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[00:41:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Moggy [5383] (Score:1) 02So just a continuation of the Big Bang - 06New Model of Cosmic Stickiness Favors 'Big Rip' Demise of Universe - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:41:38] <exec> 08└─and corresponding expansion then? Instead of slowing down expansion keeps going and everything eventually falls apart. All we need is some Cosmic seamstresses to darn the holes as they appear, the Universe will slowly start to shrink as the holes get patched up and we'll wind up with a 'Gnab Gib'
[00:41:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03NoMaster [3543] (Score:2) 02Re:Not likely - 06Facebook's Zuckerberg Wants to Figure Out Social Equation - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:41:55] <exec> 08└─So what you're saying is that we need to believe that Zuck is Seldon to ensure he never becomes Seldon while keeping him thinking that he is Seldon? My brain hurts...
[00:42:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02da-dah-dah-dah-da-da - 06Facebook's Zuckerberg Wants to Figure Out Social Equation - 705 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:42:03] <exec> 08└─He must be terminated. Clearly this is how Skynet happens after the events of Terminator 2. No Turks or John Henrys needed. I'm putting out an APB to all ginger T-2001s. Also not sure if I should be watching Terminator Genisys right now or not. All they've got on torrent are out of focus camrips in...
[00:42:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Social Equation and Psychohistory - 06Facebook's Zuckerberg Wants to Figure Out Social Equation - 1174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:42:05] <exec> 08└─I think Isaac Asimov had the right idea with the "social equations" of psychohistory. The way I understand the concept from reading the Foundation novels was that it is supposed to be a statistical technique. Just as statistical mechanics cannot predict the behaviour of an individual atom or molecul...
[00:42:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilPapa [2366] (Score:2) 02Re:So... Cuba and child mortality - 06Cuba Cuts Mother-to-Child HIV Transmissions to 2% - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:42:24] <exec> 08└─I lost my original link, but I can find other [sweetness-light.com] sources [cubaverdad.net] making similar claims pretty easily.
[00:42:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03GDX [1950] (Score:1) 02Re:So... Cuba and child mortality - 06Cuba Cuts Mother-to-Child HIV Transmissions to 2% - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:42:25] <exec> 08└─It's better to only half believe it. I'm sure that the statics are fudged but not that as much as some want it to appear, it easier to fudge a little with a statistics without anyone noticing that to really alter it and if the statistics where really altered I'm sure that the information indicating...
[00:47:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:more than color - 06When Image Recognition Goes Horribly Wrong - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:47:51] <exec> 08└─> And, are you honestly ignorant of the fact that people resemble monkeys and apes? Which has absolutely nothing to do with why the comparison is 'offensive.'
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[01:42:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Keep dreaming - 06Facebook's Zuckerberg Wants to Figure Out Social Equation - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:42:01] <exec> 08└─He's an arrogant child and self-styled modern day alchemist.
[01:42:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:2) 02Re:So... Cuba and child mortality - 06Cuba Cuts Mother-to-Child HIV Transmissions to 2% - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:42:15] <exec> 08└─And now you in turn have become the victim of imbecile moderators.
[01:42:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:180 more days of bulk collection - 06Secret US court allows resumption of bulk phone metadata spying. - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:42:51] <exec> 08└─Instead of the NSA violating the Constitution by collecting the data itself, for its own purposes, all it needs to is ask the corporations, that are now required to collect the data, to turn over the data when properly asked in the context of due process
[01:42:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:180 more days of bulk collection - 06Secret US court allows resumption of bulk phone metadata spying. - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:42:52] <exec> 08└─Instead of the NSA violating the Constitution by collecting the data itself, for its own purposes, all it needs to is ask the corporations to do so, that are now required to collect the data, to turn over the data when properly asked in the context of due process
[01:42:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:2) 02Re:Naked tyranny - 06Secret US court allows resumption of bulk phone metadata spying. - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:42:58] <exec> 08└─In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the ac...
[01:42:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:2) 02Re:Naked tyranny - 06Secret US court allows resumption of bulk phone metadata spying. - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:00] <exec> 08└─October 4, 2013: Rep. Poe on FISA Courts as "The 21st Century Star Chamber" [fas.org] Either the Constitution has a massive hole in it, or the Supreme Court is not doing its fucking job (Ha! big revelation).
[01:43:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Naked tyranny - 06Secret US court allows resumption of bulk phone metadata spying. - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:01] <exec> 08└─War time exigencies have long since passed
[01:43:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Spy vs Spy - 06Secret US court allows resumption of bulk phone metadata spying. - 669 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:43:03] <exec> 08└─Excellent! Now to call my local congress critter and have the secretary on the other end record a message recorded by any of the various numbers stations. [wikipedia.org] Be sure to have the message read it back, to ensure it's recorded. When I have trouble sleeping I oft listen to the droning on of...
[01:43:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02And predictably, right on schedule, here it is.... - 06Secret US court allows resumption of bulk phone metadata spying. - 593 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:43:04] <exec> 08└─They need to cover the negative press. So just like clockwork, here it comes U.S. boosting security measures ahead of July 4th [cnn.com] One interview on a news program had New York Representative King [foxnews.com] saying: King told Megyn Kelly that behind the scenes, law enforcement agencies that...
[01:43:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Re:DRM for data? - 06MIT’s Bitcoin-Inspired ‘Enigma’ lets Computers Mine Encrypted Data - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:48] <exec> 08└─Or, we could use homeopathic encryption!
[01:44:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Pot meet kettle! - 06NOAA Study on 4th of July Fireworks and Spikes in Air Pollution - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:44:35] <exec> 08└─Dear NOAA, please remember this the next time you want a satellite launched into orbit on a rocket that doesn't use Hydrogen for fuel. The solids on a Delta II have 28,000 lbs. of propellant each and there can be anywhere from 3 to 9 motors per mission. Don't have the specs for Atlas V or Delta IV s...
[01:46:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:I suggest another workaround - 06Windows 10 to Share WiFi Key With Contacts - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:46:03] <exec> 08└─Don't use Windows anything to do anything...
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[02:41:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Yes, and Yes. - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 689 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:41:37] <exec> 08└─Greece would probably be better off OUT of the EU, and the EU would probably better with Greece OUT. Greece's large tourist trade and farming could probably sustain it quite well, as it has for centuries. Sure, their economy will take a hit, and people will probably have to get off their butts and a...
[02:41:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03caffeine [249] (Score:1) 02Re:Yes, and Yes. - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:41:38] <exec> 08└─Whilst I agree Greece would likely be better off out of the EU, having Greece struggling keeps the value of the Euro down and that is a big benefit to Germany & France.
[02:41:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02pay debts - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:41:40] <exec> 08└─comment
[02:41:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:So just a continuation of the Big Bang - 06New Model of Cosmic Stickiness Favors 'Big Rip' Demise of Universe - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:41:49] <exec> 08└─So just a continuation of the Big Bang and corresponding expansion then?
[02:42:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Not likely - 06Facebook's Zuckerberg Wants to Figure Out Social Equation - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:42:06] <exec> 08└─No, you only need believe that Zuck is an egotistacal prick who wants to translate his wealth into power over the masses. And, he's going about it all wrong.
[02:42:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03GoonDu [2623] (Score:2) 02Re:7.24*10^9 - 06Facebook's Zuckerberg Wants to Figure Out Social Equation - 567 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:42:11] <exec> 08└─>We all process stimuli and inputs differently. I agree to that to a certain extent, we all use the same wetware after all, just configured differently so there is a lot of similarities between us. Therefore, we can probably come out with a model that can predict to a certain degree on how we behave...
[02:42:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Rosebud - 06Facebook's Zuckerberg Wants to Figure Out Social Equation - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:42:19] <exec> 08└─Is this what drives Zuckerberg? Still trying to figure out how the 'in' crowd works?
[02:42:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:So... Cuba and child mortality - 06Cuba Cuts Mother-to-Child HIV Transmissions to 2% - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:42:31] <exec> 08└─But how would that work in practice,
[02:42:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:So... Cuba and child mortality - 06Cuba Cuts Mother-to-Child HIV Transmissions to 2% - 659 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:42:39] <exec> 08└─You might also arrive at the conclusion that WHO is generally run by third world administrators, has historically been more than a little leftist, and it owes a big debt to Cuba for their (admirable) help in the Ebola zone. Or you can take it at face value, and realize that they are getting the same...
[02:43:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Naked tyranny - 06Secret US court allows resumption of bulk phone metadata spying. - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:43:15] <exec> 08└─Not even vaguely pertinent until some one is brought to trial. The quote talks about trials, not the issuance of warrants. And by that time, there will be a great deal of parallel construction, and much later (and open) warrants. Meanwhile the mass surveillance is authorized by the secret court on t...
[02:43:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Spy vs Spy - 06Secret US court allows resumption of bulk phone metadata spying. - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:43:19] <exec> 08└─Sky-king Sky-king, do not answer....
[02:46:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:2) 02Re:I suggest another workaround - 06Windows 10 to Share WiFi Key With Contacts - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:46:21] <exec> 08└─And ... we have a winner.
[02:48:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:kids are brutally honest - 06When Image Recognition Goes Horribly Wrong - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:48:41] <exec> 08└─> I have yet to see a racist program, unless it was intentional. That is circular reasoning - software can't be racist because, by your definition, it is ignorant so therefore you've never seen an unintentionally racist program. And yet here we have an example of one.
[02:48:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:kids are brutally honest - 06When Image Recognition Goes Horribly Wrong - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:48:42] <exec> 08└─> We learn to suppress such thoughts as we grow older. We learn there are things you can't say or even think. Maybe you learned that, but you learned the wrong lesson. What normal people learn is that being needlessly insulting is a shitty way to live your life.
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[03:41:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02KISS from a simple girl.. so lovely ;-) - 06Amazon Announces "s2n," a New Open Source TLS Implementation - 485 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:41:39] <exec> 08└─Somehow I like it. It will break compatibility but also introduce KISS.. Keep It Simple Stupid. The question is if it will be complete enough to do end-to-end encryption. Then there's also the use case of clear text but with authenticated data for use with cache mechanisms, this may be missing? Let'...
[03:41:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02Yes, and Yes. - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 689 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:41:47] <exec> 08└─Greece would probably be better off OUT of the EU, and the EU would probably better with Greece OUT. Greece's large tourist trade and farming could probably sustain it quite well, as it has for centuries. Sure, their economy will take a hit, and people will probably have to get off their butts and a...
[03:41:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes, and Yes. - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 653 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:41:50] <exec> 08└─The unemployment rate in Greece is about 25% and government expenditures are about 20% of the Greek economy (which is about the same as Germany and the UK mind you) so if the government comes apart at the seems the unemployment rate is going to spike even higher. So yeah having a large chunk of your...
[03:41:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yes, and Yes. - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 565 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:41:51] <exec> 08└─Your name matches your words today. Concluding that mass starvation will happen due to profit motive within close proximity is just silly. For sake of argument I will assume the rest up to that point. If anything the crime rate will go up. Many people will do almost anything to avoid dying. Most peo...
[03:41:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:pay debts - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:41:53] <exec> 08└─Don't tell me what to do.
[03:41:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:pay debts - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:41:55] <exec> 08└─pay debts tho
[03:41:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Fuck Greece! - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:41:57] <exec> 08└─Stop having sex with little boys and pay your debts you dirty Greeks!
[03:41:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Bargaining Tactic - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:41:58] <exec> 08└─The guy pulled a stunt, one you would suspect they might - "they" being those from the Middle East/East Med. On the other hand, the Greeks don't trust him. Because they know their government is corrupt. Eurozone, she's fucked either way.
[03:41:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02The way life works - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:42:00] <exec> 08└─Those who have it easy, the best weather, dependable tourist revenue, don't work as hard and frequently aren't as successful as their less-advantaged peers. There's a strong sense of entitlement that's tough to overcome.
[03:42:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:The way life works - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:42:01] <exec> 08└─Plus they like to rape little boys.
[03:42:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:The way life works - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:42:03] <exec> 08└─Looks like you struck a nerve in some boy-humping Greek.
[03:42:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score:2) 02Creditors - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:42:05] <exec> 08└─Do if Greece goes bankrupt do they send debt collectors to reposes its stuff?
[03:42:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02arxiv - 06New Model of Cosmic Stickiness Favors 'Big Rip' Demise of Universe - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:42:10] <exec> 08└─arxiv preprint [arxiv.org]
[03:42:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:7.24*10^9 - 06Facebook's Zuckerberg Wants to Figure Out Social Equation - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:42:33] <exec> 08└─A person can be unpredictable. People are predictable.
[03:43:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Naked tyranny - 06Secret US court allows resumption of bulk phone metadata spying. - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:43:39] <exec> 08└─This is why the U.S. has been in a state of war (usually undeclared) almost continuously since the late 1800's.
[03:43:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:1) 02...and then he was shot. - 06Secret US court allows resumption of bulk phone metadata spying. - 1133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:43:44] <exec> 08└─"The very word “secrecy” is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outwei...
[03:47:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03TheRaven [270] 02Re:yeah, why indeed - 06Why Apple Should Kill Off the Mac - 532 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:47:16] <exec> 08└─Add to that: the core OS is shared between OS X, iOS and even the watch to a surprising degree. The cost of developing the desktop version is not very large and, importantly, means that they have a platform where they encounter different issues to mobile (e.g. 64-bit switch - they got to do some nea...
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[04:42:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:KISS from a simple girl.. so lovely ;-) - 06Amazon Announces "s2n," a New Open Source TLS Implementation - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:42:04] <exec> 08└─If we only could have TLS based on DNSSEC
[04:42:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:KISS from a simple girl.. so lovely ;-) - 06Amazon Announces "s2n," a New Open Source TLS Implementation - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:42:05] <exec> 08└─You do have to wonder how much of those 70,000 lines are handling corner cases that have been shoveled into OpenSSL that are not needed by most applications. I'm tempted to break out a verse from the Mikado and suggest that for the most part "They never would be missed".
[04:42:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes, and Yes. - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:42:15] <exec> 08└─Apparently not a big enough advantage.
[04:42:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes, and Yes. - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 669 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:42:18] <exec> 08└─There's historical precedent in terms of past economic crises: https://en.wikipedia.org(Ireland)#Irish_food_exports_during_Famine [wikipedia.org] I wouldn't call it profit motive per se. The folks that would do the exporting would be desperately trying not to lose money. Mass riot...
