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[00:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Spam) 02the song of pig fucker - 06Game Over for Epic 15-Year-Long Console Ban, Says China - 1245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:13:18] <exec> 08└─you want sneaker net you son of a bitch hey dont call me a son of a bitch i just did you son of a bitch well what does that make you what do you mean i saw you jacking off with mama's good napkins what!? yeah, you were there in the bathroom, with your pet snake coiled around your penis bullshit, pro...
[00:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:As smart as a dog - 06Robotics and the Law: When Software Can Harm You - 1085 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:13:28] <exec> 08└─Those disclaimers may well be invalid already. Nobody is going to let Toyota off the hook if its software embodied with a 4000 pound dangerous weapon suddenly accelerates because of some EULA. There are certain things it is impossible to do in a contract. If you sign a contract giving me permission...
[00:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Re:As smart as a dog - 06Robotics and the Law: When Software Can Harm You - 535 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:13:29] <exec> 08└─I generally agree with your tack, but I think some people overestimate how quickly things will be replaced by software by underestimating the difficulty and importance of managing liability in a context where you will likely be sued and/or forced to issue expensive recalls when things go wrong. Ther...
[00:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02A soldier might do well to save a robot's life - 06Robotics and the Law: When Software Can Harm You - 566 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:13:31] <exec> 08└─This is portrayed by Kurt Vonnegut in Player Piano, a dystopian novel in which only engineers and their managers have real jobs. A combat veteran tells of the failure of a robotic gun. Not just he but all of his comrades would have been slaughtered by the enemy had he not repaired it. He obtained t...
[00:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Takyon - please don't! - 06Something Different - Space Photos of the Week from Wired - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:13:49] <exec> 08└─Implying I was going to add actual images.
[00:14:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:deep sea drilling/mining is a bad idea - 06Deep-Sea Mining Looms on Horizon as UN Body Issues Contracts - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:14:17] <exec> 08└─Mindless consumption is the only thing keeping capitalist growth-based economies going. As soon as it stagnates for a moment depression/recession is the result. How else can we continue to increase productivity by 2-4% per year without having unemployment increase at a similar rate but make more and...
[00:14:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Re:Something ... - 06Deep-Sea Mining Looms on Horizon as UN Body Issues Contracts - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:14:23] <exec> 08└─As long as we don't dig around R'lyeh it should probably be good. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[00:14:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:What's the issue here? - 06HP Enforcing Dress Code for R&D Employees - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:14:53] <exec> 08└─I would think that by now, a customer would get worried if he/she _didn't_ see the scruffy guys off in the corners intent on something. That's the stereotype right? If all they see are people in loafers, dockers, and button down shirts, they might think "jeez -- are you all marketing and no engineer...
[00:14:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:1, Offtopic) 02Re:What's the issue here? - 06HP Enforcing Dress Code for R&D Employees - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:14:55] <exec> 08└─That seems rather cruel: you got them a crappy coffeemaker that has built-in DRM forcing them to buy Keurig-branded pods?
[00:14:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:What's the issue here? - 06HP Enforcing Dress Code for R&D Employees - 469 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:14:57] <exec> 08└─Aside from all that -- what fucking cheapskate. What's the most expensive keruig (however its spelled, don't care) out there? This was the most expensive one I could find: http://www.amazon.com [amazon.com] and even at $335, I'm not impressed, ei...
[00:15:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score:2) 02Re:What's the issue here? - 06HP Enforcing Dress Code for R&D Employees - 458 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:15:01] <exec> 08└─That's a well thought out and rational response, I'll give you that. We'll just have to agree to disagree. I somehow doubt that it would be fine with you if you walked into a public business and all the employees were naked and covered in human waste while wearing horse tail and bunny rabbit tail bu...
[00:16:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Farkus888 [5159] (Score:2) 02Facebook depression - 06Self-Hating Software Professionals? - 637 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:16:13] <exec> 08└─This is the same form of problem as Facebook causing depression. People post more of when they have fun, their trips or parties. In aggregate it looks like everyone is partying all the time when you are busy working. In reality most of those people have a relatively similar ratio of fun to chores as...
[00:16:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Claims that Media Matters can't count - 06MSNBC Cans the Only Cable TV Host Who Extensively Covered TPP - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:16:36] <exec> 08└─I remember them mentioning it a few times, but usually it was presented in a positive light by the guests they had on.
[00:16:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Kuro5hin - 06Kuro5hin is Dying - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:16:56] <exec> 08└─As long as the editors here put in good work, and don't pull blatant trolling/clickbaiting like slashdot's, this site will continue to be a quality forum.
[00:17:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Kuro5hin's forum software - 06Kuro5hin is Dying - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:17:09] <exec> 08└─You are correct. Scoop Debuts [kuro5hin.org] Scoop [...] borrows many ideas from slash. It does not, however, use any code from the slash distribution, unless you count the database structures, which are only slightly modified from slash's. But the perl is all fresh and shiny.
[00:17:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Comms? - 06Windbot Could Float Through the Clouds of Jupiter - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:17:27] <exec> 08└─http://www.nasa.gov/feature/windbots-persistent-in-situ-science-explorers-for-gas-giants [nasa.gov] There's not much information.
[00:21:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Now I can go to the bar, drink and get home - 06Majority Prefer Driverless Technology - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:21:19] <exec> 08└─Freedom doesn't enter in the equation
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[01:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02New market? - 06Game Over for Epic 15-Year-Long Console Ban, Says China - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:13:18] <exec> 08└─videogame makers will no doubt be relishing the opportunity Trying to make a buck out of folks who can't afford to buy the gadgets they produce because they earn less than $2/hr? I wonder how that is going to go. -- gewg_
[01:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:New market? - 06Game Over for Epic 15-Year-Long Console Ban, Says China - 977 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:19] <exec> 08└─You might be right, but not for the reasons you think: China's Rising Wages and the 'Made in USA' Revival [bloomberg.com] When China joined the World Trade Organization in 2001, the average hourly manufacturing wage in the Yangtze River Delta was 82¢ an hour. Oil was $20 a barrel, so no matter whe...
[01:13:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:As smart as a dog - 06Robotics and the Law: When Software Can Harm You - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:31] <exec> 08└─Virtually all software is distributed with a disclaimer denying any warranty or responsibility for outcomes achieved with the software.
[01:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03pyg [4381] (Score:1) 02Best $15 ever - 06Low Cost Weather Satellite Image Receiver - 711 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:13:43] <exec> 08└─For amateur radio on a budget these little dongles are the most bang for buck out there above even Chinese made HTs. Another $5 gets you an smx to so239 or sma adapter as the given antenna is useless. The model he's talking about will tune 22 -1766 MHz so 12 meters through most of the cell phone ban...
[01:14:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:2) 02Re:"We owe it to future generations" - 06Deep-Sea Mining Looms on Horizon as UN Body Issues Contracts - 395 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:14:24] <exec> 08└─I'm looking to become a lineman in part because of the renewables. The power grid needs to be updated no matter what we do. Whether it continues to grow or we need to shift to renewables, there's going to be tons more work for the people that maintain the infrastructure. Even without growth there wi...
[01:16:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re: Facebook depression - 06Self-Hating Software Professionals? - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:16:19] <exec> 08└─This one is worth a +1; insightful.
[01:17:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"k5 is dying" has never been true. - 06Kuro5hin is Dying - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:17:21] <exec> 08└─What the ever living fuck was this word salad I just read?
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[02:13:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03GoonDu [2623] (Score:2) 02Interesting - 06Game Over for Epic 15-Year-Long Console Ban, Says China - 524 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:13:32] <exec> 08└─This is rather interesting for a variety of reasons. I would think a strong PC culture there means it could be hard for console to get a piece of the gaming market. Besides, it's not as if the Chinese are isolated from AAA games and what not. There is also a strong piracy mindset there which means g...
[02:14:17] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02xkcd - 06The Geometry of String Theory Compactifications (I): the Basics - 3112 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:14:18] <exec> 08└─This series cries out for a guest lecture/poster session with xkcd in the spirit of "up goer five" I can't even begin with the top 1000 word translation as per above. The author missed all kinds of fun analogies with mapmaping where you implode 3D earth into a 2D map and its pretty awesome on a real...
[02:14:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Disgusting. - 06Deep-Sea Mining Looms on Horizon as UN Body Issues Contracts - 1059 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:14:33] <exec> 08└─Then why dont you give up all of the consumerist garbage you posted with this and go live out in the woods somewhere like a caveman. You like most envirofascists berate others but consider yourself to be exempt from all of the same ideologies you would force on others because you feel you are especi...
[02:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:deep sea drilling/mining is a bad idea - 06Deep-Sea Mining Looms on Horizon as UN Body Issues Contracts - 1072 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:14:38] <exec> 08└─How so? The deep ocean basins surfaces are 2-5 miles down, well below the photic zone. While there is some stuff down there, its nowhere near the level of biodiversity and biodensity that you have on land. How could it be any worse than wiping out some rainforest on land for building a mine? The oce...
[02:14:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:deep sea drilling/mining is a bad idea - 06Deep-Sea Mining Looms on Horizon as UN Body Issues Contracts - 372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:14:40] <exec> 08└─By the way I am not against having a plan to move any animals, probably some thing could be created to pick them up and place them somewhere else. The mining is likely only a temporary disturbance as well. The problem is that environmental nuts would try to just hold up for a hundred years beyond re...
[02:14:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"We owe it to future generations" - 06Deep-Sea Mining Looms on Horizon as UN Body Issues Contracts - 725 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:14:43] <exec> 08└─The deep ocean basin where this mining should be done is 2-5 miles under water. This is far below the photic zone. The biodiversity down there is very low, not much lives there, its mostly some bottom feeding communities that feeds on what floats down from the photic zone. Your not going to find any...
[02:15:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedBear [1734] (Score:2) 02Re:What's the issue here? - 06HP Enforcing Dress Code for R&D Employees - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:15:23] <exec> 08└─That's a well thought out and rational response, I'll give you that. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
[02:16:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wrong neighborhood - 06Self-Hating Software Professionals? - 1056 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:16:32] <exec> 08└─I personally do not mind /r/programming. It is much more 'accepting' of beginners or people just having a brain fart. Unlike here and SD where the attitude is very 'my way or shut the fucking hell up'. I like this attitude much better. https://xkcd.com [xkcd.com] It is seriously fun to teach p...
[02:18:51] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02No Apologia Here - 06Founder of GNU Bestows Blessing Upon Open Source Crowdfunding Site - 3080 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:18:52] <exec> 08└─I'm not an editor, I only submit articles. Those I choose to submit are those which I think Soylent might find interesting. The manner in which I do that, ie. an excerpt representative of the article in blockquote tags and a quip from me, is consistent with time-honored practice from the early days...
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[03:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Computing alive and well in Iran - 06An Iranian Cloud Architect on the Lifting of Sanctions - 613 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:13:19] <exec> 08└─I work at a university; this spring I had the pleasure of meeting a young woman from Tehran who was working in our supercomputing research group. She did her BS and MS in Iran, her PhD in the States, and was absolutely brilliant at developing physics simulations. She was also drop-dead gorgeous. Peo...
[03:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Bobbi Kristina finally is at rest - RIP - 06An Iranian Cloud Architect on the Lifting of Sanctions - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
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[03:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Re:New market? - 06Game Over for Epic 15-Year-Long Console Ban, Says China - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:13:39] <exec> 08└─I've been reading these sort of articles for a few months now, particularly the robotic factory stories, but I'm not buying it. If the Chinese Communist Party want to have millions of unemployed former manufacturing workers rioting in the streets, then that's the way to go about it. I don't think th...
[03:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03patella.whack [3848] (Score:1) 02Re:As smart as a dog - 06Robotics and the Law: When Software Can Harm You - 443 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:13:52] <exec> 08└─I particularly like your distillation of the issues here. You articulated them better than I did. One interesting thing your comment raised is the self-replicating component of our definition of life. I would say that reproduction shouldn't be part of the criteria as to whether or not an AI being is...
[03:15:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:What's the issue here? - 06HP Enforcing Dress Code for R&D Employees - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:15:28] <exec> 08└─Actually, I disagree (unfortunately). They probably think it's great. Where I work now, and the last place I worked too, there's been Keurigs, and the employees just love those damn things. It's just like how everyone back in the 70s loved disco for some unknown reason. Face it, people are sheep.
[03:15:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What's the issue here? - 06HP Enforcing Dress Code for R&D Employees - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:15:33] <exec> 08└─If you wear ultra-casual clothes to work all the time, how will you ever be able to "dress down" when you get home or go on vacation, and feel like you aren't working anymore? That's one of the best things about vacation, wearing stuff you'd never be allowed to wear at work!
[03:15:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] 02Re:Dess for the job you want to keep. - 06HP Enforcing Dress Code for R&D Employees - 2179 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:15:48] <exec> 08└─Really? It's my “right” (choice) not to work for them and I sure exercise that choice. I've worn my share of uniforms, all of them had at least one important function directly related to a core and essential part of being able to do the job, none of them would be considered normal clothes or mis...
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[04:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 506 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:13:20] <exec> 08└─You need something to defend yourself with. This is why diminutive people need firearms. This freak showed up with a variety of weapons, including the firearm he was killed with. The victim knew from the first moment what his intentions were? She should have had a weapon. Oh, wait. In our screwed up...
[04:13:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I need feminism because there are too many - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:13:21] <exec> 08└─MRA redpill freaks using backpage!
[04:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Computing alive and well in Iran - 06An Iranian Cloud Architect on the Lifting of Sanctions - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:30] <exec> 08└─Iran is different from all the arab countries in that the average Moe on the street has a very favorable attitude towards the US, while the regime is in opposition to the US. In all the arab states the regime has favorable relations with the US (even Syria because ISIS!) while the average Moe on the...
[04:13:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Computing alive and well in Iran - 06An Iranian Cloud Architect on the Lifting of Sanctions - 452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:32] <exec> 08└─I don't know anything about Middle East politics beyond what the average citizen knows, but I suspect that Obama - just by being a black POTUS - had a pretty profound effect on opinions over there. The fact that he was elected showed that the USA walked the walk when it came to democracy and freedom...
[04:13:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Computing alive and well in Iran - 06An Iranian Cloud Architect on the Lifting of Sanctions - 406 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:34] <exec> 08└─One factor in the Arab Spring was Wikileaks and Chelsea Manning and their publication of the US diplomatic cables detailing the corruption and abuses of their own governments. The publication of these cables from the US Embassy in Tunisia detailing the corruption and double-dealing of their former p...
[04:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:New market? - 06Game Over for Epic 15-Year-Long Console Ban, Says China - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:51] <exec> 08└─The alternatives are wages rising too fast, causing outsourcing from China to cheaper countries and back into the U.S. (with a greater ratio of robots to workers), or an exasperation of income inequality between rural and urban Chinese. Or they can use robots themselves to stem the decline and figur...
[04:13:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:New market? - 06Game Over for Epic 15-Year-Long Console Ban, Says China - 1573 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:52] <exec> 08└─The Communist Party can only control the economy so much. The real estate boom in China and the stock market crash are examples of how the economic forces are moving beyond the command and control phase of the Communist system. The rising standard of living will be a ratchet that slowly erodes the C...
[04:14:04] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] 02Re:As smart as a dog - 06Robotics and the Law: When Software Can Harm You - 535 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:14:04] <exec> 08└─I generally agree with your tack, but I think some people overestimate how quickly things will be replaced by software by underestimating the difficulty and importance of managing liability in a context where you will likely be sued and/or forced to issue expensive recalls when things go wrong. Ther...
[04:14:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:xkcd - 06The Geometry of String Theory Compactifications (I): the Basics - 657 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:14:45] <exec> 08└─It also damage science. You got Jenny McCarthy's of the world screaming vaccine causes autism. And then you have eco-nazies hollering "earth is warming, we have sinned, we all gonna die". And then we have physicists, and not just some eccentric cranks but of the establishment big-shot top academic...
[04:15:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03spxero [3061] (Score:2) 02Re:What's the issue here? - 06HP Enforcing Dress Code for R&D Employees - 517 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:15:44] <exec> 08└─In my office we have two options (employer paid): Folgers or Keurig. The Folgers is almost always full, and sometimes you get the motor-oil version where someone has placed two of the Folgers filters together and run it again. The Keurig option is more or less manual and takes longer, but the option...
[04:15:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:1) 02Re:What's the issue here? - 06HP Enforcing Dress Code for R&D Employees - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:15:53] <exec> 08└─I think and perform better when I am not hampered by brainfarts from middle management. The more middle management tries to micromanage, the worse performance they get from pretty much everyone. Besides, if the brain requires oxygen, why wear a tie?
[04:18:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"k5 is dying" has never been true. - 06Kuro5hin is Dying - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:18:04] <exec> 08└─The kind of word salad that killed K5.
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[05:13:18] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 506 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:13:18] <exec> 08└─You need something to defend yourself with. This is why diminutive people need firearms. This freak showed up with a variety of weapons, including the firearm he was killed with. The victim knew from the first moment what his intentions were? She should have had a weapon. Oh, wait. In our screwed up...
[05:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:19] <exec> 08└─Oh, wait. In our screwed up society, a "sex worker" probably has an arrest record. No guns for her, right? Her life isn't valuable enough to defend.
