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[00:11:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Does Swift have core benefits in practice? - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:11:48] <exec> 08└─Does Swift have general and basic benefits over other languages? will the standardization and usage be stable over decades? Does it have any real world application benefit outside of the Apple hegemony? The Apple APIs are Objective-C so they will stay around for a while. But the replacement better m...
[00:11:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Does Swift have core benefits in practice? - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:11:49] <exec> 08└─My understanding is swif tis basically wrapping over the ObjC APIs, so its 1:1 functionality, or put in another way, Swift is a new language with ABI compatibility with ObjC message passing. I tried to play with ObjC, and while I think in some ways its better than C++, TBH, the syntax is very hard t...
[00:11:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Does Swift have core benefits in practice? - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:11:51] <exec> 08└─I'm just suspicious that this falls into:   * Hey cool we have written our own language that doesn't add anything than more book reading for you and fragmentation   * We must change language every so often to keep up with fashion because we lack impulse control   * Not invented here!   * We need...
[00:11:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Grossly misleading poll result caption - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 1498 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:11:53] <exec> 08└─One of StackOverflow's survey questions was, what languages would you be most interested in learning over the next 12 months (clearly, respondents were allowed to name more than one; many apparently named several). The top languages in the responses were: Swift 78 pct C++11 76 pct Rust 74 pct Go...
[00:12:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:hmmm - 06California Orders its Largest Water Cuts in History - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:12:11] <exec> 08└─I have indications that the mid-west has some harsh bible thumpers too.. :P Or is that only seasonal when the temperature gets too high?
[00:12:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Long term? - 06California Orders its Largest Water Cuts in History - 718 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:12:19] <exec> 08└─So California has to make some tough choices?   * Produce less food   * Optimize irrigation   * Restrict the number of citizens   * Embark on a gigantic tech project to supply more water (desalination at $$ price and prime target for bad people)   * Consider some land unsustainable for human ho...
[00:12:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"CA is essentially exporting their water" - 06California Orders its Largest Water Cuts in History - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:12:20] <exec> 08└─in fruits and veggies Would you believe alfalfa? [motherjones.com] aka fodder [motherjones.com] -- gewg_
[00:12:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Exemptions - 06California Orders its Largest Water Cuts in History - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:12:24] <exec> 08└─The question is perhaps how many water supplies they wreck by fracking..
[00:12:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:It costs more to flush the toilet. - 06California Orders its Largest Water Cuts in History - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:12:28] <exec> 08└─some mind control fluoride (just kidding?)
[00:12:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It costs more to flush the toilet. - 06California Orders its Largest Water Cuts in History - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:12:30] <exec> 08└─It's actually there to make people gay and subservient to obummer.
[00:12:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Why mention silicon valley at all - 06California Orders its Largest Water Cuts in History - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:12:31] <exec> 08└─Because Silicon Valley is supposed to have brains and money. Not something you would accuse the other industries of :P
[00:13:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Re:Wait … - 06The World’s First Penis Transplant has Reportedly Resulted in a Pregnancy  - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:13:15] <exec> 08└─Well, not *that* complicated. He won the bet, and the nurse lost. Quite simple actually.
[00:13:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This was - 06The World’s First Penis Transplant has Reportedly Resulted in a Pregnancy  - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:13:34] <exec> 08└─I worry what the consequences would be for being an asshole.
[00:15:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Abstract Science - 06San Francisco Votes to Expand Computer Science Education Across all Grades - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:15:05] <exec> 08└─Except that what they're doing won't teach problem solving, critical thinking, or logic. It'll be the same rote memorization that plagues all the other subjects.
[00:15:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03albert [276] (Score:1) 02eh, sort of - 06San Francisco Votes to Expand Computer Science Education Across all Grades - 1451 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:15:11] <exec> 08└─Everybody needs the basics for most of that stuff, and a bit more should be available as a mandatory option. ("you must pass any 3 of these 11 classes offered") For electrical wiring: Everybody ought to learn that circuits exist. Everybody should get a chance to play with wires, batteries, switches,...
[00:15:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:ipads uber alles - 06San Francisco Votes to Expand Computer Science Education Across all Grades - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:15:31] <exec> 08└─Jesus, no. Don't start them off with these toy languages that will simply teach them bad habits. Start off with something like C and assembly, so they can get a better idea of what happens in the background. The people who don't get it aren't cut out to do anything anyway.
[00:15:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:overkill? - 06Super Cheap Vac Attachment Helps Find Small Dropped Parts - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:15:53] <exec> 08└─Just use a BunVac 6000.
[00:16:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02At a job I had - 06Super Cheap Vac Attachment Helps Find Small Dropped Parts - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:16:09] <exec> 08└─We used to have fittings that sat between the hose and the can made from pieces of exhaust pipes and screen for this purpose.
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[01:11:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Grossly misleading poll result caption - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:11:57] <exec> 08└─My guess is that Swift is on the interesting to learn list because developers want to program the iPhone. But it's interesting in the same way you learn liberal arts to have sex with a girl. It's a means to an end, not the other way around. So how is the bloat factor and overload in Swift? C++ seems...
[01:11:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:3, Insightful) 02there's been a long thread on cocoa-dev lately - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 921 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:11:58] <exec> 08└─My take is that I'll be happy to learn Swift after it's an ISO standard. This because Apple pulled Objective-C 2.0 as well as Objective-C++ out of its ass without the slightest pretense of standardization. There's a real good reason that language committees are so big and the process goes on for so...
[01:11:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:there's been a long thread on cocoa-dev lately - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:11:59] <exec> 08└─Why not plain C for native code?
[01:12:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02transactional commit/rollback initialization - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 663 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:12:01] <exec> 08└─The correct use of C++ initialization lists as well as exception safe techniques such as smart pointers enables one to guarantee an object is correctly initialized or not created at all. For example Haim Zamir describes his Edge Highlighter algorithm - it's patented, look it up - as more-accurate wh...
[01:12:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kilo110 [2853] (Score:2) 02Re:hmmm - 06California Orders its Largest Water Cuts in History - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:12:13] <exec> 08└─I think he read "frost" as "forests"
[01:12:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02the solution is trivial but not technical - 06California Orders its Largest Water Cuts in History - 932 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:12:40] <exec> 08└─loosely speaking the problem is the notion that there is even such a thing as water "rights". As I see it we have the right to drink, as well as to grow enough food that we can eat but it stops there; we do not have the right to bathe nor to wash our clothes. The technical solution is quite simple a...
[01:12:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:the solution is trivial but not technical - 06California Orders its Largest Water Cuts in History - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:12:41] <exec> 08└─In the effort to keep a job showering and washing is kind of essential ;-)
[01:12:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02but one does not have a RIGHT to a job - 06California Orders its Largest Water Cuts in History - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:12:43] <exec> 08└─one has a right to free speech, to bear arms, one has a right not to house troops in one's home. But one does not have a right to have a job. Also there are plenty of places in the world where people get good jobs without ever bathing.
[01:13:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I've done sysadmin since 1986 - 06[Expires 2015/06/17] Linux Foundation & edX Offer Second SysAdmin Course - 932 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:13:17] <exec> 08└─... when I did phone support for Microport. I've also been paid to do SunOS admin. Of course I've been taking care of my own boxen since I got my first computer in 1986. I'd like to get back into system administration, but when I look at the job board posts there is no doubt in my mind that I would...
[01:13:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02The Republican Party's Take - 06The World’s First Penis Transplant has Reportedly Resulted in a Pregnancy  - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:13:58] <exec> 08└─"girlfriend". Given that she is bearing a child out of wedlock, she must be detained in jail for three months so she may embroider a red letter "A" - for "Adulteress" - that she must sew to her dress then display for the rest of her days on this mortal coil.
[01:14:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02why friction generates heat - 06Diamond Nanoparticles and Graphene Combination Adds Up to "Superlubricity" - 398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:14:25] <exec> 08└─hold your fingers with moderate stiffness then brush the tips of the fingers of one hand against the sides of the other fingers. Yes your fingers will get stuck in each other but they will also vibrate. An atomic lattice is not stiff rather it is more like a lattice of springs with masses at the nod...
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[02:11:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fluffeh [954] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Ghost in the Shell style hacks are coming - 06Medical Device Hijacking as Vector into Hospital Networks - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:11:47] <exec> 08└─I am always fascinated by good science fiction that makes solid predictions. I get that Ghost isn't that old, but still the original manga was written in 1989... that's a LONG way back to have an "internet of things" hacking of medical devices and so much about secure networks.
[02:11:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02OCT - 06Medical Device Hijacking as Vector into Hospital Networks - 707 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:11:48] <exec> 08└─I had my eyes scanned last week with a shiny new Zeiss OCT (Optical Coherence Tomography [wikipedia.org]). It ran Windows 7. The previous machine it replaced, earlier this month, ran Windows 2000. And yes it was connected to the Internet. Wirelessly. Now, Linux isn't necessarily bulletproof, but it...
[02:11:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Does Swift have core benefits in practice? - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:11:59] <exec> 08└─> Our developers have skills to make use of other platforms so lets force them to use our language so they forget others They are saying some of the right words, [opensource.com] deeds are still pending.
[02:12:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:transactional commit/rollback initialization - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:12:05] <exec> 08└─Excellent point, but can you you please tell me how to get a patent on an algorithm? Using your answer I would like to patent an algorithm for rare steak cooking. Then proceeded to collect royalties from every steakhouse, it's a first to file system after all...
[02:12:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Haim is why I support software patents myself - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 534 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:12:07] <exec> 08└─I agree strongly with Richard that there should not be frivolous patents. For Haim to have invented the Edge Highlighter is no different that Bell inventing the telephone. The simple fact that something is an algorithm does not mean it is not an invention one should not be permitted to patent. I inv...
[02:12:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Long term? - 06California Orders its Largest Water Cuts in History - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:12:36] <exec> 08└─It seems however not sustainable to increase the population into a region which is a dessert if humans don't constantly keep up.
[02:12:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Re:It costs more to flush the toilet. - 06California Orders its Largest Water Cuts in History - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:12:46] <exec> 08└─For mind control, they use their liberal agents in Hollywood to sneak communist messaging into children's television programming.
[02:12:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:but one does not have a RIGHT to a job - 06California Orders its Largest Water Cuts in History - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:12:52] <exec> 08└─No job = suicide in a capitalistic society. Unless you want everyone to get on welfare.
[02:12:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I've been out of work for five years - 06California Orders its Largest Water Cuts in History - 617 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:12:54] <exec> 08└─if I had a right to a job, I would have had that job five years ago. It's not like I don't bathe. I invest heavily in my own job-training, reading technical books, developer blogs, writing my own code. I apply for jobs every single day. I get lots of interviews so it's not like I'm waiving my right....
[02:13:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03KiloByte [375] (Score:1) 02Re:An even bigger question: - 06Tolkien's First Fantasy Tale to be Published After 100 Years - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:05] <exec> 08└─Uhm... The "Children of Hûrin" wasn't anything like you claim. It was far more palatable to a casual reader than previously published brief versions of that story.
[02:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03wirelessduck [3407] (Score:1) 02Re:for a fee of $499 - 06[Expires 2015/06/17] Linux Foundation & edX Offer Second SysAdmin Course - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:22] <exec> 08└─Microsoft won't accept github pull requests, ya know.
[02:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I've done sysadmin since 1986 - 06[Expires 2015/06/17] Linux Foundation & edX Offer Second SysAdmin Course - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:30] <exec> 08└─"Can you do brown paint".
[02:13:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02here's why I don't list git anywhere on my resume - 06[Expires 2015/06/17] Linux Foundation & edX Offer Second SysAdmin Course - 532 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:32] <exec> 08└─there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that not mentioning git nor github on my resume loses me a lot of jobs. The reason I don't is that I regard the use of revision control as fundamental to software development these days. Potential employers should simply expect that I know how to use git. Cons...
[02:13:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe its time to stop... - 06The World’s First Penis Transplant has Reportedly Resulted in a Pregnancy  - 519 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:52] <exec> 08└─My father-in-law lost hist penis to cancer. The doctor said that form of cancer is extremely rare in the United States, where circumcision is widely practiced; it's much more common in South America and places where most men are uncircumcised, as my father-in-law was. Jews practice ritual circumcisi...
[02:13:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Just because there's a high rate of penis amput - 06The World’s First Penis Transplant has Reportedly Resulted in a Pregnancy  - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:13:59] <exec> 08└─For what it's worth I would be unwilling to even a Western doctor near my penis with a sharp instrument.
[02:16:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03carguy [568] (Score:2) 02Re:other uses for shop vacs - 06Super Cheap Vac Attachment Helps Find Small Dropped Parts - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:16:39] <exec> 08└─> shop vac full of angry bees... I just waited a day before opening the shop vac, bees were all dead.