[04:42:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes, and Yes. - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 595 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:42:20] <exec> 08└─You would have to assume the Greeks are stupid enough to export food in the face of mass starvation. I seriously doubt that just because they fell into a debt trap laid by the EU, you can assume that level of heartless-bastard-ism. Also, once they swear off those crushing debt payments they may mudd...
[04:42:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes, and Yes. - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 1293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:42:21] <exec> 08└─An export ban would make sense (I had left that part out), but the end game seems like it would need to require going through 10-20 years of closing off from the rest of the world and rebalancing to be more self-sufficient. The measures that might need to be taken just to enforce the policies and ma...
[04:42:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes, and Yes. - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:42:23] <exec> 08└─You would have to assume the Greeks are stupid enough to export food in the face of mass starvation.
[04:42:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geotti [1146] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes, and Yes. - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:42:25] <exec> 08└─Yes, and Yes.
[04:42:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Creditors - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:42:33] <exec> 08└─If Greece defaults, those creditors are TSOL. So they have a big incentive to work something out, but right now they are still playing brinkmanship. They may seize an aircraft or a cruise ship or two when they enter foreign countries. But the foreign financed hotels and resorts in Greece are worth a...
[04:42:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Personally, I blame systemd - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:42:35] <exec> 08└─This is what happens when you use systemd. First, your economy fails. Hard. Then you fail to repay moneys owed to your friendly neighbors. Or just uninstall systemd-grexit.
[04:42:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Only the start - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 2169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:42:37] <exec> 08└─This is only the start, there will be a last minute deal.... that won't hold and another after that until the pain becomes unbearable for everyone involved. Meanwhile the rest of the PIIGS gets closer to the same problem with the rest of the world lined up behind them. Everybody has pretty much the...
[04:42:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] 02Re:So just a continuation of the Big Bang - 06New Model of Cosmic Stickiness Favors 'Big Rip' Demise of Universe - 72 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:42:44] <exec> 08└─So just a continuation of the Big Bang and corresponding expansion then?
[04:42:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:So just a continuation of the Big Bang - 06New Model of Cosmic Stickiness Favors 'Big Rip' Demise of Universe - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:42:46] <exec> 08└─"we and all the other "visible" matter make up about 10% of the universe." Interesting...I just wonder how much 10% of infinity is?
[04:42:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:So just a continuation of the Big Bang - 06New Model of Cosmic Stickiness Favors 'Big Rip' Demise of Universe - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:42:48] <exec> 08└─"In the beginning there was infinite nothingness. It was highly improbable that nothing would explode into infinite somethings, so it did just that almost immediately."
[04:42:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Cosmology - 06New Model of Cosmic Stickiness Favors 'Big Rip' Demise of Universe - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:42:49] <exec> 08└─Let's be frank. Cosmology today isn't much different from astrology. As it is, it's for amusement and not much else.
[04:42:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Phys.org - 06New Model of Cosmic Stickiness Favors 'Big Rip' Demise of Universe - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:42:51] <exec> 08└─Phys.org pieces seem dubious as often as not, not all that much better than wired.com garbage.
[04:43:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03dcollins [1168] (Score:2) 02Wishful Thinking - 06Facebook's Zuckerberg Wants to Figure Out Social Equation - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:43:21] <exec> 08└─"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." - Upton Sinclair
[04:45:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:DRM for data? - 06MIT’s Bitcoin-Inspired ‘Enigma’ lets Computers Mine Encrypted Data - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:45:11] <exec> 08└─But, you know, I am a bit uneasy with relying on the placebo effect for data security. Maybe we could come up with something like eTrust, or Windows share your wireless password with everyone including Michael David Crawford Galaxy. I dunno.
[04:49:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Beryllium Sphere (r) (5062) (Score:2) 02I don't imagine malice for an instant - 06When Image Recognition Goes Horribly Wrong - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:49:28] <exec> 08└─Better testing might have caught this before it stepped on someone's toes, so an accusation of neglect might fly.
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[05:41:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02MAC addresses perhaps not that reliable? - 06Kenya to Require Users of Wi-Fi to Register With Government - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:41:40] <exec> 08└─WiFi MAC addresses is never faked in Kenya? ;-) Some countries aren't just technology backwaters. They make sure everybody knows it too..
[05:41:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:KISS from a simple girl.. so lovely ;-) - 06Amazon Announces "s2n," a New Open Source TLS Implementation - 412 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:41:51] <exec> 08└─It does sound like it will eventually be a great addition. But, I suspect that this lean implementation is probably ignoring things like side channel attack mitigation and such. Crypto code seems to have a lot of crufty looking stuff intentionally added to do things like take a constant amount of ti...
[05:41:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:KISS from a simple girl.. so lovely ;-) - 06Amazon Announces "s2n," a New Open Source TLS Implementation - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:41:52] <exec> 08└─Just great. They just release a new code base, and the first thing they get is feature creep.
[05:42:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yes, and Yes. - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 322 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:42:09] <exec> 08└─Risk has been neutralized. All the debt is in the hands of the boys in big pants who can afford the loss. The EU banking system will not collapse. The Greek people have lived beyond their very limited means and are now fucked. No one will starve to death. The rest of the world will take a small hit...
[05:42:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes, and Yes. - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 724 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:42:11] <exec> 08└─I doubt that the situation is quite that dire such that life boat analogies come into play. I don't know if Greece is a net exporter or importer of food, but I suspect they have trading partners who will be willing to work with them on a goods exchange basis. Further, I don't really thing that big o...
[05:42:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes, and Yes. - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:42:14] <exec> 08└─Or is the Euro better off without Greece? Or Greece without the Euro?
[05:42:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Creditors - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:42:24] <exec> 08└─The only creditors left are central banks and hedgies. They can either afford the loss or have the ability to print to overcome it. They will let the Greeks go down in a blaze of self-immolation and then they will all move on with their lives.
[05:42:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03kaszz [4211] 02Government corrupt - confidence dumped ;-) - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 1962 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:42:27] <exec> 08└─German sponsors have something to say.. [spiegel.de] Greece has introduced restrictions on capital and currency. Not something that encourage business or confidence by citizens. Some news agency also wrote that the Greece negotiators could allow to change the expenditures but not societal reforms....
[05:42:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Terrible summary - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 409 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:42:29] <exec> 08└─The Greek government held a referendum on whether to accept the deal. Germany^H^H^H the ECB told Greece to fuck off on a short extension to accommodate the referendum. Summary writer mocks the Greek government for actually serving the desires of the Greek people by asking them what they want. Contra...
[05:42:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kharnynb [5468] (Score:1) 02It's no longer about greece, really. - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 395 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:42:31] <exec> 08└─From an EU point of view, this has very little to do with greece any more, and a lot more with Italy(mostly) and Spain(less so currently). Greece could be supported and held up, it's tiny, and the debts aren't really all that big concidering the size of Europe as a whole. But we could never hold up...
[05:42:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:So just a continuation of the Big Bang - 06New Model of Cosmic Stickiness Favors 'Big Rip' Demise of Universe - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:42:42] <exec> 08└─.I just wonder how much 10% of infinity is?
[05:42:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So just a continuation of the Big Bang - 06New Model of Cosmic Stickiness Favors 'Big Rip' Demise of Universe - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:42:43] <exec> 08└─The universe doesn't seem to actually be infinite, at least as far as we can see.
[05:42:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Re:So just a continuation of the Big Bang - 06New Model of Cosmic Stickiness Favors 'Big Rip' Demise of Universe - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:42:45] <exec> 08└─You seem to have lost some considerations on entropy
[05:43:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:da-dah-dah-dah-da-da - 06Facebook's Zuckerberg Wants to Figure Out Social Equation - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:43:17] <exec> 08└─Oh god...why did I blow my mod points before I got to this gem. Well said...wish I'd written it.
[05:43:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:So... Cuba and child mortality - 06Cuba Cuts Mother-to-Child HIV Transmissions to 2% - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:43:32] <exec> 08└─And now you in turn have become the victim of imbecile moderators.
[05:43:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:So... Cuba and child mortality - 06Cuba Cuts Mother-to-Child HIV Transmissions to 2% - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:43:39] <exec> 08└─But..but...they're commies. They can't possibly have better health care than 'mericans. So they must be making up the info. Right...?
[05:43:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:So... Cuba and child mortality - 06Cuba Cuts Mother-to-Child HIV Transmissions to 2% - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:43:46] <exec> 08└─...and the drug makers make no bones about the fact that US/EU patients are being ripped off to pad profits over the reasonable prices in poor parts of the world. TFTFY
[05:43:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:In America - 06Cuba Cuts Mother-to-Child HIV Transmissions to 2% - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:43:53] <exec> 08└─No, but the Parish priest fucked your mother and your father and you. So you are the child of the parish priest your mother and you.
[05:47:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WP Useage - 06Windows 10 to Share WiFi Key With Contacts - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:47:38] <exec> 08└─A password that I cannot view, but I can freely use is pretty much just as good.
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[06:41:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:KISS from a simple girl.. so lovely ;-) - 06Amazon Announces "s2n," a New Open Source TLS Implementation - 3546 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:41:50] <exec> 08└─I've got issues with the DANE spec that even after we roll out DNSSEC, I'm not sure I'll add TLSA keys to the domain. The three largest problems involve DNSSEC validation itself, the chain of trust and how DANE ties to the certificate chain. Under "normal" DNSSEC, the chain of trust is validated fro...
[06:42:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03caffeine [249] (Score:1) 02Re:Yes, and Yes. - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:42:05] <exec> 08└─Guess we'll find out over the next couple of weeks. Will be very interesting to see how far the EU goes to keep them in, or what they will do to discredit Tsipras before the referendum.
[06:42:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02A Greek tragedy - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 1618 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:42:32] <exec> 08└─What's happening to Greece is definitely a tragedy, perhaps on par with one of Sophocles' plays. Greece should never have been permitted to enter the Euro zone in the first place, but it happened because the Greek government lied about the state of its finances. But it was, the government continued...
[06:43:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03TGV [2838] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Only a layman... - 06Facebook's Zuckerberg Wants to Figure Out Social Equation - 687 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:43:24] <exec> 08└─can think so simplistically. As a child, I looked at text in another language and thought that there must be some formula to change the letters so that they would form the same text in my native language. That's what Zuckerberg's idea sounds like, Anyone who has studied a bit of AI or cognitive psyc...
[06:43:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jiro [3176] (Score:2) 02Re:So... Cuba and child mortality - 06Cuba Cuts Mother-to-Child HIV Transmissions to 2% - 512 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:43:39] <exec> 08└─Even if it is actually true, it proves very little. Dictatorships, not being subject to the free market, can always pick one arbitrary facet of their society, spend disproportionately on it even if their overall economy is a shambles, and point to its success as evidence of the great benefits of the...
[06:43:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So... Cuba and child mortality - 06Cuba Cuts Mother-to-Child HIV Transmissions to 2% - 956 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:43:54] <exec> 08└─Your source is a right-wing Cuban exile group. Yeah, it is propaganda. Those folks claim that baby is, "the other white meat," in Cuba. Cuba's health care system from the neighborhood clinics, to their pharmaceutical industry is amazing. They are first responders in natural disasters around the glob...
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[07:42:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02premajure ejaculators REJOICE - 06As 100 Gbps Ethernet Picks Up, Google Ponders 5 Petabits Per Second - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:42:11] <exec> 08└─FINALLY! your pr0n will finish downloading BEFORE you CUM.
[07:42:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03penguinoid [5331] (Score:2) 02Proxies - 06Kenya to Require Users of Wi-Fi to Register With Government - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:42:20] <exec> 08└─Sounds like it's time for Kenyans to start routing all their traffic through proxies or TOR.
[07:42:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:KISS from a simple girl.. so lovely ;-) - 06Amazon Announces "s2n," a New Open Source TLS Implementation - 1058 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:33] <exec> 08└─Quite a lot. Some of my colleagues have a projects that's doing something similar [cam.ac.uk]: replacing libssl, not replacing libcrypto, though they're doing it in ocaml and want something that's amenable to formal proofs. If you want to try breaking it, they have a BitCoin piñata - if you can bre...
[07:43:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03zeigerpuppy [1298] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Where it ends - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:43:15] <exec> 08└─We'd all be much better off without predatory banking. Iceland played the right card, if casino banking gets you into the mess, Jail the criminals and default. The banks take the hit while your basic services and infrastructure keep running. Greece should have defaulted long ago.
[07:43:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:john nash beat you by over half a century - 06Facebook's Zuckerberg Wants to Figure Out Social Equation - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:56] <exec> 08└─You are aware that the Nash equilibrium usually involves making random choices of extremes?
[07:44:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So... Cuba and child mortality - 06Cuba Cuts Mother-to-Child HIV Transmissions to 2% - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:25] <exec> 08└─or manufactured in-country with (justifiable IMHO) disregard of any patents that might exit
[07:44:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So... Cuba and child mortality - 06Cuba Cuts Mother-to-Child HIV Transmissions to 2% - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:42] <exec> 08└─> for the recent ebola crisis, Cuba sent large numbers of doctors and other medical personnel while the US sent their military "From each according to his ability".
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[08:42:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02just what is hyperscaler? - 06As 100 Gbps Ethernet Picks Up, Google Ponders 5 Petabits Per Second - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:42:09] <exec> 08└─hyperscaler - one who makes hyperscale systems hyperscale system - a system that can scale almost indefinitely through the use of parallelism. see also: supercomputer.
[08:42:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:just what is hyperscaler? - 06As 100 Gbps Ethernet Picks Up, Google Ponders 5 Petabits Per Second - 705 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:42:10] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperscale [wikipedia.org] In computing, hyperscale is the ability of an architecture to scale appropriately as increased demand is added to the system. This typically involves the ability to seamlessly provision and add compute, memory, networking, and storage resourc...
[08:42:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02What is a hyperpower? - 06As 100 Gbps Ethernet Picks Up, Google Ponders 5 Petabits Per Second - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:42:12] <exec> 08└─hyperpower (plural hyperpowers) (international relations) An international hegemon, more powerful than a superpower What is a hegemon? From Ancient Greek ἡγεμών (hēgemṓn, “a leader, guide, commander, chief”), from ἡγέομαι (hēgéomai, “to lead”). What is a commander in...