[05:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:21] <exec> 08└─I'm sure a man marrying a female child is one of the worst crimes ever right? The older testament allows men to marry girl children.
[05:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 615 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:22] <exec> 08└─In all fairness - when this "fact" is brought up, people should be reminded that life expectancy back then wasn't what it is today. When a person reached sexual maturity, they were not only expected to, but they mostly WANTED to procreate. Although the Jews never experienced the dark ages of Europe,...
[05:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:24] <exec> 08└─So John Houser shouldn't have been denied weapons because he could've been victimized by a home invader too, right? And the same goes for the South Carolina church shooter. Everybody deserves and needs to carry around multiple sacks of automatic weapons! USA! USA!
[05:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 838 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:26] <exec> 08└─I believe that the authorities have already admitted that they screwed the pooch with Houser. He wasn't permitted to have a weapon. HOWEVER - I think that Houser should have had access to weapons - but I also think that the theater goers should have had access to their own weapons. House stands up,...
[05:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 536 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:27] <exec> 08└─> House stands up, pulls out a weapon, and takes a shot - and five people return fire. Because in a theater everybody is paying attention to what is going on behind them. > Crazy shooters should be treated just like rabid dogs. They're free to do anything they care to do, UNTIL they start using a we...
[05:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 525 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:29] <exec> 08└─House was not suicidal. He planned for a getaway. He only returned to the theater when he heard the cops outside. And - so what if the shooter is suicidal? If five people shoot back at the shooter, he gets his wish BEFORE he murders ten, or fifty other people. I say, "Justice served." Paying attenti...
[05:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 899 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:30] <exec> 08└─> House was not suicidal. I soooo knew you would say that. Remember the 90% number and the part about not being articulated? Just because he had a half-baked plan doesn't mean that was his goal. The half-baked part is a pretty clear give away there. > If five people shoot back at the shooter, he ge...
[05:13:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:32] <exec> 08└─House stands up, pulls out a weapon, and takes a shot - and five people return fire.
[05:13:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:35] <exec> 08└─I think that Houser should have had access to weapons - but I also think that the theater goers should have had access to their own weapons. House stands up, pulls out a weapon, and takes a shot - and five people return fire.
[05:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:36] <exec> 08└─So John Houser shouldn't have been denied weapons because he could've been victimized by a home invader too, right? And the same goes for the South Carolina church shooter.
[05:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:38] <exec> 08└─You do know that people from the US don't call it the "USA" and certainly don't chant it any more than every German is a Nazi or every person from the UK is a genocidal imperialist, right?
[05:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Women should not have weapons - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:39] <exec> 08└─Women should not have weapons. Girls should be married off when they are children.
[05:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:41] <exec> 08└─This is why diminutive people need firearms.
[05:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 829 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:43] <exec> 08└─Interesting statistics. I hope you don't believe that those statistics "just happened". The whole "war on drugs", and the tactic of targeting the drugs favored by black people were designed with that specific goal in mind. And, I'll note that gun laws are designed to achieve the same kind of goal. C...
[05:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:44] <exec> 08└─> There are statistics that show up over and over again that you are much more likely to get shot if you own a gun, than if you don't. Beware the bias of self-selection. Without an actual citation to evaluate my expectation is that the reason they bought the gun in the first place is because they ha...
[05:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Queue the Anti-Backpage Crowd - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 583 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:13:46] <exec> 08└─The morale crusaders will have their pitchforks out over Backpage for this. They do so in the misguided thinking that if Backpage didn't exist, neither would prostitution. Just imagine if prostitution were legal, and there was an Uber-like system with mutual client and worker ratings. This guy could...
[05:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Queue the Anti-Backpage Crowd - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:47] <exec> 08└─Defensive much? Prostitution will likely always exist, at least until/if technology transforms our species into something radically different. Backpage seems to be a successor of Craigslist, and neither site can wash their hands of responsibility of brutal murders perpetrated by predators who were *...
[05:13:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:Queue the Anti-Backpage Crowd - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:49] <exec> 08└─Shhhhhh - let's go easy on the "if backpage didn't exist" bit. The next logical step would be conclude that without genitalia, prostitution wouldn't exist. I foresee a call for mass genitalia mutilation - both male and female. Let's just keep this thing quiet, and maybe the crazies won't get carried...
[05:13:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Queue the Anti-Backpage Crowd - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:51] <exec> 08└─Just imagine if prostitution were legal, and there was an Uber-like system with mutual client and worker ratings. This guy couldn't have gotten far in that were available.
[05:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02This is why rape victims should report attacks - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 753 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:13:52] <exec> 08└─I know some women who have been raped. They did not report their attacks to the police. There are many reasons rape victims choose not to; one is that they are convinced their attacker will not get caught, another is that "Rape Kit" examination can be humiliating and another is that they want to cle...
[05:13:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03m2o2r2g2 [3673] (Score:1) 02Tech news... - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:13:54] <exec> 08└─Sounds cold blooded but... Apart from the fact the ad was on an internet page rather than a local newspaper, how is this tech/science news? There are already too many depressing stories about the worst of mankind in mainstream news. Please leave them there. A woman on the other side of the planet sh...
[05:13:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Tech news... - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:55] <exec> 08└─You know, it's just "special". Involved a Subaru.
[05:13:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Anyone used Backpage? - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 670 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:13:57] <exec> 08└─Not a troll: serious question. I've been thinking about finding a prostitute. I want a no-strings, clean and safe, anonymous, vanilla sexual encounter with a woman between 30 and 40. I'm a clean, upright citizen with a relationship that isn't satisfying me, and I want a night or a couple of hours to...
[05:13:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Computing alive and well in Iran - 06An Iranian Cloud Architect on the Lifting of Sanctions - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:59] <exec> 08└─I would have chalked that up to the poor state of the economy and food shortages, as background fuel for the fire, while the self-immolation of a man who felt abused by a regime that was corrupt internally, a man who probably never heard of wikileaks, was the spark that set off the fire.
[05:13:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Democracy - 06An Iranian Cloud Architect on the Lifting of Sanctions - 1003 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:14:00] <exec> 08└─"walked the walk" Uhhhh, no. And, an Iranian will be the first to set you straight on that. Operation Ajax was the definitive action. The Wikipedia has a pretty good article on Ajax. I'll take the liberty of summarizing: In 1954 Iran had a genuine democracy, legitimately elected by the people. That...
[05:14:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Computing alive and well in Iran - 06An Iranian Cloud Architect on the Lifting of Sanctions - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:14:02] <exec> 08└─> I suspect that Obama - just by being a black POTUS - had a pretty profound effect on opinions over there. And the fact that under Obama the drone program has killed at least an order of magnitude more innocents than under Bush undid much of it. The news rarely reports it over here but drone killin...
[05:16:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What's the issue here? - 06HP Enforcing Dress Code for R&D Employees - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:16:01] <exec> 08└─Aren't we all slaves. We all must sign away our life (or rather all our IP, including what we do at home in "our time") to get a job.
[05:16:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'm comfortable with what I do. - 06Self-Hating Software Professionals? - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:16:52] <exec> 08└─Because I'm good enough I'm smart enough And doggoneit People like me!
[05:18:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Popeidol [35] (Score:2) 02Re:Comms? - 06Windbot Could Float Through the Clouds of Jupiter - 1518 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:18:47] <exec> 08└─I'm about as far from an expert as it's possible to be and horrifically oversimplifying everything, but some of those problems should be surmountable: While Jupiter is huge, it's still a sphere. You should be able to see a hell of a lot of it from orbit and the further out the orbit is the less of a...
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[06:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 1460 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:25] <exec> 08└─What I've "heard" but can't recall the reference, is that the poor life expectancy back in the day was heavily skewed by infant mortality, and that once past toddlerhood or some other young age, most people could expect to live to 50 or 60. OK, so searching leads me here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
[06:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:2) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 851 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:26] <exec> 08└─The problem here is that there are psychopaths and sociopaths in society and it's not always easy to identify them. Guns have the additional problem of being prone to accidents if you're not careful with them and are easily abused for things like suicide. Prostitution itself is banned in large part...
[06:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:28] <exec> 08└─I realize that some folks seem to think that there should be no rules, but we live in a democratic society and ultimately, some behaviors are just not consistent with human rights.
[06:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:29] <exec> 08└─Human trafficking exists BECAUSE prostitution is banned. If prostitution were 100% legal and open, then the pimp(s) would have one hell of a hard time trapping girls into these "relationships". Entrapping the johns for soliciting doesn't impress me much. There's just something about the term "entrap...
[06:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:31] <exec> 08└─Prostitution itself is banned in large part due to human trafficking ...
[06:13:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:33] <exec> 08└─lame, that "who would want to own a receptionist" was part of an aborted thought along the lines of: receptionists are annoyingly immature, drama magnets, and typically unreliable for any extended duration. Who would want to own that problem when you get them for minimum wage and fire them whenever...
[06:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:37] <exec> 08└─My mental contortions? What of your own? You KNOW that there are dangerous poeple out there, but you are content to deny the average person any opportunity to protect himself from those dangerous people. Do you always win this game? http://evenementnieuws.nl
[06:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 551 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:39] <exec> 08└─> You KNOW that there are dangerous poeple out there, but you are content to deny the average person any opportunity to protect himself from those dangerous people. Actually I haven't said one thing in favor of gun control, in fact, in at least one other sub-thread here I've taken apart a pro-gun co...
[06:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03redneckmother [3597] (Score:1) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 535 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:41] <exec> 08└─ummm, I'm not sure that I disagree with you, but the "tools [to] murder people in mere seconds" also includes common objects like knives, hammers, rocks, glass, pencils, etc. Yes, in an ideal world, "nutjobs" shouldn't have access to anything dangerous, but "non-nutjobs" shouldn't be denied tools fo...
[06:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:43] <exec> 08└─> BTW - did you know a news magazine can be easily used as a lethal weapon? You have a different definition 'easily' than most people. I'm confident that the average person can kill much more easily with a gun than with a rolled up magazine. If that weren't the case, nobody would bother with guns, w...
[06:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 1362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:44] <exec> 08└─Just as long as we don't do it by implementing a massive background check infrastructure that is easily co-opted for all kinds of other uses. But that seems to be the direction we are heading down. My solution for reducing gun deaths is not popular with many - (1) Improve mental health services - 2/...
[06:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:46] <exec> 08└─anyone actually trying to be a mass murderer is already breaking more serious laws.
[06:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:47] <exec> 08└─You've obviously never been to the USA. They certainly do call it the "USA" and chant it like genocidal imperialists.
[06:13:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03redneckmother [3597] (Score:1) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:49] <exec> 08└─uhhh... "They", as in "Everyone"? I call "shenanigans".
[06:13:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:51] <exec> 08└─Don't be obtuse.
[06:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:52] <exec> 08└─I call bullshit. The only place I've ever heard people chanting "USA USA" is on Youtube. Of course, I've only been in the US for about 55 years or so. I spent the other 4 years overseas, so I can't really claim to know a whole lot about the USA.
[06:13:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:54] <exec> 08└─And, I'll note that gun laws are designed to achieve the same kind of goal.
[06:13:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 1341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:56] <exec> 08└─I invite you to do a search - gun laws are indeed racist, and the earliest gun laws in what would become the United States targeted black people specifically. http://www.georgiacarry.org [georgiacarry.org] Just enter the search term int...
[06:13:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:57] <exec> 08└─I invite you to do a search
[06:13:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 728 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:59] <exec> 08└─In this case the lady did not save herself with her own weapon. She managed to over come her assailant by alert action. Still For once I've got to agree with Runaway. The 2nd Amendment says the right to bear arms shall not be infringed. It does not say the right to bear arms shall not be infringed u...
[06:14:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Queue the Anti-Backpage Crowd - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 585 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:14:04] <exec> 08└─You, Sir, or Ma'am, certainly get points for THINKING. All the same, I think that a ratings system would help to weed out the less - uhhh - disciplined? Not sure that's the word I want, but I'll let it ride. That is, the crazy, impulsive nutjob with no self discipline would give himself away quickly...
[06:14:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Queue the Anti-Backpage Crowd - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 449 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:14:06] <exec> 08└─> As for the social stigma - better that, than to have John Law harassing you constantly. Currently, prostitutes are at the mercy of EVERYONE. I wasn't talking about the stigma for the workers, I was talking about stigma for the people paying them. They've got the money, they aren't going to be happ...
[06:14:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Queue the Anti-Backpage Crowd - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:14:08] <exec> 08└─While I am pro-prostitution, I have to say you have not thought that through very well. Ever heard of the long con?
[06:14:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Queue the Anti-Backpage Crowd - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:14:10] <exec> 08└─>> This guy couldn't have gotten far in that were available. So the very fact that prostitution is illegal is a key enabling factor for serial killers like this man > > "Somebody could pull a long con and still kill them, so its pointless to legalize it!" is just another way of using the nirvana fal...
[06:14:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:Queue the Anti-Backpage Crowd - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:14:11] <exec> 08└─The morale crusaders will have their pitchforks out over Backpage for this.
[06:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Computing alive and well in Iran - 06An Iranian Cloud Architect on the Lifting of Sanctions - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:14:23] <exec> 08└─That man was being harrassed and disrespected by a female cop. I'm sure your cunt moderators will downvote this fact.
[06:14:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:New market? - 06Game Over for Epic 15-Year-Long Console Ban, Says China - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:14:47] <exec> 08└─way to keep people busy and from dissenting
[06:15:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Some are interested in Space, none in WIRED - 06Something Different - Space Photos of the Week from Wired - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:15:26] <exec> 08└─Please, save us from the greatest poser magazine in the history of print. A nice link to the Astronomy Picture of the Day would be a nice alternative.
[06:15:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:Some are interested in Space, none in WIRED - 06Something Different - Space Photos of the Week from Wired - 537 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:15:27] <exec> 08└─Aristarchus [wikipedia.org] is right, and please use the link provided through the archive to link to a specific image that might blow people's minds like this [nasa.gov] instead of to their front page which changes. Around here everybody else is on vacation but I still have 109 unread items in my S...
[06:15:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:2) 02Re:Disgusting. - 06Deep-Sea Mining Looms on Horizon as UN Body Issues Contracts - 601 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:15:53] <exec> 08└─We've been mining only a very small fraction of the seabed along the coast and I haven't noticed anybody suffering because we haven't gone into international waters. In general, we have plenty of resources for what people actually need. We just don't have enough resources for people to be driving hu...
[06:18:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03bugamn [1017] (Score:2) 02Re:Kuro5hin - 06Kuro5hin is Dying - 391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:18:36] <exec> 08└─Have you tried NoScript or Flashblock? To be honest I didn't even know those videos autoplay. I know this solution might be a little overkill, but after some configuration I find that I barely notice they are there. I use now only NoScript as it is enough for me, and I don't enable the videos on Sla...
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[06:19:02] <exec> 08└─We don't all know everything.
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[07:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02BitCoin is not really necessary - 06Criminals Say Nothing Beats Bitcoin for Ransom Payments - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:20] <exec> 08└─HOWTO Launder Money on the Internet [warplife.com] No mention of BitCoin.
[07:13:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score:2) 02Yup - 06Criminals Say Nothing Beats Bitcoin for Ransom Payments - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:21] <exec> 08└─Seen bitcoin demands often in ransomware like cryptolocker. This is not news. Bitcoin seems to have some ethical issues that will be very hard to work out. It makes extortion from a long distance possible and hard to trace.
[07:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 625 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:13:37] <exec> 08└─You get points. I should have mentioned in my own post that childbearing was in and of itself a major contributor to the death rate of women. And, any research into mortality that neglects death by violent means can safely be ignored. That one specific research paper was apparently aimed at some nic...
[07:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03hankwang [100] (Score:2) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 874 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:13:41] <exec> 08└─"Human trafficking exists BECAUSE prostitution is banned. If prostitution were 100% legal and open, then the pimp(s) would have one hell of a hard time trapping girls into these "relationships"." Here in the Netherlands, prostitution is actually legal. Trafficking is still a big problem. Insecure yo...
[07:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:13:43] <exec> 08└─Interesting . . . I wouldn't expect that. Yeah, I expect opportunists to look for such opportunities, but I would never have thought of it.
[07:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:13:46] <exec> 08└─> Is anyone trafficking secretarial services? Probably not, but labor trafficking is a big problem. Here's one high-level article about it, [cnn.com] there are tons more out there. [google.com] Its just that sex traffickers get lots of press because it's sex. We like to pretend that slavery doesn't...
[07:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 603 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:13:48] <exec> 08└─Labor traficking is another black-market like issue. I'm not for open borders, so don't misunderstand, but the reason this is possible is because there are people who want to come to the US but can't legally. This artificial restriction causes them to seek other methods of entry, which puts them in...
[07:14:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:14:06] <exec> 08└─> The only place I've ever heard people chanting "USA USA" is on Youtube. It is everywhere. Sporting events, political rallies, political protests, when bin laden was killed, 4th of july, etc. The fact that you see it on youtube is proof of that, not counter-proof. When I do a search for "usa chant"...
