance to see well-thought-out opinions that would be interesting to you and would give you something to ponder.
[15:17:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:a weak but sane person might say... - 06Automattic Says Spooks Asked for Something It Can't Reveal - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:17:19] <exec> 08└─I think it's reasonable to blame the Brits. They were the first imperialistic English speaking empire.
[15:17:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:ECC memory - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 526 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:17:46] <exec> 08└─Maybe you're using an outdated version? # inxi --version inxi 2.2.26-00 (2015-07-06) If your inxi is up to date, then you are possibly missing some dependency. Then again, it may be a glitch in your OS - I know that inxi couldn't get uptime for awhile after systemd was instituted. Now it works again...
[15:18:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:I wish - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:18:38] <exec> 08└─Now there is a side effect that only employing 2 people in a village of 15 people means 13 unemployed people.
[15:18:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:I wish - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:18:40] <exec> 08└─there's no indication that we're building up a pile of unemployable people.
[15:18:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Cheerleading for obsolete systems - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:18:42] <exec> 08└─...until it completely falls on its face--which it does about every 80 years.
[15:19:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03TK [2760] (Score:2) 02Re:Internet Kiosk - 06What Amateurs Can Learn From Security Pros About Staying Safe Online - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:19:27] <exec> 08└─Good idea. Not only will it fry any enterprising hacker's usb stick, it will permanently disable the target computer, preventing any meddling in the future.
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[16:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2, Redundant) 02Lame vendors - 06Unhinged Linux Backdoor Still Poses a Nuisance, if not a Threat - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:26] <exec> 08└─So very few vendors support Linux. You would think that the criminal portion of the developer's world might make that extra effort, but, nooooo. Just lame, half-fast support for us.
[16:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Re:California - 06El Nino Growing Stronger - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:52] <exec> 08└─Drivers are stupid when it rains everywhere. I've lived in Florida - where it rains virtually every day in the summer - for a dozen years, and - although it hardly seems possible when you see how they drive in the sunshine - drivers do get stupider as soon as the rain starts falling here, too.
[16:13:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:California - 06El Nino Growing Stronger - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:54] <exec> 08└─The L.A. area has seen its all-time July rain records shattered when they got almost twice the old record in one 2-day storm. But the new record is still less than one inch, and the hills are still grey-brown.
[16:13:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03purpleland [5193] (Score:1) 02Dealing with change - 06El Nino Growing Stronger - 852 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:55] <exec> 08└─While humans seem great at adapting to change in the macro long term scale we seem pretty awful at individual events. Look at how we make fun of bad drivers in rain or a little snow. Or how an entire city like Atlanta grinds to a halt with 3 inches of snow in 2014. There's an interesting theory that...
[16:14:04] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02Re:Key benefits - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 65 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:05] <exec> 08└─The only reason we use their stuff anymore is stockholm syndrome.
[16:14:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Key benefits - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:07] <exec> 08└─Is that site running in a VM because it is frickin slow... Also... dude, my eyes... the fuck did you do to my eyes?
[16:14:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Make sure you read the fine print - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:12] <exec> 08└─THIEF, you should buy a server license for that
[16:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02Re:Make sure you read the fine print - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 1391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:13] <exec> 08└─My prediction all along was that Win8 was the start of a split between "consumer" and "enterprise" windows. With the huge rejection of the Win8 UI, MS had to back off. But I think their plan is to have a free consumer Windows which is online only. You have to sign up for their "cloud" stuff to use i...
[16:14:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02Re:Make sure you read the fine print - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 650 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:15] <exec> 08└─It's hard not to create an online account. I installed Win8 from a DVD and had to jump through hoops to set up a local account. Not easy or intuitive, and I knew what I was doing. With Win8, MS has gone all-out to try to get people to sign up for their cloud services, and Win10 seems to be more of t...
[16:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:after running it for 5 minutes: - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:38] <exec> 08└─"Look at Apple! they are shiny and they do all that stuff, so we can too"
[16:14:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Thanks, but no thanks. - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:40] <exec> 08└─After reading this and some other stories, I think I'll cancel the "free upgrade" on my Win7 boxen and wait to see how this all shakes out. Privacy concerns, eventual online-only functionality, half-baked browser, and Clippy re-named Cortana worry me. And frankly, I'm just too lazy to recreate all m...
[16:15:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Feathers - 06Why We Like to Believe That Dinosaurs Were Scaly - 500 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:06] <exec> 08└─I personally picture the larger ones without scales or being covered with feathers. Because the larger stuff like elephants and hippos don't have much fur either. Imagine if you're huge and started moving about a fair bit, even if you weren't warm blooded the waste heat from your muscles would start...
[16:15:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Aren't they all directed energy weapons? - 06U.S. Military Increasing Development of Directed Energy Weapons - 426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:21] <exec> 08└─By that broad definition so too is a crossbow bolt or sling bullet a "directed energy weapon." That the energy being directed comes from muscles is irrelevant, eh? What is the definition of a failure for a wonk, when he becomes ridiculously reductive or when he blurs meaningful categories? A laser i...
