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[00:41:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Employment Changes - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:41:40] <exec> 08└─Basically, far fewer jobs in the US for developers, and many more for lawyers. Thanks Oracle!
[00:41:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Employment Changes - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:41:41] <exec> 08└─Yeah avoid the USA,, oh wait the trans Atlantic trade deal. The sue party may begin! So if you are a developer that wish to use an API of a company based in USA, keep out of that country. Bonus point for no compromised hardware-software by law, no really nasty letters, sue happy lawyers etc.
[00:41:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02sky is falling - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:41:42] <exec> 08└─This is an important case, because it sets precedent if publicly documented software APIs can be copyrighted. This has relevance throughout the FOSS community, from Wine (reimplementing the Windows API) to Octave (reimplementing the MATLAB API)... There is no option to overturn this precedent save a...
[00:41:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:I still don't get it - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 768 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:41:53] <exec> 08└─You are basically correct. You add them for the same reason you add leap days. However, because our lives are now affected by time measurement on the second or sub-second level (e.g., GPS), these seconds do add up. Many things operate on GPS time, which does not include leap seconds, so to convert G...
[00:41:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:I still don't get it - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:41:54] <exec> 08└─So have one clock time which is UTC that includes leap seconds and other leap stuff. Then another clock time that is strictly time based and that have no synchronization to the Earth specific movements.
[00:41:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:I still don't get it - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:41:56] <exec> 08└─Time is relative! Muahahahaha!
[00:41:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:I still don't get it - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:41:57] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time [wikipedia.org] https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] UT1 is continuous and drifts from true noon as the earth slows down. UTC isn't continuous but tracks the earth to less than a second. UTC is a royal pain when doing b...
[00:42:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Structure not prices the problem in Australia? - 06Australian Regulator Trying to Cut Telecoms Prices - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:42:13] <exec> 08└─Prices isn't the main problem in Australia? I recall some fiber network roll out being fucked up by government and some corporate interests (Murdoch - MurderDoc?) Seems controlling prices won't matter for consumers if you still will be captive to some copper in the ground while South Koreans and oth...
[00:43:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Make them pay - 06How Television Beat the Internet - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:43:20] <exec> 08└─I'm trying to picture where you COULD have product placement in Game of Thrones if you wanted it. There was zero product placement in Lord of the Rings too.
[00:43:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Make them pay - 06How Television Beat the Internet - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:43:21] <exec> 08└─That's the point. If shows needed product placement in order to be funded then shows like those wouldn't even be greenlit.
[00:43:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Alternative approach to intelligence. - 06Ask Soylent: Beginning in Artificial Intelligence Methods - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:43:55] <exec> 08└─How is that different from a human?
[00:44:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:quick sum up - 06LGBT Rights Are Good for the Tech Industry, SF Pride Parade Chief Says - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:44:47] <exec> 08└─Who is redefining marriage? Its always been a contract, and contracts are only useful if they're backed by the government.
[00:44:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''the oldest inclusions of organizing'' - 06LGBT Rights Are Good for the Tech Industry, SF Pride Parade Chief Says - 416 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:44:54] <exec> 08└─Yes, there is many a society that has a giant stick up its butt about one fetish or another. ...then, to get back onto the LGBT topic, there is the culture of the indigenous peoples of the western hemisphere who saw those folks [google.com] as a resource to be utilized. [wikipedia.org] You didn't re...
[00:44:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fuck gay rights - 06LGBT Rights Are Good for the Tech Industry, SF Pride Parade Chief Says - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:45:00] <exec> 08└─"Traditional marriage" is a contract for an exchange of property. Lets not go back to that.
[00:45:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fuck gay rights - 06LGBT Rights Are Good for the Tech Industry, SF Pride Parade Chief Says - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:45:09] <exec> 08└─Remove marriage status as something the government deals with
[00:45:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:No, just...no - 06LGBT Rights Are Good for the Tech Industry, SF Pride Parade Chief Says - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:45:20] <exec> 08└─Or perhaps people with the right papers but commodity "talent" and strong ability suck up the corporate culture. And perhaps most of all O-B-A-Y.
[00:45:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No, just...no - 06LGBT Rights Are Good for the Tech Industry, SF Pride Parade Chief Says - 369 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:45:26] <exec> 08└─If marriage was about procreation, all marriages would be immediately anulled at the onset of menopause, if a tibal ligation / vasectomy was performed, or if testicular/ovarian cancer occurred. If its solely about procreation, then how come nobody is telling my dad he can't remarry because of his va...
[00:45:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My date to the company picnic? - 06LGBT Rights Are Good for the Tech Industry, SF Pride Parade Chief Says - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:45:44] <exec> 08└─See this post [soylentnews.org].
[00:45:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No, just...no - 06LGBT Rights Are Good for the Tech Industry, SF Pride Parade Chief Says - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:45:47] <exec> 08└─stop shoving your sexuality in everyone's faces. You are not special, you are not the center of the universe, the rest of the world mostly does not care who you have sex with.
[00:46:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Er, wtf - 06Man Shoots Down Neighbor's Hexacopter - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:46:07] <exec> 08└─Cops are too far away to get there in time. They don't bother even if they could. We pay taxes, but they are diverted to other things. Like paying corporation for services that some senator got a kickback from.
[00:46:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Have to be careful with it... - 06Man Shoots Down Neighbor's Hexacopter - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:46:12] <exec> 08└─But an old cyclotron out of a microwave ...
[00:46:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Er, wtf - 06Man Shoots Down Neighbor's Hexacopter - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:46:17] <exec> 08└─Provided the aiming is correct. What would be the least dangerous ammunition one can use to disable a standard drone (30 cm wide?) ..?
[00:46:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Er, wtf - 06Man Shoots Down Neighbor's Hexacopter - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:46:22] <exec> 08└─Destroy it, no discussion, a line in the sand must be drawn
[00:46:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Why shoot it? - 06Man Shoots Down Neighbor's Hexacopter - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:46:29] <exec> 08└─Perhaps one can try out a miniature Patriot system that can actually fire ;-) Complete with the 100 hour bug? ;) "Now you too can protect your personal airspace from Saddam, flies and drones! only 2 million US$ - buy today!"
[00:47:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03el_oscuro [1711] (Score:2) 02Re:Opposing hatred and violence - 06Activist Cuts Down Confederate Flag from SC Statehouse - 576 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:47:37] <exec> 08└─It originally started as a battle flag for the Northern VA army in the battle of Bull Run, for the most prosaic of reasons: The original confederate flag looked too much like the US flag and commanders couldn't tell them apart in battle. It's origin in Fairfax county is documented by this nondescrip...
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[01:41:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Re:Employment Changes - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:41:45] <exec> 08└─There's also a Trans Pacific Trade deal. It'll be pretty much the same thing I suspect.
[01:41:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Employment Changes - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:41:46] <exec> 08└─Yeah, Trans sea reach of corporate bullying.
[01:41:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Re:sky is falling - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:41:49] <exec> 08└─I tend to try to play devil's advocate in these things and try to understand them in non-"the sky is falling" terms, but I really can't get a clear feel for what the scope of this is going to be and it seems like it has bad implications.
[01:41:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:sky is falling - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:41:50] <exec> 08└─Furthermore there is zero up-side to a ruling like this. Copyrighting an API does not provide an incentive to create the API in the first place, the API is just a means to the end goal of creating software that does something.
[01:41:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:sky is falling - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:41:52] <exec> 08└─Armed with this ruling, SCO might've had a case, were it not for the fact that Novell actually owned the System V API (d'oh!) and that many parts of the Unix were either open source'd or allowed to be standardized between the mid 1970's and early 2000's.
[01:42:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:I still don't get it - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:42:06] <exec> 08└─So people should use TAI for GPS and broadcast etc. And UTC for alarm clocks etc. And everybody will be happy?
[01:42:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:I still don't get it - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 463 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:42:07] <exec> 08└─In a nutshell, but this perfect world is screwed because humans who only occasionally care for 27 seconds, use machines who always do. And instead of going TAI, humans have designed machines who seem to all have a different way to handle UTC leap seconds... The most fun part of the dialog when broad...
[01:42:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Hrm ... - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:42:09] <exec> 08└─I'm honestly curious if anything will go BANG on SoylentNews with the leap second. We're using clustering for the database, as well as quite a bit of rewritten code w.r.t timestamps and such. If we unexpectedly go down on the 1st, I'm blaming this.
[01:42:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02dams - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 637 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:42:11] <exec> 08└─"Scientists don’t know exactly why fewer leap seconds have been needed lately." Actually, I've heard one reason why. Gigantic dams, mostly in the northern hemisphere, have impounded so much water in huge reservoirs at relatively high latitudes that the Earth's spin is noticeably affected. The wate...
[01:42:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Murdoc [2518] (Score:1) 02What to do with your extra second - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:42:12] <exec> 08└─John Oliver has you covered: http://spendyourleapsecondhere.com [spendyourleapsecondhere.com] It's a collection of random 1 second videos to entertain you for your extra second. Corny I know, but he's fun.
[01:42:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:It's not really the wisest course - 06Germany's Oldest Remaining Nuclear Plant Shuts Down - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:42:59] <exec> 08└─The problem was not the sea wall.
[01:43:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:It's not really the wisest course - 06Germany's Oldest Remaining Nuclear Plant Shuts Down - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:03] <exec> 08└─What's definitely true is that you don't want to be making the transition when you don't have cheap fuels to power the change-over.
[01:43:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Make them pay - 06How Television Beat the Internet - 492 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:38] <exec> 08└─I think it's a question of the format (both being fantasy settings taking place before modern brands). Show me a movie/series that takes place in a modern or close future setting that don't relentlessly do the same thing, regardless of what channel they show up on or how much money is behind it. Ser...
[01:44:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02YES! - 06Ask Soylent: Beginning in Artificial Intelligence Methods - 742 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:44:18] <exec> 08└─Yes! Yes, to use any tool, you must understand what it is doing. Now, you don't need to know the intimate details of how a particular library has optimized a technique. "How To Lie With Statistics" is famous but there's no equivalent for machine learning. The idea behind it, though, that by misusing...
[01:44:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Up To.... - 06Ransomware-Installing Exploit Kit Targets Flash Remote Code Execution - 1315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:44:32] <exec> 08└─The first phrase I scan for when handed a business contract is the phrase "up-to". Its my first "red flag" that tells me the business is likely shoddy and is basing their model on screwing the customer. They want to leave good hopes, but no commitment. They will still expect payment in full, even t...
[01:45:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck gay rights - 06LGBT Rights Are Good for the Tech Industry, SF Pride Parade Chief Says - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:21] <exec> 08└─"Traditional marriage" is a contract for an exchange of property. Lets not go back to that.
[01:45:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:No, just...no - 06LGBT Rights Are Good for the Tech Industry, SF Pride Parade Chief Says - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:48] <exec> 08└─Utter nonsense. No one denied a gay the right to commit to a member of the opposite sex for the purposes of procreation. No matter how you spin it, you're arguing for a SPECIAL RIGHT for gays.
[01:45:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:No, just...no - 06LGBT Rights Are Good for the Tech Industry, SF Pride Parade Chief Says - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:49] <exec> 08└─Ah ha! See, you contradicted yourself! You are wrong! Ha! What? You don't see it? It's a blatant contradiction. . . Hm, this is going to make things difficult. Here goes: No one denied a gay the right to commit to a member of the opposite sex for the purposes of procreation.
[01:45:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No, just...no - 06LGBT Rights Are Good for the Tech Industry, SF Pride Parade Chief Says - 518 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:45:53] <exec> 08└─The 8 company anniversary dinners we attended together. The picture of her I have for my desktop wallpaper. Keep in mind this was first pointed out to me before gay marriage was legal, so some of these are iffier now, but were red flags when I said them "I can't stay late, I'm having dinner with my...
[01:46:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Er, wtf - 06Man Shoots Down Neighbor's Hexacopter - 1197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:46:30] <exec> 08└─I can see you have not had helicopters circling around your house. Believe me, a helicopter pilot thinking having a big heavy machine paid for by taxpayers gives him the right to make repeated passes over residences at low altitude is really a pain in the ass. Especially when they do it at midnight....
[01:48:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmn32480 [443] (Score:2) 02Re:The tyranny of the majority - 06Activist Cuts Down Confederate Flag from SC Statehouse - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:48:06] <exec> 08└─Obviously I missed something that I said for you to go off on this tangent and talk around the issue. Thank you for illustrating my point perfectly.
[01:48:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03penguinoid [5331] (Score:2) 02Re:Opposing hatred and violence - 06Activist Cuts Down Confederate Flag from SC Statehouse - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:48:17] <exec> 08└─The confederate flag was explicitly created to represent racial bigotry.
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[02:41:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02When all you have is a hammer - 06Iraqi Government Shut Down Internet to... Prevent Exam Cheating - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:41:41] <exec> 08└─When all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail. So much for the orderly if brutal society of Saddam.
[02:41:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:When all you have is a hammer - 06Iraqi Government Shut Down Internet to... Prevent Exam Cheating - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:41:42] <exec> 08└─On the other hand, why is a country which is about to be over-run by ISIS or subsumed into Iran worrying about exam cheating to the point of shutting down the phone system? Ban the firggin phones on campus. Cart - Horse problem.
[02:41:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:sky is falling - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 1547 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:41:57] <exec> 08└─This is a case that would never have happened had Google just wanted to USE the APIs. Where ORACLE got the undies in a knot was that Google really wanted to build a replacement for the JVMs that Oracle was selling which was to be compatible at the API level, so zero code change would be needed. I've...
[02:41:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:sky is falling - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:41:58] <exec> 08└─push to get ... into the public domain
[02:41:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02What can be done? - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 718 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:42:00] <exec> 08└─It would be one thing if this were a law, in which case you could sue the Attorney General in their ex officio capacity to get the law declared invalid for whatever reason. But this is a specific interpretation of the law. I suppose now we can look forward to computer science research getting stifle...
[02:42:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Amicus Brief is a Legal Opinion - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:42:02] <exec> 08└─The Solicitor General does not get to instruct the Supreme Court on things. It's an Amicus Brief which is a legal opinion or advice, rather than an order as the summary seems to imply.
[02:42:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Re:I still don't get it - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 826 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:42:19] <exec> 08└─The argument that breaking UTC from UT1 would require changing laws, regulations, and technical specs seems like self inflicted brain damage. All of these things are already overruled by enforcement of a de facto standard through time synchronization mechanisms and they all have to tolerate some dri...
[02:43:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Putin-approved - 06Germany's Oldest Remaining Nuclear Plant Shuts Down - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:43:02] <exec> 08└─Go look at the numbers and stop spouting nonsense.