[07:14:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Queue the Anti-Backpage Crowd - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 936 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:14:22] <exec> 08└─If it was legal, there would probably be wider acceptance. Sure, you'd have some moralists, but they'll frown on beer too so fuck 'em. There's a thing out there called marriage, which is kind of like the lottery. You could end up with someone great, or you could end up with a total leach. I ended up...
[07:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Queue the Anti-Backpage Crowd - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 538 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:14:24] <exec> 08└─> If it was legal, there would probably be wider acceptance. Sure, you'd have some moralists, but they'll frown on beer too so fuck 'em. Lol, shows how much you know about women. It isn't about morality, its about it being gross. > From an old fart to you young ones: marriage is not about love. It i...
[07:14:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03ticho [89] (Score:2) 02Re:Computing alive and well in Iran - 06An Iranian Cloud Architect on the Lifting of Sanctions - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:14:40] <exec> 08└─Not the fact, just its inflammatory delivery.
[07:14:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:3, Informative) 02An unforgiveable exploit - 06The OpenSSH/PAM Bug - 1223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:14:51] <exec> 08└─I verified that my FreeBSD boxes were susceptible to this unforgiveable exploit, while nothing else I have is (CentOS, Ubuntu, Arch, etc). Forget the finger-pointing between sshd and PAM. It's a system config issue. The secret is in sshd_config. None of the others came with ChallengeResponseAuthenti...
[07:15:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:As smart as a dog - 06Robotics and the Law: When Software Can Harm You - 550 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:15:20] <exec> 08└─I would expect that we will treat sentient AI like slaves, perhaps for hundreds of years. There may even be an AI suffrage movement. Anyway, as long as we treat them as slaves, then owner liability follows logically. As for reproduction, if an entity is truly intelligent, it will resent slavery and...
[07:16:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:2) 02A wonderful initiative - 06HardenedBSD Completes Strong ASLR Implementation - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:16:33] <exec> 08└─Everyone who wants FreeBSD to enhance their security should favor this initiative. I sent a few dollars. It's easy to contribute.
[07:16:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02The wrong fix - 06HardenedBSD Completes Strong ASLR Implementation - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:16:34] <exec> 08└─If your system is more secure with ASLR, then it's not secure. More effort should be put into fixing the actual bugs, rather than just making them harder to exploit.
[07:20:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03ese002 [5306] (Score:1) 02Re:Amiga owners - 06The Amiga Turns 30—"Nobody Had Ever Designed a Personal Computer This Way' - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:20:05] <exec> 08└─Really a shame, too... Their IIgs could have posed a very serious challenge to the Amiga and IBM-PC computers if they'd given it the support it deserved/needed.
[07:21:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Turns out it's already dead. - 06The Battle For Wesnoth is Looking For Help - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:21:09] <exec> 08└─I only have a small Windows installation in a VirtualBox and Wesnoth is in all major repositories. Sometimes I'm not sure this is such a save approach, though. It's tempting to add obscure repos for some nice features, and with that the trustworthiness is also only relative.
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[08:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02In other news... - 06Criminals Say Nothing Beats Bitcoin for Ransom Payments - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:13:27] <exec> 08└─Water is wet. Film at 11.
[08:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 476 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:47] <exec> 08└─> Interesting . . . I wouldn't expect that. Frankly your demonstrated understanding of human psychology is very poor in general. I used to be like you when I was a teenager and then I started to wonder why the fuck I was so frequently wrong about people. It was a real blow to the ego to realize peo...
[08:13:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 3680 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:54] <exec> 08└─"tools specifically created for murder".....tell me AC, how EXACTLY is a 120 pound woman supposed to defend herself against a guy that benches 220 and is a good 100 pounds heavier and bigger than she? Is she supposed to beg nicely after he's done raping her and maybe, juuust maybe, he might not do w...
[08:14:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:01] <exec> 08└─You have not shown any such thing. He does not believe you, I don't believe you, and looking at the rest of the responses, no one else believes you. You have taken arguments that are qualitative and have treated them qualitatively without actually refuting them in either form partially or as a whole...
[08:14:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:03] <exec> 08└─It doesn't happen. Go ahead and try to find stats on it. There aren't any because your scenario has yet to exist.
[08:14:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:07] <exec> 08└─It is a one step method to turn any glossy magazine into a lethal weapon. The only thing stopping people from doing it more is ignorance. Would you like to bad literacy too? After all, words like "declaration of war" have killed orders of magnitude more people with less effort than any other weapon...
[08:14:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:11] <exec> 08└─Planning to commit murder is a crime and it is more serious than obtaining a gun illegally.
[08:14:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:18] <exec> 08└─Search Germans are Nazis. You will get more hits. Search English war crimes. Same result. Search 911 was an inside job. See the pattern? Now please stop making a fool of yourself. Obviously you lack higher education and know nothing of Americans but choose to be bigoted about your views anyway.
[08:14:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:20] <exec> 08└─Again calling it the USA. It is the US. I live here. I was born here. Don't even pretend to understand our culture more than us. Clearly I hit a sore spot with the comment on the UK. It was your nation that started the slave trade. It was your nation that caused genocide. It is your nation that has...
[08:14:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 911 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:27] <exec> 08└─Uhhh you DO know those gun laws was SPECIFICALLY written to keep blacks down, yes? That making felons unable to vote or own weapons helped in this goal, yes? Might want to look up the documentary "fear of an armed negro" and see for yourself, in fact this is why gun laws exploded right after the civ...
[08:14:51] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03fnj [1654] 02An unforgiveable exploit - 06The OpenSSH/PAM Bug - 1223 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:14:51] <exec> 08└─I verified that my FreeBSD boxes were susceptible to this unforgiveable exploit, while nothing else I have is (CentOS, Ubuntu, Arch, etc). Forget the finger-pointing between sshd and PAM. It's a system config issue. The secret is in sshd_config. None of the others came with ChallengeResponseAuthenti...
[08:15:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03hemocyanin [186] 02Re:As smart as a dog - 06Robotics and the Law: When Software Can Harm You - 1085 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:15:16] <exec> 08└─Those disclaimers may well be invalid already. Nobody is going to let Toyota off the hook if its software embodied with a 4000 pound dangerous weapon suddenly accelerates because of some EULA. There are certain things it is impossible to do in a contract. If you sign a contract giving me permission...
[08:16:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] 02Re:xkcd - 06The Geometry of String Theory Compactifications (I): the Basics - 4064 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:16:01] <exec> 08└─I'll give it a shot. Okay, so classical physics takes place in Euclidean space. It has up/down, left/right, and forward/backwards. Special relativity takes place in Minkovsky space. It has up/down, left/right, and forwards/backwards plus earlier/later. The notion of distance in Minkovsky space is fi...
[08:16:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03wirelessduck [3407] (Score:1) 02Re:xkcd - 06The Geometry of String Theory Compactifications (I): the Basics - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:16:03] <exec> 08└─And this is why I come to lurk on SoylentNews. Thanks for the enlightenment!
[08:17:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What's the issue here? - 06HP Enforcing Dress Code for R&D Employees - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:17:02] <exec> 08└─The customer pays your bills. Whoever pays your bills, when they say 'jump', you ask 'how high?'...
[08:18:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03srobert [4803] 02It's About the Advertising $ - 06MSNBC Cans the Only Cable TV Host Who Extensively Covered TPP - 1054 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:18:43] <exec> 08└─MSNBC is in the same business as Fox News. Selling ads. The largest portion of the ad revenue comes from business interests, who may behave unethically with respect to labor, consumers, or the environment. So from now on being "liberal" at MSNBC will consist of talking about police brutality, racism...
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[09:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I have some arguments for jailbreaking smartphones - 06What Do We Want From the Next Librarian of Congress? - 1558 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:13:52] <exec> 08└─If I understand correctly, jailbreaking was legal, then it was not. I don't know whether it is legal right now but I do know that a certain phone store that advertising jailbreaking would no longer permit the word "jailbreak" to be spoken on the premises. A good reason for jailbreaking is that it en...
[09:13:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02My sister, Bonnie Jean Crawford-Evans - 06What Do We Want From the Next Librarian of Congress? - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:13:53] <exec> 08└─Jeannie has been a librarian since 1980; presently she runs the interlibrary loan department at the University of Idaho library. When she was a kid she spent all her time at libraries. She has a Bachelor's degree in forestry and is working part-time towards an Anthropology degree. Our mother was a l...
[09:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Why I want my money hard to trace - 06Criminals Say Nothing Beats Bitcoin for Ransom Payments - 2293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:14:04] <exec> 08└─I don't object to paying taxes. I don't have any ill-gotten gains. But one of the symptoms of my Schizoaffective Disorder is paranoia; at times that paranoia is quite severe. It could well lead to my murdering a completely innocent person because I felt the need to defend myself from them. One way t...
[09:14:20] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03hemocyanin [186] 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 1460 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:14:21] <exec> 08└─What I've "heard" but can't recall the reference, is that the poor life expectancy back in the day was heavily skewed by infant mortality, and that once past toddlerhood or some other young age, most people could expect to live to 50 or 60. OK, so searching leads me here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
[09:14:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheLink [332] (Score:2) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:14:23] <exec> 08└─All that shit in the bible (a worse guide for morality is hardly imaginable) was from a time when for the most part, women didn't get to make those choices.
[09:14:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03hankwang [100] 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 874 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:14:27] <exec> 08└─"Human trafficking exists BECAUSE prostitution is banned. If prostitution were 100% legal and open, then the pimp(s) would have one hell of a hard time trapping girls into these "relationships"." Here in the Netherlands, prostitution is actually legal. Trafficking is still a big problem. Insecure yo...
[09:14:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:14:31] <exec> 08└─"It was a real blow to the ego to realize people who did things I didn't understand were not actually stupid" I don't smoke, drink, or dfo drugs. I don't understand and have never understood why anyone would do anything both so costly and self destructive. Please explain.
[09:15:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Persia is an ancient culture - 06An Iranian Cloud Architect on the Lifting of Sanctions - 1064 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:15:27] <exec> 08└─It had advanced civilization when the Europeans were living in caves. I have always been skeptical of economic embargoes. Consider Iraq: the people still had plenty of food because they grew it themselves. What they lacked was imported food but Iraqi food is quite tasty. Any nation with any signific...
[09:15:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondrake [2658] (Score:2) 02Re:Interesting - 06Game Over for Epic 15-Year-Long Console Ban, Says China - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:15:51] <exec> 08└─I think it is most interesting because when I lived in Shanghai there were consoles for sale literally everywhere, with soldered in modchips and a box of games to boot.... It might be they are now actually going to crack down on that, which would be unfortunate for many people...
[09:17:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03kramulous [255] (Score:1) 02Re:What's the issue here? - 06HP Enforcing Dress Code for R&D Employees - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:17:54] <exec> 08└─I think I actually prefer the walk to go and get coffee. It is a nice time to get the blood pumping a little more while wrangling with a problem. I find that when I get back, I'm back into the code and notice a couple of hours later that my coffee is cold. Which is a nice bonus. Just not a fan of lu...
[09:18:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:What's the issue here? - 06HP Enforcing Dress Code for R&D Employees - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:18:00] <exec> 08└─> naked employees Already happened. There was a controversial magazine in the 70s whose editors used to work in the nude. I forget its name now, but it's featured, in all its fleshy glory, in part 3 of the BBC's /Rude Britannia/ documentary.
[09:18:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Self-realization as a career goal - 06Self-Hating Software Professionals? - 602 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:18:43] <exec> 08└─Yes, taught the start of statistics... and given a hint of what can be done with it. Hopefully, the teachers ignited a spark of curiosity in the student. That is really all they can hope to do. Force feeding a student is only going to foment resentment and hatred. Without a computer, a student can...
[09:20:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Incoherence - 06Kuro5hin is Dying - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:20:10] <exec> 08└─I'd love it if SN had a real killfile feature. There are some people I've added to my foes list because I don't want to see most of their posts
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[10:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What we really need... - 06What Do We Want From the Next Librarian of Congress? - 503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:14:23] <exec> 08└─...is more libertarians of Congress! ...and no i don't mean the sort that the media, or left, or right portrays. I mean ones that will make a real stand against the 'Washington Machine' for regular Americans that don't give a shit about politics. Libertarianism isn't about left or right, which is wh...
[10:14:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02What I Want From Libraries - 06What Do We Want From the Next Librarian of Congress? - 804 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:14:24] <exec> 08└─I post this here as I expect many librarians will read this submission. Music. The main reason I hang out in cafes rather than libraries is that cafes have music, often quite interesting music. While I do understand many spend time at the library so they can enjoy its quiet, dead silence drives me t...
[10:14:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What I Want From Libraries - 06What Do We Want From the Next Librarian of Congress? - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:14:26] <exec> 08└─Michael David Brotha! I got a solution! Go to your local library with your ghettoblaster laptop and crank up the fucking volume! Make everyone listen to your music! Theres a shitton of music for free on the nternet these days! Play that fucking shit in a public place! The public will thank you! For...
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[10:14:39] <exec> 08└─> BitCoin means to me that I might have some hope of having a normal financial life. Something other than stuffing cash in my mattress. It is not a big difference. You will have to stuff data (representing cash) in your hard drive instead. My personal feeling is that my materss it is far safer place...
[10:15:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:15:06] <exec> 08└─They do it because it feels good. Pretty simple no?
[10:15:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03hemocyanin [186] 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 72 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:15:07] <exec> 08└─Prostitution itself is banned in large part due to human trafficking ...
[10:16:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03patella.whack [3848] (Score:1) 02Re:As smart as a dog - 06Robotics and the Law: When Software Can Harm You - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:16:45] <exec> 08└─I agree that AI will be our slaves. But I don't think they will be independent enough of thought to conceive of a rebellion. We won't make them that way. We will hamstring them to be lesser, since we are too scared.
[10:19:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03goose [3266] (Score:1) 02Re:Been there done that - 06Self-Hating Software Professionals? - 533 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:19:27] <exec> 08└─> So my solution to burnout: switch it up, don't use the tried and true path. Learn something new by doing the same projects with different tools. You will be a better coder for it. Or, do what I do - every few years I design and implement a programming language. Tons of fun, and you learn much more...
[10:19:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self-realization as a career goal - 06Self-Hating Software Professionals? - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:19:37] <exec> 08└─Yeah somehow reminds me of the other story about the internet escort. Not like hookers do their jobs because its enjoyable. I'm sure they enjoy some clients, but most of it probably sucks. Some people think hookers jobs are easy but such jobs are dangerous. Do your job. Make money. Use money to let...
[10:20:03] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Farkus888 [5159] 02Facebook depression - 06Self-Hating Software Professionals? - 637 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:20:04] <exec> 08└─This is the same form of problem as Facebook causing depression. People post more of when they have fun, their trips or parties. In aggregate it looks like everyone is partying all the time when you are busy working. In reality most of those people have a relatively similar ratio of fun to chores as...
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[11:14:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02What's an online account? - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:14:18] <exec> 08└─Seriously. Fuck all you sheep with accounts on Soylent. Ba baa baaaa. You. Fuckers.
[11:14:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:What's an online account? - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:19] <exec> 08└─Fuck all you sheep
[11:14:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score:2) 02Re:What's an online account? - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 393 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:21] <exec> 08└─Wow, a troll-ish comment that is on-topic. That makes me very ambivalent what to do next... Well, for the knowledgeable, there is a fine line when to be anonymous and when not. To know when to do what is the very trick into fooling the surveillance. Maybe we should start pooling our mobile phones. T...
[11:14:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:What's an online account? - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:23] <exec> 08└─So - you're from the US midwest, or the Mediterranean Sea area. There are few other people in the world who want to fuck sheep. Is that you, Bubba Lane?
[11:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Informative) 02Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 1140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:14:24] <exec> 08└─"released about 5,740 mink from farms and vandalized the homes and businesses of industry members," That is indeed criminal activity, not terrorism. They can be brought up on a lot of charges, including conspiracy, and cruelty to animals. What? Oh, you ask "Cruelty to animals?" Yep, that's right. Re...
[11:14:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:26] <exec> 08└─Their ideals make them better than other people, so they don't need to be concerned about mere laws
[11:14:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:27] <exec> 08└─Yes because all laws are always more important than ethics. It doesn't ever matter how much of a vindictive, destructive asshole you be, just as long as you obey the law, right?
[11:14:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:29] <exec> 08└─laws can be wrong. it is your right to raise animals for their fur, and it is also their right to do all they can to stop you. and it is anyone else's right to be saddened by your catching of the "hoodlums". or would you like a law forbidding people from wanting to change what they see as unjust law...
[11:14:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02WRITE-IN OBAMA 2016 - 06What Do We Want From the Next Librarian of Congress? - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:40] <exec> 08└─Fuck term limits! If 100% of voters write-in OBAMA he can't fucking lose! WRITE-IN OBAMA
[11:14:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What I Want From Libraries - 06What Do We Want From the Next Librarian of Congress? - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:42] <exec> 08└─http://www.yourepeat.com/watch/?v=8PaoLy7PHwk [yourepeat.com]
[11:14:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:3, Funny) 02Ook - 06What Do We Want From the Next Librarian of Congress? - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:14:44] <exec> 08└─Ook.
