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[00:00:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Already common in Japan. - 06Artificial Sexuality: A Round-Table Discussion on Screwing Robots - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:00:50] <exec> 08└─What no power tools?
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[00:59:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Are there any good sources? - 06Tech Industry Execs Attend Secret Summit on Surveillance in the UK - 582 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:59:55] <exec> 08└─Let me give this word game a try. I don't think that comment should be modded Ethanol-fueled. It makes some good points. I don't know Ethanol-fueled is. I don't know Ethanol-fueled is. I don't know Ethanol-fueled is. I've heard of Ethanol-fueled before, but I don't know much about it other than Etha...
[00:59:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Do they watch me when I peepee and poopoo? - 06Tech Industry Execs Attend Secret Summit on Surveillance in the UK - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:59:58] <exec> 08└─Sadly, the parent is correct. Too bad it was modded down.
[01:00:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I think people have had enough of this. - 06Tech Industry Execs Attend Secret Summit on Surveillance in the UK - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:00:05] <exec> 08└─There are so few comments because there isn't much to talk about for this particular story. We have a closed door meeting between intelligence and industry bigwigs where the attendees haven't said anything really substantial about what was discussed. Yeah, and? Maybe later we'll hear about something...
[01:00:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I think people have had enough of this. - 06Tech Industry Execs Attend Secret Summit on Surveillance in the UK - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:00:06] <exec> 08└─It shouldn't be on the front page, being an obvious non-story and all that.
[01:00:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Book your holiday! - 06News About Pfizer's Most Popular Pill - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:00:19] <exec> 08└─South Korea is still an authoritarian shithole; it has ridiculous censorship and anti-privacy laws and the culture itself promotes authoritarianism.
[01:00:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Spam filter - 06News About Pfizer's Most Popular Pill - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:00:23] <exec> 08└─(who, I am sure, has bought a bunch of Pfizer stock in order to make Gates richer--the main reason his "charity" exists)
[01:00:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Just curious... - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:00:57] <exec> 08└─Agreed. I'd go even further. Story summaries should ideally be neutral. I don't come here for clickbait. Save the editorializing and hyperbole for the comments.
[01:01:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Kudos indeed! - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 652 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:01:07] <exec> 08└─If this site isn't supposed to be like Slashdot, then why is it so much like Slashdot? It looks almost the same (shit, it even uses the same software that used to power Slashdot). The story quality is just about as bad here as it is there. Hugh Pickens submissions are pretty much guaranteed to end u...
[01:01:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Serial apologist for Redmond spotted once again - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 2 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:01:13] <exec> 08└─M$
[01:01:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Serial apologist for Redmond spotted once again - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:01:15] <exec> 08└─All I see out of you is anger. It can't be healthy for somebody to constantly be so angry.
[01:01:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:So the article says threat - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:01:23] <exec> 08└─The inquirer also states some thing long the same line. Microsoft bullied MPs over government switch to open source standards [theinquirer.net]. MICROSOFT reportedly threatened to move its research facilities out of the UK if the government went ahead with plans to promote open source standards.
[01:01:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Wrong problem - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 106 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:01:33] <exec> 08└─I've seen the quality of journalism from people who use their real names; it does not improve the quality.
[01:01:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02mixed - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 801 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:01:35] <exec> 08└─The headline is not sacred. Expect changes to the headline. Original submission: Microsoft blackmailed the UK over open standards. sigma writes: When the UK government announced plans to shift to the .odf Open Document Format, and away from Microsoft's proprietary .doc and .docx formats, Microsoft t...
[01:01:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:You can lose a trademark if you don't enforce i - 06Grand Theft Auto Parent Company Sues BBC - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:01:47] <exec> 08└─I rather suspect there is some dirty laundry in that wash basket that the plaintiffs are trying to keep under cover, rather than any real objections over free advertising.
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[02:00:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Time to treatment? - 06Scientists Unveil Prostrate Cancer's "Rosetta Stone" - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:00:03] <exec> 08└─Any qualified guesses as to when this will translate into actual treatment? Some patients life may depend on this so time is of the essence.
[02:00:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Time to treatment? - 06Scientists Unveil Prostrate Cancer's "Rosetta Stone" - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:00:04] <exec> 08└─Don't worry. You'll die before your insurance pays for your treatment.
[02:00:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Time to treatment? - 06Scientists Unveil Prostrate Cancer's "Rosetta Stone" - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:00:06] <exec> 08└─Don't worry, not all countries have a fucked up health care (care?) system.. :P
[02:00:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Time to treatment? - 06Scientists Unveil Prostrate Cancer's "Rosetta Stone" - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:00:07] <exec> 08└─Not everybody has a prostate, either.
[02:00:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What do they mean? - 06Scientists Unveil Prostrate Cancer's "Rosetta Stone" - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:00:09] <exec> 08└─When the summary says "lethal prostate cancers that have spread around the body" does it mean that the cancers spread from the prostate to the scrotum and testes?
[02:00:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Do they watch me when I peepee and poopoo? - 06Tech Industry Execs Attend Secret Summit on Surveillance in the UK - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:00:27] <exec> 08└─I can't say, but I suspect they [soylentnews.org] probably [soylentnews.org] do [soylentnews.org] notice [soylentnews.org] when [soylentnews.org] you [soylentnews.org] talk [soylentnews.org] to [soylentnews.org] yourself [soylentnews.org]
[02:00:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Do they watch me when I peepee and poopoo? - 06Tech Industry Execs Attend Secret Summit on Surveillance in the UK - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:00:28] <exec> 08└─Hi, janrinok!
[02:00:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I think people have had enough of this. - 06Tech Industry Execs Attend Secret Summit on Surveillance in the UK - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:00:34] <exec> 08└─> I modded you -1, Disagree. There is no such thing. Only +0 Disagree.
[02:00:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I think people have had enough of this. - 06Tech Industry Execs Attend Secret Summit on Surveillance in the UK - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:00:35] <exec> 08└─You know what he meant.
[02:00:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I think people have had enough of this. - 06Tech Industry Execs Attend Secret Summit on Surveillance in the UK - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:00:38] <exec> 08└─Mass surveillance violates people's fundamental liberties, and in many places, is illegal. Illegal surveillance that violates people's liberties is something we should all be talking about. Few other issues are as important as this.
[02:00:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Surveillance, Schmurvaillance - 06Tech Industry Execs Attend Secret Summit on Surveillance in the UK - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:00:40] <exec> 08└─The real issue is that everyone's just gone ahead and accepted System D. Oh sure, everyone pissed and moaned for a few months, but now it's just accepted. What the hell happened? Am I the last person on earth who gives a shit about ANYTHING?
[02:00:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Surveillance, Schmurvaillance - 06Tech Industry Execs Attend Secret Summit on Surveillance in the UK - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:00:42] <exec> 08└─I started using FreeBSD, and I couldn't be happier. Since I don't use Linux any longer, why the fuck would I care about malware that only affects Linux?
[02:00:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Talk is cheap - 06Tech Industry Execs Attend Secret Summit on Surveillance in the UK - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:00:43] <exec> 08└─I'll believe this translucency when it becomes actual action. Press releases have no bearing, law is ignored etc.. But action speaks volumes. Otoh, watch out for the reversal in the next step.. Don't believe that it last forever. But it might.
[02:00:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Governments STAY OUT of netizen's private lives - 06Tech Industry Execs Attend Secret Summit on Surveillance in the UK - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:00:45] <exec> 08└─That's OUR f***g business model! (signed) Google Apple Microsoft Samsung telecoms
[02:00:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02we can wait... - 06Tech Industry Execs Attend Secret Summit on Surveillance in the UK - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:00:47] <exec> 08└─...but the writing is on the wall. Everyone should use secure comms, and if the govt wants to read your mail, get a warrant. Even in shill democracies like the UK, they can implement some decent reforms. But secret meetings don't mean anything. The agenda is set before, and the meeting is only held...
[02:01:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Gates' fanboys are so clueless - 06News About Pfizer's Most Popular Pill - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:03] <exec> 08└─2012 [google.com] 2013 [google.com] 2014 [google.com] If Gates was "giving away" money, his income would flatten a bit--rather than continue to grow geometrically. His "charity" invests in privatized prisons. All that Gates knows is making profit. His "philanthropy" is simply a tax dodge. -- gewg_
[02:01:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Gates' fanboys are so clueless - 06News About Pfizer's Most Popular Pill - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:04] <exec> 08└─Please provide the evidence, or apologize.
[02:01:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:1) 02Re:Spam filter - 06News About Pfizer's Most Popular Pill - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:05] <exec> 08└─Like you, I had a problem with the name of the pharmaceutical. The headline reflects my attempt to get the story into the queue.
[02:01:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Just curious... - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 738 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:47] <exec> 08└─It's not the same thing. Anything submitted is posted with a banner that starts 'Submitter writes...'. It's therefore assumed that anything that follows, unless it's an explicit quote, is from the submitter. It would be equally bad if the submitter then said 'Some article says...' followed by someth...
[02:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Kudos indeed! - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:59] <exec> 08└─Go home, Timothy.
[02:02:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Another apologist for Redmond spotted - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:06] <exec> 08└─That's all you've got?? It sounds like you're claiming that M$ -has- cleaned up its act and is no longer a win-at-any-cost operation worthy of the moniker. M$ still up to its old dirty tricks [techrights.org] ...and, of course, there's the topic of this page. -- gewg_
[02:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Another apologist for Redmond spotted - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:07] <exec> 08└─Can you provide a link to a reputable source? Maybe Pravda?
[02:02:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Serial apologist for Redmond spotted once again - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:09] <exec> 08└─A leopard cannot change its spots.
[02:02:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Serial apologist for Redmond spotted once again - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:10] <exec> 08└─Why would I type 9 characters when 2 will do. Everyone recognizes the short form (because it represents truth). Will I give an unrepentant convicted criminal organization a break? Don't hold your breath. -- gewg_
[02:02:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Serial apologist for Redmond spotted once again - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:12] <exec> 08└─It's spelled: "Microsoft"
[02:07:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Because - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:34] <exec> 08└─When we first started dating i wasn't going to dump her because she wasn't sure if she wanted kids or not. She might still change her mind (i hope so). But i married her because we get along so well (still do). Getting married has nothing to do with sex or a perfect significant other, imo. For me it...
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[03:00:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Time to treatment? - 06Scientists Unveil Prostrate Cancer's "Rosetta Stone" - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:00:53] <exec> 08└─Female prostate [wikipedia.org]
[03:00:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:Time to treatment? - 06Scientists Unveil Prostrate Cancer's "Rosetta Stone" - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:00:54] <exec> 08└─there have been some treatments available for sometime, thought not widespread. This offers possible opportunity to have a more specific test than the PSA, which is prone to false +ves.
[03:00:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Everyone seems to be confused... - 06Scientists Unveil Prostrate Cancer's "Rosetta Stone" - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:00:56] <exec> 08└─This cancer is really easy to beat anyways, because it's already lying down.
[03:01:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Do they watch me when I peepee and poopoo? - 06Tech Industry Execs Attend Secret Summit on Surveillance in the UK - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:14] <exec> 08└─Nice try. But still wrong.
[03:01:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:we can wait... - 06Tech Industry Execs Attend Secret Summit on Surveillance in the UK - 822 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:30] <exec> 08└─And the public asks: "did you do something good?", they answer: "yes, we did something good", whatever the F they did. Illegal activities had been running for a long time (and continue at double pace now), and to calm the public they come up with "cold winds of transparency have arrived and are here...