[02:44:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cord-Cutter here - 06How Television Beat the Internet - 874 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:44:02] <exec> 08└─I'm so jealous. Ever since History stopped showing Modern Marvels and Discovery moved Mythbusters to some other channel to make room for more reality TV, cable has been dead to me. But my wife is another story. Between her soap opera and her reality shows, she's the primary viewer in our house. The...
[02:44:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Deep Learning is not intelligence - 06Ask Soylent: Beginning in Artificial Intelligence Methods - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:44:31] <exec> 08└─I can agree with that.
[02:45:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:No, just...no - 06LGBT Rights Are Good for the Tech Industry, SF Pride Parade Chief Says - 732 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:45:56] <exec> 08└─I think it goes without saying that some sucking up to the culture you wish to join is in proper order. Regardless of credentials. If the friggin tie is required you wear it. As for the right papers, I suspect you've been around long enough that might get you into a chair that requires an MBA, but i...
[02:46:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:No, just...no - 06LGBT Rights Are Good for the Tech Industry, SF Pride Parade Chief Says - 848 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:46:05] <exec> 08└─You are describing a formal partnership. Two or more men, two or more women, or any combination of men and women may form a partnership, just as they can form a corporation, to serve almost any purpose which they deem proper. A partnership is a legal, recognized, and honored arrangement that dates b...
[02:46:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:No, just...no - 06LGBT Rights Are Good for the Tech Industry, SF Pride Parade Chief Says - 3255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:46:07] <exec> 08└─I feel obligated to respond to this. The one thing that continues coming up for me is the question of what the value of gay marriage is in the face of the larger situation you mention. We're looking at a total destruction of the middle class. So, sure, we can have gay marriage and legal weed, but we...
[02:46:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Er, wtf - 06Man Shoots Down Neighbor's Hexacopter - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:46:49] <exec> 08└─I can see you have not had helicopters circling around your house.
[02:46:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Er, wtf - 06Man Shoots Down Neighbor's Hexacopter - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:46:52] <exec> 08└─To get there in time because your neighbor is flying a drone over your property? That isn't an emergency so who cares if they take an hour.
[02:48:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:Opposing Federal Conquest - 06Activist Cuts Down Confederate Flag from SC Statehouse - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:48:19] <exec> 08└─Gaining? With the Klan and racist politicians largely unable to have any significant impact for the last few decades I'd say that's not true at all. The future is bright, despite the media's narrative.
[02:48:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Opposing hatred and violence - 06Activist Cuts Down Confederate Flag from SC Statehouse - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:48:39] <exec> 08└─Childish name calling. Is that the best you got? If your going to attack me you better bring some real arguments to the table. Otherwise go back to the child's table and finish your veggies.
[02:48:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Opposing hatred and violence - 06Activist Cuts Down Confederate Flag from SC Statehouse - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:48:40] <exec> 08└─And before you get all grammar Nazi on me, I realize I misspelled you're.
[02:48:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03penguinoid [5331] (Score:2) 02Re:Opposing hatred and violence - 06Activist Cuts Down Confederate Flag from SC Statehouse - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:48:42] <exec> 08└─Childish name calling.
[02:48:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Opposing hatred and violence - 06Activist Cuts Down Confederate Flag from SC Statehouse - 518 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:48:48] <exec> 08└─Ouch, why so cold? Everyone's opinion matters. Everyone's thoughts matter. I think she's a moron and it was a funny story. Her opinion still matters too. But because my feelings for some reason make me think this is all funny, you don't think my opinions matter as much as hers anymore? Geez. I think...
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[03:41:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:When all you have is a hammer - 06Iraqi Government Shut Down Internet to... Prevent Exam Cheating - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:41:41] <exec> 08└─Because they need someone who's smart enough to learn how to drive a camel.
[03:41:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:When all you have is a hammer - 06Iraqi Government Shut Down Internet to... Prevent Exam Cheating - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:41:42] <exec> 08└─What exactly do you think they should be doing, deploy the ministry of education on the frontlines? Single-minded focus is as outdated as carts and horses.
[03:41:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Junior high school entrance exams? - 06Iraqi Government Shut Down Internet to... Prevent Exam Cheating - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:41:44] <exec> 08└─Where Im from you attend the school thats closest to home.
[03:41:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Junior high school entrance exams? - 06Iraqi Government Shut Down Internet to... Prevent Exam Cheating - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:41:45] <exec> 08└─Where you are from Junior High isn't the highest level learning institution for the vast majority of the population.
[03:41:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Tee hee - 06Iraqi Government Shut Down Internet to... Prevent Exam Cheating - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:41:47] <exec> 08└─A year after Iraqi officials ordered the shutdown of Internet access in nearly a quarter of the country...
[03:41:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03rst [2175] (Score:1) 025:00 am? - 06Iraqi Government Shut Down Internet to... Prevent Exam Cheating - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:41:49] <exec> 08└─Let's ignore all the issues about appropriateness for the moment. Why are they writing tests at 5:00 am? Wait a minute, forget that for a moment. How do they get their kids out of bed earily enough to get there? Mine only get up that early on Saturday mornings.
[03:41:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02First was obviously... - 06Iraqi Government Shut Down Internet to... Prevent Exam Cheating - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:41:50] <exec> 08└─A live test during a period of time they expected few people to be using the internet. The second test was no doubt on the monday when they actually ran the test. Unless of course they are on a 6 day a week school schedule, in which case saturday was the test, and monday was the results.
[03:42:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcross [4009] (Score:2) 02Re:What can be done? - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 1411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:42:06] <exec> 08└─On the other hand, what might happen is that the smarter companies will realize that getting people to use their APIs is a good way to stay relevant, and locking them down just ensures that eventually they'll be completely overtaken, instead of merely having open source projects take pieces of an ex...
[03:42:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcross [4009] (Score:2) 02Re:What can be done? - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 583 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:42:07] <exec> 08└─There's actually yet another reason open APIs will win. Say I'm a big enterprise writing software for the long haul, and I'm considering Java. Now I have to consider what would happen if for some reason Oracle decided to stop updating the JVM, or if it went bankrupt and the copyright fell into the h...
[03:42:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02This is clearly a conspiracy against canada - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:42:31] <exec> 08└─trying to delay Canada Day, slowly moving it closer to your independence day to assimilate us.
[03:44:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:Make them pay - 06How Television Beat the Internet - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:44:00] <exec> 08└─I think it's a question of the format (both being fantasy settings taking place before modern brands). Show me a movie/series that takes place in a modern or close future setting that don't relentlessly do the same thing, regardless of what channel they show up on or how much money is behind it.
[03:44:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I dont mind advertising but object to tracking - 06How Television Beat the Internet - 537 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:44:16] <exec> 08└─The cable companies are able to serve personalized ads based on the shows upyou watch. given the money in american politics I find that disturbing. I like watching dvds but would not dream of subscribing to cable TV. I use Tor to read my gmail. Ive been concerned about this stuff for year but got re...
[03:46:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:No, just...no - 06LGBT Rights Are Good for the Tech Industry, SF Pride Parade Chief Says - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:46:23] <exec> 08└─Being gay in many places of America means getting beaten. That means it's a secret one has to keep to themselves, resulting in the deprivation of many of life's pleasures. Do you really need examples of how heteros rub it in? Aren't you a fellow nerd who's gotten frustrated a time or two at Valentin...
[03:47:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Er, wtf - 06Man Shoots Down Neighbor's Hexacopter - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:47:13] <exec> 08└─The real life version of the 4chan "Are you fucking sorry" copypasta.
[03:47:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Er, wtf - 06Man Shoots Down Neighbor's Hexacopter - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:47:15] <exec> 08└─A Nerf football?
[03:48:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03penguinoid [5331] (Score:2) 02Re:Opposing hatred and violence - 06Activist Cuts Down Confederate Flag from SC Statehouse - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:48:57] <exec> 08└─If your going to attack me you better bring some real arguments to the table. Otherwise go back to the child's table and finish your veggies.
[03:48:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Opposing hatred and violence - 06Activist Cuts Down Confederate Flag from SC Statehouse - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:48:58] <exec> 08└─No that is a statement of fact. Bigotry is simply an intolerance of another persons opinion. And if being intolerant of racism is bigotry then I am guilty. And word of advice: Name calling is not an argument. It's pretty damn weak. Now, finish your veggies.
[03:48:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:Opposing hatred and violence - 06Activist Cuts Down Confederate Flag from SC Statehouse - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:49:00] <exec> 08└─OK, proof that LoRdTAW is a bigot: "The confederate flag was explicitly created to represent racial bigotry." -- LoRdTAW June 29, 08:34AM (#202753)
[03:49:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Opposing hatred and violence - 06Activist Cuts Down Confederate Flag from SC Statehouse - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:49:01] <exec> 08└─What does "politically correct" mean?
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[04:41:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02More MS slight of hand? - 06Uber Acquires Mapping Assets and Employees From Microsoft/Bing - 599 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:41:44] <exec> 08└─Seriously, this looks beyond Uber. They have exactly one trick, an app that gets you a car. Maps are already on every driver's phone, and every passenger's phone. They seem to have a global reach. That's impressive, but not on THIS scale. This has got to be one of the biggest stealth moves I've see...
[04:41:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:When all you have is a hammer - 06Iraqi Government Shut Down Internet to... Prevent Exam Cheating - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:41:56] <exec> 08└─On the other hand, why is a country which is about to be over-run by ISIS or subsumed into Iran worrying about exam cheating to the point of shutting down the phone system?
[04:42:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Re:What can be done? - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 4037 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:42:22] <exec> 08└─In today's landscape where a free software C API gives you just as much if not more cross platform compatibility than Java can promise (both are write once, test everywhere, esp. with hardware virtualization), the choice is even more slanted away from proprietary APIs. Really, can any CTO look inves...
[04:42:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Hope and change - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:42:24] <exec> 08└─There you go.
[04:42:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Verrilli should stay away from computers - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:42:26] <exec> 08└─Did anybody else read Verrilli's opinion? It's awful. He clearly did not bother to learn anything about what an API actually is. The whole thing is rather ignorant. He completely dismisses the comparison to Lotus based on nothing but his idiotic opinion that it's harder for a spreadsheet user to lea...
[04:44:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Make them pay - 06How Television Beat the Internet - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:44:19] <exec> 08└─I will ignore the fact that you completely ignored my point and indulge you by answering your question. While your definition of "relentless" may not be the same as mine, these all had subtle to no product placement: Utopia [imdb.com] Misfits [imdb.com] Humans [imdb.com] Sense8 [imdb.com] Being Huma...
[04:44:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02Re:End of the article - 06How Television Beat the Internet - 557 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:44:29] <exec> 08└─There's an old article, "The Submarine [paulgraham.com]" by Paul Graham that talks about just this. "Of the stories you read in traditional media that aren't about politics, crimes, or disasters, more than half probably come from PR firms." I wonder whose press hit from the big PR submarine this art...
[04:48:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pretty ironic - 06Activist Cuts Down Confederate Flag from SC Statehouse - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:48:26] <exec> 08└─So it can't be an official statement of the state that its people have the right to freedom of speech and expression?
[04:48:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pretty ironic - 06Activist Cuts Down Confederate Flag from SC Statehouse - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:48:47] <exec> 08└─The flag is literally an inanimate piece of cloth and is incapable of any treasonous acts.
[04:48:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Opposing hatred and violence - 06Activist Cuts Down Confederate Flag from SC Statehouse - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:48:59] <exec> 08└─In this case, The People of South Carolina. The woman that did this is from North Carolina.
[04:49:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:''someone else's property'' - 06Activist Cuts Down Confederate Flag from SC Statehouse - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:49:08] <exec> 08└─Your White Privilege is showing.
[04:49:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Opposing hatred and violence - 06Activist Cuts Down Confederate Flag from SC Statehouse - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:49:15] <exec> 08└─Trying to argue that the two are too different to compare is fallacious. Come on, I know you know this. It's illegal to damage or destroy anything that you don't own yourself, and you personally do not own public or government property. Therefore, it's illegal to damage or destroy public or governme...
[04:49:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Opposing hatred and violence - 06Activist Cuts Down Confederate Flag from SC Statehouse - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:49:25] <exec> 08└─Do you have any proof to back up that statement, or are you just using the logic "Confederate flag -> the 'south' -> slavery -> racism"?
[04:50:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nope, not for me - 06GitHub Announces Atom 1.0 - 3 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:50:12] <exec> 08└─:q!
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[05:41:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:More MS slight of hand? - 06Uber Acquires Mapping Assets and Employees From Microsoft/Bing - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:41:49] <exec> 08└─Uber wants another trick: replacing their drivers with driverless cars.
[05:42:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03citizenr [2737] (Score:1) 02Re:5:00 am? - 06Iraqi Government Shut Down Internet to... Prevent Exam Cheating - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:42:07] <exec> 08└─Kids wake up early to milk the sheep.
[05:42:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:2) 02Re:I still don't get it - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:42:51] <exec> 08└─Funny, how inconsistent sources are on the total number of leap seconds. If I understand correctly, a total of 35 seconds have already been added, because the first leap second in 1972 was in fact 10 seconds. Ah, Wiki [wikipedia.org] tends to agree. At 7.66 km/s the ISS would already be 268 km behin...
[05:42:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:2) 02Re:Hrm ... - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:42:53] <exec> 08└─I wouldn't worry to much, but if you encounter any problems, I'm sure it would make a nice story! BTW, Google [blogspot.se] has come up with it's own solution fo fix the leap seconds, by slowing down server time.
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[06:41:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:3, Insightful) 02USA today at a glance - 06US Supreme Court Strikes Down New Anti-Pollution Rules - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:41:40] <exec> 08└─We can't afford to live better, it's too expensive. Next in the line (already started): we can't afford to live as well as until today, it's too expensive What's after: we can't all afford to live, let's start a war??? Says who? Well... the industry and 21 Republican-led states
[06:41:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:USA today at a glance - 06US Supreme Court Strikes Down New Anti-Pollution Rules - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:41:41] <exec> 08└─Only the US considers property and money more important than life. Whether it's letting people kill others to defend property or letting major corporations pollute rather than pay to be clean, in America life is worth little. Sorta like slavery... Good thing you all have guns.
[06:41:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:More MS slight of hand? - 06Uber Acquires Mapping Assets and Employees From Microsoft/Bing - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:41:52] <exec> 08└─Most likely it's because they see they can no longer depend on Google maps for decent routing because Larry and Sergey have turned the whole operation over to scriptkiddies on ecstasy binges.
[06:41:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:More MS slight of hand? - 06Uber Acquires Mapping Assets and Employees From Microsoft/Bing - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:41:53] <exec> 08└─I dono, Google routing is pretty good, certainly better than starting your own mapping company from scratch. There are about 5 companies lining up to pick the bones of Nokia's mapping service (Here) [here.com].
[06:42:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score:1) 02Re:I still don't get it - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:42:49] <exec> 08└─Lunchtime doubly so.