[11:14:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Archive everything - 06What Do We Want From the Next Librarian of Congress? - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:14:45] <exec> 08└─Here's my dream: everything that is registered for copyright must have a suitable copy, preferably digital, archived in the Library of Congress. This ensures that nothing is lost to the sands of time. Even in the digital age, stuff just up and disappears all the time.
[11:14:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Archive everything - 06What Do We Want From the Next Librarian of Congress? - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:47] <exec> 08└─Here's my dream: everyone should go to libraries and fuck all the librarians up the ass!
[11:15:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02A Good Thing - 06Criminals Say Nothing Beats Bitcoin for Ransom Payments - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:15:00] <exec> 08└─Sounds like a good thing to me. If the criminals were vulnerable, so too would be any political opponents or undesirables (such as Snowden).
[11:15:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Bitcoin's underbelly - 06Criminals Say Nothing Beats Bitcoin for Ransom Payments - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:15:02] <exec> 08└─And criminals love cars because they go fast, and food because it tastes nummy. These articles that implicitly blame the tool for human actions are, well, written by tools.
[11:15:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:15:28] <exec> 08└─Here in the Netherlands, prostitution is actually legal. Trafficking is still a big problem. Insecure young women, sometimes even minors, get trapped into those "relationships" nevertheless.
[11:16:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 611 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:16:08] <exec> 08└─>There are statistics that show up over and over again that you are much more likely to get shot if you own a gun, than if you don't. That's an utterly pointless statistic. People who own cars are more likely to die in a car accident than people who don't. People who live in areas with more cars are...
[11:17:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Old, old, OLD news! - 06Low Cost Weather Satellite Image Receiver - 1353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:17:23] <exec> 08└─This is referencing the RTL-SDR software drivers and various software-defined radio software suites that can use it. There are a lot, and this has been going on for several years now, ever since it was discovered a certain Realtek DVB receiver chip (RTL-2832U) can be put into a mode to make a genera...
[11:17:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oh sure? - 06The Geometry of String Theory Compactifications (I): the Basics - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:17:50] <exec> 08└─Super Nintendo Chalmers. I'm learneding!
[11:18:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:A wonderful initiative - 06HardenedBSD Completes Strong ASLR Implementation - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:18:31] <exec> 08└─If you want your money to go towards projects that actually improve security, please consider sending it to the FreeBSD Foundation instead.
[11:20:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Sounds Like Poor Choices To Me - 06Self-Hating Software Professionals? - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:20:11] <exec> 08└─This "Web developers are not real programmers" and "they don't understand just how easy their 'jobs' are" sounds a lot like sour grapes to me.
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[12:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02wondered how long it would take - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:26] <exec> 08└─i been using https://law.resource.org [resource.org] for a while. has a few astm's which are handy for things like pressure vessel design
[12:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 605 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:42] <exec> 08└─Ethics? I think that I addressed ethics above. They disagree with you, so they have some magical right to come into your home, and destroy it? WTF kind of "ethics" is that? Vandalism, destruction of property, is a CRIME, and I don't give a FUCK what your "ethics" are. This is the sort of attitude th...
[12:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Insightful) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:44] <exec> 08└─It can be more unethical to allow the activities that take place on your property to continue taking place. There is no longer any reason to skin animals. There are perfectly good artificial replacements. Vandalism, destruction of property, is a CRIME, and I don't give a FUCK what your "ethics" are...
[12:13:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03schad [2398] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:45] <exec> 08└─It doesn't ever matter how much of a vindictive, destructive asshole you be, just as long as you obey the law, right?
[12:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:47] <exec> 08└─If the response is that they're trying to intimidate people into not working in this industry, then guess what -- the label of "terrorist" is actually appropriate.
[12:13:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 1015 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:48] <exec> 08└─"their right to do all they can to stop you." THAT is precisely where you are wrong. They can write their representatives. They can organize petitions. They can organize boycotts. They can organize non-destructive, peaceful demonstrations. They can write editorials. They can maintain a blog. They ca...
[12:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 1046 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:50] <exec> 08└─If it's mink, then the cruelty will likely be to other animals. They may not have had the practice, but they are fast and strong, lots of unsuspecting smaller critters will suffer as these mink cut their teeth. Of course, the solution to that is often an organised cull, so the mink will suffer in th...
[12:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:52] <exec> 08└─"released about 5,740 mink from farms and vandalized the homes and businesses of industry members," That is indeed criminal activity, not terrorism.
[12:13:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Before you know it, going 10 over on the freeway.. - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:54] <exec> 08└─I was on the freeway in San Diego going about 70mph in a 65mph limit. I see 3 cars coming up fast in my rearview mirror going at least 90mph. As they pass me, they were about 5 feet from each others bumper, all towel heads, laughing about it. Where's a cop when you need one?
[12:14:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:52] <exec> 08└─Seriously, our laws create half our problems.
[12:15:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 997 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:02] <exec> 08└─Which anti-depressant or similar medication was he on? This is a pretty standard question for mass shootings, they're almost universally on one or the other. Its not unheard of to have a non-medicated mass shooter, but its more of a once in a decade thing than a once a month thing like medicated sho...
[12:15:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:An unforgiveable exploit - 06The OpenSSH/PAM Bug - 521 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:56] <exec> 08└─The unforgiveability of this is that of trusting input from an external source. Never trust any input; for openssh to have forgotten that is astounding, and amateurish. The mark-as-already-seen fix (apart from the fact that it should probably have used 1u<<i rather than 1<<i in order to access bits...
[12:16:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:As smart as a dog - 06Robotics and the Law: When Software Can Harm You - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:16:28] <exec> 08└─> you release a dangerous thing on the world, you're liable for the damage it does MS would be bankrupt many times over if it had taken fiscal responsibility for all the woes its infliced upon the earth with its Windows, IE, and IIS.
[12:16:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:linux conversion? - 06Low Cost Weather Satellite Image Receiver - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:16:41] <exec> 08└─ah thank you. Very nice little project, that might have some practical uses not thought of yet!
[12:17:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score:2) 02I beg to differ. - 06The Geometry of String Theory Compactifications (I): the Basics - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:17:12] <exec> 08└─"The natural world (e.g. Trees, animals etc.. ) is non-Euclidean." Physical structures and shapes in the natural world, narrowly defined as stuff on this planet, can be quite complex and irregular taken as a whole. However, they can all have their component structures' shapes described perfectly wel...
[12:17:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:I beg to differ. - 06The Geometry of String Theory Compactifications (I): the Basics - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:17:13] <exec> 08└─I suggest reading about fractal geometry and the mathematics of non-Euclidean space - it is truly surprising how little of the natural world is compactly described by Euclidean geometry. I suppose the contrast might be illiustrated as that between a vector drawing and a raster image... one is an arb...
[12:17:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02USA is just pissy... - 06Deep-Sea Mining Looms on Horizon as UN Body Issues Contracts - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:17:40] <exec> 08└─...cos it doesn't have the UN over a barrel, and doesn't have enough money to out-bid China.
[12:17:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:The wrong fix - 06HardenedBSD Completes Strong ASLR Implementation - 1386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:17:51] <exec> 08└─I disagree. The difference between a bug and a vulnerability is often the intelligence of the attacker and it only takes one exploitable bug to compromise the program. If you want to make your programs bug free, then you're going to have to spend a lot more on them. The seL4 team currently has the l...
[12:17:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:The wrong fix - 06HardenedBSD Completes Strong ASLR Implementation - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:17:52] <exec> 08└─We'll have to agree to disagree, then. If someone ROPs your ASLR code, then rather than getting predictable exploitation, you get unpredictable god-knows-what, and you have lost. OK, they may not have won, but you have still lost.
[12:19:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Self-realization as a career goal - 06Self-Hating Software Professionals? - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:19:19] <exec> 08└─Start adding lambdas and stuff in to your method calls and algorithms.
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[13:13:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03WizardFusion [498] (Score:2) 02Re:Even worse... - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:21] <exec> 08└─Your post is an act of terrorism because you pointed out all the other acts of terrorism that was committed. On a serious note, what the fuck is going on with america and it's hard-on for using this word for everything.
[13:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Even worse... - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:23] <exec> 08└─As much as these comments are funny, the scary part is that with all this crying "terrorist", eventually (if not already) everyone is going to become desensitized to the point where real threats of terrorism are going to be waved off as hyperbole.
[13:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Even worse... - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:24] <exec> 08└─On a serious note, what the fuck is going on with america and it's hard-on for using this word for everything.
[13:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02How about all fifty states? - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 1165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:26] <exec> 08└─I don't believe (could be wrong) that any of the states publishes it's legal code for individuals to peruse. You can't go to the public library, and check a half dozen books. You can't go online to see specific codes related to traffic law, building codes, or much of anything else. All of this stuff...
[13:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Re:How about all fifty states? - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:28] <exec> 08└─I would have thought that preventing individuals from perusing the legal code under which they live could be considered an impediment to a huge variety of legal proceedings. Taking this situation and using it as a revenue source does nothing but reinforce the principle that the justice system is onl...
[13:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:How about all fifty states? - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:29] <exec> 08└─I know for a fact that the UN-annotated version is available online for most (all?)states; local law is also available easily in most cases. Apparently it is this annotated one that's the problem, similar to fancy bibles that have all kinds of annotations having a copyright and having to pay a subst...
[13:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03acp_sn [5254] (Score:1) 02Re:How about all fifty states? - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:31] <exec> 08└─I'm surprised he didn't write you the ticket anyway because what the fuck are you going to to about it?
[13:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score:1) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 673 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:46] <exec> 08└─There is no longer any reason to skin animals. There are perfectly good artificial replacements. That is not completely true - for most purposes I would agree with you, but there is still no substitute for fur in extreme cold weather conditions. The number of people who need this is very small compa...
[13:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:47] <exec> 08└─...is a CRIME, and I don't give a FUCK what your "ethics" are. This is the sort of attitude that helps to brand PETA and animal rights activists as low-life scumsuckers.
[13:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:52] <exec> 08└─Someone may still shoot them. Ranchers and farmers have cars, and they can read maps. Someone may just take a trip out to Gay Bay, and blow both their dumb asses into eternity. And, the world will lose two more lowlifes.
[13:13:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:53] <exec> 08└─"Someone may still shoot them." is a vastly different statement than "Someone should still shoot them" or "I hope someone shoots them" or "I think that I'll just ride out to Gay Bay and shoot them myself". The intent of my post, was to point out that people have been killed for less, and it's not ou...
[13:13:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:56] <exec> 08└─If it's mink, then the cruelty will likely be to other animals. They may not have had the practice, but they are fast and strong, lots of unsuspecting smaller critters will suffer as these mink cut their teeth. Of course, the solution to that is often an organised cull, so the mink will suffer in th...
[13:13:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 1260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:58] <exec> 08└─Terrorism consists of random acts of violence, with the goal of intimidating a population and/or a political process. Criminal acts consists of targeted violence, usually but not necessarily with the goal of financial gain. If these clowns had targeted post offices, school buildings, shopping center...
[13:13:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:00] <exec> 08└─That might be because the word "terrorism" is so ridiculously broad that it's almost useless. Why bother?
[13:14:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:01] <exec> 08└─This is sending the message "we know where you live and we will use violence".
[13:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 1542 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:03] <exec> 08└─Dude, you really need to live under a terrorist threat some time, it's obvious you have no understanding at all. But hey, considering how diluted the definition of the word terrorism has become in the last 15-20 years, I can't say I'm surprised this is the sort of thing people are saying. The terror...
[13:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:05] <exec> 08└─Destruction of personal, private property is deemed a crime in all societies with which I am familiar. So is theft, murder, and rape. Different societies tend to define these crimes somewhat differently, but they all agree that the acts are criminal. There are few circumstances in which any of these...
[13:14:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:07] <exec> 08└─Destruction of personal, private property is deemed a crime in all societies with which I am familiar.
[13:14:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 738 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:09] <exec> 08└─In general I agree with what you're saying here, with the possible exception of the comment about combat. I didn't have much of an issue with your anger at their vandalism or with those particular acts being illegal. My issue was with your stance on their releasing the mink and it seemed to me that...
[13:14:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score:2) 02I don't get it. - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 533 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:10] <exec> 08└─Ok, going out and clubbing cute baby seals is bad, I can see why people don't like that. Any wildlife trapping too. What I can't see is any ethical difference between raising animals for meat and raising animals for their skins. In both cases I would hope (and the law says) that they should be kille...
[13:14:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I don't get it. - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 497 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:12] <exec> 08└─The ethical difference is that lots of people would say we need meat. We have artificial replacements for fur now; we don't need to skin animals. It's almost like killing something purely for the fun of it; that's more unethical than doing it out of necessity. The only thing I wouldn't see as unethi...
[13:14:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What we really need... - 06What Do We Want From the Next Librarian of Congress? - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:19] <exec> 08└─What we really need is the librarian [wikipedia.org]. Vote Barbarella 2016.
[13:14:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02If I was an intelligence agency - 06Criminals Say Nothing Beats Bitcoin for Ransom Payments - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:41] <exec> 08└─I'd take a closer look at this Curt Wilson fellow, he seems awfully knowledgeable about the criminal underground... I related news, criminals use roads, so let's make those illegal... Only a tool will blame the tool.
[13:15:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:15:22] <exec> 08└─Good point. Very good point, VLM. Drugs, drugs, drugs - drugs are evil, unless a corporation stands to make a profit off of those drugs. The cops will shoot you in a dope deal gone bad, but they're happy to see you "medicated" with good corporate drugs.
[13:16:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02alternatives - 06The OpenSSH/PAM Bug - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:09] <exec> 08└─You can also try ip filtering and port knocking. Or rephrased its probably a good idea to use ssh as described in the article but its also a good idea to implement some ip filtering and maybe some port knocking.
[13:16:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03doublerot13 [4497] (Score:2) 02passwords are not OK anymore - 06The OpenSSH/PAM Bug - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:10] <exec> 08└─For anything as important as SSH access, especially for an external-facing machine, passwords are just not good enough anymore. Passphrase-protected key-based login is easy to implement and properly secure. For everything else there is client side certs.
[13:18:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:2) 02Re:A wonderful initiative - 06HardenedBSD Completes Strong ASLR Implementation - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:18:02] <exec> 08└─I already do - not instead, but too. HardenedBSD is "actually improving security". Why would I turn my nose up at them.
[13:18:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:The wrong fix - 06HardenedBSD Completes Strong ASLR Implementation - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:18:06] <exec> 08└─I'd take a containable application crash over an arbitrary code execution vulnerability any day. I'd rather not have either, but that isn't an option at a price that people are willing to pay (we'd happily ship you a formally verified version of FreeBSD, if you've got a couple of billion to spend -...
[13:20:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bill Dimm [940] (Score:2) 02Re:Kuro5hin - 06Kuro5hin is Dying - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:20:40] <exec> 08└─Thanks for the suggestion. I have not tried NoScript or Flashblock. I think website operators deserve to be compensated for their efforts. If they want too much (ads are too annoying) for their product, I would rather just not go there at all, much as I would not frequent a restaurant that charged a...
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[14:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Lasers make everything cooler - 06Cells with Frickin Laser Beams Attached to Their Heads?!? - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:19] <exec> 08└─Sure do! https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[14:13:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Even worse... - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:31] <exec> 08└─You do realize we have terrorist attacks on US soil practically every week and nobody so much as bats an eyelash...
[14:13:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Even worse... - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:32] <exec> 08└─That's only if you think that all of those attacks were acts of terrorism, which I don't believe. Not even close.
[14:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Even worse... - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:35] <exec> 08└─I don't care if the authorities overuse the word
[14:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:How about all fifty states? - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 638 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:40] <exec> 08└─A: Sometimes cops are honest people, who can make mistakes B: I was going to court, is WTF I was going to do about it. There are any number of videos on Youtube, in which citizens confront law enforcement officers. Sometimes, the cops are total jerks. Sometimes, the citizen is a total jerk. Often en...
[14:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How about all fifty states? - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:42] <exec> 08└─You must be white I'm guessing? NEVER argue with a cop. Never speak to a cop. Their job is to rack up potential charges to be used against you in court. PERIOD.
[14:13:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Don't forget New Zealanders - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:54] <exec> 08└─There are enough jokes and one-liners about New Zealanders and sheep to fill a book.
[14:13:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 1140 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:55] <exec> 08└─"released about 5,740 mink from farms and vandalized the homes and businesses of industry members," That is indeed criminal activity, not terrorism. They can be brought up on a lot of charges, including conspiracy, and cruelty to animals. What? Oh, you ask "Cruelty to animals?" Yep, that's right. Re...
[14:14:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03schad [2398] 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 117 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:02] <exec> 08└─It doesn't ever matter how much of a vindictive, destructive asshole you be, just as long as you obey the law, right?
[14:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Oakenshield [4900] (Score:1) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:05] <exec> 08└─Then the word "terrorist" is overbroad. It used to be we'd just call people criminals. Now everything is about the terrorist bogeyman, with extremely shallow justifications for why it's reasonable to use it all the time.
[14:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:14] <exec> 08└─Terrorism consists of random acts of violence
[14:14:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03PocketSizeSUn [5340] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:I don't get it. - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:25] <exec> 08└─Non-degradable plastic is not really a reasonable replacement for fur. Leather and fur are natural, long lasting, renewable and bio degradable. If you have a moral objection to fur and leather feel free to use alternatives, but please don't enforce your opinion on others. Thanks.
