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[00:00:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Drug War - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:00:01] <exec> 08└─Shill. She's not dead, and she's the other dealer's girlfriend's third aunt.
[00:00:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Poor bastard - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:00:08] <exec> 08└─Better to die now than be in prison for a week, let alone 30 years. Better to kill before you die. Why didn't he fight?
[00:00:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Poor bastard - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:00:09] <exec> 08└─He was swarmed by FBI in a public library. I don't think he had a weapon with him or even time to resist.
[00:00:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Poor bastard - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:00:11] <exec> 08└─I wonder what his reasonable odds of expecting that [revoke sentence] to happen is.
[00:00:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Re:Poor bastard - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 1263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:00:13] <exec> 08└─Since both you and GP are making good (if brief) points, perhaps a compromise solution is in order: Eliminate life imprisonment as a distinct punishment. Replace it with either lengthy jail terms or capital punishment, depending on the crime (IMO the only crimes even potentially worthy of death are...
[00:00:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Doh! - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:00:15] <exec> 08└─Totally right. We should punish him the same manner as anyone who sells products known to be potentially harmful to humans if they take too much of them. Quick, someone look up what we did to the heads of the tobacco, alcohol, and fast food/soda industries.
[00:00:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Doh! - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:00:16] <exec> 08└─>> Sentencing should be based on harm done, > > And the ODs? No harm no foul? What part of that is unclear?
[00:00:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03CortoMaltese [5244] (Score:2) 02Re:On the Internet... So it is different. Somehow. - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:00:19] <exec> 08└─He was caught because of bad OpSec, not because of an inherent flaw in Tor or Bitcoin
[00:00:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Societal harm hogwash - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 526 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:00:21] <exec> 08└─The judge told DPR in the sentencing, according to the NY Times story, “what you did in connection with Silk Road was terribly destructive to our social fabric.” I find that statement to be fully of irony given that the criminal justice system has probably done far more harm to the social fabric...
[00:00:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Societal harm hogwash - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:00:22] <exec> 08└─She's a cunt, what do you expect. She loves the current society. Women have power over men in all things. Men can't marry cute young girls. What's not to like. Prison for anyone opposed. After taking their children via CPS ofcourse.
[00:00:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02robotics - 06Memory Alloy Bounces Back into Shape 10 Million Times - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:00:30] <exec> 08└─Bendy metal could make walking robots [theregister.co.uk] more efficient.
[00:00:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score:1) 02Alzheimers - 06Scientists Figure Out How to Retrieve "Lost" Memories - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:00:50] <exec> 08└─I would like to see this applied to cases of dementia where memory is affected. I have an elderly grandparent with a pretty severe case yet sometimes the connections work and memories are expressed. It would be nice if a technique was developed to sort of "flash" the brain a new file management syst...
[00:01:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:"Special rapporteur" - 06U.N. Special Rapporteur: Encryption Necessary for Human Rights - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:01:43] <exec> 08└─The French word for reporter is reporter [wiktionary.org]/reporteur, journaliste, correspondant or envoyé [wiktionary.org]. The UN Special Rapporteurs are more like investigators. The root word "rapport" [wikipedia.org] can be defined as "a close and harmonious relationship in which the people or g...
[00:01:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Concerns over that the state can't fuck citizens - 06U.N. Special Rapporteur: Encryption Necessary for Human Rights - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:01:44] <exec> 08└─newly appointed U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch has become the latest Obama administration official to express "concerns" over encryption
[00:01:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Concerns over that the state can't fuck citizen - 06U.N. Special Rapporteur: Encryption Necessary for Human Rights - 2971 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:01:46] <exec> 08└─Although I was tempted to call encryption a "human right" in the headline, the report's argument is more that encryption and anonymity are necessary for human rights, like freedom of expression and privacy, as well as protection from people harming you. The report says this: Restrictions on encrypti...
[00:01:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedBear [1734] (Score:2) 02Re:WARNING! - 06Chemists Discover Key Reaction Mechanism Behind the Sodium-Oxygen Battery - 4336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:01:56] <exec> 08└─Funny story, and largely on-topic. I was in chemistry class in high school once upon a time. We were in the lab, where the chemistry teacher had just recently finished giving us all the important lecture about Not Doing Anything Stupid whenever one is in the chemistry lab, and how Doing Anything Stu...
[00:02:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You can't buy your way out of superstition - 06The Quest to Synthesize Rhino Horn - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:02:40] <exec> 08└─The records which buyers will expect will be a photograph of a recent newspaper next to the bloody carcass of the rhinoceros --- they want freshness and proof of a dead animal so as to enhance their virility.
[00:06:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Degrees of Stupidity - 06Pakistan's Largest Software Exporter CEO Arrested for Allegedly Selling Fake Degrees - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:06:26] <exec> 08└─the clueless HR bunnies effectively gatekeep non-degree applicants from even getting to the hiring manager because they don't meet qualifications.
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[00:59:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:What could possibly go wrong? - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:59:46] <exec> 08└─Racism is in the structure of institutions and the assumptions and bias of the culture. You may "reprogram" overt prejudice - but it still won't be safe for a black man to make minor infractions of the law in USA, without risking being killed by cops. And all the clucking by privileged ignorant peop...
[00:59:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What could possibly go wrong? - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:59:47] <exec> 08└─So if it can't be changed, then it can't be solved and therefore is not a problem. No sense dwelling on it anymore than dwelling on how unfair gravity is to tall people.
[00:59:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:SJW heaven - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 1762 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:59:51] <exec> 08└─On the other hand... maybe we can fix Anita Sarkeesian! The question is, as always, "Who gets to define normal?" What about religion? Can we convert people to Islam? Can we convert them to Christianity? Could we classify religious belief as a mental disorder and cure us all to atheists? How long bef...
[00:59:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Treatment? - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:59:55] <exec> 08└─"... treatment of racism, sexism and other biases" Why would I ever want to get rid of this?
[00:59:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Treatment? - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:59:56] <exec> 08└─You probably also have a bias as to the sexual partners and acts you enjoy. With this new technology we may be able to cure you of heterosexuality (but never homosexuality or dysphoria; The former shouldn't be cured, and only genital mutilation and hormones are acceptable for the latter).
[00:59:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Murdoc [2518] (Score:1) 02Well this is horrifying - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 373 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:59:58] <exec> 08└─I'm sure that the potential for abuse is obvious, and it certainly is not the way to go about curing these social ills. All that's needed is to start teaching people critical thinking and the rest will attend to itself, once they are good enough at it. And it shouldn't be a hard sell either; who wou...
[00:59:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Well this is horrifying - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:00:00] <exec> 08└─who wouldn't want to learn it when it can help you in every aspect of your life?
[01:00:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03edIII [791] 02Re:Drug War - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 2055 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:00:11] <exec> 08└─Exactly. Kind of hard to level the entire responsibility for the kid's deaths at his feet, when the government can equally share the blame IMHO. Overdoses happen because it was made illegal, no Q&A during manufacturing, and no true accountability. Of course the government will retort, "But EdIII, it...
[01:00:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Drug War - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:00:12] <exec> 08└─Wow. I bet nothing is ever your fault.
[01:00:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Popcorn Sutton did just that. - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 533 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:00:22] <exec> 08└─From Wikipedia: [wikipedia.org] Marvin "Popcorn" Sutton (October 5, 1946 – March 16, 2009) was an American Appalachian moonshiner originally from Maggie Valley, North Carolina. He wrote a self-published autobiographical guide to moonshine production, and self-produced a home video depicting his m...
[01:00:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Re:Doh! - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:00:29] <exec> 08└─There's a particularly brutal way to interpret the social contract theory: if you don't accept society's laws, society has no reason to hold back in dealing with you. No matter how you arrange society that brutality bears down on someone at some time in some form. Living with human beings gets ugly.
[01:01:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Savings? You mean layoffs - 06Chipmaker Avago Buys Broadcom for $37B - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:01:22] <exec> 08└─The two companies said they expected the deal to produce $750 million in savings over the first 18 months of their union.
[01:01:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:whu? - 06U.N. Special Rapporteur: Encryption Necessary for Human Rights - 1188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:01:50] <exec> 08└─Not really. Plenty of encryption techniques, including most of those used on the web (https, etc), involve negotiating a new secret key at the beginning of every "conversation" (and creating a secret key over an open channel is an art unto itself). Neither side needs any knowledge of who they're tal...
[01:06:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:HST - 06Pakistan's Largest Software Exporter CEO Arrested for Allegedly Selling Fake Degrees - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:06:42] <exec> 08└─one with a literary history more about beheadings and rape
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[01:59:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Funny) 02Save taxpayer money - 06NASA's JPL Joins DARPA on "Memex" Deep Web Search - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:59:44] <exec> 08└─Just hand it to google with an CC license and let them index them.
[01:59:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kell [292] (Score:2) 02Re:Double Entendre - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:59:56] <exec> 08└─A black swan event.
[01:59:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What could possibly go wrong? - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:59:59] <exec> 08└─> So if it can't be changed, Because cultural institutions are set in stone.
[02:00:00] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02isn't this the place - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 81 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:00:01] <exec> 08└─This seems the place for the obligatory "What could Possibly Go Wrong?" question.
[02:00:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Religions.... - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 904 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:00:10] <exec> 08└─Doesn't the original brainwashing techniques have their basis in religion? The whole thing hinges on salesmanship. Can you get others to drink your kool-aid? Will they ignore their own friends if you tell them to? The whole idea seemed to be able to sweet-talk people ( leadership skills ) into placi...
[02:00:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Caution - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:00:12] <exec> 08└─These are the social 'sciences' we're talking about here. I'd be hesitant to believe any study out of these fields due to all the subjectivity, bias, and the lack of scientific rigor. Many times, no alternative possibilities are even considered, or at least aren't reported on.
[02:00:42] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03jmorris [4844] 02On the Internet... So it is different. Somehow. - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 622 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:00:42] <exec> 08└─Seriously. This guy was running a massive drug distribution gang. Among many other criminal activities almost too numerous to list. He got caught, never really pretended to be innocent and was duly convicted and sentenced. Agree or disagree with whether selling drugs should be illegal, it is and peo...
[02:00:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03mendax [2840] 02Societal harm hogwash - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 526 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:00:44] <exec> 08└─The judge told DPR in the sentencing, according to the NY Times story, “what you did in connection with Silk Road was terribly destructive to our social fabric.” I find that statement to be fully of irony given that the criminal justice system has probably done far more harm to the social fabric...
[02:00:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Solid state refrigerator? - 06Memory Alloy Bounces Back into Shape 10 Million Times - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:00:55] <exec> 08└─"So instead of that liquid, you could use this alloy."
[02:01:29] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] 02Re:pooo - 06Chipmaker Avago Buys Broadcom for $37B - 319 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:29] <exec> 08└─It's an old semiconductor division from HP that was spun off with Agilent then bought out by two investment firms, incorporated in Singapore and jointly headquartered in Singapore and California. How much of it is Asian vs American is quite blurred. Though, they have been busy buying out everyone in...
[02:02:04] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03takyon [881] 02Re:"Special rapporteur" - 06U.N. Special Rapporteur: Encryption Necessary for Human Rights - 487 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:05] <exec> 08└─United Nations Special Rapporteur [wikipedia.org] Special Rapporteur, Special Representative of the Secretary-General and Independent Expert are titles given to individuals working on behalf of the United Nations (UN) within the scope of "Special Procedures" mechanisms, who bear a specific mandate...
