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[00:00:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:Blaming immigrants for nationalist parties? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:00:29] <exec> 08└─Yet you see hugest influx of economic migrants into the nations which formerly dominated their homes. Indonesians in Nederland Nigerians, South Asians in UK Vietnamese, Cambodians and Philippine in USA Algerian, sub-Saharan Africa in France, etc.
[00:00:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:Blaming immigrants for nationalist parties? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:00:32] <exec> 08└─"Multiculturalism urges the hew host country to stop expecting any trend toward assimilation" There is your strawman. Send for the torches!
[00:00:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] 02Re:Disagree - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 618 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:00:37] <exec> 08└─Me too. Maybe there are places it has failed - but it is not a universal failure. Multiculturism is a great success where I live: I can eat food from a different country every day of the month, and enjoy the contributions to music, fashion and art made by people around the world. OP is just a piece...
[00:01:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fluffeh [954] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't know, but a guess - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:01:29] <exec> 08└─Indeed, there should be a reward for separating stupid (people, software, corporations) from their resources as quickly as possible, to minimize the damage they can do.
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[00:58:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Nothing good ever trickles down - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:58:28] <exec> 08└─"It’s affected not just minimum-wage workers, but also middle-class workers.” The good stuff doesn't ever trickle down--but bad stuff does. That's why wage-related stuff is very much on-topic here. -- gewg_
[00:58:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:First thought - 06Heating Homes and Businesses with "Data Furnaces" - 771 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:58:47] <exec> 08└─Here's what the article had to say about it: There are also practical obstacles, Whitehouse says, such as the cost of maintaining remote servers, and the issue of data security. He notes that Nerdalize's radiators are in a tamper-proof case, and use encrypted data but even so, "there are probably a...
[00:58:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02A $500 radiator - 06Heating Homes and Businesses with "Data Furnaces" - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:58:49] <exec> 08└─So does the company pay for the power? That's the missing bit of the article. I can walk down to homebase and get a 2kW plug in radiator for £15. Aside from this "small set up fee", it's completely free to use. And converts 100% of the electricity it uses to heat. Why would I pay £300 to do the sa...
[00:58:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:A $500 radiator - 06Heating Homes and Businesses with "Data Furnaces" - 369 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:58:51] <exec> 08└─On the assumption the company does pay for the electricity. Cost per kwH in the netherlands is 20p, so a 1kW Radiator would recoup its investment in 1500 hours, or say about a year at 10hours/day 6 months/year. However gas prices in Holland are only 6p/kwH, which is what you'd normally use to heat y...
[00:59:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Competition lowers prices - 06Renewables are Disruptive to Coal and Gas - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:59:02] <exec> 08└─I re-read it. Sure if they can beat the price point. Finites as fuel will decline. An interesting technology change that will drive economics! Seems this technology has changed quickly. Then it's th question if the environmental cost is workable. And if there's enough raw material to supply the dema...
[00:59:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Competition lowers prices - 06Renewables are Disruptive to Coal and Gas - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:59:05] <exec> 08└─And according to TFA, that price is reaching parity w/ peaking plants right now.
[00:59:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Competition lowers prices - 06Renewables are Disruptive to Coal and Gas - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:59:06] <exec> 08└─So you still have to buy from what's available at nighttime. Which in most cases is fossiles or nuclear. Wind is kind of unreliable.
[00:59:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Competition lowers prices - 06Renewables are Disruptive to Coal and Gas - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:59:08] <exec> 08└─I think you've lost the track here. You claimed storage carries a trice tag and implied it's too high, I pointed out that TFA said it was on parity with peaking plants. If you store energy, you don't have to buy it, you already have it.
[00:59:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:it's free power, of course it's disruptive - 06Renewables are Disruptive to Coal and Gas - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:59:10] <exec> 08└─Renewable only need to get an economical and sustainable solution to storage. And then it will really make serious dent in competing finite or polluting sources of energy.
[00:59:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Submissions should be neutral in tone - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:59:36] <exec> 08└─but the question is, how do you make it clear that you are editorializing? Should a submitter or editor note be included that states so? Should there be some kind of "agenda" flag? Submitters like myself and gewg_ tend to editorialize implicitly when submitting.
[00:59:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:How tone policing changes a forum - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 630 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:59:50] <exec> 08└─In another life I'm administrator on an indescribably diverse webcomic forum, and have had to confront issues related to this. There's no one right answer. Allowing flames and rants makes a place more stimulating, and more welcoming to people who have grievances. Enforcing civility keeps things open...
[00:59:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Real writers unstandard... - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:00:00] <exec> 08└─o That if the editor does not like the work, it is rejected. The writer can try again, once the rules / policies are in place so the writer understands what is wanted or can go to another editor / publisher to submit. o Real editors do not rewriter another's work and make it something else and place...
[01:00:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:00:27] <exec> 08└─You may want to take unleaded fuel into that equation as well though.
[01:00:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:Blaming immigrants for nationalist parties? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:00:42] <exec> 08└─If you think the world wars were created by "ethnic strife" - not pillage of Capital? There''s no hope for your brainwashed pseudo-intellect. You receive the ideas of others instead of thinking.
[01:00:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:Blaming immigrants for nationalist parties? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:00:46] <exec> 08└─Earlier phases of "Multiculturalism" are why you have a German Xmas tree, a "European" Xianity from near east and why you get to have Bing Crosby sing Cole Porter jazz songs about it. Kindly fuck yourself, and your pitiless ignorant chauvinism.
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[01:58:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Nothing good ever trickles down - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:58:30] <exec> 08└─I navigated to soylentnews.org and seeing the story on the front page I knew immediately what I was going to post -- some snide remark about Hugh Pickens having discovered gay sex with gewg_... And lookie here, I just came in to find just you. Timestamps don't lie.
[01:58:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nothing good ever trickles down - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:58:31] <exec> 08└─"The good stuff doesn't ever trickle down" Golden shower?
[01:58:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Nothing good ever trickles down - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:58:33] <exec> 08└─Some folk don't consider being pissed on a "net positive."
[01:58:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02My experience - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 1285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:58:34] <exec> 08└─At my previous employer I was not paid for the first hour of the day nor anything I did after I clocked out. My official start time was an hour later than my mandatory on-site time and it was an everyday thing to be called up for something after I was done for the day. When it was most obvious was w...
[01:58:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:My experience - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:58:36] <exec> 08└─So the most effective countermeasure is to log all hours and find a new job. Once that is done one can first bill them and later sue if necessary?
[01:58:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My experience - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:58:38] <exec> 08└─That still doesn't solve the problem, only remediates it for the person willing to put in all that work. Note this can happen for multiple employers in a row. It may be a locality problem.
[01:58:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Do it while I'm sleeping. - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:58:39] <exec> 08└─I don't care if you have to stay up all night. As long as I can't see you, you're not working. If you're not working, I don't have to pay you. I expect to see you in the morning at the start of the business, or you're fired for not working.
[01:58:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Do it while I'm sleeping. - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:58:41] <exec> 08└─Suck me off, faggot.
[01:58:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Do it while I'm sleeping. - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:58:42] <exec> 08└─I don't have time for sucking. I'll be up all night spending unpaid hours not-working on a project so my boss can minimize the number of paid business hours spent on it. The boss will get a huge bonus!
[01:59:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Competition lowers prices - 06Renewables are Disruptive to Coal and Gas - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:59:18] <exec> 08└─Storage has so far been the weak point of renewable power. The article points out a change in that, is to reach break even point soon. The problem with storing energy has been losses and a hefty price tag. Thus reliance on the grid. It might have some implications like independence, tax sources dimi...
[01:59:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Rewrite horrible summaries - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 445 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:59:42] <exec> 08└─Addendum: I think it's possible to allow some editorialising while still keeping summaries neutral, rather than being all-or-nothing. I said something about it here [soylentnews.org], and Jesus_666 followed up with a good suggestion about it as well. TL;DR: if you want to allow editorialising in any...
[01:59:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jesus_666 [3044] (Score:2) 02Re:Submissions should be neutral in tone - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 1408 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:59:49] <exec> 08└─I wouldn't do that through an automatic frist post. Editorializing is part of a submission and taking that away takes away from the submission itself. Instead I'd apply some standardized formatting to the contents of that field (if present) and then append them to the story proper. When the story i...
[01:59:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Submissions should be neutral in tone - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 832 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:59:50] <exec> 08└─Could work, though I'd hate losing the ability to mod the commentary portion, which is why I suggested the other. Still, it's probably a lot easier to implement that way. Add a field to the submission process and automatically join them together like that for the editor to work with when editing. Wo...
[01:59:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:2) 02Re:Submissions should be neutral in tone - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:59:56] <exec> 08└─I agree. If I want propaganda I can just go to mainstream news outlets. For the most part they lost any sense of neutrality decades ago.
[02:00:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:Nah - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:00:19] <exec> 08└─...we really could also develop, we could play games, we could share torrents or compress our files into torrents(in a more general sense you could offer online tools). We could collaborate on things,...
[02:00:34] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ilPapa [2366] 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 159 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:00:34] <exec> 08└─Maybe you have failed to understand that US and Australian white people came from very much the same "race", but they have developed vastly different cultures?
[02:00:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:00:48] <exec> 08└─There is no such thing as different races of humans. What you mean is ethnicity. There is only one race: the human race.
[02:00:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:00:52] <exec> 08└─Race is "he's dark, I'm light so we are different human beings"
[02:01:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Blaming immigrants for nationalist parties? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:03] <exec> 08└─You sound really angry, and it's kind of funny, but I don't see what's worth getting so worked up about. Your posts have made less and less sense as you've gone on.
[02:01:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Re:Disagree - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:11] <exec> 08└─Multiculturism is a great success where I live: I can eat food from a different country every day of the month, and enjoy the contributions to music, fashion and art made by people around the world.
[02:02:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What were they being used for? - 06UK Selling Off Unused IPv4 Addresses - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:50] <exec> 08└─I found figures from March 2014 where they have 101,205 employees, so that is approximately 108 per employee. I can't imagine they are using anywhere near that many, but they probably decided it was too much trouble to reconfigure the network to free up addresses in blocks large enough to be worth s...
[02:07:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:what will happen to women? - 06Artificial Sexuality: A Round-Table Discussion on Screwing Robots - 1024 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:37] <exec> 08└─We've already got (human) prostitutes and maids, and they don't seem to have decreased the desire for domestic companionship. Total red herring. Prostitutes are 1) illegal in most places, and 2) expensive for good ones. The cheap ones only really, really desperate men hire, because they're drugged o...
[02:07:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03khedoros [2921] (Score:2) 02Re:what will happen to women? - 06Artificial Sexuality: A Round-Table Discussion on Screwing Robots - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:38] <exec> 08└─Prostitutes are 1) illegal in most places
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[02:58:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Are all of his multiple personalities dead? - 06John Nash, Mathematician, is Dead - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:58:31] <exec> 08└─Or only some of them? Which one was John Nash, a leaf node or the root node? Anybody have a graph?
[02:58:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nothing good ever trickles down - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:58:44] <exec> 08└─What's wrong with his (or her) post? It's a perfectly valid opinion and is relevant.
[02:58:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My experience - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:58:48] <exec> 08└─At my previous employer I was not paid for the first hour of the day nor anything I did after I clocked out. My official start time was an hour later than my mandatory on-site time and it was an everyday thing to be called up for something after I was done for the day. When it was most obvious was w...
[02:58:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:don't forget untaxed labor - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:58:53] <exec> 08└─Don't forget to collect your job-seeker's allowance while you're getting paid under the table for that job you don't have.