[16:15:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03DutchUncle [5370] (Score:1) 02Buy low, sell high. Isn't that just "business"? - 06California Exports Gasoline to Mexico Despite 'Shortage' - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:53] <exec> 08└─Uber has surge pricing. Is that market forces at work, or price gouging? This is a business, friends, and there's no reason that someone with a product to sell has to sell it at a cheaper price rather than a higher price (even if some of that higher price is eaten up by shipping costs). If you want...
[16:15:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03BananaPhone [2488] (Score:2) 02This is ENRON 2: No gasoline for you! - 06California Exports Gasoline to Mexico Despite 'Shortage' - 441 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:54] <exec> 08└─ENRON did this with electricity: California had an installed generating capacity of 45GW. At the time of the blackouts, demand was 28GW. A demand supply gap was created by energy companies, mainly Enron, to create an artificial shortage. Energy traders took power plants offline for maintenance in da...
[16:16:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:mighty illogical there - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 73 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:26] <exec> 08└─Future presidents will make more mistakes due to the loss of information.
[16:16:28] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:and why did he make mistakes...? - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 26 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:28] <exec> 08└─Had the spying been better
[16:16:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:perfect groupthink example - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 1193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:56] <exec> 08└─Ah Lordy-Lordy and Hallelujah! For you walk on the RIGHT and TRUE path!! Let us eliminate the INFIDELS who think otherwise!!! I'm with you brother! For ours is the ONE and ONLY way! For WE know what is right. Let's meet at the Creationism Museum. When we're done, maybe we can go "take care" of some...
[16:17:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:FUD - 06Automattic Says Spooks Asked for Something It Can't Reveal - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:17:31] <exec> 08└─Maybe they wouldn't take you to court... instead they just "disappear" key personnel working for you, or throw them in a cell at gitmo in the name of "fighting terrorism"
[16:17:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Possible Target - 06Automattic Says Spooks Asked for Something It Can't Reveal - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:17:38] <exec> 08└─Well, WordPress *is* open source so I'm sure *somebody* checked the code... I mean, I thought you were doing that...
[16:17:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:a weak but sane person might say... - 06Automattic Says Spooks Asked for Something It Can't Reveal - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:17:45] <exec> 08└─I could see it going either way. "Brake a power" as in apply the brakes to it vs. "break a power" as in cripple its effectiveness.
[16:17:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Why don't they defy the NSL and kill anyone that c - 06Automattic Says Spooks Asked for Something It Can't Reveal - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:17:47] <exec> 08└─Why don't they defy the NSL and kill anyone that comes to arrest them?
[16:18:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cutesy Names more important than Real Work - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:18:00] <exec> 08└─Please elaborate on your accusation instead of just accusing
[16:18:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:my rigs - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:18:11] <exec> 08└─1st Gear vrrmmm 2nd gear Vrrrm Kill some hooker 3rd gear vrrmm 4th gear vrrmmm hit a pedestrian 5th gear vrrm 6th gear vrrm Kill another hooker TOP GEAR!!
[16:18:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Old hat news and already mitigatable. - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:18:19] <exec> 08└─But data is code and code is data; all it needs is a chmod +x
[16:18:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No problem - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:18:33] <exec> 08└─THIEF... How dare you withhold your eyeballs from our adver^H^H^H^Hcontent...
[16:18:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No problem - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:18:37] <exec> 08└─Really, you failed to find Thunderbird? You also failed to find the Lightning and Exchange EWS add ons for Thunderbird? My goodness you must suck at your job
[16:19:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I wish - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:19:13] <exec> 08└─If something like a military swept in, "red dawn" style and said "we're gonna take all you own, and all your jobs, and you're all gonna go back to being poor uneducated feudal peasants" then there would be a mass uprising.
[16:19:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cheerleading for obsolete systems - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:19:17] <exec> 08└─Capitalism is still a thing only because the Fascists in gov't keep using taxpayer money to bail out failed Capitalists.
[16:19:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:I wish - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:19:19] <exec> 08└─There also needs to be a change in social perception that it's perfectly okay to be unemployed.
[16:19:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wishful thinking - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:19:26] <exec> 08└─You mean to say there are things outside of the US? I was told there were dragons there...
[16:19:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wishful thinking - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:19:28] <exec> 08└─Please provide citations not backed by a think tank.
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[17:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Refugee from beyond [2699] (Score:2) 02systemd - 06Unhinged Linux Backdoor Still Poses a Nuisance, if not a Threat - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:27] <exec> 08└─If successfully planted, the malware tries to register itself in the system as a daemon (system service).
[17:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:systemd - 06Unhinged Linux Backdoor Still Poses a Nuisance, if not a Threat - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:29] <exec> 08└─You win the internets today.