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[02:59:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Isn't that nice! - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:59:50] <exec> 08└─Nice for Microsoft, anyway. Millions of machines built to accomodate one and only one operating system. It might not be so bad, if manufacturers were building machines to accept only Linux, and sold those side-by-side with Microsoft-centric machines. But - THAT won't happen!
[02:59:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Han Solo says: - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:59:51] <exec> 08└─"I have a bad feeling about this."
[02:59:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02secure boot itself is fine - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 793 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:59:53] <exec> 08└─I'm fine with secure boot being always on. As long as I can still load my own keys and sign my own start up binaries. As long as -swe have that it can (and arguably -should- ) be on. It is more secure that way. Its also unclear whether this affects the various linux (red hat, ubuntu...) deals in pla...
[02:59:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Let them - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 1364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:59:54] <exec> 08└─It's been their OS being used in offices and at home by virtue of it being a flexible tool to run programs that's kept it alive. The windows dynasty has been losing steam for awhile, home users are no longer excited about their offerings and we all have a general dislike of the company due to their...
[02:59:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Potentially Illegal - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:59:56] <exec> 08└─This is really pushing the bounds of abuse of monopoly again. Boy, I wish someone saw this coming.
[03:00:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrchew1982 [3565] (Score:2) 02Hmm - 06NASA's JPL Joins DARPA on "Memex" Deep Web Search - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:00:04] <exec> 08└─Skynet? Is that you?
[03:00:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What could possibly go wrong? - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:00:19] <exec> 08└─According to Cornelius there, it won't make a difference and thus is irrelevant.
[03:00:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:SJW heaven - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:00:23] <exec> 08└─> If being attracted to a particular race is racism Error in premise.
[03:00:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:SJW heaven - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:00:25] <exec> 08└─If you do not explain yourself, all that you post are words strung together. A monkey can do that with wooden blocks. Try to be understood or you wont be.
[03:00:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Marketing assholes - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:00:28] <exec> 08└─No, they are known for their journalism school.
[03:00:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Caution - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:00:35] <exec> 08└─I'd be hesitant to believe any study out of these fields due to all the subjectivity, bias, and the lack of scientific rigor. Many times, no alternative possibilities are even considered,
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[03:00:37] <exec> 08└─Nope, you've pretty much nailed the modern Republican party.
[03:00:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03hash14 [1102] (Score:2) 02Re:Drug War - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:00:50] <exec> 08└─Oh, to hell with your arguments of values and responsibility. The only thing that matters here is the massive military-prison-industrial complex is making a killing off this little anti-drug scheme. Who gives a damn about responsible social policy when there's money to be made here, dammit!
[03:00:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Drug War - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:00:51] <exec> 08└─I guess your frustration with life is that everyone and everything has held you back not allowing you to reach your full potential. It isn't that you have any deficiencies or lack of skill, it is "the other guy", "that other institution" that keeps you down. Nothing is ever your fault, and you have...
[03:01:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Re:dont need memory when you have smartphones - 06Scientists Figure Out How to Retrieve "Lost" Memories - 546 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:43] <exec> 08└─Ah, yes. That video that exonerates you? It's already missing from cop's dash cam footage, and soon from their pocket cams too. As the technological complexity of the earth increases Hackers will wield the most power. Soon, if not already, some technology will be too dense for the Hacker, and the Cy...
[03:01:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:0) 02Re:dont need memory when you have smartphones - 06Scientists Figure Out How to Retrieve "Lost" Memories - 387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:44] <exec> 08└─I would take the risks and accept a brain implant that connects my brain to the internet - right now... I would even accept a wireless antenna poking out of my head and an ethernet cable in my neck. Hell yeah. Viruses worry me if this happens but the brain is better than a computer so I should be ab...
[03:01:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:0) 02Re:Alzheimers - 06Scientists Figure Out How to Retrieve "Lost" Memories - 778 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:47] <exec> 08└─I think we run Windows. Your grandparent (and Alzheimer's can be very bad) could probably start by running MBAM, cleaning the registry, and then performing a defrag. If this does not work then they should try a repair install as the problem may be win-rot. A bare metal re-install is nice but time co...
[03:02:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Special rapporteur" - 06U.N. Special Rapporteur: Encryption Necessary for Human Rights - 5 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:41] <exec> 08└─Nein.
[03:02:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:WARNING! - 06Chemists Discover Key Reaction Mechanism Behind the Sodium-Oxygen Battery - 1365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:57] <exec> 08└─Ok.. I had a similar run. In my first two years of college, taken at a community college, I worked as the chemistry lab assistant. It was the end of the semester. A bunch of organic chemistry students poured their beakers right down the drain. Some of those beakers had little strips of potassium in...
[03:03:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:Smooth Move, Editor. - 06Chemists Discover Key Reaction Mechanism Behind the Sodium-Oxygen Battery - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:03:06] <exec> 08└─read the original submission, it includes the "Another battery technology..." comment, the editor didn't explicitly add it.
[03:03:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Smooth Move, Editor. - 06Chemists Discover Key Reaction Mechanism Behind the Sodium-Oxygen Battery - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:03:08] <exec> 08└─My bad.
[03:06:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03juggs [63] (Score:2) 02Re:Egads! - 06META: Editorial Transparency - What do you want? - 797 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:06] <exec> 08└─It probably is a localisation thing. I was also brought up in the North of England and "fettling" has no connotations other than polishing something to be the best that it can be. Our aim for SN editorial activity is not to "editorialise" stories i.e. dramatise things or bias them one way or another...
[03:06:18] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03hemocyanin [186] 02Re:Shortened link to original submission - 06META: Editorial Transparency - What do you want? - 308 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:18] <exec> 08└─It's a discussion site - we don't *need* a full audit trail and accountability like we might if it were legal or financial data being edited - in that context some of the suggestions seem like total overkill to me - we certainly don't need to run submissions through a CVS so we can review every sing...
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[03:59:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Eurotard turning argument around to somehow shit o - 06Chinese Weaponry Spotted on Artificial Islands - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:59:47] <exec> 08└─n/t (n/t . . . n/t . . .) Wow. Even the "n/t" echoes in this chamber!
[03:59:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02just passing through - 06Chinese Weaponry Spotted on Artificial Islands - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:59:48] <exec> 08└─The motorized artillery pieces are peaceful travelers who made a pit stop on the island.
[03:59:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Lick my THROBBING CLIT - 06Chinese Weaponry Spotted on Artificial Islands - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:59:50] <exec> 08└─I'm so wet and slippery
[03:59:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't that nice! - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:00:00] <exec> 08└─I could have sword we discussed this back in March when the story first appeared on Ars. The general consensus back then was that no manufacturer of direct-to-consumer boards would be likely to do this, for fear of losing all sales. And unless Microsoft pays them, there is no advantage to the big ma...
[04:00:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Its a dupe: - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:00:01] <exec> 08└─https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/03/21/1333210 [soylentnews.org]
[04:00:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Its a dupe: - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:00:03] <exec> 08└─I could have sword
[04:00:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't that nice! - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 1574 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:00:04] <exec> 08└─I checked before posting and now this is a bit redundant because someone else basically said the same [soylentnews.org] but even so... I'm not too worried about Microsoft, it might even be a really good thing adding to the drive towards Free as in Freedom hardware. Let the people using Windows be ti...
[04:00:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:secure boot itself is fine - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 394 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:00:06] <exec> 08└─I refer you to the prior time we covered this issue. (link above). The problem is that there currently is only one key signer, although nothing prevents more, nobody else has stepped up. Microsoft will sign your key, maybe. They've signed shim keys for some of the big distros, but probably not for s...
[04:00:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:Potentially Illegal - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:00:09] <exec> 08└─I suspect you are thinking too small. This plan has to originate higher up than Microsoft. After all, software running before boot time was never a common avenue of attack. However, if you wanted to make sure a secure system was never installed, this would be the way to do it. Who would have an inte...
[04:00:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03goody [2135] (Score:2) 02I Say Let Them Do It - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:00:10] <exec> 08└─I say let them do it. If the major hardware manufacturers are dumb enough to offer only Windows 10 capable hardware, that will make open hardware even more attractive and offer opportunities for new startups to offer it. Perhaps we'll see a Raspberry Pi-like movement arise, offering open desktop and...
[04:00:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I Say Let Them Do It - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 972 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:00:12] <exec> 08└─Agreed, having people associate them with crippled hardware would be great for allowing the market to open up. Also just getting them off the playing field is desirable because they keep affecting everything disproportionately while having poor user interface design. The web hopefully will put enoug...
[04:00:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:Double Entendre - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:00:31] <exec> 08└─A black swan event.
[04:00:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What could possibly go wrong? - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:00:36] <exec> 08└─No, gravity is unfair to short people who can't reach high objects as easily. It also gives them a disadvantage in basketball.
[04:00:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03vux984 [5045] 02Re:SJW heaven - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 1762 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:00:40] <exec> 08└─On the other hand... maybe we can fix Anita Sarkeesian! The question is, as always, "Who gets to define normal?" What about religion? Can we convert people to Islam? Can we convert them to Christianity? Could we classify religious belief as a mental disorder and cure us all to atheists? How long bef...
[04:00:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:SJW heaven - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:00:43] <exec> 08└─Try to be understood or you wont be.
[04:00:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:SJW heaven - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:00:45] <exec> 08└─> If you do not explain yourself, all that you post are words strung together. Is it really so difficult to understand that I am saying "you are wrong?" OP didn't explain himself either, he just said it as a given. The fact you are bitchin suggests you agree with his unexplained words and disagree w...
[04:00:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:SJW heaven - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:00:47] <exec> 08└─The question is, as always, "Who gets to define normal?"
[04:00:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Murdoc [2518] (Score:1) 02Re:Well this is horrifying - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 640 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:00:53] <exec> 08└─I suppose that my comment was too short for me to be clear on what I meant, but in actuality I totally agree with you, that both approaches are needed to be integrated for best effect. Well, not the brainwashing mentioned in the article, but yes, the "practice" as you mentioned. Everyone already kno...
[04:01:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Zero sympathy. - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:01:24] <exec> 08└─Think about this: the way society is changing its views on drug use, what he did will be legal decades before his life sentence is up.
[04:01:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Doh! - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:01:30] <exec> 08└─> There's a particularly brutal way to interpret the social contract theory Except our legal system is not based on that interpretation. It is based on the concept of proportionality.
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[05:00:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Alternate headlines will follow... - 06Chinese Weaponry Spotted on Artificial Islands - 440 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:00:04] <exec> 08└─I can imagine all of the 'China builds an island, then INVADES it to use as base!' type headlines coming soon for this. On a side note: This news, and related, recent news is starting to head in the direction presented in an old DOS/Win95 game I used to play: "Tom Clancy's SSN". You commanded a Los...
[05:00:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02US installs puppet dictators...................... - 06Chinese Weaponry Spotted on Artificial Islands - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:00:06] <exec> 08└─Then INVADES to topple their regimes! Makin' the World safe for Freedom. FUCK YEAH!
[05:00:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't that nice! - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:00:18] <exec> 08└─Microsoft will not pay them, they will threaten to charge them *a lot more* for Windows installs than other companies that play nice and lock out those nasty competing operating systems.
[05:00:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02Re:Potentially Illegal - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 380 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:00:25] <exec> 08└─I suspect you are thinking too small. This plan has to originate higher up than Microsoft. After all, software running before boot time was never a common avenue of attack. However, if you wanted to make sure a secure system was never installed, this would be the way to do it. Who would have an inte...
[05:00:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:I Say Let Them Do It - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:00:28] <exec> 08└─Perhaps we'll see a Raspberry Pi-like movement arise, offering open desktop and server grade boards.
