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[00:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Figures that would be the solution... - 06 Your Body, the Battery: Powering Gadgets from Human "Biofuel" - 606 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:13:20] <exec> 08└─Of course, we could, just possibly eat less. Since Americans aren't going to change their diet, and apparently are not going to commit to several hours a day of exercise to support the diet, adding these energy sinks might be a good thing. If they figure out how to perform something like induction c...
[00:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Hmmm. - 06America's Tweaks to Weapons Trade Pact 'Will Make Web Less Secure' - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:13:30] <exec> 08└─Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master
[00:14:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hold on there, - 06This Audi Comes With Laser Headlights - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:14:04] <exec> 08└─I really don't like it, it's dangerous, if I'm going around curves at night and I get that in the other lane it can cause me to drift abit during that half second where my eyes are focusing again to receive light in the dark. Depending on the time of year, like winter, that can turn into a skid easi...
[00:14:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Hold on there, - 06This Audi Comes With Laser Headlights - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:14:06] <exec> 08└─Honda's, early BMW's, VW's, Escalades/Suburbans, etc.
[00:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Totalitarian zealots - 06Islamic State Is Restricting Internet Access in Its Capital City - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:14:38] <exec> 08└─Coming back around to topic, that does make me wonder about ISIS. Are there similarities? Are they being funded by big money?
[00:16:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03penguinoid [5331] (Score:2) 02Re:No gender diversity here ... - 06US Wins Its First International Mathematical Olympiad in 21 Years - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:16:05] <exec> 08└─It's probably a jab at the large group of people who think that race or gender matter more than performance.
[00:16:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03TestablePredictions [3249] (Score:1) 02Re:Noise - 06US Wins Its First International Mathematical Olympiad in 21 Years - 560 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:16:16] <exec> 08└─Not trying to be smart-aleck here, but in the spirit of the olympiad, I started wondering if there was a clever low-tech way to sort those pistons... Lay two pistons on sides just far enough apart that ruler can lay across them. Line up a third piston onto the center of the ruler and allow to roll i...
[00:16:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Keep the change ya filthy animal - 06Grooveshark Cofounder Josh Greenberg Found Dead - 2 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:16:53] <exec> 08└─nt
[00:18:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Starlight preserve? - 06Tiny Ocean Microbes are Brightening Up the Sky - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:18:22] <exec> 08└─Thanks, I stand corrected! But still, if they are brightening the sky from the outside, (this is what threw me), then they are darkening the sky from the inside, even at night. So, still bad news for astronomy?
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[01:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03penguinoid [5331] (Score:2) 02Re:Dietary aid - 06 Your Body, the Battery: Powering Gadgets from Human "Biofuel" - 477 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:29] <exec> 08└─It shouldn't take extra effort to do things, if it is a fuel cell then none of your muscles are involved. If something is consuming some of your blood sugar, the body should have no trouble releasing more. Depending on where the oxygen comes from, it might increase your breathing rate and handicap y...
[01:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Dietary aid - 06 Your Body, the Battery: Powering Gadgets from Human "Biofuel" - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:31] <exec> 08└─If excretion takes that much work, dietary changes are needed anyway. :-)
[01:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03penguinoid [5331] (Score:2) 02Re:Hmmm. - 06America's Tweaks to Weapons Trade Pact 'Will Make Web Less Secure' - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:41] <exec> 08└─Really? A quote from a sci-fi game?
[01:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03penguinoid [5331] (Score:2) 02Weapons - 06America's Tweaks to Weapons Trade Pact 'Will Make Web Less Secure' - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:13:42] <exec> 08└─the Wassenaar Arrangement – which governs the export of guns, lasers and proper weaponry, and computer hardware and software
[01:14:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Hold on there, - 06This Audi Comes With Laser Headlights - 543 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:14:15] <exec> 08└─Not quite. The rich pimp their car because it's cool to show they can afford it. The poor idiots pimp their cars because it's cool to look like you can afford it, even if your kids' alimony will have to wait another quarter to be paid. In my experience, the ones with the damaged shocks/struts are ac...
[01:16:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Noise - 06US Wins Its First International Mathematical Olympiad in 21 Years - 720 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:16:29] <exec> 08└─It might also be possible to at least partially sort them by taking sets of three arranged [ a ........................................... bc ] and lay the ruler across; if b is taller than c the ruler won't touch c. (If a >> b the ruler would still touch c, but that would be obvious to the naked ey...
[01:16:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03petecox [3228] (Score:1) 02Re:Obligatory... - 06Jide Tech's Remix Mini: $30-40 PC Runs Android "Respin" - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:16:49] <exec> 08└─So the answer is... Possibly not. numerous articles on phoronix have been quite critical of the SoC vendor, Allwinner, in terms of (L)GPL violations - binary blobs without source.
[01:17:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Anarchy and no net or civilization + Internet - 06Vandals Keep Snipping Fiber Optic Cables in California With Impunity - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:17:53] <exec> 08└─You see that dot it the distance? Nope? Kinda normal, given how far you've missed his/her point.
[01:18:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:False flag or ocrruption - 06Vandals Keep Snipping Fiber Optic Cables in California With Impunity - 545 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:18:27] <exec> 08└─One more, the optimist: Reverse Practice Run: How do you know you have enough infrastructure redundancy to sustain a real attack if you never run a real trial? They say you can blackout most of the country by attacking half a dozen distribution points, maybe some TLA wants to force upgrades the fibe...
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[02:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Never dated Carbon - 06Emissions from Fossil Fuels may Limit Carbon Dating - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:13:18] <exec> 08└─I had dates with some Carolines, but never with carbon, you kinky clods.
[02:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:I am puzzled by the efficiency of animals - 06 Your Body, the Battery: Powering Gadgets from Human "Biofuel" - 609 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:28] <exec> 08└─"So if just a fraction of that energy could be siphoned, our bodies could in theory be used to run any number of electronic devices..." I can siphon of 90 seconds off energy by cranking on a small LED camp light and get 30 minutes of light. Like wise I a have a multi-band radio that if I crank for 2...
[02:13:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:2) 02Re:Weapons - 06America's Tweaks to Weapons Trade Pact 'Will Make Web Less Secure' - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:44] <exec> 08└─"What's next, will they declare algorithms to be munitions?" Already were encryption programs were banned for sale for the longest time being classified I think as weapons at the time of the ban.
[02:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Weapons - 06America's Tweaks to Weapons Trade Pact 'Will Make Web Less Secure' - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:45] <exec> 08└─Not weapons. Munitions. Yes really, for those new to the security game cryptographic algorithms were considered munitions and most could not be exported legally until quite recently.
[02:14:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03islisis [2901] (Score:1) 02Re:I like this bit - 06This Audi Comes With Laser Headlights - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:14:25] <exec> 08└─It's likely that the output can be actively modulated as well Each mirror can be tilted up to 5,000 times per second, breaking the beam into pixels that can hit the roadway and also highlight traffic signs.
[02:16:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No gender diversity here ... - 06US Wins Its First International Mathematical Olympiad in 21 Years - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:16:22] <exec> 08└─it comes out the whole Ask Brianna Wu thread was a troll to prove how awful us assigned male techies are, which wouldn't surprise me
[02:18:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Anarchy and no net or civilization + Internet - 06Vandals Keep Snipping Fiber Optic Cables in California With Impunity - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:18:00] <exec> 08└─No, it is pretty spot-on. Though you must figure yours to be the "civilized" response.
[02:18:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Anarchy and no net or civilization + Internet - 06Vandals Keep Snipping Fiber Optic Cables in California With Impunity - 594 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:18:01] <exec> 08└─Look at the big picture. You want to take a snapshot, and compare a couple of nations. Snapshots aren't sufficient to evaluate much of anything. As for New Orleans and Louisiana during Katrina - liberal, incompetent governor, liberal, incompetent mayor. DAYS AFTER the hurricane struck the city, the...
[02:21:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03caffeinated bacon [4151] (Score:1) 02Re:ASICs or GTFO - 06Stephen Hawking and Yuri Milner Announce $100 Million "Breakthrough Listen" SETI Project - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:21:59] <exec> 08└─And then when the aliens and the human AI have been eliminated. A plucky scientist can upload a virus to the alien's AI with a handy MacBook Pro, and humanity can live happily ever after. Well at least until the sequel...
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[03:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02WTF - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:13:19] <exec> 08└─Why the hell do auto manufacturers not air-gap the control mechanisms from the wireless and cellular bullshit? If they're concerned about theft they could simply track the car with GPS or cellular means and call law enforcement to handle it. Disabling a car on the road is just batshit insane, even i...
[03:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Re:WTF - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:13:20] <exec> 08└─Even worse, they don't do that on *airplanes* either! I completely agree with you - this is completely asinine design. Connecting entertainment system with the car (or plane) vitals - WTF is with that?
[03:13:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03el_oscuro [1711] (Score:2) 02Just getting ready to submit this story - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 1339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:13:22] <exec> 08└─Having all of this computerized, networked shit controlling your car? What could possibly go wrong? My next car will have a stick shift with a real clutch. You remember the Toyota fiasco, where they said it was drivers error or floorboard mats or some such bullshit? Most people don't suddenly start...
[03:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Re:Just getting ready to submit this story - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:13:23] <exec> 08└─My next car will have a stick shift with a real clutch.
[03:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:1) 02As opposed to.. - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:13:25] <exec> 08└─The Jeep killing itself and bursting on fire without any outside intervention. I mean, American workmanship with French leadership. That just screams quality to me. </sarcasm>
[03:13:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02And this has *nerver* happened before? - 06Emissions from Fossil Fuels may Limit Carbon Dating - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:13:33] <exec> 08└─I always thought it so odd that we put so much faith into a set of formulas that make assumptions about the level of carbon in the atmosphere being relatively constant, when we already know it is not (and things like volcano erruptions can have measurable affects).
[03:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:Dietary aid - 06 Your Body, the Battery: Powering Gadgets from Human "Biofuel" - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:13:46] <exec> 08└─Dunno about you, but after a good piss I tend to collapse on the wall in front of the urinal. Am I burning calories doing that?
[03:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Duracell! - 06 Your Body, the Battery: Powering Gadgets from Human "Biofuel" - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:13:48] <exec> 08└─Fools! Can you not see what the result of developing tech that allows the use of the human body to generate power! After we scorch the sky, the machines will come for us! Morpheus was right!
[03:14:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Weapons - 06America's Tweaks to Weapons Trade Pact 'Will Make Web Less Secure' - 447 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:14:03] <exec> 08└─They did that before. In the days of the crypto wars stuff like RSA and symmetric key algorithms that could use keys longer than 40 bits were put in the USML and thus fell under the ITAR rules. Until around 1997 exporting a program from the United States that incorporated strong cryptography without...
[03:14:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bartman12345 [1317] (Score:2) 02Yay SA - 06Australia to Run First Robo-Car Trials in Sleepy Adelaide - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:14:11] <exec> 08└─As a South Australian, I for one welcome our new self driving overlords.
[03:15:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Totalitarian zealots - 06Islamic State Is Restricting Internet Access in Its Capital City - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:15:12] <exec> 08└─Right, and Liberials don't want to take everyone's guns away....
[03:15:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Totalitarian zealots - 06Islamic State Is Restricting Internet Access in Its Capital City - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:15:20] <exec> 08└─I haven't really heard any tea partier honestly answer the question of what part(s) of the federal government should get cut back
[03:17:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03petecox [3228] (Score:1) 02Re:Commodore 64 SCPU emulation - 06Jide Tech's Remix Mini: $30-40 PC Runs Android "Respin" - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:17:11] <exec> 08└─4. pioneer arm64 Android net-top?
