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[00:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:4, Insightful) 02It's a blight - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 1146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:13:24] <exec> 08└─Advertising is a blight on the internet and in media as general; most of the data collection done by corporate entities is all in attempt to make advertising more effective, more targeted. Furthermore, media creators bend to serve advertisers; just look at reddit's recent spat with "accepted content...
[00:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:It's a blight - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:13:26] <exec> 08└─I honestly won't be surprised if a lot of thought that went into both Slashdot Beta, and its current "enhancements" is a ploy to try and increase the amount of ad revenue they can get
[00:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02NPR - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:13:27] <exec> 08└─My local public radio station got bought out by APM, and now it spends about half the air time bitching, moaning, begging for donation. To the point that I now listen more AM talk/sport raido stations than the so-called "ad-free" NPR.
[00:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Google search sucks now - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:13:29] <exec> 08└─And the global warming is the culprit. Fuck Google/global shits.
[00:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02let us put it this way. - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:13:31] <exec> 08└─Is it morally justifiable to advertise? Well. That depends on if you are taking advertising for Hillary or Bernie Sanders. In the former, you represent the 1%, and it is morally vapid. In the latter, your advertising is likely a donation for a cause you believe in, and is commendable.
[00:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Spamalope [5233] (Score:1) 02Messaging is moving to social networking - 06Spam Rate Dropping Below 50% for the First Time in 12 Years - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:13:45] <exec> 08└─Email is less relevant since social networking and smart phones are filling many roles email used to, so it's a less appealing target.
[00:15:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03splodus [4877] 02Really? Are people still buying this? - 06Mars One Details Next Rounds of Colonist Selection Process - 101 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:15:51] <exec> 08└─https://medium.com/matter/mars-one-insider-quits-dangerously-flawed-project-2dfef95217d3 [medium.com]
[00:15:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03cosurgi [272] (Score:2) 02Re:Really? Are people still buying this? - 06Mars One Details Next Rounds of Colonist Selection Process - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:15:53] <exec> 08└─True, as much as I love the idea to colonize Mars (see my sig), the "Mars one" is a scam. They took a lot of money and didn't even talk with spaceship industry about which ship they would supposedly use. Heck, they just take money and do nothing.
[00:16:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:so what are the rest of them? - 06New Horizons Spurs New Calls to Make Pluto a Planet Once Again - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:16:47] <exec> 08└─Every book and paper written before 2006 refers to it as a planet
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[01:13:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I used Plutonium on sophomore physics lab - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:13:11] <exec> 08└─Neutron activation of silver, also known as neutron fluorescence. At the time anyone could possess up to one gram provided you handled it properly. For a good time, drive around with a calibration set in plain sight on your passenger seat.
[01:13:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:I used Plutonium on sophomore physics lab - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:13] <exec> 08└─For a good time, drive around with a calibration set in plain sight on your passenger seat.
[01:13:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02He is a "researcher" - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:13:14] <exec> 08└─Given that he is a researcher, is the use of the banned substance reasonable?
[01:13:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:He is a "researcher" - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:16] <exec> 08└─A quick trip to Wikipedia suggests that it can be used as a recreational drug, and Russia has it classified as a "psychotropic substance". Honestly, my guess is a narcotics dog located when it was in customs processing, or the seller was flagging in a Russian database.
[01:13:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:He is a "researcher" - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:17] <exec> 08└─Given that he is a researcher, is the use of the banned substance reasonable?
[01:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Crap Weekend Editing - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:13:19] <exec> 08└─Ask yourself: what's TFS missing?
[01:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02A solar battery researcher? Or a drug manufacturer - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:13:21] <exec> 08└─The chemical in question appears to be a precursor for a recreational drug, which is probably why it's banned in Russia. See further down the Wikipedia article: https://en.m.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] I further point out the note on home synthesis kits, t...
[01:13:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What's missing: Why GBL is banned - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:13:22] <exec> 08└─What's missing from the summary is the reason why GBL is banned. Wikipedia has the reason: GBL is a prodrug of GHB and its recreational use comes entirely as a result of this. To bypass GHB restriction laws, home synthesis kits were introduced to transform GBL and/or 1,4-B into GHB.
[01:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What's missing: Why GBL is banned - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:24] <exec> 08└─The idea that a substance is banned just because it can be converted to a recreational drug is just dumb.
[01:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:You bring this up at a bad time - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 589 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:38] <exec> 08└─On the IE front, your probably dealing with something injecting itself as a COM object (also known as "Browser Helper Option" when dealing with IE). Unfortunately, there's no easy way to see what has hooked into wininet with stock Windows tools. Best thing you can do is change the key in the registr...
[01:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02Re:The United States has it's own propaganda - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:39] <exec> 08└─Great argument for Bernie Sanders, 2016.
[01:13:41] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03NCommander [2] 02It's a blight - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 1146 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:13:41] <exec> 08└─Advertising is a blight on the internet and in media as general; most of the data collection done by corporate entities is all in attempt to make advertising more effective, more targeted. Furthermore, media creators bend to serve advertisers; just look at reddit's recent spat with "accepted content...
[01:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:It's a blight - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 1284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:44] <exec> 08└─I still occasionally check Slashdot, and I've found the most recent changes are actually worse than beta; honestly, what pissed me off was their response to the "audience", combined with a completely dysfunctional commenting system. For those reading this comment and weren't there for beta, the new...
[01:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03acp_sn [5254] (Score:1) 02augmented reality is the answer - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 408 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:13:48] <exec> 08└─the technology is almost to the point where we can have adblock in meatspace no more billboards, bus wraps, logos, posters, or excessive attention grabbing signage what a glorious time it will be to be able to walk down a city street without being assaulted by people who think they have the right to...
[01:13:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:augmented reality is the answer - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:49] <exec> 08└─Yes. But unless you cover your face, they will still know you.
[01:13:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02There is far too much online advertising - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 1162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:13:51] <exec> 08└─Im not saying this because I find it annoying. Im saying this because there are far too many websites that monetize through advertising. I am concerned this could kead to economic collapse. Many websites are costly to operate. Ultimately someone has to pay real money for a product ir service. Amazon...
[01:13:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:There is far too much online advertising - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 1152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:52] <exec> 08└─I've described SoylentNews's business model to quite a few MBAs, and I've been told it wouldn't work. I've been laughing at the irony for the last year. SomethingAwful basically runs off a similar model that we do, with the exception of requiring pay-to-post. They're still alive and kicking. For sma...
[01:13:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03hurwitz [4938] (Score:1) 02Crapvertisement - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 1360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:13:54] <exec> 08└─I don't think paying people will defeat adblockers. Disable your adblocker and receive $0.000X per ad impression? I doubt that will work; most people don't understand how valuable their data/screen-face-time is. Facebook makes dumptrucks of cash on the arbitrage between how much people think their a...
[01:14:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score:2) 02Re:Well, except at Gmail - 06Spam Rate Dropping Below 50% for the First Time in 12 Years - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:14:06] <exec> 08└─It's always catching mailing list messages and letting through actual spam.
[01:14:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Messaging is moving to social networking - 06Spam Rate Dropping Below 50% for the First Time in 12 Years - 616 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:14:11] <exec> 08└─You saved me from having to log in to post what you said; there is less spam because email is too hard for some people that have an entire screen of facebook to deal with. I know those types; I have been told email is too hard. I've also been told only old people use email and its at work. The smart...
[01:15:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02We're all gonna get laid! - 06Global Warming Has Shifted Earth's Axis - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:15:06] <exec> 08└─kill the gopher...
[01:16:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Assertion based discussion - 06Can We Build a Truly Free Speech System? - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:16:04] <exec> 08└─The problem with commenting on articles (Soylent, Slash, Pipe...) is the discussion goes stale in a few days. I picture a topic based tree of assertions which can be debated essentially forever, or at least until consensus emerges.
[01:16:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:There is nothing to report - 06Ask SN: Best Way to Report a Major Security Problem at a Cellular Carrier? - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:16:33] <exec> 08└─Wow! Your are one angry and bitter person. I hope never to meet you in person, but still I hope life gets better for you.
[01:16:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Which one? - 06Ask SN: Best Way to Report a Major Security Problem at a Cellular Carrier? - 1429 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:16:51] <exec> 08└─Since you will not out them here. Here are the 4 numbers you might call. But these may not be right because it may be an MVNO in which case it will be harder. at&t 1 (800) 331-0500 t-mobile 1-800-T-MOBILE verizon 1 (800) 922-0204 sprint 866-866-7509 You may even be able to dial a # number right from...
[01:16:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I tried to call 6-1-1 to report a fiber cut - 06Ask SN: Best Way to Report a Major Security Problem at a Cellular Carrier? - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:16:52] <exec> 08└─but I was unable to because the fiber had been cut. http://www.warplife.com [warplife.com] at the time I was concerned America was under attack but now I figure it was just some agd hippies trying to keep a lid on rentalmprices.
[01:17:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03el_oscuro [1711] (Score:2) 02Re:so what are the rest of them? - 06New Horizons Spurs New Calls to Make Pluto a Planet Once Again - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:17:17] <exec> 08└─It's real simple: Pluto was discovered in 1930 using technology from that time. The others weren’t.
[01:18:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Nuclear Talos was available in Vietnam - 06Atomic Bomb Test Marks 70th Birthday Amid Renewed Interest - 706 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:18:52] <exec> 08└─Dad never mentioned it but there is a retired Talos missile fire control officer who was wriitten up in The Columbian here in Vancouver. He was given that assignment because he had a degree in IIRC health physics. I declined the NROTC scholarship because the officer who interviewed me suggested I wo...
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[02:13:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:He is a "researcher" - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:17] <exec> 08└─So he is a drug dealer that got caught.
[02:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:He is a "researcher" - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:18] <exec> 08└─Considering that Russia's economy has been largely growing thanks to oil and gas exports, it is not out of the question that his work upset someone powerful.
[02:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03_1156277 [5139] (Score:1) 02Re:What's missing: Why GBL is banned - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:24] <exec> 08└─It's the same as banning the recreational drug itself. And for GBL, it's so easy to convert to GHB that it can be done with only baking soda, a steel cooking pot, water, and a stove top. In fact, it can be ingested directly and converted in-vivo to GHB.
[02:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:What's missing: Why GBL is banned - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:25] <exec> 08└─Another reason to ban dihydrogen monoxide; it's used in the processing of recreational drugs.
[02:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Re:What about science factions you can't escape? - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 2643 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:36] <exec> 08└─Oh dear, it seems I'm obliged to don the storytime tinfoil and tell you a tale of yesteryear. Once upon a time, in the mid 1970's, a spinoff from the allegedly defunct MKULTRA project discovered the Microwave Auditory Effect. [wikipedia.org] This is a method for remotely producing sound inside someo...
[02:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03gznork26 [1159] (Score:1) 02Re:What about science factions you can't escape? - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:37] <exec> 08└─Thanks for taking that next step for me. I'd read about a lot of that stuff already. Getting people to take the first timid step out of 'accepted reality' can be the hardest, and trickiest part of waking them up to what's really going on. Tell them too much all at once and a lot of people throw up t...
[02:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ethics department at the local uni - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:40] <exec> 08└─I'm sure she misses you too.
[02:13:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03TheMessageNotTheMessenger [5664] 02Just make it easy to ignore - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 1538 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:13:49] <exec> 08└─During my commute I have to walk past moving advertisements that also make sounds, in the form of large TV screens. I think the sound is a step too far. I can look away if I'm not interested, but the effort required to not hear the advertising is too much. Do I plug my ears every time I walk past? D...
[02:13:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Marand [1081] 02Re:It's a blight - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 183 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:51] <exec> 08└─I honestly won't be surprised if a lot of thought that went into both Slashdot Beta, and its current "enhancements" is a ploy to try and increase the amount of ad revenue they can get
[02:14:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmn32480 [443] (Score:2) 02Re:Crapvertisement - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:14:01] <exec> 08└─I am unmoved by "please disable your adblocker to keep this site alive" messages.
[02:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Crapvertisement - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:14:03] <exec> 08└─Don't like ABP-approved ads?
[02:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Advertising isn't all bad - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 2214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:14:05] <exec> 08└─OK, I guess I'll be one the one dissenting voice here in all this anti-advertising vitriol. Yes, I do agree that most advertising is unnecessary, annoying, and a waste of resources and people's time. However, not *all* advertising is bad or worthless. Without advertising, you probably wouldn't know...
[02:14:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03prospectacle [3422] (Score:2) 02Ads can be dealt with as viruses - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 1654 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:14:06] <exec> 08└─1 - You can reduce exposure. Ad-blockers for your browser, mute the tv during breaks. Also, while it's not always voluntary when a billboard catches your eye, you have control over how long you look at and think about it. 2 - You can wash your hands after exposure. Just a few moments of considering...
[02:14:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Well, except at Gmail - 06Spam Rate Dropping Below 50% for the First Time in 12 Years - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:14:21] <exec> 08└─I run a few email servers on VPSs. I set up SPF records & DKIM and have no problems getting through to any recipients.
[02:15:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:Geographic or magnetic? - 06Global Warming Has Shifted Earth's Axis - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:15:06] <exec> 08└─The rotational pole, which from the sounds of it, does not correlate to the geographic pole. This kind of make sense as if the rotational pole is moving close to a foot a year, that would mean the US and Canadian border, defined as 49 degrees N, would be moving all the time.
[02:15:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02No cause for alarm - 06Global Warming Has Shifted Earth's Axis - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:15:21] <exec> 08└─The UN-IPCC looked at this a decade ago and said it doesnt affect the planet. Therefore these scientists are not 'on message' and need to retract their paper... for the sake of 'the science' ;) Funny how people look at articles like this and ignore that 'the science' says it plays no part in the cli...
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[03:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:He is a "researcher" - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:13:26] <exec> 08└─So he went to Amsterdam last year, then he ordered a compound that "...is used as a recreational intoxicant with effects similar to alcohol." from China. Nothing suspicious there, eh?