[05:00:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02fantastic! - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:00:30] <exec> 08└─this seems like something that could cause more people to work on the the coreboot project [coreboot.org] and work on porting to the most recent hardware hardware.
[05:00:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02So prebuilt OEM computers... - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:00:32] <exec> 08└─...on which Linux could never run anyway because of cryptic hardware will now prevent incompatible OS from running, sounds good.
[05:00:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ryuugami [2925] (Score:2) 02What could go wrong? - 06NASA's JPL Joins DARPA on "Memex" Deep Web Search - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:00:41] <exec> 08└─We're augmenting Web crawlers to behave like browsers -- in other words, executing scripts and reading ads in ways that you would when you usually go online.
[05:01:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03CortoMaltese [5244] 02Re:On the Internet... So it is different. Somehow. - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 85 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:01:55] <exec> 08└─He was caught because of bad OpSec, not because of an inherent flaw in Tor or Bitcoin
[05:07:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02Re:Total Tomfoolery Trips Team - 06META: Editorial Transparency - What do you want? - 97 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:07:27] <exec> 08└─Adding the line break and text with a link seems to draw excessive attention to this minor issue.
[05:08:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:Degrees of Stupidity - 06Pakistan's Largest Software Exporter CEO Arrested for Allegedly Selling Fake Degrees - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:08:19] <exec> 08└─If they are anything like private-sector companies, they're keeping a position "open" just to gather resumes.
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[05:59:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't that nice! - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:59:59] <exec> 08└─More than likely they will have to pay the OEMs more to lock down boot. Google will very happy to push all the Chromium OSes for a lot less. Then there are other interesting players out there. I'd been looking at taking a 1/4G $ Samsung Chromebook and booting in Cyanogen. But now it seems I may soon...
[06:00:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:Potentially Illegal - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:00:07] <exec> 08└─The fact is the safest way to boot any machine is to compile from source and then sign with your own key. Of course, getting a safe compiler.... This soft of anti-competition measure is to be expected and why Microsoft cannot be trusted for ANYTHING...not that I did before. Let's not start about Ora...
[06:00:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:SJW heaven - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:00:52] <exec> 08└─quite literally, statistics determine what is normal.
[06:00:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:SJW heaven - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:00:53] <exec> 08└─If a truly predatory peadophile could be treated such that those impulses or desires were eliminated... maybe that at least is not truly evil.
[06:00:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:SJW heaven - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:00:54] <exec> 08└─However re-programming -may- be more humane than the death sentence
[06:01:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Well this is horrifying - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:01:04] <exec> 08└─I agree that we may be looking at a bunch of very scared racists who thing they may be forced or tricked in to not being racist anymore, but our common point is that that really can't happen. I always have liked the line by the teacher at the beginning of the Joss Whedon movie "Serenity": "We're not...
[06:01:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Caution - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:01:09] <exec> 08└─Those do seem like the types of conclusions social 'scientists' would reach, being that it is mostly subjective and pseudoscientific. Mainly, I'm referring to studies that the one described here. [soylentnews.org] It's worth it to investigate other possibilities and not pretend as if the possibility...
[06:03:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Concerns over that the state can't fuck citizen - 06U.N. Special Rapporteur: Encryption Necessary for Human Rights - 1124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:03:21] <exec> 08└─'Restrictions on encryption and anonymity, as enablers of the right to freedom of expression, must meet the well-known three-part test: any limitation on expression must be provided for by law; may only be imposed for legitimate grounds (as set out in article 19 (3) of the Covenant); and must confor...
[06:04:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Rhino Farms? - 06The Quest to Synthesize Rhino Horn - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:04:41] <exec> 08└─Sure, it would be expensive as all hell
[06:06:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sometimes good - 06How Racial Stereotypes Impact the Way We Communicate - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:06:17] <exec> 08└─Thats kinda sad. There is a russian family in my neighborhood and despite being very nice people, they obviously have fewer good friends. I live in a very international neighborhood full of immigrants and expats alike. I think the 'russians are scary' stereotype pushes them in to a very lonely exist...
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[06:59:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Obligatory - 06Media World Fooled with Bogus Chocolate Diet Story - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:59:47] <exec> 08└─From the article: With our 18 measurements, we had a 60% chance of getting some“significant” result with p < 0.05. (The measurements weren’t independent, so it could be even higher.) The game was stacked in our favor.
[06:59:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:just passing through - 06Chinese Weaponry Spotted on Artificial Islands - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:57] <exec> 08└─They're just set pieces for Survivor: New China Islands.
[07:00:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geotti [1146] (Score:2) 02Evidence - 06Chinese Weaponry Spotted on Artificial Islands - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:00:02] <exec> 08└─So, could someone please draw a circle around the weapons in the marketwatch pic? 'cause, you know, after last year's "satellite imagery" of Russian rocket launchers/tanks/whatever in the Ukraine, I wouldn't be surprised if this pic (or are there pics?) follows a similar scheme.
[07:00:17] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02Re:secure boot itself is fine - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 394 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:00:18] <exec> 08└─I refer you to the prior time we covered this issue. (link above). The problem is that there currently is only one key signer, although nothing prevents more, nobody else has stepped up. Microsoft will sign your key, maybe. They've signed shim keys for some of the big distros, but probably not for s...
[07:00:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So prebuilt OEM computers... - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 595 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:00:28] <exec> 08└─As an independent IT guy for a bunch of small businesses, this will really suck. I rely on live distros to troubleshoot all those crappy Dell boxes when things go wrong (often) and I use Clonezilla to take system images at various stages (original factory image, new deployment, backup before patch T...
[07:01:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03TGV [2838] (Score:2) 02Don't get your hopes up - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:01:22] <exec> 08└─I'll repeat what I wrote elsewhere: If the effect (which is, as the author even admits, surprising) will hold, it changes "implicit bias", i.e. what the implicit bias test measures. That is much less surprising, since that test measures priming effects, i.e. how much does condition A speed up recogn...
[07:05:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geotti [1146] (Score:2) 02Re:zafgagfa - 06Text String Can Cause iOS to Crash - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:07] <exec> 08└─However, a respring is not a reboot. Springboard is the desktop, so to speak, and not the OS. Still annoying, though.
[07:05:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geotti [1146] (Score:2) 02Re:iOS bug? That's no reason not to rant about ... - 06Text String Can Cause iOS to Crash - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:13] <exec> 08└─I'm willing to bet money that it never will.
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[07:59:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Evidence - 06Chinese Weaponry Spotted on Artificial Islands - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:59:58] <exec> 08└─It's right here [imgur.com], next to Saddam's Heavenly Chocolate Chips factory.
[07:59:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02Anyone taking bets? - 06Chinese Weaponry Spotted on Artificial Islands - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:59:59] <exec> 08└─China and Vietnam have a long history of smoldering conflict. Does this mean we can run a betting pool on the inevitable artillery duels between the two islands?
[08:00:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aristarchus [2645] 02Re:Its a dupe: - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 18 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:00:11] <exec> 08└─I could have sword
[08:00:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't that nice! - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 732 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:00:14] <exec> 08└─I'm sure the European Union competition regulators would love to bite deeply into a Microsoft or hardware manufacturers that attempt to lock out the competition. And manufacturers that plays along with the Microsoft agenda may be specifically targeted by people with deep coding skills and bad karma...
[08:00:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't that nice! - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:00:16] <exec> 08└─In what way is oottelas work related to motherboard bootloader lockdown? He sure writes interesting things. But that doesn't make relevant.
[08:00:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't that nice! - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:00:18] <exec> 08└─Raspberry Pi and others are really nice computing platforms. But they don't beat a 4 GHz multicore multimegabyte cache setup with terrazillions of fast I/O. So motherboard lockdown is a problem.
[08:00:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:secure boot itself is fine - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:00:22] <exec> 08└─The problem is that there currently is only one key signer, although nothing prevents more, nobody else has stepped up.
[08:00:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Right to read - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 495 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:00:33] <exec> 08└─It was also possible to bypass the copyright monitors by installing a modified system kernel. Dan would eventually find out about the free kernels, even entire free operating systems, that had existed around the turn of the century. But not only were they illegal, like debuggers—you could not inst...
[08:00:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Game over. - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:00:35] <exec> 08└─And that's the end of linux as a low cost alternative.
[08:00:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:What could go wrong? - 06NASA's JPL Joins DARPA on "Memex" Deep Web Search - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:00:45] <exec> 08└─Look at the bright side. Free CPU power for JS implementable tasks.
[08:01:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Murdoc [2518] (Score:1) 02Re:Well this is horrifying - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 500 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:01:23] <exec> 08└─I liked that line too, but in the case of Serenity, I think that the teacher was using that line as a way to cover up the sins of the Alliance. Although I loved the movie and Firefly, I didn't really like the message Joss (or at least Mal) was trying to assert that "You can't make people better." I...
[08:01:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Popcorn Sutton did just that. - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:01:57] <exec> 08└─> He committed suicide in 2009 rather than report to Federal prison after being convicted of offenses related to moonshine production. And in the previous paragraph: > Sutton, 62 and recently diagnosed with cancer, So the guy wasn't expecting to live very long either. That's a pretty important facto...
[08:02:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Doh! - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:02:03] <exec> 08└─Too bad guns don't harm people.
[08:03:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Concerns over that the state can't fuck citizen - 06U.N. Special Rapporteur: Encryption Necessary for Human Rights - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:03:47] <exec> 08└─However most people seems to subscribe to the "I have nothing to hide" without realizing the systematic consequences and human cognitive inability. So voting on this issue is probably futile and the process is also likely to be put under pressure for special interest. It's kind of killing someone ju...
[08:05:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:iOS bug? That's no reason not to rant about ... - 06Text String Can Cause iOS to Crash - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:05:24] <exec> 08└─> Systemd does not manage font rendering. A great counter argument to my "systemd absolutely does font rendering" argument, which I now fully retract. ... Oh, wait, I didn't actually say that at all.
[08:09:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Abused statistics - 06The Tricky Road Ahead for Android Gets Even Trickier - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:23] <exec> 08└─He wasn't talking about growth, just profit.
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[09:00:38] <exec> 08└─The declining ability of hardware platforms might hurt alternative OS business while the transition from crippled to free motherboards happens. Time is a factor. And making a modern motherboard is a really though challenge that will bar most users for simply being to complex and expensive.
[09:00:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Future competition for Google? - 06NASA's JPL Joins DARPA on "Memex" Deep Web Search - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:00:55] <exec> 08└─I smell Google competition. Or perhaps not?
[09:01:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:What could possibly go wrong? - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:01:15] <exec> 08└─My favourite racist programming story is that of a fairly normal English guy who had a pit bull terrier. It once barked at a black pedestrian, so the owner hit it. It did it again, and got hit again. It eventually ended up associating black people with getting hit. Which made it not like black peopl...
[09:01:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:SJW heaven - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:01:26] <exec> 08└─It is also not normal statistically.
[09:01:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:SJW heaven - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:01:28] <exec> 08└─It is [truly evil] if you do it against their will
[09:01:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:SJW heaven - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:01:31] <exec> 08└─Would you program yourself? Could I give myself the ability to have better focus and learn more easily? If it was an option I totally would, I'd also make myself more inclined to go for a run to keep fit, make myself more disciplined and tidier. etc.
[09:01:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Well this is horrifying - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 1319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:01:42] <exec> 08└─"Maybe on another world, maybe on this very ground swept clean. A year from now, ten? They'll swing back to the belief that they can make people... better. And I do not hold to that. So no more runnin'. I aim to misbehave. " Capt. Malcolm Reynolds. Now that may be the great outlaw libertarian mantra...