[03:20:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kell [292] (Score:2) 02Re:More info - 06Gawker Editors Resign Over Deleted Muckraking Post - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:20:29] <exec> 08└─Except that having an affair or using an escort service are not the same thing as prostitution, and there is no evidence that he did anything illegal or intended to. In most countries there is a supposition of innocence until guilt is proven.
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[04:13:25] <exec> 08└─> Why the hell do auto manufacturers not air-gap the control mechanisms from the wireless and cellular bullshit? Because security is an after thought and computer engineers are second-class engineers in the automotive world. Too much ingrained history there. Tesla is probably different, but all the...
[04:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just getting ready to submit this story - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:28] <exec> 08└─Just about every pickup out there. And nearly all the compact Japanese cars. The Europeans are into that automated manual stuff, but it hasn't hit Japanese cars (in a big way) yet. My Nissan pickup has a hydraulic clutch. My Toyota compact car has a cable clutch. But the Toyota has an encoder substi...
[04:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score:2) 02Re:Just getting ready to submit this story - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 1275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:29] <exec> 08└─This is scary, but it isn't what people really should be afraid of. What I want to know is: does the NSA know about this, and will/have they ever use(d) it. Generally if there's a backdoor or a vulnerability, chances are good the NSA knew about it before it was made public. Even if it flew under the...
[04:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:As opposed to.. - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:31] <exec> 08└─Fiat is Italian
[04:13:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:1) 02Re:As opposed to.. - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:33] <exec> 08└─My mistake. I was also chatting to a colleague about his Citroen 2CV whilst I was reading the article. Got the brand nationalities mixed up. Comment still stands, just substitute "Italian Leadership" with "French Leadership".
[04:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Investment - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:13:35] <exec> 08└─Time to stock second hand cars - may come handy someday (who knows when someone needs a getaway car)? (just remember to dump the stock before fuels will no longer be available at "petrol" stations)
[04:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02if SCADA can't get it right... - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:13:38] <exec> 08└─If SCADA suppliers and installers can't get it right, what hope an automotive manufacturer? https://www.tofinosecurity.com [tofinosecurity.com] Also note, many of the components in cars are from third party suppliers, w...
[04:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:And this has *nerver* happened before? - 06Emissions from Fossil Fuels may Limit Carbon Dating - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:44] <exec> 08└─Well we have CO2 data [wikipedia.org] of varying quality going back hundreds of thousands and even millions of years. 14C dating only works up to 50,000 years ago. But the rapid rate of CO2 increase has created the new uncertainty, according to the article.
[04:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Re:And this has *nerver* happened before? - 06Emissions from Fossil Fuels may Limit Carbon Dating - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:46] <exec> 08└─Volcano eruptions are reasonably constant over the duration where carbon dating is useful. Nevertheless, carbon dating is calibrated. It's not some voodoo science. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[04:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Only a problem for the future - 06Emissions from Fossil Fuels may Limit Carbon Dating - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:13:47] <exec> 08└─This is only a problem for the future. Like AGW is a problem for the future generations. The current generations that are causing the problem will not be around to reap the "rewards" so they don't care.
[04:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Yay SA - 06Australia to Run First Robo-Car Trials in Sleepy Adelaide - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:14:24] <exec> 08└─Are you just now getting that episode of the Simpsons down there, Bartman?
[04:14:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02Will be an improvement - 06Australia to Run First Robo-Car Trials in Sleepy Adelaide - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:14:25] <exec> 08└─anyone who has ever driven in Adelaide will know that a car being driven by a toaster would be an improvement over the way the locals drive.
[04:14:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hold on there, - 06This Audi Comes With Laser Headlights - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:14:53] <exec> 08└─> The rich pimp their car because it's cool to show they can afford it. Maybe in 1 in 1000. Don't base a stereotype on an exception.
[04:17:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02(L)GPL compliance - 06Jide Tech's Remix Mini: $30-40 PC Runs Android "Respin" - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:17:33] <exec> 08└─We mentioned last month Allwinner Joins the Linux Foundation [soylentnews.org] The hope is that compliance will improve. -- gewg_
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[05:13:28] <exec> 08└─Automotive engineers are third class engineers (said as a one-time aerospace engineer - yes, those guys are little more than grease monkeys). The automobile is about marketing, not engineering. Computer engineers are a fiction. I've never met a programmer that knows anything meaningful about engine...
[05:13:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Just getting ready to submit this story - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:34] <exec> 08└─Have you noticed how much it costs now to get a pre-midseventys car. Lots of people want them now.
[05:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just getting ready to submit this story - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:36] <exec> 08└─Who do you think this feature was built for? Who do you think VPro/VT/AMT backdoor was built for? Your government, your god and your enemy (if you are male: the prisons are built for you)
[05:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02IoT - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:13:42] <exec> 08└─Now you've got your bloody IoT, fucktards.
[05:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Read RISKS, It Will Put The Fear Of G-d In You. - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 563 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:13:43] <exec> 08└─Forum on Risks to the Public in Computers and Related Systems [ncl.ac.uk] Back in the day, some poor hapless sailor entered a zero into an entry field that was used as the denominator in a division. This crashed the ship's entire Windows NT system, with the result that it had to be towed back to por...
[05:13:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Michael Hastings - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:13:45] <exec> 08└─The journalist who wrote the article that led to the removal of General McChrystal met with an unfortunate accident a bit later when his car went out of control. In his case it was a Mercedes. I'd guess the vulnerabilities have been known in certain communities for a while.
[05:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02This is so that the police / govt can turn off you - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:13:47] <exec> 08└─This is so that the police / govt can turn off your vehicle at will. We live in a police state and need to revolt against it, there really needs to be a war. Remeber: anything a man would ever want to do gives him years in prison.
[05:13:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And this has *nerver* happened before? - 06Emissions from Fossil Fuels may Limit Carbon Dating - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:57] <exec> 08└─But as this article points out those formulas aren't going to work anymore, so cleary the methodology is falling apart.
[05:13:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Only a problem for the future - 06Emissions from Fossil Fuels may Limit Carbon Dating - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:59] <exec> 08└─Future generations can just make diamonds and breathable O2 out of it. They wilL dO this using Limitless energy from fusion and antimatter reactors.
[05:14:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Only a problem for the future - 06Emissions from Fossil Fuels may Limit Carbon Dating - 1392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:14:00] <exec> 08└─Antimatter is unlikely to ever be a significant energy *source* - like a battery charge it has to come from somewhere. There are actually limited quantities captured by the Earth's magnetic field, but try to "mine" it regularly and you won't get more than a trickle. Beyond that it would have to be c...
[05:14:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bartman12345 [1317] (Score:2) 02Re:Will be an improvement - 06Australia to Run First Robo-Car Trials in Sleepy Adelaide - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:14:40] <exec> 08└─Oi, if you don't like the way we drive, stay off the footpath.
[05:14:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03sbgen [1302] (Score:1) 02Re:Will be an improvement - 06Australia to Run First Robo-Car Trials in Sleepy Adelaide - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:14:41] <exec> 08└─Amen to that. With grid-like road system, it should be great for self driving cars. A beautiful, beutiful city.
[05:17:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03petecox [3228] (Score:1) 02Re:(L)GPL compliance - 06Jide Tech's Remix Mini: $30-40 PC Runs Android "Respin" - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:17:50] <exec> 08└─Well yes, *hopefully*. Though the developer of the lima foss driver has made comments since that announcement that they're still in breach of licensing.
[05:21:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:2) 02Re:More info - 06Gawker Editors Resign Over Deleted Muckraking Post - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:21:04] <exec> 08└─Condoms greatly reduce the risk of some infections, not all. And even if the condom appears good it might have a manufacturing defect. Yes, that is rare, but it's not nonzero either.
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[06:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02I'll stick with Linux - 06You may Sleep Well Knowing the Wolfram Language Will Last - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:13:25] <exec> 08└─I use Linux because I am a faggot and I am a bigot and I love to shove randy penguins into my anus.
[06:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:WTF - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 544 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:38] <exec> 08└─1. An air gap increases the cost of materials slightly, and makes some functionality harder and/or impossible [hey, let's update the firmware of the car wirelessly!]. 2. The manufacturers need to be able to upload all the vehicles information to their computers [engine rpm, gear selected, vehicle sp...
[06:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Weapons - 06America's Tweaks to Weapons Trade Pact 'Will Make Web Less Secure' - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:14:37] <exec> 08└─I am not going to obey them. I hope I can burn some of them alive before they "get" me.
[06:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Code is written speech - 06America's Tweaks to Weapons Trade Pact 'Will Make Web Less Secure' - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:14:39] <exec> 08└─Computer programs are speech and algorithims. Our masters don't agree anymore though, so we must obey. The only way to remove them is nuclear war. Remeber: they have banned everything good in life for a male: young girls, good weapons, good vehicles not controlable by the govt. They are your enemy....
[06:15:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hold on there, - 06This Audi Comes With Laser Headlights - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:15:15] <exec> 08└─or a mechanism to release oil...
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[07:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02heh heh. heh heh. heh heh. - 06 For “smaller” Eruptions, Yellowstone Can Wake Up Quickly - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:18] <exec> 08└─"a fresh shot of hot melt"
[07:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:heh heh. heh heh. heh heh. - 06 For “smaller” Eruptions, Yellowstone Can Wake Up Quickly - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:13:19] <exec> 08└─Yeh... it caused an eruption!
[07:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Predictions - 06 For “smaller” Eruptions, Yellowstone Can Wake Up Quickly - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:21] <exec> 08└─Have geologists made any predictions or performed other feats that should convince me they know what they are talking about?
[07:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Desperation - 06You may Sleep Well Knowing the Wolfram Language Will Last - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:30] <exec> 08└─I think the editors ran out of stories and were stuck with this one. Oh, it's a bit interesting that the Wolfram language can now read e-mail, but I must admit I had to suppress a couple yawns.
[07:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Just getting ready to submit this story - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 445 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:13:46] <exec> 08└─What the hell is the point of making it a manual if it's not fully manual? The entire demographic is people who think they want a manual but can't tell the difference when they're driving it? Of course we all like to think we'd figure it out right away but it'd probably take me a couple times when I...
[07:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Just getting ready to submit this story - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:13:50] <exec> 08└─My last car was an automatic, and shifting it into neutral I could do without even looking at it (N being one notch below D; you don't even need to depress the button on the shifter, actually). The trick is having the presence of mind to do that in a pressure situation like that. (I drive a manual n...
[07:13:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Well, in some cases . . . - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:14:00] <exec> 08└─As long as it is a Durango, I don't mind. Seems everyone who drives one of those is a menace. And Ram Trucks? Compensate much? The only appeal of the Hemi these days is that you have very small genitalia and for some reason need to broadcast this fact to the rest of us via exhaust noise! So, shut 'e...
[07:14:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02How many have already been killed? - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:14:02] <exec> 08└─Will the "intelligence community" require such "flaw" on all cars? Some journo, if there are any left, should do a scan. I love my bike more every day...
[07:14:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Never dated Carbon - 06Emissions from Fossil Fuels may Limit Carbon Dating - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:14:11] <exec> 08└─Once you've had black, you never go back!
[07:14:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Hmmm. - 06America's Tweaks to Weapons Trade Pact 'Will Make Web Less Secure' - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:14:42] <exec> 08└─Cookie Monster, is that you? I love you.
[07:15:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Hold on there, - 06This Audi Comes With Laser Headlights - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:15:32] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, we are drivers, not pilots. Its already against the law to illuminate an aircraft with a laser... even a pen laser.
[07:19:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Anarchy and no net or civilization + Internet - 06Vandals Keep Snipping Fiber Optic Cables in California With Impunity - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:19:34] <exec> 08└─Totally. Civilization depends on the stock market and high-speed trading. Just keep the shell game going until everything goes to hell. So, at least until the end of next week.