[03:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:He is a "researcher" - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:13:27] <exec> 08└─Then again, when is the last time you checked the controlled substances act before buying a common industrial solvent online?
[03:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Crap Weekend Editing - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:13:30] <exec> 08└─Clue: RTFA
[03:13:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03pogostix [1696] (Score:2) 02Re:Rule #1 - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:13:52] <exec> 08└─I got a SMS spam from a large company recently. I called their 800 number and complained. I sent them an email to complain. Basically saying I was disappointing they would do that and hope that they would re-think the practice. SMS spamming would drive me to cutting all ties with a company.
[03:13:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The United States has it's own propaganda - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:13:58] <exec> 08└─Bernie is the new RON PAUL!
[03:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:It's a blight - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:14:05] <exec> 08└─Why have a mobile site? Any device worth it's batteries can load standard web pages, and they will get better with time. I do about half my browsing on my phone, and the standard pages are always preferable to the mobile versions. I think mobile versions are a short lived concept.
[03:14:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02Re:Advertising isn't all bad - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 1581 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:14:17] <exec> 08└─TFS talks about advertising as being a commons, and advertising is the exploitation of such a commons. Beneficial things come from all such exploitation of course, just as we get energy from burning fossil fuels and releasing the resultant exhaust into the atmosphere, and advertising helps to provid...
[03:14:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ads can be dealt with as viruses - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:14:19] <exec> 08└─And to take the analogy one step further: just as not all micro-organisms cause disease and some even are beneficial to health, not all advertising is evil. Unfortunately, in this day and age things have gone too far the other way.
[03:14:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheMessageNotTheMessenger [5664] (Score:1) 02Re:Well, except at Gmail - 06Spam Rate Dropping Below 50% for the First Time in 12 Years - 405 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:14:35] <exec> 08└─Some people don't understand how mailing lists work, and instead of properly unsubscribing, they'll just mark the mails as spam. But then the filtering algorithms also start marking very similar mails as spam. Including the very similar, if not identical, copies you received in your inbox. You can s...
[03:14:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:1) 02Re:Looking for image of the Sun viewed from Pluto - 06View Pluto's Mountains in 3D - 646 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:14:51] <exec> 08└─I would love that picture. I hope they have something like that planned. I have actually been looking a lot lately at pictures of the size of the sun viewed from other planets. Here's some other pages I've found: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com
[03:15:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:1) 02Re:Geographic or magnetic? - 06Global Warming Has Shifted Earth's Axis - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:15:24] <exec> 08└─This is why RTFA is so important. It gives you this information so you don't need to post your ignorance and laziness to the world. :)
[03:15:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:East? - 06Global Warming Has Shifted Earth's Axis - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:15:39] <exec> 08└─Suppose you have a device that tells you how far away from the north pole you are. One day you use it and walk until it reads 0 and you plant a flag at the north pole. Several years later, you return to the flag and take a reading off the device. You find that the flag is no longer at the north pole...
[03:17:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:1) 02Re:Looks awesome - 06New Horizons Spurs New Calls to Make Pluto a Planet Once Again - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:17:40] <exec> 08└─Sounds great to me, but those don't exist yet. FTL travel would be wonderful, too.
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[04:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:I used Plutonium on sophomore physics lab - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:20] <exec> 08└─But plutonium can't make you high, so it's ok. The problem is only with chemicals that can induce euphoria because artificially feeling good is bad, mmkay, don't do that.
[04:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:He is a "researcher" - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 585 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:28] <exec> 08└─I think that as a researcher he should know the legal status of the chemicals that he's wanting to use. Having to order some from a foreign country because none of the domestic sources carry it is probably a bit of a warning to consider the legality of the substance. Obviously, it's not always a mat...
[04:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:He is a "researcher" - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:29] <exec> 08└─He is a researcher, not a manufacturer. Once he had a working design or portion of a design it could either be sold off to someone else to worry about or if he was so inclined, manufacture in china.
[04:13:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A solar battery researcher? Or a drug manufactu - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 692 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:34] <exec> 08└─You would make an excellent police officer. Assume the very worst about someone without any evidence and insinuate everyone that does not agree with you is an idiot. Here he is, in his lab, with his solar battery: http://www.themoscowtimes.com
[04:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Git out your tinfoil hats!!! - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 540 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:39] <exec> 08└─Don your tinfoil hat for this one. I guess you know that when you combine 1 liter of dihydrogen monoxide with five liters of oxidane [chemindustry.com] ( again, a very common solvent ), you get six liters of a substance that has been has been "among the top causes of accidental death worldwide, acc...
[04:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:What about science factions you can't escape? - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:51] <exec> 08└─Didn't you ever hear of tin foil hats? like a Faraday cage, it can block all kinds of radiation.
[04:13:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ethics department at the local uni - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:55] <exec> 08└─I can understand that. Medical ethics is a nexus between the incredibly intelligent, those that deal with things that matter but do not objectively exist (ethics, morals, intrinsic values), and the egotastic world of healthcare. A mix that could readily attract intelligent, egobound people obsessed...
[04:13:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Ethics department at the local uni - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 1033 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:57] <exec> 08└─The more I read up on willpower and decision making, the more convinced I am that we need rules against most forms of advertising. You may not fall for one particular ad, but if you're subjected to enough of them across the course of a day or a week, you'll eventually run low on willpower and buy th...
[04:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:mushy child brains - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:14:03] <exec> 08└─Better than MMS spam.
[04:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:It's a blight - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:14:14] <exec> 08└─Bingo!! And just what the hell are "Aps"? Why does every website need a client on your device, be it mobile phone or computer?
[04:14:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Advertising isn't all bad - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 1891 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:14:27] <exec> 08└─Seeing a sign for an Italian restaurant when I'm hungry and feel like Italian food is like getting energy from burning fossil fuel. Seeing a sign for an Italian restaurant when I'd rather eat something else is a few moments of my attention stolen from me that I will never get back again, and is like...
[04:14:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03prospectacle [3422] (Score:2) 02Re:Ads can be dealt with as viruses - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:14:30] <exec> 08└─You're right, complete sterility is not desirable (or possible), in either case. The answer is innoculation against known diseases, moderation of exposure, and good habits to minimise the risk of serious infection.
[04:16:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Absolutely.Geek [5328] (Score:1) 02Re:No - 06Can We Build a Truly Free Speech System? - 735 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:16:08] <exec> 08└─Don't go; your posts are some of the most worthwhile to read......maybe not the most informative but often as a humourous counterpoint to somthing serrious that highlights a different view....all be it in an expletive filled way. The reason to have protected speach is to have the freedom to offend;...
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[05:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Prince! - 06Photoactivated CRISPR-Cas9 Proteins Created - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:13:18] <exec> 08└─Prince is re-writing his DNA while making love!
[05:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Finally, the internet noticed! - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:13:26] <exec> 08└─Old people are easy to scam. I'd like to welcome these scum with the rest of the scum who prey on vulnerable people. The real question is...do they blend?
[05:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Finally, the internet noticed! - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:28] <exec> 08└─Not all "old" people are easy to scam. Only those who have never been exposed to scammers, or those who's minds are gone.
[05:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Finally, the internet noticed! - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:29] <exec> 08└─Take the dumb people you encounter all the time, age them by 30-50 years, and give them degenerative neural illness, large nest eggs, and desperation. It's the perfect crime.
[05:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score:2) 02Disgusting. - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 444 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:13:31] <exec> 08└─I've known about this. My grandmother lost half a million dollars and became broke because she was repeatedly scammed over and over with fake "you won the lottery" things. They'd just ask for a mere $10,000 for processing, and then, just keep the money. She had dementia and a gambling addiction, so...
[05:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:I used Plutonium on sophomore physics lab - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:42] <exec> 08└─"I chose to order from China because of the strict laws there." Hah. Good one.
[05:13:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:He is a "researcher" - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:49] <exec> 08└─then he ordered a compound that "...is used as a recreational intoxicant with effects similar to alcohol." from China
[05:14:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Lots of things are banned - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 469 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:14:01] <exec> 08└─For example, if you try to import night vision equipment from US to Canada, or an electric stun-gun from China to Canada, you are importing illegal munitions. This can land you a big find, or worse. You really need to look at controlled substance and equipment lists. Heck, importing large amounts of...
[05:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03penguinoid [5331] (Score:2) 02Soviet Russia - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:14:02] <exec> 08└─In Soviet Russia, battery charges YOU!
[05:14:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03penguinoid [5331] (Score:2) 02Re:What about science factions you can't escape? - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 402 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:14:16] <exec> 08└─You're the first real live tin foil hat conspiracy theorist that I've had contact with. To be honest, the non-tinfoil-hat conspiracy theorists sound crazier -- it seems that the government really can influence your emotions and get a voice in your head using EM waves. Although if I was worried about...
[05:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03penguinoid [5331] (Score:2) 02Re:tv ads that feature children... - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:14:23] <exec> 08└─That's because performing valuable tasks isn't some horrible plague that must be kept from our young ones at any cost.
[05:15:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Re:META: observe the moderation here - 06Global Warming Has Shifted Earth's Axis - 752 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:15:48] <exec> 08└─HA! You're obviously smarter than the average Soylentil. "no moderation at all". Just like everyone else here, I get a steady diet of mod points. I can't remember the last time I used up my day's supply. When I see a really good comment, I hit it with an insightful, or interesting, or informative. I...
[05:16:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Re:East? - 06Global Warming Has Shifted Earth's Axis - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:16:17] <exec> 08└─You find that the flag is no longer at the north pole, and that instead your device indicates that the pole is a little ways to the east instead.
[05:17:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Assertion based discussion - 06Can We Build a Truly Free Speech System? - 1656 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:17:20] <exec> 08└─Thank you. I think you understand the thrust of what I was getting at. I've been thinking about this problem for a long time as well, although in other contexts. Like how does a social group become self-sustaining. I find your idea intriguing and would love to see an implementation of it. I wrote th...
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[06:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Disgusting. - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:24] <exec> 08└─All I c an say to this is, you and your parents should have been closer to your grandmother to prevent this kind of thing. Of course that's easy for me to say even though I and my 13 cousins let someone scam us and our aunt out of 3.5 million US $. We wound up with around 30 K US$ each.
[06:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Disgusting. - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 724 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:25] <exec> 08└─Ive dealt with two people in my life, one who had a gambling addiction, and the other, dementia. I cannot imagine the chaos, much less stress involved if you put those two afflictions into the same individual, and combined that with a large nest egg, which the family probably had no control over. Th...
[06:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02Re:Disgusting. - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 814 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:27] <exec> 08└─How exactly does one stay close to the cheque-book of an aging relative? There are three kinds of people that do that: controlling types (preventing elderly people from financial agency), family members out to scam, and of course, family members that care and are doing their best to help. The first...
[06:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:3, Insightful) 02automate scam detection at banks? - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 764 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:13:29] <exec> 08└─I wonder if we could automate some kind of scam-detection algorithm that reviews account history at banks? Similar things are done for credit cards - I'm not the only one who's had a call "hello, did you just purchase an item for $23.45 from overseas?" I wonder if similar things could be done to mon...
[06:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03linuxrocks123 [2557] (Score:2) 02Re:automate scam detection at banks? - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:31] <exec> 08└─That's an excellent idea.
[06:14:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ethics department at the local uni - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:14:19] <exec> 08└─And for the same reason.
[06:14:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03penguinoid [5331] (Score:2) 02Re:Just make it easy to ignore - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:14:35] <exec> 08└─I think the sound is a step too far. I can look away if I'm not interested, but the effort required to not hear the advertising is too much. Do I plug my ears every time I walk past? Do I put in earbuds and crank them high enough so I can't hear the ad anymore? That's trading a nuisance for ear dama...
[06:14:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03penguinoid [5331] (Score:2) 02Re:It's a blight - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:14:41] <exec> 08└─And just what the hell are "Aps"?
[06:14:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrNemesis [1582] (Score:2) 02Re:It's a blight - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:14:43] <exec> 08└─Why does every website need a client on your device, be it mobile phone or computer?
[06:14:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Solicitors, Pimps, Pushers - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:14:59] <exec> 08└─Yes, step this way, gentle folk! We have the three breasted whore of Babylon, the "always on" internet network, and the happy happy solution to all your problems: it's a gun. But not to worry! We have other prostitutes available, who have degrees of law and have passed a bar! Totally clean, in other...
[06:15:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02Re:Well, except at Gmail - 06Spam Rate Dropping Below 50% for the First Time in 12 Years - 2235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:15:16] <exec> 08└─I only unsubscribe from mailing lists that I actively subscribed to. If some group starts sending me uninteresting stuff I didn't ask for, I won't unsubscribe, I'll automatically delete them. We often see this happen when a company gets sold - initially there might have been an occasional mildly int...
[06:15:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Holy SHIT! - 06Global Warming Has Shifted Earth's Axis - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:15:58] <exec> 08└─"Go buy a gyroscope and play with it" Done. http://www.cmsnl.com [cmsnl.com] Fact is, I can balance multiple gyroscopes, keeping them in harmony. It's an art. Different models have varying numbers of gyroscopes, but three is the m...
[06:16:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score:2) 02What a great article. - 06Global Warming Has Shifted Earth's Axis - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:16:26] <exec> 08└─Indeed it was great. One link in the summery. That goes to an article that: a. Has no citations b. Mentions no study or scientist by name c. Draws poorly worded and suspect conclusions from said un-cited sources. d. Is in my opinion, a new site to list under my never go there list. This article is w...
[06:16:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score:2) 02Re:What a great article. - 06Global Warming Has Shifted Earth's Axis - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:16:28] <exec> 08└─The article does mention the GRACE program, but does not cite it as a source, only " such as the GRACE satellite, " which suggests the research did not come from there. It does explain the basics of GRACE, and makes no effort to tie it to this article beyond its mention.' Publications that go on the...
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[07:13:33] <exec> 08└─Ive dealt with two people in my life, one who had a gambling addiction, and the other, dementia.