[02:58:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The invisible hand at work! - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:58:55] <exec> 08└─Thank God the Invisible Hand is ensuring that our capitalist society functions optimally! Any suckers who are getting their wages stolen deserve it because they were dumb enough to choose to work for a shady employer. Eventually, the invisible hand will cull these suckers from the job market and we'...
[02:59:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Re:so much power waste is because of x86 - 06Heating Homes and Businesses with "Data Furnaces" - 490 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:59:15] <exec> 08└─ARM is only low-power because it's low-performance. A well-designed ARM core on the same process node as an x86 core, with a similar performance target, will have about the same power consumption. Compare eg. A8X to Bay Trail. Of course top-end x86 cores are less efficient - they can compute circles...
[02:59:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Frosty Piss [4971] (Score:0) 02Maintenance Figured In? - 06Renewables are Disruptive to Coal and Gas - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:59:37] <exec> 08└─How does the cost work out over the long run in terms of maintenance and technology upgrades to these solar plants?
[02:59:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02any actual costs mentioned? - 06Renewables are Disruptive to Coal and Gas - 808 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:59:38] <exec> 08└─I noticed a peculiar lack of actual costs mentioned. For example: We see the latest proposed PPA price for Xcel’s SPS subsidiary by NextEra (NEE) as in NM as setting a new record low for utility-scale solar. [..] The 25-year contracts for the New Mexico projects have levelized costs of $41.55/MWh...
[02:59:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03sjames [2882] 02Re:Responsibility - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 477 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:59:49] <exec> 08└─It's a matter of developing a policy to clearly express who is saying what in the summary. If the submission cannot be posted as submitted, perhaps re-write it and say [editor's name] writes at the bottom thank the submitter for bringing it to attention. That way credit is given where due and nobody...
[02:59:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:Then simply reject the post! - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:59:54] <exec> 08└─Then simply reject the post and ask for it to be re-submitted. Allow the poster to fix the problem with their words.
[02:59:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] 02Re:Rewrite horrible summaries - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 970 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:59:57] <exec> 08└─The problem could be solved by including with every summary a link to the original submission, so people can see for themselves just how much things have changed -- that way would save the staff some effort and leave it up to the community to call out any differences. Honestly, though, I think this...
[03:00:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Re:Rewrite horrible summaries - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 1127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:00:03] <exec> 08└─Neutral, as defined by whom? Do we need to edit summaries on any climate change articles, to repeat the party line about how god couldn't possibly allow us to destroy the planet? Do we need to give al-Baghdadi's side to every ISIS story? Should every Tesla article be followed by adicles for gas-powe...
[03:00:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Appalbarry [66] 02A Modest Proposal - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 725 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:00:32] <exec> 08└─If you submit copy to a publication with an editor you'll get edited. Sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. "Real" writers understand this, and accept that some edits aren't what you would prefer. Volunteer or amateur editors just amplify things. If you really feel that the editing is a...
[03:01:00] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 681 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:00] <exec> 08└─> We've been pretending the culture isn't an issue for damned near 40 years...has things gotten any better? Has the violence gone down? Yes. Dramatically. A nearly two-thirds reduction. [wikipedia.org] Today's black violent crime rate is even one third less than the white violent crime rate of the 7...
[03:01:15] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] 02Re:Blaming immigrants for nationalist parties? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 2601 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:15] <exec> 08└─Especially because in the European examples, immigration is not some ethno-sociological experiment - or some disease these societies attracted through sheer osmosis. The great migrations are the direct consequence of European and American states late-stage colonial domination of the world, for labou...
[03:01:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Disagree - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 2685 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:32] <exec> 08└─> I don't like female genital mutilation, honor killings, and virulent strains of intolerant theology. Because those are all muslim things. FGM: [wikipedia.org] Eritrea: FGM is prevalent in 99% of Muslim women, 89% of Catholics and 85% of Protestants Ethiopia: FGM is prevalent in 92% of Muslim women...
[03:01:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Re:Disagree - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 1241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:33] <exec> 08└─Yes, in fact they are all Muslim things. They are not *exclusively* Muslim things. I don't care if it's Islam or some other religion. What the Jews do to baby boys' penises is abhorrent to me, and is morally equivalent to FGM. Unfortunately, there are many religions practicing all sorts of barbarism...
[03:01:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:2) 02Re:Disagree - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 868 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:35] <exec> 08└─I can do all of those things too, and I'm pretty sure I don't live in a same country as you. I have thought about just this issue a few times recently, as I sometimes see a handsome young Asian man, (probably Indian, but maybe Sri Lankan), walking hand-in-hand with a very beautiful young Asian woman...
[03:03:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03bugamn [1017] (Score:2) 02Sorry, someone has to say it - 06British Poo-Powered Bus Sets Speed Record - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:03:36] <exec> 08└─This shit is fast.
[03:08:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:what will happen to women? - 06Artificial Sexuality: A Round-Table Discussion on Screwing Robots - 2274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:02] <exec> 08└─...but still available in most of those places, anyhow. Where? In the ghetto? I don't know about you, but personally, if my life depended on me finding a prostitute in 30 minutes where I live now, I'd be dead, unless I got lucky with Craigslist (and last I heard they had cracked down on that there)....
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[03:58:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02My inspiration - 06John Nash, Mathematician, is Dead - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:58:31] <exec> 08└─I started writing Living with Schizoaffective Disorder [warplife.com] the day after I saw the movie.
[03:58:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Re:My inspiration - 06John Nash, Mathematician, is Dead - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:58:32] <exec> 08└─I started writing Living with Schizoaffective Disorder the day after I saw the movie.
[03:58:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I don't hear voices very much - 06John Nash, Mathematician, is Dead - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:58:34] <exec> 08└─my hallucinations are mostly visual.
[03:58:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Nothing good ever trickles down - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 540 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:58:47] <exec> 08└─What are you talking about? Has nothing to do with the trickle, everything can be esplained by the failed experiments of multiculturalism [soylentnews.org]: it's obvious that the low paid workers simple can't integrate (even the middle class have difficulties to do it) into the mainstream culture of...
[03:58:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Keep an eye on taxes too - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 517 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:58:58] <exec> 08└─Keep an eye on taxes too. You are responsible for all taxes paid (unless you can prove your employer withdrew and then did not pay). Sometimes employers deduct the amount from your check but do not actually pay it. Or they will not deduct it. You find out at tax time and suddenly owe a large amount....
[03:59:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Computers are not for Nerds anymore - 06Heating Homes and Businesses with "Data Furnaces" - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:59:10] <exec> 08└─Internet2, meshnet and Dark Web.
[03:59:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03demonlapin [925] (Score:2) 02Re:what happens in the summer? - 06Heating Homes and Businesses with "Data Furnaces" - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:59:12] <exec> 08└─That's when you crank up the datacenter in Tierra del Fuego.
[03:59:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:what happens in the summer? - 06Heating Homes and Businesses with "Data Furnaces" - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:59:14] <exec> 08└─what happens in the summer?
[03:59:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Uh, Bitcoin mining.... - 06Heating Homes and Businesses with "Data Furnaces" - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:59:18] <exec> 08└─5¢ of bitcoint=5¢ "a naked dance party in your living room with the windows wide-open on New Year's Eve" - priceless
[03:59:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Uh, Bitcoin mining.... - 06Heating Homes and Businesses with "Data Furnaces" - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:59:22] <exec> 08└─Sell bitcoin mining rigs
[04:00:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score:2) 02Re:Then simply reject the post! - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:00:04] <exec> 08└─It is hard to communicate with submitters right now. This would be a lot easier with an insite messaging system which has been proposed before. A lot of readers indicated they didn't want it or it wasn't high priority. I've asked if we can get it just for staff to communicate amongst each other and...
[04:00:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03GoodBookOfTaunts [3804] (Score:1) 02Re:Rewrite horrible summaries - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:00:11] <exec> 08└─Seconded. Including the original would help reveal how much editing is happening. Even better world be a diff tool to quickly show the alterations. Right now the amount of editing performed is difficult to gauge and seems like it is only measured anecdotally. With data it's also possible to automate...
[04:00:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score:2) 02Re:Submissions should be neutral in tone - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 395 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:00:23] <exec> 08└─I like the idea of an automatic first post for the submitter's opinions. As I understand it, the trouble with having it in the submission is that as soon as an editor reads it and posts it, SN loses the ability to say it is owned by the submitter. Hence the need to avoid potentially litigious statem...
[04:00:42] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02Get over yourself... - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 91 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:00:42] <exec> 08└─Should the submissions be allowed to stand as a clear reflection of the community's intent,
[04:01:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:01:11] <exec> 08└─I bet you just keep right on believing that black people are just as violent as ever
[04:01:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:01:23] <exec> 08└─Race is "he's dark, I'm light so we are different human beings".
[04:01:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Disagree - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 1157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:01:45] <exec> 08└─> Yes, in fact they are all Muslim things. They are not *exclusively* Muslim things. Jesus christ. It is right in front of you and yet you choose to be blind. When everybody is doing it, regardless of religion, it is not about religion. I am not surprised you idenitfy as an anti-thiest. You guys mak...
[04:01:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Re:Disagree - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:01:46] <exec> 08└─The worst idea of them all is racism. Time for you to go.
[04:01:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Disagree - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:01:48] <exec> 08└─If you can convert into and out of something, it can't be a race--even by the inaccurate and scientifically invalid definition most people have for the word.
[04:01:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Re:Disagree - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 523 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:01:49] <exec> 08└─Islam isn't a race, and I'm not a racist. To be a racist, I'd have to hate or prejudge a group of people because of their race. That is the only qualification to be a racist, and lacking that prejudice is the only thing you have to do to not be a racist. Most Muslims are SE Asian. Some Muslims are w...
[04:01:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Disagree - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:01:51] <exec> 08└─To be a racist, I'd have to hate or prejudge a group of people because of their race.
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[04:58:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Nothing good ever trickles down - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:58:46] <exec> 08└─How did you find that out?! And why are you posting it in a discussion?! All kidding aside, my employer has known I hate them ever since I started working for them. Yours probably knows you hate them, too.
[04:58:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02employers, the real moocher class - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 1214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:58:59] <exec> 08└─I've been cheated of pay working for edgy startups that fail. They're so focused on "failure is not an option" that they refuse to even think about it. Employees aren't told the money has run out until payroll can't be met. Congrats, we all just donated a month of work to our employer. CAn you sue t...
[04:59:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02How Amazon Fucks Warehouse Workers - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:59:00] <exec> 08└─The SCOTUS recently ruled [slate.com] that Amazon does not have to pay for the time it requires people to spend standing in the exit line while they search them at work. Unbelievable.
[04:59:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Computers are not for Nerds anymore - 06Heating Homes and Businesses with "Data Furnaces" - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:59:13] <exec> 08└─Could be wonderful, if they don't come for the replacements.
[04:59:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Maintenance Figured In? - 06Renewables are Disruptive to Coal and Gas - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:59:51] <exec> 08└─Dunno, but maintenance on a solid-state device like a solar panel has got to be near zero. Probably just wiping the dust off. I'd bet maintenance costs on anything using fossil fuels is at least an order of magnitude higher.
[05:00:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03hubie [1068] (Score:2) 02Re:Submissions should be neutral in tone - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 393 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:00:31] <exec> 08└─When you have motivated and emotional submitters, and I would argue you get a lot of overlap between them and the ones who exaggerate and mislead (intentionally or not) with their comments and stories, they are more likely to flood story submissions with issues that are important to them. I just don...
[05:01:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 648 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:01:20] <exec> 08└─Crime has gone down for everyone in America. Naturally that includes blacks in the gangsta culture. But their crime rate is still higher than for people (of any race) afflicted with less self-destructive cultures. But are you aware that Dr.Sowell is black? And that he's been studying and writing abo...