[03:02:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03sigma [1225] (Score:2) 02Re:Just curious... - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 516 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:26] <exec> 08└─Nobody's lawyers called, but SN editors are concerned that they may do, and that SN does not have the resources to respond to them. Personally, I stand by my characterisation of Microsoft's behavior as blackmail [wikipedia.org]. Janrinok's "apology" has also confirmed that this is not a site I shoul...
[03:02:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Serial apologist for Redmond spotted once again - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:55] <exec> 08└─Why would I type 9 characters when 2 will do. Everyone recognizes the short form (because it represents truth).
[03:02:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Nerdfest [80] 02Re:IMO Apology not needed - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 332 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:57] <exec> 08└─The word "blackmail" was accurate, although the word "extortion" might have been better. Someone said the the "allegedly" should have been used, but I disagree; I think the only addition worthwhile might be "attempted". Having this posted on the site makes it look like Microsoft are innocent of this...
[03:02:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Appalbarry [66] 02Re:So? - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 939 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:03:00] <exec> 08└─Bloomberg says yes. [bloomberg.com] I somehow doubt that they got a lawyer letter. And yeah, I'd characterize it as "blackmail." Microsoft Corp. threatened to close its research facilities in Britain if the government went ahead with plans to promote open-source software, one of David Cameron’s fo...
[03:04:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Oblig Futurama - 06Artificial Sexuality: A Round-Table Discussion on Screwing Robots - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:04:18] <exec> 08└─From a purely self gratifying point of view I would like someone to justify my repeated watching of Futurama beyond the base "I find it amusing".
[03:05:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Designed lifespan - 06Why We Should Let the Pantheon Crack - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:05:15] <exec> 08└─A modern take of the roman version. http://www.reddit.com [reddit.com]
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[04:00:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02raising kids - 06Cute or Creepy? Google's Plan for a Sci-Fi Teddy Bear - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:00:00] <exec> 08└─It's not creepy if it acts as your BFF and parent.
[04:00:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02featured in Dreamfall - 06Cute or Creepy? Google's Plan for a Sci-Fi Teddy Bear - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:00:01] <exec> 08└─Wonkers the Watilla was creepy as hell. http://tlj.wikia.com [wikia.com] http://tlj.wikia.com [wikia.com] http://www.theaveragegamer.com [theaveragegamer.com]
[04:00:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03morgauxo [2082] (Score:2) 02Re:Time to treatment? - 06Scientists Unveil Prostrate Cancer's "Rosetta Stone" - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:00:15] <exec> 08└─But it's not ethical to hurry something to treatment. Someone might die from it.
[04:01:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Just curious... - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:01:49] <exec> 08└─Anything submitted is posted with a banner that starts 'Submitter writes...'. It's therefore assumed that anything that follows, unless it's an explicit quote, is from the submitter.
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[04:59:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03GDX [1950] (Score:1) 02Also featured in The Simpsons - 06Cute or Creepy? Google's Plan for a Sci-Fi Teddy Bear - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:59:31] <exec> 08└─http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Funzo [wikia.com] Though I think that is going to be like a Furby on steroids.
[04:59:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Everyone seems to be confused... - 06Scientists Unveil Prostrate Cancer's "Rosetta Stone" - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:59:49] <exec> 08└─Because the title says "prostrate", thus the "already lying down" joke, see.
[04:59:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02It's "Prostate" - 06Scientists Unveil Prostrate Cancer's "Rosetta Stone" - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:59:49] <exec> 08└─Not "Prostrate"
[05:01:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03sigma [1225] (Score:2) 02Re:Just curious... - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 1588 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:01:15] <exec> 08└─Sigma again. I posted above in some haste, and realise it's probably not the most helpful comment, as well as being unfair to Janrinok, so I'd like to clarify before finding somewhere else to haunt. Firstly, I don't object to the editors changing content to protect SN from legal consequences. That's...
[05:01:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:Just curious... - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:01:23] <exec> 08└─Good point. tl;dr: "We fucked up; sorry; fixed." Speaking as a reader/commenter -- apology accepted. And it takes some balls to admit a screwup given the community's not-always-friendly elements.
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[05:04:56] <exec> 08└─Because mercenaries are scum.
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[05:59:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Holy Shit! A solar powered bus. - 06British Poo-Powered Bus Sets Speed Record - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:59:16] <exec> 08└─Manure <- Cow <- Grass <- Sun
[05:59:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Holy Shit! A solar powered bus. - 06British Poo-Powered Bus Sets Speed Record - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:59:17] <exec> 08└─Oil <- Dino <- Grass <- Sun
[05:59:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Great plan - 06Cute or Creepy? Google's Plan for a Sci-Fi Teddy Bear - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:59:28] <exec> 08└─It will be like this [wordpress.com].
[05:59:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Great plan - 06Cute or Creepy? Google's Plan for a Sci-Fi Teddy Bear - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:59:30] <exec> 08└─Oh, fuck me, someone did make it. [shopbizshop.com] Did they not watch the fucking movie before deciding they could try to merchandise it? (Moichindising! Where the real money from the movie is made.)
[05:59:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's "Prostate" - 06Scientists Unveil Prostate Cancer's "Rosetta Stone" - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:59:53] <exec> 08└─Butt spill Czech sad its prostrate.
[06:00:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:Gates' fanboys are so clueless - 06News About Pfizer's Most Popular Pill - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:00:48] <exec> 08└─Why should he apologize for his opinion? Because you don't like it? Get over yourself. It wasn't offered as fact, so no citation needed.
[06:00:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Perfect - 06News About Pfizer's Most Popular Pill - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:00:53] <exec> 08└─How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Cock [orgasmicdiscourses.com]
[06:01:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03vux984 [5045] 02Re:Just curious... - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 160 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:01:25] <exec> 08└─Agreed. I'd go even further. Story summaries should ideally be neutral. I don't come here for clickbait. Save the editorializing and hyperbole for the comments.
[06:01:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Serial apologist for Redmond spotted once again - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:01:54] <exec> 08└─Why would I type 9 characters when 2 will do.
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[06:59:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Land speed record? - 06British Poo-Powered Bus Sets Speed Record - 908 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:59:36] <exec> 08└─Sorry, I just don't quite buy the claim that buses haven't been recorded driving faster than ~80 mph. Regular service bus? Does Greyhound qualify as "regular service"? Granted, MOST Greyhounds run pretty slow, often failing to keep to their time schedules. More, most Greyhound drivers observe the la...
[06:59:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:2) 02Re:Land speed record? - 06British Poo-Powered Bus Sets Speed Record - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:38] <exec> 08└─Huh? The miles are the same it is the trade good measures like for instance gallons that the Americans messed with to restrict the trading between the two that are different.
[06:59:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Sounds like a Vulcan bomber, not smells like one. - 06British Poo-Powered Bus Sets Speed Record - 989 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:59:40] <exec> 08└─I wonder if California will be the first state to implement Emission Standards and regulations on Bovine Bio-gas Producers(the cows)? The producers are mobile, and hard to track down in some terrain for periodic regulatory testing and inspection, not to mention some of them are not overly cooperativ...
[06:59:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:raising kids - 06Cute or Creepy? Google's Plan for a Sci-Fi Teddy Bear - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:48] <exec> 08└─I don't know...seems pretty creepy to me. But then, to me a lot of the things Google is doing the last year or so are getting pretty creepy.
[06:59:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Son of Teddy Ruxpin - 06Cute or Creepy? Google's Plan for a Sci-Fi Teddy Bear - 401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:59:53] <exec> 08└─This sure smacks of Teddy Ruxpin [wikipedia.org] upgraded to the latest technology. Here's a 30-second advertisement for Teddy in case you do not remember him. [youtube.com] I wonder if the inventors of Teddy Ruxpin get royalties for this? Or is there some loophole in patent law that allows someon...
[07:00:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Time to treatment? - 06Scientists Unveil Prostate Cancer's "Rosetta Stone" - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:00:07] <exec> 08└─Considering that people may die from the disease and lack of treatment. Sometimes one doesn't have a choice.
[07:00:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What do they mean? - 06Scientists Unveil Prostate Cancer's "Rosetta Stone" - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:00:09] <exec> 08└─Given time many cancers can be carried by the blood to other organs, which they then spread into. You can have a kidney originated cancer in your lung, or vice versa. In general, once the cancer has spread to multiple organs the death rate rapidly increases.
[07:00:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02Its fantastic! - 06Scientists Unveil Prostate Cancer's "Rosetta Stone" - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:00:14] <exec> 08└─Scientists Unveil Prostate Cancer's "Rosetta Stone"
[07:01:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Spam filter - 06News About Pfizer's Most Popular Pill - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:16] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I left it there thinking that an editor wouldn't have the big, aggressive defender to deal with and would kick it through the uprights. Things worked out as well as I could have anticipated, so I'm pretty much pleased. -- gewg_
[07:01:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02I would be sorry to see you go - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:50] <exec> 08└─I would be sorry to see you go, and I rather hope that you will reconsider your decision. Whatever you decide however, I hope that we can continue with no ill-feeling towards each other. I don't believe for one minute that any of this was at a personal level. Good luck, and if you do leave SN I hope...
[07:01:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just curious... - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:55] <exec> 08└─The video showed Brown paying in cash. Whatever happened with the altercation the store employee decided not to call the cops over it. It was one of the patrons in the store that did. Fox News has a discussion forum, maybe you'd be happier there.
[07:01:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just curious... - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 1222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:56] <exec> 08└─To those of you just tuning in: Back when the Michael Brown story first broke on SN the above AC was correctly labeled as a bigot. Basically his position was that the victim deserved death and his evidence was that he has seen too many movies in the 90's. This individual never disputed the details p...
[07:02:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Kudos indeed! - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:12] <exec> 08└─You're showing symptoms of sour-grape poisoning.
[07:02:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score:2) 02M$ appeasement does not work, does not look good - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:13] <exec> 08└─The correct word would have been "extortion". Or if you needed to cage it, "apparent extortion" or "alleged extortion". Because what ended up being written was, what sigma pointed out to be "apologist twaddle [soylentnews.org]". I'm sure that everyone tries to avoid twaddle in general. And there ar...
[07:05:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ubuntu! - 06Africa's Worst New Internet Censorship Law Could be Coming to South Africa - 959 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:20] <exec> 08└─Oh hello - you finally got it Mr West. 30 years ago S.Africa was the evil empire, but every black person had a home, access to schools, medical care and a job, or reasonable prospects for one. Then it was decided the UN and the West knew better than gradually raising the people in education and econ...
[07:07:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Noble713 [4895] (Score:1) 02Re:Because - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:40] <exec> 08└─Getting married has nothing to do with sex or a perfect significant other, imo. For me it is about trust and companionship.
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[07:59:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Let's all switch to IPv6! - 06UK Selling Off Unused IPv4 Addresses - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:59:44] <exec> 08└─Twenty years of failed deployment should be enough failure for any failed project.
[07:59:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Land speed record? - 06British Poo-Powered Bus Sets Speed Record - 1952 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:59:57] <exec> 08└─Hence, my final question: "Reading bus didn't diddle with the numbers, did they?" For information, I ride a rather ancient motorcycle, a Honda GL 500 Interstate. That twisted twin engine is somewhat famous among motorcycle riders, partly for the sweet sound it produces, partly for it's relatively hi...
[07:59:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score:1) 02Re:Land speed record? - 06British Poo-Powered Bus Sets Speed Record - 611 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:59:57] <exec> 08└─A Greyhound is what we call a coach. It is designed for long distance travel - and in the UK would probably be licensed to go at 60MPH. I am sure that they are designed to be capable of exceeding 70MPH, although the fuel consumption at that speed might be scary when you pay $12 a gallon for diesel (...