[07:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Evolution at work - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:37] <exec> 08└─Some people just have too much money... I think the scammers are sickening but somehow it at the same time feels hard to have compassion for the "victims".
[07:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I was FaceBook friends with blue-eyed Cass - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 551 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:38] <exec> 08└─However I know how to do image similarity search. "She" promised me lots of what every man wants most just a few hours after we met. A lot of men have fallen for this. Quite tragically what hurt them the mist was not that they sent "Cass" all their money but that "her" love was not genuine. Report c...
[07:13:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02He is a "researcher" - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 77 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:51] <exec> 08└─Given that he is a researcher, is the use of the banned substance reasonable?
[07:13:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:He is a "researcher" - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:13:59] <exec> 08└─Then again, when is the last time you checked the controlled substances act before buying a common industrial solvent online?
[07:14:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's a blight - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:14:54] <exec> 08└─And just what the hell are "Aps"?
[07:15:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Well, except at Gmail - 06Spam Rate Dropping Below 50% for the First Time in 12 Years - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:15:29] <exec> 08└─You DO take a minute to train the filters, don't you? Tell it something is spam once or not spam, and you are golden. Then there's always the guy who insists on posting to mailing lists with a 5 paragraph corporate disclosure statement appended. That guy yyo want gone anyway .
[07:15:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Well, except at Gmail - 06Spam Rate Dropping Below 50% for the First Time in 12 Years - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:15:33] <exec> 08└─They don't use RBLs at all.
[07:16:04] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03BK [4868] 02META: observe the moderation here - 06Global Warming Has Shifted Earth's Axis - 390 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:16:05] <exec> 08└─Another climate story, another screwed up moderation tree. Parent's moderation has changed from insightful to troll 2x in the past 10 minutes. "Disagree" clearly isn't enough for some people here. Is moderating as troll the comments we disagree with acceptable now? I do understand that it's importan...
[07:16:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03penguinoid [5331] (Score:2) 02Re:META: observe the moderation here - 06Global Warming Has Shifted Earth's Axis - 483 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:16:10] <exec> 08└─You're complaining that someone who first-posted with obviously false information on a controversial topic, while calling his opponents religiously insane, got modded troll? Read down the thread, he has badly confused the (clearly measurable) location of the axial north pole, which would shift due t...
[07:16:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score:2) 02Here is (I believe) the original source. - 06Global Warming Has Shifted Earth's Axis - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:16:44] <exec> 08└─This appears to be the source of the story. sourced from: http://www.scientificamerican.com [scientificamerican.com] Who reprinted: http://www.nature.com [nature.com] who cite: http://on...
[07:17:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Free speech doesn't exist, by definition - 06Can We Build a Truly Free Speech System? - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:17:37] <exec> 08└─And we intentionally suppress the hate speech because it can be (and is) abused too easily to incite people.
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[08:13:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Controlled detonation... - 06HitchBOT Touring the USA This Year - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:13:15] <exec> 08└─... within a few days. Or trashed by idiots in a similar time frame. A few euros to the local children's home if I'm completely wrong.
[08:13:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Controlled detonation... - 06HitchBOT Touring the USA This Year - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:17] <exec> 08└─Yep, it's toast. I've seen people swerve into the ditch to kill small animals, so I don't think this little robot will last very long.
[08:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:automate scam detection at banks? - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 1856 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:43] <exec> 08└─A lot of the problem comes from third party services. Western Union are scumbags who will gladly move any amount of money anywhere without any question, and it's the complacent medium by which any competent scammer does his work. My grandparents got taken for a few thousand a couple years ago. Appa...
[08:14:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:He is a "researcher" - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:08] <exec> 08└─The punishment should fit the crime, indeed. The crime was a simple oversight which harmed no-one. The punishment should be equally harsh - say confiscation of the banned substance, with no refund, and a stern letter telling him to not make the same mistake again?
[08:14:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Ethics department at the local uni - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:41] <exec> 08└─Even if you don't buy the product, the willpower you're using to avoid buying things that they're tempting you to buy is a resource that you have a right to exploit for yourself.
[08:15:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Well, except at Gmail - 06Spam Rate Dropping Below 50% for the First Time in 12 Years - 832 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:15:39] <exec> 08└─I'll see your pain, and raise triple pain. I run my own server, from the middle of an ISPs IP block shared by scummy virus-ridden windoze PCs, so nobody likes what I send out. However, one of the domains pointing to that IP address is asdf.org (and another is asdf.fi, and another is asdf.ee), and ev...
[08:16:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Geographic or magnetic? - 06Global Warming Has Shifted Earth's Axis - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:16:32] <exec> 08└─that would mean the US and Canadian border, defined as 49 degrees N, would be moving all the time.
[08:16:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] (Score:2) 02Re:Wait … - 06Global Warming Has Shifted Earth's Axis - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:16:40] <exec> 08└─Ah that should have been mentioned too. However, I think we can assume that global warming isn't going to change that. Hopefully.
[08:17:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:No - 06Can We Build a Truly Free Speech System? - 1586 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:17:12] <exec> 08└─Being an asshole is fine. Reddit is fine with that, Slashdot is fine with that, Soylent is fine with it. The problem is when people start to break the law, or drive others away from the site. Breaking the law is an easy one. If you post material that is illegal where the site is operated from, or ma...
[08:17:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:No - 06Can We Build a Truly Free Speech System? - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:17:14] <exec> 08└─The problem with karama is that it is vulnerable to modbombing. I had that happen to me on Slashdot recently when MRAs were going nuts on the Ask Brianna Wu story. A quick email to the admins fixed it (I've been one of the top posters for years, they could see that two accounts were systematically a...
[08:17:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03ThePhilips [5677] (Score:1) 02Re:Free speech doesn't exist, by definition - 06Can We Build a Truly Free Speech System? - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:17:51] <exec> 08└─That is because our system does not favor the concept of personal responsibility. Instead, it blames the speaker for the actions that other people chose to take [...]
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[09:13:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Disgusting. - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 843 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:13:44] <exec> 08└─You have to be willing to "be the bastard" in their eyes, like it or not. I recently lost my father and I'm paying to have my mother's will written up....does she like this? No she does not (she hates talk of such things) but I refuse to let it drop because she has property she wants to go to her gr...
[09:13:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] (Score:2) 02We're all susceptible - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 1457 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:13:50] <exec> 08└─The story is about folks nearing retirement or having retired, but as the summary explains, that's only because they are wealthy targets. Not because they are more easily tricked. The clever strategy here is selecting the victims - not for their age, but for their interest. The people on dating site...
[09:13:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:We're all susceptible - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:13:53] <exec> 08└─Now your PC and mine might be malware-free (perhaps...)
[09:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:He is a "researcher" - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:14:13] <exec> 08└─"We found heroin under your seat. What do you have to say to it?" "Well, I'm a private researcher, and I need that stuff for my research." "Really? What is that research about?" "About how those drugs act on the human mind." "So you planned to intoxicate people with this?" "Oh no, I'm an ethical res...
[09:14:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Git out your tinfoil hats!!! - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 475 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:14:26] <exec> 08└─Well, it gets really dangerous if you add some hydrogen hydroxide to the mix. Note that while most people know about the danger of getting it into the lungs, few people know that also drinking it can kill you. [wikipedia.org] BTW, that substance should be banned also for another reason. By just appl...
[09:14:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What's missing: Why GBL is banned - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:14:27] <exec> 08└─Well, glue is used as recreational drug as is. Maybe it should be banned. Oh, you want to glue something? Too bad.
[09:14:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kell [292] (Score:2) 02Re:Soviet Russia - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:14:31] <exec> 08└─Ahhh, Soviet Russia jokes. It's like we never left the green site.
[09:15:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:It's a blight - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:15:16] <exec> 08└─Why have a mobile site?
[09:15:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:There is far too much online advertising - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 562 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:15:24] <exec> 08└─It's worse than that. Businesses that charge for their service increasingly have to compete with ones that are free (ad-supported). They then have to reduce their ad spending and you end up with an ad ecosystem that is entirely cannibalising itself. If you want to see this taken to extremes, take a...
[09:15:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:from TFA as to why this is - 06Spam Rate Dropping Below 50% for the First Time in 12 Years - 728 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:15:43] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, there's been research that shows that this doesn't actually work. The people originating the spam are often also victims. The people making the money are the ones selling direct marketing services to slightly shady people. They don't need their campaigns to be effective, they just nee...
[09:15:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Well, except at Gmail - 06Spam Rate Dropping Below 50% for the First Time in 12 Years - 1147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:15:50] <exec> 08└─I don't know if Google's software works in the same way, but from talking to people at Yahoo! this is a common issue that they run into. The reason their spam filtering works better than client-side filtering for a lot of people is that a lot of people get the same spam and they can aggregate the da...
[09:16:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Messaging is moving to social networking - 06Spam Rate Dropping Below 50% for the First Time in 12 Years - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:16:02] <exec> 08└─If you want to keep feeling smug, remember that most spam these days is phishing. The phishers will go where the stupid people are. A lot of walled garden systems are much better at concentrating stupid people than email (even @aol.com is no longer quite the indication that it used to be).
[09:18:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Free speech doesn't exist, by definition - 06Can We Build a Truly Free Speech System? - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:18:11] <exec> 08└─Huh, huh! He said "personal responsibility"
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[10:13:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02This is how they roll in korea - 06South Korean Intelligence Employee Commits Suicide Over Hacking Scandal - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:13:55] <exec> 08└─Gives some more depth to the expression "fall guy", doesn't it? Crazy in the north, crazy in the south. So if everything was peachy, why did this guy supposedly waste himself?
[10:14:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03WizardFusion [498] (Score:2) 02Illegal.? - 06HitchBOT Touring the USA This Year - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:14:05] <exec> 08└─I thought hitch-hiking was illegal in america.?
[10:14:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score:2) 02Re:Disgusting. - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:14:32] <exec> 08└─We were there for her at least twice a week. We talked every day. Mom didn't have the heart to take power of attorney, because she knew it'd break grammaw's heart. So we watched in horror how she never listened to any of us, and threw out $500,000.
[10:14:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03schad [2398] (Score:2) 02Re:We're all susceptible - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:14:40] <exec> 08└─Similarly, plenty of us here would probably be willing to help a friend in need out financially.
[10:14:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03davester666 [155] 02Re:I used Plutonium on sophomore physics lab - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 78 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:14:54] <exec> 08└─"I chose to order from China because of the strict laws there." Hah. Good one.
[10:15:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:He is a "researcher" - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:15:07] <exec> 08└─Well, it is a suspended sentence - it could have been a lot worse.
[10:15:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:A solar battery researcher? Or a drug manufactu - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 692 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:15:11] <exec> 08└─You would make an excellent police officer. Assume the very worst about someone without any evidence and insinuate everyone that does not agree with you is an idiot. Here he is, in his lab, with his solar battery: http://www.themoscowtimes.com
[10:15:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Re:Git out your tinfoil hats!!! - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:15:19] <exec> 08└─I even heard about people shooting each other with this dangerous substance! We need to ban these chem-guns ASAP!
[10:15:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Soviet Russia - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:15:25] <exec> 08└─In Soviet Russia, the green site left you.
[10:15:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Ethics department at the local uni - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 358 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:15:47] <exec> 08└─You may not fall for one particular ad, but if you're subjected to enough of them across the course of a day or a week, you'll eventually run low on willpower and buy the product. Even if you don't buy the product, the willpower you're using to avoid buying things that they're tempting you to buy is...
[10:15:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You bring this up at a bad time - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:15:57] <exec> 08└─Here's another piece of advice from M$ http://www.theinquirer.net [theinquirer.net] While you're at this nuking business, you might consider replacing the legacy operating system family with something less likely to contract malware...
[10:19:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:selection bias - 06Ask SN: Best Way to Report a Major Security Problem at a Cellular Carrier? - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:19:46] <exec> 08└─It's an illusion to reduce entry vectors with adblock, noscript, requestpolicy?
[10:19:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Clarification from OP - 06Ask SN: Best Way to Report a Major Security Problem at a Cellular Carrier? - 1848 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:19:58] <exec> 08└─Some interesting comments and questions--and a lot of trolling. So clarification: 1. The item was not hot nor was it a phone. 2. The store that sold it e-mailed me the receipt instead of printing it. 3a. I tried the store in question to return because it was closer and because--AFAIK--it is indeed c...
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[11:13:33] <exec> 08└─stop fighting bacteria and let them fight? You reckon it's crazy? Stool transplant [wikipedia.org] is not revolutionary anymore, so... how about using the horse "soap" [nytimes.com]? Whitlock thought about how much horses sweat in the summer. He wondered whether the animals managed their sweat by en...
[11:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is how they roll in korea - 06South Korean Intelligence Employee Commits Suicide Over Hacking Scandal - 703 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:13:42] <exec> 08└─Well, this certainly invites to a conspiracy theory. We tend to give additional credibility to the final letter before a suicide, especially if it reveals information, as what reason does he have to lie at that point? But what if it wasn't really a suicide? AFAIU it just reveals what wasn't really c...
[11:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is how they roll in korea - 06South Korean Intelligence Employee Commits Suicide Over Hacking Scandal - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:13:44] <exec> 08└─Fun fact: many Asian nations, South Korea being one of them, have suicide rates higher than American homicide and suicide rates combined. It is something I like to keep in mind when discussing a variety of subjects relating to death or crime.
[11:13:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:1) 02Re:Controlled detonation... - 06HitchBOT Touring the USA This Year - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:13:54] <exec> 08└─Just wait until it finally gets south. It's going to end up being hogtied, and told it has a purty mouth.
[11:13:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03CRCulver [4390] (Score:2) 02Re:Illegal.? - 06HitchBOT Touring the USA This Year - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:13:56] <exec> 08└─I thought hitch-hiking was illegal in america.?
[11:14:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Evolution at work - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:26] <exec> 08└─Some people just have too much money... I think the scammers are sickening but somehow it at the same time feels hard to have compassion for the "victims".