[05:01:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 702 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:01:21] <exec> 08└─> But are you aware that Dr.Sowell is black? Yes, so what. Are you implying some sort of tokenism? > And that he's been studying and writing about this stuff for decades? Well, all I know is he lied with statistics on the first time I ever met him. So that is a hell of a bad first impression. > If h...
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[05:58:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Zerohedge? Really? - 06The U.S. Is About to Change the Way It Calculates GDP - 506 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:58:29] <exec> 08└─Come on. While the analysis here is pretty good, as a general rule ZH is a wierd mismash of Negative Nancyism, sarcasm, comic relief and pro Russian propaganda. Not saying I don't check it every day or so for the lulz, but if you are taking it as a serious news source I pity ya. You probably haunt I...
[05:58:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:4, Insightful) 02A motto to live by... - 06The U.S. Is About to Change the Way It Calculates GDP - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:58:30] <exec> 08└─If at first you don't succeed, redefine success!
[05:58:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Informative) 02Don't like the data, just alter it! - 06The U.S. Is About to Change the Way It Calculates GDP - 589 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:58:31] <exec> 08└─This is what happened with unemployment statistics. The administrations (note the plural form of the word) didn't like reporting that unemployment was over 10%, so they altered the methods used to compute unemployment. Of course, with sites like shadowstats.com it is easy for anyone to check the REA...
[05:58:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I don't hear voices very much - 06John Nash, Mathematician, is Dead - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:58:42] <exec> 08└─The comment you are reading right now is real. Or is it?
[05:58:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:My inspiration - 06John Nash, Mathematician, is Dead - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:58:43] <exec> 08└─Keep on writing Michael.
[05:58:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Nothing good ever trickles down - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:58:58] <exec> 08└─Don't worry EF, I bet MDC has a job for you.
[05:59:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:My experience - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:59:04] <exec> 08└─If your boss tells you to do something after you punched out, you punch right back in again If you must be onsite at a certain time, you punch in at that time.
[05:59:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:employers, the real moocher class - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:59:14] <exec> 08└─Employees aren't told the money has run out until payroll can't be met. Congrats, we all just donated a month of work to our employer. CAn you sue them for the pay? Sure, but you won't get anything, they're bankrupt.
[05:59:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Screwed by the boss. - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 675 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:59:16] <exec> 08└─I'm retired now but for the 25 years till I retired I had a real asshole for a boss. I figure I worked for less than $10 an hour for those years. Many times working for 15-16 hours a day for weeks on end. Put in many 20 hour days. Most times for hardly any pay. Although sometimes, when we had a good...
[06:00:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score:2) 02Re:Competition lowers prices - 06Renewables are Disruptive to Coal and Gas - 523 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:00:03] <exec> 08└─Just as an aside, there is an important reason why homes are wired with AC instead of DC. To get usable power with reasonable wiring you need minimum 100 volts. If you break a contact on a circuit drawing several amps at >100 volts DC there is a pretty good chance you will get a sustained arc. This...
[06:00:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pseudonymous Coward [4624] (Score:1) 02Re:Responsibility - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:00:26] <exec> 08└─Let me ask this rhetorical question: If SN self-censors because of things that might happen, how much backbone do you think this website has to standing up to legal threats and defending it's rights in face of a legal adversary (read: corporation who's mad)?
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[06:58:44] <exec> 08└─Of course , just like the US Gov. calculates "cost of living". Don't like the way it looks, just include the cost of things you don't need to live. Like electronics from China, or cheap housewares or appliances from China. Meanwhile, the things that one needs to live like costs of food, housing, hea...
[06:58:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Questions, questions... - 06The U.S. Is About to Change the Way It Calculates GDP - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:58:45] <exec> 08└─Will abnormally "good" data be revised lower, or whether labor market data, which is already manipulated beyond comparison by the BLS will also be adjusted due to "residual seasonality"?
[06:58:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:Questions, questions... - 06The U.S. Is About to Change the Way It Calculates GDP - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:58:47] <exec> 08└─That's just what they want you to think.
[06:59:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03chrysosphinx [5262] (Score:1) 02Re:My inspiration - 06John Nash, Mathematician, is Dead - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:00] <exec> 08└─please, consider your ability to be a perk, not illness
[06:59:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Shimitar [4208] (Score:1) 02Monday morning - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 773 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:59:33] <exec> 08└─WARNING: [rant mode ON, it's monday morning] It amuses me when people from the US dawn a blink of light that, maybe, reality hits hard and in the balls. But it make me sick to see in my own country playing out the exact same movie, with delay. The added irony that we HAD (or have being dismantled) a...
[07:00:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Competition lowers prices - 06Renewables are Disruptive to Coal and Gas - 881 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:00:23] <exec> 08└─It seems to already be having an effect on some places. In Australia, for example, the power companies tried to put the squeeze on their customers who were depending on net metering. The customers shot back by disconnecting their solar from the grid and using a combination of storage and load shifti...
[07:03:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't know, but a guess - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:22] <exec> 08└─Well said. However the thing with a casino is, the house always wins. And since here the biggest players make the house, the rules will never change to include your reasonable changes.
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[07:58:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02OMG - 06NASA's WISE Spacecraft Discovers Most Luminous Galaxy in Universe - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:58:32] <exec> 08└─It's full of stars!
[07:58:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Science - 06NASA's WISE Spacecraft Discovers Most Luminous Galaxy in Universe - 808 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:58:34] <exec> 08└─I am starting to notice that any article on actual pure science only receives a very small number of comments, where anything in fascist racist political issues garners over a hundred. Am I correct in thinking that most Soylentils are mere technicians, without an interest in basic research? This exp...
[07:59:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02No better than pickpockets - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:59:34] <exec> 08└─Employers pulling that crap are no better than pick pockets. They need to be treated as such by law enforcement. Perhaps if enough of these career criminals get locked up, the rest will go legit.
[08:01:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:01:49] <exec> 08└─{Secret ComaPodensis task force directive} Mod this and the parent up! Hairyfeet is a valued member of the team!
[08:02:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:02:04] <exec> 08└─That's infrasubspecific variability, not race.
[08:03:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"As the oceans become more saturated with CO2.. - 06Tara Oceans Team Completes Study of World's Plankton - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:03:34] <exec> 08└─Except that CO2 dissolved in water is acidic, which then destroys diatoms, corals and shellfish. Not a good development.
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[08:58:55] <exec> 08└─No? Not interested.
[08:58:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:1, Troll) 02Re:Science: can I eat it or fuck it? - 06NASA's WISE Spacecraft Discovers Most Luminous Galaxy in Universe - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:58:56] <exec> 08└─Ah, now that we have heard from the oysters, any slightly more sentient beings care to comment? Rational beings preferred. Anyone? Bueller?
[08:58:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Science: can I eat it or fuck it? - 06NASA's WISE Spacecraft Discovers Most Luminous Galaxy in Universe - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:58:57] <exec> 08└─It's Bueller day off, idiot.
[08:59:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Zerohedge? Really? - 06The U.S. Is About to Change the Way It Calculates GDP - 1032 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:59:06] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I pretty much agree. Any rational story that comes from that site is bound to be a some sort of troll. But if it sounds over the top leftist corporate hate rage, you can bet it will pop up here on SN the minute gewg_ wakes up. GDP calc is noe and has not been consistent over the decades. It sl...
[08:59:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't like the data, just alter it! - 06The U.S. Is About to Change the Way It Calculates GDP - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:59:10] <exec> 08└─Oh yeah, is that where they include retirees and kids in grade school like Limbaugh does?
[08:59:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My experience - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:59:47] <exec> 08└─Read further: you'd get fired for doing so. Unemployment is the new threat.
[09:00:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Competition lowers prices - 06Renewables are Disruptive to Coal and Gas - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:00:43] <exec> 08└─Tesla batteries are nowhere near "utility scale". They aren't even shipping yet. And yes, other things in the future will be cheaper and better.
[09:02:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:1, Flamebait) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:02:24] <exec> 08└─> But are you aware that Dr.Sowell is black?
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[10:47:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Propaganda works? - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 722 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:47:10] <exec> 08└─People, some dirtbag Muslims killed Lee, but we don't want you to hate Muslims, because we know some nice Muslims. Brainwashing and propaganda work well. Want to see the OTHER side of that coin? You'll have to enter a madrassa, to hear the teachers instilling hatred of the west in their students. Ei...
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[10:47:11] <exec> 08└─Ladies and Gentlemen and Intersexed Individuals, I think we can all agree on one undeniable self evident truth: the Muslims are the new Niggers. Grab a length of rope and start the lynching.
[10:47:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Propaganda works? - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:47:13] <exec> 08└─Boot all those Muslims out of Europe.
[10:47:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Social And Computer Science - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:47:15] <exec> 08└─In the near future, Social Science and Computer Science will be the same thing. Computer science is a dead end field. Everything about computer theory that needs to be discovered already has been, and computer technology is mature enough not to need any improvement ever. Future endeavors will be foc...
[10:47:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02bad ideas - 06The U.S. Is About to Change the Way It Calculates GDP - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:47:42] <exec> 08└─Govs need to stop playing games with numbers. There are some points where you cannot deny "We are all in this together". The games are preventing cures for cancer and other diseases by messing with denominators.
[10:48:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Nothing good ever trickles down - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:48:14] <exec> 08└─This wage-theft thing is more of a "flood-upwards".
[10:48:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Unpaid internships - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:48:35] <exec> 08└─What about unpaid internships - the only job available for degree holders?
[10:49:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Responsibility - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:49:50] <exec> 08└─> It's a matter of developing a policy to clearly express who is saying what in the summary. Irrelevant. The correct soylenting involves these steps: 0 read title 1 skip TFA 2 skip TFS 3 pub some comment 4 read replies 5 from the replies infer the topic of the discussion.
[10:50:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:50:56] <exec> 08└─So long as they remain several times more likely to be violent criminals than anyone else you should happen to run into, keeping them away from your home and family makes sense.
[10:52:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Order and cancel - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:52:23] <exec> 08└─That doesn't relate to my reply, which is that there are all of these silly and arbitrary rules being placed, and all so the rich can get even more pieces of paper.
[10:52:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Order and cancel - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:52:35] <exec> 08└─Read the book Flash Boys by Michael Lewis!
[10:56:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03wantkitteh [3362] (Score:2) 02Re:Responsibility - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:56:33] <exec> 08└─Obviously someone doesn't know of the infamous incident when Paul Merton's guest didn't show up and had to be replaced; no person could be found at such short notice to fill the seat, so they didn't use a person. At the end of the show, Ian Hislop commented that he couldn't beat Paul even when his p...
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[11:47:22] <exec> 08└─Point taken. I am giving to much credit to the common man. But - if it is necessary to awaken the common man's hate before he will defend hearth and home - then so be it. Let him hate. And, that IS the issue here. Islam is showing it's true self in the Levant today, murdering non-Muslims, murdering...
[11:47:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Yeah, fuck these guys. - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:47:26] <exec> 08└─Do we really need these assholes telling our governments how to control us better? I think not.
[11:47:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Science - 06NASA's WISE Spacecraft Discovers Most Luminous Galaxy in Universe - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:47:39] <exec> 08└─I'll bite. If we keep refining our ability to see redshifted objects light, will we eventually be looking at a cloud of hydrogen from before galaxies formed?
[11:49:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Maintenance Figured In? - 06Renewables are Disruptive to Coal and Gas - 2799 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:49:42] <exec> 08└─http://www.eia.gov/electricity/annual/html/epa_08_04.html [eia.gov] A mill is a tenth of a cent. So figure half a cent per KWh to maintain a coal plant. That high pressure steam boiler ain't gonna inspect itself, ya know. The wear and tear on those things is incredible. yeah yeah geologically speaki...