[07:20:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Is it compatible with spying printers? - 06North Korea's Red Star Linux Inserts Sneaky Serial Content Tracker - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:20:34] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printer_steganography [wikipedia.org]
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[08:13:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sir Finkus [192] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Predictions - 06 For “smaller” Eruptions, Yellowstone Can Wake Up Quickly - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:31] <exec> 08└─Well, they're generally pretty useful if you don't want bridges to collapse, or skyscrapers to fall down. They're also pretty helpful if you want things like running water, oil and natural gas, metals, gems, and minerals.
[08:14:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just getting ready to submit this story - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:02] <exec> 08└─I'll just leave these here. https://en.m.wikipedia.orgörg_Haider [wikipedia.org] https://en.m.wikipedia.org(journalist) [wikipedia.org]
[08:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02Re:Just getting ready to submit this story - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:03] <exec> 08└─Why just the NSA? Pretty much all of law enforcement is going to be hacking cars and stopping whatever they want to stop.
[08:14:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How many have already been killed? - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:17] <exec> 08└─I love my bike more every day...
[08:15:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hmmm. - 06America's Tweaks to Weapons Trade Pact 'Will Make Web Less Secure' - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:15:01] <exec> 08└─If you disagree with the quote, argue against it. Disparaging it because it came from a sci-fi game is classic ad hominen.
[08:17:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Speaking of FUD,.. - 06Drones Hamper Firefighting Efforts - 3781 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:17:31] <exec> 08└─The armed forces of the United States is currently undergoing some military exercises of mixing military into public areas - apparently exercising for riot control. It is known as "Jade Helm 15" - running from July 15, 2015 to September 15, 2015. There are many people out there who think there may...
[08:17:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:No gender diversity here ... - 06US Wins Its First International Mathematical Olympiad in 21 Years - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:17:57] <exec> 08└─Sure, but I'm having trouble seeing any barriers from over here, other than the ones that exist only in the minds of non-Amazon women themselves.
[08:19:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:What? - 06Promo Game Fallout Shelter Made Bethesda Software $5 Million in Two Weeks - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:19:11] <exec> 08└─The game has come under heavy criticism for the pregnant women mechanics too. Basically useful and productive people in your shelter become useless and always run away from danger when pregnant. More over, to win you basically have to use women as baby factories to increase your population, and enco...
[08:21:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] (Score:2) 02Re:What's the story here? - 06Gawker Editors Resign Over Deleted Muckraking Post - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:21:22] <exec> 08└─"Nobody in the movement" No True Scotsman [wikipedia.org], eh?
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[09:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score:2) 02Re:Desperation - 06You may Sleep Well Knowing the Wolfram Language Will Last - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:13:43] <exec> 08└─OTOH, the article proofs a point. That is also a story.
[09:13:51] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] 02WTF - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 413 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:13:52] <exec> 08└─Why the hell do auto manufacturers not air-gap the control mechanisms from the wireless and cellular bullshit? If they're concerned about theft they could simply track the car with GPS or cellular means and call law enforcement to handle it. Disabling a car on the road is just batshit insane, even i...
[09:13:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WTF - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 6 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:13:56] <exec> 08└─Truth.
[09:14:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just getting ready to submit this story - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 575 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:14:07] <exec> 08└─The NSA scares you? Doesn't it seem more likely some company will do so out of profit motive? Oh, you invented *new tech X*. And talked about it with a friend. That friend posted something on facebook. Next thing you know, you're dead, your friend is dead, the post never happened, and it turns out M...
[09:14:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Michael Hastings (Lots of intrigue there) - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 2099 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:14:18] <exec> 08└─Those are some scary links, gewg_. I have been looking for a plain white business van... like one of those Chevrolet 2500 express vans. But the thought of it going out of control on me in the manner of those links you put up makes me think very seriously to get the fuel pump power and run it to an e...
[09:14:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And this has *nerver* happened before? - 06Emissions from Fossil Fuels may Limit Carbon Dating - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:14:35] <exec> 08└─Well, as I see it, the method will deliver two dates, which are generally rather far apart. I'm sure in the majority of cases there will be other ways to decide which of the two dates are correct. There will, however, be a date window where you only can say the date is inside that window. This date...
[09:14:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Only a problem for the future - 06Emissions from Fossil Fuels may Limit Carbon Dating - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:14:40] <exec> 08└─and conservation of energy requires that more energy be put into it than can be usefully extracted.
[09:14:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I am puzzled by the efficiency of animals - 06 Your Body, the Battery: Powering Gadgets from Human "Biofuel" - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:14:51] <exec> 08└─this cranking you speak of. if that means actually *moving limbs*, you can keep your ancient ways to yourself.
[09:15:04] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] 02Hmmm. - 06America's Tweaks to Weapons Trade Pact 'Will Make Web Less Secure' - 547 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:15:05] <exec> 08└─"As the Americans learned so painfully in Earth's final century, free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny. The once-chained people whose leaders at last loose their grip on information flow will soon burst with freedom and vitality, but the free nation gradually con...
[09:15:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:autonomous post - 06Australia to Run First Robo-Car Trials in Sleepy Adelaide - 555 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:15:25] <exec> 08└─Interesting link, but if you were trying to point out that this is not the first test then I feel it misses the point. The test in Adelaide will be conducted on public roads as well as on a test track, whereas the Michigan article headline points out "Driverless cars banished to fake Michigan 'town'...
[09:15:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03hankwang [100] (Score:2) 02Re:This is a laser? - 06This Audi Comes With Laser Headlights - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:15:45] <exec> 08└─The whole point of a laser is that it *doesn't* diffuse, which is exactly what you want your headlights to do at night.
[09:21:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Does this make any sense? - 06North Korea's Red Star Linux Inserts Sneaky Serial Content Tracker - 647 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:21:04] <exec> 08└─Well, Given that it is done in a kernel module and an independent proces, I guess it just intercepts file writes/scans the disk for files, and if it detects a file of a certain type, it inserts its watermark. So essentially, it probably doesn't matter whether your file was written with OpenOffice or...
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[10:14:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Another Bad Idea Looking To Be Exploited - 06Wi-Fi Aware Protocol Stakes Out Your Surroundings - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:14:15] <exec> 08└─Airport gates could make your boarding pass automatically appear, or your favourite shop could advertise its specials to you as you walk by.
[10:14:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Another Bad Idea Looking To Be Exploited - 06Wi-Fi Aware Protocol Stakes Out Your Surroundings - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:14:16] <exec> 08└─Actually already the proposed use is bad enough. The last thing I want is shops to push ads on whatever device I'm using.
[10:14:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Cloudy feature - 06You may Sleep Well Knowing the Wolfram Language Will Last - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:14:45] <exec> 08└─From the article, emphasis by me: MailReceiverFunction is a Wolfram Language function that I deploy to the cloud to operate on incoming emails. When I deploy a function, I get an email address. Emails sent to that address will be processed by the function.
[10:15:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WTF - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 429 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:15:01] <exec> 08└─> Automotive engineers are third class engineers (said as a one-time aerospace engineer So, said as someone who has never actually worked for an automotive company. > Computer engineers are a fiction. I've never met a programmer that knows anything meaningful about engineering. You worked in aerospa...
[10:15:07] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] 02Re:Just getting ready to submit this story - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 1275 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:15:08] <exec> 08└─This is scary, but it isn't what people really should be afraid of. What I want to know is: does the NSA know about this, and will/have they ever use(d) it. Generally if there's a backdoor or a vulnerability, chances are good the NSA knew about it before it was made public. Even if it flew under the...
[10:15:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score:2) 02Re:Investment - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:15:19] <exec> 08└─Much less vulnerable to EMP too, and far easier to do DIY repairs. The main here is oxidation. Rustoleum and WD-40 work wonders on a 1968 Ford.
[10:16:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Figures that would be the solution... - 06 Your Body, the Battery: Powering Gadgets from Human "Biofuel" - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:16:05] <exec> 08└─Of course, we could, just possibly eat less.
[10:16:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Duracell! - 06 Your Body, the Battery: Powering Gadgets from Human "Biofuel" - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:16:07] <exec> 08└─Of course that ignores totally the fact that the machines could have harvested much more energy by directly using as energy source whatever they used to feed the humans.
[10:16:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yay SA - 06Australia to Run First Robo-Car Trials in Sleepy Adelaide - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:16:39] <exec> 08└─mono... DOH!
[10:18:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Totalitarian zealots - 06Islamic State Is Restricting Internet Access in Its Capital City - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:18:05] <exec> 08└─But isn't Jerusalem already back in the hands of Israel?
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[11:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Re:Another Bad Idea Looking To Be Exploited - 06Wi-Fi Aware Protocol Stakes Out Your Surroundings - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:23] <exec> 08└─The next 'improvement' will be that you can't switch off WiFi anymore...
[11:14:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Predictions - 06 For “smaller” Eruptions, Yellowstone Can Wake Up Quickly - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:36] <exec> 08└─Well, they've predicted where you can dig to find gold and other minerals, and they've mostly been doing this very profitably. They've also made such useful predictions like determining whether a certain spot of land is safe to build on or will sink when you build a structure of a certain size on to...
[11:17:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:I like this bit - 06This Audi Comes With Laser Headlights - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:17:25] <exec> 08└─There was a story a while back about a system (still in development) that tracked individual drops of rain and selectively de-illuminated them.
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[12:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Ping time - 06Astronauts' Skin Gets Thinner in Space, Scientists Say - 784 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:26] <exec> 08└─Telepresence robots may be acceptable in low earth orbit, but for anything further out, I don't think this would work out well. Remember, signals are going with the speed of light. For the moon, that already means one second before you get the sensory information, and one further second before your...
[12:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ping time - 06Astronauts' Skin Gets Thinner in Space, Scientists Say - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:27] <exec> 08└─I remember playing Unreal Tournament on 56k. Trust me, NASA can find people that will be happy to deal with controlling a space robot with lag.
[12:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Solution for a problem - 06Astronauts' Skin Gets Thinner in Space, Scientists Say - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:29] <exec> 08└─Perhaps we ought to go with exploration via telepresence robots for the time being?
[12:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Or Not.. - 06 El Niño Intensifying, Could Rival Strongest in Recorded History - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:37] <exec> 08└─More clickbait hyperbole in the headlines. RTFA and the article's own prediction is 80% of '98. lame. No runaway global warming here.
[12:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Prepare for tears - 06 El Niño Intensifying, Could Rival Strongest in Recorded History - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:39] <exec> 08└─Prepare for the tears of rich people that decided to build their house on the side of a fuckin' cliff.
[12:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Prepare for tears - 06 El Niño Intensifying, Could Rival Strongest in Recorded History - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:41] <exec> 08└─Well, they should have listened to Albert Hammond: It never rains in California, but girl, don't they warn ya: It pours, man, it pours!
[12:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Another Bad Idea Looking To Be Exploited - 06Wi-Fi Aware Protocol Stakes Out Your Surroundings - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:51] <exec> 08└─The next 'improvement' will be that you can't switch off WiFi anymore...
[12:14:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Predictions - 06 For “smaller” Eruptions, Yellowstone Can Wake Up Quickly - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:03] <exec> 08└─Yeah, like those geologists have no other purpose in life than to convince a special snowflake, an AC one no less.
[12:14:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Desperation - 06You may Sleep Well Knowing the Wolfram Language Will Last - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:15] <exec> 08└─but I must admit I had to suppress a couple yawns.
[12:14:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03utoddl [819] (Score:1) 02language - 06You may Sleep Well Knowing the Wolfram Language Will Last - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:17] <exec> 08└─English however continues its decline. Perhaps Wolfram can parse this short article on the first pass. Mere mortals, however,...
[12:14:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:WTF - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:32] <exec> 08└─Computer engineers are a fiction.
