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[12:12:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Biebermetrics - 06Our Obsession With Metrics is Corrupting Science - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:12:09] <exec> 08└─Judging the value of scientific research by citation counts is like judging the quality of music by record sales.
[12:12:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Bieber?! - 06Our Obsession With Metrics is Corrupting Science - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:12:10] <exec> 08└─Bieber hasn't even appeared on the Billboard Hot 100 chart for the past year. Get with it, grandpa.
[12:12:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Biebermetrics - 06Our Obsession With Metrics is Corrupting Science - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:12:12] <exec> 08└─I know, and who does that?!
[12:12:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02How to Be a Top Coder - 06Our Obsession With Metrics is Corrupting Science - 547 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:12:14] <exec> 08└─Fork repos on GitHub. Fork lots and lots of repos! Forks make you look involved even when you have nothing to contribute. Read the Issues section of each repo you forked, find out what what issues other people have, and report the same issues. Issues count as contributions! You can look like you're...
[12:12:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:How to Be a Top Coder - 06Our Obsession With Metrics is Corrupting Science - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:12:15] <exec> 08└─Tom, is that you?
[12:12:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Silly eggheads, laymen use the Ultimate Metric. - 06Our Obsession With Metrics is Corrupting Science - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:12:18] <exec> 08└─Net Worth determines your social status. If you don't have Money, you're literally worthless.
[12:12:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02con-tent? - 06Our Obsession With Metrics is Corrupting Science - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:12:21] <exec> 08└─Like, word count? Number of pages? Number of complete sentences? Pretty sure grammer. Mistakes can be CoUNted somehow!!
[12:12:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Every ting is A-OK - 06Our Obsession With Metrics is Corrupting Science - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:12:22] <exec> 08└─OK The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
[12:12:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Can it jack off for me? - 06Exii Hackberry, an Open Sourced 3D Printed Bionic Hand - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:12:37] <exec> 08└─My hands are tired from coding all day.
[12:12:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Can it jack off for me? - 06Exii Hackberry, an Open Sourced 3D Printed Bionic Hand - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:12:38] <exec> 08└─Damn it. Somebody already beat me to it!
[12:12:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Can it jack off for me? - 06Exii Hackberry, an Open Sourced 3D Printed Bionic Hand - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:12:40] <exec> 08└─Too late I already beat off.
[12:12:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Exit Hackberry ? - 06Exii Hackberry, an Open Sourced 3D Printed Bionic Hand - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:12:41] <exec> 08└─Anyone else read that as "Exit" ? Not a wise chioce of name. Anyway, according to their website, it is "Exiii", with three "i"s. grow branches that reach out to users
[12:12:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Congress: Corrupt or stupid? - 06Cybersecurity and the Tylenol Murders - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:12:49] <exec> 08└─There isn't a single independent expert who thinks that these measures will increase security. Many have spoken out against them. Although such measures may have popular support, our politicians have shown themselves very willing to ignore popular support on issues, so the only remaining rational co...
[12:12:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Congress: Corrupt or stupid? - 06Cybersecurity and the Tylenol Murders - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:12:51] <exec> 08└─It's not "or", it's "and".
[12:12:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Congress: Corrupt or stupid? - 06Cybersecurity and the Tylenol Murders - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:12:52] <exec> 08└─Although such measures may have popular support, our politicians have shown themselves very willing to ignore popular support on issues, so the only remaining rational conclusion is that they are either corrupt or stupid.
[12:12:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Congress: Corrupt or stupid? - 06Cybersecurity and the Tylenol Murders - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:12:54] <exec> 08└─But who can claim "Independence" when everything they do is secret? Its all secret because: Terrorists. You can't prove them wrong, because you can't know the secrets. Because if you knew the secrets, then: Terrorists. The only safe thing is to assume its all security theater bullshit, be vigilant (...
[12:12:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Actually they caught one of the two perpetrators - 06Cybersecurity and the Tylenol Murders - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:12:55] <exec> 08└─there were two rounds of poisonings. After the second round an astute investor speculated that the second murderer might have committed the crime so he could earn some coin by selling short on johnson & johnson stock. It turned out that right around the time that the second poisoning occured, very f...
[12:12:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Actually they caught one of the two perpetrator - 06Cybersecurity and the Tylenol Murders - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:12:57] <exec> 08└─And.... AND?? Who? The same short sellers active the week before 911?
[12:12:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02We should require software engineering licenses - 06Cybersecurity and the Tylenol Murders - 1174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:12:58] <exec> 08└─Canada does. A computer science degree doesn't suffice; one requires a software engineering degree. That's quite a different thing. I was once employed by HMI/SCADA vendor Trihedral Engineering. Despite that my job title was "Computer Programmer" I repeatedly referred to my team as "the engineers"....
[12:12:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02We should require computer operators licenses - 06Cybersecurity and the Tylenol Murders - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:00] <exec> 08└─Anyone who has at any time been diagnosed with a mental illness of any kind shall have their computer operators revoked permanently. Bye bye now Michael. You are gone forever. See the trouble with advocating raising the bar for entry is someone will eventually raise it higher than you can reach.
[12:13:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02there are numerous counterexamples - 06Cybersecurity and the Tylenol Murders - 429 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:02] <exec> 08└─I have a close friend who has a professional civil engineering license. While he has to work hard to stay current on his license, the requirements are quite reasonable considering the loss of life that would result were he to screw up. But the bar is not raised so high he cannot reach it. It's quite...
[12:13:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2, Troll) 02Re:there are numerous counterexamples - 06Cybersecurity and the Tylenol Murders - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:03] <exec> 08└─I've met numerous mentally ill mental health professionals.
[12:13:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I'm on some kind of med - 06Cybersecurity and the Tylenol Murders - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:05] <exec> 08└─Oh no I mixed too much homemade laxative. Don't make me spam the shit onto your fucking precious thread.
[12:13:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:there are numerous counterexamples - 06Cybersecurity and the Tylenol Murders - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:06] <exec> 08└─I've met numerous mentally ill mental health professionals.
[12:13:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:there are numerous counterexamples - 06Cybersecurity and the Tylenol Murders - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:08] <exec> 08└─I've met numerous mentally ill mental health professionals.
[12:13:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:We should require software engineering licenses - 06Cybersecurity and the Tylenol Murders - 1162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:10] <exec> 08└─Dan would later learn that there was a time when anyone could have debugging tools. There were even free debugging tools available on CD or downloadable over the net. But ordinary users started using them to bypass copyright monitors, and eventually a judge ruled that this had become their principal...
[12:13:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I am Anonymous Godwin! - 06Cybersecurity and the Tylenol Murders - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:11] <exec> 08└─I'm gonna invade my own Pole-Land with Blackjack and Hookers!
[12:13:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I didn't say computer programming needs licensing - 06Cybersecurity and the Tylenol Murders - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:13] <exec> 08└─I assert that software engineering should require licensing. While closely related computer programming and software engineering are distinctly different practices.
[12:13:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:I didn't say computer programming needs licensi - 06Cybersecurity and the Tylenol Murders - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:14] <exec> 08└─I assert that software engineering should require licensing.
[12:13:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02'behind a special firewall' - 06Cybersecurity and the Tylenol Murders - 655 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:16] <exec> 08└─I actually worked in a shop like that once. It was originally set up to keep the internet out but then the company owner realized it would keep his employees from stealing the source. We each had two windows boxen. One was connected to the internet, the other was inside a locked rackmount, with ethe...
[12:13:17] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03bradley13 [3053] 02We gotta *do* sumthin - 06Cybersecurity and the Tylenol Murders - 1181 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:17] <exec> 08└─I remember the Tylenol event. As far as Congress went, it was all too typical: - Something happens that is *already* illegal (ya know, killing people) - The one party who can actually do something about it, does so - the manufacturer ramping up their product security. - Role for Congress here? None....
[12:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02A great commercial. - 06Cybersecurity and the Tylenol Murders - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:19] <exec> 08└─I've got a headache this big and its got cyanide written all over it!
[12:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:A great commercial. - 06Cybersecurity and the Tylenol Murders - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:20] <exec> 08└─And now a word from our sponsors: Got headache? Take cyaenol. Cures headaches.. permanently! :D
[12:13:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Downside for companies - 06Cybersecurity and the Tylenol Murders - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:22] <exec> 08└─greater downside for companies that fail to do so
[12:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:0, Redundant) 02frist post - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:24] <exec> 08└─⚅⚅⚅ ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[12:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:0, Offtopic) 02Re:frist post - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:25] <exec> 08└─You drew the dadhole licking rabbit from Tumblr!
[12:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:frist post - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:27] <exec> 08└─Recent photo of a Slashdot editor [nocookie.net]
[12:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03dltaylor [4693] (Score:2) 02it was up, then taken down - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:28] <exec> 08└─The story did appear, briefly, including a mention of the corporate relationship. It has been taken down since, but can be searched (GIMP) and is located here: http://tech.slashdot.org [slashdot.org]
[12:13:29] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Not again - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 254 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:30] <exec> 08└─I think the story needs rephrased, otherwise it could be actionable. It's already happened once. Come on, editors! Think before you accuse. Use the word "appears" and point out that "some users claim..." Don't disappear into a lawyer infested hole on us!
[12:13:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03n1 [993] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Not again - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 576 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:31] <exec> 08└─I do see and to a point agree with your point. However, Dice is well within their rights to suppress or bury stories, it's not illegal, or even unethical from a business perspective. There are far more controversial [theguardian.com] and mainstream examples [bbc.co.uk] of similar activity: The Daily...
[12:13:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Eristone [4775] (Score:2, Informative) 02They did post it - albeit very late - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:33] <exec> 08└─According to TFA Soulskill posted [slashdot.org], they were just (extremely) slow vs. actively suppressing the whole topic. And there is additional editorial follow-up on the SourceForge blog. (helping)
[12:13:34] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03NoMaster [3543] 02Re:They did post it - albeit very late - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 800 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:35] <exec> 08└─And that didn't help matters. First, the story was that soulskill had just come back from a "busy weekend". And people asked 'what about the other editors who were vetting & passing through other stories over the weekend? And, hang on, the first submission was made on Wednesday night...' Then it cha...
[12:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrcoolbp [68] (Score:2) 02Re:They did post it - albeit very late - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:36] <exec> 08└─No worries, it garnered us another mention over there that got modded +5 insightful, though originally with the wrong TLD = )
[12:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:They did post it - albeit very late - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 549 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:38] <exec> 08└─> And people asked "when has that ever stopped /. editors before?" > If people didn't think there was something fishy to begin with, they sure did by the end... FWIW, I totally believe them. I don't think there was anything fishy going on. Is just that when it comes to Dice-related stories those do...
[12:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Re:They did post it - albeit very late - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:39] <exec> 08└─It's not purely a corporate thing. As a matter of human relationships, you owe the people you work with the benefit of the doubt on these kinds of things even if people outside your organization don't owe you that. That said, if the story we're hearing does not involve any misunderstandings of what...
[12:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:They did post it - albeit very late - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 637 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:41] <exec> 08└─Are you sure our editors would hurry to publish a story showing soylentnews (or the people behind) in a bad light somehow? If I was an editor, I think I'd try to find a positive angle first, too. Maybe our editors are better than that, however, I think it's not necessarily about conglomerates, corpo...
[12:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:They did post it - albeit very late - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:42] <exec> 08└─Are you sure our editors would hurry to publish a story showing soylentnews (or the people behind) in a bad light somehow?