[11:14:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] (Score:2) 02Re:We're all susceptible - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 485 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:30] <exec> 08└─Exactly. There's a lot of trust involved in social relations and also in getting software from the internet. Lucky enough for me, for some reason delivering malware via driveby downloads is currently easier than corrupting the software repositories where I get my updates from. And exactly the same i...
[11:15:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Crap Weekend Editing - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:15:01] <exec> 08└─So you say the summary is missing a clue?
[11:15:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Soviet Russia - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:15:16] <exec> 08└─In USA you research what to put in Solar cells. In Russia solar research puts you in cells. In Russia Putin cells you.
[11:15:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ethics department at the local uni - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:15:41] <exec> 08└─Think of it from a physics perspective. Making a decision costs energy in your brain that could have been used elsewhere. Just because it was an easy choice does not mean the energy was not expended.
[11:18:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:education vs corruption - 06Can We Build a Truly Free Speech System? - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:18:49] <exec> 08└─"Consciousness" means awareness, "conscience" is the feeling of right and wrong. Two different words in English. Not usual to say we should "raise conscience", more usual to refer to "consciousness raising", which means awareness in general, not necessarily ethical awareness, although that is not ex...
[11:20:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Re:so what are the rest of them? - 06New Horizons Spurs New Calls to Make Pluto a Planet Once Again - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:20:22] <exec> 08└─Especially the ones written 75 years before 2006,
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[12:13:41] <exec> 08└─something about becoming a dirt person [wowspicynews.com] is really just really unappealing.
[12:13:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02oi! - 06South Korean Intelligence Employee Commits Suicide Over Hacking Scandal - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:53] <exec> 08└─talk about taking your job too seriously.
[12:14:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Smoking and crooks - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 1967 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:43] <exec> 08└─In the old days, everyone smoked like fiends from teens to death, so all my grandparents never got ripped off because they died of heart and cancer body issues before their minds went. If you're gonna die anyway I'm not entirely sure its "more fun" to have your mind and all your property go at 80 ra...
[12:15:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Re:What about science factions you can't escape? - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:43] <exec> 08└─Damnit, how can I mod this informative AND funny at the same time?
[12:15:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Re:Ethics department at the local uni - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 1376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:53] <exec> 08└─I'm sticking with Firefox simply because the combination of AdBlock Plus and Ghostery works best on that browser. This pairing not only removes virtually all the adverts from the pages I visit, but also makes it nigh-on impossible for cross-site trackers to follow me as well. The only problem is tho...
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[12:20:15] <exec> 08└─this is far more realistic than FTL anything.
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[13:13:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02going to get worse before it gets better - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:05] <exec> 08└─a LOT of people are going to have to start dying off before politicians realize we need to actually put resources in to restoring our planet.
[13:13:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:going to get worse before it gets better - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 883 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:06] <exec> 08└─Kind of a shallow interpretation. The problem with analyzing the existing climate change effects is that they need to be compared to a hypothetical world where it's 1 C cooler. We don't know exactly what that's like, and denialists have a (arguably almost justifiable) free pass to dismiss all analys...
[13:13:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:What about... - 06Tracing the Evolution of a Drug-Resistant Pathogen - 1095 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:17] <exec> 08└─Great link. Modern medicine isn't all it's cracked up to be. It has been observed that our hospitals, or more accurately, "regional medical centers" are excellent breeding grounds for pathogens. In the not-distant past, hospitals had windows that opened, and doctors liberally prescribed "sunshine an...
[13:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What about... - 06Tracing the Evolution of a Drug-Resistant Pathogen - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:19] <exec> 08└─Stool transplant is about putting good bacteria in a place where you need them. Here, it's about fighting pathogens. To make an analogy, stool transplant is like employing people to work for your company. Your suggestion is to stop fighting people who attack your company.
[13:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What about... - 06Tracing the Evolution of a Drug-Resistant Pathogen - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:21] <exec> 08└─Your suggestion is to stop fighting people who attack your company.
[13:13:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03threedigits [607] (Score:2) 02Apparently? - 06South Korean Intelligence Employee Commits Suicide Over Hacking Scandal - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:32] <exec> 08└─For some reason, I cannot avoid thinking that the word "apparently" needed to be in the title, somewhere. But dead people cannot testify, so we will never know.
[13:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Controlled detonation... - 06HitchBOT Touring the USA This Year - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:42] <exec> 08└─how dare you insult gay people like that, you homophobe! lol as a southerner, i can say he is likely to be used as target practice (with rifles and shotguns, you dirty-minded fool!). this would most likely be perpetrated by young, 18 to 20-somethings - young, wild bucks. they might even mount his he...
[13:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Controlled detonation... - 06HitchBOT Touring the USA This Year - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:44] <exec> 08└─It made it all the way across Canada just fine.
[13:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Controlled detonation... - 06HitchBOT Touring the USA This Year - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:45] <exec> 08└─i dunno. its usually the hitch-hiking drifter that commits murders in the movies. someone might pick him up and re-program him to do such things...
[13:13:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03CRCulver [4390] 02Re:Illegal.? - 06HitchBOT Touring the USA This Year - 47 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:48] <exec> 08└─I thought hitch-hiking was illegal in america.?
[13:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:2) 02Grumpy, the traveling lawn dwarf! - 06HitchBOT Touring the USA This Year - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:50] <exec> 08└─This story reminded me of this inanimate object's adventure reported way back on May 11, 1989 where a concrete dwarf traveled from Saugerties, NY to Washington, New York City, Florida and elsewhere: Grumpy the traveling lawn dwarf is back where he belongs [apnewsarchive.com]
[13:14:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:2) 02Re:Finally, the internet noticed! - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:05] <exec> 08└─> It's the perfect crime. It's the neglected dime? What? Kids these days are so careless with money. Back in '22 if we had a dime, we'd damn sure take care of it, dag-nabbit!
[13:14:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A solar battery researcher? Or a drug manufactu - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:55] <exec> 08└─It is the job of police to arrest people doing apparently illegal things, like importing controlled substances without authorization. The court determines whether there are mitigating circumstances. If he's a researcher, he should have done some, ahh, research on the chemical beforehand.
[13:15:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03shipofgold [4696] (Score:1) 02Assessing Intent - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 786 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:10] <exec> 08└─While it is undoubtedly an inexact science, assessing his intent is what is needed to determine the punishment. Is his research vaporware or is there a working prototype that could use this solvent? Does he have any history of drug use or selling? I am guessing it went down something like: He travel...
[13:15:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03dr_barnowl [1568] (Score:1) 02Re:What about science factions you can't escape? - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:15:27] <exec> 08└─I do wonder if the Hum [wikipedia.org] is actually a psych-ops programme sometimes - for those affected it certainly is debilitating to one degree or another.
[13:16:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Appalbarry [66] 02Well, except at Gmail - 06Spam Rate Dropping Below 50% for the First Time in 12 Years - 236 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:25] <exec> 08└─Gmail has been "improving" their spam filtering. [theregister.co.uk] As a direct result instead of seeing ten or twenty messages each day in my Gmail spam folder, I now see a couple of hundred. Is there anything that Google can't break?
[13:20:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Attribute confusion - 06New Horizons Spurs New Calls to Make Pluto a Planet Once Again - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:20:24] <exec> 08└─It boggles my mind how a bunch of supposedly educated scientists can fail to comprehend that simply moving an object in space and/or time does not intrinsically change the object.
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[14:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:going to get worse before it gets better - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:19] <exec> 08└─denialists have a (arguably almost justifiable) free pass to dismiss all analyses like this one as conjecture.
[14:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:1, Flamebait) 02Re:going to get worse before it gets better - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:20] <exec> 08└─What an absolute shit opinion, with shit justification. And I can't even tell what "side" you're arguing. Come on man, separating statistical noise from observational study is important. We aren't talking about spurious correlations, we're talking about correlations with well-understood causative fa...
[14:13:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:going to get worse before it gets better - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 2784 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:22] <exec> 08└─The first assumption is our government is honest and effective and the regulation change has any effect on climate change at all. Oh we'll get regulation change, probably just to transfer more wealth to the wealthy. I find the odds of the regulation change having any effect on climate to not be much...
[14:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Perfunctory, Superficial Study - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:24] <exec> 08└─This is a perfunctory, superficial study simply riding the climate change bandwagon. It doesn't merit further comment, certainly no further funding.
[14:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:1, Flamebait) 02Re:Perfunctory, Superficial Study - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:25] <exec> 08└─And yet here you are, making misleading, inane ,and pointless comments. While you're quite content to declare the overwhelming majority of scientific analyses you don't like a "bandwagon" and ignore them, the rest of us would very much prefer to understand the world as it is, not as our political be...
[14:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Perfunctory, Superficial Study - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:27] <exec> 08└─Even your handle is a lie.
[14:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Perfunctory, Superficial Study - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:29] <exec> 08└─TFA almost says the same thing. They don't even know what people died of - they just note some increases in temps, some increases in death rates, and presume that the two numbers are related. Jeeez, Louise!
[14:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Confirmed - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:30] <exec> 08└─This small study simply confirms what another recent, much larger study already found [thelancet.com], which is that cold kills 20 times as many people as heat. A warmer climate will actually lead to less deaths overall, when considering temperatures alone.
[14:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What about... - 06Tracing the Evolution of a Drug-Resistant Pathogen - 423 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:41] <exec> 08└─The type of bacteria a responsible doctor fights with antibiotics isn't the analogue of hipsters watering their lawns during a drought. True, too many doctors subscribe antibiotics when they shouldn't. But that a weapon is used where it is not appropriate doesn't mean we should stop its research/dev...
[14:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:What about... - 06Tracing the Evolution of a Drug-Resistant Pathogen - 696 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:42] <exec> 08└─"opening the borders to Mexico won't help you." How in hell do you open a border that is already open? DERP! As for a large number of Mexicans in the event of a Russian attack - it just might help us. Mexico sat out of the last two big wars. In fact, I can't think of any wars that Mexico has fought,...
[14:13:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:oi! - 06South Korean Intelligence Employee Commits Suicide Over Hacking Scandal - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:54] <exec> 08└─Yeah. If he actually committed suicide I am a ham sandwich.
[14:14:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03crutchy [179] (Score:2) 02Re:Finally, the internet noticed! - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:30] <exec> 08└─Back in '22 if we had a dime, we'd damn sure take care of it, dag-nabbit!
[14:14:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] 02Re:Disgusting. - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 843 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:36] <exec> 08└─You have to be willing to "be the bastard" in their eyes, like it or not. I recently lost my father and I'm paying to have my mother's will written up....does she like this? No she does not (she hates talk of such things) but I refuse to let it drop because she has property she wants to go to her gr...
[14:14:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:automate scam detection at banks? - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:41] <exec> 08└─Well there is always the Hunter S. Thompson route... But really I am worried about this too. I have money that can deal with physical handicap problems, even though I hate relying on others for anything. But if my mind starts to go... I fear most that I won't realize it until it is too late.
[14:15:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:He is a "researcher" - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:12] <exec> 08└─A private researcher in the USA does not automatically gain access to drugs and explosives just because he says that he is a researcher.
[14:15:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] 02Re:What about science factions you can't escape? - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 2643 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:48] <exec> 08└─Oh dear, it seems I'm obliged to don the storytime tinfoil and tell you a tale of yesteryear. Once upon a time, in the mid 1970's, a spinoff from the allegedly defunct MKULTRA project discovered the Microwave Auditory Effect. [wikipedia.org] This is a method for remotely producing sound inside someo...
[14:16:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Ethics department at the local uni - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:16:04] <exec> 08└─Experimental psychology has shown that people espousing this attitude are just as likely to be influenced in their purchasing decision as anyone else. [tandfonline.com]
[14:16:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03gidds [589] (Score:2) 02Re: tv ads that feature children... - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 994 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:16:07] <exec> 08└─Bad argument, IMO. Child acting is worlds away from the sort of dangerous, harmful work that children were once forced to do up chimneys and down mines. WP defines [wikipedia.org] child labour as "the employment of children in any work that deprives children of their childhood, interferes with the...
[14:16:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:You bring this up at a bad time - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:16:17] <exec> 08└─I've only known one professional advertising person in my life - he was a pathological liar. Remember that Dudley Moore movie - "Crazy People" where none of the professional advertising guys can tell the truth even if forced? - yeah, like that in real life.
[14:17:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Holy SHIT! - 06Global Warming Has Shifted Earth's Axis - 736 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:17:36] <exec> 08└─what has fucked us up is retard progressives that want other people to pay for their unsubstantiated scams, whilst being the hypocrites that they are by using their technology that causes more global warming than 90% of the rest of earth's population it's fine to believe in a cause, but realize that...
[14:17:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:META: observe the moderation here - 06Global Warming Has Shifted Earth's Axis - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:17:41] <exec> 08└─There is an "Agree" mod option? I've never seen that. Only "Disagree".
[14:17:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Holy SHIT! - 06Global Warming Has Shifted Earth's Axis - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:17:50] <exec> 08└─Now what happens when that asshat is not attached to the ball but floating on it. It will never stay in the middle. It will sway to the side
[14:17:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03crutchy [179] (Score:2) 02Re:Quite a leap - 06Global Warming Has Shifted Earth's Axis - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:17:53] <exec> 08└─It's not physics, it's fearmongering and speculation. Simply stating a hypothesis to explain an observed phenomenon and claiming it to be true because it sounds 'technical' is not physics.
[14:18:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No - 06Can We Build a Truly Free Speech System? - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:18:36] <exec> 08└─The problem is when people start to break the law, or drive others away from the site.
[14:20:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:so what are the rest of them? - 06New Horizons Spurs New Calls to Make Pluto a Planet Once Again - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:20:27] <exec> 08└─And how is knowing the names of Uranus, Neptune and Pluto useful?