[09:01:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Techwolf [87] 02Drug War - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 200 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:01:57] <exec> 08└─'''' parents of the victims of drug overdoses '''' You can thank the drug war for that. Due to no QA control, they though they was getting high with a normal dose and ended up with a much higher dose.
[09:02:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Drug War - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 1981 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:02:05] <exec> 08└─Your character attack is baseless and ineffective. I've not stated that Dread Pirate Roberts is without fault completely. Nor did I state, he shouldn't have any prison time. It's not a question of no fault, it's the proper sharing of fault. All I have done, is to agree with Dread Pirate Robert's ple...
[09:04:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:"Special rapporteur" - 06U.N. Special Rapporteur: Encryption Necessary for Human Rights - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:04:02] <exec> 08└─のは、今からフランス語でtangomargarine問い合わせてみましょう。 For great justice!
[09:04:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You can't buy your way out of superstition - 06The Quest to Synthesize Rhino Horn - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:04:59] <exec> 08└─So what if they don't think it is supernatural? It has no basis in reality, so by definition it is a supernatural belief even if they don't think so.
[09:07:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Who do I need to look like? - 06How Racial Stereotypes Impact the Way We Communicate - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:07:15] <exec> 08└─Not one dick seen in Ireland. They were without exception friendly, open, and helpful. Even in the big impersonal cities like Dublin. However, the west coast is something else - absolutely the warmest folk I've ever encountered. I won't repeat any stories about my times in France, as they would be f...
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[09:59:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score:2) 02H.L. Mencken Nailed It - 06Media World Fooled with Bogus Chocolate Diet Story - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:59:55] <exec> 08└─"No one in this world, so far as I know—and I have researched the records for years, and employed agents to help me—has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people."
[09:59:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:H.L. Mencken Nailed It - 06Media World Fooled with Bogus Chocolate Diet Story - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:59:56] <exec> 08└─But not all people live in the plain. What about the hill people?
[10:00:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score:2) 02Re:US installs puppet dictators................... - 06Chinese Weaponry Spotted on Artificial Islands - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:00:10] <exec> 08└─Fast attack boats like the SSN-688 Los Angeles class are not "boomers". Fleet ballistic missile boats FBM's) like theOhio, Lafayette, and Ethan Allen classes are/were boomers. No citation needed. I used to help build and repair the motherfuckers.
[10:00:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:secure boot itself is fine - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 728 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:00:35] <exec> 08└─Yes, it does make a practical difference. It is a pain in the arse to sign all your boot code. Maybe you could install someone else's key that most distros then use, but if it widely available to be used for signing it won't make good security, and at that point you might as well turn it off. Yes se...
[10:00:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:So prebuilt OEM computers... - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 595 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:00:46] <exec> 08└─As an independent IT guy for a bunch of small businesses, this will really suck. I rely on live distros to troubleshoot all those crappy Dell boxes when things go wrong (often) and I use Clonezilla to take system images at various stages (original factory image, new deployment, backup before patch T...
[10:00:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So prebuilt OEM computers... - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:00:47] <exec> 08└─Hairyfeet! Is that you, in your true form? I hear you, Bro! Micro$oft sucks big time! So glad you finally came out. We fight the good fight, until the beast is dead!
[10:01:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:isn't this the place - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:01:23] <exec> 08└─I don't know. I saw the documentary (A Clockwork Orange), and really enjoyed it, so I'm really looking forward to this being rolled out.
[10:01:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:SJW heaven - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 1258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:01:35] <exec> 08└─I was just about to thank you for being brave enough to state the politically incorrect view that maybe it's not true that paedophiles are the worst evil satan has ever created, as they are possibly the most demonised group of people who don't fit in with our modern societal norms. Then I realised y...
[10:01:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:SJW heaven - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:01:36] <exec> 08└─And just for reference - I was actually biassed against her before reading/watching any of her stuff simply because of the name of the website. (Which makes me shallow, I know.)
[10:01:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:SJW heaven - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:01:38] <exec> 08└─Relative to life imprisonment or the death penalty?
[10:01:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:SJW heaven - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 508 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:01:40] <exec> 08└─There was a case a couple of decades ago in the UK of a guilt-wracked paedophile who *asked* the court to chemically castrate him, as after medical consultations and investigating the literature, he was sure it would abate his urges, which he knew were wrong. The court refused, and threw him in clin...
[10:01:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Caution - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:01:57] <exec> 08└─Those do seem like the types of conclusions social 'scientists' would reach, being that it is mostly subjective and pseudoscientific.
[10:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Caution - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:01:58] <exec> 08└─Or, stated just slightly differently
[10:02:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Societal harm hogwash - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:02:43] <exec> 08└─Didn't he (try to) put out a hit on someone, surely that deserves serious punishment? Or am I mistaken on that?
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[10:59:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not Happy! - 06Older, Better Educated Women Are Having More Children - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:59:55] <exec> 08└─OMG! MikeeUSA will not be happy about this, at all! Adult women, having babies? Of their own volition? And most likely without a man's permission! I can just feel his scrotes shrinking into a tiny ball. You know, the Bible says, stone the pedofiles, for they are nasty by anyone's standards.
[11:00:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Welcome to the internet, people! - 06Stolen Uber Accounts for Sale on Darknet - 484 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:00:03] <exec> 08└─Your stuff's gonna get stolen and sold. Some will do it right in front of you (google analytics, anyone?) while others will do it in scary ways ("ooooh, darknet!") The best part? Nobody seems to care much, and the laws don't even really penalize the offenders. Oh sure, you might get a month's worth...
[11:00:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score:2) 02Re:H.L. Mencken Nailed It - 06Media World Fooled with Bogus Chocolate Diet Story - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:00:13] <exec> 08└─But not all hill people live in the astral plane. What about Timothy Leary?
[11:00:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Too bad, they don't care - 06Media World Fooled with Bogus Chocolate Diet Story - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:00:14] <exec> 08└─Media outlets don't care. Reporters don't care. "Health reporting" has been shown to be a bullshit fest for years now, no better than entertainment news and potentially more harmful, and nothing's changed.
[11:00:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Evidence - 06Chinese Weaponry Spotted on Artificial Islands - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:00:31] <exec> 08└─Shite! I remember the satellite pictures of the missiles in Cuba, and the ones in Vietnam, and the ones in Iraq, and the ones in Iran!!! Should I be scared shitless yet, and crawl into my racist bunker and keep voting Republican?
[11:00:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Anyone taking bets? - 06Chinese Weaponry Spotted on Artificial Islands - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:00:33] <exec> 08└─You might think that a long-standing conflict like that would be the topic of debate, but... For some reason when Chinese or Russian military affairs are mentioned anywhere in the (U.S.) media, the articles always question whether we're prepared for the apparently eminent attacks. I don't get it.
[11:00:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02duck-and-cover - 06Chinese Weaponry Spotted on Artificial Islands - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:00:35] <exec> 08└─must have lots and lots of cover when the tomahawks fly in. really? land-based artillery on a flat sand-island? srsly tho i think whoever wants to use a uninhabited island can with simple rule: no weapons allowed on land. something-something UNO?
[11:01:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Game over. - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:01:13] <exec> 08└─How does that work if the relevant distros already support SecureBoot?
[11:01:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:SJW heaven - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:01:57] <exec> 08└─Yes, but you're using a different definition of the word "normal" than the one that is actually under discussion, making your reply off-topic.
[11:02:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Caution - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:02:25] <exec> 08└─Ah, once again we have Tom Cruise posting on SoylentNews! Such a great honor, and much craziness!
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[11:59:50] <exec> 08└─before having the children. Praise be, the Infidels shall be infertile! Jihad not even needful to rid world of them! Allah Akbar!!
[11:59:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ladies please wait please until 60 yrs old, - 06Older, Better Educated Women Are Having More Children - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:59:51] <exec> 08└─Hahaha, infidels have science & technology. Suck it Allah.
[12:00:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Too bad, they don't care - 06Media World Fooled with Bogus Chocolate Diet Story - 440 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:00:11] <exec> 08└─Daily newspapers have been closing and/or trimming their staffs for the past 15 years in response to the instant availability of free news on the web. The problem is, what is the ultimate source of that news? In some cases it's not as dependable now as it was back then, when we had more professional...
[12:00:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Too bad, they don't care - 06Media World Fooled with Bogus Chocolate Diet Story - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:00:12] <exec> 08└─But this one goes deeper than mainstream news outlet. The so-called science itself, "nutritional science," is crap.
[12:00:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Bohannon is a jerk - 06Media World Fooled with Bogus Chocolate Diet Story - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:00:14] <exec> 08└─Thousands of people around the world probably changed their diets and purchasing habits in varying amounts so he could pull off his little joke. And he didn't let them in on it right away, so now quite a few people now have a new habit that is costing them money, extra weight, and dental hygiene. So...
[12:00:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bohannon is a jerk - 06Media World Fooled with Bogus Chocolate Diet Story - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:00:15] <exec> 08└─The guy performed a valuable service to those people by showing that "nutritional science" quacks are screwing them over.
[12:00:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Its a dupe: - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:00:47] <exec> 08└─Sword of Typocles hangs above all our keyboards.
[12:00:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:secure boot itself is fine - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:00:59] <exec> 08└─It is a pain in the arse to sign all your boot code.
[12:01:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What could possibly go wrong? - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:01:47] <exec> 08└─How fucking stupid. Since when is "has a solution" part of the definition of "problem"?
[12:03:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Doh! - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:03:04] <exec> 08└─Oh, of course! Guns don't cause any harm at all! Guns should be given away for free to anyone who wants them! They should be sold as childrens' toys since they're the most harmless thing in the world. Those pesky bullets fired from them, on the other hand, those do all the harm, so instead of gun ma...
[12:03:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Doh! - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:03:06] <exec> 08└─And the ODs? No harm no foul?
[12:04:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:pooo - 06Chipmaker Avago Buys Broadcom for $37B - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:04:07] <exec> 08└─Man, this comment opened up a whole can of ... well, it's a big hole.
[12:06:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Re:Except... - 06The Quest to Synthesize Rhino Horn - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:06:00] <exec> 08└─What I am proposing is to destroy or permanently relocate from their previous owners the removed noses and penises.
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[12:59:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Irrational, Arbitrary Puritan Nonsense - 06Twitch Bans Streaming of "Adults Only" Rated Games - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:59:42] <exec> 08└─Just the sort of irrational and arbitrary puritan nonsense I'd expect from a company. If you're relying on websites like Twitch, you're a fool.
[12:59:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02HATRED! - 06Twitch Bans Streaming of "Adults Only" Rated Games - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:59:43] <exec> 08└─Is this free publicity for Hatred (to be released on monday I do believe)? The amount of people that play these old "sex-games" and Manhunter 2 (not a sex game even tho the title could be interpreted as such) and streaming them on Twitch should be staggeringly small. http://store.steampowered.com
[12:59:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:2) 02Index Librorum Prohibitorum - 06Twitch Bans Streaming of "Adults Only" Rated Games - 813 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:59:45] <exec> 08└─I'm reminded how including a work on the Index Librorum Prohibitorum [wikipedia.org], resulted in many people scouring the list of banned books to look for 'interesting' works to read. In other words, it piqued people's curiosity and had an effect opposite to that which was intended. Anecdote: In my...
[12:59:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Bumpin' intelligent uglies... - 06Older, Better Educated Women Are Having More Children - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:59:56] <exec> 08└─Well-educated women have been able to form strong relationships with similarly brainy men, in which both parents earn and both do some child care.