[11:50:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Submission Feedback - the Art of the Possible - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 1153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:50:20] <exec> 08└─For a period of about 3 - 4 months during mid-2014 we used email to contact submitters to explain why their story had been rejected, how they might improve future submissions or simply say 'well done, but too late'. However, we received complaints from some of the submitters that they had not author...
[11:50:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Submission Feedback - the Art of the Possible - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 466 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:50:21] <exec> 08└─For a period of about 3 - 4 months during mid-2014 we used email to contact submitters to explain why their story had been rejected, how they might improve future submissions or simply say 'well done, but too late'. However, we received complaints from some of the submitters that they had not author...
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[12:46:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Bubble, yes - 06Tech Bubble? What Tech Bubble? - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:50] <exec> 08└─What else to call it when the first major breakthough [wikipedia.org] in teledildonics [youtube.com] is still to make a profit?
[12:47:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Propaganda works? - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:47:01] <exec> 08└─THAT is the future for Europe, if this generation of Europeans continues to sleep. I heartily disagree. The modern generation of people born to Muslim families will gradually become more integrated as they become more exposed to other ways of thinking. It's inevitable, just a bit slow.
[12:47:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Propaganda works? - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 2617 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:47:03] <exec> 08└─Brainwashing and propaganda work well. Want to see the OTHER side of that coin? You'll have to enter a madrassa, to hear the teachers instilling hatred of the west in their students. Either that, or the mosque, where the Imams are lecturing about how evil the western devils are. Two wrongs don't ma...
[12:47:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Science - 06NASA's WISE Spacecraft Discovers Most Luminous Galaxy in Universe - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:47:18] <exec> 08└─I'm interested. I read them. But there's not much to discuss.
[12:47:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Zerohedge? Really? - 06The U.S. Is About to Change the Way It Calculates GDP - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:47:27] <exec> 08└─There is a lot of production that just can't happen in the winter.
[12:47:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Zerohedge? Really? - 06The U.S. Is About to Change the Way It Calculates GDP - 1043 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:47:29] <exec> 08└─My analysis of ZH is its kind of like that old saying about democracy, it really sucks but all the alternatives are even worse. The alternatives are a handful of megacorporation owned, corporate advertiser supported, government boot licking propaganda outlets that are so shameless they'd embarrass a...
[12:47:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] 02A motto to live by... - 06The U.S. Is About to Change the Way It Calculates GDP - 48 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:31] <exec> 08└─If at first you don't succeed, redefine success!
[12:47:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Don't like the data, just alter it! - 06The U.S. Is About to Change the Way It Calculates GDP - 589 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:33] <exec> 08└─This is what happened with unemployment statistics. The administrations (note the plural form of the word) didn't like reporting that unemployment was over 10%, so they altered the methods used to compute unemployment. Of course, with sites like shadowstats.com it is easy for anyone to check the REA...
[12:47:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't like the data, just alter it! - 06The U.S. Is About to Change the Way It Calculates GDP - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:47:35] <exec> 08└─Humorously the mantra they recite WRT their weird selection of products was all those household goods are made at the factory down the road so the employee income kind of corrects for the mistakes in goods selection. Oh wait all those jobs went offshore 20 years ago. Whoops.
[12:47:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02autobiography - 06John Nash, Mathematician, is Dead - 1515 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:50] <exec> 08└─His autobiography is here, and pretty good: http://www.nobelprize.org [nobelprize.org] Until I read it I didn't know he was a fellow chemEng refugee like myself. That major has got to be the ultimate "moth to the flame" for STEM people, fre...
[12:48:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:so much power waste is because of x86 - 06Heating Homes and Businesses with "Data Furnaces" - 776 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:48:55] <exec> 08└─That brings up stereotypical design issues, such as is your data center even remotely CPU limited or is it I/O limited? If its I/O limited then weaker lower power CPUs is a great idea. If its CPU limited because you're mining bitcoins or something, then its the other way around and you need fast pro...
[12:49:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Competition lowers prices - 06Renewables are Disruptive to Coal and Gas - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:49:08] <exec> 08└─Yes, my wife complains about it all the time. She won't let me sleep in the same bed as her if I've had beer and curry.
[12:49:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02birth-right! - 06Renewables are Disruptive to Coal and Gas - 2144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:49:26] <exec> 08└─goal, oil, gas are limited (unless there's a huge teleporter hidden somewhere in the earth and friendly aliens replenishing it). they can be polluting. you can oxidize the stuff day and night. the sun shines for free ... every DAY. sometimes more, sometimes less. nevertheless the same sun gave dinos...
[12:49:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] 02Re:Rewrite horrible summaries - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 464 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:49:49] <exec> 08└─It would be nice if the site had a "submitted by" field as part of the header like the "posted by" that indicates the editor. Like this, without the hosts showing: Submitted by sigma [mailto], posted by n1 [soylentnews.org] on Sunday May 24, @06:06AM. This would also make it easier for our editors s...
[12:50:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:50:41] <exec> 08└─The trouble is that unlike when I was young, being a nerd has become cool. When I was in high school, "nerd" was an insult, now it's a compliment. This has a lot of people who just don't have the intelligence and curiosity to be a nerd thinking they are one. OTOH maybe he just needs more coffee...
[12:51:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Where's the crime? - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 98 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:51:57] <exec> 08└─The orders would be placed and withdrawn in rapid succession using a customised computer programme
[12:51:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03n1 [993] 02Re:Where's the crime? - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 388 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:51:58] <exec> 08└─I can only assume HFT is illegal, unless you're in the club of 'large financial institutions and their partners', then it's stimulating the economy and creating liquidity, helping the stock market and therefor the economy to reach all new highs. Much like how insider trading is illegal, unless you'r...
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[12:52:04] <exec> 08└─Just to add to my previous comment: Tim Worstall [forbes.com] says: The HFT guys are making money, yes indeed they are. But they’re making money in much smaller sums than the general investors in aggregate are saving through the collapse in spreads as a result of the extra liquidity. HFT, at least...
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[13:46:51] <exec> 08└─while nobody doubts that many of tech’s unicorns are indeed real businesses
[13:46:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03kadal [4731] (Score:2) 02Marc Andreessen - 06Tech Bubble? What Tech Bubble? - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:46:52] <exec> 08└─The New Yorker recently published a good article on Marc Andreessen, big time VC: http://www.newyorker.com [newyorker.com]
[13:47:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Propaganda works? - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:47:06] <exec> 08└─It is fine that you disagree. Do you have any evidence to show that this assimilation is inevitable? Or, are you just voicing a hopeful opinion? https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com [wordpress.com] http://www.amnation.com
[13:47:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Propaganda works? - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:47:08] <exec> 08└─And lets not kill animals in a painful and distressing way either.
[13:47:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yeah, fuck these guys. - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:47:11] <exec> 08└─Do we really need these assholes telling our governments how to control us better? I think not
[13:47:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Idiots - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:47:12] <exec> 08└─So which kind of idiot thinks that humans should not be allowed to react at all to traumatic events? I'd much rather people post rants online than say go on a shooting spree.
[13:47:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03boristhespider [4048] (Score:2) 02Re:Science - 06NASA's WISE Spacecraft Discovers Most Luminous Galaxy in Universe - 1922 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:47:25] <exec> 08└─There's not much to see in a universe filled almost entirely with neutral hydrogen and neutral helium. After the formation of the CMB, that's basically all there was - the CMB itself is effectively a (heavily redshifted) photograph of the universe as it was when it cooled enough for neutral hydrogen...
[13:47:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:1) 02Re:Science - 06NASA's WISE Spacecraft Discovers Most Luminous Galaxy in Universe - 1279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:47:28] <exec> 08└─I mostly refrain from replying because some juvenile will destroy any discussion trying to gain LOL points. On the subject, I have been playing with an idea for a scifi story for at least 30 years, but never got around to writing it down. Imagine our universe started with a big bang and will end wit...
[13:47:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Shub [474] (Score:1) 02Re:Science - 06NASA's WISE Spacecraft Discovers Most Luminous Galaxy in Universe - 562 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:47:29] <exec> 08└─As a commenter below noted(he/she reads the stories). It becomes increasingly hard to actually comment on science stories, as science necessarily becomes more focused and esoteric as time goes by and therefore harder to comment on for laypeople such as myself and others. All we can really say is tha...
[13:47:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't like the data, just alter it! - 06The U.S. Is About to Change the Way It Calculates GDP - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:47:44] <exec> 08└─ShadowStats is garbage. http://azizonomics.com [azizonomics.com]
[13:48:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Uh, Bitcoin mining.... - 06Heating Homes and Businesses with "Data Furnaces" - 484 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:48:58] <exec> 08└─Way to keep up with 2015 Mr Clever. Sure the rigs are off for the summer. Yes they'll be plugged back in for the winter. In the meantime you just go on with your bad self. http://www.ebay.com [ebay.com] Yeah 1....
[13:49:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02sirens all the way - 06Heating Homes and Businesses with "Data Furnaces" - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:49:10] <exec> 08└─maybe they can use the space heater to calculate how they can make it have more then a COP of 1?
[13:50:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:Submission Feedback - the Art of the Possible - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:50:20] <exec> 08└─More work than the checkbox/email thing
[13:50:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Submission Feedback - the Art of the Possible - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:50:21] <exec> 08└─Actually, it would be easier from the editor's point of view as the email was a separate program. Using a web page makes the transfer of links and listing submitter names much easier.
[13:51:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 814 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:51:15] <exec> 08└─For an example of why culture can be a bad thing? Just look at the ample evidence that the current culture of the American black, which glorifies violence and gangs, drugs, abusing women and abandoning children That isn't black culture, it's ghetto culture and perpetuated by the media; look at the m...
[13:51:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Blaming immigrants for nationalist parties? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:51:25] <exec> 08└─Indeed. If you don't wish to be assimilated into German culture, don't move to Germany. Don't know Spanish? Don't move to Mexico.
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[14:46:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02They probably got their answers. - 06The CIA Is Shuttering a Secretive Climate Research Program - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:46:52] <exec> 08└─People are going to be people, no matter how hot or how cold it gets. We've waged war in the deserts - both hot and cold - we've waged war in the tropical forests, across the savannahs, in the mountains, and we never let the temperature interfere with our killing of each other.
[14:47:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03caffeinated bacon [4151] (Score:1) 02Re:uh, OK - 06Tech Bubble? What Tech Bubble? - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:02] <exec> 08└─You're forgetting the future. What if this company gains critical market share? How much money will they make if they are the first to exploit some niche that turns out to be profitable? First mover advantage is quite real, how much are people willing to risk for a big payoff?
[14:47:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What goes in the toilet when this bubble pops? - 06Tech Bubble? What Tech Bubble? - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:47:04] <exec> 08└─I'm getting close to retirement age (USA). An IRA I started long ago is in a Fortune 500 index fund, which has been doing really well lately. Is it time to switch over to something more conservative (ie, money market funds)? Or will the current tech bubble pop on it's own with minimal damage to the...
[14:47:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Science - 06NASA's WISE Spacecraft Discovers Most Luminous Galaxy in Universe - 1478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:38] <exec> 08└─I read the summaries, and agree there's little to actually debate. This is a possible argument for story moderation, so the poster can be thanked with some attaboys. In a case like this, however, I don't read the linked-to article, as it's a NASA link, and some time last year NASA started to deliber...
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[14:47:41] <exec> 08└─This may sound like nit-picking, but is intended to be constructive criticism. :-) Unless I have misunderstood something, you have 'alternating universes of positive and negative matter'. Okay, fine, that sounds interesting. Then imagining that one bunch escaped their big crunch...you lose me there,...
