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[00:13:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03MrGuy [1007] 02Hardly a surprise, or a disincentive. - 06Shaming Spy Chiefs by Plastering Them All Over the World - 1242 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:13:23] <exec> 08└─We're talking about people who are dyed-in-the-wool believers. They see themselves as Jack Bauer - bend every rule, break the ones you can get away with. Fight by any means necessary (and assume every possible means IS necessary). Such people know they're not playing "fair" or "by the rules." They d...
[00:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''shunning [...] Could it work here?'' - 06Shaming Spy Chiefs by Plastering Them All Over the World - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:13:26] <exec> 08└─If "here" is the USA: Mormons; Scientology; Amish. You can't shame those who are incapable of feeling shame or remorse. Yup. There's the gotcha. That case is a "here" all unto itself. -- gewg_
[00:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02A perfect record - 06Shaming Spy Chiefs by Plastering Them All Over the World - 625 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:13:29] <exec> 08└─FBI & Homeland Security Now 0 For 41 In Predicting Imminent Terrorist Attacks On The US [techdirt.com] Before the weekend, [FAIR.org blogger] Adam Johnson [at Fairness and Accuracy In Reporting] put together an astounding list of how Homeland Security and the FBI are 0 for 40 in their last 40 predi...
[00:14:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03termigator [4271] (Score:1) 02Re:science - 06Pens Are Making a High-Tech Comeback - 2256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:14:42] <exec> 08└─The study focuses on laptops vs paper, but the real difference is the type of notes taken, which the article does touch upon. I think the key thing is what to note. I think many do verbatim style note taking, which the use of laptops emphasizing this method. When doing hand written notes, most canno...
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[01:13:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:How can I get my DNA sequenced? - 06Scientists Develop Free Online Genetic Research Tool - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:11] <exec> 08└─I think there is some program at UCLA that was looking for volunteers for genome sequencing. I'll reply if I can find a link.
[01:13:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:How can I get my DNA sequenced? - 06Scientists Develop Free Online Genetic Research Tool - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:12] <exec> 08└─Here is a different one that I've heard of by I think there is a wait list: http://www.personalgenomes.org [personalgenomes.org]
[01:14:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Relations - 06Pens Are Making a High-Tech Comeback - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:14:52] <exec> 08└─Absolutely! And oh, I can see your Schwartz is bigger than mine!
[01:17:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmn32480 [443] (Score:2) 02Re:News from the developed world - 06AT&T Will Give Poor People 1.5 Mbps DSL for $10 if US Allows DirecTV Merger - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:17:36] <exec> 08└─Or suck the dicks of the lobbyists.
[01:18:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02Re:for wh - 06What Distro Do Soylentils Use? - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:18:09] <exec> 08└─I distinctly remember several months ago opening up a document with changes which would not transfer between programs. I just tested it though and you are right. Tracked changes were preserved. Now I'm a bit confused.
[01:18:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02Re:for wh - 06What Distro Do Soylentils Use? - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:18:11] <exec> 08└─Well, they kind of work. I've been running it Wine, and sometime sits fine, and then there is a doc that just wont open or Office just crashes after a few minutes.
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[02:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:Source Material? - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 543 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:24] <exec> 08└─Good point. One thing we can do is pick another celestial body that is the same mean distance from the Sun, has no atmosphere, and has an albedo of 0.136 (about the same as coal) so probably even darker then the Earth which has ice caps. Hmm seems the median temperature at the equator is 220 K and a...
[02:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02This isn't only Big Oil, this is Big Corporate - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 1361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:31] <exec> 08└─This is more evidence of the criminal cheating, lying, stupidity, psychopathology, and anti-social behavior and actions that big, powerful companies do, no matter what industry they're in. Big Tobacco denied that nicotine was addictive, Big Oil denies that there is Climate Change or that it's a prob...
[02:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Re:Not Another [FillInTheBlank]gate - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:37] <exec> 08└─Can we come up with another way to put a negative spin on an event without trivializing Watergate?
[02:13:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03edIII [791] 02At least we have that going for us.... - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 2111 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:13:39] <exec> 08└─Transparency I just need to take a second to be very grateful that the same privacy eroding technology and policies that ruin my freedom and life, are apparently equally applying to those in power. It seems like no system is safe, and no collection of dark and scandalous information can remain hidde...
[02:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:What fossil fuel companies knew - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:42] <exec> 08└─Except that it wont. They have the money to move to a safe location when the coastal areas flood. They have the money to never go hungry when the crops fail because of drought, flooding or swarms of locusts. They have the money to pay for bodyguards to keep the sick people out when the plagues start...
[02:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:What fossil fuel companies knew - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:44] <exec> 08└─Except that, in an apocalyptic scenario as you described, their electronic money has no value.
[02:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What fossil fuel companies knew - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:45] <exec> 08└─Wow! Immortan Joe is a Soylentil!! Or just someone that a Soylentil knows. Or knows of. Yeah. Whatever.
[02:13:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03MrGuy [1007] 02Love the Doublespeak - 06Hacking Team Complains That its Leaked Zero-Days Will be Misused - 313 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:13:55] <exec> 08└─It is now apparent that a major threat exists because of the posting by cyber criminals of HackingTeam proprietary software on the Internet the night of July 6. HackingTeam's investigation has determined that sufficient code was released to permit anyone to deploy the software against any target of...
[02:14:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Love the Doublespeak - 06Hacking Team Complains That its Leaked Zero-Days Will be Misused - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:14:00] <exec> 08└─The real threat was born when Windows was rolled out.
[02:14:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03zocalo [302] 02They're probably right - 06Hacking Team Complains That its Leaked Zero-Days Will be Misused - 655 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:14:02] <exec> 08└─They're probably right, these exploits and tools are almost certainly going to be used successfully by criminals, hostile/repressive governments and (gasp!) terrorists. Some of those exploits are almost certainly going to be used successfully against the very organizations and entities many of Hacki...
[02:14:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] 02Terrorists, extortionists and others - 06Hacking Team Complains That its Leaked Zero-Days Will be Misused - 246 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:14:10] <exec> 08└─>Terrorists, extortionists and others can deploy this technology at will if they have the technical ability to do so. Yes, yes, we read your list of customers already. But what's your opinion now that everyone else can deploy this technology too?
[02:14:15] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03tibman [134] 02Actually, no. - 06Hacking Team Complains That its Leaked Zero-Days Will be Misused - 175 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:14:15] <exec> 08└─Now those zero-days will be patched and the world will be more secure. Could have happened sooner if the holes weren't being exploited. But there isn't as much profit in that.
[02:14:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03GoonDu [2623] (Score:2) 02Re:Actually, no. - 06Hacking Team Complains That its Leaked Zero-Days Will be Misused - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:14:17] <exec> 08└─Problem is, how many more of these kinds are there? And how deep does the rabbit hole goes? I mean, they could be just the tip of iceberg. I'm sure Russia or even other state agencies have more sophisticated tools than these. If any, it serves as another good public awareness article however, it's n...
[02:14:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:My expectation was way off - 06 Tinkering School is Where Kids Go to Build Marvelous Things - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:14:32] <exec> 08└─Lucky kid!!! I see what the kids have to tolerate today... it would drive me nuts. Hell, just trying to pull permits for everything these days drives me nuts. Where do all these people think the people who build or maintain things in the future will come from? Mexico? China?
[02:14:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:I do this already with mine - 06 Tinkering School is Where Kids Go to Build Marvelous Things - 922 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:14:34] <exec> 08└─Boy, those were the days! A discarded washing machine, TV, or "Hi-Fi" would provide me weeks of entertainment tearing it all down, then I would carefully arrange the parts into something that should have done something, albeit 99.9% of the time, the lesson was why it did not work. The ratio got muc...
[02:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:cooties! - 06 Tinkering School is Where Kids Go to Build Marvelous Things - 938 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:14:39] <exec> 08└─I believe this might be one of the few instances where segregating by gender might be beneficial. (Amazonian humour aside.) It is human nature to quickly organise ourselves into teams when given a task. This camp is about building things - and having the time and mental space to do so. Thus you want...
[02:14:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I have seen this with my own eyes. - 06 Tinkering School is Where Kids Go to Build Marvelous Things - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:14:40] <exec> 08└─Mom is what newfoundlanders denote as "quitty-quott". Doilies, antique oil paintings, she feels that its a criminal offense for woman to wear pants. But she is a member of the Beta Sigma Phi sorority. At their meetings, all the ladies smoke cigarettes, drink hard liquor, use foul language and tell d...
[02:14:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Linux v Windows - 06Backups and Upgrades and VMs, Oh My! - 759 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:14:57] <exec> 08└─As for systemd, I'm a firm believer in the Unix philosophy of making small tools that do one thing, but do it very well. You could very well say that I *think* in pipelines! From my perspective, systemd is trying to take over the entire userland from the bottom up. You want to be an init system? Fin...
[02:16:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:DTQP - 06New York Stock Exchange Shut Down Temporarily Due to "Internal Technical Issue" - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:16:21] <exec> 08└─Bradley Manning
[02:16:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:DTQP - 06New York Stock Exchange Shut Down Temporarily Due to "Internal Technical Issue" - 2574 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:16:24] <exec> 08└─That's a good question. Who's making the robots and who's profiting from the robots? I'm no Luddite and wouldn't call for a Butlerian jihad (well, obvious exception for Skynet and the AIs of Simmons' Hyperion [and even those were quite divided on the issue of what to do with humanity]), but it's get...
[02:23:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Sounds like you don't want a phone. - 06Major Job Cuts Expected at Microsoft - 5 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:23:02] <exec> 08└─Narp?
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[03:13:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Re:That is really tiny! - 06IBM and Partners Develop 7nm Process Chips - 1088 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:13:08] <exec> 08└─It's rather more like what happened with automobiles. Engines get more efficient, but those gains aren't all funneled into better fuel economy. If you instead are willing to keep fuel economy the same, you can have a more powerful engine, or a bigger car, or more safety features. CPUs get more power...
[03:13:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:That is really tiny! - 06IBM and Partners Develop 7nm Process Chips - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:13:09] <exec> 08└─Idk man. You get multithreading performance from these process shrinks, especially in Xeon territory where core counts simply rise. Single threaded, a struggle to get more than 5-10%.
[03:13:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02IBM selling off everything they make - 06IBM and Partners Develop 7nm Process Chips - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:13:10] <exec> 08└─I wonder how this fits into the "strategy" of IBM's C-levels to sell off everything IBM makes to boost short-term profit. As in, I wonder if IBM just becomes a patent troll on this technology.
[03:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Quantum? - 06UK to Develop "Quantum" 'Universal' Satellite - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:13:21] <exec> 08└─So it's just a name for an approved satellite design? Nothing to do with Quantum mechanics or computing?
[03:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03deadstick [5110] (Score:1) 02Re:Source Material? - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:13:38] <exec> 08└─But...but...Senator Inhofe has a snowball. How can this be?
[03:13:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:What fossil fuel companies knew - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:13:59] <exec> 08└─Except that, in an apocalyptic scenario as you described, their electronic money has no value.
[03:14:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Terrorists, extortionists and others - 06Hacking Team Complains That its Leaked Zero-Days Will be Misused - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:14:29] <exec> 08└─Look at it this way. If I had government sponsorships, a team of bat-shit-crazy-hookers-&-blow lawyers, and had just lost my business product/model, well, suing the shit out of everybody would make a lot of sense.
[03:14:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Terrorists, extortionists and others - 06Hacking Team Complains That its Leaked Zero-Days Will be Misused - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:14:31] <exec> 08└─Chuck a free trade agreement in there and you're golden.
[03:14:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Re:cooties! - 06 Tinkering School is Where Kids Go to Build Marvelous Things - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:14:56] <exec> 08└─If we are able to give girls a chance to discover they are competent then they'll have the confidence and experience to take an active role in the future.
[03:14:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02Re:cooties! - 06 Tinkering School is Where Kids Go to Build Marvelous Things - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:14:59] <exec> 08└─Surely you've seen many bossy little girls
[03:15:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:2) 02Re:No applications - 06Backups and Upgrades and VMs, Oh My! - 815 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:15:11] <exec> 08└─I intend to save those applications for use on other Windows OS's -- that's part of the reason for my submitting this 'Ask Soylent' -- for starters, I want to go from XP/SP3 to 7 Pro. At first I was going to point out that Thunderbird, Hexchat, and VLC all have Linux versions, and then I reread you...
[03:15:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:2) 02Re:Linux v Windows - 06Backups and Upgrades and VMs, Oh My! - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:15:15] <exec> 08└─Transitioning to Linux is never change for the sake of change!
[03:15:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:2) 02Re:Linux v Windows - 06Backups and Upgrades and VMs, Oh My! - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:15:18] <exec> 08└─The "Rellocated Sector count" means that the SMART drive is running out of space in the table that it uses to relocate data from bad sectors, soon it will start to lose data. And the "Spin Retry" indicates that the main motor is failing. The drive will be a paper weight in short order.
[03:15:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:long-term plan - 06Backups and Upgrades and VMs, Oh My! - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:15:49] <exec> 08└─I've been power cycling my WD blacks for 5 years now and never had any failure. Been doing it to equipment that is from 2004, Hitachi drives....still no problems. Takeaway: shitty drives gonna be shitty. good drives will be fine.
[03:15:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03MrGuy [1007] 02Partisanship over pragmatism. - 06Backups and Upgrades and VMs, Oh My! - 213 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:15:50] <exec> 08└─I have considerable experience in using Unix userland commands (ls, find, gawk, sed, etc.) but negligible experience in installing Linux/BSD/etc. (snip) Based on what I've read, I'd like to stay away from systemd.
[03:16:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:How can I get my DNA sequenced? - 06Scientists Develop Free Online Genetic Research Tool - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:16:07] <exec> 08└─People with Bipolar-Type Schizoaffective Disorder should not be able to do what I do.
[03:16:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03redneckmother [3597] (Score:1) 02Re:Nice thought but ... - 06Shaming Spy Chiefs by Plastering Them All Over the World - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:16:24] <exec> 08└─You can't shame those who are incapable of feeling shame or remorse.
[03:17:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03pogostix [1696] (Score:2) 02Re:Relations - 06Pens Are Making a High-Tech Comeback - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:17:53] <exec> 08└─Incorrect. Reduce to simplest terms.
[03:19:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:$10 no nigga, make it free - 06AT&T Will Give Poor People 1.5 Mbps DSL for $10 if US Allows DirecTV Merger - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:19:53] <exec> 08└─Its not like they'll actually follow through with it anyway. Telcos have a reputation of not carrying through with their promises; see: all involved with the government broadband loans 10+ years ago, Comcast's same claim previously, etc.
[03:21:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03linuxrocks123 [2557] (Score:2) 02Re:for wh - 06What Distro Do Soylentils Use? - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:21:09] <exec> 08└─Hmm. I've been running it in an old Crossover Office install from Flock the Vote. If you don't want to buy Crossover, PlayOnLinux has similar customization scripts that might help with the stability.
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[04:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Grammar cop here/ - 06IBM and Partners Develop 7nm Process Chips - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:13:18] <exec> 08└─Is Ars a single entity, or a multiple group? "Ars Technica have...."??
[04:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Whole fleet of these? - 06UK to Develop "Quantum" 'Universal' Satellite - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:27] <exec> 08└─You should look up phased-array antennas. They are software defined. The waveform is changed using well-timed staggered waves. The latest wifi standards allow for the same in compatible equipment.
[04:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Quantum? - 06UK to Develop "Quantum" 'Universal' Satellite - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:31] <exec> 08└─Technically everything is quantum in the same way technically all food is organic.
[04:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not Another [FillInTheBlank]gate - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:14:02] <exec> 08└─There's a conspiracy to trivialize the Watergate scandal via using "-gate" to water it down. Let's call the scandal, "Watergate".