[13:00:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Welcome to the internet, people! - 06Stolen Uber Accounts for Sale on Darknet - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:05] <exec> 08└─What a degrading and dehumanizing experiment this whole thing turned out to be.
[13:00:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Too bad, they don't care - 06Media World Fooled with Bogus Chocolate Diet Story - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:18] <exec> 08└─Lots of sciences start out as bullshit. When chemistry first started, it was called "alchemy", and when astronomy started it was called "astrology".
[13:00:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Too bad, they don't care - 06Media World Fooled with Bogus Chocolate Diet Story - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:20] <exec> 08└─Doesn't change the fact that they were/are crap.
[13:00:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Such racism and stereotyping.... wow! - 06Chinese Weaponry Spotted on Artificial Islands - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:00:43] <exec> 08└─Chinese Weaponry Spotted on Artificial Islands, but their 'weapons' are really small, so they are begging the Africans to come over with THEIR 'weapons' to help make their presence seem more viable.
[13:00:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Run the algorithm America - 06Chinese Weaponry Spotted on Artificial Islands - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:00:44] <exec> 08└─Well America if you don't know what to do, run it through the algorithm: 1. Is there oil there? If yes - BOMB THEM If no - go to 1.
[13:00:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't that nice! - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:00] <exec> 08└─I forgot about Chrome. I think you're correct in that helping to mitigate their abuse.
[13:02:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Well this is horrifying - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:30] <exec> 08└─and we together will face the onslaught of racists who think that just having different thoughts means that all thought is equally valid!
[13:02:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Well this is horrifying - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:31] <exec> 08└─who wouldn't want to learn it when it can help you in every aspect of your life?
[13:02:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Caution - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:02:41] <exec> 08└─Psychology and its ilk are not as scientific as some people think.
[13:03:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Re:Zero sympathy. - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 680 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:03:12] <exec> 08└─I seriously doubt what he did and helped to sell is all going to be legal before his death. Even if it will he got sentenced because he broke the current law. If they change the law afterwards his sentence wouldn't get automatically commuted. I could be wrong but I'm fairly sure places like Colorado...
[13:06:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:You can't buy your way out of superstition - 06The Quest to Synthesize Rhino Horn - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:06:04] <exec> 08└─Where exactly is the line between superstition and just believing in something because you can't really prove it
[13:06:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Rhino Farms? - 06The Quest to Synthesize Rhino Horn - 1463 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:06:31] <exec> 08└─South African here. (We have something like IIRC 95% of the rhino in Africa.) We already do that. In fact we have many, many tonnes of rhino horn in storage (some cut off when the rhino died, some confiscated from poachers and some from times and places where they were pre-emptively cut off to disco...
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[13:59:41] <exec> 08└─You absolutely build this kind of thing even if it's not considered 'useful' because anyone thinking we won't need to communicate with worker robots on mars like we do RIGHT NOW is dreaming. Robotic expansion will increase exponentially and it relies heavily on data because if something goes wrong t...
[13:59:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Re:Index Librorum Prohibitorum - 06Twitch Bans Streaming of "Adults Only" Rated Games - 891 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:59:52] <exec> 08└─Could be interesting, so interesting I looked a few of them up -- for research of cause. A lot of these "sex games" on the list seem to be nothing more the slideshows and where made or released in the late 90's. They will probably be hard to get hold of these days. There are a few newer Manga-type g...
[13:59:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Index Librorum Prohibitorum - 06Twitch Bans Streaming of "Adults Only" Rated Games - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:59:53] <exec> 08└─If I was less lazy I might have made links to the games and "games". Oh well -- takyon
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[13:59:55] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_Bruno [wikipedia.org]
[13:59:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Streisand Effect....with pics! - 06Twitch Bans Streaming of "Adults Only" Rated Games - 568 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:59:56] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I remember when the UK and Australia both had the 'list of blocked sites' published online, it provided many with new porn sites to investigate. We were really just interested in making sure the sites in question deserved to be on the list...honest! The 'Legislating Morality' tactic has been a...
[13:59:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Jack Thomson won apparently - 06Twitch Bans Streaming of "Adults Only" Rated Games - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:59:58] <exec> 08└─They did this to ban Hatred but it's really about banning games that the San Fran hipsters that run the company don't like. Huniepop came before this and is censored by default but both have received a lot of flack from the cesspool that is games journalism. Anyone who has seen gameplay of Hatred wi...
[14:00:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03FlyingSock [4339] (Score:1) 02Common Sense... - 06Media World Fooled with Bogus Chocolate Diet Story - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:00:34] <exec> 08└─Common sense, so rare it's a god damn superpower...
[14:01:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't that nice! - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:01:15] <exec> 08└─ExxxxxACTLY! Remember how MS built the beginnings of it's monopoly? With a simple threat. "You build ONLY MS OS computers, or you will build NONE AT ALL!" Which of the mega-manufacturers is going to risk being cut off completely? Just maybe the government will find itself capable of doing something...
[14:01:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03hash14 [1102] (Score:2) 02Re:secure boot itself is fine - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 1514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:01:23] <exec> 08└─As I wrote in the summary last time, which NCommander then proceeded to edit/remove: This basically kills Gentoo as a distribution because (to the best of my knowledge) there is no stock kernel. Every Gentoo user compiles his/her own, so how is that supposed to work in a thou-shalt-not-choose-thy-OS...
[14:01:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03hash14 [1102] (Score:2) 02Re:secure boot itself is fine - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:01:26] <exec> 08└─As long as I can still load my own keys and sign my own start up binaries.
[14:01:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03hash14 [1102] (Score:2) 02Re:Let them - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 1239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:01:29] <exec> 08└─One simple word: vertical integration. (That's one word, right?) I think it's bonkers that a software company[1] should be allowed to control the hardware on which it is allowed to run without running afoul of anti-trust law. It is clearly obvious that Microsoft is using its dominant position in the...
[14:01:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So prebuilt OEM computers... - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:01:40] <exec> 08└─His true form is a pair of giant sweaty overgrown manly legs. That's my headcannon and I'm stickin' to it!
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[14:59:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02posted from space - 06Interplanetary Internet about as Useful as Flying Pigs says Vint Cerf - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:59:49] <exec> 08└─Too lazy to submit this. http://www.nasa.gov [nasa.gov] https://mobile.twitter.com [twitter.com] I assume Vint Cerf did not actually mention pigs right? -- takyon
[14:59:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:3, Funny) 02I agree - 06Interplanetary Internet about as Useful as Flying Pigs says Vint Cerf - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:59:50] <exec> 08└─If we teach the pigs to fly now, they'll be better accommodated for life on other planets when we start colonizing them.
[14:59:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:3, Insightful) 02flying pigs could be very useful - 06Interplanetary Internet about as Useful as Flying Pigs says Vint Cerf - 946 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:59:52] <exec> 08└─Just think of the possibilities. Pigs are among the smartest animals in the world. Trained flying pigs could augment drones. They'd have many war uses. Could even have kamikaze suicide dive bombing pigs. Imagine the deadly insult to Islam to send a pig of all animals to dive bomb Mecca. They'd make...
[14:59:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:flying pigs could be very useful - 06Interplanetary Internet about as Useful as Flying Pigs says Vint Cerf - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:59:53] <exec> 08└─Flying pigs would be an enormously effective terror weapon in the middle east.
[15:00:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Index Librorum Prohibitorum - 06Twitch Bans Streaming of "Adults Only" Rated Games - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:00:06] <exec> 08└─And what does this have to do with anything?
[15:00:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bohannon is a jerk - 06Media World Fooled with Bogus Chocolate Diet Story - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:00:45] <exec> 08└─Yet, so many supposedly intelligent Silicon Valley tech types are apparently flocking to those protein drinks. Hmmm. Maybe our snide derision for the "common folk" is perhaps a bit misplaced?
[15:01:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Run the algorithm America - 06Chinese Weaponry Spotted on Artificial Islands - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:01:09] <exec> 08└─DING DING DING! You are the winner!!! You get the "How can I take this off-topic article and somehow turn it into a shit on the US comment award!!!" Congratulations. We are all in awe of your deep insight and political analysis skills.
[15:01:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't that nice! - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:01:30] <exec> 08└─Only meant as an example of interesting things going on out there which are as far away from Microsoft (and thus also their bootloader lockdowns) as possible.
[15:01:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Potentially Illegal - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:01:45] <exec> 08└─You know that you're paranoid, right/ Of course, the fact that you are paranoid doesn't mean that they aren't out to get you! Let's say that I can't agree or disagree with you, but that idea is definitely food for thought. An agency that presumes to capture, catalog, and archive all the metadada on...
[15:03:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Poor bastard - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:03:39] <exec> 08└─He should have tried. They might have shot him. Maybe if an Angel helped him he could have gouged their eyes with his thumbs. He'd be dead. An enemy of his might be blinded for life, or not.
[15:03:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Popcorn Sutton did just that. - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:03:44] <exec> 08└─> He committed suicide in 2009 rather than report to Federal prison after being convicted of offenses related to moonshine production. Disgusting how this CUNTtry has so much control over we, the male peons. I hope it is destroyed completely. He should have killed alot of feds etc. That would be the...
[15:03:49] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03dyingtolive [952] 02Re:Doh! - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 257 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:03:50] <exec> 08└─Totally right. We should punish him the same manner as anyone who sells products known to be potentially harmful to humans if they take too much of them. Quick, someone look up what we did to the heads of the tobacco, alcohol, and fast food/soda industries.
[15:04:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hank the Lion [1775] (Score:1) 02Re:Societal harm hogwash - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:04:03] <exec> 08└─Then why didn't they punish him for that?
[15:09:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:Shortened link to original submission - 06META: Editorial Transparency - What do you want? - 1196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:23] <exec> 08└─Understood, and I'm sure that it's appreciated by many of the site readership. Having given it a little more thought, I think a good compromise would be the following: Automated inclusion of original submission. Not really fussed where, but it doesn't need to be in your face. Basic spelling/gramma...
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[15:59:54] <exec> 08└─Imagine the consequences for statues…
[15:59:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03bziman [3577] (Score:2) 02Request for the editors... - 06Interplanetary Internet about as Useful as Flying Pigs says Vint Cerf - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:59:55] <exec> 08└─Boffins (Scientists) that...
[16:00:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Index Librorum Prohibitorum - 06Twitch Bans Streaming of "Adults Only" Rated Games - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:00:07] <exec> 08└─The ESBR ratings over all are bullshit. Reading the reasons why they are on the list makes this somewhat clear. Games can get on the list for such minor infractions as having someone smoke, having a drink or saying the word FUCK or even possibly hinting at the possibility that there is naughty-nudy-...
[16:00:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jiro [3176] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Explanation - 06Older, Better Educated Women Are Having More Children - 738 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:00:24] <exec> 08└─On another site I saw a really good explanation of this: It's an early adopter effect. If you encourage women to go into higher education, the population you will get doing so will be bigger, but also less dedicated than the early adopters who didn't need any encouragement. Women who don't want fami...
[16:00:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03buswolley [848] (Score:2) 02Re:Too bad, they don't care - 06Media World Fooled with Bogus Chocolate Diet Story - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:00:49] <exec> 08└─They published in fake 'scam' journals. This wasn't reviewed at all. To call these fake scam journals scientific journals is a cheap shot that just isn't true. I get offers from these journals in my spam folder all day long.
[16:01:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't that nice! - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 438 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:01:39] <exec> 08└─Microsoft isn't exactly a king of (or arguably even a noticeable competitor in) either the “serious server” market nor high end computing nor massively parallel computing, if they attempt a lockdown of such boards they'll be laughed at and ignored. Any lockdown would almost exclusively hit the c...