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[15:13:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02FUD - 06Been Hacked? Now to Decide If You Chase the Who or the How - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:15] <exec> 08└─He (William Peteroy, former security incident responder at Microsoft) and Microsoft mate Paul McKitrick detailed... Attribution has largely become an exercise in scaring potential customers with marketing fear uncertainty and doubt,"
[15:13:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Thru the eye of the fallacy? - 06Been Hacked? Now to Decide If You Chase the Who or the How - 642 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:16] <exec> 08└─It is an interesting business problem. As it is almost a classic broken window fallacy scenario. But not the problem itself. Someone has broken the window. How do you spend your money on fixing the window and moving on? Or do you spend money on chasing down who broke the window and try to reclaim fu...
[15:13:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score:2) 02Re:Thru the eye of the fallacy? - 06Been Hacked? Now to Decide If You Chase the Who or the How - 547 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:17] <exec> 08└─I see it as much more pragmatic than that. Chasing "how" allows you to figure out the method(s) used and harden your systems or habits against that vulnerability in the future. Does everybody who types your name into Google know your mother's middle name? Perhaps that's a bad question to ever use. D...
[15:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Thru the eye of the fallacy? - 06Been Hacked? Now to Decide If You Chase the Who or the How - 553 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:19] <exec> 08└─But "who" is also valuable information. Was it a kid who just liked to break windows? Then hardening your window is probably sufficient. Was it a thief who was after the jewels in the window? Then maybe it's a good idea to let the potential thieves know that your jewels are locked in a safe over nig...
[15:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nobuddy [1626] (Score:2) 02Re:Thru the eye of the fallacy? - 06Been Hacked? Now to Decide If You Chase the Who or the How - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:21] <exec> 08└─To me it seems a non-issue. We live in a world where the entire outside world is made up of rocks and delenquents. What use tracking down which one threw the rock? It makes no difference in the long rucn. Addressing why you still have glass windows is a more important question.
[15:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Boffins? - 06Been Hacked? Now to Decide If You Chase the Who or the How - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:22] <exec> 08└─Did this text come from The Register?
[15:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Boffins? - 06Been Hacked? Now to Decide If You Chase the Who or the How - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:24] <exec> 08└─Possibly; two of the links in the text go to the register. However there's no proper attribution line to the quote, and I'm too lazy to follow the links, so I cannot tell for sure.
[15:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:going to get worse before it gets better - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 764 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:34] <exec> 08└─I just checked the paper. Amazing they can publish a paper on the correlation between temperature and mortality without any plots of temperature vs time, mortality vs time, or temperature vs mortality. They have not even tried to find the functional form of this relationship, or anything. It is noth...
[15:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:going to get worse before it gets better - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:36] <exec> 08└─The correlation between temperature extremes, temperature swings, and mortality is already well documented and understood.
[15:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:going to get worse before it gets better - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 595 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:38] <exec> 08└─Seasonality is a fascinating topic. My specific interest is regarding infectious disease, which is often seasonal. At least in that case, the driving force behind the cycle is not clear. However, writing a paper merely noting the existence of the correlation between temperature and mortality once ag...
[15:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:going to get worse before it gets better - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:39] <exec> 08└─Not that I think you're wrong, but this would a great time to demonstrate this documentation. I don't actually know what kind of medical literature to look for.
[15:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Re:going to get worse before it gets better - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:41] <exec> 08└─unemployed and therefore uninsured
[15:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03srobert [4803] (Score:2) 02A LOT or Just the Right People. - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:42] <exec> 08└─A LOT of people die all the time. We (politicians and all of us who elect them) don't really care about those people, unless there is a real chance that we will be among them.
[15:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:A LOT or Just the Right People. - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:44] <exec> 08└─A LOT of people die all the time. We (politicians and all of us who elect them) don't really care about those people,
[15:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Perfunctory, Superficial Study - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 2582 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:47] <exec> 08└─Anecdotal (times a million people) my FiL died a couple decades ago while raking leaves, surely if yardwork kills you, you're in a really bad place and were gonna die in yer sleep a week later anyway, but none the less, if the temps were a tad lower then he'd have had less leaves to rake and surely...
[15:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02i was thinking a while back... - 06Tracing the Evolution of a Drug-Resistant Pathogen - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:03] <exec> 08└─...that this would be a benefit of the two-edged sword that is nano-bots ? ? ? forget about antibiotics, etc; couldn't search-and-destroy nano-bots be introduced to physically destroy the 'bad' bacteria, virii, cancers, etc, which would have no effective evolutionary resistance to having your corpus...
[15:15:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:We're all susceptible - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:10] <exec> 08└─Always assume your friend will be Greece! :)
[15:16:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Rule #1 - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:16:33] <exec> 08└─But enough of that happens, then the competitor will send ads in the other companies' name. (Pepsi could send blind email for Coca-Cola, for example.)
[15:17:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:Well, except at Gmail - 06Spam Rate Dropping Below 50% for the First Time in 12 Years - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:17:24] <exec> 08└─They don't use RBLs at all.
[15:18:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nobuddy [1626] (Score:2) 02Re:META: observe the moderation here - 06Global Warming Has Shifted Earth's Axis - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:18:05] <exec> 08└─Its not a matter of disagree. he's absolutely and completely wrong (assumes magnetic north not axial tilt), goes off on a rant based on his wrong perception. Troll is the closest option to this nut.
[15:18:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nobuddy [1626] (Score:2) 02Re:Holy SHIT! - 06Global Warming Has Shifted Earth's Axis - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:18:12] <exec> 08└─Its a shame that so many people listen to what 99% of the scientific world says instead of crackpots like you. The world would be such a better place with the return of acid rain and black lung.
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[16:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Thru the eye of the fallacy? - 06Been Hacked? Now to Decide If You Chase the Who or the How - 956 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:22] <exec> 08└─That's largely unknowable until after you've expended the money on finding the person and isn't likely to make you any safer. If it was a script kiddie, then you just need to patch the systems and make sure they're properly hardened. If it was somebody more organized and more determined, you're prob...
[16:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Boffins? - 06Been Hacked? Now to Decide If You Chase the Who or the How - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:26] <exec> 08└─It seams the Buffoons of the news world are using Boffins to confuse stupid people and make scientist look bad. I've seen it many times the last year.
[16:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Who/How - 06Been Hacked? Now to Decide If You Chase the Who or the How - 1199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:28] <exec> 08└─In order to find out the who, you have to already have the how anyway. You need to know what to look for in the logs, what service the IP would have used to log into and so what logs to even look at, etc. Without resolving the "how", the "who" is pretty much moot. And, to be honest, once you have th...
[16:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Wudunit - 06Been Hacked? Now to Decide If You Chase the Who or the How - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:30] <exec> 08└─"WHO" is very very important because either your on "HackerTeam" or you're on team "-0l-script-kiddy-inbasement" and the first, operating with impunity will get all the government tax-payer money for triage, whilst the latter will go to a tax-payer funded dark hole ...
[16:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:going to get worse before it gets better - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:45] <exec> 08└─Just look up seasonal mortality, you will find tons of papers. However, it is better to get the data and plot it for yourself. There are many interesting patterns (age, birth cohort effects, etc): http://www.nber.org [nber.org]
[16:14:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What about... - 06Tracing the Evolution of a Drug-Resistant Pathogen - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:06] <exec> 08└─Modern medicine is why there are no more smallpox infections. It is also why you won't die of the Black Death Plague. Bone marrow transplants, heart transplants, HIV antivirals, cancer immunotherapy, radiotherapy, chemotherapy, ... Modern medicine is amazing and it is constantly improving.
[16:14:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:i was thinking a while back... - 06Tracing the Evolution of a Drug-Resistant Pathogen - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:12] <exec> 08└─If any copies of the bacterial infection manage to escape detection and destruction by your nanobots, they'd be the only ones to successfully reproduce. So you're just changing the evolutionary pressures on the infection again, and evolution will continue to build better diseases, and we'd have to k...
[16:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Controlled detonation... - 06HitchBOT Touring the USA This Year - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:38] <exec> 08└─Are you daring Americans to behave by comparing them to Canadians? Let me go into the archives to figure out if there is evidence of this ever working...
[16:14:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02CRISPR Hype - 06Photoactivated CRISPR-Cas9 Proteins Created - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:51] <exec> 08└─Too much hype and people might think something is wrong...
[16:15:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:automate scam detection at banks? - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:15] <exec> 08└─Actually there is a much worse way to go than losing one's mind. Having the body fail to the point of helplessness while being in constant terrible pain and the mind is entirely intact. Going through a parent having this for a few weeks, I would not wish this on anyone ever.
[16:15:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:He is a "researcher" - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 733 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:49] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately the entire purpose of laws is to classify human behavior into thousands of categories - and some of those categories represent illegal activities. In the USA a felon may not buy a gun (unless he jumps through extra hoops) not because he is dangerous, but because he had been classified...
[16:16:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Soviet Russia - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:12] <exec> 08└─Colour is the one discernible difference between the two sites. That and fewer "fuck beta" threads...
[16:16:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Ethics department at the local uni - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 822 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:38] <exec> 08└─That's the main reason why I use adblockers. I make the decision once that I don't want to view ads and for the most part I don't have to think about it any more. That's why those direct to email ads are so much more effective. The people getting them are likely to read them, or at least not block t...
[16:17:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:It's a blight - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 986 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:17:10] <exec> 08└─Many companies design their sites for a specific width and ignore what resolution the browser is actually at. Any smaller than their designed resolution and you get scroll bars and any higher leaves blank spaces on the sides. SN goes down to 700px before scrolling but expands to any width. So it wou...
[16:19:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:education vs corruption - 06Can We Build a Truly Free Speech System? - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:19:30] <exec> 08└─whenever I hear someone use phrases like "consciousness raising" I picture a group of leftists sitting in a circle and bitching about the way things are
[16:19:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Free speech doesn't exist, by definition - 06Can We Build a Truly Free Speech System? - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:19:57] <exec> 08└─I am completely free to claim that quablitors frut in stadding humpels.
[16:21:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03dltaylor [4693] 02so what are the rest of them? - 06New Horizons Spurs New Calls to Make Pluto a Planet Once Again - 211 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:21:02] <exec> 08└─If Pluto is a "planet", like Mercury through Neptune, what the hell are Eris and all of the other KBOs that we're going to find? Scientists, like other humans, can have their logic shut down by emotional drives.
[16:21:07] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03zocalo [302] 02Re:so what are the rest of them? - 06New Horizons Spurs New Calls to Make Pluto a Planet Once Again - 1017 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:21:08] <exec> 08└─You have to draw the line somewhere, so the question is more on of how do you define that line and can you honestly say that you have done so without any sentimental reasoning. I don't think that's possible in the case of Pluto without also conferring planetary status on Eris and several of the othe...
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[17:13:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kilo110 [2853] (Score:3, Informative) 02Better marketing and information. - 06Building A Community For Old BBSes? - 406 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:12] <exec> 08└─Spread the word. Go to various technically-inclined forums and sites and make a thread inviting people to give it a shot. I'm sure there are many people that might be interested but have no idea these bbs exist. Also make a blog/site/thread with a guide on how to set up a client along with some newb...
[17:13:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Some notes on building a community - 06Building A Community For Old BBSes? - 1490 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:13] <exec> 08└─Building a community of any sort is not an easy task. It requires active cultivation, and maintenance; problems and drama will occur and you need to be on deck to make things better. BBSes of any sort are something of a hard sell; aside from the retro factor, there isn't a whole lot thats appealing...
[17:13:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Some notes on building a community - 06Building A Community For Old BBSes? - 482 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:15] <exec> 08└─Ok, I actually took a moment and made an account, here's a bit more advice: * Drop manual user validation. You're not going to have a huge spam problem with a BBS, and creating barriers to participation won't help you at all * Its not obvious where I can go to discuss things. There are a LOT...
[17:13:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03EQ [1716] (Score:2) 02Talk to Nyx - 06Building A Community For Old BBSes? - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:17] <exec> 08└─Nyx [nyx.net] is a similar community with similar challenges in Denver. And they have been around forever
[17:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:going to get worse before it gets better - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:51] <exec> 08└─You mean, like we can't know whether that guy who just got shot wouldn't have died from a heart attack a few seconds later anyway?
[17:13:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A LOT or Just the Right People. - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:57] <exec> 08└─The politician will care about them if there is a real chance that doing so will get him re-elected.
[17:14:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"not reviewing cheese pizza" - 06South Korean Intelligence Employee Commits Suicide Over Hacking Scandal - 541 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:33] <exec> 08└─accidentally stumbled upon a website were (mature(*)) couples could post there "after sex" selfies. this publicly accessible picture collection made me depressed, being a bit of a loner and all, but if you're a upstanding citizen with a "moral compass" and you suddenly get to open pandoras box of "p...
[17:14:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Burning question - 06Photoactivated CRISPR-Cas9 Proteins Created - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:15:00] <exec> 08└─Has anyone reached out to Insane Clown Posse for their comments on this development?
[17:15:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I used Plutonium on sophomore physics lab - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:49] <exec> 08└─i don't understand why people don't know that neutrons are acctually zippers for the stable reality curtain: once you start zipping, it mostly runs all the way down. sometimes the curtain catches on you and runs you down too!
[17:16:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:He is a "researcher" - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:00] <exec> 08└─Which is why he gets a suspended sentence. Said suspended sentence is too long for my taste (you get less than that in many places for robbery or grand theft), but it's a warning to be mindful that the law applies to "researchers" who import random banned stuff from abroad.
[17:17:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03hankwang [100] (Score:2) 02Re:It's a blight - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:23] <exec> 08└─"If you've seen the mobile version of the site lately," [Plug] That's why I browse that (green) site mostly using avantslash - http://avantslash.org [avantslash.org] . There's also a version for Soylentnews at http://soylitenews.org [soylitenews.org] (not operated by me).
[17:17:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score:1) 02Re:Well, except at Gmail - 06Spam Rate Dropping Below 50% for the First Time in 12 Years - 549 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:46] <exec> 08└─That might work for other services but does not work with Google's Gmail. Using their web interface to 'train' the filter seems to have no effect. Some of the mailing lists having trouble are pretty obscure and fairly technical so it is unlikely that someone has accidentally subscribed or been subsc...