[14:14:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Obviously - 06What Do We Want From the Next Librarian of Congress? - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:43] <exec> 08└─Metric conversion table. First things first.
[14:14:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Bitcoin's underbelly - 06Criminals Say Nothing Beats Bitcoin for Ransom Payments - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:00] <exec> 08└─Bittorrent was the same way for a long long time. I think they finally gave up on it though. Tor seemed to have a period where using it was referred to as visiting the darknet.. as if it was somehow an evil internet and your wallet will be shanked if you click the wrong link. In my experience if mai...
[14:15:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 148 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:11] <exec> 08└─Oh, wait. In our screwed up society, a "sex worker" probably has an arrest record. No guns for her, right? Her life isn't valuable enough to defend.
[14:15:18] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 180 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:18] <exec> 08└─I realize that some folks seem to think that there should be no rules, but we live in a democratic society and ultimately, some behaviors are just not consistent with human rights.
[14:15:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:27] <exec> 08└─Frankly your demonstrated understanding of human psychology is very poor in general. I used to be like you when I was a teenager and then I started to wonder why the fuck I was so frequently wrong about people. It was a real blow to the ego to realize people who did things I didn't understand were n...
[14:15:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:29] <exec> 08└─No, human trafficking exists because there is money in it. If prostitution were 100% legal and and open, then the pimp(s) would start beating on the "free operators" and drive them out of their turf. Or into their stables, more likely. You can't wave a magical "freedom wand" and expect all will be b...
[14:15:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:32] <exec> 08└─receptionists are annoyingly immature, drama magnets, and typically unreliable for any extended duration
[14:15:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:36] <exec> 08└─In theory you can have legal prostitution but it always seems to devolve into a mess of human trafficking and abuse.
[14:15:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 838 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:39] <exec> 08└─I believe that the authorities have already admitted that they screwed the pooch with Houser. He wasn't permitted to have a weapon. HOWEVER - I think that Houser should have had access to weapons - but I also think that the theater goers should have had access to their own weapons. House stands up,...
[14:15:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:57] <exec> 08└─This. And as the other AC admitted, there's always murder at the end too.
[14:16:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Democracy - 06An Iranian Cloud Architect on the Lifting of Sanctions - 1003 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:16:19] <exec> 08└─"walked the walk" Uhhhh, no. And, an Iranian will be the first to set you straight on that. Operation Ajax was the definitive action. The Wikipedia has a pretty good article on Ajax. I'll take the liberty of summarizing: In 1954 Iran had a genuine democracy, legitimately elected by the people. That...
[14:16:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score:2) 02Re:An unforgiveable exploit - 06The OpenSSH/PAM Bug - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:16:32] <exec> 08└─Yep, I had it on my PC-BSD workstation, but not my Linux or AIX machines..
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[15:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Lasers make everything cooler - 06Cells with Frickin Laser Beams Attached to Their Heads?!? - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:20] <exec> 08└─Came here to post this exact link. Well done sir.
[15:13:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Targetting - 06Cells with Frickin Laser Beams Attached to Their Heads?!? - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:21] <exec> 08└─How do you target particular cells to laser up? You swallow that thing and it might tack on to any damn cell it encounter and likes.
[15:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Even worse... - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:36] <exec> 08└─My father was from Maine where they can't pronounce words with "r" (and they also add an "r" to words without one). I guess there won't be any "terrorists" in Maine, three r's in one word must be impossible.
[15:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How about all fifty states? - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:45] <exec> 08└─If the cop gives you a ticket simply because you were supposedly acting like a jerk, or is more likely to, then the cop is abusing his/her power and shouldn't be a cop.
[15:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How about all fifty states? - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:47] <exec> 08└─Welcome to the real world dude.
[15:13:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How about all fifty states? - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:48] <exec> 08└─Michigan publishes their law online. https://www.legislature.mi.gov(S(zhdjbah1k4swikoyo01gj2gk))/mileg.aspx?page=home [mi.gov]
[15:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How about all fifty states? - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 906 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:50] <exec> 08└─The laws in this case are available. It is the 'notes' that were not. What are the 'notes'? They are a set of court cases in which the particulars of the language are pulled apart and 'what does this exactly mean'. I used to work with DOT laws. Specifically hours of service. The law itself is maybe...
[15:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How about all fifty states? - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:52] <exec> 08└─> All of this stuff really should be made public - including those "annotated" versions. Malamud has been fighting that fight all over the US for over a decade now. He really is an unsung hero.
[15:13:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillAdams [1424] (Score:1) 02Re:How about all fifty states? - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 497 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:53] <exec> 08└─The article submission specifically mentions that that the Georgia statutes are available online: > At the center of the issue is not Georgia's basic legal code – that is made readily available online and off Since you'd rather pretend that it's not available, here: http://www.lexisnexis.com
[15:13:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:How about all fifty states? - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:55] <exec> 08└─I don't believe (could be wrong) that any of the states publishes it's legal code for individuals to peruse. You can't go to the public library, and check a half dozen books. You can't go online to see specific codes related to traffic law, building codes, or much of anything else.
[15:13:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03GlennC [3656] (Score:2) 02Re:How about all fifty states? - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:56] <exec> 08└─Five seconds with DuckDuckGo yielded the State of Ohio's Legal Code page at http://codes.ohio.gov [ohio.gov]
[15:13:57] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] 02Edicts of government are not copyright eligible - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 390 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:58] <exec> 08└─It's that simple. The US Copyright Office has this to say on the matter: Edicts of government, such as judicial opinions, administrative rulings, legislative enactments, public ordinances, and similar official legal documents are not copyrightable for reasons of public policy. This applies to such w...
[15:13:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03kadal [4731] (Score:2) 02Re:Edicts of government are not copyright eligible - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:00] <exec> 08└─That seal at the end of the document is hilarious!
[15:14:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03kadal [4731] (Score:2) 02Re:Edicts of government are not copyright eligible - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:01] <exec> 08└─Actually, it's also in the header of the first page.
[15:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Is work of the state copyrightable? - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 520 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:03] <exec> 08└─I was under the impression that the work of a state itself is automatically within the public domain. In the lawsuit, Georgia claims it had the work done as a work for hire. (Hence, I suppose, why LexisNexis isn't suing directly.) And, ironically, the state is now crying that if this is allowed to s...
[15:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02This is bullshit... but... - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 437 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:05] <exec> 08└─I can kind of see a complaint. If a 3rd party is publishing the laws, who is to say that they are keeping them up to date or not nefariously editing them. I think a better rule would be "anyone can publish the laws, but anyone that does so must keep them up to date and accurate, otherwise they must...
[15:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What's an online account? - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:14] <exec> 08└─They have sheep in the midwest? Thought it was miles and miles of cows? Or are you just making a crude joke?
[15:14:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 657 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:21] <exec> 08└─so says you, skinning animals crosses the line that shall not be crossed. One could say the same about food, there are synthetic and plant based alternatives their is no good reason to kill animals for food. But i do, i do kill animals for food, by proxy via purchase at the butcher shop, and directl...
[15:14:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:23] <exec> 08└─They disagree with you, so they have some magical right to come into your home, and destroy it?
[15:14:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03maliqua [5681] (Score:1) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:27] <exec> 08└─this is the one use of the word terrorist that was popular before everyone was a terrorist. eco terrorists have been around and deserving of the term since before i was born and i'm old
[15:14:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:32] <exec> 08└─he didn't wich death merely suggested the possibility is very real, and not entirely in the past. If it was my farm they attacked I would not only wish them death, i would regret not being their when they came to hand it to them personally
[15:14:34] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 148 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:35] <exec> 08└─"released about 5,740 mink from farms and vandalized the homes and businesses of industry members," That is indeed criminal activity, not terrorism.
[15:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 812 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:38] <exec> 08└─I think you'll agree that terrorists are rather partial to car bombs and suicide bombs. They like to set these bombs off in places like markets, where they kill anyone who happens to be standing around, or passing through. Often enough, these bombs are set off by Muslims, who simply don't care that...
[15:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 500 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:39] <exec> 08└─I think you'll agree that terrorists are rather partial to car bombs and suicide bombs. They like to set these bombs off in places like markets, where they kill anyone who happens to be standing around, or passing through. Often enough, these bombs are set off by Muslims, who simply don't care that...
[15:14:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Oakenshield [4900] (Score:1) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:41] <exec> 08└─Terrorism consists of random acts of violence, with the goal of intimidating a population and/or a political process.
[15:14:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:48] <exec> 08└─They are not terrorists, and they shouldn't be charged as such.
[15:14:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Before you know it, going 10 over on the freewa - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:50] <exec> 08└─I have never heard this term "towel head". Can you explain it to me please?
[15:14:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I don't get it. - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:54] <exec> 08└─I agree. They are all wrong. Hence, I am vegan.
[15:15:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Cost - 06What Do We Want From the Next Librarian of Congress? - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:12] <exec> 08└─You do realize that there is still a law on the books that requires that. If people did actually do that, do you think Congress would approve enough money to actually IMPLEMENT that? The Culpeper National Audio-Visual Conservation Center Library of Congress is already straining to support the shitst...
[15:15:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:56] <exec> 08└─I can't tell if you are Poe's Lawing or not. Life is not binary. Substance abuse is not the same as recreational use.
[15:15:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:58] <exec> 08└─I don't see that you are in a position by your own admission to make such a judgment or that such a judgment is warranted in this case. When someone puts up a legal/social framework or system, we don't automatically expect to understand all the ways it can possibly be gamed.
[15:16:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 3680 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:16:08] <exec> 08└─"tools specifically created for murder".....tell me AC, how EXACTLY is a 120 pound woman supposed to defend herself against a guy that benches 220 and is a good 100 pounds heavier and bigger than she? Is she supposed to beg nicely after he's done raping her and maybe, juuust maybe, he might not do w...
[15:17:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:New market? - 06Game Over for Epic 15-Year-Long Console Ban, Says China - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:17:22] <exec> 08└─I think this is whistling past the graveyard from the developed world press. China is using an approach which has worked for Japan, Taiwan, and South Korea. My take is that China will eventually succeed, then it'll be a market similar in size to the entire existing developed world. The current compl...
[15:18:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03BananaPhone [2488] (Score:2) 02Re:xkcd - 06The Geometry of String Theory Compactifications (I): the Basics - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:18:28] <exec> 08└─This is the type of explanation I was expecting for a "layman". The linked articles read like Coles notes for the post-grad math-major.
[15:18:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:deep sea drilling/mining is a bad idea - 06Deep-Sea Mining Looms on Horizon as UN Body Issues Contracts - 685 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:18:49] <exec> 08└─Upon reading the article closely, the mining on the abyssal plains, which are flat, is of little concern, its such a vast area that the environmental zone type is not highly dependant on a small locale, it would be hard to argue would be deeply concerning, though I would agree there is concern about...
[15:18:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03morgauxo [2082] (Score:2) 02Re:"We owe it to future generations" - 06Deep-Sea Mining Looms on Horizon as UN Body Issues Contracts - 564 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:18:54] <exec> 08└─Sure.. there isn't much there to hurt.. so long as the place isn't covered in that substance that tends to dissolve all the nasty heavy metals and chemicals that are either dug up or used in processing and spread the stuff around to the places that you don't want to damage. Hmm.. what was that subst...
[15:19:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score:2) 02SSHD - 06HardenedBSD Completes Strong ASLR Implementation - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:19:11] <exec> 08└─Does it fix FreeBSD's broken SSHD default settings? https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org]
[15:21:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Stop the opinions - 06MSNBC Cans the Only Cable TV Host Who Extensively Covered TPP - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:21:33] <exec> 08└─My impression is more "political hack" than "political analyst".
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[16:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02It's one of them quasiparticle things - 06Weyl Fermion: Faster Electronics, Cheaper Power? - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:19] <exec> 08└─I think this one of those quasiparticle things, not an actual (whatever that means) particle. in a test medium, Weyl electrons can carry charge at least 1,000 times faster than electrons in ordinary semiconductors, and twice as fast as inside wonder-material graphene.
[16:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03seeprime [5580] (Score:1) 02Re:It's one of them quasiparticle things - 06Weyl Fermion: Faster Electronics, Cheaper Power? - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:20] <exec> 08└─I would mod you up if I could. You are correct, if it was seen in a crystal and not moving, how can it carry a charge? Did I miss something?
[16:13:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:It's one of them quasiparticle things - 06Weyl Fermion: Faster Electronics, Cheaper Power? - 471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:22] <exec> 08└─Well, not even light moves at c unless you're in a vacuum. Presumably it has the concept of a (statistical) drift velocity in the same way that flowing electrons do. The last thing I remember that would make current flow less lossy was superconductors - but that was bosonic (from pairs of fermions)....
[16:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03zugedneb [4556] (Score:2) 02iCharge by Apple (TM) - 06Weyl Fermion: Faster Electronics, Cheaper Power? - 438 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:23] <exec> 08└─If you have shitty names to stuff to close to human nature, there will be highjack. I predict, until apple produces something with it, will retain the shitty name, and no one will care. When apple makes something with it, they will call it the new iCharge, and it will settle things in peoples minds....
[16:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Pepperidge Farm remembers electronics - 06Weyl Fermion: Faster Electronics, Cheaper Power? - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:25] <exec> 08└─Slap on a 1000x speedup on CPUs on top of a 32x or higher speedup from chip stacking (32 is the number of layers in current V-NAND), since these won't face the same heat problems. Another 4x or so to account for die shrinks. Suddenly you have chips that are 5+ orders of magnitude better. Are you rea...
[16:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Wikipedia leaves me a little confused... - 06Weyl Fermion: Faster Electronics, Cheaper Power? - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:27] <exec> 08└─"Fermions include all quarks and leptons, as well as any composite particle made of an odd number of these" "Dirac fermions can be treated as a combination of two Weyl fermions." So an even number of fermions can make a fermion, but it takes an odd number of fermions to make a fermion? Parity Error!
[16:13:52] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02How about all fifty states? - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 1165 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:52] <exec> 08└─I don't believe (could be wrong) that any of the states publishes it's legal code for individuals to peruse. You can't go to the public library, and check a half dozen books. You can't go online to see specific codes related to traffic law, building codes, or much of anything else. All of this stuff...
[16:13:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] 02Re:How about all fifty states? - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 325 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:53] <exec> 08└─I would have thought that preventing individuals from perusing the legal code under which they live could be considered an impediment to a huge variety of legal proceedings. Taking this situation and using it as a revenue source does nothing but reinforce the principle that the justice system is onl...
[16:13:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:How about all fifty states? - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 646 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:00] <exec> 08└─Near enough to "white" as to make no difference. So, obviously, I'm not black. I simply refuse to be intimidated by anyone, anywhere. I'm a citizen, a veteran, a voter, and a taxpayer. I have the RIGHT to speak my mind. No government official is going to silence me, short of killing me. For all of g...
[16:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How about all fifty states? - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:03] <exec> 08└─I live in the real world. You think I didn't notice that the problem exists?
[16:14:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:2) 02Re:How about all fifty states? - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 1389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:04] <exec> 08└─I'm sure that happens, but it's probably more common for people to talk the cop out of a warning and into a ticket by being rude. Cops have various motivations and while some of them are less than admirable, there isn't just one admirable motivation. Sometimes they just want to see that somebody res...
[16:14:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:How about all fifty states? - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:10] <exec> 08└─At the center of the issue is not Georgia's basic legal code – that is made readily available online and off – but the annotated version of it. That annotated version is frequently used by the courts to make decisions of law, and as such Malamud decided it should also be made easily accessible o...
[16:14:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:How about all fifty states? - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:12] <exec> 08└─At the center of the issue is not Georgia's basic legal code – that is made readily available online and off – but the annotated version of it. That annotated version is frequently used by the courts to make decisions of law, and as such Malamud decided it should also be made easily accessible o...
[16:14:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:This is bullshit... but... - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:18] <exec> 08└─That rule sounds like censorship to me. "Post what we say or we'll destroy you."
[16:14:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:This is bullshit... but... - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:19] <exec> 08└─I can kind of see a complaint. If a 3rd party is publishing the laws, who is to say that they are keeping them up to date or not nefariously editing them.
[16:14:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:This is bullshit... but... - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 753 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:21] <exec> 08└─Georgia alleges that Malamud is committing "standards terrorism" and that by posting the annotated laws online for free, he is trying to force Georgia to do the same. If Georgia wants to prevent 3rd parties from muddling the laws with outdated or edited versions, they can publish themselves. Resista...
[16:14:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:42] <exec> 08└─It can be more unethical to allow the activities that take place on your property to continue taking place. There is no longer any reason to skin animals. There are perfectly good artificial replacements.
[16:14:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 727 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:54] <exec> 08└─THAT is precisely where you are wrong. They can write their representatives. They can organize petitions. They can organize boycotts. They can organize non-destructive, peaceful demonstrations. ... No you can't. You can't film animal abuse. You can't go undercover to expose crimes against animals or...