[04:14:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not Another [FillInTheBlank]gate - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:14:04] <exec> 08└─Can we come up with another way to put a negative spin on an event without trivializing Watergate?
[04:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Typical - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:14:14] <exec> 08└─All the eco-tards driven to frenzy by "aristachus" the moron. No need for the melodrama when the facts speak for themselves. Oh, yeah, they don't.
[04:15:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03seeprime [5580] 02Re:Never ever write to a bad disk - 06Backups and Upgrades and VMs, Oh My! - 412 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:15:44] <exec> 08└─A conservative suggestion based on 23 years of owning a computer shop: You might want to mount a USB flash or hard drive first and copy your readable files, before imaging the failing hard drive, as it takes little time to do this, after booting to Linux. Then image to a portable hard drive. If you...
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[05:13:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Fuck it in the Front Orifice! - 06Microsoft Makes "Significant Financial Donation" to OpenBSD Foundation - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:13:10] <exec> 08└─Right then, scum have taken over SSH. To hell with it, the time has come for a replacement. Somebody write a secure implementation of Back Orifice, call it Front Orifice, and let's all fuck our servers right in the pussy!
[05:13:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Nothing on top of Windows can be secured - 06Microsoft Makes "Significant Financial Donation" to OpenBSD Foundation - 528 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:13:11] <exec> 08└─Interesting quote from Techrights. And probably pretty given the backdoors that Microsoft is suspected of installed in everything including their crypto stack for the NSA. As long as the ssh or other parts OpenBSD might provide are secure, i guess OpenBSD doesn't care to much how badly Microsoft mes...
[05:13:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Alarmist bullshit - 06Microsoft Makes "Significant Financial Donation" to OpenBSD Foundation - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:13:13] <exec> 08└─Who cares what microsofts intentions are, the money is in the hands of the OpenBSD guys now, and they'll continue doing whatever the fuck they want like they always have.
[05:13:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Alarmist bullshit - 06Microsoft Makes "Significant Financial Donation" to OpenBSD Foundation - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:15] <exec> 08└─Right, because no one or no organization has ever been bribed into doing something wrong. Never in public; not even in secret.
[05:13:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score:2) 02Re:Alarmist bullshit - 06Microsoft Makes "Significant Financial Donation" to OpenBSD Foundation - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:16] <exec> 08└─Money is money, no matter where it comes from. It's very rarely free though...
[05:13:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Alarmist bullshit - 06Microsoft Makes "Significant Financial Donation" to OpenBSD Foundation - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:18] <exec> 08└─we're wearing the thick foil again today aren't we
[05:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Alarmist bullshit - 06Microsoft Makes "Significant Financial Donation" to OpenBSD Foundation - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:20] <exec> 08└─So you're saying you have no confidence in the Foundation.
[05:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Alarmist bullshit - 06Microsoft Makes "Significant Financial Donation" to OpenBSD Foundation - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:21] <exec> 08└─Right, as if any money from corporate donors ever came without strings attached.
[05:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Alarmist bullshit - 06Microsoft Makes "Significant Financial Donation" to OpenBSD Foundation - 697 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:23] <exec> 08└─Oh, I don't know if I would take it that lightly. They are paying for a developer's hours (Microsoft has said as much). Which means that some of the best brains in the industry will be spending his time painting lipstick on a pig rather than improving OpenSSH for everyone. Its a brain drain. Even if...
[05:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:That is really tiny! - 06IBM and Partners Develop 7nm Process Chips - 582 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:30] <exec> 08└─Cores rock! I have been messing around with Parallax "Propeller" chips ( Chip Gracey's eight core microcontroller ) and find it incredible how many three-ring computational circuses I can manage with a single Arduino. Things like VGA controller, stepper motor control, and DMX ( theatrical lighting b...
[05:13:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Grammar cop here/ - 06IBM and Partners Develop 7nm Process Chips - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:33] <exec> 08└─Here "Ars Technica" is a proper noun, therefore a singular case.
[05:13:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Quantum? - 06UK to Develop "Quantum" 'Universal' Satellite - 1008 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:45] <exec> 08└─Quantum is just a word to describe a certain way for us to estimate what may happen under a certain set of conditions. It's how we communicate a model describing approximately how the universe manifests itself to us under various conditions. The model may not be accurate under all conditions. It may...
[05:14:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:This isn't only Big Oil, this is Big Corporate - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:14:11] <exec> 08└─It's not just Big Oil, it's Big Corrupt US Govt: http://geke.us (plus the other 17 venn diagrams)
[05:14:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:What fossil fuel companies knew - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:14:28] <exec> 08└─And I'd also like to point out that in an apocalyptic scenario, that shiny yellow metal that a lot of people think will protect their wealth is also pretty useless.
[05:14:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Source / torrent? Any debian vulnerabilities? - 06Hacking Team Complains That its Leaked Zero-Days Will be Misused - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:14:55] <exec> 08└─"Please turn JavaScript on and reload the page." To view a .txt file?!?!? Modern internet, please die.
[05:16:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Common Joe [33] (Score:2) 02Re:Partisanship over pragmatism. - 06Backups and Upgrades and VMs, Oh My! - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:16:23] <exec> 08└─Many of the most popular, best supported, and most user friendly distros use SystemD. Sorry, but it's true. Ruling out Ububtu as an option because it uses SystemD, or Mint because it's likely to move to SystemD in the future, is not necessarily doing yourself any favors.
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[06:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Whole fleet of these? - 06UK to Develop "Quantum" 'Universal' Satellite - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:47] <exec> 08└─You should look up phased-array antennas. They are software defined. The waveform is changed using well-timed staggered waves. The latest wifi standards allow for the same in compatible equipment.
[06:14:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Forging a letter from the NAACP - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:14:17] <exec> 08└─Now if you were looking to create Hell on Earth...
[06:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Sierra club report is interesting - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 385 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:14:37] <exec> 08└─Although this Sierra club report is interesting, it comes with a $89 trillion US price tag. Seems a bit rich for my blood. Especially since the first $200 billion US ended up with 18 years of temperature 'pause' and 70+ reasons why the model's overprediction of the temperatures measured by reality a...
[06:15:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Source / torrent? Any debian vulnerabilities? - 06Hacking Team Complains That its Leaked Zero-Days Will be Misused - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:15:05] <exec> 08└─windoze is unsafe at any speed
[06:18:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Redundant) 02Re:science for idiots - 06Pens Are Making a High-Tech Comeback - 779 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:18:25] <exec> 08└─My rule: Never research and provide citations when people demand them. They will refuse to Google, insisting you do it for them. [citation needed] They will post as AC so that they never have to come back and read your citations, [citation needed] They will never lean anything from a citation that t...
[06:22:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Debian - 06What Distro Do Soylentils Use? - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:22:13] <exec> 08└─I use Debian, because I'm a Debian Developer. And I'm glad it's around.
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[07:13:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02depends how old you are - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:10] <exec> 08└─Under or over 40?
[07:13:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:depends how old you are - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 731 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:13:12] <exec> 08└─Quite. By 2050 I'll be retired, so this is fine by me. The less riff-raff I have to keep shooing off my retirement home in the countryside's lawn the better. :) I can get why city life might be appealing to someone young enough to be interested in going out every night clubbing or whatever, but th...
[07:13:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:depends how old you are - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:13:13] <exec> 08└─Some people grow up in the big city, they really don't have a choice in the matter. Other people land their dream-job they can't refuse in the big-city. But the kind of people who choose to live in the big city for the sake of living in the big city are the kind of people who can't stand to listen t...
[07:13:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02By 2050 there won't even be a Rural. - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:16] <exec> 08└─By 2050 every farm everywhere will be owned by a corporation.
[07:13:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:By 2050 there won't even be a Rural. - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:13:18] <exec> 08└─even the opium farmers? It's more efficient so yes to corps
[07:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:By 2050 there won't even be a Rural. - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:13:20] <exec> 08└─yes, because by then, they will be not just at an equal footing with governments, but effectively will no longer be able to be controlled or managed by governments in any real sense. They will be able to ship things that governments won't be permitted to inspect, either as the items leave a country...
[07:13:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 0275% Urban, 25% Prison - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:22] <exec> 08└─Don't like city life? You goin straight to jail.
[07:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:75% Urban, 25% Prison - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:13:23] <exec> 08└─As long as they round up the illegals and the retarded and put them with the criminals, and make them all pedal 8 hours a day in bike-farms to generate municipal electricity in exchange for 3 hots and a cot, I'm all for it.
[07:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:75% Urban, 25% Prison - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:13:25] <exec> 08└─Escape from New York!
[07:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03GoonDu [2623] (Score:2) 02It depends - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 566 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:26] <exec> 08└─Planning is definitely a factor and it also depends on how 'popular' an area. If an area is a space where people gather to fulfill their daily needs (grocery, citizens' obligation, work, transport, etc), then you will have a good utility of space. A park is not exactly a place where people can do th...
[07:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:It depends - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 679 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:13:28] <exec> 08└─Large warehouse industrial space must also be accounted for, so that working in the tech industry won't require a commute that defeats the purpose of urban living. The elephant in the room is that living spaces are now treated as investments rather than places to live. That means people and the reso...
[07:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Not in Clark County Washington - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 646 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:30] <exec> 08└─All of the new construction takes place where the busses dont run, and the locals wont vote to fund public transit because they drive cars. Oregon wants light rail to run across the Columbia into Vancouver. This led Washington to cut funding for the Columbia River Crossing, which we desperately need...
[07:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Are all those assertions really true? - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 642 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:31] <exec> 08└─Maybe they represent the fawning love of the city by city dwellers. The rats, sewer, and general pollution in cities is enormous. It spreads out down stream, even out to sea. Cities are really good at exporting it out of sight out of mind. It seems any actual savings are due to the reduced standards...
[07:13:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Honestly, no issues with this - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 796 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:33] <exec> 08└─I grew up in New York City, and I've lived in or at least spent significant time in close to a dozen major cities around the world (NYC, Boston, Chicago, Houston, Portland (OR), Shanghai, Panama City, Anchorage, and Shanghai just off the top of my list). Major cities allow for grouping of things and...
[07:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03GoonDu [2623] (Score:2) 02NOPE - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:35] <exec> 08└─I finally read the article and all I could say, nope. http://media.treehugger.com [treehugger.com] I would stay in the studio 24/7 and come out at off-peak hours to have my meals. There is no way I'm sharing my space with 1...
[07:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02ORLY? - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:37] <exec> 08└─Central Park is designed such that tens of thousands of people can be in it at once, but you never see more than a score.
[07:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02forget urban - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:38] <exec> 08└─go arco [molleindustria.org]
[07:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02humans and world, naa - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 860 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:40] <exec> 08└─People has decided to depart from being a terrestrial living long time ago, humans still needs nature to live, but in every aspect of his life he tries to be a different thing than an animal. Think about it, living in the nature can be so beautiful... for one afternoon-(few days) in the middle of yo...
[07:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Fuck it in the Front Orifice! - 06Microsoft Makes "Significant Financial Donation" to OpenBSD Foundation - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:13:41] <exec> 08└─Hey, give Microsoft a break -- they're gotta lay off 18,000 employees [soylentnews.org] to afford that donation!
[07:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03altanar [5612] (Score:1) 02Money - 06Microsoft Makes "Significant Financial Donation" to OpenBSD Foundation - 582 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:46] <exec> 08└─Windows is also known for billions of users and millions of people searching every nook and cranny for vulnerabilities. Really paranoid about security? Step up and fund the developers of OSS you use. When there are not enough people willing to inspect and work on code because they don't have the fin...
[07:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:3, Interesting) 02OpenBSD's code quality may be good but ... - 06Microsoft Makes "Significant Financial Donation" to OpenBSD Foundation - 1235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:48] <exec> 08└─My biggest problem with OpenBSD, and why I won't use it in an actual server environment is it lacks mandatory access controls like AppArmor or SELinux; OpenBSD specifically rejects it saying its no substitute. The thing is, any codebase of a large size is going to have holes, and OpenBSD's security...
[07:15:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03SlimmPickens [1056] (Score:2) 02Re:Love the Doublespeak - 06Hacking Team Complains That its Leaked Zero-Days Will be Misused - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:15:16] <exec> 08└─I don't think they would erode their customer base like that.
[07:15:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:They're probably right - 06Hacking Team Complains That its Leaked Zero-Days Will be Misused - 917 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:15:22] <exec> 08└─True enough; that pattern occurs all the time when people post zero days to mailing lists like Full Disclosure, Dark Web sites, and other sources of toys for the script kiddies, and this isn't all that different - just on a much larger scale and with a nice front end. The difference is that when thi...
[07:15:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:Wish our TLAs were on our side - 06Hacking Team Complains That its Leaked Zero-Days Will be Misused - 566 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:15:47] <exec> 08└─It's a simple choice for those setting the agenda for the TLAs when it comes to software vulnerabilities and encryption. They can work to secure their nation, plus its people, businesses, economy and industry from harm by others, or they can work to screw over others but in return leave their own vu...
[07:16:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:There are plenty of non-systemd Linux distribut - 06Backups and Upgrades and VMs, Oh My! - 1003 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:16:34] <exec> 08└─It doesn't have to be backdoored if the design itself is completely idiotic. Everything in systemd is built around connecting to journald, and requiring code level callbacks to sd_notify ti allow the thing to work as adversed. I'm not a big fan of journald, but it would chaft me at all if the damn t...
[07:16:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:ddrescue to the... rescue - 06Backups and Upgrades and VMs, Oh My! - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:16:37] <exec> 08└─Wow, that's an awesome tool. Thanks, it just went into my recovery toolbox. (fortunately, its been a few years since I had to salvage a dead HDD, I usually get enough warning to backup and replace before I get to that point).
[07:17:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Partisanship over pragmatism. - 06Backups and Upgrades and VMs, Oh My! - 402 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:17:02] <exec> 08└─systemd is fine, and perhaps appropriate for desktops where responsiveness and tight integration are good things. In such an environment, while it chafts me, I have had no negative experiences. In a server based environment trying to debug crud, it gets in the way, is amazingly unhelpful in determin...
[07:19:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03JBanister [5195] (Score:1) 02Re:FTL wave - 06Surfing a Wake of Light: Researchers Observe and Control Light Wakes for the First Time - 624 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:19:40] <exec> 08└─The article said While nothing travels faster than the speed of light in a vacuum, light isn't always in a vacuum. It is possible for something to move faster than the phase velocity of light in a medium or material and generate a wake. The most famous example of this is Cherenkov radiation, wakes...
[07:21:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sir Finkus [192] (Score:2) 02Re:So.. An advertisement? - 06AT&T Will Give Poor People 1.5 Mbps DSL for $10 if US Allows DirecTV Merger - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:21:48] <exec> 08└─HAHAHA so even better, another way for taxpayers to subsidize the ISP's expenses. Fucking great.
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[08:13:12] <exec> 08└─I disagree. Indeed, in the big city where people are more anonymous, it's actually easier to just listen to your thoughts. Nobody will complain that you didn't greet him because you didn't notice him because you were in your thoughts, because the people passing by don't know you anyway. Nobody will...
[08:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:75% Urban, 25% Prison - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:19] <exec> 08└─As long as they round up the illegals and the retarded and put them with the criminals, and make them all pedal 8 hours a day in bike-farms to generate municipal electricity in exchange for 3 hots and a cot, I'm all for it.
[08:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not in Clark County Washington - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:25] <exec> 08└─"You know what happens whenever light rail goes in?"
[08:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck it in the Front Orifice! - 06Microsoft Makes "Significant Financial Donation" to OpenBSD Foundation - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:39] <exec> 08└─No thanks, my server's a dude.