[07:59:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Land speed record? - 06British Poo-Powered Bus Sets Speed Record - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:59:58] <exec> 08└─Good answer - thanks!
[08:00:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Speaking of Vulcan bombers... - 06British Poo-Powered Bus Sets Speed Record - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:00:01] <exec> 08└─I saw an item the other week that mentioned that the last airworthy example will be grounded by the end of this year. 2015: Final flying season for last Vulcan bomber [wikipedia.org] Announced 2015/05/15. -- gewg_
[08:00:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02One of the least-deadly cancers - 06Scientists Unveil Prostate Cancer's "Rosetta Stone" - 445 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:00:34] <exec> 08└─Years ago, when I listened to Dean Edell, MD on the radio, he mentioned several times that the percentage of men who die -with- prostate cancer is surprisingly high. The percentage of men who die -OF- prostate cancer is very low. It's not an especially aggressive ailment. Many guys who have it don't...
[08:00:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:Are there any good sources? - 06Tech Industry Execs Attend Secret Summit on Surveillance in the UK - 951 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:00:55] <exec> 08└─You are replying to your own posts again - but at least you have dropped the pretence of being a different AC. The moderation of your story is a reflection of what members of the community think, the fact that it suffered initially might be due to your previous posting history. I suspect that there...
[08:00:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:Do they watch me when I peepee and poopoo? - 06Tech Industry Execs Attend Secret Summit on Surveillance in the UK - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:01:00] <exec> 08└─You are talking to yourself again....
[08:01:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:Do they watch me when I peepee and poopoo? - 06Tech Industry Execs Attend Secret Summit on Surveillance in the UK - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:01:04] <exec> 08└─I don't post as AC, unless I annotate my comment with my username. Why should I hide, I'm meant to be approachable :)
[08:01:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:I think people have had enough of this. - 06Tech Industry Execs Attend Secret Summit on Surveillance in the UK - 574 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:01:13] <exec> 08└─For most people this story was posted on a Saturday evening or Sunday morning. You'd be amazed at just how many people have lives outside of their basements. The comment count is about right for the time of day/week. More importantly, the story is significant because it indicates an acceptance by th...
[08:02:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02It was not appeasement - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 819 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:02:50] <exec> 08└─I put great value in honesty - what was published was incorrect and unnecessarily inflammatory. My apology was necessary because of that, and that alone. Some may think it unfortunate that it had to happen with a company such as Microsoft but, as I have mentioned elsewhere, it is not SN's role to su...
[08:05:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ubuntu! - 06Africa's Worst New Internet Censorship Law Could be Coming to South Africa - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:05:56] <exec> 08└─...and here come the above mentioned idiots who heard from Daddy that Apartheid was so much better than the ANC. Taking us from the frying pan right back into the fire. Do yourself a favour and ask your maid what it was like to starve.
[08:08:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:This is a good example - 06Chechen Leader Calls for Wives to Stop Using WhatsApp - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:08:39] <exec> 08└─The question of whether interference is justifiable becomes a lot easier to answer when the issue being discussed is people being killed.
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[08:59:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Let's all switch to IPv6! - 06UK Selling Off Unused IPv4 Addresses - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:59:58] <exec> 08└─Twenty years of failed deployment should be enough failure for any failed project.
[08:59:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Let's all switch to IPv6! - 06UK Selling Off Unused IPv4 Addresses - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:59:59] <exec> 08└─Going backward, all those wasted years spent implementing dual-stack IPv6 networking stacks are years we'll never ever get back again.
[09:00:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:raising kids - 06Cute or Creepy? Google's Plan for a Sci-Fi Teddy Bear - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:00:27] <exec> 08└─Yeah, building those homicidal AI sex dolls was a pretty creepy move, even for Google.
[09:00:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score:2) 02Been done before. - 06Cute or Creepy? Google's Plan for a Sci-Fi Teddy Bear - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:00:33] <exec> 08└─"I always do what Teddy says" - Harry Harrison.
[09:03:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score:1) 02It looks like appeasement - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 1183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:03:00] <exec> 08└─Don't worry. In the larger picture it might not be a big deal, but only if the future "balance" is not faked. The editing here has been mostly quite good. However, the word you were both probably looking for was "extortion" It's not a new activity for M$. In any given situation there it often very l...
[09:04:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sex dolls, of course people will make use of it - 06Artificial Sexuality: A Round-Table Discussion on Screwing Robots - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:04:08] <exec> 08└─enable a "real" intelligence
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[10:00:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Scarcity - 06UK Selling Off Unused IPv4 Addresses - 730 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:00:02] <exec> 08└─Typical. Ipv4 addresses are becoming scarce. Instead of fixing the resource scarcity by switching to Ipv6 like should have been done a decade ago, we'll just keep on the old system for as long as possible, and make the inevitable transition even harder. In doing so we'll also create a brand new mark...
[10:00:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Scarcity - 06UK Selling Off Unused IPv4 Addresses - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:00:03] <exec> 08└─You can switch to IPv6 right now. You won't be on the Internet anymore, but in your isolation you can be smug about your superiority over the common folk. Bye bye now.
[10:00:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03cafebabe [894] (Score:2) 02Re:Son of Teddy Ruxpin - 06Cute or Creepy? Google's Plan for a Sci-Fi Teddy Bear - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:00:35] <exec> 08└─Someone else mentioned Teddy Ruxpin in the discussion about sexbots [soylentnews.org]. Is Google sure it wants to get into this market?
[10:00:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Type IV? - 06Cute or Creepy? Google's Plan for a Sci-Fi Teddy Bear - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:00:37] <exec> 08└─Philip K. Dick. Screamers Do not take the teddy bear back with you.
[10:00:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:One of the least-deadly cancers - 06Scientists Unveil Prostate Cancer's "Rosetta Stone" - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:00:56] <exec> 08└─Your boyfriend's prostate cancer can't spread to your penis, but his HIV can.
[10:01:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Data Entry errors - 06Scientists Unveil Prostate Cancer's "Rosetta Stone" - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:01:04] <exec> 08└─If you look at supplementary table 3 it has a list of all the gene mutations. This list includes the "genes": "3/1/2015", "9/11/2015", and "9/12/2015". I'd send it back until they figure out how that happened.
[10:03:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Serial apologist for Redmond spotted once again - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:03:22] <exec> 08└─All I see out of you is anger. It can't be healthy for somebody to constantly be so angry. Even Bruce Banner?
[10:04:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Links - 06Artificial Sexuality: A Round-Table Discussion on Screwing Robots - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:04:32] <exec> 08└─LINKS!! Where are the LINKS!!
[10:05:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Why Doom? - 06The First First-Person Shooter - 454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:05:59] <exec> 08└─Need I remind you that both Exorex and Dactly Nightmare were 3D first person shooting VR Games that existed before Doom? Yes, I think I do. And for that matter, Starglider and Starglider 2 were both First Person Shooters, the former wire-frame and the latter fully 3D (flat shaded) created years befo...
[10:06:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Ubuntu! - 06Africa's Worst New Internet Censorship Law Could be Coming to South Africa - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:06:25] <exec> 08└─www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxEweP2TiMk
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[11:01:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Saving Money? - 06Austerity Trumps CCTV Surveillance in Some UK Councils - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:01:01] <exec> 08└─How does "turning off" a camera save any significant amount of money? I would have thought the cost of a CCTV camera was almost all in its purchase, setting it up, and the cabling. Electricty consumption must be insignificant by comparison. The vast majority are not watched live, so no employment co...
[11:01:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03ticho [89] (Score:2) 02Re:Scarcity - 06UK Selling Off Unused IPv4 Addresses - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:01:14] <exec> 08└─Google is on v6, Farcebook is on v6, what more do 90% of the Internet users need?
[11:01:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02IPv4 is the old 1337ness - 06UK Selling Off Unused IPv4 Addresses - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:01:15] <exec> 08└─OK new plan. Let's move the unwashed masses over to IPv6, and all we 1337-d00dz can stay on IPv4. We'll be the elite minority by using the old protocols instead, and since there are so few really smart people, 32-bit addressing will more than enough for all of us! It's brilliant.
[11:01:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Scarcity - 06UK Selling Off Unused IPv4 Addresses - 1155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:01:16] <exec> 08└─Did I ever in any way suggest I was superior to the common folk, or that I am not myself part of the common folk? I do not think I did. Please do not put words into my mouth. I was simply calling out a problem and lamenting the fact that nothing serious is being done to address it by those with the...
[11:01:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03That_Dude [2503] (Score:2) 02Me needs more details.. - 06British Poo-Powered Bus Sets Speed Record - 574 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:01:39] <exec> 08└─I'm more curious about the quality of the biomethane. Anaerobic digester output is typically 60% to 70% methane with the rest mostly being carbon dioxide. Unless the Bus Hound's engine is designed to cope with the dirty gas, the biomethane had to have been processed. I looked at the Reading Bus site...
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[11:03:00] <exec> 08└─I'm with you, but you wait--they're already talking about porting system d over to the BSDs. Then what? Also, note that I got modded -1 Offtopic. I expected as much.
[11:08:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Open Standards for Nationalism - 06Microsoft Threatened the UK Over Open Standards - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:08:44] <exec> 08└─Why "UKians"? It's British -- plain and simple.
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[11:59:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Saving Money? - 06Austerity Trumps CCTV Surveillance in Some UK Councils - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:59:34] <exec> 08└─Wots dat? Teh savigs unsignficnt? Woll than, camras goin bak ons mmedtly. Oooray fo Bg Brotha! Thanx, Nuke.
[11:59:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:Saving Money? - 06Austerity Trumps CCTV Surveillance in Some UK Councils - 916 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:59:35] <exec> 08└─There is the CapEx vs OpEx angle - the savings from a shutdown would all be OpEx where as the CapEx would have been spent some time ago, and presumably from a pre-approved budget - given enough cameras, the power, maintenance and other running costs might add up to something worthwhile. Other than...
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[11:59:51] <exec> 08└─Hey, need a tampon?
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[12:58:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Bah... - 06Tara Oceans Team Completes Study of World's Plankton - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:58:34] <exec> 08└─... do you take me for a whale?
[12:58:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Doing it wrong - 06Austerity Trumps CCTV Surveillance in Some UK Councils - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:58:45] <exec> 08└─Switching CCTV-es off to save money? Good God, where's this world going, violating the privacy doesn't pay anymore?... I still remember the good old times when a honest mobster could get good advantages for, say, some little discretion [wikipedia.org]. Did they forget how to do it or is recession so...
[12:58:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Love the alarmism - 06Austerity Trumps CCTV Surveillance in Some UK Councils - 572 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:58:46] <exec> 08└─"Oh my God - turning off CCTV's may lead to a CRIME WAVE!" Well, that's the public excuse for being alarmed, anyway. Actually, if the councils are saving money to the tune of 1/4 million pounds each, that means that some particular businesses are suddenly not getting that income. OH! HORRORS!! ECONO...
[12:59:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Scarcity - 06UK Selling Off Unused IPv4 Addresses - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:02] <exec> 08└─You won't be on the Internet anymore, but in your isolation you can be smug about your superiority over the common folk.
[12:59:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02What were they being used for? - 06UK Selling Off Unused IPv4 Addresses - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:59:03] <exec> 08└─I understand that it was normal in the early days to assign "external" IP addresses even to internal printers. This is not just a government thing; companies that were early in the IT business, like IBM, Microsoft and Novell, got huge allocations.