[16:14:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 1041 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:55] <exec> 08└─Actually, yes you CAN go "undercover". I'm waiting for someone to take that bullshit to court. As a generality, I think animal rights activists are a little nuts. But - on the other hand, SOME farm workers are very much nuts. These laws were passed to protect those nutcases. I've lived in rural comm...
[16:15:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03maliqua [5681] (Score:1) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:03] <exec> 08└─because they chose to terrorise a minority population rather than a majority? It is the same they're using violence and intimidation to force their point of view on others
[16:15:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:06] <exec> 08└─I see. So - each and every victim was selected intentionally on 9/11/01. The definition is somewhat lacking, in that terroristic acts almost always result in random passersby being killed.
[16:15:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Oakenshield [4900] (Score:1) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:08] <exec> 08└─The primary targets in 9/11 were the World Trade Center and Pentagon and the symbols of American Status, Authority and Might, not particularly the inhabitants. This was the case as it was in the 1993 WTC bombing with a (presumably) entirely different set of inhabitants. I will leave finding the defi...
[16:15:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:10] <exec> 08└─I believe that's called collateral damage.
[16:15:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:12] <exec> 08└─This is sending the message "we know where you live and we will use violence". By any reasonable definition of the word, that is terrorism.
[16:15:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Before you know it, going 10 over on the freewa - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:20] <exec> 08└─Towel Head: A person of Middle Eastern ancestry, especially Arabian. Synonyms: Rag Head, Sand Nigger, Dune Coon
[16:16:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:2) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 930 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:28] <exec> 08└─That's always going to be a problem under a system like that. The Swedes came up with a system where it's legal to sell sex, but it's illegal to buy sex, traffic in sex workers or promote other's prostitution. It's a system that we've adopted lately. The prostitutes were never the problem, the rape,...
[16:16:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:48] <exec> 08└─Which anti-depressant or similar medication was he on? This is a pretty standard question for mass shootings, they're almost universally on one or the other.
[16:16:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score:2) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 772 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:57] <exec> 08└─My solution for reducing gun deaths is not popular with many - (1) Improve mental health services - 2/3rds of gun deaths are suicides, while over 90% of failed suicides are still alive 10 years later, so most of those ~20K gun suicide each year are mistakes. And then there is the fact that practica...
[16:17:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:17:08] <exec> 08└─> See the pattern? The only pattern I see is that none of your examples are recordings of those actual things happening. Don't confuse people talking about something on camera with people actually doing it on camera.
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[17:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Hole, hole everywhere a hole! - 06Crazy Chrysler Security Hole: USB Stick Fix Incoming for 1.4 Million Cars - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:20] <exec> 08└─...unfortunately, the update has to be manually installed via a USB stick plugged into the car.
[17:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Hole, hole everywhere a hole! - 06Crazy Chrysler Security Hole: USB Stick Fix Incoming for 1.4 Million Cars - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:21] <exec> 08└─Not many car owners spring for the backseat uranium centrifuge upgrade.
[17:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Yeah - 06Crazy Chrysler Security Hole: USB Stick Fix Incoming for 1.4 Million Cars - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:23] <exec> 08└─unfortunately, the update has to be manually installed via a USB stick plugged into the car.
[17:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02*Public* IP address? - 06Crazy Chrysler Security Hole: USB Stick Fix Incoming for 1.4 Million Cars - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:24] <exec> 08└─tampered with from miles away by anyone who knows the vehicle's public IP address.
[17:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Proprietary fuckhole - 06Crazy Chrysler Security Hole: USB Stick Fix Incoming for 1.4 Million Cars - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:26] <exec> 08└─The more computerized cars become, the more proprietary software, DRM, and privacy issues people will have to deal with. I don't trust the companies, and I don't trust the government to not abuse the situation. The only thing to do is to reject these shitty cars.
[17:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02By whom - 06Crazy Chrysler Security Hole: USB Stick Fix Incoming for 1.4 Million Cars - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:28] <exec> 08└─A car co. has/had the slogan, "we are driven". Perhaps they want to find another slogan now.
[17:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Forget uConnect Cell link, hack it over the radio - 06Crazy Chrysler Security Hole: USB Stick Fix Incoming for 1.4 Million Cars - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:29] <exec> 08└─This story [bbc.com] is even more interesting, it just doesn't have a cool live demonstration on video. They don't need a cellular/internet link, these guys figured out how to hack a car over digital radio.
[17:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's one of them quasiparticle things - 06Weyl Fermion: Faster Electronics, Cheaper Power? - 2183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:37] <exec> 08└─Because while it may be a quasiparticle it behaves exactly as would a "physical" particle. It's the same concept as a phonon, which is a quasiparticle of acoustic oscillation. It acts within the medium in very many ways as does a photon in vacuum (and given the situation acts *exactly* as does a pho...
[17:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03zugedneb [4556] (Score:2) 02Re:It's one of them quasiparticle things - 06Weyl Fermion: Faster Electronics, Cheaper Power? - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:40] <exec> 08└─Electrons actually move *slow* in material. It is the "potentials", the volt, that moves near light speed in a material. example: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] 1000 times faster than electron in a bulk material would mean something like 1m/s...
[17:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:It's one of them quasiparticle things - 06Weyl Fermion: Faster Electronics, Cheaper Power? - 2106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:42] <exec> 08└─Its a common misconception of the class of the intersection of a pair of scissors a lightyear long moving 3 inches moves along the scissors at 10000x the speed of light but the pieces of scissors only move slowly. The speed of an electrical field on or near a conductor is pretty darn fast fraction o...
[17:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcross [4009] (Score:2) 02Re:It's one of them quasiparticle things - 06Weyl Fermion: Faster Electronics, Cheaper Power? - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:44] <exec> 08└─I'm no physicist, but I think even light doesn't always move at the speed of light when it's passing through materials. I seem to recall this from the quantum explanations for refraction and colors caused by interference effects.
[17:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Pepperidge Farm remembers electronics - 06Weyl Fermion: Faster Electronics, Cheaper Power? - 1184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:45] <exec> 08└─Capacitive dielectric heating. In theory a superconducting vacuum capacitor dissipates no heat but real dielectrics like doped silicon transistors (or any form of matter, anything but a decent vacuum) will dissipate power in a capacitor. I'm assuming the gate and wiring will still have capacitance....
[17:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Post-Nihilist [5672] (Score:1) 02Re:Wikipedia leaves me a little confused... - 06Weyl Fermion: Faster Electronics, Cheaper Power? - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:47] <exec> 08└─Odd (quarks + leptons) - > fermions Even Dirac fermions->quasi Weyl fermions
[17:14:05] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03FatPhil [863] 02Even worse... - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 506 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:06] <exec> 08└─He committed traffic terrorism as he crossed the road to the courthouse while the pedestrian crossing light was still red. And to rub salt into the wound, he was committing culinary terrorism too, as he was eating an icecream with too much HFCS in its topping. And let's not mention the fashion terro...
[17:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcross [4009] (Score:2) 02Re:Even worse... - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:14:14] <exec> 08└─In addition to all the other reasons suggested here, adding the word "terrorism" can get the federal government involved in a case in a way that few other things can. Disclaimer: I know this from watching "The Wire", but my guess is that it was and is a fairly accurate portrayal of the federal gover...
[17:14:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02It's all about the $ - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 2216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:14:18] <exec> 08└─Abuse of law to extract revenue from the public is extremely common. Red light cameras, speed traps, parking meter enforcement, automobile inspection, lawn care and grass height enforcement, and permits and inspections to run a restaurant or rent out a house, or even just own a pet, are a few. We ne...
[17:14:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Refugee from beyond [2699] (Score:2) 02Re:How about all fifty states? - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:14:30] <exec> 08└─Is that kind of nuts? %)
[17:14:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Edicts of government are not copyright eligible - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 996 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:14:40] <exec> 08└─We can have an argument on whether there should be copyright at all, or how long it should last, but the annotations are copyrightable even if the source material is not. http://www.copyright.gov [copyright.gov] The issue here is with the annotations, not the edicts of gover...
[17:14:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:What's an online account? - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:14:56] <exec> 08└─Mmmm, its time to eat some bloody, juicy rare mutton-steaks tonight. But beef and bacon are delicious too, when they keep those animals packed head-to-ass all the way until their execution at the hands of a slash or a bolt to the brain. And those deaths aren't calm, either. Those bodies are twitchin...
[17:15:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Miles and miles of cows - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:01] <exec> 08└─They have sheep in the midwest? Thought it was miles and miles of cows?
[17:15:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:23] <exec> 08└─That's a fight that the videographer is likely to lose. The distinction between a public servant performing public service in a public space, and a private boss performing private acts on private property will give any court that wants it, a hook to throw the book at the documentarian.
[17:15:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:What we really need... - 06What Do We Want From the Next Librarian of Congress? - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:57] <exec> 08└─That's what we do NOT need - a cult and a freakshow of crazy, Ayn Rand -following, petulant children [playboy.com]. (SFW)
[17:16:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why I want my money hard to trace - 06Criminals Say Nothing Beats Bitcoin for Ransom Payments - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:18] <exec> 08└─You only store your "spending wallet" on your hard-drive. Savings should be generated off-line, with the private keys stored in at least two locations. Paper is almost ideal for this (cheap, long-lasting if kept dry).
[17:16:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 817 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:44] <exec> 08└─It is. There is no right to sell sex for money and there is a right not to be forced into prostitution. The whole happy hooker thing is a myth that people use to try and rationalize why it's OK to use people like that. But, look at the people who go into prostitution. It's hardly a who's who of succ...
[17:16:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:45] <exec> 08└─It's people that have no money, are on drugs, have self-esteem problems or are outright forced to.
[17:16:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 779 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:46] <exec> 08└─Your happy hooker myth statement is based on a practice that is illegal. A fair assessment about prostitution and the effects of it on the workers would require an analysis of legal prostitutes. Such analysis would also need to be compared against the physical and psychological assessments of other...
[17:16:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:55] <exec> 08└─I don't smoke, drink, or dfo drugs. I don't understand and have never understood why anyone would do anything both so costly and self destructive.
[17:16:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03hankwang [100] (Score:2) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 528 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:00] <exec> 08└─"So it's legal, but how well is it regulated [in NL]? Is it licensed? Are there inspections?" Sex workers are considerered entrepreneurs, who don't need a license. However, you will need a license to run a brothel. I think inspections are done, but that means that there should be proper employee rec...
[17:17:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:02] <exec> 08└─The goal isn't to eliminate human trafficking completely, because that's impossible, but to significantly reduce it and its profitability, which is exactly what it would accomplish. No solution is perfect, period, but their lack of perfection is not a reason why they should not be implemented.
[17:17:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:03] <exec> 08└─If prostitution were 100% legal and and open, then the pimp(s) would start beating on the "free operators" and drive them out of their turf.
[17:17:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 539 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:11] <exec> 08└─What? You cite an example proving the guy's point and claim it disproves it? Come on man. Delusional arguments like that do not help your case. How about an actual counter-example? That is kind of bullshit reasoning I was talking about with respect to you and runaway being fellow travelers when it c...
[17:17:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:13] <exec> 08└─Prostitution is legal in Las Vegas, Nevada, too, so there's another counter-example to the FUD. Prostitution will happen no matter what, it can't be stopped (even fucking monkeys [outsidethebeltway.com] engage in prostitution), so the only sensible choice is to try to make it as safe for the workers...
[17:17:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:14] <exec> 08└─"tools specifically created for murder".....tell me AC, how EXACTLY is a 120 pound woman supposed to defend herself against a guy that benches 220 and is a good 100 pounds heavier and bigger than she? Is she supposed to beg nicely after he's done raping her and maybe, juuust maybe, he might not do w...
[17:20:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:A wonderful initiative - 06HardenedBSD Completes Strong ASLR Implementation - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:20:14] <exec> 08└─HardenedBSD is "actually improving security"
[17:22:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Most programmers are not engineers. - 06Self-Hating Software Professionals? - 766 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:22:01] <exec> 08└─Most organizations and owners don't want to spend the time and money to "do it right". Quality is not highly valued in the biz world unless the org gets sued when stuff fails; such as safety, financial computations, or medical processes. However, efficiency is valued: doing more with fewer resources...
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[18:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03TechieRefugee [5665] (Score:1) 02Re:By whom - 06Crazy Chrysler Security Hole: USB Stick Fix Incoming for 1.4 Million Cars - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:26] <exec> 08└─"We are driven... by hackers DEAR GOD SOMEONE HELP US I CAN'T STOP THE CAR BECAUSE OF THESE JERKS"
[18:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Probably not a real fix - 06Crazy Chrysler Security Hole: USB Stick Fix Incoming for 1.4 Million Cars - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:28] <exec> 08└─This is just a software fix for a single exploit. The wiring is still there.
[18:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Probably not a real fix - 06Crazy Chrysler Security Hole: USB Stick Fix Incoming for 1.4 Million Cars - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:29] <exec> 08└─Exactly. The real fix is to separate the critical systems from the infotainment completely or at least install a proxy that only grants read only access.
[18:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03goodie [1877] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Curious about others... - 06Crazy Chrysler Security Hole: USB Stick Fix Incoming for 1.4 Million Cars - 1271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:31] <exec> 08└─More specifically Tesla, who are priding themselves on pushing firmware updates etc. to cars over at night etc. It's funny but I'd bet my ass that those guys have thought of security features for this from the beginning, compared to those bozos who are barely starting to consider patching individual...
[18:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's one of them quasiparticle things - 06Weyl Fermion: Faster Electronics, Cheaper Power? - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:43] <exec> 08└─As usual boris, thanks for providing some context.
[18:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Re:It's all about the $ - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 591 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:24] <exec> 08└─You may have missed my point here. I'm not suggesting this is an abuse of law, although it has elements of that, I'm saying it's an obfuscation of the law. Knowing what you're charged with is one thing, but if an annotated version of a document produced by your own governmental legislature is consid...
[18:14:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:How about all fifty states? - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:38] <exec> 08└─Yes, it's how precedent based law works though. One mistake can persist for a very long time because of it. Some aspects are good, and some are very bad.
[18:14:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Edicts of government are not copyright eligible - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:49] <exec> 08└─The annotations ceased being copyright eligible when the State called them Official. This is very clear in both case law and the official policy I quoted.
[18:15:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Miles and miles of cows - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:15:11] <exec> 08└─The west is not the mid-west, thus why they have different names. Moving east is no big deal. Moving to the middle-east is.
[18:15:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:15:31] <exec> 08└─You sound like a rather violent individual. Even under outdated "eye-for-eye" justice, death as a punishment for property damage is not appropriate.
[18:15:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 518 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:15:48] <exec> 08└─DaFuq? Insightful? Really mods? You DO realize that by that definition the Klan burning black churches or neo-nazis destroying synagogues would NOT be terrorism because its not "random", yes? Sorry sparky but the entire point of terrorism is to install fear in a target and whether that target is a n...
[18:16:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:57] <exec> 08└─In all fairness - when this "fact" is brought up, people should be reminded that life expectancy back then wasn't what it is today. When a person reached sexual maturity, they were not only expected to, but they mostly WANTED to procreate.
[18:17:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:17:15] <exec> 08└─Here in the Netherlands, prostitution is actually legal. Trafficking is still a big problem. Insecure young women, sometimes even minors, get trapped into those "relationships" nevertheless. They are typically blackmailed to keep working under the threat of being outed towards their friends and pare...
[18:17:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:17:28] <exec> 08└─Is anyone trafficking secretarial services?
[18:17:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:17:40] <exec> 08└─You have not shown any such thing. He does not believe you, I don't believe you, and looking at the rest of the responses, no one else believes you.
[18:17:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:17:45] <exec> 08└─It can and does happen. That walls don't stop bullets is exactly why the military doesn't use the "spray and pray" method of clearing houses anymore.
[18:17:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:17:50] <exec> 08└─ummm, I'm not sure that I disagree with you, but the "tools [to] murder people in mere seconds" also includes common objects like knives, hammers, rocks, glass, pencils, etc.
[18:17:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 781 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:17:58] <exec> 08└─There is no crime until you actually act on it. "Attempted murder" requires actually attempting. How do you prove that somebody was planning a murder before they actually commit it? Mass surveillance? Thoughtcrime? The point is, while technically there may be "breaking more serious laws" before mass...
[18:18:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:18:06] <exec> 08└─Yep. Repeatedly confirmed bigot. Don't even bother to listen to this idiot that can't even figure out markup language.
[18:18:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:18:08] <exec> 08└─Repeatedly confirmed bigot.
[18:18:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:18:10] <exec> 08└─Again calling it the USA. It is the US. I live here. I was born here.
[18:19:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:2) 02Re:xkcd - 06The Geometry of String Theory Compactifications (I): the Basics - 524 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:19:54] <exec> 08└─The isomorphisms are topological; in particular, stretching and shrinking is allowed. But even with stretching and shrinking, you can only map local pieces of the surface of a sphere 1-1 onto a Euclidean plane. Mapping a whole sphere 1-1 onto a plane is not possible. You have to leave out at least o...
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[19:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02A strange game - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:19] <exec> 08└─What blows my mind is the fact that you have to go into debt to prove you are good with money. Wouldn't a record of many years in adulthood without the need to borrow money be proof that someone manages their fiances well? It just seems that credit scores are a scam to pressure people into debt and...