[12:14:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03skater [4342] (Score:2) 02Re:WTF - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 992 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:34] <exec> 08└─I have one of the affected vehicles. I have an app on my phone that lets me start it, lock it, and unlock it remotely, which I don't use (my key fob works as far away as I'd want to be). My free trial time is about up and they'll want me to start paying for it, but I'm not going to pay for that. On...
[12:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03skater [4342] (Score:2) 02Re:Just getting ready to submit this story - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:39] <exec> 08└─Someone hasn't shopped for pickups lately. I think Ram is the only that offers a stick shift, and I'm not even sure about that one.
[12:14:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Just getting ready to submit this story - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 1482 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:46] <exec> 08└─Not just NSA, also every foreign country in the world. Maybe not afghanistan, because thats not exactly a high tech hub, but I could see some Admiral, General, corporate exec, or journalist offending North Korean or China or Russia or possibly Iran getting mysteriously run over in a crosswalk by som...
[12:14:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02MANUAL PARKING/HANDBRAKE!!!!! - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:49] <exec> 08└─Lot of people forget that one, and at least on the 'common' cars a lot of companies have replaced the cable assembly for the rear parking drum brakes with an electrically controlled emergency brake. No real biggie y'know if you HAVE ELECTRICAL POWER, which you probably won't any time you are really...
[12:15:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:This is so that the police / govt can turn off - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 1104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:02] <exec> 08└─Just pointing out that you can fight stone age tribesmen all you want, but if we ever attacked a post 1900 era civilization, they'd pown SOME of our cars and shut them down remotely. So its not just the local cops, but if we ever fight North Korea you may as well kiss big brother cars goodbye, they...
[12:18:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:PLA plastic - 06 Repeated Drying Cycles Can Form Protein-like Polymers - 1114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:18:00] <exec> 08└─Don't think so. The liquid 200C PLA solidifies when it hits the 70C kapton and it can't be removed without destroying the kapton or the PLA, or at least peeling the kapton off the printer bed, while the bed remains above 50C or so. But once the bed cools to room temp the PLA practically falls off by...
[12:19:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Noise - 06US Wins Its First International Mathematical Olympiad in 21 Years - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:19:15] <exec> 08└─Speaking of the middle of the ruler, I think overbore pistons are heavier, so fulcrum the center of the ruler and do some balance games?
[12:19:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03zzarko [5697] (Score:1) 02Re:Commodore 64 SCPU emulation - 06Jide Tech's Remix Mini: $30-40 PC Runs Android "Respin" - 483 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:19:31] <exec> 08└─Emulation of ordinary C64 with 6502 on 1MHz isn't a problem, it can run several times faster than original C64. The problem is emulation of C64 with SCPU (as stated in title). SCPU (or SuperCPU) is an addon card for C64 with 16-bit 65C816 processor on 20MHz, up to 16MB of RAM and complicated interac...
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[13:13:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geotti [1146] (Score:2) 02Re:Ping time - 06Astronauts' Skin Gets Thinner in Space, Scientists Say - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:31] <exec> 08└─Oh yeah! One our our clan members got so used to the lag, he became much worse, when he finally switched to ISDN and then to DSL.
[13:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02distribution? - 06Astronauts' Skin Gets Thinner in Space, Scientists Say - 783 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:34] <exec> 08└─I bet the distribution is interesting. My favorite theory is less chaffing and rubbing from zero G means thinner skin which doesn't matter because there's less chaffing and rubbing from zero G. The distribution is the key... I don't rub my neck into anything on the surface, so I'd assume it wouldn't...
[13:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Don't send pop singers into space - 06Astronauts' Skin Gets Thinner in Space, Scientists Say - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:36] <exec> 08└─They're already some of the thinnest-skinned people around.
[13:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03OrugTor [5147] (Score:1) 02Re:Prepare for tears - 06 El Niño Intensifying, Could Rival Strongest in Recorded History - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:47] <exec> 08└─It always surprises me that not all the cliffs have slid yet. I suppose a cliff weakens a little more with each downpour until it goes over the edge, so to speak. Plus, there are newly-developed cliffs all eager to begin their journey to extinction.
[13:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03doublerot13 [4497] (Score:2) 02Obligatory - 06 El Niño Intensifying, Could Rival Strongest in Recorded History - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:48] <exec> 08└─SNL[Chris Farley] https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[13:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03gallondr00nk [392] (Score:2) 02Mudslides. - 06 El Niño Intensifying, Could Rival Strongest in Recorded History - 1107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:50] <exec> 08└─There were bad floods here in the UK a couple of years back, and one of the contributing factors was that farmers are no longer obliged to sow cover crops over their fields for the winter. A root system on a bare field not only soaks up far more water than bare soil, preventing run offs causing floo...
[13:14:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Another Bad Idea Looking To Be Exploited - 06Wi-Fi Aware Protocol Stakes Out Your Surroundings - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:01] <exec> 08└─Isn't this just an open, non-crippled version of iBeacons? Kind of like WiFiDirectt/AirDrop, except in that case WiFiDirect was first?
[13:14:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03doublerot13 [4497] (Score:2) 02Creepy and immoral. - 06Wi-Fi Aware Protocol Stakes Out Your Surroundings - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:02] <exec> 08└─This is just another attempt to associate people with devices. And it should fail miserably, because impersonating someone else is as hard as 'macchanger -m aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff wlan0'. This is only being pushed to make ad money from and track the rubes....and track people as they go about their daily...
[13:14:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Predictions - 06 For “smaller” Eruptions, Yellowstone Can Wake Up Quickly - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:16] <exec> 08└─Well, given that the oil and gas companies pay them a lot for their work, I guess the answer is yes.
[13:14:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geotti [1146] (Score:2) 02Re:Cloudy feature - 06You may Sleep Well Knowing the Wolfram Language Will Last - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:27] <exec> 08└─From your quote it follows that a method/function can have an email that processes mail send to this address.
[13:14:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cloudy feature - 06You may Sleep Well Knowing the Wolfram Language Will Last - 428 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:28] <exec> 08└─oh for the love of Azathoth... there are so many different people/bots/middleboxes in the five eyes (and probably funky private actors as well) reading that email you sent with that function, how is it relevant if a few more thousands people have POTENTIAL access to it?! also, of all the people who...
[13:14:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:language - 06You may Sleep Well Knowing the Wolfram Language Will Last - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:31] <exec> 08└─Why? It's actually easy to parse: It says that the Wolfram Alpha guys announced that they now read their email and are compliant with Zawinski's law, and that way also protect Wolfram Language from becoming obsolete. Now I doubt that this is exactly what the author wanted to say, but that's not a pr...
[13:14:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WTF - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:48] <exec> 08└─Point 2 could easily be done with a link that's one way by design. That is, the critical circuits can send their data to the general circuits, but not the other way round, enforced by hardware. Of course that would again cost more, and thus point 1 kicks in again.
[13:14:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just getting ready to submit this story - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:15:00] <exec> 08└─And here are the desktop links, for people still using real computers: https://en.wikipedia.orgörg_Haider [wikipedia.org] https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[13:16:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I get the sentiment - 06Australia to Run First Robo-Car Trials in Sleepy Adelaide - 430 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:31] <exec> 08└─This is kinda like saying "Let's catch up to the rest of the world on the new thing by going about it slower than them." The funny thing is that Australia is the first place I would expect Autonomous Semi-trucks to be deployed. Thousands of miles of empty roadways connecting some of the most sparsel...
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[14:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Please apply the Richard Test - 06Australian Government Wants to Tell Telcos How to Do Security - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:19] <exec> 08└─and wants to give itself the power to directly intervene in the companies when there is a security risk.
[14:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Ping time - 06Astronauts' Skin Gets Thinner in Space, Scientists Say - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:31] <exec> 08└─expect many accidents due to too long reaction time
[14:13:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Skin Bacteria - 06Astronauts' Skin Gets Thinner in Space, Scientists Say - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:34] <exec> 08└─Of course. The heavy ones won't fall off in free fall!
[14:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:distribution? - 06Astronauts' Skin Gets Thinner in Space, Scientists Say - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:36] <exec> 08└─less ... rubbing from zero G
[14:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Exploration - 06Astronauts' Skin Gets Thinner in Space, Scientists Say - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:39] <exec> 08└─Perhaps we ought to go with exploration via telepresence robots for the time being?
[14:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03threedigits [607] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Control group? - 06Astronauts' Skin Gets Thinner in Space, Scientists Say - 591 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:40] <exec> 08└─Whenever I read about those effects produced by long term space missions, I cannot help but wonder if they do use proper control groups for validating their results (I guess they do not). While the phrase in the summary ("skin gets thinner in space") may be technically correct, it's just too temptin...
[14:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Control group? - 06Astronauts' Skin Gets Thinner in Space, Scientists Say - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:42] <exec> 08└─of course they do control groups. it's called regular people going for regular checkups. i.e. they know that someone of a certain age, sex and physical condition should be in a reasonably narrow range of physical conditions after a limited amount of time, and they compare with that.
[14:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Control group? - 06Astronauts' Skin Gets Thinner in Space, Scientists Say - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:44] <exec> 08└─Well, regular people usually don't live off astronaut food, and they are frequently exposed to direct sunlight. The point of threedigits' post is that there are more factors that differ between regular people and people on the ISS than just gravity.
[14:13:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Hell NO - 06Astronauts' Skin Gets Thinner in Space, Scientists Say - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:45] <exec> 08└─Perhaps we ought to go with exploration via telepresence robots for the time being?
[14:13:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mudslides. - 06 El Niño Intensifying, Could Rival Strongest in Recorded History - 1353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:56] <exec> 08└─The problem they have is the particular area and the rain cycles. Around SD and LA there are hills. LOTS of hills and you keep going mountains. So yeah they plant stuff to keep it in place. The other problem is they are borderline a desert. So they can go 5+ years with little to no rain. All that 'f...
[14:14:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Creepy and immoral. - 06Wi-Fi Aware Protocol Stakes Out Your Surroundings - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:09] <exec> 08└─As evidenced by or your favourite shop could advertise its specials to you as you walk by.
[14:14:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Creepy and immoral. - 06Wi-Fi Aware Protocol Stakes Out Your Surroundings - 1584 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:10] <exec> 08└─I agree. It is a shame we have to randomize our MAC addresses. Many products do not even have a simple means of doing so. I've done so for my own educational purposes back when learning networks -- and when I replaced my 10mb network card, my cable modem refused my new connection. I have had to use...
[14:14:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cloudy feature - 06You may Sleep Well Knowing the Wolfram Language Will Last - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:39] <exec> 08└─Your argument is "it's already bad, why are you whining about making it even more bad" Now go sit in that corner and think about what you've said
[14:14:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ken_g6 [3706] (Score:2) 02Matlab language will last longer - 06You may Sleep Well Knowing the Wolfram Language Will Last - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:43] <exec> 08└─Because it has an open-source implementation in Octave. If Wolfram Software goes under, Wolfram Language dies with it.
[14:14:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:WTF - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 549 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:56] <exec> 08└─Automotive engineers are third class engineers (said as a one-time aerospace engineer - yes, those guys are little more than grease monkeys). The automobile is about marketing, not engineering. Computer engineers are a fiction. I've never met a programmer that knows anything meaningful about engine...
[14:15:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:WTF - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:00] <exec> 08└─CE/EE are mostly the same. The only difference is an EE studies more Analog and RF while the CE studies more Digital design. You can easily double major in those two without needed any unnecessary classes.
[14:15:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:WTF - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:02] <exec> 08└─Computer engineers are a fiction. I've never met a programmer that knows anything meaningful about engineering.
[14:15:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Just getting ready to submit this story - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 701 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:11] <exec> 08└─That whole post is a big wtf. Dont get me wrong, I'm not trying to insult you. I think there is some confusion about terminology is all. There is no such thing as a "real clutch" vs some other form of clutch. A clutch is a clutch. Your Pontiac G3 has a hydraulically actuated clutch, the most popular...