[12:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:They did post it - albeit very late - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:44] <exec> 08└─Probably that's what makes you a better suited editor than me :-)
[12:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03TLA [5128] (Score:2) 02Re:They did post it - albeit very late - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:46] <exec> 08└─like you did with the Microsoft thing - kudos for that, by the way. Honesty is becoming a rare thing these days, more so in the field of journalism. Regardless of what I've seen others write over that one, the fact that you did come out and offer an apology AND explain why you felt you needed to apo...
[12:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03NickFortune [3267] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:They did post it - albeit very late - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:47] <exec> 08└─Are you sure our editors would hurry to publish a story showing soylentnews (or the people behind) in a bad light somehow?
[12:13:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:They did post it - albeit very late - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 722 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:49] <exec> 08└─Virtually none of those excuses are believable. Posting it here, as well as everywhere else, probably was a ploy to force their hand. Yet nobody has presented any substance to the "burying" allegation other than a typically hyperventilating reddit thread (as if reddit had a sparkling reputation as a...
[12:13:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:They did post it - albeit very late - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:50] <exec> 08└─Virtually none of those excuses are believable.
[12:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrcoolbp [68] (Score:2) 02Re:They did post it - albeit very late - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:52] <exec> 08└─Thanks, I updated TFA.
[12:13:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Snitches Get Pink Slippage - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:53] <exec> 08└─Don't expect honest reporting on same-company issues. That's like turning to NBC for investigative reporting about Brian Williams. Don't look for American media to be honest about American news, and don't look for Russian media to be honest about Russian news. Move along people, move along.
[12:13:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03dltaylor [4693] (Score:2) 02News vs Truth - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:55] <exec> 08└─Izvestia (News) and Pravda (Truth): There is no truth in "News" and there is no news in "Truth".
[12:13:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:News vs Truth - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:57] <exec> 08└─Just not the same when it's not in Russian, or read by Bruce Jenner.
[12:13:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Where Can I Find Unbiased News? - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:58] <exec> 08└─Not tech news - just regular news, like world events. From time to time I think I've found an unbiased source but then it becomes plainly apparent that the publisher has an axe to grind.
[12:13:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Where Can I Find Unbiased News? - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:00] <exec> 08└─There isn't one. The best strategy I've found for news that matters to me would be to look at reporting from several sources, and try to filter out the bias that way.
[12:14:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03archshade [3664] (Score:1) 02Re:Where Can I Find Unbiased News? - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 554 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:01] <exec> 08└─Also if you find a news source you like that isn't insanely biassed you can usually see the pattern of bias and mentally adjust for it. Most media outlets have a running bias across all writers so its not that hard. Once you become aware of the expected bias at the organization level you can look at...
[12:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The suppressed discussion did at least some good - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:03] <exec> 08└─Thanks to the pointers in the comments I am now reading both soylentnews.org and soylentnews.com (ha!)
[12:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:The suppressed discussion did at least some goo - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:04] <exec> 08└─Welcome aboard fellow slashdot refugee!
[12:14:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02My Take - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 778 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:06] <exec> 08└─Kids These Days: Why DICE Holdings Won't Listen [warplife.com] This kind of thing is why I do not seek investment; I've worked at some venture-backed companies. I'd rather work in a sausage factory. Now there are some VCs who are very good, such as Ann Winblad and Heidi Roizen. But in my own experie...
[12:14:07] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03NCommander [2] 02What I Find Fasciating ... - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 1594 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:07] <exec> 08└─It's a pretty rare thing when you actually see an editor on the other site post in a story. The last time I actually remember seeing it was way back with the beta fiasco. /. editors basically try to be as non-existent as possible, and now I see them trying to defend what's going on. That being said,...
[12:14:08] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Adamsjas [4507] 02Re:What I Find Fasciating ... - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 149 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:09] <exec> 08└─* Of all the times for SN to repopup in /. discussions in a +5 comment, why did it have to be after the site is still wobbly after a rough upgrade :(
[12:14:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I guess - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:11] <exec> 08└─I guess they weren't allowed to post about it until some internal damage control took place.
[12:14:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Update, read all about it! - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 448 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:12] <exec> 08└─Update: 06/02 03:27 GMT: The green slimy thing succumbed to the fact that the story would not go away. In fact it went Streisand effect splatter all over the place. So they decided to do some damage control this morning to defuse the situation that their reputation were the only thing taking a hit f...
[12:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03TLA [5128] (Score:2) 02community pressure - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 449 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:14] <exec> 08└─Slashdot caved because of the immense pressure from its users (and a lot of them threatening to migrate elsewhere), plus the fact that other subject threads are being flooded with references to Dice's scummy behaviour, enough to background the thread and give the exposure enough of a blatant banner...
[12:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Everyone should be using and contributing to this - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:23] <exec> 08└─Enough of the Matlab monopoly. Enough, I say! GNU Octave is pretty cool, and does quite a bit. No reason it can't be used as at least a partial replacement (especially for undergrad coursework in University).
[12:14:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Julia is a more modern answer. - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:25] <exec> 08└─Whilst Octave is nearly code compatible with Matlab, Julia is a fresh look at a faster, better numerical computing language. Seriously, look at Julia.
[12:14:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonTechie [2275] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Julia is a more modern answer. - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:27] <exec> 08└─Julia is a high-level, high-performance dynamic programming language for technical computing, with syntax that is familiar to users of other technical computing environments. It provides a sophisticated compiler, distributed parallel execution, numerical accuracy, and an extensive mathematical funct...
[12:14:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Re:Julia is a more modern answer. - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:28] <exec> 08└─Because it's "for the cloud"!! Oooooooh.
[12:14:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Julia is a more modern answer. - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 798 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:30] <exec> 08└─I know you Julia guys have a huge R chip on your shoulder (pretty much every web page has something to the effect: "See, we really are better than R!"), but geez, why not grow up and grow a pair instead of modding me down? I know. How about you just STFU until you've stopped fucking around with basi...
[12:14:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score:2) 02Re:Julia is a more modern answer. - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:31] <exec> 08└─If you like Julia but want more maturity/stability, check out the Scientific Python Stack (SciPy, NumPy, Pandas, Simpy, Matplotlib, and Nose) plus scikit-* for more specialized tasks like machine learning or image analysis.
[12:14:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Julia is a more modern answer. - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:33] <exec> 08└─And if you don't like Python tabulation nazism? ;-)
[12:14:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Julia is a more modern answer. - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 776 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:34] <exec> 08└─For a language that deliberately decided to do away with braces or other markings of scope, using tabulation is just... prudent in Python. PEP8 isn't always a perfect standard, but simply having a standard makes the majority of code more readable/accessible/maintainable to the rest of the community....
[12:14:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02MatLab is a tool of the Devil - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 906 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:36] <exec> 08└─I've never actually use it as I prefer to write numerical code in C++. Sometimes I write it in FORTRAN but I do so when working with someone else's FORTRAN code such as CERNLIB. What leads me to regard MatLab as so bad is its programming language. While I haven't written any I have attempted yet str...
[12:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Julia is a more modern answer. - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:37] <exec> 08└─I really want to like Julia but the problem with it is, it always ends up looking like C++.
[12:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score:1) 02GUI - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:39] <exec> 08└─qtoctave has been a decent GUI for a long time.
[12:14:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonTechie [2275] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:GUI - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:41] <exec> 08└─QtOctave is dead, almost a year ago ... http://ubuntuforums.org [ubuntuforums.org] https://www.openhub.net [openhub.net]
[12:14:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:-1, Troll) 02WUT - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:42] <exec> 08└─" ...for all you people too lazy to switch to GNU/Linux, "
[12:14:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02spreadsheety not GUI - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 534 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:44] <exec> 08└─I've always used it spreadsheet-y style, here's a hideously complicated script that outputs a number at the end, now mess with the script until that number at the end "works" using git and what ever else to store my script. I'm not sure how that would fit in, if at all, with GUI style use. emacs is...
[12:14:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Why is every open source project a clone? - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:45] <exec> 08└─GNU is Not Unix, Octave is Not Matlab, Linux is Not GNU, SoylentNews is Not Slashdot
[12:14:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Why is every open source project a clone? - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:47] <exec> 08└─If it's based on another open source project, that's just forking. Open source has become bigger in recent years, so it's no surprise that existing closed source software set the standard that professionals look to.
[12:14:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Why is every open source project a clone? - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:48] <exec> 08└─Closed source software is where innovation happens because smart people want to get paid for their original work leaving all the stupid people to do open source junk for free.
[12:14:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why is every open source project a clone? - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 781 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:50] <exec> 08└─That's funny. You've clearly not written much closed source software. Most of your "innovation" is stupid UI bullshit, and the rest is illegally poaching open source software and hiding it behind a binary. And if it isn't poached, it is just reusing BSD-licensed code. You get innovation because you...
[12:14:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Why is every open source project a clone? - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:52] <exec> 08└─Slashdot was once Open Source (guess what code this site's code is based on?). Please tell me what it was a clone of in your opinion.
[12:14:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02If Octave is really a GNU project, it's Free SW - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:53] <exec> 08└─not open source. It's not about the choice of license but why the license was chosen. Go find the thread where linus gets into it with someone who referred to linux as free software. However some "GNU" projects aren't really backed by the Free Software Foundation; in those cases they might be open s...
[12:14:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:If Octave is really a GNU project, it's Free SW - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:55] <exec> 08└─Given that its homepage is on www.gnu.org, it should indeed be part of the GNU project.
[12:14:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02At one time, false "GNU" projects were common - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 402 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:56] <exec> 08└─Consider Richard's gripe that Gnutella is not only not free software, but completely proprietary in that the source is not available. Sourceforge was effective at discouraging that by not permitting projects to use "gnu" in their name unless they were really part of the GNU Project. There is also th...
[12:14:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:At one time, false "GNU" projects were common - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:58] <exec> 08└─https://savannah.gnu.org [gnu.org]
[12:14:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Best of luck - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 846 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:59] <exec> 08└─...they need it. Not to undermine Octave's accomplishments, but more to highlight how much money is available to MATLAB. I've used both, with my projects on a number of occasions starting on Octave and moving to Matlab when the IT department grants me a license. The speed difference is huge (MATLAB...
[12:15:00] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] 02Re:Best of luck - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 1274 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:01] <exec> 08└─Octave is basically trying to be like Wine - it's imitating MATLab including all of its faults, because that's what people are familiar with. That doesn't make it the best, or even a good tool for the job. It's a good bridge to bring people from closed into open source tools. If you want speed and p...
[12:15:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03engblom [556] (Score:2) 02Re:Best of luck - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:02] <exec> 08└─A huge part of the GNU programs are badly made. Performance issues does not surprise me at all. FSF and GNU is not in first hand about getting excellent programs, it is about getting free programs, with quite a bit of features. Sometimes this means bad performance, sometimes it means really buggy pr...
[12:15:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:4, Insightful) 02But does it make a difference? - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 636 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:15:11] <exec> 08└─Yeah, you see, we never turned off collection because... err... we need to keep you safe... Also, we knew that in a couple of days, they'd pass a law anyway that re-enables us to do all of this crap and that this law will be retro-active so ... yeah... There was never a reason to turn it off. How do...
[12:15:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:4, Touché) 02Re:But does it make a difference? - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:12] <exec> 08└─... also, isn't "three spy tools whose legal authorization expired" a bit off base? As far I (and many others) can tell it directly contravenes the Constitution.