[19:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A strange game - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:21] <exec> 08└─It seems that way because that's how it actually is. Most people's lives are filled with excessive waste, and then they wonder why they're in debt.
[19:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:2) 02Re:A strange game - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 571 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:22] <exec> 08└─In some countries you're assumed to be able to pay as long as you have the income to support it. It's not until you start to pay late or default that your rating takes a hit. Also, you don't need debt in order to have a good credit score. I've never had any debt and my credit score is high enough to...
[19:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A strange game - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:24] <exec> 08└─Using a credit card is taking on debt: even if you pay it at the end of the month. I was refused a Credit Union membership because I did not have a credit card at the time (and was officially debt-free for more than 3 years). My bank was willing to give me a credit card because they still had my pas...
[19:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A strange game - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:26] <exec> 08└─Then you ARE going into debt, at least until the end of the month. So your argument fails.
[19:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03e_armadillo [3695] (Score:2) 02Re:A strange game - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 605 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:28] <exec> 08└─Ah, but you *are* borrowing money if you are using a credit card, even if you pay it off immediately. I do the same as you mentioned, purchase using a credit card and immediately pay it off, mainly for the cash rebates the card offers. This has done wonders for my credit score in the last couple yea...
[19:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03danmars [3662] (Score:2) 02Re:A strange game - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 988 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:30] <exec> 08└─Look at it this way: If you borrow money and pay it back, you're a known quantity. Other people know you pay back what you owe, and are more likely to trust you to pay them back if you need to borrow money from them. If you've never owed someone a cent in your life, lenders have no idea what you'll...
[19:13:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Don't think this is a reliable guide - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 1163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:32] <exec> 08└─The crushing burden of student loans on an entire generation of young people might lead many of them to make choices that one wouldn't have expected from their prior education or work history. I got an excellent score on my SATs, and then got into a good college from which I graduated with a good GP...
[19:13:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't think this is a reliable guide - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 937 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:35] <exec> 08└─There's also little or no oversight on the loans and once you've got them they can't be discharged in bankruptcy procedings. Which means that once they say that you owe them money, it's basically impossible to get rid of the "debt" through the normal means. You have to pay them whether or not the mo...
[19:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:*Public* IP address? - 06Crazy Chrysler Security Hole: USB Stick Fix Incoming for 1.4 Million Cars - 1406 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:40] <exec> 08└─First you have to realize that this only applies to those cars that have built-in wifi hotspots for all your portable devices. This is accomplished by buying a data-plan for the car (which comes with a 4G data plan and a sim, and a monthly bill). Very few people buy this because it duplicates their...
[19:13:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:By whom - 06Crazy Chrysler Security Hole: USB Stick Fix Incoming for 1.4 Million Cars - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:45] <exec> 08└─I plead not guilty, Your Honor. My car was hacked.
[19:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Curious about others... - 06Crazy Chrysler Security Hole: USB Stick Fix Incoming for 1.4 Million Cars - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:49] <exec> 08└─the simpler it is the better
[19:13:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Curious about others... - 06Crazy Chrysler Security Hole: USB Stick Fix Incoming for 1.4 Million Cars - 930 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:51] <exec> 08└─I'm just going to keep my old, unconnected car for as long as I can. I am considering a new car. But I have to say this has given me pause (along with the over the radio hack someone did a few weeks ago). Along the lines of 'think I will let that sit for a couple years and let them work it out'. But...
[19:13:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Curious about others... - 06Crazy Chrysler Security Hole: USB Stick Fix Incoming for 1.4 Million Cars - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:53] <exec> 08└─But all those cool toys they are slugging in there are enticing :)
[19:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03boristhespider [4048] (Score:2) 02Re:It's one of them quasiparticle things - 06Weyl Fermion: Faster Electronics, Cheaper Power? - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:05] <exec> 08└─No problem - it's well away from my field of expertise but I did do my Masters on acoustic black holes so at least I was reasonably familiar with quasiparticles and emergent physics at one point.
[19:14:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03bd [2773] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:It's one of them quasiparticle things - 06Weyl Fermion: Faster Electronics, Cheaper Power? - 1985 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:08] <exec> 08└─I can only guess, but reading the popular science in the article, I would guess they want to say electron mobility (i.e. related to resistivity) and not absolute speed of electrons. That doesn't say electrons always have to be as slow as in the applications you mention, of course. The speed of an el...
[19:14:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03_NSAKEY [16] (Score:2) 02Re:How about all fifty states? - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 878 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:47] <exec> 08└─You can find the laws for most states online. Here's a list I compiled: https://openrecords.guru [openrecords.guru] You'll notice that just about every state has their annotated laws online for free. All citizens are expected to automatically know the law...
[19:14:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03_NSAKEY [16] (Score:2) 02Re:How about all fifty states? - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:48] <exec> 08└─Forgot to point out that a lot of those links to online law repositories in my first link point to the annotated versions. Not all of them are online, but there are enough that my point still stands.
[19:14:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How about all fifty states? - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:58] <exec> 08└─A: Sometimes cops are honest people, who can make mistakes
[19:15:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:How about all fifty states? - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:09] <exec> 08└─In Illinois, anyone can look up Illinois laws at the Gwendolyn Brooks Illinois State Library [mcgrewbooks.com] (link is to a story about its renaming) across the street from the Capitol. It's possible they're online as well, but I haven't looked.
[19:15:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What's an online account? - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:33] <exec> 08└─Maybe we should start pooling our mobile phones.
[19:15:42] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 605 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:42] <exec> 08└─Ethics? I think that I addressed ethics above. They disagree with you, so they have some magical right to come into your home, and destroy it? WTF kind of "ethics" is that? Vandalism, destruction of property, is a CRIME, and I don't give a FUCK what your "ethics" are. This is the sort of attitude th...
[19:15:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03penguinoid [5331] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:51] <exec> 08└─Vandalism, destruction of property, is a CRIME, and I don't give a FUCK what your "ethics" are.
[19:17:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:17:30] <exec> 08└─You seem to have some cognitive dissonance going on here. There is no right to sell sex for money and there is a right not to be forced into prostitution.
[19:17:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:17:47] <exec> 08└─The threat of outing is because of societal pressures and not an aspect of legality. If society had more rational views about sex, such pressures should not exist. For example, I do not think any less, or more, of a person that chooses to involve themselves in consenting sex-related practices.
[19:18:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Democracy - 06An Iranian Cloud Architect on the Lifting of Sanctions - 516 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:18:55] <exec> 08└─I'm not disagreeing with your point, just adding a bit. Mosaddegh (elected Iranian leader) yes wanted to audit and get a better deal for Iran's oil with BP, but when that was refused he threatened to nationalize their oil industry, as the Iranians of course had every right to do. That, combined with...
[19:19:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:As smart as a dog - 06Robotics and the Law: When Software Can Harm You - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:19:42] <exec> 08└─I agree that AI will be our slaves. But I don't think they will be independent enough of thought to conceive of a rebellion. We won't make them that way. We will hamstring them to be lesser, since we are too scared.
[19:19:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:As smart as a dog - 06Robotics and the Law: When Software Can Harm You - 549 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:19:45] <exec> 08└─Well, I think that those disclaimers should be enough to push the responsibility to those that aren't allowed to push it any further. That is, car manufacturers aren't (or at least shouldn't be) able to push that liability off, since they are incorporating it into a massive device that could easily...
[19:22:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03danaris [3853] 02I'm comfortable with what I do. - 06Self-Hating Software Professionals? - 908 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:22:31] <exec> 08└─I program in PHP, and I won't apologize for it. Sure, the language has some problems, but it's fixed a lot more than it has. But I also program in Swift. And Objective-C. And C, C++, Java, Perl, and even a little bit of Python and Ruby when the situation calls for it. I use the language that best fi...
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[20:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02There are probably legacy SCO customers out there - 06Xinuos Announces OpenServer X and the Xinuos Business One Developer Program - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:19] <exec> 08└─But I doubt if they'll get any new ones... the SCO brand name was shot to hell by the previous regime.
[20:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score:2) 02Abandonware - 06Xinuos Announces OpenServer X and the Xinuos Business One Developer Program - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:20] <exec> 08└─Didn't everybody already upgrade to a BSD or Linux distro long long ago Whoever needs SCO legacy anymore? The SCO saga has accelerated most porting efforts afaik. Dead company walking^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hcrawling. For those not yet ported their software should do so asap and be off a lot cheaper.
[20:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03FrogBlast [21] (Score:1) 02OpenServer X - 06Xinuos Announces OpenServer X and the Xinuos Business One Developer Program - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:23] <exec> 08└─OpenServer X... let's just abbreviate that to OS X. Finally, a professional Unix-based operating system that's affordable enough for anyone to use: OS X.
[20:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:2) 02Re:A strange game - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 955 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:36] <exec> 08└─By that logic anything other than paying by cash would result in debt. It wasn't that long ago that a check might take a week to clear the bank, during which time you would have been "in debt" by that reasoning. It's not real debt anyways, I don't pay any interest on it and at all points the money i...
[20:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A strange game - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:37] <exec> 08└─By that logic anything other than paying by cash would result in debt.
[20:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:2) 02Re:A strange game - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:38] <exec> 08└─Well, cash is debt too - it's just government debt, not personal debt.
[20:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:A strange game - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:40] <exec> 08└─By that logic anything other than paying by cash would result in debt. It wasn't that long ago that a check might take a week to clear the bank, during which time you would have been "in debt" by that reasoning. It's not real debt anyways, I don't pay any interest on it and at all points the money i...
[20:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A strange game - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:42] <exec> 08└─A society that favors debt, waste, and greed is one that is broken by design. Besides, is the SAT supposed to be impressive? It might show you're decent at rote memorization if you get a good grade, but that's about it. I guess that's why the better universities have so-called 'weed-out' classes.
[20:13:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't think this is a reliable guide - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 835 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:45] <exec> 08└─You are a good example of the challenges of trying to capture intangibles such as good character, honor, self-respect in an algorithm. Society will always have that element of selfish deadweight who feel entitled to take and never give back; those who feel justified in eschewing responsibility and h...
[20:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't think this is a reliable guide - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 550 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:47] <exec> 08└─Society will always have that element of selfish deadweight who feel entitled to take and never give back; those who feel justified in eschewing responsibility and hard, honest work. Perhaps it is a symptom of the participation trophy society where some people feel they are owed all and owe nothing...
[20:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Is this really a problem? - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:48] <exec> 08└─People who go to college and do well aren't typically underserved by the loan industry. They probably qualified for student loans - and thus can establish a credit history by making payments - or had enough family money to pay for it up front and can get family to co-sign any loans they might need....
[20:14:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Probably not a real fix - 06Crazy Chrysler Security Hole: USB Stick Fix Incoming for 1.4 Million Cars - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:06] <exec> 08└─The wiring is still there.
[20:14:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Curious about others... - 06Crazy Chrysler Security Hole: USB Stick Fix Incoming for 1.4 Million Cars - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:09] <exec> 08└─Right now a motivated enough 3rd party team could probably find a way to stream your location data and send you spam without the mfgr's cooperation. Think how much money quicktrip would pay to blast an audio commercial over the speakers when you're slowing down to pull into a mobil gas station with...
[20:14:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03KilroySmith [2113] (Score:2) 02Re:Curious about others... - 06Crazy Chrysler Security Hole: USB Stick Fix Incoming for 1.4 Million Cars - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:13] <exec> 08└─OTA updates for cars. The code and keys and hardware and network and routers and vpns and firewalls to get 'just right' would be quite amazing.
[20:14:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Curious about others... - 06Crazy Chrysler Security Hole: USB Stick Fix Incoming for 1.4 Million Cars - 1430 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:15] <exec> 08└─It is tough to get right *even* with code signing. There is a bit more to it than that. I love this example. The guy went from a signed blob of code to owning the entire device (though he does that in the 2nd video). http://hackaday.com
[20:14:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pepperidge Farm remembers electronics - 06Weyl Fermion: Faster Electronics, Cheaper Power? - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:35] <exec> 08└─The anti-tube... drop voltage low enough and the system will have to live in a shielded cage to prevent ambient fields from inducing logic errors.
[20:15:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:How about all fifty states? - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:15:27] <exec> 08└─So if you mounted an extra tail light on your car and it burned out, you could be legally pulled over?
[20:17:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03puzzled_decoy [5524] (Score:1) 02Re:I have some arguments for jailbreaking smartpho - 06What Do We Want From the Next Librarian of Congress? - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:17:01] <exec> 08└─I kept reading this hoping I would understand the tie-in to LoC. When I reached the end, I saw the off-topic tag. Yeah.
[20:17:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03puzzled_decoy [5524] (Score:1) 02Re:What we really need... - 06What Do We Want From the Next Librarian of Congress? - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:17:07] <exec> 08└─Just a heads on on that article: although its content is SFW, the site has some pop-overs that are borderline NSFW, so tread carefully.
[20:17:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:17:58] <exec> 08└─It's not a myth. There do exist "Happy Hookers". This isn't to claim that it's common, but I've known a couple. *I* think they were making bad decisions, but they didn't agree. That said, they *were* in their early 20's. I suspect a few years later they regretted their actions...but I considered tha...
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[21:13:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03number6 [1831] (Score:2) 02It's two words not one - 06Alternative Browser Pale Moon Releases Version 25.6.0 With Privacy, Security Fixes - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:21] <exec> 08└─Pale Moon
[21:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's two words not one - 06Alternative Browser Pale Moon Releases Version 25.6.0 With Privacy, Security Fixes - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:22] <exec> 08└─*golf clap*
[21:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Cool! - 06Alternative Browser Pale Moon Releases Version 25.6.0 With Privacy, Security Fixes - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:24] <exec> 08└─They've already got the .tar.bz2 file for Linux. Downloading now! No installation necessary, of course - just unpack, and click the executable. For best results, rename or remove the existing Palemoon directory first.
[21:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Cool! - 06Alternative Browser Pale Moon Releases Version 25.6.0 With Privacy, Security Fixes - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:26] <exec> 08└─You aren't going to audit the source code to look for backdoors?
[21:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Cool! - 06Alternative Browser Pale Moon Releases Version 25.6.0 With Privacy, Security Fixes - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:28] <exec> 08└─I've already browsed through the old version. As I've said before, I'm not competent to read the source, but I do like to scroll down through it. No, I'm not auditing the new version - not now. It's to late in the day, even if I felt like it.
[21:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Cool! - 06Alternative Browser Pale Moon Releases Version 25.6.0 With Privacy, Security Fixes - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:30] <exec> 08└─And, I'm back! *bows*
[21:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Re:Cool! - 06Alternative Browser Pale Moon Releases Version 25.6.0 With Privacy, Security Fixes - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:31] <exec> 08└─They have a Linux installer as well - which includes an automatic updater. Which reminds me, I found out about the update at work, need to apply it here at home as well.
[21:13:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Re:Cool! - 06Alternative Browser Pale Moon Releases Version 25.6.0 With Privacy, Security Fixes - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:33] <exec> 08└─Correction: The Linux version via the installer does NOT have an auto-updater. I thought it did, but now that I'm looking for....it's not there.
[21:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02So refreshing - 06Alternative Browser Pale Moon Releases Version 25.6.0 With Privacy, Security Fixes - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:34] <exec> 08└─I switched over to Pale Moon a few weeks ago and this was my first update experiance. It appears no buttons or options have been moved around or lost, no weird unwanted "sharing" features added, and everything still works the same. It really is amazing how unnecessarily dreaded the firefox update ex...
[21:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03iWantToKeepAnon [686] (Score:2) 02CPU hog ... anybody find same? - 06Alternative Browser Pale Moon Releases Version 25.6.0 With Privacy, Security Fixes - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:36] <exec> 08└─I installed this at home on my Linux box and the CPU usage went up to 80/90% and stayed there. Like a polling loop was used instead of sleep/event/interrupt(s). Anybody notice that? I use it at work on Windows and the CPU usage is normal.
[21:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Open Source? Under which license? - 06Xinuos Announces OpenServer X and the Xinuos Business One Developer Program - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:44] <exec> 08└─It's Open as in "Can of Worms".
[21:13:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Open Source? Under which license? - 06Xinuos Announces OpenServer X and the Xinuos Business One Developer Program - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:45] <exec> 08└─From their announcement they list a lot of features of FreeBSD. So take that as you will.
[21:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03tekk [5704] (Score:1) 02Literally Just FreeBSD - 06Xinuos Announces OpenServer X and the Xinuos Business One Developer Program - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:47] <exec> 08└─Did anyone else get that out of their "Key Features" list? I'm more of an OpenBSD guy but is there anything at all in their article that doesn't already exist in FreeBSD? Aside from that web admin system they apparently threw in, which is surely a fantastic idea that can never go wrong.
[21:13:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lunix Nutcase [3913] (Score:2) 02Re:Literally Just FreeBSD - 06Xinuos Announces OpenServer X and the Xinuos Business One Developer Program - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:48] <exec> 08└─Yep, pretty much.
[21:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Literally Just FreeBSD - 06Xinuos Announces OpenServer X and the Xinuos Business One Developer Program - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:50] <exec> 08└─So how long until they start suing the FreeBSD people for stealing their code?