[08:42:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Adamsjas [4507] (Score:2) 02Re:MAC addresses perhaps not that reliable? - 06Kenya to Require Users of Wi-Fi to Register With Government - 546 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:42:21] <exec> 08└─Was thinking the same thing. There are mac address change programs in the market for Android. This scheme will collect so much information that the real perpetrators (if there actually are any) will be lost in the clutter. Their forensic labs are going to exist where? Are they going to cover every r...
[08:42:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjwt [2826] (Score:1) 02wow - 06Kenya to Require Users of Wi-Fi to Register With Government - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:42:23] <exec> 08└─Strange and biased comparison, how about "Much the same way the US requires you to register to drive a car, or own a bank account"
[08:42:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:KISS from a simple girl.. so lovely ;-) - 06Amazon Announces "s2n," a New Open Source TLS Implementation - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:42:35] <exec> 08└─In addition to the problems you list, here's a good blog post covers what's wrong with DNSSEC [sockpuppet.org]. And here's the Mozilla [mozilla.org] and Google [google.com] bugs saying they won't support it. One detail is that my understanding of TLSA records is that like HPKP let you reference any...
[08:42:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes, and Yes. - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 613 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:42:55] <exec> 08└─There are more recent examples. Look at a lot of the places where Fairtrade has caught on. It becomes more profitable to grow export crops (with a minimum sale price guaranteed by Fairtrade) than to grow crops for export. The result? People who own farms become richer, people who work on farms remai...
[08:43:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Only the start - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 603 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:43:16] <exec> 08└─> As Lady Thatcher said, "The problem with socialism is sooner or later you run out of other people's money." And, like almost everything else that Thatcher said, she was full of shit. *Nothing* about socialism depends on putting yourself into *debt*. However, *capitalism* is almost entirely about g...
[08:43:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Terrible summary - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:43:19] <exec> 08└─It's not just a bad summary, it's a fucking lie. The CNN link doesn't contain the quoted material. No "Whoa", nothing being described as being "[thrown] out", no mention of an "about face". All those are loaded expressions implying bias. A bias that the actual linked-to article does not have. Bad ed...
[08:43:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:It's no longer about greece, really. - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:43:22] <exec> 08└─We've been holding up Spain for decades. Germany's basically being keeping Spain afloat since the 70s. Britain's been keeping Greece afloat the same length of time.
[08:43:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Where it ends - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 726 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:43:25] <exec> 08└─There are always two sides to a loan. If you don't take out a loan, then you are under no obligation to the lender. Even if you subscribe to the notion that Greece's previous administrations have illegally entered into the debt for their own benefit and left the population with the bill, understand...
[08:43:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Caballo Negro [1794] (Score:1) 02Re:Will Zuckerberg be a real life Hari Seldon ? - 06Facebook's Zuckerberg Wants to Figure Out Social Equation - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:43:55] <exec> 08└─Well, the whole of Seldon's team and tens of thousands of associates get banished to a planet in the back of beyond, and Seldon himself vanishes from public perception. Sounds good to me.
[08:44:14] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] 02da-dah-dah-dah-da-da - 06Facebook's Zuckerberg Wants to Figure Out Social Equation - 705 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:44:15] <exec> 08└─He must be terminated. Clearly this is how Skynet happens after the events of Terminator 2. No Turks or John Henrys needed. I'm putting out an APB to all ginger T-2001s. Also not sure if I should be watching Terminator Genisys right now or not. All they've got on torrent are out of focus camrips in...
[08:44:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03TGV [2838] 02Only a layman... - 06Facebook's Zuckerberg Wants to Figure Out Social Equation - 687 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:44:20] <exec> 08└─can think so simplistically. As a child, I looked at text in another language and thought that there must be some formula to change the letters so that they would form the same text in my native language. That's what Zuckerberg's idea sounds like, Anyone who has studied a bit of AI or cognitive psyc...
[08:49:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:yeah, why indeed - 06Why Apple Should Kill Off the Mac - 505 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:49:19] <exec> 08└─Dominating a growing market the way iPhone does leads to absolutely ridiculous profits. Not doing so leads to mediocre profits. Profit-wise, nothing else should matter to Apple besides ensuring that dominance. Thus we get: Mac business hurts iOS business -> ditch macs Mac business supports iOS busin...
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[09:42:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02obviously corporate sabotage - 06Someone is Cutting Fiber Optic Cables in San Francisco - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:42:28] <exec> 08└─Wireless companies are cutting their competitors fibers to get consumers to switch to wireless instead. Meanwhile, blame DEH TERRISTS for AT LEAST 9/11 PHYSICAL ATTACKS! We need More military police funding! KILL the fucking rag-heads who hate OUR FREEDOMS! HOW will you get your CAT VIDEOS with TERR...
[09:42:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03dr_barnowl [1568] (Score:1) 02Plausible theory : it's the NSA - 06Someone is Cutting Fiber Optic Cables in San Francisco - 500 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:42:29] <exec> 08└─I saw this theory on, you know, that OTHER forum platform. If you cut a cable, it gives you a free reign to splice a surveillance device elsewhere in that same cable - the initial cut covers the outage, and any change in signal levels will be put down to variance in the splice. So, it's likely it's...
[09:42:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Plausible theory : it's you - 06Someone is Cutting Fiber Optic Cables in San Francisco - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:42:31] <exec> 08└─NSA doesn't need to splice cables. NSA can demand access to the cables and plant child porn on anyone who refuses. Far more plausible than your bullshit NSA theory: you're doing it, and you're the Luddite nutjob.
[09:42:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I called 811 to report a cut in 2010 - 06Someone is Cutting Fiber Optic Cables in San Francisco - 499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:42:32] <exec> 08└─two sets of namesevers, for a total if seven stopped responding to pings all at the same time. Despite that 811 exists to prevent cable cuts, not only was there no way for me to report that one had just happened, it was clised for the day. I called 911 but the dispatcher claimed I was delusional. He...
[09:42:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Spam) 02Emergency, Will Robinson!! - 06Someone is Cutting Fiber Optic Cables in San Francisco - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:42:34] <exec> 08└─Porn Site Down! Emergency! Help! Rapidly Losing Erection! SOMEONE PLEASE FUCK ME!
[09:43:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yes, and Yes. - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:43:35] <exec> 08└─You would have to assume the Greeks are stupid enough to export food in the face of mass starvation
[09:44:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Thank all of you at SN! - 06Facebook's Zuckerberg Wants to Figure Out Social Equation - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:44:57] <exec> 08└─Mark will now use all your responses to come up with his new formula.
[09:50:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Re:Average fail - 06Why Apple Should Kill Off the Mac - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:50:39] <exec> 08└─They didn't invent the ultrabook format.
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[10:43:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Can Malware Prevent Another Snowden? - 06Researchers Expose Dino, Espionage Malware with a French Connection - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:43:07] <exec> 08└─Our dearest Leaders are so kind and generous to allow us to live in peace with our mouths full of bread and our internets full of circuses. Surely they deserve not the embarrassment of false lies perpetrated by evil traitors such as Snowden.
[10:43:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Plausible theory : it's the NSA - 06Someone is Cutting Fiber Optic Cables in San Francisco - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:43:19] <exec> 08└─That's a totally implausible theory. Even assuming the NSA would need to physically tap the cables, they would certainly be smart enough not to create a detectable pattern that proves coordination.
[10:43:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Nooo!? - 06Someone is Cutting Fiber Optic Cables in San Francisco - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:43:22] <exec> 08└─Someone is Cutting Fiber Optic Cables in San Francisco
[10:43:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nooo!? - 06Someone is Cutting Fiber Optic Cables in San Francisco - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:43:24] <exec> 08└─They just couldn't wait for gay marriage to be legalized and a pope who says divorce is OK now.
[10:43:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:just what is hyperscaler? - 06As 100 Gbps Ethernet Picks Up, Google Ponders 5 Petabits Per Second - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:43:37] <exec> 08└─Perhaps they meant 'hyperscalar'? (a higher dimensional scalar) In any case, it's heavy on the 'hype'.
[10:44:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yes, and Yes. - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:44:31] <exec> 08└─Also, if they sell expensive food and buy cheaper food for that money, they actually have increased their food supply (not their food quality, but when starving, you don't care whether your food qualifies for a three-star restaurant; you care whether if fills your stomach and keeps you alive).
[10:44:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Personally, I blame systemd - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:44:46] <exec> 08└─Could someone please uninstall systemd-troll?
[10:44:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Terrible summary - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 409 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:44:50] <exec> 08└─The Greek government held a referendum on whether to accept the deal. Germany^H^H^H the ECB told Greece to fuck off on a short extension to accommodate the referendum. Summary writer mocks the Greek government for actually serving the desires of the Greek people by asking them what they want. Contra...
[10:44:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A Greek tragedy - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:44:56] <exec> 08└─it happened because the Greek government lied about the state of its finances
[10:44:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03zeigerpuppy [1298] 02Where it ends - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 280 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:44:57] <exec> 08└─We'd all be much better off without predatory banking. Iceland played the right card, if casino banking gets you into the mess, Jail the criminals and default. The banks take the hit while your basic services and infrastructure keep running. Greece should have defaulted long ago.
[10:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cosmology - 06New Model of Cosmic Stickiness Favors 'Big Rip' Demise of Universe - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:45:16] <exec> 08└─Your face isn't much different from astrology - full of holes and bullshit.
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[11:43:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Bien sur - 06Researchers Expose Dino, Espionage Malware with a French Connection - 387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:43:09] <exec> 08└─You can smell the fromage that is French code from a kilometer away. Because they use variable names like colorbackground instead of backgroundcolor, etc. Somehow the bratwurst that is German code is also noticeable, but I can't really put my Zeigefinger on ze problem there. Oh, and Spanish (¿Paell...
[11:43:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03ticho [89] (Score:1) 02Re:Bien sur - 06Researchers Expose Dino, Espionage Malware with a French Connection - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:43:10] <exec> 08└─... and now I'm hungry.
[11:43:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03btendrich [3700] (Score:1) 02Re:Plausible theory : it's the NSA - 06Someone is Cutting Fiber Optic Cables in San Francisco - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:43:24] <exec> 08└─The NSA can coerce the providers into installing the taps themselves. Other countries spy agencies however...
[11:44:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:KISS from a simple girl.. so lovely ;-) - 06Amazon Announces "s2n," a New Open Source TLS Implementation - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:44:10] <exec> 08└─Do you have any particular feature in mind?
[11:44:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Personally, I blame systemd - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:44:52] <exec> 08└─Thanks, systemd
[11:44:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03jmorris [4844] 02Only the start - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 2169 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:44:53] <exec> 08└─This is only the start, there will be a last minute deal.... that won't hold and another after that until the pain becomes unbearable for everyone involved. Meanwhile the rest of the PIIGS gets closer to the same problem with the rest of the world lined up behind them. Everybody has pretty much the...
[11:44:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Government corrupt - confidence dumped ;-) - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:44:56] <exec> 08└─It is estimated that the amount of tax evasion by Greeks stored in Swiss banks is around 80 billion EUR and a tax treaty to address this issue is negotiation between the Greek and Swiss government.
[11:44:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] (Score:2) 02Re:Terrible summary - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 531 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:45:00] <exec> 08└─Or: The Greek government deliberately walked out of talks after five months and stalled progress by deliberately holding a referendum half a week after a deadline they promised to keep five months ago, when the deadline 5 months ago was postponed just to give them space. If the Greek government want...
[11:45:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Kharnynb [5468] 02It's no longer about greece, really. - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 395 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:45:02] <exec> 08└─From an EU point of view, this has very little to do with greece any more, and a lot more with Italy(mostly) and Spain(less so currently). Greece could be supported and held up, it's tiny, and the debts aren't really all that big concidering the size of Europe as a whole. But we could never hold up...
[11:53:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] (Score:2) 02Re:Not using the domain - 06Lawsuit Filed Over Domain Name Registered 16 Years Before Plaintiff’s Use - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:53:15] <exec> 08└─Good point, $ELIPHINO could very well be legit. In which case the judge (hopefully) sides with Kneen.
[11:53:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] (Score:2) 02Re:Not using the domain - 06Lawsuit Filed Over Domain Name Registered 16 Years Before Plaintiff’s Use - 738 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:53:17] <exec> 08└─If that's not what we want, we should put a different system in place. Tempest made a good point that you don't need to use a domain name for hosting a web site to use it anyway (FTP, SMTP, usenet, server, etc.). Lack of HTML does not mean lack of need to connect. It also need not mean a lack of nee...
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[11:53:18] <exec> 08└─I would hope that most judges or even filing clerks would toss my case, but unfortunately the highest court in the land (my land anyway, not sure what country you hail from) gave exactly that sort of land grab its stamp of approval a few years ago: https://en.wikipedia.org
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[12:42:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Just a Bit Short - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:02] <exec> 08└─I know these things can have a snowball effect
[12:42:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Re:Just a Bit Short - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:03] <exec> 08└─Three times as much is great. It's still WAY off track to come close to what's needed. It's now 0.1% of the way to the goal. Raising over a million dollars for crowdfunding is amazing as an achievement. But it's like raising $100 towards the price of a $10,000 new car. You're orders of magnitude off...
[12:42:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just a Bit Short - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:04] <exec> 08└─it won't cause it only fixes the ony payment they defaulted on last night, there's several tens of billions of payments due by september
[12:42:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Dead beats - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:07] <exec> 08└─The Greeks are a bunch of dead beats. Pay your bills or lower your standard of living. If you can't pay it back, don't borrow it.
[12:42:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Dead beats - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 587 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:09] <exec> 08└─they did lower their standard of living, and rather massively: - both wages and pensions went down 40-60% across the board, - they lowered governement expenses by 20% in 5 years (absolotue figures) - they also have near 30% unemployment and 50+% unemployed youth - 45% of pensioners now get less then...
[12:42:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dead beats - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:10] <exec> 08└─They did all this after decades of corruption and profligate social spending. The barn door was open and the horse gone at the turn of the century.
[12:42:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02It's a bailout for the lenders, not for Greece. - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:12] <exec> 08└─When you owe the bank $100 and you can't pay, then you have a problem. When you owe $1,000,000, the bank has a problem. A lot of people look at debt in terms of morality and honor. This is a huge mistake! You bet your ass the banks don't look at it that way. The correct approach is to compare the co...
[12:42:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03WizardFusion [498] (Score:2) 02Link - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:13] <exec> 08└─How about a link to the actual fund raiser - https://www.indiegogo.com [indiegogo.com]
[12:42:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Past a million already ... - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:15] <exec> 08└─Even if it fails, I'm fairly sure its going to set records. That being said, I actually think it might have a slight chance of actually succeeding ...