[14:15:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just getting ready to submit this story - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:13] <exec> 08└─Posting AC, already late for work... Dual clutch transmissions are out now, and are typically automatically shifted by the computer, or done by a paddle style mechanism. It is two real actual clutches, but it is automated - no pedal. (Sorry for nitpicking ;)
[14:15:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03morgauxo [2082] (Score:2) 02Re:Never dated Carbon - 06Emissions from Fossil Fuels may Limit Carbon Dating - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:46] <exec> 08└─Was Caroline a silicon based lifeform?
[14:15:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And this has *nerver* happened before? - 06Emissions from Fossil Fuels may Limit Carbon Dating - 1151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:53] <exec> 08└─Unless future scientist are dimwits they will just add some more points to the calibration curve (points for 2015-2050 C12 C13 C14 ratios that we can't add now) and everything will work just like now. For example someone finds old food container with "date of production 2009" written on it. Then car...
[14:16:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:autonomous post - 06Australia to Run First Robo-Car Trials in Sleepy Adelaide - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:16:43] <exec> 08└─Nope, I was bringing in a related article when there were no comments.
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[15:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Insightful) 02Stallman is correct - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:18] <exec> 08└─There isn't even a need to comment here because his quoted statement is already 100% correct.
[15:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillAdams [1424] (Score:1) 02Re:Stallman is correct - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:19] <exec> 08└─A clause which forbids running a program on a user's system w/o their implicit permission?
[15:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Stallman is correct - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 412 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:20] <exec> 08└─That's too vague. For example, consider the new Pocket issue of Firefox. Clearly some people don't like that, and were surprised that Firefox included that feature. Now assume the pocket code had been licensed to Mozilla under an "implicit permission" clause. Would the Firefox release with pocket su...
[15:13:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Stallman is correct - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 929 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:22] <exec> 08└─Yet again no, he isn't. Frankly freedom zero should be PHYSICAL freedom, because if you don't have that what does it fucking matter about the damned software? In this case we have state actors using your freedom against you by taking these tools and using them to squash the most important freedoms,...
[15:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02GPLv3 Should Be Good Enough - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 520 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:24] <exec> 08└─Presumably Hacking Team's sales included things like restrictions on distribution, and they probably didn't even provide source to their customers. So they would have run afoul of the GPL's "no additional restrictions" requirement. The guy should just use the GPLv3. If he wanted to be punitive abou...
[15:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:GPLv3 Should Be Good Enough - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:25] <exec> 08└─We need a lot more info than has been provided. It'll be tricky to find a way to stop the team without stopping Dell from shipping a server preloaded with redhat linux and things like android phones. For an even trickier problem, how to not block something like the octopi distribution for 3-d printe...
[15:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03shipofgold [4696] (Score:1) 02Re:GPLv3 Should Be Good Enough - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:27] <exec> 08└─By extension I would argue that since the Hacking Team software runs on devices they do not own, they would already be in violation of GPLv2. IANAL
[15:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:3, Interesting) 02I usually find Stallman's positions too extreme - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 847 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:29] <exec> 08└─Normally, I think Stallman takes a good idea, and applies it in such a broad way that it becomes ludicrous. In this instance, I think he is 100% correct - but for the wrong reasons. The truth of the matter is that, if we have free software (using Stallman's definition of that term), then we cannot p...
[15:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02stop evil now - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:30] <exec> 08└─Would a company that exploits software vulnerabilities even pay for software? They already know what they're getting is riddled with holes, and they want to break the security of any application that could compromise a system. Would they respect a "no evil" clause in an open source license? Even tho...
[15:13:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02We've seen this far to often - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 521 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:32] <exec> 08└─Someone does something we don't like, and it's "There ought to be a law!" The last time that was REALLY a good idea, was when Candy Lightner hounded legislators in almost every state to pass drunk driving laws. QUESTION: How many of you are old enough to remember when there basically were no drunk d...
[15:13:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Open Source vs. Free Software - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:33] <exec> 08└─But of course, even open source advocates are free to disagree with Stallman on many issues.
[15:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Every time I see something like this... - 06Australian Government Wants to Tell Telcos How to Do Security - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:39] <exec> 08└─... I imagine someone demanding a window that's unbreakable except by one specific brand of crowbar. And then I remember that people in power don't understand that that's exactly what they're demanding, and I get very sad.
[15:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:3, Touché) 02Battle between the Telcos and the Gov? - 06Australian Government Wants to Tell Telcos How to Do Security - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:40] <exec> 08└─Does that mean Australia is different from the U.S. where the Telcos actually own the government.
[15:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Re:Battle between the Telcos and the Gov? - 06Australian Government Wants to Tell Telcos How to Do Security - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:43] <exec> 08└─That's not true. Here in the US, the corporations are the government. Sure, they put some people in Congress and the White House as scapegoats^Wfigureheads, but we all know what's going on at this point.
[15:13:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02At first reading - 06Australian Government Wants to Tell Telcos How to Do Security - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:45] <exec> 08└─At first reading, it seems to be a pretty good idea. BUT - we already know that Australia's government is competing with that of the UK to be the most intrusive government in the world. I'm asking myself, "Would I want the NSA mandating how security is done at MY telco?" Hardly.
[15:14:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Emo-statements should at least be correct.... - 06Astronauts' Skin Gets Thinner in Space, Scientists Say - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:03] <exec> 08└─Bone de-calcification? Check. Cancer from space radiation? Check. Thinner skin? Check. Perhaps we ought to go with exploration via telepresence robots for the time being?
[15:14:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:2) 02and the water too. - 06 For “smaller” Eruptions, Yellowstone Can Wake Up Quickly - 671 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:47] <exec> 08└─It seems to me that the water in the caldera could add to the problem. When the thing blows there will be a lot of hot lava/magma that will start to vaporize that water. I'm not thinking the slow trickle of lava into the ocean that Hawaiian tourists go see, but a lot of lava with a lot of heat energ...
[15:15:24] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03davester666 [155] 02Re:WTF - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 544 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:24] <exec> 08└─1. An air gap increases the cost of materials slightly, and makes some functionality harder and/or impossible [hey, let's update the firmware of the car wirelessly!]. 2. The manufacturers need to be able to upload all the vehicles information to their computers [engine rpm, gear selected, vehicle sp...
[15:15:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Just getting ready to submit this story - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:36] <exec> 08└─Now I get it, automated manual vs an actual manual. When I hear manual transmission I think pure manual. An "automated manual transmission" is a misnomer. I don't care if someone bolted servo motors to a real manual and automated it, it's no longer manual.
[15:15:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just getting ready to submit this story - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:38] <exec> 08└─VW had a stick shift automatic in the 60's-70's. It had a real clutch, no clutch pedal, but also had a torque converter, and a touch-switch on the shifter, as soon as you grab the shifter it would engage the clutch.
[15:16:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Well, in some cases . . . - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:16:00] <exec> 08└─Bumper sticker I once read: "Nice truck. Sorry about the penis."
[15:16:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:2) 02Paging Ken Ham.... - 06Emissions from Fossil Fuels may Limit Carbon Dating - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:16:23] <exec> 08└─Waiting for him to add this to his "Earth is only 6000 years old and science is WRONG" rants, despite the fact that it does nothing to invalidate results for any objects known to predate the large-scale burning of fossil fuels.
[15:16:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Figures that would be the solution... - 06 Your Body, the Battery: Powering Gadgets from Human "Biofuel" - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:16:41] <exec> 08└─Since Americans aren't going to change their diet
[15:16:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Still no reference to Matrix??? - 06 Your Body, the Battery: Powering Gadgets from Human "Biofuel" - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:16:44] <exec> 08└─This is application of recursion to our Matrix. [youtube.com]
[15:17:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:autonomous post - 06Australia to Run First Robo-Car Trials in Sleepy Adelaide - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:17:14] <exec> 08└─K - thx :)
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[16:13:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:2) 02How it got there - 06Studies Find Genetic Signature of Native Australians in the Americas - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:16] <exec> 08└─> there's DNA from the distant Pacific floating around... two groups disagree about how it got there. My theory: G'day. Mate?
[16:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcross [4009] (Score:2) 02Re:Stallman is correct - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:29] <exec> 08└─What if some kind of explicit permission were required? You would need to put up some kind of EULA-like message before running the code, and while this would be a needless encumbrance for most free software, it seems like a good idea for exploit code published by white/gray hats. Essentially it woul...
[16:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Stallman is correct - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:31] <exec> 08└─Physical freedom and software freedom are different issues. If you take issue with the tactics of governments, then tackle that issue. No need to sacrifice freedom 0.
[16:13:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Stallman is correct - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:33] <exec> 08└─Society is a too complex system to pack it in optimized overall rules (as in having SW license rules considering each and every effect on the physical world). You have to modularize / to think object oriented to get it organized. Rules for physical freedom have to be established / enforced separatel...
[16:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:GPLv3 Should Be Good Enough - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:36] <exec> 08└─Wait … so if I run gcc on my employer's computer (as part of my work), I'm violating the GPL because it's not my computer?
[16:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I usually find Stallman's positions too extreme - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:38] <exec> 08└─Normally, I think Stallman takes a good idea, and applies it in such a broad way that it becomes ludicrous.
[16:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:We've seen this far to often - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 523 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:41] <exec> 08└─I agree. I think DUI laws are no longer about safety but revenue generation. My wife was driving at 2AM. Cop pulled her over for 'weaving'. Considering where he was sitting there was no way for him to seen anything. He made her do the full test. Let her go 'this time'. Basically he was sitting aroun...
[16:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:We've seen this far to often - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:42] <exec> 08└─I personally can not *wait* for self driving cars.
[16:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:We've seen this far to often - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 1034 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:44] <exec> 08└─Actually it wasn't a good idea then either as instead of using a sensible approach like basic field sobriety tests they went with an arbitrary number based system that not only didn't tell you shit about whether they were driving drunk (a 6'4 340 pound man that works out can be totally sober whereas...
[16:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:We've seen this far to often - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:45] <exec> 08└─it was up to the cop to decide if you qualified
[16:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Re:We've seen this far to often - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 416 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:47] <exec> 08└─And that's critically important: An officer who wanted to could ticket absolutely anybody for "unsafe operation of a vehicle", and the driver would now be in the impossible position of proving that they weren't drunk last night (yes, I know they're supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, but a...
[16:13:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02you lost me at "an open source toolkit" - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:48] <exec> 08└─Okay, so he released "an open source toolkit" and was ... surprised ... that a corporation exploited it to make money? Really? Has he not noticed the billions Google and Apple are making by exploiting open source? Where one little bug in a low-level library they exploit but don't financially support...
[16:14:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Ping time - 06Astronauts' Skin Gets Thinner in Space, Scientists Say - 620 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:10] <exec> 08└─Hell I do that right now, I play War Thunder (anybody else here play?) and when there is little activity on the US servers I go to the EU and RU servers and you quickly learn how much lead time you have to add to your shots to compensate for the lag. On my 1080P monitor I find its about half an inch...
[16:15:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Cloudy feature - 06You may Sleep Well Knowing the Wolfram Language Will Last - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:19] <exec> 08└─> From your quote it follows that a method/function can have an email that processes mail send to this address. This reads like a patent troll honeypot.
[16:15:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:WTF - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:48] <exec> 08└─I'm still amazed that OnStar hasn't been hacked. It's such a huge target with extremely broad reach.
[16:15:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WTF - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:50] <exec> 08└─I'm amazed that you think that On-Star hasn't been hacked.