[17:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Be careful - 06CRISPR Used to Edit Human T Cells - 431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:36] <exec> 08└─From TFA: Although rare (∼1–2%), edits were detected with Cas9-only control treatment, including at the predicted CXCR4 cut site, potentially indicating trace amounts of experimental contamination of the Cas9 RNPs. [...] Twenty-four hours after electroporation cells were resuspended and transfer...
[17:14:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Key benefits - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:11] <exec> 08└─Depends on how you sort them. Lexicographically, 10 8. ;-) (Actually, at least some version of the game Konquest sorts numbers lexicographically in the fleet overview.)
[17:14:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Key benefits - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:12] <exec> 08└─Err ... that should have been 10 < 8.
[17:14:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrNemesis [1582] (Score:2) 02Re:ISO downloads surprisingly accessible - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 786 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:27] <exec> 08└─Found the reason I think - they appear to be using browser/OS detection to do the redirect; when I spoof the user agent to be non-windows or just use a linux machine it offers me the direct ISO download without fuss, when I use a non-spoofed UA and it shows I'm on windows it seems to want to get me...
[17:14:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:WHAAAAAAAAAT! - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 100 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:33] <exec> 08└─It is "breaking" news because of all the computers that aren't going to work right after the update.
[17:14:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:3, Informative) 02Never forget, it was 1999 - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:47] <exec> 08└─http://edition.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9909/03/windows.nsa.02/ [cnn.com]
[17:14:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Never forget, it was 1999 - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:49] <exec> 08└─1999: It is illegal for the agency to eavesdrop on American citizens, meaning that if the NSA key exists, international businesses are most at risk, Fernandes said.
[17:15:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Gotta be kiddin' - 06Virgin Galactic Crash Due to Pilot Error and Design Flaws - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:02] <exec> 08└─And with the prepositional phrase, "the crash" would still be the subject, too. "The crash last fell"? No.
[17:15:03] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02Better link? - 06Virgin Galactic Crash Due to Pilot Error and Design Flaws - 2803 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:15:04] <exec> 08└─You linked to the press release. That's OK. The actual report / presentation is at http://www.ntsb.gov [ntsb.gov] and is in the form of multiple PDFs of multiple powerpoints (I shit you not, corporate technology culture is laughable sometimes). The story in...
[17:15:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Better link? - 06Virgin Galactic Crash Due to Pilot Error and Design Flaws - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:06] <exec> 08└─> Or in summary, test pilot work, which is exactly what they were doing anyway. One could argue that the loss of only one of the two pilots is a success of sorts. Something really bad happened, but not all life was lost, therefore the overall design is not fundamentally flawed.
[17:15:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Better link? - 06Virgin Galactic Crash Due to Pilot Error and Design Flaws - 1826 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:08] <exec> 08└─Eh pretty much. I'd say a design failure scenario would be modeling and ground testing made them claim the wings fall off if you deploy flaps above 100 knots, and you deploy at 80 knots and the wings fall off anyway. Or we thought it would be stable but it goes into uncontrollable flat spin at high...
[17:15:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Personally? - 06Why We Like to Believe That Dinosaurs Were Scaly - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:19] <exec> 08└─How do you know that for sure?
[17:15:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ken_g6 [3706] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Skin impressions - 06Why We Like to Believe That Dinosaurs Were Scaly - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:15:21] <exec> 08└─But there are skin impressions from dinosaurs. And, in most cases, they're scaly. [dinosaurstore.com]
[17:15:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Skin impressions - 06Why We Like to Believe That Dinosaurs Were Scaly - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:23] <exec> 08└─I'm sorry, simultaneously having scaly, feathery, exo-skeleton, and skinned creatures on earth is just patently absurd.
[17:15:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Skin impressions - 06Why We Like to Believe That Dinosaurs Were Scaly - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:25] <exec> 08└─I'm sorry, simultaneously having scaly, feathery, exo-skeleton, and skinned creatures on earth is just patently absurd.
[17:15:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Aren't they all directed energy weapons? - 06U.S. Military Increasing Development of Directed Energy Weapons - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:41] <exec> 08└─A certain Albert E. would beg to differ.
[17:15:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Brass Tacks - 06U.S. Military Increasing Development of Directed Energy Weapons - 1327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:15:45] <exec> 08└─What is the real advantage of Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation (lasers) and Microwave Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation (masers) over traditional bullets? Is it the cost advantage per shot? Is it operational advantages like not having to correct for gravity or...
[17:15:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Brass Tacks - 06U.S. Military Increasing Development of Directed Energy Weapons - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:47] <exec> 08└─Cost potential per shot, possible ability to intercept drones and missiles, nonlethal mode (MASER = "pain ray"). While the laser faces atmospheric challenges, the railgun mentioned in the article could shoot a projectile hundreds of miles or into space. We already started this discussion: https://so...
[17:17:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:perfect groupthink example - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 453 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:32] <exec> 08└─Well, Runaway, part of me can applaud that. The greater part of me says, there is no excuse for writing apologia for an agency which is the equivalent of the Stasi. Should we all excuse what the Stasi did and what it stood for because many of its top officers were decent family men? Fuck no. When an...