[14:48:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't like the data, just alter it! - 06The U.S. Is About to Change the Way It Calculates GDP - 564 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:48:00] <exec> 08└─I notice that Mr. Aziz attacks the inflation charts, but doesn't bother to analyze any of the other Shadowstats figures. Perhaps Aziz is correct - Shadowstats simply attaches some constant to the government's figures, and inflates the figures with that constant. Or - alternatively - the government i...
[14:48:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Empyrean [5241] (Score:1) 02Re:My inspiration - 06John Nash, Mathematician, is Dead - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:48:18] <exec> 08└─I have schizo-affective disorder as well, and trust me when I say that the ability to have mania/depression is a lousy superpower.
[14:48:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Even the brightest need to learn - 06John Nash, Mathematician, is Dead - 357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:48:21] <exec> 08└─... that seatbelts are good for you. Such a shame, but I'm a believer that the more significant death is that when your name last gets mentioned, rather than just the mere mechanical one he's just suffered, and by that measure, John Nash will be effectively immortal. Well, there are no more moves to...
[14:49:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:so much power waste is because of x86 - 06Heating Homes and Businesses with "Data Furnaces" - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:49:27] <exec> 08└─Profitably mining bitcoin on a GP processor? I believe that ship sailed at least 2 years ago.c
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[15:47:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:uh, OK - 06Tech Bubble? What Tech Bubble? - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:00] <exec> 08└─Exactly, just like the flooz market or the dog food delivery over the internet market.
[15:47:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:uh, OK - 06Tech Bubble? What Tech Bubble? - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:02] <exec> 08└─Do you really think Uber is worth $41 billion? How much do you think Facebook is worth and when will investors be able to cash out on it?
[15:47:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:What goes in the toilet when this bubble pops? - 06Tech Bubble? What Tech Bubble? - 674 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:06] <exec> 08└─I don't feel knowledgeable enough to answer your question, but I do feel comfortable enough to say that I doubt the tech bubble can pop without significantly harming other 'areas'. The reason I say that is that tech is so widespread and entrenched in almost everything nowadays, it has a huge impact...
[15:47:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Propaganda works? - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 500 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:18] <exec> 08└─I'm voicing a hopeful opinion. I think the hope comes from past experience and human nature. Assimilation is inevitable, by sheer weight of numbers. The death cult can not sustain itself indefinitely, especially since it is now in direct contact with the more enlightened world. I think you will see...
[15:47:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Propaganda works? - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 658 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:19] <exec> 08└─I think that you are unaware of two key facts, both related to population. The Muslim population grows exponentially, just as the world population grew 200 years ago, up to about 40 years ago. The European population is no longer growing. White reproduction in Europe and in the US has fallen below r...
[15:47:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Rush Limbaugh has an account here? - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:22] <exec> 08└─So, the ends justify the means. Yes, wave that bloody shirt with righteous vigor! That attitude causes you to become more like those you hate, and the rest of us can't see the difference between you and them. Your type keep throwing fuel on the fire, and wondering why the fire grows bigger and hotte...
[15:47:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Rush Limbaugh has an account here? - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:23] <exec> 08└─Meanwhile, your kind wants to watch the fire burn, while you try to learn what will put the fire out. FACT: Islam grows at the expense of everyone else in the world. They are colonizing every continent, every country, every island in the world. Your solution is to build a campfire and sing Kumbaya...
[15:47:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Propaganda works? - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:26] <exec> 08└─So instead of tens of thousands of enemies you would prefer to have a billion and a half. Yeah, that's 'interesting'.
[15:47:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02US escapades abroad 100% responsible for terrorism - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 1829 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:31] <exec> 08└─If the US did not sponsor coups in over 50 countries in my lifetime. If the US did not illegally attack Iraq to steal its oil, and before that, overthrow the democratically elected government of Iran (1953) to steal its oil. If it did not sponsor a European colony (Israel) in the middle of Arab terr...
[15:47:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03boristhespider [4048] (Score:2) 02Re:Science - 06NASA's WISE Spacecraft Discovers Most Luminous Galaxy in Universe - 1449 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:49] <exec> 08└─Couch it in a braneworld theory - have a read up on ekpyrosis for the best-known example. In something like a Randall-Sundrum 1 model you have two branes parallel to each other, each of which has three spatial dimensions and is hanging in a universe with four space and one time dimension. Each is it...
[15:48:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Kind of like... - 06The U.S. Is About to Change the Way It Calculates GDP - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:48:12] <exec> 08└─Amazons reviews. Crappy items with a lot of negative (or low star) reviews still get a higher average rating.
[15:48:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02There is no real way to tell - 06John Nash, Mathematician, is Dead - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:48:24] <exec> 08└─How do I know that soylent news even exists? I do not because I cannot.
[15:48:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:My inspiration - 06John Nash, Mathematician, is Dead - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:48:25] <exec> 08└─"Somebody of relative note and importance just died. Let me point out there's an opportunity here TO TALK ABOUT ME."
[15:48:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03fliptop [1666] (Score:2) 02Re:autobiography - 06John Nash, Mathematician, is Dead - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:48:31] <exec> 08└─That major has got to be the ultimate "moth to the flame" for STEM people, freshman walk in "oh how cool" and by sophomore year its all "F this shit, hello EE/CS" or whatever.
[15:49:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03isostatic [365] 02Re:A $500 radiator - 06Heating Homes and Businesses with "Data Furnaces" - 369 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:49:40] <exec> 08└─On the assumption the company does pay for the electricity. Cost per kwH in the netherlands is 20p, so a 1kW Radiator would recoup its investment in 1500 hours, or say about a year at 10hours/day 6 months/year. However gas prices in Holland are only 6p/kwH, which is what you'd normally use to heat y...
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[16:46:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02By pure coincidence... - 06Supermarket LED Lights Talk to Smartphone App - 444 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:46:49] <exec> 08└─... earlier today I was reading the Philips wikipedia page, and noticed this: "The Philips physics laboratory was scaled down in the early 21st century, as the company ceased trying to be innovative in consumer electronics through fundamental research." Which pretty much sums things up. They've stop...
[16:46:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:They probably got their answers. - 06The CIA Is Shuttering a Secretive Climate Research Program - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:46:59] <exec> 08└─And that's why the CIA are called the C*I*A - what they're looking for is *Intelligence*. And almost certainly they've still not found any.
[16:47:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02World turned upside down - kudos to HP! - 06Tech Bubble? What Tech Bubble? - 2163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:47:13] <exec> 08└─Hugh Pickens turned in a good summary with some good links - kudos! This was an interesting read. The way I see it, the VC world is working like it's supposed to. The problem they have is that no one knows which companies will be home runs and which will be duds ahead of time. All they can do is inv...
[16:47:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Propaganda works? - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:47:29] <exec> 08└─Assimilation is inevitable, by sheer weight of numbers.
[16:47:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:Rush Limbaugh has an account here? - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 761 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:47:32] <exec> 08└─LOL! You don't even know my what my 'kind' is, or what I espouse. All you can see is 'us versus them'. You erroneously see it as binary, when it is not. Once you take that hate-infused 'us vs. them' attitude, the more you say defending your side, the more ridiculous you sound to others. Islam is onl...
[16:50:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Re:birth-right! - 06Renewables are Disruptive to Coal and Gas - 734 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:50:22] <exec> 08└─If you wed and/or have offspring does the head of household control the KW? What about the mentally ill, who controls their allotment? And the homeless? The poor? And many more... How can you say how much of the Sun's energy I can have? Taking more does not deplete it. IOW I think your idea is bad a...
[16:51:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Re:Submission Feedback - the Art of the Possible - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:51:03] <exec> 08└─You could just include an email form on the web page that only editors could see and it could be in the same place where you approve the submission or deny the submission. SendMail is a hellovadrug...
[16:51:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:Submission Feedback - the Art of the Possible - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:51:03] <exec> 08└─We used to use the same email that submitters put on their submissions - they still complained. I would prefer to avoid using email altogether.
[16:51:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Re:Submission Feedback - the Art of the Possible - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 529 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:51:05] <exec> 08└─I kind of figured that but the statement was that email was a separate program and it doesn't have to be as there are a variety of elegant solutions available IF you opt to go that route. The idea of a check box asking for permission to respond via email (checked as default) is not an entirely bad i...
[16:53:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Order and cancel - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 913 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:53:21] <exec> 08└─"Then you announce to the world that you are going to buy a billion shares at $99, through a limit order you intend to cancel." Well, obviously this may not be how you want to do it because something like this would be much more noticeable and harder to get away with. But what people probably do on...
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[17:46:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:By pure coincidence... - 06Supermarket LED Lights Talk to Smartphone App - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:46:51] <exec> 08└─Nice catch. And, it looks like a good translation, as well. For myself, I would think it far to creepy to have my telephone telling me which bottle of mayonnaise I should put in the cart. Or which package of chicken. Or whatever else. This is on a par with the Google Teddy Bear story.
[17:46:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Hacker's Playground... - 06Supermarket LED Lights Talk to Smartphone App - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:46:53] <exec> 08└─This sounds like it will be too easy, and too fun to resist 'playing games' with. I can imagine all sorts of hilarity can be induced. (sending shoppers on wild goose chases, fake treasure hunts, etc.-it boggles the mind!) Hell, it may even become a 'reality show', or 'go viral' on youtube. *goes to...
[17:46:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Why not use NFC tech? - 06Supermarket LED Lights Talk to Smartphone App - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:46:55] <exec> 08└─NFC, Near Field Communication. Costs pennies compared to other tech. But then again, you get a max 20cm range.
[17:46:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02WTF - 06Supermarket LED Lights Talk to Smartphone App - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:46:56] <exec> 08└─If users open a compatible app and let their smartphone camera look upwards
[17:47:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:They probably got their answers. - 06The CIA Is Shuttering a Secretive Climate Research Program - 579 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:05] <exec> 08└─Maybe you need intelligence to RECOGNIZE intelligence. Just sayin'.... Jokes aside, what I find interesting is this tidbit from the article: But the CIA's work on climate change has drawn heavy fire from a group of congressional Republicans led by Sen. John Barrasso (Wyo.). Barrasso said last year...
[17:47:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:They probably got their answers. - 06The CIA Is Shuttering a Secretive Climate Research Program - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:06] <exec> 08└─Barrasso said last year that he believes that "the climate is constantly changing" and that "the role human activity plays is not known."
[17:47:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hawkwind [3531] (Score:2) 02Re:They probably got their answers. - 06The CIA Is Shuttering a Secretive Climate Research Program - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:08] <exec> 08└─Have to say I was hoping the deniers would let this planning proceed after CNA gave a strong vote for planning for global warming [cna.org]. I wonder how many of those retired generals are Republicans. btw, I remember some months ago a couple of people wondering what impact rising sea levels act...
[17:47:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Got to love the priorization of war over... - 06The CIA Is Shuttering a Secretive Climate Research Program - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:47:09] <exec> 08└─...world health. It just keeps getting better and better. What a wonderful world we live in. God bless America.
[17:47:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:uh, OK - 06Tech Bubble? What Tech Bubble? - 853 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:21] <exec> 08└─Transitioning from startup to real company is where failure seems to occur. Where the startup use to have 1mil+ of fun money to play with they now only have what is in the sales pipeline. If the startup hasn't even figured out how to monetize the product then they may never ever transition to a real...
[17:47:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:What goes in the toilet when this bubble pops? - 06Tech Bubble? What Tech Bubble? - 1640 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:25] <exec> 08└─We're still in a depressed environment. There are still no real good places to park money. While interest rates stay near 0%, savings accounts and money markets won't pay well. So what do people do, when interest is so low? Bonds are horrible. The moment interest goes up, bonds tank, as everyone wil...