[16:02:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:What could possibly go wrong? - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:36] <exec> 08└─Since we've had so many solutions in search of a problem.
[16:02:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:What could possibly go wrong? - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:38] <exec> 08└─Make 'em wear an electric collar and you can achieve the desired results in a fraction of the time!
[16:02:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:SJW heaven - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:52] <exec> 08└─quite literally, statistics determine what is normal.
[16:03:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Marketing assholes - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:04] <exec> 08└─It's a pretty big driver. Don't they send a lot of people to P&G afterwards?
[16:04:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You will make a full confession. - 06Scientists Figure Out How to Retrieve "Lost" Memories - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:04:28] <exec> 08└─This doesn't say anything about putting in false memories.
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[16:59:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02close your eyes when you eat! - 06Dairy Lobbyist Crafted Idaho's "Ag-Gag" Legislation - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:59:42] <exec> 08└─"The workers who were filmed were fired." They should have ground them up and fed them to the cows. after all no whistle-blowing and filming allowed : ) so no problem.
[16:59:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Movin' on up - 06Dairy Lobbyist Crafted Idaho's "Ag-Gag" Legislation - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:59:43] <exec> 08└─It seems like owning your own government officials is the sign that you've really "made it" these days.
[16:59:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Movin' on up - 06Dairy Lobbyist Crafted Idaho's "Ag-Gag" Legislation - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:59:45] <exec> 08└─I doubt it's ever really been all too different, they're just more shameless about it today (or less competent when it comes to hiding it).
[16:59:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:3, Funny) 02Ag-gag? - 06Dairy Lobbyist Crafted Idaho's "Ag-Gag" Legislation - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:59:46] <exec> 08└─Dairy Lobbyist Crafted Idaho's "Ag-Gag" Legislation
[16:59:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03tynin [2013] (Score:2) 02As much as I love steak... - 06Dairy Lobbyist Crafted Idaho's "Ag-Gag" Legislation - 448 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:59:48] <exec> 08└─I hope this doesn't slow down those that would shine a light on what goes on in some of these less than sanitary meat harvest factories. Without some manor of oversight their is no reason for companies not to take the cheapest path and cut corners, be that with sanitation, quality of food, and gener...
[16:59:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:He's wrong - 06Interplanetary Internet about as Useful as Flying Pigs says Vint Cerf - 351 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:59:56] <exec> 08└─If you don't know what or for whom you are building it for, how it would be used, under what limitations, etc., basically building to open-ended requirements, you're wasting your time. You're locking the future into today's technology, so in decades time when it becomes something that is really need...
[17:00:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Beige [3989] (Score:1) 02Interplanetary communications still needed - 06Interplanetary Internet about as Useful as Flying Pigs says Vint Cerf - 693 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:00:03] <exec> 08└─Obviously there's a need to communicate between planets, but protocols like TCP are probably not going to be practical when the latency is 40 minutes. In this sense Cerf is of course entirely correct. The equivalent of MTUs will have to go up a lot to improve efficiency, and since this will be incom...
[17:00:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Jack Thomson won apparently - 06Twitch Bans Streaming of "Adults Only" Rated Games - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:00:20] <exec> 08└─Isn't Twitch a private company? Where's all the usual cries saying that means they can do whatever the fuck they want?
[17:00:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03btendrich [3700] (Score:1) 02Another way to say - 06Older, Better-Educated Women Are Having More Children - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:00:34] <exec> 08└─Isn't this another way to say that women who have children are more likely to have a higher level of education? Children aside, aren't women now more likely to have a higher education now than 20 years ago?
[17:00:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03tynin [2013] (Score:2) 02I disagree with the posters assessment - 06Stolen Uber Accounts for Sale on Darknet - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:00:43] <exec> 08└─I know that Uber is not the only service suffering from data breaches, but given that Uber has thus far denied any breach or compromised accounts, this is yet another example of what I see as their questionable business practices.
[17:01:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03tynin [2013] (Score:2) 02Re:Bohannon is a jerk - 06Media World Fooled with Bogus Chocolate Diet Story - 958 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:01:03] <exec> 08└─I don't think he did provide a valuable service to the people who read and believed it. Sometimes we hear things, don't have enough time to fact check everything, and make an assumption that this is true. So now these people will go on about there lives consuming more chocolate than they should. I f...
[17:01:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bohannon is a jerk - 06Media World Fooled with Bogus Chocolate Diet Story - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:01:04] <exec> 08└─Two points: 1 - Most of those people will never find out about the fake results and will continue with their "new, improved" diet. 2 - Many of those who do hear about it will go into denial because this "works for me." Consider homeopathy. Fake "science," same outcome.
[17:01:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't that nice! - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:01:53] <exec> 08└─Guess geeks will start using servers ar private workstations..
[17:01:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03vux984 [5045] 02secure boot itself is fine - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 793 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:01:55] <exec> 08└─I'm fine with secure boot being always on. As long as I can still load my own keys and sign my own start up binaries. As long as -swe have that it can (and arguably -should- ) be on. It is more secure that way. Its also unclear whether this affects the various linux (red hat, ubuntu...) deals in pla...
[17:01:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:secure boot itself is fine - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:01:59] <exec> 08└─I have no idea which post you're talking about. I very rarely edit stories unless we're in an editor drought and the hopper is empty. Even then, its not something I'm great at.
[17:02:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:What could possibly go wrong? - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:54] <exec> 08└─Family Guy......"Brian barks at Cleveland"
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[17:59:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:As much as I love steak... - 06Dairy Lobbyist Crafted Idaho's "Ag-Gag" Legislation - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:59:47] <exec> 08└─Invisible hand! The market will provide!
[17:59:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:3, Informative) 02unconstitutional law - 06Dairy Lobbyist Crafted Idaho's "Ag-Gag" Legislation - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:59:48] <exec> 08└─Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
[17:59:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:unconstitutional law - 06Dairy Lobbyist Crafted Idaho's "Ag-Gag" Legislation - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:59:50] <exec> 08└─Nah, just grind him up and feed him to the cows
[17:59:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:unconstitutional law - 06Dairy Lobbyist Crafted Idaho's "Ag-Gag" Legislation - 346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:59:52] <exec> 08└─This bill is illogical as well as unconstitutional and amoral. Effectly saying the criminals are the ones watching in horror and want to speak, not those commiting atrocious acts (sin) Jeb Bush push the first of these laws through in Florida. Clearly it's on a large agenda against food safety. Peopl...
[17:59:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:unconstitutional law - 06Dairy Lobbyist Crafted Idaho's "Ag-Gag" Legislation - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:59:53] <exec> 08└─Force him to live in a pen covered in feces? ;) There's surely someone that can take advantage of the position.. Seriously, there are many senators that would be suitable for jail.
[17:59:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02This kind of origin of the law erodes the same - 06Dairy Lobbyist Crafted Idaho's "Ag-Gag" Legislation - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:59:55] <exec> 08└─If laws are written by the highest bidder. Then the societal foundation for following them is eroded and thus void. The respect will likely be out of the equation.
[18:00:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02All humans benefit by almost everything NASA makes - 06Interplanetary Internet about as Useful as Flying Pigs says Vint Cerf - 3972 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:00:09] <exec> 08└─I've implemented a modified version of NASA's DTN (Disruption Tolerant Networking). [nasa.gov] It's great for terrestrial use. If the FCC and powers that be would have gave the public back an unregulated slice of the airwaves they got back during the switch to digital over the air TV, then we could...
[18:00:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Jack Thomson won apparently - 06Twitch Bans Streaming of "Adults Only" Rated Games - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:00:28] <exec> 08└─Cool, so a private company can also kill people legally.
[18:01:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Rain myth, how do people believe this? - 06Media World Fooled with Bogus Chocolate Diet Story - 961 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:01:11] <exec> 08└─I don't understand how anyone believed this about getting out of the rain. (No offense.) Thought experiment: It's raining. Alice and Bob are standing next to each other in their yard and are 10 feet away from the door to their house. Alice jogs to the door at 5 feet per second, having been in the ra...
[18:02:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Let them - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 1106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:13] <exec> 08└─home users are no longer excited about their offerings Two random family members asked me when is windows 10 coming out (no prompting). They want to upgrade, from .... Vista. Apparently my computer going from off to desktop in ~10 seconds makes them think their computer sucks for some reason. So I w...
[18:02:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03meisterister [949] (Score:2) 02Re:I Say Let Them Do It - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 528 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:22] <exec> 08└─Given the number of people who downgraded from Vista to XP and later upgraded from 8 to 7 (Going from Windows 8 to Windows 95 would be an upgrade as well for that matter), it wouldn't surprise me if the hardware manufacturers that force only Windows 10 would face some serious problems. Quite frankly...
[18:02:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Game over. - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:31] <exec> 08└─File a complaint with the EU regulators on competitive issues. They have punished ill doers before. Paper filing is quite cheap.
[18:02:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Can anyone clarify this? - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 465 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:33] <exec> 08└─Some issues that seems unclear is: * How many of the OEM or hardware manufacturers (designers?) will omit the option to turn "secure boot" off ? * What's the same status on custom signatures with the different manufacturers? * Can the boot chain be hacked, just like it's done on smartphones...
[18:04:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Zero sympathy. - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:17] <exec> 08└─People have been altering their consiousness since time immemorial. It shouldn't be governments business to tell us what to do with our own bodies. Furthermore, the CIA is in the business of selling drugs to fund their black projects which shows how hypocritical the governments' position is. Who wou...
[18:04:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03black6host [3827] (Score:2) 02Re:Societal harm hogwash - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:04:34] <exec> 08└─That is a separate trial, which has not concluded. You can't sentence someone for a crime that they have not been proven to have committed.
[18:05:29] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03gnuman [5013] 02Savings? You mean layoffs - 06Chipmaker Avago Buys Broadcom for $37B - 121 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:05:29] <exec> 08└─The two companies said they expected the deal to produce $750 million in savings over the first 18 months of their union.
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[18:59:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02People adapt to eachoters mental blind corners? - 06Why Do People Waste So Much Time at the Office ? - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:59:42] <exec> 08└─Perhaps somewhat provocative but.. Let the engineers do their work and keep everybody else out of the way? And bar any open office with lot's of noises and attention poking, worthless meetings, useless "information", rigid hours instead of accomplishment goals etc.
[18:59:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Bursts - 06Why Do People Waste So Much Time at the Office ? - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:59:43] <exec> 08└─I'd like to believe that the less productive activities are what make those short bursts possible and most appropriately directed.
[18:59:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:4, Funny) 02obligatory - 06Why Do People Waste So Much Time at the Office ? - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:59:44] <exec> 08└─Why Do People Waste So Much Time at the Office ?
[18:59:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:3, Informative) 02Meetings - 06Why Do People Waste So Much Time at the Office ? - 867 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:59:46] <exec> 08└─I swear nothing kills time more than meetings! WHY must we have so many? I think there are people who really believe work gets done through meetings, because that's all they do all day. But when you're a producer, not a talker, you CAN'T work until people shut up and leave you alone! Micromanagers -...
[18:59:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:As much as I love steak... - 06Dairy Lobbyist Crafted Idaho's "Ag-Gag" Legislation - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:58] <exec> 08└─"Manor of Oversight" - Is that like the Big Brother house?
[18:59:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03tynin [2013] (Score:2) 02Re:As much as I love steak... - 06Dairy Lobbyist Crafted Idaho's "Ag-Gag" Legislation - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:59] <exec> 08└─LOL, whoops. :) Tune in tonight for Manor of Oversight and see who will be nominated for evisceration.