[08:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Alarmist bullshit - 06Microsoft Makes "Significant Financial Donation" to OpenBSD Foundation - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:47] <exec> 08└─You can't have much confidence in anything these days.
[08:13:49] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02Re:Alarmist bullshit - 06Microsoft Makes "Significant Financial Donation" to OpenBSD Foundation - 697 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:50] <exec> 08└─Oh, I don't know if I would take it that lightly. They are paying for a developer's hours (Microsoft has said as much). Which means that some of the best brains in the industry will be spending his time painting lipstick on a pig rather than improving OpenSSH for everyone. Its a brain drain. Even if...
[08:14:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Quantum? - 06UK to Develop "Quantum" 'Universal' Satellite - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:21] <exec> 08└─nitpick: Newtonian mechanics will never work better than quantum mechanics for any system, no matter how macroscopic. It's perfectly true that it's easier to work with, and for a wide range of systems we can't actually distinguish non-Newtonian effects, but that simply means that "Newtonian mechanic...
[08:14:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not Another [FillInTheBlank]gate - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:56] <exec> 08└─My favourite is gatergate - a scandal involving so called gaters and whatever they are campaigning against.
[08:15:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Disagree) 02Liars vs liars - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:15:09] <exec> 08└─So, on one side we have politicians. Known to lie whenever their lips move. On the other side we have big business, known to lie whenever there is money involved. This doesn't appear to bring us closer to the truth than before.
[08:16:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:There are plenty of non-systemd Linux distribut - 06Backups and Upgrades and VMs, Oh My! - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:16:43] <exec> 08└─An important point in that regard is that the Gentoo Handbook is mostly excellent, and installing it will give you all the opportunity you need to learn about linux in the process. The Gentoo forums are also very helpful if you run into any problems. The BSD's also have pretty good documentation. An...
[08:22:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondrake [2658] (Score:2) 02Re:for wh - 06What Distro Do Soylentils Use? - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:32] <exec> 08└─I think what does not work is highlight a few words, and attach a comment to the highlighted section. Comments can only be inserted at a position with no highlighting. Not 100% sure about this though, and I think this works in the latest betas for 5.0.
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[09:13:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02No doubt, but... - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 1242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:13:12] <exec> 08└─There's no doubt at all that the bailouts were primarily intended to aid the European banking system, rather than Greece. Really, I don't know of anyone claiming otherwise. However, this is completely separate from his austerity point. Yes, austerity has hurt a lot of individuals. However, as a coun...
[09:13:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:No doubt, but... - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 3699 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:13:13] <exec> 08└─The whole concept of fractional reserved banking seems to have an illusion of "helping" others afford things they otherwise could not, but in practice tends only to enslave the borrower... as now the repayment of a loan plus usury now requires additional "dollars" that are brought into play only by...
[09:13:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02I misread that for a second - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:13:15] <exec> 08└─2. That austerity has caused, as predicted, a human centipede in Greece
[09:13:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I misread that for a second - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:13:17] <exec> 08└─The human centipede was German, not Greek. Had it been Greek, it would have been all boys, joined penis-to-mouth.
[09:13:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02You're cheering on Communists. - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 3223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:13:18] <exec> 08└─You know that, right? Syriza is literally "the radical left". Tsipras joined the communist party at the age of 16. With that out of the way, the humanitarian crisis was caused by Greek administrations failing to actually reform the country, even though Europe bought them 5 years time to do it. Greec...
[09:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02That is the word - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:13:20] <exec> 08└─From the article: Alas Germany’s leaders, so thin-skinned about criticism of their hypocrisy, so upset to be reminded of that hypocrisy, and encumbered by a native language that doesn’t even have a word for their realpolitik policies.
[09:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03khedoros [2921] (Score:2) 02Definitions - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:13:47] <exec> 08└─but the city becomes your living room
[09:14:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score:2) 02Re:OpenBSD's code quality may be good but ... - 06Microsoft Makes "Significant Financial Donation" to OpenBSD Foundation - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:14:10] <exec> 08└─Apache IS part of the base installation of OpenBSD, and runs in a jail (sandbox). So does Bind. Other server apps can easily do so, if you want them to.
[09:14:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score:2) 02Re:Quantum? - 06UK to Develop "Quantum" 'Universal' Satellite - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:14:41] <exec> 08└─nitpick: You might define "better" as "more accurate". Someone else might define "better" as "easier to work with". If you tried to apply quantum mechanics when designing a house, you would rightly be called an idiot. In this case Newtonian mechanics is "better". Unless you are designing a very spec...
[09:14:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Source Material? - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:15:00] <exec> 08└─Interesting idea, so how would you calculate that?
[09:15:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03istartedi [123] (Score:2) 02Re:Not Another [FillInTheBlank]gate - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:15:20] <exec> 08└─Let's not turn this into gategate.
[09:19:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03istartedi [123] (Score:2) 02Re:Relations - 06Pens Are Making a High-Tech Comeback - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:19:40] <exec> 08└─I am your wife's cousin's husband's father’s brother’s nephew’s cousin’s former roommate. Who knew? I cannot help but picture this as the caption to a New Yorker cartoon. Perhaps it's a conversation between two dogs in an upscale apartment. They're having tea.
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[10:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03caffeine [249] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:No doubt, but... - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:13:37] <exec> 08└─It is my understanding that most economies operate on endogenous money supply rather than a fractional reserve system. To me the big question is, if money can be created at zero cost as needed by the economy, why does it come with interest attached? Why don't we just create what we need to do what i...
[10:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03dusty monkey [5492] (Score:2) 02Re:You're cheering on Communists. - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:13:41] <exec> 08└─The Greece import/export deficit is 2:1. Sustaining this requires the system as a whole to offset the extra 1 every year, by the sum of both public and private debts as well as foreign investments. The governments credit line stinks, so the only way to really get this kind of offset is to make it at...
[10:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02There have been challenges here... - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 851 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:13:43] <exec> 08└─There have been challenges here to show a single time that "austerity" [alternet.org] has ever worked to improve things for a country's economy. No one yet has accepted the challenge. Big hint: Eating the seed corn is a guaranteed loser. The way you get an economy revved up is with the Multiplier Ef...
[10:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03geb [529] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Cannot understand the claim austerity doesn't work - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 585 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:13:46] <exec> 08└─I consider myself quite strongly left wing. I'd normally argue in favour of protecting the vulnerable, of spending on welfare, protection pensions, and so on, but if you're going to do all of those things there has to be a functional economy to pay for it. If there isn't money coming in, you can't s...
[10:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cannot understand the claim austerity doesn't w - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:13:47] <exec> 08└─And when the Ministry of Truth says two plus two equals six, the answer is six. According to the Ministry of Plenty, poverty is prosperity, didn't you know?
[10:13:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Demena [5637] (Score:1) 02Re:Cannot understand the claim austerity doesn't w - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 1279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:13:49] <exec> 08└─What you are missing here is that they tried austerity and it failed them. Maybe it failed them partly because of the lack of ability to collect taxes but primarily it was that austerity caused the economy to collapse even further. When that happened there was even less taxes to collect. Unemploymen...
[10:13:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02people say ''austerity doesn't work'' - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:13:50] <exec> 08└─Your personal finances and the finances of a country/continent are quite different. The way you get an economy back on its feet is to put everyone to work. You really need to do some study on The New Deal. It's the way USA dealt with the failed economics of the Republican administrations from the 19...
[10:14:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:ORLY? - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 481 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:14:16] <exec> 08└─I can only assume that the person who wrote that has never been to NYC in the summer. I've only spent a few weeks there and on one visit there were so many people sunbathing in central park that it looked like a beach after the tide had gone out stranding millions of jellyfish. Even in the spring or...
[10:14:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Data - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:14:20] <exec> 08└─Is there any data or model they are basing this on or is it just made up? I went to the ITDP site because I would love me some historical population density data (and not just dividing total population by square km/miles), but it looks void of any useful content.
[10:14:41] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03NCommander [2] 02OpenBSD's code quality may be good but ... - 06Microsoft Makes "Significant Financial Donation" to OpenBSD Foundation - 1235 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:14:41] <exec> 08└─My biggest problem with OpenBSD, and why I won't use it in an actual server environment is it lacks mandatory access controls like AppArmor or SELinux; OpenBSD specifically rejects it saying its no substitute. The thing is, any codebase of a large size is going to have holes, and OpenBSD's security...
[10:14:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Grammar cop here/ - 06IBM and Partners Develop 7nm Process Chips - 655 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:14:57] <exec> 08└─"The Spice Girls" is a proper noun too, is it singular? I can only imagine "The Spice Girls have reformed" as a headline (in my nightmares). Your rule isn't a rule. A better answer is "it depends what side of the atlantic you're on, and the type of the entity you're talking about, and the precise fo...
[10:18:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score:1) 02Re:Some experience to share - 06Backups and Upgrades and VMs, Oh My! - 576 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:18:00] <exec> 08└─Ooops, I made a mistake in (4) The user data isn't in /usr; it is in /home. In my defence, I was both rushed and tired when I typed that up. As to why user data isn't in /usr: there is a story behind that. It was originally. See here: http://lists.busybox.net
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[11:13:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02public roads belong to the popular public - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:13:59] <exec> 08└─Unpopular losers are trespassing on public land because nobody wants to see losers in public. Put all the undesirables in prison where they belong. Those undesirable anarchist losers are totally out of control.
[11:14:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02He's a fucking twat - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 805 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:14:00] <exec> 08└─He starts with an inane rant that displays his complete lack of understanding of the use of tropes in English. Of course those three entities do not form a singular thing that either is or represents "Europe", it's just a simple metonymy, using one term to refer to things that it is associated with....
[11:14:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Baa baa Jury Sheep - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:14:02] <exec> 08└─The Jury are fucking guilty of being stupid obedient shits, or in other words, Americans. If there were even one juror with any integrity, this mistrial should have ended in deadlock.
[11:14:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02and the winner is, - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:14:03] <exec> 08└─attorney Eric Friday. He's just so fucking pleased to be a lawyer in a litigious police state. There's plenty of lucrative work for lawyers, until they're disbarred for failure to suck honorable judge cock, that is. So the real winners are the judges, because they can make thinking contemptuous thou...
[11:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Wow - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:14:05] <exec> 08└─I guess today is an appropriate day for my sig...
[11:14:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No doubt, but... - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 509 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:18] <exec> 08└─I know that interest is a red flag for the left, but it is an important regulator in a market economy. You can't just "create what we need", because usually you don't know how much that is, and even if you did, you wouldn't know who would need it and who would just want it. That is also why people g...
[11:14:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No doubt, but... - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:20] <exec> 08└─I believe the US is fixing to see our debt come back to bite us pretty soon.
[11:14:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No doubt, but... - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:21] <exec> 08└─You will have to include ratings agencies that gave AAA ratings to those Mortgage-backed securities. And being the devil's advocate: The role of a bank is to satisfy its customers requests, not think of their long-term financial future and security. If someone wants to buy MBS's, sell it to him.
[11:14:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:There have been challenges here... - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 509 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:26] <exec> 08└─So what you're saying is that the north European countries like, oh I don't know, Germany, would not be such economic losers if they abandoned their "living within their means" dogma? Schäuble should just go hogwild with investments, "black zero" be damned, and Germany would turn into an economic p...
[11:14:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Didn't click any of my links, did you? - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 874 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:28] <exec> 08└─I already said that Greece needed a true Left gov't earlier. I already said that taking advice from IMF is dumb. Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Isn't it interesting how Germany had their own debts written down after WWI *and* after WWII? Why won't they...
[11:14:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Didn't click any of my links, did you? - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:29] <exec> 08└─It's sad how quickly the left resort to name calling.
[11:14:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondrake [2658] (Score:2) 02Re:That is the word - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:31] <exec> 08└─that was some sort of joke (see the entrepeneur statement a line later).
[11:14:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score:2) 02Re:Cannot understand the claim austerity doesn't w - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 1126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:34] <exec> 08└─There is a balance mechanism in place in the eurozone, it is called the stability and growth pact. The problem is it has no enforcement with teeth so everyone ignores it. At worst they can fine a country that spends / borrows too much - like that is going to help. There needs/needed to be a stronger...
[11:14:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score:2) 02Re:Cannot understand the claim austerity doesn't w - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:36] <exec> 08└─What you are missing here is that they tried austerity and it failed them.
[11:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03geb [529] (Score:2) 02Re:Cannot understand the claim austerity doesn't w - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 1426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:37] <exec> 08└─The Greek governments before 2008 borrowed massive quantities of money and poured it into the economy, unsustainably raising GDP in the process. Some of it was spent on infrastructure, but not a lot of it. Most of it just ended up being spent on imported goods or services. It went on for so long tha...
[11:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score:2) 02Because the words don't mean what they used to - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 1155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:39] <exec> 08└─"Austerity" has be redefined to mean "spending a bit less than before but still borrowing in order to pay our debts". The UK has been doing "austerity" by reducing the deficit by half over five years - er, provided you measure it in terms of gdp that is. Austerity used to mean living visibly well be...
[11:14:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedBear [1734] (Score:2) 02Economies are engines - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 3347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:14:41] <exec> 08└─I expect the typical negative response to this article, but I must say that I have seen no observational evidence that a national economy functions anything like a household budget. Economies are very complex systems in which wealth is frequently spontaneously created and/or destroyed via a plethora...
[11:15:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02rule of predictions - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:15:12] <exec> 08└─If you're going to predict something, make your prediction so far in the future that no one will remember it by the time it comes around. I always ask myself - what were people predicting this far in the past, and were they right back then? In 1980 (ie 35 years in the past), what were people predict...
[11:15:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:OpenBSD's code quality may be good but ... - 06Microsoft Makes "Significant Financial Donation" to OpenBSD Foundation - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:15:37] <exec> 08└─Apache has been removed from base in 5.6 in favor of nginx which is removed in favour in-house-developed httpd.
[11:16:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Source Material? - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 765 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:16:32] <exec> 08└─There are more differences between the earth and the moon than just atmosphere. A few that spring immediately to mind: The earth is bigger, has a greater gravitational pull and so larger parts are under a higher pressure than is found on the moon. Pressure has a direct effect on temperature, in gene...
[11:18:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:cooties! - 06 Tinkering School is Where Kids Go to Build Marvelous Things - 437 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:18:13] <exec> 08└─Some classes that prohibit boys from attending are fine, as long as they have some classes that also prohibit girls from attending. What really makes me mad is when everybody's like "Oh, girls need all-girls classes for REASONS, but boys shouldn't have all-boys classes because that's sexist!" Nope,...
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[12:13:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Does the dress make me look fat? - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:51] <exec> 08└─You better answer truthfully!
[12:14:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:He's a fucking twat - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:01] <exec> 08└─I didn't read any further
[12:14:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Arbitrary "credentialled media" rules? - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:05] <exec> 08└─Judge Brent Shore created arbitrary "credentialed media" rules that prevented PINAC from filming the court case, but allowed photographers from The Florida Times-Union and News4Jax to cover the trial at the last moment.
[12:14:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Fire in a crowded theater - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:07] <exec> 08└─"Shouting out on the Courthouse grounds that the Court and judges are "corrupt" during business hours while people are entering the Courthouse is entirely inappropriate and disruptive and is analogous to falsely shouting "fire" in a crowded theater..." People say that shouting "fire" in a crowded th...
[12:14:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fire in a crowded theater - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:09] <exec> 08└─Shouting out on the Courthouse grounds that the Court and judges are "corrupt" during business hours while people are entering the Courthouse is entirely inappropriate and disruptive and is analogous to falsely shouting "fire" in a crowded theater.