[16:15:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:WTF - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:51] <exec> 08└─I think I would have heard if a few million vehicles got hit by constant ignition-kill commands. Hacked to track their GPS is not what I'm talking about. Hacked to cheaply piss off the US by blocking/snarling all traffic nationwide sounds like the kind of stuff most of our many victims must be day-d...
[16:16:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just getting ready to submit this story - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:07] <exec> 08└─This. The NSA isn't going to hack your car, except maybe to listen to your conversations via the OnStar-equivalent microphone. The guys who are going to kill you will be CIA, Mossad, or someone of that ilk.
[16:16:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Well, in some cases . . . - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:26] <exec> 08└─I thought something similar the first time I saw a big truck with one of those "Truck Nuts" [bullsballs.com] things on the trailer hitch. The following Christmas I gave one to my little brother as a joke. He drives a VW Golf. I asked him what response he got and he said funny looks because they hung...
[16:16:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Only a problem for the future - 06Emissions from Fossil Fuels may Limit Carbon Dating - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:47] <exec> 08└─I think its obvious what the big future fuel source will be and that is hydrogen. After all you can make it from sea water, its abundant all over our solar system so it'll be good for space travel, doesn't pollute, it just makes sense.
[16:16:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Only a problem for the future - 06Emissions from Fossil Fuels may Limit Carbon Dating - 642 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:48] <exec> 08└─Except this will NOT be a "problem" for future generations unless we nuke ourselves, because ever since the invention of the printing press (and later pictures and video) we have been documenting the shit out of everything so those researchers a thousand years from now should have no problem identif...
[16:17:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Duracell! - 06 Your Body, the Battery: Powering Gadgets from Human "Biofuel" - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:17:09] <exec> 08└─Sorry, didn't see your post before sending mine. But you are wrong. We are already in the Matrix, right now we are working on the recursion.
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[17:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02my common sense theory - 06Studies Find Genetic Signature of Native Australians in the Americas - 510 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:19] <exec> 08└─the peoples that came across the bering land bridge didn't ALL go across the bering land bridge. those people had the 'australian gene' before they ever went to australia. some ancient group of people dispersed themselves by land to the north and by sea to the west and south. some went across the la...
[17:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Multiple waves - 06Studies Find Genetic Signature of Native Australians in the Americas - 964 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:20] <exec> 08└─I thought it was pretty well established that the Americas were settled in multiple waves. I'm not going looking for links today, but I seem to recall that some select American tribes could be traced back to western Europe, many other to southern Asia, and a good number of others to Polynesian/South...
[17:13:29] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Stallman is correct - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 93 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:29] <exec> 08└─There isn't even a need to comment here because his quoted statement is already 100% correct.
[17:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:I usually find Stallman's positions too extreme - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:42] <exec> 08└─"Principled" is often just a more positive way of saying zealot. I'll taking pragmatists over zealots every time.
[17:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:I usually find Stallman's positions too extreme - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:43] <exec> 08└─Valuing ethics and freedom over physical safety/convenience isn't being a zealot, but if it was, then being a zealot would be good indeed. You're saying you'll accept people who will abandon you and your freedom at a moment's notice when it becomes convenient/safe over people who won't. You are sill...
[17:13:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:We've seen this far to often - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:48] <exec> 08└─And of course you won't be allowed to replace that proprietary, DRMed, spying-on-you software by Free, trustable software, for safety reasons. Assuming you'd actually manage to do it technically.
[17:13:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:We've seen this far to often - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 1305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:53] <exec> 08└─Don't do the field sobriety test. http://www.kansas-dui-attorney.com [kansas-dui-attorney.com] https://www.duiblog.com [duiblog.com] http://www.nbc29.com
[17:13:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:We've seen this far to often - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:55] <exec> 08└─What should we do instead? Subjective field sobriety tests don't work, but neither do hard limits that don't take into account differences between individuals.
[17:13:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:We've seen this far to often - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:57] <exec> 08└─Not to mention that calling Breathalyzers' output "Blood Alcohol Level" is a bold-faced lie. It's your Breath Alcohol Level. I'd like to see someone explain how they can get a number out of your blood without taking any of it.
[17:13:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:you lost me at "an open source toolkit" - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:58] <exec> 08└─No, he wasn't surprised that people make money with it. He was surprised that people use it for evil purposes. Now he wants a license that effectively says "You may not do evil things with this code." Of course, such a clause would be completely ineffective. I mean, how does he intend to enforce it?
[17:13:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Yeah. Whatever. - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:00] <exec> 08└─He vowed that his future projects will come with a license prohibiting use by "bad actors" - while admitting he doesn't know what such a license would look like.
[17:14:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marneus68 [3572] (Score:2) 02Licenses won't stop ANYONE - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 453 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:01] <exec> 08└─Okay guys, can we pause for a moment and think about that for half a second? Did anyone notice that these guys didn't have respect for any kind of licensing in the first place? Proprietary, open, free, you name it, from what we've already learned from the leaked informations they didn't give a singl...
[17:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03goodie [1877] (Score:2) 02If you're gonna do something bad to begin with... - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 561 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:03] <exec> 08└─Who, having some bad intentions to begin with, would read this licence and say "oh right I can't use that"? Second of all, the term "bad actors" is so vague that I'd be curious who's the judge of who is "bad" or "good". Once you release it, it's up to people to do whatever they want with it. I had a...
[17:14:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Battle between the Telcos and the Gov? - 06Australian Government Wants to Tell Telcos How to Do Security - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:14:13] <exec> 08└─Sure, they put some puppets in Congress and the White House as scapegoats^Wfigureheads, but we all know what's going on at this point.
[17:14:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Control group? - 06Astronauts' Skin Gets Thinner in Space, Scientists Say - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:14:36] <exec> 08└─> it's just too tempting to read it as "skin gets thinner *because of* space" But it is 100% correct too. Since humans don't wander outside of the ISS naked, "in space" is equivalent to "in the environment designed to sustain life and have a productive time in orbit". I don't know if I should be amu...
[17:14:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Emo-statements should at least be correct.... - 06Astronauts' Skin Gets Thinner in Space, Scientists Say - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:14:39] <exec> 08└─2. "cancer from space radiation"? - citation needed? It is known that cosmic radiation is causing other serious problems (brain fog being one), but cancer is kind of not it.
[17:14:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Emo-statements should at least be correct.... - 06Astronauts' Skin Gets Thinner in Space, Scientists Say - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:14:42] <exec> 08└─It is well known and confirmed by sufficiently many studies that any type of ionizing radiation can cause cancer.
[17:14:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Prepare for tears - 06 El Niño Intensifying, Could Rival Strongest in Recorded History - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:14:54] <exec> 08└─That would be funny if mudslides in California were exclusive to cliff-side dwellings, but they're not. All it takes is a shallow hill and a recent wildfire to create the conditions that'll wipe out the home of several non-rich people.
[17:15:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Another Bad Idea Looking To Be Exploited - 06Wi-Fi Aware Protocol Stakes Out Your Surroundings - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:07] <exec> 08└─This has already happened! Last night I was setting-up a new cell phone for my son (a ZTE Speed with Boost service to try out the Sprint network in our area) and it had a check box in one of the Android setup screens that said something like "Allow Wi-Fi to be used for location even when Wi-Fi is di...
[17:15:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03virens [5530] (Score:1) 02Re:Matlab language will last longer - 06You may Sleep Well Knowing the Wolfram Language Will Last - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:46] <exec> 08└─Because it has an open-source implementation in Octave.
[17:16:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WTF - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:11] <exec> 08└─Why The Fuck do we need our vehicles to connect to internet/wifi? cheese and crackers!
[17:16:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Just getting ready to submit this story - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 1128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:24] <exec> 08└─Yea, they had some weird transmissions out there. I have seen a large Mack LR, an off highway truck converted to a heavy haul tractor, with a torque converter and no clutch. A rocker switch on the floor allowed you to break torque to shift the 10 speed two stick transmission (5 main gears and two co...
[17:17:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Only a problem for the future - 06Emissions from Fossil Fuels may Limit Carbon Dating - 1120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:08] <exec> 08└─Nope. All that remains to be done to make it a good energy SOURCE is to work out a way to make it that doesn't consume more energy than burning the hydrogen will produce. Which is physically impossible. Hydrogen has potential as an efficient energy STORAGE medium, assuming the difficulties in actual...
[17:17:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02better question - 06Emissions from Fossil Fuels may Limit Carbon Dating - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:11] <exec> 08└─how can we trust carbon dating at all? who knows how much carbon or CO2 was in the atmo 100k years ago...
[17:17:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Duracell! - 06 Your Body, the Battery: Powering Gadgets from Human "Biofuel" - 2394 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:33] <exec> 08└─Please don't bring up the Matrix, those could have been so good if they wouldn't have botched the second and third. The bitch is I read an article "fan solutions that make more sense than the original" that if they would have simply adopted it would have fixed most of the problems with 2 and 3. Put...
[17:17:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Duracell! - 06 Your Body, the Battery: Powering Gadgets from Human "Biofuel" - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:35] <exec> 08└─Please don't bring up the Matrix, those could have been so good if they wouldn't have botched the second and third.
[17:17:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Duracell! - 06 Your Body, the Battery: Powering Gadgets from Human "Biofuel" - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:37] <exec> 08└─Obligatory xkcd [xkcd.com]...
[17:17:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:Duracell! - 06 Your Body, the Battery: Powering Gadgets from Human "Biofuel" - 447 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:39] <exec> 08└─"I sure as hell ain't gonna want to have surgery just so I can charge them as I breathe." Come on, where's your sense of adventure? It's the latest and greatest thing out there! </sarcasm> I definitely agree with you on the Matrix bit. So many things could have been done with third movie that could...
[17:17:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Still no reference to Matrix??? - 06 Your Body, the Battery: Powering Gadgets from Human "Biofuel" - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:41] <exec> 08└─You haven't been looking hard enough. [soylentnews.org]
[17:17:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Weapons - 06America's Tweaks to Weapons Trade Pact 'Will Make Web Less Secure' - 605 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:56] <exec> 08└─Uhh that really isn't so outrageous considering the US military was using Playstations for a supercomputer [cnn.com]. Just to play devil's advocate here (as I am a big proponent of free speech) there is a lot of nasty applications that require a lot of computing power, from coming up with working at...
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[18:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Interesting - 063D Scanning Deciphers Ancient Hebrew Scroll - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:19] <exec> 08└─Now, you also need to use a mortar and pestle to truly destroy that secret document you just burned. Good to know.
[18:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:2) 02Re:Interesting - 063D Scanning Deciphers Ancient Hebrew Scroll - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:20] <exec> 08└─I just eat them. Secrets taste goooood.
[18:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:2) 02The dead sea scrools had one made of copper... - 063D Scanning Deciphers Ancient Hebrew Scroll - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:23] <exec> 08└─they didn't unroll it, they cut it open. So this kind of scanning is an improvement. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] It was mostly copper with some tin, no word on if it was officially RoHS compliant.
[18:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02"Modern technology" - 063D Scanning Deciphers Ancient Hebrew Scroll - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:24] <exec> 08└─It would have been nice - given the reasonably expected inclinations of the usual readership here - to have seen the techniques used described using more words than just "modern technology" in the summary. Spoiler alert: it was done with X-rays. Copying-and-pasting the opening paragraphs of an artic...
[18:13:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:Stallman is correct - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:49] <exec> 08└─It *is* about software freedom though. This code is being used to create exploits. It's being used specifically to ensure that some other user does not have control or freedom over their own hardware and software. They're using the letter of open source licenses to violate the spirit of them.
[18:13:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:GPLv3 Should Be Good Enough - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:55] <exec> 08└─> By extension I would argue that since the Hacking Team software runs on devices they do not own, they would already be in violation of GPLv2. Unless they tivoized it.
[18:13:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:I usually find Stallman's positions too extreme - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:00] <exec> 08└─The matter is about freedom first and foremost.