[02:17:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Re:Interstellar was good - 06Trailer Released for Matt Damon's Film, "The Martian" - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:17:16] <exec> 08└─I really liked Gravity, but maybe that's because my expectations of Science Fiction movies are really low. At least it wasn't people in space fleeing from some sort of monster. Also, when I heard they were making Asimovs "I Robot" I thought, "Wow, that could be really thoughtful" but of course we kn...
[02:18:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"gewg is right about Pacifica" - 06House Defeats Obama's Trade Agenda - 965 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:18:25] <exec> 08└─Hey, I wouldn't steer you wrong. Pacifica is left-wing media That's going a bit far. I don't consider someone Left unless he rejects Capitalism as a failed system. Now, there are a bunch of -Democrats- on my Pacifica affiliate. On KPFK, the only folks I can think of who are actually Left are Michael...
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[03:11:48] <exec> 08└─The insurances files decrypted by the Chinese told them that the root password to that system was swordfish. Now thanks to the traitor they will get everything protected by that powerful and mighty password. Hang him low and tight!!!
[03:11:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Troll warning** - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:11:49] <exec> 08└─American intelligence employees living abroad
[03:11:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score:3, Interesting) 02If it isn't open and easily patchable, it's hacked - 06Medical Device Hijacking as Vector into Hospital Networks - 593 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:11:59] <exec> 08└─Medicine has long been the purview of security by obscurity; I have absolutely no doubt these attacks are the tip of a very large, mostly submerged iceberg and they need some very rude awakenings. Subject says it all. I refuse to allow any device which isn't open and patchable on my home network. Yo...
[03:12:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Does Swift have core benefits in practice? - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:12:11] <exec> 08└─The Apple APIs are Objective-C so they will stay around for a while. But the replacement better measure up or there will be deep trouble ahead.
[03:12:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Grossly misleading poll result caption - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:12:14] <exec> 08└─But it's interesting in the same way you learn liberal arts to have sex with a girl.
[03:12:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03BananaPhone [2488] (Score:1) 02Is there a link to a comparison chart? - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:12:21] <exec> 08└─I keep on seeing articles about how great Swift is. What does it fix that other languages don't?
[03:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:An even bigger question: - 06Tolkien's First Fantasy Tale to be Published After 100 Years - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:13:21] <exec> 08└─/shrug I suppose. Although credited as " JRR Tolkien edited by Christopher Tolkien"; its as about as much a novel by JRR Tolkien as Blade Runner is a movie by Philip K Dick.
[03:14:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I can see an argument for donating my penis - 06The World’s First Penis Transplant has Reportedly Resulted in a Pregnancy  - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:14:31] <exec> 08└─maybe by doing so I will enable my penis to places where my penis has not gone before.
[03:14:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Circumcision much riskier after infancy - 06The World’s First Penis Transplant has Reportedly Resulted in a Pregnancy  - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:14:32] <exec> 08└─a friend of mine was circumsised when he was twelve years old, with the result that he had a woody for the weeks. He said it was quite painful.
[03:14:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03StupendousMan [103] 02Brief summary of the Rosetta mission - 06 Philae Comet Lander has Woken Up Again - 239 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:14:41] <exec> 08└─I gave a talk on the Rosetta mission a month ago, while we were still waiting for Philae to awake. It has lots of pictures, and links to further reading.       http://spiff.rit.edu [rit.edu]
[03:16:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score:2) 02Re:What a fucking dumb submission. - 06Super Cheap Vac Attachment Helps Find Small Dropped Parts - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:16:46] <exec> 08└─Actually, nylons work a lot better than a paper towel. If you can't find an old pair around the house, you ain't getting laid.
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[04:11:47] <exec> 08└─Well, yeah... you think some wouldn't try this scapegoat stunt [soylentnews.org]?
[04:11:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02The woman who called my Aunt was in tears - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:11:49] <exec> 08└─My mother's sister was a nurse for the Veteran's Administration. A woman from the federal government called Aunt Peggy to notify her of the breach. She was crying over the phone.
[04:11:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:The woman who called my Aunt was in tears - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:11:51] <exec> 08└─The woman who called my Aunt was in tears
[04:11:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02see that woman was a federal employee too - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:11:52] <exec> 08└─if it's this bad there's a good chance it could lead the US to lose a war.
[04:11:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02these were solved problems by 1989 - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 1216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:11:54] <exec> 08└─I expect quite a long time before that. IP packet headers have fields for the security classification as well as compartment. Routers will not transmit top secret packets to routers or to hosts that are not themselves top secret. the compartment is more or less a container for the subject matter. If...
[04:11:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Ha Ha Ha Ha .... - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:11:56] <exec> 08└─Adam Chandler writes in The Atlantic that last week it was revealed that all of the data on Standard Form 86 — filled out by millions of current and former military and intelligence workers — is now believed to be in the hands of Chinese hackers.
[04:11:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Ha Ha Ha Ha .... - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:11:57] <exec> 08└─preview preview preview ... couldn't have happened ...
[04:11:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ha Ha Ha Ha .... - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:11:59] <exec> 08└─> quit, and become a moral member of society. So you want all the people with a conscience out of government, thus assuring that the reigns of power are held solely by people without a conscience? You must be one of the later, just salivating at the thought of clearing out all those obstructionists.
[04:12:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02If only - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:12:00] <exec> 08└─one of our TLA agencies would use their knowledge for good, instead of evil. Nah, I'm living in a fantasy world. The people in power would rather be able to collect dirt on anyone, anytime, than protect everyone from hackers.
[04:12:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Grossly misleading poll result caption - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:12:22] <exec> 08└─Swift is like learning how variable valve timing works just to put on chrome valve covers?
[04:12:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03fleg [128] (Score:2) 02Re:Grossly misleading poll result caption - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:12:24] <exec> 08└─ok, first some context, i have about 15 years of c++, around 7 of java, couple of years c# My guess is that Swift is on the interesting to learn list because developers want to program the iPhone.
[04:12:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03fleg [128] (Score:2) 02Re:there's been a long thread on cocoa-dev lately - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 559 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:12:30] <exec> 08└─as ever, it depends on the context. where context means, among other things, how much power do you have, which cpu, how much memory, are you on baremetal or do you have an os etcetc so generally... dont write assembler if the context allows you to write c dont write c if the context allows you to wr...
[04:12:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03fleg [128] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:there's been a long thread on cocoa-dev lately - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:12:32] <exec> 08└─>I hear it's designed to prevent the kinds of bugs that cause crashes and security holes. well i cant speak on the security angle but i assure you that i have not noticed any tendency to "prevent the kinds of bugs that cause crashes" ;)
[04:12:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:hmmm - 06California Orders its Largest Water Cuts in History - 1689 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:12:51] <exec> 08└─No, not all crops are equally demanding. Corn is probably the one food crop that depletes the soil more than any other. The only thing I'm aware of that depletes the soil worse than corn, is cotton. But, the focus here is on thirst. Let me try to find something - http://waterinfotech.com
[04:13:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Long term? - 06California Orders its Largest Water Cuts in History - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:00] <exec> 08└─They need to stop assholes moving here
[04:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02"Some people never throw anything away" - 06Tolkien's First Fantasy Tale to be Published After 100 Years - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:36] <exec> 08└─Tom Lehrer said that to me in 1986 or so, when I asked him to autograph one of his albums from the 1950s.
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[05:11:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:see that woman was a federal employee too - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:11:51] <exec> 08└─if it's this bad there's a good chance it could lead the US to lose a war.
[05:11:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02Those Evil Three Letter Agencies: - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:11:56] <exec> 08└─"If only one of our TLA agencies would use their knowledge for good, instead of evil." Uh huh. The EPA has secretly been plotting to poison you with clean air all this time.
[05:11:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02obviously - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:11:57] <exec> 08└─This is terrible. Now give up more of your freedom.
[05:11:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02One minor upside: - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:11:59] <exec> 08└─Having that data compromised is awfully bad news for US intelligence/DOD/Law Enforcement. However, knowing that it's compromised is far better than still being standing there fat, dumb and happy with your critical personnel data pants undone. If it's true that this was found during a security produc...
[05:12:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Beryllium Sphere (r) (5062) (Score:3, Funny) 02This isn't original. Who said it first? - 06Medical Device Hijacking as Vector into Hospital Networks - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:12:10] <exec> 08└─Someone is going around calling the Internet of Things the Insanely Dangerous Internet Of Things or IDIOT for short.
[05:12:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Is there a link to a comparison chart? - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:12:35] <exec> 08└─What does it fix that other languages don't?
[05:14:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wait … - 06The World’s First Penis Transplant has Reportedly Resulted in a Pregnancy  - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:14:17] <exec> 08└─It wasn't a full transplant; it was more of an injection.
[05:17:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Re:All Sci-Fi must be Feminist - 06Trailer Released for Matt Damon's Film, "The Martian" - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:17:49] <exec> 08└─Riddick: I'm sure God has his tricks, but getting out places no one else can, that's one of is mine
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[06:11:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:2) 02More money = more fast? - 06Krita's Kickstarter Was a Success; Prepare to be Second-Fastest, Photoshop - 497 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:11:43] <exec> 08└─I'm confused. How did raising a bit of money to spend development time optimizing for speed come to equal soon-to-be-faster-than-Photoshop? The money they raised is a drop in the bucket compared to the amount Adobe has spent and continues to spend on Photoshop development. I'm all for making it fast...
[06:11:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Is it vaporware yet? - 06Krita's Kickstarter Was a Success; Prepare to be Second-Fastest, Photoshop - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:11:44] <exec> 08└─How do these Kickstarter projects work again? Does the money itself do the work? I've seen people ask for help with ambitious projects, and invariably some jerks come along and say, "Why not have a Kickstarter! Crowdfunding solves everything!" Trouble is, money doesn't actually do anything. Sometime...
[06:11:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02€30,000 is a lot of beer money! - 06Krita's Kickstarter Was a Success; Prepare to be Second-Fastest, Photoshop - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:11:46] <exec> 08└─Devs will be so drunk off their asses pissing away the funds for, wait, what were we supposed to be working on?
[06:12:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:see that woman was a federal employee too - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:12:02] <exec> 08└─"...could lead the US to lose a war." Have we won one lately? I can barely remember the last time we won.
[06:12:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Ha Ha Ha Ha .... - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:12:06] <exec> 08└─If you don't want to be covered in shit, don't swim in the cess pool. The US Federal Government has gone past a certain level of corruption from which recovery is impossible. You can either choose to swim in the shit and be tainted by it, or do something else, but you aren't going to turn a cess poo...
[06:12:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03BasilBrush [3994] (Score:2) 02Re:Does Swift have core benefits in practice? - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:12:34] <exec> 08└─* Hey cool we have written our own language that doesn't add anything than more book reading for you and fragmentation
[06:12:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03BasilBrush [3994] (Score:2) 02Re:Does Swift have core benefits in practice? - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:12:36] <exec> 08└─Remember the good old MS OLE and what it meant for VB*?
[06:12:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Does Swift have core benefits in practice? - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:12:37] <exec> 08└─However if you think Swift is in any way comparable to VB, you're a cluless idiot.
[06:12:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03BasilBrush [3994] (Score:2) 02Re:Grossly misleading poll result caption - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:12:44] <exec> 08└─But it's interesting in the same way you learn liberal arts to have sex with a girl.
[06:12:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03BasilBrush [3994] (Score:2) 02Re:Is there a link to a comparison chart? - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:12:54] <exec> 08└─Google is your friend.
[06:14:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:This offer is available exclusively through SN - 06[Expires 2015/06/17] Linux Foundation & edX Offer Second SysAdmin Course - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:14:17] <exec> 08└─But hurry! This offer ends Wednesday, June 17. Make sure you mention "gewg_" when you sign up
[06:14:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just because there's a high rate of penis amput - 06The World’s First Penis Transplant has Reportedly Resulted in a Pregnancy  - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:14:53] <exec> 08└─Generally, having doctors use sharp instruments on you isn't much of an option, unless being dead sounds like a good deal to you.
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[07:11:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:More money = more fast? - 06Krita's Kickstarter Was a Success; Prepare to be Second-Fastest, Photoshop - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:11:43] <exec> 08└─The money they raised is a drop in the bucket compared to the amount Adobe has spent and continues to spend on Photoshop development.
[07:11:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02na na na na na na FAST MAN! - 06Krita's Kickstarter Was a Success; Prepare to be Second-Fastest, Photoshop - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:11:46] <exec> 08└─Give money! We make Fast! You give Money!
[07:11:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03No Respect [991] (Score:2) 02Scam - 06Krita's Kickstarter Was a Success; Prepare to be Second-Fastest, Photoshop - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:11:47] <exec> 08└─Never heard of this project and it sounds like a scam. From TFA, "... digital paining software". And you want to be my latex salesman. Fucking idiots will believe anything.