[12:14:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Analysis of "shouting 'fire' in a crowded theater" - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:10] <exec> 08└─Popehat did a detailed analysis [popehat.com] of the "shouting 'fire' in a theater" nonsense, in the context of a different case. tl;dr: This was a precedent used around WWI to punish people protesting against the war. Since then, such protests have been declared absolutely legal. So this phrase ref...
[12:14:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cannot understand the claim austerity doesn't w - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:40] <exec> 08└─And not bad for an economy whose main industry is eurozone tax haven for multinationals.
[12:14:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cannot understand the claim austerity doesn't w - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:44] <exec> 08└─Fancy that, rewriting a phrase changes the meaning.
[12:14:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Economies are engines - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 847 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:46] <exec> 08└─A lot of Greeks own houses, flats and company stock*. No, I'm not talking about the assets in Greece but about the ones in Berlin, for example. If Greeks had more, not less, faith in their own country than they expect from the Eurozone, reformed their government to use money wisely instead of funnel...
[12:14:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Cut to the chase - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:48] <exec> 08└─TFS is an indictment of the structure and the running of eurozone. It implies Greece should get out of eurozone, regain economic sovereignty and get its act together. HOWEVER, the Greeks don't want to. Many of them don't trust their own government's/politicians' competence. Can't have it both ways.
[12:15:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Honestly, no issues with this - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:14] <exec> 08└─Have you ever lived an extended time in suburbia or in a rural area? How can you compare with only one experience? It could just be that you would be much happier living the country life.
[12:17:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Do you hear that? It's the sound of the world's - 06Hacking Team Complains That its Leaked Zero-Days Will be Misused - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:17:58] <exec> 08└─What is a "zero-day"? Oh. OH! You meant a "technology"! Yeah, it's an important distinction. A zero-day is something villains use to get access to your computer in order to mess up your My Documents folder! HackingTeam isn't a bunch of thugs. They use technology to help governments cyber-spy on the...
[12:18:49] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] 02Re:There are plenty of non-systemd Linux distribut - 06Backups and Upgrades and VMs, Oh My! - 3031 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:18:49] <exec> 08└─Look I may be the token "Windows guy" here so feel free to tell me to fuck off but systemd even has MY spidey sense tingling, just from what I saw which was ... 1.-Normally VERY technical Linux devs, the kind that would give you a fricking book on "why we did this" so filled with technical jargon it...
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[13:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Does the dress make me look fat? - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:19] <exec> 08└─Yes, you need something with a lower neckline and a higher hem.
[13:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Pickens stole my story - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:21] <exec> 08└─I made an almost identical submission to SN three years ago, but it got rejected by the editors.
[13:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Touché) 02Re:Pickens stole my story - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:23] <exec> 08└─Well, that's probably because most of the links didn't yet work three years ago. :-)
[13:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score:2) 02Re:Pickens stole my story - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:24] <exec> 08└─Soylent News didn't work so well three years ago either....
[13:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Meaningless percentage - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:26] <exec> 08└─The 82.5% figure is completely meaningless. What would be meaningful would be separate false positive/false negative rates. Anyway, that rate means that roughly 1 of 5 times the system gets it wrong. Not really what I'd consider a reliable information.
[13:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Meaningless percentage - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:28] <exec> 08└─And it gets worse if you start dealing with people that deliberately pollute the source of information with a lot of random stuff that's not even intended to be taken seriously.
[13:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03OwMyBrain [5044] (Score:1) 02Overly Cautious - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:29] <exec> 08└─"The permanent confrontation with a verifiable truth will turn us into overly cautious, calculating, and suspicious people."
[13:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Overly Cautious - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:31] <exec> 08└─"The permanent confrontation with a verifiable truth will turn us into overly cautious, calculating, and suspicious people."
[13:13:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Verifiable Truth? - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 604 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:32] <exec> 08└─> The permanent confrontation with a verifiable truth Hardly. Web search results are another data point but they are only as good as whoever created them. We have all heard the horror stories about piss-poor data accuracy just because there is no qualty assurance and errors propagate. These things...
[13:13:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score:2) 02Citation please...... - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:34] <exec> 08└─"Just like you can Google a fact to end an argument," Just try that on a political or religious forum and tell me how that goes....
[13:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02You're kidding me, right? - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:36] <exec> 08└─"The research shows the way lies are really uncovered is by comparing what someone is saying to the evidence," says Tim Levine
[13:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Baa baa Jury Sheep - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:43] <exec> 08└─They were probably also Obama voters.
[13:13:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Baa baa Jury Sheep - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:45] <exec> 08└─Voire dire filters out any such people by design.
[13:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03caffeine [249] (Score:1) 02Re:No doubt, but... - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:02] <exec> 08└─Most currencies are floated and the market defines the exchange rate. This makes it fairly easy to drive any country into hyperinflation by devaluing their currency and making their debts impossible to repay. Surely the Germans understand this after WWI reparations drove the Weimar Republic into hyp...
[13:14:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:No doubt, but... - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:05] <exec> 08└─The US is the poster child here, with a long-term inflation rate approaching 10% (officially it's a lot lower, since the index was been carefully redefined in the 1990s to produce this effect).
[13:14:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcross [4009] (Score:2) 02Re:You're cheering on Communists. - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 715 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:11] <exec> 08└─This is an interesting take on the import/export issue and why that might be the case: http://thehill.com [thehill.com] The summary is that Germany and Greece sharing the Euro makes the Euro less valuable as Germ...
[13:14:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You're cheering on Communists. - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 476 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:12] <exec> 08└─The European Union also transfers money through more spending in regions that need it and collecting more in regions that can afford it. Greece has been a major beneficiary of that system. The one thing that Europe doesn't have is that a broke member country isn't put under federal insolvency admini...
[13:14:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:You're cheering on Communists. - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 663 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:17] <exec> 08└─I'd say, by and large, the worst results of super-politicized capitalism very naturally drive people into the arms of communists, if they're the only alternatives who are given any voice in the debate. If the only people saying "Hey, maybe we shouldn't destroy our middle class for the interests of e...
[13:14:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondrake [2658] (Score:2) 02Re:Economies are engines - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 2655 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:31] <exec> 08└─I have read the article, and found it interesting. Yet also greatly disturbing. I agree with his economic viewpoint (austerity being bad for economy) but I feel this guy has some trouble understanding European culture. Or at least, he and I differ quite a lot in our views about that. Frankly, he see...
[13:15:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:ORLY? - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 734 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:15:02] <exec> 08└─You're talking about the Great Lawn, which represents a fraction of the acreage of Central Park. That's where they hold the outdoor concerts because it's the only place where they could hold a concert (not including the dedicated performance spaces of SummerStage and Shakespeare in the Park). The to...
[13:15:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:rule of predictions - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 919 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:15:08] <exec> 08└─The first rule of prediction is make your prediction so far in the future that no one will remember it by the time it comes around. The second rule of prediction is make your prediction as vague as possible so it is unlikely to disagree with whatever happens. The third rule of prediction is make you...
[13:16:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Not Another [FillInTheBlank]gate - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:16:36] <exec> 08└─That wikipedia summary is poorly written. You have to get to the final paragraph of the summary to find out that the claims were complete bullshit. Up until there it's a very "he said-she said" faux-balance wording. I guess that's an objection I should take to wikipedia and not here, but jeez.
[13:17:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:My expectation was way off - 06 Tinkering School is Where Kids Go to Build Marvelous Things - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:17:56] <exec> 08└─Where do all these people think the people who build or maintain things in the future will come from? Mexico? China?
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[14:13:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Research Article - 06Genomic Data Growing Faster Than Twitter and YouTube - 640 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:04] <exec> 08└─Here is the research article: http://journals.plos.org [plos.org] I predict that after decades of fishing the genomic data ocean and finding "significant" relationships, researcher's will finally realize genome sequence is relatively unimportant wh...
[14:13:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Research Article - 06Genomic Data Growing Faster Than Twitter and YouTube - 661 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:05] <exec> 08└─Then I don't think you know what they're fishing for. Genomic(and epigenomic) research has already shown some of the most common differentiations of cancer cells. And many of the newest chemotherapies on the market specifically target proteins, enzymes, and processes that genetic research has reveal...
[14:13:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Bah - 06Genomic Data Growing Faster Than Twitter and YouTube - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:07] <exec> 08└─my digestive system sequences and processes more than 10^23 bases every day, not electricity required.
[14:13:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bah - 06Genomic Data Growing Faster Than Twitter and YouTube - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:08] <exec> 08└─so my stomach growling is basically its way of saying "all your base are sequence by me". right?
[14:13:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03morgauxo [2082] (Score:2) 02Genomic Data Growing Faster Than Twitter and YouTu - 06Genomic Data Growing Faster Than Twitter and YouTube - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:10] <exec> 08└─Genomic Data Growing Faster Than Twitter and YouTube?!? Nonsense! It has taken billions of years to get that big. It's just finally being read by someone is all!
[14:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Does the dress make me look fat? - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:20] <exec> 08└─No, that dress doesn't make you look fat. (Unspoken: Because that would mean you'd not look fat without it.)
[14:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score:2) 02Re:Meaningless percentage - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 552 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:26] <exec> 08└─"And it gets worse if you start dealing with people that deliberately pollute the source of information with a lot of random stuff that's not even intended to be taken seriously. " Hmm, I'm having trouble finding anything on the internet that DOESN'T fit that description. Maybe they should do a test...
[14:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Meaningless percentage - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:27] <exec> 08└─Maybe they should do a test run on a few political sites, it could be helpful to know which politicians were telling the truth
[14:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Overly Cautious - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:30] <exec> 08└─ahh I see what you did there :P
[14:13:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Citation please...... - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 1303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:33] <exec> 08└─It's worse than that: 1. Google and other search engines have been known to get things wrong. Especially when a group who wants to promote a lie has access to a lot of money to spend on SEO. 2. Search engines only find what you want to find. It is not infrequent for somebody with predisposed false b...
[14:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score:2) 02I should never click on these articles.. - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 800 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:35] <exec> 08└─" lying may soon become a lost art " The end of all political and religious organizations worldwide. All of our cultures are based upon one lie or another. And they have a millennium of practice at using facts and accurate statistics to lie. And since when did 'facts' dissuade people? Politicians ro...
[14:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02The End of Lying - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:36] <exec> 08└─I'll believe it when the media starts telling the truth. It's easy to lie. All you have to do is not care about who or what you are lying about. I'm sure most people could lie to your face and tell you that a blue pen is actually red. Good luck getting some algorithm to check whether someone is lyin...
[14:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:He's a fucking twat - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:47] <exec> 08└─I'm fairly sure it was a response to the previous story about Greek debt.
[14:13:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Fire in a crowded theater - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:56] <exec> 08└─I would think charging someone for trespassing on a public road is a far more clear and present danger.
[14:14:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03threedigits [607] (Score:2) 02Re:No doubt, but... - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:14] <exec> 08└─The fact that inflation is essentially a huge, indirect tax on savings and pensions - essentially stealing from your population rich? Nah, we won't mention that...
[14:14:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score:1) 02Re:Didn't click any of my links, did you? - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:25] <exec> 08└─Why won't Germany pay the debts they still owe Greece from WWII?
[14:14:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Didn't click any of my links, did you? - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:27] <exec> 08└─and the ransom money we paid for king richard - pure and simple criminal kidnapping and extortion, practically bankrupted England at the time.
[14:14:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You're cheering on Communists. - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 453 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:29] <exec> 08└─Greece didn't have a recession, it had and still has a debt crisis. Like when people get a new credit card to pay off the old credit card debt. That kind of crisis. You don't solve that problem by approving yet another credit card. Folks, I know that Keynes has some alluring ideas, but this is not a...
[14:14:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You're cheering on Communists. - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:31] <exec> 08└─Greece's problem is a lack of liquidity. None of the solutions being offered at this point address the. Sometimes you have to cut your losses short... I think in tech, we call it fail often but fail fast. Why can't the same be true in this case?
[14:14:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You're cheering on Communists. - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:32] <exec> 08└─Greece's problem is a lack of liquidity.
[14:14:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:You're cheering on Communists. - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:34] <exec> 08└─Yes, Greece did stupid shit to get into its current situation. That doesn't mean doing stupid shit is the way to get out.
[14:14:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You're cheering on Communists. - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:36] <exec> 08└─You know that, right? Syriza is literally "the radical left". Tsipras joined the communist party at the age of 16.
[14:14:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03threedigits [607] (Score:2) 02Re:You're cheering on Communists. - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:37] <exec> 08└─The Greek debt was very sustainable until Syriza's rise to power caused capital flight and crashed the economy starting at the end of 2014.
[14:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You're cheering on Communists. - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 555 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:39] <exec> 08└─The political changes were already visible at the end of 2014, and a lot of people stopped paying their taxes because Syriza had promised lower taxes. The Greek debt caused the crisis, so obviously at that point it wasn't sustainable. You didn't miss that I mentioned the 2012 haircut and restructuri...
[14:14:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03threedigits [607] (Score:2) 02Re:You're cheering on Communists. - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:40] <exec> 08└─Austerity does not mean starving the poor.
[14:14:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cannot understand the claim austerity doesn't w - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:49] <exec> 08└─There sometimes is a minimum amount of spend that you have to incur. If you can only spend 2 bucks per day because your creditors tell you to, but you need to spend 4 in order to stay alive that it makes sense to spend only 2. If you do that, you'll starve to death. This is what I don't get in the c...
[14:14:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03RedBear [1734] 02Economies are engines - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 3347 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:51] <exec> 08└─I expect the typical negative response to this article, but I must say that I have seen no observational evidence that a national economy functions anything like a household budget. Economies are very complex systems in which wealth is frequently spontaneously created and/or destroyed via a plethora...
[14:15:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:depends how old you are - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 587 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:05] <exec> 08└─I find that people in the city have a remarkable ability to live inside their own bubble. Having not grown up in the city I often find the degree to which they can do that dismaying. It often expresses itself through tribalism. People from one group have no regard for people from every other group....
[14:15:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:depends how old you are - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:06] <exec> 08└─If you're a homebody then the city offers even less. So what if there's 6 bars within a block of me if I'd rather sit at home and watch Netflix with a beer in hand, plus that single bottle would have cost more at the bar than the entire case in my kitchen that I bought from the store?
[14:15:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:depends how old you are - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:09] <exec> 08└─In the city there are a lot of services for the elderly. Meals on Wheels, Senior Centers, etc. Lots of museums and cultural events, many of them free. Everything you need is within a block or two, so no need to drive.
[14:15:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:depends how old you are - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:11] <exec> 08└─That last bit is really the most important one. If you live in the country, and you can't drive a car because of failing eyesight or arthritis, then you better hope there are some relatives who live nearby and still like you.
[14:15:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Are all those assertions really true? - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 3692 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:21] <exec> 08└─NYC has lots of rats, but you don't see them that often unless you're up at 3am when they come out. Even then, you've got to be up at 3am on a less-travelled block. I've lived here since my late 20's, when I was up at those times and going to clubs, to my 40's now as a family man who goes to bed at...
[14:15:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:NOPE - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:25] <exec> 08└─People do that. Thanks to the city's 24-hr culture you can do that. There is always a diner open at 4am somewhere nearby. There are 24-hr grocery stores. Bars almost never seem to close.
[14:15:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Alarmist bullshit - 06Microsoft Makes "Significant Financial Donation" to OpenBSD Foundation - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:53] <exec> 08└─You sound pretty confident about that.
[14:17:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Not Another [FillInTheBlank]gate - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:17:04] <exec> 08└─You have to get to the final paragraph of the summary to find out that the claims were complete bullshit. Up until there it's a very "he said-she said" faux-balance wording.
[14:17:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:At least we have that going for us.... - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:17:16] <exec> 08└─The post you replied to was talking abouyt people who were WILLFULLY ignorant of the damage they were doing.