[17:47:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Propaganda works? - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:43] <exec> 08└─> The death cult WTF is wrong with you?
[17:47:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Rush Limbaugh has an account here? - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 792 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:47] <exec> 08└─If it's to radical and complex for you to put it into words - then it is worthless. It looks to me like you want to re-engineer all of society to confrom to your views. Didn't Joseph Stalin do that? What are the numbers now? How many died to prove Stalin right? Some shuffled off to Siberia, to die o...
[17:47:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:Rush Limbaugh has an account here? - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:48] <exec> 08└─You stupid git! I never said it was too complex to put into words! I said it was too complex to describe here. As in: 'This is not the place for a position-paper consisting of hundreds of pages '. Now, is that simple enough for you? Words of wisdom from my grandfather: 'Don't argue with idiots, as l...
[17:48:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Re:Zerohedge? Really? - 06The U.S. Is About to Change the Way It Calculates GDP - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:48:26] <exec> 08└─That is why I get all my news from TalkingPointsMemo and Pravda. Yes, all of it... </sarcasm>
[17:48:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:bad ideas - 06The U.S. Is About to Change the Way It Calculates GDP - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:48:38] <exec> 08└─There are some points where you cannot deny "We are all in this together".
[17:48:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Kind of like... - 06The U.S. Is About to Change the Way It Calculates GDP - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:48:41] <exec> 08└─I've never seen or heard of that one before.
[17:48:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rich [945] (Score:3, Insightful) 02GDP as a metric - 06The U.S. Is About to Change the Way It Calculates GDP - 913 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:48:42] <exec> 08└─I've never understood why GDP as a metric is such a fetish. Measuring progress by it credits each and every senseless waste of effort as unequivocally good. (cf "Broken Window Fallacy"). It's a bit like if I'm finished with work at 5 pm, I'd smash a window of my house, head to the DIY store, buy a n...
[17:48:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Re:GDP as a metric - 06The U.S. Is About to Change the Way It Calculates GDP - 916 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:48:44] <exec> 08└─This is definitely a weakness of GDP as a metric. The freshly divorced guy who has a major heart attack, causing a massive accident on the highway - he has just caused a positive blip in the GDP. The fact that, in total, his actions destroyed rather that created? GDP does not capture that. Of course...
[17:49:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Re:My experience - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 1561 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:49:25] <exec> 08└─Most of my working life (years in the military aside) was for myself as I owned my own business (since sold and now retired) but I did work for other people/companies as part of my business and prior to that time. I never was willing to work for free and I did not encourage my employees to do any wo...
[17:49:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Re:Screwed by the boss. - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 725 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:49:38] <exec> 08└─Old adage I learned in a few business classes I took (see my above comment for more detail if you want): You will never work harder than you will for yourself. The most difficult thing was (oddly, I love maths) learning to keep a ledger according to the standards. I automated the format for a while...
[17:50:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Re:Uh, Bitcoin mining.... - 06Heating Homes and Businesses with "Data Furnaces" - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:50:00] <exec> 08└─I have been reading here for a while but just decided to join (I won't post AC - I said it, I own it, my moniker is all over the web) yesterday but, even having read a lot, the is the most salient point made in any comment on the board. I am humbled, impressed, and genuflect in your direction.
[17:50:35] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03deimtee [3272] 02Re:Competition lowers prices - 06Renewables are Disruptive to Coal and Gas - 523 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:50:36] <exec> 08└─Just as an aside, there is an important reason why homes are wired with AC instead of DC. To get usable power with reasonable wiring you need minimum 100 volts. If you break a contact on a circuit drawing several amps at >100 volts DC there is a pretty good chance you will get a sustained arc. This...
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[18:46:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02soylent pls - 06Karl Popper and the Art of Troubleshooting - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:46:49] <exec> 08└─The art of troubleshooting, below. If it runs on windows, the problem is windows, reboot and hope for the best. If it runs on OSX, the problem is that you have to spend $$$ and update. If it runs on GNU/Linux, the problem is you. If it runs on systemd/linux: the problem is this [youtube.com]
[18:46:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Diax's Rake - 06Karl Popper and the Art of Troubleshooting - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:46:50] <exec> 08└─Most of the time it is a failure to apply Diax's Rake [wikia.com] : )
[18:46:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02game on - 06Karl Popper and the Art of Troubleshooting - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:46:53] <exec> 08└─i think there used to be game called "mastermind".
[18:47:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:WTF - 06Supermarket LED Lights Talk to Smartphone App - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:05] <exec> 08└─Cause, you know, I'm always doing that, especially while wandering around a food store. Every time I stop and place some apples in my cart, I can barely control myself from whipping out my phone and acting like the worlds biggest dork (or worse than usual anyway).
[18:47:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02More tech details? - 06Supermarket LED Lights Talk to Smartphone App - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:47:06] <exec> 08└─It transmits codes via light waves, which are undetectable to the eye but can be picked up by a phone camera.
[18:47:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02oh yeah that will not be abused - 06Supermarket LED Lights Talk to Smartphone App - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:47:08] <exec> 08└─Oh yeah that will not be abused... /sarc So I have to turn on my camera (using power). So it can reach across the internet (using my dataplan), to give me possible coupons. So put a unique code on it and you can basically track people around the store to within a few feet (as GPS is garbage inside)....
[18:47:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:They probably got their answers. - 06The CIA Is Shuttering a Secretive Climate Research Program - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:19] <exec> 08└─Maybe Barrasso is afraid that the CIA will confirm Naomi Klein's conclusions [wikipedia.org] about the possible practical solutions ... "capitalism OR survival" sounds like a concept many influential people would rather not have other people (the 99%) contemplate. I wonder if the CIA used the German...
[18:47:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:They probably got their answers. - 06The CIA Is Shuttering a Secretive Climate Research Program - 844 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:21] <exec> 08└─I'll have to admit that the gymnastics involved in using the science for military purposes while denying the science for political purposes is rather stupefying. There have been many times recently where I felt my mind shut down like an old-school pinball machine when it 'tilts', when paying attenti...
[18:47:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:They probably got their answers. - 06The CIA Is Shuttering a Secretive Climate Research Program - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:22] <exec> 08└─Their best chance would be to join SETI.
[18:47:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Settle - 06The CIA Is Shuttering a Secretive Climate Research Program - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:24] <exec> 08└─When was the last time roving bandits tried to kill then rape you? When was the last time you didn't have any food for a month? Our world is better than it ever has been and the trend is continuing.
[18:47:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jiro [3176] (Score:2) 02Re:Settle - 06The CIA Is Shuttering a Secretive Climate Research Program - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:25] <exec> 08└─When was the last time roving bandits tried to kill then rape you?
[18:47:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What goes in the toilet when this bubble pops? - 06Tech Bubble? What Tech Bubble? - 431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:42] <exec> 08└─Another option is to assume you won't need the money in the next ~5-10 years--keep working if it's still fun. This seems to be about (very roughly) the stock market cycle time, in recent history. Grit your teeth, accept that market timing doesn't work, and stay in S&P 500, knowing that it might fal...
[18:47:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What goes in the toilet when this bubble pops? - 06Tech Bubble? What Tech Bubble? - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:44] <exec> 08└─You are close to retirement! Good god man of course it is time to move to conservative ventures! Don't risk what you can't lose!
[18:48:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Science of Tweets - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:48:14] <exec> 08└─Science of tweets? Really? No wonder governments are rushing to cut "science" budgets!! Even teenagers are abandoning twitter as an utter wasteland of spew, and these clowns are rushing to study tweets? With a dramatic increase in fake accounts, why would anybody retweet some random tweet in the fir...
[18:48:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Re:Science: can I eat it or fuck it? - 06NASA's WISE Spacecraft Discovers Most Luminous Galaxy in Universe - 2958 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:48:27] <exec> 08└─At risk of being pedantic (and a Grammar Nazi) when the summary pretty much begins with this "...has been discovered using data from NASA..." you may find people overlooking it? I do not know, really, but I am almost positive that this galaxy is not using NASA's data. Actually, it may be that it tak...
[18:48:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Re:Science - 06NASA's WISE Spacecraft Discovers Most Luminous Galaxy in Universe - 1153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:48:32] <exec> 08└─Regardless of its charter NASA is not, has not ever been, open. It is supposed to be but it is not. Before its official start date there was a report submitted to congress that included the idea of hiding NASA's findings WRT finding alien life or other information that "may trouble" the populace. I...
[18:48:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Zerohedge? Really? - 06The U.S. Is About to Change the Way It Calculates GDP - 1148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:48:49] <exec> 08└─Here's a great quote of two paragraphs from one ZH post today toward the end of a post discussing two recent stupid movie releases: Memorial Day is a dreary moment to have to face this onrushing calamity of rocket-propelled medievalism rampant — all those poor American soldiers blown up and mangl...
[18:48:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't like the data, just alter it! - 06The U.S. Is About to Change the Way It Calculates GDP - 874 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:48:58] <exec> 08└─The thing with inflation is it *depends* on what you are talking about. For example if you talk about cars it is pretty clear there is inflation. In the year 2000 I could buy a nice bmw for about 32k. The same car today would be 50-60k. Yet a gallon of milk is about the same price. This also varies...
[18:49:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My experience - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 444 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:49:50] <exec> 08└─Your story about modeling...that's absurd! Not your story, not the outcome, not the luck, but that is how things work and every instance reinforces our knowledge of it. Good for you. Good for society that your work has been of use. Terrible for all the other poor slobs, along with the rest of us, th...
[18:50:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03captain normal [2205] 02Screwed by the boss. - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 675 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:50:02] <exec> 08└─I'm retired now but for the 25 years till I retired I had a real asshole for a boss. I figure I worked for less than $10 an hour for those years. Many times working for 15-16 hours a day for weeks on end. Put in many 20 hour days. Most times for hardly any pay. Although sometimes, when we had a good...
[18:50:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Thought experiment - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:50:07] <exec> 08└─A drug is discovered which lowers selfish desire and increases socially beneficial desire. What happens?
[18:50:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Gravis [4596] 02Re:Competition lowers prices - 06Renewables are Disruptive to Coal and Gas - 86 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:50:56] <exec> 08└─Solar only gives you power at daytime. For nighttime you need other sources, like gas.
[18:50:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03kaszz [4211] 02Re:Competition lowers prices - 06Renewables are Disruptive to Coal and Gas - 218 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:50:57] <exec> 08└─Because storage also has price tag. Batteries wear out. The only solution that seems interesting is the one with molten salt. And of course the classical with water reservoirs. But those need a massive amount of water.
[18:51:04] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Gravis [4596] 02it's free power, of course it's disruptive - 06Renewables are Disruptive to Coal and Gas - 296 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:51:05] <exec> 08└─this isn't surprising really. mass production is a good way to reduce cost and solar power is just using free power that showers down from the sky every single day without exception. so why are we subsidising oil and coal? seems like we are bending over backwards just to pollute the environment.
[18:53:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:Where's the crime? - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 764 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:53:53] <exec> 08└─>The HFT guys are making money, yes indeed they are. But they’re making money in much smaller sums than the general investors in aggregate are saving through the collapse in spreads as a result of the extra liquidity. HFT, at least in normal market conditions, benefits the small investor most cert...
[18:54:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"As the oceans become more saturated with CO2.. - 06Tara Oceans Team Completes Study of World's Plankton - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:54:30] <exec> 08└─Further reading. http://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[18:55:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:Scarcity - 06UK Selling Off Unused IPv4 Addresses - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:55:00] <exec> 08└─Ignoring Facebook for the moment, Google (or your preferred search engine) being on IPv6 is meaningless if all of the sites turned up by it are not on IPv6. Sort of like browsing product catalogs on a deserted island.