[12:42:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Re:Bien sur - 06Researchers Expose Dino, Espionage Malware with a French Connection - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:42:23] <exec> 08└─Let me tell you about Hungarian warts...
[12:42:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Plausible theory : it's the NSA - 06Someone is Cutting Fiber Optic Cables in San Francisco - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:42:35] <exec> 08└─The only alternative is it's Luddite nutjobs? How about a pissed off telecom worker? What about someone with mental illness? A bunch of teenagers who are doing it for kicks? You're not really thinking too hard about this; there are a lot of alternatives.
[12:42:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I called 811 to report a cut in 2010 - 06Someone is Cutting Fiber Optic Cables in San Francisco - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:42:38] <exec> 08└─Despite that 811 exists to prevent cable cuts, not only was there no way for me to report that one had just happened, it was clised for the day.
[12:42:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03OrugTor [5147] (Score:1) 02Not vandalism - 06Someone is Cutting Fiber Optic Cables in San Francisco - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:42] <exec> 08└─It sounds like the Numb3rs episode where someone knocked power substations offline with the ultimate goal of . The FBI has better uses for its special agents than investigating vandalism so hopefully they are considering more exotic scenarios such as a test run on taking a MMA offline. Removing netw...
[12:42:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Disrupting the data web? - 06Someone is Cutting Fiber Optic Cables in San Francisco - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:44] <exec> 08└─Someone wants to throw a wrench into the cogs of data mining and dependence? (or it's some French pitchfork that just hit the ground deeply with a note "French farmer was here")
[12:42:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Solution? - 06As 100 Gbps Ethernet Picks Up, Google Ponders 5 Petabits Per Second - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:56] <exec> 08└─Put storage where the computers that uses it are? And be a lot smarter about using it. Yes one can make pigs fly but it wastes a lot of resources.
[12:43:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:MAC addresses perhaps not that reliable? - 06Kenya to Require Users of Wi-Fi to Register With Government - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:43:06] <exec> 08└─Actually it provides a new way to harm someone. Step 1: Find out his MAC (not hard; his device is broadcasting it all the time). Step 2: Set your device's MAC to his. Step 3: Do something illegal on the internet. The MAC recorded will be that of your victim. Step 4: Make sure the police finds out ab...
[12:43:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"open source" Which license? - 06Amazon Announces "s2n," a New Open Source TLS Implementation - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:26] <exec> 08└─Things that matter for geeks, ffs!
[12:44:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Terrible summary - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 609 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:44:14] <exec> 08└─No, they could not have held the same referendum five month ago : during the negociations, all parties changed their position. But now the EU wants to force Tsipras to forget the promises he made when he got elected : no more cuts to pensions, no more VAT on basic needs (such as electricity). This i...
[12:44:17] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03mendax [2840] 02A Greek tragedy - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 1618 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:17] <exec> 08└─What's happening to Greece is definitely a tragedy, perhaps on par with one of Sophocles' plays. Greece should never have been permitted to enter the Euro zone in the first place, but it happened because the Greek government lied about the state of its finances. But it was, the government continued...
[12:44:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Where it ends - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:44:22] <exec> 08└─You seem to ignore that Greece is currently spending less than what it gets from taxes *before debt payments*. If they completely stop paying their lenders, they don't have a budget problem.
[12:45:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:In America - 06Cuba Cuts Mother-to-Child HIV Transmissions to 2% - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:45:55] <exec> 08└─Classy, Ethanol.
[12:46:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] (Score:2) 02Holland vs Hollande vs Netherlands - 06Holland to Open Roads to (some) Experimental Self Driving Robots - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:45] <exec> 08└─I'm Dutch and I saw this headline 4 times on this site before realising it referred to the country of the Netherlands, and not the French Prime Minister Hollande. We stopped calling The Big Apple "Nieuw Amsterdam", can you guys start calling our country by it's current name as well? Maybe, for start...
[12:48:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02lolkthxbye - 06Finnish Pioneer of Texting Tech Dies - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:48:24] <exec> 08└─srsly 2 bad
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[13:41:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Just a Bit Short - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:41:55] <exec> 08└─This needs to pick up at an exponential rate to have a prayer of hitting the goal.
[13:41:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:€1.6 billion? - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:41:58] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but Bill Gates is busy dumping his money into real problems affecting real people, not financial problems affecting institutional investors in the world's biggest economic zone.
[13:42:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dead beats - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:02] <exec> 08└─What a very stupid thing to say... The politicians who borrowed the money are not the little people who are expected to pay it back. And who the fuck lends billions of dollars to dead beats? Part of the blame certainly lies on creditors. Here's a documentary you might find interesting. https://en.wi...
[13:42:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dead beats - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:04] <exec> 08└─The creditors, largely European banks, were foolish enough to lend the money, but that doesn't absolve the Greeks from the contract they entered into willingly and also foolishly.
[13:42:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Dead beats - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:06] <exec> 08└─The creditors, largely European banks, were foolish enough to lend the money
[13:42:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Dead beats - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:07] <exec> 08└─Actually, a big part of the problem is rampant tax evasion in Greece.
[13:42:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dead beats - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:09] <exec> 08└─Thank god no one does that in amerika
[13:42:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Past a million already ... - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:11] <exec> 08└─Are people actually contributing money, or just making pledges? If it's the latter, they'll have a tough time collecting from people who pledged more than say $20.
[13:42:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03YeaWhatevs [5623] (Score:1) 02Re:Past a million already ... - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:13] <exec> 08└─It comes out of your account immediately if you use paypal, refunded later if the goal isn't met.
[13:42:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:4, Funny) 02What have the Greeks ever given us? - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:14] <exec> 08└─All right, but apart from mathematics, science, philosophy, democracy, medicine, cartography, and wine, what have the Greeks ever done for us?
[13:42:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What have the Greeks ever given us? - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:16] <exec> 08└─Gift horse. Pederasty. Souvlaki.
[13:42:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Taxes - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:17] <exec> 08└─Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment
[13:42:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02It's perhaps not about Greek debt after all? - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:19] <exec> 08└─If every member of Europe would only have to give €3 each then it perhaps indicates it's not about debt. It's about something else. Perhaps a signal to Italy, Spain, Portugal etc to not step into the not-pay-debt territory? And the database servers of banks, credit card issues and IndieGoGo will h...
[13:42:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kilo110 [2853] (Score:2) 02Re:It's perhaps not about Greek debt after all? - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:21] <exec> 08└─That 3 euro number is nonsense. That's just the interest payment. The real number is a couple of orders of magnitude higher.
[13:42:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Breaking News - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:22] <exec> 08└─Yeah, breaking news. Is there "wink wink" unicode character? But, if Europeans all chip in, maybe we can just put this silly bailout business behind us.
[13:42:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Breaking News - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:24] <exec> 08└─Because if the economic structure isn't fixed no amount of money will fix the long term feature.
[13:42:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03hunchentoot [4874] (Score:1) 02What a stupid stupid idea... - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 458 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:25] <exec> 08└─No matter where you stand on the next step for the country, you must agree the massive financial wreck that is the state of greece was architected by the troika and the wealthy elite of greece. The poor commoners of the world bailing out the banks and the elite? Not to mention that no matter how pal...
[13:42:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:What a stupid stupid idea... - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:27] <exec> 08└─The poor commoners of the world bailing out the banks and the elite? Not to mention that no matter how paltry the amount of money you raise, it isnt going to any starving family in greece, it is going straight to the banks.
[13:42:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Re:Plausible theory : it's the NSA - 06Someone is Cutting Fiber Optic Cables in San Francisco - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:43] <exec> 08└─Even assuming the NSA would need to physically tap the cables, they would certainly be smart enough not to create a detectable pattern that proves coordination.
[13:42:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Reminds me of "backhoe delay" - 06Someone is Cutting Fiber Optic Cables in San Francisco - 442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:53] <exec> 08└─Back in the 80s and 90s when the internet was just getting it's legs under it, it was common for large areas to go dark because a backhoe operator cut through the T3 lines. I remember at one time, after a certain area had a few of these outages, someone asked "Have you guys ever heard of a fallback...
[13:43:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03threedigits [607] (Score:2) 02Re:just what is hyperscaler? - 06As 100 Gbps Ethernet Picks Up, Google Ponders 5 Petabits Per Second - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:05] <exec> 08└─It's different than most supercomputers which are usually set in stone.
[13:43:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"open source" Which license? - 06Amazon Announces "s2n," a New Open Source TLS Implementation - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:37] <exec> 08└─Apache Software License 2.0
[13:44:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So just a continuation of the Big Bang - 06New Model of Cosmic Stickiness Favors 'Big Rip' Demise of Universe - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:45] <exec> 08└─Well, obviously 10% of infinity is still pretty infinite, although not just as infinite as infinity, since 90% of infinity are missing. Where it gets really interesting is when you're getting infinitesimally close to infinity.
[13:44:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So just a continuation of the Big Bang - 06New Model of Cosmic Stickiness Favors 'Big Rip' Demise of Universe - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:48] <exec> 08└─I actually expected a link to this. [multivax.com]
[13:45:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03JeanCroix [573] (Score:2) 02Re:Thank all of you at SN! - 06Facebook's Zuckerberg Wants to Figure Out Social Equation - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:31] <exec> 08└─Zuck's Basilisk?
[13:45:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03edIII [791] 02Re:So... Cuba and child mortality - 06Cuba Cuts Mother-to-Child HIV Transmissions to 2% - 1559 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:51] <exec> 08└─While you bring up a good point, in the ol' US of A, numbers have been flat out ignored by Big Pharma for greater profits. My country is not completely innocent, or without blemish on its medical community. So I must seriously question, without any intended hyperbole whatsoever, how the fuck can we...
[13:45:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:So... Cuba and child mortality - 06Cuba Cuts Mother-to-Child HIV Transmissions to 2% - 443 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:46:00] <exec> 08└─The United States of America of today looks very much like the Soviet Union we grew up despising yesterday. Mass surveillance? Check. Sham elections? Check. Pervasive propaganda? Check. Secret courts? Check. Unlawful detentions? Check. Complete government disregard for written laws? Check. Governmen...
[13:46:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:So... Cuba and child mortality - 06Cuba Cuts Mother-to-Child HIV Transmissions to 2% - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:46:01] <exec> 08└─Don't be so hasty on the gulags thing. Do yourself a favor, and google "FEMA camps". There are those who claim that the gulags have been built, they just sit empty and idle, waiting for the shit to hit the fan. I guarandamntee that I won't be "reeducated". The bastards can kill me first, if it comes...
[13:46:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:So... Cuba and child mortality - 06Cuba Cuts Mother-to-Child HIV Transmissions to 2% - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:46:05] <exec> 08└─No, I don't. Sorry if I implied I did. My original story, I think, was on medium, a long-form journalism site that's a little less uncredible. I recognize those as possible propoganda, even more so than the original thing I read.
[13:46:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:180 more days of bulk collection - 06Secret US court allows resumption of bulk phone metadata spying. - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:46:33] <exec> 08└─No, I don't "recall incorrectly". I was talking about bulk collection, not the creation of FISA. Stupid goddamn pedantic corrections that don't look at the wording used.
[13:47:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03gidds [589] (Score:2) 02Re: Holland vs Hollande vs Netherlands - 06Holland to Open Roads to (some) Experimental Self Driving Robots - 919 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:47:04] <exec> 08└─I for one (can't speak for the original submitter) will be happy to refer to your country by its correct title — but I'm ashamed to say that until I saw your post, I wasn't sure what that was! I'm English (and I know my country has its own naming issues...), so I guess I share some of the Anglopho...
[13:47:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why do I need the cloud? - 06MIT’s Bitcoin-Inspired ‘Enigma’ lets Computers Mine Encrypted Data - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:47:29] <exec> 08└─Well, the solution to this is easy: Don't use iWalledGarden.
[13:47:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:DRM for data? - 06MIT’s Bitcoin-Inspired ‘Enigma’ lets Computers Mine Encrypted Data - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:47:36] <exec> 08└─But couldn't you reveal the content of a ballot by simply running the whole algorithm on that single ballot, and then looking who won that one-voter "election"?
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[14:41:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:3, Interesting) 02corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 2446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:41:38] <exec> 08└─sigh. even the conservative governments are starting to ease up. but industry? pfffft! in a pig's eye. they are in love with the idea of drug testing you. I have no clue why but they seem to think they get better people (??) that way. don't know. here in calif, I was close to taking a job - and then...
[14:41:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Leebert [3511] (Score:2) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:41:39] <exec> 08└─Not that I agree with it entirely, but I found this to be an interesting read (from a company that, obviously, makes money on drug tests): http://www.questdiagnostics.com [questdiagnostics.com]
[14:41:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Insightful) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 1035 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:41:40] <exec> 08└─Weed is fine for rock musicians, artists and other creative people. And college kids are experiment with weed so there's no sense in going after them (except the big pushers, maybe). I happen to think that regular moderate to heavy use detracts from long term performance in many fields. And it does...
[14:41:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:41:42] <exec> 08└─Aged brains.. easier to compete for others then?
[14:41:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:41:43] <exec> 08└─If you mean do I think it's easier to compete against a pothead vs. someone similar in age, background, and natural ability who doesn' t use, the answer is yes. I'd rather have higher performing coworkers.
[14:41:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03bart9h [767] (Score:2) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:41:45] <exec> 08└─Regular moderate to heavy use indeed can detract from long term performance, but that don't justify the test. THC stay detectable in the blood for a long time, and even light usage can get you on the test. The performance should be evaluated on practical terms.
[14:41:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:41:47] <exec> 08└─I would never hire a pot-head. They tend to run at the mouth and ignore capitalization.
[14:41:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:41:48] <exec> 08└─Not a republican mentality at all. Two things drive corporations to drug test everyone. First, there is the boss's innate desire to control every fucking thing around him, including your time off. Second, is the insurance industry. There is nothing partisan about this thing at all. But, there is a s...
[14:41:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 0249 states - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 530 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:41:50] <exec> 08└─There are only 49 states, the District, and a handful of possessions and territories to go! Or, if we want to be more technical, only about 30 more states. What's it take? 2/3 of the states to ratify a constitutional amendment? So - thirty two more states, and we can propose the amendment, push it t...
[14:41:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:49 states - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 8 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:41:51] <exec> 08└─48, man.