[17:18:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:a weak but sane person might say... - 06Automattic Says Spooks Asked for Something It Can't Reveal - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:18:04] <exec> 08└─And did you ever notice that it is only English speaking nations that have "spelling bees"?
[17:18:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:ECC memory - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:18:37] <exec> 08└─thanks! I grabbed the latest version from svn, though the debian version is a bit old. Works fine for me now. Very cool tool.
[17:19:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:No problem - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:00] <exec> 08└─Really, you failed to find Thunderbird? You also failed to find the Lightning and Exchange EWS add ons for Thunderbird?
[17:19:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No problem - 06The Rowhammer is Here... Next Heartbleed? - 1129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:01] <exec> 08└─The problem with javascript is the laziness of developers in designing sites that require it to provide basic services to the site visitor. I browse SN all the time with JavaScript disabled, and the site functions. Heck, even Amazon is somewhat functional with JavaScript disabled. For most web devel...
[17:19:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] 02Re:Wishful thinking - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 1849 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:45] <exec> 08└─The "inputs" (energy, raw material, and in some sense land) aren't really an issue. Land is the only one that really is intractable until Standard Western Culture kicks in everywhere and women start having babies at below replacement rates. Once populations stabilize and then start to decline, as th...
[17:20:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Amateurs can learn from experienced people - 06What Amateurs Can Learn From Security Pros About Staying Safe Online - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:20:26] <exec> 08└─... news at eleven.
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[18:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Insightful) 02what is this thing? - 06Intel and Micron Announce 3D XPoint, A New Type of Memory and Storage - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:29] <exec> 08└─Wat? Intel has denied that XPoint is a ... memristor
[18:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:what is this thing? - 06Intel and Micron Announce 3D XPoint, A New Type of Memory and Storage - 453 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:30] <exec> 08└─Having the resistance of something represent 1/0 doesn't necessarily mean it's a memristor. The definition of a memristor is a bit narrower than that despite the patent trolls trying to get it to cover more. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] And even if it is a memristor I thin...
[18:14:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Yay! - 06El Nino Growing Stronger - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:03] <exec> 08└─Since when is Australia considered to be third world? To everyone other than Australians? Always.
[18:14:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Dealing with change - 06El Nino Growing Stronger - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:13] <exec> 08└─While humans seem great at adapting to change in the macro long term scale we seem pretty awful at individual events .... Or how an entire city like Atlanta grinds to a halt with 3 inches of snow in 2014.
[18:14:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score:2) 02Re:Make sure you read the fine print - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:34] <exec> 08└─It will only run metro-style apps, not legacy Win32/64 programs.
[18:14:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:WHAAAAAAAAAT! - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:51] <exec> 08└─WHAT! OH my god! Was the president notified? Someone call scotland yard! (shaking and sobbing) Jesus save us, Windows 10 is upon us! God help us all. I have to get the family into the bunker.... I don't know about anyone else but when I heard this news I immediately left work for home. Turned of...
[18:15:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Oh, man..... - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:15:06] <exec> 08└─and i just installed linux mint to try it out (along with my Athergos install). What shall i do? I have all my partitions full? Woe is me...
[18:15:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Skin impressions - 06Why We Like to Believe That Dinosaurs Were Scaly - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:15:42] <exec> 08└─The Disney Corporation, MPAA and RIAA are so far behind the times that they want to reinstate that proven "patent/copyright until all your descendants are dead" philosophy.
[18:16:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Brass Tacks - 06U.S. Military Increasing Development of Directed Energy Weapons - 468 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:06] <exec> 08└─What is the real advantage of Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation (lasers) and Microwave Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation (masers) over traditional bullets? Is it the cost advantage per shot? Is it operational advantages like not having to correct for gravity or...
[18:20:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cheerleading for obsolete systems - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:20:02] <exec> 08└─The process you describe is by definition not capitalist.
[18:20:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:I hate singularitarians - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:20:23] <exec> 08└─Only slaves and indentured servants move to get a job. Pretty sure slaves and indentured servants are the only ones who can't move to get a new job.
[18:20:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I hate singularitarians - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 760 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:20:26] <exec> 08└─I'm confused about the requirement on "white ones". Are you saying that an African tribal warlord authorizing marriage to young girls within his tribe is worse than a white supremacist creating a whites-only commune where marriage to young girls is authorized? Perhaps you're saying that a non-white...
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[19:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:what is this thing? - 06Intel and Micron Announce 3D XPoint, A New Type of Memory and Storage - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:30] <exec> 08└─I can assure you, had the capacitor been invented these days, there would be a patent covering all of them. Probably broad enough to also cover rechargeable batteries, if those had not been invented before either.