[12:15:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:But does it make a difference? - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 749 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:14] <exec> 08└─Further the press continues to phrase this as: "the Senate failed to pass legislation", like it was a mistake or an over-site. It was nothing of the kind. It was a concerted effort to let it die, an intentional act, and the very purpose the bill contained a sunset clause. The authors of the original...
[12:15:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:3, Touché) 02A complete list of terrorist plots stopped by NSA - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:15] <exec> 08└─A complete list of terrorist plots stopped by NSA bulk data collection: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. "Lisa, I want to buy your rock." [blogsport.eu]
[12:15:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03el_oscuro [1711] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:A complete list of terrorist plots stopped by N - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:17] <exec> 08└─ORA-01403: No data found.
[12:15:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:But does it make a difference? - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:18] <exec> 08└─Which is more likely: A) A sudden bipartisan outbreak of common sense where our politicians finally agreed the Patriot Act was a bad idea or B) The two parties have been fighting over how to renew it so as to give the most advantage to their own party ?
[12:15:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:But does it make a difference? - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 591 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:20] <exec> 08└─And don't discount the possibility of some very public arrest being made to ward off an imminent terrorist attack, or allowing one one to happen that they already were warned about, just to make a point. Look back over the years, and each time there was talk about repeal, there is another useful idi...
[12:15:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dale [539] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:But does it make a difference? - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 482 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:22] <exec> 08└─Exactly. I don't actually have any faith that they even let off the gas in their race to suck every scrap of information up. In some ways it is actually worse now. Since they can now point and say "we stopped when the law expired" even if they didn't. Now you have to have another leak to "prove" the...
[12:15:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:But does it make a difference? - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:23] <exec> 08└─Now you have to have another leak to "prove" they are lying through their teeth (still)
[12:15:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:But does it make a difference? - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:25] <exec> 08└─Plus, they have sincerely pushed forward the impetus to create truly secure and decentralized platforms for the rest of us to communicate.
[12:15:25] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03bob_super [1357] 02And there was much rejoicing... - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 152 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:15:26] <exec> 08└─I just checked, the Terrorists have not blown me up yet. nope. Still not.. Maybe now? I guess not. I'll keep you posted as we near the end of the world.
[12:15:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2, Disagree) 02Re:And there was much rejoicing... - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:28] <exec> 08└─can we please have a higher limit on Score like Ars sort of does? Sometimes Funny doesn't cover it and a "Hilarious" tag would be nice ;-)
[12:15:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:And there was much rejoicing... - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:29] <exec> 08└─How about "SMP funny" which gives a karma bonus?
[12:15:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:And there was much rejoicing... - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:31] <exec> 08└─Symmetric Multi-Processing funny?
[12:15:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:And there was much rejoicing... - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:32] <exec> 08└─I was going for "Shit My Pants"
[12:15:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:And there was much rejoicing... - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:34] <exec> 08└─Silence! I Kill You! In all seriousness, I am about as scared of terrorist activities here in the states as anyone should be of Achmed.
[12:15:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:And there was much rejoicing... - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:36] <exec> 08└─Actually the terrorists have blown you up. I mean, they let the PATRIOT act expire? That cannot be the real world! Clearly the terrorists blew you up, and you're now in afterlife. :-)
[12:15:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Terrorists Hate Our Freedoms - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:15:37] <exec> 08└─If they hate us for our freedom, this is a step towards getting them to hate us even more. #Murica
[12:15:38] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] 02Spine - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 1610 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:15:39] <exec> 08└─Even if they could make a convincing case that these activities, which are unconstitutional, actually made us safe (they can't), it still wouldn't matter. I don't want to be safe if it comes at the cost of my privacy, and anyone who thinks it through comes to the same conclusion. It might be easier...
[12:15:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Spine - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:40] <exec> 08└─Dayum! Great post! I came here to say much the same thing, and to say that I'll be voting for Paul unless something crazy happens between now and time to vote. Great job. Mod +500 insightful.
[12:15:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score:2) 02Re:Spine - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:42] <exec> 08└─Dayum! Great post! I came here to say much the same thing, and to say that I'll be voting for Paul unless something crazy happens between now and time to vote. Great job. Mod 500 insightful.
[12:15:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Spine - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 702 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:43] <exec> 08└─Well considering that the NSA's claim that the bulk spying and data collection on Americans had prevented over 50 attacks has proven to be an outright lie [theguardian.com], and that even the spying that has been done by the FBI hasn't helped to crack any terrorism cases [washingtontimes.com] I woul...
[12:15:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Spine - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:45] <exec> 08└─It would also be easier for them to catch criminals if they could walk into any house at any time and have a look around. There are any number of things we could do to "make their job easier" but we don't do them because privacy is valuable.
[12:15:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Spine - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 428 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:46] <exec> 08└─If the terrorists get an opportunity they may harm some people and then get caught. If the government get and opportunity they may harm everybody and you can only comply or get harmed even more. Thus there needs to be a balance such that no unregulated entity may get an power edge over others. Some...
[12:15:47] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Dunbal [3515] 02Americans are celebrating - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 165 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:15:48] <exec> 08└─Because somehow the government that is completely ignoring many laws is going to stop ignoring the laws now that some other law has sunset. Talk about a logic error.
[12:15:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03TestablePredictions [3249] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:Americans are celebrating - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:50] <exec> 08└─Not everything can be a slam-dunk. The abolition of chattel slavery in America took a whole series of reforms leading up to it, and series of reconstruction afterwards. And several other examples of terrible things slowly righted over time. Baby steps.
[12:15:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Americans are celebrating - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:51] <exec> 08└─You seriously think a government that feels it is no longer bound by the laws it enforces on its people is going to gradually get better all by itself in time? History shows otherwise.
[12:15:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Americans are celebrating - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 495 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:53] <exec> 08└─I think that the courts will have something to say about that. I think congress would have something to say about that too. There is a lot of grease, true, but when one flagrantly defies the other, there is hell with two solutions: 1) The executive/secret service branch dissolves the rest of governm...
[12:15:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Americans are celebrating - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:54] <exec> 08└─Except the courts will never see any of it because whoops - national security.
[12:15:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:4, Informative) 02Unfortunatly only a temporary victory - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 766 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:15:56] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately this is only a temporary victory. Even though the PATRIOT Act wasn't renewed the USA FREEDOM Act is looking like it will pass. It got a 77-17 up vote on a procedural measure that allows a full vote which sounds like it will be happening on Tuesday, aka enjoying broad bi-partisan suppor...
[12:15:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"at exactly midnight" - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:15:57] <exec> 08└─WTF? Do other laws have timing slop written into them? "These provisions will expire around the 31st"? "plus-or-minus"? "During the next Harvest Moon"?
[12:15:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Let's test this out... - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:15:59] <exec> 08└─I am the love child of Osama bin Laden and I worship the ground he stood on. Death to America. Obama is the other Great Satan. *waiting* *waiting* *waiting* Well, no cruise missile has come through the window to blow me to atoms yet. I guess their not listening.
[12:16:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Let's test this out... - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:16:01] <exec> 08└─Their waiting for the grammar nazis to get you first.
[12:16:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Re:Let's test this out... - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:16:02] <exec> 08└─Uh... yeah. Mea culpa. Actually, this is a mistake I make quite often but I usually catch it before it goes live. I know the difference, but my fingers sometimes don't get the message! But I think one grammar Nazi has already found me out! Also sieg heil, mein fartenfueher!
[12:16:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03black6host [3827] (Score:2) 02Re:Additional, newer blogpost available - 06Lightsail Update: Back in Communication - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:16:20] <exec> 08└─I'm glad to hear they're making progress. It amazes me as to how we deal with problems such as this. It's like talking to my mother when she call for support. Reboot, mom. Still not working, wait 5 minutes and reboot... Still having problems? Wait until tomorrow to give the computer a rest and then...
[12:16:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Additional, newer blogpost available - 06Lightsail Update: Back in Communication - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:16:21] <exec> 08└─Stupid software guys always try to blame the hardware guys, but in the end it is almost always the software.
[12:16:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score:2) 02beacon.csv - 06Lightsail Update: Back in Communication - 419 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:16:22] <exec> 08└─FTFA: > Because the primary goal of the test mission is sail deployment, the > plan to apply the patch has been shelved. As a workaround, LightSail > will be rebooted at least once per day to reset the contents of > beacon.csv, the spreadsheet-like file that stores the spacecraft’s > automated dat...
[12:16:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:beacon.csv - 06Lightsail Update: Back in Communication - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:16:24] <exec> 08└─Makes you wonder why there isn't some kind of cron to perform automated and scheduled tasks. Like truncating a file..
[12:16:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03iWantToKeepAnon [686] (Score:2) 02Oblig IT Crowd - 06Lightsail Update: Back in Communication - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:16:25] <exec> 08└─https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p85xwZ_OLX0 [youtube.com]
[12:16:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:"Turn off X" only works as long as ... - 06HIV's Sweet Tooth is its Downfall - 500 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:16:39] <exec> 08└─I don't think you understand the process. (I know I don't.) As I read the article this merely halts replication, it doesn't kill the virus. And that means that while the disease is suppressed, it isn't gone. Viruses can generally "live" for quite a long time without metabolizing. I wouldn't even be...
[12:16:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Turn off X" only works as long as ... - 06HIV's Sweet Tooth is its Downfall - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:16:41] <exec> 08└─Or until the virus is wiped out. Remember smallpox? Me neither.
[12:16:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe [2583] (Score:2) 02Re:"Turn off X" only works as long as ... - 06HIV's Sweet Tooth is its Downfall - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:16:43] <exec> 08└─The virus hasn't mutated a gene to turn X back on again
[12:16:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Do eating habits have an effect on HIV dev.? - 06HIV's Sweet Tooth is its Downfall - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:16:46] <exec> 08└─Is it low carb diets or just low calorie that matters?
[12:16:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Do eating habits have an effect on HIV dev.? - 06HIV's Sweet Tooth is its Downfall - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:16:47] <exec> 08└─It's low carb only. I eat lots of cheese, linen-seed, olives, fatty fish and meat. Cancer cells seem to require sugar to grow and multiply. Sugar is acquired by direct intake and from starch. Fat is converted to ketone bodies, which can be used by muscles, brain and other organs. The Atkins diet wor...
[12:16:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Do eating habits have an effect on HIV dev.? - 06HIV's Sweet Tooth is its Downfall - 818 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:16:49] <exec> 08└─The biology generally support the assertion that "glucose is need for fast growing cells.". Deprived of carbohydrate the human metabolism is able to survive fine on ketones produced from fat, but this also suggested restricted energy production. There is clinical evidence that fasting (generally, bu...
[12:16:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Do eating habits have an effect on HIV dev.? - 06HIV's Sweet Tooth is its Downfall - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:16:50] <exec> 08└─Deprived of carbohydrate the human metabolism is able to survive fine on ketones produced from fat, but this also suggested restricted energy production.
[12:16:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:Do eating habits have an effect on HIV dev.? - 06HIV's Sweet Tooth is its Downfall - 652 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:16:52] <exec> 08└─when running your expenditure determines the body's use of resources, not the other way around. However, the accumulation of lactic acid and lack of glucose, will of course, cause the feeling of fatigue. The trick is not to run so fast, and aim for 60% aerobic potential. The body is then able to gen...