[14:41:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:49 states - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:41:53] <exec> 08└─Places where recreational marijuana is legal in the USA: Colorado Washington Oregon Washington, DC However, it is only Colorado and Washington State where it is legal to sell it. The others just legalized possession.
[14:41:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:49 states - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 622 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:41:55] <exec> 08└─In my home state of Ohio, small-scale pot possession with no intent to sell is currently about the same level of offense as a speeding ticket, and there are multiple legalization initiatives either expected to be on the 2015 ballot or in the middle of signature drives to get on the 2016 or 2017 ball...
[14:41:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmn32480 [443] (Score:2) 02In other news... - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:41:56] <exec> 08└─Twinkee and Doritos sales skyrocket!
[14:42:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:Just a Bit Short - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:10] <exec> 08└─Congratulations are in order for the IMF. After a long history of raping an pillaging third world countries, they are now able to cause financial collapse in the first developed nation. Kudos to the economic hit men that pulled this one off.
[14:42:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dead beats - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:17] <exec> 08└─You're reply and Greece's situation is akin to person A being choked to death by person B while person B keeps yelling: "why are you letting yourself be choked... start breathing again..."
[14:42:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dead beats - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:24] <exec> 08└─Avoidance ≠ Evasion with regards to taxes
[14:42:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03srobert [4803] (Score:1) 02Re:Dead beats - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 594 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:25] <exec> 08└─The Greek nation is like a guy who "borrowed" money to buy medicine for a sick kid. He would promise anything at the time to get the money to save the kid's life. So, he promised to kill one of his other kids, as a condition of the loan. The sick kid got his medicine. Now it's time to pay up. What d...
[14:42:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Past a million already ... - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 472 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:31] <exec> 08└─Speaking of which, you guys could reset the SoyNews fund-raiser counter back to zero, borrow a large amount of money in Zlotys, do a credit default swap into Zimbabwean dollars, let the banks create loan-loss reserves against your debt, arrange a temporary bail out from the Japanese until a budget c...
[14:42:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] 02What have the Greeks ever given us? - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 142 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:33] <exec> 08└─All right, but apart from mathematics, science, philosophy, democracy, medicine, cartography, and wine, what have the Greeks ever done for us?
[14:42:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's perhaps not about Greek debt after all? - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:37] <exec> 08└─> The real number is a couple of orders of magnitude higher. As the citizenry of the EU will soon find out.
[14:42:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:It's perhaps not about Greek debt after all? - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:39] <exec> 08└─This is IMF debt. The total owed is €40 billion.
[14:42:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:What a stupid stupid idea... - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:43] <exec> 08└─Bail outs are so yesterday. The latest strategy is the "bail in". The bail in works by letting the banks take the money directly out of all the depositor's bank accounts. Difficult to avoid in Euroland these days with all the "cashless" rules and cash limiting regulations.
[14:44:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Yes, and Yes. - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:44:17] <exec> 08└─It looks like a lot has changed in the last ten years: http://www.fairtrade.net [fairtrade.net]
[14:44:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Where it ends - 06Greece Defaults, Still Wants Bailout - 418 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:44:56] <exec> 08└─If that was true then they never would have needed a loan in the first place. But if you are saying they have resolved their original budget issue since the loan then that is great. However their new budget failed to include the cost of repaying that loan, which means the budget is still not correct...
[14:45:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:So just a continuation of the Big Bang - 06New Model of Cosmic Stickiness Favors 'Big Rip' Demise of Universe - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:13] <exec> 08└─Huh. I find fascinating the estimation of 1e+20 times increase in entropy generated by the collapse of a star into a blackhole. Say... 20 times hotter than the star, yet no heat can escape the horizon.
[14:46:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:So... Cuba and child mortality - 06Cuba Cuts Mother-to-Child HIV Transmissions to 2% - 2149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:27] <exec> 08└─Speaking entirely anecdotally: My mother had a fair amount of contact with Cubans during the early 1990's as part of a religious exchange program, including a couple of visits (and no, she wasn't followed around by government minders or anything like that). This was the roughest time for Communist C...
[14:47:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re: Holland vs Hollande vs Netherlands - 06Holland to Open Roads to (some) Experimental Self Driving Robots - 864 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:31] <exec> 08└─Most Dutch people don't mind 'Holland', used as a pars-pro-toto. When someone in a foreign county asks where I'm from I'll answer 'the Netherlands' first, and add 'Holland' if they look puzzled. It is ofcourse a national sport to be pedantic about it (as long as it's not financially disadvantageous)...
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[15:41:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Compensation 6 percent below the private sector? - 06Scientist Union’s Talks Stall over Pay - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:41:40] <exec> 08└─What an outrage. Even the lifetime pension benefits they'll be collecting at the taxpayers' expense can't make up for that.
[15:41:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Compensation 6 percent below the private sector - 06Scientist Union’s Talks Stall over Pay - 619 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:41:41] <exec> 08└─Yes, actually, that is an outrage: We want the government scientists to be good at what they do (otherwise, they'll waste time and resources the same way sub-par people in any endeavor do). If their salaries are noticeably low in comparison to the private sector, and they seem to be, then the smart...
[15:41:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Compensation 6 percent below the private sector - 06Scientist Union’s Talks Stall over Pay - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:41:42] <exec> 08└─Yeah, as far as public sector workers in California go, they aren't the most screwed. When you work for the government, you do one of two things: either: sacrifice some of your potential income to do the kinda public works that help people, or B: you're a military contractor.
[15:41:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Compensation 6 percent below the private sector - 06Scientist Union’s Talks Stall over Pay - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:41:44] <exec> 08└─B) Sacrifice someone elses life? ;) C) Work in the private sector and sacrifice stress and mundane environment..
[15:41:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 779 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:41:54] <exec> 08└─Why Drug Test? [questdiagnostics.com] Employees who abuse drugs are 2.5 times more likely than other non-substance abusing coworkers to be absent for >8 days. Drug abusers are 3.6 times more likely to be involved in an accident at work and 5 times more likely to file a workers compensation claim. 44...
[15:41:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:41:56] <exec> 08└─And as usual, there is confusion between "drug user" and "drug abuser". Because, of course, we all know, if a drug is made illegal by the federal government, then any use of that drug is abuse. </sarcasm>
[15:41:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:41:58] <exec> 08└─Perhaps drug use consequences and probability for specific things to occur?
[15:42:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03JeanCroix [573] (Score:2) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:42:03] <exec> 08└─It might be legal in a few states, but it's still not legal federally. So it's still an easy way for employers to determine if you're breaking the law. Unless you've recently traveled to Amsterdam or somewhere similar, that is. But I think legalization will have to become much more widespread before...
[15:42:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:42:05] <exec> 08└─Right, and that's a risk. If a genuinely social conservative enforcement regime comes back to the white house, they have established authority and precedent to arrest people in all these states. Congress needs to amend federal Marijuana laws to only recognize intent to sell across national or state...
[15:42:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Smell - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:42:10] <exec> 08└─I don't smoke, and I don't have any problem with its legalization. I do have a problem with the smell though. I live in an apartment, and every weekend the smell of my neighbors smoking weed invades my place. Closing the windows is not an option, since it is hot during the day. Of course, where I l...
[15:42:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02This story isn't getting comments - 061 MW Electric Car Sets New Record at Pikes Peak Int'l Hill Climb - 545 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:42:18] <exec> 08└─And that's sad. Electric cars have had advantages in speed, acceleration, and efficiency for a while now. It's no surprise that running up a mountain quickly(an exercise that tests those exact features) would be easy for an electric to win. Those advantages are offset by being more expensive and hav...
[15:42:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:This story isn't getting comments - 061 MW Electric Car Sets New Record at Pikes Peak Int'l Hill Climb - 544 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:42:20] <exec> 08└─I live in an apartment with no charging station, and no workplace charging station. An all electric just isn't practical for me. I also like to do things like drive a couple hundred miles for things like Vegas, Disneyland, Magic Mountain, Santa Barbara, etc. Unless I'm 100% confident I can charge my...
[15:42:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Re:This story isn't getting comments - 061 MW Electric Car Sets New Record at Pikes Peak Int'l Hill Climb - 619 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:42:21] <exec> 08└─People who live in apartments are stuck with a chicken-and-egg problem - the landlords won't provide charging stations until electric cars are popular, and electric cars popularity will grow slowly as long as apartment-dwellers have a hard time charging them. Probably the only way to get landlords o...
[15:42:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Re:This story isn't getting comments - 061 MW Electric Car Sets New Record at Pikes Peak Int'l Hill Climb - 830 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:42:23] <exec> 08└─The range thing is, in most cases, pretty much bullshit. The segment of the population that drives more than 200 miles a day (outside of things like delivery drivers) is vanishingly small, and IIRC the average round-trip commute is under 30 miles. So an electric car with a 100-mile range would more...
[15:42:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02videos - 061 MW Electric Car Sets New Record at Pikes Peak Int'l Hill Climb - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:42:25] <exec> 08└─This year's race winner (per the story). [youtube.com] I believe this is the all-time record holder. [youtube.com]
[15:42:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dead beats - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:42:42] <exec> 08└─It's completely self-inflicted. Nobody made them join the EU, borrow money, or spend it all. No one is choking them.
[15:42:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dead beats - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 4096 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:42:46] <exec> 08└─When you take on a loan, the offset of the risk that is taken on by the lender is what they call the interest. That is why it exists: I take on risk to lend you money which you may not pay me back so I'm taking on interest so that I cover that risk. All in all and over all the loans I make, I'll com...
[15:42:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dead beats - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:42:51] <exec> 08└─Avoidance: the act of avoiding Evasion: to avoid doing Avoidance != Evasion ... An interesting theory you have there...
[15:42:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Re:Dead beats - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:42:53] <exec> 08└─From what I can tell, criminal tax evasion is when the poor and the middle class do it. When you're rich enough to hire lobbyists to rewrite the tax code in your favor, that's mere tax avoidance--a proud and perfectly legal American tradition!
[15:42:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dead beats - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:42:55] <exec> 08└─Greece is like a guy who borrowed money to buy an xbox off Craigslist.
[15:42:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:It's a bailout for the lenders, not for Greece. - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:42:57] <exec> 08└─Not honoring your commitments is rarely a good thing. That doesn't mean failing to honor a commitment won't bring you personal gain though. There are many times in life where doing the opposite of what you have promised to do will benefit you greatly. But people who do that are usually regarded as u...
[15:43:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] 02Re:Past a million already ... - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 472 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:02] <exec> 08└─Speaking of which, you guys could reset the SoyNews fund-raiser counter back to zero, borrow a large amount of money in Zlotys, do a credit default swap into Zimbabwean dollars, let the banks create loan-loss reserves against your debt, arrange a temporary bail out from the Japanese until a budget c...
[15:43:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's perhaps not about Greek debt after all? - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 1834 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:10] <exec> 08└─€400 billion, not €40 billion. And the crowdfunded €1.5 billion for the IMF wouldn't even cover everything that was due on June 30th. The Greek administration also stiffed their own national bank to the tune of €500 million. But the thread starter is right, it's not about the money: If Europ...
[15:43:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02A lack of planning on your part... - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 749 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:16] <exec> 08└─...does not constitute an emergency on my part. Seriously, why would anyone want to bail either Greece or their creditors out? Greece has already declared bankruptcy multiple times since it was founded as a modern country. They've gone and outspent their income again, and lots of banks were dumb eno...
[15:43:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Been done before - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:17] <exec> 08└─European here: haven't we been crowd funding the Greek economy for at least a decade now?
[15:43:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03BananaPhone [2488] (Score:2) 02Re:Plausible theory : it's the NSA - 06Someone is Cutting Fiber Optic Cables in San Francisco - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:43:39] <exec> 08└─You are right. it is too "public" Makes for a great diversion though...
[15:45:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03dboz87 [1285] (Score:1) 02Re:Where it ends - 06Greece Defaults; Still Wants Bailout - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:32] <exec> 08└─Which is why he used the word "currently". He is not talking about how they got into trouble, he is talking about what is keeping them there.
[15:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Where it ends - 06Greece Defaults; Still Wants Bailout - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:33] <exec> 08└─That was the case right before they basically backed out of the reforms by voting Syriza into power. Since then, Greece couldn't achieve a primary surplus if they wanted to, and almost half the population doesn't even want to, which is my point.
[15:46:03] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03e_armadillo [3695] 02Will Zuckerberg be a real life Hari Seldon ? - 06Facebook's Zuckerberg Wants to Figure Out Social Equation - 25 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:03] <exec> 08└─Hahahahahahaha . . . . No
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[16:41:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03JeanCroix [573] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Compensation 6 percent below the private sector - 06Scientist Union’s Talks Stall over Pay - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:41:49] <exec> 08└─Speaking as someone on the (B) option, even making six figures wasn't enough to live comfortably in a San Diego suburb. Cost of living in SoCal is insanity; I don't know how people do it. Midwest for me, thanks.
[16:41:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02just saying - 06Scientist Union’s Talks Stall over Pay - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:41:50] <exec> 08└─University research scientists and post docs need a big bump too.
[16:41:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Apples and oranges - 06Scientist Union’s Talks Stall over Pay - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:41:51] <exec> 08└─From the link, 73% of the state chemists have a Bachelor's degree. From the Bureau of Labor Statistics, nationally, only about 50% of the chemists have Bachelor's degrees. They are then trying to compare a median made up of a larger Bachelor pool to another. Plus, at least for the Federal workforce,...
[16:42:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:49 states - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:42:16] <exec> 08└─Or, if we want to be more technical, only about 30 more states. What's it take? 2/3 of the states to ratify a constitutional amendment? So - thirty two more states, and we can propose the amendment, push it through and get it ratified.
[16:42:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Smell - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:42:19] <exec> 08└─Is smoking allowed by their lease? If not, your answer is right in front of you.
[16:42:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Smell - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:42:21] <exec> 08└─I wonder if I'm the only one who can't stand that smell.
[16:42:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:This story isn't getting comments - 061 MW Electric Car Sets New Record at Pikes Peak Int'l Hill Climb - 538 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:42:32] <exec> 08└─The range thing is 100% not bullshit. Granted, I do 200+ mile trips maybe 2-3 times a year. But I can only afford 1 car, and if you're telling me to rent a car for my long trips then lets just say no. My car is much more comfy than any rental I'll get for a decent amount of $$$, and renting a car fo...