[19:13:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:2) 02Re:what is this thing? - 06Intel and Micron Announce 3D XPoint, A New Type of Memory and Storage - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:32] <exec> 08└─Which is why the funding for the USPTO needs to be increased and provided by the federal government. With application fees being nominal and a large tax on sales of patents.
[19:13:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:what is this thing? - 06Intel and Micron Announce 3D XPoint, A New Type of Memory and Storage - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:34] <exec> 08└─Yep, sure looks like dancing around patents to me also. Plus the whole design looks like crossbar switching scheme to me (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossbar_switch). Maybe trying to avoid the ancient Bell Labs patents. And---"...a 128 Gb (16 GB) size." ? Which is it? From the FA it seems they wo...
[19:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Re:what is this thing? - 06Intel and Micron Announce 3D XPoint, A New Type of Memory and Storage - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:36] <exec> 08└─128 Gb (gigabits) = 16 GB (gigabytes)
[19:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:what is this thing? - 06Intel and Micron Announce 3D XPoint, A New Type of Memory and Storage - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:37] <exec> 08└─and this is their way of avoiding it. I suspect this is tied to the Chinese company 'we want to buy micron'. Micron is coming back with 'uh double that'.
[19:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 0216 gig? - 06Intel and Micron Announce 3D XPoint, A New Type of Memory and Storage - 679 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:39] <exec> 08└─my_entire_operating_system lives on a 30 gig ext4 partition. Only 5.91 gig of that partition is used. 16 gig of memory is a hell of a lot of memory, if you're not running a server. You can create a two gig ram drive for temp and cache, load your most memory intensive game, and I'm pretty certain you...
[19:13:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Refugee from beyond [2699] 02systemd - 06Unhinged Linux Backdoor Still Poses a Nuisance, if not a Threat - 105 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:45] <exec> 08└─If successfully planted, the malware tries to register itself in the system as a daemon (system service).
[19:14:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Yay! - 06El Nino Growing Stronger - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:09] <exec> 08└─Since 1986, when Crocodile Dundee came out.
[19:14:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03pogostix [1696] (Score:2) 02Re:Make sure you read the fine print - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:48] <exec> 08└─Thx for this. I used Linux in the 90's and 00s but have gone back to windows recently because life is busy and windows is decent with noscript and adblock. I have 2 machines eligible for Windows 10 and I am switching my desktop to Linux thanks to this.
[19:14:49] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03MrNemesis [1582] 02ISO downloads surprisingly accessible - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 678 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:49] <exec> 08└─I'm playing it safe myself and haven't prepped any of my W7 machines for an upgrade (and TBH I'd prefer to do a clean install anyway once retail licenses become available) but I was pleasantly surprised to see they were already offerring both a downloady tool thingy and a direct ISO downloader, no r...
[19:15:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedBear [1734] (Score:2) 02Re:High Bar - 06Virgin Galactic Crash Due to Pilot Error and Design Flaws - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:32] <exec> 08└─It seems to me that the crash was purely pilot error. Considering lack of handling of pilot error as a design flaw is a hole you can't really dig yourself into unless you want to eliminate pilots completely. Having safety interlocks and idiot lights and that sort of thing is a nicety, but should gen...
[19:16:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Aren't they all directed energy weapons? - 06U.S. Military Increasing Development of Directed Energy Weapons - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:16:07] <exec> 08└─but I think the defining factor of "Directed Energy Weapons" for the purposes of this conversation are weapons that have a continuous stream of fire from the weapon muzzle to the target, and travel at the speed of light.
[19:16:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03morgauxo [2082] (Score:2) 02Re:cheaper batteries can't come soon enough - 06California Exports Gasoline to Mexico Despite 'Shortage' - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:16:32] <exec> 08└─>>we really need cheaper batteries and solar panels with larger subsidies. >>Just from curiosity: why do you need larger subsidies? A quick search brought some data 1.5 years old (Feb 2014), which says: Well, it would be nice to have alternative energy subsidies that were at least as large as the su...
[19:17:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03bart9h [767] (Score:2) 02Re:perfect groupthink example - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:17:44] <exec> 08└─IIRC, Funny is adds to the comment score, but not to the karma.
[19:21:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Malware on the machine? - 06Researchers Hack Air-Gapped Computer With Simple Cell Phone - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:21:29] <exec> 08└─I'm pretty sure I've heard about the possibility of turning internal computer wires into sending antennas by software years ago. Therefore I'd expect anything really security critical to be in Faraday cages, provided whoever is responsible for security is worth the money he earns.
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[20:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:what is this thing? - 06Intel and Micron Announce 3D XPoint, A New Type of Memory and Storage - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:39] <exec> 08└─Or reduced to zero and the department closed.
[20:13:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:16 gig? - 06Intel and Micron Announce 3D XPoint, A New Type of Memory and Storage - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:44] <exec> 08└─yeah. well I do scientific computing. I need RAM.