[21:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Xinuos? - 06Xinuos Announces OpenServer X and the Xinuos Business One Developer Program - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:52] <exec> 08└─Wonder if their trademark people checked in with Douglas Comer, of XINU fame.
[21:13:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Xinuos? - 06Xinuos Announces OpenServer X and the Xinuos Business One Developer Program - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:53] <exec> 08└─Cool story, brah.
[21:13:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimios [201] (Score:3, Funny) 02Spin it right - 06Xinuos Announces OpenServer X and the Xinuos Business One Developer Program - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:55] <exec> 08└─"the company birthed from SCO's ashes"- how poetic. More like the company that crawled out of the fetid pool that formed under the undead corpse of SCO that was struck down time after time until it was too broken to stand up. Well going with this analogy the new company is more like the detached tor...
[21:13:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03mechanicjay [7] (Score:1) 02Re:Spin it right - 06Xinuos Announces OpenServer X and the Xinuos Business One Developer Program - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:56] <exec> 08└─Detatched torso? "Running away, eh? You yellow bastards! Come back here and take what's coming to ya! I'll bite your legs off!"
[21:13:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03barrahome [3580] (Score:1) 02hummm - 06Xinuos Announces OpenServer X and the Xinuos Business One Developer Program - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:58] <exec> 08└─I will give a try, never say never maybe there is someting good there.
[21:13:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Disagree) 02Re:hummm - 06Xinuos Announces OpenServer X and the Xinuos Business One Developer Program - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:00] <exec> 08└─Just use FreeBSD. It's what this thing is built on anyway.
[21:14:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03barrahome [3580] (Score:1) 02Re:hummm - 06Xinuos Announces OpenServer X and the Xinuos Business One Developer Program - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:01] <exec> 08└─You have to try everything, then decide what's best for you. I don't care if its FreeBSD. Look at Ubuntu for example, you can tell before it was this big "use Debian". And here we are, must of people use Ubuntu now! ;)
[21:14:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:2) 02Re:A strange game - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:12] <exec> 08└─If you don't mind watering the term debt down to the point where it's completely meaningless, that's just fine. But, every transaction that takes place would involve debt at some stage and I don't think that's a particularly useful way of viewing the situation. What's more, whether you consider it t...
[21:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A strange game - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:13] <exec> 08└─I've never had any debt...Paying for most things with a credit card that's promptly paid at the end of the month is more than sufficient to get a good credit score.
[21:14:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A strange game - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:17] <exec> 08└─Who would you rather hire: a. A person who has been caught committing crimes and fulfilled their sentence with good behavior. b. A person who has never been caught committing a crime. Just because something is known does not make it better.
[21:14:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't think this is a reliable guide - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:20] <exec> 08└─> There's also little or no oversight on the loans and once you've got them they can't be discharged in bankruptcy procedings. That is a common myth. It is hard, but not impossible, to convince a bankruptcy court to wipe them out. [usnews.com]
[21:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't think this is a reliable guide - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 1238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:23] <exec> 08└─It takes two parties to make a bad loan. The bank giving it and the person taking it. If there is one thing to learn in the banking world is that the banks do *NOT* have your best interests at heart. When I was buying a house 15 years ago. It was dizzying the number of 'packages' they were offering....
[21:14:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't think this is a reliable guide - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 509 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:25] <exec> 08└─> Given all of that? The risk is on you. YOU have to have the means and spine to pay it back. What? The risk is on the bank, they made the loan. They literally assumed the risk of default. You just got finished describing how the banks are out to fuck people and then you want to say that what's good...
[21:14:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't think this is a reliable guide - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 1366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:27] <exec> 08└─Indeed. It has nothing to do with personal responsibility and integrity. They FORCED you to be this way. You're ENTITLED to anything you want, and who are they to say you can't get what you want? Your momma always did say you were special. This moral morass can be hard to capture in an algorithm. My...
[21:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Hole, hole everywhere a hole! - 06Crazy Chrysler Security Hole: USB Stick Fix Incoming for 1.4 Million Cars - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:37] <exec> 08└─Would you *really* prefer that the cars OS could be updated over a wireless connection?
[21:14:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcross [4009] (Score:2) 02Re:*Public* IP address? - 06Crazy Chrysler Security Hole: USB Stick Fix Incoming for 1.4 Million Cars - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:41] <exec> 08└─I believe the guys who discovered the vulnerability were pulling the IP addresses of cars using a burner phone on the same cellular network as the cars (it was Sprint IIRC). From reading the Wired article I assumed that traffic from both phones and cars was going through some common point where it c...
[21:14:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Curious about others... - 06Crazy Chrysler Security Hole: USB Stick Fix Incoming for 1.4 Million Cars - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:52] <exec> 08└─LOL maybe the strategy is threaten to do it unless they get money to not do it.
[21:14:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Curious about others... - 06Crazy Chrysler Security Hole: USB Stick Fix Incoming for 1.4 Million Cars - 741 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:57] <exec> 08└─> More specifically Tesla, who are priding themselves on pushing firmware updates etc. to cars over at night etc. That's one of the biggest reasons I won't buy a tesla. The thing practically depends on internet connectivity. Unnecessarily so, like the nav system isn't worth dick without being online...
[21:16:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:How about all fifty states? - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:16:06] <exec> 08└─No, I've known a few basically honest cops. Maybe not *completely* honest, but then I think that's covered under "people". I wouldn't place any bets on them being a majority, or even a sizable fraction, but it only takes one white crow to make "some crows are white" a true statement. Also, 1975 prob...
[21:16:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:What's an online account? - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 2783 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:16:45] <exec> 08└─I've been seriously working on an idea to pool mobile phones for exactly that reason. The trick is to treat the mobile phone number as a dynamic IP address. Using a truly dumb system like a PBX, you could then route all communications through it while maintaining a consistent phone number per member...
[21:16:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't forget New Zealanders - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 679 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:16:48] <exec> 08└─I can recall a joke about New Zealanders, sheep, and the Polish, all in one joke. A New Zealander and a Polish tourist were in a jeep touring a farm. The New Zealander sees a sheep with his head stuck in the fence, pulls the jeep to a stop, and tells the Polish man to give him a minute. After walkin...
[21:16:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 657 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:16:59] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure I'm disagreeing with you, but I would note that "cattle, sheep, pigs, etc." do not have the kind of fur that would be effective against cold. Mink, otters, etc. do. Sea otters are actually the best for that purpose, but they are protected as an endangered species. Fur seals might be nea...
[21:17:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:17:01] <exec> 08└─Yeah - some furs are rather unique. Ever wondered about that fox fur around the hood of a parka? Fox fur will not frost up. Snow can land on it, and build up over time, but the fur will not frost. Or - that's what I've been told, anyway. My parka went missing years ago, and I'm not willing to buy an...
[21:17:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:17:06] <exec> 08└─While true, I think that is unethical behavior on their part, and that they SHOULD be subject to criminal penalties. It should also be illegal, but I'm not certain that it is. An interesting question is, given the first sentence, what ARE ethical criminal penalties?
[21:17:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 978 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:17:32] <exec> 08└─The Klan burning churches and crosses is indeed terroristic. And, it's somewhat randomized. The Klan didn't know or care who was in the building when they burnt it down. Burning a cross happened in one yard, but the burning affected the entire neighborhood - aimed at one and all who might pass by. I...
[21:17:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:I have some arguments for jailbreaking smartpho - 06What Do We Want From the Next Librarian of Congress? - 372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:17:51] <exec> 08└─I kept reading this hoping I would understand the tie-in to LoC. When I reached the end, I saw the off-topic tag. Yeah. It is on-topic though. The Librarian of Congress grants exemptions to the DMCA. The DMCA as written prevents Jailbreaking and the existing exemption is what allows it. I thi...
[21:18:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:Ook - 06What Do We Want From the Next Librarian of Congress? - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:18:02] <exec> 08└─I hope you get the job. And, that there are cameras present, when you are told that due to TPP and TTIP, the world's copyrights are now harmonised with Mexico (100 year).
[21:18:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:18:51] <exec> 08└─all of that anarchist crap only to state that regulation is the answer? fuck off lolbertarian ancap
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[22:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Flyingmoose [4369] (Score:2, Informative) 02How would they know? - 06Gamers Steaming Over Dumb Valve Password Vulnerability - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:20] <exec> 08└─"anyone trying the hijack would be risking a permanent ban" How would they know who was trying it? It could be anyone, even someone who doesn't have a Valve account to begin with. Or you could do it from a WiFi or public computer.
[22:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03djh2400 [725] (Score:1) 02Re:It's two words not one - 06Alternative Browser Pale Moon Releases Version 25.6.0 With Privacy, Security Fixes - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:30] <exec> 08└─Also, the summary says: an alternative browser that forked from Firefox around the time that Firefox went to the "Australis" interface
[22:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Cool! - 06Alternative Browser Pale Moon Releases Version 25.6.0 With Privacy, Security Fixes - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:37] <exec> 08└─If I shared my computer with anyone, I'd probably have to install the browser properly. I got used to just unpacking the archive a long time ago, with Firefox. That way, I could run the release, or the beta, or the alpha/nightly, at will. It was a lot simpler that way.
[22:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:CPU hog ... anybody find same? - 06Alternative Browser Pale Moon Releases Version 25.6.0 With Privacy, Security Fixes - 1182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:41] <exec> 08└─You can run $ strace -p `pidof palemoon` to see what kinds of things the process is doing. Filter out noise using some -e options. It's almost certainly as you suggest a polling loop, or two components playing ping-pong with each other. For example, my my firefox is merily spinning: ... read(9...
[22:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03number6 [1831] (Score:3, Interesting) 02One annoying issue I have with Pale Moon... - 06Alternative Browser Pale Moon Releases Version 25.6.0 With Privacy, Security Fixes - 644 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:43] <exec> 08└─I like dragging URL's from the browser to my desktop. This is an essential part of my workflow and the number one reason I never gave up on Firefox (and Pale Moon). Conversely, this is the reason I never could fall in love with Opera as my everyday browser; it never allowed drag-drop of URL's to the...
[22:13:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03mr_mischief [4884] (Score:2) 02Re:Literally Just FreeBSD - 06Xinuos Announces OpenServer X and the Xinuos Business One Developer Program - 1541 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:58] <exec> 08└─The web admin system sounds a lot like Webmin. I did some searching and within tens of seconds found other web-based system software named very similarly.: X-Admin [webdevelopment.iws.ro] This is not too surprising, though. They seem to be rebranding FreeBSD as the OS, and Xinu is already an OS (one...
[22:13:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Literally Just FreeBSD - 06Xinuos Announces OpenServer X and the Xinuos Business One Developer Program - 579 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:59] <exec> 08└─I don't know nearly enough here to make a truly informed decision, but it doesn't help keeping the name. In a way, it sounds like Hitler(tm) branded breakfast sausage that's now Kosher. As long as the lineage of that company is the same (read: same assholes in monkey suits), I think I will steer cle...
[22:14:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03zeigerpuppy [1298] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Eds - 06Xinuos Announces OpenServer X and the Xinuos Business One Developer Program - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:08] <exec> 08└─Would have been nice if the summary provided some context or discussion of features/why we should care. I think its a bit useless to just post a marketing press release.
[22:14:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:A strange game - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 718 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:28] <exec> 08└─Do you know any accounting, the profession whose sole job is to keep track of these things? When you use a credit card, your account's liabilities are credited, that is increases. Liabilities are debts that need to be paid. When you pay off your liability, your account's liabilities is decreased by...
[22:14:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:A strange game - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:29] <exec> 08└─every transaction that takes place would involve debt at some stage
[22:14:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:A strange game - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:31] <exec> 08└─By that logic anything other than paying by cash would result in debt.
[22:14:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:A strange game - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 1908 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:36] <exec> 08└─Usually this kind of story comes from people who haven't pulled and looked at their credit report. Its a popular mythology. The credit agencies get all excited by having bank and brokerage accounts that have been open for awhile with reasonable balances and no bounced checks. They also like a histor...
[22:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A strange game - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:37] <exec> 08└─No. I keep a very keen eye on my credit record and score. It is pricey to get your own actual score but is worth doing. My score is rock bottom and has zero debt entries. It certainly is not a myth as I am living it.
[22:14:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't think this is a reliable guide - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:45] <exec> 08└─It takes two parties to make a bad loan. The bank giving it and the person taking it.
[22:14:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Determining character - 06Using Algorithms to Determine Character - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:48] <exec> 08└─Using Algorithms to Determine Character
[22:15:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:*Public* IP address? - 06Crazy Chrysler Security Hole: USB Stick Fix Incoming for 1.4 Million Cars - 465 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:15:03] <exec> 08└─That's not how I read it. The put a phone, (iphone I believe), on the in-car wifi, and used that to determine the IP of both the in-car wifi network and the external IP, by connecting back to their own remote computer. The did not use the cellular network on this phone - just the wifi connection fr...
[22:16:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Edicts of government are not copyright eligible - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:16:48] <exec> 08└─"Important cases" are not copyrightable, therefore "summaries of important cases", as derived works, should not copyrightable. Lists of important cases, as simple lists of facts, should not copyrightable.
[22:17:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 597 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:17:36] <exec> 08└─You (acid andy), the poster and the rest of you who defend these retards, DO YOU HAVE ANY FUCKING IDEA WHAT RELEASING ALL THOSE ANIMALS IN TO THE WILD DOES TO THE ECO SYSTEM, THE ANIMALS AND EVERYONE AROUND THERE? ARE YOU FUCKING PLAIN STUPID? If you want to do this kind of shit, why don't you get s...
[22:17:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:17:45] <exec> 08└─You're making a pretty good case for those who engage in bestiality. Documenting some guy planting his bone in a sheep might be against the law as well. The worst thing that your documentarian can REASONABLY be charged with, is trespass. And, if he happens to be on the boss' payroll, well, it ain't...
[22:18:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Archive everything - 06What Do We Want From the Next Librarian of Congress? - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:18:31] <exec> 08└─Nice try, Lonely Librarian!
[22:20:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 617 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:20:27] <exec> 08└─A bigot is a person that refuses to change beliefs, prejudices, and hatred when evidence to the contrary is provided. Person A makes a claim. Person B refutes them. Person A ignores evidence and continues their claim. Person A is a bigot. No ad hominem, in fact the opposite. I am saying that he is s...
[22:20:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:20:31] <exec> 08└─Such anger. Much projection. All lies. Again with quintessential non-american behavior, or should I say behaviour. Nobody that lives here needs to lookup wikipedia to know the population or size of the US. (hint, Americans don't use "million miles square" they use "across" as in 3000 miles across. a...
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[23:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02How much does the artist get from my CD purchases? - 06Smoking Gun: MPAA Emails Reveal Plan To Run Anti-Google Smear Campaign - 703 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:13:18] <exec> 08└─I have many reasons to ourchase compact discs rather than download. Among them is that I am a musician, and I have many close friends who are musicians. Some of them sell out every ticket to their live performances. Even so they are all of very modest means. This leads me to wonder why they arent we...
[23:15:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03bill_mcgonigle [1105] (Score:2) 02Re:Pepperidge Farm remembers electronics - 06Weyl Fermion: Faster Electronics, Cheaper Power? - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:15:48] <exec> 08└─Are you ready for the 1 exaflops Weyltronic desktop? Will Firefox still take several minutes to restore my tabs?
[23:16:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:It's all about the $ - 06US State of Georgia Sues Man for Publishing its Own Laws... on the Internet - 1455 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:16:26] <exec> 08└─I got your point, and it's a damn good one. How can I be found guilty of the law, when the government wishes to make it a crime to disseminate knowledge of the law, and through it's zeal to enforce that, creates financial barriers to my understanding of the law? This is so crazy stupid simple to und...
[23:17:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 657 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:17:43] <exec> 08└─Yep I do. The mink breed and heavily predate other species, of which some are endangered. Hey, these aren't my tactics. I was just objecting to the attitudes of people who aren't willing to accept humans breeding and confining animals to kill them raises ethical issues. I was objecting to people lik...
[23:17:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Agree and disagree - 06Anti-Fur Activists Cover Tracks By Avoiding Technology - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:17:54] <exec> 08└─I guess you failed to read the link I posted above about laws specifically criminalizing exposing animal abuse.
[23:18:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:What we really need... - 06What Do We Want From the Next Librarian of Congress? - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:18:33] <exec> 08└─Thanks. I never saw those, but I use "NoScript".
[23:19:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:19:27] <exec> 08└─A fair assessment about prostitution and the effects of it on the workers would require an analysis of legal prostitutes.
[23:19:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Self defense - 06Internet Escort Slays Alleged Serial Killer - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:19:54] <exec> 08└─I've tried all age groups, males and females -- the good ones use the job for what it is, a stepping stone to get further in life and thus don't last long -- maybe a year. The ones who can't get further in life, inherently suck. When you hire a receptionist, you're looking for someone who is smart,...
[23:21:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:As smart as a dog - 06Robotics and the Law: When Software Can Harm You - 518 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:21:47] <exec> 08└─Maybe initially, but you'll have nutcases like me who will want to grant them autonomy and legal protections, same as I would primates and marine mammals, and a lot of other mammals for that matter. And while I couldn't program an AI, some other nutjob who shares my views would be able to, and then...
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