[06:43:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03citizenr [2737] (Score:1) 02meanwhile in civilised Europe - 06Australian Regulator Trying to Cut Telecoms Prices - 519 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:43:18] <exec> 08└─Meanwhile in civilised Europe with real competition ISPs regularly DOUBLE cable/DSL speeds with no additional charge _every couple of years_. Because bandwidth is CHEAP once you have infrastructure in place. Also we dont have any data caps, unlike Australia where National Fiberoptic Broadband Networ...
[06:47:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kharnynb [5468] (Score:1) 02Re:No, just...no - 06LGBT Rights Are Good for the Tech Industry, SF Pride Parade Chief Says - 507 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:47:14] <exec> 08└─Nope, you shouldn't be allowed to just randomly refuse service to people, you should only be allowed not to provide a specific service(rainbow 2 men weddingcake, swastika tattoo, etc.). Unless you want to go back to the lovely days of "we don't serve negroes"? From a business point of view it really...
[06:49:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Opposing hatred and violence - 06Activist Cuts Down Confederate Flag from SC Statehouse - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:49:29] <exec> 08└─They're not the same, but The People have collective ownership of that property. It's not one or a few person's job to take it down.
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[07:41:46] <exec> 08└─Only the US considers property and money more important than life.
[07:41:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:USA today at a glance - 06US Supreme Court Strikes Down New Anti-Pollution Rules - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:47] <exec> 08└─Only the US considers property and money more important than life. Whether it's letting people kill others to defend property or letting major corporations pollute rather than pay to be clean, in America life is worth little. Sorta like slavery... Good thing you all have guns.
[07:41:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:On a roll - 06US Supreme Court Strikes Down New Anti-Pollution Rules - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:50] <exec> 08└─Not sure what the plan is here
[07:41:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:On a roll - 06US Supreme Court Strikes Down New Anti-Pollution Rules - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:52] <exec> 08└─Exactly! A second very stupid SCOTUS decision on SN front page today... fucking imbeciles...
[07:41:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Improperly closed tag again? - 06US Supreme Court Strikes Down New Anti-Pollution Rules - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:41:54] <exec> 08└─The text after the article is a bit smaller both on the front page and on the comments.
[07:41:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedBear [1734] (Score:2) 02One step forward... - 06US Supreme Court Strikes Down New Anti-Pollution Rules - 666 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:41:55] <exec> 08└─It's almost like after upholding the Affordable Care Act and striking down discrimination against same-sex marriage they feel like they need to make several really dumb decisions to compensate. It's sure going to be expensive to build hermetically sealed underground chambers for the human race to li...
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[07:41:57] <exec> 08└─Coal will still die. Eventually.
[07:42:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:More MS slight of hand? - 06Uber Acquires Mapping Assets and Employees From Microsoft/Bing - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:06] <exec> 08└─Seriously, this looks beyond Uber.
[07:42:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:When all you have is a hammer - 06Iraqi Government Shut Down Internet to... Prevent Exam Cheating - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:18] <exec> 08└─Because they need someone who's smart enough to learn how to drive a camel.
[07:42:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hope and change - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:49] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_powers [wikipedia.org] There you go.
[07:42:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02Re:Verrilli should stay away from computers - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:51] <exec> 08└─it's harder for a spreadsheet user to learn a new set of menus than it is for a programmer to learn a new API. What kind of logic is that?
[07:42:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Verrilli should stay away from computers - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 433 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:53] <exec> 08└─The average spreadsheet user is likely to stare at the new spreadsheet menus blankly until someone holds their hand and shows them where to click. And shows them again later that day, and the next day, and so on... Until the boss decides that they're incompetent at their job and tells them that they...
[07:43:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03pkrasimirov [3358] (Score:2) 02Re:Hrm ... - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:15] <exec> 08└─Solaris has this for a long time: date(1) ... -a [ - ] sss.fff Slowly adjust the time by sss.fff seconds (fff represents fractions of a second). This adjustment can be positive or negative. The system's clock is sped up or slowed down until it has drifted by the number of seconds sp...
[07:44:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not something to be proud of - 06Germany's Oldest Remaining Nuclear Plant Shuts Down - 460 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:21] <exec> 08└─My power station had two very old Magnox reactors. The whole power station could put out a maximum of 246MWe on the coldest days. At the height of summer it could do about 242MWe. It was on a tidal estuary and warmed the water up by 9C. The fish were very happy there. Output varied sinusoidally with...
[07:45:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02An advertiser point of view. - 06How Television Beat the Internet - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:45:09] <exec> 08└─Apparently this was written from an advertisers point of view. So, for advertisers, TV is winning. For users, the internet is winning. Another ten years, and all the advertisers will have moved to TV, and all the users have moved to the internet, and finally we can avoid seeing ads.
[07:45:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Out of the loop but try Hastie & Tibshirani - 06Ask Soylent: Beginning in Artificial Intelligence Methods - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:26] <exec> 08└─You are an ignorant asshat
[07:45:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:YES! - 06Ask Soylent: Beginning in Artificial Intelligence Methods - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:39] <exec> 08└─There is a difference between knowing and checking assumptions and knowing proofs of a method.
[07:50:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Where is the manifesto? - 06GitHub Announces Atom 1.0 - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:43] <exec> 08└─If they only make their manifesto in video it already tells you everything you need to know: it's for hipsters and douchebags... And lo and behold: it's mac only, so QED.
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[08:41:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02TV without sports spam then? - 06Discovery Outbids National Broadcasters for Olympics - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:41:40] <exec> 08└─So that means ordinary TV channels will not be able to spam people with sports? ;)
[08:41:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:USA today at a glance - 06US Supreme Court Strikes Down New Anti-Pollution Rules - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:41:52] <exec> 08└─So, your argument can be broken up into two parts: 1) But others do it, too! So? This isn't about them. Now that we've dispensed with that completely irrelevant crap, let's get on to: 2) They can try again. And the courts will be used again, and again, until the interests have watered down the rules...
[08:41:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:One step forward... - 06US Supreme Court Strikes Down New Anti-Pollution Rules - 1212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:41:59] <exec> 08└─Not exactly. But just like those decisions last week it is another case of the Court making law with only the most tenuous connection to their original function of traditional 'judging' cases based on obsolete concepts like the Constitution and what laws actually say. Congress needs to look around a...
[08:42:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Here's the thing - 06US Supreme Court Strikes Down New Anti-Pollution Rules - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:42:02] <exec> 08└─Profits are private, costs are socialized. Welcome to crony capitalism!
[08:42:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03bootsy [3440] (Score:2) 02Bing MAPS API is actually very good - 06Uber Acquires Mapping Assets and Employees From Microsoft/Bing - 1020 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:42:14] <exec> 08└─I can't believe I am typing this but I have to admit the Bing MAPS API for use in .Net GUIs is really very good. Most large corporations already have a site wide MS License so they can plug it into their applications at no cost ( yes terms can change but as far as commercial software licenses go it...
[08:43:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheLink [332] (Score:2) 02Re:I still don't get it - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 650 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:43:23] <exec> 08└─What I want is a UTC-like clock where there aren't any leap seconds at all but synchronization is done by having some seconds taking a bit longer. Most programs can handle that better than they can handle leap seconds - to them it's just like suddenly the CPU got faster - most modern programs should...
[08:43:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hrm ... - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 614 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:43:29] <exec> 08└─From the ntpdate man page: [unix.com] OPTIONS [...] -B Force the time to always be slewed using the adjtime() system call, even if the measured offset is greater than +-128 ms. The default is to step the time using settimeofda...
[08:43:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:2) 02impacts - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 672 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:43:31] <exec> 08└─Interesting observation! I truly never thought to be concerned for our own systems' stability, even though I was well aware of problems that resulted as a result of the 2012 leap-second. A quick search reveals these nuggets: ‘Leap Second’ Bug Wreaks Havoc Across Web" [wired.com] and Leap second...
[08:43:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Miscalibration - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:43:36] <exec> 08└─It turns out that when official time was switched from astronomical time to atomic time, the atomic second was slightly miscalibrated. Because of this miscalibration, 26 positive leap seconds have been added since 1972. A proper calibration would have resulted in both positive and negative leap seco...
[08:43:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Typo? - 06Australian Regulator Trying to Cut Telecoms Prices - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:43:47] <exec> 08└─Because percents have nothing to do with cents, at least for those of us who are living elsewhere.
[08:44:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's not really the wisest course - 06Germany's Oldest Remaining Nuclear Plant Shuts Down - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:44:32] <exec> 08└─Yeah, and the floor does wonders for stopping a free fall. So what is the point in parachutes?
[08:45:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheLink [332] (Score:2) 02Re:Alternative approach to intelligence. - 06Ask Soylent: Beginning in Artificial Intelligence Methods - 643 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:45:49] <exec> 08└─You miss the point[1]. The point about 90% etc is about understanding. If your simulation of the solar system is 10% off then you probably don't understand it so well and you need a new theory. So if your simulation of a testate amoeba is 10% off then you probably don't understand it so well either....
[08:45:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:YES! - 06Ask Soylent: Beginning in Artificial Intelligence Methods - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:45:59] <exec> 08└─I've seen people repartition datasets into training/testing, over and over, until the train and test groups gave the desired outcome...
[08:46:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Resources + I'm not sure the approach is good - 06Ask Soylent: Beginning in Artificial Intelligence Methods - 1597 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:46:01] <exec> 08└─Like others said, keep in mind the difference between machine learning and artificial intelligence. They're not the same, and neither is one a subset of the other. ---------------------------------------------- That being said, I have found this online course very very helpful https://www.coursera.o...
[08:46:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Re:Resources + I'm not sure the approach is good - 06Ask Soylent: Beginning in Artificial Intelligence Methods - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:46:03] <exec> 08└─Please forgive any errors in the previous post: my typoing skills are showing.
[08:47:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fuck gay rights - 06LGBT Rights Are Good for the Tech Industry, SF Pride Parade Chief Says - 690 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:06] <exec> 08└─I prefer viewing them as abstract ideals, of which our mortal and fallible minds can only make more or less educated guesses about what they are. Under this model, whether a deed is right or wrong, doesn't depend on whom you are asking about it nor what are the current ideals of the society judging...
[08:47:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck gay rights - 06LGBT Rights Are Good for the Tech Industry, SF Pride Parade Chief Says - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:15] <exec> 08└─You don't seem to understand what "gay rights" are. They are the same basic rights that straight people have, but which were previously denied to gay people. They are not asking for anything extra, just equality.
[08:47:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:Tolerance is an indication of the society itsel - 06LGBT Rights Are Good for the Tech Industry, SF Pride Parade Chief Says - 424 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:47:21] <exec> 08└─Tolerance only applies to things you can't change, like your sexual orientation, ethnicity, gender etc. It doesn't apply to stupid ideas and beliefs, which are fair targets for criticism and a certain degree of intolerance. Evangelical Christians, Republicans and what I presume you mean to be "white...
[08:52:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Re:Bringing 3d World Wages Home ... - 06French Taxi Drivers Vandalize France to Protest Uber - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:52:52] <exec> 08└─Indeed - I've used Man With A Van services on many occasions, I keep one guy's card on my kitchen door because he's specially insured and experienced in transporting works of art.
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[09:41:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02... and sports without an audience - 06Discovery Outbids National Broadcasters for Olympics - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:41:43] <exec> 08└─And it also means that only a fraction of the population will be able to watch the games - unless, of course, you want to 'subscribe' to Discovery.
[09:41:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03bootsy [3440] (Score:2) 02UK Law means it has to be on free to air - 06Discovery Outbids National Broadcasters for Olympics - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:41:44] <exec> 08└─The Olympics is a protected event under UK Broadcasting regulations so it has to appear on free to air aka terrestial television. That means that either Discovery have to buy a free view channel or they lease it back to the main UK broadcasters. I personally won't have a problem with the BBC not dis...
[09:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Make them pay - 06How Television Beat the Internet - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:45:16] <exec> 08└─You could simply inject random brand names in the middle of the Valyrian parts. Imagine if "coke" had been the word for "fight", for example.
[09:45:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Out of the loop but try Hastie & Tibshirani - 06Ask Soylent: Beginning in Artificial Intelligence Methods - 922 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:45:52] <exec> 08└─Different AC. The above is true, only a very small percentage of people doing medical research (I include neuroscience here) know calculus, or much math at all. Even basic stats concepts, logic, and philosophy of science are all rare. It is not good, they have trained an army of lab techs who have t...
[09:45:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Alternative approach to intelligence. - 06Ask Soylent: Beginning in Artificial Intelligence Methods - 855 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:45:58] <exec> 08└─A lot of this stuff does appear simple and was figured out 1900-1950 but goes largely ignored. Check out what this guy has been doing: More than a century has passed since Ramón y Cajal presented a set of fundamental biological laws of neuronal branching. He described how the shape of the core elem...
[09:46:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Learn to program - 06Ask Soylent: Beginning in Artificial Intelligence Methods - 517 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:46:11] <exec> 08└─I would just learn to program in any language, if you don't know how already. It is much easier to explore the tool that way and then go learn the math later, at least it was for me (I learned R). Also, remember that machine learning isn't science. It's empirical curve fitting. This is a useful firs...
[09:46:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Up To.... - 06Ransomware-Installing Exploit Kit Targets Flash Remote Code Execution - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:26] <exec> 08└─I have concluded that he's pulling figures up to his arse.
[09:47:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck gay rights - 06LGBT Rights Are Good for the Tech Industry, SF Pride Parade Chief Says - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:47:09] <exec> 08└─Am I sure about that? Yes I am. And apparently you are too. All those things you list are examples of *not* making the right choices. You're just reiterating my point.
[09:51:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03dr_barnowl [1568] (Score:1) 02Re:I thought github just hosted the repositories? - 06GitHub Announces Atom 1.0 - 1304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:51:24] <exec> 08└─I like the idea - I just don't like it's lack of maturity. My daily driver editor at the moment is Komodo Edit, because it has a dark theme, a passable Vim keybinding, and it makes a lot of the things you use rarely in Vim but are kinda powerful a bit easier by having GUI dialogs that walk you throu...
[09:52:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Re:Bringing 3d World Wages Home ... - 06French Taxi Drivers Vandalize France to Protest Uber - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:52:58] <exec> 08└─In the UK, most drivers own their vehicles and banks are happy to advance business loans to new drivers once they're licensed.
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[10:41:58] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03bradley13 [3053] 02Isn't this the Internet age? - 06Discovery Outbids National Broadcasters for Olympics - 1221 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:41:59] <exec> 08└─I cannot stand - hate - absolutely detest - the television coverage of the Olympics. They only show the most popular sports, often the coverage is so chopped up that you often can't really follow any single event, most of the actual broadcast time is wasted on crappily done background stories, and,...