[07:12:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:see that woman was a federal employee too - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:12:04] <exec> 08└─When was the last time you won one?
[07:12:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The woman who called my Aunt was in tears - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 543 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:12:06] <exec> 08└─Now everyone in the Red Block will know she suffers from the heartbreak of psiorisis! Is there no limit to what these commie bastards will stoop to? Especially the ones that we have reliable information that they are infected with gonnorea and syphylis, and cooties! Commie Cooties! Worst kind. Can'...
[07:12:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ha Ha Ha Ha .... - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:12:11] <exec> 08└─All that you have is words. No actions. No achievements. Not even character.
[07:12:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Those Evil Three Letter Agencies: - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:12:15] <exec> 08└─No, the EPA has only been plotting (and often succeeding) to destroy American businesses and send so much of our work overseas. There should be no government agency policing "pollution". There's no Constitutional mandate for it, the Founding Fathers envisioned no such thing, and it gets in the way o...
[07:12:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03fleg [128] 02Re:Grossly misleading poll result caption - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 196 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:12:47] <exec> 08└─ok, first some context, i have about 15 years of c++, around 7 of java, couple of years c# My guess is that Swift is on the interesting to learn list because developers want to program the iPhone.
[07:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:hmmm - 06California Orders its Largest Water Cuts in History - 1397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:13:19] <exec> 08└─Actually, though there is a fair amount of corn grown in California, Most is grown in the plains states. There is a lot you would miss and/or pay dearly for if California could not produce. California grows over 200 different crops, some grown nowhere else in the nation. Crops include grapes, almond...
[07:17:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:other uses for shop vacs - 06Super Cheap Vac Attachment Helps Find Small Dropped Parts - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:17:44] <exec> 08└─He said creative, not procreative.
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[08:11:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02An achievement - but perhaps too late? - 0668 Katy – 68000 Linux on a Solderless Breadboard  - 959 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:11:43] <exec> 08└─I'm pretty sure that anyone designing and building a fully working computer by this method will learn a great deal and, quite deservedly, feel proud of his/her achievement. He deserves credit for this and I hope that he does take it to the next stage as he describes in his story. But, other than as...
[08:11:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02the computer... - 0668 Katy – 68000 Linux on a Solderless Breadboard  - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:11:44] <exec> 08└─its awesome! And only three weeks... Also, 68000 is a good processor series... My old Sega megadrive had one.
[08:12:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Those Evil Three Letter Agencies: - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:26] <exec> 08└─The EPA has secretly been plotting to poison you with clean air all this time
[08:12:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03rleigh [4887] (Score:1) 02Online data - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:12:29] <exec> 08└─If the data is so important, why is the fact that the data was made accessible online not being strongly questioned? Did it need to be accessible in this way? I'm increasingly of the mind that we've connected too many systems to the global net which really don't need to be, and without real regard t...
[08:12:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03BasilBrush [3994] (Score:2) 02Re:Does Swift have core benefits in practice? - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:57] <exec> 08└─Really? Doesn't it serve for Apple the same purpose as the old VB did for MS?
[08:14:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wait … - 06The World’s First Penis Transplant has Reportedly Resulted in a Pregnancy  - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:59] <exec> 08└─the patient originally said "she" wanted a penis, so the surgeon cut one from some rapist that had been shot dead in the act, but he put it on the wrong way and she got preggers. now the surgeon is going around telling people that he is a proud father
[08:16:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:This is not what music is for. Ask any musician - 06Apple Music vs. Spotify et al - 968 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:16:31] <exec> 08└─Streaming music isn't about paying musicians [either performers or writers]. It's about the major record companies revenue. It effectively is a guaranteed, ever-increasing revenue. They pay jack-shit to 99.9 percent of their 'clients' [performers], likely using the rounding method [you only got a fe...
[08:17:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score:2) 02Re:And it'll be taught poorly - 06San Francisco Votes to Expand Computer Science Education Across all Grades - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:17:31] <exec> 08└─Someone who truly understands something will very likely be able to pass some poorly-designed standardized test with ease.
[08:20:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Smoke and mirrors - 06Samsung Targets Retailers with Mirror and Transparent OLED Panels - 1543 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:20:07] <exec> 08└─Tell me about it... I got pulled into a *cough* jewelry store *cough* over a reflective cutout that looked like a pretty salesclerk. I have no intention whatsoever of buying any jewelry - as I do not have a wife or girlfriend. But it did fool me as I thought it was a hologram. When I went to investi...
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[09:11:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02ideas on a useful way forward - 06Geeksphone Stops Support for FirefoxOS with No Warning - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:11:52] <exec> 08└─Make sure you recycle the corpse, the nature has done nothing wrong to suffer.
[09:11:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02The bootloader is likely the key - 06Geeksphone Stops Support for FirefoxOS with No Warning - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:11:53] <exec> 08└─Crack the bootloader? And why is a locked bootloader even allowed in a open source project? And what operating system will Geeksphone pursue now?
[09:12:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score:2) 02Re:old dupe - 0668 Katy – 68000 Linux on a Solderless Breadboard  - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:12:04] <exec> 08└─Probably posted every year since 1984. but I was not on SN then, so I don't know. Why the hell not use a 68020 - at least the memory management worked properly.
[09:12:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:old dupe - 0668 Katy – 68000 Linux on a Solderless Breadboard  - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:12:05] <exec> 08└─Mea culpa - I didn't notice the date when I submitted the story, and I'd edited the previous story too!
[09:12:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03epl [1801] (Score:1) 02Re:Scam - 06Krita's Kickstarter Was a Success; Prepare to be Second-Fastest, Photoshop - 1022 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:12:19] <exec> 08└─Ok, they made a typo and they SHOULD have found it before posting, but that doesn't automatically make this a scam. Krita has been around, in one for or another, for quite a long time. First as part of KDE's KOffice and later it was split off as its own entity entirely, with its own Foundation to ma...
[09:12:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ha Ha Ha Ha .... - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:12:43] <exec> 08└─Gee, good thing I lied on all my answers to form 86. Oh, wait, on most of my answers, and I am not telling which ones! Maybe it was the sexual orientation or loyalty to he Mormon church, I forget. Well, I am just happy that now somebody knows!
[09:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Does Swift have core benefits in practice? - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:13:19] <exec> 08└─it only runs on Apple
[09:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:An even bigger question: - 06Tolkien's First Fantasy Tale to be Published After 100 Years - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:14:38] <exec> 08└─Troll's and Grammar Nazi's worst nightmare. Witty correction, silence. Too obvious, or total whoosh? How can one tell? OK, here we go: unpublished works by a diseased deceased author
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[10:11:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02community projects are such shit - 06Geeksphone Stops Support for FirefoxOS with No Warning - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:11:48] <exec> 08└─Except Soylent, of course, it's the best. Have you read NiggerCommander's blog posts? They're massive, like where does he find the time to write whole books about how wonderful Soylent is? I can't wait for Soylent to die without warning! That's gonna be fucking awesome!
[10:11:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Not really understanding - 06Geeksphone Stops Support for FirefoxOS with No Warning - 1017 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:11:49] <exec> 08└─Alright - you have a Revolution phone. I hit Google, and it seems that the selling point of the Revolution is, you can switch between OS's. I went to this page, and it appears that you can still download images to load on your hardware - http://downloads.geeksphone.com [geeksphone.com] Maybe this p...
[10:11:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02so many options - 06Geeksphone Stops Support for FirefoxOS with No Warning - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:11:51] <exec> 08└─I'm also mad as hell.
[10:12:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score:2) 02Re:old dupe - 0668 Katy – 68000 Linux on a Solderless Breadboard  - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:12:02] <exec> 08└─1984? Not quite, kiddo! Try July 1981 [easy68k.com]. As for the 68020... I suspect you are missing the point of this project, but FYI, memory management was handled by a separate (optional) chip for the '020.
[10:12:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:2) 02Re:old dupe - 0668 Katy – 68000 Linux on a Solderless Breadboard  - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:12:04] <exec> 08└─I was happy to have my day brightened by seeing this story today/
[10:12:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Fluffeh [954] 02Ghost in the Shell style hacks are coming - 06Medical Device Hijacking as Vector into Hospital Networks - 278 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:12:58] <exec> 08└─I am always fascinated by good science fiction that makes solid predictions. I get that Ghost isn't that old, but still the original manga was written in 1989... that's a LONG way back to have an "internet of things" hacking of medical devices and so much about secure networks.
[10:13:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Beryllium Sphere (r) (5062) 02This isn't original. Who said it first? - 06Medical Device Hijacking as Vector into Hospital Networks - 116 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:13:01] <exec> 08└─Someone is going around calling the Internet of Things the Insanely Dangerous Internet Of Things or IDIOT for short.
[10:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Does Swift have core benefits in practice? - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:13:20] <exec> 08└─Does Swift have general and basic benefits over other languages?
[10:13:21] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Grossly misleading poll result caption - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 1498 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:13:21] <exec> 08└─One of StackOverflow's survey questions was, what languages would you be most interested in learning over the next 12 months (clearly, respondents were allowed to name more than one; many apparently named several). The top languages in the responses were: Swift 78 pct C++11 76 pct Rust 74 pct Go...
[10:15:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:Does it have working nerve transmission - feeli - 06The World’s First Penis Transplant has Reportedly Resulted in a Pregnancy  - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:15:29] <exec> 08└─To be fair, the one he had is broken, otherwise they would not be replacing it.
[10:18:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:other uses for shop vacs - 06Super Cheap Vac Attachment Helps Find Small Dropped Parts - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:18:30] <exec> 08└─Put it in reverse. Got mahself a bee gun.
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[11:12:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Does it have ... - 0690 Year Old Sailing Ship Puts Half of Iceland's Coast Guard Out of Action - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:12:33] <exec> 08└─Does Krusenstern have adamatium shields or are the Icelandic Coast Guard sailing tuna cans?
[11:12:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Does it have ... - 0690 Year Old Sailing Ship Puts Half of Iceland's Coast Guard Out of Action - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:12:34] <exec> 08└─More likely, the Krusenstern has unobtainium armor. http://www.zazzle.com [zazzle.com]
[11:12:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02but... it's iceland - 0690 Year Old Sailing Ship Puts Half of Iceland's Coast Guard Out of Action - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:12:36] <exec> 08└─Iceland's coast guard is comprised of four ships. one should take into account the size of Iceland ( http://i.imgur.com [imgur.com] ) and it has a population of 329K people. they dont really have a military (and arguably a comprehensible language :P) so i guess what i'm trying to say is....
[11:12:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02OT question - 06Geeksphone Stops Support for FirefoxOS with No Warning - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:12:49] <exec> 08└─i have a cellular telephone that is great for telephoning
[11:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rich [945] (Score:2) 02Krita business model - 06Krita's Kickstarter Was a Success; Prepare to be Second-Fastest, Photoshop - 1164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:13:20] <exec> 08└─This thing should be more or less a continuation of what they've been doing so far. There is a small community around head honcho Boudewijn Rempt, who are mostly too tied up to put massive manpower into grunt work. So, as they get contributions, they pay a few guys (e.g. Lukas Tvrdy, Dmitry Kazakov,...
[11:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:see that woman was a federal employee too - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:13:38] <exec> 08└─I would consider it a kind gesture and overture of friendship if the Chinese people would share that database with the American people. It's time to test how much the NSA and CIA have nothing to be afraid of if they're doing nothing wrong...
[11:13:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03hemocyanin [186] 02Re:Ha Ha Ha Ha .... - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 397 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:13:45] <exec> 08└─If you don't want to be covered in shit, don't swim in the cess pool. The US Federal Government has gone past a certain level of corruption from which recovery is impossible. You can either choose to swim in the shit and be tainted by it, or do something else, but you aren't going to turn a cess poo...
[11:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ha Ha Ha Ha .... - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:13:48] <exec> 08└─Not even character.
[11:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Ha Ha Ha Ha .... - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:13:50] <exec> 08└─That's why chipper talk about "working within the system to make it better" has gone from the naive, dewy-eyed sentiment it always was to fantastically absurd. It is not possible to patch a system this broken. The only thing you can do is wipe it and do a complete re-install.
[11:13:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02I want "hackers" to get every SSN - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:13:59] <exec> 08└─I want every single SSN to be available to these "hackers" (can people who exploit weak security really be called that?) - compomsise every SSN and make the system built around them simply fail completely. Then the SSN can no longer be used as a universal ID number for Americans. We'll have to come...