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[18:13:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02So, someone got caught? - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:10] <exec> 08└─And now they think the ideal way to deal with their infidelity is several federal felonies?
[18:13:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Assinine - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:11] <exec> 08└─Another case where both parties should fuck each other over into utter mutual destruction.
[18:13:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Lying - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:13] <exec> 08└─The group is threatening to release all data online as a result of alleged lies the ALM group told members unless the sites are entirely shut down.
[18:13:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:2) 02Once agian the logic of my past decisions is sound - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:15] <exec> 08└─I figured that AM being an internet site played by the rules of the internet. One of the rules states that there are no women on the internet, only men. Men not being my thing I decided to steer clear of AM. I have dodged another bullet with logic.
[18:13:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Krebson - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:16] <exec> 08└─Krebson Security ey? Nice name...
[18:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:going to get worse before it gets better - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 493 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:02] <exec> 08└─Well, nominally speaking, that's a bit apt. The problem is that framing is that it represents a single discrete death. A case where we can really dig in and examine everything involved. Here, we're talking about a trend modeled against a hypothesized trend. Keep in mind here, I don't think the analy...
[18:14:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:A LOT or Just the Right People. - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:08] <exec> 08└─That doesn't seem to be an issue in Florida.
[18:14:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:This is how they roll in korea - 06South Korean Intelligence Employee Commits Suicide Over Hacking Scandal - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:42] <exec> 08└─I see it as a natural extension of their focus on "Face". From Wikipedia: "The term face idiomatically refers to one's own sense of dignity or prestige in social contexts." Losing Face in the Asian world is seen in some cases as worse than death. In some cases they may feel the only way to mitigate...
[18:15:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Does it count as occupancy? - 06HitchBOT Touring the USA This Year - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:15:04] <exec> 08└─If having this robot counts towards using an HOV lane, I predict it will travel lots of miles, but the same ones twice a day, five days a week.
[18:15:37] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03dyingtolive [952] 02Re:automate scam detection at banks? - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 1856 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:15:37] <exec> 08└─A lot of the problem comes from third party services. Western Union are scumbags who will gladly move any amount of money anywhere without any question, and it's the complacent medium by which any competent scammer does his work. My grandparents got taken for a few thousand a couple years ago. Appa...
[18:17:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Ethics department at the local uni - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 557 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:17:10] <exec> 08└─Indeed. Not just not tempted to buy, but not even tempted to read. More so, not even tempted to see - I normally don't even read spams that get through my filter as I delete them all at the from/subject stage. If I don't recognise the sender, or the subject isn't something specific that a stranger I...
[18:17:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03everdred [110] (Score:2) 02Re:You bring this up at a bad time - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:17:24] <exec> 08└─Hi, copywriter here. You're pretty much mostly right.
[18:18:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Holy SHIT! - 06Global Warming Has Shifted Earth's Axis - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:18:55] <exec> 08└─whoa - wait a second. I missed that 99% of the scientific world had verified that the movement of the norht pole(s) had radically changed DUE TO GLOBAL WARMING. You have exactly one crackpot publishing a paper online here. The link doesn't even go to a peer reviewed paper, just some crackpot's blog...
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[19:13:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Assinine - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:14] <exec> 08└─One party (the hackers) committed a crime, the other (adulterers and website) didn't.
[19:13:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Assinine - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 618 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:15] <exec> 08└─From TFA: According to the hackers, although the “full delete” feature that Ashley Madison advertises promises “removal of site usage history and personally identifiable information from the site,” users’ purchase details — including real name and address — aren’t actually scrubbed....
[19:13:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lying - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:18] <exec> 08└─> They're lying. $0? Whatever. It sounds like you are discrediting their claim solely on your belief that people can have no other motivations than money. As if no one who could hack that site might possibly hold a grudge for enabling someone to hurt them.
[19:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03zafiro17 [234] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Lying - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 1558 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:20] <exec> 08└─All it takes is one or two talented hackers who have personally been betrayed by people they loved. Then to see something like Ashley Madison, encouraging people to go out and screw over people who trust them must seem unfathomably galling. It starts to look like a target. Not coincidentally, it's a...
[19:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Lying - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:21] <exec> 08└─Why "neo"con? I think you're misusing the term. Neocons are people who want to turn conservative policy towards excessive geopolitical meddling and free market absolutism(and would you kindly ignore that those two are contradictions). You're thinking of full on hyper-traditionalist regressives, who...
[19:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Once agian the logic of my past decisions is so - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:23] <exec> 08└─That, plus the rule "nothing ever gets deleted on the Internet."
[19:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Krebson - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:25] <exec> 08└─I capped "On" in my dupe submission, but that is how it is stylized in his logo.
[19:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02"extracurricular activity"... - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 424 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:26] <exec> 08└─"full delete" cannot exist under the law, as you need to keep records of the people for usually 3 years after you charge their credit card. A full audit of these companies would be fun for the IRS auditors, for sure. On a related note, an old saying proven once again true "it's better if he gets a p...
[19:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Disagree) 02Re:"extracurricular activity"... - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:28] <exec> 08└─> "full delete" cannot exist under the law, as you need to keep records of the people for usually 3 years after you charge their credit card. Not true. There is no such law.
[19:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02DBA fears - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:30] <exec> 08└─DBAs fear the ON DELETE CASCADE [wikipedia.org]. Just let it happen.. let all the data go free.. It would help if they didn't design every table with at least two foreign keys to the "users" table. LastUpdatedBy, CreatedBy, LastModifiedBy, LastViewedBy, and so on. You try to delete a user and half o...
[19:13:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03archfeld [4650] (Score:2) 02Time to start getting serious... - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 498 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:32] <exec> 08└─The FBI and the NSA should hunt these FSCK'n douche nozzles down and exert some MAXIMUM justice on them. I'd say deportation to Russia if they are here in the US, or liquidation if they are else where. The time for coddling hackers and blackmailers like these guys has long gone by. How many register...
[19:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03morgauxo [2082] (Score:2) 02Re:Time to start getting serious... - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:35] <exec> 08└─Sounds like somebody has something to hide doesn't he?
[19:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Krebs loading slow - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:37] <exec> 08└─KrebsOnSecurity/KrebsonSecurity or Krebsexcurity is loading really slow. Don't kid yourself that it is being Soylentdotted. It is being slammed by Washington Post, NPR, and maybe a few of the "37 million" account holders.
[19:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02No Worries... - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:39] <exec> 08└─At least we can be certain that no one reading SN was affected by this. I'm sure none of your moms would allow a high end hooker to hang out with you in the basement. Just sayin'.
[19:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No Worries... - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:40] <exec> 08└─I suspect SN's demographic is 10-15 years older than the other site's. Same gender though.
[19:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Some notes on building a community - 06Building A Community For Old BBSes? - 1583 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:44] <exec> 08└─I am going to guess you were not a child of the 80s, based on your assumptions and advice. I can't think of any BBSes that had access to usenet. That came near their end, often via add-ons that tricked the BBS into accepting the data as new forum posts. A few software packages had fidonet and usenet...
[19:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Some notes on building a community - 06Building A Community For Old BBSes? - 1199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:46] <exec> 08└─I was born in '88, so I wasn't around for the "golden age" of BBSes. My earliest computing experiences was via a shell account on a SGI IRIX box at my dad's work I could dial into called brenner. Pretty sure someone plugged it in ages ago and never removed it; I don't ever remember anyone showing up...
[19:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03zafiro17 [234] (Score:2) 02Go full Alter - 06Building A Community For Old BBSes? - 915 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:47] <exec> 08└─I'd push the "we're not the web" angle hard and make it appeal to bearded hipster millennials trying desperately to stay outside the mainstream. These are niche sites, really, so there's not a huge audience for them. But the right people will be interested. (I should know about niche: I started my o...
[19:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03zafiro17 [234] (Score:2) 02Re:Go full Alter - 06Building A Community For Old BBSes? - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:50] <exec> 08└─Just poking around a bit, looks like alt.bbs.lists would be a good place to get publicity and perhaps meet other sysops who would be willing to help get the word out. They're almost certainly in the same boat as you, if not worse.
[19:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Reddit and ads - 06Building A Community For Old BBSes? - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:52] <exec> 08└─Reddit has /r/bbs, so information there would be good. Also, FidoNet and the like are still active and have BBS ad bases. There are things like fTelnet that make BBS's more accessible to those that do not wish to setup a telnet client as well
[19:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03archfeld [4650] (Score:2) 02Re:Thru the eye of the fallacy? - 06Been Hacked? Now to Decide If You Chase the Who or the How - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:03] <exec> 08└─Send a few of these delinquents to prison for 25 years and suddenly others might think of something else better to do with their time. We've been letting them get away with it for 20 years and it hasn't helped, time to try the ROD, with a few MAXIMUM whacks. Hacking into a 50,000$ server should easi...
[19:14:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:A LOT or Just the Right People. - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:31] <exec> 08└─a) that isn't true
[19:14:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Confirmed - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:40] <exec> 08└─The increased heat is causing unexpected cold snaps. Ask anybody in the American Mid-west what the last two years have been like.
[19:15:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is how they roll in korea - 06South Korean Intelligence Employee Commits Suicide Over Hacking Scandal - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:09] <exec> 08└─That is part of the point with gun violence in the US I think. A loss of dignity or disgust points outward in western cultures, inward in eastern cultures.
[19:15:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe [2583] (Score:2) 02Mutagenic Chain Reaction - 06Photoactivated CRISPR-Cas9 Proteins Created - 522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:43] <exec> 08└─This new development would be useful as an additional layer of control of the CRISPR system. CRISPR can already be controlled at the transcriptional level and now it can also be controlled post-translationally. These layers of control will help prevent off-target effects of leaky or always-on applic...
[19:16:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:automate scam detection at banks? - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 614 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:16:09] <exec> 08└─Good point, and that does sound pretty sad. The state of assisted suicide (in the US) has really fallen to the point where the Christians (et al) have forced us to passively torture through inaction older and infirm people until they finally go. It's perpetually baffling to me that 12 slack-jawed mo...
[19:16:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:We're all susceptible - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 419 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:16:18] <exec> 08└─If you want to retain control over your friend's spending, then you do the spending for them. Don't give them $1000 for rent; write a check for $1000 and deliver it to the landlord personally. Don't give them $200 for groceries; go to the store and buy them what they need. And so on. Your friends wo...
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[20:13:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Weatherman.. - 06Why Aren't Supercomputers Getting Faster Like They Used To? - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:15] <exec> 08└─A faster computer with shitty models = shitty results faster. Even if the models are awesome, for the sake of argument, to be really good at predicting stuff they'd need lots more inputs[like millions of cell phone sensor reports] for the model to get half way decent accuracy. Then the high crunchin...
[20:13:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Weatherman.. - 06Why Aren't Supercomputers Getting Faster Like They Used To? - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:16] <exec> 08└─Considering the mountains in the area, the fact that the prediction at 3 days is more often accurate than not is pretty darn good. The 5-day one is a fairly reliable indicator too. But my forecast is biased by the big puddle to the left. When I was in the plains, they usually had the right patterns,...
[20:13:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02just wait longer - 06Why Aren't Supercomputers Getting Faster Like They Used To? - 977 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:18] <exec> 08└─Moore's law slowdown and Intel's tick-tock-tock will definitely contribute by delaying the release of 10nm Intel Xeon Phi. On the coprocessor front, GPUs have been stuck on 28nm for years. Procurement cycles have lengthened. Why replace your 5 petaflops supercomputer with a 20 petaflops supercompute...
[20:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Pay the money - 06Why Aren't Supercomputers Getting Faster Like They Used To? - 2762 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:19] <exec> 08└─The article seems to summarize to, if they were willing to pay enough money, which they aren't... There was the usual fluff at the end about weather modeling, but more practically speaking "they" might be running out of applications for computation. Logic would dictate that eventually you run out of...
[20:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score:2) 02A headline question... - 06Why Aren't Supercomputers Getting Faster Like They Used To? - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:21] <exec> 08└─Usually I answer "no" to a headline question but to this one I have to answer "money."
[20:13:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Assinine - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:34] <exec> 08└─I just deleted all your data from my records. Your credit card will now be charged the $200.000 you had agreed to pay for this service. For your safety and anonymity, you will not receive a duplicate of your receipt.
[20:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:Assinine - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:35] <exec> 08└─Also, I just looked at the AshleyMadison site to see if it has any clear warnings about a data breach. I didn't see any, but did see these claims: Over 37,610,000 anonymous members!
[20:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:Assinine - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:38] <exec> 08└─That doesn't make it okay to lie to your customers about data security and sell them false promises for $20 a pop, though.
[20:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Assinine - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:39] <exec> 08└─Banks worldwide stole trillions of dollars from taxpayers...legally. Don't make it 'OK'.
[20:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Lying - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:42] <exec> 08└─She's cheating on you, bro
[20:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lying - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:44] <exec> 08└─In fact, as I play out this little fantasy, I think I would wait until they shut down the website, and then release the personal info ANYWAY. Just to be a dick. Not the credit card info, the awful, personal, sexual stuff. Those folks fucked up big time by joining that site. They shouldn't get away t...
[20:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Re:Once agian the logic of my past decisions is so - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:46] <exec> 08└─...even if you pay 19$ for it.
[20:13:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:"extracurricular activity"... - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:51] <exec> 08└─"full delete" cannot exist under the law, as you need to keep records of the people for usually 3 years after you charge their credit card.
[20:13:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Re:DBA fears - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:53] <exec> 08└─Make a logical flag for "deleted" and zero out all account details/posts/events/conversations/whatever for the desired outcome. It's not rocket science.
[20:13:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Time to start getting serious... - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 758 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:56] <exec> 08└─They should be punished, because this is illegal. But, the people who will be hurt by this are people that are cheating on their spouses or are the other woman/man that are facilitating it. People that are in open relationships can use just about any dating site they like and generally disclose that...