[10:41:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Could have been worse! - 06Discovery Outbids National Broadcasters for Olympics - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:42:00] <exec> 08└─Just think if the History(not) Channel had gotten the bid! What would it be? Hitler's loss at the Olympics played over and over again, with explosions?
[10:42:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:USA today at a glance - 06US Supreme Court Strikes Down New Anti-Pollution Rules - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:42:13] <exec> 08└─Your argument started with "only the US...", so it does matter what other countries do because it both makes your argument wrong and you an idiot.
[10:43:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02And the hits keep rolling out of the SCOTUS - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:43:26] <exec> 08└─These people are off the rails lately...
[10:43:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bob_super [1357] 02Unless i got the numbers backwards... - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 175 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:43:36] <exec> 08└─Stay away from West-coast highways on Tuesday at 5PM. Not only because you should never be on a West Coast highway at 5PM, but because GPS-crash crashes are a spectator sport.
[10:53:29] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03hemocyanin [186] 02Re:Bringing 3d World Wages Home ... - 06French Taxi Drivers Vandalize France to Protest Uber - 1282 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:53:30] <exec> 08└─I have no idea what the UK law on the subject is, but under any reasonable theory of agency, if a driver (as agent of employer) causes damage, the driver and the company would be liable. With Uber, who knows what the driver has for insurance and some insurance isn't going to pay out if the car is be...
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[11:42:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02if Spiders eat Brains - 06Spiders Ingest Nanotubes, Weave Silk Reinforced with Carbon - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:42:03] <exec> 08└─If spiders eat the brains of executed Chinese dissidents, do they shot web site comments more insightful than Zombie Mao's ghost?
[11:42:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:if Spiders eat Brains - 06Spiders Ingest Nanotubes, Weave Silk Reinforced with Carbon - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:42:04] <exec> 08└─Probably, but think if eats the brains of the Iraqi Information Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf or the brains of Putler, think of the probaganda posts that would create!
[11:42:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03threedigits [607] (Score:2) 02Cancer? What cancer? - 06Spiders Ingest Nanotubes, Weave Silk Reinforced with Carbon - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:42:05] <exec> 08└─No word indeed about that cancer thing, that is just Andy's attempt at humour. Better luck next time. Thanks for the article, though.
[11:42:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Re:Cancer? What cancer? - 06Spiders Ingest Nanotubes, Weave Silk Reinforced with Carbon - 1737 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:42:07] <exec> 08└─Actually, it was SirFinkus' idea (and I didn't check if there was any research on it - isn't that what editors are FOR?). Mine was a "your mom" joke, which is not something I usually rely on but I was really tired. Here's how it went down in the IRC last night: [20:53:56] <+cmn32480> hiya kids [20:...
[11:42:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Now all we have to do... - 06Spiders Ingest Nanotubes, Weave Silk Reinforced with Carbon - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:42:08] <exec> 08└─...is get the spiders radioactive somehow and have them bite people. For Science!
[11:42:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't this the Internet age? - 06Discovery Outbids National Broadcasters for Olympics - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:42:19] <exec> 08└─you could hear the event, but the commentators were gone. What a relief!
[11:42:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Could have been worse! - 06Discovery Outbids National Broadcasters for Olympics - 449 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:42:21] <exec> 08└─Discovery is pretty weird too, all they do is weird outdoor-ish reality TV, well, aside from mythbusters and now the olympics. Which of these tv shows is real on Discovery and which is fake: Buying the bayou Billy Bobs Gags to Riches Lords of the Car Hordes Vegas Rat Rods Yukon Men Big giant swords...
[11:42:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03penguinoid [5331] 02Re:USA today at a glance - 06US Supreme Court Strikes Down New Anti-Pollution Rules - 66 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:42:32] <exec> 08└─Only the US considers property and money more important than life.
[11:42:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rich [945] (Score:2) 02Re:More MS slight of hand? - 06Uber Acquires Mapping Assets and Employees From Microsoft/Bing - 1719 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:42:57] <exec> 08└─May it be that they have plainly too much money? From http://www.nytimes.com [nytimes.com] and a linked article, I read that the stakes are around $3bn now, and, "double up or quit", looking into raising their bet to...
[11:44:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03iwoloschin [3863] (Score:2) 02Re:I still don't get it - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:44:09] <exec> 08└─Are you actually going to notice it showing the extra second? I mean, literally, look away for a second and you miss it!
[11:46:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:Make them pay - 06How Television Beat the Internet - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:46:00] <exec> 08└─Well with the rampant product placement it is just a return to the old days [youtube.com].
[11:48:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No, just...no - 06LGBT Rights Are Good for the Tech Industry, SF Pride Parade Chief Says - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:48:47] <exec> 08└─And, you're absolutely right - there should be NO SEX in the workplace.
[11:50:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03lars_stefan_axelsson [3590] (Score:1) 02Re:Pretty ironic - 06Activist Cuts Down Confederate Flag from SC Statehouse - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:50:31] <exec> 08└─It works for Germany to ban the Nazi flag because freedom of speech isn't a sacrosanct ideal there. Here it is, and sustaining a culture of freedom is essential to the US.
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[12:41:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03scruffybeard [533] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't this the Internet age? - 06Discovery Outbids National Broadcasters for Olympics - 502 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:41:58] <exec> 08└─I am with you. If you are not into gymnastics or ice skating, you can forget about any comprehensive coverage, especially if your home country is knocked out in an early round. I don't understand why they don't break the licensing up into smaller pieces. Forgetting internet streaming for the moment,...
[12:42:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02USA today at a glance - 06US Supreme Court Strikes Down New Anti-Pollution Rules - 278 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:09] <exec> 08└─We can't afford to live better, it's too expensive. Next in the line (already started): we can't afford to live as well as until today, it's too expensive What's after: we can't all afford to live, let's start a war??? Says who? Well... the industry and 21 Republican-led states
[12:43:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03kaszz [4211] 02Re:Employment Changes - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 292 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:43:06] <exec> 08└─Yeah avoid the USA,, oh wait the trans Atlantic trade deal. The sue party may begin! So if you are a developer that wish to use an API of a company based in USA, keep out of that country. Bonus point for no compromised hardware-software by law, no really nasty letters, sue happy lawyers etc.
[12:43:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02I call BS! - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 1935 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:27] <exec> 08└─I know some in the FOSS community (for reasons unknown, after all with each release on Android Google puts more and more behind the Playwall [arstechnica.com] and they have flat out refused to allow GPL V3 pretty much anywhere) but AFAIK MSFT has never tried to sue Wine or Crossover for that matter,...
[12:43:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Ignore the ruling. Kill if they sue you - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:28] <exec> 08└─Torture them to death if they sue you. Ignore this ruling like you ignore software patents.
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[13:42:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonTechie [2275] (Score:2) 02SO ? - 06Microsoft Outsourcing Online Ad Management to AOL - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:32] <exec> 08└─So, is AOL going to, once again, start sending CDs (or DVDs) with Microsoft ad campaigns ?
[13:42:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:SO ? - 06Microsoft Outsourcing Online Ad Management to AOL - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:34] <exec> 08└─AOL could return the USPS to profitability and halt global warming by carpeting the earth with DVDs shiny side up.
[13:42:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:SO ? - 06Microsoft Outsourcing Online Ad Management to AOL - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:35] <exec> 08└─Only for AOL Broadband powered by its new corporate overlord, Verizon. Take that, Time-Warner.
[13:42:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02It's oddly impressive - 06Microsoft Outsourcing Online Ad Management to AOL - 475 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:36] <exec> 08└─The reason for AOL to exist has been dead for over a decade now, and you would have thought they would have gone the way of Compuserve and the gazillions of other dial-up ISPs that are now out of business and mostly forgotten. And yet somehow they've been able to keep on shuffling on without anythin...
[13:42:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's oddly impressive - 06Microsoft Outsourcing Online Ad Management to AOL - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:38] <exec> 08└─The dinosaurs evolved into today's birds, so AOL can morph into Microsoft's online ad agency, taking over from the failed aQuantive/Razorfish acquisition. But what happens to TechCrunch and HuffPo?
[13:42:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Re:Cancer? What cancer? - 06Spiders Ingest Nanotubes, Weave Silk Reinforced with Carbon - 471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:50] <exec> 08└─Do spiders even live long enough to develop cancer? What is the average life expectancy of a spider? There probably isn't enough time for them to develop cancer under their normal lifespan. So it's probably safe to feed them some delicious nanotubes, perhaps PETA should have a campaign. But I doubt...
[13:42:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Stardaemon [4294] (Score:1) 02Nitpicking, carbon fibers != Kevlar - 06Spiders Ingest Nanotubes, Weave Silk Reinforced with Carbon - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:52] <exec> 08└─From the summary: This combination of strength and ductility makes spider silk extremely tough, matching the toughness of state-of-the-art carbon fibers such as Kevlar.This combination of strength and ductility makes spider silk extremely tough, matching the toughness of state-of-the-art carbon fibe...
[13:42:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nitpicking, carbon fibers != Kevlar - 06Spiders Ingest Nanotubes, Weave Silk Reinforced with Carbon - 548 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:42:54] <exec> 08└─There are a number of high performance non-metallic fibers in production, Spectra is another one, http://www.honeywell-advancedfibersandcomposites.com [honeywell-advancedfibersandcomposites.com] Each has different uses, for example, I believe it is very difficult to bond to...
[13:43:05] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bootsy [3440] 02UK Law means it has to be on free to air - 06Discovery Outbids National Broadcasters for Olympics - 404 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:43:05] <exec> 08└─The Olympics is a protected event under UK Broadcasting regulations so it has to appear on free to air aka terrestial television. That means that either Discovery have to buy a free view channel or they lease it back to the main UK broadcasters. I personally won't have a problem with the BBC not dis...
[13:43:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:USA today at a glance - 06US Supreme Court Strikes Down New Anti-Pollution Rules - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:25] <exec> 08└─I don't always see eye to eye with your comments but this was one hell of a good one. Thanks for breaking it down and making me feel that this wasn't going to release an onslaught of stupid laws.
[13:43:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03n1 [993] (Score:2) 02Re:More MS slight of hand? - 06Uber Acquires Mapping Assets and Employees From Microsoft/Bing - 500 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:50] <exec> 08└─I don't know the grand strategy Uber is working on, but i think there's a comment worth considering when reading most Uber stories. As reported by Forbes [forbes.com]: Uber CEO Travis Kalanick is an unapologetic controversialist, and when it comes to what he intends to do to the automotive industry...
[13:44:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:When all you have is a hammer - 06Iraqi Government Shut Down Internet to... Prevent Exam Cheating - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:07] <exec> 08└─Same thing they are doing in some theatre's in the US: put up signal blockers and suppress anything on all spectra...
[13:44:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02peer to peer? - 06Iraqi Government Shut Down Internet to... Prevent Exam Cheating - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:44:15] <exec> 08└─Now that the kids know they will lose internet access during exam time, have they started to use some mesh network or peer-peer software on their phones?
[13:44:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:And the hits keep rolling out of the SCOTUS - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:50] <exec> 08└─I know, right...? Especially Scalia is sounding more and more like he's in touch with reality less and less...
[13:45:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03hubie [1068] (Score:2) 02Re:dams - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:26] <exec> 08└─The dam effect is minimal [nasa.gov]. Earthquakes [nasa.gov] have a much larger effect on the Earth's moment of inertia. For what it's worth, the dams are located above sea level so loading them with water moves mass away from the Earth's center of mass and thus slow the Earth rotation.
[13:45:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What to do with your extra second - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:29] <exec> 08└─How about you open multiple tabs, you sissy
[13:47:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:An advertiser point of view. - 06How Television Beat the Internet - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:47:37] <exec> 08└─Because there are so much less ads on the internet than on tv!
[13:50:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:Er, wtf - 06Man Shoots Down Neighbor's Hexacopter - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:50:58] <exec> 08└─I think the deal is with taking law into his own hands. If your neighbor is infringing your rights, call the cops. That is what you pay them for.
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[14:42:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:SO ? - 06Microsoft Outsourcing Online Ad Management to AOL - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:42:12] <exec> 08└─What's a CD, grandpa?
[14:42:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:SO ? - 06Microsoft Outsourcing Online Ad Management to AOL - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:42:14] <exec> 08└─Certificate of Deposit. Now get off my lawn.
[14:42:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's oddly impressive - 06Microsoft Outsourcing Online Ad Management to AOL - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:42:18] <exec> 08└─HuffPo becomes HuffPoo.
[14:42:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Perfect business school case study - 06Microsoft Outsourcing Online Ad Management to AOL - 772 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:19] <exec> 08└─Of why corporations outsource non-core activities. In theory, Microsoft can save big money, and more importantly, retain exclusive control over data analysis, if they continued to do the ad placement in house. The problem was that they couldn't attract top talent to work in that segment of "Devices...
[14:42:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Perfect business school case study - 06Microsoft Outsourcing Online Ad Management to AOL - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:42:21] <exec> 08└─Except that Microsoft wants this to be a core revenue stream. They and Apple want to be Google, at least when it comes to monetizing the eyeballs they control. Ignoring all that for just a second...why they would tap AOL for this is beyond me.
[14:42:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Now all we have to do... - 06Spiders Ingest Nanotubes, Weave Silk Reinforced with Carbon - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:42:33] <exec> 08└─If spraying the spiders with naked carbon nano got to these spectacular results, imagine how much better would be to spray them with spider web reinforced with carbon nanotubes.
[14:44:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03e_armadillo [3695] 02Yay! - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 28 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:44:44] <exec> 08└─I get to sleep in Wednesday!
[14:45:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheUnknownCoder [2962] (Score:1) 02Re:What to do with your extra second - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:09] <exec> 08└─These are actually pretty good! =)
[14:47:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score:1) 02Confused thinking - 06How Television Beat the Internet - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:06] <exec> 08└─My thought as well. TFS mentions two aspects: TV vs. internet and advertisment driven vs. payed. TFS suggests that the combination internet (as in streaming)/payed seems a viable business model but interprets this as TV/payed.
[14:47:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score:1) 02Re:Resources + I'm not sure the approach is good - 06Ask Soylent: Beginning in Artificial Intelligence Methods - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:48] <exec> 08└─There is a course by one of the deep learning protagonists https://www.coursera.org [coursera.org]
[14:47:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03erik.erikson [4859] (Score:1) 02Rethinking Innateness - 06Ask Soylent: Beginning in Artificial Intelligence Methods - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:47:51] <exec> 08└─This is where I spent my academic currency/time. I would strongly suggest that you read Rethinking Innateness [https://books.google.com/books?id=vELaRu_MrwoC]. The field is stupid with big fancy names for minor alterations of the base learning rules or network generation/structuring strategies. The...
[14:49:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck gay rights - 06LGBT Rights Are Good for the Tech Industry, SF Pride Parade Chief Says - 853 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:49:08] <exec> 08└─The government certainly enforces most contracts, but in marriage the government is not only the enforcer, it is also an actual party to the contract, and sets the terms of the contract. If it was simply a contract between you and the spouse, gay marriage would never be an issue. Contract with whoev...