[11:14:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Does Swift have core benefits in practice? - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:30] <exec> 08└─This is a replacement of the professional languages both for apps and systems
[11:14:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is there a link to a comparison chart? - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:14:48] <exec> 08└─So Swift fixes the issue that Google is your friend? :-)
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[12:11:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:but... it's iceland - 0690 Year Old Sailing Ship Puts Half of Iceland's Coast Guard Out of Action - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:11:51] <exec> 08└─who wants to invade Iceland?
[12:11:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:but... it's iceland - 0690 Year Old Sailing Ship Puts Half of Iceland's Coast Guard Out of Action - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:11:51] <exec> 08└─> Iceland's coast guard is comprised of four ships. one should take into account the size of Iceland ( http://i.imgur.com [imgur.com] ) Given Iceland's location on the map you provided, I'm surprised they need any ships at all.
[12:11:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02Re:but... it's iceland - 0690 Year Old Sailing Ship Puts Half of Iceland's Coast Guard Out of Action - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:11:53] <exec> 08└─If you ever read Tom Clancy's Red Storm Rising [wikipedia.org], he has the Soviet Union conducting a surprise attack on Iceland to disable the NATO air station and SOSUS link there, so that their submarine fleet could surge into the Atlantic without being detected. I dunno if it would still make sen...
[12:11:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03No Respect [991] (Score:2) 02*Yawn* - 0690 Year Old Sailing Ship Puts Half of Iceland's Coast Guard Out of Action - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:11:55] <exec> 08└─Where's my coffee this morning? Oh.... hey, any CCP employees hurt in this incident? No? Sorry, don't care then. Now about that coffee..
[12:11:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimios [201] (Score:2) 02Re:*Yawn* - 0690 Year Old Sailing Ship Puts Half of Iceland's Coast Guard Out of Action - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:11:56] <exec> 08└─CCP employees hurt?! OMG what will happen to Eve Online now!
[12:11:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Clickbait - 0690 Year Old Sailing Ship Puts Half of Iceland's Coast Guard Out of Action - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:11:58] <exec> 08└─Nice clickbait title you got there. Why not just simply say it took out 2 ships? You can always add the humorous 90% figure to the summary instead. That way it can be both not-clickbait AND humorous.
[12:11:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Clickbait - 0690 Year Old Sailing Ship Puts Half of Iceland's Coast Guard Out of Action - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:11:59] <exec> 08└─50%*
[12:12:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Almost related: the perfect phone, except... - 06Geeksphone Stops Support for FirefoxOS with No Warning - 470 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:12:10] <exec> 08└─The perfect smartphone could be Fairphone + Replicant [1]. Replicant delevopers have said however that in the current Fairphone incarnation, the modem can spy the CPU... Should they manage to fix it that it's something I might buy. Until then I'll hang onto my (t)rusty 20 year old Nokia. 1 http://bl...
[12:12:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03terryk30 [1753] (Score:2, Interesting) 02the truth hurts - 0668 Katy – 68000 Linux on a Solderless Breadboard  - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:12:25] <exec> 08└─I've built several other DIY computer systems before, but never took their software beyond simple assembly language programs.
[12:12:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:More money = more fast? - 06Krita's Kickstarter Was a Success; Prepare to be Second-Fastest, Photoshop - 471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:12:35] <exec> 08└─Photoshop can take a while to load and use up a lot of memory due to plug-ins, but once it's going it's pretty fast. In fact modern versions use GPU acceleration for many operations. I'd be amazed if these guys can equal that. Perhaps for the very limited scope they are aiming for (cartoon drawing)...
[12:12:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03axsdenied [384] (Score:1) 02Re:Scam - 06Krita's Kickstarter Was a Success; Prepare to be Second-Fastest, Photoshop - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:12:42] <exec> 08└─Just because you never heard of Krita it does not mean it a scam. Either refrain from commenting or first spend 10 seconds on Google to find out about it. The project has been around for probably 10 years and it is part of KDE. Arguably some people say it is better than Gimp.
[12:12:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Don't like the punchline (faster than P********) - 06Krita's Kickstarter Was a Success; Prepare to be Second-Fastest, Photoshop - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:12:45] <exec> 08└─But I do congratulate them on their major victory on succeeding so will with fundraising!
[12:13:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:see that woman was a federal employee too - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:02] <exec> 08└─I would consider it a kind gesture and overture of friendship if the Chinese people would share that database with the American people.
[12:13:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I for one welcome our new Chinese overlords! - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:22] <exec> 08└─However, meet the new boss, the same as the old boss...
[12:13:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rich [945] (Score:2) 02Re:You can't patch that stuff - 06Medical Device Hijacking as Vector into Hospital Networks - 1352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:33] <exec> 08└─It doesn't help if the stuff is open. One can't simply patch a medical device if some problem arises. cf my comment at https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org] First, if device function or output is life-critical, you'll end up with months of work of validation and f...
[12:14:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Is there a link to a comparison chart? - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:13] <exec> 08└─I keep on seeing articles about how great Swift is.
[12:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02I want to like swift, but ... - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 1809 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:14] <exec> 08└─I'm not against Swift. I want to like it. The problem is that if you're not an Apple developer, it's just Yet Another Language to throw into the pile with all the other new languages. Even if Swift is great, and even if the open source (notice they don't call it free software) version catches on, it...
[12:14:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:It costs more to flush the toilet. - 06California Orders its Largest Water Cuts in History - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:58] <exec> 08└─Do you remember the standup routine this comes from? All I remember of it is the next step is something like "And thats why they contaminated weed with flouride" or something similar. Like most standup its only funny if you're drunk or high.
[12:16:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:Does it have working nerve transmission - feeli - 06The World’s First Penis Transplant has Reportedly Resulted in a Pregnancy  - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:16:08] <exec> 08└─If it ain't broke...
[12:16:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03kaszz [4211] 02Re:How awesome is that? - 06 Philae Comet Lander has Woken Up Again - 160 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:16:54] <exec> 08└─The problem is often that companies have a management style that turns people in to less than resilient marvels of engineering regardless of where they started.
[12:18:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:And it'll be taught poorly - 06San Francisco Votes to Expand Computer Science Education Across all Grades - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:18:41] <exec> 08└─You're right. I guess I was thinking more about actual math questions when I said that. If it's just rote memorizing random facts, it wouldn't really help.
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[13:11:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Dealing with the devil never seems to pay. - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 846 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:11:45] <exec> 08└─Microsoft is the devil in the digital world. Apple is only a major demon. Google a lesser demon. Thankfully, SCO is pretty much a dead demon. Dealing with Microsoft in any way, shape, or form is always detrimental to all parties except Microsoft. MS OS's have always been the most easily exploited OS...
[13:11:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02ass about... as usual - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:11:46] <exec> 08└─It's entirely the greedy corporations fault, cos the corrupt government officials responsible for awarding the contract to Microsoft had no choice... they were forced to take the bribes and favors.
[13:11:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] 02Re:but... it's iceland - 0690 Year Old Sailing Ship Puts Half of Iceland's Coast Guard Out of Action - 239 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:59] <exec> 08└─> Iceland's coast guard is comprised of four ships. one should take into account the size of Iceland ( http://i.imgur.com [imgur.com] ) Given Iceland's location on the map you provided, I'm surprised they need any ships at all.
[13:12:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03ThG [4568] (Score:2) 02Re:*Yawn* - 0690 Year Old Sailing Ship Puts Half of Iceland's Coast Guard Out of Action - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:12:03] <exec> 08└─Mr. G to the rescue!
[13:12:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Clickbait - 0690 Year Old Sailing Ship Puts Half of Iceland's Coast Guard Out of Action - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:12:06] <exec> 08└─nice fuck up now you're 10% troll and 90% stupid
[13:12:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Clickbait - 0690 Year Old Sailing Ship Puts Half of Iceland's Coast Guard Out of Action - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:12:08] <exec> 08└─Don't look, Ethel! https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[13:12:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:The bootloader is likely the key - 06Geeksphone Stops Support for FirefoxOS with No Warning - 762 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:12:18] <exec> 08└─Crack the bootloader? And why is a locked bootloader even allowed in a open source project? Because it's Mozilla, and much like the Libertarian Party (who once nominated the author of the Patriot Act for President because he was in the Borat movie), they are willing to compromise their ideals for wh...
[13:12:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:so many options - 06Geeksphone Stops Support for FirefoxOS with No Warning - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:12:24] <exec> 08└─Have any other remarks to let everyone else know just how great you are compared to every and anyone? I don't think we are yet fully able to appreciate the total overwhelming grandeur that is your ego.
[13:12:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03quixote [4355] (Score:2) 02Re:so many options - 06Geeksphone Stops Support for FirefoxOS with No Warning - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:12:25] <exec> 08└─"some of that anger should be for yourself" Yup. You probably noticed from the post that I'm kicking myself.
[13:12:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:Is it vaporware yet? - 06Krita's Kickstarter Was a Success; Prepare to be Second-Fastest, Photoshop - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:12:53] <exec> 08└─Well, if you have money, you don't need volunteers - you can have something called "staff" instead. Volunteers are great, but they often can't give as much time as they'd like, because they have other commitments (like a job) pulling them away from the project. If the project *is* their job, then su...
[13:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Pay Close Attention To The OS Running - 06Medical Device Hijacking as Vector into Hospital Networks - 994 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:51] <exec> 08└─In many cases, throughout in and out patent hospitals/services I continue to see WinXP running, and in every case it's like an OEM install - nothing on the desktop appears to have been changed, the large ugly bottom panel is there, original green landscape wallpaper, and their medical program(s). So...
[13:14:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] (Score:2) 02Re:there's been a long thread on cocoa-dev lately - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:25] <exec> 08└─And don't write perl unless your context allows you to delete the source code immediately after running the program once.
[13:15:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I've been out of work for five years - 06California Orders its Largest Water Cuts in History - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:15:24] <exec> 08└─It is my wish you receive employment ASAP. This will sound crazy but the movie THEY LIVE is a documentary. There are forces around us that control certain employment options, especially top tier. If you don't join their lodge or agree to jettiston your religion with their occult replacement, one may...
[13:15:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I've been out of work for five years - 06California Orders its Largest Water Cuts in History - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:15:25] <exec> 08└─Someone has misplaced their tin foil hat,
[13:15:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03bziman [3577] (Score:2) 02Re:but one does not have a RIGHT to a job - 06California Orders its Largest Water Cuts in History - 1699 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:15:26] <exec> 08└─If you read the American constitution closely, you'll find that any powers not specifically delegated to the federal government are reserved for the states or the people. That is why some of the founders were opposed to enumerating a bill of rights.... they were afraid of the confusion that might ar...
[13:19:51] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] 02Re:Who is Matt Damon? - 06Trailer Released for Matt Damon's Film, "The Martian" - 29 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:19:51] <exec> 08└─Wait, he's taking my job? ;-)
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[14:11:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Best of luck to 'em - 06US Congress Attempts to Close Loopholes and Block Funding for NSA Surveillance - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:11:43] <exec> 08└─The last time Congress tried to shut this thing down [eff.org] over 10 years ago, they simply renamed it, classified it more heavily, and continued on as if nothing had happened.
[14:11:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:ass about... as usual - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:53] <exec> 08└─It's the fault of both, of course.
[14:11:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Articelis Interruptus? - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:11:55] <exec> 08└─Somebody forgot to close a taggy? (I'm beginning to detect a pattern! ;)
[14:11:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaganar [605] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Verify - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:11:57] <exec> 08└─It is widely known, however, that voting machines in the US use Windows, which has back doors and therefore can never be trusted, with or without tampering by a human operator.
[14:11:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Disgusting - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:11:58] <exec> 08└─The government shouldn't even be using proprietary software, and especially not for something as important as voting. It's corporate welfare, restrictive, doesn't promote education, and you'll never really be able to check what it does or how it does it. You're beholden to some scummy corporation.
[14:11:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Disgusting - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:00] <exec> 08└─This is the US government, though: They're beholden to scummy corporations for almost everything, from bombers to drones to websites to roadways to space flight. Ever since Ronald Reagan, they've been positively allergic to the idea of hiring civil servants to do work for the public good.
[14:12:01] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02The real Free voting system - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 995 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:12:01] <exec> 08└─1. Put names on a lot of pieces of paper. 2. Put an empty box with a hole in the top on a table somewhere. Confirm that it's empty in full view of everybody. 3. Voters come in, take a piece of paper, put a check next to the name of the person they want in each office, and put the paper in a box. 4....
[14:12:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score:3, Insightful) 02What to do? - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 660 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:12:03] <exec> 08└─Question to Americans out there: how do you turn this into an "issue", i.e. extend the debate from the geeky techy media to mainstream media (doesn't have to be regular corporate media like Fox, but something like BBC, which seems to get lots of US folks, or equvalent). Can it be pushed to Microsoft...