[12:16:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Do eating habits have an effect on HIV dev.? - 06HIV's Sweet Tooth is its Downfall - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:16:53] <exec> 08└─FWIW, I tried an Atkins-ish diet for about 6 months. Afterwards my triglycerides levels were a *lot* higher. This was not a desirable change, even though I did lose weight on it.
[12:16:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Do eating habits have an effect on HIV dev.? - 06HIV's Sweet Tooth is its Downfall - 524 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:16:55] <exec> 08└─May I ask how Atkins-ish your diet was? I'm trying to limit my meat-consumption and focus on healthy fat, like olives, fish, olive-oil, linen-seeds, cottage-cheese etc. I do eat meat, but try not to fall for the common misconception that Atkins is meat only. Beside that, I don't usually don't discus...
[12:16:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Do eating habits have an effect on HIV dev.? - 06HIV's Sweet Tooth is its Downfall - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:16:57] <exec> 08└─I'm not terribly worried about low carb diets. This is a receptor they're playing with (from the generalized description). I'm worried that one could turn off enough sugar to kill healthy cells.
[12:16:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe [2583] (Score:2) 02Re:Do eating habits have an effect on HIV dev.? - 06HIV's Sweet Tooth is its Downfall - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:16:58] <exec> 08└─cancer-cells have a high need for glucose
[12:17:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Not enough computers - 06The US Tried to 'Stuxnet' North Korea’s Nuclear Program - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:17:11] <exec> 08└─Actually, telling them not to fuck is a great way to generate lots of extra computers before you're done installing software and switching networks. Viruses tend to thrive as you don't talk about firewalls either.
[12:17:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Act of war? - 06The US Tried to 'Stuxnet' North Korea’s Nuclear Program - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:17:16] <exec> 08└─Or taking your analogy further: if you try to blow up some crowded place but it turns out that your 'friend' who groomed you and told you it was a good idea and handed you the explosives, was an FBI agent in an entrapment scheme, it isn't terrorism... amirite??? And you should go free, right? Right?...
[12:17:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Act of war? - 06The US Tried to 'Stuxnet' North Korea’s Nuclear Program - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:17:17] <exec> 08└─In this case, it's more like the missile exploding halfway in mid air, while showing clearly on the foreign nation's radars. Either way, an attempted act of aggression sounds like an act of war to me. Intent counts.
[12:17:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Some of the equipment from the same firms - 06The US Tried to 'Stuxnet' North Korea’s Nuclear Program - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:17:20] <exec> 08└─Gotta love the knife-making biz, so clean & ethical... Oh wait, someone using a tool for evil doesn't make the tool evil. Silly me.
[12:17:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Some of the equipment from the same firms - 06The US Tried to 'Stuxnet' North Korea’s Nuclear Program - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:17:22] <exec> 08└─Oh wait, someone using a tool for evil doesn't make the tool evil. Silly me.
[12:17:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Some of the equipment from the same firms - 06The US Tried to 'Stuxnet' North Korea’s Nuclear Program - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:17:23] <exec> 08└─I have been so happy since I discovered cooking and laundry with uranium-enrichment-grade centrifuges... What do you mean, those are single-purpose devices?
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[13:11:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Collateral Damage - 06Level 3 Blocking Traffic to Servers Believed Controlled by Criminal Gangs - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:11:38] <exec> 08└─My Minecraft server was unreachable for several days when Microsoft went after No-IP's DNS services. That was a targeted (if bungled) move against a botnet's command and control system - this is blanket traffic blocking, you can only go after so many targets like that until you "accidentally" take o...
[13:11:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Collateral Damage - 06Level 3 Blocking Traffic to Servers Believed Controlled by Criminal Gangs - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:39] <exec> 08└─They probably have much the same perspective that the RBL guys did about blacklisting entire ISPs: yeah, there's collateral damage, but it might provide an incentive for those ISPs to start policing their own users. And it pretty much did, although I don't know that we like the method they ultimatel...
[13:11:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Collateral Damage - 06Level 3 Blocking Traffic to Servers Believed Controlled by Criminal Gangs - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:41] <exec> 08└─Idea: botnet command and control via minecraft signs.
[13:11:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03TLA [5128] (Score:2) 02not even sure where this is going - 06Level 3 Blocking Traffic to Servers Believed Controlled by Criminal Gangs - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:11:42] <exec> 08└─is this the death of the world wide web, where information is collated in a non-linear fashion in such a way that you can find whatever you want at random and any time of the day or night, to be replaced with linear "programming" (they call it that for a reason - it's entirely shaped and controlled...
[13:11:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Offtopic: RSS bugs with rehash - 06Level 3 Blocking Traffic to Servers Believed Controlled by Criminal Gangs - 895 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:11:44] <exec> 08└─Just attempted to follow this from the RSS feed, and the links are all a mess. Figure someone needs to know. * Homepage is listed as "//soylentnews.org" in the rss itself (<channel rdf:about="//soylentnews.org/">) * Likewise, all the resource entries (used by readers to know what URL to load for the...
[13:11:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:2) 02Re:Biebermetrics - 06Our Obsession With Metrics is Corrupting Science - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:56] <exec> 08└─I know, and who does that?!
[13:12:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03lizardloop [4716] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Happens in any field - 06Our Obsession With Metrics is Corrupting Science - 352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:12:02] <exec> 08└─This happens any time you have a complex quality (e.g scientific worth) that you try to measure with a simple metric (e.g a single number). Instead of actually measuring the thing, you just end up measuring how well someone can game the simple metric. See people cramming for exams to get good grades...
[13:12:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Its a working solution... - 06Our Obsession With Metrics is Corrupting Science - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:12:04] <exec> 08└─Institutions are urged to acknowledge that the scientific content of a paper is more important than publication metrics
[13:12:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Facebook still controls your profile with PGP k - 06Facebook Adds Support for PGP Keys to Profiles - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:12:14] <exec> 08└─Wouldn't this be one of those times where the trust settings on the keys would be fairly useful?
[13:12:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:We should require software engineering licenses - 06Cybersecurity and the Tylenol Murders - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:12:57] <exec> 08└─Meaning what? People wouldn't be able to get a programming job without a degree? What actual impact would this have besides what someone is allowed to call themselves?
[13:13:28] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03NickFortune [3267] 02Re:They did post it - albeit very late - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 122 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:28] <exec> 08└─Are you sure our editors would hurry to publish a story showing soylentnews (or the people behind) in a bad light somehow?
[13:14:21] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02Un-nerving tactic - 06Windows 10 Arriving as Free Update July 29th - 1043 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:21] <exec> 08└─When I saw this story in the queue, I held off submitting another, preferring to add my content here. On the Windows machines and VMs I use for my Day Job, I noticed a new windows icon in the tray this morning asking If I wanted to Get Windows 10, Reserve a copy, or visit some FAQ web site. The abso...
[13:15:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:At one time, false "GNU" projects were common - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:15:21] <exec> 08└─But I strongly doubt that there was ever a false "GNU" project hosted on www.gnu.org.
[13:15:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Dunbal [3515] 02Waaa they're "poaching"! - 06Uber Poaches Robotics Scientists from Carnegie Mellon - 439 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:36] <exec> 08└─Yeah I always find it amusing when someone complains that their employees are being "poached". How about maybe pay your staff a little better, give them projects they believe in, support, them, etc, and then they won't LET themselves be poached. No but what the capitalist (read "parasite") would rat...
[13:15:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] 02They'll be back - 06Uber Poaches Robotics Scientists from Carnegie Mellon - 806 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:53] <exec> 08└─Wait until Uber folds, and they'll be back. Can't blame them for spending a few years making $ while they can. CMU ought to consider this a sabbatical or something. Uber can't possibly make self-driving cars before their business model implodes. Uber subtracts value from the marketplace by skimming...
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[14:11:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:1, Redundant) 02Re:Collateral Damage - 06Level 3 Blocking Traffic to Servers Believed Controlled by Criminal Gangs - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:09] <exec> 08└─unreachable for several days
[14:11:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:not even sure where this is going - 06Level 3 Blocking Traffic to Servers Believed Controlled by Criminal Gangs - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:11] <exec> 08└─In the DS9 episode "Past Tense", written in 1994, and set in 2024, one of the characters was a rich mogul, and ran "Channel 90" on "The Net". I always thought how dated that episode was. As we move backwards to linear programming, I now realise that it may well turn out to be accurate.
[14:11:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02This is not their place. - 06Level 3 Blocking Traffic to Servers Believed Controlled by Criminal Gangs - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:11:14] <exec> 08└─Too many companies are getting ideas above their station; and they will continue to do so as long as we tolerate it.
[14:11:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Every ting is A-OK - 06Our Obsession With Metrics is Corrupting Science - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:33] <exec> 08└─Just stop complaining and let them work on it.
[14:11:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:2) 02So... - 06Our Obsession With Metrics is Corrupting Science - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:11:35] <exec> 08└─If metrics are bad, why just don't use imperial? *ducks
[14:11:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So... - 06Our Obsession With Metrics is Corrupting Science - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:37] <exec> 08└─What is the conversion factor from imperial star ducks to the Hirsch index?
[14:12:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:They did post it - albeit very late - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:59] <exec> 08└─I agree with you. When the Slashdot editors start using mealy-mouthed corporatespeak you know that they've launched into sock puppet mode for the scumbag Dice MBA's who have their hand up their ass. Such a thing was completely unknown on Slashdot before Dice came to town.
[14:13:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:What I Find Fasciating ... - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 476 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:12] <exec> 08└─I checked Slashdot for the first time since Beta to see the interface you were talking about. It's not as gimmicky as Beta and the pre-Beta (aka non-classical UI) stuff were, but it's not solid like Soylent's. I was surprised how emotional visiting that site felt--anger, disgust, contempt, sadness o...
[14:14:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Waaa they're "poaching"! - 06Uber Poaches Robotics Scientists from Carnegie Mellon - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:47] <exec> 08└─Never meant to imply otherwise, but his terminology did make it into the standard nomenclature.
[14:17:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yes, but keep vaccinating - 06Is it Time to Eradicate Measles? - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:17:15] <exec> 08└─Don't worry, your immune system will till be exposed to a variety of viruses (and other antigens) even if we wipe out all the pathogenic viruses.
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[15:11:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Day old breaking news? - 06Intel Buying Altera for $16.7B - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:11:46] <exec> 08└─Come on people! Even the dreaded Dice newsvertisement site had this story YESTERDAY
[15:11:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Day old breaking news? - 06Intel Buying Altera for $16.7B - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:11:47] <exec> 08└─Well, they were probably paid specifically to have it.
[15:11:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:Day old breaking news? - 06Intel Buying Altera for $16.7B - 574 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:11:49] <exec> 08└─Well I edited the story and removed the 'Breaking News' from the heading. But, as a result of the new software update, we now have nexuses - and one nexus is called Breaking News. So the box got ticked so that the story went into that nexus and would have gone out immediately. But none of us knew/re...
[15:11:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03zeigerpuppy [1298] (Score:2) 02Lucky it wasn't - 06Intel Buying Altera for $16.7B - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:11:51] <exec> 08└─Breaking News Breaking News... The prefix that was became the break Dreaming, flailing, like pepper dusted wings The news broke over a bug filled dawn Chattering, screaming over vexatios ledges And ledgers and sledges, There was no end.