[16:42:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snospar [5366] (Score:1) 02Re:videos - 061 MW Electric Car Sets New Record at Pikes Peak Int'l Hill Climb - 741 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:42:34] <exec> 08└─And the videos are well worth the time (10 minutes or so). The electric car is eerily quiet, I can't work out if that is just due to microphone placement or if these things really are like the electric milk floats of old: "silent death". Good to see the spectators were behaving themselves, I've seen...
[16:42:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score:2) 02Re:videos - 061 MW Electric Car Sets New Record at Pikes Peak Int'l Hill Climb - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:42:36] <exec> 08└─I would guess it's microphone placement and the wind noise is drowning out everything else. Formula E cars make enough noise that you hear them coming: https://youtu.be [youtu.be] This probably does too if you have a stationary microphone instead of one on the outside of the car.
[16:42:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Only dissappointment is it is paved - 061 MW Electric Car Sets New Record at Pikes Peak Int'l Hill Climb - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:42:37] <exec> 08└─My only disappointment after reading this is that the road is now paved all the way to the top. I last went up to the top in 2010 so there were still gravel patches. Now if only they could have mandatory pull offs for things like minivans that handle like shopping carts I might consider driving up i...
[16:42:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Just a Bit Short - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:42:51] <exec> 08└─Probably a bit to do with corporate donation schedules, but the reason that the FreeBSD Foundation runs an end-of-year pledge drive is that they tend to get 50-75% of their donations in the last two weeks of the year. People are more likely to donate to things close to deadlines.
[16:43:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dead beats - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 717 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:00] <exec> 08└─Yes, and everyone knew about this. The country has been close to a debt crisis ever since it fought off the Ottomans nearly two centuries ago. Yet despite all that, they were still allowed to join the Euro zone and they still were allowed to borrow at inconceivably low interest rates. You can't plac...
[16:43:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Dead beats - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:02] <exec> 08└─They did all this after decades of ... profligate social spending
[16:43:05] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02Re:Dead beats - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 76 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:06] <exec> 08└─The creditors, largely European banks, were foolish enough to lend the money
[16:43:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dead beats - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:12] <exec> 08└─Here's what the IRS says about it. [irs.gov]
[16:43:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Dead beats - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:16] <exec> 08└─And the Germans who benefitted from increased exports due to an artificially undervalued currency as a result of Greece's membership of the Eurozone, what are they?
[16:43:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:It's perhaps not about Greek debt after all? - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 868 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:30] <exec> 08└─The underlying problem is that you can't have a single currency shared across very different economies without some form of capital redistribution. The USA does this by taxing all of the states and moving money into the ones with weaker economies (amusingly, mostly the ones that complain about big g...
[16:44:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02mercy on those who omitted to do their homework - 06Kenya to Require Users of Wi-Fi to Register With Government - 1617 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:36] <exec> 08└─From a naive perspective, it makes sense to "register" all devices to an individual user. I can see how the thinking goes: Bad guys sometimes do bad stuff over the InternetWe'd like to pay them a visitTherefore we simply register devices - that way, when a bad guy does bad stuff, we'll know his a...
[16:44:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:mercy on those who omitted to do their homework - 06Kenya to Require Users of Wi-Fi to Register With Government - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:44:37] <exec> 08└─Firstly, only "good" people will follow the law whereas "bad" people will circumvent it.
[16:44:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03gnuman [5013] 02Re:KISS from a simple girl.. so lovely ;-) - 06Amazon Announces "s2n," a New Open Source TLS Implementation - 41 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:44:46] <exec> 08└─If we only could have TLS based on DNSSEC
[16:45:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Only the start - 06Greece Defaults; Still Wants Bailout - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:40] <exec> 08└─Sound economic policy from Thatcher was selling off income-generating assets to cover operating costs. I think it's safe to ignore anything that she said on economic policy.
[16:45:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Where it ends - 06Greece Defaults; Still Wants Bailout - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:56] <exec> 08└─I addressed that. Even if the government is spending less than what it takes in as taxes it hasn't budgeted for paying its debt. If the debt is forgiven then they won't have a budget problem but not because they solved it themselves but because someone else solved it for them. Of course nobody would...
[16:46:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03fadrian [3194] (Score:2) 02There is no equation to life... - 06Facebook's Zuckerberg Wants to Figure Out Social Equation - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:46:58] <exec> 08└─If there were an equation to life, there would be a constraint for not being a dick. And I think Zuckerberg fails that constraint.
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[17:41:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Sinkholes - 06Rosetta Spacecraft Finds Massive Sinkholes on Comet's Surface - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:41:39] <exec> 08└─Massive Sinkholes? Did it land on Greece?
[17:41:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Sinkholes - 06Rosetta Spacecraft Finds Massive Sinkholes on Comet's Surface - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:41:40] <exec> 08└─Haw haw haw. You should write for SNL!
[17:41:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Compensation 6 percent below the private sector - 06Scientist Union’s Talks Stall over Pay - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:41:50] <exec> 08└─As I read it, Anon's argument is that government scientists get many benefits that private sector scientists don't get, thus more than making up for a 6% pay differential.
[17:41:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:just saying - 06Scientist Union’s Talks Stall over Pay - 559 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:41:56] <exec> 08└─In the UK, there is a special category of work visa for skilled employees. This is relatively easy to get for qualifying jobs, as we quite like skilled people coming over here and paying taxes (well, those of us who don't read The Daily Mail do, anyway). This has a minimum salary requirement as one...
[17:41:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Dump the Union - 06Scientist Union’s Talks Stall over Pay - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:41:58] <exec> 08└─Being handcuffed into a union is stupid. Ditch the union and negotiate your own benefits. If the entity they work for only uses union people, run away and look elsewhere.
[17:42:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 553 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:42:11] <exec> 08└─Interesting but flawed in this context. They throw marijuana in with heroin and cocaine and speak of "abusers". An abuser goes to work stoned or drinking, but there is no good test for marijuana intoxication, only if it's present in your system. Unlike cocaine or heroin, pot will show up for a month...
[17:42:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 1943 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:42:20] <exec> 08└─Not solely puritan or republican but all stemmed from alarmist propaganda and bullshit. Since drugs are illegal, it is a crime to use them. It is also a crime to steal and murder someone. All crime is bad for society. So if you use drugs, you are a criminal in the same way a murderer or thief is a c...
[17:42:24] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:49 states - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 622 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:42:24] <exec> 08└─In my home state of Ohio, small-scale pot possession with no intent to sell is currently about the same level of offense as a speeding ticket, and there are multiple legalization initiatives either expected to be on the 2015 ballot or in the middle of signature drives to get on the 2016 or 2017 ball...
[17:42:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:In other news... - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:42:28] <exec> 08└─wait i heard twinkies went extinct
[17:42:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03redneckmother [3597] (Score:1) 02Re:In other news... - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:42:30] <exec> 08└─Twinkies never die (or mold).
[17:42:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Same problem here. - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 468 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:42:33] <exec> 08└─It actually gives me a headache. And contrary to popular belief, vape pens don't make the smell better (Having had the unpleasant opportunity of comparing both back to back, vaping actually gave me more of a headache.) And don't even get me started on the plants when they're flowering. Ugh. That sai...
[17:42:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03danomac [979] (Score:2) 02Re:Smell - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 745 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:42:35] <exec> 08└─I had this problem when I lived in apartments too - it is what forced me to buy my own place. I work professionally and can't go to work smelling like pot. I did keep my windows closed, and ran A/C when needed. However, I must have been getting used to the smell - I went away for 8 days and came b...
[17:42:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Gran Turismo - 061 MW Electric Car Sets New Record at Pikes Peak Int'l Hill Climb - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:42:50] <exec> 08└─Best game ever. I went through five or six Playstation 2's before getting tired of paying for crappy hardware that only lasts as long as the warranty. Then there was the PS demo disc bug that wiped my memory cards, along with GT data, that was the end of Sony for me.
[17:43:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dead beats - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:25] <exec> 08└─You're being a pedant... My point is that the net result of either is that no taxes are paid that are due/expected. One is 'legal' (but immoral) the other one is illegal (and immoral)
[17:43:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dead beats - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:30] <exec> 08└─Do you really not know how easy it is to have a soft currency? Even the Greeks know how to do it. Do you really believe Germany doesn't know and instead invented the Euro and handed over control of its currency to an Italian because otherwise nobody would have kept buying stuff made in Germany?
[17:43:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's perhaps not about Greek debt after all? - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 1575 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:47] <exec> 08└─Europe also taxes everyone and distributes money to poorer countries. Greece has been a major beneficiary of that system. The loans that the current crisis is about are something else: sovereign debt. The thing that Germany (and others) vetoed and instituted a no-bailout clause against is that a cou...
[17:44:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Plausible theory : it's you - 06Someone is Cutting Fiber Optic Cables in San Francisco - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:44:11] <exec> 08└─NSA doesn't need to splice cables. NSA can demand access to the cables and plant child porn on anyone who refuses. Far more plausible than your bullshit NSA theory: you're doing it, and you're the Luddite nutjob.
[17:44:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Plausible theory - 06Someone is Cutting Fiber Optic Cables in San Francisco - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:44:17] <exec> 08└─Another plausible theory, given the location: It's the revenge of Terry Childs [boingboing.net].
[17:45:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yes, and Yes. - 06Greece Defaults; Still Wants Bailout - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:31] <exec> 08└─Concluding that mass starvation will happen due to profit motive within close proximity is just silly.
[17:45:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03FatPhil [863] 02Re:Only the start - 06Greece Defaults; Still Wants Bailout - 603 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:56] <exec> 08└─> As Lady Thatcher said, "The problem with socialism is sooner or later you run out of other people's money." And, like almost everything else that Thatcher said, she was full of shit. *Nothing* about socialism depends on putting yourself into *debt*. However, *capitalism* is almost entirely about g...
[17:47:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So... Cuba and child mortality - 06Cuba Cuts Mother-to-Child HIV Transmissions to 2% - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:45] <exec> 08└─Fox News is still pushing that "FEMA camp" nonsense? Wow. I suppose that's where all the POWs from the secret mission to conquer Texas, aka Jade Helm 15, are being sent?
[17:48:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] (Score:2) 02Re: Holland vs Hollande vs Netherlands - 06Holland to Open Roads to (some) Experimental Self Driving Robots - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:48:52] <exec> 08└─True enough - and apologies if my tone was a bit grumpy. On a side note: my English pronunciation and a taxi driver's English comprehension once collaborated to work out that I was from Poland. Had to correct him thrice before it sank in - and I used the phrase "Holland" exactly as parent explained:...
[17:49:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03TK [2760] (Score:2) 02Re:yeah! promotion! - 06MIT’s Bitcoin-Inspired ‘Enigma’ lets Computers Mine Encrypted Data - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:49:07] <exec> 08└─Why isn't the degrees sign in your sig upside down?
[17:49:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:yeah! promotion! - 06MIT’s Bitcoin-Inspired ‘Enigma’ lets Computers Mine Encrypted Data - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:49:09] <exec> 08└─I was lazy and used this site to get the upside down unicode characters: http://www.fileformat.info [fileformat.info] I'm not sure there is an upside down ® or even an upside down 1. If there is, then the code us...
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[18:41:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02God... I gotta hide the bodies for weeks now - 06New Forensic Method Estimates Time of Death After Up to Ten Days - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:41:36] <exec> 08└─Stupid scientists, as if it wasn't already hard enough being a serial killer. I hate it when big science keeps stepping on the little guy, who's just trying to make a living, and also a human skin teepee.
[18:41:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Seems a misinterpretation - 06Rosetta Spacecraft Finds Massive Sinkholes on Comet's Surface - 671 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:41:46] <exec> 08└─Something down there may have degassed away over eons, and the thin bridges of accumulated debris simply collapsed slowly the void. They have been watching this degassing for almost a year, and can track the resultant dust plume to these so-called sinkholes The ESA's own page explains this degassing...
[18:41:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:Compensation 6 percent below the private sector - 06Scientist Union’s Talks Stall over Pay - 619 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:41:56] <exec> 08└─Yes, actually, that is an outrage: We want the government scientists to be good at what they do (otherwise, they'll waste time and resources the same way sub-par people in any endeavor do). If their salaries are noticeably low in comparison to the private sector, and they seem to be, then the smart...
[18:42:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Compensation 6 percent below the private sector - 06Scientist Union’s Talks Stall over Pay - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:42:01] <exec> 08└─Six figures in the midwest is probably living in the top 10% too. That's quite a difference.
[18:42:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Compensation 6 percent below the private sector - 06Scientist Union’s Talks Stall over Pay - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:42:03] <exec> 08└─We are at $170K/year in Florida, which puts us at more than 3x the median household income (49K). I received an offer for ~100K in LA, CA, which amounts to a 17% pay cut (I make 90K). Six figures is still ballin' in some places, but not Southern California.
[18:42:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 647 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:42:20] <exec> 08└─But there is a lot of wiggle room in their statistics that they don't want you to look at too closely. Nowhere does it say that these absences are drug related, (correlation / causation), or the result of arrests for mere possession which will not happen now that it is legal. (In fact the 8 day abse...
[18:42:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:42:22] <exec> 08└─Worse than that, they include Alcohol, then use a broad brush to paint all drugs as equally bad. In Washington state cops are still motor vehicle testing accident cases for Marijuana, and making a big deal about it in their press releases, but losing case in court simply because the tests only indic...
[18:42:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:49 states - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:42:36] <exec> 08└─Some cops in these areas are on the record complaining about the pot legalization initiatives because it's making it impossible for them to falsely claim that they smell pot in order to legally search a vehicle or home. The concept that these are searches that they shouldn't be doing hasn't really c...
[18:42:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:In other news... - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:42:41] <exec> 08└─There's a reason why they call it Half-Baked. [benjerry.com]
[18:42:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:In other news... - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:42:42] <exec> 08└─http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120693/ [imdb.com]
[18:42:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Do we really know this yet? - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:42:49] <exec> 08└─Reduced crime, from a legal industry supplanting a black market; higher tax revenue, once weed is legal to sell; and police forces and courts unburdened by droves of misdemeanor pot offenders.
[18:42:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03umafuckitt [20] (Score:2) 02good news - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 1186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:42:51] <exec> 08└─Although I'm no longer living in the US, I'm glad to hear of the progressive changes to cannabis laws as it will likely influence other countries. I smoke only rarely and prefer to grow my own. In fact, growing is half the fun for me. Worldwide the legalisation situation has been a bit up and down,...