[18:55:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02One small design change - 06Cute or Creepy? Google's Plan for a Sci-Fi Teddy Bear - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:55:51] <exec> 08└─If you cut out the wireless transmitter, it would be a pretty cool toy. Even moreso if it had an open API/design to allow people to program it with the best personality for their kids. Kid cries a lot? Program it to crawl over to comfort him. Needs more exercise? Program it to play tag or keep-away.
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[19:46:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02What I wish I had known before - 06Karl Popper and the Art of Troubleshooting - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:46:56] <exec> 08└─what I want to teach all the young people: Use assertions before you use debuggers.
[19:46:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02No need for Falifictrion - 06Karl Popper and the Art of Troubleshooting - 488 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:46:57] <exec> 08└─Once you are in trouble shooting mode, whatever hopes and expectations of perfection you had are dashed, and gone. Now you need to find out what caused this particular trouble, Fix that, then think of where something similar could occur and check those places as well. Trouble shooting is not the sam...
[19:46:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02apples and oranges - 06Karl Popper and the Art of Troubleshooting - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:46:59] <exec> 08└─When we use our intuition to solve a problem, we look for things that confirm the conclusion.
[19:47:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02WindowsITPro? - 06Karl Popper and the Art of Troubleshooting - 944 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:47:01] <exec> 08└─So what in the world is WindowsITPro and why should we take troubleshooting advice from them? The name doesn't immediately inspire confidence and I've never heard of them before. A Windows source talking about troubleshooting could be really good, since Windows is notorious for its problems, so mayb...
[19:47:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:WTF - 06Supermarket LED Lights Talk to Smartphone App - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:47:13] <exec> 08└─I'm suspecting that even a camera pointing down-ish will still pick up the flickering lights.
[19:47:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:More tech details? - 06Supermarket LED Lights Talk to Smartphone App - 907 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:47:15] <exec> 08└─There's a competing MUCH older system that sends an extremely low bit rate signal over fluorescent lights to shelf electronic price tags by snipping out a cycle here or there of AC. Obviously to avoid flicker and dimness complaints the baud rate has to be exceedingly slow, but timing 60 hz pulses is...
[19:47:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:More tech details? - 06Supermarket LED Lights Talk to Smartphone App - 2352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:47:17] <exec> 08└─http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li-Fi [wikipedia.org] Rather than infrared: "Visible light communications (VLC) works by switching bulbs on and off within nanoseconds,[6] which is too quickly to be noticed by the human eye. Although Li-Fi bulbs would have to be kept on to transmit data, the bulbs could...
[19:47:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02lie-flicker - 06Supermarket LED Lights Talk to Smartphone App - 774 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:47:19] <exec> 08└─The innovation offers an alternative to Bluetooth-based "beacons", which are being installed by many retailers... Many retailers, however, are investing instead in beacons - small Bluetooth 4 transmitters that allow compatible apps to work out how far away a user is standing, but not their precise p...
[19:47:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03rts008 [3001] 02Re:They probably got their answers. - 06The CIA Is Shuttering a Secretive Climate Research Program - 844 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:47:31] <exec> 08└─I'll have to admit that the gymnastics involved in using the science for military purposes while denying the science for political purposes is rather stupefying. There have been many times recently where I felt my mind shut down like an old-school pinball machine when it 'tilts', when paying attenti...
[19:48:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Propaganda works? - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:10] <exec> 08└─My point is that you can't keep information from people. Even places like East Germany and the USSR fell eventually, despite efforts to control what the population saw, heard and read. It will be the same with Islam and religion in general. Fundamentalism will die away, and sooner than you imagine....
[19:48:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Propaganda works? - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:12] <exec> 08└─And the Catholics and the Anglicans and the Presbyterians, and the Quakers and the Jehovah's witnesses, and the Jews and the Hindus and the Seikhs and the Buddhists and the athiests and the communists and the trade unionists and the capitalists and the anarchists... And your point is?
[19:48:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Social And Computer Science - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:24] <exec> 08└─The future is now. [8ch.net]
[19:50:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Thought experiment - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:50:22] <exec> 08└─communism
[19:51:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Maintenance Figured In? - 06Renewables are Disruptive to Coal and Gas - 693 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:51:23] <exec> 08└─FWIW, solar cells *do* wear out. I'm not sure how long it takes, and I'm rather sure it's different for different technologies. (I suspect that any that use dyes will wear out more quickly...but does that mean 10 years or 30?) OTOH, you don't need to replace the whole installation just because a few...
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[20:46:50] <exec> 08└─Note that Russia isn't quite Haiti. The links explain the serious issue of trickle down imperialism and all that. And yes implementing the prime directive and pretending they don't exist until they show us a working warp drive (fission reactor?) is probably the best strategy. But lets face it, most...
[20:46:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:soylent pls - 06Karl Popper and the Art of Troubleshooting - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:46:59] <exec> 08└─I don't know if it was the juxtaposition or what, but I was laughing out loud for way too long.
[20:47:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:soylent pls - 06Karl Popper and the Art of Troubleshooting - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:47:01] <exec> 08└─Sheesh, it isn't THAT difficult to remove, it only took me 3 days of work troubleshooting and rebuilding Debian packages :-) P.S.: Devuan is *not* a joke, but it is still in "alpha".
[20:47:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03redneckmother [3597] (Score:1) 02Re:WindowsITPro? - 06Karl Popper and the Art of Troubleshooting - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:47:08] <exec> 08└─I gave up trying to support closed systems long ago. Now, I tell people "I don't do windows."
[20:47:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:WindowsITPro? - 06Karl Popper and the Art of Troubleshooting - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:47:09] <exec> 08└─A Windows source talking about troubleshooting could be really good, since Windows is notorious for its problems,
[20:47:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:WindowsITPro? - 06Karl Popper and the Art of Troubleshooting - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:47:12] <exec> 08└─"Kernel panic: fatal exception" is much more expressive.
[20:47:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:WindowsITPro? - 06Karl Popper and the Art of Troubleshooting - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:47:13] <exec> 08└─but what really boggled my mind was, if the error was in fact undetectable, how did Windows know it was there?
[20:47:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Stand and deliver. - 06The CIA Is Shuttering a Secretive Climate Research Program - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:47:47] <exec> 08└─When was the last time roving bandits tried to kill then rape you?
[20:48:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Re:Propaganda works? - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 1066 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:48:25] <exec> 08└─You are aware that there are a number of white Muslims, right? If I recall correctly (and I may not be) I dimly recall reading a study/data¹ that showed the world's population of white Muslims has one of the highest growth rates percentage-wise. As a mix of brown and pasty and a practicing Buddhist...
[20:48:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Propaganda works? - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 634 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:48:26] <exec> 08└─It isn't the brown, olive, black, or sand colored people that I fear. It's the damned fool white people who have given up, and just don't give a damn. They have no pride in themselves, their ancestors, or their heritage - much less their nation and/or country. Maybe it's shame. I'm ashamed of all th...
[20:48:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Re:Propaganda works? - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:48:35] <exec> 08└─...most people couldn't name the two major Islam sects...
[20:48:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Propaganda works? - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:48:38] <exec> 08└─Amen brother.
[20:48:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Idiots - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:48:45] <exec> 08└─Did no one ever teach you how to be a Real Man? You're supposed to take it like a man! And after you've bottled it up for a few years, you get roaring drunk and smash things up, start a fight and maybe shoot at things. Thanks, Mrs Johnston (aka Johnny Bags to her pupils).
[20:48:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Science of Tweets - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 658 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:48:48] <exec> 08└─No, that was supposed to be "Silence of the Tweets", staring Anthony Hopkins and Jody Foster. And I just hate cyber-hate with a deep seated hate. But I found that hating hate only makes hate stronger. And that makes me afraid, and fear leads to running away, and Runaway1956 leads to anger, and anger...
[20:49:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:1) 02Re:Science - 06NASA's WISE Spacecraft Discovers Most Luminous Galaxy in Universe - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:49:07] <exec> 08└─Escaped inside a galaxy sized galaxy :-) In theory impossible, but maybe not for a civilization that's billions of years ahead of us. This solution requires a 300 billion (?) year wait, but that's counting in universe time.
[20:49:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:1) 02Re:Science - 06NASA's WISE Spacecraft Discovers Most Luminous Galaxy in Universe - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:49:10] <exec> 08└─I hadn't considered two or more universes at the same time (that theory came long after I first had this story idea), but that's also an interesting concept.
[20:49:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03No Respect [991] (Score:2) 02ZeroHedge? Seriously? - 06The U.S. Is About to Change the Way It Calculates GDP - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:49:42] <exec> 08└─Submissions that rely on anything posted at ZH should not be accepted here. What's next? A submission that claims the water level in Lake Meade suddenly dropped 8 feet in 36 hours after the recent Nevada earthquake?
[20:49:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:ZeroHedge? Seriously? - 06The U.S. Is About to Change the Way It Calculates GDP - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:49:44] <exec> 08└─You mean, an article about how they changed the method of determining the water level in Lake Meade, and suspiciously the water levels after employing the new method were of the same order as for the old method, which proofs that the new method was only invented to hide a change in those levels, rig...
[20:50:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Re:My experience - 06How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - 4913 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:50:28] <exec> 08└─Very true and why I specifically make it a point (I don't share that often) to point out that it is entirely luck. My project, a fairly simple thought exercise, was discussed with someone in the higher levels of the Highway Department by my professor. He, the State employee, came in and took a look...
[20:52:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:Submission Feedback - the Art of the Possible - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 912 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:52:34] <exec> 08└─Sorry, I obviously misunderstood your earlier post. However, if people are going to complain about us using the very email that they put on their submission then I fear that any effort down this route could turn out to be wasted. I like the idea of feedback being provided if wanted, but not being fo...
[20:52:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Re:Submission Feedback - the Art of the Possible - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 1790 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:52:35] <exec> 08└─The messaging system should work though I haven't read the /. code base in a LONG time. I played with it some time around five years ago - maybe as far back as ten? Anyhow, one additional thought (if you go with the messaging system), would be to include a prominent note on the main page that shows...
[20:53:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Blaming immigrants for nationalist parties? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:53:45] <exec> 08└─As well as loosing sight of the point of this site! OMG, See what Multiculturalism hath wrought? Our Soylentils cannot spell! This is what comes of mixing the races.
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[21:46:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:1, Troll) 02I first read this on Russian Times site - 06Russia Prepares to Ban Some NGOs - 654 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:51] <exec> 08└─For the most part, I think it's alright. Sure, it's open for a lot of potential abuse, but a sovereign nation has the power and the authority to limit activities that it deems harmful. Some of those NGO's are full of moonbats anyway. No, I'm not going to get into a discussion, trying to determine wh...
[21:46:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I first read this on Russian Times site - 06Russia Prepares to Ban Some NGOs - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:46:52] <exec> 08└─> No, I'm not going to get into a discussion, > none of them put Russia's interests ahead of so-called global interests Whoever modded you troll was right.
[21:46:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:I first read this on Russian Times site - 06Russia Prepares to Ban Some NGOs - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:46:54] <exec> 08└─I think we should follow their example. We could start with booting CAIR out of the US.
[21:46:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:I first read this on Russian Times site - 06Russia Prepares to Ban Some NGOs - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:46:55] <exec> 08└─I can go along with booting the UN. In recent decades, it seems all they do is attack the US. All the ills of the world were caused by the US and the rest of the industrialized western nations. Just boot their dumb asses to some place like the Congo.
[21:46:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03chucky [3309] (Score:1) 02Correct role? - 06Russia Prepares to Ban Some NGOs - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:57] <exec> 08└─What is the correct role for NGOs in the world? Fill the cracks and do what your government sucks at, even go ask the government to pay your bills from public funds. But once you do politics, you are a political party, not an NGO.