[14:12:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03TWX [5124] (Score:1) 02Re:but... it's iceland - 0690 Year Old Sailing Ship Puts Half of Iceland's Coast Guard Out of Action - 545 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:14] <exec> 08└─Iceland is strategic in any cross-Atlantic circumstance involving air coverage or transport; there's not a lot of safe places for large aircraft to land, if they have an emergency, between the Northeastern tip of Canada and Scotland. Iceland is also potentially strategic for resupply of surface wars...
[14:12:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:2) 02Re:but... it's iceland - 0690 Year Old Sailing Ship Puts Half of Iceland's Coast Guard Out of Action - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:15] <exec> 08└─> but... it's iceland (Score:4, Insightful) > so i guess what i'm trying to say is... who wants to invade Iceland? :D Less insightful and more inciteful, I'd say.
[14:12:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Clickbait - 0690 Year Old Sailing Ship Puts Half of Iceland's Coast Guard Out of Action - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:24] <exec> 08└─Why not point out that it was the tugs that caused it. Using anything as a battering ram would have done it, regardless of age or technology.
[14:12:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Was Putin standing on the deck of the ship - 0690 Year Old Sailing Ship Puts Half of Iceland's Coast Guard Out of Action - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:12:25] <exec> 08└─Pounding his shoe on the rail after each ramming?
[14:12:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03quixote [4355] (Score:2) 02Re:Not really understanding - 06Geeksphone Stops Support for FirefoxOS with No Warning - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:37] <exec> 08└─"There seems to be no known method to sign a new bootloader image." That's what I'm afraid of. Like another commenter said: how is that even allowable on an open source project. And, as someone else said, Mozilla really is losing its shit. >:(
[14:12:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03subs [4485] (Score:2) 02Re:so many options - 06Geeksphone Stops Support for FirefoxOS with No Warning - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:43] <exec> 08└─i have a cellular telephone that is great for telephoning
[14:13:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:More money = more fast? - 06Krita's Kickstarter Was a Success; Prepare to be Second-Fastest, Photoshop - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:11] <exec> 08└─With the crap software that multibillion dollar companies are able to produce, overcoming them shouldn't be such a huge hurdle. Awful security and awful UIs. Just throwing obscene amounts of money at the problem doesn't always make things better.
[14:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:see that woman was a federal employee too - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:41] <exec> 08└─Forgot to check Post Anonymously there?
[14:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ha Ha Ha Ha .... - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 1372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:51] <exec> 08└─I don't think that you understand what you are talking about. The SF-86 is used as the form for a background check for clearances. As an example, I used to work in a "clearance required" facility. The janitor had a clearance. Many of the people who are federal employees are in the "normal employees,...
[14:14:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I want - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:00] <exec> 08└─I'd prefer it if we could just get our representatives to represent us and change the system the way that we, the people, would like. Unfortunately that doesn't seem to be possible anymore.
[14:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02My data - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 780 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:03] <exec> 08└─I protect my anime collection ten million times better than the government seems to protect any of their sensitive personnel data. Isn't that ridiculous? I don't buy all these random assertions that China is to blame each and every time this happens, though. I'd believe it if, and only if, a compete...
[14:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:2) 02SIGINT for everyone! - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 414 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:05] <exec> 08└─Bruce Schneier said it best: We've left the days of Soviets using Soviet PCs and Americans using American PCs behind. Everyone uses the same hardware and software. So when you leave zero-days out there for your use, or start building implants to hijack machines, or lobby for weakened crypto, you're...
[14:14:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:Does Swift have core benefits in practice? - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 581 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:31] <exec> 08└─I took a cursory look at Swift, and get the impression it's Python with curly braces instead of indentation (or, can think of it as C/C++ without semicolons and with better looping), with much simpler syntax for using the Objective C/C++/Cocoa libraries than Objective C/C++ itself. I think the relig...
[14:14:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:Haim is why I support software patents myself - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 1599 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:50] <exec> 08└─If you think algorithms should be patentable, then perhaps scientific discoveries and mathematical formulas should also be patentable? Should Einstein have been able to get a patent on e=mc^2? That many algorithms are genuinely innovative does not change the fundamental brokenness of the patent syst...
[14:16:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] 02Re:Maybe its time to stop... - 06The World’s First Penis Transplant has Reportedly Resulted in a Pregnancy  - 50 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:16:59] <exec> 08└─I wouldn't exactly call an 18-year old a baby-boy.
[14:18:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03OwMyBrain [5044] (Score:1) 02Re:Not Impressed..here's why.. - 06Microsoft Announces 55" and 84" Surface Hubs - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:18:16] <exec> 08└─Agreed. Our "Pomp and Circumstance" conference rooms have 60" TVs, which anyone in the meeting can use as a presentation display thanks to a $35 Chromecast.
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[15:11:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Exactly - 06US Congress Attempts to Close Loopholes and Block Funding for NSA Surveillance - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:47] <exec> 08└─When it comes to this kind of thing, there must be hangings and life sentences or none of the shutting down happened.
[15:11:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Exactly - 06US Congress Attempts to Close Loopholes and Block Funding for NSA Surveillance - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:48] <exec> 08└─There's this little constitutional clause called the "ex post facto" provision. Congress can't just arbitrarily punish people because they changed their mind about their own aggressively stupid legal language.
[15:11:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Exactly - 06US Congress Attempts to Close Loopholes and Block Funding for NSA Surveillance - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:49] <exec> 08└─There are many things in the constitution, and the government happily ignores so much of it. At the very least, there needs to be real punishments for politicians who vote for unconstitutional bills and people who violate the constitution.
[15:11:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:1, Flamebait) 02Re:Exactly - 06US Congress Attempts to Close Loopholes and Block Funding for NSA Surveillance - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:51] <exec> 08└─"I'm totally for the constitution, except when it's moderately inconvenient to how I'd act as a dictator" isn't the compelling argument you think it is.
[15:11:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score:2) 02Re:Exactly - 06US Congress Attempts to Close Loopholes and Block Funding for NSA Surveillance - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:53] <exec> 08└─The last seven or so US presidents beg to differ.
[15:11:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Exactly - 06US Congress Attempts to Close Loopholes and Block Funding for NSA Surveillance - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:54] <exec> 08└─Straw man. That's not what I said. Maybe you should reread my post, as I was making fun of the idea that the government actually cares about what the constitution says.
[15:11:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Exactly - 06US Congress Attempts to Close Loopholes and Block Funding for NSA Surveillance - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:56] <exec> 08└─If you're talking about the latter part, then I'm really not seeing how punishing those who violate the highest law of the land is an issue, but that doesn't relate to ex post facto. I guess it's an issue if you don't really want the government to obey the constitution.
[15:11:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Exactly - 06US Congress Attempts to Close Loopholes and Block Funding for NSA Surveillance - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:57] <exec> 08└─It's totally what you meant, though.
[15:11:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02NSA has a scope issue - 06US Congress Attempts to Close Loopholes and Block Funding for NSA Surveillance - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:11:59] <exec> 08└─The NSA has a scope issue. They are both directed to protect our communication resources and undermine them. Considering the sorry state our web resources are in at a federal level I would say they are failing at one of their jobs. Instead of spending so much time scooping up 'intel' perhaps they sh...
[15:12:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02The Sound of Thunder - 06US Congress Attempts to Close Loopholes and Block Funding for NSA Surveillance - 633 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:12:01] <exec> 08└─Perhaps the sound of approaching thunder and the word "revolution" carrying on the wind has begun to reach Congress. Good, so. They ought now to be mortally afraid of not doing the job they were hired to do, of enforcing the laws of our country and defending the Constitution against all enemies, for...
[15:12:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kilo110 [2853] (Score:2) 02Re:The Sound of Thunder - 06US Congress Attempts to Close Loopholes and Block Funding for NSA Surveillance - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:02] <exec> 08└─"Perhaps the sound of approaching thunder and the word "revolution" carrying on the wind has begun to reach Congress" too bad it's being drowned out by the sound of The Kardashians and the thousand other trivialities that have taken over national discourse
[15:12:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:The Sound of Thunder - 06US Congress Attempts to Close Loopholes and Block Funding for NSA Surveillance - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:04] <exec> 08└─Whilst I would be pleased to see such a change take place - but perhaps not as a result of blood spilling - I suspect that the average American will do nothing other than observe.
[15:12:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02It's been done before, hiding operations - 06US Congress Attempts to Close Loopholes and Block Funding for NSA Surveillance - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:12:05] <exec> 08└─A certain other C1A organization fought whole wars in secret. So why should this organization be hindered by that pesky government?
[15:12:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Verify - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 612 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:13] <exec> 08└─Processor - System management bus (SMB) might be compromised by extra firmware code in an MCU on said bus. The processor die itself may hide backdoors to subvert privilege separation and memory protection. Memory - Memory controllers may modify data on the fly. Hard disk - On disc controller may be...
[15:12:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Verify - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:15] <exec> 08└─Perfection is the enemy of good.
[15:12:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03orasio [5302] (Score:1) 02Re:The real Free voting system - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 694 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:19] <exec> 08└─What he said. Auditing is possible, open and easy for most voters, if you use paper. For electronic vote, it's impossible for closed systems, practically impossible for open ones. Universal accessibility is a lot easier to assess when dealing with paper. If anything, we have extensive experience the...
[15:12:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:The real Free voting system - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 3446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:20] <exec> 08└─That's how my state's voting works, pencil marks on scantron sheets fed into the machine, result available as quickly as someone wants to push a "results" button, paper ballots spot audited over the next week or so. If you incorrectly fill out your ballot the machine emits a foul noise and kicks the...
[15:12:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:The real Free voting system - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:22] <exec> 08└─get the illegal voters out, both outright illegals, and dead people and non-voters
[15:12:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03draconx [4649] (Score:2) 02Re:The real Free voting system - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 568 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:23] <exec> 08└─Indeed. Whether a voting computer runs free software or proprietary software does not matter for the voters, because voters are not running the software on their own computer. If the software is free, then others can make use of the four freedoms to change and modify that software to run on their ow...
[15:12:24] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] 02What to do? - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 660 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:12:25] <exec> 08└─Question to Americans out there: how do you turn this into an "issue", i.e. extend the debate from the geeky techy media to mainstream media (doesn't have to be regular corporate media like Fox, but something like BBC, which seems to get lots of US folks, or equvalent). Can it be pushed to Microsoft...
[15:12:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:What to do? - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:26] <exec> 08└─Wringing your hands and saying aint it bad is pointless. Mumbling about armed insurrection is farcical.
[15:12:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:What to do? - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:28] <exec> 08└─Find something immoral especially regarding SEX on those politicians that are in M$ pockets. It seems to be what works but it's not directly a sign of good debate.
[15:12:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Just as they collide, a SINGLE word, - 0690 Year Old Sailing Ship Puts Half of Iceland's Coast Guard Out of Action - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:35] <exec> 08└─Understandable in EVERY language: "GILLIGAN!"
[15:12:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02Re:but... it's iceland - 0690 Year Old Sailing Ship Puts Half of Iceland's Coast Guard Out of Action - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:38] <exec> 08└─Don't worry, the Brits already invaded Iceland once (and the USA kinda also immediately after) https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[15:13:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Not really understanding - 06Geeksphone Stops Support for FirefoxOS with No Warning - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:04] <exec> 08└─I guess the question is, how does one find the key.pem? Seems like Geeksphone should be able to supply it to the community.
[15:13:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:OT question - 06Geeksphone Stops Support for FirefoxOS with No Warning - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:08] <exec> 08└─Thanks.
[15:13:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:so many options - 06Geeksphone Stops Support for FirefoxOS with No Warning - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:13] <exec> 08└─* only invest in portable computers that have the complete source or not at all.
[15:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03BigMcGuire [5510] (Score:1) 02Re:An achievement - but perhaps too late? - 0668 Katy – 68000 Linux on a Solderless Breadboard  - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:24] <exec> 08└─This is exactly what I was thinking. I know a lot of kids today have no clue how a computer works. I myself, I know I'd like to learn this. Having graduated high school in 2003 - I've always looked back at the golden days of computing with envy. Amazing the learning material available today.
[15:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:More money = more fast? - 06Krita's Kickstarter Was a Success; Prepare to be Second-Fastest, Photoshop - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:43] <exec> 08└─Photoshop can take a while to load and use up a lot of memory due to plug-ins, but once it's going it's pretty fast. In fact modern versions use GPU acceleration for many operations.
[15:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Is it vaporware yet? - 06Krita's Kickstarter Was a Success; Prepare to be Second-Fastest, Photoshop - 663 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:46] <exec> 08└─With Krita, these fundraisers are used to pay for dedicated development while simultaneously allowing the community to help choose the developers' priorities by letting backers vote for the features they want most. They already have a couple developers to do the work (though more would be welcome I'...