[20:13:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03xav [5579] (Score:1) 02Not a threat? Good power of nuisance anyway - 06Unhinged Linux Backdoor Still Poses a Nuisance, if not a Threat - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:56] <exec> 08└─Well, if everything is true, we have a program that can spawn a shell, a Socks proxy, start a DDOS attack and execute any command. Considering this, I would regard the malware as a serious threat and I would not really care if it is half-baked and that a set of commands is ignored. Moreover, if the...
[20:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03morgauxo [2082] (Score:2) 02Passing it on - 06CRISPR Used to Edit Human T Cells - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:05] <exec> 08└─I'm so glad that scientists and the public find it more ethical to make changes to adult cells rather than alter embryos. God forbid our children be immune to HIV! That would just be wrong!
[20:14:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Key benefits - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 1031 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:45] <exec> 08└─Its still got some serious suckage, which is why I'm advising customers to avoid it for a few more months to see what MSFT does about it. For the most glaring example the fucked all to hell Windows 8/ Windows 7 mashup that is "settings" and "control panel". I have yet to find a way to simply remove...
[20:14:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:Make sure you read the fine print - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:59] <exec> 08└─Heh. You basically described Google.
[20:15:17] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02It seems to me - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 61 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:15:17] <exec> 08└─It seems to me the best version of that OS yet was Windows 9.
[20:15:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Living the Vida Linux (and MacOS X) - 06Windows 10 Launches Worldwide - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:15:27] <exec> 08└─Well, all this is amusing considering that my Windows 8.1 laptop is sitting on the floor in my home office on its side propped between two book shelves looking rather forlorn because it hasn't been used in a couple months. Given that my other computers are all Macs and have MacOS or Linux installed...
[20:16:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Entitlement in ACTION! - 06California Exports Gasoline to Mexico Despite 'Shortage' - 1122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:16:52] <exec> 08└─Keep in mind that capitalism has a greater chance of solving that problem than Socialism or Marxism. As the OP unwittingly illustrated, capitalism naturally redistributes wealth. Those low-cost suppliers make money and create jobs. Those high-paying customers lose wealth in the transaction. The midd...
[20:18:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why don't they defy the NSL and kill anyone tha - 06Automattic Says Spooks Asked for Something It Can't Reveal - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:18:55] <exec> 08└─Why don't they defy the NSL and kill anyone that comes to arrest them?
[20:18:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Why don't they defy the NSL and kill anyone tha - 06Automattic Says Spooks Asked for Something It Can't Reveal - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:18:57] <exec> 08└─Why don't they defy the NSL and spend 5 years getting the case in front of this Very 1st-friendly SCOTUS?
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[21:13:34] <exec> 08└─So long as it is unlicensed.
[21:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:2) 02Re:what is this thing? - 06Intel and Micron Announce 3D XPoint, A New Type of Memory and Storage - 428 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:47] <exec> 08└─Which worked fine when most inventions required relatively little in the way of resources to produce. These days, the inventions we really need are the ones that require millions of dollars in funding to properly test. Take away the USPTO entirely and those innovations won't be coming out of the US...
[21:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:what is this thing? - 06Intel and Micron Announce 3D XPoint, A New Type of Memory and Storage - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:50] <exec> 08└─doh..I didn't see the small "b". My brain only read the Bytes part.
[21:14:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03angst_ridden_hipster [5616] (Score:1) 02Re:California - 06El Nino Growing Stronger - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:32] <exec> 08└─yeah, the El Nino in ... '02? thereabouts? flooded my Mar Vista back yard during one short downpour. I should probably get myself some sandbags in advance of this winter.
[21:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:Dealing with change - 06El Nino Growing Stronger - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:37] <exec> 08└─After a week of rain or heat or WTF its no longer a story, its just how it is. With the obvious exception of the 1% of the population who farm
[21:16:35] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bziman [3577] 02This would be really cool... - 06U.S. Military Increasing Development of Directed Energy Weapons - 554 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:16:35] <exec> 08└─This would be really cool, if it weren't a boondoggle to transfer wealth from the public to the ruling class. We don't need more and better weapons. We need to to stop invading random sovereign countries and threatening violence on the rest. War as a means of national defense is obsolete in America....
[21:17:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:1) 02Re:Snowden is a hero - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:17:38] <exec> 08└─Nobody actually wears suits any more, but almost every hotel has upgraded all its rooms to be suites.
[21:20:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I wish - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:20:36] <exec> 08└─Starting about 1980, after every recession, employment comes back to "normal" levels SLOWER each cycle. It takes ever longer to return to normal. If the trend continues, then the ramp up span will last longer than span itself between recessions.
[21:20:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wishful thinking - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:20:51] <exec> 08└─Congratulations, you just put yourself on The List which will - ironically - prevent you from doing what you would be attempting to do.
[21:20:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wishful thinking - 06Love of Learning is the Key to Success in the Jobless Future - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:20:58] <exec> 08└─But there's no money in that... who would develop such a thing? Hey everybody, look at this pulsating artery in my neck here... watch me stab it!