[18:14:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03draconx [4649] (Score:2) 02Re:I usually find Stallman's positions too extreme - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:01] <exec> 08└─In this instance, I think he is 100% correct - but for the wrong reasons. The truth of the matter is that, if we have free software (using Stallman's definition of that term), then we cannot prevent it from being used in ways that we do not agree with.
[18:14:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:We've seen this far to often - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 521 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:12] <exec> 08└─> What should we do instead? Subjective field sobriety tests don't work, What is a "subjective field sobriety test?" Because it seems to me that a test that measures impairment regardless of the cause of impairment should be entirely feasible. Something like a modern version of walking a straight li...
[18:14:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Licenses won't stop ANYONE - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 708 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:19] <exec> 08└─> Okay guys, can we pause for a moment and think about that for half a second? Did anyone notice that these guys didn't have respect for any kind of licensing in the first place? Really? I knew they were cool with building frameworks that singled out innocent people for torture and execution at the...
[18:14:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02BipCot No-Government License - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:21] <exec> 08└─Sounds like Collin Mulliner should have considered licensing the software under the BipCot [bipcot.org] no-government license. This is a derivation of the BSD 3-Clause license with references to copyright removed, and this clause added: "Governments, and agents and subcontractors of same, are not...
[18:14:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02I hope it beats mine... - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 814 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:22] <exec> 08└─I hope he comes up with something better than the "Peaceful State Public License" [bsflowers.net] I threw together on a whim a few months back...basically it's a fork of GPL 3 with a few minor tweaks. Yeah, it disagrees with Stallman and it's not techincally open source anymore. But I don't really c...
[18:14:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Re:Solution for a problem - 06Astronauts' Skin Gets Thinner in Space, Scientists Say - 460 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:48] <exec> 08└─Many innovations created for the space programs benefit us on Earth. From edible Toothpaste to memory foam mattresses, water treatment technology, and TV satellites. Nearly everything done in the name of enabling space exploration benefits all humans. Now let's re-examine this statement: Bone de-ca...
[18:16:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:Desperation - 06You may Sleep Well Knowing the Wolfram Language Will Last - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:00] <exec> 08└─There's a hidden story there about summer and sun and healthy/healthier nerds :D
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[19:13:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Calling all lawyers! - 06NASA Robotic Servicing Demonstrations Continue Onboard the Space Station - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:18] <exec> 08└─So, when you launch a new bird, it either blows up (launch insurance pays), fails to work in orbit (talk to manufacturer) or works... But when you go service a commercial bird in orbit, and it fails (instantly, or even a bit later), how many lawyers will get involved to figure out who's got to pony...
[19:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Calling all lawyers! - 06NASA Robotic Servicing Demonstrations Continue Onboard the Space Station - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:20] <exec> 08└─http://space.stackexchange.com/questions/6567/how-much-of-a-commercial-space-launch-can-be-insured [stackexchange.com]
[19:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Interesting - 063D Scanning Deciphers Ancient Hebrew Scroll - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:29] <exec> 08└─I'm readying a shipment of arsenic-laden paper written with lead paint. What's the postal address of ISIS's headquarters?
[19:13:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Modern technology" - 063D Scanning Deciphers Ancient Hebrew Scroll - 5 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:32] <exec> 08└─This.
[19:13:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:"Modern technology" - 063D Scanning Deciphers Ancient Hebrew Scroll - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:34] <exec> 08└─Agreed - but we have so few submissions we are having to rely on story scrapes to provide stories.
[19:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:"Modern technology" - 063D Scanning Deciphers Ancient Hebrew Scroll - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:35] <exec> 08└─Er, the title says '3D scanning'.
[19:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Nonsense - 063D Scanning Deciphers Ancient Hebrew Scroll - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:37] <exec> 08└─Are these the same 'carbon dating' techniques that identify dinosaur fossils as being millions of years old? And these scientists think they can use this jiggery-pokery to authenticate the age of a piece of scripture? Ridiculous.
[19:13:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:my common sense theory - 06Studies Find Genetic Signature of Native Australians in the Americas - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:45] <exec> 08└─No doubt it was the 1% of their time fleeing high taxes.
[19:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:my common sense theory - 06Studies Find Genetic Signature of Native Australians in the Americas - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:46] <exec> 08└─yeah, just 1% that went on to populate the half the world. get your head out your ass.
[19:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Stallman is correct - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 501 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:05] <exec> 08└─That's the problem with rules: The have to be written in letters, not good intentions. Maybe it would be possible to have some attribution clause to some software which requires an explicit display of the used software whenever the SW (or any derivative) is started. For a trojan it might be difficul...
[19:14:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:GPLv3 Should Be Good Enough - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:11] <exec> 08└─Additionally if they're distributing the software itself, for GPL they're suppose to be making an offer for the original software readily available. (This would include to the victims if the code they're using on the victim's machines are part of the GPLed code.) If they aren't, then this should be...
[19:14:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I usually find Stallman's positions too extreme - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:16] <exec> 08└─You're saying you'll accept people who will abandon you and your freedom at a moment's notice when it becomes convenient/safe over people who won't. You are silly.
[19:14:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I usually find Stallman's positions too extreme - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:18] <exec> 08└─The less principled will argue about practical matters, but if the situation changes, so too will their opinion.
[19:14:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lunix Nutcase [3913] (Score:2) 02Re:I usually find Stallman's positions too extreme - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:20] <exec> 08└─Principled people often appear ludicrous to those less principles. The less principled will argue about practical matters, but if the situation changes, so too will their opinion.
[19:14:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lunix Nutcase [3913] (Score:2) 02Re:We've seen this far to often - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:33] <exec> 08└─And why would the very customers of Hacking Team pass laws that would outlaw Hacking Team's software?
[19:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:Yeah. Whatever. - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:38] <exec> 08└─Yup [wikipedia.org]. You might have to squint a little to see it, though.
[19:14:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lunix Nutcase [3913] (Score:2) 02Re:BipCot No-Government License - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:43] <exec> 08└─And its effectiveness against governments has been proven where exactly? Why would the government care when they are the ones who write and enforce the copyright laws?
[19:14:52] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] 02Every time I see something like this... - 06Australian Government Wants to Tell Telcos How to Do Security - 222 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:53] <exec> 08└─... I imagine someone demanding a window that's unbreakable except by one specific brand of crowbar. And then I remember that people in power don't understand that that's exactly what they're demanding, and I get very sad.
[19:15:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Daiv [3940] (Score:2) 02Re:Solution for a problem - 06Astronauts' Skin Gets Thinner in Space, Scientists Say - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:13] <exec> 08└─Whoooosh! Please go read The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. It'll make you a better person.
[19:16:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:WTF - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:16:54] <exec> 08└─Or he confuses software engineering with computer engineering.
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[20:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score:2) 02They deserve each other. - 06FCC Near Approval of AT&T-DirecTV Deal - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:18] <exec> 08└─AT&T and DirecTV are two of the worst companies I know. It's a match made in hell.
[20:13:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:"Modern technology" - 063D Scanning Deciphers Ancient Hebrew Scroll - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:45] <exec> 08└─True, but there again it's a) still just two words (if "3D" is a word) and b) summaries should have more information than the headline, not less.
[20:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:"Modern technology" - 063D Scanning Deciphers Ancient Hebrew Scroll - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:47] <exec> 08└─Yes, 3D is a word. http://www.merriam-webster.com [merriam-webster.com] Though, to be fair according to Webster it should be "3-D". I suspect it was shorthand for Three Dimensional. Though, who actually first started using the shorthand 3D is beyond me, but they were probably in mark...
[20:13:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score:2) 02Re:"Modern technology" - 063D Scanning Deciphers Ancient Hebrew Scroll - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:49] <exec> 08└─Doesn't there need to be some motivation to read TFA, instead of just TFS?
[20:13:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score:1) 02Re:Nonsense - 063D Scanning Deciphers Ancient Hebrew Scroll - 695 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:51] <exec> 08└─Are these the same 'carbon dating' techniques that identify dinosaur fossils as being millions of years old? And these scientists think they can use this jiggery-pokery to authenticate the age of a piece of scripture? Ridiculous. I would be absolutely fascinated to know which carbon dating technique...
[20:13:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:Nonsense - 063D Scanning Deciphers Ancient Hebrew Scroll - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:53] <exec> 08└─Dang! At least I learned something, thanks.
[20:13:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score:1) 02Technique used is probably... - 063D Scanning Deciphers Ancient Hebrew Scroll - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:54] <exec> 08└─This one: Paywalled: http://www.nature.com [nature.com] "Revealing letters in rolled Herculaneum papyri by X-ray phase-contrast imaging" Not paywallwd: http://www.rsc.org
[20:13:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03RobotMonster [130] (Score:2) 02And the scroll said... - 063D Scanning Deciphers Ancient Hebrew Scroll - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:57] <exec> 08└─All characters appearing in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.
[20:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03ese002 [5306] (Score:1) 02Re:Multiple waves - 06Studies Find Genetic Signature of Native Australians in the Americas - 414 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:04] <exec> 08└─Considering how widely traveled the Polynesians were, it should surprise no one that they might have carried genes from around the world. What else would you expect from island hoppers? Many of them went out - and never came back. Others went out on the sea, and didn't come back for years. You can b...
[20:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Stallman is correct - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:24] <exec> 08└─Here's a longer essay by rms why this is important https://gnu.org [gnu.org]
[20:14:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I usually find Stallman's positions too extreme - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:36] <exec> 08└─Your response doesn't even make sense, because slavery is completely offtopic. I could just as easily say that you must accept someone who thinks that slavery is good because it's somehow beneficial.
[20:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I usually find Stallman's positions too extreme - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 509 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:38] <exec> 08└─Because many principles are based on subjective values, not hard data. I value my freedom of privacy over any protection mass surveillance could provide, even if mass surveillance did provide safety. If you want to know what the problem is, it's that these people aren't truly your friends. One day t...
[20:14:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I usually find Stallman's positions too extreme - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:41] <exec> 08└─Never questioning your beliefs and principles is not a good quality.
[20:14:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:1) 02Re:I usually find Stallman's positions too extreme - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:43] <exec> 08└─"Principled" doesn't mean "never questioning your principles." In fact, principled people usually arrive at their principles by questioning in the first place. That's why they hang on so tightly to what survives the questioning.
[20:17:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just getting ready to submit this story - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:17:35] <exec> 08└─On June 18, 2013, Hastings died in a single-vehicle automobile crash in his Mercedes C250 Coupé at approximately 4:25 a.m. in the Hancock Park neighborhood of Los Angeles.[53] A witness to the crash said the car seemed to be traveling at maximum speed and was creating sparks and flames before it fi...
[20:17:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just getting ready to submit this story - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 711 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:17:42] <exec> 08└─This is my worst fears about self-driving cars coming true a decade or two early. Imagine how easy it would be to get control or just spoof an update server just as so many have done before. Some exceptionally evil person could easily push a firmware update to all automated cars and tell them to tur...
[20:17:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Electromagnetic pulse immunity - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:17:49] <exec> 08└─You'll need something older than that--something with a generator (think: alternator diodes). Of course, as WOPR's simulation[1] showed us, there are no winners in a nuclear exchange. If it comes to that, kiss your ass goodbye. [1] ...and "On the Beach", decades before that. -- gewg_
[20:17:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Electromagnetic pulse immunity - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:17:51] <exec> 08└─On the Beach is a great book, you should read it.
[20:20:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Totalitarian zealots - 06Islamic State Is Restricting Internet Access in Its Capital City - 556 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:20:45] <exec> 08└─Surrounded by Muslim enemies. A constant power struggle ensues in this world; which violent religion can claim their god is superior by being the last one standing. ALL sides want annihilation of the others not co-existence. Nothing short of it will satisfy these people. Annihilation IS what they'll...