[15:13:52] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Rich [945] 02Krita business model - 06Krita's Kickstarter Was a Success; Prepare to be Second-Fastest, Photoshop - 1164 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:53] <exec> 08└─This thing should be more or less a continuation of what they've been doing so far. There is a small community around head honcho Boudewijn Rempt, who are mostly too tied up to put massive manpower into grunt work. So, as they get contributions, they pay a few guys (e.g. Lukas Tvrdy, Dmitry Kazakov,...
[15:14:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:these were solved problems by 1989 - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:10] <exec> 08└─I expect some joker had the idea in his head that you could control a supersonic fighter plane with a PC from Fry's.
[15:14:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:see that woman was a federal employee too - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 599 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:14] <exec> 08└─The data was taken from the evil overlords, so presumably they have copies already. Between the Chinese, evil overlords, and the American people the only party that doesn't have a copy is the last. There are many other ways for Americans to crowdsource intelligence on the criminal gang in DC, but if...
[15:14:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:see that woman was a federal employee too - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:16] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure exactly what you meant about employment
[15:14:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:see that woman was a federal employee too - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:19] <exec> 08└─When was the last time you won one?
[15:14:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:One minor upside: - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:36] <exec> 08└─I don't get that: did OPM allow a security vendor to demo SomeProduct 2.0 on a real, live government network with sensitive personally-identifying data and confessed holy-of-holies secrets on that network? Does OPM drop their pants for lots of vendors?
[15:14:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:SIGINT for everyone! - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:43] <exec> 08└─Everyone uses the same hardware and software. ... We're all in this together. Even our enemies.
[15:15:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:there's been a long thread on cocoa-dev lately - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:34] <exec> 08└─And don't write perl unless your context allows you to delete the source code immediately after running the program once.
[15:15:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:there's been a long thread on cocoa-dev lately - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:35] <exec> 08└─so generally... dont write assembler if the context allows you to write c dont write c if the context allows you to write c++ dont write c++ if the context allows you to write java/c#/swift dont write java/c#/swift if the context allows you to write perl/ruby/python
[15:15:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I want to like swift, but ... - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:43] <exec> 08└─Not typing your variables isn't natural!!!
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[16:11:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Trade Agreements - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:42] <exec> 08└─Would serving warrants to companies like this, and thus destroying their businesses be covered by some of the ridiculous trade agreement features that entitles businesses to compensation when legislation costs them profit? Obviously these "give us everything you have on everyone" warrants and NSLs a...
[16:11:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:Trade Agreements - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:43] <exec> 08└─Would serving warrants to companies like this, and thus destroying their businesses be covered by some of the ridiculous trade agreement features that entitles businesses to compensation when legislation costs them profit?
[16:11:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02How to keep out the bad people but not the good? - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:44] <exec> 08└─Any idea on how to keep bad people out of secure services while still allowing for people that actually need to make use of it? It's going to be a tough question. The answer will not likely be perfect but perhaps one can improve the probabilities?
[16:11:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:How to keep out the bad people but not the good - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 625 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:46] <exec> 08└─I don't think there is. Part of the problem is that when one of these companies gets a request, they cannot disclose. This requires them to use a warrant canary which to anyone with a clue indicates that the entire service may now be compromised. If they were allowed to disclose the number of warran...
[16:11:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:How to keep out the bad people but not the good - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:48] <exec> 08└─It's quite simple, just require use of the evil bit [wikipedia.org]
[16:11:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Ain't happening. - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 1066 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:49] <exec> 08└─Some pretty smart people have decided that it's NOT possible. Visit https://geti2p.net [geti2p.net] It is perfectly safe to download and install their software, I've done it numerous times. Fire up an instance of the service, and browse it. It might take you a few attempts to get it all configur...
[16:11:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Better solution - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 1443 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:51] <exec> 08└─A better solution than a warrant canary is to make sure there's no useful data for the authorities to get. Then you don't have to fear a gag order, since there's nothing useful the three-letter agency could get through it. In particular, end-to-end encryption with a key not stored at the communicati...
[16:11:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03cykros [989] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Better solution - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 726 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:52] <exec> 08└─The VPN I use runs their systems in RAM (nothing persistent), keeps no log files, and can even generate a token out of a hash of your user/pass, while completely removing all record of your signup (be prepared for no support of course, as they don't have a way to prove you're a customer). More priva...
[16:12:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Exactly - 06US Congress Attempts to Close Loopholes and Block Funding for NSA Surveillance - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:07] <exec> 08└─No, it isn't, and you're a bad mind reader.
[16:12:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Exactly - 06US Congress Attempts to Close Loopholes and Block Funding for NSA Surveillance - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:08] <exec> 08└─Oh come the fuck on. You said congress ignores the constitution all the time, thus let's do it now. It's not "mind reading", it's you being a shitty fucking hypocrite,
[16:12:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Exactly - 06US Congress Attempts to Close Loopholes and Block Funding for NSA Surveillance - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:09] <exec> 08└─You said congress ignores the constitution all the time, thus let's do it now.
[16:12:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Exactly - 06US Congress Attempts to Close Loopholes and Block Funding for NSA Surveillance - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:11] <exec> 08└─Yeah, yeah, context is meaningless. I pointed out a constitutional reason not to do a thing, you went, "nuh uh we ignore the constitution all the time". This is basic fucking conversational inference, and this is the dumbest meta-debate. Own your stupid opinion, please.
[16:12:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Exactly - 06US Congress Attempts to Close Loopholes and Block Funding for NSA Surveillance - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:13] <exec> 08└─Context isn't meaningless. I pointed out that the government clearly doesn't care about the constitution, so there's no reason that ex post facto would stop them. I did not say ignoring the constitution was a good idea; that's a straw man. It's pretty arrogant to try to tell me what I intended.
[16:12:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Exactly - 06US Congress Attempts to Close Loopholes and Block Funding for NSA Surveillance - 1151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:14] <exec> 08└─It is logically inconsistent to rely on a legal technicality to excuse the government from violating the 4th Amendment. In other words, it would be to excuse the criminals in DC from blatantly, egregiously breaking the bedrock laws meant to protect the American people from them, the criminals in DC,...
[16:12:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Exactly - 06US Congress Attempts to Close Loopholes and Block Funding for NSA Surveillance - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:16] <exec> 08└─American school kids that took civics tend to be in their 40's these days...
[16:12:17] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02Re:The Sound of Thunder - 06US Congress Attempts to Close Loopholes and Block Funding for NSA Surveillance - 215 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:18] <exec> 08└─The people whose world revolves around the magazines in the checkout line are not those who change the world. They never have been, and they never will be. That job falls to others for whom freedom is indispensable.
[16:12:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:The Sound of Thunder - 06US Congress Attempts to Close Loopholes and Block Funding for NSA Surveillance - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:20] <exec> 08└─You are right, and that is backed up by historical fact. The average American has always done nothing, no matter what was happening. But it is the Americans who are not average that count.
[16:12:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Disgusting - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 1174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:38] <exec> 08└─No, it isn't that insidious. You had the embarrassing debacle of Florida in 2000 with all the butterfly ballots, hanging chads, recounts, not allowing recounts, etc. Clearly all this would never have happened if it was all electronic, etc., etc. This is the 21st Century and all; it's embarrassing th...
[16:12:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:The real Free voting system - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:43] <exec> 08└─I have no real comment as to absolute level. As to relative level, yeah, I'd stand by those strategies being the best and most likely. Now if we had un-auditable windows PCs full of malware, then that would be the best bet, but not having them, the relatively best strategy is going to be as listed a...
[16:12:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02I'm not sure it's possible - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 1158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:49] <exec> 08└─The information is out there. It is presented from many points of view, and it's available to anyone who cares to look at it. Mainstream Media doesn't even bother trying to squash the information, because people just don't look. http://original.livestream.com [livestream.com] https://www.f...
[16:14:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:na na na na na na FAST MAN! - 06Krita's Kickstarter Was a Success; Prepare to be Second-Fastest, Photoshop - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:14] <exec> 08└─You need one more "na na".
[16:15:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02playing wit fire - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 653 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:10] <exec> 08└─well uhm ... supposedly just looking at this article least comment on it will probably get you on some radar; i just want to say that is bad news. something i have learned in my life is never to tell an american to "look in the mirror" because come hell or high-water them 'mericans are unforgiving....
[16:15:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03BasilBrush [3994] (Score:2) 02Re:Does Swift have core benefits in practice? - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:45] <exec> 08└─You shouldn't be excited at all. You hate Apple and thus won't be using it. Some of the more open minded language experimenters will though.
[16:15:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03BasilBrush [3994] (Score:2) 02Re:Does Swift have core benefits in practice? - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:47] <exec> 08└─Really. Because... you know?... there's never going to be a relation between siblings, it will always be an asymmetrical parent-child-like relationship. Yes, circular lists or bidi-graphs with cycles are evil constructs one is never going to need in practice.
[16:16:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:EFficiency - 06California Orders its Largest Water Cuts in History - 651 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:39] <exec> 08└─There's a lot about water rights laws that make 19th century assumptions. [medium.com] Like that water rights should be consistent year-to-year, a carry-over from when we couldn't predict year-level climate or melts, or that the first farm to request them has more rights than new arrivals. Or the bi...
[16:18:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Circumcision much riskier after infancy - 06The World’s First Penis Transplant has Reportedly Resulted in a Pregnancy  - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:18:44] <exec> 08└─A 12-yr old with an endless woody? Yup, it must have been the circumcision...
[16:18:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03cloud.pt [5516] (Score:1) 02Too soon for a party... - 06The World’s First Penis Transplant has Reportedly Resulted in a Pregnancy  - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:18:45] <exec> 08└─Until a DNA test proves this, I'm skeptic about it. After all, how can you trust on the faithfulness of a wife whose husband was john-less for whatever long (pun intended :D)...
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[17:11:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Trade Agreements - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:49] <exec> 08└─If they were able to prove it they'd likely wake up in the reknown vacation resort Gitmo one morning.
[17:11:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score:2) 02Re:How to keep out the bad people but not the good - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:53] <exec> 08└─I always have my Evil Bit enabled on all packets. It is obvious that any and all information has a potential for harm. Therefore, by extension, all data that is transmitted, however innocuous it may seem, must be a potential threat and requires to be marked as such. I am proud to serve all my data w...
[17:11:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:How to keep out the bad people but not the good - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 509 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:56] <exec> 08└─I hate Durka-durka scum as much as any right-thinking Westerner, but ISIS rose only because of needless U.S. meddling in the Middle-East. Whether you believe that ISIS rose because of America's failure to secure the region or because they are American-funded useful idiots, or both, is moot -- the fa...
[17:11:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zal42 [5435] (Score:1) 02Re:How to keep out the bad people but not the good - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 523 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:58] <exec> 08└─It's impossible without severely compromising security (thus rendering the system pointless). In the first place, you'd have to define "bad people". That's not nearly as straightforward as it may seem. But assuming that you can manage to do this, you'd have to keep a list of the "bad people" who are...
[17:12:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Informative) 02subjected - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:12:01] <exec> 08└─If they don't have any info to give to the authorities (by design), do they even need a warrant canary? (This clarifies [surespot.me] that they do keep information on users. Not as much as other services, but perhaps too much)
[17:12:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Re:subjected - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:03] <exec> 08└─The government has decided that warrants can compel you to gather information to turn over to them (never mind that whirring sound, the founding fathers just hit 600RPM in their graves). So they would presumably get a warrant saying "add code to your system to start gathering this data for us, then...
[17:12:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Chopped-up article = confusing summary - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:12:04] <exec> 08└─There's good reason to believe this is true.
[17:12:24] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02Re:Exactly - 06US Congress Attempts to Close Loopholes and Block Funding for NSA Surveillance - 1151 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:24] <exec> 08└─It is logically inconsistent to rely on a legal technicality to excuse the government from violating the 4th Amendment. In other words, it would be to excuse the criminals in DC from blatantly, egregiously breaking the bedrock laws meant to protect the American people from them, the criminals in DC,...
[17:12:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Exactly - 06US Congress Attempts to Close Loopholes and Block Funding for NSA Surveillance - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:27] <exec> 08└─I took civics over 30 years ago and it was taught as horribly as everything else. Fortunately I had the drive to educate myself, but not everyone does.
[17:12:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03penguinoid [5331] (Score:1) 02Re:Exactly - 06US Congress Attempts to Close Loopholes and Block Funding for NSA Surveillance - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:28] <exec> 08└─Ignorance of the law does not excuse breaking it. Too bad there doesn't seem to be any punishment for violating the Constitution...
[17:12:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02The Sound of Thunder - 06US Congress Attempts to Close Loopholes and Block Funding for NSA Surveillance - 633 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:12:31] <exec> 08└─Perhaps the sound of approaching thunder and the word "revolution" carrying on the wind has begun to reach Congress. Good, so. They ought now to be mortally afraid of not doing the job they were hired to do, of enforcing the laws of our country and defending the Constitution against all enemies, for...