[14:50:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Er, wtf - 06Man Shoots Down Neighbor's Hexacopter - 572 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:50:25] <exec> 08└─Hah, okay. I don't think everyone gets to be Judge Dredd. If you take matters into your own hands it has to at least make sense. As in, the police couldn't get here in time. In that case you should always take matters into your own hands. But a guy flying a drone on your property is not any kind of...
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[15:41:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheLink [332] (Score:2) 02Better to do other "tech trees" first - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 905 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:41:35] <exec> 08└─I think that we should leave some "tech trees" for later till society is ready to deal with the consequences. Otherwise the harm may outweigh the benefits. Resources in this world are limited. I'd personally think we should work on stuff like the "space colony" tech tree while we still have fossil f...
[15:41:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Better to do other - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:41:36] <exec> 08└─No, and we didn't have to fly before we developed nuclear power. That doesn't mean people should've been shouting at the Wright brothers to stop their research.
[15:41:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Absoluely moronic - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 450 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:41:37] <exec> 08└─Roping off an entire branch medical science as what man is not meant to know is exactly the sort of playing god that they seek to stop. They're going to be killing people for the sake of imagined science fiction plots, while medical ethics already forbids unnecessary surgery and treatment. That leav...
[15:42:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Cancer? What cancer? - 06Spiders Ingest Nanotubes, Weave Silk Reinforced with Carbon - 416 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:42:07] <exec> 08└─Age has little to do with it, number of cell divisions is the issue. Every time the cells divide you have the possibility of damage that will cause cancer. You can damage DNA at other times, but it tends to be more likely to be repaired correctly than if it's just one strand. Humans have cells diein...
[15:42:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cancer? What cancer? - 06Spiders Ingest Nanotubes, Weave Silk Reinforced with Carbon - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:42:08] <exec> 08└─Age has little to do with it, number of cell divisions is the issue.
[15:42:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Now all we have to do... - 06Spiders Ingest Nanotubes, Weave Silk Reinforced with Carbon - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:42:11] <exec> 08└─you go girl!
[15:42:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02see good in bad! - 06US Supreme Court Strikes Down New Anti-Pollution Rules - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:42:53] <exec> 08└─in other news syphilis won't be rising: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[15:44:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:I still don't get it - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:44:25] <exec> 08└─> Who wants their clock to ever show something like "23:59:60" ? Someone who likes the idea that the time is right? The Incas had the whole planetary rotation figured out hundreds of years ago. By introducing amazingly better precision in the measurement of time, should we have to give up on the bas...
[15:51:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Opposing Federal Conquest - 06Activist Cuts Down Confederate Flag from SC Statehouse - 419 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:51:19] <exec> 08└─>The rest of the South actually won when the slavers lost. Well, that might have been true, if not for the carpet-baggers and other exploitation levied against the South following their defeat. Not to mention all the friends and family who lost their lives after being drafted by the Confederate army...
[15:52:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Opposing hatred and violence - 06Activist Cuts Down Confederate Flag from SC Statehouse - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:52:00] <exec> 08└─> there's precedent for flag-burning being constitutionally-protected free speech There is. But without checking I strongly suspect it's limited to burning flags that YOU own - burning a flag owned by someone else is, at the very least, destruction of property. Just like burning someone's bedsheets...
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[16:41:39] <exec> 08└─Flying didn't raise any ethical questions, did it?
[16:41:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Better to do other - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:41:40] <exec> 08└─Maybe not flight, but certainly nuclear power. Or chemotherapy. So did the Internet. The number of technologies that idiots would ban because of imagined problems is huge.
[16:41:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:Better to do other - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 551 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:41:41] <exec> 08└─Humanity as it is today can barely handle nuclear power, and the internet is sufficiently advanced technology which is indistinguishable from magic. I don't think we're ready for designer babies. My main concerns are economical. The wealthy elite Masters of the Universe already have enough tools to...
[16:41:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Better to do other - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:41:43] <exec> 08└─So no one can have nice things unless everyone can have nice things? If we followed that approach we'd never have advanced out of the stone age.
[16:41:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:2) 02Re:Better to do other - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:41:45] <exec> 08└─If God had meant for Man to fly he would have given us wings.
[16:41:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Better to do other - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:41:46] <exec> 08└─will the government ban and arrest amateur biology lab users?
[16:41:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03scruffybeard [533] (Score:2) 02Re:Better to do other - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:41:48] <exec> 08└─This is just a restriction on federal funding. The lab setup in your mom's basement is free to explore any kind of research you want.
[16:41:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03deathlyslow [2818] (Score:1) 02Re:Absoluely moronic - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:41:49] <exec> 08└─How does it target only people with treatable disorders? If you are meaning creating them to then harvest the stem cells I can sort of understand it, but if you aren't I don't see the connection beyond tweaking an embryo so the then person never the get the disease in the first place. The last I che...
[16:41:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Absoluely moronic - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 449 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:41:51] <exec> 08└─In this particular case, we're talking about maternal inherited mitochondrial disorders. These diseases are 95% or more heritable. And they're treatable by just using a different host egg for the genetic information from the mother and father. No more complicated than standard in vitro fertilizatio...
[16:41:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:Absoluely moronic - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:41:53] <exec> 08└─medical ethics already forbids unnecessary surgery and treatment
[16:41:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Absoluely moronic - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 461 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:41:55] <exec> 08└─Let's not get into the whole "religious bullshit tends to give exemptions to good ethical practices" and "preventative care is care" squabbles. Instead, let's say you're approximately right, but also focusing on an extreme red herring. We can also talk about adult voluntary surgeries, like plastic s...
[16:41:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02service level agreement - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 600 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:41:56] <exec> 08└─i guess "the race is one" to find the best mitochondrial DNA and then off to that james bond island clinic in cuba. i also hope that the naked motherly DNA that is being transferred into the mitochondria-healthy dna-less egg isn't pre-programmed to make the same mistakes again .. thus again leading...
[16:41:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:service level agreement - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 534 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:41:58] <exec> 08└─The thing you're describing are called "mutations". And they're mostly random. And frequently fatal before even one cellular division. Getting the exact same (survivable until birth) mitochondrial mutations that you replaced would be a one in 1.5698423615949392083076736687661e+9994 shot. i.e. not go...
[16:41:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:service level agreement - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:42:00] <exec> 08└─would be a one in 1.5698423615949392083076736687661e+9994 shot.
[16:42:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:service level agreement - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:42:01] <exec> 08└─It's the 4^x where x is the number of base pairs(16,600) in the mitochondrial genome. Now, you can spot that that number actually cuts off at 3 sig-figs. Buuuuuuuuuuuuut. The bigger problem is the e+9994, actually. Because a lot of these mutations actually involve multiple changed base pairs. I coul...
[16:42:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03kanweg [4737] (Score:1) 02Sigh - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 1202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:42:03] <exec> 08└─"In an unusual twist, the bill—introduced on June 17—would also direct the FDA to create a committee that includes religious experts" How is religious expert defined? 1) a religious person, or 2) someone who recognizes that there are many religions, that they can't be all true, that thus at most...
[16:42:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Sigh - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:42:04] <exec> 08└─Defined as a representatives for large religious groups that can make a lot of people vote like they tell them too .. :P (unless they get a nice donation..)
[16:42:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score:2) 02Re:Sigh - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:42:06] <exec> 08└─Separation of Church and State essentially means any such legislation would (should...) immediately be voided by the courts. Specifically requiring religious insight on a Federal committee is blatantly out of line.
[16:42:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:2) 02Great. - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:42:08] <exec> 08└─Just effin' great. Spending bill would also require religious experts to review recommendations for reproductive technique.
[16:42:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's oddly impressive - 06Microsoft Outsourcing Online Ad Management to AOL - 1778 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:42:15] <exec> 08└─There are still people out there using AOL every day. Their properties just do not carry the AOL brand name. Their land-line service is shrinking quickly. All of their other segments are growing. somehow they've been able to keep on shuffling on without anything resembling a flagship product or cust...
[16:42:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Satya Nadella's tombstone... - 06Microsoft Outsourcing Online Ad Management to AOL - 1687 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:42:18] <exec> 08└─So Satya Nadella's tombstone will have "outsource everything, open source the rest" after he destroys Microsoft. The idea is to outsource everything that isn't a core business function, but ... what is MS's core business now? I see a lot of heat out of MS these days, open sourcing this, supporting t...
[16:42:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cancer? What cancer? - 06Spiders Ingest Nanotubes, Weave Silk Reinforced with Carbon - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:42:32] <exec> 08└─Does that mean that naked mole rats are actually dwarf giant kaiju monsters? Hmm. Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
[16:42:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Type44Q [4347] (Score:0) 02So, clearly what we need is... - 06Spiders Ingest Nanotubes, Weave Silk Reinforced with Carbon - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:42:39] <exec> 08└─So, clearly what we need is a giant, genetically-engineered geosynchronous spider and we feed it asteroids.
[16:42:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't this the Internet age? - 06Discovery Outbids National Broadcasters for Olympics - 498 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:42:53] <exec> 08└─When the digital terrestrial HD channels started and people didn't really watch them yet, the first olympics (2000?) were available on them very lightly edited and often live. Used to hang out at a friend's place to watch them, because it was already unbearable to try to watch NBC's "ad-USA-ad-ad-ad...
[16:42:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Could have been worse! - 06Discovery Outbids National Broadcasters for Olympics - 503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:42:56] <exec> 08└─Hitler just pretended to loose as the real Hitler had already escaped with help of the aliens to the dark side of the moon to mastermind his time machine to go back and tell those ancient aliens that they better get rid of those anglosaxians in time, that is ancient time. Under the stadium there was...
[16:43:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02Re:USA today at a glance - 06US Supreme Court Strikes Down New Anti-Pollution Rules - 277 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:43:08] <exec> 08└─Only the US considers property and money more important than life. Whether it's letting people kill others to defend property or letting major corporations pollute rather than pay to be clean, in America life is worth little. Sorta like slavery... Good thing you all have guns.
[16:43:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Adamsjas [4507] (Score:2) 02Re:USA today at a glance - 06US Supreme Court Strikes Down New Anti-Pollution Rules - 632 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:43:11] <exec> 08└─If you re-read it, you will see his argument is exactly only part. The US regulations are already the tightest in the world for HG from coal plants, and they are being met. The rules aren't being watered down, in fact there is no indication of any change at all yet, other than that the EPA must take...
[16:43:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03fliptop [1666] (Score:2) 02Re:USA today at a glance - 06US Supreme Court Strikes Down New Anti-Pollution Rules - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:43:13] <exec> 08└─When setting the time frames, the EPA did not even allow for the manufacturing time for the equipment, they just supposed it into existence, which of course could not possibly be met regardless of the price
[16:43:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Here's the thing - 06US Supreme Court Strikes Down New Anti-Pollution Rules - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:43:24] <exec> 08└─> costs are socialized Actually, we need to repeal Obamacare to allow Private Insurers to deny lung-disease claims.
[16:44:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] 02Verrilli should stay away from computers - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 404 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:27] <exec> 08└─Did anybody else read Verrilli's opinion? It's awful. He clearly did not bother to learn anything about what an API actually is. The whole thing is rather ignorant. He completely dismisses the comparison to Lotus based on nothing but his idiotic opinion that it's harder for a spreadsheet user to lea...
[16:45:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Miscalibration - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:11] <exec> 08└─No, you are wrong. Leap seconds are required because the Earth rotation is slowing down. It has nothing to do with atomic clocks.
[16:45:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Putin-approved - 06Germany's Oldest Remaining Nuclear Plant Shuts Down - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:55] <exec> 08└─Fossil fuels are renewable too. It just takes a few million years to renew them. ;-)
[16:47:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Nuero-evolution fun. - 06Ask Soylent: Beginning in Artificial Intelligence Methods - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:47:49] <exec> 08└─This is not what you are looking for ..exactly, but it's pretty cool stuff and if you are not aware of it - you might want to be. . This youtube person have a quick video and links to related papers and such. Enjoy! . https://youtu.be [youtu.be]
[16:50:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Er, wtf - 06Man Shoots Down Neighbor's Hexacopter - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:50:19] <exec> 08└─Kind of hard to prove your claim unless caught in the act and that issue with custody of evidence etc.
[16:50:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tramii [920] (Score:2) 02Re:Er, wtf - 06Man Shoots Down Neighbor's Hexacopter - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:50:20] <exec> 08└─Oh, come on! You could film everything on your smartphone and then show it to the cops when they finally do show up. It's not rocket science!
[16:51:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pretty ironic - 06Activist Cuts Down Confederate Flag from SC Statehouse - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:51:27] <exec> 08└─The US flag already makes that statement.
[16:52:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Opposing hatred and violence - 06Activist Cuts Down Confederate Flag from SC Statehouse - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:52:28] <exec> 08└─You just answered your own question: Confederate flag -> the 'south' -> slavery -> racism. DUH! I suppose Americans are not only bad at geography but also their own history. Talk about bad at history, so many of them think the world is only a few thousand years old. No wonder why they are on a downs...
[16:53:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nope, not for me - 06GitHub Announces Atom 1.0 - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:53:20] <exec> 08└─Sorry, you forgot to leave insert mode first.
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[17:41:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:Better to do other - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 710 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:41:49] <exec> 08└─Not entirely. It's about a level of perhaps cultural evolution to understand the ethical implications of doing something, and I think that would involve a longer history showing empires rising and falling and perhaps a political evolution to a more equitable system. Don't get me wrong; the poor will...
[17:41:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Better to do other - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:41:50] <exec> 08└─> post-scarcity Scarcity is relative. And the more we advance as a society, the higher that bar is set.
[17:41:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Better to do other - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:41:53] <exec> 08└─Flying didn't raise any ethical questions, did it?
[17:41:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Better to do other - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:41:54] <exec> 08└─The Heavens are God's domain, humans should not be trying to imitate God by stepping into His domain!
[17:42:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Absoluely moronic - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 358 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:42:01] <exec> 08└─It is God's will that you suffer. God made you that way, therefore it is His will and you must suffer, for that is God's Plan™ for you. Similarly, it was God's will that you be raped, and since you were raped you MUST carry the child to term and spend the next 18+ years raising it, for it is God's...
[17:42:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Absoluely moronic - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 351 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:42:04] <exec> 08└─Since when does circumcision have to do with STDs? We have better hygene and medical treatments today, but historically problems like phimosis [wikipedia.org], balanoposthitis [wikipedia.org], and others were best treated with preventative measures like circumcision. I've never heard of circumcision...
[17:42:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:service level agreement - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:42:09] <exec> 08└─Now, you can spot that that number actually cuts off at 3 sig-figs.