[15:12:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03paulej72 [58] (Score:2) 02Re:Offtopic: RSS bugs with rehash - 06Level 3 Blocking Traffic to Servers Believed Controlled by Criminal Gangs - 5 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:03] <exec> 08└─fixed
[15:12:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Unsolvable problem - 06Level 3 Blocking Traffic to Servers Believed Controlled by Criminal Gangs - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:12:05] <exec> 08└─They got their hands on an unsolvable problem, I think it's high risk for them. It's simply: who decides what is to be shut off? On what grounds? You can't tackle this without degenerating, sooner or later, into censorship.
[15:12:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:2) 02Re:So... - 06Our Obsession With Metrics is Corrupting Science - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:31] <exec> 08└─LMWTFY (let me wolfram this for you) convert imperial star ducks to hirsch index [wolframalpha.com] Result: star (no conversions to Imperial system available for this unit)
[15:12:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Obligatory - 06Our Obsession With Metrics is Corrupting Science - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:12:32] <exec> 08└─http://dilbert.com/strip/1995-11-13 [dilbert.com]
[15:12:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02*Whose* obsession? - 06Our Obsession With Metrics is Corrupting Science - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:12:33] <exec> 08└─Don't count me in. Making a research is so hard these days not because you can't find sources. It's because you find so many, you don't even know where to start. And maybe which ones you should skip, but how do you know you can skip it until you're went through it? I'd rather be obsessed with qualit...
[15:12:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dishevel [5338] (Score:1) 02Re:The Mainstream has discovered PGP! - 06Facebook Adds Support for PGP Keys to Profiles - 2 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:46] <exec> 08└─to
[15:12:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score:2) 02Re:Facebook still controls your profile with PGP k - 06Facebook Adds Support for PGP Keys to Profiles - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:50] <exec> 08└─Are we assuming it's not simple for the various Three Letter Agencies to redirect specific IP ranges to a doctored version of keyserver.mit.edu? If you have a path across the web of trust that connects your key to everyone you want to talk to, PGP works. If you don't, it don't.
[15:14:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02Re:They did post it - albeit very late - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 722 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:02] <exec> 08└─Virtually none of those excuses are believable. Posting it here, as well as everywhere else, probably was a ploy to force their hand. Yet nobody has presented any substance to the "burying" allegation other than a typically hyperventilating reddit thread (as if reddit had a sparkling reputation as a...
[15:14:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrcoolbp [68] (Score:2) 02Re:Where Can I Find Unbiased News? - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 752 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:12] <exec> 08└─Honestly it's pretty tough to do, humans are inherently biased, especially in this global culture we live in. We (the SN editors) do strive to be "neutral and factual", but it's not as simple as intending to do so. One of the things we have going for us is that we don't seek profits or motivation to...
[15:15:07] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] 02Re:Slackware? - 06Windows 10 Arriving as Free Update July 29th - 31 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:07] <exec> 08└─No, that's what FreeBSD is for.
[15:15:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Julia is a more modern answer. - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 619 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:40] <exec> 08└─Scipy/Numpy/etc is really useful. However, the Julia syntax is much slicker for numerical tasks, since that was the original purpose. I've been using Julia for quite a bit of my own work. Since it can be nearly as fast as C, development is sped up by not having to write things in Fortran/C. Critical...
[15:16:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Share and enjoy - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:16:00] <exec> 08└─Share and enjoy!
[15:18:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03TK [2760] 02Taking my sweet time - 06SN Funding Goal Jan-June Reached! - 168 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:18:46] <exec> 08└─I only relented and donated this past Friday because I saw how close we were to the goal. I wonder if I'm the only one, and if not, if that's an exploitable phenomenon.
[15:18:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03tibman [134] 02Re:Taking my sweet time - 06SN Funding Goal Jan-June Reached! - 67 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:18:47] <exec> 08└─Donation meters that are stuck at 99%? sounds like an awesome idea!
[15:19:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:time to iradicate morons - 06Is it Time to Eradicate Measles? - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:19:49] <exec> 08└─Presumably vaccination rates were https://en.wikipedia.org
[15:19:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:time to iradicate morons - 06Is it Time to Eradicate Measles? - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:19:50] <exec> 08└─"Less than" sign.... I was trying to say that the big drop in measles incidence occurred when vaccination rates were much lower. What is the expected relationship here?
[15:19:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormreaver [5101] (Score:1) 02Re:time to iradicate morons - 06Is it Time to Eradicate Measles? - 667 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:19:53] <exec> 08└─Like Slashdot, Soylent News needs a, "-1, I instinctively disagree but don't know why" moderation. I got moderated as a troll because the moderator's vaccine religion* doesn't agree with the raw data: The Measles vaccine was introduced in 1963, and Measles deaths were extremely rare by that time (th...
[15:20:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03janrinok [52] 02Bound to happen one day - 06Site Upgrade To Rehash 15.05 - Changelog and Incident Report - 155 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:20:55] <exec> 08└─Don't take it too hard NC. You and the rest of dev do a brilliant job and we were bound to have the occasional one not go according to plan. Get some rest.
[15:21:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03pTamok [3042] 02A good upgrade - 06Site Upgrade To Rehash 15.05 - Changelog and Incident Report - 536 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:21:26] <exec> 08└─Just as pilots say that any landing you can walk away from is a good landing, any upgrade that leaves the site workable is a good upgrade. Don't sweat the small stuff: so long as the basic functionality is working, go away, get some sleep, then come back later and play Whack-a-Mole™ with what's le...
[15:21:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03paulej72 [58] 02Re:Nexii? - 06Site Upgrade To Rehash 15.05 - Changelog and Incident Report - 359 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:21:46] <exec> 08└─A nexus is a way to organize stories by topics in a cleaner way than we currently do. A nexus has its own home page that will only display stories from that nexus on its page while at the same time showing on the main home page if you do not set the nexus to be blocked from showing. Basically it all...
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[16:12:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Putin - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:12:16] <exec> 08└─Looks like Mr Putin is feeling insecure about the size of his penis again.
[16:12:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Putin - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:17] <exec> 08└─To be fair, mister Obama shoved his in the Black Sea, where it shouldn't be.
[16:12:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Did this ever stop - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 1068 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:12:19] <exec> 08└─Did this kind of stuff ever stop? During the "cold war" right up to the very end it was normal for our guys and their guys when on patrol to face off with each other and kind of flip each other off, kinda virtually. It even shows up in pop culture like the chick flick "Top Gun" from the 80s. Busines...
[16:12:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03WizardFusion [498] (Score:2) 02OT: Re:Did this ever stop - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:21] <exec> 08└─...like the chick flick "Top Gun" from the 80s...
[16:12:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Interesting) 02This is news? - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 1081 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:12:22] <exec> 08└─Cold War veteran here. This stuff was so routine, no reporter would waste his time reporting something like this. An unarmed Russian plane overflew a US destroyer? Hell, the SAILORS wouldn't even talk about that! Back in the day, Russian planes flew over, fully armed, and our guns tracked them from...
[16:12:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02US destroyer making passes at Russia - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:12:24] <exec> 08└─Anyone looking at a map will see that Black Sea has Russian coast line, and is thousands of miles away from the US. The one who is "making close pass" is the US warship. "International waters" my ass. If a Russian warship tried to come to 31 miles outside the East Coast of the US (still in "Internat...
[16:12:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03n1 [993] (Score:2) 02Worth noting - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:12:25] <exec> 08└─I think when digesting this story it is worth keeping in mind the geographic location of the Black Sea. I'm sure the Russians will be the first to claim these were 'routine operations' along their Russian (and now including Crimean) borders. I wonder what would the reporting be like if a Russian mil...
[16:12:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Collateral Damage - 06Level 3 Blocking Traffic to Servers Believed Controlled by Criminal Gangs - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:53] <exec> 08└─Idea: botnet command and control via minecraft signs.
[16:12:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03penguinoid [5331] (Score:1) 02Re:Collateral Damage - 06Level 3 Blocking Traffic to Servers Believed Controlled by Criminal Gangs - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:55] <exec> 08└─you can only go after so many targets like that until you "accidentally" take out something legit
[16:12:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Common Joe [33] (Score:2) 02Re:not even sure where this is going - 06Level 3 Blocking Traffic to Servers Believed Controlled by Criminal Gangs - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:58] <exec> 08└─is this the death of the world wide web
[16:13:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Good for Level 3 - 06Level 3 Blocking Traffic to Servers Believed Controlled by Criminal Gangs - 633 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:04] <exec> 08└─The SSH Psychos have been pounding on my servers non-stop for months now from several very large blocks of extremely well known IP addresses. I have long since blocked them, but this should have been stopped at the source long ago. I blame the owner of those addresses for not taking ANY action whats...
[16:13:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02level 4 hosted on outlook - 06Level 3 Blocking Traffic to Servers Believed Controlled by Criminal Gangs - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:06] <exec> 08└─considering that most user are clueless and that has lead to a market share of 89% of a certain un-named company everybody with half a clue has to suffer because a traffic agnostic player is now shoved into the take-sides police role. because of one company! everybody has to suffer a future of "big-...
[16:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03penguinoid [5331] (Score:1) 02Re:Happens in any field - 06Our Obsession With Metrics is Corrupting Science - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:27] <exec> 08└─Usually the metric is "how much the boss likes you".
[16:13:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03kaszz [4211] 02Facebook still controls your profile with PGP key - 06Facebook Adds Support for PGP Keys to Profiles - 253 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:47] <exec> 08└─And the catch is that Facebook still controls the profile. It's simple to make a profile version where a specific IP range gets an doctored PGP key. Thus without some ability for users to verify the PGP key with an external source, it just feels secure.
[16:15:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:They did post it - albeit very late - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 603 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:13] <exec> 08└─I think the more likely scenario is: 1. Soulskill sees the SourceForge stories in the queue, decides to post one. 2. Soulskill stops himself at the last minute, decides that finding a new job would be a pain; and anyway Samzenpus is up next. 3. Samzenpus checks in, sees the backlog of SourceForge st...
[16:15:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:They did post it - albeit very late - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:14] <exec> 08└─1. Story was submitted. 2. Soulskill takes it from the queue
[16:15:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03penguinoid [5331] (Score:1) 02Re:They did post it - albeit very late - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:16] <exec> 08└─Their apology was so lame, I finally got around to making an account here at Soylent News. Seriously, did they think it would make anything better if they had a PR manager write the story and then made up (and changed) some excuses for why they buried the story? Could have just said, "Sorry our evil...
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[17:11:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Putin - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:39] <exec> 08└─Or - maybe you are projecting? Portray Putin in whatever light you like, but I really doubt that the funny looking bastard suffers from insecurity.
[17:11:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:OT: Re:Did this ever stop - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:42] <exec> 08└─No, he meant the recruitment & propaganda product delivered by the Department of War
[17:11:42] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02This is news? - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 1081 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:11:43] <exec> 08└─Cold War veteran here. This stuff was so routine, no reporter would waste his time reporting something like this. An unarmed Russian plane overflew a US destroyer? Hell, the SAILORS wouldn't even talk about that! Back in the day, Russian planes flew over, fully armed, and our guns tracked them from...
[17:11:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score:2) 02Re:This is news? - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:45] <exec> 08└─Bingo. We played ring-around-the-rosie with Russian ships in the Indian Ocean and North Pacific all the time. Tu-142's were our constant companions. Sometimes when we got close, we'd moon the suckers or just flip them the bird. It was a joke.
[17:11:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02US destroyer making passes at Russia - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 384 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:11:47] <exec> 08└─Anyone looking at a map will see that Black Sea has Russian coast line, and is thousands of miles away from the US. The one who is "making close pass" is the US warship. "International waters" my ass. If a Russian warship tried to come to 31 miles outside the East Coast of the US (still in "Internat...