[18:43:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:This story isn't getting comments - 061 MW Electric Car Sets New Record at Pikes Peak Int'l Hill Climb - 433 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:43:01] <exec> 08└─Don't forget this won't be cheap. You'll need new power lines to the building, as well as retrofitting the parking area to have metered charging stations for each stall [you think the building will just pony up for the electricity]. And then there is whole electric grid that can't support millions o...
[18:43:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Re:This story isn't getting comments - 061 MW Electric Car Sets New Record at Pikes Peak Int'l Hill Climb - 1278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:43:03] <exec> 08└─I don't expect it to be cheap or easy or simple. That doesn't mean that it isn't worth doing. And no, I don't think that the building will just pony up for the cost of electricity. I think that the solution will probably be a key-operated switch on each charging station so that only the registered u...
[18:43:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Re:This story isn't getting comments - 061 MW Electric Car Sets New Record at Pikes Peak Int'l Hill Climb - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:43:05] <exec> 08└─You did notice that I said pretty much bullshit, and acknowledged that there are cases where that's a valid argument against electric cars? Just because in your specific case an electric car wouldn't work well, doesn't mean that they wouldn't work well for a large proportion of the population. But a...
[18:43:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02EV is an unfair advantage in race. - 061 MW Electric Car Sets New Record at Pikes Peak Int'l Hill Climb - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:11] <exec> 08└─No shifting means more driver concentration on cornering. Very wide power band means equals acceleration to top speed. Probably has regenerative braking when you ease up on the accelerator which means less time on the brake pedal. Then again, it would be fun to go on a "Mr Toads Wild Ride" in it.
[18:43:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dead beats - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:40] <exec> 08└─When you take on a loan, the offset of the risk that is taken on by the lender is what they call the interest.
[18:43:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dead beats - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:48] <exec> 08└─amerika
[18:45:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02Re:mercy on those who omitted to do their homework - 06Kenya to Require Users of Wi-Fi to Register With Government - 1596 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:15] <exec> 08└─That's a fair point - and worth bringing to the discussion. Let's leave the gun topic to one side (that one could be a little loaded, no?) You said (and quite rightly too) '"It won't be perfect" is not a valid reason not to try something' - so it seems you're making an argument centred on weighing t...
[18:45:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:mercy on those who omitted to do their homework - 06Kenya to Require Users of Wi-Fi to Register With Government - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:16] <exec> 08└─so it seems you're making an argument centred on weighing the pre-existing situation with the one after a change is made.
[18:47:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03TK [2760] (Score:2) 02Re:7.24*10^9 - 06Facebook's Zuckerberg Wants to Figure Out Social Equation - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:25] <exec> 08└─The formula is the same, but the constant vary from person to person.
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[19:41:39] <exec> 08└─This guy!
[19:42:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bromine001 [5625] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Dump the Union - 06Scientist Union’s Talks Stall over Pay - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:42:17] <exec> 08└─Because historically non-union workers get paid better and get more vacation?
[19:42:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03mcgrew [701] 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 553 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:42:33] <exec> 08└─Interesting but flawed in this context. They throw marijuana in with heroin and cocaine and speak of "abusers". An abuser goes to work stoned or drinking, but there is no good test for marijuana intoxication, only if it's present in your system. Unlike cocaine or heroin, pot will show up for a month...
[19:42:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:42:40] <exec> 08└─hey man... you can't, like, own an operating system man. not cool
[19:42:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 1133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:42:45] <exec> 08└─Social conservative enforcement still has to answer to State's Rights advocates, which at this time is a much stronger and growing group than the former. That is why recreational marijuana is being implemented state by state, and each state requires in-state production. There is a court battle waiti...
[19:42:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 597 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:42:46] <exec> 08└─"States rights advocates" universally seem to shut up completely the moment those regimes come in. Because the vast majority of those people are seeking to advocate for the states' rights to unreasonably apply socially or economically conservative positions. The details of the different "debates" be...
[19:42:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:42:48] <exec> 08└─Its been rather apparent over the last many months you don't buy into any opinion but your own. So no great loss here.
[19:42:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:42:50] <exec> 08└─you don't buy into any opinion but your own
[19:42:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 1943 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:42:51] <exec> 08└─Not solely puritan or republican but all stemmed from alarmist propaganda and bullshit. Since drugs are illegal, it is a crime to use them. It is also a crime to steal and murder someone. All crime is bad for society. So if you use drugs, you are a criminal in the same way a murderer or thief is a c...
[19:42:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:42:53] <exec> 08└─if it maters, its a japanese (named) company but located in the bay area. huge company; maybe its the home office, in japan, that is stuck in the past and refuses to modernize how it treats its workforce.
[19:42:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:49 states - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:42:57] <exec> 08└─49 states to go? Have you been absent from the planet since you ran away in 1956?
[19:43:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Smell - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:43:08] <exec> 08└─I wasn't tired all the time and sitting around at home with no energy. Cute story, but that isn't a common symptom of a recreational user anyway. Chances are the effort of moving just got you the exercise you've been lacking all along.
[19:43:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:Smell - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 1119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:43:10] <exec> 08└─you are overly sensitive. and I will tell you this for a fact: if you object to pot smoke sticking around, you must 'love' tobacco smoke. that stuff does NOT just wash off or fade away so easily. in cali, where I live, most apartments and even house rentals have a 'no smoking' clause. its because th...
[19:43:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:Smell - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 684 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:43:12] <exec> 08└─one neighbor annoying the other is not ok. similarly, I absolutely hate the smell of cooking onions. never liked them, hate the smell. same with tobacco; hate the smell. I have to say, I've been more annoyed by the 'legal smells' from neighbors than the so-called illegal smells. so, I understand th...
[19:43:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Re:EV is an unfair advantage in race. - 061 MW Electric Car Sets New Record at Pikes Peak Int'l Hill Climb - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:43:34] <exec> 08└─No shifting means more driver concentration on cornering.
[19:43:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Just a Bit Short - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 726 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:48] <exec> 08└─Let me try to convince you what a bad idea this is. What possible incentive would there be for Greece to start living withing their means if you pay off the debt they so glibly accumulated over the years. What possible incentive would there be for the lenders to stop laying debt traps by funding reg...
[19:44:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Dead beats - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:44:12] <exec> 08└─It's not his fault you don't understand what he's talking about. Get your nose out of the dictionary and look at the context... just like you should have done when you first developed an opinion on the topic.
[19:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not vandalism - 06Someone is Cutting Fiber Optic Cables in San Francisco - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:10] <exec> 08└─someone knocked power substations offline with the ultimate goal of .
[19:47:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:john nash beat you by over half a century - 06Facebook's Zuckerberg Wants to Figure Out Social Equation - 1075 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:47:49] <exec> 08└─Most people are getting exactly what they want from their politicians - destruction of unions and further corporate empowerment, destruction of upward social mobility and social safety nets, further disenfranchisement of minorities, lower tax rates for billionaires, money having more direct power at...
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[20:41:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03redneckmother [3597] (Score:1) 02hiding in plain sight... - 06New “Corner Cloak” Directs Light Around Sharp Bends - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:41:39] <exec> 08└─Just have them follow me around my property for a couple of afternoons. I can show 'em how to hide a beer in a brightly colored coozy, sitting in plain sight, at least three times in two hours. Damn, I hate warm beer!
[20:41:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02knife-edge diffraction - 06New “Corner Cloak” Directs Light Around Sharp Bends - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:41:40] <exec> 08└─As a side note, waves bending around corners, the knife edge effect [wikipedia.org] has been understood by radio/radar guys for awhile.
[20:41:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02They found the funk! - 06New “Corner Cloak” Directs Light Around Sharp Bends - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:41:41] <exec> 08└─https://youtu.be/XxaP19pY1FI?t=491 [youtu.be]
[20:41:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03sparky [5496] (Score:1) 02How do you define death? - 06New Forensic Method Estimates Time of Death After Up to Ten Days - 789 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:41:52] <exec> 08└─Hmm...The title claims "Forensic test pins down 'time of death'" but the article itself makes it clear that the methods are far from proven. Also, I was hoping to read where they define the precise moment of death: Signs of death [wikipedia.org] Cessation of breathing Cardiac arrest (no pulse) Pall...
[20:42:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Compensation 6 percent below the private sector - 06Scientist Union’s Talks Stall over Pay - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:42:17] <exec> 08└─Cant tell if troll. Which suburb are you talking about, rancho santa fe? Beachfront la jolla or del mar? You can live comfortably in pretty much every other suburb with six figs. My rule of thumb is that if its mostly Jews and Catholics, well duh, of course you have to be loaded to be comfortabl...
[20:42:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Dump the Union - 06Scientist Union’s Talks Stall over Pay - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:42:23] <exec> 08└─Yeah, that's the only thing that got California tech jobs down to 40 hours/week with accessible vacation time.
[20:42:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Dump the Union - 06Scientist Union’s Talks Stall over Pay - 1143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:42:24] <exec> 08└─Public employees cannot negotiate their own salaries and benefits on an individual basis because of civil service rules in place to protect them from political interference. All employees doing the same job are, more or less, paid the same. There was a case several years ago I heard about where the...
[20:42:37] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 204 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:42:37] <exec> 08└─And as usual, there is confusion between "drug user" and "drug abuser". Because, of course, we all know, if a drug is made illegal by the federal government, then any use of that drug is abuse. </sarcasm>
[20:42:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 867 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:42:46] <exec> 08└─There's a problem with this idea: we already have legal alcohol, and people who are heavy drinkers likewise have permanent body damage: liver problems, obesity ("beer belly"), physical aging (they tend to look older), etc. I imagine it affects their minds too. Same too with cigarettes; I seriously d...
[20:42:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:42:56] <exec> 08└─I suggest most are given (foisted?) free (as in beer) to any who will listen, and the price to be paid comes later, mostly by at least tacitly allowing that some part of your prior operating assumptions may have flaws, and the learning curve imposed to incorporate new ideas into the old.
[20:42:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 486 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:42:58] <exec> 08└─"You're disagreeing with me, thus a singleminded zealot." That's a shallow counterargument that combines an easy ad hominem with a bare assertion. I was disagreeing with you because my opinion differs from yours and discussions are a way to seek, but not always get, clarity about why those differenc...
[20:43:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 476 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:43:01] <exec> 08└─That's odd, and personally I think it's particular to that employer. I've had quite a few different software jobs over the last 17 years now, and only one employer wanted a drug test. It was a really big company which makes microprocessors. And even that was about 15 years ago; I don't know if they...
[20:43:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03danomac [979] (Score:2) 02Re:Smell - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:43:20] <exec> 08└─Smoke doesn't work that way. It doesn't matter what kind of smoke it is, it gets into stuff and the smell doesn't blow away with the wind. Also, smokers can not smell their own smoke in their home. Someone who doesn't smoke will smell it right away. I know my clothes smelled of pot - I had comme...
[20:43:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:Do we really know this yet? - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:43:23] <exec> 08└─It has only been a pretty short time that I would be wary of making claims like this.
[20:43:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:This story isn't getting comments - 061 MW Electric Car Sets New Record at Pikes Peak Int'l Hill Climb - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:43:39] <exec> 08└─The range thing is, in most cases, pretty much bullshit.
[20:44:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just a Bit Short - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 692 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:44:04] <exec> 08└─No kidding the amount need is off by a factor of about 300. They have systemic issues. Of which Germany and France are taking advantage of. Never mind the cooking of the books they did to get into the euro in the first place. One in 4 people work for the gov. Retirement age is 57 and a huge pension...
[20:44:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03sce7mjm [809] (Score:1) 02Re:Dead beats - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 507 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:44:12] <exec> 08└─Think you'll find they didn't actually qualify to join the euro. So actually they were encouraged to join. Probably by the same people who lent them the money, and don't forget what they were buying with the money, military equipment from Germany, civil engineering products from the rest of Europe....
[20:44:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03sce7mjm [809] (Score:1) 02Re:It's a bailout for the lenders, not for Greece. - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 382 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:44:35] <exec> 08└─So all banks fail to honor the commitment the second they lend any money from a depositors account, it's just that they get away with it because people don't want all there deposited money at the same time. They are taking a risk lending. The Europeans have got to accept that lending to countries is...
[20:44:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Taxes - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:44:44] <exec> 08└─It's almost like people wouldn't complain if the taxes were voluntary...
[20:44:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Taxes - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:44:46] <exec> 08└─"Everyone else is paying sufficient tax as it is, my personal contribution will not make a measurable difference, so I won't pay".
[20:45:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03dr_barnowl [1568] 02Plausible theory : it's the NSA - 06Someone is Cutting Fiber Optic Cables in San Francisco - 500 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:06] <exec> 08└─I saw this theory on, you know, that OTHER forum platform. If you cut a cable, it gives you a free reign to splice a surveillance device elsewhere in that same cable - the initial cut covers the outage, and any change in signal levels will be put down to variance in the splice. So, it's likely it's...
[20:45:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Snotnose [1623] 02Reminds me of "backhoe delay" - 06Someone is Cutting Fiber Optic Cables in San Francisco - 442 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:23] <exec> 08└─Back in the 80s and 90s when the internet was just getting it's legs under it, it was common for large areas to go dark because a backhoe operator cut through the T3 lines. I remember at one time, after a certain area had a few of these outages, someone asked "Have you guys ever heard of a fallback...
[20:49:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Naked tyranny - 06Secret US court allows resumption of bulk phone metadata spying. - 470 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:49:31] <exec> 08└─Well, if you don't think that relevant, then I understand why you didn't think it was there (your clear implication). But try also this: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warr...
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[21:41:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Congrats! - 06SoylentNews PBC is One Year Old Today! - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:41:46] <exec> 08└─Thanks for all the hard work guys!
[21:41:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Great. Thanks! - 06SoylentNews PBC is One Year Old Today! - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:41:47] <exec> 08└─I'm not the kind of person to get wrapped up in celebrations or anniversaries, but congratulations for getting through the first year. Considering the origin story of "disaffected users fleeing a much more popular site" I can't see indefinite growth on the horizon, but who needs that?
[21:41:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:2) 02Re:Great. Thanks! - 06SoylentNews PBC is One Year Old Today! - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:41:49] <exec> 08└─There's no such thing as indefinite growth. Eventually growth stops or a bigger fish like Conde Nast or Dice buys you.
[21:41:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Great. Thanks! - 06SoylentNews PBC is One Year Old Today! - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:41:51] <exec> 08└─A fair point on both accounts.