[17:42:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sigh - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 351 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:42:14] <exec> 08└─There's a homeless shelter in my area that gets government funding that forces people to go to a Christian Church as a mandatory condition of staying there. If that doesn't say "violation of rights" I don't know what does. This budding Christian theocracy overthrowing our constitutional form of gove...
[17:42:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Life science will go on with- or without the USA - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 434 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:42:16] <exec> 08└─Great now other countries can a have a field day exploring research in this area at state funded universities. Dunno if the USA will be left behind but it sure doesn't help. Something similar is already approved in the UK: UK Approves "3 Parent Baby" Technique [iflscience.com] And China tend to have...
[17:43:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:USA today at a glance - 06US Supreme Court Strikes Down New Anti-Pollution Rules - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:43:31] <exec> 08└─"No one cares more about the air we breathe and the water we drink than the people who live here in along the Ohio River. However, there must be a balance between health regulation and excessive costs that would have a chilling impact on coal jobs and the cost of electricity in eastern and southeast...
[17:43:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:On a roll - 06US Supreme Court Strikes Down New Anti-Pollution Rules - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:43:34] <exec> 08└─No, there's a plan alright - "Profit as much as possible, no matter the cost to everyone who isn't us"
[17:43:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:More MS slight of hand? - 06Uber Acquires Mapping Assets and Employees From Microsoft/Bing - 398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:43:56] <exec> 08└─OpenStreetMap now includes a few routing engines and they generally do a better job than Google when I've tried them except that they don't have live traffic data. If you're going anywhere where the optimal route depends on traffic, then you need to have the relationship with the providers of this d...
[17:45:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:I still don't get it - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:19] <exec> 08└─how does a machine which just rebooted know what the time is". Trust me, it's a whole lot more complex than it sounds.
[17:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What to do with your extra second - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:32] <exec> 08└─Even with multiple tabs open, I can see only one at any time. Now multiple windows may work, but only if the collection is very small, because my monitor has only limited space.
[17:45:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Miscalibration - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:37] <exec> 08└─They are using the atomic clocks to slow the earth rotation down. It's all a conspiracy to make us work more per day!!!111eleven
[17:50:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Er, wtf - 06Man Shoots Down Neighbor's Hexacopter - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:50:46] <exec> 08└─Custody of evidence? how can they ensure you didn't make it up using your own drone? etc.
[17:51:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Er, wtf - 06Man Shoots Down Neighbor's Hexacopter - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:51:00] <exec> 08└─Can you really aim with precision of say 5 cm at a distance of 200 meters with that kind of "ammo" ? It got a large surface area and may be prone to turbulence.
[17:51:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Er, wtf - 06Man Shoots Down Neighbor's Hexacopter - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:51:01] <exec> 08└─Silly string : ) [wikipedia.org]
[17:52:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pretty ironic - 06Activist Cuts Down Confederate Flag from SC Statehouse - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:52:17] <exec> 08└─Your sophistic statement intentionally missed the word "symbol".
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[18:41:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02Ever read a "privacy" policy? - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 565 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:41:33] <exec> 08└─If you read a privacy policy - either online or the printed ones you sometimes get - they basically say in the most convoluted language possible that they can do anything they want with your personal information. They add so many loopholes and vague clauses about third parties and so on that whateve...
[18:41:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Ever read a - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 1040 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:41:34] <exec> 08└─Agreed. The law only mandates that they tell you they will do with your data, it seems to place no limits on what they can actually DO with your data, as long as they tell you, in some way what use they will make of it (obfuscated or not). Further, the rules about what use of the data a future acqui...
[18:41:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03mr_bad_influence [3854] (Score:1) 02chilling effect - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 526 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:41:36] <exec> 08└─Because my personal information is sold, shared, or bartered, I am less inclined to use any website which collects it (or worse, demands 'real' information). This has a chilling effect for me and it is beginning to discourage me from visiting almost any website on the 'net. It is the primary reason...
[18:41:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:chilling effect - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:41:37] <exec> 08└─Hey! I have nothing to hide. My real information is: Address: Donald Duck, 124 Duckamnesia Blvd, Duckburg, DB 50184 Phone: +555 389211 SSN: 839-42-4892 CC: 9348 8248 5098 4091 It's true I promise! :D PS, I have temporarily moved to my drop box so you can just send any physical objects there.
[18:41:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:chilling effect - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:41:39] <exec> 08└─I think that's DavidMichaelCrawford's real info.
[18:41:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:chilling effect - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:41:41] <exec> 08└─I won't purchase any goods from an online retailer I can get from brick and mortar, mail order, or phone orders
[18:41:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Which is why... - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:41:42] <exec> 08└─I use a junk email address (Hotmail) and junk phone number (Google Voice) on every webform that requires an email & phone. It's nice not getting spam in my personal email or spam calls to my real phone.
[18:41:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Which is why... - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 695 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:41:44] <exec> 08└─And here's the thing: They still know it's you. Network evercookies, CDNs, identity resolution tables, whathave you. They still have an approximate person who those junk numbers and addresses belong to. And when they resell whatever is personal to their site: the networks store it with your correct...
[18:41:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Cardinal rules - again - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 624 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:41:45] <exec> 08└─Cardinal rules: (1) Any information you give up for any purpose will be used for all purposes. (2) Claims of trust without straight proof to back it up is bullshit. (3) Safety comes in probability, it's not binary. (4) The future will be like you think it would be and then a lot more tha...
[18:42:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03morgauxo [2082] (Score:2) 02Re:Better to do other - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 1276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:42:05] <exec> 08└─"till society is ready to deal with the consequences" Human society evolves just like everything else... out of necessity. Any form of science and technology that you want to say "we aren't ready for"... we aren't going to wake up one day 100 years from now suddenly ready to address these issues and...
[18:42:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ikanreed [3164] 02Re:Absoluely moronic - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 449 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:42:08] <exec> 08└─In this particular case, we're talking about maternal inherited mitochondrial disorders. These diseases are 95% or more heritable. And they're treatable by just using a different host egg for the genetic information from the mother and father. No more complicated than standard in vitro fertilizatio...
[18:42:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03deathlyslow [2818] (Score:1) 02Re:Absoluely moronic - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:42:10] <exec> 08└─If that last link was directed at me and I offended you sorry, I thought I was asking out of ignorance not malice. That's why I listed the things that I could see and asked for you/someone else to fill me in on those I couldn't. Damn it Jim, I'm an IT manager not a doctor... - it's a joke get it......
[18:42:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Absoluely moronic - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:42:12] <exec> 08└─I read your tone as harsher than it was. I think my point is still relevant to the larger discussion, but it didn't need to be so pointed in the conversation we were having. An apology is due. Sorry.
[18:42:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:Absoluely moronic - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 1815 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:42:15] <exec> 08└─I can see using viable mitochondrial DNA instead of diseased DNA in the 3 parent child approach. Anything more than that gets creepy, and I wasn't confident that TFA or the Chinese research referenced was limited to that. I think “cosmetic” genetics will be tempting. A guy I know once told me th...
[18:42:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:Absoluely moronic - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:42:17] <exec> 08└─Not to go too far off topic, but provably is the key word there. I think the AAP is using “new math” or something, but here you go [aappublications.org]. (no karma bonus checked)
[18:42:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:service level agreement - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 641 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:42:23] <exec> 08└─People with such diseases not having babies at all would eradicate these diseases too. With 7+ billion people infesting this over-burdened planet it might be a good time to focus on quality instead of quantity and having babies just because you can. And no it's very unlikely that your genes are that...
[18:42:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:service level agreement - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:42:25] <exec> 08└─Yes, yes, the "let the anonymous idiot on the internet select who can breed" solution to the overpopulation problem. I choose you instead.
[18:42:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03kanweg [4737] (Score:1) 02Re:Great. - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 408 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:42:31] <exec> 08└─"So, in the most advanced medical research ever undertaken, we're going to give veto power to people who take seriously the proposition that the first humans were lovingly hand-crafted mud sculptures created by an angry wizard in an enchanted garden with talking animals." That sharp observation is b...
[18:42:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03dingus [5224] (Score:1) 02Congressional Educational Materials - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:42:33] <exec> 08└─There should be a congressional hearing on this issue where they just watch Gattaca. In seriousness though, I think there are only two ways to do this: make it mandatory for all embryos to be disease-free or banning the practice altogether. I don't want to live in a Gattaca situation where people wi...
[18:42:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Satya Nadella's tombstone... - 06Microsoft Outsourcing Online Ad Management to AOL - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:42:52] <exec> 08└─You make very good points but I wouldn't be so quick to say "everything is using NoSQL these days"... Also, I want a pizza-roll...
[18:43:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I must be superman - 06Spiders Ingest Nanotubes, Weave Silk Reinforced with Carbon - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:16] <exec> 08└─If spider silk is so god damn strong why can I tear it to shreds with my bare hands?
[18:43:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't this the Internet age? - 06Discovery Outbids National Broadcasters for Olympics - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:43:29] <exec> 08└─and listen to the radio coverage while watching the TV.
[18:43:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03skater [4342] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't this the Internet age? - 06Discovery Outbids National Broadcasters for Olympics - 800 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:43:30] <exec> 08└─A couple years back I caught a rebroadcast of an old Ohio State-Michigan football game. I don't know who the play-by-play guy was, but the color guy was another college football coach. It was awesome to watch - they didn't talk too much, they just let the plays develop, and they said a few things ab...
[18:43:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03sparky [5496] (Score:1) 02Re:Isn't this the Internet age? - 06Discovery Outbids National Broadcasters for Olympics - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:43:34] <exec> 08└─you could hear the event, but the commentators were gone
[18:43:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Could have been worse! - 06Discovery Outbids National Broadcasters for Olympics - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:43:37] <exec> 08└─Discovery owns the majority of Eurosport. [wikipedia.org] I guess from the name you can guess where and what they broadcast.
[18:43:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03meisterister [949] (Score:2) 02Re:Could have been worse! - 06Discovery Outbids National Broadcasters for Olympics - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:43:39] <exec> 08└─I would facepalm, but this is pretty much 90+% of the "content" on the history channel now. I unofficially mod you +1 Sad but True
[18:43:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:USA today at a glance - 06US Supreme Court Strikes Down New Anti-Pollution Rules - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:43:57] <exec> 08└─Only the US considers property and money more important than life.
[18:44:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:One step forward... - 06US Supreme Court Strikes Down New Anti-Pollution Rules - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:44:06] <exec> 08└─Congress needs to look around and see if they can find where they misplaced their testes and start just overrulling the SCOTUS when they misrule.
[18:44:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03dingus [5224] (Score:2, Informative) 02To be fair - 06US Supreme Court Strikes Down New Anti-Pollution Rules - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:44:12] <exec> 08└─The supreme court said that the EPA is perfectly within bounds when regulating pollution, and they'll probably go ahead with the regulations anyway. The thing is that from now on they have to make a cost-benefit analysis of the proposed regulations *before* they are put into effect, unlike previousl...
[18:45:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormreaver [5101] (Score:2) 02Re:I call BS! - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:24] <exec> 08└─there is absolutely ZERO difference between this and what MSFT tried to do in the 90s with MS Java!
[18:45:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Yay! - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:35] <exec> 08└─Well, probably they added the the leap second so that Greece has a bit more time to pay back its debt.
[18:47:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:wait, what? - 06How Television Beat the Internet - 1171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:52] <exec> 08└─We won't have the truly paperless office for a while, because of various logistical things. I can flip through a paper book a lot easier than I can flip through an equivalent electronic book. There are various advantages and disadvantages in the two formats. I would be very surprised, if we got to t...
[18:49:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why - 06Ransomware-Installing Exploit Kit Targets Flash Remote Code Execution - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:49:12] <exec> 08└─Youtube don't need flash any more. I keep it installed but disabled for some more obscure streaming sites. Alas twitch.tv still needs flash :( You can't fully avoid it yet. But leaving it disabled globally doesn't harm your average browsing experience anymore.
[18:51:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:Er, wtf - 06Man Shoots Down Neighbor's Hexacopter - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:51:24] <exec> 08└─In the US, the law quite clearly states that you *should* take matters into your own hands; the police only exist to clean up the results.
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[19:41:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:chilling effect - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:41:42] <exec> 08└─> Hey! I have nothing to hide. My real information is: I use the identity of people who previously lived at my current address. Helps it blend in since they are already on the record as residents of the address. It can be problematic if they filed a change-of-address with the USPS and you actually n...
[19:41:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:chilling effect - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:41:43] <exec> 08└─Use a delivery destination somewhere else than you live and pay using COD, debit cards, cash etc? As long as you make good on payment on your orders and not bother anyone. I don't think mail order companies give a sh-t?
[19:41:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Which is why... - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:41:48] <exec> 08└─There's a difference between being cautious and wearing a tinfoil cap.
[19:41:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Which is why... - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:41:50] <exec> 08└─I worked at a company that did the ATM to CRM data collection for retail companies. That part, at the very least, I can vouch for being totally real.
[19:41:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Which is why... - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:41:51] <exec> 08└─How did they get at the data? or make the connection..
[19:41:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Which is why... - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:41:53] <exec> 08└─Bank tracks your withdrawals, they track the serial numbers of the currency emitted by the machine, bigger chain stores take their cash register contents, scan them at end of the day. A couple lookup tables later, and they have a pretty good idea of who bought what.
[19:41:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Which is why... - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:41:54] <exec> 08└─I'm so cautious, I wear a tinfoil cup.
[19:41:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02There is a business here.... - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 1666 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:41:56] <exec> 08└─I suspect there is a business model here for someone (or several someones) who wants to set up an info-broker for all the information you typically need to provide just to order a bag of donuts delivered over the web. (Or what ever). Something like a place you put all your info, and then when you cl...
[19:41:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:There is a business here.... - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:41:58] <exec> 08└─> I suspect there is a business model here Sure there is a model. Unlikely to have much demand because most people can't afford to pay for something with no tangible results. The people who can afford it probably have assistants to already do all of that anyway.
[19:41:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Most privacy policies have the general backdoor - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:41:59] <exec> 08└─"Subject to change without notice..."
[19:42:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03morgauxo [2082] (Score:2) 02Re:Better to do other - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:42:14] <exec> 08└─Are you for real? Do you really think that doing the same things over and over will eventually teach people to do better? Or is this just a troll?
[19:42:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Better to do other - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 936 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:42:17] <exec> 08└─Probably it is a fair cost to pay. Otherwise the lawyers would have drained the bank accounts of airlines, aircraft manufacturers, and the FAA. People are not scarce. If we lose a few along the way, some other people cry, life goes on. Is the occasional lightning strike to the head a fair cost to pa...
[19:42:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Better to do other - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:42:22] <exec> 08└─Grow a date. Then enjoy the farce like the one depicted in Repli-Kate [wikipedia.org] from 2002.