[12:59:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:Land speed record? - 06British Poo-Powered Bus Sets Speed Record - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:19] <exec> 08└─So it is a "record" for something that normally goes slower, even though this "record" is slower than things that normally go faster. Right.
[12:59:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:Land speed record? - 06British Poo-Powered Bus Sets Speed Record - 595 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:20] <exec> 08└─I must say I was disappointed when I followed the link. I live in the UK, and the vast majority of buses on urban services here are full cuboid double-deckers. That is what is meant by "bus" in general usage. 76mph would have been impressive for one of those. The link however shows what looks like...
[12:59:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:2) 02Shamelessly taken from an Ars Technica Comment - 06British Poo-Powered Bus Sets Speed Record - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:59:24] <exec> 08└─Saw this in one of the comments to the Ars Technica article: Can I just say that if no-one has seen the Bristol poo-bus, its worth having a look at the paint scheme: https://rjamadon.files.wordpress.com [wordpress.com]
[12:59:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Time to treatment? - 06Scientists Unveil Prostate Cancer's "Rosetta Stone" - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:59:55] <exec> 08└─Don't worry. You'll die before your insurance pays for your treatment.
[13:01:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Book your holiday! - 06News About Pfizer's Most Popular Pill - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:03] <exec> 08└─So its like the US?
[13:01:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:NCommander!!! - 06News About Pfizer's Most Popular Pill - 391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:19] <exec> 08└─Since when is a small penis a handicap? And what even counts as a "small penis"? Despite what people tell their girlfriends, the average is only about 5.5 inches but women don't give a shit [medicalnewstoday.com] (unless you have a micropenis [wikipedia.org] and can't even get past the labia), its o...
[13:01:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03DNied [3409] (Score:2) 02Re:Just curious... - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:50] <exec> 08└─somewhere that'll welcome an aging leftwing hippy nerd freetard and his Fossie foolishness.
[13:01:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just curious... - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:56] <exec> 08└─The "video" playing in your head is not actually a video of what actually happened.
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[13:58:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03ticho [89] (Score:2) 02Re:Scarcity - 06UK Selling Off Unused IPv4 Addresses - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:58:57] <exec> 08└─Wait, you can download beer? THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING.
[13:59:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Land speed record? - 06British Poo-Powered Bus Sets Speed Record - 542 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:59:15] <exec> 08└─Ah-ha. Those famous red double deckers. Yep - following one of those at 90 mph would be awfully impressive. Scary, actually. I think you've nailed it - Reading is comparing Red Delicious apples to Granny Smith apples. They're all apples, so no one questions why one is big, plump, and red, while the...
[14:01:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just curious... - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:01:41] <exec> 08└─So good luck to you all, I'm off to find somewhere that'll welcome an aging leftwing hippy nerd freetard and his Fossie foolishness. Take care guys!
[14:03:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:what will happen to women? - 06Artificial Sexuality: A Round-Table Discussion on Screwing Robots - 537 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:03:35] <exec> 08└─Personality and attractiveness are not inversely proportional. In reality, they're not related in any way. There are plenty of beautiful women with beautiful personalities, but they're never single because they're so great. What you're left with after all the good women get snatched up is all the ug...
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[14:58:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03n1 [993] (Score:2) 02More information - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 1162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:58:28] <exec> 08└─The Wall Street Journal reports [wsj.com]: Navinder Singh Sarao, the trader arrested last month on U.S. charges he manipulated futures prices and contributed to the May 2010 “flash crash,” leveled claims of similar misconduct against other traders before his arrest. Mr. Sarao complained to the...
[14:58:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02... - 06Tara Oceans Team Completes Study of World's Plankton - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:58:36] <exec> 08└─"Victory! My name is Plankton!"
[14:58:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Surveillance Camera Commissioner - 06Austerity Trumps CCTV Surveillance in Some UK Councils - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:58:49] <exec> 08└─If you have a "Surveillance Camera Commissioner", you've gone too far... you've been too busy asking whether it could be done instead of asking whether it should be done.
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[15:58:31] <exec> 08└─The orders would be placed and withdrawn in rapid succession using a customised computer programme
[15:58:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03n1 [993] (Score:2) 02Re:Where's the crime? - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:58:32] <exec> 08└─I can only assume HFT is illegal, unless you're in the club of 'large financial institutions and their partners', then it's stimulating the economy and creating liquidity, helping the stock market and therefor the economy to reach all new highs. Much like how insider trading is illegal, unless you'r...
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[15:58:33] <exec> 08└─Just to add to my previous comment: Tim Worstall [forbes.com] says: The HFT guys are making money, yes indeed they are. But they’re making money in much smaller sums than the general investors in aggregate are saving through the collapse in spreads as a result of the extra liquidity. HFT, at least...
[15:58:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Where's the crime? - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:58:35] <exec> 08└─Is there some technical difference here that I'm missing
[15:58:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03n1 [993] (Score:2) 02Re:Where's the crime? - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 395 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:58:37] <exec> 08└─From one of the ZeroHedge links [zerohedge.com] I posted above: As you can see the vast, vast majority of ES contracts just before lunch today was cancelled without ever resulting in a single trade. And, we are confident, since Mr. Sarao is currently either in custody or on bail, without access to...
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[15:59:13] <exec> 08└─shouldn't it be the other way around? seriously, shouldn't all the nerds and intellectuals be setting up on IPv6, one, because its newer and better, and two, to get away from all the unwashed idiot masses? IPv6 should be the new pre-AOL-internet. the IPv6 Eternal September is inevitable, sure, but w...
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[15:59:18] <exec> 08└─Does sound good, isn't it? Can only wish they wouldn't chase TPBar and keep the DRM crap out of the toilets ('cause the beer wants to be free, man) Careful with beertorrenting, though, most of it is pee2pee.
[15:59:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Prior art: toy, WiFi, internet, central server - 06Cute or Creepy? Google's Plan for a Sci-Fi Teddy Bear - 688 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:59:55] <exec> 08└─Nabaztag [wikipedia.org] Out of the box, the Nabaztag rabbit is 23 cm in height and weighs 418 g. It can send and receive MP3s and messages that are read out loud as well as perform the following services (by either speaking the information out loud or using indicative lights): weather forecast, sto...
[16:00:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Time to treatment? - 06Scientists Unveil Prostate Cancer's "Rosetta Stone" - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:00:09] <exec> 08└─This may be a novel idea to you, but if you are not interested in the conversation, then how about not sticking your goddamn nose into it? There is no much point in entering a discussion just to declare your indifference. Despite what you might have come to believe, the world doesn't need your opini...
[16:00:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:One of the least-deadly cancers - 06Scientists Unveil Prostate Cancer's "Rosetta Stone" - 661 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:00:16] <exec> 08└─Check for yourself.... A very quick Google search came up with 13% of all male cancer deaths are from Prostate cancer - hardly trivial 4% of all male deaths are due to Prostate Cancer as a comparison, Breast cancer is responsible for 15% of all female cancer deaths. As for metastasis - how the fuck...
[16:01:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02State/Carrier sponsored Exits - 06"Astoria" Tor Client Aims to Defeat Traffic Analysis - 141 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:01:44] <exec> 08└─autonomous system (AS) that lies on both the path from the Tor client to the entry relay and the path from the exit relay to the destination.
[16:01:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02interconnect? - 06"Astoria" Tor Client Aims to Defeat Traffic Analysis - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:01:48] <exec> 08└─erm ... wouldn't we need to know how all big inter-nets (AS) interconnect FIRST in order to be able to evaluate "more secure"? like interconnect virtually (ip-over-ip) and like real physical cable? doesn't that change over time?
[16:03:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03quacking duck [1395] (Score:2) 02Re:Sex dolls, of course people will make use of it - 06Artificial Sexuality: A Round-Table Discussion on Screwing Robots - 903 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:25] <exec> 08└─It has nothing to do with them being allies. Hinduism and Buddhism has used the swastika for over two thousands years, and often appear on statues with the swastika arms splaying to the left, instead of the right (with the entire symbol in a diamond / 45° orientation) the way the Nazis used it, tho...
[16:04:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02For Fucks Sake - 06Why We Should Let the Pantheon Crack - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:04:49] <exec> 08└─Stupid opening statement Ridiculous comparisons Yep - dumb click bait This is so bad it is making Slashdot look good! Fuck it is even making Hugh fuck head Pickens look good!
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[16:58:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:58:29] <exec> 08└─Race is a human construct, not supported by the biology. Please continue...
[16:58:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Blaming immigrants for nationalist parties? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:58:30] <exec> 08└─That seems to be an incorrect allocation of responsibility.
[16:58:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Blaming immigrants for nationalist parties? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:58:31] <exec> 08└─While I could have used better word choice there, immigration is one of the primary drivers of the rise of nationalist parties although it cannot be singularly blamed.
[16:58:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03azrael [2855] (Score:1) 02Disagree - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:58:33] <exec> 08└─I disagree with the premise that multiculturalism has failed.
[16:58:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03twistedcubic [929] (Score:1) 02What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 516 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:58:35] <exec> 08└─The only complaint I saw in the summary is (paraphrased) "immigrants suck because they need social assistance". What does this have to do with multiculturalism? In a free society, what's wrong with me practicing whatever religion I want, eating whatever food I choose to cook or buy, study whatever I...
[16:58:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:58:36] <exec> 08└─People who can't handle these differences
[16:58:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:More information - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:58:44] <exec> 08└─who had flagged his trades as suspicious as early as 2008
[16:58:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Where's the crime? - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:58:47] <exec> 08└─IT shouldn't be illegal. No spoofing in the world can force you to buy stock. If you're dumb enough to chase the price then you deserve what you get.
[16:58:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Where's the crime? - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:58:51] <exec> 08└─That's what they think. How do they know that Sarao doesn't have all the components of a wireless computer embedded within his body? They'll have to encase him in a Faraday cage to stop him manipulating the markets!
[16:58:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Order and cancel - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 799 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:58:52] <exec> 08└─I've been trying to learn about HFT and consider both sides of the arguments. (I know, wrong planet...) The thing I don't understand is the part about creating a ton of orders "to push the market" and then canceling them. If it is a pending order that has not been filled (e.g. a limit order) why wou...
[16:58:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Order and cancel - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 453 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:58:54] <exec> 08└─It doesn't fit into any ethics, because the stock market is a silly child's game with pretend rules that make no sense. Wow, you had insider information and acted upon it? How horrible that you tried to save your money! Wow, you did HFT but cancelled the orders? It must be your fault that others act...
[16:58:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Re:Order and cancel - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:58:56] <exec> 08└─Just to put your reply in context, would you be one of those who think the government should not grant corporations permission to exist? Or, if you're OK with corporations, how do you think they should obtain the investment seed money to build up their business? For example a railroad: where should...
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[16:58:57] <exec> 08└─The primary and secondary stock markets are completely different things anymore. This is doubly so when dealing with public corporations. No body thinks they are buying shareholder voting rights (due to the shear expense of getting that much stock) or dissolution assets (as companies either live for...
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[16:59:30] <exec> 08└─Google is on v6, Farcebook is on v6, what more do 90% of the Internet users need?
[16:59:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What were they being used for? - 06UK Selling Off Unused IPv4 Addresses - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:59:37] <exec> 08└─block of 16 million addresses ... leaving about five million free for disposal.
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[17:58:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 424 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:58:29] <exec> 08└─WTF does "race" have to do with this discussion? The subject matter is "multiculturalism". Maybe you have failed to understand that US and Australian white people came from very much the same "race", but they have developed vastly different cultures? Grab a dictionary, and try to follow along on the...