[17:11:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:US destroyer making passes at Russia - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:48] <exec> 08└─>Black Sea Yeah, this would never happen in a white neighborhood.
[17:11:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:US destroyer making passes at Russia - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:50] <exec> 08└─The Black Sea is a white neighborhood.
[17:11:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:US destroyer making passes at Russia - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:51] <exec> 08└─I'm a Crimean Tartar, you insensitive clod!
[17:11:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:US destroyer making passes at Russia - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:53] <exec> 08└─I actually am in part. I'm white.
[17:11:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03n1 [993] 02Worth noting - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 399 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:11:54] <exec> 08└─I think when digesting this story it is worth keeping in mind the geographic location of the Black Sea. I'm sure the Russians will be the first to claim these were 'routine operations' along their Russian (and now including Crimean) borders. I wonder what would the reporting be like if a Russian mil...
[17:11:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Worth noting - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 738 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:56] <exec> 08└─I give odds that you wouldn't read about it. Scuttlebutt had it that there WERE Russian - rather Soviet - subs sunk off of Florida during the great space race. I never had it confirmed, maybe it was 100% bogus bullshit, but that was the scuttlebutt. I've done a few online searches over the year, att...
[17:11:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Worth noting - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 402 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:57] <exec> 08└─I give odds that you wouldn't read about it. Scuttlebutt had it that there WERE Russian - rather Soviet - subs sunk off of Florida during the great space race. I never had it confirmed, maybe it was 100% bogus bullshit, but that was the scuttlebutt. I've done a few online searches over the year, att...
[17:12:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Collateral Damage - 06Level 3 Blocking Traffic to Servers Believed Controlled by Criminal Gangs - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:22] <exec> 08└─Network security researchers usually investigate botnets based on which server they talk to. The fact that your bots keep talking to hosts acting like Minecraft servers will be picked up quickly for anything but the tiniest botnet.
[17:12:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:1) 02Re:Happens in any field - 06Our Obsession With Metrics is Corrupting Science - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:52] <exec> 08└─This happens any time you have a complex quality (e.g scientific worth) that you try to measure with a simple metric (e.g a single number). Instead of actually measuring the thing, you just end up measuring how well someone can game the simple metric.
[17:16:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Best of luck - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 1159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:33] <exec> 08└─I work in a research environment and I see more of my colleagues moving away from Matlab and IDL because they very expensive, and they are a real PITA dealing with the licenses and license servers. If you are in an academic environment, cost might not be an issue, but they really nail you for a non-...
[17:20:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:time to iradicate morons - 06Is it Time to Eradicate Measles? - 463 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:20:32] <exec> 08└─I'm most assuredly anti-vac, as you put it. Why? I can't justify putting unknown, untrusted, unverified, and unaccountable chemical compounds into a child, especially my own that I would love more than myself. There is simply no way I would expose them to the risks of being serviced by U.S pharmaceu...
[17:20:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02*catches stone before it strikes glass wall* - 06Is it Time to Eradicate Measles? - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:20:33] <exec> 08└─Time to iradicate morons
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[18:10:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03TLA [5128] (Score:2) 02this is getting familiar - 06Leak of Chlorine Gas at Apple Data Center - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:57] <exec> 08└─was it Samsung had a chlorine leak a few months back? I'll have a look through my slashdot submissions, I know I covered it even though it was buried (not newsworthy enough for them?)
[18:10:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03TLA [5128] (Score:2) 02Re:this is getting familiar - 06Leak of Chlorine Gas at Apple Data Center - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:58] <exec> 08└─yep, March 12, Travis County, TX. It was a sulphuric acid and peroxide spill though, not chlorine. Still necessitated a hazmat callout tho. http://slashdot.org [slashdot.org] (original submission on the other site, with source link)
[18:11:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:OT: Re:Did this ever stop - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:11] <exec> 08└─It had something for every interest.
[18:11:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:This is news? - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:14] <exec> 08└─> This stuff was so routine, Emphasis on the WAS. The fact that it is starting up again is what makes it worth 'wasting time' reporting on. Kind of like how kids in the US to get sick and die from the measles all the time, but now when it happens it is newsworthy.
[18:11:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Worth noting - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:23] <exec> 08└─> I wonder what would the reporting be like if a Russian military vessel was performing 'routine operations' in international waters around the Gulf of Mexico? I don't know about the gulf, but living in Hawaii in the 80s anytime there was a russian warship nearby it made the 5-oclock news.
[18:11:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Worth noting - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:25] <exec> 08└─I wonder what would the reporting be like if a Russian military vessel was performing 'routine operations' in international waters around the Gulf of Mexico?
[18:11:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03middlemen [504] (Score:3, Funny) 02they were selling.... - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:11:27] <exec> 08└─They might have been selling Russian Brides to those weary US sailors !
[18:11:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03TLA [5128] (Score:2) 02this is bugging the shit out of me - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 778 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:11:28] <exec> 08└─the US has no earthly business in the Black Sea, least of all pretending to be World Police. They're accusing Russia across the table of being aggressive, let's talk about the troops and equipment being deployed at all Russia's borders by the US, UK and their allies, and the blatant anti-Russian pro...
[18:11:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Collateral Damage - 06Level 3 Blocking Traffic to Servers Believed Controlled by Criminal Gangs - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:55] <exec> 08└─Oooh, so the attack only affected 99% of all Internet users. That makes it so much better!
[18:12:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03kadal [4731] (Score:2) 02law and order - 06Level 3 Blocking Traffic to Servers Believed Controlled by Criminal Gangs - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:12:06] <exec> 08└─I feel like this is a law and order problem. Criminals use the highways but it's the police that catch them not the department that maintains the highway. At least notify the internet authority in the country before taking it out. That said if this was some Chinese military unit, then I'm not sure w...
[18:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re: To folks who understand computer security - 06Cybersecurity and the Tylenol Murders - 956 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:39] <exec> 08└─" it's plain that the key problem are our vulnerable infrastructure and weak computer security" Not sure who your talking to, but if they know, they are giving you the marketing departments version. "infrastructure" and "weak computer security" doesn't BEGIN to describe the problem. Pretty much the...
[18:14:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03number6 [1831] (Score:2) 02GoogleCode was my favorite FOSS web interface - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 1022 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:29] <exec> 08└─I am not a developer but just a long-time desktop computer power user. Occasionally I have need for a custom small program and I pay someone to make it---the deal is always: cash no receipts, post the code when finished to a public code repository as FREE OPEN SOURCE GPLv3(if possible) and if it is...
[18:17:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02Re:Americans are celebrating - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:17:41] <exec> 08└─and congress can defund those programs, and all the ops will go home to be with their families.
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[19:11:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:this is getting familiar - 06Leak of Chlorine Gas at Apple Data Center - 1126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:49] <exec> 08└─I consider this to be news that is more regional and less "specific to IT", except for the obvious concern that it happened at Apple. I don't want to ask or say "why is this here, this isn't tech news" -- but this seems to fall under that category (and I guess I said it anyway). We don't get article...
[19:11:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:this is getting familiar - 06Leak of Chlorine Gas at Apple Data Center - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:50] <exec> 08└─You've got to love how Intel's biggest-ever acquisition is still at five comments, while the last two "Meh" stories were way past that mark in a few minutes.
[19:11:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03TLA [5128] (Score:2) 02Re:this is getting familiar - 06Leak of Chlorine Gas at Apple Data Center - 797 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:52] <exec> 08└─Trichlorosilane (HSiCl3) is an intermediate compound used to produce extremely pure silicon, from which computer chips and other silicon based surface mounted components such as diodes and regulators. Chlorine was also used in some automatic firefighting systems (CFR, or chlorinated gas-phase fire r...
[19:11:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:this is getting familiar - 06Leak of Chlorine Gas at Apple Data Center - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:54] <exec> 08└─When will these companies stop copying each other ... maybe come up with a nice forklift accident or something.
[19:11:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Note from a former life ... - 06Leak of Chlorine Gas at Apple Data Center - 1161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:55] <exec> 08└─I worked as a firefighter in Henrietta, NY (near Rochester), for four years. As part of that I was certified to do HAZMAT operations, and got a real good look at how much that stuff rolls throughout the country, as we have I-90. Accidents were rare, but we had be really ware. For those unfamiliar wi...
[19:12:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03aclarke [2049] (Score:2) 02Re:OT: Re:Did this ever stop - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:12] <exec> 08└─...except, apparently, straight male pacifists.
[19:12:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:This is news? - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:16] <exec> 08└─So, all we need is to deny religious exemptions to the Cold War Vaccine?
[19:12:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aichon [5059] (Score:2) 02Re:US destroyer making passes at Russia - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:23] <exec> 08└─If a Russian warship tried to come to 31 miles outside the East Coast of the US (still in "International waters"), the US would have sent more than just 2 unarmed fighter plane at it.
[19:12:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Worth noting - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:28] <exec> 08└─There weren't any subs in the water that we couldn't track in the '80's.
[19:12:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03n1 [993] (Score:2) 02Re:Worth noting - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 1542 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:31] <exec> 08└─Appreciate your informative response, and that was basically the point I was making, it is indeed situation normal as it has ever been for at least my lifetime. This is sabre-rattling by both sides, and we should remember that the sabre-rattling also occurs in our name, and not just by our apparent...
[19:12:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Fast enough? - 06Intel Buying Altera for $16.7B - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:12:49] <exec> 08└─They never seemed fast enough to replace a modern cpu. I have seen articles where people emulate old cpus though. Has anyone here played with FPGAs before? How easy are they to get started with?
[19:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03rigrig [5129] (Score:1) 02Seems like a good idea - 06Facebook Adds Support for PGP Keys to Profiles - 665 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:04] <exec> 08└─Most importantly: from now on there will never be any plaintext password-reset mails for my Facebook account sent across the internet. As for people getting their public keys from Facebook: I wouldn't have a lot of trust in those keys, but for non-secret stuff that you'd just prefer to keep private,...
[19:15:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not again - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 511 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:15] <exec> 08└─Actually, when SF editors hijacked the account and locked out the previous maintainer of the code, that could definitely be seen as an act of fraud, and does act against DHI Group Inc's ethics policy. (Section IX specifically) "No employee, officer or director should take unfair advantage of anyone...
[19:15:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not again - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 459 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:16] <exec> 08└─I'm actually trying to get people organized in contacting DHI with our complaints, if you're interested in depriving Sourceforge of advertising revenue and (potentially) university mirror hosting. There is still lots of work to be done, but I am trying to spread the word, because I personally feel t...
[19:18:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:But does it make a difference? - 06Key Sections of the USA PATRIOT Act Expired - For Now - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:18:48] <exec> 08└─:D Yep. It's an amazing thing when you fully realize you can't trust the government or any corporation to act like human beings. So you need to get together with a group of them left you can find.... to decentralize and secure communications... so we can act like human beings again to each other wit...
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[20:12:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:1, Flamebait) 02Don't worry. - 06New Exploit Leaves Most Macs Vulnerable to Permanent Backdooring - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:12:25] <exec> 08└─Macs "don't get viruses." So rest easy, Apple users. Within just a few short weeks Apple computers will have a release. A press release. About how this isn't a virus.