[19:00:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:unconstitutional law - 06Dairy Lobbyist Crafted Idaho's "Ag-Gag" Legislation - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:00:04] <exec> 08└─> Clearly it's on a large agenda against food safety. If that's what you think then you don't understand corruption and will fail at fighting it. Food safety or the lack thereof isn't even on the minds of the people pushing these bills. There is only one thing they care about - profits. Any impact o...
[19:00:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Cowherd [3699] (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:unconstitutional law - 06Dairy Lobbyist Crafted Idaho's "Ag-Gag" Legislation - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:00:06] <exec> 08└─It's worse than that. They've hijacked the term "food safety" to malign people who expose the goings-on. "We are a farm that makes food - terrorists from > want to damage our food security by taking footage and showing it out of context". I wish I were exaggerating, but this is exactly what happened...
[19:00:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:unconstitutional law - 06Dairy Lobbyist Crafted Idaho's "Ag-Gag" Legislation - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:00:08] <exec> 08└─everyone who drafts or supports unconstitutional laws like this disgusting garbage should be put in prison for violating Title 18 USC § 1918. [cornell.edu] pretty obvious that anyone who drafts or supports unconstitutional laws is advocating the overthrow of our constitutional form of government.
[19:00:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03W. Smith [5283] (Score:3, Insightful) 02[ Trash [ 1st Amendment ] ] - 06Dairy Lobbyist Crafted Idaho's "Ag-Gag" Legislation - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:00:10] <exec> 08└─America, the best democracy money can buy. Banning people from recording crime because it makes the criminals look bad. The mind boggles.
[19:00:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:He's wrong - 06Interplanetary Internet about as Useful as Flying Pigs says Vint Cerf - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:00:20] <exec> 08└─Uh, am I the only one who realizes that the internet was 'useless' awhile back? It is most certainly no longer so.
[19:00:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:2) 02Boffin - 06Interplanetary Internet about as Useful as Flying Pigs says Vint Cerf - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:00:27] <exec> 08└─Disclaimer: I am an editor, but did not edit this particular story. Boffins (Scientists) that...
[19:00:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:Request for the editors... - 06Interplanetary Internet about as Useful as Flying Pigs says Vint Cerf - 1128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:00:28] <exec> 08└─We have had this discussion here before. The term 'boffin' is not intended to be a pejorative title. It dates back to WW2, if not earlier, and was used as an affectionate term for scientists in the UK. Very much like the term geek or nerd is not a pejorative today. Some wear that title with pride, a...
[19:00:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:All humans feel the weight of vested interests - 06Interplanetary Internet about as Useful as Flying Pigs says Vint Cerf - 512 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:00:31] <exec> 08└─What are the specific FCC restrictions on packet radio on the family band etc that hinders DNT? I was under the impression that packet radio is common among radio amateurs? (albeit slow at 1200 bit/s or so). Perhaps this limitation can be circumvented by laser and other less restricted means of tran...
[19:00:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Jack Thomson won apparently - 06Twitch Bans Streaming of "Adults Only" Rated Games - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:00:49] <exec> 08└─False analogy at its finest.
[19:01:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Too bad, they don't care - 06Media World Fooled with Bogus Chocolate Diet Story - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:01:28] <exec> 08└─The point is that its not unusual for a branch of science to start as crap, until enough real knowledge is harvested from that crap for it to become a real science. A crap foundation does not prevent it from maturing into something real and useful.
[19:01:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Rain myth, how do people believe this? - 06Media World Fooled with Bogus Chocolate Diet Story - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:01:34] <exec> 08└─I don't understand how anyone believed this about getting out of the rain. (No offense.)
[19:02:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:fantastic! - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 805 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:47] <exec> 08└─Except that Intel broke the ability to use core boot / port core boot to hardware using their south bridge since around 2010 (unless you are making your own system from scratch (as in solder etc., not just buying a motherboard, and turning a few screws). This and the Intel back door in newer Intel s...
[19:03:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What could possibly go wrong? - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:30] <exec> 08└─Total red herring. Something that isn't immediately useful after its creation (a "solution in search of a problem") won't necessarily always be useless, and such things still don't redefine "problem" to include the phrase "has a solution" in any form.
[19:03:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What could possibly go wrong? - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 539 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:31] <exec> 08└─They're typically called problems because we don't know the solution, and if you don't know the solution, you can't say for sure that there is one. "Does P=NP?" and similar problems would no longer be problems under such a redefinition, the only "problems" would be ones for which the solution was al...
[19:04:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:Zero sympathy. - 06Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:04:45] <exec> 08└─It shouldn't be governments business to tell us what to do with our own bodies.
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[19:59:50] <exec> 08└─Why Do People Waste So Much Time at the Office ?
[19:59:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:Meetings - 06Why Do People Waste So Much Time at the Office ? - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:59:52] <exec> 08└─Back in my working days I got to the office between 6 and 7 AM. I got more done by 9 than I did the rest of the day.
[19:59:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03tynin [2013] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Meetings - 06Why Do People Waste So Much Time at the Office ? - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:59:54] <exec> 08└─Are you lonely? Tired of working on your own? Do you hate making decisions? HOLD A MEETING! You can -- - See people - Show charts - Feel important - Point with a stick - Eat donuts - Impress your colleagues All on company time! MEETINGS The Practical Alternative To Work
[19:59:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Re:Meetings - 06Why Do People Waste So Much Time at the Office ? - 1776 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:59:56] <exec> 08└─Sorry for the self-reply, but I'm having flashbacks to a death march of all-day meetings, back to back. They were convened by a flock of "assistant vice presidents" who flew out from New York to show us the light. We even had a "meeting facilitator" who demonstrated her value by covering every wall...
[19:59:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02AC Says... - 06Why Do People Waste So Much Time at the Office ? - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:59:57] <exec> 08└─Wife with children. Yeah.
[19:59:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03tynin [2013] (Score:2) 02Because they haven't burnt out yet... - 06Why Do People Waste So Much Time at the Office ? - 695 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:59:59] <exec> 08└─I used to be someone like the article describes. Now days, I leave the office on time. I put my 8 hours in, and as long as nothing revenue generating is broken, I go home and enjoy my life. At least at the company I work now (and in the past, makes me think many are this way), they'd love for you to...
[20:00:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Unhappy Home Life? - 06Why Do People Waste So Much Time at the Office ? - 740 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:00:00] <exec> 08└─I know of at least two men who keep 'putting in the hours' to avoid their problems at home. One who was married with kids, but his relationship with his wife had become unrecoverable, but the costs and stress of divorce scared him even more. By being at work she couldn't nag him or complain about hi...
[20:00:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Management - 06Why Do People Waste So Much Time at the Office ? - 605 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:00:02] <exec> 08└─Like my bumper sticker says "Managers are like diapers, full of shit and all over your ass". After 40 years at various jobs, I've only had one manager that was worth a shit, and got work done without a bunch of useless bullshit. All the others stick their nose in your work telling you how to do your...
[20:00:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02What gets rewarded at the company - 06Why Do People Waste So Much Time at the Office ? - 338 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:00:04] <exec> 08└─In most offices, performing useful work is a sure way to get yourself labeled a peon for the rest of your career. The socializing is what leads to privileges and promotion, and thus it is no surprise that most workers focus on it. This is especially true at larger firms, where management usually has...
[20:00:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Movin' on up - 06Dairy Lobbyist Crafted Idaho's "Ag-Gag" Legislation - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:00:12] <exec> 08└─Considering that the government is openly, but secretly, negotiating the TPP with its horror story without any input from the allegedly represented unwashed masses, it's more likely they are simply emboldened by their superiors success?
[20:00:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] 02Ag-gag? - 06Dairy Lobbyist Crafted Idaho's "Ag-Gag" Legislation - 51 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:00:13] <exec> 08└─Dairy Lobbyist Crafted Idaho's "Ag-Gag" Legislation
[20:00:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:unconstitutional law - 06Dairy Lobbyist Crafted Idaho's "Ag-Gag" Legislation - 742 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:00:23] <exec> 08└─> It's worse than that. They've hijacked the term "food safety" to malign people who expose the goings-on. This is utterly normal. I mean it isn't nice or anything but it is the way these things go. The powerful hijack the language of the protesters in order to give themselves (false) legitimacy. Fo...
[20:00:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:unconstitutional law - 06Dairy Lobbyist Crafted Idaho's "Ag-Gag" Legislation - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:00:26] <exec> 08└─Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
[20:00:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:He's wrong - 06Interplanetary Internet about as Useful as Flying Pigs says Vint Cerf - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:00:38] <exec> 08└─That sounds all fine and good ... except we already have a model we like and the big issues of ping time and interference will need a fair amount of resources and testing to become reliable. We can and should start that right now.
[20:00:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Flying pigs are useful.... - 06Interplanetary Internet about as Useful as Flying Pigs says Vint Cerf - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:00:50] <exec> 08└─... if you are craving bacon or a yummy pork steak.
[20:04:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:SJW heaven - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:04:15] <exec> 08└─The death penalty is intolerable. And you didn't quote the whole thing, which was: "It is if you do it against their will. I don't think you should try to modify their bodies or minds through brainwashing or surgery."
[20:04:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Well this is horrifying - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 5 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:04:32] <exec> 08└─viola
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[20:59:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02too late marlene - 06Next Android Version Announced at Google I/O - 1293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:59:41] <exec> 08└─Yes, the permissions thing is a good idea that should have been part of Android all along. But introducing it now is problematic. As an app developer, I can't just target Asteroid M with this new functionality, because it will be years/decades/never before this thing is available to many people. A l...
[20:59:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Re:Meetings - 06Why Do People Waste So Much Time at the Office ? - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:59:54] <exec> 08└─Nothing has changed. You only really get important things done at work before 9 am or after 5 pm. The rest of the time is just an endless stream of meetings and interruptions.
[20:59:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03boristhespider [4048] (Score:2) 02Re:Meetings - 06Why Do People Waste So Much Time at the Office ? - 3101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:59:57] <exec> 08└─If this was 98 you might have just been early enough to avoid the enormous joy that is "Agile". As far as I can see, an Agile "Sprint" is this: Day 1: Convene at the start of the day to look through the list of tasks the project manager has set for the next two weeks. Spend two hours talking about t...
[21:00:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Email - 06Why Do People Waste So Much Time at the Office ? - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:00:03] <exec> 08└─Based on the counts in various email folders, and the average time per message, over the past year my employer has paid me more than $5,000 to read emails that had nothing to do with any of the work I had been assigned. Just noise. Rah-rah. Happy crappy etc. Again, WHY? I'm really amazed that the ec...
[21:00:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I once asked my father if he could watch TV - 06Why Do People Waste So Much Time at the Office ? - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:00:05] <exec> 08└─... at work. He was a civil service EE at a submarine shipyard. "No." That struck me as unreasonable. "Why not?" "Then I wouldn't be getting any work done."
[21:00:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:As much as I love steak... - 06Dairy Lobbyist Crafted Idaho's "Ag-Gag" Legislation - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:00:22] <exec> 08└─animals that die happy taste better than those that die scared, or injured Do you have a link to a peer reviewed paper? Double blind experiments etc? Have you personally participated in one of those experiments to confirm your thoughts on the matter?
[21:00:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03tynin [2013] (Score:2) 02Re:As much as I love steak... - 06Dairy Lobbyist Crafted Idaho's "Ag-Gag" Legislation - 483 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:00:24] <exec> 08└─This is about the best i could find on short notice: http://pubs.acs.org [acs.org] Not sure about any double blinds. I've personally had both deer and hog that were killed instantly, quickly cleaned and cooled. I've also had them where the first shot didn't do the job and...