[20:13:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Time to start getting serious... - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:57] <exec> 08└─That all ignores the social stigma. Lots of people in open relationships can't advertise it too openly lest their community judge them harshly for it. And "get a new community" is not an option for normal people.
[20:14:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02So some dumbass used a website to cheat... - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:01] <exec> 08└─on their spouse and now the site has been hacked. Ahhh, revenge is sweet.
[20:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Some notes on building a community - 06Building A Community For Old BBSes? - 539 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:14] <exec> 08└─Alright, you are forgiven. However, you are an influential member of this site as well as elsewhere, and sometimes you make statements that can be perceived as fact by others, but may not be accurate (consider the dwarf guides--lots of well thought out ideas, but with some details that were not accu...
[20:14:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Some notes on building a community - 06Building A Community For Old BBSes? - 586 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:15] <exec> 08└─I probably should change my signature to say "Can be wrong, corrections welcome" ... I did manage to figure out how to use the ISCA BBS after some trial and error, I was chatting in Babble> for awhile. That being said, I'm slightly suprised since I can't imagine that many people frequent /r/dwarffor...
[20:14:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:going to get worse before it gets better - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:55] <exec> 08└─Start here [wikipedia.org]. Then google "Heat related deaths U.S."
[20:14:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:going to get worse before it gets better - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:57] <exec> 08└─Ouch. I was hoping for a bit more than "here's an example and google it".
[20:14:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02Re:going to get worse before it gets better - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 2784 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:15:00] <exec> 08└─The first assumption is our government is honest and effective and the regulation change has any effect on climate change at all. Oh we'll get regulation change, probably just to transfer more wealth to the wealthy. I find the odds of the regulation change having any effect on climate to not be much...
[20:16:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:We're all susceptible - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 888 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:16:48] <exec> 08└─Driveby downloads are a much more viable course of action and you don't have to share your source code that way. The minute malware makers start making their software open source, is the hour we get a lot better malware detection. Scammers are always trying to get your information, so they can overc...
[20:20:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Wait … - 06Global Warming Has Shifted Earth's Axis - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:20:19] <exec> 08└─Interesting. However, as far as I can see, the Wikipedia article does not mention how the north pole is determined for those coordinates. Which means it doesn't answer the very question if the rotational axis can move relative to those coordinates.
[20:20:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03penguinoid [5331] (Score:2) 02Re:No - 06Can We Build a Truly Free Speech System? - 988 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:20:47] <exec> 08└─I've been wondering about what would happen with a different moderation system -- it would have to keep track of who moderated which post, and build up something like a web of trust but for moderation. However, it would need some sort of division into groups, which in English would summarize to "res...
[20:20:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:No - 06Can We Build a Truly Free Speech System? - 1287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:20:48] <exec> 08└─I like a mix of the moderation idea with a automatically splinering net, so that you can choose not to hear, e.g., fart jokes. This requires a rather formidable filter that adapts to the user, which probably means it should run locally. Essentially it's a development of an adaptive spam filter. Just...
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[21:13:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02Re:Weatherman.. - 06Why Aren't Supercomputers Getting Faster Like They Used To? - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:13] <exec> 08└─If you want an accurate weatherman, move. Phoenix has a pretty accurate weather forecast.
[21:13:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Weatherman.. - 06Why Aren't Supercomputers Getting Faster Like They Used To? - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:15] <exec> 08└─Is it expressed in "minutes to fry an egg on your hood while you steam buns in your trunk"?
[21:13:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Weatherman.. - 06Why Aren't Supercomputers Getting Faster Like They Used To? - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:17] <exec> 08└─Weather predictions are quite accurate out to a day or two. This old canard needs to DIAF. If you compare outcomes to predictions over tie then you'll find that a "90% chance of rain" really does mean 9 times out of 10 it rained. But humans don't notice the 9 times it was correct - only the 1 time i...
[21:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Beryllium Sphere (r) (5062) (Score:2) 02The other good way to use computing power - 06Why Aren't Supercomputers Getting Faster Like They Used To? - 510 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:18] <exec> 08└─Data are limited and uncertain, and the system goes through periods when small changes have big results. One cool thing meteorologists do is run the same model repeatedly with inputs slightly off from the reported ones. If the output is pretty much the same, they know that they're in an interval whe...
[21:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:just wait longer - 06Why Aren't Supercomputers Getting Faster Like They Used To? - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:21] <exec> 08└─I'm holding out for the tachyon chip that spits out the answer before getting the input.
[21:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:A headline question... - 06Why Aren't Supercomputers Getting Faster Like They Used To? - 517 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:23] <exec> 08└─You could elaborate just a little bit. "Bang for the buck" would fit better. There's enough money to do it quickly, IF the bigwigs felt the need to do so. But, it's not like mankind's survival depends on another petaflop computer. What we have is "good enough", and the decision makers are allowing s...
[21:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03cafebabe [894] (Score:2) 02Blame The Chinese - 06Why Aren't Supercomputers Getting Faster Like They Used To? - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:25] <exec> 08└─The number of computing clusters is growing but the largest clusters aren't growing particularly fast. This is due to the Chinese adding more nodes to their ludicrously scalable switching fabric when any party gets close to attaining the record.
[21:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Blame The Chinese - 06Why Aren't Supercomputers Getting Faster Like They Used To? - 580 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:27] <exec> 08└─It is a myth that supercomputers are built simply to top the LINPACK list. National prestige is a very small part of what they are used for. The Chinese would have added nodes sooner [soylentnews.org] if it weren't for the recent and wrongheaded export ban to their supercomputing centers. Now they a...
[21:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Assinine - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:40] <exec> 08└─Easy per-user encrypted keys stored in a database with a sign in unlocking said key. They can back up all they want, but they are only getting the encrypted data. Secure delete on their end equals DELETE FROM userkeys WHERE username=$deleted_user;
[21:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Assinine - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 540 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:41] <exec> 08└─You would be smart to question their "FULL DELETE" offer, obviously. Does the fact that a large number of users are more gullible/ignorant than you make it acceptable to lie to those users and sell them a service you can't deliver? Is it okay for me to launch a website that advertises a "FULL DELETE...
[21:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:Assinine - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:44] <exec> 08└─adultery is still illegal [wikipedia.org] in many US states. marriage is a contract, after all, and enforcing contracts is one of the responsibilities of government, otherwise there's no point to them.
[21:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Assinine - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 1687 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:45] <exec> 08└─https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2012/11/15/adultery-still-crime-states-including-mass/KiIPGRcFnAeT4CGmenFTKM/story.html [bostonglobe.com] When David H. Petraeus resigned as CIA director because of adultery, he was widely understood to be acknowledging a misdeed but not a crime. Yet in his s...
[21:13:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03zafiro17 [234] 02Re:Lying - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 1558 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:48] <exec> 08└─All it takes is one or two talented hackers who have personally been betrayed by people they loved. Then to see something like Ashley Madison, encouraging people to go out and screw over people who trust them must seem unfathomably galling. It starts to look like a target. Not coincidentally, it's a...
[21:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Lying - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:51] <exec> 08└─In fact, as I play out this little fantasy, I think I would wait until they shut down the website, and then release the personal info ANYWAY.
[21:13:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:Lying - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:53] <exec> 08└─But I can guarantee you, if I found out she'd been sleeping around, just knowing there's a site out there saying "Go on, do it - fuck over guys like zafiro17 at our super awesome website service" would be like a steady roar of outrage slowly consuming my brain. So I totally get where these hackers a...
[21:13:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Alfred [4006] 02Once agian the logic of my past decisions is sound - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 248 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:55] <exec> 08└─I figured that AM being an internet site played by the rules of the internet. One of the rules states that there are no women on the internet, only men. Men not being my thing I decided to steer clear of AM. I have dodged another bullet with logic.
[21:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03arulatas [3600] (Score:2) 02Re:"extracurricular activity"... - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:02] <exec> 08└─Maybe keep them in an offline backup? Just saying.
[21:14:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Time to start getting serious... - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:09] <exec> 08└─Are you talking about the website or the crackers?
[21:14:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:4, Funny) 02Re:Krebs loading slow - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:12] <exec> 08└─I wonder if we all listen very carefully if we can finally know the sound of 37 million bricks being shat.
[21:14:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Perhaps tangental - 06Building A Community For Old BBSes? - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:33] <exec> 08└─I've occasionally wondered (purely idly) what it would take to get FIDO up and running with TCP sessions emulating modem connections (including for batch transfers).
[21:14:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02I wish you luck - 06Building A Community For Old BBSes? - 1067 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:35] <exec> 08└─I'm a mod on a somewhat similar site. We never had the numbers that you had on your board, but we did have an active membership for quite a long while. It became apparent that younger poeple weren't much interested in our board. Then, some of the staff started dying off. Membership declined for vari...
[21:14:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02For the young 'uns (i.e. what is a BBS?) - 06Building A Community For Old BBSes? - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:36] <exec> 08└─And of course for the retro/nostalgia crowd with grey beards! https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] (cc by-sa)
[21:15:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:going to get worse before it gets better - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:15:14] <exec> 08└─I don't really have time to cut/paste a thousand google hits.
[21:15:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:going to get worse before it gets better - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:15:16] <exec> 08└─And it wouldn't. I'm sorry, but this isn't the kind of record I was hoping for. I'm looking for rigorous science and not news articles. It's okay. I'm not trying to extract what you don't have, nor am I trying to defend the opposite point from what you're presenting.
[21:15:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:going to get worse before it gets better - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:15:22] <exec> 08└─If you're not working, you don't deserve to live. That's the very core of US society.
[21:15:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A LOT or Just the Right People. - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:15:25] <exec> 08└─by redirecting their food and healthcare monies to fight against AGW
[21:15:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Politicians caring for their people - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 1227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:15:27] <exec> 08└─6,000,000,000 That number is from the last century. The number has been over 7 billion since 2011. how many people are you willing to kill today (by redirecting their food and healthcare monies to fight against AGW) Riiight. More austerity. Typical Reactionary. How about instead of that we dial back...
[21:15:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Perfunctory, Superficial Study - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:15:34] <exec> 08└─they just note some increases in temps, some increases in death rates, and presume that the two numbers are related
[21:16:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Disgusting. - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:16:57] <exec> 08└─Its your job as a member of their family to proptect them when they can no longer protect themselves.
[21:17:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:automate scam detection at banks? - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:17:06] <exec> 08└─Western Union are scumbags who will gladly move any amount of money anywhere without any question,
[21:17:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:We're all susceptible - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:17:16] <exec> 08└─I got news for you: these people you consider your friends, aren't. And they don't really think of you as a friend, either. They think of you as a sucker, an easy mark. Get some new, less shitty, friends. Don't wait. Do it now. Just sayin'.
[21:18:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02The United States has it's own propaganda - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 3908 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:54] <exec> 08└─"The United States has it's own propaganda, but it's very effective because people don't realize that it's propaganda. And it's subtle, but it's actually a much stronger propaganda machine than the Nazis had but it's funded in a different way. With the Nazis it was funded by the government, but in t...
[21:18:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] 02Re:The United States has it's own propaganda - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 40 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:18:55] <exec> 08└─Great argument for Bernie Sanders, 2016.
[21:21:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:education vs corruption - 06Can We Build a Truly Free Speech System? - 8 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:21:30] <exec> 08└─assuming
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[22:13:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:The other good way to use computing power - 06Why Aren't Supercomputers Getting Faster Like They Used To? - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:32] <exec> 08└─Everybody seems to remember chaos theory for Jeff Goldblum's crazy role in "Jurassic Park", but almost nobody seems to remember what it actually means :-(
[22:13:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Re:Weatherman.. - 06Why Aren't Supercomputers Getting Faster Like They Used To? - 784 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:34] <exec> 08└─If you think it's bad now, just wait for 2016. Our Weather satellites (esp. polar orbiting sats) didn't get funding soon enough and we'll have even shittier data to feed the models, esp. after the west coast GOES13 sat failed. [space.com] The rest of the world made the US the butt of a joke since we...
[22:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score:2) 02Re:just wait longer - 06Why Aren't Supercomputers Getting Faster Like They Used To? - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:36] <exec> 08└─That'll be 42 then. Never needing to to know the question. It is overrated. (can I get my H2GT2G sticker now?)
[22:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:just wait longer - 06Why Aren't Supercomputers Getting Faster Like They Used To? - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:38] <exec> 08└─Procurement cycles have lengthened. Why replace your 5 petaflops supercomputer with a 20 petaflops supercomputer when you can wait a couple of years longer and get 100-200 petaflops?
[22:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:just wait longer - 06Why Aren't Supercomputers Getting Faster Like They Used To? - 1295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:39] <exec> 08└─IBM is throwing around lots of ideas. They've got the 7nm demo, they have all-optical chips, they have neuromorphic chips, they have quantum chips. Neuromorphic+quantum are potentially narrow purpose methods of computing. "Give me 1 exaflops to simulate a cat brain" doesn't make much sense to me. Fi...
[22:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Pay the money - 06Why Aren't Supercomputers Getting Faster Like They Used To? - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:41] <exec> 08└─Traditionally a lot of the money comes from nuclear warhead simulation. That too has a finite appetite for flops.
[22:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Pay the money - 06Why Aren't Supercomputers Getting Faster Like They Used To? - 1391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:43] <exec> 08└─http://www.ncsa.illinois.edu/ [illinois.edu] http://www.livescience.com [livescience.com] http://www.information-age.com [information-age.com] http://www.extremetech.com
[22:13:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:A headline question... - 06Why Aren't Supercomputers Getting Faster Like They Used To? - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:44] <exec> 08└─You are right. They are subject to the realities of chipmaking. 14nm, 10nm, and 7nm chips may boost performance and power efficiency, but they have to wait on the chipmakers. The chipmakers have to wait on ASML Holdings to finish extreme ultraviolet lithography.