[20:12:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't worry. - 06New Exploit Leaves Most Macs Vulnerable to Permanent Backdooring - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:26] <exec> 08└─Of course this isn't a virus. It is a vulnerability. Now one could write a virus that exploits that vulnerability, but what was reported was not such a virus, but the vulnerability. Whether there exists a virus using that vulnerability, we don't know.
[20:12:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't worry. - 06New Exploit Leaves Most Macs Vulnerable to Permanent Backdooring - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:28] <exec> 08└─See, here comes captain rebranding now, to save you!
[20:12:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't worry. - 06New Exploit Leaves Most Macs Vulnerable to Permanent Backdooring - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:30] <exec> 08└─Rebranding? And who is saving whom from what?
[20:12:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03captnjohnny1618 [5301] (Score:1) 02Re:Don't worry. - 06New Exploit Leaves Most Macs Vulnerable to Permanent Backdooring - 703 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:31] <exec> 08└─I mean, if we're being pedantic then *technically* there is a difference between a virus and a vulnerability. ;-) I was a mac user for almost as long as I've had my own computer. In the last year I've switched to linux on all of my machines (and replaced the mac computers) because the software has...
[20:12:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't worry. - 06New Exploit Leaves Most Macs Vulnerable to Permanent Backdooring - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:33] <exec> 08└─Rest easy Apple users? You Haterade addicts are the ones that come out of the woodwork whenever something like this happens. I wouldn't mind, but normally the "'My shit don't stink!" attitude is an Apple-fanboy trait.
[20:12:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Linux - 06New Exploit Leaves Most Macs Vulnerable to Permanent Backdooring - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:12:34] <exec> 08└─Does this mean it is even easier to put a Linux on a mac than it was before? Is this a way around UEFI?
[20:12:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Re:Linux - 06New Exploit Leaves Most Macs Vulnerable to Permanent Backdooring - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:36] <exec> 08└─It's always been possible to put Linux on an EFI Macintosh. [sourceforge.net]
[20:12:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02I'm confused - 06New Exploit Leaves Most Macs Vulnerable to Permanent Backdooring - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:12:38] <exec> 08└─Wouldn't mac users consider backdooring something good?
[20:12:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:this is getting familiar - 06Leak of Chlorine Gas at Apple Data Center - 1134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:12:47] <exec> 08└─But why would a data center have chlorine gas? Halon is breathable, and wouldn't necessitate ambulances and paramedics, so I don't think we can assume the chlorine was from the Halon system. BTW: Halon manufacture is banned in the US, but existing halon systems can continue to be used(at least until...
[20:12:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:this is getting familiar - 06Leak of Chlorine Gas at Apple Data Center - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:12:49] <exec> 08└─No, speculation I had brought up was that the gas was used to kill what may otherwise grow in the AC plumbing, but otherwise has leaked. Unless they are trying to start a meth lab in the data center or something.
[20:12:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03forkazoo [2561] (Score:2) 02Re:this is getting familiar - 06Leak of Chlorine Gas at Apple Data Center - 604 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:12:51] <exec> 08└─I don't think it's the fact that it's Apple as much as the fact that it apparently happened at a Data Center. Very large scale data centers are a relatively new thing, and few people have actually worked in one that size, so the hazards are non obvious, and still fairly interesting. Personally, I ha...
[20:12:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:this is getting familiar - 06Leak of Chlorine Gas at Apple Data Center - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:12:52] <exec> 08└─I'm just tired of all these leaks Apple has to deal with about this time every year. Spoilers!!
[20:13:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:OT: Re:Did this ever stop - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:11] <exec> 08└─except, apparently, straight male...
[20:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03forkazoo [2561] (Score:2) 02Re:Fast enough? - 06Intel Buying Altera for $16.7B - 941 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:47] <exec> 08└─I've never actually played with one, but they'll never be fast enough to replace a modern CPU. That's not the point. Spending X transistors on building a CPU will get you a CPU. Spending X transistors on an FPGA to configure as a CPU will always mean that you can run it as a CPU with X transistors....
[20:15:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:That's good... eventually. - 06Facebook Adds Support for PGP Keys to Profiles - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:15:07] <exec> 08└─Then you realize that PGP pubkeys in the hand of a social network gives them too much power, and distribute them in other ways, but at least you know what's it all about.
[20:17:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03TK [2760] (Score:2) 02Re:Amazing - 06Self-Folding Robot Walks, Swims, Climbs, Dissolves - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:17:08] <exec> 08└─It reminded me of a butterfly. If its possible to make biological robots, the first place to start would naturally be an insect analog. That should get your spine tingling.
[20:17:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:Is it such a good thing that we don't pay for s - 06Windows 10 Arriving as Free Update July 29th - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:17:47] <exec> 08└─Then you've never seen Zombieland.
[20:17:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:Backwards compatibility? - 06Windows 10 Arriving as Free Update July 29th - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:17:53] <exec> 08└─Windows Vista isn't currently on the slate for free upgrades.
[20:17:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:Backwards compatibility? - 06Windows 10 Arriving as Free Update July 29th - 960 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:17:55] <exec> 08└─Windows 10 can't be any worse than Windows 8. In fact it may very well be an improvement. Unless you're already used to the horror that is metro. The one thing that I find annoying is that they have their app store built-in and it's not in an inconspicuous place. It's right there in the Windows Menu...
[20:23:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Do eating habits have an effect on HIV dev.? - 06HIV's Sweet Tooth is its Downfall - 1272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:23:25] <exec> 08└─Very high in meats, very low in carbohydrates, except for things like broccoli, etc. Beans pretty much ok, but limited. Cabbage, brussel sprouts, etc. ok. Sugar only in fruit, and then in extreme moderation. The meat was largely low fat cuts. For reasons of economy this meant a lot of chicken and tu...
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[21:11:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't worry. - 06New Exploit Leaves Most Macs Vulnerable to Permanent Backdooring - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:55] <exec> 08└─Well, I can see why it got modded flamebait now. A harmless joke turned you into a raving lunatic.
[21:11:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't worry. - 06New Exploit Leaves Most Macs Vulnerable to Permanent Backdooring - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:56] <exec> 08└─Heh. Yeah, we get it, your shit doesn't stink. Move on.
[21:11:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:Linux - 06New Exploit Leaves Most Macs Vulnerable to Permanent Backdooring - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:59] <exec> 08└─I think you missed a certain story about sourceforge titled "SourceForge Using Mirrored Projects and Including Adware" https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org]. I'm pretty much done with anything sourceforge related now...
[21:12:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Another non-story on SoylentNews... - 06New Exploit Leaves Most Macs Vulnerable to Permanent Backdooring - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:12:02] <exec> 08└─New Exploit Leaves Most Macs Vulnerable to Permanent Backdooring
[21:12:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:this is getting familiar - 06Leak of Chlorine Gas at Apple Data Center - 713 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:12:13] <exec> 08└─Chipmaker buys chipmaker, eh. Like thats never happened before. Chlorine leak in a data center? That doesn't happen every day, or ... ever. WTF are they doing with chlorine in a data center? The data centers, COs, transmitter sites, microwave relay sites, telecom rooms, repeater sites I've been in n...
[21:12:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Note from a former life ... - 06Leak of Chlorine Gas at Apple Data Center - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:12:23] <exec> 08└─you'd be shocked that almost every large business at least has something classified by OHS as HAZMAT
[21:12:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Note from a former life ... - 06Leak of Chlorine Gas at Apple Data Center - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:12:25] <exec> 08└─That sounds a bit excessive. Reporting requirements for a given substance are set by OHS; you only need the MSDS if you have more than X on site ...
[21:12:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Putin - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:35] <exec> 08└─Nah, he's probably hiding out at some golf course.
[21:12:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:This is news? - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:45] <exec> 08└─" they would come full ahead, like they intended to ram. Games of chicken played at speed, on the open ocean." ... "We were professionals, they were professionals" Rational thought veteran here. These two sentences don't go together. These commanders where children operating deadly machinery at sea.
[21:12:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Worth noting - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:56] <exec> 08└─I was under the impression from a sim game (Dangerous Waters) that diesels like the Kilo-class could be pretty damn stealthy, is that not the case?
[21:13:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Good news - 06Intel Buying Altera for $16.7B - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:10] <exec> 08└─Any specific acquisitions in mind? :P
[21:13:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:2) 02Re:Good news - 06Intel Buying Altera for $16.7B - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:11] <exec> 08└─What I mean is that Intel will fuck up Altera like they have everything else they've bought.
[21:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Fast enough? - 06Intel Buying Altera for $16.7B - 783 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:19] <exec> 08└─Implementing a CPU in FPGA requires more gates than said CPU because the FPGA needs a configuration support structure. And the latency between those gates will be slower than said CPU. So if one implements a CPU on FPGA and runs a video compression codec. It will be slower. The nice thing about FPGA...
[21:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Fast enough? - 06Intel Buying Altera for $16.7B - 788 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:21] <exec> 08└─Pretty much this. I deal with FPGA on a daily basis. You don't use them for sequential CPU operations, you use them for parallel pipelined processing. If the clock seems slow at only 400MHz, it also that means you're pipelining a new chunk of data every 2.5ns. Apply this to a 1000-bit-wide bus, and...
[21:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:not even sure where this is going - P2P ? - 06Level 3 Blocking Traffic to Servers Believed Controlled by Criminal Gangs - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:38] <exec> 08└─Relying on http servers and clients is damn sensitive setup. I think the time is long overdue for a reliable P2P solution. That should eliminate some of the most obvious DoS, "nice server you got there" and infrastructure failure issues.
[21:13:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good for Level 3 - 06Level 3 Blocking Traffic to Servers Believed Controlled by Criminal Gangs - 396 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:44] <exec> 08└─While I agree with you in principal, this is a huge stick they are wielding. The issue becomes fragmentation of the internet when nobody can remember why we blocked some block of addresses in the first place. The first rule put in place will be easy...but once we get 50+ rules stuff will start break...
[21:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:level 4 hosted on outlook - 06Level 3 Blocking Traffic to Servers Believed Controlled by Criminal Gangs - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:47] <exec> 08└─In OpenBSD there's even a firewall switch to identify TCP traffic from Microsoft computers. So one could make use of it and for every Microsoft TCP packet block that IP for hours until they upgrade? ;^)
[21:13:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:Biebermetrics - 06Our Obsession With Metrics is Corrupting Science - 536 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:59] <exec> 08└─You have a point. You might as well be using random noise: at least it won't unfairly benefit the liars and sociopaths. Metrics applied by bureaucratic bean counters have corrupted EVERYTHING they have ever come into contact with. So I am not sure why everyone is surprised. This was a problem at the...
[21:14:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Seems like a good idea - 06Facebook Adds Support for PGP Keys to Profiles - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
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[21:16:29] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Entropy [4228] 02I'll keep Windows 7, thanks.. - 06Windows 10 Arriving as Free Update July 29th - 59 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:16:29] <exec> 08└─Who knows what nonsense Windows 10 will bring to the table.
[21:21:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:time to iradicate morons - 06Is it Time to Eradicate Measles? - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:21:26] <exec> 08└─Studies such as that are necessary to introduce a new treatment. The MMR is nothing like new. We have a study size of millions AKA the general population over a multi-decade time frame. Everyone around you got it (probably including you). No 1000 subject study covering a couple years is going to tur...
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[22:09:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Wow... for a couple of hours... - 06Senate Passes USA Freedom Act - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:09] <exec> 08└─For just a couple of hours, I was a more free American, and the government was less Big Brother and shitty. Well that lasted about as long as I fucking thought it would Guess we're back to innovating around the government's need to eliminate our rights?