[14:17:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:What fossil fuel companies knew - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:17:23] <exec> 08└─It isn't likely to reach the point of apocalypse in their lifetime, just the point where it will really suck for people who aren't rich.
[14:17:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03gidds [589] (Score:2) 02Re: They're probably right - 06Hacking Team Complains That its Leaked Zero-Days Will be Misused - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:17:49] <exec> 08└─the inevitable aftermath will *still* not serve as a wake up call to the NSA, GCHQ, FBI, etc. that hoarding zero days or deliberately introducing backdoors into security and encryption products is very bad idea.
[14:18:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:cooties! - 06 Tinkering School is Where Kids Go to Build Marvelous Things - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:18:36] <exec> 08└─They must actually be practicing secret Amazon techniques that are forbidden to teach to men,
[14:19:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score:2) 02Re:long-term plan - 06Backups and Upgrades and VMs, Oh My! - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:19:32] <exec> 08└─I am possibly extraordinarily lucky in this respect, but I have never had a hard drive fail. Motherboards yes, power supplies yes, but I have been able to pull out every hard drive from a dead PC and extract the data. In a couple instances I simply plopped the hard drive in another PC and fired it u...
[14:20:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:DTQP - 06New York Stock Exchange Shut Down Temporarily Due to "Internal Technical Issue" - 1493 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:20:32] <exec> 08└─Yes Bradley is now Chelsea. At the time he acted, he was still a 'he' so I chose that pronoun. I believe that techs are the best positioned to fight the top criminals, the bankers, who commit their crimes using the systems we build and manage for them. A Navy SEAL team can kill a room full of banker...
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[15:13:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Research Article - 06Genomic Data Growing Faster Than Twitter and YouTube - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:13] <exec> 08└─Genomic(and epigenomic) research has already shown some of the most common differentiations of cancer cells. And many of the newest chemotherapies on the market specifically target proteins, enzymes, and processes that genetic research has revealed to be tied to specific kinds of cancer.
[15:13:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Research Article - 06Genomic Data Growing Faster Than Twitter and YouTube - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:14] <exec> 08└─Interesting. I'll have to rethink (and further research) my understanding of cancer.
[15:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Genomic Data Growing Faster Than Twitter and Yo - 06Genomic Data Growing Faster Than Twitter and YouTube - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:19] <exec> 08└─YEah I'm more interested to know the rate at which the actual data is growing, not our feeble efforts to read it.
[15:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score:2) 02Re:Citation please...... - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:42] <exec> 08└─Yes indeed, so very many issues have no definitive right or wrong, how would this program cope with shades of grey. BTW, Donner Party? Phhhht, Vote Cthulhu/Dagon 2016, why vote for the lesser of two evils? (-:
[15:14:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wow - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:03] <exec> 08└─Quoting your sig so that the context doesn't get lost if some day you should change it: Before a revolution can take place, the population must lose faith in both the police and the courts -Heinlein, "Friday"
[15:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Wow - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 637 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:04] <exec> 08└─Yep. It seems the first step is to completely blow away the illusion of authority, especially moral authority, of the police and courts and politicians and bankers and CEOs. It must be made abundantly clear, not simply based on supposition and suspicion because nearly everyone is already there, but...
[15:14:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:3, Funny) 02Stupid Guy, Stupid Judge, Stupid Jury - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:10] <exec> 08└─Seems like a regular Circus. Some Clown going around doing stupid stuff, but clearly not illegal. Some Judge taking the law and making a pretzel out of it as far as I can tell, because he felt like it. Really, the sad part is the Jury Not Throwing the stupid allegations into a toilet bowl and flushi...
[15:14:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Stupid Guy, Stupid Judge, Stupid Jury - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:12] <exec> 08└─You know what else is a regular circus? Random unnecessary capitalization.
[15:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:3, Insightful) 02You can be Barred from Invoking the 1st Amendment? - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 747 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:14] <exec> 08└─Really, since when? Can you also be barred from invoking your 5th Amendment protection against self-incrimination, too? How about habeus corpus? Any other bedrock principle in American law that this or any judge can summarily rule "out of bounds?" To me it's another data point that supports the hypo...
[15:14:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:No doubt, but... - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:27] <exec> 08└─You err. The government can indeed "create what we need" - the Fed does it all the time. I think that GP's question was, "Why are we paying interest on it?" THAT is the 64 trillion dollar question. We owe the banking cartel nothing - we can start printing our own money any time we take a mind to.
[15:14:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No doubt, but... - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:28] <exec> 08└─No you can't. Well, at least not for long. Because then you'll get trouble with the authorities.
[15:14:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:No doubt, but... - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 619 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:30] <exec> 08└─"why does it come with interest attached?" Because, our congress abdicated it's right and responsibility to print money, and ceded that right to a private banking institution, which is profit driven. When "Greenbacks" were still in circulation, government still had a controlling influence over the e...
[15:14:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:No doubt, but... - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:34] <exec> 08└─Let the buyer beware, ehh? Never mind predatory business practices. In MOST sane and rational societies, sales of those toxic securities would be called "extortion", "graft", "fraud", and several other things. But, you're cool with fraud, so long as the Good Old Boys on Wall Street are committing it...
[15:14:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Didn't click any of my links, did you? - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:47] <exec> 08└─Forget it. That's all there is to say about that. You're chasing the wind.
[15:14:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03cyrano [1034] (Score:2) 02Re:Didn't click any of my links, did you? - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:48] <exec> 08└─Most of this growth is as a tax haven for Apple, IBM and a few other very big corporations who bring little employment but shift boatloads of money from the rest of the EU to countries where they keep their stash...
[15:14:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You're cheering on Communists. - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:59] <exec> 08└─So what do you propose? Let Greece rack up more debt, even though they are already saddled with twice as much debt per capita as Germany (while having a gross domestic product that's 40% lower per capita)? What good is that going to do? Or do you suggest that Europe should just keep giving money to...
[15:15:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:You're cheering on Communists. - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:01] <exec> 08└─Were the shipyard owners also communists? Historically, Greece has had a very huge interest in ship building, ship repair, and maintenance. Why is it that the EU mandated that Greece give up it's dominant position in the industry, and help to finance it's upstart competitors - France and Germany? Th...
[15:15:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03cyrano [1034] (Score:2) 02Re:You're cheering on Communists. - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 493 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:02] <exec> 08└─Some years ago, the Greek government spent a lot of money to get advice from American and German banks. The banks probably knew how they would proceed the next few years. Yet, they advised the Greek government one way and promptly started acting opposite. How do you think a small country's debt evo...
[15:15:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:depends how old you are - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:28] <exec> 08└─Those people look like zombies. Shuffling about with little awareness of what's going on right next to them.
[15:15:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:depends how old you are - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:31] <exec> 08└─And the fact that you had not to drive several miles to get to that store means nothing to you?
[15:15:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:By 2050 there won't even be a Rural. - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:37] <exec> 08└─You think the Opium Farmers don't have a structure? I'd say there's probably some sort of structure. Like the Mafia, or something else. Might could argue that it's already incorporated, but by Criminals.
[15:17:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03randmcnatt [671] 02Re:Source Material? - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 87 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:17:06] <exec> 08└─There's a link [amazonaws.com] there to all 336 pages. Is that what you're thinking of?
[15:17:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Source Material? - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:17:16] <exec> 08└─Pressure has a direct effect on temperature, in general higher pressure means higher temperature.
[15:17:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Not Another [FillInTheBlank]gate - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:17:31] <exec> 08└─You have to get to the final paragraph of the summary to find out that the claims were complete bullshit.
[15:18:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Love the Doublespeak - 06Hacking Team Complains That its Leaked Zero-Days Will be Misused - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:18:09] <exec> 08└─One persons bug is another's "trade secret". I just love that these hackers got hacked.
[15:18:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bradley13 [3053] 02Junkyard playgrounds - 06 Tinkering School is Where Kids Go to Build Marvelous Things - 391 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:18:50] <exec> 08└─There are a few places still in the UK - basically controlled junkyards - where kids can do things like this. The one huge criticism I have is: there really shouldn't be any "adults who are guiding the projects to completion". Success to an adult may be very different from success to a kid. Have an...
[15:19:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Linux v Windows - 06Backups and Upgrades and VMs, Oh My! - 449 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:19:27] <exec> 08└─Portability options. In the Linux world, tyhe disk transplant upgrade works very well. Just take the disk out of the old hardware, stick it in the new hardware. No 3rd degree treatment as if you are a criminal, it just boots. New HD, just copy the old disk partitions to the new disk and you're done....
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[16:13:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Saw the headline last night - 06Inside an MRI, a Non-Metallic Robot Performs Prostate Surgery - 832 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:05] <exec> 08└─I was getting ready for work, and had to put off reading it. But, the wife and I agreed instantly that it's awesome. We've both lost family members who might have lived for years, if the doctors had something like this to work with. Does it need to be pointed out how useful this little bot will be i...
[16:13:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I couldn't resist.. - 06Inside an MRI, a Non-Metallic Robot Performs Prostate Surgery - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:06] <exec> 08└─In Soviet Russia, shiny metal robot bites YOUR ass.
[16:13:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02real time - 06Inside an MRI, a Non-Metallic Robot Performs Prostate Surgery - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:07] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_resonance_imaging#Safety_of_MRI [wikipedia.org] How come the surgery bot needs real time imaging? Can't it work with just a few images?
[16:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Research Article - 06Genomic Data Growing Faster Than Twitter and YouTube - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:19] <exec> 08└─You can see the error in this paper. The parameter p refers to probability of a tumor cell forming: For small p (which is always the case in realistic scenarios) , eqn (1) can be usefully (and very accurately) simplified
[16:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Genomic Data Growing Faster Than Twitter and Yo - 06Genomic Data Growing Faster Than Twitter and YouTube - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:24] <exec> 08└─Oh, it's read by the cells all the time. It's just the first time it is read by human brains.
[16:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02Lucky you! - 06Genomic Data Growing Faster Than Twitter and YouTube - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:26] <exec> 08└─"Cripes, wouldn't you hate to be the guy paying the electricity bill to process that much data?" If you're a tax payer and a consumer, you already are.
[16:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score:1) 02Real size - 06Genomic Data Growing Faster Than Twitter and YouTube - 502 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:27] <exec> 08└─The article uses a very naiv extrapolation for its prediction. Currently, sequences are stored in quite raw a format, i.e., individual small sequence reads that are redundant at a factor of 20 to 100. Once technologies mature only finished data can get rid of this factor. For organisms with well cha...
[16:13:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] 02Re:Does the dress make me look fat? - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 63 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:37] <exec> 08└─Yes, you need something with a lower neckline and a higher hem.
[16:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Meaningless percentage - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:46] <exec> 08└─That's a lot better than the polygraph. Of course in the early days of the polygraph they claimed an over 90% indication of guilt/lying.
[16:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Re:Overly Cautious - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 1309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:50] <exec> 08└─Alternatively, we might just accept that everyone has mistakes and transgressions in their past. A new social contract could emerge based on a synthesis of the "glass houses" aphorism and Mutually Assured Destruction theory. That is, I refrain from digging through your past in search of gossip to us...
[16:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Verifiable Truth? - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:52] <exec> 08└─Then there now is PhotoShop and other image editing programs.
[16:13:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] 02Citation please...... - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 131 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:53] <exec> 08└─"Just like you can Google a fact to end an argument," Just try that on a political or religious forum and tell me how that goes....
[16:13:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I should never click on these articles.. - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 636 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:58] <exec> 08└─A program like this will just be assumed/accused of being wrong regardless of how accurate it is Unless it is politically convenient. "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" Most of us would consider a blow job sexual relations but apparently he didnt... Your bias is democrat. I can live w...
[16:14:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:He's a fucking twat - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:12] <exec> 08└─It's all Greek to me.
[16:14:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Justin Case [4239] 02Wow - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 49 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:17] <exec> 08└─I guess today is an appropriate day for my sig...
[16:14:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Spamalope [5233] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Arbitrary "credentialled media" rules? - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 2016 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:21] <exec> 08└─Legally, main stream media have no greater rights than anyone with a cell phone camera. The courts may address the number of media people to address space constraints, and the manner the recordings are made to prevent disruption in the courtroom. (i.e. control over-crowding if the trial is a media c...
[16:14:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fire in a crowded theater - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:25] <exec> 08└─Shouting [...] that the Court and judges are "corrupt" during business hours [...] is entirely inappropriate [...]
[16:14:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Stupid Guy, Stupid Judge, Stupid Jury - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:29] <exec> 08└─Unnecessary, yet Entertaining.
[16:14:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You can be Barred from Invoking the 1st Amendme - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:31] <exec> 08└─Since you gave up your liberties in the name of security. Gee, who could have thought that the price of authoritarianism is freedom.
[16:14:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You can be Barred from Invoking the 1st Amendme - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:32] <exec> 08└─To me it's another data point that supports the hypothesis that the government in this country has abandoned the Rule of Law for Rule by Fiat.
[16:14:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02This is Florida... - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:34] <exec> 08└─The garbage dump of the country. What else did you expect?
[16:14:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:2) 02Depths of profound imbecility - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:35] <exec> 08└─Shouting out on the Courthouse grounds that the Court and judges are "corrupt" during business hours while people are entering the Courthouse is ... analogous to falsely shouting "fire" in a crowded theater
[16:15:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Didn't click any of my links, did you? - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:09] <exec> 08└─This guy doesn't seem to think that Germany ever paid its debts (I suppose war reparations aren't paying debts?): http://thewire.in [thewire.in]
[16:15:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:There have been challenges here... - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:11] <exec> 08└─Germany is a mercantile industrial state which benefits from the economic stagnation of the poorer states of Europe. I'd love to see the resource-poor and land-poor Germany maintain their position if they could no longer exploit all the European banana economies.
[16:15:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03cyrano [1034] (Score:2) 02Re:You're cheering on Communists. - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:17] <exec> 08└─No, it's not. Up until two weeks ago, they had all the liquidity they wanted .... the cause of the crisis was that Greece consumed more than they could afford...
[16:15:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03cyrano [1034] (Score:2) 02Re:Cannot understand the claim austerity doesn't w - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:38] <exec> 08└─Even the IMF has admitted in 2012 that austerity doesn't work: http://www.herald.ie [herald.ie] Not even for Ireland...
[16:15:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:depends how old you are - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:53] <exec> 08└─Those people don't need your seal of approval on their personal lifestyle.
[16:15:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:depends how old you are - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:54] <exec> 08└─Nobody will interrupt your stream of thoughts for some small talk.
[16:16:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:75% Urban, 25% Prison - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 561 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:07] <exec> 08└─Erm . . . I seriously hate it when anyone suggests that bicycling can be used for electric power generation. To avoid breaking conservation of energy, the maximum output power of a human, is limited by the input energy of the food they've consumed. And, humans are very, very, picky and selective eat...
[16:16:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Not in Clark County Washington - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:13] <exec> 08└─Because right now every place without light-rail is free of vandalism, drugs, and nuisances.
[16:16:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:OpenBSD's code quality may be good but ... - 06Microsoft Makes "Significant Financial Donation" to OpenBSD Foundation - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:53] <exec> 08└─Apache was from the 1.3 branch, then replaced with nginx and then again replaced with a homebrew httpd. I did forget OpenBSD shipped with bind, but on the flip side, it also ships with sendmail (which a misconfiguration is as good as a security exploit. And sendmail.cf was never friendly)
[16:18:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Not Another [FillInTheBlank]gate - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:18:02] <exec> 08└─And this is an example of a complete bullshit true believer. Dedicated to find something tenuous to turn into a real allegation, they take statements intended to improve PR as implication of completely different wrongdoing. The actual allegations: falsification, were complete and utter bullshit and...