[17:58:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Disagree - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 618 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:58:33] <exec> 08└─Me too. Maybe there are places it has failed - but it is not a universal failure. Multiculturism is a great success where I live: I can eat food from a different country every day of the month, and enjoy the contributions to music, fashion and art made by people around the world. OP is just a piece...
[17:58:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Disagree - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:58:35] <exec> 08└─Cool. You disagree. Can you point to any examples where it has WORKED? It hasn't worked in the US, and it seems to be failing in Europe. Maybe you have some OTHER examples, like Japan, or Korea, or - I don't know - maybe Mexico?
[17:58:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:58:38] <exec> 08└─He didn't forget, the number is just very low.
[17:58:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 982 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:58:40] <exec> 08└─The problem isn't the dude pulling the trigger or the dude getting hit, but all the cheering from the sidelines and the apologists. For all of history people have been pretty lazy. Pulling a historical 60s civil rights example, the problem wasn't black dudes getting lynched, because the odds were hi...
[17:58:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 932 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:58:42] <exec> 08└─> What does this have to do with multiculturalism? That part doesn't and neither does Merkel's victim blaming Those are just e-fueled finding what he wants to find. If you read the Foreign Affairs article it roundly blames the government for pitting minorities against each other rather than supporti...
[17:58:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:58:43] <exec> 08└─How 'bout those subway bombings in London? The Boston Marathon bombers? This multiculturalism thing is just a fancy way of saying that you welcome poisonous creatures into your family. If a group refuses to assimilate into YOUR culture, they should not be welcomed, it's simple as that.
[17:58:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02E-Fueled vs. Gewg_ - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:58:45] <exec> 08└─Midnight, parking lot behind SN, no knives
[17:58:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02I want to call it a no-brainer - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 1676 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:58:46] <exec> 08└─As my title says, I WANT to call it a no-brainer. But, I can't quite do that. It takes a LITTLE bit of brains to figure out that some aspects of some cultures are incompatible with some aspects of other cultures. There is no culture on earth today that is "evil" or "wrong". People are intrinsically...
[17:58:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I want to call it a no-brainer - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:58:48] <exec> 08└─Just meekly comply with whatever standards are in place wherever you go, and don't try to challenge anything. Is that your motto? If it is, it sounds stupid to me.
[17:58:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:I want to call it a no-brainer - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:58:49] <exec> 08└─If you're the outsider, and you want to plant roots in that new place - yes, you accept whatever is there. End of story. If you don't like conditions where you are going, then just don't go there. Find another place to put down roots. THAT MUCH is a fucking no-brainer!
[17:58:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03azrael [2855] (Score:1) 02Re:I want to call it a no-brainer - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 536 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:58:51] <exec> 08└─If you come to America, you need to adopt the American culture - or, as some would say, our lack of culture. Adopt plastic restaurants, serving imitation foods which only contribute to your increasing obesity, totally devoid of nutrients. Adapt to our system of education, however sad that may be at...
[17:58:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Multiculturalism has succeeded [citation needed] - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:58:53] <exec> 08└─OK. I see that some of us are just too floored at the audacity of this post to contribute coherent replies. But when you're ready, reply here with them. Proposed: Multiculturalism, Cultural Relativism, and Open Borders have been successful and beneficial national policies. Is there any evidence to...
[17:58:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:1) 02kudos - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:58:54] <exec> 08└─I just want to say: kudos to ethanol-fueled for supplying an interesting article for discussion that hopefully won't "devolve into sophistry" on a laden topic like this.
[17:58:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02renew civil society - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:58:56] <exec> 08└─I liked the comparison between multiculturalism (DE, UK) and assimilationism (FR). TFA says: we in Europe have to "renew our civil society". Sounds great. Anybody any idea how??
[17:59:04] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03n1 [993] 02Re:Where's the crime? - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 395 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:59:04] <exec> 08└─From one of the ZeroHedge links [zerohedge.com] I posted above: As you can see the vast, vast majority of ES contracts just before lunch today was cancelled without ever resulting in a single trade. And, we are confident, since Mr. Sarao is currently either in custody or on bail, without access to...
[17:59:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Order and cancel - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 641 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:59:11] <exec> 08└─While I don't play the stock market perhaps it's almost like an auction. When you place an order you are almost bidding on a limited item. The more people that bid on it the higher the price of subsequent bids goes. So if you already own stock in something and then you place a bunch of orders that w...
[17:59:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Order and cancel - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 995 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:59:12] <exec> 08└─(Same poster) Actually what you may try to do is sell a few stocks from one account, buy pending stocks from another account and time it so that the pending stocks inflate the market at the time that the stocks you own sell. Then you cancel the pending stocks. Like I said the stock market attempts t...
[17:59:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"As the oceans become more saturated with CO2.." - 06Tara Oceans Team Completes Study of World's Plankton - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:59:21] <exec> 08└─Naively, I might expect that to lead to an increase in the population of eukaryotic plankton which use CO2 for photosynthesis, and thus by the food chain above it.
[17:59:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Scarcity - 06UK Selling Off Unused IPv4 Addresses - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:59:54] <exec> 08└─https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/09/01/ale-chief-white-house-beer-recipe [whitehouse.gov]
[18:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:1) 02Re:Spam filter - 06News About Pfizer's Most Popular Pill - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:07] <exec> 08└─Thanks for the confirmation — given the limited information available, it was a bit of a struggle!
[18:02:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03McD [540] (Score:1) 02Two More Cents On All Of This... - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 1254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:45] <exec> 08└─I think a neutral POV is a good thing. Bias is inevitable, in everything from story selection to what sources we link to - but if the summary verbiage is blatantly partisan in one way or another on any given issue, it tarnishes the credibility of the site and the discussion. But as we're seeing in t...
[18:02:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just curious... - 06A Public Apology to Microsoft and sigma - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:52] <exec> 08└─The video you saw was released by the Ferguson PD and it was conveniently edited down to just a short clip.
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[18:58:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Responsibility - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 434 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:58:29] <exec> 08└─The editors and the staff have a responsibility to ensure that this site can continue to exist. It has been made clear that this site could fold over a meaningful legal challenge. I for one would like to see SN stay on the 'net. To that end, postings to the main page may require edits or wholesale...
[18:58:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Rewrite horrible summaries - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 524 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:58:30] <exec> 08└─I've seen a fair number of summaries that were just horribly written, or completely inaccurate, or just preposterously provocative in tone. I expect the editors have been changing summaries of that sort, not the ones that are basically fine as they were. In that case, I would suggest completely rewr...
[18:58:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Rewrite horrible summaries - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 970 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:58:32] <exec> 08└─The problem could be solved by including with every summary a link to the original submission, so people can see for themselves just how much things have changed -- that way would save the staff some effort and leave it up to the community to call out any differences. Honestly, though, I think this...
[18:58:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Rewrite horrible summaries - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:58:34] <exec> 08└─And pet-peeves are for assholes, so one of my [...]
[18:58:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Think of it this way - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:58:35] <exec> 08└─Are you proud of the recent article about how Apple is "gouging" people over the component cost of their phones even though it came to light that other phone companies target the same level? If so, then by all means, let the editors create more of that drivel. Slashdot could use the competition.
[18:58:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:2, Funny) 02Re:Think of it this way - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:58:37] <exec> 08└─Maybe if Soylent News tries hard enough to be perfect; it too will someday run nice, safe, neutral, impartial, professional stories like this one. [slashdot.org]
[18:58:38] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02It's memorial day weekend! - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 115 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:58:38] <exec> 08└─Can't we move 'Bash the Editors' day a couple weeks forward or backward? I hate when the holidays start to overlap.
[18:58:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Insightful) 02Submissions should be neutral in tone - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 935 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:58:40] <exec> 08└─On controversial subjects, which include all topics which are political in nature including immigration, educational reform, copyrights, patents, and anything having to do with controversies involving individual politicians or political pundits. Now, the links embedded in TFS might advocate one side...
[18:58:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03fliptop [1666] (Score:2) 02No complaints from me - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:58:42] <exec> 08└─The stories I submit are rarely edited. The few that have been were changes I thought appropriate. Ethanol-fueled's idea of providing a link to the original submission is interesting, though.
[18:58:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:No complaints from me - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 898 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:58:43] <exec> 08└─Linking to the original submission does seem to be the ideal compromise when the editing goes beyond simple spelling/grammar correction. Those definitely ought to be either fixed or "[sic]" added as a matter of course (I'd prefer the former for most, but sometimes the latter can be a better approach...
[18:58:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02How about both? - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:58:45] <exec> 08└─How about having both? Show the edited one and have a link somewhere that shows what the actual submission looked liked. Then people that think something is fishy or wondering how and what the submission can find out.
[18:58:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:58:52] <exec> 08└─Modified: Culture is a human construct, not supported by the biology. Please continue...
[18:58:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:58:53] <exec> 08└─Right in TFS: When we hear the word "multiculturalism," some imagine people of all races and creeds holding hands
[18:58:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:58:56] <exec> 08└─Sorry, I down-modded you by mistake. There doesn't seem to be any way to undo this.
[18:58:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:58:59] <exec> 08└─No problem - I'm often curious about who mods, and why. But, stuff happens. I've clicked the wrong thingy often enough since these new-fangled computers came along!
[18:59:00] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 2145 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:00] <exec> 08└─Sigh....let me point out this teeny tiny fact,mmmkay? RACE is different colors, be it white black green WTF ever, and CULTURE is an identity that a group, whatever color they may or may not be, has CHOSEN to assume. For an example of why culture can be a bad thing? Just look at the ample evidence th...
[18:59:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:03] <exec> 08└─Oh my, Hairy. You've stepped in it now. No one EVER wins one of these arguments when they point out obvious truths. Stand by to be blasted from all sides!
[18:59:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:06] <exec> 08└─while condemning those that actually try to get an education or better themselves as "cooning" and "acting white" has become so toxic that the #1 cause of death among young black males? **-OTHER BLACK MALES.
[18:59:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score:2) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:08] <exec> 08└─Groups of heritable traits whose frequency varies by geographic area sounds like biology to me.
[18:59:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:Blaming immigrants for nationalist parties? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 2601 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:11] <exec> 08└─Especially because in the European examples, immigration is not some ethno-sociological experiment - or some disease these societies attracted through sheer osmosis. The great migrations are the direct consequence of European and American states late-stage colonial domination of the world, for labou...
[18:59:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:Blaming immigrants for nationalist parties? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 1265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:14] <exec> 08└─Pragmatically, my g-g-grandparents learned English and blended in and now I'm a happy well adjusted (?) member of the oppressor class, while observationally the experimental result of not learning English and not even minimally trying to fit in (sounds more like an invasion than an immigration) seem...
[18:59:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Blaming immigrants for nationalist parties? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:17] <exec> 08└─The frustration feels much like arguing with drug addicts... You, uh, know that the solution to your problems isn't at the bottom of that liquor bottle, right? You, uh, know that intentionally creating a small separated isolated sub-culture adjacent to the wealthier main culture leads to permanent s...
[18:59:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Disagree - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:18] <exec> 08└─Maybe there are places it has failed - but it is not a universal failure. Multiculturism is a great success where I live: I can eat food from a different country every day of the month
[18:59:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Disagree - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 592 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:20] <exec> 08└─I don't. Do you have any evidence at all to back up your assertion? Being able to eat food from different countries is not multiculturalism. We have that in the US too, and we've had that for a very, very long time. The US is not, historically, a multicultural society, it's one which was built by as...