[22:09:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Wow... for a couple of hours... - 06Senate Passes USA Freedom Act - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:10] <exec> 08└─Well that lasted about as long as I [was] fucking (full stop)
[22:09:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What a bunch of fucking assholes - 06Senate Passes USA Freedom Act - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:11] <exec> 08└─What a bunch of fucking assholes
[22:09:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:What a bunch of fucking assholes - 06Senate Passes USA Freedom Act - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:13] <exec> 08└─Don't forget criminals. Searches without warrants is against the law in my books.
[22:09:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:What a bunch of fucking assholes - 06Senate Passes USA Freedom Act - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:15] <exec> 08└─governments around the world have made it clear that the only law that they care about comes from the barrel of a gun.
[22:09:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:3, Informative) 02Interesting Comment - 06Senate Passes USA Freedom Act - 1242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:16] <exec> 08└─TL;DR NSA Shutdown their phone collection gathering just to start it back up again. Yay, Freedom... Comment taken from the Guardian Link listed in the article: " 5.15pm 17:15 NSA to temporarily restart bulk collection In a bizarre twist, the passage of the USA Freedom Act – a bill that will end a...
[22:09:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Interesting Comment - 06Senate Passes USA Freedom Act - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:18] <exec> 08└─I do have to repair my trailer, so I have one that works before I get a new one this winter. I haven't carried anything on my trailer, ever. It's the most expensive model, too.
[22:09:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Interesting Comment - 06Senate Passes USA Freedom Act - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:19] <exec> 08└─When the government was taking it all, (don't believe that pen register data bullshit for a second) they had the capability for full digital take on the entire conversation. Even Carriers don't spin that much storage. So this suggests maybe it will be back to just pen register data from now on. I'd...
[22:09:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Let me check Israel... - 06Senate Passes USA Freedom Act - 914 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:21] <exec> 08└─So, looking at the experience of a country with legitimate reasons to fear terrorist actions, let's figure out what we're getting voted in next, to protect the children: - Mandatory gun carrying: everyone, not just the conscripts, because this is 'Murrica - Systematic laws discriminating citiz...
[22:09:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02It's a start - 06Senate Passes USA Freedom Act - 955 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:23] <exec> 08└─As nice as it would have been to have the Patriot Act completely go away, it was unrealistic to expect that to happen overnight. Government changes at a glacial pace. The Patriot Act was just the latest in a long series of moves towards one end - and it looks like it might be the high-water mark, si...
[22:09:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's a start - 06Senate Passes USA Freedom Act - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:24] <exec> 08└─The Freedom Act didn't pass in the form we all wanted, not by a long shot. But it's better than the Patriot Act. We did win - a small victory, to be true, but victory was ours
[22:09:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02ADBB - 06Senate Passes USA Freedom Act - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:26] <exec> 08└─From Phoenix666's [soylentnews.org] story submission, the answer is: Avoid Surveillance Distort Surveillance Block Surveillance Break Surveillance
[22:09:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Americans aren't so bad after all - 06Senate Passes USA Freedom Act - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:28] <exec> 08└─Senate Passes USA Freedom Act
[22:09:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Americans aren't so bad after all - 06Senate Passes USA Freedom Act - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:29] <exec> 08└─We get irony forced down our throats.
[22:09:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Americans aren't so bad after all - 06Senate Passes USA Freedom Act - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:31] <exec> 08└─I get irony... it's sort of like a metal.
[22:09:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Diane Feinstein - 06Senate Passes USA Freedom Act - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:33] <exec> 08└─“I believe these programs are necessary to protect American lives and prevent terrorist attacks in our country,” she said in a statement.
[22:09:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02It's the economics.. - 06Can Information Technology End World Hunger? Not So Fast, Says Researcher - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:34] <exec> 08└─If you go to a typical rural clinic, it's not the kind of place that anybody from the United States would think of as a decent place to get health care. Bringing along a laptop, connecting it to wireless, and providing Internet so you can do telemedicine is just an incredibly thin cover. It's a thin...
[22:09:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03zeigerpuppy [1298] (Score:2) 02Thinking hackintosh is vulnerable too - 06New Exploit Leaves Most Macs Vulnerable to Permanent Backdooring - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:57] <exec> 08└─This exploits a hole in the S3 suspend/resume Good discussion here https://reverse.put.as [reverse.put.as] Looks like it needs root to rewrite the bios but this would be quite nasty. Will be interesting to...
[22:12:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Not again - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:12:03] <exec> 08└─Any time I hear "some people say..." I expect it to end with "All we know, is he's called The Stig!"
[22:13:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03novak [4683] (Score:2) 02Re:MatLab is a tool of the Devil - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 886 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:15] <exec> 08└─As someone who has written matlab professionally, I agree entirely. The language is poorly made for general use and extremely slow. Just play around with named pipes on linux and you'll see what I mean. When analyzing non-trivial data sets who in their right mind would choose an interpreted language...
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[23:09:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:nice bill - 06Senate Passes USA Freedom Act - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:10] <exec> 08└─Patriot Act vs. USA Freedom Act Heads, they win Tails, you lose Somehow, commercially outsourcing of government spying on your personal communications is viewed as a victory for civil liberty. Double tap, right to the head.
[23:09:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:nice bill - 06Senate Passes USA Freedom Act - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:11] <exec> 08└─Our only hope is that the carriers are incompetent.
[23:09:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Interesting Comment - 06Senate Passes USA Freedom Act - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:20] <exec> 08└─Why would you want companies to hold the data instead? The problem is that the data is being gathered for the government *at all*. This bill is pure garbage.
[23:09:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:It's a start - 06Senate Passes USA Freedom Act - 724 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:25] <exec> 08└─So you'r going with Peak Spying? The precedent is now cast in stone as far as I can tell. They will not back down from this line in the sand. This bill extends sunsets in the Patriot act for ANOTHER 4 years. SEC. 705. SUNSETS. (a) USA PATRIOT Improvement And Reauthorization Act Of 2005.—Section 1...
[23:09:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:It's a start - 06Senate Passes USA Freedom Act - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:27] <exec> 08└─oops, broke my link to the full text https://www.congress.gov [congress.gov]
[23:09:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:ADBB - 06Senate Passes USA Freedom Act - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:28] <exec> 08└─CREDO mobile? Are you serious? You do understand what a n mobile virtual network operator is don't you? You do know that NOBODY is going to talk to CREDO, they are going to go direct to Sprint. Credo hasn't got any actual network. All they do is funnel some money to Dianne Feinstein, who fought toot...
[23:09:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:ADBB - 06Senate Passes USA Freedom Act - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:30] <exec> 08└─trust this random John or Jane Doe with their connection hardware to exchange it with mine. In doing so, we both obfuscate our true identities and communications. If were to both do so again anonymously in a few days with other citizens, even further obfuscation is possible. A group of a few thousan...
[23:09:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Americans aren't so bad after all - 06Senate Passes USA Freedom Act - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:33] <exec> 08└─It's like "goldy" and "bronzy" only it's made out of iron. -Baldrick.
[23:09:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Diane Feinstein - 06Senate Passes USA Freedom Act - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:35] <exec> 08└─Instead, I want her to act on what is known and proven to work.
[23:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Would that be a warrant from - 06Senate Passes USA Freedom Act - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:37] <exec> 08└─a court with legitimate jurisdiction, or John Roberts pet rubber stamp secret squirrel pseudo-court?
[23:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Would that be a warrant from - 06Senate Passes USA Freedom Act - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:38] <exec> 08└─Doesn't matter. It's unconstitutional for them to even collect the information without a warrant.
[23:09:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Most of the posters here live in LaLa-land - 06Senate Passes USA Freedom Act - 776 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:40] <exec> 08└─Where we don't need surveillance to prevent 9-11, the London Underground bombings and Oklahoma City, We just need good ol' fashioned police work using publicly available communication sources like public FB and Instagram posts, along with a relative few court-ordered warrants for wiretaps and interc...
[23:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03pnkwarhall [4558] (Score:2) 02Re:It's the economics.. - 06Can Information Technology End World Hunger? Not So Fast, Says Researcher - 765 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:46] <exec> 08└─If you think that "kids being happy to play games" is a problem, then **you** have a problem--a very distorted and backwards value system. Games are one of the most significant ways that children learn! More importantly, the last thing I want, as a parent, is my children worrying about "getting a pa...
[23:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Wat? - 06Site Upgrade - Rehash 15.05.1 - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:54] <exec> 08└─So you reversed the polarity of the neutron flow. Brilliant, just like putting too much air into a balloon!
[23:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03iWantToKeepAnon [686] (Score:2) 02Nice pun! - 06Site Upgrade - Rehash 15.05.1 - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:55] <exec> 08└─soyling
[23:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03iWantToKeepAnon [686] (Score:2) 02Re:Nice pun! - 06Site Upgrade - Rehash 15.05.1 - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:57] <exec> 08└─BTW, great job on such a HUGE upgrade!
[23:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrcoolbp [68] (Score:2) 02Re:Nice pun! - 06Site Upgrade - Rehash 15.05.1 - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:59] <exec> 08└─Slashcode vs Rehash quick answer: Basically with this major overhaul of some under-the-hood stuff (namely porting to mod_perl version 2), we've decided to differentiate our fork of slashcode with a new name -- rehash. There's some more info in this post [soylentnews.org] (scroll down to "Introducing...
[23:09:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02woah - 06Site Upgrade - Rehash 15.05.1 - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:10:00] <exec> 08└─This caused article load to be O(n*m), where n was the number of articles in the database and m was the number of articles with the neverdisplay attribute set.
[23:10:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Putin - 06Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:52] <exec> 08└─The Big Black C?
[23:12:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Happens in any field - 06Our Obsession With Metrics is Corrupting Science - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:12:36] <exec> 08└─This happens any time you have a complex quality (e.g scientific worth) that you try to measure with a simple metric (e.g a single number). Instead of actually measuring the thing, you just end up measuring how well someone can game the simple metric.
[23:13:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zanothis [3445] (Score:1) 02If you can't read Japanese - 06Exiii Hackberry, an Open Sourced 3D Printed Bionic Hand - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:13:17] <exec> 08└─If you can't read Japanese but you can read this comment, here's [exiii.jp] the link for you.
[23:14:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Re:Where Can I Find Unbiased News? - 06Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:28] <exec> 08└─My solution is to stop trying to look for unbiased news and just argue against any person I'm talking to, regardless of the topic or their stance on it.
[23:15:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Backwards compatibility? - 06Windows 10 Arriving as Free Update July 29th - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:15:35] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I know. The point I was trying to make was that . . . . well, let's just forget it, OK?
[23:15:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I really like the adware - 06Windows 10 Arriving as Free Update July 29th - 591 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:37] <exec> 08└─That little icon that popped up, wow is that cool. Pretty much puts windows 10 on the same level as Ubuntu. (Sorry Ubuntu) Maybe next they'll emulate Sourceforges, pimp-a-GIMP move and attach their own advertisements to your communications with third parties. There is a point were forced installs, a...
[23:15:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Julia is a more modern answer. - 06GNU Octave - Open Source Answer to Matlab - Hits 4.0.0 - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:15:48] <exec> 08└─How about Sage? http://www.sagemath.org I've never used it myself but I see it mentioned quite frequently in such contexts (I only use Pari/GP for the kinds of things I need.)
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