[16:18:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:At least we have that going for us.... - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 1222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:18:14] <exec> 08└─As determined by post facto judgement, they were willfully ignorant. Check. In their time, they were (well, the lead gas guy anyhow) the acknowledged expert, so perhaps "willfully negligent" should be the post facto judgement. Or rather, anything should be the post facto judgement. Yes, lead in gas...
[16:18:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:What fossil fuel companies knew - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:18:22] <exec> 08└─Except that, in an apocalyptic scenario as you described, their electronic money has no value.
[16:19:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:No applications - 06Backups and Upgrades and VMs, Oh My! - 561 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:19:48] <exec> 08└─For proper imaging you want a self-booting tool that will bypass the installed OS entirely and and create an exact image of the drive or partition, which will then be bootable when restored, not just a file copy (which won't) . Norton Ghost used to be good, though haven't tried recent versions (and...
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[17:13:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02I always thought... - 06Why Do Puddles Stop Spreading? Unexplained by Physics - Until Now - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:13] <exec> 08└─I always thought the puddle would expand until the surface tension acting to hold it together came to exceed the spread caused by gravity as the water molecules roll on top of one another, at which point the puddle reaches an equilibrium (unless the surface is disturbed, in which case the puddle wil...
[17:13:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03JeanCroix [573] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:I always thought... - 06Why Do Puddles Stop Spreading? Unexplained by Physics - Until Now - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:16] <exec> 08└─Same here. As in " rel="url2html-31195">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_tension#Puddles_on_a_surface I'm not sure if the new paper is intending to contradict this, or just explain it on the nano scale.
[17:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03WizardFusion [498] (Score:2) 02Re:I always thought... - 06Why Do Puddles Stop Spreading? Unexplained by Physics - Until Now - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:18] <exec> 08└─Exactly this. If you add more water, it will expand again until the equilibrium is reached again.
[17:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain_nifty [4252] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:I always thought... - 06Why Do Puddles Stop Spreading? Unexplained by Physics - Until Now - 401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:22] <exec> 08└─Yea I thought this was more or less an understood, phenomena; surface tension, internal molecular/surface friction etc. balancing; of coarse that doesn't mean that fluid dynamics math could explain it - which is what they appear to have done. Navier-stokes equations are not very easy to work with an...
[17:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:I always thought... - 06Why Do Puddles Stop Spreading? Unexplained by Physics - Until Now - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:26] <exec> 08└─On top of surface tension, there's also atmospheric pressure.
[17:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I always thought... - 06Why Do Puddles Stop Spreading? Unexplained by Physics - Until Now - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:29] <exec> 08└─That's exactly what I thought. In fact a way to possibly test that is to make a puddle of soapy water. Soap reduces the surface tension of water. See if a puddle of soapy water spreads more than the puddle of regular water (given the same location, same amount of water and same temperature).
[17:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02The real reason - 06Why Do Puddles Stop Spreading? Unexplained by Physics - Until Now - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:31] <exec> 08└─The puddle stopped expanding because the dog finished piddling on the floor.
[17:13:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Surface Tension... - 06Why Do Puddles Stop Spreading? Unexplained by Physics - Until Now - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:34] <exec> 08└─Which is also the reason you can overfill a glass without spilling over. Basic physics 101.
[17:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Saw the headline last night - 06Inside an MRI, a Non-Metallic Robot Performs Prostate Surgery - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:38] <exec> 08└─I can imagine a bot pulling a bullet our through the same channel the bullet created on entry, instead of chopping up more good tissue for extraction.
[17:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Saw the headline last night - 06Inside an MRI, a Non-Metallic Robot Performs Prostate Surgery - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:40] <exec> 08└─Do we really need real time scans for a robot to pull out a bullet?
[17:13:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Storage requirement - 06Genomic Data Growing Faster Than Twitter and YouTube - 385 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:54] <exec> 08└─I've been wondering for a while how much storage space would be needed to store all the genetic information of our planet. Many species have similar DNA, so for compression one could store a library of basic DNA units and store a reference with a list of the differences. I guess if you would compres...
[17:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03infodragon [3509] (Score:2) 02Re:Does the dress make me look fat? - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:14:05] <exec> 08└─No, you're fat makes you look fat!
[17:14:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score:2) 02Re:I should never click on these articles.. - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 2038 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:14:27] <exec> 08└─"Your bias is democrat." No, my bias is moderate to slightly liberal. At this point in history it is probably best represented by the Democratic party, but show me a Republican with good ideas and I would jump ship in a hurry. I truly miss the days when both parties consisted of liberals and conserv...
[17:14:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Lying - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 4024 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:29] <exec> 08└─A) "Lie detection" is bollocks and is not even close to being admissible in court (except in the US, the morons!) - so taking any action based on "lie detection" is really just a way to get yourself into trouble. Yes, this includes polygraphs and all the other scaremongering rubbish about facial rec...
[17:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:public roads belong to the popular public - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:14:38] <exec> 08└─I am with you, but there is not enough room for all the corrupt cops.
[17:14:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Arbitrary "credentialled media" rules? - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:14:50] <exec> 08└─New rules were created specifically for this trial. Then changed whenever those associated with the defendant met them.
[17:14:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bradley13 [3053] 02Analysis of "shouting 'fire' in a crowded theater" - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 350 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:55] <exec> 08└─Popehat did a detailed analysis [popehat.com] of the "shouting 'fire' in a theater" nonsense, in the context of a different case. tl;dr: This was a precedent used around WWI to punish people protesting against the war. Since then, such protests have been declared absolutely legal. So this phrase ref...
[17:14:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02You can be Barred from Invoking the 1st Amendment? - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 747 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:15:00] <exec> 08└─Really, since when? Can you also be barred from invoking your 5th Amendment protection against self-incrimination, too? How about habeus corpus? Any other bedrock principle in American law that this or any judge can summarily rule "out of bounds?" To me it's another data point that supports the hypo...
[17:15:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03angst_ridden_hipster [5616] (Score:1) 02Of course - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:15:06] <exec> 08└─what this all means is that there will be more time and expense before this court's rulings are overturned by a competent court. If the defendant can afford it, he'll win in the end.
[17:15:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02falsely shouting "fire" in a crowded theater? - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:15:07] <exec> 08└─Sounds more like it's honestly shouting "fire" in a burning theatre.
[17:15:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:No doubt, but... - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:24] <exec> 08└─To me the big question is, if money can be created at zero cost as needed by the economy, why does it come with interest attached?
[17:15:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No doubt, but... - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:30] <exec> 08└─The US is the poster child here, with a long-term inflation rate approaching 10% (officially it's a lot lower, since the index was been carefully redefined in the 1990s to produce this effect).
[17:15:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You're cheering on Communists. - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 1314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:52] <exec> 08└─Maybe the Trojan horse was the cause of it all. You can always look further back. Assuming that Greece had a chance inside the Eurozone, and I see no reason to deny that, the cause of their problems was their overspending, not anything that happened earlier. I don't think there is any debate about t...
[17:16:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03purple_cobra [1435] (Score:1) 02Re:Cannot understand the claim austerity doesn't w - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:15] <exec> 08└─Whether you disagree with the former Finance Minister's (Yanis Varufakis [wikipedia.org]) various press statements or not, one of those statements should be taken on board by all involved in the issue: "You can't get more milk out of a sick cow by whipping it".
[17:16:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:depends how old you are - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 396 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:33] <exec> 08└─How is any of that different from the subub or rural lifestyle? You have room to do whatever you want. Your "thinking time" does not ever need to overlap with being around other people, unlike in the city where being alone is a premium. Doubly so considering with such space between individuals, if y...
[17:16:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:depends how old you are - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:37] <exec> 08└─And the fact that you had not to drive several miles to get to that store means nothing to you?
[17:16:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:depends how old you are - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:39] <exec> 08└─Who said I live in a rural area? I got 3 groceries stores less than 2 miles away and a convenience store within walking distance. Also that beer was picked up when the grocery shopping was done on the way home from work. And after the movie maybe I'll head out to my yard and relax by the firepit.
[17:18:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Source Material? - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:18:28] <exec> 08└─Too many ACs in this thread... I am this one (original): https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org] How would you calculate the average temperature of the moon given distance from the sun?
[17:18:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Not Another [FillInTheBlank]gate - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:18:47] <exec> 08└─The actual allegations: falsification, were complete and utter bullshit and you're a goddamn liar.
[17:18:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Not Another [FillInTheBlank]gate - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:18:48] <exec> 08└─To elaborate on my assertion, here's my post [slashdot.org] on Slashdot from July 11, 2010. However, it is worth noting that the disclosure of these stolen emails did not serve the public interest.
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[18:13:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaganar [605] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Doesn't look comfortable for different reasons... - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 476 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:05] <exec> 08└─Oh my, you might have to look at other people!? If you've ever been on a commuter train with opposite-facing seats, you may have noticed that it's pretty tolerable. Even a boon -- I've struck up conversations with plenty of folks on planes and trains, and I'm hopelessly introverted. The real questio...
[18:13:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03pendorbound [2688] (Score:2) 02Re:Doesn't look comfortable for different reasons. - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 574 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:06] <exec> 08└─I don't mind facing other people on trains, but when your legs are overlapped with them, maybe not so much. You're not looking at them from across the (already narrow) space between the seats. You're looking at them from less than the length of your own thighs. We're talking breath smelling, nose ha...
[18:13:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Is it even legal? - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:07] <exec> 08└─I'm not convinced it complies with emergency evacuation rules...
[18:13:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Is it even legal? - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 766 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:09] <exec> 08└─Was wondering the same thing. The only criteria for seat density is an absurd seat width, AND the amount of time it takes a trained team to exit the cabin. Its high time that congress start looking into this, and demanding more comfort in the seating and more room between rows and more width to the...
[18:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:I always thought... - 06Why Do Puddles Stop Spreading? Unexplained by Physics - Until Now - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:24] <exec> 08└─Yes, but I think these scientists are trying to get to the bottom of surface tension. (Surface tension, when you stop to think about it was never really explained in your science class, just more or less tossed out there as an explanation of lots of things like capillary action etc). One drop of det...
[18:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Surface Tension... - 06Why Do Puddles Stop Spreading? Unexplained by Physics - Until Now - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:26] <exec> 08└─Yeah, well, turns out it's not as simple as you think it is.
[18:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Saw the headline last night - 06Inside an MRI, a Non-Metallic Robot Performs Prostate Surgery - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:37] <exec> 08└─> I need to invest my paltry savings into this thing. You will, if you live in the US. As soon as they use one on you, you'll have to sell your house, your car, and probably at least one child.
[18:13:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score:2) 02Re:Lucky you! - 06Genomic Data Growing Faster Than Twitter and YouTube - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:58] <exec> 08└─If you're a tax payer and a consumer, you already are. It's worse than that: whenever you do something that involves data, your profile is monetized. You don't have to consume or pay taxes to be the one footing the bill: you just need to be a warm body that does something.
[18:13:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Real size - 06Genomic Data Growing Faster Than Twitter and YouTube - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:00] <exec> 08└─You're absolutely correct: http://bioinformatics.oxfordjournals.org [oxfordjournals.org]
[18:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03infodragon [3509] (Score:2) 02Re:Does the dress make me look fat? - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:13] <exec> 08└─My apologies for using "you're" rather than "your." I hang my head in shame for not using the preview button!
[18:14:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Beryllium Sphere (r) (5062) (Score:2) 02Lying will change - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:35] <exec> 08└─It will become something available only to the rich and powerful, who can flood TV networks with their own version and hire propaganda experts to frame their lies so that the victims will want to believe them. They are routinely getting away with it now. Pick your own favorite examples. Meanwhile, t...
[18:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02This makes me sad, - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:38] <exec> 08└─Not because i think lying is great, but it also means the end of good stories. Fisherman won't have caught fish "THIS BIG" anymore. There is some value in obfuscation in social life.
[18:15:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02Re:No doubt, but... - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:15:33] <exec> 08└─Yes. Modern Monetary Theory often say the aim should be 100% employment
[18:15:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02Re:No doubt, but... - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 663 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:15:38] <exec> 08└─Yes, but this is the point isn't it. It has nothing to do with debt denominated in one's own fiat currency. It has to do with inflation and deflation. Right now inflation is not the problem. We have low inflation. Fiat creation of money would not be a problem at first, but as inflation creeps up you...
[18:15:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03monster [1260] (Score:2) 02Re:No doubt, but... - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:15:45] <exec> 08└─There's no doubt at all that the bailouts were primarily intended to aid the European banking system, rather than Greece. Really, I don't know of anyone claiming otherwise.
[18:15:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02Re:No doubt, but... - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:15:47] <exec> 08└─I hear this all the time. If the whole world is in debt then the world blows up? Who are the owners of these debts? Debt is a number. Money is paper. It is a tool, and when that tool no longerworks, it is discarded.
[18:16:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02Re:You're cheering on Communists. - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:15] <exec> 08└─Debt forgiveness, obviously.
[18:16:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You're cheering on Communists. - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 516 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:16] <exec> 08└─Good, you first. The largest entity behind the IMF is the USA. So far, the IMF flat out refuses to forgive debt, even though they keep demanding it from everybody else. The vulture funds trading in the US are also welcome to forgive the debt they hold. Forgive me if I'm not holding my breath until t...
[18:16:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You're cheering on Communists. - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:19] <exec> 08└─Is it moral, or even legal, to advise your client to do one thing and then making damned sure this one thing fails?
[18:17:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:That is really tiny! - 06IBM and Partners Develop 7nm Process Chips - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:17:50] <exec> 08└─> I wonder what voltage they run on? 16nm can run at 0.73V I'm not sure how you can safety run below a diode drop in a real system.
[18:18:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Whole fleet of these? - 06UK to Develop "Quantum" 'Universal' Satellite - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:18:06] <exec> 08└─RHBD FPGA [xilinx.com] is a wonderful thing
[18:19:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Love the Doublespeak - 06Hacking Team Complains That its Leaked Zero-Days Will be Misused - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:19:32] <exec> 08└─The NRA would like a chat with you. In a discrete corner of the desert. BYOShovel.
[18:19:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Source / torrent? Any debian vulnerabilities? - 06Hacking Team Complains That its Leaked Zero-Days Will be Misused - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:19:43] <exec> 08└─> [transparencytoolkit.org] You wanted transparency, right?
[18:21:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03greenfruitsalad [342] (Score:1) 02Re:Do a physical --> VM of the old windows machine - 06Backups and Upgrades and VMs, Oh My! - 1120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:21:20] <exec> 08└─1. THIS!!! vmware has a physical-to-virtual conversion tool. it may convert the physical machine without having to read the unreadable sectors (imaging the disk reads everything even when there's no data on the corrupted sector) 2. i'd suggest a less boring, long term supported and more newbie frien...
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[19:13:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Doesn't look comfortable for different reasons. - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 483 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:13] <exec> 08└─Yeah, it's not like the old British trains you see in Sherlock Holmes where there is almost enough room for a coffee table in the middle, on a typical American commuter there is so little room that your knees are nearly touching. It's no surprise that people scramble for the few single all facing th...
[19:13:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03slash2phar [623] (Score:2) 02Re:Might have to face people - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:14] <exec> 08└─https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VeioVSvl1w [youtube.com]
[19:13:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Doesn't look comfortable for different reasons. - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 405 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:17] <exec> 08└─In a train, if you don't like the people who sit next to you, you can get up and find a different seat. Often I have moved to quieter parts of the train to read a book in peace. People with children or ~people on the phone~ can make your commute hell. Good luck finding a better seat if you're facing...
[19:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Is it even legal? - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:20] <exec> 08└─Make a bus-size prototype of your cabin interior, and offer a free ride plus meal to random people off the street (in a not-lawsuit-happy area), under the guise of "getting real customer feedback". Then you get into a low-speed collision and see how long it takes unprepared and shaken people to bail...