[22:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Re:Blame The Chinese - 06Why Aren't Supercomputers Getting Faster Like They Used To? - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:47] <exec> 08└─Is there in general an allocation of funding towards flexibility and scalability rather than raw flops? I could imagine many organizations getting to the point where they're primarily focused on managing access and maintenance rather than building out the capacity needed for specific projects. Amazo...
[22:14:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03redbear762 [5576] (Score:1) 02Re:Assinine - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:08] <exec> 08└─Patraeus's career hasn't been harmed in any significant way except for a major black eye and known as a cheating asshole to just about everyone; hehas been called back to serve as a de facto consultant against ISIS.
[22:14:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"extracurricular activity"... - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:26] <exec> 08└─> Maybe not, but the information has to be kept as charges can be disputed Kept by the payment processor, not the site. Which means, if the site did it right, there would be no way to go from the site's user list to the identity on the payment itself. (1) Not a law (2) Not even a requirement for re...
[22:14:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02DBA fears - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:30] <exec> 08└─"DBAs fear the ON DELETE CASCADE" Real DBAs have duplexed redo logs with archiving (or the equivalent point in time recovery capability), which greatly reduces the fear. What they really fear is slowly seeding errors into the data over time so that a considerable number of backups as well as the cur...
[22:14:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score:2) 02They beat me to it. - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:42] <exec> 08└─I seriously contemplated attacking that site multiple times. That's the only one I wanted to really destroy. No, they didn't do anything to me or anyone I know, but the principle is so abhorrent, I'd like to see their servers melt into black goo.
[22:14:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:They beat me to it. - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:44] <exec> 08└─Having a site for married cheaters was probably a effective way to remove them from polluting the pool of singles looking for casual hookups.
[22:14:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:2) 02Not quite 37 million cheaters - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 568 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:46] <exec> 08└─There's not a perfect overlap between cheaters & the AM customer base. AM is a greedy site (I mean, $20 account delete?) and it's less for cheaters and more for skittish people desperate enough to feed the meter constantly. Most of them have something to hide but a few are just plain ol' lonely. Not...
[22:15:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Go full Alter - 06Building A Community For Old BBSes? - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:15:02] <exec> 08└─What, if any, news servers carry your hierarchy? If I can ever get around to it, I'd love to see a soylentnews.* heirarchy. I experimented with it awhile ago, but never got it working reliably (though I knew how to fix it, just never did it). Also, the SoylentNews gopher server has been partially co...
[22:15:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Perhaps tangental - 06Building A Community For Old BBSes? - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:15:05] <exec> 08└─Fido supports "OtherNets", but Wikipedia suggests the original Fidonet is still alive and kicking. A brief Googling didn't show anything, but there's got to be at least a few nodes still around connected to each zone.
[22:15:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Re:Thru the eye of the fallacy? - 06Been Hacked? Now to Decide If You Chase the Who or the How - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:15:22] <exec> 08└─Someone has broken the window. How do you spend your money on fixing the window and moving on? Or do you spend money on chasing down who broke the window and try to reclaim funds or retribution?
[22:16:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:Confirmed - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:16:09] <exec> 08└─It's the Climate Change version of "turtles all the way down"
[22:17:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:automate scam detection at banks? - 06Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women - 1565 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:17:41] <exec> 08└─And I felt that too even as I posted it. I get what you're saying. Paypal really pisses me off like that. What it came down to when I thought further about it was that the problem is that any sort of regulation or inspection of the transfer of those funds is only subject to the whims and best intere...
[22:18:05] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Dunbal [3515] 02Re:I used Plutonium on sophomore physics lab - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 170 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:18:06] <exec> 08└─But plutonium can't make you high, so it's ok. The problem is only with chemicals that can induce euphoria because artificially feeling good is bad, mmkay, don't do that.
[22:18:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:He is a "researcher" - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:18:26] <exec> 08└─"It could have been worse." isn't a justification for anything.
[22:18:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A solar battery researcher? Or a drug manufactu - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:18:33] <exec> 08└─"I was just doing my job." is no excuse. If the police are enforcing unjust and unethical laws, then they themselves also unjust and unethical. These laws are ridiculous to begin with. The war on drugs is truly disgusting.
[22:18:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:What's missing: Why GBL is banned - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:18:42] <exec> 08└─Recreational drugs shouldn't be banned in the first place. And the mere fact that something could be abused does not mean it should be banned. Using that logic, we should ban knives, hands, feet, and everything else in existence. This is just authoritarian nonsense, and sadly it is not limited to co...
[22:18:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Yet another victim - 06Russian Researcher Invents New Solar Battery, Gets 3yr Suspended Sentence - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:18:50] <exec> 08└─Yet another victim to the bullshit "War on Drugs". When will the madness, destruction of lives, and waste of money known as prohibition finally end?
[22:19:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Ethics department at the local uni - 06How Morally Justifiable is Advertising? - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:19:18] <exec> 08└─Yes, a predictable response. But there are exceptions to everything. If you don't even believe what I tell you about myself, there's not much I can do or say. My purchasing choices simply do not show advertising influence; that's not what I base my decisions on. If people choose to listen to adverti...
[22:21:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Quite a leap - 06Global Warming Has Shifted Earth's Axis - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:21:13] <exec> 08└─which is the more extraordinary - ... or your claim that their claim is extraordinary.
[22:22:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Free speech doesn't exist, by definition - 06Can We Build a Truly Free Speech System? - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:22:37] <exec> 08└─People who repeat talking points by definition do not realize their own profound stupidity.
[22:22:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Free speech doesn't exist, by definition - 06Can We Build a Truly Free Speech System? - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:22:38] <exec> 08└─You do understand the profound stupidity of what you have just said?
[22:22:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03ThePhilips [5677] (Score:1) 02Re:Free speech doesn't exist, by definition - 06Can We Build a Truly Free Speech System? - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:22:39] <exec> 08└─Speech is *technically* an act, but a far different kind of act. Don't conflate that with actions that can cause direct harm. The only thing the speaker can be at fault for is speaking. The people who choose to react to that speech in ways that are directly harmful to others are at fault for their o...
[22:23:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:so what are the rest of them? - 06New Horizons Spurs New Calls to Make Pluto a Planet Once Again - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:23:50] <exec> 08└─But knowing Pluto's name would be useful? Do explain how, and be specific, pointing to several instances where knowing its and only its name would be useful, but none of the others would be useful to know in similar situations.
[22:23:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:so what are the rest of them? - 06New Horizons Spurs New Calls to Make Pluto a Planet Once Again - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:23:59] <exec> 08└─Every book and paper written before 2006 refers to it as a planet, every educated person over the age of 5 knows it as a planet, changing it created a source of error and ambiguity for years to come and has created a pointless and distracting division in the astronomical community...
[22:24:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:so what are the rest of them? - 06New Horizons Spurs New Calls to Make Pluto a Planet Once Again - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:24:02] <exec> 08└─What does that have to do with anything?
[22:24:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:IAU should re-define "planet" - 06New Horizons Spurs New Calls to Make Pluto a Planet Once Again - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:24:19] <exec> 08└─written to specifically exclude Pluto.
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[23:13:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02what a waste - 06Stephen Hawking and Yuri Milner Announce $100 Million "Breakthrough Listen" SETI Project - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:13:17] <exec> 08└─Its their money but what a waste of it...
[23:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:what a waste - 06Stephen Hawking and Yuri Milner Announce $100 Million "Breakthrough Listen" SETI Project - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:18] <exec> 08└─"Signals" are just light. They are using existing telescopes and pointing them at stars. All data will be openly available. So they are paying astronomers to do astronomy. Not exactly a waste.
[23:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"Signals" are just light. - 06Stephen Hawking and Yuri Milner Announce $100 Million "Breakthrough Listen" SETI Project - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:19] <exec> 08└─They are using radio telescopes
[23:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:"Signals" are just light. - 06Stephen Hawking and Yuri Milner Announce $100 Million "Breakthrough Listen" SETI Project - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:21] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_astronomy [wikipedia.org]
[23:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:what a waste - 06Stephen Hawking and Yuri Milner Announce $100 Million "Breakthrough Listen" SETI Project - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:23] <exec> 08└─Why is it a waste?
[23:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Already impressive results - 06 Deep Sea Robots Will Monitor the Oceans for Pollution - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:13:30] <exec> 08└─The probe already is detecting CO2 pollution everywhere. Its as if the ocean is alive with it. Therefore it is worse than what we thought - $78 Trillion US now or the ocean gets it ;)
[23:13:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Already impressive results - 06 Deep Sea Robots Will Monitor the Oceans for Pollution - 579 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:31] <exec> 08└─http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-29746880 [bbc.com] Sir Mark Walport warns that the acidity of the oceans has increased by about 25% since the industrial revolution, mainly thanks to manmade emissions. CO2 reacts with the sea water to form carbonic acid. He told BBC News: “If we carry...
[23:13:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02[citation needed] - 06 Deep Sea Robots Will Monitor the Oceans for Pollution - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:13:33] <exec> 08└─A new set of gliders is being developed by a group of 19 European research organizations that will be able to go deeper than any other underwater robots have gone before, to 5,000 meters below the surface.
[23:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:[citation needed] - 06 Deep Sea Robots Will Monitor the Oceans for Pollution - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:35] <exec> 08└─By 'they' I mean TFA, not Wikipedia. TFA seems significantly more sketchy than Wikipedia.
[23:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:[citation needed] - 06 Deep Sea Robots Will Monitor the Oceans for Pollution - 438 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:36] <exec> 08└─It seems poorly communicated but the main difference may be that these robots are untethered. The researchers will be focusing on developing depth-safe sensors, as well as structures within the glider that can withstand the increased pressure and a propulsion system. With those things in place, the...
[23:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:[citation needed] - 06 Deep Sea Robots Will Monitor the Oceans for Pollution - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:38] <exec> 08└─Ah, I could see being a pedantic asshole and arguing that a robot with a tether that leaves the water doesn't technically qualify as an "underwater" robot, but rather a semi-aquatic one. You're probably right.
[23:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Weatherman.. - 06Why Aren't Supercomputers Getting Faster Like They Used To? - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:48] <exec> 08└─Phoenix has a pretty accurate weather forecast.
[23:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03mmcmonster [401] (Score:2) 02Re:Weatherman.. - 06Why Aren't Supercomputers Getting Faster Like They Used To? - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:50] <exec> 08└─Is it still called weather when it's constant day-to-day all year long?
[23:13:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:The other good way to use computing power - 06Why Aren't Supercomputers Getting Faster Like They Used To? - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:53] <exec> 08└─It meant: "Audience, you need to both believe that the scientists at Jurassic Park are really really smart and that the dinos are going to get out of control and eat people anyway."
[23:14:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Assinine - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:28] <exec> 08└─Ashley Madison is the world's leading married dating service for discreet encounters
[23:14:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Assinine - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:33] <exec> 08└─His career looked a lot worse back in 2012, when that article was written, and in early 2013 [wikipedia.org], when he took a visiting professor position at City University of New York for a $1 salary after the proposed $200,000 salary was slammed. Since joining KKR Global Institute in May 2013 and g...
[23:14:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Disagree) 02Re:Assinine - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:34] <exec> 08└─Most people know better than to seek legal counsel on their marriages from a newspaper article.
[23:14:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Assinine - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:36] <exec> 08└─Most people are not prosecuted for committing adultery or engaging in oral sex.
[23:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03hash14 [1102] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Assinine - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 607 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:37] <exec> 08└─This just goes to show how stupid moral laws are. Do you honestly expect politicians to go on the public record for fair treatment of activities like adultery? They're certainly not worthy of felonies and prison sentences - but they are taboo, and no one wants to be seen doing anything to condone it...
[23:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Assinine - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:39] <exec> 08└─One party (the hackers) committed a crime, the other (adulterers and website) didn't.
[23:14:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03tathra [3367] 02Re:Lying - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 348 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:44] <exec> 08└─But I can guarantee you, if I found out she'd been sleeping around, just knowing there's a site out there saying "Go on, do it - fuck over guys like zafiro17 at our super awesome website service" would be like a steady roar of outrage slowly consuming my brain. So I totally get where these hackers a...
[23:14:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Lying - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 865 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:46] <exec> 08└─I think people have it backwards. My guess is the hackers are the people who were caught cheating. Why would a betrayed hacker be upset about retained data which exposed their lover's infidelity? Wouldn't the data retention be the reason they caught their s/o cheating which would be beneficial in a...
[23:14:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:DBA fears - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 1154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:57] <exec> 08└─That is not a better solution because you'll end up with completely useless data still tied up with useful data. You have basically proposed a cascade delete except the data is not actually deleted but set to null or some sane default. You'll probably have odd side effects where validation mechanism...
[23:15:00] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03morgauxo [2082] 02Re:Time to start getting serious... - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 54 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:15:01] <exec> 08└─Sounds like somebody has something to hide doesn't he?
[23:15:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Time to start getting serious... - 06Adult 'Extracurricular Activity' Website AshleyMadison.com Hacked - 645 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:15:05] <exec> 08└─Mod parent up. Seriously, a woman who is in a stable relationship and knows her spouse cheats may well be fine with it - so long as she doesn't have to overhear it at the grocery store. The problem here is one of marriages of convince being ripped apart. If that's a marriage that's produced children...
[23:16:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Confirmed - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:16:33] <exec> 08└─I'm sorry if bringing that up was inconvenient.
[23:16:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:Confirmed - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:16:35] <exec> 08└─I don't consider it inconvenient, just off-topic, misdirection from the issue, speculative on its face, and excessively redundant in general.
[23:16:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Confirmed - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:16:36] <exec> 08└─Ah. So you unless you see the mercury go up it's unrelated. Oookie, got it.
[23:16:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:Confirmed - 06Climate Change May Already be Costing Lives - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:16:39] <exec> 08└─What are you going on about? The article is about a study on global warming to determine whether a warmer climate might increase mortality. As the study I posted pointed out, all else being equal, colder temperatures = more deaths. You seemed to want to talk about weather. Weather != climate.
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