[18:59:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Disagree - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 861 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:22] <exec> 08└─Aside from arbitrary lines on a map, I think its more instructive to look at economic level. Its hard to find a wealthy area, Manhattan Island, City of London, maybe SFO, where people are so rich they don't care who their neighbors are, plus gated communities, such that "it works if people are distr...
[18:59:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 41 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:23] <exec> 08└─People who can't handle these differences
[18:59:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:25] <exec> 08└─No, there aren't millions of people grouped in a particular religion who want to kill you but are too lazy to do it. If you keep thinking like that, though, it could become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
[18:59:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:26] <exec> 08└─> The problem isn't the dude pulling the trigger or the dude getting hit, but all the cheering from the sidelines and the apologists. Why don’t more moderate Muslims denounce extremism? [washingtonpost.com]
[18:59:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:28] <exec> 08└─How 'bout those subway bombings in London? The Boston Marathon bombers? This multiculturalism thing is just a fancy way of saying that you welcome poisonous creatures into your family.
[18:59:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:30] <exec> 08└─that are already part of your family.
[18:59:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:31] <exec> 08└─Finally, someone who gets it! Thanks man, I couldn't have done it without you!
[18:59:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:33] <exec> 08└─Thanks man, I couldn't have done it without you!
[18:59:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:34] <exec> 08└─Exactly. We do send our own family members to prison for murdering people at random - or, we even execute them. With this multiculturalism thing, we're expected to accept the thought that imams can sit safely inside their temples, preaching to the next generation that the culture surrounding them is...
[18:59:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:36] <exec> 08└─we're expected to accept the thought that imams can sit safely inside their temples, preaching to the next generation that the culture surrounding them is evil, and must be destroyed.
[18:59:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:38] <exec> 08└─With this multiculturalism thing, we're expected to accept the thought that Tele-evangelists can sit safely inside their temples, preaching to the next generation that the culture surrounding them is evil, and must be destroyed.
[18:59:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 1381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:39] <exec> 08└─Nothing is wrong with practicing a given religion, eating what you want, studying what you want, etc. - provided you don't breach the established laws of the land anyway. The problem doesn't really seem to be about multiculturalism per se, most of the countries in the EU have quite cosmopolitan raci...
[18:59:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:41] <exec> 08└─it lies in addressing why those monocultural enclaves are forming in the first place
[18:59:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 1753 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:42] <exec> 08└─Its not the fact that some need assistance, its the problem we are having in the USA with the illegals where you have people coming only for welfare where you end up with the obvious "free rider" problem where you have too many taking out that have never put in. Look at the case in NV that made the...
[18:59:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score:2) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:44] <exec> 08└─I would say you are mostly right, but there is a type of culture that will always cause problems in a free society: one that doesn't believe in the idea of a free society in the first place.
[18:59:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I want to call it a no-brainer - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:46] <exec> 08└─You and I had nothing to do with the greatness or economic success (or lack thereof) of our native countries we were born into. We have one life to do something with. Not one life to be passive and accept our lot, and then another life where we might be better positioned. You seem to be like the Wal...
[18:59:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I want to call it a no-brainer - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:47] <exec> 08└─My favorite bumper-sticker: "America, Love it or Give It Back." Loyalists and the UKIP making common racist cause? Sounds like Treason to me!
[18:59:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:I want to call it a no-brainer - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 620 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:49] <exec> 08└─You get half points for that observation. As I've pointed out in many discussions, on many forums, I am the product of marriages between Native Americans and European settlers. My wife is also a product of the same thing, and she actually qualifies as a tribes woman, if she should ever choose to joi...
[18:59:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I want to call it a no-brainer - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:50] <exec> 08└─so you're an "american", and any foreigner should comply with your standards, right? I'm so glad your ancestors did this when they moved over from the old continent. they must have been so happy to get to a land of lazy fat couch potato red skins.
[18:59:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:I want to call it a no-brainer - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:52] <exec> 08└─See my reply to Azrael. Why does everyone believe that every single European who came to this land was a murderous, raping, pillaging barbarian? Is that the kind of person who still lives in Europe, so you ASSume that European settlers are just like them?
[18:59:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I want to call it a no-brainer - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:53] <exec> 08└─> Why does everyone believe that every single European who came to this land was a murderous, raping, pillaging barbarian? Why do you assume that every single muslim is a murderous, raping, pillaging barbarian? [soylentnews.org] Or is hyperbole something only permitted to you?
[18:59:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Where's the crime? - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:59:57] <exec> 08└─Please stop posting about stuff you know little about. Many HFT traders do these sort of things. Algo and HFT trading works even better for the favoured ones that get rollbacks when they screw up big time.
[19:00:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Re:Order and cancel - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 594 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:00:04] <exec> 08└─Take me through this real slow. The current price is $100. I put a bid into the auction (enter a limit order) to buy if it drops to $99. Everybody else knows I have the right to cancel that order between now and the time the price drops. So they start frantically buying and drive the price up? Why?...
[19:00:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Re:Order and cancel - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 1371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:00:06] <exec> 08└─Maybe this is it. You buy 1000 shares at $100 (investment $100,000). Then you announce to the world that you are going to buy a billion shares at $99, through a limit order you intend to cancel. Everybody goes "OMFG he must know something" so they stampede to copycat and bid it up to $105. You sell...
[19:00:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Don't know, but a guess - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 1131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:00:07] <exec> 08└─I don't know the answer to your question, but I'm going to guess that the answer lies in the algorithms used by the banks and investment houses. Likely they are stupid, look at the pending volume of orders, and change their strategy accordingly. Just exactly why it should be illegal to trick stupid...
[19:00:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't know, but a guess - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 763 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:00:09] <exec> 08└─> guess that the answer lies in the algorithms used by the banks and investment houses. Likely they are stupid, look at the pending volume of orders, and change their strategy accordingly. That would make sense. I'm wondering if someone more knowledgeable than either of us can offer another explanat...
[19:05:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Sex dolls, of course people will make use of it - 06Artificial Sexuality: A Round-Table Discussion on Screwing Robots - 3007 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:05:05] <exec> 08└─Obligatory: Fry: Well, so what if I love a robot? It's not hurting anybody. Hermes: My God! He never took middle school hygiene. He never saw the propaganda film. Farnsworth: It's just lucky I keep a copy in the VCR at all times. [He presses a button and a film title, I Dated A Robot!, a...
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[19:58:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03BK [4868] 02Responsibility - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 434 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:58:27] <exec> 08└─The editors and the staff have a responsibility to ensure that this site can continue to exist. It has been made clear that this site could fold over a meaningful legal challenge. I for one would like to see SN stay on the 'net. To that end, postings to the main page may require edits or wholesale...
[19:58:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Responsibility - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 477 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:58:28] <exec> 08└─It's a matter of developing a policy to clearly express who is saying what in the summary. If the submission cannot be posted as submitted, perhaps re-write it and say [editor's name] writes at the bottom thank the submitter for bringing it to attention. That way credit is given where due and nobody...
[19:58:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Re:Responsibility - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:58:30] <exec> 08└─Or set a policy that the submitter's words are their own and may not reflect the views of the editors or the site itself, much like the comments.
[19:58:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Responsibility - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:58:31] <exec> 08└─submitter's words are their own ...
[19:58:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pseudonymous Coward [4624] (Score:1) 02Re:Responsibility - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 465 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:58:33] <exec> 08└─The editors and the staff have a responsibility to ensure journalistic integrity and rigor. Rewriting a story because "their lawyers might think it's slander and only then send us an angry letter" is a hell of a stretch. And even if they come after us (a non-profit org with public finances), I thoug...
[19:58:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:Rewrite horrible summaries - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:58:36] <exec> 08└─It would be nice if the site had a "submitted by" field as part of the header like the "posted by" that indicates the editor. Like this, without the hosts showing: Submitted by sigma [mailto], posted by n1 [soylentnews.org] on Sunday May 24, @06:06AM. This would also make it easier for our editors s...
[19:58:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Submissions should be neutral in tone - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 749 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:58:42] <exec> 08└─I also think that submitters should be able to editorialize when they want (my rationale is that this is a community-driven site and not some mere regurgitation of news feeds), but the question is, how do you make it clear that you are editorializing? Should a submitter or editor note be included th...
[19:58:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Submissions should be neutral in tone - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 1289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:58:43] <exec> 08└─When it comes to copyprotection laws there is very little controversy. Our current laws are purely a result of corporate corruption. These secretive negotiations are a result of corruption. Those that pretend to disagree are mostly shills. Criticism against corruption shouldn't be held back just bec...
[19:58:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Beryllium Sphere (r) (5062) (Score:2, Insightful) 02How tone policing changes a forum - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 630 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:58:47] <exec> 08└─In another life I'm administrator on an indescribably diverse webcomic forum, and have had to confront issues related to this. There's no one right answer. Allowing flames and rants makes a place more stimulating, and more welcoming to people who have grievances. Enforcing civility keeps things open...
[19:58:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:How tone policing changes a forum - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 909 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:58:48] <exec> 08└─This whole incident started not with a TONE edit, but a factual edit, where the submitter of THIS post submitted another post which used an outright LIE, and attributed it to a liked story. In doing so, he libeled not only the company that everyone loves to hate, but also the author of the linked s...
[19:58:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03tomp [996] (Score:2) 02Betteridge Knows - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:58:50] <exec> 08└─Who invoked Betteridge's law of headlines [wikipedia.org]? If that was an editorial decision, then the answer is likely yes. Any other case and Betteridge has it.
[19:58:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02clearly they - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:58:51] <exec> 08└─NO CARRIER
[19:58:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Ever hear the story about Moose Turd Pie? - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:58:53] <exec> 08└─Just saying... https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[19:59:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:59:06] <exec> 08└─> Stand by to be blasted from all sides! And you've hit on the most obvious truth of the post... All hairy wants is to be the center of a bukake circle.
[19:59:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 987 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:59:07] <exec> 08└─Let 'em. I am a socialist leftie from the 70s, when we actually believed in judging people by the content of their character and not by some Oppression Olympics [wikia.com]. We believed in actually looking at problems and trying to SOLVE those problems, not make excuses. this is why I have to LMAO a...
[19:59:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:59:10] <exec> 08└─Well said, this is the as one well written black author called it, The Inconvenient Truth about Ghetto Communities’ Social Breakdown [nationalreview.com] You cannot take any people, of any color, and exempt them from the requirements of civilization without ruinous consequences to them and to soc...
[19:59:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 610 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:59:11] <exec> 08└─Holy crap is that article myopic and worded in a way to obscure rather than reveal truth. For example he says, "Murder rates among black males were going down — repeat, down — during the much-lamented 1950s, while it went up after the much celebrated 1960s." Yet violent crime in general among bl...
[19:59:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03azrael [2855] (Score:1) 02Re:Disagree - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:59:23] <exec> 08└─Found the following article that makes good reading on this subject - probably better reading than any reply I could knock-up in 3 minutes - The successes and failures of multiculturalism [policy-network.net]
[19:59:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Disagree - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:59:24] <exec> 08└─LOL - it's probably a damned good article. I can tell because I'm not allowed to read it. "You don't have the correct permissions for this page." I was looking forward to something challenging, too!
[19:59:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Disagree - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:59:26] <exec> 08└─Sorry - I posted to quickly. I did a search for the article you cited, and ixquick gave me a link to the same story on the same site - it opens up for me. Reading . . .