[19:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Is it even legal? - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:21] <exec> 08└─There is no reason you can't legislate comfort in the US, simply by defining it in terms of minimum standards and then enforcing them. The auto industry made the same claims about not being able to legislate safety into cars, until congress went ahead and did exactly that.
[19:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Is it even legal? - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:23] <exec> 08└─Safety has a clear cost, while comfort of someone who is merely cargo does not, as long as they don't get injured. If you forced congressmen to fly coach instead of first/charter, them they'd find a compelling argument (actually, they'd vote themselves a law mandating they fly luxury charter). Until...
[19:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Is it even legal? - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:24] <exec> 08└─So your criteria is because there is no way to sue over discomfort, absolutely anything goes? What a horribly broken foundation for the progress of civilization.
[19:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03kbahey [1147] (Score:2) 02Catheters ... - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:26] <exec> 08└─Why not move to standing-room only, with roller-coaster style restraints?
[19:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03randmcnatt [671] (Score:3, Informative) 02This one needs a SCRIPT ALERT - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:28] <exec> 08└─Here's a link that that doesn't require two dozen javascripts. [cnbc.com]
[19:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:This one needs a SCRIPT ALERT - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:29] <exec> 08└─CNBC of all outlets plays better with script blockers than WiReD. That's pretty sad.
[19:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Re:This one needs a SCRIPT ALERT - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:31] <exec> 08└─Sad, maybe, but not surprising: Nobody who is actually sufficiently interested in technology to know what NoScript is bothers to read WIRED.
[19:13:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02LEGO Movie - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:32] <exec> 08└─Anybody see LEGO movie? Don't show it to the aircraft cabin design teams! (Spoiler: Double Decker Couch.)
[19:13:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Why not stand, you ask? - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:34] <exec> 08└─Well, yes, that is being mooted: http://www.cnn.com [cnn.com] http://www.telegraph.co.uk [telegraph.co.uk]
[19:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Intercity buses - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 1138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:37] <exec> 08└─Who wants to invest in my new intercity bus service? Here's the plan: Customized buses big seats - probably somewhere around 22 to 26 inches (56 cm to 66cm) onboard wifi onboard refreshments (probably some sort of vending machine ...
[19:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03KBentley57 [645] (Score:1) 02How does the air industry even work? - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 2707 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:39] <exec> 08└─I'll admit that I have no idea how the aerospace industry works at all. Not with the prices, not with the service, not with the demand, not anything. If someone could answer any of these questions, I would be grateful. 1) It appears that there is absolutely no correlation between flight distance, fl...
[19:13:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcross [4009] (Score:2) 02Re:Saw the headline last night - 06Inside an MRI, a Non-Metallic Robot Performs Prostate Surgery - 450 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:57] <exec> 08└─Isn't the problem just ferromagnetic metals? Do bullets have iron in them? I imagine the MRI machine itself has lots of metal parts, but they're probably copper and such. I hear you on the metal-in-the-patient issue, though. I used to work in a machine shop and for that reason I never want to go int...
[19:14:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02Re:Lucky you! - 06Genomic Data Growing Faster Than Twitter and YouTube - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:21] <exec> 08└─If you're not paying for a service on the internet, chances are you are in fact the product.
[19:14:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Meaningless percentage - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:45] <exec> 08└─It really should be accessible to the public though.
[19:14:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Overly Cautious - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:52] <exec> 08└─we might just accept that everyone has mistakes and transgressions in their past
[19:15:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:The End of Lying - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:03] <exec> 08└─Ob. George Costanza: "Remember, it's not a lie if YOU believe it."
[19:15:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:This makes me sad, - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:06] <exec> 08└─Then let it be the start of good but true stories : )
[19:15:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:and the winner is, - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 554 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:25] <exec> 08└─It is unfortunate that someone has to throw themself on the grenade to enact real change in this country. But, unfortunately, that's how our legal system works (e.g. requires standing). This guy is an activist for this exact cause. Much like Rosa Parks, presumably he knew exactly what he was gett...
[19:15:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Wow - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:29] <exec> 08└─delenda est. I'm not a real Latin scholar, but Cato the Elder was, and he said "Carthago delenda est" for over a decade before it was destroyed. I was told it meant "Carthage *must* be destroyed.", so it's probably a tense that wasn't covered in a basic Latin class.
[19:15:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:You can be Barred from Invoking the 1st Amendme - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:43] <exec> 08└─Since you gave up your liberties in the name of security. Funny, I didn't notice when that constitutional amendment was ratified.
[19:16:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Re:Didn't click any of my links, did you? - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:16:28] <exec> 08└─Indeed, referring to the Germans as "Nazi bloodsuckers" is distasteful at best, but there is a point in there worth looking at. Germany has accepted write-downs on it's debts several times in the past during times of world-wide post-war economic hardship. It seems what Greece needs to get it's debts...
[19:16:35] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ikanreed [3164] 02Re:You're cheering on Communists. - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 663 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:16:35] <exec> 08└─I'd say, by and large, the worst results of super-politicized capitalism very naturally drive people into the arms of communists, if they're the only alternatives who are given any voice in the debate. If the only people saying "Hey, maybe we shouldn't destroy our middle class for the interests of e...
[19:17:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:depends how old you are - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:17:07] <exec> 08└─Good for them : )
[19:17:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:depends how old you are - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:17:11] <exec> 08└─But the kind of people who choose to live in the big city for the sake of living in the big city are the kind of people who can't stand to listen to themselves think. In other words: You don't like what I like, therefore you are dumb.
[19:17:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Are all those assertions really true? - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 709 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:17:34] <exec> 08└─Yeah, lets keep the comparisons in the same century ok? And as a kid I read encyclopedias cover to cover, and rode my bike 3 miles to a library. I lived 30 years in Alaska, had no problem being "Intellectually and culturally starved". If anything, the arrival of dial-up internet caused less cultural...
[19:17:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03KBentley57 [645] (Score:1) 02A little late to the party, but had some thoughts - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 1437 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:17:48] <exec> 08└─I was mulling over a few thoughts on this topic this morning, and I wanted some opinions. *All thoughts coming from the perspective of someone living in the middle of the USA, having an agriculture background* When we say "most of the population will live in urban areas", how long has it been, in th...
[19:17:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] 02Re:Fuck it in the Front Orifice! - 06Microsoft Makes "Significant Financial Donation" to OpenBSD Foundation - 112 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:17:58] <exec> 08└─Hey, give Microsoft a break -- they're gotta lay off 18,000 employees [soylentnews.org] to afford that donation!
[19:19:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:What fossil fuel companies knew - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 1874 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:19:46] <exec> 08└─Hell, even a stash of whiskey will be more valuable than gold. But it doesn't keep as well, it takes up more room, and the bottles are fragile. Similar arguments apply to food. Guns are another matter, of course. OTOH, there's a very large population, if the apocalypse happens over 90% will die. But...
[19:20:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Love the Doublespeak - 06Hacking Team Complains That its Leaked Zero-Days Will be Misused - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:20:10] <exec> 08└─It's WAY worse than that, a little FTFY Friday! When oppressive regimes, including Sudan, Ethiopia, and Egypt could deploy the software against any target, that was just fine.
[19:20:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:They're probably right - 06Hacking Team Complains That its Leaked Zero-Days Will be Misused - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:20:18] <exec> 08└─They're probably right, these exploits and tools are almost certainly going to be used successfully by criminals, hostile/repressive governments Yeah, we definitely wouldn't want these vulnerabilities to fall into the hands of regimes like Sudan, Ethiopia, and Egypt.
[19:20:28] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03vux984 [5045] 02Re:Terrorists, extortionists and others - 06Hacking Team Complains That its Leaked Zero-Days Will be Misused - 116 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:20:29] <exec> 08└─Terrorists, extortionists and others can deploy this technology at will if they have the technical ability to do so.
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[20:13:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Doesn't look comfortable for different reasons. - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:17] <exec> 08└─My father never called it "coach" -- he always called it "steerage". https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[20:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Doesn't look comfortable for different reasons. - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 592 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:18] <exec> 08└─It's not so much facing other passengers, but from the illustrations it seems it will be impossible to adjust the seat back. And I see no improvement in upper body arm and shoulder space. If anything it's less. Plus it looks even harder for the middle seat passengers to get out to go to the loo. Thi...
[20:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Is it even legal? - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:26] <exec> 08└─"The market will choose" is the usual line when it comes to user comfort, often followed by "you are free to pay more for comfort, or use land/water transport" Don't go mentioning that the offer side of the market got skewed by unwise mergers, restrictions on foreign competitors, take-off and landin...
[20:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Is it even legal? - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:28] <exec> 08└─Prolonged discomfort = air rage = people hurt.
[20:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:Catheters ... - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:30] <exec> 08└─And there's a $29.95 surcharge for the catheter.
[20:13:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Catheters ... - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:31] <exec> 08└─And the catheter will be your seat.
[20:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:This one needs a SCRIPT ALERT - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 467 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:35] <exec> 08└─The physical magazine is no better - It was pretty good once upon a time, before half the magazine became overt ads and the other half became product placements disguised as articles. I received a gift subscription from a friend and after a few issues just ended up throwing them in the fucking trash...
[20:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:Intercity buses - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:39] <exec> 08└─Who wants to invest in my new intercity bus service? [...] Rental car (and possibly rental bike) locations nearby or possibly on-premise
[20:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:How does the air industry even work? - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 596 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:41] <exec> 08└─What you pay for something is not what it costs. Take for example 1 large drink from Mcdonalds. Lets say they charge 1 buck. Hey not bad. But they paid about 15-20 cents for the whole thing. The rest is profit. I have found the smaller the airport the higher the prices. Even then you usually have to...
[20:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02You aren't figuring in the fuel cost of the plane. - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 596 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:42] <exec> 08└─Or the standardized maintenence costs for operating the aircraft for the same amount of time. All of that adds up rapidly, especially if your plane is always below 2/3 capacity. It is why you tend to see extremely small prop driven aircraft for the smaller commuter routes. Less maintenence costs, li...
[20:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03KBentley57 [645] (Score:1) 02Re:You aren't figuring in the fuel cost of the pla - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:45] <exec> 08└─I had mentioned fuel cost, maybe not explicitly. I guess I assumed that the fuel cost was directly proportional to the distance. It's part of why I was dismayed at the cost of longer trips, compared to those that were much shorter, yet costing much more.
[20:13:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Surface Tension... - 06Why Do Puddles Stop Spreading? Unexplained by Physics - Until Now - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:00] <exec> 08└─Physics are easy. See my plans to build a 200km-long solar-powered slingshot to get us to Mars.
[20:14:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Saw the headline last night - 06Inside an MRI, a Non-Metallic Robot Performs Prostate Surgery - 756 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:13] <exec> 08└─Bingo. Most piezoelectric ceramics [wikipedia.org] in use today have a significant amount of lead in them, so much that health and environmental precautions like Hazmat disposal and dust masks are used when working with them. I know this because piezoelectric transducers with lead in their compositi...
[20:14:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03zaxus [3455] (Score:1) 02Re:real time - 06Inside an MRI, a Non-Metallic Robot Performs Prostate Surgery - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:17] <exec> 08└─How come the surgery bot needs real time imaging? Can't it work with just a few images?
[20:14:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:real time - 06Inside an MRI, a Non-Metallic Robot Performs Prostate Surgery - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:19] <exec> 08└─The old name I remember is "teleoperator", https://en.wiktionary.org [wiktionary.org] Some marketing droid must have decided that "robotic surgery" sounded higher tech?
[20:15:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03NullPtr [3786] (Score:1) 02Re:Overly Cautious - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:15:08] <exec> 08└─What's going to happen, as more and more people are confronted with evidence of things they did when they were younger, is that there's going to be an acceptance that these things happen, and people are going to become more tolerant of them. You're going to get politicians and the like literally sa...
[20:15:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Beryllium Sphere (r) (5062) (Score:2) 02People want to be lied to - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 567 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:15:21] <exec> 08└─There's one large political discussion site with a policy of banning anyone who quotes a fact checker. Or look at the climate change issue. One talking point was about solar output. Now, the satellite measurements of actual solar output from 1978 onward are on the web available to anyone who can typ...
[20:15:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03NullPtr [3786] (Score:1) 02No. - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:15:25] <exec> 08└─It just means you're going to find more/older lies.
[20:16:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:falsely shouting "fire" in a crowded theater? - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 567 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:16:09] <exec> 08└─That was the original meaning. Such a cry in the age of highly flamable theaters would tend to create such panic that almost nobody could get out. What you were supposed to do was suggest loudly and forcefully that people should leave in a calm and orderly manner. Frightening people far from the ent...
[20:16:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''The Fed'' - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 530 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:16:27] <exec> 08└─You didn't make it clear in your comment that, despite its deceptive name, The Fed (The Federal Reserve) in -not- part of the gov't. It's a cartel of 12 private banks--with a really sweet deal: When USA.gov collects taxes, it just hands that over to those private bankers--no payment required; no int...
[20:16:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02Re:No doubt, but... - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:16:34] <exec> 08└─EU banks make risky loans to Greece for high profits. Greece can't pay. EU bails out bankers, American style. Greece only gets more loans at the expense of every day Greek retirements.
[20:17:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:depends how old you are - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 385 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:17:35] <exec> 08└─My opinion is not absolute, but a judgement of those I know personally without big-city backgrounds who later pursued big-city life. I never said anybody was dumb, on the contrary, city-life is generally fast-paced and requires a greater degree of situational awareness while allowing for plenty of o...
[20:18:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03dingus [5224] (Score:1) 02fun fact - 06By 2050 Around 75% of All the World's Population Will be Urban. Is This a Good Thing? - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:18:13] <exec> 08└─In Sumer it's estimated that 89% of the population was urban.
[20:21:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Why can't we sue these guys out of existence?!? - 06Hacking Team Complains That its Leaked Zero-Days Will be Misused - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:21:08] <exec> 08└─Seriously, they're not the MPhIAA, RIcoAA, etc, and have no legal protection, so why can't they be sued by their victims?
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[21:13:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03NullPtr [3786] (Score:1) 02Are we surprised? Not necessarily. - 06UK Registrar NOMINET Uses the Force and Gives star-wars.co.uk to Disney - 395 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:04] <exec> 08└─You're either surprised or not. You can't not know; you can't speculate as to your potential emotion when an event which might provoke an emotion has already occurred. Why do people feel the need to talk nonsense when they're being asked questions on record? It's like when police are asked if they'r...
[21:13:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Are we surprised? Not necessarily. - 06UK Registrar NOMINET Uses the Force and Gives star-wars.co.uk to Disney - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:05] <exec> 08└─Why use one word to say something plainly when you could further expound through the heavy overutilization of utterly unnecessary but not entirely incorrect filler for no reason beyond putting forth and perpetuating the generally pointless illusion that the more verbose language one speaks with, usu...
[21:13:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02crickets - 06NASA Announces First Commercial Crew Astronauts - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:13] <exec> 08└─Who will kill an astronaut first starting in 2017: SpaceX or Boeing?
[21:13:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:crickets - 06NASA Announces First Commercial Crew Astronauts - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:15] <exec> 08└─Considering the odds, I was gonna say GM or Toyota. But then again Honda has a lot wider portfolio of vehicles.
[21:13:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 022017 really means 2025... - 06NASA Announces First Commercial Crew Astronauts - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:17] <exec> 08└─Possibly. Lets hope they don't retire before the first flight.
[21:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Space Mercenaries! - 06NASA Announces First Commercial Crew Astronauts - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:18] <exec> 08└─So these will be "astronauts" the same way employees of Blackwater Xe Academi Eric Prince are soldiers?