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[21:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:3, Informative) 02Oh..sure, ATT's word is it's bond. - 06FCC Near Approval of AT&T-DirecTV Deal - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:20] <exec> 08└─ATT has made lots of money making promises that it waffles out of or blatantly ignores: http://www.dslreports.com [dslreports.com] http://www.dslreports.com
[21:13:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Note the wording - 06FCC Near Approval of AT&T-DirecTV Deal - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:21] <exec> 08└─If the conditions are approved by my colleagues, 12.5 million customer locations will have access to a competitive high-speed fiber connection.
[21:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrchew1982 [3565] (Score:2) 02Re:"Modern technology" - 063D Scanning Deciphers Ancient Hebrew Scroll - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:50] <exec> 08└─Technically a CT scan or a CAT scan uses x-rays from multiple angles to create a 3 dimensional image. An MRI uses magnetic fields to do the same thing. So it is both a 3d scan and an x-ray, or rather a series of x-rays.
[21:13:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03meisterister [949] (Score:2) 02Re:Nonsense - 063D Scanning Deciphers Ancient Hebrew Scroll - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:55] <exec> 08└─Maybe a better application of the technology would be to determine the age of the phrase "jiggery-pokery"
[21:14:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:How it got there - 06Studies Find Genetic Signature of Native Australians in the Americas - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:06] <exec> 08└─See, my hypothesis relates to some visitors engaging in a practice an Aussie I met on a train called "wombating": Eats, roots, and leaves.
[21:14:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lunix Nutcase [3913] (Score:2) 02Re:I usually find Stallman's positions too extreme - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:47] <exec> 08└─I never said that you should never question your beliefs. All I said was that principled people don't always base their arguments on practical matters, and instead often base them on their own subjective values (as in, someone might value freedom over safety).
[21:14:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I usually find Stallman's positions too extreme - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:48] <exec> 08└─But that isn't really questioning your beliefs then.
[21:14:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I usually find Stallman's positions too extreme - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:51] <exec> 08└─"Principled" doesn't mean "never questioning your principles."
[21:14:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I usually find Stallman's positions too extreme - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:53] <exec> 08└─I believe the point is not prevention, but recourse. Even if he could not stop this situation from occurring, he could sue the hacking team people now, had such clause existed in the license of their copy.
[21:15:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:We've seen this far to often - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:15:04] <exec> 08└─What is a "subjective field sobriety test?"
[21:15:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Spaceship carrying the least-useful beings - 06Astronauts' Skin Gets Thinner in Space, Scientists Say - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:15:38] <exec> 08└─Here's the way Douglas Adams referenced that: The B Ark [google.com] -- gewg_
[21:16:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Prepare for tears - 06 El Niño Intensifying, Could Rival Strongest in Recorded History - 635 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:16:06] <exec> 08└─I live in California. There is a hill near here that's not particularly scary looking. It slid and took out several houses. There are other hills and yes, even houses leaning over cliffs that look scary. They've been there since the 40s or 50s, some of them. It's all about the soil. You really can'...
[21:17:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:As opposed to.. - 06Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on Highway - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:17:54] <exec> 08└─Sounds like you are an equal-opportunity bigot.
[21:18:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:better question - 06Emissions from Fossil Fuels may Limit Carbon Dating - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:18:27] <exec> 08└─because we have ice cores... https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
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[22:13:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Ever SUCKED your own PENIS? - 06 Nokia Write-down Leads Microsoft to Record $3.2b Loss On $22.2b Revenue - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:17] <exec> 08└─nuttin here
[22:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Value? - 06 Nokia Write-down Leads Microsoft to Record $3.2b Loss On $22.2b Revenue - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:19] <exec> 08└─Does MS offer the market much value anymore? Nobody has genuinely enjoyed a Windows upgrade since XP-sp1 and Office hasn't really improved either. I, for one, wouldn't be upset to see them fold. (Maybe that would become the year of Linux on the Desktop?)
[22:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03skullz [2532] (Score:2) 02Transition year - 06 Nokia Write-down Leads Microsoft to Record $3.2b Loss On $22.2b Revenue - 800 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:20] <exec> 08└─I see the next 12 months as a transition year for Microsoft. Not many people are upgrading their PCs because they don't have to and why would you upgrade your Office if you don't upgrade your PC? The 365 subscriptions are growing, their Azure cloud business is kicking butt, even the Surface is final...
[22:13:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Transition year - 06 Nokia Write-down Leads Microsoft to Record $3.2b Loss On $22.2b Revenue - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:22] <exec> 08└─Meanwhile the internet generation is getting older, and enough people will eventually be pointing out how most administrative positions can get all their needs covered for free, as long as the company is small enough to not need a major database tool.
[22:14:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Good condition? - 063D Scanning Deciphers Ancient Hebrew Scroll - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:05] <exec> 08└─>>The Dead Sea Scrolls, dating from between around 408 BC to 308 AD, however, were in good condition. Better condition - yes. Good condition - not so much. Unless you think a gazzillion piece jigsaw puzzle is fun. Some of the scrolls are in reasonable condition for their age. Others are a mess and w...
[22:14:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:my common sense theory - 06Studies Find Genetic Signature of Native Australians in the Americas - 423 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:19] <exec> 08└─Not likely. That doesn't fit what is known from genetic studies. Australia was peopled a long time ago, before the folks who populated northern Asia arrived. I still think there's room for an early trans-Pacific migration route. It's just hard to fit into the combination of the archaeological record...
[22:14:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:my common sense theory - 06Studies Find Genetic Signature of Native Australians in the Americas - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:20] <exec> 08└─So, if they came over the Bering land bridge, why are they clustered in South America, rather than evenly dispersed across the New World?
[22:14:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] 02I usually find Stallman's positions too extreme - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 847 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:47] <exec> 08└─Normally, I think Stallman takes a good idea, and applies it in such a broad way that it becomes ludicrous. In this instance, I think he is 100% correct - but for the wrong reasons. The truth of the matter is that, if we have free software (using Stallman's definition of that term), then we cannot p...
[22:16:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:Emo-statements should at least be correct.... - 06Astronauts' Skin Gets Thinner in Space, Scientists Say - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:16:06] <exec> 08└─Yes, these are just all things the human body is doing to adjust to living in space. None of them are a problem. Until you want to return to earth, that is.
[22:16:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:Mudslides. - 06 El Niño Intensifying, Could Rival Strongest in Recorded History - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:16:22] <exec> 08└─But then, California agribusiness grows almonds in the desert, then complains when there's no fucking water left, so I doubt there's much hope there.
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[23:13:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Definitions - 06Robot Surgeons Kill 144 Patients, Hurt 1,391, Malfunction 8,061 Times - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:13:21] <exec> 08└─As to the 1.7 million number, what constitutes "robo-operations"? I know a surgical tech and at her position it is marked as assisted if they use enhanced scalpels. I understand that means ones that vibrate at high frequency or have a passive arm to mitigate the possibility of a surgeon's twitch cau...
[23:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:2) 02Re:Definitions - 06Robot Surgeons Kill 144 Patients, Hurt 1,391, Malfunction 8,061 Times - 510 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:23] <exec> 08└─RTFA, they have some pretty specific attributions to the cause of death and injury, so it appears that it is actually mechanized equipment, rather than scalpels operated the old fashioned way. It appears that the attribution in those cases is mostly pretty well established, so it's not a matter of t...
[23:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score:3, Informative) 02They are also maximally wasteful - 06Robot Surgeons Kill 144 Patients, Hurt 1,391, Malfunction 8,061 Times - 861 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:13:25] <exec> 08└─daVinci has a DRM element in every attachment. You use five attachments for each abdominal/pelvic operation (four arms + camera). Almost every other item in a surgical suite is aggressively cleaned/autoclaved and reused, but daVinci allows a total of 10 mounts of each attachment before it's scrap. W...
[23:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:They are also maximally wasteful - 06Robot Surgeons Kill 144 Patients, Hurt 1,391, Malfunction 8,061 Times - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:26] <exec> 08└─Where's the free market? Oh, right, medical devices are highly regulated by the FDA creating a barrier to entry.
[23:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''since XP-sp1'' - 06 Nokia Write-down Leads Microsoft to Record $3.2b Loss On $22.2b Revenue - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:35] <exec> 08└─I resolved not to give any more $$$ or mindshare to M$ as soon as I heard about Product Activation. So, 1 step before you first barfed on MICROS~1's brokenness|purposeful difficulty. Of course, I already had a gratis and libre solution which allowed me to use my install media on as many boxes as I l...
[23:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Re:Value? - 06 Nokia Write-down Leads Microsoft to Record $3.2b Loss On $22.2b Revenue - 1108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:37] <exec> 08└─I know it's fashionable to hate on Windows because Microsoft is an unethical company with a lot of bad products in their history, but from a purely technical perspective they have made improvements in the last ten years. Windows 7 became a fine OS. Almost all of my complaints with 8.1 have been fixe...
[23:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Value? - 06 Nokia Write-down Leads Microsoft to Record $3.2b Loss On $22.2b Revenue - 406 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:38] <exec> 08└─and the only reason Windows is as stable as it is, is because of linux: with the blue screen of death, etc of winxp and previous, businesses were going to MS sales people and saying "why can't we have THAT... stability and security. that is what we want." If that hadn't happened, MS would have kept...
[23:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Value? - 06 Nokia Write-down Leads Microsoft to Record $3.2b Loss On $22.2b Revenue - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:40] <exec> 08└─Nobody has genuinely enjoyed a Windows upgrade since XP-sp1
[23:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Transition year - 06 Nokia Write-down Leads Microsoft to Record $3.2b Loss On $22.2b Revenue - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:42] <exec> 08└─Yes, while also completely and utterly giving up on sense of privacy or security for your business data.
[23:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02It's the 'Steve's fault' earnings report - 06 Nokia Write-down Leads Microsoft to Record $3.2b Loss On $22.2b Revenue - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:13:43] <exec> 08└─The new guy knows he only gets one of those, so he and his aides shovelled everything they could into it.
[23:13:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Office has always been a main revenue engine - 06 Nokia Write-down Leads Microsoft to Record $3.2b Loss On $22.2b Revenue - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:13:46] <exec> 08└─Sounds like LibreOffice could use a big marketing campaign. It's the better product, completely free and even gratis. https://libreoffice.org [libreoffice.org]
[23:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02MSFT Has Biggest-Ever Quarterly Loss - 06 Nokia Write-down Leads Microsoft to Record $3.2b Loss On $22.2b Revenue - 537 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:13:47] <exec> 08└─from the get-used-to-that-downward-trend dept. I had El Reg's coverage in my personal queue but Phoenix666 got this into the S/N queue before I did. Redmond's monopoly has been broken. These days, you can just get someone's hand-me-down box and run Linux on it. $0 outlay for software; you might even...
[23:15:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I usually find Stallman's positions too extreme - 06Security Researcher Wants a Free Sofware License That Shuts Hacking Team Out - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:15:17] <exec> 08└─you say pragmatists, i say common street hookers
[23:17:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Finish it - 06Wi-Fi Aware Protocol Stakes Out Your Surroundings - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:17:04] <exec> 08└─We might as well just take the idea to its logical extreme and allow full permissions execution of any code that anyone bothers to broadcast/send to your device. It began with the Java applet and ends in hellfire. Hellfire.js.
[23:17:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Re:Cloudy feature - 06You may Sleep Well Knowing the Wolfram Language Will Last - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:17:37] <exec> 08└─So if I understand correctly, you have to forward all your emails to Wolfram in order to use this feature.
[23:19:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02To be expected - 06Emissions from Fossil Fuels may Limit Carbon Dating - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:19:09] <exec> 08└─Looks like someone at the BBC has no clue how radio-carbon dating works at all.
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