[19:59:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03azrael [2855] (Score:1) 02Re:Disagree - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:59:27] <exec> 08└─damnit... that link worked for however I got there.. yet agree it doesn't work directly *shakes fist at the internet*
[19:59:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Disagree - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:59:29] <exec> 08└─I looked at those numbers. The numbers are somewhat deceiving. Please, listen to Brigitte as she explains the importance of those numbers. https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[19:59:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Disagree - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:59:31] <exec> 08└─What is it with the crazies always citing videos? You are a gamergater too aren't you? Those freakjobs love to link to videos, like we should spend 5+ minutes listening to some rando rambling about something that isn't even on topic to start with? Come on man. Posting those videos is like masturbati...
[19:59:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Disagree - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:59:32] <exec> 08└─Found the following article that makes good reading on this subject - probably better reading than any reply I could knock-up in 3 minutes - The successes and failures of multiculturalism
[19:59:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03azrael [2855] (Score:1) 02Re:Disagree - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:59:34] <exec> 08└─Well I didn't drop it!!!! There's a global conspiracy, I swear!!!! THEY DID IT!!!
[19:59:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 690 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:59:38] <exec> 08└─Bollocks, of course there are. In addition there are even more grouped in "a particular religion" that wouldn't be unhappy to hear about one of their co-believers martyring themselves and taking a bunch of infidels with them. Let's put a name to it. There are approximately 1.6 billion Muslims in the...
[19:59:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:59:46] <exec> 08└─Hahah! You are so clever and smart. You grace us with your unique insight and wit!
[19:59:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:59:50] <exec> 08└─No no! Those people are white so their culture isn't to blame. It is some other reason. Only brown people with funny clothes and funny accents who smell like strange food can be cultural ideologues. It is part of their culture!
[19:59:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 521 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:59:53] <exec> 08└─> If there is a solution to the problem, it lies in addressing why those monocultural enclaves are forming in the first place If you read the Foreign Affairs article, you'll see that the rise of these enclaves is due primarily to government action - in both countries like the UK and Germany where po...
[19:59:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:59:55] <exec> 08└─Look at the case in NV that made the news not too long ago where you had coyotes organizing "treatment buses" where they would drop off tons of illegals needing all kinds of expensive medical treatments at the doorsteps of the ERs,
[19:59:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 1334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:59:56] <exec> 08└─Wow, Hairyfeet, I have not seen so much spittle in once place for a long time! Is your name in real life Archie Bunker? You may have been a liberal or even a socialist at some point, but now you sound just like any other old, rightwing, Fox-watching Tea-bagger! I mean, busses of illegal immigrants b...
[20:00:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:Where's the crime? - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 814 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:00:08] <exec> 08└─Have to agree here. I know it would be a very bad thing short-term, but I'd like to suggest that when “flash crashes” happen that it should be illegal to hit the rewind button. Maybe long term if trillions of dollars of wealth could go up in smoke because of some algorithm somewhere, maybe, just...
[20:00:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:Where's the crime? - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:00:09] <exec> 08└─I think the moral of the story is: Learn your place slave! If you have not worked out that this is a corporate run world where your expected role is to stay on the treadmill for as little as possible reward until you drop dead (preferably a few seconds after retirement) then you are a mouth breathin...
[20:00:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:Where's the crime? - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:00:15] <exec> 08└─That or at least delete his cron tabs.
[20:05:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03khedoros [2921] (Score:2) 02Re:Sex dolls, of course people will make use of it - 06Artificial Sexuality: A Round-Table Discussion on Screwing Robots - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:05:25] <exec> 08└─The faux intelligence part is easy since we still have exponential improvement left in classical CPUs, GPUs, and storage, as well as algorithmic improvements. Effective robot bodies are harder work because it depends on material science.
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[20:58:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Responsibility - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:58:42] <exec> 08└─I think that part goes without saying, even though we say so in every story:
[20:58:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Then simply reject the post! - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 448 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:58:43] <exec> 08└─Then simply reject the post and ask for it to be re-submitted. Allow the poster to fix the problem with their words. Maybe help guide the writer to make it better. LIKE REAL EDITORS! Once the editor goes beyond that line, then SN is not longer "by and for the people". SN starts ghost writing artic...
[20:58:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Rewrite horrible summaries - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 484 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:58:49] <exec> 08└─Agreed, that would make the problem go away, and allow the original submitter's lead in to prevail. OTOH, there is no reason why we need to start off our submissions with the cited article up front. (I admit I do this myself quite a bit). You can open the submission with a table setter paragraph, or...
[20:59:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Informative) 02Get over yourself... - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:59:04] <exec> 08└─Should the submissions be allowed to stand as a clear reflection of the community's intent,
[20:59:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Appalbarry [66] (Score:2) 02A Modest Proposal - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 725 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:59:05] <exec> 08└─If you submit copy to a publication with an editor you'll get edited. Sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. "Real" writers understand this, and accept that some edits aren't what you would prefer. Volunteer or amateur editors just amplify things. If you really feel that the editing is a...
[20:59:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilPapa [2366] (Score:2) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:59:20] <exec> 08└─Maybe you have failed to understand that US and Australian white people came from very much the same "race", but they have developed vastly different cultures?
[20:59:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Touché) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 681 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:59:25] <exec> 08└─> We've been pretending the culture isn't an issue for damned near 40 years...has things gotten any better? Has the violence gone down? Yes. Dramatically. A nearly two-thirds reduction. [wikipedia.org] Today's black violent crime rate is even one third less than the white violent crime rate of the 7...
[20:59:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilPapa [2366] (Score:2) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:59:29] <exec> 08└─? Just look at the ample evidence that the current culture of the American black, which glorifies violence and gangs
[20:59:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Disagree - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:59:40] <exec> 08└─> Another aspect of Multiculturalism is Open Borders - the idea that there should be no legal barrier to entry for those with those from different cultures. Since that exists no where in the world, it seems your citation of it is more about displaying your tribal affiliation with other nationalists...
[21:00:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Where's the crime? - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 424 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:00:35] <exec> 08└─That post is agreeing with me. Sure it is a defense of Sarao by saying it is common place. But that is what I said. You have to get caught and enforcement is so underfunded that nobody even looks without some gynormous event. If you think that post is actually a defense of spoofing, re-read the fir...
[21:00:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Order and cancel - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 989 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:00:45] <exec> 08└─Someone I know does a lot of "investing" on the side (it's not his day job) frequently gambling thousands of dollars and generally making a profit. He told me he has some very sophisticated spread sheets that he did for modelling companies. He can tell when a company is a good buy. Apparently there...
[21:00:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Comparative ignorance - 06Tara Oceans Team Completes Study of World's Plankton - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:00:57] <exec> 08└─Just saying that we understand the ecosystem of the oceans even less that we do that of rainforests suggests that humans do not know an awful lot about what we depend upon for our survival. Makes me wish I had a snowball, but I'm not sure that would help. Maybe funding Earth Science would?
[21:01:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Can i get .who? - 06UK Selling Off Unused IPv4 Addresses - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:01:35] <exec> 08└─Or do i have to settle for a .whoswho? I want Doctor.who! :) (Doctor.whoswho sounds like an owl with Tourettes...)
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[21:58:27] <exec> 08└─Film at 11.
[21:58:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Further reading on the topic - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:58:53] <exec> 08└─Some links to further reading on the topic, which AC will probably not like: http://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] http://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] I love this quote: "Should array indices start at 0 or 1? My compromise of 0.5 was rejected wit...
[21:58:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02Re:How tone policing changes a forum - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 909 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:58:58] <exec> 08└─This whole incident started not with a TONE edit, but a factual edit, where the submitter of THIS post submitted another post which used an outright LIE, and attributed it to a liked story. In doing so, he libeled not only the company that everyone loves to hate, but also the author of the linked s...
[21:58:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Do not steal. - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 813 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:59:00] <exec> 08└─If the editor caught the error before publishing - reject the submission and ask for rewrite, noting errors (other than spelling and grammer). If the editor publishes it - then take it whole damn thing down. Post a place holder reporting the high level issue. Example: facts do not match, requesting...
[21:59:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:A Modest Proposal - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:59:06] <exec> 08└─If you submit copy to a publication with an editor you'll get edited. Sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse.
[21:59:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Nah - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 1052 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:59:08] <exec> 08└─Free speech is free. Your worrying that you've said something wrong which is not actually what your worrying about 'wrong' is defined by the collective so your trying to appease an amorphous mass (us). Honestly don't worry it, I don't care, people who do tend to have issues with what free speech ent...
[21:59:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nah - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:59:10] <exec> 08└─At the moment we can 'comment' on stories, but we really could also develop, we could play games, we could share torrents or compress our files into torrents(in a more general sense you could offer online tools). We could collaborate on things, we could have real time discussion rather than reloadin...
[21:59:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Disclosure is good - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 1071 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:59:11] <exec> 08└─I've submitted stuff to this site and seen it slightly edited. This is fine, I had a scoop but didn't understand enough to write a detailed summary - this was improved upon by the edits made. However I would like some indication that edits have been made. Not that interesting since I post anonymousl...
[21:59:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 424 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:59:20] <exec> 08└─WTF does "race" have to do with this discussion? The subject matter is "multiculturalism". Maybe you have failed to understand that US and Australian white people came from very much the same "race", but they have developed vastly different cultures? Grab a dictionary, and try to follow along on the...
[21:59:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:59:26] <exec> 08└─It was casually mentioned in the first sentence, hence my comment.
[21:59:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:59:36] <exec> 08└─Waco biker shooting: Weapons stashed in odd places [cnn.com]
[21:59:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:59:37] <exec> 08└─There is a wide consensus that the racial categories that are common in everyday usage are socially constructed, and that racial groups cannot be biologically defined. http://en.wikipedia.org(human_classification) [wikipedia.org].
[21:59:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 575 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:59:39] <exec> 08└─Race is "he's dark, I'm light so we are different human beings". Or "My family claims to worship this dusty book, so we are special" is another commonly bandied around definition. Previously defined "traits" are a far less accurate marker than genetics, the language is slowly coming to terms with th...
[21:59:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:no scientific base for race. - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:59:41] <exec> 08└─> To repeat: there is no scientific basis for race, although there are many political movements that do not like this fact. To wit: Kian and Remee [dailymail.co.uk] Lucy and Maria [dailymail.co.uk] The irony of citing the most racist newspaper in the UK is not lost on me.
[21:59:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:Blaming immigrants for nationalist parties? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:59:44] <exec> 08└─I disagree. The cause of immigration isn't colonialism itself but the destructive capitalist desire for lower wages at any shared societal cost. The Great War and World War II destroyed generations of workers that the governments decided to bring in outsiders, in complete disregard to the causes of...
[21:59:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Blaming immigrants for nationalist parties? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 960 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:59:45] <exec> 08└─It seems to me that you lost site of your point, (as did I) in your headlong rush toward spreading more heat than light. Regardless historical reasons for the migration to foreign places, the immigrants were expected to, and mostly did, assimilate themselves into the culture of their chosen new coun...
[21:59:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Blaming immigrants for nationalist parties? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:59:47] <exec> 08└─It seems to me that you lost site of your point,
[21:59:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Disagree - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:59:56] <exec> 08└─In such a case of Nordstroms or Saks then that becomes your culture and thus multiculturalism still fails. 1%ers all around the world share a very homogenous monoculture compared to the rest of us.
[22:00:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:00:11] <exec> 08└─That anecdotal experience by one journalist is counter to the polls around the western world that show apathy to outright support for this sort of behavior by islamic communities.
[22:00:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:00:12] <exec> 08└─That anecdotal experience by one journalist is counter to the polls around the western world that show apathy to outright support for this sort of behavior by islamic communities.
[22:00:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:00:22] <exec> 08└─Same reason we are expected to accept the thought that grand wizards can sit safely inside their temples...