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[22:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02That's why there's Adblock etc. - 06Ad Companies Deliberately Slowing Web Page Loading? - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:36] <exec> 08└─Even with Adblock Plus, when I opened the BI link there was a splash page (with only the text) wanting me to look at it for ten seconds before it fed me article. That's why I like old fashioned newspapers. The ads don't get the way of the article.
[22:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03FreeUser [5423] (Score:1) 02Re:That's why there's Adblock etc. - 06Ad Companies Deliberately Slowing Web Page Loading? - 405 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:37] <exec> 08└─Even with Adblock Plus, when I opened the BI link there was a splash page (with only the text) wanting me to look at it for ten seconds before it fed me article. That's why I like old fashioned newspapers. The ads don't get the way of the article. Old fashioned websites without that shit are pretty...
[22:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:That's why there's Adblock etc. - 06Ad Companies Deliberately Slowing Web Page Loading? - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:39] <exec> 08└─> when I opened the BI link there was a splash page (with only the text) wanting me to look at it for ten seconds Not for me. NoScript user here. BI doesn't seem to depend on javascript for anything important. At least not for reading individual articles which is all I ever do there.
[22:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02This would have worked better at Slashdot, but... - 06Ad Companies Deliberately Slowing Web Page Loading? - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:41] <exec> 08└─First post!
[22:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03TestablePredictions [3249] (Score:1) 02Publisher incentives - 06Ad Companies Deliberately Slowing Web Page Loading? - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:43] <exec> 08└─Why exactly does page loading and display even *have* a dependency on the Ad anyway? Ok, ok, the publishers want visitors to see the ads and get the publishers cut of the revenue. But website publishers incentives to look the other way would only go so far. Maybe the publishers should establish thei...
[22:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Noscript - 06Ad Companies Deliberately Slowing Web Page Loading? - 410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:44] <exec> 08└─All the more reason to run with scripting disabled. The advertising industry is actively sabotaging the web, and violating your privacy. It's also a huge security risk these days. Injecting malicious scripts through self-serve ad platforms is a fast growing malware vector. Running around the web wit...
[22:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03chucky [3309] (Score:1) 02Slow-responding bidders - 06Ad Companies Deliberately Slowing Web Page Loading? - 568 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:46] <exec> 08└─There's a part in the article which I don't understand: "Naturally, there is a timeout (and not a massively conservative one) on this auction, so slow-responding bidders hold everything up, and therefore hold up the ad slot, and therefore the page." Who'd wait for a slow bidder? You wait for the hig...
[22:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:so long as... - 06A Miniature Accelerator to Treat Cancer - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:52] <exec> 08└─Depends what you mean by unlicensed. "Unlicensed" in the sense that CERN won't charge for the use of their design? Well, that would be nice. "Unlicensed" in the sense that anyone can build one and sell it as a cancer treatment? Perhaps not.
[22:14:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aichon [5059] (Score:2) 02Re:16 gig? - 06Intel and Micron Announce 3D XPoint, A New Type of Memory and Storage - 1766 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:11] <exec> 08└─Yup, 16GB is overkill for many users. And for others, it can be orders of magnitude too small. For instance, when I was doing my grad research in 2008, we had a machine with 16GB of RAM, which was quite a bit less than I wanted, given that I was analyzing a 7.8TB data set (representing a web crawl o...
[22:14:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Not a threat? Good power of nuisance anyway - 06Unhinged Linux Backdoor Still Poses a Nuisance, if not a Threat - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:23] <exec> 08└─then it is running as root... What else can you wish for?
[22:14:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:California - 06El Nino Growing Stronger - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:55] <exec> 08└─We had like 1 1/2 days of rain in July here in San Diego, the weekend before last. So if you're talking "record breaking" for "last July," yeah, I guess you're right.
[22:14:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dealing with change - 06El Nino Growing Stronger - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:59] <exec> 08└─Technically 100%, unless farmers somehow don't need to eat.
[22:17:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Brass Tacks - 06U.S. Military Increasing Development of Directed Energy Weapons - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:17:02] <exec> 08└─You did vote in the last election, right?
[22:17:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03black6host [3827] (Score:2) 02Re:cheaper batteries can't come soon enough - 06California Exports Gasoline to Mexico Despite 'Shortage' - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:17:22] <exec> 08└─I hear you regarding D cells. You can buy adapters that make an AA battery the same configuration as a D cell. Sure, there is an upfront cost but at least you won't be paying a premium for essentially the same thing every time you buy a D cell.
[22:17:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Flyingmoose [4369] (Score:1) 02Re:cheaper batteries can't come soon enough - 06California Exports Gasoline to Mexico Despite 'Shortage' - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:17:24] <exec> 08└─The article you linked says "On August 24 2010 patent US6413670 expired due to lack of fee payment, hence removing any patent encumbrance in the USA." So, what gives?
[22:19:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why don't they defy the NSL and kill anyone tha - 06Automattic Says Spooks Asked for Something It Can't Reveal - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:19:33] <exec> 08└─Doesn't work like that.