[19:42:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Better to do other - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:42:25] <exec> 08└─This isn't Civilization, we can research multiple technologies at the same time.
[19:42:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Absoluely moronic - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:42:36] <exec> 08└─And even if it did, violating someone's fundamental bodily rights would be unethical. The ends don't justify the means.
[19:42:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Absoluely moronic - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:42:37] <exec> 08└─while medical ethics already forbids unnecessary surgery and treatment
[19:42:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:Sigh - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:42:50] <exec> 08└─The “budding Christian theocracy” is only a symptom of the disease. A lot of times I wonder if the Masters of the Universe even follow a religion and if it has even a shred of Judeo-Christian mythology in it.
[19:42:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03morgauxo [2082] (Score:2) 02Re:Great. - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:42:53] <exec> 08└─Hmm.. That's an interesting document you got there. I'm not sure how representative of current day Catholicism it really is though. Check this one out.. http://www.newsweek.com [newsweek.com] Now.. if you replaced Cat...
[19:43:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03bryan [29] (Score:2) 02Re:SO ? - 06Microsoft Outsourcing Online Ad Management to AOL - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:43:08] <exec> 08└─No, no. This is an article about Microsoft. Therefore, "CD" stands for Cease and desist [wikipedia.org].
[19:43:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:It's oddly impressive - 06Microsoft Outsourcing Online Ad Management to AOL - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:43:13] <exec> 08└─Or it just means they made smart business decisions. But I agree that doesn't lend itself to a convenient negative metaphor.
[19:43:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Satya Nadella's tombstone... - 06Microsoft Outsourcing Online Ad Management to AOL - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:43:19] <exec> 08└─So what is MS's core business?
[19:43:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03JeffPaetkau [1465] (Score:1) 02Re:Satya Nadella's tombstone... - 06Microsoft Outsourcing Online Ad Management to AOL - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:43:21] <exec> 08└─He's doing a lot of random stuff, and getting a lot of press attention, most of it good, but I haven't seen a unified strategy to pull MS out of its nosedive yet.
[19:43:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:UK Law means it has to be on free to air - 06Discovery Outbids National Broadcasters for Olympics - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:43:54] <exec> 08└─Or they could create a low power (LPTV) station, which will only be received by very few people... https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[19:44:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:USA today at a glance - 06US Supreme Court Strikes Down New Anti-Pollution Rules - 384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:44:25] <exec> 08└─energy industry crying 'oh, poor me!' ? really? REALLY? we're too poor to afford to make clean energy. yeah, I TOTALLY believe them. they can just barely keep their families fed, those poor babies. lets give them a pass and help those low-income CEO's afford to clean the air and water. its only our...
[19:45:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03stormwyrm [717] 02What can be done? - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 718 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:38] <exec> 08└─It would be one thing if this were a law, in which case you could sue the Attorney General in their ex officio capacity to get the law declared invalid for whatever reason. But this is a specific interpretation of the law. I suppose now we can look forward to computer science research getting stifle...
[19:46:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I still don't get it - 06July 1st Delayed: Leap Second Inserted - 1553 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:46:20] <exec> 08└─You are correct that GPS keeps its own time. It is a continuous counting clock that started in 1980 [nps.edu], and since it uses atomic clocks, it is a pretty nice clock indeed. Because of the ubiquity of GPS, it gives us all a very nice clock in our watches, phones, cars, etc. Anything with a GPS r...
[19:48:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Out of the loop but try Hastie & Tibshirani - 06Ask Soylent: Beginning in Artificial Intelligence Methods - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:53] <exec> 08└─Asshat, maybe. Ignorant, no. So, which part of the medical field do you work in?
[19:51:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tramii [920] (Score:2) 02Re:Er, wtf - 06Man Shoots Down Neighbor's Hexacopter - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:51:52] <exec> 08└─What kind of backwards country are you talking about? Are you seriously suggesting that your local law enforcement rejects any/all video footage? Do they not have security cameras where you live?
[19:51:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:Er, wtf - 06Man Shoots Down Neighbor's Hexacopter - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:51:56] <exec> 08└─The police have no obligation to protect you or your rights. These issues have gone to court, and the courts have clearly stated that this is not their job. In the US, the law quite clearly states that you *should* take matters into your own hands; the police only exist to clean up the results.
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[20:41:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Translation - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:41:35] <exec> 08└─The IQ-loving dumbasses got pwned by Chinese computer hacks. What should MENSA morons do now? :)
[20:41:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Translation - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:41:36] <exec> 08└─Same thing they've always done. Have conversations about how smart they are. It's not like reality has really been a big factor in braggadocio anyways.
[20:41:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02But I AM Smart. It says so right here! - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 484 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:41:38] <exec> 08└─Same thing they've always done. Have conversations about how smart they are. Dude, I'm so smart, I'm almost as smart as a computer! This is a joke today, but in less than 10 years it is likely to be a legitimate bragging point, and all the "AI will never be real folks" eating crow (or maybe pigeon,...
[20:41:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Translation - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:41:39] <exec> 08└─Lol. "Someone/something is smarter than people that are smarter than me! Take that!!"
[20:41:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Translation - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:41:41] <exec> 08└─Is there any provision that Mensa members have to be human?
[20:41:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not so impressed - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:41:42] <exec> 08└─The type of problems given in the verbal part of standardized tests such as the SAT strike me as very computer-like, an exercise in thinking like a parser and semantic analyzer, backed of course with a wide but shallow store of knowledge. That's hardly a Turing test.
[20:41:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:chilling effect - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:41:56] <exec> 08└─I use the identity of people who previously lived at my current address.
[20:42:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Which is why... - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:42:05] <exec> 08└─Good idea if you carry a cellphone in your pocket, unless you want future politician kids.
[20:42:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cardinal rules - again - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:42:07] <exec> 08└─Why do you have an account here? Don't leave a trail, opsec is not just for spies.
[20:42:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03No Respect [991] (Score:2) 02It didn't take a NYT article to convince me - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 690 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:42:12] <exec> 08└─In a not-the-same but close-enough case, when Radio Shack was filing for bankruptcy last February they revealed that their famous customer phone number list was one of their most valuable remaining assets. They were going to sell it. This came after decades of Radio Shack employees routinely asking...
[20:42:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Better to do other - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:42:30] <exec> 08└─Barely handle nuclear power and the Internet? Seems to be working just fine to me. http://nextbigfuture.com [nextbigfuture.com]
[20:42:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Better to do other - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:42:39] <exec> 08└─Try the cemetery or the morgue. Sometimes they aren't even dead.
[20:43:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03ah.clem [4241] (Score:2) 02Re:Sigh - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:43:08] <exec> 08└─This is an interesting statement - are you willing to provide the name of the org and the city it's located in, Anon? If the statement turns out to be accurate, I will certainly do followup research on this.
[20:43:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:SO ? - 06Microsoft Outsourcing Online Ad Management to AOL - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:43:25] <exec> 08└─No, no. This is an article about Microsoft..... C*ck and douche, etc. Typing on a tablet, switching keyboards is too much trouble.
[20:43:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03mechanicjay [7] (Score:1) 02Re:Perfect business school case study - 06Microsoft Outsourcing Online Ad Management to AOL - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:43:33] <exec> 08└─Indeed, it's the perfect marriage of mediocrity.
[20:44:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I must be superman - 06Spiders Ingest Nanotubes, Weave Silk Reinforced with Carbon - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:44:01] <exec> 08└─If spider silk is so god damn strong why can I tear it to shreds with my bare hands?
[20:44:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I must be superman - 06Spiders Ingest Nanotubes, Weave Silk Reinforced with Carbon - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:44:02] <exec> 08└─"If spider silk is so god damn strong why can I tear it to shreds with my bare hands?" Brute!
[20:44:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03theronb [2596] (Score:1) 02Re:I must be superman - 06Spiders Ingest Nanotubes, Weave Silk Reinforced with Carbon - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:44:04] <exec> 08└─Clearly, you are the spiders' kaiju monster.
[20:44:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't this the Internet age? - 06Discovery Outbids National Broadcasters for Olympics - 805 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:44:19] <exec> 08└─Even in the "olden days" you'd run into issues with satellite delays if the TV went half way across the country over a satellite and back thats nearly a second but the radio for in state local games was a microwave link. Anyway worst case it felt like a newscast. Live you'd see the ball get handed t...
[20:44:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't this the Internet age? - 06Discovery Outbids National Broadcasters for Olympics - 1844 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:44:24] <exec> 08└─Its an American thing to ruin a simple sports broadcast. I read your link and flashed back to Japanese torrents of the original Unbeatable Banzuke TV show, like a decade ago. Compare it with the USA American Ninja Warrior and they crap it all up with 3 minutes of commercials for old people prescript...
[20:44:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't this the Internet age? - 06Discovery Outbids National Broadcasters for Olympics - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:44:26] <exec> 08└─My whole family including parents watched Sasuke with me. I don't remember why it got cancelled, I think someone in Japan got killed on the course
[20:44:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:USA today at a glance - 06US Supreme Court Strikes Down New Anti-Pollution Rules - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:44:51] <exec> 08└─We can't afford to live better, it's too expensive.
[20:45:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Mixed Bag - 06US Supreme Court Strikes Down New Anti-Pollution Rules - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:06] <exec> 08└─Well that's not good - we need stricter limits on mercury and arsenic and other toxins to ensure these things do not pollute our environment.
[20:45:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Ramadan - 06Iraqi Government Shut Down Internet to... Prevent Exam Cheating - 396 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:45] <exec> 08└─During this month (determined by the lunar cycle, so it changes each year like Easter does), Muslims can't have any food or water while there's sunlight. There is an incredibly deadly heat wave going on in Pakistan and they are having a hard time getting folks there to drink -any- water during the h...
[20:45:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03takyon [881] 02sky is falling - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 337 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:59] <exec> 08└─This is an important case, because it sets precedent if publicly documented software APIs can be copyrighted. This has relevance throughout the FOSS community, from Wine (reimplementing the Windows API) to Octave (reimplementing the MATLAB API)... There is no option to overturn this precedent save a...
[20:46:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:I call BS! - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 1447 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:21] <exec> 08└─You seem to be conflating Dalvik and the Playwall, but your overall criticism of the state of Android from the perspective of extricating Google from the OS is spot-on. However, there's more to Java than “apping app appers” (as whoever likes to post at random). I've been dabbling with server-sid...
[20:47:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03nukkel [168] (Score:2) 02Re:Putin-approved - 06Germany's Oldest Remaining Nuclear Plant Shuts Down - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:47:49] <exec> 08└─And then non-renewable again as our sun dies out. And then renewable again as the universe collapses and a new big bang occurs. As you go up (or down) the time scale, renewable and non-renewable tend to alternate.
[20:47:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03nukkel [168] (Score:2) 02Re:Putin-approved - 06Germany's Oldest Remaining Nuclear Plant Shuts Down - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:47:52] <exec> 08└─Shhh, quiet now! Nuclear is anti-green because dogma. Don't question the dogma!
[20:48:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:It's not really the wisest course - 06Germany's Oldest Remaining Nuclear Plant Shuts Down - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:48:06] <exec> 08└─No one has yet to show parachutes are needed. There are advantages in addition to the alleged costs to delaying a transition to renewable energy. After all, Germany and Denmark have in the process of shifting over now, doubled the cost of their electricity, which doesn't sound like a good move to me...
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[21:41:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:But I AM Smart. It says so right here! - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 1168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:41:39] <exec> 08└─AC has a valid point but I suspect people will just give up and compete about something else. I'm old enough that I have good mental math and estimation skills and can often do simple math faster than people can use a computer or calculator IF its simple enough. I kid you not, you get a bill for 5 p...
[21:41:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Translation - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:41:41] <exec> 08└─Tork, what are your IQ scores? Are you a Mensa member?
[21:41:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Translation - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:41:43] <exec> 08└─I should be in Mensa I took an IQ test on the web and scored 96%!!!
[21:41:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Translation - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:41:44] <exec> 08└─Yep. You should be in Mensa. Good luck.
[21:41:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Translation - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:41:46] <exec> 08└─Judging by the ones I've met, I'm fairly sure there isn't.
[21:41:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Translation - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:41:48] <exec> 08└─Standardized cognitive assessments are useful tools. IQ tests are predictive of future academic success, which is for what IQ tests were originally developed.
[21:41:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Not so impressed - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:41:49] <exec> 08└─Should it be a turing test, though? I mean, the point isn't always to make a human, but often to solve tasks that as-of-yet only humans have been able to solve. The money is in making uncomputable problems into computable ones. And linguistic interpretation is part of that. You can imagine this kind...
[21:41:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Slightly misleading - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 1045 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:41:51] <exec> 08└─The results are somewhat misleading. I read the journalist output and skimmed the paper. First they didn't really do an IQ test they just dived into some weird game-able vocabulary tests. Its like saying human mathematicians are doomed because the graphics card I threw out today can do more raw FLOP...
[21:41:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Slightly misleading - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:41:53] <exec> 08└─Its like saying human mathematicians are doomed because the graphics card I threw out today can do more raw FLOPs that any planet of humans working with pen and paper.
[21:41:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:2, Informative) 02How they do it - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 418 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:41:54] <exec> 08└─According to the paper, the authors created a bunch of formulas and inputted training data. The computer memorized - roughly saying - everything that was ever written. Then when a pre-parsed question was presented, the software calculated the optimal answer using statistics. Here is one of their exa...
[21:41:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:How they do it - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:41:56] <exec> 08└─The Chinese Room problem is just a bunch of woo and vitalism and life-force crystal power stuff. My head contains a Chinese Room although it was fed English. No woo required. A better analogy would be feeding a bunch of finite element analysis into a computer and pretending it can "Design bridges".
[21:41:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03mr_mischief [4884] (Score:2) 02IQ tests measure human intelligence badly enough. - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 729 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:41:57] <exec> 08└─IQ tests aren't the best way to measure human intelligence, either. They produce a handy, easily packaged single score that's one somewhat useful single data point in situations that require a numerical score. That's it. That's all they do. Give me a pile of IQ scores and I won't know which to hire...
[21:41:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:IQ tests measure human intelligence badly enoug - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:41:59] <exec> 08└─Give me a pile of IQ scores and I won't know which to hire or which to turn to when I want to strike up a conversation.
[21:42:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Which is why... - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:42:18] <exec> 08└─Or more precisely, whose hooker and dealer bought what.
[21:42:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Which is why... - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:42:21] <exec> 08└─or brick and mortar stores.
[21:42:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:It didn't take a NYT article to convince me - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:42:28] <exec> 08└─Once again, company assets in the 21st century: - cash and short-term investments - patents and licensing agreements - Customer databases Everything else is a liability.
[21:42:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:It didn't take a NYT article to convince me - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:42:30] <exec> 08└─If anyone was really surprised by anything in the NYT article, well, you're a moron.