[22:00:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:00:24] <exec> 08└─> When discussing racial strife a representative from the Klan is never invited The way Fox interviewed [youtube.com] Paul Fromm? [wikipedia.org] Yeah that never happens.
[22:00:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Where's the crime? - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:00:46] <exec> 08└─I would agree... if they put some kind of transaction fee on placing the spoof trades. Financial institutions get to rollback trades if they were placed in error too.
[22:00:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Order and cancel - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 568 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:00:59] <exec> 08└─HFT has nothing to do with companies raising money to buy capital. It is just a means to manipulate stock prices to help the buyer running the HFT system. I would expect day-to-day fluctuations in stock prices caused by this make no difference to companies in the long term. Unless, of course, it cau...
[22:01:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Order and cancel - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 490 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:01:05] <exec> 08└─Generally when leverage is mentioned it is referring to a simple loan from whatever company you are trading through. In your example, if the $11,000 stocks went down to $6,000 you have lost $5,000 and have a $10,000 debt to pay back at a high interest rate. You effectively are borrowing money from a...
[22:01:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't know, but a guess - 06UK Citizen in Jail for Causing "Flash-Crash", or Just High-Frequency Trading? - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:01:08] <exec> 08└─Those who just say "somebody who isn't me has money, therefore they must be evil" has a ridiculously simple view of the world, IMHO.
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[22:58:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Dang: been doing this for years and did not know! - 06Heating Homes and Businesses with "Data Furnaces" - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:58:29] <exec> 08└─I have multiple machines running 7x24 crunching from RC5 (in the past) to protein folding, when not web surfing or other uses. Been helping to spot heat my home for a northern climate. This would be nice next step. Would be nice to get a little VM space on radiator and only need a RPi for desktop/th...
[22:58:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Might require high temperature for transfer - 06Heating Homes and Businesses with "Data Furnaces" - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:58:30] <exec> 08└─No problem with that equipment needs to reach a too high temperature before heat transfer takes place? it may not break down immediately but rather show in reduced lifespan or reliability. Then there's the issue of reliable power and physical manipulation. "The cloud" seems to more and more mean you...
[22:58:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Computers are not for Nerds anymore - 06Heating Homes and Businesses with "Data Furnaces" - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:58:32] <exec> 08└─Google, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat, these are what computers are for. Socializing, socializing, socializing. Antisocial techy nerds are not welcome. Nerds built the Internet, now get off the Internet. You're not wanted anymore, losers. Get lost.
[22:58:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Computers are not for Nerds anymore - 06Heating Homes and Businesses with "Data Furnaces" - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:58:33] <exec> 08└─Nerds still have Internet2, meshnet and Dark Web.
[22:58:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02what happens in the summer? - 06Heating Homes and Businesses with "Data Furnaces" - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:58:35] <exec> 08└─I mean... I understand there are places on the planet where you may need a heater in the summer as well, but they're not where people would usually want to live.
[22:58:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Competition lowers prices - 06Renewables are Disruptive to Coal and Gas - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:58:43] <exec> 08└─Solar only gives you power at daytime. For nighttime you need other sources, like gas.
[22:58:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Competition lowers prices - 06Renewables are Disruptive to Coal and Gas - 8 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:58:45] <exec> 08└─Or wind.
[22:58:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Competition lowers prices - 06Renewables are Disruptive to Coal and Gas - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:58:47] <exec> 08└─> Solar only gives you power at daytime. For nighttime you need other sources, like gas. RTFA. Energy storage is also reaching disruptive prices at utility scale [rameznaam.com]. The Tesla battery is cheap enough to replace natural gas ‘peaker’ plants [rameznaam.com]. And much cheaper energy st...
[22:58:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:Competition lowers prices - 06Renewables are Disruptive to Coal and Gas - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:58:48] <exec> 08└─Solar only gives you power at daytime. For nighttime you need other sources, like gas.
[22:59:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03hubie [1068] (Score:2) 02Re:Submissions should be neutral in tone - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:59:11] <exec> 08└─Those that pretend to disagree are mostly shills. Criticism against corruption shouldn't be held back just because some corporate shill doesn't like it.
[22:59:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How tone policing changes a forum - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:59:19] <exec> 08└─There's no one right answer.
[22:59:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02You too - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:59:25] <exec> 08└─If the article was as bad as you say, then reject it and do not rewrite it. Let the poster know what was wrong and move on. He can resubmit and review starts a fresh. If you all make mistake and post something that should not have been posted per stated written policies, take it down and place a pla...
[22:59:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03hubie [1068] (Score:2) 02Re:Get over yourself... - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:59:27] <exec> 08└─If all you want to do is post some ranting screed, use the Journal feature of Soylent News.
[22:59:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Real writers unstandard... - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 554 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:59:30] <exec> 08└─Real writers understand: o That editor is there to help improve the quality of the work (spelling, grammar), not change its meaning or voice. o That if the editor does not like the work, it is rejected. The writer can try again, once the rules / policies are in place so the writer understands what i...
[22:59:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Disclosure is good - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:59:34] <exec> 08└─Soylent is not a tech news site [soylentnews.org].
[22:59:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Editors - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:59:35] <exec> 08└─We need quality content on the front page. Presumably, editors are chosen form their ability to recognize or create a readable and appealing summary. I've had a few edited and mostly for the better. I consider my submissions as suggestions and anything I write is subject to editing. I don't care. If...
[23:00:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02Re:Blaming immigrants for nationalist parties? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 1265 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:11] <exec> 08└─Pragmatically, my g-g-grandparents learned English and blended in and now I'm a happy well adjusted (?) member of the oppressor class, while observationally the experimental result of not learning English and not even minimally trying to fit in (sounds more like an invasion than an immigration) seem...
[23:00:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Re:Disagree - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:27] <exec> 08└─Depending on their gender I might want to see it... Yes, I joined just to add this and figure I may like the site as it is an analogue of /. which I still enjoy reading (at times). Anyhow, we still have (here in the US) areas that are traditionally Italian, French, Irish, and such. Chinatown ring a...
[23:00:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Disagree - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:28] <exec> 08└─You picked a shitty topic to join up for. Its the same cast of characters that rationalize their bigotry every time a story like this gets posted. No amount of facts will deter them, even when they are directly refuted with unequivocal facts it just slides off like water on a duck's back and they wi...
[23:00:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:51] <exec> 08└─Seeing as how you had to find an obscure reference from seven years ago, I can only thank you for making my point.
[23:00:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:52] <exec> 08└─> Seeing as how you had to find an obscure reference from seven years ago, I can only thank you for making my point. Just the first one that came up on google. Here's some more: Don Lemon Interviews KKK Member [mediaite.com] Chris Hayes Politely Interviews KKK Imperial Wizard Frank Arcona [youtube.c...
[23:01:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Re:What the hell is this? - 06The Failed Experiments of Multiculturalism - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:02] <exec> 08└─I am amused because I once had a bumper sticker made that said, "Archie Bunker for President." It was a sure-fire way to get some amusing responses including horns and the finger here and there.
[23:07:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03khedoros [2921] (Score:2) 02Re:what will happen to women? - 06Artificial Sexuality: A Round-Table Discussion on Screwing Robots - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:10] <exec> 08└─If they can make the sexbots advanced enough to look and feel almost just like humans, and also do all the chores like Rosie in the Jetsons, then your drive to find a domestic companion won't be as great.
[23:07:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:what will happen to women? - 06Artificial Sexuality: A Round-Table Discussion on Screwing Robots - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:21] <exec> 08└─Marriage is marriage, with or without the legal aspect. Some sort of legally-defined, standardized set of domestic partnerships like you're describing isn't a bad idea. It would be useful to separate various religions' concepts of marriage from legality, contracts, etc. Separation of church and stat...
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[23:58:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Uh, Bitcoin mining.... - 06Heating Homes and Businesses with "Data Furnaces" - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:58:41] <exec> 08└─Takes about an hour to heat up? Won't keep a small room warm? Try a mining rig and get ready for a naked dance party in your living room with the windows wide-open on New Year's Eve. Been there!
[23:58:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Uh, Bitcoin mining.... - 06Heating Homes and Businesses with "Data Furnaces" - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:58:42] <exec> 08└─Good idea, bro! Spend $5000 building a badass rig to mine 5¢ of bitcoin. You're so fucking clever.
[23:58:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Re:Uh, Bitcoin mining.... - 06Heating Homes and Businesses with "Data Furnaces" - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:58:44] <exec> 08└─You are most likely better of by leaving a couple of old and large crt monitors running around the clock. That will warm up a room quickly. It won't get you any bitcoins tho.
[23:58:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Uh, Bitcoin mining.... - 06Heating Homes and Businesses with "Data Furnaces" - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:58:45] <exec> 08└─But then how will I brag to my idiot homies about my stash of bitcoin?
[23:58:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Uh, Bitcoin mining.... - 06Heating Homes and Businesses with "Data Furnaces" - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:58:47] <exec> 08└─Sell drugs.
[23:58:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02First thought - 06Heating Homes and Businesses with "Data Furnaces" - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:58:49] <exec> 08└─Data security?
[23:58:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02so much power waste is because of x86 - 06Heating Homes and Businesses with "Data Furnaces" - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:58:50] <exec> 08└─seriously, we need to stop using x86 in datacenters and move to ARM. now if AMD would get it's ass in gear and put out their ARM chip, that would be super.
[23:59:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Competition lowers prices - 06Renewables are Disruptive to Coal and Gas - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:59:01] <exec> 08└─Because storage also has price tag. Batteries wear out. The only solution that seems interesting is the one with molten salt. And of course the classical with water reservoirs. But those need a massive amount of water.
[23:59:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:3, Informative) 02it's free power, of course it's disruptive - 06Renewables are Disruptive to Coal and Gas - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:59:02] <exec> 08└─this isn't surprising really. mass production is a good way to reduce cost and solar power is just using free power that showers down from the sky every single day without exception. so why are we subsidising oil and coal? seems like we are bending over backwards just to pollute the environment.
[23:59:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Rewrite horrible summaries - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 524 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:59:21] <exec> 08└─I've seen a fair number of summaries that were just horribly written, or completely inaccurate, or just preposterously provocative in tone. I expect the editors have been changing summaries of that sort, not the ones that are basically fine as they were. In that case, I would suggest completely rewr...
[23:59:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Submissions should be neutral in tone - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:59:29] <exec> 08└─Not all issues are black and white but some are. And when they are there is nothing wrong with calling them out. Also, as others have said, those that hold dissenting views should be allowed to comment and have their submissions posted as well. That's how the site can be overall neutral. Allow some...
[23:59:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How tone policing changes a forum - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 721 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:59:38] <exec> 08└─The story submitter did not lie, he used a word to summarize the actions of MS. E.g., A story describes a place where people stand around and bid on items called out by a man in the center of the room, and the item is sold to the highest bidder. It is perfectly reasonable for a story submitter to su...
[23:59:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How tone policing changes a forum - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:59:40] <exec> 08└─Hacker News has self policing of comments to where it was initially a pleasant place to be, but over time there was a falseness that shone through. I don't like it when people lie, even if it is to keep me from becoming upset. That is the vibe at HN. I hope if Soylent goes in the same direction, it...
[23:59:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Nah - 06Ask Soylent: Are Soylent News Editors Overstepping the Mark? - 405 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:59:51] <exec> 08└─So.. * Play games - Facebook? * Share torrents or compress our files into torrents - Warez? * Real time discussion - IRC? I think it boils down to a AOL/facebook like environment. There are already playgrounds for these kinds people. The only point would be to develop a better discussion bo...