[17:12:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03kaganar [605] 02Verify - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 176 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:12:48] <exec> 08└─It is widely known, however, that voting machines in the US use Windows, which has back doors and therefore can never be trusted, with or without tampering by a human operator.
[17:12:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Disgusting - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:54] <exec> 08└─Except that our system is so hopelessly corrupt, and our politicians always so 'conveniently' ignorant when it counts, that it is unreasonable to suggest that mere stupidity is a satisfactory explanation.
[17:13:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:The real Free voting system - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:01] <exec> 08└─That's simply incorrect. Being able to verify what the machine is doing and what code it's running is very important, because voting affects us all. It doesn't matter if it happens on our own computers or not; software freedom is important in government. It should simply be illegal for the governmen...
[17:13:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdccdevel [1329] (Score:2) 02Look to Alberta, Canada - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 1253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:05] <exec> 08└─Many people here in Alberta used to think the exact same thing as you just did. Baby Boomer demographics seemed to dictate that we would have the same party in power as had always been in power. Why bother voting, it's never going to make a difference, etc. Voter apathy was rampant. A single party h...
[17:13:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm not sure it's possible - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 641 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:08] <exec> 08└─Well somehow Snowden managed to hit a lot of headlines. I don't know how it is in the US, but in UK it is a pretty big deal - still hitting top headlines every now and then. You probably need a reportable event that you can put in front of the media, even if it is just a report being issued or somet...
[17:13:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:I'm not sure it's possible - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 438 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:10] <exec> 08└─Yep, this is it. If any nationwide attention is to be brought to this, it's gonna be muh Snowden and muh government spying and manipulating. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to learn that the NSA or other rogue elements within the government were already electronically manipulating votes, altho...
[17:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Was Putin standing on the deck of the ship - 0690 Year Old Sailing Ship Puts Half of Iceland's Coast Guard Out of Action - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:35] <exec> 08└─He was posing shirtless as the figurehead.
[17:14:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:That is swonden fault - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:14:51] <exec> 08└─To the moderator who modded disagree is it a case of wooosh or to you disagree with the sarcastic interpretation?
[17:15:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03bitrotRnotbitrot [5444] (Score:1) 02Re:Those Evil Three Letter Agencies: - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:20] <exec> 08└─As someone who has never been to the US or met many Americans in person, I can never tell if these type of comments are legit American opinions or just somebody making fun.
[17:15:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03BasilBrush [3994] 02Re:Does Swift have core benefits in practice? - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 118 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:59] <exec> 08└─* Hey cool we have written our own language that doesn't add anything than more book reading for you and fragmentation
[17:16:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is there a link to a comparison chart? - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:32] <exec> 08└─I keep on seeing articles about how great Swift is.
[17:17:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:2) 02Re:Nuclear Power and Desalination - 06California Orders its Largest Water Cuts in History - 763 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:15] <exec> 08└─"They need nuclear power from some inland states away from the faults, and desalination plants along the coast and along the bay. It's not rocket science, but maneuvering this through California's dysfunctional political system will be harder to do." California's really well good luck getting nuclea...
[17:17:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:2) 02Re:It costs more to flush the toilet. - 06California Orders its Largest Water Cuts in History - 1091 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:22] <exec> 08└─"Takes a lot of electricity to run a sewage treatment plant, and labor, too." Meh not really depends on the design. We finally got one round here 5-10 years ago it is a multi-pond design that does it naturally with the raw sewage treated for the un-natural products to be removed then once that is do...
[17:17:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:2) 02Re:It costs more to flush the toilet. - 06California Orders its Largest Water Cuts in History - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:23] <exec> 08└─And I would add since the wind farm is right next to it the electricity that powers it is all natural as well it is a rare day I don't see them turbines moving around here.
[17:17:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Re:I've been out of work for five years - 06California Orders its Largest Water Cuts in History - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:34] <exec> 08└─Someone has misplaced their tin foil hat,
[17:18:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:This offer is available exclusively through SN - 06[Expires 2015/06/17] Linux Foundation & edX Offer Second SysAdmin Course - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:18:12] <exec> 08└─Wow, my Poe's Law meter just broke. Someone please tell me if this is sarcasm or reality.
[17:18:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03penguinoid [5331] (Score:1) 02Re:This was - 06The World’s First Penis Transplant has Reportedly Resulted in a Pregnancy  - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:18:58] <exec> 08└─No, the dick move was performed by the surgeon who did the transplant.
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[18:11:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:How to keep out the bad people but not the good - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:00] <exec> 08└─That isn't necessary, and would only compromise good people. The real question is: How do we keep the government from violating our rights? That's the real threat, not "bad people" making use of encryption.
[18:12:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tramii [920] (Score:2) 02Re:Better solution - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:03] <exec> 08└─What is the name of this VPN?
[18:12:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Re:subjected - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 637 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:06] <exec> 08└─I rarely hear it mentioned, but I don't think it's much of a stretch to assume that the NSA/FBI et al could also compel companies to make untrue statements as part of their National Security letters. They could compel the company to keep a warrant canary up, for example. They could force the company...
[18:12:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Best of luck to 'em - 06US Congress Attempts to Close Loopholes and Block Funding for NSA Surveillance - 178 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:12:16] <exec> 08└─The last time Congress tried to shut this thing down [eff.org] over 10 years ago, they simply renamed it, classified it more heavily, and continued on as if nothing had happened.
[18:12:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:Disgusting - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 942 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:00] <exec> 08└─"Don't attribute to malice"?! Recount button, LOL. More appropriate is the saying America was founded on: "power corrupts". There is no reason to take anything on trust where verification is so relatively trivial. We should trust Diebold, when it would be so easy for them to hand over the source cod...
[18:13:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:The real Free voting system - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 974 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:08] <exec> 08└─There is no multi-million dollar contract in paper ballots for anyone. There is for electronic voting. Really, though, electronic voting makes formal what most American voters have suspected for a long time, that voting for change is a scam, and that voting only exists to fabricate the illusion of c...
[18:13:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Look to Alberta, Canada - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:12] <exec> 08└─YOUR VOTE MATTERS.
[18:13:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'm not sure it's possible - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:18] <exec> 08└─Visit Youtube, and search for videos of polls. It's downright embarrasing, I swear that these people are more closely related to monkeys than any sapient race . . . " rel="url2html-25009">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRZZpk_9k8E
[18:14:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Krita business model - 06Krita's Kickstarter Was a Success; Prepare to be Second-Fastest, Photoshop - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:48] <exec> 08└─Faster is good for their business model. The main complaint I've heard about Krita is it's speed and RAM eating. And arting with lag is pain enough to not use the program.
[18:15:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03arulatas [3600] (Score:2) 02Re:Ha Ha Ha Ha .... - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:15:25] <exec> 08└─What about those that did leave? Now their data is out.
[18:16:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03BasilBrush [3994] 02Re:Does Swift have core benefits in practice? - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 77 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:16] <exec> 08└─Really? Doesn't it serve for Apple the same purpose as the old VB did for MS?
[18:17:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:It costs more to flush the toilet. - 06California Orders its Largest Water Cuts in History - 1133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:17:36] <exec> 08└─Hmm I suppose there are two strategies to getting enough O2 in there to keep it aerobic and react everything, one is pump tons of compressed air and use all manner of sprayers and stuff like our city does and the other is to use a really freaking big pond, as obviously an entire great lake's worth o...
[18:18:41] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] 02Wait … - 06The World’s First Penis Transplant has Reportedly Resulted in a Pregnancy  - 55 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:18:41] <exec> 08└─You are getting pregnant by getting a penis transplant?
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[19:11:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03ThG [4568] (Score:2) 02Well - 06FBI-Seized MegaUpload Domain Still in Limbo after DNS Hijacking - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:41] <exec> 08└─The FBI failed to renew the domain on April 1
[19:11:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02sophisticated - 06FBI-Seized MegaUpload Domain Still in Limbo after DNS Hijacking - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:42] <exec> 08└─Yes, our law enforcement officers are very technically sophisticated. [/sarcasm] What's funny, these guys work for the same government that will lock you up if you're delinquent on your taxes. Or sell your home at auction if you're delinquent on property taxes. Maybe I'll go watch some Keystone Cops...
[19:11:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Down boy - 06Researchers Design Sonar-Based Contactless Sleep Monitoring - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:51] <exec> 08└─The phone speaker sends out an inaudible sound
[19:12:03] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Whoever [4524] 02Re:How to keep out the bad people but not the good - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 67 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:04] <exec> 08└─It's quite simple, just require use of the evil bit [wikipedia.org]
[19:12:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:How to keep out the bad people but not the good - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:06] <exec> 08└─ACK! Your point if view has infected my thinking! I too must set the Evil Bit on everything. If you'll need me, I'll be in my basement downloading Gentoo, readind man pages about compiling with the Evil Bit, and booting without systemd on a modern kernal!
[19:12:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Better solution - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:15] <exec> 08└─so how do you pay?
[19:12:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Exactly - 06US Congress Attempts to Close Loopholes and Block Funding for NSA Surveillance - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:44] <exec> 08└─You would think if they wanted us plebs to understand the law and the laws they have written, they would be in English, or at the very least the teach Latin in the public schools.
[19:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:old dupe - 0668 Katy – 68000 Linux on a Solderless Breadboard  - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:38] <exec> 08└─Look I know you come the site everyday. You also remember every story posted. I dont on either of those accounts. This is new to me. I also do not dig thru the archives...
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[20:11:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:sophisticated - 06FBI-Seized MegaUpload Domain Still in Limbo after DNS Hijacking - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:43] <exec> 08└─Keystone Kops maybe, but notice when it is convenient for our Big Brother Government narrative, then they are slicker than a Hollywood portrayal and every burp and fart is recorded and merged into an international tracking database.
[20:11:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bill Evans [1094] (Score:1) 02die hard - 06FBI-Seized MegaUpload Domain Still in Limbo after DNS Hijacking - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:11:44] <exec> 08└─"You asked for miracles, Theo, I give you the FBI. "
[20:11:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03LaminatorX [14] (Score:2) 02too late for me - 06Researchers Design Sonar-Based Contactless Sleep Monitoring - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:11:53] <exec> 08└─Man, I wish that had been around a couple of weeks back when I got tested. They scrubbed my skin raw in a couple of places before attaching the electrodes, and despite the antiseptic lotion and a shower the next morning a couple of the 'trode sites developed minor infections (I am fine now, well, ap...
[20:11:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Batman did it first - 06Researchers Design Sonar-Based Contactless Sleep Monitoring - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:11:55] <exec> 08└─Seriously, I'm getting pretty worried at the number of ways our cell phones can track us and everything and everyone around us. Sonar precise enough to measure breathing? The CIA/KGB/Mossad must be having a field day! (remind me why any of our enemies are still alive?) Where's my leaded Faraday cage...
[20:11:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Batman did it first - 06Researchers Design Sonar-Based Contactless Sleep Monitoring - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:56] <exec> 08└─Put your phone in airplane mode (before it's made obsolete by legislation allowing you to use electronic devices at all times on flight). Then wrap it in a sleeve of aluminium foil. Try calling or texting your phone when it is not in airplane mode but is wrapped in the foil. The phone's silence will...
[20:12:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Better solution - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:21] <exec> 08└─I have no idea how he pays, but I could imagine a system where you pay with bitcoins, have the bitcoin transaction contain a public key, and as authentication have to provide the bitcoin transaction ID signed with the corresponding private key as proof that you were the one doing the payment.
[20:12:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonymousCowardNoMore [5416] (Score:1) 02Re:Better solution - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:22] <exec> 08└─Needlessly complicated. Bitcoin encourages you to create a new key for every client which trivially tells you who paid. However, the BTC not really anonymous. Even the best possible laundering^W mixing services will leave tracks. Permanently, in the blockchain.
[20:12:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:subjected - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:26] <exec> 08└─Of course with Open Source you cannot easily lie about the encryption used because it's right there in the source code.
[20:12:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:subjected - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:28] <exec> 08└─as I understand it (reading some smart-sounding explanations) the gov cannot compel you to lie. they can compel you to NOT say things but forcing someone to lie is even beyond what the US would currently, in its infinite regression, do. this is the point of the canary. its not a lie to say you have...
[20:12:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Encryption App - USA Server - !!!??? - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 714 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:12:30] <exec> 08└─I'm pretty sure it has been discussed to death by the internet intelligentsia that you should NOT use USA-based servers for products or services like this. So why the fuck is Surespot using a USA-based server !!!??? I have had enough of these stories about these types of companies founded in the USA...