[21:46:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Bad question - 06Russia Prepares to Ban Some NGOs - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:59] <exec> 08└─What is the correct role for NGOs in the world?
[21:47:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:soylent pls - 06Karl Popper and the Art of Troubleshooting - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:47:08] <exec> 08└─P.S.: Devuan is *not* a joke, but it is still in "alpha".
[21:47:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03unzombied [4572] (Score:1) 02Art vs. Science - 06Karl Popper and the Art of Troubleshooting - 946 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:47:19] <exec> 08└─A troubleshooting old-timer has a knack for tracking down a problem's source (be it hardware, software, person, or combo) based on years of experience. To an outsider this looks like art, or even magic, but is intuition that you see in every specialty. Mechanics, doctors, lab workers, teachers, ther...
[21:48:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Re:Propaganda works? - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 416 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:48:35] <exec> 08└─I find it odd that people who are white are not allowed to be proud of it. Other races can be proud. It is like men can not mention that they have (or should have) certain rights without being sexist. If you are proud of being white you are a racist. If you are proud of being black you are an activi...
[21:48:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Rush Limbaugh has an account here? - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:48:46] <exec> 08└─So, the ends justify the means. Yes, wave that bloody shirt with righteous vigor!
[21:49:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't like the data, just alter it! - 06The U.S. Is About to Change the Way It Calculates GDP - 1152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:49:43] <exec> 08└─I spent the last two weekends working on a side project that involved wading through the published microdata for the last eight years of BLS consumer expenditures surveys. The data's complex and it has some noise in it, but overall it's well maintained and is consistent with the published figures. I...
[21:51:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Maintenance Figured In? - 06Renewables are Disruptive to Coal and Gas - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:52:00] <exec> 08└─> FWIW, solar cells *do* wear out. I'm not sure how long it takes, All modern solar panels are guaranteed to produce at least 80% of their rated capacity at 25 years of age. [energyinformative.org] Actual in the field results [nrel.gov] seem to be better than that.
[21:52:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Responsibility - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:52:25] <exec> 08└─It has been made clear that this site could fold over a meaningful legal challenge. I for one would like to see SN stay on the 'net.
[21:54:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Blaming immigrants for nationalist parties? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:54:06] <exec> 08└─Drug addict is right. You are tripping on the drug of power if you think the people with the least amount of social capital are the ones creating those isolated communities. People don't choose to live in a ghetto, they are left with no other choice.
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[22:46:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Looks like a lot of fun... - 06Hoverboard Finally Here! - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:47] <exec> 08└─After watching the video, I want one when they can make them less noisy.
[22:46:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Looks like a lot of fun... - 06Hoverboard Finally Here! - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:49] <exec> 08└─No Mattel free-energy anti-gravity hoverboard in 2015 :(
[22:46:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Looks like a lot of fun... - 06Hoverboard Finally Here! - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:51] <exec> 08└─After watching the video, I want one when they can make them less noisy.
[22:46:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Is it? - 06Hoverboard Finally Here! - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:52] <exec> 08└─Is it a hover board though? It seems more of a multiprop helo/VTOL with a passenger platform on top. Or should all helicopters now be called "hover boxes"? Yes, its technically a man carrying board that hovers, no it is not what I think of when I think "hoverboard".... And did anyone else think "Gre...
[22:46:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Is it? - 06Hoverboard Finally Here! - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:54] <exec> 08└─It's a board that a person stands on, and it hovers, ergo it is a "hoverboard". There is nothing in the word "hoverboard" which implies that anti-gravity generators or suspensors must be used for lift.
[22:46:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Typo - 06Hoverboard Finally Here! - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:55] <exec> 08└─Canadian inventor of Romanian descent Catalin Alexandru Duru
[22:46:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Progress - 06Hoverboard Finally Here! - 346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:57] <exec> 08└─Wow that is noisy! Plus it looks dangerous. Clearly we need some regulations right now! Call your legislator! Make the inventor put silencers on the fans. We need height limits, speed limits, licenses and permits! With any luck we can set this back 30 years while the automotive industry figures out...
[22:47:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02You're overloking a small detail - 06Russia Prepares to Ban Some NGOs - 460 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:03] <exec> 08└─You're overlooking some 150M people living in Russia, and what this new shit law means to *them*. Yo, immagine if shit like that passed in the US or EU: the government can ban ongs reputed "undesirable". What would that mean for people living in the US/EU? Why should it be different for the poeple l...
[22:47:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:I first read this on Russian Times site - 06Russia Prepares to Ban Some NGOs - 539 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:06] <exec> 08└─I'm something of a nationalist. Many Russians are nationalists. I can respect them for that. So - some Muslim or Muslim sympathizer mods me a troll? I should be concerned? Sorry - I'm not the least bit concerned. If my karma should fall to negative numbers because I voice my honest opinion, then so...
[22:47:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I first read this on Russian Times site - 06Russia Prepares to Ban Some NGOs - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:08] <exec> 08└─> So - some Muslim or Muslim sympathizer mods me a troll? Wow. Someone thinks that maybe not ALL NGOs in Russia are opposed to Russian interests. Must be a muslim! Your paranoia strikes deep. Into your life it will creep.
[22:47:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:I first read this on Russian Times site - 06Russia Prepares to Ban Some NGOs - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:11] <exec> 08└─I think we should follow their example. We could start with booting CAIR out of the US.
[22:47:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Correct role? - 06Russia Prepares to Ban Some NGOs - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:13] <exec> 08└─You can be political without running for office.
[22:47:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:apples and oranges - 06Karl Popper and the Art of Troubleshooting - 777 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:29] <exec> 08└─This is what I came here to say. Maybe the first year or two I used intuition to guess where the problem was, but any competent debugger quickly learns to gather data, think about it, possibly gather more data, then find and fix the problem. CSB. In the 80's a couple co-workers and I were meeting fo...
[22:47:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02Re:WindowsITPro? - 06Karl Popper and the Art of Troubleshooting - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:35] <exec> 08└─I don't know what that means, either, but reading about software finding an undetectable error has pushed me into a new state of transcendence. I am going to have to start using Windows. I didn't know it was so profoundly powerful. It's like they skipped self-aware AI and went straight to AI sunyata...
[22:47:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Art vs. Science - 06Karl Popper and the Art of Troubleshooting - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:38] <exec> 08└─16 changes at one time indicates someone who has no clue what they are doing. 1 change at a time and 1 change needed, now that is a troubleshooter.
[22:47:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:More tech details? - 06Supermarket LED Lights Talk to Smartphone App - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:55] <exec> 08└─Of course K-Mart will use flashing blue LEDs.
[22:48:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Re:Settle - 06The CIA Is Shuttering a Secretive Climate Research Program - 1968 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:48:18] <exec> 08└─A better way to measure success is to consider what we've been able to accomplish with the given resources, and compare those outcomes to what could have been achieved with a maximally efficient effort. Squandering billions of dollars to listen in on everyone's phone calls, drill students through we...
[22:48:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Settle - 06The CIA Is Shuttering a Secretive Climate Research Program - 355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:48:20] <exec> 08└─Great response. Someone always spits out some obtuse [insert truism here] response which succors pitty and in its own context sounds good, however, holds no real value to the argument. You hit the nail exactly on the head with Fallacy of relative privation which can also be coined, https://en.wikipe...
[22:48:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Propaganda works? - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 722 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:48:46] <exec> 08└─People, some dirtbag Muslims killed Lee, but we don't want you to hate Muslims, because we know some nice Muslims. Brainwashing and propaganda work well. Want to see the OTHER side of that coin? You'll have to enter a madrassa, to hear the teachers instilling hatred of the west in their students. Ei...
[22:49:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03istartedi [123] (Score:2) 02Re:Zerohedge? Really? - 06The U.S. Is About to Change the Way It Calculates GDP - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:49:58] <exec> 08└─I keep waiting for ZH to go off-line. You know that the very next day, the dollar will collapse, revolution will break out, and Obama will pull off his rubber latex mask to reveal the lizard underneath.
[22:51:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03istartedi [123] (Score:2) 02As someone who already heats with electric... - 06Heating Homes and Businesses with "Data Furnaces" - 867 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:51:56] <exec> 08└─As someone who already heats with electric, it's expensive. It doesn't work that well either. When I really want some heat in here, I start burning *wood*. Now I realize that my electric+wood approach isn't common; but in the past I had gas and wouldn't even think of using electricity. Conceptually,...
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[23:47:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is it? - 06Hoverboard Finally Here! - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:47:01] <exec> 08└─When he can land without splashing, and has enough confidence to fly it over rocky ground, I'll be impressed. When the batteries can last more than 2 minutes, I'll be very impressed.
[23:47:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Progress - 06Hoverboard Finally Here! - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:47:05] <exec> 08└─It's not just dangerous, it's a manned citizen drone! Scramble the jets!
[23:47:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Progress - 06Hoverboard Finally Here! - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:47:07] <exec> 08└─And notice that when the batteries fail, they do so abruptly, at which point, batteries, motors, and passenger go splash. The ability to attain any significant height would be dangerous over anything but water.
[23:47:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Think McFly, Think - 06Hoverboard Finally Here! - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:09] <exec> 08└─McFly you bojo - those boards don't work on water... unless you've got power!
[23:47:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:You're overloking a small detail - 06Russia Prepares to Ban Some NGOs - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:47:17] <exec> 08└─Yo, immagine if shit like that passed in the US or EU: the government can ban ongs reputed "undesirable". What would that mean for people living in the US/EU?
[23:47:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I first read this on Russian Times site - 06Russia Prepares to Ban Some NGOs - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:47:23] <exec> 08└─I'm something of a nationalist. Many Russians are nationalists. I can respect them for that.
[23:47:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I first read this on Russian Times site - 06Russia Prepares to Ban Some NGOs - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:47:26] <exec> 08└─I think we should follow their example. We could start with booting CAIR out of the US.
[23:47:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Appalbarry [66] (Score:2) 02Canada, Russia - Is There A difference? - 06Russia Prepares to Ban Some NGOs - 519 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:30] <exec> 08└─In recent years the Canadian Harper government has launched an extremely aggressive campaign [www.cbc.ca] to remove charitable status from any non-profit organization whose work might conflict with the Conservative agenda. Including Amnesty International and the United Church of Canada! It's not eve...
[23:47:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:apples and oranges - 06Karl Popper and the Art of Troubleshooting - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:47:47] <exec> 08└─A question: Is reading Popper worth the time?
[23:47:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:WindowsITPro? - 06Karl Popper and the Art of Troubleshooting - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:47:52] <exec> 08└─"Kernel panic: fatal exception" is much more expressive.
[23:48:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Settle - 06The CIA Is Shuttering a Secretive Climate Research Program - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:48:37] <exec> 08└─Our world is better than it ever has been and the trend is continuing.
[23:49:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Rush Limbaugh has an account here? - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:49:28] <exec> 08└─What evidence do you have that he is not?
[23:49:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Rush Limbaugh has an account here? - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:49:30] <exec> 08└─even weev couldn't post in realtime from prison runaway isn't weev caliber, neither in hacking nor in racism skills
[23:49:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Propaganda works? - 06Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:49:35] <exec> 08└─Boot people out of Europe for having certain religious views. Now that's freedom for you!
[23:50:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:GDP as a metric - 06The U.S. Is About to Change the Way It Calculates GDP - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:50:39] <exec> 08└─I'll give you a simpler scenario. You go dig a ditch, and then refill it, and have your buddy pay you $10. Have your buddy dig a ditch, and then refill it, and you pay him $10. Now GDP increased by $20. Yeah, (macro)econ stats are like that.
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