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[23:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:That's why there's Adblock etc. - 06Ad Companies Deliberately Slowing Web Page Loading? - 1294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:38] <exec> 08└─if I go to a page and it takes more than 15 seconds to unblock enough to read what they have, I block everything there (more so) and move on, never coming back. life is too short to mess with money-focused assholes like marketing guys, sales guys,WEB 'MASTERS' and so on. they are pond scum, pretty m...
[23:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:That's why there's Adblock etc. - 06Ad Companies Deliberately Slowing Web Page Loading? - 360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:39] <exec> 08└─I wonder when they are going to make it illegal to block ads. Something like the DMCA or maybe even THE DMCA*. Wet dream of these asshats destroying the Internet is DRM on every web page that forces you to view the entire thing, ads included, or be charged with terrorism for circumvention and violat...
[23:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:This would have worked better at Slashdot, but. - 06Ad Companies Deliberately Slowing Web Page Loading? - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:42] <exec> 08└─Slashdot did have this story, in which I replied "Is this why slashdot loads slower than soylent?"
[23:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:This would have worked better at Slashdot, but. - 06Ad Companies Deliberately Slowing Web Page Loading? - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:44] <exec> 08└─First post!
[23:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Publisher incentives - 06Ad Companies Deliberately Slowing Web Page Loading? - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:46] <exec> 08└─Why exactly does page loading and display even *have* a dependency on the Ad anyway?
[23:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Noscript - 06Ad Companies Deliberately Slowing Web Page Loading? - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:48] <exec> 08└─The slowdown is on the server side. Not the client side.
[23:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Noscript - 06Ad Companies Deliberately Slowing Web Page Loading? - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:49] <exec> 08└─The slowdown is on both sides.
[23:13:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03francois.barbier [651] (Score:2) 02Re:Noscript - 06Ad Companies Deliberately Slowing Web Page Loading? - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:51] <exec> 08└─If you don't load the script from that server, how is that server slowing you down?
[23:13:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Slow-responding bidders - 06Ad Companies Deliberately Slowing Web Page Loading? - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:53] <exec> 08└─There's a part in the article which I don't understand: "Naturally, there is a timeout (and not a massively conservative one) on this auction, so slow-responding bidders hold everything up, and therefore hold up the ad slot, and therefore the page." Who'd wait for a slow bidder? You wait for the hig...
[23:13:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02Is there also modivation to load ads first? - 06Ad Companies Deliberately Slowing Web Page Loading? - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:13:54] <exec> 08└─Not the concept talked about in the article, but I do seem to recall pages loading adverts first. From a revenue POV, that would make sense: load the ad first so it is the only thing for eyeballs to look at, and take your sweet time loading the real content. Unfortunately as I typed that I really wa...
[23:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:so long as... - 06A Miniature Accelerator to Treat Cancer - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:03] <exec> 08└─http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087332 [imdb.com]
[23:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:16 gig? - 06Intel and Micron Announce 3D XPoint, A New Type of Memory and Storage - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:23] <exec> 08└─A set of memory mapped files and an index probably would have help you out a decent amount.
[23:14:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not a threat? Good power of nuisance anyway - 06Unhinged Linux Backdoor Still Poses a Nuisance, if not a Threat - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:36] <exec> 08└─Installing Windows 10.
[23:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Not a threat? Good power of nuisance anyway - 06Unhinged Linux Backdoor Still Poses a Nuisance, if not a Threat - 457 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:37] <exec> 08└─I'd like to know this to -- what is the infection vector. Secondarily, I'd like to know what file I could search for to see if I'm infected. The dklkt-1 link above goes to some for-pay virus software program which will tell you if this is installed on your system. The materials linked in the TFA con...
[23:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Re:Not a threat? Good power of nuisance anyway - 06Unhinged Linux Backdoor Still Poses a Nuisance, if not a Threat - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:39] <exec> 08└─I wish that malwares from uninstall internet explorer from Windows..
[23:15:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hot but probably hurricane free - 06El Nino Growing Stronger - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:15:05] <exec> 08└─If it's windy with lots of hot air it's probably "The Donald".
[23:18:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03albert [276] (Score:1) 02reality-based conservatives exist - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 1004 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:18:27] <exec> 08└─Bob Jones University would kick me off campus mighty fast. I'd probably reach escape velocity. It probably hasn't occurred to you, but there exist conservatives who are not Bible-thumping types driving pickups with confederate flags. It's possible to be a reality-based thinker with conservative valu...
[23:18:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:and why did he make mistakes...? - 06White House Responds to Petition to Pardon Edward Snowden - 460 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:18:29] <exec> 08└─> we see that he actually started a war because he was misinformed. That's a misleading characterization. Yes, the best available intelligence on Iraq's WMD program suggested that they did have WMDs. But the expiration date on that intelligence was 5 years past. Bush and his collaborators choose to...
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