[20:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdccdevel [1329] (Score:2) 02Re:Look to Alberta, Canada - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 2922 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:36] <exec> 08└─It's obvious from you're comments that you feel completely disenfranchised, and I can't say I disagree with your reasons. The trends that you speak of are definitely real, and your political process is in definite need of some reform. That said, you are wrong about your vote. Actually getting out an...
[20:14:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:*Yawn* - 0690 Year Old Sailing Ship Puts Half of Iceland's Coast Guard Out of Action - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:03] <exec> 08└─It will get better. In unrelated news, the sales figures of Nerf Bats have just taken a massive hit. [instantrimshot.com]
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[21:11:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Informative) 02some more - 06Russia, China Alledgedly Crack Snowden Files - 460 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:11:42] <exec> 08└─Brilliant interview with the reporter [cnn.com] Questions About The Sunday Times Snowden Story [rjgallagher.co.uk] The Sunday Times' Snowden Story is Journalism at its Worst - and Filled with Falsehoods [firstlook.org] 'Snowden risked lives' fearfest story prompts sceptical sneers: Anon murmurs fool...
[21:11:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Cracked? Harm? TOTAL PROPAGANDA WAR BULLSHIT! - 06Russia, China Alledgedly Crack Snowden Files - 922 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:43] <exec> 08└─The CORE Sunday Times claim, that Miranda met Snowden before his UK detention - has been withdrawn, when they were caught lying: http://www.theguardian.com [theguardian.com]   Craig Murray: Five Reasons the MI6 Story is a Lie...
[21:11:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Cracked? Harm? TOTAL PROPAGANDA WAR BULLSHIT! - 06Russia, China Alledgedly Crack Snowden Files - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:45] <exec> 08└─It should also be mentioned that the David Miranda claim was "quietly deleted" from the online version, with no note of the error on the article page (at least according to the Guardian, can't check because paywall).
[21:11:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fled to Putin - 06Russia, China Alledgedly Crack Snowden Files - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:11:47] <exec> 08└─who fled to seek protection from Vladimir Putin
[21:12:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Batman did it first - 06Researchers Design Sonar-Based Contactless Sleep Monitoring - 434 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:08] <exec> 08└─If I put the rest of the foil on my head, I can easily argue that the secret numbers the NSA calls from just don't make the phone visibly react... With enough foil to make a cocked hat, I'd point out that my old phone used to make my PC speakers buzz two seconds before it ran, but the newer ones don...
[21:12:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:Batman did it first - 06Researchers Design Sonar-Based Contactless Sleep Monitoring - 1017 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:09] <exec> 08└─The reason our enemies are still alive is, because we don't wage wars the way we used to. World War II showed us and the world just how horrible things can get, if a war is fought for ultimate victory. I don't know of a scenario where I could in good conscience say that we should use a Nuclear Bomb....
[21:12:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03forkazoo [2561] (Score:2) 02Re:How to keep out the bad people but not the good - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 519 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:31] <exec> 08└─You put the bad people in jail. If they haven't been convicted of anything, they aren't bad people. If they are in jail, you can control what they do. If you don't have certain proof that somebody committed a real crime, they are free to send private correspondence however, whenever, with whomever,...
[21:12:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Re:subjected - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 447 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:43] <exec> 08└─I just don't know if we have any basis anymore for believing this. I know it's against the human decency, the social contract, rule of law, and The Constitution, but that hasn't stopped them from doing such things in the past. The Security and Intelligence services are jacked on patriotism and drunk...
[21:13:29] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Dealing with the devil never seems to pay. - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 846 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:29] <exec> 08└─Microsoft is the devil in the digital world. Apple is only a major demon. Google a lesser demon. Thankfully, SCO is pretty much a dead demon. Dealing with Microsoft in any way, shape, or form is always detrimental to all parties except Microsoft. MS OS's have always been the most easily exploited OS...
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[21:14:28] <exec> 08└─Ships seem to have really strong prows compared to the side. Also, just looking at the pictures the damage wasn't all that bad. It's not like it would actually stop that ship from fighting off pirates. It just wouldn't look as cool doing it.
[21:14:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Re:OT question - 06Geeksphone Stops Support for FirefoxOS with No Warning - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:48] <exec> 08└─if you go to Menu->Settings->My Shortcuts, you can reconfigure the navigation and selection keys to do just about anything.
[21:15:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:old dupe - 0668 Katy – 68000 Linux on a Solderless Breadboard  - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:15:12] <exec> 08└─After the first 68k article i started dabbling on my own: http://imgur.com [imgur.com]
[21:15:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Scam - 06Krita's Kickstarter Was a Success; Prepare to be Second-Fastest, Photoshop - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:15:35] <exec> 08└─Are you one of those hipsters whose first impulse is to talk down their nose at everything despite knowing jack shit?
[21:16:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Those Evil Three Letter Agencies: - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:16:22] <exec> 08└─Have you seen what the rivers and air are like in heavily industrialized nations that don't have environment protection laws? If a company can only be profitable by pouring toxic byproducts into the river then we don't want them to succeed.
[21:18:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02Re:Long term? - 06California Orders its Largest Water Cuts in History - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:18:12] <exec> 08└─I wonder how much time on the bike that would take? But the real problem is not desalination its pumping it back into the valley to feed crops.
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[22:11:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Cracked? Harm? TOTAL PROPAGANDA WAR BULLSHIT! - 06Russia, China Alledgedly Crack Snowden Files - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:49] <exec> 08└─The News Of The World staff had to find jobs somewhere, you know...
[22:11:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:Cracked? Harm? TOTAL PROPAGANDA WAR BULLSHIT! - 06Russia, China Alledgedly Crack Snowden Files - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:50] <exec> 08└─Of course, Times USED to be a paper - now just Murdoch's upscale, lifestyle brand. I remember when it was folded correctly, in the hands of City men, with real tailoring and haberdashers. That world didn't survive Thatcher, any more than did Industry in Coventry or Cortonwood coal mining.
[22:11:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Cracked? Harm? TOTAL PROPAGANDA WAR BULLSHIT! - 06Russia, China Alledgedly Crack Snowden Files - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:52] <exec> 08└─I'm glad Hugh included a Wikipedia link, because it's a very generic name for a paper.
[22:11:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Fled to Putin - 06Russia, China Alledgedly Crack Snowden Files - 440 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:54] <exec> 08└─> I do not remember the story that way. Well, there's your problem right there. Gotta get that memory problem fixed, have another fix of Kardashian-infused deflategate. Next thing you're gonna claim to remember that Saddam and his pal Osama misplaced their WMDs, that we armed and trained both of the...
[22:11:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fled to Putin - 06Russia, China Alledgedly Crack Snowden Files - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:56] <exec> 08└─Sorry. Fled to the protection of the Chinese government. Yes, that sounds much better. We should give Snowden a pass because them Chinese are just regular Joes.
[22:11:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fled to Putin - 06Russia, China Alledgedly Crack Snowden Files - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:58] <exec> 08└─Hong Kong is a Special Administrative Region of the People's Republic of China. That's why people can hold pro-democracy protests there without being shot up.
[22:11:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Disagree) 02SN just sad now - 06Russia, China Alledgedly Crack Snowden Files - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:11:59] <exec> 08└─Microsoft blackmailing UK Members of Parliament story is retracted and modified for "not having checked the sources sufficiently." Something tells me this giant piece of government propaganda will get no such treatment. Why would you even repeat this garbage? You didn't even link to any rebuttals of...
[22:12:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:SN just sad now - 06Russia, China Alledgedly Crack Snowden Files - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:12:01] <exec> 08└─The material in this rebuttal submission [soylentnews.org] (submitted minutes before this story ran) didn't exist when Hugh posted his submission, except for The Intercept article.
[22:12:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:SN just sad now - 06Russia, China Alledgedly Crack Snowden Files - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:12:02] <exec> 08└─I don't recall the Sunday Times running that story . . .
[22:12:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Absolutely.Geek [5328] (Score:1) 02Re:die hard - 06FBI-Seized MegaUpload Domain Still in Limbo after DNS Hijacking - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:12:11] <exec> 08└─Best Christmas movie ever.
[22:12:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Better solution - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:12:52] <exec> 08└─But are the records meaningful? Unless they reveal your identity, I imagine it would be hard to track you down if you take precautions.
[22:13:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02OR, . . . - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:01] <exec> 08└─Maybe they are tired of getting the same canned questions from the same guy month after month. I'd quit answering them as well if that was the case.
[22:14:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"Iceland is strategic in any cross-Atlantic..." - 0690 Year Old Sailing Ship Puts Half of Iceland's Coast Guard Out of Action - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:32] <exec> 08└─there's not a lot of safe places for large aircraft to land Greenland is bigger and closer to the center of the pond--but is less developed. This reminds me of a PBS presentation I saw in 1996. NOVA - B-29: Frozen in Time [pbs.org] a perilous mission to repair and re-fly a B-29 bomber stranded on t...
[22:14:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:The bootloader is likely the key - 06Geeksphone Stops Support for FirefoxOS with No Warning - 1611 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:56] <exec> 08└─It is worse, it isn't only Windows. I just got force fed Pocket by Fedora's Firefox package through an update. Fedora was warned about the trademark being a future problem and now it is here, they can't remove the commercial tie in and keep the name so that 'minor' compromise of their principles has...
[22:15:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:OT question - 06Geeksphone Stops Support for FirefoxOS with No Warning - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:15:07] <exec> 08└─On all modern cell phones the mini-kernel that handles the baseband radio IO is insecure and has full read/write access to the entirety of the phone's memory.
[22:15:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Re:the truth hurts - 0668 Katy – 68000 Linux on a Solderless Breadboard  - 4045 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:15:32] <exec> 08└─Guilty. So many times. The trick I use to hop that hurdle is to implement a VM of the hardware on my existing dev machine. This extra step is worth it in the long run, IMO, because it speeds the development process. You can quickly create a cross compiler or at least a cross-assembler/disassembler o...
[22:16:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02Re:Those Evil Three Letter Agencies: - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:16:42] <exec> 08└─I live in the US and I often can't tell.
[22:16:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02Re:Those Evil Three Letter Agencies: - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:16:44] <exec> 08└─I visited Gary, Indiana in the early 70s. The air was orange. I lived outside Gary in the early 1980s for a year. You could still smell the coke ovens, but it certainly was a vast improvement.
[22:16:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02Re:One minor upside: - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:16:49] <exec> 08└─OPM has denied that was what happened, but a there are reports that a security vendor (CyTech) found the hack initially while they were demonstrating their product on OPM's network. That doesn't necessarily mean it had access to a secure network. It just means that machines on that network were infe...
[22:18:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Applicability? - 06Apple's Swift Language Might Actually be Good - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:18:00] <exec> 08└─Does Swift have any applications outside of Apple's walled garden? Because if it doesn't, this is non-news (for me and many others); even if Swift reads your mind and instantly produces the exact code you need without any bugs, I wouldn't touch it with a long stick.
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[23:11:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02upgrade your init system while yer at it - 06Linux Kernel 2.6 Nears End of Life; Upgrade Advised - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:11:42] <exec> 08└─..and be sure to update that old subscription to the Red Hat network. Just look at the ceiling and wait for Red Hat to finish; its all you can do.
[23:12:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:SN just sad now - 06Russia, China Alledgedly Crack Snowden Files - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:12:04] <exec> 08└─Putting "Alledgedly" proudly in the heading is sadder.
[23:13:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Re:Encryption App - USA Server - !!!??? - 06Encrypted Messaging Service Stops Answering 'Warrant Canary' Questions - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:07] <exec> 08└─Unless they were setting up a test case...
[23:13:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Verify - 06How Microsoft Squashed FOSS in Voting Systems in the USA - 911 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:58] <exec> 08└─Good enough: single-topic paper ballots in transparent urns (multi-topic ballots allowed if selections are unambiguous). Counted in public by as many volunteers as you can find, in front of as many observers and cameras as people want. Results published in newspapers so that everyone can check that...
[23:16:18] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Troll warning** - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 45 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:16:18] <exec> 08└─American intelligence employees living abroad
[23:16:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] 02I want "hackers" to get every SSN - 06Hacking of Federal Security Forms Much Worse than Originally Thought - 365 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:16:57] <exec> 08└─I want every single SSN to be available to these "hackers" (can people who exploit weak security really be called that?) - compomsise every SSN and make the system built around them simply fail completely. Then the SSN can no longer be used as a universal ID number for Americans. We'll have to come...
[23:19:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Re:An even bigger question: - 06Tolkien's First Fantasy Tale to be Published After 100 Years - 1188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:19:25] <exec> 08└─Look, no work deserves any copyright since we have never proven that this fulfills the stated goal of granting monopolies over duplication to promote science and the arts. We could do the experiment and end copyright and patent monopolies then test whether science and the arts actually benefit from...
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