[21:00:24] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Gravis [4596] 02unconstitutional law - 06Dairy Lobbyist Crafted Idaho's "Ag-Gag" Legislation - 272 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:00:25] <exec> 08└─Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
[21:01:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bumpin' intelligent uglies... - 06Older, Better-Educated Women Are Having More Children - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:01:27] <exec> 08└─Are those herbs legal in your state?
[21:01:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Societal problems - 06Older, Better-Educated Women Are Having More Children - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:01:30] <exec> 08└─"If I’m a lower-income woman," says Stephanie Coontz, "do I want to hitch myself to a guy who may become just another mouth to feed?”
[21:01:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Societal problems - 06Older, Better-Educated Women Are Having More Children - 409 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:01:32] <exec> 08└─It's tough being a woman. You need at least 30 pairs of shoes (usually two new pairs a month) and most of them let rain in so you need special ones for going out when it rains. Also, you can't wear the same dress twice, so they're effectively one-shot disposable clothing. That is why women spend so...
[21:03:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:secure boot itself is fine - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:03:00] <exec> 08└─This basically kills Gentoo as a distribution because (to the best of my knowledge) there is no stock kernel. Every Gentoo user compiles his/her own, so how is that supposed to work in a thou-shalt-not-choose-thy-OS environment?
[21:04:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:SJW heaven - 06Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:04:22] <exec> 08└─Then I realised you did the rather unnecessary anti-Sarkeesian snark earlier, which stood out out rather as being a little unnecessary. (Maybe it was for comic effect though.)
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[21:59:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 024.0? Insensitive Clod! - 06Next Android Version Announced at Google I/O - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:59:46] <exec> 08└─I'm still running 2.3 on my phone. Though it is Cyanogen so I can block app permissions at-will. (And block ads too.)
[21:59:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03meisterister [949] (Score:2) 02Algorithm - 06Next Android Version Announced at Google I/O - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:59:47] <exec> 08└─If Android M will be faster, smaller, use less battery life, allow me to disable just about all of the Google-centric BS, and be less buggy than KitKat then I will consider installing it. Else I'll continue running KitKat until my PDA with voice modem stops working. Given the total resounding...
[21:59:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Techwolf [87] (Score:2) 02Secruity - 06Next Android Version Announced at Google I/O - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:59:48] <exec> 08└─"all of a user's autofill data, passwords, and cache are available when they open links within that application." Hmm...If I am interpreting that right, it means that clicking a link will allow a app to have all that data to send to the mothership. What I am thinking is this: Click on a link, bankin...
[21:59:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Appalbarry [66] (Score:2) 02Yeah, but what will Google break? - 06Next Android Version Announced at Google I/O - 629 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:59:50] <exec> 08└─My girlfriend is still using XP because "upgrades always break things." She's right. Except for my Linux box, which actually seems to upgrade things AND make them better, I can't recall an upgrade in years that didn't screw up some perfectly good feature. Phones, computers, TVs.... I've seen all of...
[21:59:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I'm not so sure asking the user is a good thing - 06Next Android Version Announced at Google I/O - 640 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:59:52] <exec> 08└─quite commonly I want to accomplish a task when I am prompted to click a button. It would be OK if there were some way that I could make my choice of button stick, but also quite commonly that alert is shown again and again. For example my first-gen iPhone - yes, really - is no longer able to commun...
[21:59:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:People adapt to eachoters mental blind corners? - 06Why Do People Waste So Much Time at the Office ? - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:00:00] <exec> 08└─Younger engineers love open offices.
[22:00:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Re:Meetings - 06Why Do People Waste So Much Time at the Office ? - 967 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:00:09] <exec> 08└─Yes well it is obvious, I'm sure, to anyone with a brain that "agile" and "sprint" are just managerdroid-speak for "we're going to pretend if we change a few words around suddenly it magically won't consume time to do things." And you're right about "effort". Our project management system is suppose...
[22:00:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03boristhespider [4048] (Score:2) 02Re:Meetings - 06Why Do People Waste So Much Time at the Office ? - 1034 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:00:11] <exec> 08└─Thankfully we don't have the "Project Work Effort Reporting" - and for full disclosure, my own product manager appears to have a reasonable contempt for this, so that these days my kick-offs are about 30 minutes to an hour long, and generally "effort" involves him asking "how long will this take?",...
[22:02:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Obligatory - 06Media World Fooled with Bogus Chocolate Diet Story - 485 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:01] <exec> 08└─If you consult an oracle too often, the gods become annoyed and punish you with false sign. If you must collect many omens, you must show piety by punishing yourself. The gods may then be satisfied with this substitute and allow a strong sign to overcome the false. If the problems suggested by that...
[22:03:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't that nice! - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 872 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:03:01] <exec> 08└─Won't happen as the EU will throw the finehammer if they try that shit, so I'm willing to bet its just gonna be the tablet and convertables. After all nearly all of those are using the "Windows powered by Bing" free OS so by locking they at least get some Bing search data out of the deal. And lets b...
[22:03:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't that nice! - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:03:08] <exec> 08└─Yeah that too.
[22:03:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:secure boot itself is fine - 06Windows 10 May Make the Secure Boot Lock Out a Reality for Alternate OSs - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:03:19] <exec> 08└─But the fact of the matter is that many vendors are short-sighted enough to think that there's only one key that needs to be loaded into the firmware and that no one will ever have to change it. After all, every additional feature costs money (dammit!) and if the MBAs don't want to invest in it, the...
[22:06:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Solid state refrigerator? - 06Memory Alloy Bounces Back into Shape 10 Million Times - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:06:02] <exec> 08└─Interesting. All this time I thought the heat transfer was the result of the refrigerant going through phase changes.
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[22:59:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:2) 02There is no transition. - 06Ultracold Experiment Could Solve One of Physics's Biggest Contradictions - 481 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:59:43] <exec> 08└─In principle, we could calculate the behaviour of a soccer ball or a ballet dancer directly from quantum mechanics. I practice, we simply don't have enough computing power in the world to do so, and are unlikely ever to. So we take approximations, and get so-called classical physics. Bose-Einstein...
[22:59:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Secruity - 06Next Android Version Announced at Google I/O - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:59:55] <exec> 08└─Sounds like all that is already a risk whenever an app uses a webview. This just lets the app specify the UI of the browser tab rather than have it look like all other browser tabs.
[22:59:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Pity - 06Next Android Version Announced at Google I/O - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:59:58] <exec> 08└─It's too bad they didn't rip off Microsoft and make an OS that's upgradeable without permission from the manufacturer.
[23:00:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:People adapt to eachoters mental blind corners? - 06Why Do People Waste So Much Time at the Office ? - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:09] <exec> 08└─Perhaps that shows in their coding performance too? especially in tricky corner cases..
[23:00:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03BK [4868] 02Bursts - 06Why Do People Waste So Much Time at the Office ? - 130 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:00:10] <exec> 08└─I'd like to believe that the less productive activities are what make those short bursts possible and most appropriately directed.
[23:00:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Meetings - 06Why Do People Waste So Much Time at the Office ? - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:15] <exec> 08└─Yes... get in before the 'head office' can fu*k you up, or stay after they have gone home. In between, youu will be placing your head between your kneesand vomiting. and yes, alcohol affects your tyoping!
[23:00:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02myths - 06Why Do People Waste So Much Time at the Office ? - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:00:28] <exec> 08└─The way everyone talks here it seem they must think they work for the government: Waste. Bureaucracy. Incompetence. Oh wait, this shit is in the private workplace? Here we see the myth of the free market at work.
[23:00:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Some thoughts - 06Why Do People Waste So Much Time at the Office ? - 1829 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:00:29] <exec> 08└─The think about work time and efficiency is that the think don't work as most assume, depending of the type of work the human has different behaviors that affect various spans like for the attention, concentration and others. There also exist natural work cycles, basically cycle of times off high pe...
[23:00:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:As much as I love steak... - 06Dairy Lobbyist Crafted Idaho's "Ag-Gag" Legislation - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:48] <exec> 08└─Do you have a link that explains why you missed the bit where he explains that it's for his own "selfish reasons?"
[23:00:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Cowherd [3699] (Score:1) 02Re:As much as I love steak... - 06Dairy Lobbyist Crafted Idaho's "Ag-Gag" Legislation - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:49] <exec> 08└─Too late for that - by buying animal products from farms in ag-gag states you're already voting with your dollars on the issue.
[23:00:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Cowherd [3699] (Score:1) 02Re:unconstitutional law - 06Dairy Lobbyist Crafted Idaho's "Ag-Gag" Legislation - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:00] <exec> 08└─This law abridges the freedom of speech and freedom of press by rendering them unable to obtain footage from a farm.
[23:01:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:unconstitutional law - 06Dairy Lobbyist Crafted Idaho's "Ag-Gag" Legislation - 590 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:01] <exec> 08└─Exactly. I only clicked the link to post that the legislature had no authority to pass that law, and that the law has no force. I would ignore the damned thing entirely if I were in the process of exposing a bunch of cretins. When I went public with my stuff, I would quite naturally be charged under...
[23:01:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] 02flying pigs could be very useful - 06Interplanetary Internet about as Useful as Flying Pigs says Vint Cerf - 946 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:16] <exec> 08└─Just think of the possibilities. Pigs are among the smartest animals in the world. Trained flying pigs could augment drones. They'd have many war uses. Could even have kamikaze suicide dive bombing pigs. Imagine the deadly insult to Islam to send a pig of all animals to dive bomb Mecca. They'd make...
[23:01:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Flying pigs are useful.... - 06Interplanetary Internet about as Useful as Flying Pigs says Vint Cerf - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:26] <exec> 08└─I have reliable sources telling me that flying pork pigs is the best weapon against those ISIS ;-)
[23:01:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Lesson: Don't have your balls depend organizations - 06Twitch Bans Streaming of "Adults Only" Rated Games - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:48] <exec> 08└─Just as Apple has a problem with Gay apps or whatever that don't fit the niceties of corporate image. The lesson is: YOU CAN'T TRUST A SPECIFIC ORGANIZATION OR CORPORATION WITH INTELLECTUAL FREEDOM. PERIOD.
[23:02:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Too bad, they don't care - 06Media World Fooled with Bogus Chocolate Diet Story - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:32] <exec> 08└─Lots of sciences start out as bullshit. When chemistry first started, it was called "alchemy", and when astronomy started it was called "astrology".
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[23:59:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02A UCSC physicists looked into this numerically - 06Ultracold Experiment Could Solve One of Physics's Biggest Contradictions - 916 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:59:44] <exec> 08└─now it's important to understand that a theoretical model is not the same as an experimental demonstration. From time to time, experiment proves that theory is incorrect. I don't recall his name but I could dig it up. It is difficult to understand spin conceptually. The way I see it, spin is angular...
[23:59:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02"target multiple releases in the same binary" - 06Next Android Version Announced at Google I/O - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:59:53] <exec> 08└─Apple solved the problem of targetting multiple instruction set architectures back in the mid-90s. They also have supported multiple releases of one ISA in the same binary for quite a long time. I'm not pointing out that Apple is better, rather that this has been a solved problem for well over twent...
[23:59:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03BasilBrush [3994] (Score:2) 02Re: Yeah, but what will Google break? - 06Next Android Version Announced at Google I/O - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:59:59] <exec> 08└─Given all the fuss about systemd, I'd say a lot of people would include Linux in that list.