[21:13:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Doesn't look comfortable for different reasons. - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:34] <exec> 08└─Seats shouldn't recline, as it is that space you get by reclining comes from the person behind you. The people in the front row benefit and the people in the back row can't do anything about it.
[21:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Is it even legal? - The Market will choose? - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 1248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:42] <exec> 08└─Except with exactly TWO manufacturers, and it seems all the airlines are colluding to keep prices high and planes full there is no market. Hence my mention of the DOJ investigation, and regulatory capture above. I doubt these new seats will appear on US planes anytime soon, because people will bitch...
[21:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Catheters ... - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:47] <exec> 08└─Don't order the apple juice.
[21:13:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:You aren't figuring in the fuel cost of the pla - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:58] <exec> 08└─I had mentioned fuel cost, maybe not explicitly. [...] For reference, I can drive the 500 mile trip for about ~ $150 in fuel
[21:13:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03KBentley57 [645] (Score:1) 02Re:You aren't figuring in the fuel cost of the pla - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:59] <exec> 08└─You're correct. I should have said that was $150 for the round trip. Sorry about that. It's even better now that the fuel prices have gone down. It's $2.50/ USGallon here at the moment, so the round trip price is ~ $100.00
[21:14:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You aren't figuring in the fuel cost of the pla - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:01] <exec> 08└─A 737 gets about 90 mpg per seat.
[21:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03KBentley57 [645] (Score:1) 02Re:You aren't figuring in the fuel cost of the pla - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:03] <exec> 08└─I've seen that number too. I don't disagree that it's probably better for the environment, but when the same trip costs X vs 5X, which one would you choose?
[21:14:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I always thought... - 06Why Do Puddles Stop Spreading? Unexplained by Physics - Until Now - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:18] <exec> 08└─Good point, after I made the post I thought about how complicated the velocity of water molecules in a fluid must be when interacting with gravity and surface tension and that the atomic scale behavior of gravity is not exactly something we teach in primary school ;p
[21:14:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I always thought... - 06Why Do Puddles Stop Spreading? Unexplained by Physics - Until Now - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:20] <exec> 08└─Surface tension is due to hydrogen bonds.
[21:14:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:I always thought... - 06Why Do Puddles Stop Spreading? Unexplained by Physics - Until Now - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:21] <exec> 08└─Surface tension is due to hydrogen bonds.
[21:14:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:The real reason - 06Why Do Puddles Stop Spreading? Unexplained by Physics - Until Now - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:23] <exec> 08└─The puddle stopped expanding because the poodle finished piddling on the floor.
[21:14:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Another solution in search of a problem - 06Why Do Puddles Stop Spreading? Unexplained by Physics - Until Now - 890 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:26] <exec> 08└─"... figuring out how much oil is needed to keep a gear train from running dry, or how much drilling "mud" is needed to keep an oil rig working smoothly." These are things mechanics and engineers and drilling roughnecks figured out a century ago. "Many more complex flows of fluids also come down to...
[21:16:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Stupid Guy, Stupid Judge, Stupid Jury - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:16:27] <exec> 08└─https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUyl61wryy4 [youtube.com]
[21:16:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bradley13 [3053] 02No doubt, but... - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 1242 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:16:46] <exec> 08└─There's no doubt at all that the bailouts were primarily intended to aid the European banking system, rather than Greece. Really, I don't know of anyone claiming otherwise. However, this is completely separate from his austerity point. Yes, austerity has hurt a lot of individuals. However, as a coun...
[21:17:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:There have been challenges here... - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 2786 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:17:25] <exec> 08└─Ok I will bite. https://www.reddit.com [reddit.com] I personally went from 180k in debt to about 3x that in cash/stocks. Know how I did it? Financial discipline. It is amazing walking into a steak house and saying I want the 30 dollar steak because it tastes good. Not getting...
[21:20:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Not Another [FillInTheBlank]gate - 06Climategate: the Shoe is on the Other Foot - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:20:21] <exec> 08└─And this is an example of a complete bullshit true believer. . . .The actual allegations: falsification, were complete and utter bullshit and you're a goddamn liar. User khallow is goddamn liar.
[21:21:15] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03FatPhil [863] 02Re:Source / torrent? Any debian vulnerabilities? - 06Hacking Team Complains That its Leaked Zero-Days Will be Misused - 102 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:21:16] <exec> 08└─"Please turn JavaScript on and reload the page." To view a .txt file?!?!? Modern internet, please die.
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[22:13:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:2, Touché) 02Welp - 0621 Million Americans Associated With Security Clearances Compromised - 561 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:05] <exec> 08└─They got your sexual kinks and orientation, credit history, past drug use, marriage history, they know about your illegitimate babies, they know who your friends and family are, they know your nationality and education. Expect to be contacted shortly by Friendly Roger Chang who'd like to have a few...
[22:13:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Spook brat [775] (Score:3, Interesting) 02In a way, I'm relieved... - 0621 Million Americans Associated With Security Clearances Compromised - 630 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:06] <exec> 08└─This could be worse. If the responsible party is a Government Agency, and the intended use of the information is traditional espionage, then it's less likely that the personal finances of the affected individuals will be ruined. If it were a civilian hacker group doing it, the motive would probably...
[22:13:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:In a way, I'm relieved... - 0621 Million Americans Associated With Security Clearances Compromised - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:09] <exec> 08└─>>it's less likely that the personal finances of the affected individuals will be ruined. OTOH, it could be that 21.5 million Chinese government workers now have a second income.
[22:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:2017 really means 2025... - 06NASA Announces First Commercial Crew Astronauts - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:27] <exec> 08└─Lets hope they don't retire before the first flight.
[22:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Space Mercenaries! - 06NASA Announces First Commercial Crew Astronauts - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:29] <exec> 08└─Nope, they will be doing NASA missions in private spacecraft.
[22:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Space Mercenaries! - 06NASA Announces First Commercial Crew Astronauts - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:31] <exec> 08└─love the closing tag failure propagating through all the comments. and the footer. NCommander, we need a bit of input sanitizing :)
[22:13:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Space Mercenaries! - 06NASA Announces First Commercial Crew Astronauts - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:32] <exec> 08└─I turned on the bat signal
[22:13:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Space Mercenaries! - 06NASA Announces First Commercial Crew Astronauts - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:34] <exec> 08└─Most tags are sanitized. No idea why the strike one isn't but it'll be taken care of shortly. Until then, well, I know better than to ask you lot not to exploit it but please don't anyway.
[22:13:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Doesn't look comfortable for different reasons. - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:51] <exec> 08└─Nice bit of sarcasm there. For a moment there you actually had me thinking you might be an airline cabin designer. But we all know that over the last couple of years the airlines have saved billions on reduced fuel costs, but have they reduced fares? Or added flights? Or looked to make passengers mo...
[22:14:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This one needs a SCRIPT ALERT - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:09] <exec> 08└─Not rendering properly is one thing, but not showing anything is another. For example, http://www.pcmag.com [pcmag.com] obviously loads all the page info and adds scroll bars, but with scripts disabled, it is just one solid white page. I used to check them daily, but now, eh.
[22:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Intercity buses - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 537 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:14] <exec> 08└─I don't know about your full list, but Greyhound has new buses now that do have outlets, onboard wifi, and movies. Bus stations in many American cities are not in savory places, but they are centrally located. Usually that means they're connected to local mass transit. Riding a bus cross-country suc...
[22:14:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Intercity buses - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 511 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:16] <exec> 08└─I can't speak for the full-service rental car kinda thing, but much of what you can find on your list can be found on trains. And as an added bonus, train stations tend to be in the middle of cities rather than out in the boonies, so if where you are going is downtown you're often within a short wal...
[22:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03eharvill [5583] (Score:1) 02Re:How does the air industry even work? - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:24] <exec> 08└─Check out this article regarding some of the shenanigans the airline industry are using. They tried to sue some kid who figured out how to beat them at their own game. http://money.cnn.com [cnn.com]
[22:14:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03N3Roaster [3860] (Score:2) 02Re:How does the air industry even work? - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 972 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:26] <exec> 08└─To answer a part of 2, hardly anybody pays for those first class seats. Quality of that class varies widely but the pricing is ridiculous. If the airline is lucky maybe one person goes for it. Instead, it's all free upgrades for people who fly a lot on that airline. In coach, a lot of planes these d...
[22:14:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:How does the air industry even work? - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:28] <exec> 08└─How can a flight cross country be had for a fraction of what would be a 3 hour flight tops?
[22:14:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Informative) 02It reminds me of this image - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:30] <exec> 08└─Reminded me a little of this [tripod.com].
[22:16:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''Slick Willie was a decent president'' - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 428 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:16:08] <exec> 08└─...if you like NAFTA and exported jobs and a weakened economy and the increased influence of the FIRE sector. [wikipedia.org] Perot's single-issue campaign had the right agenda for its time. I judge presidents by how well I have prospered under them. Must be nice to be you. Too bad about all those U...
[22:17:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No doubt, but... - 06A Different Perspective About the Greek Crisis - 953 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:17:32] <exec> 08└─Sure, in the end it's all just a few numbers, which may not mean much after all is said and done. But in the meantime, those numbers right now still do have meaning, because we humans give them meaning. Try telling the bank that you won't be paying your mortgage because "it's just a number". I bet t...
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[23:13:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03jummama [3969] (Score:1) 02Not anywhere near April even! - 06Ellen Pao Resigns as CEO of Reddit - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:13:07] <exec> 08└─She was originally appointed as an interim CEO, and has since held on with an iron fist, completely out of touch with the user base, and terminating key people with no transition plan. Bravo.
[23:13:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Pedo enablers - 06Ellen Pao Resigns as CEO of Reddit - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:13:08] <exec> 08└─Stop giving them airtime. What is this? The Catholic church?
[23:13:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Re:Pedo enablers - 06Ellen Pao Resigns as CEO of Reddit - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:13:10] <exec> 08└─They're not the pedo enablers, they're the Social Justice League, including such super heroes as Fatman, She-Hulk (cause she's the only one strong enough to bend genders), and Aquaman (don't need to change this one because he's already pretty gay).
[23:13:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Hurray - 06Ellen Pao Resigns as CEO of Reddit - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:13:12] <exec> 08└─I didn't think we'd see her go this soon. Nice start to the weekend, but reddit is still deeply flawed, and management still thinks ever more meddling is necessary to make the site profitable. I'm much happier with Voat [voat.co].
[23:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:In a way, I'm relieved... - 0621 Million Americans Associated With Security Clearances Compromised - 2402 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:22] <exec> 08└─I remember filling that thing out well -- that was back when anybody and their dog could get a SECRET instantly as long as they were only suspected of that out-of-state small-town murder and weren't (yet) on the FBI most wanted list. Being gay was also an instant-disqualifier back then, and accordin...
[23:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02An unusually large number - 0621 Million Americans Associated With Security Clearances Compromised - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:13:24] <exec> 08└─If my math is correct, this would mean that approximately 1 out of every 15 Americans either has a security clearance or is closely associated with somebody who does. That's a huge amount of resources to put towards a national security state, a lot more than we put towards, say, growing food.
[23:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03tynin [2013] (Score:2) 02Re:An unusually large number - 0621 Million Americans Associated With Security Clearances Compromised - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:26] <exec> 08└─Former employees could mean 100+ years of people who have had a security clearance, not just those actively in a position to need it.
[23:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:An unusually large number - 0621 Million Americans Associated With Security Clearances Compromised - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:27] <exec> 08└─Shush you. He gets to feed his "national security state" narrative and that makes him feel "insightful."
[23:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:An unusually large number - 0621 Million Americans Associated With Security Clearances Compromised - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:29] <exec> 08└─The overclassification of information is a big fucking problem nowadays. And unless you're a Snowden or breaking the rules on the down-low, the increase in pay and job security are powerful motivators in being a good little bootlicker, especially if you have a family.
[23:14:00] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03pendorbound [2688] 02Re:Doesn't look comfortable for different reasons. - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 574 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:01] <exec> 08└─I don't mind facing other people on trains, but when your legs are overlapped with them, maybe not so much. You're not looking at them from across the (already narrow) space between the seats. You're looking at them from less than the length of your own thighs. We're talking breath smelling, nose ha...
[23:14:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How does the air industry even work? - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:44] <exec> 08└─You will be diaspointed if you drive to Canada to take a plane, we have some TSA equivalent for most destination and the price are way higher, also we share information with the USA... A lot of Canadian drive to regional American airport to fly, Plattsburgh airport come to my mind.
[23:14:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03pinchy [777] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Bunk beds - 06Just in Case You Thought Flying Coach Was Already Like Being in a Cattle Car - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:14:46] <exec> 08└─I would much rather just lay horizontal the entire trip. My back starts hurting after a few hours unless I bring something for lumbar support. I imagine you could actually pack a lot more people stacked horizontally then in a sitting position.
[23:15:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score:2) 02Re:Surface Tension... - 06Why Do Puddles Stop Spreading? Unexplained by Physics - Until Now - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:15:09] <exec> 08└─It needs to be a lot longer or the G forces would kill you . Assuming you have some on-board delta-V (you are going to need it) then your exit speed needs to be at least 15 km/s. That would require an acceleration of approx 560 m/s², or near enough to 60 G.
[23:15:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Surface Tension... - 06Why Do Puddles Stop Spreading? Unexplained by Physics - Until Now - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:15:10] <exec> 08└─While I made the mistake of typing slingshot when i was thinking sling, you seem to have missed the k in 200km...
[23:15:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score:2) 02Re:Surface Tension... - 06Why Do Puddles Stop Spreading? Unexplained by Physics - Until Now - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:15:12] <exec> 08└─No I didn't. Unless the m in 200km refers to miles not metres. Do the math. And if you meant a rotational sling with a radius of 200km, the the centripetal force just before release would be 115 G. Seems high doesn't it. But you are doing more than twice orbital velocity in a circle less than one fo...
[23:15:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score:2) 02Re:real time - 06Inside an MRI, a Non-Metallic Robot Performs Prostate Surgery - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:15:30] <exec> 08└─I can remember when the term was "waldo". But the "where is he?" books have probably killed that.
[23:16:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Meaningless percentage - 06Technology and the End of Lying - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:16:17] <exec> 08└─Public bool isLying(Politician p) { If (lips.moving) return true; Else return true; }
[23:17:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Wow - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:17:06] <exec> 08└─blow away the illusion of authority, especially moral authority, of the police and courts and politicians and bankers and CEOs.
[23:17:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fire in a crowded theater - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:17:12] <exec> 08└─"Shouting out on the Courthouse grounds that the Court and judges are "corrupt" during business hours while people are entering the Courthouse is entirely inappropriate and disruptive and is analogous to falsely shouting "fire" in a crowded theater..."
[23:17:15] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Freeman [732] 02Stupid Guy, Stupid Judge, Stupid Jury - 06PINAC Correspondent Found Guilty of Trespassing on Public Road - 471 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:17:16] <exec> 08└─Seems like a regular Circus. Some Clown going around doing stupid stuff, but clearly not illegal. Some Judge taking the law and making a pretzel out of it as far as I can tell, because he felt like it. Really, the sad part is the Jury Not Throwing the stupid allegations into a toilet bowl and flushi...
[23:23:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:There are plenty of non-systemd Linux distribut - 06Backups and Upgrades and VMs, Oh My! - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:23:24] <exec> 08└─It was not designed for Joe user, and renders no benefits to joe user. It is not significantly faster, not significantly more secure, not smaller, and not significantly easier to use. Its just different
[23:23:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:There are plenty of non-systemd Linux distribut - 06Backups and Upgrades and VMs, Oh My! - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:23:26] <exec> 08└─>when it breaks, debugging and fixing the issue takes on nightmare proportions Sounds like you're just unfamiliar with systemd vs SysV. Had systemd come first, you would probably be arguing the converse. A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the ligh...
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