[21:43:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:Absoluely moronic - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:43:13] <exec> 08└─Ah, but that's necessary from the point of view of the patient.
[21:44:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02As a super villain I'm excited - 06Spiders Ingest Nanotubes, Weave Silk Reinforced with Carbon - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:44:24] <exec> 08└─What type of spiders do i need for my lair, and what kind of scientists do i kidnaP? I Know this technology has potentially infinite applications in the future. but for right now, without even knowing what I would use it for, I must have it.
[21:44:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03tynin [2013] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't this the Internet age? - 06Discovery Outbids National Broadcasters for Olympics - 463 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:44:46] <exec> 08└─You have made my wife and my night. Back in 2011 the producers of the show went bankrupt, and then American Ninja Warrior came out, and we thought that was the end of that. I don't really care for the American version as they don't treat it like the gauntlet run it should be. But seeing that after t...
[21:50:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:YES! - 06Ask Soylent: Beginning in Artificial Intelligence Methods - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:50:04] <exec> 08└─Cross Validation is not (at least on its face) a hard concept. I've used it, and used it correctly in an imaging methods paper. Obviously test data and training data need to be separated within each cross-validation experiment.
[21:50:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Resources + I'm not sure the approach is good - 06Ask Soylent: Beginning in Artificial Intelligence Methods - 483 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:50:08] <exec> 08└─I used artificial intelligence as an umbrella term, and from my reading machine learning is a set of computational statistical methods (e.g. logistic regression). Artificial intelligence is the pursuit of "intelligence" what ever that means, by artificial means, which often will include machine lear...
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[22:41:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What the Hell? - 06Most Virtual Private Networks (VPNs) leaks users' details. - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:41:35] <exec> 08└─I can't find the damn list to see if my VPN service is on it. The paper doesn't seem to have been made public, at least not at any of the links provided. That makes this article a total waste of time. Please tell me I'm blind!
[22:41:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03_NSAKEY [16] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:What the Hell? - 06Most Virtual Private Networks (VPNs) leaks users' details. - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:41:36] <exec> 08└─The paper in question can be found here [degruyter.com]. The rest of the papers [degruyter.com] are also online. It's all open access, so there should be no trouble.
[22:41:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03_NSAKEY [16] (Score:3, Interesting) 02A similar thing happens with censorship gear, too. - 06Most Virtual Private Networks (VPNs) leaks users' details. - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:41:38] <exec> 08└─A lot of stuff still pretends that IPv6 doesn't exist. For example, the Tor Project volunteers who watch for censorship events have never seen IPv6-related censorship, not even in China. Apparently the censorship gear just lets IPv6 traffic pass through unmolested.
[22:41:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:3, Informative) 02The problem is that the clients screwed up IPv6 - 06Most Virtual Private Networks (VPNs) leaks users' details. - 1050 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:41:39] <exec> 08└─The leak problem is on the client side. And the cure is simple: Disable IPv6 completely on your local system while using the VPN service that only handles IPv4. And watch out for what DNS requests that leave your network. Another solution is to make sure your local IPv6 traffic and DNS requests goes...
[22:41:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Translation - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:41:51] <exec> 08└─And AA meetings are talking about alcohol related problems. Is it so surprising or offensive that a group made around a specific subject talks about that specific subject? As has been said before MENSA is a support group for highly intelligent people. Go to a meeting some time and see the truth of i...
[22:41:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Translation - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:41:52] <exec> 08└─As has been said before MENSA is a support group for highly intelligent people.
[22:41:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Translation - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:41:57] <exec> 08└─Even if it was properly proctored 96th percentile wouldn't be enough.
[22:42:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Translation - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 423 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:42:02] <exec> 08└─But many people have mistaken them for something that measures actual intelligence. I see that misconception constantly. Schools need to drastically raise their standards. The best universities seem to be able to eliminate the trash fairly quickly, whereas everywhere else they are let through and of...
[22:42:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Translation - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:42:03] <exec> 08└─The 'dumbasses' are smarter than you. Nice taunt.
[22:42:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Translation - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:42:05] <exec> 08└─> The 'dumbasses' are smarter than you. Nice taunt. Said the AC from Mensa!
[22:42:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:Not so impressed - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:42:07] <exec> 08└─So, where's my Universal Language Translator? Seriously, I could use my own personal translator that could translate for me on the fly.
[22:42:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not so impressed - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:42:09] <exec> 08└─Not until it can handle idiom translations. "bigger than a bread box" --> "drop a dime" --> "hang up" --> "in for a penny, in for a pound" --> "road apple" -->
[22:42:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:Not so impressed - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 466 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:42:10] <exec> 08└─Wasn't the Turing test technically completed by a souped-up Eliza chatbot claiming to be a 13 year old Hungarian with poor English or something? Whoops, looks like it claimed to be Ukranian according to a vice.com article, and from what I remember from Turing's paper it would need to actually demons...
[22:42:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:chilling effect - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:42:30] <exec> 08└─I use a private mailbox for correspondence for my real identity. I use the masked-cards service from Abine for online purchases, they let you use any name on the masked card# that you want. Abine only gets my PO-box address (since they have my real CC#) but they never my residential address since t...
[22:42:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:chilling effect - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:42:32] <exec> 08└─I actually did get a visit. But not for the identity I had chosen. There is not much they could do anyway, if they were to serve me papers for the real person it would suck for the real person who is probably already in trouble anyway.
[22:42:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Which is why... - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 396 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:42:42] <exec> 08└─So, you pull $100 out of the ATM, loan it to a friend, he spends it on condoms and a hooker, but you get tagged for it. I see no way this could be used in court and it's to easy to launder the money by buying a pack of gum at 7/11 and getting change. I call BS on the ATM to big brother tracking the...
[22:42:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bytram [4043] (Score:2) 02ATM machines and cash serial numbers - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 447 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:42:43] <exec> 08└─I've hears rumors that ATM machines scanned the serial numbers of the cash they dispensed. I see no techological reason why this would be difficult, but have been hard-pressed to find anything that definitively substantiated that this was done. Do you have any independent confirmation or on-line sou...
[22:42:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It didn't take a NYT article to convince me - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:42:54] <exec> 08└─> I was surprised that the article — which, after all, is published in the New York Times — contains that information. I would have been surprised if it was not mentioned in the article. Real journalism has rules about disclosing conflicts of interest and writing an article about industry practi...
[22:42:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It didn't take a NYT article to convince me - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:42:55] <exec> 08└─> If anyone was really surprised by anything in the NYT article, well, you're a moron. No, you are the moron for expecting everybody to be as focused on the same shit as you are. Seriously moronic. Real people are busying living their lives, articles like this in the ny times are about informing nor...
[22:42:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Wayback machine - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:42:57] <exec> 08└─I'd swear we must be talking about an article from, like, 2003 or something.
[22:43:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Absoluely moronic - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:43:33] <exec> 08└─And yet they could also just adopt, rather than having kids when they know the kids will inherit problems like that.
[22:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't this the Internet age? - 06Discovery Outbids National Broadcasters for Olympics - 1277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:45:13] <exec> 08└─If you find a legal way to watch in .us at a sane price, post details. I'm willing to pay the $15 the inferior americanized version wants per season on amazon instant video, but I'd be willing to pay a bit more for the "genuine" .jp version. I would not be interested in ordering an imported DVD box...
[22:45:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Isn't this the Internet age? - 06Discovery Outbids National Broadcasters for Olympics - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:45:14] <exec> 08└─> So. This is the Internet age. Why don't they just put all of the events on the Internet, both as live-stream and as podcasts? Probably because of what they charge for using the broadcasting rights in that way.
[22:46:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:2) 02Re:Ramadan - 06Iraqi Government Shut Down Internet to... Prevent Exam Cheating - 999 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:35] <exec> 08└─> Religions are stupid. People are stupider. A holy text is just a bad novel until someone starts believing it. Besides, if a person refuses to break fast for survival purposes then I've read more of the Quran than they (or the thumbs they're under) have. [2:183-184] "O you who have believed, decree...
[22:47:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:I call BS! - 06SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - 509 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:10] <exec> 08└─So if MSFT would have just named it "coffee" it would have been okay, is THAT your position? So GOOG or some other large corp could just take Linux and make it proprietary, because "hey this isn't 'Linux' its LOONIX, its a totally different thing!"....NOW do you see why your position is a dumb? Beca...
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[23:41:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Large NEO are not even the most threatening. - 06The Underfunded, Disorganized Plan To Save Earth From the Next Giant Asteroid - 817 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:41:35] <exec> 08└─Let us not forget Chelyabinsk. [wikipedia.org] The meteor strike released 20-30 times the energy of the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima, but thankfully it didn't strike ground and exploded in mid-air. Asteroids much smaller than ones cited in TFA can be considered Nukes minus the EMP and radioactiv...
[23:41:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:A similar thing happens with censorship gear, t - 06Most Virtual Private Networks (VPNs) leaks users' details. - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:41:46] <exec> 08└─Wow, loophole much?
[23:41:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:A similar thing happens with censorship gear, t - 06Most Virtual Private Networks (VPNs) leaks users' details. - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:41:47] <exec> 08└─Or even better, a honeypot.
[23:41:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The problem is that the clients screwed up IPv6 - 06Most Virtual Private Networks (VPNs) leaks users' details. - 505 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:41:50] <exec> 08└─Perhaps we just need standard method for blocking or null.routing IPv6 on Windows. Got Windows? Use a VPN? Run this script named blockIPv6.bat. Done. Microsoft can do whatever they like but once the PC is in your hands you decide what it does for you. Love to see them try to knuckle users who disabl...
[23:41:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:The problem is that the clients screwed up IPv6 - 06Most Virtual Private Networks (VPNs) leaks users' details. - 466 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:41:51] <exec> 08└─"Love to see them try to knuckle users who disable IPv6." Well - it would work for awhile. Most people who get cease and desist letters, or other threatening correspondence, look for the Easy Way Out® rather than addressing the issue. We see that from threatening letters from ISP's to TOS disputes,...
[23:41:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:The problem is that the clients screwed up IPv6 - 06Most Virtual Private Networks (VPNs) leaks users' details. - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:41:53] <exec> 08└─Once the PC is in your hands it will regularly start to phone-home and there will be feedback to tell them you did bad things..
[23:42:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Translation - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 423 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:42:06] <exec> 08└─The relationships between g(general intelligence) and IQ are complex and insufficiently defined scientifically. But most people in the field believe there's a strong relationship there and that IQ is describing something important to g. More specifically, it's describing crystallized intelligence in...
[23:42:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Translation - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 6 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:42:12] <exec> 08└─Woosh.
[23:42:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Translation - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:42:20] <exec> 08└─Admittedly I have never been accused of that before.
[23:42:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:Not so impressed - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:42:26] <exec> 08└─Easy as pie!
[23:42:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:Not so impressed - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:42:27] <exec> 08└─Crap, I just wooshed myself!
[23:42:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Not so impressed - 06A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:42:29] <exec> 08└─They just demoed the basic principle. Converting the underlying tech to a specific application takes a bit of time.
[23:42:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:chilling effect - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 48 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:42:47] <exec> 08└─I think that's DavidMichaelCrawford's real info.
[23:42:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:chilling effect - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 1083 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:42:54] <exec> 08└─Recently I had to get some medication from a pharmacy. I was so concerned about being followed home that I parked my car a long distance away. Then walked around the entire market in circles (inconspicuously) before entering the pharmacy (making sure there were no other customers in at that time. Al...
[23:43:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:ATM machines and cash serial numbers - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:43:05] <exec> 08└─I don't know for sure. Get change elsewhere first? Acquire your currency in person in a bank, since they can't scan the cashing leaving drawers the same way they do the dispensers? I don't know about validating it. It was just in the tutorial literature for the CRM application I was working on a tin...
[23:43:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:ATM machines and cash serial numbers - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:43:06] <exec> 08└─since they can't scan the cashing leaving drawers the same way they do the dispensers
[23:43:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cardinal rules - again - 06Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:43:12] <exec> 08└─(9) Poison the well
[23:43:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:Better to do other - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 3684 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:43:41] <exec> 08└─My apologies. I should have expanded on that statement. My concern wrt nuclear technology is NIMBYs. I'm not an expert, but it sounds like we've got a lot of old power plants, and while, sure, they don't explode like in SimCity after 50 years, we've pretty much put the brakes on research into design...
[23:43:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03deathlyslow [2818] (Score:1) 02Re:Absoluely moronic - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 710 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:43:59] <exec> 08└─No problem. There's no inflection on typed words. I appreciate the apology though. It never hurts to be civil to each other. I appreciate the link to. I always enjoy learning things. I'm actually an odd ball in that I have Ehlers-Danlos and can see some of the benefits of adjusting for if not outrig...
[23:44:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03ese002 [5306] (Score:1) 02Self Sabotage - 06U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:44:23] <exec> 08└─"In an unusual twist, the bill—introduced on June 17—would also direct the FDA to create a committee that includes religious experts"
[23:44:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02Re:Satya Nadella's tombstone... - 06Microsoft Outsourcing Online Ad Management to AOL - 1171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:44:50] <exec> 08└─They may not be losing revenue, but they are nosediving in terms of relevancy. Back in the mid-eighties to early 2000s Microsoft was a truly frightful juggernaut, so much so that back then when anyone would begin some sort of computer venture they would first ask: "What would Microsoft do in respons...
[23:44:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03skullz [2532] (Score:2) 02Re:Satya Nadella's tombstone... - 06Microsoft Outsourcing Online Ad Management to AOL - 693 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:44:51] <exec> 08└─From the consumer and developer side I have seen Microsoft shift from being The One Big Fish to being a company that actually tries to help solve people's problems. I take that back, they are trying to be the Platform For People to Solve Problems For You. Their Azure stuff is a good PaaS starting po...
[23:45:03] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] 02Re:Cancer? What cancer? - 06Spiders Ingest Nanotubes, Weave Silk Reinforced with Carbon - 1737 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:03] <exec> 08└─Actually, it was SirFinkus' idea (and I didn't check if there was any research on it - isn't that what editors are FOR?). Mine was a "your mom" joke, which is not something I usually rely on but I was really tired. Here's how it went down in the IRC last night: [20:53:56] <+cmn32480> hiya kids [20:...
[23:45:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:I must be superman - 06Spiders Ingest Nanotubes, Weave Silk Reinforced with Carbon - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:19] <exec> 08└─The strength is relative to it's size. It's like saying the Ant is stronger than a human, because it can lift 5k times it's body weight.
[23:45:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Isn't this the Internet age? - 06Discovery Outbids National Broadcasters for Olympics - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:38] <exec> 08└─In my opinion, radio announcers in general are better than their TV counterparts because they have to describe the game. TV announcers add comments to the action while radio announcers have to describe the action. I used to regularly turn down the TV and turn up the radio whenever possible. The best...
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