[21:41:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Great. Thanks! - 06SoylentNews PBC is One Year Old Today! - 773 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:41:52] <exec> 08└─Lotta good things about this place. The staff are competent, transparent, and not outwardly arrogant. The site continuously improves both under the hood and with user operations like moderation. They censor spam and repeated shitposts while being reasonably tolerant of alternative viewpoints. The st...
[21:41:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03pyg [4381] (Score:1) 02good on ya - 06SoylentNews PBC is One Year Old Today! - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:41:54] <exec> 08└─Telling when I say something at breakfast and then reference it to soylent or /.; can't remember... although obviously soylentnews has better comments now, which is how I got hooked on that other site. Better in less than one year is pretty impressive.
[21:41:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Happy Bday! - 06SoylentNews PBC is One Year Old Today! - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:41:55] <exec> 08└─Awesome work everyone. How about other ways to support Soylent News besides Paypal and bitcoin.
[21:41:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Happy Bday! - 06SoylentNews PBC is One Year Old Today! - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:41:57] <exec> 08└─What would you like to see?
[21:41:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02canary? - 06SoylentNews PBC is One Year Old Today! - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:41:59] <exec> 08└─https://soylentnews.org/meta/submit.pl?op=viewsub&subid=8115 [soylentnews.org] An Anonymous Coward writes: Just a question for the editors to fill out. Perhaps an answer that one may insert in every post :)
[21:41:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Comments - 06SoylentNews PBC is One Year Old Today! - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:42:00] <exec> 08└─> 204,000 comments posted! Yeah, and about 201,000 of them are by some jackass named Anonymous Coward.
[21:42:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:knife-edge diffraction - 06New “Corner Cloak” Directs Light Around Sharp Bends - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:42:07] <exec> 08└─And mirrors have been understood even longer.
[21:42:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How do you define death? - 06New Forensic Method Estimates Time of Death After Up to Ten Days - 924 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:42:18] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure how this isn't clear from even the summary, but they are USING the appearances of different protein decompositions, well after death, IN ORDER to estimate how much earlier the person died. Until now, liver temperature was used to estimate how much earlier the person died, because the li...
[21:42:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Type44Q [4347] (Score:1) 02The important question is... - 06New Forensic Method Estimates Time of Death After Up to Ten Days - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:42:19] <exec> 08└─The important question is: When can people use this in the supermarket's meat department?? ;)
[21:42:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Compensation 6 percent below the private sector - 06Scientist Union’s Talks Stall over Pay - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:42:40] <exec> 08└─Yes, I think we need someone to measure the levels of sarcasm in that post. They have reached levels of toxicity high enough for me to notice.
[21:42:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Apples and oranges - 06Scientist Union’s Talks Stall over Pay - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:42:50] <exec> 08└─That is part of the problem. If you want good people you need to compensate them well. They don't, so they get less educated people. In other words, you have cause and effect reversed.
[21:42:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Apples and oranges - 06Scientist Union’s Talks Stall over Pay - 839 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:42:52] <exec> 08└─I don't think it is that simple. It depends upon their roles. Chemists who work for the state will be more involved in "ordinary" chemistry; things like sample preparation and analysis, working with Public Works on water safety issues and additives, etc. Research chemists will be involved more with...
[21:42:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Dump the Union - 06Scientist Union’s Talks Stall over Pay - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:42:56] <exec> 08└─Because historically non-union workers get paid better and get more vacation?
[21:42:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dump the Union - 06Scientist Union’s Talks Stall over Pay - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:42:57] <exec> 08└─Since this union still exists, it must be one of the good ones that did not get culled, just as every union that still exists are the good ones in your reasoning.
[21:42:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Dump the Union - 06Scientist Union’s Talks Stall over Pay - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:42:59] <exec> 08└─just as every union that still exists are the good ones in your reasoning
[21:43:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Dump the Union - 06Scientist Union’s Talks Stall over Pay - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:43:01] <exec> 08└─Public employees cannot negotiate their own salaries and benefits on an individual basis because of civil service rules in place to protect them from political interference.
[21:43:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:43:16] <exec> 08└─What's "drug abuse"? What about the workers' rights to do what they want outside of work? Here's a thought: measure absenteeism and performance rather than urine.
[21:43:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 704 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:43:38] <exec> 08└─In my experience private companies dont piss-test, including one I worked for that made class-2 medical devices that could potentially involve life-threatening situations. All public companies ive worked for, even shit retail jobs, do test once up front as a condition of employment and never again u...
[21:43:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03fadrian [3194] (Score:2) 02Re:49 states - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:43:44] <exec> 08└─Oregon is only non-sale right now because the Liquor Control Commission is only now finishing up the rules for sale. Current estimates are early next year.
[21:44:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just a Bit Short - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:44:40] <exec> 08└─Yes, all those innocent Greeks. Poor innocent greeks. They were just doing nothing, spending money and then the big bad world took and took all the money from greece. Yeah, poor innocent Greeks.
[21:44:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dead beats - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:44:52] <exec> 08└─And yet, they continue to spend huge amounts of money on military, when the money is needed elsewhere. Greece has no fucking idea how to handle money, and that's the root of the problem.
[21:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Dead beats - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:13] <exec> 08└─Actually the last thing Germany would want is a soft Euro. What do you think why Germany fought so hard for the current rules? It's because of the fear of replacing the hard DM with a soft Euro. So they fought for rules that were meant to ensure that the Euro would be just as hard as the DM. If you...
[21:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:It's a bailout for the lenders, not for Greece. - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:17] <exec> 08└─Not honoring your commitments is rarely a good thing.
[21:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Past a million already ... - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:23] <exec> 08└─What record levels? The top Kickstarter project raised $20,338,986 for the Pebble smartwatch. The Reading Rainbow program with LeVar Burton raised $5,408,916 at #9. Top Indiegogo project: $12,174,187 for "Flow Hive", whatever that is. The failed Ubuntu Edge fundraiser reached $12,809,906 of Canonica...
[21:45:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Plausible theory : it's you - 06Someone is Cutting Fiber Optic Cables in San Francisco - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:45:46] <exec> 08└─I don't think the GP mentioned the NSA.
[21:46:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03forkazoo [2561] (Score:2) 02Re:Solution? - 06As 100 Gbps Ethernet Picks Up, Google Ponders 5 Petabits Per Second - 709 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:46:16] <exec> 08└─Storage locality certainly matters. It's absolutely a part of the equation. But, you still need to get the data to some user outside your data center, and to replicate data between data centers. 1 Pbit/sec is 1 Mbit/sec for a billion people if I have kept track of the decimal places. It's a lot, but...
[21:46:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:wow - 06Kenya to Require Users of Wi-Fi to Register With Government - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:46:29] <exec> 08└─Really, are you sure you are required to have a bank account in the USA?
[21:46:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:1) 02Public Wi-Fi Only? - 06Kenya to Require Users of Wi-Fi to Register With Government - 1640 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:34] <exec> 08└─It sounds like this would mainly apply to public Wi-Fi. Mainly because licensing users for their own personally owned hardware doesn't make sense. So if we're talking about public Wi-Fi, this does make sense in the case of liability. If a crime is committed on Wi-Fi, is the business hosting the inte...
[21:50:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Naked tyranny - 06Secret US court allows resumption of bulk phone metadata spying. - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:50:16] <exec> 08└─Topic drift. Remember way back when you yourself said: I can't remember the language (not well enough to search for it), but I believe that somewhere in the Constitution secret courts ARE explicitly forbidden.
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[22:41:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03aiwarrior [1812] (Score:2) 02A fablab - 06Mars Exploration - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:41:41] <exec> 08└─A fablab of course. 3D printable and pack the raw materials in a blob
[22:41:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Need hundreds of Kilograms - 06Mars Exploration - 643 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:41:42] <exec> 08└─If we need hundreds of kilograms of balance mass, why send something that weighs half a kilogram, can't carry any useful payload, and has a life spam of a few minutes, but will impose a radio/data load on the lander as well as the orbiter? Send fuel or water or battery packs in their own mini-re-ent...
[22:41:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Need hundreds of Kilograms - 06Mars Exploration - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:41:43] <exec> 08└─Drop some Brazilian Pepper and Melaleuca seeds while you're at it: http://www.miaminewtimes.com [miaminewtimes.com]
[22:41:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Need hundreds of Kilograms - 06Mars Exploration - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:41:45] <exec> 08└─I was about to suggest the plot of Red Planet [wikipedia.org], and sending hundreds of kilograms of oxygen producing cold tolerant plants, but I hate it when others suggest a sifi movie solution to a real world problem. Maybe you are on to something, and we should drop kudzu seeds.
[22:41:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:2) 02Re:Great. Thanks! - 06SoylentNews PBC is One Year Old on July 4th! - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:41:57] <exec> 08└─There's no such thing as indefinite growth. Eventually growth stops or a bigger fish like Conde Nast or Dice buys you.
[22:42:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:canary? - 06SoylentNews PBC is One Year Old on July 4th! - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:42:02] <exec> 08└─Remember reading a comment by a user here about his work filter blocking this site because it was labeled under the 'political advocacy' catagory. It might be reassuring to have a legalspeak 'never served with a warrant' thrown somewhere.
[22:42:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:3, Funny) 02I am surprised - 06New “Corner Cloak” Directs Light Around Sharp Bends - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:42:16] <exec> 08└─I did not see this coming.
[22:42:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:God... I gotta hide the bodies for weeks now - 06New Forensic Method Estimates Time of Death After Up to Ten Days - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:42:24] <exec> 08└─> make a living Or a killing.
[22:43:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Re:Dump the Union - 06Scientist Union’s Talks Stall over Pay - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:43:10] <exec> 08└─I was referring to civil service rules, not the influence the unions have on what they are paid. But what I said about the government employee compensation is in fact accurate.
[22:43:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dump the Union - 06Scientist Union’s Talks Stall over Pay - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:43:11] <exec> 08└─negotiate your own benefits.
[22:43:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03dusty monkey [5492] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 544 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:43:50] <exec> 08└─My employer requires a drug test upon being hired. About 6 years ago they decided that random drug testing was also a good idea. They canceled the random drug testing after 2 weeks due to having to fire everyone that they tested. The drug test upon entry is a good idea. It is proof that you do not (...
[22:44:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Only dissappointment is it is paved - 061 MW Electric Car Sets New Record at Pikes Peak Int'l Hill Climb - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:44:34] <exec> 08└─All gravel when my father competed, late 40s and early 50s. If you watch the videos and get bored, skip past halfway where they get above the tree line...
[22:44:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Just a Bit Short - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:52] <exec> 08└─Let me try to convince you what a bad idea this is.
[22:45:28] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] 02It's a bailout for the lenders, not for Greece. - 06Crowdfunding Greece's Repayment - 413 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:45:28] <exec> 08└─When you owe the bank $100 and you can't pay, then you have a problem. When you owe $1,000,000, the bank has a problem. A lot of people look at debt in terms of morality and honor. This is a huge mistake! You bet your ass the banks don't look at it that way. The correct approach is to compare the co...
[22:46:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Plausible theory : it's you - 06Someone is Cutting Fiber Optic Cables in San Francisco - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:01] <exec> 08└─Oops, that's what I get for not reading titles (kind of hate it when the post doesn't work without the title, sigh). In any case, the serious half of my response still stands, that there are groups other than the NSA that may want to copy and parse internet data for their own ends.
[22:46:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02What if it were not an accident? - 06Someone is Cutting Fiber Optic Cables in San Francisco - 479 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:11] <exec> 08└─If a natural disaster occured right then the phone systems would not work. Earthquakes happen all the time in San Jose. My real concern was that it was that there were more than one cuts. Supposed you wanted to make war on the united states. The best way to start is to eliminate our C^3I - Command,...
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[23:41:51] <exec> 08└─An acronym that only NASA could love!
[23:42:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kell [292] (Score:2) 02Re:Great. Thanks! - 06SoylentNews PBC is One Year Old on July 4th! - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:42:05] <exec> 08└─Excellent points, although I should ask: isn't communism somewhat appropriate? Something about "by the people, for the people"?
[23:42:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:Great. Thanks! - 06SoylentNews PBC is One Year Old on July 4th! - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:42:06] <exec> 08└─the best way to convert someone to thinking along communism lines: have them live a few decades in the present day USA. not kidding.
[23:42:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:Happy Bday! - 06SoylentNews PBC is One Year Old on July 4th! - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:42:11] <exec> 08└─Does Google wallet still have an api? They are already "all you bases R belongs to us" for me, so they're my preferred internet transaction portal.
[23:42:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmn32480 [443] (Score:2) 02Re:Comments - 06SoylentNews PBC is One Year Old on July 4th! - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:42:16] <exec> 08└─Yes, Anonymous Coward is a jackass. But he is OUR jackass, and we still love him!
[23:42:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:The important question is... - 06New Forensic Method Estimates Time of Death After Up to Ten Days - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:42:42] <exec> 08└─I think we just found ourselves a way to check for meat quality. Guess those meat cheaters will get a hard time..
[23:43:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:43:41] <exec> 08└─Current testing methods can't aren't capable of distinguishing a marijuana yesterday from a joint smoked during today's coffee break.
[23:43:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:43:42] <exec> 08└─Employees using alcohol is perhaps neither a good idea. But I guess you say that drug (as in cannabis etc) users are less prone to upset the workplace? Another risk down the road is peer pressure to smoke weed just like drinking alcohol is today.
[23:43:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:corporations will lag behind - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:43:45] <exec> 08└─If you look at the text in my post that says "drug abuse" it's the drug testing company that generated it. As for work. Only performance and courtesy should be the important factors to benchmark employees to.
[23:44:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:49 states - 06Oregon Legalizes Recreational Marijuana - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:44:16] <exec> 08└─Oh - I forgot. There are 58 states now, right?
[23:46:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Solution? - 06As 100 Gbps Ethernet Picks Up, Google Ponders 5 Petabits Per Second - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:46:52] <exec> 08└─I think part of the solution is to parallelize things otherwise one will end up with these bottlenecks.
[23:47:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03FunkyLich [4689] (Score:1) 02Re:Yes, and Yes. - 06Greece Defaults; Still Wants Bailout - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:47:43] <exec> 08└─I find this interesting, how does the low value of Euro from Greece be of a benefit for Germany and France? I don't remember where I saw this by-mentioned elsewhere, but I can't see how does this work. Could you introduce me to this notion please?
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